20 Episode results for "Reichel"

Organisers of Sarah Everard vigil speak out on women's safety

The Leader

07:52 min | 2 months ago

Organisers of Sarah Everard vigil speak out on women's safety

"From the evening standard in london. I'm david boss. And this is the leader a vigil to make london streets. Safer woman has been organized following the disappearance of sarah what it will begin at six pm on saturday. The bandstand and clapham common attendees are asked to wear a mask and practice social distancing the people behind it say they believed that streets should be safe for women regardless of what the where where we live. What time of day or night. It is a survey for un women uk published this week found the ninety seven percent of women aged eighteen to twenty four. Say they've been sexually harassed. Similar vigils held across the uk. Philly the podcast. Evening standard's helena. Water spoke to one of the organizers of london event jesse jessica justice dogged wilted rican these streets on. Why did you decide to it and very much These streets who's a gathering of Yesterday afternoon realizing that we needed something positive out of the experiences that we will have in both locally and seeing what was happening on a national level. Yesterday i did not leave the house because i was reading worried of a at what was actually going on. It felt very close to home and to me. It was about reclaiming the opportunity to say that the streets should be safe. Emend should be supporting those in making the streets. Safer fell was the response. Been like since he said this often. And how you've been feeling about. I goodness it's been incredible. We we set up some social media last night and decided it was really important that we did something in the place close to our home and the response has just been so warm and kind and women are down. The uk wanted to do something similar also to been online as well. Suppose the response to violence often ask women to behave different name. Please walk walk alone at night. Don't wear headphones excetera. Now while this can be seen as well meaning border. The problems with that. And i think he's about asking women to change their behavior rather than asking meant to change. I think going forward we need to be reading played. The we need to be teaching the next generation of bullies that this is about them getting into close women when they will along the street. And this is this is about when you going for a run. This perhaps crossing the road and the little things like that. Make a really big difference in how women feel in and around beckham. unity's in that public faces. Do you think women have faith in the justice system of this country in terms of getting justice for assault. I think the fact. That won't i think that's reading pool to question. I think a kosovo won't sent rapes as the go to colt in the first place and with bearing mind so only one percent of those guys to cold how many of those sexual assaults on we've got members of all greet who was supporting us in in reclaim the streets who have sadly had to go to court because their sexual because they were sexually assaulted and those experiences are absolutely life changing and the fact that the justice system and navigating is really ready. Hawed the pants example. I can give you if you win. Agreed if you're in a group of people as somebody to you and said these key described to me your worst your worst experience. He had where he may or may not have been sexually assaulted and people clam up people people to be subject that we should that we people scanned of. And it's gonna it's gonna be generations of generations of people openly. No an american really clear that you can have those conversations with the place with with police staff who are trained to support people through this process. And i think making sure that we have gone enough. Police liaison officers. He know exactly how to approach these terrible terrible crimes in enough in the metropolitan. Police is really really important. Have you heard a lot from men asking. What can i do to make. Women feel safer. Yes yes we have. And they've asked is whether they can attend the event on saturday and most importantly they can because sabau how the those allies with us on this journey to make brittany safe a place for women at night during the day and whenever that can be an it's really votes in the when men are asking those questions we also could support them in having conversations with other blanks for want of a better to ten and now might be in the pug that might be amongst friends in a walks upgrade. They can have these compensations as well a lot. Like you've already said. I've been saying oh across the road. All not know women in public at twice but it needs to go much. Further than that doesn't it needs to start with education and conversations. It's bigger than men crossing the right. Isn't it so how what needs to shift culturally. You're absolutely right. It's much bigger than just win. The just man crossing the right. So they're not walking behind us when the when when it's gone dog and it's not just about stopping holy. The from building site saw just happened to be walking along the street of bookstop a complete koto shift of making sure. They're really really positive. Role models for boys and young men were seen to be be. Women's equals one of the reasons these things happening at least do not see these women as equal absolutely anti advice from police. As he mentioned it in clapham even a yesterday can be seen as quite condescending contact because women have been self policing the clothes that attitude have roots home etc such a long time. You're mci an and i don't want the next generation of women still to the organizing reclaiming these streets in a reclaiming the night marches. That's not what we want to be doing. What we want to do is make it make you say for women to go out and exercise and do a ten k. Five o'clock at night when they finished work especially the moment one of the only things that we are actually allowed to do during this endemic is going for a walk. We're not allowed to be gathering in in pubs will not allow to be seeing families the fact of the marriage. It's one of the only things that we can actually do. And that's a really scary prospect that we're still gonna be in lockdown for quite a considerable time. We haven't got an inch an exit of this yesterday. We saw of course retained the streets and metoo trending but we also saw not trending. What's your response to people that. Say not all men. And i think they all right to isn't tolman disowned. Men's responsibility to support and teacher the man. What is ryan what is wrong. It is not my responsibility to not wear a short skirt. It is not my responsibility to make short knuckleheads headphones in a web. Reichel closing and it's about time that mental responsibility amongst the men. That is the base support. One another intriguing. Women's eagles and that selena has more on this story at standard doku. uk fellow live blog for breaking news. This podcast is back at four pm tomorrow.

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3 Keys to building a Bot That Converts

Digital Conversations with Billy Bateman

20:42 min | 1 year ago

3 Keys to building a Bot That Converts

"Welcome back to digital conversations with billy abatement. Today's guest is Neil Reichel head of marketing at bought bought industries. He explains how to build a sales funnel that converts using carefully timed customer surveys embracing negative customer feedback and asking permission to collect personal information. All right everyone. Welcome to the show today today. I'm joined by Neil Reichel head of marketing at bought by. The industry's Neil. Thanks for joining US Super Bowl. So you out today. We're GonNa talk about using Messenger for sales funnels but before we get into that. Tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got into using using bots. I probably this is the most sorry story that you've ever heard for this morning so I didn't. I mean you've been doing a lot of interviews and you've been hearing a lot of stories but how I got into. It was purely by desperation. I was a contractor before a freelancer. Brian tool literally make ends meet Because I got laid off in Twenty fifteen and then weeks after that with pregnant wife We lost the baby so it was really tough for me but and then I got into concentrating and third outsourcing over here is kind of popular. So that's the thing that I did While we recouping and trying to start my own business With online marketing and then but the competition was really tough I got into a certain extent when it comes to copyright Had a bit of good breaks but then again competition about end there. Was this one specific prospect that I got on a phone call with then he said Holy Cow. You're saying you're charging one hundred seventy five bucks an hour but you're from the Philippines so what gives Okay so and then under Warner I mean the guy with the guy who started this on with. Mesler see sent an email and me being the lurker that I am being on his list for several years. I said okay. Why not jump on his and started learning head on and then I found out about his service learning about his first guy the most successful one. Who's now the owner of what kind of me Mary Katherine Johnson? I approached her start talking to her stalking her begging for jobs which she always refused. Because I said I want to work for free just to learn and then she said no no no. That's not the way to go to work. You gotta get beat and I mean. I saved enough. Hide her coach. She hired me eventually. Do some of our butts for lines. And that's it. I mean right now. I've been at work with multi billion dollar companies over here in Manila I've also worked with a little tiny small businesses. Your clients in. It's been amazing literally. It's been amazing awesome man. That's an interesting journey. I think a lot of us. Actually there in the bought space kind of just stumbled into it Over the last couple of years I'm glad you've been able to find a niche and Emam your own business here so in Mary. I've I met Mary a few weeks ago. She's amazing Super She is so okay So tell us a little bit about what you do at bought by industries like. What's your niche? What you guys do for your for your customers probably your listeners with hate me for this but my niche was anyone who would be willing to a niche. I had before and then later on after a lot of pooling of the a lot of bills that I had to pay on deadlines I suddenly realized. Okay in order for me. Dirty get my groove in fourth lines to see the value that I can deliver. I should go for high volume clients and focused on brick and mortar Lights brick and mortar clients. Who were being at least ten thousand? Usd Amman in terms of a rent for lease the why they paid that much for foot. Traffic in the big was there was at eight. You guys are spending this much. Did you know that you could leverage that more by using digital marketing so it wasn't just chat bots but it was more of a digital marketing and gentlemen and the chat? What was more of a demonstration especially with the cure and it wasn't even Qr Code back then was the Messenger. Scanned good was switches. Really clunky but I mean it worked and and from thereon I started before it was okay If a client comes up to meet me Hey. Can you help me sell this thing? The first thing I ask this heavy sold this before without me. And if they say yes how many times. How many units of this thing have you sold before if it's at least one hundred okay? Let's stop otherwise you gotta get. I mean you gotta figure out I if that thing really converts if that's an offer that Brits just what you would say and later on since I've made the focus I've been invited in facebook headquarters over again Manila and then started to speak with this multi billion dollar companies and yet guests. That's it. That's the niche that I've eventually stumbled upon after realizing and a lot of teeth pulling okay man. Well that's good so you're you're niches creating sales funnels. What are what are your three. What's what's your process when you're creating sales At a high level like everyone has their own process What's yours when you're creating one client? We always start off with the end. So we start off with So nippy give an example so the bins around fifteen fifteen thousand. Usd a month on rent and they've got like fifty clients for walking into their establishments the thing that we did to US instead of getting them new clients what we did was. We asked every client that. They had every customer that they had walking. There's that Schmitz discount. So we built them a list. I and from building them Melissa with the survey Which I learned from asthma and found out okay. What was the reason that they were visiting? How many times were the visiting in a given month so that giveaways in order to in order for The customers to tell us how frequent they were visiting. And then what was the reason? Why and where else have they been before? Before they became aprons or be they become advocates of this establishment. So list building in survey was the thing that we did. And then that's the only time that we started scalet like creating a lookalike audience. It's awesome so when you're creating these sales funnels. What what are your tips for? People that are. They're building the list. They're doing this survey play and creating a lookalike audience. It seems like hey that that's a great way to to attack it in to begin Where where do people make mistakes where you know? What should they be wary of? And and what should they definitely do? I if this are brick and mortar businesses that they're planning into tapping his clients would really help a lot that you be there in the same place and studied the behavior of how people would skeptical how they're how their team actually presents scan code. Qr Code Right now that we have And it's really base. There are a lot of really basic nuances at first. We asked the clients to scan the code after they made the payment then after like fifteen twenty s it was like we. We observed that they were all in a hurry. They just wanted believe yeah satisfied but just didn't have the time for the Chit Chat so what we did was wildly. We're waiting for their appointments. We made sure that we put in east minute for them to sit in the lounge. That's been the that's the time to for them to scan the Code Veronica. I mean really basic things but it did a lot because at first was like hey. This isn't working. They don't want to go so the real question was when were you asking them. Discount Code which particular time so that was a mistake in the eyes of many but it could really cost a lot of Bain on our end and We learned a lot physically observing customers especially with the cure. That's what we learned that. That's really interesting and it makes sense. Like Hey I've already bought whatever I've gotten you know like I don't WanNa hang around and do this in my mind. I'm done if I'm the customer but building in like hey we have this. You know minute or two where just waiting. Let's do it right then like that. Timing is everything like you know with the bots. I'm sure you've seen that the order of what you ask. People does make a big difference. Usually it's the same with this. So that's that's really interesting. So when had how are you incorporating messenger? So you've got the you've got the Qr Code in their in their How're you incorporate? Messenger I'm guessing into the survey part of this. So right right after they scan the code The first thing we have is a conditional logic is is this. A new subscriber are not if it's a new subscriber with regard the sequence asking them. How was it that you enjoy? How satisfied are you couldn't really get into the Beatles with a copy but it's just a satisfaction survey than after they complete it. We also have a smart daily with a condition. Logic going to check. Have me collect then conduct details ridden and we knew beforehand. That this is rented property that we're in with facebook messenger so we had to grab Kentucky. Goes right away away. We asked for their phone. Numbers S Amiss. We also ask for their email address and even ask for their physical addresses. We didn't have any idea at all. The covert would be happening right now and now that we have their physical addresses. It's lot easier for the clients right now even send direct mail which makes them stand out in the direct major. Says this hope you're well during this During during this thing that's happening plus right now. So we made sure that what the bought is collect as much information as possible without annoying that subscribers. That was the most important thing that we had in mind with With the sales funnels and people are creating a Bot. Then he'll What do you see like the mistakes that people are making when they're using these bots to collect info into to learn more about their customers? Sometimes it could be too aggressive. That's what we learned especially the first part and that's where we incorporate permission marketing every time. Would it be okay if we ask you for your conduct details and put the reason behind it so I always have this book right with me? It's our Influence all market. There's no this is like the Bible for for marketers and then permission marketing based Plus backed up with a reason for asking certain things like the request. What's the reason behind that equips one of the biggest mistakes that we commit that I wouldn't say for many marketers for us. Particularly was that became onto strong at the very start but we were quick to note this. This we were. I mean you would see on your facebook notifications on the beach. Notification would say. Stop asking me into suicide. It's egos messages only fixed the flow may the asking. Let's try to tweak it with a message and then actually in technology changes the perspective from the subscriber so we added can we asked. Would it be all right for us to ask your contact details and then at the next us either nick? An ex message and says threes were asking. Is that in case that facebook shuts us down. That's what we said he's just facebook shuts down would still have away in order for us to each and you happy birthday. That's about the subscriber you know that makes sense like you know and people know that but you know had let the baht not be so robotic in a little human like. Hey I'm GonNa ask you this. This is why people do respond better. Something we've found as well Give them the reason. Why manage the expectation? Don't just you know build a bat. Like maybe a programmer would whether it's like what's your name. What's your email you know at that point? All you've done is put a form. Indu into a interface you know but that's interesting and then with facebook. Yeah you're right like you're kind of at their mercy all the time you never know if they're gonNA shut everybody down they're gonNA shut you down and why you know they can. They can kinda do what they want. So that's very true. And you said at the mercy end. We've seen so many stories about what alert we're in. The beach was just shut down for no particular reason. I thought it was one hundred percent compliant so always think like three steps ahead so we steps for us is mobile number e mail address physical address and then we added a fourth one which is always collecting eight the subscribers birthday bay and we always used birth sa recently. Get in touch with them yeah. That's that's a great reason. I love it I love it Man. So is there. What what else should I be asking? You feel like you've got a lot of knowledge and I wanNa let you go before before we get as much as possible like what have I not asked you. If you're like if this guy was really smart he would ask me about this. I think the one thing that's been stopping me when I was. I was the hesitation worried that I might get rejected a This in I had to guess like unafraid. Literally a ton of rugs loads of drugs but then realize that then I realized that the power actually profiling for prospects and then approaching them and asking them. Is this something that you need. And then giving option to say yes or no makes the conversation a lot easier and I think what really sets us. Apart is not the quality of the butts that we build. Okay there are a lot of awesome developers out there but to couldn't really sell the thing they have a hard time. It's like trying to open up their mouths and then just approach someone is like The the death whatever through them right but just being openly interested One thing that okay. If if there's this one particular thing that I would like to be known for this interview this if you're listening to this and you're a body builder number one is Bill Dream List of five hundred. Make a list of five hundred people and this should be enterpreneurs people who have a business whether it's going to start with warm first and then just start. Creating a demo bought can screen flow rate screen recording when your phone? Something like that and just start asking. Is this something that you would be interested in healthcare business? You can reply with a yes by with no no hard feelings and then just start. The cadence of building that habit of sending this message is over and over if they say no. Don't stop there estim- why okay. No hard feelings. I totally understand why it's and no I just want to find out why and that's where most people stop. Don't ask if it's a yes. People celebrate the happy dance and just away. Here's the link semi then in what his but they don't ask why. Why is the biggest thing in order for you to get more sales? Honesty for me is what changed my saints game. You know. That's a great point man in you always when you when you're learning sales though is to. Hey you know when you get rejected you should find out why but so many of us like you know we we get rejected. Okay move onto the next one. You know They like they must be an idiot or they don't have budget. You know like whatever it is we just chalk it up in our heads but when you do ask that why it is crucial to learning okay. What needs to change the pitch in the future? You know why. Why was the value? Not enough for them to say yes because if they saw the value they would find some way to say yes and the relationship that you built even. If it's a new thing the the number one thing that always happens here is that they know that you built boats. They know this is something that could help businesses and you become top of mind for a any instance that they meet someone who would need it because you created a good impression. Just asking them why their feedback right. This rejection that they face before like okay. So He's gone it. We just said No. He's gone suddenly gun are you. Are you doing that in your own? Botts where we're you're prospecting and people like. Hey get me out of here. Do you ask him like okay. That's great we can go away but we give some feedback on on. Why we're going to go away. Yeah we always do. We learned this from Ryan levesque's longest widely. You hate me survey. But they don't use we. Don't use the word. We don't use those words anymore. Since it's like super obvious and people are numb the ready to it but we just go approach them and say hey this is a life and you just three to find out. Why what is it that this you off You really want to learn from that. Awesome man awesome. Okay Neil well It's been great having you on If People WanNa get in touch with you and continue the conversation What's the best way for them to get a hold of you? The best way to find me on facebook that's Neil nifl l. find me on facebook. That's where you can find me all day long. Okay Man will thank you so much and we'll chat later. Thank you thank you.

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Episode #1049: Black Voices in Israeli Music

The Israel Hour Radio Archives

1:05:17 hr | 11 months ago

Episode #1049: Black Voices in Israeli Music

"Near! Let Televisa launch the head. Coach more shames. NACHO shirt. missy Bochum vote tallies. May Talk additionality he begins. To. Tear. Will also. Donna Jean. Shit might shy. And the school. Bus Foods. Who? SEEM SAYS OBAMA HAIR SURGICAL LEFTOVERS NOWADAYS? To have, Glaspie, relegation shipped never done. Gabelli should be shared Dunno molly. Daley Natale. camp. On shame. Be. Say. Dies. Dial. Pollute shown name. Aw. Served cadel about Ashir. Corn, Soared Shush cameras communities con has me Garage Che. Earth be Muslim, mission. After the. Who? To the Israel our. Connect with us at FACEBOOK DOT COM SLASH ISRAEL! Our email us at Info at Israel. Our DOT COM. Seven three, two, nine, three, two, eight hundred. Here's the host of the Israel. Our Josh Rouse. Ladies and gentlemen a very good Sunday morning to you or maybe afternoon depending on where you are watching and listening, my name is Josh. Rosen and I want to welcome you to a very special edition of Israel our radio. This is episode one thousand, Forty Nine, and I am excited to share with you an idea that was suggested by rich in Seattle I. It's an hour of black voices in Israeli Music We've never done anything like this before, but there are so many people from all over the world from mostly from Ethiopian descent that have made their way to Israel, and they bring with them a very exciting labor of culture and tradition and experience, and have some of the best voices in Israeli music, and have really transformed the Israeli music industry in a big big way now I will. Will vote full disclosure here I. Don't know enough about their story. I don't know enough about their culture I've been learning along the way and I've learned some amazing things. There is a movie out there. Put Out by Jerusalem you which is called McLennan the journey of an African Jew or something along those lines I learned a ton from that movie about the Ethiopian Israeli immigrant experience. Anyone who can fill me in and share some tales share. Some information would be terrific. I want to welcome you to facebook live. We're broadcasting live today on facebook as we have been a lot lately, so we have people from all around the world gathering as we record this podcast live, and I'm I'm grateful that you are here. My name is Josh Rosen. We started with the song by Hurrell Scott. Featuring usher BAFTA a song called kilom- Oto Davar. Everyone is just the same. We're all the same, no matter what we looked like. Diversity is great, but when wiles down to it, we're just one people, and it's an amazing thing. Harold Scott was the song was written by Osha walked off by it was written by Osha. Bhakta four Hurrell. Scott and Hurrell was so impressed by the song that was written for him that he invited Osha. To sing the song along with him, and the result was just great Kulam Oto Davar so I need to think rich for the idea. Rich also gave me a long list of song suggestions. Zach as well sent a whole bunch of great song ideas and I really appreciate it and anyone else get them into me asap. Next Song is by Estee Radha join. She's. She's joined by Caroliina on this song and just looked up some quick information about Esther Radon Wikipedia. Esther was born in Kiryat Arba Israel to a religious Ethiopian Jewish family, her parents originally from a village near Gondar were rescued by Israel from a refugee camp in Sudan, during operation, Moses in Nineteen eighty-four Esther grew up speaking I'm herrick at home in Hebrew in school. School, her father was known as a cantor in the if the OPN community of Kiryat Arba her parents divorced when she was a child, and later on, she moved with her mother and older brother to Natanya in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, six, when Raja was eleven years old, which he considers a turning point in her life since the family moved to a less. Less observant neighborhood where the majority where European Jews and she also started to interact with French Aleem who were familiar with funk and rap something unheard of in a religious Jewish settlement like Kiryat Arba. Ladies and gentlemen. It's s Dorada along with Caroliina with a song called Abba. Bowie as we present to you, our Black Isreaeli voices right here on Israel our radio station. Alabama smokey! Garlic coon Vela. Named Shahidullah Gaza. Jenkins. The whole mush and lasts less than. Ever. Bananas Living. Still leading off who shot? Clean? Lincoln. MKX! Shoot Latoya. The whole team demand caution all. Again allegedly Hubbard late. A. contract. Be. That's. Be. took. took. Active. A. Bitch. A Guy Go. Shop. ME. You Click on. The. Bushy! Leave Without A. Debt, not nine Ashim. Will Being Shimane. nonni continental surveys so but. The shop sick boy. A. Sunday. Thought the, book! Details. Home McConnell. Modems the more that we are who? enjoyed. For Mike. To Fisher? The media. About the ultimate. Somebody Invites County. But Netanyahu. It to WHO. Changed. Know say. Take. A. It's Israel, our radio with fish or Kazakh, and now we move onto a song by hug. It Yussel Hug. It was the winner of season. UH, nine of. No lied and. Tell you her story. hugged Yasu. is of Ethiopian Jewish descent she was born. In St Rotate has two brothers and two sisters. llosa's parents emigrated to Israel from Ethiopia in the nineteen eighties through Sudan from an early age. She loved to sing, and later on became a member of the banned steroid youth. Erase steroid in which he participated along with their sisters during her military service. Yes. Oh, served in the military band. In twenty eleven. She participated in Kovno allowed number season number nine inner addition. Yasuo saying I'm Benign Song Omid by Shar. During the show's yes. Oh Sang in several languages including Hebrew English. I'm Eric and Moroccan Arabic from the beginning of the show. Yasuo stood out, and she was often raided by the judges for having an outstanding performance. She has a beautiful voice, and although we haven't heard as much from her as I would like we need to hear more from her. And you enjoy this song this hug. It also call Davar must care Israel our radio onto the. Gino's. Decision. Lettuce money. Shimmer. SUPERNOVA. Ski. Must. See. The. Show. Only. Let's see. Royal. Awesome! Scheme! It does money. Before? Shimin Schnabel saw. Spraying soaked over Dan. About. Just gorgeous, Huggy your so called Varmus Cure. Everything reminds me very very beautiful, and before that catfish corker Zach, a very famous well known by now. Rap hip-hop group of Ethiopian descent, s Terada and Carolina before that I have bully and Hurrell, Scott and Osha Bhakta brought us. KULAM OTO divides Israel. Our radio episode, one thousand, Forty nine, celebrating black voices in Israeli music, and there are many of them, and they are really amazing. I hope you're enjoying the music playing so far. The next one which was suggested by a few people is Cobra Kasai. Kosei, not sure if I'm pronouncing that right I think that for many of us our first introduction into. Into this culture into the Ethiopian. Israeli experience was brought to us by Don. Reichel don spent a lot of time in that nation in that culture with Israelis of Ethiopian descent both in Israel and outside of Israel and I think that he was among the first to really make that culture mainstream in Israeli music. I remember when I first picked up. The I don right hell album My wife's uncle said really. That's what you're listening to the guy with dreadlocks. That's the album that you want I. I said well. You know he's very very popular and I think he's. He's going to be a big deal. And I was GONNA write. It downright fell collaborated with Comrade Kossi to bring us our next song. Let me just tell you a little bit about Kabre. She's best known for Work Alongside Don Right Hell Co. Kasai was born in a refugee camp in Sudan on August third, one, thousand, nine, hundred eighty two teeth Ethiopian, Jewish parents who had left Ethiopia to emigrate to Israel as part of Operation Moses. Moses she arrived in Israel in Nineteen eighty-three when she was one year old upon arrival in Israel, the family lived in Malott Tarsha and two years later they moved to curiosity Malachy where she grew up at age eighteen. She began her mandatory military service in the IDF where she met Don. Rico together they performed in many military camps and facilities. When they left the army, the downright project was acclaimed as a success, and they performed all over Israel, and even went on some tours outside of the country. Kasai took part in the first season of the Israeli version of Cobb Milad where she reached the top eight. Her most famous song is a vital resort which means home back. And Forth Kasai is, is known for her use of Arab an Ethiopian bowl full techniques and she is great it's upright. Shelly Don Rumsfeld Featuring Cobra Kossi with by DOC Hello Couso or Israel our radio. Lean. Shit? Own. This me. These. Shit. Share! Shit Shit. GUMMY! Show. Bigham. Messina. Shackled soon. Charlotte Shelly. Show is. For Nine. Slow. Shove Shrug Shoe. She. Long. Share! Chevron Shelley's. I. saw. Sure. Good. With. Israel our radio. You want to get a good feel of the Israeli if Yo-. Paean experience this song by Inca Dasha does a good job explaining it, you love it. This is an artist. I've admired for a long time. ally. Inga Dash it. Me Move Israel our radio vassals. The. Vast from now. On Save. SOFI. Eighty bombastic. Home. Mess. neely. Bashful. and. For now. Now called. US. Go She was the very first singer of Ethiopian descent to sign a major deal with a on Israeli record company head artsy records in two thousand seven. She has also been on the cast of Rehoboth Soom Sesame Street in Israel her name is Iowa in gme yet, and she is great, and we're celebrating black. JEWISH BLACK ISRAELI VOICES IN ISRAELI MUSIC and I hope you're enjoying these songs as as I, am I in GME Shit Bush. And before that Combat Kossi with the Don Reichel Project Abida Hallo Zoran Israel our radio. Thank you so much. You're tuning into the show. Hello to my father, Jeff, who was tuned in in Modine, Israel. Glad that you are watching I know he seen a few of these acts live and is enjoyed them very very much. Thank you for tuning in? If you are tuned in, please be sure to say hi in the comments. If you're watching, live on facebook, always great to know who is out there, so please be sure to say hi, and I want to get to a few. Will first of all I want to let you know that if you don't know already, we do this on facebook. Live every. Every weekday Monday through Friday three thirty PM eastern time, and we have such a good time getting together every single day enjoying Israeli music, listening to the reminiscing about our favorites reminisced about Israeli memories, and that's what this show is all about. We bring you closer to Israel so join US every weekday. Monday through Friday only on facebook facebook dot com slash Israel our be part of the. The community be part of the conversation. Be Part of the fun. We would love to have you. The next cutlass songs are by some of the hottest Israeli artists of today I've been happy to expose you to some art as you may not have heard of, but I also WanNa make sure to include the artist you probably have heard of and the new the newest artist of. Of Ethiopian descent to become a big deal in Israel of course, is Edwin Alina she of course was voted to be our representative to the Eurovision Song Contest of twenty twenty, which was canceled, so she were will represent Israel in Eurovision twenty twenty one. What's her story? You know it's amazing. How many of these Ethiopian artists come from very religious backgrounds growing up in religious neighborhoods in Israel? In Elena was born in the Katamon neighborhood in Jerusalem to Ethiopia Jewish parents who emigrated separately to Israel during the Aliyah from Ethiopia. When she was two years old, her parents divorced, and since then she has not been in contact with her father. Wow, I Leonard studied in religious schools after which he attended. The Hebrew University High School in two thousand eighteen. She enlisted in the Israel Defense Forces and still serves in the military band in October, two, thousand, seventeen at dinner. Elena was a contestant on the third season of the singing competition. The X factor in. In Israel, she had auditioned with the song stone cold by Demi Levato. She was good. Look that up on Youtube. In January, two thousand eighteen, she won the season finale, and she is great. She is beautiful. She has a fantastic voice and the song. I WANNA play for you as one that rich suggested which I didn't even know existed back on. You'll matt's mood. Twenty twenty edge in Atlanta joined forces with Gali Atari to seeing in the ferret. yod It's a great duet from the two of them do great songs too great artists Israel our rating. Being. Hold. Google. Buddy. Ashville. She's. It The. Ball. Full to. slutty. Pool School. Bull Stole healty scene. Though V. P. Blah. A. Should. Go. Con. the. Who Sucking. The. Wolf me now makes. Two Kim by being Lisa. Dynasty. Di Nike Obama in. He. To me took. I? Burn. Method. uh-huh! Sick. Mel. You remember the. L.! Globally. Thirty Saturday For more. Detail money. Off. He missed. To current you, I'm up. He is a very talented guy, and he's one of the hottest singers in Israel right now it's Stefan the Gar with middle. See on Israel our radio. Thanks so much for tuning in and Stefan. The GAR has a very different story than most of the artists that you're hearing. Let me. Tell you a little bit about him. Steph Fun. Gaga. Better known as on the Gar is an Israeli singer, dancer and model. His stage name is Lagaras the Gar short for Lego, Song, the boy in French many Israelis also call him by his Amman Stefan. Stefan was born in Israel. The Christian parents from Togo his parents were foreign diplomats working the Nigerian embassy in Israel. He has an older sister as a child. He spent most of his holidays visiting. Togo at age twelve. Stefan moved with his family to alone Tel, Aviv he studied in the youth village mcvay Israel in its French sector. He decided to remain in the country and learn Hebrew after. After obtaining Israeli citizenship, he served in the Israeli defense. Forces any unit responsible for explaining the recruitment process to high schoolers in two thousand sixteen a few days after uploaded his first dance tutorial, it went viral in almost every neighborhood in Israel. You could see groups of children holding their phones while Imitating Stefan's moves and boy is he one heck of a dancer? In two thousand, nine, hundred ninety became one of the most popular artists in Israel. His mother tongue is French, but he is fluent in English Hebrew you, E W, E and Spanish Stefan celebrates Jewish holidays with his friends as well as Christmas it is Israel our radio. WE'RE CELEBRATING BLACK VOICES IN. In Israel and they are great, and they are talented, and they are very interesting and different from the mainstream, many often different from the mainstream. Sometimes they fit right into the mainstream, and it's great either way, and I want to say hello to a few people tuned in right now. Hello to Barry. Hello to army in Israel Hi Barbara and hi Andy Watching in Buffalo. Glad to have you all aboard. I want to go on with the McKay Latte Shiba the Shiba choir. Here's their story. It's very interesting. In Nineteen ninety-one Shlomo Gronick, who already had a reputation as a versatile composer, in Israeli, classical music dance, film and theatre was asked to prepare to. To, songs performed with a group of Ethiopian children for a television program about the Ethiopian immigration quote, it was the intention to do a performance. Only one time grow. Nick said, but after it was done, he told he and the children didn't want a separate. There was real love on both sides, so gronick began bringing these and other of European children to his home, in Tel Aviv to rehearse and build a repertoire but I he had to overcome some some cultural barriers as choir manager Dahlia meriden explained in an email. These children had an innate shyness. Ethiopian children are expected to speak only when spoken to avert their eyes when speaking with an adult etc.. Shlomo said at the beginning. It was very difficult to make them open up and give I remember feeling frustrated. Many Times. It was also It also is difficult to get them to sing in harmony as traditionally. Theo Paean, songs are sung in unison, nevertheless persisted. Me Why fell in love with these children. It is in their souls. Pure grown at said you don't see masks. When you hear their voices can for sure you can hear their souls Schlomo grown with and the Shiba choir mucky. Latte Sheba with a great song called sheared Israeli lyrics by a door proposed by Shlomo grown it just review on Israel our radio. Thought. Garsten. Road Pound. The. Love. Life. See. Apple A. Fast! Michelle. Obama's. Again. Michael Bob. New. BMI, say. Again. and. A half like home. They'LL BE VEGAS OF. beat the. The Beatles. Show yet get. Them Kuzan. Cal! Row loonies Gal who you're. Okay my shit! The Gate Shula vessel named. Of. Michelle The Sunday. Morning. Pride. That's your. Movie. Has Me. Haunted must've spleen failure are. All because she avoided auto based. On the Blind Tony, Utah At. The local. Punt will make peace amid the markets. Daily. In Lima. Ding, Dong. Vanni. beating. Funny He. He's again. Michael! Muscle! Anybody has. Ever. Again wjm Michael. Barr with. ISRAEL OUR RADIO CELEBRATING BLACK VOICES in Israeli. Music and their musical styles are all over the place as you've been seeing, but it is great. That was ED endear Cil along with debate Dj Mesh E., m. a. before that Schlomo grown and Machi Lot Sheba with a classic song sheer to use elite. It's great, high arum. Hi, Mojo, Hi Christine thanks for checking in thanks for saying lo thanks for sharing the the news about this show Glenn that you're enjoying yourself and I want to now introduce you to the music of Monty Takata Monty was born in Curios Bialik to a large Ethiopian. Ethiopian Jewish family. His family originally emigrated from Ethiopia in Nineteen eighty-nine prior to singing, he worked at a level stabbed. Okay, DOC released his first Song Tequila in two thousand thirteen, but his big breakout came in twenty seventeen after the release of the single Bobadilla which received over twelve million views on YouTube Now it's at about thirteen. He was chosen as the breakout of the year for twenty seventeen by the Israeli annual Hebrew Song Chart. Twenty eighteen, he released the song to core, which was the official Song for the Israeli Pride Parade in two thousand eighteen. His debut album was called lobby. Released in twenty eighteen. Ladies and gentlemen me present to. Live by multi Taco jared Israel Israel Our lady. Supposition Casino. A? Mogollon. A. Work. You'll say. The. Whole Monkey. Suit Live. Best? Cute! It's these Lola. mainly. Road. Off. Sweet! Zero. uh-huh! Game of developments of work. Was! The Columbia. You. De. La Belle Adzic. Love. Avenue. The. Long. Day. For Nikolayevna, Buxom. Law, the Bronco Missiles Fish or meditate. Across on me. Diminished again for. Showed that British research would be my liable. Morning. Nephew loved. The. Don The Mess success. Of Men. You nothing. CANANEA go. Back. Look. Baddies. It! For ME. Kalani the. APENNINE. August. Lag Time. WOMA says. Rest. You. The fall. ME Israel. Radio I hope you're having as good a time as I am I'm getting introduced to some brand new Israeli artists that I didn't even know about, and I am enjoying every minute, and it's just so special to celebrate this aspect of Israeli culture that many of us don't always take the time to really appreciate I know Ellen was telling me off lying that there's so many facets of Israeli culture that we can just embrace and be. Be inspired by and be impressed by and I hope you're enjoying these black Israeli voices on today's edition of Israel our radio again a huge thanks to rich for this great idea, a huge thanks to Zach for suggesting some really really great songs and great artists, and thanks to all of you for being part of it. We're not done got two more songs to go and the next one is by an artist. You may have heard of named. Melissa he had giant hit a few years ago with a song called. Summer, we've played in on this show a few times, and instead of playing that one again, I thought I would play this one along with Milliken L. produced by Jordi. It's odd your molasses along with no Akira. The song called mccomb mischievously. Israel our radio. Kouchner and she. She. Can who. CARE. She. Of the coach of the show. Them. Sharon to. Be. Seen. In Combing You. because. Should be done with. The sound. Non. Commercial. Them Yadana Was? Phone! Move shared. The! Pursue. took. It's odd bjorn. Lhasa and Noah Curiel with Mike homeless she noise Israel our radio. I WANNA. Thank you so much for tuning into this really really cool show. I thought I had a great time presenting. It's you and what's so amazing about Israel is the diverse. Cultures that have that make up the Israeli people the cultures from all over the world. We are a key boots. Galileo to an in gathering of exiles, where people from all faiths, all cultures, all destinations, all traditions get together to celebrate modern Israel and it is something very very special. I hope that you've enjoyed today's investigation. Today's look at black voices in Israeli music I thought. Thought. It was really really great, and I hope you did too, and I want to thank you for tuning in I. Want to remind you that we're back tomorrow on facebook. Live three thirty PM eastern time I sincerely hope you will join me as well as we continue to celebrate the land of Israel, the people of Israel the culture of Israel and the music of Israel. The song that I. Have for you to conclude. Today's show is one suggested by Shirley. It's by a guy by the name of Tony. Ray clearly not of Israeli I think he must have come from America. I don't know too much about him, but he has a really cool take on. Aric Einstein's on Nevada that I think you're going to enjoy I will see you soon. Thank you so much for your love and your support until next time. My name is Josh Rhone you're tuned to Israel, our radio on my Israeli music dot com also on eighty eight point seven wr. New Brunswick? I'll see next time on Israel our radio I'll up seek grew less year. Eve tandy Sunday told them I'd be. Bet. Hold. Off! Top then. ME. We in UNWRAP in bars. Nine. At the the time. The. Time, pull. Chapel. What's up. With. Even town. decided. My friend. On change world. My friend. Them. Israel to. Some, said it. Doesn't. Change. That's. Right. We don't see. It. Either Attorney. Randy shut. Up. Shut me percent. saw. Thanks for tuning into Israel our radio I. Sure Hope you enjoy today's episode. If you did be sure to tell a friend about us, you can also help us grow by giving us a five star. Review on Apple PODCASTS, and while you're there right down a few words about why you enjoy the show. We'd love it if you would follow us on facebook. 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Putting the pedal to the email with Formula 1 | Feedback Friday

Feedback Friday by Really Good Emails

16:15 min | 4 months ago

Putting the pedal to the email with Formula 1 | Feedback Friday

"Feedback friday everybody. It's a good day to be alive. I'm here with rob hope of one. Page love and email love. I am super psyched to talk about one. This is going to be sick. Look at these frigging amazing gifts. This episode is sponsored by neck with knack. You can build your own really good emails in minutes. Create incredible emails with their dragon. Drop email builder and get them to market ten times faster. No coding or agency required. It's the platform. Email geeks need now folks at knack would love to show you how thousands of marketers build their emails every day. Check out the link below. I wanted to pimp something here for rob. He didn't pay me for this. But i'm just psyched about it. I went through all one hundred days. And we all need to read this of. I am telling you about this because our audience is always looking for better ways to learn how to design. And i believe that emails are landing pages. Delivered learning about great design and strategy. Tips for landing. Pages are killer. Rob scott you know the book to boot get into these emails. It's super helpful. Thank you for putting them together. Rob i again. I loved it. Great copywriting in it and great examples. Well-done done dude. Thank you. i mean it's interesting because when you promise one hundred emails one hundred days it may seem overwhelming. But i spent so much time stripping the email lessons down to the coal. Sometimes you get two paragraphs and it's just a reminder about some fundamentals when it comes to design and i get so many replies still so it's email drip up today. You get hot one today up to tomorrow in a hot tip one hundred and one hundred days and it's crazy because i set this up a couple of months ago and are still getting replies someone replies to know tip number seventy today go. Did i really appreciate this one. I'm like which one is that against sick. Yeah it's really cool and you'll be surprised at how many people got through the hundred. It's really appreciation of just cutting down. This people appreciate snack. -able bites of information. I agree man especially these days. There's so much information so much noise. It's hard to break through so speaking of that. How is this email working in the engagement. We've talked before about this idea that email is utility minimum viable content. Get it out there. Say your thing do it with his few elements as possible. What's killing it for this In that way in this email we always gonna turn to gifts to try and create a little bit of action in emails. And you know they've nailed it so this is a formula one car as it hits the chicane the copy comes in. It's just remarkable like this email in your inbox. That looks like this. It has all the same traits to watching a live race cameras everywhere causing post. So it's reminding about the action that's coming up. It's an excitement building and so on. I told us email a pot. Bits in it's quite interesting Email this gift is three point. Four megabytes while you know. I want to actually just throw the question that she before we can. We can go into more suffolks working but you know matthew. Where's the limit because this email is a seven point. Three megabyte emailed him. That's what she loading on your phone and the gift itself is a three point four make is it too much. It's such a hard question right so let's go into matthew story time. I quit drinking four and a half years ago. Life had to change. Things weren't working on that journey. I swear i'm gonna get back to the point here on that journey. I discovered this narrative of how rarely by aries work. Binary is being like. This is true that is not true. This is right. that is not right. There are very few things in this world where that kind of binary thinking works or it's helpful or serves people and i think this is a good example so one of the things that i think about here is. Who's the audience. Is somebody going to be looking at this email in a sub saharan africa. Where there's no internet connection. Probably not. I don't know that's the question. A seven point three meg email. That's a lot for a little bit of communication this team. That's putting together. They need to decide together. What is the limit. What is the bar. Could we accomplish this intensity in this like this really exciting. You can almost hear the you know. It's just jamming you feel it. That's cool like that really gets me. Is it worth it. You just got to figure it out with your audience. You know like generally speaking best practices. This is too big. So i would say that seven point. Three megs is going to be pushing a limit on this far end but is it serving their audience. Only they can know that. That's where i think you know there's no truism out there there's no binary find out from your audience but don't here's the thing not to do. Don't just put something out there and not check your analytics not check to see how it was affected. Check in with your audience asked him a question find out. Is this working. is this annoying. You can either ask them in an email like this email specifically hey was this was a big game onto this suck or is it fine. You know you can actually break the third wall and actually get into conversation with your audience or you can email twenty five audience members and asked for an interview. You can give them a ten dollar amazon gift card for something like that. Learn more about how your emails are serving them. Learn more about them as people and the more that you get to know your audience to more in relationship you can be with them and the more vital. That relationship is the more loyalty you can garner for your brand. I just want to add three things out of this Gift that other email designers and creators out there can take three things happening here that makes us very unique in the sense that this could be a little square within the email. But it's not it's full width. It's got this little band at the bottom. Which is part of the gif k. So it feels just unique. You know this is the formula. One stick got bands interns everywhere. But they've included that in the intro this curve. You're talking about sorry to interrupt. Its rate from this. Friday feel it. The brand system has identified to us angles. See the angle of the yellow here. I think it's the same as the f. here and the The one you're spot on even notice that until you pointed it out you feel it. Yeah so it's super on brand. But another thing that that i want to mention is that this headed with the logo and the issue number is part of the gift as well and what is does is it creates this feeling that this actually a car driving over the email. I know i'm being dramatic. They didn't have to do that. But this gift is now. The images taken of the third thing is that they've actually included the flag colors within the type. So this just so much in this intro. And that's exactly what the formula one's gonna be. You know the copywriting you love it. We love it. Twenty googling beast returning to the track. The copywriting is just on point when it comes to hype before the race and it's like a call to action buttons. We can call that copywriting to get in the know expert advice. This could just say click here. It doesn't every single thing is to is to do with creating higher so again when you talk about with your team. What is the objective of the email. The top of the pyramid is hype. And we've got here formula one 'cause coming and riding over the email logos we've got good copywriting. We've got all the. This is a very comprehensive immigration as well. You know we've got little snippets expert advice if you scroll a little bit further. He'll see this. Actually i think or maybe it was the other one. Just keep going down. So there's mark webber with his little. I love the big images so here look infographics of the actual track. You get to see all the different turns yet. It's so what i want to say. Is that comprehensive as a fan of formula one you want you know the nuances. You want this specific information. And yeah this. Just delivers is comprehensive as a fan. You are happy with us. Email so consistent to notice. This was interesting. They've got sort of a sub branded space happening here. It's almost like this. I think that's gotta be drawing on some star wars theme or something like that but it's us feel this You know neon lightsaber and they the go ahead and own it. Instead using this same red here they maintain that sort of brand uniqueness here the they've done a really nice job. Let's look at this other one. What is the things that you're seeing here again. That are mimicked in this one yet. Berlin so you can see that design system you know. They've got a massive document that they just ticking with every. Send this gift. I'm actually not even sure how they created this. The probably with some animation tools. But yeah that's that's a very impressive gift to start an email just shows speed that speed blah even the funds like slightly blit around the edges. Meaning that you can't even read things Because it's going so fast. See that is just super consistent with other sand colors strong. Like if you scroll down this email you see a very similar format but again look at this track. This grand prix is coming up in australia and they showing you the track. That is exactly what you would like to know. So let's talk about positioning yourself. When you're about to start greatness. The team gets together and they themselves. What exactly would formula one fan wants to see in a fan email leading up to the race and you know what you want to see. You wanna see what are the. The noteworthy corners look at last year for step tussled with lack intern. For you know what. I mean or mode. I remember that spark in an old memory. So it's just it's got these little like highlights and this is Proper fans stuff. 'cause you recalling old stories you know. This is not for new formula one fans. This is for real phonetics. I love and even if you're not on that level you feel and you're invited into that right. There's so much that's happening here and you know. We talked a little bit about the weight the file size of these emails. And you know the more time. I spend in these the more that i realize. It's a tradeoff. Think about what. Formula one fans are doing on tv right. They're spending a lot of time in front of a very visual experience. This brand is very visual. Yes they support it with great copywriting they don't let that slide off also appreciate that they bring in live texas often as possible here but you know like they do something unique this coded in an email would have been a very difficult thing to do would have been amazing but like okay. We're not gonna like go. Go to town on something like that but we are going to still use as much live texts as possible. They do that well. They could pretty easily get a what's called a bulletproof button. Set up here where they could have that be live text. I think if there's one thing other than increased live tax which. I'm always just going to be banging on about that. I would love to see here would be just a little more refinement in terms of the use of different typography design styles so i talked about designed golf and i think they could go one or two steps further in just dialing that in a little bit like i understand they have these sort of sub brand moments and they use like different fonts to break in with some of that kinda stuff. This is a different font than you know some of this up here. There's some shared characteristics. They add a lot. And i think that's part of probably the brand but me personally especially in an email. If there's anything you can do to keep the email and sort of utilitarian way of thinking it's little stuff like the grid. So there's a lot of different places in the grid. We've got left align. Now you've got sort of bizarre not quite centerline than this. Kind of unique lockup left aligned again right aligned again or this time and then left the line again and then a little bit of different. Any of those things on their own is fine but they add up to a lot of differences and that just causes some friction. I think so. Just something that i think from my perspective. Do you agree with that. Rob or or you have a different perspective. Not agree that for me this. I see the landing pages as well and it's so overlooked. And i'm not saying that this team isn't you know top design but there's an inconsistency when it comes to vertical spacing. This is just something that happens in. you know. We don't have a look at it so hard. It's so difficult but if you look under the buttons they nautile the same spacing You know some of the headings. Y'all i'm trying to be But i think you know for what they've done they've achieved you know. They're trying to make a comprehensive that trying to gain the hype. They've got their gifts. So there's some trade-offs here. Maybe there was time constraints you know. Maybe this email took one hundred hours in you know that infographics that did of the track you know they hit us. Okay we'll if we have twenty hours left of our time allocation maybe this attempt us but they ran a time and then they now you ask yourself as email team you say do we not include it because it's an image or do we included as an image and you know. I think it's the reichel but it's just interesting. It's all trade-offs that's right. That's a good way to put it as trade offs. I think they've balanced out so much and generally speaking e-mail teams are very small to achieve this much with likely a small team. I think it's pretty impressive. Feedback friday folks. If there are other emails that are high quality like this that we should be reviewing. Please submit them or just. Let us know on twitter instagram. Really good email or really good emails. Twitter didn't pass so we had to remove that. It's so good to have you on again. Rob will have to do this again before too long. Keen and too good to be with you. What are you going to get up to this weekend man. I think i've been working pretty hard and like you're saying that you were going to take a trip. I think i'm also just spent some time in the ocean you know hopefully get a few serbs in and clark off get recess and then bang out the next week dude a one of these days. I really wanna come learn to serve with you so sick. We have plenty webs in south africa. I grew up snowboarding so and skating. So like it in my blood. I want to take that leap to learn that the new wanted that are surfing. I've heard it can help but also it's it's own thing and Man one of these days. It'd be tight. I've always wanted to get over to south africa so we'll always welcome. Thanks my man It'll be good to catch up again soon. Feedback friday folks email gigs. Thanks for being here. Stay healthy stay safe. Remember to be kind. Be really good and we will see you then. Next time piece chagas.

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UFYB 180: Philosophy = Self Help + Why It Matters

UnF*ck Your Brain to Create Feminist Confidence

30:28 min | Last month

UFYB 180: Philosophy = Self Help + Why It Matters

"Fuck your rain. The only podcast. You are use psychology feminism and coaching to rewire your brain. And get what you like. And now here's your host. Harvard law school brad feminist rock and master coach hard low. Dial chickens how are you. I miss you all. I have been really loving revisiting. All of the released content with you the updated episodes and interviewing my fellow coaches but i also love just coming here to chat with you and tell you about what i'm thinking so that's what i have up to. I have been really buckled down working on so many amazing things that we are planning for this year. We have ardy our sponsorship for four. Black indigenous are people of color coaches. Who are getting certified athletic coach school so we are sponsoring half of the tuition for four amazing coaches who are going to bring their life experiences and perspectives to this work and up level the coaching industry. And i'm just so excited about being able to make access to certification more accessible and we also are launching our first ever round of scholarships to the clutch which is also raising. So if you miss out on those we've just wrapped that up. We're going to do them again. Don't worry just make sure that you keep up with the podcast. You know in their announced or you can get on my email list. You can go to fuck your brain dot com for slash podcast. And when you go to that page there's a pop up that comes up that gives you the option to sign up for a free podcast guide which is actually amazing. And we'll help you take what you learn in the podcast and apply it more deeply to your own self work so really. You should go sign up for this. Anyway at unfunded rain dot com slash podcast. Just give it you know. A seconds of papa will come up but also you'll then be on my email list so you'll have i notice of everything that we do in the future including the next time that we open up clutch scholarships. So we did that. What else have we been doing. I have been doing my body image. Masterclass the fuck your body image program. First time we've ever offer that outside the clutch and that fills up really quickly and people are so excited. I am so excited to teach them this work. I feel like body. Image work is one of those things where people hear about it and they just are still thinking like well. I just. I really do need to lose that weight or like changed my exercise or be and then all of my body and like sometimes it's like a slow burn. It takes a couple of tries and they realized that either like they can't get the outcome they want or they are able to do it and they still hate their body. So it's so. I feel like i've been planting seeds about the importance of doing this body image work and they're finally starting to kind of fruit and flower. Enough people have tried over and over again to lose weight or to change how they look or whatever to try to feel better about themselves and when that doesn't work for the million time they're finally ready to get to the heart of the issue so that is just so encouraging the last thing i've been working on which i'm so excited about is we are about to open up registration for our next clutch. College live clutch. College live is a three day live event. I caught someone's like to call it a coaching jamboree. Even though i don't really know jambi is that i've never been to one. But they sound really fun and there might be banjos. Which i like there are no benders. I clutch college live but there is a deep dive. Coaching lots of coaching with me. I am teaching concepts that you don't get anywhere else. Only available clutch college live and then we coach live. We teach we do exercises and coach ourselves and get feedback and then we also have small group sessions with amazing master coaches for this coming clutch. College live we are going to have. Our master. coaches are going to be big johnson who coaches high-achieving black women to embrace their excellence and love themselves shoes guitar. Who has an amazing plus size curvy. Style coach brenda meli. Who is an amazing coach. Who focuses on losing the last ten pounds and we love each other. Even though i'm not a weight loss coach and our fourth coach is gonna be krista saint germain who i have been working with for years and is one of my favorite coaches and she coaches would mom. She's an expert on grief. So i'm so excited to have them helping. And so excited for my students to learn from them and to learn from the different perspectives. They are all also going through my advanced certification and feminist coaching right now and they just bring such a wealth of different diversity and experiences and backgrounds and perspectives on coaching. So we're going to be working on the model becoming amazing at using the coaching model. That i teach not like both so that we can handle any upsetting situation that comes up and change our thoughts about it but also so that we can create positive emotion and positive thinking to just feel great and achieve the things we want to. There were spent a whole day on goal. Setting everybody's gonna work through setting and big goal how to achieve it without burning out and without giving up right no hustle no giving up instill how to achieve big goals how to know how to set the right goal with the reichel is how to set up your process for the goal. All of that. And then we're gonna be talking about relationships any kind of relationship. That stresses you out. We're gonna talk about how to feel more peaceful and calm and capable and in charge of how that relationship goes and how it feels. So i love these events there one of my favorite things that i do. It is so fun to get a smaller group of students together live in the old pre pandemic days. We did these in person. And i can't wait until we can do the Again but we actually have such a fun. Amazing time on zoom. We did one of these january. And even though i was a little concerned the feedback was unanimously. That it was amazing and they people would have done another three days that their energy never lagged that it was engaging and transformative the whole time they forgot they were even on zoom. We had one student say that if we were offering the same event with the same content and the same price she would have signed up to do it all over again right away and paid again so are amazing. I'm so excited. So they're only for people in the clutch if you are in the clutch and you're listening to this podcast day. It comes out. We are going to be opening up registration very soon so keep an eye out. We've been posting in the facebook group. We've been sending emails that you don't miss it and you know when we're doing the live webinar when you can start to register these always sell out within like forty eight hours so definitely keep an eye out and if you aren't in the clutch but the sounds amazing. You want to join the clutch. You can try to come. You can text your email to plus one three four seven nine three four eight six one. So let's just send email to plus one three four seven nine three four eight six one and you get linked to join the clutch or you can always just go to on your rain dot com for slash the clutch and as this episode is going to teach you. The clutch is basically Philosophy symposium so you're gonna find out more let's take part and let me tell you what i mean by that. Okay so do so many fun things. It definitely feels like spring is here. The trees are starting to turn. I think we may have made it through the pandemic winter. It feels like life is on a little bit. So when i want to talk about today actually came out of a conversation that i had with my brother right before winter like back. The last time it was nice enough to be outside earlier in the pandemic. I think it was in the fall season. I remember that we were sitting in washington square park. And you know we're outside obviously pandemic so my brother and i both went to yell for undergrad degrees and we both took part in this program. That's called directed. Studies says basically lake a year long great books curriculum and you have small seminars with professors rather than taking big lecture hall classes right which is like your normal freshman experience. You think of all those one at one course is huge lecture hall and you have t- as mostly and when you're in directed studies. It's like having advanced like upper-class seminars but it's all first years who are all doing the same program and you're reading these the great books on multiple topics okay so but point being and we were both raised by a rare book dealer. So we've read a lot of classical literature and philosophy. I have to say. I actually kind of stopped reading that stuff after law school which was another three years of this because i just felt like after twenty years of education longer than that god who out so long. I'd had my fill of like pontiff occasions from white men and seventeen thirty two about the nature of the world. But i have very deep background and my brother still reads classic philosophy in history and the like kind of for fun for him. Okay so we're sitting on the bench in the park. And i was talking about how my own coach had recently asked me like. How did i see myself. What word would i use to describe myself what i call myself a coach what i call myself a teacher what. I call myself an entrepreneur. And i'm all three of those things right. I'm even businesswoman j. Used to always. I thought that name very hard at my master coach training so it's a long running joke with my coaching friends. I'm all those things but here's a really came to mind in. It felt kind of funny to say it is time. I'd rather i was like you know it feels ridiculous but like i kind of think that i'm a philosopher. I think what. I'm doing is thinking about philosophical questions just in this kind of life coaching format and so i felt kind of silly saying that my brother who is not beset by decades of internalized sexism and misogyny just shrugged and said well i think most of good philosophy is actually self help in some ways right. That's always been the case and that just kind of knocked me out. Because all of a sudden back to all the philosophy ever studied and i realized that he was totally right eat and so today i want explain to you why think philosophy and self help are kind of the same thing a lot of time and why that matters right. It's not just semantics. It's not just well okay. Call at one the other because what we call things and how we think about them impacts how we experience them and what we do with them. That's the whole point of this podcast. Right how we think about things impacts us so i wanna kind of go over the different classical branches of philosophy. Don't worry says knocking to be a snooze fast. I promise but just talk about kind. What those different philosophical branches and steadies look into in question and how that relates to our work so there are traditionally several different branches of western philosophy as a discipline. You know some people say for some say five some say tan whatever. It's the for our purposes really matter. I'm gonna talk about it. As basically for overall categories and two of them have sub categories. So we're told about like eight. We're splitting the difference. Okay so i'm gonna give you the names and talk about what he. But here's what i wanted to really listen for. I want you to listen to the questions that each category of study or philosophizing is interested. In what questions does it ask right. One of the questions that the people who do this philosophy work think about okay so the first is metaphysics. So metaphysics is the study or the theories of the nature of the physical universe and reality so metaphysics. Ask questions like what is real. How can we know what israel weird the universe come from eight. Those are metaphysics. the second is epistemology. So epistemology is the study of the nature and origin of truth and knowledge and so epistemology as a discipline investigates questions. Like what can we know to be true. How do we know the things we know. How do we learn the things we know. Why do we believe what we believe. So those who are pretty well known i think. Then there's axiology which is not a term you hear that much but you've heard of the subgroups axiology is the nature of principles and values and that includes both what's called ethics and what is called a status so ethics is the nature of morals morality rate. The study of morality and ethics as a discipline asks questions. Like what is just what is good. What is ethical. How do people come to ethical values or conclusions. Right how should we choose an evaluate. Our ethical principles aesthetics is the nature of beauty so aesthetics as a discipline. Ask questions like what is beautiful. What is beauty. What is pleasure. What is art right. What makes one thing art and another thing not art. How do we experience beauty or pleasure art. What are the principles that make something beautiful pleasurable right or artistic so metaphysics epistemology than we have ethics and aesthetics k. There's logic logic is the study of the nature of human reasoning and there are two types. There's deductive logic which is when you establish a set of rules or principles and then you apply them to specific instances right so you might decide. You'll question you would ask. It'd be like what are the rules or principles for how i wanna make. A decision evaluated outcome or live my life. Now how can i apply those two specific instances so for instance you might say i'm one of my principals is to be fair. Okay now. How do i apply this principle to the specific situation where my kids are arguing about a toy. That's deductive logic. Inductive logic is when you examine specific instances and then you fear is would general rules or principles may have caused them or can be drawn from them right. So for instance. When i am coaching and i say you know what we have to coach from the bottom up. We need to look at. What's your thinking. In these specific instances and then we can draw conclusion about a general thought pattern. You have great or inductive. Reasoning might be looking at the decisions. I've made that. I'm proud of as apparent. Let's say what are. The values are principles that i can draw from them. What are the values are principles. That had articulated. That are animating the way. I've been making those decisions right. So it's taking principle and applying into specific cases is deductive logic and looking at a bunch of specific pieces and abstracting like a principal or a value or rule. That explains them is inductive logic. There's not can be a quits. But i just want you to think about these two different ways of reasoning and if thinking right so that's all western philosophy. Obviously western philosophy is not the only philosophy so there is also eastern philosophy and these are huge generalizations. Right suite is a little more of like cohesive intellectual tradition. A lot of people really dispute the concept that there even is a category as eastern philosophy that that's sort of an idea that only an outsider would invent right that only a western person looking at the eastwood say oh eastern philosophy is one thing because in fact there are multiple different philosophical traditions coming out of cultures in quote unquote the east and those traditions have sometimes interacted with each other sometimes. Not but like don't necessarily have anything to do with each other and don't categorize themselves as being part of any kind of larger group called eastern philosophy so even the concept that is like an overall category is disputed but again. This is a podcast not a graduate semester. Long course so we can do a little broad generalizing here which just like. I did for western philosophy. So one of the main differences is that in many eastern philosophical traditions. The notion of the self is really an illusion rate in western philosophy. The notion of the self. It's often interrogated and we ask like what is the self. What constitutes the self. How do we know what the self is. But there is kind of a self most of the time gen all generalizations in eastern philosophy. It's much more common that the notion of the self in general is interrogated. Right is often that the self is an illusion it's created by our ignorance of the true nature of the world right. The illusion of the self is created by our human attachment to are the stories that are human mind tells us rate. In general people would say that eastern philosophy is often more collectivist and more focused on union and oneness with the universe writes. The goal is overcoming. The false separations and attachments at the human mind creates an eastern philosophies often also kind of more associated with particular eastern religions are spiritual traditions. There are of course. Western religious philosophies like christian philosophy theology sort of more separated from non religious philosophical concepts so eastern philosophy may have different approaches or styles. Explain the answers but one thing. You can see that the various traditions. i think. Ask some of the same fundamental questions. Which are what is the nature of reality right. What is the nature of the universe. What is the nature of man or humanity. How do we know what we know. Right how should we act and behave. How should we think about our lives. What are the values of society should be organized by. So what do you notice about these kinds of questions in either tradition right all of the various questions i gave you that different philosophical traditions might ask what you notice. What i notice is that they are all kinds of questions. That thought work teaches you how to think about an answer for yourself. Some people say there are three big questions of philosophy and those are what is knowledge. How do we know what we know. How can we know anything. How do we decide what is true or what to believe so one. Big one is knowledge. What is it the second big question. How should we conduct ourselves. What kind of people do we want be. How do we want to act. What kind of results do we want to create in the world and then the third big question of philosophy in this framework is how should we govern ourselves which should our social and political organizations look lake given the answers to those questions. Above what is knowledge. How should we conduct ourselves. How should we govern ourselves. Okay so now thinking about the kinds of questions. The thought work and self coaching asked to consider all the time questions. Like how do i know what's true. How do i know if a thought is true whether thought is true or not. How do i decide if i want to think it right. How do i want to choose to think. What do i want to choose to think in. Why what do i want to believe is true. And why how do i decide what i believe is true. How do i wanna act. What would i need to feel and believed to act that way. How do i want to interact with other people. What are my values. How can i think on purpose. So that i can act according to my values what kind of world do i want to create with my actions to uphold my values. Those are questions i ask. All the time and coaching calls their questions. That self coaching teaches you to ask yourself and those are the same questions. That philosophy is all about right. It's just that traditional especially western white male philosophy tends to consider them more in a vacuum. And that's what seems like a vacuum and that's partly because until the last fifty years or so straight western christian men were able to pretend with not much objection from anyone else. They had to listen to that. Their ideas and perspectives were just neutral and universal. I always think about this team. That i find hilarious. Which is i may not get it exactly right but it's it was basically it's a tweet and the woman tweeting. His like twentieth century dissertation here is like impeccably researched and detailed footnoted you know thesis based on seven years of study of an extremely niche question. I hope it's close enough too. Good to be okay. And then the second part is like seventeenth century philosopher and then his is are some universal and essential laws of nature that i came up with in the bath. They are irrefutable. A link it's just so real it's a why do we have endowed chairs in philosophy and not in self help drum roll you guessed it the patriarchy right in our society. Self-help is considered kind of feminine in hobby. Where's philosophy is the noblest of intellectual pursuits. So there are few reasons for that. I think you may have some other reasons. You come up with is what i've got. I our society genders emotions as female right. Women are supposedly more emotional. Women are supposedly more in touch with their emotions so any self development work anything that has to do with feelings other than the feeling of anger. Basically is inherently considered female or feminist. Second women are the ones socialized to always think that they are not worthy or valuable just for existing right. Men are socialized to believe often that they have inherent worth and importance while women are socialized to believe that they have to earn other people's approval and hustle for their own self worth. In centuries of christian religion dominating our cultural development in the west means that are social constructs have absorbed the idea that women are emotional and irrational and led to original sin. right we're inherently sinful and women are thus in constant need of improvement and correction in order to be worthy and good and if any of that far fetched to you. I just want you to go to the library and ask for any treatise on the differences between the sexes published between like five hundred of the common era and nineteen fifty. This is an incredibly common theme in western thinking about women that women like children are in constant need of guidance leadership improvement and correction by men in order to be good enough worthy enough sensible staying on the right path and that has filtered into women constantly believing that they need to be fixed. They need to be changed. They need help to become good enough people. And so the way that women pursue that is the sort of more quotidian daily focused and less prestigious and more accessible version of philosophy that we call sell a third reason. I think is that philosophy is framed as being very abstract very intellectual and men are assumed to be better at reason and logic and conceptual thinking and philosophy departments are still majority. Male and women in western society are associated with concrete the daily the details and logistics of life. The body men are associated with the mind so philosophies for men self-help for women now. Obviously there are exceptions to this. There are some famous mel coaches and famous women philosophers but we're talking about large scale cultural trends here and the philosophy industry and the coaching mimic those in that the best known philosophers still mostly male. The best known coach is still mostly male. Even though most coaches are women right a little bit of a side note but in any industry is predominantly women. Often the like the top few people known in the field will actually still be met because the top people known in almost any field are that again. These are generalizations right. But we're just talking about as a general matter. Why is philosophy considered this lake high intellectual high prestige esoteric. You know not relevant to daily reality ivy tower saying right like like the most useless thing you could study. Philosophy would be the stereotype and then self-help is considered like the daily practical version is considered sort of a feminine thing female hobby you know like kind of frivolous and shallow and silly endeavor by some people clearly not by me right. So what's so ironic. Is that so many of the people i think. In the mainstream intellectual class who criticized self-help coaching as being supposedly naive or self centered or frivolous are the same people who would say that philosophy and social and political theory are important worthwhile pursuits. And that we need those for changing the world and they're just missing the force for the trees or they're missing the trees for the forest. I don't know i'm not arborist years the point. This is what i want you to take away from. This self help is not silly. Self is not selfish self help is frivolous and it's not sort of narcissistic or navel-gazing or like just focused on you as an individual right. It's not self centered. Self help is deep and powerful transformative. Shit self-help is philosophy about what kind of world we wanna live in and how we know what is true and who want to be in the world thought. Work the way that i teach it in. The clutch is a combination of many approaches and disciplines. But the two biggest elements really while three one. I would say is is a sort of cognitive behavioral model. But even that builds on these other traditions and those two biggest traditions are not attachment and observation of the mind from buddhist traditions and radical questioning from socratic and greek philosophical traditions thought work grapples with the deepest most important questions. You can ask what is truth. And how do i know what's true right rather than just believing whatever i happen to think. How do i choose what to believe is true or real. How do i think on purpose. What is the good life right. what am i doing here. What is the point of my life. What kind of life do i wanna have. What kind of world do i wanna live in. How can i contribute to creating that world. What impact do i want to have on my fellow man. What do i want the world to look like. All of those are the deepest questions that humans can ask. That's what thought is all about thought about living your life with intention. That's what philosophy is about. It's thinking about how we know what we know how we want to behave what we want to believe how we want to act so the next time you're tells you that you should already know all the answers rate. Just imagine somebody being like. Well go to college or read any other philosophers know how to do this myself. Now right or tells you should be able to figure it out all yourself or silly to need support thinking through these things. Every philosopher in the world has worked on some of the same questions that you are thinking about and they usually do it with other philosophers and with teachers right if you think about socrates leading his band of students around and asking them questions is a long tradition every philosopher in the world. Pretty much has been in dialogue about these questions with their own teachers and their colleagues and the work of people who died at three hundred years before them right. It's an intellectual tradition that is. It's funny because i feel like the stereotype of the philosophers like sitting alone in a room. Thinking is like it's weird. Western male stereotype. That like the great thinker. Just ideas just bloom out of their head like with no other input but that's not actually how the world or brains work real philosophy is done in conversation and concert with other people thinking about the same questions you are and that's how thought work is done also how to live your life on purpose and what impact you wanna make in. The world are the most important questions a person can ask themselves. And that's the question. The thaw work is always nudging you to ask. That question is best asked and explored in community and in conversation. And that's always how it has been so forget the enlightenment gentlemen philosopher like sitting on the bluff in cornwall just thinking by himself or germany or wherever i say chicken philosophers in coop together talking about these things learning from each other. That is the new frontier. That is the philosophy. I wanna be a part of. So aren't you go forth. Think deeply click loudly my chickens and we'll see you in the clutch if you're loving what. You're learning in the podcast. You have got to come check out the clutch. The clutch is my feminists coaching community. All things on fuck your brain. It's where you can get individual help applying all these concepts i teach to your own life and learning. How did you thought work to blow your mind. It's where you can learn new coaching tools. Not shared on the podcast. That will change your life even more. It's where you can hang out and connect over all things thought work with other podcast chickens. Just like you and me. 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Model Chelsea Opens Up About That Hair Convo with Matt James

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Model Chelsea Opens Up About That Hair Convo with Matt James

"Welcome back happy our listeners and another week here with so much drama that went down and we continue to. I think just like not even see love stories in the show these days. It's all about the girls and the cattiness. Which rachel. I wanna take a second to say like. I don't even want to get into recaps. I don't even want to get into like major moments. Because i am right now so frustrated with what we saw go down last spanned on it speak on it beca and i feel like this is the first time that i walked away from an episode being so disheartened like i said so frustrated. I just feel like. I don't like what i'm seeing i like. I don't like the fact that they're of this is about. I understand that. There's going to be drama. But it's getting nasty now and it's getting to be too so dirty between these women with rumors circulating about somebody potentially being s for that could ruin someone's life and on the flip side we have been. I don't even wanna talk about victoria that much but i she's leaving such a bad taste in my mouth with all of her name calling that i'm like why i'm starting to question now why. Abc's choosing to show her continuously. Call these women sluts and horrors and hose because like this now. These words that people are seeing on the screen. I think feeds this narrative of like people other women other men young people watching the show. Think that that's okay to all women these names and i'm so frustrated right now. Yeah it's it's more like what. What kind of audience are you trying to attract right when you're highlighting when this person has as much of a stage as the lead itself who are you trying to attract to your audience. Is it a I'm confused. I don't even know who it is. I'm with you becca. It's very frustrating to watch There seemed to be great women on matt season. You know matt's great bachelor. Why are we giving victoria so much airtime. And it's like the antics. Just keep getting worse and worse. Like i swear to god she would have taken a crown off. My head. that boxing day would have happened right there in that room like you don't touch people like that. This is not funny. It's disrespectful man. I just i. I you know we started this. We were like we don't want to talk about her that much. And i don't want to give her that much and what. I do want our listeners. To realize is most people do seem to be fill the same way about Victoria were all katie in the situation. Right like we're all frustrated. We love the katie's like matt. I want you to approach. The women like take charge and get all of this situation because that is what leads should do. We don't want to see it anymore. I'm going to ask you a question that you're probably gonna be a little bit hesitant embarrassed to answer but bear with me. I'm going somewhere. How productive are you really alway. Think about it. 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Time so go to perfects next dot com slash bashar to stock up and say fifteen percent. The what you need to notice about victoria is she can't handle people that are strong. I i won't even let me not even give victorian that victoria's strong person. A strong person does not bulldoze over weaker people. They don't fully them. They don't take advantage of them. That's not what a strong person is has an insecure person. That is what we're seeing in victoria. It has gone beyond humor. It has gone beyond antics right. I mean and i don't want to see it. You don't wanna see it. We don't want to see it anymore. Like i know you guys can do better than this. You can give us a better narrative. There's more to see who cares if we have a boring season this. It's not like we have deer been you know what i mean who. His antics were ridiculous but he wasn't mean like over the top. It was obnoxious. Sure but this just hard and painful to watch honestly. You're not doing victoria any favors. Because she's becoming so hated whether this is her true personality or not. You know what. I mean i. It's just the most. I love katy approaching her her trying to come katie katie shutting down with katie challenged. Her victoria had nothing to say nothing to say. Honestly like like. I'm all for somebody like stir the pot and like give us something. It has crossed the line. I am so over victoria. I am ready for her to be gone. Like i don't wanna see anymore of her. And i also want to reiterate the fact words have weight and what you choose to how you choose to describe or use adjectives to describe people has weight and when you continuously tear down other women for no good reason just because you don't like them is not okay and we we've seen it with whole now the former leadership of the country where you use certain words and phrases that trickle down and they have this underlying effect that is nasty and not not and i'm ready for it to be gone like i've never walked away from this show where i felt like just this like sick feeling in my gut that i feel right. Now when i'm thinking about everything that i watched Well victoria can go. Imagine setup see the bullshit that's going on and like and like you said even like he needs to take more initiative even when he's giving interrupted by certain people like he he of course he doesn't know how to navigate this because he hasn't done it before but like he's four weeks in and like he just needs to stand his ground and and step up a little bit more a lot more. Yeah yeah come on. Let's let's let's create a new narrative year like we. We dealt with mean girls situation during peter season like come on. Let's let's bring us something. No we got. We got more more than this. We can do better than this. And hopefully we have a guest on today which is chelsea who. You're super excited to talk about it. A very very big moment in last night's episode and hopefully she can give us some insight on what it is that we're seeing because she was right there for her in the mix of all of this And i don't even like you said. I don't want to spend too much time on this. Recap you know own biggest thing i wanna highlight is a the credits. That's honestly really what. I what i came here to talk about the credits. The credits did you see the same mass where she's The unseen yes. i was like what is happening. What happens this is a sign of the times. This is the son was take talk dance. I was a king tiktok. Talk dad's about an unjust as bad about that. Dance as i am about victorian her antics. Oh gee now. I get us trying to make maggie fill comfortable. I get that you know. She said she liked dancing. You thought you know what. Maybe i'll do a little one to step boogie for her to get loosen up to get it or loosen up. Matt said i'm going to dance. I even know which talk dance. He was doing. I don't i don't i. it's it's it was a rash on but when he proceeded to do every trendy move was the sign of the time. What what what's wrong with us guys the proper thing to do and when you say what he finished she goes. That's all i got. That's all you got you and you were trying to court this woman. Grab her by the hand. That is exactly what i wrote down. She said she likes to dance. The proper the smooth the the like g. q. Rico suave may move charming movie like let me take you by the hand. Let me pull you in close. And let's just dance to the music that we hear in our half mama assume you ted talk dance for her i i it was it was bad or i would have said At this point. I would like to eliminate myself in the competition. Production is trolling matt. You should never shown us that fern by this moment fit. I wish i would've stopped it when the episode of it. I really don't even say racial. Don't stop watching. And i regret it. Oh i can't wait for this. Oh i i am so worried. What van laid them. My co host is going to say. Hey oh my gosh. Black twitter is gonna be all. I thought corden was a bad dancer. I think matt teams. You may have to go on and on about this. I was so upset One other thing that i wanted touch on okay to highlights and then we can get going with our guest. Obviously one was the conversation with chelsea and matt about her hair. We're going to have her on so we'll get it from her first. But another highlight that i wanted to touch on is the fact that Did you notice okay. So obviously five new girls are brought in one of those new girls got one date with matt which caused a rift between the women but on his one day with michelle. I feel like i saw a different side the him he was glowing like we have him have a connection quite like that i think with the other women and so it was refreshing to see because i feel like now i can finally start to see. Okay maybe he could see a partner here. Yeah yeah no i agree. He seems softer. He seemed lighter. She'd seems to bring out the best of him and he seemed to really be into her but not just in a physical way like obviously there's a physical attraction but he really seemed to be drawn to her and i think it says a lot that he gave her that data awful one conversation when these other women have been there for three weeks. So yeah the other women in the house. I would be like. Wow this is one we have to watch. I mean she just came in here and made an immediate impression on him. I like her what she's minnesota girl just like me so i knew i like to take. I was like that's my girl. So yeah i actually do like i. I hope we have ron at some point. Just because you know minnesota girls. But i like earth with that i mean i think we should just get into it unless you had any other highlights or anything that you wanted to get off your chest. We've been our while they're no. I know you know what the this moment takes me back to give it to me. I'm just as angry as when we had hannah and on and you said who's your dream person to have on the show and she said addison rae who at times. I had no idea who that was. And then of course. I went down. A deep dark hole researched her. I couldn't believe that your dream guest is tiktok star. You know what. I mean like this is. This is like dancing with the ticket. Hunting dancing stars. But it's like it's not a dance show you know. This is somebody i have. We heard house race. Speak past fifteen or thirty seconds. You know what. I'm saying that what i'm saying. Yes break was. That's bad do i can't get over. I close my eyes. And i see him dip angle so proud of himself he was very about. I think he thought he was gonna be like. Oh yeah love. That dance notion mackey was all of us make. I wouldn't have been so disappointed if i was. I literally was like my jaw dropped it. I thought it was a joke. And then he kept going. And i was like. Oh he's serious about this. Like i said i would have masked back no matter what I can't have your back on. This will teach them how to sell can have your back on this one. I feel like this is something. Saline i usually will see something that's like a defining moment with someone on like I know everything. I need to know about you. Dare i say i know everything. I need to know such talk. Dance seriousness. he Talk yeah yeah maybe. For all future seasons whoever picks the leads and get some prepped and ready to go we need to do like a little bachelor swooning chorus for these men. Can somebody out there. Please put a funny video together of him. Dancing to dislike the most outrageous random weird crazy song with those moves. I just wanna see it like yeah like you you wrong. You didn't read the room okay. The quarantine crew was not in the room. It was maggie and you were trying to impress her and you gave her a thirty second to talk dance. I can't and you know what that you know. You know what you know. 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That's purple dot com slash about ted so we are obviously a few weeks into the new year now and i hope i'm not the only one who's really trying to keep my resolution of getting healthy and sane consistent and motivated with my workouts but thankfully it doesn't rest solely on me because i have had the help of new and if you wanna get healthy and stay healthy you need to know more about how you make certain decisions neum gives you the knowledge tools and the confidence that you need to make strategic choices that turn into long-term habits and then those long-term habits turn into a happier healthier you knew is designed by psychologists but there's no scientific jargon or complicated stuff to remember because new makes learning easy with new you have a personalized coach. Who will help you understand yourself and your personal goals. More than eighty percent of numerous finished the program and more than sixty percent have stuck with their goals for at least one year. There's a science to getting healthier and it's called new so silent for your trial today at noon that's n. Oem dot com slash be h learn how to get healthier with neum again. You can sign up for trial today at noon and double o m dot com slash b. h. They'll say one more time in case you missed it. It's neum dot com slash p. h. chelsea. We are so thrilled to have you on again. We have another fan favorite icy like on the podcast today. So just to start out but we just want to check in with you. How are you doing. Welcome to the show. How have you been with this pandemic and going from filming and just fill us in on your life. Thank you Fighter to be here like meet. You meet you back. I've already met you rachel. yes. But i'm doing good. I mean modeling. Got really slow for obvious. Reasons when covid starter So i kind of took some time to go home to my mom's house in georgia five. Been there for the past couple months which was amazing and like something. I'd never be able to do again in my adult life So i took a bunch of time after filming and it was like hanging out with my family my niece and nephew and my parents and then i just got back to new york like a week ago. So you're right. Yeah there. I have to say. I did some digging on your instagram. And even even before the season started when we had all the cast. Bios rachel and i were raving about you that you are this incredible runway model and right before you came on. I told i told rachel that i was looking at all of your photos and like you are doing incredible things like you're just for anyone listening. Please check out. Chelsea's instagram because you aren't just like an instagram model. You are the real deal like huge brand deals. You're at fashion week like you're crushing it. Thank you. I'm definitely proud of it. I had some really cool things happen at the beginning of last year. I was on my first billboard hours ago. Aren't a pair for the first time like it was amazing so yeah i can't complain agency that have in new york and i was looking good stuff before covid things. Yeah i mean how does one. This is really far listeners. To because we were as. I said we were so into you. Just for reading your bio and i. I mean i'll admit i was i until you d ends me. I'm like oh my gosh. I have met her before but As you explained on this episode we saw last night. Like you look different from the last time i saw you in that it all came back to me and everything and we'll get into that but i think it's so i just love when people can change careers you know what i mean in the middle of whatever it is that they're doing and you went from corporate to the runway so a little bit about why you made that decision and then how you were able to make that decision. Because that's not something you can do lightly and so i'm sure there are other listeners. Who may be in the same space that you were in when you were in corporate trying to figure out if you wanted to step into something you're passionate about. Yeah for sure I've kind of always had in my mind that i really wanted to be a model since i was little. Used to watch america's next top tomato. When i was six ten and be like. Oh i'm definitely going to new york. I'm going to do that And then as far as my career. I went to the university of georgia and i got my degree impassioned merchandising so either way i was planning on moving to new york arm so when i first moved here i was working in corporate. I was working. I buying office in deciding what products in the stores. But it was always tugging at the back of my mind like i was like. Oh i really want to be modeling. I'm here like i try to do it in my spare time like i'll go to a casting call here and there so ostra couple of years working corporate. I was kinda just like. I didn't like the company i was at and i was like okay either way this specific role but i could either get a new job or i could try to start monitoring and like go full on so oh i just quit my job at like you know. There's a ton of agencies in new york one of them is bound to side is my thought process Obviously had the money saved. I was like not during this just blindly but yeah after couple of months of hunting and like trying to find the right agency in the right fit i signed with two agencies with now and then started working more consistently and yeah really worked out. Well it seems like it from everything that i saw on your age. It seems like everything is going very well. Hopefully more to even come once everything kind of goes back to normalcy in the vaccination is around for everyone but speaking of you know just jumping in and it's a totally different. Obviously you have been on the show. Now we've seen him for the past four weeks first off. I want to say your dress on night. One was stun nin like hands down favorite dress. Probably one of the favourite dresses. I've seen come through the entire franchise like you wore that dress. It was incredible. You're the only one who could be want to back dress didn't you. And maybe this is just me. I need all the help. I can get in dressing myself. Was that something like you shopping. Four did did you like work with the designer. Like how did you find that threat. Yeah So i was shopping for a a month or so leading up to filming trying to figure out what i wanted together And then i thought his name is. And i actually walked for him in new york late like two or three times But he's amazing and he. When i first met him was fifteen. Somebody walked the video. He was fifteen men Look he was on project junior he's like a prodigy And so i thought of him. And i was like. Oh my god. I wonder if they'll let me borrow down for the show Couldn't really say what i was doing. But i was just like. Hey i have a thing. borrow gal. He's like yeah. Of course so. I was like deciding between the one i chose and then a couple that had bought which i ended up weighing later in the row ceremonies. That you've seen so far but Yeah it was like reichel i left. I was like. I think this is the one in the league off there and everyone was like freaking out like thank god i was. Yeah what made you wanna come on the show. And how did you get involved with in the first place. Yeah mean. I've been a fan for awhile. Like i used to watch the show with my mom but honestly i really never thought i would be on it myself. But when they announced it was matching. That's pretty much what it was for me. Like i was like oh i would actually date him if i ran into him in new york so i really apply because it was matt and also with covert and everything with modeling being kinda slow and i was like i was also at home with my mom during that During the time i applied. And i was just like you know what like. Let's just see what happens. I think that's great. I think it's great. So let's get into your you being on the show. You know now that our listeners know a little bit more about you and how you you know you got to where you are on the show last night we saw. You have a conversation with matt which i loved. I snatched my wiggles just for this interview. Conversation you have. This is a true story. I said you know what. I'm not gonna we're gonna talk about hearing we'll talk about hair I we don't get to see while back a lot of the conversations. I still like. We've been able to see in the seasons that have been during covid have been very meaningful because you're not traveling route from place to place him back and i've talked about this so you're kind of left with nothing but conversation which is great. Because you're trying to figure out if you're going to potentially marry this man or woman whoever's lead and when you applied for the show you had longer hair and then i believe you cut it off during quarantine. Yes i did. It would have been During the summer okay during the summer and so now you come on the show looking absolutely stunning standing out like nobody else can truly but you sit with matinee showing pictures of herself to show. You're sitting with managed pictures of yourself to show what you look like you know before you cut your hair off and you explain to him why you did that and how you used to fill before and maybe some insecurities that you may have failed and basically the black woman struggle and i loved that this conversation was on air and i just want to know from your perspective because i'm sure that was probably a little nerve racking for you to talk about because you didn't know how it was gonna receive it and you don't know how the audience is going to see it so if you can please take us through that thought process of why that was so important for you to have that conversation about black women and their hair. Yeah i just think that as women especially as laugh women like so much of our self worth is tied to our hair. And i don't if a lot of people realize that are understand that especially as far as black woman go And i mean it was just a really big deal to me. So that's obviously something that i wanted to share with somebody that i you know potentially going to end up with my partner And i think also so many people like i like i said i've watched the show since i was younger. And they're having been that many black contest ends or how does have been a black bachelor lead. Nobody's going on there talking about their hair journey. And i think that some people might have hopefully don't anymore but might see as trivial because it's like. Oh it's just hair. And like even while i felt like that like i felt like it wasn't important enough for me to bring up like two people or it wasn't like a big enough of an insecurity to be like valid And then it wasn't until i shaved it all like i decided to shave it off that i realized how important was and how much of an effect it had on me because it was just such a liberating variance to be like. I'm going to let that go. i'm here and i'm not. I don't need hair to be feminine Hair beautiful be like attractive to men like it's just touch liberating thing. Now i feel like i just feel even more like myself even though i've never shaved head but somehow i feel more like myself without hair. So oh no it's it's it's really. It's it's such a. They're going to be so many black women who are going to reach out to you about being brave enough to have that conversation because far listeners. What you don't understand with with black women in the pressure. There's a lot of pressure for us to fit a european european standard of beauty and that means assessing our hair straightening are here wearing extensions wearing wigs. And we've been programmed for so long. That are natural. Beauty isn't beautiful and it is and here you are in your natural state yourself as a black woman and showing that that's beautiful and it is beautiful and i i want you to talk a little bit too about matt's response to what you said because i thought it was great. Yeah i when. I was showing pictures. He's like i think he looked beautiful. Both ways obviously grazing for guy to say But he was really receptive to it. And i feel like just based on our kind of things on from a like little suburb in georgia. He's from like somewhere similar in north carolina and we both grew up in places that were predominantly white. Our schools were predominantly white. So i just felt like it was nice to know that he could relate and he also said that he like he used to have a he shaved it off and that people said he was more approachable afterwards. And it's just like even black men have the same issues with when it comes to hair but it was. It was really nice. I love to his recruiting the gone better in my in my head. Why planet but yeah like you said. I was kind of like nervous to bring it up but and can i just good about it and and for the listeners to why is also probably scary for you to to go in there and have that conversation is because there is also. I've experienced this. I don't want to speak for you. I don't know if you have but where there a lot of black men who put that pressure on you as well to have your hair looking a certain way and so you might not have known how matt was going to respond to that and he responded in the best way girl he open nine kissed you which is like we said station. I was like chelsea. Doesn't get this group day rose. Something's not adding up here. Have you guys heard the salary hair by lady gaga. She's like. I'm as free as my hair martha after because i feel like this india. Are- has has i am not. My hair is just a moment. We'll and i will say to. Especially i mean like obviously i'm a white woman. I grew up in a predominantly small white town in minnesota and. Yeah it wasn't really until like getting to know. Rachel better and talking to you a little bit more about your hair and how you changed it for different shows that i think it's plain along to what you're saying is like it's such a good conversation to have for people who don't even know what women in general have to go through but then black women like. I hope that anyone watching that conversation last night took something away. You know in a good way to be like. Oh my gosh. i didn't even think about. How much do you put into your hair and how it makes you feel a certain way so kudos to you. I love that you say you feel more like yourself now. Like that's for any woman to say that it's such a beautiful thing. I wanna know because obviously that's a scary thing to share on a date with somebody you know. You probably don't lead on a first date with that kind conversation. Let alone leading it on national television in front of millions. Was there any part of you. You know obviously this was filmed a while back but knowing that it was going to air in this moment. Was there any part of you that that was nervous or hesitant or you dislike. This is me. And i own it. And i can't wait to share this with the world Obviously i mean. I'm a little when any episode airs. Because i'm like i don't know but for this specific thing i was really excited for air just because I feel like. I've gone through the emotional work already myself to get to this point. Stow right now. Where i'm at. I'm just excited to celebrate it and other people know about it. I'm not nervous about it anymore. I i can't hide. I just walk around probably like okay. Here's my shaped head. So i was more excited for for everyone to see and like i said i used to watch the show and like i never imagined this compensation anger anyone being on. You're talking about it so like a little black girls at home that can relate. I'm happy that you know resonate with them. And then like even everybody else like my white friends or anybody that you know. That's just like never had a thing about these things like. I'm just happy that everyone can see it. You guys know at the start of every year. We all do it. We set these new year's resolutions to improve our lives and our present year and be better than we were before in the prior year. Listen and i do it as well so in sticking with that i have said that my word for twenty twenty one is to be better and there's certain things that i want to improve this year and i want to improve on my stress. I want to just improve my sleep. And i wanna improve on releasing things in managing those things in my everyday life. We all know that stress is unavoidable. But it is imperative to your health and happiness to be able to manage that stressed and not be managed by. That's the word right there. 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We have a special league set up specifically for our listeners. So just go to bachelor newcomb dot com and get fifty percent off. That's right fifty percent off your thirty day. Subscription of newcomb and their money back guarantee that's bachelor in c. a. l. m. dot com bachelor in yoon c. a. l. m. dot com. Can i ask you one more question. Because i just had. I'm such an animated person. I had this vision that you was just sitting in a room during quarantaine in like where you staring at yourself in the mirror and you just took the desserts and you just did the big shaath or did you take the razor and you just go back and then you're like oh my god what did i do and i have to keep going or did you just simply make an appointment and go to for the up okay. Here's what happened. I am really badly doing my own hair. So i'd be going to the hair salon like every two weeks for my lady. That i trust now so i let her handle warranty been my hair slums closed. I didn't have anyone to my hair. I was just like you know what forget this. I'm gonna shake it off. So i bought some clippers on amazon. And i shaved it off my bathroom with remain with your roommate. Yes she also picked. You should post pictures of. Are you already have and i might not know but yeah like that's that's awesome. I loved that the back and we share from the bathrooms. Oh my gosh. i would've loved to see this yet. Pictures video footage. Whatever you have to share with us. 'cause i'm sure to check it out So going back to this conversation with matt you said. He responded in the best way possible for that conversation. But what is it in general that you're most attracted to with matt. I really like that. Matt is super genuine and are said to him many times but like he just doesn't matter who he's talking to or like even when i saw some of his other relationships with the other girls like sounds weird to say but you could tell just how genuine he was and how president he always was like. I'm sure as you and rachel both know how hard is it. Must be to be the leader and he was just always so president with each and every one of us and like made us feel so great So yeah he just seems all taken genuine and present over time and that's like something. I don't take for granted. Ask all the girls this and we always talk about him. You the is open. How is he as a kisser. I ruined says he is good. I just want some dirty late juice one of these days. I david i'm going to general consensus sir. I just asking this question Okay let's talk about some people who don't come across as genuine said matt is genuine. Let's just let's take sharp left turn so last week. Bachelor nation was up in arms and not about matt not specifically about sarah but about the group of women in the house except for katie people routine katie On you have usually receive a lot of demands about like mess like rachel. Are you gonna call this personnel or rachel. Shut your mouth. You talk too much. It's like one extreme. Or the other. But i received a lot of dm's about bullying k. That was the the word which is another word. People in batch nation love to use a lot but the word was bullying and it was mainly in reference to the conversation that the group of women had with sarah it was like the house versus air. You were there you were in the middle of it. I would love to hear your take on what happened. I mean i don't know how long conversation was Beyond look look really bad. Yeah i'm in. It obviously was a longer conversation Than wish shown it to our episode or that was days of of What we're trying to say it was days of conversations that have been. It was all joan in like a ten minute couch combo. I think that bullying is not word. People should be using so lightly. I don't think that's what was happening personally from where i was sitting I think it was more the rest of the house trying to figure out what was going on from there and you know. We obviously weren't aware of the conversation that she had with sarah with katie upstairs. We only knew about her interrupting. The group day in her election needed to talk to matt So it was more of us trying to get information. I can't speak for any of the other roles. Gut dots where i was coming from with. It did anyone other than keady. Try at any point in that week when they kind of knew you know. Sarah was in her head hiding in her room and potentially wanting to go home Yeah anyone else tried to approach her and have a conversation. 'cause i think for the viewers and at least for me personally it was really. I think the the part that was hard to swallow was up. It felt like one against everybody and we did see the conversation with katie private separate. Which i wish that more girls would have done and maybe we just weren't privy to that. But did anyone else tried to pull her aside or have a conversation with her. I actually don't know the answer that I wasn't really super close. Sara so i personally didn't speak to her individually but there might have the gross. I did but it definitely wasn't wasn't malicious it. Didn't i know it didn't come off looking still great on tv It never does when it's a group against one person but it wasn't an attack. We were very much trying to attack the problem. Not the i said. Yeah and i mean sarah's a crier right so like it's hard to win all those people are saying something and then she's crying and you know it the whole presentation just look off in and listen. I'm no stranger to calling people out myself. I just think it s more like you know maybe if people pulled her to the side. And i think maybe what was the nellon. The coffin was i. What's the blonde curly haired girls. Name and mj. And i think with an element. Kaufman was was when nj when she tries to pull if jason beside him jay was like. Nah i and it was like oh. Gosh that was it for her and she didn't have anybody. I mean i guess you thought m. j. was for one friend jay was like nah not today not today sarah but okay and i think i wanna try stay along this theme of like what i have written down in my notes as the mean girl mob. Okay not saying you're mean girl just there just seems to be. It's not you okay. So i just wanna to be particular. It just seems that that is the theme that is trying to or the narrative that is trying to be pushed here. Okay not. I'm not calling you out. It just seems like there's like we saw during painter season two. I don't know if this is something new. I don't like it if it is because all of peter's girls seemed to get along quite well but we saw that there was like this mob of mean girls in seems here we are getting the same thing again and so obviously the drama didn't end last week. You want sarah left. We see a new crop of girls. Come in there so much drama truly. That went down last night. Between what i guess everyone's calling the oggi's or the varsity squad versus the new girls and for you. You seem like you're still a bit removed from the drama. Email like there. There are few people in the show who are like very much stirring the pot in the drama causing drama. Like name calling. You don't happen to be one of them but of course like you are part of the. Og group you've been there since night one and so. What were your thoughts whenever when everything went down when the new girls came in and then the rumors that was circulating about britney when she was there So when the girls came. I was like diversity hours lau what regarding roads. You can just came back sick martini swirling if you wanna how. I was very very happy. That i a rose at that time but obviously i mean just my character. I'm not somebody who tries to insert myself and drama. I'm very much like do you worry about myself. So when new girls came. i'm kinda like they. They didn't choose this. I think if they had chosen they probably would have wanted to come in at the same time as us so i had no issues with them. I wasn't holding anything against them. I was kind of just like hey. I'm chelsea like welcome and that that wasn't you're saying i mean i'm like i can't control that. I'm not going to be upset about it. I'm just gonna keep trying to focus on myself and my relationship with matt so there does. Oh do you want to follow them. Sorry so there does seem to be this narrative this ongoing narrative that they're a bunch of mean girls which i've noted as the mean girl. Not saying you're apart you are. I mean girl. It's just. We saw it last year with peter season. Now we're seeing it again in matt season and i don't know as viewers people aren't really a fan of it. You know people don't really want to see that because the beauty of part of this journey is also the friendships that you have. I get it If i had been one of the originals. And i saw new girls. And that's tough that's paradise you sign up for that impaired. You sign up for that on the bachelor. It's it's tough. It's tough to see by the way. If you're friends with hannah please let her know that stands for original gangster. And i said oh god hannah an i was like. Who's him would say i. I'm gonna stick with hannah. Because she said original girls she she got and a cd. No apologies anna. Anna anna There's this there's this scene where it's you guys are on the nighttime portion of groups a and it seems like m j and Is it just any a-. Yeah m j just you katie or all sitting there and you're talking about Pipers well and you're talking about the women who are the new the new girls and you're kind like lasting and the girls are like. Mj's kinda talking about you know where the varsity and they're them and you're laughing and it just paints this whole narrative of like this mean girls and i just like maybe want you to give some context behind what it was. We were watching in that scene because it was tough. It plays into this narrative that we're seeing on matt season. Yeah i mean. I'm not a fan of an either and i. I really don't think it's accurate. I think what you're seeing. What everyone seeing is just us trying to process what's happening like this isn't the day after we got there and there's girls coming in like we've already form relationships with matt was mardi form relationships with each other. It's also just a lot just being in this isolated bubble you'll have your friends and your family like there's a lot going on and we were just we're just talking like about a new girls are coming. You know it's like a. I don't know i don't wanna say threat but it's just like it just it just it was defeating because it felt like we were going somewhere. You know. we're moving along. We're getting a little bit more time to spend with mad. There's less girls roaster ceremonies or happening and then it just felt like five steps back because it's like okay. People that we had with since the beginning went home last week at midnight. We have five more so it was just. It was just a lot. What did you think about katie's point though because obviously katie was taking the way that the audience sees it and katie kind of stands up to you guys and his like listen you know but they are here so we all kind of have to get along and it almost makes think like we'll how would you feel. It's not those girls fault. They had to stay longer. You know. I'm sure they would have loved to have been there the first night you know. They're kind of at a disadvantage coming in You know not at the beginning not knowing what you guys have with matt So what did you think about. Katie has to say in that moment because she seemed to be the only one thinking that yeah i mean. I don't think she was the only one that. I think that that was kind of where i stood as well like i wasn't holding anything against the new girls. I tried to be as welcoming as i could. I understood that this wasn't a situation that they wanted to be and they didn't choose it And again i was just trying to focus on my relationship with matt what i could control and you know i wasn't i didn't go. I went out of my way to be nice to them. Because i i didn't i didn't want them to feel ostracized. I put myself in their shoes and came in it just the no matter how incompetent you are it's hard. It's just tough to come into the group of women and be lake okay and here and everyone hates me like it's just. It's hard to do so. I tried to be like like you guys can talk me whatever like i'm not yes i was here first but like somebody that you can't come now rigging somebody's off their head right. Which is which is a similar assault. Not my style. Legally is the definition of simple assault. I just want to put that into. And i would ask anyone that we any guests on On the podcast. But obviously we have you this week victoria. And and i've said a lot about her in my recap with rachel priority. Coming on but victoria at this point like it's not even entertaining. She's not funny to me. She's not enjoyable to watch. I have so many thoughts on her but it seemed like from what we saw. Katie was the only one who had ever called her out and stood up to her and said anything but watching all of this go down and and her behavior just like continuously tears women down over and over in her actions in her words. Like did anyone else other than katie. Stand up and say. Hey you're in the wrong or you shouldn't say this you shouldn't be doing this like look at it from a different way. Did anyone else call victoria out on any of her bullshit. Yeah it wasn't just katie. Like batory anything to me or to. I don't know any any of us that we didn't feel with cool. Like i had no problem calling her out a sound with the other girls. Yeah it just wasn't. I don't know i think maybe she didn't specifically come for certain people that she knew salute back. I alleys -solutely. She didn't come from me because she knew that probably wasn't a good idea. Absolutely nail on the head. She goes after who she can. She can fill does over by may of a mean girl in high school. Yeah i i personally. I have no problem with viktoria i. I agree with many things that she said. I love but i don't. I don't think she person. I think she just she is. She is a lot to say about her. So last week though we had katie on the podcast and and we played a little game with her and she had mentioned that you were actually one of the funniest people that she knew in the house. And so how did you manage throughout all of this craziness and the drama and the new girls coming and people going into tears and the name calling. How did you manage to still stay. Positive still have this funny attitude in such a stressful environment. And how did you manage to like. I mean you. You say you don't want to get involved in other people's business but still stay out of that drama. Because i feel like it's like right now just this black hole sucking everyone in I mean i have always been such a girls girl. Like i wasn't in a sorority or anything but like mine girlfriends that i have from high school and college or like the world to me. So i'm just. I love hanging out with other amazing beautiful strong powerful women so i was just kinda focusing on that and like are spending time together. We weren't on dates and stuff And just like building a friendship. And then i was journaling. A lot to get all my feelings out stay sane But yeah that's i don't know i'd like to hear myself with these positive persian So i was kinda just trying to focus on myself. Try to stay away from the the crazy drama. I knew it's kinda like it'll pass. That was my mind to hear as you really stern crazy in the hotel to go outside and take walks and be in nature and get fresh air the actual house that we were saying i was so beautiful and like i don't think they've shown the backyard too much but it was just like a huge pool jacuzzi in like we could walk a little bit And then just the scenery with it being like fall and pennsylvania like So if i were. I felt like too crazy i would just go for a walk outside or something But it wasn't. It wasn't too bad. I i heard by mansion is a little more tight so i was grateful for what we had mentioned. Sucks don't you think you miss anything by being but by not saying the bachelor mansion regular old old house. Water doesn't work the hot. Yeah so you part i would have rather been inimical but then i would have wanted to leave and try. That sorry ought to get to experience. That i am glad to hear that you guys got along. That's nice to hear i. We had abigail on the show and she said you guys are friends so it's nice that there is a friend group because i was gonna say are are y'all even friends. Do you follow each other. Is the group chats. The group chat even exist eight. Doesn't y'all have a group shot. Okay let's say well we know you talk about it. All the time on the podcast. There's chat yeah we know you do. There's no shame man. I adore some of the girls. who who. who were you close to sweat and room with. So ileana was a and he went at the second rothera money so that was her go and then piper Abigail that's who. I was anybody who has close within the house. Then rachel rachel to isla. That's good i mean. Listen we love to see. How do you think you would have done on the boxing day i wait. I wasn't really on the today. Did you know my partner decided to take a knee. We who's reported was who was that. Mj all talking mj's doing and she don't have any hands to back it up. She arc and okay right. She does not believe in fighting honestly like the. We were all kind of uncomfortable with the date. Because it's like just the idea of it like okay. A bunch of women are gonna go fight over a guy like that was kind of like to me. Y'all do day that's what you sign up for just finding every day every day basically hitting people in like over either it was look Yeah mj decided. She didn't want. If i and i was the one she was supposed to fight for them by default item. Five either. were you happy. Were you ready to get some aggression out now. I was not. I didn't want to fight. I'm not a fighter. I don't find what have been like next. I have somebody. I'm surprised that they didn't like i. Thought that the production someway somehow was gonna pit. The the oggi's is you guys. Call himself with the new girls like which i'm glad they didn't that thank goodness that ended terribly like terribly. Somebody would have been going to the hospital but back. Yeah i'm surprised. I feel like they're pulling out all the stops this season. So it's like f- feel like that would have been fitting so so far. What are we in week four. I wanna to say what are you without giving too much away but still giving us some sort of t- what are you most excited for the audience to still see the season I like someone who has been previously in the audience. Like i love. People see the love stories. Like i'm excited for the audience to stop seeing the drama for that to go away and he people actually get to see us having conversations with matt as having good conversations with each other like i want people to see the romance too ask. We want the love story. Not the drama. Yeah i live absolutely Okay we're down to our last. Which i this is back is questions. Always pass the baton to her to ask. I bet you ever want to ask you. You know it's like beca. it's really cute. Becky you came up with it. I have my mind. You came up with that. So i'm always like back i don't did. I'm giving it to us so chelsea. We always ask every guests that we have on. What was your rose. And what was your thorns. Thus far in this season so basically you're highlight and your low light that we've seen or maybe we haven't seen that you that you just really enjoyed her. Hated Learn i think that would be the first groups eight with the wedding dresses and the capture. The heart Because i was already so uncomfortable. Like obviously i've never been on a date with that many people before it was like the biggest group date and bachelor history So i was just super uncomfortable. All around. I'm not like a person who goes out of their way to try to like stand out when there's plenty of other big personalities in the room like my mentality is kind of like okay. Well if you want me like. I'm here i'm not gonna be extra trying to get. Somebody's attention so. I was just super comfortable and they had to go in the woods and it was so cold and then my team lost. And we're gonna get to get time with matt. So that was that was one that was being north and then my rose would be getting the group date roads like that was a great day. And then i'd love having my conversation with matt and you know getting the validation and in open i'd kiss girl that's i you know. He's still the deal chelsea. It's been so great to talk to you. I mean we were definitely on the top of our list. One of our favorites. And you're just as great if even better in person so thank you so much for stopping by happy hour. We can't to see what else happens. The bar you go not looking forward to the drama or your friends with the escort what a slide that is there you know. I've eight ounces. It's great for her out if even if it's true don't bring that up you don't believe it's it is so outrageous. I don't even care if it's true. It's just like wow. If that was a rumor that was started about me and please give perspective on this chelsea. 'cause you were right there. If that's a rumor that was started about me. How do you get past that. Do you know what i mean. Like the moment those words are spoken. You know that that is going to be your entire air that even before the show is aired. You know th that's going to happen chelsea with the inside scoop from inside nimmo colon one happened. I mean it was definitely a tough spot to be an especially. When you know britney had just got into the house there was already. Og versus whatever drama. And then she got that thrown into the mix too so a. I don't envy her. It was it was a hard to be but yet she ends up like a champ she answered for. I don't know what was harder waiting in quarantine those extra days only to go home van at the roast shared. Aronie that night or what happened to britney. That's your name right. We'll threat really britney because now it's going to stick with her for the rest of her life and let's be honest bachelor nation fans and people like who are so into the show like that's all they're going to remember her as it so sad. It's like that should not have been any sort of story line it. It shouldn't have been at all. But i guess we'll just have to wait on see next week. What happens with that but yes chelsea. It has been an absolute pleasure having you on. Thank you for joining us at bouncer. Happy hour hopefully. We can have you back one day eight. I'm so happy. I got to be here and talk you guys. Oh chelsea i like her. I liked him screen. 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Settling Thoughts | Bhante Bodhidhaja | 14 September 2020

Buddhist Society of Western Australia

1:26:54 hr | 3 months ago

Settling Thoughts | Bhante Bodhidhaja | 14 September 2020

"The following presentation was recorded at the newberry. Buddhist monastery victoria australia. Please visit our website at nba. M dot org dot a u. Good evening from new buddhist monastery for another meditation or monday. Meditation that we do together as we alive at the moment. So if you are listening or joining a bit further down the track. You're able to ask questions if you like On the live chat and We will try to answer those as well as we can wants to. Meditation is finished so for people who are new. Today's the format is usually that we do a short introduction mainly about meditation. Because we're going to be meditating afterwards together and then there is a meditation which is guided partially. But there will also be quite long stretches of silence for you to just carry on with your meditation for about forty five minutes. And i'll ring the bell and we will see if there are any questions to be answered. And then we try to ensemble so lost while yesterday actually on sunday my now is giving the talk. We had so many questions and there were so there was quite a lot of material that i wanted to present as well so it was quite a long talk and the first question was actually a question at all star can can you please tell us in short and the path tony barna but i just thought about it for a minute and well much shorter and gave gave a quote from john jars so i thought maybe i can spend a little bit more time on that question because it is a good question and very often what happens is that people wanna have like one on sir or one thing you have to do just three easy steps and you will be fully enlightened if it were that easy the would have told us so the very kind and very compassionate so he gave us the shortest route and the shortest route if as the eightfold path and it has many many factors. But if you want to break it down it's basically about seila. Which is where true about meditation that we're going to focus on today tonight. And about a which is wisdom so c lies being a virtuous person. And if we do that if we behave. And if we think if we talk in a nice way in a virtuous way then we feel good about ourselves and that will help us to calm our minds later. Down the track in meditation. Meditation is something which will be happening much much more naturally because if we have regrets or if we have done things wrong before they kind of follow us around and it's not that easy to put things down when we try to sit down and meditate so it is like the foundations that have to be laid first of all before we build a house so that sealer and then we have samadi. That's the stillness of the mind that we will be cultivating tonight together. And then once you have put walls up then you can start putting the roof on the building. You can't put the roof just kind of on the ground so it has a certain sequence there and through that stillness through the happiness that increases through the clarity of the mind an it is possible to see things as they really are and if we have the five hindrances operating and that's the job of the meditation to remove those then we can see it if the five hundred dollars are still there then. We can't actually see. What is there. Then we are seeing the world through a filter than we're seeing the world in a distorted way so we have to first be able to take those filters take does glosses off so to speak. And that's the purpose of meditation to remove them and then we have the wisdom that wisdom very naturally then we behave in the right way because we see the world in the right way so we need a little bit of wisdom in the beginning we need inspiration and we need motivation that we want to do these things. Then we start to practice and the virtues and that will lead to that calmness clarity to see the world in the right way. Okay so. I hope i could gem give a bit more meat on the bone for that question from yesterday and i hope the person is joining us tonight or will be joining the meditation later down the track to hear an answer which is a bit more tips so for tonight. I chose a little part of a ceuta and that comes from the terra cotta. So that's the verses of the senior monks there is one for the monks and there is one collection for denounced so this is from the monks and this one is attributed to con- danya. That's the he was one of the five disciples of the buddha. Who heard i talk. That don machaca poetry masuta and he got it. He understood what this is all about and that this poem is about him. And his attainments. And i'm not gonna read the whole thing but i thought the first three paragraphs there are quite nice so if you want to find it In the live chat there should be a link for you if you watch this or two this after that. So it's a number fifteen and it's the first one in the book of the sixteenth. There's actually i think just one in that chapter anyway. So and it goes as follows. My confidence grew as i heard the teachings so full of flavor this passion is what was taught without any grasping at all. There are so many pretty things in this wide open land day. Disturb wants thoughts. It seems to me attractive provoking lust. Just as rain. Clouds would settle the dust blown up by the wind. So thoughts settled down when seen with wisdom right so it hopefully also reflects a little bit what. I was talking about Yesterday and just before so. We are developing confidence in the teachings and then that kind of contentment. That i was talking about yesterday that i want to focus a little bit more during the session of meditation as well and one of the kind of big obstacles for people in meditation often as the thinking process and in this poem it so nicely and put their that. It is like the rain. You have this dust that is blown up by the wind but once the rain comes then it falls on the dust and it settles you down. The thoughts settled down as well. And if we are meditating in the right way the thoughts are going to settle as well so we can't stop thinking But we can encourage the thinking to go in the right way or we can perceive it in the right way and not add anything to it and then it will very naturally kind of run out and settle all by itself so we are just watching. We are witnessing without getting swept up by the thoughts that are arising and without especially getting invested in them or trying to kind of interfere with them. So i wanted to kind of give you two examples to understand this process a little bit more in terms of not meditation but in terms of what might have happened to you in day to day life as well so after i finished Teacher training college. I was working as a teacher Had a first grade Or had kids from the first grade. And i was sharing a flat with five other people that also left the border left. The teacher training college But they were already teachers for quite a while a. m. Were with me at that school because to whole kind of program there was for five years so we met each other in that process and we we were still quite young. You know so there. It was a three bedroom house or a three bedroom apartment and there was five of us living in it and but we all had our own room because one of the rooms was to really really big. It wasn't an old house and old houses usually have huge rooms and very high ceilings so that was very very nice and we also had like another room which was kind of downstairs where we could have our washing machine and we kind of put in a little bit of work so one person could stay in that room and there as well because we wouldn't do the washington there so we managed the five of us to live in three bedroom house. But i was living in. That big room had a very very thin wooden kind of Wall what do you call it a plywood. I think it is when you. Just mix The woodchips together and you know there is a wall but you can hear pretty well and next door or in that same room on the other side of that wall was one of my friends. She was living there and she had her boyfriend visiting at that time. And i was lying in my bed and they were over over on the side and i. I just didn't want to really hear what they're saying to each other. Because i felt look. That's that's not really my business and it's the same thing with thinking so you have these thoughts that come along and you can develop a similar attitudes to those thoughts. So what actually happened is that was quite interesting. I mean you can hear something in the background at times and if you pay attention to it like if it's a voice or something you can understand the meaning of that but you can kind of switch so say you're listening to a piece of music if it's an english usually you would listen to the english if you're an english speaker and stand the meaning of the words but if it's in another language it just kind of become sound it's maybe sounds now. I saw whatever but you. You don't extract meaning out of it and in laying in that bed. I remembered that experience quite clearly. Because i was able to tune out of the meaning of what was going on next door so i would here to sound but i wouldn't assign any meaning to it so that i would kind of hear what's going on and that happened to me a second time when i was an exchange student in new zealand and i went over to new zealand And we started staying with my Host family over there and switched to english in my brain and there was another exchange student. She traveled with me at the same. Time from switzerland's as well and she was one or two villages standard track and close to main and then one day she called me up on the phone. So i picked up the phone and i answered in english and all that and she started to talk to me in swiss german. Swiss german is is not my first language but my second language into one. I use the most but i was so switched onto english that i didn't make sense to me. What you're saying so it's like saying in english. Excuse me sorry. Wonder what are you saying. And it took me a little while to kind of realize he was talking swiss german and then i kind of made that switch and then i understood so try and see if you can do something similar with the The thinking process when it does arise. So it's there. It's like a sound which is there. You're not trying to get rid of the sound. But you just kind of like phasing it out or in deep personalizing it or as john says knows. I mentioned before having this mantra in your mind none of my business not is not the time to to kind of get involved or get invested into it right and if we do that then our mind can kind of become like the lotus that they often talk about as well which whatever you pour onto it. It just kind of drips off for like liked the ducks back. They say as well so the water doesn't stay on it a touches it but it just rolls right off and then basically disappears. It doesn't stick and it's the same with space. There is like a simile into ceuta. Where to put is saying. It's like drawing into space or onto space. You can't really do that. You can draw into sand and it will stay there for a little while but then wants to elements com or room because it's on a beach to water will come and wash it away. If you draw into water you will get a little bit of a kind of a but disappears very very quickly and if you draw into the air it doesn't even leave a mark. There is a movement but it's just happening at the time and then it disappears so the only way to capture these kind of things is when you sometimes take those long exposure pictures. You have someone with a torch and day random. Write something in the air and then you can actually see the word because you are putting the exposure much much longer but if they just wave that torch at nighttime it will just you know. Draw a line in its reichel so we can have attitudes towards our thoughts. That is very very similar okay. Let's let's leave it at that. We can do the other part. I had in mind and other time. And let's switch to meditation now so please find a comfortable position to get your body in. If you haven't done that racine find a place a space where you feel safe under these and then once you put your body in a comfortable position then you can close your eyes if that's okay it can also have them slightly open but if you are comfortable closing them all the way. It's a nice thing to do because that also kind of signals to our body that we're not trying to get out there into the world anymore receiving information so with our eyes we can close our eyes. We have eyelids with our ears. We don't really have eludes. And if you have to the earbuds in your ear so you will hear me talking every now and then unless you switch me off for the guided meditation and we don't have any thought leads either. So let's see if we can just let those things arise whenever they arise note taking them personally investing anything into it and then there will just glide bright past but a good way to start is always spending a bit of time with our bodies so let your attention fullback onto your body take graph you the breasts in the beginning and see that you're fairly upright but relaxed at the same time can be helpful is kind of straightening your back and pulling your chain into wards your chest when you're breathing in and then when you're pre to relax and let your body fall into a comfortable position same with your shoulders when you're breathing in you can hold them up slightly and backwards a little bit and then when you breathe that you can let them draw ride back down and relax and it's also offer nice to relax your eyes relax all the muscles around your eyes even though we might be talking about watching or observing your body. You're not doing that with your eyes. You're actually much more feeling your body just being your body. Let's relax our joe as well. Our can our shoulders. How chest hurry often we are a bit tied here and see if you can instead of thinking about your chest actually feeling your chest as it were being in your chest. Stead of being. Open your head just like take helluva to reservoir and go down to your chest and feel from there trial and the idea of being your chest and see if you can just be the space in which this thing. We call chest his happening. The sensations in this area of the body that we call chest see if you can be the spaciousness around it so that all the feelings that are happening in the chest can relax into that space and then take this elevator down further to your area of the belly that also often might have some cramps or be a bit uneasy or just kind of slightly uncomfortable unless you have tingling and pleasant feeling stare which might be possible as well just feel what is their whatever it might be. See if you can be your belly as if your belly was being for itself has feel to be your palley. See the world from its perspective to feel the world from its perspective and then let's see if we can play with the perception of being too spaciousness around this thing which is called belly. See if you can feel that that spaciousness is just so vast and these sensations that are happening in this area of the bailey are in side part of that spaciousness relaxing into spaciousness. And ease very very important in meditation. Whenever you're able to just drop things to unburden yourself to relax. Infidelities to really let that feeling. Settle and fill up. Your whole being hit might be quite subtle but there is this feeling of renunciation when you let go and of contentment when relaxation arises in contentment. He's ought settles business. What settles the body. And what's settles the mind contentment. His like the rain in that poem. That settles old. Dost that s being blown up by the way of the world out there and you can expand your failed of awareness a little bit now and see if you include the whole body into that spaciousness into that field not thought tova body but the feeling the sensations that come along with having body hopefully by now having a fairly relaxed body that is these getting more and more relaxed by the second just being your body sensations. That don't really have shape. That are happening somewhere in this kind spacious. Parch that we're observing. We're being with that. We are and usually if we can set lower bodies in a nice way. Where at design time. Also settling our thought process slowing it down and as we are relaxing into the present moment and resting in the present moment. He thought steuer is. Let's don't don't resist the thoughts. Just let them come do their own thing. Don't get interested. Like i was describing before like your friends talking next door not interested in the meaning. It's just sound. it's joust thinking process happening. If we don't resist we don't had anything on top of what is happening. So he can sit down slowed down and eventually disappear come and then go and as we relaxed mind has relax and settle. the thinking. process ares also contentment arising. They're very subtle. Containment led a very rich one. Let's see quin appreciate the full flavor of it. In that way allow ourselves to go deep parental per into stillness and peace to enjoy feelings in your body are still arising folds. Carry on arising absolutely no problem. The important part is what we do when they arise how we relate to him what attitude we have towards them what the relationship is like just really relax. That happens. Carry on resting in reality as presents and allow your body and mind too sick la- gain and become peaceful and stale when your body and mind fades into the background because you don't invest into them only thing that remains moving his your breath choline don't generates thinking about your presto just feel your breath field sensations field movement field. That breath is happening. Maybe it's even like a disembodied breath that's perfect just be or breath be the vast kindness and spaciousness in wage. Breath his happening. Let yourself be carried pod breath carried by the stillness joy and by the base. Let you carry on with your meditation now in silence has we are slowly approaching the end of this meditation again with your mind and with your body maybe just trump into question does it feel has my mind feel and how does my party tearing difference from when i start. Meditating what did i do. What did i go off. What did i renounce. Could i get a taste of contentment of stillness and of peace. Even if just perera -ly and how did i treat my body. My mind was my relationship. As i will be ringing to bail three times. Please take your time to come back to your body to connect again with the world around here. Kay was that and please do remember that if meditation is peaceful wonderful but we don't get attached to that piece either. If the meditation is no wonderful we don't get to that we don't get attached to that as well so the practice is really relating indirect way to whatever arises positive feelings negative feelings and learning from that experience. Meditation is our training ground but also our resting place. Okay we have any questions is but they have received questions and the question is this. I feel that you can't be in the present more one only with body sensation because with other sensors lysine hearing smelly and thinking who can identify that without you seeing your memory. Could you please explain okay. So i'm just thinking about it so the person is saying that it's easier to be in the present moment with the body and i do agree with that because it might be easier to have a feeling have a sensation of what is happening in your body and that is something which is closer to the present moment but even with the other senses it is possible to develop present moment awareness but to thinking process or the conceptualizing can get involved in the process much much more easily but even with the body i mean. We had many many discussions during the retreat. When i was guiding meditation. And i was just saying you know. Feel your feet. And then we have an interview later down the track and the person says. But i don't feel my i'm thinking about. I'm thinking about where they are in space. And and and you know even if it takes switch from as i was trying to kind of guide in this meditation from looking down at your feet from kind of deceit of your consciousness that you think and sharon salzberg was actually describing for some people to feel their feet they actually have to look down at their feet first and then they can kind of get a connection to the actual feeling to the actual sensation but even listening as a type of sensation as well and listening is actually if it's removed from conceptualizing is only sound and sound. His always just happening in the present so if there is a bang and you perceive it you hear it that is happening in the present moment but once you start conceptualizing going wow. That was a door that was bank. Why are people banging doors. We are in a retreat setting. Do there shouldn't be any doors. Who was it wasn't a person that angry. I have memories as a as a child when the door was slammed at home. Or whatever and all that stuff comes up but actual feeling itself the actual sand is something which can help you to get into the present moment so we are often using the singing bowls as something to bring children for example linked to the present moment so we tell them to listen to the sound which is happening in the moment and then follow the sound the vibration of the sound into stillness which comes afterwards and with the singing bowl is very very is is also there is a sustained sound. There is a sound which is i guess for most people fairly pleasant. And it's something that can carry you that can allow you to settle your mind as we are settling the mind onto the body and then through the body into relaxation and piece we can also settle it into the sound. I don't know if you want to just try to see if you can just hear the sound without thinking about what is what patriot is and if it's getting louder or more quiet or whatever just to be with the sound or two as i was trying to kind of nudge you into just being sound. You can do the same thing. They're just just try. Try to kind of get a feeling for what it might mean to be sand feel and instead of thinking about sound all right here we go. The same guess would apply to the other senses. I mean i don't wanna go through all of them. But then i guess one of the hardest one is also an site and the is because we are very kind of visual people but even there we are actually just perceiving rapes and colors and light and darkness and then what we do is with sonya with perception and with some kara with this kind of building up we make it into something solid we make it into an object we start to relate to it as that object out there and i'm here and there is this kind of distance between us but it's actually joust a shape and it's happening in our consciousness like in that spaciousness that i was trying to describe its arising in that spaciousness. The same way like a sound like a sensation like our breath like whatever it is is just arising and passing away. Okay well. I hope some food for thought dan. There's another one. This question should focus on the breath. Seach when we experience sean feelings of pity or should we just know. Let go of those feelings and stay focused on the right. Can you read the beginning again. Should we should our focus on the breath. Switch okay when we experienced search should our focus switch so the idea. The whole idea of meditation is about letting go of unburdening ourselves of simplifying things and that's what we are trying to kind of help along with that process and if we do that very carefully and very nicely with with the body and then also with our mental world then once we come and invite our breath so it's again it's nada going and grabbing and focusing trying to kind of really go for it it kind of naturally arises and same way when we are watching the breath or when we are being the breath when breath is happening at that time and we have donned the preparation in the right way. We've taken the right steps then. It will naturally evolve into kind of those feelings and those feelings will start to arise and we'll start to become stronger and stronger and then the focus ease something. We are not really doing any more. The focus is happening all by itself because we are kind of being pulled in to those kind of states. it's a little bit like a magnetic pole. We can't can't really resist at a certain point. So i would just encourage you to stay with the process as well as you can and there will come a point where this joy and happiness into pt and asuka will become so strong that in very naturally will draw in. Mind if you want to describe it in discount way and it's a natural progression there. The problem is if we tried to shut it off for not enough. Pay any attention to it or if we try to focus onto it and we were actually destroy destroying this beautiful process so if it usually when it happens naturally we would be staying with the breath for quite a considerable length of time and settling on that breath and having the breath as a physical feeling at the beginning and then switching from a physical feeling to a more mental or emotional feeling so we are not for example feeling the in breath and the out breath am as something distinct anymore. We are just feeling that breath es happening and we are starting to kind of Enter the world of off veda which is the per to feeling world from the world of rupa which we were in before. Which is this kind of corporal. Which is the the body which is the world which is much more common of solid and we're moving from more solid to more subtle and it's something that Should be happening quite a quite naturally so please don't be excited or afraid at that time. Just relax and let yourself settle into whatever the object ease that is a rising naturally at that time and yet let yourself be carried deeper and deeper Next question they hope. I get this roy to us if i need to be aware of steelers president while not thinking of myself sitting day absence. That's a bit of a bit of a poem itself. dunno set. Say to us. If i need to be aware of my stillness presents. Not thinking of myself sitting meditation. Yes okay right so against illnesses something which which arises in which you get more and more used to and you start to realize what kind of it has what stillness actually means and as i was describing before we have certain kind of more coarser manifestations that will be there at the beginning of the meditation and that is our body and it's very important that we are taking care of that body and we have a certain perception at the beginning that this body. He's who we are. But you might have noticed that the way. I was trying to guide the meditation to kind of remove us from this idea. More and more but you are talking about thinking. Thinking is something that becomes less and less and less and less and less in meditation so when we are letting go of the body and when we are letting go of the thoughts and emotions we are also letting go of the concept of a self at at the same time. But i'm yeah please. Please try not to conceptualize these things too much. Try to bring it to the feeling world to the sensation world and to the world of how happiness relaxation and stillness actually feels much more than what'd ease or how will you describe it. I'm just trying to give you tools or ideas and ways. How the mind could get an inkling bought. It might mean but we are aiming for something much much deeper. We are just trying to an prime the mind a little bit with these kind of exercises or try to give it a bit of a of a taste what it might mean but the feeling itself what it actually means is so much more deeper and so much more profound than any words can really describe is eating only before midday monastic practice that assists with spiritual development and what does say about this practice. Right yes so. It is part of the eight precepts so that would be also for people who come and stay with us in the monastery. And it's for people who become on america's that's pustulent before a ordain and take a ten precepts and then more precepts for democracy and denounced later down the track but lay people are encouraged and put us in that it is good if we can keep those eight precepts every now and then instead of just keeping the five precepts and additional precepts which. Come on top of those five precepts are basically precepts about renunciation so we are learning to to let go of things. We're learning to simplify our lives. Where learning to be an contained basically with less and less things so we are not depriving ourselves of these things. So it's a process where we have to be careful and really also listen to our bodies and minds because when we are at their working is people. it might not be the right thing to to do these practices. Usually they are practiced on especial practice. Day or when you come to the monastery and listen to them at the same time and you offer a meal for example and then you eat that meal and you decide. I want to practice a bit more restraint. I want to practice a bit more renunciation and see how that feels like four at day for those twenty four hours and then you would also not be eating during that day so we are unburdening ourselves in meditation but also with practicing those precepts and especially with practicing does precepts of giving up things letting go things renouncing things and eat physically. Makes yourself feel lighter so you are more awake. You're more alert if you don't eat too much even for a lay people out there who don't Keep the eight precepts. It is advised not to eat too much in the evening because When you have eaten a lot and especially if you lead eat kind of heavy foods you will notice that It's much harder to go asleep. There might be much more activity in the in the body and in your mind and usually around stay say what is what is it. I think about two o'clock in terms of your body clock your internal organs especially your bowel is is working very very hard at that time and so the more you give it pie putting in a lot of food and especially food which needs a lot of processing that will also kind of effect your sleep and then when you wake up the next morning you will be much lighter much clearer and for the monastics to practice ease that we don't eat before the sun goes up before we have it's cold so you have another period of time when you wake up early in the morning and you are basically we call it in german sober so you don't have any substances in your system that kind of way you down or that. Might you know be cloud your mind or just. Make kind of slow and groggy or dizzy or whatever. The feelings are to describe that here so in german. We say someone is there. We go see. Because i'm thinking in english. I can't even think of the german word now but basically when you have to go for a blood test they told tell you you have to come sober. And it doesn't mean you're not drinking alcohol and means you shouldn't be eating food or having an too many drinks before you go and do that blood test. What is it called again So german sober new stem newton. That's got it yet. So newton is the word and that the word is also used in terms of not having any alcohol or or or drugs in your system. Okay good longline dancer. Is this girl food effect for meditation. Yes they would be but because because there is different bodies and you have to ask your body after try things out. There is people have certain intolerances. There's people who have certain allergies. Are people you know so i wouldn't wanna give you any Dr brody recommendations will what you should be eating or not eating so of you know the heavier food as dead the the more time it takes to be processed and of course if there is you know very very foods or something like that and they will give you a sugar spike but they will kind of wear off fairly quickly so see what foods you experience and can find out there that. Give you sustenance Instead of just giving you a con of temporary high or in kind of giving you a certain feeling of comfort this couple of foods that are kind of cold comfort foods. So it's it's really just to make sure it is body is happy and surviving for another day and the buddha basically usually says when we talk about food as monastics on food to finish old feelings of hunger or discomfort. That's why we're eating but not to start any new feelings in terms of having greed or last store wanting to eat something so it's basically appeasing your system giving it what it needs but maybe not always what it wants. I hope that gives you a bit of guideline okay. To chopin to carry the troubles. I have june the day into my sitting. How can i let go and have a more peaceful longest. So that is very normal that we take alum mines from our day to day life into our meditation. I think i described that. But maybe to meditation classes ago or meditation sessions ago. So we don't have a meditation mind and day to day law alive mind. It's the same mind so whatever happens in life. We carry into our meditation. Whatever happens in our meditation. We carry into our lives but we can find skillful ways to Deal with it. So if there's been a lot of lot of stuff going on what might be very helpful is to do a bit of walking meditation because there is a bit more kind of movement and the body is involved a little bit more and it's something which can actually very very nicely help you to settle your mind. Also if you're sitting and you're very restless or you're kind of tired and walking. Meditation can be very very useful. I mean walking. Meditation in itself can be a very good practice. Oh you know you you might get more peaceful walking than sitting so again. It depends on the person myself walking. Meditation is something that works quite well and then the other thing is don't rush. It turned have a certain goal. Don't have a certain expectation where you wanna get and how long you want to get be sitting there and if it doesn't work you know you're really kind of going crazy over him for half an hour. I decided to offer now. No gotta zipper having our come. What may you know if not just get up and do walking meditation nor do meditation sitting in a in a comfortable position if there is pain and discomfort or or friction happening in my mind but if you work with your body you can often calm a lot of these kind of things down so i sometimes also tell people. Try to feel your thoughts. So you're bringing your thoughts into meditation. How do you feel your thoughts. Try to feel what is happening in your body as a reaction to those faults or if it's not a reaction how do these faults feel. How did his emotions feel in your body. Where are they located is there. Tension is their disease. Is there friction whatever it might be and then if you work with those things on a physical level it becomes a bit more tangible and you can actually relax it in your body and bhai relaxing it in your body you can relax it or pre relax it in your in your mind and then once you get into your mental world. It's kind of easier to deal with it and if you had a really hard day and you sit down and your body feels fairly awful. Just carry on doing body sweeps for the whole set of the meditation. So we don't have a certain goal. We have to reach in our meditation. If your body needs attention if those thoughts and emotions need the intention please give it to them. But don't let yourself be carried away by them so you're just spending again. It's the same thing like with the food you know. Give them what they need but not what they want. Don't go into it too. Far and don't indulge in it basically whooping hope that makes sense and yet tried out. See if it works thank you. I think that's was the last question. Good better finish off before someone else. No of course it's wonderful. You're asking questions but we have this service that is offered to you. Free of charge kindly by all monastics staying here at newbury and it's happening on sunday. We have sunday donald. Talk at nine o'clock in the morning. Melbourne time and there is the opportunity when you Joined live to ask a question and same thing. Again with those meditation sessions. We have on monday night at seven thirty melbourne time. In the evening you have an opportunity to ask more questions if there are any left well i guess there will always be some questions left. Unless we're all enlightened then there will be no more questions and we'll all be just very peaceful and happy and yes we will just disappear into navona and that's going to be okay for tonight by take care and good night.

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Emptying Out The Notebook

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Emptying Out The Notebook

"Boom. Bang we done we done. Elliott last week. You said Gimme yellow laces. So Mike at skywalker zero, nine, two, eight. This week gives you yellow lace. Word Association. All right. I'm ready to be to ask myself why did I do this and just be mad? This is good. I like this one this is really smart. We'll start with Lilo line. You know the funniest Lilo, line story I remember first of all, you hope he's okay because he went through some real health concerns. So the first thing I think of when I think of his name is I hope he's doing all right and I hope everything's okay with them. But the best loyal Lilo line story I was ever told was when he was in Montreal they were playing Ottawa and. He was Lilo load line was a very tough guy and Ottawa had a guy who was a fighter named bill hewer. And Odor Line was Chirping and Hewitt on the bench said something along the lines of the he objected and he came at him and he's like I'm GonNa, get you You know all I wanNA fight you and apparently the line turn to him and said Yeah I've already beaten you. I'm not doing that again and that was the end of that. I'm looking at up now and I, guess he broke his nose in a previous fight. But the story I heard was he told him I've already beaten you. I'M NOT GONNA bother end of story, and apparently the Canadians all thought it was hilarious. Yet the was tough to, yes. He was we whenever we talk about tough hockey players from wellingborough talk about like Matt Johnston and Paul. And we should probably throw throw Hewitt in there as well. Damon Lonzo. This is not another September twenty seven thing, right? No because he's also got that birthday. That's why we mentioned him. Last week's is two weeks in a row. Trade from Tampa to Philadelphia Chris Gratton. And not, long after that trade, I can't remember now off the top of my head if it was same day right after but really keen to Toronto and Bob Clark Interviewing Bob Clark about the deal. I can't remember how it all went. But Clark, was like we're talking about everybody in that deal and he said you haven't asked me about Damon Elliott and I go I was going to get to it and he goes well good because he's a really good player. It was typical Bob Clark Lake. And I loved interviewing. Bob Clark. Have you ever asked him a question? He gave you an honest answer. He like snapped at me because it took me too long to ask them about Langkow's deal. I think I asked him well, Randburg Asthma Grant and I asked him what cylinder because they were the three other guys that dealers like you're going to ask you a land cal right and I was like, yes. And it was just really funny. That's the moment I remember about Demon Landco a thousand games and came back from a really serious. What was it neck injury to get there like that was a guy who got it through play the law hard hockey and gutted through a lot of pain to get to the end of his career. Pretty impressive. Robert. Reichel Robert Reich, okay. So the story of a Robert Reichel always remember was told to me by Eric Do Hachik. And so Robert Reichel scored the big goal over Canada in shootout in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety, eight, in Nagano remember. Of course. Okay I'm sure that's a pleasant memory for a lot of Canadian fans. But when he played in Calgary and you I came over from the former Czechoslovakia to play in Calgary. There were people in the flames organization who hated the sticky used. They couldn't stand it. They said it was a bad stick and as talented is a guy he is, and he had a ninety point season. They felt that his stick limited him from being even better. Forty goal score is a forty goal scorer from, but they didn't like his stick. They didn't like it. They said he could have been even better if he had a better stick. So Ninety eight Olympics, Reichel scores, the goal Eric too hot chicks there to hodge space in Calgary rankles a Calgary flame beforehand wasn't then he was with the islanders then but they knew each other they had a good relationship. And Reichel apparently walked up to the Hachik, put his stick out and said, ask Calgary how they feel about this stick now oh nice. Nice Robert Reichel? I remember when I worked with bill waters doing the old leafs lunch show on six forty Toronto I remember asking him you know, why did you? Because he was a markup was part of the deal with Travis Green? For Danny Markov Yup from Phoenix I. Remember I really liked mark off a lot of people like Markov and raise one of those big three rookie defenseman. The made the maple leaves out of Camp With Cavalry and tremblay I remember asking like, why did you move mark off? And he said we did it to save him trust me He was always kind of vague about it, but it sounds like that was a solid that they did for that player. To make sure that he still had a career that always member Reichel that way. But that was that was really opened my eyes. You Know Markov was a really interesting guy. You Know Marco came to Canada, north? America really young, right? Yeah and I think he was married young and. I've learned to think about this a lot. So he's born in Nineteen, seventy six he comes over to north. American nineteen twenty seven in nineteen. Ninety seven, nine, hundred, twenty, seven that would be really neat trick I think this bringing in Russians at that money you. Know. So you know he comes over he's twenty years old. He's still really young and I remember he made the Maple leafs pretty quickly pick you spent half a year in Saint John's, and then he started the next year and Saint John's and by the end of the season he was in the H. L. With the Maple leafs as a player they loved him. He just had a lot of growing up to do you know he was he was a twenty one year old kid who didn't speak English he comes from Russia he goes to Newfoundland then he's in Toronto. Thousand nine series how he battled John Leclair in front of the Philadelphia Toronto Nets, just battled him all series. Long was a big part of the reason Toronto won that series it was their first playoff win in a few years and I think he was just young needed to grow up and you know the players talked about how he'd smoke in the intermissions and stuff like that and into the drier into the drier into the drier the maple leafs. The intermissions a decade later, and you know he played a really physical game and he got hurt a lot. He was he was very reckless with his body but you know I think later in his career like people just really respected how hard he played and the one thing I remember was when Washington won the COP. He sent out some tweets about how much it meant to him to see. Ovechkin a Russian lift the Stanley Cup and I communicate with him over direct message and he answered a few questions for me about how meaningful it was and I just I remember that conversation but we talk a lot about you know guys who have difficulty making the transition and things like that. Imagine you're twenty years old you don't speak English and suddenly you're plopped in North America like it's a real challenge although friendly people in Saint John's though if you're going to go anywhere not not knocking the people there just that you're in a foreign environment theft. Okay. Sort of deter Danny Markov back to it Geoff. Sanderson. First of all good luck to the Sanderson family because Jake. Yes. Jake is going in the NHL draft pretty high pick coming up next week. You Know Brian Burke for a guy who doesn't like cheating in the CBA he like teams. Now he doesn't believe in salary cap avoidance and things like that. Burke's the biggest cheater of all time and so him and and Doug Maclean. First of all, they cooked up that todd marchant Sergei Federov deal, right? Yeah Marsha wouldn't waive his no trade. So Doug, put him on waivers to get around the trade, which is why that was the beginning of the no move clause the NHL. Yes. That trait specifically. So he traded Federov to Doug. Maclean in Columbus and the whole point was it was supposed to be marshawn but marshawn didn't WANNA be traded. So they put him on waivers and then first burkey didn't claim right correct and then doug called him in yelled atom day later these guys. Are the biggest Liars Alive Oregon McLean like if we would've ask them that when they were. DMZ. No, you guys are making stuff up reporters can't be trusted, and now they're writing books telling these stories. Yeah. Well, Geoff Sanderson had one like that in two thousand and four he was traded from Columbus to Vancouver and I guess this Anderson Start asking well buying a house in Vancouver and I guess Burkey had made a deal that he was being sent back to Columbus next season. And Burke's like I don't think you should do that and Sanderson's like why and he couldn't come right out and tell them so burke had to light am. or at least sort of fake advise them not to buy the house. You know estate is really good. They're the area's really gonNa pop I think it's a good investment for you if you just hang onto your property. Unbelievable. Can't go W cook deal for him to go back to see bj. So the other thing about Sanderson is and this is more up your alley 'cause I don't remember the story behind it, but he had one of those strange superstitions where he used a different stick every period right? Different lengths. Yeah. Yes. You know why? Why was that? Because he felt that he wanted to have something that helped them force himself, bend his knees later into the later into the game that he was going to be more tired in the third period didn't WanNa give himself an excuse to straighten up his legs. So if he had a shorter steak, he'd have to bend over bend his legs more. Yeah I never would have gotten that Geoff Sanderson Baby. Does this I know this. So zoom call we've had a couple of different zoom calls with a lot of the prospects and one of my first questions, Jacob Did your dad ever tell you this and he said no but the minute after I'm GonNa, go and ask him about it. So I've got a follow up with Jake Sanderson to see how that conversation went with his dad but it is one. Of those great stories about Geoff Sanderson I mean he's and listen Jake told me like his dad is very specific about a lot of things and really meticulous. So that story is very much on brand for for Geoff Sanderson. So I'm curious how the conversation went between the father and son but as of last week on our zoom call. Jeff told Jake that story us. Pretty Hilarious Okay Ilya Kovalchuk. Chuck Awhile Ago did we not? Of course we did a lot of he's GonNa Recur. Theme though. Cove, which is going to play next year. Montreal so going back don't you? I mean he loved it there. He was successful there they loved him. I don't know it's kind of hand to glove. I would think so but I don't know but. Kind of look. into. That a little bit actually was that like a doug. Maclean Brian Burke Geoff. Sanderson deal. But if you ask mark version of a Crazy reporters making up stuff. Okay. Let's move onto her final one here because we got a lot to get you on the podcast. Jordan? Stall. First of all I wonder if you call Don Waddell this week and said, Hey, mark are traded eric trays or anything I have to worry about here. The other thing I think of when I think of Jordan Staal is just the power back when they were in the old arena before they went into pg paints I remember walking in there one day for a practice the day before a game and seeing. Mike Kedar who was the strength coach in Pittsburgh at the time there was a long hallway and he had stall strapped to. Harness that has sled on the back end of it and there was as much weight. On that thing is you know is in my entire body and probably more and stall was just dragging it dragging it and I was looking at this saying holy smokes and. They kit our Sadie was the strongest guy on that team by a mile like that's what Jordan Staal was known for his power I also the other story or remember remember about Jordan Staal was. You know his first NHL season when he was a rookie, he had a really good year. He scored twenty nine goals. His second season he ended up I think with twelve byte for the first half of the season. It was really low. He got off to a really slow start and he could still play juniors and Pittsburgh came into Toronto for a Saturday night game and I asked ratio who's the GM of the time if there was any chance that he was GonNa Loan Jordan stall to the Canadian world junior team and Shiro looked at me like I was nuts. and. He said Jordan stall is an NHL player. and. He's not going to the World Juniors and I always remembered that conversation. All right. There we go. Lilo to line Damon, land cow, Robert Reichel Geoff Sanderson, Ilya Kovalchuk, and Jordan stall. You wanted yellow laces fridge. You got its courtesy of Mike at skywalker zero, nine, two eight. Burger. I could give you one clue that gives it all away fast. But I don't think you want that lifeline. No I was totally psyched out before I even started this. Like I was looking at some of these guys played like in Phoenix Some of these guys had seasons where they played less than ten games. Jordan stall is the one who is. Completely different than that Okay Gimme the hint I'm not good at these really crazy once. I'll give you six hints prochet. Now five hundred Damian. Rhodes Martin Hamburger Meka Noren Chris Mason Cam Ward. Those again. Damian Rhodes Martin Dur Meka in Chris Mason. Cam Work. Jordan install. Broader Line. Norton and Sanderson. Mason Coal Chuck Ward Stall Who's the other one? Damian Rhodes. That one doesn't fit. Are these. Is this something to do with these guys I H L goals nope. Well. Hang on. which list. These guys gave up their first NHL goals to these guys. Let me ask you that question again because you asked about first NHL goals, which lists. The guys that the goalies gave up their first angel goals to. I'll ask you again. which lists. Players of the goalies. Oh. So close by. Surprise. You got there. You're so close. I'm right aroused I can tolerate their. Land the plane for each land, the plane. Brodeur Roads Northern Nason award. Like happy Gilmour talking the ball and. You want to go home. Like your home. Go to like your home. Are you too good for your home? Damian Rhodes Marty Obrador Meakin and Chris Mason. Cam. Ward. All done what They've all scored goals. So. Did they get assists on these goals. They must have been all on the ice when they scored. Going keep going. Were they the guys who on other teams who put the puck on their sticks or something like that? You're so close just say it. People were screaming right now listening to this, the gave away the puck the led to the goal this shot in on the Goalie Bengo Okay own-goal players and those goalies credited with. That's what I meant that they were the ones who put on the goalie's stick. That's what I meant. Why how what's the name of the guy? WHO said this? Okay. So a little bio action here about Mike Aska Walker Zero, nine, two, eight. Here's what he submits about himself. Longtime listener been watching listening to you both since the I desk days in hockey night in Canada radio. Plus you Mike. Saw the, last home opener in the Montreal Forum when I won tickets to the game from a baseball ticket. Fundraiser Nice, my dad and I are both die hard cubs fans or having a father son trip to that game was amazing. Even though they lost seven three affiliate I believe it was an amazing experience. My name is Mike Lukman from Corner Brook Newfoundland. There originally now calling fort, mcmurray homes is two thousand and eight Mike. Thanks so much for submitting another yellow lace addition of were association Skywalker did you go back and look at watch all these videos to get it I found with is the list. I did all search online for wanted to find out who did want to find out who the goal tender's were because he gave me the list of the players and then what they're responsible for it. So I went back into one to find who the goaltenders were and I kind of felt like you might need a clue so better have some standing by so I wouldn't have found all the goaltenders. So it's Oberlin Roads Lancaster door stalbur door boy. Shuffleboard is a game I didn't master. George Stall must've on that shot. Reichel, Noren. Geoff Sanderson Chris Mason. Eight might be it might be masons. Ilya Kovalchuk Cam more. believably into the devils goal. We can't give you the goal scorer. Steve whichever, Cain touched laugh on. Believable. I gotTA. Tell you without that hint. There was no chance I was getting that. No chance tough one. Good one yellow. Ya. You know like I said I'll say this a thousand times everybody who submits these I am hugely I. Think we are hugely appreciative. Yep. That was a lot of fun. Okay. We're all warmed up now. Coming in to start the game congratulations to the Tampa Bay lightning and congratulations the two thousand eight draft where draft pick number, one, three, and five. All won the Stanley Cup on the same day, Stamkos but goes in and Hsien without will pick up thirty one. About this circle shoot wide right twenty three seconds left rebound Ben, right corner right point. clayborn muscle couples capable shoot savory rebound is loose zagan shoots wide lap fifteen seconds left rebound ranch a lot. Right Hey. It's GonNa Right Point Clinton shoot. down. Wide. Open. down. Go off. The top. Off. The very as always understated DIV Michigan with the call, their congratulations, Tampa, Bay, lightning you are the. Winners of the Stanley Cup in the most interesting Stanley Cup perhaps ever handed out. The. You're there to documented every single night on television on radio on on this podcast. What did we just see what just happened in your estimation? Jeff the number one thing I think of when I think of lightning this year is last year's NHL awards first of all, typically understated call by Dave Mishkin yes, and I'm happy for anybody who gets to call the Stanley Cup. Yeah it's an honor fantastic for him but I think back to the NHL awards last year and you'll remember we had Steve Mayor the same week. We interviewed him at the draft. It was a special podcast. We did the entertainments guru and we talked about how Keenan Thompson we both agreed an excellent job, roasted the lightning and how it sent a really different tone. And how he had to kind of warn the lightning in advance that it was coming but they decided they were going to go through with it and Vasilevskiy who won the ads done Kucherov won the heart and John Cooper who was up there for the Jack Adams, they had to sit in the crowd and listen to this and they're just sit stone faced and just eat it. Yup and they came back and they won the next year the number one thing it makes me think of that if you have a team that is really talented. And you have those guys signed for term, which Tampa does you have to bet on it it's the same thing that Washington did Saint Louis was a bit of an outlier because they didn't have the long term success that those two teams did but. Doug Armstrong was considering blowing up that team when he decided to bet on it. and. When you have talent, you have to bet on it you have to keep them together. You have to encourage them to get better have to demand them to get better and Edgier you have to support them with the right people. That's the lesson to me of the last three, Stanley Cups, and Tampa to. Everybody called them soft look at the teams they just beat Columbus tough team. Yeah Boston I they're not the you know the nineteen seventies, Bruins I. Mean who is hard team to play against? That's team man not easy to play against and the islanders really tough team Dallas really tough team. They beat four really tough teams to win the Stanley Cup and maybe they didn't have to travel. But that was not while it travelled once but that was not an easy. Road and the other thing too is they didn't win it getting pushed around. They gave as good as they got they set the tone physically a lot of the time that coleman good row gourd line was incredible headman sets of physical tone. It's a reminder to me that if I ever ran a team, you have to bet on your talent, you have to challenge them to get better and you have to find the right pieces around them. That's what I think of. WanNa get your thoughts on the Dallas Stars Humor Second. But the theme of today's Podcast is GonNa be what's next for all thirty one teams in the NHL. We're GONNA fly through the entire entire thirty one of them before we get to Dallas what is next for Tampa because much like Chicago previously starting with the coupling in two thousand ten this is a snake that's going to have to shed some skin like they're going to have to get rid of some players to make way for new contracts. What's next? I believe that Julian breeze by started to do that sort of planning before the return to play began you know there's a bunch of guys there that have no trade in no move clauses colognes got the partial meal. Pilots got a full gourds got a full Johnson's got a full obviously stamkos headman Kucherov kicks in I. Think one of the things he started to do is see some of these guys and say, would anyone be willing to move and I've heard that the early answer a lot was no, you know a lot of these guys took below market deals at the time they did it because they liked it in. Tampa and because of the tax situation. It was preferable to stay in Tampa. It's the incident vantage that they use and I get it like players will say we agreed to a deal and we don't want to be moved especially if it's to a place I'm not going to enjoy as much and it's going to hurt me financially with the tax situation. So you have to massage it. You have to look around it. I do think teams are going to ask them. About Circuit Chef, they're loaded on the left side of their D.. They've got headman mcdonagh and him there I mean he's still does play twenty minutes a night a lot of power play time not as much five on five. I would suggest that teams might go and say, Hey, does does he wanNA bigger role? Does he wanNA play more and see if in any way that is something that he would consider or Tampa Bay considers? I. Know There's the whole offer she thing we had this conversation last week I I don't know how eager teams are going to be do offer sheets especially with bonuses but we'll see those are good players and the other thing too is, do you have to do tough things with a championship team a team that just won together we just saw Pittsburgh you know honk fist he knew that there was a chance he was going on waivers if he didn't take the trade to Florida He. Might go there because of waivers. So you have to do something like that and say look is we're going to have no choice. Now the other thing to Jeff people are convinced that breeze blind eyes, men are GonNa Cook up something where they trade someone to Detroit with a sweetener. One of the RFA's Detroit signs them and then they trade them back a few months later at a reduced rate with troy keeping some of the salary. Now, I have no idea that's going to happen but. The Cunanan's of the NHL are already worried about this kind of thing. Alright right. So we'll leave Tampa there. So that's again more like this throughout the podcast of for all the thirty one NHL teams. Let's go to Dallas You made the point earlier this summer that this would be the worst Stanley Cup to lose but you have to give it to Dallas for getting there. I think the a large portion of the NHL Universe even though they might not have been cheering for the Dallas Stars were certainly cheering for Rick Bowness, you have a thought or two on the stars. Bonus. First of all, do they work out a deal where he keeps the job It sounds like they want him and I think he's interested we talked about a jeff and he kind of confirmed it. was there any personal lifestyle reason why he wouldn't want to do it with their ever be any contract issue that you wouldn't want to do it I think it's definitely trending in the direction of he'll be back as coach and I'm I'm happy for him because he wanted one more shot and he got it and he did a great job with it. But while things definitely appear they're going to be back. It's not done until it's done. Jamie Ben. His post after they lost first of all. I. Remember when the return to play happen someone said to me, this is going to be the worst Stanley Cup final ever to lose. Likes new guys right now. And me Ben. War that. Sucks Go through a lot with that group and. Not the Franks dowse morning news. No it's probably tough right now. But what you remember about this group of guys. Use of the athletic. Jamie Just when you are you able to even kind of think about the run that you guys had or or is this just too much for you right now at this moment. It's exactly how you would think that a person that really cares would react after they lost. I also wondered too if it was Kinda look of a player who was thinking, we had such a great run here and who knows if we're going to be together again As, a good run Tough your two games away from. Stanley Cups so It'll be interesting in Dallas. You know you take a look at a coup tobin had the greatest run of his career. I. Think he's price themselves out of there but is there any chance that they would trade ben Bishop and keep Khuda Open? Bishops Contract is now basically three times three and a half it was front loaded. So my guess is no but I'm sure these are things that they're going to consider. They were disappointed in the performance of some of their highest paid players I know Sagan was injured. Ben Was a physical presence. Raghav went in and out you know they've got assigned Heiskanen next year they've got sign Alexia next year who's a really improve player they've got among their Ara fees this year are. Of hints and Fox. Fox has got our bright's. I it's a challenging financial puzzle and their owners in the hospitality business which has just been hammered. Right now by everything that's going on with Cova. But I'll tell you this with that defense they're going to be good for a long time. A long time. This Perry, comeback? I gotta think that they're going to try to bring him back. I mean the interesting thing about Perry scored five goals in the season had five in the playoffs and he was a presence every night. Yeah. JOEP Belsky had fourteen in the regular season here thirteen in the playoffs and was a presence every night. And shortened season two for Perry. You gotta think I would I mean if you think you've got a chance to win, you want that guy. Elliott before we address the other twenty, nine teams, let's touch on rated salaries. You discuss this in the thirty one thoughts blog this week. I didn't think this would be gentle one for you and I guess it's not Well I, got some push on it and It just shows you how complicated this issue is obviously because it's pay, which is a big deal to everybody. It's a passion issue like first of all, I think the League wants to start on January first God only knows if it's going to happen. I don't think there'll be a winner classic. It's a waste of a good event if he can't have full fans, don't waste it, move it back a year or two whenever we can do it. But I, you know January I kind of like the NHL Day and I like it. It's Oh twenty twenty s over that. You're socked. Let's drop the puck and let's have a great new year I get the symbolism for society. The players believe that they've taken all the cuts they're going to take. They agreed to a ten percent hold back and twenty percent escrow, which if you do the math properly is they collect seventy two percent of their salaries gross. They believe if they and this has been communicated to all the agents in the players. If they play just one game next year, they get everything all the rest of their gross. Salary. Now the league negotiated that on behalf of the teams but there are teams who believe there's no way that can be true if they play a pro rated, which everybody thinks is going to happen even if the League hasn't said it yet then the salaries prorated to the players association believes it's black and white simple. Memorandum of Understanding that's it. There are some teams and the League cl should say, has not said anything about this. There are some teams who believe differently and they interpreted differently because of the way section seventeen see of the player contract the standard player contract is written. They believe that they interpreted as well. That means what it, what happens if. One team plays eighty two games. One team can only play seventy one, one team can only play fifty five whatever I don't know the right answer here but I just wanted to stay that the players association. Believes one game they get everything that's owed to them, and I'm not saying they're wrong I just don't know how this is all GonNa work out. Safe to say, then this is other headed to more negotiation or arbitration. I mean this is an enormous issue from that point of view. Then if both sides will dig in their heels on it to me, that says if I'm the NHL him saying eighty two games or bust. If they're getting all their money. Well that's I think what the NHL would want, but we also know the league isn't crazy about summer hockey and there's also the issue of the Olympics next year which you know their rights holder in the states. NBC Airs The Olympics and we use CBC to Air Hockey night in Canada, which airs the Olympics. So I don't know what the answers are all there. I just know that this is a really complicated situation. I'm not smart enough right now to know the answers. With, that we'll go through the teams We'll go. Atlantic. Metropolitan Central Pacific. So will kick off the Atlantic Alphabetically and start with the Boston Bruins Tori crew of course, Front Center there. Yes I heard the last offered a crew was like six times six point six. I think Boston is slipping around Ackman Larson. I think they're in there and I think he's interested in going there. Boston to me is a team that's trying to figure out. Kind of where we going here. Are, we re loading or are we? Kind of starting over a bit. debrosse name has been out there a lot. I think they're trying on Oem L. and that could determine. A lot of what their future is. Because it sounds like they're not gonNA sign crew maybe they come back one more time and take another shot. But if they acquire Oh yell I can't see how they can keep Krueg. It sounds to me like that's kind of move there weighing right now and seeing. All right this could determine what direction we go. Buffalo Sabres. Everyone kind of threw cold water. On the ACL thing, they've paid him a seven point five million dollar bonus. There's no sense and trading him. It's a story to watch in a year though if this season doesn't go well for Buffalo, then believe me this is going to be everywhere. I liked the stall trade for them. I think it's the kind of move aigle would like to. Gives them center that can really help the I'm curious about some of the other decisions that they're going to make. They've got some flexibility, but also a lot of contracts got clear up they got some extra D I don't think they're done but I just think right now the number one thing that they had to sort out was getting Eichel some help to give them some reason to believe and I think the stall situation accomplished that you know we talked about menteur earlier about. His and everything like that. I don't think he's getting non-qualified or anything like that. But I think they are scared a little bit by Arb- number. So I think they're going to try to see if they can avoid that in terms of either making a deal with them or seeing what else is out there and I do think the sabres are looking at trying to see if they can add a goalie i. Think, they'd like to strengthen themselves in that position I gonNa Going GonNa get you there and actually I would think that if I'm Kevin Adams right now and it's a as we've talked about countless times it's a huge golden market they have to be trying to fish out here I think they are maybe the most interesting team right now is you bison seems all too willing to weaponize cap space the Detroit Red Wings The stall move I think is really interesting. I thought it was a smart move by them. They're look alike one of the guys I heard they were interested to was Andy Green. And that would make a lot of sense Andy Greens a really good veteran with attitude and I could see Detroit having some interest in him. I think they've got some interest in Marxism to like they've let Jimmy Howard no that he won't be back. I think they see you're the big draft guide. What are you thinking for Detroit at for? Are they moving down or taking coal perfetti? What are they doing I? Keep going back on either coal perfetti at for for some of those associations talked to Sam causing Juno Boat. Countless Times or even Jamie Drysdale as well. if you looking at building this thing out from the back end than I've heard Jimmy Drysdale's name mentioned there. But the one thing about Steverman and this listen to started when he was with Tam, not telling anybody as not going to tell anybody and don't be surprised. If once again last year was more at cider his first drafted Tampa Bay lightning was was Brett Connolly would only played a few games with PG at that point Steve is women's is own man. Steve Eisman just shuts out noise and makes his own decision whether it adheres to other people's logic or not. So do you think they're in on the goalie at all? Man. I've heard so many crazy things about Oscar off and how high he he may end up going I. Mean He's the most highest rated goalie prospects since Carey? Price. I don't know that they're in salmon primarily give you a better indication there but I've stopped saying Askarov can't go hi because I've just heard too many teams say yeah, we've we've been talking about the goaltender. Because I wrote a bunch of teams I thought around the golden add a couple of guys were jobs, and so they think Detroit's on it too because they don't have a lot of goaltender depth though, and that's why I think they might be in on Marxism and we'll see does the Tampa Detroit connection actually happen. That would be a heck of a story Florida Panthers, those does not sleep and he's getting things done. There have been a number of reports that Minnesota and San Jose or talking about a Dube Nick Denardo deal and it may happen I've heard Florida's in on Denardo Paul Fenton who's now the GM acquired him in Minnesota I think Florida's there too. I've had some guys telling me to they wouldn't be surprised if bill zito tries to bring Ryan Murray and from Columbus they just traded Matheson, right? Yeah. I've heard they're. Also interested Mark Bora wietskede like they're a team that is on that too. We've mentioned that before I, think they're just trying to change their identity. I think anyone not named Barkov they'll listen on and Zito told me for thirty thoughts the blog a couple of weeks ago he'll listen on anything he may just not do a time I do think Florida's got a lot of balls in the air ally I, heard they recently talked Dad Nov, about a return I don't know if it's GonNa happen I expected Hoffman will test the market. Quenneville to Seattle interesting spitballing in the blog. Luck it's just you know sometimes I kind of overthink things by you know I just wonder you know he's got the tight association with Ron Francis Right Francis told US and other people. He wants an experienced coach like I'm just thinking. If you know if there's any chance new year, they don't think this is working and Quenneville. Got A big ticket. It's discussed. It's just something that popped into my head just because you know Joel Quenneville went under one regime and I'm not saying that there's a problem or they don't like each other but you just never know how things work right? And you know maybe in a year, I don't know it's just my mind working overtime Montreal Canadian's. So I'M GONNA, give credit to a radio guy in Montreal. Tony Marinara who's Pretty Funny Guy he did a really good interview with Mark Berge even this the other day were burs of in you know basically saying I'm willing to trade first rounders and prospects right now I just need a partner Mark, Berge. To me is a guy who says I gotta make the playoffs next year. That's the way it looks to me. He was telling everybody he went he wanNA left handy. He wanted to get that done and he got it on right away. He went out and he got Edmonson and he signed him. I know he said that he's not in on Line A. To me that says like, why wouldn't he being online that says that he probably doesn't think he can make the deal for line I look at Montreal and I don't see the match. I don't see the match that you know if you're Winnipeg, you're asking for Nick Suzuki and if you're Montreal, you're not doing that right and do they have a right hand shot defensemen that Winnipeg would say okay, that's our guy. I think he's going to try to add something on the wings I. Wonder if he would try a short term thing with Taylor Hall or something like that you know like to me like all the wings who can score that are kind of available. Those are the kinds of guys I I could see brave and on, but he's to me he's acting like a guy that knows he has to make the playoffs next year he had one target, he filled it, and now I think he's GonNa look for scoring on the wing. Ottawa senators there'll be big players come Tuesday. It'll be interesting. You know what do they do at that second pick? The first one's pretty clear. They're going for stood solar by field whichever one doesn't go right in front of them but the second one will see where it goes the other thing I kind of here there is that they're starting to try to do their business they're looking at. Okay I. Don't think they've gotten around to Brady could chalk yet but they've made it very clear. He's a guy they WANNA sign. And they did extend Chabad early. So I'm sure they're going to get to CA- chuck at some point I think they're trying to sign connor. Brown. I would guess they're trying to sign Chris Tierney I. Think they want to avoid arbitration with all these guys right So the first thing is I think they want to see if they can kinda get these guys done same with Duke Lehrer I would bet they wanna get all these guys signed so that they don't have to worry about arbitration I'm curious to see what they're gonNA do in goal if they're going to bring someone in. In. A one of the things they did that was really interesting was they got a bunch of prospects that went and going to play overseas the goaltender God is I think Brannstrom is and one of the things that Ottawa did was you can take out like a temporary disability insurance plan. And normally the player is the beneficiary of it. Ottawa asked that the team be the beneficiary. So let's say if a player gets hurt and can't play this season whenever it starts the team is the one that collects the insurance, and that's kind of unprecedented like I asked a bunch of agents if this was ever happened before and were like, no, like that's really weird and Ottawa was unapologetic about it. They just said look like we are protecting our asset and it was. It, didn't go over very well but Ottawa's position was kind of like. To protect ourselves, and this is what we're going to do, and they said it was smart business sense for them and so I think that's exactly what these players are going to do. So I think it shows that the sanders are knocking be afraid to negotiate and grind and I think that's kind of what's GonNa Happen in some of these contract talks I I would guess they're going to do whatever they can to make sure that they can try to sign brady could shock for as long as possible. But they're one of the teams that's told people you know the world's Kinda changed a bit. So we've got a reflect that in our conversations we right did Chabad that had calling white. It seems as if the MO is identify at lock in long-term for Ottawa the other Ontario team always a headline around Toronto what about the Maple leafs? Are they looking at? Two or three of the defensemen that can play right side. All the talk is about portrayal right or number one I still think portray Angeles choices to go back to Saint Louis. I. Don't know if it's going to happen and they'll try again but I don't know. My guess is this is my personal opinion is next Choices Vegas. That's personal opinion and I could be wrong. It's just my opinion. I think. TORONTO. I just don't know if it's going to be possible. So. Let's just say it's not possible. Then I think what they're GONNA do is they're gonNA go up and down this list of right hand shot defensemen Dylan to Mellow Trevor Van. Dyke? TJ. Brody's a guy they've liked in the past I know he's a left shot, but he prefers to play the right side just you in the cadre deal wasn't he? Yes. Yes. He was I mean just take a look at. The guys who play right side radcow Gouda. We've talked a bogus you and I before right Obviously. Dustin Buffalo and isn't gonNA play I. Don't think the lease will be in. Tyson Berry. You Know Sami Vatanen. Is that a guy that? Toronto looks that we should mention Christine of because of Tan of hits the market I absolutely think Toronto is going to look at that. I think that's what the maple leafs are. GonNa do I think they're going to look at two or three fixes on the right side probably to and see if they can say you know if it's not portraying Gelo two? Of, those guys to play and I think they're also going to look for some edge up front and I think also they're going to see where everybody lands and then see. Okay. Are there trade opportunities for us now I could see them going after two of those right side defensemen instead of one big one assuming that they don't go all in on. Portrayal. You see them with the their first round, their newly acquired first round, pick and play. Come. Tuesday. I think they will. But I think it's got to be a deal that makes us say oh. Okay. I get that. Right. That's the Atlantic. Consumer already covered off the Tampa Bay lightning had now the Metropolitan Division and start with the Carolina Hurricanes Hey, what's happening with specialty cough and contract? So the hurricanes offered special coffee time seven and a half, and you know it's not a bad deal by any stretch of the imagination like to me. That's not you know the player is going to bet on himself and things he could do better to me. That's not like Carolina in salted him with an offer. That's their them coming in hot and and saying we can do this right now and I think the player chose to ban themselves. So I'm hearing it's going to be a short-term bridge deal and they'll go from there but I'll tell you this like I've heard that. They love the player. I think the player really likes it there. The player just believes he should bet on himself and I got no problem with that What else with Carolina. You know I think they're in online any I don't know if it's deal that went up paying really wants to do I think it's kind of like A. Net cash and? Maybe a defenseman bite. Higher level that. That Winnipeg wants their creative. The hurricanes you know one of the questions is, are they going to get Dougie Hamilton sign? No, he's coming up on his unrestricted free agency. He was on a lot of norris ballots and that's team were a lot of guys have taken team friendly deals. And we'll see I mean it's Dougie Hamilton's choice to make right. But to me, I can't see Winnipeg going for Dougie Hamilton the deal signed for one more year. pegues Mo but I think they're going to upgrade in goal if they can. They definitely had interest in Anderson. If the leaves decide to do that, as you said, nobody thinks a scar off getting beyond them in the draft if he drops to them no chance you know, I, I think they're going to be a team to watch I think they will look out there to try to add stuff columbus blue jackets speaking of Patrick Line. We talked about him last week and drew the line between Winnipeg in Columbus. What's the latest with Your Mayo? Kick Leinen I think they talked to Calgary about something probably a goalie. And I heard that's not going anywhere. Airports Line had a story the other day where you're trying to get his Ara done Dubois and Josh Anderson. So he knows what kind of Cap Room he's got. Anderson. Interesting I've heard lots of varying terms there. I. Think the player wanted real long-term and I'm not sure the team wanted to do that. They're happy to sign him but I don't think they wanted to sign him for like Max Max Max terms. So I think they're discussing some different ideas. Same thing with Dubai I like I. Think the tough thing for teams and players now is how many players are going to say I wanNA short term deal. So I can wait until we see if hockey comes out of this and the cap goes up a bit right. So I think that's going to be a challenge for teams but I definitely think he's online a I could see the jets asking for our inskeep type in Columbus saying we're not doing that I think Ryan Murray's out there like I said I think Florida has some interest in him. I think they're a really interesting team to watch I. Just don't know yet where the matches are. That's all. What about the New Jersey devils let's Let's get to them next and by the way just as an aside. Would there be a juicier place for Henrik Lundquist. To end up than the New Jersey devils what's happening with with new In Thomas Gerald, they're going to be a team to watch I. Don't think they're moving that seven pick, but they've got eighteen and twenty in. They're prepared to do what they've. Let people know they're prepared to do a lot of things with that. They're willing to go up. They're willing to go down there willing to trade it for players I. think that they've told teams. If it's for a player, it's for a player a younger player like. Six term team control that's what they want. You know I can see New Jersey taken a being interested in someone like Sergeyeva if he's available and like just on paper if you're Tampa and you've traded first rounders. In theory search for a first rounder deal at the minimum everybody else can fill in what they want is that enough is that not enough just in my brain that kind of a deal makes sense. Now, both sides have to want to do it. But New Jersey's look for de Tampa's needs cap room and you know it gets them a first round or I don't know that just might be in my head but it's the kind of thing I think about because I do think teams are going to ask Tampa search of playing behind headman in McDonalds is you WANNA play more But I think New Jersey is going to be very active I think they've got a lot of balls in the Air New York islanders big success this season certainly for the islanders were where next does that answer begin with? Matthew Barzel. Oh Wait Lula Morello calling the tell me everything's Okay Matthew Bars. Then what's the up to with him first of all I? Think they think they're really good close and he's not going to tell me but I do think the islanders the way that Lula Morello thinks. They're going to be involved in stuff this summer. The biggest question is their cap. You know Barzel again same thing with Barzel. I've heard the issue is all going to be term What is the term going to be on bars? Barzel is he going to be long or short, and again I think the only reason it's short is because a lot of these teams and these players are saying, let's see where we let's maybe punt the ball a couple of years. They've got to sort out PALIKHE. They've gotTA. SORTA pool lock. These are all valuable players whose contracts they they have to deal with. I'm really curious about all this. How are they going to navigate their caps situation but I've Seen Lulu? Morello around enough to know that when he thinks his team is good he goes for it and I think they like their team. So like if you told me that they were gonNA. Try to see if they could find ways to do a Tory crew Gra a Taylor. Hall or Crew for their power play or anything like that or a Patrick Line like that's his mo I don't know how easy it is or isn't to do like I said they got a lot of cap issues I just nobody is history that I always think he's in the middle of these things when he thinks this team is good he's told me that before when you think your team is good, you take your swings. it in the right now has twenty three, million dollars worth of cap space although there are some pretty big contracts that are on the horizon for them not just right away. The New York Rangers and let's pause quickly in say a couple of things about Henrik Lundquist who the team just bought out a couple of days ago he leaves The New York Rangers holding all the records holding the hearts of New York Rangers fans dear your thoughts on Henrik Lundquist and I guess fridge, this was probably the only way it was gonNA end. Well, I don't think he was willing to retire. You. Know at least not yet they couldn't trade 'em not at that cap hit not at that number. and. It just got to the point where there were no other options and you know the day will come where you know they put up his number and he goes to the hockey hall of fame and he will be honored and I thought the thing that was really interesting was tried to ask some people in around the Rangers you know what do you think Henrik dies and their answer was it's up to him to say and I thought that was a really nice classy way of dealing with it. Just let him do the talking. And now, what I think is going to happen is I think he's GonNa look around and he's going to see what the interest is. And kind of go from there I've heard that. If Vegas Trades flurry or doesn't keep lanner I wonder if they might have some interest in him. I heard that he'd had some interest in Arizona. I don't know if that would be the same because that team is going in a different direction now but I had heard from just a quality of life point of view He had some interest in Arizona but again, things are different there now. You you you mentioned new. Jersey I don't know it's like Josh Josh? Georgia's we're GonNa go to the leaves right I just think he's GonNa, look at what his options are and kind of decide from there. So The day they bought him out a thought about the story of Ed Johnson the last goal tender that there have been some goaltenders at Rangers fans certainly hold dear Mike Richter comes to mind. But jockan held a special spot and Rangers fans hearts and you know you talked about this on the podcast a few weeks ago you know going back and looking at that Rangers team like from the late sixties to the early seventies and they had the Stanley Cup final against the Boston bruins that team should have wanna cop like that team was that good. You pointed that out a couple of weeks ago and Eddie, Johnson, started to get injured and the team started to fall apart in nineteen seventy five. I mean Eddie's like the most popular player on the team they have to move on and they put him on waivers and the Detroit Wings claim him. I think it's like the next night or a couple of nights after Detroit is at Madison. Square garden playing the Rangers and the whole crowd chanting Eddie Eddie. You know they're doing the New York Rangers on their home ice every time anyone took a shot on Giacomo and he was getting booed players were scared to shoot on the Red Wings for fear of getting booed. That's how beloved Eshaq Amon was and the interesting way that that relates to this story right now. They waved at Jock Amon. To make room for this young hot shot goalie, they were going to rebuild around and it worked to some extent because he took the rangers, the Stanley Cup. Final in Nineteen, seventy nine, and that's now the president of the New York Rangers John Davidson. Tie that one altogether. All right. The rest of the New York Rangers. What happens? Well they've got a big cap situation for one year right now. You take a look at their buyout situation. and. For, this one year, the NHL salary cap is eighty one, million dollars for the New York Rangers it's under seventy. Because they've got lundquist buyout they've got shattenkirk's buyout. They've got spooners by out and they've got Gerardi's by Brad Richards doesn't count his was compliance. So they've got about thirteen million in buyout money there and it just shows you you know they didn't think they were going to be good yet and they get Panara N- other guys improve and ca boom things change. So the biggest questions are gonna be what are they thinking with? Ryan Strong One year away from unrestricted free agency are bright's. Anthony Di Angelo Albright's big number because he had a really good year I think those are the two kind of questions. You heard the Eichel Ranger. Things I. Think they checked in I think were one of the teams checked in. I wouldn't be surprised at all is when knows name was out there they checked in on that. You teams are always looking to get better at center. They're no different than anyone else. Philadelphia flyers we continue through the Metro. See the flyers are fascinating to me because chuck. Fletcher has kind said that he's going to be patient. He thinks this team needs to grow. They learn some valuable lessons and he wants to see where they take it and I think it's probably the right answer. It's because of who they've got and they're young talent the you're going to hear the mentioned in a lot of trae rumors and I'm not convinced they're going to do anything but I think because they have like they have young. They have young Ford's people are going to approach them. Like for example, they could do a line a deal. They could do Johnny Goudie deal easy. Easy. Kevin Hayes is there and him and good roll like that family. Tight. To Me Philly could make any trade the any trade they wanted to make because they have what other teams want. The biggest question is will the And Fletcher seems to indicate that he's willing to be patient but I do think other teams that have things. They WANNA move are calling Philly to see if they're interested. Philip. Myers is a restricted free agents does not I believe have Rates but there's someone that we've talked about him. Countless Times you on the podcast and you really saw in the playoffs there is someone that you can say, yes, you can see him playing on the right side with Ivan Provorov as a first pairing defenceman he's restricted the summer. Yeah. He does not have our rights Myers. You look at all those guys teams would want San Heim teams would want Myers like they got an costas bear. I think they're at a point now where that probably could happen but you know they've got guys people wine and Philly, knows that in their light if other people want it, why don't we just keep it? All right from the Philadelphia. Flyers, we head to the Pittsburgh Penguins where we know that Jim Rutherford does not sleep will thank God for Jim Rutherford. Righty makes all of our lives interesting. Yeah. You know the top thing I've heard with the goalies is that an and they they're trying to move one of them is that there's teams out there saying. There's so many free agent goalies. Why would I give up something for a goalie? So think what could happen is you know Toronto had kind of indicated to Anderson that. You're being asked about you were not looking to pursue this, but we're being asked about you and if the right trade comes along, you know we consider it i. think one of the things that Toronto kind of looks at is we're not dealing them unless we get something better but we're going to check and see what kind of happens after free agency has done. So I think Pittsburgh could be in that position. Jim. Rutherford, talk to Josh Yo from the athletic any kind of hinted. Well, maybe they might try to move Johnson or play on his offside. So I mean the one thing you know about the penguins is he's liable to do anything. So we'll see what he tries like he's he's unafraid. He's got the big brass ones and. I'm just fascinated to see it but the one tough thing I've heard is that. The issue with the goal is that Teams were trying to trade They may have to wait until the free agency set up kind of finishes. Talk, Peter Bill at a couple of weeks ago here on the podcast let's get to the Washington capitals. They WANNA keep Dylan. They'd like to keep Dylan I've heard that if it gets done, it's probably going to be somewhere in the three and a half to four million range. If they can get it done, they're trying to move money to me. That's probably someone like. I don't know what the market is forum, but I think they'd like to keep them if they can. I mean the other thing now is you know who's GonNa be the Goalie Combo with Samsonov next year it looks like he's going to go to free agency in they're gonNa see and I think the other question they've got is is what's Ovechkin number GonNa be how what's his number going to be an? Is He at a point in his career and I don't I don't know he's thirty five years old like at what point do you start to see Alex veteran just going on evergreen deals like Chara or mats Sundin before a just one year one year one year one, I I don't see it. You know I think him and Backstrom do WANNA tie each other end till we to each other I know that in business sometimes you've got to be ruthless by. It as long as Lovie doesn't go in there and ask for eight years at eleven thirty, billion dollars. You know he deserves every penny. He gets he saved that team. Yeah How much of the value of that team is tied up in everything's done they're total like as far as I'm you know even if he asked for eleven billion dollars like to me that guy deserves every penny he's GonNa get. And maybe he might not live up to it because you might you know might get older but you know the fact is like first of all who's betting against him and how much money are the capitals gonna make in the chase for Gretzky think of all the merger GonNa sell absolutely and the the attention gonNA create like as far as I'm concerned whatever he gets. He earned it. All right that's east flip over the western conference. Now, we'll kick it off with the central and the Chicago Blackhawks are they going to tear it down to rebuild or are they going to ask a couple of and say we still have nineteen eighty eight here and what's happening with Chicago? One of the things I think we were all kind of wondering about is they made some front office changes John McDonnell above Stan Bowman, and we were kind of wondering what that would mean in right now as we do this, it doesn't look like anything. So I assume it's business as usual. You know Kubelik Dylan's Strom. Golden decision is Crawford, I wonder about Colorado and Crawford. I know JOE SACK said they're not going to change their goaltending I. Don't like to call Joe Sacco. Liar. It seems kind of sacrilege and Anti Canadian but I've heard some rumblings about Colorado potentially being interested him. Initially the Crawford Chicago talks didn't go as well as anyone hoped they got some decisions to make here I. Think Chicago is going to be a fascinating team because you know Saad d keep them for one more year before as a Ufa or do you sort of move them. And see what you can get for him if Crawford's back or or are they going with sue ban call and Delia or they look elsewhere lake. They've got some really fascinating tough decisions to make and. I don't have a huge read on where they're going yet but I heard there was some interest in Crawford and I think that's kind of the first decision they have to make, and then a lot of other decisions will probably come from their. Thought. I'm Brent Seabrook and his future there, and if he comes back at six point eight, million, well, the one thing I heard Seabrook wise is he was looking at it like he finally gets a chance to heal and if you know anything about Brent Seabrook. He will refuse to give up you just won't it's and that's why I have a ton of respect for the guy and. It's a tough contract to move in this thing, any age and probably the best solution for does he comes back healthy and plays better. You mentioned your soccer second ago avalanche the next team here on the list and I can remember when it was. But on one of the podcast that we did this summer, you said watch Colorado yeah they're pushing it all in. I mean, look at their window, is there currently constructed? Gabriel Landis COG is up at a year McKinnon's up in three years and also I just look at the way they handled. Pinera and last summer they offer them four years at massive money. So they're creative. They think about things I know they said they're coming back with the same goal as I don't know how they can That's why. I. Think there's some interest in what potentially could be out there They've gotta get Ryan Grave Sign. I assume they will. They've gotTA GET Berkovsky sign. These are bright guys. The door off the door of I think is probably GonNa get moved hang on how many years have we been saying that now? I know. It's like people saying the Toronto, Housing Bubble's GONNA burst. They've been saying it for ten years in one of these days they're going to be right things. Right I. told you. I wonder if joe gets moved, that was the situation that was worth watching. Last winter they were thinking about it, but I still believe that I think these are they're all in years this year and next and I think they're going to operate accordingly. We talked about the Dallas, stars and the openness go to the Minnesota wild bill guarantee been anything but silent and no one thinks for a second that Minnesota wild are done making moves. Well, you know obviously I I'm a big believer in Michael Russo I. Think he's really plugged into White Minnesota dies and he's talked about this Dubrovnik and do not. Oh, the oldest San Jose. So it sounds like there's some legs to it. I think like I said, I, think Florida's looking around it. Then auto to they're trying assign Susie, and they had made some progress I know when it began both sides were optimistic they would get done but I think there's interest in him and that obviously can complicate things but I think they're going to try. You know they got a Lotta di they got a lot of the and he wants to change the mix and I think he's got a lot of balls in the air. I i. really do nothing that these guys would do right now would surprise me. I heard Florida had some interesting Luke Kuhn to but again, I'm not sure that Minnesota's GonNa do that I think he kind of wants to keep his eric's XS greenaway's cannons and kind of let them grow a bit to see you know what he's got in to me. That's probably the prudent move. Nashville predators a disappointing end of the season. I think Nashville could. Be Sneaky. And when I say, I, think they could be one of the busy teams out there. First of all David Toil has got no fear to make big moves and secondly I think he's got a lot of his guys and not so much. The I think those guys are his guys but I think the fords he's got a lot of them kind out there. And that doesn't mean he's GonNa trade any of them or be able to trading in them but I think he just wants to know what the value of his forwards are. There's been a lot of talk about the tourist buyout. They've considered it. I don't think they want to do it but I think other than that. He's Kinda thrown a lot of his forwards out there and. What's my market on these guys? And he's got only one no move clause well. Rene has got a modified no trade, but he's got only one no move clause on his team in that the Norris Trophy Guy who we all know isn't going anywhere anyone. Yeah. I I wonder how many contingencies about salary retention if they want to move any of their big forwards 'cause there's some there's some big tickets in his you know right now it's tough to move any big tickets but one thing we've learned about him as he's not afraid. So I I think he's got a lot of his forwards out there just to say hey. What's the market on these guys? Saint Louis Blues we talk so much about the future of Alex Putra Angelo and I guess in in some ways. Maybe, the future of Alex. Portray Angela with the Saint Louis Blues ties right into what does or does not happen with someone like Vince done who's a restricted free agent what's happening with Saint Louis? Well. I think the the portray Angelo thing. Obviously Lords over everything. You know why is he gonNa do I think the blues believed that portray Angelo wants to stay. I think portraying slow wants to stay but obviously, he's got his backup and he's not happy about all of this. There's a lot of tough negotiators here like people that you would want to send in on your behalf like saying. I've got a tough the old negotiate here. I need to send someone in there while the guys were rubbing portraying slow in the guy who's negotiated for Saint Louis, you would send those guys in there on your behalf and. I. I don't think they're going to bend on the bonuses at least not. To. What He might necessarily want so. Obviously. When it comes to free agency this is the number one storyline in the NHL. Elsewhere. You know I think they wanNA, find a spot for Cairo. Obviously Cinco isn't gonNA play probably the start of next year I. THINK THEY WANNA. Find a spot for Cairo I agree with you on done. I. Think that's going to be an interesting one to watch and see kind of where that goes pending. You know what happens around the rest of their roster I. Think they believe that their team is still good and next year could be the last kick at the can for Some of their guys steen Bosak you know they've got a big you FAA year gene. Schwartz. Who they think is a big part of their team to translate decision obviously overseas at all. And then kind of go from there once they figure out where that gets done or doesn't get done. From the Saint. Louis. Blues. Headed out of the Winnipeg jets and we've talked plenty about Patrick Line and where he may land is a chance that he just as in Winnipeg. Though we every couple of days we're talk about Lyonnaise going here and he's going there at the end of it. Can you just see him remaining? Winnipeg jet. I can but I don't think it's what anybody Kinda wants like. One of the things that I asked was did line A. Asked for a trade. And I didn't get any yes or no answers. But what I got was it's ambiguous. It's Kinda like he's not one hundred percent happy and they're not one hundred percent happy and they know they've got one more year to there's a big negotiations at six seven five now. And we better sort this before that negotiation is staring at us in the face. So I think there's a better than decent chance at happens because I think everybody realizes here that maybe it's this is the right answer and you don't want to faster or you know you you to run out of any kind of leverage or all the sudden now, we really have to deal him. I think there's a guy said a better than decent chance. It happens you know Brian Little. He's probably not gonNA play again unfortunately in in you wish for his health and he does what's best for his health they need a Sanur. We all know about their issues on the the right side of their D. although. That's a real credit to their scouting staff how well peon played for them. You know they got a lot of holes on they've only got one defenseman Morrissey signed after next year. So they got a lot of prospects but no, they don't really have anyone sign long-term. So I think it's a a situation there where. They're looking at it and they're saying this could solve some problems for us but you know I think they're swinging for the fences they're aiming high they don't WanNa, give them away and I think they kind of look at it. That Way Dylan Danilo was a nice fit coming over at deadline is he stay? He's an unrestricted well. I just think there's going to be a lot of interest in him right now because he's a good player is not going to cost you a time. And you know this is the mellows best chance after a lot of years trying to find a spot of really knowing he's confined to spot. So that's the challenge. All right. That's the central. When we return, we go over the Pacific as we're running down all thirty one teams and what's next thirty thoughts podcast. The. Past. took. Me To. Before the break you Heard Electric Fantasy by Logan Ledger off his self titled Album and Elia Fat let's get to the team that you say is open for business. Come draft day the Anaheim Ducks I've heard Anaheim's got a group of around. It's in the early tens. I think that's their ledge the draft drops a little bit. So I think they're ready to move down a couple of spots if the offer makes sense to them and they're really good at finding and draft players. So I generally put a lot of faith. In what they do if they think that's the case then I tend to believe. That's the case I think Anaheim looks at a lot of guys improving internally like Raquel had a rough year last year signed to a good contract. They're going to believe in him continuing to improve I think they look at their defense? I think they like their defense a lot. They like their goalie allied Gibson I. Don't expect them to do a ton. Of course, now, they'll surprise me and pull some big deal. But you know it's interesting Andy Strickland reported that they expect. David. Back is to play. Yes and there's another guy you wish all the best for his health. So I look at it like they're going to try to improve mostly from within and I haven't heard anything yet of them necessarily taking any big swings. Of course I could be totally wrong happens. They've done a wonderful job drafting in developing and players like maxim comtois a Isaac Lindstrom are like a real lot We've talked plenty about Sam Steele Max Jones. You've mentioned Troy Terry a few different times. Josh Mahara like this is an Anaheim ducks team that's loaded with kids. They've picked off from the draft and have helped develop in. San. Diego at the h they've done a real good job Elliott I. Guess the Big Story Around Arizona is Oliver Ackermann Larsen and it sounds more and more correct me if I'm wrong Blake a matter of where he lands. More. So than are the Arizona coyotes GonNa, move him how accurate is that? I think that one of the things that's going on is Ackman Larson would like some finality you to the situation I don't think there's any doubt that he would like to know if he's GonNa move that could happen pretty quick and I think the coyotes look at it to like if they're going to be able to do it, they would like to see if they. Can Add some picks for this particular draft. So I think this has added to the overall stress. If that's the right word of this situation you know as we reported on Thursday. ACKMAN. Larson had listed two teams that he was willing to go to one was Boston, and the other was Vancouver, and this can always change more teams can be added to it but at this point. In time That's all he's willing to do the problem of this for Arizona, is that neither one of those teams as a first round this year Boston's went in the cost of trade with Anaheim Vancouver's went in the J. T. Miller trade with Tampa Bay, and which is now belongs to. New. Jersey. So they don't really have a situation either one of these two teams. Were Arizona can add it's also complicated deal especially with Vancouver because of the cap situation you know Boston really clears up a year Vancouver they have some that will come off their books but they've got some big extensions coming in Paterson Hughes but I do think both of these teams have tried I think Boston tried and you've been on the Boston trained for a while Jeff. This can change in any second but I've gotten the sense they'd kind of backed off. I think Vancouver came in late. And because I don't think they really realize until later they were one of the teams he was considering and I think there's real interest there. I just don't know if they can do it. I gotta think that Eriksson would be part of the deal because his cash is below cap and that would appeal to Arizona. Bite Vancouver doesn't have a first or second round or this year. So what picks? Would they have to give up and what prospects but I do think Vancouver from a pure hockey point of view is interested in the deal. The question is if they can do it, the Boston thing just goes back to before he signed this most recent contract and if he was gonna go to market, it was widely believed that Boston had a whopper of an offer ready but they never got there. What about the oilers? In all of this we keep hearing the oilers name married to Olive Rachman Larson Fridge. There was a lot of talk that it was going to be a player, the fourteenth overall pick and Bouchard. I don't think Edmonton was going to do that. I really don't think it was to could it be one or the other when it comes to the prospect and the pig maybe but I don't think they were gonNA do prospect and fourteenth overall pick I. I engine was interested at this point in time he's not willing to waive but I don't think they were going to do all that I heard that's not what the orders were willing to consider too much. For living and the Calgary flames what are the decisions here? What's next? There's some GM's in this league that kind of make the league goal when it comes to trades and stuff and tree living is one of those guys. He's kind of one of those guys who's in the middle of everything and and I think he's got a lot going on I. mean we're wondering about Guerrero and tree living has made it clear. He's not making trade just to make a trade if he's GonNa do that deal then it's going to make sense to all of us when we see what it is I, think he's really looking at his defense Hamernicks a free agent Brody's of free. Agent? I checked a couple of times and I heard as we record this I heard there was still a chance that brody comes back although I wouldn't WanNa, put it on a percentage, but I think it's safe to say that Hamernicks going elsewhere I've heard some rumblings about hathen. I've heard he's in on just about every goalie their paws on. Hannifin there for a SEC, Shir? That's a name. It's been out there for a while. This isn't recent. It goes back to the Jersey deal when they were talking about Taylor Hall Right? Because I think that deal when they were talking about it was Taylor Hall and Batman for Bennett and Hannifin. Now I don't think benefits going anywhere now I think he's starting to cement himself as. A real big part of what Calgary dies and he signed for another year at a good number and he's a senator who can also play the wing but I do think he's got his hands in a lot of things goaltending defense the whole thing. I, don't know what to say about that. He's been linked to them before I think Calgary's in the middle of a lot of stuff Edmonton oilers. There's another team that's kind of in the middle of a lot of stuff start with a cleft bomb. That's kind big news. I haven't been told it's the shoulder I assume it's the shoulder. Think it is but nobody will exactly confirm it. When Oscar cleft bomb came back to the return to play this year some of the people around the organization including players said, he just didn't seem like himself. Like cleft bomb is like he's a pretty popular teammate I know the media loves dealing with them. The enthusiasm that he normally has for the game just wasn't there and they were all kind of wondering what's going on here and now I think we know the answer I don't think he was healthy I don't think he was comfortable and it really affected his game. He wasn't himself, and so I think he's considering some surgery that could knock him out for a chunk if not all of next season. So that's kind of what's going on here. He's GonNa make that decision and the oilers are going away what's going to happen around that? First of all my limited dealings with cleft bomb I've really enjoyed dealing with them I wish him the best. But all of a sudden, they could have a big hole and they're kind of figuring out what they're gonNA do with that. They started talking about an extension with Ryan nugent Hopkins. He wants to stay I think they know that this is a guy who's really loyal to the oilers I. Think they want to get that done. What's happening with yesterday? I have heard this rumor that coming back and signing for a month now and hasn't happened. So that leads me to believe that he's coming back at some point. They're just trying to work it all out, and also I think teams have talked about trading forum. My biggest question is, does he want to come back to Edmonson? and. I think he would prefer a fresh start but Edmonton doesn't like the value they're getting out there. You know my biggest question is, what's that not so much to the oilers WanNa back the other players want him back. That's one thing that's kind of never discussed here with the oilers or never discussed with a lot of teams. We've heard this in players go to coaches management I don't WanNa play with this guy, I. Don't want this guy it's never been talked about with Jesse Palmer V. so what are you saying that they don't want him back I don't know I just think as we also reach for answers why it hasn't worked out and he kind of says the right things publicly. Could this just be a case where? Some guys on the team just flat out said to play with this guy. and. Why would that be the case? Well he does have a certain reputation of being challenging to play with his difficult player to play with. I don't know I just wonder where that hasn't been more of a source of conversation and I may be way off on it but those whispers have been out there for a while. I mean, maybe we'll find out. You are the one thing I always say is don't give up on young people. Unless there's a real reason to give a I'm not in that room. I. Don't know but I always put myself in the shoes of what I was like nineteen, twenty five like I. Think it's such a mistake sometimes to give up on young people but they know better than I do. From Edmonton we the Los Angeles Kings second pick overall on Tuesday. So. Here's what I hear about La. And this is mostly other teams talking about them. The Los. Angeles. Kings can do anything they want to do. They have cap room. They have talented players, younger and older. They have centers, especially young ones member rob, Blake telling us can never have too many centers. That's the word I get on La. They can do anything they want to do they WANNA trade for Patrick Lane. Patrick Lane they wanna can't really just call him Patrick Lane I should fired for that. They wanted to trade for Patrick Line a they can do it. They want to trade Johnny Guterro they can do they want WanNa trade for anybody, they can do it. The question is do they think it's the right time for them? And at times over the past year, they have told teams it's not the right time for us But if they decide, it's the right time or there's something out there they want they can do whatever. San Jose Sharks. Disappointing last. season. Plenty of question marks a team that looks this good on paper should not be this bad on the Ice San Jose. Will first of all, we're all wondering what the lobont contract that's wrong with my pronunciation today pronouncing all these names wrong. I'm tired the we're all wanting to bank contract is going to be right? Yeah. One of the things that you know. Obviously, we've mentioned the Dube Nick Denardo. Things that happened they're definitely looking for a goalie. There's no question about that. They're looking for someone to back up Martin Jones and somebody who will give them minutes. F- like one of the things I heard they might do is, will they move some of the guys like down at the bottom of their roster? They maybe like a Marcus Sorenson or something like that to clear some room to do some other things. Like that's one of the things I'm wondering that they're going to do because I heard they're looking for wingers some scoring, and we're kinda going to go from there I think further to Kevin, the bank that's North American pronunciation of the name remember John Bartlett asked him but because he has a Slovakian background and if you WANNA be technical, it's levels. Johnny was told you sound like, James, bond. Sean Connery James. Bond Circa nineteen sixty five we are curious about that deal cup more squads here. Vancouver connects for each. You know like I said, I think Dave had conversations about all recommend Larson I don't know if they can make that fit. But I think they've tried at least a see what the talk would be. I. Don't think they WANNA trade besser I i. really don't I think they'd prefer to keep them in kind of see where that goes. Virtanen. I think they'd like to try to keep them but they realized that may not happen but they've told teams, they WANNA make a hockey deal. Mark, their number one priority but they know they're betting against They're they're going up against a pretty hot market for him. I think they'd like to keep Tan of, but again, they're thinking that they might not be able to beat with the market is I think stature is going to end up going. It all depends in online. Just what can they do at the bottom of their roster? Can they move anyone? Are they going to buy out anyone? Finish up with the Vegas Golden Knights. You've talked with Alex transload to them. What other business I e goaltending has Kelly mccrum have in front of them. Number one is what he's GonNa do in goal and number two is what happens. If portray Angelo is available what do they have to do I think Vegas is a lot going on and I think they are active in saying what our options. If we have to do something here, you'll also got assigned Chandler Stevenson who has arbitrates. And he played really well for them. One of the things I think teams are kind of looking at is, can they trade guys two teams like Detroit and Ottawa, and then have those teams flip guys elsewhere lasorda using them as a landing pad to eat some salary. Now you have to sweeten it for those teams. But like that's what I wonder. If team like Vegas is considering that they can move some of the salaries that they might need to move I. Think they've got a lot of balls in the air between the goaltending and the fit they want to add a right shotty. Only have white cloud who shoots rate and that kind of got them a bit in the playoffs. So I think whether it's portray Angelo or somebody else. That's very much on their raider. that's right and let's talk a lot about Nick Egg big defense prospect coming in. There's another left hand shot on the horizon for for Vegas looking for the right He's good points. I think probably call this edition of three hundred thoughts empty the notebook anything else you think we should be. Apprised of this week fridge. I. Think the other thing that someone said to me that I left out on my blog that I thought made a lot of sense is that you have to look at all trades with the expansion draft in mind absolutely everything now is is to Seattle every move under the umbrella of Seattle is coming. That's a great point. Also Elliott, we do need to give credit where there's excellence and that was this year's your end montage is always one of my favorite thing. It's always bittersweet, right? 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"How to Start the Year Off Physically, Mentally and Spiritually Ready"

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"How to Start the Year Off Physically, Mentally and Spiritually Ready"

"Right i heard the song shine. Shine this year. Twenty nineteen and your host for the run. The jews series bid cast twenty nineteen special edition for february black history month coming at you or mental spiritual and physical health awareness this month. We got a special special guests for the first ever video. Cast for the the run the jews series that. We're gonna be launching throughout the month this year. We got my my main man mr brandon. Magic don- good. You be good seeing you but those that didn't see flight This is a dynamic young brother young king. He's out here in the community all about not just the physical wellness but definitely mental and spiritual wellness. I came across him We've worked together definitely gonna be doing some projects together in the near future with argue and young adults need real passionate about what he does and also about educating our people and just people in general about the importance of their health and wellness so without further ado. I'll let you introduce yourself be so. Hey everybody my name is branded. Brandon may Twenty five giorgio born and raised live in florida about five years I'm a couple of things fitness coach online and wanna won the children's book author. Vcx exercise and also mentored his at elementary school my odor laments school And also i'm degree graphic designer finish. School grabbed his mission. So i have small class to that as well absolutely said. It's the man of many talents. Need needs educated job. Those that are watching definitely reach out to him where he's going to let you know how to connect linked him on all the social media platforms but without further ado. We're gonna be talking again about a mental spiritual and physical wellness This evening thank you all for tune-in feel free to share or like or us though is emojis on the bid cast that we're doing facebook live and be live or this evening. We got Mr brandon nashik. Who's going to be talking to you all about his profession of being a personal trainer. Slash fecal us last entrepreneur and so the first question. What is evening a why. Why do you personally think that it's important for people to Have their health and wellness as a priority. Why do you think it's important for people to make their health and wellness priority. Well one thing of it this way. Our bodies literally off. I give sponsor ability You know if you're not healthy is you know if you're physicality is enough to far if your cardiovascular Far you can't cohen fully enjoy quality of life You know a lotta people in misconception. That eating old is just normal but in actuality are is really meant to move you know. Throughout the day the world has made society sit down could be in society so we have to work out. We have to exercise. Point to keep our bodies nice apar- just moving in you know. Eating decently i mean will really keep you. I mean healthy. Immune system going throughout the year and now our own kind of i guess the meeting. I feel healthy. You know get checked out. Go get a fit call states something like that but just moderate exercise maybe three times a week. Cardi minutes you know eating. You know decently at least monday through friday something like that or having days he'd be healthy so absolutely can. I'm just. I'm just coming from the gym. You see me be with the smoothie. I got the green smoothie machine going coming straight out of la fitness. You know how we got protein of those that are at a bid of people that are in the gym shot. Vegans out there be knows trying to convert them a little bit to go vegan vegetarian. He he may. He may convert over soon restaurant. Yeah yeah so definitely. I heard you speaking a lot about At least the minimum of three days a week on thirty minute upper each session at least having some form of movement. What are some things that you would recommend us especially to even some of your clients but those that may not be used to being in the gym let alone being outdoors working out at least thirty minutes three times a week or for one i would say you don't necessarily need the gyms emphasize i mean you could use your body weight to use your house. I mean you know when. I first started exercising. I was exercising at home I was doing what he called. What the insanity program by sean tear probably know about that or isn't ever done entire life telling you But just use them abide away. I lost twenty pounds or two months cat apps first time very tone issues my own body weight so really as a beginner. You know if you're trying to just have like three days Thirty minutes very simply put. We want to split up You know where you're working on maybe chest shoulders and triceps in. Maybe we work won't back and biceps than a lower body that we're working more lakes and then of course you know your core you can cooperate with any of those days At least you know about three times a week For yet you know it's very simple. Squats are very good lunches. very good. jump squats holding the swath physician. Calf raises you can do all that all byways I mean shoot like push today because practice pushups or if you can't necessarily hold by the way lean against the wall for shop wall until you're strong to actually push off the ground. I mean there's so many things you can do I mean if you're gonna work out your back you could lay on the ground into an exercise spot. Man's look it up. When you lay down angrily raise up and squeeze the back. There are so many ways to just improve health and fitness. You small things assistant so remember this small changes to your body whether it's nutrition wise or exercise wise will make a difference in the law. I marching those small changes. Add up y'all for those that are listening it just making that first step and then continuing even when you fall down or failed this people keeping it pushing keeping moving and so even with what you were saying with that when you go about Getting your clients because for those that may not know Brandon as a personal trainer with helping personal fitness also offer He's the entrepreneur and a speaker of for when you are seeing potential plants to or even outdoors on. What are some things that you are looking for for your potential clients. That have in so what i'm looking for you so you're asking. What am i looking for them to have. Or what are they looking. What am i looking for Well for one. I'm looking for combination. you know one thing stand that. I'm a motivator. I'm a person that motivates people in the heat of exercises like that a lot of full their motivation from me. One thing i'd like to teach my clients tramway clients is personally added you spent online all right our mindset. If i mind isn't in this. Our body gunawan follow through the conditioning period. You know a lotta positivity Teaching on inches really let them solidly know that they will goes as their. You know Progressing so talk to you. Know determination of motivation If they don't have that in then we work on building that up. What really that. I mean. that's all i want. All my clients have a desire to get healthier and start from there Everything else you know will come with it as progress so absolutely excellent and then even this tag tagging on with that for some of your woman clients who are women That may lack a little bit of of self confidence or even in being able to work out in front of others at the gym. Like wooder some motivators. Some jewels keys. That as you give them to help them feel comfortable about getting when the gym also being active around others. Yes oh yeah. Of course like i said you know if you are shy person you know done this. You have to be in a jimmy home with if you do. Maybe you need that push. You feel a little bit motivated when you're around people exercising I mean really you just have to yet to you. Have to zone out you know. Don't worry about people pushing music in there in years in there in just get it done i mean like i said it's all about mindset. I mean shoot by your shirt that says do start exercising like white. You know yoga's creative ways to keep people off of you But i mean that's really it you know when it comes to communist jamie. You know understand that. Because i've been through that you know myself in all it isn't even just women. I mean guys. I really actually right before. I was talking to you. I was gonna fitness consultation with one of my instagram followers. highest full seventeen years old. you know week. Connect the artist you know. He's actually drawing some stuff for me but you know he's not necessarily Doesn't necessarily want to be in a gym like that. You know each Come comfortable at and things like that. So you have to. You have to asti. You have to do it night. He said it best. When i first oregon gym i was insecure. I know what i was doing. I literally going there. It one machine hit a machine go next by the one. Not only the number one. And i wasn't confident what i was doing. You know i still had the whole man booth thing my belly was still orlando and little bit. You wanna take my shirt off and things like that but it's a process you've gotta give yourself time you have you have to commit yourself like a self commitment. I'm going to give myself this amount of time. Deadly see progress in. Just give yourself at thomas progress and your mind will come. Start coming around your. You'll start gaining more self motivated and becoming less intimidated as you progress. You just have to allow yourself to cook there and then of course may be have a coach you know if all of spills aba coach somebody who could be by your side as you exercise. Find a work partner that you trust you know. There are a lot of ways that you know. Get you motivated in overcome this insecurity. They right there because a people of ours and winning county those who are coach especially wet rid of fitness coats whether it's a workout coach on twitter. What are some of things that you think people those who are saying that they actually do anita coats. What are some things that they should ask a potential coach that they want to work with an all things that should look for in their coats. I love this question. I was just talking about it this to somebody the other day so one for one thing that. I've heard a lot about. The fitness industry is that it's very oversaturated. Personally in a sense. I don't agree in. Let me ask you why we still have more healthy people on this planet. We have fit people that fit community. It's still not a very big community. Honestly i mean with so many people on this planet. We need a lot of people. Aren't we need a lot of coaches because we have a lot of people that are gonna fit with certain coaches every coaches that match personnel. You know. I can't take every single cry. I mean some clients may be intimidated by me. When you're looking for a coach first thing you want to look for in this saturated community. Is i one as educated. You have a lot of instagram trainers. In sense of people who picked up the dumbbell school by the big somebody else just because you can get yourself. It doesn't mean necessarily other people ought to where they need to be so look for somebody who's educated smutty has certification arsevhal on to. You know you wanna make sure they got some transformations other developed. Make sure they have some experience. You know that a game that they can actually get you to. Your goals are shoot number three. I mean just talk with that coach. You know kind of the personality. See if you do a free fitness consultation with free training session. A hit their style down pat. Save you actually match There's definitely you know a lot of ways that you want to go about learning about your fully. Commit to a lot of ways that i personally like to make my clients will comfortable a while more online classes. We always go video consultation like this before onboard. We talked to get to know each other a little bit so we get more complex a relationship. You're dealing with somebody who is working with your body. It's a very personal thing you know so make sure you just have to fill out. Make sure the just the right fit for you. You know absolutely like customize dislike what you're saying you gotta customize your coach to make sure they're getting the benefit out of it just as much as a you're wanting to to get the benefit out of net mutual exchange but knows. Just be tuning in. We're talking to mr brandon. Nashik a who is a personal trainer. He's the author of professional speaker and also entrepreneur. He's active in the community here in metro atlanta. We're talking about all things Health well health and wellness from a physical standpoint. I all the way down to a mental and spiritual standpoint. We just went over some things that you want to look for in a coach that you are wanting to hire for your personal your personal development in the gym or your health and fitness. So you want a one. You can look at the notes and look where certified coach one that is. Certified as brandon said in their particular Industry of fitness or Personal coaching role newell for one who is educated in that particular field. Check the resume. Don't catch anyone. That's office out of the street. That's in the hair salons nail salons trying to recruit red box at all at the mall trying to pass out their cards and and you don't even know what their what their work ethic is. they talking about. Look on their aegean account. But the do your research check him out in number three. You want to look for one who can help you get your own personal goals. So you have to tell him. What do you want out of this coaching session. In an for four and five make sure you are trying to not spend money right out for it if they are offering a free consultation skype via may. Md over the phone of the in person. Try to get one. That offers free consultations for the first session and then number five if you don't have good vibes if you don't feel comfortable with that particular coats you need to hit a is always going to be a better coach as brandon said. So you want to have the right fit. Not nacho cousin nacho nacho x. your ex a someone that you again are getting good vibes from in good yields from yet this is injustice. Such that you know is not necessarily all about of course. He's the better coach. You know you do have coaches long. It's going to be a coach. Better another one but definitely when i say you know what's the right fit your planet fitness minded people. Got your gold's gym minded people. You wanna planet a planet fitness trainer. Who's not gonna do anything intimidate you or do you want to go trying to. Who's been a really really really were-they what's your personality like you know. So that's what you gotta look. That's a great voice. They right there. 'cause that was the next question that i was going to ask coming up when you're looking for jim we we know that this is of course the beginning of the year when a lot of sales Persons or personnel. Jim are getting their number stack for those. That had that new year's resolution saying they wanted to hit the gym hard in january going into february. They still may have held on for a couple of weeks for january going into february. By what what gyms the you recommend especially to get the most bang for your buck or even if they're even if they're not. Let's say bodybuilding a gold's gym gyms. Would you recommend so when it comes to it right now me personally. My favorite type gyms smaller gyms laugher started working out. I started with snap fitness and then after snap fitness. now i'm not anytime fitness and those are two small gyms me personally. I like smaller gyms the most because i feel like you get a much more intense work I feel like there's less people so you know you don't have as mean as attractions. You've that You know you have equipment close to secundo certain that says things like that But small gyms like anytime fitness planet with us Snapping is a higher quality. Usually now again. That's my personal preference. You got again of what. Jim was going to say you are you. You know if you go to golden type of person right the best person. i'd say go to. The gym is typical bodybuilder. Or just Complete confidence whose who just you know. They liked the live heavy. They liked the sweat. They liked the senator weights. They like all of that. That's the La fitness larson. You know if you're counted at person or if you like in high Elephant is almost like a social club. He likes sports. Play some basketball things like that Pools things like that. If you really like a lot of reichel recreational activities or even like a ymca right you know 'cause they sometimes have that And even boys and girls club kids So you know if you're a planet fitness minded person if somebody a little bit you know. Not you know you kinda intimidated by crowds or you're intimidated by the big bodybuilders type person or snap anytime just might be best for the snap. Misses any type of never crowded playing. Get a little act but you know is still have that note. Jim imitation thing right. Though is all about like your personality really look at what the mission statement is an apostate a tour. You know always take a tour of the jim always looking the guy in of course in conjunction with their memberships and make that choice but if you options always check all your options out in that area never started that one gym that i looked at great. That's a great point you hit on and even as part b. for that because i know a lot of friends i'm sure you know a lot of your clients. They are jim number multiple gyms. That'll say for example. Like i have a few friends. That are jim members at la fitness in planet fitness. Do you suggest these suggest that Particularly clients of yours on join multiple gyms or would you recommend they stay at one gym especially if they're using one more than other to save money at least those wanna but yet you're on a budget maybe gotta like that. You gotta like that quick. Look if you have silver sneakers or if you can't get so sneakers get because you can a a free membership every single jim. I got sober sneakers Insurance do that. Free gyms. But no i i would always recommend sticking with okay so it depends if you are trying to coach. Go your coach. You know 'cause that's really guiding you know so your your workout But if you're working out by yourself not just take the one. Gym is simple You know if you are not a person is traveling a lot you know. Go with the gym net. Cost less. because you don't get multiple access to multiple you know you can only go to that gym. Really you know you just gotta really figure out your budget first of all what you for ending and then You know forgotten about a week or in what you know. Jim you want but definitely definitely definitely german question man. A lot of do you. You were hitting it just if they should have just a few gyms versus one. Jim based on jim this best. I mean you can become a part of a franchise you get access to multiple gyms do that you But if you But if you know he just got your mom and pop jim around the corner and you know you're not much of a traveler. I mean the national workout for you to you know just a horse realized what your lifestyle is how much you're traveling you know and to see where you're at is funny said that because that's the main reason i join. La fitness man goes actually A couple of years ago. My mom had a A membership with crunch fitness and so they got of course absorbed or bought bought out by la fitness. Who find out all the fitness centers. Here in georgia. So i've just came up under her and she has access to literally all l. a. Fitnesses for thirty dollars a month rate outside of new york city. Those that are listening. Just like brandon said it's really based off your personality. Are you working out. At other gyms of the franchise that you attend in the state you live in when you travel are you. Are you wanting to have access to these facilities whether they have who a shower a asana. Any type of indoor assisted lockers and things of that nature has those are amenities that you may not want to pass up. Yeah i will. I will say. I'm bias insane on the against planet fitness because i feel like they're bringing down the import in stand with standard of what fitness. Because i don't wanna be that sound like that meet. Hey that just you know just wants to throw dumbbells all over the place. I'm must say go for if it works for you if it works for your pockets interest in working out anywhere. Expect you know I make a lot of jokes about planet fitness in. There are a lot of jokes about planet fitness in the in the community but at the end of the day. If you're taking your exercise and fitness seriously it's respectable you know so don't get caught up with the donkey. Caught up with their with the talk about the aussie. Lloyd is over here saying that planted a boy. He knows we work. A lot of people would have been just like you said going in on planet but it it really is just like brandon said based off of. You're not like really really. Where do you wanna get plugged into because some. Some fitness center is better than no fitness center. Right me right about that man right about that. Ask shift gears a little bit. Because i know for those who have been tuning in. We've been talking heavily about a physical fitness and also a personal fitness. And getting your body in shape getting yourself worked out Basically taking your health and wellness series. Which is the series that we are running all throughout this month for the run. The jewels of mid cast a series of that we are hosting and so when it comes to consistency is what your clients are. Be what what amount of time. John was called the l. Over there i can. I can saw reserve serves the cast that poll just in case got now. It's all good. We we get into workout in on this alive but when it comes to the timeframe because a lot of people i know. I'm sure asked you the same way i know. I always emend debates with friends. Like how long do you really think a client or anybody. That's winning to start out. Needs in order to be consistent. It s seeing results basically at seeing their results that they want to see for their personal goals. Will i mean you should really start. Seeing results were talking about results. You should really start seeing results. We first week. You know when you first start. I mean you know if you you're on the diet that you should be you're on an exercise program should be. You know you should see your body flush out a lot of junk that its case up so you might drop like five in the speaking depends But you know let's say you have a fat loss. Go right and you're trying to lose body. Fat will fact Fat actually barnes a lot. Faster and muscle will build so bad laws. Though you know like. I said when i first started i actually lost ten pounds and you know my first off. Right where twenty pounds and two months and that was from doing certain training When i took my you know my you know my after's week by week. I already itself earth week that my love handles other. You know so you lose body fat you. She's stark just like that. Now you're building muscle muscles a little bit. Harder added more patients for that type of The first week is going to be the hardest. Both sort of your biden's vision Now the great thing when it comes to lifting weights is new purse year. Took the greatest gonna make such fast progress trend wise. You should see yourself getting stronger within the first week. I mean you know the second week. You should already start feeling your form getting better with exercise. Who's your muscles getting stronger than that first month. When you're muslim nicely addition down the real gang start having consistently started getting stronger. A lot quicker I mean and then you know. of course they started. Slow down as you start the plateau but you start seeing progress any going. You're doing within that first two weeks first week we can have two weeks. You're doing it right right right rushworth. If you don't wanna right yeah as far as giving yourself a at times a really dedicate and see that progress executed at least a month and give it a month. I mean come on now you can do. I mean you know where you're trying to lose body fat and lesean titles lose a lot of it is gonna come off quick. You know so. I mean you should be able to stick with that you know you see three to three thousand one week. Oh shoot someone's working in our next week that same way and lift it and it's a little bit easier coaching worthy. Which may last month right. Yeah absolutely manner and so those that are listening minimum. You start seeing results. As as as brandon said within a first week timeframe of you actually hitting the gym consistently at least three three days of thirty minutes a day per week in an also minimum heard it from the trainer. Mr brandon nashik minimum. You should see your progress in ultimate result. Starting to take form by the first month you can. We see results in the month. If you are serious about putting in the work is on echo. What's that comes. There comes with a lot. Of course i know push back for those that whether it's men or women that are looking for those get those get fit quick schemes whether it's the different the different medication whether it's the different products whether it's the different liquids a what what do you say especially as a trainer for those that are get get slim a quick throw throws bad is bad me. Tell you something. Okay everybody's body's everybody's body is different. There is not one single person on his planet has the same body as somebody else who's identical. Every single person is different really does not make that much sense to release fit a whole bunch of people into one box of eating. Everybody can't do a kilo diet. Everybody can't do a paleo diet what you wanna do the best way to go about any goal. We're trying to When you're trying to When you're trying to put together as i gotta find your matthew are. I never fly dive into that myself when you lose weight. Two facts right realize the first the first pounds after losing all the waste and water weight Caked up your body. Okay when you first losing. Were you lose weight too fast. The moment you carve it back up or you put something in your body or you started slowly back habits you blow up just like that gradual changes what you want because gradual changes will allow your body to stay at where we've gotten into longer rather than ryback at the moment you mess up when i know what i'm talking to my class and we're creating their meal plan you know i'm asking age. Note their body weight activity level of that stuff. I find a macro nutrients which is their calories. Carbohydrates proteins fats. Those are what you want to find. I have your nutritionist. Or you're trying to find those forty course. Create that meal plan around those mac roads when you're actually eating a meal plan might humil- plan. You're you're doing mac routes. You're eating macaroni. You just have food or now so you wanna find a macronutrients meant for your specific body. Falko coach talked to You know what nutritionist. Somebody finals for you and then eat around those to make those will change his Best free advice. I can give you my clients my fitness pal. It's very trusted app on his free. Download it sign up. It'll give you a nice calorie estimate for whatever go you it tells you know while in its s to tell him that app again to be so that so that they can type it in type it in front of it was the app that they can use this free my business. How finished foul. It gives you a win. Ask you some questions about your body in. It gives you a nice calorie estimate built around what you should be eating. As long as you're sticking to the estimate you should gain weight or lose our lose weight right but of course you know you do need somebody still figuring out your carbohydrates proteins. Fats you can find your calorie estimate by yourself. You know pretty decently if you want something definite. You'll need a coach with if you want. You know those definite proteins cop fats as well. Now you're gonna need coach buying those forty but I would suggest my fitness pal. You know start anybody off. When it comes nutrition excellent excellent point be with that so for those that again are watching. That are looking for those get slim quick schemes. those get quick schemes is about the process. You all those other snakes. Those are snakes salesman as they say in the shark thing. Those are the snake salesman's that are trying to again. Get you in your body out of whack by wanting to take the easy way out which Which leads to the next question. Be which i get a lot run not just women but even some men of those that are looking to whether it it is to go the surgery route like our roker or elder with bite with five pass or whatever the guy the gastro surgery what what you say what you say about no nope nope no you know. Think you know you know. One thing. I've actually learned is that is not even in some with some people. It's actually even a cultural thing to actually that you know look. Don't do that to your body because you don't stay you know we don't we don't we can keep our. You know all the way up until we finally pass but you still get older. All right boasts that silicon gonna take the exact same way. No matter how many squash you you might keep some shape saying but not you. Don't go enjoy the process. You'll appreciate the progress that you've made when you put in the work a lot more when you've actually gotten to that goal rawal hopefully not blood sweat in maybe some tears too because i shed a tear before i can admit that right now When you finally get to that moment you feel so great in incan. Think of the hair. The character we're you know we're talking about healthy right. You increase your mental health. When it comes to exercise your mentality become stronger. If you just knowing you know you do surgery you're still gonna have those same insecurities i promise you you're not gonna you know you're not gonna you know i promise you you're not gonna those same execute as you've had you got gotten surgeon are still gonna be there I mean you know you see a lot of them go along overtime. You know some of the mole. Some of them. I mean if you really like just look up you know those surveys. That have gone wrong. It can a whole lot more of applications. You know In an awkward gotta think about abortion analogy the body changes. You know the body you know always changes especially when it comes to women you know you get a surgery in you know. I can't say. I know everything about the universe is a woman you know the woman's body by you know you get older or you get you know or what have you get. You know you know assault. I'm not necessarily sure. How many ways though service can affect you but you know in the long run is not gonna last you wanna create it as much Those ways trainers those those. Don't get rid of that. Those little squeezer muslims together. Squeeze your bones together. They shake your body. You know they move your organs around you know. Does that sound like the healthy route. You know so think about this thing. About how much you appreciate getting your goals. Who actually put in the working rather than you know getting surges because even though surgeries need maintenance you know no even those need mehta. So they ask nasty. Appoint beacon had literally Arguments with with multiple mostly mostly women not a lot of men but multiple women when it comes towards them even suggesting to take that easy way out versus putting in process putting in the work in. Somebody's woman be our appleans. Like you and myself better. That are trying to take that easy route to go ahead. I need to move about fifty more pounds. But why re real quick his tummy tuck. Yeah yeah yeah exactly your cardio is still going to be. Jack is jaw. If you're five hundred pounds and you get five hundred all what what read fifty pounds ripped off you right you. Just don't you think you're gonna be able to run. A hard is about exploded. Okay why exercise you have to progress the body. You're not going to feel better after you may look closer to how you want but the feeling you won't be stronger you won't feel better is which by throw a man it's it's it's it's the best route it's best boy. No for those that are looking to do surgery. You heard it not from myself from the train. At a certified trainer mr brandon. Masic was third now on. I don't wanna be you know attack on the do you name at the. They can tell them what to do. Justice vice taken by mr mr brandon. Take it believe it. So let's switch gears. Because i know we're on we're on the final. The final run through when it comes to a detoxing and also fasting Do you suggest that your clients if they have never done a detoxing or or fasting or cleansing before the that they are are trying out detox fast in their cleansing. Or do you do it yourself as a personal fitness coach and trainer. So i'm gonna be completely honest. I have actually never really put myself with a our core detox Now shoot i made. I might need one But here's what i say. It is actually it was. I was Detox you get all that stuff flush actor system a lot faster. So you're right to the body fat burns on you. Know we can have a lot of stuff sitting our system for a long time I mean shoot even say beep can sit in your you know your life. Mott's united top minutes so yes starting with the detox. It would be good. I should put myself with talks Detoxing you know you can do that. Which water limited water. I mean there are so many different dougherty can go through What i'll say is don't be going by those big hundred two hundred dollar. The talks crashes. You're wasting your google not like nice notable taxes and. I mean you're going to have you know Bodybuilding dot com is gonna have some. I have seen detoxing information on there. Just make sure you're getting you know you're detox tired credible source but i was adjusted most. Definitely there's nothing there's nothing you know You know that really do the harm. You can just be careful with it. don't starve yourself. You know And fasting of course fasting is great to fasting is really going to build a supplant me. Personally i actually intimate fasting. On intimated fasting is when you take a eating eating window out of a twenty four hour day in only eat within that. So let's say. I get a muscle busy workout and eat breakfast out. Eleven ended out loud today. So seven o'clock. Here's my eight hour eating one now. I'm fasting last the night for those six sixteen hours at teach my body to burn. Fat facet of skip over cards gets a fat to burn more rapidly so in a minute. Fascinates great tool eight hours suggests no more than that if you have the discipline to sometimes do six hours or even four hours only recommended after. Gpa do that But it's it's it's good for you. You're still in the same on nutrition. So it's it's not how you eat. Each winning that's intimate bassett. Is incorporate what area. Current diet is intermittent fasting. And i guarantee you see body fat loose a little bit of basta absolutely but knows that that have not fasted before you just heard from miss the brain. The trainer like is nothing wrong with fasting in naturally. Cleanses out your body it so even if you're not doing it on a spiritual level with daniel fast at your church if you go to intermittent intermittent fasting is also an option especially for those. That are just starting out. Yeah i know a lot of people have been on. The daniel fast told me the progress. I'm like hey you know keep going going for keep pushing you know i mean obviously the spirit the spiritual health that you get from it is the best i mean that the spirit or spiritual was the first thing we wanna take care of so as and for that reason is even better but You know you can definitely use fasting for the physical health as well. Answer of course again build up that mental discipline all these things that we're doing helps build up our mentality so now. Let's switch gears to the mental for those that are just tuning in. This is the first segment of the run. The jewels cast of were a series of this month of february for black history with talking all things health and wellness remote personal physical mental and also spiritual a wellness. This is mr brandon nashik. Who's personal trainer. Certified personal trainer. I would add a. He's a speaker author and also entrepreneur. He's talking about all things we need to look for including myself a win. We are wanting to get personal personally fit especially now now. That summertime is coming up We know everyone's trying to have those bodies those summer bodies and intact. You drop jews for this evening. Y'all sewn up in those. That may have questions brandon of. Please feel free to type of comments. We're going to have a q. And a. shortly In a second. So if you have any questions for mr brandon Feel free to type them in the comments. Any questions about your personal fitness personal. Hell anything that you would always Wants to ask a trainer or that you would wanna ask a trainer feel free to type of men and so us speaking about the mental health of be. Because i know you are someone. That's a firm believer in avid believer in meditation and also breathing techniques Tell those who may be watching. Why breathing techniques and meditation is so important. Just tell you about my experience. So why earthly start without meditation. Now i used to be one of those people who who thought meditation was just the own and all the you know the old kind of all would it. Not i mean meditating could be different for different people for me Meditation with sitting closing my eyes images breathing and then that of course most of the time After my devotional So i kind of reflect on that I started meditation. Because at one point i was working as an art teacher for the boys and girls club and i realize this is a lot of responsibility You know i had like two like four. Classes will to classes starting out in. I ended with four classes when dealing with kids. You know there's so much going on in your thinking so much about a plan as a teacher or program director you know. I'm doing graphic signing you. Know here close mcgrath designer for clients that you know one on one training class. You know. I have so much going on a very bad over thinker. I can literally see like look at the ceiling tonight. Because i think so much. So i out to meditation to patrol my mind. So i do is i wake up in the morning devotional and then i sit. Close my eyes ages. You know about first minute meditation. And then i just sit there and quiet and just grief for anywhere from five two minutes and after i you know come away. I feel energetic as clear. I mean you know. I'm just waiting for the day. We realize how much activity we're going through throughout the day with costly on our phones or causing moving 'cause looking at a computer you know we need to give our mind some quiet time not just when sleeping but throughout some at some point in the day we need fled. Not going home watch tv. I'm talking about complete silence and that's just going to help be able to think clearly clearly throughout the day I mean there are spiritual benefits to meditation if you do for that as well but i can definitely say that. It's really helped me. Think a lot clear also what my boys i mentor at my old. Elementary school rhino. That i you know. Ironically got kicked out of in second grade. But we're not talking about that. Because i'm a new man. We're going bring you back to talk about that. Pass that passes variously. Teach my Atop my asks for the five worse. Boys brian entry. Because you know. I didn't even make it. I didn't even. I make it to the third grade. You know that kicked out. So i want them to make it right and a lot of these boys have a lot of issues going on her life. Some trauma There are a lot of things on a household that's toxic and even appoints times threatening to their to their life in you know they're cutting up in school because of what's going on life so a lot of time every we start our meetings always start with. Exercise would move around. We just get the extra energy that they have out of in. Then you sit in the circle. Bree say i'm obviously they try to giggle and oakland. But they've really got a lot better at it over time and you know. Their teachers instructor told me them pool necessities seen in their class. Inner classes and i feel like the meditation is definitely been a big part of that helping them. Even you know with the care to building gone through. But i'm sure you know that's help their self control. I know me your person who wrote angle problems at me a lot. You know absolutely and so you heard it from from king brandon's mouth for those begnaud me. That are watching. You know all about building up the young king's especially black kings True kings build other kings. As you've heard brandon say gone back to his roots of where he grew up at where he had some of his own quarrels is own struggles. And he's giving back a you. He's actually been a worker in a youth advocate for the organization. I work for boys and girls clubs in metro atlanta here. So he's all about being active in the community not talking about what changes can be done but actually being the chains that he wants to see in his own community. So that's what king builders do. We don't talk. We don't go in look for other people to make stuff happen where grabbing up the young king's young queens even and making sure we are mentoring and deciphering them. The right way. So shout outs brandon and all those who may be watching who are mentoring someone or were guiding some of our youth today absolutely and before before we get ready to close out. Because i'm still seeing if anyone wants to ask me questions do you Be before we hop off the call shortly. So you have any questions for mr brandon whether it's on meditation whether it's on on personal Not personal but personal and also Physical fitness He's a personal trainer. Certified if you have any questions that you always wanted to ask a trainer such as himself bill free the type of comments But as we as we get ready to close out if there's no further questions on the what are what are or what is your final. Ju that she would give those. Who are watching. Because the jewel is is that final bit of wisdom that that final bit of guidance that you would give those who are watching. This is the run. The jewels bid cast. You are a king. You'd give out rules All all throughout the day and especially tonight. What would be idle jewel. That you had those who are watching my will be this. You know we're talking about you know physicality health you know when the ons meeting year in the world. I want everybody to take within this realize that we have three main areas of help that we need to focus on and one can't fully function without the other spiritual health. Most important are mental health in our physical health spiritual health data secure. Paul i mean that's that's live Mental health. If i mind isn't right. Our bodies are gonna follow and in our physical health. We have too many. You know people you know in the in the in the in the church or wherever that you know. We're we're back all about the spiritual but a lot of physical is missing. You know you got a lot of people or about physical but there. They don't see the spiritual they don't even think about. You know the spiritual spiritually dead. You know you have a In a lot of people just don't do enough of their minds as well mental health in our mental soundness. I a testament to somebody really really focused on that. And i'm like the best head space of been my life. Focus on your spiritual mental and physical health would not like. I said my personal team. I wake up in the morning. Start rid of devotional. Meditation than exercise and In an i mean. I'm ready for the day. I've i've learned something. You know spiritual eyes game mental clarity. And i've gotten stronger. I mean what better way to start your days than that absolutely. That's that's the that's the way jaw or who are listening. Needs to to follow some of the jews that that be just dropped on. Y'all starting today off is how you end the day so if you just happen out bed just jumping out of bed and and just getting ready for work like no you gotta you gotta wake up a little bit earlier. Sometimes in started routine because routine is the heart of success. Yes the excellent judah leave within the mind of before we get you to pray pray us out until those who are listening where they can get in touch with you through your social media your your personal Contact for if they want to solicit your services amodu For all of us listening comes from instagram of quote that i i heard that i wanted to share. It's called Or it's not called but it says no one is coming to save the life. This life is one hundred percent your responsibility. No-one is coming to save you. This life is one hundred percent your responsibility. You only get this one life for those who may not know jesus christ our lord and savior. If you died twice you go go live again but die. You don't know our lord is going to be a rough a rough situation for those maybe watching who may not know him. But make sure you're taking care of yourself. This is all about mental physical and spiritual awareness throughout this month of february of black history month. We're going to have on a lot More up presenters and and people that are getting injured nude about mental and also spiritual health. We started this. First part of the series off mr brandon mashah who is a professional speaker. He's the author a personal trainer at his third defied and he's also activists in his own community and so without further ado be. Would you mind closing this out. In prayer was lick their lowest thing. Where the day think allowing us. The wake of this one will see another beautiful day may thank you for allowing rian joins us connection more and be able to share gills with people allow everybody south Grab something from this meeting. Lower that will ultimately altered our life and improve allows us to have a good night's rest wake up next morning really implement will learn here and just continue to grow Qbr cutting out a little bit broke all case all i said event we second that and i know now with on us so the enemy found hate on our prayer. You know how that a as a hobby the end of the enemy. Don't light what we drop jews tonight like this on Advantage of the people got the message so could no super knows that that Were able to make the first series. Thank you all for listening please. Share share share a comment. Even after the bid cast is over brandon. How can they get in touch with you. Man if they want to reach out to you be how can they reach it. How can they reach you if you wanna follow me on instagram. 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Somebody's i g or social media clowns of the out here just taking pictures in the mirror taking or taking picture that the beach trying to fool you ought to make. It seem like they. They doing it. They got clients but they in the hair salon and nail salon recruits and trying to pick up women at the same as now cards in bag and phone numbers so he certified. He's the king. He's all about a building up the community. so that's why. I had him on the run. The jewels of bid cast this evening This is your host. Mr julian smart ripple. Thank you all for tuning in. We're going to be having a lot more on topics each month. Stay tuned follow brandon on his instagram. His facebook good also. Follow me on at at king's k. I. n. g. s. a. Speak spa k. Two thousand twelve on instagram and also here on facebook or a at julian. Smart room ripple. So it's been a pleasure speaking with you all this evening beep. We go lunch catch up soon. Man we gotta get you on the conference circuit. We gotta king conference the presenters and we may even bring you back to talk about mentoring. Mentorship in discipleship. Because i know mentoring a lotta a lotta new crowd there. I'm excited man. I'm all this is to nineteen year year building games. Absolutely no state. Y'all stay tuned is gonna be a great year man. I'll stay fits. They help these. They will make sure you're taking care of yourself. This is julian and also brandon signing off. Y'all be blessed. I'd be what's opera.

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"Raises with steve. Big horse racing handicapping interviews. This is steve. We're back our three about twenty minutes. In and i have laughing. I had to run downstairs because there was a there was a Delivery i got the email notice and i wanted to some some grapefruit from From florida in fact for those of you that that are that had to s a right outside of ocala is the town of sitra. Cit are citra and the orange shop. In a years ago years ago. I drove to I drove to florida kind of an odyssey one of those odyssey trips. Because i was going to be there for like two months. My mother was sick down in the boynton beach. And so i wanted my car. And i you know and i had a close and whatnot so anyway I stop one of the first ops was was in ocala and i draw driving by as approaching ocala. I see this orange shop. The man literally. It's called the orange shop. And so i stopped and It literally is like a you know. Fifty zero Roadside stand about but they have apparently big grove so anyway i've been ordering citrus from them ever since and actually. I told you the story about page oranges. I i know this is. It's so easy for me to get sidetracked but I remember buying a bag of. I never heard of them before. Page oranges there the size of like a ping pong ball They're even smaller than than Clementines and then. I learned all about him. They were they were developed out around world war two and it was. It was a project. I don't know the the. Usda and they They're tough to peel but they're the sweetest things. There isn't another piece of citrus. Another oranges sweet. As as a page orange. And i don't even know how many page groves there are. There are only available. They're only available for like five weeks from mid december to mid january I it's very very odd ball thing anyway. I got him at at at this. Orange shop and So at some point during the winter i ordered. I ordered rape fruits in a mixed and so tina. It wasn't enough. That i cut the grapefruit and half and then and then you know with a with the knife with that with that. Serrated knife You know cut out the sections now before school. I'm supposed to appeal the grapefruits for her. And i. i don't know if you've ever tried to peel a grapefruit tom. Hanks had an easier time with coconuts on that island in castaway. Then then you will have trying to peel a grapefruit. I you get the big thick skin off. Okay that's that's number one then. There's like this protective membrane. It that you have to peel off. It's like i. It's like impossible. Takes like fifteen minutes. But i but now. She's gotten into this thing where she has to have a grapefruit in her. I gotta i gotta send her to school with a with a grapefruit that i've peeled and carefully just so there's another. There's another like eighteen grapefruits that just came. I wanted to get him off. Know off the stoop. 'cause it's called out so there's there's there's there's today's wacky wacky aside. I got up. Sorry i i. I thought i was. I thought i was killing time. But chris was here the whole time and i hope he's laughing a little bit chris griffin good morning segue ever. I mean fruit fruit and puffer. Thank out the life doesn't get much better than that. you know. i'll tell you. And i dunno announcer. Why because i've always thought about like what everybody eats the booth and i've tried to snack on route and stuff like that but it's a bad situation. You're talking about peeling things and whatnot deal like you you you orange especially so i'm dried fruit. Kinda guy in the booth that's smart. That's smart dried fruit. Apricots and raisins and whatnot knots. Maybe not a smaller bag. Look because if you get the big bags you know it's announcers we're we're we're we were polish off the whole thing. It's one defy. The whole bag is going to be about the third go for smaller bag. Well a as long as long as you don't have the problem that that jason beam seems to have which is swallowing large bugs We've all done. I take me around in pleasanton one time during race the fun activity you know it. Brings you back down to earth. You know you're like and we're just enjoying life like that's what it's about you know this be beat a pick. Four with the mutt. Cigarettes will play is going on but he just wants to intrude on the day to funny. Well there we go never know. You never know what we're gonna what's gonna come up here. The first order of business though with your visit is going over saturday night and know we visited last week and you know had looked at a thursday card but then we look ahead to the preview and came off great And they're actually you know. In addition to some of the heavy favorites that came through. There was some interesting results. Got the value of the little later on the card and You know someone song and read it corey. We thought the matchup and as as well sometimes happen. It'll be a horse that you weren't really expecting taking a look at in the post race interview actually talked about mood tab junior and and some of the issues he had the prior rate so You know they fixed that corrected it and he just. He came flying late. And we talked about that over sixty miles defense for some songs and I guess just made him a little vulnerable in that spot. But he gets he gets wired there In the turf event and you get ten to one winner and direct. Dial did what he had to do and You know star in the north. She's like we said she just got plenty of options as far as what she can do and where she can go for her owners and it was just the night you know we. We got some nice weather. We've got great weather on tap this leak and It's nice to see some sun and just Get on the turf and has some good racing but it was a nice day to celebrate texas preview. And it'll set up. Set us up nicely. For tech champions. I got some handicapping standpoint. Maybe you take a look at because we did reschedule one week later but we didn't move the texas champions day date so you know from a handicapping standpoint. Maybe you keep an eye on how horses are coming into that event with last week i guess of of some of that preparation the you know if you take a look at those things maybe some handicapping and i'm sure something we'll talk about As we get closer to march leeann well as For a quick survey of some of the ones we just mentioned it was mugabe junior in that turf at almost eleven to one that for paul duan and owner john pierce The second this was bred by jose louie espinoza This is a seven year old gelding. And it's kind of funny I get a kick out of a boob job. Junior being Being the the son of of mu jab who was a A smarty jones himself and you mentioned beat somewhat song star the north the for cisco bravo and owner. Michael grossman This is a daughter of the honk and Reichel berry Aboard star of the north. Now four for five to five In that spot you had direct. Dial at one to two. For steve asmussen mr farish and of course perish home bred by too much bling The two that we didn't mention. I'm a discreet lady Able to uh to beat miss perfecta and basically you know took control and no matter what kennedy did just could not get eichel burian and virg- discreet cat hair. Yes speeds are good on the of course the last few events in the last few cards that we've covered and She's a classy horse. Girl marriage you got a nice drawing. Yeah right took it right to Miss perfect and you got a touch of value. There you know kinda came down off of that morning line. But i'm discreet lady. Just weren't sure how she was going to come back and she came back very well so I'm sure she'll be seen here on march twentieth as well. And she's got some options for her and she's nice texas bread and The tactics that they employed their kind of goes back to that to back effort loan lonestar that just showed some speed and When when she gets to the front she's tough to catch. This was broberg and Owners ram hotline. Dwayne coker. raymond. Yes read by larry hunziker and this is this is this is one of those situations you know we. We brought this up last week. These state bred stakes horses coming off of Efforts against open company. And she found the you know she was sprinting on on the main track. This is an interesting record that she's assembling to chris. She clearly you know. Here's a second stake wins. He won that Fiesta mile at lonestar back last august and yet the rest of the time broberg got her sprinting on the dirt and she's one stakes on doing that. She won the yellow rose at lonestar. Go and six. But she's versatile and interesting. She's building a nice record for herself. She's over three hundred thousand. She's eight for twenty. Three versatility is nice. When you have a horse it can do A myriad of different things when they can go through turns on her for they can go right back into you know six furlong sprint and go ahead and win a rape like that. It gives you so many options and choose the fun horse. I'm sure to have around. She's nice to look at and She will be seen in this regions again and probably in many different spots. And you'll have to take a look at her. Because she's gonna be either buying for favoritism or one of your top three or four betting choice. One do i to follow definitely stone cafe With a a slight upset went second choice at five to two. This was in the gyms orbit and this donor cider gelding stone. Cider gelding for Bret calhoun and scarborough's This was this was a nice effort and this is actually worse that has not had not won since breaking the maiden at remington for twenty five. Yeah this is. This is the one that just kinda was no not me a little bit because i think handicapped at correct you know. Carve striker had moved from that outside to the inside post and carbon striker. Got it all wrong. This is the start just didn't break Very quickly and couldn't get to the front then within behind horses. It was a really tough Trip for your favourite. So i i. I wouldn't knock him too much of that effort if he gets a little bit of a better post next time. He's wanted to keep an eye on because his pregnant price will probably float back I take an island song or island. Son excuse me And at the head of the stretch. I thought i had a shot in there at a little bit of a price Came up a little short. And then yeah you see the the to calhoun. Br runners come on the outside dust. Them actually crowley ran the biggest race because dustin them hop straight up in the air at the start gave him about three or four length And then was rolling. Late just Mr the stablemate and yeah you they. They worked out the right trip. I think from a trip handicapping standpoint if you wanna take a look at a rate The gym zorba is the race to watch because there a lot of unlucky trips there were some slow start And i think there's gonna be a lot of improvements from some runners and there's other runners that had Maybe perfect trips. They just weren't good enough so Keep an eye on it but it carbon tracker gets a better. I next time out on alan. Well a nice Evening Vaction at Sam houston and i think i also saw that that it was a big handle night to right close to three million plus the three million a nice car twelve races and had a coupla arabian raises to start out the card but We we ended up running pretty late into the evening. I think we were actually Still going some of the west coast tracks. Were all done but it was the it was a nice night and there were there. Were people getting involved and joined the wagering action and it's nice to see. It looked like a card where you saw a lot of possible. Short short-priced favorites and short price did win But again you caught the value. I think when mugabe junior one obviously has knocked out a lot of tickets You get you get a double digit winter. It just creates a bit more of an energy to. I think. I think when you get one of those prices in there then. The betting action is really fully in play and We did have fans on site and they get excited. When things like that happen you can see a lot more celebrating when they connect with a ten to one eleven to one shot and then we close things out with a twenty one winner that i had actually selected here on track so that was. That was a nightmare to finish it out. Of course i didn't pick it on your show or give it a. That's all right about this election to you or anything like that karen karen. Jacks actually had a real nice week last week. She had a few winter than some really impressive efforts and She won the nightcap twenty three to one and whoever played that houston hi fi. They actually took the jackpot down the on saturday Over eighty eighty two thousand might have been eighty four thousand over eighty thousand dollars twenty cent minimum somebody jackpot so that will start all over today. Wow all right. Let's talk about today and give everybody a couple of ideas Five ten eastern time For the first post looks like yeah ten race card eight tomorrow and ten on friday China obviously with some of those loss. We talked about this last week. You know trying to trying to get some of those races made up Here over the course of the next few weeks. Yeah it's a nice break in this week On that we don't have the twelve and twelve like you saw last week But yeah we. We'll have tonight. Cardis is this afternoon's card is is tough. I i think there's some really tough racism that sequence You can put the picnic together. I i don't think you're gonna see a short price savers. Then the sequence at that fifty cent with non-jackpot Could be in line for a nice score or we could look at another carryover type situation just depending on how big the pool get This is this is a really wide open card. Here tonight Tomorrow's car and like you said eight cards maybe a little bit light but you know we'll we'll about back and come back to the weekend as well and All all should be well here for the week of racing and then we get cranked up for texas champions days as well but the other races in the sequence that i like i guess number race number. Nine is an interesting one for me. This is probably one of my stronger opinions on the night At six furlongs is five thousand dollars claiming events in here. And i think that wakefield is gonna take a lot of money seven five in the morning line that looks about right the cutback though from seven furlongs to six along the horse. It shows me that seven. He didn't show a ton of speedo at five and a half I think the ribbon cane can actually outrun him towards the outside the other one. That's interesting is more charlie They're both going to be towards the outside and they have a better post than what's going to be your favorite but ribbon. Cain danny barred. It looked like kinda early on in the meat. They were the say the slow starting. But you know just kind of getting some of these horses back in into that big racing shape that that that we know so well from this bar and And i think second time out they. They've just been firing a lot more on a consistent basis so this was odds on last time. Finish behind menopausal who ended up winning that race. I think tactically. He sits in a nice position. Here the six furlongs concerns me a little bit. But i just think you have a tighter race horse and you're gonna catch value because he was odds on last time and now he's three to one of the morning line so i think Anything that is over that three to one or right around that three to one. I really liked the ribbon cain. They're tonight's night. If i was going to look at some of the other races on the card obviously everybody loves when we get on the john. B connally turf course at five furlongs there that her sprint really nice allowance event in there. I'm gonna go with the two to one shot zero hotel. But i would spread in this race. I think you gotta go a little bit deeper ticket because super brady can run Already that one didn't do anything wrong. Twenty five thousand dollars a two level Even to the inside reverend. Aj's got a big shot in there so race number eight. It's just a real tough of them. There at five. Prolonged sprinting Race number seven is thousand around a little bit but it's six and a half ardley started six. So if frank lucarelli had shown speed of the fifteen thousand hours three loss to south gate in there but the second-place finisher was selected. Man gun or celestica man has been one of the most unique courses during this me because he hasn't won but he's run really solid races at massive massive prices so look for gunners elastic man in the next spot. It could be on champions there because he ran second in the stake but finishing behind that runner finishing behind southgate. I think there's some improvement here. And what i felt like Ardently star could be in a real nice. It's not on the lead stocking trip in the spot six months opie doyle. Frankly pure elliott. i like it. I like the source of the spot. And i think that's the big shot nice Six to one on the six The oil lucarelli seventh race. Fifteen thousand nine. Three lifetime and there is a Turf sprint for three year. Old fillies and i was actually pleased when i noticed when i saw that the calhoun returning the three year old midyear was eight to one. You got any thoughts about The other is the first or from asmussen with elliot. The more than lucky The the doors and brad cox's got one that certainly is eligible. And i even brought up venkaiah with him earlier this morning but if we're looking for a price i thought midyear was an option. The the four. Yeah i i can definitely see it. The blinkers do go on seventy thousand dollars purchase price as you said from that race churchill is the just took some time off toby's heart toby's aren't just random gulfstream last weekend. I think they're going to talk to brian earlier. Yeah and Ran okay the horse right. Okay so maybe coming out of that race behind the horse that ended up in a state you know. Maybe that's definitely something to look at. For connections that know how to connect and if you catch them at eight to one I think out larceny is kind of interesting to you. The three right to the inside They wanted to get the horse on the grass Obviously wanted to do it last time. But the got rained off and put on the main tracks Scott youngest. It's been connecting left and right and and and he's been doing it at prices and you gotta figure out when you can catch his horse. I know it ran in a maiden fifty last time out But i think that the force wants the turf and get on it here this afternoon. So i think that's one that's at outrun then is going to be tough to the outside because of the controlling speed if that were shows thanks we this. Last time i berenson pushing a lot of the right buttons as well on the turf course And putting them out front and finding the right spot with an outside post like this. Don't you think the nine k kinda dictate things pretty clearly The eight concerns me from a where that horse is going to be placed from a speed standpoint. I i. I'm not sure i'm seeing too much early gas from this one but i i could be wrong. Goals even interesting. The it's a nice maiden event It's a nice little rates in there. been chi the deserving favourite. That's gonna be my top choice in the race but there's some value to be had agreed. Of course that starts the late. Pick five as well and the space city Starts in the fact that. I suppose we should at least get pretty much. Went over the whole thing almost How do you start the. How do you start. The space city overweight had to close things out as a really difficult right. So you're good handicapper. You've gotten to that point but you probably have to go a little bit deep iceland In this race it starts real tough too because the ten thousand hours the to Going the seven furlong now the horses go meet at around five and a half furlongs. If i've seen that in the prior form they just seem to have been the winning move for me During the racist here going seven furlongs. It's just happened. I mean i. I've had some winters on top winners selected and they were showing speed at about five and a half and they were able to keep going at seven furlongs so for me. If i take a look at that which horse is gonna fit that profile for me. It's going to be the four tecmo Leandra gonzalvo the of shown speed at remington park in the seventy five hundred dollars. A two level I'd like to stretch out like the move to seven furlongs in here has run the distance and finished second Dare komo's has been pressing all the right buttons all me. leandra gonzalez's when they've teamed up. It's been a very very good partnership. You're going to get six to one and a horse to start out the sequence. I if you get back to that three backup right there on december seventh. I think this i went. I think the horse wins the race So a lotta things too like for me. I think the horses in line for a nice effort. And i'm just following a handicapping trends working for me. This meet is is like. I say if somebody's the showing that speed at five and a half just seems like at seven furlongs. They've been running really really well so horseriding oakland park last time. Ten thousand dollars to Take that effort kind of What you think and come right back but six one. I liked that one. The number four tic tac. No i'll give you crazy The price Last winter that On the outside that. Kyle's bro jimmy. yeah i remember. I picked horse on top last time. Yeah i remember four year. Old gelding twenty. Two one lightly raised broke through the. This is the at. This is a very tough way to start the startup. Pick sex holy cow. Kind of this is a murky bunch. The chris it's a it's a nice start to the week ten race tonight after noon and into the night at sam houston Tomorrow the eight race card thursday starts at five. Oh two eastern time and then friday night under the lights starting at seven forty five eastern sam. Houston race park. chris. I appreciate it. We'll catch up next week. Always great thanks so much. Enjoy your fruit. That's why it's more for the wife. But i i just i just get to operate on it in the morning. You have no idea what goes on here. The keeping keeping the tina happy i. It's thanks a lot. It's a fulltime job. We're going to stay right here. We've got About fifteen minutes a little. I think South of south. If you're listening. I don't think we're gonna get to you today. We will get you in here. Thursday for for some thursday conversation. Seth mero for those of you. That are waiting for your tampa. Push seth we'll have it at that. Capital t. v. dot com. Because standing by is eric hallstrom. We've been promising all week and Or at least All morning yesterday. The indiana commission passing The seasons program and and some of the changes and we are amazingly not far away from the start of the season at indiana grand. After last year's tremendous season. Eric hallstrom good morning. Good morning steve. Good talking to you again. I wanted to get you in here. While people saw the headlines and racing's gonna return april thirteenth. Which is four weeks. Essentially and change and goes to november We'll certainly looking forward to it but you once again in getting ready for the year you're going out of your way to appreciate the horse players talk about What you floated. And what The racing commission approved for you guys when it came to the wagering offers. We're very happy with. We've got a really good relationship with our not only our horsemen but are racing commission here and they did approve all of our requests. There's some of this was quite frankly probably long overdue that the first one being the scenario where a race comes off the turf after the pools closed in one of our pick wagers and last year we took a little bit of abuse for the substituting post time favorite and i understood the problem with is the wheels of changing rules in that process are very slow and I could go through a at one. Bore you with it. But it took us about march we figure by twenty twenty one meet. We'd be ready but we did get that approved so from here on out when you Make your bet assuming gonna be on the turf and then we get those flash storms that you seem to get here in indiana. You're protected you'll have an all in that race so Happy about that one. We also went back to Trying to be a little more An option for our pick players in terms of takeout reduction know last year. We had a huge success where pick five. It was far more than we anticipated at eleven point nine percent. That's back We have to get agreement from our horseman on all of this and they were excited to do that as well. In addition to that we we have lowered the takeout on our pick. Four and our straight fire. Pick six to fifteen percent this year. So any of the four through sixty getting quite a discount from what would normally be the takeout in indiana well and you know the the happens that that that adjustment on the basically giving the all on the off the turf in this is a point of contention that you know players have had for ages and one thing that we've all kind of been waiting and watching and hoping for in that regard. Eric is the ability on on tickets on. I'm building tickets that to put in an option And essentially have alternates In in the you know the various stages so that you know the the market places that have been giving us new york does this you know you you get the post time favorite and in a lot of cases i mean. It's infuriating to people because either they've already had the postal favourite covered or they're you know. They built their ticket with a thought of beating the post time favorite. So if you're you're basically have a decision forced on you and and so from that standpoint. You know what you guys did here. is is an attempt to more than placate. It's an attempt to basically keep people from being given a horse that they had no interest in having i it's just fair. You know i ve weekend horse. I wish i could play seven days a week to too busy the other day. I don't get the chance. But i've been in the same spot where you know. You got to one of your pick wages. Go on and you know that there's some weather common than you're keeping an eye on the sky and then bad luck sets in and there you go you're off the turf and the end up with some some horse. Just absolutely do not want. And that's not in a perfect world. We'd have the tow technology to to make everybody. What allow everybody to get the horse and make changes like that. I just don't see it common for any. You know any time here where that's widespread throughout the country so this is as best as we can do on that and i can tell you from an operator standpoint. You know not playing the races. There's nothing worse than a midday storm. I it's you're keeping one eye in the sky. And hoping and i was just with our track superintendent roy smith and told them about this change and you know he wiped his brow and like wow i feel bad because the thought of putting your customers in a spot they don't wanna be without any choice is not not a good way to go about your business but there really was no option before now. Now we're at least people are have some protection built in When weather comes through and it seems like in indiana it comes out of nowhere. I'm sure it feels like that everywhere but my first summer here last year i saw some storms pop up that literally came out of nowhere so anyway we do feel good about that and appreciate the racing commission here being understanding it I think it was. It was met with general approval. Right i mean. I know there's always going to be you know a person to that. You can't satisfy every single player that Their approach but You know between the you know the lowering of of the multi Numbers i i will ask. I did see where somebody said. Can you work on the whips. What what's your thoughts eric. On trying to whittle down Further on on the wind play show takeout. Yeah it's probably the next discussion that we have here. And i know that one is none indiana where at eighteen and i. It's my eyes that's on the higher side of of win place show takeout. We're building We're we're constructing a big building here and were just in the beginning stages of giving everything perfect and You know that that'll be the next project we talk about is whether not just whips. But some of the other exotic are fairly priced. I do a big believer in takeout being You know driver for customers. And i think that that's something that down the road. We'll talk about it again and see if it really is material to us here and you know there's two sides of it because every time you do that Your business here. We we have to figure out what that means for us as well so there's a balance but it probably takes a little bit of study that quite frankly we haven't gotten into yet on the web so overall based on last year and adding to some of the you know the changes that that put you guys right in the you know in the focus of players feels like that momentum will carry through to to this year Where do you stand. I you where he addressed a little bit you know. Some of the decisions were In terms of scheduling was with the attendance Potential attendants In mind and and you know. The percentage of You know the of the building that can be utilized for attendance. Where do you stand. So far looking at your. You're probably going to be where we left off last year. Which is extreme disappointment to. And i will say you know we had our what i think what you're referring to as we change one of our race days we're not going to run on may first as we originally planned and you know back in august of last year when we start thinking about brace dates for the next year You know i had this grand plan of. Let's us kentucky. Derby day for live racing will ball the community. It'll be kind of a welcome back to racing on track and it's going to be great. Well you're we are in february staring at Positive positivity rates that are kind of off the charts and it was immediately understood at that point that you know we weren't going to be able to be at full capacity by may first and if we were it would take a miracle and you can't bet on narco so We decided to move that racing day to the end of the year in kentucky derby will still be great. We'll still have a a crowd that will be at a lot of fun here on track but the thought of capacity of safe fourteen fifteen hundred people and having three thousand people lined up down the sidewalk waiting to get in just does not something. We wanted to get into so We'll we'll figure it out. Now i'll i will say this the much like the rest of the country. The trends here are positive. Very good i should say in terms of you know people get vaccinated and feeling comfortable about some things. Were were fact. We're waiting for an announcement from the state of indiana today for Assuming that we're positivity rates ended up being where they have been the last couple of weeks it will allow us more capacity not only are building here but in our jason casino which is very important. You know it's the biggest driver of persons that we have so We got some good things coming up here and and being a five weeks away from racing. There's one and we can't wait. We've got some really positive feelings about how the meat's gonna go well looking forward to kicking it off when the time comes and We'll we'll go over the the new stakes names When we get that that was a fun Winter activity and i can tell already People getting excited about the indiana for this year. And you and the team doing everything you can to welcome the players back particularly and Eric i i appreciate it and we'll talk And just a few weeks ahead of the meat. That sounds great looking forward to your partners against the eric. A from everybody follow eric And and the whole team Which includes Nancy and of course bill downs and rachel and they they really became. I think for a lot of people just part of part of the the daily racing activity and just once you get into you know once you get into a venue and Start to play it You know you just begin to look forward when doing what they've been doing making all these nice moves to appreciate. You know the players of the show. A lot of respect for players with with these efforts with well done This was a was a blurred today. brad cox and ryan lynch early and then of course said we had a fun morning on the breeding stallion conversations between said and then laura visagie and eric robinson from rock rich. A top option for year. New york chris griffin. Watch out for those those bugs. The in the crow's nest Erik ostrom tomorrow. I be looking forward to all these terrific cards that are going to be drawn today. Santa anita and tampa and akwa docked. Good luck if you're playing today. I didn't get a chance to go over some of the form to win Results but there were there were couple hits yesterday. Papua add one at turf paradise. I had One at At parks it's crazy. We'll we'll do another one With pablo tomorrow or friday. Definitely for definitely for friday going into the weekend. Replay sixty nine here on sirius. Xm of course hr coverage here wednesday so hr rn coverage starts afternoon. 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The Grill Girl is Hunting Iguana (To Eat) and Steven Raichlen Sets Sail!

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The Grill Girl is Hunting Iguana (To Eat) and Steven Raichlen Sets Sail!

"The speed of the barbecue central we'll do it. Live breath doing live. I can all right. It and we'll do it live so they get that perfect barbecue. You say whatever we put the letter long. Strike your match. What should we call the fire department. That might be a good idea <music>. I'm and welcome to the really big barbecue central show. It's a show where we talk about barbecue and grilling. We originate from the rock and roll hall of fame city of cleveland the ohio the barbecue capital of the north coast. I am your program breath. We happen to have you. I want to jump in on the show. There are two big of contact information that you will want to keep the ready. You feel shopping. Here's how you do that by calling two one six two two zero zero nine six six email greg the jews central show on the twitter instagram said b._b._q. Central show everything else you wanna find out about the show can be found at the main website the b._b._q. A q. central show dot com and here's what's happening coming up in about twelve minutes from now third tuesday of the month brings a pair of recurring guests in the first hour for stop the creator of barbecue bible. The host of project fire tv show multiple time author multiple multiple time author hands down probably is that contradictory right off the bat probably one of the most recognizable names in the live fire industry and i would say there's other folks that you can lump in the line of fire industry if you want but as you start to break down the nuts and bolts of are they true or not. This guy could not be questioned if he is true or not. He is totally true to the game mm-hmm. He is the essence of life fire. He has traveled the world's barbecue trail and told us all about it in his journeys barbecue hall of famer. Steven reich oakland will be joining us at about twelve minutes from now. We have to talk about something that i don't think i really have any any interest in doing which is getting on a cruise ship. I probably would be more apt to travel abroad like on a jet aeroplane into a distant land not the united states than i would going on a cruise ship here. Domestically that should tell you how much i i don't want to go on a cruise. Although i've heard people have great times on cruises that is very confining you have little to no option russian on getting off once you have set sail and i wanna keep my options open. I don't wanna have to call in a helicopter. Don't roll like that deep pocket. Get wise. I don't wanna take dinghy and make my way across the ocean than the middle of the night. If i had enough of the cruise ship so i don't like like to be confined per se but steven reich lynn has joined forces or made some type of joint venture with a smaller cruise line and we'll talk to him about that added also labor day coming up here and week and a half or so so we'll see what's going on on the reichel and labor day menu bunch of other things as well then we will move moved to thirty five past the hour we will find the other recurring guests on the third tuesday of the month you're on this barbecues on show robin lindores grill girl and if you are keeping being up with her on social media channels she's got a couple of different ones now obviously at grill robin on instagram but i believe she's also barn to wildlife live for bungalow to alligators teeth or something along these lines basically it's a standalone instagram the tracking her and her husband in her son's progress as they commercialise or make livable there twenty acres out in <music> port charlotte or portavogie arte or one of those ports and florida port st lucie. Maybe some something of a port they they have twenty acres of wilderness that they are trying to convert and they have a rental place at the moment as they are in the midst of conversion asian or getting under the midst of under the midst in the midst of conversion and there has been no lack of wild game name and alligators and other such lizards that are popping up all over the place so we'll talk to robin about any new recipe she might were. You're working on dare. I say guava. That's right not kidding. We'll talk about it coming up in about thirty minutes from now and then we will move to the second hour and fourteen pass a second hour also thirty five past the second hour for lucky. She is a finalist on the first season of barbecue brawl all flavors assignment. It is not leeann weapon nay. It is suzy bullocks from hey girl. Hey and we will talk with her about the show extensively however not solely the show mostly the show but not solely the show. She also happens to be a huge fan of hot dogs so i know my friend doug shining will be tuning out once we get to that talk because if we know two things are are certain in life death and taxes we know another two things are certain had life that doug hates hotdogs and doug hates kids not not necessarily in that order andrew are not not necessarily so. We'll talk to suzy about the t._v. Show about hotdogs about what might be a weeks long campaign of hot dogs on her website and social media channels. Hey grill hey okay so looking forward to catching up with suzy your phone calls and emails as we make some into one six two two zero zero nine six greg at the b._b._q. Central central show dot com. If you want to hit me up during the shell follow me socially at b._b._q. Central show on instagram and twitter ter- slash b._b._q. Central show on facebook and speaking of social media. You know my friend that that comes on the show the first tuesday the month not malcolm read but sand the cooking guy just recently crossed over the million subscriber mark on youtube and i would like to say that the barbecue central show has played <hes>. Let's say a huge role in <hes> helping sam accomplish that goal but he's not the only one hitting milestones might white high. Take one second recognize this show barbecue central show exclusive news of that's right greg grumpy. Reporting live live here at the breaking news desk in cleveland ohio bringing you chop but news stories as it relates to the show and maybe an hour. Maybe maybe an hour ago we did this. We crossed over into the five thousand follower mark. It's right here probably can't see that too. Well now that i'm looking at it as your zipper baby you can see we've crossed over into the five thousands. Followers are on instagram. Why look at me a media maven in the making very excited that we were finally finally able to push over five thousand. I had no idea that it would happen this evening. But i was talking to my social media expert s h four you know ms barbecue hunk and i'm sorry s h three h four as little one and he's like oh you will be over five thousand here in a short period of time between who sharing post and who's following who although he's like you'll cross over five thousand easily before show and i said well. I am not going to let this is opportunity. Go by where i can flaunt the successes of social media as it relates barbecue central show and while i might be be a little older than some of you i will say this that there are few that rival the interaction in an engagement that i can bring to you if you follow me. That's my value proposition to you. I will be engaging. We will engage together together. It's not just sharing a bunch of photos having a bunch of followers and nobody giving crap we interact central lights are you're part of the fabric of the show and the success of the show and as you can see we have a very staunch following of java uh stover five thousand dollars so we're halfway to ten thousand five more years later. We'll be there. We'll get there. I might be fifty by the time we get but we will get there. There's no doubt about it. Also i don't know if she's watching this evening but finishing her second day in in the hill or up on the hill in greensburg north carol- north carolina greensburg pennsylvania we give a hardy thirty hello and hopefully welcome into the live streaming of my daughter bobbi ramsey at seton hill university dropping her off this past sunday and and while it was kind of an all day affair at the end it was a very emotional and <hes> for those that have had to have left their child at school when you've never done it before that's that's weird so her and the rest of the intones are gearing up for fall volleyball aw we wish them a repeat of the peace ac title claim there is a returning turning conference player of the year on the seton hill griffin volleyball team too but i'm going to no disrespect to that player ear but i'm going to hope that somehow my daughter just stuns an amazes the crowds and coaches and then tears it up overplay and she becomes the new player player of the year conference play that maybe we can get her on every so often to give <hes> team updates as it happens the season. 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Ram this portion of the show being brought to you by butcher barbecue makers of award winning injections actions marinades rubs seasonings barbecue sauces grilling oils which barbecue products tested on the competition circuit as well as backyards of worldwide. Be the master of your neighborhood and visit butcher b._b._q. Dot com to stock up now. Always trust your butcher right course all right joining me. Now is the first third tuesday of the month recurring guest. He is a tv icon. He is a live fire barbecue and grilling icon. He is a barbecue hall of famer cooking class instructor author of the most popular barbecue and grilling books in the history of the barbecue world and apparently not online at the bottom of i have i have the right steven reich lynn account up. Sometimes there's like burner accounts and other times. There's not burner accounts in your favorites writs. Yes this one s. Just try this one again. See what happens. Why is the sound coming through the air very bizarre saying stephen is not online and now we have to send the dreaded email we are on. I hate sending the email the reminder email as the show is happening being for any number of reasons first of which is you know. I hate to hate to have to send it because my egos it was very fragile and the fact that somebody may just may have slipped. Somebody's mind at nine fifteen on a tuesday when you could roughly have seventeen thousand the better things to do that. I have to remind you to come and do the show but then in the subject line of noise like were on and i don't put anything in the in the in the body. It's just like subject line. You know what are anyway. We raced through the line and welcome back friend of the show stephen reichel and hasty doing. I'm doing absolutely fabulous hour. You better not couldn't be better. You're looking very hands. We have avenue background tonight. <hes> this is the same background i've had for ten years. He's talking about my fine wood paneling that i had installed old. What do you like that or what yeah thank you so <hes> we are talking with steven wright barbecue bible dot com of course and i'm always interested stephen even seeing who is watching barbecue t._v. All the more interested with you since you produce obviously and star in a tv show. Let's call it a project fire for instance. Are you outside of that. Are you taking in any of this barbecue brawl series on the food network by uh-huh. I'm embarrassed to say i make t._v. But i don't watch it. I do not have barely even know how to work. My tv really really yeah. We're net flicks folks. We just we watch movies but <hes> i do. I i kinda work so much so hard and barbecue ten ten hours a day no end of the day. I'm going to do something completely different and so you have your one of the cord cutters you don't pay for a traditional tv service if you will like <hes> you verse or spectrum remember the last time we watch t._v. Next sex so what do you watch on netflix. What's your what do you like to do when it's not lie fire well. Let's see we we watch the west wing once a year ritually from start to finish from start to finish. It's a little bit like the tower you know you kind of a new jewish religion you start the torah that rosh hashanah and you go through it we feel that way about all seven seasons of <hes> west wing blount <hes> but also watching designated survivor that was pretty good for season <hes> last night we watched a sort of interesting movie called a fortunate man about a danish engineer a little bit obscure actually but any right have you heard of the show the killing really now ever del cais so i think you know we love chefs tabo. We love sweet sour. Solve the the hot but i'd say most of our watching is not to get it so we're talking with steven reich. Let's so about a week ago. I i saw your name mentioned in conjunction with a cruise line now typically if i'm thinking steven reich limits maybe in a resort cooking or doing a class asa obviously on the t._v. Show not necessarily a cruise but this isn't just a cruise per se appears to be something at a whole different level also tell us exactly what's happening between you and a company called windstar cruises yeah so when star a small luxury cruise line they have six ships and about a year ago. I was approached <hes>. Would you like were expanding our ships. We wanna put a barbecue modern international uh-huh barbecue restaurant on each ship. Would you be interested so i've never done anything like that before but it seemed like an interesting opportunity and lo and behold old <hes> last wednesday and i was lost i was in las vegas to announce official announcement for the launch of the program. Our first restaurant will launch <hes> in in february two palermo sisley and i will be doing six restaurants pretty excited about it so what's your investment here <hes> not money wise but like time wise and <hes> concept and what are you bringing to the table that <hes> <hes> they were interested in having you help them with this endeavour. Well you know windstar cruises all over the world and my beat is sort of plan to barbecue in fact. That's even the title of book that i wrote. I remember so what i wanna. Do is <hes> we will have a core menu. They're sort of classics of barbecue. There'll be a brisk brisk. There'll be applauded for the kansas city rib <hes> but then i wanna pay homage to and make reference to all the travels of winstar so we'll do indonesian satay satay as we'll do. Peruvian spit roasted chicken <hes> we'll do you know. Argentinian skirt steaks jimmy jury in the kitchen. We've got a smoker with. We've got a grill and we've got a rotisserie so i will be using all of those. <hes> unlike a water nut some people <hes> some people like the mountains man. I gotta be by the water so i live in miami part of the year on martha's vineyard part of the year and now i guess part of the european these cruise ships one of the <hes> pieces of my commitments not just conceptualizing the restaurant designed menu <hes> but what at least once a year i'll be giving a <hes> doing <music> a class on the ship so <hes> so way to sort of increase the portfolio travel and you know. I guess it's funny. We're watching a movie last night about mike. Wallace interviewed barbra streisand of all them. Yes barbra streisand. What are you afraid of and i expected barbara streisand to say nothing. I'm absolutely she said. I'm afraid of everything but you know what i conquer my fear. That's what let me star in a movie. That's let me direct a movie and i guess i feel feel a little bit like that. I <hes> certainly have the book and tv thing done now and i welcome a new challenge so i can and see from a menu conception standpoint that that's probably not very hard for human you have all the books behind you all the recipes behind you all that breath of knowledge but when it comes to putting a restaurant on a cruise ship together like where's your strength. They're exactly well. You know it's a work in progress progress. I mean we just announced it last wednesday but <hes> there will be challenges on a boat <hes> challenges with <hes> provisioning challenges with the with cooking serving <hes> but i intend to make the food you know like i guess it's one thing to write a book or do t._v. Show when people can sort of read the ideas but not actually tasted food and hear people be able to taste the food and <hes>. I'm very excited about that aren't so will you will be going onto the ships to do kind kind of like a a a a water version of a barbecue university to a certain degree yeah. It'll be a one off demonstration not a whole course who knows where it could go and you know one thing. I'm looking forward to there's also there's a culinary demonstration you know and then there's a what they call a cultural demonstration racial or cultural programmes suck. I imagine you know i do this. Talk on the history barbecue they've done like smithsonian and the library of congress and the i look forward to doing that and i'm also envisioning men. Were indonesia like how cool it beat elite group to do. A you know a street tour you know street food tour in indonesia mean. That'd be really cool so wind stars like headquarters not necessarily here in the states. It's a it's a broad so you would all be starting out in foreign countries and then going coming from their windstar in fact is headquartered in seattle. I think the flags i forget where the ships registered but yeah absolutely i will took the crews will not leave the united states. I don't know whether it'll be a nesia japan the caribbean but that's where people come from all right steven reich joining us here on the show uh-huh barbecue bible dot com. Let's transition out just for a second here and talk about the next big holiday. That's coming up because we always love to talk holidays with you. That's labor verde obviously now some would say that steven this is the signification of the unofficial end of summer which means after labor day you can neatly repack away all of your grills and smokers and so forth of course we are not of that mindset here on this show. We love to do it all year round so <hes> do you have a or are you a big fan of the labor day cookout as it were or is it just another random day for you to fire up the grill and see what's what now often but but actually this labor day. I have a very interesting project going on for that so <hes>. I do a lot of work in quebec a have t._v. Shows infringing quebec so i'm i'm gonna be running a series of barbecue seminars in a town. That's called set c._p._i. Seven rivers which is on the northern shore of the mouth of the saint lawrence river so <hes> i will be bringing my american style. Steven reich glenn you know barbecue classes to set of yeah excited about that. You know the cool thing for me. I think it's probably also true for you. Every day is different and every project is different and every day brings new challenges. Are you the david hasselhoff of of french canada to a certain degree when it comes alive far. I don't know david david has is embarrassing. Say what are you talking to david the guy from baywatch david hasselhoff the hof knight rider well like i said i don't watch t._v. So i'm sorry that's a culture and i'm. I'm not gonna feel bad for not having had caviar v._r. Before anything i'm david hassle commodity guy so annoying. I figured you'd just hear about him being annoying almost sorry i haven't but i will look afterwards by the way you and i have to get together all right. We'll do that no doubt about it. Okay so august to me rings of one thing specially out here so i'm east to cleveland but you go another twenty five or thirty minutes past me now. Everything starts to flatten out. You have all the nursery. Sri growers farmers out there. You know where i'm going right. It's a silver and queen king corn time here and the east part of cleveland so you a big the corn fan love corn guerrilla at least two three times a week a great debate i grill at naked not made the corn meaning i script the husks back <hes> brush it with butter salt and pepper or am i slathered with mayonnaise and dusted with goatee had chilies towed cotija he had cheese and the style of mexico or brush it with a sesame soy butter in the style of japan but love corn so that's the big thing that i've seen over the last twelve months and obviously it's been around for quite some time but it seemed to have been brought to the forefront over the last <hes>. Let's say twelve sixty much was that <hes> ila tae that everybody buddy seems to love which is kind of what you mentioned you do other stuff with alot tae at all well. I grill corn in many many different ways for example. I mean one of my favorites these days is you just mix equal parts of butter and soy sauce and brush that on your corn while you're grilling at mendota corn sesame seeds that's absolutely fantastic testing or extra virgin olive oil and freshly grated parmesan cheese. That's amazing were held just butter salt and pepper. I mean but you gotta get the colonel's journals really charred you know i see we're both wearing black shirts and that's almost your color over okay so like do you have a a timeframe and a heat reference. If you're going to do it like i do mine typically on the gas grill so do i want to be running in like a medium high heat or remedium heat or something along these lines does this thing is a meat eater super high heat. You really want those colonels. Actually power like popcorn okay. The time wise is like fifteen minutes or less two to three minutes per side times for four sides so that's eight to twelve minutes all right. It's not hot. It is where you get. The criminal ization corners a lot of sugar in it. That's where you get the flavor so if you haven't tried grill cornea we need. That's like the next thing that you have to try soon. It's you have to try that more than i have to try caviar because it's very easy to do right you do have to grow corn but strip the husk off lot of misguided folks leave the hustle and they said the corn you don't want any of that a a caramelized those plant sugars were char- you're by the way favorite way to cook caveman style and that is an exception to the rule of husking because then i take a whole ear a corn in the husk lay it right on the embers of the charcoal fire no great and you burn the husk off and burning the husk off that smoke penetrates the corn kernels emitted. You can see your corn kernels. Kinda dappled leopardskin with char marks. You brush off the the chart hoskin just the heavens open and the angels sing hosanna and you're not in danger of the of the whole thing like going up in flames. I mean obviously you're attending the fire but you're not sure danger. That's a thrill less the excitement that's the expertise no danger all right steven reich joining us here on the show for a few more minutes <hes> steven what you know about jack fruit. I mean i've i've been so i hear it every so often. The last time i heard about it was a jack fruit brisk. We've talked on this show a couple of different times about this <hes> ever budding popularity and i don't think it's fat anymore. We talk about the plant based proteins like the impossible burger and the beyond burger. They're making more and more news. It seems every week but then i hear about this jack fruit. I have no idea what it is. I think somebody made some kind of a of a jack fruit brisket out of it and said it was just tremendously. Are you familiar with jack fruit at all well i am and actually i found discover coverage through twenty years ago. Reading george amato novels and george ahah motto is like the <hes> like the hamming way of of brazil a wonderful careful humanistic writer and if you want one novel to read of his it's really fantastic. It's called <hes> <hes> gabriella cloves and cinnamon but jack injected is one of the largest fruits in the world is not uncommon to find jack fruits that way thirty pounds and <hes> they have sort of pebble dinosaur. We're like skin and inside. It's an orange flesh. That's kind of chewy little sweet musky and it was a fruit of the poor and george giorgia motta was a great a champion of the poor and he kind of he wrote novels not about poverty but just you know the the poor could be heroes and interesting people to and often they jacked route because it grew wild and that was very cheap now a lot of people <hes> vegans egan's who wanna do vegan barbecue using jack fruit because it's got. It's got chewy meet like consistency. I'd never heard of a jack brisket but i've certainly heard of jack <unk> pork in fact <music>. I'm gonna put that in <hes> in the next book which is a book about grilling vegetables. <hes> it's gonna muskie <hes> and it's it's sort sort of you know how exotic fruits like give them enough time. They become mainstream. You find him at your local supermarket content that hat trick. Are you at a specialty produce store to find that at at this point in time that well i'm from miami and all of miami's a specialty produce. I mean miami's barely in the united states and by the way tip of the hat to you <hes> greg you are so well informed you are so well prepared for these interviews you always pushing the boundaries and and you know that you're talking about jack fruit on a barbecue show. God bless man. You're the real deal all right well. I'll i'll take that and run with it. Especially coming from you stephen. That certainly means a lot. You can find steven steven reich. Lynn barbecue bible dot com is the t._v. Show we're still running with that still on it. <hes> so that is a project fire as well and <hes> the book obviously is out to you know where to find them all that good stuff is on amazon dot com or through his website barbecue bible dot com but most importantly the third tuesday of the month if i right here getting grilled by me and pun intended of course even always appreciate the time. Thanks a lot about areas steven reich. I don't know if you heard that or not but he was giving your boy props and i got five thousand facebook hell is it called instagram mm followers. That's right talking. Jack fruit on this show that my friends is ground break. There was no by the way a a backyard barbecue show on the chat saying we needed to talk about boil totta. We've already crossed that path and we are not drew you are not. We're not doing that again. I mean while it really ended up being one of the pinnacle nicole moments of twenty twenty eighteen john the tenth circle of hell which initially i thought he said tense like t. e. n. s. eh tense circle of hell funny stuff but it ended up being the tenth circle of hell as i googled. What's a tense circle of them. The joke ended up being on me but yeah jack fruit. Baby steven's been eating it for twenty years talking about that you kidding. I don't even know jack fruits but around for twenty years great background jack fruit by stephen barbecue bible dot com robin lindores coming up in just a few minutes. <hes> let me talk quickly about green mountain grills came stephen. Even i believe is cooking on green mountain grills from time to time i think i saw a post or picture with him cooking on the crimeline that's right. That's the newer version or the newell models so you have to lunch prime line the classic line. Let's call it both have the same models jim buoy. Is your biggest one. Daniel boone is the middle sized. Davy crockett doesn't fall in the classic or prime line. That's all on its own that is kind of the inventor of the twelve volt technology. That's the one that guinea pig started at all found success and now prime line cookers all have twelve volt technology super control lebed's fan which makes your pelican even more helmet efficient. It's really great. I think college football starting this weekend so you know that that means tailgating so davy crockett is going to fit the bill on that get a decent amount of capacity alter portability. If you don't have access to a traditional power outlet don't worry about it you you could plug right into the twelve volt dafter in your car and you are using pellet woodfired goodness to cook your food bukit like two pork butts in that thing to u._c. Can feed them fit. People crying left bigger ones daniel boone jim buoy of course they go on the back yard or onto a trailer. What the hell do i care you just need a power source course and while you're at green grill dot com you can check out the pellets check out their sauces. There rubs accessories you buy those grills through dealers so make sure that you check out where their dealer network is by from there. They'll teach everything you need to know and you are armed with information to be successful right out of the gate. 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Do you wanna purchase there at the check back with chris because he said he had pulled down the app or maybe it was available l. but they were going to retool the app. It re push it out so up to check back and see if that has been done or non also the third tuesday of the month you will find my next guest right here talking about live fire cooking. She is author. She holds cooking classes and a wildly successful ron youtube. Cooking classes structured videos. It is of course robin lindores of grill grill dot com here up. Hey greg happy to be tuesday to you and thank you for coming back this month. As you have been every other month here this year which is great love having you on and we have fun being. I don't wanna brag at all robin but i mean you know one of us. Just crossed the five thousand instagram follower mark excited so we're halfway pathway to ten so it seems to be building a little bit more on its own now and of course it doesn't hurt to have steven reich lynn and robin and the suzanne dan this particular show and you know you guys all have huge following so if you even mentioned it. I just gained followers so it's been a pretty good day from a net gain gain perspective so we're split. I can't even believe i did to follow <hes> steven reich led greats like and i can't believe he hasn't heard of david muscle half before his i mean this is what's mind boggling to me about steven. He has no idea who steven reich lynn is. He's been eating jack fruit for twenty years from me. Where's the disparity here. I don't understand. I've never had jack fruit my life but i think i've seen everything. The david hasselhoff has done even his appearances on shark tank or whatever that stupid fish show is where they make all the fish tanks. What are you know what i'm talking. I mean i watched them and come and he has a huge following in germany like they're like obsessed with. That's what i'm saying like. I popular is that stephen is here in the states outside outside like in french candidate. He's a a live fire. God out there so many got his own books than his own t._v. shows that he speaks french in he said seven. He's the steelers to be studied in france. He has like a degree in medieval french french literature so stiff stephen as a renaissance man tale that doesn't watch t._v. or so. Let's talk about free grilling classes on youtube. We talked about it last month. They were just kind of being released. So how are they being received. Even as anything new added to the course if you will they're doing well. You know i've been there on youtube. They're living in the youtube ecosphere spear and <hes>. I've been releasing them all like once a week. I'll put a blog post about it just to help with the traffic for people to know about it <hes> so yeah i mean. I'm just happy to have him out there. It's a great opportunity for people to learn more about lots of recipes. I have my site which i've been running for a long time and i i do have actually a few <hes> videos that just never somehow made it to the editing lawyer that are going to be released probably in the next couple of months at one is when his cast aaron cooking <hes> just kind of digging into cashier and cooking on your grill the other one is about grilling think romaine and then i even have another video it just talking about different grill types like what's what is appellate smoker versus. What is like a kennel guerrilla. What is a kamado or big green egg or stuff like that just still in the introductory train but really exploring lots of different stops so so yeah right malcolm reed was on the show two weeks ago and he was talking about grilling grilling fish and he eats fish but he's more like me like i'm not a big fish guy at all mostly but like white lame fish is more my style and that seemed to be what he was up to. He did red snapper but do you grill fish i do i do you know. Fishes thought i love fish in florida. Uh i used to have a really good seafood guy before i moved and believe it or not. He was the character that they modeled on sam from cheers off like he was sam and he was the bartender in that pob in boston and then each he was like a ski. Bum bartender guy started selling seafood chewed through the <hes>. What do you call the snowbirds down south florida and then he ended up being peter jarvis he is peter jarvis of trier seafood <hes> so i was kind of exploring a little bit more orcas he was like <hes> fish purveyor to the stars and he was like just in his warehouse down the street from me but yet i love to cook fish and i think a lot of people are intimidated emanating. Is there like oh. Is it going to stick to the grades or what do i do. This and it's actually just so easy. 'cause you know fish usually <unk> quickly anyway <hes> and so you know it's light and fresh but if you look at some of the videos or my fishmeal on my on my girl school series you'll see i actually show you three different ways. Go fish and one is <hes> on a cedar plank you know because a lot of people just salmon on a cedar plank but planking is great for all kinds of fish and seafood cpa rate things like shred or scallops. It's you know it's not a fun way to add smoke and then you're also not having to put the fish directly on the grates on tom but also like take a bed of lemons rights slice limits thin and use that as like your barrier to the grill and put your fish over the lemons and impart citrus like i kind of steams them on a bed of citrus which is perfect for fish and then you know you can even do in like parchment kind of oboe hobo style right right like a steamer packet so the downside of that is that you're not gonna get the smokiness from the grill but it also gives you an opportunity to add a lot of different flavors waivers things like wine a lot of butter garlic and just stuff that you can kind of similar in fresh herbs so yeah. There's a lot of fun things you can do with it and even a lot of people think they need like like a special fish grilling pan. You know really just use a piece of foil that you fold up on the side so all compound butters and inner city doesn't run off and you have your little d._i._y. Grill pen you know you don't have to have special equipment to grill fish and some fish you know like <hes> you could just on on this winter skin touching the greats and that works to you know if it's thicker it's thicker skinned type fish. Linda's joining here on the show grow girl dot com at grill girl robin on instagram. I'm going to save that one for last so let's talk about <music> out wild florida adventures because if you're following rob and there was a picture of you with what appeared to be a wild-boar that has met his untimely demise <hes> there's alligators roaming. I mean my parents live in florida so it's not a obviously uncommon defined alligators alligators in florida but i mean they're probably a little too close for comfort and it's weird because <hes> if you like i guess if you feel when i used to watch the <hes> the shark the gator boys t._v. Show and that was on like well you know if you're feeding the sharks they become a lot less threatened by humans and they'll just start coming right up and now you have a really early dangerous situation especially if you have smaller pats or smaller kids and they do not really being we're just coming up in each but so what's happening like how did you get that bore was that just like rooting around in your grass and somebody's sniped it or what yet yeah so good question and and we can tell i have have all kinds of crazy animals my life right now but yeah <hes> so scott and i moved over fort myers and we bought twenty acres and on our property. We have a bunch of wild boar that have just been like like living there and <hes>. I wasn't privy to this information before. I moved until this kind of happen that i didn't realize that they're kind of like pests. Their past like my husband just wants to exterminate them. You know like they even have you can hire people that common trap them. Just get rid of them. I think they do harvest the meat but they're they're actually pretty hard on the land but then again you will see people will be like you know they'll do guided trips on like watt like boar hunts so while they're kind of a nuisance animal i think my husband he and his friends did enjoy hunting them on the property so yes so my husband actually he put up a tree stand and he's been trying to just get all these wild boar offer property so so is there a number of wild boar on your property that he's counted like other fifty or one hundred and fifty eight ten yeah yeah so. It's not like totally out of control but i think they definitely lived. There and i'd like main thing is i think when when you when you when we actually live on the land i would not want my kids to my kid or my dogs. Have a run in with any bore and you know. I felt really guilty about us. Hunting number annan i saw that you know they had left part of the car cast carcass on the on the grounds <hes> and and <hes> the the there his little pig friends just ate the rest of it within our so they're omnivores when you see them eat each other so it really just makes you not as upset about killing them. She's kinda gross. You're laying there hanging on by dear life. You're going to eat you no matter. What aw that's what scott was saying. He's like i don't wanna run my property because you know what if you broke your leg and you're stuck on the property they could just come up. Eat you and that's not cool to sail so so yeah but come to find out there actually delicious. You know sue cooked one and one yeah so we did we <hes> <hes> we brought some meat home. They harvested the meat of what they shot. Lake too and you know they say it's usually the the smaller ones. The females are tasty or if you get the really big yawkey i mean they're all kinda yucky but they're very stinky actually when you when they've been on the property and you're there you can tell they were there. It's like ah but the meat is actually really good and i thought it was going to be really game me but i wasn't and i just did a a wet age and you cry backley ackley steal them up and then a couple of days and then i brian them for like for like maybe four hours and then it was it was just a loin <hes> not a tenderloin orlov's loin <hes> but it was extremely lean as you would expect out it was delicious and there was no weird taste or anything <hes> and you know my only mistake was actually over cooking it because i was a little bit <hes> just skeptical because it's wild boar on by then based on research research. Some instagram irs correcting may saying hey shaw from hunter angler cook. It said that you can cook while board at one thirty seven to kill off parasites or anything on what is isn't trick not worrying about so. I cook my one sixty five next time i will cook it to one forty five which is what i normally do for like store-bought work anyway and okay now. Would you say the flavor was akin to normal pork. It's it's like the same. It's these mo- as hunter. I would say because he speaks english you like. Would you do a pulled pork a poor. If you will on i mean do they have a boston butts on those things they do and we're actually making ragu so we're making wild-boar ragu this thursday with the meat so so yeah i think it it works while in like a brace in cooking low and slow so the recipes i try the more i will share with you guys and i'll probably eventually develop some for my website you know because i have a feeling i'll be seeing a few more in my future at least potentially six. I did see somebody in the instantchat chat that said don't they have like twelve babies when they have a letter but i can't confirm or deny that so i don't want to you know set out any alarms or anything like that now the other thing that i wanted to talk to you about out i saw posted was about a guana and i think it was like a tongue in cheek thing initially about yeah. Send me recipes for guana but then all of a sudden it became all too real and the people are sending you real recipes to eat iguana and you have now double down and you're going to actually try this yes and so how it all happen and by by the way i just have to back this up by saying if any of you guys have ever read any carl hiaasen <hes> who is like a pretty popular author and <hes> a couple pretty famous movies have been or one famous movie was made off of one of his books which was strip tease. Carl hiaasen rates a lot of like funny mystery novels. They're always based on a florida unless you until you've lived in florida you you'd think <unk> is totally crazy and he's like where does he get these ideas in these stories right and then you realize that this is like the crazy stuff that happens and and <hes> and so lately i've been saying oh my god i feel like my life like this chapter is is like a chapter carl hiaasen novel and it would be titled titled rednecks and reptiles and so <hes> anyway just because i feel like since i've moved to spend like like like i don't know it's like the theme but i'm loving it. I'm having so much fun so what was about so guavas so <hes> my my girlfriend told me that she is like she's killed like sixteen iguanas in her backyard in the conversation came up because she was like i feel really bad if guilty and you know i love animals animals just like you <hes> but <hes> these things are so gross and so evidently you know i was in south florida. We had aguado guan is everywhere but i guess it's gotten to the point where fish and wildlife is instructing people to kill them humanely because it's become kind of out of control and they do like poop everywhere and the <unk> they a lot of vegetation and so <hes> so a lot of people have been killing them and i'd still have made something like not a joke but just like an observation i said something on instagram and then this guy that i know on instagram was like actually <hes> hashtag stat you because it's called chicken of the tree and i did learn about this. I cut like a couple of months ago because i don't know if i told you this greg remember made that joke because hunter i came into his room and he was grilling his stuffed. Animal iguana like his stuffed animal iguana was on his little fake webber grill and i was like what's going. We're not here and i thought it was odd and i mentioned that to a friend of mine. He was like oh yeah chicken of the tree and i was like what so that was my first time mike kind of run into that it was it was what four shuttle it was a foreshadowing. That's exactly what it was and i thought it was really odd and funny at at the time and then so anyway talking to my friend posted that comment on on my instagram story in this guy from panama says <hes> i will share with you my grandmother's grandmother's recipe for iguana. It's delicious. It's way better than chicken on he says i can you know it's illegal to cook it in panama now he said by you have the opportunity is really should try it and so then i was like <hes> and then the idea came in my head and i was like maybe i should try to like do a guana because what the hell because like you know at the same time. People are just putting these things in their freezers just killing or they're just killing them. You might as well like make use of the meat big got like i'm not hip to my latest iguana information. Is it like a two pound thing or ten pounds thing like how big is it well. I mean they can be like small like maybe like a baby when could be like a foot and then they can get really big like maybe like four footer and sue my friend raven was like you just killed <unk> an iguana. Do you want it and i was l. Let me back up and so then this other person. I know who lives about an hour away from me and she is the cool check and we we keep she's very florida like her husband's like a captain like she's always doing really florida ish stuff in. She mentioned she was like oh. It's interesting you mentioned that we we have a we put we have a major guana problem here as she says and i keep them on my chest freezer until trash day comes and i was like <hes> and so then i started thinking our i should like give iguana a try and so then i mentioned that to my husband and he was like while his friend who owns this company called quack skins which makes this like florida cammo because you know our stuff is really more bright green than it is like the colors of cammo and other other places so he may anyway. He's like yeah. My friend quack skins takes guided hunts four iguana in the offseason. I'm assuming humains ducks off season of ducks. 'cause it's my husband <hes> so i what i wanna do and this is what i'm going to hopefully have the opportunity to share with you. Guys is is to go on guana hunt and kill it myself and then cook it and share with you guys how it's done so so <hes> so stay tuned that is kind of like you know i have that hashtag never say never <hes> it sounds so crazy and hints where i said it sounds like something gotta carl hiaasen novel but i think actually it will be really cool and it's it's a food source. It's going away. Some people are basically shooting iguanas with pellet guns letting them putting putting them in their trash. So why not why not <hes> so. That's your homework for this coming. Month is to get an iguana down on get that chicken out of the tree and then make a recipe and then come back and tell us all about it. Make sure that you video all of it especially the dispatch portion because is people always want to see that and then let's see. Let's see what you how you view it in a month. I'm excited about it. It's gonna be fun. I took an opportunity for me to go out atten beyond the the woods around the water and learn something new robert. It seems like you always you know. I'm i'm taking advantage on uh. It seems like you're convincing yourself. The where you're at in florida is like really good but maybe you really want to retreat back to hollywood florida where it was nice and not so frigging while to my right. There's you know i think i'm really happy here. Brother robin deer check one check one tamil stupid skype. I knew it stupid skype robin that's it. I'm sorry i have no idea what happened but lost you. Oh well. I know john sober. That's convenient hit right gone. No problem was going over anyway but sorry robert not sure exactly what have maybe the <hes> the internet and south floor or wherever the hell she that is a little lackluster to let's see we got one there there. Hey let me talk quickly about the barbecue guru. They have always believed that outdoor. 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We are back at the first hour stick around be right back <music> and and big name interviews advice on cooking brisket ribs and they only host willing to share his honest opinion on all things important in the world barbecue. It's hugh central show sports michelle. It'll be brought by firebird monitor to six different temperatures simultaneously connect to wi fi for cloud based monitoring or connect via bluetooth alexa or the google the assistant you're locked because fiber fully integrated with both check it out fireballs dot com or call eight one six nine four five two to three to ooh. I am using my firebird more and more. I love it. I get a report back from robin. Her internet internet cut out. We were ten seconds out from ending the segment anyway so no big a we are heading the second hour again. That was robin. 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The Best Moments of The BBQ Central Show in 10 Minutes or Less

The BBQ Central Show

22:08 min | 1 year ago

The Best Moments of The BBQ Central Show in 10 Minutes or Less

"This is the best moments of the barbecues central show in ten minutes or less ever wish you could listen to your favorite interview or segments. Do you enjoy enjoy older shows for the first time in years but by Peirce moments of the Barbecue Central Show in ten minutes or less. He's just would you need thanks for listening and enjoy the show. Hello Hello Hello and welcome to this edition of the best moments of the Barbecue Central Show in ten minutes or less today. We're GONNA talk all Thanksgiving stuff. Greg is GONNA chop it up with Steven Reich went on some Thanksgiving second segment today. Another one of my all time. Favorite Gas Greg's eggs. Mom Greg and Connie are GONNA throw down a couple of Thanksgiving recipes for you as well. Let's get right to it here. Is Greg and Steven from from November the seventeenth two thousand fifteen sh. Have you ever considered suggesting something other than Turkey for Thanksgiving. I haven't You know I'm a traditionalist and not only by Traditional with Turkey should would be the main meat of Thanksgiving but I am not a partisan of spatchcock in Turkey. I think Turkey should be whole to be beautiful it should be the visual centerpiece taste as well as the GUSTA Tori centerpiece I do smoke Turkey. I mean actually every year I cook a Turkey away And I've done that since I got out of college but I've sort of settled into running and then what a call smoke roasting not straight smoking. Because what happens a straight smoke at a low temperature. Skin turns to remember but if you work at higher temperature you get Chris Skin and a wonderful smokey bird. So that's that's what I do. Walk by the way just went up on barbecue. Bible Dot Com twelve. Do's and don'ts of Turkey all right so HEAD ON OVER TO BARBECUE BIBLE DOT COM. I'm to get twelve. Do's and don'ts we'll probably hit on those here during the segment here. But let me ask you this When we talk about birds you go into any grocery store especially now you see the a huge sections of frozen butter balls and you know you name it Turkeys? That are out there. There is within the community. The I don't know if it's an argument or continuing conversation of frozen bird ash birds and I'm wondering what side the UN weigh in on and why a fresh bird guy. Because I believe fresh is always better than frozen. I'm heritage dirty. Guy Which means one of those old timey breeds that may not have humongous breasts but has a more or interesting flavor and texture. I'm an organic Turkey Guy I do not buy a pre injected Turkey. I do not like to buy. Why actually avoid pre Brian Turkeys? I'd rather put my own Brian in not pay somebody else The cost of water. You know buying it via Turkey and but you know basically And I say this throughout the show where your food comes from. How has raised matters much smoking? And I'd rather spend a little more. Eat a little less or serve me a a little bit less but no I'm eating really good. Quality really cleans it. You'd mentioned that you're a big believer now in brining and one of the other our ongoing conversations When it comes to brining is that it has a tendency to make the meat mushy? So is that a process thing. Is that leaving it in the Brian Brian too long a do you find that the texture of the meat can change. When you're Brian? Well sure it can change. But I would say the whole key to brining. Is Brining at the right amount of time in the right. Saturation Yeah I used to joke that sort of When people discover brining it's a little bit like teenagers and sex? You WanNa do it on the time and it you can over Bryan Bryan does sort of make food taste the same if you do it all the time the same way you do it too much but for me I'm looking probably at about a sixteen to eighteen hour brine Amid three quarters of a cup of salt per gallon of water. It's not excessive. You still have plenty of cheer to the meat To me it's lovely. It's not to say I haven't injected Turkeys have sought the say that sometimes I haven't reached my hand under the skin Spread butter sliced truffles under the skin. I've done that. That produced the great Turkey. But I just find myself coming back to the to the brining method again and again. Do you flip an and cook breasts down. Do not at any never at any point in the cook you ever done. No I haven't I'm sure I have at some point or other but No I now I Breast up it's a smoke roast them we're going about maybe three twenty five to three fifty by the way one thing I do is cook relatively small bird. I like twelve to fourteen bird and if I need more than that Iraq to birds that size rather than one monster get more control do you find. I'm GONNA completely diverge off of what I was going to ask you. But you said are big monster and when I think big Mosser Christmas and then I think my mom and I think prime rib. Do you believe in huge prime ribs or do you believe in in a similar philosophy of two small to medium wants to feed the same amount of people versus big honking seven Boehner. Good question Because I'm doing a prime rib on a spit because that's the way I like to do a prime rib if I don't think there's an enormous difference between a seven bone or two three to four bone accept that you'll lose two ends but the willpower of doing a seven bone bringing out a whole seven bone is it offsets that second and cut So things a little bit different. I guess maybe because it's more cylindrical shape but with with Turkey. I mean. They're here to twenty two pound Turkey. There's so much distance between the breast and the center. That's a big. That's a big word as a big Stephen Reichel and joining me here on the show barbecue. Bible DOT DOT COM his website projects dot org as well. If you want to check it out I was talking with my middle daughter when we were kind of setting up the the makeshift studio while we're still under construction here and she said Hey does Paul which is my father in law. Does Paul eat that stuff inside the Turkey that I see you pull out every once in a while so so let me ask you. Are you a A gizzard Kinda guy will you eat gizzard you make Gizzard gravy. Or do you just toss that stuff right now I smoked the heart the gizzard and the neck Right along with the bird. And then use those ingredients to make my smoked Turkey sock which becomes soup which actually becomes the zoo or the gravy? That did I serve at the Turkey. I also smoked the Turkey liver and that gets ground up with smoked. Hard boiled eggs caramelized. Onions becomes a Turkey lover. Pet Day way to serve before the Thanksgiving meal and we. We always really love that when it comes to gravy or os you or whatever everyone. We're talking specifically here about the Thanksgiving meal. Do you tend to fare more on the thinner gravy. That seems to be making more and more of a of I. Don't know if it's a resurgence or a surgeon or whatever you WANNA call it. I mean when I grew up it was kinda thick and Kinda you know light Brown Brown and tasted really good. It was probably really unhealthy but all of a sudden. I'm starting to see a little bit more of a thinner version of this being quite the quite thing to do. I'm more as you guy than a thick gravy gun. Stephen let me ask you one of the other. Great things about Thanksgiving is everything else. That isn't the Turkey so it's the sides right. So what what do you like Traditionally and perhaps what have you found. That might be a little bit more outside the box that you really like well again. I'm a traditionalist traditionalist You know stuffing which I never actually stuff into the Turkey because I think it's bad for both Turkey stuffing but a cook Smoke roasted again in a cast iron skillet. What we're going to be doing this year? It's a recipe from the new book. The new project smoke book. And it's a a mushroom bread pudding so you so take exotic mushrooms chestnuts then they go in with the bread cubes that had been smoked and toasted in smokers. Smokers get a little extra smokey flavor. Usual caramelized onions Plenty of smoke Turkey broth and an eggs and that smoke roasted in smoker. or in your grill. It's fantastic so that'll be stuffing cranberry sauce. A- make one when batch traditional always from scratch. Always with whole cranberries try and keep the sugar to a minimum A ginger. Let's fresh ginger to it lemon jess because I really liked to pump it up. And then some years. I'll do like a cranberry salsa with Jalapenos and Cilantro that sort of a nod to kind of a modern approach coach. What else do we do? We do barbecued onion. Sometimes we'll do a smoked cream. Corn sometimes I I know our desert. This year is going to be the the Bourbon Bacon Apple Chris that we did on On project smoke last year. That's real family favorites but I'm I'm pretty traditional. The other thing. The other thing that I saw desert wise was these there were whole apples. Also looks like you would court out newer stuffing brown sugar and other. What does that all about tremendous? Well remember the baked apple so you hollow it out you stuff it with brown brown sugar and butter and ground up cookie crumbs or ground up nuts so is my version of Bake dapple accepted cooked in a smoker instead of The oven soon acquires a smoky dimension. You know smoke and fruit. I mean smoke has this wonderful Amami quality and by that I mean it's not it's it's not the sort of savory salty flavor like you get within a mommy food like mushrooms or seaweed but it has the ability to take them familiar food and help and let you enjoy joy. It from a different perspective is smoke fruit. You're enjoying the sweetness but there are other qualities to it that you wouldn't get if you're deceiving to put in your request for a future show. Please contact John Sobered by Email John J. O. N. at the BBQ Central. Show DOT com. Steven Reich Glenn chopping it up Thanksgiving still more Thanksgiving talk to come. I know this show may have been dropping a little close to Thanksgiving but not really. It's a few days away and I'm sure a lot of you are still struggling with your game plan so hopefully this will help you out something else that we'll help you out is if you follow the big barbecue. Central Show on social media it is at BBQ central show on instagram and twitter slash BBQ central show over on facebook. Let's jump right into this second segment today. Here is connie recipe with Greg again from November seventeenth two thousand fifteen. Welcome back You have filed the Barbecue Central. Haven't had the aboard by the way. Maybe never knew that in a week in two days from now Thanksgiving common alert alert. Not Kidding. He thought I was lying. When I was talking about it with Steven Reich with well guess what up? Not but I'm here to save your ass yet again and here to help me do it. None other than the lady that helped save my ass a number of times as I was growing up as a huge connie rent be my mommy joins me on the phone my fabulous. Thank you for asking entailed. We're ready to go. I mean we have a Thanksgiving coming up Lake Blake. I'm sure nobody can believe is going to be the best one ever for a number of people and I'm like we gotta have you on onto at least give him an Stephen. I don't know who Steven Reich Lynn is of course but he just GAM don about whatever he was. I fell asleep halfway through because I was waiting resting for your guidance because if somebody wants the kind of traditional not pilgrim type Thanksgiving but something you're used to that's GonNa make you feel like you're back home again. Maybe you're somewhere where you're not going to be able to get back home or somebody. That normally cooks it for you. This is something that's going to make people feel good it in their stomach and in their hearts absolutely so what are they wanNA. What do we want to talk about? I we'RE GONNA START WITH DESERT WE WANNA go to side died or just want to go right to the bird. I think we'll start with a bird. Go ahead work down to the sides and maybe but This year I'm doing doing a slightly different technique. I'm going to be covering the bird with a cheese cloth that's soaked in butter and wine. What kind of cheese are you going to use a joke? Tougher the clock off of the cheese. He's yes it was a joke. That's a joke funny very funny yes but I'm doing i. I usually do a big bird no matter how many people I got I just like all the leftovers and we eat Turkey forever. So I'm getting around a twenty pound Turkey and getting. Yeah oh I think probably the biggest one we used to have maybe twenty six pounds. I there there's no such thing as a twenty six pound Turkey. Believe me you've eaten at twenty six pound Turkey yes sir but fray trey so big well then the bigger the better trained. What are we talking about all right? So a twenty pound Turkey this year down from twenty six pounds in years past. Wow that's a huge. All right yes but I get the free range organic Turkey. Because you know you and Steve Reich well you know yeah you WanNa Turkey that you know until you murderer it has had a good light horse shit I do. I want that thing to be miserable. I'M GONNA eat it checked hormones and steroids thyroid's I need everything I need all the help I get for crying out loud on no. No you don't got to be a purist farm fresh right you got that big bird. You're going to take it out of the refrigerator for you. Know like an hour or so beforehand Kinda let us take the chill off and give them a nice little rents it's dry and You'RE GONNA preheat the up into four hundred fifty degrees and then I'm taking a bottle of wine and and three sticks of butter very decadent right there melted together. And you're gonNA fold your cheese cloth up so it's kind of like a seventeen inch square there with four layers and you're going to put it right in that butter wine mixture and just leave it there to soak yet get your bird. You'RE GONNA put it on a roasting rack and your pan Rubber doll with butter salt and pepper salt and pepper the cavity and fill it with whatever stuffing you want. Then you're GonNa take the yes Talk a little wings underneath it types little legs and you're gonNA put that exactly. Yes you're going to take the cheesecloth out of the butter mixture kind of not really wring it out. Ah just so. You're not dripping all over the place put it on top of the bird covered all up. Maybe halfway down the sides and put it in the oven for about a half an hour and then you're gonNA turn down the oven till Three hundred and fifty degrees basting it and turn it back down. You'RE GONNA roast it for about another two and a half hours basting every thirty minutes and then you're going to after three hours in the oven. You're you're gonNA take that cheesecloth off carefully and that it's supposed to give you a really Mahogany kind of Texture on the outside Nice coated dark brown deliciousness You take off the cheesecake you're going to rotate the pan in the oven. So it it browns evenly you know front to back and After about the fourth hour you're going to check the temperature for dumbness. Now when I I sent this is often you. I said check it for Dennis at one hundred eighty degrees which I must say I had a cold at the time and was feeling sick and thought a what have I done. 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA WANNA want to check it out at about one hundred and sixty five degrees. So you overcooked that sucker but Yeah so what about one hundred and sixty five degrees. You WanNa take it out of the Evan let it rest for a good hour half an hour forty five minutes an hour. Because you've been a gonNa do the rest of your sides in the oven and That's pretty much it for the Turkey aren't so you know that the barbecue people in this Chat Room Turkey in the oven. Gherardo so let me tell you screw you people. It's my mom you're talking about so you could beat your disinvited from the show all right. I handled that handle thank you well. I've never seen such drivel in malfeasance and my chat room before I'm about ready to shot at Dow. Well not everybody for those few people that don't want to smoke or you know they can fry. They can eat McDonald's and screw off as what they I can do. -rageous I'm not going to have to talk to my mother like that all right so so so. This is the first time with cheesecloth ever right so I'll have to let you know how it turns out in the end. We know what happens if that doesn't like it and you know he starts hitting so watch out put on the armor. That's true. Well you never know all right. That's right so now. Here's something with The sides pan roasted Brussels sprouts with bake now allow. Allow me to go back in my memory banks of things that you have never made ever when I was around in this past atop the list the Pan Roasted Brussels. I don't think I've ever saw Brussel sprout. My life you're right. I know it never what what is going on that one of you. That one of your children would have eaten a Brussel sprout. Well what do you know that I am pretty sure right and cream dried beef on toast and it was the list breath sprout. That's what I'm toast. I is delicious. I know I just said that I loved it. I know that's that's the only one that should be Thanksgiving dinner. That should be Thanksgiving dinner. Cream freeze dried beef. That's a quick cleanup too by the way would be okay with me. Talk to me about Brussels sprouts okay. This is very easy and it has bacon in it so you would probably like that. But you know. You're taking your Brussel sprouts. Your you know fresh Brussels sprouts cut them in half You're going to Chop up a half an onion and to begin with you're gonNA take about four strips of Bacon Cookham until they're crispy and then you're gonNA crumble them up and in that same pan that you have cooked the Bacon You're going to add to that bacon fat a couple of tablespoons able spoons of butter. So you're going to add a little fat to the fat and put the Onions and the Brussels sprouts back in the Pan and Saute it for about. Oh eight to ten minutes and at a little salt and pepper. And you're done you can just cover it up. Keep a Mormon something thing that doesn't have to go in the oven. So you have more room in the oven for other side dishes but That's really good very tasty. You'RE GONNA put in that crumbled bacon on the top up and mix it all up and it's really good now by four strips of Bacon. You mean like a pound and a half right well at least yeah. Yeah the more more baking the better mobike into better. That's right for everyday life and in the pan. Rose Brussel sprouts with Bacon right so easy enough on the side dish and there you have it. There's a lot more in this show head over to the BBQ central show dot com. There's a link in the show notes that will take you to the complete episode. If you want to hear the rest of Stephen Thoughts or Connie's recipes make sure you check that out in the meantime with the holiday right around the corner. Here's to enjoying the company company of good friends and family good food wishing you successful cooks for the holiday and until next time on the best moments of the Barbecue Central Show in ten minutes or less. I'm your host John Solberg. I look forward to talking to you again soon.

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5 Things to Remember When Managing API Platforms by eBay Sr PM

The Product Podcast

25:13 min | 1 year ago

5 Things to Remember When Managing API Platforms by eBay Sr PM

"This podcast is made possible by heat. A smaller approach to product analytics. Learn everything about uses run rapid experiments and it's rate quickly hypothesis driven product managers. There's no better to learn more at heaped buyout. Welcome to the product podcast brought to you by product school. The podcast where you get fresh insight from leaders atop tech companies and startups remember you can learn product management in person at our fifteen campuses worldwide or study with. Us online visit products school dot Com to learn more about our courses. You can also hang out with the leaders from these. Podcasts are hundreds of annual events and catch US at product con the world's largest PM conference that takes place every year across the United States and in London. So I work on this song. I have been divided. Management for now is operatives engineer on demand for anti is often that. I joined the company in there. Isn't one space that is that phone far. Banking removing dairy farm ground so diluted by formerly imagine. The police came out for us. I- Junkies on so I have been a quite sometime. I hope you show me so I think you already know the topic or the or the evening five things to remember when managing platforms. He is but I am. These are the odd for online percents. anymore said then the guy's about By the ones that I went to cover here I was drinking stressed. That are not only the five thing sued remember is more like the five things we should never forget so this sequence it further You just cannot afford to ignore this saints. Convene about hard work with platforms. Cpi Sarah resisting all of us sense right so what I am done. Two covers part of the session. introduction divide is. That's how you define the role for five. Managers are minute on the phone. Companies have defined. You saw that your soul we can look at some of the definitions and just stop Asif. You have for the patient on. What is the reason is us understand what to yourself was to do as managers is are jumping? Do what you mind than working on these products and then I tried to share some recipes as some of the platforms have worked on insists. Both civil living. There are some those. That's an agenda for the next thirty forty minutes or so so it was a new product. Line visit this is the mission of full of it and provided. Niger is the one one that I liked him. Highlight of the main thing by like this a technique product. Niger is also a business owner. Because another time seeping available game is supposed to Saddam design and will to architecture options solutions. Reichel which he you know other backers lying on the process often. You expect us to be very very for coming. From technical background doesn't HEART IMPACT. It helps at because you do dwarf engines and an young users at ascension version of boats sipping had slider sound however that also is not useful for setting sending me is muscle and serve happy faith about users have taking about his inside us. You have become all that is basically structured on of the House of others fourteen. Jesus who had thus ensuring but as a pm the key goal is to the listening position for Reaching this case is about foam so again says like if you just search google search you find like maybe per in on versions Glenn's platform with and say oh. I picked this because I never found his on those very pressing asks more electrical outfit by using Leslie. Since I'm he says the are trying to build the product From pronged up that your user research sessions but on the main things you understand whether the uses long should support but ended. They tried to boost everything because they does not on the meaning S. He offer platform as you should be playing of the divisions lovely things and the the general strike so in my opinion that is the main battle having platform this approach versus having courtyard based approach. And what if he is again? Api stands for the Asian branch. Too busy on that. But it's very easy as nothing but is offering to mediate. It helps off assistance about feature that always repressed Versus Sunglasses economy in the background and go duo of the first season. A SAN system was set up some sort of on the versus just more the handshake any request forms on new so bad suspension or APS their requests and responses humiliation for nausea All of a sudden things that then end of the Language and everything can be extracted from longer view. What should matter? This however is talking water. The data points in how that country is happening of inefficiency for have made all us. So that's in a nutshell. I wanted to cover. I sleep really highly recommend thing to whatever the first thing I wanted to highlight his consummate the Isis and and I think most of the people that that's awesome right like because you have heard so much about sickness we want to create caught us at a CBC customers appreciate in Beverly Our products and beyond the Champions Right. So you think that's that's stuff it sounds was to be. So why should I you folly founder? Like have Gandak message by the thing. I would like to point out his Think about nine your Your users are not just like a regular consumer loses phone navene veteran things the Delaware I e R Writing coach. Who'd off your back on Itunes? There's lot of war. And the level of engagement or the level of investment that goes into the grading on spot high so they do not want to move it easier so if they have indicated that the second version of the last long easy ones. They want to stay that forever and they just wanted to eat one. Don't have any addition way forward right. So say it's a problem monitor. I would like to see my product move because I have been. He's like a version of that and I want to keep evolving which might at times neon do propose some breaking changes Harbor all users are dead on that that fall who cannot Moses. Who for if he didn't move with us so all? Those universities has equity impact of the. You can on pretty all of all of those things Saturday Jer. How do you keep mckinney avenue beyond appointed because pretty picky because you have to keep mentioning phases inversions every time you move you leave behind unavoidable number rather than Ben Janda point that becomes radio unmanageable about the maintenance overhead of he sunhat? So he's like these that he is not a good thing for platform but having said that don't do not once more people on that. Of course he knew our needs designing them even my back. But in fact of not make breaking Fiji grounded in the cannot move forward at this Design jobs they have to give you might as easy and circle this. I think most of the company that she wanted to have very complex assistance. I have a lot of of times. He advanced the proven cycles Which is why that phone rag mattress down to jump to headlights So the second thing I want to talk about this on the New Year's coming sunshine about if you are taking the next year Plumbing visitations of that great but I will say that I think that falls them. They WANNA sit in Because that phone with you too much longer than other human B. to C. Paths Cross right and like I said in my fresh light the actually so you don't right and you haven't thought through a lot of future scenarios in have to make adjustments and see the back hall. What happened in the Saturday? Service offer So far in the future thiry but you have to make an impact. How will this slap on the heat? And it's five years tenure so that should be in this thinking for the next one year for our own product is not usually so it certainly needs to y'all multiagency so the third thing I want to talk about his language the market Like you would launch so the United States lissome says you need to think before. So this is a product you happy plan go to market but then In in some cases you might think that this is less than for that fall asleep. I am blocking makeup Z. Y. Or assemble than seven feature or something like that. A bad needs to have a dog approach. This might not be true our platform FBI Even less tangible insufferably convention move Affairs songs the Yucai seats on concept your and disabled. So there's the need sense you don't do a good plan do I need to Saddam Won't make any actions. Yes because he knew that he cannot understand. Who's our parents? We do not offer those of users and a backbone is option and without adoption in the guard at the fall or instead of against of the month myth without actually adobe settles on these on signing Thinking it might mean different things than you think. Once Mike on this in France it might not be on. Ship are but it might be what you're doing. Your host see that of advances inviting developers comments at town jockey who and television watcher plans to get or being after the van. This is coming all of that. So that he's the event of China's defrays with exercise on the Silver number of topic on my list is partnerships and by partnerships. I mean the partner so I'm show that I it's like calling me. You see some of the most popular for see I was right. The reason why became so successful in this series of available in Edison and all those accent the farmers. Watch report so nevio. 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Mount Some Druids with Sascz of Translucidity

FrazlCast - A World of Warcraft Podcast

1:18:37 hr | 5 months ago

Mount Some Druids with Sascz of Translucidity

"And welcome fussell cats. Come aboard the train. Please make sure to keep your lips and experimental instruments inside the trina. And now i want to show podcast by blizzard. Fan know about world of warcraft. And geeky stuff. I promise you they do talk about the world of warcraft. They just go off the rails sometimes and tonight we will definitely be on the railed. Maybe about half of the show and afterwards i wanted to learn more about this. This fancy new podcast. My guest has also host on. But i and i am joined by francis entity back now. You said something about you wanted to know about my pants. And i was like well every last fancy and i i will born regular pants not as interested. Well yeah today. I'm actually wearing fruit of the looms boxer brief so yeah not the most exciting very often. I have my silky. Sweet me undies on but new if only they response to you because then you could be wearing me undies. That's why i'm just wearing the plain ones because mundy's isn't sponsoring the show. Come on these ads your chance but you blew out could have been wearing my hedgehog but but now yeah well. He knows somebody who i don't know if he has me on these but i do know he sponsored by a beard company having insanity what time is it. It's time to go around the table so recently l. Let me see. I'm still unemployed. Which really sucks honestly. I thought it was going to find a job right away. Because the last time i was out of work i found a job right away but then unfortunately it ended so But i just thought it would be immediate. I was just like what's the big deal and it wasn't at of course you know the big difference between the two things is is covid just i didn't think it was going to affect my field so it's very at him and i'm very upset about it but whatever still are still hopeful. I actually just broke ground yesterday. On the writing for fettuccine novel. I have been contemplating for a couple years now. So i mean when i say broke ground. I think i wrote two sentences. But as del yeah. That's something so so. Is this one that i you've you've had it for a long time that you've been mowing back your head percolating in my brain. Yeah yeah so. I'm still a little bit uncertain of exactly where the plot is going new by a mike. You know what fuck it. I'm just gonna start and if it sucks it sucks and if it doesn't a dozens it's very very very loosely. Based on some stories that. I worked out while i was role playing over on moon guard with my wow tunes i it has not. I don't know anybody who i talked to the at that time is the listen to this show. If they do they have nothing to worry about. I am not taking anything from anybody. I've taking things that. I worked out in the background in my own. Mind about my own characters without you know their characters. Are there situations being at all involved. Yeah that reminds me of somebody who G norman lippert and this was again before all the stuff with rolling but he did a fantasy fan fiction series now james potter and he had a character in there he had been working on so he actually took that character. It was unique to him. Took away all the other parts. That would tie it to harry potter and released a novel on that and now he's actually doing the work based off that work so it's i love that idea of taking stuff that you've worked on and flushing out into its own unique story. Yeah well i get the impression. It's really common honestly in fantasy circles to base things on stuff either from role playing games d. and there's some very obvious. Dnd novels out there. And i'm not talking about novels. That are published by wizards of the coast. I don't even think so. And and i know there's a lot of t rpg companies now based off of that. Yeah but i mean. I'm not talking about you. Know actual novel tires titans. I'm talking about people who take the. Ged campaigns novel is them and sometimes it can be really obvious him badly done like so and so walked a few steps to the north. Yeah no a. Yeah but if it's done well. I'm reading right now trilogy. That i think was probably based on. Somebody's d campaign or at least tabletop role playing experience. But it's so well done that. I'm just. I'm really enjoying it. it's called The elvis trilogy. By i think it's s g prints the name at its. It's really good. I'm on the second book right now. And i've seen a few flaws in it but it's pretty good subduing that i've been reading some other fake Thanks so much row. But i guess we'll probably talk about that later so maybe i should put the wow stuff later. Yeah mind down later to because yeah. We actually got quite a bit about news today. Yeah wow as well in a long say. That's what i've been up to. I'm really. I'm really excited about writing. Millar i'm hoping that i can. I can spend at least an hour or so doing that per day. So and i think that's smart. You don't burn out on it and like you're able to do other stuff as well and going forward. I think i'm going to avoid burnout gentleman's more about that as well as we go into that. I've been playing some other games. In addition to while i finally finished dark siders and that was phenomenal. I love the fact that it's like the religious in times and things that i've read about in the bible seeing them. I how they portrayed that and i've always wanted to play the game is fucking phenomenal like you are having to do the the proper moves on time. It's frustrating. i wanted to take down. You can't listen the first one. But i'm glad i finished it and like it surprised some some of the stuff that they did. I love those puzzles fighting. It's really well done an for being came. That was made in two thousand ten at still lives up. It looks amazing opinion. Oh wow. I'm going to have to try this game because i always say that and then it's like oh am i going to play a game. It will probably be. Wow but yeah. And that's why i've been trying to add and other games. I'm still going while as a while. Podcasts i wild my main game but i'm trying to enjoy other games like one game and i brought to us. A lot is legend of zelda link to the past. I have butts down with. It has a kid and it was a game that i remember my sister going into the game store and she was buying this game. That kid like wow. This game is cool. My sister's gig. She i love her and all that. I always wanted to beat this game. I've never done it so this is my next game. I'm going to beat a link to the past the first play playthrough on youtube. And i'm going to be trying to upload the steve as well. This is a very historic game. And it's like the music. When i'm hearing bringing chill part of this game and i love it so much got it seems to me like it was just the other day that it was released. I know i know i. I'm like this. The store i grew up at six or seven to me it affected that over game really and it. It's amazing i i. I love how they've been tried. Things like the map was like almost a three d map. I liked the things that they were able to do on the snes. And i'm so glad. That switch has their emulator. Because then i don't wanna get into like the pros and cons of rum's but at least glad that something that i can play without fear of like having the find old games and all that and all i did hear nintendo switch craft or maybe it was the initial couple of into guests. 'cause i having switched now. I'm getting addicted to own into news. But they were saying that. There's rumors that the gameboy maybe coming to switch online as well like that would be amazing. My god yeah. Sometimes i miss my gameboy. I ended up giving it. Because i wasn't really using it. I ended up giving my really really fancy. Tricked out gameboy to my son several years ago and i know he's still uses it that's because honestly he was good he was go out and spend a lot of money on you know and get it. All tricked out stuff and i was like listen. I'm probably never giving us this again. I feel bad sitting around with it. You know an having it when you want one. So here and i don't regret that but at the same time i miss a lot of game boy games and i'm hoping if nintendo can be bringing back a lot of these old titles and all that like old ds. Titles i know. Three s has been discontinued so let me see three stuff but like if they can just pump the stuff into the switch not focus on the big titles though they away round that control has a cloud version on it and my i got a i got a friend. Who's he's been playing control on switch over the cloud and i think if switch can really capture that market of pumping it full of things like make it your your legal rahm thing again. I'm not saying that other illegal. But i'm just saying if they can really get into that they could really capture a huge market. And maybe they are. Maybe they're working on adding more and more stuff. I mean switch online if they added it to the home screen. It sounds like they have some big stuff that they're working on their good. Yeah well today. Our talk about one of the most anticipated games of all time and i will not mentioned other game. I have my own the game but one of the most anticipated games of all time at least two us as wild fans the shadowlands. Ooh yeah i i love it. We've had three weeks to play. It was already been three weeks interest. I just finally hit sixty on frazzled. And i'm still working through heaven breath. That's awesome. I actually hit sixty and we weren't at war mode so kinda surprised me about. We hit sixty as we ended our willed at. I was like oh fuck. We still do revenue growth. Because i just i we both wanted to go arden wheeled. Oh yes it is. Yeah but we went ahead. And we played through revenue growth before we. We chose a covenant. Just we could see what the covenant ability is would be like and lala and they are pretty cool. The the ones for both hundred druid but i we definitely decided to stick with With arden wheeled. But yeah leveling is really especially. If you're doing it with somebody else leveling home you just do it and i. I'm glad they buff leveling. Because i was playing the of the campaign and i got to the point where i finished all of the main i had sought to get to the next part so i'm actually glad that you can do it and i got a bigger advantage because i site because well but i'm glad that you don't do this to get the sixty. Yeah i think that's why we did all the side quests that we could find yeah in all the places because i think we weren't sure that we were ever going to get around to doing them on our other tunes or what our gas so. I think. That's why we hit sixty at the end of our willed was because we had done. These side quests and and on top of it you know gathering professions will give you a little xp etcetera etcetera. So so we did hit sixty a lot sooner than i thought we would but as i say. We pretended we didn't. We just played through revenue draft as if we had hit sixty that went ahead and turned everything in and went. Yes we want aren't meal for covenant is the best comedy the characters and stuff like that. I don't wanna say too much because we're still in that moment. I don't want to spoil anybody on specifics yet. i also love some amounts toys. You can get. We haven't gotten everything yet but there's like a harp toy in our field. Oh yeah yeah yeah. yeah so. There's this one place. And i don't think it's too far from the forest but it could be wrong because i don't remember where it is or maybe it's not too far from the first section. We got it really early on but you see a harp. I think it is like a larger standing harp at a big drum. And if you and another person in a group but if you both play them simultaneously than you can open the box that's between them and it's a little harp toy the only that you can play this harp toy it it has. You can play for ten minutes as a two-minute cold out so you can be playing it. Continuously the only problem is you cannot move. Okay you can mount like you can't mount on about say there's a druid in mount four. In your group you can mount a druid as long as you don't have to move to get to them so they have to be standing right beside you so you can do that. At which means you can play mounted on druid inbound. I out drew is now quite now. That i do declare happens. And you can be in combat. Which is the hilarious thing. As long as you don't like like you could turn around and stuff you spin around and reorient yourself. You just can't step anywhere you you can't but yeah so it's hilarious. What you can accomplish and you can just be playing it all the time. It plays beautiful music. So that's it's i think it's blizzard getting back at all the people who wanted them to introduce a bar class. Yeah well now. You can be a bar. I'm okay with that move. Yeah it reminds me of stories galaxies. Because i don't think it'll be anybody but i was. I was a dancer and a musician and stars galaxy. So i can shake my hips and helium and all that a lot of fun and i would spend hours to speak in. The cantina has a dancer and musician. That was what i love to do. I people would come in from all the stuff. I reigned or metrics. They will do all this stuff. Could come in for a while. And then i would just be there and i loved that part of the open world sandbox nature the original star wars galaxies. And that you could do that. I didn't play it unfortunately but that sounds good. I got tips so it was nice to help somebody and then they'd be like oh here you go. Here's your here's some stuff because you had to train as a musician saw. I was a classically trained. My god awesome. See i want in real life. So i know how that is okay and i realize no. I kept saying i can't do any of that stuff but yeah i'm i'm loving everything in shuttle and it's so much fun i'm definitely going slow. Because i'm not getting rating. I saw jared rpg playing nafta and it looks amazing like inside. I think that that that raid. I hope that winter veil decorations but that raid looks really cool. I would love to do it. my guild isn't rating. We lost enough bodies and even though we've consolidated with some servers some are p. servers. 'cause i'm on an rpg server but we consolidated with tamara p servers a we used to be raven hall twisting nether and this is in the us. And now we've got. I forget to new ones. And i don't remember what they are now. One of them's some goblin name. I forget what the other one is. But anyway so i was like well. Why can't we just recruit but the thing about my guild. Is they kinda. Wanna make sure that you're a nice person okay. It's very friends and family. And the only reason. I'm even in it. Is that my partner. So he's got a lot of friends in the guild and he was the one who was originally invited and it was like well. I guess you can come. I know they didn't put it like that. They were like well. If it's your wife it must be nice to time. I was a wife. Yeah so they were like yeah. Your wife can come along as well and they've been frustrated with me because as time goes on my reflexes have been getting worse and worse so you know doing all the utility that hunter is supposed to be able to do kinda be on me and that would frustrate them. Because it's like well you know we have a whole bunch hundreds of this fucking great and they all suck but i tried. i learn. i burn. Tried really hard. And you know. And i certainly didn't blame healers if i died or whatever you know. It was very polite. But as i say this this season we don't seem to be rating and i think it's because we've lost a lot of our core members. I think it was on principle. I think it was issues with blizzard. Is the reason why we've lost these people but i think also that the disappointment that was battle frau's roth really made a difference as well. Yeah the morally grey direction that silvana s- went in. I think you know just upset a lot of people as well. It's funny because my partner. Chris will talk about silva's and how much he hates her. And i actually with shadowlands. And i don't wanna give anything away but with shadowlands you come to understand the reason she was such a raging asshole and bfa and you come to understand that and it's not it doesn't make it okay but you understand that not just evil. I'm glad to hear that because that was one thing that i know we had Tosh mckinlay on after we like someone who's burn the tree and tosh as something that stuck with me where in a living story we're seeing this play out and i'm glad to know that show lands will answer some stuff and that's what i'm excited for it. I wanna see what's coming next. And i think a lot of people are wanting to come back to because techradar has a thing that challenge. It becomes the fastest selling pc game of all time. Because i mean i know yeah i saw that grand theft auto five. I think is still at best one game over all on everything but pc wise i think challenges the best selling pc game and this is from blizzard that this was a recent investor report according to them and the previous holder was diablo three. So that's pretty phenomenal. Good game yeah. I'm glad that a lot of people came back to shadowlands. I just wish most of them had been my guild. Because i really really would like to be rating right now but at the same time. I'm probably not really capable of rating. And i think that they were just keeping me around to be nice. There are people in my guilt who are rating. But they're not writing as a guild. From and i definitely want to try like even at the nephews. What i'm gonna try. I have hope. I have enough determination to do that. Yeah l. afar is always a hard sell for me. I don't think. I did it at all last expansion but then there was the whole point where i just didn't play last expansion item like even on my main. I never played through the entire story until long after the last content patches had come out you know like i was going to like mecca ghana. Now's retardant stuff. But i hadn't played through the end of the last zone that i was in which meant that. I had an unlocked. The you know some of the stuff in storm song. Yeah which made world quest really hard to do before. Before i got flying but i mean like it forever to flying because i've always been one of these people who says do people's not hard to give flying. Just play the damn game. But i wasn't playing the game i mean i just i completely lost interest after i think actually after my main hit you know whatever it was one twenty i just i didn't care you know. Yeah and i'm trying to get to that point now. There are days. When i can't play and cause i can't sit up but i don't wanna get burned out but professions are better to. Do you have any professions on yes. I'm i've got mining and engineering on frazzled. Okay i'm hearing engineering's a lot easier. I haven't i haven't gotten into that on my tunes yet. But like i got to max in both getting leather working so easily on my main. That was surprised most of the way through tailoring and enchanting my second tune. They're still more. You can learn. But at max level. And you don't have to worry about getting those points. I the worst time and bfa getting up as far as i needed to get because it was gated behind rating indulgence. That's right Yes 'cause i never did a lot of those because of that thing. I think that's why. I didn't really do a lot of professions in bfa. I finally got to max in in skinning and leather. We'll getting what's hard leather working. I finally got to max. And i just didn't even bother on any of the other professions stephen try. It made me so mad. What i had to go through to get the maximum level and i was trying not to quote cheat or whatever with dark mood fair. Yeah i wanted to actually get the points but it was like you know to make this thing you have to get this stuff in this raid and do this And it's like if you don't want to do even l l f r you're screwed you know. And there's the last time. I was in ele- var which i think was the expansion before legion. Doing foreign legion was so toxic. Yeah i remember. I was in the trial of valor. That's the one with hellier and i was like. Oh i cannot believe trump gonna legendary and it's like i'm sorry a scrub. I was fucked by you. Well i'm at least. I'm glad that size embraced the scrub. Because scruffy scruffy the world. He says embrace being ascribed so. I won't brace scrub filthy casual. That's me. I remember in legion of dungeon. And someone's like my worrier does better than you and my words three. I was one ten now. Their name was baby mama like i'm nothing but just like yet and one zero three. You're not really adding you care to the lower part of the game. I'm not gonna take my perspective from you. I'm sorry. I actually reported somebody for the name the other day and i usually don't like i'm on an p. Server when there's people and there are actually from my cluster. And i see them. It's like okay. You know our p. names are supposed to fell but it's like i have a few silly names as well. Yeah you're in there so you know even on our p. servers particularly if they're bank halts so it's like whatever but i saw this one and the name was well nice cock and i was like nope not okay. You know. it's one thing if like there was another person who was like naughty kung fu or whatever. And i'm like you know okay. Fine if screw around. You shouldn't have these names on piece or but whatever but if it's like really have you heavily sexual like that now. Yeah now especially. I hate to use the the i think of the kids but kids. Youngest thirteen are are are playing this game and it's like that's not a name that that you need there. Yeah exactly it's like you know what you know if you somehow must play at. Rpd server a not choose a name that get it would fit in with with rpg. Okay fine. I know for instance that my partner chris has names like piss farts but he doesn't in foreign languages okay. His original tune is adrenaline and he gave her a greek name. Or okla say up which means piss farts his hunters dunkel bump sur. Which means something like dirk fucking or something like that. It's you know he's got another one that's like donkey bought or something like that. He somma tomah is his panda. But at least it's in a foreign language and it's probably not a good translation into that language either because terms like that are usually idiomatic. So yeah you know. It probably doesn't even really mean that in that language. I guess what i'm saying. You know definitely you terrible names but you can't tell they actually sell like nice. Rpi names you know if you saw the name oracle say you wouldn't go. Oh god not even. If you were greek you know but it it means piss farts yeah cap says he got a three r banned for piss on troll bane and see if i my feeling is you know keep it. You really should keep your name's clean for the children by especially on our server. It's like at least try at least make it. Look like you made an effort. Well nice cock no cow and i got a feeling that we're going to have a lot more names to report because baylor at a tweet that he was saying the current while subs predictions between eleven and twelve million based off the relations. Yeah that's a lot. That's that's a lot of subs. He put another tweet saying that. He's fairly sure that they can't lie in post declared because the sec investigation risk right. Yeah not an investor stuff. Yeah can't so and why would they. Well okay i'm naive. I'm one of those people who thinks that you know. Elves are sugar coated and things like that and he did say that they can selectively pick data. That looks good bye. They can cherry pick. Yeah yeah but it's pretty cool. That if i'm looking at the thing right between wrath and cattle we had twelve so we might be at one of the highest sub rates that we did that we've had and it's interesting that a expansion that's reliving hearts of replicating in different different ways but school that this is bring people back and i decided people are enjoying it that it's cool to see people that i that don't even play. Wow picking up a sub and doing stuff. It's fun that this expansion is so exciting. And and and superman plays you knew about that right. Superman plays no henry. Cavill said that he actually missed the call to do his original superman role because he was playing world of warcraft at the time and he didn't pick up the phone. He said he'd stopped playing for a while for the last couple of expansions but he said he's coming back now because it's easy to level he said you know when it got all the way up to one twenty. He was just like i'd never going to catch up. No i'm not going to do this. But he said now that it's just you know the max is back to sixty again. He says he's going to start playing again. Yes yeah he also is someone who said he can turn. Pc building videos sexy. Mike oh sorry is a good guy he is he is i have met. I mean again. I'm not really attracted to people. But i think i can possibly steve are. I think i could create carrots on those ribs when you hear because you will if you play through the whole the whole story in revenue. I could great carrots. Those ribs is the best line in the game. that quote is so great size. I have to hurt you. Cross your microphone. So i would say that we are joined settled lands like i think it is. It's been great. I love it hottie. Chicken said on a tweet that it has been healing for so many people and it really is it that. Did you see healing killing like something. We've we've been looking forward to something that can get her mind off of everything that's going on. They can enjoy a cool thing that she found was in arden. Wheeled one of the play testers lost their cat during this year. Well blizzard added the cat into artemio next to their player. I see character and you can go pet the cat. And the their cats living on in this game starling. Wow wow and then another cool thing. That i saw desperate i was doing some looking into who the actor was behind pella ghosts. 'cause we all love being a trans representative character in the game. Right how it goes. This actor is trans elliott fletcher. Oh my god. Wow i love this it stories that make you feel good. I'm absolutely loving it. It's also fun to see community members. Get immortalized as different characters. I think peculiar has turned thing if somebody from allah has a character now and never embassy and it was cool to see like vision for all the work that they've done yes. I love seeing nbc's that i recognize even federal really know anything about the person. Just that i recognize that. This is an based on you. Know somebody who's a big fan of the game or whatever. So i'm like defa festival has desks films. Gloves earned i. He has gloves in the game. That our plate because he got one hundred of the plate armor so it is cool seeing people and seeing blizzard recognize. What what what impact the. They've done yeah. Wow yeah. Just looked elliott fletcher up. That is so cool. And grenada says what heels about shetlands is that it's entirely new storyline. Nothing we've ever seen before with ties to the now but tony new view and viewpoint of the universe. That is right. 'cause they're like oh you're from asda roth. Yeah and it's fun that like you see parts of it like you see different things that we've seen on as a roth here talked about it. But it's cool learning about a new lore and learning about a new area. I was just thinking because if you choose the covenant and again i'm not gonna spoil it per se by an event happens almost immediately after you tuesday arden wheel of it. I'm excited god frazzle. You're gonna die. I just sat there the entire time. Shrieking because i'm not playing in the same room with my partner anymore. We usually have a discord video call going and we were just sitting there going. You know like dad king and screaming and grabbing ourselves you know because when you tell you about azar off and you know how they say oh you're from as they kind of getting it wrong during the event and it's just oh. I think i might be doing that other tonight or or sunday night. Whole got to see it fraz. It is the best. I get way too excited her. Yeah i i wanna put at least one tune in each covenant and do as much as i can those covenants it kinda gets me because my next tune that i'm leveling is an arcane manage. She's very even though she's not a night out herself. She's because you can be an idol of major. When i first created her and i don't usually race change. I have every once in a while. But i usually don't but she's very tied to the night i'll she's very sympathetic with them at very into them and because of that i wanted to make her arm wheeled as well because that's kind of the night elf quote unquote thing to do and then on top of it. I wanted to make my night off. Druid are kinda like yet. Those are the ones i would normally do next. But i'm kind of almost wanna skip those levelling those do somebody who want to have it in another covenant instead just to see what it's like but yeah definitely ardenne wields just just right after you joined the comment. It's just oh my god. I do agree with green. That argument is sad and reason. It's sad and i cried again. Oh but i don't want to but they're they're all sad to some extent they are even the ones who tried to be silly about it mean. I think mel drugs. This is pretty sad. You know with the the whole storyline there and revenue breath. It's actually not so much maybe sad as it's almost campy really makes me angry because i'm working through some stuff in my life on. I'm not going to all religion but we're gonna do some stuff regarding legitimate my life right now and it makes me. But i'm glad they're going through the topics here. Same same with like bastion. It also makes me angry the the abuse of power. But i think it's also a good message the that needs to be said there's an abuse of power in the world and i think reverend is like they are taking what limited that's out there i on ten the pond but i'm not gonna be funny. It drained me when i was taking the animal on that one tight quest and reverend with i'm not trying to going to spoilers too deep but that zone all the zones has something like yeah. You see why you're here. I love legion. That when the legion all this zones you were there to save the different zone. The there have had issues. And i love that you have this talent that yeah. They didn't realize that they needed you. But now they're like. Wow we need you. Yeah well and the thing is too that like with bastion. I am going to put a tune in in bastion coming up wise. But at the same time. I'm a little annoyed at bastion because it becomes an Honestly if you've if you've played through. I think even like one or two levels you you realize this. It's very early on in the story that you realize that you know these people aren't dead. Humans it's dead of every race becomes blue humans. I don't like that just seems wrong. That upsets me. what. I losing their unique this. Yeah when i didn't have to think about it. It was fine. But then when i encountered the war begins and the tour and all that who right then couldn't be come aspirants. They were in this kind of limbo. Because you know of the whole you know everything was put on. Hold because of the anime drought. Chris call anime instead of animal. I m anima anyway because of the drought you know everybody's put on hold so you see these people who are still in their old forms and then there's one guy. He is an aspirin but he's a blue human and yet his memories are all torrent. And you go wait a minute. Wait a minute. This isn't i never thought about that. Yeah yeah and so that actually bothers me a little bit because okay. All my tunes happened to be humanoids. I mean the space goats that i have the least humanoid. maybe by. It's like if they were to become aspirants they would all become these blue humans which does work into the the weird stuff that you're seeing in bashed in and like the the the the idea that in bashed in there after the one race. Yeah the l. You understand it when solana's has her much touted Conversation with anderson which. I'm not going to spoil again if you haven't seen it. But there's a cinematic making the rounds right now. Where basically silvana Has a long talk with edwin and explains everything you just get the impression while you're playing through the different places the different areas that everything does seem to be. There's something wrong you know. It's not something wrong. Just because of the drought that there was maybe a problem with all this. yeah. I'm getting that same feeling that something's wrong. That's why i'm excited the play more. Yeah so the arbiter which again this is a conversation. That's like right in the beginning when you're first learning about or does so. I don't think i'm really spoiling anything here. But what do you think is the event that screwed up the arbiter. That made her fash. I was trying to figure it out because it resembled another event that you see later on. And i'm trying to figure out like i'll mention oh not later on but i'll mentioned what i think it be. I think i was thinking something to do with the void. If i'm getting it right. Yeah i know. There's a whole lot of theories out there. Sorta like sorta like well. I don't know if i want to say this because again. It's a lot of this. Speculation is going around. But there's there's another event that happens. It's an ardent wheeled thing that happens during the story of arden wheeled where you come to realize that that the winter queen has a family. I guess is how i would put it. Oh yeah you know. And there's a lot of speculation as to who to she means you know who she talking about and this is a kind of a similar thing it's like there's a lot of speculation on what was the event that crashed the arbiter. And we know. It happened during legion during the expansion. Insurer sting okay well. Espn and this was at bliss. Calm the last time. There was ablaze concert this past year or not this not last month but the year before where ian actually sad at blizzard con that sarah was one of the last souls that made it into artem wheeled. We also know that sock. Did i mean that's in the cinematic so given that it's like okay. You know if those were the last souls that made it into arden wales. It had to be something that happened like right after that. That broke the arbiter. I'm excited to see what's coming in and to see the see because yeah i'm glad to miss something in the campaign i'm thinking did i miss something now. You didn't know it's probably something that happened during legion. Okay and yeah so if you played legion then you probably saw at least what it was. Ooh okay and doing some stuff from chat cap says in the kirin dragged around by the script for our next step. Then we do the the dodgers and reverend wrath greenwich saying all the curium regardless of the foresworn or moss worn. They're all wing human than away. The other dead so like the guy what race you are. When we come back you re become a human which cis. Oh that's true that's true but the thing is that the original the care that we saw were all right. Cool dead reichel and so i think we thought of them as people who were originally because remember the whole the whole thing that was going on in wrath of the lich king or it was a subplot but i mean in wrath of the king. There's this whole idea of female specifically wanting to ascend and they would prove that they were the best warriors and you know with this how you get your your white. Polar bear mountain see have to do these daily class for these women who are aspiring to be here and the idea is that they will go through this and maybe getting some of this has been a while since i've played through this but but they go through this ceremony either white with the lich king or with people that he's put in charge of this process and that's how they become valk here is they. You know they die. They're raised and now they are and of course you see it happening in up card pinnacle which i keep running. Because i want that. God's amount you see it if you're running up pinnacle Swallow sorrow grave is being raised as of al qaeda. I think i think that's the idea. So that's the thing it's like. I thought of all those valk year as maybe not humid but reichel which are the original humans. Yeah and so to me. it wasn't weird for valkyrie to be and it's very obvious that the valk here are a corrupted form of kirin's you know you get ya. It's very obvious that that's that's blizzards. Intent is to show you. The games intent is to show you that valk. Here are some mock corrupted version or gaoler corrupted version of curious because remember when the kieron's are fully ascended. They have not only wings their helmets. Go over there is. Yeah like valk here okay. So now he knows. Some of yeah. I don't think i'd spoiling anything. You're saying that it's just an assumption that i've made val keer kyrie ends you know. And that valk were created by a process of so they're like corrupted kenyans or something you know somehow mov versions of curious and of course now now how is in the mall so this kind of shows that maybe savannah's has been to way before we have that she's known it's been around for a long time in nyc sheetings and going going into the chat room. I i agree with like a raven that that murder people ain't cool dealers doesn't grew. Yeah yeah too much. Cool t pain torture and k is talking about how the lanta thing that they can crack the stormers hymie cinematic but that happened in legion and tapping teller cell souls loss of them offer. Show so definitely happen. Legion and i was talking with With joe hogan and drove a proper good point that what savant was so to get more souls into the ma that she knew it was broken and she was like. I want to get all those those elves for some reason. Well that that's supposedly the rea. The reason why she was like remember in the battle for lord or on where they say my god. She's killing her own. People remain she plagues the whole battlefield. Yeah and they say she's killing your own people. Why would she do that. And the answer shoes trying to send as many souls to the mawes possible on. That's why she was burning taylorsville as well. You know so you know it has to happen sometime. Allegiance there was it was ashkelon is one of the big streamers. I guess who was was saying that. It was solana's lantern that she got from helio or whatever. I don't see that as being the thing that that changed. Because here's the thing originally allegiant you were supposed to play from arizona to storm hyme do mar but you're supposed to work your way from right to left over the map and then they changed it so that you could start anywhere but the idea was that first. You would've done as soon as venue would have done of al shara with tears of a sarah dying and its attendant dungeon raid which involves rescuing. What's his name. Mouskouri that mouth. As i call him and defeating davis and then after that it's high mountain and then it storm high so the thing that again did with smashing solano's lantern would have happened toward the end of quote unquote legion. Okay if i mean toward the end of the original content. Arc of legion. Yeah i guess is what i would say all depends on if they if they kept in that or if they right conduct to be butchered read concept before something that depends on if that if they have their is on tenth well right but i guess that i'm saying is even though they allowed you to level in whatever order you wanted internal sounds i think they still kept canonic. -ly the idea that is sarah ersoy died before again. Smashed the lantern that make sense. Yes still pretty canonical for them. That makes sense. Here's the ultimate thing you could have done versus. Here's what you did. Yeah now there was one guy. I think this was pyro. Manser who thought that it might have been argus dying. That was the thing that fucked the arbiter and he had a pretty good reasoning in there. But i'm no longer on that team. I'm kinda team at cologne at this point at his current at least current as of two days ago which was the last time i watched the video after he posted it. I guess. I think i agree with what he was saying. And chat talk about like different things about going to the mine and bring them a lot of good points. I grenade is catering up some some points about like win. Wins to the mind when she knew about this death. Yeah well remember silvana. S- threw herself off the top of ice cream citadel. Yes i said ice cream ice cream. Sit adele at the end of wrath of the lich king after he's defeated throws herself off the top and there's a whole short story dealing with those not up and you know and people are sort of now assuming that blizzard us hind of massage. That into that being when she met the jailer. Okay because she was bad remember in silvana was unfortunately almost unequivocably bad. You know up to or at least at least very questionably. Good if at all in wrath of the alleged king i mean she you know the whole wrath gate thing was she. Guilty was she. Not what did she know. When did she know at very negative on. You know there was the site the idea of well. Maybe she went straight to the mall and met the jailer at the bargain that she made have had him in mind or something like she might have made a bargain with him then other she died again after that. So maybe that would who knows and saying the story and chronicles. That odin created the halls of valor. Any way to ferry the souls so he forced you to be his first value after giving his eye to the talons lands right. We didn't know about the. I heart until very recently why he had given up his i. I think that's new lower if you will. Yeah but yeah the whole the whole business and chronicle is a and i could be wrong. I i've read chronicle sixty five times. But i forget very easily but i don't know that it mentioned him giving up his eyes so he could keep his eye on the shetlands in chronicle. It might have. I don't know but definitely mentioned the whole thing about how. Yeah how she was the first val care. And that she wasn't willing and blah blah blah. But i guess what i'm saying. Is that valk. Here are based at least on the concept of the curium from bastion. That's all i'm saying. And i just that's mario own theory but it's kiryat valk here either. I mean why would they make it that close and have the look that close then wondering where the foresworn go in with that too. Because that's an interesting well. The foresworn kind of started with with devo right and author of the four things. Start okay you know. Because to throw artists in the maw there might have been some contact there with the jailer saying. Hey you know here he is. You know it might not a bit just as simple as them just hovering above and throwing him down. There was probably some negotiation. Yeah so i mean it seems clear to me that devo son youth or are now working for the jailer some extent and catering a point that i noticed when we were going to reverend of anathemas that people about how the different names of the different dread lords and even mentioned dimitrius nath nothing them and like there's all these things it is interesting to see the creation of things that we've known of these powers. Well here's the thing. I had been hearing the idea. That was a drug lord before the game came out. So i guess i thought that you were supposed to know he was okay because i not know but i mean if you look at sire after is he's got horns. Unlike a lot of other rev andretti's she has horns and he has perfect teeth. Unlike anybody else in that zone but then he's also got hooves but he. He tries to hide them with his boots. Ooh but if you look at him very carefully i've again. This is the section you haven't gotten to yet so i don't mean to spoil it for you but if you look at it very carefully in one of the main scenes in the zone is very obvious he got. He's got who's and like. I said i know. It's probably a spoiler to some degree to go third and others but it's but it's like. I thought everybody knew that i really did because had been talking about it. It probably was coming knowledge. And i probably again. I the reason. I don't do lor podcasts. Sometimes but yeah. There's a reason that i have on. You know thinking on me in a way. Because like i said i had heard all this speculation before the game or you know but while still in beta and i was just like oh i guess this is just something everybody. Oh yeah look who's and then to find out that it was supposed to be a surprise. Not okay now sat on so sorry. I just wrecked up for you. Maybe you're actually a game developer and in a in a game writer and and you work for blizzard and you and you're not telling us did i ever tell you about how star wars was spoiled for me not the first movie but i think it's the second one i don't know if he did. It's where luke finds out the darth vader's his father. I think that's the second like episode. Five yeah yeah then the third one right and that's yeah okay so so. It came out quite a while after episode four. Did i was in high school in episode four and a young high schooler and then episode five came out and i was in college. I was very friendly with a guy who lived in the space special interest house at georgetown so he and i decided to go together wasn't a day i had to be wasn't a day now today. We just went together. Yeah we're on. the bus. Were going toward the theater. He says something to me about darth vader. Being luke's father you could have heard pen drop of a whole bus. Yeah and i'm like and he's on my god. I had seen it. What what an asshole move to do yes really. It was by accident but okay good. Yeah he you know. It was sort of like me with the risk thing with suddenly realizing that. I'd actually spoiled something here. Okay and i'm just like the old boss was just like so since then. I don't mind spoilers all that much because at the time of those i don't know like eighty two or something i think was the year in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. I can't think of anything except rosebud the sled that could have been and of course you know citizen kane was a much older movies so when we assume in one thousand nine hundred eighty two still need to worry about that but it's like in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. I think that was the big thing that darth vader was. Luke's father it was just like. Oh my god. and after having that spoils. it's like these days spoiler. Still bother me. I try to be sensitive to the fact that they bother other people just like after. I had that spoiled for me. You're kidding what's spoiler again to mention a series. I struggle with phantom. I remember re online on read it snip dumbledore and it was like i just picked up this book. And then that's another. That's another one. And by the way i did. Oh okay. I knew i knew okay. I never have finished in the books. I do intend to watch the movies at some point. But i never finishing the books. I trailed off somewhere and number three. I was sober at the i. Don't feel welcome and right now. But i want to thank you for talking with me about though can i today. But it well. It is actually a early quest thing and Rabindra so it's not yeah but You and i are the co host of a podcast translated. And whenever i have concrete on in addition to while i like to get to know you better i mean i know you better only the chattanooga better so since it was your creation that you've graciously allowed to be part of what is translate city. You're doing me a huge favor here but sound transit city for me isn't just a podcast. It's almost brand. It's to stem really lazy about building it. What happened was. When i realized that i was that i was trans. I had a very short period like overnight of utter grief. Because i was leaving everything that i built for myself as a woman specifically behind hysterical sobbing etcetera etcetera. But then after that. Once i accepted it i just felt like i was surrounded by this light and i don't necessarily mean like in a religious sense definitely spiritual but i don't want to attribute it to any religion. I just was like. Oh my god the clarity. All of sudden my entire life started to make sense to me. Trans lucidity is a term that it's it's sort of a synonym for transparency. You know where you can just about see you know through something. Yeah and so. I wanted everyone to have to understand themselves and their identities. The way that i did. Because it's really hard to understand yourself and be honest with yourself. And i think that a lack of that is what causes so much of the pain in the world and so. I wanted everyone to have that kind of feeling of clarity that i suddenly had about myself you know. Of course there's the cute little trans putt in there. Yeah so so. That's the translate city is very little. Putt and how did you decide to bring me on the pockets of the co host. A well it was just a natural thing i had wanted to do more with you and i also knew that you know this idea for the podcast that i had. I just sat on it for a while. Because i didn't wanna do it by myself but the only other person i knew who i really trusted to understand my vision and beyond board with me was my partner chris and while he's a wonderful supportive person who i just don't know how i would even live about. He's not trans. He's very supportive of transpeople. He's just the most positive you could have. But he's not transient. I wanted to co host with another trans person and so it was almost like five seconds after you came out as trans. I think you you were like. I've transfer that because i was like i need to tell you something and i don't i i'm not mail. And here's here's a experiment myself. I call my god. It's like oh my god yes. Okay your guys. I love because i always have loved talking with you and i. I had you on pike as many times. Have on here again because it's been a while going by weekly. It's hard to hard to every guest in there. But you've been someone that's like since the beginning i i've got to see your journey and it it is open my eyes in so many ways and in fact i'm going to real quick. Get very saffy. Rookie comes in the show. But i need to thank you. Stash it that that that the fact that i had you on the spot guest and it was back in the nineteen on episode ninety three. I had done before. But that was episode. Where you shared your experience being trans in and you you were very honest and open there and through all this stuff. You're the first person that i knew in my own circles. Who came to me and said that that that that you're trans and it. I was taken aback. Because i'd never known somebody else directly. Who who who. Who was trans and you helped. You have it in a better light that like i got. I got into new journey. You've helped teach me how to be polite how to how to make sense to the it. You're so automatically accepting. Because i thought there was going to be some hesitation on your part i remember Shamefully might add. When i was just very very very deeply into christianity at this point in my life and someone came out as gay and i still liked the percent and i told them this but i was like but it's really hard for me to accept that lifestyle. I look back at that. I'm just dying now. Because i actually knew. I was queer from a very early age. I was in denial. I just gone through this period of my teens. Where i was heavily into nihil and so you know and so i just tried to word it in a way of you know i love you i accept you but it's hard for me to accept this thing you know and later on we worked it all out. I was like i was a big asshole. I'm groovy now. You know. But at the time i didn't just accept that person and you're immediately just completely accepting of me at least to my face you know. You didn't have the need to tell me that you didn't. You approve or that. You know or that you had issues or anything you didn't you know and and i just felt so good about that conversation and you know i felt completely accepted. I'm going to do that. Because i mean i admit as a as a teen i i i was more vocally and i own that. I'm like i told somebody i own. I was has and eggs. I had been trying to be a lot more open. And when you re i understand it. I admit that but i was like this is you and you are my friend. And i'm gonna accept you as my friend no matter what and thou shalt acceptance and cause came to you i i was like i d about about who i was because i fully gone public with everything. And you were. You were accepting i mean and and i mean you were an inspiration and let me explore who i was but you also opened my eyes to what is to be transient and and all that and i just wonderful. We are journey. That we're on. Yes that's why it's an honor to be on translated because it's it gives me a platform as i'm learning and i'm learning things from things from the people that we've had on it and that's why it's been an honor to be on on another podcast. That's not gaming related per se. But it's about gaming. And i we are gamers. Yeah but it's been something that like it is. It's a podcast that i've learned a lot from and it's helped me become more confident to and who i am and in me confident and where my journey is. I think it's why i can't do it every week. Even though i want to is because of how painful not in a bad way not necessarily but how painful it is to do that podcast. Yeah because we are so and we know that we are anything but perfect. You have that. We have this little expression. Ask privilege no because the privilege to be an ass because first of all we're white we're both solidly middle class fairly well off people absolutely and you know we have privilege coming out our asses so well hopefully not you know physics. Yeah but but you know but it is. It's so painful sometimes to do that podcast. Because it's so humbling to know first of all the ways in which you know. We need to be better people both of us. I think probably more than you. But i really. Oh god sometimes. I just feel like a monster but also just how honest we have to be and knowing that there are people out there who are very non positive to us gets us m. We know that they're listening. And maybe some of them are learning. I hope that's the case learning and also becoming more trans lucid as time goes on but maybe there are some people who it's just hardening the hearts to and how to deal with that in a kind way and i. I want to be the best that i can. And i want to to be a role model like somebody that i know is listening to the show and i don't want to divulge their name to respect the privacy but the fact that they said because of me talking about being nonbinary on this podcast that they had somebody come out to them as binary and they were able to be so accepting to them. And that's the way just like that's that's just so amazing because so amazing. We're not out to turn anybody trans or anything like that. God now we do not have agenda. No there's no we just want people to understand it and respected. That's that's all. And that's even why. That's why i bring on under under this show. This is gaining podcast about. Wow but we're also human beings. Ever since i started francois cast have been amazed to realize there's another human being them talking to the game is what brings us together but what we are in the the. The weird mixture of who makes us is really what this podcast is about the wild podcast. But i wanna to explore the inner workings. That's what i'm talking to you about this podcast on here. I want people to know everybody has it. I think wow could remove its acidity if somebody's realized the fucking person on the other side. What you say to them that you don't know that the ship they're going through some days you don't know what they're struggling with days and you don't know that something that you stay off the cuff what it means. It hurts me. When i heard somebody by by saying something and it's it's why i've tried to be a lot more kind. I've tried. i've tried to realize what is my word saying. It's why i'm trying to drop ablest language for my words because i realize some words i may say to me i can say off the cuff but somebody else. It really strikes deep. Sometimes even when you're when you are differently abled. You can like for instance. I'm sure there are times that i'm like you know. Oh i've been blind. That's not really good to say no you know. Oh i didn't understand is so much better but that's just an example of ablest language that honestly there are times i just don't i don't think i know there are times when i say racist stuff. Same just horrifies me later to to say oh my god i said that i want think of myself as not that person but i i am the person and you know as as an older white person. I'm going to be that person you know so just trying to be kind and trying to be sensitive and trying to present our truths as honestly as vulnerably as hand. You know realizing that they're going to be some people who are just gonna be jerks out there but just taking it just just going with it. I had somebody. I came on on facebook and had somebody say what was probably a joke and i did a kind joke back to them but it was still paying for it because i was like i just shared learning very vulnerable with you on on facebook and you turn around and turn what i who i am into into joke and i. It's it shows the power of language and the power of stuff and and that's why again i want people to just understand. Take time to to listen. And i mean i'm trying to be much more of a listener than i than a talker. This this year in so many ways a turning point was during black. Lives matter when i was was going around that we need to listen and i was like absolutely we need to listen to. I released episode of the podcast saying we need to listen to these voices. We still need to listen to the voices. It's not a trend. It's still happening but this year changed me in a lotta ways. There are times when i say to myself. You know just going back to the whole show. Podcast thing it's like. Oh god i'm another white person with a podcast. That's another reason. I hesitated that. Lack of a co host was was that i said. What right do. I have to be the person sitting there then. I looked at it. And it's like you know what. I have the wherewithal you have a computer. I have a mike this ability to put this out there and to the extent that i can help anybody who's less privileged than i. I'm going to use this platform to do it. I don't know to what extent. I have actually helping anyone who's less privileged than i am. I want to yeah and maybe it can encourage somebody that they can add to the voice out there that that like th. That's why i love. Podcasting is how you can add your voice to it that it's not just because i've got podcasts. You can't make a podcast that right or have people on the podcast or whatever. Yeah i'll tell you if i could get some trans people of color on my podcast really happy. I'm hoping at some point it happens. We've we've had a decent number of guests people who are identify as trans other binary non binary on our podcast But they all have been white and it's again they're all wonderful people. I mean we're all but you know. 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Part2/3:Chris Griffin, Steve Haskin, Rick Eng

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

1:38:54 hr | 2 months ago

Part2/3:Chris Griffin, Steve Haskin, Rick Eng

"The with steve horse racing handicapping interviews. This is with stupid. we're back our neck all an hour and a half to i. I don't know what you do. We saw we split it in. You can't call it our to too far into our to. It's like when you stop wishing people happy new year this is like an unofficial. There's an official designation Chris griffin joining us from sam houston and And one of the one of several of the ovals around the country that was so impacted by the winter storms and the just insane cold for the region. Chris morning morning. It'd be with you. How did how did you make out. Personally you know for for your home and and such you do okay. Yeah i was okay. It was probably thirty. Thirty six hours without without power Didn't have water quite a bit longer but You got through it the the colon so much the thing i mean. Obviously it was cold. I dealt with cold but when you're when you're talking no power and no water situation. Becomes a little bit of different ballgame so it was tough monday and tuesday. Monday was really rapid. I think starting to improve a little bit and then slowly the weather started. Get a little better a little bit of a freezing and You know. I love my dog. My dog never sleeps next to me on that monday. He slept on top of me. So it's great that he was feeling the conditions as well because he was He would not leave my side. So maybe that's a positive out of all of that That stuff but The other positives were back the racing we got through it and try to begin to the horsemen and the people that were working hard. It was it was tough. It was definitely cost but Nobody was was was Had a lack of effort. I mean everybody was trying to do what they could to get things back up and going and we had to cancel last week but We're back at it nice racing this week and we're looking forward to well and last week i did take the opportunity under the under the conditions. we touch base with frank hop and got a status report and You know unfortunately was taking away from you. Know what should have been a real celebratory week and you know with the resumption of the meat. here Will you know we can take those victory laps because of course Handle has been so good that It's affected a person crease. And a reminder and at the same time you're working in to make up for those those races and you can tell by the you know by the twelve race card For instance That you know that's part of the you know it's part of the effort to fill in the gaps that you know that were lost here over the how many cards i think Six six cards. What was that question. How many how many cards. How many cards were lost. We lost one two three four. I mean we We had cancelled earlier but had kind of those issues the prior week. But yeah we. We lost four cars. We lost the entire weekend and lost preview day but didn't lose it. We brought it right back so you know we. We run were running. We ran twelve yesterday. Run at fault today Ten on friday. And then another twelve on saturday and then we'll take a look and see just kind of how entries go Into next week. 'cause we draw week out so we're already right Taking entry for next thursday and so we'll see how many races can still there. Because you know again it's it's such a changing situation just with horses missing a little bit of time on the racetrack and you know trying to make sure that they're they're in race shape and get them back on You know it was. It was four or five days but For them to enter in and find the right spot this time but the boost the purse money helps you know when you get seven thousand and added Dirt purses thousand on the turf then You get somebody bigger deal sizes and wagering opportunity. Well the one of the key wagering elements that we've been discussing since the start of the meat with the space city. Pick five and the opportunity there to you. Know to carry without without a jackpot There is there is also the building jackpot on the high five but for our conversations. We've been more focused on the pick sex and then once you had he cap. Those six races is gives you reason to play the pick five. Pick four as well and This this first card actually got nice. Got some nice play and end up with Eleven thousand way eleven thousand. I think Coming in so yeah. Eleven thousand into today's card and really a little surprised. I guess that. I guess that eleven to one in the nightcap yesterday larry stroup twenty five twenty. I think you look at some of the morning line. Prizes of and there were. There were a lot of mid range crisis. You didn't have any overwhelming favorites. A couple that When texas crossbow scratch sixty five in the morning line. So it's kinda hard to pinpoint kind of we're favouritism with going. That rates Leandra gonzalvo has had a an incredible night last night. For for jockeys and jerry. Call one three. And you just kinda have some of these sources. I thought gray zone was another crisis. mixed in their third davidson's runner went off at around nine to one sorenson aboard. And that one. I think created separation as well The pick five came back over forty thousand dollars so you know somebody did connect On the pick five but just didn't put it together and pick six but the other thing remember. We have an early picnic and a late. Pick six so. The carryover actually starts race number one So those folks that look at fifth plays it starting the lid or right there and race number one when we kick things off before clocks so just keep that in mind and looks like a pretty heavy favorite action in the first leg I think that you could maybe some value in there. I'm not entirely sure it'll carry over after the first early space city pit six is looking at the sequence but you never know whether in the race is the well and i i suppose that The you know the challenging part of the sequence is gonna come with those two maiden specials that that ended the fifth and the sixth. Yeah i do. I actually like a big long shot in that an event Fantastic like i say it's gonna be real tough to handle that first leg so a single and a lot of tickets now. Tastic doesn't win. Then that changes everything pretty significantly but there is a horse in there I think race number race number six. I think it definitely is going to be one of the first time started. It looks like there's a lot of talent in that open maiden especially race and again forty three thousand dollars purse. You're going to see some of these Different barnes commit. You know tom sending a first time starter by spicer hundred thirty thousand dollars. Purchase price seventy two in the morning. Line so An intimate strip runner. They're hundred fifty five thousand for steve athletes. So there's there's definitely some opportunities to Look i started array sick. I'll tell you. What doing reese five lions sexy if you go back and watch that versus replay. The horse didn't run to poorly there during houston racing festival in that main race I know the barn likes this one a little bit and You know you're gonna get fifteen two one in the morning line. I do think rush. The color looks like a nice favorite in there. But i think a beatable favorite as well. alfredo concerns gets back up and and the horses wide ten of broke. Slow got squeezed a little bit. The star then was real wide around the turn but actually closed okay. And then you know if you trust gallup outs and whatnot. The horse galloped. Out real nice as well so I'm gonna go back there for the number. Eleven five sexy. I think offers a ton of value so if you wanted to get some of that separation In the pick six if you can get the eleven home their number five. I think that's an interesting one have nice That group are texas. Bread maidens going. Three quarters there's That six that closes out the first half of the card and that early portion of the pick six both of the kowloon's on the inside the first or that fashion rage and lovely ride. Who's coming back for a second start lindy weight and And reichel berry aboard for. Calhoun both of them. I think have got a looking at siblings. Strength that They've got plenty would recommend them. You mentioned amos with lane. Lasi greatest love and there is the same thing there's There's some pedigrees pedigree strength. The gust of sin the gust of sin. Even the score. Philly is the half to jim on tier. Who was a nice steak. Spare or colt I i'm trying to place that i'm trying to place his name And he was. He didn't debut until he was three But was a nice horse He's got to be yeah. It'd be a six year old. The now but i think he's i think he's gone but That's a that's a sibling. That has got a little bit of of of power. This is i way when you when you end to pick six with two maiden specials You're you're asking. Yeah you're you're inviting trouble Any any other thoughts you mentioned the opener and and the three to five shot so you maybe people turn it into a pick five with their approach and the second third and fourth legs. They all they all have got four. Full scenarios involve texas breads. Go in short that the five thousand nine hundred two lifetime than twenty-five nine to philly in mayors Turf sprinting and then back on the main for three year old fillies going five and a half twenty-five non too so you do. Have you know real form to go on with that. Second third and fourth leg. Yeah there's no question and you know when aimed to sending runners over you've pretty much got to take a look at them and include them so we're number four reason why another one that stands out On a stand off the pages a little bit. How is another favourite coming in from the west coast. That i felt like was actually a little bit. Beatable here in the spot I like mom path. But i think you could spread a little bit race number three and race number two silver. Nathan's does look really tough. I mean on the honor roll is is nine to five in the morning line should probably go off favorite just because it seems like the numbers have been consistent enough to win but That's going to be a short price against Horse like silver aces has every right to improve so You know if you get around some pathak and you single silver. Nathan's or something like that. I think i think you've got some value in there. I think you go. You know favorite favorite in the first two legs You know are. Are you really Attacking this pick six and really trying to make a score And maybe you just have to do that. Maybe that's just kind of the way that it has to work but it's it's hard for me to get away from austin gusts the senate a an eight horse field where it just seems like. He's going to have a runner. That has every right to improve and a jockey. That's getting bored that he has connected. Well with one of the you'll argus up for him Good things have happened and And then you also notice the can solve. This is on mom's half Elliott's actually serving a few days so he got some days and so that's why he's not listed on These and horses. If anybody out there is wondering He will be writing the stakes though on saturday during texas preview day because that wasn't redrawn He was given permission to ride in the state on saturday. But just a little bit there folks that are wondering about were steward elliott. that's that's what he's doing right. Now he mentioned gonna call. This woman Tom herman wanted to remind Five winners for calvinists yesterday. Five winners i mean. The guy was just an absolute known and he wasn't doing it on four five shots. Either i mean he had. He had prices the The mid range. He would just sit in the right trip. You just see you know in our list. The listening audience. The betting hint knows when a jockey is just kinda feeling it to make all the right decisions and he just really was jack. Advantage was probably the best example of that. It looked like an interesting race and he just got to the front. He slowed it down. He kind of said you know. Let me back off the pace everybody kind of bunched up in behind. And somehow he found enough to to get that horse's nose down right there at the wire You know bandit swanson had a ton of trouble in that race it's probably the best But leandra was just all the right buttons last night and things were going well and you could be a chair. Caldwell was giving him some Some real nice encouragement when he was coming back to the winner's circle. They want three together last night but again just making the right decisions putting the horses in the right spot and just was was was on fire last night. You just couldn't couldn't contain him and When you win five it's always got to be a good feeling for the agent was happy. And the connections and Leandro he might have weekend again. He gets on more than horses throughout this week. It's funny at saratoga. Over the years we had the barbecue and my partner berry You know they'll put a bat in but he's not he's not following things closely and john velazquez won. I think three of the first four one one day at at saratoga. And i think barry her dirk and say that you know that that's the third win of the day for you know for johnny v in the first four and and so very said to me he said always said you always bet always better streak and he said how many more does johnny have. I said he's got four more amounts he goes. Okay said let's go batum so very basically he didn't parley but he he he put. I don't even know what he put. Twenty dining twenty down to win on on the rest of janis mounts and johnny ended up winning three more. And i that that's always stayed with me and there there was There was also today. Saratoga where ramon one one sex and when you see when you see somebody go on those kinds of streaks. Get get an inkling early go ahead go ahead and and and battling a funny phenomenon. Yeah always it's not somebody that comes to the race track often. You know they probably look at you. And they're like this is easy. You know you back easy game out. These numbers and all i think in the streaky rider. And i'm winning three out of four. I mean this is. This is an easy game exact over that makes them come back though and then of course you know. There's so many rules like that when it comes to you. Bring a date to the racetrack. Whatever whatever she whatever she wants to bet don't don't try to talk her out of it and particularly her. I bet she says. I want i want that one. I want the four. You just just go bet it. Because it's gonna win period. I it's like a at some sort of cosmic force. I don't don't ask me explain it but it's we've all we've all done so we've all experienced that before we talk about the stakes card chris chris griffin with us from sam houston anything else on the weight of the card. That stands out to you quinnell. I think At the right day. That'd be looking at friday great. I'm looking at fridays to here. Yeah let me Let me pull this up. Quinnell was she's in. That's in the the ninth tomorrow. Okay yeah quintanilla. In the night tomorrow is an absolute stand up for me. I feel like in that rate There's just not a lot of feed. Is kind of iraq right around the same class level and i felt like when you're looking for a horse that you can pinpoint feel like in a bigger field like that that you can kindest thing allowed and take a look at and feel a real strong feeling on the horse The one. I think that there's not a lot of speed in the race. I think it looks like there's going to be quite a few. They're gonna pay. I think he's gonna put this one in the right spot. Yeah dropping from fifteen three down five thousand three. So you know there's did finish behind salacious to you but i think you'll get all that four to one i think when l. is going to be set up for a big effort So that'll be tomorrow. Yeah that's the. That's one that i'd be looking at their race. Number nine The car tonight. Who's taking a look at it here. there's So many nights races ka lesson is going to be a short price there and rate ten. But if you go back and watch replays when this horse went to two turns to three year old filly by super saver. She looked like she wanted every. Bit of the turn She's a big philly. she's she's not tiny and Danny finally got her around to turns and she just really relative She's nine to five in the morning or eight five in the morning. Line so You know morning winemaker but believes her quite a bit as well Based on that last number. I guess maybe you kinda start thinking. Is she going to kind of bounce. A little bit off that effort catholic got two runners towards the outside Maybe that's an interesting one. But i think cholesterol standout Not a big crisis. you know. Eight to five but One that i think will be very tough there in the late sequence and you'd have to see maybe maybe the pixel carryover and goes into that lake. Pick remember the carryovers. Just continue to roll over so It's not a jackpot situation But if there is a carryover just goes right into the next sequence so if you missed early space city picks and there's carryover goes right into the late because we got call raises now. It's been a lot of fun and You know the the increment makes it interesting. The fifty cents it makes it tricky to to build tickets. And that's why we that's why we're getting the carryovers and of course with the double card. There's no There's no lynch pin race. That kills you. You know the races that overlap on both sides on smaller slate. So it's the first through this you know six and then the seventh through the twelfth. So it's kind of a unique thing for a few days here it is. You've got that here the next two days and then On saturday we go back to ten races on friday nights Looks like we drew ten races for wednesday. So yeah when you see those twelve raise cards now. Now we know kind of what we'll be looking at and and a lot of handicappers trae styles. He was my co host on. Sharpy time he does not like the overlap Ten hours and pick five like you say you can get you can can kind of get burned on both tickets Depending on some of those legs. So yeah it's nice to separate them and Opera -tunities people even ask about a middle pick four. I'll have to talk to frank. Coffin the racing office about that. Because if you get twelve graces you could. Do you could actually for sequences. But they've got plenty on their plate and they've given us plenty of wagering opportunities but We'll see maybe we can get one more. Never know well. Let's talk a few minutes. Before we go about saturday's card and the opportunity to I'll probably get a couple of ideas from nick tomorrow as well on friday but Things start steak sequence that Was the late The first of them starts in race sex the to out designer and then goes through. What the burnett and the miss bourbon that The the blue bonnet. What i call it called bourbon different different. Different track different racetrack. The h. down ahead the terror as well as the gyms orbit the walk us through a little bit some ideas on the stakes. Yeah so number. Six kicked it off to the to on star the north if you see her in the flash she doesn't impress us philly to look at She looks like she's got room to grow. She is Three her last three and she's got so many options. Because this is a part of the texas dalian's theory so even though she's a minnesota bread She still eligible to run in this race because she by sire. The texas talent the hunk so she's able to win some favorites races there minnesota and then she was also able to come over here For the texas stallion theories and she's also win here so she's got so many Opportunities for francisco bravo. She did absolutely nothing wrong. Broken the rail There in the tech talent that seventy five thousand. She's coming right back here. I just think she looked tough. I think you're gonna have to see a lot of improvement from Any one of these runner here to catch her because she's already pretty much handled All of them except for a lot of blame So they're really gonna have to pick it up she's gonna be price. He looks extremely tough. I mean if there is a favorite that you're really gonna kinda hold it on. I think she's the one the blue bonnet wide open turf race. You know at the mile. I think there's some bars that are taking a shot. She's our fastest. Comes back in there from class. Then points you so classy But her hasn't been exactly the same especially against some of the other runners and she's probably actually going to be a short price and horses. That have finished in front of her on the turks. So i i think i think that's an interesting one to kind of take a look at watcher on the board because i i think i think there's going to be money. That goes her. Wish four to one in the morning line. I'm playing against her. Actually like mr perfect. I think she than you know. Five or seven at the distance. She really loves her And you know again another shipper. That's coming in. That has been kind of around the around the country. But i think she fits in the right spot H town looks like Could be interesting to see. Where can i. Bob decides to go but direct is going to be very tough in their stores. Elliott you there. Steve asmussen and Or just a horse that has been Run through the texas ranks taper at ranks and really made a nice career in the living. Doing that reason. I really wanted to john doe But i'm gonna give credit for one more shot. I think that the houston is probably One of those nice classy races that we're seeing at a mile and sixteen grass. I'm gonna give you one more. I think he looked good. I went over to his barn. I took a look at their return for trainer. Alain dupay and He talked about the horse and felt like you know given the horse some time off and the horse wasn't wasn't really doing too well there at remington park and had that comeback race and he felt like the horse got a lot out of it. He says six year old gelding now Of the year you know texas bred horse of the year. So it's it's interesting to point out but somewhat song is is definitely the now or i don't like the price i think some of it's going to be a real short christ that race and read it torey is the ready tori of of old At four one offers more value in that rate so from wagering standpoint. I'll go in that direction. John doe though john doe and fifteen. Two one is very enticing. I i i think i'm not sure what happened. Last time he was he was odds on and he just he did not run very well. but i think he's a better racehorse that i think that's one to keep an eye on because he does have some late kick on the turf. I think in this little bit bigger field size. I think kind of things can set up. He's tackling some horses though that are multiple winter so that's gonna be his His biggest challenge in that race. But he's got shot and then closing things out there in orbit. I'm gonna play against carbon striker. I actually like island sun. I think islands tunnel improve Op event that goes back to trainer. Steve asan And stood elliott aboard. Pixel one go for that. Carbon striker is gonna have a different trip. He goes to the rail this time. He was outside last time in canada. See all the inside and just clear off. I'm not sure he same trip here. He's going to have to really send from the rail but He does look tough. But i'm gonna play again. I just sent A tax to Bret calhoun because i'm curious what he's gonna do which race he's going with With he's a suitor whether he's going to try to the grass He i think he's interesting and coming back against the texas bread company off. The open performance came back in one yesterday. I mean good scout drew up one by the the form of of that allows that six and a half comes back strong. So you know maybe breakout who lockers that and says will give you know one pretty easy there you know who knows but Yeah look strong. Ninety shame robbie. I like the post Probably got a lot out of that and got the behind a horse. That was the runaway winner. La so maybe we. Maybe we talked ourselves right into it if that goes in the In h down seventy five thousand seven furlough well and breadth. Just saying interesting. He's saying they're kind of watching the weather and i hadn't thought about this but Saturday any chance of if breaths if brett's concerned about it that That can gives you an indication that you know. He thinks it could come off the town. Continue i'm gonna change my middle name to weather. I think with but Yeah so we there is some rain. There's a little bit of rain in the forecast. I think into this afternoon but it keeps saying about fifty percent forty percents As far as tomorrow again showing a little bit of rain in the morning around six. Am to about ten am eleven am. We don't run until six forty five at night So it's really gonna probably depend on the rain from friday morning the end of friday morning alan long. That's gonna continue into friday. Evening is saturday. Actually let's clear and it looks like some rain comes back on sunday so maybe we get a little bit of a window in there on saturday for the rain to clear out. But it's a fair assessment. I think Keep an eye on. The weather is Well we gotta do these days and so if it does rain we'll see but Of course run on. Yesterday was firm. Yesterday was the tyrrell zero feats and i would imagine that we will be good to go and Depending on the conditions it depends on how much rainfall to But right now it's clear clear skies and we'll just have to kinda take a wait and see approach. I'm sure trainers are doing like you. Just texted right now to find out so i appreciate Appreciate the the quick turnaround from brett. And i i also you know it's funny when you see your name and of course Colin brother fans of Oh brother where art thou are smiling with the line. He's a suitor very cool. And and view and opportunity. How can you play around much on the mic with With those though the suitor winter circle. He's got to come back with a bonafides. You gotta start you gotta tell you bonafide in there. The turnaround time wasn't impressive. Breakfast rights there live like that. That's one of our fun. Little whenever i i it drives me nuts. Actually the these cross the places that allow The state cross entries. It's a little trouble with this. The where where we the other day at fairgrounds i. It was captivating mood. Who came up earlier with with with chris block. You know sometimes when you make a first pass handicapping and there's horses crossing you sort of say are come back to them when i know where they're running out and that then then they then the decisions made and you already sort of committed mentally to something else in the race and the horse that you kind of glossed over ends up running well in your like i completely left You know i. The cow was out of the barn for me. So yeah. I mean that's fair. I think that the assessment. I think it's a fair argument to say that you want to keep an eye on the weather as well but You know lender an absolute downpour here over the next forty eight hours. I mean i it will be We're going to be pretty pretty good to go. If if there's a little bit of moisture and whatnot can handle that track. Been working on the track after last week. Just kind of letting the the track settle and and get through that Know they've been hard at work at it. And i think a little bit of rain a little bit fun you know that that would be okay to to kind of let things grow and get back to normal so it is fairly normal houston weather now. Though it's it's nice and humid outside and we are not dealing with those frigid temps right now. That's for sure The craziest thing ever let me just was unbelievable. Mazing with from we appreciate everybody reaching out. It was very kind of everybody to follow along and it was it was it was definitely a struggle there for a couple of days so great to have the at sam houston race park back on the menu and back rolling into This afternoon five zero two. I post Eleven thousand dollar pick-6 carryover in the space city and if nobody negotiates the first the sex it'll spin into the second six and then of course The texas preview. Night card on saturday chris. I appreciate it and we'll We'll talk next week. Always pleasure to be much and we'll talk soon. Good luck with where you got it. You know and and i and just as we're getting done with With chris Because i had calhoun on the line. So i figured all right let me ask a couple of other things he I said i that. I or looks interesting in the sixth race today and he and he said he's working great or she is fashion rage. He said he's he's not happy about the having run from the rail. So the she she the the two of those horses the six to one fashion rage and The one lovely ride. They both kind of kind of caught my eye. Just looking at non on sibling strength. And i look on third graph and you you look at siblings and how fast they were. That's really all you have to go on. I mean you know first time starter. Stats and trainer first and second start stats but the serbs and the dam and they'll give you an indication So that's what calm. I don't have the page in front of me right now but I i may have to may have to have to swing at the action on. Tonight's guard today. Sam houston five zero two eastern time gets things started. Steve haskins and standing by. And i'm sure. Steve has been digging in on The fountain of youth field and we say good morning. Good morning good morning. I'm digging in this. This is a good digging in weekend and next weekend will be bigger digging in weekend. So i've got my shovel out after off week last week. Last week is the annual intimation and nothing happens. And i've run out of things to say something better happened in these races. Have something to write about because something. There's not much you can say about these choices. You have to six weeks. Well there there were there. Were at least a even before saturday. Before the southwest and the fountain which we'll talk about momentarily there were two morse's to at least mention and Some thoughts on on the japanese winner Because certainly has a pedigree that that could translate in north america every every year. We always see some japanese horse. Are we look at it and we we latch onto. Say this could be the one you know. Of course it never is so with that. Said i will say la peruse could be the right. I mean if you. I mean if you look at his not even so much less race but even the race before this but what i really like about this forgetting about his pedigree pedigree obviously fantastic each break grandson of sunday silence and his female family is class and stamina american breathing. So getting a you know. Forget the fact that he's racing in japan. I mean he's got american. Blood will throw them walk. I don't just mean american but really good classy american blood with top class sires and dams all over the place but with that said what i like about this horse. A lot is his turn. He's got a huge foot In his last start you know. He's won both ways left-handed handed in his previous start. I mean he's just absolutely exploded in the stretch. I mean he just came from nowhere and she blue by horse and so quickly so he's a all right. Well we don't know. Obviously i don't know what he's beating over there. I love the way did it. I love his action. I like everything about him. So we'll see what he does in his highest and stakes the big field. And i mean he just took himself right out of the race. I thought he had no shot to win that race. He was so far back. And yeah you stuck behind horses down on the inside. And he was this way way back. And then when they straightened to the stretch You know he just split. Horses came up the inside and again showed that that turn of foot. And i didn't think he was going to get up and catch the origin front and he just he just poured it on at the end and got up to win and i thought it was very Was very impressive. I mean you can only go so far. You know as far as being impressed with the because you don't know what he's speeding and you don't know anything about him. You always train or you don't know he's chocolate. You don't know anything some going to by pedigree and it's going strictly by visual and on both counts. He looks like he could be legitimate if everything works out and he managed to come. You don't want to do high in japanese horse and they say when i coming or a lot of times he goes to look good and then he goes into the next. You know qualifying. Derby ration- doesn't look very good but i don't expect it destroys was Him get a little bit closer to the pace but you do. You gotta like turn the foot and you gotta like his pedigree so with that said could be interesting to watch. I thought so too And i was. I knew you have Some thoughts about some thoughts on yesterday and The latest into mischief to consider a soup and sandwich. Steve i think as you might be bringing that horse up The one thing is that. I've always set. You know i've i've always maintained. You know looking back you know as an old fogy then. I am that one these days. We're going to get a horse when derby the old school way. Give the private stable All class and i thought we would with win win win. I really did. I really thought that was gonna be the one We're talking about obviously mrs weber Who is on the The hall of fame all the same Committee with me. And i just love on the committee every time somebody mentions you know. A horse makes the case for a horse here. We times in with the exact same words. I agree she finds the good in everybody which i love but This horse i. I don't think we've seen anywhere near the tip of the iceberg source. I don't know what the torch can become but for him to win both of his races the way he did. This was the so green. He does like everything wrong. he's you know he's he's looks around constantly. he's always looking everywhere he shies at every little thing. I mean i in less right. He just took up after the start when another just started to drift in front of and this is three horsfield managed to get himself boxing but he just throws his head up in the air and and takes up. He's always looking around. He's always looking in into the Into the grandstands after the race. He's looking into the infield. Jackie kennedy and get him to turn around because he's always busy looking around His first start he he he. He didn't change leads until like thirty yards to the wire he just got stuck on his left lied and he's just all over the place and it's let's start. He doesn't change leads until inside the poll. Then he just props ducks to the inside. Jumps back to his left lied and in two strategies back on his right lead. And i'm saying. I mean like so green and yet he looks so good because he sits back and when he takes the lead. He's like bursts of lead on his own. I mean you watch the horses near even though he you watch the other horses in the race and you know they're under a rip already under turn and jock. You know with the resort tease. But i mean did you sit on them. They don't even move next thing you know. He's got a three link leads. So you know i just. I just think he's got tremendous ability and he hasn't put he hasn't even come close to putting it all together yet. What is what's matures. I don't know how good it could be fascinating ores since very fascinating to watch. He's one of the most interesting voices if anybody gets a chance to watch his first two races by the way especially watch the head on and and And and even the pan shots but he he just like his. I keep repeating. He's so totally green. You just does everything wrong and keeps looking good doing it. Y'all win so he wins up by himself. he's no time jock hits some. Just keep keep his mind on the race. 'cause you just totally lose focus on things. That's that's my take on it. I don't know I don't know how was connections Feel about it but Sector had texted the marquette. She but i didn't hear back from But can't listen you can't you can't not. You can't competitively into mischief. Every time i see a horse. And i said wow that looks good and immediately go to the pedigree of course intimacy else. No i mean everywhere. There's breeding fascinating pedigree to off about to stop the music. People are gonna look and say something music who you know. That name sounds familiar. I mean you like green tree mrs weber. Who's old school. you know. Just like the old fashioned sportsman on. The horse's female family is all green tree. So you got the old-fashioned you'll sportsman On the female side but Stop the music. Music is the sire of temperate sales jockey club gold cup winner and obviously you're traveling belmont winner so all stamina and septa music came along. The same crop is secretary and forego and spent his entire crop and his entire campaign chasing both those horses in fact he finished second forego champagne he actually got. Put up Shoes the secretary and champagne and got to put up i. He actually beat secretary under disqualification but he was second to belmont. Thirty seconds the laurel futurity. He was he actually finished ahead and forego in miles it was second third but he was second to forego in in several stakes third to fork owner and other race the brooklyn i mean. He spent his whole career chasing those horses. But you know you don't hear too much about him to about stop. The music is that he lived in just thirty five. Well so so. I saw everything everything about this horse absolutely fascinating. I'm totally intrigued. With this horse. completely. Get mrs weber. Let me know while it's funny. You say scoop Because scoop figures into this conversation. And that's one of the one of the fun things the dams the basically the second dam. Here scoop There there's some fun things that right away you talk about the the family. That's a that's a tackle the gym up red red good filling and well and one of the one of the names out of this to that. I hope we get a chance. Know some people will either write about your a candidate. The late gene silio. Who who trained scoop and was a you know especially with arlington in the news was a long time chicago leading trainer. And whose name you just don't see and in fact Crafty oak he trained You know the the dam of a giant oak if i ask Ask chris Next time we get chris blocks spin on twice already this year. We may have to get chris blocking on At some point he could tell you about Remember the oakwood. A big gorgeous horsey was the damn. Crafty oak was a was a gene silio training but scoop Horse she made three hundred thousand she won. She won things like The indiana breeders cup folks Remember filling she won the national jockey. Club folks at sportsman's park about that gotta love that Won the flawlessly at arlington as well and No no grade ones She tried the fairgrounds oaks at the three and was off the board. That was Real cosies when actually as it happens. All i know is that i look at his proper forces. You know. this is a lot of good voices you know. There's there's nobody can really grasp onto you. Wanna see what he can do right now because right now. A lot of them still unproven I think there's good depth through it. But i don't know how much quality there is at the very top greatest. Looks like he could be You know he could be obviously when the derby favorites in there. I think he might be up against it a little bit out to us. But we'll say we'll find out about essential quality and after that really really don't know we're dealing life is good. I think is could be of total freak. He every time. I watch sources work i said. Oh my god i have not seen moved him since american farrell really just like to the most perfect course just absolute talk about poetry in motion. Oh my god is works. Incredible so after those three. Yeah you look keep me in mind that you can't even them they gotta wait. Wait eight weeks from his. From the way we supposed to run to run now in rebel. I mean he his whole his whole scheduled totally screwed up. You know couldn't run. Couldn't train them for all those weeks. Ms magnus the workouts. You miss scallops. Couldn't do anything with them. So i commented last week. I said i don't know what's going to happen with. You can't go into this race with no training at all. You looking like cattle river. Who was the other really good three-year-old stable there. And the first thing he did was just skedaddle. Out of and and you know went to brad cox born at fairgrounds and work fifty nine and three. So he was able to do that and the other southwest. Tortures there's already stable fairgrounds so he's stuck at At oaklawn and and he had absolutely nothing to do with them. I mean he had no choice but to wait so that we've got to wait another four weeks who rebel and this was ready to run three three weeks ago. He was working bullets at oaklawn. They gotta keep going like you were planning so you take it easy you. You're gradually work up to your start. You wanna make you debut in the rebel. But that wasn't the plan that he was ready to run a over a month ago. So i don't know what these horses the horses are solid. But they don't blow you a mandolin. Looks like a really good horse. But i don't know how good he he's not the three horses or on the wire together and every race between him midnight bourbon and proxy. So it's hard to separate them. I'm just looking for somebody. That's just really really interesting and fascinating and and this is this. Is that horse. I just I just. I just love watching run. Because i just know what the potential is. We've come even close sing it well. Let's you mentioned Greatest honor and a couple of other. Let's turn our attention with the with those two You know non immediate. Let's talk about The southwest and the fountain of youth star with the found steve. Okay well the one thing. I'll say about both ways by the way. That is a very good chance that both races are going to be one wire by signing complete sort of picture upside down. Because i'm not gonna know what to do then. Because i don't think they're going to be are like dub yours so you know if if if that's happens if during the clock winds wire-to-wire jackie's warrior wins way to wire. Say well where are we now. I mean i don't know we do. We take that a step forward to be derby-winner there I don't know so it's both races are kind of tricky but during the clock tours the rail which is gonna obviously help him with his speed and the to meet the keynote racist. Where the prime factor. Who's right outside of them. It's gonna run with them you know. He's only the horse with sprint speed. He went forty five and one just like during the clock did He went forty five and one is. I started drink. Lachlan forty five one in the In swell so they both have sprint speed. And you know. Prime factor got that to turn rate. You can happen. By the way. When a brilliant i out maiden winner is thrown into a stakes to turn he he. He was rubber-legged by the time. You hit the quarter pole and he got got beat badly but greatest honor. Buddy obviously needed the race. He's got that race in them now and the question is what do you do. If you're gonna ride him like a derby horse or are you gonna ride to try and win this race and off drain the clock and not let him get a five length lead which he could easily do in this race breaking from the rail. So that's the key right there. The qb the prime factor. And you know horse karen keno who showed speed in holy bull. You know. see if he goes up there as well. I just don't know if he's uh if he's going to go out there and kill them but lee at least tried to kill him. You know of course l. cumin book go horses so i don't think he's gonna wanna see both go out there and go eyeball to eyeball so that'll be interesting so with and then if you're looking if you look at the top two horses okay if you look at the clock and prime factor if they do go out there the horse is going to be sitting right behind him is fire at will and again. We say well okay. Well he's never run on a fast dirt track we you wonder slop and people can see pedigree and say you know declaration of war out of kitten's joy mayor it's all. It's all grants federal grants. One thing is is that people forget about declaration of war. Is that when you think of the the breeders cup that mutual macho man. One you you. And when he held off we'll take charge to win by a nose. That's what people think about. Dinner realized that ahead back was declaration of war making his dirt debut. We've got beat ahead. And in those in the breeders cup classic and his first two starts of his life he actually one in france on a synthetic surface get never run undergrads and then they sent him to united states. Look like they sent him to talk for joe allen to talk pletcher like he was going to be on a triple crown campaign and he actually worked at palmettos on dirt and then he sold to cool more nations. Back to aiden o'brien and he became. You know top one real got so the reason why. I can't handle the dirt. He's been working steadily on it so he's gonna be dangerous in here i think he's a really nice source but he's gonna be he's gonna make the first move. That's why i look great on and around saying you know what if he's closing in this race because he's coming off a race where he made some huge moves on thorough graph You know he ran fast. Times ran a one on third graph. And so i don't i don't mind him like pairing up that number or even regressing a little bit or so so if greatest honor is closing in this race and closed for second or even third. I'll be happy with that. 'cause you know what you don't do anything in this race. You still got the florida derby to run and you don't want to do too much interest rates coming off as big as he did in the holy bull so it would not It would not hurt me one way or the other is if he If he doesn't win so anyway. I don't know anybody like it here. Well i haven't allied really didn't look at it much. I mean other than just a survey the group. So i'll do some work tonight. Well yeah like. I said we'll see it's interesting Interesting horses here. But you know i i again i don. I don't know how good i don't know. How good tarantino is left was his first start on the under you got i. I'm gelding in here. Who claimed his last start news that the to tac toe. But you should be a top forces near the top forwards. Look like they've standouts agreed agreed to give the keys the clock. He's got a five point. Lead you know he's gonna be very tough to keep going to be is going to be fine fact if he goes with them. Shift over steve. And let's take a look at south west and I was. I was a little surprised that there that I suppose with the risen star just a couple of weeks away and and more points and money Not that seven fifty wasn't enough money to be involved in I was a little. It was enough to attract baffert baptist. Seven hundred fifty thousand dollar races at oaklawn. Golbright not again. It shows you. I said before. There was no three roles in oakland is a lot of horses. Were pointing for oakland races. But st louis keep me in mind with stable there and the caddo river we stable there and he left so really nobody left there and everything got messed up with this race and like you said you know. You had the risen star list week. I wanna wish they had run into. The risen. star was keeping in mind generation to him. But you know. I mean listen this race. I don't know the predicting rain right. So we might get an off track which you're gonna you know after all is waiting. You wind up still not knowing anything. But i mean who's gonna khakis warrior. He goes to the front. I'm just nobody ride with them. It's true the only ones that kills any any another one called speed at saf is day. But that's not that's you know that's really keep speed. He's not really a front runner. We crawled on lead at oakland on his last start. But i'm jacky warrior. He's he must be busted out of his skin right now waiting for this race. You know people forget that you know he had. He had back to back. Bullet works. you know back in early february pointing for this race. Is you know just basically slow them down a little bit go into this race but i mean it just is anywhere near the horse. We saw in the champagne. I don't know. I don't know it was going to be anywhere near so again. Since the quality isn't that if jackie's really gets out there and opens a big lead and sets in controls the race as a central quality. One second to him. That's fine. I just wanna see how he makes the transition from two to three and not looking for anything she trim just just wanna see Just wanna see how he handles it. He's been working very sharp at fairground. She's been working steady five furlongs and sets and six and works but he hasn't worked anything under five furlongs in in a long time. So you know breaking from the rails get into trouble and sits back and cheque's warriors steals steals it. Nothing you can do about it. The other horses go. I don again spielberg baffert. Easy could worse. But he's never he was never a top three but he's he's a good solid awards and he'll he'll win and sheriff races but i. I don't know how seriously you take him in here. I mean can you win. I i get so but i love him in here. He's he's he's not fast You know I one one kind of interesting horse. And the only 'cause i don't think the trainer You look at santa cruz. And she was like a everybody loved him in the risen star. I wasn't i wasn't that crazy about going in there and he didn't do anything but you look at his three races at churchill downs and he's like a totally different horse. Two races at fairgrounds granted trickle down to roll maiden races and were all stakes races figure. Well maybe just maybe just not good. Or maybe he just doesn't like fairgrounds which is possible and the fact that the tormo is running back in two weeks of the risen star leads me to believe that he feels like he just didn't do any running. You just didn't handle the racetrack and why not bring him to a new race tracks. See how he handles this. So it's kinda interesting. We looked like he was gonna whose voice it was developing. You know finish third in his first start in second then he broke his maiden so we have. We have no idea how good the sources iffy indeed hated fairgrounds which is possible. someone is just. Don't like fairgrounds. You know and then if it does come up money got a horse. This woodhouse again. I have no clue how good he is it. All he's only run twice broke has made it remington park and he ran a good race. She was you know type finished third in the mud that oaklawn last time out in her allowance race. You know very very deep deep racetrack. But you know he's he's not he's not going to be too was like jackie's warrior in central quality. You know or or spielberg but again. There's not much that's here. i mean to me. It's jackie's warrior an essential quoting. Those are the those are the two i. I don't see anybody else in here. i am. i'm excited for cr trout. To to run woodhouse in this spot and that damn that magical dream. She was an unraced She was an unraced. Filly that's a sister to dream rush. i mean he could be a nice voice. I just don't know if you re ready for these kind of courses that's That's the thing. Let that beat. Twilight blue is a good horse. So we'll see he's the kind of voice you know if he picks up a piece of it here you know then you gotta take them sugar spikes down so again. I don't know probably wants to go. The question is with which would houses is named after somebody named that's true. that's true. The sam anderson the owner. That's a good question Yeah so it depends on which way you looking which sport you're looking at here. That's funny but You know again. I just wanna see since equality and listen. I wanted to check. He's william looks like a derby awards. I actually i ask. you didn't mind. Is racing to bridge juvenile. Ran hard on the ring again. That pace he ran right exactly so lot of people. Just knock them. The main thing is that you know he. He showed that a horse could get run them out could outrun him but the horse it did run them actually was a rabbit. Put in there strictly to kill him and the rabbit after you didn't but the rabbit was put in there to kill him for. Keep me in mind to set it up for keep me in mind and i'm just you know twenty two to forty five and one and he couldn't get the lead and you know once he did or resolve you could get him to try and settle and it was good that he did settle in there and he hung in there and the stretch. I mean like you know to sixteenth policy was right there and he got tired late but he's only got between a quarter lengths. All things considered so. I'm curious what happens here. You gotta go to lead with them even though you wanna raise them. If you're looking at derby speed like this you gotta take advantage of it. I mean you can't just sit back and sit behind him slow pace a so. So i've got gotta think that they're gonna work. They're gonna go especially if it comes up off track. There's gotta go They've gotta go to the lead was him and like. I said his racing. The champagne was just spectacular. I thought even as hopeful he just he just runs vast. He's looking at times in their one. Nine three in saratoga special twenty one in one in the hopeful even the thirty five and two. That wasn't a very fast track to the champagne wins going away. Featuring a reinvestment risk and midnight permanent. Beat good horses in there So the whole key is the is the to turns to see how see how he handles it. But i'd love to see him look like a derby horse again mcclain's music you always think of speed speed speed but he he did soccer preakness winner so You just don't know it'll be interesting to see how how runs i. I would just hate to see both those horses him and during the clock. Just go out to the lead. And look like just splinters. Just outrun run their feels on the front end. And then you still in the dark as far as the derby saying well. I don't know you know. I don't know where to destroy. Go for the derby. Got to start looking at how the other runners up did see how essential quality and greatest on how they looked. So it's it's it's it'll be interesting. It'll be interesting what happens. And then i'll set it up for Next week when you got three big races there's also there's also an allowance race that everybody should look at this tomorrow at at gulfstream and you're there are several voices in a very interesting one of them was divorced that i've had on top my top in my top twelve Until this last start known agenda. What was a very high on who actually beat greatest honor in a tremendous tremendous script. Drive going amount eighth at ecuador's and then we ran the ramps and he was third nine links in the slot but he actually detested the slot. Had mentioned that. Johnny whipping him on the backstretch. You he he just couldn't handle it for some strange reason is less starting to sam. Davis just took himself out of the race. He's running in the back of the pack. Like ten links off the page ranked tenth in a twelve field. So what the heck is this. And then he decided to run in the last days of a mile makes like eight lengths or so unless eighth of a mile and gets four lengths so pledges pulling out all stops here putting blinkers on giving them lasix. Thank you got four horses interest rates that are running on lasix for the first time which brings up a very interesting dilemma for this year's derby trail All these horses data racing the racing. Big without lasix you know. Let's say known agenda wins. This race was was because it was because of the blinkers 'cause next race. He's gonna obviously go like in the florida derby or something if he wins this race and how is he gonna do coming off of lakes said that about several horses how is it. How are they gonna do coming off of late. You know the great one zoro's got lazic by fourteen links. How's he gonna do coming off of lasix you just. You just don't know that's the dilemma. This year everybody in this race here is going on lays because they want to win this race. Then they'll worry about coming off as excuse afterwards pledges other horse amount who was very impressive. Breaking his maiden I thought it'd be a really good horse. And he was eased in his last start and he looked terrible. He quarter paul he was he was ready being pulled up. Now he goes on lasix. So does the possibility breaks haven't trying to find out one way or the other but he looks like he might have definitely blood in that race. So i don't know expect here. Let's say this comes back and wins again with laze. And if he did lead the second start well then what happens. What happens when you put them in a stakes race. Coming back off lays again. Lot of question marks this year with solar slates. It's back and forth and you know you you know you point you gotta run without delays and But these words is definitely Definitely worth keep an eye on to see how see how they run. Kenny mcpeek horse. A one is less. Start back in the fall of churchill downs And he's getting lazy six. You know if he runs in spy also entered to totally a lot of questions. A lot of lot of dilemmas. A lot of Different ways to go. You've got soup and sandwich who still who still fascinates me more than anyone. I'm seeing all you that That top gun. Tommy had had been entered in the race yesterday against the soup and sandwich that The kelly brain scratched out of that to you. Know to say the east coast. That was nothing to by the way areas by the way here one to five favorite and the free field and no. He's totally boxed in all linked to the bachelorette which is which is good was field. It's amazing how trouble and three hundred fields and luckily the other horses off the rail and he africa next thing you know. He's got the free link lead. Just come through on your rail With the not even moving his hands on him he just like cruises to the lead But it'll be interesting but just top gun tommy. Yeah i mean he's coming back to back wins so we'll see what happens with him. He broke his maiden and then they then they gave him lasix. Anyone again. So you know. He's he's obviously to go along. He's got stamina whose pedigree. It'll be interesting to see how he does in here. I'd like to talk to cassie about About this horse to see what he thinks about him. He's picked mrs weber as i smoked her over the weekend. They're they're they're very excited. I should be like. I said it wasn't if this was matures and know wakes up and grows up gets his act together. He's future is Unlimited i mean. He's got a lot of a lot of ability and like i said he's. You could see very intelligent horse. It was just like curious looking around at everything. He's got to break that habit in the race but it's not the matter what he does the well. It's not doctor. She gawking. the things in still wins. Go look like a champion. Well it's not affecting a against two horses Two different story when you start putting eight ten phantoms. So far i'm not saying that setting them as a w we don't know that yet but you know just going by the visual if he wants to be a derby horse. He's he's got. He's got to get more professional. Let's put it that way you can't. He can't do these things. y- plus every and both of his races comes out of the gate and he breaks to the inside both of his races but in the last race is three horses. And you know he's he's in third and the horse in front is still like you know like olympic have two lengths in front of him and starts the easy and this what season. He throws his head up in the air. Like you got intimidated by something. So just one thing after another but He looks like he's got. He's got a lot of ability. But it's kind of interesting well i- charlotte charlotte's beating the beating the bushes for various Soup connotations so it's name soup nazi no. That's no soup for you know so for you. Find steve actually. You mentioned Glad you mentioned the cross entry regarding Mcpeek and At warrior and chief because there is the battaglia and with the money that's involved at For the ruby This drew drew interesting field Tomorrow night you know again. It's nice horses here. We just don't know much about them and even after this race no matter what they do not gonna know. We're not gonna know much about them. But yeah i listen. I know they were high. And on gretzky. The great he had looked really really good on the turf. And then there's less start You know in the breeders cup juvenile turf. He showed each speed and he got. He got tired in that race. Coming off of raise you so Let's see what he does here. You know he's had. He's had a lot of time to get over that race but again we know when he starts his win this race. She's still don't know how to handle the dirt wesley. Roughly words horse You know they put him on the synthetic this last start and he looked very impressive is You know like the king you know coming off. coming off the grass. But i don't know it's a big field. You know anybody anybody can win this race. Who just don't know We just don't know how good they are. You know just Brad talk about of course horses for robert repent And i don't know this kinetic sky you know he's coming from fairgrounds and off deter for a steady won impressively. He goes onto the synthetic the first time penta by the way he's got Fister throws a name out for your brother. He's got a new york. Red name divest named after insurance steak the other day. I know i'm just saying a lot of people don't know about because new york steak but you just run. This was the real deal. You like his. He's in new york red name. Only i mean. Pedigree is spectacular. But you watch this horse. he's flawless. he's he does nothing wrong. he's got the more again. Most beautiful stride runs straight and narrow great mechanics Everything about him. He looks like the real deal so i'm looks like right now. They're going to go to the dawson or they might wait for the ward which. I wouldn't be too crazy about you. Know he's only run. You only run the two times but if he runs into gotham that will make things interesting. I think he's a really really good horse. Yeah he ran away from he ran ran away from that field and guessing so effortlessly. I mean does every he's just as everything evidently and he doesn't do anything wrong in a race. I said it's mechanics are flawless. You know he's bat. Well-balanced never deviates office pass at all. I mean he's an absolute pro again you know. He's beaten new york bridge but three horses but then they shared the same thing earlier about you know law. you know. Forget about the fact that he was running against new york brands the way he did it. And you look at his pedigree. Like i said it's pedigree is just excellent excellent pedigree. It's all kentucky-bred. So he's new york bredon An in name only. But that's the name definitely to watch if he goes into gaza which could be an absolute monstrosity of these can be some really good horses in there but watch out for Vinnie vast sounds like nickname. It sounds like a character from guys and dolls nick. Nikki nikki. nikki nikki. Yeah he's supposed to be real character. He's like makes the martinis raoult's he's the bartender. Business thing is coming up but it's always worth is coming up. You got to get up no more coming up anymore. We get into too late. We're almost into march for you. Better you better establish yourself right now as it w horse true. We're that's why that that's why that That this group tomorrow at gulfstream i. I'm glad you brought that race up because that would have slipped through the cracks. So that like. I said if known agenda wins that race impressively put him back in his as a serious contender. Yeah it's easy to the blinkers. That did it. Not delays as well tampa. I mean tampa's A funny place. And you know it's not like it's not like he didn't engage eventually after languishing. He'd then he came with that but that might rush. It takes it sometimes exactly a while to get used to track even within the race. Yep so they can go like They can go like you know a mile three quarters of mile or so and just decide start running now get horses. Take time to get used to a track. So maybe he just didn't like it but he he was flying at the end but part of that is also because they were crawling at the end. Doors is a front where we're getting really really tired. So you don't know. If i was the case or whether he was actually just finding his best drive i mean. He made up over it links as mile. He was really moving so if he's impressive in this race tomorrow then i you know i got to start thinking again. I i like ranked number seven or eight for a couple of weeks. That's via wasn't that who it's i love. This is better use european greatest silence in in europe. You find all these classic winners darshan hold on no reply saying something brett to To run all day and see how that amount does. Both of toys is run by a owned by vinnie viola. One of them in partnership with the police but But it'll be interesting inc. Steve will be kept busy between the the big card at gulfstream culminating with the fountain. And you got this allowance. Friday night you got the battaglia and at oaklawn the southwest than we got champions coming back like On a girl and v quest and there's going to be a good as we're easing. We're kind of easing into almost march. We'll we'll call this weekend. You know the wrapping up. You could get exactly so and then the big week next week. So secretary dot com about this open sandwich leno. i well it I'm i'm recommending recommending tomato bisque and grilled cheese as as the serger that now that's the classic pairing steve aspirin. Everybody's don't put it in the paper bag you saw. You saw my paper bag. Stick i those honey nut cheerios. In there they those were honey. Nut cheerios. observant i am. It's so I'm happy to use the plastic bags. And i mean the Paper bags there's days where i forget. My you know you. You gotta bring your own. You gotta bring your own bags into the store which is fine. There's days though where. I leave them in the house and then i forget to put them back in the car so you get to the grocery store and you don't have the back so i put this up last night because i i. I reached with the camera. The bag rips out of my hand and breaks and i'm staring at it and i'm like this is this is ridiculous when when we were kids and that's why i wrote it the way i did when we were kids. The grocery bag you'd come home you take the grocery. Then you'd fold the thing up and there was like seven thousand things to do with. You'd make it into book covers the their school projects with these bags the like tissue paper and they're charging you a nickel for them. Well i can tell you how many times i made book comes from those bags. Of course cut you. Cut them up and you fall slip them into the fbi and then and then and then you label it and then the next year next thing you know you're doodling all over it You're doodling all over the back in the front of it. But yeah i mean god knows how many nights spent Using the you know to to wrap my books in the paper base have to double. Shall we say you want double bag. The thing to do is make sure you bring your own your own your own grocery sack into the store. I the be i. That's like that was like the third one that and maybe the winters contributing. Maybe because it's cold out. I don't know i th. They're more brittle. I have no idea. But it's somebody guess very interesting responses to that. Somebody talked about how it's all recycled paper. And so it's not as you know it doesn't have as much Strength diller brook no matter what you post on facebook by the way you're going to get one hundred people commenting on it no matter how trivial might say this i. I did this tongue in cheek. Because i people would would be amused. And and they clearly were So steve i got rich incoming rays. He's on the line But i Did you see the the picture that sufficiently put up from tvn. On what. It's a picture of the of the jocks room at acqueduct and there's about eighteen fourteen jocks and we identify them. You mean yes. And i did see that. Yeah they they looked familiar. But i couldn't put the names was a lot of 'em well we got. We got quite a few done. Actually i i sent it to bill hirsch and mig and to georgia velazquez. And i think we got. I think we got all but one named And yeah some some and and you know it's funny Some names that People really have forgotten about George hera donald montoya for hated yet to terror. And he's all diesel. You know jackson. Everybody knew back then. It was so good senior. Young run turcott sitting there exactly and there's a there's a A bug boy. The bug boy sitting next turcott is Kevin whitley who won three hundred races definitely remember him prime by the way you know. I used to get the photos of all these. These young riders all these. You know after file them so their their faces are implanted in my brain. Not quite a lot of those drivers. Ed recognized well. And jimmy. Miranda was one that georgie just just the nobody had got i used to write for tartan stable maranda now. This is kind of fun and Meg meg meg was even able to identify the The guys the ballots that are that are in the background to this. Big is right on top of it. cliff garvey and billy gilbert The this is And actually it. Also when i looked up some of the jocks and some of their their big mouths that it also gave me more ideas for my horses. That time forgot that We're gonna. We're gonna do that series. And i've got a new york bread and a packets landing that people probably don't remember. That was a really good hard hitting gander type. Steve asking i appreciate it. Let me get rich. Angan here for ten minutes. All righty take care. Steve asking everybody secretary dot com reaching standing by. Good morning steve. You know. I missed that photo i would. I would love to see that photo because some of those jockeys were definitely riding. When i started in new york back in seventy. I mean those were a lot of names. I remember well this picture. This picture is clearly from. And i'll i'll i'll send you the link i'll send you a dm with it The it's on sue finley's Feed but The this picture is from the winter of seventy six based on it particularly on the On the bug. Boy kevin whitley because he he started. The year has started his writing at that winter in new york. It's really fun and you. You see you know velazquez there and and ascent vasquez and you know Angel oh tastic yeah. I definitely weather z. That because You know when. I started seventy nine. I knew jimmy maranda daryl montoya and obviously the all the big name writers that gets kevin one most of those raises. You're talking about up and finger lakes. I guess yes. He did exactly and And then he had you know he would. He would have A couple of courses around new england and and such that would get him. You know to other into new york to And i'm just here. I'm pulling up. The i'll read i i just i answered it. I did not like tweet. It out too but i will It didn't the ones that are already identified. Include darrell montoya. Ron turcott Gustin sally your augustine's john ryan Georgia velazquez john krug a angel reuben hernandez and jose. Amy omar great and then. Let's see bill hirsch. Hersch came up with whitley as the as the bug and meg added jamie airline. Actually hirsch also jay leno and robert pineda which was a name that i didn't That i did not know how. And the and the one. That georgie just added was jimmy. miranda that had gone unidentified what group. It's amazing actually. How often these these. I take those pictures from Down in baltimore and i send them out From the office where i broadcast by the press box and People just love it. I you know the somebody wrote me. A funny i put out one During pre this and somebody said didn't they have color back then and and they did. There was color photography but because the newspapers were all black and white all the almost all those pictures even into the eighties are black and white. Oh yeah you would send him out the like. When i was working in new york. Send them dirty only news and the new york post and the times and newsday that kind of thing. Yeah they'd want black and white is a name. i. I know you didn't mention. But i guess you didn't make the photo was in. That era was a jockey. Angel santiago i remember very well but i guess he didn't make the photo. No and that's that's a new name by me to add agents angels at the go yuck is one of the his trivia answers I believe he was one of the first jockeys on was john henry or something like that. But you'll when you look at the When you look at john. Henry's long long resume you'll see angel. Saint jago writing for ethnic lefty nickerson. How about that way. I just pulled them up. I absolutely he won ninety six thousand on john henry so he wrote him. He wrote him a few times. The horse that i should. I should have remembered him of being associated with is Cup of joy. The really some work bread. I'm trying to remember. It was robert Tremor the owner and the trainer. I can i can picture their faces struggling with their names. Now peres. That was that was right and had He used to bring the horse us. I'll callejas exactly good job. Good job she was. You know she was really did a series on on the early on early. Start new york breads. She would be up there right. I mean she. Oh yeah thing about robert perez was he was. He was not afraid. Alfredo was more afraid. But robin varez matt afraid to run her in the toughest spots available in new york. She wanted the mother goose second in the coaching club and then she kind of tailed off. It's funny she did not i. I didn't realize that she did not run past three. They they ran her in the jim. Beam they centered. They sent her to caledonia latonya to run in the jim. Beam that year. Oh that must have been that. That was probably before. I went to turf. Wait the the pr director that would be. Cause was before my time there. And and that's right. When when i lived in cincinnati i think eighty four was the last year i think right turf became carefully and eighty four eighty five eighty five when the jerry carroll and his group bought the track and renamed it and funny story about why was named turf way. Park was th they spend fifty thousand dollars in marketing Search for a new name and the road that goes by the racetrack is called. her way. road became part. that's that's funny because Because when when. I see when i see the sign it was called turf way before the track was renamed. That's hysterical the road right by the racetrack. You know. that's that's what it ended up being well and it will. of course there was. There was the potential for for it to go back to the new la- tonja But they're going to stick with with turf way and of course You know last week rich. The hr vote in getting getting this thing sealed and delivered Assures a future For turf way but at the same time we spent the last two mornings Dealing with the situation that at arlington. Yeah that's that's that's kind of a shame to to see all ington. Go by the wayside. I did spend one year. They're working throughout for bob bork. And the mr dutch soi and that's it's one of the most beautiful racetracks not only in the country. Maybe in the world the architecture the greysteel club alicea the turf course just. There's so many nice things you can say about it. It's it's going to be very disappointing to see it. Disappear from the american landscape of our tracing the don't know if this This last chapters written in stone just yet we had michael campbell from the horsemen earlier and discuss the yesterday with marcus version and matt hegarty but It's i thought where you would comment that a couple of different times. I mean if you lose places like Hollywood and bay meadows and rockingham suffolk called her. The i mean technically hialeah is gone from the landscape. I mean if if if a track like hialeah in hollywood don't survive than nothing that there's nothing sacred at that point. Yeah it's really a shame. I remember the year that i was there. We had a very difficult Arlington million festival. Because people remember back then. There was an acquaintance herpes virus outbreak. And we had a difficult time with You know. I we had to get it under control and then the horse. You're coming in for europe but Mr bush all the credit in the world. He said spend whatever money. Do i have to do to get this done. Little is similar to have rebuilt rebuilt the virus it. Just get it done and We were able to get it done and rana festival. Despite you know serious Illness but we gotta done in it for the safety of all the horses And that was that was really a great achievement to to get that accomplished reg before we wrap here the naira turf way arlington. What other tracks did you work at. before On a publicity side before going turf riding Well i i. I was down gordon state park when we opened up in the eighty. Five of mr brennan. That's general staff Race track of the twenty first century. was there. I worked at the meadowlands in monmouth park. for the new jersey sports and exposition authority Seen in need of course The murph i forgot anyone but it's i. I've had a chance to see a lot of great racing but the most important things is. I got a chance to meet a lot of great people. And a lotta great athletes. You know meaning the trainers jockeys owners participate this board. There are so many great people in the industry that that's that's the memory that i take with me. That's a nice little jersey little Little illinois new york kentucky count you. That's pretty much of a survey You you you you caught most of the region's really got to pull out but We'll catch up We've got plenty of action next week. Let's focus toward that and three year. Old starting to come into focus. Three over-anxious should be real interesting as we start to cook toward the kentucky derby watching those very closely richard Visit rich race day. Las vegas dot com for his analysis and rich for pro pick on twitter and the author of betting on horse racing for dummies one. Thank my campbell. And dick powell and chris griffin. Steve ask enriching today weekend preview. A huge weekend preview tomorrow. I hope marty back. Nope mardi is up to visit because You know he's been dealing with his. I h- issue and Maybe the balloon of a little bubble they put in. Maybe that's dissipated so he can participate. 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Creating New Materials with AI

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Creating New Materials with AI

"Hi i'm craig smith and this is i on a this week. I speak to alan aspiration. Goosing a professor of chemistry and computer science at the university of toronto about his work in new materials discovery with machine learning and building fully automated materials that can synthesize molecules discovered in a computer allen's work has applications in everything from healthcare to combating climate. Change i hope you find the conversation as amazing as i did. Can you give an introduction of who you are and how you got to where you are in machine learning where you did your education. How you got to canada Beautiful background my name is selena. Spool seek amana professor of chemistry and computer science of university of toronto and also faculty member of the rectory for Elliott's i- annuity. I walk in mexico Beach seeing california and then became a faculty member at harvard university from two thousand six two thousand eighteen where i decided that i wanted to change countries in. I found this wonderful country to the north korea. Canada would be out in. Since i just have to interrupt for a second. Why did you move. I moved basically kind of looking at hair was in happened in the united states of the election of donald trump was raised concern about the future of the country is ajar invited environment. So thinking of moving to places like a failure our community our more civilized societies. That i was some sense previewing. What happened. I can some sense feel vindicated in something will happen and i wanted to get out and no fortunately now i mining skim through your nightmares. Came to my niners can through. I just had a conversation with someone who is talking about the genealogy of artificial intelligence in the united states house so much of it can be traced back to toronto and i was pointing out that the reason for that is geoffrey hinton largely geoffrey hinton who left pittsburgh because he didn't want to be beholden to darpa funding so it's ironic canada's really benefited from the politics of the united states. So tell me about new materials discovery. And the i at vantage if you wanna think about how easy bucket in the world you think about acknowledged where we don't even think about it for example phase like we shouldn't facebook or prediction and goal is the bronco two somehow. Moderate is by all annuals to buy such proverbs. Book is more and more the soft around which is a huge battle economy. What you use day. plastics touching the structure medina. I'm sitting on the stable day. I don on the allies that are used in all different industry components. everything custody. We met three us so the questioning. Kenai help in improving our physical environment in molecules and that's one of the fascinating Specifically you've been working on climate change and energy there were five or six domains that i've seen your reference My ears help society tackle some of these journalists in the world so greatly. I'm working on this. Go running small molecule drugs for coronavirus treatment as may people entering the world and one of many other using the computer. Ai to try to discover molecules so always been interested in applications who humanity we see the immediate threat of climate change will need is finding new deals in several classes of energy technologies energy generation. He store data. Google lowered with Whose the performance of such systems so my my career staff by listening to the gingrich was the science advisor. Tony blair berkeley are unto thousand seven. Five two first four. He can mean he told us about the danger of climate change in how the ghosts of the uk. We're gonna be so affected by them hell. It's very hard to generate below. L'energie is such an island country under fascinated. Me and then. I thought thinking about a sources me the plastic those when i real session gorgon Dykes worth the law on Best molecules said he used to try to make sources of plastic Debate on that topic. So i've been working on that. I would say for fourteen years on and off without your cells. Sorta sales made plastics are. Don't available temperatures Material in bailey film layer. What is really interesting about them. Is that the jimmy. Carr's space took story so large to relative to blame the market arcelor's that we have found very good candidates for low performance. Laura sales flexible performance ourselves. Not many in high-performance our sales. The questions helped decrease performance in the lifetime excited. Because we can replace a lot of things that i've met with other dignitaries such as silicon graphics which are raising to make manufacturer scalable. That was still because i worked together with mike. Ac- someone however when i was there we were thinking of how to replace These using the world practically using of leaking Magnesium manganese whatever soldiers for different metals. That are using batteries. And how come you have these. Just meal forgetting molecules so we the field goal organic through batteries around. I would say six years ago. Five years ago when we started thinking about our bodies in bayreuth ecosystems all the time is for electric transport. Can we use those molecules faster. Bracelets yeah i understand the concept of flow batterings on a very large scale where you have tanks of water and that sort of thing. Can you talk about how develop this new material that could allow of flow battery in a very small space shuttle let these are optimized for dollars per kilowatt hour would use a unit of energy store known as for the volume so the way we think about let me say water soluble monarchial and large scale broadly based obligation not necessarily for you cellphone. You're really drink devices so that will be very challenging because they medium batteries for example are extremely energy efficient so the number of electrons berry williams bay high which is the most important thing so he indicates of the robot. morning through the gospel electrons store because of you wanna store massively right with mars the way you wanna think about monica space is elite. bore his infant library. I he had his youthful thirty analogy of the library of Will make more cases the same. You can just take a mortgage and just make dining vacation to a new change. Beach by dollar in the morning changed dramatically impractical as we can reach is actually lower given a number of the universe so huge number of danger. is basically a fantastic place to store. Because me up. For whatever gimmick broaden you have a hand held device gimmick of space and look at also will combinations of the arrangements and see if what you're looking for i said By the type of visas of course Scoring where various mobile Molecule can make them much more bolton's draw any small chemical music big difference when you're thinking applications. Imagine a plastic coating the school nineteen ride you can dopey to another particles reichel -centration and you say twice or better scale of the dead of the buyers in the surface that will be fantastic because it means that we of medina and goats. All embraces like handrails. What's the best way of doing that. So that i have two thousand one hundred and it is a standard curve out homeless. A thousand do a homework or thin one. So i'm not asking for much matthews for those standings speedo of this already of his d'amitie is because i think that would be huge for society. And can you describe that process. Do you start looking at corollaries. That have properties that you wanna find in other molecules. The wave works. We called structure property relations building. We can calculate if you email restructure when Or his property that i get a month for example. The lobby organic molecules for cellphone. This place so there you Basically the monkeys. Brian hold on a second quarter saw. You wanna away blue monarchy monarchial that means like bay fuss ryan very behind monaco. So gimme could face. Infant thin limit yourself to the regions of monaco's the look more or less will be no work to cell place on then user computer an ai to look at the bottle mutations of molecules in the space and find out which of those molecules with a certain pre mutation has the highest emission of light on the gory wonder saying was particular liu so once that happens then you actually have to go and physically instance shave this. Because i was on the computer. You actually act to build it. And i found out the mideast strolling macarena was a building. But now you gonna rule you actually can just roll up to make molecules. Faster incorporate that into mafia space will make a lot of molecules. The ones that. I'm adding olympic Baltics it goes the process of idea being them making them on testing them together that you up to accelerate kind of like a like a pipeline under the more you going doors application so we We calling said interested. Richest columbia goldens in films so we build a coaching role. The deaths So that's so you mine alive. Thinks from the what mortgage make all the way down to to actually making the devices the new girl and it is kind of by blind but you wanna accelerate here here here here here and here and on. The discovery sat on the simulation side. The it begins with some sort of a search function that you're looking for molecules with a certain shape. Or how do you narrow the search space. We are using tools for machine learning that Genetic models a try to simulate the distribution so we've been doing recently is first on the computer for a bunch of candidates that care about to generate a sample off a mortgage that look like the space that we want to search. We train his machinery. Molin to reproduce. Monica's look like that. And so far as we're i mean giving phases. We'll give your face in disguise even want use the look like this kind of drug molecules or monica's you just look like that and you say yeah. This looks like one of search laser. Molecules wonderful display molecules or their ability. Kills whatever application you care about. But that's not when you really want. Would you really want that. He's best of your rookie for so. We talked earlier. Artificially small another neil amid work or bachchan gushing Connected good that's more than goal is to actually connect death slack to the of the missionary mother. Learn about his life molecules delibrately in such a way that we can ask the machine learning model maximizing property and daily which has such a property in other words we conditionally generates from distribution molecules have hypermobility being very booth at what we want and collision generation is what allows us to do wedding chemistry to go embers assign which basically means given property when a fine. What is the best structure best at these flies eats performance so you create a representation of that property through the neural network. Is that right. Yes list your networks or three Three that day so molecule and combating enduring bendler precipitation. I'm gonna that golder ethan. Gold's the monica destruction. Do solving the electrical late in space. This league older that candidate from space back demonic restructure. So if you want those to your neighbors you're getting golden gold back and forth then agreed the fairly new on the maps to that in go. This base molecules from that goes based properties. The way you do it as you did take a molecule that you know his property you in cold it and look at wade failing late in space and then you think the point of the landing space upon correlated with particular performance metric. And if you do that for say a few thousand molecules nationally yourself. A map of trees latest space go for the properties. And then you're using computer to region and featured molecules that could potentially be going up so if you think goldie colder nowadays touch the new video them together. So that's what goofing on your and machine learning. They're really so kits that you can just connect to liberate interesting things so this look too many principles that you can mix and match. Yeah and then. Once this network of neural networks has surface molecules. That may have this property. These are not necessarily that exist in nature. These could be new. Molecules sat right. That's the way the moral this. Look at the ones that dr in nature but more likely would be knowledgeable will give you is the most has been made four and goals the next day added. We're working on which is how to make. It is a fascinating problem. 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And i think he might be quite successful in almost getting and and then is the ambition to put this chain together into a single platform so that you could have then identified the properties that you want to find a molecule for and let the nets run and then instruct the robot to synthesize these molecules over and over and then there would be testing module. That would test them and you would just let it run day and night is is that. Am i oversimplifying null. You're saying slacking right him on. That's what we're getting older people under gupta the university of liverpool Assist delays for diocese. And my friend. Baby mama jama in there for Has known this for now tubes. So there's a lot of people in the world have ray said he sought for assistance. I want to make Matias explanation from as broad as possible as oppy coldest So that we accelerate size itself because electricity. The world hasn't done just think about this country does right now getting the healthcare sector. 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Co two from the air but it fuel you can born again. Nikai about a beautiful. Would that be the world. there's also show. of course only goal things will go into fusion reactors. All the they into the weaned meals that could be lightweight stronger leaves and instead so all the different components they're going to always Technologies could be improved. Matete aside l. More or less fasting. And where do you stand going back to the methuselah battery. Where does that stand now before. I left harbor mike. Gloria just had this beautiful discovery of ammonia last very long nine when aamir reference and we'll race sold one of the size of the organics Attention in discharged them all commodities from one to the charge. Small So we have one side a little Hydrogen signs very highly monica's are more stable road will take the team. Another five years saw just beneath Roughly really work on that side swell up demonic us that will be extremely expensive floor. Five quite fast for Noise in the world is taking a long time to take them off the ground. Just by the beatles After thinking about this other nation out to speak about making things faster. Where does he stand. Michael going. I decided to continue working space but not compete with them so we invented a new molecular class. That in my land were exploring. We're having so related issues not assault as we fought the mri. So we have another female. Now rabat potentially a new glass of one accuser withering now at toronto only lose around the world now not only our many teams around the world are making rapid so now is the field so this goofy field science from the new idea out by just Now so far the automated lab. The you hab is a test lab. What would it take to put that into production so that you have the platform that as you said that. His general enough up the people all over the world could use some one from to make almost two years. But you can mat mafia sedation blah from florida. Rick clasped mattias. One is making structure bully mirrors when making organic molecules when bags making alloys. One that he's So when i minded these one day having center facility where we have interesting to any of them and we have staff members and know how to use them. And because gyco minor in an intelligent way we can about the applications as motto ago. Five bedroom i can close to. You is something that i call now. The mattias exploration consortium which is a consortium. Because i liked seda industry involved in national laboratories involved the university status acceleration. Basically any gun of dr bad mcsally ball and this consortium has a moonshot which is accelerating scoring theus bisected off-spin and one of the victory meeting. The last few weeks is booming for bolsa forbath so that we can start getting started in toronto but also in canada many agree to see british columbia for example analyst That i know. So of course in the world. I'd be mentioning to use Domestic glory days including the mexico that is working with the robot. So i like to say this thing and this will go into exploration consortium Going back to your division. That you're faking. He would be at a room full of this mavs. Young people with energy hope which in thorne sold madelene six cycles sneaker. I'm a runner. I will toss speaker that. I just saw Barely semaine sneaker. Throw away to into the lancelot. Laurie a role that probably. You wanna leave in. I wanna live in many many people. That are also one i mean. That's it for this week's episode. I wanna thank alan for his time. If you want to know more about what we talked about today you can find a transcript of this episode on our website. I on a ari. That's why hyphen o. N. dot a. i. The transcript is scrolling with speed controls. So you can run through it quickly and remember the singularity may not be near but a i is about to change your world so pay attention.

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CEO Speaker Series With Sir Martin Sorrell

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CEO Speaker Series With Sir Martin Sorrell

"Thank you very much. And we're very pleased that half the day in our ceo series. Sir martin sorrell who is one of the best known businessmen in the world and certainly one of the leaders are last several decades in the advertising world before we get into the advertising world and some other things we want to talk about a martin just curious. You and i travel a lot. Are we used to travel a lot. What's it like being penned up in. Let's say your home in london your office in london. You're used to traveling. Probably three quarters of the time. Is this been a big change in you and you like it better. You get worse on pajamas. You'll don't i lock it as like total thing to say about at schools. Such highlight research last year is a year now out from a personal view of physical by the height a. The combined data cool free. Flavio part is you all by herself. A little bit more risk to the point so that they know maximum i. I think i'll be massively office off. People sent new breath pre three days in the office reconsolidated. Lisa's non-immigration nestle apple ariane Now forty four hundred people in thirty one countries in fifty six so it's enabled us to jettisoned. Lisa's consolidate properties much foster over wanted to different spaces spaces where people can congregate. They can meet. The police amick lives. We have different types of spaces less often states. More valuable commuting more living. I'm worth working so i think it will be much more flexible environment. I think it's not a resigned. Be he'll on travel long trips. So beautiful to see. Porn oldest are probably going to to the region for two weeks and then combined whereas in the elevator. I might go to singapore comeback immediately. So i'm assembly impressive sprint and technology as you know the young institution. Why was that. We ran for one side of america. Although where we could easily do so much more easily in this technology so in london i you i assume have been vaccinated by now. what was it like. And there's everybody feeling that are going to get vaccinated relatively soon or still lockdown environment in london tweeted out america was e easing little retinue of its Also brought remodels easing germany. We will saw to ease salutes are giving a sort of strangely out playmates for moxie cree. Summer summertime break men out will will have restaurants swell right something. The lavonia salon sunny to ease on on the government become bigger. You walk down at head be criticized for mutual Said but they've done a good job of braxton the word crew kate who was was communism To buy vaccines of iraqis bremen. She an outside dog she is. She said on the six months ago. Boris johnson a fraction of the cost of labor opposition. Furthered attraction from the But we will have enough vaccine to distribute elsewhere and we must be about now giving up for a battle appropriation to be vaccinated. So were behind israel. But they've done a good job on nation by is some speaker. Would it be vaccinated. Ameri relegated disaggregated bullish about what happens to to brits from from pomona real world perspective maybe not stop markets real locally so you obviously are believer in the power of advertising giving your career. Oh if the prime minister said a lot of people. don't wanna be accented. They think it might be dangerous. And there's start. Nate percentage united states. That don't want to be back. Said you'd think good. Advertising campaign could persuade people to be vaccinated dude on back stated you says. They drafted in the queen to find see. Explanation won t rex's he'll have been quite in the pain quite struggling or a Impactful i so they have been in some some of some countries. 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Is the way we could still on the business as we built to make sense. Sort of like smack on inspection outright popula just in the us but here unit being caller If she report by lou hill actually stated presley esam communism. Guild construct The company. So i have a controlling short. I looked slight. They will run the legislation around around listens to the naval. You'll cross companies to be listed as stream on the sincerely a a haven in a cost side where the standard was secret is up. Low on up on the printing with behind the stunt at the mainland in all the in the season if we pain effectively acceptable pornographer delivery would be in the seas. So you when you started. Wpp you bought that you use it to make acquisitions but usually people make acquisitions. Historically of companies that are sort of not competing with each other. You bought a number of large companies which historically competed with each other and put them in the same are under the same roof. Think of that. And then you think people on the antitrust world would say you can't do that brand sprite interesting you know. put me breer insulin. Leading brands i would say on no without lvmh consignia all the studies that we have done over the years under the strength of brands. His rebounding rachel role sephora. We're gonna do this on and he runs a house of brands by continent. Bobby brazzi occupied and eagles maize on route nine pila some sites three losses iran ping's sort of separately or east supper me in in. What sense competitive me the business. This reichel the market sugar approach. Which is what you just highlighted. Really started pointing. Fifties rhythm rankles marinho who hubbert. When was. he's he had different agencies for different parts primarily called so have dropped. You're having to see if you had moderated senior vp I made a hostile Thoughts and that the primary and then we. We argued which actually had ford in reverse jammed of the proxy. 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I'm going to go to sit down and play with my grandchildren or i'm going to do whatever you do. When you're sir you're benighted already you can go to lots of places and say you're already a night united. Why didn't you just you know kind of retire. You started a new company. Why did you do that route. Three reasons one some of his jeans mother bertha Heard he jeez physical games. Hopefully i'll live even be on nine so that was one brains screwy. I was like intensely earlier. Don't you know. I don't like dipping in altitude things. I just blew off the leaving on the. I wanted to demonstrate Could build a very strong growth is one of the things we pay. The i came under pressure with the thumb. Wbz really big house on seventy was pressured with dot lion you now from from your Lamb beyond some but hotline hotline growth is the key of claypool shareholder. It's it's different the when i was on. Tv assange is pro and veggies. Meet those more equal bounce Top line growth and much. Don't mind growth light for library acquisitions. Like for light will retain Braith is a critically important dynamic for rebuilding as sort tightly around bits because digits growth this even last year when the world was being beset by covid digital advertising switched money traditional media built grevious license and as look at this year with gdp cool carson greece life By the leading investment banking houses silent sex about francis share before the five minutes year. You're gonna see a very strong growth in digital. It's been strumming for last year. As some of the out of the pratt homes twenty percent you for like the light hours and forty percent. Facebook thirty percent huge increases in the lab practices. We had an amount. Starring results yet will be right. Lebron months so the gritty receiving with us now of what is s for stanford is there. Are there four ashes there. What it's really like my my grandfather father side in eighteen. Ninety-nine from my mother's all the back he's he's married round from his marriage their grandmother. Mary best as we can figure out in eighteen ninety. Nine saving problems mytalkers claimed the cutoff Six hounds amazing ten across central bounty wall to take the sword in of his benway. He grandmother they were remarried. Married again he pay amount for the first time as science. The wedding significant across the full witnesses sign with courses wells cpa word where bats swan. My former is to imus three. My three boys Grandkids now seven the samedi suicide. Okay and seven grandchildren and you can remember their birth dates and everything. Okay so let me ask you. this very often advertising is designed to focus on people who are eighteen to forty nine people over forty nine. We buy a lot of stuff to and we have more money than the people under forty nine. Why don't you focus on people like me do we do. We don't return you as low a. 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Okay so let me ask you. If david cameron had called you up and said i think i'm gonna lose this brexit vote. Can you get an advertising campaign that might actually save the british empire. What would you have done similar. The bruins three be breaks. I was drope on. Cummings wherever you think of trump or be of our Was the judaism not what they cannot. Win was a crystal clear calm. Praying was a negative but it was the same over yes but it was the fact that control interesting journey haywood was the was the having secretary to the cabinet that's on the referendum his his life sadly jeremy night he's like i'm reading is written written a book based on from jambi before he sadly concern a few months ago. Stripes have tried to persuade. Cameron novel tells the story of gang rape the be allowed me. The referendum was on. I am awake to see hammered on the tuesday bothered interesting who his is many restore course of the day as he got out and A summer apparently simply reduce reports of in new york. You're you're gonna lose this unpromising said none of my postel me. We're gonna ran on right up to thursday evening even after the polls closed not dissimilar to what we sold a within a reprints. I'm donald trump in sixteen commerce. Still believed homerun thought he was gonna lose. All the dates of does seem to suggest that but the onset question with the packed with a crystal clear Ta woman that was as thank would take control tight back controllers given inequality given the fragmentation that we've seen wooden populate was a phenomenal make. America great again is a is a nominee example goodwill by orb of a similar pompes campaign slogan subsidy extremely simple crystal clear and take back control. There's a wonderful. tv. Don't i'm i'm trying to win. But who who produced it. I think it was on bbc about me coming campaign on working to see holly palmer. Slave woman on campaign so vote was really off oxygen. So you've been knighted by the queen. I assume it's a big honor. You know your grandfather were by. your mother. lived to see that. So congratulations but suppose the queen called you up now instead. I'd like to skip oil. Families image. a little bit bomb one. Would you suggest the royal family due to kind of have an advertising campaign that could make them a little. Bit more up-to-date will we're only custody. I want to crawl on the mississippi. A historically accurate your home. She helps a. I'll not tonight. I i met met helps. It's great debates from princeton it which is credited crown service decided. Bbc documentary belt while it may seem some people might make them seem to human. I disagree the issue. We're on the record. It's ten thirty three. But what is her name. I find fascinating. Miss peon tug of war between buckingham palace. I'm howard megan. Come to maybe crescendo. Oprah winfrey edgy. On march the seven will be will cost relief that it might be on the following evening. I hit this silvery. It is got to this sort of lower accusations of bullying being lay in the times. Newspaper say comey macho christian. I think he's Difficult problem amendment for low Lewis has been by. Rita's storyline The center dri was recovering region. Delighted to hear as so maybe he'd make his hundred birthday unreal. I'm exceptionally difficult situation though. Men's cirrus people's is is the inflation crisis will simpson and we'll see how it pans out times before we go to questions for our members. I one final question in the end. Do you think as a businessman. Based in britain that brexit is going to be good for the business community or not good for the business community and when things that yes the bay presley to maintain protections of people really. Good second riva. He he signalled but we have to balance the budget Next to rise depends on the twenty three from nineteen to twenty five cents so we will still be competitive unfairly around hill reforms free reconstruction bank but other medicines determining crew rivers. Economy in. my here is that you pay to be and is reminding out so i i was. I didn't play control from the who've been on the basis revised Than us say the economy was on a on a of like we've got off the result of brexit. Cima take you five years to get back on track by the way we will do. That is by being whereby qu'une singapore on times of singapore steroids. I think the free board idea that be gonna begin to see. How many acts and create pretty freeport's eight free Around the country. These would be loud. So you know sort of things that you see in south america ambreen a year ago on on the slowest it. You brush about the unicorn digital activity because tax rates in stride. Juries improves offices. That xetra it's the government could do not really there's something about digital taxes which didn't come out sometimes cetera. It's the government. Loan hill report Across structures own manage. The government is really sir. I'm put money behind this. Then we could see a foster. I icing fry tenure and we have unconfirmed business read very three for the rapidly in a way as saw versus digitally focused on violent rosa's look the bigger firms in the sector. I think xibalba Thing boris johnson is not being particularly positive about business is repeat reported. Said some unpleasant things about business and business people richardson courses of Goldman fund manager his perspective. He must be interesting. Must be a candidate for for brian out at one time made in the near future grown talking about advertising and bernie focus on his image lewsinski's doing on digital media mr brown public relations such bureaucratic quite sophisticated. He's his he. He will brazil's Very different he soared satan among the things that he came out with. Our business in super super are invested in your news. America beyond the guy at one hundred thirty investment allowances unpack investment. Drunk simulate the interesting. Let's go to questions from our members. Can you identify get your name and and identify your organization and ask a question please. And just a simple question thank you. That's how the first one you'll take our first question. From jeffrey rosen lease except on mute. Now button good morning or good afternoon. Martin was an abbreviation I'm going to risk offending david by suggesting that. Since this is the council on foreign relations we might ask you to comment on one. Issue related to foreign relations wins process. Specifically you've been. You were an early adopter of the importance of china and india in the future evolution of global economy. Can you speak today about how you see. China being over the next five years. Let's say what the issues are and the opportunities and could you speak as well about india and how you see them relatively truck well. He was a third of that. Sorry the america's mia an subtlety twenty two beef with a twenty four. So that clearly signalled separately. The that china predictable. It's obviously wearing much the asian markets japan and australia new zealand. But it's not just about time you need moves out the nominee during the philippines. Other pulses asia. But those are the two. Now how do i see china. Very simple twenty. The it be the biggest economy in the world would be on the beautify Is a that. I'm just as water. Does anybody else. About the downside of globalization unity the being crushed globalization developed markets. I send mccain equality since reagan factored in the nineteen ninety s. I've justice as his client throughout latin lives methods. And everything else so all. Nothing's that we saw on it. We'll st worlds the biggest issue for me. A sore i think is a move. I hunt and singapore talked about the cold war and the lifts between year s giant. Which i saw the under president obama. Don't it was just signed. The president trump. Of course businesspeople agreed with with Trying to peyton advantage on various he's intellectual property and other things to building Me you now. Have when working from steve procedures me present minds administration. Lincoln's speech on yesterday or adele. Saigo china is busy as the biggest challenge. He could be difficult for america. Become increasing Down to the rise of china so as somebody. Who's trying to build regrettable business which means an america and stomach today. The question about brexit breaks is going be Over its needs that we have to engage with the assery array. Our free trade agreement with us among the china is not posted. So i think when the dangerous to make choices. I'm not i'm booed uncomfortable. Comfortable about louis is easier the adnan complicated india on the undefined. A statement very strong a view on china. I actually saw a hubby from giant new. We've talked to remember the chain. Something is that how it would keep. Keep the coons of on that apps. O'grady in Else's haven't been able to do so so i will be an easier. Approach passes quite difficult are mobile is uniquely different because history Transparent mobile ads the indian and chinese markets. The chinese wondering. There is no a transplant on. There is a lot of passively leaves little corruption back. I'm president did go off that in in other areas but in the media it still exists. So i would say it's my number one consent and when you talk to people about wanted slits disasters in this organization that we do today analyst. Really have an ounce make president he he will he will be in our to thirty five. I am of teams as well. It is up. So i i. There is no solution. We have president boing moore adult animal. Multilateral rights read more probably more predictable he'll try allies to deal john. I of Away through. I worry that we will have to make the choice i though bt different systems. Richard approaches i. Don't think of the four difficult. Jeffrey room of the one. Sage must have had twenty percent of chinese knock it forty forty five cents million market back again things. We'll take our next question from tom holzer. Good morning david and martin good afternoon more often. Could you back to the post. Brexit impact. I think of the uk a bit as a house of brands scotland in arlington cetera. So what do you think the odds are. We're going to see. Scotland secede secede from the union followed by northern ireland. You reunifying with ireland and england retracts back to the emerald isle on the goes like two hundred. Technically you might played coomer. Rose naturally spot. You're with rouse rung summons A brilliant warri insulting the metrocentre lost zim Gave evidence yesterday for eight hours up in salt. When i am. I lose the rights confidence but the incumbents move in scotland bandaged internecine strife reserve pensive stone. I would say i. I guess that he both cases in a high john's strong johnson even reaching replaces the citizens of missile decisions In a way it's like they question on the brakes campaign I think both serve emotions of people. I knew some back. The power would lives in our communication. They so they such emotional reaction that i would review awesome button on so a we weeks stronger. The anthony signed strife will really. Snp party mites. ration- i. I didn't think so. And then sorenson oliphant south island out. A student vary vary will irish men and women. Erudite of some be his in his business in iras separated a hundred or so years ago. Maine new the economically was to be exciting. Purvey thoughts on a song pointing dine in will be opportunity between the two parts together and i think that sort of city so i bet not interesting john say yesterday talked about a united kingdom leaders trying to unite the country level the country itself tra while things went through my mind is that we will we have a scotland is bothering. I think the indian dates the onus on those two issues something maybe a little bit vissel on pain will be difficult home up. You will take our next question from andrew carmine. He's except i mean. Now you make go ahead. Some technical difficulties will move on and take our next question. From william cohen high. A thank you both. This is very interesting. And i wish you would both explained to us Who the artists of the paintings behind each of you because the contrast quite stunning but of martin could you comment. Please on the efficacy. These days of the wonderland thompson merger now some three years on getting the job done unbathed. Mom took center. Senator washington might might light mother-in-law painted them. Yes they're wonderful online. Come from a at burnham out in eighty months which is contact practice. The history in this laws media Mike and hi chris somewhere that you got some in cooled off at the beginning of the refunding From peanuts depends not so. There's not so sick when i when i was. Wpp still be talk about beyond and train. The slapped award is that john would rum early. Signs will executive That he would run. Remind remind operation. Why tom silicon is a is a more difficult. One via mallards is a kansas city. Based digital company of considerable straight akiva digital wogaman is much is almost in a way. It's a little bit uncle. Be one limits raged one minutes Marketing operations not quite the stone in the digital area as you would would believe so quite more meets mutcd through some changes assum on on on on force and some force i think was was not in our e cheaply strong condition demerge. The reality thing was business is eating without in the same parent company if you for example wonderman thumps and equality singles that or perceived digital is more important than traditional in also is a bit of a great or a full management of the tradition. I pumps the crazy. Relegates comes to secondary status. I reminded the company london. People be the thomson people down and they showed us slum so i think if you had been that the while we wanna be sound sort of could ninety or that. I think what it would say. Don't under it Nervous equal equal voices for will tradition of the business in the new parliament business. I'm the same. Would be true. Wandering false would also. It's it's i what you lose. Enes businesses in the way that you would immediately won't be digitally learned or digitally strong company by the slamming things together. I think it has to be done. More flay appeared time. Maybe at a different time when each individual Little bit slugger nuts. I think if one looks at the market grace is think wandering nelson may be inmates. There's a lot of movement maini revenues within the company so even the present line. Whoever laundromat says the food business very specific were soaked from jacob. The specialists into the semi regular performances claimed find. It says this. I'm done the whole. Repeat about what we have redone. Wgn ogilby example the meteo operations out on the digital world Drop from the straw. He comes off the legs of seven. hokey him. Being you haven't because you take the great pots So when you look at what we can be con- save one channel one brand meal the muka what's happening to the thing as a whole the econ- point to one pilots lights leasing the balloon. Insane mrs duty of which have to look at the whole thing interesting stories. Reinforce goals This data driven mobile relied stride number. Three you get along Keep up on the full as long And we hadn't heard cross john written inside the companies want to be on how we look at the whole denies ation as one being. Joe pods important with sam age. Special problems for question will go back to injured Mark can you hear me this time. Sorry about that. i'm martin. I'm david martin interview on the advertising business. Broadly in the sense that for the first time ever i believe media companies are going direct to consumer netflix. Off course leading the way some of users it's all going to be subscription court cutting etc outside the us of course different story. But you're starting to see the five models and the of course are much higher in this direct world because the pick up on david's earlier point you can target david with the right kind of diapers the wrong ones but the question is how do you see nielsen company. David knows well. And that rating. However you are the sustainable. These at these higher levels will net flicks have advertising one day. How do you see the big picture. And we'll advertising budgets ultimately be higher or lower of five and ten years from now questions that so we see clearly see spain where everybody is taking a risk events or sense face it sleep. Where businesses outgrow review and clients. The unite have traditional coverage on more traditional. Business is not a zero sum game in a traditional Talents among some nonren- mothers talents as fight for accounts and compete with procurement by the love prices of meeting places down ziesel processes guarantees. It doesn't make any sense into believes little brain ruling under the traditional This more on him renew business. The business is around brain not the ability. You'll buy online digital media in a non of really brain power not not not run digital descendants of media five hundred hundred benign alleged this under the one point seven trillion and it will be signed use into the market by pets starting be Aberrations will be vixen subscription. Advise i if it takes him Suddenly find ready committee on digital advertising last year around one. Certainly one eighty face. Looks pretty amazon's of on friday and snap which is extremely well again Assembly some half billion the revenue. So when you look at the orders of magnesia of six geography being will face looms other wrong. Reviews generated significant volumes about g pounds of the ninety s investment. Two thousand seven dollars. Nazi enrollments living on twitter. Pinterest is less than snack. Was doing well out. Where money's only advertise item you. We will move yesterday around around through burner cookies Crumbling the the apple gone the same way with idea soup. bates relationships with consumers our relationship with bathing itunes of houston to amazon is media And disown them will not go. Were you society. As it's their immune is the snow boondoggles. Which is one amount. Apple's another microsoft's sector will be using this an In the best best of the businesses gun on drake's my envious would would disagree They will take advertise along for different topic. Premiums mislead have guys discounted savagely disney plus huge inroads musty the mice icon. Remember us eight nine thousand nine hundred and now and forty million by twenty four. So it's a soup. A successful general watson the disney With covid threaten Loses it serious through the faults nova i. We made stunningly successful decisions and demerge folks Listening so i think some some movies disney payment of The nuggets beginning. It's it's maybe a little bit pressure on netflix. That people right to end inside apple. We'll see where that atmos any particular Apple really is some renaissance services and content is so develops take our last question from joseph bauer. He's except on of now button. Our you go ahead. We're having some technical difficulties and he was the last question so mr rubinstein all right. Well martin i wanna thank you very much for giving us this much of your time and insights and i Want to remind everybody that this video will be on our website right after this. Send a thank you very much martin. Good luck when you get your Hopefully when you get your second shot you'll be won't have an adverse reaction to it. You'll be in good shape you save. Anybody wants to if and finds the button whether it is sponsored. A slow chemical dot com or anybody else to continue the conversation become much appreciated. Thanks very much.

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Joe Dolan's Drafting Tips

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Joe Dolan's Drafting Tips

"It's time to eat. Four, sit down and get ready to consume an abundance of fantasy football knowledge from Ross Tucker and Joe Dolan me now. On the fantasy feast eight and podcast. Let's eat maybe be fantasy fees eating podcast presented today by fantasy points, dot com, use the code feast, and all your wildest dreams will come true. I'm Ross Tucker he's Joe Dolan. This is the show that so nice we do it twice at Ross Tucker, NFL twitter instagram facebook we've got the youtube page. You can see Joe, he finally has a background as he the flyers flag. We'll see how long how much longer that things actually flying back there he's got the fancy points hat. He's all moved in when I think Joe Dolan. I think middle of nowhere South Carolina that's just what his voice sounds like his personality a southern. where he lives anyway, you gotta check out fancy points, dot com I mentioned the other day. You can get the draft kings APP on your phone to get the Free Madden Code if you send it to me Ross at Ross Tucker Dot com, let's do the same with the fantasy points. Go ahead fantasy points, dot com code feast you can be eligible to get the free in code as well. Love fantasy points. There's not a single fantasy website I'm aware of that has a better staff or a bigger staff. Then fancy points led by Joe at F. G. Underscore does. I. Think I mentioned the Youtube page already can't even remember sometimes it's just like I have diarrhea of the mouth and just keep talking talking talking youtubecom slash raw soccer nfl definitely already mentioned that because I mentioned the flyers thing and Joe's hat really redundant terrible start to the show Joe. Let's just talk about the show social media's at Ross Tucker Bod and what the heck are we talking about? All right we're talking about your drafting tips. Your official draft kings drafting tips. But before we get to your official draft kings, drafting tips, I want your thoughts on what's up the latest news means he me honest if I miss anything but let's start with Leonard Fournette as we're recording this putting you guys behind the curtain a little bit. We record both episodes at the same time on Wednesday and then we post one the next day 'cause you're APPs can't handle the truth they can't handle two episodes on the same day podcast APPs can't handle that. So during the season when we do the Thursday night game in the one o'clock aims in the first episode and then we do the late game. Night in the second episode, we record them all at the same time, the magic of podcasting congratulations now you're welcomed in. All right let's start with four net though as of right now. He does not have a team, Joe, what do we need to know about Leonard For net? Why don't we start? I guess it's heavily depend on where he goes. Eight doesn't. Over the weekend you and I are drafting Friday night. Is there a reasonable place to draft Leonard Fournette Tenth Eleventh Round Maybe? And once you get to that point, you could make the argument in the nine th and you're betting that he's going to land somewhere where he's going to have a role, and apparently that's what four nets focused on here revitalizing his career revamping his image We we know that the release Jacksonville look. I'm not trying to St Leonard Fournette lived up to being number four pick in the draft. Okay. We can relitigate that and relitigate it easily. That's that's an argument. The Jaguars would lose in court said, well, you know we actually made the right tech, they lose that argument. Letter format was was a reasonably productive running back. Okay. Like a guy who puts up his numbers doesn't get cut. Two weeks before the start of the NFL season. The problem was and all the reports from like Jaguar beat writers people in the locker room teammates coaches were just sackable and Leonard Fournette is going to have to if you if you play a again, re-litigating argument that nobody needs to argue anymore if you play a position that people view is replaceable and you're a pain in the ASS. You'd better be damn good and I don't think under four net was damn good except for maybe the twenty seventeen season in those playoffs where they almost went to the super bowl. So wonderful net needs to rehab that image he's getting paid already from the Jaguars. So he doesn't need to go somewhere where they're going to offer them. A lot of money nobody claimed him on waivers, which was obvious. Nobody was GONNA pick up the four plus million dollars that they were going to go him. So. If he wants the heat has to go somewhere where they were on power running schemes and man it there's only a handful teams Ri-. Would view that as a positive for fantasy and. The fear right now is if he signed somewhere, it's just kind of a wrench for fantasy. It doesn't help Ornette I mean if you were drafting lender for the third round, you were hopeless anyway. If you've been listening to this podcast not to pick I would have made a in any universe, but you're probably not going to land on a place where he's going to pay off that ADP or come close to it, but he might be able to contribute something in the right spot. I've had a hard time Ross, figuring out where that right spot is and that that's the problem for me. But I think I think he is going to get signed. This isn't a dairy as Geyser Antonio Brown situation I think Leonard Four is going to get signed. He's GonNa sign somewhere. He thinks he's going to have a role just how big that role is is a question to me though so joe, I figured out a place where he could get a tunnel touches a lot of volume ready for it. Is that. The Jacksonville. Jaguars. That would be that would be the ideal spot me I'm looking at the guys they have right now. You know when some of the our best ball drafts are fancy feast, Best Ball drafts, Ri-, Quill Arms. That was my guy. But great me if I'm wrong he's been like banged up so like they're running backs like NYQUIL. Practicing while they're running backs. It's unbelievable that these are like they're guys that are I mean divine Ozeki Abo- James Robinson I mean it's unbelievable. I like it's crazy. A team is starting the season with these guys like. Are. You GonNa. Take one of these guys or consider them in any look Friday night. That's a sixteen teamer. Okay. Is there a shock? Kamer for these guys. Yeah. Because we're going to get carries now here's the thing though I was like you I was drafting armstead a ton but I was drafting armstead a ton because four nets price never made sense to me and Armstead was free. Okay. Now that right call armstead's not going to be free anymore I'm guessing you'll move into the eighth ninth round range I'm not going to be drafting because he said, he started camp on the code with list. He's miss time now with a another illness, which apparently is not covid related but he's missed time there. So that's problematic. And now we're looking at the fact that. He's that he's competing with diviner Zik who apparently has had a really good camp. He's a Greg Cosell. Favorite really likes the way. Opiyo Place Chris Thompson is there he's Scott back and now listen to this in J. Gruden's eight seasons as an offensive coordinator head coach eight full seasons. He's leading rusher has averaged fifteen and a half receptions per season. Per season, Jay, Gruden has not he doesn't use a three down running back and Chris Thompson is one of the big reasons he hasn't used the three down running back Chris Thompson was in there taking catches away from Alfred Morris and Adrian Peterson in Washington back in the day. Ben. Jarvis Green Ellis Cedric Benson. These guys were catching passes in Cincinnati. So the guy who's going to lead this team in rushing I'm worried he's not going to catch any passes, and if you're not catching passes you better be scoring touchdowns. What's the problem with Jacksonville they suck I don't think they're going to score a whole lot of touchdowns. So now all of a sudden right while Armstead's more expensive Divino Zingo he's probably the guy I'd lean to if I want the because I think he's going to be cheaper than Armstead Chris Thompson though until he gets hurt is going to be the guy who I think is going to be this team in production out of the backfield as the receiving back. It's a mess on a really bad team raw so That all the reasons I was fading for net. Are Involved in here. It's just that now Reichel armstead's more expensive. I was willing to buy him when he was cheap now he's now he's going to be more expensive not really a situation I want to dabble. Tyrel Williams officially having a Labor care done for the year. What does that mean for the rest of the raiders receiving core? More opportunity for Darren Waller somebody who I wasn't really in on because it's price was so expensive more opportunity for Henry. Rugs. But apparently the study of training camp Argyle Adam Kaplan at fantasy points has been telling us this a couple of weeks. The Star Training Camp in Vegas has been Brian Edwards, the rookie wide receiver at a South Carolina. So Bats Guy. If you have a receiver at the end of your bench to somebody like you're like I drafted two weeks ago, and this guy was kind of buzzy then but it's been quiet since then. Maybe you drafted somebody like he'll Harry or Mohamed. Sanu just thinking somebody has to catch the ball in new, England you can drop them and pick up Brian that go get Brian Edwards Stat Henry Rugs has probably been drafted in your League Gauguin Brian Edwards. He's going to be starting Xia move rugs all around Edwards is the guy you want though to be the starting ex there I think he's GonNa get a ton of opportunity. I think we're going to bring this up I don't know what you're thinking about Jalen Raider Anyway but the reports at a camp for the eagles had been fantastic. You know he's a starter. Again, we're in a sixteen team draft Friday. The report is he's out for four weeks, but he also has a torn labrum in his shoulder, which is what tyrone Williams just had operated on and has done for the year it another. Way Is the four week thing combined with rookie and now for you to stay away. I don't know about staying away because the reports were really good Jeff McLean at the Philadelphia. Inquirer reported that the eagles are hoping he misses two games max? And then you have to take into account. How much am I going to weigh that risk because the eagles do still need him he's going to get knocked down a couple of rounds in your draft, and if you're willing to bet on the upside, I'm okay stashing him for a couple of weeks. It is a bummer though what what it does point out to me is just I I did it last year and it kind of me, but my logic was down to Sean Jackson on every team. On here he looks utterly spectacular. He is just cooking defensive backs in Philly camp including Darius. Slay. He's just he's looking great nobody ever trust him because he's older and he always gets her but he's a double digit round pick I literally was in a draft on Monday night I got him in the last round He is buried on yahoos rankings. It's it's stupid get to Sean Jackson on every team you possibly can get 'em on. Like we saw last year week want against Washington he had the two touchdowns, not what it nine catches for like one fifty and two touchdowns, and then he basically was out the rest of the season. John Hansen. From fantasy points who you've had on the pot, he jokingly called the Sean Jackson, the twenty nine, hundred Philadelphia Eagles Mvp because their offense collapsed without him they have more speed to make up for if he gets hurt this year but I just think he I, think the upside far outweighs the downside interrupting Sean Jackson go get him. So. Here's something else I wanted I wanted to point out every once in a while before we get into some of the running back stuff every once in a while there's an advertiser for the show Joe and I almost get frustrated that more people don't use it because it's an absolute no brainer and this one is light stream. 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If you go to light stream dot com slash feast l., I., G. H., T. S., t., R. E. A. M. dot com slash feast light stream dot com slash fees subject to credit approval written includes point five, percent auto pay discount terms, and conditions. Apply offers are subject to change without notice visit livestream, dot com slash feast for more information I joe is there anything relevant? About Joe Mixing Alvin Kamara I mean mixing get the new deal yet. Alvin Kamara is going to get a new deal. They're like when I see the, they're open trading him. That's using the last thing they do right before the deal get signed. It's like they're trying to leverage and like okay, we'll trade you. Like they might even announce the new deal before this show he comes out tomorrow morning. So. I think everybody panicked on Alvin Kamara. When Anderson reports here in the saints are open to trading him, and then of course, the I mean this is the world we live in Ross. I mean I'm fantasy guy I have to I have to formulate a take on this because I got subscribers I got people on twitter I got people in discord and. Listeners on the podcasts were like Dude, look at this. What are you doing if you're drafting in five minutes and I'm like, yeah, I mean Move Derrick Henry Moved Alvin Coca Move Joe Mixing Up. He just signed a deal and then things start to calm down and you hear Jeff Dunkin. Nick Underhill, come out and say they really want to extend him. If if he's not reasonable, they'll trade him for pick by the way I. Don't think anybody's trend first-round pick for Alvin Kamara given that he wants to be paid like a top three or four running back in the NFL which is. So I don't think that tapping and then you see Charles Robinson while the saints are looking at more twelve million and he's looking at the sixteen million at Chris McCaffrey won't course he's looking at the sixteen million that Christian McCaffrey ones, and of course, the saints are looking at the twelve million, the Joe Mixing and Derrick Henry just signed for because of like you know look at these guys and he's like well on warlike McCaffrey. So it's just negotiating Poi-. So I'm with you Ross I'm not panicking right now the fact that the Saints The reports would be different percents center like while the saints don't value running backs right now and they earn cap hell which they are and they think they're fine with potatoes Murray. If that was the reports I'd be a little bit more concerned but the fact that they're willing to go to twelve million, I think this gets this gets broken down somewhere in the middle of what Joe Mixing just sign and what Christian McCaffrey sign and they load up and they go for the super. Bowl, but I think Alvin Kamara is exacting every bit of perceived leverage. He has in as much as he can have leverage at this stage with the new CBA and his position because he knows the saints are loaded up twenty twenty and they want to win the super bowl this year and drew brees. I mean. You can say what you want about the running back position I don't think drew brees is sitting here on on September second or third and saying man, you know what Kamara? Back but running backs don't matter. You know I don't think it matters for me to go get a range of reasons going to be happy he doesn't have Alvin Kamara there. So I think they're going to get something worked out but if you WANNA move Derrick Henry above him in your ended the top five right now, I'm totally fine with that. He's a little bit safer at this stage ask Joe Mixing. It was fun drafting him in the second round for a couple of days when he was dealing with my rings as they were saying, those migraines were probably just. A not getting enough sleep because of these because of these contract negotiations but he's back he locked in first round pick at the back end because as we talk on yesterday's program Ross, the offensive line isn't very good. There are still some concerns about him in the passing game but like Joe Mixing I, do expect Alvin. Kamara. Deal to get signed at some point ear and that's just that's not based on inside information. That's just me reading the tea leaves from the public negotiations are the here's the one thing I would say though like wanting to say I have migraines and then you get a headache and your and your contract and you're fine. That Kamerhe. Really get epidurals shot in his back so. I didn't really get the bureau back secondly that he say my backers. Practicing and they're like, all right. Well, we'll give you an EPA daryl and he's like, all right go. Really, just wants more money I I mean. I never want these guys are playing professional football. Okay. Ross you played professional football. You're taking a beating on a daily basis that I can't imagine so. Me Calling out somebody for faking an injury. Just. Because it's fishy timing. I mean, we've seen it Jalen Ramsey. That Taylor Zack Taylor said last week with Joe Mixon wasn't practicing. He alluded that it was not. He said I think he has migraines. All right. The head coach is GonNa know if his star running back is is dealing with something. So he alluded that there was something fishy going on there but with Kamera I, mean I think it was Tom Palo Sarah of NFL network who had the tweet where he's like Alvin Kamara plans to practice tomorrow he got an epidural shot in his back they were close to a deal, but then they hit a snag and it was like the most dense. Oh my God was like fourteen different things but have the break down in this tweet. I. I, mean all of a sudden Adam schefter reports four days ago Alvin in Chimeras Miss Three practices, and it might be contract-related, and then all of a sudden we we haven't heard anything about the back but we do know he's coming off of a of an injury plagued year, and that's also probably part of the reason he's like man I better get my bag now because I was hurt all year and I played through it and they haven't rewarding yet. So there's a whole lot going on here. But for team gearing up for the Super Bowl I think Alvin Kamera's get paid and I think it's happening soon. anything else? I mean. Denzel mims back practicing. You know there's some whispers out there about Prasada. Perriman might not sound that great any other news that we need to discuss right now as of when we're recording this so Not, really the Param one, I mean Sam darnold going to be thrown into a mash unit. Again, appreciate permanents unhealthy Denzel mims hasn't gotten a lot of work, Jamison crowder and Chris Herndon they're going to get a Lotta Targets Chris. Aren't in one of my favorite late around tight ends by the way which I'm sure we're about to get into. Yeah. So here's what's next. All right, and this is presented by draft gangs because these are Joe's official drafting tips for the twenty twenty NFL season whether it season-long, we'll get into some specific draft kings. Stuff but I I basically want. Your I mean Joe you probably have written down is it ten commandments? Is it three commandments? Is it five? Do you know how many you got I got about five Ross The five commandments of Joe Dolan drafting and twenty twenty presented by draft kings, which Natalie's America's number one rate sportsbook, APP, and use the Code Ross for all your dreams come true. But also. They have the best DFS APP out there as well. I got both on my phone. All right, Joe. Joe's number one commandment go. All right Ross this a by the way I only have five commandments because my dad used to love the movie The ten. Commandments and I would cringe every time. He put that damn thing on because it's fourteen hours long and it was in the vhs thing like it came with like the four vhs tapes you need a forklift to take that thing off the shelf and my dad always watch it. It's a terrible movie. It's all a man anyway. So let's let's let's abbreviate the commandments a little bit first and foremost I'm going back to an old school commandment here running back early and there are absolutely ways to play contrarian. Go Zero RV and win and fantasy football. It can be done. It can be done every year it was harder last year because we had a really. Kind of an anomaly type of season because they weren't really all that many running backs that got hurt and kind of put these superstar waiver wire types. In the LINEUPS. That's probably not going to happen again with specially with this weird off season but. Running back early there I it's. It's it's as good in the first two rounds as it has been in a long time and if I don't get running back I feel good about in the first two rounds I feel like I'm going to be drafting from behind and the reason is simple because the market has has adjusted to such become sharp where the healing options. Are. Going in those first couple rounds and then once you start getting into the third fourth and fifth rounds those running backs, there's there's major questions about them wonder for net was going in the third round. Okay. He was going into the third round at if as we as we talked last week on this podcast one four, it was the third round, pick the Jaguars cut. All all the writing on the board on the wall was the Jaguars want nothing to do with this guy and because of perceived value and because of the perceived value, the running back position he was going in the third round because all the appealing options were already gobbled up. Okay. Now we've got todd Gurley lady on Bell. These guys are going in that third fourth round range. These are just not. The Guys WanNa build your fantasy team around. So if you really want to hammer running back you better damn well get one in the first or second round so that it's an old school running back amendment but running back running back is as viable start at this year as it's been in quite a long time, it is a great reason to start running back and Ross that ties into my second commandment. Which is the third fourth and fifth rounds or your wide receiver routes. Look at some of the receiver coming off the board Alan Robinson ninety seven catches would slob quarterback last year Adam feeling legitimate shot to lead the NFL in targets breakout players like decay metcalf, consistent options like Tyler Lockett Dj Shark who's the number one receiver on a team that's going to be abominable this year Terry. McLaren along breakout candidate, Hollywood Brown, a young breakout candidate, all these appealing names I'm getting excited talking about these names whereas you look at the running backs going in the same round and I'm like. Oh I guess I need to take on because I don't have one. I'm older my nose while I'm doing it. So an like I understand like everybody looks to be contrarian at some point and there's ways to win while doing that. But these rounds you want to hammer receivers this round, I'm not leaving the third fourth and fifth round without dropping at least two wide receivers it is they are beautiful Robert Woods supercop. These guys are all there and you're going to get multiple of these guys. It's just I don't know it's like free money for me. It's like it. It's how you need to build your team. Those are the me rounds for the wide receivers commandment number three Joseph. It's it's a tried and true one wait on your quarterback and look Patrick Mahomes. There's there's ways to build a winning fantasy football team if you draft. Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson in the second round but it's it's a spot where I'm more comfortable with some of these late round guys I have three main mid round targets and occasionally a Shawn Watson and a Kyle Murray will slip into the sixth and seventh rounds were I'm going to start dabbling in those guys but my three main targets and talked about this on the tears of Dolan. QUARTERBACKS PODCASTS are Josh Allen if you want to go for all upside. Matt. Ryan. If you WANNA go for all just of floor and Carson, Wentz if you kind of want to bridge the gap between those two, those are my three main mid round quarterback targets typically, WANNA leave my draft with one of those three guys. and. It's up to you which one you want. You know maybe if you have an all kind of floor team where you're like, well, I got Calvin Ridley and tyler bullied and I got these guys are going to catch a lot of passes but I want some wants a spot on my team. Then I'll drive the Josh. Meanwhile, I have Hollywood Brown and Terry McLaren and Mile Sanders and these are all high upside breakout guys but things could go awry. I'm going to draft Matt Ryan. So and if you're in between, you can draft Carson Wentz but those are my three main quarterback kind of commandments here I mean my three main quarterback targets. That those middle rounds is where I really wanted to attack the quarterback and and that's that's one thing. I. If you WanNa hire and quarterback like a Shawn Watson Dak Prescott. I always compare it to the old pornography analogy. You know when you see it and if the rest of the board, all your targets in the fifth and sixth around at wide receiver are gone. And you're like man, I don't like any of the receivers or the running backs here. That's what I think I can endorse switching over to the quarterback tab and pull in the draft button on like Dak Prescott. Commandment. Number four Mr Dolan. It's a great year to go dumpster diving. It's tight end position and very rarely do I say this but I really like some of these late round tight ends this year and I'm not saying like if you don't get one of the top four and that's that's kiddle Kelsey. IRKS and Mark Andrews Erz and Andrews by the way have been slipping into the fifth round, which is pretty appealing to me at the stage. But if I don't get one of those big for more inclined to wait like four or five rounds and then go to get a TJ Hopkinson plus Janis Smith's or an Eric Ibrox plus a rob Gronkowski. Go with Chris Herndon with any of those guys because I really liked Chris. Herndon this year go even later grabbing Herb Smith. Robert Tanya N- you know. Blake Darwin, there are so many. Athletic, tight end options available in the later rounds that are super appealing to me this year and I think if you take kind of a shotgun approach said, take three of these guys put two of them on my bench and I know one of them's going to hit I think that is a completely viable strategy, this year Ross last but not least the fifth of the Dolan Five Commandments for fantasy football drafting in two thousand Twenty Mayor Defense Your last pick and using early season schedule. There is no reason to draft the defense in the top top ten rounds of a fantasy drafts ridiculous there no, I mean I can't tell you the last time the projected number one fantasy defense actually finished number one when you're drafting your defense. Go look at the first two to three weeks of the season. Go look at somebody like Indianapolis, who has a nice opening run of games. Or even somebody like Philly who plays Washington in week one and draft that defense get a good matchup right off the bat and then worked the waiver wire. Why blow a draft pick on a defense that oh man. I'm going to drop this defense they're going to be a great defense oh us. Oh, they play Kansas City we have to drop them right away. Don't do that stuff. Just use it on an even if you think a mediocre Defense Goto an early season schedule that's appealing that's the best way to play in in fantasy football and that hasn't changed in a long time. Best. Way To get a free Madden Code, if you're interested is to either get draft King sportsbook APP on your phone whether you're in a state, it's legalized or not yet put in the code Ross. So you get the deposit bonus if you are legal or you have it in there for when your state does go legal and then forwarded to me the screen shot Ross at Ross Tucker dot com. Then we also have fantasy points code feast time get you WanNa give yourself a shot this year. Give yourself a legit shot get with Joe. He's a fun guy get the twitter handle prove at FG underscore Dolan give. Fantasy points shot you will not regret it. They're all STUDS, I'm friends with like all them. Hanson and album obviously, Joe, do it fantasy points dot com code feast or drafting sportsbook you can throw back you our other ones in there and then send it to me Ross at Ross Tiger Dot com. I will pick someone to win a free man code first one was on tomorrow's Ross Tucker football podcast. So you'll love it. You'll also love Greg cosell today talking about some of these same players on the raw soccer football podcast. Oh, than that. Totally stopped back to back with fun. Guy. Dolan. I. Think we're done here. Thanks for listening to the fantasy feast podcast. 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Jersey Mike's 2 with Jon Daly

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Jersey Mike's 2 with Jon Daly

"This is a head. Gum podcast hedo. Fam- i wanna take a moment to tell you about another podcast. You may enjoy your been shocked by something you've found in a friend's fridge does the ratio the dreaded ratio of takeout containers to homemade meal. Say something about who you are if someone has four bottles of ranch dressing in their fridge a guilty does it. Make the more or want to call the cops. There might be more truth to the saying. You are what you eat than we've ever thought before on the podcast green eggs and dan with our friend. Dan doot who's an actor writer restaurant or and comedian featured on netflix's cobra kai great show on the forthcoming kevin. James series the crew. Dan talks with comedians writers actors and chefs about what they love most food and how it plays a role in their lives. 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A rash of feature laden over designed gadgetry board game adaptations of existing video games and derivative card games with random and or lord sensibilities all of which raised millions whether a finished product was delivered or not. But there's an anomaly. Among the smart grills and cards against humanity clones named things like bears versus babies. A feature films starring written and directed by hollywood sitcom actor zach braff in twenty thirteen scrub star. Braff launched a kickstarter for a self self-financed film to runaway success inspiring subsequent kickstarter by hollywood. Ip like veronica. Mars and mystery science theater three thousand. The next year he released his kickstarter funded film. Wish i was here to middling reception. The film story centered on underemployed. Actor whose financial straights mean. He can no longer afford to send his kids to a fancy private school forcing him to school them. Public school bizarrely considered unthinkable failed to connect with audiences despite their emotional and financial investment but that investment was all predicated on the rapturous reception of graphs previous director. Oriel outing his two thousand four film about a different underemployed actor who meets manic pixie. Dream girl and learns. He doesn't need a psychiatric medication. After all while often mocked for its earnestness and college freshman mixed tape soundtrack. The film was critically praised at the time and was genuine. Indie hit at the box office and a central character in this film is the titular location which brass character returns home. The garden state new jersey and its new jersey where in nineteen seventy-one a seventeen year old. Peter canco purchase the jersey shore. Sandwich shop where he worked with financial help not from kickstarter but rather a substantial personal loan from his high school football coach. Ken crows ambition and acumen helped. Grow the single shop into a small chain and nineteen eighty-seven a franchise. Its wheels greased by the mix of red wine vinegar and olive oil dubbed the juice. That's doused on it subs by two thousand fourteen. The year wish i was here hit theaters. The chain had seven hundred fifty locations. And i'm like brass quixotic directing career. This garden state original found even greater success thereafter. Today with over fifteen hundred locations and counting this week on boys. We return to jersey. Mike subs welcome to the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm nick wider along with my co-host buzzes. Girlfriend wolf the spoon and mike mitchell. So what i'm buzzes. Girlfriend wolf buzzes girlfriend wolf. The line from the movie the line from home alone now. This episodes coming out in january but a christmas movie probably on james wsb brain. Who sent that in record. Of course. I didn't like the roast. It was that was that was like one of the producers sons in a wig right for that for for buzzes girlfriends. Yes because the director didn't want to. He didn't want to be like. Oh this this little girl is ugly. So he's like oh we'll we'll do. It will put a wig on a boy. Yeah good move. Yeah but i am. Pedro sam and like it. Yeah james w also rights. Do you guys have any memorable. Favourite kids meal toys from back. In the day. I have fond memories of the men in black toys from burger king when i was a kid james w that is not the purpose of the rose spoon man email. So don't try to sneak a bag question. i stress. nice try answer it you liked when. Hbo did like the hong toys at at mcdonalds right. Yeah that was an arby's we're combo arby's okay. Yeah but anatomically correct. I just finished. Madman am a little behind on the series. A d'andre bit of rascal. He has a reputation for some rascal. Like behavior on behind on this. I know too late tick but yes. He's a little bit of rascal. Yeah kind of a scoundrel a rake if you will but with some redeeming qualities. Yes yeah yes still. Like roger as well the bo- both both likable knowledge. I'm monitoring same thing. I'm watching sopranos with my mom for her time. I've seen it before very exciting. very exciting. rewatch very exciting. This show that to somebody. For the first time. I'd be interested in review watching sopranos and seeing what i what might take was. Hey there you go. May we got a little mini series. Dope brando's sweaty. I've actually never seen this soprano. So i would do that. I'mma is a good show. It's quality great. show. Yeah i mean. I don't like how it encourages mob violence. But i like that stuff. No it glamorizes the mafia. I think that's wrong. Prime is a sin. Crime is a sin. Yes why do you make your big big announcement been made yet or not. Yes this episode will be out in january and peo people will know that i shall not eat meat this year that i am going. Veggie for twenty twenty one and i also have announcement. Yes i shall be going all meet this year. Wow not a veggie. Uh-huh no veggies allowed. The jordan peterson diet. Yeah almost almost killed him. I was deciding on which way i should go. I should go on a vegan this year to try to top you but i felt like the meat thing was more believable. We impressed if you commit to it. I'm a hey mitch making announcements. Here's a big one. You know this past tuesday on the boys double our patriot episode. We had a contest called the drop off. In fact the entire episode was dedicated to the drop off. You me emma and our associate producer the drop king rubber persinger judged a bunch of drops ten drops that were sent in and picked one ultimate winner and that winner. Who won the golden ticket award for best drop gets their drop played on this episode. That is their pro. Are you trying to take control of the drops. I control the drops. Nobody can control the drops. Just i'm just setting this up and giving some context you to everyone who listens to the show. Has the puck patriarch on. You just had your little. I'm the captain now moment with me. And that's bullshit. While i am the captain now. You're not always been the captain the captain now. That's fucking bullshit. I'm the captain. Now look at me. I'm the captain. You're not the captain. I the i'm the captain. I'm the captain now and i'm going to say how to spoon nation. You can't do that more like captain crunch. I'm not captain crunch your captain kirk. Either cap'n crunch now more like a captain lunch. I don't know you're right all right. Let's play the drop then. Likes here we go. Here's a little drop drop winner. Lost not fast as quincy screen spin aids whole lot. Wow that one yeah. That was the best of the bunch. That's what a shitty contest. Here's my attempt at killing any goodwill. I may have earned with the drop. That had my two year old son on vocals in case in case the lyrics and aren't entirely understandable. I tried here. They are drives in silence with his thoughts. People think he's a robot even likes his salads. Hot it's why in love. He's not fat. he's quincy sized fuck you. He's got lovely squinty eyes. mafias him. chris oven fries. I'm spoon man. I'm in love. Platinum plate club is where we celebrate but spooning always shows up late whole thing. And that's it ben. Ben was the winner. The cure doboy zweig. I'm in love. That's the winner of the drop off. But why this is another turn. I think we should flush this thing. Yeah i think the world of the winner of the golden turn deserves the same fate as all other turns. Let's let's flush it emma there. It goes for guests. This podcast is turned into like a drive time. Radio talk show six well. Hey we're thrilled to have them in any in any event why did you did. You take your vaccine. The co vaccine. Yeah the well podcasters get it. I as you know mayor. Garcetti in here in. La has classified ad. This is true podcasters as essential workers. That's true though it is. It's true we are when it is legal for us to do whatever we need to do to conduct our business because we are essential. Apparently that's the local economy. So yeah we got we got vaccine we get to the front of the line got vaccines but i pushed a nurse aside. I pushed aside. I wasn't. I wasn't going to the vaccine. I just saw one on. The street pushed her over. Why does the world deserve the cure. I tell you what it certainly deserves the cure as referenced in that drop the robert smith cure. That's true that's very true. And you know what maybe things will go back to normal high. I mean even though it didn't add nothing changed for ton of astra's across the world so who cares who cares. Hey you know speaking of a musicians jazzy tunes Hey we got a great guest today. An actor comedian and musician from kroll show. And his new album abracadabra allah -fornia is available. Now john daly john. Thank you for coming back butchered. Thanks so much for having me. Yeah abracadabra -fornia yeah abracadabra -fornia took butchered. I'll say again. His new album abracadabra -fornia bush available. Now dab ralph. Lauren wounded captain now. Oh gosh it. Hey we. I shouldn't say we don't care. We care about everyone who's been affected by. But i got my head just second ago but i don't worry about that you're fine. No one thought that. Thanks for making that clear. Actually maybe some people did take that at face value. It seems we do have a lot of listeners. Either like or understand jokes. Yes not know that this is. I mean it's barely a comedy podcast. Anyway so don't is that on us might be more on us. Fuck fucking world gone. Yeah what we're talking about what we're on this topic long enough. This this lockdown has been long enough where this is your second quarantine episode. Which is it's it's staggering. That enough time has passed where. We're doing this a second time crazy. Yeah how wha-. When was the first one april or something like that. Yeah we were still having fun was that we were having quarantine fun. I was like footloose and fancy free. At that point. I was just like this is going to be two weeks do but yeah. It's been rough. Everyone's going crazy Yeah it's it's pretty it's it's been pretty gnarly but you're hanging in there. I assume i'm hanging in there. Yeah i got my dog elliott. Get trying to get out of town. The lockdown is rough. There are drones. Machine gun rounds. That will shoot. you know. it's like it. Hit some new level of of scariness today. Like of lockdown weirdness with. Garcetti didn't yes. Yeah according in december and so as of this date were recording it. The mayor in la released this this long like rambling statement that was like twelve typed pages explaining the lockdown or that made it sound like initially like no one was allowed to go outside for any reason and all these exemptions written in legalese this indecipherable legalese. Basically said that nothing was fundamentally changing and everyone can just still. Everyone's still has to go to work or whatever it is so fucking weird. Yeah yeah current health and human services. Yeah like yes secretary of the interior for mayor graham. Do you think do you think that do you think he did it. Just i mean. If i were there i would just i would make it so that no one could go outside except for me. I think that would be a fun abuse of power. Yeah and you just work out in public with service run around stretch really disgustingly somebody. Somebody put his. Imdb profile on twitter. The eric garcetti the mayor and he works more than a lot of actors. He's like it's like finneas verb all these been on so many shows as himself. Yeah just constant cameos. Yeah as gotta keep busy somehow. Yeah what else does he play. Yeah screaming at. The black lives matter protesters outside his house. I guess do you know. Do you know one of my first jobs in la. I was Governor of california gavin. Newsom wife jennifer. Cybele i think she made a. She made a movie that i was a pa on his current wife. His current wife. Yes yeah maybe the future first lady. Wow it's possible crazy. You stop eating at a fucking. Where was he the french laundry french laundry. Yeah everyone's gotta go to the french laundry and get caught right of passage. They're probably you're not coolness you get caught at the french laundry. Not social distancing. Why are we going to get up there and get ourselves cod. we gotta go. I mean we have permission. Tacit permission wailings permission as podcasters essential workers. We gotta get up there. You could call it a chain restaurant. There's been a chain of politicians who've been connor. There would be some sort of like red or a red light. I was at least a yellow light to be like. I probably shouldn't go to the french laundry. The place where everyone is getting caught. You would think so. But i i don't know i mean i think there's just a brazenness powerful just you can't i think you you're you're unable to see what you're like. You're unable to even understand what you're doing. Both like like the ethically and then also the optics of it. I think you're so insulated from that that you don't know what that anything is wrong until someone criticizes you for it. Yeah i don't know it's it's it's bizarre. It's bizarre to me. I would think if i was the person who is giving the ordinance and saying that everyone has to do this. I would be the person who most of all wants to those rules like like i would. I would think that's a. That's a total lead by example moment. But i guess. A lot of people aren't wired that way it'll be tough because that's you just come off like a huge ass door and so i kind of want to cool man cool like president. The laws recommendations demonized doctors doctors are losers now the worst. Yes threaten their wives daily. I wanted to ask you something. This is a topic we've never discussed not on pod writing think irl. I don't think we've discussed as any context but you are a sax man. You're a saxophonist. i'm a sack man. A single read sax player. Tyree cool double reed. I'm not a double reed. Yeah that's that's those are more difficult and require a larger amount of breath control than the single reason. I would say i mean i but i single real sacks got a cool sound it's ju- sack sounds cool as hell and i did actually play saxophone. I play you know i. I started in the single read world before expanding to include double read. So i started on clarinet and they played alto sax and for a time i played alto sax and berry sacks though i dabbled in all of the saxes and play and they picked up a soon ultimately. But you're you're from from pictures. I alto man. I'm an alto man for the purposes of that is what i was raised on and singing and performing and doing like having a baritone is a little rough or tenor. Rather either tenders pretty big to a baritone they they sound the best i would say bertone's are great sounding. That low range really really beautiful but alto saxes of just so portable. That of just makes sense. But i just went on a short tour with a band man man that had a real saxophone player and what i realized is that the saxophone is just as infinite or just maybe this is true of reed instruments or some a lot of horns or something but like the waited he plays it is. He sings notes with his throat. So he's singing at the same time as playing a note so within those two things you can do so you can do almost infinite musical things with saxophone. Which i didn't really realize like he was going for a like with voice and then kind of like harmonising his voice and then dissonance voice with his the notes that he was playing on the saxon therefore bending those notes but also harmonizing with them in a certain way through like an electrified miked sacks and that was pretty incredible guys as for any questions about sex. That's an advanced technique is cool. Yeah school you made it sound much cooler than two. By the way. Who's who's a doctor dr dork. When he described dr dork doctor or give the vaccine fucking the vaccine when the doctor. When you're getting a little one the doctors feeling your ball for a lump wives. Fucking reggie wedgie that bitch when he's bent over doctored dork. Tumors you imagine that. Probably some some four. I'd brainiacs who are perhaps a little bit you know maligned in middle school ultimately went the path and they finished medical school and they became like you know a general practitioner who became a doctor. They're saving lives. And then they end up in a situation where bully fucking wedgies them. How what how defeated the crushing that moment be. You know what. I'm going to say to them. Nah not so past. They can get away with it if not yeah. There's no escape. So what did you. when did you get into saxophone. Though do you start playing as a kid i did. I started on piano. And then i kind of took up the sax in fourth grade and had this sacks and then in high school i had like a school sacks in the high school my parents bought me a like some sort of saxon i had that and then i started and i stopped doing band like junior and senior year of high school and then just when i was kind of in new york just like take it out sometimes and play an improvised and kind of just learned how to improvise badly but still kind of you can kind of make a sex out really good not yang super good at it. But now i've i've just practiced enough that. I can play a lot of stuff and it's it's fun like it a lot. Yeah so. I'm making an album Next year every song has sax solo in it so that role different kinds of songs funny songs and in all sex based. Yeah that's awesome. Yeah that's the gimmick. Yeah that's a boy. The the people who can really just solo in with a saxophone. It's it's just like it's such an awesome sound that some of my favorite music to listen to is like you know. He put on some sonny rollins or some cannonball adderley or d is someone who just dexter gordon. Somebody can just like fuck in like sustain a solo and make that into its own thing. I'm just like fuck. I love this. And i love just to kind of have it in the background while i'm doing something recipes roy moore wags from dave matthews band. That's right great saxophonist. Santa cruz is was he. They're dropping like flies. Sorry those terrible terrible thing to say but people. Because i'm not really a fan of the music. Remember about dave matthews band members dying. He he was an eight. It was an atv accident which Which has killed sadly. I know it's killed a couple of celebrities. Been an atv accident very sad. Not nothing fun here. Why sorry to go down this path. But that's how we osborne had a year attraction from an atv accident or something. Yeah they're really deeply dangerous. Yes yeah but pretty cool cool. Cool cool is how. You'll never see a doctor on one of those things. No dr dorks. And he's not sure. Bush sure nobody's ever died on these things. I hold my beer. Your still you have a saxophone story of your own. Don't you just remembering this saxophone. I played i sadly played. I just remember playing the simpsons theme song on my saxophone for my grandparents like and i remember just thinking that they were all thinking about how they only had a few years left to live. And we're listening to this occurred to you during the solo. I remember as a boy like being like this is like disappointing and bad. Like when you're a kid and you're like yeah and you're in like it's at point where you're like you see older. It happened to me a couple times. I remember my sister had a birthday. And the greens down the street. I've i think i've told this story but we we've said everything on the podcast. But i told a joke for my sister's birthday like on a video like we did like a video and i remember like my my sister's friend's dad being like i don't get it and i was like oh like the cuteness is like like like this Edo people aren't putting up with the cute guess anymore and that's the same thing that happened. When i was playing. When i was blowing into the saxophone it was like this thing of like three grand parents. Just watching me and you could just. You could feel that thing of like they don't like this. This is this is like. I'm like a pain in the ass to them right now. They're not enjoying miss. The cuteness has died is not working. And i held her died in that moment. You're probably like seven or eight. Right i was. I was probably a little bit older than that. I was probably like ten or eleven. Which makes sense that. It was like ok. Sure i'll get outta here. But i but i my saxophone teacher in fifth grade told me to quit he just he just. He started out to me. You should stop playing the saxophone and full Like what i mean. I think because they tell you they weren't into it or were they think a fifth fifth fifth grader. Now five years old. I was a fifth grader. And just wasn't doing well and i think not practicing enough in that he was just like you shouldn't play it anymore. That's he was. He was he was he was rough. He just told it was. I mean he was right but that's a it doesn't matter if he's right that's terrible the pursuit to tell a child that pursuit of something as worthless is ridiculous. That's like an eighty s like an early or late eighties early nineties. Thing that you probably you'd get fired for something on robot. Wetlands trump tough love thing right. Yeah i it's. It's so it's interesting i. I think that's the agreed with john. That's the wrong age for that. Approach of lying but i definitely. I had a saxophone teacher when i was fifteen or sixteen somewhere in that range. I was in high school and It was a great musician but he kind of had an attitude. Kind of be. Like you know if i could tell i didn't practice enough. Just be like lessons over like your practice and just send me home. I had a dickhead band teacher. To why did i did this guy. Mr paterson in carson middle school in north allegheny and pittsburgh. This guy was just a legend. Everyone talks about it. He was like so deeply main and he would do this thing after he would like comparis- to eighth grade band. Look we were sixth grade or whatever and he was like man you guys. You're all required to watch the eighth grade band tonight. You gotta stay. After you're part of the concert you gotta go into the seats. You gotta watch the eighth grade ban because man they're cooking. I don't know what you guys are doing. I don't know if you guys and after one concert like our christmas concert or whatever he goes he goes. Yeah yeah sometimes he just like comes in. And there's like a heavy silence while everyone files an sits down takes out their horns and he's just like clicking his like stick on his fucking music stand and he just looks at us. And you know sometimes i just wish i had a crossbow and because i don't want a gun because it makes too much noise but shredded crossbow. I could take you out from the podium. Play a bad in. He made a girl cry during the speech and he was like well. I guess she needs to cry. Chris sociopathic an evil person. As your wild. And it was such a and he would he would take out his trump. he was amazing. He was a very good trump rattler and played in several bands in pittsburgh and stuff and he would like go. Here's how you do it. Like for every instrument he would take out his trumpet and play the the the kind of like timing out of things for us and like show off during it and then yeah and it was just like. Oh wow and then. I got the high school and i was like. Oh my god music. Teachers sometimes are just nice people that are hippies. Total nazis like that crossbow thing will never forget and he also like people would forget their clarinet at home and come into the class crying and he was like oh man. I guess like like a couple of times. He showed a little bit of like feeling because he did something terrible but man he was he was rough man rough stuff. Why one of a week now arly. Whatever week now. We hear the john's been killed by a crossbow. God for for doing that. You would also go. There's a restaurant in pittsburgh called rico's he'd go. I'm you guys are wasting my time. I could be taken my family to rico's rico's with math kid. I of like them now. That i'm back on board. He's a good dude. Shout out to. Mr patterson i won't. I won't docs my teacher's last name but he But mike my saxophone teacher this. This is a story kind along those lines. But my a friend arthur also had. Mike is a saxophone teacher and he came to school once. And he was like his kinda bummed. He's like. Mike told me. I played like i never touched a tit. Go touch some tits. That is what grade were you in. I was like i was like six fifteen or sixteen so he was like a year younger than me so he was like he was fourteen or fifteen. She's as criteria. Oh my god but again amaze a great amazing musician. I mean that's a lot of music. Educators are just you know in instrumental and voice or just like fucking amazingly talented. It's just so hard to make a living so so let me ask you this just to stick on the topic rumor. Second how do you like like okay. You're playing a wind instrument Do you have anything any foods or drinks that you you you try to avoid or is there does. That is your are your consumption habits at all informed by. I'm gonna play the saxophone in a half hour. Well interesting i think you just. I think it's the same as singing like you. Just don't want to have dairy basically makes sense and that's kind of and then you just kind of blow if you just kind of like sit and play sacks i just play it backstage and blow warm air through it and do all the ritual then just kind of get into it but i clean my mouth out with something. Like water or seltzer coffee. There's a lot of coffee drinking but anything's cool as long as it's not just like you know milky yeah. You don't want that nick spit. That's tough can ruin your nick and i we. We make sure to drink a glass of milk before every podcast. We record right now yeah. Some people's mouth is like glued together and they just like unglue it and start their podcast with just so many spit clicks all the like every. Click here yeah so gross. That's that's that's seems like npr's i thought it was a good microphones or something. I i just thought it was better microphones ours. Because i feel like i have a lot of spit in my mouth. People should hear that right when we talk nick. But i don't. I don't hear it from you really you don't you. Don't have that. Likes like spitting from you guys. And i listen to the podcast and the only time when you take a bite of food and i can tell that you've taken a bite of food and you're trying to talk. That gets that same thing activated but other than that you guys are. And if you think about like terry. Gross like in terms of pure might control. It's a mirror like she's genius just the just the smoothness and like think about like listening to some podcast or whatever and you know you guys are professional performance so you have a different level but like something about terry gross cleanliness on the mike is so just like it's amazing to me out. It's amazing like it's almost inhuman in a certain way it's going to make us so like terry gross from here are now what the fuck what could increase the microphone budget by a couple grand and we'll be there all right. Yeah okay forget it. I wonder so. Let me ask you this. Because we're talking about a sandwich chain this week and pittsburgh i we've talked about permit. He's with you a couple of times before. I think the sandwich place that people think of which you know he did. I think we've we've talked about how maybe more for tourists but yes but but sandwich sandwiches general in the steel city or if you just want to talk into sandwiches at large like like where do you. Where do you land with your sandwich preferences. Wow about sandwiches at large. What the hell. Yeah in general. Yeah pittsburgh the permitting brothers sandwich with the fries. Like i grew up in pittsburgh did not grow up eating sandwich with fries. I don't think anybody really did. That's right Pittsburgh's more of a like you can get pirogies at bars and stuff like that like But you know it might have changed out of that. I you know. I haven't lived there in a while. I but was national. I you know. I love fat cells Jerry ferrara from entre turtle from entourage place west hollywood. That is a great sandwich place like no joke and then a grandma onless feels boulevard. Gra melda 'as i think it's Gremaldi scrim aldis is what it is and that is like what subway or Jersey mike's or any of these places is trying to be which is a real authentic. Italian like there's only one gram grimaldis. No gremaldi is a pizza place in brooklyn anyways. Yeah it's gm gm Sorry jim ellis. Right it's right in the beginning of water. Yeah water village louisville boulevard in los angeles but those places are really good. I love a i guess. Hamburgers don't count as sandwiches. i love. Yeah and there's there's a place that is pretty good called wax paper frog town here. All their sandwiches are unfortunately named after. Npr personalities so you can get like a david brancaccio and you can get a cairo's doll or something like that. And it's like kaiser roll but aside from that they have some good. Yeah there's a little sweaty name single one. I don't know if they have a terry gross. Because that's not a great name for a sam leg terry again. Yeah you're right. this is sandwiches. Poop and pee. terry gross. I believe the waxed paper people. Listen to the pod. Y i think they listened to true. Yeah show about sorry about insulting your sandwich names to change them. There's made the sandwiches or great. The sandwiches are really fantastic sandwiches. They are especially their tuna sandwich. It's it's really incredible. I like all about. I like all about the bread. Yes but i meant to say potato chip kelly. I like a lot to bread potato chip deli and then of course wags look. We'll say it for you. The godmother down there at a bay cities yes. We're talking about a lot of l. A. local places for those you elsewhere in the country or the world but these are all about. The bread is kind of the considered suspicious. Something of a clone of bay cities delhi in santa monica. Which famously has the godmother which is just a loaded like italian sub. That is what one of the best things you can get to eat in the city. It's funny is that that bread and you know what the best sandwiches are though in. La are the the sandwiches at the shop on large locked. It's always got a line out the door. this is very la conversation but those are actually just. The bread alone is a so wonderful. Yeah it's session obnoxious sounding place larchmont wine and cheese but fucking fantastic sandwiches. If you go in there you go there. Get two nights fantastic but i say this we can be specific and local because when it comes to the national conversation there's not many wives we watch eli's which subways quiz nose and quiz knows he can barely find anymore. What am i. Missing earwax wag. Subways pop quiz. Wizner might jersey. You've you've also got the firehouse subs virus it up. And coming chain that is had The disgruntle grown lot When i was visiting my parents in pittsburgh i had let me let me con Figure out what this there was a really good someplace but go ahead. Sorry east coast here in in quincy at like i feel like there's blimpy's that's another one. There's like twelve a dozen s blimpy's there's like a dozen places in quincy though that so many places on the east coast just like the local pizza place makes sub sandwiches emma noses and johnny probably remember this from back in the day but just i've said this on the podcast a million times it's just everywhere make sandwiches and then i got deangelis here to wives but nationally i feel like the sandwich game like the the the sandwich to chain was kind of at a low point subway kinda took over for a while and it was it was it was pretty it was pretty it was pretty shitty and then i feel like firehouse subs in Has been around for a long time. But kind of making i feel like it's maybe expanding a little bit or they're making inroads nationally regional chains. They're they're expanding. Its we missed a couple in the top in the top. Five one of them is jimmy. Johns which we know we do jimmy. Johns a big one. This one i don't i don't mind jimmy. Johns obviously john and the man seems like a scumbag shuvalov these days. Okay yeah But the the the other one which is just behind number one is subway number two jersey. Mike's which are about to review but the third biggest chain in the Sandwich chain apparently is schlotzky's. I had no idea. Has that big of a presence. Yeah no excuse around here. I don't even know. If i've been to a schlotzky's i know of it. But i don't think i've ever been to one. I've been to one maybe an arizona That if that's right. If there if there are any in arizona. But i have not been one around here. I'll say this. I eat a salad for lunch but sandwiches a big sandwich favorite lunch. How can you be a nice big sandwich. It's true lunch. Also on also on the sandwich list i should mention. Arby's is on there which i guess qualifies as a sandwich not a traditional sandwich. Okay portillo's which is a more regional but there are locations gray around the nation. This one this is an interesting one for the top sandwich. Rankings that this is included. Weiner schnitzel the hot dog chain. Why do we have to get into it. We're hotdog which hotdogs way what they might be sandwiches. I don't know. I mean if i'm going by this article then yet it definitely again we are. Let's leave it to the internet to work. It out settled. It has shag our hot dogs sandwiches. Let's answer it. Let's be the ones who tackled this mitch sandwich. Your sandwich preps what we're gonna sandwiches. We've talked about this a lot on the show but refresh everyone. What do you look for on a big sandwich. Look when it comes to the big sub sandwich if we're talking to submarine sandwich a hoagie as you will. I gotta go with. My favorites are an italian sub sandwich or sandwich. The steak and cheese is one of my favorites too. So those those those those are my two favorite hot and cold is the is the steak and cheese in the in the italian. Yeah i get all sandwiches. Mike's way mike's mike's way yup i got today. I got three different subs from jersey. Alex yeah well. Let's get into it jersey. Mike subs was first opened in nineteen fifty-six in point pleasant new jersey. The chain was acquired by young peter. King crow in nineteen seventy four and now has a gross special sandwich on the menu they began franchising in one thousand nine hundred seven and now have over fifteen hundred locations nationwide daily. You get these three sandwiches in front of you. But his jersey. Mike's a place you patronized in the past. Yes i liked. Hersey makes a lot. Why generally i really like it. Yeah i don't really like it but if it's if it's an option i'll take it a lot on the road. I'm driving up up a highway or by way i will. Yeah no i. I had a subway period. My life it was like at a temp job in new york city for a couple years where i would go into subway like i probably like two hundred times so many subway sandwiches and it's great and then when quizzed came out i was like thank god. This is really good. But i also feel like thin. Gradients weren't much better than subway. They were just toasting the ingredients and so that makes it tastes better period but jersey. Mike's is it is like a cut above those now. I think it kind of is i think it's i think it's a suburb. Above is that. Is that their tagline. Wait that's there. It's a sense of god how it's a sub above. That's a fun thing to say. It's a up above. It is under. Say i so quickly vacillated from that's so clever mitch. A above to being like oh wait. That's just their tagline. And now you're mad at me. Yeah they take away all that credit i gave you but hell i love jersey. Mike's i will say i will app very good. There's a jersey. Mike's close to where we live in so it was. It has been covert staple for me. It's just like if. I want a quick lunch. It's very easy to order in the app. They're super nice. They're they're pickup situation. As is great. And when i was eating meat i loved the jersey. Mike's italian sandwich. That is a really good italian. Starting you yeah. This is This is a two thousand twenty. One thing i'm doing. I'm doing all veggies. Saying what yes. Yeah okay well. Congratulations yeah. We'll we'll see how it works out. Yeah it's gonna be a journey going to start sleeping. I mean just like eating every day and a half like people are doing every day and a half and then. I skipped two days every two weeks or something like that. That's the new thing having an eating disorder. Eating intermittent fasting is. And i think what it is. Yeah i've been doing some windows. Eight hours of eating. Which i think is like almost normal but like yeah eating for a day. I feel like just doesn't seem right. But i guess some people think it does something to your body gets a kick started or whatever but i. It seems kinda crazy to me. I listened to the to our buddy. everybody's singer in eugene's podcast the Which is a great counterweight to the the doe boys because it's it's very fitness oriented and they talk about their you know there's a lot of discussion about You know intermittent fasting on that show and one point they were talking like a like having a four hour fasting window likely eating between four pm and eight pm as and i was just like i cannot. There's no way i can you. God bless you. But there's no way i could possibly function. I had short of a window to put food my body. No i need to eggs in the morning. I need like protein in the morning. Or else i flip out but i guess if you just kind of get into the rhythm of that then it's a different thing. I don't think it's an eating disorder. I just think if you want to be shredded you. That's what you kind of thing that you have to do. it's like getting like vein popping lee shredded. I think that's the that's the thing you have to do. But that being in that condition is not also like it's a certain way to be but it's not necessarily the healthiest thing to do seeming but allows you to dominate dominating. I mean you're you're a dominant alva- jed and there's not a doctor. You want to dr gorka. His place in good shape and we're mass. Yes i think people are. I think i. I think people are going to be pretty surprised when they see me out of after quarantine i think they're going to be surprised by australian imax. Yeah hewlett great great and then laugh quietly into the mike you just said look great laugh. Laugh a piece of shit. You look great. But you're i get the joke that you're making what the hell i'm saying. What the hell a lot lately. What the hell. why am i saying. What the been watching. Maybe a little two minutes to many simpson. I've been i've been on the simpsons wash lately wags maybe that's what it is bart's favorite might be it. Yeah bart bus out the damson. Hells a lot but once again. What the hell man. Why did you laugh. And he. I look great. Look great you do you were making a joke about being shredded. What if i do come out of quarantine looking shredded. I would be surprised. Yeah okay you start now you could you know quarantine is going to be at least until may you could actually point of being shredded weixin. I are gonna watch. We're gonna go back on tour right at some point. I mean once the world it's the world is permitted. You're gonna use this. You're gonna use cove as an excuse to not go on tour again until we end the show. Basically is my guess i. We'll see i'm open to more lives plan to end the show i wanted. I wanna go down to key west. Because i think it will be fun and i want to go to japan but why i don't know if he's on board with that. I want to travel not too much. But i'm but will again. The world has changed from the world that we used to know who knows what it'll be like on the other side bay. I'll probably be chomping at the bit to fucking get out of the five mile radius in which i've stayed for the past fucking nine months probably will wanna go someplace you know who my money Who my money is on for getting out of their more than you is. Old data probably wants to go out of their fear. God and lockup for you for like a year she's going to have an imprint Just like a hole in the door shaped like her. Like fucking roger rabbit coolest guy in prison. Who's like cellmates. keep you the cooler. Just something about that guy. The so i do like the jersey. Mike's app and this time. I went because i'm not eating meat. They only have one vegetarian option. On their sandwich menu by default. That's that is the veggie veggie which which i got on on rosemary parmesan bread. It's it comes with the fault with swiss provolone and greenbelt packers. And then if you get it. Mike's way which we talked about. That adds onions lettuce. Tomatoes red wine vinegar olive oil bland oregano and salt. They call the red wine vinegar and olive oil. Blend the juice. That's what they offer their. The jack santa gross gross. Yeah pretty gross. Yeah so you get the juice Fucking sprayed onto your your. Mike's way sandwich. I specify double cheese which one was will learn was a mistake on my part. But you know. I'll i'll generally get double meet back when i was eating meat so i got a got double cheese sandwich and then i added avocado mayo and banana peppers. Because i'm something of a heat. Seeker i will say that. This was a good sandwich. This was a very good sandwich. Wow the double cheese was too much. The double cheese was excessive. Can't tell if you're being sincere here. It seems that you have some hesitation. Saying it's it's a good sandwich. It's a good sandwich. I this is this is sincere. Was it melted cheese or just cheese no not melted now this cold subculture so it was. It was swiss and provolone where the cheeses and they were coal and and and having to like became more of a cheese sandwich than anything. So i i would. I would recommend if anyone tries the veggie to just get it with their regular amount of cheese. I do wish that they had had a little bit more on it by default. I wish it cures numbers or something. Just just give me. give me some sprouts. Even i don't know if mike has jersey. Mike's has sprouts as part of their default veggie selection. But it'd be great to have something else in there beyond just the green bell peppers and the cheese. But with the mike's way you know it was a very solid sandwich. And the rosemary promise on bread is nice. Little treat usually go wheat to try to do something. A little lighter or i'll will i will get the seven a tub. Which is there a low carb option which is pretty good I and it's like a salad with a bunch of handing it and it's just it's it's a salad version of any of their sandwiches. It works pretty decently versus what you can get like if it's a lunch order from jersey mike's and you're trying not to eat carbs. I'd rather be getting getting it from jersey. Mike's them from subway in terms of going to do it. It's a decent one of these sandwiches. Go sandwich places go but it was. I will say overall. It's a good sandwich. I just wish they had more veggie options and it was on their veggie sandwich. There were more vegetables. Mitch how about you. Let's get into your sandwich. Because i got nine items from jersey. Mike's start with. Let's start with sandwich. Let's start in sandwich. Now not nine subs to be clear but right so so for my sandwiches. I got one of my all time favorites wags which is the italian the original the original italian and even the sandwiches. You don't care much for the people you look. We've talked about this before kinetically galleons. i don't like italians. i'm watching. Sopranos is making me sick. I'm watching some to you. Yeah it's it's it's it's it's great. The first season is it's crazy that it feels like the first season feels dated of course was twenty plus years old but it's still so good but the later seasons don't feel as dated as the first seasons feels like the nineties and the the second the by the fifth season. I'm kind of like well. It really wasn't that different in two thousand three phone much phone wise. Yeah yeah what what happened. Nine eleven in the first. Yeah there you go. Nine eleven changed. That's what happened. you're saying. Yeah everything the nine th. The towers are in the opening to the soprano. It's ju- yup. Well hey i woke up this morning. And i got myself a sub. Why nice all right. I'll give you credit for that one unless that one is also on the jersey. Mike's bag jonah's it on that jersey. Mike's bag the bag. You know got myself a serbia off. I got i got. I got the regular size for the original italian which is pretty big. It's big it's big the the which which is good. Because when you let lengthwise it's not you don't that you're getting like a huge sub. It doesn't look it. It's not very long. But it's just it's substantial. They really they pack it in with the meats and stuff. It's it's it's a decent sandwich. You're not gonna go away unhappy. Or hungary so i commend them for that. Why do a good job got bill. Kaneko see something on this real quick just on non sizing. I would say if you're very hungry. Instead of opting for the large and this is this is not a play for the veggie. But if you are someone if you are eating meat if instead opting for the large get the regular and just double up your meat. It's cheaper and i think it's better composition than just adding that extra those extra four inches of bread. Wow gluco hey. Adding for instance sounds pretty good to me. I got mine with dill pickles. Cherry pepper relish banana peppers onions tomatoes lettuce salt oregano red wine. Vinegar olive oil blend and it was on white bread. A regular size. Want so i got it. Mike's way basically yes. Then i did I was trying to get a smaller version. And this is true on door dash people won't believe it and maybe they just don't do a smaller run for for these sandwiches but i got bake inch. I got a bacon ranch. Chicken cheese steak which is like a weird one. I've never had before with tomatoes. Lettuce ranch bacon in on. That was also on white bread. And i and i had to get a regular size of it wouldn't be let me get smaller one than the regular. This was okay. I feel like this was kind of like the loser of the bunch. But i do kind of appreciate that. They do chicken cheese sticks. I think it is a nice alternative. Yeah and like the sandwiches interesting to me. I didn't hate it. It was it was just. It was just fine. It was kind of like a chicken a chicken cheese steak. Be lt or something it was. It was decent and then i got for my mom. My mom wanted a cheesecake. I told her we're getting jersey. Mike's and she said. I want a cheese sticks taking forever. So i got our mike's famous philly philly cheese steak and i got the. I got the giant size of this which is huge. The giants is is really really big. And i got it without onions and peppers. Because i wouldn't want to be responsible for mother's tummy issues. So i took off the onions and peppers look was this at her request or you just anticipating no. We're how many issues okay. I know everyone thinks. I'm like norman bates now because i've been home. I'm not gonna fucking. I'm not gonna time my mom to a fucking chair not feeder and become a norman bates and where her wig wise. I'm not gonna do any of that. Shit for god's sakes okay. We're weirdly specific. That's what he doesn't psycho does. She doesn't have a wick. So you just wear clothes psycho pervert. I'm not gonna norman bates my mom is. This is what i'm saying. But i got it. I got no peppers and onions for. Because that's what you requested. They can her stomach. So we just got a straight up as straight as plain as you can get it a philly cheese steak and i have not dressed up like my mom. She's alive upstairs and she ate it and not well. I see she really enjoyed it. She really enjoyed this philly cheese steak and i took a bite of it and i was a believer. I'm a huge fan of of the deangelis steak and cheese. And i thought that this was was really good. Hurt her complaint and i agree with her. Is that the bread is just soft on a cheese steak. You almost want my kind of like a crispy or role. You know what. I mean like you want a little crispy. Here's the deal the next day because this is a giant there was still have of it left. Put it in the oven at three fifty heated. That bad boy up. It was fantastic in the break chris up. It was so good nice as a like for a reheated sandwich. Just the planes steak and cheese. It was so so so good it was maybe my favorite thing i it was. Maybe the bite of the night lives the reheated sandwich. The related sandwich. I i really. I really liked it. I also eight some of that Philly the the The chicken philly the bank and ranch cheese steak. And i just had that cold cold the next day and that did not work as well. I also got some coupons thereto which you are my favorite night. Some cooler industry does. And i got a A stubborn soda. Which is the their their brand that they have their root beer and that was good. It was a little sweet. It wasn't like the best rookie ear. And i don't know if anyone thinks it's the best beer but it did the job. It was a nice root ear. I had that title. Fc let me interrupt you mitch. Return two sides and beverages. And i wanna get i wanna get a t dailies trio of sandwiches and tackle those johnny at three boys. What did you get. Yeah well. I got the i wanted to get something. They've never gotten so. He got the chicken as well. The chicken philly cheese steak. I've gotten i've gotten the regular cheese steak but not the chicken. So i wanted to get the chicken and i say i gotta say well first of all let me just say umbrella on a on my statements. I'm not responsible for my mommy's tummy. And and how. Tommy feels so but anyway everyone can handle that fresh. I understand so that the hot sub. Yes so i got the okay. Yeah the chicken. It tastes like to me. It was like a hot pocket. It was like coming Got like some ingredient or chemical or preservative or something that is present also in hot pocket so it it just felt like coming home from high school and being like all right. I'm gonna like stuff this in my face and watch some dumb stuff on tv. It was very good. Yeah i'd rather just get the regular philly cheese steak. I think but the chicken was pretty good and doesn't necessarily necessarily seem lighter. I agree with mitch's mom on on the it be a little bit crispier just like fluffy bread. So it's kind of which which which i'll give him credit for like on the italian. That works really well. Like i like soft bread on the italian but for a hotter sandwich i wish they they. They have hot sandwiches there but they don't toast they're bred right. Nick that's not an option to ever get toasted right. It's just the ingredients are out Okay yeah they should. They should do it. And then i got the original italian provolone. Ham pursuit teeny coppa coal. Salami pepperoni pepperoni. I got it. Mike's way and i say no mayo. Because i find that mayo kind of generalizes the taste of all sandwiches like if you put it on a on a burger kind of like cuts through and like blends everything and in kind of a nice way. But i didn't want. I wanna taste all the flavors anyway and and then i got a very wait. What did i get the turkey and provolone. Which is just i mean. It's pretty much all their cold sandwiches very similar. So yeah that was. Yeah but yeah. Sandwich overnight heated up and all my thanksgiving food. Yeah just. it's better the next day. Get that congealed factor. I'm on their app right now nick. It's gorgeous app. 'oteer point about the the The sandwiches being pretty similar. You'll find that if you're looking through in particular all their italian variance Because you know like the jersey shore favorite provolone ham and colo the super sub provolone ham shoot teeny and capital kappa. Colo you know the The number four provolone puccini and capital. Colo they all have really diff- they're not different enough to put on different slots and a menu and a way. yes yes. so it's it's a little you know you'll try a lot of them. A lot to me are pretty lateral. I don't see i. I just end up again. Just when i was eating meat. I would just go go for the italian because it's got everything and i think that's the best combo the super sub also is pretty good. It's not quite all the way but it's you know it's got a lot of that a lot of different ingredients. I if you're craving that those kinds of those kinds of flavors they were going to get a decent roast beef as well and and yeah. I think the turkey gets the job done. Yeah turkeys good. I'm looking at my turkey right now. I ate the entire chicken chicken philly. And then i took like two bites of the other ones so i'm feeling bad but i don't feel great but i ate them like really right. I right up to when we started like recording. I was kind of showing them. So how did i expect to feel yet. It's always a dangerous move. Yeah i agree that you could but honestly when when they do when you get just like the regular sized italian and i've gotten the i've got the club saw a couple of times which is the turkey in. Am and bacon. I think that. And i've i've eaten that for lunch and it won't kill me. You know what i mean. It's it's it's. it's not something that i'm like. This is like a gut bomb as we say naked doesn't it doesn't it doesn't destroy. It's not a day destroyer route but it can't be h- can definitely be heavy especially if you're eating like we are for for for these giant sandwiches but overall. I don't think that they're like. I don't think that they come off greasy. I feel like if i ate a full subway sub. I can sometimes feel worse than eating jersey. Mike's even though they're more substantial what will fully agree with you one hundred percent but but hey you know the sandwiches make us feel a certain way internally but how do they make us feel emotionally or intellectually We will find out when we return. Oh my god with our right here on dough boys do you. Experience stress revving anxiety or chronic pain or have trouble sleeping at least once a week. You're not alone many of us. 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You were talking about your your beverage. Last we last left you look. I got cool restaurant which you know where my favorite doritos flavor. I love you. I love doritos. And so whatever great to have the sandwich and then drake that diet pepsi the next day with the philly cheese steak and like i said i drank the stubborn soda which was root beer which was fine. It got the job done. I don't know if this is anyone's favorite soda is honestly wonder what the deal was. Stubborn side is it was kid. It wasn't bad but it was just whatever then. I ordered one cookie and two brownies because the brownies looked out and the cookie did not arrive in the order. Sadly but both of the brownies did arrive. And that's on the staff. That's yeah they fucked. They've they've fucked up. And you know what. I didn't say a word about it nick. Because that's the type of person i am that's right. I'm such a hero in many waste. That i did not complain about my missing cookie. I but the two the two brownies were there and nick. I said that the bite of the night was maybe that reheated g steak but i might have to go back. These chocolate chip brownies. Were so good. Wow that my mom said that she would maybe swing in and just get the brownie. Sometimes that's amazing. That is remarkable. The brownies are so good. I'd say do you say mama you can't it might trouble your tummy looking here. Where your mom stress. I said nothing of the sort. I said ma. You can do whatever you'd like. And i support you and then i got on the phone and i called up and complained about me missing cookie. I wish i wish i had tried. I just was. I just recently heard that. If like i was on a guy who this guy mike who delivers for jersey urban over. I was on with jersey. Mike and i talked about like missing when you miss small stuff from ordering. He's like he's like never like if you missed something that's like three dollars or under. Never say a word about it. Which i never which is not a thing i would do normally anyway but then i found that out. I was like oh. That's good to know that yes. I think they take that out on drivers which is the thing i didn't i didn't realize before i never i never do that. I don't know if it was a store. Mix upward or whatever it was. But i didn't get the cookie. I would love to try it because the brownies were so good i was. I was really blown away by the bra. And i think that they're made by the jersey. Mike's company i don't know if they're made in store highly doubt that they're made in store but they're really really fantastic. I have not had the brown. But mitch i did get the cookie. I got regular chocolate chip cookie. Which i will say is i. It's not a toss in like at subways. The sally colleagues i feel. You're just kind of their quick question on the jersey. Mike's app is there an button you can push or no mitch. Now there's not a cookie you can order from leixoes so it was a conventional cookie. A non bookie. Oh okay it was it was. I thought it was great. I was really good. I thought it was me. So soft and chewy. I thought it had a great great cookie texture to it. Lots of chocolate shops did push the button. Yeah let me let me recheck. The apple quit. My only question is who's on the cookie thursay. Mike himself jersey on chocolate. Yes yeah accidentally hit extra. That's the problem. Be honest with you. Have you ever order a cookie and it hasn't come rookie and you call up and complain that there was no fianna dollars. That's what the driver was like. If it's under three dollars. Just tell me i'll come in and make it look it up. Baby i also got the and the other thing i louis. So soft and chewy you liked. It was really good. Was i am now. It was like kinda room temp. It was in plastic and it was room temp cookie. Yeah it was mike stamp. Yeah wait so it was. It was gooey. Wasn't it wasn't like a hard cookie. No it was like a softer cookie. I mean it wasn't like a you know again. The compared it by contrast to the subway cookies with the subway cookies are kind of like like hard and crunchy and they've been sitting there awhile. This wasn't like that this is a this was a good cookie the and they also got for my chips. Ray savory side. I got the misfit. He's barbecue chips. Which are just a little bit. I thought i like the mismatch keys. Jalapeno chips a lot. And that's often my go-to but i've really been on a barbecue chip kick recently and there. They make a good one. I i think they have a great chips election at jersey. Mike's i'll say that to its credit. Nice they do. They do like It seems like there. There are other products besides sandwiches. They don't have a lot but it seems like they do a good job with them Yes four. I was really i. I didn't the first time. I ever got jersey. Mike's our old friend. Salman matt selman friend of the show. Gnat who just recently into a simpson's episode. He was like. I want to go to jersey. Mike's and i will blame this on him. And he gave me a number for jersey. Mike's and i and i when i worked at the simpsons i was the assistant at the simpsons. I ordered up jersey. Mike's for everybody and it was like athol location. And like like a north not north hollywood itself but like up in almost at the fox law and it was like way up near my house. Basically right here in the southwest side of la. You're talking about the the kind of northeast part of la. You're going across the city and it can be an hour in traffic. It was like an hour an hour away. Someone had given me the wrong number. So many fucked up. So i so. I hated jersey. Mike's because of that. And then when i ate and i was immediately exhausted all the goodwill that he got with you from drawing you into the simpsons sucked up so many you saline on the simpsons. Is that nick. And i were in a different episode. Yes i did has set a line in an episode of the simpsons. but in this simpson's we were just drawn in as like a a cameo like it was just as the doe boys. Yeah just kind of standing there. He gave me complain about it. I just i had a lie. I just was like there's an issue in the kitchen and i would just. It was an hour away and it was it was. It was bad news but i love some. What are you trying to do. Give me a race from the episodes man can do retroactively blur you out. I got the lays. I can't not get these new. Just just mouth. Bleeders just like the yellow lays classics. They're so good leila's like one of my favorite dip chips. The can you really beat that for dip chip. It's it's hard to beat nick. Pure solely issue the only issue with them as a dip chip is they can sometimes break. I know they're kinda thin but they're good. They're good chips. People people underrate lays people sleep on lanes to say yeah. They're good but at but i. I was impressed with jersey. Mike's and i started to order more and more for lunch just to get like a regular sized sandwich like that club or the italian sometimes not all the time but but but like every couple of weeks i would probably get it and i i really enjoy it. I think they do a good job over there. I concur daily. Did you get anything beyond the chips chips. I should have got a desert. But i just got all these very similar subs and then the lays classics. I had a good some pretty good experience. And they were very Very nicely socially distance in there it was not on brand in colorado but like colorado right under the to in kind of near pasadena In it was kind of like an off the beaten path one. I wanted to go to nothing. Nothing else. I wish i had gotten one of those cookies or you can also okay the brownies out that you know he anything. Mike's way if you want to any dessert yeah it really great. I think more than did your your do diligence. John with with all the sandwiches you ordered. So let's get to our final thoughts on jersey. Mike's so Just to recap we'll each go around. Give our closing argument if you will and then end by giving it a score from zero to five john you're guest. We'll begin with you jersey. Mike's just i've loved it. I mean i wouldn't say. I love it but i choose it a lot and like it's like aaa to me kind of like that that it's kind of that. It's a little bit better than taco bell and jersey. Mike's is a little bit better than south. Most places most sub chain places. I'm gonna go ahead and give it. Wow jersey. Mike's wow i think i might give it for forks i think wow or like three four and well. I didn't get dessert. So i can't really stand by that so i feel like a half to give it. I don't know. I'll give it four forks. 'cause i just wanna to give avonex good. I like jersey. mike's. I have affection for it. It's good to do a good job. Well john i think that's a great score. Personally i think you. I think great score and thanks i i. I concur quite a bit. I am i going to be hand holding on this. There's a possibility. I i kind of didn't see what the big deal was with jersey. Mike's and signed for me to face the music wags This is maybe as far as like national chains. That are that on the subway level. That you that are that are everywhere and at least in my experience. Everywhere is just boston in la. But still i get this in quincy and i can get this in l. a. and that to me is is that that that that's the test to me in. I think it's one of the best ones that there is. I think it's really really good. I mean it is that italian sandwich. I told you why you're looking for italian sandwiches recently. And what is eighty you let this to be clear. This was in twenty twenty back. When i was eating meat which i don't do anymore. Oh god yes what did i say i said you see. It's hard to beat that jersey. Mike's italian sub yeah we were doing my mommy's tummy peppers mommy's tummy was found down this thing. She got gave her bike. And i got fucking pissed. She took too many one. Too many bites wags. But i told you this. Italian sub is in la. You know like around here. There's spots i can get a local telling sub. Whatever people are sick of hearing me. Say that but in la if you're not going to get in a godmother down at bay cities order you order yourself up a jersey. Mike's a talent. It's delicious yeah. It's really fantastic. So i am going four forks as well but wow my score. It's i'm having mine oaky it's for a four okay forks man that's vile sweet treat part hooking and yeah you're just forking the come also the like the worst utensil to eat come with yeah really clumsy lives more safe is knife is works better look come off a knife. I've done it who hasn't been part of childhood writer. Four forms look inside. Oh my good score from both of you. i'm still you know we're going heavy on the local geography this episode. I'll contribute like you mitch with your selma order. I had an incident where i was using the jersey. Mike's app and i was doing a little little. You know socially distance fitness at the park. And i was like. I'll get my jersey. Mike's afterwards so i just hopped on the app not realizing that instead of defaulting to my home location at it vaulted to the most proximal location. And so i went to the my usual jersey. Mike's they're super friendly. They're there's they're so nice and they. They run a great the tight ship. I went in there to pick up my order. They know me. I'm a regular and they were like they're like are you sure it's this one sure it's not the i'm at the one on venice boulevard. They're like are you sure. It's not the sepulveda's location and check the app. And they were right. So i went over to the other location picked up my sandwich return. They were super nice there. I what was that butchered butchered it. So i went and and they picked it up from there super nice. They're a again a great pickup system. I i feel like throughout the time. I've been going to jersey. Mike's the services always been stellar and their product is good from from a veggie per vegetarian perspective or actually how about just from someone. With any sort of dietary restrictions from that perspective they have the sub in a tub. They have a good veggie sandwich. I wish they had more options. But you know if you're eating low carbs in the tub. If you're eating vegetarian they got the veggie sandwich. If you're eating gluten free. They got a gluten free option. They kind of have this covered as much as a sandwich focus. Place can and and. I think it's a great option from that regard. I'm going to not be in the hand holding club. Because i'm going to go a little higher. Wow double club jersey. Mike's going four and a half. Four watt forks two times and the two times are conventional forks to look tines tons. Wow so desert well-deserved i hate having italian. I haven't an italian in the golden play club wise. But this is this is good. I'm going to add. Can i add to my for folks. Yes works in in an oak. Yeah okie forks. i'll all my folks okay. Four and a half hours. Okay we're nelson club. So so that's the view of church by the way. I don't know if when we we reviewed jersey. Mike's with tarver. I don't know if it ended up in the golden plate club or not. But if it wasn't it's in and if it was then it retains its place in the golden plates. How think about it not being in the golden play club but it. It might depend on what time of year it is whether you're on the for for Jersey mike's is like it's autumn. So it's like so lovely to get a big job if it isn't can we. Can we blame it on. Drew easily carver. All right one of the summer is a good time for substitute but yeah. Let's blame it on drove. I you know what it was. Not in the golden play club. Wow and in fact drew. Tarver gave it four forks and jersey. Mitch as i call myself then which i guess is i. Don't even remember the podcast for whatever was that. I've no idea jersey jersey. Mitch benn and you're nick. The god burger wider. And we we each game on earth i. That's that is fiction to me. That i don't remember any of that race. You'll never forget the rookie episode. The we never we gave it three point five forks. Wow we i think we maybe went a little low or maybe. They've upped their game. Because this was this was a wonderful experience. I really really enjoyed my sandwich and also remember your beef with it now. Yeah i will say that. The roasts spoon man is in here. And you know what. I got a cookie and saved it and shared it with nick. Andrew live on the podcast. That doesn't seem like me. But the The row spoon men was less fuck. -able friar tuck pretty good lists focused friar tuck. What what did you. What resource did you just consult. This is doboy zwicky right. There's a doe boys wicked doboy zwicky. Pedia yes wow. Some maniac dedicates their life to not maniac genius. No it's it's it's very nice. I just confusing so little. It's a little look. Don't wanna meet the. Here's a creating in your intro. You talk about the sopranos. How all right well. This is just embarrassing. We don't remember anything. That's incredible whenever record this episode two months ago. A lot of the wait a minute. It says here in the woke up this morning got myself a sub. I wait. the sopranos. Might come to mind if you're buying a sub called the god like if you're buying talion like brazil right all they talk about what they can. I are huge tax. That definitely joke and says we're hacks we're still making the joke to this day we're fucking lizard anyways. That was our review of jersey. Mike's that's right. We don't do the fucking segue not stop trying to be the captain. I'm the captain. Now you are not the captain. Now it's time for a segment. Mitch and i are going to sacrifice some foodstuffs for the remainder of the year. It's time for my snacker. Feis cheese hints shoes will name a stack of then. We can't food for this sad to our lives snapper size. I just want to eat some snacks Wow very good we might need you to recap those lyrics The cure drop style. Okay cheetos cheez its choose. One will eliminate a snack for fun. Then we can't eat it for months. This adds years to our lives are snack or my snacker. Feis very good and then i just want to eat some snacks again. I liked it. You know what. Listen to decreed for a minute. No oh boy. Everyone makes fun of greed. Isn't that songs fine. it's fine. it's a fine song my. It's my sacrifice. Can you take me higher. Yes and those are two. I get that they're like like they're not a coup band. But you know what i know. And i know that i also make fun. Everyone who likes star star wars movies. But i just don't get it when people make fun of certain bands. I who cares. Muscular are muscular. Know that there's a religious element but it's just a funny that there are a punching. 'cause i mean like almost bands are are not great right and they just have one or two songs that people like and i think that's those two songs are fine right. I think those songs are so ubiquitous that it yeah came like oh my god. How many times can i hear. Can you take me higher. Yeah the right. Yes yeah it we're kinda oversaturated. And and i think there there's maybe i'm wondering if you personally mitch that you're maybe a little defensive about this Because of your own. Fandom for the often maligned dave matthews band yes part of it. Dnb kind of a punch line. But they're good band look for so long just so many snarky comedy kids in the world. It's true would be like don't like dave matthews and they would make fun of it but then they'd also be like i love blink. One eighty two. And i'm like that's just as dorky to me. As dave matthews band is total rate. It's less dorky than a little wink. One eighty to a little bit dorky. But i feel like. I do feel like dave matthews band but dave matthews like every time. I see him interviewed. I'm just like man. He seems like the best lace is a great guy. I mean yeah just like a great guy and then there's always the story about. He dumped the shit off the who cares. It wasn't him who did it wasn't him. Yeah that was the driver was the band volunteered to offer up. Their shit is dna evidence so they could see if it was actually their tour. Bus are not day wasn't them. It was the driver. The driver was being a misfit. Let's get the shit dumped on me. Mitch let's get into my snacker all right so the categories that i have written down here. Well you know. I'll let you drive it. We got three different categories. Here yes and and john. We're gonna say three different snacks from this category. You don't have to. You don't have joined nick and i in this. I will snack replace a snack. Wow wow just to further the hell of it. And why not i will. Well we got. We got three different categories. We got peanut. Candies nick We got chips and we got sodas. Do you want a little bit more specific than the other two. Yes do you want to say you want to say. The more specific categories go for no. I thought we thought we'd we'd nailed down. I just wanted to make sure that this is what i have. What i have is is the category one peanut based candy bars. Yes category two coca cola varietals. That's right and category three doritos flavors. That's correct yes. This i mean i the i don't wanna give up any of these it's going to be bad But we'll see what's going to be snapped. What's what the snack official lamb is for each category. Let's begin with peanut based candy bars or our candidates the three candidates to be sacrificed candidates if you will the three candidates to be sacrificed yes one snickers wow too. Reese's peanut butter cups that's tough. Yeah yeah already tough. It's hard already but hold on john. There's a third one and it doesn't get easier three peanut m. and m.'s. Who we have to sacrifice one of these and not eat them for the rest of the year wives. This is not fun for us at all. Why did we do this. Who knows and one. Where like you'll you'll you know you'll say like all right fine peanut eminem's and then all of a sudden movie theaters reopened in july. And you can't have your favorite concession or you know what. Don't reese's peanut butter cups all that often but then halloween comes around and you can't have one of those reece's pumpkins it's it's it's. It's tough but but john let's start with you gut reaction or or your your initial thoughts. Snickers peanut peanut eminem's and the reece's cups like giving up snickers for me is no big deal. I don't. I'm not a totally into snickers like i won't get a snickers a lot i would rather take five Then snicker so. I usually choose. Choose that but i do eat a lot of reese's cups and it's a very. That is something. I eat the other peanut butter thing. I eat pretzels with like dehydrated. Peanut butter in the middle of them. And i love. And i get honey on them in my house like a slob and eat them. Think that sounds good right yes. He's like a two. Am like food whole thing but yeah look. I'll give up the cups. I think it'd be good for my body. Because i i eat them more than any other genuinely something. I get a lot like probably about twenty to thirty times a year or so like yeah on my mouth. Agape use your favorite unbelievable. It'll be good and honestly weirdly a friend of mine. My friend. jason got addicted to making. He got so into peanut butter and chocolate combos that he started cooking and making his own and so like. I ate those like kind of like at his house for a while and was just like well i got really into and that comey even deeper into reece's cups so would actually be a really amazing sacrifice for me to sacrifice that that's wild also arrest. Nick we should talk about the punishment. If you break the snacker feis is it. S right it is easy you have to suck friend of the podcast yet to suck them off matt. He's agreed to it. i know matt. Yeah okay yeah. He's cool with it and matt. You're married that's fucking bullshit. That's fucking sick man. You're married man. you're that sick. He and his wife mistake rebel. You and his wife might be paulie. That's true that's true. I want wanna make any assumptions. Maybe it's fine. Yeah if you break your sacrifice you can suck off gulick. Yes and you know he's gonna be rubbing in your face as you're going down on him the whole time. Maybe that's what you're into right. Nick maybe find so. I s this wise. We should say this if we do it for real. You owe me five dollars okay. I'll give you five dollars. And if you break it you five dollars to peter no make a donation in my name a all right all right. Calm down mitch not. Pita pita no. You're excited for a second successive. What could donate to pita. Yeah an organization you support. So i got the of the peanut based candy bars i do like snickers and i do like racist peanut butter cups. Ben i like all three of them and peanut emsworth were a fixture in my home. My childhood home that was just like a snap like a candy dish snack. My parents would have and i. I loved just much on those. But i think you know what i'm going daily. My favorite of the bunch reese's peanut butter cups. I'm not gonna have him. Why not why not want to deprive myself of these and see what happens. I'll snickers are fine. Peanut eminem's are fine. Reece's cops you're out of the picture while well my question is if i give them up. Snickers does that mean snickers ice cream bars too. I think so great question. I think so. Yeah that's a big loss. You can get your fix then. It's even better. Yeah yeah damn right. Well that changes everything. Because honestly in that case i'd probably give up the pm. Hold on. But i like truly can't give up eminem's for the fact that if the movie's come back i'm gonna wanna eat pie peanut eminem's but that being said i don't think theaters will come back. Movie theaters were basically stabbed in the back today. By warner brothers so i guess i'm going to have to snacker feis peanut m. and m.'s wags. Wow peanut eminem is out of the picture for mike mitchell. It's gonna coke varieties. no fuck. I can't give up in eminem's. I'm giving up snickers and green bars. That sucks though wow. That's that's tricky but yet honestly probably caloric. That's that's the best bet to do. I think those are pretty pretty unhealthy. I get into cokes. So what are we have mitch. We have coke as the first option diet coke as the second option and the final option. Nick cherry coke coke diet coke cherry coke which are going to face. This is a snap decision for me. This is easy diet cokes. Out of the picture. 'cause 'cause i drink so little just actual soda that when i want it. I want a straight up like full calorie cola. Because otherwise what am i doing i i will have plain sparkling water or flat water or iced tea when i'm actually going to have a soda on that rare occasion i'll give me a coke. Gimme a cherry coke coke. I can live without it. I live without it. Now what do you think mitch is. Tricky for me too because it's another thing if theaters come back. The first thing i want is a big cherry coke at the movie theater. But i love just a nice coca cola. Such a great treat. Sometimes i love coke. And i still drink diet cokes. Too often that. I just can't get rid of it so i have to get rid of arguably my favorite one in a way i have to. I have to sacrifice. Cherry coke it sucks. I know well you know what i think. You'll still get that experience you'll get like like eighty to ninety percent of the pleasure. If a movie movies do come back of getting a just a regular coke and sin with it in theaters. that's true and some buttery popcorn. That'll be great. Yeah john what do you think. Well i agree in that. I love cherry coke at the movie theater with ice. Otherwise i really don't like it but cherry coke with ice like movie theater isis. So good i can't give up diet coke because it's like acting juice it's like it makes you good at acting and so you can't give it out but maybe i'll give coke about i. I'll give up. Because i drink that more than i think. Like diet coke is is like i really like it. It's it's important to my like it really gives you like true wants. The coffee is done. You get that diet coke and you really. You really feel like a person again so i it would be tough to give that up so i i i gotta go with regular coke which i yeah i really like mexican coke so do have that like a few times a year. So i'll give that one up snacker faced. Wow wow coke. Heavy snacker feist for john daly. Let's get to the third and final category. Doritos flavors Nick the drills. Flavors are nacho cheese or nacho cheesier my favorite cool rancher cooler ranch yes and then finally the final one is all other dorito brands. Wow so encompassing everything else. Msci let's have you start for this one. This to me is too easy. And i think that we should make it something harder than all other dorito brands because my sacrifices all other dorito brands. I'll stay with. I'll stay with nacho cheesier. And i'll stay with cool. Ranch be very happy. That's all i need. That's all you're you'll encounter too. I mean yeah in how you make it more. So how would you up the difficulty. That mitch is choices that either. Or nacho cheese or cool ranch or all lay's chips instead of instead of all other doritos ships. i'd still await all lay's chips we're talking. Cheetos all lays brand chips that makes it tough. That does make it tough. But if you do that you can do. You can still do not. Joe cheese or cool ranch doritos. Let me quickly make the case for all other doritos flavors. You got your flaming hot and that counts for a lot of heat seeker like i. Am you get your flaming hot and yet you're spicy nacho and your sweet spicy chili even your pop poppin jalapeno if you want to go that direction so if you you're craving some heat from your chips you gotta have all other other flavors. The top patio once they have also the straight up regular doritos like this. The tortilla chip flavors are very good tortilla chip. You don't encounter them often but that was the first doritos. I had the the straight up regular tortilla chip jazz. Back in nineteen fucking seventy three. You eight doritos. Before nacho cheese. It did not predate nacho cheese but did predate cool ranch. Wow so this was. This was a pre cool ranch era where they were just regular doritos. Those are good. So i will say as much as i like. Cool ranch fuck. But but not. But i do like cool ranch. You know what. I'm going to give up nacho cheese while favorite thereto flavor so here. Yeah you're you're you're giving up the doritos locos taco as well. Shit yes i am. I am vegetarian anyways. Yeah so they can get it with beans in it sucks beans for for for me at at taco bell. I'm going to stay cool ranch. And then you know the flaming hot. Nacho will carry me through the absence of the traditional nacho flavor john daly knock nacho cheese cool ranch all other doritos i can knock out. I'm not a you know. I just don't eat doritos. Just not only does guy. I'll eat some and maybe at a party like a superbowl kind of thing. Like but i just don't. They're not my chip of choice. I'll do a lot of like chips and salsa. But but i'll probably give up cool ranch because wow those are the only ones i like. That's the only real sacrifice because in that opens the field to trying. Because i would you just said there's top petillo doritos. I didn't know that. So i would like to try that. So that kind of opens like flaming heart. I mean i don't know that's probably bad for mommy's tummy. But i but it'd be fun to how the option to try and exotic brand. So yeah. that's yeah. I'll give up a cool ranch that john daly really embodying the of mice naggar play the game better than wider. And i did yes. Naturally snacker feis chew snacker. We've all we've all made sacrifices today. And maybe we're better for it nick. Let's hope so just like a restaurant. We've all your feedback. Let's open up the feedback and hey we have a voice mail today. Let's go ahead and listen to this guys. I'm just wondering what your go-to leuven meal is. He just finished unpacking. All your shit. What are you gonna eat. Thanks love the show. I'm joseph peddler. Thanks for the question. Does that sound at the end. The dog no no was it a dog or a car horn. Should we listen again. Didn't step off a stool to hang himself at the end kicked it out. I'm just wondering what your to move meal. Is he just finished unpacking. All your shit. What are you gonna eat. Thanks love the show. i'm. Joseph peddler giuliani style for riot. Ask for no. It'd be great if that was his last act swinging in his garage right now. His last words were. I'm joseph by the way joseph. I hope you're still with us. And yes this is. My answer is is an easy one wags. I've loaded all the plates in moved in. Lagos still got stuff in boxes. I'm bringing some more boxes in the mortaring up some pizzas wags easy. That's great easy you don't you don't have to use the new place that you just packed away or if they're in a box you don't have to get him he does eat right out of the fucking pizza box. It's a pizza easy. I use that so many things that i get. I get pizza for so much but moving in. That's another one terrific. Simple answer i want. I've never thought of but yeah pizza for moving in. that's perfect. What a natural fit. Plus you get to just find the local pizza place. That's your new apartment man. It sucks and you're gonna be a bomber. Yeah i think. I think kind of similar but i think just local anything like you see the thing you see. You're like in a new place and you're like oh let's try this. We might as well try. Start trying restaurants now and then you try some someplace so local something but pizza works definitely but anything like you try some someplace and maybe you think it's really good and then a couple of months later you're like thinking we knew these are the really good restaurants and then all over the food which is covered. I don't know. I know but i think yeah pizza's good. I think pizza's good. Yeah it's a great suggestion. I like going someplace local as well and that actually reminds me of the times. I've done moves. That are just like moves. I feel like always. It's a longer day than you anticipated. And at the end of it. It's just the at your. I found myself at a couple times after moving is just go to like an all night deli or diner just the place. That's near the the new place. That's that's open you kind of get out of the place you just moved into for a little bit. That's still got boxes abound and you just kind of like you know you get to decompress a little bit and that's a fun experience also someplace local. You're like hey this diner. I can walk through. This is right by our apartment. It's open all night diners. Get diners good. Also let me say this. In recent years i've gotten into just getting some fucking like a cheap asbullah champagne from The liquor store the grocery store for an event like this. It makes it feel like an occasion. And you don't have to break the bank. You know to buy the fucking you know hundred dollar bottle of verve clico or wherever the fuck you can just by like a nine dollar bottle of i don't my palate doesn't know the difference. I can't discern good champagne badge nose bubbly wine. So yeah just get some fucking cheap champagne and or some cheaper echo and makes it feel like a party. We're gonna get you up to the french laundry no way. Are you saying just drink champagne. Don't have anything to eat. no i'm saying have that. In addition to whatever we can order some pizza get yourself a little champagne from seven eleven as well and treat yourself make it make it a little party or sparkling cider. If you don't drink alcohol but something bubbling. It's fun i've question. Calm about the world of chain restaurants and justify okay. I've you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants. You can email. Don't boys podcasts. At jamila voice miltie three zero. That's eight three zero four. Six three six eight four four and to get the job w weekly bonus episodes during the golden or platinum play club at patriotair dot com slash. Doboy 's john. Daly the album which i will try not to butcher again lest i draw the dreaded butcher a butcher drop butchered god damnit that was because of what you just said. Because it's because they said bush turns in butchered. Abracadabra -fornia matured. God damn it no those perfect perfect It's a it's a streaming available where everyone can get wherever anyone can find music. Tell about anything else. You'd like to plug. It's my a seven inch record is out on northern spy at record stores near you. It is my legendary chili peppers. Song from two thousand fourteen super bowl when they played the super bowl. And i- pranked the world with with that song. And then my little zan dis song which i put in two thousand eighteen on the b side which is very funny to both are remasters and very beautiful and will be available. Yeah so i said it was streaming now. But it's a it's a physical record. It's a seven it's a record. Yeah it's a seven inch record. And then i'll be putting out an lp next next fall of all original songs hell yeah and Yeah but this is a It'll be back. 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Exploring The Magical Skirt Steak & First Time Guest Robert Moss Talks Carolinian Stuff!

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Exploring The Magical Skirt Steak & First Time Guest Robert Moss Talks Carolinian Stuff!

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Smoke is a live fire cooking class instructor at barbecue university which we will also be talking about. You know him you love him. Stephen reichel in joining us as always thirty five past the hour first timer to the show to use a barbecue and he is written no less than two books on barbecue. His was was so prolific and things have changed so much in the last ten years that he went back and revised a huge book of business. That of course robert moss first timer to the show will be joining us at nine thirty five and for those of you who have not caught robert on other shows or read his writings. Add robert moss dot com. You can check them out right here on the show for your first time this evening with a little background about and his introduction and history with the live fire industry and we'll talk about writing and journalism. We'll talk about that book and then we'll get into some general barbecue topics not the least of which would be what two or three things have changed or have been the biggest changes causing that rewrite of the book so stay tuned for thirty five past a first time visit with robert. Mawson probably won't be the last time visit. That will move to the second hour. I'll tell you. I've had this first hour booked for weeks on end. I also had the second hour booked weeks on end and then overnight and i have no idea if this is holding true as to why this happened. The second hour took a large dump and that was it so quickly throwing out winds to see who could make it and stepping up to fill the void. None other than webber's pit master and grill master. Kevin comb paul will be joining us from web grills the last week meet had an i talked about weber's latest introduction with their smart grill technology or connected grill technology both in the genesis and spirit. Line that will make its way into conversation. We'll talk smoke fire. We'll talk about a rebrand on the summer charcoal on the summit charcoal grill as well. My find that interesting bunch of stuff. Plus there's a travel grill. That might be introduced later in the year. So kevin coleman will help us round out the shell your phone calls and emails as well. Two six two two zero zero nine six six or greg. At the bbq central show dot com. You can follow me socially if you don't already instagram twitter tiktok snaps at bbq central. Shell facebook and twitter have a live video stream. You can find me there on those respective websites slash. Bbq central show of video stream also on the tubes slash r d remedy listener feedback. Oh and there was a bunch of it the interview with case on second hour of last week. So if you're just joining me the first time ever and your a fan or non fan of you will want to after the show. Go find the video or audio or video archives of the show from last week and go into the second hour where you will find a visit to segment visit by the way from. Okay saw here. Is ace. smattering of reaction. And i'll sit here and tell you that over the course of the week and through hundreds of emails and social media direct messages and non direct messages by and large running fifty fifty the lead up to the interview with mo anticipation running fifty fifty. So after the fact or post interview it was both heartening and a little shocking that we ran fifty fifty on the feedback for instance denison colorado loved mo. Had a chance to meet demand. Two summers ago at the denver barbecue festival made awesome. Q really enjoyed his baked beans as well but really chewing ice on. Mike may have a sip of water instead next time. What are you talking about. Ice chewing going on leonard in new york wrote. Hi greg if it needed to be proven again. This week's show is all the proof needed as to why you are the greatest of all time. The case on interview was exceptional. I had the honor of meeting bo. A couple of years ago at the barbecue monster fast at their headquarters in warminster pennsylvania. He is exactly as he said a really nice down to earth guy just funny slash takeaway mo is a loud eater. Indeed steve in tennessee. Right the mo- case on segment was one of your best ever greg so typical save something stupid and blame it on the reporter. You let them talk and just kept shoveling the dirt on his own grave regards. Steve ron hap- jumped in. I'm a humble guy bunch munch crunch crunch if i say. Your food is raggedy than its raggedy. I know what good food is. A great food justin mccabe road so after listening to the ice chopping. What i gathered is his restaurant in quotes will be nothing more than a famous mos- since he will have no involvement in the actual operation. Lot of talk about how he would operate a restaurant and wouldn't pull a single piece meat from the cooker until done yet. He won't actually be around to share his cooking methods. He's nothing more than a name for this project. Justin i would recommend that you go back and relive and he did say that he was going to be in the restaurant. He was going to be giving his methods. He was going to be implementing processes. But of course it would be on the day to day folks to make sure that they're implemented when he is not there he also did not specify how often he would be there. But let's make sure that we understand that as correct. I eric watts also jumped in. Basically i picked up two main things from this conversation. Number one states everything in this article as he said to be one hundred percent then says he'd never read the article himself number two. He's a humble guy and then proceeds to talk about ten minutes for how great he is. I'm fairly new barbecue but from a business standpoint. I don't see this lasting long. Dennis mckee elson also weighed in having hung out with him in person he puts on no heirs after he taught his class. He sat down on a cooler and was just a normal guy. He definitely has a special place in his heart. For vets vincent act also jumped in. I don't know if i'm saying your last name. Right vincent so i apologize if i'm not having been listening to him. The man sounds passionate about what he does and wants perfection. Isn't that what we all. strive for. Cory gardner also wrote in. He's a friendly faces. All i know him personally. He's sold out years ago. I was destroying teen in destroying him every damn weekend. He's a mediocre. Cook at best. Larry durden with the final. Weigh in as we go to the first break and get ready for steven reich lynn. Greg thank you for that interview. It was entertaining there. You go so as you see it. A fifty fifty split. More or less mope more or less on the case on interview. Lot of you pointing out the ice shopping. I get it some of you saying. Hey this is now. This is who he is. I'm down with the brand. I'm down with him. Let's stick with it others saying i'm not down with what he did. Everybody's he's got an opinion as most his pit. I will give you my take at the top of the second hour steven reich. Lynn is ready to go standby. We'll talk to you quickly about green mountain. Grills some of the best helicopters cookers out there on the market today and my words only getting jobs right now in the barbecue world in legal ease. We don't like that. Come on in the meantime you still have a choice line of green mountain grills to choose from you also have a prime line of green mountain grills to choose from. You also have a prime plus if you want. Now if you're like me you don't have to have all that technical stuff. You just want a great pella cooker. That's easy to use the choice line. You can save a couple bucks. It comes in both the jimbo in the daniel boone sizes. You want to spend a couple extra bucks because you'll like technology one app control you want ability to adjust those cookers you want peak in windows on the main cooking chamber at pellet hopper internal meet probes all that fun stuff. Prime line is going to be one that you want to take if you wanna step it up. Even a notch more with actual headlights in the cooking chamber prime plus more robust builds on the plus and on the prime but again. It's all up to you if you're somebody that knows their way around a cooker and you just want something that's gonna keep nice and even temperatures i would say go with the choice wine otherwise make sure that you are up to speed all the other stuff. They sell through dealers rights. He'll go to green mountain. Grills dot com and check out where the nearest green mountain grilled dealer is to you and then you can go see him in person. Ask all the questions. You want their the sales folks on the floor. They are trained to answer and make sure success right out of the box. Pellet grills are hot they will continue to be hot and twenty twenty one. There's certainly no better option the green mountain grills right now. Green grills dot com. That's green mountain. Grills dot com. We're back with the and only steven rockland stick around. We'll be right back. You're listening to the number one most downloaded barbecue and grilling podcast anti where the barbecues central show broadcasting live from the barbecues central show studios in cleveland ohio. You're listening to the barbecues central show once again. Here's your host greg. all right. Welcome back this portion of the show being brought to you by the barbecue. Guru makers of automatic troll devices ceramic cookers cabinet style installation cookers accessories to make your barbecue and grilling life easier go to bring bbq guru dot com. That's bbq google dot com and check out. What the have continued to be a breakthrough at barbecue technology. Centralized the third tuesday of the month. The means it's time to do a segment with an icon in the industry. A host of tv shows creator of the very popular project. Fire tv show author of barbecue bile bible and a host of other barbecue books as well. We go to the hotline. And welcome back to guests steven reich. Lynn hey steven how are you. I'm doing okay. how about yourself. I'm fine anyway you can rotate that pad by chance. I do that. I go on my side. Hey i apologize here. I'm having problems with my computer hero charge and it's so obliged to talk to you on south on today's no problem so sounds good and we are here even reichel and of course so we have a couple of different things to talk about here. Stephen and the first thing that i wanted to lead with as i am a regular visitor to your website is a blog post on skirt steak. And i think we have enough years of knowing each other now stephen where i'm not abashed to share with you my inequalities when it comes to having sampled meats and other various stuff here. I'm just this isn't going to be another caviar conversation. Is it a no absolutely not. I have had skirt steak Two or three times. But i have to say it's not normally on my radar. It's not normally something that as i go into the butcher or if i'm just in the case at the grocery store that i'm looking for But then i see you post on your website then immediately. I'm reinspired to say. Hey this is something. Maybe i should be looking more into and so let's talk a little bit about skirt steak and where it comes from. I know there's this like inside skirt steak and outside skirt steak and you know we can hash it out from there but let's talk a little bit about skirt steak on the whole from the top. Okay basically well stakes come from two basic parts of the steer right. You've got a stakes from the top part of the steer eating high off the hog. You'd say if it were a pork. And that would be your rib. Steak your rib your filet mignon. Your new york strips and then you've got your belly steaks which are thinner much more fibrous Tougher intrinsically but loaded with flavor and belly steaks include flanked steak they include Skirt steak which is one of my favorites. I think originally was popular. Because it was cheap and flavorful. Today it's not so cheap all the time It was really popularized by tex-mex food. Dish called fajitas. Fajita means girdle Literally in spanish and that is the mexican. Spanish name for a skirt steak You piece of meat may be a quarter to a half an inch thick. it's maybe three inches wide and it can actually be quite long it is well marbled but characterized by these transverse fibers. So the key cooking skirt steak hot fire. Quick cook don't take it more than a medium rare and most important sized slice at very very thinly across the grains you shorten those meat fibers. Is there a difference. I mean obviously the words would tell you there's difference or what is the difference between outside and inside skirt steak. You know i've gotta to you. You got me there. that's the i. I'm not familiar with those terms when you're cooking skirt steak though so you give us the general idea. You know hot and fast cook. Medium rare tops thinly sliced. Is there any other way to to survey. Could you eat it like You know Let's say The twelve inches to thirty six inches like pieces. Like you would get a steak urge you know absolutely when you go to the argentinean uruguayan restaurants. Down here in miami. that's how they serve. You know big plate bearing steak the actually. The kids in our family just Just love it. It's it's affordable it's kinda funny tradeoff with stakes you know the most tender steak is the fillet mignon of course but that's also the state with the least flavor You get something like a skirt steak or hanger steak and they are loaded with flavor but you know they're little tougher a little bit more fibrous. Do you think that Filet mignon is popular on menus. Because people tell you it's good or do you think that the popularity of filet is solely due to the fact that it is so much more tender than most of the other cuts available. Well first of all it's easy. It's we'll be like things easy. American we like our stakes tender. And we like things like phrases like Did slices as though a knife Hot knife through butter and stuff like that. I'm personally not a big Big filet mignon eater. Unless you marinate the hell out of it when. I do get filet mignon. I'll do like a korean Boo kogi marinade or something with a lot of flavor to beef up the flavor. I have to tell you. I hate fillet. I don't wanna look down at anybody. That says that that's their favorite cut. But i mean there's easily ten cuts of steak that i would rather have before fillet and by the way for you know as easy as you say unless if you want anything past medium rare it does become quite a an obstacle to cook because typically going anywhere that's decent You know they could be two inches thick or three inches thick or four inches thick. And if you tell the waitress or waiter if you're out at a restaurant that you want a medium plus fillet. There's just no way in hell that they're going to execute medium plus they're gonna do medium rare at best than it's probably going to be medium rare minus Medium rare plus so. I think that it is actually a probably a more difficult piece of meat to cut than most of the other stuff to to cook Yeah there is actually a way to do that. Not the anybody would wanna do it. medium plus. But you know you see her On the top the bottom of the sides. And then you put it in the oven. I guess on a grill you at indirect grilling and you can take it to his as well done as as you might wish war. That's not something. I do by the way i have a recipe in my book project fire. That's about the best way. I know to cook a fillet mignon or and first of all. It's dry brine so you hit it with salt and you let it sit for a couple of hours. The salt pulls out some liquid The juices they can be absorbed. And then i do Adam would adam. Perry lang calls a board sauce. So the hot soleil goes on top of a mound of thrall chopped garlic chillies salon. Dros the scallions Douse with olive oil. And then you thinly sliced the steak on top of all those ingredients. The heat of the state partially cooked some slicing him chops the vegetables. The whole thing mix up the stake juices the olive oil and that really is a pretty spectacular dish. You know. even though it is filet mignon. stephen. I had mentioned at the top that you are the host of barbecue university. And you have been doing that for any nominee. Has it been forty nine years. Maybe even longer actually come on. Come on our twenty th year believing so quite a while. What is the status of barbecue university this year. Well so we moved the school last year. To a gorgeous resort called mon montage palmetto bluff and bluffed and south carolina deep in the heart of a south carolina. Local covert hit. Of course we did manage to get a class done with kofi safety last year and we were uncertain where we're going to be there this year but we just announced about a week ago. that Barbecue university will take place. It's over father's day weekend. That is june seventeenth through twentieth We'll be putting the enrollment information up on my barbecue. Bible dot com website In in the next week or so And i'm really excited about some very cool place We have tried to incorporate. You know. I always try to serve each region where i've done the school. I started at west. Virginia's of that kind of came with a certain set of flavors and traditional dishes than we were out in colorado We did kind of more mountain cuisine. Now we're down on the gulf coast. So you can imagine that oil stors. Shrimp fish will figure very prominently in this year's menu. You're going to be doing any classes on whole hog barbecue. Since you're going to be down there to actually get the original whole hog guy over to be a guest lecturer for us a rodney scott. You bet wow now rodney if you're listening. You don't eldest neck. Because i haven't reached out to you. That is my hope and plan there. You go. that's the preemptive invitations as we are sending them out here on the barbecue central show What is the the history of the school like. How did this whole thing come to be. You had been on a pbs. For a number of years. That's where i i found you and fell in live. Fire love with you but where does where does this barbecue university idea cub opposite trump. Is it something where somebody says. Hey steven should put on something or do you pitch it around and see you takes it. Well first of all gotta make sure we have an adult audience listening to your show because there may a controlled substance or two behind the story but after the barbecue bible came out One night. I sat down and it was night that may or may not have been substance enhanced and i made a list of all the things i wanted to do with barbecue. And let's see one of them. Was i wanted to do a tv show. I wanted to do more books. I wanted to create a website I wanted to create a line of products. I wanted a foreign presence and wanted to take my message to some of the foreign countries where i speak the languages and i also wanted to create a school called barbecue university so i wrote that down on that list. I kept the list in my wallet. Like i always do when i wanna accomplish something. And lo and behold. I had been a guest instructor at the greenbrier. They're cooking school in west virginia and then the opportunity. I have this idea barbeque university. I proposed it The the greenbrier liked it and low and behold barbecue university was in business now. Was there for quite a number of years. So did you sign a. Did you sound like a three four or five year contract right off the bat or was it always a year to year. Let's see how it goes. That's an interesting question. I don't actually remember. But i remember that lives. Twenty years ago was a lot less legal ease and lot more done by handshake than it is today. So i think it was probably just a handshake steven reich joining us here on the show barbecue. Bible dot com is the website. Of course there is the grilling vegetables. Book that We are hoping to see the sheer some point. Potentially a. you're going to see it in. May i think official date is may first or may be something like that but actually Tomorrow will be a day of celebration. The photos for the book went off to the color. Separator on friday The manuscript is going off to the printer. Probably the whole manuscript went off today. And i've just been reviewing the cover And that will go. Mike corrections on that will go in tomorrow will be. The book will be at the printer this week and thus out of my hands which is a wonderful wonderful stage to be at for writer because you know you think you write the book you finish it. You hit send. That's it but man comes back to you again and again and again and again and once it goes to the printer. There's nothing else you have to do with it. So that feels real good. I don't think there's any more prolific writer in the lie fire industry than you are. Do you already have another book. That's already been started or at least conceptualized gotta couple books on the back burner that i'm thinking about Nothing under contract yet. but But one is a One is possible. Well one is a possible novel involving the barbecue world. You may remember that a half dozen years ago. I wrote a novel called the island depart now. Reissued with the original title which is the hermit of chappaquiddick and writing. Fiction was really fun for me so i'm thinking that there will be another another reich. Lynn novel at some point. So i mean. Is it conceptually around some kind of barbecue thing. But then there's a whole other crescendo. Owing story or something along these lines and it just happens to be like maybe a guy that cooks whole hogs for a living or something. Yeah you know ultimately any novel that sort of set in a milia. The highly technical like barbecue or i course racing or like twelve step programs. I'm thinking of all the who done. It's what really makes them interesting. Are the characters situations and in a way the world that you described in this case if if it were the world of competition barbecue That would be a spice but it would. Not the reason people will wanna keep turning. Pages is because of the characters Steven you're in the process of editing. The killer barbecue editing. The killer barbecue. Like line mold the meat show for for the project Yeah yeah i'm sorry. Yeah that particular show is called killer barbecue. Hold the meat right vegetarian. So this year. I say that with trepidation. The euro audience but Yes i am actually doing. One meatless show in the series. And you know it's funny. The seems to be the month of the final edits but We take the show in september. It comes back to me. What's called a rough cut. Which is basically. They have roughed out the time they've We have four cameras going at any given time. At least sometimes we have even more. So what they've done in the rough cut is they said okay. Well this sequel until be with the camera on the dolly in this sequence will be the overhead boom shot and they put it all together. I watch it and then we all watch it. We figure out well. This part is great you know. Gsm really stupid. He already have another angle This is this. The section is not clear. How can we make it more clear. And it's really a chance to fine tune the show. So that's where we are and then the next step will be outlay over the voice over so once we get it through time than i come in and i drop in the voice over they drop in the music said it's an interesting process. No doubt is there a theme for next year's project fire. Well there is actually. We're talking about two teams. Maybe your viewers can the second in so one is the salute to america. Were thinking about doing a show on regional american barbecue but sort of the lesser known regions. You know everybody knows kansas city in texas. I'm looking for regions that you might not be familiar with. The idea is a steven reich lens. Greatest hits show where i will go through and pick out the the best my favorite recipes the most iconic recipes have done over the last twenty five years built a show around that. So i throw it out to you all you. Can you know informal poll Let greg no or come on my website. barbecue bible dot com or my facebook page. And tell me what you're thinking all right you can go to barbecue. Bible dot com. That's the website. You can follow stephen on social media at steven reich lynn. He is the regular third tuesday of the month. Guest even really appreciate the time as always and we will see you in march absolutely and i hope will be back on my regular computer by thanks. We'll do a great job. Grill on everybody steven reich right. They're showing up on the show. The third tuesday of every month. That's right dino. Dan weighing in on what might be inspiring steven reich. Lynn hippie lettuce. I thought of a same. I don't think he's going down. Sam the cooking guys area of expertise in history. I don't wanna say that that's act. I don't know. I would be willing to guess but stephen and sam Defile oh the same enhancement roads. If you will by the way. I did see this coming across as well. A town like somebody might be lobbing a phone call in. That's the number. It's only been the number for the last ten years. I say at any number of times through the show to one six to two zero zero nine six six email is greg at the bbq central show dot com all right. Let's go ahead and make room for robert moss. I'll talk to you quickly. I though about primo grills the website. Premo grill singular. Premo grill dot com. Here's the difference between all the other ceramics and a primo premo vil. that's right. The shape is way different. So your eggs and your kamado joe's and all the other won their round course while you fight. 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Primo grill dot. Com is the website once again. That's premo grill dot com. We will be right back with first time. Guest robert moss right here on the show. You're listening watching the central jail. Stick around we'll be right back and powered stirred jim. Rome can patrick. And greg the mountain rushmore of talk show entertainment now. Let's get back to the barbecues. Central show this portion being brought to you by cook and pellets dot com your number one source for quality wood pellet for all of your pellet driven cookers you can visit cooking pellets dot com. That's the oh okay. I could pellets dot com for more information or purchase or to see what other products they have. You can also visit amazon dot com to purchase as well. We tried to let them see for the second hour and he said it's too much snow in wisconsin. I can't do it plowing and blowing. Whatever the hell else you do to remove snow out there in wisconsin. Hey my second guest tonight. In the first hour is one of the pre authorities when it to writing about southern food and drink. His most recent book is barbecue. The history of an american institution revise and expanded addition was released at the end of twenty twenty. So you like reading books you might want to go grab a copy and see what's changed since the first version of this book came out about ten years ago here to talk about a number of live fire. Topics is contributing barbecue editor for southern living magazine and first time here to the show we race. It hotline and welcoming robert moss. Hey robert hey greg how you doing. I'm fine and making time for the show. Glad to meet you virtually here. I've been meaning to get you on the show for some time. Now and you know like all my best laid plans. I being to do that. And then fifty other things come up and eventually it bubbles up and here. we are so Before we get into some of the barbecue that we wanted to banner back and forth about maybe just a quick background about yourself where you grew up in where you're headquartered at right now. Yeah while. I'm a south carolinian so i grew up in greenville south carolina and the western part of the state but i'm now in charleston down on the eastern part of the state. I've been down here since two thousand and two are almost almost two decades now but definitely a carolinian through and through i assume barbecue being a carolinian through through has always been something. You've been around or at least been taking part in some form or fashion. Yeah absolutely I i vaguely recall really small kid going to what you might call a pick pick and i don't know we if we call them them that back then but where there was all hog laid out in but i don't remember that that being barbecuing a huge part of growing up in in south carolina. I was in suburban. Greenville mostly And so is usually the occasional barbecue or stop by restaurants. Why that certainly wasn't until you. And that was the period this was in the eighties and nineties. When barbecue is pretty low in sinking on the american restaurant saying before it's a remarkable revival. So really wasn't. I was probably college age. That really started getting into barbecue too. Big way in the sense of i. You're eating at restaurants and then start to cook stuff backyard. Did you think that maybe barbecue was just going to go away. I mean it's been around for hundreds of years the traditions going all the way back to the slaves. Obviously but did you think it was going to go away. Well you know. When i discovered it in i i why i started becoming acquainted with it know when i was in college People did make a big deal about. It was really low under radar. Screen was just this food. There was often the often on the on the office on the side. And so i don't know if people even realized that it was fading out. You realize that you're about to lose it so it felt like at the time. Yeah this is a teenager. Is eating burger king and mcdonald's fast-food and all that kind of stuff. It sort of felt like ours discovering this sort of hidden secret Because it really was not well known at that time. It really wasn't until you know around the around. Two thousand that started the raisa competitions. You started getting rows a food. Television people start writing about barbecue. They really started coming back so it was almost like. I never thought about it enough to to think whether might disappear. There was something you sort of just this weird food yours or took for granted i think. Have you always been a writer Well i got. Phd's and things which is a strange way to get into writing barbecue beyond your. I didn't know what i was going to do. I ended up in the taking up that that and going into the software industry is so logical course course of events but i'll have always been a writer who've you as a hobby and stuff and it became more more of a Something i did on the side is is working this offering the and then we have a bigger bigger part of my my day and So no not always a food writer but always interested in writing in one form or another. Since i was bobby teenager. So i probably misspoke dr robert moss joining us here on the show robert f moss dot com is the website. If you want to check it out here while we're talking you have revised the book that i mentioned in the open because you said that so much has changed over the past ten years. I'm going to ask you a pointed question here in a second. Let me ask you this before we get to. Those pointed questions i refer. Let's say you're probably right around ten years ago. We were in the midst of what i would call the golden age of barbecue. And what i mean by that is it was everywhere on television. Pitmasters was but well into its wheelhouse. At that point it had already been seen in two or three different versions on. Various high numbered cable tele h. l. n. outdoor life. You know things that nobody ever went to unless you were a hunter. And i don't even know if anybody hunts you're seeing competition barbecue in its rudimentary forms. It was a chris lillian. Jon marcus brainchild getting on television. But then it really seems to catch hold with pitmasters in its burying forms over a ten or eleven season ron and that brought in a huge interest into the competition. seen Perhaps that brought even more attention to the restaurant scene and really showcasing those macos of barbecue. The carolinas texas. Kansas city and memphis was that like the best time of barbecue ten years ago twelve years ago. Fifteen years ago. I don't know in the book. It original book which came out two thousand ten. I called the nineteen fifties and sorta like the golden age of barbecue. Because that is when if you think of all the classic barbecue restaurants that you think of today a few of them go back before the The or two but most of them were founded in the fifties and sixties. That's sort of win. Barbecue dominated the restaurant saying this is before the rise of mcdonald's and everything else and those restaurants cooking would it was sort of a you know what we think of today is classic classic barbecue so that was definitely a high point but You know that period you're talking about is right when the book came out and barbecue was coming back from obscurity. low point with somewhere in the eighties where it almost almost disappeared as a as a restaurant food at least But competitions were coming along barbecue pitmasters and other shows really brought a whole new new load of people who aren't interested into it but i'm not sure if that was actually the the high point or not if you recall in round two thousand nine. I guess two thousand ten. When aaron franklin sort of hit it big and coincided with the rise of social media blogs and you know the internet making things move fast but that was really like when kraft barbecue is getting started. So you sort. Of had. The competitions heating up yet craft barbie coming along. But when i wrote the first edition of the book. I sorta ended on this sort of ambivalent note because barbecue was coming back but it was. It was still sort of different kind of Fusion in particular hog barbecue cooked over would that was disappearing even two thousand ten two thousand eleven. The there you can count on onto hands. They did number hog joints that were left in the united states. And then what's happened. Remarkably in the last ten years really last five years or so. Is you've seen this. A remarkable resurgence of not just texas central a central texas style brisket but revival hough revival interest in things like hash revival of in of Traditional barbecue so i would not if i'd say ten years ago was the golden age. I think we're still in it. I think it's it's still getting bigger and better with with each passing year so within those ten years of first book. Release until now. In your estimation what are the two or three biggest changes that we've had over the deck. Think the two two big things one is. When i first wrote the book very few people had written about the history barbecue in what was written was mostly. It was short and is mostly focused on early restaurants like restaurants in the early twentieth century but one relayed bit much about barbecue back before before. Nineteen hundred and what's happened. Since i wrote the book and i wasn't the only one but at the same time a lot of people are getting interested in it. We've had a lot more people right. Dig into the history and so we just know a lot. More about the history course history. At least we've just uncovered a lot more about it. So that was one reason to new new edition as i really was able to go back and flesh out the story a lot more and a lot more details so i think that's one big thing but the other one is really. The book came out. I i sent to the press about the same time as aaron frankel was opening up his trailer there on the side of the interstate in in austin and so we really have seen this remarkable revival white michael kraft barbecue or or serious new neo traditionalist barbecue In the in the last ten years and it's really changed the landscape a lot. It's hard going back and writing. That new chapter added about which covers basically the last ten ten years. I really it. A lot happened ahead forgotten about the space of religious ten years. So i think those are the two big things that have really changed a lot in in the last Last ten years. Do you think if aaron franklin wouldn't have come on the scene that we wouldn't have had the scene that we have been having. Wow that sounds really bad. Yeah that's like one of those big historical questions. I'd i don't believe in in the great man theory of history per se in the sense that if if aaron franklin hadn't come along somebody else would have there. There's so much else that was referring And other things were happening. He just sort of happened to be in the right place at the right time and and had the right look and everything and and sort of. I think you struck a chord. But i think the i think america is ready for you know that kind of old school traditional know sorta sore Very focused type type of revival and died. Sort of yoga. What happened at the same time that all of a sudden we got their net. We had social media in ways that these things can just just spend varley. What's really amazing. About how if you look back at how franklin blew up. He up so quickly in less than a year really a matter of months and it happened because daniel phone went down there back when your secret still before his texas monthly. I still think he's still writing blog and other bloggers and other people. You'd have to wait for a magazine to run. It hit the internet right away and people are you know think is a little bit before twitter but people were emailing sitting around it it. It blew up very very quickly if it wouldn't have been errand franklin. Do you have any guesses on who the face would have banned. Would've been to t at some point or what have been you know the guy kreutz who knows. You're probably not to see. Because i don't think people would have gone out and discovered snows if they hadn't i sorta gotten gotten really interested in in it. It could well have been the the lockhart places may may have done it I think sam. Jones from skylight in your. He's he's a good candidate because the difference between someone like a tootsie and aaron franklin is obviously their ages are different ones younger. Sort of your hip or sam. Jones is very different than than franken but he has that same kind of charisma and appeal Of course you know if you read this book and if you talk to him when he i sorta got into it and he wasn't he was very shy wasn't wasn't a made for tv. If will i think someone like that. In roddy scott's another good example. I think someone like that would have stepped up and emerges sort of the the face of the new barbecue revolution. If you will. where do you see. The next two to three years of barbecue was going to be a lot of the same. Or is it going to be even more growth across all sections. Yeah so horny to say for sure you know. Obviously the pandemic start at ranch and everything but barbecues actually compared to other restaurant Genres obviously you guys were struggling anybody else. But they've actually done well and you have a lot of people sort of moving into barbecue as sort of a more Takeout friendly format. You know i. I don't know for sure but i think you're seeing the The rise of a lot of new barbecue places. You barbecue hotbeds if los angeles is really interesting. What's going on out there. I think you may see some really cool stuff. Emerge out of los angeles in the next couple of years. All these pitmasters. They're sort of went to texas cribbed a brisket technique. But now they're going back and they're they're they're really digging heritage's they're they're they're starting to to sort of integrate barbecue with all the other flavors and and background that's in los angeles so there's a really interesting seen happening out there So we'll see but i. I think we wanna see a lot more barbecue operations open up a lot more interesting. Lords format outdoor kind of kind of venues. And things like that. And so i think it will continue to grow at least for the next couple of years brandon moss joining us here on the show robert f boss dot com is the website. One last question before i let you go tonight and appreciate the time robert. You're in what is the best barbecue in charleston. I think a lot of people immediately want to say something. That rhymes with rodney scott. Somebody who was there. Who is not rodney. Scott what do you. What is your opinion. Well i think. I lived through the rise of charleston barbecue and i first moved down here in two thousand and two at always point to the best is your family. So that's melvin investitures which is sort of the original Midland style south barbecue. So you're mustard sauce in your hash instead if you come to charleston. It's like you can't just go to one. You have to do a tour of all these these places. So that's you start there where the old school stuff if you go to. Rodney scott's place on on king street With in the last three or four years That is a different style as a pd style. South guy barbecue which the whole hog vinegar sauce barbecue it. You've got check. Swigging swine home team barbecue in ann lewis barbecue which assorted the three of the sort of newer players. On the scene. Lewis of course coming from austin's you can get really good brisket and a lot more here from him. The home team guys are interesting because they're a bunch of fine. Dining chefs who went into barbecue as order created a whole this whole interesting fusion of barbecue with traditional shafie stuff it has swigging so is just a really interesting barbecue places. Well guy came used to be a cook on marine came to the fine dining scene here in charleston. But now it's whole hog all kinds of other things here in charleston safe. You go get those. You're going to get a a really interesting cross section of south ghana styles and styles from all of you have any love for to smoke and butthead. Not sure who the to smooth guy told me. He was like the best barbecue restaurant. South carolina that people who smoke in butts competition. They also have a restaurant which part of south carolina south carolina. Not around me. check it out though it. They've they've got a good name on. I'll have to send you the pitmasters name and then may how big you know. I'm like every other american. I have no idea of geography. Other than where. I live in ohio so it could be eight hours away from it. I don't i don't even know if south carolina's eight hours long probably not. But maybe it's just too long. So i'll send you that you can do reconnaissance. We can have you back on and you can see if you want to add to the list of that point. In the meantime you can check out. Dr robert moss at robert f moss dot com. And you can also sign up for that newsletter. What's the newsletter that you're writing. It's called the chew sheet. It's a weekly barbecue. Newsletter comes out every sunday. All right so sign up for the cue sheet as well again. Robert half moss dot com is the website. Robert really appreciate you coming on tonight and letting us get to know you and talking about a few barbecue topics and look for to against it. Sure thanks. I appreciate you gotta. There is robert walks a robert moss dot com and sign up for the cue sheet. If you want a weekly newsletter do it right there. Yeah baby everybody wants to go. Rodney scott i now look. I don't think i was corns. Hoodwinked runamuck fan bozell by the guy from to smokin. Bud heads what's his name by the way i can't remember it right off the top of my head. He was a great interview but he said he had some really good south carolina barbecue. So we'll get that over to robert. We can check it out. We thank you for coming up first time. Let me talk to you. Quickly out cosmos as we get ready to wrap the first hour. Based out of oklahoma cosmos has been providing both backyard. Competition cooks world champion level rubs sauces injection soaks. 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