21 Burst results for "Regional Victoria"

"regional victoria" Discussed on Uncommon

Uncommon

04:05 min | 6 months ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on Uncommon

"It's going to be on business marketing or a topic that we covered in the episode at all with love your support and it would help us in developing the intellect around the series but without going on too much longer. Let's get back into this episode. I think i think the whole car thing was ultimately. He's on doing again because things got wash behind. He's he's personality so it's going to be interesting. Four years are on the election. Rv debt has actually been cold yet or decided that border is gonna win until the electoral seat and declare for I think it's december. The elected sit and in january to the inauguration. But it's pretty pretty obvious. Like i'm like i don't even wanna listen to many of trump's tweets anymore to because i think it's quite obvious that joe biden is that's so what did you learn from that election period about messaging and strategy so to speak. Yeah i think what what you can learn from that. Is that even with good policy. The wrong face can be a real issue. i mean. Donald trump had impeccable policy really up until Code which was something that the democrats would have made some mistakes with you know remember. Donald trump was. The rice is closing the borders to china so early. According to nancy pelosi and joe biden others so they weren't offering anything different in fact paps even less But i think that don't personality. Certainly you know people look to donald trump. that's a strong president unfortunately the vision of a strong leader. He's great when you have good policy and good outcomes but when something is out of your control like kobe which out of control with most latest around the world and would have been out of control. Joe biden people. Look to you and still think you're strong later. Why didn't you do this. Why didn't you fix it. Why didn't you take control. We've been relying on you. You can take control of all of these other things. Why couldn't take control of this. And i think that imaging the strong later not having control of something is much worse since i've biden was the and people think all not really up to it you know. We can't blame him because look he was never gonna do it. That's much better position to be in than all my god. You're such a strong authority blade and now the what's happened just a bad image a lot. I like to save combat. Allowed in in this interview with you. He'd have so many. So many disagreements. But i understand what you're i understand. What you're saying is the messaging was very wrong. I i'm intrigued to he forts on because i think covid assume covert in general because that to me has been the ultimate trend of the year. It's quite obvious it's etc accelerated things that were already happening. Maybe brought them forward five years close onto there. We can talk about locally some big trends like i've just anecdotally noticed in my generation people moving more away from the cities because of that over my work so regional victoria being more important which excellent reasonably turn is is great but also interesting that some areas like mornington. Peninsula still is covered in re melvin. Which is so obvious that you know. They just didn't want people going down to hold on the hold arms. Exactly probably because of those kids who came back from some alpine retreat in canada infected twentieth getting sued by over with. So that's something i think. That's probably the intake but it was funny to the immediate reaction was going to sue you. It was pretty funny very very typical of that sort of so. So that's happened..

donald trump Joe biden trump nancy pelosi biden china mornington victoria melvin Peninsula canada
What happens if we don't get a vaccine? This is what 'COVID normal' looks like

Coronacast

03:52 min | 8 months ago

What happens if we don't get a vaccine? This is what 'COVID normal' looks like

"Now no minute pretty much every press conference and in lots of news coverage, keep hearing this term covert normal as if as if we all know what that even means, but it's not normal right? It's not abnormal that we used to know how meant to understand what's meant by the term covid normal covered normal at the moment depends on where you live in Australia. So covered normal in Victoria as we speak is really quite a severe lockdown even with restrictions lifted covered normal in New South Wales is You know it's not quite normal life but the you know indoor activities restricted there's no compulsory mask-wearing, but there are outbreaks. State is on a bit of age. Covered normal everywhere else in Australia is getting back to almost normal life which actually puts them at risk of covid nineteen should be. Deposited into their state for some reason. Well, that's not really normal. Though is it because normal life included overseas travel and that's something that seems to be off the table indefinitely and we've had a question for one about audience members about this. What is the endgame? For Ustralia not just the states? What does the next year look like if we don't get vaccine or the vaccine that does come isn't isn't effective enough at first well, in states like new. South. Wales and Victoria covered normal if you like the end game. Assuming that the virus continues to circulate is that we don't circuit quite as much. So it's not locked on. It's just that we don't get into circumstances where a lot of people are mixing indoors, consp-, read the virus. So we're GONNA fewer contacts on a daily basis to reduce the chances of picking up the virus or spreading the virus. Covered normal, but it's not a lockdown. It's just that you to be careful. Now the question you raise a good one, but let's talk about internal borders. So what happens if you lift the border restrictions across? Australia, when the still virus in New South Wales Victoria, well, there's not much virus. So the risk of spread to those states is low but shoot actually it sprayed. Does that mean that automatically West trillions and south Australians queenslanders means etc.. Territories that they have to change their behavior and they've got to restrict how they do things by going indoors and live in a different way. and Professor James McCall, University of Melbourne argues that they don't that in fact, they're covered normal in states with Novartis circulating with Borders Darn is actually the way people are living at the moment, but there's gotta be a heightened alert to the possibility that the virus could come in. So people have got to be aware of symptoms get tested and that the public health systems go onto it in terms of getting on top of testing and contact tracing and that the if you like the protection so that you can reach retain the behavior in those states that you've got at the moment. So news wasn't Toria a degree of social distancing but not. Too drastic but in other states, you can continue the way you're going as long as you're prepared to come forward for testing in large numbers and the systems prepared to pick that up and the an example James quoted was the spread from Melbourne to kill more. So Regional Victoria said, very little corona virus people are getting back to normal much faster. But in fact, the State got on top of the coolmore outbreak and indeed the shepherd and outbreak very very quickly and go to under control without rural and regional victorians having to change their behavior they are covered normal if you like. So this is good news moving forward is that you could. Lower the borders have much freer flow of people and that the compromise for people in the states with Navarro spread at the moment is just ready to come forward for tasting and the systems got ready to respond, which is a small price to pay for tourism and families getting back together again,

Australia Victoria Professor James Mccall New South Wales New South Wales Victoria Regional Victoria Wales Melbourne University Of Melbourne Ustralia Navarro Novartis
Are we just going to have to get used to dealing with outbreaks?

Coronacast

07:25 min | 8 months ago

Are we just going to have to get used to dealing with outbreaks?

"So one of the things that Australia has really relied on throughout the hall coronavirus pandemic sci-fi is lockdown as a way of getting a handle on what's happening and keeping cases to a minimum. We've seen that really happening in Victoria and a few days ago a special envoy from the World Health Organization was talking about how lockdowns shouldn't be the only sort of tool. That countries used to Cape a handle on the coronavirus and I think that some people in Victoria have sort of used those comments from the WHO as a reason to sort of say, we should be lifting Victoria's lockdown now but it's a bit more nuanced than that. Isn't it? This nuanced? We went into lockdown in March largely to stop the growing pandemic but also to allow the infrastructure for contracting testing to get into place, which is what the WHO, who say. There was an outbreak in Victoria now that I break in Victoria would have killed many many more people had they not to lockdown but in part the outbreak was due to a failure in contracting and testing at that time. So in many ways, they fulfilled whol criteria for lockdown, which is time to get your contact tracing and testing into shape, and in fact, through the second wave in. Victoria that's indeed what they've done some situation where Victoria New South. Wales are pretty XY Pixie in terms of unknown cases number of cases a day. Sorry Pixie. What the hell does that mean some kind of Scottish thing I grew up with meeting. You know roughly equal fair fair enough trying to get a new phrase into the Australian dictionary from Scotland. Anyway. Back to the point the point being. That, you said whereas in Victoria roughly equal and the argument is probably quite well made that there's not a lot of reason why you shouldn't have the restrictions roughly the same in both states the problem of Victoria is you don't WanNa let the break off suddenly because people will just start turning up on masters include a beach which means crowding into trams, etc, etc. so you've got up. Do fairly slowly and carefully, but the endpoint quite soon could be a similar situation to New South. Wales. But we've got to get used to and it's not a trivial phrase a new covid normal. We promised a few days ago that we were going to stop comparing new, south Wales and Victoria, but let's just do it one more time new south. Wales does seem to have like you say. Exceed Pixie level of similar levels virus to what we're seeing in Victoria or at least the confirmed cases that are coming through, and they don't have as many restrictions on them, and we do know as well that it's probably at least a year before we're going to have any kind of vaccine available to that sort of like what we're thinking of as being a trigger for going back to what we used to have as a normal life is what's happening in New South. Wales. Perhaps, a model for what Ustralia could look like over the next year. Well, I think West Australians queenslanders south. Australians would bridal a that because they've got almost nothing happening and they're saying, well, why should we have? Wills has belichick focused on new, south Wales and Victoria for the moment. But I think it is something that queenslanders and others need to be cognizant off is this something we should get used to what we're talking about here for people who don't live in New South Wales is an outbreak from GP clinic now, getting used to is different from getting complacent. So yes I think you gotta get used to the fact that there will be small outbreaks but what we should not do tolerate them and so they're. They're not to be tolerated and our behavior needs to change in the short to medium term which is. Continuing careful social distancing. I believe in new. South. Wales. It should be mandatory mask in public transport just as an extra layer of security. You don't seem to be going that way and really getting on top of outbreaks and people being prepared to get tested if symptoms are in areas where there are outbreaks and if we can do that, then we can cope with these outbreaks but we can't just say. Another outbreak. Let's move on. It's another outbreak. Oh, this could be the moment where this could be the hotel quarantine equivalent moment that we hadn't. In Victoria, whereas if we ignore it is going to get out of control. So get used to not really be able to deal with yes. But just quickly on that, we're talking about being able to be responsive to outbreaks but we see in Shepperton in regional Victoria, they had a the little outbreak happening there people have told to go on to get tested they've gone to go and get tested. They've done what's been asked but they haven't been. Able to access testing this huge queues, how are we going to be out of style up to these? Well, that's for health departments to sort out, but they've got to be ready for particularly in rural and regional areas because this is something that you just need one truck driver to have arrived in a place in spread it and we've already seen somebody hiding away in trying to get into Queensland you just need one person and to move into our networks and off. So everywhere it's got to be ready and you to be ready for scale up and a plan for scale up so. Somebody throws a switch and people start with doing and they set up to prop up clinics, and within a few hours you've got it all going and that's what people have got to plan for and the best thing that can happen is you never have to institute your emergency response, but your emergency response has got to be really Schmidt and if he wants to know. More about how we've tooled up for contact tracing, how good it is, they listen to yesterday's Khurana cast with Ryan McIntyre where we covered a lot of these issues and that chat with Rhino was so interesting and there was stuff in there that we couldn't fit into yesterday's show. So we thought we'd bring it back again in prerecorded form to answer a question from Ingrid. Where Ingrid's ask if a person who has the virus uses a toilet does the next person inhale the virus spray in the toilet is flushed with the lead up and is the virus in urine faeces? Yum. This is just the sort of question that croquettes listeners love energy with toilets. Let's have a listen to yesterday's comments by Rhino McIntyre, which weren't in the krona cast. So this is a bonus we're talking about. And toilets on aeroplanes. We do know that there is a risk with closed transport vehicles with its planes buses. There's been a number of outbreaks already described on airplanes on buses and other vehicles including A. A navy ship whether it was a very, very high tech right? the Theodore Roosevelt in the US. The risk isn't just from Aerosol, droplets spread I mean we know that the highest risk isn't people sitting closest to the infected person and that's been born out in previous studies with diseases like to book your license and Maizels. But the toilet is also respected. There was one study where they were known infected people on board everybody was wearing a mosque and one of the people who became infected took the mosque off in the toilet. So we know that flushing the toilet can create aerosolize -ation. Probably. Less. So on an airplane toilet because of the nature of those toilets that don't have water swilling around, but they still would be rissole generation from the flushing action. So, the hall toilet is probably highly contaminated. So even if you wash your hands afterwards, you could breathe in contaminated aerosols than when you come out even just touching the door handle would be a risk. So that's that's probably one of the real hot spots on an airplane. That was Professor Rhino McIntyre who is professor of global biosecurity at Curbing University of New South Wales

Victoria Wales South Wales Victoria New South Professor Rhino Mcintyre New South New South Wales Curbing University Of New Sout World Health Organization Cape A Pixie Australia Ingrid Shepperton Scotland Theodore Roosevelt Ustralia Rhino
Are big families the centre of Victoria's second wave?

Coronacast

05:29 min | 9 months ago

Are big families the centre of Victoria's second wave?

"So let's kick off with Victoria with as close to that seems to have sprung up from the Chechen shopping center cluster and it's moved out into regional Victoria. Now, it's some people in kill being infected. In a cafe and it just shows you the power of an outbreak and how this virus spreads through clusters and Robin more evenly spread such as influenza. And so for example, three of the cases of the fifteen. So caught a lot of cases yesterday where linked to the chat stone, which is club outbreak. This is a situation where you have got spread. It's still growing and they haven't been able to keep the legitimate so far. The chief health officer in Victoria Breath, Sutton explained why Victoria has been harder to do the contact tracing the nail swear because the family groups that are involved or have been involved a much larger. So where the family groups own averaging Australia to two and a half people. There more than six people in some situations, which means that you've got multiplications of complexity in terms of contact tracing. So each type provide you with another maybe ten people that you've got to contact, and if you've got six rather than two or three, it becomes very complicated and home said many times before is where you primarily catch covid nineteen, the covid nineteen virus. I was really surprised to see those statistics about the family size thought that was really interesting but I did wonder whether actually would make it easier if people living in the. Same. Household I thought that maybe it would make it easier to get in touch with them. It just creates far more people you've got to get in contact with, but yes, you're right. You're you're not chasing too many people depends how late you come to the events, and if you've if you're coming a bit later than you might have six people with Tim contacts each then if three or four days later and you haven't caught it in the first two or three days, then each one of those contacts is contained so it just multiplies out. So if people aren't coming forward for testing quickly or the contact tracing doesn't get on top of it quickly then you'd lose control of it to some extent. So fifteen new cases in Victoria. Are we getting out of control again down there I think what does shows is if if you remember a couple of weeks ago, the Burnet Institute released. Their modeling, which showed that if Torey took their food off the break too quickly on the twenty eighth of September, they could return to very large numbers very quickly and they were supporting the fact that the premier did not take the food off the break too quickly and it was fairly measured but it just shows you that if you lose control of an outbreak, this can grow very very quickly. So it doesn't mean it's to control. But. It does mean you're at high risk and it just shows you the burden. It was probably right if you had lifted your foot off the brake, it could be that you'll be dealing with multiple outbreaks because this is no breaking Chattan shopping center during lockdown. Or relative lockdown. So this is not good news, but at least they're across it and they don't seem to have too many cases under investigation at the moment, and that's the real danger in Victoria when they lose the plot and they just don't know where they're getting their infection from. Some out some more data that came up yesterday was that New South Wales had eleven, new cases all in hotel quarantines community transmission, which is really encouraging. But that seems like a large number of hotel quarantine cases. It just goes to show if we didn't have hotel quarantine those cases, it'd be out in the community. That's absolutely right. Our border control. The fact that we are an island has made an enormous difference to. This pandemic you've seen this huge second wave in Europe we would have had bet to So our border controls are incredibly important and it's not surprised by the way that you're seeing it live in cases because I assume that people are coming back from Europe and they're coming back from the United States and as they do so they're coming back from places where they've got second wave sometimes much larger than the first. Wave. So this is a situation where we would expect to be seeing more hotel quarantine hotel warranties could be really tight. It's probably too early for what the prime minister was suggesting, which is that you allow people to go into their own homes because the influx of people who are going to be positive is going to be growing but at least we're keeping the lid on it and I think as far as I'm aware. Of their keeping the only in Victoria and Queensland as well. So they were community transmission cases in New South Wales yesterday but there was also really low numbers of testing and they're still finding virus fragments in sewage. Yes. The way forward here has to be constant surveillance to see if you're missing cases and if you missing cases you've got to go in and you've got to try and do as close to possible mass testing. The still doing that with PR testing, but you could probably do it a bit more flexibly with rapid testing using rap protests are. Reasonably accurate. But you got to get in and find out where the viruses because I don't think we can any longer rely on people coming forward. I. Think there's fatigue I also think there's probably not much cold symptoms around because people aren't mixing as much. But you just cannot rely on the tasting regime. So you find it. I think Hawkesbury was one area in. New South. Wales. They've gone in and trying to extra testing and highlighting it to the local community. But really anybody listen to this wherever you are in Australia we've said it time and time again come forward for testing even if there's been no case in your state for. Weeks and weeks and weeks come forward just in case.

Victoria Australia Europe Influenza Burnet Institute Victoria Breath Wales Robin South Wales New South Wales Torey Chattan Hawkesbury TIM Prime Minister Chief Health United States Queensland
"regional victoria" Discussed on Giddy Up

Giddy Up

04:20 min | 9 months ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on Giddy Up

"Will you be the celebrity going to be donor TV appearance on a path everybody else can stay out I think if I needed some cash, that buddy will be kicked in for the premium. Sound signed double standards of Bush on what's it face that we all Docu sign she wouldn't do anything back. She should go swimming update this whole other sort of the lips and that wouldn't fade the sharks then we wouldn't have to do anything. On well, there was obviously story a couple of just throwing up every wake around. What this is doing to two families in real I wanNA play a little bit clicked on this is. A. Clipping context goes sixty seconds but I think it's important to hear the whole. The whole place giant walk was driving his recently purchased, Secondhand Khadijeh. Kagame Regional Victoria when he hit a tree and the bags filed to deploy the twenty four year old father of two is on life support at the Alfred Hospital in Melbourne but Judaic arriving virus restrictions the family of being told visitors. Are. Only allowed in special circumstances and they do not qualify checks brother Luke joins me now from hate Khadim Victoria he's joined by two of his family Frayn's full support look appreciate your time on what a distressing situation for you and your mom and Dad, what does the hospital side you when you ask to see? Jacob. Why why can't you see him on the special conditions. Basically, what they're saying is that he has to be practically dead to allow us to go in and say him. And as far as we can work on the special circumstances, you know he's on life support these fighting hard for his life. He had crashed odd four times in one day on the Saturday and all we want is we wanNA. Go same for five minutes so. Pretty pretty hot breaking to. The ECON- go and say you probably your son you know husband Bay and they offered they said y y for the life of me..

Jacob Bush Alfred Hospital husband Bay Khadim Victoria Victoria Melbourne Frayn Kagame Luke
"regional victoria" Discussed on No Agenda

No Agenda

08:05 min | 10 months ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on No Agenda

"Of those deaths occurred protease today. Today's include one mile in her IDs. Three Miles in the ninety S. One Mile in her one hundred. Listened. Sympathies and condolences. Of Families this'll be a very difficult. So that's what they're dealing with. Of Dies Lockdown Lock Them Down Paul lost, lock down the country because his old woman died of Covid. have. You ever talked to hundred year old woman type spoken to the two thousand year old man. Old Woman. Most of the we're just looking forward to it. Well you're generalizing now I don't know how many hundred year old people you know. Here's a bit from. This is. Paul Murray of Sky News. I think this is his own podcast possibly video podcast these days you don't know if someone's on TV from home or doing. Everything looks like a cheesy podcast. Don't really know what's what he does work for sky. News Australia. and. Here's what he said. Daniel Andrews. Is Lying to the people of Victoria and the media is helping him get away with it not John Surprise and notice how any Murdoch property whether it's the United States Fox News or sky they always feel they're not part of the media were not part of the mainstream media, which, of course is laughable but okay, last week I'm GonNa Plan I'll. Tell you about the plan released the plan, the other plans, no real plan. This is the real plane. Here's the deal. These are the key things you need to know about what has been announced in reality. The curfew will stay in Victoria not for two more weeks, but until the end of next month until October twenty six regional Victoria is still going to be punished until October at the earliest. Bars and cafes mine. Being absolutely sucked by this premier, they will be limited to just people. Even. If we get to November. And when it comes to the reopening from a bacterial bunch of Deitz, but it's not really about the nights. It's about the cases. Can you believe this? I mean that that's just a preliminary and then it's going to be based on this crazy low number of case cases cases per day and the numbers are numbers that you just have to hit. Once you have to hit for fourteen days offer twenty eight dies. Here's the premier talking about his plan to the media said was so damn amazing reality nothing really changes until maybe October twenty six all the time or apologize for the sixteenth find ourselves. Apologize for the for the reality that we find ourselves. But. We can't change that we can't simply wish that away. This job. The. Late, at night. He's about making tough Kohl's but it's also being accountable and I'm a hundred percent accountable for where we find ourselves but equally accountable for getting us to the other side of this. Now, we should have been able to so you next Tuesday to these. I. Love that that you can't see what he's saying here. See you next Tuesday. Ozzy's man they'll say anything. Politically, accountable forgetting to the other side of this. Now, we should have been able to say next Tuesday to these virus months ago but because of the behavior and the decisions of Andrews in his government, there was a second wife Hotel Quarantine has worked with are thousands of people that are coming from overseas currently in Sydney. There are four and a half thousand people. The system didn't work because not because the people of Victoria did the wrong thing but because Daniel Andrews did the wrong thing. No this is where I am I'm sure a lot of people watch this guy and they're real happy that is blaming the prime minister. Your problem is not with the hotel. You think seriously that you wouldn't be locked down if if they hadn't put the idiot Uber Drivers in front of these so-called hotels now you cannot stop this airborne by the way Maurice the dog the top dog Maurice. He has had a paper peer reviewed and accepted into. One of the elsevier's Dutch medical publications about about his aerosol spread. Yeah Yeah. Yeah it's Kinda like you heard it here I unless you living in Holland? And the other thing is we're learning that the tests are crap. Detest are no good. The PCR test just have had too high a false positive rate in this crazy stuff going on. Here's a woman, Quebec a nurse where else to start other than how frustrating is this very dating Especially, but also very stressful when she first tested positive for covid nineteen hundred. House. Kuti thought. She'd be finding a couple of weeks that first test came back may six. But as an orderly at this Montreal seniors residents to be allowed back. I needed to negative tests. She hasn't been able to get even one. You go back and get tested again again and again, and every time it comes back positive. How many times so far? Eight Times. So that's clearly not right. Clearly. And here is finally, we've got a professor at winded like I said it before I'll say it again this is said and done about a year or two from now the. That will emerge are GONNA be mind boggling. I think some of that starting here. This is Carl Hannigan is a professor of evidence based medicine on the PR tests. He's going to explain he's going to explain exactly why sn our when you do a pee test you basically amplify the amount of our need putting a DNA copy and then you exponentially double that amount of. DNA. And that's called the cycle show and the more time you do that. The less virus he starter. and. This is important because you can basically pick up a single copy of our. Rene in individual. There is a complete difference between you being infectious, which is about seven days from the onset of symptoms to about day you cannot find infectious people apart from the few people end up to you who are worsening. Have found our rene shedding in evidence for seventy eight days because the Ra's only twenty base pairs long. And it takes much longer for you to degrade the Rene. So when you picking obeys intimacy people. You have no idea if they have active infection. Or did they have it two months ago because you intimately shed this hour rene and it's the same for all viruses. Now, you can put in a fresh old level. We says, you are infectious which she's about a million copies per mille in some people, which is a cycle fresh showed him about twenty five. and. If you do that, you can pick the people who are infectious but the way we deploying the test at the moment is in a sort of ragbag way that says whatever amount of our Rene you've gone bored you are positive. And we are going to see this move forward and we've wrote this about two or three times in the in the spectator and cast moving forward the discussion. Now on the radar because our twenty five. Now. Looked at this and.

Daniel Andrews Rene Paul Murray Victoria Maurice professor Australia. Sky News Kohl Ozzy prime minister United States Quebec Kuti Carl Hannigan Holland John Surprise
"regional victoria" Discussed on No Agenda

No Agenda

08:07 min | 10 months ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on No Agenda

"Updike. Two of those deaths occurred protease today. Today's include one mile in her IDs. Three Miles in the ninety S. One Mile in her one hundred. Listened. Sympathies and condolences. Of. Families this'll be a very difficult. So. That's what they're dealing with. Of Dies Lockdown Lock Them Down Paul Lost Lock down the country because his old woman died of Covid. Exactly I don't know if you've ever talked to hundred year old woman type spoken to the two thousand year old man. Old. Woman, most of the are just looking forward to it. Well you're generalizing now I don't know how many hundred year old people you know. Here's a bit from. This is. Paul Murray of Sky News. I think this is his own podcast possibly video podcast these days you don't know if someone's on TV from home or they're doing. Everything looks like a cheesy podcast. Don't really know what's what he does work for Sky News Australia. And here's what he said. Daniel. Andrews is lying to the people of Victoria and the media is helping him get away with it not John Surprise and notice how any Murdoch property whether it's the United States Fox News or sky they always feel they're not part of the media were not part of the mainstream media, which, of course is laughable but okay last week I'm GonNa Plan I'll tell you About the plan or released the plan, the other plans, no real plan. This is the real plane. Here's the deal. These are the key things you need to know about what has been announced in reality. The curfew will stay in Victoria not for two more weeks, but until the end of next month, until October twenty, six, regional Victoria is still going to be punished until mid October at the earliest. Bars and cafes mine. Being absolutely, sucked by this premier, they will be limited to just people. Even, if we get to November. And when it comes to the reopening from a bacterial bunch of Deitz, but it's not really about the nights. It's about the cases. Can you believe this I mean that that's just a preliminary and then it's going to be based on this crazy low number of case cases cases per day and the numbers are numbers that you just have to hit. Once you have to hit for fourteen days offer twenty eight dies. Here's the premier talking about his plan to the media said was so damn amazing reality nothing really changes until maybe October twenty six all the time or apologize for the sixteenth s we found ourselves. Apologize for the for the reality that we find ourselves. But. We can't change that we can't simply wish that away. This job. The. Late at night. He's about making tough Kohl's but it's also being accountable and I'm a hundred percent accountable for where we find ourselves but equally accountable for getting us to the other side of this. Now, we should have been able to say so you next Tuesday to these. I love that that you can't see what he's saying here. See you next Tuesday. Ozzy's man they'll say anything. Politically accountable forgetting to the other side of this. Now, we should have been able to say next Tuesday to these virus months ago but because of the behavior and the decisions of Andrews in his government, there was a second wife. Hotel Quarantine has worked with are thousands of people that are coming from overseas currently in Sydney there are four and a half thousand people the system didn't work because not because the people of Victoria did the wrong thing but because Daniel Andrews did the wrong thing. No this is where I am I'm sure a lot of people watch this guy and they're real. Happy that is blaming the prime minister. Your problem is not with the hotel. You think seriously that you wouldn't be locked down if if they hadn't put the idiot Uber Drivers in front of these so-called. Hotels. Now you cannot stop this airborne by the way Maurice the dog, the top dog Maurice. He has had a paper peer reviewed and accepted into. One of the elsevier's Dutch medical publications about about his aerosol spread. Yeah Yeah. Yeah. kind of like you heard it here I unless you living in Holland. and. The other thing is we're learning that the tests are crap. Detest are no good. The PCR test just have had too high a false positive rate in this crazy stuff going on. Here's a woman Quebec a nurse I don't know where else to start other than how frustrating is this? Stating. especially. When she first tested positive for covid nineteen hundred house. Kuti. Thought she'd be finding a couple of weeks that first test came back may six. But as an orderly at this Montreal seniors residents to be allowed back I needed to negative tests. She hasn't been able to get even one you go back and get tested again again and again, and every time it comes back positive. How many times so far? Eight Times. So that's clearly not right. Clearly And here is finally we've got a professor at windsurf I've said it before I'll say it again, this is said and done about a year or two from now the. That will emerge are GONNA be mind. Boggling. Thinks some of that starting here. This is Carl Hannigan he is a professor of evidence based medicine. On the PR, tests he's going to explain he's going to explain exactly why sn our when you do a pee test you basically amplify the amount of our need putting a DNA copy and then you exponentially double that amount of DNA. And that's called the cycle show and the more time you do that. The less virus he. Starter. And this is important because you can basically pick up a single copy of our Rene in individual. There is a complete difference between you being infectious, which is about seven days from the onset of symptoms to about day you cannot find infectious people apart from the few people end up to you who are worsening. We have found our rene shedding in evidence for seventy eight days because the Ra's only twenty base pairs long. And it takes much longer for you to degrade the Rene. So when you picking obeys intimacy people. You have no idea if they have active infection. Or did they have it two months ago because you intimately shed this hour rene and it's the same for all viruses. Now. You can put in a fresh old level. We says, you are infectious which she's about a million copies per mille in some people, which is a cycle fresh showed him about twenty five. And if you do that, you can pick the people who are infectious but the way we deploying the test at the moment is in a sort of ragbag way that says whatever amount of our Rene, you've gone bored you are positive. And we are going to see this move forward and we've wrote this about two or three times in the in the spectator and cast moving forward the discussion. Now on the radar because our twenty five. Now, looked at this and.

Daniel Andrews Rene Victoria Covid Paul Murray Maurice Updike. Sky News Australia professor Sky News Kohl Ozzy prime minister United States Kuti Carl Hannigan Quebec
"regional victoria" Discussed on No Agenda

No Agenda

08:08 min | 10 months ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on No Agenda

"Yesterday's updike. Two of those deaths occurred protease today. Today's include one mile in her IDs. Three Miles in the ninety S. One Mile in her one hundred. Listened Sympathies and condolences. Nice families, this'll be a very difficult. So that's what they're dealing with. Of, dies lockdown lock them down Paul Lost Lock down the country because his old woman died of Covid. Exactly. You've ever talked to hundred year old woman type spoken to the two thousand year old man. Woman, most of the we're just looking forward to it. Well you're generalizing now I. Don't know how many hundred year old people you know. Here's a bit from. This is. Paul Murray of Sky News. I think this is his own podcast possibly video podcast these days you don't know if someone's on TV from home or they're doing. Everything looks like a cheesy podcast. Don't really know what's what he does work for Sky News Australia. and. Here's what he said. Daniel. Andrews, is lying to the people of Victoria and the media is helping him get away with it not John Surprise and notice how any Murdoch property whether it's the United States Fox News or sky they always feel they're not part of the media were not part of the mainstream media, which, of course is laughable. But okay, last week I'm GonNa Plan I'll tell you. About the plan or released the plan, the other plans, no real plan. This is the real plane. Here's the deal. These are the key things you need to know about what has been announced in reality. The curfew will stay in Victoria not for two more weeks, but until the end of next month, until October twenty six regional Victoria is still going to be punished until mid October at the earliest. Baas. and. Cafes mine. Being absolutely sucked by this premier, they will be limited to just people. Even if we get to November. And when it comes to the reopening from a bacterial bunch of Deitz, but it's not really about the nights. It's about the cases. Can you believe this I mean that that's just a preliminary and then it's going to be based on this crazy low number of case cases cases per day and the numbers are numbers that you just have to hit. Once you have to hit for fourteen days offer twenty eight dies. Here's the premier talking about his plan to the media said was so damn amazing reality nothing really changes until maybe October twenty, six all the time or apologize for the sixteenth s we find ourselves. Apologize for the for the reality that we find ourselves. But. We can't change that we can't simply wish that away. This job. The Late at night. He's about making tough Kohl's, but it's also being accountable and I'm a hundred percent accountable for where we find ourselves but equally accountable for getting us to the other side of this. Now, we should have been able to say so you next Tuesday to these. I love that that you can't see what he's saying here. See you next Tuesday. Ozzy's man they'll say anything. Politically accountable forgetting to the other side of this. Now, we should have been able to say next Tuesday to these virus months ago but because of the behavior and the decisions of Andrews in his government, there was a second wife Hotel Quarantine has worked with are thousands of people that are coming from overseas currently in Sydney there are four and a half thousand people. The system didn't work because not because the people of Victoria did the wrong thing but because Daniel Andrews did the wrong thing. No this is where I am I'm sure a lot of people watch this guy and they're real. Happy that is blaming the prime minister. Your problem is not with the hotel. You think seriously that you wouldn't be locked down if if they hadn't put the idiot Uber Drivers in front of these so-called hotels now you cannot stop this airborne by the way Maurice the dog the top dog. Maurice Key has had a paper peer reviewed and accepted into. One of the elsevier's Dutch medical publications about about his aerosol spread. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. kind of like you heard it here I unless you living in Holland. And the other thing is we're learning that the tests are crap. Detest are no good. The PCR test just have had too high a false positive rate in this crazy stuff going on. Here's a woman Quebec a nurse. I don't know where else to start other than how frustrating is this? Stating especially. But also very stressful when she first tested positive for covid Nineteen Hundred House Kuti thought she'd be finding a couple of weeks that first test came back may six. But as an orderly at this Montreal seniors residents to be allowed back I needed to negative tests. She hasn't been able to get even one. You go back and get tested again again and again, and every time it comes back positive. How many times so far? Eight Times So that's clearly not right. Clearly. And here is finally, we've got a professor at windsurf I've said it before I'll say it again this is said and done about a year or two from now the. That will emerge are GONNA be mind boggling. I. Think some of that starting here. This is Carl Hannigan is a professor of evidence based medicine on the PR tests. He's going to explain he's GonNa splaine exactly. Why sn our? When you do a pee test you basically amplify the amount of our need putting a DNA copy and then you exponentially double that amount of DNA. And that's called the cycle show and the more time you do that. The less virus he starter. And this is important because you can basically pick up a single copy of our Rene in individual. There is a complete difference between you being infectious, which is about seven days from the onset of symptoms to about day you cannot find infectious people apart from the few people end up to you who are worsening. Found our Rene shedding in evidence for seventy eight days because the Ra's only twenty base pairs. Long. And it takes much longer for you to degrade the Rene. So when you picking obeys intimacy people. You have no idea if they have active infection. Or did they have it two months ago because you intimately shed this hour rene and it's the same for all viruses. Now, you can put in a fresh old level. We says, you are infectious which she's about a million copies per mille in some people, which is a cycle fresh showed him about twenty five. And if you do that, you can pick the people who are infectious but the way we deploying the test at the moment is in a sort of ragbag way that says whatever amount of our Rene you've gone bored you are positive. And we are going to see this move forward and we've wrote this about two or three times in the in the spectator and cast moving forward the discussion. Now on the radar because our twenty five. Now looked at this and.

Rene Daniel Andrews Paul Murray Victoria Maurice Key professor Covid updike Sky News Australia. Sky News Ozzy United States prime minister Baas. Kuti Kohl Carl Hannigan
"regional victoria" Discussed on No Agenda

No Agenda

08:08 min | 10 months ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on No Agenda

"Since yesterday's updike. Two of those deaths occurred protease today. Today's include one mile in her IDs. Three Miles in the ninety S. One Mile in her one hundred. Listened. Sympathies and condolences. Of. Families this'll be a very difficult. So that's what they're dealing with. Of Dies lockdown lock them, down Paul lost lock down the country because his old woman died of Covid. Exactly I don't know if you've ever talked to hundred year old woman type spoken to the two thousand year old man. Old Woman most of the we're just looking forward to it. Well. You're generalizing now I don't know how many hundred year old people you know. Here's a bit from. This is. Paul Murray of Sky News. I think this is his own podcast possibly video podcast these days you don't know if someone's on TV from home or doing. Everything looks like a cheesy podcast don't really know what's what he does work for Sky News Australia. And here's what he said. Daniel Andrews is lying to the people of Victoria and the media is helping him get away with it not John Surprise and notice how any Murdoch property whether it's the United States Fox News or sky they always feel they're not part of the media were not part of the mainstream media, which of course is laughable. But okay last week I'M GONNA plan, I'll tell. You about the plan or released the plan, the other plans, no real plan. This is the real plane. Here's the deal. These are the key things you need to know about what has been announced in reality. The curfew will stay in Victoria not for two more weeks but until the end of next month, until October twenty, six, regional Victoria is still going to be punished until October at the earliest. BAAS and cafes mine. Being absolutely sucked by this premier, they will be limited to just people. Even if we get to November. and. When it comes to the reopening till you hall bunch of Deitz but it's not really about the nights. It's about the cases. Can you believe this I mean that that's just a preliminary and then it's going to be based on this crazy low number of case cases cases per day and the numbers are numbers that you just have to hit. Once you have to hit for fourteen days offer twenty eight dies. Here's the premier talking about his plan to the media said was so damn amazing reality nothing really changes until maybe October twenty six all the time or apologize for the sixteenth s we find ourselves. Apologize for the for the reality that we find ourselves. But We can't change that. We can't simply wish that away. This job. The Late at night. He's about making tough Kohl's but it's also being accountable and I'm a hundred percent accountable for where we find ourselves. But equally accountable for getting us to the other side of this. Now, we should have been able to say see you next Tuesday to these. I. Love that that you can't see what he's saying here. See you next Tuesday. Ozzy's man they'll say anything. Politically accountable for getting us to the other side of this. Now, we should have been able to say next Tuesday to these virus months ago but because of the behavior and the decisions of Andrews in his government, there was a second wife. Hotel. Quarantine has worked with are thousands of people that are coming from overseas currently in Sydney, there are four and a half thousand people the system didn't work because not because the people of Victoria did the wrong thing but because Daniel Andrews did the wrong thing. No this is where I am I'm sure a lot of people watch this guy and they're real. Happy that is blaming the prime minister. Your problem is not with the hotel. You think seriously that you wouldn't be locked down if if they hadn't put the idiot Uber Drivers in front of these so-called hotels now you cannot stop this airborne by the way Maurice the dog, the top dog Maurice. He has had a paper peer reviewed and accepted into. One of the elsevier's Dutch medical publications about about his aerosol spread. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. kind of like you heard it here I unless you living in Holland. And the other thing is we're learning that the tests are crap. Detest are no good. The PCR test just have had too high a false positive rate in this crazy stuff going on. Here's a woman Quebec a nurse where else to start other than how frustrating is this very dating. Especially but also very stressful when she first tested positive for covid nineteen, Hundred House Kuti thought she'd be finding a couple of weeks that first test came back may six. But as an orderly at this Montreal seniors residents to be allowed back, I needed to negative tests. She hasn't been able to get even one. You go back and get tested again again and again, and every time it comes back positive. How many times so far? Eight Times. So that's clearly not right. Clearly. And here is finally, we've got a professor at WINDSURF. I've said it before I'll say it again this is said and done about a year or two from now the. That will emerge are GONNA be mind boggling. Thinks. Some of that starting here this is Carl Hannigan he is a professor of evidence based medicine on the PR tests. He's going to explain he's going to explain exactly why sn our when you do a pee test you basically amplify the amount of our need putting to a DNA copy and then you exponentially double that amount of DNA. And that's called the cycle show and the more time you do that. The less virus he. Starter. And this is important because you can basically pick up a single copy of our Rene in individual. There is a complete difference between you being infectious, which is about seven days from the onset of symptoms to about day you cannot find infectious people apart from the few people end up to you who are worsening. have. Found our Rene shedding in evidence for seventy eight days because the Ra's only twenty base pairs long. And it takes much longer for you to degrade the Rene. So when you picking obeys intimacy people. You have no idea if they have active infection. Or did they have it two months ago because you intimately shed this hour rene and it's the same for all viruses. Now you can put in a fresh old level. We says, you are infectious, which she's about a million copies per mille in some people, which is a cycle fresh showed him about twenty five. And if you do that, you can pick the people who are infectious but the way we deploying the test at the moment is in a sort of ragbag way that says whatever amount of our Rene you've gone bored you are positive. And we are going to see this move forward and we've wrote this about two or three times in the in the spectator and cast moving forward the discussion. Now, on the radar because our twenty five. Now looked at this and.

Rene Daniel Andrews Victoria Paul Murray professor Covid updike Maurice Sky News Australia Hundred House Sky News Kohl Ozzy United States prime minister Carl Hannigan Holland
"regional victoria" Discussed on Coronacast

Coronacast

04:09 min | 11 months ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on Coronacast

"Podcast all about the coronavirus I'm health report a Teigen Taylor on physician journalist tournament swollen. It's Monday the seventeenth of August. So let's start by talking about Victoria, again, it's really hard to say that the new numbers, each dia trending downwards and Regional Victoria which he was saying last week. So the same to be a cause of concern is also looking better but one of the things that he's still a bit worrying is it seems that infections in healthcare workers is still quite high. It's sometimes really hard to make sense of a Victorian numbers and not entirely transparent. Backlog. But if you look at healthcare worker numbers, they've bouncing along and they don't seem to be coming down but the could be, but we just haven't been told they are. But if you just what's reported and there there are a couple of bumps along the way that could spoil the story for Victoria one is healthcare workers. The fossils don't control it. There's been a big outbreak in the all Melbourne hospital I noticed that they're investigating Franson Hospital Monash. Medical Centre Monash. Health. So then the question is just what's happening with them because that could be a serious issue even though the numbers are going down regional? Victoria was concern it looks as if that might well be coming under control states reluctant and mandatory masquerading across the whole Victoria and of course, aged care could still break out and lose control. But hopefully, not know that they've seemed to go their act together with the age care between the Commonwealth and the state and additional resources going in. So. It's not a done deal yet, but it does look good and then the other outbreak that we should have a chat about his New Zealand and one of the things that we're getting a lot of questions about is there seem to be. There's all sorts of reports about how the outbreak kicked off thereafter more than one hundred days of community transmission. One of the theories is that maybe came via contaminated freight in cold storage..

Victoria Teigen Taylor Regional Victoria Franson Hospital Monash Medical Centre Monash New Zealand Melbourne
"regional victoria" Discussed on Coronacast

Coronacast

02:43 min | 11 months ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on Coronacast

"An ABC podcast. Hello this is corona cost a podcast all about the coronavirus on health reported Teigen Taylor on physician and journalist author Norman Swollen. It's Friday, the fourteenth of August, and we're finally saying a more decisive downturn in Victoria Norman. Yesterday, there was less than three hundred new cases for the first time since last month and eight deaths, which was the lowest death count in a week is this a? Sign that we were heading in the right direction. Are we still aiming zero as the end goal? I don't think Victoria's ever save is hitting zero but if you look around the country, well, let's just start with the numbers from yesterday and we were talking before today's numbers are out. It's likely that the deaths unfortunately could go your bounce around a bit for the next few days because you've. Still, got the flow through from those very big days last week in the week before last in Victoria. So unfortunately, I think more people are GonNa die a tragic though that is to say, but if you look at the seven day rolling average as my friend Casey Briggs does our friend Casey Briggs stars the numbers are going to they're going down consistently. So it's really good news the bumps. In the road along here could be aged care if they lose the plot with aged care and don't do that well, then aged care could take off again healthcare workers are always worry and regional Victoria's awarded but it looks as if it is going in the right direction just for my eagle, it's happening three days later tonight predicted. But what the heck it's great but this happening but going. Back to that question about going to zero. Here's the issue which we've spoken about before in. Krona. Casts is that many states and territories are already at zero yet another shoutout to the act because they get really upset with us as does any mention them to places where the are at zero spread they've had. This Tasmania recently a case, but no spread from that case. So what's in it to raise the borders, open the borders to Victorians and New South Wales people if indeed we don't have zero spread and that's a political issue. So I think New South Wales and Victoria have to go to zero sprayed and I think. I would point out that twitter told us to wait 'til Thursday until we saw the drop and so they were right maybe wrong woman to just why would I ever disbelieve twitter? I mean, seriously Victoria's going through a lot of pain to get to these low in numbers and new. Zealand was in a hugely hot lockdown thought they'd completely eliminated the virus and its comeback that had another. The cases of community transmission are on the rise again. What does the New Zealand experienced? Tell us about elimination as the Game Refrigerant New Zealand teaches us is about language here..

Victoria Victoria Norman Game Refrigerant New Zealand Casey Briggs Norman Swollen twitter New Zealand South Wales Teigen Taylor ABC Zealand Tasmania
"regional victoria" Discussed on Coronacast

Coronacast

05:08 min | 11 months ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on Coronacast

"A letter from Singapore to a surgical journal in. May about Saint. Hospital. In Singapore's Russell you hospital fourteen hundred beds and they've looked after the by the time this person that written in late May. They had loot after about seven hundred and fifty people covid nineteen with zero healthcare worker infections there'd been one person nurse in March but it wasn't caught in the hospital zero and what they've been doing they've been using Australian technology. There's an Australian company in New South Wales that that has a mask and it's a mask attached to our hip filter. So it's an enclosed breathing system, a respirator system which filters the virus out. And and they ordered something like seven hundred of these respirator masks before covid nineteen and had them there and they've been using them and they credit this significantly for the lack of at least in May healthcare workers spread. I understand that this mask system selling hugely overseas but not many facilities in our home country using it. Let's also talk about New South Wales. There's been some of the cost is there have have grown Bhagat including ones around schools and I was wondering whether is it happening in schools or is it is it more that it's clustering around school community advocates both interestingly vitamins base come back into the scene after three and a half weeks and I think that's around a school as well. So this is the story that we've spoken many times is that you can get the subterranean spread in communities with very little symptoms and then suddenly it pops out I mean it's possible that you've got somebody visiting. From another area but most of the visiting I think from to blame become Kendra and here's our shoutout to the act because we're always getting people complaining never mentioned the Act Act zero spread well done act, which makes it unlikely that somebody who? Spread it to Bateman. Space. But yeah and Tara School in Sydney as well ago school in Sydney. CVS spread there I think it's both where you bring it in and it spreads within two. So it's not true that schools aren't a problem. It's certainly a problem where people mix as well whatever the reason. So if transmission isn't coming onto control in new, south Wales mean joys asking, should we just be going into lockdown now? Do they do they need to bite the bulletin guy? Now I don't know Vance's I. It's not an easy question when you've got between ten and twenty cases a day but yesterday was a bit worrying twenty, two cases I think it was. And in young people as well, which is the community which is most commonly infected. What you'd go to before that in New South Wales is mandatory mask-wearing and I'm not quite sure why they're holding back on that. We should just bite the bullet and got a mandatory masks while you're sorting much community transmission of unknown origin you've got and if it keeps on popping up that you would go to at least stage three quite soon. You'd start with mandatory mask-wearing and some parts of New South Wales. was quite a lot of people still cuddled people walking around already with masks it wouldn't take very much to move to that level..

New South Wales Tara School Singapore Russell you hospital South Wales. Sydney Kendra Bhagat Bateman Vance
"regional victoria" Discussed on Coronacast

Coronacast

04:38 min | 11 months ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on Coronacast

"This is an ABC podcast. Hello, this is corona cost a podcast. Virus I'm health reported taken Tyler, and I'm physician journalists, Alter Norman Swan. It's Wednesday, the twelfth of August. So it's really great to see that the numbers in Melvina starting to level off a little bit which is Greg. Norman but what we're now seeing in Victoria is that country areas seem to be. The case of seem to be increasing the are on average. That's right. So they're the interesting figures from yesterday are looks even Steven. So my precipitous decline is not happening and unfortunately for Torian. So let's hope it happens soon but sitting underneath or some some figures where regional Victoria is pretty stubbornly persistent there the numbers are up and down, and if you take the average, the trend is. Still although maybe it's just turning the corner with Stage three Geelong. Bendigo is a problem and so there is fire circulating in regional. Victoria and that's holding up. That's underpinning some of the numbers that you're seeing out to Victoria and it's a real policy issue here because they're going to stage three, they don't necessarily believe they have to because a lot of country areas don't have any covered. Had No experience of it. But you could envisage a scenario which would be terrible scenario, which is that the solve the problem in Melbourne and Mitchell Shire, but regional Victoria takes off big time and it doesn't take much to take off. So the question is, do they go to stage four in some parts of regional, Victoria Ledge and Bendigo? Right it wouldn't have to be the whole rest of the state but in those other other places that seem to be emerging hotspots, perhaps they do need stronger restrictions there your and ring-fencing them and so so that you're trying to do what the actually didn't do properly in the thirty six suburbs in. Melbourne. All those weeks ago. Is. Do that in those in those regional centres and then quite a few healthcare workers perhaps about one hundred in the figures that came out your as well..

Victoria Steven Bendigo Victoria Ledge Norman Swan Melbourne ABC Tyler Melvina Torian Greg Mitchell Shire
As Melbourne Recovers, Regional Victoria Is Struggling

Coronacast

04:17 min | 11 months ago

As Melbourne Recovers, Regional Victoria Is Struggling

"So it's really great to see that the numbers in Melvina starting to level off a little bit which is Greg. Norman but what we're now seeing in Victoria is that country areas seem to be. The case of seem to be increasing the are on average. That's right. So they're the interesting figures from yesterday are looks even Steven. So my precipitous decline is not happening and unfortunately for Torian. So let's hope it happens soon but sitting underneath or some some figures where regional Victoria is pretty stubbornly persistent there the numbers are up and down, and if you take the average, the trend is. Still although maybe it's just turning the corner with Stage three Geelong. Bendigo is a problem and so there is fire circulating in regional. Victoria and that's holding up. That's underpinning some of the numbers that you're seeing out to Victoria and it's a real policy issue here because they're going to stage three, they don't necessarily believe they have to because a lot of country areas don't have any covered. Had No experience of it. But you could envisage a scenario which would be terrible scenario, which is that the solve the problem in Melbourne and Mitchell Shire, but regional Victoria takes off big time and it doesn't take much to take off. So the question is, do they go to stage four in some parts of regional, Victoria Ledge and Bendigo? Right it wouldn't have to be the whole rest of the state but in those other other places that seem to be emerging hotspots, perhaps they do need stronger restrictions there your and ring-fencing them and so so that you're trying to do what the actually didn't do properly in the thirty six suburbs in. Melbourne. All those weeks ago. Is. Do that in those in those regional centres and then quite a few healthcare workers perhaps about one hundred in the figures that came out your as well. So healthcare workers are really turning out to be a major issue and a major problem I. Mean we did talk about this a little bit yesterday but just to recap what what are the main ways that we can stop transmission among healthcare workers? Well, it's multi faceted. It's people coming from areas where there is cover nineteen and bringing it in with them, but it's almost certainly mostly caught in the healthcare environment. In fact, that's what Brett sunset a few days ago. And it means that they've got to really get tough about case definition recognizing where there's risk is probably risk all over the place and that P probably needs to be much more widely warn and they've just got to be risk averse one of the people who one of our listeners has written in saying that we should be talking about the fact that is airborne when it comes to protecting healthcare workers did I need to have more negative pressure rooms in hospitals and those sorts of things very difficult to engineer negative. Pressure rooms the so it's fine to say that, but you've got to it's a big deal to have a negative pressure room. So for people who don't know what we're talking about, this is where you suck air in from outside your essentially removing the air from the environment and fresh air is coming in but the problem sometimes with negative pressure is that the arrogance recirculated internally as well so that you're not Nisus you might be actually spreading infection of try to look at this some the happy indications where some single rooms. which are not negative pressure. And we our people are awake not on a ventilator. So if you're on a ventilator. In an intensive care unit, there are viral filters on the ventilator. But if you're in oxygen with covid nineteen in a single room, it's possible that that virus is being circulated through the rest of the intensive care unit and I've heard stories and yet to actually have them confirm. That this is a common problem internationally with intensive care units and in Canada, they've punched holes in windows and Putin, extractor fans into the windows to solve this problem and I know that some intensive care directors are concerned about this but I've tried to pin down and I think there is some variation around the place. So you see you've got to be really careful with ventilation and lots of fresh air coming in in internal environments in hospitals, and it's not entirely clear how people catching it, but we almost certainly don't have full blown. E where we need

Bendigo Victoria Steven Melbourne Victoria Ledge Melvina Greg Norman Torian Brett Mitchell Shire Putin Engineer Canada
"regional victoria" Discussed on Coronacast

Coronacast

08:39 min | 1 year ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on Coronacast

"Hi Dr Norman Swan physician journalists from our INS health report so that cases in New South Wales really growing way not gonNA stop banning mass gatherings for notice growing in New South Wales and memory. Global audience here. The growing in places like the United States and Canada too. So it's not just here and the issue I think for all our countries is when you as you say star band. Mass gatherings SORTA BE PAROCHIAL AUTO PEOPLE. Who listen to us from overseas but which has had a music festival in Victoria in Regional Victoria. That's some state here and somebody's compulsive twelve thousand. People were at that. So what do you do with the twelve thousand people? We've got a situation where the government has just said the other day that we're going to spend two point four billion on various things about testing and fever clinics. And what have you and yet? There are proudly continuing with the Australian Grand Prix which we record people are going to turn up. And our prime minister proudly said he's turning up to his football match to watch Cornell You know basically the sharks played the rabbitohs where maybe forty or sixty thousand people are going to turn up and thinks that's fine and the answer is if you were to ask an Italian in northern Italy when you were at one hundred and fifty cases in Italy. What would you wish you'd done and what would you think? If the Italian Grand Prix had gone ahead and various. Prove all matches would you? Would you actually have canceled? What do you think? The answer's going to be. It is outrageous that we're building. Yeah again Things that are basically were spending money on ambulance of the bottom of the cliff and we're not building the fence and our governments are losing credibility. Because they're doing stupid stuff cypher. Individuals don't wait till the government cancelled things. Just stay home stay home. Bobby should be canceling things because we will pay the price of it. Fourteen days to two to three weeks from now. It's already spreading throughout the community. We're already getting community transmission. Were already getting people who have got no obvious contact with people who've been overseas starting to get it and what's happening now in terms of spread you will not see for another two weeks so this is serious stuff and now's the time to stop mass gatherings in all our countries and look what's the worst thing that can happen. The shock jocks in six weeks. Say well nothing happened is the best case scenario at great news. Nothing happened so the whole point of credit cost is answering as many of your questions as we can. You can send them in by going to. Abc Dot net slash corona virus. Let's start with Tom. Hanks he and his wife have tested positive. The Card Nineteen He. Where did he get coronavirus from? Well I think that's an open question and I don't know enough about the Tom Hanks. Case he's been here for a while filming. Apparently but I think he's also going back to the United States I think given the prevalence of covered nineteen in Queensland on the Gold Coast. It's more likely if he has been he hasn't been back to. America is caught it in California and brought it back here But it's still possible. He's caught it here because it is spreading in Australia and we have had important cases into the Gold Coast. Who knows yet? He's probably going to be okay. I'm not sure what ag he is but he's pretty fit the. I'm not sure but people on the set because they're no they're no context. You'RE GONNA have to do with isolated famine. I googled it before he sixty three sixty three child and the child so the World Health Organization's now calling a pandemic. They've kind of come out on that. Does that change anything for us? No it's just a name. It doesn't change anything for anybody. We called it out a couple of weeks ago and it's been a pandemic for quite some time and who was late to the party as they often are. Let's talk about common respiratory illnesses? Because this is something that we hear. It makes people at higher risk of complications. What about something like Asmaa? Well as smart if you get a lung infection chest infection you've got asthma. Asthma can make things worse but in other words the lung infection can bring on a bad asthma attack and your and your your compromise because of the asthma and therefore if you've got asthma and it's purely treated and you know it's pretty treated if you're sucking on Veselin or the blue puffer so beautiful too much you know two or three times a day if you're using your blue puffer that suggests that you're not under control if you're waking up during the night. Coughing wake up in the morning coughing. You go for a run and you coffin you. We's those that's unacceptable. You really want to get your aspirin to good shape. And that means you go to go on a preventative and one of these inhaled steroids to get your lungs into the best shape possible. So should you get covered? Nineteen you not going to get an asthma attack on top. Does asthma make you more? Susceptible to covered. Nineteen or to the SARS cultivars. I don't think anybody knows it's unlikely it's more of the nineteen is going.

asthma Tom Hanks Grand Prix United States Gold Coast New South Wales INS Dr Norman Swan Victoria Italy aspirin Canada prime minister World Health Organization Regional Victoria sharks Cornell Bobby America California
"regional victoria" Discussed on The Signal

The Signal

05:15 min | 1 year ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on The Signal

"This is an ABC podcast. They were twenty three hospitals in Victoria right now locked out of their computer systems appointments have been cancelled we've been delayed and two weeks on it still not sorted. I'm Stephen Stockwell Dimanche Lovelock's and on the signal what happens when not just a hospital but sorrenstam notes have come a long way since the days when they were made from magazine letters the the Halcyon days of ransom right because now it's all give us bitcoin old late everything on your computer system also known as ransomware which is a specific kind of virus designed to hold you hostage basically so lately a string of ransomware attacks on hospitals in regional Victoria of all places some of which are still locked out of this systems and even though they might seem weird target it's a really deliberate strategy and one that's already been extensively pioneered in the US yes oh since the start of this year more than fifty cities and towns in the nights have been held hostage by ransomware attacks which walking governments police stations hospitals even schools so we wanted to know what does attacks really look like I leave our first sign from the newsroom perspective was when the Baltimore Department of Public Works posted a tweet saying that e mail service was down and that really alerted us into thinking that there was something that wasn't working within the government as a whole so this is Christine Song she's a journalist at the Baltimore Sun who was at work win they realized that something was wrong they think there was another message that said that its customer phone lines also were not working and then we checked a website for paying water bills which quite a standard thing for people to do and that was also out of order so then that really made us think if these basic things aren't working maybe there are other things within the city government that are not working either so it's just like these dorning realize ation is he more and more and more things and go oh my goodness this is actually system-wide yeah of course so the story actually that we posted on line started with saying okay some email services are down and then other people kept saying to us well no actually the phones were down to these these are also down and we were checking and so on that story was just continuously updated throughout the entire day and by the end of it it was like okay this was ransomware attack on the Baltimore City computer network it wasn't like everything had ground to a halt a lot of the sort of outside activities that people were doing like out of the Office for example you know police people patrol playing or things like that I mean that was still definitely happening but things that were very noticeable or simply trying to get a hold of government officials via email you know that just didn't work anymore right calling people at everyone has a call cell phones instead of US phones but even like you know as a person living in Baltimore right getting your water bill that didn't happen until August really for people who were trying to sell houses the real estate system for a while had also ground to a halt so definitely Li like there were tangible things that could be identified as a result of ransomware so it's just disruption but they were able to carry on so they asked in France some clutter for a payment in bitcoin which I believe at the time of mounted to I want to say about seventy six thousand dollars for the data back so right so the mayor immediately said that the city would not pay the ransom and I think later he actually backtracked and said something like I would consider it but in the end they didn't pay the ransom and just restored access based on the backup system which is different from many other cities who maybe smaller cities who have paid.

Stephen Stockwell Dimanche Lov ABC Victoria seventy six thousand dollars two weeks
"regional victoria" Discussed on The Science Show

The Science Show

03:06 min | 2 years ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on The Science Show

"I said i don't wanna be choosing them based on what i think might be on our rather. You just served up for people to me and i had a good clear i look at them and made up my mind on the spot which was going to go. I think it's better that way. It's it's always exciting. I just look across four subjects. I want to know more about and four people hussein fascinating so it's always very exciting to start the show sure but you don't warn them in advance that you're gonna be horrid. All they've seen the show. I guess they just know that it's going to happen brought find that if you push people in that direction you get more out of them. I think that when people are pleasant to kind of get boring answers when you give them a bit of a poke the most amazing things come out of the f. Have you ever had anyone more kind of hard chat well. No one's ever walked out because i counted out the info but with the quiz i do do remember. It was very early on there was a woman who's expert subject was weathering huts and she had gotten a few answers wrong. Tom and i think she was kind of upset because she wanted to do well. She lived in san bruno which is in regional victoria and i live in regional victoria bit further out in a town called romsey and every time i was mentioning sunbury i think calling it scullery. That's a local joke. Everyone calls it scam breath and so anyway at the end. When i was telling you she had delayed the show i offered a relief time i said would you like lift and she screwed up a face and said note. I saw it turns down. A t._v. Has offers you lift hiram. It'd be at least in trait eight fifty seven very miffed but what about your private life in romsey small town your three meters tall place nice <hes>. Can you go shopping without being mobbed now. Let's everyone's used to it. You don't go together to end the shops twice and everyone gets over it so i've been living there for about ten years. I think everyone was staring at me when i woke there. Now people like are there. Is there over it. It's kinda boring. I mean i went to the bakery the other they're upset. I didn't bring the gold logie with me but take it again next time i go tomorrow when i get the take it down and everyone can give it a fondle tom. It's the gold henry all the goal henry of course finally again to go back to science well. The problem is it doesn't pay as well as what i'm doing given. I've missed out on twenty s experience. I think i might be had to hire too expensive too high because most scientists don't go back to math tutoring. I could do that tom. Thank you very much indeed. It's one of my favorite programs and we watch it every time we can't and record it and watch twice twice. Thank you very much the star of hard quiz. Tom gleeson graduate in maths and physics and proud holder of this year's gold henry next week and the sign show albert einstein and the century of gravity space art and a new way to feed the willed enhanced photosynthesis from the a. and you and camera production by david fisher and russell stapleton. I'm robin williams the <music> <music>..

Tom gleeson romsey hussein albert einstein robin williams san bruno sunbury russell stapleton david fisher three meters ten years
"regional victoria" Discussed on Deadly Discussions

Deadly Discussions

09:45 min | 2 years ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on Deadly Discussions

"Like, look I didn't fulfill my sporting ambitions are on just gonna work at Coldwell can live in my town. You know, it's like there's so much more, but unity, if your average person in Australia, you being cold to manage the land, you know, that's why we will hear those thousands of years itsel calling to look off the country. So there's always going to be a for you to stand up and take your place. And and you know, but that goes back to I think what use by about, as sometimes hot leave country. You've done it. Geniza Donat, and I've done, but we'll eventually end up back there. But we've got it. We've got to gather all these information all the skills knowledge is together to go back down. Better community and without doing that, that flow because you represent your community sign on mcken I'm never you always connecting back to their, but I think a lot of mob, and sometimes moving community, pull you back in just come work come wet for the cow up and stuff. And especially a lot of regional Victoria, working a lot of recruitment Melvin the funches of fellas original Victorian, these young combination and I sort of staff about when I do come at and I do a great job. Like, I, I'm glad I did this. But, you know that GOP to ship every couple of weekends like. It's back. They've got money that can take people out by the whole sort of that. First step of letting go, it is. And that's the whole of that separation. So the off because we are a big big country. Sometimes you got to move, but the flow in effect. And I've seen it from people that are faint successful is, is being phenomenal. Yeah. And I think I keep talking to that kid away chamber of what I'm saying, we need a Melvin Redford for us to all be together. And so people can come from, you know, juror and either they can stay they've got a month accommodation. Help try to find some work will start the business up and running in because this is the best place for. Hey, hey. Hey ski because he can go down to pretty much any government department in the vicinity in the city there and, and do business with them. We're I'm pretty quickly. So I'll go into you've actually started a business. Yes. Never thought I would. And I never thought when you said, it's the first time I thought you said far strain and I said, what are you doing here, working if you own a far straight? But I was wrong. It's actually Florus. Yes. Flora. Come about a we sort of had the idea about a year and a half ago when my ex boss, who's on the Victorian. Average economic bode said look this florist in your, your wife's just become a floor, drain the floor Sobat threes. Took it up. Did the whole university thing wasn't for her went into choas? In a month in doing a floor to coast teacher said, I'm sorry. But have you done this before his your way, head of renounced? But she was an artist matching and stuff. And she'd love passion, and flowers, yen gardening from mother and grandma saw she done that, for awhile while slowly picking up hoagies, and she's done a number of weddings, working a couple of different florist. And I sorta suggested look you know what we partner often being an aboriginal which stood florist, and she said, I said, from what person's sex shoot didn't it didn't think comfortable with how from the perspective of I'm taking from community. I'm taking an opportunity from south and I said, look, no there's no one else in the game. And that PA but there's no on that a looking to do what we wanna do is. And is that, you know that flowing affect ones where I don't talk about that in a minute, but she sort of didn't comfortable with it. But once we sort of went through the process and started getting a whole business established getting logo and name ought to get my beverage analogy of sort of essentially a. Real black fella. Thank you. But it was that whole process of, of getting that done and once we're stablest now. Jira. Havi from Kevin. Yeah. And then a gummy made up. She is the first one to sort of said you getting it done. I'm going to pecul- you to do down next. Ten made ups you some money and we said, Akai, we've got to do it. So we've been doing those made ups in the flow on effect from from her getting exposed. There has been huge. We've had a number of changes to do stuff are. And a couple of other organizations. But the Florida factory did our biggest ones tonight, it's been urine boy, so we did the, the black Mark there, which was great. We sold out. We didn't know we sort of said, and how much we willing to lose in flowers and we, we sell it out. And so we have the cost and we did, I think five or six different events. Fahim a-hole. They did blackout there with us, public spices may help create some spices was as the flow in effect for us to grow as a business with slowly getting there. We don't want to a bigger contracts. But I think for us what would love to do that on the track months, where sustainable businesses is give back to community, and my wife and YoM. I've got a background in use work, and my wife wanted to really do therapy, or do some sort of social work, but she's too much of a sponge. Yeah. Yeah. She was she would take things home and mal on them. But we would really love to do things like flower Cran workshops all the time making workshop, so average women and crosses because flowers Sarkar being, and I think. Go back to her again. We've got a really good, she's going really tad line flowers of the best part of everything that best parts of hallows are the best parts of goodbyes of the best parts of surprises. So using that connection when you work with files it's calming connection to land for fabric people's huge. So doing that sort of workshops from women in crosses should we would love to do if we can do it forward option months, where it gets sign of a way fellows for communities when the half you knows we can turn to Rafe affray actually have some real instead of some fight on stick with a lot of night of. Yes. Taught into industry. We're sort of done a lot of research. They're on. There are a lot of ninety flowers. We'll call them cut flowers. So one Jim Burke, is this that many there are sociable, especially Victoria from what I know of one flower grow in Horsham wine. And there was a. Yes, I, there was a nursery. I was one, but the cop flowers Lincoln. Yeah. Cut flowers on as much that Iran, but you cheese. You've got your gum, and that sort of stuff. So we are doing a lot of ninety bouquets and they lost, which a lot of people got two months ago, the native plants. My wife always puts them in a fierce. Now. They interests like the smell like, you know, it wasn't a single. I never had flowers in my house. A single guy was sharing go is would no one had flowers that I'm married and she would bring flowers cuts from the God and just put them inside. And you just like, yeah, no. It doesn't it's going to be for a week and a half or whatever. But it does something to the atmosphere. Then you saw researching like all the ROY Moore is a smells and what the effects doesn't chemical which is incredible. So we're pretty much out of time. So let's finish out with where Ye five to ten years, where am I time Floris how you all over strata? Well, we would love to credit industry of aboriginal florist, if we get to a sustainable point, where we take on trying as an apprentice. That's my background love that all we get another person that's competing against us. Great. We've started in the industry love to get that pop. But I think Mark pashas laws with with help them back to commune Dodd love. Oh I had a passion for sport. I've always had a passion for. Authentification of, of mob and supporting them I think there's a huge gap in the market. And I know the indigenous I fell plays association had dizzy, der kit and not MLB there. I looking at that post career for fellows, but also, I think a perfect example is when Gary, but was piling up in Gold Coast, every play Danny Mel when he got sign an extra couple of days to say family when follows applying down, Melvin from omland from wwl that sort of stuff when I got a w I dare a nap, why don't they get a couple of days with family connection to, to comeback community, huge. We lost. Gripe follows Liam Jarrah because he's you know he was twenty three twenty four and he was already now. Dern ease mobbing in Alice, they sort of things I don't think they realized the kinship system. Saw an IRA fell. We've got usually ex pliers at clubs. They're not Skype. But I think having south from that outside perspective as well as huge I don't know if I wanna be a Playa manager or a talent manager, but I think that's why I'm passionate. And then but I think. Down the track. I'm open. I'm the type of person that says he'd like you say you need to speak by flying, which is a fun talking into some a little fell boys of dinner, whenever catch up with them. Some of them it's about well life off the football. And I'll just guy where for the club, but then some of the messiah heard about Disney business at about the spice to meet a Mario Johnson punishing connect, you sort of walking around gone on. I want to invest in something about I've done. Well, I said, well, you got really fully passionate. You don't just go that looks like a good idea. So I'll do it. Because like with you'll, you'll wife like you know, they just thought she's been doing hunting for years, because there's passion there's going to be connection there for some not just because it's an opportunity and, yes, I like what you're saying. It's it makes perfect sense. Well, let's wrap it up there. Thank you so much. That's a longest podcast though, I didn't expect this would happen when you having fun. That's right. Yeah. I was like, ROY, he's a pretty quiet. But now. That's been false much. Thanks for coming all night. We'll look forward to get you on the future and catch up with how the forestry businesses going public service, if you still is. That's right. Raji chat. So awesome. Thanks. Thanks..

Melvin Redford Victoria ROY Moore Coldwell Geniza Donat GOP Australia Akai partner MLB flower Cran PA Raji Lincoln Kevin Fahim Rafe Disney Florida Liam Jarrah
"regional victoria" Discussed on Building A Unicorn

Building A Unicorn

03:09 min | 2 years ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on Building A Unicorn

"I'm Christopher Lawson. And this is building a unicorn a show exploring what it takes to ten an idea into a globally recognized company. When you think about everything that goes into making a big blockbuster movie. You obviously have the director the actors Ola crew. And then you have the lighting the sets and the cameras, and once you get everything on film. You wanna make it look and sound good. And that's why you might turn to black magic design black. Magic design is company known throughout the TV and movie industries for creating some incredible equipment and software which cost just a fraction of the competition. And they products used in lodge amount of Oscar nominated films with five of the eight films that were nominated for best picture in twenty nineteen using some black magic design products. And what's fascinating about this story is black. Magic design is an astrologer company. Grant, petty the CEO and founder of black magic decided that he didn't wanna go. The way of the startups by building a business that just packed up and moved to Silicon Valley or to Hollywood he wanted to build an array for creativity in Melbourne and that away says now brings in three hundred million strategy dollars a year in revenue. Grant grew up in regional Victoria in a small town cold in America, which is around thirty minutes. Drive north of the regional center of Shepperton and in his early life. His family was not that well off he lived in housing commission Himes provided by the government and his mom was on a pension but grant credit set lifestyle forgiving him the drive to do his own thing. When you live in the house commission area of a country town, essentially govern housing, that's that was a cluster of government housing in that town, and you out of the lowest wrong now, what was interesting about the country as it crushes you or doesn't I think everybody knows that there's a lot of drug problems in country towns. I never feeling the reason it wasn't crushed is. Because always interestingly trucks. So it didn't notice the hierarchy that was around me. I should have nine that. I was at the bottom rung of dominance hierarchy, essentially, if you've probably time for it. I think I should have known that. I was nothing, and I was supposed to be nothing. I should've just been a library or whatever it was supposed to be. But I just didn't know that because I was interested in creding things. So as you know, it's doing trucks was there in the back room. So but the on pulling things apart and also become interested in eletronic oils. Have apparently when I was little total I got lost. And I had a lot socket and a screwdriver my hands, and my mom was telling everyone he's got a lot soccer and a screwdriver Medeva's supposed to be looking after me and he didn't do enough job. And I wanted off and finding may not still alive. Paul lot socket screw screwed. I'm used to secondhand stores to buy the clothes, and I used to strike for that the shelf that had like egged betas and lots which is and things like tonic shops in the country town right now the school had a couple of apple two computers. So what did intend to do? You. Do you classes in recession lunchtime you'd rushing and formulas computers jump.

Grant Christopher Lawson Shepperton director Oscar Silicon Valley apple soccer Melbourne Himes Medeva Paul Victoria America Hollywood CEO founder thirty minutes
"regional victoria" Discussed on The Science Show

The Science Show

02:30 min | 3 years ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on The Science Show

"And finally back to Eureka prize winner from last week, Ellen Duffy from Swinburne who won for the promotion of science. His work is on several fronts, starting with wimps and sabre. Let's start with sabre. What is saber and where is it? Saber is in regional Victoria at the bottom of an active gold mine. This is just over kilometer underground and there in the darkness, we are excavating the underground physics laboratory. This is facing. We have a detector that will be sitting, hopefully, completely isolated completely in the dark undisturbed by any radiation from space protected climate underground, and they're in the dark. A very occasional ghost will strike it and the detectable light up. That's the theory and what is the ghost made off it? You have suspicions yet? Yes, we have a very targeted program, so this is a sodium iodide. Crystal. That's essentially looks like a salt. Crystal, very pure. It's created by colleagues in Princeton, and that is very sensitive to dark matter. That's about one hundred times the mass of a proton. We call these wimps weakly interacting massive particles and that is by far and away the most compelling candidate for dark matter this mysterious stuff that makes up five times more of the universe and everything we can see put together. And yet, to be honest, there are other candidates, and in fact. Last kind, the range of candidates stretches ten to the thirty so thirty or mentioned in mass. So we're confident we're tackling a very interesting candidate with a wimp, but there are a lot of others to go for two. Well, the neutrinos erupted not totally long ago with another discovery. I you partly neutrino fan in that regard for Documenta. Well, I think it's an incredible discovery. The fact that they've been able to make these neutrinos just so easily detectable gives us confidence and hope that we can do the same for dark matter. And in fact, if neutrinos way, just a little bit more, they'd be a great candidate to be the dark matter. But that level of scientific inquiry and precision is humbling just to put in context. We are constantly being bombarded by particles from space neutrinos dark matter. We believe that the dark matter wind, which is to say our motion through the dark matter of the galaxy holds our galaxy together gravitation. He's. Taking will result in hundreds.

Saber Ellen Duffy Swinburne Princeton Victoria
"regional victoria" Discussed on Future Tense

Future Tense

02:09 min | 4 years ago

"regional victoria" Discussed on Future Tense

"That was professor richard a cast from the university of melbourne alan fidelity of you who enjoy a glass of wine with spaghetti bowen is is mixed news about the effects of climate change on winemaking it's causing problems winemakers on the mainland in areas like the hunter valley as well as regional victoria but it's making colder climates led tasmania far more desirable for great growing it also increasing the alcohol content of wine around one percent if he decade that's great if you want to get smashed on half a bottle of shara's but it's terrible for the taste and the quality now i ridiculously ran on my family's trees on my grandmothers recipe spaghetti bowen is has ensured through recessions and world wars it survived all kinds of social and economic change all of it wonderful it taste it's not gonna get drunk i'm confident my daughter will be making addition 40s time but probably a different version to the one that i grew up with so sweet potato with some wiggly carrots lay so different may than i use now and if our weight grow is to have any chance of survival australianmade pastor me perhaps these adaptations not a bad thing with the help of our based academic researchers found is already changing with climate change the rest of us next changed to deny there thursday that the netherlands in many many rebecca huntley in her daughter the degrade australian favorite spaghetti below nice as she mentioned earlier rebecca has also spoken to winemakers and scientists about a future of venal and if that peaks your interest you'll find an excellent article on the future tense homepage.

professor alan fidelity climate change hunter valley victoria tasmania shara university of melbourne rebecca huntley one percent