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"richard donner" Discussed on Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast
"Alcohol where everybody but knew them but themselves beneath. They would talk about their friends. Who were alcoholics. And they were. They were consumers. And what was steve. mcqueen light to work with Interesting the good guy He put me through my paces first time because he was hired to work with him. He didn't want to work with me because he felt was an actor. Not a director and But he he put me through my challenges at ended up we. I beat them. We got along well. And i think i did have a dozen of his shows. At least yeah. Yeah yeah you want to wrap mr. Gee what do you think. Yeah this has been Gilbert godfrey to me seizing colossal pod. Case with my co-host rank. Santo padre and we have been talking to spawn richard. Donald schwartzberg was going to go to their street and wake lanes road. I love that show. I ju- a legendary ju- director. Frank dodd game fucking a couple of good italian directors over the years. Richard wouldn't you say i would say so richard. You're the kind of guy we could talk to for six hours. I i barely got through half my cars. We didn't get to lady hawker goonies or the lethal always and and we could just keep going. Maybe you'll come back and do this with us again and do apply love it. I'd really like it. You guys agree. Oh such a blast. Eighty spin anglerfish. Richard donner offer guests. Well anyone notice jewish and his changed their name. As i wanted to make it more julie and as richard schwartz earlier in the show he witnessed marlon brando. Fryer in the ass. Bless you for that. Richard what the heck. Richard i wanna i wanna thank you for all you've done for animals and animal rights and i don't i don't a missing your your for button you're anti but Going all the way back to the goldfish in In the oldman that you painted sardines that you faded orange so you want to kill life fish so god bless your heart. Bless you thank you guys. I've i've got to go back to new york. I had a komo away. I just realized you're in new york. I come out all the way from new york to here. i didn't know it. I'm going back to my home are you. Are you coming back here at anytime. Yeah i lived there. I just slept there to come out here. Saito had community here and do this year. Now we'll do this live if you're ever new york you're.
"richard donner" Discussed on Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast
"A day out of booze was the problem. Yeah i'm sure and personality wise. I've heard stories about gleason that he could be our. He could be a total prick to work with you. Know hackers are actors hero all and Almost there's a great percentage of them. Comedians actors whatever will comedians are actors. They something is happening in their lives or something news. And you are the new part and they're going to challenge you and it you've got to continue to condition yourself to how to take that challenge and there are time to hit it head on and there's times you hit it with a little bit of psychology and and turn it around but It does make life of director very difficult when when he knows he is being challenged. And how are you going to stand up to it. And how are you going to handle it because code infect in infect on how you handle it at that moment so you guys have been very tough. i'll bet and and i heard gene. Hackman had a quote that he used to tell the director. I just tell me faced their slower louder softer. That's all i want to hear from you. It ended up gene hackman. I had the challenge. We turned out to be wonderful friends. as a matter of fact he did a movie called plated director in get shorty postcard from the. It starts from the carolinas strip right. And when jean was doing interview they said did you. Research directors are stylized yourself. After he said yeah he said I saw myself much as jeff. Meeting richard donner. He said i. I've found the compassion for the character for him to say that for me it was. That's great on what a great honor couldn't on her. And and i'd be remiss if i didn't bring this up Your you were. Trust both marlon brando and richard. Pryor in your career. Richard do forty up according to the great legendary composer quincy jones. How can i put this shenley. Martin landau richard. Pryor in the as i don't know maybe Quincy may have been there. Because i also would he say it. Isn't it ridiculous but people say a lot of things are hint of it when you heard the. Oh my god. No no food. It's ridiculous rando never said to you. I have to leave early today. I have to folk. Richard pryor and they never came up every night. We got about ten minutes level. I just wanna ask you a couple of quick questions from from listeners. We call this thing. Grill the guest Mason would want to know about inside. Moves a one of your terrific movies. Which i watched very small quiet film that we want to tell our listeners to watch at and Harold russell one oscar for the best years of our lives. You back to the screen. No you didn't you didn't he. Won two oscars oscars. That's correct the only man in the history of the industry that one to us because for the same role that's right because he had have forget. He was a kid from canada. Laws posted his hands war. Yeah it's a good movie by the way moves and johnson special movie in my life. It's very good. And john david morris of course who used a lot whose toaster river them. John savage is a guy that that just. We just didn't see enough of i know he got he was. Did he win the academy award for your owner. He was nominated and didn't really think walking won that award walking one. But i mean that year when the deer hunter came out everybody was talking about. John is the next big star. I don't know what. Oh i do know what happened. A motorcycle accident over really and And i think he's neurological damage done and it took a long time for join to come back at. It's too bad because he is was in shelby. Continuous extraordinarily special actor. I'm so surprised. He's not we're not seeing him. Yeah he's good and everything. And you made a lot of blockbusters. But i want to recommend to our listeners. Both inside moves radio flyer to your smaller movies. Thank you thank you thank you. And they're they're both very very. Well done Gilbert does want to hear about this before we go. We're talking about people here about marlon brando. Richard pryor in the ash will send you the polaroid. We're talking about people who are deepen their cups. Is there a story early in your career about directing lucy and desi polly when they'd been bending the elbow that's how my career got started really. I was doing Commercials for dizzy. Lou and I would also shoot the commercials and opening for the dnc lou show and In the morning it was betty for news. Lucy desi vivian. Vance and bill never the mall and that boils down to abolish champagne bottle of jack daniels and vodka which was usually consumed again by lunchtime and Wow but they were professionals and great characters and that was the time and it was a wonderful producer who i was doing these commercials for and he had a good friend named ed adamson who was doing The steve mcqueen show wanted dead or alive. Oh yeah and he was over visiting on the set hellyer tree. Watch me with those five. He came over and he said. Do you think you could work with steve mcqueen. If you could work with all of them i said oh my god we were actors together new york Sure any hired me to do my first steve mcqueen show which turned my career around. That's great again. You pay some dues. Yeah what always struck me is like back then. Everybody drank but no one was considered alcoholic by themselves. I think.
"richard donner" Discussed on Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast
"As e every rod sterling stripped. If i were young director today or young producer. I would just go through that list and read. Look at every one of those i wouldn't. I would read the scripts Get him because there's a there's a movie hin one in every five. I guarantee it new a new movie idea a new movie idea those about that. And and so what was it like. You had dealings with rod. Serling that yes. What kind of person was easy to work with and to deal with. What am i worked with him. I was working with a couple of produces one of them. Was william frugh great writer producer. And you'd meet with rod and bill and rod if you could see through the smoke a incessant smoker But if you sat down with him and they started he he wasn't in case you couldn't get a word in it was a case you didn't even try all you wanted to do was have him talk and invariably he would start by talking about the project you were about to do his take on it his attitude on it and he never asked you what. What are you going to do with it. But he would tell you what he thought about it why we were making it or he was making it and he was again. You know i've been so you name those actors. I work with them. Yeah what a list domino of it myself. And you talk about the shows. I did and the producers and And people will say to me I've said this before. They'll say well. You know you pay dues. I don't think i've ever pay dues. It's just been so great. And i'm so fortunate to have done what i've done into worked with people the talents i've worked with that There were no dues paid. I owe everything that's nice. I was saying before the our listeners. Didn't hear this part but we were. We were chitchatting before we turn the mic on that The the the academy pay tribute to you recently. And there's you and mel gibson and rene rousso danny glover and you rare. You're very touched. And your very humble and very grateful. I urge our listeners to go to youtube and watch it. it's was much more. I had no idea what it was going to be. Totally they were doing. I really thought they'd be forty or fifty people. Maybe maybe you'd maybe fifty thousand people scrape and the room will. I couldn't put my mouth and gear. 'cause my mind was stuck. I couldn't believe it when i listened to people talking i I don't think i'm a humble guy. But boy did they make the onl- sweet was a very exciting her emotional and you had the right line to close the night you said. I've been waiting a long time to say this. I'd like to thank the academy talk. Perfect we will return to gilbert godfrey amazing colossal podcasts but first a word from our sponsor. This episode is brought to you by. Hp plus in a world full of smart devices shouldn't printer be smart to it is with hp plus these printers. No when they're running low so you always get the inky me delivered right when you needed. Plus you save up to fifty percent on inc so you can print whatever you want as much as you want anytime you want. That is pretty smart. Get six three months of instant inc when you choose. Hp plus conditions apply visit hp dot com slash smart for details and. You did a few episodes among many tv things of wild wild west. Yes yes god. So i wanted to ask you. I was always like a big fan of doctor. Loveless make alito level of michael. He was michael dunn. Yes yeah could you tell us about well midget actor michael done it. It really goes back to the producer greg garrison. Greg was an incredibly talented producer and at the most bizarre wild ideas of anybody which quite obvious and he put that show together and he put that cast together and I i was asked to come in on that too. Re-shoot some of the pilot I think it was just for some new ideas and then they asked me to do some of the shows and the When when you get into the preparation and see the people whose names were already established such as It was always on inspiring this wonderful little man very fragile quite honestly had terrible bone conditions and everything was was. He called them midget or well. In those in those days. I guess they might have called him. A dwarf chore but he had and those terrible physical problems so he had was a yale graduate. Wow yeah i know. He's a fellow. Yeah and he was always so much fun when he popped up on. Those shows up out of the ladies' skirts. He's a great a great heavy. Yeah but he was fun to irk with. Michael denko delight delight. That's nice very articulate. Very funny very nobody intellectual those things we all knew what we were doing and and You kind of stated the script because it was so good man from uncle to same kind of experience. same thing. we're all. Sam ralph a great writer producer e he also created Paladin have gun. Welcome richard boone. Yeah yeah That was sam ralph and Did he create. i forget. I mean you're taking me back on. I mean we're just talking.
"richard donner" Discussed on Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast
"richard donner" Discussed on Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast
"Jabbed me and i was just about to say you it. All good will join the crowd only me we can ask about hackman. No let's see. Oh just keep talking. Al jumping wouldn't famously wouldn't wear a bald cap and was. Is it true that he wouldn't shavers mustache. You had to go meet him talking shaving his moustache well. What happened was is a wonderful puzzles to gut on this show. Yes dick best. He was one of our guests. I love him. He called me one day and he said have you myth ackman yet. I said no. He said he's going to be my office in an hour. Once you come over and I also just come back from eglin in preparation and growing a mustache. And i met him in in in the gunman's office dig up and was one of the great publicist said handle all many many great characters actors producers directors anyway I i went over. And i met gene and we were talking about this big mustache and i said We'll look at you. Know one of the things i want to talk you about is lex luther your character in the fact that he his bowl instead of you wearing a bald cap throughout the whole picture which can be very uncomfortable. Won't you shave your head for the movie. And he looked at me. He said No i'm not gonna wear all gap and And i don't shave my professor heckman. I said you he said that's your problem. Hi said well As much as i said at least you'll shave. your mustache. Must cease on my way. Back to london so and i went back and i thought about it. I figured out a way that We would treat Lex luther 's hair as part of his narcissistic approach to life has levels of the mirror and that he would wear his hair different. All the time in the movie had four. He could keep his hair. We would diet changes women curling and it was wonderful the only once at the very end when he's captured yesterday. Take his wig off and jail right ned. Beatty jail so He i was in england. And they said mr hackman's in makeup And i said does he have his mustache by the nitrate by off and he said yes he has so i said to the maccabean. Come down here right away. So he came down to my office. I should put on the best mustache you can possibly put on. And he worked for a little bit with his mustache. Went up to make up with them. Hackman was in the chair. And i said well gene. At least you're happy with the hair. That's all going to work. I understand you pleased. And that the only two where the skullcap wants yeah. Yeah that'll work that'll work. I said but no mustaches. Just got off. He said no no. It's not coming off. I said the everybody knows your kennedy's it's coming off. All right. i tell you what. I i was playing with my most. I said you take yours off. Take off and he active haney said hari. Okay sit out while you're there. I'm not going anywhere. You can trace me down. Just judge said to the baker and take off his busted and he looks at me and his hand started shake with his electric razor and he when it acklin any shaved them clean then gene said okay. he stood up and he said you sit down. I said i don't need to. And i pulled it off. And he looked at me nice work and is his neck went from a size sixteen. And a half to throbbing. Nineteen with rain sticking. I knew he was gonna kill me but it would again. It was the start of a a wonderful friendship. Nice a nice outcome. Here's while i was gonna ask you the whole ed campaign for the original superman was you will believe a man can fly. And i heard that the original special effects were laughable. They were just like horrible when they were. I really bad. I mean they were really there. They were much like you know like the tv. Show a guy laying on a board and When being passed a background moving bind him. And that i had i had seven units going on that picture. All the time and that particular unit flying unit took us Well over a year before we sat in a room looking at daly's and said oh my god we got it. Got the first flying shot. It took that long to get to it call. Who's impossible but we broke every barrier. We deal was before computers. I computers where there weren't computers for film. There weren't programs that could be done. Everything was still being done in a very old fashion style. And a mechanical way. It worked within its limitations. But you couldn't you couldn't t- for instance is a machine called a front projection machine which is different than rear projection machine and so that the screen is behind the actor and you project and this machine as a ton of a brilliant man came to his name zoran basic who had just invented a machine at did exactly what one ton unit did but it weighed like thirty five pounds. Not a ton at two separate lenses on it. They were very special. And we experimented with that and worked on it and developed it until one day. This machine made you look up and say by god. He's flying. wow so it was. It was the whole experience of making this movie. It was painful it was difficult. I fired my editor at least ten times and he quit please. Fifteen and stewart berties wanted to great film editing and But it was love eight. We were all trying to get this thing done and we were when that picture finally opened in a theater we all sat hairless very humbled vallon span. Needs help. well. I certainly hope this little incident has put you on this. Statistically speaking of course it's still the safest way to travel..
"richard donner" Discussed on Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast
"richard donner" Discussed on How Many Podcast
"Too much competition with his dad. He definitely was not pro. Spielberg now i would argue that. John ford is still the greatest american director. But i'm an old fart fun. I mean or the quantity of incredible spielberg movies. It's just really hard to argue. Like if you wanna go quality-wise okay maybe tarantino has better movies but spielberg has too many great movies to not consider him that. Have we done a spielberg episode before. Now it takes like a week and he's yeah you're right. I'm spillover certainly is we could do it by decade. This is seventy spielberg of the eighties. Ninety bomb reach you. How can they lukewarm tallboy. Scott scott underscore metulla gary at travel underscore cowboy. I am at jesse jackson. Dfw and junior. I am at mexican underscore junior. We can reach the show. At how many podcasts. On twitter you can also reach out to us on our facebook page on our youtube channel. Just go to. How many podcasts. Dot com to listen to all of our older episodes and give us feedback. Give us some apple reviews. If you want to swap reviews just reach out to us. Let us know all right. That's a wrap and we will talk to you soon..
"richard donner" Discussed on How Many Podcast
"Uncle. Did six episodes twilight zone. Three episodes of perry mason. It was just amazing when you look at his. Imdb if he had just never did film work you know he would have been significant would have made the trifecta. Obviously you know superman alone makes him kind of an icon. I actually think of the screening to there's a purely decent amount that i think will be significant. Get some guesses out bob eleven. I'll go right half. You have a question. Are you counting his tv movies. I'm just doing films just charity. Portrait of teenage alcoholic is not going to make. The cut looks like linda blair's in that one. That was actually a pretty significant. Tv movie yeah. Can he's got a horse. Cyril look. it's my fault. Some of the kids got to drinking a little. And i well. I convince sarah to go along with the crowd. Sure did all right. Scott i was an episode of cannon once his bragging montage yes canon starring william conrad with guest stars after we go. Neil belinda j. Montgomery mike farrell special guest. Dr scott to episode stakeout to meet conrad. I didn't get to meet him up. Close he was more like about thirty yards or twenty yards away from me. Yeah i was. I was there. Raise your hand if you thought scott was talking about a whole movie when he said that i was in the background. So that would have been early. Seventies scott yeah we were in durango colorado on vacation and they were filming an episode of cannon there comedy. I'm gonna go fourteen and junior well. I could split the difference between you two. But i think i'm going to take the over at least until gary takes my over and i'm going to go fifteen gary twelve. I have seen that list. So i will not pick but i think you guys have low balled it so we'll see. Oh so you would have been above fifteen. Yes i would have. Wow all right. His first his direct optical directly. There's no way that's word the omen. Wow very i love the theme song. Bob does that. A little of that for damian omen that movie have some quality. Woo yes very damian damian..
"richard donner" Discussed on The No Film School Podcast
"You know. I guarantee you like i don't know i keeping about this in relation to zola where it's like you know. Clearly other people ready to step in and tell the story of zola and do it in a better way where they were willing to do the work. And i don't know nez debravo. I met at a party wants. But like i don't know if she was ever dancer but like she clearly was willing to do the work to understand the context of what that meant. And that is the kind of thing that i can't always you know after basic instinct. Not don't always have the same faith. I he also did a movie. Ten years ago about a woman who a dutch woman who ended up working as a prostitute for the nazis and then get shamed afterwards and it was like an attempt to be more nuanced and complicated. But also i think kind of exploitative in places where. I don't think it was necessarily appropriate to be. I think everybody should have the freedom if they do the work to make the movie. I also just like coming off just happened. Just listen to the pipe gas. Where like you know. They were talking about her directing movie. I'm like if you're polly platt fan. Everybody wishes she directed movie. Paulie putnam maison. I was looking to read her adaptation of my favorite book. All my friends are gonna be strangers once and his great writer great productions on our great producer like a major talent. And you know after dinner. He reached up her shirt and filter up and was like you'll never director's movie if you don't sleep with me now. That is told in her unpublished autobiography. He denies it. I'm gonna choose to polly platt. Because i just want to believe polly platt and just disgusted. Pulver hoven right now and you know the those kinds of things are rampant should be exposed and absolutely should impact someones career trajectory and stuff like that i. I'm with you there. But i also think it's if he makes insensitive movies if he decides to he or anybody decides to tell those stories but doesn't do the work will they show you who they are in a way then then you could be like. Yeah i'm not gonna go see the next time like i'm not gonna support it. I don't wanna see it. He's already shown that and he's here he is making a movie about lesbians and like we already know that he doesn't have the kind of sensitivity to do that. And there are already other people out there who could do a better job. I'd haven't seen any other of his movies except for basic instinct. But i have a feeling like that and probably not gonna like his movie and should robocup robocup rules. You should watch russia. That's fair that's a different. That's a totally different job. We're not talking about genre right now and this is about like yeah the ethics and morality around who should be telling stories. And i'm i side with you guys on this at. I personally feel that as long as you know we say right what you know right if you are truly willing to get to know the population that you're writing about and really treated with care and by that i mean like be very careful like full of care about the people that you're representing and make sure that you're doing it well and and not just reinforcing Tired stereotypes that could potentially hold that group back or have been holding back then. Great like if you're going to do a good job great if you can tell by this person's track record that they don't have that kind of sensitivity or like truly. Don't care enough than not the person that you want making that movie. What's like if you think about cary joji fukunaga who like before nobrega like went to the area where ceo and spent time there to absorb the culture and try and write the story of number from a place of like something resembling authenticity which is like totally authorized up in. But he wanted and like. That's the kind of thing that we're hoping for and expecting from filmmakers because like let's not forget like you know everyone is key. Everyone is simultaneously capable of trying to be. There are female filmmakers. Out there that were nazis leni riefenstahl total nazi. So like it's not that you know it's not like male filmmakers bad female filmmakers credits like it's like you know. Are you trying to bring an authentic something to the experience. 'cause i guarantee you. There's an amazing movie about lesbians directed by a man say careless soga caroline. I'm just going to throw out there. Kathy reminded me of it. The perfect example of this this movie concrete cowboy. It's on netflix. It came out in april. And i interviewed ricky staub who wrote directed and he's a white guy and this is a story about african americans in a city who were insert. True story about the fletcher street urban riding club. These guys raised horses. They were cowboys basically and they had horses and stables and they still do and it's really cool. It's great to he. Basically to tell the story he just embedded himself in this world. He got to know the people who was really about and he spent a lot of time. Earning their trust tell their story. And it's that story is great because he really was like i care about the story. I wanna tell. I care about these people and i care about doing it right. And he wasn't the natural pick but it was a great example of like. Hey prove that you can tell that you can become a filter for it that you can do it with care like you said. Honestly i love that and you're right like it's a shame i agree with you can. It's a shame that someone could prove that they're not really gonna do that and they keep getting turns at bat anyway to do it when it's like. Hey we already know like find somebody who wants to do the work. They're out there and wants to tell the story authentically or has some deeper connection to it or so many times. You talked to filmmaker new like you're really have an obvious connection to this material and they'll tell you why they how they developed one and that's what you wanna see because it gets you closer to an experience and and something authentic and. I think it's no accident. That verhoeven is great telling stories that address. Fascism because these best movies address those ideas right robocop in my opinion starship troopers like a connection to that and there's other things he does not have a connection to that he tells stories about an doesn't work as well and it makes sense and we all have our blind spots like yes. I am a female filmmaker. But i know that leg one My line spots is like i. Probably if i were to sit down and write a lesbian movie right now. It probably wouldn't be that good. Because i'm not a lesbian. I don't. I'm not part of that community not for that population. I don't know very much about it. So i would have to do the work to do something like that. Actually make it like a very like authentic and real film. That does justice to the community. And like i also happen to be mixed race but having grown up in america and only speaking english. First and foremost there is. I have less of a connection to the culture. Is that my my previous generations of my family are from and so i even have blind spots when i'm making movies about like you know Chinese characters or salvadoran characters which is where my family's from it's always good to be mindful of like. How is my perspective being shaped by the culture that i grew up in. And how is that gonna affect what. I'm making about this other culture that i'm interested in you know yet do the research for people. I think that's a good thing to do. It's a good thing to wanna do. It's gonna make you better storyteller. 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"richard donner" Discussed on The No Film School Podcast
"Trajectory and stuff like that i. I'm with you there. But i also think it's here's if he makes insensitive movies if he decides he or anybody decides to tell those stories but doesn't do the work will they show you who they are in a way. Then that you could be like. I'm not gonna go see the next time i'm not going to support it. I don't wanna see it. I don't think he's already shown that and he's here. He is making a movie about lesbians and like we already know that he doesn't have the kind of sensitivity to do that. And there are already other people out there who could do a better job. Why did i haven't seen any other of his movies except for basic instinct. But i just had a feeling like that and probably not gonna like his movie and broke up robocup rules. You should watch. That's fair but that's a different. That's a totally different job. We're not talking about that. John right now and this is about like yeah the ethics and morality around who telling stories and i side with you guys on this. I personally feel that as long as you know. We say right what you know right and if you are truly willing to get to know the population that you're writing about and really treated with care and by that i mean like be very careful like full of care about the people that you're representing and make sure that you're doing it well and and not just reinforcing Tired stereotypes that could potentially hold that group back or have been holding back then. Great like if you're gonna do a good job great if you can tell by this person's track record that they don't have that kind of or truly. Don't care enough than not the person that you want that movie. What's like if you think about cary joji fukunaga who like before. No bray like went to the area. We're seeing nobody was et and spent time there to absorb the culture and try and write the story of soon number. I from a place of something. Authenticity which is like totally off. The roads grew up in but he wanted. And like. that's the kind of thing that we're hoping for and expecting from filmmakers because let's not forget like you know everyone is everyone simultaneously capable of trying to be. There are female filmmakers out there that were not seized. Leni riefenstahl total nazi. So like it's not that you know. It's not like male filmmakers bad female filmmakers card. It's like it's like you know. Are you trying to bring an authentic something to the experience. 'cause yeah i guarantee you. There's an amazing movie about lesbians directed by a man. I say careless toga carolyn. So i was just going to throw out there because kathy reminded me of it. The perfect example of this this movie concrete cowboy. It's on netflix. It came out in april. And i interviewed ricky staub who wrote and directed it and he's a white guy and this is a story about african americans in a city. Who were cer- true story about the fletcher street urban writing club. These guys raised horses. They were cowboys basically and they had horses and stables. And they still do. And it's really cool. It's a great Basically to tell the story he just embedded himself in this world. He got to know the people who was really about any spent a lot of time. Earning their trust tell their story and that story is great because he really was like i care about the tell i care about these people and i care about doing it right. And he wasn't the natural pick but it was a great example of like. Hey prove that you can tell that you can become a filter for it that you can do it with care like you said. Honestly i love that and you're right like it's a shame i agree with you. It's a shame that someone could prove that they're not really gonna do that and they keep getting turns at bat anyway to do it when it's like. Hey we already know like find somebody who wants to do the work. They're out there and wants to tell the story authentically or has some deeper connection to it or so many times. You talked to filmmaker and you're like you're really have an obvious connection to this material and they'll tell you why they how they developed one and that's what you want to see because it gets you closer to an experience and and something authentic and i think it's no accident. That for hoven is great at telling stories that address. Fascism because these best movies addressed those ideas right robocop in my opinion starship troopers. Like he really has a connection to that and there's other things he does not have a connection to that he tells stories about an doesn't work as well and right makes and we all have our blind spots like yes. I am a female filmmaker. But i know that like one My blind spots is like i. Probably if i were to sit down and write a lesbian movie right now. It probably wouldn't be that good. Because i am not lesbian. I don't. I'm not part of that community not for that population. I don't know very much about it. So i would have to do the work to do something like that and actually make it like a very like authentic and real film that does justice to the community and like i also happen to be mixed race but having grown up in america and only speaking english. First and foremost there is. I have less connection to the culture. Is that my my previous generations of my family are from and so i even have blind spots. What i'm making movies about like you know Chinese characters or salvadoran character is which is where my family's from and so it's always good to be mindful of like how is my perspective being shaped by the culture that i grew up in. And how is that going to affect. What i'm making about this other culture that i'm interested in you know yes i do the research for. I think that's a good thing to do. It's a good thing to wanna do. It's gonna make you better storyteller. You're gonna find interesting things as you go on from there. Tila subjects that you can't do a ton of research about which is superhero movies and the filmmaker that arguably in the modern era in superhero cinema. Yeah so the passing of richard donner great filmmaker. And i think that it's a perfect segue. Charles because my favorite thing about richard donner as a film fan and filmmaker and Everything human being is that he had this rule when they made superman. Superman was his one of his big projects and the christopher reeve one that at the time. If you go back in history folks and you watch the batman show of the sixties or the batman serials black and white from prior to that. There was no version of the story. Unscreened with superheroes that wasn't like overtly silly on some level because it was an overtly.
"richard donner" Discussed on Krypton Report: The Supergirl Podcast
"When he relocated to los angeles he was coaxed into not just acting but they get into directing and we all know how that worked out so great career and you know just growing up with his movies in the background and he just seemed like a it's someone you don't know but you feel ten with passes you're like man. I never knew this but somehow they're touch my life and was always someone i wanted to meet. There's a book that i've had in my Amazon wishlist for a very long time and it was called. It was a biography by about restaurant. Called you're the director. You figured it. Out the life and films of richard donner. I've wanted it for a very long time and now probably be very hard to find an overpriced. So that's frustrating. And i will find it now and two thousand six during the whole time of returns win. Richard donor. To superman cut was released. Geoff johns and richard donner wrote a comic together. Called last son of krypton and we will actually recording a review of that soon and Look forward to that now. Seeing what he no touching back into the world of superman always simply his heart and he'll be missed. Look for those podcast. Like i said in just searched the cape. Wonder podcast just dropped one. That is a discussion with brian. O'halloran who played non and superman men to and he's looking back at rich so check that out and remember richard donner. If you want to help out this show in any other show on southgate media group and you really don't have the extra money to do so check this out. Good southgate ni group dotcom at the top. There's a link to amazon. Click that logging tier amazon shop and buy like normal and part of the money that you spend gums back to.
"richard donner" Discussed on Krypton Report: The Supergirl Podcast
"This is one that i forgot was donner film. I remember seeing is young and it was just child abuse it was disturbing streaming ninety two also weapon three and then what am i personal favorites that i think a lot of people. Forget and what's sad is the day before richard passing. I actually mentioned this movie. I quoted it to my wife. A lot is maverick. Nineteen ninety. four's maverick mel gibson. Jodie foster and james gardner terrific richard. Donner you know. It's it's wonderful. I can't praise it enough. If you're not sure please check it out. Alyce assassins in nineteen ninety. Five was his next film. And i saw this one. But i remembered to be honest with its Stallone antonio banderas ninety seven saw conspiracy theory which is another one of those films that i saw a lot as a child. Just because my mom actually really liked the film. It was one of those that we had the vhs and played a lot in our house. It's on hbo lethal weapon. Four followed in ninety eight and then we have a break. And it's kind of crazy thinking ninety eight and donner's next film did not appear until two thousand. Three's timeline based on the michael crichton book and on hulu and i thought that was the last film that he had directed. I did see that one. It's a fun movie. But the last movie he direct with sixteen blocks and that was in two thousand six that is not streaming that is a very vast large legacy of direction now. His production producer credits. All over the place. I mean just hit. Some of the high points can quickly. I won't other than films that he directed because very much active produced from films. He directed Starting with lady hawk. So let's go through movie. The lost boys executive producer. Free willy executive sir cruelty to the omen to offer habit. That just says nineteen ninety-five tales from the crypt. executive producer. tells them of films for free. Willy three double tap any seven any given sunday x. Men i knew about the x men x men origins wolverine knew about that one and those are the he helped produce other than Films like a man is more than just the things that he directed and i've recently watched a lot. Excuse me he has just want to point this out. A lot of cameos in his movies grant to sue man. He's a man the diner manager street. the goonies. He's a policeman. Maverick as a dealer tomlin. He's man in car conspiracy theory conspiracy theory talk cap passenger and sixteen blocks man holding birthday. I really watched more interviews. Just that i had seen some of the things he said. I watched focused on superman. Of course you could tell the he the reason why he's so beloved and what's sad is now with honors passing the three men who really crafted superman film. Richard donner tom mankiewicz. Christopher reeve have all pat. And i will go into production history of that film at series. He laid the template and a word that i'd never heard of that became very popular in richard. Donner discussing sumo's personality and they took superman serious. And even today. I think i was talking with some friends today..
"richard donner" Discussed on Krypton Report: The Supergirl Podcast
"Shows and facebook. Welcome to the krypton report. This is a special episode. That was kind of impromptu. You by recent events. Yeah i just want to take a few moments. Also if you're listening to this episode you'll realize are episode. Numbers are a little off because we had everything prerecorded for some specials. Ready to go. And i'm in the process of moving so it made it much more difficult when this happened but technically this episode two hundred enjoy. This episode is going to be talking about the late angry. Richard donner now. Richard donner a lot of fans. Mostly it'll be known for superman and he you know he directed one superman movie technically mucky but he set the standard for many many superhero movies to follow. Currently both wonder woman and batman begins looked at the template and style of superman. The movie richard donner. So let's just take you honest conversation piece. There's great podcast that there are people who had worked with donner who are coming out and saying what a great man he was one of the podcast that i thoroughly enjoy comic book central. Just re posted lincoln. So did we share their link horn interview. That was done. I want to four four five years ago with donner and it's great. Just check it out. So let's get into some of his some of his great works now as a director. He has many credits. I'm gonna hit the high notes that people know it'll really help cement. Who he was he did he did. Tv for a while building up his repertoire. It wasn't till nine thousand nine hundred seventy six with the movie. The omen which i believe is his third film and first major film others have been tv movies. I believe i'm not. I'm not one hundred percent positive. Everything at the beginning here broke out and the omen was a huge success. Success based on the horror craze of the seventies after the exorcist the omen would later be remade wonderful but then after that nineteen seventy eight was when he got superman and superman of course is what he's most known for..
"richard donner" Discussed on The RCWR Show with Lee Sanders
"But yeah i would imagine that. They're probably gonna be doing something similar like that for richard donner at all the cons for the rest of this year. Maybe even Going into Next year oh yeah around an off the list though. I definitely gotta put Nine hundred eight scrooge on there as well one of my top all time favorite bill. Murray movies is Is not at the top top. Like as far as the top three spots but is definitely at the top yeah. I love scrooge. Every single time The holidays come about that's particularly christmas. That's one of the main movies that i always go to and i bust out. Our bus sow scrooge. It's wonderful life miracle on thirty four thirty four thirty four. Th street argon christmas story. You And i also out groundhog day. I boss groundhog day. Yeah those are the ones that are want so recipes. Richard donner hundred. And now let me see how long we've been going so far we've been going about. What like almost ninety minutes. Yeah we've been going about about hour thirty five minutes Just trying to see what else we can get into as you know. We're kind of winding down Just a little bit. Look i know all the big craze that came from last week was the fact that zelina vega returned to the wwe or we now see that she's involved in the money in the bank ladder match for the women's side of the contract. And all that you got a lot of people. That's look at selena vega returning to the company and you got those that are essentially calling her a hypocrite. Because of her talking about you know. Hey we need a unionization and look. She did put out a statement in regards to her. Wwe return and She a- wrote on social media what to take from tonight. I'm back. I'm going to be in the money in the bank ladder match and i will win period. Everything else is irrelevant. And she kept it short sweet and simple Look you know as far as her being back in the wwe and everything.
"richard donner" Discussed on The RCWR Show with Lee Sanders
"Veteran director cruiser Richard donner richard. Donner the director behind the omen. Superman starring christopher reeve scrooge goonies lethal weapon Yeah he passed away At the age of ninety one it also ninety one a nice good long fruitful life without a shadow of doubt nice good long fruitful life but I heard about this earlier today. And i was like rarely you know and i couldn't. I couldn't feel too sad because it was you know. Hey ninety one less as a hell of a good ass run a hell of a nice good long fruitful life You know the one thing. I liked abou-. Richard donner and the way he directed. I mean not just in regards to movies because you know when it came to him as a director you know pretty much early sixties as a director is really when it began for him. budge tv. He did first tv. He pretty much was a either a writer or a director for many episodes Wanted dead or alive Have gun will travel Twilight zone me heeded of quite a few episodes of the twilight zone the riflemen And these are all series. That i'm very familiar with. I've watched many times over the years. The man from uncle gilligan's island perry mason get smart The wild wild west Ironside even you know even to the episode of ironside Mean tells from the crib he also was Servant as a executive producer So i i mean this. This man did a lot of stuff. A lot of stuff in regards to tv But definitely the films alone you know if he wasn't the director he was a producer for For some of these films the thing that i love the most about richard donner and what was essentially. His trademark was any and everything that he was associated with. There was all ways a really good grounded sense of realism. in a way he approached his directing. I i mean. I would have had to be familiar with his work and will really know what it is that i'm talking about there. Was there was such great believability Two oh hey let's not forget the goonies as walk can we've almost forget about the goonies But there was a real miss to it And i tell you what. I remember when i was a kid and my mom was responsible for introducing me to comic books. I would say probably by the age of four. I was introduced to comic books and probably by the age of five. I just began getting loss in drawing. We know all things comics and all that and pretty much..
"richard donner" Discussed on The Fantasmagorium Show
"Everyone's everyone's performance in maverick just makes me smile. It's a mix of old hollywood and new. Hollywood and richard donner is one of those people. That sort of made breakthrough movies in the seventies and was that straddle between old hollywood and new hollywood and he was he was the Up in common pop but he was still you know he cut his teeth and television in the sixties and and really got some like with the omen. Something that was talked about. The robert byron that show last night. That movie scared the shit that in the exorcist. Kind of around the same time. Those those movies you can shaped the way i watch news sometimes talk that But i'm glad brought human and so i am again with his as you mentioned With his producing credits behind the scenes. Just as much as you. Well all mostly behind the scenes behind the camera but then also in his capacity as a producer some of the movies that he's brought to screens and his partner who is arguably responsible for the subsequent with lauren. Shuler donner doing the x. men series absolutely. I mean that team brought us some of the coolest nerdy that we that we all love. Today you know at Informed a bunch of stuff that came afterwards. It's interesting how how. Richard donner His death was confirmed By variety though the cause of death was not disclosed. And i was discussing it the other night last night with my dad and he was like. So what are you die of. And i was like probably of being ninety one. You know it is it is all it is sad you but if we could all live to the ripe old age of ninety one. We're doing a good thing right. Yeah that's a good run. Oh absolutely an even. Even i recently. I heard that he was trying to ramp up to make lethal weapon five. Oh yeah he was still he was still vibrant and willing to work and you know the the the the body was willing or the mind was willing and it was just sorry that had certain point everyone has to pay the piper and ninety one is certainly for a legend that it is it is disheartening. Just because we know we aren't going to be getting an original flavor If they do decide to go with a lethal weapon five. But i'm so happy to celebrate his entire filmography because not only did give us most of the x men comic book stuff that we love but he gave us the lost boys boys right i mean he he he he failed. Billy i love marine life. What can i say. And and mel gibson. Danny glover in that Lethal weapon series. Were aces i mean. That's i watched that movie. This day up mike at just hold..
"richard donner" Discussed on /Film Daily
"And senior writer. And chief film critic chris evangelista hollow new titles all around. Brad you're actually going to be a senior writer as well. I think you're technically still the weekend editor until we find a unofficial replacement for you. Is that right. Yeah so coming up as i'm sometime. Maybe this month could be as soon as this month. I'll be stepping away from the weekend's just because i've been doing this for six or seven years now working seven days a week and looking to get my weekends back and so now with some changes happening slash film. I'll be sticking to the the weekdays as a senior writer in letting somebody else take over the weekend editor position since we're going to be having a lot more weekend contact coming up soon. Excellent excellent all right. Well yeah we got a lot of exciting stuff going on and coming up soon. At sasha dot com stay tuned for more about that later on But let's get into the news today guys. We learned over the weekend some some sad news that richard donner passed away. Richard honor of course the director of superman. The lethal weapon films. The goonies much more. He died at age. Ninety one And yeah. I mean this is just one of those that kinda hurts because he was richard. Donner was one of those guys. I think his his career starting like early nineteen sixties and he just through the sixties and seventies was a prolific tv director. Then right around. The mid seventies started essentially transitioning from television into film and just made big movie after movie and became. You know like a go to blockbuster film maker of the seventies eighties nineties and he was just one of those guys man like everybody. You know a lot of times. People are Effusive with praise About celebrities after they pass away but the tenor of the conversation. That has happened since. Richard donner's passing has been not just about the work that he left behind. Like what a good person. He seemed to be An and just how much of a good dude he was. So that's always nice when those two things sort of align like that but I just wanted to ask you guys. Do you have any favorite specific. Richard donner films or Maybe moments from those films. Anything that that sort of stands out to you. What what was the first moment when you heard that he passed. What was the first cinematic moment. Where you're like almond richard donner. I mean. immediately. It's definitely superman. Superman was like the the first major big budget studio superhero movie. And you know it would later usher in an even bigger era of superhero movies. It's crazy that like for a while. Superman was really like the only game in town when it comes to big screen superhero adventures a. b. c. timbers batman arrive. You know until the ladies and that not only that movie usher in superhero movies in general. But kind of just the modern blockbuster. Eric espy actually a great piece. About how he really helped pioneer. You know the idea of big. Tent pole blockbusters Especially you know with property like comic books and it's easy to take for granted nowadays because we complain You know about how many superhero movies there are. Whether it's marvel in dc or or something else that's out there but there was a time when they were considered a silly novelty and he made you You know like the poster says believed that a man can fly and allowed us to buy into a lot of other sort of Big blockbuster concepts on on big screen and that was a big thing. But then on i think Another note to one of the things that i've always loved are all the lethal weapon movies. Even the ones that maybe you could say aren't so great just because donner knew how to inject those movies with the right amount of heart. Along with the the buddy cop action comedy aspects and the dynamic He created between riggs and murtaugh mel gibson. Danny glover have like one of the best onscreen partnerships friendships. You know period when it comes to that genre and donner just knew how to put a lot of feeling into those kinds of movies and even lethal weapon. Four as even though it gets much sillier than the previous lethal weapon movies You really feel the like the relationship between all the characters in that movie. Even somebody as Saulius joe picci's character in those movies. He gives him a great moment In that movie where like he expresses you know how much he feels like. You know that. He's a part of rigs murtaza's lives and i've just. I've always loved that about donner. what would he does. This is at heart that he brings up. Yeah chris what about you any particular memories there. I don't have specific memories. But i you know one thing. I was shocked that he was so. Oh i didn't realize it was ninety one when he died i was. I don't know what i thought he was. But in my head he was not that old probably because in my head. I'm not old. Even though. I'm like one foot in the grave already but but i love a lot of richard donner's work i loved. The omen is a lot of fun and like rats at the lethal weapon. Series is a blast. I always loved how he was very he was. He was an activist and he wasn't afraid to like shoehorn in messages into those movies movies. They're big violent action movies but he was very much like a pro gun control guy and he would put that narnia lethal weapon. I think it's two or it's either two or three but it has his whole subplot about lake apart height which which was like when. I saw that as a kid. I didn't even know what that was like. I learned about apartheid from the lethal weapon series. So i always loved that. Richard donner was not afraid to wear his his activism on his sleeve. I'm sure like if you were making movies day we'd get like a million bullshit fox news segments about like armature daughters being political. But you know he was. He didn't have to worry about that and he just has this interesting eclectic career. Because you know you had superman but he also had scrooge did he also had Conspiracy theory like it's such a strange a list of films that he worked on but he gave all of them. You know a distinct personality. So he will. He will be missed in. It's a shame that i remember like even though i don't have any for lethal weapon five you know in the last few years he did a bunch of interviews or he was like i really wanna make lethal weapon five and it's. It's kind of a shame that he'll never get to do that now. Yeah yeah definitely. And i mean that's probably for the best of lethal weapon series. I personally. I'm just glad that timeline which came out in two thousand three was not his final film. Because i read that book which is based on a michael crichton or or the book was written by michael crichton and the movie is based on. That book at that movie is Is not very good. But he finished up his career directing sixteen blocks which came out. Two thousand six which i think is much much better a final film and yet there are some sort of like you said sort of eclectic. You know little movies mixed in here. You got radio flier and assassins. The movie that gave us the famous antonio banderas gif of him leaning back from the computer screens. I mean. there's a lot of interesting stuff in in richard honors career. I encourage people to dive into that if they have not yet. So all right. Let's talk about an alien tv series. I think we've talked about this on the podcast before but no. Holly is developing an alien. Tv show and he has talked a little bit about the approach for what the show is going to be. And i guess what it's not going to be about chris. What's the latest on the series. Right so no holly said he. He gave away two basic things about the show. One is that ripley sigourney weaver. His character is not going to be on the show. He said quote. Ripley's one of the greatest characters of all time and i think the story has been told perfectly and i don't want to mess with it on. He also added that the show would be set on earth which. I'm pretty sure we knew already. But if there is any doubt he's keys confirming that This is going to take the story to earth. And then he also added a quote on some level it's also a story about inequality you know..
Veteran Hollywood Director Richard Donner Dead at 91
Richard Donner, Director of Superman and Goonies, Dies Aged 91
"The American film director Richard Donner, whose box office hits included Superman and the Woman has died. He was 91. The Warner Brothers studio described him as a pioneer of the modern superhero horror and action genres. The BBC's Adam Porter looks back at his life. Richard Donna began his career as an actor before becoming a TV director. After directing the Omen in 1976. He found international acclaim for his work on Superman. With Christopher Reeve, often regarded as the first modern superhero film. His hits in the 19 eighties included the Goonies and the Lethal Weapon series starring Mel Gibson and Danny Glover. Gibson said. Richard Donner had a huge chunk of humility, referring to himself as merely a traffic cop, while Steven Spielberg said Donna was like a favorite coach, smartest professor and
Richard Donner, Director of ‘Superman’ and ‘Lethal Weapon’ Dies at 91
"Passed away. He's uh, producer, a director Richard Donner, and he did the original Superman movies. He did lethal weapon which launched Mel Gibson. I think into the stratosphere and, uh, did good Goonies and a lot more I wanted we'll learn more about him in this subsequent conversations. I wanted to bring on someone who happens to be a dear friend of mine, and I haven't talked to him forever. And you know, I I used to see him all the time. And but he's now left Hollywood and he has a place here in a place in the East Coast. And you know, I just never never a chance to cross paths with a guy who was Richard Donner's right hand guy for a long time. He's Mills Goodloe Mills. Goodloe. Welcome, Sir. Hello, March. It's really exciting to talk to you again. First of all, let me say And, uh, I'm so sorry that Richard Donner has passed. I know he had a rich life. Meaning, uh, so relevant to show business for so long, and, uh, Uh, so again. I'm so sorry for his passing. But I appreciate you spending a moment, uh, with us to talk about who he was and what he did. Yeah, I I got the news today. And I was you know, it hit me hard had spent, you know, eight years of my life with him, And when I was in my early twenties, right out of college, so he was During my kind of formative years, someone who kind of formed who I was, um as a young as he as a young kind of kid out of college and do anything so he know where I left working with them in 2000. But, um, he's always been a deer part of my life and always be that way. When you've had a robust career
Wonder Woman 1984 movie review: Patty Jenkinss sincere sequel soars despite its flaws
"I'm so glad you can be here with us to talk about wonder woman. Nineteen eighty-four now. To set up the plot of this movie as best i understood. It wonder woman nineteen eighty-four revolves around magic rock. That grants wishes pedro. Pascal plays maxwell lord huckster who wants of course ultimate power over the universe. Kristen wig play nerdy anthropologist Who will later transform sort of. She's all that style into the frightening nemesis cheetah. And if you're wondering how. Chris pine is in this movie considering how wonder woman ended. Just do not worry about it because it will become a somewhat clear. Glenn we were all i think. Fans of the twenty seventeen wonder woman. What did you think of this. Well i think this is It's bright it's entertaining. It was frequently funny. Which i enjoyed. It can't help but lack the kind of simple story power narrative power of that twenty seventeen film because that was our first real glimpse of the character was an origin story and the villain was so unambiguously evil. The kaiser chemical weapons the god of war. What i like about this film. Is that the tone in the first half. Seems like a direct image to the nineteen seventy richard. Donner superman at some people. Have pointed out and i'm all for that but this had its own story to tell it does lose. Its way about halfway because that's when some pretty dark and muddy. cgi takes over. Which i couldn't really get over because this film has been sitting on the shelf for while had lots and lots of time. And the fact that the siege. I still look so weightless in this kind of surprise me and look the superhero film has been around for over half a century now and we still haven't learned it's important lesson which is that more is less one villains enough people if you know what you're doing pick one and stick with it. I mean these characters work when they're coming from a place of moral clarity and they're standing against someone of equal and opposite. You know immoral or amoral clarity. Now you can say the two villains who worked in batman returns because those villains if you're or call were the penguin and cat woman. They already had a cultural footprint. They were firmly planted in the wider culture. You just can't say the same thing about the cheetah and maxwell lord they just don't have that kind of i hate this word. Stickiness essential stickiness. I do have a theory. Why this movie was so light on. Big action set pieces. I think has to do with essential makeup of the character. I'll get to that later. But look all you gotta know is i grew up with lynda carter wonder woman and the super friends and something happened at the one hour and ten minute mark and assume that may be stand up off mme couch and
The Dark Knight Trilogy (Nolan #4)
"Welcome to film spotting so Josh. We've arrived at the stage of our Nolan who've review where we've actually reviewed the films on the show previously the first three films in the series following Memento and insomnia all predate film spotting this week. We're revisiting Nolan's dark knight trilogy. Two thousand five's Batman begins which started. It was one of the first films reviewed on the show. Way Back in two thousand five. That movie came out in June. The show began in March of. Oh five unfortunately. Our Review on episode eighteen of the show has been archived in the basement of Wayne Industry headquarters along with all the other films. Spotting PROTOTYPES COW. Can't hear me out among the disappointed listeners. Who went to search for that review? Just today thinking I'd be able to hear Sam. I thought it would be good preparation you know like to do. My homework. Couldn't find it so we'll have to unearth that at some point. Yeah I'll have to give you a tutorial on searching the archive film spotting website. Because it's there but you can bet. I did not seek it out interest in listening to the archive that I found only went back to. I forget what show but it wasn't this one so yeah I'll have to get to to`real but with that review lost a time. I guess the best thing we can do for now is move on to version two point. Oh world like to disappear. Barron staff was not for the parents to serve. Justice cannot let pass. If you yourself and you become something else. Dialing our Christopher Nolan overview stays on chronological track at least for the moment with two thousand five's Batman Begins Adam. This is Nolan's big-budget high profile. Follow up to insomnia which itself was a medium budgeted studio. Follow up to his indie breakout. Memento what did I expect from Batman begins in two thousand? Five Nolan was already on my radar as a special talent superhero movies. Were something I enjoyed but aside from Tim Burton's Batman Installments and Sam Raimi's Spiderman Efforts Spiderman. Too by the way came out in two thousand and four I felt Comic Book Films. Usually fell into a fairly predictable box. The question for Batman begins then was whether or not the John. Laura would bend to Nolan's promise or Nolan would bend to the genre in two thousand five to my mind. Nolan's will one out even next to Burton and Raimi's Work Nolan's take on the superhero film stood out as distinct. It was dark. It was intense and above all it was rooted in a real world. Specificity that was recognizable while building his costume. I love that Bruce Wayne Orders some ten thousand bat ears that turn out to be unusable. This Bruce Wayne and even Batman could exist just like us he had to do Amazon returns. That first impression of Batman begins makes me think that I watched it through the Lens of a Superhero Movie. Perhaps with tempered expectations this time. Though in the midst of our review I was decidedly watching it through the Lens of a Christopher Nolan movie and from that perspective keeping in mind masterful later efforts like the prestige which was Nolan's next film the Dark Knight which doubles down on much of what made Batman begins so throwing inception and dunkirk. That begins played as far more conventional. It has Nolan touches to be clear deception traumatized characters narrative twist but they each seemed a bit better towards the genre this time around something of a compromise. If in understandable one given where Nolan was in his career ultimately I think my original impression is probably the correct one and we can maybe get into a tangent here atom on whether or not a films original context matters. Most I think that's especially applicable. Maybe to dark knight rises but either. Way Adam. I'm curious what frame of mind you're in while revisiting Batman begins for our Nolan overview. Did you approach it as a superhero movie which in twenty twenty means contending with the reality of the MC you or did you assess it more? On a Nolan scale you know from interstellar on the bottom to the top where you'll find dunkirk. How dare you? I love how you unnerve me heading into my reply here and maybe that's appropriate because even though you answered it. I see what you're trying to do I'm onto you. You're actually previewing are pending discussion of the Dark Knight by presenting me with a joker like Dilemma Harvey. Rachel press the button and kill the other passengers. Risk them killing me Nolan movie or Superhero Movie. Your just an agent of chaos. Josh always knew what do I look like a guy with plan on one hand? I wasn't looking at this film. This trilogy of films as a Nolan creation consciously and I am it would be happening unconsciously of course just by the nature of this little project that we have set out on at the same time. I was eager to see this origin story again because just like I suppose bruce being forever scarred by his encounter with the bats I'm gonNA forever be blessed with the memory of my first superhero movie. Richard Donner's Superman. It's been talked about a little bit over the years here on the show and among its many thrills it shows us who Clark is how we got Earth those early discoveries of his gifts running alongside the train kicking that football. This first demonstrations of his abilities and helping people as Superman. That's the stuff I ate up. Then that's the stuff. I still eat up now. The Fun stuff. I guess that equate with Superhero movies. That is lost the darker. You alluded to this the darker. The more realistic the more serious. These movies get honestly the more these films feel less like Superman and more like James Bond. And that's definitely the case in this trilogy. I think this is where we really see. It happen right. Where Superhero Movies did turn into? Something else became something else in pop culture. We watched it unfold over the course of these. Three movies didn't we? I think that's fair. I think you could roll in watchmen there but that was two thousand nine so this was ahead of that.