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Hour 2: Classic Amin

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Hour 2: Classic Amin

"Bedale podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card or four percent cashback on dining entertainment two percent at grocery stores. One percents on all purchases. What's in your wallet? Me now as we found them easier to give us a stray dog. It's brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones best networks, no contract loss allowed. I actually want. His insight on this Jordan belt situation that is fairly amazing, and we should be having more fun with. But I it's hard for me to explain to the audience. What's been happening in south Florida over the last month? Okay. And in Miami Beach specifically because spring break has been a total insanity. All our entire military is here. Trying to get people to have less fun on spring break, and now ultras here and ultra a whole 'nother level of wave of psychedelics and nonsense and house music that can only be listened to if you're on a copious amount of drugs. In which case, it's great. But amino hasn't were you swallowed by ultra were you sweat like why are you in? We've got a hotel room and a shower in here that has been used maybe three times ever I live so far away from these studios because I don't want my daughters to ever go to Oltra. That's what that's the real reason. I mean that is it. Okay. So did all tra- get you to house music. Why were you just late for the show and late to give us Jordan Bella analysis because you were sitting on the floor of the shower, first of all it's not that much drugs that you need to enjoy the music, but second of all. As you hear my voice. Reveal the effects of south beach. No, I was. Get to it. And you get to the point or you want to just go back up to the shower. Just I've never brushed my teeth in the shower before my life today was the first time. I did it. I sat there, and I said, you know, what we're gonna do everything in the shower. I just need the water on me at all time. Everything everything Chris. And Chris everything you're on Instagram. I follow you on Instagram and the videos ended with a karaoke song. I think you were by yourself at a karaoke joint for a little while Jackson. He showed up later. Yeah. He's showed up later. But there was there was definitely a long stretch of time where I was living by myself at a karaoke bar, singing karaoke. He's sad. What it on the poll? I've got a number of different questions here. One of the poll questions when Jason Jackson shows up at your karaoke. Are you dead straight headed for a hangover? Let me tell you the other people at the karaoke bar were extremely excited when Jason showed up, but it's a karaoke league that your image as yeah. Correct. Yes. And apples from location location, Oregon. Oregon. Wait a minute there. Kariuki late a minute. What karaoke leave Jason Jackson? We talked about it. Now. Can you talk to me about it? What is this league? Who else is slow hold on jayjay taxes the Commissioner that yeah. What is the leak? It is a group of local people who travel from spot to spot weekly when they Miami Heat are in town, do karaoke. And I gotta say I'm not gonna name names because I'm not that kind of guy like bear Grylls guerrillas Ravi says name. But anyways, there are people that are high ranking Miami officials who have attended this thing Pat Riley does Gary yoki not naming names in the league. I told you not any Ellsberg crushes it on the dance more era sin is in your league. Shane baddie as definitely in Batty. Zo can't be so Alonzo Mourning you never know come on on the poll, Guillermo does Alonzo Mourning do karaoke. So so does not enjoy Nario key. You'd be surprised, and we get can we get the song that Amine would like. So that we could get addition of what he's doing in league play. Awesome. Put it on the poll. Did you know there were karaoke leagues? Dan. You always have to have a go-to that warms up the crowd because a lot you're going in. It's not like we don't do it in little rooms just amongst ourselves. We're going out to public and we're doing performances, but what do you want to? What's the music? You want to show us? All. Oh, no, no. No. No, no. No, no, no shout out to ROY. Was there? A crab today is Thursday. There was a crowd. I'm telling you. And and I if I only could bottle up the excitement and energy the moment. Jason Jackson walked into the room of decent Jackson arriving. He'd had like a lot of the murmuring. You know, the murmuring you here in movies. We're just but then you hear one word towards healing decent Jackson Miami. What you've got. I mean, this is not know what do you want? Can you know the song that are saying last night that is the absolute warmup song? Alright. A bit of a snooze. I watched your loser, sir. I challenge you. I challenge you to carry oh key battle. Really you're him right now. Now, Chris Cody. This. You gotta yourself. But a mean has challenged you, and he's going to open the bidding with what Chris Cody has disparaged as a snooze earlier, Dan, I'm gonna tell you this is like just like NBA players who have guys I could beat you on one on one. And usually they just ignore them. But every once in a while man come on come on. All right. Well, this is going to be alive. This is amazing karaoke off has broken out. Billy stood up for some reason. He's stood up. Excitedly still not looking at Allison has anyone ever challenged. People more never won a thing. That mean, I mean all those challenge. Well, here we go. And here we are wins everything. That's right here. This is wonderful. We have to follow it to its conclusion is this a snooze IRS this to- tapper. What Billy what a is the guy. He was describing. One hundred percent. All right, Mike. Do you have the music necessary for a karaoke battle to break out live on ESPN radio all over America, more than two hundred and fifty stations. Yes. We've selected mean song and we've selected Chris Cody saw right? This is excellent. So let's all get out of the way we open the bidding with the meal Hassen from league play with Jason Jackson and other unnamed members of the Miami Heat. He is polluted. He is not in good shape to do the show today. A menas first, let's do it. No. What's the matter? No. I'm not no, I'm not here for your comedian. Takes the L. If you're not familiar with the before five. You're losing another words. No. The words there's the podcast is going to be great sound like any of us know the words to Lou bega, all we know is the hook MAMBO number five the trumpet. So the reason that Mike did that is because I mean, I'll have on occasion has been known to look like Lou bega on one occasion. Okay. Because I had to save says well Halloween we did. Well, that one one occasion. What the Sandra's in? It really sounds like they're on the song as opposed to just singing in the backyard. I'm impressed. Makes me nuts. All right enough with the jokes now. Now, we've run out of the time. All right Kerry. Okay off between a mean and Chris coating next. Geico presents unhelpful home improvement. How To's a slippery bathroom floor can result in expensive hospital bills? So today, I'll show you how to cook a serious fall by filling your bathroom with thousands of plastic balls. Just nail a piece of plywood across the doorway and dump in two thousand multicolored plastic balls, you could try to protect yourself with a bathroom full of plastic balls or you could get liability coverage through the Geico insurance agency. Visit Geico dot com and see how affordable renter's insurance can be donlevatar seven o'clock on the dot amend. My drop top in the streets. Wait, infamy, still God's up. Hey, anticipating good love don't. Keep me. Waiting by got plans to put. Hands and places never seen. Go. You know, what this is liberty are show with stugatz on ESPN radio. Get in touch with the show any time to the one eight hundred flowers Twitter feed at lebatardshow at stugotz, ninety at Darth mean, if you missed any of our interviews go check out the entire interview on demand, and he Dan Levin, Dr podcast brought to you by the Capital One saver card or four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent of grocery stores. One percent on all of their purchases. Capital one. What's in your wallet? Guys. It's time for straight talk. It is brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones, best networks, no contracts. Well, let's give them some straight talk here from amino has before we get into the nonsense and hijinks and Mike. This will give you some time to figure out whether you want to get into this karaoke off against Chris. And I mean because you like your singing voice, and you like to sing. And what what you're gonna come in. You're going to say I'm too much of a professional. Don't don't drag me into this. This is a a beef between two guys leave it to the amateurs to this one. Are you in a karaoke you league? I mean as the call me, Chris karaoke. That back rose bringing it today. Let's get into this carry Oti off this karaoke off in a second with them for a while. But first, let's are you intimidated now his last name used to be carrying. How do you blow that line Chris carry OT period key? It's really just one sound. So before we how could you possibly have a rebuttal for that was your name a mean, Gary, okay. So wait, if you're just joining us a mean claims that he is better at karaoke than Chris, Cody if anyone else wants to get in on this brawl feel free to tell me prepare your song and get ready. Chris carry Oti that was a lie. That was that was the line that you blue. Yes. Vilis still not looking at Allison. Allison's looking at no one. No, man. All right. So before we get to that though. Jordan bell has been suspended of for one game by the warriors. The warriors have concluded that he tried to charge a hotel purchase to assistant coach, Mike Brown. A mean, please as a former sons executive give us some insight to this that we can't get anywhere else. Because this is a story that I wanna make fun of. Oh, no. It's a brilliant move by him. Because when you go into these hotels check in and obviously the hotel is paid for but everyone has to leave a credit card for incidentals. Right. And so if you know the name and the the room number of anyone in the party, you can go ahead and leave something on there. And they never fact this, right? And and illustrate this point during training camp man, it was a while ago. But we're in San Diego, we're training camp for like ten days at this hotel, and the vets decided that they were going to charge everything and. I mean, everything to the rookies without telling them, right? So anytime they went for breakfast anytime, they got drink from the bar anytime. They ruined service. They kept leaving the room number and the rookie name on there. And they didn't tell the rookies. And so when checkout happens in the rookies get you get that seat under your door. There was like tens of thousands of dollars charges on there and their poor kids are like they haven't even gotten their first NBA check yet because your first paycheck doesn't come in until like November fifteenth or something like that. And so these poor kids are like. Right. That sheet on the door. Give me terrifying really can pole Guillermo at lebatardshow, Ken that sheet under the hotel room door, be terrifying. Doing build a second year player, and he figured it out already. That's pretty good. So what kind of problems does that cause in a locker room for him? Is it just the shame of it is Mike Brown. Is there any sort of trust stuff that goes on or it's just a silly? Because I remember didn't the Yankees have to the Yankees had to waive somebody because that's somebody stole Derek Jeter's glove, and they couldn't have that in their in their locker room anymore. That's a little different. I think when you're talking about I can't leave my stuff around you. Because I obviously if someone charges breakfast than room service, and all that all my Bill. It's pretty easy to see. Oh, hold on. These are my charges who charged us. Right. But if someone takes your possession. So we had a problem with a a maintenance person who would come in at the middle of the. Night. And while they were, you know, cleaning or whatever would get their hand in pockets and takes them, and we caught him on tape, and the, you know, that's that's bad. Right. But this this is going to be they're gonna make fun of him for the rest of the time. He's just he's he looks like an idiot. Even though is Hetty play. Ruben Rivera was the guy they released him. If he was someone better that we probably stays in. You know stays on the cloud all right around on the pole Guillermo at lebatardshow, if Maryono Rivera had stolen Derek Jeter's glove would he have been waived cousins, actually with Ruben Rivera. Let's do this right now. Do you have? No that used to call me, Mike internet research. Do you? Do you have the songs ready for mean? I'll has an and clear karaoke champion. Chris Carey, Chris. Europe. I this is your is it. Oh, he's up. I okay. That's how we're doing it. All right. We're going. I Chris Cody believes that he can beat him, you know, hasn't. And he's in the disadvantaged position of going first. Let's see what he's got really performing. Very raw. Amazing in his delusional confidence. This karaoke. We all understand why they called you. Chris Carey, okay. Growing up. So amino Hassen is in a league. He's in a karaoke league. Are you daunted by that are you him and aided by what Chris Cody not at all? I wrote some notes actually critiquing the performance. I was similarly impressed with the confidence had three the lyrics off his phone. That's the demerits. Like, if you don't know this song don't sing it also on you out of the mind. Also, what did you say the karaoke bar? You're not looking at anything karaoke is come out here. Reading a screen. Wow. Oh, wait, hold on. It's enough for you. Waiting screen really is against league play. It's not. But it's at the merit like like, you can't like, okay? Also while it sounded beautiful song choice for me was a problem because you got to get everybody in the karaoke bar move. And no that was an upset though. I was I was impressed by the former I liked the eye contact when he got to the hook like Ellen has the part. I know also his voice kind of faded in and out when he was a little less common. Sing all we going to get to years. All right. We're going to do that next. We're out of time. Again, we gotta tease into the next segment you hear the rebuttal from a mean, I can't imagine that Amine does this. Well, he's gotta be terrible. I do know. I imagine it goes. Well, because every time a menas bragged about anything on the show it always go. So well for them when when it comes down to pay off donlevatar, I mean as to call me, Chris karaoke stugatz. That back rose bringing it today. These live at our show with this two guards on ESPN radio. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Guests on the Dan lebatardshow appear via the shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update. Devon Booker reached the fifty point more for the second consecutive game. In the sun's loss to the wizards. The rare back to back fifty burgers with two losses. It's rare put it on the poll. Lebatardshow is it rare for your to fifty burgers to end up in losses aside, a ELS thought out Manchester United has appointed GS as its manager on a three year deal so zero effort actually, look up how to pronounce it governor. It's the last name. I just I can't there's a whole World Wide Web that high checked it. And I still can't worldwide. You didn't check it. I didn't add finally speaking to improv students at upright citizens brigade theater in east Hollywood, that's a tough one for me. They do that. That's why it's in there on Monday brigade. I can't say Jordan Peele discussed the shift in power dynamics. Now that he's a mega success while being in the public eye has made him susceptible to having anyone come up to him an hour into dinner. It also gets him the influence to staff is movies with under represented talent. I don't see. Myself casting a white dude as the lead in my movie, he said via the Hollywood reporter, nor that I don't like white dudes. But I've seen that movie. Okay. Where where will all the white actors go now that they can't be in that movie for all the latest headlines and information tune in the sports center on ESPN radio throughout the day? So I've been told that Jason Jackson has emerged from whatever hibernation last night put him in. I imagine him walking into any carry okay room and just pointing at people and saying it's time to ball. Y'all y'all imagine that right? I mean, I I don't know who he has peon you imagine to be the best of the Carro key producers like if you look at people that he has PIN, and you think to yourself who is great at karaoke. Who are some names that come to mind? I mean, I'll Hassen is sitting here telling us that he's claiming that he's very good at this. It's hard to imagine. I'll tell you who's really good not at ESPN anymore, though to hill Mel hill puts on a performance what she goes Garrick. That's there are rules. The there's there's standards to carry. Okay. Number one is song selection. So while I appreciate the degree of difficult that Chris did with the Tyree song. It's not one as my point out that gets a cloud. Moving. You gotta get a song against crab movie at the same time. You gotta pick a song that tells the crowd. I don't take myself too serious. All right. Well, we're going to get to that song in just a second. I I want to wish you happy birthday here. Happy seventy fifth birthday to Rick berry. Happy birthday to him. I don't care. Good luck. Also, happy forty ninth birthday to Vince Vaughn happy birthday to him. That'll care. Good luck. I can't be good. When you come away with like, your initial reaction to hearing that is only. Are you guys surprised that Vince Vaughn is only forty nine put it on the poll gear? I thought he was in his mid fifties. Can you play for us the embarrassing sound of stugatz? Arguing with Rick berry in a way that made Stu gods. Apologized to Rick berry on the way home from work to his father. He apologized was own father did and he apologize here. The call Rick Perry as demanded by his father. You're about to see why I mean, you shoot foul. John's underhand expert no way way. The game much as I know about the game Rick Perry played and by the way, does a sports radio show. So he knows to do. Admire guys likes to God's enough guts to be able to arguments. And when it came to basketball Archimi about any other sport. And I'll take your word. It's just as good as mine. Talking about football. But never played. It's to God's. Yep. He's like one of the greatest players of all time. I know he is he's one of my dad's favorite players. And it's why I had to apologize to my dad and my dad made me call Rick. Barry to apologize. Isn't there? More to that. Come. I can put city he Pippen. No. He did not. Could go to another one. I could put seventy seventy Pippen's. Ticket. That's not the point trying to change the parameters you made a blanket statement that Kobe Bryant has never wanted. He's never been the only main reason for the championship. The Michael Jordan. He never one without Scottie Pippen name another player Pippen without him. Name another player, Rick how many Pippen without him shack without Kobe won. Because he had Wayne, wait. Okay. Have nobody. So go on. But Rick the quite a number one question was another one question was Rick Perry to you think Koby wants to win one. And be the main reason that was the question, and I guess I am because it'd be a person you are not answering the question because you like Coby so much. Do you want to put in it? You open your mouth and stuck your foot in it. Give me another player. Who was a great player? Who was the main responsible main responsible championship without help? Somebody else. It doesn't matter. What gives you gonna throw someone back in my face, Hakima, LaJoie, go Rick. I would go for who. Are you going to go? You're going to go for that. So I got you. Okay. Mr credibility. Thank you. Listen to a back. He should have apologized to me. I very rude. Rick, Barry, happy birthday. I've found amazing how long it took the textures and producers to get you team allies waiting forever. Four. Thrilled wise. Give me something. I don't know who. But if he had a key Malaj, he would've played earlier in that conversation. I'd like to relive my favorite part of that specific clip. But Rick the quick question was another one question was Rick Perry. This radio. Hey, you reset the guess I appreciate that. Were you in the room while this is happening? And what you how are you experiencing? I was hiding under my desk mortified by all of mortified by all of it. But again, if this isn't a shining symbol for sports radio just this back and forth. But Rick the question was another one question was Rick Barry. Get. Terrible. Now. I know abroad, we got an announcement involving stugatz to make that Monday. And we're gonna make it in the next segment. We've got a big announcement involving stugatz that we're all excited about here. But before we do that go ahead and play a means karaoke song here thirty nine how much time how much. Saying I need. Long. Here we go. Hold my phone. I don't need to look at lyric. Eddie murray. Dono commercial? Clinic. Botching? You said girl, I can't girl. I don't understand. No, I didn't run it back. Look it up carrot show. This was the Apollo you'd be boot right now. I mean donlevatar never gonna stop. What I am. And I'm forty four years old. I ain't changed. Stugatz changed. Now. It's worked here. I am. That next to you, filthy, rich. These live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. We've become very popular by podcast and their issues with that that make the podcast listen difficult when we can't get music cleared on stuff. So I have no idea how this ounce via podcast instead of radio. But I will tell you that there's been an argument in here in which all of us have been burying Amine, and a is still arguing that he demands the floor to be heard on why he just won the karaoke off with Chris Cody, but before we give the floor to L Hassett, and we'll give it to him just play for the audience. Mike, a little snippet of amino has and what he's trying to defend. Why you want to hit me? Okay. So there you go. He's got all of the hangover from last night in his throat. You're getting here it it was appalling. I mean, he botches lyric three words into the song. And why you want to me? Doesn't describe anything as appalling. Why you want to me? Once again, Chris Cody surprises us, and once again amino hasn't says he's going to be great at something. And is it you guys I'm being judged by people who don't know what they're listening to watching. Right. This is like Stu gods. Arguing with Rick. Barry about basketball. You don't know what you're looking at. I know exactly what. I'm listening to. I hear. First and foremost, if you want to hear great singing go to a concert, right? Why you one? If you wanna if you wanna have great singing, and you don't wanna pay big money, go to a cover band. Karaoke is about the raw, right? The raw. It's not auto tune nice in the studio sound why you want to. It's about that, raw passion and energy. Why you one number two? The song selection. Me look at how everybody reacted when that music started. And it was all downhill from there. Everybody everybody. Then look at the reaction when you started singing why one because I'm singing to a bunch of pleads right now. Let me the nuance Kariuki crowd. They know. I've seen and the people move. They react. Let me tell you a story. In Hartford, Connecticut while you one. Black ESPN. I'm talking Michalis Michael Smith to Mill Hill, Marc spears while you want to me. I mean, I don't know if Dominic was there. Got a card. Mike Golic junior. Very caught. Why you want to me we took this small little restaurant in Hartford? And we turned it out with the karaoke. And you know, what I did? I didn't do that song. I did cameo candy. And you wanna know the reaction? The reaction was the entire crowd Stu gods. I'm not lying to you looking at just Denning. I v entire restaurants out of doing electric slide. That's karaoke skills. Nut staring at the phone. Lyrics. Right. Trump people. All right. Okay. All right. What are we talking about here? Right. Standing up. There's no need to menace us. Black man stand up. Now, it's menacing. When when when gear? Blackman kid. So let's. I wanna make it a ball question where you were ball defense. I don't do anything menacingly. I can't even say the word. You still aren't looking at Allison. While you say it, it's unbelievable. Alison, Chris Allison cooled off yet. With billy. Billy is scared of her Allison has really taken a an alpha position on Billy. She hasn't looked this way. Since the interview Mike, can we tell the audience? Now, the big announcement that we have involving stugatz on Monday was an announcement that Mike learned about yesterday with shock and surprise. You wanna tell them Stu got. I mean, you guys get tell them. I was I was equally as shocked and surprise when I got when I got the call. Now, we can't do it here. Next segment. We have to do it our noon, everyone knows its biggest our in radio poverty drops. It's supposed to drop little tiny is out now everybody early. All right. It's out early. How is it this week? How was poverty this week? It's just okay. But I want you to subscribe at I want you to leave a nice comment. And then I want you to unsubscribe, and then I want you to resubscribe, and I want you to do that as many times you can't. I gotta say the reaction on Twitter overwhelmingly positive. Listen, listen to some of those department. Very nice. Fantastic performance. Almost flew off treadmill during work because uncontrollable, delight. Why you want to? Let me. I can't tell uncontrollable delight. Did you just change laughter into delight? You did. To light. Any organism? Who has uncontrollable rage last word? That was why? The real last word great thong selection. Why you wanna hurt me? Who doesn't love the song? Are you actually reading? And so. He should be on the jump more scrolling through all the mockery. On the lock screen pretending this girl up. I see your phone. Why you want to me? This is the best. Why you want to be?

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Hour 2: The Return Of Tim Kurkjian

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

34:45 min | 7 months ago

Hour 2: The Return Of Tim Kurkjian

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Well it's it's taking that three hour commute out of my day. That's where most of the heaters in any way it's presented by progressive jared. Espn radio is small business protection for more than vehicles with insurance expertise to keep your company moving forward more progressive commercial dot com. Tim Kirk joins US. Just a second here on the shell. Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sports update. Ufc President Dana white remains adamant that UFC two forty nine will take place on April eight. That is looking to potential fights the card. What are you laughing at amazing like he is? He has been absolutely adamant about that. He's like he's been very stubborn about. You're not allowed to cancel any my events. He was one of the last ones to go down. And then some of the events got cancelled and he was like okay. I'll eat this but you guys are GonNa get my most determined Dana White on this. Be Bergerson fight. So he's looking at add. Potential fights to accord which has a light heavyweight title fight between Khabib Tony Ferguson. As its headline the NHL has postponed three upcoming events the scouting combine and buffalo the NHL Awards in Las Vegas and the NHL draft in Montreal due to the corona virus. Pandemic at finally a newly constructed concert hall at Saudi Arabia was awarded a Guinness World. Record for the world's largest mirrored building. The mariah concert hall named for the Arabic word for reflection in Al. Uwe was awarded by the Guinness Book of World Records when officials verify the Q. Boyd Structure Measures. Thirty one thousand nine hundred and fifty five square feet. The designers of the building said the mirrored exterior was designed to reflect and highlight the natural beauty of the surrounding desert. Leap leap. You read that. Well that was like seeing John C reilly completely American Ninja cores. That was amazing scene. You do that I try to sprint away from those as quickly as possible to hope that no one notice you telling me it did a good job there. I mean really. Good get in stumble. You didn't stagger major way through you sounded borderline competent and confident but now I have to say breakfasting. Wendy's has breakfast now. We're talking fresh cracked eggs on every breakfast sandwich. Yup It's going to be America's favorite breakfast download the Wendy's at for deals and your new favourite breakfast. Yup For this Wendy's in the morning available at participating. Us Wendy's for all the latest headlines Information to the sportscenter on ESPN radio all throughout the day so we loved him. Kirch in and basically put it on the poll here. Because if you're like us you will answer this question. Yes At lebatardshow is the best part of opening day. Tim kerchuns return to our airwaves. Now there is no pinning day. So what we're dealing with here is the Tim. Kirk is going to give you your baseball fix starting today. He's writing a daily feature. Espn DOT com called the baseball fix. It is going to be a Tim. Coaching going through our most historic sport and each day. He will grab something from Baseball History and today's baseball. Fix Tim thank you for joining us. Welcome back we've missed you. Today's baseball fix. What is it about? Well it's about rob's a str- is Ni who pitches is pitched in the big leagues for three different seasons in camp this year with the Orioles. He's got the most impenetrable last name I've ever seen in a major league uniform. You can't pronounce it. You can't spell it. He told he told me out a list but he was a kid. He couldn't even pronounce his own name until he was in the third grade. He's so funny talking about how his name gets butchered at hotels and everywhere he goes but this is just kind of the playful way. I'm going to go about this little project I've taken on on my own since there aren't any games really being played on. March the twenty six in history. I'm just looking for any little element that I can write about. That can make people smile at a time. When we don't have any smiles going around and baseball stugatz spell Robb Nen spell rob then Robb Nen or ob and e and got both names wrong. Somehow it's rob with two PS and one and Tim students getting bad news or what. I thought was bad news as a mets fan even during a pandemic which is the signature plight of the mets fan. But he was saying. This might not actually be bad. The idea that syndergaard needs Tommy John now even though people are complaining. Hey He's using up doctors to get that surgery that can be better used elsewhere. The timing of this first of all. How did it happen when it happened? And how surprised were you by this news? Well I didn't see this coming. Don't know anyone that did see this coming That's how it works these days guys. You know this. This is all coming eventually for every pitcher and in this case They saw something they didn't like and they decided all right. We might as well get it over with now. That's why a lot of people look at this so they did with Stephen Strasburg years ago. The nationals they said well let's let's just get it over with well that's not always the best way to go about it. 'cause sometimes it comes back sometimes. Like Johnny Venter's comes back three times however this was probably the right thing to do because you can have anyone who's that important who throws hard with that kind of delivery of that size and have him pitching when he's not right. You might as well get it taken care of gym in your lifetime. I'm guessing that you've never had a season where there's not an opening day or in this case it's it's been delayed at least as far as we know when realizing there's a lot of people going through a lot of difficult times right now. I'm wondering are you. Okay like how you're handling this. Yeah I'm okay. This is supposed to be my forty first opening day so this is kind of important to me and a Lotta people But again I took on his writing. Projec- just I want to say just in give myself something to do. But I just didn't feel very satisfied on. I've told you guys I don't have any hobbies. I think at everything. I can't go to the gym because the gym's closed it's too cold to play golf so I had to go do something that would keep me involved and keep me interested in baseball. Which always the case and I was trying to keep all my friends who love baseball and just needed something every day. I figured this is the best way to do it so I'm going to write every day. My own little personal. Look at this date in baseball history. Tim I know that pitching throwing a baseball is an unnatural act for the body but the idea that these power pitchers continually need. Tommy John Surgery. Is there anything like that that you can think I know? Football's dangerous but something that sort of baked into the bread. I think we could say at this point. If you're a power arm can I? I don't even know if I can say this. Statistically you're more likely to need Tommy. John Surgery the not well logically. Yes but nobody through a baseball harder than Nolan Ryan for twenty five years and even though he was a physical freak He didn't need Tommy John Surgery and I don't think it's just exclusive to hard throwers. But I think when you have a delivery like say Chris Sales delivery and your slender and its violent. That's going to happen but you're right than just put your arm up into a throwing motion. That is so unnatural to have your arm there and it's just a lesson for little kids. Put The baseball bat and glove down in in November. Go make the basketball team. Don't put your arm at that angle throwing off a mound twelve months a year. You'RE GONNA get hurt if you don't give it a break our tim here we go Does Adam Silver look like a women's Roller Deodorant does look like a scientist on the muppets? Does Steve Balmer looked like he was just told to come on down to the prices right. I really looked like he rarely orders his drink of choice because winning more often than not bystander chimes in with. You think you're better than me don't you. Does it or drawn? Looked like the guy at the resort pool in a speedo wants to talk to you about his special buffalo wing recipe monster noise do right. Take look like the guy in the neighbourhood houses circle as an easy market. Every mother with a daughter selling Scout. Cookies does Pete Carroll look like. He drives his Saab convertible with the top down in his sunglasses year. Round because Jay Glazer looked like a cadbury cream eggs a look I sleep on the couch. And the Frat House all semester before anyone realizes he's not a member of the fraternity isn't money. Look like the guy at a party. When hors d'oeuvres steeple is open takes. Three pigs in a blanket from the large dish puts on a small dish and then takes the largest with them into the corner of the room. Sits down and calmly talks a paper Napkin into his shirt collar while muttering to himself. You come to Papa. I got so many good ones. Here's to God's people are bored. Thank you Tim. Good to have you back. I'm GonNa have to read them to and during the commercial if you missed any of our interviews. Check him out on demand and the Dan Lebatardshow podcast. It's brought to you by the capital quicksilver card. Earning unlimited one point five percent cash back on every purchase everywhere capital what. What's in your wallet? Dan I for straight talk. It is brought to you by straight talk wireless so Stefan Digs. Now of the buffalo bills was feeling bored yesterday and he asked a variety of people on social media to select their top five wide receivers of all time. I think the four are easy by consensus. It becomes hard to put someone in the top five but what I wanted to ask you or at five in the top five I wanted to ask you about the other side of the ball stu gods because I don't know how to measure cornerbacks. I remember everybody I had to learn the name. Nom De Awesome. Because he was the best corner in the game according to everybody when he was a free agent. Everybody was fighting over him. And then he got the Philadelphia and he wasn't any good and that team fell on its face and I don't know exactly with the I not with the help of pro football focus. Our advanced metrics. I don't know how to measure who is good as a cornerback beyond the couple that I'm always told her good the Richard Sherman's of the world. I could tell it's fun. Gilmore seemed to be covering everybody last year for New England but dion sanders was so good like. How did you identify that? Well I mean he was just the best athletes on every field. He stood on the teams. Were obviously afraid to throw to his side of the ball but every team. What's funny is you know every team every team in the sport has a stadium full of people who don't like one of the cornerbacks at some point in that team's history. Write some of the. Most unpopular people are the quarterbacks who are always getting burned. But what I wanted to ask you and Chris so the dolphins are said to have one free agency. They gave Byron Jones a contract that makes him the highest. Paid cornerback in the game. Avian Howard is there other corner. He's by consensus. Very good at what he does or has been in Minnesota but when I got the news when I got the news that Byron Jones had gotten the biggest contract in the history of the sport. I'm like okay do I do. I know that this guy is really really good like I asked some people who when they said yes he's stable and he's a very solid cover man and he will help your defense in general but I didn't know off. The top of my head having not watched Dallas cowboys. Cornerback play. How good this guy was or wasn't you're asking. If he was very good I was asking who is Byron Jones and Chris. Well you weren't the only one doing that I mean. I notice that some people were doing it who are employed as journalists in the Miami market. Not only the. That'd be good if they actually did that because then they would be being honest. A lot of these reporters down here. Oh they overpaid form of you know what? He's a good guy but he's not really ball. Hawk yelling at interceptions last year. Everybody's faking it. Through God's I bet everybody all the dolphins reporters down here. They might have heard the name but these people they're not studying Byron Jones. I had heard his name. And I felt like I was in the upper echelon of having info on iron jobs just because I had heard of it and I was like hey I just everyone's big. I mean they kind of have to if you're a reporter who covers the Dolphins. You can't right you know what? I don't know who is so you have to make it. I don't really blame them but I just call us and say that they were all baking. I'm Chris Cody. Espn APP the buzzards have forgive me. I said Minnesota when I meant Miami and Howard. They've got the most expensive corners in the league. One into Byron Jones. And how do I ask this question of the audience? I guess do you. Did you know at Lebatardshow? Did you know how good Byron Jones was as a cornerback? Because I had to look it up. I didn't have. I did not have any kind of working knowledge. Chris what he got. Put up the pool. I would put on the ball. Had you ever heard of Byron Jones before the dolphins made it? Yes yes. That's the way that had you ever heard of him. Okay yes yeah I mean. I had not heard of them before. The dolphins sign up Dan. I can tell you this though. He could broad jump twelve feet. I don't know what that means. I mean the guy could broad jump twelve feet. He's gotTa be good. I wonder I wonder two interceptions two interceptions in five years or was it just two interceptions last year because I've seen both stats and I don't know how you measure cornerbacks exactly with film study and whatnot but if indeed it's two interceptions last year or two interceptions in the last five years. Are Those numbers not damning? Both of them he has to for his entire career. He had one last year. He had won the season before. Listen I gauge quarterbacks. And whether or not they're good if about the number of interceptions so the dolphins have clearly overpaid for this guy. I mean they added their minds. I mean the guy never heard of but to intercept have five years does not bode well hair list for warner bags and this. That was terrible. The Dolphins Winfrey Agency. They lost free agency. Because a Byron Jones there you go ladies and Gentlemen. Stugatz admits during the segment that he had never heard of the player and then proves everything. Chris Cody was just saying by arriving at the very same conclusion. That cody pointed out earlier in the show. This guy's got only two interceptions. The dolphins have overpaid. Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance. Rex Chapman GonNA join us in about thirty minutes noon eastern on the Shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update. Ufc President Dana. White remains adamant that you have to forty nine. We'll take place on April eighteenth and is looking to add potential fights to the card which has a lightweight title. Fight between Khabib. Tony Ferguson as its head lot the. 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Call Eight hundred seven eight zero ten ten or go to selectquote DOT com today for all the latest headlines and information tune into the sportscenter on. Espn radio all throughout the day. Billy Gill is an old man from another time sports fan from another time billy. Gill plays Hooky from works. God's every year I don't know how many years it's been now for only baseball opening day. Annually he takes the show off. How long have you been doing that? Billy I been to every opening day every home opener. The marlins have had since ninety three allowed them are nights. I've only had to take off work. Maybe I don't know like four five times but I've been to a guest. What twenty seven. Straight Twenty eight something like that and so what? What is it like the build up to opening day? And how is today different now? That opening day is supposed to be today. But it's not here well Dan. I don't know if you know baseball's not happening so it's opening day but it's not opening day doesn't really feel like opening day and I'm trying to do the things where I go and I get dressed wearing my jersey in my hat as an unbiased member of the media and yet it's not really do because it's been ninety game today. Yeah that's problematic. That's yeah that's I could see so you got dressed up the way that you have for twenty eight years but you can't actually go outside the door to go Wax Poetic About Baseball about Greenfield's and the crack of a bat. Yeah I mean I feel like I'm probably the only one that's doing this guy disappointing. Like if I went to Marlins Park accumulate in the field would be set up so well. No it is set up for CORONA VIRUS TESTS FOR ONLY CORONA virus test. Billy wasn't last year the year. We're Dan decided to have a billy. Gill Sandwich at opening day. Were Dan just he? He stole all your Thunders Day. That will live in infamy marlins jeeter era everybody very optimistic about the way things are headed in the team. Me You know leading the charge. I think on that optimism with the team that Jose Rainha took the mound pitch to. I don't even remember. Wasn't I pretty much the season? I wish we had that sound to play. The we have lost our library of sounds but it is engulfed billy. He was on opening day. He was playing Hooky but also working and he was calling the first pitch of the marlins season and it became a home run and I just jumped out of the water. Like an ORCA breaching the ocean and he was just he was. He wasn't a Walrus. He was a whisker on a walruses face as I breached the water and just swallowed. Billy's big moment my apologize. My apologies are going to that day and I keep forgetting. We don't have full catalog of sound there. I thought that was GONNA be. It's very to play that particular south but I liked what. Billy did getting dressed for opening day to kind of feel like he's in a spirit of opening day in fact. I was watching on CNN last night. They are suggesting that what you do. I'm wondering if anyone else is doing it because I did today for the first time that you should get up. Take a shower put on normal clothes. Pretend that you're going to work so you feel like you're going to work Dan. You're doing that. I mean I love the idea. Well worn pants for ten days. I love the idea of you. Know Frank Vogel's image being the guy who gets dressed for work every day Not telling his wife that he's been laid off for four months. I'm wondering at Lebatardshow on twitter. Though is billy the only mid thirties human being roaming the earth who has been to twenty eighth straight opening days. You certainly must be the only one who's been to twenty eighth straight. Marlins opening days. I don't think there's anyone else on earth who's done that on my sis. My parents have okay. Thank you. I've been meaning to get for two days to why it is that STU gods. His father yelled at him for the first time since. STUGOTZ DISRESPECTED. Rick Berry one of his father's childhood idols. On our show and stugotz. His father called him and made him a call. Rick Barry apologized to Stu. Gods has been yelled at by his father. We will get to that in a second. But as gods just mentioned rex. Chapman is GONNA join us at noon. Eastern what do you know about him? Stu Gods because he is There's an e sixty story on Rex Chapman Tomorrow Night Seven PM Eastern on. Espn but what are off the top of your head. Rex Chapman Word Association. What are some things you're going to Kentucky Whites? Yeah it's about it okay. Charge blocker charge blocker charts. Well that's the reason we're having him on is because he has developed an internet persona that somehow he gets all these great videos before anyone else has seen them so. We're going to talk to him about that. Because he's he's in his fifties now right. He played for Phoenix. He played for the Miami. I think one of the biggest games of his life as I remember. I remember one rex. Chapman game above all other REX. Chapman Games and it was the Miami Heat. Were playing totally undermanned team. Against Michael Jordan Michael Jordan would play like before playoff games against the heat. He thought it was so funny that he would go play. Thirty six holes of golf before playing in those playoff games and it it is honestly one of the biggest upsets in the history of south Florida. Sports that REX. Chapman's Miami. Heat team and I don't know how he was. I think he was the leading scorer throughout that game for the Miami Heat and they only have like seven or eight players they beat Michael Jordan's team and it's you know twenty five years later and it's still something that I remember the details to because it was. It was such a fun night in Miami to watch to watch rex. Chapman take out a guy that you knew in real time was a legend for all time. Yeah and REX. Chapman was one of those guys. Dan Coming out of high school that he's like one of the few that you can name like Felipe. Lopez what to Saint John's and he was on the cover of sports illustrated. He was Kenny. Anderson was another guy. Lebron James was another Guy Rex. Chapman is one of a handful of guys where they were coming out of high school. You knew their name before they got onto the seed like. That's how big REX Chapman was. When you were growing up. He was top ten pick and he will join us as I said because he's gotten very good I don't know how he does this but we will ask him questions how he does this. Finding these videos that no one else have seen. That are fairly amazing videos. But let's get back to why it is that Stugotz father yelled at him. Let's play the sound. I Bristol of what happened between Stugatz an Rick Berry. A long time of a long time ago that made Stugatz his father calls. To God's demand apology come. I can put. It Scottie. Pippen did not go to another put. Seventy seventy pippen's with them. That's not the point trying to change the parameters. You made a blanket statement that Kobe Bryant at never wanted. He's never been the owner main reason in his name championship. And the Michael Jordan. If he never one without Scottie. Pippen name another player without him. Name another player Rick. How many without him without Kobe won because he had dwayne. Okay nobody go on the other one but requenes question was the another one question was Rick Barry? Do you think Kobe wants to win? One and be the main reason that was the question. I guess I think because because it'd be the person you are not answering the question because you like Kobe so much with one year age you heard your foot in it. You Open your mouth and stuck your foot in. It gives me another player. Who was a great player? Who was the means responsible? Main responsibilities championship without help. Somebody else came allies won. It doesn't matter who I give you. You're gonNA throw someone back in my face. Hakima Lajoie go rick I would go for. Who are you going to go for that so I got you? Okay Mr Credibility thank you. Okay and now you may think that there are a number of things at the end there that are disrespectful. I maintain that the single most disrespectful thing that Stugotz has ever done on or off air to anybody is all of the SS and the Z's he threw into the question was rick. Perry that word was you made a twelve syllables and it just drenched in condescension and disrespect. Yeah and I also. That's high as I was filling time arguing with Rick. Barrio is just waiting for Mike. The put a key Malaysia. Want into my ear. I don't like forever I did. It did feel like forever. I can't believe that we were sitting here doing this. Show and at the time like we. We certainly good radio all these years later but we were. I take one to budget time for that brief shining moment. Cross the sky guts This was before. I think this feels like it was before debate. Television was it not might not have been or was it not that long ago. I'm not certain it was that long ago. But regardless my dad who loves Rick Barry? It felt like I was completely disrespectful to Rick Barry. He was very upset with me and I had a long conversation on the ride home with my dad and my Dad. What ended up happening was my dad right. After like right after that argument on air my dad force me to call Rick Barry and apologized to rick at so I spoke to my dad for forty five minutes and then I spoke to rick for fifteen minutes and he finally agreed to forgive me as well. I WANNA find out why it is that he is mad at you this time but I'm just curious letting people look behind the show here. I'm wondering how much Mike Ryan Right now is missing our library because by now we would have played the question. Was Rick Perry About Forty Times. If we had our normal library I was honestly when this whole pandemic started and no one really could have known the scope of where we are right now. I was like wow. This is a real opportunity for us to shine no sports. We have this brilliant archive. We have our timing. We have our chemistry that was ripped away. And that's just another painful. Remind not playing this for the next fifteen to twenty minutes throughout Rex Chapman. The question was Rick. Perry when you hear that back how. How much remorse you have about your disrespect before we get to. Your Dad yelled at you this time. None I mean I don't have any. I did it because my dad I mean. Listen my dad called me. He said he was upset about it. He set my dad asked me. How do you feel about how you treated? Rick Barry I said Dad how do you feel about how Rick Barry Created Your Son? That my dad said no. You were completely disrespectful. He's one of the all time greats fifty all time best players he said you need to call him and apologize. You were very. He said you didn't hear it. I said that was in it. He said you didn't hear it and he said apologize. I don't feel bad but when your dad calls you one time your entire career and asks you apologize to someone that. He loves and respects. I did it for my debt. Are you guys markings? Even though we're not doing the show the way we normally do it. The word disrespect was just a single syllable thereby stugotz. It was. And I'm wondering if you guys have somewhere there the ability to market so that we don't lose more of our library because that is going to be an excellent stump the meach too tight ends coach or disrespect up. But why did he yell at you this time? What happened with him now? So we have a rule on the show. Here's it's we're doing the show this from different locations when you go off air. The Internet goes off. I'm morphine to my all time. Nba teams and that happened on Monday. And now it happened today but it also happened on Monday except for Monday. It was like three or four minutes. That felt like fifteen to twenty minutes. Okay from where I was sitting right. It was legitimately great when I want from now on because we're going to have to during this post pandemic time. We're going to have to figure out a way to create a new library of jokes because we can't keep doing this. Show just grinding through it this way like we need some of these things so go ahead. Keep it keep. Explain me what it is that happened with your your father. This time so Monday you dropped and I was left to my own devices at all time sixers now I was rattled. I wasn't really thinking correctly. I'm not certain the one I gave on air is the one I actually tweeted out later that day but I did have Bobby Jones coming off the bench on my all time sixers team and I did not have HAL greer on the sixers all time team and so after the show is over. I got a text from my dad. That's simply red. Call me and I know that needs okay. I know what that means. I didn't know where it was about at the time but I knew what it meant and so I called him and he said I heard all time sixers team and I said yeah he said Bobby Jones. Good how greer great calm apologize. I said Dad. You're acting like every single person's phone number at my disposal at my fingertips. He said all right. Well if you CAN'T GET HOLD OF HAL. Greer at least make up for it on the air the next day. I said let me do that. He said I look them up. I looked up how greer I looked up. Bobby Jones. Oh my God. How greer is so much better than Bobby Jones? And my dad is right. Dad I apologize. How greer if you can hear me out there my apology. Our apologies to you and Bobby Jones. I Apologize to you because my dad was right. You were good not great and therefore have to take you off my all time sixers team and I have to put the Great Hal greer audit because that was hall of fame. Great as my dad was angry for with me for leaving off Hal greer and I've been trying to get his phone number and if anyone has it they could send it to me you sure. Are you sure he still with us? Is How greer still with us. You one hundred percent positive. Has this number. So I'm going to call and apologize regardless of okay. We've figured out here because I do. I'm kind of rain for A. He's dead Oh billy's pilly he's been dead for three years to dot stood still.

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Gottlieb - All Ball - Kyrie will exhaust KD; UCLA Asst. Mike Lewis on coaching with Brad Stevens and playing for Bobby Knight

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Gottlieb - All Ball - Kyrie will exhaust KD; UCLA Asst. Mike Lewis on coaching with Brad Stevens and playing for Bobby Knight

"When we started this show I had read a lot of true crime. I thought I knew what I was getting into. But I wasn't prepared to stop sleeping, and for those all too real monsters. Visit me in my nightmares. From iheartradio and tender foot TV, monster presents insomniac listen and subscribe to monster presents insomniac at apple podcasts on iheartradio app or ever. You listen to podcasts. Hey, welcome in, I'm Doug Ali, and this is all all basketball, all the time, we have a lengthy discussion with my man Mike Lewis, former Gatorade player of the year in state of Indiana, but you'll hear an interesting story, as far as whether or not he was, Mr. basketball in the state of Indiana played for I you started for four years. Got some Bob Knight's stories. And then we'll talk about coaching and coaching with Brad Stevens. And what that's really like coaching with Tim miles a slasher now. I being an assistant coach at UCLA plus he played for. Rick berry in the USB L we played against each other. So we got some good stuff going on with. With Mike Lewis he'll join me in a moment. We're less than a week away from the free agency bonanza, and I don't know what to think, you know, this is kind of strangely, what we built up to all year is having nothing to do with actual basketball. I'm torn on the Kyrie Irving thing because I've been somebody who's trying to tell people just how talented he is. But I had no idea how much of a pain the ass, he was until I talked to some people that were in Boston, and people that have been in Cleveland, and they all kind of say the same thing, which is like, dude, he's amazingly talented. He's not a leader. And he's one of those guys that he's smart enough. He's, it's not like he's a magnet coom Lodhi like you know, he's bright enough guy. But he thinks he knows everything. So he tries to look for. You know, higher meaning for every little thing, just one of those guys like oh, where's people out? And because he was kinda brought up in this under lebrons wing. That's how you leave he tries to be LeBron James, and eviscerate dudes and film. And he's not LeBron James, and even LeBron member heat when when he lights into dude, which he didn't do this year this year, he would just turned very negative on guys. He's, he's still been LeBron James and all those guys have been brought in to play with him. Whereas, you know, Kyrie Irving was brought to the Celtics and then they played without him. And so it's just doesn't have a great field for the social jujitsu as a friend of mine, says of the moment, so I'm Kevin Durant. Like is that the guy one time I shipped to, like, I have a choice of Steph curry who's like look is Steph easy to play with. Maybe not. He takes him crazy shots. He turns the ball over you gotta hide from defensively, but as a guy he's easy or your career being who is a better ball. Handler is an incredible shotmaker differently. But does something actually better than Steph curry, but just everyday is heavy? It's not that much fun. I don't know. I just stay in Golden State. Everybody's everybody wants to -ccomplish all these things off the basketball for, you know, the best way to accomplish things out the best before's win fucking championships, excuse my language. If you have kids listening to this, but this whole idea of, you know, if you go to New York, you can lots of guys that played New York you see any of them on TV. No, you know why they're team sucks. That's why do I see Steph curry and a bunch of ads? Oakland was in some big market Steph Curry's. Awesome. That's it. I there that's it. Lebron James had no trouble. Getting ads in Akron or in Miami why? Because he's LeBron James. He's awesome. Russell Westbrook has no problem getting ads Paul Georgia's no problem getting ads. He played Indianapolis, Oklahoma City if you're really good, and you gotta get personality. You have options. Like it is just such a such a bunch of bullshit that you have got to move to New York. Why? Because rich climate lives in New York. All right. The perfect example, actually is billionaire row for the Golden State Warriors. What New York when all the people with all the money all the game changers there, right here? Hate to be that guy. But all the game changers in the world are in Silicon Valley, that's where the money is even in our industry. Like we're all just waiting to see when apple or Facebook or Google or Amazon, or Yahoo. They just they just buy something, like, all right. We have f you money here's f you like they do that. They can buy all of us ten times over. And you want move to New York, it's the media capital of the world though. It's not the capital of the world is in Silicon Valley. Dude, I hate to I hate to be that guys like this is not the nineteen ninety s two thousand nineteen all the money is in San Francisco, and all the unknown. And yeah, there's some pitfalls playing Golden State might not be your team, whenever they might only had to call in you to bail them out. You gotta play both ends gets a little bit old. Okay. I'll tell you what's worse. The monotony of losing teaching people who have never won. A franchise has never wanted to win. I just this whole idea of, like you got to go to New York why Jerry lane had to go to New York because he was a nobody got opportunity with team those banged up and a co in my and Tony you're not Germany lane. Your Kevin Durant. Stay where you are we in a bunch of titles, have the last laugh, by the way, you can listen to my daily radio show, three to six eastern or twelve three Pacific on Fox Sports radio or the iheartradio app. All right. Let's get you to Mike Lewis. He is just become a new assistant coach UCLA played it Indiana. He coached at Butler coach Nebraska coached eastern, Illinois. Because Texas Tech coach to Stephen F Austin without further ado, here's my discussion with UCLA assistant, former Indiana player and captain Mike. Lewis are let's start at the beginning. Right. Jasper indiana. That's where you were Mr. basketball in the state of Indiana. You're you're like you started hoop in win like birthright. That's, that's an Indiana thing you grew up hoop in the driveway. Did you have a half court outback get picked? You give me the picturesque, Indiana setting of Mike Lewis's upbringing. I had a basketball goal in the Dragway, but I was I was lucky to have a have a Dan. That was a basketball coach in high school. He coach in high school. So, I was I was lucky enough to tag along to practices and games. And so I was always I was always in Jim. But yeah, I mean everybody in Indiana grows up, you know, there's, there's hoops everywhere. I mean, if you can you got a flat side of the building, you can put a basketball hoop on it in Indiana. So it's obviously a great place to grow up. I was always around the game. My grandfather Coachman like I said, my, dad coached, my grandfather became the Commissioner of the Indiana High School Athletic association for many years until my junior year high school when he retired my dad coached all the way up until my junior year high school when he became the athlete director at our at our high school. And so it just always around the game very fortunate from that aspect probably like you just, you know, haven't been dad. At that allows you to develop and grow at your own pace, as a basketball player and, and when, when, when you're allowed to grow up that way you learn to love the game and appreciate everything that the game can give you. Okay. So you're dad was a coach. Jasper your entire your as your entire upbringing. We've now we moved we moved around like I was born in Indianapolis. My dad was an assistant coach at Lebanon high school, just on the northwest side of Indianapolis for legendary high school coach named Jim Rosen steel who goes, Rick mouth way back in the day. And that's what my dad got his start. And then he became a head coach TRITON central high school bluffs in highschool at frontier high school. And then we moved to Jasper Indiana when I was going in the second grade, he became the varsity, assistant, and Jasper, and was that held up position doing became they outplayed threat for my junior year high school, so he wasn't moved around him. We moved around. I was I was I actually, the funny story is I grew up Purdue fan when I was a little kid. I went to prove basketball camps, and I work camps as a counselor all the way up until I got into high school and. And then obviously Jasper from the south western part of Indiana, and you're, you're immersed in culture. And, and that's when it became pretty apparent Indiana chance. Why did you like why why did you like Purdue because everybody else like Indiana was one of those things. Well, yeah. I mean frontier high school was twenty minutes from previous campus. I spent a majority of my younger years up until second grade, I was northern Indiana. And at that time, like you didn't have, you know, ESPN wasn't big. He didn't. You got channel four. And so you saw the, the games on TV at that time in Indiana. You got Purdue and Indiana enough football Saturdays. You got Notre Dame. So I just grew up around premiere basketball until grade when we moved to south western Indiana. And and, you know, I was able to my dad worked at camps. I would go with him. I got to be a counselor at a young age and just kind of had them in. And then obviously things changed as I got older. Okay, so you're in high school. You're so your dad wasn't the varsity head coach not use a decision coach. So, and then when, when did you start playing varsity? I started playing freshman. I started as a freshman in high school. I I've played my first name I played three quarters of JV, one game of our Steve, my second game played and quarter of JV three quarters of RCN CNN. I've played the rest varsity. So you pointed out was actually I actually had a teammate, high school teammate, name, Scott Rolen who obviously is of major league baseball team. So he was a senior when I was a freshman and, you know, there's a pretty good time, a lot of people don't realize Golan was what a great basketball player. He was even Indian all star center scholarship in Georgia, and then obviously making made the right decision by by pursuing baseball. But outstanding high school flare, your childhood hero was who. Damon bailey. What town do date. I'm like, I know the legend of Damon Bailey and this is like that. You're gonna have a distinct cutoff between anybody. Our age in anybody like five years younger products, dozen. Right. Like I've just we're just being kind of honest, and it was because of is because of the season on the brink really where when Steve Alford was there who is all everything. All anybody could talk about was Damon Bailey committed Indiana's, like a freshman, and it was kind of looming over everybody's head that Damon, Damon, Bailey's coming. So, so take me through the day and bills and he grew up where he grew up in Bedford. Well, actually small town just outside of Bedford, but he went to bed from north orange high school. I mean I it's kinda hard to explain if you weren't growing up for work if you weren't in Indiana at that time it was like the Beatles. I mean everywhere he went every Jim was sold out, every game was sold out. He would just get mobbed everywhere. He went in a lot of it was, you know, because of the, the season on the brink book and the notoriety that he got from that when coach night when watched him as an eighth grader, but he I mean, and then he had a great great high school career how to had a really good college career. But just you know, I mean who can live up to the expectations of what was was put on him at that time. But it was it was everything anybody in the NFL time you wanted to grow up and then be Damon Bailey and, you know, the Pacers had started to get rolling as I. Got into junior high. And so, you know, then I guess, you know my second childhood, he wrote would be be Reggie Miller, which is kind of ironic. Now you're sitting on a campus where he, he wants walked around? I was his ballboy a couple of times, because I was I, I grew up playing with. With the hazard boys with the doc ha hazard and was Jalil and Rashid hazard and silver she'd and I we'd go ballboys and like, here's what people don't know about by Reggie. He was an unbelievable college players shooter, but they were terrible. They were massive underachievers like for, for years, they, they had so much skill. But he who Richardson Charles Rauch Lynn like they had a squad. And I remember going into like NIT games. And I was like how these guys in the NFL T when they're at UCLA was just kind of, it's kind of one of the things that gets glossed over a little bit. But that is, so you're not you. You're not. You was was much bigger at that time, you know, but I. Isn't that the sixties dude? Or seventies I'm talking mid. We're talking talking mid eighties UCLA in the mid eighties in the in the in the in the in the United against Fresno state in the red wave. That, that's not exactly what they were what they were thinking. So they beat I, I know they'd beat the hoosiers in that. But I was I was in Indiana all star in nineteen ninety six after I graduate high school and, and we were working out in Indianapolis since we're getting ready to play, Kentucky. And you know, Reggie was doing on individual workout on. Well, there was this little workout facility. I'm not even sure. It's still there was on UP wise campus, which is where we were practicing, and he was kind of finishing up workout, and obviously, you've got twelve Indian high school players, you know there. And so we, you know, they brought Reggie over and introduced us and we actually got to play, you know, a small pickup game you know, with him, you know, which, which I'm sure at that time, was a highlight of any of our guys, you know, careers, you know, to just step on floor and play against Reggie back in nineteen Ninety-six when he was ripping mourn for for the Pacers. So, you know, when you grow up in Indiana, you're, you're not you're, you're Purdue fan. You're you're in Indianapolis Colts fan and you're here in Indiana. Pacers fan and so to be able to step on the floor with him as a high school player at that time, you know issues for all of us. Yeah, in, in fairness, his senior, they did win the Pac tin that Pooh Richardson was a sophomore, that he improve Richardson getting Trevor Wilson, who was like an energizer bunny. Greg Foster was a freshman. Jackie the, the lake Jack Haley was there a boy, Kevin Walker was like six eleven shooter who'd be like a first round draft pick a stretch five nowadays. So they, they had a squad. But there were a couple of years, there Jill little murky when early on when he was at UCLA. All right. So your senior year were Mr. basketball was Gatorade player of the year is at the same as Mr. basketball actually, I was Gatorade player of the year. I was runner up on Mr. basketball. Kevin a guy named Kevin all went to Warsaw high school in northern Indiana and went and played a southwest, Missouri state now, Missouri to date in the Missouri valley actually was recruited by Steve Alford up. Missouri state. He won Mr. basketball. I came in second. We had there was a, a really good player named Iran, Cornell is going for new that finished under that, you know, honestly, looking back, there was a guy knew all be high school. The may have been the best player, you know, in Indiana that year name will not rolling and he, he had gone to ball state gun, some trouble ones in junior college, route and then finished his career at LSU, but when you get into practices, and you get into competing, we know how his guy stand out and, and Lamont may have been the most talented player in our class at that time. But no, I I was runner up. I was I was running. Her up to Mr. basketball. Not, not that, it's, it's still kinda sticks in my crawl little will. I know. I know so so and it should here's this is funny. So you like I'll tell you, I was we had, we had rankings, we the best in the west rankings, and a guy who is there's, there's a guy head of me on of seeing Yego. I'd never actually heard of. I think he played panned out flamed out sending state, but the guy who was like ranked behind me who I never played against was Jason Terry. And I was like who's Jason Terry from Seattle Washington, and the jet actually committed he was going to U dub? And then he changed his mind and went to air Zona. I remember for a long time. But like dude that guy, I've never even heard of him. Now. Obviously now fast forward. Radiant, he's awesome player. And then for me it was my, my second time round after I transferred from Notre Dame I sat out for a year. Kansas took. Ryan, Ryan Robertson was there. And Ryan Robertson was McDonald's all American ahead of me. And I look the Magic's round ball thing I got to play in Chauncey Billips was there was I was a replacement for Chauncey got hurt and their Stefan, marberry. There's one of the guy Brian Williams went Alabama. I thought that was better than Ryan Robertson. I always had like this personal vendetta against him because I was like, man. How could they take him at it? Kansas instead of me, and then I was like he's actually really good. He played the NBA and he's actually a pretty big it all works out. You know. You brought up Johnson goes, there's no question China. China. Go ahead. No. You go ahead. I've never I've never felt more helpless on a basketball court. And when I had to guard Tounsi Billups is the first round of the NCAA tournament, my freshman year, I think, for, like, hey, see, there are nine seat, you know, we kind of have a little bit of yacht, you elitist, you know, thaws like who's, you know, Colorado, you know, blah, blah, blah, and that we go in, and they smoke if they smokers. And you know, Cianci was just like he was just so strong so under control, you know, I'm a freshman and, and he, I mean, he gave me like thirty four thirty five months. Still matter of fact, I'm still waiting on some checks from Johnson because I think he was about a mid to late first round pick. And in the NCAA tournament after he, he dropped us off at IU you got into the lottery. So I'm still so hoping maybe the meet up with maybe it'll give me a little bit of that extra money. I didn't feel so bad years later, once he know became the NBA finals MVP, but I was I've never I've. It's a terrible feeling. I'm sure we've all had it, but I've never felt more helpless on about as well, of course than trying to guard. Chance. Phillips had played thirty two minutes only at twenty four points. I felt my forty four it does. Yeah. Right. That's funny. That's really I here's my, here's my here's my Chauncey story was he came out. I'm gonna say he was a junior and there used to be these events. The pumps would put on at Cal State Dominguez hills. And I don't remember who usually played with but, but everyone in Chauncey he was like the best guard in the west United States. And so he came, and he stayed at my house and. And like you know we we played together for a weekend. It was it was a good tournament. Maybe it was for like a week during the summer and it was like the first week of summer before you go to Vegas. He played with us and stayed at our house, we practice for couple of days. And I just remember like my dad was my dad always played point for my dad. My dad was like, you know, you can let Johnson built bring bring it whenever he wants which was my dad's have saying like he's so much better than you. And in fairness, like Chauncey was he was a scoring guard whereas obviously, even at that level like a facilitator but. But I just I remember playing and it's, it's one of those you have those moments when you're on a basketball floor and you're, and you're just like, oh, that guy's gonna play in the end of the day. And, and I and in southern California like you had a sense that. You know, was Paul Pierce or Ricky price or I grew up Jared Henderson, was on my team miles Simon you always thought like those guys are really good. But there was there was like this calm elegance to the way, he played that is a very unique style like other guys, they're just a I was at Georgetown Notre Dame. He played Georgetown and like Irish was just a physical freak because he was fast and quick. He wasn't. He wasn't very good. But he's fast and quick. And so it just made him like holy shit. You just hope he misses, but there was, there was no kind of uniqueness to his style just a blur, whereas Chauncey. I mean he was like sixteen years old, and he just he, he felt like an NBA veteran like he knew everything about everywhere. Everyone was supposed to be he was so any made shot who so good. Hey, I'm Andy. If you don't know me, it's probably, because I'm not famous, but I did start a men's grooming company called Harry's. The idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating experience. I had buying razor blades. Most brands were overpriced over designed an out of touch at Harry's. Our approach is simple. Here's our secret, we make sharp durable blades and sell them at honest prices for as low as two dollars each. We care about quality so much that we do some crazy, things like by a world class German blade factory obsessing over every detail means we're confident and offering one hundred percent quality guarantee. 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I'll start and back when I was in it, and it was a two week deal like you, you met up. You pack this for a week yet exhibition game you would play the Kentucky all star team and we played them in Lexington on UK's campus. And then you would have another week of practice and then you would come to Indianapolis and we played them then you play the Kentucky all star team again. And we played them in markets, where Reno is a huge series, a lot of pride between both states and us just a, a great honor. And I think it's something that I still remember, I'm sure anybody that's been a part of that, that experience is something that they remember the ones that got maybe Sean, the little bit. I think it's something that sticks sticks with them for. Some time you know that they, they hold onto, you know. And you just like the young guy, though, months at doing well just got, you know, who was the first round draft that he did not make the Indian all star team. And I just read an article the other day about about the mistake that was made on him. So, and I think it's something that he'd used as motivation and you got it the college the proofs some people wrong. So it's just unbelievable honor, you know, to grow up in a state, where basketball means so much. And then it'd be recognized at the end of your career isn't any all star and get to compete and represent your stating Kentucky. Some of it is some of it is hindsight, though, right? Like sometimes guys become better players. Like that's one of the things we do a bad job in the media of, like, I don't know what dealing with look like when he was a high school senior. But some guys just get just get better. And some guys don't get some guys top out or some guys go or some guys discover girls women when they get to college, you know. So I. Hype doesn't help these kids early high. You know, almost hinders somebody's kids like when I was when I was innocent coach baller. And we would tell the Gordon Hayward story all the time like at the end of Gordon Hayward junior year high school. He wasn't considered one of the top twenty players in the in his grade in Indiana and three years later. He's the eight pick in the world. Like I mean, how do you, you know, is he wanted physically matured? And he just he worked on his game. He developed and he was in the he was in the right situation where he experienced some success, he was in the right situation where he was able to play in contribute right away. And then, you know, the things just snowball and any became as pick in the draft is, it's an unbelievable story that in three years, you're not even up twenty in your own state in your own age group and three years later. You, you know, you're, you're a lottery pick, you know. So I think a lot of that early hype sometimes can can hurt kids. And then, you know other kids like people develop at different times, and they can continue to work and work. How finds McKinney is, you know with the with the warriors and everybody likes to talk about off on off on McKinney. I was on the staff at eastern Illinois. When we recruited I was one of the coaches that was part of the staff, that didn't he wasn't even in our top eight or nine freshman year at eastern Illinois. You know, we, we knew we had this kid and unbelievable athleticism use an unbelievable kid. You're trying to figure out ways the point. And and, you know, now he's contributing on a team that went all the way you can be a final. So everybody's got their unique story. I, I love reading about those, but let like what you said people develop at different times, and mature different times, and some people work and some people sit back and, and think about how good they are totally. No. I mean I, I use that with my my own son where he wasn't an all star in baseball last year. And this year he is and, you know, and he even has them ups and downs. And I was like, look, did you gotta, you gotta look at how much improved you know. And last year, I would play him up in a you not high level you. But, like I basically couldn't let them handle the ball because he'd lose it so much one, because he just coming from Connecticut to California. It's such a big jump, and then he's playing against older kids and he just didn't have it. So now he's able to bring the ball up against older competition and do decent job. You know and then when he plays against his own droopy. He's pretty good. And you know, it's, it's hard because you don't want to kill the kids confidence, the, the hand, you wanna teach them that it's not about a good yards about how much better you have gotten since yesterday. How much better, you can get kind of tomorrow, aren't you show up at India's? Nineteen ninety six right? I think you only had like I remember that team, you only had one senior, I wasn't harassment Zinivice to the only like senior, you have on that team is really young team for for a Bob nineteen wasn't it? Yeah. We had, we had a group of juniors and a group of freshmen that, you know, I think we're heavily relied on. And, you know, at that time, you know, that, that union classes, very highly regarded, you know, with Andre Patterson and Neil read, and Charlie Miller, you know. Jason Collier was in our class who was a McDonald's. All American AJ. Guidon was very under recruited but ended up being the best player. I mean you ended up as a senior was the first team all American. But we, we started three freshman to juniors. Our first game that year against Connecticut in, in the Hoosier dome in front of thirty five thousand so it was, you know, from women up in Indiana and watching that and, and being able to be part of that, and obviously getting getting the start. Your first collegian game was was pretty exciting for me. What, what's that like to? It's around you got candy striped pants on a white Indian jersey like, like I say, I, I mean, do you what is that feeling like to be in the locker room and to see your number candy stripe pants and realize, and you're running out at the Hoosier dome against Yukon? I mean, it's, it's one of the really cool experiences, you know of, of my life because you, you grow up, you know, it's like you know what when she wouldn't vision grown up out here, a, you know, you envisioned growing up out here, and then running out in Paulina UCLA uniform, like it's the same thing, just where I grew up. But yeah, it was it was a number label experience. And you know you at that time recruiting was much different if you had an opportunity if you're in Indiana and you had an opportunity to play it. I you that's where you're going. And they always really no other options, you know, like they had first rider refusal, you know, much. Like, I think UCLA has had out here for for a number of years and something that, that we need to get back to now, the, the we're out here, and it's, it's just kind of where you grew up. That's what you saw what you used to. And so, I'll be it was meant a lot to meet him put, put the uniform on and represent in the Ana joepat. That's that's really, really cool. What? Was did did because I do a home. Visit. No, man. My recruiting I might have been one of the easiest recruits of all time, like I started getting recruited by them my sophomore year high school. And when I say, recruited they invited myself and my dad and my high school coach to a game and we went up to a game and then my junior year, I kinda like I live in hour and a half away from, from Bloomington. So I kind of could come up anytime. I wanted any any game I wanted, and he got to a point, you know, I, I would I would take a buddy or you know, take a girlfriend, or, you know, sometimes my mom and dad would go with me and they were playing Minnesota late late in the year and back when Minnesota had Sean Leonard and I was told called up until most coming to the game. And, and you know, coach doc was like they wanted to bring your mom and dad, you know. So mom, and dad came with me on this trip, and, and they got beat by Minnesota, which did not happen. You I mean Indiana didn't lose us than we hall. Very often and during that time period. And, and so we were just gonna go home, like we know how things can get after a lawsuit, and we were going to go home, and, and dockage came out and said, no, no coach wants to talk to you. Once you guys stick around and so I remember sitting down in what they call the players lounge that there was. No, there was no lounge part of it. It was just kind of a room with the TV and three chairs and we said in there for what seemed like an hour and coach, I finally walked in with with his longtime media buddy bothering him on in the document. Was there and coach sweater off and his collar was half up on one side down on the other hair. All shovel you know. And he said, and you said Mike, I'm going hunting tomorrow. You know, anywhere I can shoot birds down around Jasper. And I'm I'm sixteen years old Doug, like I don't I never been hunting in my life. Like I had no idea. I you know, so I kind of like coach like buddies that do some Hon, I can probably help you out. But I really don't win. Where to go and be kind of deep breaths. And he said you wanna play ball here? And I said, yeah. And he stood up, and he shook my mom and dad and shook. My hand put his hand on my shoulder and said, all right. Boy, I'll see you later talked out and that was that was my that was my story. We want my mom and dad. We walked all the way out to the car, and we get to the car, my dad starts up, and before we take off, like nobody said a word of until that point once just happened. I said, I think I'm willing to Indiana. And, and that was it late in my junior year high school. And, and, you know, so that was, you know, I don't think I was really heavily recruited by them, but it it it worked out for everybody in the end. So that was my recruiting. So I think probably one of the easiest one, you know, good get. He did get Brian Evans on the phone call and said you wanna kinda hitting with the same thing you won't play ball here. And, and Brian's like to talk, my mom and dad. And you know, I think coach. So well, call you back in thirty minutes. And so going back in thirty minutes, it was done. And Brian was an NBA player and big ten player of the year. So that's just how it was back. It was a different time that we cruising services more. Now, you know, the, the TV was different social media would wasn't around. And, and so I think we cooling was much more reasonable. I'll tell you my UCLA story now. So because there are UCLA people that think I still like, have it in for UCLA. So my, my, my dad had UCLA season. Tickets since of really, I think not farmers when wall hazard was there. And so we would go and what he would do is he would, you know either give away or sell a lot of the kind of average games. We always go to the Zona game. They play Duke one year when there was both were top ten teams is unbelievable atmosphere, and we would go and, and, you know, they played Oregon state was good back then Zona stay. We'd go to you know, we go to a couple of weekend games couple of weeknight games. And. As I kinda got inherit took over. And and my dad was pretty close with Herrick and he coached in, in a select kind of all star game against the Russians. He coached Mitchell, Butler, and Tracy Murray, part of an unbelievable cruising class that went there. And so they never and then my sister was a cheerleader there. And she's was she's nineteen. She's like five years older than me. Really? So I was always there like I didn't go to practice much every once in a while, but it's like forty five minutes, our from my house, but I go to some games and the way it's kind of same thing with, like unofficial visits. So it might have been because we had season tickets. It was likely because I wasn't that good. Right. Like I was a because I stayed back. I was like a late bloomer, and most of the guys, I grew up playing with were class of ninety four which is an awesome class in the state of California. That's Toby Bailey. Jared Henderson miles Simon did Jilani Gardner. Don johnson. Bunch of dudes. So I remember like they weren't. They didn't offer me and the summer before when I was rising junior, the first day of summer is when they came out with an initial offers back then. So they offered Toby Bailey, first day of summer, he took the scholarship. And the way it worked then was we had there was there was like, three different big programs air sea mid valley, that was like Cameron Murray played on that team that was like mostly kids from the valley and surrounding areas. There was slamming jam Victoria Park that was Ricky price and Toby Bailey and later, Tremaine folks who went to Cal, Fresno state, and there's our team, which was team Orange County, and we had care Henderson from Bakersfield. We had Adam Walton, it's that's bills, oldest son, and then we had a bunch of Orange County kids as well in a couple of LA kids over like under the radar. And so there's kind of a rivalry there. Right. So, like, like we didn't like we didn't like, Toby then you know, as they was, it was weird like you know, in every moment in the semifinals. Finals every tournament. It's the same guys you're playing against. And this is since like sixth grade, like no, I didn't fucking like Toby Bailey. I didn't like know the Obama and boys were there. Like we've those are we wanted to beat them. Now we're supposed to play in the same team like so weird. So miles got pissed and, and then you know he ends up going near Zona. And so I kinda wanted I like you know, like best UCLA basketball on TV is big. But there was times, you know, locally just got swallowed up by the Lakers and other stuff. And I don't know the facilities weren't great back then. And so I kind of was I had a one I always wanna play Duke. So I went to a game during my junior year against Cal as UCLA cow and all these other guys that were seniors that had committed to going there were there, so JR Henderson, is my teammate and Chris, Don Johnson's my teammate like we go to the game together we meet up at the game and my seats are so fucking high that the concession man won't go up there like you know, I wanted to be a big baller and go to the player get player tickets, even though we had season tickets and I told my dad, like, don't worry about it. I got the team's leaving me tickets. So they like scramble. And they get me seats next to the rest of the guys, I was like what the fuck I'm way up. This is bullshit. So now I'm sitting with these guys. And then they send some manager out at halftime to listen to Harris halftime speech, and they don't get me. And I mean it was like the end my sister's like performing at the half or whatever, and I was like, okay, I guess, I know where I stand there. You know. So then fast forward to some. Of my next summer. Some of my senior. I'm at that I'm at the Las Vegas Hilton, and Jim hair calls music, Dougie, you know, you always wanted to be ruined and I was like, and I was kind of addict, and I said, not then because down I was like well coach in all honesty. I always wanted to play at Duke, but they took. Whoa. Joe last took BoJ. Oh, so. And we'll Joe is a year ahead of me. And so he said, well, we're offering scholarships UCLA like you won't play ball for us. It was kind of same sort of question. You know. And I'm sure he thought this is a layup kid grew up dreaming of playing at UCLA, and I was like, well, you know, I want to take a visit I want to think about it on. See what else is you know, I love how you guys play and they had taken a commitment from Guinea Malusis man who was like six four six five your class like best player in America type kid, and he was like, you know, he'll never qualify. He's not really UCLA guy, but he's so talented. We gotta take him. We take five. We play five guys five best players. UCLA hap- host offense. Not the only offense just the best. So. There were. So I was so bitter over not being recruited whatever, and they wrote me, Mark God for did a great job and Renzo Romar did a great job. And they called me. I never forget, so I take an unofficial up there. And it was still kind of weird because again like Toby was a freshman there. And. Yeah. I'd like I barely knew ties at and he was a senior on that team. Ed was. There was a senior Charles was there. And I just I don't know. I just I didn't get a great vibe on. So I was like, so I call co-chair can tell them, I'm going to Notre Dame and Godfrey calls me. He goes, I'm gonna you something. Now, we play we play all like December twenty second of nineteen ninety-five, not only are we gonna come in and whoop your ass. He's like, but it's going to be so fucking cold that you're gonna beg us to come back. And I was like he goes, he goes, but we love you. And my sister had been his baby sit or whatever so yeah. I mean, and then my when I when I left Notre Dame. They recruited me, but they're like, look. We're gonna take Barron, if we can get baron. And if we don't get there. And right. So, so I'm not bitter over that one. Because I mean, if you take me ahead of Baron Davis, you're the worst evaluator of town, all of sports, but, I mean, honestly, the first time around it was my choice. And they took it dude named Brandon Lloyd, who was who should have gone Oklahoma state from Oklahoma. They didn't get staff. They thought they were going to get Steph. And if I was probably their fallback like, well, we'll get Gottlieb and I went to Notre Dame. And so they took Brandon Lloyd who never really panned out at UCLA anyway. That's my UCLA story. Hey, it's quite Travis host of the out kick coverage podcast. Join me every day is I give you the nation strongest opinions on the biggest stories in sports, if you're looking for a sports podcasts at smart, original funny and authentic al-qaeda coverage, clay Travis the perfect podcast for you. I even recently launched a brand new podcast called wins and losses with clay Travis which features long form conversations with the biggest names in sports, business and entertainment. Listen on apple podcast or the iheart Ray. Radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. All right. So let's get let's get to you. I looked it up and you guys started out thirteen in one. Right. Like your only loss was to Kentucky beat Notre Dame. You guys beat Duke. You guys beat Princeton was good back then you talk about the Yukon game. You be Yukon like you guys were were rolling. What was it like you're like a freshman you had to be like this is easy. This is cake. You get. It's like when you get all that hype is a young player like you, then, you know, you've got to be able to stay stay in the moment and try to get better and better. But, you know, I it's like like any major program when you're when you're one in at a high level at a place like Indiana, and when you're wanting to I level, you know, in a place like UCLA, or Carolina, or juke, Kentucky, like it's everything then Shula badgen, you know, it can be like you're, you're walking on water everywhere. You're going you walk in a restaurant. You know, people are standing up and clapping and wishing you well, and then all those sorts of things, and, you know, it's, it's, it's what I think is so cool about the college basketball experience. Like, you know, I tell kids in recruiting all the time, like I absolutely loved my experience. It indiana. No. Every day it wasn't teddybears rainbows. You know. But it's it's not into not where you go. It's not going to be. But my experience prepared me for. For what I'm doing now. And I want the guys that, that I get the opportunity to coach and be around. I want them to feel about their experience the way that I feel about mine. And I think if they do that, you know, then, then my job as a coach has been successful and I love my time at Indiana. Part of, you know, Indiana basketball is a major part of who I am down to my core. And I loved it. I would do it again in Arpita, and that's, that's I understand the way that I feel Doug about about my time. And that's what you know that's what I want. These guys are UCLA to feel about UCLA and their experience here. When when their time here is done. That's how I want the guys that I Costa polar to feel about Butler, you know, now that, that, that they're away and there's nothing cooler about, you know, being a coach and then, you know, getting phone calls from former players asking for help for jobs called from former players, inviting you their weddings or call on you. You know, talk to that. Hey coach on, you know my wife knew. Have a baby. Boy, here in three months. You know, those, those are that really cool experience. And that's that's the experience that I had where I played. And that's what I want for these guys that I come in contact with. Yeah. It's, it's, it's really we will tell you the thing about social media, and you don't have to agree with it. You can feel free to discuss it, but I do think that we whether it's expectations and I got to be cautious of this with my own kid expectations or. Coaches are always the bad guys. NCAA's always the bad guys, whatever it is, like, I don't know. I still think it's a very high percentage. But I don't know if it's nearly as high a percentage of people that get it like look, everybody takes the floor like real dudes like me like real thoughtful, reasonable people, you take a basketball floor and you can pick out, which guys could really play in the NBA like you. And I probably thought like you know what if we got the right situation where somebody needs are skill set? Somebody enjoys our leadership. You put me in the right spot. Like, yeah. Why couldn't I be the third point guard in the NBA just like no doubt? Like I know what I could do. But you just gotta be you. Gotta get one team one guy, one team that believes in you that gives you the right opportunity, the right amount of minutes in summer league signs to a guarantee. You hang on for a year and then you kind of become an NBA player. But, but, you know, most most of us look around and you can tell us a fucking pro and who's not right. There's this sense where if you're not gonna make it as an NBA player at your current school, go somewhere else. And so there's not I think, as high a percentage of people that truly understand and enjoy the experience during the experience. Am I making sense like like that's created like, oh, you're not playing well? Fucking go. The coach never gonna play you. They're gonna Curto view leave go to another school and part of the part of the amazing part about college basketball is guy comes in and you and I got to start his freshmen. So this is different, but a lot of guys that come in, and they don't get the role they want, and they leave whereas its way better if you earn the rule you want at the place you originally enrolled in. No, you're, you're, you're dead on, like, I, I tell people all the time like like, like in. You've got to have good adults around the young person. But when you're talking to recruit, like, they're so self absorbed in what they're doing. They all want to go the NBA, a lot of them. You know, when you're at a place like UCLA, a lot of, you know, that may be in their future. But, but you also look at college, it's just not a three or four year decision. This is when you're choosing a university, just thirty or forty year decision, and, and I believe that if whether you're at UCLA for one or two years, and you're able to go the NBA, or if you're here for forty years, because you're always going to fall back on that time period in your life, and you're going to go back to those people to help you with whatever's next after basketball is over. So that's why I say it's thirty or forty year decision. I think that's why I'm so lucky to be in place. Like UCLA because not only does it have the basketball tradition and all the great players and the coaches and, and everything that comes with it. But you also sit on this campus with all the unbelievable people that are still shared with this university, and all the alumni that are. So those those, those guys are super tight like even the ones. No, the hair guys the, the, the ones that play for lab like they still get together. I mean look, you got Bob Myers is the GM of the freaking warriors. Right. There's a connection, you got people in Hollywood types. It's, it's really interesting how, but we have such a narrow sight of what college represents like you go to social of you ask people who cover the game in my position. College basketball is only there is a way station for the pros. Like that's not it. Dude. You get it's the people you're around are going to be the powers in business wherever you go to school. Let's have a bigger reach. Like you go to Indiana. Like when you get done in Indiana. If you didn't want to become a basketball coach you could've gone. Into sales, anywhere you wanted in the state because you were point guard I you. That's it gets overlooked. And that's what we got it. That's what we gotta get back to you. That's why I'm excited to be at a place like this because everything has offer not just from a basketball standpoint, but just like anything you want to accomplish you can get done here because the people that have been here or currently here, you know, and I think that's a special opportunity. Okay. Then how all not been how you ever talk to me when I was a player. I mean I wasn't good enough to get recruited. Never talked me as a player, okay? I've competed against his teams twice when I was at Nebraska. Okay. And get nothing more than the handshake on the handshake line. I'm NBA top hundred camp. Two weeks ago. And I got UCLA L UCLA on my chest. And we chatted it up for five minutes with his staff and my staff, you know, just because I got UCLA on my chest. I'm have been around the guy competed against the guy. I was just in a dude. Right. But now I got you save UCLA on much chest. And now, you know, he's like what you said the connection of the part of the family. These guys are tightening. And it was really cool to be. Able to talk with him for a few moments couple of weeks ago. Okay. So take me to the you're famous for a lot of things you're probably most famous for the guy who stared down coach nights. Right. It was it was what year was Super Tuesday, and they're playing Michigan. And you I've, I've seen the play multiple times where somebody from Michigan drives to the basket, and you're, you should be the help man to take the charge. Instead, you're like fronting in the low post and a guy drives. Right up your butt and lays the ball in. So was that was that one of the was that one of the five boys Dane, fife drove up. You're like I'm trying to trying to think years now. It was all first name was Robbie. I forget his last show. Robin reid. Yeah. Robby, Robby, res Abbas the coach BYU so robbery drives up and your and you don't see the ball and and coach night. Lazing you give me what yours is what you're you in school. I'm a sophomore. I'm a sophomore or like you said, we're playing Michigan. And you know, I was I was out of position by our defensive levels. But, you know we had we had walked through day before. I mean mission was really good. I mean they had, you know Robbie they had Mayfield Bastin tractor trailer Marie Taylor Louis Bulak. I mean they were do it now. And so I'm guard is expensive. Does expensive team right there? They, I believe I believe they were over the over the cap or. That was not a cap friendly team. That's that's really what happened. They were put on NCA probation. They, they were over the cap. So that's, that's right. Is that the player rod? Your holiday real quick, Dorado word was on that team. This is the famous rod word story, K drug ward visits UCLA. He's like the number one wing in the country. And he visits UCLA and the O'Bannon guy boys are like the nicest dude classiest dudes ever. So Charles O'Bannon chose them around campus. And this is back when UCLA was picking dudes, right? Yep. And so Gerard ward would would tell people that he's going to be better than Michael Jordan. And he believed it coming out dead on. So, so Dr ward, he gets done with his visit UCLA. And he's like tells Charles band, you could ask Charles when he comes to one of the vents. Hey, man. Thanks for being so. Nice to me. I don't know why you were gonna come and take your job. So whatever that was like his last words to UCLA players like thanks. It'd be nice to me, but I was gonna come take your job and that team was that was that was after they fired the staff. Right. Because they got caught cheating, but it was they still Lou Bulaq, Robert. Traylor drawed ward. Macy Obama in Robby Reed. Brandon Smith through transfer play for my brother. That was that was that was expensive team. Okay. So Bobby re drives your backside. You're not in hell. Well I'm not help, but we in walk through. They, you know, they're running America's play a little, you know, cross screen down screaming down. So, yes, so there, you know, Louis bull Oxana across green on the baseline for tractor trailer and then to get a doubt screen from Marie. You know. And so would walk through just kind of bumped the cutter and and change whoever was mimicking bliss bowl walk up the middle. You know, make sure on there when he catches for this three and you know, coach explains to me that tractor trailers like two hundred seventy pounds and he's gonna knock me across, you know, under the bleachers, if I don't, you know, really Chuck, even, you know, and then just chase like hell of the top, make sure you're there on the catch, you know, for Lewis. And so that plays calms. I'm sniffing it out. So I turned my back and I'm back in, you could you could really physically bump cutters like now you can't really do it. And so, I to, to four arms in detractors chess. I'm trying to bumping, and then I'm just gonna take off running. Well Robbie beats. Forget it. You know, I don't even know who was garden robbing just beats him. He's laying it up right over by over my shoulder. And so. Coach gets up and informs me that I was in the wrong defensive position. And I said me. So we, we see we see the screen, we see it on TV. No. But what was what he really say. I'm not sure I think we'd probably exchange pleasantries and, and we moved on, you know, the thing about that whole Doug, is like that happened. It was captured on TV because it was coach. It, it became a huge story we go down the other end there was a, a whistle. So we come out to a TV timeout. And that's you know win what, what you're talking about happens. And I sit out he takes me out for about a minute and a half. He talked to me, very calmly on the bench. And then I went on and played and had them. I never really talked about it again in. And honestly, from that point on, I think, at least from my standpoint are player coach relationship grew immensely for the over the next two and a half years because you yourself like I, I don't know if it was that, or if he just felt like you know, he had somebody that he could he could trust. And believe the help try to lead the team the way that he wanted it done. I don't know. But from that point on our. Relationship was was unbelievable over the next two and half years of my my career, but you know, it's a it's a thing that happens. Unfortunately in the in the heat of a moment with, with some competitive guys we've all we've all seen it would've been better if they would have been at halftime in behind closed doors. Yeah. But it happened when it happened in and him. And I never talked about it against you were his last point guard. Right. Because because we were getting ready. I guess we were ready to play you, Pete by Pepperdine. Yeah. When you're bringing great memories. No, I'm well I mean. Okay. So, so I'll we'll get then we'll do that best memory of playing it. I you. Just I mean I, I don't know. I can't name one. I think just like I said the way that I feel about my like sitting here, today, my office at UCLA looking back and the feeling that I have when I think about my experience in those four years. That's the best memory. And, and what the position that it put me in to be sitting here today, the people that I interacted with the people that I was able to on the make connections with and just like the overall foundation to do what I'm doing now is, is the number one memory. You're at the Neil read practice though. Right. We that was was that your freshman year. Yes. That's my freshman year. Yeah. Do you, do you does it dyke at the time that had happened? Do you remember it being as big because the video didn't come out until years later, right? Yeah. Yeah. When the time it happened like, I, I don't remember it, you know, being, you know, something, just crazy like home. I got, you know, like in the tape, you know, came out going into tournament, my senior. So almost three and a half years later. You know, like, rush on really what you're a player, you're so you're so self absorbed about how you're playing whether or not coaches on you, or you know, how things are going, you know, on campus or how your girlfriends do on, or you know, you're, you're just so worried about you, that, you know, if it didn't directly involve, you sometimes you just don't you don't pay that much attention to it? And unfortunately when you're when you're in those things. And you're practicing one hundred times a year, and you go through the course of your career, and you've got four hundred plus practices, plus all your weight sessions, and your workout, you know, if it didn't really directly involve you not sure much, how much of an imprinted in made on you. One thing that, that coach Knight taught you that you still use to this day. Do your job. Just do your job like, don't worry about anything else being do your job. And that was one of the, the things that he left me with when I was a senior when you called me in about three quarters away through my senior year. And I told him I wanted to coach, you know, one day and you said just do your job. He's a don't worry about don't, don't go into any opportunity and think it's beneath you. If your first job is to sweep the floor, then be the best, you know, floor, swagger, in the country, and it's gonna lead to your next opportunity, and so on, and so forth, and he's never been more more right on anything's ever say, like I've tried to get jobs. Like I've reached out to people and trying to get jobs throughout my career. And I've never gotten any of them every job. I've I've ever gotten you know, kind kind of they came to me, or, you know, through some kind of mutual person that, you know, brought my name up, but I've never gotten a job that I went after the jobs that I've, I've always gotten kinda come, but my way. And, and I think that it's happened because of the just doing my job. Whatever it is just trying to do your job to the best of your building. And you do it well enough. Then your next opportunity is gonna come your way you get done playing it. And we played against each other in the USB, L, Rick berry was your coach. What was he like? Obviously he's one of the great players ever played the game. You know, he was I think. You know, Rick, Rick, Rick was an interesting character because like I was I was all fired up to play for Rick obviously is one of the great coaches and you know, but when you're doing with, with guys in US, B O, like sometimes things don't come as easily us as it did you know, to him and, and I think he would give frustrated with that at times, but it was a great experience. I mean, obviously, you know, it was different than anything I was used to, you know, I was going from Indiana, and we were flying on private planes, saying in great hotels. And now you're on the six AM flight back into Konami, and you're staying at a motel six or something, you know. So it was just a motor all different experience for me. And, but it was it's just part of your story, you know, you, you, you stack those experiences and those stories on top each other, and that kind of makes you who you who you are. And it was a fun time. I'd never is the first time I ever came off a ball screen. We didn't run. Boston's in Indiana. We ran motion offense coach with painted ball screens. And so it was different for me. You know, being a point guard and trying to learn how to play off a ball screens and make all the region. And, you know, I do know there was first places, the, the wake up in Fort Myers, Florida at that time. Yeah. It was it was nice down there. We actually stayed. There was some Oklahoma stike. This is one of those things that like guys should know. So we're playing for the Oklahoma Oklahoma storm in Enid, Oklahoma. And we had like five Oklahoma state guys and our announcer was getting Robert Allen, who's like has a radio show in Stillwater, and he hooks us up. There's some Oklahoma state alum, who's got a condo in Santa on Santa bell island. And so we came down. We played the team in Sarasota, Roy Jones is team. We played guys then we played you guys on back to back nights, and then we played Roy Jones team. And then we, we left is like four games. We might have had one day off. Anyway. We stayed in Santa bell island. We were like this is unbelievable. This is so great, who was the who is who is the best player on your team that year. By the way of looking at your, your playing card is available you have in your playing cards. I have one of your plan Kurds here. I'm not sure I even putting. No, I had one, I didn't know the best response to the Florida sea dragons was, you know, talking about connections of where you where you were, there was a, a guy named shoot similar who just passed away, this past year was a longtime coast down in that area. That's smaller college. And he had a beach house, and he had like he had like three bedrooms, up top, and he had converted like the basement lower level floor in the two one bedroom apartments. And we were staying I like a courtyard, you know, the whole team is, you know, you're in a courtyard, you got a roommate, you know, and he, he offered me to come stay out at his his beach house in one the apartments down below where he stayed and gave me an old beat up red truck that he had that he wasn't used. So instead of having to drive. The in the mini vans from the courtyard to do everything with everybody else. I actually got my own place out out of Fort Myers beach, and it was it was a great, great experience. But I, I couldn't I couldn't tell you who I didn't know I had a player's card, Doug, I I'm not sure who are best player was you don't remember team like do we I had it. We had a squad. We I renewable he played in the NBA will you what a bunch of guys you knew like I went down and play with a bunch of guys that, that I didn't know. And I mean I we got rapport night down there. So I'm trying to block out a lot of those memories there. But you got rods. All we, we went to we went to a nightclub and we were flying out the next morning for some, some trips some road trip. And I think we had just gotten her paychecks. And, and so we went to a there was a concert at this nightclub and we all went to this nightclub, and we left, we left early little bit before the concert was over and yeah, we got we got jumped in the parking lot. And then would that we two shots were fired through the front windshield of seven Astro minivan. And we had to turn that in the next morning was we're going to hit their port. So there's nothing like turning in a mini van Damme. The Rick Barry with two bullet holes through the front windshield, not even know that everybody's? Okay. So. It was a great experience. I have. No. I had no idea. Like we had. I mean, we have Willie Burton we had who's nine pick of the draft mentioned. I renewable. We had, we had a good and then we had the Oklahoma state guys as well. We had I my dad told me and I think I might have said this in the pod. My dad told me I remember we were doing training camp, and we had Bubba wells would lead the country in scoring use the second round pick of the Mavericks. I remember my dad said, like, hey, there's always a reason and I go, he's like, there's always a reason. These guys are in the NBA. And he's like, he's like, you know, like with you, it's like you, mentally yet your shooting. But sometimes it's somebody eats, her way out of the NBA some people, you know, it's, it's women, it's drugs. It's you know they're gambling. It's like something and I swear to God we had, we had a guy that we had somebody checked one of those boxes. I'll throw we're like damn. Why is that guy? Not play. Still play playing in the NBA. And then you hang around him for weeks like oh oh, he's on drugs. No doubt. Of course. Okay. So then you play. Would then you played over what did you play overseas? I went to I went over to Belgium. And I was in the what was it told him? Liam Belgium raising some. Something like that. I was there. I was there. I'm trying to think I've been a few places. I guess I got a lot of things going on. Right. I'm trying to get a house in my family. We got some things going on out here right now. But I was in the age Belgium. And when out there and had a, you know, had a contract, I thought like it was decent. And, and. We play one game and go through training camp replay game I got eighteen and you always compare yourself to the American on the other team. Right. So the, the American I guarded on the other team had thirteen they'd beat us on a last second shot. I get called in the next morning and I'm sitting around this, this conference table in this office in the coaches in there. The president that I've been introduced to was in there and then some other guy who I don't know who he was. They're in their in their speaking French, and then they were speaking leash to me, then they're speak, French. And then English me and I was like this is not going to go. Well like you could just tell. Right. And so they informed me that they were releasing me the day after one day. And they, they informed me that they had signed another point guard and come to find out, it was Michael huger, who is now the head coach at bowling green, and Michael had been like the he'd been like. MVP. I team all league in the in that league the year before and had had some problems with his physical with his team might seem was kind of new to the top division. So they, they cut me and, and sign Michael Huber, and I was, I was out out tro, and I just, remember I landed in about two or three days later, all this September eleventh stuff happened, and I was out out of the, you know what? Like I know what I wanna do. I'm not a pro. I'm not gonna play in the NBA. It would have been a great experience. I know what I wanna do. And so I reached out to coach night. He was in the source year at Texas Tech. And he said, hey, you come down here next year, and, and be a grad assistant, you know, and so down to Stephen F for year. I went wide started. Text tech is a grad assistant. I was a grad assistant at two years at Texas Tech and then I my first division. One job was Stephen F Austin. Yeah. Fulltime Stephen F, Austin, huge, huge money. I told my wife I say, hey, you know, the hardest thing in coaching is getting that first platoon to get on the road recruit everybody wants recruiting experience as a young guy. You're like, you know, listen. I, I can develop relationships. I just need an opportunity. You know. And, and Finally, I was given an opportunity to to get on the road. And I remember going back to my wife and telling, hey, you know, I got the job full-time do you wanna Sistan twelve thousand five hundred four tours? You know, and and, but we made it and we've made the big time, we're finally in, you know and, and sometimes it's what it takes me. He's need an opportunity. And I've been very fortunate ever since when you're at Tak was beard, unstaffed, then. I got Chris was in Chris was an assistant, coach trips with actually kind of the, the guy that helped me get the job that has Stephen F Austin, he had worked for Danny Kaspar as an assistant when he first got it's got started. And Danny had reached out to the Chris about, you know, needing a young guy to fill a spot, you know in August. And, and So Chris gave me my name in Danny reached out, and we went from there, so, you know, Christmas kinda really. The guy that got that ball rolling for me. Did you did you have any idea he would be this kind of coach? No, I did. I mean it's, it's hard to like everybody like oh, yeah. I can see, like you know, I did. I mean they thought you know when I was a tech I thought they had a really good staff. You know, guy named Bob buyer was on the staff who who's now an assistant in the NBA Pat Knight was on the staff, and then Chris beard. You know, and those were the guys that were were coaches assistance during my time there. So it was a great learning experience. Obviously, you know, being around coach on the other side and seeing how he attacked each day how he prepared for practicing games, and just kind of how he managed the office and went about running a college basketball program that you didn't see as a player to see it on the other side on the people to be in those meetings was was great. And then obviously to be around those three three individuals and and you know, be able to pick their bring every day was was really good. You were were you were eastern before you went to Butler, right? Yes. I was at eastern Illinois for six years with Mike Miller, who who I think been the head coach of the New York Knicks G league team for several years. And I, I believe if I if I heard correctly may just got moved up to the bench level in the NBA. So so congratulate him. Great really good bass. Oh, she's a very difficult job. Okay. So how did how did it come apart? You come about that. You've got the Butler. So I actually took a job with Puerto Moser Lehohla when he got the job Chicago. He was looking for a, a young guy that could recruit in the midwest in Indiana. And, and my name was given to him. And he reached out. I took the job. I, I was actually in Chicago for about two and a half weeks. Importer. I get a phone call from porter. And I was I was actually back in Charleston to see my wife, who was getting ready to deliver our second daughter and porter goes, hey, Brad Stevens just called me. Wants to talk to you about a job. What are you going to do? And I was like what, what are you talking about? And, you know, Brad in physical, Brad fashion, he called porter. I and as porter you know, if you could talk about job and do the timing wasn't great. And I give I give you know, porter a ton of credit and Brad said, hey, listen. Mike doesn't know about this. You don't have to worry about him getting upset. Set you know, this is just you and me. Nobody else knows about it, and porter just taking the job and trying to get get that program rolling, and I always be indebted to porter because he gave me the opportunity to talk to Brad about it the job. And, and, you know, you can't you end up doing to work for Brad Stevens. Coming off a two final fours of Butler, you know, you take it, it's kinda like you know, when Mitch reached out to me here, like you don't tell you CLA. No. You know. And, and so that's how I got the buzzer, I was there for five years. Two of them with Brad. And then before he went to Boston, and then Brandon Miller for a year, the last two years, we're under Chris Holman. If you could. Okay. So I asked you about about coach night. I'd same question kind of about Brad like, what is it? Brad, Brad is just one. I think he's very comfortable with who he is. He he is Hoover Hoover intelligence and he's prepared overly prepared for every situation. Like you're, you're not ever going to catch him not prepared. And I think he's very efficient in how he works and how he prepares how he runs a practice. And I hope I've told people just before and they look at me like kinda. Really, really strange like what night and what Brad Stevens want from their players from their program that type of people that they want their program to stand for or exactly the thing. Now how each one of those individuals go about achieving that or opposite ends of the spectrum and both worked for each individual. But you know, it's like it's like eating eat meat company. Now, you look you look at especially sports, you looked at the patriots, or you look at, you know what the warriors have done like like the main components of those things are all the same now, the how they go about getting them. Sometimes they, they do it their own personal way what you have to do you gotta be who you are. But those guys were very similar what they wanted. They just go about it in different ways. And they've, they both have the gene a ton of success. Your second year there, you guys got to I'm going to say the Sweet Sixteen is that right, right? Or did you lose? I guess you lost in the second game you beat Bucknell. And then you, you lost a Marquette, but, but this is and but now you've gotten a chance to be a part like the first year was I mean, you'd lost, they lost Gordon Hayward the year before. And then they lost shelving MAC like you lose to the like all time, great Butler players. And so you and, and the competition got stiffer and you didn't make the NCA term second year you do so you get to see kind of Brad at at a championship kind of caliber level in game. What is he like? He's really good. Like I said he's prepared for every situation, you know. And you know, we, we be book now pretty pretty handily in the first round and then we got against Marquette, and they were really good. And you know, we, we helped out of a ball side corner author shooter and gave up a three to for them to take lead. And then we had an opportunity at the end, and we, we didn't get a great shot, you know. Okay. So, so we don't mind me asking. So for people who don't know you were Brad's offensive coordinator, correct? No, not that. No. I didn't do that stuff for Brad. Brad did his stuff? Oh, that was Intel and still puts you put in that position. Right. Yes. Okay. So, so they, they hit a three did you guys call time out your judges come into something where we got we got down the other in the floor. I'm not sure how we got got to, but we had a side out of bounce with a short Clack on a side out of bounds and we. Had a time out. We use the time out. I don't know if we use it or buzz us with there was a time out in of both came out in two one three one on the set out of bounce. You know, it's really, really good. Really good. And you know, it gave us some problems. We, we got the ball Andrew Smith at the top he got gotta shot off, not a great look and and, and didn't make, but it was it was a really, really good college basketball game. And you know we, we had Rodney Clark on that team killing down on that team to we. We could score some points, Andrew Smith. You know, Roosevelt Jones was was younger cameras was younger. So we had some guys that can compete just a really good college basketball game. I think we were the, the sixth seed and nothing more cat was maybe three playing down there and Mexican. So it was a obviously a bitter loss. And then, you know, I was we were in the eight ten that year. So my time my. Five years of Butler. We're in three different leagues. We're in the horizon league than the eighteen and then ultimately made the move to the big east. And I don't think people understand how hard that is to, you know, you go from the horizon, which is like, low major right most leagues like Lou major to the eight ten, which is a good high major league you know, especially then, and then the big east, and it's a massive step up in competition because you have teams you know, Villanova kind of coming down from us from a high major eighteen was more, mid major, and then the big east than was like a mix of like the mid high mid majors, and low high may there's a reason Nova was struggling a little bit and the old big east. And all of a sudden, you come down you playing against the new big east competition, and they've just throttling people. Right. So it's a it's a different level on day to day in terms of who you're playing against as opposed to who you're previously recruiting play against is that accurate. No question with without a doubt in, and we were with having rotten you Clarkston now. And we had some talented guy, I mean Roosevelt Jones's guys who good players and killing down good player. And then so we were able we competed very well in the eighteen ninety we finished third h and with a very strong year for the Saint Louis was really good that you're and then we got the NCAA tournament. And then our first year in the big east, you know, we Roseville Jones was hurt. He tore up a wrist on a on a trip to Australia team to or we took our team, Australia. One of those foreign trips any tour of a risk and was out for the year and we weren't we weren't prepared from the roster standpoint to make that jump that quickly. And so our first year in the in the big use was not very good. And then the next two years, we, we competed, well, got the NCAA tournament, and, and, you know, giving has had some success and kinda set them up. For you know where they are now. But it took us a recruiter able to get chemo and Martin in one of those early recruiting classes. And then you just, you know, you have guys that Cam woods Roseville Jones and coming down that we're leftover new piece those guys together, we had a really tough kid that was a walk on him. Alex Barlow baseball players. Baseball guy. He he you know, he works in the Celtics organization, just a just a really tough guy and. You know when you had those competitive people on your team, you got a chance. And that's, that's kind of how we, we were able to survive there Butler, and we have, you know, countdown shoot, and stinky, when Martin you know, he rolled out of bed getting eighteen to twenty so you put those guys together, and we were able to, you know, Holdman did a great job of kind of holding that whole situation together. And, and we had, we had a really good group of kids that cared about winning really didn't care about how we want just cared about winning. And so we will keep it rolling. Okay. So Brad, let me go back though. Which win Brad lease. Where were you in, when you find out Brad's can it go to the NBA? Brad called. I was sitting in a in Brandon those core, we're heading to get coffee on the last day of camp. It was the last Friday of four of we have we ran four weeks of camp Abubakar that time and we just finished up our camp staff meeting we had like an hour before the campers we're gonna start rolling in and we. I would just getting in the car to go get a Cup of coffee and, and Brad called Gelinas know that he wouldn't be a candidate. So after lunch that Danny aines was coming and he was sitting down with them. And we knew I knew at that time, a new Bradwell enough and been around through, you know, I mean every every school was calling Brad at that time, you know, I think if I was eating the time when, when you see a reached out to Brad about coming out here and I knew the fact that he had actually was going to sit down face to face that, that this was real. It wasn't just somebody gauging interest or budgets, you know, saying, thanks, but no. And, and I just remember hanging up the phone, you know, when bringing on the phone, and we had that conversation on speakerphone. I just looked at brand. I'm like this, this dude's gone. Man. He's going to Boston and and and good for him. You know what a what an opportunity, but yeah, that's, that's where I was going to get a Cup of coffee sitting in the kinkle. Dell's parking lot when I found out. Okay. So did you have a chance to go? No, I, I you know, I really I did entertain anything, you know, really. Like I, I was really happy in Indianapolis. I thought we had some good stuff going, you know. And not I never I never asked and I was never off, you know. So I was at that time when Brad left, I tried to get the buzzer head coaching job. I interviewed with I interviewed with very call your twice. So that's you know, I knew how the Butler way worked. I knew the opportunity like this is how, hey this is how. This out that Mata got the job is, you know, this is. You know, lik ladder guts job this, how Brad got the job like this is how this place works. You know, Matthew grays had already left to go to south Alabama. Like, you know, like, if I'm if I'm going to have a shot at this, this may be my shot, you know. And, and so I tried to prepare a very short amount of time. The interview with berry and got to sit down with Barry, call your twice. And, and ultimately, he hired Brandon Miller, but that's kind of where my focus was at that time. Okay. So what's that? Like to be like you said lobbies, you're closer, Brandon Miller and here in the car, hang up. Then you guys are both fighting after the same job. He gets it. You don't you stay. And what was what's that, like? And then you just your professional you do the job. You focus like you, you, you deal with your initial disappointment. Right. I mean, there's going to be human emotion there, you deal with the initial disappointment of, you know, being maybe as close as you're going to be to that opportunity and really at that time in my career, the closest I had been to something like that and out of school, like Butler, you know, you're, you're, you're disappointed. But you're also like, hey, I got you also have a job to do. You've got a family you need to take care of, and you've got a team full of, of athletes that, that you've grown close to that you care about and you wanna you made me turn your folks. So, hey, what's, what's best about for these guys get out, get outside your selfishness? Get outside yourself and try to focus on. What's, what's best for the people that lien on you, and that are around you? You know what's best for them? And so, you know, it wasn't awkward in any way, you know, we had worked together before you know he. Had played their you know, buried recruited me, like I got all the connections. He was a Butler guy like I get it. I respect all that I respect, you know, I, I played for a program, which tradition I work at a program right now. That's all you rich and for tradition Butler, you know, has their own traditions, like I respect I understand all that. And so it wasn't really difficult for me. Once I got back into the job to do my job. You. And then you work for Holt who got the job when Brandon takes leave of absence and really empowered you. But then you took a chance and I remember you and I talking about about going a basket. Like, look, I got, you know, I gotta I gotta try this. What was because there's lots of basketball coaches listeners what was the decision like to leave Butler, where you had Keelan Martin. You had dudes. You've figured out how to compete in the big east and you're you're in your comfort zone in Indianapolis, but there's a you know you keep bumping into kind of a ceiling there. What was the what was the thought like about about leaving leaving for Nebraska? Well, you just said, I was in my comfort zone, and I felt like for me to, to grow, I needed to get outside my numbers, I, you know, we talked our our players all the time about workouts, you've got you've become comfortable being uncomfortable. You know, you can't you're not gonna get any better if you work out at a comfortable place or comfortable pace you get expand your boundaries. You know and after your chew with Chris, Georgia Tech approach Chris about an opportunity that he, he ended up not doing and, and I knew, again, going back to the Butler way of promoting from within, I knew how that whole process, you know, place and Chris, turn that down and, and, and came to us at the staff and say, hey, I'm going to sign a longer term deal here with Butler, this is this is where I wanna be. This is the lifetime decision from being, you know, with the timing of everything on the bresca had an opening that, that, you know, I could get involved with. And just felt like with everything going on. You know, if I wanted to take the next step that it was, this was an opportunity that I had really considered, you know, as far as one jump into the big ten which I'd played in love being a part of the big ten and, you know, it's the highest level of college basketball, you know it's one of the premier leagues in the country. And so you get a compete against those coaches against those players every day from, you know, from the basketball point to the to the recruiting and everything that goes with it, and it was just an opportunity to do that in plus get out of my comfort zone a little bit as as a coach. You know, I grew up in Indiana was coaching in Indiana. You know, when you're at Butler, you kinda you recruit, a certain type of player, a certain type of kid has to fit the Butler way, so to speak, and I wanted to, to expand myself a little bit, and, and take on a different challenge. And, you know, Kristie giving me a ton of response. As far as you know, calling the alternates and things there. He allowed me to grow immensely as a coach because he gave me those responsibilities and he gave me an opportunity to fail. I mean, that's how you learn you fail you learn from it, and you and you, you, you don't make that same mistake again. So I felt like well in my time with with Chris that I'd really grown as a coach. I really expanded my knowledge as a coach as far as you know in game Klay calling and different things and, and that it was just the timing of everything in his commitment to two Butler that it was time to take the next step. And, you know, I didn't in hindsight, I didn't realize he was going to go, how state, you know, twelve months later, but as I'm sitting here at UCLA, I think everything is has worked out. You just I've always tried to make decisions when they've come up on my plate in my career with the, the knowledge that I have and try to make the best decision at that time. And then once you make that decision I never looked back. I don't look. Hey, what if? For just happened that not, not at all early says every says that. Not at all. I, I mean I'm talking about it right now to you. But like I don't like I made a decision that Nebraska and every day I was at Nebraska, I worked my ass off to make that decision the right decision. I think that's your job. Listen. I understand that. But, but I but I mean like look if I'm honest, now's that he SPN for nine years, and all I really I mean, I wanted to make a certain amount of money, I wanted to continue to grow, and they offered me, honestly, the exact amount of money that I wanted, but they wouldn't promise any growth and pro, you know, at at the moment, there, I was little selfish, and I was like, why don't you, you know all I ask for like these five things. And you said, no, but you said, yes. To the money that I wanted. And, you know, CBS offered me the opportunities that I wanted. And, you know, a little bit more money but I had to uproot my family. I look in hindsight. I don't know. I, I mean, I would just be honestly if I could go back and do it, I wouldn't have gotten to do the final four. But there was also a lot of moving a lot of hard stuff with the family. In terms of moving. I think it's a reasonable thing to look back into say was this, the right decision was it the wrong decision doesn't mean you can't. Like I've every day, I worked there every day, I've worked at FOX, like, I try, and, you know, kick ass. I think about the Oklahoma state job, I didn't get, like I think it's I think all of these things are reasonable to look back at can you honestly, not look back in have any sort of regret like, dude? If you would've stayed there, I don't know if they hired about the might I mean he played at Butler, he was a head coach. You didn't have head coaching experience, but you were there or you could have gone to Ohio State still been in the big ten you know, at a better spot than Nebraska, in terms of getting players like that. That's not a reasonable thing to at least think about. I think you can. I think you can look back and learn from decisions you make. But I don't spend a lot of time. Wondering what if, like, like, okay say that does sound like what you said, maybe that the scenario plays out? I'm outta while stay do I have the opportunity to be at UCLA who knows you don't know that's why I don't spend a lot of time. Like, there's so many what if there's so many different scenarios, like all, I know is like I made a decision to go to Nebraska. I worked my ass off every day that helped that program. You know, get better in the last two years, we had the best two year run since ninety one. Okay. So I think it's in a better spot than when I when I first got there and now I'm now I get the opportunity to work at UCLA, if I don't go to Nebraska making, I'm not ever here at UCLA, and this is this is a really cool opportunity. You know, for anybody in college basketball, and be able to coach you now UCLA. So that's why I think I think you can look back at the decisions you make, I think you can learn from. But I don't I don't spend a lot of time like, oh, I could have done this or what if this would have happened like because I think it just takes away from from the job that you have at hand and I've, I've been very fortunate by just doing the job. I have hand and trust in the process that is going to lead to whatever's next. And like I said, I get on pretty lucky. I, I've been really lucky to be where I'm at. But that's how I've gone about my career and I'm sitting in Westwood so I'm not to upset, I'm, I'm not going to change, you know. Maybe it's wrong and say, like never looked at, but I don't allow myself to spend a lot of time wondering about the what is, you know, just thinking about how I can get there. I think you learned from the decisions you make. If you had to go back and do it again, like it all depends on the time. That's why I say, I just went when a decision comes my way, and I have to make a decision to approve my family or take the next job. But whatever it is. I just used the knowledge that I have at that time in the president to try to make the best decision at that time, and then I spend the rest of my time trying to make whatever decision I decided to make the best decision. And that's that's how I've gotten here. Okay. So this is this is the first time you ever fired, right? Yeah. Yeah. What, what, what I mean, it couldn't have been terribly enjoyable to go to work because like your one of your best players is hurt. And there's this kind of cloud looming. Right. And there's a lot of discussion of Nebraska basketball last year. And I thought the whole thing was weird to be honest outsider 'cause like Nebraska's in the big twelve when I was there, obviously, and they were notorious for being talented terrible on the road. Never wanted NCAA tournament game. And they they built incredible facilities. And I think that people think you sprinkle in some pixie dust and facilities. And you're just like all the sudden going to be at the top of the big ten like do you know how good the big? Would you do it? I'd give people have like fans have no excuse. My French fucking clue like the big ten like you're not the only one trying to be good like Illinois has Illinois. He's been good forever, and they haven't awesome coach, and they were at the bottom of the league like it's really, really hard 'cause all the coaches are good. All the teams are older than the other leagues. You know, and all the crowds are good. The arenas get like, yeah you got good facilities. Great. So does most everybody else in the league? And they have they have more players that, that grew up closer and fans of their program. Right. And that's the that's the key to recruiting. But what's, what is that feeling like for a guy who you know, look, it hasn't been easy? You know, you didn't come out in the NBA draft. You were in the USB L, you did get cut after one game playing overseas but you've never been fired before. What, what is that, like, Tim call you did? How does that work? Now. I wrote thirteen and four. Are thirteen and two thirteen four we ranked in the top twenty five and really kind of on, on the track to do everything that, that they expected, you know of the team that we had in Nebraska. And, and, and honestly, you know, Nebraska's number one NCAA tournament game, you know, that challenge of doing that excited me and but the expectation of this, you've seen was the Sweet Sixteen you know, and like that's what you talked about the fans that the best thing, the Brassica has going for it is the fans. They have unbelievably passionate fans that love the husker's. But when you have that you also sometimes get some, some expectations and, and things that can be somewhat unrealistic and, and the expectation for us was basically stip of skip a step in the process or two and just, you know wind up in the Sweet Sixteen and like you know, like you only been there and say tournament seven times tomorrow and taking you there one of those seven times, like let's just win a game and then we'll worry about you. What's, what's next? And so that, that's kind of what drove me as far as you know, the whole Nebraskan thing. And I thought we were set up to do that. And obviously, we had horrific injury with with is the Copland turn his ACO and, you know, things got loose, and we just weren't able to win, you know, down the stretch and in the conference. And so, you know, going through that whole deal. It's not a pleasant thing. But like you again, you've got to get outside yourself. You gotta quit Maureen about how this affects you and realize that, you know games form of going watching Roby like this is their one shot to be a college basketball player. You know, I got my opportunity. You got your opportunity. This is their one shot to be a college basketball player. Now I can be. He says the coach and I can quit work working because we're going to get fired at the end of the year. Okay. And I'm just completely be self absorbed, or I can I can put all my energy in trying to make me really what I talked about earlier trying to make their experience for them as good as it possibly. It can be. And so that's, that's kind of what got me to go to work every day, and that and continue to prepare and try to put them in the right positions at the right time. And that's that's how I I don't know if that's that way to approach it. That's all I want about it. We had a good staff that, that stuck together and, and just try to focus, our energy on those guys and trying to help him down the stretch, and we had a few more injuries come up and we got down about six dollars at the end and the last three weeks ago Shing those guys were probably as much as I've had in coaching. You know, we had we had three dude that could go get about buckets in miles was great mile just told him in the locker room. One day, and film les lists. You guys go go try to get sixty five and we'll figure it out with these other three and we're gonna see what we can do. And, and, you know, I think we run we ring off three or four consecutive wins. And, and hopefully you know, those guys can remember the end of their career for for accomplishing that. And kind of forget that middle part of. The season. But it would it was a it was a different deal. No, I mean no question. What if you were going to relinquish this nightmare? Tim out two miles getting a job, right? He's done a good job or who's been. If there was one thing about how Tim miles coaches that you will take with you that you will tell other people you should do this, or this is what makes him great. What is it the thing I respect about him? The most is how he got to power five conference in like, listen like he got fired whatever day it was. He was on a flight six AM the next morning interviewing for another power five jobs, like he's a good basketball coach. And I and I give him a lot of credit because like what I told him, I'm like I said, when you took over Nebraska, somebody with the reputation and stature of Fred Hoiberg wasn't going to be interested in Nebraska. And I said, what you've done in seven years and elevated the visibility of the program that, put that program, you know, headed in the right direction guy like Fred Hoiberg now wants that job. And, and what ultimately dot EU is what you should probably be most proud of is because you've set that job up and the position where somebody like, Fred. You know, wants to take over. I think it'd be great time to take over the program and the brassy. You've been unbelievable fan base facilities. Everything you've just got to get players to wanna be there. And hopefully they can achieve that. But I think the best thing that I think I respect the most about him, is how he's how he kinda started like he doesn't have like he didn't play division, one like you. And I you know he he didn't play for legendary coaches like you, and I like he you know, he was in a guy that, you know, wasn't good enough to play became a student assistant and just worked himself, all the way up to Nebraska. And I think that's a hell of a story for him because you don't you don't just wind up in the Brask. Oh, you know you don't wind up in the power five head job and just how he's gone about it to get to where he got. I think is an unbelievable story. So just, you know that little chip he has on his on his shoulder to kinda prove everybody wrong, you know, I think is one of his his greatest quality. So you're cleaning out your garage right at in, in Lincoln? But, like you're because you're moving or were you just your wife is like go clean the drunk. You're annoying me. When you spend the winter in Lincoln, Nebraska, like you, you drag snow and salt and all that stuff in your your garage. And when you're when you're unemployed, I was very fortunate and then the bresca, they had another year on my contract, so I didn't have to do anything I could go to kind of been a bum for, for twelve months, but or fourteen months, whatever it was gonna be. But he live in Lincoln, Nebraska, you when the spring comes and the weather breaks, you've got to get all that, that snow and winter junk out of your garage, otherwise you just continue to track it in your house. So when you're unemployed your, your wife's takes a day, and, and you and her just go to Raj, and you're gonna clean out the garage. So that's what I was doing. And I got a little beep on my phone and having to make from. So, okay. So you pick up the phone and did you have his number save? Like did it say Nick Cronin? Or is this like Cincinnati number is it an L A number game? What, what is it? It was. It was. I got Nixon number much, like I was when I was at eastern, Illinois, Doug. He was at Murray state he was the head coach Murray state. So we competed against each other a little bit there while as a Butler, we played Cincinnati. You know, and so we, we had a relationship where, you know, we've exchanged a few tax, you know, a year of cinema, you know, like the wine emoji or something after a big win say congrats to him or something. And I think he would watch our teams play, you know, late at night, different things. And if we wanna be game you know, I'd get a you know, a texture two year, congrats or you know, good luck or thinking of things like that we would see each other on the road. Recruiting always say, hi Chit chat a little bit. You know all that stuff goes, but. Yeah, it popped up Cronin. And it was just say just checking on you, you know. How are things going, and he did just recently got UCLA job? And, you know, so that's you know things are good. It's not as good as they're going for you. You know you just got gotten this job. But that's kind of how things things store and we just started talking from there. So. So you get to do you ever been to UCLA before you took the job. I driven by campus. I've been out here recruiting a few times. There's there was a, a big Adidas tournament out here. You know that I always come to and, and did it was in the old recruiting calendar. It was the end of the second week, you know, whether it was Redondo beach, or in Anaheim couple of different tournaments that I would come out here in recruitment. So I had been in the area few times, obviously, it doesn't matter where you grow up, you know of UCLA, you know, under basketball program, their history tradition the players like even know all that stuff. I don't care where you grow up so, but to get out here, and the, the feel it every day and to be around it every day. Obviously, I mean special is not an adjective, that's good enough to explain it. But, you know, I'm kind of, I'm a small town, Indiana guy respect, I love going to work, and he'd go Fieldhouse every. Because of of you know what that, that Jim stood for love playing in the city hall, you know, I like to I like the old stuff. I like you know, in and to be a part of this, this university and, and just thinking the guys that have been here and walk into the poly. Like, when you have you ever walked in that hallway leading out of downstairs off the court and in the locker rooms have you ever been in that hallway to? Yeah, the, the greatest hallway in college basketball, they call it. I mean that. That doesn't get you being like a guy like you. And I, I mean I, I don't know what does I mean it's obviously a special place in. I'm very very fortunate to, to be able to represent it in a very small way. Are you following your passion? I'm Carla Marie, the host of side, Hustler's I talked to people following their passion outside of their regular job. Everyone either has a side hustle, or wants to create a side hustle. Get inspired to start your own business, or just hear the story and hustle of every side hustler. Get motivated with side Hustler's. Listen and subscribe on the iheartradio app at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Have you found a good place to get a Coors light? Well, that's that's been the most difficult thing. Very like if you were to ask me, what is the most surprising thing about being here? UCLA has difficulty in finding good ice, cold Coors, light. You know you go to these different restaurants and everybody's got their own little beer, selection, and all the different breweries and different things. And I'm a pretty simple guys, you know, like I just need an ice, cool Coors, like, but I did I found a seven eleven got it. Got it got a twelve pack and put it in my hotel fridge. And so, I'll be okay, so I get settled, okay lacking. Let last things all of these experiences and look you still you want your first job, right? You want your first head coaching job. What, what, what is it gonna take for you to get the right opportunity? Well, you know, the older, I get, you know, I try not it's like looking back. I try not to look too far forward. I think when an opportunity presents itself, it's the right one for me. You know, I have kind of vision of what that's going to be were you, you have an opportunity to be successful. You know, things are in place to be successful. And, and that's, that's so much more to me than than just the basketball program, like, do you have, you know, is your, your president and the university administration, your athletic director and the, the ethnic administration and myself were, we walk in hand in hand in trying to achieve the same things. And then I think when you find that that's, that's when you can have the most except and I think that that is what? We're trying to get to right now here UCLA. I think it's a great opportunity to come. Be a part of it. But that's what I'm looking for in, in my first job. I don't I'm not too concerned about mammalian, mid major major like I just want to, you know, right now make UCLA is good as we cost we can make. And if we do that, then the next opportunity is gonna come my way, but I do have the vision of what I want what I wanted to look like I wanted to feel I've been very fortunate to be around, you know, we've talked a little bit about all of them. Some unbelievable coaches. I know what success feels like. I know the type of people that, that it takes to be around the program that to have that type of success. And, and so I realize how fortunate I've been and I hope to, to get that opportunity in the future. But when that comes it'll come you know, right now, I'm I'm trying to help these guys enjoy their experience at three thirty. We work out again. All right. I got I got two or three more your favorite high school gym in Indiana, is what? Memorial gymnasium huntingburg Indiana. It's, it's about seven miles south of Jasper. It's where our, our sexual tournament was, which was the first round of the state tournament when I was there. It's, it's kind of, like poly, where you're just see the roof and it goes down into the ground. It held about seven thousand people on on on turnament nights. And it was it was sold out with all the what, what, what town community huntingburg, Indiana. Huntingburg south real Rangers. Yeah. Small little towns about seven miles south adjust. So you're a favor. I could go back if I could go back and play one more game like if I could go back and like my knees don't hurt. Everything is an pain is back when you're eighteen years old like that's. I'm looking at pictures of it. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool. Hot in here. It'd be it'd be oh, so always, so hot in there with all the people, and Israel. Okay favorite favorite? Big ten arena. Awesome. Well when I was eat anymore. Softball swimming. No, I'm just okay so again, tell me something about about. I shared previously, my, my, my nightmare. We got blown it. We were down forty two fourteen at IU in January of February in November of ninety five Andrea Patterson through the him block a shot. He threw a shot of mine into the third row. I think he hit John Mellencamp, actually with the basketball. And that was on the beginning of sports is, are you ready for sportscenter? It's like no, that was shot that he just rejected. Tell me something about, you know, he told me about the, the greatest, what does it hallway in college basketball at UCLA? What's the coolest part about about assembly hall that only somebody who played their nose? I would like I liked going in there when it was when it was empty. Yeah. Oh, and, and like all the lights were not like just, you know, some floodlights that they would, you know how long like when, when you were able to get in there when you probably weren't supposed to, you know, that was that was my favorite time. You just kind of go in there and look around and have that feeling it was, it was interesting. We took our team that we wanted to this year from. In, and we, we went shot around the night before with a with some of our guys that went in the night before we did a shoot around on game day. But the night before we, we always have five or six guys wanna go gives them extra shots. And can you know, I agree Copeland was still healthy at the time, and he was shooting. And he's like he's like coach you can you can almost feel the history in here. You know. And now I'm coaching two different team there, you know. So I'm trying to combat that, like I mean I understood exactly what he was saying. But I'm like, dude, listen. Those five banners. They're not playing them all night. You know, those bands, they're not courting points you. I'm trying to get him out of that vote. But I knew exactly what he was what he was talking about is in feeling the history. And you feel that same thing when you're on this campus you walk into poly, like you look up. And you've got those Levin banners hanging up there and you got the jerseys. Those guys hanging up there like, but you feel you feel that history you feel that tradition. And that's what makes us places so special I got to share with you, Jason Collier story. So call your visit. Us at Notre Dame before going to you guys at that we thought we had a shot, and we had a guy named Gary bell was fellow freshman. And I remember our coaches called us in there. Like, hey look, we've got Jason Collier coming this week with a Jason Collier, and the and the baby twins came in same weekend. So like three best white guys in America coming in and, and. And so they call us in and you know, like as freshmen, you're going to be a host and pack year. He's a sophomore use a host. I look. Call your is a great dude. Great player. But he does not drink. He does not smoke and he doesn't like cursing very religious like all right? Well, fine. Tell every. It's all false information. By the way, also information. Okay. So, so, so we which I'm sure so, right. So we get. They come pick me up my dorm, and then we go roll, and we go down to Gary bells door, which is like two dorms down and literally opened the door. And he's got like a cigar in his mouth and forties in his arm. He's like, what's up fellas? This pre game you know. But I never forget that he said he's like we knew he was going to in the antics. He's like, man, coach night was amazing. Like my grandma loves him. He's so funny told, you know, like he people got them all wrong, which people do have him Kadam kind of all wrong. But he's like, you know, he doesn't curse all the time. That's like totally overdone, and we're like I did. Gimme your, your how good a host were you when you're at IU when you we had a host recruit had good were you? Well, I would like to think I was pretty good. We we got. We got a lot of the guys, I hosted, you know, now, the and story, he was he was an NBA draft pick, but, you know, he came to campus and, and, you know, like, hey, you know there's a party here there's a party here. You know, like what do you want to do? And he was just like I just I really want some steak and shake and just take me back in the hotel. So I'm like this guy's from small towns tendency, like we're there's no way we're getting this guy. So we went guy, Makoba cheeseburgers and took his hosts, money and went down to the party and, and how to help with your time. But then ended up coming in the NBA pretty good player, but I think some of those visits are overrated, you know, each each guys different like you see it in recruiting what they're looking for what their family looking for innocence. Got to be a fit. And, and I know it was to me when I walked on campus, like, you know, like the now some of the best host times, and we had, like all this dude had a blast. We get him didn't get. Did you get? But I do think I do think that some of it is also for like we used to Oklahoma state. We used to use it because we had a vote. Right. They were guys that we went to we went to the coaches like him. He's not one of us like now. No. Thanks. And like, really, like, no, we, we think this guy's awesome. Like, no, not at all. Yeah. And then we meet five on his visit he came in for football weekend. And we were supposed to take him the football game. And he didn't wanna go and he wanted to sit in my apartment, and he buffalo and watch Michigan play Michigan's football game on ABC. So when coach asses what'd you guys do yesterday? How football game like well we didn't go. But what you do. And I was like, well, we set my have buffet movies. We watch Michigan play. I don't know on whoever they were playing on TV and like coach night was all pissed off him. Yeah. Then we ended up getting, you know, but, like he didn't want to go. I don't blame you. We didn't go to games when I was playing my, you know, like you said, at home, we watch Michigan Notre Dame. Like that's what we did. You know. But that's that's what we got. He wanted to watch Michigan on his he wanted to wash Michigan play football. So that's what we did. And we ended up getting so. Actually amazing. I've had five five okay? Last thing, the best guy that you love seeing on the road k we have somebody we have not just that use like look. I've been a basketball coach for twenty years. This is a this is a great dude that people should know about. Well, I'll give you an assistant and I'll give you a head coach assistant. Like I met Luga Dino's now when she told stay he's, he's been a friend of mine since we were in college. And so I always enjoy it. And and, and talking with him just gonna catch enough from a friend thing as a coaching thing. Like I don't even know if ROY Williams knows my name, but he has been extremely gracious to me every time I've seen him and if he doesn't know my name. I would know it for more interaction, so sit down and he'll talk and, you know, we'll, we'll end up talking for two or three gangs, and, you know, I'll ask them about, you know, he's always got buddies with him and his golf trips, and he tells me all about it, and it kinda reminds you sitting down talking to your grandfather, you know, and just, you know all the good stories you had, and he'll get a great storyteller. And he starts telling all these great stories, and I just enjoy sitting there you know, listening to him. And unlike said I don't even know if he knows knows what my name is. But every time I've seen him, you know, and we're within a close vicinity we love we ended up talking. And I've always enjoyed those times it's pretty guy like me, it's pretty cool. For anybody. That's pretty cool. Anybody? It's pretty cool. He doesn't like me. He's, he's he doesn't like me. He used to really be nice to me, and he was super nice to my dad, and I always thought he's, he's like the world's greatest, dude. And he, he doesn't like me because the information he was given on what I sit on CBS was not terribly accurate. But whatever I said, I said, I said, you know, like look people wonder if this is back when he had his knees were bad. And he had the spins you gets that kind of, like once a year. And I was like, look people wonder if he wins Nash ginger, if he will retire like a legit discussion within the sport. And so it got kind of spun around to I said, ROY Williams gonna retire like, no it's not what I said. But whatever I do think I think he's amazing. He's inter interesting, dude, and probably the greatest head coach recruiter that there has ever been. Right. Like I think selves really good. But, you know, like Braeutigam's used to. He still does he comes. He sits down amid whoever somebody he wants. He comes in sits down midcourt. Everybody knows ROY Williams there. And he makes it a personal quest to get that one guy. And or, or whatever those guys are. And he has an unbelievable level of energy for recruiting still. And, and he does he does have his. He does roll deep like he's funny. He's got his posse of like who are those guys like those are ROY Williams, guys, like, oh, okay, yeah, there, there's boys and they're just inching that he's got to watch a game or two itching to get out to hit the golf course or the the closest casino. And and you know good for him. I think he's, he's earned that right to do that stuff. How what's a reasonable what's a reasonable expectation for UCLA over the first couple of years? You know, I think it's typical like I'm still learning or personnel. You know, I think when you first get in here with the rink open recruiting period, you're the you're really focused on the recruiting aspect. I think we have some talented kids on this team. I think that they will. If we can get them to. There's, there's this big misconception about MC in offense and defense. But if we can get these guys to defend the way that I believe that they're capable of based on their athleticism, and you couple it with their offense of abilities, then we're going to have an opportunity to have some success. Now if if we don't do that, like like scoring points. It was not a problem for this mascot balti-. You know, descending guys you know, was and so we've, we've got to get that mentality and that focus. They've gotta realize with all their abilities on one year, and if they can, if they can pick it up on the other, it can it can lead to win, and that's got to become important to them. You know the highlight play has got to become secondary winnings. Got to become number one, and, and everything that they want to achieve. We'll be right there form. And, and it's been a fun group to work with, like, I'm looking, I'm excited about three thirty today to get out with them for our second workout of the summer. I gotta. Out with them for about. Oh, about a week when I first got here with the quarter system finishing. So we're still kind of getting know each other. They're getting a better feel for mic. And what he's looking for you to in a lot of teaching and these guys have been very responded, very well. And obviously, they're trying to impress a new staff and and but I think it's a good group with some with a very high ceiling. There's just some some habits that that have gone awry, and, and we've got tightened some things up, but it's going to be fun to work with. And I think if, if we can, we can recruit the right side, the kids, that are about the right things. And you couple that with the level of talent that you can attract your and UCLA then we can do some special things. And that's what I'm looking forward to no question question taken up enough of your time best of luck finding actual watering holes with Coors, light. I will make my personal quest. I, I, I think the places you're looking to live. You have a better chance than than right around. The campus in in Westwood. In the meantime, thanks for hunt. When my family gets up here and then you're going to, like I made that trip down to your spot. Now when my family gets out here middle mid July. We'll have you have a barbecue traumas you. I will find some course already know what to bring. This is so easy. Like I hate bringing over, like a bottle of wine about that bad bottle of wine. I hope he threw that bottle of wine that place I had to stop at next year. House was the place to go and, and why did you what did you do that? Like it was very don't get me wrong. It was the first time I was going to meet your wife. It was the first time I was going to meet your wife and, and I was like I gotta show like I can't use me to do that. Just shows up right? So I don't know. I dunno. I thought being who I am. I'm pretty comfortable of my own skin. And I was I was trying to be nice and and, and get a bottle of wine and I'm sure it was, it was very nice, but it's, you know, it's like it's like that kiss on the cheek thing that people do like. Like you get into. I go to a party and people like come. Like we're not French. I don't do that. So I'm not going to do that because it's not who I am. And so maybe people think I'm an asshole, because I don't bring a bottle one, but I do like I will bring it. I'll bring you a twelve of Coors light, it'll be ice cold. I may have to put it in my yeti. So he comes out, and I would I will impress you in that way. And then you have to tell me if your wife like likes wine, then we'll, we'll bring wine. Hey, dude. No, no, no. No. No, no, no. She's good. She'll she'll. Scores light. She liked Bud Light. But she'll drink Coors, like she's like me if it's called Mike. Good. Now, I know we hold on all in Rennes down twelve or, and a six or bottles or cans, she don't tell she's into cans now. She's a bottle Bill. She's, she's kind of got an up an older age. She prefers bottles. Mike. Thanks for joining us. No problem. I appreciate it. The short to catch live. Additions of the Doug Gottlieb show, weekdays at noon eastern, three PM Pacific. I that was that was great. With Mike Lewis, let me give you this thought on, on the Houston Rockets. You know. The rockets. I understand how they've used analytics, and I am not one of these ostrich put your head in the sand going to deny the value of analytics in basketball or any sport. It's an important part of baseball. It's an important part of football. It's an important part of basketball. But the perfect example of how the rockets spent too much time with analytics and not enough time, building a team and now they're trying to figure out how to fix what ails them and they may end up making more of a problem. Look at two years ago when they won when they lost in game seven should be pointed out that is Andrea dollars reminding us he didn't play in that game. He's a huge part of the war. So the rockets saying, well, we didn't have Chris Paul, the words didn't have hundreds of dollars not as good a players, Chris Paul. But he is almost as important to what the warriors are able to do. But the point is instead of maybe exploiting, that mismatch as they had done previously in the series. They became overly reliant on the three point shot and miss twenty seven in a row on paper, you shouldn't miss in Italy's. You shouldn't miss twenty seven in a row. Right. That there isn't there isn't that kind of stretch? Because after you had the same percentage chance of missing one as do the next one do the next one is you do the next one. That's how statistics work. It's dot. You know, this whole water finds its level. If you're, you know, you know, like, like, if you're a forty percents shooter, your forty percent shoot on every shot that you take it doesn't believe in hot streaks doesn't believe it. Does believe it hot spots, but not as much hot streaks? It's the districts and I think it has value. But the perfect example of why the rockets are in the mess that they're in being good. But not able to be great. And when a title is on paper, Chris Paul, and James harden, work together, when they're both in the lineup they're incredibly efficient offensively. They're good basketball teams. But Chris Paul like the rest of us. He's watching James harden, dribble, the ball to death and James harden. Like the rest of us is like men. Chris Paul on assumes old. Right. And so they struggled to get along with each other. You can't see that in statistical data because analytically speaking, the team is far better with both them out in the court than the are with either of them off the floor. So now they're gonna add, Jimmy Butler his team in four years. That's paying only attention to we can be more efficient. We can be better instead of paying attention to how does the team actually feel and how they get along. Good luck with that. Last thing is this. We're going to have more coaches on and basketball people on throughout the offseason. I do think Kansas would be my preseason number one. And I love the idea that the NCAA is going to continue to try and get back to the cutting down on the waivers. It doesn't mean that. I don't think that some kids transfer home for the right reasons because you have a local or grandpa, mom or dad, but just enough people have lied about it and have gained the system where we don't believe anybody anymore. That's really kind of what it is. Right. It's the same reason you take off your shoes at a when you go through the airport. Screener, there's one guy who tried to blow up the world with his shoes, we all day or shoes, like ten years later, more than ten years later. Sorry, one guy kinda ruined it for the rest of us. That's the way it works. And the reality is that if you're going to transfer a home, even for the reasons that, you know, you gotta Grandpa's like you can take a year off and help that person get healthier, spend time with them while they're sick. Speaking of being sick arrest in peace to Tony Baroni Cray, basketball coach, awesome guy, and he was a coach taxation when I first got to Oklahoma state, and I will never forget the last line. I heard him say as head coach tech say him he had been fired. It was one thousand nine hundred eighty eight in March, and we were at the Hereford house in Kansas City, where we always ate the night before the big twelve tournament, and he comes walking in and his maroon sweat's just with his assistant coaches, Eddie Sutton says Doni where's your team until he says those fucking guys? They'll let them at McDonalds I got my ass fired. How you doing coach? I coach only Benjamin at Creighton, which should earn him automatic entrance into the gates of heaven. Saint Peter got himself at angel will give them. Some wings tone is a good dude. And then his son, just got the head coaching job at southern Illinois, Edwardsville, I believe I think Brian will do an excellent job rest in peace to the great Tony. I'm Doug Gottlieb in. This is all. This week on ephemeral. You do the math. I think they're two million plus breadth of our work in the collection. I don't even think the brain can hold them any emphasis Steph to comprehend it. 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Hour 1 - Chris Mannix (05-13-20)

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Hour 1 - Chris Mannix (05-13-20)

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Three hundred and sixty two radio affiliates around the country with the law in sports. The media's hitting US up with new list every day and you know I love a good list. These are usually reserved for late July. When everybody's on vacation and you're just trying to fill up some space but with nothing going on everybody's ranking players teams uniforms anything that can be ranked is being ranked. I'm not a fan of the list. Because they're so subjective. Actually they drive me crazy. No list is ever changed anybody's mind on anything. Just hasn't you too often end up denigrating a great players career unnecessarily because you'll say well such-and-such shouldn't be ranked that high or he should be in there instead of that. Guy. Espn's getting a lot of attention. They have their list of the seventy four greatest players in NBA history. This being the seventy fourth year of the NBA. I'm not sure how they rank the players. I don't know what the criteria was. How do you rank the Greek freak and Lebron against who have been retired for decades? The different eras the different rules the different styles. There's nothing going on now. I realized that so I be grudgingly. Open the show with this list and I am fortunate. I've said this before. Probably you're nauseous from hearing it so often. I got to see everybody play. I got to see everybody but Bill Russell everybody else. I was able to see in Person Will Chamberlain Soliman Person Oscar Robertson. Saw Him in person. I and that's where it's difficult I don't know people will say we'll add Oscar. Robertson averaged a triple double. That's all people know about Oscar Robertson. If he didn't average a triple double people wouldn't mention him in the top ten now. Oscar had the numbers. Oscar was a dominating force. People don't know anything other than how many people saw Oscar play with the royals not many because I went to the Games and no one was there. I was there when they had bob. Cousy he goes to Milwaukee any place with Laos Indoor. And and you know Luau. Indoor Corinne was so dominant back then. They won the NBA title. That's the only title that Oscar has but we look at Oscar and not to just single him out. It's just we're not quite sure what to make of these guys who played in a different time. A different era different style will chamberlain is the most dominating player of all time. Oh but he didn't win. If will head six titles would will be the greatest player of all time. He led the League in assists rebound scoring field. Goal percentage. Whatever you said You you. You can't win championships. Then maybe he would have done it because individually. He did everything. Oh you're just a score. He said all right. I'll be a defensive player. I'm GONNA lead daily. This when the Lakers were so great when they one thirty three in a row he was a defense minded player and a rebounder. That's what he did. He wanted to prove I. Don't I can score fifty. I don't have to score fifty Jerry West who I dearly love. Jerry could play in today's game so when you're trying to out and I know it's supposed to be for entertainment purposes. I unfortunately take it personally because I think when people vote on these they go. Yeah Dirk Nowitzki. Yeah he's better than Bob Okay. I don't even know how to argue that. I'll tell you who got shortchanged on this list is Isaiah Thomas like it's open season on Isaiah Thomas. You may not like him not an easy gotta like and there's a lot that goes along. Isaiah Thomas Isaiah. Thomas is one of the top twenty players of all time. All right he just he is. You may not like it. You may say Steve. Nash was better or John Stockton. He was he wanted Indiana and he went in with the bad boys and they were dominating force their Isaiah. Thomas is under. I think he's like thirty first. Best player according to these rankings. Thirty seconds something like that. Okay you know. The top got shocked at number ten. Tim Duncan eight Larry. Bird seven will to six magic is five Corinne. Three Lebron to and Michael is number one on the list you you start ranking these players in always gets back to that guy is not as good as that guy. We don't celebrate this. It's rare when we do what you do is eventually denigrated player and his career. Tim Duncan was a wonderful player. If Tim Duncan doesn't have is what five titles is. Tim Duncan in there. That winning is the Great Elixir. That's the great band aid man. When you win you know Jerry. West won one title. We don't give him credit. For what nine appearances in an NBA finals could win the Big One? Oh Mr Clutch couldn't win the bigwigs. Okay I mean. I can't argue with it. He didn't he couldn't beat the Boston. Celtics all right you could no one else did but you know we hold that against him. How many championships do you have because Bill Russell is the greatest team winner? He's not the greatest player bill. Russell wasn't a great player. He was a great team player. He was wonderful defensive player wonderful rebounder. He was athletic and he understood the game and he did what they needed him to do. Buddy won a one eleven. He won eleven greatest player of all time. Isn't he Michael One six? Yeah but Michael was He did it with flair. Zehr Julia Bill. Russell played with the hall of Famers in the Celtics to Oak. Wait I don't know. What are the rules here? He won eleven titles won an Olympic medal. He won in College National Championship in San Francisco. What makes you the greatest of all time? And who's voting on this and did that's where somebody should say. These are the people. These are the players that I saw. That's all just like just give me perspective on it and I'm not saying I should be involved in these lists but you should have guys like Bob Ryan or Jack mccollum or new guys who were around the League for a long time. Peter Vesey those are the guys who saul everybody and maybe you can make this. You have to make a generational to be fair to the player because of I look at Wilton Bill Russell and I could put Bellamy or whoever else big men you WanNa put in their Bob Lanier and then I'm going to move it into the new generation where it was lew alcindor when he came. We had not seen anything. Like Louis Indoor. When he came in and to me he he could play now. He could've played in the fifties. I mean his game translated but I just want to know how many players you got to see to be fair and look I think Bill Walton is overrated is an NBA player. He's one of my favorite people. He he got injured. I mean He. He was wonderful that one year year and a half with Portland. If Grant Hill doesn't get hurt grant hill might be top fifteen player. And you're trying to go pete marriage you know. I Love Pete. Marriage Pete wasn't a great. Nba Player he he. He was a wonderful score and he had flair. He didn't win a thing. Walton one one with the Blazers and then was a sixth man with birds. Team in what eighty-six okay like is Kevin Mikhail great because he won championships is Robert Parish. Great because he won championships or is somebody not great because they didn't win championships drives me crazy. But Hey it's a slow time here so allowed me to chew up ten minutes there. Yes paulie I scroll through the list and when I these lists if I have to stop and think about it that's I I know of reacted or something. Jaanus Adecco is the twenty seventh ranked. Nba Player of all time. He's had three great Susan's not not eight or nine or ten. But he he is currently top three hundred and not be in the top fifty the head of guys like John. Stockton who had fifteen all star seasons or Alan Iverson or Isaiah Thomas and John Havilcek. There has to be something for longevity. Stockton ahead of Isaiah. Thomas yes is Steve Nash. Head of Isaiah thirty and thirty one. He is just ahead of time. That's wrong Steve. Nash had a run though for about seven years where he was awesome spectacular. Absolutely love watching. It didn't win anything. Isaiah least one I got I can I do. I factor in winning with some guys and not winning with other guys. I don't understand that people don't like Isaiah I get it. It hasn't helped with recency bias with you. Know the last dance and Jordan's reaction is at Thomas and then everybody's coming out of the woodwork. And saying they didn't like Isaiah Thomas I get it. I'm not a fan of Isaiah Thomas but the basketball player. I can't argue that. He was great Steve. Nash loved watching him. Steve Nash Not Better Basketball Player than Isaiah. Thomas and this is where it gets back to we denigrate players. Now yes bond. Here's a couple more. Bill Russell's considered the fourth basketball player of all time. Knew this was gonNA happen. Seton the bar I did. I think I think growled. I'm deal with this all morning. I've been pacing back and forth before the show. You see this list. I'm on my own meal. Okay Bill Russell is the fourth ranked NBA player of all time. That's based off winning right. Yes complete not completely heavily. Russell didn't have great numbers he was. He was a a decent score and a great rebounder unbelievable defensive presence but do I consider him the top five. No I don't and he won. He was a winner. Why is it nobody else on? The Celtics won all those titles are included in top ten players of all time top fifteen players of all time. I mean Casey Jones Sam Jones satch Sanders Havilcek. Are they included in there? And the answer is no bill. Russell was a wonderful player and the ultimate team player in the team winner. He's not a top five playable time. Yeah polling I have another one that thinks gonNA bother you real specific in the number two spot. All-time is Lebron James. He's obviously top ten east but number three is Kareem abdul-jabbar. Who would you prefer to have in their prime you? So would I rather have Lebron Kareem in their prime as your first pick on your team? Just start your franchise. Because I know your answer well I would take Kareem. I just think Corinne if you saw him there was what am I doing the gotten? Espn got me again. They had the stupid college basketball poll. The title of it. It was just. It was not on that list that need to be upset about I breeze through it because I I swore I was not going to do it because Paulie goes eight top seventy four list of what. Spn NBA player go. No no no can't now. You should look at it why you may not like some things. Yes seton this the unofficial name of this list was fifty. Lakers and twenty four. There's a few Lakers in there yeah. I'm surprised that other their other franchises in the NBA. Kevin Durant is ahead of Jerry. West does that. Bobby I look at your face. No let me wait till one I. I'm okay with that. I think durant is one of the great players of all time. And maybe let's see how he comes back from the injury but he could be a top fifteen player of all time. I I'm okay with that. And he's made himself better. He's not one dimensional. Who Else is in there? Is Russell Westbrook ahead Jerry West? Where's Chris Paul in there he is? He's a little higher than I think he's fortieth ranked NBA player of all time. Okay never won anything once again. I don't know if that factors in does that mean anything because we love to lead with that man. He was a winner. Chris Paul is ahead of Rick. Perry Chris. Paul is not a better player. Rick Perry Rick Berry singlehandedly won an NBA title look at the of teams. That have won a title. Look at the Golden State Warriors when Rick Barry won that title with him because they had Clifford Ray and Derrek dickey. They had a couple of good guards but that wasn't a great team at all. L. Adults the head coach. That's seventy four seventy five. I think they swept the bullets. Yeah you're right Rick Barry Butch Beard Clifford Ray. Jamaal Wilkes Silk Folks. It was a good player. That's right yeah. Yeah mclovin one. That got a lot of attention doctor. Jay was fifteen with people. Thought I was too high. I'm not sure obviously biased. But is that of early? Dr J. With a little better than late Dr Bags if you're factoring in his. Aba career absolutely like doctor. J. was we had never seen Jordan. Some of US had seen doctor Jay and watching him in a game against the Kentucky. Colonels in the Kentucky colonels were great. That was a Dan. Isel lead team. They had a wonderful team. Artis Gilmore Louie dampier in. Dr Jay. Was He's there was one guy was playing a different game than everybody else and that was dock. He wasn't as polished as today. Stars are no mid range jumper and all those things but he he was a phenomenon. He was a force a tour to force what they would say. Yes seton O'Connor I was wondering where Zion was on the list. Checking could you check where The ball brothers are is lamello on there yet. Lonzo is just for his Laker career because he was a Laker. Yeah I'll just say they Zion at nineteen a little a little low. Oh trae young. On there he's not Reggie Miller forty-nine reg was a great player at Miller is ahead of James Worthy. That's a chip beginning. James I I know man I love James James Worthy. If you look at his stats. He he wasn't the focal point. He you know. He shared the ball out he was. He was consistent boy when he was out on the break though. Thunder unstoppable out on the break getting anywhere. Stop at him. Yeah I see. I don't want to get back to this where I start criticizing or saying this guy's better than this guy pains me to say Bill Russell was not. He's not a top ten player. Now if you say his career and his accomplishments okay but I if you said Hey. These are the players that are available for an open draft. Bill Russell is probably not going to be one of the guys you take and he couldn't in today's game bill. Russell wouldn't be the same now. Would he change what you've all. Yes he would. These Kareem wouldn't have to change. Korean would be still unstoppable. He would even added of a little bit more to his jumper stretch. It out a little bit. He'd still be dominating but would will be the same player he wouldn't but he would evolve. He would be somebody different. He didn't have a good shot. He was just seven feet to seventy five and he dominated people game was different back. Where Steph Curry on? This list is way high top twenty check on all right by the way this program brought to you by Legalzoom. They make it easy to set up the right estate. Plan that leaving your home. Take care of your family today. The Right Estate Planning Legalzoom DOT COM. Chris Mannix will join US coming up. We'll talk about the NBA mean. They're doing their best. Chipping away at trying to come back. Semantics Jones coming up a little bit Mike Gravel. The Tennessee Titans head coach will join us as well. Yes bowling. If you guys don't know where would you guess that Steph Curry is right? Now on the top seventy four players of all time just throughout where you'd think he'd be what number what spot. I'm going to say thirty one. I was going to go initially thought. Nineteen I'll I'll stay with nineteen steph curry's thirteen. He's ahead of Dr J. Jerry West. Carl Malone Dirk Nowitzki but he won. See that's the key of Scottie. Pippen if if he doesn't win then he's just a you know that he's he's fun to watch. Yes you not only. Did He win though? But he's one of those few game changers. The was different before he entered the league. And it's it's different after you know. Well he has changed the game. I mean how many guys in the history of the sport changed the game. But you can say that about stuff. Kerr history will be very kind to steph curry and they should yes mclovin and I'm a little worried that you're getting too worked up over this topic so I thought maybe we'd go in a different direction yesterday. Social Media Debate Greatest American Rock Band Don British. So you don't get worked up over that just calm you down. Don't do this to me. I'm very fragile right now. The College Basketball Raggi was over the we have the twelfth grade. Sportscaster hair rankings. I know I know that that's where I forget who asked me that. Might have been Keith. Olbermann he goes. Hey what do you think of the ESPN sportscenter anchor? Rankings I go. I know what you're talking about. Because and he was like put question mark there i. I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't see the rankings. For sportscenter anchors recently somebody said. Oh you lost. His Scott Van Pelt could good for Scott. I don't I don't care the older I get the better I was. I'm fine right now. There's GonNa be some guy who's just like you know what I was. I was there to see both of them. I saw I saw Scott. Yeah Overman I saw them all. Do Live television. You weren't there. Yep and that's what you need to have somebody somebody from the big lead. Who's like twenty four? Who's going to say you know Adnan Virk? He's going to get my vote. They're right off case. Scott Randy Scott is GONNA get with. Hey you know what I saw. He turned to fraser to game was different and he a game changer. The honest of the sports center was a whole lot different back. Then let's take a break. We'll come up with a go. No I gotta I'M GONNA. I'm GONNA hit the Stop Sign. I'm going to apply. There's a stop sign. I'M GONNA I'm not gonNA eat through the Stop Sign Chris. Mannix will join us. And then we'll we'll actually talk about something that is real in that is the NBA players. Trying to get back. And what is this timeframe? And does he think if they do play? 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I'm not really that big on these lists thing they put out but you just said something in the last segment that I just felt compelled to talk to. I grew up in Phoenix. I was fourteen years old when the sons were born and an expansion team. And I've lived as you well now. I pretty frustrating life as Lifelong Phoenix Suns Fan. And when you said I should be ahead of Steve Dash simply because he hasn't won anything. I just took exception to that. Because I think you're a little too smart for that John. John here's the thing I don't know. What the criteria was is it. Winning is statistics Steve. Nash was a wonderful player but we seemed value winning on this list. But then Isaiah did win but then you have John Stockton and Steve. Nash ranked ahead of him. That's all I. I don't know what it what we're basing this off of. If you said I could have Steve Nash and you have is air or the other way around. It's fine John Stockton. Okay I just I think is as getting punished here because this is recency bias of what happened in the last dance. The Jordan documentary. That's all John. Thank you for the kind words that you had to say there this list looking at the entire list greatest seventy four grades players of all time by ESPN. What if I just said this is regular season so so winning didn't matter it's playing ability just playing ability. Does that change things. Because Bill Russell's not in the top five not in the top ten not in the top twenty might not even be on the list but with the championships that changes the fact that that Russel Westbrook junior the third is ranked higher than Rick. Barry is embarrassing. It is rick very could score with anybody. He won a title with one of the worst teams that ever went to the finals in one. Now I'm getting fired up here. Let me bring in the Chris Mannix. This will come me down. Mannix our Hey Dan. Have you looked at this list? You care about this list not But listening to what you're saying Sure I'll disagree because but I mean look no disrespect to the Russel's and you know the Rick. Barry's at guys that played in that era and you could certainly argue that. If they were if they benefit from the training of today's game they'd be different and more players. But you didn't tell me that Rick Barry had any shot at doing anything with Russell Westbrook like no way like Russell. Westbrook would eat him alive in any competition. Possible we're not playing one on one here are talking about if that was the I mean. Kareem would win this because he would back everybody down and score over them. I. It's not one on one. I just beat that too. I mean like okay. Like Kareem ways a winning one on one but that that's the I agree with your sentiments. Okay but like do you remember. Russell Westbrook did that first. Mvp THAT MVP. You're like that team was bad. And you know Russell Westbrook went out. Propelled THEM TO LIKE FORTY. Three four wins after losing you know arguably the best player in the game certainly. WanNa cop thirty in Kevin Durant I mean. That's a pretty impressive team accomplishment then to have limited look at the Golden State Warriors when they won the NBA title. Chris if we're going to make this about Rick Barry and Russell Westbrook Russell. Westbrook hasn't accomplished anything other than a average. A triple double. Okay Great. He did it a couple times. Great if that's the case James Harden's one of the top fifteen players I- durant belongs up there Russell. Westbrook is a phenomenon but he's working great players of all time that he's better than Rick. Barry's silly silly. You're thinking like you plopped Russell. Westbrook Rick Perry teams. They'd be worse. I we're arguing. One against one here is is Russell Westbrook one of the greatest athletes to ever play the game. Yes he is. I'll give you. That is one of the greatest basketball players. I guess he's not better than Rick Perry. This doesn't have anything to do with all of that physical specimen. I'm sure he's alright better than John. Havilcek your beloved Boston Celtics there. Who would you rather have Russell Westbrook? John Havilcek just depends on what you're known their careers their career. Here's John Havlicek tippy. And it's all my arguments is based on championships. And by the way John Havlicek pretty good selection of teammates yet around him for most of his career like that. That was a great team that he was a part of Morales Westbrook had James Harden and Kevin Durant and. They didn't want to stay in Oklahoma City. I mean we can split hairs on like the heart like heart. I mean you really want to go back to harden like of course he at the time he wanted to stay he wanted to get paid and privately Oklahoma City officials will tell you that was the biggest mistake that they made not maxing out James Harden and going into luxury tax That year they offer them. That was a catalyst that nothing to deny. We're we're getting off track here. Because I want to underscore real quick like accomplishments. There was a time. When averaging the triple double was like Joe Dimaggio hitting streak like time. Nobody was going to do with Oscar. Robertson did and then Russell Westbrook comes along and does it sometimes like that. That's that's an incredible accomplishment. He's the most ball dominant player of all time now him him and harden the most bald. Are you trying to tell me if Magic Leonard? Average a triple double if bird wanted average a triple double like today's player is about stats. It's about look what they didn't magic and bird didn't give a damn averaging a triple double d really think Larry Bird went a system. I need for a triple double come on thank. You don't think you're Dan Across. Lebron's mind average triple double you don't think he's leading the League in assists as the game. Stop over ten per game. No no I think it's I think it's leading the league in assists important form absolutely but are you trying to tell me. Lebron couldn't average a triple double single year. He hasn't you'RE GONNA. He hasn't tried like you don't think is mind ever come on. Let's get real like of course like Lebron macron's the guy that's been sweeping not winning. Mvp's over the year. I've talked to Laker teammates. I wrote a story about a month ago where I've asked them 'cause the MVP Lebron air to a man they all say this to accomplishments and accolades matter to well. Yeah they do course you want to win an MVP. I can understand that at his age. Yes absolutely understand that. That's no big secret. Why why why yelling there that you're going to sit down and look. I Agree Russell. Westbrook is ball garment but like he did spend most of his career playing with Kevin Durant. And that's another ball dominant player. So like it's not like he hit that one year or a couple of years where he had to literally everything but beyond that he did have after sear responsibility with top level players including this past one. Just look at what Rick. Perry did when he won the title. Look at it look at his scoring days that he had when he was in the NBA and the NBA. He was one of the great passers of all time. The Russell Westbrook can't pass Aberfan bowl dominant player. He's I agree with the top three of all time. Look at the numbers ball dominant. You GotTa do stuff with where Does Koby rank on that list of ball dominant players Michael on that list of all dominant players? How how many you're not like Russell. Westbrook not migrate not like Westbrook. But let's not pretend is Grand Canyon size gap between these players dominance. You'd rather have Kobe over Russell. Westbrook you rather have Mike Over Russell. Westbrook I mean come on. I don't want this to be about Russell was married. But I'm just saying he won. He Won. Okay didn't Bill Wennington got three championships scrape like I mean really really. That's show on back. You're better than that. Just say I like. I'm just can't berries better the West because he won having put Russell Westbrook teams that Rick Barry Hat Rick. Barry is a better a better player in my opinion. That's that's just my opinion you see. I've seen the guys on the list name. I didn't see Mike and play and I didn't see Bill Russell play. I've seen them all and I can make an educated assessment of what I see. What their games rick? Barry was a spectacular. I'll leave it at that. Sorry if I hurt your feelings with Russell. Westbrook the third who is going to win title. I'm sure what the rockets this year by the way does the team that wins the title this year. Get an Asterisk by their name. Not If there are not at the playoff format stays the same And that was a take away from the Friday call with the players that the NBA a wanted to have a best of seven beginning with round. One I understand. It'll be at a neutral location. I understand it'll be different but if you maintain the integrity of the playoff length. No there's no no more than they were being asterisk in the ninety nine two thousand season radio work stoppages. Yeah I I think. The season has the ASTERISK. The teams shouldn't be saddled with an Astros. It's a level playing field for everybody here like it or not and I agree. Hey we agreed on something there now. The likelihood of basketball returning with what happened with the commissioner with this phone call was there an informal poll. That was taken about coming back. So give us some details here on. What's true and what's not I mean. Look everything's true that you mentioned there have been player. Representatives that have been informally bowling players via text message to ask them if they wanted to continue with the season now. I talked to several players about this. Who Basically said it's not as simple as yes or no I mean. There's there's variables here. There's you know. What do you do with a positive test? What does the season look like? Where are we playing like? If you're in a fundamental way yes everybody wants to finish the season like for for no other reason. They want to get paid like the the biggest part of all this but he was a Stein's poll the put out without having all the variables accounted for. I would suggest that the other interesting piece of news. I don't think getting enough attention is that the NBA in select cities. He's allowing for a symptomatic testing and and that to me is significant. Moving of the goalposts. On where the NBA initially? What they were telling me privately and other people privately was where they they thought they needed to be in order to start the season like they thought they initially. It was like we have to have. That's just why don't we about asymmetric testing for whoever wants you could walk into? Cvs and get tested symptomatic not. We're clearly not there yet but for the NBA. To tell I think for Landau when the to our teams. I'm sure it's GonNa be many more in the days to come but for them to say. Hey symptomatic testing is right now in this current climate. That tells me that they're changing that criteria for for what it needs to be when they come back. I'm also wondering. How far can they go into the calendar year? Here Chris. With. How long do they stretch it out before it affects next season going? It's another good point because that's another. Probably the one AAC way I had in the last four or five days from he's calls and and And information that's coming out it's abundantly clear that the NBA and their owners. Don't give a damn but when they start next season and if that's the case you can keep kicking the can down the road. I mean there was a report and and I haven't talked to integrate this morning about it. You got about three or four weeks. They'll make decision. That's the ultimate artificial deadline. I mean if it took four weeks. They're not ready to make a decision if they don't care when next season starts and for obvious reasons. Kraus's whatever they really don't they can say well we're GONNA push the mid July and August. I have some players that firmly believe that they'll win to meet the late October with the season if they have to get it done so with that knowledge in hand. That's what makes me you know even stronger today. Good last week that you'll find a way to finish the season. I didn't even get to the Jordan documentary. We wasted all this time on the greatness of Rick Barry Greatness of Russell Westbrook you know what I know. You're not doing anything. You're quarantined. Probably in Vermont wanted to do some research on Rick Perry and then you come back with a book pass. Okay I apologize not being chronologically old enough to have seen Rick Barry. Play like that. You know what? Why don't you be older Chris? Good to talk to you all right. Dan Thank you Chris. Mannix we're Tila straighted senior writer. See this is what happened. We woke up for that. Oh no he's he's woke. Now that's for sure we end up you know denigrating people. That's what happens with these list guys better than this. It did sound like the get off your lawn guy with Rick Perry. I just I saw Rick. Perry play and that team won a title. I don't how much does that matter won title. Is there a chance again? I did not see Rick Barry. Play except for highlights that Rick Perry and Russell Westbrook were similar players at their peak where they were doing it all themselves and they really didn't have a lot of help and one got a title one didn't but otherwise they had similar careers a little bit. Russ can't can't shoot. He did score thirty one point two game though yeah but he can't shoot in today's NBA. You can shoot as much as you want. You have the ball. The whole look at Rick. Perry was a wonderful wonderful shooter. One of the great free throw shooters of all time. A great passer there. Let me take a break here. I need I need. I needed time out here. We'll take a break play the days next. Thanks for listening to the Dan. Patrick Show podcast sure to catch. Us Live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox sports radio and you can find us on the iheartradio APP at FSR or stream. It live every day at Youtube dot com slash. The Dan Patrick. Show you own or rent your home. 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The team rocket mortgage is with you visit rocketmortgage DOT COM. Dan to learn more call for cost for Mason conditions. Equal housing lender licensed in all fifty states and MLS consumeraccess dot org number. Three zero three zero. I know what's going to happen. I'm going to hear from people saying I can't believe what you about such and such. I'm guilty of it I am. I hate it but I'm guilty of it Gary in Las Vegas Gary. What do you have for me today? I think I'm supposed to say five. Seven one hundred and thirty five. Okay I could say six six to forty but it is my thirty five. Okay listen here. I've a long time listener. I I really love your show. It helps get through the especially these last couple of Buds Gary. Give me the bud brother. Bill Russell is not a top ten player. Let me just say this. Have you ever seen the videotape of Russell? Grabbing a rebound full speed dribbling. The ball up the court and literally leaping over a front court defender leaping over him and dropping the ball in the basket. The Dude won eleven championships on great teams. He won two championships in college. Read our back certainly understood. He was the heart soul glue and great absolutely. I'm gary I understand it. He was you can say had the greatest career he's not. He's not a top ten player. He's just not in. Thank you for the phone call. Thank you for your honesty with your height and weight. Bill Russell was a limited offensive player. He was brilliant. Defensively understood the team concept as well as anybody. And that's why he's on these lists. He won every place he went. It wasn't a coincidence. He understood the game. He had a great coach and he had great players around him to at one point. I think he had eight hall of famers on the roster guys didn't even start became hall of famers. I you get into this and then all of a sudden. I'M CRITICIZING BILL. Russell like who am I to criticise Bill Russell other than just assessing the talents that he had if I took away what you did in the postseason made this just about the regular season. What would this list? Look like the postseason. Dominique Wilkins never won anything. If I make this the regular season does that change anything. It just talent. You know Chris. Mannix was trying to Russell Westbrook's talent. He's probably one of the most top ten. Most athletic players have ever seen love watching imply he says not. Rick Perry all right. Mike vrabel Titan said coach will join us coming up more phone calls on this as well one hour in the books to warn ago. Dan Patrick Show renowned Buddhist teacher. Jarvis Masters has steadfastly maintained his innocence since he was sentenced to death almost thirty years ago on a new podcast. Dear Governor Jarvis poses the question there have to be there by the execution. 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But just as big or almost as big as Rick Perry. This is our one hundred episode of the full forty eight mom, we made it one hundred episodes. I can't believe it we launched this thing nearly two years ago with Jordan Brenner, as my co host had no idea where this thing might go from there. What are format would be how it would evolve? We just kind of, you know, hit record and started and said, let's let's see where it goes. They're still letting me do this nearly two years later. So thank you Bleacher report for that. It's been a blast. Our first guest, of course on this podcast. Adam silver, the Commissioner of the NBA. We had him back in December. And I want thank just all the guests. We've had I'm not going to name them all, but this podcast would not be fun without them there. What makes this thing really go? Steve Kerr Ray, Allen, Jeanie Buss Grant Hill. Daryl Maury, Chris Bosh, Danny green and his canter, Richard Jefferson. And a lot of the entertainers who have come onto kinda mix it up and talk NBA with us, Brian Koppelman, the creator billions has been on Kelly out coined plays dollar Bill and billions Adam derives from the Counting Crows big things, of course, to Wes Wilcox David Griffin who have been kind of part of the steady rotation bringing their front office insights, and I think making the at times they very educational podcast for for me as well. As for you, the listener, and as us, thanks does that low I feel like to an extent, I'm the spin off of the low post because so many of you guys have told me over the last couple of years that you heard me I on Zack's podcast. And then that that kind of. You gave you the intro to to to listen to me on my own. Really? Appreciate that. Like, I say I feel like a spin off. I'm like, the Laverne and Shirley to his happy days. Okay. There's I'm dating myself again that's tool of a reference. Could I be the Frazier to his cheers? Okay. 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Well, if I was doing any better I'd be making a comeback in the NBA. But yeah, it's hard to believe that my birthday's coming up, and then I'm going to be three quarters of a century old. It's just the staunching to me. I don't feel any differently than I felt when I was in my late forties. Just can't run faster jump as high. But God's blessed me, and I'm very fortunate individual sports science being what it is. Maybe I almost feel like guys go most could come back at this point. But we're not quite there yet. I guess I'd have to get the magic genie or got it after down and pull a miracle. I guess it would be fun to have an opportunity to get those three zero day forgotten my contract when I on the end of it. On the things that you could do with that. I've always thought about it. I can't really relate to be honest with you this. I mean, so insane to think if I was thirty years old at I'd have a two hundred million dollar guaranteed contract for five years and make forty million dollars a year, it's kind of mind numbing. But what I'm happy about is that so many of those guys that are doing that are actually doing some wonderful things, you know, most of these guys are starting up foundations they're doing things to help out where they came from and doing some things for those less fortunate, and that's that's very rewarding to see that. Yeah. It's almost a staple. Now, it's it's it's almost a given that especially if you reach a certain echelon in this league, you're like the foundations almost automatic at this point guys, they set out from day one knowing that this is going to be part of the career part of the expectations are part of their their sense of responsibility. While I hope I hope all of them would do it. I mean, they all should do it be honest with you. I mean, they have enough money to lead one hundred lifetime. So why not do something and help other people? Who are less fortunate, and it's a very rewarding thing I've always been a better giver than a receiver. And and you don't need to get recognition for you. Just do it because it's the right thing to do. It's among the many things that's obviously striking contrast between during your playing days. And now the celebrity aspect of it is huge. I mean, we're we're recording this in Charlotte at all star weekend. And of course, the whole town is just packed to the brim with people, and these guys are they're celebrities like actors and musicians and anybody else not that the athletes words in your time. But it's at the scale is so they were working on my time. Yeah. It was not a big thing. Our finals was on delayed television nineteen seventy five it's nowhere even comparable. It's just the same way. People say oh inflation in the salaries forget inflation. There's no way in the world. And the same thing with what it is. Now the exposure. I mean, everything that they do everything is put on on video somehow, someway, the different stations that are out there, specializing in sports only. So it's a totally different world in the celebrities have gotten involved not that there weren't people that did it. I mean, we had a lot of celebrities to come to our games. And all but it wasn't like the big in vogue thing to do. I mean, the scene Noah's. Yeah. It wasn't a scene wasn't a happening in the OB. Didn't have hey. All star game seventy nine thousand nine hundred sixty seven all star game. San francisco. We played a game on Friday night. I flew to San Francisco went to a banquet that night played the all star game Sunday afternoon and played a game away on the road. It was it's it's so different. It's just unbelievable back when I give speeches and talk. I compare what it was like when I played is deposed the way it is today for the players and people are laughing. I said we used to get I'm not doing this to be funny. This is all the truth. It's such a dramatic difference. It's it's almost beyond comprehension. Does that aspect of it the entertainment aspect of its there are times when I feel like especially for the more traditional lists of which you may or may not be. But sometimes it feels like the show has taken over the game while it has an all star weekend. That's the case for sure, but even even even the game itself because these guys are at another level. Does it does it ever concern you that the game has kind of lost amid and also because of are we're in and social with social media and everything else we're so fixated on trade rumors and transactions and all these things there are times when people say, well, it feels like there's two NBA's? There's the game there's basketball, and then there's this soap opera, that's that's kind of this ongoing narrative guy. That's it's part of what what exists today because of the media, I tell people. In the media back when I played I didn't go out and drink beer. I mean, a lot of the guys out anyone get some beers after a game or something we didn't leave they leave on charter flights right after the game. And so the riders would sometimes go out sit down have a beer guys talk. And they only wrote about the game. Now, they're all looking for the sensational story. Find the guy that's doing something with drugs finding this beaten up his girlfriend or his wife or find a guy. That's doing something wrong. Get this insatiable story to be able to get the headlines, and it's about that as opposed to just the game itself in the one redeeming quality about the is that the only team that wins the championship is a team that place the game the way it should be played that place defense. 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Obviously, you still have very strong affiliations there. I think you're wearing a championship. Bring Avalon Seattle. Any ring I ever wear. I mean, you don't play for individual honors. So you would have you thought about the the concern that people express the times that this is it's become, you know, a fate accompli. And the the suspense is gone. And it's kind of ruined the last several years there where people have it's just going to be the warriors in the end. Anyways. Is that a real a real factor? I wanted to be a factor. It was that way with the Boston Celtics. I mean years ago, I mean they've talking about many decades ago, and that's part of sports the keys in the old days when I was growing up. I was Yankee hater, you know, I loved it. New York Giants Willie Mays number twenty four. That's why I did it sports is always been that way. They've always had the dominant team that's done things because as bad for the game for the game. It's the history of the sport. There's always been the dominant players in the individual sports, the dominant teams in the other sports and. It's it's a matter of the other teams trying to do the job better. You know, like I tell people in team sports who draft who Detroit for Hootie getting free agency. It's all about getting right players. And if you don't pick the right players, then you pray. You get a coach doesn't screw it up. I mean, so then you gotta get the right chemistry and the right combination. When you do that, you have a chance to be successful. And so that's what it comes down to the novice lead. There are a lot of teams out there that don't do very good job of that. Do you have any? What's what's your feeling right now? We're we're sitting here, you know, almost two-thirds the way through the season. The warriors seemed to have kind of gotten their Mojo back a little bit. And it's been this way the last couple of years right within a scuffle little during the season. And it's a long season. They know that they're playing for June. Do you see anybody out there this season that actually looks builds to if not beat them at least push them to the limit? There's always somebody that's going to have an opportunity to challenge them. I mean, the all certainly in the west there are some good teams that can challenge them if they're sold a better. How how are you playing come late April going into me? And if you're playing your best basketball, and if the other team, isn't you have a chance to beat them. But the reality of it is that you take all factors. And if each team that plays in the playoffs is playing their best basketball of that time. There isn't a team in the league that can beat the warriors and seven games, but that doesn't necessarily always happen. So that's why you still always have to play the games the team still has to go out there and perform they can't get distracted with other things and. I just think the warriors are, you know, the major factor in the in the league, and the, you know, the one that should win if everything is the way it should be. But it doesn't always work that way. I mean, we're the perfect example of that seventy five in the biggest upset in the history of the finals, and we were a team that was supposed to make the playoffs. We were joke. And then we finally go, and we wind the beaten, Chicago and stemming games to go and get to the finals and surprise everyone. And then this, oh, it's the biggest mismatch in the history of the NBA finals where that team's to get swept. And we sweep the team that swept us. I mean. So that's why I know. And that's why talk about it with such conviction because I know what can happen. Anything can happen in sports. So even though the warriors are prohibitive favor. Maybe from a betting standpoint, nobody knows what these situations going to be come April. What's the health going to be of all of the players are the guys playing at that time? How are the other teams playing? There's so many other variables and factors that come into play that to be predicted now and say, oh, they can do this. Who knows I mean? Addicted now is well if it took place now, maybe that's a good idea to make the prediction. But you certainly can't predict for predictions aside is there. No. Is there a team in the east that you think actually has a shot? No, not if everything if they're playing their best in the warriors. They're playing their best. Nobody's going to be war is not in seven games. It's not going to happen. And so if the warriors don't then maybe they have a shot at it. But anybody has shot at it. The worry still have to get out of the west, but they're only going to get out of the west if they played their best basketball if they don't then they could be in trouble. I know you wait on this spoke with the my colleague, Stefan to you over at the new York Daily News about the idea of Durant possibly wanting leave to go New York or wherever he may go are you at all puzzled by just the idea that a situation that he's that. He's got right now that he might wanna leave at all understand it. He's he said that. I mean, that's. So. In fact, he said he said, hey, leave me alone. I just wanna play Pasco ball. I mean, this is what I'm talking about looking for this insatiable story the things away from the game. I mean this let them play ball. I mean, if he decides he wants to leave. I think it would be a mistake on his part. That's my personal thing. But hey, I'm not Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant may have his own reasons as to why he wants to do something. I can't conceive of why mainly because of the fact that he's since such an incredible situation. I'm I would I would have paid and give up part of my salary to be on the team like this to be able to have a team that can be so dominant that have so many great teammates that you never have to worry about that you got to carry the load the whole time. But if you had to your capable of doing it time, whatever happens happens played unselfishly look at the worries. I mean, come on look at some of the quarters. These guys have why because they play on selfish. Hey, guys, going good clay thirty seven in one quarter steps going good. Given the ball. Katie's going good. Give him the ball. I mean, that's the fun part of the game. That's why why would he want to leave and go play someplace else when he's on a team that plays the game the way it should be played. He goes someplace else that. Not necessarily going to be the case what our chances of winning a championship a heck of a lot less than the RV stays with the warriors. And isn't it about being a part of something special? Something unique one of the greatest teams of the history of the sport. And you have a chance to be a part of it. And they give that up. You talked a little bit about stuff with the Lakers on before age someday. I there's no doubt my mind that Shaquille O'Neal Kobe Bryant and be sitting down in there rocking chair away. It may be maybe it will be that old. And they're gonna say what the hell were. We think we had a chance to be one of those kind of teams, and they gave it up because of whatever the reasons may have been which I mean, come on you have something so incredible going for yourself. I guess there's some players and doing stuff like guys do make moves that used to be about money or something like that their egos. Hey, it's not about money anymore. You got enough money to live with, you know, ten lifetimes a hundred lifetimes, it's about you want to be a champion. And I have no problem with guys wanting to leave to go to a team to try to become a champion. And that's what it should be about. And also don't have fun. So how good was Sean Marion after he left the Phoenix Suns? I would pay to play with Steve Nash gay. I mean, Steve Nash made him so much better a basketball player. He never was as good a player when he left a great example of what can happen. No an Amari Stottlemyre. Same thing in the words of chance to do something historic. I mean, it's obviously not in has dominated a narrow the way that the sixty Celtics did with eleven warriors verge of doing something like that first time because they should have won. I mean, they gave away that series. And of course, you know, suspending dre mom was such a joke. But we want to get into that. And so they could had an unbelievable run going like the Celtics did and was the team that they have now, and especially if boogie gets back to being healthy this year and everything and who knows maybe he'll decide, hey, you know, what, you know. I don't need all that money. I'd rather stay. I like to be a part of this. Hey, if he were to stay, and they all stayed together. They could challenge with the Celtics did eleven thirteen years. I mean seriously that's not that's not far fetched. It's I mean, the talent. Certainly there. I do wonder if just eventually age attrition health. Those things will will will at the age of those guys. Now, they're still aged all the data my mouth, but they allowed a young guy winning miles. My forget miles. We played forty. I think forty seven minutes a game. These guys play thirty six minutes a game there come on. Let me bring has nothing to do with the miles. I mean, they travel they go after the game they leave and go and get a good night's sleep. They don't get up at two in the morning. You get three hours of sleep to go on a commercial flight completes. Don't tell me about the mileage that has nothing to do as a matter of whether or not they can stay healthy and not get injuries. But if this team stays together at the age that they are they've got another this team could be runway. Yes. Yeah. Five six years, sir. I mean, five Sixers everybody wanted bunch of championships. It could be unbelievable. What they can do. I hope they do because I love watching the play not because it's my team. I feel the same way. If it was any team, you just like great. I'd love greatness. Yeah. I'd love watching greatness in everything in life. I have great respect for people who are at the top of their profession, and I love what this. Team is doing I'm grateful that they are the team that I used to play for was there a team back guys didn't move around quite as often back in your day. Although you very famously you make a couple of moves it at the time were considering what made it available for all these guys to do this. Yes, I want to get do. I get a commission for that. No. I Don royalty. Take that up with no. I want to get to that. But before it gets to that. Was there a team back if you had been able to move with as much freedom as these guys have today was there a team back? Then you thought man that's the team. I really well. I would've tried to put the end of my career tried and I was going to go play with the Celtics like so many players did late in their careers, and they were interested except to show you how the league is change in one thousand nine hundred eighty the league cut the active roster from twelve to eleven if it wasn't for that. I would have gone with bird and all I would have been with the Boston Celtics. They cut the roster to eleven I don't have any recollection as what was the rationale at the time to save money to save money. Cut to Russia's to eleven. Now, they have fifteen and two two guys seventeen guide also making like nine billion a year. I understand. So what I'm saying? I mean, it shows you how things have changed because I mean, I had my knee scoped and cleaned out. Dr found the piece of calcium that was as big as a silver dollar but twice a stick in the back of my knee. He said to me he says, Rick how did you play with this? I said, I didn't know it was there and he took that out. And for the first time in ten years. I had never felt so good. It was unbelievable. I could finally sit down sit down with my knee bends, and you know, in a movie, theater or someplace and not have pain. I could sleep through the night without waking up with pain. It was it was like having a new new body new leg new life. And I never got the play pro basketball again, and it was, but I got has a plan you accept that you move on. But I I mean, I really could help them. I was it was them the Lakers and the Sonics the three teams that I thought could play. But I wanted to go someplace where I could win. You place your a chance to win. So that Celtics team that that would have been the dream scenario. Yeah. Yeah. I would played at sometimes you could have burden me on the court at the same time. He could've played power forward. I could've played small forward. Would they gonna choose to guard was interesting? I was just looking back through some notes and just the archives on on your career. And we talk so much today about position the skies and point forwards and everything else you were one of the vertical going forward. I was going to say one of the, you know, I was the one defer point for everybody thought about it. I get a rebound. Come on. And I bring it up to court. And I joked about it because this a hell, yeah. Rick Perry really handle the ball. I could dribble right hand left hand into a crossover dribble. That extent of my dribbling skills. I see my son. Even now my youngest son canyon to ball drills and things he was doing stuff that these guys do with the ball now. And I'm going, but you know, what I could learn do that also had to do is put the time, but we weren't even allowed to coach push on the bench. Sometimes if you did stuff like that when I was younger, and being, you know, but now you can do it. And if it's used properly, it's great. But I think it's overdone, and I'll give you a great example James harden too much too much too much way too much. I mean, I've talked to guys. Over here. I mean, so many guys said I never wanna play with him. He plays on nothing against what he's done. He's amazing offencive machine in a way, you can score and do stuff. But I think that the detriment of the team. I mean, even Kobe came out and said, there's no way they can win playing basketball like that. And I I agree. One hundred percent, I asked some of the other guys who are shooters. How would you like the play? And what are you kidding? But I said, here's what I did say that I think I knew the game well enough that if I were on his team, and I know what he's capable of doing. And he will give the ball up gets double figures. Assist. A lot of times. I'd make them have to throw me the ball because I'd set my guy up and I'd be back cut them. And I'd be getting myself open to the point where he would have to throw me the ball. Otherwise, he would get criticized tremendously. I mean, he he has a guy who year in year out has very high tolls usually averaging seven eight and nine assists a game. I mean, obviously has the ball in his hand my guy if you have the ball yet much if you can't get that many assist. I mean, come on seriously just this year. I haven't shown whatever. But he's mean, he obviously isn't gifted passer. And he's he is addicted. Player. I just think it's like anything excessive anything to an extreme is usually not good. Yeah. And this is to an extreme is what do you make of just we've obviously got a lot of guys. Like Russell Westbrook, obviously dominates the ball a lot. There is there is a, but he's finally learned he started to do a little bit with K D because he was doing too much in Brussels. Biggest province Russell try to force things too much. But he finally did it with Katie and they had a chance to come. There should have beaten the warriors that that season, and they blew it. And then they blew the team up. But he's now doing it again. And he's given Paul a chance to do stuff. Give him Paul a lot. Thank you. So he's getting understanding. It's about the winning. It's not about going out. And you get in triple doubles and stuff. It's a matter. Whether you're winning or not having a chance to be a champion. And so he's learning it takes guys time. Right. I mean, it's just when you have skill at that level. It's hard sometimes to figure out where the balance takes time maybe to register. But if it was instilled in you at a younger age is when coaching. Into it to teach you the proper way to play the game in the proper way to play. The game is new what's best for the team not yourself and play unselfishly. It seems like that's one of those lessons that every every generation every great player at learned over and over. You know, we talk about it all the time around the game. But each player has to kind of come to that point themselves. Let's say how the how you were taught. I was taught to play though, I taught very very aggressive offensive player score for more. So than shooter. But to the point where I mean, I'm going to try to find a way to score. But only if I don't have a teammate in a better position. And I actually got way more satisfaction. I'd make it a really good play to get an easy basket from my teammate than I did scoring myself. 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Spotify an NBA dot com slash the starters until then the race today. People. Earlier wanted to talk about this. You'd challenge the reserve clause before Kurt blended and baseball so that you could go to the you were protrayed as as selfish, greedy. As all these things gives vilified you were you at one point when you are with the Oakland team in the NBA, they moved to Washington refused to report. So you weren't because that's because that's because they hit agreed not to my my I should listened. The attorney said you need to put that in writing. And I didn't have it in writing a neighbor. I was promised that you know, that I wouldn't have to go if the team left because I love the bay area at the time and doing it, and they left, and that's why I challenged it. Because I went I still honored every contract ever had. But the thing is I was stupid because I didn't have it in the contract. I had in the contract, and they moved I wouldn't have had to go. I would have been able to stay. I bring it up only because we talk so much about today's players this feeling of player empowerment of self determination of deciding you know, what I don't have to be bound to this team forever. Whether it's forced trades. Whether it's leaving it free agency. And they still get vilified for you. You know, LeBron gets killed for leaving Cleveland. The first time kitty it's killed for leaving Oklahoma. I mean you did. So the time when this was absolutely uncommon to challenge the status quo or the idea to player somehow belonged to a team a city a franchise. I can only imagine what the backlash for yours Arbel. Yeah. That was it was crazy. But I you know, I did what I felt when my heart. I wanted to do I I I did it because the bottom line is is basketball has been fun to me. I love basketball always enjoyed playing. We went and came within two place to brick and pick and roll place involving Nate Thurmond myself, and we'll Chaim on that had they gone our way instead of their way, we win in six games. Not that team. That's the one of the teams that people pick is one of the greatest teams of all time and led the league in scoring was the MVP of the all star game. And I didn't have a lot of fun. Unfortunately, God rest Assila loved him as a person. Bill Sharman was not fun to play for Bill. Sharman is the one started morning shoot around which I think is the biggest ridiculous thing in the world. What the hell I wanted to go out at ten o'clock in the morning and go expend energy when I'm going to play forty seven minutes that night. I mean, I know what it was forget get you add a bed. So you don't leave your game in bed. But so let's have a meeting at the hotel, you know, get of bed and just walked through and talk about stuff. Why do I need to go on the court, and we used to go then with jeans and sneaks, and it was just to get Joetta? But oh to get used to. I said, you know, you want to get used to the baskets and stuff and so. We're going. We're going to an LA. We're you over to all the Mary mind on the bus, and I go and being the smartest and that. I was I said I Bill are we playing here tonight. No. Of course, not I said, well, then why do I want to get used to these baskets? You know, just show you how ridiculous it was. It was it was just to get out of bed. And so, you know, and then it's turned into a full-scale frigging workout. Sometimes I mean, I just to me. That's like the most insane thing that teams do I mean, I don't want my players to use any energy at all the morning of the game. Now, I could have it set up that the guys who aren't playing have a chance to go get a little workout in and get some work and do some great. But the guys my seven eight guys that are playing the most of the time. No, no. If you wanna go, okay. You know, let them decide if they wanted to do it or not I'm not gonna make it mandatory not not as a coach. I didn't do that. When I coached in the minor leagues. I mean, I didn't want to have my guys do it. I mean, but it's like if you don't do it all of a sudden while you're bad coach. I mean, more and more teams of going away from it in recent years, where they're either doing pre-game walk through at the arena, and because of the all the sleep science sport science a lot of teams Doc Rivers teams in Boston in LA have done away with the morning shoot around on the premise that you guys on a consistent sleep patterns, so they're slowly. But surely. Okay. So head of my time once again. No telling you that it was worthless. It was a joke to do it. I think it was. It was not productive. I don't think it was productive at all. You could accomplish the same thing. Just having a meeting at the hotel sermon was proud of it though. I remember talking to him about it years later about how he he seemed very proud of having created that convention begin your own background in terms of your moves as a player. What do you think of all of this modern? We've seen more all star movement the last six seven eight years, and I think we've maybe ever seen. There's the Anthony Davis saga. That's that's obviously dominated for the last several weeks. What do you make of players just kind of taking their careers in their own hands in this way? Well, I have no problem with them doing it. I just think that they go about it the wrong way. I mean, it's a little bit disconcerting. I think for a guy who still has this year and another year on his contract to be doing it at this time. I think the timing on that sucks. His agents should have gone in and had conversations was two team in private go talk about it. Keep it in house. You know, all of this stuff and putting out there doing it. I mean, he's not doing it. It's not. Any good for him because it hurts his reputation. I think and I think it screws up to team there's no question in my mind that one of the reasons that the Lakers one hundred and something points and doing stuff and having some issues out you like to be a member of team when all of a sudden see your name listed that if they make a deal, you're gone. And then the deal doesn't go through and now while okay, I'm still stuck with this guy but shit, I'll get rid of him the first chance I get what does that do for your psyche? And you're feeling about the loyalty that the team has to you and how much they care about you. And so that can I think it's had an impact on the Lakers. You could argue it's it's had an impact on three teams. In fact, it's messed up the pelicans Smith, or should I messed up the Celtics a little bit too because they know they're they're they know what we're this is all leading now that there goes the next one. So that's what I'm saying. Putting it all out there like airing your dirty laundry is not the greatest idea in the world. Of the game itself. Do you enjoy watching the area that we're in joy watching the teams play the right way? Can't stand all the one on one stuff too much one too much 'isolation stand around and watch just because it game was that's not the way I was taught how to play the game. And it's not the way to really good teams play. Well, it's funny because you know, fifteen years ago, whatever when they made all the rules changes to try to get away from it. So they eliminate illegal defense rule. So that we can stop all the ice. Oh and two guys on one side and eight guys staying on the other side watching and for a while there. I mean that that led directly to the Phoenix Suns of the mid two thousand stand Tony's teams which led to eventually to this. This warriors team. Like, we do have I feel like the ball movement and player movement became more in vogue in the last ten years there, obviously a couple outlier teams. Now that I think are almost going back to the old days somehow, you know, without the the rules in place, but I do feel like the game aesthetically is in a better place now than it was say at the tail end of that era before question, I mean, I don't think as many. Teams are doing it. Now, then they're realizing that if you do it you're not gonna win. The rockets were a perfect example of that the way that they played they they had the warriors could add a chance of beating them. But you know, that that basketball is going to come back in it's going to bite you at works only. If your guys are hot and warriors do the same thing that they're their own worst enemy, occasionally, they get carried up carried away, and they stopped playing pass move cut through the other things guys come down and start to do a little bit too much on. Now, you can still work say for guys hot and going good yet can work for you. But the guys are off. You're not going to get the easy basket. You guy you're not going to be as effective as you're. And then he also goes along with having a team that's committed to playing defense on a consistent basis because if you don't play good defense gonna win a championship. Is there a limit to this three point revolution? In terms of either. How far it can go or how far it should go before it starts to maybe hurt the game homogenize the game too much. Well, I think it all depends upon the success that teams will have doing it. I mean, once they realize that, you know, it's it's not going to necessarily work if you just predicate your game totally incomplete and that and forsake the inside game for sake the mid range game. I mean, I guess the other day one of the nice things like when Katie got fifty two or something like that. I think somebody said something like of the fifty to forty two of the points or something came mid range or inside. I mean, you know, it's not doesn't have this shouldn't all be again, excessive things shouldn't all be outside. Should all be inside. You have to have a fine balance. Then when you run an offense the way they run things you can get a variety of opportunities to score you can get mid range, you can create opportunities outside. But you also don't forget the inside game, you know. And so now what? So what happens I give you a great example boogie cousins comes along. And then we step if they decide he's got a mismatch. And they go inside the boogie who can go outside shoot. And could pass. But if they go inside to him, and you took away Draymond out of the game. And you put in like one bell or somebody who can shoot two three. And you've got four guys out there who can shoot the three boogies can have a field day because they have to if they don't double him. He'll just be scoring at will. Right. So if you have to go in double they'll probably come off the bench player. I would imagine you'll you'll try him first and hope that he's not making them. But I mean, you're going to pay a penalty. I mean, you're going to give up three point shots to guys who can shoot the ball. So you can't defend that. I mean, how do you defend the warriors when everybody's on their game? That's the way I'm talking about almost indefensible, and they have three guys that you can't take away his three ca- shoot it like two steps over half court and might make a whole bunch them. Clay can do the same thing Katie can shoot the three, but they all can go to the basket. They all can sit the mid range shot, and they all can shoot free throws if they get fouled. So Addy defend them. Less than before we let you go. This is the last year in Oakland that you've you've played both in Oakland and San Francisco, and this is I mean. I mean, the new arena is going to be spectacular. I know, but there's a historical, you know, a routes that have been set down over over decades in Oakland, any feelings about what the warriors will look like what it will feel like sound like on the other side of the bay. All I think it's still going to be great to have a great following. I mean, probably be inconvenient for some of the people who came from the East Bay. But they'll still be other people will come and be easier for people come from up in the north, you know, across the Golden Gate and come from the south. I mean, it's it's six one half a dozen and they'll get the following. It's gonna be a great building people are gonna want to see the building. It's going to be spectacular. And of course for me. It is always always be fun for me. Because I mean, that's where we had a chance to have that great season that we have. But of course, we didn't play our finals there we played into the cow palace. So it's not like I have memories of winning the championship at the oracle. Or you know, what used to be Oakland County? Yeah. You know? My my memories are the two games we had at the cow palace. Right. Played when I was a rookie wild. Where was the parade. There was a parade. Yeah. No, they actually had. They actually had a thing. We went to the Coliseum and they had to fans came in and rallying in the rally in the Coliseum. Listen, no parade. One more way in which things have changed. Just everything's changed. It has. But it was great. I wouldn't trade it for anything. And I'm just proud to have been a Golden State warrior, and you know, this is proud to have had the career that I've had and and proud of the way that I did it because I showed up every night when I put my sneaks on other than the first quarter of one game that I can remember in my entire life that I played basketball was I not mentally ready to play my game. I hit my I wasn't focused on what I was supposed to do. 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"Bedale podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card or four percent cashback on dining entertainment two percent at grocery stores. One percents on all purchases. What's in your wallet? These sees the base of the Dan lebatardshow with this to got spot Cass. Cleft palate Cunningham. Club foot, Charlie Chapman. Yesterday. If you did not hear the show we longed for the day when you can make fun of a man's deformities in baseball in the early nineteen hundreds. Although I think we may have had it wrong. Mike because I feel like you can also in two thousand nineteen make jokes about fingers lost to firecrackers like fingers if three fingers Brown Mordechai three fingers Brown. I think that is actually something that can happen in two thousand and nineteen put it on the poll Guillermo would Mordechai three fingers Brown be named three fingers in two thousand eighteen it like we could get away with four fingers three. That's an interesting. That's an interesting point you made. And it makes me think of the time that we didn't know how many fingers. Pierre Paul Jason Pierre Paul had it was in a sports center update. You can't play this sound enough. Because I love the juxtaposition of serious journalism news update with the facts being explained. What was the name of the guy thing is Kevin winter. I always want to make a Dave Revzin. What's I missed a revson? That was wanna make Dave reps. Three fingers. Nickname was also minor three fingers such a better nickname than minor minor. Minor like minor like a coal miner minor like a young person. No, minor league a coal miner. Maybe that's how he lost the finger. No. I know exactly how we had a side job. It was a lawn mowing incident. Yeah. You did they have lawnmowers back. Wait a minute. Wait. Are you making that up? I know what I read was the he was like, plenty more invented Atty here. I mean, there was the old school one that there so manual ones that you can just you know, they're inefficient. I think you're right though. I think that the lawnmower had been discovered by the time that Mordecai Brown was pitching eighteen thirty wasn't discovered. It wasn't like, you know, invented yet. I'm sorry. Thank you, Billy important correction there. It wasn't anybody. It wasn't Columbus happening upon a lawnmower. Thank you that. We started from the Indians. Thank you, Billy. I appreciate bringing everything to what is this device. Common symbols. Taking a machete to go. John deere. Doing this Fischetti. What kind of correction was that to make letting back probably unnecessary? Listen the Kevin winter. Giants owner John Mara. Who also today said he doesn't how many fingers JP has. Amazing. He really loves it. It will never stopped being funny. Also, funny, Jordan bowel man, we have got to the day. Tell me you guys have heard this story. Have you guys heard the story? I don't even want you to look it up. I want to tell you I want all you what the story is. If you have not heard this story, the Golden State Warriors season of, hey, we're still kind of the best and in first place, but we've had a series of disasters has a disaster in it that no one could have seen coming which is that Jordan bell. Who is a player that you know, about only because the warriors have made him a player that you know, about what suspended for one game. Because does anyone in the room know this story? No one in the room knows this story. I think it's from the athletic. He was charging things to Mike Brown's hotel Rupe? Oh, no. I mean. Oh, yes. It is. We found the NBA Stu, and it wasn't the first time. Evidently that it happens. Steve Kerr doesn't wanna talk about it in any way. Except that. They've suspended him a game, reportedly, according to the athletic because when it came time to put things on the hotel Bill Jordan bell was hitting the assistant coach with. Put it on the Branstad. I think we now understand why Elvin gentry left. Why Luke Walton left? Are you kidding me? An NBA player. What did he sign for? Did. He not sign wasn't there a five million dollar signing involving Jordan bell because Kaga was interested in having him and people were questioning whether or not Golden State should even be allowed to have. It was at McConnell McCall was out there. I as a two year two point one nine three million dollar contract. So I'm guessing my brand probably's worth a lot more serious than Gordon valley does make more money than Jordan bell. God. Can we get Mike Brown that I've actually done that? I did my aunt. We used to go to the fourth of July and Yankee clipper, which was a hotel out on Fort Lauderdale beach. We used to go every year fourth of July multiple years, and I was like eleven or twelve I'd go down to the deli. They're asked what room number Ambani's room? You've done it to somebody else. I've had it done to me believe the defensive lineman's name from the university of Miami was marked Caesar. I didn't understand why. He wanted to spend as much time with me as he was spending. And it's because he wanted to get my room number and when I checked out good God good God. I mean, he must have had a lobster and crab feast in his hotel room for everyone at scores. Boy. I do it. Every time I go on vacation. Sky you prowl the lobby if you on the jump, okay? For eight minutes, it could pay for an entire ski trip has anyone in our show have any of you ever grabbed something that room service left outside. Oh, man, judging you because you'll have us in your up French fries. No. Because it reminds me of the Mark Caesar stuff. I'm remembering that entire trip. I remember I remember, Dan. Did you do that? I did do that. Oh, man. What made him a slice of pizza? Oh, really understand like, you know, a lonely little fry, but a whole slice of pizza, and man, I've been drinking. Well, no, I was going to say it sounds like a sober decision. Was this the food that people I thought a magical pizza ferry appeared? And giving me the exact thing that I wanted from them. It was this a leftover food that they didn't want. No doubt. It wasn't a bit and piece of pizza. I don't know whether it was getting there or it was leaving there. I'm telling you that the pizza was full when it was there was a full pizza and I gates again. Was there a glass an empty glass on the tray was her? There was a lot of food. I had to actually go and lift up the box to see that. There was something in this piece of warm. No, it was not one way to second you lifted up the box. I had to lift up. The look I'm not proud of any of this. You guys have cornered me into it. I know I sort of volunteered it. I was gonna put it on Mark Caesar. But now I gotta own. Well, it can't be both. Then we in force you into it. No I under. I didn't offer it up. Mike saw clearly threw me said I was only bringing it up because I had done. It. The pizza is the most obvious missing piece of any meal. Like, there's no way that you get a pizza that looks like pacman one time. I went I got takeout from a very large pizza company. I went and I got takeout. I got to the car I opened it. And there was a slice clearly missing. And I turned around and drove back like, five blocks. I go to the manager. Yeah. It went back. Yeah. It was time for tough has been compromised. So I go back and go and I walk in. And I go to the manager. They're like, oh is there a problem? And I I was so angry. I didn't even say I just opened the thing and the manager sighed goes again. And then she went and started screaming at the employees. I love that the most confident you that is the closest you will ever be Jason state them in a movie you showing up confident the pizza place not saying word. Just opening your pizza box to reveal your flawed, contaminated feats donlevatar risk reward of going into the woods by yourself, you die or you. See some trees, I'm not going to die to go. See some trees. Stugatz. Isn't amee. You've seen one you've seen them. All okay. There's no special. That is true. This is nonsense SEC donlevatar show with stugatz on ESPN radio. You don't see this resume very much this item on any resume led the first unassisted crossing of the frozen North Atlantic Ocean in an open rigid inflatable boat. So that's and it's very low on his resume. There are other things that people are going to enjoy hearing about bear Grylls with us on ESPN RA radio a net GIO series hostile planet premieres Monday, April first at nine pm and stugotz has the first question because we were just arguing about during the break. And I think he's the only one who can answer it. So go ahead and ask him the question we were arguing about bear. I want to know from this group who has the worst survival skills. Zach f- Ron Ben Stiller Dion Sanders, Channing Tatum, Kate Hudson. Drew Brees, Ed Helms, Michael b Jordan and President Barack Obama for you answer that Barone. Thank you for being with us any guesses in the back room because. Stugatz was guessing Stiller. And edged Helms had I mean, come on. He's got to be awful. Appearances. But I'd goes back Ephron has, you know, pretty boy, I go Bama because he's used to live in that highlife. I mean, all these people are bear. So now, you're here to settle the dispute. Thank you for joining us. A who's got the worst survival skills of that list? Hey, guys. Yeah. Nice. Be with the do, you know? The thing is though he's a he's a few of running wild casts. I've been lucky enough to take into the into the back country a few times and one thing I've learned is. I'm always always loyal to those guys who put that life in my hands and join me for these adventure. So I'd never never do any of the Dan old of them in the right, right genuine being such good people. And I think one of the mice impulsion survival qualities and someone is you know, his willingness to go the extra mile and do the difficult kind of things even when it's not you'll natural habitats. And the tree is all of these guys were way out of that comfort zone. And and but willingly wanted to guy there, and that's how we all grow. I think I think Dion sound is. I'll always have a little got a special place in my heart. Because he was he was the first one we have a date, and I think we really pushed him hard the next year over the years and over the seasons we've learned to kind of. You know, maybe shrink the Jenny's a little bit. And and you know, we didn't have to type people absolutely to the edge of existence at the Dion definitely gone. The dial turned up to ten and I saw right funny interview with him the other day when he was asked about his experience on running wild. And he just was just oh my God. It was the what I've ever done because all think. Is he wasn't joking. You know? So he he was a fun guy. But hey, all of those guys talked to hey rise shows, I'm really proud of. And the thing is a while gives people that sense of pride and come for them that you come by. And that's the magic pot of of running wild. And and what I get today bear before you came on the show, you're waiting for you because you are in an elevator. And your phone wasn't working where the stairs broken today. Yeah. Yeah. I'm we're on the floor. Yeah. I've had my excite today is is good. Only kid Billy of all the things to aunt ask. The Scott like there are many things to ask this guy. That's what you ask. The thing is Dan, I don't want to upset him. But last question took them five minutes to answer. So if I ask which celebrity you wanted to let die. Really, really, Billy. I mean. But you're right bear Grylls with us on ESPN radio. What was the deal with marshawn Lynch, how close did you? What happened? What happened? Are you kicking them out? Chris Chris wants to let guys it was awful. Like, he's a terrible interview opening day. Just kick them out like an impossibly lead question. Simply bad go walk into the ocean. So bear Grylls with us on ESPN radio marshawn Lynch when you were how close were you to actually doing an adventure show with marshawn Lynch? Well, we did it. That was a great episode. And the thing is I didn't I didn't nice I might about him beforehand, and it was almost like. What did they say about English two nations divided by common language, or whatever, you know? He's not he kept standings. And I I can understand what he was saying. And always saying things go what are you on about this? Is we had a great time. And we had you know, so much fun enough to his people be P seventy people come on to me in the streets about that one. It's funny, but well, a great guy and and beef mode is no laughing method. Well, I thought I thought that you were actually offered something do I have it wrong that you are he night. Now, you say, you're right. It is they did say off to his NBC said, look if you wanted to hosts Aries of episodes taking him around the world doing stuff, you've got it. I know we kind of I love it. But I think with gonna stay on this day. That would be a great show. Great put it on the poll, Chris since we kicked Billy out and he's walking to the ocean at lebatardshow. Would you watch a season long series of bear Grylls walking around the world with marshawn Lynch bear? Is it true that you want jump from sixteen thousand feet and your parachute did not open. Well, I had a malfunction with Apache that ripped. And I it was also serving in the military, and I brought my back in three places. So that was a duck time for me. But that was before the TV staff and also soldier, but I was really lucky at the same time. You know, I had a mazing treatment. And I recovered I spent eighteen months in military rehabilitation strapped up in braces. And all of that stuff and slowly go strong again, and we'll be forever grateful for the treatment. I got there and the good people around me, and you tell us if it's uncomfortable, please I'll move on. But can you tell us what those moments were like because I can't imagine that you've been a lot more scared than that. Given all the perilous situations you've been. Yeah. That just happened really fast. It was getting duck. We rival southern Africa. And you know, I thought I could sort it out in time. And it just you know, ran out of time. But you know, might have had a lot of big injuries over the as from breaking my shoulder and talk to him breaking legs up in the day. Can you name it? So I let back with you know, I feel really lucky to be alive from multiple things, and you know, Shaq and croc attacks and snake bites and you name it and pinned him why we'll Rapids and down crevasses on Everest. And you know, I look back with a huge classic shave that that I'm still around. I've got much to and hopefully the years and developed a good instinct of you know, I think experiences some of on the MRs isn't it United? So I've got pretty good over the as and my job now is to keep these guys people. I'm running wild safe and. Give them great great experiences. Their grills with us on ESPN radio there. I was wondering if you have any rational fears because you're the super brave guy. But I was wondering if like a seagull flies by you. You can't you just can't deal with it. I you know, I I never feel. I am a super bright guy. You know, really? I'm just somebody who's put up doing this stuff. I try and through the British special forces in combat survival sausage become a skill. But I think it means it's an easier to faith difficult things. I still say that fair a lot, you know, I still have to skydive love for my job. I find that really difficult. Optima accident. But you know, I I did it, and as it was a hand from one of the career my shoulder when that door opens them about ago and still filming, and it's like, you know, all of us in our lives face difficult things most days, and you just go to I think Len and remind fells and the best way rough as is the straight through the middle keep walking towards him don't run for the difficult things and you develop a muscle light. Not you develop a, you know resilience inside that if I've K you not you just go to kind of keep focus and do it with heart, and so and commit to things, but I'm I feel a fail. Then you worry about that. Yeah. I'm afraid of frogs Burton reels with us he called nine one one on a frog. He did he called nine one one. It was a big big frog in his driveway. He's not joking bedroom that Geos series hostile planet premieres Monday, April first, nine PM. I will ask him about that in a second. But I've got a bunch of questions here for you. I need to go rapid fire because Billy ruined. The interview the worst bite you've ever suffered is blank. Snake bite. What kind of snake? Well, luckily, it was a it was a well as vita, but it was a non venomous bites. I got lucky. Give us the reason that you hosted a dinner party suspended below a hot air balloon twenty five thousand feet in the air bear Grylls. Well, we're trying to break break a record for the highest hyphen at dinner, we raise he money fed disadvantaged children in the price asset, and it was a. Yeah. It was good mission. Say for scary. Safe or scary, a dinner party hosting a dinner party suspended from a hot air balloon? What was the first one safe or scary faith? No scary. That one, you know, his minus forty five degrees on June suspended under this thing at love of. That was big I wrong that but good team again. And yeah, we we got lucky we manage it just about the and he doesn't do safe. I know, but that's crazy. Why did you ro naked in a homemade bathtub that was raising money for friend of mine who lost his leg, and we were trying to raise money for a great news prophetic rim. So we raise we rode in about twenty five miles down the river. We did it. We got his leg. He's grateful to this day these scariest encounter bear Grylls has ever had with an animal is blank. So would a crocodile northern territory. It's most really, yeah. Very nearly didn't walk away from that one. Got your grabbed you? SM minimum to the way. Okay. All right because okay. And that and that was going to be a death blow like what happened there? How'd you end up in that situation, if they get if they get hold of you and your collects the Wolfson, you you're toast? You know, they get you in the mood to and then letting in that drown you Rowley sticky underdog way, Peter rot, rip me limb flame swallow you down. So yet use your bathrooms in the wild. So it would across you know, you know, you're not gonna win don't get cooled get in the water unless you can see it. It's like Mick Cronin. Dan. This guy is unbelievable. You should watch NAT GO series hostile planet premieres Monday, April first, nine pm, two got we've got an announcement to make with stugatz and premier he's making on Monday as well bear tell us about hostile planet while you're excited about it. When it's probably the, you know, the the biggest natural history show seven be made, you know, thirteen hundred days of filming tomato saying, it's really shying, Jack how extreme life. It's animals right on the edge. And you know, we may have seen blue planet and planet to this takes it to the next level. And it is pretty shocking viewing of these animals by predator and prey have to deal with the United. We go Jaguars. Pulling crocodiles out of the water polo, the bad hunting for Wales, you know, it's just unbelievable some of the footage, and I'm super proud of this bear, we enjoyed talking to you. Good luck with the show. Thank you for sharing your time with us. We'll the best guys they say they. All right. Sorry about Billy's question. Cash. More of the Dan labor Dr show with stugatz. Ten to one eastern on ESPN radio and ESPN news donlevatar seven o'clock on the dot the memo dropped up cruising, enlist, reits Lee. Wait infamy. Go. God's up. Hey, anticipating good love don't. Keep me. Waiting by got plans to put my hands and places never seen. You know, what they say? They live at our show with stugatz on ESPN radio. Get in touch with the show any time to the one eight hundred flowers Twitter feed at lebatardshow at stugotz. Seven ninety at Dorothy mean if you missed any of our interviews go check out the entire interview on demand, and he Dan Levitan podcast brought to you by the Capital One saver card or four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent of grocery stores. One percent on all their purchases Capital One. What's in your wallet? Guys. It's time for straight talk. It is brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones. Best networks, no contracts. Well, let's give them some straight talk here from amino Hassen before we get into the nonsense and hijinks and Mike. This will give you some time to figure out whether you want to get into this karaoke off against Chris. And I mean because you like your. Singing voice, and you like to sing. And what what you're going to come in. You're going to say I'm too much of a professional. Don't don't drag me into this. This is a a beef between two guys leave it to the amateurs to this one out. Are you in a karaoke league? I mean as the call me, Chris karaoke. That back rose bringing it today. Let's get into this karaoke de off this karaoke off in a second with them for a while. But first, let's are you intimidated now his last name used to be carrying. Kerio? How do you blow that line Chris carry OT period key? It's really just one sound. So before we how could you possibly have a rebuttal for that was your name a mean, Gary, okay. So wait, if you're just joining us a mean claims that he is better at karaoke. And Chris, Cody if anyone else wants to get in on this bro feel free to tell me prepare your song and get ready. Chris carry Oti that was a lie. That was a lie. That was the line that you blue. Yes, Billy's still not looking at Allison. Allison's looking at no one, man. All right. So before we get to that though. Jordan bell has been suspended of for one game by the warriors. The warriors have concluded that he tried to charge a hotel purchase to assistant coach, Mike Brown. I mean, please as a former sons executive give us some insight to this that we can't get anywhere else. Because this is a story that I wanna make fun of. Oh, no. It's a brilliant move by him. Because when you go into these hotels, you check in and obviously the hotel is paid for but everyone has to leave a credit card for incidentals. Right. And so if you know the name and the the room number of anyone in the party, you can go ahead and leave something on there. And they never fact this, right? And and to illustrate this point during training camp man, it was a while ago. But we're in San Diego weren't training kept like ten days at this hotel, and the vets decided that they were going to charge everything. And I. Mean everything to the rookies without telling them, right? So anytime they went for breakfast anytime, they got drink from the bar anytime. They would ruined service. They kept leaving the room number and the rookie name on there. And they didn't tell the rookies. And so when checkout happens in the rookies get you get that seat under your door. There was like tens of thousands of dollars charges on there. And the poor kids are like they haven't even gotten their first NBA check yet because your first paycheck doesn't come in until like November fifteenth or something like that. And so these poor kids are like, how am I gonna pay? Right. That sheet on the door can be terrifying really can gonna pull gear at lebatardshow ten that sheet under the hotel room door, be terrifying. Doing build a second year player, and he figured it out already. That's pretty good. So what kind of problems does that cause in a locker room for him? Is it just the shame of it is Mike Brown. Is there any sort of trust stuff that goes on or it's just a silly? Because I remember didn't the Yankees have to the Yankees had to waive somebody because that's somebody stole Derek Jeter's glove, and they couldn't have that in their in their locker room anymore. That's a little different. I think when you're talking about I can't leave my stuff around you. Because I if someone charges breakfast and room service, and all that all my Bill. It's pretty easy to see. Hold on. These are my charges who charged us. Right. But if someone takes your possession. So we had a problem with a a maintenance person who would come in the middle of the. Night. And while were, you know, cleaning, whatever would dip their hand in pockets and takes them, and we caught him on tape, and the, you know, that's that's bad. Right. But this this is gonna be they're gonna make fun of him for the rest of the time. He's just he's he looks like an idiot. Even though anti play. Ruben Rivera was the guy they released him. If he was someone better that we probably stays in. You know stays on the call all right around the pole Guillermo at lebatardshow is if Maryono Rivera had stolen, Derek Jeters glove, would he have been waived cousins, actually with Ruben Rivera. Let's do this right now. Do you know that used to call me, Mike internet research? Do you? Do you have the songs ready for amino has an and clear karaoke champion? Chris Carey coaching. Europe. I this is your is it. Oh, it's he's up. I that's how we're doing it. All right. We're going. I Chris Cody believes that he can beat him, you know, hasn't. And he's in the disadvantaged position of going first. Let's see what he's got really performing. Very broad it. You could feel. You'll be amazing in his delusional confidence. Under shouldn't have Chris karaoke Anderson. Why they called you that how we all understand why they called you Chris Carey, okay? Growing up. So amino Hassen is in a league is in a karaoke league. Are you daunted by that are you helped him and aided by what Chris Cody not at all? I wrote some notes actually critiquing the performance. I was similarly impressed with the confidence had three the lyrics off his phone. That's the demerits. Like, if you don't know the song don't sing it also on you out of the mind. Also what you're saying you're at the karaoke bar. You're not looking at anything karaoke is. I think I'm out here. Reading a screen. Gods like, wow. Oh, hold on little benthic enough for you waiting screen, really. That is against league play. It's not. But it's at the merit like it. Like, you can't like, okay. Also while it sounded beautiful song choice for me was the problem because you got to get everybody in the karaoke bar move. Upset though. I mean, I I was I was impressed by the former I liked the eye contact when he got to the hook. Like, he won't Ellen is the part. I know also his voice kind of faded in and out when he was a little less common. Sing are we going to get to years? All right. We're going to do that next. We're out of time. Again, we gotta tease into the next segment. You will hear the rebuttal from a mean, I can't imagine that. I mean does this. Well, he's gotta be terrible. I gotta be no, I imagine it goes. Well, because every time a menas bragged about anything on the show it always go. So well for them when when it comes down to pay off donlevatar, I mean as the call me, Chris karaoke, still gods. That back rose bringing it today. DCC's live at our show with this to God's own ESPN radio. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Guests on the Dan lebatardshow appear via the shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update. Devon Booker reached the fifty point more for the second consecutive game. The sun's loss to the wizards. The rare back to back fifty burgers with two losses. It is it's rare put it on the poll lebatardshow is rare for your to fifty burgers to end up in losses aside als. Manchester. United has appointed OG s as its manager a three year deal so zero effort actually, look up how to pronounce Gunnar it's the last name that I just I can't there's a whole World Wide Web that high checked it, and I still can't worldwide. You didn't check it. I didn't. And finally speaking to improv students at upright citizens brigade theater in east Hollywood, that's a tough one for me. They do that. That's why it's in there on Monday brigade. I can't say Jordan Peele discussed the shift in power dynamics. Now that he's a mega success while being in the public eye has made him susceptible to having anyone come up to him an hour into dinner. It also gives him the influence to staff is movies with under represented talent. I don't see myself casting a white dude as the lead in my movie, he said via the Hollywood reporter, nor that I don't like white dudes. But I've seen that movie. Okay. Where where will all the white actors go now that they can't be in that movie for all the latest headlines information, tune in the sports center on ESPN radio all throughout the day? So I've been told that Jason Jackson has emerged from whatever hibernation last night and put him in. I him walking into any carry okay room and just pointing at people and saying it's time to ball. Y'all y'all imagine that right? I mean, I I don't know who he has peon you imagine to be the best of the karaoke producers like if you look at people at ESPN, and you think to yourself who is great at karaoke. Who are some names that come to mind? I mean, I'll Hassen is sitting here telling us that he's claiming that he's very good at this. It's hard to imagine. I'll tell you who's really good not at ESPN anymore, though. Djamil hill. Mel hill puts on a performance. What she goes not see. There are rules. The there's their standards to carry. Okay. Number one is song selection. So while I appreciate the degree of difficult that Chris did with the Tyree song. It's not one as my point out that gets a cloud moving. You gotta get a song against crime movie at the same time. You gotta pick a song that tells the crowd. I don't take myself too serious. All right. Well, we're gonna get to that song in just a second. I I wanna wish you happy birthday here. Happy seventy fifth birthday to Rick berry abbey birthday to him. I don't care. Good luck. Also, happy forty ninth birthday to Vince Vaughn happy birthday to him. I don't care. Good luck. I can't be good. When you come away with like, your initial reaction to hearing that is only. Are you guys apprised at Vince Vaughn is only forty nine put it on the poll gear his mid fifties. Can you play for us the embarrassing sound of stugatz? Arguing with Rick berry in a way that made Stu gods. Apologize to Rick berry on the way home from work to his father. He apologized his own father did and he apology here. The call Rick Perry as demanded by his father. You're about to see why I mean, you shoot Falun underhand expert areas. No way way. The game. I know about the game Rick Perry played and by the way, does a sports radio show. So he knows all right. I used to do. Admire guys likes to God's enough guts to be able to arguments. And when it came to basketball Archimi about any other sport. And I'll take your word. It's just as good as mine. Talking about football. But never played. Yeah. It's to God's. Yep. He's like one of the greatest players of all time. No, he is. He's one of my dad's favorite players. And it's why I had to apologize to my dad and my dad made me call Rick. Barry to apologize. Isn't there? More to that come could put city. Scotty pippin. No. He did not. Go to another one put seventy I could put seventy Pippen's. Ticket. That's not the point important trying to change the parameters you made a blanket statement that Kobe Bryant has never wanted. He's never been the owner main reason the championship and here's the Michael Jordan. If he never one without Scottie Pippen name another player without him. Name another player, Rick. How many win without him shack without Kobe won. Because he had Wayne, wait. Okay. Okay. What it Pippen have? Nobody. So go on. But Rick the quite a question was another one question was Rick Perry to you think Koby wants to win one. And be the main reason that was the question. I guess I think because it'd be the person you are not answering the question with anybody Coby so much. You heard your foot in it? You open your mouth and stuck your foot? Give me another player. Who was a great player? Who was the main responsible main responsibly championship without help for somebody else won. It doesn't matter who gives you gonna throw someone back in my face Hakim, allies, go rink. I would go for who. Are you going to go for that? So I got you. Okay. Mr credibility. Thank you. Listen to a back. He should have apologized to me. I very rude. Rick, Barry, happy birthday. I found amazing. How long it took the textures and producers to get you a team allies waiting forever. I mean, it sounds like for. I was thrilled. Money. Give me something. I don't know who feds. But if he had a key he would've played him earlier in that conversation. I'd like to relive my favorite part of that specific clip. But Rick the quick question was another one question was Rick buried this trade show. Hey, you reset the guest. I appreciate that were you in the room while this is happening. Yes. What do you? How are you experiencing? I was hiding under my desk mortified by all of mortified by all of it. But again, if this isn't a shining symbol for sports radio just this back and forth. But Rick the another one question was another one. Question was Rick Barry. Terrible. No. Say I know LeBron's. We got an announcement involving students to make that Monday. And we're gonna make it in the next segment. We've got a big announcement involving stugatz that we're all excited about here. But before we do that go ahead and play a means karaoke song here thirty nine how much time how much. Saying I need. Here we go. Hold my phone. I don't need to look at lyric. Eddie murray. No come on. Audreatta three with how botching what we said girl. I can't girl. I don't understand all real. No, I didn't run it back. Look it up carrot joke. This was the Apollo you'd be boot right now. I mean donlevatar never gonna stop 'em. What I am. And I'm forty four years old. I ain't changed. Stugatz changed. Now. It's worked era. I am. That next year filthy rich these live at our show with this two guards on ESPN radio. We've become very popular by podcast and their issues with that that make the podcast listen difficult when we can't get music cleared on stuff. So I have no idea how this sounds the podcast instead of radio, but I will tell you that there has been an argument in here in which all of us have been burying Amine in a mean is still arguing that he demands the floor to be heard on why he just won the karaoke off with Chris Cody, but before we give the floor to amino acid, and we'll give it to him just play for the audience. Mike, a little snippet of amino has an what he's trying to defend. Girl. Why you want to me? Okay. So there you go. He's got all of the hangover from last night in his throat. You can hear it. It was appalling. I mean, he botches a lyric three words into the song. And. Why you want to hit me? Doesn't describe anything as polit. Why you want to me? Once again, Chris Cody surprises us, and once again amino hasn't says he's going to be great at something. And is it you guys I'm being judged by people who don't know what they're listening to watching. Right. This is like Stu gods. Arguing with Rick. Barry about basketball. You don't know what you're looking at. I know exactly what. I'm listening to awful. I hear. First and foremost, if you wanna hear great singing go to a concert, right? Why you want to? If you want if you wanna have great singing, and you don't wanna pay big money, go to a cover band. Karaoke is about the raw, right? The raw. It's not the auto tune nice in the studio sound why you wanna hurt me. It's about that, raw passion and energy. Why you me number two? The song selection quality one at me, look at how everybody reacted when that music started. It was all downhill from there. Everybody everybody. Then look at the reaction when he started singing why one because I'm singing to a bunch of pleads right now. Let me the nuance karaoke. He crowd me. They know. I sing and the people move. They react. Let me tell you a story. In Hartford, Connecticut, why you want to. Black ESPN. I'm talking Michalis. Michael Smith me to Mill Hill. Let me Marc spears. Why you want to me? I mean, I don't know if Dominic was there. Got a guard. Mike Golic junior. Very caught. Why you want to me we took the small little restaurant in Hartford? I don't. And we turned out with the karaoke. And you know, what I did? I didn't do that song. I did cameo candy. And you wanna know the reaction? The reaction was the entire crowd Stu gods. I'm not lying to you looking at your betting. I the entire restaurant started doing electric slide. That's karaoke skills. Not staring at the phone. Me lyrics. Right. Trump people. All right. Okay. All right. What are we talking about here? Right. Standing up. There's no need to menace us me. Let me like man stand up. Now, it's menacing. When when when gear? Black man can't the pollen. So let's. I wanna make it a ball question where you appall, Dan. Offense. I don't do anything menacingly. I can't even say the word. You still aren't looking at Allison. While you say, it's unbelievable. Alison, Chris Ellison cooled off yet with Billy. Billy is scared of her Allison has really taken a an alpha position on Billy. She hasn't looked this way. Since the interview Mike, can we tell the audience? Now, the big announcement that we have involving stugatz on Monday was an announcement that Mike learned about yesterday with shock and surprise. Do you wanna tell them Stu got? I mean, you guys get tell them. I was I was equally as shocked and surprised when I got when I got the call. No, no. We can't do it here. Next segment. We have to do it Hoppy hour noon. Everyone knows its biggest our in radio poverty drops. It's supposed to drop a little tiny is out now everybody early. All right. It's out early. I was at this week. How is this week? It's just okay. But I want you to subscribe. And I want you to leave as comment, and then I want you to unsubscribe, and then I want you to resubscribe, and I want you to do that as many times, you can I gotta say the reaction on Twitter overwhelmingly positive. Listen, listen to some of those department, very nice. Fantastic performance. Almost flew off treadmill during workup because uncontrollable, delight. Why you want to? Me. I can't tell uncontrollable delight. Did you just change laughter to delight? You did. I mean, what is it somebody or? Who has uncontrollable, Dan, you that was why speed is the real last word great song selection. Why you want to me? Who doesn't love this song? Are you actually reading? He's so handsome. Would be on the jump more scrolling. Adrian all the mockery. The lock screen pretending this girl up. I see your phone. Why you want to me? This is the best. Why you want to be Cashmore of the donlevatar show with this two guts, then to one eastern on ESPN radio and ESPN news. Here MO per on the poll, please that lebatardshow. What's more appalling Amine singing or that he defends it because he has spent the entire break reading it first of all claiming racial bias? He saying that what's happening. There's a cultural divide on Twitter feed in say bias, all I said was noticing a pattern people were like, oh, you were terrible. Have certain cash races of incumbent. Roy said, you're terrible. I did didn't say awful just confirm the report double confirmed. I think I'm starting to come around to a mean side when you go to a karaoke bar. I think you want the singers to be lousy you don't want them to sound professional. I think there is something to the land. Taking a victory lap. Because a lot of people are saying, he's a wonderful entertainer. I'm gonna read some more quotes here because the praise just keeps pilot in Cody might be the better singer. But you sir are an entertainer clap hands clap hands. Right. We're not on TV. I after tnd the crowd that was in the room. I'm sorry. C Chris performance. Chris honesty was a better entertaining. No. He wasn't. He absolutely wide enough fill it at all. Like, totally sold. His. Arrest the microphone at one point. Is if it were singing couldn't stand up a main was pelvic thrusting, though. He was that's true. Oh, MD Amine. That was so and so good radio gold that quote hurt me drop is fired. He didn't write the word fire. He gave me three flame emojis. Why you wanna hurt me? That's a compliment to me. No. It's not. No, it's not because you wanna hurt me. I'm the one who said it billion only clip it. They say that he couldn't stand after my performance. But then you want to hit me. Mike why you wanna hit me a mean one that hands down? I was bidding in the shower lease a curtain, call seventeen hundred prayer hand Moges. Chris how many people dancing the show using mama's a slow jam? All right. So selection, let let's. Okay. Is key Scott. You wanna make the announcement? Or you want me to make the announcement. You made the announcement was very excited yesterday actually got emotional on the phone, but you go ahead, and and you may be talking I'll tears big one. Not cry your mom. No, not exactly crocodile tears. But there were definitely some tears, Mike. Why? Yesterday, Stu gods learned that on Monday. Around the horn will increase its ratings by pudding stew gone on around the horn. He has wanted to do this for many many years. Billy. What's matter, Billy? I'm a little disappointed him. I'm not gonna lie. I feel like you should've taken a stand. They didn't want you when you're an up and comer. And now they want you for the ratings boost you should've told him. I'm stugatz kick rock kick rocks. But it pays. Yeah. He he's not gonna take a prideful stand that you heard. He got emotional when he finally got the call up to the Cup of coffee in the big leagues. He's not going to decline the dollars, and the television appearance that would require having a degree of pride. But I don't know if this is a one show appearance. I'm not certain Matz. An exactly what's going on. I did get the call that. I got a text Tony reality. That was very nice. I'm not certain if we do anything past Monday. But all I know is I'm on that show on Monday, and I'm excited for it. I'm excited to do it. Why you wanna hurt me? I haven't delighted this hard in a while on controllable delight why you want at me. Congratulations to Stu gods. I do. I was hoping that on behalf of the show. We would have to take a stand against around the horn. Like, we did that day that you made me kick that executives kids out of here because of all of the bed feelings we had. Wait what I wasn't supposed to say that. What do you do? I mean because they denied you around the horn so many times. Hey, kids, come down. Been on yet. You could save that for Tuesday already looking forward to a mean appearing in the club tomorrow. Girl who brings their kids out after denying your parents after apparent for how many years why you want to hit me. I would have then they were all hurt because I kicked him out of here. I now want a mean as a ringtone or notification sound on my phone. How do we make this happen? People are just trolling you. Now, you realize this, right? No, chris. I'm sorry. I played to the crowd. That's what I do. That's part of karaoke. He's being an entertainer. Jason jackson. Can we could find the fake Jason Jackson? Who's always good in these situations. See if he's got anything for us. Jason should we get Jason Jackson on? I want to hear more about this carry. Okay. Leo because I've never heard of such a thing. But I'd rather get the fake Jason Jackson on if account they winning their Carioca league. They cannot be winning with that performance by me. No Hacen who showed up today hung over because of all the karaoke. Did I wanna ask him in if they're winning? But of course, this response is going to be yes dominating uncontrollable, delight. Why you want to hit me? Let's try and get Jason Jackson the phone. Let's update our tournament here. Mike I want to update our tournament because we've got games going on tonight and we have fallen woefully behind in. Our looks like tournament. Do you wanna do? Do you want to do the games today? Mike you wanna do some of the NIT round to losers, which do you want to do? Let's go with some game tonight. All right. So tonight, Gonzaga, the only team this year to beat Duke when Duke was fully healthy represented by Tim Kirk chin looks like the jockey of a horse named Canna corn owned by Scott van pelt a worthy number one. See both Van Horn van pelt and Kirk and like it that's against number four F issued a lot of people think if as you Leonard Hamilton and dim boys FSU is good. What is represented by Jackie MacMullan looks like the substitute teacher that says I'll wait, and then doesn't talk until the class quiets down. It really does. Tennessee. This is a good one probably should have been a one seed Tennessee represented by Sam darnold looks like nickel. Policemen playing against Purdue. Trains room, the great. Time for Nostra Daniel. In Tennessee the land of Valls the impostor lurks. Their paper dolls the fall is hard. For you know, who. All of your ranches are on Purdue. Great one spoke. Nick. I love it. Purdue was represented by all the ranches on Purdue. Jeff Fisher looks like one of those guys who always has one be remaining out of a six pack and he's holding up by one of those plastic rings from the previous beer, though. That's Daniel Baldwin one of the Baldwin brothers. I don't know which one the fat one. I think the fifth one I think predicts the Purdue will win tonight bet all the ranches on it. Jason Jackson joins us. Now, ESPN radio I need to know more information as much as you can give us Jason. And thank you for being with us on this karaoke league that Amine is describing and I also wanna know how low he is in terms of draft picks in this karaoke league. It was presented as a leak if that that's the. Good team, right? First of all, it should be noted. I take something has to be noted that mean is a karaoke snob, by the way because he does have all these terms that have to be met. And there's a part of them that I started to move in a different direction when you all mounted all of your pitch forks, and you're torturing against him a little bit earlier that you just kinda just move the room. It does it doesn't matter. If you're great or if you're bad just moved the room now, sometimes I'll hit big band because I don't do stuff up in the high range. I can't do brutal and Kimberlake in all that Bieber. Nece, you know, so I gotta find stuff in my my keys, would you like would you like to move the room right now? Or are you willing to do this? If we get the song for you. I I don't mean the turn this into a Pano bar, by the way are all laughing at the television screen right now because you should see over men and to share a standing next Tim coaching and looks like a second grader. I mean, it's amazing. He looks like a second grader because those guys are. So are you willing to do? I put you in a bad spot. If I ask you to give us like how Jason Jackson is gonna make the move the room move when he comes into karaoke. And he says it's time to ball. I don't personally I'll stop it. Okay. That's not occur not occur house. I mean, people take the microphone saying is. Wrong with you, people know Ascott or got off what happens there? Got all of trouble almost hit you with a line should never sale. But but it is an it's an uncle Luke lyric about mascots. But anyway. Back to you Erica, Tony. Okay. Alikhan even call me. These aim free. Let the talk and he loves the almost as much as Billy a mean as an angel. Let your voice be free. Knock it off. Apologize. Jason Jackson because there were so rude to it with why you want to me, your karaoke performance should be the only thing playing on the club tomorrow. Donlevatar? Did you know that Jose could Seko's finger fell off during a poker game. We did a good show today, man. Sixty eight percent of the audience said. So we got to. Is that all job is ducks to God's that? That's a quality program. We put together job everyone. These live at our show with this two guys on ESPN radio. Got some polls from today and from yesterday to update amino has is broken. He's hung over. He doesn't look good. He looks a little bit ill and green many textures are writing in complaining that we would have the audacity to lazily play an interview with action Bronson instead of feeding your daily addiction immediately in better than that. And I would just say to I'm supposed to be off today. And I'm here working for you for free. Stop calling me lazy until you've taken a day off and works not for free. Actually part of the contract that he signed over the summer. I was in the room. This is a radio show that was coming in. Yes. We know. I'm not supposed to be here today. I'm not supposed to be here today. Four three. I kinda tried Bank. You Dan, you, Dan? Thanks, dan. I wasn't talking to you guys. I'm talking to all the entitled complainers won't allow us to play taped interview with action Bronson because it's not good enough wolf entitled complainers wanted makes happy sessions than on podcast on apple podcast. I wouldn't be trying to expand my audience here by playing it on the biggest most powerful radio show in America. Find south beach sessions on your platform of choice. But I prefer apple podcast because they have the cool little rankings and boosts south each session. At lebatardshow on Twitter and Instagram. Go ahead and give the people updates on yesterday. And today, Stu got have you ever wondered why the F what used an elephant as one of its logos? Seventy percent of the audience said yes is it rotisserie chicken delicious? Eighty eight percent of the audience said yes, it is. Is the cellphone break for the players or is it for cliff Kingsbury ninety one percent of the audience that Kingsbury. You all calls numbers. You don't recognize ninety percent of the audience said, yes, if you take one step in Kyle Farnsworth direction. Does he take five steps in your direction? Ninety one percent of the audience said, yes. Do you know why Joe Jackson shoeless seventy nine percent of the audience said, no, what is a better nickname for a teammate of mortar guy three finger branches realize we did this yesterday. Let's go ahead. And update today's polls we ended up doing this yesterday while you were call screening it took me about ten polls into realize that we were doing it from yesterday. A mean is are updated though, I mean out Ferguson thirty five percents. We move out today. Thank you. Thanks for coming in again as Billy's entire life. They run on sentence. I believe we have our selves record or at least tied for the record on Paul's ninety eight percent of the audience said, yes. Allison, ripping billet would mortar guy three finger Bram be named three finger in two thousand nineteen sixty percent of the audience said, no, what's the better name bear Grylls or action Bronson grills. I know fifty four percent of the audience at bear Grylls. Would you watch the season long show a bear Grylls traveling around the world with marshawn Lynch who wouldn't eighty five percent of the audience at? Yes when Jason Jackson shows up at your karaoke. Are you headed for a hangover? Ninety one percent of the audience said yet, those Alonzo Mourning do karaoke sixty three percent of the audience said no, did you know that? There are no karaoke that there are karaoke leagues. Ninety one percent of the audience said were you appalled? Eighty percent of the audience said. Yes, appalled by your singing voice and ever. You can listen to the Dan lebatardshow with the stugatz. Thank to one eastern on ESPN radio and you can wash on ESPN news.

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"And mystery in the last frontier with your host Robin Airfield in a land full of peril and vicious animals humans are the most dangerous from the Wilderness of Kodiak Island Alaska this is murder welcome to murder mystery in the last frontier racially charged insults at other students Paul never returned to school and became an insolent moody teenager he was arrested Shnell Bank of Anchorage the robbery was such a ridiculous crime it's laughable now to think about it only one road leads out of seward they might have hoped to turn their lives around but instead most brought their problems and psychopathic tendencies with them until Memorial Day we second category are either misfits who don't know how or don't want to blend in with others or they are criminals seeking to avoid arrest I five Paul and his family moved to seward Alaska not long after arriving in seward the principal expelled Paul from school for hurling snapped leaving two people dead and forever altering the course of staff in Your Life Alaska wilderness because they enjoy solitude and crave a subsistence lifestyle or because they wished to escape society people who fall into this I'm your host Robin Bear Field I'm broadcasting from the heart of the Kodiak National Wildlife Refuge on Kodiak Island in Alaska and hoping to disappear into the vast wilderness many of my episodes have dealt with individuals who ran to Alaska from a life of crime somewhere else chase through the streets of anchorage he was captured and incarcerated at the McLaughlin Youth Center in nineteen sixty eight L. stabbing yard endured a rough childhood I at the hands of an alcoholic father and then from his mother's to subsequent husbands in nineteen sixty and it's a forty mile spur road which runs south from the intersection on the seward highway and wines through the rugged Chew Gach Mountains soon after he was released from prison twenty year old Pasta Avenue Ord and his two friends decided to rob the seward branch of the first him one hundred and ninety dollars but he was soon arrested and sent back to jail by this time stabbing was addicted to heroin and used LSD again in nineteen ninety seven Paul seven yard seemed to have succeeded at escaping his criminal past but then something and six months after being released from the youth center staffing award brandished a gun and robbed a downtown Anchorage Liquor store the robbery net while serving time in an anchorage juvenile facility in one thousand nine hundred sixty six stabbing yard escaped stole a car and led police on a high speed five times in two years for breaking into cabins stealing a skiff and a car and for entering his girlfriend's house and stealing a gun the robbers knew they would never make their getaway vehicle because the police could easily set up a roadblock and intercept them before they reached the seward highway instead Stanford and his buddies hatched what to them must have seem like a brilliant escape scheme they plan to rob the bank and then blow up a stolen vehicle to create a diversion for the police while the police investigated the exploding car the thieves then plan to escape a Yukon River where he could tripe hunt and live in peace as soon as the trio robbed the bank they headed up mount marathon but keep on foot into the wilderness and hike over the mountains to the keanae peninsula stabbing your wanted to take his share of the loot and settle near the they were unprepared for the steep rugged terrain and they had no idea one hundred and fifty thousand dollars there hall in the Robbery Wade more than forty pounds the three men ended up stashing their loot in an alder thicket implant to return for it later unfortunately for them their escape did not go unnoticed and police pursuing them recover the money and returned it to the bank even without the money weighing them local citizens scoured the wilderness searching for the trio three days after the bank robbery Paul stabbing yard staggered down the robbers found the mountain trail too difficult and decided to return to seward an attempt to blend in with the other residents they split up thinking that this would make them more difficult to track by this time though a Posse of twenty five FBI agents Alaska State troopers seward police and underbrush fifty feet from the seward police chief who was parked beside a roadblock stabbing your failed to see the chiefs police cruiser probation from the federal penetentiary in Lompoc California in nineteen seventy five after serving time for the bank heist stabbing yard her when he stepped out onto the highway and the police chief arrested him without incident stabbing yards two cohorts were captured at a sewer diner vowed to turn his life around and go straight he took a job with the Alaska Railroad repairing and inspecting tracks and he worked for the railroad well they ate chilli all three men were convicted of armed bank robbery and sentenced to six years in prison stabbing yard was released on in an ivory bone and antlers he sold his craft work to souvenir shops and at the Alaska for rendezvous stabbing you're not only in years stabbing yard supplemented his railroad salary by casting small pewter animals and buttons carving flutes and doing scrimshaw works in his children's lives and stay out of trouble for the next twenty years stabbing your loved the region near Joo Latina a wilderness area and railroad stop forty mutation with the outside world peggy filed for divorce in nineteen ninety one but she and Paul remained friends and Paul played a large role carved flutes but became skilled at playing and writing music for the flute Paul and his wife Peggy had a son in nineteen eighty four but nineteen ninety-one Peggy had grown tired of the frontier lifestyle with no electricity no running water no plumbing and no tours of duty in Vietnam in nineteen ninety seven rick worked as an electrician and lived in Big Lake in the Matinees Cavalier north of Anchorage doc was forty eight years old debbie re Hor grew up in Denver she married young had a son divorced and moved to Wa- Silla Alaska House north of talk heat Nah he met and married a waitress for the railroad and they had a daughter and build a cabin near Chula where they lived for eleven to be near her brother daunted well Debbie was forty years old and worked in customer service for the Matt New Ska Electric Association Ninety Five Debbie Rick shared a home in big lake but their dream when they retired was to move to their second home a large cabin into Rick Berry was born and grew up in Alaska leaving only when he served in the US Navy for two Latina built on land homesteaded by Rick's father both Rick and Debbie loved the outdoors and looked forward to spending the retirement years rick swore he would never get married but he fell hard for Debbie and they soon became a couple after living together eight years they married in Nineteen Debbie parked off the road near the parks highway where wreck met her on his four wheeler and they headed toward their cabin for quiet weekend is a whistle-stop for the Alaska railroad once a day a train travels this remote stretch of Rural Alaska halting at predetermined before returning it rick also suspected stabbing yard of taking a snow machine and a twenty two caliber rifle from their cabin by rising water never leave them closed in the cabin tidwell worried perhaps ricken debbie ran into a bear or got stuck on the other side of the river her nearest neighbor approximately one mile from their cabin was Paul stabbed Njord Rick and Debbie had an uneasy relationship with stabbing yard is obviously not eaten in some time Don knew something bad must have happened to his sister and brother-in-law they love their dogs and L. Day weekend nineteen ninety seven at their cabin rick headed to the Cabinet Day early and Debbie followed on Friday after she got off work in quiet secluded Chula for now though they escaped to their dream cabin every chance they got to let is not a town a. and traveled the remaining miles on a four wheeler all-terrain vehicle rick and Debbie's cabin sat eight miles from the parks highway nick who was a big man with a hot temper confronted stabbing yard but they did not resolve their issues rick and Debbie decided to spend memorial. Debbie's boss contacted Debbie's brother Don tidwell and alarm bells immediately sounded in Dawn's head he rushed to rick and Debbie remote ops when the engineers hailed by people standing beside the tracks the only other way to access a remote cabin in Chula DNA is to park a vehicle near the parks highway cabin in two hundred feet from his four wheeler rick had been shot in the head execution style at point blank range authorities found both rick and Debbie planned to return to their jobs on Tuesday and when neither of them showed up for work their bosses and Co workers found their absences curious to a cable which was not part of the deal rick told stabbing yard he wanted fifty dollars for the cable and stabbing yard cut the cable into Pieces Alaska State troopers and reported rick and Debbie missing the troops responded immediately and discovered Rick Spotty in a creek two miles from his who they suspected of stealing fuel from their cabin when Rick Sold Davin Yard a cellular telephone antenna stabbing your helped himself tidwell walked to stab in yards cabin and asked Paul if he had seen rick and Debbie stabbing your told Ted well he and Rick had argued and they had not spoken in over a year tidwell said he picked up a strange vibe from St Avenue Award and quickly had done something to rick and Debbie and he did not plan to be his next victim on Wednesday morning daunted well contacted the would never harm Rick and dawn feared his sister had met the same fate as rick electrical workers installing fiber optic cables along the railroad track Litany area he said he saw the four wheeler in the creek and pulled it out helping himself to a soft drink and some gum stashed in a bag on the four wheeler x told troopers they noticed rix four wheeler partially in the creek on Saturday and it was still there on Sunday when they passed by the area no sign of Debbie and her four wheeler so she became a preliminary suspect in Rick's murder Debbie's brother and friends assured troopers Debbie and quickly turned to see Stanford following him down the trail tidwell asked the other man what he was doing and stabbed Njord said he decided troopers immediately suspected saw of murdering rick but where was Debbie a week after Rick's body was discovered trooper join in the search for Rick and Debbie Ted Wealth felt certain stabbing your knew more about Rick and Debbie's disappearance then he admitted the spot where the troopers found Rick Spotty Twenty one year old Gavin saw called troopers and said he'd camped over the weekend in the when Ted Wells returned to rick and Debbie's cabin that night he huddled toward the rear of the cabin with his gun in his lap he suspect as Paul Stabbing Yard again on Tuesday though the four wheeler had been pulled out onto dry land the electrons also mentioned seeing a reason campsite near thanked him and left the cabin as tidwell continued down the trail to search for his sister and brother-in-law he heard a noise in the brush behind him left his cabin he disappeared after stabbing yard provided his DNA sample and left his cabin railroad workers reported breath DNA from semen found on her body did not match Gavin saw house DNA ruling him out as the perpetrator ATV DNA test results confirmed the sample from the saliva in Paul stabbing yards mouth matched the semen collected from Debbie's body troopers obtained warrants charging stabbing yard with the first degree murders of Rick Berry and Debbie. I FOUND DEBBIE RE Horse Body. She was downstream from Rick and her body was partially covered with grass and tree limbs she was naked from the trooper searched stabbing yards cabin four wheeler into a bridge and then run into the woods when the troopers examined the red four wheeler they knew they'd found Debbie's missing waist down Debbie also had a bullet hole in her head and an autopsy revealed she had been subjected to rough sex around the time of her death he said she then called her husband at seven thirty pm to tell him she would be late unfortunately for stabbing yard Debbie's phone records but he claimed he never saw Rick's body troopers determined saw had pitched his tent and slept only yards from Rick's corpse good seeing him walking along the tracks he had shaved his beard and mustache a railroad security guard sauced avenue crash a red but as a designated wilderness area forty miles north of the small town of talk no no roads lead to chew magna but it is he refused they obtained a court order for his DNA stabbing you're allowed a trooper to swap his mouth for DNA but soon after the trooper who led a cabin to check on him when he arrived he found their two dogs in the cabin the dogs had gone to the bathroom in the cabin and Paul's Davin your told authorities he went to fairbanks for the Memorial Day weekend even providing troops with details of restaurants where he ate and scouring the wilderness near Jelena for Paul Stabbing Yard Op Criminal Defense Attorney in Alaska to defend Paul good res- immediately issued a plea asking stabbing your to surrender and found what they believed was a script stabbing your plan to memorize to tell the police if they arrested him he wrote that he ran into Debbie well on a walk on Friday afternoon before Memorial Day he charmed Debbie by playing his flute and said they had a romantic sexual encounter at the places where he claimed he'd stopped on his trip to fairbanks but Gavin saw recalled seeing smoke curl out of the stack on stabbing your establishments where he stopped to get gas on his travels when troopers followed up though nothing checked out not only did no one remember seeing stabbed showed she placed no calls on Friday evening. 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We're Talking About Practice

PTI

21:55 min | 2 years ago

We're Talking About Practice

"New rupture, but I'm Mike wilbon is national love your hair day. Tony, say something nice about your air. Tony, Kornheiser side stay loyal to loyal at the world we're looking for. So nobody's going to know what you were laughing at before we did this show and we had the plus that open and no one's going to know about your family history. No one's gonna know all the good things unless somehow we can just bootleg that tape out there, but just those away forever. That would be very funny. Gonna PTI boys and girls will get the Jimmy Butler returning the practice. I own you GM. But we begin today with the controversial issue of how long CC Sobat was allowed to pitch last night. The veteran Yankee starting us twenty pitches to get out of a basis loaded jam in the first inning. By the third inning, Sebastian was on his way to fifty nine pitches when he gave up run-scoring hits to Ian Kim's, learn at water Nunez in just three innings. Abacha gave up two walks and five hits will bond it, Aaron. Who leave him into long. No, not for me, but I don't judge these say these things the same way that new wave baseball devoted to numbers people judge them. I'm shocked even when pitchers are completely effective and they come out after seventy pitches have given up nothing. So no, not to me now. I thought that the Yankee hitters primary re. This. Okay. That's another one. That's right. But no, I'm gonna blame guys like Jean Carlos Stanton, not not that I'm not gonna blame the pitching or the decision to leave him in less or longer. I'm not gonna blame me. I'm not. I'm not going to bury cease Abacha for variety of reasons. He has the second most wins of any active pitcher. One behind Bartolo Cologne Oklahoma's active. He's four. Yes, he is. He's forty two ahead of Justin Verlander who we like a lot sixty. Nine ahead boy, John Lester who loved eighty seven ahead of match sherzer who I love the Aaron Boone. I think I can Williams specked CC Sobat to give me five innings and I'm not yanking him at by the way. Let me say this when he comes out it's three, nothing. It's not sixteen nothing. It's three, nothing. They have the of seven more full at back innings make it up. I agree with you, but you know when you can't make it up with Jian Carlos Stanton making a billion dollars week, whatever. He's getting goes after Lee's fifth team. Eighteen runners stranded during the series by not in this one game fifteen in a series hidden. Do anything last night either. So no, you can't just look at pitching and say, oh, he's given up three rough. We gotta get member to remember when Sobat was pitching for Milwaukee and came to Milwaukee right around the all star and went eleven two in the second half the season. He pitched Milwaukee into this thing. Yeah. But as shack would say, twenty thirty eight bro because it was ten years. The Yankees look at what happened at home, losing two games, huge appointed going. Get your boy. Bryce Harper. Do they look at their lineup and say, we're flawed. We need a guy like that. I don't think they're flawed, but that's a great addition. The flawed, leaving all those runners on base lose into at home. Of course, the Yankees wind afterward. See Sobat the rift in the home plate on pyre angel Hernandez who doubles most of the time as a punching bag for major league baseball players. Let's listen. Ages should be up and playoff games. He's absolutely terrible, terrible. Today's terrible first base, it's amazing that how he's getting the job, the pitching into play these two Pyrenees in these playoffs. Tony, you gave three runs over and five hits over those three innings. As you mentioned last night, is this complete legit or given the result? Doesn't it sound just like sour grapes? You think sa- bath just took a shot at angel Hernandez, don't you? Yeah, it was a big shot. Yeah. Let me tell you what report seller because he was the pitcher who angel Hernandez was also calling balls and strikes for, but he was pitching for Boston. This is a direct quote, throw the ball over the plate CC you gotta throw the ball over the white part of the plate, and then you get a strike called that is a shot. I will say this, it sounds like sour grapes, but CC Subekti is history with angel Hernandez? Is this in games? Good history. It's very good. Bob Gibson on the place Rian one, one, four, five zero. So that seems to me to say that it's not quite sour grapes. I mean he was looking into even the first batter he was looking for the high outside striking getting. It was like, one picks that everybody would agree was incorrectly. Called in terms of balls and strikes Hernandez Sobat the on the male. So this is when you lose like this, I understand is particularly difficult for the Yankees to lose at home to the red sooner. But you know what? If you wanna walk by the locker room plan, New York, New York from Sinatra now, no, don't do it if you wanna do that, then live with the result when you get your butts humiliate, you know what they were humiliate. What team in place for now plays for Boston? Yeah. A couple years ago in Kizer said, I'm amazed. This guy has a job the other night killing first base like I not to play the three calls versed at first awful night. Discrimination suit out there, Tony, but also baseball has allowed him to to unpire and all star game a couple of playoffs last year. And now this year, Pedro Martinez quote is on TV tonight. It doesn't matter how many times he sues baseball. He's bad as there is. Okay. So now we look forward instead of backwards. Take off the glasses. I can read a prompt or the Red Sox leave the Bronx. They go home to face the Houston Astros only the Red Sox with one hundred eight wins had more victories than the hundred three for Houston. This is the second largest amount of wins for two teams facing each other in the playoffs ever will bond who should be favored. I would think that this would be called. I'm not a Vegas guy like, you know, because we should be favored. You go with betting. I don't seem. I'm gonna go to team with the starting pitching and the starting pitching as far as I'm concerned. I know Boston look good because if sale has one good star for the Red Sox in the next series, they will be tough to beat, has to good starts. They're going to win the seer. But I'm going with Houston because of their starting pitching and what I see is vantage and that's fair. So you pick you think they should be famous? Yes. I actually, I think you said is going to win. I think Boston should be favorite. Why? Because they won more games because they scored more runs than anybody in baseball, seventy nine more than Houston. Wait a minute. What was it? Houston's run differential better. I didn't say that scored more bigger offense. You got a big presumptive MVP's going to be deaf, Martinez and win sale was healthy when he was the best picture. So let's get to the second pitcher who's gonna start David price. What? Why is he starting? He's fine. As opposed. Why's he starting hunch manages usefully hunches. They used to not turn to their general managers who had some lackey in the dugout with the computer that tell them who to start chorus plan. A hunch, I would you play a hunch on a guy was only nine in the post that was team was Owen Jaas. For twenty five years in dugouts with managers, some whom are in the hall of fame and they sometimes played punches. That seems out of nowhere even San half of the more actually insane as a relief in the postseason is good. This guy against us as a reliever last year in postseason six and two thirds and no Ryan, you can pitch them almost every game. Why wouldn't that. Joe, you start for selling, you start, you've all the, that's what you do. That's how he's doing. That's what I do. So since he's going to start at least one game, I don't you think the Astros will win in that case, light him up. Do you listen to the show listen to you and you listen to me, speaking of, we have more than Jimmy Butler update today that excites, you know, we got Jimmy Butler news with nobody particularly close to completing the deal for Butler. The timber wolves all-star showed up in practice today practice according to, whoa, JR with spirit. And even some shipping this word is he dominated practice. And at one point scream to GM, Scott Layden quote, you need me. You can't bleep in win without me close quote sink Tony. Is this make things better or worse for the t. wolves. Short-term today tomorrow short term much better, infinitely better. If I'm the GM if I'm Scott Layden and I got Jimmy Butler. First of all, I didn't wanna trade. James Butler, Jimmy Butler water to train Jimmy Butler. So if I'm Scott late and he wants to yell at me, I sit in a different room. It's okay. He's in the same room so he can't hear what he does. I got him on the court. Now down the road is possible that the relationship with Karl Anthony towns and Andrew Wiggins will Fisher to such a degree that something will have to be done. But short term, my coaches happy. My GM is happy and I'm getting on the court, and my anger is making me happy my position from moment. One of the story was you keep Jimmy Butler player. He's the best player on the team. He might be the second best player in the history of the team after Kevin Garnett. 'cause after kindergarten it left, they didn't get a sniff of the playoffs four forever. They were third in the packed with with Jimmy Butler featured in that light of love, but they make the play again, not they are better off and if he wants to jump on Karl Anthony towns to Andrew wig, what that. Does it stops Tim's from having to do it and Tony after let me ask you something you Jimmy bullet to possibly be as tough on teammates. Oh, say Kobe Bryant be in that category with Larry Bird. He could be Michael. Jordan could be, but you know, but in order to be that with to win, here's a what if that level, he's got a twenty million dollar contract and you wanna say, just play just played with them later. You just practice. Okay. So the next question is he's at practice because he wants to keep the clock movement on his free angels. Okay. Do you think he stays there all year? Maybe that depends on depends on the team. If they go up to third again in the jam-packed west, and you get the results Wiggins and Karl Anthony towns, even if they're uncomfortable in town, sign a long term extension reality. Okay. So he's staying? Okay. So was it so if you wanna get on them, Larry Bird got on Kevin Mikhail Kevin McHale better or not as good as Karl Anthony towns slightly better by these much. You know, there's no hidden. There's no institutional memory when it comes to this stuff. This last story is admittedly a small story, but it is important because it tests the limits of what is fair and what is not. We're going to show you this. James harden play from last night. Watch this play. We're going to show it to you lot. Watch it again. This was not called traveling on the floor even though hardened clearly takes a bunch of steps without dribbling. The NBA says he was gathering. I, what was he? What was he gathering? I say he was walking, we'll what do you say? Not a travel? I don't wanna see. You call the travel even if it's at a travel, the rules were rewritten. I think I wanna see in two thousand nine or ten, but they were rewritten realatively recently to allow for this. He's getting up at three point shot. I understand your boy, Rick berry. Didn't have that opportunity, but you know what Larry burns did they have. Jordan of your life. Julius Erving somebody Julius never took the extra step to the best. Never stopped. Never tell me client braver never, never. Never. They played under the rules of basketball. So he gathered a bunny steps. This is an adult silver favoring the players dated star. The result of this James harden now will be able to get off shots anywhere on the court. Can you get them off in June and he will still in the fourth quarter of off game score. No point I just ask and that's going to show me that that's a waste of our time. You want Steph curry, getting it blocked or you want to see him getting it off. You wanna see Klay Thompson who doesn't even do that by the way. Stop with that. Get that video out of here. Does that very good video. Does shows the distilled not gonna call this chin, the foundation of basketball that you will sit raise. Okay. To call coming up past the. Really feel about Tom Brady Ross. You want answers. Defend your quarterback facing gear? Is he worried about getting fire gonna, ask version of role plays. Don't you want? Are you a defensive guy not hit the quarterback? No, no, no. What about in the NBA quarterback? What about the one. One important position in one fence in the NFL. Okay, good. That's bringing unbelievably Higgins Bray. You can call as Gavin loved playing football. He lived in briefed it wanted to go clo- when he'd spent hours upon hours. Just his touchdown at one day. Well, getting goals, he realized he was never much good at throwing or running or catching, nor even kicking. Yeah, Gavin's chances of playing football. We're looking like fourth and long very long, but he did hear how DIKO could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved. Then he did kind of touchdown debts, at least he was still good at that. Feeling very frisky Dow. So let's do some role play. Mike, I will give I'll give and you will receive the spectacles on who am I? You are chiefs quarterback. Patrick. Mahomes. Yeah. You're playing Tom Brady on Sunday. What do you think of him? Let Tom Brady was Tom Brady. Great. He's a greatest player ever didn't you partner wilpon your calls in dub him? The golden who? Actually, I. We'll move on the show. Hey, an sound like you've just whispered is to you Tony because I don't want anybody here in this having any bulletin board material. Yeah, I love Tom Brady, he's home. He has old. He's he's in the seventies right from the seventies. He's in a museum? Yeah, he's, he's in these artifacts always either screaming at his own lineman or point to the official Chelsea's doing all the time. He's also getting rings all the time, but he can't, oh, he cannot like that. Can move like that he running throw on the run any move on Jagger. Is that what you maybe or western Patrick at the end of the game? Truthfully, don't you wanna go up to him and get his autograph because he's the greatest right up to him selfie with the golden boy, you'd think his wife will be there. You are. Cowboys head coach, Jason Garrett, don't you think you could get fired or think I could get fired? I used to think that I would get fired after every game. Certainly after losses, I thought I would get fired. I've been here more than eight years. I have one one playoff game. I think Jerry would say, this is it. I went to Princeton. He went to Arkansas. We have nothing in common, but you know what I realize now I'm never going to get fired. If I he's not going to fire me. Why don't even have a game plan in bitch. The only thing I think about is when I'm I going to punt and what is he going to do about it does nothing I could take Dak Prescott Zeke Elliott out and I can replace them with Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani and that old goat wouldn't fire me. I'll leave that lasts clean the Hello them be here. I'm gonna be short chalice. That's how laws be here. If you lose Sunday, what that here is you're gonna get fired. You're going. This is not gonna scape October. Ooh, you're giants quarterback, Eli manning, good old picture of Eli manning. Are you the problem with New York's offense? Let me just mentioned twenty. We talked up New York's office this team's in New York, and one of them belong sort of to you. You happy about this quarterback you in greenie, keep talking about this darnold guy. No, I don't ever talk about how to go for the last few guys. Mark Sanchez, Chad check, bad Tibo, bad Gino Smith, bad price, pin bad Christian hackenberg whoever he is Ed, Greg, McElroy, Ben Kellen Clemens. Why are we talking about the because why got ring they got to can stuff them in my ear is I couldn't even hear the booing going on giant stadium right now. Look, we've been in a slump for five, six years, maybe three years. What do you think he didn't want to see want him? He is Beckham Beckham's killing you. Yeah, you don't want him to, you know, he'll be cowed wrote as far as I'm concerned talking about Odell Beckham won't. They'll Beckham, you know, he goes out and puts one hand up and I hit it because he's. Got stick him fine for the stick. Many in. We don't. I'm I was a jet fan Joan. I'm not like you boy, you're Washington head coach j. group. Now, how do you feel about the job you're doing with your team? Okay. I'm not gonna lie to you. We've had some bumps in the road. It's been tough. We got crushed in the war liens, but it could be worse how you see my brother's doing an Oakland, he's tanking. They paid him a hundred million dollars. He's got one when he's complaining. I don't have a pass brunt trading Khalil Mack. Hello? Hello. In my in my particular case, I got twice as many wins as him and I cost half the price. I am a bargain people in Washington. You got the right Gruden you know what? I'm like. I'm value added. I'm like, I'm like the buffet, golden corral. Don't cost a lot of. A lot of feeding forever. Here's why you shouldn't be crossing your brother, loved my dad's soft landing place. When you get fired after this season, Jay, who's going to hire you, but not your brother doing very, very well. We've got to win this year against Green Bay. I was two weeks. Kiss you got, how does he have? He's got one. Have been easy enough role play a good for you. Let's take one last breath. It might Tomlin because it's like you're saying, they don't know you did. Mike Tomlin deserve a fine. But what he said about NFL officials complain now Jolan beat the big, shoot. He'll do pick sell sneakers Joel and be only two people who have sites nineteen feet checks, check souls for sneakers right to who people in the circus check has sized twenty feet this gas with big feet. No. Is that. That. People have the thirtieth birthday Lindvall Joe's. This is the three hundred thirty pound defensive tackle for the Minnesota Vikings who picked up a Carson Wentz fumble last Sunday and when sixty four yards for touchdown, there is nothing better than a fat guy rolling down the track in an NFL game and getting into the end zone untouched. And afterwards we got this great shot of the big man reaching for the oxygen mask needing oxygen at sea level in Philadelphia, read the weight. I think the purple people eaters didn't Alan page. We like a hundred pounds left. Yes, absolute hundred pounds and became a judge at the anniversary role Avantis on this day six years ago, Joe Girardi called on to pinch hit for the struggling ounce Rodriguez in the ninth inning game three in the AL DS responded with a home run to tie the game, and you followed it with a monster Ruthie shot to the second deck in the twelfth for the walk off victory over the Orioles. So if you're a rod, your fact that you were taking out for this guy, but this guy hit two homers. You've got the tip your hat. Did more than two wooden top steer the dugout. Did you want you watching the video? No, I was big hug, happy trails, Dwight Howard, the newly-acquired center for the Washington Wizards who has missed preseason games for slight back injury is expected to miss even more games at the start of the regular season next week for what is being described as a painful issue is buttocks. So he has what he is. He's living out his destiny. Don't you that got last when I did it herself. It upgrades the wizards of hundred thousand percent. Is he healthy right now? Apparently not. Do you see over on games for him this year I was hoping sixty now has seems like I may be bidding a little one error. Wilpon wondered if our Tolo Cologne was active. This year he made twenty four starts for the Rangers. Thanks for paying attention. Let's go to the ranger Mike Tomlin twenty-five launch for his criticism of the reps after Sunday's win over the falcons. Is that fair? Probably this is too much criticism now of the rifts and that roughing the passer Kilty just stop the Sanders. Son has offered to play football, Florida state best spot for a young Sanders. So that's what young play. So it might not be because he's. You know why? It's not as good as d. on line cook. Nobody was good as the, you know, why didn't have a hundred thousand sections. You do know why? Because they didn't flow at him for entire seasons because he's the best under armor signed. Joel MB can be mousse use, big guys don't usually move shoes, smaller guys, six under. So I'm to be just national predators, raised three banners for their home opener last night, but they didn't win the Cup, three bands. No listen people. They got the presidents trophy the central division champion and the Western Conference regular season where the, here's what you raise Stanley Cup winner, Stanley Cup by Earl, shut up empty. Your last one, the Golden Knights, visit the capitalist, Stanley Cup, rematch he got the cap. He's one of this. You wanna game. We'll trying to better the next time. I'm Tony Kornheiser. I'm Mike von same time tomorrow. Knuckleheads. You get the podcast on the app, apple podcasts. I'm going back on him being he's so charismatic. Maybe he can still shoes men to do and rose shout out. You were good partner, money money.

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What Is Electricity?

But Why: A Podcast for Curious Kids

24:41 min | 1 year ago

What Is Electricity?

"Hello but why lessner today's episode is a little bit different we recently answer questions about electricity in a live call in our on the radio on are home station vermont public radio today were bringing the first half of that program freer podcast feed we hope you enjoy it hello i'm jane lindholm normally vermont public radio listeners are you hearing vermont addition at this time of day but today we're gonna do something a little bit different today instead of vermont addition were bringing you a special live version of but why a podcast for curious kids vermont addition has graciously allowed vp are as kids show to occupy this our in case you're outside the age range of about three to eleven and you're not deeply familiar with but why we take questions from kids all over the world on anything they're curious about and my co producer milady bo debt and i help find answers we've been making this program for more than three years now and in that time we've gotten nearly five thousand questions from kids in all fifty states and more than fifty countries and we have made episodes on everything from how babies are made to why flamingos stand on one foot to who invented entity idea of a president did they were going to focus on an area that perhaps not only kids have questions about electricity we've been getting a lot of audio files from kids like this one from five year old is he lives in new york amy how they didn't know how much you think it may have you may crack my name is mitchell at five years old and islanders elsewhere sandiego and my question is how did he get made you also heard from june in portland oregon and look in chino california there and those are just four of the many more questions we've gotten as many as eighty came in before we even solicited questions for this show so today we're going to spend the whole hour learning more about how electricity works how it moves through wires how it powers tv's in cars and light bulbs in more sitting across from me at the studio table is our guest worthy our his name is paul hines and he's an electrical engineer and a professor at the university of vermont so he thinks a lot about electricity even started a company called packet ties energy fine thank you for being are guide to all things electric today are really excited be here this is what i'm really excited to hear too because i have to admit i don't totally understand electricity so let's actually start at the beginning with some of our questions time my name is julie i'm and i love in memphis tennessee won its electricity no i living reading and yet why should be made of all right and here's a question from axel mining back you know i live in la county fire last night cracking me lego will track comes all right but here's one that's phrased slightly differently lightning is he arrived i guess i'm seven years old i come to california sacramento in my question is to creating electricity i'm sixty years old i'm from pennsylvania my question alad electric in that all right here's just one more way to think about it before we don't even know sorry coming in from clinton i think he's gonna come back hi years old i love the new jersey how our chesini were all right there you gotta paul so the questions are what's electricity where did that come from and how does it actually work well the amazing thing about electricity is that no one invented electricity is everywhere electricity is just the flow of electrons electrons are one of the the basic building blocks of the universe so everything that is were working with this balloon and everything i've got here all of these things are made of three basic particles neutrons protons and electrons and a whenever those electron start moving that electricity all right so so whenever these pieces are moving that's what electricity is so you said nobody invented that we did have questions about that from eliza in sacramento california and mason in pennsylvania who wanna know who invented electricity and nobody invented lando one event electricity is really discovered it was just something that exists and you know honestly we've always known that electricity is here because lightening we had a big lightning storm here in vermont yesterday and we saw a whole bunch of electricity hopping out of the clouds and hitting the ground and it's loud and it's bright and all of that loud and bright is energy and so win electrons flow that's the flow of energy just like when you've got your pumping into your car it's a flow flow of energy and so 'em electricity is a flow of energy it's a flow of stuff but we called charge and so it's just like basically energy moving around okay energy moving around i think i understand you but i i am gonna ask you this question because you know we talk about how we use electricity how we run it but you mentioned these things electrons neutrons protons here is an elemental question mind jelly i am eight years old i come from london england loans my question is why trump has made deals so you said electron the what are electrons that's actually a really great question and we don't really know i mean electrons as far as we are really made of anything they are just a basic building block of the universe and a and we know that they move around we know some things about what they do 'em but we don't exactly know what they are they're just a things that have charge and 'em and said yeah they exist everywhere but we're not quite sure exactly what they are well that's not helpful it's a great question because it's a question that scientists haven't actually completely resolve yet but it's sort of fundamental to the the earth end to who we are as being alive is that you know these are just things that are out there it's part of what makes the world the way it is everything everything runs electricity is everywhere and without electrons we wouldn't exist all right so speaking of electricity being being everywhere some of our listeners have noticed that and they're curious about it my neighbors accident from san francisco and i four years old split is that grow up and become forums i changed i'm five years so i love in malaysia air and my question is why sometimes when i touch my mom i get the feeling of is shop i'm old and from wisconsin and i am ten years old and my question is why do we get static shocked when we touch people on the slider carpet all right so you said electricity is everywhere in you know a lot of us have noticed said sometimes when we catch people especially if we've been walking around on the carpet it's like so what a static electricity so static electricity is just when there's more electrons and protons and something and so i've got this balloon here maybe you could hear it rub it on my head so when i rub this balloon on my head it starts to build are harris picking up my hair's thicken up and what's happening is that the electrons mood between the the the my head in the balloon and so now a electron the protests kind of like the media they're good friends they wanna match up with one another and so if there's not a good balance between electrons in the pro times they'll they'll try to like jump between one another and actually this is what happens with lightning so the clouds rub on on the a rub on the earth surface a little bit just like the balloons rubbing on my head and as a result the the electrons build up in the clouds and they wanna jump back to the earth 'em end so that jumping of electricity is actually static electricity moving between one place in another you don't really feel static electricity until it moves when you when it when you get that little shock a that's when the static electricity is moving between one place in another but it's it's always there's little imbalances between the electrons and the protons and when they when they move you feel so when you're harris china get back to the balloon you here sir sticking up kinda like reach out to the balloon that's because it's trying to jump it's trying to get that charge yeah because because there's there's more electrons and protons and the blue in my head and so they wanna kind of match up with their friends again as so they're they're attracted to one another pulling against a to get back home and so when i touch somebody whether i'm doing it by mistake or doing it to be a little bit sneaky in miss domestic catch then give them that shock and then there's that shock then the charges dissipated where where do they go so the charges basically go back home they go back to their places so all adams have a balance or normal adams have a balance between these protons positive chargers electrons negative charges and so when you rub things together sometimes that a balance gets messed up but then when the sean happens the ballots kind of goes back to normal and so they basically they go back home okay all right so now that we know a little bit and we're gonna continue talking about this but a little bit about how electricity is sort of out there in the world let's talk a little bit about how it's generated my name is forty five years old and i love is let's say that two of eight hi my name is scott sam's six years old i lives in johannesburg south africa hi my name you in like i lemon clam lay major league by dog and they let you know that gap for no color when you have made their selfie at i five is all i ever got castle i guess hello my name is ruby i'm five years old i comes from naperville original question is how instead electrician get made before it goes here house in paul before we have you answer how electricity is made let's go to will who's calling again from milwaukee wisconsin will high high you have a question about electricity yeah go for it tell us what it is my on sean yet my name is five yeah so i'm like why is a how electric teammates will great question okay so everybody's wondering how he's electricity may now we know that it's out there in the world but we also make a lot of electricity because we need it for a lot of things so how is electricity made paul nine yes that's a great question will andrew being everyone all these kids have really great question so how electricity when what's interesting about same electricity isn't really made 'cause it's always exist and everything looks like we talked about it's just that we have certain ways that we figured out how to get it to move move in the right directions and so the way that we do it is by combinations nations of wires and magnet so i got to magnets here and when they're attracted together they snap you can kind of hear it a pulled together holy i wanna be really good friend yeah but one of the really amazing things about magnet is that when you move magnet across the wire the electricity in that wires starts the moves electrons believe it's coppers the coppers are basically hold onto it electrons very loosely in so they like to move around a lot and so if i start moving these magnets on the wire or electricity moves electron start to move and so if i connect a light bulb to that wire when i'm moving the main around i could actually see it work i could see the light turn on and so what's really cool about that is that we could use that idea moving magnets around wires or moving the wires across a magnet andy get electricity the flow and so if you go to a big power plant like a hydro station where the water is rushing through and it's turning a giant turban all that's really happening is that there you're turning a bunch of wires past magnets and as a result electricity starts the flow and weaken runner radios and and tv stations and radio stations it's great weight so paul you're telling me that we don't ever actually make electricity all the electricity that's out there is already out there in the world and were just sort of harnessing it for not making it that's it a little actress is always there all we do is is moving around in ways that are useful for us so when we say like oh we've got a big power plant here and it's a nuclear power plant or we have solar panels or were harnessing the power of the river coming electricity what is happening well he think about like a let's think about water so when we a when you turn on the tap a the water system isn't actually making water all it's doing just moving water like from the lake up to a storage tank and then down to your house and then it moves through the training back to the system the same way with electricity so that power plant nuclear or hydro or winder solar whatever it is all it's doing is using one form of energy to pump that electricity around just like we would pump water around into our homes so when we talk about what we used to to make the electricity we do talk about power plant sometimes we talk about the sun you know we talk about win we'll talk about water alex who's five and lives in greensboro north carolina wants to know why don't we harvest electricity to run things like are cars and are batteries and our houses so why not why not use the the the lightning yeah i did i say electricity at metlife lecture city from lightning lightning lightning is amazing there is a ton of electricity inside of lightning and when it moves it moves incredibly fast and it makes a lot of light and a lot of sound but it disappears all really fast and so you know way less than a second it's gone and so lightning it's just like this enormous burst of of energy that disappears a super duper fast and it's like an explosion it's really hard taken explode you know big explosion and turn it into anything useful we we need to figure out how to make movable a electricity around more slowly in order to make it useful this is but why a podcast for curious kids in today were on vermont public radio talking about electricity and were taking questions from kids all over the world we're going to be back in one minute with more questions about electricity but first a message for adults listening supporter but why comes from the stern center for language and learning providing customized instruction comprehensive evaluations social learning programs end professional learning courses for educators celebrating thirty five years is a nonprofit it dedicated to helping children adolescents antidotes reach their potential because all great minds don't think alike stern center dot org i'm jane lindholm and this is but why podcast for curious kids we're taking over vermont additions broadcasts lot today to bring you a live version of but why answering questions from kids all over about electricity we university of vermont electrical engineering professor an entrepreneur paul lines with this helping to explain how electricity works and what it's made of how it gets into our tv's in cars and batteries let's go ari who's calling in from brookline massachusetts hi ari how old are you saying my question is how good electricity on my electric fence make the squirrels grad on we still are squirrels grabbing adding onto you're electric fence fence sorry yeah they are kinda oh icy all right so what about that paul oh that's a great question so squirrels will probably they're they're not necessarily attractive to electric fence but squirrels are just jumping they they love to move around we've got girls are backyard and her cat loves the chase them they move around sometimes they'll grow they might grab onto you're electric fence probably by accident but what's interesting is that you're body runs on electricity tricity to so if you grabbed onto electric fence would you should not do absolutely 'em then your muscles in your hands would tighten up because you're muscles run on electricity they they electric signals from your brain actually tell your muscles to a tense up and make a fist and so and so the school has the same things that we've got in her body there's electricity inside the squirrel and so when that grabs that electric fence the the the scrolls muscles get basically get confused and it might grab onto that wire and get stuck there and so it's it's that idea that the body runs electricity which is interesting we have electricity in her blood we do well if it runs through other parts of your body but yeah absolutely but to do so you've been talking about movement let me let me play for you a few questions that we have about how electricity moves from one place to another high some tariffs on your i five years old my question is how does a wreck trafton nicely no reason she lands in may not mean hell i am very tyco aig fx i really love california in my question is how did electra sandy soil so paul you mentioned that you can use the magnet on a wire you can move the electricity but were moving electricity over many many many many many miles in in a lot of cases so how do we make it move yeah we will electricity always a really would like to stay at rest you know the the the electricity in balloon doesn't really wanna jump into my head but if i rub it enough it'll it'll it'll have to move 'em end so it but it moves when a when there's basically a force pushing on it so when i wrote rubbed the balloon on my head it a there's so much energy that's kinda got moved between one place in another all those electrons wanna move back home and so they start to jump a eventually that's the same thing that happens with lightnings with the clouds rubbed across the sky the earth and then they eventually wants to jump and so this idea of like giving me electron extra energy a and then they want to jump is is kind of like the same way we pump water up hill and it wants go back down the hill so we've talked a little bit about what electricity is how it moves how humans don't really make it but we kind of harness said but how does electricity actually power things like a phone or a tv or toaster or refrigerator hi my name is laurie i'm eighty years old i lives in dublin ireland and i want to know how those electricity power of tv's smartphone mining sniffy an eyelash thing i in five years old how electricity power all to tickle things in our house oh i'm so then i miss sin shania and my question is how did that make trade could be powered by an anti is even more specific mining and by that time while accessible kind of try to do an that's good yvonne who's calling in from my chillier vermont on this question high bon hi my name is ron i in my mind i make my electricity howard tv vine great question and you're joining all these other kids from around the world who are wondering the same thing so paul hines how does electricity power our tv and stuff like that yeah of on and everybody this is these are great so a so electricity is really interesting because it only moves when you close make it into a circle and he closed the circuits when you plug your tv in in and you turn the tv on a you're tv will basically closed circuit make a circle of for that electricity and electricity will start moving around and then what you're tv let's let's talk about the tv in particular so the tv see you're tv screen is made up of all sorts of little teeny tiny lights a red lights and green lights and blue lights an you're tv tasty electricity an chooses which lights to turn on based on what's happening on the show and it's doing really really fast and it's constantly changing millions of little tiny lights in order to that you could see pictures it's probably also put in a little bit of sound so on their phone instead of the same idea all these little teeny tiny lightbulbs called the lapd's these are turning on and off show the image but they're also a producing some sand and the way the sound moves is that the electricity moved back and forth really really fast across a speaker or at least basically just a plate and in that movie air and by moving back and forth really really fast we get so out of things all right and listeners if you have not heard are episode about how podcasts are made you might wanna go listen to that because we actually talk in that episode a lot about how sound works and how sound travels and also how we get sound waves that are doing what paul just described and then hear them as voices music or other sounds we're gonna stop it right here for today but we will be back in two weeks with the rest of our electricity show thanks to our guest paul hines paul is a professor of electrical engineering at the university of vermont and he started a company called packet ties energy it focuses on the millions of small devices they get plugged to the power grid everyday if you're a curious kid and you have a question about anything having adult record it it's easy to do on a smartphone cynthia audio file to question at but why kids dot org which you're name where he lives and how old you are as well do question of course we'll do our best to get an answer for you in adults if you wanna know about but why events like this call in program for new 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Shape Of Zion

Highly Questionable

20:54 min | 1 year ago

Shape Of Zion

"I know I know I look like the poop emoji welcome to highly questionable. This is Meenakashi senior writer for all the places that he has Japan where the good journalism is done. What do you like on today's show Meena? He muttered under his breath. Another day another Laker story poppy is the UNI brow ride that the Lakers should be favorites in any he playoff series. We're not going to really do this to tennis. Are we after tennis that's we're GONNA just going to go to another Lakers store. Everything Davis who's never said anything interesting and all the time you've heard him. Talking publicly is now saying they should be favored in a playoff series even though they haven't played together and I would say you. Can you name any team. That's got to better players than the two they have. You can't name any that up three anymore. Can you name on the Nez too because against anybody I would like. They're two players. Tennis is fourth. I was actually so he's wrong. Technically the clippers are better than the Lakers. They have better shooting a better perimeter defense. They have much better death. They have better coaching but I'm within ETA. Certain point you see Lebron and you look at Anthony Davis and he is the best player the most talented guy he's ever played with. I know I'm saying that in Miami and lightning is gonNA come. Strike me through that window but it's true. It's hard to pick against those two guys it matter who's around them. I have to make the playoff does year washing the action. Both of them were action both of them were both of them. Were watching. Do you believe the Greek freak when he says there is no reason for him to one day. Leave the box. He also says he's at sixty percent of his true potential would suggest that he's going to go into one of those Lebron James Hibernation and come back with a different part of his game restructured because of the pain dean of knowing that Kawhi Leonard specifically did that to you he passed you for the championship and now it's time to take it back. What's interesting is when he becomes available? Everybody in the sport is GonNa want him and he does feel like a guy from everything he said said like he has no interest whatsoever in leaving Milwaukee however let them feel the pain of last year again next year because he doesn't have enough help and see if he feels the same way so the question was do we believe in when he says there's no reason for hint to ever leave. You've no there is a recent if they're not good enough that he's going to leave. The question is how good do they have to be right because they're still the best team or one of the best teams in a wide open east but looking around the league increasingly you're seeing these power duos close and his other half is Chris Middleton which doesn't feel great so even if they make it to the finals. I don't know if he's going to take that supermax because if there's one thing I've learned about the N._B._A.. Over the last couple years or so it's that these superstars they they don't care about making additional tens of millions of dollars they care about winning and if I'm the bucks I do whatever it takes to win now on a core chase him out of town shooting about what twenty six percent from beyond the art stay alive in the N._B._A.. With these gotTa do better that's right you gotta do better than do you know that statistic research he's impressed with that. Take believe taught he said that goes for concerned that coach K. said see on the worst two out of shape to Plane Sumer League Diane and summer were the words he was going for. I don't know why they came out that way. Zion look heavy the obviously heavy and we go from coach K. saying that he's a Gift From God Zion saying his goal is to become a gift from God to him looking like he's not in shape to play basketball. He's an unusual specimen but it shouldn't be surprising that after making the banquet celebration on his dream success that he would get a little fat and then spend summer league getting into shape so it is a cause for concern because it's really the only cause for concern right Zion's basically perfect on and off the court side from the sort of Jenky jump shot but his is is unprecedented. We have never seen a basketball player who looks like him. He looks more like a pass rusher than a power Ford and there's questions about what that will look like in five or ten years however we have seen him MHM gain weight before he's senior high school he was injured. He's out for a while and he did get a little thick with a few sees scouts notice and that's part of the reason why he was actually under height coming out of school then he lost it so we know he's capable of getting in shape. The question is how often is that's going to happen over the coming years because it could be a problem for the Pelicans. Can I say something to coach K. Schorr. Hey coach gay. If you WANNA see someone who is really out of shape you gotta come down here to Miami and check my son. Now he's really attache buddy in great shape they need my father is not telling untruths there. He sees Donnie thinking about number back above feather and Dow it has a D. At the beginning so I understand why he would do this. I am looking at the loser of that match and marveling more at him than I am a joke because the loser of that matches thirty seven years resolve there was no difference between those tennis players in terms of excellence yesterday the difference in their ages five years however fedor should not be able to do this so I don't look at Jovovich there as doing something more extraordinary than what Federer Federer's done so I was on a plane to Miami last night watching this match along with a lot of other people on the plane and there was one passenger who was passionately rooting for joke a bitch. I always wanted to take video them because it's like spotting a snow leopard in wild right because everybody and their mother was rooting for federal and of course Dan wants to talk about fedor. Even in the stadium felt like everyone was reading for federal the fact that Jovic overcame that is amazing that overcame the fact that federal actually scored more points than him amazing but no well. He's not a tier above him. He's getting there. He's five years younger only four majors back but at the moment their neck and neck the part of that match where he showed a strength that was uncommon and he's done this to federal before is when he was broken that match should would have been over and he broke him right back and that's why you got the length that you did and that's why you got people texting each other in a rare time and American tennis where your Sunday get swallowed and feels like nineteen seventy-nine again people texting each other get to your our telephones get to your televisions. You have to see what's going on at Wimbledon for five hours. Should the churches just let Melvin Gordon Walk much like the Clipper didn't trade all of that for Paul George they they traded it for Paul George and Kawhi Leonard The chargers have to take care of Melvin Gordon here instead of taking a hardline stance if they want to help with the aging of Philip rivers if you look at the difference in the numbers Philip Rivers when he's playing with Melvin Gordon and when he's he's not I understand why Melvin Gordon would say. I'm not playing for five million dollars a year. I also understand the why the chargers would say hey every time. A running back gets money in this league. He misses half the Games so they're at a stalemate. You can't just let a dude with this kind of value. Walk Walk. Wow I really disagree and I hate that I disagree because I want Melvin Gordon to get paid. He is one of the best running backs in the league by both traditional advanced metrics. He is very good but because running doesn't really really matter as much in today's N._F._l.. Because there are cheap running backs on rookie contracts is backup oss necklaces pretty good and veterans out there who are basically almost as productive as them because he's twenty six years old and running backs peak on average at twenty seven Ed and know the charges should not pay him see if the drop of Philip rivers next year looks like it did a couple of years ago because he doesn't have this guy out of the backfield bailing them out again and again catching the ball not running with catching it from him. 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Other intrigue there is one play. I like to see peyton breaking down one playing with one wanted. The Seattle in the Super Bowl has absolutely nothing to do with my father would like to show where they do nothing but n lies that play again and again. That's what they have marshawn links on A._B._C.. The bachelorette come on you guys go in just show the plant. I'll see myself out here grease. It's there's no more secret. I love with him. I don't think sleuth needs needs to be an option and sex and let's say you have had sex with one or multiple. These guys completely remove myself from this relationship. Honestly Jesus loves me you mean. Are you intrigue. Of course I'm intrigued. This is for Tyler see my favorite on the show. It's also because I just love how angry this makes Dan Bobby. How about you? You seem board. You're biting your fingernails C._C.. He ever intrigue as they tell you the time onto your man to the fantasy sweet oh come on knocking Miramar you know go to old man. 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Looking Up

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19:28 min | 5 months ago

Looking Up

"Cliff Barnes Company has been fuelling athletes for almost thirty years with their cliff and Luna bars. And this is super cool even during a time when there are no live sports cliff and Luna continue to support female athletes in fact right now there featuring awesome women on their new limited edition cliff bar packaging including soccer star. Megan repeat no tennis legend. Venus Williams Surfer Lakey Peterson skateboarder Jordan. Barrett Climber Ashim aspera she and Mountain biker. Katharina NASH CHECK OUT. All these awesome new packages for yourself in store online at cliff bar dot Com radio man the attic episode fifty seven. We'll we're going to begin with optimism around the NBA. They are hopeful to restart this season. Adam silver was on a call with a bunch of the owners when he was reported to be increasingly positive. So I would ask you. Is this reason to be optimistic. Tony I don't know I mean I would like to think so my my my first answer. You know my whole adult life from a fairly optimistic person Tony. I've been swayed increasingly by something. Charles Barkley said a couple of days ago and he just sort of enumerated in order of priority. All the difficulties of trying to get this season back on track and Charles has been the only one who said that. Shaquille had some similar sentiments and Charles. Charleston's had ticked. Talked one check after the. How're you going to do this? High GonNa this. How are you going to ensure player safety? What about staff? What about people delivering room service to players? How are you going to manage all of this and control something? That's not controllable in our is. It hasn't been controllable in any culture so far anywhere on the planet. Can you do it so I understand? Nba players want to play the players. All got on a different call and they talked about it and they are endorsing it in all of that. I think makes me optimistic but man with some with some hesitation. Tony I think you can sense in me. I wouldn't be surprised if Adam silver wanted to put this out to just blunt Charles Barkley and Shaquille O'Neal saying scrap the season altogether. They don't have any money to lose in it and I don't think he wants that to gain any momentum you ask yourself. Where are they going to play? Is it going to be a bubble factor? Is it going to be in? Orlando where apparently the MLS wants to play. There's a lot of stuff out there to me. The most important thing here is that there is not just one rung on the ladder that you don't go from Rudy. Gobert testing positive to shutting down all sports in America and so I will from Adam silver if one positive test will shut us down. We probably shouldn't go down this path. That sounds to me like like there. Were more rungs in the ladder that it's not going to shut it down and that is what gives me reason for optimism. Because I don't think you can have it and have no positive tests. I don't think that's possible right. Tony I agree with that. But doesn't Adam Silver's quote there? It's it's realism. That he's touching to me like okay. Everybody thinks they want to have this. But can we have it at? There's a positive test. What do we do? We can't shut it down? I don't know what that leaves us like. You are more optimistic after reading that quote. Yeah I'm saying he's leaving more room to maneuver then. He did the first time. And there's another overarching question. Here is sports and people who play sports. Are they essential to the country right now and I think you could argue yes? I honestly think you could argue. Yes now I argue. This is just as a last point here you take I know a good natured shot at at at Charleston Shack but tone Charlesworth. He has any money or not at stake in this one now his points. You don't want to sit there and try to smack his points down. His points are well considered. And you have to. If you're a commissioner and the players you gotta listen to everything Charles said and go okay. What are we gonNa do this this this this and this and all of those points? I'm sure being talked about in private but I do think when shock and Barclay come out and say. Shut it. Down a commissioner goes. We're not doing that just yet years. Yeah we're GONNA stay with basketball and something that's lighter and more fun you and I talked about this at some wee hours in the morning at least Pacific Time. Espn has released the top ten. After getting the I sixty four for now a top seventy four top ten players of all time in order to Tony Jordan Lebron Kareem Russell. Magic Wilt Bird Dunkin Kobe and Shaquille. O'neal you have any beasts having seen all these guys play in virtually all seventy four. Have you got any beat out with this list particularly in the top ten? Well I don't know who put it together. Nobody asked me so i. I don't know if people put it together. Who are in their twenties and thirties now. Look let me say this. I'm not going to go one through ten and argue. I think the top five or essentially unassailable in whatever order you want as long as Jordan is is one I mean I can see that even though magic is is my guy my sense of it is as an old person. The one guy I think is left out for certain from the top ten is Oscar Robertson. Who was the most complete player in the game for the first thirty forty years that they played basketball? He was magic before magic. He's eleven him in there. But Yeah I'm not gonNA argue. Do you have argument? But they're further back. Tony not of the top ten but I looked in this list and they got like James Harden is ahead of Patrick Ewing. Sorry not happening here. There's three guys who were ahead of Isaiah Thomas in it. You can't have Alan Ivorson ahead of Isaiah Thomas. You can't Steve Nash. I Love Steve Nash. I can't put Steve Nash. Who never made it to the finals. I love them ahead. Isaiah who won twice. It was the best player on that team. John Stockton. You can't have stopped it ahead is. That's three guys in a role they have. And also Tony. I I have Kevin. Garnett ahead of Scottie Pippen. I don't think I would but there are some great ones have. Carl Malone ahead of Moses Malone even by one notch no and the fun of this talk about some omissions no Klay Thompson. No tiny archibald no grant hill know. Dan Isel no Alonzo Mourning. No Chris Mullin the Dream Team the Dream Team out. Sorry I'm Chris Mullin in my list Dwight Howard you and I make fun of him. Sometimes he's going to the hall of fame. No David Thomson. Dan Anybody's list. You just named everybody in America. Who's ever players eight? Hugo gramer nine. You're going down a rabbit hole worrying about people not in the top ten there's one omission of your whole that seventy border there's one omission in the top ten. I mean if you asked me who I would get rid of I would say shack. Not wasn't great but because he's ten and you gotta make room for somebody. I believe when this is said and done there is no contemporary players in the top. Ten except Lebron and Lebron is in his mid to late thirties and his racist. Basically run steph curry and Kevin Durant. One of them is going to be in this if it's not taken today when their careers are over one of them if not both of them are actually going to be in the top ten but when you start going down the list illuminated by the NY ways or left out. I'm not just look Steph Curry's thirteen and Kevin Durant's fourteenth. You think one the will slant somebody else there. One or two of them are going to be in the top ten. Let us because we talked about. Shaq now twice was an shack. That's an kilo meal day in the news again. He has beef with Draymond Green. Who doesn't at this point month says steph curry would have destroyed shack on the pick and roll and shock return fire by saying the warriors. Listen to this would not have contended. In his era have been seven scene. You cannot be with check on this. You cannot this too much hyperbole. All of these these things these mini beefs and they are fun. They are fun they are. And so you mentioned draymond. Green is great to drain away in unafraid. On on anything I love that. No I'm not going to agree with that. Warriors wouldn't content. I'm not but checks point. Tony is the game is not as physical. You cannot guard people like this which you could in Shacks Day dre monsters. We could have played anytime but with shackles. Saying is the warriors would have had to differently. Look people didn't switch everything. During Shacks Day you guarded Your Guy. Somebody called out a screen like when you and not played and you ran that guy over. If he wasn't like Wes unseld your ran right through him and makes a point and I get that point so I'm not gonNA agree wholesale with either guy. The warriors would be great anytime and shack and penny or shack. Wait or shacking Kobe. Day can be great anytime too. I WanNa make sure I understand the era. This is like the mid one thousand nine hundred ninety s to the mid two thousand somewhere in ten. So yeah there's whatever it is okay. Shack is so crazily wrong on this. The warriors won three titles. They should have won four in a row. If big mouth draymond green didn't get tossed out they would have won four in a row which is an enormous number this if shot to guard any of the warriors the way they run up and down the court by the second quarter he'd be asking for oxygen and I love Shaquille but you just you just can't say that Utah and Portland and Sacramento. Were better than the warriors who wait a minute campionships. He's talking about seeing the warriors against the Lakers or the Spurs. But I mean come on shack what just take a Sacramento Sacramento. Was hosed out of a trip to the championship at the expense of champions in hopefully cheated won three gold. Stay one seventy three games without durant agreement. Echoing would not have contended is craziness shacks. Point is he said in his day in Shacks Day people could knock you out of the air and not have a foul car. You know this so was shacking and saying there wouldn't have been one hundred and thirty four point scored in a playoff game to that degree. Shack makes a great point. I'm not saying Golden State. Golden STATE IS GONNA BE GREAT WHATEVER. Go to place because they can put it in a bass right but I'm just saying shocking saying you people would not have been flying up and down the court like the jetsons. If you had to play in a previous era he makes a tone. He makes a solid point. There can shoot shoot better than anyone. They shoot better than everyone. They have revolutionized the game. I'm just I'm not buying this. I'm not buying this not find any part of it either. We go baseball. No former Oakland a's manager. Tony Larussa tells the San Jose Mercury News. He wishes await back to basketball Michael. Jeffrey Jordan had accepted the as offer of a major league. Roster spot in ninety four Jordan instead chose to sign with the white SOx stars professional career in double a Birmingham. Is You know Tony. Do you wish. Mj had signed with the as no. No I don't he was not ready for Major League. Pitching was not even ready at that point from minor league pitching. He hadn't played baseball since high school. You just can't put him directly in the majors. It would have been far worse and embarrassing to a degree that it that it wasn't. Now I am persuaded by Terry Francona. Who said I didn't even realize Francona was as manager in Birmingham and Francona said if he stayed with it he would have made the majors. I hope that's true. It may be wistful. I don't know the seems to feel the same way but no Mike I wouldn't have put him straight in. Would you know I wouldn't have 'cause then? It was just been for circus effect. And as we've seen now. I mean from from from the documentary. Baseball had another effect. Not just competition for Michael but this this sense of starting over after his father's death you know starting his own life a new a different chapter which connected him to a different time and it may have been also. Tony just sort of mentally refreshing. I knew I've used the word burn out. Michael disagrees with me. But I've used that word whatever it however you want to look at it. Baseball represented so many things to him and it worked. And I've heard Tony. Franklin of other scouts say they thought NJ needed like fifteen hundred bats and he could have made it. But that's you know that's several years. Tony was already in his thirties. I guess thirty one when he tried this so no I wouldn't have done it. I mean all of those things Michael Winter Baseball Four. It wasn't just to make the majors even though I'm sure he would've loved that too. Yeah I mean he was a grown man when he did that Bo Jackson and Dion Sanders. I believe were far younger. When they attempted to play two different sports he hadn't played. It has to be like Costa fifteen years. Yes Oh exactly you. Don't you don't do that. And that chapter the baseball. Chapter in Michael Jordan's life. I suspect is very satisfying to him. It is for the reasons you're talking about. Can I mentioned that? You can't have Jerry West ahead of dwayne Wade anymore. You we love Jerry West. He's the logo shine. You dwayne wait now. Are you insane? You're you're idolatry of Dwayne Wade has reached the point of insanity in two days game with a three point. Shot would average forty points a game state. Please stop this to me. How many times the Lakers lost in the playoffs to the same team? Despite having the lights of Baylor wilt and Goodrich and they lost we can to anybody in Bristol. Who can just take this? Just take it. Take it away. Because he's scared of me now because I'm on a roll. He doesn't want to hear my logic. Oh my God though. We're apart these days with sharing more at Geico. We'd like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing. Your savage dance moves. Thanks for sharing your. Diy Haircut fails thanks for sharing your inner lip syncs star. Now it's turned to share with the GEICO give back the fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies for current and new customers. Because we're committed for the long haul the fifteen percent credit last full policy term visit GEICO DOT com slash give back for more Info and eligibility glasses legal pad. Happy here we go happy Twenty Eighth Birthday Tyron Matthew. The diminutive defensive back has one of the great nicknames in sports the Honey Badger given to them in recognition of his tenacity. His determination to play tough physical defense against much taller. Bonus that he's only five nine he was he was a sensation at Lsu. Becoming a heisman finalists as a sophomore year Robert Griffin. The third one at the next season less miles dismissed him from the team for violating team. Rules News outlets reported that was for drug test failures but miles never confirmed that matthew slipped in the draft to the third round where Arizona took them after five years with the cardinals and one in Houston he signed with the Kansas City chiefs. Last season we had seventy five tackles two sacks and four interceptions made all pro and won the super bowl so that seems like the right move. Doesn't it will year. Tony does I I. I wish he was back with the cardinals a car going someplace town. They got a nice little collection of young players. Older guys like fits. I wish they'd get the honey. Badger one of your home teams will happy anniversary. Tony coup coach on this day. Twenty six years ago Phil. Jackson drew up a play for coach to take a shot with one point. Eight seconds remaining in a playoff game against the knicks with the Bulls. Already down to nothing. Scottie Pippen got so upset. That Phil did not off the plate for him that he took himself out of the game and sat on the bench and stoop fitness actions. Gasoline reverberate to this day because of the Jordan documentary but what people forget is coach. Made the shot with all the pressure in the world. Coach made the shot. Don't forget that when word got out the Bulls at quoted courted Couteau Kukoc from Croatia Pippen and Jordan bent out of shape and humiliated coach in their first meeting in the nine hundred ninety two Olympics pippen even said afterwards a coach was not ready for the NBA. So how sweet did this field? Making the game winner with Pepin on the bench. Get Off Scotty. Stop it's days you with this wrong. I've jumped you already. Kucova Scotty became really tight. Saudi coach Michael that I know firsthand for being around those guys co coach in a lot of game winners Demi told they made ready Jordan and pippen made him ready and he's thankful he's got three happy trails. The old rams helmet you'll die conic unbroken. La Rams Horn is gone but the new high tech modern art. Ram's Horn could have been a lot worse. It's still yellow on a blue background. It's still curved at the bottom and recognizable as Aram. Sworn it doesn't make me sick as I feared it it's possible even the ramp bastard war Eric dickerson will approve plus new Rams Unique fifty and maintain what we could call traditional rams colors except for the white ones. Which don't do it for me or bone as the rams people call. I liked the numbers. Get brighter as they go up. I'm talking about the numbers that moved from bone to yellow or soul as the rams people refer to yellow. How about you wilbad eloquent. I have nothing to add to that. I agree check for all the. Let me. Just check before we throw it back to Bristol. How were you on Rick? Berry being at forty three say Jaanus at twenty seven. I'm just asking. That's preposterous rick. Stop this was in great player with multiple rings. Stop At. I knew when I saw the list. I just wrote down Rick. Perry Forty Kornheiser will explode.

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Best of The Herd: 05/14/2019

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

43:50 min | 1 year ago

Best of The Herd: 05/14/2019

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And however, you may be listening. We're on iheartradio. We're on Fox Sports radio. We're on f s one for what will be the most exciting night of the year in the NBA. I kid you not tonight pong lottery and warriors blazers open game one joy Taylor is joining me. I am so excited for not only tonight. But today's show this is I can't believe how excited no games last night. I watched hockey one out with a fan for dinner got a night off. I'm so excited for tonight. There are a lot of things in the lines. And I have already started, you know, praying and laying their candles. I'm flung all onboard on the conspiracy guy. Well, I saw us more this morning. I saw this story. Let's start here. Keep the number one pick. If you're the Knicks or trade it. Trade for what Anthony Davis. He's boring. Not all-stars. Fascinating. Karl Anthony towns is boring. Anthony Davis been in the league seven years. I don't rush to a TV to watch Anthony Davis. I rushed to a TV to watch Zion in college where I don't know ninety five percent of the players the kid's a star. This is a rod of the Yankees. This is Jim Harbaugh to Michigan. This is Kevin Garnett or the Celtics shocked to the Lakers when you get a star. And you put them with a huge brand. You don't from an ownership standpoint. And I would never be an meddling owner. I'd walk downstairs and say fellas trade not happening Zion. Is staying not all-stars fascinating case Steph curry is crazy fund LeBron's bigger than life. Katie's personality James Harden's controversial. I think he's interesting Janas can be captivating. But you know, it's not like Kawai. It's not like I'm rushing to a TV set for Anthony Davis. Karl Anthony towns Zion to the Knicks is a once in a franchise opportunity. It's bigger than Ewing in nineteen eighty-five because a social media you can talk about kids now twenty four seven you don't watch the game go to bed and wait for the next game to talk about him. The emergence of opinion shows the emergence of cable television, the emergence of Instagram Twitter Facebook, this is bigger than Ewing in nine nineteen eighty five college basketball, no longer furnishes us with known commodities that we finally meet Jaama rant for March for a game. And then he's gone used to be Ewing came back three years. I mean Ralph Sampson Leitner dominating players Dunkin came back for three and four years. Now, college basketball is an airport you land, and you're looking for the next flight to get to the next city. It's the apartment complex. Nobody would talent wants to long-term Lebanon. You wanna buy a house or a condo? I read a story this morning. The Knicks would see more than a seventy percent increase in their sponsor values the minute. They get the number one pick. I don't wanna hear trade for Anthony Davis all get to why in a second. But the first reason why is he's not captivating. Nobody's rushing to their TV set to watch pelican games. You were rushing to your TV set. I saw the numbers to watch college basketball this year, the kid can also plug and play right now he'll be very good very early. And he also has a magnetism where I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up in a New York veterans like I'll play with that guy air a lot of guys wanna play with LeBron early Zion is in a very unique class Eric Lindros in hockey, Bryce Harper. Tiger Woods LeBron James. Yes. He is. He's in that class when LeBron entered the league and whatnot Instagram Facebook one this big Twitter wasn't as big cable TV. I mean, it's it's opinion. Shows talk radio. It's all it's big throw bust. You know, Bryce, Harper's only two seventy hitter. How many big series is Bryce Harper. One. Not even the best player in baseball. He is just signed a three hundred fifty million dollar contract from a marketing standpoint, you just don't get this. You you just do not get this to you think. Tonight. This trade talk. Do you think tonight when the Knicks? When when everybody sitting in bars around New York, and they're gonna take shots all over right? Like, you'll see the video. And if the Knicks won this and all of those bars explode, do you think they're exploding because they're all saying, wow, I can't wait to trade for Anthony. Davis. No people in New York this year. I saw the ratings watch more Duke basketball than they ever had why because they liked coach K no Zion. And they have a fourteen percent chance to land the number one pick. I don't wanna hear about trading him. You don't you? Don't get this opportunity. You just don't get it. And even if he's just like Bryce Harper good or Eric Lindros, which is a star. But doesn't win at the end of the season as much as you thought. It's all worth it. Because Anthony Davis isn't winning either. And he's not captivating. Let me shift to this. Speaking of New York, I saw this story yesterday gone off the show. Kevin Durant is going to miss game one, and it appears he's gonna miss game too. And he may miss game three. And you know, what I thought about I thought about the Knicks when Katie got hurt it created this fascinating storyline with staff, and the rockets it made it a different series right in the middle of the series the series got even more interesting. I got the dynasties over a Lord. Can they win without oh is hardened not going to be able to? I thought it made it made the series more captivating. There was more drama and everybody acknowledges, including Marcus Thompson, writing the K D book that Kevin Durant can be swayed. He was on our show a month ago. Listen to this. I'm not buying it. At the last moment, he sitting at a meeting with somebody, and he can't be swayed either way to stay or go just because that's just personnel. He could think is done right now whether that staying or going I still think later on like he can be swayed like he's a guy he feels everything he sits in a room. He's present. He's he's got away this stuff. We we still have three or four more series. If they win a championship of data to insert into this equation. Right. Like, I don't know. I don't know if even if he thinks he's he knows the answer. I don't think he knows the answer. I'm not buying it. Okay. If that is true and Marcus Thompson knows K D as well. As anybody in the media. I'm just going to throw this scenario at you because you know, with kyri and co why and Kevin Durant like every day, the news changes, right? Oh Colli at big shot. He's got to stay in Canada. Kyrie's recruiting people. All right. I saw a picture Katie celebrating the warriors winning staying, right? So I'm gonna throw this scenario. Let's say Kevin Durant. And I saw this story yesterday. Mrs games won games two. And then the warriors win both games against Portland at home. And the warriors say why why plan for game three? What's the point? He's ninety percent. Let's just any played game. Three in the warriors win game three in Portland. They're still really good. We all know this thirty and four when Katie doesn't play. Well, then you just don't play them in the series. There's no reason to play Katie in the series. So the warriors win tonight without K D, And then they win again. That's not unheard of. It's hard to win there. And they decide not to play them for game three. And as they win. Why plame in the series? Just get him healthy for the finals. He had nothing approve right. And then K D returns for the finals, and Milwaukee beats them in Milwaukee beat the warriors by twenty and oracle earlier this year, they match up pretty well with them. No freebies at the bucket with you on us. That's why I thought of the New York Knicks that would be the impetus to go. Okay. Katie's out. 'cause that narrative would be. They're like thirty six and four without Katie. They're worse with that would move him. So I just when I saw that story this morning K D to miss game one in probably game to first thing. I thought it was the Knicks because I've said all along. I don't think it makes any sense to go to the Knicks. I would never tell my wife Honey were moving to the east coast. My wife would say oh, more money. No less. Oh, better company. No way. Worse. Why? I just want to be the man she punched me in the forehead. So I don't I don't really get the move. But beat Golden State without him. Just beat Houston without him comeback lose to Milwaukee. Then I think he's gone now. One throw this out to you. This happened ten minutes ago. This happened ten minutes ago. An NBA veteran. You know, how they call? It. A joy sliding in near DM's. When people do that somebody who follow you follow them. They slide into your DM's if someone's leading your DM with some small day journalism an NBA veteran player I follow all sorts of people an NBA player. Very very connected. Been around this league for a long time. Told me fifteen minutes ago, Katie to the Knicks is a hundred percent done and he has made calls to other players. Oh, I do not have a double source. I don't just tell you. I don't. But he's somebody I respect he smart, and I'm going to put it out there because I believe this is what we are show double source big journalism. Right. Single source small J journalism sometimes that gets run over by a truck. So I don't have a double source, but I got it ten minutes ago and interesting, I'm telling you, I told you a long I think he's going. You are on the going thing. I'm I am a one percenter. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, not a m Pacific on Fox Sports radio f s one and the iheartradio app. Do you sell stuff online? 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Promo code sports. Ship station make ship happened. I took out teams with one percent chance on the NBA ping pong lottery tonight. Here's the eleven teams with a chance to land him. I beg. Okay. I you know in the fiesta bowl. I'd take state Notre Dame every year. It's nothing against TCU in Boise state. I like big I like big moments. I've been doing this for thirty years regular season baseball games. Don't feel urgent. I like World Cups. I like Super Bowls. I like star players. I like big stuff. It's not that. I don't watch you know, random, you know, regular season college basketball games. But when you've been doing something for thirty years, you're looking for a little juice in life, right Zion, New York is juice. So let me give you the six place because some of these are. Buzzkill? I mean, the guy ends up in Memphis. I'm turning my television set off. I might not even watch the NBA next year. I'd be so disappointed. Let me give it a six places that make sense to me and that feel big number one, obviously, New York Madison Square Garden. It rejuvenates. The franchise. It's got a Patrick Ewing nineteen eighty-five field. If you've been to the garden, New York is just a different basketball environment. Loud, obnoxious, raucous, intense urgent. It literally would be the biggest story in the league. Along with Katie to the Knicks. If that's true number two don't deny it Lakers. Lebron plus Zion. Lebron plus the next LeBron. Of course, it's huge Lakers are still the biggest brand in the NBA it would kind of rejuvenate LeBron's final destination potentially in the NBA. Because it feels as joy said yesterday, it feels after that Frank Vogel higher like it's just a bunch of nothing number three Dallas. I'd like to see this. I'd be very excited if that happened maybe not LeBron's ion excited her Knicks. But I would get Luca Danni. I get Porzingis. I'd get a good coach Rick Carlisle crazy popular owner and Mark Cuban and Zion. They'd be really good really fast. That would be a top four seed in the west. I've always thought Dallas. I've never kind of understood why Dallas is no more popular franchise for free agents. No state tax. You can live right next to the arena. It's right in the middle of the countries. He never have a six hour flight anywhere. It's a nice place to live. I've never figured out. Why Dallas is not more popular in the NBA with free agents. I think this'll be great. And they'd be great for the next ten year was Diane and Luca Danni each. It'd be great for a decade. A number four Chicago. Chicago is never been the most brilliantly run organization they can wear me out at times. But Zach LeVine Lauri Markkanen. They got some shooters and there'd be there'd be some cops to Michael Jordan. I mean, we've seen Chicago basketball is big it is a big midwestern heart of the country right in the middle of it. And we all still have memories of Michael. It'd be fun. It'd be fun to see Chicago great American city. You know, be fascinating. I'll say number five is Phoenix. You know, they can work with John Mirant or Zion. Jaws a better fit. But you know, what Phoenix has Devon Booker legitimate young star Damian Lillard doesn't get talked about early. But great you got max contract. You got the de'andre eight and from Arizona and then throws Zion in you're like, okay, people forget, this Phoenix was a really good NBA franchise won a title. Years ago. Gar heard this is not a dead franchise. They have been good before they were good for years and years number six's. You'll be surprised by this. I think Cleveland would be okay, they have their point guard. And I you know, what I've seen LeBron there, and it made it fun. And I that would be fun to compare. Okay. The next LeBron replaces the last LeBron give me a lot of shows a lot of topics a lot of segment, I don't think it would be bad for the NBA and Cleveland has a weird way of winning this thing all the time. And then number seven eight nine ten I would be miserable. And no fun to be around. If those happen. I don't wanna see John wall's injury and bad contract was ion. I don't wanna see can you imagine I on in an Atlanta Hawks uniform. This is simply not good enough America out of the out of the teams that are left that we've excluded the one percenters that is the most tolerable situation Lanta. Yeah. Does it? Lanny Atlanta and five all stars and got swept by LeBron four out of the choices that I don't want that would be number one. Yeah. Out of when I was a kid out of the choices. I hated raisin. Bran was the best serial. But I wanted honeycomb lucky charms and count chart Brandon. Make it tolerable. Just was I my mom was into this whole health thing. And I was like I got Carol chocula staring at me in a covered. And you're making meet raisin. Bran be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific. I had an NBA veteran who's very, smart and connected. Been around this NBA for over a decade slide in DM's tonight and say Kevin Durant, New York's one hundred percent done deal, and Kevin Durant is Colin guys. Now, don't have a double source small J journalism have it single source, but at somebody in the NBA, I have trusted for a long time in this morning. Ten minutes before our show. He sent that to me K D to New York. It's done. I don't necessarily think it'd be the smartest move. But it would be probably more engaging for the league. And for a lot of fans, and it would be fun. And I get it. But I wouldn't do it. If I was him. I think if he wins a third championship you're staring at a fourth Michael Jordan couldn't do that. Lebron couldn't do that shot. Good. And do that Koby couldn't do foreign row? I think put you in a that'd be. A new category. It'd be a new category. But what else, but I thought this morning because I'm just into this Zion. Williamson kid, and I've said it before the longer I've done this business. I I like juice. I like big I like tiger at the master's. That's the stuff that moves me. I've seen a billion games. And I saw Zion Williamson on the internet about five years going on like, oh, he'll be fun. Then he goes to Duke signs and all the other stars in college basketball. Follow him. He's got a magnetism. And I watched implant I'm like, okay. This doesn't look like anything else in college basketball. This is Larry Johnson meets Barclay meets magic. This is a once in a generation talent. I think people that don't see how he fits in the NBA. Don't get it. College basketball's all clogged up in the middle. You can play zone. You can't in the NBA. And the centers are mostly European skinny guys. And he's going to bear over them. I mean Westbrook can scored the basket, you know, things I on well, he's built for today's NBA. So I thought I told this morning we were talking on the staff about like people like you just love this guy. And I said there's almost who would I trade him for. And so the. Game is like Zion versus who where you want to get started. So let's get started. You give me the star. Okay. I have Zion. If I got Zion, and I had to trade for who in the NBA currently all right Zion or not let me just say this. I don't buy young NBA players. I don't I'm for veterans. So I've never been about. I mean, I'll watch young guys. Right. But I mean, Damian Lillard has been in the league. Now a long time. I am for veterans, by the way outside of Andrew looking John Elway I've said it forever. I would try the number one pick in the NFL draft every time to just get more young players. I think in the NFL Bella check, Andy Reid. Sean Payton, watch your watch Sean McVay against Bella check in the Super Bowl. Young guy. Got taken the class. I am for veterans breeze braying experience. So I'm generally not into young guys coming into the league and doing anything, I think this kid's going to sell tickets going to be fascinating can average eighteen. Going to be a real plug and play guy in the NBA. So this is a I'll never do a segment like this again, you put the stars up, and I'll guess which one would I take Zayn or the star for the next whatever year Zion versus Anthony Davis takes I on first of all I think Anthony Davis doesn't sell tickets. I think he's boring. He gets hurt. I don't think he has big leadership qualities. I think he's a really talented guy that gets you buckets. And there's value in that. I don't feel. He's a leader. I don't feel as magnetism. I don't think other players follow him. I think Zion walks in. He's more fun. He tells more tickets, he's more powerful. And I and I do think players will eventually follows ion wherever he goes Zion versus Jaanus. Not as easy Janas is young relatable loves to game. NBA's best rim protector. Let me get back to that. Okay. Let me get back down Zion versus Kawhi Leonard. I would take again I would take Zion. I think he's a better passer. Again, I got about seven more years of coli who's a tremendous two way player, but he's an on personality. Two other players wanna play with Colli. I have no indication of. That's true. Look now LeBron does because LeBron getting into desperate territory with the Lakers. But I I don't think there's a magnetism about his personality where guys wanted to play with magic. They wanted to play. They wanna play with staff. Kevin Durant left a good team. I don't think there's a magnetism there where people follow him. I think he's a great two way player. I take Zaylon closest thing. I'm jay. All right Zion. Versus Damian Lillard love Dame think he's great. It is a guard league. He doesn't play a ton and defense again. Who's going to for fifteen years changed the league now Dame has changed the blazers, but he's not even changing the Western Conference. I'd goes on right Zion. Versus Paul George. Pretty easy one pulls a great player. I feel he's a little bit like a lesser version of Colli Leonard. He's had now he's had a couple of major injuries. He just had a shoulder issue. Ain't break a leg in Indiana. So I got a couple injuries. That worry me that also worries me about Zion. I always feel like Paul's like the best number two player in the NBA. Like, I don't necessarily want him as my guy, but like pep-, and he may be the best number two in the NBA. So I would take Zion over Paul George Zion versus Kyrie Irving, easy one. I think Kyrie's a little flaky. I think he has a history of getting hurt look at his career without LeBron James. I I don't I think he's great. I don't know see him plan with a ton of joy. I think he's kind of difficult to coach. This is an easy one. I'll take the bigger stronger body who I think has magnetism that a lot of people wanna play with 'em. I'll take Zion over Kyrie Irving. That's an easy one Zion versus Jimmy Butler. Again, this pretty easy one for me. Jimmy's talented, but he's not as young as everybody thinks Jimmy's got about four peak years left. Let's be honest about it. He was best player for Philly in this series. He doesn't play necessarily well with others all the time. He really struggled Minnesota. And Chicago, I think he'd be difficult to coach though, not impossible. I like Jimmy Butler, but Jimmy Butler is now thirty one zion's nineteen. I there's a lot of tread on those tires. I'm taking Zion over Jimmy Butler here. All right. This'll be interesting Zion versus Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons you do. And Ben Simmons can't shoot Zion. Can't hit a three either. And the NBA is going very much to shooters league. And I can make the argument Zion shoot to better three now than Ben Simmons. The other thing is Ben's got an odd personality Australia. And put them on their national team and he was easily their best young player. He's part to coach he doesn't show. He shows a reluctance to put in the time to be a shooter as much as I like him. I I always feel there's a quirkiness about him. And I'm not a big fan of quirky. I I know exactly what I get was I on Energie passion body size work ethic. Love for the game. I'll take Zion over Ben Simmons next fifteen years. All right. This will be interesting Zion versus Joel Embiid. By the way, both p both players. There's a concern about size and diet Laudi. The difference is one guy's already missed two years with injuries and has missed like sixty two percent of game since he's played. I can't roll the dice on that. Now, I do think zion's injury concerns. I had a number to guide an NBA team. Tell me six weeks ago, he goes those ligaments for Zion are not going to last fifteen years in this league those knee, ligaments. There's too much torque was I on first thing I do take fifteen pounds off tomorrow because you'd still get the power in the speed at two sixty five that you'd get it to eighty to eighty five, but I take his eye on here because he hasn't he'd never injury history like NB all right Zion. Versus James harden now now. This. You would think. For me. I'm not into floppy mcflop Stor. So everybody is like Colin hay tartan. The NBA is built for James harden. Right. I mean, it's it is a three ball league an analytically. He's the future the NBA. Just pause. This is bad for radio radio. People can't watch this. So at least TV I'm giving you some visuals here can I just get five second. I was high. You gotta think about this. All right. Five seconds. Harden? Just change my mind, change your mind. I think the NBA going forward. I get more guarantees with hard. And I'm gonna take Hardin. Okay. Zion versus Steph curry all tell you harden. Short play defense. Okay. What's next versus Steph curry? God. I love staff. You know, what this is brutal? I think this is obvious. You gotta go with staff. He is small. He gets hurt. But you know, what I am by the way, he's already been a league like seven years. This body is not getting better. Okay. Timeout. Can I have five more seconds here? Hi, mark. I'll take Steph. Okay. Good choice. That was hard though. Zion zion. You're building for the future. All right. All right Zion versus Kevin Durant. Easiest one so far. Kevin durant? Okay. His best player in the world. Now, I'm only going to get. He's been hurt too. I only get four years of Kevin Durant prime. But you're talking about the best basketball player you're talking about I with his shooting ability. I could have seven more years of Kevin four prime and three or he's still in effective as hell. And I also think he's a personality. I do think I think I think there's a there is a there is something about Kevin Durant personality. I I like him. I'm fascinated by Kevin Randolph. I'm fascinated by him. I think players are. I also think Kevin because he watched the warriors recruit him. I think he'll be a willing recruiter with other players March what Steph did and Kevin smart, Kevin's like debt recruiting thing. Works Westbrook would recruit Steph did and Kevin was rewarded by Steph recruiting. So and I was told this morning that steps already getting on the phone with guy. So I this is the easiest one to rant over Zion. All right Zion. Williamson for the Brian James. First of all I'm going to get a lot of pushback on this LeBron year what? Pushback. Lebron is not only in your sixty often injury. Lebron's moved into a different stage in his life. His kids matter his business matters. He's not he's somewhat distracted. I would take Zaylon. You think I'm nuts? Don't you sixteen years? I make an argument for it. No. He's not in his LeBron's going to be great next year, but he's not an his athletic prime anymore. Even LeBron would tell you that he can't play. He gave up playing defense last year. He just stopped he stopped playing defense last year. Yeah. I mean this game changed a little bit last year. It's pretty obvious. I feel I feel. Is is difficult. What else we got? Well, you you needed some more time on unionist. So we will end with asking you again Zion. Okay. This just one more time on eat five seconds. Algo Yoenis get this. Okay. So in review. I took Jaanus Janas K D staff and James harden and harden got you know, what I am starting to have buyer's remorse on the hardened thing. Yeah. I thought that was a strange could I have a show of hands on that. Did I put your what would you do? Zion. Over harden, just because I think we've seen enough of heart at the height is highest level. They haven't been able to capitalize win. So he's fun. He's a superstar. He's going to sell tickets and. Game for the next six years thirty again, he rings. He doesn't get hurt. He's sick. He gets tired. I get tired. I don't get hurt. Either hired. 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Even though they've had these long dry spells Rick berry would transition today and be an amazing NBA player. He was Larry Bird before Larry Bird long could shoot tough as nails play defense unbelievable passer and had a few kids make the league as well. And it's my pleasure. Rick Barry is now joining us fourteen years an MVP in the finals and eight time all star a number two pick back in the sixty five draft. Rick. You know, I love you. And I appreciate you coming on the show. I want to start with this is that Steph curry, it's mind boggling, we almost always acknowledged great players. But there's something weird about Steph is he not enough alpha is he not big enough strong enough. NBA players seemed to have more respect for the hardens in the Westbrook's. What is it about staff that a lot of players don't hold them in this elite category? I don't get it. What? It is it. Well, I don't get it either. I mean, what players don't hold them in high esteem. I mean, he's an anomaly there's never been a player like him in the history of the league to play the game the way that he plays shoot the ball the way that he shoots. And you know, he went through a little tough stage there he was in a little bit of a funk there for the start of that rocket series for a number of the games. But he certainly rose to the occasion in the second half of of game. Number six. I mean, what a remarkable performance on his part in in the beauty of him. Is that he's been still great for the game because the average kid out there and the average person can relate to Steph curry, he's not some the amidst. He's not some Greek gods guy was amazing body in this incredible size. That's out there dominating people east doing it as an average guy. Yeah. You know? L? We're talking about leadership a lot of people didn't like the fact that he was an MVP and recruited another star. How did that sit with you? No problem whatsoever. Was it? I mean, do you feel about winning championships as these guys make so much money now, but about money before guys relieved to try to get more money? Well, they make enough money to go ahead and leave fifty lifetime. So now, it's all about trying to be a champion. And why would you not want to do that? I'd be I I said before we're years and years ago. I said I would give up part of my salary to have played with Steve Nash. I like that. I mean, just look at two of the guys that played with him. What did they do after they left the Phoenix Suns Steinmeyer and and Johnson made a joke? That Joe Johnson was the date showing Barry. Yeah, you're right. He made them so much better. It's an interesting dynamic. I I've said this for years, I always think self-awareness and IQ is underrated in basketball. And we just say, okay. You got the best players. The warriors are very interesting culture in dream on fascinating. He drives me nuts. And then he shows up in these playoffs. He such an energy guy. He is it Rodman. Who who does he remind you of? Well, he's never he's another one. I classify guys as a novel. These guys who have played play the game differently than anybody's really kinda played it before Charles Barkley was one for a guy his size when he did shack for a guy his size, and what he did magic for his size and what he did. And you throw Greenland drill Draymond into that category. I mean, he does things she's got such diversified game. And then casually gets hot and he can make his three point shots, which he he didn't of important games for the warriors. But he is the energizer, buddy. I mean it it's important like in. I remember I always tell people are championship here. You mentioned some of the guys tomorrow. Wolf says it was key Florida another one which beard and Charlie Johnson. Bearded Charlotte deadly every country Derrek Dickey, you know, just Greek Greek guys, but Clifford Ray was the hub of our team. Not me Clifford Ray. And I think the Draymond green. Is that guy for the warriors? It is interesting. The warriors record when Steph starts in K D, doesn't what am I supposed to make of that. Like, why are they so good without K D? Well, because they were good before K D I mean, this is a team. That's why everybody's so panicky panicky about it seemed can win. This is a team that won championships. Four K D is there Katie just made them better? You know, and somebody came up with SEO called you think that they're are better without Katie. I better without one of the greatest players in the history of the game. And indefensible player who when he's playing the warriors style of basketball the way that they play their best that team becomes unbeatable when the three of those guys are on. And now that he's not there. The only had two of them two of them got their game going there still for the win because they want championships before without K D. And what happens to them is that sometimes Katie so good. They got caught up in that rocket series and got away with it of relying too much on TD got away from playing the Borys basketball that I left St. past cut move get the baskets, not just give it to a guy. Go one on one. Because if that guy's not going could you be in trouble? And so the warriors didn't play good basketball at all in the beginning part of the series against. The rockets. People are saying now that katie's gone. I would have a hard time leaving Steph clay Kerr, the culture. It's smart. It's a new arena. I I would have trouble leaving that when you hear that. Yeah. He's gone a wha-. What do you make of that? What I'm praying that that's not the case because I love watching this team play. I I love all those guys. I'd be all good people. Why would you wanna leave? I I don't know. I mean, he he's the one that has to be decision. But I'm hoping they analyzes realized that he has a chance to be part of something so incredibly special. They're already specialties already done amazing thing he's come into the MVP two years in a row who knows what's going to happen here in the finals? You may not get back you play. But to wanna leave to go someplace else where you don't know whether or not you're going to have that chance even to win a championship. Whereas you have a tremendous chance to win multiple championships staying here and all of the other elements that you just brought the table. I don't understand why you would wanna leave that. But again, Katie. Don't man he could do whatever he wants to do bring. He doesn't because I wanna I wanna be able to be a part of this. Great run. That's around. Right. The stray ownership desire on tonight's the lottery, you know, as as a sports caster. I think it'd be more fun to see him in New York. Then then maybe a Memphis or a smaller market. I think it'd be fun. I like when I like when the Knicks are relevant. I like, you know, I like when the Dallas Cowboys are relevant. It's fun or Michigan football. He I think he's going to be really really good DNB lanes wide open. Now, I think he'll work does he remind you of anybody. Well, he reminds me of LeBron that he's a man child. He's the guy. That's again a dominant. I've never seen a guy. That's is with that kind of strength and power and physicality that he could do the things in jump out of the gym. I mean, he does some amazing thing that if it's working his game refining his game. There's no telling how good he can be. I don't think he has the same natural incredible feel that LeBron had for the game as far as creating opportunities for his team-mates team the floor, which I was still impressed by when I saw LeBron plane high school, so but he's going to be a special player. There's no question about it. And again, like really terrific person with a great personality who be I think very well received, regardless of where he goes, do you went to New York in the league would probably be love it. It'd be unbelievable for the league. Do you worry that he's to eighty five ligaments torque his body? Do you? When you went from college to pro to lot of games rector, you worry about his body too. Big. I now a days they have so much sophistication in the training of people sports specific, they'll get the muscles there to protect the knees and protect all the joints. The thing about it is that that big and that strong going up that high have those the bad fall or came down another way. Who knows you just don't know? I mean, you know, skinny guys sometimes getting themselves in trouble and do things we look at what happened to Katie. I mean, nobody even touched them then something happened to. I mean, you just don't know. I mean, you can't even worry about those things you just go out and play. But he's a fun guy to watch play. Give me interesting to see who wins the getting him in the in the draft. And then the big thing is who did the other teams picks? He just the biggest problem call is that teams make mistakes in their personnel. It's who do you draft. Who'd he getting free agency who do you trade for? It's all about getting the right personnel. Who had to play the game. I play the right way. And hope you get a coach doesn't screw it up. I think I've asked you this before I I saw Steph curry play in college. I would have never guessed. He would have revolutionized the game. About Zion coming in. I think he's an obvious kid that'll work. What was there was there a moment early with Steph curry where you were like, whoa. This this is because I didn't see it coming. Did. You know? I didn't see it coming on knew that he could be a factor because if shooting skills because he shot the heck I've everybody was Davidson but to to have the overall game, but he has to take his game to a whole new level. The he works out. If you've really does he see great players never satisfied with what you do you spend the offseason, not working on the things you do you spend the offseason on trying to go ahead and refined shortcomings that you're having your game. And get yourself to be a more well rounded player, and this is what Steph is done and he's doing things now. They're just absolutely phenomenal. It's he's one of the most exciting players I've ever seen. And he is worth the price of mission to watch him play stuff that he does in clay take shots three point shooting. You know that most for most players there would be terrible shots. But for those guys they're not because they make such a high percentage of them and in some. The other shooting. Did you see some of the percentages of the shooting at some of the playoffs ski lately, I need. Oh my God. They were like give the business was almost embarrassing. I mean, so those teams going to play against the borders of the warriors are under game. How do you beat the warriors shooting? Like, they do if they don't shoot a better percentage that they they should like that breeze. Get to the finals either those things get there. The warriors are they're they're in big trouble. I didn't even know have then even Denver lost because you know, Portland shot. What fifteen something percent some stupid percentage and beat them. I mean, oh my God. And yeah, I was like I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it because the choice of shots. You see? It's possessions that you have to take pride in the possessions that you had any port the possession to also take quality frequent shots some of the shots that these guys take just horrible. They're not bad Stephanie Klay at times. But most players they're bad shots tonight, Portland. Golden State Steph curry against Seth curry. And we got us talking today in about ten fifteen minutes, we're going to name the greatest sports. Families of all time and the Curry's against the berries. Rick you or a hall of Famer, you you are a an all timer and your sons play in the NBA. So if I said the curry family against the berry family compare the families here how would that role we'd win because we've had I'd have five kids and they'd have to. There you go. They couldn't defend you. We could we could double team we could double team guy and have one guy free to get all the rebound. Well, you you were an all time great. You were Elvis said your bird before bird and for for people. My generation tow was a pleasure to talk to you. And I'm very happy for you and continued success. Rick, Barry, thank you so much, please promote my website for the people TLC twenty four dot net. POC twenty four dot net. It's a two thousand dollar VIP travel. You'll be happy go there while the Gatien to go and sign up to yo- d- twenty four not that good stuff. Thank you wreck. Do you think you bet? Yeah. They would have five against two it be hard to win. I mean, you could double team to people. 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Here's Kevin. You're listening to the sports fix. That's right sports. Fix Tuesday today before Tommy's big move. He'll tell us about that. And actually we are reporting this just off the news. That West Sun. Cell passed away. And this was really sad. I saw this right after my radio show. Ended this morning. He's a favorite of yours. He's a favorite of mine. West has been such a part of the community in the DC area in the Baltimore area. For so long. buddy passed away this morning. and he was a seventy four. Years Old you know what not old enough Tommy. passed away from pneumonia He's had lengthy health battles according to his family, they put out a statement but wow, what a! What a big part of this city's sports history, and beyond that you know, just you know sort of a rock. The way he he looked in played on the field, he was person. You know you remember those battles with your favorite team the Knicks when he was in Baltimore and the first year to in Washington but it's sad that wes has passed away. One of my favorites of all. I always had tremendous respect Rooney against him as a knicks. Fan and I Wonder in September, in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty nine. Doing a story for Sport magazine. A profile of Willison wet because they were both going to coach against each other that year in the NBA. West was high happening hired to coach the bullets. And Willis was coaching the net. So th. This would be the first time after playing against each other all those years. They coached against each other and I went back and I read that story that I wrote in Sport magazine, and you know how I always point out that you know the one game where Willis Reed had thirty six points. And thirty six rebounds against West. Well the game before that with the Knicks up to nothing in that playoff series. Wes unseld at thirty four rebounds the entire next team. At Thirty Rebounds Wow. Yeah that's. Kind of wars that those guys fought and I had the pleasure to talk to both of them, and they had such tremendous respect for each other. I, mean this, this was this. was you know like like two great fighters? You know like being like you know having a friendship that lasted all their lives because of the war they want, and that's it was like with with Willis Reed and Seinfeld, I mean I mean you. You could not I can't think of anyone that I've ever come into contact with those basketball. That doesn't have respect for West on sales, incredible respect for WES unseld. You know for me. You know growing up with you know the bullets of the seventies in remembering, all of those games is really you know among my first memories as a sports fan, certainly the early seventies when the bullets moved from Baltimore to DC and Tommy, I was not a bullets fan when they were a Baltimore team. I don't anything really about the history of the Baltimore, Bolliger. During that you know the the early seventies before Washington actually got an NBA team, you know it was college basketball and I was a huge Maryland basketball fan, and that's all I cared about. It was the Redskins in Maryland basketball that was basically it, and then the bullets moved to DC in seventy three. They were the capital bullets that first year, and I was immediately drawn to them was a huge fan in part tommy, because unlike the caps who were an expansion team. The bullets moved to Washington and they were good. Championship contender and so you know that first year I'll never forget the first year. They were here seventy, three, seventy four. They played the Knicks in the playoffs in a in a seven game series, and they lost in game seven and I remember being crushed by that I'll never forget like I can remember my friend Jon Adkins John. John was a good friend of mine, and we had a sleepover at his house on the night. If game seven and we were both huge bullets, fans and And they lost game seven and the season was over, and it was the next season that the bullets were really good. They won sixty something games. beat the Celtics in the Eastern Conference. Finals than loss to the warriors in four games and one of the biggest upsets in NBA finals history the next year. They lost in seven to Cleveland the year after that. That they lost in sixty Houston and then came seventy, seven, seventy, eight, and I was looking this up before the show started, my memory was that West was much older than he actually was during that championship series, and that's why I guess. I'm surprised that he was only seventy four when he passed away this morning I would have thought that he was older. He was only thirty one years old in that seventy seven seventy eight championship season and by the way he was great during the playoffs. Remember when we had the conversation last week about Elvin Hayes may have been the week before, and I said to you I think one of the reasons that people don't give Elvin Hayes as much credit as maybe he deserves is he wasn't great in the biggest games. In their biggest series and he wasn't, but you know who was west was. Wes always came up big in in game. Seven at Seattle clinging to a two point lead West, who is not a good free throw shooter, you know. I don't know what his numbers were during his career. I'd have to look that up in fact I'm going to look that up right now. I'm just curious. What his free throw shooting his career free throw shooting percentage with sixty three, so not great, but in the seventy seven seventy eight season he was a fifty three point eight percent free throw shooter that stinks. And yet at the end of game seven in Seattle, clinging to a two point lead with twelve seconds to go west, got fouled, he went to the free throw line, and he knocked down. Two free throws to give them a four point lead now needed back then time. He was really one because there wasn't a three point shot, but he knocked down both of them with Elvin Hayes on the bench who had fouled out, he got the MVP, and he deserved the MVP of those NBA finals in then. Beyond that what I remember about Wes unseld is I just remembered this incredibly imposing physical specimen you know and he he was a he was the definition of you know a not talking and letting his play you know, be seen through his actions. He was an actions person, not a not a mouthy person at all. He was one of the most feared players right. You'll remember this more than I. He was one of the most feared players in an NBA era of feared players. No absolutely not the guy that you want it to mess with. You didn't want to trifle with West on so yeah. No No. You know what's interesting in this article that I wrote You know I, you know. I won't read. This phrase called. The the will to win is what throws him and Act West about it. And West talked out and echo call the. City he said competitiveness is something that you can't you can teach. But there are some people who have it and some people who don't intensity. I think that's something you can demand on the court. Otherwise, you're not put on the poor. That's the only way you could look at it. He was intent Oh man. He was intense, but you could never. You didn't notice it based on his demeanor. He had this scowl, but you know he didn't smile much on the court at all, but he was so He was so soft spoken. You know for such a like so I. Don't want to forget this. These these thoughts that I jotted. Jotted down number one greatest outlet pass in the history of the game. That's what he was known for for. Those of you that don't know wes unseld. He West unseld had a signature play a signature thing. It was his out two handed overhead outlet. Pass all right Kevin love impersonated Kevin Kevin. Love's middle name is Wesley is father played with West unseld named him gave him the middle name of. For Wes UNSELD and taught him. Wes unseld to hand over hand outlet pass. He was known for that. He was one of the best screen setters and pick centers in the NBA. He was a very good passing big man. He was a dominant rebounder and was certainly at. Points in his career a big time score as well never. You know a huge score like Elvin. Hayes but His. Rookie year, right and Baltimore. He was the finals MVP and the NBA regular season MVP gets the first. Happened and rookie. And Rookie of the year. Prior. He wasn't the fine, no rookie. Your MVP, my find my fear and. Threat though. We've done but done one other time. A, who? A history I forget who who was. But I mean. That's a rare I. Guess that's what I meant to say. Yeah I meant to say rookie of the year and MVP in the same season that first season in Baltimore, but I wanted to tell this one story that Phil Chenier. And I were talking about when I had phil on the radio show last week or two weeks ago and we were talking about West, and I asked him to talk about West's in Elven in an in and you know what people should remember about him because it was just off of that list Tommy of the ESPN's top seventy four players of all time. West was fifty on that list. Elvin Hayes was forty four and He told the story which I have seen in, and I've heard told before about game. Four of the nineteen seventy five NBA finals, golden state with Rick. Berry, against the Washington bullets, the heavy, prohibitive favorite, just coming off in. Eastern. Conference, finals win over Boston. The bullets were supposed to sweep the warriors. The warriors were surprise team out of the Western Conference, and still to this day and I've mentioned this before I. Think it's the single biggest odds upset in NBA Finals History the bullets. Remember that that that that Golden State team with Clifford Ray. And Jamal will right and the coast was Al adult talk about another tough guy. Well, that's what I was GonNa get, too so the story of the the fourth, and what turned out to be the final game of the seventy four seventy five season, it was played the capital center. Golden State's got a three nothing series lead in by the way the thought was phil mentioned this. They didn't think they routed a series down three nothing. They still felt that they were the better. But Rick, Barry's putting together. You know an incredible series and he's dominating the bullets. He's outplaying the stars. Elvin Hayes Wes unseld and in before game four Mike Reardon. Who was the the bullets small forward he was a Knick to you? Remember him with the Knicks he played. He played with both Willison wet exactly my career. His nickname was bags Mike Rewritten was essentially the guy given the responsibility to take Rick Berry out of the game as in knocking him out physically, and that's the. The way basketball was played back then, and the plan was that reardon was going to try to agitate and get into a fight You know an intentional fight with Rick. Berry and game both tossed from game. Four will really gets in the fight and attacks, Berry, and Al Attles was the coach of state will before the Game West apparently was given the responsibility of Al Annals pre-written said I'm going after. Rick Perry I'M GONNA TAKE HIM OUT WEST AL's coming off the bench. You've got him. Engineer told the story about how Al Al Aduls was the head coach of Golden State and was a tough tough guy as you said and when reardon gets into the fight with Berry, and you can see this. This is a youtube game. You can see west. As Al. aduls come sprinting off the bench step in front or rear. And is Chenier, said it took every ounce of the strongest man in the Game Wes unseld strength to keep. Allah handles away from the skirmish. Als. L. Adults got tossed from that game. He got kicked out of the game. which golden state eventually won to clinch the NBA Championship in Washington but Al Adams was not on the floor to see it. He was back in the locker room. Berry by the way did not get booted from the game. He stayed in the game and ended up with you. Know another good game in Golden State won the game and swept the the bullets, but. Listening to Chenier, tell talk about unsettled been given that assignment and West is like man als, actually a tough dude like he's really like who were the tough guys of that era like I know Clifford Ray and Mo- Lucas who played with Walton. Maurice Lucas in in Portland was bought Bob Lanier a tough guy, right? Yeah, these were all all tough guys you know but Westwood West. What's probably? The most feared a of that time West was probably the most feared the guy who I if somebody hits you on the back of your head. And you turned around swing. And you saw with West on south. You pull back. I I love all those stories like I. I was looking through sort of the toughest guys tough iskoe. NBA Player listen. There's a bunch of them and I see west, and some top tens and top fifteen top thirties or whatever you know, Nate Thurmond is on the list in just Rick Rick. Mahorn was definitely a tough guy mcdaniel, yes, good one definitely tough Guy Charles. Oakley Oakley definitely. Well three. It had legendary 'cause I know we're talking about West. But well as had the legendary fight of all time, where they were playing the Lakers in the mid sixties and There was a guy name Rudy. I forget his last name be played for the Lakers and he was, he was considered a a real dirty player, and he did something to well as. During the game and Willis went after him, and the Guy Iran's at a Laker bench, and will basically fought three or four guys on the Laker bench at one time, and they all scattered. Look up the video of it. It's on Youtube. Consider wondering the legendary vice of all time. He has basically wiped out the Lakers. And but they were cut from the same cloth. Seven West they they they were. They were cut from that same intense. Take, prisoners mold and It's interesting when I was talking to West for that story, and I was watching during a practice back. Then you know one or two questions. I asked them was. I bet you wish you had you on that team. You know and he said I think I'd be better if I had willis on that team now I think of Wes unseld I didn't know well. I knew him a little and I hadn't talked to him in probably decades. but he was a lot like Eddie. Murray Personally right very reserved, but but but did he have the same reputation among media members that Eddie Murray had. I don't know if he had the same reputation, but he was pretty unapproachable. In a lot of ways, heritage. Thing what I mean by that is Pity out to outsiders. They didn't know what he was like. The people who he was loyal to who was friends with extreme loyalty. Extreme, Friendship I mean you know people who were close to West Rave about what a loyal friend she was, and that was the same thing with Eddie. Murray, but you didn't get that from the outside. Looking in that this was such a compassionate caring guy. was that the same thing with Jason Worth? I now taking worth who's just an asshole you but to tease teammates didn't think that. No it's teammates didn't think that I I. Don't get the same impression that's as the word was beloved by everybody by by the janitors who worked at at the stadium, like West was by. You know the the lowest worker at the arena. Yeah? You know one of the things when I had fill on and I. You know you and I had fill on and I know. We've had these conversations in the past, but you know. Elvin was not Elvin was difficult. You know in like of of of that. You know of those three guys like there was the era of the. Before Bobby Dandridge got on the team. Where was three stars? You know the bullets had Elvin Hayes Wes unseld and Phil. Chenier you know all three were stars Phil. Chenier was a star. You know in the NBA, and then when Phil started have have the back problems. Bobby Dandridge was signed and. They WanNA title obviously very because they added Bobby Dandridge, he was the key missing piece. In those title teams in the title team in the team that lost in the NBA Finals and seventy nine, but but the you know. Wes was beloved to your point Elvin was really difficult in elven had problem with everybody fill, and and wes but Phil Phil. said that you know. When they got on the court, it was all business it was all professional and Elvin was a major pro, said the biggest problem with Elvin Hayes. He was very insecure. You know and he you know he just he. He felt like he never was getting enough. Credit and people. Were you know thought? Thought more highly of other players than him, but anyway this is about wes unseld rest in peace Wes unseld, one of the greatest really one of the greatest sports figures players in the history of this town. He's a champion. He's a legend. He's considered one of the fifty greatest players in the history of his sport and then obviously his post career as both coach and general manager didn't go quite as well. You know here now. They're always today. I've always talked about that the second act when they go bed. You have a generation of fans that grow up with that as the impression and I always a disappointment. You know it happened with my Flanagan in Baltimore. it's it's happened to some extent with with Doug Williams. Yeah Yeah. Definitely although he didn't have, Doug never had the control over the organization at West did. You know by the way one other quick thing I mean the relationship between Poland Wes unseld was truly. You know according to people that knew you talked about loyalty. Boy Was West's loyalty, Poland and vice versa father and son relationship. Yeah, it really was. Yeah? I mean if people who knew West. Where very loyal to him. It's like the people who knew Eddie. Murray were very loyal to him and outsider didn't get that. They just didn't get that. By the way, the other quick thing about West unseld. For his entire career, he was listed as six foot seven and I remember that sort of like Barclay because Bar Barclay also was listed as six six or six seven, but he wasn't sick. Seven I think West's even admitted this at what some point that he was much closer to six five that it was a program height, but think about that he was. Listed, at six, seven played center, he was a true center in the NBA. That is incredibly short to be a center, but he was such a wide body. And have it. You know you know that at at the basketball guru and I'm being serious. Here I mean I'm being serious actually. rebounding is not about height. No, no, it's! It's about timing position and and smart. and effort. In basketball rebound! saw. Is, as much about heart effort, as it is about other things, but yes technique positioning all of that not to mention. He had great hands. Great hands for a bigger you know less mobile kind of player anyway so wes unseld passed away got on unjust. Never forget those. It's a sad. It's a sad day for. Sports fans do I mean because I mean what fa I mean. It's another Kevin. It's another chapter gone in both of our live. Yeah I mean I don't like to think of it. Don't but. I am surprised. I really was surprised to learn that he was only seventy four years old. Did you know I mean? Didn't you think he was older than that? I'd never gave it much thought, but since I figure, he was probably twenty one and sixty eight. Has a rookie? It makes I mean I was a rookie sixty eight. Cents you know. He always looked like an older player you know. He looked like an older soul older player. You know facially and otherwise but I. Feel like if somebody said to me yesterday. How old was wes unseld? When the bullets won the NBA title in Nineteen Seventy eight I would've said thirty, five, thirty six. He was towards the end of his career. He was the final few years of his career, so he had to be in his mid to late thirties, he was thirty one. He retired at thirty four. Year. That's not super old for for for retirement. anyway Let me tell you real quickly. interesting segue here, but if you were to guess on average, how many days people in the US have to wait to see a doctor? What would you say a week? Maybe actually on average people have to wait around twenty nine days to see a doctor in major US cities basically a month if you're dealing with a condition. Condition like erectile dysfunction. You want treatment ASEP. 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All right there are there couple of other things that I that I wanted to get to before we get to all of the events of the day I wanted to mention that I had John Wall on the radio show this morning Tommy before wes unseld away actually recorded it yesterday, and then we played back today But you know this NBA plan potentially for a restart to the season, which may only include twenty two teams I. Don't Know How much you've read about it. But basically they're going to take teams that were in the playoffs, or were within earshot of the playoffs, and they're gonNA. Let them participate in some sort of shortened regular season, and for the for certain teams like the wizards who were on the outside, looking in, give them away to play their way into the post season through some sort of short you know round Robin Tournament. There are a lot of different ideas of how it would work. But I asked John Wall yesterday I, asked him. If you know how healthy was and he said I'm one hundred ten percent I'm I'm ready and I said well. Now that you know there's the possibility of the wizards, playing may be in playoff games. You know a month from now, will you play? And he said none. I'm not playing until next year. You know I wanna I WANNA get a restart to the season you know. That's that's what we're shooting for I. Don't want to mess up. You know what was going on here and I said well. You know everybody's sort of restarting here. You know by the time this thing starts. It will almost beat the amount of time. That's typical of an off-season. Starting from scratch, it's not like you're going to go back to March eighth or whatever that day was in. Say Hey, the same exact group. It'll be four months. You know you're right. You're right I. mean you know I mean? How much difference is there him starting to to play ball insulated by as opposed to starting to play ball in in September? Yes because September would be training camp. So I agree with you, but he really. He shot it down. He said no chance like they have a date in, so you know part of me. Believes that you know while he says he's really ready and and ready to roll that. Maybe you know they've got a timeline on the rehab and they're not gonNA. Push it back earlier. Than they wanted to, there was something else to just wizards related I'm real quickly. that I didn't get to on the podcast yesterday. There was a report out from the New York Daily News over the weekend that Brooklyn. The Nets have reportedly had internal discussions about trading for Bradley beal, which would pair him up with durant and Kyrie Irving next year and beal in an interview. Friday on ESPN, said quote. It's not the first time I've heard this kind of talk. It's interesting to me. I look at look at it as a sign of respect that I've been doing good things in. In Guys WanNa, play with me. That's an unbelievable feeling when you hear that Kyrie and Kevin Durant want you that Shit's amazing at the same time. You don't know how much there is to it or how easy it would be to do, and I've put down roots in DC and I've dedicated myself to this town. This community I love it here and it would feel great to know that I could grind out winning here instead of jumping to another team, but I'd be naive to say that I. Don't think about it when these stories come up. closed. Quote here had some. Out Comments About John, wall, he said my biggest thing right now is that I wanNA. Play with John Again I. WanNa see him. Get back to the level where I know he can be especially since my games grown so much while he's been out. What can we accomplish together? I'm so happy. He's healthy working his tail off. He's looked great before the the pandemic you know quarantine. He said I was super encouraged when I saw him. Participating in various. You know activities and and he said the few practices that he participated in with US change. The whole outlook of our team closed quote. Man! I don't even know what Brooklyn could give the wizards. The Wizards are not going to trade Bradley beal, but you know. I I've mentioned this to you in the past and is that you don't win an NBA Championship in the twenty first century without a top five player on your team, so if the goal is to win a championship. The wizards aren't going to win one because they don't have a top five player on their team. You know. I, what I agree. I went through the library. Yeah, I and. The thing about the NBA. Is. As, opposed to football or even baseball I think. To some extent. It's so hard to turn around the direction of the franchise unless you get extremely unbelievably lucky. Sunny like like like Golden State? For twenty years. Worth Franchise in the NBA worse in the wizards. And then they hit the lottery. With Klay Thompson and an curry, but they didn't actually hit the lottery. You know they just really like Oklahoma City did like they did something that is really hard to do like getting lucky. Where you get the number one pick and you get to take Lebron, James you know is one thing but they drafted well, and so did San Antonio you know in of course they had David. Robinson and Tim Duncan at the top of the draft You know to get them started, but yeah I mean. Look the it is these sport that is most impacted by talent. If you don't have talent, you don't have a chance and to take that a step further as I mentioned. If you don't have a top five player on your team, you can't win the title. There's one example Tommy in the last in this century of a team winning a title without a top five player was the two thousand. Thousand and four Detroit Pistons where Chauncey billips was probably the best player on their team, and he was not a top five player rip. Hamilton was not a top five player received Wallace Ben while none of those guys were top five players every other team you know starting with shack in the beginning of the two thousands and Tim Duncan, the Spurs, and Kobe Bryant and the Lakers and Lebron. Lebron and the heat and curry and Durant, and the only e Coli Leonard last year there two teams that you know other than the Detroit team that you could debate, but it's a hard debate, and that is dirk. Nowitzki in my view was a top player in twenty eleven when Dallas One and Kevin Garnett was definitely a top five player in two thousand eight when the Celtics won the. The you know you could say no, they're actually the sixth and seventh. Best player wasn't obvious that they were top five player will both of them were first team on all NBA selections in those seasons, so by definition. Nearly they were a top five player Anyway. The point is back to the beal trade thing if I were the owner of the wizards of the general manager, the wizards. And I want to win a championship. I would always be thinking about do I have a top five player, and if I don't. What do I need to get one and that means I'd be all ears on any player that people reached out to me on. I would have to be. I agree. I agree if you're not gonNA, I mean if you're not GonNa win with the guy. If your goal is to win forty five to forty eight games that year, and may maybe if you're lucky, make it to the second round of the playoffs. which has been the measure of success? For the franchise. For the last forty years. You know those. They do that. Those are considered the glory days. When they went forty eight games and make it to the second round. But that? That shouldn't be a goal. You know I mean the goal is to win the NBA Championship and you're not gonNA you're right. You'RE NOT GONNA win it. With Bradley, beal and John Wall. No, that's not that's just not going to happen I. Mean you know if you had a third player? That's a top five, but I. don't think really Hot Schumer is that player I mean I'm I'm been impressed. been impressed him. Complimentary player that's right. That's exactly what it is You know if wall really is healthy and beals really improved which he has, they could win fifty games and win and get to the Eastern Conference finals, and they were very close under Randy Wittman in two thousand, fourteen in two, thousand fifteen. You know without John will if John. Wall doesn't get injured in Twenty fifteen there in the eastern conference finals. You're right. You're right so button eat it. Yeah, he did, and they wouldn't, and they wouldn't have won over Cleveland Anyway so if if they had a better banks. Year after that when they played the Celtics. And Twenty seventy. They had if they were better. Yeah, I, mean and. They weren't going to beat Cleveland more likely than not in the eastern. Conference Finals either I did ask John said, which of those two teams, the twenty fifteen team, or you've got hurt or the two thousand seventeen where you lost in game, seven to Boston, would have had a better chance of winning the conference finals, and getting to the NBA finals, and I said assuming you don't get hurt in two thousand fifteen, and he said it's close, but he he'd go with the twenty seventeen team, even though the. Team had had pierce. Oh I've I nearly forgot. So I asked him you know I had him on for twenty five minutes and I said so. For years with my partner, and with all my listeners, I took a lot of flack for being a huge. Trevor Rees a fan and I said I always thought that it was a massive mistake. After that first playoff year you guys beat the Bulls and five, and lost to the Pacers and you and John. Were you and Brad were young I thought a Reza should have been reassigned I. I'd never thought Durant was coming here, and he just interrupted me and he goes A. A thousand percent a thousand percent we all we all knew it, and we all set it at the time of a major mistake any any. Then he tried to backtrack by saying you know Paul Pierce, who is a good player, but Areso Reza was a leader was a defender. We just had we had the mix that was the right mix in two thousand fourteen so I was glad to see my my very strong. You know hot. Take opinion that I'll never back off of. validated by one of his teammates. I hope you kept that sound bite for for eternity. Yeah, those moments are rare. They're rare, very rare. Trent Williams spoke to Ian rapoport yesterday. And said that he was ready to play last year when he came back, he said you remember the whole thing with the helmet and getting the helmet to fix get fast that they finally that the trainers did in the equipment manager got the helmet to him the following Tuesday when he got battle back late the following week, and he was surprised that they put them on the. You know the the NFL list and ended his season that he was ready to play. That he had to helmet and was ready to play. William thing. Is like a law and order episode. Where they bring in. Two guys accused of a crime and you don't. Believe because both of them are liars. True I it's funny. You say that because I was like I. Want to take him at his word, but the bottom line is I'm not sure I completely believe him right I why. Why would you, but but that means? Do you believe the Bruce Alex I? Mean that's that's what I always wonder. If things I I would say to Redskins. Fan Is. you know, however you side on the Trent, Williams versus Bruce Allin thing if you sight on Bruce Allen's, if you from sal inside look at yourself in the mirror in the morning and stayed that a couple of times and see how that feel. You? Know I just think Oh, the two weeks old. I would give the benefit of the doubt to Trent Williams, and a lot of cases honest with you I. Don't believe either of them. I would definitely give the benefit of almost anybody else. In the case of Bruce Allen, but I just with that whole incident last year I just knew a lot trusted a lot of the information that I had, and I don't believe any of them like I i. actually would lean towards the Redskins, being a little bit mischaracterized by the entire incident with that said whatever it's the Trent Williams, thing were beyond he did of Giggle when rappaport said that you know he couldn't believe that. The redskins ultimately just got a third and a fifth when a lot. Lot more was offered in trenches. Laughs he also, he also said that San Francisco was really the target for him and his agent for you know going back even before the draft because there were some rumblings about Joe Staley retiring and Trent wanted to be in San Francisco and he mentioned Kyle and Mike. He said Mike's around a lot. You know with the forty niners and Christopher stor and Mike mcdaniel and a lot of the former coaches. He's like I. Just really I was always comfortable around those guys, and that's where I wanted to be. anyway last thing before we get the all of the events of the last several days. I want to hear what your opinion is. I have no idea what you've been I. If if you've even had a chance to weigh in on it, but this baseball thing the owners now mulling a shorter season of fifty games I don't know if you followed this. That's the news out of. Jeff Passan, who's been all over this story from the jump? You know the players were at one hundred and fourteen. The other day in the owners are essentially saying the more games we play, the more money we lose. We're up for fifty games schedule and we will pay you. Your entirety of your pro rated portion of your salaries would equal like thirty percent of their annual salary for fifty games. We're at seventy percent for the hundred fourteen game schedule. It would appear to me from afar that they're still so much distance between players and owners that there's not this is not a lock to get done. Now it's not a lot, but I think the owners ultimately. Will Cave under the pressure of of the the scenario of having the NBA Nhl Start while baseball's on the sideline. I think I mean. We're talking about the long term health of your product. And you can't afford to do that. So I think the owners ultimately will have to give more than they're willing to just to get make they get their game on the field Because you can't. You can't come September. Have the NBA underway at the NFL underway the NFL starting and baseball, not doing anything. I mean that's that's long term damage. The players. Those some players will retire. Some players will come back the next year and start making their money again. It won't affect the players as much as will the owners. If the owners have division real understand that. Yeah I, think the sport better be careful because to your point, if basketball and hockey or back playing, and it's exciting, and we're in August and September in their playoff games, and all the sudden football starting, and there isn't a suspension of play, and they complete their seasons, and it's a great thing for the country, and it's a great thing for sports. Fans in baseball sitting on the sideline, watching this play out. Not a good thing. I mean personally my feeling and I know many of you listening. Don't necessarily agree with this, but I think the the this. The last three to four months have made a lot of people realized that they didn't need as much sports in their life as they thought they did. Now I think people would have felt differently. Had this happened during football season or a lot of people would but I think there are a lot of people that that Miss Sports and would prefer to have it, but figured out during this period of time that they don't need it as much as they thought they did. Yeah Yeah Yeah. We need it now, yeah. I I didn't spend a Lotta time on this yesterday, 'cause I did three hours of Radio on it yesterday morning I will. I will tell you telling me that today on radio. I did basically all sports and I. Had Somebody Tweet me? Whereas hold on. I gotta find the tweet she and You are leading the Violin Group on the deck of the titanic this morning. Are you out of your mind? And I came in early this morning, and I had a bunch of thoughts written down and I. Just said You know what I did this for three hours yesterday. Am I gonNa do this every day this week? You know I'm I'm not one of those who feel like. Oh I'm a sports show were doing a sports show. We can't weigh in on you know significant events of the day that are impacting the lives of everybody that are listening to it's like. If, somebody said Dude I tune in. This was yesterday I tuned in for Sports. So if I want the other stuff I'll go to the news. Well, you know when there's a big sports story news. People do the sports, too. You know somebody that does a political talk show. When there's a massive sports story, they'll spend some time talking about the sports in their show, too, but I'm not gonNA. Do it every day of the week in. Other than the president's speech in. The photo outside the church. You know and more rioting and looting and and damage last night. You know there wasn't like a major update to the story anyway, but go ahead. your thoughts. On the last days because we haven't talked since Thursday were. We did talk about this a little bit on Thursday. low babe major update yesterday I mean basically you know the president moving protesters added away, so he could get his picture taken at at Saint John's church across the street, which was all about? So I mean I mean you didn't need to be Sigmund. Freud, to figure out you'RE GONNA make fun of me for hiding the bunker Friday night. I'll show you some courage, buddy. That's what that was all about. That was trump saying I don't like the idea that everyone say that I hit from the protesters Friday night in the bunker so I'm going to show you I'm going to front them I'm just going to get matted away I. Before I confront. It was it was a sad sad day in a series of bad days. it was a horrible horrible look for the country, but for trump. for his. Face and I think that's swindling based, but it's still is based. It's always got. it played right Suet. Keep became the law and order president, and this is what Nixon did, and I lived through sixty eight. Nixon was not an incumbent at the time. He was a candidate against Vice President Hubert Humphrey. But they're into riots and sixty eight. Nixon made a point of making himself the law and order candidate who would bring order to the streets and back to the country and it helped get him elected. so as a political strategy. It I I could see it coming once once you know. Once, the looting and the rioting started it was easy to see that trump would adopt that Nixon style. And so that that that was that was part of the show of force. Yesterday to basically show that he's so law and order president you know. He sort of went a couple of blocks away later in the night where they were busting up windows and breaking into storefronts. That would have been a little bit more impressive show. Than than pushing away all the all the protesters who were considered peaceful from all reports if he walked down Connecticut Avenue and What Little Army and started arrest lure looters there, that would have been impressive practice gym I imagine the look on the people breaking glass windows in jumping into stores. If the President Stan with his arms crossed the sidewalk, checking all that they would've looked like coming out. Yeah I mean. I thought the walk across the street to that beautiful church that you know it's so funny. And I mentioned to you that my oldest son's girlfriend from La had been with us for like the first two months of this thing and one of the days we sort of got in the car and we drove around DC and. Drove Down Sixteenth in in Pennsylvania Down Pennsylvania and went by the church and I said that's the Church of the presidents right there. That's the church they go to and in a couple of weeks later. It's you know basically torched I I thought the walk across. The street was ridiculous thought it was a stupid idea for a photo op. That didn't make him look strong in my opinion made him look like you know. The narcissistic does that. He is I. Mean at the same time I actually? Listened to the speech, the six minute speech to and I I was I was not happy about. The lack of any address late last week over the weekend in Him tweeting out you know from the bowels of of the White House over the weekend I actually thought the look incredibly cowardly. You know and I think some of those tweets were in the area and in situations like this I expect the president of the United States to do whatever he must do to protect the citizens of the country and I thought we should heard from. From him before last night, but I did listen to the speech and I found it I thought it should have included more empathy more conversation about George, Floyd and what he intends to do about this issue of police brutality towards African Americans in particular. I think you should have you know what I before the speech started I said to my son. I think he should say. Black lives matter as part of this address I think he should. rather funk pulled out, but the rest data, but the rest of it. You know the insistence that he will do whatever he can do to protect good people from the the few you know, the minority of bad people that are taking advantage of the situation I had no problem with those words. I wanted to hear those words. You know I I. I obviously nobody nobody well. I wouldn't say nobody. There are a handful of people that think it's part of the process. I'm not one of them. I mean I mean I see the people doing damage to people's lives. Innocent People's lives are being damaged by breaking into these windows by by the rioting by the looting You know it doesn't have to be part of the process and yeah, look. We got snapshot. All you get or snapshot from what's going on out there in the media, you could only take the snapshot for what it's worth, you know. We saw snapshots of of people breaking into the into stores. And looting when you say you're not seeing snapshots literally because there's extended video. Of all that. But. We also saw A snapshot of protesters try to stop those people and actually get the police to arrest some of those people. In certain match back because they know that you know that I mean it damages what what the core is of what they're trying to do it. This is such. It's. Yeah I. Mean What's amazing is we have forgotten about corona virus, and if the fire is is through its form. The, Shit's GonNa to hit the fat in a couple of weeks. Well, I think it's been really fascinating here over the last week two weeks ago, basically half of our well. three-quarters to four fifths of our media were shaming people who were in large gatherings, and now they're handing water bottles out to these people. Really really funny, but back to the speech for a moment because you know. I was listening to the reaction afterwards and I'm like. Am I missing something? The photo op, of course ridiculous, absurd, okay I would have preferred more more empathy you know and if you listen to the the SPACEX lunch speech, there was a lot more about George. Floyd and that nobody listened to that speech Saturday which is fine, but you know to hear people refer to him as a dictator or a fascist. I mean people don't even know what fascism is. He acknowledged that he was. You know attempting to protect everybody including the peaceful protesters who were out there? He wanted to protect their rights you. Know No. One's listening to what he says. Any I did that's. The point that's crowned himself out I think it's just such a complex situation here. The aftermath and the irony and I mentioned this yesterday is that the immediate reaction to this death was overwhelmingly in agreement like everybody regardless of race. Gender Age prof-. Profession. Everybody thought it was a heinous murder. There was no dissenting opinion on this video none. Police chiefs. Predisposed to protecting law enforcement and giving law enforcement, a chance for the facts come out. They were all over television all weekend long current and retired weighing in saying air air. Air From Elite Union. Yeah well, we're from police. You heard from police chiefs. You heard from resume law enforcement people saying this video shows a bad cop who committed murder. In that that was the the immediate reaction was. Everybody's in agreement. Aftermath is so less clear. We have so many people I. Think the significant majority of people who are upset have George Floyd on their minds have chosen to attempt to be part of peaceful protesting as our constitutional. First Amendment allows, and then we've got a smaller group of people in every city where protests are happening, who are fucking it up for everybody else? Including those that are heartbroken over the death of George Floyd even if they aren't choosing to protest there at home watching. That particular group has created as much angst about the current stability of this country Tommy as we've seen in a long long time, you know maybe since sixty eight. People have gone from being sad and angry about George Floyd to be being concerned for their own families in their own businesses. And they are, but they're also concerned about the person in charge of the country. That's what makes what that's. What adds to their concerns. Did they just watched? A leader takes us through with you know with no leadership skills. Take us through this this this. This health crisis that we went through, and now we're going through a crisis. That's probably far more significant, and there's no confidence in him safer safe for I think a a a dwindling fan base. Here's what else I think you saw. with the march across the church. You saw a preview of January if he loses in November, Stop Tummy. All no no. stunning. Michael Moore, I can't take it. Orally really. Why. Why do you think that? I said. That's six days after he got elected. He won't leave. And how does that work explain that to me? Well how does this work? What do you mean? How does this work? He's currently the president. You're suggesting that if he loses the election on inauguration day, he's not gonNA. move out the joy that they're gonNA. They're gonNA be there at the door with armed. You know Maga- hat, wearing people, keeping Joe Biden and his family from moving in. If that's the way it shakes out, come on the charts ridiculous. Election he will night, but you as much money as you're willing to bet that that doesn't happen. I mean see about that's that's. That's inflamed. That's that it's not that speech that site. That's inflaming people's. About the guy really you. Bet Me. I'M NOT GONNA. You about something serious. Really. This is serious. Okay so you only bet on Games You're not so sure of it. You don't really believe that that's hyperbole now you. Know you don't. You're you're smarter than that? You sound like Michael Moore. Percent Look I. I don't believe that for second personally and I don't believe that you actually believe it but whatever. Do you keep saying I. Mean how hoping is so you're telling me I don't believe what I'm telling I. Don't care if it's insulting. You insult me all the time with what I think actually what I say. I. Don't think that you really believe that. He would stand there with armed guards around him and refused to lead the White House. I think he would really. Yes okay I believe you then. It's just a stupid thing to say I. You know here's The issue about what you talked about earlier. Which I'm glad to hear you. You know not be one of these people that believe that everybody's peacefully protesting and that there is an other stuff going on, because there clearly is I mean. You know wake up this morning and I and I see four police officers in Saint Louis shot by protesters. And windows smashed fire set stores looted New York. You know rioters in Seattle, throwing rocks and fireworks in I also had to sit there as I'm watching the. The the them clear out that area last night at Lafayette Square for the the stupid walk to the Church by the president and I'm hearing everybody. Tell us tell me how peaceful the protesting is, and I'm watching some big tall blonde. Do take a swing at a at one of the cops right in the background. Know this peaceful protest. You're watching. You're watching the to WHO's getting pushed that away for doing nothing but protesting. Did you get a picture that guy before the cops started pushing them back I don't I I know that there are definite examples of people of police officers being overly aggressive and being out of line with respect to handling these protesters, and I've watched and I've seen the protesters, and there are lots of them that are absolutely there for the right. Reasons. You know mostly good intention. People who are angry and demanding change once and for all you know and at the same time in every single one of those groups that I've seen. There are people who are antagonizing provoking ill-intentioned people who have other motives amongst the majority of good protesters. I think it'd be an awful job, not an easy job for these police. Officers who were there and they've got this incredible job Tommy Right? What are their responsibilities? The responsibilities are to number one. Up Hold and protect the people's. You Know First Amendment Rights to peacefully assemble in protest while simultaneously having the responsibility of protecting the safety of those people and the people around him. It's not an easy job. I I. Don't know that I've seen only a peaceful protest at this point I mean. How peaceful is it? When the front row of these peaceful protests are people chanting FTP middle fingering the police in chucking water bottles, Adam I mean that's the examples of the peaceful protests that no, it's not. Samples of all the. No, it's not your sample. That's what I watched. That's been what I've seen on TV. I'm selling their walking. Fans No, no, no I watch everything I'm watching all channels. Okay well, you gotta here taking notes on all of them. Yeah okay listen. That's standard for cops. Has To be much higher. That's part of the problem. The problem is cops have to have the intelligence and the integrity to have a higher standard, your first move cat be to walk down the streets of Minneapolis and say light them up when there's people on their porches, taking videos of them. That can't be your first move. Well the first move can't be to. Turn tail and leave the precinct either when demonstrators enter it I, actually hey. I think part of the problem with the aftermath of this situation. Is that in the first few days of this? They were too accepting of the behavior. There wasn't a tough enough stance by police. You know and I think that that essentially created a situation that let the bad guys believed that it was open season on anything that goes, and it also simultaneously conveyed to citizens that were counting on police. Tommy to keep the peace that they're sort of on their own to a certain degree that was certainly the case in Minneapolis in the first few days with that mayor who ordered those police to abandon precinct. Tell me in the history of our country in recent modern times where police ran away from their own precinct. Out The first days. shiftless were terribly mismanaged and that they contribute to. You know making things worse later on and they're still were look. Some bad bears I mean they're in New York deeply. Loss loss Yeah, he i. mean last night said. People were going up and down the streets in New York breaking into stores and stuff like that and the police are nowhere to be found. A terrible. It's I mean that's where again you know. I know that there are examples. I'm sure of police overstepping their bounds, and you're right I. This this riot control thing I don't know what the proper protocol is. I'm sure that there has to be a ton of unbelievable patients exercised by the authorities in these situations, because certainly yes, the the television that I've watched on all of the networks because I flip around all of it I watched even in the so-called very peaceful settings. Settings a lot of antagonizing. You know a lot of by the way a lot of people. They're interested in in almost just sort of recording it on their iphones for posterity that goes for the violence to like a lot of the writing in vandalizing and looting video that you've seen. There are maybe less ill-intentioned people observing in the background, but seeming to get a rise out of it. They recorded on on their iphones. I don't. Find I don't understand. I, saw a lot of people trying to stop the riots I've seen some of that, too. I've seen some of that, too, and I've seen a lot of people standing by Vit- with their iphones out in fact I jokingly said, and this is a joke. This tommy soccer crowd these the people that love that aren't sports fans that adopt the World Cup in the watch parties because they want to be a part of something and all they do is video the whole thing, but no in all seriousness. What the answer is I mean there's so many things going on. And the the George Floyd thing being the most heartbreaking thing in wanting those police officers including the ones that haven't been charged yet to pay the price severely with decades in jail I, hope that happens. And at the same time you know. We've got people who are taking advantage of this situation and most Americans, I think want Derek Show van, and the rest of those officers on the scene in Minneapolis to pay dearly for what they did and I think most Americans also right now are unnerved by what they're watching every night on television. I think both of those. True. I think there's a group of Americans who think that America should be unnerved. Finally that's true, but do you. Do you approve of the means of those people that feel America's should be unnerved and and how they're making America feel unnerved. Do you don't and I? Don't think innocent people and business owners should have to suffer damage as a result of it, but I under I I understand motion for some of them. Look Summer. Just guys trying to just criminal. What percentage of them? The by. Committing, these crimes can take a guess. I. Guess you think it's the majority taking the majority of people you think the majority of people who are looting and vandalizing. And and creating mayhem are doing it because they are so unnerved in upset angry over the George Floyd, murder or not. Now, but it gives them cover to. Okay! Yeah, that's that that would be my answer to I. Don't think it's going, George I? Think the majority of people are set the really want their anger and their emotion to be felt peacefully in a in a legal way I. think that's the majority of the people that are out there. Yeah I, totally agree with you. I totally agree with you. I think the majority of people that are creating mayhem couldn't give a shit about George Floyd. The bigger issue and what kicked all this off? Was the police brutality. brutality particular among people of Color. And a smart president like in an and nineteen in the early sixties, or what was it sixty, eight or sixty four? There was A national commission that was organized by LBJ. Yeah, I think by LBJ basically into study, you know the the underlying factors in civil unrest and I think look every President Obama included has not wanted to touch the idea of police brutality. There's been. There's been I. I covered cops for fifteen years. He's. DISCLAIMER out there. I've ridden along with cops on patrol. In Four states I've been on undercover operations with cops. I've been on special tactical forces with police. A friend of mine soap LAMONICA. State trooper was shot in the face at a traffic. Stop on on Route Eighty in New Jersey I covered I. think close to a lot of cops. There's been an epidemic of police violence in this country for for years. For for years, and it's and not minute black lives matter because it's absolutely true. It's ten fifteen twenty times worse. For for people of Color, but I. For, anybody? In a certain situation when they're stopped by police. I don't people white black otherwise who have experienced that kind of that kind of police brutality? I mean it's. It's a problem across the if you're why. You should be worried about it, too. Because I'm betting. You've got a friend or relative. Some work or acquaintance or know of somebody along the way somewhere was mistreated by a cop. I mean. This murder of George. Floyd was terrible. It was terrible in every single time. It happens. You know we're not. This isn't being introduced to the country. This this idea. This of of police brutality towards African Americans. We've been living through a decade after decade in over the last decade, really the last twenty years in particular because we've got the ability to video a lot of this stuff, it's become. You know a four five six times a year. Thing I I also believe in my heart of hearts that most policemen and women are probably not that way. You know that this is an you know. The you don't have to paint with a broad brush and say that they're all racists that they all are brutal. I just. Actually true either, but it's deep rooted Cultural Problem Within Police Department within law. And why do you think that? I don't know I I don't I? Don't know why. I mean I I, don't I? would be part. No, I don't on this one, but again this this would be. This would be what a leader would do say. We've had this problem for decades. You know and we need to establish and I know. This is a Cliche, but they need to. They need to have a document in hand. Created by experts in these fields on on all sides. So be able to say this is the problem. This is how we tackle it as a blueprint for police departments around the country to to to to stop this and it, it's. It's a deep-rooted thing. T to the original portion of this conversation. Somebody's gotTA figure out a solution to this and ain't easy, but she got to figure out exactly what has happened with real data like real information about what this problem's been quantifying it. How how pervasive is police, brutality and racism in police departments in law enforcement around the country? And how do we rooted out? And keep it from coming back. It's it's all about hiring. Well actually. I mean a lot of people would say it's all about. And the more outside oversight you have. the less. The. Let you're gotTa have these kinds of situations? What's outside oversight? Mean people our profession. They industry in in. Civilian, review boards things like that. look. I everyone had. They have to acknowledge that there is a problem to fix. There's a lot of police departments that would tell you. There is no problem the fit, right. There's a lot of research out there. That would tell you that the the problem is a problem, but it's not what everybody thinks it is in terms of the number is. But, not not the problem does not need. Somebody's kill the problem. Is You're somebody's stopped? You're right at a traffic percent. For something that you and I would not be stopped for I know enough people and I've had this conversation enough times with friends of mine who are black and we and I it always breaks my heart to hear how they view being pulled over, and how they have to have conversations with their kids in their sons in particular about how to handle that kind of situation that I've never had to have with any of my boys now. You suggested that I do have that conversation with my boys, but I've never felt compelled to. I've never had a problem. No never being political remember what happened to. Remember what happened in. College Park with the riots. there were a lot of people that got got hurt by by police. Maryland you're talking about after the Maryland do game. In two thousand ten, we'll yeah friend of mine's son. A white kids student got this shit absolutely kicked him by the PG County Police Avi, I people who that has happened to so my point is wild, it is. Much much worse for people of Color and we can't even begin to understand how bad it for them right? This is a problem that everybody should take seriously, because it's probably affected somebody you know somewhere wider black. You know being being sensitive to this being an issue wanting it to change Is, one thing what the solution is an is another you know. Outside oversight is suggested hiring differently what I suggested. I don't know what it is i. can tell you this time in. You know this because you spent time and I know this because I know I have a very good friend of mine whose brother is been in the DC. Police Department is entire life and a spent many many times over the years having. Having some of these conversations about what they face on a daily basis in putting their lives at risk every day. It's not an easy job and you know, and that's why I guess I I got a little bit frustrated earlier that I'm watching, you know as everyone else is on TV and everybody's got a different perspective, and I want to believe and I do believe that the majority of people are angered. They're hurt and they're there. For Change that they are there to exercise their their constitutional first amendment. Right to peacefully assemble and protest in the name of George Floyd but we are also here over the last several days we've had as much unrest and as little push back in those first few days as we've ever seen, and I would say is what concerns me is when you go from turning over a police precinct to a bunch of demonstrators. What's next you know and when you start shooting police officers in Saint Louis and when you are, you know smashing windows and setting fires, two churches in stores in New York City Washington. To me, we do have to look to yes a person that doesn't have very much in the way of leadership skills. But we do typically need our leaders to figure out a way to protect this and to and to minimize the unrest, while also securing the right for people to protest, but it's getting very murky out there. Here's the. Day. That oath police officers on those frontline. Those people are standing there yelling at you because they think you're the enemy. They. Think you're the enemy, which is a bizarre concept about it. The people who were hired to protect you are considered the enemy. You need to change that. How do you feel about? How do you feel about in these situations? And I think we've all observe this. We've all observed it the situations where you know, if not the majority, the near majority of protesters in sometimes the most provoking, antagonistic or white. This is unique for this particular last week. I don't know that we've always seen this I think we've seen more of this in recent years, but we've seen a lot of it over the last couple of days so long last night and Farragut Square. Oh, yeah, absolutely. They haven't felt what we just described. African Americans have felt. A, why do they believe that? I. BELIEVE POLICES THE ENEMY? The enemy again I hope they don't believe that and I I hope that they understand that in this particular case I bet you. Most of those police are thinking that that Guy Derek show vans at terrible murder to and that they don't want to be associated with somebody like that. But, but but but there have been too many times where this has happened. In the past where nobody from the police departments have spoken up, this is a very unusual situation shaft so much outspokenness about this and still none from the union. Why even the police what? The big problem right there. Why do you think that there's been so much sort of unanimous opinion on this? Misprint one. It was difficult to come up with another side. Jump things are indefensible. Yeah now that's said. He was thrice with third degree murder, and I think that's problem to water. And he was charged with that because and the prosecutors probably right. He, doesn't he or she don't think they can get a conviction on on a first or second degree on second degree murder. They don't think they can I mean because have been other juries and other cases where they've been unable to get convictions murder convictions, so he went for you know the bottom of the rung manslaughter and third degree murder because and he's probably right. I'm assuming it's a man could be a woman. I forgive me if I'm wrong. Wrong that they're probably right that that's their best chance of getting a conviction based on the history of juries, being unwilling to convict police officers, and it's at prosecutors, being unwilling to put forth strong cases because prosecutors have to work with police officers. It seems like once the motion would be. There should be a special special attorneys group in the Justice Department on a federal level that is brought in to prosecute these cases in every jurisdiction of the country. The prosecuting the prosecutor's office works to close the Police Department to early nate them. Yeah well in this particular case, the FBI is in. Yet you know they're the DOJ. There is going to be. There is going to be a federal charge coming more likely than the federal charge, but I'm saying it's always difficult for local prosecutors. Because of their close relationship with the police, it should be on the book as a standard anytime. This comes up. It goes to a federal investigation. I'll tell you what. I. Don't think if they had come out the two days later with a first degree murder charge. It would that it would have stopped a lot of what we've seen on the bad side here over the last several days. Well. I don't know if you even if they I charts the other three cop wise. I don't think it would have stopped this book part of it is. Part of it as the guy in the White House. Look I have a problem is well I. think he is an absolute. Horrible leader and narcissists are never good leaders in crisis situations we want. I think everybody understands that. It's always about them, not about us. That's the problem we've seen that. Over the last three and a half months with that said we've had these situations over the last several presidents Democrat and Republican presidents. You know loved. Presidents despised presidents popular president's unpopular presidents. I will grant you that. This particular issue is unique in a lot of different ways. Starting with. We were all in agreement. There was. Total unanimous, this guy's a murderer. He needs to go to jail and so do the people that stood by and watched it, and since then it's devolved into an unbelievable situation that is by the way Tommy. Come at a time where we have horrible, you know unemployment job loss, desperation people out of work people who've just gone through a a two and a half to three month lockdown. There's a lot at work in this one a lot of it and I'm not going to dismiss the impact that the man in the White House has either. He's divisive in his rhetoric. This this speech on twitter on Saturday was cowardly. All right on the you. You will not get me to defend him at all, but you're not gonNA. Get me to defend the people out there smashing. Setting Fire people either and act like it's based solely on on the guy in the White House it's. Much more. I didn't say that I said he had. He has fueled it. About about about the atmosphere, the pandemic and people being locked up and people losing their jobs and stuff, and I tell you what else has contributed to it. We could use a lot of rain in these cities the last couple of days. All weather if it didn't porn down in defeat last couple of nights, I don't think you've seen the same thing. It is a lot coming together here. I mean it's it's these are. I mentioned this story yesterday. Because I'm pretty sure I told you this story. like a year ago I got into this argument with family member, who was absolutely convinced that these were the most divisive, most polarizing scariest of times this year year, and a half ago and I said come on man, eight half of her cities were burning down. We had a civil war in this country but fast forward a year later not that he saw this necessarily coming, but you know the first major pandemic in almost one hundred years, or over a hundred years and. This sort of sitting powder keg that's exploded in the wake of something that everybody agreed on like. You would have been one thing if you had people out there defending the police actions. If you had people saying we gotta and see, there's context there's there's a back story here. We gotta wait. No one was saying this. Everybody watched that video in. Everybody heard that poor man. Ask for his breath. Tell him telling him he can't breathe. Crying out for his mother. Is just awful. What Derek Show van in those other officers? Did this man awful and at the same time the unrest in our cities? Now you know over the last several nights is unfortunately the behavior of to me. Criminals Opportunists who really for the most part, don't give a shit about George Floyd. And that's got to be stopped to. Yet does. Yet does but not I mean, but but I mean the images the image that we saw. Of Trump yesterday walking over to the Church and before that the police chief from accounts. Wearing out a peaceful group of permits up protests know. No your accounts. Okay, I know where your accounts come from. There are a lot of different accounts on that including three specific warnings to cleared out because you had in a curfew that was imminent. You know three different attempts to cleared back you had you had a couple of scuffles? You had a lot of FTP chance you had water bottles. Being hurled into that situation, it was not a bunch of. It wasn't one hundred percent across the board peaceful people that weren't told to move in stone. Not. J that's like it's not one hundred percent of people of police officers who decided to punch out a cameraman Yeah I got I got in the way, right. It was one. Yeah, just just like it. Wasn't you know in this particular situation? Police backing off and saying you guys do what you want, which happened the first three or four nights of this deal of the? What! What what? What on Lafayette Park? Yesterday has nothing to do with with what the police didn't do in. Minneapolis! Well I sat there, and watched that whole thing and one I don't think that it was totally peaceful as it was described, and as you said from all of your accounts I don't think that it was particularly. You know combative or volatile, either I'm just saying that to paint it. As everybody was down on their knees peacefully protesting and you know that's not true. The the accounts multiple accounts suggest that they are. Creating that no, I'm not exaggerating. I'm not exaggerating the way it was described by many no! No I'm not. There was no violence taking place. There was no violence on the on the on from protesters. Taking place. There was also movement when they were asked to move. So, what do you what do you? What do you do? I don't know you tell me I. Don't know what the protocol. Lewis you tell the president to get back in fucking White House and you leave them there. I don't mind. That is the answer. I don't mind that as the answer. But but I also don't WanNa hear that these people were totally To do whatever they were asked to do without any violence or any pushback or any antagonism. If look I think that's an exaggerated you which view that you just described? Yeah. I think they were just. People that said that we're exaggerating. I agree yeah. Yeah, okay. I thought you were saying that I was exaggerating it. No, the people that said that we're exaggerating it and they painted it that way after the fact, but again. Here's the truth on all of this stuff. We're not there. You're not there and even if we were, we still probably wouldn't have all the answers just like I don't know if this. Or I don't know if this is white supremacists I. Don't know if they're right. Wing extremists, left-wing extremists are just local opportunists that are taking advantage of the situation and I. Don't think anybody knows for sure right now I. Don you're right I? Think with all the information. No, for sure. Here's what we do know for sure right? Here's what we do. Know for sure. There's some bad people out there doing some bad things right now and they've got to be stopped. They do they've got to be stopped? Because we ne- and with people are sad and concerned about what happened last week in Minneapolis, and now they are concerned about their own well, being in the well being of their businesses and families, and you can tell me that you gotta feel uncomfortable, so there are people out there that WanNa. Make you feel uncomfortable. That's fine. I felt uncomfortable before, but what you're GONNA get is you're going to get a whole lot of people that are concerned in also willing to fight back, and that's when in these in these situations you end up with more than just civil unrest. You end up with a lot worse. You rely on your your government, local and federal to. Keep you protected in these situations? Let's see if they can handle it. But anyway what else? I got nothing else, but I'm getting ready to move. You're moving tomorrow. Are You doing the? Moving company. My Days of college moving or are over I. mean there's nothing worse than moving. And we're moving to the fifteen minutes away to a condo and Frederick. Did you call friends? In the last couple of days to say, hello see how they're doing. Actually I spoke to Pat Gillick a couple of days ago, really eighty to eighty two years old, and still doing scouting when he came for the phillies. And you reached out to Pat Gillick. You've got quite the ROLODEX W. I called him and he wasn't hold and then ten minutes later, he called me. That's really nice. We've had a great relationship with Pat Ever since he was in Baltimore with the Orioles, we went out to dinner one night at at a little Italy and Polish off a Shitload, a wine and we've been tight ever since. And I guess what I finished my screenplay, finely all right. Yeah, so so so let's it I know you. You know a lot of important rich people in the movie business. So I'm I'm hoping that you're going to be over to help me out with this thing. You know. I'd like to read it I. I'd like to make sure it's not like threat level midnight here I'd. The make sure it's not a Michael Smart, special. I WANNA make sure it's professionally done, and then I'll help you out I. CAN'T I? Don't know anybody that can help you out. I'd love. I I'll. I'll get copy I forget it registered I with the writers. Field of America to make sure nobody steals it, and then I'll get a copy and is that what is that what you do to protect it is that? Yeah Yeah Yeah. How did you even know that? I mean I know that for years. I mean look I wrote a couple of short stories, thirty or forty years ago, that wound up getting bought to be made into movies. For very small price and they never got made. But so I knew that from back then. I just have that now interesting. good luck with the move. I'll talk to you on Thursday. All right bought healthy. We're done for the day I'll be back tomorrow.

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Unstoppable

The Stephen A. Smith Show

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Unstoppable

"When it comes to Harvey. You don't have time to waste you need help getting the shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot com post a job in minutes set of screening questions. The zeroing qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard, and what you need to hire a fast accelerate your results with sponsored jobs. New users can try for free at indeed dot com slash podcast. That's indeed dot com slash podcast, terms, and conditions and quality standards apply. You'll seem to the Stephen Smith show podcast. Joe is being brought to you by indeed used by over three million businesses for hiring post a job today at indeed dot com slash Higham time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones. Best networks, no contracts. You saw last night. You saw it last night. You saw that show. That James harden put on display James harden, unquestionably the league leader right now for league MVP honors unquestionably one of the greatest scores of this generation unquestionably. The greatest scorer in a game of basketball today showed up at the mecca last night Madison Square Garden, it the home turf of the New York Knicks and showed out the way Kobe Bryant wants did a few years ago. James harden, dropped sixty one James harden. And did what he wanted when he wanted how he wanted to wherever he damn well pleased and the Houston Rockets ended up escaping. A one fourteen one ten victory over the New York. Knicks the relatively hapless New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden last night. As a result, the Houston Rockets or twenty seven and twenty they're doing what they have been doing. We have seen it. We have witnessed it we marvel at it every single day. There's really you're just running out of superlatives to say about this brother, James hotter. Seventeen thirty eight from the field. That's nearly forty five percent only connecting on five of twenty three pointers attempted twenty three pointers. Ultimately, hit twenty to twenty five free throws at twenty five free throws had fifteen rebounds, four sist- five steals and the Houston Rockets while plus nineteen when James Hardie was on the floor and just some of you out there that don't understand. So you could appreciate a lot of things. I appreciate most about James harden is that he's an MVP playing like an MVP. He wasn't some one year trick police in one year wonder who suddenly disappeared and fell off the map. He's reminding you why he was the league MVP last year. He's also keeping the Houston Rockets relevant at the present moment, their fifth seed in the Western Conference play picture. But to watch this guy perform to watch the Khanna show that he puts on display is just something to marvel at to tell you right now. I'm just go read from this article. You can look at it on ESPN dot com. The must see numbers from James Harden's incredible hot streak. That's the headline for this article. Okay. We haven't seen the scoring streak like this. This the nineteen sixties. He had thirty six points in the first half. Extending history of thirty point games long before half-time. I'm going to go on. It's the fifth town that hard and has scored at least thirty five points and a half in his career. The only player with more such have over the past twenty years is Coby Bryan. Last night, sixty one point if it was a career high sixty one it was it Todd Kobe Bryant for the most by visiting player at our version of medicine squad laser gentlemen, that means it was Michael Jordan scored at Madison Square Garden member. When he came back out of retirement and dropped the double nickel on the New York. Knicks. I was there. It was a sensational performance the garden the modern day version of Madison Square Garden and opened up in nineteen sixty eight the two top scores in Madison Square Garden history for visiting player was Kobe Bryant and tape Todd. Fifth play in NBA history to record multiple sixty point games. Joining Elgin Baylor who had three Michael Jordan, wet for Kobe Bryant who had six and Wilt Chamberlain who had started to. Hot. And also Todd Rick berry with this fourteenth career fifty point Dane, only Baylor seventeen Bryant twenty-five, Jordan, thirty one and we'll Chamberlain with one hundred eighteen had more fifty point games. The sixty one point game last night gave heart and twenty one consecutive games with at least thirty points passing will Chamberlain for the fourth longest streak in NBA history. Still trails three different Chamberlain streets. The clued in a record setting sixty five game run Chamberlain put up in nineteen sixty one sixty two the season. The average fifty point four points per gay. Will they night last night was the fifth consecutive game in which all of his points came without the benefit of an assist. So James harden at scored two hundred and sixty one points without an assist. To assist him. It's going those points, which means he scored it on his own, which means basically, Mike that Tony's giving them the ball and saying just do you? That's what's going on here. He's recorded gains of fifty seven fifty eight and sixty one points nor the play in the past twenty years has scored more than fifty points without the benefit of an assist. He's averaging thirty six point three points per game this season. And forty five in a month of January laser gentlemen. There's nothing to talk about here. James harden is on a run the capture a second consecutive league MVP on his he is nothing short of sensational offensively. He can put the ball on the floor. He's got a nasty handle. He's got a mid range game. He's got a long range game. He can pull up from thirty. He could pull up from twenty or fifteen. Oh, by the way, he could get to the free throw line anytime. He wants to because he's a magician a master at drawing fouls evidence by the twenty five free throws. He ended up taking last night. He's that gifted. Now, what does all of that amount to? My response would be certainly nothing more than last year could the Houston Rockets ended up going to the Western Conference finals. Sure would they win. Hell now, they'd be go to stay cancer that because in case, no one has noticed. Steph Curry's averaging nearly thirty forty eight percent shooting. From the field. Forty four percent shooting from three point range. Oh, by the way. Did you see that Klay? Thompson shooting slump has over. Oh, by the way, did you notice that when Steph curry or Klay Thompson is quietly doing something or rather making noise doing a whole bunch some do by the name of Kevin Durant, just quietly stroz along modern his good old business and he's dropping twenty seven. Really religiously. I mean, you just can't make this up. Were you looking Kevin Durant? And what he's bringing to the table. I'm telling you right now, you gotta mobile at it. I don't know what y'all been watching. But I'm telling you set the right now, I'm looking at Kevin Durant at some of these numbers. Okay. Laser gentlemen, this quietly quietly. This is Kevin Durant. Twenty nine twenty four twenty to twenty eight twenty seven thirty twenty four is what he's been doing this quietly going about the business of minding his own business and being incredibly efficient at what he does ninety percent for the free throw line. Fifty one percent from the field. Thirty eight percent of point range. That's Kevin Durant averaging twenty eight seven and six this year. This is wild Klay Thompson exploded this Steph Curry's exploding. Kevin Durant quietly. I'm average twenty eight seven six. You can't make this up. I don't give a damn what James harder this doing one on one basketball. With James harden and dancing on everybody and destroy people is not going to be the Golden State Warriors. It will not happen. It will not happen. But having said that that's not even my biggest concern. Have a big concern. And a bigger concern is that of the Los Angeles Lakers. Lebron James is scheduled to miss his fifteenth game coming up this would suffice as the most significant injury and the career of LeBron James at some point time. He's going to come back at some point in time. The Lakers are going to be a better basketball team because he is back. They're gonna make the playoffs. They're not gonna miss the players as a gentleman. There's no need to worry about that. But here's where things get very very interesting. If you all abroad, James and the loss Angeles Lakers has it. The Tom arrived where you should be worried about what talent you can get to join LeBron James in LA. The bronze has faith. Magic johnson. Rob pelinka? Lebron James is aware of what needs to be done. We get all of that the flip side to it is that if you're a marquee free agent is beautiful as the southern California sunshine is Anna palm trees and rodeo drive in the Beverly Wilshire, and Venice beach and Palisades Parkway and L A law, the list goes on and on as nice as all of that is how attractive all the Los Angeles Lakers to you Anthony Davis to a limit to a Kevin Durant to a car, ry, Irvine, etc. How attractive all the loss Angeles Lakers, if the health of LeBron James suddenly becomes a huge question, Mark. Now, there's anybody that I have faith in. Recovers? Lebron James what no matter what we want to marvel at what we should marvel at most is the man's willingness to take care of himself to never cheat you with effort and to always take care of his body. But we can't ignore the fact that this arguably the most I'm sorry, not even arguable the most significant injury LeBron James career. And I don't know where we go from. I don't know what we take from that. But I don't believe it's a foregone conclusion that the marquee free agents out. There are going to clamor to LA if the brunt doesn't show to these healthy ready to go. So you consider them out, and you can take all the necessary precautions, and I'm not gonna not that. But at some point, Tom we need to see the king. We use thinking James we'd see him back on the court. It's just that simple at an eight say ESPN, it's today. Seven to nine three seven services as a side note my condolences to the New York Knicks who continue to find ways to lose games. And I guess that's the plan because you want to position yourself to get to the most ping pong balls which would be Zion. Williamson and I get that part. I truly truly do. But there's no guarantee that you'll get him. Because those pingpong balls for the draft lottery having said all of that. I don't know what to make these things. I'm very worry. I'm worried about the Knicks ability to get a marquee to join Kristaps Porzingis who we haven't seen much of. I'm skeptical. About whether or not the New York Knicks are going to land someone of substance to join their franchise. Because the truth of the matter is there's nothing that attractive about the right now. If would be an honest. Is nothing that attractive about them right now. And would that be in the reality? I'm kinda wondering where the hell do they go from here? I'm kind of wondering about it. Because as I look at the Knicks right now. And the dollars that they have on their books. You got cantered eighteen point six million. He wants out he wants to be traded because he's tired of being benched. We got Tim Hardaway who I think is worth as dollars tomorrow. We could play is making seventeen point three million one one next year and a player option that eighteen point nine and a couple of years. I think he's earned that. We wonder about pausing is whether or not even wants to come back. You've got Kevin Knox who started off slow, but it's been balling. But if you the New York Knicks, what are you have to sell? What do you have to offer? And the reason why ask that question is because these gentlemen Brooklyn that's one fifth game in a row last night. Be no Orlando Magic, the Brooklyn. Nets have been balling, somebody better Bray attention, somebody better pay attention to the jobs for I'm sure all marks and Kenny Atkinson la-z-boys doing your better pay attention. And by the way, where you look at their books right now, they're expected to have over sixty million available and cap space. They're expected to have that de ngelo. Russell is balling give the man his respect which do LA how you feel about him being going now if they've of Alonzo ball. How do you feel about that? I don't feel good about it. If I'm the Angelo Russell is balling, ladies and gentlemen, somebody better pay attention. Jared Allen, this shot blocked extraordinaire means only making two million dollars. And he do to make two point three nights there. Somebody. They gave the Dinwiddie some money, but guess what it ain't gonna blow away your cap is not going to prevent them from doing what they need to do tomorrow. Carol is at fifty four million. But he's in the last year this deal. I'm just looking at the right now. They bought out Kenneth Farid. So he could go to Houston. Look, they got some money. And they got a young team that can play with a coach that can coach. What an executive knows how to run a basketball operations. I got news for you. When you look at the tree of pop of it, you know, because of the Buddha and of the world that come from him Demonte Williams of the world because the Browns and Philly that come for Popovich. That's a hell of a lot better tree than Bill Bella texts in New England. I'm telling you right now. I mean, this stuff is impressive. The brooklyn. That's a scare the hell out of me because I've been a lifelong Knicks fan, but I am fair. I I've said a less we to get and I'm gonna keep saying it as long as they keep proving it, I'm incredibly impressed with what I see the Brooklyn. That's doing this is something special who out Sacramento about twenty nine other day. I was raving about them and Sacramento. And then they said this though, put Sacramento class watch what we do against and bloom out. Somebody better pay attention to these nets. And nobody should be paying attention to them more than the Knicks. Because of the net end up getting one of these more key guys and the next no one. The Knicks finished. If the Knicks don't get the number one overall, ping or number two overall where their position the draft Asya Williamson RJ Barrett. Plus, they don't get a marquee free agent this off season. Oh my God. We got a problem. We got a problem. I'm just let you know. It eight say ESPN eight seven two three seven seven six. Let me transition to a different subject because I was a bit of noise this morning, and I'm just gonna share why. Derek carr. Derek Carr is the starting quarterback for the Oakland Raiders. And he took the liberty of going on Twitter last night and going off about myself from my man, max Kellerman on I take which is every weekday morning from today. Twelve noon we as from. No noone a two on the ESPN two plus throughout the night. Airs on seven to nine AM Pacific. Maximum I want I take max brought up something about David car. Said that it looked like he was you know, he had quit. Those kind of things they're call obviously took offence to that. Derek call went on golick and wingo after his tweets last night. And here is Derek Hough on golick and wingo talking about max, Kellerman more. So than me, listen to this question might desire and want to this man, never talked to me and my entire life. Never worked out with me. He's never woke up early with me to study to go and play hurt and all these kind of things. And so, you know, you can say whatever you want about performance and all that that's his job. And I understand that. But when you start talking about man's character and wanted to desire, you know, that's just the different story. And I don't think there's anybody holding these guys accountable when they go off on those kinds of pants, and so I'm just someone that loves the truth. I got love for the guy. But at the same time that doesn't mean you can't held accountable when you just completely wrong about someone's desire are weren't too. I love Oakland. I love our team, and I've never done anything. But give it a city are my very best. He's more than welcome to come to the house together spare. Bedroom. He can come hang out in you can get this work in with me. You know, I'm I'm completely open to that. And I think that would change his mind. And again, I nor everything ignore everything that anybody's ever said good or bad. You know, it doesn't bother me. But when you start talking about me as a man that stuff, I'm going to have to explain to my kids, if they ever Google search it, and you know, the, you know, that's just stuff. I don't want to deal with and that's just stuff that ain't true. And so that's the only problem. I had is that you know, you can get you can give me to a certain point, you know. But you know, that that was a little too much. That's what Derek Carr had to say. After his tweets. I personally took issue with the tweets that he sent last night. I can understand anybody coming into the defensively own manhood. I didn't think max question that. I think he talked about what he saw and said that's how it looked to him. But Nevertheless, I took issue with what Derek Carr had to say. He said to Dana white president of the euro, see, hey, how do I challenge? A couple of these clowns on TV to a fight. I think we should start a business together. We're pro athletes can challenge some of these people to an octagon fight until they give us an answer. You don't know me stop lying, then he goes on to say, it's because I blocked them both for talking trash about our team. Those two clowns don't know anything about this game would love to actually sit and breakdown film with these two on TV just to show the viewers. How incompetent lacking qualification? They are. Are about our game. That's what Derek Carr said. This was my response on. I do we have that cat. Play with our said on. I take this morning police. I will meet up with Derek Carr anytime anyday anywhere to discuss what his career has been. And since he said, he loves faxed Derek costs that he loves facts. Let me give them to you. Derek call ranked twenty seven of thirty three quarterbacks at the National Football League this year, forty eight point nine QBR. All right. Pat's rating ranked eighteenth out of thirty three and his five years in the National Football League have been losing seasons. He's had one he broke his fibula with MVP. And I recall both maximize self acknowledging this dude is in line of winning MVP before he went down with that broken fibula, we acknowledge that. But since that moment atop you haven't been that impressive pick six two sections on the three ball throw balls in the ground. Need an eight yard for I down throwing for three yards making questionable decisions starting off the season one at eight those. Facts. Now, according to Derek Carr. He should love me because I just gave fat. I didn't stop there. I wanted to save the rest of this radio show. You see it's not about Derek Kat. It's a big issue, Derek. 'cause emblematic of that issue. First of all you play in public. You're not playing in private. So everybody's did the watcher exploits or lack thereof number two. Not only is that the truth. And that's the case. But also it helped get you paid when we were talking about ever causing MVP candidate. He had nothing to say when we talked about him being worth to twenty five million dollars that he's getting paid per season. He didn't complain about that he didn't say anything about that. My issue with Derek call. However has nothing to do with him and his insults. It's the clownish part or whatever you say stuff like that. Okay. Fine, which bringing up kids for so. In other words, you're worried about your kids Google searching, somebody questioning your character. But you call us. Clowns and challenge folks to a fight in a UFC for crying out loud. Because you don't like what was said about you. Why don't you go to hell up? How about that? The fact that the Matt is you're starting quarterback in the National Football League. Everything that's happened to the rate is the season is not your fault. We understand it was a questionable offensive line. We understand new things commandingly may not necessarily evolved. What you initially the way you would have liked that might have contributed to a one eight start. We understand that there's a pope array of things that come into the equation, and it's not a one-man gain. But the reality of the situation is you're being paid like somebody who can overcome those things you're being paid like somebody who's telling the so elite that you're worth getting rid of Khalil Mack. You're worth getting rid of Amari Cooper. You're worth this franchise building around you. But you haven't gotten it done five years and the National Football League you've had one winning season period doesn't affect now you got guys that will come out, and they'll sit up to low to take you down. You don't know anything about football. We know what we need to know. We can sit up there with facts the steer you in the face. You'd still deny it. We can sit up there and say, you know, what you ain't got enough after blonde or you got receivers they can't catch or you got running backs can't run you deny that. 'cause you don't wanna call out your teammate. Oh, you coach can't coach. I'm not saying that about Jon Gruden because I know he could coach, but we could say something like you still wouldn't admit it if it were true because that would be calling out one of your one of the guys you go to war wit, supposedly. So you're not going to be honest about it. Anyway. And not only that is amazing. How you talk about us. I guess it's because we win. I guess it's because we get ratings I guess because we resume. That's why you were talking about us. But in the end when it comes down to is that your two sets of their quarterback in the National Football League. And if you're gonna be sensitive to the point where you're going to sit up the talk about protecting your kids from Google stuff about you where your reputation could be impugned. How come you didn't think about Max's kids? How come you think about mine will you? Will you call clowns and you set up there and challenge us to a fight? And by the way, if you're a big boy, and you big bold in bed. You trust them UFC fighter to a fight. How about the NFL analyst who played football who called you out? Because if it's the NFL network is FOX CBS NBC ESPN. I can't recall a damn network or piece of personnel on any of those networks that has something nice to say about the Oakland Raiders this season. And last time I checked most of the he was coming into the wretched of Jon Gruden. All of these things things to consider and all of these things that things to wonder about. But in the end, here's what it comes down to Derek Carr. Do you're damn job. Your job is to win period. That's why you get paid the big bucks in machos profession a winning. Winning. Oh, you did. You do your job. Did you? I don't recall that not in recent memory. Derek Kok play Derek. 'cause no scrub. Derek Carr got paid because Derek caucus play. And each when twelve and three in over fifteen games. Before breaking his right is is fibula. That's the only good year that Derek had the National Football League period. With some damn games. For you start talking about somebody. Because I ain't going to win. But, you know, something now there's a whole bunch NFL folks who talked about you. You didn't mention them. You didn't call them clans. And we quoted then we're talking about you. But you left them out. Wonder why that is you listen to loud to Stephen a Smith show, ESPN radio ESPN news. I was straight talk wireless nationwide. Coverage in America's largest most dependable for G. 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Murray Commits... To The NFL

Around the Horn

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Murray Commits... To The NFL

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British news Monday, we got Cuyler Murray following his soul. Science warriors, and snatching souls and Bill Walton eating souls with a candle on up. Here's the panel. Here comes the drop. Let's go round the hord. Although Grateful Dead concert. Every scouts ability close at that law. I am the franchise QB of this draft and with that this afternoon. Cuyler Murray announcing he's only with full with the aid someone to start with you. You you talked to Kyla Murray during the postseason awards scout football last year. You're talking about baseball. You talk to them about football, you know, whereas heart was, but what about this move today? I think it makes sense from a financial standpoint. But it is a big indicator of a major problem for major league baseball never mind. The Oakland Athletics Cuyler said when I talked to him baseball is hard to watch. It's hard to get her game. And it's kind of boring if that guy who's top ten pick in the draft believes that about the game, you have a huge issue on your hands. But overall, I think from a personal choice election. This makes says he pleaded Alan highschool. There's an eighteen thousand seat stadium at his high school team. He went to Oklahoma. He won the Heisman. He understands the bright lights. It makes sense that he would want to go to the NFL at this stage. It was life because it's plainly probably going to be more fun. So I don't knock him for this. But I think if you're major league baseball, you think man, we really had a chance to have a star in our hands. We let them slip away some fourteen. Doug. I sola. Well, fun could have something to do with it. But I still think it comes down to finance. You know, he's going to the Oakland. A's can't be would have been a non roster invitee. So he says no guaranteed making the team. In fact, he's probably going to start out in single and think about how many steps you have to take to finally be really making the big money in baseball where now in the NFL it's a win now league more so than ever especially for quarterback. Look at these coaches getting fired after one and two years. He's a high draft pick. He's going to have a chance to play right away in the NFL. I think they had a lot to do with plus your member he could always go back and play baseball. What you pidge? He's totally right. That he is the quote franchise quarterback. If you look there four teams, including the dolphins that are represented here and the Broncos and that desperately needed a quarterback in so one of those teams Washington included giants Jacksonville actually five that are looking for somebody if he'd come out last year or next year he wouldn't be the franchise quarterback and looking at him. But I think that he has the opportunity if he's a good quarterback looking at Russell Wilson, he probably wants to emulate him that he could accomplish what he wants to in football and be a Super Bowl quarterback. If he does he's going to get one hundred and fifty million dollars. Just like he could if he's a great outfielder in major league baseball. So I like his decision. I like the fact that he's finally talking about it rather than just sitting back at a chase tears. What are you? I didn't know you actually represent the Denver Broncos. Kyla Mary just made the right decision for him. It felt like what he wants to do if you actually read the message you talked about, you know, growing up accu- be really wanting to be one. And obviously, you never really know if he thought he had the bills for it. Right. Five nine maybe I'm not a pro quarterback. So let me go play baseball because I'm really good at that as well. But he is looked at as one of these elite athletes playing quarterback position not just an athletic quarterback. He's arm is a rifle. He's obviously got a great art play the outfield in baseball as well. So I just think when you look at the landscape of the NFL. Yeah. Absolutely. I can play here. Maybe he needed that Heisman Trophy season to sort of give himself that confidence. But now, it looks like he would have been all in if he'd known that he was capable of playing in the NFL the whole time it dinner you all in with him being the first quarterback taken. That's a tough question. I don't think that I am. But the thing is this you talk to scouts down and mobile senior bowl. They say that his potential in football. He's already closer to the limit of that now that he was for baseball. So for a competition standpoint, I think that's where it gets tough. You're like, yeah. He's. Good. But how much better is he actually going to get Branko Sola? I look at twain Haskins out of Ohio State. So he doesn't have baseball as an option. I would tend to take him. I when you look at that arm and look at the size, and is he mentioned Murray size. I think the NFL has changed a little bit. But there's still a lot of teams a lot of executives and coaches that don't want that quarterback that sixty and under. They think those guys are too small not saying it can't work. But I still think there are more teams that prefer the six to and taller. And what are you seem to think he was going to be the first quarterback taken by Miami or Denver or New York, but you can expound. Well, I think that he will go into top fifteen because that's where those teams are located. But I know I agree with Frank on that I think though, he'll be somebody that wants to reach up and grab him. Maybe somebody we're not talking about because the opportunity upside to be a great great quarterback in the league and the others. Don't. I would lean toward Haskins. They're basically just because of the size. He's a very smart quarterback doesn't really run that much. You can sort of trust him in the market. But in terms of Kyle he's got so many positive attributes you'd probably you can harp on the negative. If you want which is obviously his size. But he's got a lot of great things going for him. So if he's the second quarterback taken don't see a problem with that. We'll move on patriots. You'll take him Cleveland Browns making the other news day in the NFL sunning ream hunt. GM John Dorsey, quote, we did extensive due diligence with many individuals, including clinical professionals to have better understanding of person. He is today, and whether it was prudent asylum to important factors one is that Korean full responsibility. Who is a grievous actions, and showed remorse, and Secondly, just as Burnley he's undergoing and it's commitment necessary professional treatment and a plan has been clearly laid out three months. Also with a statement today. I mean working progresses sin, but I'm committed to taking advantage of the support systems that haven't placed and become the. And healthier version of myself. Israel. How do you consider the Browns signing hunt today? I don't want to sound like I'm against the second chance for Kareem hunt. I don't want to sound off skeptical about sort of the genuine nature of his growth as a person. But this is about the least surprising story that could have come out at any time of this year. You knew Kareem hunt was going to get another shot as long as he wanted one in the NFL, you knew some general manager or some owner was going to take a chance and say all the right things the way the Cleveland Browns and John Dorsey and Dorsey with his connection to him via the Kansas City Chiefs and drafting I think makes all the sense in the world, and he's going to an exciting team, which I think will get people talking about the idea of the Cleveland Browns quicker than they will the idea of Kareem hunt getting another shot so quickly. So hopefully, everything is on the up and up and hopefully Kareem hunt is a better person. And never does anything like he's done in the past. But it just kind of makes you wait and see because it's a little bit of rinse and repeat with all these types of guys getting their second chances in the NFL Clinton Yates. Yeah, I don't believe that the Browns are being very honest about this to say that he was. Penton. Somehow, let's not forget how he got into situation to begin with. He lied about what happened, and then they found out later when the video came out, and as a result, they ended up having to kick them off the team. So to say that he's getting a good second chance because he's been sorry about it. I don't know that I believe that in secondarily, it kind of feels like he's being rewarded by his hometown for something. That was not a good occurrence. I don't like the way the sits at all and going back to Cleveland where he's from. And where the incident happened feels very achey to me when every single lover, I guy. So that's a great point you bring up Clinton's remorseful after the video surfaced. I don't think there's any question about the talent that he hasn't big about the skill position players. They have on the Browns. And also the NFL we still have to hear from them in terms of what discipline they could hand out. I will say this though, you're talking about a guy. Hopefully, he gets his life together in a smart enough to realize he's going to run out of chances. Ray rice didn't get a second chance. Kareem hunt is getting a second chance make the most of it would he page. I it was a smart move by the Browns and. You say what signing him? But somebody was pointed out was going to sign him. Why not the Cleveland Browns who were on the way up in the National Football League? And you have done John Dorsey who spent time with him knows the character that he has or lack thereof and thought enough of him that they want to get him there to pair them with Baker Mayfield. I mean think about Ezekiel Elliott and the problems he had in his past. And when you consider the NFL investigation how long it took an alien situation with keep Toledo here. It might be two years before they get around to saying investigations over. So I think the Browns if you remove the past tense actually did something good for the franchise. I think people in Cleveland, we'll accept what they're doing. Even though we all four green. What he did was very grievous. And really, we know he's going to get another chance Israel something like that. Yet the Clintons point here while I do agree that there is some skepticism. There does seem seem a little a little greasy. If you will. But he had everything taken away from him right for the first time. His response is reactions are before we're not just slight discipline or he could lie and get away with it would have you. He had his career taken away from him for a second. So to say that he is not genuine in his remorse now, and can sort of grow as a person, I believe all that to be possible. I just don't wanna be fed lip service all the time. So you don't wanna be overly skeptical? But you don't also just wanna buy in and be like, oh, everything's okay. He's going to be a better person. But being in his hometown surrounded perhaps with more people who he can go to who can comfort him a little bit. Maybe that will help him avoid situations like this as well. But it could also be the opposite effect again. This incident happened in Cleveland in for me. It's not like the Browns of builds up enough capital with their fans to be making moves like this. They still aren't very good. They just happened to be on the way of after being garbage for a long time. This move to me may not make sense. If you think about what the phase really went out of a franchise, it's been more fun for decades. Kosovo? And Josh Gordon did not have anything domestic violence related. They kept giving him chances. And look what look how it worked out for them. Look it worked out for the patriots as well. There's one reason why they want him on this team is because he can help them. And if you look at most of these situations the team looks at a guy, they'll you know, the I o care what the press release says they're all looking at it from a football standpoint. And they believe that Kareem hunt could help young football. That's. Looking at the football standpoint. It's wonderful to hear that plans are in place. Let's go through the proper protocol support systems. I would like a little bit more transparency on what that is. Actually what what plan is in place. What is the support place? And further when you hear you took full responsibility is the team talking about food the actions that were on that video talking about the actions that happened after that where he was not fully truthful with the team that seems to be something that NFL teams care more about today. Lied to us after the fact did this video come out after the fact and not the actions that are actually on that video. He molds. Weekend sports in virus L next to the ground. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting dolls. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly, she has no brain, however, when in most nesting dole. Here's the guy code not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to Geico is a no brainer pity in a most nesting Dollond her lot in life. Coming to you from the seaport district here. Seventeen. Buyer fell. Tom we start with magic the gathering. Will make this about thinking. These guys are babies. They're professionals. All of. And this is how this league works. They know it I know it. That's how it goes. Magic one on one with every Laker player this weekend. How they responded they got rolled by Philadelphia. Here's rush on Ron everyone receives information different. It didn't translate to a win. I don't know. Here's travelgate. How am I supposed to answer that I feel inside? I don't know. And here's LeBron. I think he runs the team just having him around whenever that may be good for the ball club. Israel, you recovering this game yesterday. How do you hear all that magic here from the players? I'm just reading that LeBron quote for the first time, and I think he runs the team is absolutely classic. Around the team. I really it's LeBron. No, I think it was you know, this is what magic was supposed to do. Right. He's supposed to come in here and give a rallying cry. And really, you know, get the troops going, and it was a large disappointment. Like, he's talking about the media talk treating them like their babies, and then afterward, it wasn't really a whole lot of cohesion there. It just seemed like as you show. They're a bunch of question marks. I don't know what his goal was coming to Philadelphia. I don't think he accomplished it. Yes. When you it's. Yeah. I mean, it shows Magic Johnson doesn't exactly know what he's doing indisposition. Let's just be honest with ourselves. You got outfox by the New Orleans. Pelicans of all teams and embarrassing the situation regarding trade deadline, and now you're trying to convince me that this has something to do with your young players professionalism. No with the fact that you've got way too much out there. What you're giving away from link. Clinton gates, right guys. The man is on fire. He sees do playing person one time now listened to him. But he's absolutely right. I think the thing about Magic Johnson is this isn't just some regular trade. This is the players being upset because they feel like the superstar in the team is the one trying to get rid of. So for magic to sell. You know, you guys don't treat them like babies. It has nothing to do with that the players are upset because they feel like an short window from the time. David said trade me until the trade didn't go down. It was LeBron pushing the button had nothing to do with the way the media was treating. I'm also selling Clinton he wasn't trying to convince you, but we also know that he in convinced the players either faced on their reactions. They were like really well, though about like kingdom feeling coming. Really is that the way you want to describe Magic Johnson falcon to you. I think he made a terrible mistake to show up after the fact where was he went all the information with out there in the NBA while he was trying to get the pelicans to pick up the phone, which maybe they didn't even do it. Once they're even as Clinton magic saying the pelicans didn't act in good faith with the trade talks your response for that there, even is of course, they did it and it was the right move. That's the whole point come right? You want to address that? Well, that's his version of the story. Plus two pelicans, you're doing what's best believe it or not not for the Lakers for themselves. Wait until the summer. They'll be more offers out there. I don't know where he's getting good faith. That's that's how he views. It. How did the pelicans? Well, he was asked. That's the civically wasn't what negotiates in good faith. And he said, no he wasn't asked whether his version of it. You know, the Lakers version, which is basically Rich Paul and LeBron essentially working in the in the shadows to try to force Anthony Davis to requested Ray, the timing of all that was worked out to a T. I don't know if that's good faith negotiations. If you're the pet one and move off, but what is going to laugh himself into another double hernia? So go ahead. What he this is very very funny. If I'm the if I'm the pelicans management, I'm saying, oh, yeah. Yeah. You want a good faith from us. What were you doing? Of course, we're good acting badly. One last thing Israel from this game. And also from the Sixers side of it. Right. Ben Simmons said that he wanted to talk and work with Magic Johnson summer about becoming a better big point guard. And now, we're hearing Elton brand today say he's not going to allow that does that come up to you. Well, as the only panelist who spoke to Elton brand yesterday. All right there we go. I did I do think that this is sort of another position where Magic Johnson maybe doesn't recognize that he is the president of basketball operations all that other celebrity, and you know, his basketball career that goes out the window right now you have to abide by the rules of that. And having some other star who's represented by your stars agency. Which is very confusing. Yeah. You can't really just bring that guy and say, hey, I'm gonna work with him. That has you're shaking your head. No. So it's really, no. I'm just saying why don't you? Go talk to Reggie Miller or Rick berry or somebody who could actually shoot great percentages. I mean, you think about it. I don't care about three pointers to a guy from ten feet out issuing twenty percent this year or all his jumpers twenty nine cents work on your shooting. Not being the pointer yesterday the game. So let's break batch. Clippers one Twenty-three Celtics one well, Boston glowing a twenty eight point lead. Then losing eleven thirty nine point turnaround. We don't have where to toughness, we have fun. You know, it's a long season. Right. I go to you for my not fun. What is the major malfunction? That's plaguing. The Celtics right here. Well, remember the blue in eighteen point lead to the other Elliott on Thursday loss, the buzzer. When Rhonda made the shot, I think the souls go all goes back to last season. They had a lot of success in expected without Hayward interior urban clearly chemistry issues and some of this could factor into Anthony Davis as well where some of those younger players feeling like, you know, what my time here is going to be short this come summertime they're going to try to get rid of the malfunction his chemistry. Well, who's the chemistry team? Are you putting it on Brad Stevens? Hey, you know, what as much kill Magic Johnson. What's going on L A? Brad. Stevens has to take a hit here. It's his job to kind of run that locker room and right now, it's pretty dysfunctional page. Yeah. I'm putting it on Irving and Hayward. I don't think Hayward really has been a major contributor to teams come back and Irving's the one that is causing a lot of what I called last week to you Tony team disarray. I mean, this rarely gears didn't have this kind of a problem in terms of chemistry. Is there a good? Here's no one else. Got a lot of the personalities on this team aren't really this. You know, outwardly jovial people like you've got that. He's always happy Gordon Hayward. You've got Jaylen Brown. Who's like he's always angrily literally walks around with his hands and fist like very often. But really managing expectations this team early on in the season was supposed to be the team that ran through the and went to the final did start off that well, and Marcus Morris was never been on a team of this caliber saying there should be a lot more fun for me. Why? Yeah. And I'm actually kind of impressive mortgage sports. He's into contract you for him to say about the team and not about music, pretty smart thing. But there's just a squad that needs it all star break, and guess what? It's coming up. We'll be able to walk away from each other and what sounded team in the eastern comeback together. And they'll be Frank is still lower now sticking it should be a lot more fun than it is. And you know, what he pays you sunshine of my love. But now, I can say you feel free Gutierez Yates showdown next. No, one got the Korean reference for moody, please give it up. Happening when it happens. But at the same time, you can't not believe it's happening. Make the face. You may when you saw and what does this do to your view of Zion going forward Israel. Okay. Here's the face. That was because I was looking at it on my phone, and I probably did one of these because I needed to open it up a little bit to see make sure I saw what I was seeing. It was absolutely ridiculous. The timing of it athleticism. Just amazing as I was in the building. I can tell you what I did. I cursed at loud volume. Like everyone else. And then when I turned around and looked at all the scouts behind me. They all close their books and said we've yeah that was. To exist. After the this reminded me of David clowney versus Michigan about seven years ago. Like once you see that through pass, go do not collect two hundred dollars. Just go straight rank close to the the pros points. I like more than two hundred dollars Israel Gutierrez. Not we'll give the Clinton aides moving on showed that to football is back. The alliance. New rules all players all hits you guys. See the ratings for Saturday night, San Diego fleet San Antonio commanders Atlanta legend, Orlando Apollo's hide the NBA rockets thunder first impressions of the new league. It was excellent. It didn't feel Bush league. It didn't feel like they were unprepared. The football was fine. And those new rules are kind of fun. I'd like to see how this league fringe coaches back to the NFL. Also, my first impression is I don't want to be a quarterback in that league because they're getting wreck. But for those who chose to watch that and didn't Well, Paul George. I mean, come on you really need to make sure Kristen hackenberg isn't good. I mean, I'm going I'm going counter to you Clinton. I don't really care if the coaches get back to work I would like world where there are less commercial this one had that book. Gudiev? So recently, the New York knits put out a an ad for season ticket. Renewal ended had a picture of a New York knick, and of course, Kevin Durant, which you know, everybody's talking about him going from New York as a free agent. I remember back in two thousand nine two thousand ten the Miami Heat crowd had suddenly most amazingly well done signs recruiting that were funny. They were professional looking going. During a game. I'm wondering if maybe the Miami Heat might have been responsible for that. Message and data rates may apply to become okay for men to be Lazier softer fatter. 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"Slam jammed up maybe it did what do you do one warming up the game all the games i watch people when i can't get through this spring the stadium atmosphere where everyone watching parole for those who come on big savings worthy air we've got a game at checkout vivid seats it's the easiest way to get all the tickets to the game you want to go with a win oh yeah we got a new star here it's summer league welcome to the jump we're coming to you live from beautiful las vegas states three of summer league feels really like day a hundred because regency started it's just this is all we do is sit around and talk about dmv is year round and why are we showing zion coming the show because look who is alongside the future hall of famer vince carter the future hall of famer finals mvp paul pierce be general manager of the new orleans pelicans david griffin thank you so much for being back with us we appreciate it glad to be here all right so he was fantastic on friday especially once he thought he got comfortable right near the basket but he did have that need any contact so let me know how he has been feeling and what you're concerns were when you saw that 'cause they didn't play the second half yeah he's he's fine he came to us he wasn't in great condition and from a cardio perspective it wasn't a great situation to begin with so when he took that shot really it was just from my standpoint it was more cautious than anything else just shut him down at that point because there is no reason to push him when he was in the situation he was in you were watching that game when he said he says not great guardians addition i say you're not you're had yeah i mean that's that's what it is i mean i think coming out of college and you're enjoying life nominee nbs you tend to forget those guys out here who were training it have you as a target so i mean he's a gifted athlete he'll be fine but i think he knows now like i gotta be a finely tuned machine for the thing yes he hasn't played in a meaningful game it's been awhile element yet no you know it's hard to duplicate that you know especially coming this summer league guys will try to find job troublemaker team and they're playing hard and sense of you know the go from college back in april two male should work resigned going forward because he is such a unique athlete such i mean his frame is crazy end if he keep his weight in conditioning where i assume you guys want it to be i mean the sky's the limit for him but you don't want to reset it because of weight issues so start with a guy who's never been in my rental and to the point they made he did a lot of work in terms of working out one on none not getting shots up and doing those types of things but that's not the same thing is playing basketball an errand now sending his medical team with us it's one of the big reasons that we want it now soon to be are vp of performance and player care late night words big words but he was somebody that was really important to us for this very reason because anything that they put him through is going to put him in position to be better every day he's gonna work with a nutritionist with us he's fully committed the all of its ryan wants to be great camp so once he gets into a situation where he's around that infrastructure he's gonna take to it very well now i have to say these guys were impressed as the rest of us but the moves that you have made since taking this job eighty trade it's just the beginning of it that download into that domino tons of that dominant they do and the free agent signings as well paul we haven't gotten to see you should hold off all of the magic what did you think listen republicans are gonna be one of those teams in the league watch they're gonna be must see tv i mean you got ball's coming off the injury people wanna see what he could develop into now that the ball is gonna be in his hands and not run the show you know you got tangled started coming through rental since oh i can't wait to watch the ball they have a bright future answer ads that i think jj redick is a huge piece because i've said i've been saying it for the last couple of days i said phillies if they're gonna hurt a little bit not having for because they're gonna lower yeah i agree do you expect this rack you're gonna be a playoff team you know we certainly wanna compete for it was really important to us first of all drew holiday is the face of the franchise and then through has outside left in his game as well i think he really wanted an opportunity to show what he's capable of if he's running the show and we wanna build a team around his skill set much the same way we did in phoenix around steve nash if we could put the right fit around drew we feel like he's got it altogether different level nobody expected seed national be two time mvp when simon phoenix either drew takes that challenge very seriously so what we wanna be doing is playing meaningful games in april and may and we wanna grow the young kids in an environment where winning matters but i'm looking at this and i've been studying going on with all these trades in raw from a roster movements new orders has a great shot to make the playoffs i mean there's a bunch of teams that are in the same boat sacramento in their new orleans come out of nowhere else but those two teams right there are gonna be in a race will get any we've been talking about derrick favors i mean that's just gives you another big man who who's been in meaningful games you have they have a lot of experience in that locker room to bring bring the younger guys along and we're we're excited about derek for the same reasons in terms of fit culturally with us but he's another kid who has a lot of upside offensively he's an elite rim protector who is playing with another top five center and then be great he couldn't really show what he's capable of they straight five and what the fit with alvin gentry in are system in the pieces that we added in the in the eighty trade we feel like the fit is really good in should bring out the best in everyone but you mentioned jj redick that's the piece for us it was absolutely paramount and all of this that floor spacing is is one thing but vince you know this is well is anybody veteran leadership in the locker room when that veteran still has sweat equity is invaluable to young it's funny you should mention that because this carter is a free agent i've heard that i've heard what you think vince bring anything then he play for like and tell you what he would bring a legal tampering go ahead are saying are big thing with vents and i think this is true of all veterans and you've experienced this now for several years in a row when you go into a situation with other young players the most important thing for you is the leaders that you're playing significant minutes and because you're capable of doing that the fit for him is find the scene where he can do that i hope we're that team in terms of one you're drawn to but in terms of knowing we have the minutes in fairness i don't know that i could say so it's it's a really interesting situation for us because everything that you represent is what we're trying to build a team around but we've talked about it for the last couple of days on this show he plays at such a high level someone ten years fifteen years younger than him we slash either you're getting you've got and eighteen or nineteen year old kid in the locker room they grew up idolizing him so it's something where the facts and he's still playing at a high level and takes care of his body at the way he does get it speaks to kids in a way that a lot of guys don't absolutely all right so when david sat down he asked me he said you guys have they what were you thinking for me do i need to be ready for every vote and i said we don't have formal one but we kind of have an informal one of course of action shing grass during friday's earthquake was caught live on camera i think you handled it very well but please tell us what you thought literally this guy wasn't only frankly what had happened the day before literally the previous morning we sell the wages well right and we were in or film session at a conference room and i was leaning against the room divider and i look back and it looked like a wave sprayed the chandelier started swinging light bulbs started falling out so we literally had to get up and run out of the conference so i was looking up to see which part of me sixers here we're going to stay up and it was you know the scoreboard was laying speakers around saint paul isn't eleni that's i'm no strangers but it's been ten years since i've been a significant earthquake whatever's going on i would like that is a little little toiler alert here you're also a hell of a lot tougher than i am well there you go david thank you so much for joining us we now know you're a savvy gm band aid veteran of any gio plug anything that happens geologically you can handle it i could handle it you know trajan lending were sitting next to me and he didn't flinch swing pass was on the other side she didn't want to hire the right people brought me up i know that could have been said even before the editor david thank you so much for being here he's gonna leave vince who's been doing double duty for us like seven or eight show zero silverlake calling games were gonna finally let him off the hook thank you so much for being with us in chauncey billups zach lower coming in in the break so please stay with us because we're gonna discuss russell westbrook where is the ben laden for him to go first time very distant replay from this date scrappy were do it for us this date in two thousand seven featuring shannon brown loom see pro at that too although i i went back to saudi there's gonna be a combo guard point guard with that kind of great nfl i feel like he got your high as his a real with oklahoma where he's been very nearly everything that's jammed 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number eight pundits celtics which came about because paul run right anton longer longer the breakout year round walker you are ready to go i would argue that per day is i've been asking if he's gonna do that a lot longer may or may he's gotta you know he could resolve last year right make tributes you're evil now got a tattoo of his dad iconic alley and the two thousand western conference what do you think you're gonna get a tribute to with you know when you like she like no bron james harden but not make this point madam when he was a kid when he struck that's not okay that they go off the reason we appreciate all fears has you'll it'll them bringing me died or knowledge there we go valerie cool that missouri asa ms summer biden john moran chickens and suddenly action last night and he jokingly called out by calling this damn why keeper eating chili cheese fries where he asked degree even have a nutritionist on job responded sarcastically pretty great impacted day josh list that could could you come to the cheese fries and hotdogs in a little bit of weight on okay it'll be just fine what about like him of course i wish i had one hundred i could afford when you guys run early went oh adam iran right make recognition joe lake up says the warriors are in fact going to retire i drink with all the jersey absolutely of course explain why they couldn't make this announcement when they start talking about katie well because the the the trade wasn't officially they needed a moratorium you demonstrate needs to go through and it's actually not be on the warriors right there you go i can't even the free agent that's why they could say about katie and they couldn't that until now that he but he's number indeed will be going well there's absolutely all right here in the voices but i want to officially welcome in two thousand four finals mvp chauncey billups stanford users the finals mvp hanging out at the end to sack so there not a final vaccinated because cyber league is the time to where basketball t shirts and you're you're you're telling the lottery our not very good in that where's my first of all hams oregon mono zero nada under the ball his mouth second runner up paul george to dart math no they covered according to arkan mc manner the rockets were interested in west islip consider a trading quote long shot because it would take complex multi team deal zach this is what you do professionally tell us where you think the best it would be and then also where you thinking that accident that i did the best fit is with the team that does not have another guy who handles the ball all the time so i don't know how that would work and use i mean there is something to just put a lot of talent that's what daryl does i don't love it i if i predict eighteen where he ends up i would say miami miami seems to be just hungry for some shake up the problem is oklahoma city now owns a couple of their picks they wanna give miami a really good player i dunno may i mean they literally literally the better the miami does the worse it is for okay seen that before any trade no no no team that's had the worst luck this year you get zion didn't you can't be beat oh oh york knicks why and what am i gonna do why come on what is it gonna have some star power new york is all you need another star that's why jimmy butler a lot of sense for him to go to miami to otherwise stay put laid out a year but i don't wanna see russel don't casey no more wow that's it no they they average triple double off by okay done all these camper that franchise move to the knicks the knicks no way they need more anybody come on admit they made it they definitely not build off of them they got too much asom minner robbery with the knicks and boston i truly feel bad i feel bad for him to the love the love scott perry thing where they it's been a rough summer it's been a rough gonna love it's been around too many weeks talking you wanna talk about were really looking forward to the summer yet it's been it's been a rough summer absolutely will see what happens with ross i wanna get you the raptors head coach nick nurse because here's what he had to say about quiet leonard leaving the clippers take listen you can't blame a guy who won the goal line that's what he text me today i'm going oh you know what i just said you've changed a lot of live my buddy my what you ccomplish tim's ronald my watch social even though my daughter judgy first of all very classy writer director say that what do you think of the raptors future are they in rebuilding because they have a team they just can't be can't i don't wanna see i commend kyle lowry i don't think they need to rebuild i just spent retool a little bit they still have some good pieces there you know talk about i gotta say be on the move you know you look at maybe call our situation no maybe he wants to go to a team of more veteran team more team that could win but who knows but not a rebuild they don't need to rebuild they got good pieces there they got a good coach dies terrific they'll they'll be fine there'll be a couple of years from a rebuild because you gotta just saw aging lowry he got young seok on you still got nobody who's there who i who has potential and so you know i don't know if you saw you gotta see what you could do in the next year or so but if nothing else this year i look move often those older players and build around first of all how is nick nurse horse abc's matt hardy serious a second about they're going after rebuild at some point you have to do do due diligence of what is lowery worse on the trade market what mark worth what a surge what they're all in expiring contracts so one way or another you're gonna have to move on with cap space or assets or whatever but i kinda think it would be fun what was their recor with alkali last year it was really good but they're still a good team take a victory lap what call lowry took a victory lap let's just have a nice you're in toronto you think i mean you're mentor to kyle lowry i know you factor him do you think that he would like to be on that team and had a victory lap or do you think he well i think so i think they're gonna position right now obviously hate to lose co why saint no the guy on the team but i think he's in a position where listen you got one more year on his deal is nobody looking for an extension at some point but he's gonna play well you know what he's gonna have to play will like the job is not done yet so there's some pressure on him to to keep it going all right we'll watch what the raptors do we're also watching what the teams in l a's do coming up we're gonna be discussing named better do well which is the better do out lebron eighty or co why pg thirteen jake was that was a lot of george noory sportscenter tonight after nixon michael eaves and kevin connors on e a c n n they'll have reactions in analysis of the women's world cup final in france boiler alert it went well on e s b nearly mbh summer league rolls on the five more games all namedrop streaming live on me i just take your phone out of your pocket lots of it where it is time here on the show glow of family reunion going on yeah combos those older brother finance somebody doing that right okay junior contract with the bucks according to the athletic the brothers last play together in the twenty sixteen people qualifying tournament we saw the working out with that beautiful backdrop behind him greasy other day jhansi is this the bucks doing everything they can to keep you honest found absolutely should a four year deal mayor right absolutely their daughter roxbury good jobs on hor we gotta go see how much they are in paul i mean they they did get go everywhere together and listen you gotta do a superstar mvp has new son and his brothers mother whoever if that goes another do do it maybe maybe it makes up for not paying the luxury tax skied malcolm brogdon ooh there you go i don't know if it's and even trade but sure on the marcus morris heading to the birds according to be athletic more signed a two year twenty million dollar contract second being a player option paul a lot of people wanna marcus morris what do you think of the same way that i mean i i choose that goes along the lines of you know pop players a guy versus south into it inside and out topic this is a great he could help any teams right now agree far i mean i think there's a really good pick up and talk about so pretty plays both fans he was probably the second most consistent player for the for the celtics especially the white people money in the market weirdly dried up on him into michael green has signed it i thought some of these kind of cleaner forward to get more but i like demari carol marcus morris rudy gay you got a lot of versatility with those chad like what the spurs at the summer very quiet i mean let's let's let their health right they're gonna get back players that were hurt last year the team is definitely gonna be good people sleeping on this verse absolutely we just finished one of the craziest reeks of free agency i think any of us have ever seen being around this game's first couple of decades here loss angeles has changed significantly lebron has another superstar companion anthony davis and the clippers became may title contender literally overnight adding why into a tree falling all right so gentleman name your better duo for the next two years lebron in eighty four come by and paul george you got a question why and paul george paul georgia's coming off of an mvp caliber season and we all know what collide leonard did in the playoffs and then the final 'em don't don't take anything away from the bronx the bronx still great eighty is still great but these guys are trending up i just i mean you got to the to the perimeter players in the game right now one into you know what i mean i don't know i remember one i agree with paul pierce 'em i would go why and paul george only because they got two guys in the middle of their primes at the same time the best two to two way players in the game big boat and closed the game and i don't see any ego or any issue going stand in the way and who's who's rolling that night so i i would say those two first of all even if they're on different teams the answer is bobi and toby second of all i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm actually making unanimous i'm gonna go quyen pg i mean i i i'm a huge fan i thought it was mvp two years ago and i guess the deal the tie breaker for me is lebron's age my a little bit of uncertainty of how much can you bring on defense every night entity now it'd be prone to another injury i know so i'll go buy a little teensy bitcoin bitchy i am curious on both sides where they injury in health issues you're gonna read or write a quiet leonard low managed through this next season again on the one hand he's not coming off the same season he was coming off two seasons ago but he said the reason why i'm in these mb finals enable the play is because we did that load management he was hurt even then right guys on also he still managing and we heard him at the beginning of the playoffs say hey regular season games bowser just like practices this is the real part of the year i don't know how much have you back white orcas swapping he is gonna be easy because you have doc rivers they're no they're not gonna take a chance they they took a big gamble this you're getting both of those guys they wanna be healthy down the stretch but that's the benefit of having good depth when you're seeing them and they're gonna they have a good bench there'll be fine i mean he knows he could tell you anything plant with doc i mean i'm sure they'll keep it fresh that is gonna watch this closely he knows what he has over their doc hosting his whole thing is let's be ready for the playoffs were gonna use the regular season the tune up in once playoff go i want everybody fresh rush on android and that's when we make are real because we all know the team that is not injured you don't think that's gonna be the favorite i mean we see it every every year injury or a major factor in the playoffs in the finals every year i remember what year two thousand eighteen paul didn't win because you guys were older group that was the year the dock starting in investigating hey maybe we won't have morning shootaround maybe will do five o'clock shootarounds instead that sort of thing and try to another the lessons are practices wasn't out there as long as they may have been sort of load management we probably they're doing as much in the game but we definitely they're doing dancers gonna be in los angeles whatever cohen wants to do whatever he feels comfortable with that's what they're going to do and see if they hire more people on their sports science that if they hire particular people further sports science saying that alex okay i don't know i don't know i don't know what his contracts that is but i know that if cohen says i want that guy that guy and that guy those guys are probably going to be there absolutely amazing era by the way in our first segment david griffin namedrop aaron who he brought from the sons of alex the cat these getting airtime the training staff at these teams athletic trainers you're big part of what players feel comfortable become it's become a huge deal i mean talk about lo's man load management and you know paying attention to how many practices the guy practice is minutes he plays in the game i mean that trainers they they almost make the active roster you know there's a lot of coaches that come in and say i dunno plan tonight here's all ends on what the trainers older players that go to certain franchise just because of the training staff install shaquille o'neal do that in phoenix when they had one of the top of the he'll dribble by the way that that training that that that is who griff we're talking about who he brought to the vatican for that reason i wanna jump to the east you guys because you were talking in the break about philadelphia anytime these guys get into a good conversation the break you know we wanna bring it on tv what do you guys think of what the sixers did decide to do you think they got better or worse i'm going lateral i'm a little more optimistic than these guys are but i i am worried about initially they're gonna bring up which is it's crunch time thanks was jimmy butler do stuff man they don't have jimmy butler anymore and i'm curious like horford is really fascinating play for them they went all in on size josh richardson i think will fit them well but they're all fence when it mattered was jimmy butler and the jj redick joel embiid two man game and those are gone now well i think it's pretty simple i mean i'm not crazy about what they did even though i'm a big fan of al horford the rich the kid is gonna be really good but jimmy butler is the heart and soul offensively defense if we've seen anything and we know what i'm saying it's a bad games closer's have the ball in their hands there and pick and roll their eyes so they don't have that guy anymore why does he keep changing teams like if he's this good and i think he's just got i mean like i think we know the answer but this is not for teams in like no time at all you know i think jimmy butler wants to be back i don't know what happened there but you know i'm i'm not i'm not convinced that i'm very concerned about this too because the thing i look at it spent now for but the way they behave stress for shoot the three ball you got our fruit obviously could knock down stock but i like tobias harris for next envy myself i like a line of what our offered them being especially down the stretch i mean they outside but the shootings not there and i'm not sure about the fair since so 'em plucky by on this year and at the start of the season just see you know the chemistry between the theme in outer space fingers and jj redick and having a cold out there jimmy butler when when you look at it on the moves that were made in these favorite into it in a i you you have to go in thinking milwaukee but to me it's milwaukee i still think philadelphia's in that top tier or a lot of question marks we were talking before i think we all think boston's it's gonna be a little better than the consensus but jimmy i guess milwaukee what they might my ball i grew up in milwaukee is the is the best team right now losing brock gonna be a big deal and actually who he went to if it comes back healthy indiana will be troublesome team over there but boston i think boston got better i really do they're gonna miss our horford but i just think kemba walker is gonna bring a different energy a different spirits that team that will allow those young guys flourish in my opinion bolton who hinges on the development of brown one of these guys to become a all star they're not gonna put boston into that contending package where you have milwaukee right now in milwaukee has continually that's it that's it that's the only thing maybe fairly but i'm a little higher and i i dunno i dunno but right now milwaukee is the only thing that the wait and see what boston does and the development of these two guys emerged into in all star players and i'll put the right level throw one more thing into the mix you guys though we're talking last segment about about russell westbrook possibly going the miami redhawks says i want something that's gonna try to make something happen how do you think those two together and would they be a contender there will be a contender m i don't know when i see you know they obviously goes there some other players gotta leave but but the tenacity those two guys the heart we'll have those two guys jimmy v number play i just feel like they're gonna have a chance every single night but you gotta have them you really do i mean he's not a guy that needs the ball every single play four point four seconds so i pay him russell could possibly coexist but when you have another goal massage you could going in there at night i mean yes in the eastern conference there'll be a contender right but think about this rasa kaye being hard play well paul george i'm not taking anything father said he's not telling those guys but you are in the east end because of copper what would have happened turney changing for a while they're hard cap now after match the money almost exactly i think russia's around thirty nine this year so you gotta find thirty nine they have the salaries for they got a lot of big not great contracts contracts it's not that hard i do not think there would be a contender in these threats to jimmy i think there are clear tier below i don't like how they how they madison beer point like katie in paul george vs jimmy there's just sit downgrading shooting like there's not enough shooting threats the jimmy's i think they'd be a tough out there from copper whitney east but like after injury here there the milwaukee i think the doors wide open that's certainly what we saw in the west this year and injury here there everything changes you mentioned the salaries of westbrook that's obviously a big part of wherever he might end up is supposed to make when his ear he turns thirty four i want you guys to brace yourself on this side of the table sorry i have to say this never former players who don't draw the seller anymore forty seven point one million dollars for the one year that he is thirty four years old what is the complication for oklahoma city is they try to find somebody who's gonna wanna take that contract finding someone who's gonna wanna take tech i mean seriously they're just art that's a huge amount of money for a guy who's already trending the wrong way an astronaut develop a jump shot you know you guys both know if you when you start to his athleticism the jumpstart is what saved you i'm not sure he has it in a lot of the teams that need point guards or that have a whole deposition are so young that it doesn't make sense for them to get a thirty thirty one would every israel clearly it's gonna be hard for them to find a match i think you know i still think that russell has a has a good future in the league i mean averaging a triple double i think the only issue that i have a russell is he he's just has one gear you know and there's sometimes during the game tickly the end he needs to take it down a notch let the game slow down and make the proper place but his greatest threats is also is greatest weakness you know so you have to deal with that when you have great players but we'll see if he ends and moving already so far left in for just just under just a little bit under four billion dollars in new contract given out this week we've also had a third of the top players in the league so if you take everyone who is on all mbh a third of those players have changed steam mind of the ten all star starters from february have switch teams go why paul george durant's kyri cannabis and that doesn't even count eighty those reserves the what do you guys think of all the slayer movement we had vince on earlier and he was like this is a lot different from what i came into the league sure you've seen things trend the good bad finian be i think it's great because the one thing it'd be the only sport that one player can change the face of a franchise snow and other sports you see multiple players but more baseball we saw why the one player the whole thing up a franchise and that's the beauty about basketball because you've got a team that goes from nothing to something overnight in one year i think it's great to rachel you know the big thing for me this season i am so excited is we don't know who's gonna win yet but this is the first time in a long time where it's not like a man just get a word in ship just just let them push out of town we don't we're in the final minute we don't know so i'm just really excited about the parody yeah that that that is becoming a league just this summer just from a pure business standpoint it's clearly good everybody loves the player but but it's people obsess over it and i and i do think teams don't lock themselves in prison for too long anymore and i think it's good first star players because they're the most important people in the league period and if they're stuck on a dysfunctional team they've learned hey our contracts only got two years left like i'm gonna flex my power and get out of here get somewhere else it makes more sense to me now i do think keeping teams together that work is one of the unique things about basketball when you play with someone foreign fighters closure eyes and see how they move like i i do worry that maybe people were losing a little bit on that that special right and that's a good that's a feeling you one while it is and that's the reason why think denver is gonna be a really good team this year and you know you you you have those good young pieces you start lock them up and you keep the ancillary pieces around him to just so you can grow other end you you go to a game seven lost like they did in portland you learn something about yourself and you're team there and you don't just start saying okay i like that got better and just start picking people apart keep those guys together a little bit to happen damian lillard is on this day yesterday today and he said yeah i'm hearing about the clippers i'm hearing about the lakers and utah number what about us we made the western conference finals and even though we added some pieces were largely the same core he was talking about the value of staying together like that offered newswatch continues its it's back at some point next year even in the year of all was well thirty five ventures it's now seven kevin durant's changing his name number thirty five to seven we haven't gotten an explanation why that is calling capper extended our service i could see that one hundred percent katie paying tribute to call and capper nick and now we don't know if that's true or not but that makes sense the who katie is absolutely what do you think about new place new new look number two we saw the braun do that when he left cleveland to miami anyone is first championship changes good changes good i just can't wait to see him play in it i like fast for five looks good games coming up they're all night for you the job will be back on tuesdays cnn an interesting creature in the flat iron planes many an automobile dashboard double sided

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Sep 18, 2020 - HOUR 1 - Voters Got The NBA MVP Award Right

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Sep 18, 2020 - HOUR 1 - Voters Got The NBA MVP Award Right

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One I had the music ready and everything what music. It's a little national. What that line necessarily Victoria's secret. What we were ready was iron. Man and you know you just you just bailed. saw a bit salty. Excuse me today if you know if you since that are all say is. Happy Anniversary yesterday more two years of us. Doing this show full-time and today is distort our third year together. The odd couple on Fox sports radio. Trust me I didn't want to go to the dentist, but I had to get there and all good man. There's so much to talk about. Let's say it is rob as a guide. It's done this show sitting next to you for. The bulk of this two years I'm glad you went to the dentist. Hoping fixed, look. At and you hope they gave me mouthwash to. Exact. So what we got Gary Washburn National NBA writer for the Boston. Globe coming up at the bottom of the hour, and actually he does a job covering the whole league but great time to have you moron because of course, you had that shouting match in the Boston Celtics Locker Room after they went down Oh to yesterday the Miami Heat. Reportedly. Jaylen, Brown and Marcus smart had to be separated. Before they got into some fisticuffs or something. So great time to have Gary Washburn on and clear everything whitmore MVP voting right who would it was Lebron to be unanimous didn't he vote? We voted for Mellow Yup Yup Lebron still upset about that. So that would have been another notch on Lebron's belt so that it didn't happen right? That's right. Let's introduce. The crew we got DJ Alex Tyson Aka Alex Vegan I'm always excited when he's on the ones and twos on a funky flashback Friday let's see how deep he goes into the crates. We got Vince cates in for Super Producer Rob Wow. Yes. It's great job I know it's ridiculous I don't get it I the to rob's on his show y'all love a vacation. and. Then Hale second is Brian Finley on the updates the loquacious Brian Finley Mr of herbs. So listen for verbs in the updates. All right. Let's get right to the news of the day. Or certainly one of the big stories of the day. jaanus onto. Dick. Cuneo. Wins his second straight MVP award. And became. The third player along with Michael Jordan and Akeem Olajuwon to win MVP defensive player two year in the same season. Very impressive. Very. He's twenty five years old absolutely absolutely now the big deal. Is that a lot of people. Think that. Because they went out Yonder is bucks went out four one to the Miami. Heat in the second round of the playoffs and the one game that day one Janas has got hurt in the first quarter and only played eleven minutes. A lot of people are saying he didn't deserve it. They're saying Lebron should've Lebron James should have won this MVP award. Now I am an official voter I take my vote seriously and I voted for Jaanus and I have absolutely positively no regrets about voting for Yang onto the Kubo. Rag It folks listen to me. It is a regular season award. The ballots are Duda, the ballots Traxi do before they even started playing games in the bubble. So I don't care what happens in the play offs. Has No bearing on the award. Now, we'll say. Going forward right when you see a guy struggle. In the playoffs after winning MVP. Yeah. That could affect your vote for the next season. But for this season, it was about the I sixty five games or whatever it was that that each team played before the pandemic struck. And jaanus identical impo had better individuals statistics than Lebron better traditional stats, points, rebounds. Field goal percentage things like that better. He was a better defensive player as evidence buys defensive player of the year ward. He had better analytical stats. He had one of the greatest. Of all time. And his team without all the second star without an F. Davis, he led the Milwaukee Bucks to the best record in the league. Rob? What more can you ask? From a guy. When you're looking for the MVP case closed case closed I wrote a column for Deadspin. Chris Today. In stop it with the with the false narrative about that. He doesn't deserve it and compare them the Steve Nash and all this other stuff. It is ridiculous his you just said it his numbers whereas impressive. And Chris. He also won right. Brandon had the best record. They have an Anthony Davis and here's the other case against Laurent. Anthony Davis had better numbers than Lebron Chris other than the assist. He did last year without Anthony Davis the Lakers didn't even make the playoffs regardless of what the circumstances were and then with. Anthony. Davis got their Naveh chance to go to the finals. So you can make the case that Anthony Davis. was was an MVP or help Lebron and the Lakers get to where they are not stop with the false narrative. No, and it's not a lifetime achievement award. We don't care that this is year seventeen and that Lebron James doesn't get any extra credit for for this being being long in the tooth. He doesn't get the extra credit because it can get down at Denny's on breakfast. Older none of that stuff matters you know curve I we're not grading on a curve. The fact that Lebron is thirty five in his seventeen years nothing. Right means absolutely nothing. That's what a lot of people start their argument with right he's thirty five. Hey. I'll give you this best seventeenth season by a player in NBA his when they make up the award for that, we'll give it to. Right, and I'm not taking a an older away from Lebron Luke, Bryan had a tremendous year. He had a great year. Is had a better one. That's all there is to it and rob there. That's why it vote was eighty eighty five out of our believe one, hundred and one. Yes. First Place Votes Lebron Yanni's got eighty five out of one. Oh, one that'll route route could. Look. There are some very few outlook Lebron James is the best player in the world and he's the best player on the Lakers but there are some native argued Anthony. Davis is their MVP you just said it rob statistically he led the Lakers and everything but assists somebody texted me. A little while ago. that. They think is the best player on the Lakers. And they said look at the numbers, the stats and they said John, Stockton his rolling over in his grave. We know he's not there. But just facetiously. Saying, where's My MVP award? I love. This. RIGHT HE MVP exactly so WAYPOINT I'll give you the only time rob that let like they bring up to thirty five years old seventeen season that Lebron? That's in the argument the only time that could potentially enter the argument rob is if Lebron had say, say never won an MVP. Right, and a bunch of writers happened before where they give island which. Shouldn't be, but you know how it is that would enter into an argument and I wouldn't be that mad at it. If that's the case of guy clearly was the best all time great just had never for whatever reason won the MVP deserved it. Maybe a few years then you throw at in because he should have won at what else out of that? No I'll give you one other thing and I love to hear what people are thinking maybe maybe. If, they just announced the award Chris Right after the season I agree I'll start, and then this way you could get over it. You don't have to remember what alright what happened and just announce it, and then you go forward and then you. been with that, just just announce it they. Show, today should have they should have to get to the polio awards show right you got about four five days before the play. I and just have a nice awards show. Yeah and then. We can move forward. You're not gonNA, get the players there because obviously they're getting ready for the playoffs, but you can get to them in their home. Have them have an interview with them in their home? into. With the All Star Team Yeah make it nice because you're right. Here's the thing. Let's let's clear up this narrative. I WANNA list several MVP's rob who won the MVP award and then got ousted in either the first or second round of the playoffs because people act like John this is the only one. All right in twenty. Eighteen I'm sorry twenty seventeen. Russell Westbrook wins the MVP award. and gets beaten four one in the first round of the playoffs. Okay. In twenty. Oh, seven dark, Novitsky wins the MVP award gets upset by Golden State in the first round of the playoffs I believe goes day was the eighth seed that year was one. Two Thousand Two Tim Duncan wins the MVP award and gets ousted in the second round of the playoffs. Guess what? Four one just like honest four one we're talking about one of the greatest players ever live. Nineteen ninety nine. Call Molo wiz MVP award booted in the second round of the playoffs, and here's the kicker rob. Nineteen eighty-eight Michael Jordan was his first MVP award. Wiped out of the playoffs in the second round four one. Then you go. So stop with this like this is a jaanus thing. Yeah and one other thing Chris Eight, seven, seven, ninety, nine on. Fox told the number out the other thing is stop with this whole idea about. The media likes you or whatever they they. They vote for you and some secretive narrative the biggest. Exhibit Is Barry Bonds who wants seven VP's Chris seven demeanor did did he like the media, the media like Barry? Bonds Not at all not at all star starter great point. was undeniable. That's why he won the absolutely the media media are far less biased than players coaches. Is and it'd be honest Janas actually won the fan vote to so that that should settle it case closed now. I will say this last thing before we throw out the number for the callers rob a Lotta people say well, they should just wait till the playoffs and the play offs and the finals and give one MVP award don't even do regular season one what that would be the finals MVP right? That's why they. Hard. You're not going to give the playoff MVP award like let's say you did do that. You wait till after the finals get award. You're not giving it to a guy that went out in the second round. Even. If he was the best player, so let's say Denver Loses to the Lakers this round. And Yokich is great but they lose you could argue yoga should be the MVP YEP would he get it? No because they got beat. Jimmy. Butler IF THEY LOSE TO BOSTON, if they get to the finals and lose would anybody feel good if they gave Jimmy Butler Mvp Award No because the regular season, he didn't deserve it, and then if he was great in the playoffs, lead Miami to the finals. When nobody thought, they could get there but still lost it wouldn't feel right. So, it would always just beat the finals MVP would. That's why we have the regular season MVP, which we should keep. It totally made those two separate seasons yeah yeah, I seventy, seven, ninety, nine on Fox eight, seven, seven, nine, nine, six, sixty, three, sixty, nine, your turn to weigh in did Yaounde's deserve. The MVP award did Lebron get snubbed? 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We're brought to you by GEICO now did you know there right now guy goes offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car motorcycle RV policies that's. Fifty percent on what guy don't get already save his crazy folks. What are you waiting for saving extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh visit GEICO DOT COM to learn more as seven seventy, nine, nine on Fox simple question. The Yon- is I did it Kubo deserve the MVP award and Lebron James Get snubbed your turn away in Chris Real quick somebody called on the hotline. It's the Lebron Fam- boy he's he represents basically all the Lebron fans. Okay. What do you got? A couple of Fox? Sports? Radio. Sorry piped out. Where's your Babol? Thought so all could rob played seventy, seven ninety off Fox. Let's start with Luca in Baltimore. You're on the odd couple of Fox sports radio. WHAT'S UP LUCA What's up guys. Well first first congratulations two years. Great. Thank you. Thank you, brother. I can't wait for two and four and you know not to not to you know whoever mass right? No Okay I. WanNa Cram as we're about to say about that I am the biggest Lebron Fan. But I think it's time for the NBA to as rob said, and I think Chris agreed to this just. Move Up Jesse present this award and nothing more than this pandemic. made it clear. that. He needs to be done. I'm not saying they. You gotTA institute a different because that's that's got a mess some sort of. Go. Off The aim we knew regularly. and. Start everything MVP, it'd be great. It'd be great. One, hundred percent NBA yeah. Absolutely I don't know why they haven't done it to be honest. Not Get it. You can't do a grammy type show right? Because players are going to be practicing in narrow cities. Fine. Just have a show on TNT or whatever. Yeah you can make it a nice thing that everybody will want to watch ham in new? Jersey. On the couple of Fox sports radio. What's up him? WHAT'S UP FELLAS? CONGRATS on the two years Fast. Wasn't a ham that was foul man. But you know pretty soon, you guys going to be on. TV. And I'M GONNA be enjoying watching it. It's the best show. I think by far. Has Out listen on this subject Well, what I like to say is Lebron. He wasn't even the best player on his team all year regular season. This is a regular season award like the last caller said, and you guys said before, let's push it up and it saves the embarrassment for the NBA because like you honest should have won it already right and he gets eliminated and now. You have all these the cloud of smoke. Everybody coming to the. Yes. Yes. Time as I said I mean remember when Novitsky wanted and they won't buy gold stay up. It really puts a dare just look for the winter right? Right and even if you want like even the optics as you were GonNa say rob are bad but just for the player himself, it sort of he can employ. By Crowning achievement you should be able to enjoy it. Let the lake foreign over you people talk about this dude duty was defensive player of the year and MVP only three players have ever done it in league history. Yeah. Come on man and now all everybody's talking about all he got he got be Negra got job. More, concerned comment Oh, you're in the couple of Fox sports radio what's up mark. Yup Virginia. I'm sorry mark in Virginia going to say sitting here, going down the line the West. Coast now. There's another more I just missed. I grew up in the sixties but I didn't do that much anyway. Happy Anniversary guys. Thank you I also just a sidebar make a really quick. This is also my aunt fifty fifth anniversary my very first NFL game. My Dad took me to the game I carried the beer in a huge bag. I was nine years old under size but. We went to the game is they were playing the Dallas cowboys in nineteen sixty five. Let's see. Zip. Washington this the browns versus the cowboys in nineteen sixty, five Jimmy Brown had retired early and we were Kelly is in the backfield anyway the reason I went to. The whole thing was I heard of a guy named Bob Hayes who fast human earth you just won the Olympics. You know what to kit is nine years old. That's what I was looking for, and of course, when we got into the police had to ask what was in the bag, my dad's launch Nathan go ahead. So that was my passage and it was a beautiful experience and it's Real. Day with the same thing, my anniversary browns play. So getting back to your sidebar question I. I, don't you know it's all I think the MVP's all about expectations and Lebron just can't top themselves. So I don't think he's going to get that many MVP's in his short career. That's You know. I think we're GONNA miss him a lot when he's gone a heck of a lot but Don I'll I'll give it to the young man in Milwaukee he leaves. Walkie played really well, she it he did and he deserved a squeeze in mark. Real quick. Can we do that? Ramento mark what's going on Jim? Market. Sacramento. Brother Real quick. I wanted again I want to say happy anniversary to you guys from the Call. From the second day you guys. WanNa to start in two years ago you guys allowed me to call and listen to me and allowed me to get on your damn nerve. To. To to. Keep any real some yes. But we appreciate. y'All get on my damn nerves to listen. Real quick. For the last two years, Janas has been. To this point, he's been the MVP not he just continued. He just kept going and keep getting better. So just on the deck trajectory. So and on the Laker Fan Lebron's Fan. But this is not an argument that young man is just getting better and better and better, and it's just it hasn't stopped two years, right? So. Easily continues. He's been on believable any and you're right. Appreciate the call he has gotten better. You know. All RAVIOLI. Everybody saw there was reports that the Celtics had a blowout last night in the locker room. After the game they lost the Miami Heat their Dow. To an Marcus smart went ballistic in the locker room. What does it mean? We got Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe joining us next to tell us all about it. But I fox sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation, catch all of our shows at Fox sports radio DOT. com. And within the iheartradio APP search F. S. are to listen live coming to you live from the Geiko Fox Sports Radio Studios. It is easy to say fifteen percent or more on your car insurance. GEICO GO TO GEICO DOT COM or call eight, hundred, nine, four, seven, eight, the only hard part is figuring out which way is easier. He's a friend of the show does a fantastic job covering the NBA one of the national writer for the Boston Globe. Are saying Gary Washburn what's up? What's happening? How you doing we are great men that look we go get to what's going on the Celtics but before their. Everybody on Earth knows you got an MVP vote. Because of you voted for mellow, we know we won't have that famous white. That's right. Abroad but still. Famous voter that's right. Now. Robin I. I'm a voter to voted Janice rob says Janas. Deserved it. As you know, a lot of people think Lebron robbed that he deserved it. Who did you vote for and? What do you say to those? You may have voted for Lebron for all but what do you say to those? Who Think Lebron should have been MVP? Lebron Oh wow got. One at a seventeen. I think. The White Wash Gary on this one eighty-five. Jaanus. That was shocking. I thought it would be more of a split vote. I thought it might be like You know sixty forty something like that as public, the eighty, five and sixteen whatever it was like. I thought with broad did what the Lakers this year number one seed at you know they're not playing a quote unquote loaded championship roster. You talked about the White Howard Straight Avery Bradley Pretty Much Street resort though with a bunch of teams jared Dudley Danny Green and talking about guys, silent players but a payment ad. The rest of the guys and I thought what he did lead the league in assists kind of changes game showing all the skills that I thought he was. The youngest amazing season. Nothing against you I thought Y'all people ask. He's a better numbers but I just thought. What the Brian did with his team on the floor in bringing La back after real disappointing I la. I'm shocked by vote but you know I mean, everybody has their opinions Gill in their. Jerry. I voted for for. Just watering. The broader. Cool. Out. With. The bottle. Not, a level of you. Thought. I thought back to back every piece of really hard to win like I thought it would be more even especially with the Lakers remember that stretch they think they beat the clippers and they eat the bucks. It was just too and Gary. Let's not crave Gary. Here's my only problem I have with you with your your your take on. This is that Jonah's one defensive player the year his numbers were better they had milwaukee. Had the best record in the League and Lebron had Anthony Davis Right. So when you look at it and you give a broad credited, they only had two guys. Jonah's had one guy just him Chris Middleton is not on Anthony Davis par and he still had a better record and had the numbers and play both ends of the floor and Anthony Davis had better numbers than Lebron. Other than assist I'm just shocked by your vote. Part. This was a year and Take. Age into account. Guy Thirty five. You can't do it. Doing Hmo. Only lights you take your age into account when it's his age when my time. Advocate to the. Jay Hall of fame that let's let's. Let's get to the big news. This is the bubble. So what you were one of those report and what was going on in the locker room. So what what happened with Boston last night and do you think there's going be a negative or positive over to all the HOOPLA in the locker room last night? Yeah I can't really say whether it could be negative or positive because you don't know how they're going to come out how guys will respond to win. There's. No altercations and things like that I. We are basically the the locker rooms is not state of the art. You, know two thousand twenty arenas are nice arenas that that are that has some limitations. So basically, the locker will we can walk right past lock say give they put a partition a barrier to where reports to weigh in the they'll clear you to walk path so when they're ready for interviews and Waiting in one of the leaders. There was just a whole lot of yellen. Didn't have enough. Experience yellow with family fights. We've all been to pursue took out. To go home now because I. Cat Drinking too much our. Own. And so. They were a lot of yelling and it was intense and it was extended. Then there was stuff being thrown this here against the wall. So it was like, okay this is not a normal post game like let's Hash it out. This is like This serious argument? It was multiple voices yelling. Put Marcus Marcus with his guys. scorgeous still. The only one. Okay. Well, but he wasn't the only one. So he comes out remember guys like I don't. We don't. We're not allowed inside the locker room got to the cold I don't know what the restroom facilities are like in the locker room but there is a bathroom visit role that is next tool, the locker room that you have to walk outside the locker room and gone. All US. So obviously, it was time for us to go. So he left the locker room when no shirt on is like kind of the gang type. In walked took a bathroom us but we still covered by the barrier. We're still separated by the barrier and we said what calling the tweet y'all awesome. Yes and he said that two. People that the rule. So he used the bathroom for five minutes and the. Continue it was not not stop once he left a really. Yelled he left. So saly after he left it contains. Wow. Gary Are you sure they weren't arguing about the new contract extension for Brad Stevens or was something else. Go take out the. Argued about it was but it it can came once market left roll. Back in and it continued that that. Voices and it was uncomfortable. An NBA folks look at us like we don't know what to do here because the can't tell me to go back spry appeal because so it was it was an extensive time. It was twenty minutes. So you know exit K. everybody came out there was nobody with these scratches or marks fighting but it was definitely a head hash out probably as close. Altercation from a team that was obviously frustrated affect the angry and they feel embarrassed because taking their lunch money in a four hundred days well, being around these guys Gary. Knowing. Them. Year around him throughout the seasons. Do you have a feeling knowing type of people they are how they might react that that I mean. I. Know Brad is not a confrontational type guy. KIMBLE's is probably not like that either do you think you know I know you don't know for sure but you have a gut feeling on whether this could be a positive that unites them or it could be something that just destroys their chemistry for the next few. Games. We like to think that it would be something because they were able to survive the Toronto. Series basically being up almost being up during your last second shot that losing the next game responded to win two out of three against the sitting chance. If they do that they can get through this and just get a game just point he just wanted to get a game. Good about yourself and try to get another one. You can turn around and talk about taking the series or or try to the best two out of three. So I do think this will help them is probably something that the to come out it's probably. A kind of a illustrates how much and how badly they WANNA win and how upset they are. Some they should be embarrassed they should be upset because plays that are being made. Jimmy. Butler skills go on. This stuff that that's hustle plays it's big big Ri- time playoff plays not this. You can't play three and a half quarters in the playoffs. We all know that I don't care what sport you talk about. You can't play half of game three quarters of a game expect to come out you're not that they're not that good, but she has have no fear of the Celtics. Lead go ahead take a twenty point lead. We'll come back we got three point shooters and we got. Confident player in the League Jimmy. Might be the best but. In Real. He's confident player. The League Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy knows that Jimmy can make big plays down the stretch. Yep that's the truth. All right. That's our man one of the best. Man. We'd be for the Boston Globe Gary Gray stuff man we appreciate it. Thank you guys appreciate. Piece Broussard's Fab five is next. Keep it locked Fox sports radio. Be Sure to catch live editions of the odd couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker Weekdays at seven PM Eastern Four PM Pacific on Fox sports radio and the IHEARTRADIO APP hey it's Chris Broussard and between the couple radio. So at night and all my tv work F s one during the day brother got admit is hard finding time to cook, and that's why I love using post mates. I can get food delivered without leaving the house or even opening the door and given. What's going on in the world I? Mean, let's keep it real day created non-contact deliveries. So when I ordered now from local restaurants, everything gets left outside my door. 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Lakers to win the championship for Lebron James to claim his fourth title. That's sparked me to do my fab five this week or the biggest upsets. NBA Finals history. Now I do agree that the Lakers are the heavy favorites now to win their their next championship and that Lebron James. Has a great opportunity. I'm picking him now I believe he should win his fourth title in it'll be great for him and his legacy. But is not a foregone conclusion as this list will show. So let's get to it the five biggest upsets in NBA finals history, and I will read them in chronological order from the oldest to the most recent. Here we go number five, the Boston Celtics nineteen, sixty, nine up setting the La Lakers in seven games. Now, here's the deal it was bill Russell's last season he just won the championship, but he's obviously getting not average nine points this season in the regular season. The Boston Celtics were the fourth seed in the east. They only won forty eight games and the LA Lakers who had been to the finals a year before with Jerry West Elgin Baylor and Gail Goodrich added. Added Wilt Chamberlain. So everybody thought they were GonNa roll they were the top seed in the west and low and behold. The. Celtics. beat him. Jerry. West, was fantastic. That's when of course he was named MVP even though they lost he averaged thirty eight points a game in that series but the Celtics pulled off the major upset number four. Number four, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, five, the Golden State Warriors a sweep. The Washington then called The Washington bullets now. Washington with stacked they Elvin Hayes Hall of Fame Port Power Forward Wes unseld God rest his soul hall of Fame Center. They won sixty games. Everybody thought they were going to roll. Golden State stated only one forty eight games outside of Rick Barry I. Think they had old Nate Thurman. Roster whatnot impressive but Rick Perry averages, thirty points during the season and during the finals and not only let them past the heavily favored bullets buddies swept. Outstanding work by Rob Parker's friend Rick Berry number three. Number three, two, thousand, and four, another one related to Rob Park yet his pom-poms outfit is one. Chauncey billips Rasheed Wallace Been Wallace Rip Hamilton and shop prints pull off the major upset over shack coby Karl Malone, and Gary Payton in the NBA finals in five games no less. It was crazy. Number two number two let's go to two thousand eleven Lebron coming off the not one not two, not three, not four, not five, nine, six, nine. Now they own. Boston in the conference semis in five games they roll through. Their roles in Chicago Bulls in five games in the conference finals and me Dallas, which is led by Dirk Nowitzki and a bunch of old cats Jason Terry Jason Kidd way past his Prime Tyson Taylor saw Marian none of them were the same outside a and Jason Terry and they beat the by me. He is six games. The heat routed them in game one up fifteen in game two with seven minutes left lose but then win game three, I mean. They were clearly superior team and then they fall apart and lose in six. Number One. All right we gotta go back four years the Golden. State Warriors seventy-three wins Steph curry becomes the only player ever to be named unanimous vp they go out to on the cavaliers they go up three one on the cavaliers it seems like it's over but Lebron James and Kyrie Irving say, no, we got something to say about this and they come back for the greatest comeback in NBA finals history and one of the top five upsets ever. So there you have it it is not a foregone conclusion that the Lakers will win I, expect them to but watch and see.

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Blank about the making of the Simpsons Simpson's or whether you guys thought it was going to succeed, the real Simpson's zealots, what are the stories from inside that you can tell them about that they might not actually no I would say the headlines of that are that takes us about a year to create an episode. The writers were extremely hard animation is it's constant rewriting and redoing and the show I appears like in a black and white and Matic version. That's a crude version of the show they rewrite based on seeing that I would say that the show's success is mostly due to the vision of James L Brooks, Mak raining and Sam Simon in the early days, and because James L Brooks who I call Jim by the way in the same way that I call Bill Macy Bill h mate Liam h Macy. I call him. Billy all power moves because Jim was had so much power. In tv. He was the network gave so many notes. That Jim was able to completely ignore and just create the show. He wanted to create which isn't done too much. It takes a year to create an episode. How old are you? I mean six hundred years old. Yes. Jeers? Yes. Well, no, they're working on many concurrently. It just takes about a year in advance before they that mean like. Concurrently? Yes. All at the same time. Oh, yeah. That is pretty startling though. Is it not put it on the pole Guillermo at lebatardshow? Did you have any idea that a Simpson's episode as Simpson's episode took a year? So the notes from the executives they tried to screw it up. Big time. Yes. I mean, they network TV let me put it this way. The great shows that come on TV. I have even more adver more admiration for them. Than than the general public might because I know how hard it is to get by all the the crazy notes you're getting based on market research. Just whatever they needed the time or what the advertisers want or need or or creative notes from executives that may not be really in line with the vision of the of the creator of the show that if you somehow make a really good show despite all that it's incredible. And that's why most show suck on network TV. But in my ear for an episode. I mean, who's running this thing Lorenzo, and Charlie you really stuck on this, really. Here just seems well from the beginning to the end from concept to completion of animation takes longtime. Is it an easy job for me? Extremely I mean, you it's no different than what I'm doing here. Right now. Played us y'all talk like this joke. Young Eric Roberts. You got to cut off. Like freaked out with this. It's really hard not to curse. Really wanted to say punching bow. Researching the name of Hector escaped me, and I saw you did an interview with Larry King, and you got that role because Robert Downey junior bailed out last seconds. Correct. I got my part in America's because Robert Downey junior was unavailable during a turbulent time means career. So he was just drugged out. Right. I mean US Senate, Dan limited. The benefits pretty famous drug wasn't any secret. Yes. He was having difficulty and at the time, and he boy, he rebounded. Okay. Didn't he? Yeah. You should have been iron, man. Yeah. If only Robert later could have had problems than maybe I don't think I think I still wouldn't have been iron, man. I don't think any number of actors could have any amount of difficulty that would have ended up in me being loved to imagine. I love you the area as a neurotic, ironman. Guys, please. I know I know it's a hard exterior, but inside it's very it's not easy. Not easy wrangling. My ninety one year old mother just everybody. Step lightly. Totally different movie really is more like a Woody Allen. Like, no, please. I need the shell. Because I you know, it's tremendous pressure. You know with the other guys in the costumes and the evil and the aliens, it's not easy. Did you have you ever been surprised or you must be surprised all the time? I guess by the reach of the Simpsons. No, just do you have anything for us in in storytelling where you're like. I can't believe that either this person wants to break this down with me or this person. Or this place is interested in the Simpsons. That's happened a lot. I mean like weird things like shooting the birdcage. There was an actor at the time who is shooting in the sound stage next door who was first movies, and unknown guy. And he kind of a cost me how much he loves the Simpsons and sort of picking my brain. I'm like who is this dude? I sorta ran away from them, you know, on the lot and that actor that actor was none other than Edward Norton who was shooting his first big thing, primal fear. I think it was if I know what a big movie stars turn into. I would have given him much much more of the time of day. But yeah, it's you know, and also I've got to meet so many Rockstars. That's been the weird corner of of doing the show like 'cause I'm not my job is to hang out with actors, but sports figures in and and and musical performers. I it's never lost on me. How I'm totally an all like meeting, Mick Jagger, and Tom petty and David Byrne, and it's been amazing where you weird around them. Or were you able to be composed? A funny thing about when you get your fortunate enough to meet all these people whose names, I drop is you never know who you're going to be freaked out by David Byrne. I lost my mind. I if you ask them before I'm with David Byrne freaked me on us than I don't think. So, but even more than the Mick Jagger is like oh my God. You know, what actor I freaked out the most upon meeting Vincent Price? I I don't know why Vincent Price young Eric. Eric, Robert, you don't know. There was they often that you're obsessed with that. Catching for some ads. Again, if you wanna support Anka's area for lending us some of his time. He doesn't ask us that we promote this, but you should watch these three of Brock Meyer Wednesday, April third ten pm on. I f c I two seasons are available on Hulu donlevatar punctuate this segment with what is your strike recall strike, one would be sure. And then you stand up a good point to the rights to guts that same for strike, but straight through you get down low. You got your hands behind the catcher? All right. The right arm goes up into the air. Yeah. And then you finish it with the punch, right? Our way up into the air. Wish I see that. Does. This is our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. If you missed any of the show, you can listen to all three hours of the Dan lebatardshow. Plus our Miami only hour and our best of podcast on demand in the ESPN app. And subscribe to the laboratory in France podcast network, featuring south beach sessions as well as stupidity. Our brand new podcast hosted by eight new episodes every week please rate and subscribe, it's all valve on the more tab of the ESPN app Hankas area with us in studio. He has been giving us really fun stories about Gene Hackman and make meeting, Mick Jagger. And and Robert deniro buddy, also, Mike, and I don't know we've got an uneasy tension here because I want to ask him about all that stuff. But Hank wants Hank is down on basketball, man. He's down on basketball right now. I mean party could because Nick fan. So what do I have to be happy about twenty years? But I honestly I wanna ask you guys. I feel like almost. Every sport Sakai here is basically schilling for the NBA is being disingenuous. If you don't admit that. It's really boring. It's a movie that, you know, the ending of we all know that the warriors are going to win Durant going to the warriors as much as the cupcake stuff has been made. It's even you can't state it enough. How awful that MU. I don't know. How you banner Bill. It's horrible. It was terrible. The sport. It makes it unwatchable. It's inter-. The east is interesting this year without LeBron. It's it's a fourteen race that is actually interesting. But you know, that it's just who's gonna lose to the warriors as a result. It's there's a little bit of interest in can use and pull themselves together to beat the words, which I'd be very fascinated. If that did happen, but you know, that some combination of Chris Paul being heard and hard and not being as good as in the regular season is gonna make them not win that Syria. It's terrible that combined with Erin feel like only the last five minutes of. The NBA game is worth watching anyway own and only if the score is close. So is it just the the pageantry the the the ballot check brilliance of the sport. That's interesting. What is interesting about this league anymore? Nothing because Kevin Durant ruined the league. I mean since you brought it up. He is at you. And you're right, by the way, he is completely ruined the league. Because the only team listen, he did what no other athlete would do. Right. This would be the equivalent of Michael Jordan rather than coming back and trying to beat the pistons. He would join the pistons because he couldn't beat him on his own, right? That's what the rat did. And the only thing that could be the Golden State Warriors is the team that has Kevin Durant. But unfortunately, the warriors have Kevin Durant at so no one can beat the Golden State. You said it can't be stated enough to God says accepted your challenge, and we'll continue to state it enough already done. We finished even that argument, though, that you know, that that that Michael Jordan wouldn't have done it. That's too. That's too blaming it on old school. There's nothing. There's no old school argument. You need to make. Was the Chris Paul tra- trade to the Lakers that was banned. Right. That wasn't a trade though. Or was it was a trade. But I think it was a trade, and then David Stern reversed the trae as how do you not and Kevin Durant? One is a free agent. Correct. Yes. All right. I have to after being up three one in the Western Conference finals against the Golden State Warriors should have banded is my point I agree with you and banned him. Hey, hold on. You're saying that basketball is too predictable and boring and earlier today you said no one else is excited about opening day of a hundred sixty two game regular season. This is apples and oranges. My friend to me. I mean, I Li yeah. Well, yes. Opening day is like a right of passage as pastoral like baseball itself. It's spring is here, and it's a tradition and you remember going with your dad, and and you know, and your family to the game. And it's there's nothing dramatic about it. It's just time pass lovely. You don't know how each games, and I don't know how each games. No, I the warriors replaying the Mets they beat the Mets. He's right about that. That is a. Hank represents a certain demo. That speaks that way about baseball. Explaining to me. What is that on hearing a white? I'm white. Yeah. Wait again. Eight again, please. Please. And you are what is he like you were asking, no. No. But wait, I mean, where is he where do you go? Twain to me. You defend yourself explaining to me. How basketball's injured? What's interesting to you? What have you seen the movie independence day? Yes. Okay. When you were watching independence day was there ever a point where you said, hey aliens are gonna win. This thing and humanity is gonna get you knew at the end of the day Will Smith will conquer and they would beat the aliens. Right. Doesn't make it any less of an enjoyable ride. It's about the journey not the destination now. No, no, no now. Now now, I've heard other sports talk folks that I won't mention because they're your competition. Make that argument. Okay. Whole and the whole Colin exactly the whole point of making movies. Like, you do your best to make a convincing that maybe it's not gonna work out that way, you know, there's nothing you could do to this basketball season apart from kneecap. Three guys on the warriors. Not even just two of them. That would would put it in doubt. Are you kidding me? The warriors have been doing that all season long. They bicker with each other. You got Draymond green, Colin. Kevin durant? Something you got Jordan bell putting things on the off stuff. That really has you concern that the warriors are not gonna win and champion. Joining full charge the Mike through it's over. That's your role gentleman. Yes, you I that's an interesting. So in other words, your proxy making my point. So how the warriors are going to win is more fascinating to you a more interesting to your just as interesting to you as if they might not win. Wow. That that's crazy. Just like independence have. Reindeer Quaid flying of the tailpipe, by the way independence day was ridiculously awful. Ready swayed in a fight. Hey. This area two minutes in the penalty box. He's gonna spend two minutes out there. Donlevatar manage Drexler. Absolutely not. Jordan Rex ler. Look, it's not a Tom Millsap. A couple more years. Sar? Stugatz. I'll tell you what demolition man is demolition man is Jamal McClure. That's. It out. That's disrespectful. Unbelievable. VC's live at our show with his Stu gods on ESPN radio sportscenter. This one's brought to you by selectquote. I know you guys all look forward to the selectquote one. Well, this is it. All right, call it out, boys. Who should we hear from Frank Grimes of Frank Grimes? That's obscure ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. I'm sorry. I'm just so angry. But whom are Simpson guests on the land lebatardshow appear via the shell Pennzoil performance. Kirk Van Houten. Kirk van out and your sportscenter update the Hornets in books are going to play in the NBA first regular season game in Paris when twenty twenty so that's pretty cool. I'd sleep in a race car. This goes to the Spurs retired Mnuchin nobody's jersey following their victory over the Cavaliers red Flintstone. Don't just do anywhere. This disres- Chris. What's the matter with you? I don't do for Flintstone. In fact, they asked me to do it on the Simpsons, and I couldn't and Dan had to do it and place Homer Simpson, man. Then pulls out my voice, I told you that already. Leaving in a second. Finally, according to scientists. Who does Brunson? According to scientists earth is currently undergoing its sixth math extinction event, where that's that's appropriate that chose Brunson read that he's the select won't say they've loafing fronts in. Here's the selectquote term life insurance difference most companies. You know, most companies give you one option one policy one radio, but selectquote shops and could get you up to ten options. From highly rated life insurance for a free personalized quote. Call eight hundred seven eight zero ten ten or go to selectquote dot com. For all the latest headlines and information, tune into sports center on ESPN radio all throughout the day. Hang thank you the audience really enjoyed. It's time with you. We really enjoyed our time with you checkout. Hang today. Four thirty eastern ESPN highly questionable. Also support the things that Hank is doing Brock Meyer. You just heard him say it's a passion project for him season. Three premieres Wednesday third at ten pm on. I have see I two seasons are available on Hulu. He just spent two and a half hours doing our jobs. Yeah. He really did. Thank you, Hank. And you get a Bill you'll get a Bill. Thank you for being on with us. We appreciate it. Thanks for having me. I love doing this. Go warriors, right go warrior mean and Hank were still arguing during the break about this. I mean your arguments were much better off air. It's it's a hard thing to be better off air, then you are on air heater the mind dinner. Okay. Thank you for all your help. You could go now. Hank smith's? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get up and go thank you for being on a me wants to spend more time with you. Yes. I mean is cornered you and wants to talk Star Wars with you. Who's our biggest Star Wars dork? Is it a mean? Oh. Yeah. By for you the biggest Star Wars fan. I know. I mean L has like he's really a means really excited to sit down with Hank. You talk about that's the horse. Well, I just got in here late because a mean just ran in here took the seat and started asking, you know, be one coming kanobi question. Sounded like you knew that name. It'll be one. Well, I have not been smoothed today. Perhaps Mike has an example of this. We've got a show business expert with us, and because I can get discombobulated when this environment gets altered I actually ended a segment that's we pride ourselves on ending smoothly ending with a joke. Ending funny. Here is how I ended a segment today. Stay with us hankers area. I just I didn't complete the thought I was it seemed like I was just asking hankers area to stay with. They with us hankins area Anka's area. What I should be your new sign off. Questionable. Stay with us. Let's talk sign off. They didn't Dan rather for a while and his his broadcast with a saying and for a while wasn't just the word, courage, courage. And then he would join us on the radio, and he would say Tampa up solid, and I had no idea what that meant. There with us hangs area gear mode. Did you did you recover from the you? I lost you for the show when hankins area attacked you in the first segment in a way that was a bit shocking to all of us. I'm good. Are you you got dunked on in the first segment and you haven't spoken since then that's it checked out. Check out this show too. Big movie star pushed around you're having you should have heard. I picked fights yesterday with the celebrities were on so stay in my corner, your gun shy. You weren't so gun shy. When I went into the back room, put my arm around you and tried to console you. And you're like show me what he is without his writer. Wow. He fossils hurt over here. He also how awkward was but his arms around you in the bathroom. That's like top five spot where you shouldn't do that to me. We've actually had now that we're bringing this up. I know that's a joke. But we've actually had conversations where we go downstairs, and we're like at the urine is like how's it going? And it's like I just kinda wanna finish my business right now. And then we have meetings. I mean, I'm done, but I guess conversation that done some stick here. Watch UP for a little bit talk to you. While you p p the problem with any of this Stu gods is uncomfortably comfortable in the bathroom just all bathroom related things through. God's has. No problem. I've told you before his arm around me. Hey, what's going on down there at lebatardshow put it on the poll? Please. Are you comfortable talking to people while you're pooping? He wants ate a sandwich and a bathroom. I did. Yep. And I'll do it again put that on the poll as well at lebatardshow. Will you eat a sandwich in the bathroom two birds? Thank you, Stu got. They pre shit. Nncholas cage here. His marriage lasts his fourth marriage lasted four days can someone please explain to me what happened there is. It just nNcholas cage. I'm surprised that lasted that long doesn't you have two marriages now that lasted like a like a couple of weeks at Lisa Marie Presley was that was under. I think it was like around two and a half months. What's happening though? Nick cage is happening. I wanted to construct this for a second. You decide in the world wind romance that is your life. We're getting married, and then four days later, you change your mind that damn near seems impossible. What that nNcholas cage comes off as impulsive, or is it both let you would you would quit someone you. You would do whatever it is it takes to get married from paperwork to oaths. And then four days later, you're like never mind. I was watching a movie marathon on the history channel and one of the movies. They were showing was the USS Indianapolis now, this is one of the rare nNcholas cage movies that I hadn't yet seen and it's all about the USS, Indianapolis, you don't say that actually sinks gets attacked by the Japanese, and they it sinks in the shark infested waters, and you think like most shark movies. They would wait a second to build it up. But as soon as nNcholas cage hits the water, there's a great white shark, which I looked up is not indigenous to the Filipino sees. But doesn't stop. Them from doing this. And there's one of the great scenes in movie history where Tom Sizemore is holding his own foot. It's been severed, and for whatever reason he doesn't want to let go of his own foot and nNcholas cage is treating him on on a raft. And it's just you're chef's kiss. That movie where you smiling throughout the watching of it is that that's his last movie, isn't there is no, no, no. It's fairly recent one in the whole nNcholas cage spectrum because this was one of the rare theatrical releases limited though, it may be maybe he had a big that was a critically acclaimed movie that was releasing some art houses have you ever watched. Mandy, a little crazy for me. You know, what I put it in the Mike? I put it on this wishlist thing where I have three hundred to all of you have three hundred things in the wishlist and accu- if you put it in the queue, and you decide I don't want. I'm going to watch this eventually, but I'm not in the mood right now. I've done that with Mandy about one hundred times. Here's a here's a trick with Mandy spoiler alert. Just fast forward to the part in the bathroom where he has his mental breakdown. Just you can skip the first hit yet. You'll know that okay. They're Satan is out there. And here's what you need to know. They the killed this girl, and they're satanist fast forward to the bathroom scene. And then he gets revenge. How far? How far into the move you'll know the bathroom scene. It's the scene work nNcholas cage, his faces an agony screaming, well, actually, that's a whole movie. Sorry, and they're in a bathroom. That's a dead giveaway. It's his whole career donlevatar. It's friday. I'm getting into the weekend. I want to get my drink on. Stugatz. You've got to open up the club open. It. I would open it now. But is the computer buffering there is these things live at our show with two guys on ESPN radio. Then a good week of shows despite some of your incessant complaining in our audience at lebatardshow is where you go to vote on all of the polls. We've only got a few today, and we're about to open up the club or thanks again to hankins area for spending the show with us today. You can check him out on highly questionable later today for thirty eastern at lebatardshow on Instagram and Twitter. What do we have over there? Guy. What to words make you? Missed your opening day or game six what happened to let's get ready to rumble should be in a fifty one percent of the audience at opening day. Fifty one is calling William H Macy Bill. Macy a power move that you're acid as man. Eighty four percent of the audience said, yes is the magic creative content music, magical or anxiety inducing. Why why would someone bet their ass? That's an excellent question. Why that's an excellent question. Why I guess it's because you value in right? Maybe it's a maybe it's a donkey origin. It's a good question. Let's find out before the end of the segment at Lebanon in the in the meantime, thank God. It was a good question because I stepped on. Stugatz. And I kept having. Having a hell of a week. You're in your own head Kins. Happens fake. It all might have to send you down in the minors for. Listen, you got a whole weekend and think about it. So. I'm here for you. If you wanna talk I've been there man the back row today. The back road today is really been broken. Guillermo had his spleen stolen from him during the first Hankas areas, and he might not recover until the middle of next week. We'll see. Do you like sports radio more than you like sports? Hey, Gezairy said that fifty eight percent of the audience that no I'm surprised forty two percent of the audience said, yes, they should have watched Texas Tech Michigan game. Unbelievable to why wo- are you comfortable talking to people while pooping? Seventy three percent of the audience said. Yeah, said no excuse me. We eat a sandwich in the bathroom. Why are you laughing? He's he's made riches beyond your. Wow, this state. Make I cash in what he did. Talks to God's will eat a sandwich in the bathroom to chain. Eighty percent of the audience said, no. Those are the polls. So let's go ahead and open up the club. We send you into the weekend. We've been doing it for years around. Here we send you into the weekend with an assortment of sounds, and it's just sort of remembering the week that was usually. And then when I do it like this for five minutes Mike has to find other stuff in the library as well. Let's do it. They with us Anka's area. We do it every week every single week. What do you have for the first sound? Who's the first person in the club is how we typically do. All right. Who's the first person the club? I mean as the call me, Chris karaoke. What did you wanna go with their was it, Cody? Oh, cure was it Kerry co Cody already I mean as to call me, Chris karaoke. We could see you can hear it. You can hear the fear that little gap a little Chris, and I locked eyes during that little speed bump, and I saw terror. I mean, they used to call me Chris Carey Okla rector, Cody. Oh, kids better. There is it not Khodyo. Carry Oti is pretty good anything's better than karaoke Garrett. Jokey? I mean, they used to call me, Chris karaoke. In the club soc who switch was that? Was that yours Billy? I guess. That was back when you had confident. Yeah, I've never that was just during that one one moment in time that one sound is the only time you've had confidence soc. I don't think I could do that. Again. If you ask I'm going to ask you to. Now, the baby one. Which? Destroyed you and that I. So sh-. Club. Who is that? To God's swish. That Daniel Baldwin. Wealth in the club. How is it? Good one listener, Mike. It's the only good one. We got right. I screen that. Who else in the club, Dan? I don't want to upset him. But last question five minutes or so if I ask him which celebrity you wanted to let die. That was why wait a minute. Wait a minute that was wild bear Grylls was listening. Billy asked a five minute question. He got called on. It was the second question of the interview. It was a terrible question. And this is how he defended himself. I don't wanna upset him. But last question to five minutes dancer, so if I ask him which celebrity you wanted to let die. My question was did you take the elevator because the stairs were broken? Which granted is not a good question. Soc. Soc. Go on. But Rick the quite aim another one question was another one question was Rick Barry. I I cannot tell you how happy stugatz peacock looming. Chest expanding he got taller as he he out fucked. Rick berry at the end of this question was Rick Perry. Go on to win. Go on to win. But Rick the number one question was another one question was Rick Barry. It's me filling dive, it's still someone told me came alive. One. You want to me that is alleged karaoke champion amino has and getting dusted by Chris, Cody, Cody, okay. Why you want to hurt me? Wealth in the club. My breaking. The young era grovel. People get that coach, Mike. We made that joke. Forty times today. I'm not sure the audience. Your sportscenter up day. Traded Robert Quinn. Blows out his voice every time in the club. Well, it's in the car. And now your sportscenter up day. Any other weird? Any final thoughts here. Chris want wanna close out?

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Who Wants Some Trivia? | Ben Simmons Hit A Three

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Who Wants Some Trivia? | Ben Simmons Hit A Three

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A last minute deals on tickets up to sixty percents off before we get to the show. I wanted to let you all know that today. Friday November twenty ninth. The athletic is holding a black Friday sale. We're talking fifty percent off if you're not already a member of the athletic. Wow Wow what is wrong with you. You dummy why don't you love us. Not only does a subscription get you all of our no dunks podcasts AD free but it also allows you access to the very best sports writing in the world real talk. Og NBA heads. No I'm right so check out the athletics black Friday sale today for for fifty percents off your yearly subscription. Just go to the athletic dot com slash. No dunks and join in on the fun. The question who on some trivia welcome to the NO DUNKS NBA Trivia. Show where the only thing you can win is my up. Most respect. I'm I'm your host g skeets and joining me live from Canada. It's my co host and score keeper. Jd what's up James. Hey what's up guys. Let's get right into it and meet today's contestant on who want some trivial. He is a thirty six year old writer actor and podcast known best for his work. As part of the comedy duo Jake and Amir. He recently wrote and starred in the series lonely and Horny he co host the very very funny advice. podcast if I were you. Any host boasts what I believe to be the Internet's one millionth NBA. podcast all buckets. Is Ladies and gentlemen. Give it up for Amir Blumenfeld Mirror. Welcome to the show. Hey thanks for having me a really really appreciate shade. It a mirror. It says here in my notes that you've never chewed a piece of gum is that true. Wow that's a good question. I I think I've tried gum and like some sort of like obstacle course or online video like have you ever done this situation Asian. But I've never like in real life just popped a piece of gum for the fun of it that's fascinating let's get into today's Trivia theme the last week the unthinkable happened Amir. Ben Simmons finally hit a three pointer the seventy sixers. all-star entered the night over seventeen eighteen from behind the arc in his two plus seasons in the League but in the first quarter against the Knicks. The number one pick of the sixteen death he let it fly from the corner and he knocked down around and everybody went nuts baby. CBS He's NBA career. So the Ozzy Not Leila's this Saucy Ben Simmons hit a three the Internet loved it and thus our theme was born Amir. All of today's questions are about the NBA. Three point shot shot. I love it. I'm a specialist with regards to three point Trivia. Oh that's great. I know you play basketball. I was going to ask you. Do you consider yourself more more of an outside threat or are you Are you banging on the inside. Like your Kevin McHale. It's tough because I'm equally bad at both but but I wouldn't say I'm worse or better at anything I would say. I'm a better three point shooter than I am a banger download. Okay right well this is right right in your wheelhouse. That all right Amir. Are you ready to play. Who saw some Trivia Jd? My Man. Dan Please take us through these scorekeeping rules a mayor. We're going to start with seven multiple choice questions. You will be awarded two points for for every correct. Answer you get without using a lifeline. More on those in a moment you'll get one point for every correct. Answer using a lifeline. Align let you'll get zero points if you get it wrong and Amir these questions. They're not going to be easy. Even if you're an outside threat these are not going to be easy. You got three different. I tried to answer one right now. Yeah go ahead all right Dennis Scott and now AH Dennis Scott. We'll come up in this show but that is not a correct answer so we're not going to hold that against you though. Yeah yeah sorry. Sorry about that but here you have this. This you'll have three different lifelines Amir that can be used only once each. They are the ejection lifeline. That's where I eliminate one of the incorrect options since you have the. GimMe some Mo- lifeline. That's GonNa that's GonNa be one where I give you a little hint about the correct answer. Maybe steer you in the right direction a little bit. And then you have the phone a friend lifeline. But the catch is we're not phoning one of your friends. We're not phoning jake. No no no. We're phoning one of my friends for help. Okay Okay your friends smart It depends on it. Depends what we call it. So you've got the ejection section. Lifeline the Gimme some oh life and the phone a friend lifeline to important notes before we begin Amir. Yeah don't be a Tom Gugliotta. Okay don't use Google to find the answers first gentleman's rules here. Oh no cheating no cheating Joe Cheating and the second the second notice for the listeners. Listening right now play along at home keep track of your score. See if see if you can beat a mere here all right. I'm here. Are you ready. Yeah I've listened to a few of the other trivia episodes and there was only one question. I think that I was able to get that. Anybody else wasn't so I know low. You guys are asking some difficult questions. These are not going to be easy at A. Let's get into it. Our first question. Chris Ford of the Boston Celtics is credited with making the first three point shot in NBA history on October Twelfth Nineteen seventy-nine versus the Houston Rockets but which other NBA star hit a three in that exact same same game. Was it aide Rick Berry of the Houston Rockets. Be Larry Bird of the Boston. Celtics see Dave Have Cowan's of the Boston Celtics or D.. Calvin Murphy of the Houston Rockets with other star. Hit a three in that game. Where Chris Ford it hit the first one ever all right? I'm trying what. What was the date you said October? Twelfth nineteen seventy. I'm just trying to imagine. Imagine the game October twelve. Yeah Yeah Okay I can see Chris Ford just hit a three right sort of fast forwarding. Through my mind's eye who hit the next three and it's it's not It's a possibility that all those people hit a three. But I'm asking you're asking with the next three or a person. Only one other person hit a three in that game of the four I gave you okay all right all right so the obvious. Answer is Larry Bird because you know three point specialist. Everyone knows that but are you going to start with something. That's simple not not something that easy Rick Barry on the rockets that I didn't realize he played for the rockets. And maybe he didn't. Maybe that's a clue. You're trying to tell me not to choose that one Calvin Murphy. I know he was a great free throw shooter but does that necessitate a great three point shooter. And then I know Dave Callaghan's one. MVP So what kind of MVP can't hit course really thinking this through. I appreciate it frantically using Yahoo to search. Actually what's your answer. I'm going to go. I want to trust my white gut and choose Dave cowans. MVP for the Boston Celtics. Dave calendars your final answer. The final answer that's incorrect. Yes Sir Yeah No. The answer is a Rick Barry so yeah he played for the rockets. This is wild in his final. NBA season. The hall of Famer hit a three in that same game Ford and in fact I love this apart. This little this little nugget here. He wasn't gun shy with that. New Fan dangled three point line. He attempted three threes in the twenty two minutes off the bench. You believe that all underhand. Grandma's that's right that's right so okay. Alvin blocked yeah exactly exactly twenty. Okay so off to a tough star but I tell you you were talking to through. That's important you'll eventually get to the right answer so after wine. Obviously you got the sake. But that's okay lots of question I wanna I wanNA prove that I know what I'm doing even though I won't get the right answer. Want people thinking I'm moron. I was look. I almost give you half a point. For Knowing Calvin Murphy was great at the free throw line but onto our next question pushing for three seasons beginning in ninety four ninety five the NBA attempted to address decreased scoring by shortening. The distance of the three point line from twenty three feet nine inches up top to a uniform. Twenty two feet around entire basket so they shortened it who led the League in total three pointers made over that time period from ninety four ninety five to the ninety six ninety seven season three seasons. Was it a mookie. Blaylock be Reggie Miller see Mitch Richmond or D. Dennis Scott and before you answer you do have three lifelines at your disposal title and you did say Tennis Scott. My random guess before the Trivia game starter was incorrect right. I absolutely did so well all done by eliminating already Dennis Scott. So it's down to three. Mookie blaylock Reggie Miller or Mitch Richmond. Who led the League in total three pointers made over over that time period where they had the short line? I before you even said the answer choices. I was thinking Sean Leonard I know. It's for Sean Leonard. They're gonNA Save Sean Letter. You'RE GONNA look so smart because it's Sean fucking Leonard. And they won't even believe that you thought of it before the answer choices. Who would think of for Sean lettered only you? You're a stud and you didn't Save Sean. Leonard I don't think it was Mookie blaylock. I don't think he's shot that many three. I'm I'm down to Reggie and Mitch remember that. Remember that inside stuff. Where Mitch Richmond? Used to shoot an dark jim and he goes I shoot with the lights offs so that I can shoot the lights out shooting the lights out so I can shoot the lights out and then they just showed him shooting in an empty Jim in the dark which I think was nine thousand nine hundred four four. So That's my answer Mitch. Richmond final answer lock it in nailed it away downtown. So that's incorrect. It is not rich but I love again. How you got your answer? It's just always taking you to the wrong answer. No this this one. This one's a I think one of the more difficult questions from the bunch here. It's Mookie blaylock. Mookie blaylock both times you've said Some person and I hadn't definitely not that one in both those times. It's been that one over those three seasons. Mookie blaylock hit six hundred and fifty one three pointers which was fifty nine. More than Reggie Miller. Blaylock hit one hundred ninety nine two hundred and thirty one and then two hundred twenty one with the short in line and the next year when it went back to normal like the longer distance. Mookie hit just ninety this crazy. He's a Demar Derozan. Imagine that's exactly right okay. Jd What's Amir score. After two rounds after two rounds score has zero points obviously the asleep. I haven't gotten one yet. You don't have to ask the score. I'll tell you the scores in zero question question number both times if he asked me to rank the possibility I would have had the correct answer deadline. He's kidding feisty I love it question number three Amir's the lights off in the studio I can shoot them all right when it comes to the regular season Steph. Curry is currently the NBA's all time active. Give leader in career made three pointers. Still Chasing Ray Allen's two thousand nine hundred seventy three but I want you to tell me who is the. NBA's all time active leader in career three point attempts and a quick note here. My definition of active is a player who has played in at least one game this regular season okay. Is it a vince. Carter be James Harden See Z. Kyle Korver or D. J. J. Redick three lifelines still the US interesting. So I thought your hint meant and the answer was Carmelo Anthony but I guess not Hardened shoots a lot of threes. But he's only been in the NBA for about like ten seasons versus defenses. Twenty one so I don't think he shoots twice as many threes although he does shoot like eighteen the game versus Vince. Carter's to or three now day. Deployed is in play I'm leaning towards someone who's been playing since two thousand three and also have been shooting a solid amount for that amount of time which is cal. Korver Korver who was the first one again A Vince Carter be James Harden see Kyle Korver or D. J. J. Redick okay How many questions left? And how many lifelong well. Yeah that's the thing you will you have. If we're counting this one right now. There are only five questions remaining. And you'd still have three lifelines. Definitely we WANNA use those otherwise okay. I don't WanNa waste the lifelines but at the same time. I'm fairly certain it's Kyle Korver final answer. Final answer without using lifeline. So you're going for two points here. Is that correct. That's right. That's incorrect. How it possible? I demand recount. Well I counted them all. I went back and I watched every three point attempt. It is a Vince Carter. I thought you were going to go without a choice. Yeah I mean he attempted over has attempted. He's still playing for crying. Out Loud. Has Attempted over six thousand three pointers. I mean he's played like you said when you when you were you were like the guys played twenty one years. That's got to be a lot of threes. I was like Oh yeah. He's getting this one. But but yet vince. It's not kyle. But according to basketball reference KORVER's accenture specialist. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's true according to basketball reference. Jamal Crawford is technically heck. Nicholas the active leader because he hasn't retired but he hasn't played a game yet this season. That's why I threw that part in their Crawford actually ranks third all time in three point attempts behind just ray Allen and Reggie Miller so I won't Atlema Korver a second. I don't have that information in front of me but let's just for the sake of your sanity. Sure Hell Yeah. Yeah we were not going to ask you what your scores. We're going to go right to question number. Four the season zero last season all-star swingman Klay Thompson set an NBA record by knocking down. Fourteen three pointers in one game. Eclipsing Steph Curry's mark thirteen. I want you to tell me who clay set that record against. I was it a okay. Okay I know the answer. Hold on I got it was eighty Atlanta hawks be the Chicago Bulls. See The Los Angeles Lakers or d the The Sacramento Kings. All right. Now that you said it I was thinking it was the Memphis Grizzlies. Yeah no I know I remember. This game was the Bulls Chicago. That is your final answer. Lock it in. The man is on the board yes back baby with the to relax their again. Still choosing not to use the lifeline. That's right yeah. Clay Klay hit the fourteen threes October. Twenty ninety caught fire in the United Center. Went Fourteen for twenty four from distance. That was the game. He had fifty two points in twenty seven minutes and he we did it all wearing what Jersey correct give them ten points for that. No you remember. He had A. It was the Klay Headband game that he was rocking that for a little bit so yes all right so yes here we go. He's got two points. He's got three questions remaining meaning before we get to the rapid fire. And you have three lifelines Amir so don't be afraid to use these even if you're even if you're feeling pretty good about a particular answer I feel like fourteen is is not that much in the grand scheme of things like if the warriors are five and thirty eight this year and stuff comes back. He should just play games. Only shoots threes to see if he can make twenty one eight thirty forty three thousand a game. I think you're actually onto something here. I would be shocked. If we don't see curry's excuse me Claes record of fourteen three pointers owners made in one game fall at some point this season. I mean we just. It feels like we're getting more and more guys like we just had buddy healed earlier and earlier in the week eleven. We're going to get a clock Levin. Yeah right right. Yeah that's right that's right. That's right what is it. What is it about shooting in that United Center man? ooh That game was actually on the road. It was in Charlotte Charlotte. Oh Yeah you're right. Okay good okay ten points again for you. So you're you're you're killing this point all right all right question number five Tied with debt left shrimp which MBA superstar shares the record for fewest points scored in any round around in all star three point contest history. Is it a fewest. Yes is it. A Ray Allen Be Kevin Kevin Durant see Michael Jordan or D. Dirk Nowitzki fewest tied with debt left for the worst base through the worst score in any all star. Three point contest round you. Have you have three lifelines. Yeah the three point contest is something. I'm not super familiar with. Don't have a in-depth in-depth understanding and recall of the history there. I will call one of your friends and hope hope to God that they can figure. Okay okay well. This is an interesting phone a friend because I'm in fact not even a phone my friend today. I'm just GONNA turn to my right eight sort of reach out tap him on the shoulder because he's sitting a good two feet from me. It's my friend. Trey Kerby trae Amir Ameer trae you guys know each other. Hello Sir how are you chilling woven. The podcast tree's been listening to you to you answering the question so I mean okay. Well trae you've heard the question. You're sitting literally right beside me. I'll say at once again just for the listeners out there tied with debt left shrimp which MBA superstar shares the record for fewest points scored in any round in all star three point contest history. Aron Be Kevin Durant see Michael Jordan de Dirk Nowitzki and the mirror safe to say you weren't really really leaning one direction or another here right I had an inkling but so far my inklings have led me astray trae. Have you known the questions I've gotten wrong. I have known a couple of questions and lucky for you. This is one of the questions I know you call the record l.. Yeah it's Michael Jordan. Wow good man you know what I don't have to take his advice to heart though right. That's I can still pull it on. That is funny. You say that because in in the phone a friend history here of who wants some Trivia My friends have not done. Well they've in fact steered Both legally and Dan tasks sort of in the wrong direction. We're much help. So but you know trae pretty confidently saying Michael Jordan. He's obviously a huge bulls fan so I will say though At some point I assume skeets will tap me for this podcast so maybe I'm just sabotaging you to make the leader board. That's next level. Oh that's next level thinking right there okay so so. Tk says MJ for the fewest points scored in any three point contest. History round. It's your ultimately your call though Amir no I mean if I don't trust a bulls fan named trae about Michael Jordan. Three Point Fan three three point contest history. Then who am I. I'm going to go Michael Jordan. Well done well done gentlemen way to get there. Yes you who Did it you you you got a little lucky here with me just decided to go with. Tk as the friends. Because that's the Bulls fans going to know that Yeah Michael Jordan scored he total total. Just five points in the first round of the nineteen ninety shootout in Miami. You know can't be everything I guess. Yeah at least. He's sucks the worst thing. Yeah it's sort of like no worst. Of all time I sort of like knowingness. That Jordan did struggle that all right so jd. What is Amir score after around around five Amir has three points on the board? Okay questions left. Yup How apt to questions left to lifelines laughed. Left all right question number six. According to basketball reference which big man holds the record for the most made three pointers in one distinct playoff run now for the record. I am defining big man as a player listed six foot. Eleven or taller is it. A A channing. Frye be Marcus. All See Brook Lopez or D.. Dirk Novitsky. Yeah target talk it out or asked me any. Follow up questions if you want. If that and you know it's a it can be sort of somewhat of a confusing question. Yeah maybe yeah. This is in one playoff. WHO's hit the most threes? Yes so in one playoff run. That's right like one you know. So let's say like the two thousand four playoffs The player could have played in one round two rounds three rounds or four rounds obviously. Yeah which big man six foot eleven taller. According to basketball reference has the most made three pointers in that particular playoff run. WHO has that record? Okay Lopez never made a final. so He'd have to do it in like three series is like last year made it to the conference finals. But still they shoot so many threes that it was able to make more than a channing. FRYE IN THE CLEVELAND RUN channing Frye did he make that many threes for the cavs in any of their playoff runs. Perhaps Nowitzki seems to be the answer. That's a yelling at me. Because he had that amazing run Against the heat six eleven probably shot a lot of threes. They shoot so many more threes now than they did a decade ago and then who is the fourth option Yeah channing Frye Mark Assault Brook Lopez Dirk Nowitzki. Gonzales is an interesting one from last year. all right. What one of the lifelines is in laminating to eliminating just one eliminating just one rice? It's not worth it and the other one is Gimme some. Oh which is more you add to option. No no no I did they give me some is hit I give you Kenyon Martin. Okay yes give me some Mo- okay. Yes yeah it'll be interesting to see if this helps at all the hint for this is the most threes this. This big man had ever actually hit in one. Regular season was just one hundred and nine so so in the regular season he had one hundred and nine right and then he has the most in the playoffs. That's right for a big man in one. Playoff run yeah. That's it that's exactly right. I don't know that's Tom His. Yeah Yeah it makes you think sorry. Who did you? I would think every one of these guys would hit at least one hundred nine. Maybe not channing Frye and he had a bunch of options because there's a lot at cavs runs And somewhere in the deep recesses of my mind I see like channing Frye five or six three pointer game and against Atlanta or something so I'll go channing frye whatever number choice use that's incorrect that's incorrect. Now Oh yes the answer again you. You're saying in a loud you like. Oh maybe it happened last year. It did Marcus all the correct answer. Yeah two thousand eighteen nineteen playoffs with the wraps big Spain. There shot thirty four for eighty nine from distance in twenty four playoff games. Thirty eight percent from deep deep but I will say this was a tough one. Because channing Frye has had a playoff run where he's hit a ton same with Brook Lopez. Same Dirk Nowitzki. So this one was like marcus sort of just taking them out there with the total thirty. Four Yep Yep Yep all right so after six rounds Amir still stays at three points. Got One lifeline. Left that is the straight up. Eliminate Lifeline here. It is question number seven six ten point guard Ben. Simmons Women's often gets compared to hall of Famer Magic Johnson. But Hey at least magic. Shot and hit the occasional three pointer every once in a while. Yeah now Magic Johnson. He's never going to be mistaken for a splash row. But what was the highest number of three pointers magic ever made in one season. Was it a twenty two B fifty nine C. Eighty or a hundred nine the most threes magic ever ever made in one season. And you're a Lakers fan. I was a Lakers fan so I should know exactly what year Magic Johnson. Exactly exactly. How many threes whether it was eighty eight or one hundred and nine otherwise? I'm not a Lakers fan. That's point you definitely should know this one one. Oh nine seems to convenient because you just told me that mark assault hit one hundred and nine could magic Johnson hit the same amount of threes as Parkas arcus Saul. It doesn't stand twenty two seems pretty low but it is is my favorite number and then of course we have the middle ones which was something in the fifties and something yes. That's right fifty nine and eighty okay. I mean and you have you have one. I fly that you should. I mean if you're very confident you wouldn't use it but well you. If you narrow it down for me do you get to choose which one and eliminate well I already have it. I've I've I've decided that in advance so I'm not like like this was You know I decided that and made that decision weeks ago when I was starting to write these questions so I'm not going to be like okay persuaded by what you're talking louder just enough so I think I think he'd probably never hit at least one three a game. That seems pretty high. I for a point guard. Who was not known for his three point shooting and they have it narrowed down in my mind to twenty two fifty eighty nine okay And if I asked you to eliminate won't one and you could eliminate one hundred and nine and then I would get less points for guessing flipping a coin and doing exactly what I'll do anyway. Right right the counter. Of course to that is I could eliminate one of those ones you're thinking is and then maybe that either a gives you your answer being fairly confident about it or maybe like Whoa. Wow maybe I'm way off here. All right you know what three point shooting. It's about trusting your gut and letting it fly. That's why I know with great confidence. That's the most threes Irvin Magic Johnson hit single season is fifty fifty nine counted from way downtown lights out Swish Swish brick. That's incorrect yes. uh-huh I'm actually so happy in you talking out the How funny it would be if the answer was one hundred and nine fine because that was sort of the same number? I had said for Marcus all their earlier. As in the regular season that is the correct. Answer one hundred nine. But I'm happy you didn't allow unhappy unhappy. You didn't pick it because I realized I wrote down one hundred nine when in fact the answer is one hundred and six so then gone. Yeah well you know. What are the things that Travis? It would have been very embarrassing for him but you said fifty. Here's the funny part. I was going to eliminate fifty nine. I would've then guests twenty two hundred and six Magic Johnson in his third and final. MVP season he one hundred and sixty s on a career best thirty percent shooting from MM distance. Pretty good yeah. That's both both higher that I would have thought totally I. I was very shocked by this by this answer. So yes okay so unfortunately oh you got incorrect. I thought you were a Lakers fan turns out you're not JD. How many points? Marisol root for the nuggets Amir has a total of three points But Amir you have a chance to add some more points in our final speed round allow forty five seconds to give us as many correct. Not as possible. You're going to score one point for each one. You get ranked okay. There is something poetic about me finishing with three right. ooh Yeah but you know what I feel confident. You're going to get a few of these all right here. We go for the speed round a mirror. We're we're looking for as many answers as possible so rack up those points. Okay since two thousand five two thousand six season ten different players have lead the NBA in made threes. A if you guys have all obviously done it multiple times but how many of those ten guys can you name. I'm going to give you some hints. Let's start the clock go Steph Curry of course correct rally correct. Oh five oh six. Yes with Seattle Kevin Durant. No nobody I put a former teammate of Kevin Durant James Harden that's correct that's three couple Orlando players Rashard Lewis. That's right that's four Turkoglu no no just the occupants. Oh no Jason Kidd Jason as Terry very close very close there Also I'll give you another hint. This guy won a dunk contest He played for the Bob Cats back in the day. Jeez Louise please I have no idea jerry. It's not bad you got four. You Got Hardin you got curry. You Have Ray Allen the first one that was well done and you did With the help of a bit of a hint got Rashard Lewis. That was a nice poll. You you you missed out on Ryan Anderson. That was the other magic player I was looking for. Yeah Dorell Wright tough one with the warriors in two thousand ten eleven Aaron Brooks with the Rockets Jason. Richardson had won a dunk contest. Obviously did it with Charlotte way back in the day and then Raja Bell and Gilbert Arenas tied each other in Oh six oh seven but hey four not bad in the in the speed around there. Jd what's up. Bring them up to. Yeah that's great. That's a four speed around plus three in the regular round which brings you to a grand total of seven. You've just knocked lead down a spot on the leaderboard. I tasked with eight so you are number two on the leaderboard as of today. Well God I will take it I it was. It was a struggle struggle out there. I can't believe Raja Bell. Aaron Brooks lead the NBA in three point field goals made. It's a it's a different time back then wasn't it is wild. It is wild because over the last now seven years I guess it is. Yeah we've had hardened for two straight years and then curry the fi before that. Yeah it's like these superstar players. There was a time I guess. Reaction was a bit of a star but there was a good trump there where some randoms leading the league in three pointers made. Well that's pretty solid. You started slow you turn it on and four in the rapid fire hire foreign that speed round nothing to be ashamed about Amir. Thank you so much for coming on the show guys. Make sure you follow a mere on twitter at Jake and Amir and check. Check out all of his great podcasts on the head gum network I gotta ask you. I mean I know Jake. He wouldn't have gone any right. But what about Marty. How many would have got their now? L. Marty's Mardi singularly focused on the Portland Trailblazers. He wouldn't he wouldn't have gotten any of them maybe AB mookie blaylock. Murdy has always known a lot of mookie. Blaylock you're right here thank you so much. Thanks of course to our trustees score keeper. Jd We're going to see a back here here in Atlanta soon. Thanks to Kirby for just sitting right beside me a couple of beef aside me here still here still. Here's still enjoying huge. Thanks to basketball well reference for inspiring a few of the questions and thank you so much to Ben Simmons for finally taking and hitting a god Damn Mba three pointer. We'll catch you next time on. Who Trivia Trivia?

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1) Kobe's Memorial was Perfect!

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1) Kobe's Memorial was Perfect!

"There's crispy and then there's crispy dryer new and improved Tyson crispy chicken strips crispy just got crispy. Good Morning. Everybody Good Morning. Born in Training Kiki wary laker gear. Okay you've got a Laker pullover. Wait what happened to your accessories where we are with like flavor photos. We have a photo shoot. That will run on a lot of digital billboards throughout the south land. That's right and we're taking new photos today. Yes in so. I decided I was going to wear some laker gear. And you have a big rope chain. Would a big medallion says rest in peace twenty four from the time he was born to his passing? And I'M GONNA wear it around my neck as we take the photos and it'll be up for you know on our digital boards for quite some time. Yeah they're gonNA look good. I I I appreciate you. I think L Z. Telling me calling me last night said hey look we had an idea. We're going to put on some laker stuff or some of these pictures. I'm like that is a really good idea. What I didn't knows it GonNa launch me driving all over South Orange County looking for Laker gear ad. Nine o'clock last night that I did not know what's coming well so I was sitting with my mom. I we're watching jeopardy. I'm on fire by the way what is always on fire. I was like Oh who can be with all this information exactly so sitting there talking to keep your keys tells me that he's going to go. And he's looking for Laker sweatshop Blah Blah and I was like Because I've been aware my Kobe T. shirt which I brought and I told my mouth. Like where travelers prego where. But now let me give him a heads up. Let me give them a heads up keys. That's about like not so I call you up. What are you GonNa Wear Travis? But now he's GonNa wear my traditional work uniform which is more or less where eighty percent of the time and I said you know what I want to be a member of the team. I want to look like you guys. WanNa go and make sure that I'm link us. Well inch I want to look like a member of the team and I just didn't know that every single Laker Hoodie t shirt had been sold in all of Orange County. They're all gone. There's nothing left. It's pretty much everywhere. Not just an old see our thing here in the southland and southern California in general. You're going to get you know very Supply is is is small. Why did you make a face when you look at my shirt? Well no I just you say your typical workday. I can't take you speechless. It's what you're doing it the right way. 'cause you say that they got they they at UC Santa Barbara. Those classes that you could serve safe. He's welcomed. That's going to get them on before even apply. Hey let's go grab a Burger for lunch. What are you doing today ongoing? He shows up that way. I'll show up in t shirts shorts and he'll have buttoned-down took the slack. Took in its untucked. And I'M GONNA I'M GONNA loosen up the sleeves and we take the picture. He's the celebration of life they at Staples Center. And you know and we'll get into a lot of different people that spoke yesterday. I thought that everybody really almost without exception was absolutely fantastic yesterday. But let's say this again. The Lakers are amazing when it comes to putting on a show they are just amazing when it comes to striking the right tone having the right performance having the right hosts having the right speakers everything about that yesterday while incredibly emotional very sad at times was just beautiful and perfect. No it was in to know that they had a game in the daytime on Sunday. The kings and then have the turnaround in do all of that the next day. Get everything ready to go early. The morning and for to just go just perfect. If you didn't tell me if I didn't know and you just said hey they rehearsed. They did this. This is what happened okay. Cool but clearly. That wasn't the case but they worked perfect. I mean it just all. Everybody just spoke from Vanessa. Down TO M J. Two to Jack was crack. I mean it just was perfect. You couldn't you couldn't have joined up to being better at all nothing. Just it was amazing being in the space the spirit you know like during. I'm assuming what would be commercial breaks. I'm not sure what was happening with the broadcast but in between each speaker or performer. You could hear people to cry. Coby coby let just kept going and going and going and it was nothing beloved. Yeah the Channel. I was watching. It didn't have any commercial networks so I got a chance to see pretty much everything. Yeah they they had one little technical problem where the feed dropped out for a minute or two they got our backup and I. It was just great and obviously. It's the first time we've gotten here. Vanessa Bryant speak publicly Since the accident and I can't imagine the amount of emotion and sadness in difficulty in trying to deliver those remarks and she was absolutely fantastic. Here's Vanessa Bryant. Yesterday at the celebration of life for Kobe and John. He was thoughtful and wrote the best love. Letters and cards and G G had his wonderful ability to express your feelings into Paik paper and make you feel her love through her words. She was thoughtful like him. It was so easy to love. Everyone naturally gravitated towards them. The refunding happy silly and they loved life. They're so full of joy and adventure. I'm sure you guys have had to do it as well. But getting up there and having to deliver a eulogy like that is difficult under any circumstances but to have to do it for your daughter and your husband who you know in the prime of their lives in one of your own children the difficulty in that is unfathomable in the job that she did was amazing. It was and if you remember yesterday during our breaks we're were having a conversation about whether or not She would do that if she would speak in in in. Uh she certainly Shocked me because because I don't know that I would be able to if something were to happen to one of my kids in my wife without would be able to just I. I don't know why we get the the the energy to be able to do that. into just for the most part. Hold your composure and still be able to Just you know. That's that's who she is. That's I'm sure that's a lot of Kobe. Was just that type of person and when you connect with somebody for as long as she has the certain things. Just rub off on you were. They were together their entire lives. Basically I mean. They got together when she she sounded during a speech yesterday since she was seventeen and a half years old you know he was in the League for about five minutes when they met and all of a sudden. You know. This isn't just always your first girlfriend at your first boy. They spent their entire lives together. Which is why listening to the story about. The notebook was so perfect. Those of us who are fans of that movie of that Book know-how Romantic and tormented and just amazing. That story is right and for that to be sort of. The crux of which part of the relationship was built on? Daddy bought her the dress. That Ridley Rachel McAdams was the actress that she warned the scene which he would come back to what was that. Actor's name Gosling was gossiping. Yeah Yeah I mean he was. Just you know in the rain and all of that so so those are the new movie where she said that it was just like a hit me. I was like what am I some real stuff right there. It was and it was just so sad and then there were times that were just so funny. I mean there were times where the whole building is laughing and it would just carried so Jordan was incredible and he would. He walks up to the podium. He's already got tears streaming down his face and watching it on. Tell you like okay. I know what's coming from the Internet. We know what's there but but Mj beat him to the punch. We talked about everything and he was just trying to be a better person. Now he's got me. I'll have to look at another crime. Mean for that makes life and do this because I didn't want to see them for the next three or four years. That is what Kobe Bryant does to me it just it was perfect because it was a heavy moment and you see Michael Jordan who is the toughest ruthless competitor. You've ever seen since Koby right and then to watch him having the tears streaming down his face and then to drop that line in the middle of it. It was just absolutely perfect. It was really fun to say. That's the personal connection. Know that a lot of us didn't realize that they had. I mean you know you you just saw. Kobe's cou he knows them. He idolized if you wanted to kind of be. Be Mike the Second coming up but then when you start to remember in think about it as Jordan did about how Costa relationship was because those conversations at two and three and one in the morning those are conversations that we're privy to we like you know they in no way in the world calling may one two in the morning but yes he was so Mike. You know that that that there was something there like say when he lost. Kobe lost a piece of himself. So you gotTa know. The relationship is so deep that it will bring tears and a guy that you wouldn't even expect for tap into there's this narrative of the media and some fans put out there and then there's reality you know there's the reality that what we think is a rivalry what we think. Is You know a tense relationship whether it's shacking coby or the depth of the friendship. That Michael and Kobe Bryant. Kobe like we have all these concoctions of what the story line is. We may never know what the truth was. And we finally got a glimpse of the truth from Jordan about relationship. You have with Kobe which I thought which is absolutely amazing. I remember telling you guys a story that I was playing tennis with Jason Collins. Who used to play in the NBA and Jason told me that? Kobe was taking lessons down a new Ford and that he was coming. You are oh you'll figure it out. Figure it out to sea route. So that story because suzy did I go. Oh Yeah Jason was coming. I will have more moments from yesterday's celebration of life at Staples Center just a fantastic day of beautiful day very sad days. Well Doc rivers talked about how it could be a catharsis for the entire league to kind of take that next step forward. The next step for the Lakers comes up tonight. Zaylon Williamson is in the building and some real. We're ends as well. We'll get into that next in the morning show on seven ten. Espn YOU'RE GONNA make your announcement here key the urge you're going to launch a gubernatorial campaign for California run for governor. A I'm his press Kerry to go through you. Yes having announcement at its proper time right now. Keyshawn Johnson show exactly exactly. You have been around awhile. Haven't I have I guess so? I got the language down Zairean. And the Pelicans up next for the Lakers tonight here at Staples Center and the Lakers are playing good basketball again. They finally got that win against you know quote unquote one of those teams. They mean the Celtics on Sunday afternoon. They've won five in a row. They're playing really good basketball again. Zion and the Pelicans are interesting because Zion is interesting. Because there are some former Lakers on that team Some former very high draft picks from the Lakers on the team. But this does not feel like a game that the Lakers can have a ton of trouble with on the court. No I don't think so. I think the interesting being obviously is going to be Zion but also the other guys that was here. What does the Ingraham look like? What is ball? Look like? Where's hard like just where? Where are the players that we shipped off to New Orleans to get a D The story line. Obviously it's going to be on versus Lebron now what that is. I don't know this is not. This is not the same situation to me as when Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. I faced off. This is not one of those deals as much as we want to try to put some yeast on it in hyping up. It's just not that well Zion though is interesting. I. It's Not Lebron. So let's just start with that because really we haven't seen anybody. That is Lebron since lebrons come here as far as the ATTENTION BUT ZION. At least is in the neighborhood that we knew. Put it this way. We knew WHO Zion Williamson was before he played one second of college basketball. And not. Just if you're one of those guys that follows college recruiting that. If you're just a casual sports fan you'd heard the name Zion Williamson before. He got to Duke when he was at Duke. He got all the attention. The shoe blowout obviously put it to a whole `nother level but it just seems that we're we're really invested in Zion Williamson to a degree that we haven't seen in rookie player in a very long time. Well he comes with a lot of different things. Though right he comes with the high school accolades a slam dunk in the youtube following. All that sort of stuff right. That's one he comes with. The duties duties are everywhere. You go to Duke. You play you you go into the NBA so follows. That didn't have the shoe blowout right show. Then he comes he gonna stay as he died but then on top of that he's a number one overall pick then the final nail is his name. Zion not a huge part of it. Zaia is that even real MS names. Not What is it? What Day rising. You No Kyrie ways. He's nine. He's got a minor in in our county. Whatever turn ship but whatever to think about it what if I was sitting up here and I was Joseph. Wouldn't feel right right. Kesha Feel Zion when you when you grab that and you package all that up and then you look at the ducks in the job. Number one overall pick is missing for a couple of weeks there and then all of a sudden he comes back and they start to connor. Cook a little bit. Your attention is focusing on how to just two ways built. Well first and foremost to me is that there's been a conscious choice in my opinion by us as a network to put the attention on here. We've done that with other players in the past where there's Tibo whether it's Johnny Manziel. Once we decide that one. Oh we go all in. So we're part of the narrative dictation if you will because we've made a choice whether because of his player because of other factors that this is going to be somewhere we hang our hat on for a while so to me. That's I because if we want it Ovechkin to be the stuff then. We are broadcasting all of the hockey. And we'll watch that though. That would be a waste of dollars. No no no no no no no no you missing. What I'm saying once we decide that you're going to watch it then. You won't have no choice but to see it. It's like a Bloomberg ad. You're going to see you can't avoid. Avoid it so to me. That's first and then everything else that you guys talking about even submitted it ends what it is. I think all I'm yes that. Espn TNT swimming beside me. It's also the fact that he was six and nearly three hundred pounds can Jim. It's the way that you look at. You like what the Hell is that you know. I haven't seen that in a long time. A guy that big that strong powerful that can move like that. Because he's just he's different than all these these. Charles yeah he he's different he see Barclay. Wasn't that big though Barclay where he was Barkley. He didn't call he wasn't called around mile has been strap he think he was bigger than a lot of guys that came from college. Pros Barkley was but Barkley was not Zionist. Just he's he's like super thick like he's just he's not fat he's not he's not a big Fan. I'll look at him. He's he's obviously absolutely jacked very very strong guy. Very you know covered with but there's also a layer of non-muslim in there too that we run down court. I don't seem shaken. No No. He's not Oliver Miller. He's not he's not that he's not tractor trailer. Who's running up and down jiggling all over? It's that but when you talk about Zion. Zion worth thirty pounds lighter. He would look far different. But if he also wouldn't look like a like Brandon Ingram if you took thirty pounds off if you took thirty pounds off of forty or whatever it is he may not be player that he is right now certain just because we look at it and you look at it and go oh man. He's really big. He's the dude first of all six seven and a half six eight. No I mean that's when they got a measure that yeah but we know what happened. We know the truth. He's not six five. He's probably closer to six five nine six eight. Charleston listening to six six months upon a time we were just. We need to stop that but I think when you look at Zaino. His ability his explosiveness all those sorts of things. We put the ball on the floor. His vertical his vertical leaping ability underneath the rim is second to none. I mean it's just it's ridiculous. He's he's explosive he's a hell of a player and of Josh's team can't figure it out they're GONNA slip out of the spot and if they slip out as spot even of New Orleans doesn't get in. He's more equal footing when it comes. Zaia and voting. I think as long as his team makes post-season he's probably GONNA win. But if he slips out and New Orleans supplants them or doesn't make it either then all of a sudden it's like going well. Neither one may diplo season so you can get into some tricky things here. Looking at small SAM's Memphis cod absolutely blown out last night by the clippers. They are in the eighth spot right now. There are five and five in their last ten but they've also lost three in a row. New Orleans is seven and three in their last ten has won two in a row and they've closed their only three games out of that eighth spot. Now that's more that's a bigger lead than it. Sounds like three feels like. Oh that could go away in a week. It could but it almost never does it. It's GONNA take some time but if all of a sudden you're talking about these two guys winning roughly the same amount of games and the hype machine that we've been talking about the SPN the TNT. Everybody wants to get this. It's GonNa Happen. Only if only if for some reason Joh- decides to have lackluster performances. Down the stretch. He's he's he's far out in front. He's far on front you. You're not gonNA catch him at this point even if they did drop out of the the other team took over as long as he's continuing to play will he'll get the now. Let's say they both went thirty eight thirty nine games. They're both under five hundred. They may be one of them sneaks into the playoffs in the eighth spot but maybe neither one of them get in. They're both about the same John. Moran is having a better season just because he's played in more games and done more things that hype things going to put it over the top and we all ignore the fact that Zion actually play with an NBA all star Brandon Ingram side next to zero and that drew holiday nor the fact that Zion is actually in a better team. You're asking for context context with you silly. Mookie not has to be asked. Is this the greatest dodger lineup of all time? That's coming up next in the morning. Show on seven ten. Espn GEICO presents left brain versus right brain after much deliberation. 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We gotta have that beer into your seat before. Because they stop at the end of the seventh inning. Yeah kanter come on now. You're not sure like some of your loss and I noticed doesn't make any sense at all but for some reason because of the Houston cheating scandal. I just think everybody's better a little bit of wind. Just Houston that was knocking him. I know I know I'm just saying it's all of looking just go. Oh everything's better now 'cause they were cheating gotten to the point where he started trying to figure out what was wrong with them. They just they didn't. They stole signs. They didn't have him drop five miles an hour fast ball. They didn't make that bulk. God we don't talk to is so if they power on with commission investigating here. Here's the RUB though. Maybe it doesn't matter at all. Maybe it's going to become far less important. Because we saw McKee batch yesterday get his first couple of hits as a dodger. He's two for three in a spring training. Tie Against the White Sox. So whatever he mookie Betts is really good. Here is what the dodgers did. Last year. They were number one in the National League in runs. They were number one in the National League in home runs. They were number one in the National League. In slugging percentage number one and on base percentage number two. Excuse me no. Ps number two and on base percentage number four doubles and number seven in hits. Okay this they were already at the top of virtually all the and they just added the second best player in baseball. And you gotta think when you when you already have a team that won one hundred six games. It was the best offensive team in the League to begin with. And oh by the way here's a F- a a an MVP very recent MVP. Who's at the peak of his powers? This is the best offensive line. They've ever run out on that field it and it certainly Speaks to it if you look at what? Mckie was able to do obviously in Spring Training. But it just goes to show you that based off last year. He's back to where you left off Eh. Starting out out the gate doing some things that you envision. He will be doing the dodger uniform when he made the trade for now. My concern is not the regular season as much as his postseason. That's where the dodgers to me have. Struggled the most with their big bats with the big pitching arms. Have been in the postseason. Now we can talk about the Astros and their little cheating deal because that's GonNa always come up when even when they didn't play those teams. We can't say that the nats cheated them. We can't say certain teams that they lost to based on guys chopping wood. Now you put this guy in in the leadoff spot. You've got pitch around. If you decide you're GONNA pitch around him in the lead by then there's somebody else sitting there and you decide to pitch around him to somebody else said Near. That's the key to him being in the lineup. Look use said it. It's not like the nats ripped him off and they didn't but who else have they lost to. That wasn't at least have an asterisk next to it right. They beaten the braves. Beat the brewers a couple of times. They've beaten the everybody. There is to beat except for the Red Sox in the Astros who both cheated. We know that to be true. And by the way they had a hiccup against the Washington nationals. Who who were a really good team who ended up to your point key. You go bets bellinger and pollock or whoever. You'RE GONNA put in left Field Kiki on any given night Chris Taylor on one night. If Jack Peterson is still here. By the time the regular season starts. It's none of these guys that I just read. Those numbers are gone. They're all still here so now. You add mookie Betts to into your point. Yes they need to do more in the postseason but the odds of all think about it who was hot in the postseason. Right as Max Muncie was their best guy and then another guy here or there but they didn't have now sitting yet another guy. It's GonNa take some pressure off all of these other guys. There is not a soft spot. Where okay if I can just get past the four th guy the guy? I've got three guys in a row. I can go right through no you. Don't you have to pitch to all eight of these guys every single night? That's an incredibly difficult thing. Maybe pitcher leaving give good at hit. What do you guys think is the better injection of adrenaline confidence? Knowing that you were cheated and then you didn't get beaten or knowing now all of a sudden you. Mookie beds. Things happen at the same time in terms of weight distribution. Where do you go with the with the sixty forty? It's the deal okay? Because you can't go back and say well we got cheated so therefore that's the reason we didn't win. I mean I get it. I understand that that's the that's what's out there on the air. But let's say for instance that they didn't cheat you and you just had you just had a bad night or two or whatever. The case may be then you will lose those games regardless. I don't WANNA I don't want to put their season in twenty seventeen all on cheating cheating cheating cheating cheating I do. I don't know but you do gotta move forward from Near. You cannot continue to sit there in much like the skipper sale this week. No we cannot sit there and say live on live on what happened in twenty seven. I'd said in terms of confident. Yeah no I I can't disagree more I. I'm not saying that you sit there. And you wallow in what happened right but what the burden that was removed from them with this whole thing. I think is almost immeasurable. The advantage that the Astros have is impossible to articulate. It would. It's like cheating at cards. You get to look at the other guys go. You're never gonNA lose a hand. Let me see if I know what you have either better. Don't you're never GONNA get me? That's the advantage that they had to use the Cardinal. Giulio chance I have is if I get a royal flush that's it. That's the only thing that I have. So we're working this really narrow thing. Mookie Betts is a huge bonus but just for the confidence perspective. Now I didn't get beat. I got ripped off and again. No Travis you go back to Kenley Jansen. They didn't take six seven miles off his cutter. No didn't do that so my point. That is mookie. Gives you more confident then feeling like knowing that you got cheated out of something? You don't get your confidence back because of that. Let's try very quick one on the sprint people's hotline La and Johnny Johnny on the morning show. What's going on? Hey Good morning I think it's a great transition. I want to speak on what you guys are talking to banks. And the losing his his Lou. Losing seven miles an hour on his cutter in in any of his bitches reading on the argument that that the astro sheeting did have an impact in in terms of how it new velocity is. Because when you're in high pressure situations are bullpen was dominating twenty seventeen. He hasn't really been right since twenty. Seventeen he has to throw more pitches later in the year. High pressure situations when you're extending the game because you'd know exactly what's coming. You know you look at that that game. I think it was game five loss. Thirteen at twelve. There's plenty of opportunities to wrap that up. And now there's less pitches that he has to make on the game to game basis when you're extending at the end of that season in has to have an impact on you know coming into twenty eighteen twenty nineteen because his body just wasn't used to it. I don't think his body has adapted to you look at Brandon Morrow as well it was really dominant force twenty. Seventeen we've got to the cubs. He was a shell of himself. And so when you're you're putting that fighting in that fiscal capacity like that and you're exerting over zoning yourself I think that cheating does have an impact on the tentacles on that cheating scandal. Go absolutely everywhere. Thanks Johnny all right. Get the most out of your tax refund and get a great phone stop by sprint store today and learn how you can get a Samsung Galaxy S. Ten FOR AN AMAZING DEAL. You'll get a network built for unlimited and a great price at sprint visit your local sprint stores sprint dot com or call eight hundred sprint one to learn more restrictions do apply. Z's top ten coming up next. I don't know about that on the morning. Show on seven ten. Espn all right. It is Tuesday which means you are up. L. Excited to see what you got this week. Yeah he's faking it. I'm genuinely hooks whereas we know Williamson is coming into town. Yes he's all the buzz all the rage and if there's a good possibility that he can take the rookie of the year award away from John Moran in large part. Because he's such cultural touchdown. He moves the needle told you so. I put together my top. Ten list of the most influential. Nba Rookies of the year Yes this is very very aggressive. Coming in at number ten Willis Reed from New York. Why because it's been thirty years since he came out the tunnel and nonetheless nevertheless we know exactly what that moment means. We know exactly what the if using an analogy. You know exactly what it means. I can't quote a stat. He didn't even play the whole game. L Z. He did not only play not the whole game. He played like four minutes vacuuming barely played at all. That's one of the greatest myths of all time Pierce Wheelchair coming in number nine Wilk Chamberlain. Now he's influential for two reasons. She knows but we're going to keep it clean. Go on as possible. Yeah I mean not just was he like in our dominant NBA player. But he was he understood right away that this was an entertainment business and he was a great entertainer. That's the reason why he did the movies. That's the reason why he understood. You know what the Harlem globetrotters where I mean? He was shocked before shack. In a in a lot of ways with both the dominance while also being gentle giant and then there's the other stuff readers book coming in at Number Eight. Is Dave Bain? Dave Bagel had to go old school. Because they've being as far as I can tell was the first one to go from the NBA. Take Money Go. I'm about to make some business and create. Nba Jot Creator. Like one was thinking like that about particularly the NBA back. Then for reasons. You know the drug problems and BLAH BLAH BLAH. But Dave be took his money built a business after the NBA and then became there so he was just like you put a lot on his plate. Not Bad number. Seven speaking of politics and Blah Blah Blah Rick Berry. A lot of people don't know Rick. Perry was very influential. End The current state of free agency. He left the NBA because Aba offer more money. Yes and that got into a lot of legal Schmeichel Beagle stuff so in addition to having one thousand nine kids while became NBA players which is influential. Solve one the other night either. Jv Yeah there you go love J. B. and a distance you're having tons and tons of NCWA ABA NBA records his very presence in terms of pushing what it means to be an athlete who controls my future really influenced the way that we look at sports in general today him debate cracking back in the day. Do we ever see another person? Shoot their free throws underhanded like because he was like ninety three percents. I mean it works. It works it works it works. Ego is a powerful thing. Yeah could save a lot of careers does it doesn't go out and it does not go out number six. You Know Chuck Allen Iverson Man Logo here. No you're talking about six chamberlain. I do your deal. I mean Alan Iverson was the bridge right. He was the bridge between safe and family friendly. Nba Yes the blue when you go out white for right during the day blue during night blues when you're things I do is from a cultural standpoint back in that day so many people that did WANNA look dress axiom be like and then all of a sudden you fast forward to even where we are today those same people in those same communities that didn't want to act like cb all it did duplicating. Yeah it's unbelievable it. I laugh at it every day. Number five his name was lew alcindor. We know him best screen ability bar the cap the CAP. I mean first of all if you got patriots with with Ali and Dr King you win. That's US I am Bruce. Lee and Bruce Lee movies though nine but I mean come on. He was flying an airplane. Yes he was saying was not Captain Murdoch or whatever it was you talking about writing books some of being on jeopardy you talking about being silly movies you talking about still having the record for most points scored you talking about the rain. Making Milwaukee relevant haven't won since the look on US number four Lebron James who now. He's actually still playing obviously but because he's been around for so long. I feel comfortable saying his coach. Influence is going to last far beyond his playing days whether it's his school whether it's his business and companies in terms of content creation where the records that he already has and continue to build on. He's probably going to supplant LEW ALCINDOR. Kareem abdul-jabbar on top of that list and still plan a whole bunch of other point guards and their sysytem. Well Lebron's one of those guys and there's a handful of these there's the NBA pre imposed chamberlain. There's the NBA Pre and post magic and bird. There's the NBA pre imposed Michael Jordan and then it's the NBA Pre and Post Lebron James. He's one of those. Yes yes absolutely number three Shaquille O'Neal I mean diesel. I forgot Plane alone time. Yeah he is just as relevant today as he works today. He was drafted. And you can look at alley more. So now named the commercials where is because big it resonates with the youth today along with his generation alone with generations before you know so he even young guys. Vance and them. They know who he is. It's like Vanessa a SEC. And he got as loud as an applause as anyone in that space Michael Jordan yesterday in staples got loud ovation but I thought when shack was coming up. They were trying to tell the roof off so again. The the diesel the diesel plus the music and all of that number two Larry Bird Without Larry. Bird there is no Magic Johnson. Fo- without no magic Johnson foe. There might not be an NBA. I'm just GONNA keep an elite was teetering teetering in those two dude saved it and neither one of those guys are those guys without the other exactly exactly and not for nothing all the other stuff that ties to Boston versus. La American born white player verts and American born black player. The fact that the best player in the League wasn't American born white player from a number of years made it safe for travel to come from the and watched him play. Fritsch LICK INDIANA. Yeah Yeah it's not. It's as far as I know in Indiana beyond that I can help you. Yeah plus you go back and look at his youtube clips. He's dude and you can't say he was looking toward era. No very very. Oh yes I obviously being here being from here being a Laker fan magic was my favorite Laker of all time. Larry Bird was one of the most fun players to hate in the history of sports because he was that. Good that you you had to give it up to him even though you hate it is no at all of them. I like none of them. He was the only one that I mess with. He was cold and I like the fact that he was putting the white guy on me. Or that's disrespectful. He would acknowledge ratio aspect to what he was doing and then number one is obvious. I mean you heard it yesterday. M J take a step up to the stage. The whole place. Rubs Jordan played in twenty years or something like that. We still buy shoes. What are you GONNA do? He set the model. He was the influence for Kobe. He was the beacon that once it was magic and bird and then once Michael showed up he helped make an international. So it's hard to have a list like this and not recognized. Jordan is the most influential NBA rookie of time. All right. So you're going to hear from Michael. Jordan spoke at Kobe celebration of life. You're gonNA hear from Shaquille O'Neal as well who is absolutely fantastic yesterday. A very very emotional day. Our thoughts and the celebration of life going on at Staples Center. Yes sir that's coming up next on the morning show on seven ten ESPN.

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