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Eric McCormack The Andromeda Strain

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Eric McCormack The Andromeda Strain

"Hi this is jamie bamber. And you're listening to sifi talk. Hi this is tony tomato. This edition of sci-fi talk features audio press conference with actor. Eric mccormack who plays the pivotal role. Jack nash and the new television adaptation of the andromeda strain. This is being done in the mini series. Form which airs on the anger network. Starting may twenty six. We'll get to the press conference in just a moment just like to remind all complete the audience survey at sci fi talk dot com. Pronin inscription of this podcast. This really helps me to attract new sponsors to the show. Keep us going if you do that. And submit your email address. I'll be happy to send you a free. Dvd as a token of my appreciation. Eric mccormack shirley has an impressive resume appearing in many television series and movies. He's appeared in lonesome. Dove the outlaw years and nineteen ninety eight. he began the role that would hurt him five golden globe. Nominations an emmy for leading actor in a comedy. As will truman and willingboro he also made his broadway debut in the title role in the music. Man in two thousand one and returned to the new york stage auto. Six for neela butte. Some girls eric recently starred in the independent film alien trespass and also shocked truth in advertising pilot for tnt. Now let's listen to the press conference at yours. Truly joined for actor. Eric mccormack previewing. The andromeda strain question is from an intangible with the boston herald and your line is open. Now you doing. The call browser seems more science fiction than this movie. I wanted to ask you a little bit about. What was it about this part that spoke to you and and Will and grace thought thought about getting the new parts take on In what got this into. Well i mean i definitely consciously took some time off to try some of the things. I had a production company for a while we produced a show bring international for lifetime which had a minor cult following and Producer pilots for for tnt. So i was trying my hand at other things but i think it was actively not being active hoping that that that role would come along that was very not will truman and that that i have some fun with this. This really just totally spoke to that. It's i love. I love the script. I don't think it's a really smart smart update really current and i just loved it. We're in the midst of all these people talking scientific jargon and medical jargon and was this sort of very flawed Deeply sort of sardonic reporter with cocaine addiction. And i thought well that sounds about as far from tremendous. I can get so i feel right. Thank you our next question from tony toledo with five talk. Your line is open. Mr maccormick are you very well had seen the original dramas train at all or read the book. I read the book i had seen originally ago. But i was too i was. I was too young. Probably ten to I think that the The tenor of the times and the nature of this Draft script is so different. It was not in any way kind of word for word remake. It was a complete reimagining for for two thousand eight. And i think i think that's what i'm really proud of. I think really really works And it's exciting. I think it's a really. I think the original is a little bit cerebral it's a little bit slow and very much about the science. This is a much more of an action film. Guys are gonna love this It's a real guy is sort of the. There's almost a little bourne identity to to the feel of this which is hard to believe when you hear andromeda strain but it does have that kind of disaster movie. I a movie kind of excitement to it. I think the the major differences that it was very much science fiction at the time. And i think now it's a little closer decide fact. I think once you have guys with debris getting on international flights and you have countries like china denying the sars outbreak the concept of government and the military covering up something like this and of course with the constant potential biochemical warfare It's do something about this. It felt like it could absolutely be happening And so i think it is. I think the differences are gonna make it Much more exciting. This isn't just a remake by any means. I think this is a complete reimagining of of what Something like this would be like if it really happened. Two thousand eight. Thank you our next question. From rick bentley with the fresno be and your line is open now and that could do have anybody in mind playing that television reporter for i. Actually i mean to me. He wanted to give him the kind of the seriousness of of anderson cooper when he first broke out. But i also think this guy has a geraldo rivera side too. I think that's an station list. And and i threw a little hunter thompson in there as well but they had a lovechild. That'd be a day. Yes thanks. Thanks our next from david. Martindale with hearst paper. Your line is open now higher We've talked before. I did a story on you for biography magazine years ago. I remember it very well. Thank call anyway. I felt the movie last week. I enjoyed it Like you were saying story. Seen so timely. I remember when tony lewis started playing monk very phobic about just about every kind of germ there is and we all laughed at. Hell ought is now. We're gonna time with tainted spinach and the grocery stores and fast food and bird-flu and mad cow. I don't think he's crazy anymore. No exactly yeah also Take a quick glance. The rest of the names topping this cast. And did you ever feel like you're making a completely different movie from them. Yeah i mean it is very much three films There is the the doctors locked away on underneath the ground trying to solve this problem. There's sort of the military political side of it which i think makes it very very interesting very current and look very espionage in my little movie running through the desert trying to get word to somebody. I'm like i'm like chicken little trying to tell everyone that the sky is falling. But i mean. I i like i mean i love that because because i think that is the what they call the fourth estate. It's this there is the the media nowadays is you couldn't make you couldn't remake story without some media character. We are so reliant on twenty four hour news stations And constant information and information that we trust whereas in the old days we had We had three anchorman and we had to rely that they were gonna tell us everything and we now know they didn't. Now you know the moment something happens Somebody's telling you. And the fact that uh jack. Nash is the only chance humanity has ever hearing about. This is sad but excited. It's disturbing right. Let's that we never really know how you'll react. A major crisis In real life. I'm sure you've been in smaller scale panic situations before whether it's an earthquake or an accident or whatever how did you hold up Do you your eye on the ball or win. The earthquake comes there. You standing outside the curled up in a ball. An interesting question i think. I don't think i'd do link jack nash. I don't think i'd immediately tear my shirt off but I think that I think having a child changes all of that. I mean any fears. I used to have. We all nightmares where we have feet of clay emergency situation and i now know that That if anything were to happen with my child childhood room. I would act immediately but if you know if there was an earthquake in los angeles and he was in school. I mean i. I drive like a son of a bitch across town. I mean i think something up that protective part of your kin. So i'd like to think that it an emergency. I'd be i'd be prepared and last thing for me. How how weirder how. How much does out phobic are you if at all about germs and contagion Did this movie and in fact you're thinking in any way you know. I think i am a typical of of sort of the other side. You know someone else. Talking to the monk character i. I tend to be extremely trusting. I just sort of have the feeling that the good people at the supermarket probably watched that lettuce. I'm sure it's And i probably shouldn't. I probably should've let the movie effect before and not just a movie but the the news everything it's It is a world where the next germ could be a killer and then every disease the worst of course being cantered just seems to mutate and a constant basis. So i will say i am washing my hands more. Somebody telling me one was really disturbing. He said. Do they actually have somebody who washes the menus in restaurants. That's going. Oh my god wants you to order your meal. I then wash your hands. I think that should be the got anyway. Thanks so much. Thank you sci-fi talks coverage of the press conference with every mccormack on andromeda strain will continue in a moment you're on farscape. You're listening to this. I thought this is ben. Browder from farscape. You're listening to by talk. Thank you are an extra from andrew ryan with global mail. Your lines open eric. Hi hi andrew. How are you. How are you good. Great job in the movie. Thanks man very good. I mean there's a lot of action. Obviously i mean for you. I think even more so than the other characters. I mean how big i mean. How stressful after you. 'cause you're running the desert or you know it was. It was nice to be macho again. The the much will truman ever got was beating eggs. So i think this is a nice. I love that does it stuff. I mean there's been like a new thing you'd be doing. I mean that's where all the big front repellents recap all the all. The big action are the ones that are grabbing. Well you know your lips still here. I i'd love that. I mean. I think time during the shooting of this thought jacking. That sounds like a tv show. You know what i mean. He just he had the kind of dc episode of a bitch. And you'll use going to get story one way or the other sort of a coward but he ends up finding his metal so I i would love to do more that. Certainly that'll help blowing up. The helicopter and all that stuff from jack goes through a lot of growth. I mean to stop the app. I won't give it away from where you start at. The beginning is considered rehab to like where he ends up at the end of the movies that as beautiful air. Yeah totally. I mean i think you know any any actual tell you that no matter. How much fun something is there has to be some kind of the only you rarely get it with the villain with a guy like i mean. Nowadays most people Most heroes on television shows are are flawed because we retired the white hat. When i love with this guy isn't he. He's gonna get his story beginning but he's gonna get a story for selfish rates for the glory. He's jack nash. And by the end he's gonna get that story out to say people and that is that's really nice. Gross i'm guessing. Part of the movie was filmed canada. Just because they're flatman other actors. Yes i recognize but it'd be where were you. What did you look. I was a little vancouver mostly of a five hours north ashcroft and cache creek which i even have lived in vancouver for years. I didn't realize how much of a desert territory we have up there. I mean it really passing for for desert america. So wow it sure looks like that's great. Well thanks very much air. Nice to hear from toronto. Boy thank thank you our next from acquaintance johnson was saying. Cast your say hi eric. How are you excellent. thank you good. He's starts out. And sort of self tanner guy and in a way this movie also or is this remaking train sort of great for all survivors of all that disaster is that we're having you know. Well i mean it's that's what's really bizarre that it's airing weeks now. I've i've kind of just like most of the country slack jawed the first four or five stories on the national news our oldest astor's you know and in different countries and in each case a big part of the story is how the government reacts slow. How not at all in the case of miramar. So i just couldn't be more timely ca mean just saying you're right about one hundred and like manoir like covering up the doctor so here you are sort of like there is a conspiracy on this one. Yeah exactly i mean Give too much away. But i mean that's what what happened to the pieces is. Is the government doing what what china did with sars years ago is is just is denial. Denial blame it on someone else and and there. We are at home just watching the news hoping that. Somebody's telling us the truth. I'm also i guess that's the That's the function of disaster movies to make us all feel. I'll feel united right. Yeah absolutely. I mean i this. This reminded me a little of the stand. The stephen king star which is one of my favorite books that sense of when a when everything's falling apart and you simply you simply have to come together and it's always the opposite spent for the project mash in the second half thing as we're they were creating it from scratch. There's nothing like this in the novel. they were trying to figure out who is it that he's gonna meet in the desert and initially i was like four kids real smoking dope or something and then it became a mother mother with her very young child. We're just trying to find the thing that most Most exciting and also little sexy so we ended up in the end. It was just that the one girl but There was a key moment where she tempts him but his own demons and he overcomes that. So i think i think the story. It's so separate from what everybody else doing part too. But it's a it's a really great road. Thanks our next question from ashley dean with top culture madness. Your line is open. thanks for talking to me. i actually. I was wondering if you had read michael books research or did he want to approach the script with fresh. I yeah i didn't do. I didn't do a lot of Of crichton reading beforehand. It very very close to start shoot so it was more i just i think was exciting was that i thought the script was already really good. there wasn't a sense of of going into it and think well i'll fix that on the day. I mean it was really strong am and the directors is great. I knew i just knew. Visually this thing's gonna look like a feature and And the special effects we're going to be great for not just for tv. Until i think this looks great on the big screen. So i just let i let the let the work speak for itself. More sci fi taught so stay tuned. Back on sci fi talk. I'm tony to lauder related arts and asher serta like doing i think for me Used to as actors playing doctors and lawyers and cops and really. I mean there's not that much we have in common with them. Their works to their workers so much more dangerous important and complicated and whereas with nash. I mean being someone that is front of the camera being some of that. I mean with slightly different gene. And i rather than an actor might have been an camera reporter so i definitely related to to him to. What i liked is that i was saying before. I mean i think he's on camera for the glory. I think he's he's a selfish pompous ass. A little bit that In that geraldo rivera away. But i think he also through the story discovers his That there was another reason that he became a journalist in the first place. The more reasons. I was also wondering if you had a favorite part of filming it. No matter funny moment Well probably i i. Certainly i loved the The stunt stuff when the when the helicopter went down there was a stunt guy involved in some of it. But i got to leap out of the helicopter. Running have explode get to do a lot of that. I want to grow so yeah but that was probably one of my favorite days. And there's just a speech that i have in the second act i've been wandering the desert and i fall on my knees and pray to god that it just lets me through this one. I'll never snort coke again and there's probably my favorite piece of writing. That's a pretty big deal to me to our next question from tony. Tomato sifi talk. Your line is open. How did like your past experiences working. I like the outer limits and highland or even the lost world. kind of. Help you in doing this kind of scifi project. Oddly i have ended up a lot of scifi over the years And in fact between and drama and truth and everything. I did another thing which i think your readers will like it when it eventually hits the ground running called trespass gosh to Fifties fi i know it feels like it. My wife is a huge science fiction fan. There's lot of reading of sci-fi fantasy. So i feel like while. It's not exactly my domain. It's a world. I've lived in a lot. So i i think i understand the audience a little bit and can you also tell us about your project. Imperfect union union was a A pilot that. I made it to producer Four t and t. It did not get picked up but it did. Star zachary levi. Who has gone on to fame chuck. So i i must say i discovered him. I'm just saying. I knew and then just one last thing. What about What you wish for where you're producing directing and writing it I'm sorry what you wish for is is an ongoing project that may eventually happen It's a romantic comedy feature that. I hope to direct. It's been around for about five years now but it's It's we're just waiting to find the right time. And the right to the right cast and we got a couple of producers. That are interested in doing it but it doesn't happen yet. Well thank you mcintyre with monsters and critics your life open. Hey thanks for taking our calls. And i'm rob him. I'm late to the party. So if i've been asked i apologize Head time i noticed that You got a lot of cool gadgets to play with your character and also kind of between the visual effects. You guys had some really interesting. Prop and i was wondering what dean eyler. Stand your problem master who your character Trying to think of gadgets. I had i mostly. I mostly have my cell phone and that was the other guys. Everybody got the cool gadgets really. They didn't with their an iphone. You had or some sort of something iphone edition that but i mean a lot of what was on it of course was sort of put in after the fact that I mean definitely the phone. The whole phone thing is crucial. Because the only real connection. I have to benjamin bratt. We're supposed to be central coast oregon this thing and yet we only have one major seem together and that's over the phone and the iphone does play. It's a character like new york. He didn't have a lot of gadgets. he didn't have. I did not have a lot of gadgets. I had A flak jacket three days. Girls did What was the most challenging scene for you to pull off on physically in this series There were a few. I mean i. I was talking before you got on about The the helicopter explosion and jumping running indicting alive stuff. There was also Chasing which. I'm driving i want to get the ending away. But i'm driving rather faster the desert and that was pretty cool because i do all that myself and never. I'm given permission to drive really fast. Were there any injuries sustained in the making of android strain for you or did you come on skates from the whole experience. I think i came on fence game. They would have been a slight bruise. If i threw myself on the ground past time but but no it wasn't it wasn't too strenuous that way. More most importantly did you get a chance to go through the slum. Oh car wash that they decontaminate people or the phone sixteen and everything and they're kind of twirled around profiling left that to the bed into the melon krista to get naked okay. Great thanks so much for your time. Thank you andrew ryan with globe and mail your lines. Open ohi eric again. Welcome back. And i've got to ask you before. I know you're a film buff. You love movies for you. Was there something extra about this. Because it's you know. Ridley scott and tony. Scott like yeah. That was Quite a pedigree. I went into it knowing that. I'm probably not going to beat them. Because they're executive producers. They got other things going on but when it was finished We saw a cut it on a big screen kind of a post production facility. I said the producers on my dad is coming down tomorrow. Would you guys can show this to them. We do another screening and they said sure at the office like drove my dad to hollywood and to the car and they're standing in front of scott. Free productions was ridley just having a breath of fresh air. And i walked up. I don't think with a cliche but at the time. I don't think he recognized me for a minute so we said hello. We went and sat down and all of a sudden someone came up and really wants to talk to you. They came up and he was very few tiven. Lovely and i was able to introduce my dad wanting to watch the screening and Assistant came in with a bottle of wine and a couple of glasses and said this is from ridley. I the watch reading of this with the bottle of wine. Courtesy ridley scott which is pretty neat because get much better. It does not aid in One more question. I mean for you. Was there ever a time. Because i know you both high school went to you. Went to ryerson. I believe yes but it was every time that you like considered becoming tv reporter or going into that side of the business. Or i don't know that. I ever considered it. But i've always i mean one of the things. I love doing it as movie. It's a. It's a short bit. But i get to do the kind of the interview i mean w and then i turned. Speak to the camera and i always wanted to sign. The sign off is my favorite thing. You know they're cormac. Cbs news or whatever. Just love doing that particularly. I always wanted to play an english journalist. I think i've always loved the way that everything goes up at the end of a sentence have a before it goes down. It is different different. Great thanks very much eric. Thanks take care. Thank you next question from amy. Am tangible boston. Herald your line then. I think the i'm back. I wanted to talk. And we. But i had my first question about the production company. And how you were involved in. That and i was just wondering. Are you planning to do anything Like that going forward and and kind of what did you learn from that experience and maybe being a little bit on the other side of the business. Oh i just. I learned a lot for sure and i think we were mostly trying to because it was a nbc money that we were playing with Trying to develop series. And i think the main thing i learned was that i i think in the future i if i if i do work as a producer again. I don't know that it would be as a long running series. I think i'll start focusing more on On whether it be television films or or just feature small features independent features because the idea. You know the the the mind that it takes to come up with not just a the concept for show but one hundred episodes of it is. That's a whole other kind of thing and so i think The main thing i learned is that i want to focus a little bit more onto developing things that i might actually be in northern. I might direct rather than just sort of creating television as a producer and having of character on tv And that was it. We knew for so long viewers. Did you find any resistance. People think you and other part or or something you don't we don't see it happen as much anymore. Get gets there. And i think it's it's they're as much in the people that do the hiring as it is in the people that do the watching you know And it's it's sometimes it's not a terrible thing it's like it's a good problem to have that. So many people saw the show respect to show It's ultimately my own problem. That i have to choose wisely and And once i get the work do it well and make people you know. Forget the other guy. And that's that just takes time I think i think that a lot of us for a while. There's a part of me going. Come on what's the big deal. I was gay and that straighten but it. Television is a very powerful medium. And so i have to. I can't underestimate the effect that eight years of of a show and constant reruns Can can have people. Hey thank you so much. Thank you mike. Coverage of the press conference with. Eric mccormack on drama to strain will return in a moment. Guys this is james. Cohen writer director. Yesterday was a lie. And you're listening to sifi. Talk our next question from ashley. Dane with pop culture madness. Your line is open eye. Eric had another question for you. To say you played a gay man and willing and then the plane and added. So what do you look for in characters and scripts either gay or addiction. One of the. It's pretty much all the who knows your for me. The main the main thing. I'm looking for. I'm sure i'm not alone in this. Is i want to a story that surprises me. I want dialogue. That is that is smart. And luckily i got a little funny in this to a comedy but jack national very sort of better sense of humor but I just i. The main thing is a with something like Miniseries you're committing to six weeks to months of of your life and it's something that you look forward to do every day particularly series and when committing to a new series. It's be that just that magic. Something that usually is has to do with with how well the dialogue is written. It makes you wanna go to work every day. Uh-huh what's next for you What is next is series for tnt canadian. Tom cavanagh Personally called truth in advertising in new york last week and we shot the pilot last october. Right after i shot strain and we're going to start doing twelve episodes in the fall. I think it's gonna air on tnt after the closer In january oh very cool. Good luck with that. Thank you very much. Our next question from combined with fantastic is higher just A kind of fun follow up. I guess Ricky schroder and then brat play chess a lot whenever kinda hanging out between sane other any kind the same kind of fun things that you did on the set. Well let us say before. I was kind of in my own movie. Yeah i mean. I i i have never with those guys. I never had a scene with with rick. I have one with with ben So i was. I was mostly read the paper in betrayer So it's the truth It was very strange one day when we shot the very final scene where i got to meet everyone else in the movie and And i was. I was just full of conversation that day. I thought this was like like a thirsty man. Finding a found. And i was just like. Hey let's talk about what's going on but mostly it was It was like a one man. Show my but just following up with all the disasters that were happening. You mentioned earlier like it was just like shock after shock like this probe the world is after that one. And that's that's been lately. Yeah for sure. At the time. I mean i was just like there. Were you know. I mean it's global warming and all these other things so i don't know if that was affecting I'm not sure that's okay I didn't I mean it just all. It was was finding what you did in. Your downtime was reading the paper well afraid. i don't have a really i. I was doing some writing at the time but But i i can't. I don't know that. I can talk about what is ready at the time. So it's not a very good story but We you know. Like i say a lot of my stuff shot up in the desert areas of northern bc. So we were in. We're in cache creek. Which is basically a one horse town With a couple of chinese restaurants there wasn't a lot to do wasn't a lot to do during those days. thank you. Our final question is from tony. Tomato was talk. Your line is open. So do you like his wit. I just loved his sarcasm. I think he had plenty of it. Yeah i i whenever possible. I try to find something. Throw a little in there because i just i think that's that for me is the is is historian is not just that he has he offers a few witticisms once in a while or or sarcastic remarks but that he turns from sarcastic. Bastard into someone. That actually has to do something to help somebody else. Thank you very much. thank you everybody. Eric thank emily's batallio network for allowing me to attend a press conference until the very next sci-fi talk. This is tony tomato. Thanks so much for listening.

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172: Tabbys Star Theory

Space Nuts

43:23 min | 2 years ago

172: Tabbys Star Theory

"In fifteen seconds guidance journal and nine ignition sequence spence nuts three to to kneel good hello and thank you for joining us on another edition of the space ice nuts podcast episode one hundred and seventy two. My Name is Andrew directly your host if you're joining us for the first time if your joining us for the one hundred and seventy second time I'm sorry I've Said My name one hundred seventy times and with me as always for the one hundred and seventy second time is professor Fred Watson however Ed. Hey Hey how you doing andrew. I'm good. The question is how you you're jetlagged fool bits of still somewhere in the Indian Ocean. I think the most most of me here and that was a bit grumpy bit so that's always the big ticket time I now. Where did you go so I was. I had to weaken in Munich or in a small town near Munich. Co Gagging thing which is where the European observatory has its headquarters so there's a very pretty impressive headquarters building an all the other things that as well as a rather marvelous planetarium the Supernova planetarium which was only opened last year and so that's an exhibition commission it if anybody's ever in Munich and interested in astronomy that is definitely the place to go sessional Expedition Exhibition the the planetarium itself is state of the art projection. It very very good so I was at a conference. They're talking about education in astronomy which uh was something close to my house and yours too and then I had the weekend in Rome a half hour before it was actually because I spend and most talented motel room preparing tilk mill deny at the Australian embassy ahead engagement that in fact how the lovely day of meetings at various very interesting organizations like the Italian Space Agency enough the headquarters of the Italian Astronomy Research Organization also accompany a coal telespazio which is a company that does a lot with with the space agency that they do some amazing things on observation and things of that sort and wound up with the Nuclear Physics Research Josh Institute whether they're actually collaborating with scientists in Australia in Melbourne to to build a adopt matter matter detector in a in a disused mine to play skull style which is between I think between Melbourne and Bharat so that was interesting interesting but another highlight which would really only be interested straddling listeners. I think is on Sunday morning. I was at a memorial service. He's not in the Vatican but not very far away for ten. Fisher a former deputy prime minister nizing black. I met him a couple of times interview a couple of times over the years. I have never come across a politician who genuinely came across as as is a true gentleman that he stood head and shoulders above so many people in in such a ruthless game as politics and and he always seemed like he made he was just a fabulous fabulous guy yes. He's somebody very sorry never to have met because I would love to talk about with him because he was a train and Choosey off his stride but he towards the end of his life he was actually the Australia's embassador to the Holy See which is why there was a memorial service for Rome and so it was an honor to be invited to attend that and as a guest actually the president embassy to the Holy See so that was that was very good in very very moving and very very fitting to yes very fitting for a great man. He wasn't quite honorable blog now speaking of the Australian government one of the things we'll be talking about today as a strategy is gift to NASA has gone down like a lead balloon in the local media I might add we previously talked about tabbies star and the mystery surrounding the reason that it sort of if dims and then doesn't and then it deems again and now they have a theory we also look at Venus could have once been habitable well and what went wrong. I suspect the occupants of Venus burn fossil fuels for a couple hundred years and then all hell broke loose not that that's what's GonNa Happen here and we'll answer some questions about gamma-ray bursts gravitational waves and their effect on atomic clocks and whether or not a blue shift indicates indicates a universal collapse. Somebody's got plenty of spare time or just really really worried about the future. We'll get onto all of those very very soon but damn what have we given to NASA frayed. Oh it's well. It's that's interesting bit because yes it's a gift to NASA of one hundred fifty million dollars spread it over five years from the straddling government via the struggling space agency to support NASA's plans for trips to mas in the end and of course the moon as well which is regarded as a stepping stone to Mas however it's interestingly you know yes a gift Anassa but released a gift to Australia because they deal. I think means that most of that money we'll probably come back to Australian industry. It's all about engaging Australian into industry to support ticipal NASA with is technology and with you know some of the some of the ideas that needed to to to bring about text production not so there's a headline I read today about some of the autonomous vehicles used in the mining industry. Have you know they've got characteristics. That might be useful in developing vehicles my bell to explore Mars I mean Nassar's got a pretty good track record on that with three very successful rovers four if you think it was pathfinder as against Alga but no I mean I think I think it's an interesting area of of research and I think I think it is actually a good thing that we visibly supporting Nasice a you work in it is of course only eight point seven percent of Nasr's annual budget that we've given to them but that's all right. That's still gonNA make a difference and of course of course you know the the negative press that sort of came along with this announcement is obviously based on on very very narrow focus why putting money into the draft instead et Cetera et Cetera but we've got to be there for the future. We've got to be involved in space travel and space exploration and space industry otherwise we're going to be a very lonely country in the long term future. Gotcha and in this game things one hundred and fifty million dollars not a lot out of our budget Ada. I think one of the the one of the telling statements came from Andy Thomas Strategy is first astronaut actually wasn't Australia's first astronaut but that was Paul scully power but a well known Australian astronaut Mary Todd and on the made the point that you know he's been a big supporter of this strategy. Spicer at agency was instrumental in getting it going instrumental in the fact that he's moving is going to be based. His permanent base will be not alight light is currently based in Canberra but will move to Adelaide probably around the end of the year but he's coming was great to see the space industry as the space agency engaging with human spaceflight because most of what we do in Australia in the space in terms of spice presence is about scientific and industrial applications but not necessarily human spaceflight whereas this is definitely directed towards that goal so it expanding the the horizons of the Space Agency. I think quite a good way stuff all right now. Let's move onto tabby star. We've talked about tabbies star before it's an unusual situation because it has this strange habit of dimming and they haven't really been able to understand why this is a star. We've known about for a long time but now they seem to have come up with a possibility as to what the answer is here for it. Yeah that's right some some work. That's that goes. A paps puts a another a block of stone in the edifice our understanding of this object. We should give it its proper name which is k. for six to eight five too young to me only went down. Ask often known as bought by Jan Star. I'm not sure whether I'm pronouncing that correctly but it was but John who noted they you know they the curious behavior of this style which is basically aw I mean it's very unusual fluctuations in his light so it came out originally from the the Kepler Space Telescope program which was looking thing for the dimming of stars planets passing in front of that parent stars and we as spoken about many times before that netted the current total of just overfull at the current total of just over four thousand known planets around other stars there are other ways of detecting them but the so called transit method which is what capital's done actually is the one that has been the most productive. It's been eminently successful way of detecting planets in Kepler. Now has a follow up mission cold tests which is doing a similar job on in the whole sky so tabby star is in the constellation of cygnus. It's about is getting on for fifteen hundred light years away as the crow flies so it's not a another nearby star but what mocked it out was these very unusual fluctuations. Russians in its brightness not the kind of thing that you would get from planet passing in front of it which would Jupiter sized planet passing in front of the some jockeys his live by one percent so this knots the typical thing you're looking for when you're looking for extra solar planets but Tabby Star drops by up to twenty two percent which is huge and Dosa in peculiar ways not a planet planets planets aunt blocking the lot. That's something is blocking the light but but not planet and I think my recollections looking at previous. Welcome tabby style. There is a sort of quasar periodicity by that amendment you know the the drops in brightness whilst they're not strictly periodic by that's with regular frequency they they have that they're vaguely superiority it kind of put it that way so although they vary. I think the twenty two percent one was a one off and the other thing is that a astronomers have looked at measurements of the brightness of this over very long periods of time because what you can do when you know that you got something interesting you can go back to Kabul photographic plates taken over the last hundred years or so look at how its brightness has changed if it has so how how how its brightness is held up and it turns out that this the star has faded in Brian is by think it's fourteen percent over about the last hundred years is not in itself is a curious curious phenomenon that doesn't really seem to be explained by astrophysics of the Star itself which is actually a similar start the sun. It's actually an type star. Gt On starbucks it's it's similar similar type of star so people have proposal pose all kinds of things like swarms of comet one. I think you talked about is the possibility of dyson sphere being directed around the star dice. Fear is hypothesized. Edifices put out star by an alien civilization to collect all the light light yet but only energy from the start so that that was another suggestion I think that's probably the far end of the hypotheses. He's it's it's only now though that I think a reasonably coherent picture of what might be going going on has been put forward and it's come from a group of astronomers who I remember rightly. Let me just check where they they are at Columbia University which is an interesting place because they're gonNA be publishers of the new book when it comes out in the United States just as ask why not exploding stars Visible Planets Cola in Australia but that's alright so strongly present Columbia University of built this model level of what would happen if you had another planet in orbit around the Star but the moon of the planet that has been pulled away from its parent and planet by the styles gravity and he's being destroyed basically by the style and it turns out that the all the numbers add adop- if you've got this situation that this basically you've got a a moon that is falling to pieces. It's evaporating and the kinds of dimming of the parents that you see match what you would get from this model so it sounds like a fairly complicated construction construction the the theory that led to this but it seems to be that it does fit all the pieces. Actually one of the authors says is Let me just say he's actually one of the one of the one of the researchers working on this says. The team's team's model is unique in each hypotheses what drives the original planet towards the Star in the first place so that the planet itself is also being disrupted it actually results in the often exo moons ending up on highly eccentric which means as long as it orbits with precisely the properties previous research research had shown when needed to explain the dimming of tabby style no other no other previous muddle was able to pull all these pieces together gather so this model for all seems a bit contrived actually fits the data and that's that's the good thing about it so it suggests that it's you know this this exo moon's an extra mode of course is a is a moon around the next to a planet planets around another star. It's got this dusty out to layer of ice gas and perhaps cable carbonaceous rock as well and basically this is all foaming this around tabby star and giving us these peculiar variations in brightness including as the dust builds up a dimming of the star itself over a long period of time yeah I would as the dust thickens the the light gets held back bit by bit by bitten. Yeah it reduces the amount a lot. We detect it makes perfect sense. It's a simple explanation in the end of things. Isn't it yeah that's always you always apply what's called otms razor which is the simplest explanation possible and whilst this is a complex. It's nevertheless similar to what we've already a well. I'm sure it'd be more learn once they the daughter together on Tabby star but it does sound like they're run on the money with the with the explanation you're listening to space nuts. Andrew here with of course Professor Fred Watson. This episode is brought to you by Xerox today. 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Venus is closer to the sun than we are but that is not the full story when it comes to planning my Venus is so much hotter than the earth because the surface temperature in the region in four hundred fifty degrees. Celsius is quite a lot hotter than the days it. That's all about the the greenhouse in house environment that that decision in other words atmosphere so Venus's atmosphere like yes has not been in it but is also rich richer in carbon dioxide than the sin so traps the heat and the surface temperature rises enormously and then comes as with all kinds of very peculiar effects on the atmosphere things like sulfuric acid drizzle that happens a high highs in Venus's atmosphere it. It does make a place that you shouldn't put on a bucket list for holiday. So why is it like got well. There's a greenhouse you know a runaway greenhouse effect has exactly exactly as you said but I think what's interesting about. This piece of research is that people have actually really salted seriously looking at why should being you know what was it inevitable that that would happen. with the planet that is near to the sun the Earth is and the answer is apparently not what what this group of scientists have done these people who based at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies so it's not you no. They're not fly by night astronomers or anything like that. Although most astronomers a fly by night against the nation so looking at they've looked at the things like the topography of English the the actual structure of the surface they've looked at the what we know about Vulcan Ism Venus which is that it was in fact we know at Venus actually has more volcanoes than any other body in the solar system so it has has had a very active volcanic past but they've also looked at the you know the kind of phenomena that we know stabilizes the atmosphere and what is Ketu the atmosphere big stabilized is actually play tectonics as I think we've discussed before the fact that a plate tectonics he's a means of getting carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and into the into the crust of the Earth a basically the the carbon dioxide either goes directly into the oceans are subject to carbonic acid is absorbed that way but either way eventually finds its way down to the seabed and you get carbonaceous rocks building up. I mean I'm talking now about geological Michael Time that is then subjected under the under the continental place and that is a great way some of it comes back up through volcanoes but it nevertheless stabilizes the carbon dioxide content in the atmosphere so what the model is who have done this work have have built into their idea is that Venus actually was a world similar to the Earth for most of its history plate tectonics tonics. did that thing the atmosphere to perfect level surface liquid water. Perhaps perhaps a stable climate very much like that of the Earth then they speculate that may be a billion years ago perhaps seven hundred million years of something that sold something happened to change that and the they they run a whole of hypothetical scenarios in that muddling and come out with something that actually fits the bill rather well which is up for a seven hundred million year ago event that would have basically stopped the the plate tectonics in that tracks and stop this. you know this carbon dockside sink. What suggesting is that a some sort of? Vulcan ISM probably released a huge amount of gas pass into the atmosphere Venus and effectively a you know that that that gas basically was it was produced by some intense balkanisation which together with highly gaseous envelope also oh so the sealed up the surface with with what would it be multi magnet but then solidifying on the surface and stopping the plate tectonic cycle and that happened at a global level not a global level. Yes so something really very very significant. Nothing like the kind of things that for example we know that there was five hundred million years ago. Earth was allowed scale outgassing into the atmosphere from from vulcans which produce something called a Siberian traps which I think if I remember right near that lava flows there was a mass extinction as a result of that but but that's small beer compared with what evidently must've happened on Venus paps roundabout the San Antonio Mora Brasilia in order to produce what we see today which is a planet with a runaway greenhouse effect. It's it's a really interesting idea. They the you know you are once again relying a muddling to get this impression of a of a nice you know temporary temporariness before this event happened but it is it's based on belly solid research so it it does have a lot going for it. Particularly what is written by people who are in a one of NASA's actually most eminent planetary scientists institute so that that's it's amazing and one wonders what would have been like as a habitable world if if it was not dissimilar in terms of its topography griffey in and water notions and that sort of thing what what compared to us what would it have been like well it would have been much the same but with the sun slightly lightly bigger in the sky and maybe rather warm of this suspecting that the surface temperatures might be higher than what they are talking about twenty to forty degrees. Celsius on on average for the whole planet whereas here on the average temperature pretty sure it's fifteen degrees Celsius the average that attempt temperature of the planet got it so that's putting into Fahrenheit terms that twenty to forty degrees go sixty eight Fahrenheit which is the twenty degree mark to about one hundred and four degrees degrees Fahrenheit so she's the extremes would be much higher in so why would would have been hotter but you still only talking about temperatures like what we're getting US Chilean judge that very true yeah. It sounds like it would have been quite a livable place so one now wonders assuming they theory is spot on whether or not they did have life yeah that sounds maybe one day we will have the wherewithal to explore. Venus robotically county module whatever Wilkins Venus with those temperatures but who knows what sort of things we might find with with a robot strolling around Venus Bustle. Oh there's another one alta although if you've got super volcanoes sealing the whole surface with Mike Meyers probably not going to be much left of the fossils suppose not but they probably found the smoking gun Nado Cadillac that'll be that'll be the reason what happened now. These fascinating quite amazing and that sort sort of makes you think well. Hey Hey hang on a second if that happened at Venus and we look at Mars and go well you know at one stage had possibly liquidations and he's earth. I mean Holo suddenly there are three potential livable planets in solar system and the only one left and only what left and when messing it up yeah. Eh Guy well probably be more on this not fast track so we'll keep it on that story as well because twelve with reviewing you're listening to space nuts the podcast with Andrew Dunkley and Fred Watson space nuts did send the shadow early at two patrons through patriarch dot com are also locked to send a shot at Fred to youtube follow is we're starting to build quad little audience audience in Youtube. We've got two hundred and seventy subscribers that now listen via Youtube which is wonderful. We've decided to set a target so we would like to reach one thousand because apparently that's that's a good number that really understand youtube and have the numbers work but getting to one thousand is something that that benefits the benefits youtube obviously but also benefits space nut so we'll we'll we'll push on. If you'd like to become a subscriber to space nuts via youtube just do a search youtube apple whatever it is you use and yourself to a growing list of subscribers on youtube space nuts channel. That would be fantastic now we we got some questions to get through Fred. We've got a few today a couple of will be easy and one will be easier or maybe harder at this one comes from Bentley from Boda Entry Rick Bentley from boulder jury doesn't have an accent like that because he's in Colorado to the dynamic duo Andrew and Fred. That's the first time we've been called that and it will be the last time would blow shifting light from distant galaxies be assigned that the universe is beginning to collapse back on itself. Is the big a crunch or to slow down the free. That's a really interesting question. Light gives a lot of the lot spectrum gives a lot of way when when you're making observations in space what would it blue shift indicate fred will it would it would certainly tell you more than that. The Universe is expansion not Muslim down because in order for the light from a galaxy to be blue shifted the the galaxies go to becoming too so you're already in a scenario you were the universe is collapsing. If you see blue chips we see blueshirts actually up for a few nearby galaxies where the individual of the motion of the galaxy is enough to overcome the expansion of the universe. Uh Excuse me it's really only when you start looking relatively distant galaxies that the expansion of the universe is the most I you know the the most obvious feature of the spectrum so you get the redshift so they're blue two galaxies but there in fact what we what we distinguish between something called the Hubble flow which is the speed of galaxy as a result of of the expansion one of the universe and something called the peculiar motion which is the motion of a galaxy. That's peculiar to that galaxy might because by the fact that he's got a knee nearby my neighbor like we have with the andromeda galaxy and pulling together gravitationally that will be enough to overcome the the redshift because they you no the distance between these objects is small so we do see blue chips but not on a what you might call a cosmological scale not in the white universe. We only see red shifts so there's no danger that we're going to wake up one day and find all these galaxies that hitherto you have had redshift of now got blue shifts. That's not going to happen but in a in a different universe from one with that would go to collapse on itself. Yes yes. That's what you would see you would see blue shifted galaxies so a good question. Thank you Bentley for that. Could the expansion of our galaxy of Al Universe be pushing another one back on itself. Is that right yeah. I'll be there are ideas that was just one of many universities and maybe they are all jostling muscling for some sort of hyperspace nudging one another out of the way but that is at the moment beyond the realms of anything that we can we can actually do who was a observational discovery. All you can do is speculate aspect relations. I think can't do as good as anybody else's yeah. I'll take it okay. Thanks Bentley great question now. We've got a question from Christopher poorly. Christopher Christopher message had a question on before so he he he has another one that we thought we'd tackle so professor Google and her Research Assistant Youtube tells me that gamma rays cannot penetrate air atmosphere however however a lot of scientists feel that a gamma ray burst could sterilize large amounts of planets in galaxy assuming they have life. They told me me that a Gamma Ray burst is spinning supermassive star that is collapsing and turning into a black hole the source of some of the biggest explosions in the universe. My question Chen for Andrew Baja thought I'd read that bit for you for it is Google Rod. Does our atmosphere protects us from memorize. If so what about the Gamma Ray burst would rigby that scientists think could turn earth into a post apocalyptic wasteland love the show Cape it up. That's yeah that's exciting. Isn't it. The answer's Yes you know if you've got a gamma ray burst which is directing its its gamma rays the earth and it's not very far away it does strips the atmosphere of electrons and suddenly you've got nothing that's breakable and things start getting and pretty bad very quickly with the the reason why we know about. Gamma-ray bursts does is it interesting itself because they were not soon until it was the nineteen seventies when various nuclear protection treaties were an enacted acted a global treaties banning atmospheric nuclear tests and they were monitored by a fleet of small satellites satellites which were designed to pick up the gamma rays from anybody who broke the law by detonating a nuclear weapon in the atmosphere and what this commemorate satellites found was not stop coming from the ground but stuff coming from space. I detected occasional blasts of gamma rays which were a very mysterious for a long time in fact. I guess fantasize. It's really only been in the last ten to fifteen India's that astronomers have understood the mechanism by which Gamma Ray bursts work and is it more or less a as Christopher uh-huh says that if you've got this highly massive star maybe a neutron star that's spinning and something happens to it that causes it to collapse into a black hole then you get this huge burst of energy which doesn't last very long. It's it's a matter of I think. The gamma rays are over in a matter of seconds to minutes but often there is an optical flash visible. COUNTERPA actually very useful if you say that to to what can how distantly things are. We know that they are great distances. They're in very distant galaxies so for a while and I think this woke still goes on there was a a system setup whereby if a Gamma Ray was detected by one of these special gamma-ray detection satellites allies than you will be optical and radio astronomy communities and getting them to point to the place where the Gamma Ray bursts came from to see if there's any afterglow the the US happened is being detected not how we know of it more about the physics of these things the fact is that these gamma-ray bursts does that have been observed role a very very long way away so they gotta raise pretty weak by the time they get to the solar system but if he did have one in our galaxy addicts jet of material was directed in the right direction. Sorry is jeter. A highly energized radiation was in the right direction then yeah we could be Friday could strip the the planet of its atmosphere so I think the answer is that both Google and a a on youtube where right yeah thanks Chris forgiving us one more thing to worry about really appreciate it but now it is is fascinating. The odds are very very miniscule aren't they. Yes they are the the very slight this. I think we've discussed star recently. Soleil my rings a bell look to my brain is still over the Indian Ocean Khan remember it but I do remember. This was a candidate in our galaxy for aw possible. Gamma-ray burster might be to Corinne actually which is a very large and unstable star but it turns out that the the axis along in which the gamma rays would be directed is not actually pointing does so we might we might survive if he does go few. Thank you for your question. We'll move onto the final question for this episode from a double Banger because I think this was a discussion that was on the a podcast group on facebook and someone else to question someone else responded to it so I'm going to get credit both Damian Huxley in Brit Campbell for this one they say I wonder if Andrew Dunkley can ask Professor Fred. How does the maths work when looking at gravitational time dilation if if everything else is the same for both planets except for the mass one is a one hundred thousand times bigger. What is the change inch in time if you were able to watch all the atomic clocks on the satellites as a gravitational wave move pass. Would the clocks change time lime very very good question love time questions. Dodge questions are really think this is good stuff. It is good stuff so and we actually have had another question which is very similar to the second part of a of this one. We had another question in about atomic clocks detecting gravitational waves so the question we've got here is is as you said. He said two component one. What's the change in time for the you know when when Moscow's up by touch of a hundred thousand I I I don't know the answer hand in terms of the mathematics bud it's relatively straightforward when he looked at the equations of general relativity it they are a bit Excuse me they are a bit horrendous in other things called metrics which evolved matrices of large amounts of numbers an a- An- any all goes into something called tensor calculus which between you may Andrew Hope. Nobody's listening to this. I've never really understood probably because I've never really ready up properly but it what what often happens is these things boil down to a relatively straightforward equations and so sometimes it's just a question of proportionality while there's usually the speed of light involved in there somewhere which is a constant rise to seminomas power often say to the full both when you look at gravitational distortions disturbance have spiced by gravitational waves so I'm I I can't give answer to how much gravitation the time delights how different today's from one planet to another except to say that it is gravitational time time dilation because of the Earth is actually a very small amount you talking probably Nano seconds that kind of level when you compare an and people have compared clocks in aircraft and clocks on the ground in clocks in satellites and clocks on the ground and he suddenly measurable excuse me with Modern Technology but how different today's from planet to another. I don't have that number fingertips. I'm actually in some ways more interested in the second part of the question. which is if you were able to watch? All the atomic clocks on the satellites is the gravitational wave moved past with clocks change time and I guess just because gravitational wise our distortion of space time the answer is yes but I think the numbers would be infinitesimal compared with what we can detect now is a related question from Damien Huxley which is a any talks about caesium clocks and strontium clocks with these very very high frequencies but I don't think they're any wendy a high enough you've to detect the change in time caused by gravitational wave. That's an opinion pulled out of the from what I know about the effective gravitational gravitational waves on on space which is you know absolutely Chinese ex exactly as new not spoken about before on the line go experiment in the USA. These folks along interferometry arms the capable of detecting a movement of the mirror off one ten thousands of the damage of approach on a not as you know it's just astonishing is about the mind is nineteen meters and so oh your equivalent time distortion will be a similarly infinitessimal of level and I I'm pretty sure I we'll check this because I know people in the time world I will check it but I'm pretty sure that we have no way of detecting the kind of change that would occur gravitatational wave past. They go well. We managed to knock off forty seven questions in one there I think we should we left a good enough to keep going about five hundred. I suspect it does thank you to everybody who all those related questions much appreciated and hopefully the answer was well. They they ask questions because I don't know the answers so they might have had some theories but maybe maybe we help fill in some blanks for them for and thank you. It's always a pleasure we covered covered a lot of ground today in some really fascinating topics as well so thank you very much as jetlagged and dazed as you are. I Yeah I'll of course we'll not remember any of this conversation and so good thing recorded it. It is just as well yeah. Thanks a lot audrey good to talk to you. We'll speak again next week. We will indeed Professor Fred Watson. Astronomer Lodge joins US every week here on space net says as to you and keep spreading the word the more the merrier and we'll catch you next time on another edition of space nuts to this space nuts podcast waited subscribe to the podcast on Itchy and stitch-up or your favorite podcast distributed. This is another quality podcast production from thoughts dot com.

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