17 Burst results for "Regis Program"
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"You've got to show you've got something at a high level I know he you know he believed that a Canelo fight was gonna be in the offing when he signed with matchroom that was obviously disappointing but While a Munguia fight is nowhere near as lucrative It's more winnable. I think that's for sure like Munguia a very good offensive fighter But we saw in the fifth round of his fight with Sergei Derevinchenko He almost got stopped and Derevinchenko is a faded former middleweight contender So don't tell me Edgar Berlanga can't win that fight. Like I believe he can so I'm of the opinion that Edgar Berlanga has to find a way to say yes. He has to find a way to Feel like the money is enough for him to fight Jaime Munguia Maybe it's not gonna be exactly what he wants to be It's not gonna be in the three four million dollar range but he's got to find a way to take a couple of million bucks or whatever it is and get in the ring with Jaime Munguia Because and you can say the same thing about Jaime Munguia as well. That's a separate conversation. He's Another guy that desperately needs a top-level opponent These two guys need each other and I think both of them have to find a way to say yes What do you think? I think they I think you're exactly right I think they do need one another and I think that they make for a fantastic fight I think you and I have talked about this fight about three times on this podcast about how It just makes sense for both fighters, but it also makes for compelling television They both have fan bases that they bring to the table and for I think for both fighters Maybe more so for Berlanga because Munguia did you know just kind of have to prove his mettle in that Derevinchenko fight at the very least but Berlanga I think is now past the point where I Think he's at a point where he has to prove it a little bit more it in the early stages of his career Obviously, there was a lot of hype around him and people are willing to give him a little bit of a leash in terms of Proving himself, but now I think that Berlanga in terms of the court of public opinion. He's just in in full-blown skepticism territory and In order to convince people I think he needs a win like this and there aren't too many other fights out there That would do that for him and and particularly ones that would be all that profitable. So, of course I Empathize with any fighter trying to get a good deal what they think is worth it for taking a particular risk But I don't know what the other super lucrative fights are are out there for Berlanga and you know Let's say we're talking about, you know, 1.5 2 million dollars. Let's say to fight Jaime Munguia. I mean, that's a pretty good deal I don't know where else you're gonna get that You'll you'll have to fight two three times to do that But you might want to take a chance and I think if your match room You probably want to find out what you have right now because yeah There isn't that Canelo cash out fight for him on the table anymore You probably want to find out what you have and what better way to do it than in a fight like this that also Wouldn't be destructive to either fighter if they lost it because I think it would be an exciting fight no matter what and both fighters Would would get credit for taking the fight I think it would be positive PR win or lose for either fighter both these guys are in their mid-20s and I think we have to Move past the idea that a perfect record is the end-all be-all You know, I've seen many guys gain something from a loss and even if you lose and you're a little down your luck Well, all it takes is one or two fights to get right back at the top And I mean, I think look guy like tefima Lopez a great example 2019 he loses to George kambosis things look like they're falling apart for him He comes back moves up and wait to 140 now. He's talking about him as the number one guy in 140 pound division So I think we've got to move past this idea that guys need to be undefeated And you know, look, I think there's a perception among some people that Mongea would just steamroll them And look Berlanga did not look great against Jason Quigley, but Quigley was more of a mover Bert monkey is not right. He is gonna be there and he's gonna want to brawl with you And you know Edgar Berlanga, if nothing else has shown he has pop at that weight class. So I'd love to see it I think Berlanga has got to find a way to do it's gonna be interesting to see how that those Negotiations play out over the next couple of days and into the next couple of weeks because if if those guys reject each other What do you want to see them in like golden boys got nothing for Jaime Mongea Like you're gonna do a John Ryder fight like that doesn't do anything for me That's that to me is just as dangerous for Mongea as as Berlanga is, you know, if you're Berlanga you know all the top talents over at PBC and again, I know you thought that a Canelo fight was gonna be there but it's not so time to recalculate and have kind of your king-making moment Against time imma get we if you win that fight all of a sudden then you could start calling out Canelo You can start saying like look Canelo. I know you got business over at PBC, but I'll be waiting like I just beat time imma In trying to make that fight happen because that's an excellent fight a meaningful fight for both those guys Alright, so, you know Lando. No good. Sorry. I was just gonna say I mean when you say that they need one another Not only they need one another because the win would be great on the resume But Chris, I think there might be there are no two fighters at the sport I don't think this is hyperbole here that people love to slap that the hype job tag on then those two fighters Every you know every thread On Twitter on message boards about either of these two fighters is about out, you know, they're gonna get exposed You know, they this they're just a product of matchmaking They have a chance to silence some of that and and it would be through one another and by making any other decision right now I think you're just feeding in To that narrative and and you're confirming what people believe about you So they need to make they don't make this fight as much for just making the fight and saying hey I'm willing to do this as what the results of it would do for them. I'm in McGee is 42 and oh, he's 42 and oh and His most meaningful win was what Liam Smith? Yeah, I mean it's wild it's wild both these guys have made a lot of money and add a lot of success against lesser opposition Now is the time to find out what they both got now is the time not six months from now Not eight months from now right now before the end of the year We need to get high memo Gia and Edgar Berlanga in the ring against each other Alright, so we will be down in Orlando for the card headline by rich traditions and Jose's Apata Zepeda most people remember from a couple of things the absolutely absolute bonkers war where both guys got knocked down like 47 times and if that's the fight that eventually You know got the you put him on on the radar there So you got Jose's Apata against Richardson Hitchens and That is it's a big fight thing for Richard Hitchens to kind of show Where he is in the lightweight devar the junior. Well junior welterweight division He's a guy with a great jab coming off a terrific win over John Bowser in his last fight MSG knocked him down a couple of times one wide and all three scorecards Richardson Hitchens believes he is already a contender at 140 do you see him right now as a contender at 140? I think that he is Very capable of standing in there with with any of those guys at 140 right now now Does that mean that he has the resume to be concerned to be considered a contender? I mean you could debate that but you know depending on how you want to qualify who's in contention or not I think that he is I think that Hitchens has a set of skills that is going to be a Problem for anyone at 140 and it's the opposite set of skills the very opposite of what we were talking about with Williams Apata who by by virtue of volume and Physicality is gonna be a nightmare of a night for anyone well, Richardson Hitchens has an a plus plus plus jab and Guys that have that that can move that left hand around and do a lot with it They can make any fight ugly and also Hitchens has shown You know kind of an attitude a defiant attitude and a willingness to make ugly fights He says I don't care if you can't get past my jab. What are you gonna do about it? I he's willing to kind of be the bad guy and isn't compelled to make mistakes in there He's willing to play that safe game and with his dimensions and with the way that he can use that left hand He could be a nightmare for anyone He's very very sure of himself In talking to guys that have sparred with him and in talking to Chris Algieri you sparred extensively with them You know, he said like those are just not fun sessions No one looks forward to getting in the ring with Richardson Hitchens So yeah I think that this is someone that could be a problem for anyone and this is the perfect test for him and an established contender someone who will Threaten to bring something more out of him But if Hitchens can nullify someone like Zepeda Then I think we could be pretty certain of how dangerous he could be in this division. I agree On Hitchens. He's a guy had spent extensive time not just sparring with Chris Algieri, but also Shakur Stevenson who has been a long time training partner of his I'm not exactly sure if they trained together for this fight, but you know They did train together for the last one and that was the best we've seen from Richardson Hitchens I think it's starting to come into his prime right now He's a you know, 5 foot 10 140 pounder with a wicked jab. I mean you can just win just with those attributes I know you want to get knockouts and be spectacular But if you're tall long with an absolute piston rod of a jab, you're gonna have a lot of success in that division I think Zepeda is the right fight for him. I know Richardson Hitchens wanted that Montana love fight We kind of all did because there's been some bad blood between those two I don't I don't think Montana love really wants that fight anytime soon He's had a couple of opportunities to have that fight But Hitchens now gets Zepeda who's been right there kind of on the cusp of a world championship He lost a narrow decision to Jose Ramirez back in 2019 a controversial decision No less that was in Ramirez's backyard in Fresno and was a controversial finish. Then he lose the progre I thought I just fought the wrong fight against progre Corey. I thought like not to ever ever try to Get someone to fight in the same way, what was his name the guy that just beat progre We both called that fight in New Orleans. What was I'm blanking on his name. We'll think of it in a second But it was awful that the reason I remember his name is because the fight was so damn dreadful but that's You know boxing and moving is how you potentially beat a guy like Regis progre engaging with him is not and I know Zepeda has got kind of that that pride in him and wants to engage but That wasn't smart against Regis Pro He came back got a win so perfectly reasonable fight for Richardson Hitchens as as he tries to take his game To the next level so that might it's my long way of answering I do think this guy's a contender and I think this fight Against Zepeda if he makes it look as easy as he did Against John Bowser in his last fight, which is a tall task. Zepeda is a lot better than Bowser We're gonna be talking about a real contender. He kind of reminds me a little bit and you know not to get too complimentary We're talking about a guy that was you know, it's still coming up versus now the undisputed lightweight champion But he rides a little Devon Haney, you know, Devon Haney is more boxer than puncher He's a guy that operates behind a really good jab I think Devon's more dynamic, but I think Richardson Hitchens is gonna have a chance to To be really tough and world title fights in the real near future if he wins this fight on Saturday Yeah, and by the name that we're both forgetting was Dentalito Zaria. I've also tried to block that fight in my memory There are 20 punches landed in that fight and that was entirely Zaria's fault, you know, yeah how we fought that fight I mean listen, we want to do that No We had to fill airtime by talking about faints and you know things things that weren't happening. That was didn't look forward to that Yeah, don't ever want to relive that one. But you know to your point was Zepeda I mean, you know what he did against program. He was just playing to his strengths I mean Zepeda wants to be aggressive and I think that Yes, there as we've seen with Zaria there is a path to you know Being super negative and winning a fight against Regis program but that's not really in Zepeda's DNA and it's because of that that this is a nice matchup for Hitchens and If Zepeda can start to get close to him with more regularity than we've seen anyone get close to Hitchens Then maybe we'll see some of the other tools a little more from Hitchens as well Oh, you know we're talking about him as kind of you know Fort Knox of a jab or that you can't get past that lead hand but you know maybe Zepeda forces him to show some other tools with a little bit more regularity and that could be fun to see as well because ultimately Hitchens Won't be able to just jab his way, you know to a lengthy run as a title holder He is gonna have to show a little bit more and this is the type of fight where perhaps we will Get to see what he's capable of and and that I think will Give us a clearer picture of what his ceiling actually is Look Zepeda has three losses in his career and all three have been at or near The world championship level lost Terry Flanagan over in the UK He lost Jose Ramirez in Ramirez's backyard and then he lost to Regis program by 11th round knockout So he he's taken some some lumps But the guys that have beat him been the very best, you know in and around their weight class So he's a live dog, I think in this fight against Richardson Hitchens Enjoy all your favorite sports like never before with BetMGM sign up using code champion and receive up to $1,500 back in bonus bets if you don't win your first bet when you register with BetMGM You'll get instant access to a variety of parlay selection features live betting options player props and the best daily Promotions in the business and with BetMGM at your fingertips every play and every game matter more than ever Place your money line prop and parlay bets with the king of sportsbooks today BetMGM and game sense reminds you to play Responsibly and offer resources to help you make appropriate choices BetMGM.com for T's and C's 21 plus to wager Virginia only new customer offer all promotions are subject to qualification and eligibility Requirements rewards issued as non withdrawal bonus bets bonus bets expire seven days from issuance Please gamble responsibly gambling problem.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Regis Progray, Devin Haney. This is a fight that I think over the next couple of days is going to be made official. There's been a lot of reporting around it, supposedly going to take place in the Bay Area in early December. It'll be Haney's first fight at 140 pounds. It will be a title defense for Regis Progray. It was coming off a pretty lackluster fight in his last timeout, which Sergio may be the reason that Haney Progray is taking place right away. We saw Regis Progray against Zaria just kind of sleepwalk through that fight. A lot of problems with the movement of Daniel Lito Zaria in that fight. You know, and Bill Haney was sitting there ringside watching the father and trainer of Devin Haney. And this fight seems like it's on the cusp of being made official. Do you think going into this fight that Devin Haney, who has been a career long 135, is he underestimating Regis Progray by taking this fight? I hope not. I hope he's not underestimating him because Regis Progray is one of the best fighters at 140. And if you're going off his last performance against a tricky fighter, a boxer that didn't really want to engage in Zaria, and not only that, you did it in your hometown. I'm a big proponent of the hometown curse. You know, I hated it. Every other fighter, it just doesn't work. Look at what happened to Katie Taylor in the much awaited hometown return of the legend. I don't like it. Too much responsibility, too many commitments, and it happened to Progray as well. But as far as Haney goes, that's the best fight you can make at 140. So if it happens at 135 or 140, I would love to see it. I think Progray is one of the best fighters in both divisions. And he just needs an opportunity at one of these big names, one of these big opportunities at 140. I mean, he's a champion there again, right? He's a two-time champion at 140. There you go. So Haney move up to 140 and a crack at Rougarou's belt makes all the sense. Look, I give Haney a ton of credit for doing it. I mean, Devin Haney is quietly putting together one of the best resumes in boxing. Go back to what, 2019. I mean, quietly, because we talk more about Canelo's resume and Usyk's resume, and now Errol Spence and Terence Crawford's resume. I don't think enough people talk about Devin Haney's resume and what he's put together. I mean, when it was the fights he had against Jorge Linares, and then he beat Jojo Diaz when Jojo was kind of peaking at that time. He goes to Australia and beats Camposus twice in his backyard, then in his first defense of all those titles or his first defense outside of Camposus, he fights Vasily Lomachenko. I mean, this guy is talking the talk and walking the walk. I just, I think he's got to be careful with Regis' program, because I agree with you. I don't think that Progray's performance against Zaria is indicative of the kind of fighter that he is. I don't, I know you believe in the hometown curse, I don't. I think that's an excuse that some guys make. I mean, I think Progray made it, Jared Anderson made it. You bring up Katie Taylor, like I think Katie Taylor's bigger problem was Chantel Cameron was bigger, stronger, and maybe a little bit more skilled at this stage, especially at 140 than Katie Taylor was. I think the hometown stuff is a bit overrated, but I do think that Progray had problems with the movement of Zaria, and that makes me believe that Team Haney believes that their movement is gonna cause problems. Now Haney's not gonna run in the same way Zaria did, but he's gonna stick and move, he's not gonna engage, he's not gonna let the more natural 140 just blast away at him, and that's something that Progray's gonna have to figure out but this is an incredibly dangerous fight. I believe that Progray's the top guy at 140. I mean, Teofimo Lopez has got a belt and he had a great performance against Josh Taylor, but he has one fight at 140.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Saying, I wasn't comparing it. I was using that as an example. There were some people that were saying on paper, Ryan didn't deserve the fight, but he was just, he was that big of a star where the fight became huge. We all saw the numbers. So I wasn't, it's not the same thing. I'm shooting that down. He did deserve that fight. There's literally nobody else to fight. I didn't say he didn't deserve it. I'm saying some critics did. Now, you know, sometimes people say critics say, but there's really their thoughts too. So stop it, bro. Not me though. Ryan did deserve that. How about shrapnel has Rolly Romero taken over the last like month or so? Regis program brings him up. I didn't even ask Regis about Rolly. He goes, I don't want to fight Rolly, Rolly terrible. I want to fight everybody but Rolly. Rolly has taken fire. He's got a title on his shoulder and nobody's still, nobody wants to fight him. I mean, do you remember, did anybody see his last fight? Like, come on. That's a horrible, horrendous. Look, if it's a question of Berlanga versus Charlo, you know, Charlo has more of a case because he's still a title holder, which is ridiculous because it's now, well, it's now past two years since the last time that he fought and he's got a strong resume at 154. So he's got a little bit more evidence to point to as being deserving of a Canelo fight, but not that much. Like not that much. It's not like Charlo is this no brainer type of fight for Canelo to take. I think the only reason for Canelo to take is because Charlo is a champion, has a big name, would sell a lot of pay -per -views. And look there, I don't know too many people in boxing think Charlo would be competitive in that fight. It's been off for way too long. Some of the video you see of him online doesn't look great. So I just don't know that moving up to fight one of the pound for pound best is going to end.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Will now be the promoter of Regis program for cutting a deal with him just this past week. His first fight June 17th against Liam paro back in New Orleans back in his hometown and Regis joins me here on the show. So it's been a long journey for you over these last couple of years, but you have locked in with a major promoter. You've got kind of some structure around you, I think, for the first time in a little while. How are you feeling about this whole arrangement? I feel awesome. That's the word I can describe this whole situation. It's awesome. I mean, just everything going forward. I really never had a major promoter like that. I kind of, you know, since my pro debut, I got it out the mud. I literally just had to fight my web pages scrap and strap in my way. You know, luckily I became world champion the first time. And then I became a champion, the second time, but I just been scraping my way through things and I always had a hard road and I feel like, you know, I always felt like I should be way bigger. I mean, how many two time champions do they have in boxing right now? And you know, my name is nowhere close to being on that level right now. So now I just feel like with the signing with metron with Eddie, I feel like I'm finally going to get the exposure that I really deserve. Why is it taking this long in your mind for you to connect with a major promoter? As you said, you've been a world champion in the past. The only loss on your resume was a razor close decision to Josh Taylor on Josh Taylor's home turf. Why has it been this long for you without somebody big behind you? I mean, well, the first major promote I had was Lou de Bella.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Be pretty crazy. Yeah, I agree. And I quite frankly think Jake Paul would agree as well. All right, let's talk about the fight that you were supposed to be at this weekend, but we'll be covering for boxing scene remotely. A 140 pound fight Matthias versus Ponce, this has war written all over Keith. He got two guys that are just come forward, heavy handed kind of guys. It might not be the most technically most technical fight that's out there, but it feels like this has fight of the year contender kind of written all over it. What do you expecting in this matchup? You know, I spoke to both guys at length person and they said, both of them said the same thing. They expect a war, they expected. I think the words that Ponce used, which were translated to me, was going to be a high voltage affair and the fans are not going to be disappointed. I think they both expect that type of knock down drag out fight. A Subaru Matias is a guy who, you know, just comes forward he's a huge puncher, every fight that he has won as a professional has been won by knockout. He avenged his only loss to Petro Sena by just beating him down in the rematch last January. It was a competitive fight for much of it, but then he started beating him up and he knocked down a non in for the first time to non use career. And became the first opponent to stop him, he's a huge puncher. He comes to fight, you know, not much for defense that doesn't have the greatest jab. You know, but he's a huge puncher on say, you know, he looked great in that Lewis Ritz and fight. That's the biggest fight of his career. He went to Lewis Ritz's hometown, beat him up pretty badly, especially to the body, knocked him down three times in the tenth round and won that fight by TKO, and that's how he became the mandatory challenger for Josh Taylor's IVF title, which Taylor later gave up and then the IBS ordered him to fight Matthias for this vacant title. I think it's going to be a great fight. And it's under the radar because we didn't either guy is exactly a household name even among boxing fans, but people are well aware of Matthias because he's been fighting on PBC cards in recent years and he's Puerto Rican and it's kind of surprising that he hasn't become bigger because Puerto Ricans embrace all of their fighters and this guy can really really crack and he knocks people out. You would think he would be a bigger name than he is now, but maybe winning this title and getting into a bigger fight can do that for his career. But Ponce is going to be a I think Matthias is a four to one to favor it and he'd have to favor him to win the fight based on what he's done. Ponce hasn't fought the highest level of opposition. But again, that Lewis Ritz and fight and I'm not saying richins as good as Matthias certainly not to puncture that Matthias is, but to go to his hometown and do that to him was impressive, and that's been his toughest test to date. This is kind of a neutral territory, neither of them has anything to do with Minneapolis, Minnesota, which is the hometown of Jamal James who's fighting on the in the co feature. But I just think it's going to be an excellent fight. And that'd be great back to back weeks coming off of Nissan fight and of course the Lee wood, the dramatic ending to the laterally wood fight, because he built some momentum here in somewhat lower profile fights, but fights that fans will enjoy. That's a great fight. And to your point, in terms of bigger fights in the future, a lot at stake. I mean, a 140 is poised to become kind of a glamour division in boxing with the names that are in there already right now, whether it's Josh Taylor. Lopez reaches pro gray, of course, the title holder. But also with a 135 pounders, Devin Haney, Ryan García, they figured to be moving up before the end of the year. And if you can get one of those belts, the ibf belt, in this case, that's currency. Keith, that's like, you know, half a $1 million payday $1 million payday guaranteed in probably your next fight, whether it's in a unification fight or you're fighting against one of those top guys like a haney or Orion Garcia. So, you know, financially, if there's a lot at stake, I mean, both these guys want to become title holders, but I would think the money is in the future money is even more important at this point. Yeah, as much as we, you know, criticize there being for it and I guess 5 if you recognize the IBO, there are too many titles, but these titles are very valuable to the fighters because they'll make much more money by defending even if Subaru Matias loses what you say he wins on Saturday night and he goes and defends the title against a higher profile to whoever it might be. He's going to make a lot of money so these titles are very valuable to the guys and it's going to be a fun fight, like I said, Chris and I think you get some bang for your buck on Saturday night. Well, except Regis prograde was kind of like holding his title up going like does anybody want a title shot? Well, I don't know if I'd want to fight Regis program either if there were paths to a title like if you're too female Lopez and I'm not saying he couldn't beat Regis program, but you know there's been some slipping into your fema and his last fight he didn't look particularly good. But I would rather fight Josh Taylor and Lopez is willing to go over to the UK and do it. Even to Glasgow. So I've been told that that that's possible that that fight would be in the U.S. also. But whatever the case, if you're him, that's the higher profile fight and then maybe he would fight Regis program after that and the title unification fight, but pro bray is one of those it's not that there's no reward because he has one of the titles and people obviously know who Regis program is, but that's a tough fight, man. I mean, look what he just did to Jose zapata, who had no one at Zappa had been knocked down, you know, multiple times by Ivan barancik, but he got up and knocked him cold to win the fight. But no one had done that piece of paper. So, you know, program is still somewhat in the prime of his career. I believe he's 33. Man, it's going to be tough to get people to sign up to fight him, particularly when he's not with, you know, if he were with top rank in his fights to run ESPN, you're getting this great exposure, or if he was with PBC and the fights are on showtime, whatever the case might be, he's not even really affiliated with a promoter that has a TV deal in the U.S. and that last fight was an independent pay per view. You know, so unless someone's putting up a decent amount of money for you to go fight him, people are going to steer clear of him. Yeah, and not to make this about program, but I can understand his frustration. Like if he came within what a .2 points of beating Josh Taylor, a few years ago, he wins that fight, you know, he's on the path to undisputed, probably would be undisputed. At this point and a marquee guy with multiple options in terms of promoters and networks instead, he loses that fight in a close way and has been kind of in the boxing wilderness ever since. He gets the world title shot. He wins the world title, and now he's, he's still looking for something. I mean, I'd love to see a Jack Adderall fight get put together. That fight makes some sense. You could do it over in the UK. Has earned an opportunity at a world title shot in the aftermath of the Taylor fight and all the postponements for that. I don't know that it's doable. I know that they've explored it internally, you know, we'll see if the money is there for it, but that's a fight. I'd love to see put together over in the UK. It makes it makes a good amount of sense. Last thing for you Keith, you know, it seems like every week, two weeks, we wonder about the future of Gennady Golovkin. It was a couple of weeks ago. He vacated his IVF title at a 160 pounds. It sure sounds like or seems like that his WBA belt is going to go the same way. There is going to be at some point a purse bid calls for a purse bid for a fight against eris landy Lara, who is the secondary title holder. I don't think gallop did would shy away from that fight. He better pay him for that fight, and I don't think the money is out there for a showdown with our slendy Lara. Like what's your read on galav kin future? I mean, I talked about this with other people, you know, before we vacated IVF title now here we are and we could head into March with golovkin either about to be or being a non title holder. You
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"I wouldn't have fought anyway. I'm telling you right now, this is what it is to be a calculating decision maker as a boxer and the people that control your career. So no, I wouldn't advise them to fight cater all because it's just the wrong style matchup. Go for the bigger name. Tio female Lopez, a former undisputed champion. Had all the belts, he beat the loman, chanco. He's a name. That's who you want on your resume, a former champion that's gonna still be Celtic tickets is popular and teal female, whether he still having his issues, he's still having his personal problems. Those are always gonna be their lingering. So he's gonna be there right for the picking. He's ripe for the picking. So I think Josh sailor is an incredible talent, incredible talent, and he should go after another incredible talent. That's vulnerable mentally and so yeah, that's a fight to make. You know, I somewhat disagree that TF femo is vulnerable. I think too much was made of how difficult the fight against sandor Martin was, like Tana Martin is going to be a difficult opponent for everybody. It wasn't just that it wasn't just that performance. He lost the kids. It's his personal life. Got a lot going on there. But I think he's capable of bouncing back and being an elite guy at one 40. I do. I do alleviate the goods for it. I think a Josh Taylor matchup is a lot better for him than what a Sandra Martin matcher would be. Josh Taylor at least will try to bang with him a little bit in that fight. And that's, you know, I think TFE has the size at one 40 to be able to do that. I mean, I do. Yeah, but cambos is banged with him and was able to hurt and drop. There was a lot going on to him. Well, there was going to be more. There's going to be that's exactly what I mean. There's going to be a lot of more, like he was going through a divorce at that time. He had a bad weight cut at that time, that fight had been postponed like three times. That doesn't excuse anything. He lost fair and square in that fight. But I think he's going to, I think taya fimo, if he's an underdog in that fight, and he probably will be, I think he's a very live underdog in that fight. But to the point of the question, I do agree with you. I think this is the right move. To fight Jack katara again, was for ego, right? And you know it was because he dropped all the other belts. Yeah. Just so he could be in a position to defend a title against Jack Adderall. So with teo female on the table, it's a bigger money fight. It's a more relevant fight and it's a better fight for him to potentially win if they fight in June. I feel for Jack casserole, but you know this was around social media. I think Jack haddal could put it together and fight, Regis prograde. That's a good fight for Jack. I don't think pro grade will face the man. Backs off on cataract and protocol attack. I don't think he will, but programs are begging for a fight. Too smart. He's way too smart to take that fight. You think Jack had a role as Muhammad Ali, what are we talking about? I think he's too much risk. What's the reward and beating cataract? You fight. And it's a marketable fight in the UK. Who's been saying busy? Program's been saying business. He has nobody can fight. He is manager. I haven't had a man. Stay busy, get paid. How? Big names. It doesn't matter. It does matter. You don't get paid to fight just anybody. Anyone in the top 15. You want to pull up the top 15 rankings for, yes, please. The WBC. And I'll tell you right now, please. You have to make her. So you think, all right, we'll do this right now. It shouldn't be cad or I'll tell you that. A short, strong southpaw that's confident and he's just waiting for that phone call to fight a big name and strike again. It's just like he saw Cruz. After he tank Davis, why is nobody calling me? People did. Of course, Stephenson asked to fight him. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Of course, he was one of the crew said no. Like, all right, that pit bull has been passing on some fights in the last that doesn't take away from the fact that he's a good fighter. He did. So, of course, Stevenson was publicly calling him out. Everyone's avoiding Stevenson. They're speaking two different things. We just program is number one. The WBC champion, right? So you go down the list. You got taffy ma Lopez. He didn't want that fight. Sandra Martin, you want taffy, you want to fight Santa Martina gonna be the next guy? No, get in the ring with Santa Martin. No. You got Gary Antoine Russell. Who knows no one knows? No idea there. Jose zapata, we've gone down that road before. Sergey lippin yes. Oh, there you go. How about that? José Ramírez didn't want it, Ryan García's on the list. Arnold Barbosa, that's not bad. Those are the good fight, but I rather take lip knits. It has more experience with the bigger names. You know, he's been in there with what Mikey Garcia. So it doesn't matter if you got knocked out by Mikey Garcia. He fought a four division world champion, so being able to beat a name like that. That makes sense. Steve spark? No. He thinks Steve sparks great because what's his name, Montana, love through him on the ring through him off the ring, but now I don't like that fight. Brett and Lee on that list. We're back at the bottom half the top 15. The point is if you think Jack Jack hadal is a good fighter, not a great fighter. And if there's money on the table to fight Jack Adderall and defend your title, you do it. You do it. Why wouldn't you? Because it's a wrong style matchup. I'd rather WBC would rather fire all ranked. How is that possible? Fight a snooze fest against a nobody. You don't get paid for those fights. Regis program has no promoter. I know he doesn't, and that means more money in his pocket. He said, he's still making a lot of money. Would you like to FaceTime Sam cajkovsky in here? Or he just programs manager and ask him if there's a lot of money out there for Regis right now. It's not. It doesn't take away from what he is, but there's not a lot of money out there for him because guys don't want to fight him. José Ramírez said, nope, I'm going to go fight Richard Comey. Tampa, I'm a Lopez, said, nope, I'm going to go fight Josh Taylor. You got to go down the list to find guys willing to fight, Regis pro gray. Is that much of a beast, man? I mean, that's why you got to fight cataract. If there's money in the UK to fight, if you take it, we're just probably going to be the favorite against caterer, you know, that Regis might be the best guy I want to. Yeah, but then he's going to give up, first of all, he's going to be fighting another southpaw and that's difficult. And then you're fighting a Brit in oh man, I don't know. I just think there's better options. He should stay in the U.S., keep doing what he's doing. He fights whoever they put in front of him, so whoever they put in front of them here in his home country, I think that's what you should do. Look, I'd love to see it. I don't think there's any money for it. Like maybe in a cataract to fight in the U.S., I don't know if you can do that. There you go. So you do it in the U.S. because then at least you would have some judging in your favor. If you go, if you go to the UK or anywhere in the UK, you're going to have the fans against you and you know they're rabid fans. They come out in the tens of thousands. Every punch is going to be a new one at all. So you have the fans against you, then you're going to have to judges against you and the referee against you too much too many cards stacked against you. So yeah, if is willing to come over here, then that's a different story. 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"All right, José Ramírez is the former 140 pound champion. An ordinarily, I'd be talking to Jose before a big fight has been involved in a number of big fights over the last couple of years. The world boxing super series where he was a runner up lost a close tough fight to Josh Taylor. He fought Maurice sucker at a terrific fight back in 2019. So he's been involved in a lot of big fights over the last few years, but we're talking right now because there's a fight. It's not happening, specifically José Ramírez against Regis program. I want to unpack some things with Jose because when negotiations fall apart, Jose, yeah, guys get on Twitter and you've got managers battling back and forth and everybody seems to kind of get confused over what actually happened with the breakdown of talks between you and Regis program. So start there from your perspective, what's happened over the last week or so that has led to your decision and your team's decision not to go forward with a fight against Regis program? Yeah, well, first and foremost, the team is aware and my manager is aware that I still haven't made a decision clearly to walk away from this fight, you know? You know, I believe I believe we just progressed. I believe that I'm one of the stronger fathers in the one quarter, you know, used to be up close and my style of boxing is not just come forward. I have an experience in the amateur since the amateurs, second to none, you know, became an Olympian, follow the 200 fights, and be a lot of styles. A lot of different styles. Being an aggressive sort of Mexican style come forward, no defense. You don't become an Olympian for Team USA, having that type of style. And you got to learn how to box in how to hear naga hit, especially when you're on the panel three rounds. You know, usually. Old school style Mexican boxing usually, you know, it works out on the professionals that you have 12 rounds to break down a fight or not through. Usually a lot of fighters that have that style are struggling the first couple rounds and because of the wrong condition and other aspects and other characteristics that they might have as a fighter, they end up winning the fight, you know? I'm not that case, you know? I have to have a great boxing believe I have a great box of style that in great power and my size and I'm physical physically strong, you know? Even the undisputed fight with Josh Taylor, it wasn't my best performance. I think there was an the Jose rumors that I know I could be.
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"Whoever is around José Ramírez wants this pro graphite. I don't think they ever did. I don't think they want it now. There's no reason for top rank not to go out sign Regis pro grade. Like he is aligned with pro bellum right now, but like that's sort of like a weird arrangement. I think that pro gray is available to be signed to a co promotional type deal to work with. They could pick him up and do multiple fights with Regis program. But they don't want to do it. And because they don't want to do it, I think they want to keep these 140 pounders within their universe. That means take a few more Lopez against the winner of Taylor caterham, assuming Taylor wins and then maybe Regis pro gray fights the winner of that down the line. I don't see any scenario where we get Ramirez against pro gray. One thing I would say if you're pro gray, like, call the bluff of team Ramirez here. Like, if you're Regis pro gray, how much does it really hurt you going up to 40% and say like you said you do the fight at 40%? How much would it will you actually do it? Like, because if you're Regis pro grey, again, I don't know who he's going to fight. He's not going to get anybody on the top ranked side of the ledger. There's nothing really for him in that matchroom golden boy universe right now. You go overseas and maybe take a fight. No, I got an idea. I was looking down the box rec ranking. He's trying to make heads or tails of who's available and who's doable. And there's two guys, three guys actually, that stood out to me as conceivable. I'm not saying they're going to happen. One was, Sergey Libyans was coming back down to a 140 was a champion. He has a victory over Omar figueroa since the loss at welterweight.
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"My scorecards are always perfect and everybody always agrees with me, so. Oh, me too. I wouldn't know the feeling. I wouldn't know the feeling on that. I never hear from his own watchers about the scorecards. All right, I want to jump into what's become a messy situation with a 140 pound title, at least the WBC's version of it. Just a couple of months ago, really one month ago now. We had Regis pro great win the WBC's version of the title becoming a two time 140 pound champion terrific performance in that fight against Jose pedraza. Excellent performance. And Jose. And he kind of looks, Jose is a penis, or I just saw pedraza. So looking at his future now, he was hoping to get a fight his next fight against José Ramírez. The WBC rules that the purse split is going to be 60 or 70, 30 originally in favor of Regis program. That was altered to be 65 35. Ramirez not happy with that. Has withdrawn from negotiations for that fight. The WBC has ruled that pro grade can take a voluntary defense, though I don't know who program would fight at this point. Nor do I think he wants a volunteer defense at this point. What do you make of Ramirez's decision to back out of this fight? It's disappointing. It's almost like they went into this conversation thinking 65 35, huh? Like they had no idea what was going on, which is just not true because the general consensus in the WBC mandatory fights is a 60. It is typically a 70 30 split. There are many occasions where they will amend the purse split and make it 65, 35. Occasionally they might boost it to 60 40 depending, but that's not the most common thing. And so people should, first of all, a couple of things about that, Chris. Number one, the purse split is just in the event that it goes to a person. There's nothing that says it has to be a certain percentage if the two sides during the course of their allowable time frame to do a private negotiation come up with whatever formula they come up with. So that was only in the event if the teams couldn't make the deal. So they had every opportunity to make a deal. As you mentioned, program I'm sure would be have been happy to negotiate with them and I feel like top rank, which is the promoter for José Ramírez would have been willing to negotiate a deal as well. So I kind of find that to be a cop out. They didn't go to a person. That doesn't feel like there was ever a true negotiation. Number one, number two, back before Regis progra got the opportunity to fight as a paid for the vacant title. The fight that had been ordered when Josh Taylor vacated was to fill that vacancy between José Ramírez and Jose zapata, which was which would have been a rematch of an extremely difficult fight that José Ramírez had when he was
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"He knows his strategies. It's just, you know, when you lose, you got to blame someone. And that's how it is. That's how it is in boxing. Sometimes fighters and trainers, especially new pairings, don't work. I mean, the manual Stewart is one of the great trainers of all time. He was oil and water with Miguel cotto when they trained together. Freddie roach has worked with some great fighters. But him and Vladimir Klitschko wasn't the same as him and Manny Pacquiao. There you go. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. I do wonder if buddy and dillian are the right match. But to spin this forward, we're gonna get dilly and white versus Anthony Joshua. But I don't walk away from white Franklin thinking white Josh was gonna be competitive. I mean, even if it's a diminished version of Joshua, I think he's just gonna walk right through Dylan white. I don't know if you I think you're wrong, no. Really? No, I think but because Dylan white always. He's always in a good fight, even in his losses where he came up short. Maybe you accept for the Tyson Fury one, but again, Joshua, against wasn't really competitive fight against Joshua. But he was slinging the punches. He was yelling in them. It was an entertaining fight. There was interesting moments in that fight. And what was his other loss? It was Tyson Fury. Joshua, but that he came back and starched in. So and he was winning that fight against vivekananda. Exactly. So he's only lost on the championship level. So I think it'd be fights Joshua, you're wrong. And I think he brings that motivation and everything he learned from those championship losses and experience against a vulnerable, mentally, mentally vulnerable fighter in Joshua coming off a loss. We don't know what he's going to have. Yeah, man, I like that fight. I think if this was 5 years ago, I probably agree with you. But I think at 35 years old and having been knocked out in two of his last four fights, I think there's not a lot left, at least at the high level from Dylan white. A better fight this past weekend was Regis pro gray against Jose zapata. Progra for some reason has been just ignored by the major promoters. Like, can't get a deal with matchroom. Can't get a deal with top rank. Can't get a deal with golden boy. Before there's a pay to fight Sergio, he had fought one time in the last three years. Three times in the last three years. And I've always wondered why. This is an entertaining American power puncher. Like, why was this guy not welcomed into the club of top guys at one 35 one 40 and one 47. Then he goes out against the PETA and shows me why I'm right in a way because it was entertaining. He dominated and he had a spectacular finish at the end. I think right now. And one 40s is one of the best divisions in boxing. I think right now you can make the argument that the best guy at one 40 is Regis pro gray. He was nip and tuck with Josh Taylor, lost the close fight over in the UK against Josh Taylor. And then he goes out and just stops zape, a guy that's won some pretty high level fights over the last few years. Is Regis pro gray now, the man at one 40. No, he's number two. The man is Josh Taylor, the man is the man who I can be. The man that beat pro girls, I mean, it was a very close split decision. But look at Josh Taylor, another guy that's inactive and kind of going under the radar as far as coming off a bad win over cataract. We'll see but look at who he's fought his last 6 opponents have been undefeated opponents. What is a Jack cataract defeated Ramirez undefeated? Undefeated, Regis program defeated baron chick undefeated. That Martin character undefeated, Victor postal. Come on. That's a great, great resume. It does. You give me another undisputed champion or another champion that has that kind of a record back to back to back undefeated fighters. You're not getting it. So pro gray is the man at one 40. He's now a two time champion, and I agree with you how he's flown under the radar so long. I don't get it. I think Luther Bella promoted him to Bill Adam. So he did have a major promoter under a little bit one time. Lose a very big promoter, but he doesn't have the power anymore that some of the network TV deals. That's what it comes down to. Okay, the network right. So you know, there's so many networks I just think pro gray is he's a man that I really like I really like program, not only is fighting style but outside the ring the way he carries himself the way he's an excellent champion, I just think he's one he's a southpaw, a lot of promoters kind of like pushing other they try to avoid southpaws. It's hard to match them. And he just a damn good fighter, man. A damn good fighter that enter on a probably market of a move them well, but after this performance was a paid up, you can bet that people are going to allow everyone damn right damn right line up for the opportunity to fight him. And it's my understanding that José Ramírez and his team do not want to face pro gray in their next fight. I think there's going to be something a little softer for José Ramírez, but offer a while at this point. But if he passes, then you could be looking at pro Greg it's KFC mo Lopez in the first half next year. Daffy mo Lopez is next in line as mandatory challenge. I talked to a female this week and he said, if that fight is offered to him, if he beats sando Martine in a week, he will take that fight. And I hope he's right. I hope he top rank and everybody wants because that's another great thing. And it's a fight that can be made because progra wood is a free objectively afraid. It works. Okay. He's a free agent, so show them the money, ESPN, and top rank have the money. And him will be explosive. That would be a great fight. I mean, yes, sign me up for that one. And be a full bull title fight now that pro agrees a champion, so teal female is going to have all the incentive to actually have a chance with a hard punching very good southpaw that's now a champion. So I love that point. Bring it on. It's such a great division right now because you've got the guys that are there, pro gray, Taylor, Ramirez, Lopez. Then you've got the guys that are going to be there in the next 6 months to a year. Ryan García, Devin Haney, maybe some others at one 35. It's a fantastic division that I hope these fights all get made. I think they can be made because the politics are a little cleaner with some of this stuff. Yeah, but the question was, is he number one? And I say, no, he's not. Ruru is number two. Which is fair. I think it's fair. He lost the fight. And I don't think there's any real disputing we lost the fight. It was very close, but he lost that fight. All right, let's talk about some of the fights we have coming up this weekend. Tyson Fury is over in the UK taking on Derek dessert. He's gotten a lot of heat for this fight, Sergio. Like, he's gotten some criticism for taking on chisora. I don't really blame him for it because he did want to and tried to make the fight against Alexander usuk but usuk said, you know what? I'm gonna wait till early next year. Let's some injuries heal. There were discussions for a fight with Anthony Joshua, but come on. Making Joshua against fury in like 6 weeks didn't make any sense. You need Joshua to get a win and then next summer, if fury's undisputed at heavyweight and Joshua was on like a two fight winning streak, that still once again the biggest fight you can make in all of boxing. So I don't know about you, but I didn't have a real problem with chisora as furious. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. We did it in the episode of jabs when you asked me who should Tyson Fury stay busy with. I set your sore and he said, what, for what? I'm going to bring it up again. You can find it. But on an episode of jab in such a sora makes no sense, is that absolutely it makes sense. He always comes to fight. I mean, that's what you saw. People love him in England. He can pack out a crowd. It's a stay busy fight better than being inactive waiting for us. And I think some unknown Germans. And I did not shit, chat, past tense, shat on that matchup, and you said no, chasseur was old, he's already. He's already beaten him twice. No one wants to watch it. Now you're recanting. That's a word recanting what you said on jab. I'm gonna have bob a producer bring that up because on jabs, you shet on that fight. I said, no, man, stay busy, stay working. People love to soar and make sense until wilder Joshua or usyk become available and the gypsy king gets at that another a side a side versus a site. Fits the bill. You can have bob find the clip on your computer, which doesn't work. You're like hansel from zoolander with that computer.
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"With Chris Manning. How's somebody punch him in the face? Anthony Joshua is a composed and ferocious finisher. Watch this. Hosted by SI's Chris mannix. That was my moment. Now with interviews, analysis and everything going on in the world of boxing. When you have talent, you are given another chance. Here's Chris mannix. All right, it's a big fight weekend over in the UK. The heavyweight championship on the line Tyson Fury going up against dillion white. A lot of other things happening in boxing. For that, we're gonna go over to the UK to one of my favorite boxing insiders out there. Mike Carpenter, the boxing insider over at ESPN is going to be covering the fury white fight for ESPN, which can be seen here in the U.S. on ESPN+ pay per view. Mike, how was your early experience over in the UK? Great. Fans here are amazing. This is my third fight in London. I also covered the Anthony Joshua Alexander probe in fight in 2018. I Wembley, which I know you were on the broadcast for for the zone. And then again, the new year later, when Josh Taylor Ford Regis program at the O2. But this one feels a bit different so far already. You know, we've all heard that he heard bastardizing furious a is not a star here. I mean, I think the proof is in the pudding. Fury with his, you know, I think it's four fights in the U.S. has really transformed himself into a mega star over here. With those two big wins over Deontay Wilder courses charismatic personality and they're going to have about 94,000 plus on Saturday and I mean just the presser yesterday was a madhouse. Boxing is just so much different over here as you know. It's treated as a major sport and not very, very much so in the U.S. except on rare occasion. What do you attribute that to the ticket sales? Like you said, the 94,000 plus that are going to be at Wembley because I don't think I'm sure you agree that I don't think before Tyson Fury made his way to the U.S. to have the fights against wilder. I don't think he does this number in the UK three or four years ago. I agree with you. I think it's a combination of factors. I think you have to be Anthony Joshua a lot of credit. Anthony Joshua being on the UK boxing scene. I think lifts fury as well..
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"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"When you're spending that kind of money on original programming, you just don't have the money to go after the acquisitions to have a portfolio of rights that HBO used to have. I mean, thank God HBO was able to get the rights that it did early in its history when the competition was in his fierce and the price tags weren't so high. But you can kind of start to see in 2000 the fact is a lot of this money is going to be shifting over to original programming. It's not going to be a priority for us. And as a result, I think you used the right word. I've said it myself and I think it's the subtext in what I write about it. It was sad to see it go, because HBO sports was a big deal. It was a unique creature. It wasn't as vast as ESPN. It wasn't as vast as ABC wilder sports. You know, they had a page from their playbook stolen from them about sports documentaries by 30 for 30. But you still kind of like wanted it around. You know, you still wanted to see what they would come up with. And so they have a much more limited agenda right now. They don't have the lampley's of the world. They don't have the Tyson's other world. They don't have, you know, a lot of things that they used to have. So. Sometimes progress sucks because you know it's just like you want those old days of innocence where you know they were like literally when HBO covered Wimbledon, Chris, they put the tapes on the freaking Concord to get it back in time. So they could show it before anybody else. We had coverage of weekdays at Wimbledon. I mean, I don't know, not to sound like somebody who's nostalgic, but I miss those days. I kind of do as well. And if HBO boxing has a legacy, it's that everything they did was taken and adopted by somebody else, you know, whether it is the 24/7 vehicle, all the stuff they did in the corners. You mentioned the documentaries inside the NFL. Inside the NFL was, I mean, look, no offense against Sunday countdown and all these other shows that are ubiquitous now, but they had that before anybody else. And that was, you know, that was a big deal as one of their longest running shows. In fact, Dave harman worked on it. His father worked on it. It was appointment television for a lot of football fans. And when that went away, that was also a heartbreaker. Well, Dave harman and avid listener this podcast will be happy to know that you approved of his work there. Well, he deserves it all, man. He does. The book is tinderbox, HBO's ruthless pursuit of new frontiers. We only covered a fraction of what's in there. Jim, tremendous stuff, always great to catch up with you and thanks for joining me. Thank you, man. Thank you. Thanks a lot. When we come back, my conversation with Regis program. Support for this podcast in the following message come.
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"This is boxing with Chris Manning are somebody punch him in the face. Anthony Joshua is a composed and ferocious finisher. Watch this. Ruiz is the heavyweight champion. Hosted by SI's Chris mannix. That was my moment. Now with interviews and analysis and everything going on in the world of boxing. When you have talent, you are given another chance here's Christmas. All right, welcome back to another episode of boxing with Chris mannix part of the volume sports podcast network. We have an amazing show for you this week. The demise of HBO has been a popular topic amongst boxing fans for some time now. James Andrew Miller, who is one of the great oral historians of our time has written terrific books on ESPN, Saturday Night Live. He did a deep dive book on HBO including the rise and fall of boxing at HBO. James joins me on the podcast to discuss that very topic. How HBO got into the business and how ultimately HBO quietly got out of the business. A little bit later on, Regis program, the former 140 pound champion, he has been relatively quiet in 2021. That is not a lot of fighters have been willing to step up and to fight him. I talked to Regis about that about his new deal with the fledgling promotional outfit and what he hopes to accomplish in 2022. As always, best way to support this podcast, get over to Apple podcasts, post a comment, leave a rating, it's simple, it's easy, it's free. It's the best way to make sure that we keep doing this podcast week after week. That's it. All right, onto the show. All right, there's no greater writer of oral histories, among other things, than James Andrew Miller. He's the author of books like powerhouse, live from New York, these guys have all the fun. His latest project is tinderbox, HBO's ruthless pursuit of new frontiers, which you can pick up everywhere that you buy books and Jim Carrey, because you want me here. On the show, Jim, let's just start before we get into the boxing part of this, which is obviously what I want to dive into. The name was interesting to me right off the bat. Why tinderbox, because I think that, you know, look for the past 49 years at different incarnations and different key inflection points in its history. HBO has been flammable. It's been one of these things that not only ignites change within the network itself..
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"I just feel empty without then the daylight awful hey fighters running around here will belts and stuff like that. And i can't go to a new way class at night. That's really when the main reason so in a matter who it was it was the champion and go me. How do you feel at one thirty compared to six I feel i feel like at twenty six hours a lot bigger than people. So twenty six even not joe a it was kind of like i was fighting gunfire solid by. Everybody finally get to see that. He's a convertible on. I felt bigger. Like i like bigger firing on as when i moved to win thirty nine started for like a smaller guy on the smaller guy in the ring. Even with this flight. I feel like jamila. Harun is naturally the bigger fighter. I realize that really don't make much though. Li skillful we got me on skills are gonna carry me to these way assuming. I should be straightening anyway. Glad that i get into. I spy guys like regis programming walks around super big. But i i can sit there and work. Have many rounds. You wanna work with him so on way don't really mean nine what's what sparring with regis program like is actually fine. I'm not gonna lie. Israel point I super tough do like we watch his last night. I was thinking he looked like scharping boxing. Stuff like that but then again the rigging spy on light you know he to fight the you're not going to be real skillful especially like my like me. I'm the risk for friday night. Set names out on break. People purview down and stuff like that. But we're home is like he's coming in there to make me work like he gotta make me just like a be that kind of man kind of bring the best out of me to. Why is he made me work now. I got working like no time to a street fight. Ed todd turned to fight job through As big as jamila is. He's a bigger one thirty. After coming down from one thirty five i would imagine. No one's physicals reaches program. As far as i can tell him he's lighter weight classes. He's a of china shop sometimes. My nobody's physical and he's tough. He's a any you of is like you know you expect like a black friday. It'd be a boxer but he comes in punches and bringing his wade in wrestling. You know we fight in the last couple around we dig in and you know this great workman you gotta learn a lot from experience like that. I mean a championship guy who fights that style. Yeah i i've been doing so yeah. I realize i've inspired we crawford and then working with these kind of fighter so say that's really play much part. I thought it was interesting at the press conference to announce this fight a little while back. You told everyone. Like listen. Jim melanie or not friends. Like we don't know where this narrative came from but he's a cool guy. We share some mutual acquaintances but we are not friends. What what is your relationship with. The thing is i. Don't be with them. I ain't really beef out with him but They they try to make a saying like friends become enemies. And i just did disagree with that because it's like that never my friend like i did in college like you'll let us. You wanna fight all how we this like..
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Also the budget for that fight you know is much larger budget than it is for a fight like saturday night so in order to put together that kind of budget you need more promoting behind it to generate that kind of money and it's not enough time. This fight was done within like a five week. Notice night enough time. Five is night enough time to promote to fully promote a big fight. Like a pro and myself would be so we couldn't couldn't get that deal done But that is the the fight that was most interesting to me and there was actually talked There was brought to my attention since like mayor. june As a possible. You know next opponent. But because of the pack as attrition our still kind of waiting on that You know no regrets. We moved on now from the pack out. Now we're pushing to get something else. produce was not available because of the business behind it. So we landed on on martin. Is it your understanding that if things go well for you on saturday. That fight against redes- can be revisited in the first quarter of next year. I i believe so. That's actually what you know me and my team have talked about. You know getting this done if everything goes well. And i'm not her not injured Then push right away to to try to secure a fight with regis program you know. Get back into those conversations And try to get that fight next. You are someone that consistently chases big fights like. You don't want soft touches. You don't want tuneup. Fights was just important for you to get back into the ring. Get something going before the end of the year. And before eventually moving onto a fight against regis. Yeah look i. I honestly i like this. That's not title fight. That's not really somebody that's going gonna help me. You know Positioned myself for anything much bigger or anything. Like that doesn't motivate me. It doesn't do it for me doesn't excite me And it's just it's just a fight for me to get back in the ring..
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Unfortunately for you. I don't think we'll need to know how to pronounce it after october sixteenth. But that's the best you can do over a four five months period. You're going to have to do better. we people were expecting the third chocolate tito. Juan francisco stratified october sixteenth. Now chocolate tito has copeland nineteen. So it's going to get pushed back november. That's an excellent fight off. They're gonna if they're gonna remain business. Zone is gonna remain in business with devon haney. Hopefully they'll get him into another fight although he's a free agent so to speak in can while he's overpricing himself in many different fight negotiations If he comes back he's a good fighter dimitrius android in there with the right opponent. I think people will be interested in seeing but But if mikey garcia in a tuneup fight is your only. Us fight in four or five months. That's just not enough. If you're a subscriber. I thought over the summer keep golden. Boy did a pretty nice job of of giving them something right. Sorry let me let me apologize completely. Forgot because the joe dias right against hobby. That was a good car now and fight and they put a good replacement opponent in there for ryan garcia. So i that that actually was a good show unfortunately. And yeah the the virgil ortiz in there with coupla excellent. I thought that was another burglar who has the as maybe not the biggest star in boxing as a potential to be a really really top fighter in boxing. Thought that game a little bit. Now we get into the fall. And i look. I think there's a lot of pressure. On eddie hearn to start making big. Us flights he's got a stable of fighters that need to get out. You mentioned some of them to meet your andrey has got to get out. Before the end of the i hear from people at dimitrius esteem harassing me. If i know what's what kind of going on with his next fight you've got as you said devon haney you've got guys that are world championship level guys gotta get out gotta get out in the right fights. I'm pretty disappointed that we could. We didn't get a monkey. Garcia regis program fight put together. I don't know why that that fell apart. But that would have been guys every boxing fan out there would have wanted to see. Mikey gets regis. You're doing like the dallas area. He gets some regis fans louisiana yet. Mikey's fans from it was done well in texas. That would have been an excellent point but those are the type of fights. Eddie harness gotta stop putting together. While the thing is chris. I turned fifty last week. So maybe i'm starting to lose my memory a little bit memory enhancers but but the virgil ortiz. Fight on a night when there were two other cards on. Espn and showtime was clearly the best fighter the night a great performance from virgil ortiz. Knocked out kavaliauskas after getting buzzed earlier in the fight So there were two two car to golden boy cards with an basically a one month span there five weeks fan. That were pretty good but short of that yet. You're a you're going to have to..
Tha Boxing Voice
"regis program" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"But it got. It got postponed to yoko august. Ceo call allegedly cova. Do you believe that there is this. I really worry about that right now. but I do think. I do pulse so does ever shy It oh definitely has a lot a lot of openings that no you can take a hold of But not oh definitely coming to fight. He's always he's always been prepared for the worst situation. So it's still the undisputed lightweight champion. Not not yet. He's the unified in your. Yeah yeah. he has to fight on deb. Haney for that right. Yeah yeah he does. He does he. Does i love to see that fight. Also so would i get some work with haning. No we might have to set that up. Get you on the vegas man. Listen we want to thank you. Obviously for jumping on. Let me refreshing case. Any people slid in any last ones before we let you go but we do appreciate you coming on. And obviously they did slide in a few more. I got young diga. Who says thoughts on crawford's hundred and forty seven pound resume and his next opponent not being a top hundred and forty seven pound fighter again. The rumor is jose. Ramirez off that loss. To josh taylor joseba or regis program all hundred and forty pounds all people in your division i.