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SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Be pretty crazy. Yeah, I agree. And I quite frankly think Jake Paul would agree as well. All right, let's talk about the fight that you were supposed to be at this weekend, but we'll be covering for boxing scene remotely. A 140 pound fight Matthias versus Ponce, this has war written all over Keith. He got two guys that are just come forward, heavy handed kind of guys. It might not be the most technically most technical fight that's out there, but it feels like this has fight of the year contender kind of written all over it. What do you expecting in this matchup? You know, I spoke to both guys at length person and they said, both of them said the same thing. They expect a war, they expected. I think the words that Ponce used, which were translated to me, was going to be a high voltage affair and the fans are not going to be disappointed. I think they both expect that type of knock down drag out fight. A Subaru Matias is a guy who, you know, just comes forward he's a huge puncher, every fight that he has won as a professional has been won by knockout. He avenged his only loss to Petro Sena by just beating him down in the rematch last January. It was a competitive fight for much of it, but then he started beating him up and he knocked down a non in for the first time to non use career. And became the first opponent to stop him, he's a huge puncher. He comes to fight, you know, not much for defense that doesn't have the greatest jab. You know, but he's a huge puncher on say, you know, he looked great in that Lewis Ritz and fight. That's the biggest fight of his career. He went to Lewis Ritz's hometown, beat him up pretty badly, especially to the body, knocked him down three times in the tenth round and won that fight by TKO, and that's how he became the mandatory challenger for Josh Taylor's IVF title, which Taylor later gave up and then the IBS ordered him to fight Matthias for this vacant title. I think it's going to be a great fight. And it's under the radar because we didn't either guy is exactly a household name even among boxing fans, but people are well aware of Matthias because he's been fighting on PBC cards in recent years and he's Puerto Rican and it's kind of surprising that he hasn't become bigger because Puerto Ricans embrace all of their fighters and this guy can really really crack and he knocks people out. You would think he would be a bigger name than he is now, but maybe winning this title and getting into a bigger fight can do that for his career. But Ponce is going to be a I think Matthias is a four to one to favor it and he'd have to favor him to win the fight based on what he's done. Ponce hasn't fought the highest level of opposition. But again, that Lewis Ritz and fight and I'm not saying richins as good as Matthias certainly not to puncture that Matthias is, but to go to his hometown and do that to him was impressive, and that's been his toughest test to date. This is kind of a neutral territory, neither of them has anything to do with Minneapolis, Minnesota, which is the hometown of Jamal James who's fighting on the in the co feature. But I just think it's going to be an excellent fight. And that'd be great back to back weeks coming off of Nissan fight and of course the Lee wood, the dramatic ending to the laterally wood fight, because he built some momentum here in somewhat lower profile fights, but fights that fans will enjoy. That's a great fight. And to your point, in terms of bigger fights in the future, a lot at stake. I mean, a 140 is poised to become kind of a glamour division in boxing with the names that are in there already right now, whether it's Josh Taylor. Lopez reaches pro gray, of course, the title holder. But also with a 135 pounders, Devin Haney, Ryan García, they figured to be moving up before the end of the year. And if you can get one of those belts, the ibf belt, in this case, that's currency. Keith, that's like, you know, half a $1 million payday $1 million payday guaranteed in probably your next fight, whether it's in a unification fight or you're fighting against one of those top guys like a haney or Orion Garcia. So, you know, financially, if there's a lot at stake, I mean, both these guys want to become title holders, but I would think the money is in the future money is even more important at this point. Yeah, as much as we, you know, criticize there being for it and I guess 5 if you recognize the IBO, there are too many titles, but these titles are very valuable to the fighters because they'll make much more money by defending even if Subaru Matias loses what you say he wins on Saturday night and he goes and defends the title against a higher profile to whoever it might be. He's going to make a lot of money so these titles are very valuable to the guys and it's going to be a fun fight, like I said, Chris and I think you get some bang for your buck on Saturday night. Well, except Regis prograde was kind of like holding his title up going like does anybody want a title shot? Well, I don't know if I'd want to fight Regis program either if there were paths to a title like if you're too female Lopez and I'm not saying he couldn't beat Regis program, but you know there's been some slipping into your fema and his last fight he didn't look particularly good. But I would rather fight Josh Taylor and Lopez is willing to go over to the UK and do it. Even to Glasgow. So I've been told that that that's possible that that fight would be in the U.S. also. But whatever the case, if you're him, that's the higher profile fight and then maybe he would fight Regis program after that and the title unification fight, but pro bray is one of those it's not that there's no reward because he has one of the titles and people obviously know who Regis program is, but that's a tough fight, man. I mean, look what he just did to Jose zapata, who had no one at Zappa had been knocked down, you know, multiple times by Ivan barancik, but he got up and knocked him cold to win the fight. But no one had done that piece of paper. So, you know, program is still somewhat in the prime of his career. I believe he's 33. Man, it's going to be tough to get people to sign up to fight him, particularly when he's not with, you know, if he were with top rank in his fights to run ESPN, you're getting this great exposure, or if he was with PBC and the fights are on showtime, whatever the case might be, he's not even really affiliated with a promoter that has a TV deal in the U.S. and that last fight was an independent pay per view. You know, so unless someone's putting up a decent amount of money for you to go fight him, people are going to steer clear of him. Yeah, and not to make this about program, but I can understand his frustration. Like if he came within what a .2 points of beating Josh Taylor, a few years ago, he wins that fight, you know, he's on the path to undisputed, probably would be undisputed. At this point and a marquee guy with multiple options in terms of promoters and networks instead, he loses that fight in a close way and has been kind of in the boxing wilderness ever since. He gets the world title shot. He wins the world title, and now he's, he's still looking for something. I mean, I'd love to see a Jack Adderall fight get put together. That fight makes some sense. You could do it over in the UK. Has earned an opportunity at a world title shot in the aftermath of the Taylor fight and all the postponements for that. I don't know that it's doable. I know that they've explored it internally, you know, we'll see if the money is there for it, but that's a fight. I'd love to see put together over in the UK. It makes it makes a good amount of sense. Last thing for you Keith, you know, it seems like every week, two weeks, we wonder about the future of Gennady Golovkin. It was a couple of weeks ago. He vacated his IVF title at a 160 pounds. It sure sounds like or seems like that his WBA belt is going to go the same way. There is going to be at some point a purse bid calls for a purse bid for a fight against eris landy Lara, who is the secondary title holder. I don't think gallop did would shy away from that fight. He better pay him for that fight, and I don't think the money is out there for a showdown with our slendy Lara. Like what's your read on galav kin future? I mean, I talked about this with other people, you know, before we vacated IVF title now here we are and we could head into March with golovkin either about to be or being a non title holder. You
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"I wouldn't have fought anyway. I'm telling you right now, this is what it is to be a calculating decision maker as a boxer and the people that control your career. So no, I wouldn't advise them to fight cater all because it's just the wrong style matchup. Go for the bigger name. Tio female Lopez, a former undisputed champion. Had all the belts, he beat the loman, chanco. He's a name. That's who you want on your resume, a former champion that's gonna still be Celtic tickets is popular and teal female, whether he still having his issues, he's still having his personal problems. Those are always gonna be their lingering. So he's gonna be there right for the picking. He's ripe for the picking. So I think Josh sailor is an incredible talent, incredible talent, and he should go after another incredible talent. That's vulnerable mentally and so yeah, that's a fight to make. You know, I somewhat disagree that TF femo is vulnerable. I think too much was made of how difficult the fight against sandor Martin was, like Tana Martin is going to be a difficult opponent for everybody. It wasn't just that it wasn't just that performance. He lost the kids. It's his personal life. Got a lot going on there. But I think he's capable of bouncing back and being an elite guy at one 40. I do. I do alleviate the goods for it. I think a Josh Taylor matchup is a lot better for him than what a Sandra Martin matcher would be. Josh Taylor at least will try to bang with him a little bit in that fight. And that's, you know, I think TFE has the size at one 40 to be able to do that. I mean, I do. Yeah, but cambos is banged with him and was able to hurt and drop. There was a lot going on to him. Well, there was going to be more. There's going to be that's exactly what I mean. There's going to be a lot of more, like he was going through a divorce at that time. He had a bad weight cut at that time, that fight had been postponed like three times. That doesn't excuse anything. He lost fair and square in that fight. But I think he's going to, I think taya fimo, if he's an underdog in that fight, and he probably will be, I think he's a very live underdog in that fight. But to the point of the question, I do agree with you. I think this is the right move. To fight Jack katara again, was for ego, right? And you know it was because he dropped all the other belts. Yeah. Just so he could be in a position to defend a title against Jack Adderall. So with teo female on the table, it's a bigger money fight. It's a more relevant fight and it's a better fight for him to potentially win if they fight in June. I feel for Jack casserole, but you know this was around social media. I think Jack haddal could put it together and fight, Regis prograde. That's a good fight for Jack. I don't think pro grade will face the man. Backs off on cataract and protocol attack. I don't think he will, but programs are begging for a fight. Too smart. He's way too smart to take that fight. You think Jack had a role as Muhammad Ali, what are we talking about? I think he's too much risk. What's the reward and beating cataract? You fight. And it's a marketable fight in the UK. Who's been saying busy? Program's been saying business. He has nobody can fight. He is manager. I haven't had a man. Stay busy, get paid. How? Big names. It doesn't matter. It does matter. You don't get paid to fight just anybody. Anyone in the top 15. You want to pull up the top 15 rankings for, yes, please. The WBC. And I'll tell you right now, please. You have to make her. So you think, all right, we'll do this right now. It shouldn't be cad or I'll tell you that. A short, strong southpaw that's confident and he's just waiting for that phone call to fight a big name and strike again. It's just like he saw Cruz. After he tank Davis, why is nobody calling me? People did. Of course, Stephenson asked to fight him. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Of course, he was one of the crew said no. Like, all right, that pit bull has been passing on some fights in the last that doesn't take away from the fact that he's a good fighter. He did. So, of course, Stevenson was publicly calling him out. Everyone's avoiding Stevenson. They're speaking two different things. We just program is number one. The WBC champion, right? So you go down the list. You got taffy ma Lopez. He didn't want that fight. Sandra Martin, you want taffy, you want to fight Santa Martina gonna be the next guy? No, get in the ring with Santa Martin. No. You got Gary Antoine Russell. Who knows no one knows? No idea there. Jose zapata, we've gone down that road before. Sergey lippin yes. Oh, there you go. How about that? José Ramírez didn't want it, Ryan García's on the list. Arnold Barbosa, that's not bad. Those are the good fight, but I rather take lip knits. It has more experience with the bigger names. You know, he's been in there with what Mikey Garcia. So it doesn't matter if you got knocked out by Mikey Garcia. He fought a four division world champion, so being able to beat a name like that. That makes sense. Steve spark? No. He thinks Steve sparks great because what's his name, Montana, love through him on the ring through him off the ring, but now I don't like that fight. Brett and Lee on that list. We're back at the bottom half the top 15. The point is if you think Jack Jack hadal is a good fighter, not a great fighter. And if there's money on the table to fight Jack Adderall and defend your title, you do it. You do it. Why wouldn't you? Because it's a wrong style matchup. I'd rather WBC would rather fire all ranked. How is that possible? Fight a snooze fest against a nobody. You don't get paid for those fights. Regis program has no promoter. I know he doesn't, and that means more money in his pocket. He said, he's still making a lot of money. Would you like to FaceTime Sam cajkovsky in here? Or he just programs manager and ask him if there's a lot of money out there for Regis right now. It's not. It doesn't take away from what he is, but there's not a lot of money out there for him because guys don't want to fight him. José Ramírez said, nope, I'm going to go fight Richard Comey. Tampa, I'm a Lopez, said, nope, I'm going to go fight Josh Taylor. You got to go down the list to find guys willing to fight, Regis pro gray. Is that much of a beast, man? I mean, that's why you got to fight cataract. If there's money in the UK to fight, if you take it, we're just probably going to be the favorite against caterer, you know, that Regis might be the best guy I want to. Yeah, but then he's going to give up, first of all, he's going to be fighting another southpaw and that's difficult. And then you're fighting a Brit in oh man, I don't know. I just think there's better options. He should stay in the U.S., keep doing what he's doing. He fights whoever they put in front of him, so whoever they put in front of them here in his home country, I think that's what you should do. Look, I'd love to see it. I don't think there's any money for it. Like maybe in a cataract to fight in the U.S., I don't know if you can do that. There you go. So you do it in the U.S. because then at least you would have some judging in your favor. If you go, if you go to the UK or anywhere in the UK, you're going to have the fans against you and you know they're rabid fans. They come out in the tens of thousands. Every punch is going to be a new one at all. So you have the fans against you, then you're going to have to judges against you and the referee against you too much too many cards stacked against you. So yeah, if is willing to come over here, then that's a different story. 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SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"All right, José Ramírez is the former 140 pound champion. An ordinarily, I'd be talking to Jose before a big fight has been involved in a number of big fights over the last couple of years. The world boxing super series where he was a runner up lost a close tough fight to Josh Taylor. He fought Maurice sucker at a terrific fight back in 2019. So he's been involved in a lot of big fights over the last few years, but we're talking right now because there's a fight. It's not happening, specifically José Ramírez against Regis program. I want to unpack some things with Jose because when negotiations fall apart, Jose, yeah, guys get on Twitter and you've got managers battling back and forth and everybody seems to kind of get confused over what actually happened with the breakdown of talks between you and Regis program. So start there from your perspective, what's happened over the last week or so that has led to your decision and your team's decision not to go forward with a fight against Regis program? Yeah, well, first and foremost, the team is aware and my manager is aware that I still haven't made a decision clearly to walk away from this fight, you know? You know, I believe I believe we just progressed. I believe that I'm one of the stronger fathers in the one quarter, you know, used to be up close and my style of boxing is not just come forward. I have an experience in the amateur since the amateurs, second to none, you know, became an Olympian, follow the 200 fights, and be a lot of styles. A lot of different styles. Being an aggressive sort of Mexican style come forward, no defense. You don't become an Olympian for Team USA, having that type of style. And you got to learn how to box in how to hear naga hit, especially when you're on the panel three rounds. You know, usually. Old school style Mexican boxing usually, you know, it works out on the professionals that you have 12 rounds to break down a fight or not through. Usually a lot of fighters that have that style are struggling the first couple rounds and because of the wrong condition and other aspects and other characteristics that they might have as a fighter, they end up winning the fight, you know? I'm not that case, you know? I have to have a great boxing believe I have a great box of style that in great power and my size and I'm physical physically strong, you know? Even the undisputed fight with Josh Taylor, it wasn't my best performance. I think there was an the Jose rumors that I know I could be.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Whoever is around José Ramírez wants this pro graphite. I don't think they ever did. I don't think they want it now. There's no reason for top rank not to go out sign Regis pro grade. Like he is aligned with pro bellum right now, but like that's sort of like a weird arrangement. I think that pro gray is available to be signed to a co promotional type deal to work with. They could pick him up and do multiple fights with Regis program. But they don't want to do it. And because they don't want to do it, I think they want to keep these 140 pounders within their universe. That means take a few more Lopez against the winner of Taylor caterham, assuming Taylor wins and then maybe Regis pro gray fights the winner of that down the line. I don't see any scenario where we get Ramirez against pro gray. One thing I would say if you're pro gray, like, call the bluff of team Ramirez here. Like, if you're Regis pro gray, how much does it really hurt you going up to 40% and say like you said you do the fight at 40%? How much would it will you actually do it? Like, because if you're Regis pro grey, again, I don't know who he's going to fight. He's not going to get anybody on the top ranked side of the ledger. There's nothing really for him in that matchroom golden boy universe right now. You go overseas and maybe take a fight. No, I got an idea. I was looking down the box rec ranking. He's trying to make heads or tails of who's available and who's doable. And there's two guys, three guys actually, that stood out to me as conceivable. I'm not saying they're going to happen. One was, Sergey Libyans was coming back down to a 140 was a champion. He has a victory over Omar figueroa since the loss at welterweight.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"My scorecards are always perfect and everybody always agrees with me, so. Oh, me too. I wouldn't know the feeling. I wouldn't know the feeling on that. I never hear from his own watchers about the scorecards. All right, I want to jump into what's become a messy situation with a 140 pound title, at least the WBC's version of it. Just a couple of months ago, really one month ago now. We had Regis pro great win the WBC's version of the title becoming a two time 140 pound champion terrific performance in that fight against Jose pedraza. Excellent performance. And Jose. And he kind of looks, Jose is a penis, or I just saw pedraza. So looking at his future now, he was hoping to get a fight his next fight against José Ramírez. The WBC rules that the purse split is going to be 60 or 70, 30 originally in favor of Regis program. That was altered to be 65 35. Ramirez not happy with that. Has withdrawn from negotiations for that fight. The WBC has ruled that pro grade can take a voluntary defense, though I don't know who program would fight at this point. Nor do I think he wants a volunteer defense at this point. What do you make of Ramirez's decision to back out of this fight? It's disappointing. It's almost like they went into this conversation thinking 65 35, huh? Like they had no idea what was going on, which is just not true because the general consensus in the WBC mandatory fights is a 60. It is typically a 70 30 split. There are many occasions where they will amend the purse split and make it 65, 35. Occasionally they might boost it to 60 40 depending, but that's not the most common thing. And so people should, first of all, a couple of things about that, Chris. Number one, the purse split is just in the event that it goes to a person. There's nothing that says it has to be a certain percentage if the two sides during the course of their allowable time frame to do a private negotiation come up with whatever formula they come up with. So that was only in the event if the teams couldn't make the deal. So they had every opportunity to make a deal. As you mentioned, program I'm sure would be have been happy to negotiate with them and I feel like top rank, which is the promoter for José Ramírez would have been willing to negotiate a deal as well. So I kind of find that to be a cop out. They didn't go to a person. That doesn't feel like there was ever a true negotiation. Number one, number two, back before Regis progra got the opportunity to fight as a paid for the vacant title. The fight that had been ordered when Josh Taylor vacated was to fill that vacancy between José Ramírez and Jose zapata, which was which would have been a rematch of an extremely difficult fight that José Ramírez had when he was
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"He knows his strategies. It's just, you know, when you lose, you got to blame someone. And that's how it is. That's how it is in boxing. Sometimes fighters and trainers, especially new pairings, don't work. I mean, the manual Stewart is one of the great trainers of all time. He was oil and water with Miguel cotto when they trained together. Freddie roach has worked with some great fighters. But him and Vladimir Klitschko wasn't the same as him and Manny Pacquiao. There you go. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. I do wonder if buddy and dillian are the right match. But to spin this forward, we're gonna get dilly and white versus Anthony Joshua. But I don't walk away from white Franklin thinking white Josh was gonna be competitive. I mean, even if it's a diminished version of Joshua, I think he's just gonna walk right through Dylan white. I don't know if you I think you're wrong, no. Really? No, I think but because Dylan white always. He's always in a good fight, even in his losses where he came up short. Maybe you accept for the Tyson Fury one, but again, Joshua, against wasn't really competitive fight against Joshua. But he was slinging the punches. He was yelling in them. It was an entertaining fight. There was interesting moments in that fight. And what was his other loss? It was Tyson Fury. Joshua, but that he came back and starched in. So and he was winning that fight against vivekananda. Exactly. So he's only lost on the championship level. So I think it'd be fights Joshua, you're wrong. And I think he brings that motivation and everything he learned from those championship losses and experience against a vulnerable, mentally, mentally vulnerable fighter in Joshua coming off a loss. We don't know what he's going to have. Yeah, man, I like that fight. I think if this was 5 years ago, I probably agree with you. But I think at 35 years old and having been knocked out in two of his last four fights, I think there's not a lot left, at least at the high level from Dylan white. A better fight this past weekend was Regis pro gray against Jose zapata. Progra for some reason has been just ignored by the major promoters. Like, can't get a deal with matchroom. Can't get a deal with top rank. Can't get a deal with golden boy. Before there's a pay to fight Sergio, he had fought one time in the last three years. Three times in the last three years. And I've always wondered why. This is an entertaining American power puncher. Like, why was this guy not welcomed into the club of top guys at one 35 one 40 and one 47. Then he goes out against the PETA and shows me why I'm right in a way because it was entertaining. He dominated and he had a spectacular finish at the end. I think right now. And one 40s is one of the best divisions in boxing. I think right now you can make the argument that the best guy at one 40 is Regis pro gray. He was nip and tuck with Josh Taylor, lost the close fight over in the UK against Josh Taylor. And then he goes out and just stops zape, a guy that's won some pretty high level fights over the last few years. Is Regis pro gray now, the man at one 40. No, he's number two. The man is Josh Taylor, the man is the man who I can be. The man that beat pro girls, I mean, it was a very close split decision. But look at Josh Taylor, another guy that's inactive and kind of going under the radar as far as coming off a bad win over cataract. We'll see but look at who he's fought his last 6 opponents have been undefeated opponents. What is a Jack cataract defeated Ramirez undefeated? Undefeated, Regis program defeated baron chick undefeated. That Martin character undefeated, Victor postal. Come on. That's a great, great resume. It does. You give me another undisputed champion or another champion that has that kind of a record back to back to back undefeated fighters. You're not getting it. So pro gray is the man at one 40. He's now a two time champion, and I agree with you how he's flown under the radar so long. I don't get it. I think Luther Bella promoted him to Bill Adam. So he did have a major promoter under a little bit one time. Lose a very big promoter, but he doesn't have the power anymore that some of the network TV deals. That's what it comes down to. Okay, the network right. So you know, there's so many networks I just think pro gray is he's a man that I really like I really like program, not only is fighting style but outside the ring the way he carries himself the way he's an excellent champion, I just think he's one he's a southpaw, a lot of promoters kind of like pushing other they try to avoid southpaws. It's hard to match them. And he just a damn good fighter, man. A damn good fighter that enter on a probably market of a move them well, but after this performance was a paid up, you can bet that people are going to allow everyone damn right damn right line up for the opportunity to fight him. And it's my understanding that José Ramírez and his team do not want to face pro gray in their next fight. I think there's going to be something a little softer for José Ramírez, but offer a while at this point. But if he passes, then you could be looking at pro Greg it's KFC mo Lopez in the first half next year. Daffy mo Lopez is next in line as mandatory challenge. I talked to a female this week and he said, if that fight is offered to him, if he beats sando Martine in a week, he will take that fight. And I hope he's right. I hope he top rank and everybody wants because that's another great thing. And it's a fight that can be made because progra wood is a free objectively afraid. It works. Okay. He's a free agent, so show them the money, ESPN, and top rank have the money. And him will be explosive. That would be a great fight. I mean, yes, sign me up for that one. And be a full bull title fight now that pro agrees a champion, so teal female is going to have all the incentive to actually have a chance with a hard punching very good southpaw that's now a champion. So I love that point. Bring it on. It's such a great division right now because you've got the guys that are there, pro gray, Taylor, Ramirez, Lopez. Then you've got the guys that are going to be there in the next 6 months to a year. Ryan García, Devin Haney, maybe some others at one 35. It's a fantastic division that I hope these fights all get made. I think they can be made because the politics are a little cleaner with some of this stuff. Yeah, but the question was, is he number one? And I say, no, he's not. Ruru is number two. Which is fair. I think it's fair. He lost the fight. And I don't think there's any real disputing we lost the fight. It was very close, but he lost that fight. All right, let's talk about some of the fights we have coming up this weekend. Tyson Fury is over in the UK taking on Derek dessert. He's gotten a lot of heat for this fight, Sergio. Like, he's gotten some criticism for taking on chisora. I don't really blame him for it because he did want to and tried to make the fight against Alexander usuk but usuk said, you know what? I'm gonna wait till early next year. Let's some injuries heal. There were discussions for a fight with Anthony Joshua, but come on. Making Joshua against fury in like 6 weeks didn't make any sense. You need Joshua to get a win and then next summer, if fury's undisputed at heavyweight and Joshua was on like a two fight winning streak, that still once again the biggest fight you can make in all of boxing. So I don't know about you, but I didn't have a real problem with chisora as furious. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. We did it in the episode of jabs when you asked me who should Tyson Fury stay busy with. I set your sore and he said, what, for what? I'm going to bring it up again. You can find it. But on an episode of jab in such a sora makes no sense, is that absolutely it makes sense. He always comes to fight. I mean, that's what you saw. People love him in England. He can pack out a crowd. It's a stay busy fight better than being inactive waiting for us. And I think some unknown Germans. And I did not shit, chat, past tense, shat on that matchup, and you said no, chasseur was old, he's already. He's already beaten him twice. No one wants to watch it. Now you're recanting. That's a word recanting what you said on jab. I'm gonna have bob a producer bring that up because on jabs, you shet on that fight. I said, no, man, stay busy, stay working. People love to soar and make sense until wilder Joshua or usyk become available and the gypsy king gets at that another a side a side versus a site. Fits the bill. You can have bob find the clip on your computer, which doesn't work. You're like hansel from zoolander with that computer.
The Corner
"regis program" Discussed on The Corner
"You got to fight somebody. You have to go fight Regis program. It's amazing fight. But you have to fight somebody. Regis said, I'm not sure if anyone wants to fight me. I'm not necessarily sure if he don't read it's going to have a date I want 40 if like haney doesn't move up to anything. Oh yeah. Like you have Josh Taylor. There's a lot of people you can fight. There's only so much you can go circle in the dream before you fall in it. Like you have to fight somebody. So I looked at Ryan García's performance and I truly believe Ryan really wants to fight tank. I don't know if tank really wants to fight Ryan, not because he doesn't want to fight him. But I think tank is now caught up in the business aspect of it. Where it's like, if he listens to the floor, he was like, let this thing marinate for a couple years. I don't really want to do that. The problem here is Floyd not only lets it marinate, but he protects the O. Does it mean something to Floyd? And that's flawed logic. It is. 'cause, okay, De La Hoya didn't make as much as you Floyd. He made it before you though. And many didn't make as much of you, but you made a shit ton. None of them cared about that old. The fight still made money. Yeah. Floyd believes the O is what carried some of that weight to making all of this money. So he's like, yo, you could be their level, but if you lose, would never be my level. So we got to protect though. It's the Jordan effect in basketball. He's perfect in the finals. It fucked up basketball. Because now if you lose once in a finals and you win 8 times, you could win 7 rings. Steph has 7 wings. If he lost two finals, he's never the goat. No. Like Jordan set the bar, it's a wrap. For a whole generation he just didn't protect his own. No, he didn't. But still, it's just one of those things though. Like you inadvertently set the bar just to mark for a whole generation that's unattainable. And Floyd's done the same. Floyd, I don't consider him the greatest ever. I don't think I put him in my top 5. Most people don't. Yeah. Some people do and put them in their top 5. Casuals do. Yeah. Why should people have them top fire? I think he may have earned a spot in the top ten. Yeah, no, he is. So cool. Top ten. But if people had a vote, all of them have lost. Yeah. Most of them lost came back, ran it back and got that. But what do we do? They fought everybody. They like sugar ray. So go to your office to fight everybody. Ali, fought everybody. Roberto Duran fought everybody. Took a great Leonard, followed everybody. Joe Louis was talking about getting washed. Duran got washed and no moss. Yeah. Came back in one titles and two more divisions. Well, yeah. I mean, Robert Graham was the scariest we ever seen. But the thing is, is like, people talk about age and it's a very weird thing because they're like, yeah, these fighters are young, but like Mike Tyson's world champion at 21. He's like freaking nature. But if you really look at this, a lot of these guys don't like Canelo was young. Yeah, right? Canelo was young. If you go back, Terrence Griffith wasn't that old. He's getting older now, but Corrales was on a blistering pace. Yes. Before he left. He ran into Floyd. Yeah. But these guys were young, and there were things like Tuesday night fights on USA. We have to go watch them on. Like tank is like strictly this pay per view guy, but he had pay per view too early. I might have been one fucking because these fights would have been fine if you could have chained them together, fight three times in a year, four times in a year. Cool. These opponents would have been cool, but you're in pay per view. So now you can only fight twice a year. Yeah. So now, he would have gotten through all these people three years ago. But now it's like, now you're 28. You should have done all of this on your 25 challenging for the real title at 26. Could have went against Loma. Could have went against Luke. You could have beat Loma to the punch of some of these belts. And it was too much. One 30 was one 30 where he was at was open for title taking. But you couldn't fight enough to force these fights because you were a paper. It's like bro, you fought Rolly Romero. It's really hard for me to sit here and say, I wish I wish arrow would just be like, oh, let's do it. Real quick. It's September. I'll come back and I'll do it. Yeah, yeah, I'll beat you up real quick, 'cause tank for a Rollie Romero, right? And it's like good business because he did already in pay per view and everything else, but it's almost like a waste of a camp. When fully fought Conor McGregor, he didn't even train for that fight. He just went out there and beat
The Corner
"regis program" Discussed on The Corner
"Like the Floyd effect, right? It's like, you can only avoid him for so long. Oh no. He's here for everybody. What's the smoke? And if you're Ryan García, Ryan, was like, yeah, we fought 6 times on a BM three, but he's like, you lost the last three, right? It's fair. And it's like, they haven't gotten your face, you got into your face. If you find this tank, he's gonna get in his face too. Yeah. And it's like, y'all gotta say the man's name. You could be very honest and say, if I doesn't make me as much money, but his time will come. Yeah. Say something 'cause now it's starting to look like, yo, he's the champ. They can avoid him for now because the star power is not as high as them, right? So the people clamoring for him and him even clamoring and getting people's face. If they don't post it, it doesn't matter because his audience is middle school compared to theirs. You know the worst part about this is? Let's just say, hypothetically, Tang versus Ryan happens next spring. Yeah, should. The losers done. No, no, no. If the loser gets if the loser gets crushed in terms of, like, maybe they get Adrian bronner's. Right? Because they never thought anybody. And now when you lose, if tank were to get crushed by Ryan García, it's a rap. It's a rat. He could beat so many other people. Hoodie? We don't know. It's not like we know he's not mediocre. He's not average. But what I'm saying is we don't know how great these guys are. But we know they're pretty damn good. If he got smoked by Ryan García, tank is what? 28? Yeah. You can't go out there and just keep giving them soft touches. No, but Devin could drop the belt and then what a one 35. Can he beat a Richard Comey? Yes. Can you beat like he can end up a double champion at one 35? I'm just saying. It becomes complicated because he hasn't fought anybody and then people, it's like it's in pro wrestling. It's the Goldberg effect, right? When Goldberg finally lost, it was like, all right, so now you start picking apart everything he does right now. Your career is predicated on knockouts that also right. So it's like, and if Ryan loses, he was like, he was a guy, but he'll have the social media phone, don't get me wrong. But let's say the same thing about him. Well, he didn't find anybody. And he got smoked. Like the loser that fight is in trouble because the reason why is that fight's not going to a decision. No. Somebody's getting hurt. You can lose. It's what you do after that. You can't lose repeatedly. Like, Adrian broner got washed by my Donna at least. He's never the same. He's all having a press conference. This press conference me and I'm out. He's never the same after that. But you can lose, bounce back and run like 6 fights in a row again and be just fine. But best believe his next four, he gonna be on it again. And he could lose. Here's the difference, right? Ryan García and tank Davis haven't fought anybody. They fight each other and one of them gets nuked. This isn't necessarily about what we think. It's about what they start thinking about themselves. That's key. But you got to understand, like, that is boxing. Everyone isn't it? I think that's, yeah, it's boxing without Floyd. Boxing without Floyd was, yo, we're gonna fight. I could get nuked and then guess what? Nobody else gonna run this. So what's up? And then we're gonna meet again in three years and we're gonna run it back because you know what, you might got me at one 35, but let's see what it's about at one 40. Let's see what it's about at one 47. That was a boxing before Floyd. People lost and you know all the time. We run it back. Yeah, but again, they fought each other, right? And they're so young that we can't just be like, oh, if they were 31, 32, if they were spent in Crawford, different, 'cause having fought Thurman, right? Who's the other big bad at your era? Right. Neither of you guys fall. Y'all didn't fight each other. Technically, y'all fall Sean. But like, y'all ain't fight the other big badging era, arrow front, Danny. I mean, aerofoil, Danny. Sean. No, but who just wasn't thought of a big bad in there. Daddy. I'll give you daddy. And he was like, of their crew, like, yo, these are the best. Of your era. One of them have fought. So it's just like, now we go into the Spence Crawford one, and he'd be like, yo, someone get knocked out here. It's over. Because your resume is not good enough. If you fight young enough, and you'd be like, all right, we're gonna run this back later at one 40 or one 47. You're fine. Marques hasn't packed out for the three different weight classes. Yeah, but they also fought everybody. They did. But if you start young enough, you have that opportunity. My point is these two aren't getting any younger. And Ryan's got a layer. That's 24. Ryan's got a leg up. Tank does it. No, but this is when you have to start and you say, yo, it falls how it falls. Like he has, in some ways, he has to fight somebody next year. He has to. Oh, yeah. Fires to the feet. We're getting to the point where Shakur, Devin, Ryan, boots, Virgil, bam Rodriguez, their accolades have passed yours. Yeah, you're a star, but you got to fight somebody. You have to go fight Regis program. It's amazing fight. But you have to fight somebody. Regis said, I'm not sure if anyone wants to fight me.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"With Chris Manning. How's somebody punch him in the face? Anthony Joshua is a composed and ferocious finisher. Watch this. Hosted by SI's Chris mannix. That was my moment. Now with interviews, analysis and everything going on in the world of boxing. When you have talent, you are given another chance. Here's Chris mannix. All right, it's a big fight weekend over in the UK. The heavyweight championship on the line Tyson Fury going up against dillion white. A lot of other things happening in boxing. For that, we're gonna go over to the UK to one of my favorite boxing insiders out there. Mike Carpenter, the boxing insider over at ESPN is going to be covering the fury white fight for ESPN, which can be seen here in the U.S. on ESPN+ pay per view. Mike, how was your early experience over in the UK? Great. Fans here are amazing. This is my third fight in London. I also covered the Anthony Joshua Alexander probe in fight in 2018. I Wembley, which I know you were on the broadcast for for the zone. And then again, the new year later, when Josh Taylor Ford Regis program at the O2. But this one feels a bit different so far already. You know, we've all heard that he heard bastardizing furious a is not a star here. I mean, I think the proof is in the pudding. Fury with his, you know, I think it's four fights in the U.S. has really transformed himself into a mega star over here. With those two big wins over Deontay Wilder courses charismatic personality and they're going to have about 94,000 plus on Saturday and I mean just the presser yesterday was a madhouse. Boxing is just so much different over here as you know. It's treated as a major sport and not very, very much so in the U.S. except on rare occasion. What do you attribute that to the ticket sales? Like you said, the 94,000 plus that are going to be at Wembley because I don't think I'm sure you agree that I don't think before Tyson Fury made his way to the U.S. to have the fights against wilder. I don't think he does this number in the UK three or four years ago. I agree with you. I think it's a combination of factors. I think you have to be Anthony Joshua a lot of credit. Anthony Joshua being on the UK boxing scene. I think lifts fury as well..
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"When you're spending that kind of money on original programming, you just don't have the money to go after the acquisitions to have a portfolio of rights that HBO used to have. I mean, thank God HBO was able to get the rights that it did early in its history when the competition was in his fierce and the price tags weren't so high. But you can kind of start to see in 2000 the fact is a lot of this money is going to be shifting over to original programming. It's not going to be a priority for us. And as a result, I think you used the right word. I've said it myself and I think it's the subtext in what I write about it. It was sad to see it go, because HBO sports was a big deal. It was a unique creature. It wasn't as vast as ESPN. It wasn't as vast as ABC wilder sports. You know, they had a page from their playbook stolen from them about sports documentaries by 30 for 30. But you still kind of like wanted it around. You know, you still wanted to see what they would come up with. And so they have a much more limited agenda right now. They don't have the lampley's of the world. They don't have the Tyson's other world. They don't have, you know, a lot of things that they used to have. So. Sometimes progress sucks because you know it's just like you want those old days of innocence where you know they were like literally when HBO covered Wimbledon, Chris, they put the tapes on the freaking Concord to get it back in time. So they could show it before anybody else. We had coverage of weekdays at Wimbledon. I mean, I don't know, not to sound like somebody who's nostalgic, but I miss those days. I kind of do as well. And if HBO boxing has a legacy, it's that everything they did was taken and adopted by somebody else, you know, whether it is the 24/7 vehicle, all the stuff they did in the corners. You mentioned the documentaries inside the NFL. Inside the NFL was, I mean, look, no offense against Sunday countdown and all these other shows that are ubiquitous now, but they had that before anybody else. And that was, you know, that was a big deal as one of their longest running shows. In fact, Dave harman worked on it. His father worked on it. It was appointment television for a lot of football fans. And when that went away, that was also a heartbreaker. Well, Dave harman and avid listener this podcast will be happy to know that you approved of his work there. Well, he deserves it all, man. He does. The book is tinderbox, HBO's ruthless pursuit of new frontiers. We only covered a fraction of what's in there. Jim, tremendous stuff, always great to catch up with you and thanks for joining me. Thank you, man. Thank you. Thanks a lot. When we come back, my conversation with Regis program. Support for this podcast in the following message come.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"This is boxing with Chris Manning are somebody punch him in the face. Anthony Joshua is a composed and ferocious finisher. Watch this. Ruiz is the heavyweight champion. Hosted by SI's Chris mannix. That was my moment. Now with interviews and analysis and everything going on in the world of boxing. When you have talent, you are given another chance here's Christmas. All right, welcome back to another episode of boxing with Chris mannix part of the volume sports podcast network. We have an amazing show for you this week. The demise of HBO has been a popular topic amongst boxing fans for some time now. James Andrew Miller, who is one of the great oral historians of our time has written terrific books on ESPN, Saturday Night Live. He did a deep dive book on HBO including the rise and fall of boxing at HBO. James joins me on the podcast to discuss that very topic. How HBO got into the business and how ultimately HBO quietly got out of the business. A little bit later on, Regis program, the former 140 pound champion, he has been relatively quiet in 2021. That is not a lot of fighters have been willing to step up and to fight him. I talked to Regis about that about his new deal with the fledgling promotional outfit and what he hopes to accomplish in 2022. As always, best way to support this podcast, get over to Apple podcasts, post a comment, leave a rating, it's simple, it's easy, it's free. It's the best way to make sure that we keep doing this podcast week after week. That's it. All right, onto the show. All right, there's no greater writer of oral histories, among other things, than James Andrew Miller. He's the author of books like powerhouse, live from New York, these guys have all the fun. His latest project is tinderbox, HBO's ruthless pursuit of new frontiers, which you can pick up everywhere that you buy books and Jim Carrey, because you want me here. On the show, Jim, let's just start before we get into the boxing part of this, which is obviously what I want to dive into. The name was interesting to me right off the bat. Why tinderbox, because I think that, you know, look for the past 49 years at different incarnations and different key inflection points in its history. HBO has been flammable. It's been one of these things that not only ignites change within the network itself..
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Also the budget for that fight you know is much larger budget than it is for a fight like saturday night so in order to put together that kind of budget you need more promoting behind it to generate that kind of money and it's not enough time. This fight was done within like a five week. Notice night enough time. Five is night enough time to promote to fully promote a big fight. Like a pro and myself would be so we couldn't couldn't get that deal done But that is the the fight that was most interesting to me and there was actually talked There was brought to my attention since like mayor. june As a possible. You know next opponent. But because of the pack as attrition our still kind of waiting on that You know no regrets. We moved on now from the pack out. Now we're pushing to get something else. produce was not available because of the business behind it. So we landed on on martin. Is it your understanding that if things go well for you on saturday. That fight against redes- can be revisited in the first quarter of next year. I i believe so. That's actually what you know me and my team have talked about. You know getting this done if everything goes well. And i'm not her not injured Then push right away to to try to secure a fight with regis program you know. Get back into those conversations And try to get that fight next. You are someone that consistently chases big fights like. You don't want soft touches. You don't want tuneup. Fights was just important for you to get back into the ring. Get something going before the end of the year. And before eventually moving onto a fight against regis. Yeah look i. I honestly i like this. That's not title fight. That's not really somebody that's going gonna help me. You know Positioned myself for anything much bigger or anything. Like that doesn't motivate me. It doesn't do it for me doesn't excite me And it's just it's just a fight for me to get back in the ring..
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"regis program" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Unfortunately for you. I don't think we'll need to know how to pronounce it after october sixteenth. But that's the best you can do over a four five months period. You're going to have to do better. we people were expecting the third chocolate tito. Juan francisco stratified october sixteenth. Now chocolate tito has copeland nineteen. So it's going to get pushed back november. That's an excellent fight off. They're gonna if they're gonna remain business. Zone is gonna remain in business with devon haney. Hopefully they'll get him into another fight although he's a free agent so to speak in can while he's overpricing himself in many different fight negotiations If he comes back he's a good fighter dimitrius android in there with the right opponent. I think people will be interested in seeing but But if mikey garcia in a tuneup fight is your only. Us fight in four or five months. That's just not enough. If you're a subscriber. I thought over the summer keep golden. Boy did a pretty nice job of of giving them something right. Sorry let me let me apologize completely. Forgot because the joe dias right against hobby. That was a good car now and fight and they put a good replacement opponent in there for ryan garcia. So i that that actually was a good show unfortunately. And yeah the the virgil ortiz in there with coupla excellent. I thought that was another burglar who has the as maybe not the biggest star in boxing as a potential to be a really really top fighter in boxing. Thought that game a little bit. Now we get into the fall. And i look. I think there's a lot of pressure. On eddie hearn to start making big. Us flights he's got a stable of fighters that need to get out. You mentioned some of them to meet your andrey has got to get out. Before the end of the i hear from people at dimitrius esteem harassing me. If i know what's what kind of going on with his next fight you've got as you said devon haney you've got guys that are world championship level guys gotta get out gotta get out in the right fights. I'm pretty disappointed that we could. We didn't get a monkey. Garcia regis program fight put together. I don't know why that that fell apart. But that would have been guys every boxing fan out there would have wanted to see. Mikey gets regis. You're doing like the dallas area. He gets some regis fans louisiana yet. Mikey's fans from it was done well in texas. That would have been an excellent point but those are the type of fights. Eddie harness gotta stop putting together. While the thing is chris. I turned fifty last week. So maybe i'm starting to lose my memory a little bit memory enhancers but but the virgil ortiz. Fight on a night when there were two other cards on. Espn and showtime was clearly the best fighter the night a great performance from virgil ortiz. Knocked out kavaliauskas after getting buzzed earlier in the fight So there were two two car to golden boy cards with an basically a one month span there five weeks fan. That were pretty good but short of that yet. You're a you're going to have to..
THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"regis program" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"It's not you still know where the good fights are. You still know who. The real fight is who the top fighters all matter of fact of these damn promoters gave you the fights whether it's spencer crawford or and other ones that i could talk about. You know tank. Davis i mean i could go on and on and on so many great fights out there. That could be made that. You're never going to see if these big greedy promoters gave you the fights that fans really want to say well. Then maybe fans wouldn't be completed so much about that. This is stuff that now. They're one off to watch. Maybe they wouldn't wonder off to watch it. If if the promoters came to fight said that that oh there to be that that defense really stalled for and not when not when it's five years too late or ten years too late like was pack coward mayweather and so becomes more money. Grab than than a challenge of who the best is you know. So what i'm saying. Is this an alternate entertainment route that you can take to watch this but it's interesting if you find it interesting to watch it if you don't you don't have to. You don't have to watch to their credit or you know that everyone on that card had their biggest payday ever. That's sometime when we make more likely than he ever made by the collateral. Is that while while this is being done. You're right. that's what i was going to get at while this is being done. You have these fighters that that just woodley but you have to you other fighters mattis around the wanna biggest stage that they've been on before it totally and a big payday so they got an opportunity to shoulder. Where's to a big audience than they had before the conventional boxing setting. So is that a bad thing. Now it's not a bad thing. It's a good thing so they gotta change to make more money every fight on. I'd cosby more money than they had before and again performed in a bigger audience than they would have performed is just conventional boxing. So there's a lot of things attached to it that nobody thought that this would be positive things you know when this thing started i i understand you know where people were soul soul against in seoul hesitant about supporting it at the beginning that it fell fraudulent it fell. Didn't it didn't feel real. But now as you get into it a little more and you see that the other residual effects of it. It's it's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing at all on the last trillo card regis program made three times what he made in his previous fight on that. Jake paul undercard so that his. And here's a real fighter that his his his shelf life is only sold right and and he gets a chance. He's earned it. He's taking the risk and he gets a chance to make that kind of money. It was big money. So that's so. That's the thing that people are looking at when they just look at. Oh here's a youtube. And oh my god. He's invading the world of boxing though is not he. He's putting his flag up a special area an area that that is again. It is an alternative to the actual conventional sport of boxing of entertainment and is bringing eyeballs to the sport overall. It's kind of like the rocky movie. I remember when the movie came out. People said teddy you know. Is that hurting boxing to have a movie like that. How's it hurting. Boxing bringing more attention to the sport. This sport does the worst job in a world of promoting itself. That's why they pass it up like it's like it's all backwards z as the fourth biggest sport in the country past hockey. That's why they pass boxing because they promoted because they knew white promotes it and they put competitive fights on okay okay so so when when people saw rocky movie that's that's folly that's fake. That's nobody could get hit that many put. Hey abroad ted. Could it hurt the sport. How could it hurt the sport when it gets. You're talking about the sport where it brings more i bought. And that's what's happening with this as got more people looking at this and also whether looking at this. They're looking at what boxing. What pfizer out. There in boxing that they can look at and quite frankly in in a negative way. They're looking at the fights that aren't being given to them at boxing. They're saying well. How come we're not getting the fights that we want that we demand and they're getting a little restless with that but it's a positive thing in a way that again it just brings more tension over to the sport of boxing one to the one. I think the one big loser in that fight and not not to be used loser in a derogatory term but financially. I thought it was. Tommy furey either tom. Fury was putting himself in a position to be the next opponent. Get a massive payday. I just can't see him the way he looked a four four rounds he could barely keep his hands up. You know how you're going to sell. You have a kid who empl who's committed to try to learn sport but he's just starting right three years whatever he's just starting at least when he's fighting these ufc geis's legitimacy he's fight. How legitimate guy that that has stature. How but fury's another beginning. Very eddie looked looktolegacy beginning. He's struggled to get through four rounds and he looked like a beginning. So how you going to sell a beginner. Who's who's definitely has. His stock is is growing paul stock. There's no doubt about that. But he's still a beginning. How you going to sell a beginner with another beginning. Who's not even as developed as i get so that's gonna be kinda hard to sell that now and you make a good point. He probably heard. I would've finished with two things by analogy at the end for. Why would li y coveted pretty damn good. Why lost.
Tha Boxing Voice
"regis program" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"Terms of boxing. Why he's promoters nets and networks scared like right now. Can you make a decent fight from here to september that date. I don't think so right now days already too late. It's too late but yeah. Can i finish your call. Where do you go ahead. Go in the date man. Israel is what i'm saying but go ahead finish your thought. Yes so so. What i was saying is that you know like i. I just don't like the fact that khanal like is there september. Why mexicans don't have a backup or they have a big fight like a backup plan. It just sucks at another holiday. There's no big fight. you know. It sucks so you would want a backup guess Who would be providing the backup. Who would that fight or be in does have to be mascot. I dunno it like admitted not not really brought me. Honesty's a boxer fan. Like i just a big fight to me as the boxes and they need to learn something like i think they should make a big card every quarter of the year. So then fans can enjoy you know. It's almost like a subaru for us. The temper it. that'd be awesome. The as a of trying to be like i would. I would add in this little thing every quarter. All the promoters must work together on one quarterly super card and they are eat and they all but thinking main. it's hard. It's hard because we split in the money too hard because everybody wants to big a piece of the argument now. My man did this over the whole two years your mandate that you know what i'm saying. It's too much to be honest. Like cinco de mayo on knew that always but the day floyd mayweather introduce matt to me. So i'm not gonna see hamby like yo. I need to see a fight. September fifteenth or whatever the day is but do i like the fight and the height behind that day here. Do you know. Flight pre k. Are ness real quick right based flipping off his core so people being afraid to release right so kanye west of i've been following that whole donde release right and then is released so donde was pushed back that should israel man people choose what they want to watch or listen to her right here. So that day being like the floyd date or the freaking cannella date you got to step back because your business. If you do that now i just did. An interview regis shut out. The regis programme invited us to his jam and the interview. He said like him and mike day. 'cause they waiting on cannella everybody waits on cannella because then you get to know what you can or can't do you know what i'm saying. You all eyes on me. You don't want or is on cannella and then spill into me and that's drake and cayenne. Yeah you know what i'm saying. Who listen to drake kanye. Ao nas anymore. With that constant it was crazy. He was just that he's a shadow is performing on. Yeah no no. I mean i can dig the part. No but it's the album dropping and then knows about the drop on the same day and connie pushed the date. Because he don't wanna fake knives and then drake like yo. What's up man droppie album. 'cause i want to drop my album saying and nobody wants to step on nobodies cognac. I was your date. He liked what you know saying. So it's a real thing. Man people choose and they don't want to they want impact and you know the most impactful way to do. It is to not drop on definitely a date jay's beneath change the building definitely. No you will hear yo. I've been in the rain with perry ballard. I've been the rain with jack. Jack planner a member of the rain with a new the world away leon king though i mean the rink with some people but i'm not gonna stop toes. Talk shit about much date. David is whether he is August fourteenth. you got the big event going on promotion for that right there on the lane. Next week i played the screen. Show cashew curry. Okay bothering that man. Are date really matters mad. You know that's why ti to push this date back somebody 'cause when the stuff i mean. 'cause you know flow was really stepping stones and now i never wanna fight probably.
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"regis program" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"That's going to happen on august fourteenth andrew. Maloney joshua franko trilogy i notice in tulsa Was it not was vegas. Just completely avoided Because of what happened in the second fight and also was at a difficult fight to make the third time While the to answer the first part of it We had finished our our Hotel deal here at virgin hotels. And we didn't have a las vegas site for so the result of the second fight had nothing to do with where it ended up. We were already scheduled to go to Tulsa in august. We're going to Tucson arizona in september. But we've got our schedule pretty well mapped out. You know wherever the dates are in the locations are that's where the fight would end up as far as Was it easy to make the match. They they both wanted. It was very easy. They both Felt that they're the better fighter and it's the third time we'll be charm for one of them who who would be like v. Ideal opponent. For josh taylor right now for for a homecoming fight. You know. there's the one that good fights which is a good action fighter He's actually talked about moving up and fighting bud put The the reality is he's got a mandatory for his next fight with jet counter. All and that's why it has take place Either in the uk or in germany wherever they in the foot Taylor's one of those guys if you remember when he won a broken To the national or international line limelight before regis program a real tough guy and he beat them and I'll just say towers the kind of guy you can make a lotta great fights with it you know. They're sixty guys on the screen right now but each of you could come up with a real good opponent for josh all. Yeah can i ask. A question is yeah. I want to ask you about a young prospect The puerto rican Edgar berlanga I'm real excited about that kid. He's twenty four seventeen. No we just had his his first go past the first round but he's very exciting so I'm i'm just wondering. When are we going to get him to go from that prospect level two more into the contender status Well that'd be real soon. 'cause i mean he's getting you know he's twenty four now getting to that point you know whole how old are you. I'm thirty seven is time right. No the domon nicholson fight was what we considered developmental fight. We tried to get edgar some rounds under his belt for quite a while and there were a couple of times we taught he would at least hear the bell for the second round. We used to tease at your. And say you don't even know what it's like to come back to your corner and sit on the store and get rents mouthpiece comes out on The the nicholson fight. was very important to him. He now knows he can go. Eight hundred rounds He almost stopped demanding. The last round but He ran out of time but it was very important in terms of conditioning in terms of the confidence factor But why we're not rushing edgar. He needs time to develop an and one eight round fight under his belt. Really is not A past to to fight and title contenders had i'd say probably a year away from fighting contenders but he's one of the most exciting kids They ever wanna watch. These is terrific. So i gotta i gotta it's not a question is more like I just wanna ask What was it like doing that. Time when bob and don king was going at it promoting china promote fights. What was that like. It seemed like the be the golden age of boxing In terms of their personal relationship or terms of boxing itself both bucket You know they're both the same age They're both there four months apart in terms. They warn the same year and Don's already ninety. Bob's gonna turn ninety in december They they they were on a parallel paths They were contemporaries. But don was mainly Interested in promoting heavyweights and and chavez. Senior and bob was usually in the smaller weights. And you know. I mean arum did do twenty seven mohammad-ali fights He was doing alley fights before king. Ever you know came around. But bob was doing the great light heavyweights of the seven days. All those guys who fought philadelphia he was doing The four kings leonard. Duran hagler hearns. He was doing alexis cirque wail and Wilfred benitez and carlos palomino danny so they never really clash and and the funny thing is a lot of people. Don't realize that the first leonard durant fight in montreal was actually promoted by company called be a decay. Which was bob arum don king. They co promoted that show and they co promoted trinidad versus delahoya and a couple other fights. So it's it's funny when you see them together I remember we went to a funeral in los angeles For for one of the For dan ghosts and they were both sitting on difference. Sides of the church Across the aisle from each other and bob was gesturing to dumb. Come on over. Superman decay was gonna sit with me so arm got over and they sat together during the dance funeral service. They get along The the the rivalry in the feud is is way overblown. I think they have a lot of respect for each other. Well i got just one or two popped up here from the people. We got emmanuel torres. This says what's your thoughts on the potential better. Be verse cannella as better be is on top rank and canellas been mentioned as a possible opponent. Yeah The fact that they have two different promoters is not a big deal It's very easy to make a deal if if any promotes if we promote it. Whoever promotes No problem. I haven't heard canals. Say he wants to play. Better be if but if he has something that could come together yeah. He's definitely expressed the and his trainer. Eddie renault so has expressed it thing again from a matchmaker standpoint..
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"regis program" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"Plus it's not on espn plus One or are you interested in this fight to. How will you watch this fight in three wise. Espn plus showing this court because it is on bt sport and is a queensberry promotions car yet. I think we're all surprised at. Espn did not pick up the fight. Because they have mostly picked up most of frank lawrence fights so it is surprising because joyce's a puncher and he's a guy people want to see and of course they put on a lot lesser fights on espn plus that people don't want to see. I'm kinda surprised that this will not be available to us guys. I mean there's no real legal way to watch the fight if you live in the us so you know that. That doesn't mean people won't find a way to to watch it but there's no there's it's not available to us in the us so it's disappointing. Because i think you know tax them he's gonna bring the fight to him but but he's going to lose and he's probably going to get knocked out but it's a real opponent for joyce after you know the biggest win of his career against Danny de blah. I mean it's not a it's not a gimme but he's you know he's of course favorite to win the fight and i think he will win But it's a fight. I think we would all like to see. And and i agree with you that it's disappointing. It's not available in the us. Absolutely well key I guess before we let you go to. Things is regis lying or is his fight with mikey being announced because he posted on his twitter yesterday. regis program versus mikey garcia to be announced. And do you think we get the rematch with jamaal. Charles and brian castagna. I'll take your second question. I do not think that we get a rematch. Between jamaal charles and brian costano as much as we all want see i do think that the mandatory obligations for those two fighters are going to take them in different directions for the time being and then maybe somewhere down the line. We they revisit it. But i don't see the rematch happening anytime soon carlos. Ibf mandatory is is way overdue He the wbz mandatory against Ericsson leuven is now do. Although i don't think they'll make that fight because because it's not. I don't think it's a marketable fight. I i don't see the Anyone willing to pay the money required for that to happen again. So i think he might make mandatory as ibm mandatory next and then the wb. Oh probably will order costano w His mandatory against. Tim zoo costano might have to go to australia for that. Fight if it winds up going to person or something. But i don't see that fight happening next and maybe not ever rematch between guys really akiva. You really think that al won't pull favor and have the wbz mandatory rather than go ibf route to melancholia or whoever this guy is well i well the thing is it's either that or he's going to have to go up the title because at some point your main events which is promoted. has taken under card slots on carlos last two fights to allow the fights to happen. And that's fine because pcs is paying for the fights But if charlie wants to remember the. Ibf is the organization that sticks to its rules. Unlike the other three. So they're gonna eventually order him to. And and why wouldn't charlie do it. He'll make a from what i've seen and His last two fights charles will destroy the ibm mandatory. And i i if it lasted four lowndes. I'd be stunned. Because he's been hurt in each of his last two fights against guys who were not anything resembling journal charl Having said that. I don't think the lubin fi is a fight that can be made because there's no interest in it whatsoever. People i think most people despite ericsson movements really good win against jayson rosario and the fact that he's six and since he has lost the trello i don't think people perceive that as a tough fight for trump. I think they can try to knock him out again. Because leuven chin is d- d- doesn't have reliable chin. That's putting it mildly. Probably so while. It's commendable that he's taken these fights and maybe he'll get another title shot. I don't think it's going to be instrumental charl. So i think the i f mandatory will be the way that they go maybe next Unless he gives up the title but like we were saying before guys the titles mean a lot to these fighters so. I don't think he's just going to willingly. Give up one of them And instead of taking this mandated fight. Let's not forget what your other question was. Nestle the mikey mikey and regis you know what let's put that on the back burner because let's assume you're right. He goes the for out. They don't vacate lubin. You know you say there's no interest so they need to give lubinov fight. Obviously having kind of ham is pushing danny garcia fi danny interview with me and miami. He said he wanted to move up to fifty four. He said he needed one fight. And then if they offered him djamil he would absolutely take it. Because he's in this for legacy. Do you think that's possible as danny too small does lubin hit too hard with al really lubin danny which then sets up german for his biggest fight because then he can get damn. He has a mandatory. I think the car see as you said. I think i think the garcia is going to fight once at fifty four to acclimate himself to the way class. I don't think it's going to be against some of the because that's not an easy fight. So you know. I that seems to me like if his endgame is to get to charlie when try to become one hundred fifty four pound champion. I don't think he's gonna walk through that fire necessarily to get there any any probably won't have to because they'll say. Hey look he's really a junior welterweight who's fought at welterweight and is moving up to one fifty four so let's give them a reasonable test at one fifty four before he tries to fight your mail trolley. And i'm not saying you would have earned shot at journal. Charlie oh by beating some you know. Be minus c. plus level fifty four pounded. But i think that's what's going to happen. I don't see him fighting. Eric's think eric's losing fight him. But i don't see garcia taking that type of fight when you have the payday and the opportunity of charl dangling in the background now like you said you seen lubin hurt. And his last couple of fights harrison just fought a well to wait. Does none of this entice these fighters do you think they. They're thinking or they're you know handlers are thinking safety i or is anyone looking at bad ella. Not being danny never being a two time to division three division champion. I mean if i could do that to harrison mean in danny at least not be knocked out and i don't know i think he should be able to hang with eric lubin. Who's never been the world champion again. I i. I'll just say what i said before. I think it's too much risk for him in his one hundred fifty four pound debut to do it. I don't see the he because he can fight a lesser guy.