20 Episode results for "Respiratory Disease"
"The vet podcast. But the vet gurus brandon and mock get ready for the lightest veterinary news. Information and entertainment. Dark forget to visit us at the vet gurus website bekker's dot com. Now sit back relax. It's up to the vet. Gurus brendan and mock. Welcome to the lakers. Brendan here with mark as usual. Episode one seventy-nine march the fifth. Two thousand and twenty one twenty twenty one mark and they now is through the covert. What sort of recovery year. I suppose we're going to be calling this hopefully and here in australia. They've started releasing on getting the vaccine at haven't thought to the To the first line health workers. It said i some of the other countries where listeners a willing advance with vaccine rolette so I don't know why vets will bay mark. But i think we might be slightly higher up lists and some of the other parts of the population. But i haven't seen anything stating that or not. Have you might i. It is a little bit unclear. Because i don't think they actually stick. It's sort of like refers to one document in another document. I think we fit into category one. Which will be towards the end of this month. Ice dot spreading the the the doses around to the one b category but tummy hits pretty amazing. That way i m y gobsmacked that within the And these vaccines on at least initially would appear to be Very effective And and really changing. The course. don't think we'll be without carnivora horoscope tom. Certainly the the The the vaccines made a world of difference and we'll get as soon brandon. The very effective at mind. Control these vaccines. According to the conspiracy theorist yes they My son bay lot. The flu vaccine one that enya annual annual jabs at spate down the track. Can i have to kate. Kate change in them so workwise well as usual lots of interesting things happening And some not interested things. My had had a frustrating case with a us nyc Unfortunately had had a snake that Passed away that we did. Some swaps for the viruses can came back positive fatu of the viruses And unfortunately we'll all be finding the client. Tomorrow omlund off got the results just pay for. They do have other snakes at I'll be given the bad news. That i recommend swabbing all of the snakes in collections and by the time they may struggle was that as far as Costco as well Unfortunately this night that pasta y Was flying dan from another dight mark. sinai to strongly advise they contact the braida and might show that denies it. This night that was sent down into state was was positive for the virus mackin and marketplace mursal. So that's going a bit of a sad discussion with that with that. I must be had in. I if if people who don't put ourselves in the shoes of our clients often enough with with this way to really depress you. Wouldn't that have if you found something. It's an interesting Case that you're dealing with brendan but it is something that seems to happen to often. Exotic animal practice with increasing frequency. And like you said it's it's difficult enough enough for us to be delivering Bad news i'm really bad. News but for our clients who've often committed huge amount of financial resources not to mention the emotional resources to literally be given the poultry solution of of Collin raye stock Later it's a. It's a very difficult circumstance and often really pleased with how rip talk clients we. We are getting an increasing number of people who are interested in getting those virus tests. Dumb a student that they're all emotionally equipped to deal with the consequences Inside game i feel feel client to get that funchal tomorrow. Yes well let's start off in a bit of data they What are you up to date. We need some positive news for our fretless. Usually when we have chit chat at the beginning of podcast with Reflecting on the last few days but on sort of looking forward for the next few days brennan as you. Now of acquired a quantum small full will drive and And more of being out in a four wheel drive a number of times. I'd have no formal training and And so i'm going to do a course of full drive costs credited full wheel drive a ma. Dr mark simpson mark simpson. So the bachelor of whom could well be. A bachelor goes gates. Giving with me on the wade. We're both doing it so it might well be a you'll of by the end of it. Yes so as talking off before we started Expected are probably hopefully not but I wouldn't be surprised if i he sent me. If i know of of the of the car on its roof with you with a little sideline science. I flipped the car. Time push to farm just to stay saif and learn how to be safe with your forward. That's the plan should be fun though brandon excellent. Well let's jump into some new stories And thank you to sponsors as usual at three men. Sponsors specialized animal nutrition microchips. Stri and the third one is back at a chemical essentials to just chemical. It's just checking towards won't token there. Yes thank you to us bunsen. Al patriots'll piccione dot com mentioned it for al-qaeda petron. Kawhi website fit to come. Look it up pasta besides and have a think you bet supporting as a couple of dollars. High pipe news stories. Might you've got to tighten the first do now that i've just read it while you've victoria at us. I'm the Fails to me like him. This is one of How i suppose al podcast themes i'm we've we've touched on a number of different studies which Examine different aspects of of this idea. And i like this one as well. This fun Is an article discussing how having pets is linked to mental health and reducing loneliness during the lockdown a particular coronavirus focus on the Wellness benefits of owning pets and as we have discussed in previous As we've discussed previous articles sharing home with a pit does seem to act as a buffer during suckle against psychological stress another Health events But this new survey suggests that even more important during the period of lockdown on it was a question a and more than ninety percent of the respondents said they pits help them cope emotionally with the lockdown. Must people who took patent the research thought they pits were source of considerable support during the march. Twenty three to june lockdown. So many of these discussions brandon. I sort of think that tom. It's great to have a the numbers and the commentary from the respondents but that it's that hugely surprising one of the interesting findings They were six thousand participants in the survey in the uk. and ninety percent of them had at least one pet and one of the strange fundings. Strange i i didn't expect it was that the strength of the human animal bond was determined to not be significantly different between species so if you had a a cat or adult That you know the the Bond was not that different if you had a guinea pig oracular or efficient. I think that some that something. That we've intuitively knowning Exotic animal practice. But it's really probably the first time. I've seen it statistically attested to well hall silly paper but spent many thousands of dollars buy A hot dog or cat turning covid could've gone net and put fish and they should which is which is a perfect segue to my story. My news article which It's it's written as a positive story. But i'm not quite sure if you say. The headline is disabled. Fish gets special. Lifejacket might to help him swim. And it's about an got lots of puns in them. I is appropriately. Resume while large this fun and inventive. Uk woman as might wives on the line wives. Yes after ed fitting in a disabled goldfish was a customized lifejacket so it wouldn't sink and i'd like this. Mark had been living on the bottom of his tank upside down for some time. Stacey shy here runs a saint tree for a high as permanent told the news organization. The unfortunate fishy had suffered from an untradable swim bladder disorder. According to the article that left in sitting upside down on the bottom of his tank. Now interestingly enough. I think if he had a decent problem was upside danny would not vain lasting very long but anyway she managed to do a macgyver mac and she got tiny plastic to and t junctions normally used for air conditioning filters and she white down the device with police starin- so the fish wouldn't flight to the surf's episode and she adjusted the ballast according And i might be one day. She decided she wanted the fish to be near the top side. She'd lifted the balance off a little bit and she'd allow them to see more of his time as as as she spoke about side. And we'll have linked to the article at nine. Am the little contraption that saran this goldfish. it looks like something out of Well something of a holiday. Doesn't it loya. Hannibal lecter as affi later. Say yes talks a little bit about that Potentially swim blended diseases etcetera cetera. One of the things like market does not mentioned all the fact that Which probably didn't happen that she didn't take the fish to a vet to an exotic set to get the problem. Fixed dine is probably does seem to be a little bit of an over emphasis on aquarium store employees who were providing some advice for this this issue yes yes whereas if she had taken it to- veterinarian she would have provided dumb the fish which som excellent euthanasia solution and could advice. So it's a bit of a trick you on this one. What do you think about this. I look you've you've already hit the nail on the head as usually do because i worry that the the these stories as they make it into the media by raise the expectation of of people who i fish that they will be able to do the same thing in they avoid getting bitten advice and overall i think it probably does a little bit of harm to the overall population. It certainly shows the dedication to making. The fish have good quality of life but i just wish we had been standing. You know it was automatic to talk to the vet about aram about these problems in get a diagnosis and get treatment and Mike the fish completely well rather than make it. Look like hannibal lecter. Yes well said back will say. I'm interested story neville nevertheless well. Let's jump into it. We've we work into film review on. Just divide him whether or not. We should do this film review mac this way. I think we'll leave it this way. But it's we've been working at white opt to it for some time now. We have a bit of an interesting one. That's one that i suggested you look at it. Bit of classic science fiction film. But we will. Let's do it next week mark. Let's next week and we'll jump into the new story. Because this is one that you will use of suggested. Half of this pattern is a chronic. Respiratory disease in rodents which we have covid previously Actual driving that colts is often the ideology of edna and the bicyc- sort of treatment. Modalities for it but this time again to chat a little bit about control of its is not not the actual medical treatment aspects of it but the other general sort of Care of the animals that has chronic respiratory disease at rachel that mail that In vets my my forget about back. And i just get stuck on the anti-biotics bronchitis light is set to to to us on that animal. And then we're going to have a little quick day dive into the ethics of treating these chronic respiratory disease cases. Let's get stuck into the control Sundays lodged bite is. But what's what some of the things that we often mentioned to the clients that can obviously provide some help with these days animals apart from the medical trailing will i. I think we've all got a pretty good handle on the medical treatments. But i think that That there are some of those peripheral husbandry issues and interestingly enough i i m saying increasingly as i pay attention to ventilation And to Environmental stimulation leading to exercise. I think that that facilitates Medical care and i'm pretty confident that these things way saying much longer periods of time that we can manage our respective rats on these On these zim medical protocols before they reached the point where quality of life is no longer acceptable. So tell me about. Tell me about some of these things. So tell me about Told me bad substrate and sort of enclosure furniture etcetera for them. What things My help Ojo or conversely what things are bad that may contribute to the coronavirus fridges. As what do you recommend to. The clients has set setup with the during clashes will the first thing we recommend is that come with these rats. It's much much more important to have very frequent That the substrates at just about any substrate is going to cause problems If it's left for long periods of time and particularly because our rats will unite in the substrate. Whatever it is they will be a buildup of those Volatile ammonia nitrogenous wastes on the highly. Highly irritant to the wise in. And that's one of the big things making sure that they not they. But of course brennan the dust that society headed with particular substrates and one of my generally favorite substrates the a recycled newspaper kitty litter. We wadley for many purposes in the hospital. it's probably one of the few times that we tend to not use a product because it does tend to Like many of the other routine substrates Provide a little bit of dust. The you've got to be careful about the wood shavings that egmont us in circumstances. We all are way that the Many of the the shavings that are not specifically designed as a animal bidding might come from timbers that contain volatile oils and we might be able to smell them but the rats close proximity to the substrate monte enough to those to set off a problem so we really usually looking at relatively plying Substrates that provide dust and And dumb to have some absorptive qualities says sometimes would just using absorbent paper or own newspaper brennan. Yes and i think. I'm a bit skeptical. Allies substrates that have marketed. Not just for the reidents but if we brought a with reptiles et cetera and often they're just just the way they get rid of Sort of waste products and and make a little bit of money to ta- marketed as a reptile specific bedding or or in specific beden and. Thank you spot on with mike. Ensure quizzing the clients. And i have a good idea to get the cons to bring in a sample of the bed in that they have in the enclosure. Because timeout silo could celebrate saw Newspaper cat litter talk. Productivity does vary is still recommend is but some of the air Really dusty in that. So thank you gotta be careful what particular brands. I'm using for them And mike ensure that what tried to limit the limit the dust in the potential volatile products. That might be released is other sort of wooden off. Memory chip united wood chips etcetera. That used in. There's well which leads me to the second. One which ventilation isn't american. It's amazing what some some of the clashes of people cape their rights and they might sin Now whether you get many up your way mark. But i've had a few clients over the years that house it right so they mice just a little. I'm a little aquarium yet to that too. Yeah tha that's that's a very good one yeah As in it's not a perfect example. Yes current not good. I think because aside many aquariums that It's not ready for people have an old Aquarium sitting around lie. decide to get a massar. Ratnam says. I used that of the enclosure but the other one is a is a is a suit aside table chest of drawers. I'm not sit next to you. Bit dream next abed machen i just. I not want to strolls in. I converted to the to the little little rhetoric Of the mass in closer and again virtually zero ventilation apart from when they have the draw ripe and and not just literally. Have it happen to little bit. That's that's it rather massing closure a little bit A problem with my malts mark in speaking have must must admit that the com- combination of one washing hold the clydes so the pain set there for years on the back of the underpants. The back of the draw and also Using nuys Eucalyptus infused Bowls wooden bowls mac Seemed to have worked. That's excellent news. Same to of wax i Does the spread of away. I mean all the drawers in the bedroom As nontoxic little clip to of Polls that i bought off api. And i say to be joined. The job so ventilation is really important for these Reidents machen i'm yes with the clients and yet demise him what sort of crazy and clashes hype have for the for the literati and they morrison and yet this does very little if any ventilation for them just a little bit up the top us. Light is Little little aquarium tanks mark. and. I think we've way strongly recommending that That are lots of our rat earners will allow the rats to wanna around pretty freely before they returned today catch for safety reasons and we like iowa ones we liked the high levels of insulation that occurring in a y cages. I think that's Al starting point we do. What about One of the one of the real difficulties. I have in. This topic is His things like Incense cigarette smoking and things that the papal bring to the the circumstance that they often well onto you brennan. But it's not uncommon for may to recognize the the yellowish stein in curved indent of cigarettes. Mica at the same time as it showed me that there's no way the yelm. The outbreak could be exposed to cigarette. Smoke yes hedge. Well fortunately saying less and less apparent. Anyway i'm cigarette. Smokers as clients clinic back. So i say let's not living up in newcastle with all the talk just cigarettes. It's an end even know last g When we had extended periods through december and january just before covered hit when there was lots of smoke around That we had lots of animals getting allergies and would is sort of here. That does sort of talks does bloom yourself Old is hold is crazy. Dust storms that said trendy. The other thing is that happened to me. Is that you know i'll be running through this. Nothing that could irritate eretz. Fallow does the biddings claim. There's no menu Yes neither is no chance of that. Because we've got a sainted candle in the room and that mosques it'll yes yes so we don't want. We want good ventilation. Fresh air and put your in. An aquarium was who end up needing a little flotation device. The other couple of other general things before get on the other the other half of this waitressing interesting topic of the of trading these animals with chronic respiratory disease other rodents anyway is The simple act of mike ensure they are on a good dot com and as she was when because we do miceli with unusual pets. It is amazing. How many of the patients we say that are not quite right of any species that just by the simple at of fixing the diet my putting them on a half decent dot oled better they magically improve from old as weird and wonderful clinical signs that they have uncertain decent tied after a few weeks in the hell of lot. Better could max. What's your recommendation for the basics of good diet for these rats and mice have goals k. Thing is to have a good quality. rat Specific rat You know the base of the dutch should be one of those pellets. Just the one that we recommend most frequently. Obviously the this show is the ox bow product. thin. Just an occasional grind. All the key thing we think of that with the diet with our rats brennan is that we want to Control the calories the rats That even carry just a little bit of extra weight. It massively increases the difficulty. They have in breathing. And if i have any pulmonary compromise and they moving a heavier white oath the the fact that subcutaneous around the chest if gotta push through narrowed or thanks because the chummy cheeks impinge on that plays a huge role in the quality of life and so Just making sure that we do that. High quality based to the with one of high quality pellets. And that we limit the total caloric intake. It's not just ad lib on that we measure out how much they get each day and we keep an eye on the white. And i think that's really important point mathieu. You often always tend to recommend to the clients. Actually why the man to the that could quality pelted food and take it x. grabs net sold. I get for that twenty. Four twelve or twenty four hours and danko iphone and then the other part of the what i recommend my for good quality dot is an almost like an ed ad. Lib amount of a variety of Giving them things to buy s- eight but also apply around and exercise a mind as well So i tend to muscle of one minute. Recommendation for conscious a small amount of a good quality right and pero pellet And then having a second ball of Vegetable matter at which has ad libbed whatever's in season mainly leafy sort of jason that can be virtually a wide range of of vegetables Yummy okay. let's jump into what. What's the heaviest. read that you saying. I wouldn't guarantee this is the heaviest they get over a kilo. We've had more than one ivory kahlo and it's heavy. I think the heaviest of has nine hundred sixty s. i the fat rat tat. I think. I definitely have the sensation that they not long for at the united way all know that i am to three full year. Old is a ripe old age for a rat. Andom those ones that nine hundred thousand grams. They they unlikely to make the right bold ideas in my opinion brennan. Well that's a bit of a segue to what you wanted. To have a brief bat a nazi ethics trae teen chronic respiratory disease in reidents. Max i what hop up on your side box with interests it has to Tell us tell us a lot. The reason i raised. This topic was. Because i i hope like this. In when you get to a certain age brandon you get to a certain age and you stop thinking about illegal. What are you gonna leave behind. And i'd like to think that amongst the the Many belly laughs that Someone says you know that mark. He was He was pretty. Good with these antibiotic stewardship. He did the right thing you know. He didn't add to antibiotic resistance. He was conscious of all these sorts of things. I think most veterans wood somewhere in the vast legacy appreciate the same sentiment and of course. The dilemma becomes In being a veterinarian who looks at rats what do you do when you literally have to have the saw to In some form or another maybe run a little bit against the general guiding principles of Of excellent antibiotic stewardship and spies unwanted cheese. This forum to to canvas. What i what other people thought about it and carry something to send us their id's but also just to point out that. I think this is one of those circumstances way Where it is faily. Reasonable to first of all Mike plan for extensive and to body treatment. And maybe even Things like pulse atoll episodic Planned at basaltic treatment. Not biting until the condition relapses butting. Indeed planning specific antibiotic use the use of multiple antibiotics on the use of some antibiotics. That might be considered primarily bacteria static with bacteria soldal drugs End end trading. The the collection of rats has am as a as a as a hood off What is the collective name for group the rats but treating them as a group rather than Making it necessary For a client to bring in h individual rat each time they need antibiotics and i wanted to To espouse my personal opinion That provided the veterinarian has an existing relationship with the client and a history that they've discussed The details in nitra of disease that they maintain communication about it. I don't think it's inappropriate. Will on ethical to them to prescribe antibiotics outside what we would normally Routinely think as a as a sensible way to do it is a deceit. They'll come a time. When it will be something that the the veteran boards might look at and say long term treatment or control of respiratory disease in pet rats and mice is a ni- by stung by on issues with these particular antibiotics. I'm i don't think they will. That's my gut feeling. I don't think it's likely to mischief rats mistress. of course it is. I should have looked that up before. A group of mice are group. Rats mischief frats. Well that's not quite as controversial. What they men. Mac and i think it's already doing that. Trait in trading some of these lock hood health situation. As far as how often you'd say that particular client if the have a Several mischief rats that are on on enough the antibiotics yet. We definitely have a number of clients who Who would you know. Initially they might have some of them. Might have seven. I ten rats way would counsel them to separate the ones that have research traders. As from the ones that way would counsel them to try and develop some form of all lean out You know white have this cohort. Let them go through They lost cycle And do not add new ones to the collection And i we might do a A consult that looks at A significant proportion role of them And then Be happy to mica. Plan to prescribe antibiotics for Twelve weeks maybe. Twenty four weeks maintain contact and get some vital information from the The people Mike maybe even with got a couple of clients now who regularly send us short. Bits of footage that we had to the medical record and then maybe pick selected animals to progress exams that this would be a stand pretty standard way that we deal with. Maybe half a dozen of eric At the moment is very similar. Mock in my practice with them. The good content to balance. Isn't it it. it's i think it's a little bit analogous to design chronic conditions in any species including dogs and cats way to bounce between how often is. Is it Ethical pies to me nine complete bloods every every way or three. Oh can we string that. Out to to several several months i And during the rotting by the animal own my controller monitoring things as far as medications as well and the sign with the visits the visits with the animals and As long as we that s what what surprise the boj's marsha that the animals on do care nitsana and at some sane frequently enough and Whatever that might be an an anais at the mont be some legislative area areas with specific time periods. Nighmare in quite some location. Don't think by. I think biolog- most of the legislation is in australia at least lacey's friend in terms of Tyler tyler net for the individual. I think the veterinarian has to justify The the client patient Veterinarian relationship. I should shoot him and the circumstances that that tom you know you have to you. You would never be Seem to have done the right thing. If you had not seen the animals at all ever been with to prescribe antibiotics that would be outside l. l. remit and would be cause for serious concern. But if you have You know it's like an animal that has sages you when you first initially established them on anti convulsants. You are doing Blood sweat to make sure that The not doing damage to delivering that. You maintaining therapeutic levels but once an animal becomes stabilized. You not gonna do that every three or four weeks as you said you. Stretch it out to six months while the animals stable and and maintain a dialogue Mike show that you communicate with them and and touch on the mind things to look out full and maximum animals quality of life. While said it's almost as if you've that s legislations mac Any any final comments before we before we head off and come back again next week. The any other ethical consideration. And you and i say this quite regularly is that the respiratory disease in In rodents is one of those things that dumb that i think we should always talk to people about. Its inexorable decline to spot appropriate treatment despite appropriate been. There is almost always a point at which Everything the compensates It's not unreasonable to canvas the him. I knew tonight Tom they don't necessarily have to be in end. Stage for i to contemplate humane euthanasia. There are many animals many rats that we know a headed in that direction. The next few weeks that we talk about euthanasia. And i think it's good in the earliest stages of this disease to get people across the idea that they're going to have to make that decision at some point and i do sort of hinted that the even the very first consult with that client with the respiratory right at malcolm when i talk about the course of the disease and that some of the man taran very quickly announces last longer. If we're lucky with with with control and and and thirty An ideal mention that a does get them in the end And we we have a short discussion about that failure. La owning the course. And it's always good to good to start. Canvas is is sings. And i'm the inevitable's happen. Isn't it happened and earlier than we think. Would some of these animals lot as animals that are not quite long left in my head. These disease is endemic in the population. There didn't end on bad night. Talk i think the try man's here and we'll talk to you next week. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening to the vet podcast. By the vet gurus time. Forget to visit us at the website. Gurus dot com where you can subscribe view show nights listen the previous episodes and more you can contact by email and vic gurus g mile dot com to ask the question or just say hi. Thanks again and see you next time.
Novavax Reports Its COVID-19 Vaccine is 96% Efficacious, Based on Phase 3 Trial Results
"Nevada's reports its covid. Nineteen vaccine is ninety. Six percent efficacious bastogne phase three trial results by alice. Park novak's reported on march eleventh. That its covid. Nineteen vaccine is ninety. Six percent efficacious in reducing mild moderate or severe disease. The maryland based company joins the handful of manufacturers that have reported encouraging data on a covid nineteen vaccine three pfizer bio tech moderna and johnson and johnson's janssen pharmaceuticals have already received emergency use authorization for their shots from the us. Food and drug administration. Novak's revealed the final results of its phase. Three human trials of envy x covy. Two three seven three in a press release. The findings have not been submitted for peer review scientific journal yet. The company reported that overall it's vaccine was ninety six percent efficacious in protecting people from mild moderate or severe covid nineteen disease if they were infected with the original sars cuvee to virus. The vaccine was slightly less efficacious at eighty six percent and protecting against disease if people were infected with the b one one seven strain of the virus which is becoming dominant in the uk where the study was conducted that gives the vaccine and overall efficacy of eighty nine point seven percent against both the original and uk variance by comparison visor bio and tech's vaccine is ninety five percent efficacious against cove nineteen disease. Maderna's is ninety four percent and johnson and johnson's is sixty six percent in an ongoing phase. Two b study of the vaccine in south africa where a more worrisome variant is increasingly responsible. For a growing share of new infections novak's. His shot is so far fifty five percent efficacious and protecting against covid nineteen symptoms. I did not think it was possible to have a vaccine. Prevent ninety six percent of any respiratory disease says the gregory glenn president of research and development that novak's that's outstanding and. I'm personally ecstatic. If you had asked me a year ago to predict the very best vaccine we could expect. I would have said eighty or eighty five percent efficacy against any respiratory disease would be pretty amazing. Glenn joined the company just over a decade ago. Because he was intrigued by its vaccine strategy and the case of covid nineteen that entails inserting the gene for a sars covy to protein into an insect virus and then infecting cells from an armyworm the larval stage of a type of moth that infects cabbages with this modified virus. Those cells then act like a living copying machine pumping out copies of the sars cuvee two protein that protein is then suspended in a molecular bubble and injected into the body where human immune cells recognize it as foreign and mount defenses against it. It's a beautiful system for making the sars covy to protein says glen it has to be made with absolute fidelity especially for a viral respiratory disease. Or it doesn't work and today. We are announcing validation of that system. The strategy is designed to mimic as closely as possible. The way viruses would activate the immune system during natural infection. That's a potential advantage since such a response is in theory the one that is broadest and most complete and likely that provides the most protection. The company has used the technology in a flu vaccine but some of the steps including extracting the sars covy to protein from the armyworm cells developed specifically for the covid nineteen vaccine novak says phase three trial included more than fifteen thousand people in the uk ranging in age from eighteen to eighty four years. Old half of whom were randomly assigned to get the vaccine which is given in two doses and half of whom received placebos only five cases of severe covid nineteen were reported in the study all among those getting the placebo while encouraged by the results. Glenn says his team like those at the other vaccine manufacturers are studying whether a booster dose might be needed to sustain the level of protection. The study found vaccine. Immunity doesn't last forever. He says i think the immune response is going to fall off after six to twelve months. And we're going to need to boost. Nova vaccine is also studying a so called by vaillant vaccine targeted against both the original sars. Cov two and the more worrisome south african variant boosting would this vaccine glenn says would provide the broadest protection glenn wouldn't specify how much of the stockpile of doses the company has already manufactured but says novak is in discussions with both uk and us regulators about next steps to prepare for possible authorization. The company hopes to file for emergency use authorization in the us during the next quarter in the meanwhile start to increase production with manufacturing partners in india spain uk korea and japan nova vaccines vaccine can be stored at refrigerated temperatures which could make attractive for more vaccination sites that don't have the freezer capabilities that the bio tech and modern vaccines require. The company has committed to providing one point one billion doses of its vaccine to the global kovacs enterprise run jointly by the world health organization gabby and the coalition for epidemic preparedness innovations.
#B326 (byname to Byzantinist)
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It is the next word which is b. y. o. b. abbreviation for. Bring your own booze. That's one of them. Also bring your own beer also bring your own bottle so many different options for that one And then we know we change it up if you want to bring your own food. It's b. y. o. f. but that sound weird okay. Next is bypass. I form noun from eighteen. Forty eight one a passage to one side especially a deflected route usually around a town. The lots of highways have bypasses to a a channel carrying a fluid around a part and back to the mainstream to be one. The synonym is the one b definition for the word shunt s. h. u. n. T. and then to be to is the one see definition for the word shunt and then also a surgical procedure for the establishment of a shunt as in have a coronary bypass and fun fact. I actually have started recording. The sees and there is a word coming up in a couple episodes. That is very much related to this one You never wanna get bypass surgery so make sure that you eat healthy and exercise next is the second form of bypass it is a transitive verb from seventeen. Thirty six one eight to avoid by means of a bypass as in bypass a congested area. One be to cause to follow a bypass to a to neglect or ignore usually intentionally to be. Synonym is circumvent as in attempting to bypass the law. Don't attempt that that's just dumb. Next is by past p. a. s. t. adjective from the fifteenth century. And the synonym is bygone by the way. If this sounds a little bit different that's because we are sitting in our dining room where it is much more echoey usually. I'm just sitting on my bed. Okay next is by path. Path now from the fourteenth century and the synonym is by way which we must be. Get into yet later. This episode next is by play noun from eighteen. Twelve action engaged in an action engaged in on the side while the main action proceeds as during a dramatic productions. So there's during a play and there's a bunch of stuff happening but then there's some other stuff happening off to the side and you can call that the by play. That's a very interesting thing. Okay next is by product by hyphen product noun from eighteen fifty seven one something produced in a usually industrial or biological process in addition to the principal product to a secondary and sometimes unexpected or unintended. Result the bribe. Byproduct of this podcast is that i am learning lots of good stuff and i hope you are too sharon. Are you learning stuff. Nope that's what i thought. Next is buyer be uae r. e. noun from before the twelfth century it is chiefly british and it just means a cow barn. This is akin to the. Let's see old english booed which means dwelling and there's more at the word bauer or bower so. The cow barn is a buyer next is by road alike by and then road that street road noun from sixteen sixty five. The synonym is by way. Next is bisson no cysts b. y. s. s. i n. o. s. i s. noun from eighteen eighty one and patient respiratory disease associated with inhalation of cotton flax or hemp dust and characterized initially by chest tightness shortness of breath and cough and eventually by irreversible lung disease share in. The nurse probably knows a little bit about something little bit something about this. Don't you not at all not coming up here in the midwest. I should say in the chicago area since we don't have a lot of farmers up here. It's not something that i've dealt with But do you know what is happening in In the lungs in bisa notice. I do not have never heard the term. I'm assuming it's Whereas the word respiratory disease associated with installation of a bunch of stuff. It's probably similar to someone breathing in specis or something like that The little fibers. Destroy the longs. Maybe i don't know cuts them up a little bit Yeah not heard of it or maybe get stuck in there. i think i've heard of it But yeah if you're working with stuff like that Make sure that you wear Lots of protection. Because you don't want to breed that bad stuff in rural areas where there's a lot of farms yes So this is from the latin word business which is of fine linen. And that's good for that so next. We have business b. y. s. s. u. s. noun from the fourteenth century. One a fine probably linen cloth of ancient times. This is related to business Number two eight tuft of long tough filaments by which some bivalve molluscs as muscles adhere to a surface and the etymology. Let's see this is from the greek word bissau's which means flax from the hebrew boosts which means linen cloth and that's good for that. Next is by stander now from fifteen eighty four one present but not taking part in a situation or event. Also a chance spectator. Usually we hear this when there's an accident or something and there's just a bunch of bystanders. Watching your next is by st noun from sixteen seventy two a street off a main thoroughfare next as bite b. y. t. e. noun from nineteen sixty to a unit of computer information or storied data storage capacity that consists of a group of eight bits. And that is used especially to represent an alpha alpha numeric character and then compared to the to see definition for the word word So there's there's a bits and then eight bits make up a bite. And then i think it's a thousand bytes makeup megabyte and then etc etc next is by way noun from the fourteenth century one. A little traveled side road aside road that is not traveled upon much to a secondary or little known aspect or field as in meandering more and more in the fascinating by ways of learning and that is from the times literary supplement Yep he's just The byways next is by word noun from before the twelfth century one april verbiage sane. Synonym is proverb to a one that personifies a type two. B one that is noteworthy or notorious. Three synonym is epithet. Four a frequently used word or phrase next we have your leave three words with hyphens noun from eighteen ninety four a request for permission as in imposed without so much as a by your leave and that is a quote from j. l. that steen greenwich stein. Okay next is byzantine. I form capitol b. y. z. A. n. t. I n. e. This is an adjective from sixteen fifty one. One of relating to or characteristic of the ancient city of byzantium to of relating to or having the characteristics of a style of architecture developed by the byzantine empire especially in the fifth and sixth centuries featuring the dome carried on pendon teves over a square and incre station with marble veneer in and with colored mosaics on grounds of gold. That was the longest definition. I've had in a while. It was not prepared for that number. Three of or relating to the church's using a traditional greek right and subject to eastern eastern canon law number. Four is often not capitalized. So we have four. A of relating to or characterized by devious and usually surreptitious manner of operation. As in a byzantine partners struggle for be intricately involved synonym is labyrinths. Seen labyrinthine as in rules of byzantine complexity. Maybe we'll find a picture of this teen empire style with the domes. And now we have the second form of byzantine noun from sixteen fifty one a native or inhabitant of biz antietam and then finally are very very last word for the bees is busy santa nist capital b. y. z. a. n. n. i. n. s. t. noun from eighteen. Ninety two sharon. You're gonna read this one. A student of byzantine culture boom nailed it all right so we had by name. Byu byu bypass bypassed by path by play byproduct buyer by road. Bisa noces business bystander. By st bite by way by word by-your-leave byzantine and byzantine est sharon. What is your word of the episode when choose y. Yeah i figured you would. That is going to be the word of the episode. Those were all the words. And i did. Why would you like to do the honors and open that bottle to celebrate the end of the bees. Yeah we we. Byu obied this We have a following our pattern which is now a pattern. Because there's too we have a brut sparkling wine. Which is a brute which obviously you can go back and listen and learn. What a brute is But we're gonna pop this bottle and have a little bit to celebrate the end of the bees good thing. It's not overflowing cheers. Is there a b word. That means cheers. I don't know we'll just say beers. D- yeah i mean it's on the dry side. I'm not like a big fan of those things but Fun don't breathe in when you were putting something bubbling up to your face because you're just going to breathe in all the bubbles and that happens to me all the time so thank you very much for listening to this We have finished two letters out of the whole alphabet. Starting tomorrow you will start to hear me talk about the sees which is going to be a long one buck lind. Alright you are great. Thank you very much Please go rate and review and share and subscribe and send me messages and send me emails if you want and become a patron if you so like. Thank you very much. And this has been spencer and sharon dispensing information goodbye.
COVID-19 A DIRE MESSAGE TO OUR ELDERLY
"What is it that you know? Those that are over the age of sixty five in that. What should we know about this? And specifically to that really small group experience a much higher you know rate of of an acute reaction. These are great questions so age is interesting and If you look at the average age of death and and this current pandemic as we track it Northern Italy is six to eight years older than southern Italy and so a and it's one of the oldest countries in the world its average as is around forty nine years of age the United States and China about thirty six years of age. So we're thirteen years younger as population. And so when you see the United States having the highest death toll from this thing anywhere else in the world now you need ask what is going on with the United States. Why is the United States? Apparently older biologically. Then it is chronologically. Why is China At the same age average age or know many European countries As similar aged to you know our country why are we dying more and the answer is pretty obvious when you when you rank in chronic disease or health outcomes everything from neonatal death all the way to end to end of life things. The United States ranks thirty fifth in the world by the most friendly measurements from the government watchdog organizations that we might renege closer to to forty six or something in the world. But we're somewhere between thirty fifth and forty ninth in the world where the tail end of all modern societies autumn of list. So if you look the top economies and industrialized nations. We're dead last of health outcomes and so why is the United States dying? Why are we have so many examples of younger people dying? It's because we are sicker than any other nation and so specific to this cove and it turns out that we know that the corona virus both the common cold as well as these know more severe versions of it in and SARS Moore's and Cova binds to a receptor in the lung. That's called that's called ace to in so this as two receptor is expressed naturally on our lung surfaces as we age ace two can go especially if there's respiratory disease. Copd for example has very high ace two expression along the surface we have lots of channels in and COPD is one of the only lung conditions that that puts yet increased. Risk of death from this. The all the rest of our Right it's cardiovascular renal disease coronary disease and cerebrovascular disease these N. diabetes. And like if you look at those co morbidity is that people are dying from and their relationship to this as two receptor gets pretty interesting because as goes up Napoli in in lung tissue from from damaged from Emphysema type things with COPD but not in cardiovascular disease until you add to drugs and so when you add a statin drug suddenly the whole system up regulates receptors. When you add an ace inhibitor. Which is our leading number one recommendation. From all medical societies if you have diabetes heart disease or chronic kidney disease the first drug. You're supposed to be on and you can. You can get sued for Malpractice. If you don't have a patient on one of these drugs is an ace inhibitor. If they don't tolerate. Nay Senator the most common side effect ace numbers is cough because up regulated. The aced yours in in in their lungs. And now they're reacting to their environment abnormally. So if they develop an ace inhibitor. Cough which means change the balance of their reactivity to their environment. Then you need to put them on an AARP which is an androgen receptor blocker which again up regulates a stewart receptors and so- ace inhibitors and. Aarp's are now seem to be a major risk factor. For Death Ron Cogan why because it up regulates the days two receptor and so the United States is the most medical is systems so yes we have high in chronic disease rates and in response to those chronic disease that we put on medications. That are we know are putting you at risk of dying from Khurana Myers. So if we had a true public health organization that was really concerned about the next few months of death from grunt of that just got discovered over in Wuhan Providence. The very first thing we should have done is announced doctors. You need a transition all your patients who are ace inhibitors. Calcium channel blocker or some other form of blood pressure control. Or Hey may put him on a healthy diet but regardless off the ace inhibitor. If we had done that we would have saved thousands of lives take them off the staten. There's no in the absolute risk of dying from a heart attack by taking somebody stat and is near zero for three months. Six month period. So take them off of their stat and put him on on a healthy plant based diet so their classroom doesn't go up and then take them off their ace inhibitor. If we had done that we would have completely changed the death toll in the United States. We knew that these drugs increase to 'em we knew based on SARS and the common cold corona that binds the two receptor. If we had done that we would have saved thousands of lives all over the country not to mention all over the world and then we should have stopped influenza vaccination because an extraordinary study came out in twenty seventeen showing that if we vaccinated for flu your risk of getting thrown of falling your goes up and this is not just corona but six other common respiratory viruses that risk goes up and this is commonly seen. This is a this is a well describe scientific phenomenon that if you get exposed to the real influenza you develop at. What's what's called kind of this transverse immunity where you get immune to bugs that aren't even represented in influenza. You get this this immune system intelligence and you'll were now become resistant to other bugs if you don't get flu and you're you're exposed to an abnormal protein within that flu virus and so you have to mount a Weird Antibi- that you can't get your normal heard type or kind of immune system response to the environment. Then you get increased risk of this so what we should have done is if we really believed that. This thing was ten times more deadly than flu if we well actually said at the beginning of one hundred times more deadly than if they really believed that then in December they should have frozen all influenza vaccines at no more influenza. Vaccines come off your neighbor and your Arab and your statin drug. Don't get influenza vaccine. We're going to cruise through the season because we have a new strain. We didn't do any of those things we know that science and I h knows at science. Cdc knows that science we did not make public. Health moves to protect the community from Corona virus. Why I think we kind of knew. Well I knew right away just gets. I have a calculator anybody with a calculator. As soon as the first cruise ship stopped in Oakland. We knew everything we needed to know about. This had that nobody died on that ship for fourteen days. They were quarantined on that ship. It has a five day Lynn infectious period. You will develop symptoms in five days if you're going to develop symptoms at all and so we should have seen high amounts of blue people and in and you know liver failure and all that on that ship because it was the worst population you could possibly ice. Because they had an average age over seventy on that ship and and there were children running around. So you've got children. Which are the best microbiome swampers outside of dogs? Dogs are are definitely our best but kids from this awesome gift that they're so get at microbial communication and you got kids running around the ship. You've got old people. They're sequestered and they didn't and they didn't sequester they they didn't quarantine those patients away from each other and those initial couple weeks and so it should have been massive death toll ownership and yet. Nobody was even critically. I think one or two people came off critically ill. The rest of the three thousand seven hundred people weren't even there was only one hundred dollars so that was showing the ended. Fourteen days. A few people weeks later died and we said they died of Groenemeyer crossovers definitely in their in their experience. It was present may have contributed in some way unmasking toxicity of their STATIN drugs in their ace inhibitors and their flu vaccine the Yod but ultimately we know that the death toll on that ship was low enough that if we extrapolate over the United States we would see somewhere around a death toll of point one percent maybe point three percent at worst and we know that flu. Can you know in two thousand seventeen was causing a seven percent mortality rate? We knew at the beginning that this was not going to be some massively fatal thing and last we managed it wrong and we did if you like that clip and be sure to check out our live broadcasts of the high wire every Thursday morning at eleven. Am Pacific Time. You can watch it on facebook youtube tunes and twitter. We'll see you there.
Coping With Corona: Tawny and Sam
"Hey guys it's tawny hair for audible dot com as you know. One of my coping mechanisms for dealing with grief is listening to comedy. Fortunately audible has a huge selection of funny titles and shows me to choose from whether I'm looking for a podcast special performance or exclusive audio book. And now when you visit audible dot com slash witty widow you can try audible free for thirty days and get a free audiobook. When you sign up that's audible dot com slash witty widow or text witty widow to five hundred five hundred to get your first month and audiobook totally free. I'm marrying George my soulmate best friend and the love of my life in August. Two Thousand Nineteen. We started in audio production in entertainment company together. He was the editor and I was the voice over talent. Our dream was to use these skills and our business to pursue our true passion comedy. We released the dirty bits. Podcast in two thousand seventeen. And we're on our way to transitioning into producing the show full-time together. But George was terminally ill. He had a congenital heart condition and a respiratory disease similar to kilo sis that claimed his life in November of two thousand nineteen after months of trying to get his insurance to refer him to specialists who could have saved him in the six months leading up to his death. George was mostly homebound on five liters of oxygen day. And I was practicing social distancing. We already work together from home and it didn't matter that I only left the house to do the grocery shopping and walk our little dog. I was with George. We were in comedy together and the business was even growing. If he had been healthy it would have been a pretty perfect life when he abruptly died in our home. I was overwhelmed by grief. I got incredibly sick with an ulcer from the stress of having to immediately go back to work. I had to do Georgia's job in addition to mine while sick and depressed. I'm in a constant state of financial uncertainty and stress. Because they've been largely on my own for four and a half months now is the cove in nineteen epidemic rages on. The world is struggling to cope with a reality that has been mined for nearly a year. Social distancing loneliness anxiety financial insecurity working from home. It's all everything I'm used to and I can't help but feel for people who have never experienced anything even close to this before I myself had felt fairly unaffected by the corona virus. These past weeks. But I'd be lying if I said that sheltering in place while living alone hasn't started taking a toll on me as I've seen what few friends I have locally. Even less than less a heavy depression had begun setting in but then American politicians like Dan. Patrick suggested seniors should be willing to sacrifice their lives for what he deemed the health of the economy and the president of the United States said he was planning on having the country functioning back to normal in about two weeks. He went on to say if it were up to the doctors. They may say let's keep it shut down. Let's shut down the entire world because again you're up to one hundred and fifty countries so let's shut down the entire world in when we shut it down. That'd be wonderful and let's keep it shut for a couple of years. We can't do that. This was a medical problem. We're not going to let it. Turn INTO A long-term financial problem. We're just not going to let it happen death. You know we're talking about death probably more death from that than anything. We are talking about with respect to the virus. I went from depressed. Angry about half a second hand began fantasizing about becoming the pissed off millennials. Answer to Cadmus and while I am now in the midst of planning a revolution. I still need to cope with my in grief along with everything else. That comes with the world's current. Tom Fuck Hurry. That is after all. Why started this podcast. Death is hilarious. I had to get back to work shortly after my husband died and in order to do that I had to cope with what was the end of my world. I wasn't going to be able to do that if I continued to. Produce the show I had created with my late husband. George Nice shared a dark sense of humor. It's what we used to cope with are often dark reality because if you can laugh at death trauma and tragedy you can take away much of its power. It's how I've survived. Thus far I wasn't able to take the time to plan out. The transition of this podcast from the dirty bits to death is hilarious like I really wanted to. It's been largely experimental and my listeners have been witnessed to what seems like a behind the scenes creative process as I navigate my grief using various art forms like writing comedy. Podcasting and performing. It's taken a few months and a few different formats to find my footing. I've had many different creative partners on this journey with me. But one of the most consistent partners has been my dear friend. Sam Sam's not only written many of the guided meditation segments. You'll find on this feed but they've also consulted on others like Monday morning. Mazel and entertaining grief and beyond even all of that. We went to high school together have worked on many artistic projects together and Sam was the mutual friend who set up George in me. The loss of George has been really hard for Sam to and we began coping by channeling our grief into comedy specifically by writing each other funny letters about how we're dealing with. Not only death moss but other traumas in our lives. Those letters are something I'd like to share with you on the show. Death is hilarious. The podcast documents. One voice actors journey coping with the death of her husband using humor and dark comedy as Koefoed nineteen ushers you into a world. I'm all too familiar with. I hope you too can find some hailing and relief in our version of radical acceptance with stories friendship and lots of jokes my creative partner. Salmon. I write each other letters in which we make jokes about grief. Death loss and trauma. Neither Sam or I see each other's letters before we record the episode. Please see the show notes for additional content warnings surrounding this particular episode listener discretion is advised. We are right in the thick of the corona virus. It's been motivating me to find a stay at home projects we actually performed our routine at authenticity fest in San Diego and the routine was kind of something that was based on this concept that we have been working on and it's finally kind of come together and when you know we're allowed to be in public again. We hope to do more shows for now. We'll have this podcast all right. I've not seen this like the words are jumping out of the page at me and already like sweating because this is intense especially if I knew George and I adored him. Someday I'll get into my whole background. He's a treasure. Hero by husband died from complications associated with a respiratory disease and now there's a respiratory disease killing a bunch of people with respiratory issues. Oh my God I'm going to have material for the rest so material for about another six months. Judging by the state of the world we will all be dead and six months. Okay if according to the most reliable news source oh dear. What a time to be alive. A global pandemic economic collapse. And it's not even my birthday. Maybe you won't have to get to thirty. I was handling it all really well until this morning and then my internet went out. I don't do the technology thing. I can't read the troubleshooting guides because I don't know what eighty percent of the they want me to reset even looks like all I can tell me which is the modem which one's the router nobody knows the secret. Unplug everything so I logged into my Internet provider account. Hey you're headed most people. Most people don't know how to do that. I did some like office tech support as part of one of my previous job. So this is. I'm getting flashbacks. Tony logs into Internet provider account. Because I know I paid my Bill God damn it and I see that I had forgotten to pay the bill S. two months because there's just a couple of teeny tiny distracting things that have been going on in my life. I pay my now over two hundred dollar bill and I'm thinking okay. Two hundred dollars definitely hurts like real bad but I have it but if I didn't have it I'm just barely getting back on my feet right as the world is going through this. Unprecedented pandemic precedent in domestic. What do you hate me? What sector too? And I'm like throw this at her. Somebody who's never repeats. I'm just barely getting back on my feet right as the world is going through this unprecedented pandemic economic shift. What if I didn't have two hundred dollars account a lot of people who are out of work don't have that and my Internet provider straight up disconnected me without warning during all of this. Global slaps fook them. And that's why I blacked out and became possessed by the spirit of my mother. Sammy and I grew up together. Seeming knows what that means. She helped out at. The store sometimes does what I'm saying. Like you were enclosed his boss. Yeah and I'm so shame to admit that I did something I never do. I tweeted my Internet provides food. I did this at four. Am this morning. Sam Gareth okay. Okay where did they fucking get off disconnecting people without warning right now? You actually tweeted those. Were keep reading and they tweeted me back even after my tweet got deleted is probably the s Bahn. Careful I would imagine was a link to how they're helping people during this difficult time. Oh my God. I clicked it to discover it was a deadly. They were like we're going to help. People were not go dear my Internet provider and my Internet provider and I were snarky each other over twitter for a couple of minutes until Cheryl is always share all that really interesting spells. It spelled it. Just just unleash up. Oh man someone who did some customer support? This is special real special. My husband is dead because that's how I lead in now. I'm Tony has data. She's true my husband is dead and I was trying to get in touch with you but you have hanging up on me. And now we're all going to die from this virus thing. He would have died anyway because he had like. Burkle fucking disconnect people like this because is copy and pasted knowledge and knowledge is power. But you don't care because you're just mad against St Patrick's that's me. That's why this happened is because I was driving at four old pot kettle black. The actual tweet here mad. You didn't get to do Saint Patrick's day like normal and the only person who has ever loved is dead Cheryl Cheryl. Does you see him coming. Cheryl you must understand where I'm coming from after splitting I'm sorry. Oh I'm very sorry to share all Arabs just the Messenger and if several minutes before I get her response on he continues name address in pimple. That's what you do real proud. I gave her the Info. My Internet came back on and we haven't spoken more talking right now. There isn't a lot that really sends me into a blind rage anymore except people claiming to be close to my husband who weren't the current political everything and dogs author leashes. That's it. Yeah reasonable human. I mean you're unreasonable. How fucking together? You are considering. I'll say thank you. I last just what you guys see the breakdown tax loss. Oh man takes a village to protect a widow ran on a shirt so at first. I couldn't figure out why I was just feeling so incredibly confrontational. Since yesterday. I was doing these things I never do like starting in on be blonde instagram and twitter. I'm used to and comfortable defending myself but I'm not really want to begin a confrontation unless I'm unquestionably in the right. Okay like your underselling this. You're the opposite of confrontation. I mean at least with us. You have confronted me once in. How long have we known each other over a decade? I don't know I mean like you. Yeah but just like confrontational in like okay. I'm just perfect. You don't need to confront okay. We'll see we'll say okay. Thank you you really don't think I'm not confrontational So I'm not I'm not really wanted to be in a confrontation unless unquestionably in the right. That rule did not apply yesterday and I started shit with anyone who gave me even the slightest excuse. Then it hit me. It was Saint Patrick's Day. I had fear I had Celtic punk. I had corned beef. I had Tommy Tiernan. You know I don't know references great pronunciation for not seeing that name though like ahead of time. I was an avid reader although when I learned how to actually pronounce velociraptor who I was but I did not have an opportunity to really experienced the Irish Americans answered Labor Day by winning a bar. Top dance off or more importantly getting into a drunken fistfight. There's traditions I mean I will say I do know one Irish person who is sick of the whole Saint Patrick's Day is all about getting drunk. Being you know so yeah. I mean like the way that a lot of the kids that I grew up with. Who did it myself included? It really is Labor Day for Irish American. People you get together you make food you watch soccer football and that's kind of all it is. Yeah and you just do kind of like Irish is yeah. I mean my mom's family's Irish. All we did was just do the corned beef and yeah potatoes and stuff. It's kind of a weird year to what actually upset me was the fact that George wasn't there for holiday. He liked more than I ever did. I fully embracing his Greek culture but he was super into the holiday. For some reason. You'd asked me to make the food every year and we'd watch gangs of New York and some other stand up comedians. This here not only is my Saint Patrick's Day loving husband gone. But we're practicing social distancing because of Cova nineteen. I couldn't really celebrate with anyone and the usual loneliness became overwhelming and instead of using some of the coping skills I had been learning in trauma therapy for years. I had two beers which is a lot of beers. When you're my size. I know this from experience. Oh yeah it does not take much to get me drunk drunk. Tommy you are you. Why are you thinking you had like three cocktails cocktails when murder today. Well they were doubles. And Hey so yeah. Two Beers a lot of lot of beer for Otani. So the moral of the story is to expect the unexpected. When it comes to grief and Saint Patrick's Day and beer is not an excuse for being an asshole common misconception. There are so many misconceptions we have to deal with US widows misconceptions about or to expect when your spouse dies in your twenties and it doesn't get easy but it gets easier if you have those coping mechanisms that I did not use a little over four months in and I'm just now resembling functional. Human being that's really scary to be nonfunctional for months I found myself very abruptly alone for the most part in a very expensive city. Holy Fuck. It's really expensive and San Diego while grieving and battling health effects that often come along with extreme grief. We don't tell about that Bart very much. My stomach was tore up from the floor. Up t-shirt stomach was tore up from floor. Tore up from the five just went up from the flora but people who had an ulcer. Aw you're older. Our old friend likes to visit a couple times a year and a bunch of other super sexy issues that made working almost impossible not to mention I was also still dissolving into the fetal position on the floor while whaling on the regular because the only person who loved me Wiscon- and despite all of this happening I couldn't ask for help. I did and still struggle when it comes to asking for help for me. Asking for help is associated with failure and shame. It took a couple of very dear friends. Mother Henning me as they said to finally make me realize that I had to reach out and nobody was going to be able to read my mind and know what I needed except for you know the luminosity reading your mind constantly. And they won't give it to me asshole. Tricky too much beard so not only. Do I have to agree? I have to do something that I'm incredibly uncomfortable doing in my very best days but then again being uncomfortable isn't really unfamiliar territory for me now at this point in my life. I can't stop laughing at it is you. I'm constantly uncomfortable mostly because everybody talks to me like this now. Fragile baby doe. Oh Hi how are you? I don't want you to say anything he needed in there or I'm okay I'm not fucking okay. My husband is dead. You say at least some time. Oh I just say whatever I want at this point because nothing matters more. My husband's dead. So people are like how are you doing and I say well? My husband's does not doing too high over you. GotTa you gotTa read the next meditation script. I basically wrote those exact words as you. I can't wait. I'm so sorry of course you aren't okay. I just want to remind you that I'm thinking about you. Being a widow before I slink off after not offering to comfort you or support you in any way. Boxing prayers and thoughts and prayers for Eyars and the Guillotine just registered set thinking about how thoughts and prayers and thoughts and prayers are that someone can t have this vision of thoughts and prayers like sentient little sentence and the Guillotine slicing throw sense? Yeah gatting fuck thoughts and prayers on assassinate other prayers. Okay on these brains all right not a lot of people treat you like a person when you're dealing with tragedy. My neighbors all know what happened because I was just a Tad loud. When the EMT told me my husband had died and everyone congregated in the courtyard to stare. I didn't notice if I was ever going to make a scene. I felt pretty confident now that this was the time to do it. Make your scene babe it was made. I'm proud of you and acquaintance. Saami at the grocery store recently and the look of sheer panic came over her face was. It's not like I'm Dracula or something all late at night the young comes down from the castle and in to the village to get her bread and potatoes. This long blast careful you'll catch dead husband virus and there is currently no cure for D. H. Feed it's almost as bad as over. Nineteen neither have cures. I win clearly. Doesn't know what to do so she just shoves her head directly. No Yeah we yeah I know her I know and she was like nope. Can't deal today. Headed bag just inside repairs to indicate to me that. She was so wrapped up in activity of finding her car keys. Then she couldn't post. We noticed me rookie trader. Joe I I had so much in my hands I was. I had the bags and the kids. And you know. My face was fully in my purse looking for my car keys. Yeah for sure. I knew she was doing this. Because I have used this maneuver frequently in my own life. Oh yeah great move. I let me use the word that you actually wrote him. I hate it utilize utilized. That's how real people talk. Tell this real person. I don't know why much above mass after utilize but I know the word I can use the word correctly. Yeah I mean it's just why. Why the extra characters you say us because it's a pretty word. It is pretty. I know she was doing this. Because I have utilized this maneuver frequently in my own life. Yeah you have introvert. Constantly for social anxiety will do that 'cause extroverted but you know. Sometimes it's gotta stick your heddon pairs so yeah that's the funny shit. You can't help but notice people just don't know what to do and it's not their fault but it doesn't make it any less funny. I. I don't know the right way to say this. But when our friend lost her parents and high school that was a learning experience for me and I think if people don't have something like that in their life then it's harder to react to different things. Not that I've been like perfect reacting to my friends grief but like I don't feel like stigma ahead and a purse. I completely recognize an on. Everybody knows what to do. Our they mess up or whatever no accents and like from my perspective with PTSD. I've been in that situation where I'm having episode and the other person's reaction gets to me almost no matter what it is if it's not exactly what I wanted and so I can empathize with like. Oh someone's having a sensitive moment like other person's response to it. It's to be huge in that moment. I didn't blame people for saying the wrong thing but I was surprised how often it was just the wrong way to respond right and I think like a lot of grieving people. It takes a lot to really set you off to like. There's there's shit that people say and I'm like I know you didn't mean that way like it's funny because as much as people see me like react for Lane I'm like you should see how many times a day a week a month islet some shit go like somebody called George. My Ex Fug. I knew they didn't mean it that way. That's still really affects me so I think that's the point I'm trying to make is it's like you could miss speak and that's fine but it's going to affect me and I'm probably using all of my self control like handle about situation with you when I don't have much to begin with because again my husband's dead and then you also I mean I'm assuming here but you don't want them to like explode with apologies that make it awkward either like just a quick correction would probably helpful off that stupid. I didn't mean to say x acknowledging it real quick I dunno without because people must speak I am constantly I misspoke Shell. I didn't mean to the air over people say things they regret. We'll talk a little a little. I didn't mean to say fucking lovely lovely service Internet and now a quick word from our sponsors hang. Is it's tawny here for audible. Dot Com as you know. 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It's just so hard to try to train people to use them when it's complicated and I'm fluid like everything about me super soggy and wet flue just changes and hate it at least not a psychopath. I definitely am so you know the pronouns that make me feel the least like unflinching when I hear them or are they then so but go easy on Johnny if she messes up because she's not me since wherever and pronouncement issue back then so you just need to start talking about me more now. I talked to babs about exams here. Here they're your best friend. Sam's Sam's your value is always like you are saying well you're Sammy. How are you holding up with a corona virus speeding? Really? We've already talked about it here and there. Well I'm finally not working day job and it's even affecting dog. He tried to offer himself the other day. He's like I'm done with this ship. Goodbye cruel world have been two days. Higgs. Come on in there. I have not been at the dog park over twenty four hours. I'm going to eat these eyedrops. That contain poisons goodbye. Goodbye I of it. And he's fine hangs has a pretty strong stomach from what I've seen so we didn't really eat jobs. Just shoot the lid off now so thanks. Don't know when we're GONNA be able to go to a store and replace those bad you know. I think it just didn't have emotions until yesterday because I was working ten hour days and I was still going out and seeing people and then it just sort of hit me that even if I might still be allowed to do that it's it's unclear if I am. I don't like feeling like compromising my morals by doing that. You know like my work is supposedly essential but sometimes it doesn't feel that way. It's an important historical moment. I WANNA feel I want to give it time to settle in emotionally. Not just stick my head in the sand and we're crazy. My heart was telling me I need to make something for people right now and when I when I do in my day jobs not. It's not helping people emotionally. It's not reaching out to people and sharing stories and so this was just demanding my attention and you know what working at my house is. Actually it's probably the safest place you can work. I've been doing this for a year. So I'm Kinda schilling actually feel more comfortable than I have in such a long time. Because everybody's like on my level right now I'm like oh. This is the new normal. That means I'm normal. Finally normal normal just takes a global pandemic. That's all it takes for me to really feel like at home and connected to people is global disaster. I need an economic collapse. People need to be afraid of losing their home about their loved one dying from a respiratory illness like this is all par for the course for me like business as usual. I feel bad for people that like had really charmed lives. They don't know what to do. They're freaking out. It's been like two days and they're like I'm in a I'M GONNA lose my mind and here I mean I'm just I can't think can't take it doing this for like two mart weeks. That's why I'm so glad I don't have kids having kids right now. Must be so stressful. I mean when he almost died because the drugs I just thought to myself how much worse would feel if he was a human child totally. I had the same thing with babs. Something is like bugging her. And it's probably her emotions or it's a disc thing. He's either anxious or hips are hurting. Because she's a terrier Chihuahua but Same thing I'm like. How much more worried would I be if this was my kid? That didn't want to eat breakfast right away in the morning. We're looking at me like mom please. At least your kids they'll can communicate to you like the dog. I'm guessing I'm like what are you one. She's like. I don't know I don't speak English. What hurts on so mine doesn't have a title other than Tony Script to. I wanted you to go in blind hints street. You know kings all here in my head is a nineteen twenty s radio announcer. It's the roaring twenty s again in nineteen is all the rage Daddy. Oh the bars are closed. The economy is collapsing. And there's a global pandemic right at your front door. I say indeed. What a time to be alive besides caring about the people being affected by the corona virus. I'm actually feeling pretty chill lately. My life hasn't changed at all. I worked from home from the last few years. I took care of my homebound husband for about nine months before he passed away. After George died I was grieving and then started working longer hours in order to try to pay my bills on a now single income. Oh my God that means life for about the past year has already consisted of walking my dog going to the grocery store working from home being with my husband and then grieving my husband. It's fascinating to see people talking openly about what I've been feeling for so long. I think that's why I'm feeling more comfortable than I have. In a long time. It took a fucking pandemic to make me feel seen. I feel so seen by everyone right now. I'm like Oh you get it. Are you all get it now? You all this so maladaptive AIDS. The way life is now the norm. Oh feels like it so now for the first time in my life. I'm normal George had always been really into political science and I can't help but be a little sad that he's missing out on a global pandemic of this magnitude. Oh my God. He would love this. He would just know everything about everything and just give us these beautiful. Ted Talks every day. Hefford with conspiracy theories honey and a real tragedy. I know he's not here to narrate it the global catastrophe. He would be getting off on this so hard right. No idea you fuckers. I'm going to die when I'm thirty five because George would be like. Oh now y'all my boat. Ticking confront immortality. I've been doing it since I was six. George was pretty dark dark kind of have to be. That's the thing is like when you live with trauma to anywhere on a tangent. Yes this is the kind of Shit that seminar glow ped- in January kids live for then again George had a respiratory disease that was similar to Lewis's if he hadn't passed away in November there is no doubt in my mind he would have caught the virus and it would have been fatal such a mind. Fuck so yeah. This pandemic thing is also weirdly. Validating and now see my life has been very similar to living in a pandemic. I've been doing this for a whole year. No wonder I'm a whole trip and a half talk a little off. I also feel kind of lucky in that way too in the same way that I thought I was lucky already been through so much trauma before George died. I've already been in trauma therapy for years. And I've already been doing the social distancing thing for quite a while I'm a trained professional ladies and gentlemen I got this and I'm a train wreck so if I got this. I know the rest of everyone else has got this. And we're GONNA be okay but we feel like train wrecks Tony Bass. A fender bender really is. This is a fender bender is gonna be alright then again. I'm also the bitch. Said I will call for him to the fifty five year old to the fifty five year old Karen who rammed her grocery cards and my two days ago because she needed to get fifty bags of peeps before absolutely nobody else spot them. This happened at Vons. Easter is cancelled Karen. So this Mitch had to roll up on with her card and shove it into my because I was too close to these peeps. She was nervous. Was going to take fifty bags of peeps. I can just go on a tangent about Easter. What's that show with a talking Unicorn that flies around it's happy it's called happy? The first season was about Christmas and I watched it around Christmas time by chance and this season two is about Easter. So I've been saving it and it just has the perfect tone for this global apocalypse that we're experiencing we'll just have a man who has a head injury and his talking to a magical imaginary friend and is extremely violent so we'll go ahead and link that little episode sampled to our guys. You'RE GONNA enjoy watching that if you like dark Tony continues. I do not feel bad about threatening to cough on the spiky-haired manager requesting to stop terror has and that's keeping my husband. Ben Realize because that is something he furniture what have done God. What NIVO ANY LOSE? How to cough to distance be saved? He did well. He was always walking around because he didn't have the silliest so he had like chronic bronchial Tasse. He didn't. He wasn't contagious. He has Celia didn't filter out mucus so he always sounded like he had bronchitis so people were always terrified. I don't talk that he might have survived just because of his coach. George feels like a ghost Djeddai kind of checking in here and they're whispering. Use The sock items on the few smart assery flowing through. I will baby corona virus. Or No you don't just bruise a woman over some nasty on marshmallows. I duNNo. Karen Coleman Georgia's so confident he. I said convict him but he was a her hands. Yeah it was something. I really admired about him. I have always wanted to have the same kind of self assuredness that he did and for some reason after he passed away. That's what I became more confident. I think it was because the worst thing that could have possibly have in. My life actually happened so now nothing is really that bad pandemic. Isn't that bad for me? Because what do I have to lose? Besides my patience. We're twitter fights near future okay. We learned that recently lost my patients with the neighbor. I have who resembles a sentient but when Babson I came around the corner entered the common area of our apartment complex this hillbilly had his dog off leash. This twenty. Five pound dog came racing towards my super pissing. Nine Pound Jim Henson. That's mine show. A terrier likes to start fights which I don't know where she learned that from and I don't need an outrageous bill. That's what I was thinking. Eyedrops right I was thinking the same thing with her just like we cannot afford. Says Bitch Behave yourself kidding going credit card debt for him? Anything wrong outrageous bill because you're too lazy to walk your dog so this dog comes charging my dog and I have to use her little leash harnessed Combo as babs. Yoyo right under the arm. Hundred prevent her from biting your chunk of this dogs news off. The sentient. Beer can drunkenly told me that his dog was friendly and I didn't have to worry okay as his dog. Marty continued to jump on me. Well a Yoyo growled bags and then told him that was fucking his friendly but mine. Wasn't I love when you say? Oh that's not a new phrase friendly minds. Not He continued to insist. His dog was friendly and I was stuck up bitch. Can you bitch stuck up bitch like I'm a widow? You didn't even know what you just did straight to hell. I actually did not use the widow card here. Like this is what's amazing. I'm going to use if you don't mind if we get to the point where they're enforcing our shelter order. I am caring for my widow friend now. This time. It wasn't the spirit of my mother who possessed me. It was the spirit of confident ass husband then call the beer can a slave expletives. I can't repeat here without losing sponsors. Ask the beer can very politely. What fucking unit he lived in he actually told me he told me he told. You told me I don't know why Angel me he may have been in shock it what had been spewing for my lady image or it may be because he actually was as dumb as he looked. I really couldn't tell you so the confidence of my husband. I started lashing asked him incredulously. Why would you tell me report but the type of specificity that would make anyone named Karen Proud? This report was ridiculous. Oh this is that ended at this the full story of my God Yup okay. Dear Property Management Group on this day in the year of our Lord say in Two Thousand Twenty betwixt the Times of two. Oh seven and two thirteen a seventeen year Chen resigning in unit two. Oh nine and his curly-haired canine monstrosity of black name of Marty or loitering on the west side of the apartment building on leash based because of these details. The apartment manager found the incident on the security camera and he calls me and goes. Yeah Tunein isn't even supposed to hold the talks cutting. Go Oh if you again. Let us know and we'll take a measure. That was not their dog. They were babysitting story. No it wasn't that bad were babysitting. And they were terrible babysitters I also saw them leading. This dog eat chicken bones and do nothing about it. I know this dog needed to go back home. Yeah there's a fine line between victim and vanilla lunatic and positive have crested. I haven't seen the dog or the Guy Stance and this is how my husband lives on. I carry his attitude. Sarcasm snark and confidence with me now. For example George used to text family member. His hot takes on political and social events texting that same family member. The kind of things shorter to be saying right now. Oh man be making jokes about culling. The herd throwing conspiracy theories about a moon colony built by Elon. Musk to save the wealthy. Yeah Oh it's funny because win we were in school and was waiting for this new. Exactly what story? You're going to tell we were having some sort of stupid debate in history class and I like to take the other side and I wonder what the story sounds like from Georgia's perspective basically. We're GONNA find out you're not knowing about his congenital heart defects. I said that I took this. Darwinism thing that really sounded a lot like eugenics. But I didn't know what he jenex where we shouldn't try to save people with conditions that could be passed on and weaken heard basically man. I was such an idiot and George then tries to use pathos and make me feel bad about what I just said and brought up his story since I was put on the spot and they didn't want to lose the argument. I basically argued that George should have died for our friendship started you know. Would you like to hear Georgia's version? Told me life exactly that and he did not disagree with what you said. He was trying to win the debate. He was like she's totally right. I believe that I wasn't going to lose that Shit. He totally agreed with you. But what is funny is that he used that argument of those. And his congenital heart disease related understand what he was saying. I was just like on the spot to be joking about conspiracy theories about a moon colony built by Elon. Musk same the wealthy. The really important people a moon colony he and the other billionaires spaceship for while leaving the rest of us here in some kind of Mad Max Thunderdome kind of reality. You'd be drawing comparisons to the movie. Wally and then half-jokingly accused me of turning him into a liberal social. I can't tell you how much you be getting out of those. But then again we'd be simply waiting for him to catch it and I was in the hospital every three weeks towards the end of his life. There's not a doubt in my mind that he wouldn't have survived. This help miss him. Being here to watch the last season of earth with me as we all walk hand in hand into oblivion so sweet. Isn't that just precious? I also think that's the most film and TV references. I've ever meet in a single paragraph which is something George would be proud of. I got boosted them though. Is You really do hand in Oblivion Note? I didn't think you would find out if you washed while even a monster. The sign off his great corona and out. Tawny I miss him. I miss him a lot. It is so hard to like. Be Living alone now. I was just starting to go out again and more regularly and Bam Corona virus. So I'm like I'm like really really alone. Yeah I'm glad I'm taking some time because I've just been head in the sand working so much but starting to catch hints that my friends who live alone are losing it a little bit and I need to think about how to give them a care package or something because it must be tough and it's not just about human touch for me. I can't live alone because I need someone to move my things for me to wonder what the fuck happen. Like reality just wouldn't be the same if I'm not like where's my. Shed moved my water bottle. Why is there a shampoo all over the shower wall? That's like something that happened to. George passed away as I'm just like there's WHO's GonNa pee on the floor and now it's GonNa leave the cabinet so someone to leave my cabinets open. Rose I feel human writings. Actually I'm the one who leaves the cabinets. I'm not cleaning up after anybody but myself. Now I don't know what to do well. Adhd SO I've been cleaning up after myself. Why is the butter on top of the microwave and fridge? Oh I'm not bad at being adult have. Adhd for more information visit tawny voice dot com. Follow the woody widow on instagram at Tawny Plata's underscore voice talent. Find me on twitter at Tony's voice. One of the best ways you can help support show is by sharing. Death is hilarious with your friends and on social media you can also support the show at Patriotair dot com slash witty widow. Where for just one dollars a month? You can help us. 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"The guardian as the country reflects on a grueling years since the first lock was announced by the prime minister calls for public inquiry. Grow louder. i'm just got deputy political editor of the guardian. And this is politics. Weekly when i asked you to go into lockdown exactly a year ago it seemed incredible that in the twenty first century. This was the only way to fight a new respiratory disease. On the evening of the twenty third of march twenty twenty millions in the uk sat in front of their tv's or switched on their radios to hear something. They never thought they'd hear from this evening. I'm scared the british people a very simple instruction you must stay at home. Carina virus was spreading through the country. Foster than i did and ministers had been woman. They didn't lock down then. The repercussions would be immense more than one hundred. Twenty six thousand deaths in the uk. Later and the argument continues. Even in the most unprecedented of circumstances. Could the government have done any better. According to many the best way to find out is by holding a public inquiry into how it was will handle those calling for it says it should start sooner rather than later. Boris johnson insists. That now is still not the right time but when is the right time to look at some potentially uncomfortable truths for the government and we look forward to a potential summer without restrictions and chances to see loved ones again. Many looking back at what was one of the most chaotic times in history to be in westminster and later on i catch up with just some of them as they contemplate. How things could have gone one year on. That's all in this week's politics weekly. But i this week as many of us post reflect we lend the boris johnson believes the uk successful vaccine. Rollout was thanks to greed and capitalism to talk about this and the growing calls for public inquiry. I joined by the guardians columnist raphael rospa. Before we get into anything after. Ask about this. Can you tell us. What do you remember you doing this time. Last year had indeed started twenty twenty on pretty difficult for anyway hadn't even and can you remember what it was like watching the prime minister. Gift that press conference will remember very clearly the equivalent day a year ago. Because actually i'd just been to a doctor's appointments. Because i had had a heart attack not that long before and it was recovering so i just remember asking my consultant cardiologists. You know. like how bad is this for me. You know well how. How afraid should i be as a cardiac patient of this. And i'll just read this'll shop intake of breath and the way we look at his eyes said well we don't really know but basically yeah put it this way you could do without set. I thought yeah. That's probably true for all of us in and then are more home that day And then we not done anyway. I thought well that takes the decision out of my hands. Always cut up pretty much to self lockdown. Now i have no choice and that is very much so personal lens through which i recall it. Probably you and i were both. I was on maternity leave at the time. And andy. you're recovering from your heart attack. And so i guess in a way. We're both watching it. Unfold as civilians rather than than journalists. And what was your sort of abiding memory of watching how the government dealt with this this pandemic in the early early weeks at the time. I just remember thinking well no one knows and what seems to be the biding theme of. It was just the sense that you had this prime minister who taken going into politics wanting to be a certain type of figure which was light effervescent person of joy You know that his great hero was winston churchill and today he also had this parallel fancy of himself as a great national leader. would love to have emulated the churchillian moment in nineteen forty and we find them on the beaches and all that sort of stuff and suddenly it's like he has that moment and he's loan on stage and alarm light falls on him and he gets to be that figure and he can't do it and that exposure of his kind of hollowness in shallow nursing of being unequal to the scale of the moment. That's the thing. The armor ready standing out politically as being a new audience as opposed to sort of in the wings or backstage a piece last week about why. We need a public inquiry into the government's handling of the pandemic and last july. The prime minister did promise. I think in response in a sort of off the cuff response to a davy in the house of commons places said we would have one in the future and he keeps saying that there will be a time to the lessons and it was reminds me of that great tourism about politics that that know now is is not the time and then when the time comes it's we want to move on which i'm sure is the way that they want to deal with this. Why do you think it's now. That is the time well at one level. You've just got to get started because these things really long. So i mean they take a while to set up and actually there's a lot of asian and a lot of facts you've got to stop arranging and picking chairs and the lots of those stuff starting who's actually going to run this thing but also adjust at the the piece that i wrote. The emphasis was more driven by concern. That will actually happen is a kind of waters of relief. will will wash over the whole experience again. Sort of channel a little bit by the political wilma part the government that we all move on on the feeling that wouldn't it be nice if we could. Just come away with this with this. Salient feeling that will happen. Was there was a terrible accident and nothing you can do anything about. It was of god but then the brilliant government came along with wonderful vaccine program and we will rule released and happy ending her around rolls around. Now let's move on. The mike slight concern is that will go with a a cultural grain of just wanting to forget it about it and just move on and actually that just autonomy huge lessons that we need to learn things. We need to understand literally there. Is this huge. As it were logical day site of very important information you need as a state to understand how we cope or don't cope in these great emergencies and if that just gets floods and we move on then we literally won't be able to learn lessons and you have to. You have to wall off the site now and preserve the dig so you get all the evidence. It's is such an incredible task as you think of how. How many corners of of it touches when it comes from the administration the nhs to test and trace to local councils and how they responded a minute just could be could be endless if the terms of reference on quite quite narrow. Yeah it's one of these things isn't it so that when you shine light on something it. Suddenly shows up things aspects consoles of the landscape. the can't see normal spectrum lies and the pandemic has shown that kind of light on literally every aspect of Society so if we're not careful it turns into an inquiry into the states of uk society economy culture and recent history. Starting from a moment in early twenty twenty an is a very difficult thing to do this sort of best best guests that many many experts and looking at previous inquiries such an inquiry might last three or four years. If you're a betting man. Robert workman d. Say we'll get we'll get one. I think if they end up calling one the compromise will be and it won't be made explicit but the compromise will be on. You can have a great big inquiry. But let's make sure it delivers his verdict after the next general election so that when whenever it is somehow it'll bleed across the line of whenever an election is you has the latest twenty twenty four. I think it will probably be twenty twenty three so at some point after that. Moving away from the feature. Let's let's look at the president and we had some some revealing comments. I think from from the prime minister to the nineteen twenty committee of bench stories last night. Ones that he told them to immediately forget which they didn't. They lied to the national. Press where he said that the uk been able to vaccinate twenty eight million people because of greed and capitalism. My friends. why do you think he told them. Peace to immediately. Forget that i said that he he he but it's revealing isn't it. It is revealing. i mean these tricky in a way because parts of me response to this king i really don't want get sucked into another round the psychoanalyzing the prime minister what he meant it. Wouldn't it be nice if you just had a prime minister. Who could articulate things. Clearly what he means you know. It's always a performance. Waste having to pick away at a mosque or disentangle. What's serious what's done with us of ironic knowing wing. That in itself is such an irradiating. Frankly feet show of the leadership. We've currently golf. So i hate the fact that we have seen play this game. But that said i'm gonna play anyway because my sense is wed is comes is actually a world view from his generation which actually sees everything in terms of quite a classic left right. He's just thatcher's baby really in some respects politician and so what he means by greed and capitalism did this. It's just as good or full mony lefties who don't like pharmaceutical companies. Don't like the idea of enterprise in boca nearing capitalism in was also. It's part in a way. It's almost two tying it back to his idea of what a thrusting dynamic brexit britain should be all about which is. Just get up and go. We're going to achieve things. And so he wants to vaccine program to be seen in his head. It will be seen as very much as an expression of that. i mean. of course the you can be very much argue that this is the opposite colony. Because if it's a it's a program that succeeded through through existing the distribution has been through existing state structures and through the nhs funded by the state at and instantly after that it can faxing developed a public institution. I mean it's you could almost make the exactly opposite argument. Oh absolutely and i think probably if you asked him to articulate exactly what he believes in some of the relationship between the private sector in the state and developing an innovating vaccines he would answer it much more in the sense that you just did the the these things are complicated and they worked together. But what you get with. Boris johnson is these moments where he cannot keep a lid on his. Aides is no great Going into today and tomorrow which is going to be important as for for vaccine diplomacy as i guess we can call it an with. Eu is is to have this this this summit crunch video summit. I think we've been calling it as well. They may decide to to to slap an export ban on on some of the astrazeneca vaccines to the k. That being developed in this plot in the netherlands boss johnson said yesterday that the uk wouldn't retaliate but clearly. It's not a very good situation to be in. How dangerous is this as a precedent. Even if you know we don't know how exactly it would affect the rollout of the vaccine program. I think it's very dangerous as a precedent in terms of the future relationship between the u. k. and the e. u. are in practice might sense from hair and the speaking to people in brussels. And some of the noises you get from downing street is there is now moved to take the heat out this a bit on. What will be agreed in. Brussels will be a framework that allows them to do something but they weren't activated immediately. And i think a lot of the year e you leaders are sorta trying to rain the commission in a bit on this stuff. Say actually you know what. That's not. have this warm out about with generally be a stupid things to do in relative size terms. The uk has to try to carefully on this ultimately. You do have the situation that has been the case throughout breaks negotiations that when it comes down to it a block of twenty seven countries the size of a whole continent cancun shots over one lone country that used to be a member. And that's just going to be. A problem is problem with vaccines. It's going to be a problem with absolutely everything. Every time you have one of these issues the other issue going on with europe which i suspect more of the general public will have their eye on this week is is the is the concept of of summer holidays which look more and more unlikely tae given that we're heading for this thursday that jess i feel like i resigned myself to this months ago. Although it's you hear all the stuff that you a oh let's all enjoy the british seaside. It's the purchase incredibly expensive for all of this stuff is it's not. It's not an easy choice not to spend your money. You know spending a thousand pounds up the thousand pound cottage at the english seaside but the government would clearly prefer that we do that. We're also facing the possibility of them. Having to put european countries in the hotel quarantine system because of the sped at the south african vary in something will push which will be extremely difficult for the government to tap to make that choice. And you see more countries going on on this red list before before starts easing off. I see that pretty much through the lens of a change in the whole governing ethos regarding risk between law some and this summer and the big change there was the response was the kent variant basically getting it rolling over christmas allowing not easing. That had terrible consequences. I think and they wasted months and months trying to have their cake and they did. I think genuine need then changed their mind understand over christmas in january. And that's why we're still based getting lockdown. The west why the easing of the current restrictions is going pretty slowly. I think boris johnson has actually fundamentally revised his risk threshold. A ring on the side of caution is the ethos right now and so sadly i think yes that does mean. Some holidays are receding from view of laser broad. Slide receding from view. So we we meet we go onto the next week and we look forward to the next step of the roadmap Finally to be able to to meet the mothers more than in the park So rough thanks ever so much for joining me as always it's a pleasure. Thank you after the break. We turn back the clock to when the country start to lockdown. We'll be right back. Welcome back to politics weekly. I'm just gal got now. this time. Last year i was still a maternity leave and on top of trying to juggle the needs of my tiny son. I was still reeling like many of you. I'm sure from the prime minister's announcement that for the foreseeable future. We need to just stay home. My little boy wouldn't cease grandparents for a while. And i couldn't meet for coffee or walk but i was also getting ready to head back to work in the summer and i had no idea what westminster would look like when i go back. The many the last twelve months have been blur but march in particular was whirlwind month. My colleagues in the lobby and politicians in their advisors so i gathered up to some of the voices of those who are left scrambling to adapt as the four nations. Started looking down and what better place to start off very own. Heather stewart as you can imagine as political editor of the guardian jet. How much time to stop and think about the potential danger of all that is until health minister tweets that she has tested positive. I think when nadine doors got it was one of the moments where we realized that it was around and about in westminster. And you know what it's like working there. It's not open spaces and lovely ventilation and open windows. It's little kind of dark corners and it was probably a bit of a petrie dish to be honest but also you were there. Was this sense of witnessing sort of extraordinary time so it was hard because it felt as though somehow in your life in your working life you were sort of living the crisis that was developing across the country. And you could at close hand you could see the thinking developing and you could also see this sort of fear mounting really among those in government who were having to make these very very big decisions that i really vividly remember sitting in the press conference which boris johnson announced that he was closing all the pubs. And that was just an extraordinary moment. New prime minister wants to enact measures. Like this i know the damage that this disruption is doing and will do to people's lives too. He wouldn't have realized or expected that ever to be something that he was going to have to do in his professional life prime minister and and even days before let alone weeks before that was absolutely not something he imagined himself doing so it was a pretty extraordinary moment is not that often. You sit in a press conference and we tend to know what to expect they went. There are often sort of jaw dropping moments but but that was definitely one of them that i will remember for a long time i think. What was it like when you after went home. You've got you've got kids. Who are at home trying to adapt that new way of working what was to have been just punishing working environment. Yeah it was terrible. I was i was just having a look back actually at the suit. What's up messages. That are calling greener. And i was sort of firing back at each other in those early days and of course a lot of my goodness. What's the government going to do next. How serious is this quite. A lot of it is also about how on earth we can manage without juggling children and to do that ball also in your day job while also we'd like we all were being completely discombobulated by what was going on and how quickly events have overtaken us really was. It was just an extraordinary period. And you actually got covid. During that time as well to to compound all of it. Yeah i did. I was just looking back to to remember exactly when it wasn't so so. The lockdown proper was called on the twenty-third wasn't it. So i was. I was at the final downing street. Press conference which was the friday before the twenty-eight and i came down with covert simpson's on the twenty ninth so so Less than a week. After after the lockdown announcement an and like lots of people at that time there were no test so you sort of got on with it really and took off to bed when went to work probably too soon then took back off to bed again and hasn't really left since to be honest what it did for awhile over the summer and there was a period of no symptoms. But i'm still coming up to a year later a not quite over it so it's Yeah it was very period to be sort of writing about what was going on kind of leaving it but also expect experiencing symptoms and it was. It was at a similar time to the period where boris johnson matt. Hancock and chris witty were all coming down with it so it was. I don't know whether i caught two in westminster. But i strongly suspect i did. How do you view the few weeks now did you. Did you ever think that point that we would still be in a lockdown. All that we would have a successful vaccine rollout. I don't think for a moment. I thought it would go on for this long. I'm i'm. I'm sure that i think there was already talk of. Winter would be difficult but but certainly didn't think that a year on we would still be under restrictions. My kids have only just gone back to school. It's it's really been such strange period and you're right on a vaccine to the time. I think people were saying well if vaccine takes two years at least so let's let's not be putting our hopes let's not put our eggs in that basket was the general feeling about it. We've got to manage it through lockdowns and other kinds of measures so you of have to stop and think about how extraordinary this mass roll out has been ready. This so inoculation of the whole population really really short. Time is quite extraordinary. Is near and no absolutely wouldn't have dreamed that what we were kind of hunkering down four was a sort of year long kind of kind of see you just. It's really very auden. Funnily enough there's a. I was just as i say looking back at my messages from last year. Incredibly naively some very early point sent a message to say well you know. I think there's a probably appointed which this becomes more of a health story than politics story. A whereas of course is absolutely dominated kind of politics as most visceral isn't it is literally life or death decisions that they're having to make and in downing street and his absolute dominant dominated so life and all of our lives ever since isn't it one of the people meaning to make those life and death. Decisions was the health secretary. Matt hancock his former special adviser jamie. Jackie goodwin started the giddy with hope after a rollicking win for the conservatives in the one thousand nine hundred general election in the run-up to january. We'd had not just months after years of uncertainty frustrations very blocks Ever since two thousand sixteen new todd gums fooling claps in leadership elections parliamentary losses of majorities then general election campaign and sent. You went into the new year. Was we've had five years of madness bachelor. This is gonna be a column here no malady and hopefully we can have some stability in twenty twenty bam of nowhere pandemic hits you an. If for lots of people journeys quieter excited. There was lots going on that month and it was a month commonly nuts at lea- leave new pin union weeks just after election. Joyti lots of equal sat there. Think invite what are we be doing next. Five years in it. Off health stephanie. A lot of uncertainty and lots of traditional about what might be to come. Can you describe how it felt when the first case arrived in the uk territory. Extent because you you historic. You lied about pandemics evan. Evan grows up hearing about the nineteen eighteen flu pandemic here when it killing millions of people We'd spent the last few weeks. Trench establish just how deadly this pandemic was decidedly. This virus would be men. I'm sitting meetings been told the latest date is in china was indicating that this could be anything between the fatality rate zero point five percent to four percent. It was a scary time for lots of people. Obviously you're monitoring the response of lots of other countries around the world one point. Do you think you realized in the run up to to the lockdown actually being imposed that it was inevitable that you could try and slow it but it would be inevitable that we would have to have that kind of lockdown. Also people now seem to phrase the decision to lockdowns sort of lockdown and save lives. The down elise lives. It was never framed that by the time it was never that outside of the option people were given at the time. The decision people being al-sumait was do what other countries are doing and lockdown. Or do we can now try and to try and see if you can ensure your health service of health says capacities is not overwhelmed throughout the course of this pandemic has been quite striking. It's every month. A different country is being the model to follow. And i'm sure now. Countries e. k. And say oh k was fake some vaccines. We are facing on testing So it's difficult. It's not so different. Countries have had ups and downs the pandemic and trying to work out. Divide cool is when you're trying to balance scientific advice with what other countries are doing. Who say what will the evidence that they was telling you. When often those three things conflict with each other is an incredibly difficult thing. For policymakers and politicians we haven't balanced and take difficult judgments on. How did people personally deal with the stress of those weeks. Lots of people second creating the prime minister but how how did it sort of take. Its toll presumably. There were some fled tempers but probably a bit of comradeship as well legal. Talk the telling people what's going on and make all supported each other. It was a real cross government issue And so ensuring the everyone was inconsequential -cation number. Ten new was going on what you doing. You knew what the stiff ten was. you knew other different departments needed to be supporting. You was exceptionally important in those in those times and actually people pulled together incredibly. Well i thought. Outside of the westminster bubble local councils and city mayors busy trying to prepare their constituencies as the math for the sheffield city region and the labor. Mpp bouncy central. Don jarvis knows all too well. The pandemic was starting to impact personally. Sounds like a really trivial selfish point to make. But for years i've been joined together a book which was going to publish in march and we put a little preparation into a boat lords. That was taking place in march and we will wondering what this book launch would be able to go ahead because of the emerging threat of covert. But i also remember having some really deeply worrying early conversations with people in the nhs about the impact that this might have on staffing levels are member talking to senior people in the police about concerns about whether they would be able to No police officers on the street and maybe assault product to my overactive mind. All the experiences have before politics but quite early on. I was genuinely worried about what this might mean for us. And what might be required to do to local level in south yorkshire. How elian were were officials telling you that. The government needed to be acting was a longtime before. There was this national lockdown early on. I mean there's sometimes a bit of confusion about what responsibilities may have right from the at all of them as much on a cross-party basis decided that we wanted to re closely with the government. We we had an important role to play and initially we had quite constructive conversations with senior people in government about what we might do to support activity buff over the course of the pandemic and particularly the last number of months. I think there's a sense to all all contributors Especially appreciated Bought by central government. And that's been a source of some great frustration to us where you at that moment when the first lock down with announced that that stay at home moment human the way you were and how highveld i do. I was a new. I'd come away from parliament. i remember very clearly. Standing on the station at saint pancras waiting to get on a train to sheffield on stood waiting for this train and for the first time ever. I honestly didn't know when i would be coming back down to look at. It felt quite sobering moment. I remember watching the prime minister and getting a sense from him of the scale of the challenge that we face as a country. What do you think the legacy of this pandemic will be for for the and particularly in northern england which the tories talk about All the time as a in their leveling up agenda but that that is an agenda. That's going to be made a lot harder. By the economic scars at the pandemic will the legacies that be shake and this has been the most dreadful experience for so many people. The north has been is being leveled down by the economic impact of covert and if the government series about eleven Genda the need to it with madison with local authority leaders. And make sure that we've got the resources in place to invest in our communities so that we can recover rebuild so we'll i hope amongst many other things. The legacy of this pandemic will be is a greatest sense or the need to invest in more deprived communities and actually make sure that people able to lead healthier and happier lives and whilst that would always be benefit to them as individuals families and communities. Actually there's a wide benefit for the whole country from doing that. And i will not miss out on the opportunity. Mp's often star hours political advisors working for parties but some of them come with different life experiences and some even hang onto that other vacations. Rosanna ancon is one of them. The labor mp tooting is an any doctor who's been able to do something that most of our colleagues haven't witnessed the impact of the pandemic from the frontlines so it was really interesting to to be in the nhl at the time that just over a course of weeks became gradually more and more on certain we were hearing about this virus. We were told it wasn't anything to worry about. But before we knew it it had sorta descended upon us in the uk. And i think as a front line worker there were some real concerns and questions about what that would mean and then it feels as though almost overnight. Our whole world's changed and we were concerned about p. staff wearing aprons protective gowns. People concerned that they were going to be taking this virus home to their families in a finishing shift and arriving back home and instead of hugging little kids who would run to the door. I'm screaming everyone to stand back. Stand back please. Well mommy gets changed and has a shallow before anyone can touch her. And these the most atypical of times. And i've been doctor now for fifteen years and i'd never seen anything like what we experienced. When when the whole cova crisis started to hit to be honest you went. Just just doing any gesture to you. You're actually running to be labor. Step t leader at the time and you chose to suspend your campaign. Tell tell us a little bit about that. Wurley suspend physical campaigning. Yes well. I was having the most incredible time star of last year. I've thrown my hat in the ring. I was enjoying speaking to members of traveling having of a fantastic time campaigning for for a new future for our party on the back of ordinary difficult election. But it started to become very clear that people were losing their lives and for me. I have always maintained that i'm an ordinary person living a very extraordinary life at the moment in the role that i have in as an mp but through and through at my heart at my call dr. That's the job i used to have. That's how i defy myself. And when i could see that our communities where really really struggling. It felt remiss of me to continue campaigning. Fa my deputy leadership campaign. When i felt my time would be better served going and doing more shifts than i ever had on the front line. You must have felt previously new career but a bit torn between politics and medicine and did this kind of exacerbate. The way that you've you've felt about your decision to go into politics versus staying mohali in medicine because it sounds like from what. You're saying that that you felt like you needed to leave. The political campaigning behind for a while and really focus on making thought could make the most difference at that particular moment which was treating patients. I've never felt attention actually between my medical role and my political role. Because i think really go hand in hand. I mean. i'm really really grateful. That the i'm anne specialist. That's my specialty. And when you were in the waiting room is like a microcosm of wider society so i actually use what i see at work who i meet at work to inform my politics and i think it goes really well hand in hand. I spent years wanting to be a doctor and being told i couldn't. I felt my a levels. Because things are ready tougher home and i only went to medical school at twenty four and so i worked so hard to have this role and i'm so honored to be a doctor that for me just felt this. I just had this feeling that just wanted to go to the hospital. That's why i wanted to do. And that's where my body was going to take me as it were. Remember what it was like it. Westminster the week. The first lock down was announced as one thing. But when i asked jamie dan missouri if there were any moments from this first year of the pandemic the will stick with them. Forever is not necessarily the lockdown announcements that. Come to mind the dan jarvis. It's when covid nineteen truly hit home. Why haven't spoken about this previously. But the truth of the matter is that the moment that will stay with me is the moment that i found out. My grandmother died in a care home. We haven't been able to go and visit a because of the restrictions placed on on the care home and therefore as a family we never had the opportunity to say goodbye to her and that is heart. Wrenching for us is an experience that so many people shed around the country so i think we will have all members. This has been the most dreadfully difficult time for us to get through on a hope that we can find it within ourselves to meet the challenge of the moment and also be doing. Why can to make sure that we did. The jamie new jackie goodwin. It was feeling the way to the nation safety on his shoulders and not really knowing what the answers were the day of case one off can go cool. What about half past midnight when that first case came in and then we'll kids work in louise people walking around not knowing and thinking case one here and now you have thousand thousands of thousands of cases a day with people sometimes the first case and the first tragic death but from the stall the sense. Was that a vaccine is the way out. And you're saying what we do to get a vaccine to and the answer is not behavioral year at the very least and thinking. How do we get through the next year before you could actually. And i'll see part of that is saying right what we do now to ensure that a vaccine students possible when when it does eight revolt as effectively and seem as the accessories as possible but also the question of before it gets a who would be doing to protect lives protect dna chess and ensure you have as good of a sponsorship positively candy so it does not serve. There's lots of moments eating betsy as big moments payments offer. You realize quite how seminal important. They weren't Back net and see the the we've come through and for resented allen con- it had nothing to do with politics in the end i remember facilitating zoom calls between family members and their loved ones who were ventilated in the intensive care so that they could hit a voice and i took this ipad to this lady who was very very young. She was under thirty and she had delivered a baby while unconscious in the intensive care and her family came on the call. There were three children under six. And i stood there to them and then they spoke to their mom and they shouted mummy mummy. Wake up. you've been gone too long. we miss you. We love you. And i told them that mommy could feel their love and she could hit love and that they're call really made a difference to her but i was crying onto my pcp what that felt like. I'm the drive. It gave me to take these patients messages forward because we have to learn from this pandemic and we have to do better with do better. We have had over one hundred and twenty five thousand people die. We have lost loved. Ones people are grieving. And so many of these lives lost. I truly believe could have been avoided and we have to do better. We simply have to do better. A huge thanks to resent adding con dan jarvis jamie jackie goodwin and of course our very own header stewart for talking to me for that report and actually wrote a very long read a couple of weeks ago about what it was like to be in westminster as covid started spreading. Through old hollowed corridors. There will be a link to in today's episode description on the guardian website. But that's all from us this week for anyone wanting to stick with the lockdown anniversary theme in cheese episode of our system for cost science weekly in samples spoke to various scientific experts about kobe treatments. Vaccines and what. The next twelve months might hold just search for science weekly wherever you get your cost. But for now. 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But the I recreational dispensaries have opened. And yes. there is one within distance to me. Boston's walking and whatever. But i'm not gonna lie. I didn't even realize it was the first day that it had happened. And just by luck and fluke in all kinds of stuff. I just kind of happened to be there for the first day. The opening of the sale of legal recreational marijuana in arizona. And i actually experienced something that i never thought that i would in my lifetime so i feel like i was part of history in a weird way. You know only because for me because of bipolar and stuff like marijuana is just such a viable secondary choice to so much of this stuff that we go through an. I'm admitted i've been sleeping except for last night. But that's my own deal and we'll talk about that later. But i sleep better on weed than i do on a syrah quail tries it on which generally will make me vomit. Halfway through the night. I'll have to wake up and cyril makes me. 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Always be my homeboys I know i'm forgetting something in I don't know right now. i know. I'm forgetting something but back to it later. So see what. I'm talking about overwhelmed. I can't even remember what it is. i'm talking about. My head is like thinking about eight hundred thousand things. I'm still trying to figure out where the super fitness truckers. I'm looking to see if it's trying to connect it has his green flashing on normally that is like neon to the sky and not try again. I will problems hope. Everybody's doin' hope. The situation where we were living at is starting to come to a you know slow roar at this point. I know there's new strains and all that they're talking about and the vaccine i'm not gonna get into. My choices are not. Because i was not with the show is about however i will talk about the fear of both Soon as almost a year to my first kovic show unbelievably that. We've been living with it for a year believably. Oh i was in the paper. Hey okay that could be what it was so yeah w. wm. I dot com wait mountain independent. It's online. I have a hard copy of it too. But that doesn't do any good. I could read the article to you. How boring is i look forward online and get a nice pitcher peanut which i'm really happy about almost more happy about the picture. Then the article but the article is good too. So yeah this is a paper news was something else that was in the paper about the talking about but either way. So that's another thing rates to make kind of a little bit. Yeah okay see how. I do that you guys do that. Like something super important and then you like block it lake protection mode or what like. Oh my god like my bringing. Now i remember all things in my brain is like so. That's why my brain is blocking stuff. I don't blow up anyway. Comes kitty cat. he's gonna like stretch me and I am so Call it for right now. Because i'm distracted as all get out and go take a shower and try to make some sense of staying. Get some work done. So i can like stop hyper focusing on what can go wrong and just like creating what is going right. I guess that's the way to fix that. All right so it's thirty. Am on a sunday morning. This is a rarity so rarity you know one time deleo things years anyway everybody. I hope you're doing well. Thank you so much. I appreciate each of you. So this is don. This is my podcast since we'll bipolar. And let's all still alive. Okay later this historic sharon of dancing with bipolar as we all know covid. Nineteen better known as corona virus has spread throughout the world. There are a few ways to help lower the spread of this respiratory disease however. Wash your hands. Avoid touching your face including your mouth nose and eyes cover your coughs and sneezes monitor your symptoms in consult with your doctor. Stay home and away from other people except for medical care. Clean and disinfect high touch surfaces for more information please visit cdc dot gov slash covid nineteen. That's cdc dot gov slash c. o. v. i d. nineteen thank you.
Trailer: Environmental Racism
"Hey everyone it's jillian in the last two seasons of the show more and i covered the cove nineteen pandemic and the current uprising for lives which continue to shape society today the pandemic and the uprising also raised two major questions which will be addressing in our new season on environmental racism. How do we achieve a healthy life. And what kind of world do we want to leave for the next generation. These are profound questions for region that boasts some of the most prestigious hospitals in the nation and his home to residents. With some of the worst health outcomes. Saint louis is consistently listed as one of the worst asthma capitals in the country by the asthma and allergy foundation of america. In during the height of flint's water crisis there were higher rates of lead poisoning among black children in saint louis than for children in flint michigan according to nicole hudson former forward the ferguson lead catalyst so in this season we'll trace the connection between systemic racism housing conditions and health outcomes but will also highlight the organizers tenants rights advocates and urban farmers. Who are working to improve conditions in their communities. So if the air is bad the is bad. It doesn't matter what your socioeconomic status does matter where you came from you not let and so she have cleaner clean walk. Everyone should be able to go somewhere somewhere. That set assigned beautiful be able to enjoy nature q. Nature to be recharged by nature. Can you imagine someone like me being a teenage mom waking up in the midst of a beautiful garden with roses and lavender tomatoes. Swiss chard in. They do not have to worry about how to feed their child in. They don't have to worry about being disconnected from their children. And they don't have to worry about if they read too much if they'll get lung cancer or respiratory disease you out specifically and purposely defined areas would you disinvest areas when you commit food apartheid when you take things that people need just basic needs like fresh vegetables and fresh fruits out of areas and make it difficult for certain people based on their color and race to obtain those rights that we think are just basic human rights. That it environmental racism. The first episode of the environmental racism season drops on friday february twelfth from saint louis public radio and pr. This is we live here. Hey everyone it's jillian. Thank you for listening to. We live here. Your support is more crucial now than ever so. Please consider making a contribution to saint louis public radio at we live here dot show and we'll keep putting an equity lens on stories from saint louis. Ambience support comes from the st louis community foundation working for an equitable saint louis with its support of saint louis graduates and invest st l. a. community redevelopment initiative learn more about saint louis community foundation at st l. gives dot org support comes from the missouri foundation for health with the mission of improving the health and wellbeing of individuals and communities facing challenging needs. Learn more about missouri foundation for health at m. f. f. h. Dot org hey everyone it's jalen help us. Keep the show going by leaving a review wherever you get your podcasts. And let's keep in touch on social media via facebook twitter and instagram at we live here. Stl thanks support for this. Podcast comes from the corporation for public broadcasting.
The U.S. Death Rate Rose Significantly During the COVID-19 Pandemic
"Brought to you by hotseat. A new memoir from jeff immelt the former. Ceo of general electric. Raw honest intimate. Hotseat is that. And more as emily recounts what. It's like to be a leader in times of crisis by your copy of hot seat. Today wherever books are sold the us death rate rose significantly during the covid nineteen pandemic by jamie ducharme covid nineteen was the third most common cause of death in the us and twenty twenty contributing to more than three hundred seventy five thousand deaths and a sixteen percent increase in the national death rate according to provisional data published today by the us centers for disease control and prevention all told more than three point. Three million people in the us died. Twenty twenty for a rate of about eight hundred twenty nine deaths per one hundred thousand people. That's up from about seven hundred. Fifteen deaths per one hundred thousand people in twenty nineteen the covid nineteen pandemic is a clear culprit the weeks ending april eleventh and december twenty. Sixth were the deadliest for the us. Last year coinciding with two major cova nineteen surges. The virus was listed as an underlying or contributing cause of death for more than three hundred. Seventy seven thousand people in the us and twenty twenty which is likely an underestimate if anything since testing was come by in the spring of twenty twenty only heart disease and cancer killed more americans in twenty twenty. Meanwhile suicide was pushed out of the top ten causes of death. Unintentional injury stroke lower respiratory disease alzheimer's diabetes influenza pneumonia and kidney disease round out the list logically enough. Death rates were highest among adults eighty-five older and lowest among kids ages. Five to fourteen while that was true across causes of death. Cova nineteen certainly contributed to that. Gap the cdc estimates that covid nineteen. Death rates are seventy nine hundred times higher among adults older than eighty-five than they are among kids ages. Five to seventeen death rates were also higher among men than women again consistent with cove nineteen trans death. Rates varied widely across racial and ethnic groups to overall death rates were highest among black and american indian slash alaska native people while covid nineteen death rates were highest among american indians slash alaska native and hispanic people though these figures are provisional and may change somewhat as the cdc's data are finalized. They paint a stark picture. Last year marks the first since twenty. Seventeen that the national death rate rose. It's too soon to say whether the trend will continue in twenty twenty one but cova nineteen remains a major cause of death both in the us and globally more than five hundred fifty thousand corona virus related deaths have been reported in the us since the pandemic began and the virus continues to kill hundreds of people in the us each day.
COVID-19 and Alcoholism | What Effects Does The Pandemic Have on Drinking?
"Hello everyone and welcome back to another awesome episode with acupunctures my life now today. I want to get into alcoholism this this. This has become something really serious pertaining to this pandemic. i mean it's really gotten out of control and it's had such a negative impact on house holes to steeds tons of cases of domestic violence suicide so forth and so on see alcohol. Drinking has a long history as a popular habit. In which some people become addicted leading tha alcohol poisoning and a lot of times. This is result of improvement of life and with the improvement of life is usually an increasing tendency alcohol drinking which should be seriously taken into account but now he doing something different and i wouldn't call it the improvement of life and that's this pandemic deal with colbert. Nineteen that's also increased alcohol consumption. And as i just stayed alcohol addiction in which many people who previously didn't even social drink. I mean they may have had a glass of sam champagne on new year's eve. You know maybe a sip of wine on the birthday or a holiday that they deem really special. Tim have become addicted to alcohol. As a result of this pandemic in you see alcohol addiction alcohol poisoning tends to give rise to many social problems such as traffic accidents crimes suicides and again like i said domestic violent alcohol. Alcoholism sorry has broken up many families many. And that's that's that's cause for concern. It really really is cause for concern. I mean this is something as a society global society we have to think long and hard about because in most cases you know once we become addicted to alcohol becomes very hard to stop you know becomes a crutch for the many stresses we face in life that previously didn't need alcohol to deal with and we'd like to safely blame the pandemic four it but now as global society we have to figure out we've come together and figure out a way to get past it to get over to resume previous lifestyle where we'd consume alcohol loose much you see. This pandemic is affecting every family across the country and it's more than likely going to have a long lasting impact on public health and wellbeing far after this pandemic you see. The misuse of alcohol is already public health concern in the united states. I don't have the particulars with regard to individual countries and even continents but it. It's it's a problem but definitely in the united states with dramatic increases in emergency department visits an alcohol related deaths which have been observed over recent years. I mean alcohol has the potential to further complicate this pandemic in so many ways the virus is still relatively novel and this pandemic. I mean we've for the most part i i mean i don't know if people are How many is still alive from the flu outbreak early. Nineteen hundreds but i can safely say for the most part. I mean this. This is this is a new phenomenon. This is something that's just new to this to us. Globally light you know. Global pandemic lockdown orders stay at home restrictions or movement restrictions on. You know how you communicate verbally is well as physically and humans with social creatures and we heavily rely on communicating. Touching is so much part of us in who we are as human you know but the the the pitfalls that come with drinking alcohol consuming alcohol and alcohol being highly addicted we have to consider the effects of alcohol on our immune systems. You when you abuse alcohol it activates. The immune system causes inflammation in interferes with the body's ability or the body's immune response to viral and bacterial infections ness. I that's not good at all like let's take let's look at the lungs for instance since covert nineteen is is is a respiratory disease. You see in the lungs when you drink a lot of our hall. Alcohol damages the epithelial cells that line the lung surface. Which associate with acute respiratory distress syndrome. You see an impaired. Immune system function and an increased susceptibility to respiratory illness contributes to the severity of a covert nineteen infection with greater risk of mortality in not show excessive rather abusing alcohol. Not only influences susceptibility to nineteen but overall severity. but the broad effects of this pandemic also likely lee to an increase in in in rehabilitation overall. Because you know compared to previous disasters. Let's say we dealt with hurricane katrina we've dealt with nine eleven here in the united states and again alcohol consumption went up but we're looking at astronomical numbers in this country right now and around the world shifted think situations such as what we face now the stress anxiety exacerbates symptoms of alcohol use disorder. You know we also know that as a social creatures feeling socially isolated. The mental effects of physical distancing worsens worship symptoms of anxiety and depression. And that you know for the most part. Encourages increased use of drinking of alcohol. Now one thing sure. Statistics do show around the world at this Increases in retail alcohol sales. And i'll get into that in a minute. you know. i'll break it down. These increase numbers relative to race gender age and so forth and and to go along with this. We also have to Consider stress from unemployment as well along with has said 'isolation physical distancing as a representative factor. You know what's influencing excessive alcohol consumption you know we. We're in a time of such uncertainty. You know this nation never seen before you talk about the great depression. Hold the flu. Pandemic from early nineteen hundred but comparatively. When you look at those numbers. I think in early nineteen hundreds the us. The united states had roughly around ninety. Something million people. Will i push three hundred fifty million people in this country but we've become a global society to this point so now you you. You really have to look beyond your borders as a nation whether you're in japan whether you're in india africa china any country on the continent of europe. You have to look beyond and factor in a global society global community. You know everything not i. Don't wanna be absolute. I don't like being absolute with regard to statements that i make But i mean as a global society is just so much we have to factor in so much. Should we have to consider you know but when it comes to alcohol you know you you have a lot of people at really should be avoiding alcohol completely and these are people that are taking over the counter or prescription drugs. People have certain medical conditions or even young people. You know. juvenile suicide is like it's going through the roof and and young people are getting together in groups relative to the lockdown schools being closed whatever the case and they're consuming alcohol in parents. Don't even know about it until it's too late. Then you also have women that are pregnant or trying to be calm pregnant. And the stresses of the uncertainty. Which would face with now determine alcohol and this is why i said earlier the long term effects to fall out of this pandemic wheat. We don't even know yet. What the fallout of be you know and but others that that should be looking to avoid alcohol. Those that you know when you're planning to drive somewhere or participate in activities that require optimal alertness coordination things of that nature and the more alcohol. We consume you know the more we required next time allow most cases. We put the bottle down temporarily recover bone. We're face with a stressful on the umbrellas. Pandemic he hits us in. We may need an extra class. That's not good in when you abuse alcohol and you wanna reduce stop drinking you. It's best that you seek medical medical attention counseling because after a certain point of abuse withdrawal symptoms can be deadly and many many many people on a way of any people lined unaware and with that being the case. This is why. I even recommend people download the app gauge in a private chat session with acupunctures. My way we offer telehealth. There's certain acupressure points that can help that. A very effective and after reading it not acupuncture but only acupuncture point to preaching can apply acupressure to them to assist with withdrawal symptoms. And a lot of people wanna be public and go public would be loud about the fact that they have drinking problems and this is why i say you know. It's important to have the acupunctures my life. Absolute all chat sessions private unless you asked me to ask a question or answer request on a podcast or on youtube channel video. See what types comments. Whatever how other people respond as well other than that. If you don't ask you know. That's i totally private. Just between acupunctures my life and you owe alcoholism is is is a serious serious serious problem today. You see in terms of this disorder relative to traditional chinese medicine. Alcohol has a strong toxicity whereas in a stomach it tends to induce distinction an adverse. Chee now when this reverse she goes up to chest attends to burn the liver and call bladder and it has a propensity to induce anger and mental disorder whiz clinically alcoholic delirium solution. Noses and paranoia are similar in chinese medicine to the syndromes drunken madness and drunken mania out dive a little deeper into that in a minute but alcoholism as a result of this pandemic has become a problem to society. You know we're also finding more people drinking heavily to cope with stress sleep disturbances boredom because of isolation you know she alcohol temporarily damp into the brain and the body's response to stress only to be faced which stress and anxiety again. Once you sobre wants to alcohol as you see alcohol abuse tends to cause agitations and brain that intensifies the stress response and as a result drinking alcohol. Cope tends to make problems worse and then you end up finding yourself drinking just to fix the problems that alcohol actually caused so again you know. I'll reiterate i it's it's it's important if you can contact acupunctures my life. Download the app gain access to free. Tell how will attempt to guide you through privately through this problem. You see alcohol. In traditional chinese medicine tends to be pungent taste and this is an eastern nutrition thing. You know the five tastes. Alcohol tends to be pungent in taste. And and pungent is more so tied to lungs and asked to forming phlegm in the body and can cause psychosis you see due to individual different when it comes to patient. Patients tend to present with different symptoms some being market signs of madness or mania which tends to be induced by excessive ci or excessive yaw and in some even by excessive internal cold yet which is in nature. You see those wit excessive ci of young or more likely again like i stated earlier to present with drunken mania which is young nature of course and those would excessive cold yen. Present with and madden's museum. Excessive drinking alcohol usually transforms dampness into heat and he becomes damp he which impairs spleen and stomach which is your middle jiao and it's responsible for postnatal which also eventually causes mental disturbance look at statistics here for a second as a result of the pandemic alcohol sales have increased by more than fifty four percent in the united states alone globally. I understand it numbers even higher collect. It's even higher but let's say age groups between thirty and fifty nine has seen roughly fifty four percent increase in alcohol. Consumption was age group between sixty and eighty seen a forty six percent these and alcohol consumption now when it comes to gender will be emailed have increased alcohol consumption by fifty seven percent two males at forty three percents race ethnicity alcohol consumption by white is a little more than seventy one percent by african americans. It's close to ten percent hispanics just below fourteen percent other racists combined just like a four point nine five. I mean this this this. We have a problem here and whatever we can do on our own. It's a start. But i'll go back to the worry that i used in my early episode smoking. When you decide you want to pick up that bottle because you're stressed because you know you lost your job or war domestic issues. A lot. Relative down certainty. Just say to yourself. Nope that's one way. You can attempt to start because it's not as if you just turn around and all of a sudden stop cold turkey but let's just say even if you take the gradual approach which is a more realistic. If you've got if you've gotten up to four to six glasses or two packs be us to get case of or two six packs. Try to cut down by one. And which when you've you've reached that limit of less by one you desire. Another one was to magic word. Nope mental shrimp and they were all resources out there. To help you powerful resources fam- you know because in your sober state turn to your partner your children into ask them to help you stop and if you feel it will be a problem just doing it cold turkey. Let them know you goals you know. Can you help me to shoes in a number go from six to five. Then after a certain point. Five to four four. Three tell you something that can help you. Hope you a lot. You be amazed exercise. I've already begun telling some of my patients or people that have contacted me be a private chat session on the acupunctures. My life at establish create an exercise regiment. You'll be staunched. And you replaced tranquil water because you have to rehydrate good exercise program is especially gotta have cardio cycles for yourself. You know simple things like look at your stomach. Oh my gosh. She's not flat. This is that you don't want to get a six pack. Shaw do crunches. And i just want amp up cardio. Enisa liquids consume lots of water rehydrate. Because that's another negative attribute to alcohol. Is dehydrate shoot. Send you to the bathroom. In nujis- is an average. We should consume roughly around seventy ounces of water per day or more. If we're releasing it from the body you you have to stop by just simply replacing which you've released from the body as a result of alcohol consumption you know. Why do i sing. On average seventy ounces per day is because as we talk we release order move to sweat. Bowel movement to really swore urination releasing water fluids and we. We have to replace that just from just almost daily activity so now imagine when you consuming alcohol. You ridding the body of that much more fluid and i just like the blanket fluids water because i mean is so many people outdated think because i drank a diet coke or you know had a fruit juice even a beer. I drink i get an. I consume enough flu which day you don't actually purging you. Those things a purging. You fluid content so that means you have to replace even more now alcohol. You know you you. You have to be able to think you know you drinking. You're running to the bathroom and you drink drinking. And you're running to the bathroom dehydrating so stress in your kid should ever johar just thinking about what to do into your internal organs damage if you just try and make self conscious of the damage is done to your body even before you decide to drink. You'd be amazed as to how much it affects. You once you get beyond that second glasgow second beer now is like subtle alarms going off and it you know i. I don't think i should be doing this. I really really don't think i shouldn't done you know but my experience in treating individuals who abuse alcohol like i said when the world of acupuncture you have two main areas one being drunken mania as i said previously which is yang nature. You know and it presents symptoms of. Let's say dizziness vertigo shaking the extremities a staggering gait oldness in the chest bombing. Red cheeks. Red is sometimes bouts with crying incursion hallucinations destroying objects attacking people restlessness day-night poor appetite. Oh you have to do is go to the mirror session tong. And you'll see like a yellow greasy tonko. We even check your pulse. very rapid. see those types of patients i. i've focus on strengthening spleen and removing dampness to relieve the alcoholic toxin and to ease their mind. Things are important acupunctures when it comes to alcohol. Don't under estimate acupuncture and what it can do what it can treat because some people think you know they're under the mindset that it's only good for pain and i've dealt with thousands of patients in my time that couldn't figure out how to do with me riyadh of illnesses or addictions and had no answers and bound themselves calling acupunctures getting in touch with accurate and enquiring. Like can you puncture help with x y and z. Because i've totally run out of alternatives. And as a state license board certified doctor of acupuncture becomes disappointing hearing that because in most cases if you had pursued acupuncture in the first place by at least the attempt was made whether it was your first choice of last addiction not a protocol in acupunctures awesome and dealing with addiction and certified in that area and use it a lot and it's very very effective but the the the other diagnosis again like i spoke of earlier can be drunken madness. Which as i previously stated his. Unh no symptoms present with a dark complexion dolby vision dizziness to go on steady pace memory. Dysfunction shaking ah game unusual crying and laughing. Sleeplessness restlessness chests fullness abdominal distension. Poor sometimes even tried bombing constipation of course because it's backed dehydration when you dehydrated. It's very hard for you to move your bowels but under the diagnosis of drunken madness in this case the tongue coating would be white in greasy. When i see patients like that i looked to relieve alcoholic toxicity and removed her biddy dampness and dredged orifices punctures. Great treating this problem just like smoking. Say spoken about previous episode. I'm going to get into drug abuse roach to this pandemic as well to not today but that's a problem also huge and just as i stated on Monday download the acupunctures. My life app from the google. Play store suits. You can ask questions. I've i've ready began receiving a few questions. And it's giving me ideas for certain topics i can discuss. I'd like to discuss but there's a lot to talk about relative to this pandemic what's going on. How did it. How does it affect the psyche. But i i. I really globally. I want all of you to understand that. Alcohol is a form of poison whether you drink socially aura you abuse it. You're putting poison into your body. Can the body detox recover. Yeah the human body. Human organisms awesome awesome. Because it's designed to repair itself but when it falls out of homeo- stations when it falls out of balance relative to yin and yang unless you address especially with acupuncture or even other modalities under the umbrella of chinese medicine because acupunctures just one therapeutic aspect of chinese mess but when gaining yawn falls out of balance wore the longer you go without restoring balance harmonizing in one affected meridian. Been affects the next for instance. For instance the liver meridian condemn affect heart meridian which can affect spleen meridian. The lung meridian. Than the kidding see this degenerating cycle and five elements of acupuncture. You don't want problems. Persist for a long period of time. You know another thing you know. It's just global to people are afraid of they feel an acupuncturist. Expensive is expensive and really. It's not don't be afraid to put an acupuncturist discussion financial situation. And get to understand the cost of it and how you can make it work for yourself but we have a problem here relative to this pandemic an alcoholism and it's something that has to be addressed sooner rather than later because it can negatively impact. It's already begun doing so future generations but start with china's self assess because it has to begin ed and see if you could come up with ways in which you can begin the process and some may require outside help and if you if you don't can't come up with any ideas you know you can contact acupunctures. My life will go to the website. Acupunctures my life dot com. Will you download the app when you call but this alcoholism is something that you really don't want to get out of control and if you in if if it if it's not affecting you directly but affecting a loved. One have to be proactive for that person. Because they may not be in a position out themselves so to be like an ostrich and put your head sand. I don't see it. I don't see hope it'll just goes away and even when you see them picking up a beer or glass of wine ore any form of apple push that was that was that mortga again nope they may be mad at you in the immediate but love yoon along for it system some gratification in doing this and knowing that you save someone you help someone see them. Resume healthy lifestyle. Get away from alcohol. Yeah but way face with a problem but anyway if you guys have any questions again like just download the acupunctures. My life app from the google. Play store contact but other than that. Everyone stay safe be well and until next time acupuncture is my life what's yours.
The STIGMATIZED States of America
"Hi this is darren serena. This is my podcast dancing bipolar. So i just want to preface this by saying that what i'm about to Bitch about is basically a first world. United states of america issue and I'm aware of it. But i need to get this off my chest because it's about ready to like take me down and You know for those of you who can't relate to it or just thinking that you know i am a god. What is the word that i'm thinking of like. I deserve everything kind of american. I'm not normally like this honest to god. Okay i really could give a crap about money are just i what. I'm trying what i'm going to be talking about. Basically is just the subjugation of a whole bunch of people in the united states and it does have to do with money however doesn't necessarily have to be money okay. This is just how it's presenting itself at this time. I i really avoid to political thing as much as i possibly can. And if there was any way that i could make not political i would just putting this out there. This is not a political thing. This is a right wrong. Fair telling the truth or lying You know kind of thing instead. So when i'm pissed about fucking jump to the chase because you know. I'm i'm like a little stone god ray and i'm like tired because now that i know that i'm never going to get paid this that we were all promised at the election. I actually can sleep a little better knowing. I am actually moniz society part of american society. Being somebody who receives disability benefits now all leading up to the november election there were a lot of promises made about stimulus. Money and blah blah. And all that and people bought it. Well i didn't really buy because because first of all. I don't really care about politics i do but i don't care about politics enough to know to keep my head in the game enough to realize when i need to fucking run ru fast to get away from some kind of government demonization or control or plan or propaganda or whatever. It is Now i wasn't allowed to vote in this past election. Because i was actually in patient and i was denied my constitutional rights to vote so some people would say. I have absolutely no way to say anything about this subject whatsoever and other people whatever. Okay i have a of people know that. I was not allowed to vote. I was denied my constitutional right to vote while i was impatient. So what i'm pissed about is the fact that they weren't honest. Okay now whether or not. I'm going to get my stimulus. I am defective in the eyes of joe biden. Let's just put it right there. Because he's the one who decides who gets the money and who doesn't so according to feel biden because i'm on disability defective in there for don't deserve to get stimulus whereas somebody who has jumped the border illegally Is a alleged child molester. And yet they get their money ahead of a united states air force veteran. Does anything wrong with this picture to you. Okay Things really wrong to me in this picture. And maybe i should be glad that i'm not getting the biden payout rate so like are not like getting in blood money or something like that but the fact is that we were all promises money and then when they start putting it out. It's like oh but no no not you. You like getting it because you're bipolar and effective in the. Us government does not recognize you as a citizen. But this guy over here who allegedly must children is not legal. We're going to give him money. Because you know whatever k- something's wrong now. A lot of people are saying that. I'm making a big deal out of nothing and maybe i am making a big deal out of nothing. But the thing that i'm trying to put across cure is that it starts like this right it starts with a small blunder quote unquote that gets fixed ultimately because enough people at this point in time. Where like. hey wait a minute. What the fuck are you doing. That's part of the united states to our part of the citizenship of the united states. So this time it's disabled people are next time it. Could you know this is all. i'm saying. It could be anybody. It could be any group any marginalized group any group that day decide to put the pinpoint on as your the ones that are going to be discriminated against this time. We need to be aware of what is going on around us. Okay now i zero is another funny thing about the money too. Because are so i had been getting like a loan shark type seeing from an online bank for months and months and months. I want to do it again this month. And instead of giving me the normal amount of money that they normally do it was a third of the amount of money that i normally borrow from them now. Do i really feel like that paranoid that. There's somebody you know in some little room somewhere. That's like watching my every frigging move and just doing everything possible to try to take me out of the game. Now he's on paranoid rate. That will sound really paranoid. If i were to say yes i do believe that too. I believe that well not exactly. But do i believe that quite possibly some kind of regulation came down right before the stimulus came in all the disabled people were excluded. Who would normally now going to these people to get enough money to make it to the end of the month and have that be slash. Do i feel like that could have been a plan i do. Actually you know in. I've had a neighbor come to me. Who's elderly and very ill and asked me to help him and i have done what i can. However i'm just wondering into roadblocks to but he has a series that the us government is legitimately. Just trying to kill off veterans by not giving them the care they need by denying services by you know Hospital appointments by rescheduling rescheduling and losing appointments. And all this and all that and when he first came to me. And i mean it's not the first for this i'm a vet and i know about the. Va enough to know that. I would rather die in open woods than go to the. Va for any services whatsoever. So it wasn't the first time i'd heard this. I kinda late kick it with a grain of salt and put it in the back of my memory and was like you can help you which. I'm failing miserably. I'm trying but you know there's bureaucracy run everything so anyway as a side note so now with this whole thing with the stimulus being denied all the people that are on disability and most of us probably being. I remember a large majority being service veterans. Maybe he's theory isn't quite as logical as it sounded when he first sent it to me rate so maybe they are trying to agenda twenty one us or agenda twenty four hours or agenda twenty six or whatever fucking agenda number were at by now. Okay so am i crazy or not. I have i mean okay. I'm crazy right. i'm fucking. I get paid. Well maybe my crazy because now maybe the next thing the government's gonna do is not give us our disability payments maybe they're gonna stop social security and maybe they're gonna stop food boxes and maybe they're gonna stop snap and enough people aren't going to be up front about it and be like whoa. Whoa whoa wait a minute. Maybe that's why. I making a big deal about this this time. So that people don't fall asleep at the switch so to speak at are aware of what is going on around you and what is being taken away from you and what could be taken away from you if you don't voice your opinion and get hurt. Yeah the squeaky squeaky wheel might get kicked and in a corner but eventually squeaky wheels gonna get some oil to it. It's just keep on squeaking until somebody does something to take care of it now if it is to take you out. Make sure that you had a big enough voice. That if they take you up people are like wait a minute. What happened to so saw. Where are they are. Keep yourself accountable. But also keep yourself in the forefront so that being disappeared or shut up or hospitalized or quarantine or isolated or rubber blot. Whatever it happens to you people realize that you are not around invisible and they'll be looking for you. That's really going to say about that. So yeah making a big deal about fourteen hundred dollars on. It was nice to pay my back rent. It would be nice to get a bed. So i'm not sleeping on the floor anymore. There's some things. I i really had hopes for this money. I don't have any hopes now. What hope for now is just to get paid on third and goal. I'm gonna get a pop up tent. And i'm on the fucking road. I'm gonna get the dogs from shoes and we're just gone because i'm not living like this anymore on this fear of what the government can or can't do to me because now they've done it and i don't trust the united states government at all anymore and that's my rant for today anyway. This darn shrines is my podcast bipolar. Hey let's stay alive okay. Leader hi this historic charene of dancing with bipolar as we all know cove. Nineteen better known as corona virus has spread throughout the world. There are a few ways to help lower the spread of this respiratory disease however. Wash your hands. Avoid touching your face including mouth nose and eyes cover your coughs and sneezes monitor your symptoms and consult with your doctor. Stay home and away from other people except for medical care. Clean and disinfect high touch surfaces for more information please visit cdc dot gov slash covid nineteen. 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"Hi this is don charleena's my podcast bipolar. Some you guys were ready. Made it into twenty twenty one and you made it out of this year and many of us are approaching closely. So it's pretty much a tri factor that you know twenty twenty. One isn't the end of the world rate at the beginning of it right. So yeah okay. We did it. I don't really have a whole lot to say. I i feel like i kinda doing these. Remembrance shows type things You know since. Well you know since forever i guess i guess i don't know what's going on not a whole lot Ambulance i guess we eat for my birthday. You know. I'm like a little stone. But i'm not drinking or anything like that in Just basically munching out drinking mountain. Dew eating cheetos and Eating sweet tarts by lake. I sort of got up a truck. Full of sweethearts came here and dumped pallets. I would be like super duper happy. you know that'd be awesome pallets just think you know miscellaneous boxes that come from fedex at our candy and food gaughman cookies and even the dog is like yeah rate Yeah so what are your everybody i mean. I know that trait in everybody says at every thing that you go to read is always like oh my god. We made it. We made it out what this year is. Kindly excuse me. We made it out. We made it out without an instruction guide without direction without any basis of knowledge as to what to we all made it superheroes people we rock. I'm not quite there yet. So i'm almost feel. I'm jinxing myself but i'm within like three hours. I can't tell. I would like to have hours in arizona of time to hit midnight. So it's clues close enough and you know the will resolution thing too i. I've never really done that. Because league when i figured out a goal or something that i'm going to do in my life i like to start to do. I don't have to four plan to do an action. That's probably going to actually benefit me just like take action and just do it. I if you're taking the assurance that resolutions do it if you need accountability You know let me know in. I'll i'll bump you you know every two three days on your toxin. See if you're doing what you're supposed to be doing man. I don't have a problem with that. Tried to keep up count ability of me. That's a little different story I need an accountability partner. Actually i like. I need a partner in crime type situation. I i'm not i don't know how to do. It's like i'm never gonna forget. Christopher i'm never gonna forget the love that i had for him in. I'm never gonna judge another person's love against christopher's love because it's impossible. I can't do that so i've kind of come to a place where i'm like. Maybe not so not okay with spending time with a specific person you know and i don't have anybody in mind right now. I'm just saying i'm putting it out there. Manifesting it may be like you know along in. Hang out in a you know smoke. We now that it's going to be legal. It is lee winners on soon enough. We'll be able to actually let go by it. And it won't be a way for people to hold power anymore. Over people in it will be freedom very highly taxed freedom but nonetheless franchise devora fume choose brings back. Wow talk about time. Travel song right. there are go. Go youtube divo- freedom of choice. And that's what i was doing. When i was fifteen on new years. That was the songs they're out of an gosh. I can't think of. I'm stolen right now to like. I can't remember them all. But adam i remember for sure The people that did i'd come to me later. And maybe i'll put them in the show notes but yeah music like new year's for me in music is kinda key 'cause like it's my birthday tomorrow and i usually albums for my birthday or i would like save whatever money i got and i would go by music with so music and my birthday is just so intertwined like you know i. It means something to me and because it's happening on my birthday. It has a bigger effect on like my whole aspect of life. And like i like how i and it was kind of like a mantra like the it set it set at the new year. Because that's what people say in so you know i'll go with. It will start the new year and my mantra. This year is you can always do better level up level up. Everybody look around. See who your circles are two Flexi whatever you know obtuse Away is going on. I would like to live in hogan's now like my my happened I can spell it like you see it right there. I was a hippopotamus. But i know that's not what it is but anyway whatever. Wow we're how did i come along anyway so Happy new your everybody alumni judy champagne or anything like that. 'cause i don't drink but i am stunned and it's just like i have a sense of relief about this kind of knowing that we're coming out of this year and i and i came out of it in lake. You came out of a physically a one piece a little fractured mentally. But you know better than most who went through the same experience. As i went through because i chose to heal and i went to therapy and i've done some work and i've i've done some work and that's you know that's a large part of it. I could be a record now. I do remember New year's last year with christopher ed Josh and we went to home depot at lake. I don't know ten forty seven or something to bring back up or get it. There was some reason why we had to be out that late at night. Night when the cops crawling there might my may or may not have been any form of illicit activity happening you know prior to the drive home depot or anything. We're somewhere along the line in that. Like our in fifteen minute time until midnight. They realized that they had not bought champagne. And i'll never forget it because to me was ridiculous number one because i don't drink number two because even if i did drink in even those new year's champagne is i would rather drink a hard cider. Even though that will shut my liver down in half a second. But i yeah deal man You know is called spitzer. you know. arguing just changing hot at midnight. You know i mean something that you actually enjoy. You know at midnight and said something that's gonna make you vomit like two and a half hours later Everybody celebrate at midnight I get cheetos can throw up so you know we're good. I'm a oh my gosh. What a great year. I would agree era for the show. And what a great year With our community that is. It's i know we have one because i look into numbers and i look at the countries and i know that there's groups and in all this and all that and i i'm humbled and I'm grateful for the platform. And i wanna make this year better Just for the for us. In general as far as lake you know like starting to get moved through in maybe legislation on some stuff which have to check into but not tonight. 'cause i'm stoned and it's my birthday and i get cheetos and way to mountain dew and i. I am way too happy. But i am happy. I'm not happy for the sugar happen. But i'm happy for the second i made it. We made it. We made it together. And because of you guys i kicked off my chest and like not wear my pain as much thank you wow was cisco mosul anyway. Wow raised so tomorrow. Switch canadian hip hop rapper star. Ready to explode star I'm seriously i've done some serious binging on his latest stuff. And i had binged on some of his older stuff prior knowing that he was coming on the show and he's ready to hit so you know why don't you guys go and be some of the first ones to discover him in help him break. Some numbers go check out. Cleopatra's nose Everywhere like it do whatever it is that you know showed that. It's been listening to i. I don't know what the whole download thing. I download a lotta shit tonight. Wound up just taking it all off anyway to eat my memory so i'm a little confused by the whole download situation except for like school. Shit i can go back but Do you know Just making known folk. Go listen to it. And it would be cool to see like his stats. Jump on my birthday guys. Wanna make my day if you two thousand listens to get the show twenty thousand. It's a lot to ask for but if you guys wanted to like kind of benji in ask friends to engine whatever i wouldn't complain of course so anyway We made it guys. We did it. We got through this year. We are superheroes and tomorrow switch of interviews at two pacific time in. You know. I don't edit and all that stuff so the show will probably be on lies five four So listen listen to listen to him. Check out his stuff. He's switched be at instagram. Go follow him and Listen to the show get out. There is going to be phenomenal. i already know it. Why twenty twenty. One is gonna be epic love. You guys thank you for hanging in there. This is dr trine. This is my podcast with bipolar in on pay. Let's all still live okay later. Hi this historic. Sharon of bipolar as we all know covid. Nineteen better known as corona virus has spread throughout the world. There are a few ways to help lower the spread of this respiratory disease however. Wash your hands. Avoid touching your face including mouth nose and eyes cover your coughs and sneezes monitor your symptoms in consult with your doctor. Stay home and away from other people except for medical care. 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The gas stove myth
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Find them at box dot com slash earth month. Do you have a gas stove or an electric one. There seems to be this conventional wisdom that gas stoves are better. But are they really. The oil industry has spent decades convincing us. That gas stoves are indeed better especially when it comes to cooking but gas. Stoves have a downside. They're very harmful to the environment. And maybe to you here to explain. Is rebecca lieber. She's a senior climate reporter. Vox but she actually wrote this piece when she was back at mother. Jones hair becca. Tell me exactly why. Gas stoves are perceived to be better than electric. What's the story of how they became king of the kitchen here. That myth is the result of almost a century of marketing from the gas industry itself. My reporting showed that starting in the nineteen thirties. The industry literally invented the phrase cooking with gas. The world of tomorrow is cooking with gas naturally. Just as nearly all of america's fine restaurants do ninety nine percent of the restaurants with the new york world's fair use gap record. And we've seen kind of influencers of the time from the forties fifties sixties marketing the gas stove s superior to really pivotal consumers like housewives. Why not have in your own kitchen the same cool clean control gas cooking that fine chef and fifth on live modern for less with guests and now we see that campaign updated for the social media age where the gas industry has infiltrated platforms like instagram. And even next door to directly market to consumers telling us that the gas stove is the pivotal kitchen appliance chart successful. Would you say this marketing campaign has been right. My reporting on the instagram influencers have been hired by the gas industry. Really show that. The market here is an affluent female consumer base that they're targeting that actually comes from the gas industry themselves when they're looking at consumers they want to convince to get behind the gas stove so we see fashionable young women on instagram talking. About how much. They love their gas stove. I think you can see the dust. They've gone to convince consumers. This is the superior product and this is all a attempt to kind of create this wedge issue when it comes to these climate battles that we need to be transitioning to cleaner fuels. I think people take for granted that it's a fact that the gas stove is superior for cooking not realize how much of that stems from marketing. And just kind of word of mouth but when we think about those assumptions and challenge them even the very phrase natural gas implies that the fuel is cleaner somehow than other royals but that in itself is a kind of marketing scheme. That industry has taken advantage of that. We might be biased towards thinking natural gas's cleaner when really it is a major polluting source warming our planet and also contributing to public health problems. Right i mean. But what percent of americans today Used gas stoves you tell me like curious how successful they have been at convincing people. That as you're saying with natural gas that that is a more natural Way to cook so overall about thirty. Five percent of americans use natural gas for cooking. But when you look at major cities especially on the coast that number climbs to well over seventy percent interesting we also see how gas stoves has climbed as a share for newly built housing Over the past century so it's actually climbed the last few decades to just about fifty percent for newly constructed homes so we see that number actually climbing at a time that we need to be phasing out natural gas and phasing out our addiction to fossil fuels to combat climate change. And when you look at the building sector overall are climate emissions actually account for twelve percent of us greenhouse gas emissions. So this isn't a small number right. So what's the big deal here. I mean If people feel it somehow makes cooking better you know. What is the downside. You've kind of obliquely referred to it a few times. Tell me about the environmental impact of gas does so. Gas is a major contributor to climate change but also problems that affect public health. The gas stove is Emitting a host of dangerous pollutants. Just like the tailpipe of your car so that includes emissions particularly matter formaldehyde. Carbon monoxide and nitrogen dioxide and nitrogen dioxide is particular concern because it's not regulated endorsed. So people don't know the amount that is coming from their stove which can on the linked to an increased risk of heart attacks and asthma and other respiratory disease. Okay so scientists have found that these stoves are admitting dangerously high levels of nitrogen dioxide on one. Study out in california. Showed that running the stove in for forty. Five minutes can produce pollution levels that are considered illegal outdoors and one clean-air scientists told me that cooking is the number one way you're polluting your home. So sounds like this is pretty bad. Yeah it's definitely a problem. i think we're just at the beginning of the public understanding. What a big health problem this is a policy makers doing about that or is all individuals to switch from gas to electric wok can regulators or cities Where gas stoves have become much more popular. What are the people in charge doing about this. I think when it comes to climate action. It's always about the policy not just individual action so already more than forty. Two municipalities across the country have strengthened their building codes to discourage new hookups to gas lines in new construction so that movement has been growing especially into twenty twenty one as cities in washington state and california and even york city are looking at how to phase out gaslines in new buildings a powerful clean air body in california just at the end of last year issued. Its most aggressive statement yet saying that california should fees out in new construction to protect public health on the other hand. The industry's fighting aggressively here. And it's not just in marketing The gas industry has successfully passed a handful of laws in states to stop cities from pursuing these stronger building codes and We just see this fight picking up that this is now taking off in about a dozen states. These laws called preemption to stop cities from adopting more aggressive targets. Going about near piece. Is this idea. Electrification as another possible way for at least individuals to Rethink their gas choices in their home. What is electrification. You're already electrifying your home. If you're buying water heater that is electric or have a toaster oven. You plug in that is electric ation. Because you're not relying on the gas line That's powering you're building or home so this is key to climate action because our power sector is getting increasingly cleaner powered by renewable sources. While if you rely on gas line today you're likely that building will still be relying on gas hookup. Fifteen to twenty years from now and what an electric home look like more broadly at a large scale. Tell me what a full electric home might look like. And what kind of different to that make on climate. Well the first thing that would look like is a home with an induction stove. This is a newer technology. That most americans aren't familiar with their familiar with the technology. From maybe the sixties when they say i hate the electric stove but induction is much more common in other countries and from what. I've heard my reporting people who use it. Love it so that's the start of an electric home. But like i said there's other smaller ways. People are turning to electrifying appliances. And i think when we talk about the electric home We can also start talking about other sectors like transportation like when we talk about people buying electric cars that this is an effort that has to touch on much more than just the stove to begin to draw down climate emissions vocal. You already have gas stoves. Is there anything that they can do to reduce their impact climate or is it. You know the only option effectively to try to electrifies much of their life as possible. Well the best tip. I have is if you're worried about your health that you should increase the ventilation of your home. So that means if you have it turning on the fan above your stove but also purchasing an air purifier on and if you don't even have that opening a window it's very important to increase ventilation as far as the impact for climate goes. Unfortunately there's less to do their because one we're talking about the climate emissions from the gas stove. We're not just talking about what's in your kitchen. But the entire fossil fuel chain when gas and methane leaks at any point in that process. So we do need to solely transition away from gas but there are other ways for people to get involved getting involved in local politics and pressing for change and i think those are the ways. People can really express their air opinion lever. He knew the stoves would be such a hot topic. Thanks for joining us. You can be more of a work. Vox dot com and thanks so much for joining us this week. Yeah thank you this great. Send us your thoughts on all things. 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HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY ANGEL BRIS
"Hi this is. Don sharon and this is my podcast ending bipolar. Well we made it through another week somehow. Ry well. I don't know. Maybe i don't know how you guys is week was is kind of. I've i've been overwhelmed. You all know that so to make it through another week and actually have accomplished stuff and beginning things done and receiving help and asking for help. Like i tell you guys to do all the time. This was not a suicide incident. This has nothing to do with self harm or anything like that but just in general. You know You know if you've listen to the show for since the beginning we're almost up to two years on this baby unbelievable But you know me. I always always encourage you to ask for help and to be brave and all that and i finally broke down and follow my own advice and thus i have received a microphone in order to do the listenable course with because i think i mentioned last time. I know i mentioned last time. What a nightmare. This was becoming for me in that. I wasn't actually sure that it was worth it to do it. Because it was just so becoming so complicated just It was it was taking me out. Man it was. It was triggering bipolar and it was. It was taking me out. And what i did was. I actually asked for help on facebook. Neighbors helping neighbors page and my friend. Evey stepped up to the plate and just bought me one and You know it's so humbling to for that to happen when i'm not used to this and you guys know some things. Some what about my childhood in one of these days. I'm actually gonna lake do a show about. Were what i've come from and you know some of the that it was just awful but I don't know how to receive gifts. I don't know how to ask for help. And i don't know how to take a compliment and a lot of things that i'm having to learn how to do right now because things are happening and I'm learning that you can still be gracious and humble at the same time and that you can ask for help in people will give it to you and not expect anything back you know and i do that all the time i i give my i give i give and giving give and i never expect anything back from people because i'm genuinely giving because i want to help and to have that reciprocated to me is just so absolutely weird. But i'm gonna learn how to deal with it better because you know not only did ev. Step up my friend ben from threads. podcast I wish i could remember what the thing is after the threads his name is ben cracker my buddy ben cracker who interviewed me a long time ago and stepped up to the plate to do my sound for me. So it's like people are genuinely wanting me to make it. And i am really confused by it Accepting it hopefully in the right way. Because like i said. I don't know how to do this. Like i don't know how to accept gifts. And i i'm just you know i'm fifty six years old and my life is actually like bewildering me at this point because i'm experiencing things i have never experienced People being seriously happy for me and not jealous and not trying to backstab me and not having a terrier motive and not be all out for themselves and and is amazing you know And you guys to god. Last week i turned it in five countries taiwan. Oh my god. I can remember taiwan mongolia. India oh my god. I can't remember casick's sandwiches like hello kazakhstan. So random love it. Thank you and i wanna say. China china india mongolia kazakhstan on keeping him. So tired guys anyway. It doesn't matter. I just the fact that you guys are listening consistently and our loyal loyal loyal fans and listeners. Is i mean that is more than enough for me and you have no idea how much i appreciate you guys how much they actually need. You guys like. I may need your more than you need me. Because without y'all i would be. I would be not who. I am right now so I just wanted to give a shout out. Shot the band shot. The ev ev. Who just actually facebook. That's funny just comes up on notifications on my phone. But what i wanted to do today. in this is going be kinda short because i'm tired and you can tell i'm stumbling over my words. I spent all day today. Finish writing this listenable course and my brain is like just far. I didn't sleep well last night. peanut sleepworld last night either had a stomach issue. 'cause he something dead out of a snowbank yesterday and last night he paid for it. I too but i wasn't sleeping anyway so know you know how that goes rate his a good old. The sleep sleep sleep disturbance occurrences that we have with bipolar. No fun but what. I wanted to talk about and Anyway let me just let me just cut to the chase. Today's christopher's birthday. He would have been thirty five today. Had he not committed suicide and i wasn't. I wasn't going to do anything to memorialize today. Because it's still tragic and it's a trauma but because of all the success of happening and everything that is coming to the forefront for me and all the things that i've been given opportunity to do never would have happened without christopher my bris and it would seem wrong for me to not mention him on his birthday and held a similar to lose it now. I've held it together all day. Like really really well. I kept myself super-busy. And i've been trying not to think about it but i've got all my work done and even though i have group therapy tomorrow and i will surely lose it in there at some point tomorrow When i talk about this it just seemed important to touch base with you guys on this as to how we handle the anniversaries and birthdays of people that we have lost in our lives. And do we still celebrate them. Even though they're no longer on this earth with us. And i mean i in my own way celebrate christopher every day i really do. There's not day that goes by that. I don't think about him. I have this painting with angel wings above my bed. So i feel like he's guarding me. Every night while. I'm sleeping. And not. I honestly not a day goes by that. He doesn't cross my mind. At least i want say a hundred times a day but that's like we're real super over exaggeration. But several times a day you know Think about him or forget he's dad and wanna rush to go. Tell him something and then when that realization hits me that you know he's no longer here that sadness just kinda hits you because it's like the one person in the world that you wanna share all this awesomeness with you. Can't i mean. And i do talk to him and i'm you know i'm already bipolar. So you know my reputation in this trailer. Park is already sullied. So i talked myself day and night. And what else are they gonna talk to buy movies crazy. You know you absolutely no. I'm crazy as a loon. But i just you know with all the deaths that people have suffered this year with co vid and covert related suicides. In just we've just been a lot of people that have passed away this year this past year. You know coming into this year recovering up to the air year anniversary of the first lock down. Search shortly is march march fifteenth. Is that when we lucked on the united states for some round. I think it is and i know i am not the only person that has lost somebody in. I know i am not the only person that has had a birthday or an anniversary or some other memorable event. Come up that. Your person is no longer here with you to celebrate. And i'm just curious like how do people handle that. You know There had been plans earlier earlier. You know that there's going to be a party and a celebration of life for him in You know all that stuff and of course it didn't it didn't come through to fruition and money time mostly money. I still have something. I'm going to do for him that Not gonna talk about right now but something that will memorialize him For eternity you know until he's come back again and i miss him. Do i miss him so much. I miss his shitty attitude. And mrs laugh and misses his son in i mrs aloofness and his humor this temper. Which when he was alive man. I did not dig the temper but i would be more than willing to have him. Call me a beep beep beep beep and and take it and be grateful for it. So i'm just not sure I mean i ultimately am okay. I've done a lot of work to get to this point regarding his death. And i just don't i sometimes feel like people think that i forgot about christopher because i've calm so far in my recovery from his death. How could i ever forget anybody like him. That has changed my life in such a way that even posthumously. His effect is still in my life in a positive way. I can never forget him. Never and i just wonder how y'all handle that like culturally afflict that like. I don't know if in some places if you're allowed to even think about the deceased after a certain point in time or there's just so much weird mp ambiguously around deaths that we don't talk about enough. I don't think we don't. We don't talk about the grieving in and we don't talk about. We don't talk about our own selfishness of somebody. And i'm not sure that that's actually selfish. You could take you take this victim mentality where it's all go woes mean stuff in. I don't do that. Because i am grateful to have known. Christopher and i am grateful that he came into my life at a time when he needed to be there for me and i needed to be there for him and he taught me more. He taught me more things than i even realized because the more that time goes on the he's not here for more. I'm remembering the lessons. He taught me in the more things coming up that he showed me. And you know He was integral part of what is happening to my life right now so i couldn't let it go by you. Know without wishing him a happy birthday in heaven and letting them know that i love him and honoring him again just for who he was and who he was to me in what he was for the show and how inspired me to be a better person into be a better version of myself and if that is the only thing that he is remembered for than it is still a grand feet that he accomplished on this earth because of him i will be changing lives. I will be doing my destabilization tour. Probably sooner than later. I will be putting a face to what it is to have a mental health agencies. And how not to be scared. How to stigma in how to own your diagnosis. And not the victim into thrive. And i have to thank christopher for giving me all the self confidence i never had to go forth and do that to change your community to affect positive change on humanity. Christopher may no longer put his boots on stop to my door like he used to break my sliders and all the stuff you used to do. He is still very much part of this world for as long as i'm alive. My bris live in my heart. So anyway guys. That's my tribu. There's stuff coming up. And i'll do another show I just wanted to not let this day go by in half his birthday. Be forgotten and remember podcast global summit this week. One who marched i. V mytalk are on the third at five thirty p. m. e. s. t. Go to podcast global summit. Sign up with code dancing with bipolar. Free tickets look like we're going to break a guinness book of world records here and you all can get a certificate to if you are part of the community. So go do that. Okay and Do it to honor christopher okay I would love to see that number to blast up and out and know that it was you guys my loyal audience and friends that pushed it over so anyway guys. I'm gonna be okay. You all know how it is anyway so This darn serene. This is my podcast with bipolar. It on let's all stay alive. 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How the Covid surge has left the NHS on the brink
"Today a nightmare afghan. Nhs as one in fifty people across england become infected with covid nineteen. Tell me about your job. I love my job. My stays On sundays are harder than others. But i've been in the nhl now for about ten years. Don't to samantha about rawdon is president of the doctors association. Uk and intensive care doctor working in the south east of england. Where once again. She and her colleagues are under intense pressure dealing with a massive surge in critical kobe. Nineteen cases things are things are quite tough amendment certainly guiding tofte as each day goes on feels like we all in in march april. Except this time it to us the cases in seem to be going exponentially the number of patients that we all seeing with. Kobe is just coming. And there's no end in sight is time. It's it's anything i've experienced what red is describing is being repeated in hospital after hospital. It's why full lockdowns have been introduced across the u k. I'm why some fairly nhs cooked collapse within twenty one days from the guardian. I'm new stana today. In focus how covid nineteen became the biggest challenge. The nhs has ever faced dennis campbell as health policy editor at the guardian. You know the nha inside out. What does boris johnson main. When he says it could collapse within twenty one days for means basically hospitals in particular will just not able to do. The job will not be able to cope with the huge huge ongoing spike in people. Who are ceo with covert many hustles already beyond full on. He's talking about scenario in which on the current rate of escalating numbers hospitals will simply have nowhere to put the people who need care. I'm not the south look after them. That's the situation. She has has never been before. And you obviously covered that. I way right through to the peak that what have we seen unfolding over the last few weeks and how does it compare to them. So the difference now. Is that all of the numbers are bigger. And therefore worse. More infections daily more hospitalizations daily bigger numbers and bigger proportions of hustle beds in hospitals overall capacity taken up with people whose life is endangered. Because they've got covert maintain cruciate others a very very high staff. Sickness rate across yanez particularly in hospitals has has normal stock absence rates. You to sicknesses about four percent normal times. It's running many place between eight and twelve on a part of it being as high as fifteen sixteen percent in some other places. So you've got two or three times a normal normal number of staff off but more patients who are really critically ill in needing care than that's the worst of all worlds and that's it just england. What about the rest of the k. Extraordinary pressures on care and services and staff are being felt across the whole of the uk. We cannot keep going in this direction or national health service will fall over. It will not be able to cope with what is going on just a few weeks ago. L. service northern ireland had to call for help in effect from the colleagues in the ambulance service across the border in their public about for the first time ever tents to treat people in triage people in being put in put up and car park sites at hospitals. The health service and wills on scotland all again under the impression of the staff on the same pressure. Those in england and we'll get the next few weeks will be incredibly difficult. I'm sorry to ask for further sacrifices after nine long months of them but these sacrifices are necessary. What hospitals doing in response to this unprecedented demand. The are all expanding their intensive care capacity as best the com. We've done everything we can to make some space and try in low cost patients as best we can but what that means for some the ground turning places in the hospital will never mentioned graceful. Karen faces while icu. Patients can be toft uneven even then those areas are now full. So we've been trying to trust that out with the southeast but as far as chair or southwest which is not young precedent to. It's never ever think about transferring patients off. Aw to try and find the beds. I didn't spring. They are increasingly repurposing. Staff shifting staff from other areas from internal medicine. Elective surgery any other as of care or they have skills that are very useful in intensive care critical care on hoping that they can make up the numbers to give the patients who are in with covert the best care possible philosophy. People who have come to grips with tag never work before surgeons. We've got people from other specialties. Working with artie unity's obse could never replace it on that. So we've got this expanded army on the ground. Say things all toss the name. It's it's easier with a good team around you. i think. Deanna chef said all over the summer. Whenever the first we've had had subsided that come the second way if they were going to do the absolute level best to keep elective surgery going given the the the huge trouble that was caused by the widespread suspension of care in the spring whenever people couldn't get hot operations cancer operations care for stroke also a whole range of of medical conditions. Sadly unfortunately the same thing is happening again day by day more hospitals now coming on having to cancel both elective surgery fairly not fairly normal stuff like cataract-removal but also we've been reporting this week about some hospitals particularly in london had to council urgent cancer operations. Never heard of urgent operations. Have to be council before. It's very very rare very unusual. That happens but sadly it's happening because hospital simply do not have the capacity to do both things at once and often with heartbreaking consequences. You and i spoke about cancer cap in the summit. Ns and you put me in touch with show in whole who was just twenty eight spent months trying to get a scan for pain. He was having by the time he finally got a the cancer. Were so aggressive. The sadly we learned that he lost his life late last year. Yea- must still be hearing stories like that. I'm afraid am. I wish weren't but let me just read you an email. I got a couple of days ago from a guardian reader. Who told me hi. His dad had been diagnosed with bowel cancer on the eighth of december after having had a colonoscopy and a cat scan his dad was used to go into surgery at a hospital in yorkshire on the twenty second of december less than two weeks later but he was sent home on the day after arriving in hospital because of a shortage of intensive care beds. His operation has been rescheduled for the twenty first of january. But who knows whether it will go ahead. He said and my dad's case his counters described as large but hasn't yet spread but because of other health issues. Chemotherapy very risky which means johnson get into surgery. Fairly soon it will spread a mccown. Inoperable is just so devastating. The that care is being sidelined once again but even covid itself is forcing doctors to make difficult choices. That's right so i. i'm hearing from governors. That hospitals are because of the circumstances of the horrendous circumstance. They're facing are it affects starting to ration care in two ways first of all patients with covert hatchery. More sick to get into the hospital in the first place. I've heard some hospitals where now in the spring if your oxygen saturation levels his fault had fallen as low as ninety-three or ninety-four. You definitely have good. But not hospitals on are applying ninety. Have to be she. Oxygen sats have to be as low as ninety or under to get in simply because they cannot deal with everyone and everything. That's coming out then. The other more troubling thing which has been speculated by unas a great source of ethical debate amongst doctors is whether or not once people come in the hospital severely ill with covert are some hospitals in effect. Informally rationing care again. One intensive care doctor in the midlands tells me that in recent days hospitals in the midlands london and also greater manchester doing this and always if older frailer people with underlying conditions are coming in whenever they are already. They've got pretty much every icu. Better ready taken. Putting those patients straight onto palliative care without offering them spell and nine hundred i to be. Nhs acknowledged this is happening. The energy has acknowledged that this happening under is no official national energy s wide policy in this. This is not being done at the discretion of Doctors on individual hospitals as a response to the circumstances they are in for. What about the extra facilities that were built to try and deal with this. What happened to the nightingales. They being used this time round. So it's a mixed picture. The nightingales a few of them are being used but certainly all of the great attention back in the spring was on the the nightingale in london. The first one to open prince charles opened it was meant to be four thousand bed. Mega critical care unit. It was used for something only over. Fifty patients lose a plan apparently to reopen it this week with a bite. Three hundred beds but the trouble with with that nightingale on the others is that there simply are not the staff in the chess to provide this extra capacity that was planned whenever all the nineteen years where we're fresh created back in the spring. Whatever you've got a situation where hospitals were under staff before the pandemic the sickness and isolation from kobe wiping out huge of stuff at the moment is terrifying. Come one hospital in east. London has reportedly gone into disaster medicine. Mode what does that mean. This was the royal london hospital in london's east end. it emerged last week. That that Senior managers had sent a memo runs to some of the staff warning quote. We are nine disaster medicine mode. We're no longer providing high standard critical care because we cannot as what it said admirably. Admirably candid obviously not meant to be three lead to the media the way it was but that is just him more honest brutal expression of what doctors on hustle bosses. Tell me now pretty much every day. Nurses well that the just come in the current chaotic ever more pressure seconds. They just cannot guarantee the quality of care that patients would normally get and there are there are some reports off limited supply oxygen supplies hospitals to people receiving either mechanical ventilation or non invasive ventilation because of the sheer number of patients requiring oxygen and certain hostels hostels having to limit the amount of oxygen. They can have. I mean what impact is all of this. Having on the staff working inside intensive care units and in other parts of the hospitals. So i got a message yesterday from a friend. Who's a doctor. A consultant working with covert patients every day every week in a major hospital. I'm gonna read it to you to give you an insight into things on so they're in intensive care. He said the staff particularly the nurses have three times workload as normal looking after three patients with covert compared to one normally basic person intensive care these patients that looking after good double the morbidity on the mortality either risk of dying on the fact of dying compared to normal patients who who require intensive care on this is all happening to a specialty of staff intensive care staff who he says are the most highly trained yet and his view the most undervalued underpaid unvaccinated. An almost certainly have the highest rates of ptsd amongst the us workforce co from from dealing with the first wave of the pandemic samantha as an intensive care. Doctor a. you're right on the front line. This must've taken it's toll. I think it's it's co with people yet a don't think it's co op with me yet Certainly during the first wave the end of the first wave and everything settled down. We started to see a considerable mental health button amongst house professionals. Certainly we saw a lot in all networks intensive care for. Can you describe what it's like. Treating patients treating severe respiratory disease is all and butter in intensive care very much what we used to believe that there was going week suffered i coating but with david. People have these critically die. Walks in nepal's understatement when you don't have enough oxygen you feel this sense of euphoria in the city. Now annetta okay unless mining e when you you you x. Ray them in you look at the knowns and these x-rays are according to describe the on nothing like i've ever seen before and you can just see the covets in every night Lungs and you know that patient loss of ready under threat. We know the it. Disproportionately affects the hours. They merged respite young patients. Many of the patients in noticeably younger than in the first wave zico subject is forty six he and twenty days ago and was an intensive care for two weeks. I felt myself that. I make it at some moment and patients who have never had anything wrong with them and then life you were out. Running hoffman within. He would come in and he would have no idea how low their auction of worth and they would be fighting for their logs on events later and that's not normal. That's not something that we see often in critical care. And i think that's been one of the one of the hardest things about it because you have the option d to form that relationship with patients even though the critically ill that's what we call in in medicine of ocean the toll come died patients And we know that that's what people find really hot and that certainly were. I knew what i find really hard. I admit that i saw people around me. That didn't make it at a time. And i. I believe that. I was the first one for that. Ten days dot got discharged successfully. How you will coping. Well released a run these big Face it reach a doctor so we've got forty nine thousand dollars per cell platforms and it's really really hard to motivate people around in the first wave. Everyone from skied. Everyone's worried Ever really to into muck in sutton felt very proud to be able to use more skills to help time than most needed but then as the reality of the fast wife hits the number of patients we would. We were seeing but will save a number of colleagues that we lost six hundred. Fifty out is who is on that very quickly. Dentists the moran. We had this time around all a second peak. This is this is just insane much less the number of patients we are saying is going up so pick the you know. We don't know when it's going to get better. we know. Is that a lot worse before it does get better. Did you lose friends. did you lose calling. yes so. I just three Yeah thoughts. Let's really hard. You know who lives in children. A just calling was how difficult that is. You scott have you had. I'm scott for myself won't really You know i'm worried. Say the on marines I've always had presto protective equipment Ney seeing people get sick and die all around. Dd worry about what will happen. A top covid very early on in march from cetinje navels. In covid it was flu. I lost a lot of white. Which i'm gonna take a win but just couldn't alphabet for weeks Putting think like it so it might well have been. But i've been offered an unspoken But you just have to push out of your mind radio. Thank you if you're worried about what might happen if you pay bits. Then you wouldn't you be able to do your job properly in the the patient interview to go to work with a sense of dread. Why wouldn't say sense. The treads sometimes it's not sometimes. There's a pay of audie that sits in white sock definitely anything Because i run this big for dr sue. Even if i'm not on the front nine even if i'm off the i'm being emailed texted by doctors or i the four am seeing is happening and other places that country you dr succumbing to to me into us really really distressed by what they say they offered to do which they would never be acidy If it wasn't a pandemic Comp radio got away from it up. Tried to stop watching the knees. I think like most people. But it's just something we'll we'll living with. There have been protests hospital from people who don't believe this is happening. What would you say to them. I'm so i know about as fast because As a colleague of mine use it a junior doctor ame they were working on new year's eve and is a radiologist by account used one of those beaten pretty broken by the end of it and in came out and then all these people outside of this busy london. Hospital with an icu. Full to bursting of in critically ill people and the people outside i mean holds people without mosques owed shouting cave is a hikes announced off that coming out of this belting wa people who was sick undying love to say. This is an isolated incident bob. Unfortunately it's it's renal we've nhl staw unfortunately being abused. I mean i. I had a message the other day saying. Oh unin cat. He's dying and honestly the I'm not gonna rape on him books because it's so horrible it's just. That's just really heartbreaking. You don't see why people would think that just off allowing you can see it. You're the pitches of bamboo. Lances the queuing Hospitals that real the rail and they've all go patients inside maybe the centralized through nha england. Say hall to speak up in the nhl up when you have organizations like mine in you do have a role who already people to amplify the voices of nhl stoff. Nothing doctors invitation. Fill this duty to get over. How serious is why so shocking and when you say centralized z. Saying that they're not letting stories out there. You are so we saw this very eliane. Cave is being handled us not level four major incident by an interesting them which is absolutely writes the positive that has meant that emails went out to trusts. Sign that comes with being centralized and it just england annette. For two kenyan days staf A disciplinary meetings and we know this because we supported losses. Ice doctors at the doctor's siltation. Uk coming up. How made it harder for the nhs to cope with copay ninety. Dennis is it the case. That years of under-investment have left the nhs struggling to cope with this. This is very important an an. Let's not beat about the bush if you look at any reputable survey that is done for example by the oecd about the amount of health resources that western industrialized nations have britain. The nfl comes at best in the middle of the league. Table and very often vague. Where worrying near the bottom of the league table for the numbers of doctors per head of population the number of nurses per head of population on the similar story for hospital beds ventilators critical care beds all of critical resources that you need to run a health service particularly in the sort of crisis mode. Anna chess is now in. We have much much less off as the fifth or sixth richest nation in the world. I'm staggered that. This has been tolerated for so long. The current government has increased the amount of money going into the energy and that's great but the historic underfunding. The impact is felt on an arleigh daily basis in hospitals across the land. An idiot in the energy s will tell you that the. It is rubbish. There aren't enough beds. There aren't enough staff amazed as a nation. We put up with us. You've covered health for more than ten years. How bad is this. How bad could it get. And what do you think it means for the future of the nhs so the already in place. It's never been before people use words like that. It's just becoming overwhelm. The nana's falling over. It's already happening so anyone who doesn't think that is kidding themselves. On hospitals on entire areas of the country health systems and entire parts of injuries are ready falling over on overwhelmed. It's obvious to me from talking to staff in recent weeks staff of the sharp end of this latest wave on doing an incredible job and horrendous circumstances displaying the usual dedication to the patient or colleagues maybe even more unusual gone the extra mile working on paid overtime as ever kind of the invisible axle grease the energy s coming in giving up their christmas and new year. Holy answering calls of distress busy from employers. Hospital trusts to say we need some extra bodies on the ground. Can you come help us. So all of that's been good on staff during their very very best In really really difficult circumstances. I spoke to a chief executive yesterday and i said or oral lease case at the moment. Y'all nice so huge cash. Because christmas and he said ono the christmas impact from all the chris mixing. That's yet to come. That will probably be this weekend. And i said given the your hospital mena the others already almost at full stretch of gone beyond super surge if you like what will the plan b. And he said. I don't know What would you like to see happen. We fall into town tonight. knockdown is going to be the last one edyta helpful for anybody to have these continual cycles down on the expert said twas time that we should have had a full lockdown and we shouldn't have come out as quickly as we did and i think that was right but that's not what happens this time. Just hope that if we're asking the public to once again make so many sacrifices to lockdown for third time new a think meaning to be clear that we've got proper exit strategy and that the government's going to listen to the expert and not come out to ati cases wise again only to lock down again. So that's what. It's that's why i'd really like to see just one last question. Are you angry. i'm not angry. Move just it's just so frustrating when your frontline as you can see things going wrong when you're saying Really bottle. I like what you doing we need. We need to plan a nobody's listing and it feels like to shop into the void thoughts haunt Of not hungry or fight on knowing great. On just i'm just frustrated. Un's many doctors upset because adjusts with the amount of life that we've lost and think you know we tried to speak up. We try every we tried to save saturday on to the four we could have saved lives. You know that's what's really halts. That was samantha that rawdon president of the doctors association. Uk and the guardians health policy editor. Dennis campbell samantha has written a comment piece about this for the guardian. Do go to the website to read it where you can also find dennis's brilliant reporting. We did go to an hsa england about this piece and sources rebutted a number of suggestions pointing out that the nhs have not run out of icu. Beds anywhere in the country and so there was no reason for patients to be triage any differently. They pointed to statistics suggesting older patients. Over sixty and seventy made up a higher proportion of icu. patients in this wave. so far. Compared to the first wave and they highlighted significant advancements in care including new treatments suggesting it was untrue to claim that anyone was missing out on treatment. They also said they had been proactive in grunting media access including to the guardian. That's it for today. 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The Infectious Myth with David Crowe
"Welcome to the propaganda report. I'm Monica Perez Brinkley. Here why normal cows Brad Brinkley? And we have a very special guest today as you all know we do not do as many interviews as as maybe we should but when something really important comes up we absolutely make it a priority so today we have as a guest somebody. I wanted to talk to you for years. Actually because he's really the only person I know who can explain what his area of expertise or at least interest is as well as he does. This is David Crowe. He's a telecommunications consultant environmentalist or writer and critic of Science and medicine. He's a founder of the Green Party of Alberta he was the founder of the Alberta Reappraising Aid Society and is the President of rethinking AIDS. He's the Co host of the PODCAST. How positive are you and host of the podcast? The infectious myth and that last thing there is something that our listeners. A lot of listeners. Probably won't even know what that means. So Hello David. Thank you so much reading here. Thank you Monica. So much for having me on your show today looking forward to talking to you. Yes and what I want to appreciate your time. I know you're busy and what I'm really trying to do. I was really blown away the first time I heard you interviewed because it hadn't even occurred to me that he you know what it means. The expression germ theory really means and as soon as you started talking. I thought yeah. What exactly is a virus? And I don't really understand and it seems like from now you kind of woke me up to being aware of some of the holes in virology and I just was wondering if you could just tell us what you call your. Your brand is the infectious meth. Can you summarize for us? Kind of what? The Myth is what you think. The truth really is. Yeah well first of all. I'm really focused on viruses and other modern concepts so in my book which I hope to call the infectious myth. I will talk about mad cow disease which was believed because by prion which is just protein. So it's even smaller and you know less impressive than a virus. I agree that there are infections. Caused by bacteria and parasites and things like that so. I'm not really covering those. Although I do tend to think things like tuberculosis. The infectious component of that is is over emphasized. I mean the reason why miners and South Africa. Get through Assists and doctors don't because miners have damaged lungs and so it's not really true to say that to per kilo says it's purely an infectious disease but with viruses. It's much worse than that and gradually come to the realization that the whole field of are all g might be rotten and viruses just a way to cover up environmental diseases and and basically I'm using environment in the broadest possible sense. Not just the air you breathe in the water you drink but if you take pharmaceutical drugs if you take recreational drugs if you're exposed to pesticides all of those things are immediate environment and a lot of can cause disease and as a big incentive to blame that on a on a virus For example I was shocked when somebody told that polio might have been caused by exposure to pesticides but as I looked at the data I was being challenged with I. I realized you know. Why does polio have this incredible seasonality so it only occurs during the fruit harvest season? No matter where you are in the world and prior to World War. Two fruits were treated with arsenic based pesticides. That was the most common type of pesticide. And after World War Two there was a massive usage of the organic chlorine and then later the organo-phosphates and this correlates greatly with polio. And there's many other things too. Let's just one data point but that kind of blew me away and then I started to look at I hated look at HIV. I and all the environmental connections in terms of exposure to blood transfusions. At the use of inhalant drugs called paupers by gay men so I started to ask the question. You know when we blame issue WE BLAME THE CORONA VIRUS. Are we actually dealing with an external infectious agent? And the fact is that Virologists have been cheating since the nineteen thirties before nineteen thirties. They just had to make stuff up because they didn't have the electron microscope. So the nineteen thirties. Should it be in the beginning of the golden age of IRA because now you can see things a smallest what they thought viruses Were but the reality was they. Couldn't they couldn't find just admitted that right because that's when it would have been like. Wow you're theory was right. And what was the odds that they really got it right and it's still just a theory. That isn't absolutely. Yeah proven. I mean there's a wonderful paper by a famous. The Nineteen Thirties named Thomas Rivers. And I think it was an after dinner. Speech might be important because he might have been a bit more relaxed in what he was saying. It wasn't really formal scientific paper but it still cited today. But he said something. I'm paraphrasing slightly. It is obvious that viral diseases have not been have not satisfied. Clocks postulates and Cox postulate how you prove that. The pathogen causes disease. So if you haven't satisfied Cox postulate so you haven't proved that a single viral disease causes. A single virus causes a disease and so his solution was not to say maybe US virologist need to go have a come to Jesus moment and see whether we've actually got anything here for. We're totally down on the wrong track. What he said was we need to water? the standards for determining determining causality down to the point where we can meet them well and Cox postulates as I understand them. Where you can isolate the microbe from the diseased host then inject those into a healthy host and find the same disease and then maybe even do that one more time just to make sure that it's the disease. That's that the microbes causing the disease. So you fell into the trap there because I use the word isolation okay so you would think that isolation and purification mean the same thing the word isolate in Latin Italian means island. It means something separate from anything else. So a normal person would think that isolation means you've separated the virus from everything else. That's not how biologists use it virologists. Us isolation to mean that we found a nonspecific signal or sign that could be interpreted as the presence of a virus so for example with the current virus they add impure materials say a nasal swab to a cell culture. And some of the cells die and that's `isolation if the virus they haven't seen the virus they have no information about the virus they've seen some cells die and they call it isolation with HIV. There's a certain protein called P twenty four if they see that that's `isolation HIV also in a is believed to use the enzyme reverse transcriptase and if they see evidence they can't see the enzyme directly but if these the evidence that the enzyme active then they say that's `isolation despite the fact that they know that reverse transcriptase is founded normal cells. It's not specific to any virus let alone HIV and AIDS specifically. Has there been any case where they've even by their own definition isolated that the causal microbe or whatever and created it into a new host. So so what they used to do is they would They would add impure material say so blood serum or something like that to a cell culture and then they'd let the cell culture kind of Stu so you take some cancerous cells and you add a bunch of stimulating biological components some chemicals as well as your sample from somebody you think has aids and you let get a stupor while then you take the liquid off the cell culture and you say okay. This liquid is what's going to contain the viruses then you spin or centrifuge this material at high speeds and you say to yourself that a certain density so when you spin at high speeds everything spreads out according to the density of the object and so they say viruses have this particular density. So we'll pull off the stuff at that part of the gradient so they did this for a long time and they said this is pure virus. He wasn't until nineteen ninety. Seven so okay. Hov was supposedly discovered in nineteen eighty one. So we're talking sixteen years later. They finally put this material under an electron microscope and they discovered it was at least ninety percent impurities and maybe one hundred percent You can't look at an electron microscope picture and know that you're looking virus. Because there are things called micro vesicles that look exactly like viruses but which are produced by your own body and they may be produced because of disease processes or as some kind of messenger between different parts of your body. The function is really fully understood. But it is known that you can have X. oems and micro vesicles without any virus infection. So they're looking at this and going. Well this is least ninety percent impurities and there were two papers by by different groups of scientists came to the same conclusion so then they started calling it concentrated virus but I mean how concentrated is virus when the maximum concentration is this ten percent. And there's really no proof that any of the material is viral. You know. I read a book by Nancy. Turner Banks. I think it was called something like exploding the Aids Cancer Paradigm and. I thought did a great job I mean. I can't summarize it but I I thought she did a great job of explaining that those particles that they find were by products of the fact that age which is a syndrome that results from kind of abusive or environmental factors can result in those things your cells exploding and leaving fragments of that stuff everywhere and it was it's misidentified or MIS interpreted deliberately. Perhaps one of the things I liked about Nancy. Turner banks was a Harvard educated. Md and Early in her career she worked with transplant patients and they need to be immune suppressed so this drug company call now called GlaxoSmithKline. I don't know exactly what the name was back then. Had this drug a which interfered with DNA synthesis which means it stops cells from dividing. And of course your immune system cells. Divide all the time so this suppresses the immune system but it's also extremely toxic so this this company used this drug and then Glaxo Smith Kline took a very very similar drug called act and then they gave it to people who are immune suppressed so they knew that these key. This class of drugs was immune suppressive and I remember one of my first memories of the AIDS era was listening to a science show before I knew anything about this in this guy. They're interviewing says it's remarkable that the first drug we have for this immunosuppressive condition of AIDS is actually immune suppressive and my thought at that time. Being a Science Grad thinking science was wonderful and stuff was sciences. Amazing they can do all these counter intuitive things later I learned that giving an immunosuppressive drug to people with immunosuppression is like the most insane thing that you could possibly do. I remember when my brother my brother just wanted a clean bill of health he was an IV drug user and he wanted to quit drugs and he went to the doctor to kind of get like. Okay you don't have AIDS. But he had had like hepatitis. Curricula things that you get from kind of being junkie living on the streets of New York and they gave him. They did not clean bill of health. He tested supposedly positive for AIDS. Which I understand is like highly comments have a false positive especially if you have appetite drug users. Yeah so he had no symptoms at all. I was totally healthy. And I don't at some point. They started giving him the easy T- and they were constantly monitoring his T. cells which then began to plummet and they every time he had lower T. cell count. They would give him more of this drug. If I recall correctly it was a long time ago. Obviously because I don't think they they've done. Insanity is is Repeating the same thing and expecting a different. He knew he knew he said I'm not sick. That drug is making me sick and he stopped taking it but it was too late like I was just too late. It destroys your body. They were giving extremely high doses. Like I think the original doses were fifteen hundred milligrams a day now if there is. Azt at all. It's like down to two hundred milligrams and they've generally substituted other drugs in the same class. That don't have all the toxicity city of of. Act owns harsh. When I hear people say that they died of AIDS like Roy Cohn and others like that. I always always always investigate. Were they given as e t and have yet to find a single example where they were not Keith haring I did an interview I remember yes so he was an artist who died in tonight to supposedly of AIDS and I did an interview with the guy in New York City who was around at that time and he knew all these people including Keith haring any. He's he said Keith. Haring at a lot of problems with personal care. He wasn't looking after himself and things like that. He was diagnosed HIV positive and he managed to get himself on this. This new drug which was either. Ddr D. C. Which was like the second drug in the class? And he was dead within two or three weeks of starting this drug. I think it's possible that. Da Actually Worse Than Easy. T- following that by the nineteen a by one thousand nine hundred sixty started substituting protease inhibitors which are not as toxic. They're still toxic as toxic and the death rate started to go down because people were taking less toxic drugs not because the drugs were helping them. There's a lot of what I discovered only recently called for genetic disease very common and its worst. Its always the worst when the medicine has a kind of the same side effects. The side effects of the medicine are similar to or become a part of the symptoms of the disease. At least as far as a scientist go and that is what I was wondering and then they give more and more just like that. Act Cycle where as you exhibit more and more of these either symptoms or side effects. You get more of the drug and of course you go into this downward spiral can I read from the act product monograph titled the Retroviral Product Monograph Retrovir as it a thigh Medine and act or the same drug from Glaxosmithkline in two thousand and one. It was often difficult to distinguish adverse events possibly associated with administration of Retrovir. Azt from underlying science of HIV. Disease or illnesses. So they're admitting the label did this drug can cause AIDS and they're saying go Laima Syndrome AIDS just essential as I don't think we're allowed to so we can't really get to the bottom of. I mean. They told you that it could do. So if you take this drug and you get worse. It's like you read the fine print while you you signed up for that. Of course nobody reads the fine print and and they know that I mean the fine prints like sixty pages of stuff about clinical trials inside and stuff like that and hardly anybody reads it and of course patients who are desperate are the least likely people doctor should read it but they don't. I've been wondering about this with respect. Takeover Nineteen Brinkley. Here has had a lot of personal experience with Someone who loves on on ventilator his MOM and he cautioned us right away like you know. Peeing on events later is serious business and I've been wondering if putting people on ventilators can actually exacerbate respiratory problems and result in all these tickets. Well I'm glad you asked me because I've done a lot of research in this area and and you know I obviously my blog Raphia. I'm not a doctor. I think I'm pretty good at doing research. And I have a good network of people I can call on so I was. I've talked to an ER DOC in New York City at. I've also read quite a few documents written by other doctors who are experts in the field. We're cautioning about this. So one of the problems with one of the syndromes caused by ventilation known as ventilator Associated Lung Injury Valley and it's very difficult to distinguish this from the actual progression of the disease. So if you put somebody on a ventilator and you get worse you say my God. This corona virus is such a terribly horrible virus but it might actually be the ventilator and other diseases called ventilator associated pneumonia so the ventilator introduce bacteria into your lungs so you're dealing with pneumonia or other lung problems. Some people say it's not pneumonia but now you're introducing bacteria or other things that get down the tubes so those can cause problems another thing which might be the most horrible thing although I guess dying the most horrible thing of all is they've interviewed people who came off into leaders afterwards and they tell about going into this dream state and let me explain a little bit in order to intubate you. They have to paralyze you. They have to sedate. You paralyze you because if I try to stick a tube down your phone right you're going to fight me with everything you've got right you. I remember you know if I go to the dentist and the dentist starts poking around the back of my mouth. I immediately start to feel like I'm choking. I HAVE. I guess maybe stronger gag reflex than most people but nobody wants to duck down their throat so they have to paralyze the people in order to do this and then they have to keep them sedated so these people described this nightmare quasi dream state where they have these horrible dreams. These fearful dreams the entire time there on the ventilator and of course they're sedated and they can't move and the nursing staff have no idea that that it's kind of like you know the Lockton Syndrome or somebody's paralyzed but their brain is is completely active. But they can't talk can't even blink their islets and nobody outside has any way of knowing that you have a perfectly brain. That actually sounds like some of the things you've describing your mother. Is that not true? Yeah there's delirium that occurs when people are on ventilators for too long they have these almost hallucinations dream states. I don't know the difference between Waking Sleeping. And even after the fact that people who are in issues for even a short period of time and definitely for a long period of time they have the equivalent the equivalent of PTSD from the experiences being in there and the communication is very hard to communicate with people on a ventilator because the ease right if there's somebody there and if it's just the nurses and the staff us you see somebody on Tube and you. They're usually asleep because they're in this state and they don't realize that the person can actually here and so the sounds and the bells coming through. There's always things if you're in ICU. There's dings and bells the entire nights almost possible to get a night's sleep. You hear people screaming. There's one point in time where I was sitting in a waiting room waiting for coffee and for. I'm not exaggerating. Five straight minutes. Somebody was screaming bloody murder at the top of their lungs and everybody in that little snack area was just kinda like paralyzed wanting to help but not knowing what anybody could do. All the nurses were trying to help. It is a very very taxing trying and scary place to be in the ICU. And has a significant effect on your morale and physically has a major affect on you. And here's if if what I've told you isn't bad enough Brad. You you're echoing some of the things I've said the. Why are they putting so many patients on ventilators? Everybody thinks it's because corona virus covert nineteen. Is this terrible disease. That destroys your lungs right away and they need to do this. No that's not true. The advice I now have written proof of this document from the United Kingdom and a document from New Zealand. Australia Group is advocating immediate intimation. They did this with SARS. And the reason is because they're afraid of aerosolize ation if the virus and they're afraid that the staff will get infected a really good paper from Hong Kong. I think it was published around two thousand five after SARS. They did a lot of investigations. What went wrong with ours. They looked at one hospital where they resisted integration. They only intimated people when when they got really bad which didn't turn out to be that often but in the thirteen other hospitals they intimated people immediately every SARS patient intimated and it was specifically for fear of infection. The death rate in the one didn't debate was four times lower than in the thirteen hospitals that immediately anticipated so they looked at it and he said well. Maybe this one hospital didn't have you know that bad patients that the ones in the other thirteen were sicker. And that's part of the reason. Why the higher death rate? Well actually that one hospital had the sickest patients and despite that they had a four times lower death rate and that hospital had no transmissions of SARS to any healthcare worker. So the fear was misplaced. But what it caused was intimation of a large number of people that was unnecessary which caused a higher death rate. And and you know this as you described. Ptsd that can occur after you if you do survive and come off the ventilator so they're not doing this because Gerona viruses such bad disease. They're doing it because bureaucrats at the top or telling them we're losing too many staff becoming novas positive. We can't afford to do this anymore. So you need to intubate people to protect the staff. But if you're doing something that's not in the interests of the patient that's not medicine you know. I have read. I have read more than one. Report of changing protocols and I wondered like how they deal with people coming in as far as ventilating and treatment and all that kind of stuff and I wondered without explanation like I didn't understand the explanation and panic or what. I don't find that they're giving you a lot of really valid verifiable facts about what the impact of that stuff is. You're getting these reports. That deaths are going up and all this kind of stuff. And it's very hard to kind of verify the quiz Asian there and if the actual response is the thing that's creating the problem well reporting it in. The News is reporting as we need more ventilators anymore ventilators. We need so many more ventilators that it's almost like it's desirable to be on a ventilator. I need to if I'm going go. I need to be on a ventilator. It's kind of putting that attitude out there which a ventilator can be a life saving mechanism but only if it's absolutely necessary because it is very risky but they're it as though everybody needs and wants ventilator they're making all these ventilators it's GonNa make it more likely that they're going to use these ventilators in cases where maybe they don't need if you if you if you give the military one hundred growns they'll use one hundred if you give a thousand drones. They'll find more places to bomb right gets it gets used. I heard Andrew Cuomo saying some incredible number that New York needed thousands of ventilators and every other state if of similar size in America needed the same. This is this is just crazy. The problem is that people are using the ventilators when they don't need to and ventilators become kind of a talisman right. It's a symbol that if we buy ventilators we care. And if we don't buy ventilators we're heartless people who are trying to save money on the backs of people dying of the coronal buyers class. Just do something. Don't wait for. Avi Results don't wait. Precautionary principle like. Don't find out what's needed. Don't find out what the problem is. Just do something. It's like a political philosophy. Well it's like the use of drugs. I mean I read an article in Jama which said the obvious. There is no drug approved for Corona virus. There's no drug for which there is evidence of safety. There's no drug for evidence of effectiveness. Now that was before the research on hydroxy chloroquine which. I'm a little bit. Skeptical of the. There was nothing at that time but they were giving people in China. They were giving antivirals to people. They're giving high dose corticosteroids which was a problem during SARS suppresses. It not wouldn't that possibly lower your ability to fight stuck for. Yeah it can. It can definitely cause problems in following SARS. People who had a lot of steroids had a sometimes permanent neurological deficit and often required hip replacements. Because corticosteroids damage your bones. They can cause osteoporosis. Which is the you know the meltdown of your joints. So that's a problem in the first two thousand and three deaths in Italy. There's this now famous Report from the sort of Italy's top Medical Research Institute they gave Antiviral drugs to fifty two percent of people who were an average age of eighty fifty percent. Almost fifty percent had three more coexisting conditions like diabetes. Heart Disease Liver Disease Kidney Disease etc etc and only three out of the two thousand and three had no pre existing conditions twenty seven percent of people were giving corticosteroids and they did not provide any information on intimidation but the suspicion is that they were intimating. A lot of these elderly people and I think that was probably responsible for a lot of the debts and and these people probably were going to die within the next couple of years. I mean if you've got a kidney failure got diabetes and you've got heart problems and you're nine years old like one would predict that within the next couple of years you're going to die but I think what they did is. They hurried these people up. They might have lived in other six months. They might have lived another year. But you've given these drugs put him on a ventilator and their garden days. I've heard anecdotally couple people friends. I have in Europe. Who and I do not know a single person personally who is super sack or thinks they have covert nineteen. I don't know anyone so I can't verify if somebody's being hysterical or its power of suggestion or what but I do know a couple of people who say they know people who are super sick in hospital or whatever and that. It's like this thing's really bad. It's not like your normal this or that. You have an opinion if there is maybe something going or do you. I guess well there. Are there viruses that that are solely responsible for stuff like this well? I don't believe that I mean the first thing I did was to look at if the one of the first papers it it found some irony claimed that it looked like a corona virus are Rene so there must be to corona virus. But I don't think they've ever actually purified a corona virus so I think they're misinterpreting. Ra might be produced by your body in response to Respiratory disease they're misinterpreting it as a virus. I think it's really important. A lot of people don't know much about Ra everybody knows about DNA chromosomes. Arnie is equally important and chemically almost identical to DNA. There's there's one of the four beats on the chain is different Medine to Urasoe. Arnie generally is a single chain. Whereas Dina's usually in a in a double helix Arna is used. There's messenger a. It's used to send messages around the cells. It's used to produce proteins. It has many many uses usages. But it's kind of more of a temporary thing so you transcribe Arnie from the DNA. It's kind of like a copy of the and then it goes off and it does something it sends a message. It produces some proteins and then it gets dissolved back in and gets reused the parts get a reused so they are in a in which is in every cell every living cell of your body. The aren't able change from time to time like your DNA which stays constant and so the fact that sick people have different. Ernie than healthy people. You could probably find similar things with somebody who goes out and runs a marathon or or goes to the gym and does waits for two hours. You'd you'd probably find different Arnie. After those things then before because your body saying okay. We need more muscle fibers or or whatever we need to do. Various things to get your body back to equilibrium and if your lungs are complaining that there's a problem your body is probably generating Ernie to try to get other parts of your body to produce chemicals or enzymes or whatever to try to resolve the problem. Do you think that right in the here and now this week this month that there is a a what is it that you think will cause something that people call the flu or the cold and Y you know. Is it possible that it's happening more right at this moment for some reason? It's this really just somebody somebody showed me a grant from the CDC which is a real time graph of of pneumonia. I guess it's just pneumonia over the past five years. They have a curve for each year this year. The number of pneumonia deaths has dropped dramatically. I think they're reclassifying. Pneumonias AS CORONA virus. But another thing they're doing in England. They have very very specific government advice. That's on posters. That's on websites everywhere you go and it basically says if you're sick go home and self isolate so imagine that you're you know you're twenty five year old. And you get the sniffles and you got a bit of a fever. So it's like okay. I want to be a good citizen so I go home and I self isolate. It says do not come to the emergency room. Do not see your doctor. So normally you get the sniffles you stay at home and things get better. But in percentage of cases it doesn't get better because it's kind of progressed to pneumonia. That happens to even fairly young people and normally you know once three or four days goes by and you realize that this flu you have is getting worse. You're probably going to emergency. But now you've got this advice. Don't go to emergency so you wait a few more days until you can barely breathe and then you go to emergency. And then they say. Oh you're a coronavirus case and you're really bad so I think this this government advice is unwittingly causing people to show up at emergency. When they're in much worse shape. I can personally attest to a little piece of a fact that I think supports that theory in that. I know somebody who is a physician's assistant at urgent care in northern California and he had two jobs like part time jobs at these two different urgent cares and one of them is basically shutting down laid him off because they just aren't getting the business they used to get and I think it's because people I wouldn't go to emergency room only because I wouldn't want them to prematurely classify me as having something that they're they want to I kind of basically arrest me for. I got an email from rather upset. Nurse who did just been consoling a new widow. And why was she a new widow well because several days before her husband had been having chest pains and he refused to go to the emergency room because he was afraid of getting infected with the crow virus so he stayed at home and then he had a massive heart attack and died and so by the time they got him to the emergency room. It was too late and the nurse was saying this is ridiculous like he should've come when he started getting chest pains. I guess he'd had a history of heart problems and we probably could have saved him. This pregnant woman with two kids at home is now a widow. Because of this and I think there's just going to be so much fallout from this. I mean elderly people who are now completely alone twenty four hours a day depressed people who are who whatever stimulation they had in their life is gone. People have tendency towards drinking. I mean they're sitting at home so maybe they would use to Sinoe or something like that and maybe they they drink but they'd also be with other people and talking and doing other things now. They're sitting by themselves. And what are they do? They just stress of financial ruin right and domestic violence right. Like you're forced to be at home. And maybe you and your partner. Don't get on that well and now you've got financial stress and you have the stress of being together the whole time and you know it's going to increase the amount of domestic violence and of course drug abuse as well and you know if you if you do have a gambling problem you may go online and gamble so you have so much more time on your hands. Isolating people when people need people around them the most and need people to give them hope and a reason to live in a reason to fight these older. Yeah exactly the other ailments that these older folks have in these nursing homes and I'm guessing I don't have the stats on it but I'm guessing that the mortality rate at a assisted living commuter. Your nursing home is already high to begin with so they're talking about. We're tally rates. But when you take away the ability for them to see their families and to see the reason that they are still fighting to live. That makes it demoralized. Them and to your point about people saying it home and domestic violence increasing. I read a story earlier today about a murder. Suicide that occurred because a couple a man believed that he had contracted corona virus and had given it to his wife so he killed her and then killed himself. This is GonNa be so many of these stories. I heard another story from Canada where you know women was at home with an a partner. Who been kind of abusive? She had nowhere else to go and he ended up killing her There's just there's no safety fouls right like maybe she got out of the House to work or something like that every day but now it's twenty four hours and he sits there drinking getting upset and you know she does something to trigger him and all of a sudden he's he's he's kilter would have happened if it hadn't been for the corona virus but nobody thought about this when they said we can all stay at home and we'll play board games with our kids and watch movies and life's going to be wonderful but for a lot of people it's it's not that way by myself prison for people out of prison who not everybody. They're letting out is just a minor drug offence. That's kind of how they present it but they're letting a lot of people out there letting some people out who have a history of sexual crimes letting people out particularly domestic violence offenders. So they're putting their setting up situations that is going to cause bad outcomes beginning if they do continue to enact these policies that create a more deaths or fewer. Like kind of getting ahead of it. Coming to the emergency room and they will prolong the situation which is having real damage. Yeah and I want to go back to hospital patients like it's knowing that hospital patients that get visitors do better. It's known that being intimated as traumatic there was a study sons of studies that prove having people there to help you. Psychologically is almost as important as all of the other stuff but none of the hospitals focus on it and all of that and not only that. So you don't have your daughter or son there to hold your hand and tell you everything's GonNa be okay and the nurses they can't hold your hand. 'cause they're wearing plastic gloves and they've got masks on so you know it's not the same right even if they hold your hand it's a robot holding your hand and you can't see their face. So how comforting is it to see somebody staring at you? As if you're this massive wad of infection and in China actually is a robot holding your hand because they have the robot league jobs. Well at least somebody's holding your hand. I think here these people are just become objects on an intimate their intimated. They're not really moving. They're not really interacting. And so you kind of assume that they're just passive objects until they get taken off the ventilator they're not thinking human beings but they are and they might be going through incredible trauma and nobody's nobody's helping them speaking of China that I wanted to get your opinion on this one thing that's creating I think a whole nother set of problems is talking about China as an enemy. That there's kind of undercurrent that could be an act of war that this was a bio weapon that was released and I I. Actually when people are talking about like the Spanish flu. This could be another Spanish flu. They have Spanish flu somewhere in a lab from the very beginning of this. Probably I may say after you kind of woke me up to thinking this way I. I'm not even convinced that if they wanted to create another Spanish flu epidemic exactly as it rolled out before that they could do it purely by releasing a virus without all the other things like poor nutrition poor sanitation poor medical care generally were poor other environmental factors there was a war on and similarly when they gain of function with viruses and a bio weapon and viral bioweapon. I wonder if that's even possible it's buying into the godlike nature of virologist and. I think it's Bs one thousand nine hundred flew. There's a famous public health official. His name is still spoken in hushed. Tones Joseph Goldberger. I see that he was nominated for the Nobel Prize and he did some good stuff. He apparently realized that Allegra was not an infectious disease which at at his time in the early nineteen hundreds it was believed by many people to be infectious but he did an experiment during the nineteen eighteen flu really disgusting experiment. He took some prisoners from a prison. And I guess he offered them reduced sentences or something like that and he would take nasal swabs from these people dying if the nineteen eighteen flu and he rubbed it inside the nose of the prisoner and he had the these people cough in the faces of the prisoner and he did the most disgusting possible experiments on these prisoners and not a single prisoner. Got Sick really during this is this is this managed also this so would it be your opinion that the Spanish flu pandemic was not. I mean I maybe this is just beaten that horse. And you've made your position very clear but that the Spanish flu he's not a viral phenomenon. I mean there were so many environmental connections. It started on a military base. Why did it start while the military to the based decided they were GonNa burn all their horse manure so they created this? This huge cloud of partially burned horse manure that hung over the military base for days. And you know God knows whether somebody said Look. We got some chemicals to get rid of. You know. We're burning stuff when we just throw those onto right. Another example of of the Spanish flu was the soldiers on troopships going across the Atlantic in World War One at the end of World War One. We're dying like flies but not the sailors but these these soldiers were going across in the winter. They had you know summer they had very. They were very poorly dressed they were mostly mid Westerners. They didn't know what it was like to be on the North Atlantic. The sailors they had you know. Raincoats thick sweaters and they were used to being out in the Atlantic in the winter so they were protected so the sailors were fine. So basically the soldiers were freezing to death You know being probably fed or dressed and so they were dying but it was. It was clearly not acting infectious disease. But probably the best example of how non-infectious some of these things are occurred during the SARS epidemic Where Chinese performed an accidental experiment. That if you'd asked to perform it it would have been the ethical thing possible but they did it without realizing what they were doing. So it happened and we can learn from it so they had this hospital in. Guangzhou the epicenter of the SARS epidemic. And they the AIDS floor was only half occupied so of course. They put SARS patients on the other half the floor. You know deficient people right so you have the most infectious virus known demand on one side of the floor and you have eight immunosuppressed patients on the other side and these were not just HIV positive. These were people suffering from opportunistic infections. So they were showing signs of immunosuppressive suppression not just HIV positive. People who are healthy. The people who wrote the paper said that although the two sides of the floor were separated there was a corridor between them. The staff used and all the windows in the corridor open. So there's free air flow between the two sites at one end of the floor. There was kind of a lounge where the patients could mix freely. There was an AIDS patient who is accidentally roomed with the SARS patients. Because it was supposed to be on one side on the other. Despite all of this there were zero cases of SARS found in the AIDS patients. So like how can this be considered an infectious disease? When you can't infect immunosuppressed people makes no sense this makes me think about how to put it but I remember. I was in class once actually in law school I had nothing to do with medicine or anything and the teacher said Hey. I just heard that chicken pox is contagious up to fourteen days so if everybody just stays home for fourteen days chicken pox will be eradicated and that always stuck with me. I was like that's funny. I wonder if I mean for years. I thought I wonder if everybody stayed in for fourteen days. Like how many things of beer advocated and I kind of want to ask you a little bit about chickenpox but I also wonder like now that they have us completely isolated from one another wouldn't that just eliminate germ theory is correct. Wouldn't it eliminate kind of a lot of this? Is that are supposedly communicable? So I think what happened with The Kobe nineteen is that they have this theory. That if you can catch a new virus early and you can surrounded you know. Everybody stands there with their antivirus guns and they all fire at the same time. You can destroy every last virus particle and it's over but if it's not a viral disease if you just think it's viral diseases obviously not going to work. And so what they've done is for the first time they have put this draconian measures into action. And what they are. Discovering is that don't work and I think one of the reasons is even if the virus exists and even if the test for the virus can sometimes detect the virus. There has to be a problem with false positives. So let's say that one percent of the of the population will register false positive on the corona virus test That means that if you did eliminate the virus you would never know because you would keep getting people testing positive so you can't actually eliminate the virus in your mind because you're still going to be getting people testing positive. And they're going to find this. They keep saying we need more testing if you do more testing you're going to get more cases and you're GONNA get a minimum of one percent of the People. You test positive. I mean in. Us for some reason it's closer to ten percent. So what did you want to do? You want to an epidemic of million cases. Well just just doing well but what about the a reality so for you personally? If you looked out on the world what would you expect to see two months from now? Would you expect in your lifetime or next year? Whatever for you actually witnessed fewer people getting sick or is it simply that these kind of things that we think of a seasonal flu seasonal colds are are really almost totally environmental and see. Because I'm thinking this should disprove not bacterial but like viral theory of disease one hundred percent because we should be they should all die this way regardless of the test dish should be able to. They should have enough to cut it off in China if it was if it was purely viral if there was one hundred accurate test. Yeah but I mean even even if it's viral they have this belief they have is kind of crazy because if you have a significant number of as symptomatic cases. Maybe I'll take that back. I'm not sure it would have been possible if it was viral. If you have a significant number of cases if say it started in Wuhan and you know you had one hundred really sick people that might mean. There's ten thousand asymmetric cases and if the symptomatic cases are infectious than you know. Of course it's GonNa rip around Wuhan and then people were. Acm TO MATT GET on airplanes and they go around the world so it if if it was viral and there were a symptomatic cases it would be impossible to stop it. Because they're not you can't test everybody and the last people you're going to test are a symptomatic but there's lots of examples that say that the test his bringing up results that don't appear to be an infectious disease. You know like the first cases in Italy had no connection with any foreign case and then they found some guy in some southern part of Italy. Clunkers from anybody else miles from anybody else. One hundred miles from any other case and a. He tested positive. Why did he tests positive? He hasn't traveled. He tested positive because the test is not for a virus test might be registering aren. A that indicates you have A respiratory problem which they already knew because he went to the hospital as he had a respiratory problem. So I think this is. What's happening. That Italians foolishly said if you have a respiratory problem come to the hospital get tested even if is sometimes it tests were virus. If there's false positives they're more likely to occur in people with respiratory disease and so this guy was probably a false positive probably the first thirty cases in northern Italy were false positives but once you start finding these cases and then you start testing. Everybody shows up at the hospital with respiratory disease. You start getting thousands of cases and one thing that you don't see on these graphs of cases is a graph or not very often is a graph of the number of tests. But if you look at the number of tests and the number of cases they're parallel graphs so very very simple ways people they think have it. Well they might be bored. I'm saying is. The percentage of people who test positive is relatively constant in the United States being around ten percent since the beginning in Korea. It was around three percent in Canada around one percent and those differences are probably has something to do with the type of machinery. They're using their protocols for testing how they collect samples. That says what I'm saying is in the beginning here. They were saying. Don't waste tests on anybody. You're not pretty sure. Has it so that should have had a much higher positive results? Then now they're saying test everyone and what it looks like is happening is back then. It looked like we had fewer cases and now it looks like we have a lot more cases and it seems to be highly correlated with what you're saying. I think is yeah right. The I looked at the data from one of the hardest parts of California's Santa Clara and they had a graph of the age range of the cases and the majority of the cases. Were BETWEEN THIRTY. And Sixty okay. The people who were testing positive but the majority of the deaths were between seventy and ninety. So there's there's a lot of people a lot of young people if you if you go around testing healthy young people you will find a lot of people testing positive. But they're not dying. They're not getting sick and dying and the people who do like when you read these stories that newspapers love to have a thirty five year old dies of the corona virus. You often find that there's other things going on like I like that. I read some twenty something year old soccer coach in Spain. Well he had kimia like he wasn't something like that. A long time ago Chemo. Ken Can do permanent damage if you had been on events later longtime ago. There's a lot of things that can cause permanent damage that they'll say he was totally healthy but maybe it wasn't big relapse that story. Yeah Yeah we talked about that. That story we've been trying to kind of keep track of the stories where it's like young person dies of Corona Virus. And then you open it up and it's like after being shot in the head test and they're saying they're actually counting all deaths of people they said that if you has positive it doesn't matter what you die of you get classified as Corona Virus Tests. And now they're extending that further to if you're suspected of being around someone that had a corona virus had had the corona virus and you die in your home. It's automatically classified as a crime. My biggest problem is that they're changing or one of my promises that they're changing the parameters of diagnosis of counting the deaths and all that and they're not going back and changing the numbers so you cannot see the vector or the trend. Well they're saying that they're under counting them and there's all these false negatives that everyone has is what they're saying now could snag. If if I can quote the Daily Telegraph in England interviewed. Professor Walter Ricciardi Scientific Advisor to at least Minister of Health. So I think he. He has some credibility he said. Italy's death rate may appear higher because of how Dr Record fatalities the way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all people who die in hospitals with de Corona virus with the krona verse are deemed to be dying of the corona virus. He said on reevaluation by their equivalent of the National Institute of Health only twelve percent of deaths certificates have shown a direct causality from corona virus while eighty eight percents of patients have at least one morbidity many had two or three well actually the report that I read from the US is that ninety nine percent had one or more pre existing condition so it might be the only one percent of the people died. And then you have to say like why would there be an increased death rate in people who didn't die of the krona virus. Why are these eighty percent of people dying is it because they're being treated so aggressively antiviral drugs corticosteroids tons antibiotics intimation? Is that the reason why the death rate shot up. I'm under the assumption that I mean when they're changing protocols and changing our behaviors. They statistically you're supposed to at least try to control for those variables and if there are variables that offset each other in that kind of analysis. You should talk about that too but when you're actually changing the protocols were changed Louis. The people are tested changing. Who GETS HELP? Under what circumstances all those things have statistically I they must have statistically significant impact or they were such things wouldn't be recommendations the dial the basic principle experimental science is that you change one variable. I mean scientists go through hoops to try to set up an experiment where you only have one variable. You have the active drug and you have the Placebo. And everything else is the same. They will analyze the socioeconomic characteristics of the people and they will make sure that the ages in the two groups that are randomly selected are reasonably similar in that and that the level of education. You know depending on what they're looking at they will analyze all of these factors about the people and they will make sure that these two randomly selected groups are similar. And why do they do that? They don't want a variable. I mean what if all the university grads were taking the drug and all the people who had gone to university. Were taking a placebo well. Is there something different about those groups? Do University grads have more money? Do they eat better right? That would be that would completely invalidate experiment so they go to great lengths to get it down to only one variable so that they can draw conclusions but here we have supposedly a virus. We have incubation. We have antiviral drugs. We have hydroxy chloroquine. We have rheumatoid arthritis drugs for some reason. we have Corticosteroids. We have probably more aggressive treatment with antibiotics. We have isolation of the patient so that they feel completely alone and he's all monitor their healthcare. See that's the thing is that my father died kind of unattended. He was in the hospital and we just were too naive to realize you're supposed to sit there and he literally died of malpractice like they closed the hospital. They didn't send us any bills like it was terrible but my lesson then was never leave somebody alone in the hospital. Always sit with them and make sure that they're being treated as well as they can. Evaluate IT FOR YOURSELF. That alone to me would spike the death rate. But do you have any opinion? David on why these things are obvious to me as a lay person mean you immerse yourself in the stuff but I just look at it and I think why is that idiot. Not just talking about the stuff. I learned in Fifth Grade Science about hypothesis testing. And all that stuff wires talking about I mean I kind of despair. We're taught through Through schools through television shows and movies that we are supposed to have total faith in this wonderful medical system that we've built but as I learned more about the medical system. There's there's a paper in the Journal. The American Medical Association around the year two thousand that analyzed a hospital deaths in the year nineteen ninety eight and concluded that one hundred six thousand people in America had died from properly prescribed pharmaceuticals. They had died adverse reactions to properly prescribed and then somewhere else times. The amount of car crashes yeah and then right somewhere else. Thirty five thousand had died from improperly prescribed overdose or the wrong drug or the drug was prepared in the wrong way or or is injected instead of being eaten or something like that and then of course this is just hospitals. So you've got over the counter drugs. I don't know if this included mental institutions didn't include prisons The US military gives out drugs so some people have said the American medical system could kill a million people a year which would make the leading cause of death and yet this is the shiny system that we're so proud of. I mean it's true that if you get hit by a bus and you get taken to emergency. There are incredibly skilled surgeons. Who can do their best to put you back together. And that kind of medicine where. There's something physically wrong with you. The medical system does really well. But if you stuff yes. That's what I was thinking too like. They can do that they can. They're good mechanics. Yes but if you go to a doctor and say I'm sad all the time. You're you're going to get real quick. Yes yeah you're going to be on anti tell you go for a walk in the Sun? Heals your put sunscreen on. That's another thing I know this. Maybe sounds Woo. But like this idea of sunscreens and all that Kinda stuff when vitamin D is so correlate. It's a physical and emotional health. I mean people should talk about that a little bit. Yeah I mean if the doctor asks some questions and it's it's like I lost my job. I started drinking. My wife left me. My kids hate me. It's like okay. A pill is not going to undo all of those things and I think there's a lot of things in our life and then of course you pointed out a nutrition and just being outside so that you can get the vitamin D and just being you know they say sleeping at night is very important being awake during the day and being in the sun like little things like that which no doctors are not actually taught any of that. They're not you can talk to them and they will say honestly like I am not really qualified to speak on that because we didn't learn nutrition in screen and what is the. What is it GonNa do to so many people who are so traumatized they won't go outside unless it's absolutely necessary and so they're not gonna get the fresh air and the Vitamin D. That they would normally get. They might go for a run and a couple of times a week or something like that. Even if they're not like super athletic they probably get out a couple times a week for a little bit of exercise and probably don't realize that at the same time they're breathing in fresh air breathing out all the dust and stuff they accumulate at home. I'm telling you just running into the store running. I run around like crazy. I'm a mom of teenagers. They're all doing sports. I'm like sitting there at the soccer thing waiting for my kid running after the other ones Blah Blah Blah ma I have become so much more sedentary even though I still have these kids to take care of but David I have always wanted to ask you this question. That is relevant to your stuff but it's off the covet question and I. This is the one thing that I just cannot intuit an answer to. Can I ask you something a little bit off of the? You're okay so I am. Basically convinced like about colds and flu and stuff. It seems to me. I don't know I just. I'm not convinced that the viral theory of that stuff is as we're told it as when I look at anything called herpes chicken pox. Cold Sore Shingles. It looks to me. They manifest themselves. My kids were vaccinated although I kind of regret that but I have a friend whose kids weren't her kids got chicken pox. My kids didn't I if I get a cold sore I get I take brand name Val Acyclovir and it works my kids. Don't get cold sores. My husband doesn't get it so I don't know if it's contagious. But I mean you can see it and it seems communicable. I just can't get my mind around the herpes thing. I haven't studied herpes so I really can't a you know whether the virus exists but I do think that one thing we need to keep in mind is that we not only can exchange pathogens but we also share a lot of environmental factors. Like if you live in a family then you eat pretty much the same food. You're breathing the same air in the house which you know may have a variety of different qualities. Do you have the windows? Open all the time or are there some issues with chemicals seeping out of the water the water water so you share a lot of environmental factors so the fact that sometimes people come down with the same disease at about the same time isn't proof that that infectious but that's how we interpret it. That's how we are programmed. That is how I kind of get past the flu and stuff like that. I mean my my son who has terrible. Eating habits is the one who gets sick. And I'm like so. We all have great habits. I never get sick. But we're all exposed to the same thing. Maybe it's immune the the thing about like cold sores and herpes stuff like that like it does come out during times of stress. The theory is that it exists in your body arrests like in your spinal column or something and when you get stressed out at manifest itself but I could easily be convinced that it is a failure of your body to kind of be healthy because the stress has taken away like the normal healthy functioning convinced about it but I just wondered if you have an opinion on it because that's the one that just looks different from. Yeah I don't really have an opinion. I can only look at. I've kind of looked at some of the big viral diseases and I've drawn conclusions from that and I'm going to remain neutral on the ones that I respect that I have noticed that about us. That you absolutely you do your homework and you talk about the things that you know about and I wonder if you if you have any opinion about Well this is just a thought I had was that it looks to me and I've gotten a lot of people. Send me pictures of this. That five G. is rolling out while we're all at home. I was GONNA ask that. No no I want to answer it. I'm a telecom consultant. Yeah I have no consulting arrangements with companies that produce five G. I did have the expert witness contract. Alway that was almost ten years ago and this was way before four G. Well it was around the time for. Ge came out and his way before. Five but I think that in Wuhan people are using five G. to explain something that might not need to be explained. I have not yet seen proof that there was a surge in deaths so people are saying five. G. Proves that the deaths were caused by five G. and I'm saying well I'm skeptical that there was an increase in death rates. It's a it's a city of eleven million people in this whole thing started with seven people in quarantine at a hospital. Well that could have been a case of food poisoning or on the five G. thing on the bioweapon thing. Another thing I'd like to say is Somebody latched onto the fact. That sixty gigahertz is absorbed my oxygen and apparently the way it's absorbs. Change the spin of the oxygen. But this is. This is a numerically illiterate theory. Let me explain so wireless systems transmitted extremely low powers they do transmit in the microwave range A microwave oven. The power is between I think six hundred and twelve hundred watts a a cell phone Max out. At one watt and a study. I just saw recently showed that the average power of a cell phone was one to two percent of the maximum power so normally. It's transmitting point one watts. So what would happen is the sixty gigahertz signal would interact with the oxygen and it would energize some of the oxygen atoms and then within a very short time the oxygen atoms would return to the normal state and would release that energy as heat. So you can imagine a say. A one watt heating element. One hundred meters away from you. How much difference would that make in ambient temperature around you? Essentially none and the time. Yeah so by the time the oxygen gets to your lungs it has reverted to the the normal state now if you were in an extremely high. Rf Environment where? Maybe you had thousand watt transmitters and you're working in a you know some kind of satellite system then you would need to take these things into account because it all comes down to the energy like a six hundred watt or twelve hundred watt microwave oven if you could put your arm inside and luckily that's not very easy. You would really hurt yourself. Yeah just just as for example I an analogy I use is like you're a cook in in a restaurant. You Work Twelve hour days and there's an oven. That's on three hundred and fifty Fahrenheit all the time and you work beside it and obviously you're getting heat from the oven and over say ten years you get way more than enough to cook you. But it doesn't Cook you because your body can deal with low quantities of energy but if you were shoved inside the oven at three fifty then obviously die pretty quickly and this is the same kind of thing that you have this really low energy. That's in the environment from four G. or five year three G. And the only thing I can think of is that there could be if you were very close to a transmitter. For Very Long Time there could be some issues with resonance so in other words. If if you were nearer five G. Transmitter and the frequency resonated with certain things in your body that could cause some problems but the amount of energy is so low that it's really hard to see how this be a turn your phone off when you go to sleep at night for that for safety reasons. That was going around for a while. You're making me feel a lot better because I stress out okay. So what are the Your phone doesn't transmit unless needs to like what will happen during the night if your phone's on is like every few minutes. It will blur pout. For a fraction of a second. Maybe it will check for emails or something like that. But it's basically off most of the time now. I put my phone on the floor beside the bed and I do that because it's not good and I turn off the Ringer. Because it's not psychologically good to see that your phone lights up or something like that because then you don't sleep properly right like I agree. Yeah and if you WANNA completely turned the phone off that's fine but the amount of energy producing verses when you get up in the morning and you you surf the web. The News you you maybe make a video call. You do all this stuff well. Now it's transmitting a lot more right and you're still not afraid of that. No because you can't and the reason why cell phones use such low rates of energy has well first of all if you if you weren't careful with energy like in terms of how strong signal is your battery would be even worse than it is now and everybody complains because they're battery doesn't last through the day right but the reason why cellphone companies are so careful about reducing the energy to the lowest possible level is not because they're worried about using too much energy. The COST OF ELECTRICITY IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. Cost cellphone companies but because the interference between signals is due to the strength of the signal. So the way you can get more people on the system and make more money is by keeping everybody's signal at the lowest possible level and so as you move towards or away from the cell site from the tower your power will this system will tell you raise your power little bit reduce it a little bit and they try to keep it at a level where any lower in your called would become gibberish. Right they try to keep it at just above that level and that way they can get more people on the system and make more money is the motivation. You're making me less afraid of. I was not afraid when I first heard you a couple of years ago. I did like I really changed my thinking about about illness and at actually did the positive was that I started thinking about health in a more preventive way thinking about like getting better nutrition and that kind of stuff which seems to me a very regardless of what you think about infectious diseases. It seems like a great approach to overall health and keeping from getting ill that no-one should that should be promoted far and wide. Regardless of your theories. I mean cell. Phones do result in in debts. People walk across the street looking at their cell phone without looking. I mean it's not your problem right. I mean that doesn't mean it's right. It doesn't mean that pedestrians are fair game. If they're looking their cell phone but I mean if you walk across the street paying attention and driver who's maybe also on the cellphone is likely to kill you so cell phones also cause traffic accidents right. People are checking text messages and they have to ask destroys people like if you get addicted to your cell phone it destroys your ability to interact with people and I know I've been a little bit guilty of that and I. I'm trying I'm out for dinner. It's like put that cell phone away. I have this tendency to to go. Somebody says something like fifty. Five million people died in the nineteen leader. My pocket right away right so I try to keep that down to a minimum because it's the psychological impact but I think there's probably other ways were cell phones. Can you know caused people to die But it's not I don't think they are F- that's doing that. Although as I say it's all to do with energy so if you work in a in a base area with lots of radio transmitters the amount of energy you're getting is much much higher than your walking down the street. Talking on your. I have seen people who install that stuff having us. I was surprised to find this high rates of suicide so I don't know if it has something to do with one of the problems with electricity and cell phones is. There's a lot of correlations like people who work with radio might also be exposed to more chemicals and other things like that. I remember this as a high school student. I studied hydro power lines and I realized at that time that electrical power lines are often sprayed with the worst possible pesticides because otherwise they have to keep coming back to to cut down the trees. Yeah they are allowed to use pesticides that would not normally be used and of course nobody wants to live beside a high tension power line because of the noise that it produces and so it tends to be poorer people who live in areas. Where there's there's lots of power lines coming together. It's an industrial city. Something like that. And so there's correlations between electricity and and exposure to chemicals and and other things and maybe also it's never really dark and that part of the city because there's always lights from the industrial facilities things like that. It's very easy to get We were talking about single variables. It's very easy to get additional variables. Coming in to the equation. I just love the way you think David. I'm so happy I rediscovered you because for a long time I could not remember what your website was so I was like. Who is that guy that questions virology and then lately you've been around so I was able to find out what happened was ten years ago. I decided to write a book called the Infectious Myth in busy with work and family and things like that and so nothing really happened for ten years. Although I had already written a chapter on SARS that was like ninety percent complete and also I think polio West Nile but then when this corona virus thing came up I thought I have to get my chapter on SARS out there and so I put it out as a free download because I felt like we're going through basically a repeat. It's just this repeat is like ten times the volume of the first one and then. I started study. The specific covert nineteen stuff and have written a twenty page. Doctor is just reading that it's really good. It starts exactly with what Brinkley was like. Why don't they talk about all the false positives so we're going to have to make a study of that but we're can you tell my listeners? Like how they can kind of. Keep in touch with what you're doing. Listen to your podcast and stuff like the Infectious Smith DOT COM and. It's a very simple website but everything is there and I'm keeping it updated. So it's it's kind of the hub. I WanNa have a better website. You know more of a Word. Presi thing with the blog and people can interact more but people can always send me an email and trust me. A lot of people are watch out for wordpress. We got taken down from wordpress through. We were basically entrapped in trapped and they So they don't like what you're saying. They will take you down without nation. Yeah Oh you on. Wordpress DOT COM or were you. Did you have your own server on wordpress Dot Com? So I have my has us on classic press on a different server and we're fine. I just had adapted to that and I put all my stuff on it. It was really well of course you. You're better than we are at. That's censorship is definitely an issue like a I have a facebook group called Rethinking AIDS Where People Challenge Idiots Paradigm and we thirteen thousand members in about a year ago. Facebook took us down and and they. They gave us one of these. These choices like I what you call this where you know choose door a or B but if you choose the wrong door we're GONNA shoot. You thought about what they said was. We've determined that your mission statement or one of the posts or one of your photos or something on your website. Violates one of our thirty five community rules so it's like okay? Which community rule does it violate? We don't know. Is it a post. Is it our mission statement? Is it an image that somebody put up? We have no idea so I kinda sat around and they said if you believe. This is unfair. You can challenge this. You will only have one chance to challenge it and if you lose your challenge we believe the entire site right. That is what happens. Wordpress CI- yeah. I insisted that they give me an answer. And they just bleeped me out of existence overnight. What are you saying fell if you throw a challenge flag if you don't agree with the call and you want to challenge it you can throw a challenge flag but if you lose the challenge you lose a time out. Oh okay. It's it's the same kind of thing doesn't have that problem like football. Does to deter you. But they should tell you. Obviously they came to that conclusion. Why isn't it when they identified the offending object and the rule had violated that those were real things they had in their grasp they could have put them together and given them to you why they basically they basically had our group on ice and so I thought well okay if we continue the way it is. We can't add new members. The current members unless they're moderators can't even see the site so the site is now completely useless so I basically have to answer the challenge so I went on and I went through a bunch of post than anything that seemed kind of controversial. It was near the top. I deleted it deleted. Maybe half a dozen posts that you know maybe somebody used the f word or something like that stuff like that and I pressed the Button. And then he said give us a review and then two days later. The site was back but grizzly relief. But I mean the alternative was being the site would have permanently disappeared with thirteen thousand people and I had no way to get. The name of those is really crazy. Fat Is what will you should definitely have those people I well. I mean it might not hurt. It's have a repository of like an email blast. We have an emergency email list. So that if it ever happened to us and we can just kind of blaspheming. But you'll never get that kind of you can't get people's emails address is through facebook like all we had was people's names and most of these people are people you don't know there's a lot of people from South Africa. And how are we going to find these people in the future? If if we get cut off so I mean it worked out okay for us but I was. I was extremely nervous when I finally pressed the button and said okay. Do it a lot of validation with your aides work because people who have known victims of AIDS and the and the AIDS Medical Establishment. Like me know that there were that. I mean in my case. There's no doubt my mind and my mother who has nothing to do with any kind of like deep thought or any of that completely agrees with me that my brother never had any wasn't sick at all and that it was the medicine. Kelt him so people just know from their own experience that you're right about that. Well I just love it. I love what you're doing and thinking out of the box and I love you are scrupulousness and your your attachment to science and facts in this world that they want us to worship science and you're actually helping them to their own standards and I'm sure they don't like it one of the questions I get asked at times is like you don't have a PhD or amd. So why should we listen to you? So my response to that is if I had a PhD or an MD. Would you believe what's in my article without thinking about it without validating it because if that's the case then it's you who has the problem so what? I have to do because of my lack of you know superior credentials is. I have to to support every sentence that I I st so if I if I say that. The Group of people in Italy were elderly. I can't just say that I have to give you a linked the report and that's the way it should be done. I mean it's not a burden I have made that exact same argument in that. I used to have a trash real radio show on a radio station in Atlanta right in the heart of the CDC and after eight and a half years of being on the air. When I started talking about event to a one and predicting kind of how this covert thing was going to unfold. They took me off the air but I had noticed in that in that line of work that I didn't believe Fox. I didn't believe CNN. And I would say the stuff that I came up with and I would get attacked from people who walked Fox and CNN all day long. Who would cite that as the source and of course it's not a source it's just people reporting but in order for me to refute that source which got the benefit of the doubt. I would have to prove so I would say I'm the one with the evidence. You're the ones who don't have any evidence. The mainstream media has bears a huge responsibility for what's happened with Corona virus. My analysis is that they go after politicians mercilessly and that's their job and I applaud the media for going after trump or biden or sanders or any other politician. That's that's all great but they don't do it to medical officials. They never challenged medical officials. They have for so many years just accepted that whatever the CDC says or whatever other major medical institutions say big hospitals things like that they just accept it as fact they're so honored to be able to write down the words of these these great people and so that leads to them being completely one sided on vaccines always promoting whatever. The new drug is whatever the condition always you know promoting how deadly the latest diseases in this case their inability to criticize to not criticize. Ask tough questions of health. Officials has led us down this road where we continually up the ante on our response to this so instead of going Tony Vilocci and saying well you know what is the false positive rate of this test and if we eliminated the virus and we still had false positives. How do we ever know? We'd eliminated the virus and our people being intimated because of fear of of healthcare workers being infected right like those are questions that should be asked and healthcare officials should be put on the spot. Another great one is like have you calculated? How many deaths will be caused because of quarantining the entire population? How many extra suicides? How many extra alcohol abuse deaths drug abuse deaths a domestic violence deaths? How many extra deaths are going to occur because of what you're doing they're just health. Officials are getting away with assuming that the death rate is zero on the other side. So they're saying we're going to save hundred thousand. Americans from the grown of our and the number of people are going to die because quarantining the entire population zero and nationally is gone because of cost benefit analysis of policy is the default. I mean people who take political science take economics take any of that they act like they're actually you know. Bureaucracy is a science and that you have to be an ideological libertarian. I'm not in a logical libertarian. That like don't don't rest on your ideological laurels. Government is about administration. Government is about policy. Well just like science supposed to be about science. They're not living up to their own standards and I would say that those medical professionals the medical experts are exploit that pass that they get from the media and are themselves political. Their politicians politicians gave it the same way a I mean all politicians you know some extent except trump but I mean even trump is being pushed around all politicians completely suck up to medical officials so medical officials said. Say WE'RE GONNA jump off the cliff and we need you to force the population to come with us and so the politicians turnaround and they start hurting us towards the cliff and some of us say I don't want to jump off the cliff and they say well it's too late. We already listened to the experts and they say that jumping off. The cliff is what's needed and this epidemic. Which I guess it'd be true if everybody jumped off a cliff there'd be no karnal. I wrote a virus would be the cause of death. That's right that's Twi what your your approach is so important. And that's why I was thinking that when I'm not being at my father's bedside like that that you need to start thinking of yourself thinking for yourself like what makes sense makes sure that this things are internally consistent or there's proof of what it is use your own head about what's The source of good health and in take take whatever you want but I mean verify it and use your yes your critical thinking to not just accept because there's an MD European. If people want to do something I I would suggest that writing to your local politicians is a good idea. And there's a really interesting article which is which is kind of a good summary of not arguments as as as deep as mine but medical experts. The title of the Article Is Twelve experts questioning the corona virus panicked and these are people who are decades of experience in medical scientific fields often. They're retired which gives them more freedom to talk but they're being retired also means that they've spent an entire career in medicine. And they're all contradicting the mainstream Advice and and so you could include that with a letter saying you know. Here's experts who far more than you or me. And they're saying that we should have not shut down the economy and their medical experts. We're not talking about economists who think that the damage is great. We're talking about medical experts and I think politicians need to start hearing from people that we don't believe that what you're doing is the right thing we think you've destroyed the economy for reasons that are completely unjustified. Well David I think that's a fantastic place to end this a real concrete call to action. We'll put in the show notes. Twelve experts questioning the corona virus panic. And then we'll encourage people to go to their local politicians. Even their local newspapers their local outlets promoted on their own social media so that we have some start to hold people to some standards and hold their feet to the fire. I love the work. You're doing I so am grateful for the time you spent with us. I know I kept you over. I'm sorry but I've been wanting to talk to you for so long. It's been lovely to talk to both of you. Think John if there's ever anything that you think we need to know or you want and opportunities spread the word on something. Please let us know. And in the meanwhile I hope people follow your work at the Infectious Meth DOT com. And listen to some of your podcast and your great interviews. Thank you again. Thank you very much and goodbye thanks Brad.
What No One Knows About COVID-19 (with Larry Brilliant)
"Hey. It's Andy's lavitte. In you know you're listening to in the bubble, which is a lemonade immediate original podcast. We have a super short listener survey. Open right now. We'd love to hear from you, so go to lemonade media. Dot Com slash survey. And tell us. About you, your feedback about in the bubble, which will be anonymous and get a chance to win one hundred dollars gift certificate. That's lemonade. MEDIA DOT COM slash survey. Share your thoughts. LEMONADE MEDIA DOT COM slash survey and Zach will be sure to analyze the results. Probably. There's a special place in Hell for some of the people who are lying how dangerous diseases. Welcome in the bubble this anti Slavic Anzac. A great show to bring you today you just heard from. Larry Brilliant who is someone that since we began the PODCAST in April? Has Been High on my list to have joined the show. He is I think safe to say one of the world's leading experts global pandemics. What was the movie the fact that he was advising contagion contagion I always get contagion and outbreak picks up even though one is a very good movie contagion in one not so much at outbreak, and he is also the person who helped to you sure pox, and he's just an incredibly gettable relatable person. Larry and I worked on a few things early on in the pandemic where he helped. Put together some things that we use to advise the White House. He is very outspoken. I think you'll see that. He has very strong opinions, but also says some things in this episode that you just can't miss in large part because you have to know them, not all of them. I warned you not all them. Happy News some of talented news, but I think they're things that you're gonNA wish and be happy that you listen to. Let me do one more topic before I go to Zach for his facts. You know I think. This last week or so, you know I've gotten sense from people of the real cost. That the virus and the sustained uncertainty is causing people. I did a thing on twitter where people submitted pictures of the one picture that best described the last few months for them. And a lot of them. Were pictures of people that they weren't getting to see. a grandparent, a new grandchild apparent some friends, and while people are economically stressed, and there's all sorts of anxiety was bundling clear to me. Is One of the costs of this is people are missing each other. And so I think that's something we've got to acknowledge and we've got to work on because we. Can Control our relationships with others we can be there and be present for others, and it's something we just desperately need. I also have an announcement that we're going to make an second about the donation that we're going to make from the podcast. But I before do that will turn it over to Zach for your fact this week. I have more good news from the Oxford vaccine trials from stat news. Who released a summary about? Some of the phase one and two. Oxford Trials And good summary Can also be found at Dr. Eric Dang on twitter but some of the key points that I noticed were the positive signs of immunity where people are getting not only the antibodies, but also t cells. Which? Basically means that there's some evidence. There could be long term immunity at least relative to what people initially could happen and other good news is. They're saying two billion doses could be made by the end of the year with the vaccine with the being probably revealed whether or not it was going to work by October. And so the W. H. O. has come out and said they think it's good doctor Ding said the results bode well for long-term immunity and just overall. It's really good news and this is in thousands of people. Over a span of fourteen days and twenty days, and they're showing no side effects with significant immunity. So good news that withstanding they are having difficulty enrolling people in the phase three trial. They have a website and they need to get a lot. More people signed up. If they're going to have that vaccine to combat the virus more quickly, so we'll put on. The show notes a link, if people. WanNa participated in a vaccine trial. Unfortunately, it's not happening as. As quickly as it should or could, and of course, we need to then have those folks exposed to the virus the other thing. Zach, I would say color very skeptical about the two billion doses or anything close to it. I think the right expectation for people is middle of next year. Not ended this year, but you may have a different Lens on that. I just believe that if we find a vaccine I. don't see why every resource wouldn't be going towards as those as possible well, we don't have enough tests in this country's act so every resource possible. We've get to even put in place. The defense production a for masks so. Emad Super Confident Yeah, let's just more international thing and I think the US is going to be wanting to get at the table, I think trump this one chance to save face, and said that he did everything he could to get the vaccine in the US hands so I think it's different from that. And I think he's GonNa realize he messed up. Okay well. You have the last word, but those are certainly the topic that people will be hearing about. Now for our exciting announcement, we're making a fourteen thousand dollar donation. Thanks to your listenership, we are all collectively making it to the Navajo and Hopi Families Covid Nineteen Relief Fund people may know the Knob how communities have been devastated. They've been among the hardest hit in the country in world, this particular fund is one. That goes to an all volunteer. Indigenous led group organization that allows people to stay at home by bringing them groceries at the group's expense. 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No valley can go outside and walk in the woods, and I have something that I can do every day that. I can talk myself into. Thinking is meaningful and helpful. You are someone who a very small handful of people who kind of knew this was coming now. Of course, they're probably thousands of people who can lay claim to the fact that they knew this was coming, but you're one of the few people that actually knew Sim. Something like this was coming. Is it what you thought it would be an. Are we doing better or worse at it? Then you pictured so the Ted talk that I gave in two thousand six. Which think predicted a pandemic? Has. Any resemblance to this. But that's not because I had any prior knowledge wisdom. It's because every epidemiologist I knew in two thousand and six was worried about a pandemic like this the movie that we made in two thousand and twelve contagion. That I was the science advisor arm predicted. Pandemic this, but that's not Germany credit. It's because every epidemiologist I know was predicting. Like this the thing we did not predict is incompetent government. And, that's the problem. Having had consensus in the epidemiological community in those prior years. And working for ministrations after administration I actually. Although on the Democrats, certainly I worked for George W Bush charity. A commission set up by presidential directive to help prepare us for pandemic was bipartisan. There was no question that a pandemic is simply not a partisan issue. That was not one breath or hint of it being a partisan mission. And under Obama while they were stirrings of partisanship in the reaction to Ebola, kind of racism and The denigration of people in Africa who had the disease that was still certainly bipartisan agreement that this is something that rose above politics is not the case now. Yeah, and look you help persuade President Bush if I recall correctly that this was something important to take seriously because he listened and he listened to someone like you. You I as I observe things you know I I mean I see the reaction. At three levels I see the scientific reaction. How are we doing from a scientific standpoint I looked at? The sociological reaction. I'll call it. How are we as individuals relating to one another to job loss, things, and then there's the political leadership reaction I'm wondering, and those may not be the right categories to you if you were going to give us a one to ten scale of one to ten in grade us. On, how are we doing from our scientific response near as you can tell? How are we as humans doing? and. How is our political leadership responded? What would you say? And again we were going to great on occurred, but I don't know how you do that. On the humanitarian said, but but let's create on a curve, okay. I think the science gets inane minus. Give us an a plus in terms of quantity of signs, just like the viruses moving at exponential speed. I think science is moving an exponential speed and. We all saw the MIT. Media Labs Calculation that there were thirty thousand period huge science articles done by whatever it was in June sometime. In the now five thousand new articles a week, so the quantity of science is certainly in plus. I think the way in which. We have worked on getting the vaccine preparations are. You know giving this grade of a class. That's still you know in progress. I would give us an a again vaccine speed for sure. The jury's out on whether these vaccines scientifically were working not. But. To date I think we get high-grade. I don't give us a very good great antivirals. I think from Desa. Vir is a week T. But If. We were in the hospital that we'd asked for when we. So, it's certainly better than nothing and it shows there is a way to. have an antiviral against this vaccine. I'm really super excited about the reaction to come in plasma. And Serum that's we had that for hundred years. We expected that, too, but I'm will that make a bigger difference. CINEMAX scenes will ultimately I think if you look at the Not Not at the CPS thought the convalescent plasmas up at the. At that is being a silo. Will you go from? Blood to cirm to convalescent plasma to specific antibodies to high quantity. of specific antibodies to hyper immune serum to isolate and the antibodies to cloning them in creating monoclonal antibodies, I think that is a track. That's likely to be more successful sooner. Than the kind of exiting that, we need not let me just say I very high bar for a successful maxine because it can't. It is insufficient for only work. It has to work for a large enough number a years long enough time. That we can mount a global vaccination program and get it to two hundred countries to the most remote areas, and I think we'll have a monoclonal antibody. Before, we'll have that kind of action I see and your second question was on. How are we doing? Humans I see heroes of single day You know I. Worry about my friends who were emergency room? Doctors worth see us. Have a friend who had eighty patients in a row and rice. You Die. And this guy a good guy. He was just ready to jump off of Wiscon- to me if you contrast image of the selfless. Servants the nurses, the age, the doctors who are working in hospitals, the first responders who are going to give up much without knowing whether the person giving mountain off on is actually virus easier heroes of the first class. They deserve whatever Shero meadows. We would give to someone fighting in war, and they're not killing. Anybody is your better metal. If you'll give in war. Now I can crash. The reality of their life in the hair was an of what they do with you know. Some of these bloviating talking had our Titians. The governor's revolves power and our dismissing the virus, as if it was some kind of a walk in the park and encouraging people by their. Ambiance if not by the words of having Colville parties, and deliberately infecting themselves, some of whom are Guy I'm that contrast makes it impossible to give very high grade to our civilization, a specifically a plus for the first responders. But I would give a D. D minus probably there's a special place in Hell for some of the people who are lying. How Dangerous Diseases Yeah so we can average out somewhere in the middle, and so, how about our political leadership response I? Think you mentioned some of that in your in your last answer. I think special place in Hell is great. To some of our full. Zach. Did you have a follow up? Yeah. I was just wondering. What's the time line looking like? What are you hearing seen about the time line for the plasma treatment. You're just talking about Oh. We have it now. We have some small quantities hyper-immune. Plasma but we have fairly good quantities accomplishment of plasma. We had about at this point, the thirteen million cases globally and three million cases in the US, and so vs these are people who when they recovered. The question has always been what percentage would give. For Plasma, the answer is almost one hundred percent I. mean the red. Cross is surprised. Blood, banks are surprise county health officer thrilled that pretty much everybody is recovered is donating their blood to make into countless and. The problem that we have is not enough to give to everybody who wants it earliest that disease, but it probably is enough to give to people who are seriously ill in hospital. As more cases occur, which they inevitably will, there will be more tablets and plasma. We will get more efficient. Right now it's one recovered. Case can provide enough blood to give an plasma to maybe two or three. As we get more efficient. That'll become one to five. Then that will become halfway on the way to. monoclonal antibodies and will wind up getting a a pharmaceutical that we can use. Liver the same. I'm very hopeful I shouldn't saft mystic 'cause. I don't have any data. Amish to be optimistic but. Certainly believes in hopeful that we will find something that route. Back with our guest after the break. Summer's all about relaxation. Hard to relax right now, but you're probably home having comfortable spaces to stretch out key in the summer. A lot of us have had to postpone their travel plans. Are still bunkering down here in Minnesota. So make your at home. Station is relaxing as possible with the New Borough Sofa borough makes sofas that are practical and versatile. You Can Assemble Your Sofa in minutes by yourself. No tools you look like a modern day superhero. 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Dot Edu Slash Bubble Ashford. Dot Edu slash bubble. Not all programs are available in all states. One of the things that you convince me Larry a couple months ago was how little we knew at the time and how much value would have and simply learning about the virus gathering data, and so I think it's useful to maybe go back into sort of capitalize some of the things that we've learned. I think for the public as a whole. It's gotta be quite maddening because to be in the middle of scientific process when you're not a scientist, and you hear something in January and you hear something to to the contrary in March into the contrary in April. You may not realize that that's exactly what's supposed to happen that we are dealing with. We have at the time. Hopefully. We're listening to sources who are telling us what we did. There are certain things we don't know. And there's gaps in our knowledge etcetera, but we cover some of the ground, so for example starting with how close are we to really understanding how this spreads compared to where we were when this first came to the US? I agree with you. That being in the middle of Sciences. Messy is the reason period important, and it's the reason why science has adopted a radical transparency. Medical transparency approach to the way that scientists freely share information and. Make everything public. And print as much as possible And? That's the key. Because this is a novel disease that means nobody's ever seen it before and day one. We know nothing about this virus from you know something about it. Siblings cousins, but SARS and Murray's in the four corona viruses. Contribute to the pool viruses that cause colds. That's all we've got a couple of hypotheses about what a coronavirus does. But. That's a very small number of viruses from which to draw inferences about this new one. So one of those things that we learned from the previous two krona viruses that jumped in one case from bats and another location either camels or bats, or both to humans This virus spreads as a respiratory disease. And the problem with that that becomes defining a virus by its mode of transmission. Which is probably not the best way to categorise viruses. Because we think of respiratory viruses, we think of the things that come most ill the mind which are colds and the annual flu. which are fairly mild. We don't think other spy retorted diseases. How about measles chicken pox mumps? There is five maturity diseases. What about smallpox? That's respiratory disease. It kills one out of three. and. It is only one of the most transmission respond Tori. But. The this fires can spread by almost any route can spread I'm going to separate. Can from does if I could? I'm sure it spreads by blood I'm sure it spreads sexual should can spread by feces I'm sure it can spread by full mites that have left behind by touch. It's probably hard to imagine a way in which it. Is Not capable of spreading. reversals can't spreader. But it doesn't. In the sense of which the eighty twenty rule eighty percent over your spread by droplet infections that do not hang in the air farther than six twelve feet, depending on whether you're yelling or screaming at a soccer match. or a baritone an operatic voice. Talking quietly. Okay, so what I think you're saying is that? We. Get this going to try to repeat it back. We know the primary way it transmits which is through these large droplets. We know also that it can spread through a variety of other means, but they are to one degree or another less likely. And, he'll right now as we speak, people are the the conversation is around aerosolize Asian, and it is around ventilation, and it is around. Do you have windows open doors, open and fans and things like that are allegations trying to pinpoint is, are we just at one spot in the lily pond were now on that one, and that seems the most important or is that? Are we making too much of that and is? Is it just part where just midway through a learning process? The clusters that characterize the way that would spreads. Probably. Don't exist if at all in very large numbers out. To, people walking alone in a national park. On the other hand. If you're in a place that looks like a cruise ship. In nursing homes, a crucial jails live cruise ship if you're living packed next to each other. cubicles are so. Close and you're indoors then. Yes, that provides an opportunity for much more intense response Tori spread of droplets, much more creation of airborne transmission. And all of the above, and that's probably what creates these clusters with replication replication value that we talk about all the time. The are are not the R. S for situation. The R. E for effective. That those change, and so, what you think of is a virus were one case infects two or two point four others. That can't explain Saint Quentin. We're five weeks ago. There were no cases in twelve or thirteen people were imported in, and now we have fifteen hundred cases. You can't explain that you can't explain gone. with an are not the first are the replication of to you. Can't the numbers make you? Need towards a replication value closer to five. If you can cut account for all the cases, they got infected in Wuhan in the other parts of China is some of the subsequent articles have done? This virus like Tesla. It goes very fast. If you buy an ordinary test, but you can also buy a test that's able to go up to a dacia speeds, and if you put a lot of money or you put them on a cruise ship. That Tesla go to ludicrous speed, and that's one of the reasons. We're having a problem. Dealing with this sees okay a second category of things. How much do we know about susceptibility? And maybe that's not the exact word for all split. What I mean seems like When you look at the data around, say household spread that if someone in the household has coronavirus covid nineteen, some people now's hold. Get it, and some people don't presumably with the same amount of contact. there's theories based upon gender based upon age. There's something going on there now. As far as I know, we all have lungs. We all have nostrils. is so seems mysterious. How much do we understand about this? And and by the please correct anything I said that's a myth. We don't know. And I don't know. My impression is that this virus is an equal opportunity inspector. But it is not an equal opportunity killer. And there may be I can parse the difference that we're talking about by individual differences, so we know for example we have data that if you have type a blood as opposed to Oh God. You're a slightly greater risk of getting the disease and slightly moderate risk. Of having a more serious disease, that's probably also for a vote e four It is true for male gender, its most of all true. For people who have preexisting conditions and those include hypertension. Diabetes, obesity or being immuno-compromised, either because of a disease treatment and age where age is by far the greatest pre existing condition that determines not so much your risk of getting the disease, but certainly risk getting research dime. So now another mystery. What this virus does to the human body, and it's one of the things that to me feels the most mysterious, and maybe a lot of people feel the scariest you we know, obviously that it can cause least three major side effects it can cars over-stimulation in the immune system can cause blood clots deprive the body of oxygen but we also are learning that it can go into various organ systems. Brain heart kidney potentially others, and then we see these interesting symptoms in some children, and then we see people who have got sort of long tail corona virus where after months and months they're having problems with some of them. Neurological etcetera. So, what do we know and if we don't know very much one, we know it. In this is why I wish that we didn't call it a response to raise. It is a response is that I wish that there were another way to categorize it. It says different from colds as smallpox from flu, and in some ways it reminds me of smallpox smallpox code one out of three in that have a replication rate quite a bit higher so in both the important ways of smallpox was worse than this disease however. Kobe is a disease that affects you knows to toews I mean literally lucious sense of smell you may, and you can get coded toes the smelling, so you get in your fingers and your toes that look a lot like frost by. And you're right, while initially what we worried about was a RT, acute respiratory distress, and these cat scans and x-rays resolve with huge circular holes in the lung. Now we know that when the virus enters the body. It can enter. Several routes, not just the ace two. Receptor which everyone talked about? In in that case, you would have seen the virus entering the by wherever they were these receptors, and the lining of the responded to retract but the lining of the circulatory system is another. But what we're seeing, is that through kind of dendritic process, the extending of almost appendages the virus can then go from south to south of the SAL regardless of the type of the cell. In particularly, the circulatory system in the clotting system is affected. So micro clots, micro blood clots micro emboli. Micro thrombosis are found all over the body in many patients who have coach and this explains they set of symptoms that otherwise you would not believe could be caused by one disease stroke heart, attack, kidney failure liver failure. numbing of the appendages loss of smell and taste. And all the responding Tori symptoms that we're fighting Tony. FAUCI said this is the most widespread disease. He's ever encountered in his long career. I was quoted as saying that if I would not be. disbarred lose my licenses. Scientists. I would call virus evil because of the way it attacks all the cells of the body. Can't call. It evokes not allowed to to motive. To A. Sack in closing in a bunch of fat, but it certainly is not very friendly virus and it's. For the doctors on the front lines, the people who get into the families who lose a loved one. It feels like evil. Do you feel like there's some gaps in knowledge that if we were having this conversation. Three months from now six months from now. That there are mysteries yet to be explained. About how it does all of that, that would cause us if we were looking at the data dispassionately to understand it better in other words is there. There are a couple missing truths that one year, two year three years five years from now. Or do or do you feel like we pretty much got it and it's just. This is the way it's going to feel absolutely. I mean the science of what we were just talking about his or the description of his pathophysiology. And there are lots of specialist, probably smart scientists who spend their life trying to understand disease processes, and they may be path physiologist in in some other world and I do believe that there. Some missing links to describe the plethora of different organ systems attack when we learned. which we learned from earlier corona viruses. That their preferential attachment is in the ace two receptors. That us to make a map of the bodies. To find, where are those receptors? We found surprisingly that they were in cells and organs. We didn't expect them to be and that helps explain the distribution of anomalous. vetter, but the more we understand about what this virus does to the circulatory system. Which is everywhere in the body. That also helps US understand why we end stage kidney disease so early in a process that we wouldn't have expected to take place that soon. Yes I believe three months do not six months from now will be getting reports. They will surprise us and eliminate this process, and hopefully it will lead to. The discovery of vulnerabilities in this fiery stiffy can exploit as we create countermeasures. Right! It's quite clear one other thing we couldn't possibly know which is the long term effects. Whether something appears to go away, and it just really dormant, and it comes back whether something is going to be chronic for someone's entire life, or whether something is going to be a nagging issue, but which will eventually get better, and that the body or some medicine or a combination of the two will figure out how to deal with him. Yeah I mean my major diseases that I spent a lot of time working with polio and smallpox. Smallpox in polio, this tremendous number of international we think of as Eysenck Dominic's. In fact, it's not like five to one eight six. It's nine hundred, ninety nine a semantics for everyone case so out of thousand people who you know Sir logically look ahead, polio, nine, hundred, ninety, nine appear to be a sentiment yet years and years later. People can develop something Post Polio Syndrome in there. There are now clubs and organizations of people who have post-polio. Syndrome! Because it can explain that people you know. How could disease that affected them decades ago? Be causing these effects. I read our something, which is the most dangerous way to start sentenced these days. Because you don't know if it was something, peer reviewed or preprinted, or what have you which said that a decade or whatever it is after stars covy one that some large percentage of people. Were experiencing neurological slash mental health as well as chronic fatigue and I think the number was like forty percent. First of all. It has anything you've heard, and secondly should we be worried about this as if you had to guess? Would you say we should be worried about this as a chronic? Condition even for people who've had very mild, awesome dramatically cases. And you're not even mentioning PTSD, and all of the post traumatic in psychological effects donlon clear it will be the case for anybody who's been in Nice to you Remember the case count immersion and SARS in each case for less than ten thousand cases socially. Compared to what we have now very small sample size given that we've had millions of cases of Covid, and we're going to have tens or hundreds of millions of cases more. We will find out soon enough. What the distribution of diseases and over time we'll find out. What the. After affects her, but yeah I. I'm very worried. The. Friends I have who work in covert hospitals. One in Los Angeles, he says of the people who come into his ICU. Hundred a hundred. Hardy a handful leave. As the same person who came in And that's scary. That is scary. given that twenty percent of the world that people like you and I are fearmongers who are out to create panic in the country and that we somehow must be secretly profiting off of. Virus you know when I think of the the path out. I. Even we have this conversation about things we don't know. It's bad enough to to try to convince people of things that we've seen with our own eyes. Let alone to talk about things that are risks and dangers that are going to come from a here. We've got just sort of very suspecting portion of the public. Hear anything like that. That's my worry. So so any first of all I am a fear monger in the same sense that a fishmonger is selling real fish. We tend to use that term to somebody who selling this Nagoya. Right but not a snake oils. I'm fearful of this disease it. It is a frightening zoos I'm also fearful of the people who either out of ignorance or malice. Misrepresent the seriousness of this disease to the detriment of their friends and loved ones How will they feel? When they tell their mother father sister brother that it's fake. It's hoax and one of them dies. which is happening more, there's. A twitter column that lists all the twenty and thirty and forty year. Olds who died at. Kobe parties, or who deliberately infected themselves last words are. Oh my God I made a horrible mistake. 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So today verses the first day of March, or whenever or middle of towards the in February when we started to see this coming when the ship docked here do you feel all things equal all of our scientific progress, and all of the things we learned about the disease, better or worse, more scared or less scared than you did back. Then I feel worse. I feel better in that. We are through close vaccine and three months closer to monoclonal treatments. have feel better about that I feel much worse in the fact that my beloved, CDC for for all of us who? FANCIER, self epidemiologists CDC's a little bit like Mecca report gone there at one time or another believing that that was the senator, such integrity and great signed, and still has phenomenal. Scientists agreed integrity. It is either forgotten that or it is being suppressed and I believe it's been surpressed, so we don't have the kind of. Leadership from the scientific, even your. FDA. which at one time we could be really sure that if you've got an FDA approval, it was like pulling teeth to get it now. You can get a emergency youth authorization, which requires you only to sign a paper that you've tested your own product and it's okay. Don't worry about eight. This is okay. We've lost these two great arms of of our scientific response, and our political response has been abysmal, historically bad, so yes, balance the epidemic. Has Reached a level I didn't expect it to. Not because the virus is worse than I expected. But I expected our countermeasures in this great wonderful country that we love America that are counting mission could be at least as good as Vietnam. At least as good as Spain Italy France, but when you contrast the epidemic curve, the number of cases. In those three countries compared to ours. I, it's it's horribly embarrassing second. Hidden in those line. Graphs are so many. Tragic stories that didn't have to happen so many deaths. That are not necessarily should not have happened. So much suffering. Could have been avoided by the kind of response that we we're used to as Americans and we deserve as Americans right. So that's that's an indictment, but there's something that's really significantly optimistic buried in what you just said I. Think and let me pull it out and tell me if you agree with this. If you solve the political equation and the people involved. The fact that. Across the world whether it's the Czech, Republic Her. Greece, or Italy or Hong Kong Vietnam or New Zealand Or D China. People have figured out how to keep this virus at bay. Contain it to the point where they recognize small number of cases and can jump on them. Doesn't that indicate that it's not as if the virus is so evil or whatever word you use that it can't be controlled with the right leadership. Let alone science. These are just non pharmaceutical interventions. Help you. In a way. During the Cold War under Gorbachev's role, a five year, billion dollar five year plan was created. To create a superbug. Called the Chimera. It would be half smallpox in happy. To be either used against the United States and kill a hundred million people or to threaten issues. Against the United States that would be a a virus that would spread as fast as smallpox kill as badly. As he bought. This is not that disease. This is not the Zombie Apocalypse. This is not a mass extinction event. I. Offer as proof, not Necessarily Zealand and Taiwan and Ice van three island republic's run by wonderful women. Offer as a real example New York. Run by governor, who was a skeptic? Is I believe the virus wasn't as bad and that we shouldn't close down the economy who had trouble in fact beginning the necessary steps to stop this disease? Until he saw firsthand with his own is how bad it was in the hospitals that had no more room for other patients to come into the ICU, and he turned, and he switched like every politician whom I. Hear you speaking today, who? Who has been a skeptic and who saying that's a hopes? WHO's downplaying when CUOMO governor? CUOMO changed New York changed. And if you look just at the epidemic curve, you see almost amount. Fuji was he almost Mount Shasta occur. That's inclined. Slope is almost equal to its decline slow. That's the perfect example of what we can do in every other state in every other city that is now subject to both bad governance and a bad virus. We're facing a really bad corona. It's just a virus. It just a sack of arna surrounded by a bunch of fat, and it has no intention. Is Not trying to kill. US DEFEAT US! It is programmed to infectious. We are smarter than it is. Our Science is better than it is. And if it was just our science in the goodwill, of American people absent bad governance, we would have defeated already I. Don't mean we would radicalled it. But we would have been much further long into kicking it into the dustbin of history. which is what we will do when we gather our wits, on, us. Boy I had another question, but there is almost no better way rather and. At least what people take away from this show? With this episode, the fantastic conversation with you, which is our fate is much more in our hands. Even in the face is something that we don't get fully understand. We'll take care I won't keep any longer. Thank you so much. All the best bye bye. Thanks to Larry. Brilliant hope. You enjoyed that I learned a lot. What every time I talk with him. We have a great set of podcasts coming up next week. We have our third toolkit podcast next week. We're going to play the game of safe or unsafe with two of the countries leading epidemiologists, and we're going to ask them all kinds of your questions and put them in interesting situations and force them to tell us how safe those activities are without copying out. And then on Wednesday, we have ambassador Susan Rice. Ambassador Rice for those of you don't know what's the national security adviser President Obama before that? She was the ambassador to the United Nations. If you're hearing her name a lot recently and saying, where do I know that name from she is talked about as being on the short list for vice president for the ticket with Joe Biden, and you will get to hear our conversation about that as well as everything else. So have a great rest of the week and I hope you find ways to stay close to your loved ones were now. Thanks for listening in the bubble. Hope you rate as highly where production lemonade media Krispies is our producer Ivan career? Is There Editor Jessica? Cordova Kramer Stephanie Whittled whacks executive produced to show and run our lives. My son. Is My cool co host and onsite producer, music is by Dan Milad and overhaul. You can find out more about our show on social media at lemonade media, and you can find me at a slap at on twitter or at Andy Slavic on instagram. If you liked what you heard today, please tell your friends to come. Listen tell him at a distance, and for now stay safe. Here's some joy, and we will get through this together and Hashtag. Stay home.
Torment in the Ghetto
"Hi this is. Don sharon and this is my podcast. Dancing with polar well. Last week was actually really good. Really good birthday week. you know. it's not like i'm a kid anymore and expect the birthday party. And all that. But i set myself up on my birthday. First of all. The interview was switch. Which if you haven't listened to listen to it it's amazing. He's an amazing person. Honest trans transparent and in amazing musician. On top of it. From what i understand. His latest album is going to drop on the twenty second of every so be on lookout for that. And if there's a preorder for it you know. Catch him a break in a priori forum you know show them some love. He's real dude. He had real struggles and he came through them and He's my family. You know like family to me. He's og and he's all about holding code so show him some love so you know i mean that was like a great birthday present to myself was to interview him and no. I don't personally know him. He lives in canada. I live in arizona. And i met him on instagram when he made a comment about my dog which was weird because we weren't following each other yet so i'm not still a little confused by instagram. And i'm not exactly sure how he found the picture of peanut or not but whatever. It's like fate you know it's one of those things where it's supposed to happen so that we could me and i could get that great interview with him and you guys can help him become the hip hop star that he is legitimately so I've got a birthday cake. A couple of days later from a friend and i bought myself a bunch of stuff that hasn't shown up yet so the whole idea of birthday month is truly going to happen here because stuff is just coming. Well actually haven't received anything yet is all coming in slowly myself. Some really simple stuff. A couple of cool hoodies. You know a piece of jewelry with my burst on it. Because i don't have one. And i honestly do believe that. Thing about jewels having power and on my birth stone you know like helping me balance and just be more capra corny. I guess you know. But and then i bought. What else did i get myself. A fitness tracker. There's a long story about that. I actually tried order on facebook. Marketplace locally. And i just hate. We're to get right into this but you know people are shady out here and they don't follow through and i thought we had a deal set and it was pretty good for fit bit you know and the person never set up a date or time to meet with them to get it so i don't know what the deal is like if they went to my facebook page and like we're like oh i don't want to sell her. You know my money is just as good as anybody else's money spend just as well. It's not like you have to make out with me when you give me the fitbit. All you gotta do is just exchange exchange and on our way. Well things are never that easy here on this mountain and so i just basically cancelled the order and blocked this person. Because i don't really give a shit with their stories or why they can't follow through or whatever the deal is i'm just done so i wound up ordering a new one on amazon. Which is supposed to be here. Tuesday however just tracking and it's in phoenix right now. So you never know. But the way that they distribute the mail hair in the ghetto. You know. i'll be lucky to get. I'll be lucky to get by march. You know and yeah. I have some major issues with running bear which we will be getting into shortly Birthday week so What else did i order. Oh ordered a cool print To remind me of christopher. I'm gonna forget him rate. It's a bible verse and has something to do with being covered with his wings You know his angel wings. Like like i need the reminder rate like i'm ever gonna forget you know especially now with the did a tattoo also. I guess i haven't talked to goes in a minute. Yeah so. I go to tattoo for my birthday. I got the semi colon. Your story isn't over yet. Matched with the infinity symbol. So it looks like a bracelet. The guy did a really good job. And i'm super pleased with my first hot too. Not as big a deal. As i thought it was gonna be everybody. Everybody makes getting a tattoos. Seem just like such a huge event and it. It was it. it wasn't event. But i mean it wasn't lake mind altering life life will. It's kind of life changing. You have to now with the semi colon honest. Everybody knows that. I've tried to commit suicide and didn't big deal. But yes i did that and everything was going really good. You know in a lot of people. I know are having a really rough first week at twenty twenty one and i kinda refused to let that happen and then yesterday things kind of took a slip and i'm not sure that i'm not sure about a lotta shit. You know as usual arm honest. I don't have a clue. I just know that this place. I live is really shitty. Okay and like they don't have any sense of crews whatsoever. They don't know how to do things right. They just don't know how to do things right. So you know i'm yesterday i'm having a good day. I was getting ready to actually do a podcast. About how awesome a week. I had in everything and then i get a text from my neighbor. Who says something along. The lines of the kids just came here and said that ben said that pit bulls have to be out of the park. I'm like what okay. Well why. I mean what the why out of the blue all sudden. It's like no pit bulls. So i start to panic. That's what i do. When i'm going to lose something i love you. Know peanut is my family and the thought that they can just arbitrarily. Say no pit bulls. And i got fifteen days to figure it out you know. Leave or get rid of my dog. And i'm freaking out. I am little talking about non. I like ready to cry even though. I'm okay bro k. Until september because of his essay. But i've fucking freaked out. And i'm not gonna lie. I honestly was lake if they make me get rid of this dog. I'm gonna burn my trailer with both of us in it. I'm gonna leave a suicide note. And i'm gonna make running bear responsible for this by harassing me and having this vendetta against me and everything i do and just always seemingly picking on me you know. I have a pit bull although i'm not sure. He's a pit bull. I think he's a boxer. I'm not so sure. He's a pit bull. So i'm going with. He's a boxer terrier. Mix right now. And i'm just gonna go with that and running their decided that they want to pay for the dna tests to see whether or not my dog is a pit bull or a canary. Then they can do so. My plan is to be out of here by september when peanuts. Esa is due to be renewed and just kisses place could buy used to. you know. i'm honest to god. I had like a fucking awesome week. And then yesterday i was flatlined. I'm thinking about suicide. Because i'm gonna have to give up a member of my family for what all of a sudden just decided to pit bulls. No other dog right. So i mean legitimately i could. Go get a rottweiler or a keita or a husky or a german shepherd and that wouldn't be a problem but often running bear is wanting to do breed specific legislation on a dog that i own doc was a pit bull. Doc was a full blood. Pit bull peanut is seriously questionable. I'm not gonna lie. I you know he. He has a bully. The bullied breed like some of it. But my friend put up pictures of her dog on facebook and ours. Like walk. dog is that and she's like at the box at peanut. And i'm like you know what peanut could be a boxer like legitimately. I sent her pictures and she's like. Yeah you could. Totally be a boxer so boxer not part of the bully breed persecution league. So i'm going without right now. Plus i'm covering until september however is just another thing that they've done here you know right along with the pre evictions on christmas eve the whole no music thing which has got to be illegal that you can't play music in your own house and i'm not talking about you know stereo at mach seventeen thousand. I'm talking about you. Put the radio onto a radio station. If they walk up and hear music they can call the cops on you. Which is ridiculous absolutely ridiculous. So i'm moving. I don't know win. I know by september. I don't know how. I don't know where i don't know any of these questions. I just know i am. I may wind up homeless again in order to save my fucking peace of mind because this place makes me want to die it. Does this please makes me want to die. I am so much better than running there. I so much better than this place. When i moved in here i was running there. I fit it. I was destitute. I was a drug addict. I was horrible person. I was dirty filthy in used up. I was running bear. I am no longer running. Bear item so far ahead of the game here you know. I smoke weed. Occasionally here and there when i can get it. You know but you know the we'd all we'd cartel here where you know that's o again another thing. It's okay for people to sell mass right out in open here at running. There are resort in lakeside arizona but owning a pit bull in a fully fenced in yard. Who has never caused. A problem is banned k. Can you explain that to me because it does not make any sense to me. It screams vendetta to me. And i have group therapy tomorrow but i'm really thinking of skipping it and going to talk to the owner of this park and find out what the fuck is problem is and see if want me out of here because i will more than happily not pay him rent for two months and stockpile my money in. We've honest to god. I do not have a problem with that. They can victim me. They can do whatever the fuck they want. But i am not going to be a doormat to this place anymore. And i am not going to be victimized by them anymore. There are people in this park. That are doing things that are far far worse than anything i can ever do. What do i do. I go to therapy. I walk my dog outside of the park. I do my podcast. And when i'm in my home. I lived in complete silence. I don't put the radio on for even talk radio art anymore because god forbid somebody come up to my door and they might actually be playing a jingle for an ad to sell something. I have music on. And i'm going to get arrested because i'm playing music in my trailer has to be illegal. It has to be illegal. It's a i asked to be a constitutional right of freedom of speech that you could listen to music in your own home. And i'm not talking about blasting it i'm talking about conversational like how i'm speaking right now. If they come up they hear music as loud as i'm speaking right now. They can call the sheriff's on me. Is bullshit bullshit. I'm sick of it. And this is just another stigma right another stigmatization against me because there are three people in the park own. A pit bull one is. My friend was my eighty five year old next door neighbor. Who has staged for kidney cancer and they are threatening us to take away our family our pets. I've done with it done with this place. I'm gonna blast place everywhere. I go now because what are they gonna do. It's my right to speak. It is my opinion. And as long as i do not slander. Them a lie about anything. They can't do anything against me. My opinion is that they have been dead against me and they always have and they want me out of here and they're going to do anything in their power to get me out of here. I will voluntarily leave in september. Or sooner if i can pull it together. I don't mind living in a tent. I don't care if i live in a koa. i don't care. I just don't want to live under a fascist fucking environment anymore. And that's this place is becoming a concentration camp and i don't mean anything against any jewish people or anybody who suffered from the nazis but this place is becoming like that they want people to die here of unhappiness. They want people to not live fully. And i'm over it. I am over it you know. You can outright sell fucking mess. And they're aware of it and they're okay with it and they sanctioned it in a way but owning a pit bull in a fully fenced yard was caused no problem whatsoever who is ensured is banned. Explain that to me seriously. Because i do not understand so other than that and i'm thinking what can be the next possible that they can do to screw my life up further and all of a sudden. I'm thinking wow. I wonder if they're going to mandate that. Every ten who lives here has to get a covid vaccine right well. I don't know if they are they. Aren't you know. I can see them doing that to weed people out people that they know that are anti vaccine that they totally have an issue with because so shady backstabbing here that they dot com up to their face and say we would really prefer that you leave the park. You know be honest and again if that were the case. I would hope that that person would say fine. I'm withholding rent for two months and we'll be the fuck out of your face motherfuckers. We're running bear. Doesn't work that way. They would prefer that kids. Come to your door and knock on it crying saying goodbye to your dog with you. Understanding what the hell is going on until you understand that. Oh the manager of the park just told the kids at all pit bulls gotta go without telling me the pit bull owner. But he's not a he's a boxer terrier mix so they can fuck off anyway so so anyway what i was trying to get to on that is that it didn't seem to affect my neighbor. That much. who also has a pit bull was one that told me about this who her kids were the ones that came to tell her about this and it didn't seem to affect her that much. Now i actually peanut is actually esa which is Emotional support animal so legally. I'm okay yet. I panicked for ten hours. Last night in uncontrollably vomited for hours on end. Because i was so upset about this even knowing that i was legally covered but knowing how this place runs you know. Have having they're going to come up with a lie they're gonna say didn't pay my rent they're gonna say i'm behind. They're gonna come up with some way to twist this so that they could get me out of here her on the other hand who actually had had complaints against her dog against her music which is possibly why they're the whole new music. Music thing is going on. And i don't want to say anything about it because i guess she listened to the show and she's my friend but they used her as an example for that and had sheriffs called on her for her music and then it's easier to blame her not in my opinion but for running. They're to blame her as well. She's the reason why nobody can have music. You not in your car not here not there nowhere. You know music you know. We live in a convent fucking more gear. Nothing can't do shit here can't laugh can't breathe can't do anything here except cell mass which is apparently okay. So if you're looking for math running gear in arizona is a place to come apparently to find it. I'm eighty six. i can't eat. I can't get an aspirin from anybody here. Which were in hindsight. I'm grateful for that. Because at least i don't have that association you know but maybe that would help me with everything. If i was a known drug dealer. And then i can be part of the cool kids club. But i'm not and you all know that and you all know that. I didn't do in super good with that. I haven't used any illicit drugs in a long time I smoked a little weed on my birthday. God slaney It's legal in the state of arizona. Now so it's it's it's it's a whatever But anyway so doctors appointments this week as well can be. My shrink was in a different office and yet they discussed when we see him so we had to set up the whole you know. Tv monitor thing and It went well. Same medication Then went to see my doctor doctor in my blood pressure is down which is awesome I could've told them that. I haven't had headaches a really long time but I'm really grateful for that. Because i don't know what the next step was going to be. But it wasn't going to be good. It was going to be like I was going to have to have it at home. Blood pressure machine and Like i dunno weekly three times weekly in for them to do my blood pressure in all of this stuff. That would have been such an inconvenience for me. I mean granted. I don't wanna die of hypertension. I don't are very grateful up. The medication is working. And you know possibly the exercise routine but definitely not running. There is not helping pretension or my blood pressure in any way shape or form. Another reason why. I need to leave but I'm grateful for that. And then i saw my therapist last thursday and Like i've told you guys before. I really really dig her. She is she is. She's awesome for me as far as the therapist goes. She's quick witted and she's smart and she gets me and i i. I'm really grateful to have somebody. That i can go in there and talk to without holding back and just let it fly You know and it's not like. I'm hiding anything because i'm not. I'm very transparent in a front with all my people. But i'm just grateful for her And i'm we that emotional holy god. I am grateful for her. And so we had a little discussion about my my clothing situation. Here where i have enough close to probably clothe a small you know fourth world country and how i'm going to tackle it and Actually i've done pretty good job this weekend. I got everything washed. Oh i don't even want to tell you how many loads laundry it was washed. And i've got more than half of everything put away. And i'm starting to feel pretty good about this so You know baby steps ray. I mean you guys. I keep on telling you guys you know. Since christopher died things have not been okay and organization on my house was a clear. Sign that something had gone down in my life. That was not good starting to put back together again. You can walk in my house. It's not a pig is not a pigsty. Okay i mean it's it's still not awesome. This trailer is never going to be awesome so no matter. What when you walk in her. It's like ooh but it's not my doing But it's getting there. I did dishes closer. Get input up. I've actually started cleaning yards someone even though at this point. I almost don't care because i'm moving. So you know but just to kind of keep the peace and keep the wolves at bay. We'll keep it going. Wow this thing with running. We're upsets me so bad. It's just it's just. I just don't understand it and i mean that's where was trying to so i don't know if it's the bipolar that just fester in my brain rate and i just keep thinking about it and thinking about thinking about it or if any quote unquote normal person would react the same way. And i'm starting to think. Probably not. But i don't know i don't know if it's a bipolar trade or not. I mean like the the the the festering and the cost of thinking about it. I absolutely a bipolar tree. And you know. Even after. I had found my asa paperwork and major. I had a zillion screenshots of it got lost. And you know senate to the manager on a saturday night Even though i know how much he didn't appreciate that i really don't care I still worried about it like all day today. Like they're gonna find some reason to call sheriffs to come take my dog away from me. You know It's irrational so. I'm thinking it's a bipolar thing. And and at least i'm aware of it rate but i don't know what to do about it I don't know what to do about it. Like i didn't worry also much about the dog today. You know he took him for a short walk and you know in in maintain. Although i wasn't there i can be i can. I can exacerbate the problem. I can and i haven't exactly but i need to be careful because i just need to be careful about exacerbating this situation and just letting it go. I'm covered until september. There's nothing they can do about it. Legally the paperwork is legal. Everything is legal eagle about his. Es a and. i just got to let it go. Not lose the fire to move outta year but let it go and not make it worse on myself Because they may not be able to kick me out of here because him. But if you're looking for a reason. I gotta be careful and make sure that i keep my shit in order that they cannot find another loophole to stroh me out I mean not that. I don't want to be homeless. You know i hate it here. I hate it here. I'm better than running there. But i don't want to be homeless and a half to be smart about how i make this move. So what else is going on. There's not a whole lot going on The united states is a mass. Y'all know that the division here is not getting any better. And you know i i. I have no clue i. I'm on no side. i'm on my side. You know what. It's all self preservation. As far as i'm concerned right now and i am on my side saving my own ass and my baby's ashes and that's really what it comes down to for me right now. I politically i. I guess politically. i'm kinda really an anarchist. But i'm not you know a peaceful anarchist to figure that one out But yeah the united states is an absolute freaking dumpster. Fire right now and I have no idea how any i have no i. I'm scared for my country i am. I'm gonna be honest. I'm scared for the united states right now. Anyway we look at it. We're all a little bit screwed I'm just all i can try to do. Is just keep the peace in my little. My little world and Yeah this whole thing with running. Bear was not really keeping the peace of my whole little world yesterday. So i've got to be a little bit more mindful about that in just not let myself fall off the rails like that because because it could've gone bad it could've gone bad didn't go bad but it could have gone bad and i need. I need to maintain. I really do. I can't fix the world in all i can do is just keep this little this little piece of mind you know at at status quo at just a piece you know this is this is my sanctuary and i could fuck up my own sanctuary just like i did yesterday and it wasn't peaceful here and it was horrible and pino is shaking and crying and i'm throwing up in all over something that would couldn't touch me because i was covered so yeah you know what maybe i'm not as in control all the time as i would like to lead myself. I think i am and something to Just keep in the back of my mind. You know so anyway. I hope all you all are doing okay. And wow that went slot who said i thought it was Wow there's really nothing coming up. I mean i have. I've done some interviews. But i don't have dropped eight. Donald jet in as soon as i know when they're going to air let you all know That i just don't also say so. Thank you for allowing me to say to you guys again You know. I love you all you know. The you know. All the places to go dancing with bipolar dot com. If you need to get a hold of me you can get a hold of me through anchor You know drop a review. If you'd like to i. I know it doesn't really count on the the big picture things but you know if you want to drop a review Let your friends know about the show and if you think it can help anybody definitely definitely have them. Listen to the show and other than that. This is don. This is my podcast with bipolar in a. Hey let's stay alive okay later. Hi this is sharon of dancing with bipolar as we all know covid. Nineteen better known as corona virus has spread throughout the world. There are a few ways to help lower the spread of this respiratory disease however. Wash your hands. Avoid touching your face including your mouth nose and eyes cover your coughs and sneezes monitor your symptoms in consult with your doctor. Stay home and away from other sick people except for medical care. Clean and disinfect. 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"Joe biden come out and he gave us a nice public service announcement according to cdc's new guidelines and This is what that look like okay. Good afternoon earlier today. The cdc made it important announcement starting today. If you're fully vaccinated and you're outdoors you need and not a big crowd. You no longer need to wear a mask. I want to be absolutely clear. If you're in a crowd like a stadium murder conference or concert you still need to wear a mask. Even if you're outside but beginning today gathered the group of friends in a park going for a picnic as long as you are vaccinated and outdoors. You can do it without a mask. The cdc is able to make this announcement because our scientists are convinced by the data. The odds of getting or giving the virus to others is very very low if you're both been fully vaccinated and out the open air. The cdc also clarify which outdoor activities are safer or safe depending on whether you've been vaccinated. The bottom line is clear if you're vaccinated. You can do more things more safely both outdoors as well as indoors for so for those who haven't gotten the vaccination yet especially if you're younger or think you don't need it. This is another great reason. Go get vaccinated now now. You chose to wear a mask and you chose to wear a mask as you walked out here. What message are you sending by wearing a mask outside alone watching me take it off and i put it back on the inside. I know you can't first of all it's hard to even wrap your head around what was just said and i mean there's so many different ways i think when i'm watching that number one with recommendations like that like you know the vaccine actually is effective. If you know your standing out in the woods all by yourself you can actually take that mask off right if you see crowds of people coming back. 'cause vaccine doesn't protect against like lots of people and so the whole idea and i just think if you need guidance like this then i'm hoping the cdc next week we'll come out with some guidance on when or you should or should not wipe your own ass. Because i think that that's what you need right news. joe. I don't know what bunker you are reporting from but come on down to texas because we are playing our parks without mass vaccinated or not or go to a beach in florida. I mean i get it. I suppose when i travel i do notice those of you living in california and living in oregon and living in new york. I guess be like joe. Just let you out of jail and guess you're waiting for your jailer. To let you out of jail news for you get outside of the border of you're crazy states and recognize that nobody's listening to this baloney. I mean we're not listening. It's ridiculous i've been having dinner. We've been having parties who've been traveling all over. We've been having a great time. We're on beaches were in parks. So i don't know what planet joe is reporting from but apparently on his planet everybody's waiting to be able to you know if a tree falls in the forest and you were there to hear it. That's how you know you can take your mask off. Twenty five twenty five states a do not have mass mandates. Joe biden was standing at that podium. So make it out what you will headlines. Cdc says this is what it looks like. We're starting to get headlines like this cd says many americans can now go outside without a mask So those are the people that are watching those things. So these are the internal guidelines and is basically a list of what vaccinate people can and can't do and it's very confusing in fact former. Fda had scott gottlieb called at late and confusing and they had this info. You can see right in the middle here really. The only two things that fully vaccinated people can do with without a mask right in the middle attend a small outdoor gathering with fully vaccinated and unvaccinated people in dine at an outdoor restaurant with friends from multiple households. That's gavin newsom special there at french laundry so the headlines though are starting to look more clear and this is what Some of the reporting looks like this headline the washington post a year into the pandemic. It's even more clear that it safer to outside. It was very clear before but now it's more clear. So perhaps he's this will kick off some better headlines but some of the states have not received the message of michigan being one of them. This governor whitmore. Her health department mask mandate goes into effect for kids ages. Two to four in michigan. The article reads beginning monday. April twenty six michigan's face mask mandate will also apply to children between the ages of two and four that means they are now required to wear a in all public places including schools childcare centers in camps. If you think that was interesting checkout rhode island. They're starting to bang the drum with permanent. Mass mandate thinking about life without a mask against says rhode island experts. This is the state health director. Saying there's maybe a new form of normalcy for respiratory disease is a seasonal diseases like the flu. Now there's no legislative action here but they are starting to talk about it. She is talking about along with the governor. And then finally we have oregon. Oregon may be one of the most interesting headlines of this whole section as mass mandates end oregon bucks trend with the permanent rule. It goes on to say here. The idea has prompted a flood of anger responses with everyone from parents to teachers to business owners and employees crying government reach oregon occupational safety and health received a record number of public comments mostly critical and nearly sixty thousand residents signed a petition against the proposal. It says opponents are also upset. Government officials won't say how long oregon's cove nineteen or how low oregon's case numbers must go or how many people would have to be vaccinated to get the requirements lifted by the state. Now these are from osha so these are different than the state health departments recommendation. So these be for people working in schools etc but there may be a future where we will travel to states where they are forever masking that they have just decided that the millions and billions of microbes that we've been walking amongst since the dawn of man have now terrified them enough to just say you know what we're just not going to breed them anymore. We believe we'll have a better immune system by totally denying system contact. I mean if if masked actually worked of course. But i mean it's just amazing again. We've talked about this. They're going to be some sort of civil war where you can't travel from a full masking state to an unmasking state Things are going to get weird. And i can't imagine anyone that's probably why you just see this mass exodus from these states. That are moving those directions. There's one thing for sure. Mass do help in limiting oxygen into the lungs of the brain. And you know you're not gonna talk and we can go over headlines but sometimes video is the best way to appreciate this as we're talking about mass king. Check this out. A moment of gory overshadowed by this moment of concern williams finished in two minutes and eight seconds collapsing as she crossed the finish line by this wasn't being able to get a full breath and multiple times of that happening. Not being able to get enough air it just. I just felt super dizzy. And then eventually passed out. Williams blames her lack of oxygen on the mask. She's required to wear during competition clearly in the past. This has never happened. And then this race that i was wearing it did happen. Which i don't think is a coincidence. Coach echoing that belief saying this was not a conditioning issue. It was a mask issue. A different response than i've seen for kids that have a collapsed to the track just because they are exhausted. She wasn't sure where she was sometimes. Report incredible does your brain hurt. It hurts right and hurts to watch this and think my god. How stupid is this world. That i now live in. I mean experts are trying to figure out what happened when she collapsed on the track. Some of suggested might be the blanket blocking all of you know. Oxygen entry points on her face but other thing no probably not so much. You know she's saying. I don't know when i wore masks. It was worse than when i did and her coach is backed up. I mean and everyone has to be so careful. We're going to be so careful about the idea that it is the potential that this mass might blocking. Her might not have been such a great idea which winning the race. I mean she was about to wins. Look like she's right there like the did her head come across the sea like smashed into the grand. Got the cross the finish line there. I believe she broke her record. Actually and so there. You go the headline mask make you faster. Good on her hitting journalists asterisk next to anybody who's competing right now has the have an asthma. If you break records you were like superhuman. Imagine if you could have done that breathing air if you liked that clip that'd be sure to check out our live broadcasts of the high wire every thursday morning at eleven. Am pacific time. You can watch it on. I tunes and twitter we'll see.
Despite Vaccines, COVID Is Here to Stay and We Must Learn to Live With It
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It seems that the virus is here to stay for the long term it is easily transmissible and it will still take time to vaccinate the world while we may not have the most restrictive measures in place forever it will eventually be endemic something we learn to live with and it will also mean big business drew hinshaw senior reporter at the wall street journal joins us for waco vid here to stay. Thanks for joining us drew. Thanks for having me talk about the current state of the corona virus in. It seems like it's going to be here to stay what we're seeing right now is the virus obviously is very easily transmissible. We have a lot of people that are asymptomatic that can transmitted as well. There's new strains of the virus popping up the vaccination program stumbled so far. It's ramping up but you know it's still very slow to take and it's going to be very slow to get vaccinated and what's going to happen because of this. It seems like corona virus will be big business for many years to come and it goes through everything. You know testing. Obviously the vaccination programs are going to be going. It's going to impact businesses in different way. This thing will become endemic is the proper term for it so Drew about this. Walk us through some of it. Yeah i think we're in a kind of paradoxical phase where we are really hoping with good reasons to hope that the vaccine dr will soon see a a big decrease in hospitalizations. Icu's won't be so full you're gonna see fewer severe cases for sure of cove especially among you know the vaccinated groups when this article where yeah we've got these vaccines. I'm is if you look at what's happened. In israel cases hospitalizations have fallen by like thirty percent. In the past. Few weeks has been backsitting so many people that's hopeful but there's this industry that's basically building up around the fact that well covid might not be as serious in the you know sort of medium term future as it was the past few months. But it's going to be around for a long time. The number of tests that are being made is going up. It's not going down. You would kind of intuitively think. Oh kobe tests are not going to be a big business in the year. So we've got these vaccines no one's gonna need them. Well the people who are getting their money on this and saying the opposite. They're saying you know this can be need for millions of tests people who wanna go visit their family or go to a basketball game or a concert or something going to want to get a test. I mean the live events industry has been hit so hard by this. And that's one of the ones where you know. We've heard many stories that they're gonna want to only admit people that have had tests or even vaccines things like vaccine sports things like that. So yeah. Testing is definitely ramping up especially at home. Testing kits are ramping up. A lot of people just want to know before they can go out and all that so. That's one part of it and while we might not see some of most restrictive measures in place the other part of it. you know. Big business of masks ventilation proper ventilation and buildings for schools and businesses. This is all far reaching effects. That are going to be part of us for years to come. We are talking about a disease that is going to be in a phase of to use a somewhat technical term vaccine managed intimacy where we've got this disease it's going to be extremely hard sporadic. Eight on a global scale even within countries some of the most successful countries have not actually eliminated it. You know you hear a lot about australia new zealand. There are still cases. They're they're low single digits average but they're still cases cities lockdown over one or two cases. There you know. That's a preview of just how the most successful countries they don't live a post in life they live with this sort of thing flickering off in the corner of society and you mentioned radical diseases. There's only one virus that has been eradicated completely that smallpox other diseases like polio. I didn't know it was just so weird eliminated in the us in the seventies in europe. Not until two thousand two and there are still pockets of afghanistan and pakistan which this pops up so you know this is a respiratory disease. Mostly i guess primarily with. These are even more difficult to get rid of one of the astonishing fact secure. That came out last year was there was this thing called. The russian flew in eighteen nineties. Killed a million people and one of the common symptoms was people lost their sense of smell and taste and last year. Some researchers in denmark did some studies in came to the conclusion that this thing called. The russian flu is a coronavirus and more incredibly. That coronavirus is still with us. Today it's attenuated. It's not as virulent or harmful as it used to be now. We shouldn't assume that sock off to the virus that causes covid is gonna become like week like an ordinary flu. We shouldn't assume that. But you know it gives you an idea these these respiratory diseases and coronaviruses. They from what we've seen a history. They stick around the house now. Let's talk a little bit about vaccines and treatments for covid vaccines. It's going to take a long time before people across the world have access to this. There's still no vaccine yet for children for young children on this so that will take some time and the treatments beyond that. We're learning about all these long term effects on the brain. Fog the loss of sense of smell and taste as you mentioned and treatments for all these things in the vaccine will have to constantly be improved. This kind of goes back to that notion of. Kobe will be big business for many years to come. Yeah and there's a really big problem happening. In the global ice we call the global south countries that have like no expectation of of getting a vaccine to come their population. This year like nigeria. Two hundred and six million people. They're getting enough vaccine to cover. Maybe eight million people in the next six months and you're seeing like in south africa. Is this this new strain and and some of the vaccines that we have are not nearly as effective against it at least in preventing mild cases. They do seem to prevent or we can hope that they prevent like death and then like severe illness. But we're seeing already that there's strange coming from different parts of the world that are beating vaccines in some ways. And there's this gap that we have to really worry about like this two year period. Where at least two years. There's not enough vaccine for these countries and this is sort of a problem that like nobody has really taken global leadership of you know. I mean china. Donate some vaccines here. The kind of multilateral system with a lot of european donors they donate some vaccine here the. Us hasn't done much at all on this front. There's like a real problem with pockets of people who are not going to get vaccinated this year and who will get infected and who new strains will development. Yeah i mean. It's important to note that it seems likely that this will be endemic will be able to live with this. Things will get better on that sense of it but it doesn't mean it's gone away and i think you mentioned in article years decades to come. We'll probably be with this still. Unfortunately that that that seems like we are talking. You know a a long battle against this disease and you mentioned like you can't back. There's no vaccine for children now. That's not like as dire as some things because children don't seem to get you know severe disease very often from this compared to other populations but they can be a pocket where the virus continues to circulate spread. So it's yeah. I mean i guess that's the thing to sit here with. Is just this idea that this is going to be a long term struggle that our society is fighting in one corner. Even the most optimistic scenarios for this year drew hinshaw senior reporter at the wall street journal. Thank you very much for joining us. Thanks to its great to criticize oscar ramirez and this has been reopening america. Don't forget that for today's big news stories. You can check me out of the daily die. Podcast every monday through friday so follows an iheartradio or wherever you get your podcast. 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