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"Of staying in alabama at least twenty months. That's how long it will be before. He's eligible for parole from his senate from two and a half to eight years during the time he is here. In this minimum security prison officials say mitchell will be treated the same as any other prisoner so john mitchell former. Us attorney general is wearing prison clothes now. The reckoning and the accountability didn't stop there across the nation from legislators congress to the media to regular everyday citizen the civic spirit of the time. Was that what happened in the nixon presidency was so horrifying abberant. It must be a symptom of a broken system and that system had reformed reform fixed less. It happen again. And so an incredible wave of reform again. There was the church committee led by democratic senator. Frank church of idaho looked into the secret of doings. Cia nsa fbi and found the agencies. Were spying on americans and roughshod over the law. All over the world and at home in nineteen seventy four. We saw the birth of modern campaign finance reforms after so much. The watergate scandal involved what we're essentially slush slush funds from shady donors being moved back at four and nine hundred seventy eight president. Jimmy carter signed a new law limiting electronic surveillance. The foreign intelligence surveillance act faisal. You've probably heard about that. All of this. Entire structure of regulation oversight for all this was erected to make sure we could not have another richard nixon and the wake of more revelations about the trump presidency. It's hard to say it's held for. We clearly need another round reform. We need more accountability for those who've done wrong those who have transgressed and abused their authority and we also need to protect our government against future would be donald trump's including this donald trump. That's what the boston globe editorial board calling for this week. And a new six part series about preserving our democracy called future proofing. The presidency makes really strong case the importance of indicting and prosecuting. Donald trump conduct office arguing that allowing him to go unpunished instead of far more dangerous precedent than having trump dan. Trial to reform the presidency's last four years are never repeated. The country must go beyond passing laws. It must make clear through its actions. No person not even the president is about. This comes in the wake of the new york times report yesterday revealing the prosecutors and the trump justice department subpoenaed apple for data from the accounts at least two democrats on the house. Intelligence committee aides and family members one was a minor all told the records of at least a dozen people tied to the committee were seized in two thousand seventeen in early twenty eighteen including those who representative adam schiff and represented eric swallow of california. Who said in an interview. Thursday night he had also been notified. His data had been subpoenaed. We know that trump doj also secretly seized phone records of reporters at the new york. Times cnn and the washington post imposed a gag order on cnn the times when you put all this together adam schiff. Eric swallow intel committee members. Staffers presumably on the democratic side family members a minor. The new york times cnn the washington post. Well it reads like an enemies list right. Richard nixon notoriously also kept a list of enemies and use the government to spy on them. Now let's be clear. The trump administration as far as we know if the reporting we have so far appears to have gone through the quote unquote proper channels. Which is to say. The doj issued legal subpoenas eating. Have his henchman breaking into their therapist's office like donald trump. Did we know how. Donald trump the people that follow him. Behave which is to say even if they went through the proper channels. This is almost certainly exactly what it looks like. And now as we consider there's revelation and the perilous state of american democracy consider that there has been neither accountability nor reform for any of the characters in the trauma and for obvious reasons. It cannot stand cannot go on like this. The abuses were so great the threat to the country's rule of law democratic self governance. So severe that to let it go. Unrecognized and on reckoned with will bring some kind of cataclysm. It's honestly just a question of when is the job now of everyone in power. Democrats republicans alike though. I have much faith to get to the bottom of what happened in toto to hold people to account across the various areas of wrongdoing and implement the reforms needed to make sure it does not happen. To get congressman. Eric swallow democrat california investigated donald trump as a member of the house intelligence committee. You prosecuted him as an impeachable manner. Trump's second impeachment trial. He says he's one of the people whose records were secretly seized and congress while joins me. Now it's good to have you congress and maybe it's just start on sort of the facts of the matter here. What were you notified by whom went. Good evening chris. It was a random may five email from apple that i almost deleted Same customer service notice that your data was turned over. And i read it and at first i really did think it was spam But not. The department of justice leapt off the screen. And i talked with our house intelligence staff and of course others had also received the same notice and we have since learned as the new york times reported that there were a number of staffers in congressman schiff. And i who were targeted. Look this is not about adam. Schiff and myself. It's about a president rewarding. His friends corruptly through the department of justice as he did with michael flynn and roger stone and punishing his perceived enemies. And my fear is that you may not have been successful this time and locking up his enemies but a more corrupt or donald trump in the white house again may not be as patient may just skip the department of justice and processes and just order his lieutenants to lock his political opponents. Yeah i guess. That's the crux of it right. I mean when when you hear this news and this sort of idea that went through the proper channels that you know that that's both at some level. I guess like some check their but also disturbing that there were people inside the justice department. That went along with this operation. And that's why support adam shifts call for an inspector general report and investigation to understand. Not only was this. Bill barr jeff sessions and matt whitaker. You know whoever was in charge at the time but what rank and file prosecutors went along with this and under what environment did they not think. It was ok to resist. Having the communication records of a co equal branch of government surveilled again. I'm not above the law. Adam shifts not above the law but to me knowing certainly never leave classified information and there was no reasonably would have to do this. It seems punitive but it seems as part a pattern of donald trump abusing part of department of justice. Go after his enemies. A there is appears. They're going to be an inspector general report. But i wanna read you this response. That senator bryan shots of hawaii had yesterday. He said this. I hesitate to tell the other chamber how to conduct. Its business but since we are in a fifty fifty senate and can't issue subpoenas that republicans. I respectfully ask the house to not call for investigations and executive branch. But rather do it themselves. What do you think that. Well i i like senator shots in. I don't think he's off there. i think. Let let's see where the How serious the department of justice takes this. And i know that chairmanship and chairman nadler and the speaker. We'll be talking about what we can do. We're not helpless anymore. Certainly not in the house of representatives. And i think we've shown through to impeachments a willingness to hold donald trump accountable again. I just want the public to recognize. This is not a five hundred year flood That donald trump thinks. He's going to be reinstated in august. He's running for re election in two thousand twenty four. You have a number of wanna be donald trump's who are just as corrupt probably more competent. And so if we take steps to make sure this doesn't happen again We could really see the erosion the complete erosion of the rule of law in our country. There's also an incredible irony here. And i think an important one and it harkens back to what i was saying in that in that monologue about rebalancing power right which was a huge part of what that nixon post nixon era looked like there. Was this sort of moving power back towards congress from the executive but there's an incredible irony here which is that having already secretly subpoenaed members of congress in their stabs acquiring their data when the house subpoenaed the white donald trump and people in his orbit..
Fresh update on "richard nixon" discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Should have access to their capital especially during session after the session. We're all gonna go out to dinner or stop at the grocery store or maybe tomorrow we'll shop and buy clothes or get oil changed because all these places are open but not this building. Oh you're persecuting me. Because i just want people to be in the capital. That ridiculous excuse didn't work the resolution to expel him past fifty nine to one. With only nermin voting to save himself he was formally expelled from the oregon legislature and that is an example of tangible accountability for a wild transgression. And i bring you this story tonight. Because it's noteworthy and newsworthy. But because boy is it. Rare earth probably have to go all the way back to richard nixon to find another. Us president who abused his authority at the scope and scale of donald trump. and richard. Nixon actually did face some accountability. He was forced to resign from office after the house. Judiciary committee adopted three articles of impeachment. Him and even though president gerald ford pardoned him and he wildly unpopular move. Many people in richard nixon's orbit were held accountable for their actions. All of these people were prosecuted and served time in the wake of the watergate scandal. Look at that. List includes watergate. Burglars nixon's white house counsel and personal turning his chief of staff even attorney general john mitchell. Given the circumstances mitchell was in a relatively good mood as he arrived at the prison. All mitchell said was it's nice to be back in alabama. He assured.
Fresh update on "richard nixon" discussed on BBC Assignment
"And everything went dark. And I could since that I was moving. And I was like My God. Did I just get bit by a sharp Mr Packard said when he realized he was inside a whale's mouth. He feared he would die but struggled until the creature spat him out about 30. Seconds later. Mr Packard was taken to hospital but had no serious injuries and has since been allowed to leave. That's the latest BBC news. You're listening to the newsroom from the BBC World Service with me, Alex Wrightson. Donald Trump is back in the news again. The U. S. Justice Department has launched an investigation into reports that officials under the Trump administration tried to secretly obtained the phone records. Leading Democrats. The move is thought to have been part of an inquiry into leaks about the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. North America correspondent David Willis told me more The U. S. Justice Department routinely conducts investigations into leaks of classified information. Nothing new about that. We know that they've examined journalists phone records in the past, sometimes even journalists email records. But what makes this unusual to put it mildly, is it involves the surveillance of members of Congress that surveillance remained secret because the companies That were the subject of the Justice Department. Subpoenas were also barred from discussing them under the terms of what's called a gag order, and indeed, it only came to light last month, once the final Gag order expired. But surveillance of this kind is so rare that it would have required top level approval in the Department of Justice for it to be brought about, and hence, Democrats are very angry. They've called this a gross abuse of power, and certainly the revelation that One branch of the U. S government was using its powers together. Private information on members of another branch of the U. S government is pretty stunning, and the fact that the Justice Department is investigating suggests that if this has happened, it's potentially illegal. That's right. And indeed, some here are saying that this carries echoes of the actions of President Richard Nixon during the Watergate scandal. What we know is that subpoenas were issued by the Justice Department to Microsoft and Apple for the phone records of at least a dozen people. With ties to the House Intelligence Committee, including the leading Democrat on that committee, Adam Schiff, who later became the committee's chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. Is significant because it was the committee that looked into links between Donald Trump's election campaign team and Russia. And we know that Microsoft and Apple handed over the numbers of the people who had been in contact with those who were being placed under surveillance. Although not, it's thought the content of those communications a lot of questions here, Alex and not least did former President Trump himself explicitly ordered the Justice Department to investigate these lawmakers. All of this banal go before the inspector general, the independent Inspector General of the Justice Department for an investigation. David Willis. The coronavirus pandemic will dominate the agenda again on the second day of the G seven summit in Britain, with leaders expected to sign a declaration on how better to respond to future health crises. The plan is to provide recommendations on how to control an outbreak before it spreads widely when proceedings get underway in a few hours time there will also be cause for renewed commitment by large democracies. To work together better on the opening day on Friday, tackling climate change was also discussed and the leaders attended a reception at the even projects Biosphere a huge indoor rainforest. Hosted by Queen Elizabeth. So what real progress, if any, is being made by the G seven leaders. Our political correspondent Robert Watson, offers this assessment. Having covered events and some it's like this for 2030 odd years. I've learned that I think that you can't really know what's happened until the dust has settled, and that's something that will sometimes take days, sometimes weeks months, indeed, sometimes years, but I mean, clearly through the through the photo ops and.
"richard nixon" Discussed on Everything Everywhere Daily
"On july twenty fourth nineteen sixty nine neil armstrong and buzz aldrin became the first humans to walk on the moon during their time walking on the surface which only lasted about two and a half hours. They received a phone call from the president of the united states. Richard nixon for purposes. That will soon become obvious. I'd like to play the entire clip free now. And don't worry it's not very long kneeland is talking to you by telephone from the oval room house and this certainly has to be the most historic telephone. Call ever made from the white house. I just can't tell you how proud we all are what you have done for. Every american this has to be proudest day of our lives and for people all over the world. I am sure that they to join with americans and recognizing what an immense speak. This is because of what you have done. The heavens have become a part of man's world and as you talk to us from the sea of tranquility it inspires us to redouble our efforts to bring peace and tranquility to earth for one priceless moment and the whole history of man. All the people on this earth are truly one one in their pride in what you have done and one in our prayers that you will return safely to earth. The call caused some controversy. People objected to using the moment to put the emphasis on a political leader. Democrats were upset. Because nixon had only been president a few months and most of the apollo program had been developed under the kennedy and johnson administrations nonetheless. The controversy was rather minor and soon forgotten. The speech however wasn't the only speech that was prepared in the lead up to apollo eleven the nixon administration was thinking about what they say in their phone call to the astronauts nixon speechwriter. William safire was contacted by an astronaut and was warned about something that they should be prepared for in a new york times article nineteen eighty-nine where sapphire was a columnist for years. He wrote quote. Frank borman our liaison with the astronauts brought the image making.
The Speech Richard Nixon Never Gave
"On july twenty fourth nineteen sixty nine neil armstrong and buzz aldrin became the first humans to walk on the moon during their time walking on the surface which only lasted about two and a half hours. They received a phone call from the president of the united states. Richard nixon for purposes. That will soon become obvious. I'd like to play the entire clip free now. And don't worry it's not very long kneeland is talking to you by telephone from the oval room house and this certainly has to be the most historic telephone. Call ever made from the white house. I just can't tell you how proud we all are what you have done for. Every american this has to be proudest day of our lives and for people all over the world. I am sure that they to join with americans and recognizing what an immense speak. This is because of what you have done. The heavens have become a part of man's world and as you talk to us from the sea of tranquility it inspires us to redouble our efforts to bring peace and tranquility to earth for one priceless moment and the whole history of man. All the people on this earth are truly one one in their pride in what you have done and one in our prayers that you will return safely to earth. The call caused some controversy. People objected to using the moment to put the emphasis on a political leader. Democrats were upset. Because nixon had only been president a few months and most of the apollo program had been developed under the kennedy and johnson administrations nonetheless. The controversy was rather minor and soon forgotten. The speech however wasn't the only speech that was prepared in the lead up to apollo eleven the nixon administration was thinking about what they say in their phone call to the astronauts nixon speechwriter. William safire was contacted by an astronaut and was warned about something that they should be prepared for in a new york times article nineteen eighty-nine where sapphire was a columnist for years. He wrote quote. Frank borman our liaison with the astronauts brought the image making You wanna be thinking of some alternative posture for the president. In the event of mishaps the blank looks at this techno jargon he added like what to do for the widows suddenly we were faced with the dark side of the moon planning death if it came would not come in a terrible blaze of glory. The greatest danger was that the two astronauts on the moon would not be able to return to the module in that event with no rescue possible. The men would have to bid the world farewell and closed down communication preparatory to suicide or starvation.
"richard nixon" Discussed on This American President
"As i said. Earlier part of nixon kissinger's realism included a recognition that all nations had legitimate interests regardless of their ideology even if that ideology conflicted with traditional american values. This was a departure from the hopes of many americans that the united states could promote regime change in the soviet union or perhaps the soviet union would actually collapse for realists like nixon and kissinger the soviets with all of their tanks ships planes and nuclear weapons. Were a fact of life. They were here to stay and the best thing to do was to accept that and make the best of it. There's some irony to all of this nixon's philosophical change from anti-communist crusader to realist was made possible by his reputation as an anti-communist historian john lewis gaddis wrote quote. Nixon had been so staunch anti-communist over the years that flexibility now took the aura of statesmanship rather than softness thus according him greater freedom of action than his more liberal rivals for the presidency could have expected in other words nixon's credibility from years of opposing. Communism gave him enough flexibility. When actually dealing with the communists world part of fostering detente and developing that balance of power meant holding real negotiations with the communists many conservatives. Believe that having summits with the soviets would allow the soviets to take advantage of the united states as they believed happened with fdr at the altar conference by contrast nixon welcomed the idea of a summit as a chance for both nations to discuss and promote mutual interests. Nixon and kissinger believed that back channels could be a major part of this whole strategy as we saw in the anna cinelli incident. Nixon made full use of secret on voice. They could help circumvent the bureaucracy. He loathed while keeping nixon's less than savory activities hidden realism fit. Nixon and kissinger's temperaments very well. Both men were born strategists and relish. The idea of being bold statesman remaking a new international system through high stakes diplomacy. There was something about their brand of realism that some felt bread a sense of superiority. A sense of intellectual superiority. America had been fighting the cold war in a certain way for so long. But here were nixon and kissinger saying that. Everyone was doing it the wrong way and they had a better way. Nixon and kissinger seem to be saying that america had gotten carried away with its sense of moralism and exceptionalism. They believe that true statesmen engaged in real politique screw morals. This was all about interests morals. Were for the weak minded kissinger himself. Once said quote our objective was to purge our foreign policy of all sentimentality. Of course there was no shortage of critics of nixon and kissinger's realism both. Then and now the were those on the left who felt that realism was merely the continuation of anarchic darwinistic. Politics were interest governed nations actions the same policies. They felt that led to two world wars. And then there were those on the right and the left who felt that by engaging with realism. They were sacrificing america's values and exceptionalism. They felt that america couldn't divorce it's morals from its policies. After all wasn't america conceived in the idea that equality and liberty were morally good and tyranny was morally evil communism to them wasn't just a threat to the nation but it was also morally wrong. It was oppressive to its own people and aggressively expansionist. These critics believe that if america recognize what the soviets considered their interests that it would basically legitimize their immoral regime. Democrats john f. kennedy repeatedly equated communism with slavery tyranny and unlawful aggression kennedy himself once said quote the communists are determined to destroy us and regardless of what hand of friendship we may hold out or what arguments we may put up the only thing that will make that decisive difference is the strength of the united states and up and coming. Republican governor of california named ronald reagan also viewed the struggle against communism in moral terms saying quote. We cannot buy security our freedom from the threat of the bomb by committing an immorality. So great as saying to a billion human beings. Now enslave behind the iron curtain. Give up your dreams of freedom because to save our own skins were willing to make deal with your slave masters to anticommunist on the american left and right meant ignoring the moral component of the cold war and to those on the right who viewed the struggle. in zero-sum terms any recognition of soviet interests was merely appeasement by another name. This doesn't mean that nixon and kissinger of all ideological concerns at least publicly. They still believe that the soviet union was an entity to be contained. The whole idea behind detente was to give it an incentive to change its behavior from one of aggression to one of cooperation nixon in a speech at oxford during his retirement in nineteen seventy eight said. He believed that. America's free society was superior to the soviet system saying quote that with everything that is wrong in our society and in the free societies. We advertise our weaknesses while and there's they bury. There's i believe that what we stand for is worth saving. And as we'll see. Nixon continued much of what eisenhower and kennedy did when it came to using covert action against left wing regimes around the world. But for many. Nixon and kissinger's new policies meant that ideology and morality. Were taking a back seat or at least had to take a back seat for a stable world order. And some of america's allies who were ideologically and strategically aligned with the united states. Now found themselves wondering if they could count on the new administration. There was also another of the nixon kissinger foreign policy. A tactic they would employ. It was the perception that they cultivated of unpredictability. Nixon promoted the impression that he was unpredictable. Maybe even a little unstable so that adversaries would fear what he would do. This would give them enhanced leverage in fact when an american prisoner of war was released by the north vietnamese recounted that his captures thought nixon was quote off his rocker. nixon loved it and wrote quote. It was absolutely essential for them to think that he later said quote. I want the north vietnamese to believe that. I reached the point where i might do anything to the war. Kissinger told an aide who was about to visit the soviet union. Tell the soviets. Nixon was quote crazy so at the start of nixon's administration realism was in. It was a bold new direction in american foreign policy but nixon had formidable set of challenges that would test this new approach how this strategy played out in one of the most tumultuous era's of american history is the subject of the next.
"richard nixon" Discussed on This American President
"And their realism. In a sense matched the time as america. Face the realities of its limitations. Their view flowed from the belief that the united states must accept the world as it was rather than what people wished it to be historian. John lewis gaddis wrote of nixon and kissinger's thinking saying quote there lingered in the united states are reluctant to accept the fact that conflict and disharmony who were and would continue to be inescapable characteristics of international life. There was still the belief that somehow the united states might transcend the international order instead of simply having to operate within it these unrealistic hopes and the corrosive effects of reality upon them had produced also nations between isolation and over-extension in the american approach to the world. What was needed was the realism to accept the world. As it was together with the ingenuity to make the best of it realism and idealism. These elements are often in constant tension in american foreign policy. The united states is a nation dedicated to the high ideals of liberty and equality but it exists in an imperfect world where ideals and take a backseat to reality as a result. America finds itself sometimes struggling to reconcile the two sometimes. Having to make decisions that appear at least on the surface to compromise its ideals. The founders demonstrated their idealism by declaring all men are created equal and going to war with a monarchic government but they also demonstrate their realism by allying with one monarchy namely france to defeat another the british. The founders were dedicated to ideals by believing that the people were endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights and that government existed to protect those rights but they were also realists in believing that men were fallen and when given power were prone to abuse it. It's why they created a system of checks and balances to prevent anyone from getting too much power only by accepting the reality of the world and the self interested nature of mankind. The founders believe america could attain its ideals of freedom and equality these ideals too many defined. What american exceptionalism was all about the idea that america was different that it adhered to certain ideals exceptional ideals and it showed that it was different by how it acted there were certain unavoidable moral elements to this if one believes in the ideal of freedom and rights one accepts. The notion that protecting the rights of man is the right thing to do. There's an element of something being a moral good. Protecting rights is morally right while violating them is morally wrong. According to american founding philosophy king george the third was morally wrong to oppress the americans. The americans were morally right to rebel by the twentieth century. Progressive presidents would take this idealism and moral righteousness to a new level. President wilson's idealism would lead him at the end of world war two to reach for unprecedented lofty goals. Like ending all future warsaw and spreading democracy. He hoped his league of nations would create a world government. That would accomplish these ends. His critics believed that he was abandoning the founders realism. A fundamental understanding of human nature for nixon and kissinger. This excessive focus on idealism was in the real world very dangerous. It led policymakers to bind to foolish impractical ideals. Like ending all wars in doing. So america would be wasting resources on ideas that would not work and it would overextend itself. Realists criticize wilson reminding us that his league of nations failed to prevent world war two and the rise of aggressive fascist governments in italy germany and japan strangely enough. Nixon admired wilson but believed looking at the world from an ideological or moral perspective. That america had to act morally righteous ways to adhere to its ideals was foolish realism dictated a new way to look at america's adversaries at this time. The great adversary was the soviet union. As i said earlier many americans felt that they had a moral imperative to stop communism. But nick saban and kissinger believed that. This was dangerous thinking to them. The ideology of the country was not that important regardless of ideology all nations had legitimate. That's by extension. The soviet union had legitimate interests. Also this type of thinking. Nixon kissinger's thinking was heresy to some anticommunist often pointed out that the soviet union was based on an ideology that saw the world as a clash of classes and therefore did not recognize the legitimacy of nation states. Many communist saw the nation state which was the foundation of all western international relations as either a temporary accommodation on the road to a stateless future. Utopia or bourgeois creation to oppress workers. This line of thinking also led anticommunists to refuse to recognize communist china but nixon and kissinger ignored this rather than looking at the world from an ideological and moral plane. They viewed the world based on power interest. It was also partly based on the idea that ideology was just surface level justification for a country to rule on people that even if america was a western republic and the soviet union communist state america did not have any moral superiority based on ideology. Some would say that this was a cynical view of the world that power ruled everything and that ideology was just a power play but kissinger and nixon accepted it. As the best framework for international relations. They both felt that america had to accept the soviet union and the communist chinese as a fact of life at least for the time being rather than trying to eliminate it it also meant a willingness to engage with america's adversaries to even make deals with them with an eye toward forging mutually beneficial agreements. Realism also meant recognizing the fact that the world was catching up with the united states. That there was more parody. Geopolitically it meant stopping the race to maintain all out superiority in various arenas like conventional nuclear weapons now instead of superiority. The us should look for sufficiency having sufficient weapons to deter its enemies rather than trying to guarantee victory. In the event of conflict. this wasn't totally inconsistent with the principles of previous administrations. It was expensive to maintain superiority and eisenhower. Feared that america would bankrupt itself trying to do so perhaps if the arms race could be restrained on both sides. A lot of money could be saved. So there was an element in nixon and kissinger's realism about recognizing america's fiscal limitations. for years. the united states held to a two and a half war doctrine. That meant that the us plan to be able to fight two and a half wars at the same time. Two major wars and one minor war. This standard was informed in part because of america's experience in world war two where it had to fight two major wars simultaneously one against the japanese and the other against the nazis. Nixon changed the standard to one and a half wars so one major war and one smaller war. According to nixon and kissinger accepting parody could actually be a good thing for the world as a whole. If you've ever read much of kissinger's writings there's one concept he goes back to over and over and that's the idea of the balance of power essentially it's the idea that international systems are more safe and more stable when power is more evenly distributed among multiple players. Nixon explained it later during his presidency. When he said quote the only time in the history of the world that we have had any extended period of peace is when there has been a balance of power it is when one nation becomes infinitely more powerful in relation to its potential competitor that the danger of war arises. Nixon can point to examples when europe was at peace because most of the nations on the continent were roughly equal in geopolitical power and no sought much power influence when france under napoleon or germany under hitler expanded to much. The balance was disrupted and war would result was a departure from previous thinking on the cold war whenever the soviet seemed to get ahead in any arena or to close the gap. Americans felt threatened when the soviets went into space with sputnik americans freaked out and demanded their leaders. Do something about it. Kennedy had run in nineteen sixty warning about a missile gap in which the soviets were supposedly ahead of the united states in building missiles that delivered nuclear weapons and he promised to rectify it. Connection and kissinger. If america maintain superiority the world would actually be less stable. Stability would come only. When more countries were relatively equal in strength during his presidency. Nixon specified which countries he felt should partake in this new global balance of power. I think it would be a safer world and a better world. If we have a stronger healthy. United states europe soviet union china and japan each balancing the other not playing against the other and even balance. This is interesting because you have to remember. For decades america had spent billions of dollars trying to counter soviet strength and at times trying to undermine it. And yet here was richard nixon the same richard nixon who rose to power by attacking his political opponents as being soft on communism saying that he felt that a sufficiently strong soviet union and communist china would be in our interest and in the world's interests it was a remarkable transformation for nixon personally but also for american foreign policy. And you have to think about guys. Like jeff kaye. Who constantly felt that they had to prove that they were tough on communism. Imagine if kennedy said he had felt that america would be safer with a strong and stable soviet union and china he would have been attacked as soft on communism and yet here was the famed anti-communist nixon saying it. Ironically this is actually kind of what george kennan had in mind kenan as we covered in our truman episodes was a major architect of america's containment policies against the soviets. You may recall that. His plan called for countering the soviet union by boosting five centers of economic and military power as things turned out once cold war tensions increase. Truman and eisenhower accepted the idea of a more bipolar world. A zero sum game between the western nations and the communist ones but nixon and kissinger now accepted more cannons view of a multipolar world. Believing it was far more stable and seemed to account for the great complexity of the world. Kissinger himself wrote in nineteen. Sixty eight quote. A bipolar world loses the perspective for nuance again for one side appears to be an absolute loss for the other. Every issue seems to involve a question of survival. The smaller countries are torn between a desire for protection and a wish to escape. Big power dominance a more pluralistic world is profoundly in our long-term interests realists believe that there would be a natural equilibrium in a multipolar world but that equilibrium would be achieved through different layers. Of course every major power has different strengths and weaknesses. You could measure geopolitical power in many ways militarily economically and politically in nineteen seventy-three kissinger wrote quote in the military sphere. There are two super powers in economic terms. there are at least five major groupings politically. Many more centers of influence have emerged so finding an equilibrium in the geo political power of different countries was not an exact science. That brings up another element of nixon and kissinger's foreign policy and that's the idea of linkage linkage was simply the belief a recognition that all issues between nations were interrelated. This went against much of how american foreign policy was practiced for instance negotiations on trade. We're usually conducted separately from negotiations on limiting arms. There was a belief that if both sides were at an impasse on one issue like women arms that shouldn't preclude potential areas of agreement elsewhere and kissinger felt that since these issues were interrelated. They should actually be linked together. Nixon himself said quote. I recognize that previous administrations took the view that when we perceive a mutual interest on an issue at the ussr. We should pursue agreement an attempt to insulate it as much as possible from the ups and downs of conflicts elsewhere. This may well be sound on numerous bilateral and practical matters such as cultural or scientific accepted ges but on the crucial issues of our day. I believe we must seek to advance on a front at least broad enough to make clear that we see some relationship between political and issues. I believe that the soviets should be brought to understand that they cannot expect to reap the benefits of cooperation in one area while seeking to take advantage of tension or cooperation elsewhere through linkage nixon and kissinger hope to bring strength in one area to bear on another for example. Nixon was willing to allow america to sell some technology to the soviets but the soviets had to pressure the north vietnamese to make deal with the americans if they wanted that technology the soviets didn't take two linkage quite easily. they would rather continue compartmentalizing. The issues the soviets new that the americans would want to find ways to pressure them to improve their human rights record. They preferred to keep that issue off the table. During negotiations of nuclear weapons or trade talks nixon and kissinger also encountered resistance from their own bureaucracies since they were naturally siloed from each other and that made linkage very difficult but linkage if done right would allow the united states to leverage its strengths more effectively in any given area of conflict at any rate. All these issues of linkage negotiations would.
"richard nixon" Discussed on This American President
"Racial divisions deepened in the nineteen sixty six midterm elections. Richard nixon travelled across the nation campaigning for republican candidates. In doing so he earned the loyalty of many in the gop. The republican party made gains that year by the nineteen sixty eight presidential election. The nation was in turmoil. As i said earlier political leaders were being assassinated. The war was unpopular as ever throughout the whole time. Richard nixon was plotting and campaigning for his alternate goal. The white house american saw the state of the union and they didn't like it many of them thought back to the good old days the nineteen fifties before the chaos of vietnam and the divisions in the country. Eisenhower was in the last years of his life. But richard nixon. His former vice president was available for service for many americans. Richard nixon was a throwback to the nineteen fifties. That's simpler more peaceful time. Nixon had the perfect slogan for the moment law and order his campaign portrayed him the former lightning rod for controversy now as an experienced statesman. He vaguely promised. Peace with honor in vietnam but without specifics on how he would forge that piece the messaging resonated nixon again gained the republican nomination. President johnson a democrat could have run for reelection in nineteen sixty eight but he decided not to so he could focus on vietnam instead of campaigning. Instead nixon face johnson's vice president hubert humphrey in the general election. But it was during the election that some historians believe nixon engaged in what they consider near treasonous behavior. It's possible that nixon felt that for him to win. He had to be as dirty. Felt the kennedys had been with him in nineteen sixty throughout nineteen sixty eight. The johnson administration had sought an agreement with the north vietnamese to end. The fighting johnson was a democrat but his vice president hubert humphrey was under pressure by the left wing of the democratic party to break with johnson and criticized the administration over the war. Some historians believe that because of this johnson felt nixon. Despite being a republican was closer to his position on the war that he could trust nixon to prosecute the war effort better than his own vice president. Peace talks with the north vietnamese. Continue but one of the biggest problems was the position of america's ally the south vietnamese. They feared that any agreement might leave them to fight north vietnam alone without american support. According to historians like melvin small the nixon team had ties tool woman named anna channel. Who was from. China had married an american general and was a strong supporter of chiang kai checks regime in taiwan. Apparently she was connected to the south vietnamese government and played a liaison role between them and the nixon campaign. Nixon's team apparently suggested the south vietnamese government in hanoi. They reject the deal offered by johnson. And wait out for a better deal. Under a potential nixon administration in other words the nixon campaign according to some historians have engaged in sabotaging the johnson administration's peace efforts. President johnson was said to have known about what nixon was up to. And understandably was outraged. Johnson announced a bombing halt on october. Thirty first just before the election but two days later the south vietnamese rejected the deal. Melvin small believes south. Vietnam would have done this regardless of what the nixon campaign was up to. He also says that. Johnson wanted to reveal what nixon had done but didn't do so because it would expose the fbi surveillance of the nixon campaign. No one ended up being prosecuted for treason. There are many commentators who believed that nixon did indeed sabotage the talks if true. It was only the start of the hardball tactics. Nixon would employ as president regardless of what happened that november nixon defeated hubert humphrey in a narrow race. It is still considered one of the greatest political comebacks of all time especially when you consider where his career was in one thousand nine hundred sixty to just six years earlier richard nixon attain the goal he had sought for most of his adult life. He was now. The president of the united states few men had ever had a more tortuous path to that office. Nixon reflected on that journey during his victory speech. Having lost a close one eight years ago and having won a close when this year. I can say this winnings a lot more fun on january twenty eighth nineteen sixty nine richard. Nixon took the oath of office as the thirty seventh president of the united states in his inaugural address. He spoke in lofty terms to a nation. Desperate for peace greatest honor history can stove is the title of peacemaker. This honor now beckons amarah. The chance to help lead the world last out of the valley of turmoil and onto that high ground piece. That man has dreamed of since the dawn of civilization. If we succeed generations to come. We'll say of us now. Living that we mastered our moment that we help make the world safe for mankind. This is our summons to great. Nixon came into office with great ambitions for himself and his country just like his rival. Jfk nixon believed. He could leave his greatest mark on history and foreign policy. It's sometimes said that. Some presidents are focused more on domestic policy and some more on foreign policy while nixon was a foreign policy president in nineteen sixty seven. He said quote. I've always thought this country could run itself domestically without a president. You need a president for foreign policy. The american economy is so strong it would take a genius to ruin it whereas one small mistake in foreign policy could blow up the world during his time in the political wilderness from nineteen sixty one to nineteen sixty seven. Nixon travelled around the globe absorbing more and more knowledge about the world carefully formulating his views and those views centered on the foremost foreign policy challenge of the united states. At the time the cold war in previous episodes we covered how nixon's predecessors crafted strategy to deal with the soviet union. The policy of containment we learn. How under president truman. America committed to resisting the expansion of communism. It was really a compromise between those who wanted to oppose the soviet union. And maybe even push back from its current boundaries which was a strategy called rollback. And those who wanted to accept the soviet union as a fact of life perhaps.
"richard nixon" Discussed on This American President
"Most americans remember the richard nixon of the nineteen seventies when he was middle aged man serving as president. I remember the nixon. That was still alive in the nineteen eighties and nineties when he was an elder statesman. But many forget that there was a time when nixon wasn't a longtime public figure perpetually haunting american politics but rather a young rising star. He was just thirty nine years old when he won the vice presidency. The second highest office in the land to this day he remains the second. Youngest man ever elected to that office. Buchanan's vice president. John breckenridge was the only one younger becoming vice president at age thirty six. Nixon was born in january nineteen thirteen in yorba linda. California the second of five boys in a poor quaker family. Two of his brothers would die young his younger brother. Arthur died in childhood in nineteen twenty five and his older brother harold in his twenties in nineteen thirty three they were a family used to hardship and struggle. The nixon family headed stern household. They observe the quaker practice to refrain from dancing swearing and drinking alcohol. His father frank. Nixon had his share business failures running a farm grocery and gas station. Young richard nixon at public schools got good grades and played football. He ended up graduating from his high school third in his class. But it was in debating those in high school and in whittier college. Where nixon really excelled winning several debate tournaments. He ended up getting a full scholarship to attend duke law school. Where again he did very well. After graduating law school he became a practicing attorney. Back home in whittier california and met a high school teacher named thelma ryan who went by the name. Pat nixon was smitten and pursued her with the same dogged determination. He would demonstrate throughout his career. She turned him down several times but she finally relented they were married in one thousand nine hundred forty when nixon was twenty seven and she was twenty eight they would end up having two daughters tricia and julie also in those early years nixon had applied to work for the fbi who was about to be hired but budget cuts led to his appointment being cancelled when world war two broke out and applied for the navy where he was admitted as a lieutenant junior grade in the reserves when promoted to lieutenant he requested duty at sea and was sent to the south pacific where he worked on logistics. He received several commendations and resigned his commission when the war ended in nineteen forty six by then nixon had political ambitions. He was recruited by california republicans in nineteen forty-six to run against the incumbent. Congressman. jerry voorhis. He won the race and took office as the representative from california's twelfth district. Nixon took office during the start of the cold war. President harry s truman. As we covered in previous episodes was crafting. America's containment policy against the soviet union in the united states. There was a real fear of communist subversion and there was good reason for it communist spies were embedded in the us government including those who had relayed secrets about the atomic bomb to the soviets. Nixon began to make a name for himself. As a staunch anti-communist he cosponsored a bill that required the registration of all members of the communist party in the united states. Nixon worked to get it passed in the house. Although it failed in the senate the bill got nixon some publicity. He was assigned to the house committee on un-american it was here where nixon became a national figure he spearheaded an investigation into former state department official at this to examine allegations that he was a communist spy. His eventually was convicted of perjury. This case catapulted nixon onto the front pages of the newspapers. He ran for the. Us senate to represent california in nineteen fifty against congresswoman helen. Douglas nixon's campaign distributed a pink. Sheet that listed douglas's quote communist line foreign policy votes. The campaign was ugly and nixon's opponents accused him of red baiting. They labeled him tricky. Dick a nickname. That would follow him for the rest of his career. Nixon won the race and took his seat in nineteen fifty one as a senator nixon attack the true administration's policies as being soft on communism by nineteen fifty two the republicans had lost five straight presidential elections but it finally had a candidate with a chance of winning. He was one of the most popular americans alive. Dwight d eisenhower. By then is in howrah was the great hero of world. War two having commanded the successful invasion of normandy and served as the head of america's major alliance the north american treaty organization or nato eisenhower secured the nomination in a tight race. Richard nixon. not even forty years old was chosen to be his running mate. Eisenhower by then was in his early sixties old enough to be nixon's father. Nixon was selected for many reasons partly because his youth bounced. Eisenhower's age partly because his strong anticommunism would help appeal to conservatives especially since eisenhower was seen as more of a political moderate but there was also the benefit of having an attack dog like nixon on the ticket. Eisenhower preferred to remain above the fray. Not engaging in political attacks nixon on the other hand could hit hard against democrats and opponents allowing eisenhower to remain aloof during the campaign. A major controversy erupted where nixon was accused of having a slush fund. It's a fascinating episode in nick's life. One that nearly derailed his candidacy and perhaps his political career. We could probably spent a lot of time on this particular moment but that will have to be for another episode. Nixon did end up defending himself on national tv. Sixty million people watched the speech which was the largest television audience. Ever up to that time it would later be remembered as the checkers speech because nixon mentioned a dog named checkers that he and his family received as a gift. He ended up convincing. The american people of his innocence remained on the ticket. The incident showcase nixon's impressive. Survival skills in the political arena skills. He would use often in his career. That fall eisenhower. Won the presidency in a landslide and richard nixon at age forty became the vice president of the united states support for this podcast comes from pal. Small business owners. Turn your smartphone into a cash register pay pal. Qr codes or the safe and easy way to get paid in store and they deliver the same security and trust pay pal is known for online in person. Even if you're a cash only business with pay pal. 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G. Gordon Liddy, Watergate Mastermind, Has Died at Age 90
"And a radio talk show host after emerging from prison, died today at the age of 90. His son, Thomas Lady confirmed the death but did not reveal the cause of the event. To say it was not related to covet 19. Lady, a former FBI agent and army veteran, was convicted of conspiracy, burglary and illegal wiretapping for his role in the Watergate burglary, which led to the resignation of President Richard Nixon. Spent four years and four months in prison, including more than 100 days in solitary confinement. Years later, he said, he'd do it again for his president. After his release Lady became a popular, often provocative radio talk show, as you also worked as a security consultant, writer and actor, but he was outspoken and controversial, both as the political operative under Nixon and as a radio personality. Letty recommended assassinating political enemies, Bombing, a left leaning think tank and kidnapping war protesters. His White House colleagues ignored such suggestions. But one of his ventures, the break in at Democratic headquarters at the Watergate building in June of 1972 was approved. The burglary went awry, which led to an investigation a cover up and Nixon's resignation in 1974. Lydia, former FBI agent, An Army veteran, was convicted of conspiracy, burglary and illegal wiretapping for his role in the escapade. It was also convicted of conspiracy in the September 1971 burglary of defense analyst Daniel Ellsberg Psychiatrists who leaked the secret history of the Vietnam War known as the Pentagon papers. Watergate conspirator G. Gordon Liddy dead
G. Gordon Liddy, Watergate mastermind, dead at 90
"Hi Mike Rossi a reporting Watergate conspirator G. Gordon Liddy has died G. Gordon Liddy a key figure in the Watergate burglary that ultimately led to the resignation of president Richard Nixon died Tuesday he was ninety lady son Thomas lady confirmed the death but did not reveal the cause other than to say it was not coded nineteen related Liddy a former FBI agent and army veteran spent four years and four months in prison after being convicted of conspiracy burglary and illegal wire tapping for his role in the break in at democratic headquarters at the Watergate building in Washington in June nineteen seventy two lady went on to host a syndicated radio talk show wrote best selling books and acted in TV shows micron CEO Washington
Bangladesh Celebrates 50 Years of Independence
"This marks the fiftieth anniversary of the independence of bangladesh. The victory of bangladeshi forces over the occupying army of pakistan on twenty-sixth much nineteen seventy one. The independence of bangladesh was declared by the father of the nation. Bangabandhu sheikh mujibur him on now soon after independence henry kissinger he was us. President richard nixon's national security advisor kissinger called bangladesh. A basket case and the people of this south asian nation of about one hundred and sixty three million. Well i spent the better part of the next five decades refuting that label the look bangladesh. Today is booming achieved an average of five point. Five percent growth for more than a decade life expectancy also risen sharply from about forty five. Can you believe this. Forty five and nine hundred sixty to seventy two today and according to the un this month no longer should bangladesh be classified as a least developed country. It's
George P. Shultz, secretary of state under Reagan, dead at 100
"In the measure. Former Secretary of state George Shultz has died. He was 100, the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, says he passed away yesterday, Schulz served as the nation's chief diplomat during the Reagan administration. As secretary of state for Ronald Reagan. He played a major role in shaping the administration's foreign policy. He also served as Richard Nixon, secretary of Treasury. Secretary of Labor and was director of Nixon's office of Management and Budget. Schultz was one of only two individuals to serve in four
Decriminalizing The War On Drugs
"In the summer of nineteen seventy one president richard. Nixon declared a so-called. You're on drugs. But i consider this problem so urgent. I also found that it was scattered so much throughout the government with so much conflict without coordination that it had to be brought into the white house so that we have not only the responsibility but the authorities to see that we wages defensive effectively an coordinated way the goal was to curb the use of illicit substances by levying increased. Police presence classifying a number of drugs at the federal level and by making longer prison sentences. Mandatory for the use and distribution of narcotics nearing the fiftieth anniversary of that decision. The war on drugs is still very much alive. Millions of people have been incarcerated from windows policing and the advent of stop and frisk to no knock warrants and the militarization of local police departments. All of this born from the so called war on drugs and all have been used primarily target communities of color advocates for reform have long that punitive policies have not only failed to reduce the flow of drugs across the country but also strengthen illicit drug markets creating risky and unhealthy conditions for people who choose to use drugs. Meanwhile more than seventy thousand people died last year alone as a result of drug. Overdoses is clearly failing in the war on drugs and advocates. Say it's because we've gone about it completely. The wrong way by focusing on the criminal element of drug use instead of seeing it through the lens of healthcare access and social justice to talk about this issue. We're joined by muddied sep it is. Who's the director of the national affairs at the drug policy alliance in washington d. c. leads the organization's federal work to end the war on drugs. Mighty snap is welcome to letting you. usa inc you. I'm so excited to be here with you today. So recently a lot has been happening with drug decriminalization but before we get into that. Let's take a few steps back and you know. Set the picture for how we got to this place and this is a place where for example someone could be caught in possession of a small amount of marijuana and they could be sentenced to spend the rest of their life in prison in some parts of the country. Still yes sadly. That's the case. Drug enforcement continues to be a driver of mass incarceration. In fact one person is arrested every twenty three seconds for simple drug possession so it continues to be a a big feeder into not just the criminal justice system but you have to think of all of the collateral consequences for instance a conviction can make it harder for you to put your life back on track to go to school to obtain even get a job in the first place to keep a roof over your head to feed your family so it continues to be something. That is a huge detriment. In a lot of people's lives many drugs that are illegal today such as marijuana opium coca psychedelics if unused for thousands of years for both medical and spiritual purposes but we also know that this country has a long history of pech waiting racialized drug war. I think something that a lot of people might not know is that the first anti-drug laws in the united states were actually built specifically to criminalize people of color. Starting with the eighteen seventies we saw laws targeting chinese immigrants in california. This is the first time we saw anti opium laws pop around. Are you saying that basically opium was around and used once you had the arrival of men and women from china who were actually working on the railroad that that's when it becomes a problem. Yeah so what. We started to see around. the eighteen. Hundreds was that anti drug laws started to pop up. Civically created to target certain communities of color and the eighteen seventies saw the rise of the first anti-drug laws in those drugs were anti opium laws that were targeted at chinese immigrants. Soon after that in the nineteen hundreds in the south we saw that mccain became illegal in that was related target african american men Who were using the substance and then of course in the nineteen thirties. That mexican mexican americans were criminalised for marijuana use. Of course you know when we talk about. Marijuana can't ignore the fact that marijuana itself was a term that was developed to criminalise mexican americans and mexicans who were who were using the plant and this happened with the first individual who was responsible for drug enforcement in the us but these were all intentional decisions by the government to criminalise communities of color to really dejected. People who were not wanted in the society and you know unfortunately those policy decisions still play out today because drug use continues to be something that there is a lot of hysteria around and people of color continued to be disproportionately enforced for drug use and drug activity even though all the data tells us that black and brown individuals use drugs at similar rates and sometimes even lower rates than white individuals.
'The King of Talk': Remembering Larry King
"Larry King has died. He was 87 in a career that spanned 60 years. Larry King interviewed just about everybody. Reporter Jeff Lunden has this appreciation. With his trademark suspenders and his deep baritone voice tinged with a Brooklyn accent. Larry King spoke with Presidents George Bush is our honored guest for the full hour. Next on Larry King Live World leaders Moammar Qaddafi. The leader of the nation of Libya, celebrities, the brilliant Barbra Streisand, authors, scientists, comedians, athletes and on and on and on. I'm always engrossed in the guest. Larry King spoke with Jesse Thorn on the turnaround podcast in 2017. I'm always listening to the answer. I'm always learning, So I guess I'm better every day at learning. The Brooklyn born King actually was an indifferent student, but said he always had an innate curiosity when we would go to dodge it. All my friends wanted autographs at the injury. I never asked for an autograph, but I would walk with the players is they're going to their cars asking questions. Why'd you bunt? Why they do this in the third inning. My curiosity is still insatiable. King began his career is a DJ in Miami, and it's where he got his name is well. When a station manager told him his given surname, Zeiger was too ethnic. He chose King from a liquor ad in a newspaper. By the late 19 seventies, King had an overnight talk show on national radio. Then the 1985 Ted Turner hired him for his new network, CNN. Media commentator and author. Bill Carter, who's a CNN contributor, says the timing was perfect. Picking up something like Larry King may love sense because he had Establish himself kind of as a guy who could get big guests. They could have big names and promoted and became sort of the linchpin of their prime time lineup, and King stayed there for 25 years. Some critics complained that he was too chummy with celebrities and lob softball questions. It is guests. His strategy was I'm never gonna make the guests uncomfortable. And that means not only will they come back, but they'll tell their friends. He won't ask you about that ugly divorce of yours. You know, he'll ask you about your favorite movie, so he didn't challenge people, But he did get information. He was pretty good at that, like when he talked with ex President Richard Nixon. Well, I don't want to dwell in the Watergate thing that's been covered so well. But some personal things when you drive by Those collections of buildings. The hotel the two apartment houses the office building, You feel weird, funny. No, I never give it a thought. Never given a thought. Never given a thought. That's one place where you just don't look back. As far as Watergate is. I know you don't look up at the buildings themselves. Not at all. Not a matter of fact, I've never been in the Watergate. Larry King famously didn't do a lot of preparation before his interviews, the less I know. Better Now, That sounds strange to people. Like If you wrote a book. I wouldn't read the book for interview do because I would then know too much about the book and I'm in the same boat as the audience. They haven't read the book, but King knew the national zeitgeist. He covered the first O. J. Simpson trial every night, says Bill Carter. He basically started the cable monomania move. We're going to just cover this story. That's it In a way. It was perfect for life because it was celebrity oriented. It was in the news, but it was not political. Ultimately, CNN canceled King show because it wasn't political competition from Fox and MSNBC took its toll on the ratings. But King was a survivor. He was married eight times and had Quinn couple bypass surgery after a massive heart attack, and King took his talk show to streaming video and kept on working for NPR news. I'm Jeff Lunden in New York.
The Timothy Leary Conviction
"On january twenty first nineteen seventy former harvard professor and so called priest of lsd timothy. Leary was sentenced to ten years in prison on drug smuggling charges but in september of that year. The fifty year-old academic broke out of a san luis obispo facility with the help of the weatherman. The daring escape only added to the mystique of the man president. Nixon wants declared the most dangerous man in america. But just what made leery so dangerous. Well it might not surprise you. That richard nixon may have been exaggerating for his own political game according to authors. Bill minna tag. Leo and stephen l davis nixon's advisors suggested he find a public enemy to distract the public from his own flagging approval rating the war in vietnam and the struggling economy. They leary a prominent figure in the counterculture movement and because the former professor was a proud exponent of hallucinogenic drug use. The president's ir fit right in with his war on drugs narrative timothy leary was something of a self appointed spokesperson for the benefits of drug use. Which heat enjoyed since one thousand nine hundred sixty after an experimental magic mushrooms trip. The already noted psychologist became excited about the possibilities. Mushrooms and similar drugs had on the human brain during his tenure. At harvard he conducted academic experiments on the effects of hallucinogens. Drawing the attention and admiration of other notable nineteen sixties figures famed authors. Like gin berg and jack kerouac willingly participated in leary's experiments and it was perhaps their involvement that catapulted the professor onto the national stage before long leary was touring the country speaking about his research and reportedly brushing up against the rich and famous inevitably a backlash arrived. Leary's teaching colleagues criticized his experimentation with lsd. They believed research of that. Nature should be left to medical doctors not psychologists meanwhile psychology experts who once lauded leary's earlier work now made it clear that his drug centered experiments were less praiseworthy. Despite these blows leary insisted that taking lsd was quote a sacramental ritual one that could expand human consciousness. Harvard university did not agree and fired him in nineteen sixty three but by that stage leary had a new life. He was a counterculture touchstone for the masses and a legitimizing scientific voice in the pro drug movement. He rubbed shoulders with marilyn monroe and sang with john. Lennon and yoko ono in short he was a powerful voice advocating for drug use throughout the nineteen sixties. He even appeared before a senate committee to argue in favor of legislation. That would make it legal for adults to use hallucinogenic drugs. So when richard. Nixon assumed the presidency in nineteen sixty nine leary was squarely in his sights. Ostensibly nixon wanted to eliminate drug use in the country. Leary very much did not. That made him dangerous. So it's little surprise that when leary's appeal of his nineteen sixty five drug-smuggling conviction was overturned. The government wanted a second bite at the apple but any joy nixon and his cabinet might have felt in putting leary. Away was short lived using his network of contacts. The former professor escaped prison remaining on the run until nineteen seventy three when he was detained in afghanistan and sent back to the united states. There he was jailed in the notorious folsom. Prison and briefly befriended charles manson and though his sentence was for ten years leary was paroled in nineteen. Seventy six having served just three. It's a surprising twist day given that so many drug offenders imprisoned for decades on similar offenses then again timothy leary was famous and white which might have had something to do with his early release
Biden invites Pence to inauguration
"I just heard it the top of the news and I already knew this. President Trump is not going to the inauguration of Joe Biden. I just I think that's sad, but under the circumstances now as the what happened I don't know. Maybe it's a good thing. But Mike Pence vice President Mike Pence, who Donald Trump through under the bus through under the bus badly this week. You know Pence you talk about a loyal vice president and he just gets thrown under the bus because he wouldn't go along with that cockamamie scheme. On the electors. I had thought and I had thought until I just heard that that Mike Pence. It already said he's going to president Binds inauguration and Mr Vice President, Please, please, Please go to that inauguration. You know, up Until this election, our country was known for the orderly transition of power. Other countries. Look to us for that. So we're not gonna have the president? I sure as hell hope we have the vice president. And would it be hard? Hell, yeah, it would be hard. You know, as a student history, I watch clips of 1960. When JFK was sworn in, he lost to Nixon and an extremely close election. 100,000 votes throughout the whole country. Nixon was Vice President Nixon had to sit there and watch that happen. You know that the prince of darkness himself, Richard Nixon did it with grace and did it with honor the same thing for Al Gore in the year 2000. He lost to George W. Bush. He went to George W. Bush's inauguration with class and dignity. So, Mr Vice President, please attend the inauguration, please.
Interview With Dr Bradley Onishi
"I listen to several podcasts. Every week and it is especially a thrill. When i can bring onto host of one of the podcasts that i listen to on a regular basis because i feel like i know this person already but we've never had a conversation in this case. It's actor bradley. She he's the associate professor of religion at skidmore college. Which i look where that was bred as like you must be snowed in spirit man. I'm here in southern california for california boy whose deaths from maui. This is not my native environment so well a little bit of your background. You actually went to zoos. The pacific university. Which is right down the road from where i live where you got your be in philosophy and always wonder you know when a undergraduate majors flossy where they planning to end up. You ended up getting a master's in philosophical theology at oxford. And then you did. Some time in france doing postgraduate work in philosophy. And then finally you finish up at the university of california. Santa barbara doing your piece de and religious studies. I just want. It's tell my listeners. If you ever enjoy some of the conversations i get into on this podcast. With my guest that crosses over into this post evangelical political sort of realm. The person feeding me. Most of my information is now my guest on the show. That's kind now thank you. That's flattering thank you can. Let's start with your story. Because i think what set you up. Not just as an academic to have such a substantive take on what's been going on during the trump years before trump years where we're going to go after the trump years is also not just rooted in your research but it's it's based in your own life so tell us a little bit about that. Yeah i let me just say thank you for that flattering introduction and just. It's it's an honor to be here. So i've been looking forward to this for a long time and i'm really grateful so you know for me i. I grew up in north orange county. My father's japanese-american my mother's white woman from tennessee. And they met in the middle He's from hawaii and we grew up. Your belinda placentia fullerton area. I did not grow up religious. My dad was was culturally. Buddhist is what i would say he. He mowed the lawn. At the buddhist temple on maui in inkatha louis he. He went to japanese school there. But when i was thirteen and ask them about what it meant to be a buddhist to give me a book and i read it and i thought after i read it he would discuss it and i realized later. He gave it to me because he didn't know anything that was in it. He just didn't want to have me ask questions about what it meant to be a buddhist at fourteen. I had a very extreme conversion at a evangelical mega church and a conversion meant that i went from the kid who was hanging out with other teenagers behind the movie theater. Smoking and drinking and doing that kind of stuff to within months standing in front of the movie theater asking people if they knew my savior the lord. Jesus christ and if they knew where their so would be return ity. Tell us a little bit about how that dramatic conversion took place. I was invited to wednesday night. Bible study at rose drive friends church. rose drive is part of that network of quaker churches that richard nixon grew up in so i i was invited to that church by a girlfriend and i thought you know i'm fourteen. There's not a lot of ways to see your girlfriend on a with night off to pragmatist and there's no way mom can say no to this. If i want to go to church she's gonna say yes. So let's do it. This is a great plan She dumped me very quickly but that youth group became my second home. I found there what you would find in the ninety s at youth groups all over the place. Young cool hip leaders. They had tattoos. They played the guitar. We have a lot of fun games. The bible messages weren't boring and all of a sudden the existential angst. I had about the meaning of life and the depression that i faced throughout my entire childhood. I found answers found solutions to my condition. In jesus in god and so a very quickly i went from a kid probably hanging around folks who are going down the wrong direction drugs and alcohol and other stuff too when my mom asked me what i wanted for christmas on my When i was sixteen. I asked her how much she was gonna spend. She told me i said mom. I want you to give me that money. And i'm going to buy as many pamphlets and tracts and bibles as i can for people in nepal and i'm going to send them there because that's what's important and that's why how we should be using our money. Now i gotta ask you bread. Did your parents on the one hand. I'm sure they're going well. This is nice. He's not hanging around with those bad people anymore. The water bozos right. Okay right these these these yoga right but but at the same time is dislike. Did our son just joined a cult. So it's exactly what you said. For mom. there was times. I think she was relieved. But you know when your son is saying. Hey i don't buy me letterman's jacket for the basketball team. Send the money to nepal for bibles. I think she kinda wish. I was back to the guy getting caught with the kid. Smoking pot again. I mean she was kind of like. This is a little extreme. It was a lot harder for my dad. My dad's japanese-american guy. He grew up in the cradle of asian american. You know Communities on maui. His life was in the buddhist temple even though he he really didn't wasn't a practicing buddhist so for me to join a mega church especially church. That was ninety percent. White was really hard for him and it took a lot of convincing to let me go to the wednesday night. Bible study or the retreat or the youth group party or whatever.
"richard nixon" Discussed on Everything Everywhere Daily
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"richard nixon" Discussed on Everything Everywhere Daily
"They received a phone call from the president of the united states. Richard nixon for purposes. That will soon become obvious. I'd like to play the entire clip free now and don't worry it's not very long. Neyland buzz i talked to you from the oval room at the line house and it certainly has to be historic telephone. Call ever made from the white house. I just can't tell you how proud we all are what you have done for every american. This has to be the proudest day of our lives and for people all over the world. I am sure that they to join with americans and recognizing what an immense feet. This is because of what you have done. The heavens have become a part of man's world and as you talk to us from the c. a. tranquillity. It inspires us to redouble our efforts to bring peace and tranquility to earth for one priceless moment and the whole history of man. All the people on this earth are truly one one in their pride in what you've done and one in our prayers that you will return safely to earth. The call caused some controversy. People objected to using the moment to put the emphasis on a political leader. Democrats are upset because nixon had only been president a few months and most of the apollo program had been developed under the kennedy and johnson administrations nonetheless. The controversy was rather minor ends soon. Forgotten the speech however wasn't the only speech that was prepared in the lead up to apollo eleven the nixon administration was thinking about what they should say in their phone call to the astronauts. Nixon speechwriter. william safire was contacted by an astronaut and was warned about something that they should be prepared for in a new york times article in one thousand nine hundred nine where sapphire was a columnist for years. He wrote quote frank. Our liaison with the astronauts brought the image making up. You wanna be thinking of some alternative posture for the president. In the event of mishaps the blank looks at this techno jargon he added like what to do for the widows suddenly we were faced with the dark side of the moon. Planning death if it came would not come terrible of glory. The greatest danger was that the two astronauts once on the moon would not be able to return to the command module in that event with no rescue possible the men would have to bid the world farewell and closed down communication preparatory to suicide or starvation. It would hardly advance the cause of space exploration to force a half a billion viewers and listeners to participate in the agony of their demise. I prepared inappropriate statement about men who came in peace and stayed to rest in peace holding it in my desk drawer in case of tragedy unquote fire wrote the speech but never submitted after nixon left office. The speech was sent with other documents to the national archive years later. Safire wrote about his role in the apollo eleven landing in how he wrote the plaque which the astronauts left on the moon. The speech he wrote in the event of a disaster was found and widely circulated fast forward to the year twenty twenty a team of researchers at mit working on artificial intelligence and the ability to create deepfakes deepfakes videos..
Biden, Harris are Time's 2020 'Person of the Year'
"Go from here. That's the colossal question. Before president-elect joe biden who was named times person of the year along with vice president elect kamala harris. He's not the first person of the year to be tasked with the future of america. Almost every u s president since the franchise began in nineteen twenty. Eight has been named person of the year at least once excluding calvin coolidge. Herbert hoover and gerald ford but biden is likely the first in a generation to inherit such a crescendo of course trophies. A worsening pandemic that's brought a staggering loss of life widespread unemployment and an economic crisis a global climate crisis a reckoning over the continued pervasiveness of systemic racism and growing misinformation blurring fact and fiction during an interview with time editor in chief and ceo. Edward felsen thal at queens theatre in wilmington delaware. The president-elect discussed his partnership with harris the coming covid nineteen vaccine rollout. His thoughts on pardons and more here are excerpts. From biden's interview edited for clarity on restoring america's middle class if my plan is able to be implemented whole plan. I think it's going to go down as one of the most progressive administrations in american history. We've lost the idea that when ordinary people do well. Everybody does better. It's important that we focus on the things that provide opportunity pardoning donald trump. my justice department will make decisions based on the facts there. The people's lawyers. They're not my lawyers. I'm never going to pick up the phone. And say pardon so. And so or go out and prosecute so. And so. But i lived through gerald ford's pardoning of richard nixon. I think that the law and the circumstance should take its effect. I'm not suggesting. Trumpy prosecuted. Or not. But i would not be engaged in that prematurely. How the pandemic has changed him and us. What's been reinforced is my absolute commitment. That everyone is entitled to health care. It's not about whether or not it's a privilege it's a right. We're the only country in the world that has come out of every crisis stronger than we went into the crisis. I predict we will come out of this crisis stronger than when we went in finding vaccine. Hesitancy the words of a president matter. Whether they're good. Presidents are bad. They matter i joined the three presidents who said they would be publicly vaccinated because i think people will realize that we have to reinstate confidence that science is real if someone with the reputation of anthony fauci and the leading scientists of the country said this vaccine works they should take choosing kamala harris. She is straight as an arrow. She is really really bright. She is tough but yet she has a heart. That understands what it's like to be on the other side of prejudice. She also was an immigrant's daughter who was raised in a strange way like i was. We were taught that we could be anything. Don't give up just move. Keep pushing. And i just found her to be someone who. If in fact something happened to me i knew they could take over. That's kamla
Bob Glazer on the Importance of Putting Principles & Values Over Issues & Rules
"Bob man. I'm so excited that you here. Welcome dose of leadership. thanks richard. i'm glad i may work. Yeah me too crazy times elections over. Yeah kobe's is ramping up. Thank god thank. God believes that i think i think so too. I think there's I don't know for me. I think i lean more libertarian. And conservative and i'm not a fan of one of them wasn't but i i don't know i think it's kind of a best case scenario. Most where you if you get a republican senate and you got biden in now people can have to work for it right so i'm kind of happy for inert administration mark forces people to have to compromise this sort of approach of like up. It's our way time to punish in. You know you know get reprimands for reagan for. It's like no one knows who started it. We're going to do this because you did i. I mean there's gotta be some things that everyone can can agree on. And yeah i agree. I hope i hope that Over works out that people will just start to come together a little bit. I mean someone was telling me that like ronald reagan. Won forty nine states was reminding me of that and i was like i. I would never happen in my lifetime again. Forty nine states and he did and I don't know you know i. It is funny. How who else not funny. But i mean we've all talked about nauseam. How how the divisive everything is. But i think is particularly talking leadership you know the the obligations that we have you know. We were talking pre recording. That i encourage because i got a pretty diverse mastermind group with all political spectrums. Kind of reminds me when i looked back at my parents. They had this circle of friends and almost all of them have passed away but they were all newly married in the late fifties early sixties. I mean you had you know. Jfk democrats you had richard nixon republicans. You had catholics yet. Protestants yet Jews and they all twelve six couples and they did live together with my point. They always played bridge when cards. They would get together once a month but they did live together and they would argue about politics and kind of ribbing sort of way but they loved each other and that's what seems to be missing in all of this right. I don't know how we can get back to that kind of ideal like where my parents in their friends where they didn't talk. Politics didn't rule their lives and it seems like politics. Lose everything right. I mean funny. In that case politics was probably knocked the threat right it was. Oh these are good decent hard-working people who share sharon values. And and and you know. I just think we're moving from look. Leadership is a very values based thing rang moving from you know values to sort of just hard lines that can't can't be cross And and yeah it to me. It's just we're just ruining objectivity and it's insulting people's intelligence it's like black and black white isn't wait. I don't mean in the racial sense. I mean we all used agree like that's a circle. That's where and now like these things are. Just you know it's a it's if if one side looking at it it's not a square and if the other side looking at it circle and i to me like critical thinking like a really important skill and it's just it's degrading or i don't know where it's going critical thinking certainly has suffered and I don't know. And i think back if you know looking back to when my parents were newly married like said in that kind of jfk era. Yeah i mean the you you mentioned values and principles and i think that's what's missing. There is a shared value. You know even if you were democrat or republican red or blue or whatever. The there was a hierarchy. Now simple low. They precipitate low it. That's right that that is that is. That's what's worrisome to me and look at massachusetts right so we were one of those one the state. that didn't vote for ronald reagan. Wherever pretty blu ray. We've republican governor right now with a eighty five percent approval rating like. He's done a really good job on covid he's been out in front. Like people are judging him on his on his merits. And what he's done. And i think if you know if we were in the you know we we got hurt early on but you know. He's a conservative also worked in the health industry so he had interesting balance like if we were one of the worst states in the country i think people would be more upset right and again that to me is out rightful leadership issue. Not a political issue in this notion of how leadership in politics have gotten. Totally intertwined is fascinates. Me i. it's it's interesting
Michael Flynn: Trump pardons ex-national security adviser
"Former. Us national security adviser. Michael flynn who was convicted during the justice department inquiry into alleged russian interference in the two thousand sixteen election has been pardoned by president. Donald trump trump called his own action. A great honor whilst house speaker. Nancy pelosi called it an act of grave corruption and abrazen brazen abuse of power. Well which is it. And what kind of precedent does it set. Let's get the opinion of scott lucas professor of us. Politics at the university of birmingham scott. Good morning to you. Good morning do remind us of flynn's short-lived term. I think it was just three weeks in the white house. Well while it was only three weeks in the white house there was an import run up to the while he was on the trump campaign in two thousand sixteen. Because michael. Flynn lied to the fbi on two occasions and pleaded implied pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi about a number of conversations. He had with the russian ambassador. Sergei kislyak and december two thousand sixteen. Why were those conversations important because they were about an incoming trump administration lifting sanctions on russia. That had just been imposed by president. Barack obama over moscow's interference in the two thousand sixteen election and interference which of course favoured donald trump. So the was that that michael flynn on behalf of the trump campaign or trump transition was trading immediate political favors in exchange for russia's help The initially the trump administration tried to keep planning office in january february two thousand and seventeen but he had to be sacrificed trump's trying to create a firewall to prevent further investigation. That investigation didn't stop of course accommodated in the miller report which found that there was cooperation between the trump folks and the russians but the right wing insisted and kept pressing trump. You must pardon. Michael flynn he became like this icon for the misinformation that this was all a deep state plot to overthrow the president and we do at some point. That trump would probably pardon fled. It just so happens to come. Easy as trump is trying to cling onto the white house after losing the election in november. We'll see what kind of precedent does this set. I mean do you think that we'll see trump do similar in this. Lame duck period. Oh yeah i think there will be more. And i think that's for a couple of reasons but first let me remind you. That is not just that michael. Flynn actually lied to the fbi about the russia case. It's also that michael flood may have faced prosecution over being an unregistered agent for a foreign power. Taking hundreds of thousands of dollars shrunk turkey and russia for his work while he was on the trump campaign to the extent of making on voice of the turkish government. About extraditing a cleric who is considered an opponent of president aired on And that michael. Flynn was making more money of trying to get nuclear power plants for saudi arabia while he was on the trump campaign and the trump administration In other words trump is willing to give flint a pass for that for two reasons. One he wants to bury the trump russia a fair and trump still faces possible charges over obstruction of justice over trump russia. And secondly michael. Flynn could testify against donald trump in a number of proceedings that are ongoing at state and federal level. Trump wants to cut off that possibility. But you know what michael not. The only person who could testify against donald trump avoid that possibility and of course after trump's term ends in january. He is as you say likely to face. Many legal challenges is there any way he can preemptively. Pardon himself no. We don't think so. I mean no president has tried to pardon himself so we're on noodle legal ground but mostly glands say no that power can't be used to get yourself off the hook what donald trump could do however days before january twentieth. Joe biden takes office resign. Let mike pence become president mike pence pardons donald trump. That is an extraordinary scenario to to think of if it didn't happen in the interest of a united america do you think joe biden might pardon trump if he is convicted. I don't think biden will pardon trump because the scale of the abuse of power by trump as well as the possible crimes is is great probably greater than that of richard nixon in the nineteen seventies. But i what. I do think joe biden will do as is that he will not possibly. He will not push the justice department To do federal investigations in other words. Trump is in sort of a limbo but of lambeau at the federal level. However what joe biden can't do is issue commands to the new york state prosecutors who were compiling a series of cases against what would then be the former president and i mean. Do you seriously think that we could be looking at a feature where donald trump is behind bars. Look georgina there are many things that have happened. We could not visit for years. So i i wouldn't rule anything out at this point. I think donald trump's gonna go kicking and screaming and he as we've seen with his dispute of the election results. His attorneys will drive this out as long as possible. So trump might avoid prison but to avoid prosecution. Now i think even the donald can't get away with that scott lakers. Thanks very much
Challenges Await Next Treasury Head
"Former federal reserve chair janet yellen has been at the forefront of us economic policy for decades. If she's confirmed as treasury secretary she'll be taking on a new role during a time of deep political division and significant economic challenges. Joining me now to talk more about yellen's career and the roadblocks she could face going forward his wall street journal senior writer john hills and wrath. Hi john thanks for being here her. They're great to be here. So john janet yellen if confirmed would make history here as the first woman to lead the treasury after also being the first woman to lead the federal reserve. Tell us more about her extensive resume and what's led up to this moment. I don't think that's the big history being made here. The big history is that she's the first human regardless of gender to be treasury secretary chairman of the council of economic advisers and federal reserve chairwoman. So she's had a tri factor. If you add in the fact that she's also a tenured professor from berkeley then. She's hit a grand slam. This is an achievement that no person regardless of gender has achieved and the realm of economic policy. Making you know. I compare her to george shultz the republican. Who served as secretary of state for ronald reagan and also treasury secretary secretary of labor and director of management budget under richard nixon. This is just a person with about as complete resumes. You can get so. Let's talk a little bit about her previous roles as opposed to what treasury secretary rigby much less political role than treasury secretary. What about her past experiences in washington have prepared her for that. And where might we see some challenges if for her taking on a more political role. The fed is a very close in academic place. They kind of pride themselves on not getting into the mix of political debates and being. I wouldn't even say bipartisan. But eighty partisan nonpartisan. Janet yellen did serve as the chair of the council of economic advisers in the clinton administration in the late nineteen ninety s so. She has had exposure to political debates with big personalities. It's interesting though. She's married to george echo off. Who is a nobel prize winning economist in his own right and when he won the nobel prize back in two thousand and one he wrote in his autobiography about the challenges that she faced kind of managing the point ical heat waves of washington the role. He played in supporting her so she's walking in to an environment right now. That is going to be very heated in very point ical. There's gonna be a lot of fights over how much spending the government should do to get the economy out of recession and how much debt it should take on in the process. And she's going to be right in the middle of it. She's a very highly credentialed individual. And i think our challenge is going to be managing the human part of it the political part of it with republicans on capitol hill and the inevitable divisions that are gonna show up inside the biden administration itself. How do you think she will work with congress. She has support among democrats and republicans. Well you know. She knows her way around washington. That's clear and as fed chair. She did have to deal with congress. She had to go up there and testify on a regular basis to give reports on the economy and monetary policy and regulatory policy. So she knows her way around capitol hill one of the reasons that i think that president elect biden chose her is a because it does seem like she's going to have buy in from the progressive wing of the democratic party. She's actually very close to elizabeth warren and also moderates among democrats and then i would say she has a chance with some moderate republicans to try to win them over republicans in the senate in particular to try to win them over on some big debates. And that's where. I think she's going to end up focusing a lot of her attention. You know if she can hold the democratic party if i should say biden can and then win a couple of middle of the road republicans than they might be able to get their way on really big questions about fiscal policy and stimulus and driving this economy out of recession. That was really devastating and twenty twenty and that brings us to some of the key challenges. What do you think some of her first actions will be treasury secretary. And what are those big challenges. She'll be facing from the start. There's so much and this is one of the issues where the job. The treasury is much different than the job at the fed. The job at the fed comes down to two or three things. They gotta make a decision. Every eight weeks about whether interest rates should stay the same or go up a little or go down a little. And then they've got to be they're very involved in the regulation and oversight of banks and then they've got to be ready to deal with crises financial crises at the treasure. You have the tax portfolio you have sanctioned portfolio with international sanctions against countries like north korea and iran. You have the debt portfolio. You have some say in the budget. Portfolio is just a very wide and expansive portfolio. I think the first thing that she's going to confront is a decision that her predecessor will have made. Steven mnuchin called on the fed just a few days ago to end some rescue programs that were aimed at small and medium-sized businesses related to corona virus. The treasury had been designated some money to contribute to the fed program and secretary mnuchin said. The program had expired in the feds gutter return. What's left of the money but you know the new treasury secretary is going to have to decide whether the end that program as mnuchin has set out to do or renew it when that gets to the bigger issue. which is the economy itself. Is it a major crossroads right now. We had a devastating downturn the economy effectively shut in march and april it reopened. We had a very large bounce back in the summer. But it shows signs of slowing. And it's incomplete this recovery at a time when the corona virus is spreading again. Some states are putting in new restrictions on economic activity and there is a race for a vaccine to control the virus. So there's just so much happening right now and it's gonna be yelling role to guide. President elect biden on how hard the government should push to help the economy through a period where it can go one of two directions. It could go back into recession. Or if we get to vaccine quickly enough we could be into. You know a really strong extension of the recovery that we had earlier this summer. So there's just a lot of uncertainty and a lot hard choices to
Donald Trump's disregard for our transition rituals threatens democracy
"Have you noticed. This is not normal. The president openly trying to say only the votes for him should count talking about sailing election. No legal path to succeed. We've been reporting on how those michigan republicans were welcomed at the white house after being shamed in their own home state for what they were doing. And donald trump is also taking petty moves that basically delay or mess with aspects of the transition. They won't mess with the transfer of power. All of this. We want to show tonight with. The evidence is a radical break from a longstanding. Bipartisan approach to the peaceful transfer of power in america that look forward to talking to the president so honored that he was attended with hospitality to me. And my wife. Yesterday didn't need to do this. And i am most grateful that He would do so good morning last night. I had a warm conversation with president. Elect barack obama. I congratulated him and senator biden on their impressive. Victory told the president-elect he can count on complete cooperation for my administration as he makes the transition to the white house. My number one priority. In the coming two months is to try to facilitate a transition that ensures dental is successful. We turned presidential historian. Michael beschloss what contrast you see from there to now well once again are a donald trump tonight as a category of his own. Go all the way back to john adams who lost to the guy who was at that time as you know his political enemy. Thomas jefferson. Adams was angry about being defeated by jefferson. And he didn't hang around for the inauguration that tradition adopted established yet so adams got an a stage coach and went back to massachusetts before jefferson was born in but it began this tradition. That even when you have an incumbent president who is angry at the guy who beat him for reelection. Herbert hoover in one thousand nine hundred ninety three and franklin roosevelt over to the white house to talk about how they should transfer power even when they rolled up to the capital roosevelt and hoover sat in the back of an open car. They shared a lap robe. If you could believe it didn't talk much. But that's a tradition. And as you say the tradition is running alongside both the rules constitutional requirements and the norms that much abuse a framework or term in the last four years That provide a buffer a provide a context all this. We just showed the outgoing president's michael stays with us. We want to show michael. And our viewers the other cases where we have seen the candidates as mentioned who lost just conceding with some eye on their place in history john mccain making what for him was a painful concession to barack obama in two thousand and eight hillary clinton in that loss that shocked so many including many in the republican party. She got up the next morning and gave that speech pledging cooperation to president-elect trump and sixteen we've seen presidents who lost reelection like trump did face the music the people of the united states that made the choice and of course. I accept that decision. But i have to admit not with the same enthusiasm that i accepted the decision for years ago. People have spoken. And we respect the majesty of the democratic system. I just called governor clinton over in little rock and offered my congratulations. he did run a strong campaign. I wish him well in the white house. You know michael you deal with facts and evidence you have a rigorous process between where you start and publishing one of your history books. How do you measure class. Because what i see there is something. That's hard to prove. But i feel it inside which is across ideology in parties. We've just seen many different presidents showing a type of class or even grace that is absent right now at the white house. We're going to ari. I've got two sons who are now in their twenties but they used to play a little league and every time they played a game even if they lost they would shake hands with the winning team and say good game. That was assumed this. That's that's american. What is not. American is to claim when you didn't win to be a poor loser you try to be out of keeping with the tradition of all those guys you just showed even richard nixon who is not thought of in history as a particularly gracious winner. Nineteen sixty gets beaten by john kennedy. He was very angry about it and it was very sad about it but he goes out and tells us supporters in los angeles in america. Once a decision is made we unite behind the candidate who was elected that was even before the final results were. Yeah that's great a great example. You're given off as we say off the top of the dome michael We have one more for you. And that is al gore. Who did have this tight legal challenge. Everyone remembers frustrating. For both sides in the run up to it and then of course frustrating for the person losing so narrowly having won more votes overall total across america. Al gore take a look now the. Us supreme court has spoken. Let there be no doubt while. I strongly disagree with the court's decision. I accept it. I accept the finality of this outcome. Which will be ratified next monday. In the electoral college and tonight for the sake of our unity as a people and strength of our democracy. I offer my concession. If i may be a little optimistic here at the end of the week michael ask you to guide us. What would you as someone who cares deeply about america. What would you tell citizens both parties neither party whatever. What is incumbent upon the rest of us to do if we never get that concession from this president. What do we do from here together. We just say the. Donald trump is a gross aberration. Get him out out the door. The door doesn't hit him on the way out on the twentieth of january and say we demand our leaders that they do. What all those other candidates that you show tonight did show some graciousness and understand that democracy is more important. Listen to what al gore said. He didn't say. I agree with the supreme court decision in bush v gore. He says for the sake of our democracy. I offer my concession. Most canada's most presidents love democracy want to unite the country. Donald trump is a gross aberration and exception to that tradition. Soon he'll be gone. Michael beschloss gets the word on that. Thank you sir.
Fact from fiction
"Welcome to kits myths and mysteries. I'm your host kit chrome today. Were talking about the not the mystery of politics. That's too big but the mystery of the post truth era in twenty sixteen. The oxford dictionary named post truth as their word of the year post truth refers to blatant lies being routine cross society and it means so politicians can lie without condemnation. This is different from the cliche that all politicians lie and make promises. They have no intention of keeping when president. Richard nixon lied. It was greeted with outrage now. It would seem that we would just shrug off the lies still. Why do we accept lies. Some would claim that we are raised to believe our parents teachers and the politicians represent that bigger than life image but it goes beyond that there was a study that showed vaccines caused autism. However the researcher in this study lostis licensed there was no real study and there is absolutely overwhelming research since then that shows without a doubt that. There's absolutely no link between vaccines and autism. Yet you might hear regardless it's still my personal rights parent to make decisions for my child. This is an example of a debate. That begins with a testable factual statement. But then when the truth becomes inconvenient the person takes flight from the facts. The masses to believe would conveniently validates our bias and their belief system. All this begs the question. how are people swayed. Certainly we all seek some kind of validation for something like when the mechanic rebuilds the car engine and it purrs like a kitten. There's the validation or the carpenter builds a house in the occupants. Just love it validation but it goes beyond that when the news show riots in the street and you wonder how widespread the violence could be an a candidate points out. Any number of civil unrest protests comes out with the claim of being a law and order candidate. Well your question about the amount of street. Violence is answered. And of course you will favor the law and order candidate but unknowingly on a false premise. Remember that one explanation for believing a lie comes from our upbringing where we believe our parents teachers as someone someone that would seems smarter than we are because of their knowledge appear larger than life. We tend to believe what they say. And if they allay our fears or validate our beliefs. Then we believe them all the more but how politicians school about the public in such a large scale. It's called gas lighting. I mentioned this before. Gas lighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or group covertly sows seeds of doubt in a targeted group. Making them question their own memory perception or judgment often evoking in them. Cognitive dissonance and other changes using misdirection contradiction. And this information so exactly. How do you protect yourself. I don't believe everything you think. Second ply deductive reasoning and third practice critical thinking. Well there you have it host truth. Post truth
Donald Trump Is Still not Conceding To The Election Results
"Donald trump is still refusing to concede after losing the us election and is insisting that he won citing baseless claims of voter fraud. He's backed up by most of his republican party and together. They're ignoring the will of the people the very foundation of democracy brian classes and associate professor in global politics at ucla and a columnist for the washington post and has written extensively on these subjects. Brian is this aku. no it's not. And the reason for that is because a coup has a very specific definition. Which is a seizure of executive power by military force. And that's not likely to happen in the united states but it is potentially going to be something where the republican party and trump are attempting to seize power after. They've lost an election which is extraordinarily dangerous for democracy. And even though it's not easy to succeed in it is. I mean there joe biden. We'll get inaugurated on january twentieth. The amount of damage is doing in faith in the democratic institutions and the democratic process of the united states enormous. And so we shouldn't take lightly i mean. Can you imagine the international reaction. If this was happening elsewhere in the world. Latin america africa. There would be a huge global outcry. Why are so many colluding with the emperor's vision of his new clothes. It has happened elsewhere in the world we had an election. a couple of years ago in the gambia in west africa in which gem lost the election and then claimed that he wanted and tried to stay in power and there was a threatened military intervention To remove him and eventually forced him out. So you're you're absolutely right. It would be treated differently and very seriously the reason why people are going along with it is twofold one is on the international stage. You have hesitancy because of geopolitics. So you know. Boris johnson would condemn this. If it was happening in west africa he won't condemn it in the us because he's worried about the blowback from the trump administration the last seventy days and on the domestic stage. The republican party is going along with it because they've made a calculation unfortunately that they think that it's best to keep the base fired up and also they don't want to alienate the base by breaking with trump before. They think he's had his time to sort of run his course so they've made a very cynical strategy Part of their game plan. And it's as i say it's doing immense damage because a majority of republicans now something between seventy-five and eighty five percent of republicans. Believe this election was stolen. Despite every piece of evidence pointing to this being one of the most well managed and well executed elections in modern american history. So at what point does it. Democratically elected leader become a dictator. It's a very good question. It's a gray area. It's it's basically win. They have taken power and failed to relinquish it in accordance with the democratic process. And so this is an instance where if trump were to stay in power illegally then yes of course We would have to stop talking about the. Us has democracy. What we have now is an attempt right. I believe that the democratic institutions of the us even though they have been battered under the last four years in our very damaged are strong enough that in this instance it won't prove successful and i think if we do actually game out the idea of him somehow trying to stay in the white house after january twentieth wouldn't the. Us shut down. There would be there would be riots. There would be violence. There would be general strikes. I mean it's it's unfathomable because even though that chunk of the republican party the hards believed that trump's somehow one or that the election was manipulated. And they're wrong about that. Eighty percent of the country knows joe biden one which is depressing. It's only eighty percent because it's quite clear that he won but it still overwhelming and therefore it's impossible to imagine Trump stained power without enormous backlash to that. And i don't think the republicans would actually go along with it once you get to that stage. I think they're indulging him because they think it's a ploy but i don't think that they would let him stay in power beyond inauguration day and i'm guessing that also republicans don't want to alienate the voter base. That may well get them to senate seats in georgia on the fifth of january. Yeah it's an interesting strategy this because of just in terms of pure it's obviously extraordinarily cynical but if we're evaluating interest from the merits of strategy as effectiveness there's a potential for blowback here right if you tell people that the elections are stolen from you in places like georgia. There's a risk that people in georgia who are republicans. Don't vote right. I mean they have. They have to get their base out and so even though they might be fired up about the the narrative that the republicans are selling them the narrative selling them as saying don't matter because they get rigged anyway which is again not true but some people believe that to be true and you wonder if on january fifth which is not a normal time for people to be voting. Usually special elections have low turnout whether the democratic base which is going to be very fired up for this could have a boost from the fact that some georgia republicans will say. Forget about it. I i don't wanna vote. Because i've heard all these conspiracy theories that my vote won't be counted anyway so you mentioned the danger for democracy an and as he also said one presumes that eventually he will have to go but how much damage can inflict before he does. I mean one area would seem to be how we view democracy in the future and would perhaps appoint to a changing of the constitution. Which really only has a couple of paragraphs on the office of the president. And i guess it relies. It's soft guidelines isn't it relies on on the good nature. The good faith of the president to to behave in a presidential way. Maybe that needs to change. Yeah i mean. I think the story Of the post trump era could be one. That's very optimistic. For democracy depending on how the senate seat elections go Because as you rightly point out what he's done is exposed. How much of american politics relies on norms and the sort of good faith that people in elected office will obey those norms. And what could happen as happened. After watergate with richard nixon is an attempt to codify right into law the norms so that they can't be up for discussion and i think this would be a very positive development that being said he can do enormous damage. He's got seventy four days in office and you know he is poisoning Republicans in particular in terms of their minds thinking about democracy. And that matters. I mean you have to have both parties believe in the legitimacy of the other party when they went elections if you want to have a democracy survive and right now that is not the case. And i you know. It's the first time in at least modern american history. That's been true so we do need to pay very close attention to what he's doing in terms those soft aspects of democracy. Now he's mark espa the defense secretary since then. There's been a run of firings and resignations at the top of the pentagon. John now has his people in place. And he's ousted those whose who would defy will. What might he try and achieve here. I mean could. He bring troops home from afghanistan in time for christmas. As long said he would thereby further destabilizing the region could he provoke conflict with iran leaving biden with a huge issue to deal with. Yeah this is one of the mysteries. I mean trump. You usually can understand trump pretty well by looking at ego narcissism personal interest financial interests. The question here is whether that explains these moves. As well so one narrative of course would be espa stood up to him on various things like deploying the military to quash protests and said. I'm not going to do that. And this is payback for him to fire him but there is some other stuff going on. That makes me wonder if there's more to this story like for example. A series of arms deals that have seemed to be arms transfers. It seemed to be concluded with various middle east Dictatorships and the question is is trump trying to do something to us foreign policy or is he trying to provide favors to countries that he may have future business interest in because his financial empire is going to be under enormous when his debt gets called in after he leaves the white house and there could be some Interest for him in trying to curry favor with some foreign governments in which towers may sprout up in the coming years. I don't know but Tinkering with national security drain a already volatile. Lame duck period is extremely dangerous. And it's not just the firings it's also the fact because he refuses to accept biden's transition biden hasn't started getting the presidential daily brief so he's not up to speed on all the threats facing and all of that means that it's less likely that biden will be as ready as possible on day one and that is something that should not be a partisan issue it should be for all americans to care about and of course he's not getting the funds that are meant to be released for the transition team either and there's a deadline for the legal challenges and as you say it's unlikely any of them will stick to to the degree that they changed results. So how and. When is this going to end well. Presumably what will happen is the certification deadline which is coming up in a couple of weeks for the various states. will come and go with certifications so that you know the new times called or email. All of the secretaries of state who are in charge of elections in in all fifty states and one hundred percent of them said that there was no fraud in their states and in fact trump's lawyers are saying the same thing in court when they're pressed right. The judges are are you. Are you alleging fraud. And they're having to say no because the lawyers actually have to inhabit reality so at some point the results will be certified and once that happens. It's a legally binding certification. That trump has lost the election so i think that the delusion will increasingly become a fringe view. It will still exist. Trump may never accept that he lost but as long as he's out of the white house on january twentieth limits the amount of damage he can do because it will be the end of his time in real power. Brian thank you very much indeed.
Donald Trump is finished, but will 'Trumpism' prevail?
"It's been more than a week since the us presidential election joe biden of course has claimed victory whereas the president is yet to concede defeat but when donald trump eventually leaves office the question. We have to ask ourselves is is trumpism. Really finished after all the media conventional wisdom the new york times washington. Post the major networks. Cnn msnbc all that conventional wisdom is that the twenty twenty election represents a repudiation of trumpism and what's trump luckily to do after he leaves office well for more. Let's turn to patrick. J buchanan senior adviser to president reagan nixon and ronald reagan. Pat has been a regular fixture in america's opinion pages and cable television shows for generations. Ninety ninety two and ninety six pat buchanan ran for the presidential nomination of his party. The republican party on america first platform pass walking back to you between the lines. Good to your tom now. Let's start with the election itself to spotted trifecta of crises health economic racial the us congressional and presidential contests were very tight. How do you account for that. I think there were tight for this reason. The covid virus which hammered us in march and april and then all during the summer and full took the lodge. That's two hundred and thirty thousand americans and they induced an economic decline unrivalled since the great depression. And then you have to racial turmoil in the country. And the wake of the killing of george floyd in minneapolis riots. And and things like that. So he's really damaged trump in the eyes of the public and his administration and normally they would've killed any presidential candidate. But i will say that in the fall. When trump was further behind he basically one mechanic team won the battle against biden. It was surging at the end of the campaign but he did not get over the top or at least so far so i think what you can say is trump and trumpism won the campaign. They lost the election because of the burdens. They had to terry which were too happy to cross the finish line. And let's not forget that in the late up to the election the metric conventional wisdom the polls the pundits. They predicted a democratic sweep. A blue wave washing the republicans out of power capturing the senate and delivering an alleged democratic congressional majority if the democrats did indeed have a clean sweep of the congress and the white house what would radical progressive in the american takes. What would that have made if you had nancy. Pelosi in control of the house and chuck schumer and control. The should i which looks less and less likely now and preston biden into white house. Biden's problem would be the tremendous pressure from the progressive left wing of this party to impose his leftist agenda. The party home to the country in the first two years of his administration. And i think it would be virtually impossible biden to resist the democrats cheap to kill the filibuster. Which would eliminate the ability of the republicans to stop their agenda and we would be off to the races with medicare for all the green new deal statehood for puerto rico statehood for dc. Defunding the cops. Pack the supreme court the whole left wing democratic agenda. They would try to ram through with fifty one votes. In the senate and biden frankly would be restraining force because republicans wouldn't be able to do it if they lost the filibuster in the senate which is what. Barack obama urged the democrats to take away if they win the senate okay now bought and has pasta to sydney electoral college. Votes needed to win the white house now given that it's very hard to prove widespread electoral fraud pat. Why want trump just accept defeat. Here's trump is demanding that he be allowed to play out last play of the deal. Because i think he feels he has been treated horribly by the democrats and the liberals in the press and he's not gonna do them a favour. He's got a right to make sure. The counselor made and certain things happen by certain dates. He's not going to speed up the transition. It's not gonna be a pleasant transition at all. He's going to treat them the way they felt. They treated him when he came in with the russia investigation and all the rest of it. So i think what you're getting is. Trump is looking at upon this if it succeeds is a hostile takeover of the government of the united states. And he is acting to resisted with every legal constitutional weapon. He has so it's This is not a cordial country power at all. Okay but with dany. Before the nineteen sixty presidential election between richard nixon and john f kennedy. That was very taught. There was a lot of speculation about electoral fraud in texas and illinois. And that of course benefited. The democrats won that election now. Apologies for the very scratchy. Sound quality of these vintage news report from sixty years ago. but he's nixon. Your boss pat here. He is at four. Am at republican headquarters. After the election conceding. Defeat to and and results shows come in if the present trend continues If mr kennedy and senator kennedy will be the next president of the united states senators kennedy now. And i want you know that. Certainly this trend has continued and he does become our next president that he will have my. That's richard nixon conceding. Defeat john f. kennedy in nineteen sixty pat buchanan. Why can't trump do a nixon accept defeat graciously that at four am gathering. My wife was present. She worked for richard nixon and the nineteen sixty campaign and travel. The country would and the point is that was a different time in a different country. That america's today america's bitterly divided and one of the contributing factors is the is the belief correct in my view that donald trump was denied. Not only a good transition but donald trump was investigated by the fbi and during the transition. They went after his state of the fbi did and they had a two year investigation beach. Kim they try to defeat him then they tried to overthrow him. And i think trump feels this and he says i established nothing. They can go. I mean they can go too far as i'm concerned and we're going to run this old way out and make sure every ballot is counted and all the towns are accurate. And whether or not we're going to go to court and exercise our rights and we're not going to pretend otherwise that this is a pleasant for easy transfer of power this was a hostile takeover and trump's view. I mean they're campaign run against him former first lady. Michelle obama is already talking about the house and he could and racism and the rest endemic pain in what he come folks voted for. So i think look you gotta divided country and there's no sense pretending otherwise and trump is not gonna gauge any pretense.
"richard nixon" Discussed on Can He Do That?
"Bush presidency I'm not sure you would have had the Obama Presidency so the impact. Each of those presidents had on the next election is immense following his resignation then there is the the slew of legislative reforms that came out in a way to try to restore the public's confidence in their elected officials and and You know to rebalance the power of the executive office. Do you think that The reforms put in place for the ones that we needed. Well you know the some of it worked some of did NABY ASLI Restricting campaign contributions worked for a while. Now that's gone with the Supreme Court decision. People in groups and corporations can donate endless amounts of money and had put more money into politics. So in that sense there's a failure It's not something you can correct with laws. I think it's something you can correct with. WHO's the person who's president? So what's a a biggest leadership lesson that you take from Nixon's presidency that the presidency is a sacred wintrust that it's not something. The person who is president owns or is entitled to that What needs to accompany that offices grit deal of humility? He listened to enough of those tapes and and what is important is the dog that doesn't Bark to my knowledge. No one ever says. What does the country need? What would being good it was always about? Nixon settling scores his political standing and future. How could be leveraged? I think we need to the presidency's not about the president. The presidency is about the the execution of the Constitution and laws within the defined framework in the interest of the people in the country. You never met Nixon. Do you wish that you had or do we try Carl Bernstein and I tried but we never got close and he was quite angry at our stories. And and that's you know that's under stand of bull team ever get. Do you ever get tired of of him. I'm studying him thinking about him. Having your own life story so intertwined turned with his. It's something Tired I'd because they're all there's always new material and tapes MM said new dimension to Nixon so the ultimate lesson is history is never over spirit of history. Never been over in the end this episode by asking current Washington Post executive editor Marty Baron for his reflections on how the legacy of the Nixon era. I still reverberates newsrooms. Today I hear all the time from people in the public who refer back to what the Washington posted in the era of Watergate and are calling upon us demanding that we do the same kind of work that we hold our politicians accountable and we dig beneath the surface and we keep digging and we'd be persistent. Those events actually inspired a whole new generation of journalists people of my age group To get into the field in the first place I think it also sharpened the definition of what are our core. Mission is certainly one of our most important core missions and that it is that we are supposed to hold powerful individuals and powerful institutions accountable in many things to this week's guests Mardi bearing and with enormous gratitude Bob Woodward original music for the podcast by listener and next week we will be discussing Nixon's vice president who took office upon his resignation Gerald Ford and finally just out of curiosity do any of you want another podcast when this one is over and thinking about whether we I should do one and if we do what it should be so if there's anything that you're dying to hear as kind of a season to I would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks you can email me at Lillian Dot Cunningham at wash post dot com or you can reach me on twitter and instagram accounts at presidential presidential underscore w. p.. Thanks for listening..
"richard nixon" Discussed on Can He Do That?
"Willingness to lie the feeling that everyone's out to get him and to me. It starts to sound really similar actually relate to some of the descriptions of his predecessor President Johnson the most important part that is similar stories that both Johnson Nixon wanted to overpower people and everything control everything. So that's an example people of that for Nixon like an example even early in his presidency of that paranoia and his desire for control a it was Christmas nineteen. sixty-nine Nixon had been president almost a year. And he's going over to the staff offices in the executive Dave office building next to the White House and he he sees that lots of people have pictures of John F. Kennedy on their desk or more on the wall and A goes beserk and orders that Butterfield to get rid of these pictures and and replaced them with Nixon and I kinda thought maybe this was a bit of an exaggeration and then What what one of the things that happened? Butterfield wrote a memo to Nixon about how he got Nixon's pictures to replace the twenty two Kennedy Hindi pictures that he found in some cases where the president had personally signed it to them and in in the memo The heading is sanitation of the staff office sanitation. And if somehow getting rid of Kennedy pictures was cleansing operation credibly bazaar and Butterfield had worked working on this and get investigate. People try to you know they were worried about whether these people were loyal to Nixon and so forth and if if he could have relaxed in realized there was just a lot of goodwill even Democrats felt for him he couldn't find a way to leverage that goodwill to his advantage it was. We're GONNA get him and then when he was reelected in seventy you too you know he said No. We're really going to get people. It's going to be pay back time and this this is what's sad component of all of this was very little joy in being president Joy was actually kind of the heart of our Theodore Roosevelt episode. Someone who seemed to take a lot of joy in being president but yes in Theodore Theodore Roosevelt took a lot of joy in living Nixon did not his butterfield told me we went through dozens of vowers of interviews about his experience. And he'd never really told it before there are scenes on comes to mind where Butterfield is riding in the presidential helicopter with Nixon and the Verse Lady and Pat. Nixon says Oh Dick Doc. Let's go up to New York. Christmas is coming. We'll take the girls be a good time. We'll go to show and Nixon. Is there writing something out on his yellow legal pad just totally ignores and she keeps going. You Know Dick you know kinda nothing now in in Butterfield was just astounded and horrified. That there wouldn't be the kind kind of yes dear. Let's talk about it or we'll consider. It was just closed off his own wife now. Same time their documents in the Butterfield archive that show. Nixon knew how to play to people's Egos and there's dinner at Camp David that was recorded. You Find Nixon's able to talk to his cabinet in in in a very human almost humorous way and play on the rigo and but he would then drift back into the automatic pilot. Uh of anger mode it was that sense of isolation that sense of a personal crusade to do things to accomplish things at the end of the day. Six thirty at night Nixon would leave the Oval Office and walk over to his. Is Private yet another office in the executive office building. That was more casual and he be there would have dinner alone and and and writing things out on the yellow legal pad now. You're president of the United States. You'd think he'd want to go with his family Roy which he didn't WanNa do too often he can talk to anyone in the world right and you would think he would have some more curiosity about that. But he wanted to be alone in the end and Butterfield described and other people were for Nixon. Yes and going into that private office. He had an aide have his feet up and his jacket on. And it was just this sense of Chill out enjoy it and and look for for what good you can do for people now to his credit. Sometimes he did on some things but again. It was this tribe. Evan this paranoia in this score-settling attitude but the couple of redeeming Connie He did some things in foreign foreign policy though into China was significant knee. Leveraged it I would even say brilliantly the same moot relations with the Soviet Union he had some domestic pluses creation of the Environmental Protection Agency and so forth. So there were things in all of this illegal corrupting in ugly debris that that are quite positive and quite strong in quite human but That Pales Sir. So do you feel like you have a sense of why he wanted to be president why he wanted power in in the first place and he wanted to to be president in part to show people He resented deeply the eastern Ernest. stablishment the people and he talks about this on the tapes. The people who had all the people who had it handed to them he wanted to be a renowned leader also and he did not perceive or have a system or relationships with anyone who could Kinda tell him. Hey you know what's going on in this presidency. Let's see if it's running off the rails and finally off the cliff. You Is National Security Advisor in Kissinger you see the time and time again Kissinger kind of Fawning the sync offense to Nixon An and Kissinger was smarter than that and would try to steer things his way but he he would never overtly late to my knowledge challenge Nixon and say no way. Would we try to do here. There is a memo that butterfield. Butterfield gave me what I call Zilch memo on top secret document. Nixon wrote a handwritten note Kissinger about the bombing in Vietnam. AETNA and said we've done it for three years and achieved Zilch. It's been a failure doesn't make sense and then you look at the record. And at that point this is January of Nineteen seventy-two justice. Nixon is beginning to run for reelection. It is dropped three million tons of bombs in Southeast Asia. And he says it's accomplished nothing. It's been a failure doesn't doesn't make sense. Accomplished Zilch was stunned. When I read this and then you look and you see that in seventy two? He intensified the bombing and the tape. Show that it was in large part done. Because it showed how Tuffy Afi was in the polling showed the public wanted more bombing and toughness and he even though he knew it was not effective active. He still did it just for the look of it. Yeah and I'm in. That's it's an equivalent corruption to Watergate. And and that to me. When I saw last year was a stunner I thought you know how could you have lost your way that you would do that? And essentially killing thousands of people in Cambodia North Vietnam clouds to put down a political marker now presidents sentenced. Don't like to lose wars but realism needs to overtake that at some point and you need to say. Asu Commander in chief. What are we accomplishing in her? Her we killing people with purpose. But do you feel like has changed the most about Your understanding of Nixon. The more the record comes out the these butterfield documents in his stories stories and more tapes. They still haven't released all of the tapes. Believe it or not The story gets worse rather than better better. So maybe before we even get to Watergate in particular nineteen seventy one is the publication of the Pentagon papers. That's also the year he started at the Washington Post Straight. Could you describe and what the climate was like to be in journalism at that time and and already sort of what friction there was lies between the Nixon administration and the press it was substantial and you could feel it in the air head contempt for the press. Ask because they'd be. They seem to be after him. He also worried The people could find out who he really was. He was concealed legal person. At one point. He says In one of these tapes of the problem is we've been to open with the press and of course.
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"Hi Can he do that listeners. I'm Alison Michael's my colleague. Lilian Cunningham created the presidential podcast back in two thousand sixteen to explore. We're in forty four episodes legacies and lies of each American president. And this week. We're sharing three of them. The stories of the three American presidents to to fees impeachment before President Trump episode. You're about to hear is about President Richard Nixon. He was the first and so far only person to to resign the presidency technically. He wasn't impeached but he left office. In nineteen seventy four when he realized he was about to be impeached for this episode. Louis interview journalist Bob Woodward yes the same Bob Woodward who helped break the Watergate story about Nixon's life his presidential traits. And what it was that led to his downfall downfall in office to hear more of episode than each of the American presidents checkout presidential on your favorite podcast platform or at washingtonpost dot com slash presidential the dental. Now here's the story of Richard Nixon the day he resigned he said I e called all of his aides and friends and family to the West Wing of the White House just before he left down the hill copter couple of hours before he actually left office through resignation and he he had his wife and daughters and son-in-law's there and it was a rambling talk about the grievances. He felt built. His mother wasn't treated right. His father was poor and then at one point he raised kind of with his hand. The and indicated. This is why I called you all here. And then he said always remember others may hate you But those who hate you don't win unless you hate them and then you destroy yourself. It was the heat that was the poison that destroyed him and his presidency and at that moment to his is credit he understood it. That's Bob Woodward one of the Washington Post reporters who uncovered the Watergate Scandal Dole that brought down Nixon's presidency and William Cunningham also with the Washington Post and this is the thirty sixth episode would've presidential.
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"After Cox's departure Nixon dispatched the FBI to the special prosecutor's offices where he ordered. They guard all the materials. The investigation had seized anyone remaining in the office. Working on the Watergate investigation. Kevin was told to take their personal belongings and leave from that point forward. FBI agents were charged with ensuring. No Watergate Watergate. Evidence left the building. The events of that evening were dubbed the Saturday night massacre and the public backlash rush was immediate and immense Nixon had previously been accused of meddling in the Watergate investigation but now the American people all were seeing his interference. Play out live on their televisions. Suddenly what once seemed like hearsay. Were now credible allegations allegations. A new word started circling the investigation impeachment coming up Nixon. Send deals with the fallout of the Saturday night massacre now back to the story in the fall of nineteen eighteen seventy three. US President Richard. Nixon adamantly refused to turn over recordings from the Oval Office. He even went so far as has to force the resignation of the top. Two members of the Justice Department after firing Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox Nixon felt melt the weight of the public backlash on October. Twenty third nineteen seventy-three while under immense pressure. He finally agreed to release some of the Oval Office tapes. And when Acting Attorney General Robert Bork appointed a new special prosecutor. Leon Jawara Ski. Why Nixon didn't intervene no matter what barriers Nixon put in their way? It was clear now that the investigation was going to continue. As planned on Saturday November Seventeenth Nineteen seventy-three Nixon spoke at the Associated Press US Managing Editors Convention and addressed the Watergate affair. I have never obstructed justice and I think too that I could say that in my years of public life that I welcome this kind of examination because people have gotta know whether or not their president's Crook. Well I'm not a Crook Nixon. Nixon insisted that the White House tapes would prove he wasn't a crook and that he did not know about the Watergate break in before it happened. He also claimed he never offered executive clemency for any of the burglars. He emphasized that he didn't learn. Until March twenty first nineteen seventy-three that cover up was underway four days after Nixon's address it was announced that one of the white eight house tapes had an eighteen and a half minute gap. This gap occurred during a conversation between chief of staff. Bob Haldeman and and President Nixon three days after the June nineteen seventy-two break in Nixon claimed he didn't know what was talked about during these missing being minutes but it was clear that it occurred right as the conversation turned to Watergate Rosemary. Woods the President Secretary. We took the blame for the missing audio. She said she was transcribing. The tape when she answered a phone call she thought she hit the stop. Button on the tape tape-recorder but instead must have pushed record when she answered the phone she had kept her foot on the pedal that controlled the playback. This action allowed allowed the tape to be recorded over however because she believed the phone call was only five minutes long. Rosemary couldn't account for the additional thirteen and a half minutes of missing content and when investigators asked Rosemary Woods to reenact the accidental erasure. She physically couldn't every time woods reach to answer the phone. Her foot lifted from the pedal and the machine stopped. The evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the president was building and the public's calls for impeachment grew in response the House of Representatives authorized the House Judiciary Committee to begin their own investigation in February of nineteen seventy I four while the Senate Select Committee looked at policy changes and the Justice Department looked at criminal charges. The thirty eight member House Committee Committee was tasked with investigating potential impeachment. They would spend the next several months determining if there were any grounds to bring charges urges against the president. If they did it would only be the second time in. US history that president was impeached. Meanwhile Special Prosecutor Leon Joie warshafsky obtained seven new indictments from the Watergate. Grand Jury on March first. I nineteen seventy four among those charged. Were campaign director. John Mitchell chief of Staff Bob. Haldeman and aide John Ehrlichman Richard. Nixon wasn't indicted though the grand jury named him a CO conspirator with a trial looming. Leon Gorski needed those White House tapes. If they contained the conversations John Dean claimed they had the evidence necessary to convict frustrated that the president was not cooperating. Jure ski issued a fresh subpoena for sixty four more tapes. In April of Nineteen seventy-four seventy four Nixon's first. Instinct was to continue refusing to comply but his advisers urged him to fall in line. As has it was he'd already been suspected of obstructing justice if it appeared that he was stonewalling the president would risk losing the support in Congress. He was relying on to avoid impeachment. So on April Twenty Ninth Nineteen Seventy Four. Nixon agreed to a compromise. He would release edited transcripts of forty three conversations. The resulting transcript was more than twelve bove thousand pages and it revealed what Nixon claimed all along. He didn't know about the Watergate. Cover up until March nineteen seventy the three and he had no part in it. But these transcripts weren't good enough for your ski so he continued to pursue the subpoena in court. The House Judiciary Committee also rejected the transcripts and issued their own subpoena in May in response..
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"The Senate Select Committee investigating the Watergate scandal. Oh was determined to uncover how high up the chain. The cover up went did heard several testimonies that inch closer and closer to the truth but the next witness former White House counsel John Dean would lead them straight to the Oval Office on Monday. June twenty-fifth Nineteen seventy-three dean sat down at the table facing the committee alone. This was a market change from the previous witnesses. Who had their attorneys next to them? Dean was sending a message. He was going to tell the whole truth regardless of the consequences. Dances Dean told the committee that he didn't believe Nixon fully understood Watergate or the cover up before he went any further. He wanted on the record that he believed. Nixon should be forgiven for whatever role. He may have played but rather than taking questions from Senators Dean announced that he was going to read a two hundred forty five page prepared statement outlining the Watergate break in the documents started with those early meetings with g Gordon Liddy and continued to the day that Dean was forced to resign as White House counsel in Dean Statement which took an entire day to read. He admitted he was present for the initial meetings. Jeb Magruder described but at the time Dean told Liddy he wanted nothing nothing to do with his outlandish gemstones scheme and if the campaign went through with it he didn't want to know so when the plan to break into the Watergate or gate building was discussed deem simply wasn't there. He heard nothing about the matter until the break in actually happened. Dean testified that.
"richard nixon" Discussed on Not Guilty
"Wherever you're listening? It really does help last week. We examined the investigation investigation of the nineteen seventy-two Watergate break in and the subsequent trial of the men caught in the act however the case wasn't closed after those proceedings defendant James mccord revealed that there were more people involved in the break in than those put on trial this week will explore floor the subsequent investigation which tried to answer the famous question. What did the president know? And when did he know it and finally finally. We'll look at the outcome that sealed. Richard Nixon's legacy as possibly the most complicated. US President in American history..
"richard nixon" Discussed on Not Guilty
"The Committee of Seven Senators and seven lawyers were charged with the formidable task of investigating the nineteen seventy two presidential presidential election for signs of wrongdoing. This included the break in the Democratic National Headquarters in the Watergate office complex a scandal so notorious that it had simply become known as Watergate households across America tuned in to watch the testimony live. You've aired start to finish by the public broadcasting service at the beginning of the Senate committee hearings nineteen percent of Americans thought Richard Nixon accent should be removed from office by the end. The number would increase to fifty seven percent. seventy-seven-year-old roll democratic. Senator Sam Ervin put on his reading glasses and opened the proceedings with a statement in an even tone. He told the packed. Act Room that the hearings were beginning in an atmosphere of the utmost gravity and that weight was felt by the many onlookers. The Large Hall was nearly silent as the first witness took his seat. The Senate Caucus Room had hosted other historical investigations like like the Teapot Dome Scandal. And the attack on Pearl Harbor it was a fitting backdrop for a hearing that would help end a presidency. How should we determine a person's guilt do we? Defer the evidence discovered by police or the verdict reached by jury. And what happens when the evidence and the verdict. Don't line up. Hi I'm Vanessa. Richardson and this is not guilty. Apar- cast original each week. We look at complicated criminal cases that test the limits of innocent and.
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"On June twenty-fifth the former FBI agent found himself on the other side of the interrogation table from agent Angelo Landau. Leno asked Baldwin. What he was doing in the Howard Johnson hotel he expected Baldwin Wind? Dodge the question but he didn't Baldwin much to lanos surprise was willing to spill everything he knew. He told Leno that the June break in at the Watergate wasn't the first he was also there in May to act as a lookout while bugs were planted in the Democratic National Channel Headquarters Baldwin lived at the hotel for the next few weeks to monitor the wires. His orders were to transcribe anything that came through through but the mission was a failure. One of the bugs didn't work correctly. And the other only picked up mundane things like Chit Chat and the the scheduling of hair appointments. What Baldwin and the men were looking for was financial information? They wanted to know where the Democratic National Committee obtained funding if there were any special interest groups or foreign countries financing the DNC's campaign efforts. It would be a major scandal handle and a leak to the press could secure the election for Republican incumbent Richard Nixon Baldwin told Landau that the second breaking again on June seventeenth was orchestrated to fix the original transmission device. Plant new ones and take photographs of financial financial documents. And the man who supervised the job was named Howard Hunt on the night of the break in Baldwin sought three men pull up to the Watergate complex. He didn't think much of it until the sixth floor. Lights flickered on the men dressed in street clothes walked down the hallway and two of them went out on the terrace using his walkie talkie Baldwin called hunt. He asked if there people were dressed casually or in suits hunt replied suits Baldwin radioed back back. Then we've got a problem. The three men were of course the plain clothes metro police officers before Baldwin knew what was happening hunt ran into the hotel room where he kept watch. He told Baldwin to wipe the place down to get rid of fingerprints and take all the electronics chronics to James mccord's house. He advised Baldwin to get out of town agent. Leno considered Baldwin story for a moment. He was confident. Baldwin was telling the truth but he was also pretty sure that Howard Hunt couldn't be the real mastermind behind the break-in so so leno kept pushing. He asked Baldwin if he knew anyone else. Orchestrating behind the scenes Baldwin knew that another man worked with Howard Hunt George something. He only met him once. Leno pulled out a picture and slid it across the table. Was the man in the photo. George Baldwin knew immediately. Yes it was George Gordon Liddy and employees of the committee ready to reelect the president special agent in charge Kunkle was right. The investigation didn't point at the CIA. It led to the committee to re elect the president this immediately caused a roadblock. FBI policy dictated that agents needed permission to interview anyone connected to the White House. Unfortunately disapproval could take days and would slow the investigation to a crawl. Not only that the White House would insist that one of the administration's lawyers sit in on all interviews with staff agent Leno. Oh New people wouldn't speak freely with their employers attorney in the room but this didn't keep agent Leno and his colleagues from from making progress on the investigation on Thursday June twenty second the money trail heated up the secret service had finally Lee traced the brand new hundred dollar bills found with the burglars. The cash went into circulation at a bank in Miami. The same bank where cuban-born been born burglar Bernard Barker was a client when the agents pulled Barker's records they found that checks from the CRP had been deposited it'd into his account days after the deposits Barker withdrew thousands of dollars this was a jackpot for the FBI. I agent Angelo. Llano stayed in the office late that night to type up his daily report he outlined the excellent work the team had done following the money trail real and wrote that they were going to continue down this path and they wouldn't stop until they uncovered who in the White House had funded the Watergate break in. They were getting closer lanos sent the report to FBI. Deputy Director Mark Felt and acting being director Patrick Gray. unbeknownst to Leno Gray then sent the report to the White House. Every step of the operation was being monitored by the very people the FBI was investigating and they were growing anxious. Leno's report was correct the the FBI was getting uncomfortably. Close to the truth. Something had to be done and quickly Nixon's top the aide John Ehrlichman and his chief of Staff Bob Haldeman knew who to call they summoned. CIA Director Richard Helms and deputy director Vernon Walters to the White House for a meeting. Ehrlichman and Haldeman explained to the CIA directors that because the the men arrested at Watergate had links to the CIA further inquiries into the case would divulge matters of national security. They stressed I the FBI had more than enough evidence against the five burglars and the two masterminds Howard Hunt and George Gordon Liddy the investigation needed to stop with those seven men or risk broaching a security issue Haldeman ordered the CIA director's to tell the FBI why to back off but director Helms known for his uncanny ability to conceal emotion flew into a rage the White House would not manipulate him. The Watergate break-in had nothing to do with the CIA and he knew wit he refused to undermine the agency's reputation by lying to the FBI. And though Helms didn't say it to Haldeman and Ehrlichman he had already spoken to. FBI Director. Patrick Gray the morning of the burglary Helms not only told gray that the CIA wasn't involved. He urged him to look at the link between James mccord. Howard Hunt and the advisors to the president? He'd already gone around the White House entirely with Helms refusing to play ball. CIA Deputy Director. Walters decided to bite the bullet bullet he agreed to step in and call. FBI Director Gray agent Angelo Leno and his colleagues colleagues leashes were suddenly pulled by the FBI director. It seemed every move they made was met with a directive to stop or a to wait. Leno grew frustrated. And he wasn't the only one Earl Silbert the federal prosecutor assigned to oversee the grand jury. We went to Llano to ask what was holding up the case. Why wasn't the investigation moving forward but Lando could only say would Patrick Gray told him the CIA claimed national security was at risk Silbert joined Llano and other agents in pushing back against the restrictions and and eventually Patrick Gray relented the investigation was going forward whether the CIA liked it or not? When Gray called Deputy Director Walters to let him know walters admitted he didn't see any connection between Watergate and the CIA and because because of this he wouldn't stand in the FBI's way any longer? The investigation was back on track. Coming up the F. B. I. Probe Heats up now back to the story after a break.
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"June seventeenth nineteen seventy two thirty three year old. FBI Agent Angelo. Leno was was getting his boys ready for their morning baseball practice when his phone rang. It was fellow agent. Ernie beltre their boss wanted Landau to head. Over to the DC Metro Police Department. Five men had been caught red handed burglarizing an office office at two thirty that morning. They refuse to talk to the arresting officers while Leno was technically on call that weekend. He usually worked counterintelligence. A burglary didn't really fall into his purview. He told belter to call in the criminal agent on duty. Instead he had plans plans with his kids Landau hung up and turned his attention back to his family. But hardly a minute past before the phone rang again this time time. It was his boss Special Agent in charge Robert Kunkle and Congo insisted Landau go down to the police station as Llano pulled out of his driveway. He had no way of knowing what was ahead of him. This was no ordinary burglary. No he was about to uncover the biggest American political scandal of the twentieth century. How should we determine.
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"The the richard nixon i emphatically enthusiastically used the take down the antiwar movement the the hippies and and and they tried to use heroin to take down the civil rights movement and at the same time that some would argue that heroin was being promoted in our inner cities by by a republican policies may be not heroin certainly cocaine were you know of a ollie north and richard nixon and all these guys you know bringing excuse me a ronald reagan uh you know bringing bringing coq back when they take the weapons down to the contras and all that kind of thing but i you know there's there's not a specific you know law that i know of that could be widely used outside of the conspiracy laws the thing that the thing that concerns me the most in the united states right now are are the laws on conspiracy if you an eye joe uh had a conversation in which i said to you hey joe uh you know it's illegal across the street uh against the light or in the middle of the street it's called jaywalking um but let's do it let's plan on getting together thursday and jaywalking and you said okay cool will do that let's we'll do a red the middle fourteen street um there in washington dc even if we never did it that is that discussion is conspiracy to commit a misdemeanour conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor is a felony so having that conversation could land both of us in prison for a fairly long period of time um it's perhaps the most extreme example i can give but the conspiracy laws in this country are and the money laundering laws also which which have been expanded now to include if few profited from a criminal activity and in some cases even if you didn't know is a criminal activity you are guilty of money laundering so you know there are there are a couple of of laws that are in my opinion used uh more aggressive than they were designed to be or should be by answering your question joe yeah yeah okay i would just wanted to tell you i also rigged up book you were talking about earlier in the.