20 Episode results for "Regine"

Introductory Note: The Story of the Volsungs and Niblungs

Harvard Classics

06:40 min | 4 months ago

Introductory Note: The Story of the Volsungs and Niblungs

"Introductory note in offering to the reader this translation of the most complete in dramatic form of the great epoch of the north we lay no claim to special critical insight nor do care to deal at all with vexed questions but are content to abide by existing authorities doing our utmost to make our rendering close inaccurate and if it might be so at the same time not over prosaic it is to the lover of poetry in nature rather than to the student that we appeal to enjoy in wonder at this great work now for the first time strange to say translated into english. This must be our excuse for speaking here as briefly as maybe a things that will seem to the student over well known to be worth mentioning but which may give some ease to the general reader. Who comes across our buck. The pros of the vol- saga saga was composed probably sometime in the twelfth century from floating traditions. No doubt from songs which now lost were then known at least in fragments to the saga moment and finally from songs which written down about his time are still existing. The greater part of these last the reader will find in this book some inserted amongst the pros taxed by the original storyteller and some by the present translators and the remainder in the latter part of the book put together as nearly as may be in the order of the story and forming a metrical version of the greater portion of it. These songs from the elder eto. We will now briefly. Compare with the pros of the vol- sung story promising that these are the only metrical sources existing of those from which the saga and told his tail. Except for the short snatch on page two hundred seventy one of our translation. Nothing is now left of these till we come to the episode of helgi huntings bain cigarettes half brother their two songs left relating to this from which the pros is put together to a certain extent they cover the same ground but the latter half of the second as wisely as we think left untouched by the saga men as its interest is of itself too great not to encumber the progress of the main story for the sake of it's wonderful beauty however we could not refrain from rendering it and it will be found i among the metrical translations that formed the second part of his book of the next part of the saga the deaths of sin john lee and segment and the journey of queen georgia's to the court of king out. There is no trace left of any metrical origin. But we meet the eta once more where. Regine tells the tale of his kin to cigarette and where seger defeats in slaves. The sons of hunting this way is known as the lay of regine. The short chapter sixteen is abbreviated from a long poem called the prophecy of gripper. The gril for of the saga where the whole story to come as told with some detail in which certainly if drawn out at length into the pros would have forced all the interest of the tail in the slaying of the dragon to saga adheres. Very closely to the lay of fastener for the insertion of the song of the birds to sigrid the present translators are responsible. Then comes the waking of brin hill and her wise reads to sigrid taken from the lay of cigarette reefa the greater part of which in its metrical form is inserted by the sagamore into his pros but the stanzas relating brin hill's awaking we have inserted into the text the latter part omitted in the pros. We have translated for the second part of our book of cigarette. Hallandale of good runs dream the magic potion of grim hold the wedding of cigarette. Consequent on that portion of the willing of brin hill for governor per marriage to him of the coral of the queen's the brooding grief in wrath of brin hill and the interview of cigarette with her of all this the most dramatic and best considered part of the tail. There is now no more left that retains its metrical form than the few snatches preserved by the saga men though. Many of the incidents are alluded to in other poems. Chapter thirty is met by the poem called the short lay of siegert which fragmentary apparently at the beginning gives us something of brin hill's awakening wrath in jealousy the slaying of cigarette and the death of brin hild herself this poem we have translated entire fragments of the lay of brin hild or what is left of a poem partly covering the same ground as last but giving a different account of cigarettes slain. It is very incomplete that the sonnen has drawn some incidents from the will find it translated in our second part but before the death of the heroin we have inserted entire into the text as chapter thirty one. The first lady of good run the most lyrical the most complete and the most beautiful of all the poems upon that any age or language might count among its most precious possessions from this point to the end of the saga. It keeps closely to the songs of eta in chapter thirty two. The sagamore has rendered into pros. The ancient lay of good run except for the beginning which again another account of the death of siegert. This way also we have translated. The grand poem called the hell. Right of brin. Hill is not represented directly by anything in the pros except that the saga men has supplied from it. A link or to wanting in the lay of sigrid reefa it will be found. Translated in our second part the betrayal slaughter of the kings or nib lungs and the fearful end of atlee and his sons in court are recounted in to laze called. The laser of the longest of these the greenland lay of atlee is followed closely by the saga moment. The shorter one. We have translated the end of good run of her daughter by cigarette and of her sons by her last husband. Jona ker treated of in the last. Four chapters of the saga are very grandly. Poetically given in the song's called the wedding of good run and the lay of handier which are also among our translations. These are all the songs of the eta which the saga has dealt with but one other the lament of audran we have translated on account of its intrinsic merit as to the literary quality of this work we might say much but we think we may well trust the reader of poetic insight to break through whatever entanglement of strange manners or unused element. May at first trouble him and to meet the nature and beauty with which it is phil. We cannot doubt that such a reader will be intensely touched by finding amidst all its wildness and remoteness such as startling realism. Such sub tilleke such close sympathy with all the passions. That may move himself today in conclusion. We must again say how strange it seems to us that this vols tail which is in fact. An unverified poem should never before have been translated into english for. This is the great story of the north. Which should be to all our race. What the tale of troy was to the greeks to all race. I and afterwards when the change of the world has made our race nothing more than a name of what has been a story to then. Should it be to those that come after us. No less than the tale of troy has been to us.

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Restoration in Industry 4.0.

Salvador Marin

07:13 min | 1 year ago

Restoration in Industry 4.0.

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Session 133: Communicating With Your Teen Daughter

Therapy for Black Girls

40:21 min | 1 year ago

Session 133: Communicating With Your Teen Daughter

"Welcome to the therapy for black girls. podcast a weekly conversation about mental health personal development and all the small decisions we can make to become the best possible versions of ourselves. I'm your host Dr Joy. Hardin Bradford a licensed psychologist in Atlanta Georgia for more information or to find a therapist in your area visit our website at therapy for girls dot com. While I hope you love listening into and learning from the podcast it is not meant to be a substitute for relationship with a licensed mental health professional. Thanks so much for joining me for session. One thirty three of the therapy for black girls. PODCAST podcast today. We're chatting all about how to keep the lines of communication open between you and your teen daughter for this conversation. I was joined by Gretchen. Jane Campbell Gretchen is an original Jersey girl currently residing in North Carolina. She's a licensed professional counselor with over nineteen years of experience. Even though she doesn't like it she loves working with tween and teen girls and their MOMS and she has a newfound passion for Servicing Young Gen Z.. And Millennial Women Gretchen also recently authored. Her first book. I'm the mom of teen girl. Help Gretchen and I chatted about some of the common concerns. She hears working with teens in their MOMS moms can take care of themselves while parenting their teen daughter. How support your daughter in making healthy decisions about things like friends and social media? And of course she shared all of her favorite resources for MOMS of teens. If if you hear something while listening they're really resonates with you. Please share with us on social media using the HASHTAG. TB In session. Here's our conversation. Jim Thank you so much for joining us today. Regine thank you for having me Dr Joy. I'm very excited to have you here. So you are fresh off. The heels of your premier book called Komo mom over Teen Girl Hill and I and I'm sure that there are lots of MOMS of teas listening. Who definitely need your help? So I'm glad you could join us today. Great so Gretchen. Tell me what are some of the common concerns that MOMS of teens into are coming into your office with. That is a great question. So I've been working with this population for a really long time and a Lotta. The same questions constantly came up most of them were around my peer relationships. Just girls being girls. School teacher stress. A lot of privacy and social media is coming up now but also emotional health dating relationships puberty and just the mother daughter relationship period and how they communicate. Yeah and we have very active community around the podcast and so we definitely get lots of questions about you. Know How do I help my team do. X Lions E. R.. I'm struggling with her related to this and so I'm glad that we have you here to talk about some of those dairy concerns that you just listed Yeah Glaspie Service so what us some of the primary developmental issues. That kind of are coming up in this age. That really can sometimes make precarious for mom in daughter. Yes yea so. I think some of the primary developmental issues. That are coming up during this age is just. There's a lot of developmental hormonal changes that are happening between the tween and teen years and some of the stuff is really just normal development. And you know I often have to act mom five. Do you remember when you were this agent. Some of the things that came up for you because most of the stuff really is the same. It's just heightened a little more in this day and age because evolution pushing this and kids have you all in so some of the same norms that our parents might have used some of the parenting skills that they met at us. They just don't work with the kids these days and so yeah. So the development of changes that are happening are just normal development through changes the relationship between the mother and daughter and that dynamic can be really trying and sometimes moms are going crazy trying to figure out. Why doesn't she talked to me why she always really and a lot That really is because of the developmental. Hormonal changes that are going on and the brain development And so I sometimes try to give this cycle but not too much approach jargon just because it can be overwhelming even for myself. And so I try to normalize some of the changes that they're experiencing and explain it to do the parents on a level that they can understand. So can you share some of that with US Gretchen. Like what are some of the cycle. Ed Pieces that you typically try to share with your clients. Yes so I typically weekly it in that show I try to share with the parent like think about all the changes that you experience as an adult right and this is with eight eight normal developing adult brain and so you might be trying to be a mom a boss a wise and also dealing with relationship issues right and think about how much you can manage without wanting to explode so now put your child in that situation -Tuation right and her brain is still developing in so brains are still developing up until the age of twenty five and so. That's the pitch of that. I'd like to give parents that your brain. It's still developing but there's all these rapid fires coming at them and so that's parents trust at school stress. That's social stress social media stress all these other additional attitudes that are happening with underdeveloped brain hen. You know reactive responses that they do being impulsive and posted decision making all those different things that appear is like. She's really driving me crazy while if because her brain is undeveloped uh-huh yeah and I think that that is the key right is to really try to hold both of those things being true that you have a teen with an underdeveloped developed a still developing brain but that you're also getting kind of triggered probably by a lot of the decisions she made me making. And how do you really work on like managing edging your own emotions in your own reactions that you can support her backley. Yeah so what are some of your tips for MOMS. Who are about how to kind of Minhaj their own reactions so that they can do a good job of supporting your team? So that's a great question because the number one spot that teen girls gave if me as far as why they don't share information with their mother is because they are concerned about their reaction how she's going to react and when I tell you like Acts Young girls this question dating back to early two thousand in my career up until this day and that is usually the number one response that that they're fearful of how their mom is going to respond typically because mom go when to fix it right and so the daughter comes to them with the question and mom immediately goes into. How do I fix it before she even gets the opportunity to really swain? What's going on so I to try to encourage moms to allow them to sometimes just to talk because at the end of the day? That's what the teen really wants. She really just wants to talk and sometimes sometimes she just wants you to listen and so it does take some willpower and holding yourself back in not responding immediately and just being mindful unfold that she's a team and that she wants to communicate with you. But how you respond to her. We'll definitely determine how often she comes back back to you to share whatever's going on in her life. Yes Oh really trying to stop some of that fix it tendency and you know the not yet to fix it and actually just listening. Which of course is a great tip when we even talking about relationships with other adults exactly? Yeah and so mom are able to do that really easy and but some really do struggle with it. I've even encourage moms to have like a no judgment zone. We are you ars thing that European allow your kids. Just talk about whatever and you're not gonNA judge meaning you just sit there and listen so sometimes if you specify a A significant time that we are going to have a no judgment zone talk you can go in being prepared that she might know. Hit You with something that you you really weren't expecting which has definitely happened Yeah and then you have the old up your end of the bargain of not. Yeah absolutely so I want to get back into the social media's happy because I do know that they're you know in some of the previous episodes we've had with other therapists who work with teens. This is definitely something that continues. Nt used to come up is helping your teen and tweens kind of navigate the social media space. So do you have particular policies that you like to work with your moms and teens with about like how they might be using social media. Depending on their age I do and so every parent that comes to my office these days they come in saying social media's and issue and they don't know how to handle it they don't know how to manage it and my question is always like well so how can you not know. So you're the parent you are purchasing the device. The kid is not paying the bill. Which means that you control it right right but most parents feel that they don't have any control over and I think because just our society today everyone is so addicted to their phone and so I think parents feel that they are obligated to allow their child to have cell phone morning noon and night and my responses? That's not healthy and there's tons sounds of research that says it's not healthy Dr joy every single week you may have something on the news about social media and he and how there needs to be some limits around it so often provide a contract or suggest the contract. There's tons of contract that you can find online. I've actually actually got a contract in my book. That parents can adapt to their family. Because I think each family is going to look completely different but having a kid. Being able to utilize utilizes cell phone from morning tonight number one is the ultimate. No now is that is going to be thorn in your side for everything. They should not a half unlimited use to itself and some parents will say well they actually need it for school and so that may be true they may need it for school however you can still will monitor that. When they come home there should be like a docking station? The kids should be able to do homework without a cell phone and they can usually if something is online they can use the laptop or computer right. I also encourage parents to put in rules around. Ethically like how you're going to use his phone being real mindful about what you share on social media the pictures that you share on social media because the parents can be held responsible for what kids are sharing via social media these days and so I think a lot of parents don't know that is that they can also be held accountable if their kid is using social media. Inappropriately there's tons of other ways that you can monitor kate. There's tons of different the APP now that parents can actually shut down social media thing. Katie P is one. There's Times that parents can actually put on their device and actually please shut off the Internet and so then the kid can't actually use. It might also encourage parents have family time that that means that no one is using social media. No one is using a cell phone during that time and I would imagine that some families are maybe hoping hoping to it may be struggling with like not even allowing the kids to have it at all right which I would imagine introduces another layer of maybe tension because the kid probably going to school with their friends and everybody else. It's Kinda using it but maybe you have decided that you really don't want your child to have excess of social media at all. So Oh how might you navigate that within their like social relationships. Yeah so there are some parents who have decided that they don't want their kids to have a cell phone and or just use social media period even on a laptop or a computer at home and so the kids are constantly asking and it's usually the tweens that are asking asking and the parents are like no like I think you know really not mature enough but all their friends are getting the device and so we talk about what are some healthy ways to you have a cell phone right and so how can you have a cell phone. Who's going to be on your contact list? What apps are you going to download and really having open communication from the start? Which is why I think any kid who had the cell phone should have a cell phone Contract from day one because it set the kid up to know that my parents is going to be monitoring me and it really allows the a parent and child to have open dialogue about appropriate use of the cellphone inappropriate use of social media. So you know I think twelve most parents are like eleven eleven twelve. They feel like oh like they might already have it. And so that's when we start talking about what are healthy ways that you can have access to the cell phone but not abuse the privilege privilege and not allow the cell phone to takeover. Yeah and like you mentioned early aggression. I think some of it also comes back to looking at your own use of the cellphone right to if your daughter daughter sees you on the phone and other time then of course I think that that reinforces the idea that this is kind of what we do and I want to be part of it too. Yeah definitely I've even had some kids. Say that their parents are on the cell phone all the time and so it's confusing to them on how the parent is trying to make when they're actually on their cellphone man and so in the contract that I have it in the book I actually encourage parents to implement family time with there is absolutely no electronic device at all all and so that's just specify for family to interact into engage in families. Really appreciate that. I think we've gotten away from that as a society of just sitting down now and having a family meal without having an a device attached to us without having the TV on use that time to interact and to communicate with each other which is great for it just building the relationships Yeah I like that idea so something else. I want to chat about Gretchen. It probably goes back to one of your earlier points about MOMS reacting. Well we have had a lot of questions come in about really struggling with their teens into means not being honest so lying being or leaving out the purposely just really really struggling with not being able to get the truth from their teams are swinging. So what are your thoughts about like how you might be able to handle that. If you have seen we who really feels like is having some trouble with the truth yet so you know surprisingly will not surprisingly but most the family that I've worked with we are the child is lying. It usually goes back to the relationship that they have with the parent and often. It's because the parents aren't communicating with the child and sometimes the child feels like they have to be dishonest about whatever the situation is whether or not it's the relationship or academic concerns is usually because there's not healthy communication on an ongoing basis and so I really try try to work with moms and daughters on establishing a good routine of checking in on a regular basis and that looked like a text from mom if we're going to a used phone text like hey how was your day or having a check in time when she comes home from school to check in to see higher day. was that anything anything come up. And it doesn't always have to be structured. I try to highlight pointing out specific times of the day. We're moms endures or likely spending time together together and so maybe that looks like a drive to and from school. Perhaps that looks like when mom is preparing dinner and door cleaning you those those down times to try to have open dialogue. I'm telling you once you have open dialogue with your daughter. She the the floodgates will open. And you won't be able to shut her up and I've had moms come back and say like the tip was really helpful because once I provided the space for her that she felt more comfortable with sharing things and then the dishonesty decreased because the kid feels like oh like Mama's really open. She's listening to me. She's not judging. And so therefore I I feel more comfortable with sharing things with her now. I think parents of today are definitely used to parenting the way our parents parents at which means I'm the parent. What I say goes which is fine like I get it but you gotta know that if you rule your house with an iron fist? That's there's sometimes you're going to get a push back from kids because kids just are different today and you really do have to step outside of the box and try some different parenting tools. Yeah I'm glad you mentioned immigration because I did want to talk more about that right like because you will often hear like these conversations and we Kinda like laugh and joke about it online or in our relationships in real your life about our moms. I'm not one of your little friends. Don't you know that. Kinda thing right and there has to be a really delicate balance their rates. So mom doesn't necessarily have to be your friend. Of course you're not herp ear but is there a way to parents instill have a relationship where she sees you as the authority in understands boundaries with that is not one where she does not want to talk to you. Because he's afraid of your your reaction. Yeah there definitely Italy is and again I think it goes back to having good communication setting healthy limits and boundaries because believe it or not kids kids want boundaries. They want rules. I've worked with kids who said win. Parents set limits and boundaries for them. They know that the parents hairs right. And and so when they don't set limits and boundaries if they don't follow through with the limit and boundaries they feel like the parent doesn't care because they aren't following through with what they said that they were because kids know when they're wrong and so setting healthy limits and boundaries having open communication and just checking in with your kid on a regular basis like some kids. Tell me their parents. Don't check in with them. They feel like the parents. Don't care right. I think we as adults are cut up in our own life and so sometimes times I think we think if my kid has a roof over their head food's eat clothes on their back like they're good. I don't need to worry about anything else. But there's lots what's going on today. Again with social media kids are being exposed to so much. It's impacting them in ways that you can't imagine Yeah so it sounds like and you've mentioned this several times Gretchen. The communication really is important so beyond the set time to check in trying to establish a no judgment zone for maybe at some point in your week where you can Kinda have these open conversations. Are there other tip. She would share for how to do a better job of setting up a good communication with your team yet. So I think just using downtime Having family time specify family time developmental milestone that young girls or reaching doing some coaching with them You know when young ladies start to be interested in relationships exploring that with them and being open to that the relationship might not look like the normal heterosexual relationship that think that parents are used to. Because I've also that was that as well but and being open to like your kid may be interested in things that you didn't expect them to be interested in right because I think when moms have daughters I they expect them to be mayors themselves and so I think you've got to take it off and put it on the shelf because your kid is not you knowing that their their own person respecting them for who they are the decisions that they make and just being open to parenting differently. I mean you can use some of the same parenting parenting techniques. I'm clearly not selling like don't do anything that your mother say. Because it's not a bit work because some of that stuff but being open to integrating some new parenting parenting techniques. Because your kids are different so another struggle that I think a lot of MOMS have with teens and tweens is their support system. So what do the appear relationships look like. Sometimes I'm you get into a situation where you're not really maybe fond of the other teams that your children are making friends with and so how. How do you manage that? How do you manage like allowing them to make their own decisions about relationship but also wanting them to kind of careful with something we may see going on that they may eighty nine C. so dom- by not judging far my book I'd I wrote up there when she shows you a picture of the person that she likes like? Hold your tongue because it might not be what you were expecting. But don't judge but acts you know probing questions then. Why is this person important to you? Why is this relationship important to you right? Does this person make you feel special. Or How's how's this friendship important to you. How the friendship positive for you acting questions where you can explore more about the dynamics other relationships that your your daughter is creating? Because they won't be thinking like Oh she's just trying to figure out like if the relationship is healthy they'll probably be thinking. Mom is just trying to be nosy but it really. Is You really trying to explore why. She's identifying specific people and why she calls them friends right. And and so. Because you you'll be able to get more information. Because if she says oh I like to hang out with them because you know we have similar music music interests so that might be one thing but what if she says something like. They're the cool kids in school. That smoke that's GONNA prove some different questions like well. What makes you who wants to hang out with them? Is it because of the cool kids or is it. Because they're smoking and let's talk about that and is that healthy. Okay in Gretchen the. US This is us. I do okay so you caught up caught up with the last episode this season like are you aware was happening again. Okay perfect so when you were talking and I hadn't even thought about this before our conversation when you were talking just about like how your cheese may be interested in people that you may not have expected did especially when we're thinking about not everybody's heterosexual so you can't expect an Eugene will be interested in a boy so to speak so. I think that they have done a really nice job Randall and What's his wife's name getting amid? Yes however getting better. He's one of my favorites random. Beth I feel like have done a really good job job in supporting tests. Who has come out as a lesbian on the show and you know a Matt expecting that? But of course wanting to be supportive supportive of her and then the conversation they have kinda head behind closed doors about how they're going to continue to support her in their journey. Yeah and so that is really really important. More in especially in this day and age. I can't tell you some of the parents who have contacted me with concerns about sexuality the damage that it does sometimes uh-huh right when parents are accepting of their kid. I can't tell you how much it impacts young ladies when they come in and say my parents don't accept me a- and who I'm attracted to or who I'm dating and they're already thinking about moving out and saying I know when I turned eighteen that I'm not going back and so I've had to have difficult conversations with parents like you realize that you're really doing damage to this relationship in that she's already ready thinking about leaving. And some parents can come around and try to become more aware and more accepting refer them to different support groups etcetera Iraq but some parents just really are not open and it does some real damage it really does APP think the more and more war that society becomes accepting of the LGBT community. Maybe the more parents will be open. I don't know it's IT'S A. It's a topic that comes up a lot year and it's coming up more and more and more. Yeah and and I do think it is really important to pay attention to especially especially when you look at the continuing numbers we give you know moving away from maybe sexual orientation gender presentation right in the high numbers of suicides. We see we with Trans Young people of Color specifically you know and so I think we have to do a better job as parents in talking about and being okay. Hey in supporting in celebrating our kids in whatever their life will look like really making sure we do the work that we have agreed what we thought our kids. We're going to be the and really celebrate exactly who they are yeah. I think that's what it is. I think every parent when they have kids they automatically assume that it's going to be a mini mini version of themselves. And the reality is that it's not that your kid like their own individual person until they are going to have different interests than then you did. They're gonNA like different music. They're gonNA dress differently. Their friends are going to look differently. And their sexual orientation into our identity might be different than what you expect it and you've got to be open and accepting of that or you're going to lose your kids because it's happening on a regular basis Yeah Yeah so Gretchen. Are there other parts of the book that you feel like. We definitely want to be sure that we cover you know like something that you kind of keep seeing in your office at your like. We definitely have to talk about this so I think school rolling teacher stress is a big one. I work with tons of parents who've said to me that their kid is struggling in school but they found out like at the you know maybe at the end of the year or when we report cards come out and I'm like what. How could you not have known they said well? I thought that the teacher would have contact. I'm like man. The teacher is teaching Amy Anywhere Between Ninety Two hundred twenty students per day. You've got one kid which means you've got one job to check or maybe you. We have multiple. However you don't have sixty check in with the teachers to see how your kids doing most schools? I know here in North Carolina. They have online boards where your parents can actually go in and look at their kids reports. 'cause see how they're doing try to encourage parents to stay on top of that reaching out to teachers features on a weekly biweekly or monthly basis. Depending on how much your kid is struggling. If you're struggling at all it also helps to are you know creates a network we are. You are in constant communication with the teachers that your child is interacting with on a regular basis unless the kid now that you're going to be checking in on them and so they'll stay on top of their work and not wait until the end of the school year trying to catch up. So that's one topic pick. That comes up a lot. I think because college and college prep is so huge. I think is what it comes up so often parents are overwhelmed. with what their kids need to be doing now and this could be as early as middle school. They're concerned about what their kids are doing. Now and how. It was going to impact them when they go to college. I'm just I allow you just to be a kid. They aren't even in high school and even when they're in high school freshman year parents are already already. Oh we need to be on top of things colleges are going to be looking at this year and that year and trying to get them involved in so many different activities. Where's where's the kids can't even be be kids anymore? There's not a lot of downtime. Because of the activities that parents have lined up for the kids whether or not. It's in school school outside of school just so that it looks good on the transcript for college. I'm glad you Gretchen. 'cause I completely forgot about that. Of course my little Lou. People are not college age is an arena quite yet but you read. I can imagine that that does introduce a new level of stress into the house once. We're talking about well college applications in which we're GONNA need to get you ready in that kind of thing and I do think that sometimes parents are typically driving the boat on that right. I mean sometimes kids are really in Ziegler but anything more often it is the parents kinda thinking about. Okay what are these next four years going to look like yeah pretty much and and I think some parents do a great job at having a good balance some parents out work with go overboard with wanting their kids to be in every single activity inside of school and outside of school. Oh and then they come to me and they're struggling with anxiety and I'm like well. This is why because they've got so many different responsibilities. There's no downtime. It's like if you're filling up all of their time with different things to do so that it will look good on their transcript which is not healthy because then the kid is struggling with anxiety. which is the other teeth? He's that we should probably discuss the emotional aspect and how that can be overlooked. Yeah so what else would you say about that in terms of like the emotions that the team may be having during during that time. Yeah so a lot of teams. These days are struggling with depression and anxiety. I would say about ninety nine percent of my team that I work with author struggling with anxiety. A lot of it is based around social stressors academic stress in parents stress right and so I think think that parents need to be mindful when their kids are coming to them and saying something is wrong. I feel like something is wrong. I can't tell you how how many kids have come to my office and said I've been telling my mom that I wanted to see a therapist for six months or year but they don't show up until after after there's a crisis after they've been assessed at the Er after they've been inpatient that's when they showed that the office and I think parents try to gloss sober sober overlook some of the emotional concerns because no one wants their kid to struggle and I get that like everybody wants their kids to have a normal healthy life and that's fine however there's a lot of stressors that your kids are under an so overlooking the emotional peas is not doing the mini justice. When when your kid verbalize is because it takes a lot for kids to come to a parent to say mom? I feel depressed or mom. I still really anxious. I feel like I need someone to talk to take it to that. And get them help. And don't prolong it because prolonging process could be really detrimental to their emotional health and wellbeing. Being I think it's also really important because I think sometimes what happens is that moms will kinda minimize what they feel like their teams are going through. Like oh it's just a heartbreaker. Oh her and her friend fell out. And so it's not a big deal but your kids table motions just like you and so if you can think about you know when you have been brokenhearted are you have struggled with a friend and going back to your earlier comment like you feel that deeply as will so. We shouldn't anticipate that our teams are not feeling those seeing on the same level as well. Yeah definitely and I tried to pink pink that pitcher for parents. Sometimes they get it joy and sometimes they don't but kids do do like they are experiencing their life in their own in their own way and sometimes. I think it's difficult for parents to really understand why they are struggling struggling so much when they have food to eat close on the back got a cell phone. They might have a car when you're providing all these tangible things thanks for them and they're still struggling emotionally like that's difficult for a lot of parents to grasp and understand because they kids these days now often have have more than what their parents did and their parents are wondering like why you struggling so much when you have all these things and that's because things can't prepare anxiety they. Can't you know repair depression if your kid is struggling there's another there's another layer that you're avoiding addressing thing because things don't address those yeah the other thing. That teens have access to much earlier than I think that we did. As younger people is access. That's the all of these mental health resources right so I think there's some information from the crisis text line that talks about like thirteen year olds being one of their highest level of users right and so they also have this information about mental health. How to check in with themselves and with anxiety and depression feels like where we probably did not have access or you know the language to really describe describe it as younger people? Yeah absolutely right. I mean a lot of teams that come to me. They're already using different. Act You know to to communicate with with other people about how they're feeling they're already using COM head space to try and stop the teams. These days are real savvy like they know how to research and get access to help and it's the parents that you just need to get on board with accepting that it is not a life sentence right. I think sometimes parents fill that if they start to see therapists and something is really wrong and this is like a death sentence. It's not it's not your you may need to talk to someone for a few sessions And you may discover that it's actually youth that needs to talk to someone for some sessions right because because I think a lot of times what we see acting out in our teens lives is really a function of like something going on with us as a parent. Yeah definitely again. The Dynamic Ama between parents and kids these days with all the stressors that kids are under and parents are under two and the parents own emotional. She no trauma that made me. They haven't dealt with and maybe their relationship with their parents because that shows up. It's well mom's parenting the way. Their mother parents them and indoor not parenting because of some of the emotional trauma that they themselves experienced and I often have encouraged my mom's to seek counselling themselves because ause the way their parenting is damaging their relationship with their child So what are some of your kind of final thoughts Gretchen for any moms. Who might be listening listening about how they can do? A better job of taking care of their cells so that they can do a better job of taking care of the teens. Yes so I think connecting connecting with other MOMS who have tweens and teens. Because you're all experiencing the same thing MOMS often often still alone. At least that's what most of the moms have said to me is that they often feel alone. And can't imagine that anybody else's cruise spiriting some of the same things they are but connecting with other moms because his likely that they are going through some of those same hurdles. Making sure that you're taking care of yourself and giving yourself a break freak you know just checking in with your extended support system when you need it and also checking in with your kid to say. Hey Hey like am I doing a good job. Is there something that you feel like mom could be doing differently. That could be helpful. I've encouraged parents to do that. You'd be surprised. I by the responses that the kids have these MOMS like some kids say like I love you Mama always still supported and some kids will say you're supportive but sometimes got it like you judged me. Goes the nugget that you need to help improve the relationship with your kid because in that moment the kids feels like they can be Boehner they can share with you. Love the Grishin. Thank you so what are some of your favorite resources. That miles might wanNA check out tons of instagram pages. ooh that I think are helpful. Okay so there's parents. There's parents parenting MAG at parenting. Gosh what else. MOM MOM MAG stoppage. You caught me off. I can send them to and Anakin Ed and I will there's tons of parenting resources that you can that Google Online and fine with tons of parenting advice and tons of parenting support groups online. There's some really funny ones on I.. G. where it's like mom a teenage girls and they always making jokes and light of being a mom. WHO's parenting teen girl? Thank God you and where can we find you online Gretchen. Where can we find information about your practice? The book in any social media handles. Because you WANNA share. Yeah so I am at grow encourage empower dot com. You can find me on. I G at grow encourage encourage in power dot com as well as twitter and facebook. So edgy twitter and facebook are all grow encouraged Eric Empower yes. Yes perfect emanate can find information about the book as well yes. They can find information about the book on Instagram. The book is also on Amazon on as well as Barnes and noble that e book and the Paperback Perfect while we will include in the show notes. So don't worry if you're listening you'll have all of those was restored at your fingertips. Thank you so much for joining us. Today Gretchen. I appreciated thank you so much. This is awesome beings. I'm so glad Gretchen was able to share her expertise with us today. To find out more information about her and her practice archer grab a copy of her book. Check out the show notes. Not at therapy for black girls dot com slash session. One thirty three and please remember to share this episode with two parents of teen girls in your circle and don't forget to share your takeaways takeaways with us either on twitter are in your I g stories using the Hashtag. T- BG in session. If you're searching for a therapist in your area be sure short. Check out our therapist directory at therapy for Black Girls Dot com slash directory. 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Jurnee Smollett

Questlove Supreme

1:34:15 hr | 10 months ago

Jurnee Smollett

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Anyway let me let me do. An intro it would be disrespectful. Back. here we got. Hot. Casting. All Right Ladies and gentlemen our guest today has the distinct honor. Of being. Okay rounded off fourteen years my junior yet. I think she is clocked in more years inner. Than Mine. Basically means that she's literally been acting since she came out the womb. Her. First GIG was when she was ten months old so That that should put it in perspective anyway full disclosure we are close friends. So does my preface way of saying that I'm lazy show host an introducer, but I'm also a fan. So you know it's important to note. That journey small. It is not anyone's overnight success She has the receipts to prove it. I'M GONNA go off the top. Of My favorite of course, there's full House on our own. Hanging with Mr Cooper Cosby the CBS version O. Movies Catch Eve's by lights Friday night lights bro Bounce. The great debaters True Blood Parenthood Birds Apprai-. Let me cut to the Damn Chase I. It's as Letty Lewis. Capriccio asked him on the show. Yes I believe it's letty. LETI? Lewis. An instant African I won't. I won't say I don't know the call is ever futurist or in A. Classic. Story. So I will say that this is an instant American horror. African. Futures Classic lovecraft country. There our guest has somehow managed to turn somehow into a breakout role. While having a thirty year. Career under her belt. How's that for winging it? She was. John. Please welcome actress singer. Activists Mother Baseball Bat Swinger. Flavor, flav under study and might chef journey small for the second time of course loves supreme. Anyway I don't journal. I know you'd rather be doing anything but The the groundwork of of of doing interviews, I'll try to. Make. This. Painless. As possible. How how's your day to day I'm just GonNa this is GonNa be House he dated. I mean it was okay. I've been sitting here all day long doing interviews and zooms and things of that nature. So you know. Happy to do more. To Start this show. We have fun. Okay. Good I. It is I'm happy to. Make for that introduction I'm like, wow, you know that was frigging awesome. I was scared because I know miss something that you were in. Our remember. What was it? Like. I won't mention a temptation with Kim but I forgot you did that to. The music video. No she temptation. All? Yes. I forgot I forgot something. There's probably forty two other things that I've missed as well. Anyway. So you you've been sort of on the grind. Reintroducing yourself to America for the Twelfth Time Right Right right you've. You've no mind grind. One thing people don't know about first of all mirror and I have known each other for so long. We met you came to. We didn't meet here although you were here. You were at the Gridiron game premier. You told me during remember that you did forgot to mention Gridiron. Yes I was there. You were at the premiere of that and reached out to me or my states. Over member nicely. You. Coexist now. Tom No. Are you sure Wrapped up facebook. Soon right exactly. I'm actually checking the seat is my space is my count still good because? I think. Quite I don't know. But Justin Timberlake. Purchased it so This is still my space still exists leading ask someone like your kitchen on it but not all of it because I go. Even find. Shit. I. GotTa. See fringed is still up I'm sorry. Oh. Anyway. Go ahead. Dame, we still have our mice makes accounts. Yeah, you still can log in, but you can still see like if you hit some pictures and audio. mys- based is still one online states. Yes. We are all going on my. Ready to get off. We've been talking about lovecraft I know I know and Evan. I'm such a fan of the show I. Think I've been waking you up out your sleep to ask you about the show. Yeah pretty much. I do get. I'm glad you obliged. In the morning where you like new grow. That's competent and and that's cleaning up the word. Yes. We're GONNA, hit it a little s journey y'all I'm just glad to see you in Michigan Greenback together because the underground was like my shit. It was nice show to man I mean I'm. Funny About Meka in in my relationship with her is how we started off like we started off hated each other. Accurate in how I could not stand her when I pilot of underground. I. Remember. Calling people being like, what did I signed up for and how do I get out of this? Experience. Well, here's the. She and I you know initially she she one of the first thing she had said three was she grabbed my hand. She said, we're going to be best friends. She gets out. As we started doing the pilot. We just kept butting heads and became a running joke on said that Oh journeys in the. Good luck starting. On time journey going to be arguing for twenty minutes prior to the. Thanksgiving. Well when I'm playing, are you allowed to argue with your director? Well, here's the thing she was. It was the first time I was like the the lead of show and it was the first time. She was show runner of a show. So we there was a lot of pressure on. US right and and. I. Wanted you know I come with my research in my opinions about a Cag- like you hard to do a job right. So let me do my fucking job and then here she comes being like, yes but this is what my vision is. Blah Blah Blah that's normal for for people, but we just had to figure out how to collaborate. We had to figure out each other's love languages because there was a lot of just debating and arguing not seeing eye to eye with things, and then you know once we got over that it was really the whipping scene in the pilot of underground in which we argued to. I mean overtalked it in and I kept saying look it's not on the page is not hear what you want me to do. I don't know how to make that. Sit In my body in a truth. So and everything I would try. We rehearsed it and I would try kings in my body and she would just be like, no that ain't no that ain't it am. I cool. Is this handful Let me try. No and it's finding on the day of shooting. I told our director Anthony Everywhere said. We don't want to discuss it. Don't talk to me about this scene. I'M GONNA go out there and do it I. Don't know how to do it but I'm GonNa do it. I said the only thing is please don't let me down on the whip because at this point I've got nothing else to hold on to sit to get an actual response out of me you know. And then I looked up and we're sitting on this plantation. It was a real plantation in Louisiana and I saw this oak tree industry had been there for over two hundred. Probably two to three hundred years. And I thought of Billie Holiday's strange fruit and I thought of all the strange fruit that had probably hung from that tree. And I pray to the ancestors and. went out did see. Anthony didn't cut. He just kept doing take after take angle after angle without cutting. and. Afterwards, I couldn't stop crying crying for Lake a good ten minutes, initia- and Aldous, in manages held me. And it was an interesting breakthrough formation I of like. Okay we just have to trust the process. We just have to trust the material and we have to trust each other because when it comes time. The work will be there. When when high intensity seems? To be shot be. Murder or the awkwardness of a love scene or screaming or shouting rage. Your icon of baseball bet seen. How much? preparation. Or time do you need to go to a convincing dark place or is it like you show up instead of five in the morning and goat? L. No I'm not that person back. I would never. I. I'd had nothing to pull from my well would be MD of. And just don't work out so I spent a Lotta time doing research. Okay. Robin Williams once shared a story about when shooting. Would Deniro Robin Williams Deniro. awakenings. There's a scene where. Robin Williams and Deniro had to like. Come outside of the hospital and they were shooting on location in the Bronx. And You know since the beginning of the film. Deniro was method acting mode and stayed that character the entire duration of the film. Even, when he went home. And because they were on location in the Bronx. And there were like people on stamp by watching this one spectator. I think like distracted Deniro so much that they had to shut production down. By like an old drunk black guy. He was trying to get his attention all day. Bobby. Bobby D and then he's like a Bobby D. You still love second black pussy. And like. Robin Williams. Like they tried ignored it and then Robin Williams looked at Deniro and then they started dying by they was laughing on the floor cracking up. And Ben Deniro couldn't get back into character they had to shut down. and. Like let him reset and come back the next day to do that. That scene. So wonder like in terms of of channeling that like how hard is it to how long do you need to to get into that? That's the movie with budget. Of Character. That's like. Never experienced that. You know it's it's interesting that you talk about that because half the battle is fighting off a distraction. You know set is such a such circuits. And in. All the preparation you do whether you get months or weeks or however amount of time you get leading up to you know go time. When you get onset, it's a whole different beaks NASA, different muscle that you have to be able to express. It's almost like a meditation as a part of your brain you gotta go into where you are able to just focus in. On. The intention in the character, the truth that you're supposed to communicate if quite challenging in scenes like that but. It's just different methods of always abused or I've picked up. You know that just Kinda helped me. In my process get there and there's no one quick fix with it. It's like every project demand something different. It demands a different level for the Calorie, a different level research, a different approach. There's not like a a menu or manual for any project I find like you know it might be music it might be good being in library for hours. It might it's all digital by fire though or have you had. Moments where you know I mean. I'll I'll say that at least in your choices of what you choose to do. There's always A Maverick. Or? I don't know Denzel is a person that pulls you aside and says, you know I want you to tweet this a little bit whatever like is that even allowed or if it's like low budgets like we only got one for takes be out or no? No no I mean the the goal is for sure to have those people around you. You know I for sure had that Emeka where she will tell me it's not there. Let's let's you know we're GONNA go again but you build up trust with your collaborators with your other actors that hardest thing is working with people you don't trust. I mean you have to work so much harder. To protect the performance and protect the process when you feel like director don't know what the hell he or she doing right now like. You know back to me. is so terrifying because it's just a level is more work. You gotTA. Do you gotta work so much harder when when I did great debaters with is just like I mean for ones like digging a massive class, but I know we're not moving on until we got it right so we might take a penalty with lines we might have to whatever what you know Heller or high water. We're going to get this right. Rules wow did not know that. Oh, absolutely. No rules. No but here's the thing I. Mean it Smart Directors Smart Show runners no wins pick and choose at stuff you know of like this is a scene we gotta get this and there have been times even on lovecraft. There were moments you know for instance, with the exorcism seeing I had to go to director and I had to say to him I was like you know me and Jonathan. We're in it and. Everything's being kind of shot except us. You know. Circle is this. Thing. Yeah. In episode, the win got here in the basement and it was it was one of those moments where as an actor, you got to protect the performance. So I went up to the director and I said listen. My Well Mea Jonathan I me Mike were given it all and I. Don't you know. You're gotta get to a point where there's nothing left to get you know it was it was a scene we shot over the process of three days. and so there's all these elements they're blowing these wind fans there CGI and so there was so much going on and so the director had a lot on his plate to. Kind of capture everything. But at the essence, there is no seen if you don't have those performance right and so that's sometimes you gotta do that. You GotTa like polio? Tale. GonNa say they the actors so that can maybe help a little bit like it's being. called. The what I'm saying is shooting this big this big sequence that in three days Hsun Hito it took. It was a momma where I realized Oh, we're we're doing the why we're behind us. We're we're shooting stock line instead of shooting US right? You know like so sometimes that happens where it's just a big production and you gotta ask for what you need you know and that's part of protecting the process to F why journey? That was the first seen in lovecraft at brought tears to my eyes like that seeing when you break into tears in, you know you're telling him to leave and everything. And I was curious you played you played a lot of roles that now we know. Labels for. Them. Trauma Trauma. In. Triggers. I was just curious out all the roles which was the one that you really took home and you had the light sh shake it off by itches. the more the more projects that take going the more. I. Want the the ones that cost me something. You Know I. Want I'm hungry for the the rolls that. Make, me have to sacrifice make me have to lay it all alter you know for sure lovecraft country is highly up near. With having to make the sacrifice cost me so much mentally physically emotionally, and let me tell you. You've only seen five episodes. Yes. Expect Any more in the season. There's five more a total ten episodes and where I know it go. It's like. But that's the thing that is so incredible as an artist you know you're. Just. For things that challenge you and me should green you sign onto a project with her own challenge. You you know she's going to demand that you stretch. How were you able to tell? The depth of what this was because you know the pilot alone. I. Wasn't familiar with the book. It wasn't familiar with the project at all. I. Knew. You were. A new Michael was doing so I was like, all right I'm aboard. Let's go. And as with a lot of us, you know thought okay, this is. Going to be civil rights, period piece and then. It just went to a whole `nother even though in the beginning. It was there but in my mind I was already crafting like, okay. Well, he's probably an author that dreams of these space things whatever and so. When I realized Oh, what I'm about to get into What I'm trapped into like. How's this conveyed by? Are you reading? All ten episodes. In the script before you make the decision that I'm a board like. When did you have your I os shit moment or did they kind of prep you ahead of time that this? What this is what it was? Well. So underground season two had just been canceled and They were trying to find a home for season three, but it didn't look promising and I mean. I was getting a lot of offers. This is the first time in my career where this was happening where you know there were a lot of. Offers. From some of the best show runners cleaners in the game and I kind of feeling with me show you though she was like fifth invisible agent. I really. You know what? This one. No journeys trash. You can't do it. Okay. Well, this one I mean, it's showrunner he's. Not You know. So then she sent me the pilot of lovecraft and I was aware of her working on it. But when she she said to me like a week or so after she had finished it and I mean instantly just the way it opens it made me miss her writing is so bold and audacious right and I was like wait what the hell is she doing now and then when the character ready came on. When I tell you I had this visceral reaction of like Oh fuck? No K. nobody else lay. Let me. And what the Hell is we should join why is she not talking to me about me being leading? Does she not know that and the only one that could play? Doh addition for this. I didn't have to audition by. Five months passed. From me reading the script. And I hadn't gotten an offer. You know they hadn't offered it to anyone else would just had a now building the world out in making certain hires abroad director, etc.. Brazil she wasn't talking to me about it and that's close we are. It just felt strange. And knowing me she she's the person where it's like you can't can't pain for project with Meka. Give role to somebody if that's who she wants to cast and so I am was in bad robot. Robot and J.j Abrams says to me. Hey, did you. Countries Group and I was like. You know it's incredible and he's like you should do it. And I'm like, Yaw. Me You know what? The hell on he just you know I start panicking and he's like you should do it very comedies. And do you don't have to convince me that I need to do this? You know and so me Chicago a few weeks later and she just says, you know we just hired director and Damange is though I want you to go meet them by. With with something of this deep of undertaking. With ten episodes. Is it the same director for all ten episodes. Now okay. So how how explained to me how that works because it seems very consistent. And is it? Is it the director walking in as the fish out out of water? To. The same cinematographer to the same lighting director to the same like. Consistent or is it a new crew every time? A new episode shot. Ten episodes the pilot. was its own individual crew, right? So Gan. Emmy. Share and the producers were the pilot built a crew that shot we shot in Chicago but for the season, really the consistency is provided by the show runner means agree you know? WHO She wrote most of the episode she directs one one of the episodes. But as the show runner, it's her job to maintain that consistency also, the crew does stay. Stadium entire time. So we have we had to EP's who switched off, but still they maintain the same look in the show saint prop master. You know all the department heads stay the same but MTV, we yeah we get a new director every week. Does wondered. How that works where? Okay. If Marty Scorsese decided to directing episode. Obviously, he's GONNA use film school macher as his. As editor and use his particular style shooting and if episode sixes. In our Ernest Dickerson and he does his little tricks in the one thing and whatever. The mets inconsistent like is it basically agreed upon that. When directors come to do a series that they're coming To us to bring the show runners vision to life as opposed to put their stamp on it. Or their trademark think it depends showed show by show you know with his for sure. You know just watching the way media works she wants the director to come in and bring something fresh and exciting and new. A yet the show, the feel the VIBE. Some of it's gotTA be maintained. You know and then we actors we know our characters. So you you're not coming in and telling me who loses like I know who she you can come in and tell me what let how do we make this more truthful or how do we dig deeper Blah Blah Blah but I know who she is. You know. So I've noticed that can be a challenge for some directors TV because it's different in found film you know as not tour they they. Shut close know like they're not really having to take on the vision of the show runner and some Derek TV excel in that and some I've seen them fall flat on their face because they're edo so big that you know they don't really want to collaborate You mean we're movie directors come to TV, land or when big names come to TV. Lenora I. Mean it doesn't have to be big names seen folks I'm not gonNA lie like even with with I've seen you know on underground. I. Remember there was this one director, the entire cast he we won't name the entire cast hated this man on Undergrad? 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Again we just trusted each other so much we all had like these rituals. That Courtney started on the pilot and. For me yes. Excuse me know look the entire cat. On I mean. Everybody, everybody wound me. Yeah I mean everyone kills it but Yeah. We have this this me Jonathan and Michael inherited the tradition that Courtney started where we give each other is before take. It was a religion. The the approach was so sacred for us you. I don't care where we were starting from I could be insurance on the other side of the field before that tape was going to start, we had to meet up emphasis. There were. Embarrassed, drinks thing. If. We didn't do it. We'd be like that takes up. A lot where the fist-bump. But no I mean working with them was just. Incredible because. You're only as good as your partner. You know when you can look into their eyes and you could see truth and you never know I mean we never knew what? Take. Would the next week was going to be like his take was fresh and exciting and present in honest? Challenging each other how far can we dig deeper? You'll be moments meeting Jonathan just on on on a sound stage just going at it just rehearsing you know lines. Going back and forth over and over you know how how could you explain what the processes from the table read to? We have the take because. Don't know if I've ever seen a movie. In which like I'm trying to parallel to? musicianship. Are the is the timing. Based at the table read and is the table read like a four times over thing or it just like whoever's in the scene? We have an hour before he's done. Let's go. It's like. You go to electric lady for like a year and just groups and stuff. I wrote the entire album on the spot. Who Years later? Oh three cubs in puts his thing on, and then that's the. Latest. I mean because. I don't I look for other nuances that I don't think the average person looks for when I'm watching. And I guess as a musicianship, I'm seeing you guys as instruments trying to out. The the Yin and Yang balance of. Of Timing. And the pacing of a conversation and. You know like, for instance, if you watch woody Allen Films. He's world famous for winning his actors to talk on top of each other. Because he's like everyone talks on top of each other in. New York. City. So I went to to make that real but. Can you walk us through like what from script till we got it like how how much preparation is put in for? Rehearsals. Again it various product project speak about lovecraft I mean with the pilot. We had we had very little rehearsal a lot of the prep was about. Diving into the inner struggle, the inner workings of the character right you know But the table you know allow people approach the table read differently But. This one they actually found between worry which was a first for me because JJ was shooting star wars in London and couldn't make the table rate so they filmed it so he could watch it. But. You know. Everybody you know some actors at the table ratings. They just kind of in some actors go win. So honestly, the peace like you said, it's very much. So like symphony. And it's not really formed until you until you get in it, you know but every step along the way helps inform it in. So whether it's rehearsals or whether it's even costume designers and hairstyle is makeup artist or you know every everybody kind of adds a level layer two to the project that you don't that you feel you may not see it. and. So when you talk about pacing rhythm and stuff like that, you know a lot of that just informed on the day it's Through instinct informed. Response. I hear you respond I listen respond. It's just like this conversation we're having you know. Here he journey I was on. I was on the tonight show. A lot about the. About it. God Steve. I still have you saved my phone as my coffee. down. Way Do. Or does this sound like Steve Recall your best friends with each other? Journey was it easier to do something like love graph coming off of birds appraised if there's a little lighter? Craft lighter. No I'm saying is since. Since birds of prey was so light is easier to go into love crap instead of coming from heavy too heavy. There's no nothing easy about any of it is. Not, easy in your spirit and your you know because you just. Look. I don't seek ease. Progress. Need e Okay. Let's go back to the Goddamn beginning. Right there. Is No. I mean look birds of prey was definitely different because look I had to try and from five months to. dreux martial artists, you know So it's it's it definitely required different muscles than lovecraft country. And like the whole comic book world is its own beast and and I tried to approach that with the same amount of reference that I would approach the techs lovecraft you know but. The approach is. Each project is GonNa require different things you know I shot the pilot for the craft then went and trained for birds of Prey Shot Virgil, back in shot you know the remaining season of low crowd is finding because Michel afterwards was like so these arms they gotta go. Damn he's black canary arms you got like. Say Now your character is really important her I. Mean you look great I don't know the correct way to say this the bunch of Fellas in the room On lovecraft here's the Taylor. The way things are fitting. You I just have never seen your it. It looks amazing Jer. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We worked hard at that. You know the the tannery and costumes and things the darts. the dark. Show we looked at we looked debt thousands of images of costumes from this time from this era and the just the integrity that they had in the clothing I mean look. T shirts in sweats right now like by nature I'm not. Letting you know but. For that to get the air right into do justice. The tailoring is a big part. It's really why amazing. All right. Let's get the the denise. Frazier questions out the way. So bill my favorite curse word. toughest. Question you were asked today. You indeed have history. Yeah. It's known that you've been acting from the womb. Ima Very, though it just hit me that I remember like I, remember your face everywhere like. There's a gazillion things that you've done as a youngster. and which I remember your face I'm. Sure, you've demartin before you've done like remembered certain things. was there ever talk about developing? Your own show like how did you avoid the I guess what I would call the Disney trap think Disney was handing out shows like hotcakes. The mid nineties in two thousand and five like you could have easily been in that you could been that's a raven is D- You. Know what I mean right? Right or that sort of thing. What's crazy is Disney has built some careers. You know I. Mean there's a lot of. Actors. Entertainers I've I respect that have come from Disney? So but my mother. My mom wounds I say this with. As much respect can up. About. Another issue was. Surrounded the. Bottle? Man. How snobby why she jeremy be was she she she was offered to do like the my own Disney show several times and stuff like that. She just wouldn't let me do it. She wouldn't let me do it my agent at the time thought she was crazy goes. I'm GonNa make so much money. We were broke y'all growing up we were so for at moments like. My brother. Talk about how? We had like nothing but like a wilted carrot and apple and refrigerator. We were. There is seven hundred. And you know. Everybody gets, A. Carrot. Stick. Everybody, gets them Lindsey Leans. Some beans and rice. During you earn Eileen we my family growing up. My mom didn't she really didn't care about money and so especially after my parents divorced, we really struggled you know and there were moments where it was just like Oh and my mom wouldn't let she wouldn't let me do it There were so many things but my mother's very proud of the fact that she would. She would say all the time I can go and sell posting on a corner. To make money you know I don't need. My kids you know. I can make money if I really need to and she never she never she never did it just. So y'all know but. Her. Point. Was that you? Guys. That was an embarrassment. Point was that. Are was. Not to be. Bought and sold by the highest bidder know and she just has level of integrity but she was also the woman that you know was making me read Katherine Hepburn's by autobiography. When Something who how did you end up a full house? Well, I guess what made her convinced? They're full house full house. I, mean, well, that was before I was offered any sort of Disney show. You know. I gotta ask her. It was like an audition that the catcher character was written as little white girl and the casting director called might agent said you know whether or not? I'd be willing to my mom would let me come in your setting like that. At nine time you show Ya I was four under sir. Your. Mom. I need to talk to you but also. Thought were their rules that As, far as acting hours like most of those actors that I know back then were like I know the sprouse's well Cole and Dylan like usually come in pairs. Even. Michelle. Tana's one person play by. Mary, Kate, and Ashley. Why Role. In not using a body double or your sibling Joey Sweden, they handle body W. Again. Are, asking you don't remember. She said she was. She was. Way. He's Bhai. You do you remember that I? Aston time here I remember I do remember doing full House I. Remember the feeling of the live studio audience in in in between takes they would play music and I would like dance with the audience and they would go crazy. Member I remember that really Richard was your grandfather I remember. Little. Richard. Was My. Staying in my household 'cause my mom and dad were like big music heads coolest thing that I was working with him and you know so I remember things like that the power of. You know the power you can have over an audience to to get a reaction out of them. The feeling of them laughing at something you would do the best. You know It was a little light beer in in a sense you know for my four or five six year old self. What do you consider your first real like? Get into it would that be used by. Considered by that I, mean before that Jack was. I do remember being at Francis, Ford, Coppola ranch, his his vineyard. And I mean Robin Williams teaching me how to Improv? Because those seeing that did together those were all improper. That's all he did. You know he's the King of that He kept telling me about just don't think you know just the first thing that comes off the top of your head. What do you notice about like he would do all these exercises with me? but enes buying for sure was the first time and I felt like. Oh I WANNA do this. Prior to that it was it was like. How kids play baseball little league or something like that. You know a hobby. A passion and then with ease value. It's interesting. I learned. I just learned. A deeper appreciation for the craft of the. You know. At the time At. Your what ten eleven for Eve's by. We started three days after I turn ten. Okay so I mean at that time were you still? In your formative years like. Okay well, I'm doing this now but I, really want to be like, what did you want to be when you were? Older as like did you want to be an actress or was it? I mean. I throughout my like adolescence it kind of. I loved during Eve's by say was the first time that I've fell in love with it I got that high that stimulation that you get from losing yourself in character I started understanding from from Sam and Casey you know different tricks and things that you do. Approaching the craft. But say, even like my teenage years adolescent, there were moments that I thought. I, quit I don't WanNa do this because the industry was just unease. It can set the life out of you. You know it can make you if you don't let it it can. It can bring out the worst qualities in yourself and another people. And I became a little jaded Mainali And I thought. Probably around the time I was like nineteen or twenty I sat on going go and work in the philanthropic world or be an accountant 'cause I loved math. and then I went on a trip with you know I was you know I mean I was doing like working with artists south. Africa had you've come? Activists at. The age tree. Part of Your Life Yeah and so my trip to South Africa with artists when South Africa who delegation of artists like with Sam Sam, Jackson and his wife were Tanya and Deborah Santana Carlos Santana Alfie water and a bunch of other artists paid for me to come with them to south. Africa and at trip changed my life. and. When I was over there, I just watched how powerful art can be you know that we were able to build. Well, we were able to just watch the impact that these artists and their work had across seas overseas. and. Just Carter convicted in since will if I have a gift if I have been given. The gift how dare not use it because I actually have a greater impact when people? If I use it. In, my head, you're activists first and then you act on the side. That's because. You know me from the like. Yo. We on stop for Obama we don't phone bank and knock on doors at I will say. Like you always. will say that your journ before a new journey, I mean. A thought. Political activism in that sort of work was you know? was disturbed. By. Actors and. And in Neil young and sting for you know for Walden Woods no I mean you know at the time it was just like. Besides. On the message and the music town clean up the ghetto town. Yeah Yo but no one spoke my language and you know somehow being the small household. Like, Oh, they've been doing this shit since they was to. Light your first protests was. When la was burning, right? Yeah Jason I. Remember yeah like five. In the nineteen ninety, two uprising I clearly remember my mom had an on street corner. We had all made signs about Rodney King, it was right after the the cops who be viciously beat him were quit. And they were all the uprisings happening and she had us right out there you know. What my mother, my mother and my father met. In the movement working with Angela Davis in oak learn you know and so working is Davis. Dote. Mother and my. Father I know but I'm just thinking. No matter. How did you journey meet? You mean. My. I met at the. Roots Jam Session. Host it. I did was this the Chapelle one of the year before La? The. La. It the it was la one. It was like the second year yard done in. I think. To me to walk. I didn't let me in, but I was there. To get to the roots, jam it like when the doors opened it was. Six. You get into the fucking party. This is way before in the heights this was. This was like two, thousand, five, I, think. Five thousand fucked up a journey our you maneuvering now I know you guys are big activists family so Man How are you maneuvering in the midst of the cluster fuck of twenty, twenty and? Our you maneuvering towards the election when it comes to your activism how I mean, it's like you got attack it from. So many ways you know for one this cluster fuck of twenty twenty at Joe I mean I don't. Understand it. You know. Now, that your mother is it. Harder for you to to pound the pavement more. What's interesting? So it was quite sobering because. There was a point in which we were quarantined and. Curfew. and it was it was. When I tell you brought a rage out inside of me I hadn't been. Curfew since nineteen ninety-two. with, uprising, you know here in La with my family and so now to be a mom same city and curfews been. You know The first time I stepped outside the House after you know during this whole quarantine process was to go to a meeting in a church basement be. and Dr Molina Abdulah in Geneva the future and and Kendrick in you know all the. Folks who are doing such incredible work on the ground where there and honestly it was a selfish thing for me to go because I needed to feel. That I could do something with his rage I needed to channel it in some. And even if it was just showing up and I don't really know what I'm contributing but I'M GONNA show up right you know actually why I'm asking you because I feel the same way like I need to do something. So I'm just trying to get ideas, and so I find myself reaching out to like Patrice or or focus be like. All right where are we going now because I just need to? Every Wednesday here now, a Organizes in front of. Jackie Lacey's office. She's gotTa go year that woman has got to go right and. I. The Times when I went. I. Didn't do anything I just witnessed and there were so many families who were there and got up and spoke you know families of. Lost One you families of folks who have been taken from us. By the hands of of the LAPD or. Some sort of police force right in just a bear witness. You know just to give someone a hug you know for me it was honestly food for muscle to be there anytime I've got any of the protests or something like that I feel like I'm being fanned by being part of it. You know But what we're most of the stuff that we're able to do now through do or on email organizing letters that we're trying to write putting pressure on the police unions or whatever approach we take a lot of it. It's from a distance that. Is Happening, but navigating it as a mom on Amir. It's different because for instance. My mother would have had me out there right and Wasn't. If it wasn't for Kobe I'd have my son at these protests with me. You know I've gone with like my brothers and stuff but I haven't taken hunter just because it's frigging Kobe and it just felt like, okay I. Just I put myself risk but I'm gonNA keep him here. You know but I yeah man I don't. Know it's it's definitely navigating everything in life right now is extra charge. Being, mom I'M NOT GONNA lie co-parenting a whole new thing I wasn't Mario Plan. You have dirty. Go co-parenting all right all day. I can go deep. Shut up your nose ships. People take care of you in a CO parent. Co Parenting. because. Steve. Tonight. Good. Stephen. Great. And Times a cold and you know what? The fuck like remote learn your kid or narrow learn your kid or send your kid to the thing. Yours. Hunters Sherry and you have to wait how is he now a you're supposed to be home homes learning me Attorney. Schoolteacher like. I'm supposed to be learning you. Three three. Right. Yeah he still bright but he Had to read learning early mathematics and I mean he stowed he's I think he's going to be quite advanced. So does he know a sesame street is? Currently for long time he loves. Here's the God of Sesame Street. All right bill and the god of comedy and Good Luck. Right. Now got gotTA sesame. Street's getting drunk right now. Arranged A. Yeah Right. The out of Cova no idea what it is. Journey I have a story. That's I. Don't know if it's similar story but it's some kind of Segue from your story when you're talking about being both quarantined and under a curfew we had the same thing here in New York there at one point there happening simultaneously. And is just inside, you know thinking how strange and I was looking it up like when was the last time new? York City had a had a curfew and it was like I forget it was in the nineteen thirties or something like that. But I was up here in my apartment thinking now is so strange quarantined and curfews at the same time you know and I hear the mother Levin Ice Cream in coming down the street. I assume. One I heard an ice cream truck coming. This bizarro world right now. Go running outside. Go get an ice cream. Off. I swear and then like. The free the mayor here like called the National Guard and he was just like come on I mean it was literally reminiscent of the nineteen ninety-two situation and relations. People what are you doing? Beverly Hills. I mean. But it just had enough. I. Have Friends who were injured by rubber bullets kindred. You know forgetting ginger. Lewis was it yeah. I know several people actually you know the tier is just ridiculous to me and one of the things though that Doctor Molina was talking about it really the success movement is going to depend on. Our imagination. How big can dream and I think that's such a powerful way of Raining the discussion around this because people want to talk about like de-fund will be there to show up when you actually need. And it's like, no. Can you dream about a reality that has never existed before right green about a world in which you do not call the National Guard on your own people you dream about a world in which this one-size-fits-all. Actually, you realize no. People are different sizes so you can't do a one size fits in world where people know the history of this country for real because that's the whole thing non police you get frustrated with that too with all people have woken up in they're like wait this happened that happened the history of the is this they did originally were established. A Not Not to be the party pooper. Eared about today's developments trump wants to. This. On Air but. Trump wants to enforce a mandatory. What he what he's calling? A PATRIOTIC Occasion. A forced. A forced lesson on patriotic history in America is. kind of a reversal to the was pregnant What was in the New York Times? How they? You know some schools now are starting to put in their curriculum about. You know the truth. About Slavery in America that they haven't done before. Eighteen. Sixteen, Nineteen project. So kind of his version of that but you know, of course we. But he the. We all. You want know was hilarious not. All I'm kind of a man within a without an island here. One of the things that's happening that is not getting out there in the news is the fact that. They're also switching without warning like new new units like where I used to vote has suddenly change. Right my my polling location has changed and now that. It's technically like over the city limits or whatever I got to start all over again. So. Yeah. I just found. We. Found that a week and a half ago that I have to reregister to vote. There's I'm certain that there's a lot of people in that position. You know I I in any other normal circumstance. I would have just assumed that yeah I'm registered in. My normal. Place that have been going through for the last thirty years. Right, and some told me. Chuck, let me let me make sure that they employ flip your they pulled the Flip Plan They did it especially your stay. 'cause you stay correct. No, I'm I'm a Pennsylvania Yeah. earthy. Yeah, right. But here's the thing though it's like big state. Now Gary where I'm currently about to get a house you know if if I if I claim Pennsylvania Then, I have to live the life of two people in pay. Taxes. That's the rear part when you have to figure out what you want to do as a voter I mean I moved to California now so it's weird because it's such a blue state but I, Kinda, Miss Building in Pennsylvania after voice Rem California now or are you still bourbon? Let us a lot of confusion out there mass confusion. I want everyone to check just just to make sure because I'm telling you that say that again complain like I've got new letters. Anymore is called redistricting redistricting or something like that. Stuff on things and we okay. So vote stave dot you ask slash Obama is wine place you can go. From Obama had posted this so I trust. This yesterday. He. said US votes eight dot US Lash Obama. You can go there to read see if you're registered and find out about early voting we all. Over. Obama's. Tom Right. Exactly. Journey said though rings true. A lot of people don't know that. where I'm formerly from Camden new or Philadelphia. Right across the water in Camden New Jersey they already. Started the process there seventy percent of sort of starting from scratch, not necessarily defunding the police but starting just washing it over in starting a new and the results are astounding. You know 'cause one thing is that most police officers are not from the neighborhood's. Yeah Right. So it's. Alan Manifesto that they things I wish they would probably. They followed that like Camden right now is actually like probably leading the charge and and very exemplary of what should be happening like. You have officers that are walking the beat more than they are in their cars. So it's like you have to be of the people. From the area and they know everyone by name. Not to mention you know the thing is is like it's it's like also being a in the medical profession like. There's certain amount of tests and. And a process that you have to go through like if your doctor you would have to go through these things that most police officers never have to go through. Right, and so this is happening right now in Canada, New Jersey, and like crime. The. Two, thousand, six canned him. Was What number three? was three or to like the most violent city in America. Tell you they were averaging jersey. Cancun. Yes. Go visit people in prison over there. Yeah. It was bad. I mean the number so bad. That's why Philadelphia kind of. It bled over into Philadelphia phillies most violent years between two, thousand, six in two, thousand, nine. As a result of what was happening, Canada it's fallen down like seventy percent now so It's wild. You know where where the funding and where the money goes you know. Here in la the La USD, that school district has their own police force. I mean. It's wild to me that you could spend they spend I think roughly seventy, four, million dollars. Just having a police presence in schools with children. I mean do you Imagine. If you funneled that money, you channel that money into community led. Initiatives right. gifts thirty million dollars to those children's parents have. Have a presence in their children's highschool. Daddy all Mama who you know that working three jobs and barely able to see their children pay him to be in the schools. That have an actual police presence. You. Just in these children in right into prison. You know but his priorities, its priorities, and that is the plan. Curly Luke Twenty twenty one, what is it going be? Are you still giving speeches during a? Yeah. So As we were saying earlier you know when? I was like, all right. I'll do this. Journey was like, okay. You're you're pounding the pavement with us. Have a say in the matter don't like. Or you don't get invited to Thanksgiving or some shit like that. So. I I'll do this and so in my mind I'm just thinking like, okay well, I'll drive. I'll do something. Like know you're going to give speeches on. You love a good public appearance their. Public Speaking Appearance Elias Phase Right now everything go he can't talk but sometimes you know you Amir is out doing everything he was we were literally knocking on. Was it Philly or somewhere. In Ohio, I don't remember where we weren't. Hi, I'm Katie lowes and on my podcast Katie's Crib I talk about the ups and downs of parenting with no-holds-barred here a few of my favorite moments from Katie's crib presented by target this Halloween target has introduced adaptive Harrison costumes, parents of differently abled children can shop their collection to make sure their kids can express who they are and want to be for Halloween. It's all part of targets belief in God. 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They're not necessarily thinking about what fits into your monthly budget and how much breathing room you're going to need. Yeah. I sort of see pre approval letter almost as like the on your car just because it says it can do one forty doesn't mean you should be doing now. There's a limit that you should probably stay within a legal limit but but yeah, just because you're pre approved a certain amount doesn't mean you should take it there at into it they want to help you through these difficult times for more advice reflections from past recessions. visit into it. Dot Com slash financial tips to hear more of this episode tune into the how to money podcast available on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Are Archaic Journey Are we going to tell the story? That which. I. Reign. Story answers. Store. All during say no I'll. I'll tell it. I mean it's it's we were talking about the Marina del Rey run. So, often what you're doing is we would phone bank. He's talking about Oh eight like really when we started. Heavily. County though he had you. It was Marina del Rey. We were leaving A. White people were remember worrying. Dowry. Off the. we were leaving a grassroots organizing meeting for Obama and eight. and. During the primaries, he hadn't even one year. Tuesday. Yes we were depressed. County. Hillary we were so depressed and so. He was driving his mini coupe. When it comes to L. A. Drizzle. Listen. You could. You could tell like who's no me like based on the car I was driving during. Goes from them. You. Forgot. We were depressed. Do we go see like there will be blood or something like it was something depressing just remember remember but we got pulled over. Flex. Story that's lightly putting. Yeah. Forget he asked me I mean pretty much. We had. It was almost like that seeing. Of Traffic. Traffic. It. Was it was. It was it was traffic for us more like boys for me traffic. I'm grabbing Donald trump the it was so many stories and traffic. Which Crash The same kind of movie. A Lotta stories I always confuse them. Any who we get pulled over and I pull out my camera and Mike Starting to. It's a phone camera. It's like the. Kim Quarter. To hit the red button ghetto boom box. and. Cox to the car. Journey has the glory HFS. Is like. You Ain't Ella Baker right now. Time to be elevator put into it because it's massive. Black. Man Fear and so they a she's ready to start the revolution in the car to televise it and You know they they ask Amir to get out of the car don't tell them why. They asked me to get out of the car. patting him down, they walk into the back of the car any. Handcuff him, put him in the back of the car. They pat me down search me in ways that. I would say was incredibly violating. The the. The difference between now, and then is that, of course with? The technology cell phones, you don't know if you're being recorded or not but that was definitely there's definitely. A moment in time where they were just reckless because they knew that. Nobody's ever going to see this. This or get away with this even when they were asking questions like Santa like what happens Go with the thing is, is that I know you know it's it's. It's like the pro is like the it's like being on the price is right and it's like. When you're home, you know that you know that bottle of windex is whatever six, ninety nine or whatever like when you're home you know you know all the answers on jeopardy. But when you're there and you see the look in their eyes, I I was just like I'm GonNa die tonight like this is. This is is the most helpless emasculating feelings ever and you know he's talking about. Where's your? I forgot what questioning he and I said well, you know my. I said, you know my sister at the office in and all God I need like office like. It's like you can't be too smart or else you're. Asan. Or that sort of thing and your your mind is just blink because they know you don't know your rights, of course. No one what I've seen now like. We shouldn't have gotten out the car. How do you even put handcuffs on you? Like. Well, they didn't give us any explanation. They'd been handcuffed me and put me in the back with me here and we set there. If felt like an eternity sitting in the back of that car together, we like neither one of US knew to say, we just sat there in silence arm back in front and back Oh my God. That's. Yeah, and then they came back they. You know look through everything in his car, my purse and and just kind of like ended him back driver's license and said Okay you shoot the weirdest shit was. They wanted to look in the trunk. And Journey, and I had stopped by Borders. Because Dornan, my manager just moved to La and is like, okay, I'm GonNa get her I'm getting deluxe crap. I'm going to get her a deluxe scrabble game. In my mind I was like he's going to open his trunk a see all these scrabble's in psychology books in the in the back, and he's going to say there's no way. Just car belongs to these two. Oh And the his thing was that and I never verified it. I think we did ask like, why did you pull us over? Rich rich was calling me on the phone. Here's the weird shit. Rich was called me on the phone about Princess Table at the jam session. And me quote being a good citizen I was like, okay. Let me pull the car over a second take this phone call you know or I could have just picked up the car know call while I was driving but I didn't. and. We happen to be in front of a A mini Cooper dealership I guess. I. mean he says. He said something as if the lights, the plates didn't match the rental car. Right contract and we were like. But had not pull us over to check to see the plates matched the rental contract like you didn't have a contract. When you decided to pull us over to know if they didn't matching and. It just was cream rich they let us go without a ticket without a warning without anything because there was nothing that Amir actually Dan wrong it was just he was driving while black in a mini crew would have big throw right and. We just fell honestly we just we drove away it it. Heart. ruined. Inside Mir marry you kept you can't. That's a weird thing. I don't even consider like even to look at that I. think that's when I started just put my. Own. Honestly. If you. Let. The following Sunday did that was? Right. Until. Again. It's nice down. Okay you're right bill. I get pulled over I did win a grammy. Anyway. So. allergist Abbas go let this because he better, he going on new I the mini coupe. Sorry I'm making a joke. I shouldn't. I'm so fucked up by all this I don't know what to say. This. Is the one story I rarely share in public because it's just you know. Access just to process it. Is that word you kept using. You kept saying journal I just feel so emasculated yeah for you to say also. Two of you in the back of a cop car not speaking to each other is is is the quietest quiet I think I've ever heard of quiet like you're the most talking to people I've met longtime feel like you would have a lot to say in this particular crazy fucked up moment. Quiet. is even more. Intense than. We, live in such a machismo society whereas. I mean, don't let other men overpower them anything an intellect physically or those things, but it's almost like this unspoken thing. Ed citizens know that any moment a cop can in your life within. The bounds of the quote Unquote Law and for you Amira's. About you had journey with you. So as a May, even double Axel House going to say. It's if. Deep it. It goes back to slave days of like you know the emasculation of the Black Man of like we're going to do this in front of you in. This woman. And guess what guess what you can't do you can't stop sprite and so that's what we both. Could feel as we were driving away he kept being like so sorry, I kept being like, what could you have done? It was nothing you could done like. It Out Alive. That's better than a lot of people in this situation can say like. That's a shitty. Shitty reality have to settle for it's like, Oh, well, at least we made it out alive, but we did y'all we made it out alive. You know. That's the shitty thing of driving while black in the shitty thing of. Walking while black and involve land wildland. Even. have. You had any situation like that ever since. Oh God. Yeah. More. Yeah you now I've shot so much in the south to you know 'cause I've had several experiences I mean I remember shooting great debaters was that after before I can't remember I think those before but I remember we did the lynching see and I was driving a set in the van and over the radio I, heard what of the teamsters say Well we're having a legend, the day ladies, gentlemen I mean like Yeah You I've dealt with some crazy as stuff you know y'all as you all have to yeah but you deal with it and then you act it out it's different you like reenact it. So it's to me as well. That's my that's my way of channelling pain I guess yeah, is Trying to place it somewhere. You know obviously with love crop, there is a lot I had to pull from. Okay. Lot In my life was shitty at bedtime but when Season Two or Return or I don't know that's interesting. Wait still. There's not an instant slam dunk she said, we will see like we will see. We will see. I mean as a triple. The power. That's above my pay grade HBO. Shit together. That's what I know. I'd be generally hurt if. Nothing angers me more when I I get emotionally involved in a series. Only. For to be yanked away. Calls. Saying that can make your phone calls. The good news is that all signs point to very positive response from. Folks from critics from I mean the I was recently told the pilot is like. Setting records were how many people have watched it. So I I'm. Sure for A. Kaffir Twenty, eight of those views. The pilot maybe eleven times because I've made other people. As We're wearing shape how we're in good shape. You let me ask you this. What does it feel like being apart it's an interesting time where we have lovecraft P. badly the shy like I'm leaving somebody out is one more other show than her like female black female show watchmen. Not Run. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yes it was the time. Does it do you feel that like your? Yours is. To. Hell. Yeah. It's incredibly exciting and I think one of the exciting things for me about love crack when I read the pilot was it deconstructs this classic Janjua in such a radical in was. Really like fuck, Buck you to him. Somebody said that to me like lovecraft a whole races. This great A real. Good Buck You I. Love It. Did you know that Amir no school me. Yeah now it's Briefly in the pilot Amir when you So when you watch it for the seventeenth time, twin advocates, his cat when advocates says Uncle George you know about the essay that lovecraft grow called on the creation of niggers. Okay You dropped another Easter egg that I wasn't aware. We have to watch. Twice or three times to catch eating catch before true that true that yeah I I do have to say I keep telling me that I don't know if people are going to love her or hate her by the end of the season. It was it was good Paris. That's I think the timing came out perfectly because in in quarantining this gives you. All the time in the world you need to. Really really. Concentrate on this. But I just got to give you a warning at just at where she takes us all. season. Episode right as of this taping were only on number five and might say that number five was was its own thing. I was just proud of all my heterosexual or masculine men who can send you their love crab journey because it was. A new day and age man it's nice out that. Don't be like people. Some certain dudes wasn't is a lot of men that were like. That's still watching, but if he might aren't used to Michael K Williams, sort of being fluid and his roles, no, not him the actual act, the sexual act was heavy i. Myself and I'm I I will say savvy. Voice, Leeann offset. That's what I'm. You going reload the two things. That was having. So it was also what was happy gone with Rudy so that was. Brilliant I've just I'm just warning you if you. If think she has taken you braces. Deeper. Ready To she is going to mess with your mind. Your emotion I have a question in episode for. That was green screen. Or? Actual location the the plink seen. Oh okay. I mean, look obviously a lot of it below you know we were we were up in some of in some of it. They had. It's like on wires maybe like a hundred feet up or something like that So they had to fill in the rest of it but. It was a lot of funds to do something that's not work. I would be remiss to say that. There is a lovecraft country radio. Yes when at at. It's it's. Down all the episodes I'll shoot okay. It's really driving to the form. What I'm listening to highly recommend after watching each episode going listen to that kids. They really do a great job of breaking it down. From the rightist perspective to. Absolutely in the writer's room, sterling is thoroughly broken down well, before a mirror ends or whatever I just wanted to journey. I've got to tell you as a representation fan hood out here I appreciate every rolling shows in all the energy you have put in too. Just. Thank you. Yes. Any are you allowed to talk about future projects that you're working owners everything Super Nda? We'll see it when we see it. you hear about something soon Oh, wait journey. How do you feel about filming in a covert America? Who says I'm going to be an American, might awesome. K now. Known. Work. Places other places, listen. That's how you they have found places 'cause I've. Never been to okay I to go to. It's definitely GONNA be different. You know some of the we have to do. This project I'm about to do. Like quarantine for two weeks I'm like, yeah, I bake warranty but okay continue. Quarantine in the quarantine. It's a thing tested like. Meditating I'll do. Yeah, we get tested they can't be. No it's too close. Can't be around each. No actually I was joking but I think you're serious bill. Yeah. Of course observes verse nurse person but also the the the. Yeah. It's like one person director is the same way that everything else is filled everything's. Zone, A, and Zone B and. It's ridiculous and that's too but it is me country. Okay wherever you're going. I. Hope You appreciate how painless this was was. It should've asked her. Hey Journey. Is a Lotta Fun. One two. For one to getting teeth pulled how easy was this interview? was. Point. Seven. That was. It okay. Anyway happy. Birthday journ early birthday. Oh. Thank you. Go. co-parenting is journey and I'm not even out. Journey. To turn away. Last question. Dude, you're singing. You. Finally. How, how is the process of of singing? And and I was really birds of prey. Excuse wait. Shop No offense. Some journeys face right now. So Ernie. It was me. I do my stance I mean you know you DO A. All the uncomfortable things you can say, let's see if we don't do martial arts if you're GONNA love lower. Yes. Thank you. Okay Oh. Yeah. Okay. You killed it in you send your ass up. So okay. Thank you. Originally, get me to sing even trying to get me forever. It's the thing I am most terrified to do. And singing. You come from A. Family I. Do the dishes together, singing and all that stuff. Oh, we do but. First of all. Tell you how he came over to Thanksgiving dinner one year. That was the whole premise of the last time you guys won't show. Every thanksgiving Amir text me. He'll be on nights. Extra me J. just. Like. I WanNa know what time? Ten, o'clock at night. You'll Texas it'd be like y'all eat dinner. You know you'll take the Turkey out yet. Like that ten o'clock. Do I'm. That's Only, thanks giving because everyone's got their dish and everyone's dishes gotten better than the other person and. We went light on journey. Journey has made houses with her hands that. Journey. She could be tool time like like. I we do three. Eight hundred and travel. She's a plumber. Chick. Model homes. Shells. Kill. All right. I can I can your hardwood floor you need me to? Can. Take. Away. The most. April you need great handed me based on the costs Matte finish all that shit. Got Taper. fucking name Yeah Okay you're not handy bills not much for the record. I am not however my house just got renovated finished literally today I'm not fucking around the polyurethane fucking semigloss got done today. Thing journey talking about putting her hey. Ceiling Fan. So can journey. Clearly. Burke's there isn't hey, hey, I was. Nine hundred thousand right now I gotTa have like twenty. Eight. Mansion. I'm not lying we appreciate you and thank you. All right. BEHALF OF ENTIRE? Teams. And we will see you on the next goal. Supreme is the production of iheartradio. For, more podcast for my heart radio, visit the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. My name is sugar from questions supreme, and you know what I'm all about I'm all about this. CBD MD and I cannot wait to rub it all over my body. If you're like me, you WanNa stay at the top of your game. 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This Week in Marketing News (April 17th, 2020)

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28:39 min | 1 year ago

This Week in Marketing News (April 17th, 2020)

"Welcome to the show I am fall wicker and I'm Jay Deep Raider and today is April seventeenth and these your top headlines in marketing apologies for the delivery of the last podcast. If you're paying attention, it was released yesterday. But. I'll blame it on Kobe because when in doubt just blame covid nineteen inside man I mean life gets in the way sometimes and that's okay right You know it's okay. I did get on social media to post and I did notice a nice post by by you Mr. Prater about core getting a refresh new ads manager. Yeah. Yeah. So we're not saying like full on new ads manager, not not not full on that. That's that's coming. This is more a redesigns we had to be very careful with this this wording. So of those out there listening marketing. And another this actually came from designers and PM's they were actually more scared to say new. Ads Manager because they were like we'll functionally, we only corrected a couple of things, but this is designed wise. It looks like this this this and this. Goal. So we got a new design. All right. So they actually corrected me I was ready to go all in but So yeah, brand new you'll see it. It's more than just going from red to blue I know in some of our screen shots that's all it looks like but that is a key element. Blue Blue means success financial success. Look at those marketing. That's why like facebook in everybody wants to be blue. So yeah number one not red is the answer. You don't want to be in the. Logo is red ran angry but no we we got some new brand colors in there too. So a quick quick update I'll give you some quick functionality. 'cause I know you guys all out there really care about this two main things that I want to call out that we're like everyone hated. Campaign name titles are no longer truncated. They are now wrapped you now see the full campaign name. I, know such a small things such a small thing, but it's huge next thing the calendar widget we actually have a calendar now for the date picker is now you can go in select the date range that you're looking for rather than our previous version, which was just like yesterday seven day thirty day last week you know it was just like predefined. Now you've got some real ability to get some dates. In there and pick through them some minor updates it's no longer called conversions in. No we're going to be calling those event tracking and so really thinking through very similar to like how facebook and Google earlier doing that as well. So add to cart not really a conversion it is more of a conversion event. So now we're calling events little things, but I think overall you'll find it smoother and faster. This new redesign is also on a new code base. Oh, my Gosh will code Mike Regine. React Oh. Yeah. Getting Fancy but the key to. Hear sorry. Web Node react look at me. Look at me hanging out with the PM some engineers. Don't know any of those things are, but the cool thing is more than anything is. This is allowed for a lot of libraries to be built Paul knows all about libraries being on the PM side. Libraries bill does components components that means features are going to get built faster. That's how that means to you the advertisers. So twenty twenty should be a lot of fun with a lot of fun new features coming out in the ADS manager real headline goal for you guys is we're trying to reduce. The time that you're spending in the court ads manager. So really thinking about the Roi of your time that's it'll be a key component that you'll see in twenty twenty. Do you know where react came from No. Facebook facebook Austin of course. Of course weren't supporting the facebook machine. Of course we are. I have no doubt with our CEO as their first our CEO was their first CTO right so A lot of FACEBOOK DNA in Cora. So no surprise there interesting. He might have built some of the first versions of what became reacted. I don't know. Yeah. Maybe maybe I should actually be good QNA question for all hands maybe I'll try to be really cool and. Smart and get that one in. Just go to learn up the study up on react reactions to become super popular a lot of people use it. So it's not like a weird choice because he knows facebook I I don't know the numbers but as a modern solution. A framework I think it's it's probably a top three. So it's not like he's doing something weird but I did notice component looked very familiar I was like looks exactly like twitter's I think. Although. I'm looking at the calendar component. Anyway I'll give it a good product review we went through all of them. We did a lot of competitive analysis with Google facebook we actually really liked snaps ads manager so you'll probably see some more similarities there. So twitter's is in Lincoln's is like Oh run away but. Yeah, facebook copying snapchat. Good idea. Good idea you're waiting him anyway that's right. COFFEE SNAP COPIES NAM. Well, if you haven't checked it out to I was just on, it does look nicer I'm going to chance to actually. With it and go. I don't know we have to. Edit or campaign so that chance to play with some settings. Yeah. Get in there. Give me some feedback. I will tear it of course. And then publicly humiliate you know. Nice job and also I get a little banner in the product that says welcome to the new Korans manager. So someone didn't listen and branded isn't. There was there was a whole slack threat on that so. If you're not in a big company and coordinating between Product Marketing Engineering is like it's sales. It's like an adventure because everybody wants something different and then half the time on like when you were about to deploy something like a big release trying to line it all up. So like the release notes say the same thing as the in product help says the same thing as the talking points that the CEO uses in the press like a job in itself and it's small companies you whatever no one cares. But big companies like you gotta get it right Your cmo usually yell at you if you call thing the wrong thing and. Okay. So let's talk about some headlines. one is very relevant to podcasts. So I've stopped listening to as much a pivot, our favorite podcast, but I have been going for runs in the morning and listening to pivot run for three hours a day so. podcasting usage overall is down. So ten percent drop in the number of downloads of podcasts however. The advertising podcast is going up. So people who are booking podcasts as like some of the big agencies. And some of the big platforms are reporting growth. Despite obviously almost nobody's reporting growth quarter except for for podcasting so. Yeah. I. I'm interested in this one, right There were some really good points in this article I thought it was kind of cool to see. One. Thing that I did like was ziprecruiter has paused. So thank you ziprecruiter I'm like you're everywhere on every podcast that I'm listening to. So for pausing like makes me very happy but some categories. Really Pause. Travel. Yes or if you're. Restaurants, anything where you you're obviously not doing any business I think they pause. But overall because they're actually saying it's a good time to do brand advertising because you're not gonNA get transactions. So go do some brand yeah, and I think to. To that point with podcast and brand is the ability to update. Your messaging is much quicker using podcast than it is you know with content collateral video, it might be already out there to where a lot of times in podcast you're actually are just submitting your audio file and it's dynamically being inserted if they've depending on what kind of platform they're using. So it's actually pretty easy just to upload a whole new file and is being spread out They might be making very specific type of files for specific podcasts at they're big enough. But at the end of the day, it's pretty easy just to kind of change some words around especially when it's Thirty seconds maybe sixty seconds for net. And probably you know if you think of I've said this on the podcast before but I think it was Rupert Murdoch somebody you know one of those legendary business people whose controversial. Said media's don't die they evolve podcasting is just the evolution of radio you're sitting there listening to audio it's pretty much radio. And if used to do radio ads, you can never do this. You can never be like, Hey, let's wipe out our creative to be reflective of the pandemic 'cause you book to. X number of days you've already sent to the stations. They're running it. So this is also a good time for companies like spotify Pandora folks who are trying to I heart radio we're trying to own this podcast space to show radio advertisers. podcasting is a better entry point advertising. So that one day they could then go like tig over the radio stations rather than the other way around to. All. Right. Let's also talk about someone. We don't usually talk about read it. We have talked about twitter facebook, Google all rolling out regulations around covid related items and political ads because November elections are right around the corner. which might be another bright spot. Silver lining of the coronavirus is that we have not been just consumed with political ads and nonstop. News Cycle on politics so That's good or bad but. It's amazing that the election is only a few months out. It's April now. So it made you enjoy. Seven months out normally at this point, you'd be just inundated with political advertising. Anyway. So red announced that they're also doing some stuff to make political ads more clearly. More. Clearly indicate political ads. I'm I'm actually a fan of this. Again you either ban like core we just banned it completely give guide. facebook kind of just. All over the place but there updates google taking some action but. I actually think this is. You're gonNA, allow it. This I think is at least thoughtful roll out of what they did. obviously a couple of things that are interesting is like how they're defining them. So as to be related to campaigns and elections they can also solicit donations, ads that promote voting voter registration, but ads promoting political merchandise is interesting issue as an advocacy stuff. You know these are all like fine some things that I thought. Were kind of cool. Is this a holes public disclosure sub? Read it? Did you see this one? Yeah. Yeah you need to. you need to have comments open. Twenty, four hours. Yeah Yeah Yeah Funny but there are also there the sub read it. They will have one post per ad that has already been run with extensive detail in the ended in what does extensive detail look like Paul advertiser name bailing name billings, zip spend impressions Geo targeting. Negative Geo. Targeting targeted sub read. It's negative targeted celebrates interest targeting their ad duration and link to the at. So they're. Spilling the beans on your right like that's that's kind of impressive. It's kind of like facebook has that way you can look at People's ads, right? Forget the name of it. It's become more and more hidden over time but. It must be interesting if you're running political ads like your strategy as a marketer out there for everyone to see here's my targeting. Here's everything. Spending crazy. But you do have to work with their sales team in all ads are manually reviewed so that those two things I think are key things to pick up on. You can't just run out there and start doing this. Speaking manual approval. Here's a weird. To the next story facebook. So right now everybody's working from home. In general. At facebook that is also true soccer just recently posted on facebook that facebook employees will now be working from home through may so the end of so essentially into June and employees are expected to return at earliest June but there are some exceptions and one of the two people he called out as exceptions. One is engineers at work on specific hardware. Assuming that like they can't work at home because they're using some I don't know if if they're physically working on hardware that is like high end and they don't want to buy it for them at home or if they're like soldering connections on racks of servers, because you take it either way either way that make sense, right? You need equipment, you don't have at home. The other is the content reviewers. So the they need the content reviewers onsite. What are they doing? Why Do you have any guests at wise content reviewers should be site I'm guessing it has to do with access to. The information in the computer that they're using to access it I'm guessing they don't want this information to leave the premises. That is my guess on the moderation like the content approval guidelines that type of stuff. My or the pre approved content. Yeah. Maybe I'm guessing there's like a probably some software that they're using that they developed and it's probably a cue based off all this and they don't WanNa. Give you know signing into this unless your on premise that would be my. So. And makes sense they wouldn't want to leak that because if you know the the filter, then you had to beat the filter, which is always the fun game that people play with content but or even just having a journalist looking over your shoulder when this is happening or A. Picture of like some crazy. Right facebook that will never actually be on facebook. Yeah. These ideas. Out To me I was I was thinking it was like for emotional support for. Like realistically I've heard about how terrible these jobs because most of the continent reviewing is not like. This you know trademarked it's like violence death and rape, and the most horrible things you can imagine. So I was thinking maybe they just don't. They WANNA create San of a safe space for people who have to stare at this stuff all day and have they have therapist on staff it's like it's a pretty challenging. So that was my other idea, but we can see. Maybe I'll tweet it if he answers. That's that's actually like it's funny to say tweet at Zach. Right? Like questions I can answer that. That's a good point. I am going to move a different story up since we're talking about facebook. Poll them in Google it's been reported that they're going to have down. Down quarters down years because of Corona virus, specifically, some of those categories that do really well like travel are. Essentially went two zero So they're really gonNA struggle there some record like this is the first time I think either Google or facebook are actually not going to grow. They think so yeah. I. Just not so surprising but for the people who are watching the economy, it's like this is probably not a good sign. Yeah I mean it's one of those things too right like You can't grow forever right that we always know that but. A lot of times they're doing their kind of quarterly guidance that they're giving or annual guidance you know. So people kind of what they're expecting. They're usually like we're going to grow twenty to thirty percent this year right and this year they're saying the probably going to be flat and you're still like, oh, so you're still going to make like sixty, five, billion dollars and a hundred and forty billion. Oh, that's awful. I'M NOT GONNA buy your stock and you're like really come on. I. Get it but still like that's a ton of money. and like Google and facebook in let's say apple specific Microsoft they have search giant war chests of cash that they're pretty insulated against. The economy could stop put on doing for probably months and they could just put everything on PAS pay everybody great salaries and just start back up some folks can't well, either they can't or they don't want to and they're using this kind of cover to say, Hey, we need to do layoffs. So yelp laid off. Employees and then furloughed and other eleven hundred I know Thumb Act I saw something about them laying off. One hundred folks I'm. The news you'll see kind of layoffs throughout and there's a lot of folks saying, yeah, this is just One hundred on under performers you need to get rid of now's like a easy time for everybody to be like it was corona virus. Sorry and employee wasn't me? But I don't know. That's one way of looking at it. For other companies I mean thumb tack literally does you need to find a plumber you need to find a doctor a lawyer it's usually more home improvement stuff but none of that stuff's allowed to happen right now unless it's essential service so you can't actually get a plumber, but you're not supposed to get a landscaper painter or do a home remodel. So their business probably go zero and you know how much is in the war chest for these guys no. One of the things I got from this article too was Circus. Lay Taste. They spent one, hundred, forty, thousand dollars a day. On ads that was in February. Then in March went down to forty thousand dollars a day in April zero that was like. Wow you're spending hundred and forty thousand dollars a day. Right good for you. One. Guy Said All, all last month he ran searches for. Las Vegas hotels and he said it's the first time in history. He's never seen an ad under Las Vegas Hotels because literally. It's just stopped so. We'll see we'll see it does I mean from a health perspective if you've been following the news, there's a lot of talk about we flat curve in many markets, and now you know the healthcare system should be able to handle all the coronavirus cases. They're still be a lot more everybody is still sheltering in place or in quarantine to avoid spreading it further. There's a lot of known still, but it does look like the economy can reopen like people had been saying the summer time and we'll see like do some people are some companies casualties to the coronavirus as well? Yeah I mean. Coronavirus Google said it had taken down fifty million ads at the end of March and that up to eighty percent of the ten million or so bad ads at flagged to daily were corona violence related you know you're like wow. You going after it. So good to see that they are banning them and basically like these predatory ads around. And sanitizers other. Personal equipment. So So some folks who aren't struggling on the flips eiter net flicks doing very well, apple doing very well Disney that you know they launched Disney plus it a very opportune time for them for everybody who's going to be home looking for content and Amazon of course, Amazon prime delivers content and they deliver everything to the world in terms if you're going to go. Get your groceries delivered from a whole foods or you're going to get anything delivered its Amazon. So they're doing doing very well, financially and they actually introduced new features very tactical, but it's worth talking about because Amazon's AD business has been very slow to develop over the years but since they launched it, it's been growing rapidly and. there. You is is pretty simplistic compared to folks like Google, but it looks like they're taking the right steps specifically for product. Targeting. So if you're doing display campaigns, they call them smart display on Amazon. Historically, you can only targeted audience, which is nice. Now, you could talk by product and product category, which is way better on ECOMMERCE platform. So. Everybody pulled their ads back from Google facebook and here's Amazon saying, Hey, by the way, e commerce is booming. So maybe it's time to shift some budget from brand and from lead. Gen over to e Com if you can. They'll do even better. I know. Well, I, mean I say. I still love Amazon still a prime member. But like this I'm not getting my stuff as quick. So, I'll go on there and they're like, Hey. You know what have their name for it essential essential. So it's GonNa take a month and you're like, cool. Go to Walmart go to target because they'll get it to me within the week in. So I've actually made a few purchases that I would have. went to Amazon I and then ultimately bought on target and Walmart because of that. So I hear you like this is a great thing but then the same time as a marketer yes you get that revenue right in there. But then like that brand experience of not getting the product three weeks a month later, that's not that's not a great experience for for any customer. So laid to that, I would just be cautious of. Yet you know it's funny walgreens. So my girlfriend order to prescription from walgreens. Fortunately, it wasn't anything like crazy that she needs but you know just like a normal prescription from like their mail order norm issue, just go to the pharmacy and pick it up Sushi order from order instead because you know stay at home and they said sure five to seven days. And then like a week went by and didn't show up and then she called and like, Oh, it looks like the orders not in the system so much that happens will resubmit five to seven days seven days go by. Another week goes by she calls him again. Another song and dance. We've been really busy because corona virus. It might be better to go to your local branch but I, let me see if I can expedite it. Does that. Okay we can expedite at Tuesday then called. US. Literally today just me Griping about them but. And says Oh you know it's not covered by your insurance. and. She's like. Well, walgreens has been like fulfilling this for a long time Bringing it up because of your point like so it's a really bad customer experience. Maybe it's because Covid, which, of course, if they're delivering critical medication to millions of people like that's more important but their infrastructure their ability to communicate that didn't leave thinking like, Oh, well, they're trying their best on covert. That's more important. It's just like, wow, they're grossly incompetent and can't handle. 'em Weren't able to communicate this like we both said if they would have just not set an email saying you'll get it and five to seven days winstead say we're overwhelmed it would be best to go to your store that's no problem but instead it took like four weeks and five phone call so. rant terrible but. It's terrible that you know if you take this whole wartime mindset concept that's been floating around it it's like, of course, if you're in the crisis I understand priorities, but you still need to communicate otherwise you're going. After this is over, you're GONNA do damage to rebrand one hundred percent a hundred percent especially whenever you're ordering stuff online and you accidentally ship it to your old address I. Mean. It's just a terrible experience that I'm that I'm working right now. All right we got her. Legacy companies way and you know if you're there I'm sure it's impossible to to change these types of things in the short term so like. You know I'm sure they're so overwhelmed and they're like what needs to update the automated email that goes out when someone order in there like that will take us three months to change because they're big old slow company so I get it, but it's still not good enough this day and age. All right. Let's be more cheery. AMAS. Well, this is still Amazon because it was on twitch and a lot of that money that is getting diverted from places like going to facebook is going to eat sports and Amazon is like. Their twitch product is one of the largest places to livestream east boards and one brand specifically. BMW made a big deal about how they're going to be spending a small fortune on east sports to try to target the next generation of drivers and they're taking that budget away from live sports. And and other places but and the fact that like sports are basically on hold certainly didn't help and I'm sure BMW had a strategy percolating but I'm guessing this pandemic and the absence of live sports kind of push them to make this decision one, hundred percent as our friend. Professor Scott Galloway said Krono viruses just accelerating the future and I think to that point BMW has said in this article to the younger generation being born digital. I doesn't really care about TV or traditional advertising. East sports is our tool to reach them and I think that's a hundred percent spot on. So I say good good good like when you see you when you think of BMW, think of these kind of bigger companies and like how they could be slow to move in how they could be you know lots of meetings pivoting here doing this doing that and to see a big company like them be able to come out You know see what's happening in the market had that situational awareness and then Kinda like know what channels to to run to like. Good. Job Like. Whoever the marketing team is like thumbs up. Well. Let me be not as positive? You're trying to be all good job marketing team I. Agree. The only thing is it's actually late if you're very late to the game on sports so like the. World Championship final of one of the Games that they plan sports attracted an audience of one, hundred million viewers, which is more than the last super bowl. So it took a super bowl level event before people started switching their budgets over and that. That's not new. They've been doing the sixty year. They've been doing this event and to be fair in this article said, BMW started kind of dipping their toes back in two thousand seventeen. But the folks who were early movers on this and got sponsorship bought teams I mean it's now I don't think it was in this article but something I was reading about someone had a chance to buy a team for two million and now that team to be the sponsor something like twenty, five, million in like. A few years. So it's pretty crazy and the numbers are huge like a I. Forget I think it's like five X.. Box Office. So we do the numbers of revenue generated from it out of control. So. If you're a marketer, it's probably a good time to brush up on it. You have some free probably not doing facebook Google checkout twitch, and then take a look at twitch advertising and see if it's something you can play around with. My Yeah I mean it looks pretty cheap to reach that many people comparatively right so. A man I would I would go all in on this effect. Good. 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10:42 min | 1 year ago

Gardening in Industry 4.0.

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NutriMedical Report

59:50 min | 2 years ago

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It was done for the key locations. -ociety upper Canada and it basically replaces people going fry vacations and something people continue for much years, because basically, we're sending heavy metals and inflammatory molecules like home, assisting. We're having our blood thick we having cholesterol, oxidized and fatty acids, which when a macro fashion, some, they die, informa- foam sellin secrete plight. Why can't wanted to? So let's go through the seven hundred just components and kind of expand on them why this women of soap he I take four capsules twice today. If -sential if you want to have good circulation, even if you don't have hypertension, you might have bad profusion, if not to your brain or other solitary, you might have to your feet if you're diabetic, for example, this will protect you from losing your toes and feet. And so, let's go sweets. Diversified tax in from the leaf and flower in the knockout formulas, which, by the way, please don't get their extended vite strokes heart drops in heart, and body tried to steal the formula these around part of the planet from the wrong continent, and the wrong formula, and they do not test. Like we do every batch, make sure the bio-molecules chromatography already narrow range of violence molecule concentration. So it has its biological, just like a drug has to be the right concentration, but you want natural molecules, which won't have side effects. So the first one by Texans from leaf and flower of the. The not what is a cardio tonic helps your heart and lung vessels contract next one is age, garlic, which has number fix, it blocks, engine Timpson converting enzyme, which you can use produced actually make your blood pressure go out and make your heart work harder. Also, blocks and kills bacteria, which infect, your artery walls, along with viruses, like f- seen virus, etc. Next is. Next component is the builder. Bill raises fall dialyzers Landy, oxen ours. We have a protocol H two plex, the gets rid of single oxygen. What the what the Bellary does the free radical grabber, get grab a single oxygen proxy radical so dialyzers go through all your solid organs, your brain, heart, liver, kidneys, because it's so tiny look through the cell wall. Next component. Component is the day. Co kinko's going to reduce blood viscosity, which is why the Canadian any state decide to re remove it from the original formula. You'd find those rights like no stop in two days before you have major surgery or dental surgery. But it will reduce your blood viscosity, so you're gonna flow more like water the maple syrup in Canada or corn. Syrup in America. If you're bud stick, your heart and blood vessels, going to work like hell, and you're not gonna have as good perfusion Christ Christ it's Ellis, which is German, is you taught me means of perfusion, as king, now the Chinese medicine has a number of technology measurement profusion, the best test is called the Endo patron does tests to competing technologies. But the research institute in Israel, and the end of patent index, I'm going to post a link, so people can just go to shop byproducts and actually pull the link up and find a doctor in area of the country or outside the country that can do the test in Canada Europe. But these test accurate non vase of just put a cuff on your arm. Look, temperature blood flow of your fingertips next component. Then we have the kind. Kind is going to released nitric oxide. We have three gas system in our body carbon dioxide oxygen. Nitric oxide without nitric oxide. Hemoglobin molecule can't release oxygen to your tissue really important, lex vote. Then we have the milk Thistle says, stimulate detox, if you like Sherry Rogers said, if you don't do talks by your dying. Toxins, actually, fry Yari walls, whether it's gluten in your foods or phosphates, or you know. You know, all kinds of bad stuff that can be in your, your died from toxic sludge, like like. Pesticides, and so on, if you don't do talks FAI, you're actually cooking artery walls. Next component is Valerian, right. Correct. Yeah. Valeri is going to balance your Nubian system in your on never never system. All of us to some extent, or other Jim by stress. I mean when you wake up, you buy the blue light the blue light wakes up your brain your stress hormones go up for action. It's called fighter flight side of your of your body when you're sleeping like stage four sleep, your pear civic, if you don't move your body, generally toward parasitic. He can't heal so turns off pain. Turns off inflammation lowers your stress hormones lowers things drag your heart pump harder for blood pressure, and so on. So very important component. Now. I'm gonna talk about some of the things that give along with the cardiovasc- number one. I recommend supreme pro Armani glitz, right? Four hundred percent more absorbed, recognizing license, and most tolerated magnesium recommend vascular care carnitine. I recommend all the dachshund sell the talks. The H two plex ultra Simon be one. And gimme plus, the plus could shoot a Nitra proxy, the H duplex tusk rid hydra proxy. And the Carters de link neutral and the. Ultra time. It'd be one with transferred lazy its roosting oxygen really big deal because the thing that Cates proteins. To serger is not just the fact the F sugar there has to be free radicals any big deal. It's important, also understand that vascular disease. You have unsterile arteries, so we use our Angie pass jacks. I recommend everybody takes mall. Those neutral dying every day. Ten jobs. I recommend everybody take at least a capsule of Allison met today. You can take if you're concerned about second also Neutra defense, viral caps of all, viruses, because we even though the cancer, you can measure. You know, the receptor of virus engine triggered off actually shows up in the cancer self. And in the vessel's, gene changes so vascular disease is not a sterile environment. You need reduce blood, the Scots ity, you need to reduce homocysteine. I usually recommend for that vial VR and Samantha and parcel, b twelve and super Foley. We vote methylation past weeks. You can't only make amino acids in the neuro transmitters and your brain reverse depression. You can't make digestive enzymes my on that your brain, remove heavy metals, and chemicals out of your body. So Samantha, I usually take sachet twice a day is fantastic for removing heavy metals and lowering home assisting that can fry artery walls, very, very problem. And the problem is the regular doctors don't know if you don't take five hundred thousand milligrams of, of alma thion in powder tonight before you do the test in your blood test. You may not pick up two thirds of the people that actually have a problem. Interesting. So let's see. The other thing understand, is that vascular disease underlies other problems. For example, if cancer type box asset condition, so you want outlaws your body to so recommended power seat, plus at least four capsules twice a day. That's what I take. Now, if you have cancer, we want you to take twelve capsules four times a day, it turns off, I don't mean disease, inflammation immediately. And by the way, the cardiovasc- formula just by itself. A lower people's blood pressure. I have tons of people say, I can't afford all your stuff doc, but I can take cardiovasc-. Well, take vascular Vegas supreme pro and make these place. They that's all you can take maybe the bio Alvear to help your body get twelve and fully seeking remove home assistance, cooking early walls. You don't take all the layers, you know, I go all the way because I, personally, take that because if I don't take all those things, I know that I'd probably under these stress of what I do every and telemarketing and research, I would probably develop some pretty significant problems. So it's important understand that. You don't need to suffer. You just need to take our nutraceutical. You're pretty familiar with her and interested in too. Right. So we have things for cancer. Light Melinda balk and, and. And logic acid. We have things to help to knuckled viruses, and your body likes Neutra silver. We have things improved function, which by the way to the way to your heart as might economy, lists of, when I forgot might a condo panelist, and the ancient sports, energy light, because you wanna raise ATP age, but your heart is, basically might account you. It's a folded tube with valves in it, but it's basically a giant chunk of minor Kanji, two-thirds records way to your heart is actually just might a county isn't that amazing? And same thing that the Bedia layer of your arteries. It's all khanjian. Your h site and hurt has half a million to two million roughly. Conju in the largest selling your body, which is your Kinsey, cylinder Servellon can be three or four million McConnell in one cell, and that amazing. Most people are not aware of the all Dr deals, not that extreme yet. Extreme yet is actually. Those are couple of the other interesting. Now, what test can you do to screen first off, I recommend? We do murnian value labs. Lipid electrophoresis. Look at your fatty acid profile once the omega three six nine one. See if you got budgets, gusty, high second measure signed the kinds of radio labs and Brown rock, Texas. I can look at seventeen TANF l homocysteine that can burn your walls, and so on. We can look at heavy metals up to make sure you have normal minerals. Calcium magnesium potassium copper zinc and all the other things you need to protect yourself and Melinda them without belived invite way you can't read now only your neurotransmitters in your brain. But you also get talks find get rid of home, assisting really important stuff. Vein way. There's another one for the heart is. And research shows that it reduces vascular disease in your I your your your veins. It actually will stop varicose vein problems. And we have that, for example, in their vision problems, we vision, max and vein away. And then, of course, the other anti-oxidants we've recommended. It's you know, we put these together comes the palette of colors to, to paint the future of your healthy body. Some people just say all I want is best, well, that's not enough. You probably need to take, at least the omega supreme pro and perhaps the made these glaze fate, but you need to take anti inflammatory fatty acids. Take things to help your body, given home assisting dailies take by wealthier. It has actually to be six peach Elvin fully, so a lot of people are pre diabetic, people don't realize diabetes, the top end, we're venture you over company. Ability, the by the compensate of that's why some of these new insulin drugs now, just kind of make your pain Chris work harder. So you put it or they're a long acting insulin form, that they give you what you want is, you want your body to lower insulin resistant in your Speedo muscle where most of the diabetes starts, and then later when it gets sold organs, like your liver, and kidneys you get kidney liver problems. Fatty liver. And if he gets to your brain, you get dementia, dimensions, basically insulin resistance of your Astra sites, and your brain. Is that interesting? They don't approach that way. They don't say, diabetes brain cells psych. Why not because they're not scientists and they're not chemists and not functional medicine. Doctors in if you measure, someone fasting or insulin glucose tolerance, missionary seem tiny measure their blue close after load. You'll see that four or five decades before someone turns frankly diabetic, they've had was levels because taller says the thirty forty years before the turn diabetic, but they're gonna develop hypertension. They're going to develop things like heart failure. They're going to develop vascular disease as increased home assisting increase Oxy of stress artery walls, like eating proteins. And that's why our anti-oxidants for each two plex and sell detects ultra sign wind. Gimme plus, it's so important part apart. My doctor doesn't know what your doctor know spot. The problem is the level of ignorance militaire is mind boggling, you're familiar with that you. The average doctor US Canada, any, any nation basic benefits Russia, whatever, it's only a tiny tiny minority like one tenth of one percent that actually have clued are scientists first before their healers. A scientists, I I want tests. I want someone says, I think I've heard disease. I wanna high-speed C T scattered your heart. I live for Kelsey patient obey skin percent of your arteries, and I wanna Cardi light scan which is more accurate than even treadmill. Test. Coronary if you have coronaries that don't want you to get a bypass, I way for ECP extra corporal, counterpole, sation cardiac investigator, peptides, which we can get from Europe. My nutraceutical. You'll read grow arteries and use. Photon new cyber technology and building. We have Janek frequency treatment, you'll grow new arteries. I've had people we feed over less years. 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Lear coming back with one of my favorite people Rebecca star price. And Rebecca the you have amazing website. You have lots of talent. Multitalented R, M E, X dot com, Rome, picks dot com. You're an expert, your expert photographer, your floral, designer you have mazing books that are really popular some pretty top people purchase them, and you have a travel blog currently bog Estrella I think you may be of additional minor, pay per view things in future. Tell us about what you do and all the different talents. Use in order to help people to Rome picks dot com your own social media site is well, don't you? Right. I just I Italy twenty years ago, and with Europe and I always loved her history. And of course, when you go to and Lee, and France and places like that. They have the best of the best games in the world and just beautiful and scape architecture everything very inspired. And so I just want to capture the UAE and history through architecture and art and people watching and everything, you know, cap, she's my lunch and then brought back here to encourage people to see for themselves. You know, abroad, basically, and see, you know, why this apart so important, you know, sponsored Moreau, guard romantic art, why it's so important. So timeless. As part of the process of keeping us human, doesn't it? So what's the name of your book, and how much is it? And how do they purchase it from Rome picks, you know and purchase the book here? Rate at your shop as well. Right. The front page pick. Chasing deviant, Italy, and twenty years of. Awesome beaten path travel and also visiting some of the most famous places in Italy that one would wanna visit first second or third time. So it's, it's a combination whether you're visiting for the first time or you are visiting for you know, the time or maybe you have, like want to have an armchair experience of, of a place that maybe as always been romantic, tune your mind, I've visited, you know, the, the scenes in Florence where you can follow this put steps of, of characters and classic literature and movies, you know, like the merchant ivory films of lady, like the world with you could really retrace the steps of those beautiful movies that made, you know, millions of people fall in love with the idea of Italy. Pictures recommendations and, and to, like, you know, the most romantic have saying real or the best place, Enid may goals, or, you know, there are a lot of different things. It's not appear guidebook, because there are a lot of literary using just about, what makes Italy so magical, what makes it different. Enough where you can actually go and capture these romantic memories that I've written about you can go and capture for yourself. You can go and take the photographs and can go and drink the wine, drink the coffee, Vince museums and. So it's a little bit of a travel memoir and guide with a lot of beautiful pictures. You got. Of course, you've inches on your first time rain website. You've got a photography section at the middle their view the photography of photos more than one photograph that you have posted up there. What's what's the story? I, I have a lot of. I have a lot of different of gallery, depending on what area you want to look at Renzo and the naval area 'cause they beatable island, comprehending, Salerno, Rome, Florence than it, you know, all the all the all these major vase of Italy that most people have found to be the most beautiful most interesting. Visit so, yeah, I just tried to capture different sides of, of this place over the last twenty years, and I've shot shooting digital, but I mostly shoot in using arts film. So that's also, you know, a law, ours, that not a lot of people practicing more. But because you really can't get the same beauty of tone and color, and digital that you that you can get in film. So I've dedicated myself to still being filmed photographer. That's cool. So, in other words, you do sell photography, which is cool snacks. I see what the link there. It's really, really neat. What you've done. You've actually captured motion and the end and light, which I think, in film, you, can you can capture right? Right. And just this the color of colors, and the tone are, are very fun. And, and I have all felt that was with, with one of the vents total lab in the country out in California and may do they, they develop all the films and the old analog way. So they still use all the great chemicals and everything. There was the, the color, you know, really captures the spirit of a place and because Italy's timeless than ancient place. Wanna have that feeling of, of, of Italy? Yesteryears. It's been. Sped really specialized on Italy. But there's there are the culture there is very unique because the Roman empire lasted so long. And of course, the cat from many other places to the pre existing empires beforehand. Your book is really popular. I mean you've had some pretty high level people. I'm not going to mention their names that have gotten your book you consoled by people who wanted to tourism of Italy, or people that are filming say movie makers going daily to bring the culture anybody context regarding that. Yes, I get a lot of requests for people to take on Twitter, so perhaps near control tried to arrange something like that. And I've had I've heard millions of hits and people from all walks of life, even still makers who have asked me questions about certain places, and the history behind the certain areas, like, especially really beautifully steadied places that, that people are interested in shooting, you know, four to make their films look, gorgeous. And so, yeah, I've had a lot of different interesting people. So michael. Fyle of the regular life may people interested in it. I think it'll because it only as a place that just conjures of cinematic images. And, you know, people think of offer music, people think of romantic dinners, people think of maybe their ancestry. I mean, there's all sorts of things that I think in just kind of speaks of people, so like a symbol of passion. So I think a lot of people are still in chanted with your idea of Italy, and sort of taken the place of Paris in the sense as being an even moon romantic place, you know, more colorful than than even Paris, now the city of lung. But I think that it has kind of gone beyond that, but that's the thing with Italy that you can't get in a lot of places that there's so many concentrated areas where you could just walk in the steps Caesar of all these IRS, you know, you can see ruins you can see civilization that's been houses years. But then living thriving populations down still gear. That's incredible. Look like you turn all city. Round series, which is you so funny until she's our Tissot, but not like you. You're amazing. But she was really going to turn it. And of course, of course, theat is there, you've got the, the, the, you know, the burial wraps of Jesus, or they're in the turn museum, but everywhere it's there's so many different subcultures in Italy, it's like a bunch of micro, micro countries. Isn't it? Yeah. The last time I was in Italy. I went to Salerno to pace them, and it's really really teeth into southern Italy, takes a long time to get there. But he was a Greek colony that existent before Rome was ever Bill. That's all that is. But they were all Greek. They lived in Italy. But they were a total Greek colony. Yeah, it's fascinating. So they leave their Greek culture behind then and then you go further up up to move back toward the mainland. And you see, you know, the, the, the really the really mixed culture of Pompeii how, you know, you can go and you go to an ISIS temple, then you can go to DNA pencil. And then you need to know all the temple Safina's temple to Apollo. In the ruins of you wanna visit there soon because I heard that the that the that vocab get lax again. Now here's what I'm gonna go and services you provide you provide photography professional photography, and you've probably in the future doing some guided, tours you have your book, which they can purchase. You also have a ability work for flora walls box wall walls, fluoro- letters, furlough arrangements, and these can be done in Lonzo Compal, and you can actually have the setup. So these are like permanent. These are cool, aren't you? They're really they're really the most beautiful, but easy to, to manage kind of instant decor, that you can best portable that just makes weddings look so romantic engagement party birthday parties, the corporate events, and the, the flowers that are made now, I make them all by hand the board and the slot flora letters, but the flowers that are now are so good at they look real. They they've been just their incredible too. Flower. They'll they look in the last few years, so they, they keep enshrined your wedding, or your graduation, or your special ceremony or celebration, and I see this time to be too. So I just give the option of including a passage like I'll the wedding. I'll the events and you wanna flower wall I or out of money and I do custom ones as well. And what's really great, I use the ones that'll last so nothing will be, but then the day of the event, I always add really rare fresh bloom along the wall, so that you will see fresh ones there to that just for the day that talks about. Flower, walls and floral ranges anywhere in the world, too, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know the smaller ones for core. People's office, home, offices, and living rooms and bedrooms and stuff, people use them as headboard now, and very easy ship. And, and then for the for the very large, like, the ten by ten the twenty twenty I, I have to have to deliver in person, but. Official packing special delivery. So right now, when you do for views, official technology, Tuesday, you do film, photography and video, as well as digital. What makes? What makes Camry when you can't you're a much better and Richard photograph for digital the best of the best kind of system that they can use an it mimics film photography someone terms of the old really good high and cameras. So now I do have some very special lenses and camera cameras said some that just the pictures are on believable. They said, they're so principally and sharp and they really just have sure, you know, the warm glow of sunset. Right. When people are no toast nature. Other before they spend the rest of their life together. I mean it's just they're just there's a lot of great technology out there now and and season for weddings and party. Gets more than your camera. Kate Kim catch more than the than the human, I say. Really, it really looks more romantic in a photo, somehow, you know, just the right setting it captors include in it off the feeling. Do. Rebecca start prices. Amazing sight in her services. If you want to enrich, your life with art. This is the place to go Rome picks RO every PIX dot com, Rome dot com. Thank you. Rebecca did an amazing job today. We'll have you back next talk some more, with this take care. Thank you. That were relevant.

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Jacob Teitelbaum, MD -- From Fatigued to Fantastic Pt2

"Taste this parade laughing singing. Answer those right to heart but delivers the bid. A welcome to the rating house. Show with dr christine. Horner your source of information that will help you to achieve extraordinary health and longevity where each week we bring you a fascinating interview with the leader in natural health from practitioners inch systems of medicine such as traditional chinese medicine and veda to experts and the latest frontiers of complementary alternative medicine. You'll be entertained and mesmerized by my guests learning many tips on how you can reach an joy and extraordinary feat of health simply and naturally. I'm your host factor christine corner a former surgeon an expert in natural health and the author of two award winning books. The first waking the warrior got us dr christine hundred program to protect against and fight breast cancer and my most recent book which is radiant health as a beauty thirty day program for extrordinary health beauty and longevity guest today. Dr jacob title bomb He is a board certified internist and the author of numerous books including recent edition of his Award winning book called fatigue to to fantastic is also written a whole series of other books from sugar addiction to pain and as an expert in fiber myalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome. So this is actually the Second part of Cheap part interview last week. We talked About his program for Helping people with Chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. And we're going to pick up in that conversation and also include some information about Timely information about cove it and then kinda the post viral Symptoms that we're seeing without so Dr teitelbaum thinks much for being on my show. Can't today christine great to be with you. Okay so Last week we talked about Chronic fatigue syndrome fibromyalgia and part of the program that you used For helping people to heal from it and you did mention. I incredible statistic i thought and that was that You have you know research on this showing that your program approach is something that can lead to ninety percent Over ninety percent of people experiencing in a really significant improvement. So i think that's really wonderful particularly for these people that really suffer with chronic fatigue and cyber myalgia. 'cause i As i mentioned last week it's like boy. I know some people and they've just been so frustrated and suffering. You know so much so. It's just like amazing that you have a really effective program to help those people out So right now Obviously we're dealing with kovic and we've had all sorts reports about people that Are having kind of post. Cova d- symptoms that can go on and on and on You know from cardiac issues too. Obviously fatigue and that kind of thing so I know those people are really interested in seeing what they can do. Can we talk a little bit about that. Like what are the symptoms that were generally saying and then You know from your recommendations for people to improve those symptoms absolutely a postcode or which is another form of post viral. Chronic fatigue syndrome is very treatable as you noted my Randomized double blind control. Study showed that ninety one percent of people can improve an average ninety percent increase in quality of life. So these things are very very very treatable. Unless you go to your regular doctor who says. I don't know song this year crazy then gives you a diagnosis of depression or something But the research shows that they are very treatable. problem is lack of physicians. Understanding. so just. Let's start with a little bit of context with the covert because right now The media mantra on both sides seems to be to scare people to death and making payments other it's becoming and the culprit is being used as a proxy for the political campaign has been become highly politicized and the degree of misinformation in the media. Can to the research a science geek. And i will look at the data will tear the data part. See what shows and when you look out it's a little context here Media's treating covert like it's a plague it is not a plague. The plague killed one half of the population When we went to europe. Spanish flu even killed one point. Three percent Covert is killed about one and fifteen hundred americans and one and one hundred i every year. So that's a little bit of perspective can be very helpful. The media will also talk about whatever it is that gets them advertising. God bless them. Nice people but if you look the companies that advertise heavily with them Like the company that makes them does severe. You'll see you know. Oh my gods everybody should be under up. Does a very the whole thing Even though world health organization study that came out yesterday showed that can help but the media will largely ignore that and focus on the things that will get them more the flip side of that is they have learned drug companies. Give them more advertising if they either ignore or most importantly if they say. Negative things about natural therapies I know a lot of the publishers of major national magazines and they told me about some of the advertising contracts from the drug companies include clauses like there will be nothing positive about natural therapies and this issue requirement for them to get the drug out. So that's why you see the media will often either in cova The research shows that simply having optimal vitamin d and zinc and vitamin k and vitamin c are associated with probably seventy five percent. Lower risk of death more profoundly Effective than any medication. That's out there. Even dr fauci as noted that he'd takes vitamin d himself because of the covid Dot the media will ignore that information so number. One are simple things you can. Do that can decrease your risk of getting and certainly dying or having severe covid And what i do myself is. I take good multivitamin I like the energy revitalization system vitamin powder also cynical essentials. If you're just like a tablet for him and we'll take something called viral pro v. i r. Apr one a day. Those simple things will supply optimal levels of zinc k. And see Needed to really protect your body. So that just sailed right through the covid Epidemic or pandemic without a problem But again the media doesn't talk about those. They will lose pharmaceutical hundred housing. If they do you know it's tragic. They actually started. I mean amazingly there was discussions about it Vitamin d particular vitamin c. And then it just seemed like it stopped right and they own the airwaves and and the media which is just criminalising Spurs getting get information out to people Anything else that you recommend as far as helping to minimize the risk or the get good sleep because the optimizes immune function a lop And stay hydrated and turn off the news because it has misinformation in the last episode. You talked about how the virus in the context of severe stress is what triggers opposed fire chronic fatigue syndrome. And the stuff onto me media. Again it is meant to scare you to death not to inform you it is misinformation turned off. Could get advice okay. So let's say that somebody does get covered and they survive it but then You know we're finding out about A whole myriad of Symptoms that potentially can last for months and months afterwards and even You know. I had steve sinatra. I show Almost ago talking about you know cardiac problems afterwards. And so forth so Like what are we seeing predominantly We're getting these symptoms are hanging on with the coast cova and then What are some of your recommendations to walk people through that. We're seeing that a three months. Forty four percent of people. How persistent symptoms of fatigue aching insomnia headache palpitations shortness of breath. Other simply sometimes Basically most of these are postponed rule fatigue. Which as big as dr fauci as these represent post farrell chronic fatigue syndrome That's all it is In most cases so we talked last week about how to go ahead and use the shine protocol because again i had this myself. My mail meghan left me homeless when i post fire o'connor kind of critique syndrome the shine protocol will help you recover and So optimizing sleep hormones addressing a wide array of infections and then giving nutritional support The main things nutritional support there's vitamin powder called the energy revitalization system. We're wondering who places about fifty pills is a really good foundation i will add The coenzyme q ten i like. There's chewable coenzyme q ten made by terry. Naturally that has eight times. The absorbed some that is very helpful for people The smart energy system is a mix of six herbs and nutrients dramatic energy whether or not people have you know severe. Even if they have some today fatigue on average people find that it just about doubles energy Less than one minute days. Pretty remarkable And then we just admitted a study for publication of new serum extract called recovery factors comes from europe s new that you're even searching to find out of the website is www dot recovering our seo v. e. r. y. factors fa c. t. o. r. s. in this study percent of people with severe. Cfs and fibromyalgia improved with an average sixty nine percent increase in energy and overall quality of life. So these simple things can really make a massive difference. Usually pretty quickly within one bottle of any of these people will start to see the fat hr g eighty regine cintas. You only use. I get the chewable doubt also Very effective so these are simple things for the nutritional potter shine also decreasing sugar increasing salt intake. If you salt restricted this illness you will crash at bir increasing water and most people find a high protein diet lease feeling better than A high carb diet. But everybody's different that what you so the products that you were talking about or are you just talking about like the energy revitalization ten energy all this things on your website Recovery factors only recovery factors dot com the smarter energy system you can get an amazon or and fatigue dot com. So he lake. Nancy believe david fatigue dot com The eight hundred. Eighty regine sing. I have the capsules. I'm going to get the chewables. They worked better so you can find energy revitalization. That's at you can find out of 'em for t. Dot com okay for not go to the recovery factors dot com for the rest of these things are like powdered or chewable or something. So you're not taking the million towels is what you're seeing a big part of my approaches. You can't have people taking cancelled bills all day so i will look at things where brings down instead of fifty pills us wondering comedian. That's great yeah helps a lot. Yeah okay so then you're saying decrease Sugar the poison and then increase salt intake and water and then do high-protein sunny other. You know kind of nutritional recommendations if you do that to going to be pretty well covered and again. There's no one diet for everybody. Some people find out about dieter gluten and and Dairy fear important for a small but significant subset We'll find out that's important But i start with a simple things in gluten and dairy free a pain but people are not better adequately better six months. I'll help them try Most people don't need to do without but in some people it makes a big difference. A lot of your listeners themselves. Yeah okay and then Exercise of course which is like super important. Just for overall health so What kind of affects do you see in these conditions with exercise. And what specifically do you recommend. Well here's the thing. There's all these studies that were the worst studies over. Don i think Using exercise for fiber mile journey and what they do is they actually worse than people because people with solis help us called post exertion malays where they can only make a certain amount of energy because they're in the middle of an energy crisis and if they pushed beyond out instead of conditioning they crash and burn their bedridden for three days. So it's important to go slowly exercise as able you're doing it mostly just maintain conditioning and that's the purpose behind it So the best thing. If you know some people can barely walk twenty steps in today. A lot of people bound so truly espy taylor. Other people are like call the walking wounded able to go to work but no energy for anything else so see how much you can comfortably work. Will you feel good tired after better the next day and then just aim to do that each day after about eight to ten weeks on the protocol your energy production will be skyrocketing then you can begin conditioning by increasing your walking bunch apps canoes by maybe fifty steps every day or two as is comfortable. What about like yoga. 'cause i always you know hear that that's good for people that are having pain issues. Is that something you recommend to. You is a small word for very wide area of different things so there are many kinds of yoga and the yogurt be very helpful. One for conditioning Also w- when you have. Low energy muscles were deadlocked in the short and position hurt so people the fiber miles out so much pain. It begins with the muscles getting stuck with the shortened position than they hurt dente. Chronic pain will trigger brain pain or central sensitization thousand trigger. Small fiber neuropathy and stuff in kinds of fibro pain. So yoga can be very very important again. Find one that feels comfortable to you or feels good tired after and better the next day. But don't do wonder why child total sense now. One of my first introductions to someone with fibromyalgia was that She'd been Assaulted like in a parking lot. And then after that She developed fibromyalgia and so they I know they were working with her. With like I don't you've probably heard of e. m. d. r. that i movement associated and free programming. You know to for people that have post traumatic stress syndrome so Earlier you had mentioned that Stress you know something that Seems like plays a huge role in The development of these conditions so What do you recommend for people that have experienced these traumas and emotional issues the the mind body spirit things very very important and we talked about how. It's the context of severe stress. And this could be childhood abuse issues that are finding coming to surface. It could be being in a toxic relationship. That's abusive work or home. There being sexually assaulted an even number of triggers can do that Psychiatric or psychological. Counseling will get you about ten percent of the way back but it won't address the other ninety percent because you have to deal with the sec spiritual things on multiple levels so the talk therapy Counseling to help adopt those things so nice but they only take a little way Then you have to release emotional energy of the trauma. That's a very different thing. The mdr's one very effective way of doing that. And other ways called emotional freedom technique and people have tried either. These had the experience. Where like the counselor will help them. Hold the feeling of that trauma While going through the md are on the tapping of the emotional freedom technique and twenty minutes later. A two minutes later often up stress trauma disappears. Legs into grounded has gone emmanuel. You'll hear people giggling in the other room had ptsd because we're to go so these can be very helpful but again they'll take you about another twenty five percent Then you have the muscle memory. And there's a simple technique called trembling. The book called waking the tiger by dr peter levin short simple old book cheap. Easy easy easy to do When you fine. Sometimes that there's a feeling like a need to tremble now. Most people in the have doubt they feel stupid trembling and berry and animals notes naturally if animals hunted and escapes what. You'll see a soon as safe. Throwing kinda be trembling and shaking off. You watch enough nature movies. You'll see that. That's how it lisa's emotional energy At a whole 'nother level at the basically the it's sympathetic blah blah blah but it's important to release Humans expressing shake it off. That's where it comes from so when you're by yourself If you get this feeling like you want to tremble let happen when you do that. That role released wave after wave But for more severe ptsd things. There's a technique called the dynamic d'oro retraining system by anti harper. It's about two hundred sixty dollars. Dvd's books that you can get it online Follow the directions for about an hour a day. Make that commitment and our day that they're going to do it Out about eight weeks. Eight to ten weeks You start to see dramatic and seventy percent of cases We've seen people who were near bed bound and nothing could help them. Ten reese later feeling fine. This is the dynamic neural retraining program. So when i'm looking at the key things that i'm using people with fibro that have a very high percents Response rate it's the recovery factors smart energy system and the dynamic neural retaining system There are many others like little on the rest up at those things that people can do on their own that can be very very important for recovery with ptsd and maybe beyond the scope of the show. But there's a good bit of research looking at things like intravenous cattleman and even giving 'em dma which is on the street is lexi Colleague of mine scott shannon who's Psychiatrist is doing a study now against the government allowed and regulated study using both of these n people. Ptsd he's finding to be more effective in those cases 'cause he's familiar with the other things i don't know if he knows about the dynamic retaining system but he's seeing dramatically sponsor. Ptsd using these treatments as well Family is that's what's mushroom says. No ecstasy name for ecstasy okay. 'cause i saw you know stuff on the you know the mushrooms So often were they. Were doing that too for people that had all sorts of you know mental issues and they just do it once and they would be like. Miraculously you know better. All these things can take people out of the shelves that they got blocked to And help them get back themselves But the thing is that doing that on their own. It's very difficult to tell somebody. Go take an acid or live on a mushrooms and he does indeed babysitting for that so Where the other ones again it done. It can be used. In a doctor's office cattleman can be prescribed for most people. It's not too because drug company said. Okay we'll put a no in charge. You eight hundred dollars a dose. And how can you afford that because asked me every but it can be made by compounding pharmacy for month five dollars those you know. I think this is really great where it's like you know in the past. We'd always approach things from the physical standpoint. When i was in medical schools like you know we had no recognition that there was any kind of connection between emotions and You know any physical issues. Only you know those people that had peptic ulcer disease seemed a little stressed you know and that was basically and now you know we kind of come to the point where it's like. Wow emotions you know. Play some of the biggest roles and You know various different conditions. And then this one particularly the you know the chronic fatigue fibromyalgia. It sounds like It's it's like this is equally important to everything else. You know that you do as far as nutritionally Addressing these emotional asked him. But that's the case if you'll take a look at the research. Part attacks are associated with a dramatic increase in people who us anxiety or hostility about a more accurate term. So what somebody comes from the intensive care unit cussing chest pain. Am i going to start kansas. Elapsed meditate gone. You know whatever happens to be or am. I going to go ahead and put them in an tons of care unit and give them everything they need. I you take care of the physical components with any illness. Then i got to the psycho spiritual components with andy illness. This is no exception. Yeah and we're so lucky that we have all these different techniques that we can use now that are kind of instantaneous. You know once like you said talk. They're not only ten percent or so but you know there's so many different techniques out there that's just that work like instantaneously that are in our toolbox so that's really wonderful thing Believe it or not we have you know just like a minute left so if you want to go ahead and give you her contact information and websites again tweet people from all over the world. It can't be done by phone so even if you haven't post covid other causes You can go to my website. Vitality one zero one dot com for information of the website and fatigue dot com For products such and for appointments Email sarah out appointments within us at the end at end of fatigue e and lake. Nancy like david would fatigue dot com rate. Thank you so much for being on my show can and just really can't thank you enough for you know the information that you've shared and i mean i just know that there's so someone suffering with us conditions and to actually have something that people can do to You know get better is just a godsend so thank you for all of your work and you know everything that you've done to to help people with this and other issues casino always supposed to beyond with you and with your family out there. Thanks for joining me. On the radio. Health show was dr christine horner. Good health candy order's simply and naturally download my radio show this weekend every week and follow. The advice of my guests are soon. You'll the experiencing radiant health and beauty no matter what your age. Don't forget to check out my website. Dr christine horner dot com and be sure to sign up for my free newsletter. Give me like facebook. Follow me on twitter. 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Building Resilience And Why Teaching Kids About Mental Health Matters Episode 22

She Is A Mess

42:56 min | 1 year ago

Building Resilience And Why Teaching Kids About Mental Health Matters Episode 22

"Hi guys as much as the and welcome to our brand new episode off. She is a mess. This is the show where I help you or try to help you find avoids build your confidence and be bold as heaven in your life because let's face it even though we're all eight total mess in one way are another in that heart of yours lies a powerful message and the world needs to hear it today. I have a great guest who needs no introduction. But I'm GonNa do it anyway. She currently works with and helps a treat suicidal teenagers where she gives them the support they need. What an inspiration to many hi lindsay? Please introduce yourself and tell us. Do you have any ridiculously Outlandish goals for your life. my God I probably about a million I- outlandish goals well Since since I was very young I've wanted to be on a subway and catch someone reading a book that I had written. So that's a good one and and I guess My other outlandish goal is probably one that we all have. which is that? I would like to be able to do everything well and not have to sacrifice in any and I like then. That's not going to happen so well. Abby life is this a bunch I feel like things happen where lyft it is a box of cheerios. Just kind of pick random random ones out and hope that it works out so yeah definitely agree that doughy want to do things. Well perfect mistakes or not have to give up any parts of your life intends to not work out that way but again. That's all the fun of living married. Oh absolutely and I also think you'll never. It's very difficult to predict where your life will end up despite your best intentions exactly exactly. There's one one thing I've learned looking over my life. It's like I never ever imagined my life would get me to her today. But you know what it's been a roller coaster ride and I am super super excited. I don't really want to get off. I understand that all right. Let's see so. Can you bring us back to the beginning of your story. What was your childhood hood-like and where exactly do you grew up? I grew up in a suburb of Florida and it was a well. I was born in New York. My parents moved to Florida In theory my life was pretty ideal on paper My father is a physician my mother Uh uh stay at home mom I have their of US myself and then I have a brother who is four years younger than me. We went to a a a very good private school. In South Florida and on paper we were given every advantage that You could think of. Wow it actually sounds like you had a pretty lifetime not lifetime. What was that movie tobey? Maguire and Kristen Lesin Phil bad pleasant. I know I know I tried to watch it with my kids a few weeks ago. And then it's her job it's not so child-friendly but yeah and I think onto onto the outside. It looks like Oh. Wow we noise really really awesome. It's all perfect. What you're definitely right? It is not child-friendly my brain slipped and I don't know what I was thinking but yeah I know so though your life was pretty ideal on the outside can you you tell us one of the major struggles you had as a child. Sure looking back. There were a lot out of So I'm a huge believer in something called narrative therapy which is basically that the stories that we are told or inherited inherited You know children. And then we sort of ingest them. I guess as in adults there's usually an underlying theme or theory or message The my pants story about me it was. It's adorable in theory. It's the first time hi. My mother went back to work and left me with my father. I was about to and my mother had. Of course. baked chicken and left it in the fridge. Regine given my father explicit instructions on how to take care of me and it hours later my mother came home and the Oh kickin was still there untouched. And when she asked my father he sort of started to laugh and said Oh that makes sense You know I was eating a piece of cheese. She asked for a piece of cheese and then just kept saying more cheese please and so. She ate a package that she is. And it's a funny story except for the fact that you know the underlying message is my father who is a physician. Didn't I think to feed a child for eight hours and you know. And there's there's like this weird neglect there where you think it's so happy until you grow up and look back and you're like wait. That's not that doesn't make sense and who parents like that you know. Yeah don't worry about than themselves so I think that when I got old enough to to think about that story and really understand it was when I thought things were a bit off My mother also tended to do everything and extreme so one day I came home from nursery school and sh- all over our basement. She had drawn different in cartoon characters and then invited all of the neighborhood kids to come over and color them in with paints so that was probably a lot for my a father to come home to and as well I see so how did all of this extremist affect the way you thought about our saw yourself when you were younger I think I would. I know that I was always very insecure i. My mother was unpredictable. I. There are times when she would be twenty thirty minutes late. Picking me up from school and the explanation I was given was that I had been fresh In the morning when really there was no sort of connection it was simply her inability to take responsibility for her Own Mistakes I mean I'm a mother of two children. There are times when I run late and you know I feel badly I apologize I take ownership and I move on. I think I was more insecure as a result of the fact that I I couldn't tell what was my fault and what was not and so. I just sort of assumed most things where my thoughts. That's so tragic. I know that as kids. We kind of don't really understand what our responsibilities are. What our roles are in our life? So you're definitely right that when we are in put into situations where there is someone to blame. We tend to blame ourselves. We don't blame the parents because because our parents are idols their protectors so obviously something goes wrong. Then it must be our fault. So can you tell us one time and when your insecurities got the better off you I will say although although I was I was very insecure. the one one thing that one of the many things my mom did that was very positive as she always encouraged me to try again so silly things like I didn't make cheerleading. The first time am I tried out and I didn't want to try it again And then she encouraged me to try again or I'm trying to think of another example. I think no. I certainly didn't think I was smart. I was always told that it wasn't working up to my potential. And in retrospect it was more than that I mean as an adult. I've recently gotten diagnosed with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder which is a lot of times. It's not common and women. It's certainly not common women that are doctors and I think I've been a little more secure of myself. I I think I liked to think that I would have been able to say this isn't Not Trying this is a lacking capability but instead I honestly believed everything. My parents particularly my mother told me In retrospect there was some crazy stories that it took me years to be like. Oh that wasn't true. And it also sorta led me to my. I guess it's a several of my jobs. It led me to my job as a psychologist because I did want to figure out. If if there was a truth what truth was why my family functions so unusually and I do believe that it also led me to my job. It was a podcast because it's it really is. I think you'll relate. It's the ability to learn to speak your truth which not which I guess I didn't really have when I was younger? That's not true. I know that as a podcast are one of the main things I tried to help. Women do is to find a voice that they don't think they have and to build the confidence that they don't seem to have the power to do and I definitely know that as kids. We don't necessarily think we have a voice. You don't think we're supposed to talk. We don't sing that. We really have any right to be who we are and to express ourselves so I can definitely say I relate eight to that because even as a child I just didn't really understand what my worth was. I didn't really think that. Oh settlement accomplishments or outside of the things that I could Do I wasn't really worth anything right Recently I I have my pot current podcast. It's called neurotic like nourishment and it's myself and a very good friend of mine. And we co host and recent may the subject has come up that she may or may not continue. Because this is a very successful nutritionist. And it's simply this might not be at this point in her career. She may not have the time to to devote to join this with me and so we had to talk about it and we agreed to leave in sort of open ended and see what came next but I I had a real l.. I think continued to have a real sort of Self exploration you need to look inside myself to figure out why. Why is this so important to me that this podcast and also why am I so self doubting and I think the answer really? Fortunately a friend of mine helped me to Sort of thread these pieces apart and together again. I think a big part of this goes down to my childhood and believing thing you know being told things that were not truths and believing them and feeling like perhaps my recollection. My memory was not the correct one because the adults are supposed to know better so So I find this fascinating and this conversation really reinforced the fact that I do want to continue this and it's an exciting something we do. I know that your your home. Life wasn't necessarily the best. But can you really tell us what life was like at school. What were your interactions with other kids like like so? It's interesting because once again on paper my home life was fine and a part of that comes comes from this. You know upper middle class background and You know intact nuclear family. I have a friend that I have you know. I'm forty two and I have a friend that I've been close with since I was like ten. And it's only about three or four years ago that she was over one night right and she took a look at what the dynamics of my family and she said I always thought you were making it up all those years. She never understood quite the level of mental illness and instability and until recently on one hand my parents were the strict parents I it was only allowed to go out one night a week. It was either Friday or Saturday and I always had the earliest curfew and those are things that I I eight minor I respect. I might repeat for my own children but there was also this lack of I guess being able to relate two other I usually had boyfriends more than friends because it was much easier much safer for me to interact one on one than it is with the group and I a hey group dynamics are very much related to What we call the family of origin or the family you come from and so for that reason I I don't like groups like I don't like everyone in that group? I don't WanNa do that. A lot of my teenage patients have their friend groups and to me. That sounds like torture. Sure as you're talking I'm like oh my gosh. I remember when I was a teenager when I was younger I hated being around too. Many people like even our own like you know more than two People Messiah. There's so many people here and you feel sorry you my voice in the morning you feel you feel this anxiety or you feel this this kind of like Can you like alway now. There is the people here and I can. I need my space like even last week. I was at the convention four-block Manager Pride on that gave this this presentation and I'm like you know what Y'all finish finish. I need to go down to Earth so let. Let's wrap this up so I definitely understand. What is what you're saying that because of all the things things that are going on inside of you because of the Taos fears and anxieties being too many people is difficult for you? And isn't there really women. I will say yes. I feel like as women being are on other women tend to be a lot more challenging for us than being your own men. Because I don't know if he's up. Men Don't have as much tetanus or men are kind of a lot more say how they feel and not really hide the things but I find that it can be very very difficult for us as women to relate to other woman so I can only speak for myself itself and at this point in my life I do have some very good solid female friends who yell at me when I say this but I've I don't trust women I mean. I grew up knowing that something's not quite right with what was going on with my mother and her volatility. And like you never knew when something was you know She was GONNA strike Out Not physically but sort of emotionally and so I I really I for me any like one on one with a woman was fine nine or girl but anything else was not fine and I think it was largely when I got pregnant and that well when I had a baby and I had no clue what to do with the baby that was when I realized the importance of sort of mom groups. And even now you know I'm active in my kids. PTA PTA school functions volunteering. And I'm still a little skeptical on. It takes me a lot longer to warm up to women than men Phuc because what I went through and I also that humorously the women I do tend to like our very strong solid. You know fix my crown you know. Tell me what they don't like to my face rather than ever talk about me behind my back so I value the friendships. I have now. It took awhile well. Yeah it's I definitely can't say that when even though it might be difficult at first when you find women who truly understand you appreciate you inspire you and you come together. Beautiful things start to happen and I'm so happy to hear that you do have a group of women who are around. Who Do help you to fix their crown and who has held it like it is with kindness and love of course and that has helped to really understand and kind of grow to to trust more and more and more each day it is a struggle? But you're still getting better and I absolutely appreciate at about you. I think you if you could turn back time and talk to your fourteen or sixteen year old cells. What exactly would you say to her right now? God that's such a huge question. I I mean on one hand and I'm almost getting teary as I try to say this like I think I I would want to reassure them that it does get better than being me. I think I would I think I would encourage myself to do things that scare me. I used to be terrified of speaking in public. I used to be terrified of putting myself out there. I you know I think I was afraid of asking for what I wanted lest I be judged. I think that I think the time has been a really amazing gift for me. Even if not for my you know my wrinkly face but I think that I turned forty two recently and I have have to say I have a friend who always told me you will love your forty s and so far I feel a lot more confidence comfortable and I'm able to be certified without being aggressive because they no longer feel like I'm fighting the world. I'm just I in trying to create the best world. They can for myself for my family for my career. And I you know I've also learned I I spent a lot of time lately promoting adding a book coming out in March and I was afraid of social media for a while and now I sort of realized what's the worst they can say like we're speaking says no and I think would have enjoyed so many more things about my. My you know my teens my twenties if I we had that courage that confidence To sort of throw caution to the wind then so i. Hi if it's funny. It's so that by the time this error is I'll be intimate Europe as you're talking. I'm like you know what for so long. We they are afraid are we've been afraid up. People will say horrible things. They'll say no dale trash online. But you are absolutely right in saying that the worst thing that that anyone can say is no or like you know what not everybody needs to like you because not everybody has good taste. And that's absolutely yeah you will come across in life. Who are just not your cup of tea or you aren't bears and that's okay? Yeah I mean we started this podcast on in a whim and that we just found every amazing women that we thought we want the without would be fantastic to have a conversation with whether here at the like these various women or authors of parenting books or just anyone that we thought would be cool to meet in person Weyrich now and you know what some said no a lot said yes and I. I love this part of my job because I get to spend time learning with and from other women and the same thing goes from this book. I have twenty four expert riders in the buck and really there were people that I some I new personally semi professionally some. I just admired for years and it was incredible to put myself out there and see what difference could make so so well so far no difference but to be brave so well. You've only just begun. And I think I saw coal yesterday. That was seen see. You know what even though you might not see the change your creating behind the scenes things are happening on. It will come sooner or later. It might be later but it still coming. I think that's a fantastic quote. I think we never know the effect we have on people. I feel that it my job. You know working with teenagers teenagers. I think you never know when one thing is going to make a difference. Amen to that you never ever know what what has been your lowest point in your life. Oh that's a good one okay. So the lowest point in my life In in December of twenty thirteen my well in December of twenty thirty and my the mother in law actually dropped dead out of the blue and she was my rock She's a little bit crazy but we all are but she he was My babysitter my you know my neighbor we. We literally moved to the town that my husband's parents lived in for the purpose of having help as a babysitter and I had never changed diaper suit of a mess. I I thought I could do everything and and then I realized I didn't know what to do with this baby when it came out of me and She literally one night she she dropped out of a heart attack and and which is dreadful and it definitely took a toll on we had to tell. My children took a toll on my husband for years because it was so unexpected and then two weeks after that I my aunt was sent to prison for Medicare fraud and and That was a lot and then Right after we buried my see this is more than you ask for right. After we buried my mother in law we found out that my cat who had had for fourteen seniors had terminal cancer and made it about three more weeks for we had to put him down and then I like to call this referred to this period of time as The year my world stood still My one of my childhood best friends ends. This was like the boy next door who his mom and my mom grew up in. I was supposed to marry and he was really cute. He got PNEUMONIA AMMONIA FILL into a coma and never worked out and while I was visiting him at the hospital. My daughter fell off the monkey bars and fractured and dislocated or humorous and had to have some pretty major surgery. Aren't you sorry you asked actually no you know why because I found that if he's one thing people who listen to the show understand people tend to tell me like they feel like I missed therapists. Therapy office tell me a lot of the so I really appreciate you telling me opening up and just being authentic and is telling us what's going on in your life because we tend to bottle things up I we don't talk about it but talking about the iphone is one of the best medicines in the world. I agree I agree and I will tell you. Now in retrospect looking back at this whole series of events I could clear I can see a path that I don't. I don't know if we're GONNA go with Gods Spirits universe you know Karma but what did end up happening is that I was. I was fairly depressed and I. I also had two young kids to take care of and so I- funnel do my depression into my writing which had always been passionate mine and I wrote a fiction novel and the fiction novel. Actually an excerpt from it won a national contest in in Cosmopolitan magazine. I promise it was not a book about having anything to do with. It was totally pitching but It it won this contest this contest. Got Me my agent My fiction agents and then as a result of a writing group I ended up meeting my co author for for this upcoming South Book Ten steps defining happy and I also really discovered who my real people were who could be there for me and I had a parent because I had two parent despite my sad s. so I think everything I went through in the end and you know brought me one step closer to many of my goals. Even though it was honestly just a a dreadful year and I I saw it would never end but but it did. And it's I think what I went through is part of. What brought me to the person I am today? I appreciate appreciate that oatmeal because I remember looking back over my life. Which is Oh my Gosh lifetime movie? Extraordinary looking back over the past ause COUPLA years I definitely can tell that everything literally happened like a domino effect to lead me to where I am today and so at the time hi. It was painfully painful. It was all for my bit for my grades are good and I know that for you to like you said even though things might have happened and they weren't always good there weren't always bad but they lead you to where you are today and that in itself is amazing. Yeah it is and once again when you asked me what I what I wish I could tell my younger self. I guess I wish I had a way of explaining that you know that. There's a path even if they they can't see it. How did you monies to pull yourself up out of that pit when you are in your lowest points of your life? I I think I wish I had something brilliant. I think it was one step after you know putting one foot in front of the other I think it was is finding a balance between caring for my kids and caring for myself. I also did a tremendous amount of art it projects with my My kids in particular my son because there was something about the act of not just playing but creating creating something that had a beginning and an end and that we could then look at it and say look what we did today. That made me feel like no matter how I was at the time I had accomplished something. Interestingly my son is now eleven and he is. He built his Halloween costume. He the creates gadgets and inventions. You know I think that some part of him also absorbs what I was doing for survival. I ended ended up. Shaping one of the coolest parts of his personality. What exactly does your life look like right? Now that's a really good question I I so I think it's pretty cool to be honest I I have a private practice. In and Hewlett New York in Long Island New York. I started off working with a Lotta. I'd never wanted to work with parents errands because why never work with children because trust me ninety nine percent of the time the parents have done wrong and no one wants to change. If it's convenient so I ended up working with a lot of anxious adults and which I think is something I suffered from when I was younger a younger I also about six years ago. I went on anxiety meds and founder of with Yoga. And all of these things have brought me to a place where I can understand I guess anxiety and then had to deal with that and then most recently I have started working with suicidal teenagers in part because my mom clearly suffered from mental illness both in the past and currently and it's still being poorly treated and I think that it's really tough for heads for teenagers to admit to having these horrible scary the thoughts and no one wants to work with them. Because you know God forbid someone dies and if we refuse I used to talk about Feelings and thoughts about suicide were further like stigmatizing mental illness and preventing people from getting the help they need and I it you know so to me this is really my my passion. I talk talk about it on my podcast. I am trying desperately to use my my book release on March Twentieth. Two Thousand Twenty ten steps to finding happy is being released as a part of the United Nations International National Day of happiness and. I know it's weird that that's a thing but whatever it's a thing and I am hoping to do. I got these like oversize postcards made up and I am hoping to sort of make a statement on social media using the Hashtag ten ten steps and the stigma and to have you know anyone who's a mental health advocate I have a few celebs or pseudo celebs are instagram. So that adds ads have also agreed to post this. I kind of want my book is Nice but my mission is nicer. I I mean I should have used a different word than Nice. It's just so important to me. I think if if we were more if we were more comfortable talking about mental illness when I was younger I think my mom would have gotten the help help she needed and it would have been a different upbringing. So you know I have this one opportunity to Put out a book. And maybe hopefully you know pray to anyone and everyone Put a message out there so that you know on March twentieth on on social media were sort of taking a stance and saying to those who are suffering. It's okay to suffer and it's okay to talk about it and it doesn't. It's not a bad thing you know and then also to raise awareness that we should be treating mental house. Even though we can't see it I'd like to be treating mental health just as if just as we do physical health and not something. That's that we should be ashamed of so two children tolerate my business us and I have a husband who was a saint and who is totally off the grid that social media and has never listened to Cinco podcast episode of wait. Why he That's a really good question so my husband is a psychologist also and I met him in graduate school and our first few years together our fights. I wish we tip them. Because it's like you're saying that because your mother did you you know we're both cycle analyzing each other and It's it's pretty silly but we we do different. We have a different focus for our work mark but the bus and also I'm a really swearing. Mom and I justified this by saying I'm smart enough enough and educated enough and All these other things that if I want to drop a bad word here and there for emphasis I'm okay with that but he is less so and You know I think he. I was twenty three when we met he was almost thirty eight. I think he thought it was a less outspoken person. Am I probably was so I actually Kinda liked that. He doesn't listen. Because it gives me Freedom Greenham again to speak my boys and not to worry about someone else. He is one of our guests writers in our book though. He's a parenting expert and he's amazing so it's about a balance whom okay. Okay that's weird. I know it's weird. I'm not denying it. It's super weird. But he also told me the other day that he was listening to a podcast and then it turned out. It was a ted talk and then he told me I should do ted talk and I realized he has no understanding of this world. You know what you could definitely do. What Ted talk because I think the other day I was like let me just apply for Ted talk of mandate? I'm keeping my fingers crossed cross want to. I want to be like a you know really awesome. It's painting me not to use bad words. You know but I thought what you really like. Awesome so lab for them to choose you. It's really interesting to hear that we you know across we both doing it. You can definitely can. You don't have to be some big huge celebrity. All you need is a story and each and every one of us does have a story to tell which is why your podcast is so incredible and I I wish I honestly. I wish that I wish that I had access to something like this because I definitely think throughout my life I mean when I was a mom. Messing testing up I didn't embrace the the mass with a message. And that's one of the reasons I really wanted to speak to. You is because it's really brilliant and I'm sure you're helping so many people out there thank you so so much. You are exactly the reason why I do what I do. Because like you said when I was going through my mess I wish I wish I had someone to say. Hey you know what it's okay you can become message. You can still do so with their life so i. I'm just hoping to do that for somebody else. Even knows one other person just somebody somebody else to tell them that you know what it can get better. You don't have to stay here. You can still move on with your life so I think I think I mean besides the listeners. I really really feel that. You're helping each guest because you're giving us a different way to frame our stories and some of you know I'm sure we've thought about it but some of it it it takes one of the recent therapy works is because it takes a conversation with someone else to pull out the you know the parts of your life that you may not have realized in how important they were at the time but now we see and I think that's what you do for your guest and your listeners. Thank you so much thank you so oh I have one final question for you for all the women listening to this show now or ten years from now in the future past whenever what is the one piece of advice you want to pass onto them. That's a good question so I for a long time I I. I don't want to say I was anti feminist but I did not think of myself as a feminist I thought that men and women can be equivalent without being equal. Oh I saw that I actually. There was a time when I thought that you know Women being paid less kind of made sense because a lot of us go and have babies and You grow up and when I one of the things I like to think if I find myself getting offended or emotional or reaction to something that someone is sad is I asked myself. What's what here you know what this person? I've said this to me. If I were a man and to be honest it probably also applies across race religion culture age. I think it's important to know your worth and for me. One of the ways to know my word is to figure out if someone is judging judging me for who I am or who they perceive mid A. B. From the outside so that's been one of my new secret keys to reminding myself to know my worst into not taking what other people say or think at at face value as a judgment of who I am. Where can our listeners? Connect with you online and get to know more about you and hear your podcast. Sure please listen and so I so my podcast is called neurotic nourishment and it is on Ah Apple spotify gets on almost. It's on as many of them as I know the names from so it's on most major pod casting platforms. You can also find me on instagram at Psych shrink mom. I have an instagram account. For the upcoming upcoming book at Ten Steps Finding happy there is also a neurotic nourishment instagram account which is at Karadzic nourishment. And lastly I just returned to twitter. Which I kind of love and just to confuse you? I'm I started that before where I was married. So on that I am Lindsay S Cowan K. A. L. L. E.. An and. I would love it if you you guys would follow me. And it's great having a voice and it's great being heard and I also WanNa hear everyone else's voice so thank you so so much for that. I will definitely include information for connecting with you in the show notes. Thank you so much for coming on for sharing your story and just being it yourself and being super editing by the way. I'm sorry I mean I know it's a serious topic but I also survived with my like. I survived vibes through humorous. And I can't help it and I'm so proud I didn't swear But but really this is such an important podcast and I definitely found myself getting emotional. Now which means you're doing so much right so oh thank you thank you so much. I are Super Super Super Super Super Looking forward to you know Oh people listening people here interview people really being inspired reaching out to you and as building community of brave amazing fantastic encouraging women who exactly shape lives so exactly. Oh thank you and now when the book comes out I'm going to stock you to try to Take a picture of yourself holding that little thing like I was poorly explaining. But I'm sorry I've been seeing. I've been seeing patients for like like twelve hours so I only barely speak in but this is the highlight so oh no I think being in Japan I forget my words sometimes and I'm just like wait. Am I supposed to the Speaker Award. Cause how many languages do you speak. I speak well if Saddam which is included and I speak three. Wow Japanese English English sign language. Little bit of Spanish and of course Jamaican creole cheese. I speak Spanish poorly. That's about it. It also speak gibberish. which is language that a teenage girl language? It's like a it's like a made up derived of it's basically pig lighten preferred noxious girls and Two weeks ago one of my patients came in upset that this girl was talking about her but she couldn't understand what she said and she showed me the video like I got not that that's gibberish. Even know maybe one day gibberish will become an official language. So I I won't really hold my breath though but it does. 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What is Rewilding and Why is it important? - Raju Rajan

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What is Rewilding and Why is it important? - Raju Rajan

"What is wilding. And why is it important. We'll talk about that on this episode of the tv pod Welcome my friends yet. Another episode of the mind. Dot tv podcast. I'm mike napoli thanks for coming. It's great to have you here as always thursday afternoon. Beautiful thursday afternoon. Where i am here on long island new york. It's beautiful day wherever you are. We're gonna talk about rewinding today. We wilding what is it. Why is it important. And what are we. What are we doing about it You know if you don't know what rewinding is you're not alone. I mean i kind of an idea about what it is. But i'm not really An expert in it by any means. I'm not really knowledgeable about it in any means but hopefully that's going to change a little bit here today. My guess is a very active. That and he's going to help us. Sort it out and figure out why it's important doing about it and then where we go from here Today's broadcast is brought to you. By fund. 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He of course all across the united states day very local to me. I mean we're we're talking Just long island today. But i'm sure what we're going to be talking about applies to wherever you live today as well because So much of our landscape ecology has changed due to human behavior. I think probably an important subject wherever you are roger Raju reggie rajen is technology. I practice that and had it right before the show folks. I'm sorry whereas you regine could whereas you rajen. Hopefully i got it right. That time is a technologist with a strong community Communitarian ethic is a long career. Researcher consultant in technologies is strong entrepreneurial as as led him to find to. It starts as well as a number of community groups aimed at organizing people for systemic. Change is currently active on long island With long island together progressive collective that organizes around education immigration and social change as well as reviled long island which brings native plants to public spaces and private yards They are as you serves as the president of the board. Ladies and gentlemen please will open your ears. Open your minds and help me welcome in russia. Regine to the mind tv pockets. Welcome thanks matt. I hope i don't have any difficulties saying your name saying that right. It's all right. And i appreciate your patience with that. You know part of the west part of this job is trying to pronounce names. That are a little tricky for me. I like joe smith. Because that's what i grew up with. I appreciate you your patience and Thank you for having me on In preparation for this podcast. I did listen to several of your shows and i was amazed by the eclecticism of your guests. People have range in everything from you afford to authors to mystery to environment to music to comedy. It's amazing how many subjects you manage to inform yourself on and the energy you bring to. The shows was amazing. I appreciate it so thank you for all for not just carrying my message but messages into the well. I appreciate that comment observation. Thank you very much. I try very hard to keep up Sometimes i don't keep up as well You know depending on the subject. But i try my best to keep up. This one is new to me I i i've heard about any Concerted effort to rewire wild. A and i'm kind of and i'm going to play devil's advocate. Here is not that. I don't wanna see it but i think people need to understand why this is important and if it's even really achievable because where i am it's a it's it's kind of so far from what nature intended for this That i can't imagine it ever getting back to it's it's it's natural state So if we could just start with the with the overall what exact for people who are completely unfamiliar. What exactly is re wilding so remaining within the larger rubric core frame after sustainable landscaping so. It's not rocket science. I would say it's two sides right. One is sort of a natural history. One is a history lesson so to speak. It's much less than you've lived under a long island. You very well know that levittown out in long island was the first-ever suburb. It was invented. We think suburbs happened. It's absurd invented just like a lot of other things great ideas. Somebody came back from the war and said hey all these veterans coming back from the war going to need a place to stay. Let's start building housing. And they had a brilliant idea they said. Why don't set the houses unlike the city. The why don't we set the houses back from the street and cover that space between with a strip of lawn and provide some frontier backyard space around the house and then be this cookie cutter development. Which can erases the land as it was but creates these mass produced but yet natural looking in mind minutes that are very different from the city and very different from the countryside right. They have the amenities while having the natural feel of the other. So that was what was created it. It's a great idea providing affordable living for folks of different. Some people love the city and going to never move out of that. You know whatever western apartment but to just enjoy the joys of gardening while at the same time not wanting to be very to be proximate urban Joyce that's good. The point is that model spread twelve so when we look at the fast growing. Urban areas are pretty much locked in suburban areas and exurbs growing like crazy and then the countryside depending on the porn world. It's like either getting going and then our through business areas thinking so that the story of how humid is not an unfortunate. I go back to india and just as you mentioned the stories. Eleven for every place. We go to whether they're going to new jersey with right going to south carolina where they're going to china and beijing without going to india. I travel a lot for my world. And i see that that model right when you come out of that airport you see that highway down that highway. Ucsf instead of trees and then used to come come into houses which have this property that they are suburban mitch's at they have this grass they have the few ornamental bushes and then we have the house setback. I'm not going to say it's good or bad right. It's just a question of what is the impact on the environment especially with our suburban model. Is that we brought a lot. We meaning waves of immigrants that came into this country and not talking about the native people that that were on this land in waves of immigrants right but it was italian immigrants and moved out of germany. Everybody wanted a piece of home. So they brought their favorite What is life without you know pasta. I gotta go basil here. What is life without whatever primrose there are people who brought all the shakespearean flowers they brought in birds. They bought an animals so they tried to tame the landscape and make it into what they wanted and they often the european idea of what was considered regal or prestigious was to have that launch was to have that acreage schoff. Hey look how old is grass. And i don't need to do anything with it because i'm that rich and people just cut. That's how the manor houses in europe evolved. So when you look at some of the early american architects on these even george washington when you see those famous estates of george washington dc the lawns. So really it was kind of like the idea of luxury and elegance got reproduced in a smaller scale and to the point now that lawn grass right is the number one crop in the united states and it can be such. That can debate me based on volume and acreage and all that. But it's right there up alfalfa corn. We feels you know. It's kind of outstripping all that in its lawn grass and what do we do with that trump. We grow that crop in like any green crop. It needs chlorophyll which basically means it means nitrogen so frac the earth and take those chemicals and make it into urea and all those chemicals then ring that on the industrial model for landscaping. So we have a bunch of guys vehicles which burn a whole bunch of ubiquitous. Urban sound is not birdsong. It's kind of like the leaf blow if you know what i mean. It's amazing i'm sitting here and there's no leave flowers so you're lucky this right. So what's behind me right here so rather than. Just tell you about rewarding on. It's showtime which is why. You're looking at my backyard right there behind. It used to be long and two three years ago. I said you know what. I don't know if i really want people bringing that urea like i have to tap into aquifers along the all not dependent like unlike new york city. We get our water from aquifers. So pumping water from the aquifers. Sprinkling it on the long getting guys driving the and grass lawnmower come down lawn mower all that throw a bunch of frat earth chemicals on top of it and then take it away. Throw it away. And i start all over again sweet right. It's like this is the definition of insanity. But you know we do that over and over again now. There are very many reasons to like it and if you like it great power to you if there's a piece of it or small part of it where you say. Hey you know what. I want to try something different. You can try what. I have right behind me. Which is a native plant meadow. You can try what happened my front yard which is a native plant garden. What is the difference. Is that the blimps. I'm using are not. The plant came over with immigrants right. They're not the chrysanthemums and the dahlia's and the roses and the petunias nothing wrong. They're great plants. What's special about these guys right. is that evolved. On this continent. They tend hundreds of millions of years ago. If you had gone out there in the woods you'd have found cauliflower. You found black-eyed susan's you would find golden alexander's you'd have found not far from here right. So the and the reason that is important is because many sects that also evolved and co evolved with those plants. You special use of them so you look at the from an insect that to plant it in your front yard and looks fantastic to you. It looks like a piece of plastic. There's no be that's going to be hovering around tillable on the other hand. I'm sitting here. And i saw inches. Come to eat my The the seeds on my lower. I have to mark. Butterflies are roaming around the time of the year. They looking to sit on the Milkweed and later eggs there are. There were swallowtail. Butterflies out your. She'll you suddenly plant. You know even a few like five native plants suddenly find them crawling with life because there are all these insects for whom there is food that has habitat and there is a you know places to put their eggs. The monarch butterfly s many of your listeners know right it has enormous. It's amazing journey right. It starts out in some one spot in mexico at the beginning of the season where over winters each generation a little bit like oh texas south carolina louisiana and come to new york maybe by about july or so and then they have a couple of patients and then september october last generation is called like a super generation. It flies back all the way mexico right and just think about that right. Think about great-great-great-great-grandfather. They grew up in some village. Somewhere and italy. India guatemala waiver. And then your father moved somewhere else. I mean his his trial move somewhere else is tried moved somewhere else. His child moods sales and five generations. Later you feel this compulsion knowledge to navigate your us yours thousands of miles to that one spot and then you start all over again and you're like the size of bat right. Anyone of these insects is amazing. But the point is that insect will only late eggs on the milkweed species which is capable of giving it a poison for which caterpillars imbibe to make them poisonous. So that buds juanita. It's amazing once you get into this stuff. It's not right. I know that on your show. You talk a lot about like alien intelligences and psychic. I'm like what is like the alien intelligences right there. It's called the butterfly it's called. It's called on this weekend. The intelligence right in our front yard and backyard. And we wanna talk to you know. I'll send torah and somehow send some important message about. We'll my wife is me right. Talk to talk to you plant anyway. So that's one story which is basically the history of what we did with long island is now the model the urban model of how we are going to live across the world and on the flip side dot is disturbing on each equal region. And i mean same thing is happening in india and i go back to india i go back to a place called go by in south india and the people i mean the farms people enforce so just like india and china. People are leaving the same thing that happened to the united states over the last one hundred years people left. The land came important to the city's doing more urban manufacturing and as they do that the city swell and the suburbs girl exactly happening under the suburbs are growing. What are they thinking. Not reminding the suburb. They're saying i saw this on tv. This is what americans do. I wanna swimming pool in the backyard. And i'm like dude. You live in a place which has like eight hundred centimeters of real millimeters of rainfall. Why would you need a. Why do you need to tap into the accurate foreign port. Phillip swing back now. That's what i saw. I need a lawn in my front yard and so in my back so we need to so we especially on long island. I think we owe the world to show them that. Maybe an also possible right. They can live just as well if we instead of the lawn we had some patches of native plants which means plants that are needed to region. You are so. I don't want you to grow wing. Coon flowers and india. Just because you saw me on tv or whatever right you wanna look research what is native to your place and the great thing. About what native plants you see this entire yard. There's no fertilizes except on the hottest days. I don't water them. Because these guys that used to grow in this region with no. It's not like you're going out into the anaconda and watering every day just have deep roots compared to lawn grass. That you can pull out in the roots of that some of these guys you pull them out in their re routes meter so they they can find the water. They don't need fertilizer the perfectly happy you don't need to replant them because they're perennials. Cut him a once a year twice a year and they just keep coming back every year. I leave them on over the across the winter because the birds love very often other sources of food. They'll come in eat the seeds and insects love the underbrush and habitat the bees the ground nesting bees. You know you heard about like the bee crisis every crisis right. So all that stuff. I think is titan. Queen is antennas. Meant much in your backyard. Like a lot of people feel this anxiety or the climate and plastics. And this and that another. And i'm like yeah. It's important to feel that anxiety acknowledged the fact that they're screwing up. The plan could perhaps doing better. But hey here's something you can do right in your backyard or your front yard right that you can trust me. Mindful of what that little piece of land that you actually own them fix it. So that's gonna really building in a nutshell right. They put down native plant Grow your own food if you can write in that land Recycled don't throw your trash out to be picked up. I mean don't don't treat your Yard waste and kitchen waste as trash right here growing food. And that's gold because that's basically go back into the earth right here bill. Carbon it's sequester. Carbon and treat water as an important resource have reigned beveren bell right over here capturing the spirit that comes off your roof and use that plus we just in small ways in large. Just think about water us soil during your food composting. And putting me and saying you don't have to do everything. Just stop at something. That's that's what and you make a lot of great points that now first of all One thing you brought up long island has been the model for a much of the country with the whole idea of suburbia and it's everywhere now But i think it's important for people to understand that your long island is very different from my long island. You're in a place. Called port washington. Where beth way live and that's very Much like the model of levitan. Now i'm out in shoreham which is more rural but it still has some of those Some of those elements of suburbia. In it now what we've done out here. Fbi even get it. I just put that out there. Because i think i want people understand. That long island is a big enough place that we have a lot of suburbia that the world's a in america has modeled. But there's still a lot that is still country to And i'll come back to that moment but one of the things you you brought up that i thought wow what a what a insightful thing is that. Native plants are used to the environment that they they grew there for a reason so they need the water that is available naturally and don't need watering and every year we hear about what he and next as we hear about possible cutbacks. On water use because of droughts and stuff because we've become obsessed with watering lawns. That weren't that need water. Artificially brought to them rather than the native plants that just are used to the climate and want want how much water they get. Naturally i think that's a big part of what plays into are a constant fear of drought and might have a lot to do. Even though the the west week we've re-engineered a lot of the west to get unnatural water to places. I think part of that idea of having to what a lawns everywhere is. Why they deal with drought every year now and severe water shortages. because we're we're obsessed with watering lawns. It don't that really shouldn't need watering. Am i on the right track here. I lost well. That was unusual folks. I think we lost them up. We back. I froze there. My job is in. It all all disasters happened to me. So i don't know where. I froze up but i was saying my my point was That the watering of lawns is contributing heavily to drought. And and what a is that. You know it's a big part of our problem right. I mean so without if we without those lawns that we kind of manufactured in it's part of human design We probably would not be having a lot of these water shortages that we seem to be having a lot absolutely jack absolutely make a great point. Fit talk. part of it is of course the fertilizers and the chemicals. That you have. I mean because you can't keep cutting nitrogen throwing it away and expecting the plan to produce nitrogen out of nowhere right past. You do need those external inputs of nitrogen and curious at the very least when you cut your lawn clippings there so at least some of the nitrogen goes back Right into the soil but still right along Lawn requires herbicides. And you know a variety of different ways of so it is very energy inefficient as well as watering mission. So you better one of the things. I think that should be a concern. Is the political aspect of this. Now i mentioned you live in port washington then. You probably have a lot of neighbors that close to you And now. I'm not saying this is necessarily your case but i could see it being a case where You grow this natural habitat lawn backyard. That you have your attracting You know bugs insects and things like that right right but not just the the the butterflies if we're if we're honest about all sorts of Insects that you neighbors probably probably don't want in their yard. They liked having the the manufactured one and swimming pool and all that stuff. So i'm not saying it's necessarily your situation but i could see getting to be a political situation between neighbors. I don't want your yard doing that. You're affecting especially in sub- suburbia where people live so close together. You're affecting my yard by by running your you're naturally right absolutely. Look if you any situation so so. Here's say political right. I i. I wanna take the toxicity of our current political debate whereas you have pointed out i think on your show very incisively i think a couple of episodes ago you said that like any time somebody comes up with a proposal right. It becomes like hay. Who radio right. I don't want to get into that right because that's kind of like you know. There are good reasons for doing things and are bad. Reasons for doing things irrespective. What political political. What sort of grand narrative of democrat democrats were republicans subscribed to. Here's some simple things i would say. If you wanna keep a cure lawn and your thing please do that. I mean there's nothing slot this is not meant to be any dictatorship. But here's what i'm seeing right as long island changes as we see more young couples come into the into the Region asked me as we diversify as we even older people having more health concerns about pesticides in their yard. I don't know like you know the whole suit about You know a variety of chemicals that get broadleaf chemicals that Get sprayed in the yard to fight it. Weeds things like that nuns about that concerns about water concerned about global warming. If you like the flies if you just you know you haven't kid and you want them to learn about a butterfly. You'll put formal tweeden backyard. It's not going to really be the end of like anything right. You're not gonna have an army of elephants tapping to your backyard just because we put formula you. Can you can dive into as little as cautiously as experimentally as thoughtfully as you would anything else right and there are benefit. The point is three years ago. I tell you this map when i did it. I was crazy this is this is the truth about everything the saying the on island and their lawns and they had one hand exactly one guy who was completely doing the chemical thing the guy who was doing the or doing completely organically and then they had me crazy guy who pulled out his lawn and put something in his backyard the next year they were saying you know here are some cutting edge movement and then if featured for people who had done reviled in the backyard so it's kind of like when you do it alone the first time you're an eccentric in a crazy person if two people do it you guys up there and then you know soon enough you're cutting edge and then you're all passe and everybody's doing it like don't do it because you know what you need but things ask yourself. What do i by the leadership to be with my front yard backyard space. Do i care about any of these things that this guy is talking about then to it and try it out if it works. Great other ways. Hey how long does it take to get the grass back right. You know. I i actually Doing what i'm doing what you doing but I did it without intention purely accidental My wife We were separated for a short time for For about six or seven more that now seven or eight years ago now and she completely led the swimming pool. Go and it got damaged. And so i had escalated. Come and pull the in ground pool out of the ground and on aside your backyard and it just naturally went back to looking a lot like what you have behind you And because i think we're in a country that i i'm assuming a lot of those plants are Native to new long island north. Show have long where i am now. So we kind of went back to that naturally but he his where. I'm going with this where i am somebody yesterday on. Twitter said As what i what idea or invention as man come up with that has caused more harm than good. And i thought all of them but here where here here where i am. Deer tics were problem. Lime disease were problem because we have a lot of Because because of the the nice grass that we put in the suburbs to have p encourage those deals to come and give them free Grazing food and they propagated in albert Abundant deer became a problem with lime disease because of the the attacks. So what they do they brought in turkey to eat the deer tics now we're overrun with turkey's So it's it seems like no matter what human tried to do to try to address a net problems that seeing nature. They only make it worse than i'll bring up one more kind of ridiculous thing from last week of bull escaped out here. Mastic long escape from a slaughterhouse and it's still on the loose and they couldn't find it and they were concerned that herd animals need company or their. They suffered a very miserable so they let a cow lose to go be with the ball and now the cows missing and they can't find the cow so my my point is the more humans. Try to address problems like think. Sometimes we mess him up. Make things even worse. So how do we know that That that what you're doing is not gonna not gonna have some adverse effect ten years twenty years down the road absolutely look. Here's the thing. And i think it goes to a lot of the spiritual stuff that you talk about as well right which is basically and connecting right. So it's kinda like for music right. And and i don't want to speak for anybody else here for me bringing back in my backyard. That has an annual plants in bringing back bees wasps for the first time in this country dragonfly. I've seen these gold finches combined so it's amazing rich in rich in rich. This land is like so as an immigrant. I kind of knew the names of my wife jokes. She says when you came into this country you you knew. Tim norms of two flowers. Roses and mary goals. And you didn't know anything else. You know all this stuff. And i say well. I knew a lot of stuff that was in my country here. I didn't know chrysanthemums johndroe in my country. It ranges thing so so so so for me. It was a way to connect with this land. That now a part of in a way that i was not so for me. America was all about you know Tv and the politics and the newspapers in the sports. And you know that's the kind of culture you get involved in so it brings some what really part of america that is essentially native to it is unique about it is not. I mean you the specific species that i'm looking at if you go to a different park and i'm gonna get it so it's almost left unique to long island. That's unique to the northeast kinda. Thanks so it's kind of interesting to relate to your space in a different way. So that's one. And as i was joking but i really think you get for the intelligence that surrounds you in the the one of the life the ecological web that surrounds you a lot more appreciation of it. If you're actually connecting to it and see some imp- certain attributes for any one of these things and as you point out anything you can have good and bad effects the main things that i ask myself as three things does it. Make me a better person. Second does it have a positive impact on community and people around me and the third thing it does. It have a positive impact on under creatures right the other intelligent creatures that we are sharing the earth with and in all respects. Just bring small things charles ability in your yard help you in all those three dimensions do it. I mean trade out. What's the worst thing that can happen. If wanted to a meditative cranston. Start looking at a flower. Get you some of the words and again. I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I am all for what you're doing. I'm just kind of Putting these things out there you say what is the west west thing that can happen. You can be overrun with wild turkeys I mean there. There are lots of those kind of things that i'm sure people weren't those netease in the neighbor in my neighborhood with the best of intentions to kind of call or the lime disease naturally but now overrun with wild turkeys. I can go out on my front lawn. There'll be a hundred wild turkeys out there and I don't know if you've ever seen wild turkey takeoff but they're like dinosaurs realize when they've let their win. It's pretty but so. I'm not sure that was part of the natural landscape of belong to so you know it's sad part where we should be very thoughtful about. What so what we have done. That's part of the problem. Which is we've taken out the epochal creditors right. So the things that are eaten the deer are gone right. the the great thing about Long island again and other recent development because of a lot of the effect the conscious effect while bring back natural plots etcetera is starting to see cody's back again i don't know again some people maybe along by it some people may hate it. That's fine it's on them right but for me. It's a positive that they're bringing back. Some of the ethical raters. Because then you change the natural imbalances exactly as you said right once and being stalked disrupting and in mind and they tried to fix it back. You're going to put it back in a pristine form always going to have to do something find something wrong with it and do something else but on the other hand if you just sit back and do nothing. You're never going to do that right. You're still doing something. Which is you still have that long. You're putting that long. So the alternate is do nothing and move out. I mean it's not like magic wand where you erase human being human being still act but we can act heartfully and we can act as we don't have to be right the first time you can always act a little bit see what consequences are correct directions and make better choices than its lack of conscious thinking that we make these choices we just. It's just like you know. Imagine all rest mcconnell's they were just out there. There's only one model of restaurant. And that's mcdonald's and if you go out to eat you can eat at mcdonald's world with not otherwise but that's what they were doing the same thing you know you get you get a little bit of a preneurs you get a subway. You get a whole foods you get. Its diversity you still can eat at. The mcdonalds writes the mountain. The lawn is exactly that the lawn is an industrial model. Apply to your landscape. They take that long grass they grow it like qamar somewhere you know acres and acres of it. They bring it they dump it here. They bring machinery they bring unskilled immigrant labor and they run it over and over again and they give you a for fifty dollars a week or thirty dollars a week. Or whatever the rate in your areas it's a manufactured product and then there's an industry out there that is telling you own my god. This is what you need. If you have a lawn you have somehow failed. ex neighbors. They're gonna hit you or if you have clover on your loan that's terrible. Let's use these chemicals to get those and the funny thing was clovers on lawns. Long used to be a thing til the industry actually discovered these broadly chemicals and the started to run a marketing campaign. So so the point is if you do things without thinking you're likely playing into the hands of somebody like marketing. You see where he will know. If you just go to mcdonalds advertisement you saw. Hey you harming yourself but you're doing it to the policy but it's still doing something here's something else out which you know maybe pinera's and your thing you really should be cooking your own food but at least you on a journey to find out right i hear you and i applaud your your Optimism for for making a change. But and the but here is that I don't think it can be done one family at a time. One one house at the time. And maybe you do. But what i see here like you look. At the example you gave with levittown That became the model for economic reasons that was reproduced all over the country because it seemed to work economically seem to work towards And i'm all i'm a. I'm a capitalist. I wanna make sure people understand that. I'm not against money but What was seeing now is is equally in my view. Probably going to be as dangerous ought to the environment As the suburban model is what. We're seeing it out here. Is these luxury communities. Where it's like a condo or co-op where these you'd building to put in place but it's still the fake pond with lots of that grassley you talking about and all that kind of stuff but everything built into like a one a small community so the stores are within those ca- how within the housing like a mall and all kinds of seeing a take place out here. So are you optimistic. That bet you can really affect change. One one house at a time when family at a time when i am exactly with you on that Math basically you know you have to have. It's an ecosystem right so everything. Lots of different pieces have to move right. Governments and regulations and rules have to move Industry has done so basically a nursery industry. That is completely dedicated to creating these like taking these five different exotic plants and putting many mass manufacturing them putting them in home depot said. You can pick it up. The landscaping industry has to change. They have a certain industrial model of manufacturing speak lawns and landscapes that has to change so the entire ecosystem But let me give you an example right. So if you go back. So let's talk about that luxury condominium that comes near your house we have several of those coming up right. I mean as as being suburbanites but one of the first things that's gonna happen is you're gonna get a starbucks and you're gonna whole foods at one point so pointer so all. Those people are shopping at holes. Now forty years back. There was no awareness about food. It was a bunch of hippies midwest like a bunch of hippies heating putting all these chemicals in their body and they were all weird about it and then the tomatoes look look like we are in crappy and then They were midwestern farmers who hated Putting all the you know they were like my grandfather never used to farm like this with all these chemicals and mechanization and it's screaming over and these back to the land and started producing food in a different way. And then i remember the early co-ops and i came back came to the united states. I went to university of wisconsin in madison. So whether you think about madison. Minneapolis or berkeley. Many of those places became a urban co ops. The first urban clock scamming where they used to go out and do the community supported agriculture. Lock box but batches of potatoes. And they're back and then distribute it to their community because if it was never available the information was not available. The information was mixed in with misinformation. It was a complicated costly thing to remember when organic vegetables used to cost like six dollars a pound at eight dollars a pound and we were like this is never going to change. The industry is too much against it. Guess what amazon. But whole foods right and they completely radicalized the supply chain for going to amazon. Now a whole foods now and my organic egg is maybe like thirty cents more expensive than inorganic again. I bet you it's not cost. I bet you they do it just to keep that price differential and the brand of french just like white tesla prices higher for an electric car just to keep you keep it in mind that oh my god. This is an and suddenly wall aren't no wants to be the biggest organic supplier in the world. How did this happen in your lifetime. Lifetime right we saw this transmission. It's not this is the same thing this is doing to. You're taking a mass manufactured product. That is not really good for you. The only reason you have it is because your neighbors have it. Only reason your neighbors you. You'll have it the reason why this cheap and the reason why cheapest. There's missionary to keep it manufactured at this rate. So why is it expensive for me to put in a wildflower garden which does not require fertilizer. Which does not require chemicals which does not apply what and for you to keep. Because that's what the missionaries missionaries like dictatorship for unskilled labor on the other hand lift tesla started manufacturing these robots capable and could manufactured along you and it was like the thing to do. I bet you all these people will has had many branding and marketing people on your show. You know how much of what people take for granted until the common wisdom is manufactured through that is being delivered to them. And i'm not saying that like oh my god. I'm above this. I consume my respects. And then whatever you make a good point i. It's sometimes a little bit about it. Sometimes you just have to be patient for these changes. 'cause i'm i'm by nature a very patient person and when i see a good idea i think why. Why don't we just get moving on this quickly. But you know you talk about you know the changes towards organic foods and all that kind of stuff. Those have to happen over decades so sometimes you have to kind of sit back and i stay positive. Yeah from the ground we hold on. We're having some from bandwidth. Let me see if i can fix this a little bit. Maybe a little better. That oops i lost a regime again. Hopefully what we feel. We got very areas back. Thank you talking about Hey yeah yeah. It's changes a challenge are know it always takes a little fast as they say that it. It always seems to take longer than it needs to. And then when it happens faster than you think it would write it just keeps coming electric cars into that transmission if they pass these bills start putting electric cars everywhere and then they start. Manufacturing edna religion gained. You know right now. It looks like oh my god you know. Think about the few people who have electric cars and how far we have to go. We'll have it and soon enough people look back and say yeah that was not progression and whatever and you know it'll seem like it happened faster than me too but it's Yeah so tell me. Tell me a little bit about the organization Rewired long island Dog first of all How long how long ago did you get started. And were you Were you part of of the initiation of building the organization grab we have found us just tell is story a little bit like so my backyard. I just got sick of you. Know decided while florida's ninety. I didn't do it the way that i would now. With more knowledge. I was just like an immigrant gardner. Who said you know what i hear about these native plants. Yeah that seems interesting. When i put them and then they went on online. I find any information about everybody. Doug and doug and then i found somebody who is willing to sell me a couple of seed mixes and i drove my lawn. Three and it was just spectacular like within six months. I was because all these plants came up and you know the next year. And i saw all these the explosion of life i saw around that that may not be right. So if you if you're afraid of bees and butterflies and beetles and birds act stay indoors. I mean there are people like that. I'm not. I'm not gonna to down for. I'm afraid of but i know they're very important. None of the bees that are another native bees. I had in my yard ever stung me or anything like that. They're fat and happy and they so the bumblebee sitting on you know you have something like a seaside goldenrod. And then there's bumblebees crawling. Any pat them and then they're like let alone. Let me might things matt the only things. You got to be worried about his yellow jackets. And those you don't get because you have native plants. Those of wasps right was scary. Bees or bs very different anyway matures here. Here is the point. We got soon after that the community on our shopping on big oak trees again long island. It's so boost with such beautiful trees and such beautiful Flora and fauna empa- those get cut down and and the point is like cut down one it. Typically that sustaining the life of so many kind of blesses. Those caterpillars feed birds and so on and so forth. So you're making a lot of you can't cut down a hundred year old a plant for treason. Say or you know. Done my bit to replant right you. The plants that you put in our baby lamb seen one hundred years before they're gonna so we felt very bad about it because they did it for both reason and batteries. The good reason was in some places it was pulling up the sidewalk and some of them were diseased and needed to be down in some places they just did it gratuitous ladda and so he got together and said what can we do. That does not require us. Just any outside and being a of crazy. Let me chain myself to the oak of situation. What can be doing realize look we could do a lot in our front yard backyard native plants and so we found it as a community group in two thousand eighteen And then we're actually. Were it only tony in two thousand. Nineteen that be incorporated as organization and then Twenty was when we got our three status and so on so really about a year or two old and one of the first things we started doing as a group is doing these native plants sales because he's plants usually hard to get you. Can't you know you where do you from depot doesn't have for many retain vendors retail costs are high the wholesale causal mobile thereto. Costs are high so we were like. Why don't we act as a as a community. Do just like those public crazy. Organic people were creating. These co ops to bring organic food and distributed in the neighborhoods. We don't do that Create something where we can bring these the first year we might have had. I don't know a twenty people getting plants from us and then the next time we did we had forty last time. We did it. We had one hundred and eighty people buying plans. We had like five thousand plants. We sold so it's kind of it's really growing. I would say. I don't know that it's exponential elaborates growing dramatically in terms of the number of people. Every time he put out. I mean this now people who emailed me straight out of the blue and say are you guys. Doing plants elliott like. Oh well you hold it to be usually once in spring and we do it once and for all because actually for perennial plants fall is also a very good time to plant. Because then they go dormant mechanic you know establish themselves when the winter comes they go dormant and the protect roots and then come spring. They'll just bring back to life so false actually a good time to plant so spring flow plant sales and then we started doing some approved last year. What we did was cove There were a number of organizations in town One which could not one which was used to doing Growing food feeding the homeless Person feeding Food food pantries. Some of the preserves things like that and got together and we launched something called the summer program to fight hunger and climate change. What we did was. We just went to school students. And said hey. Are you stuck of being. Are you really tired of being stuck at home. All by yourself in front of zoom all through summer instead. Why don't you come outdoors. We'll math work in small groups. You can learn how to grow food. The food that you grow will be donated to homeless shelters right then. We ought to food pantries. Real work in the preserve chubut. Composting will teach you about planting replan. Teach you about native plants. We'll teach you just basically walk in the preserves the space eleven like we are so i mean i tell people look you know especially long island and you don't know how blessed this earth as you get free out of the sky so many times of the year the short of water the ground is beautiful to grow. It's hard like pulling rocks their new hampshire or they are in parts of india right. I mean you don't have drought. You like really. it's such. It's such a great pleasure. If your garden it's such a pleasure to and then we have such rich coastal life. We have such good preserves. We have such a lot to be thankful for if you enjoy nature and so that's kind of what we got the interesting thing when i talk to youth nap and i don't know if you noticed this. This sort of seems to be the first generation where their relationship to nature is different. That was a young person. I don't know about you when you say oh you know what we're going out to the forest hills you're going to yosemite you're like excited. Oh like ongoing pristine. When is he bears. I'm gonna see this. I'm going to see that you get that sense of nature as vibrant adventurous Something that is Full of life and all that this is the first generation their associations with nature is negative. It's kind of like. Oh my god you know. Is this going to be there. Let's go and see the mom fight but is it going to be endangered. Ever be you know. Be there when i grow up. I'm going to seventy but is it going to be you know. Climate change is gonna affect it and is it going to be eaten up by beatles. I mean they're they're association. You tell them by the oceans and they're like all the patch it's full of like plastics and micro-plastics. What can we do about it. So associations with nature of full of ninety and then on top of that we have covert me have global warming and then we had one of the most toxic political seasons right going on last year so getting away from all that right not talking about all of that and saying what can we do. That will help us help our people around us and help all the beings around us but just thinking in terms of those three circles of like he'll better. This was brilliant. It was a great success because young people london like the they had. Many of them are not planted. Maybe water to help their day. You know they never like donald plants and seem them and gone through. Lake say tomato producing season or zucchinis. Or this or carrots or okra. They're not gone into preserves its interests very fun for them. Several of them came back and help us organize this year this year. Last year we had twelve pull. Were doing it as an intern this year. We have almost twenty young people as interns and an additional volunteers. They're all committed to sixteen weeks of work four hours a week so really getting a lot of energy and i think that's a big part of it the big part of it as you said looking hoses change going to come about the change is gonna come about is the next generation of consumers. Start caring about something but you say capitalism socialism. I don't care that comes out by government fiat or private citizen action or by corporation during most likely it's going to be all three but that happens by changing the mindset where somebody says i want this right willing to work extra for it. I'm going to pay for it. A mill. i and you change. Is you put you know when when once you start waking people up to the reality they they look at a lawn and they don't necessarily see. Just the human uses own agree for burden a pasture on which i can lie down and enjoy the also think about. Oh this concerns a lot of water. This is pesticide. Why don't we take a little bit of that. Maybe i can light on the side of the lawn and enjoy when that side has you know. some eight of plants on it and has some use strike and bring bs place. 'cause only thing that you'll see alana's maybe or something like that. There's nothing else survives on the long. If you put a few plants get like at least some of that. Wildlife it's kind of really weakening consciousness weakening or marketing or. Call it whatever you. There's just an awareness and changing how you relate to all these things right. So that's what he isn't the journey and you're already have a lot of people. Ask me the funny thing is One of our interns. Charlie such so the new york times called us and said oh what about the climate e is any but you can talk to and i said we'll talk to me because i'm the founder you. Why don't you talk to some of our younger organizers and the quoted them and you know just last week a little piece on climate anxiety and said we were long island is doing this and suddenly i get calls from somebody wrote me from maine saying oh my god you know i have the same thing. Somebody from the jesse. Hey you know if normalization that does this in here somebody from minnesota wrote to me from this. Somebody from south africa wrote to us somebody from canada. It's just like you. You see what i'm saying. It's not it's not a problem. That's only on long island. I think that you see the trickles of that. And i think it will grow into something much more stronger. No i was going to bring it back when you get to. This idea of an levittown was An important development but it was modelled by the rest of the world because it was a success. Hopefully your What you what you got it here is going to be a model for the rest of the world but again coming back to where i started long island very big a have your website up there. We wild long island at org guilty that most people finding new m A reason i just brought up long island is very big again is because you're in nassau county. There's a long way from where you are to montauk point which is probably ninety miles and clearly had how do you expand that out so that it rewired long island generally really genuinely speaks to long island rather than just small part of mass county so no. That's great that's a very very good excellent point right because that is that is very important. Point citizen action right. There's only so much so many volunteer hours that somebody from washington community input washington. So let's start and radiate out so the last time he did plant sales we did it in five locations. For exactly the reason you said right somebody in huntington put up their hand and said oh you know what. I think. We can do this in our neighborhood. The audubon society to nurture the huntington always to be Society said oh yeah we have a huge upper hand and then for the first time on long island. There is a native plant. You know somebody who's selling native came s natives lake girl right montoc getting their to your so. He did say close. I know so. Maybe matt you you get together with a couple of years and you greet a host plant sale. And i'll get you the plants and distribution them then guess what we put out a little dot on the map and get it but it's really seriously though it's it's totally look. We are not. I had a day job. So i'm not going to not doing this as a full time occupation. All of us are volunteers gets paid so we do it at a passion and things like that not has its advantages but it also has its limits and so what i would say savior option about it the best way. You can spread the if you if you live on long island and would like to connect with us. Great do so especially if you can get a couple of neighbors a couple of friends or whatever the star loop or think about this starting something around this area very happy to work locked up again. Give me one second here. Let me see if i fix this. Lsu back as you hello. i'm i lost. You will locked up again. I don't know if you can hear me. I can't hear you i. I think i hear you talk to me. No you can you hear me. Let me see dan. We're just getting to the the climax as they say. Hello you're there. Nope will locked up. I apologize for this folks Maybe we can not complain studio rachel. If you can leave the studio and come back in kick from studio well anyway reach rewired long island dot org is where i guess you can up here. We go has any acid bandwidth this as we have to deal with it sometimes So best place for people who gets Started by going to the website or do they have to come to a physical event now. Just perfect website is great. And there's a lot of people that are just on the web and connect us to us with the web and We do whatever we can to hell no matter where you are but obviously our focus is on long island lot of the stuff that you read on. On our website and plants especially array specificity koreans but there are some good resources out on the internet the audubon database wildflower dot org this a number of sites where you can just put in your zip code and know what plans are local to your equal region how you can get them and And you can start that way. Some of the general advice on how this helps your ecology and silence for that. You can see the other thing. We are very big honest like testimonials meaning people who do it. I have never known anybody to successfully add native plants two hundred square and then stop there usually becomes victim because in the sense that they do it and they see what a big difference that makes and then they're like oh this is the corner and hey that's a place behind the shed where nothing grows and maybe i could put a couple of and they'll grow anywhere you don't need very much care but you know it still needs when you put a plant and you always have some intruments. There's no doubt about that and you have to water it and so on and so forth but it's much easier. I found this dramatically easier and much more rewarding card. I can attest to that and and As i mentioned i i've kinda done it unintentionally but we're at the same place where you are now all well full of Just things that grow naturally in this area. I'm not sure if They are the ones that the same ones. I would get if i went online and and research stuff but they seem to be More natural habitat Up here and i agree. And i applaud you and i i I wish you a lot of success. And i hope people will even if they no ahead go ahead sorry is invasive so very often a lot of things will settle in like bury your a whole bunch of things that don't really belong to our original of insists. Be careful about that and make sure that you're not propagating invasive so so so you have to be thoughtful deliberate do nothing is not an option. It's not like i can just let it alone. Then you'll end up with the wild and truly your neighbors will be marriage you for the right thing right so gardening. It's still maintenance. Make sure you it looks good. Make sure that you're not like driving home. Values and property values. You know having good neighbor relations. I think trump's anything else agree I do hope As i mentioned meanwhile responsibly. As i mentioned this Been kind of focused on long island by by Just a matter of fact you are based on long island. But i hope there are places. 'cause we reach all over the country all over the world. I hope there are people who might get excited by this. No matter where they live and kind of look into doing it where wherever they are in kind of usual website as a model for how to get started with this so You know maybe this is the first step in helping this stuff grow so i appreciate your time here. I i really appreciate all. You're doing For your community and hopefully it will spread to other communities. Then that's all we can for. Well it looks like we're out of bandwidth which is probably a good place to end. Rajoub i thank you for coming. I wish you great success and please keep in touch and we'll be following up with you and and and trying to spread the message so Until we meet again. Thank you for coming to have a great day. And by for now as you john folks We had a little bandwith trouble at the end. There i apologize for that. I hope things are a good way you are you able to really absorb the information. I hope you got a lot out of it and And benefited from this program. And i hope if you If these ideas resonate with you that you will share them. Check out his website. See again. rewired long island dot org And see if it's applicable to where you live. Nc if it's something that you can possibly apply to your landscaping in your yard. It's that's program for today. i hope you enjoy it. Hope you got a lot out of it. hope you will take some action on so Until next time. Next time is At atm when i authored games irving wouldn't make and we're going to talk about his latest novel period. So that good. Thanks for joining me. Have reread round round bad around off. Melissa listen to million down.

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LeBron passes Jordan

"Long enough. What is this? It took years. I kept playing. Fourteen fifteen times crazy. Congrats man, you deserve it. A better guy. Yeah. Channing frye. Richard Jefferson roasting their own teammate on past again J on the all time scoring list. And of course, they're joking about the passing LeBron actually tenth on the all time assists list guys how big a deal visit that he's the only player to be on the top ten in the NBA's both. Assists scoring all time leaders. Tell us on Instagram. That's how I found out. But I'll tell you what it's huge. I mean in the history of the NBA, it'd be the top ten in both categories that huge anybody else will do it. At least for a long long time kind of goes back to buy for him passing scoring for someone who in his mind, he doesn't consider himself before that he modeled more Magic Johnson in that way. Go head at all. There was like a chicken wing in and out with that video. I don't know what was happening there. Go ahead. What's your pronouncement, Tyrone Bigham? Tyrone Bigham look now. Franken we're whatever he wants welcome to the job. I'm Rachel Nichols alongside our front office insider amino has an and the coach. Dan, Van Gundy is with us coming up. We'll talk about whether it is bad looked version Rondo to be sitting not close to his teammates in the final minutes of the Lakers lost the nuggets that but first let's face it. Things have been weird in Chicago. The bulls of had three coaches in five years entertain squabbles. Resulted in long emotional Instagram posts, one player broke another player's joh-. There's been a near mutiny a very murky leadership council that seems to involve roughly half the team. And I'm not even gonna get into the fact that one of the arena workers filed a fifty thousand dollar lawsuit against many the bowl. Really? So it's hard to say whether what happened last night against the Sixers even cracks the top five of recent odd moments. But it was plenty just the same. I mean for most of the night. It looked like what you would expect from Chicago team that came into the game with an eighteen and forty seven record. Now the bowl did have one really nice play in the third quarter. Ryan Archie the. There we go saved the ball. He didn't I didn't have to back to quarter through the alleys. Yes. That is to Todd clam conscious. I was practicing his name all morning. Early that seemed like it was going to be the best to of night as the Sixers went up double digits in the fourth quarter except LeVine went from already to dealing powering eight ten oh bulls run by the time the clock down to four point eight seconds xactly had thirty seven points. The Sixers were clinging to a one point lead. The bolt had the ball were about to impound. And if you're in Philadelphia uniform your instructions at that point are pretty much make anyone but LeVine take the final shot. Here's how it happened Levin to Robin. Lopez take a look here in bounds. It Rollo simple. Handoff vaccine. To score the game winner gonna make sure. Weirdest. Sixers defense doubling down on the Lopez twain who isn't a big threat shooting from distance leading Levin as you say, Dan have all the space. He would need. Philadelphia did still have one shot. Go at recouping the game with just a half second on the clock. Sixers striper catch and shoot Simmons. Lobbing the ball Jimmy Butler except the lobby short. The buzzer. Sounds everyone goes home. Oh, wait, no watch. Again officials later determining the game clock restarted early. But of course, they determine that through video review, which can take forever. And by the time they actually decided they needed to replay the final moments of the game. Most of the fans have left both teams had gone back to their locker room. Butler had apparently even had time to get in a post game dig at the coaching staff. Here's a tweet from Chicago radio producer. Tony gill. Gil describing here how the Sixers got the news. They might have to come back to the floor and how Jimmy Butler was heard yelling. We better draw up a better blank play. If we do Brett Brown was close enough to hear it Gill also votes. Indeed. I guess Brett was because when the teams finally didn't come out to replay the final half second this time round called the play for Butler except Butler viable that. Couldn't even get the shot off before time expired real this time, you may notice by the way auto porter, jR, not on the floor for the bulls in that moment, that's because so much time had passed. He was already being drunk. Muscials by the time. The teams were called back here is explaining what happened. Try to make an appeal and say, hey tomato for actually I was already in mid. Stride. Oh. And look even with all this weirdness. We should not overlook that. The bulls got the win against a team. They were supposed to lose to in fact, take a look at these numbers since the Otto porter trade, Chicago is seven five their offensive efficiency has jumped from dead last in the league thirtieth to eighth in the period since the trade, Larry marketing, his look great and look at what acquiring porter has done for that LeVine in particular, those are his numbers before the trade versus what he is averaging since all in all it has been a good stretch for the bulls who have sorely needed it, even if it has been low weird STAN the bulls feel like they have been rebuilding for quite some time. There's was a take season. They won too many games to do that. They've had crazy lows this year. They lost the game by more than fifty points. They have had some highs. But some nice wins. How long do think it will be before this team actually turns the corner still think it'll be a while? Look I like they're three guys right now, the young guys I like Markkanen I LeVine as is emerging as a. Score and auto Porter's played well for them. But I don't trust these late season. Surges in games that don't mean anything we see teams do it. A couple of teams every year in the NBA. We think it's the stepping stone to the next season. And it's not. Yeah. I liked their building blocks they have massive holes that the good news is they have a Catholics ability. We've got a good pick inventory coming and these are young players that you can legitimately feel good about. I like the auto Puerto deal a lot of people out of Puertas contract. He's a productive player. He may not be as productive as what his salary commands. But for team that doesn't have any salary issues or or basically heavy contracts to worry about he's exactly what they need. Here's a a grownup in that locker room, a good a good influence, and so they they're moving the right direction. The question I asked though is the Chicago have a stigma about it because you look back, and it's goes back. Before gar forming, and John Paxson goes back to people said you treated, the greatest player of all time like this to coach of all time like this. How are you going to treat us, right? And so they had cat space in two thousand and swung. And they missed and it feels like ever since the break-up of the balls dynasty Chicago's always been this place where they struggle to get free agents. Even though it's a great city, and it's a marquee market. And all those things. Well, that was part of the base of the porter Dale right that they would instead of having free money this summer that they were gonna actually trade for someone instead to require them to be there. I would argue by the way, they did this Acklin contract. That's not nothing on their books. But. Limit them. They still have great flexibility to go out and add more town, if they if they can absolutely no, absolutely. And porter has been more aggressive for them, which I know is something Scotty Brooks would have loved to have seen in. But he's the whipping boy anymore. He became the whipping boy in Washington. So it was he was the guy that got pointed to is not giving them enough. Now the pressure off of him. He can be more aggressive and play more freely. And we're seeing an improved auto porter. I agree with the mean, he's a good solid player. And I think they've got a decent core of three guys to build around. They're playing pretty hard. I just gotta see it in meaningful names before I'm going to believe it. It's not meaningful at all. In fact, they gotta keep a little careful that they don't too much because we saw that happened there safe with. It isn't meaningful game though for Philadelphia. And I wanna shift our attention to the Sixers. They're only one game behind the Pacers for the third spot. If the playoffs started today. Philly would see Boston in the first round we have chronicled their struggles in that matchup countless times. So are the Sixers wasting STAN that opportunity to gain ground on the Pacers. But will Victor, Allah depot and get into that three spot. So that they don't have to look at the Celtics. Joel Embiid coming back that they're they're going to get by the Pacers and avoid that first round matchup with the Celtics. I personally I would love to see that first round matchup because the first round generally, isn't that interesting that one would be real interesting because either team that lost that would really have some problems fade in terms of perception. Yes, so I'd love to see it. But I don't think it's going to happen. Stands reading for cast. Mazing really interesting. It's good TV the thing Rachel last week. When you were in Boston hosted the Dublin did the monologue was about the Lakers and they wanna make the playoffs. The the one thing you can't do is mess up the non-negotiables. This is a non negotiable. You can't lose. I don't care from beat plays. You can't lose Chicago. I don't care. Well, they've been playing recently, you cannot lose to Chicago. And so these are the games that will come back and bikes you in the you know, what? And then you end up in a situation where we could have played a scrappy Brooklyn nets team. Instead, we're playing team has aspirants to win the championship in the front, and you can't just. We're talking about in these moments. This stretch of the year is the attention to detail the things that we're not gonna mess up. We're gonna get beat by great authors. We're gonna get beat by great place. We're not gonna get beat by two guys up, Robin. Lopez. No. And look your communications got to be better way. Because you're gonna play close games in the playoffs. You're going to have to win those close games. You cannot make those kind of stakes that in and of itself because again, Robin Lopez not his brother does not make shots from there that he's he doesn't he's got ten coup. No, he wasn't behind the arc. But kid huge first quarter last night. Maybe they were still even again anyone. But Zach LeVine they couldn't afford. It was like what was that wall of defenders that the Atlanta Hawks put on harden or something to engines streak like declaration at thirty seven points at that point just they with him hoping he looks shot. Play did a little bit was supposed to take. If you listen to them after the game. He was supposed to take that handoff from low at the boat and pass it because they assumed he would so much attention. And instead psycho, I think let's get to the really important issue of this game the ninja style headband the Jimmy Butler sporting last night and mean thoughts. Look someone in the league office have conversation with Nike. We gotta stop this. Drew holiday. You're on the list as well. This is this is not karate kid to glory of love is playing in the background. Right. There is not walk into that door. We can't have it looks ridiculous. It's not even earthen omic. Tassels wine everywhere. One of those listen, I'm the last person that should comment on style. It just something. I should never talk about. But I'm with the mean, I don't I don't like the look, I re I would advise anybody to go on the internet and see your straight outta Detroit album cover. Oh, yeah. I would argue that you last person to comment on dial. You are all about stiles. Damning quick Jerry slow used to have a rule. No headbands at all. I wonder what like if dairy Sloan today. Well, how you feel about the ninja style. Well, no, look at Riley had that rule to until the Bonn rule cheese exchange coming up. We'll talk about Andre Drummond. Not happy about catching a bow. From dodge Gibson last night, Taj, call an accident. We'll discuss that. But first time for our district replay. It's this date in one thousand nine hundred three featuring Tim Hardaway. Yes. Golden State does. Yeah. This is. Oh, and so. For the year later the player in the. Got that dribble. Best in the league. This is for the jump. Rachel maker miss league. Make miss. What? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's nice. Was it better than this behind the back and Dr? Your. Taking it. Orlando in Detroit vicious, my guy. What about you? Shamgar making a widget comeback. This guy is a great story about him in Washington Post about that move and how it's taken over the over the NBA again this year, everything all new again. All right. Miss board. The nets beat the Cavs last night and the bench was back at it eventually rations with Brooklyn great. Take a look. Gotta go. I love spirit. That that's what it should be. Like, that's why that's how the game is when you're all in it EDSA team. They're doubly when all time great team. Is you need vets? Like, cancel the most fun. He's ever had on any team been on. So. Conference llanos. Make saving time. Lebron trying to save some time last night off the impound. Backfires? Turnover. This is. Three of our game. But he's done this a few times this year, Paul said, he knew to look for it. This is this is not a dome play. This is a Cancun play. Lazy? This. I feel like we should be is this supposed to be the charity fund. Would move to eleven to go. What do you say? They're miss hang time saying LA, rookie mo- Wagner. A little mishap. There rejected the rim. By the rim protected by the room. I think it's supposed to say there. What should you do differently? Next time. Stan coach them up. I would tell. Gosh, coaching right there. Early two time all star coach right here. Oh, that's running back. The top three buddy is done fails of all time will honorable mention here because it was after the whistle. But we gotta show at mellow getting turned away by the rim, import Lund's. Yeah. Worth a live one solvent. I would argue. That's not the worst thing that happened to him that year in the Knicks uniform. But anyway, number three engine bargain. E news dump fails over. Get near enough to fail that was like a an almost. All right. Number two. Von wait for the wizards in two thousand. Florida state heat. He thinks he makes the dunk. So he's old. Guy, of course, playing with the live and number one tyrus Thomas king since two thousand seven everything that wrong. That's just a whole on. No, no, no. And no, that's not. No, that's not that all of those Deng fails after the year two thousand so the players from the earlier errors should thank you too for not being around because we're not watching their shoe. I'm sure there's an incident in Detroit last night, Taj Gibson receiving a flagrant to injection elbowing, Andre Drummond and he fourth quarter of last night's game. Two had a heated exchange after the elbow is. Well, after the game ties Gibson said, it was accidents, not malicious on sort of see less curse words. More curse words. They're less curse. Words talk to the press. He just part of the game standing if you still been there. What you've been yelling? What would you would you feel where do you stand on this? I would've yelled in liked the fact that he got a jacket and the whole thing. But I think it was accidental. He meant to hitting. Yeah. Andre Drummond a great offense. Rebounder, coming hard Taj was gonna hit him hard. But I don't think he meant to hit him above that. I think when you look at the play the full play obviously garden on maker. And then at the shot goes up. He's aware that as co said Andre Drummond when the best offense in the game. You got to put a body on them fan. So he's trying to get a position and he's trying to initiate. The contact Andrei wasn't standing all the way. And that's where we should have been in his chest ended up in his gullet area. Well, right, but that's pretty that can be very dangerous. No question. It was the right call whites flagrant to but not about the intent. It's about any hit above the shoulders. The difference between reckless militias doesn't have to be malicious to be reckless. And that can be just as picky was either one. But it was still the right call. I just think he was that's a guy you have to hit hard. He's a great offensive rebounder. He's a big guy Taj new like you can't just step in there. It went to hit him hard. Amine described it perfectly and he just came into high because if he doesn't if he doesn't lift up that on if he just moved his body ends of having a guy like underdone, a smart enough to just in the lower back shove them until he's under the basket. And now compromise you can't get too. So you have to meet force with force. But it just it's an unfortunate put jump after dark where we do all of these out the little logo over their mouth, sir. Coming up. Our lakers. Reporter David vitamin is gonna join us here to talk about LeBron passing Jammie all time scoring list. How Lakers fans will deal with the brunt eventually passing Kobe? Bryant is up next cigarette. Brand you're watching the mercury Morris thing. Musics coming. You know, what that means it Saturday Prime time Lakers Celtics, we've been talking all week about the way they've arranged the photos guys stand. Do you like that little these looking at him? He's it says a lot of saying. Countdown starts at eight eastern on ABC. Catch it everywhere. One person. I know we'll be at that game Saturday Daping. Quarter joining us on the jump. Thank you very much for being here. I want to start with the biggest story from last night's game. Of course, LeBron passing Michael Jordan for fourth place on the all time scoring list scored on that an one which allowed the crowd, his teammates and time to react to the accomplishment. But I don't know I wouldn't call it. A string moment in the building right of if I were in the building and it didn't feel like oh my God. So majors happen today. Michael Jordan released a statement saying I want to congratulate LeBron cheating another great milestone during career not exactly the woman statement we ever heard in a sharp contrast. I would actually say ten LeBron Dave got been emotional after the game. It was very heartfelt talking about MJ being this real beacon to him about he had this tough childhood. And that being able to see 'em MJ's example, made him feel like okay, I could do that that he couldn't afford Ordonez growing up, and he would go to the mall and stand outside the shoe store and look at Jordan's posters in the window. So you're that. Compared to the MJ statement. Good perspective on all this because you worked in Cleveland, and you saw the warmth between him and the fans there, and then the moment in LA last night was a better worse that he did this. What's the he did this say twenty sixteen for the home fans around some of you know, locker room with the teammates where his good friend. It would have been a better moment. But also this is career complement thirty two thousand points last night to take into account the time he had in my time in Cleveland, and you know, really magic what what Michael do the last three thousand of his career with the wizards. So it's not like he's only taking down Michael Jordan's legacy as a bowl also. So, you know, NBA rules for the Lakers from stopping the game in that moment. I think that would've added to the moment had they may do that in retrospect should've getting LeBron the ball. He would have held it up over said, they would've agitated him to fans. Listen, better worse. I is. Accomplishment. Make everybody pause about what they've been through in their life. I walked out of the Reno last night with young masseuse. We were talking about the Michael Jordan posted be at an our walls. Kids he tapped into that kind of young fandom that got us all excited about the game. Now. Absolutely. It was a great accomplishment. I sort of wish it it come in in Cleveland, and he had gotten a better response. But you know, that's just not the way it worked out. It doesn't take away from what he's done in his career. Let's be honest. The Lakers the four seed right now and the red rock enroll he would have gotten a huge ovation. I think a lot of it is not because he didn't score as a Laker is because it's a reflection of the disappointment. Laker fans have about the season. He's they've had. I mean, no one wants to set a big milestone loss. This was not just a loss in terms of this game. This is sort of a loss of the season. Not the best timing if he'd even done this just the beginning of the year I game. Even the worst is he doesn't have that bond with his teammates. So it's one thing about the crowd. But his teammates were lukewarm to the whole thing. I mean at part of it's the losing part of it's his first year in part of the whole Anthony Davis thing, but it's not like his teammates embraced him. In that in that moment. There's another layer to all this, by the way, guys because guess his next underscoring last call me Bryant, he trails by more than thirteen hundred points. Dave, flip you cover the Lakers with Kobe. So, you know, the whole spectrum of Koby media Kohistan, right? What happens the day LeBron passes Gobi if it happens? Lebron would be passing the most popular Laker on the planet Kelly Bryant, and if they continue to lose it's going to be ugly moment, I mean, this is Michael Jordan is that owned by Lakers fan. He's on my own by Lakers, cutting Koby is owned by Laker fan, twenty out of twenty seasons rocking number eight rocking. The number twenty four building this legendary career that LeBron as to try to match up to LeBron also is so far only played on a loser when Kobe five championships. And so as lukewarm last night reception was it'll be downright ugly. If they are losing next year when he passes I hope he passes him on the road. I really do. I hope he passes him on the road be great. If it could be in Cleveland or somewhere, but he passes him on the road. And then don't even mention it when he comes home the next game. And never have coach knows this. We the nation of Kobe STAN is a very proud nation that there's capitals downtown to make ULA. They look they more than anything support. This pre leader who is Coby Bryan. And so the idea of the already hated to here than we talk about Michael the Bronx. They're the ones that where's combing about Kobe is the best of all time. So the idea that in the midst of this lack of successful abroad that he would be celebrating cherish as better than the supreme leader would be outraged blasphemy take to the streets. I think they're going to have to see it. So we'll just we'll just hold on. Yes. Speaking of things fans are up in arms about let's get to resign Rondo. He sat courtside seat instead of on the Lakers bench during the final minute of the game. Now, of course, I was mentioned it's not an actual bench. It's also seats. So this little bit of distinction without a difference. But he was closer, right? Was to the east closer to chains. And he was to his teammates. Stan you're not happy about this. Not at all bad. Looking. I read his comments today. Shany's done it before that doesn't make it better. That makes it worse. The last thing you wanna see is in times of adversity your team separating and we've seen that from him. And we've seen it from the Bronx, quite honestly when he said a long way away from his teammates, they can try to rationalize it. Anyway, they want their veteran players, and if they're really looking in the mirror and be an honest. They know it's wrong. We don't coach if you you have to do something about. What I don't know. It depends know, I don't have a relationship with Regine Rondo. But you can't just let that go. These are bad moment in his lot worse than LeBron. Lebron should be closer to his teammates. But he's still on the bench, but regime, Rondo long way from the pen down that were other people there, and then they got up whatever. Tacos debut talked to about the resign. He met with magic and rob Pelinka this morning, and basically they express MB rules. Not to be seeing. Accepted that was the bad look. But you know, he's said he's playing me. He was just in his own head in the moment. I was standing at the edge of the court when he came off the court only last minute of the game he got up he high fives. Teammates, he walked off the court with his teammates as a unit. And so I I think it's a little overblown here in even we showed that shot from Indiana. He's in that shot at Indiana. He is sitting in court side seat, not on the bench. And so why won't we talking about him? Then I mean, so I wasn't watching that game. On the phone everybody. Everyone's talking about the pro here's the when you're a leader. I think regime Rondo is a leader wants to be a leader. You have to be concerned about perception. And how it's going to look to your teammates and to fans and things like that. So I understand he's only in his own head. I'm not saying you have to make big deal about it and suspend guy, but he has to be aware as a leader. How that looks that's part of his job. And you can't just go sit away from your teammate. They're not gonna find them. I watched him pre-game the other night on the court throwing baseball south passes to his teammates fastballs. And then javale McGee sitting up as a catcher and Casey piece any umpire. I mean, he's still doing stuff like that. And we're not talking about that. Like, it's some amazing things. There has to be some. I guess we did agree with that. And like I said, I think he's a leader. I think he's taken on that mantle. But that means all the time, unfortunately. And so I don't look I'm not saying he should be suspended. I'm not even saying he should be fine. The fact that they met with them. I think is good. But you can't just let it go. The thing. I'll add onto Dave is kind of what we talked about Taj Gibson in that. Foulds was reckless militias. Maybe not. But it's not a good. Look. He knows the context of what this team is going to right now. He knows what the context is. So even doing that back in February is not as agreed as doing it right now. When literally everything is what he did. After the game. He went home broke down two hours of film and gave tips cruise. What he did? What matters. What actually this? It's not the war like he can do both. Me mad at us watching. But if the other guys on the bench don't care about why should we care because then they got to deal with the questions. Even if it does matter guy, we'll wait a minute. But it's even if it does matter to the guys on the team, they're so young. They're not going to say anything to him. So the line will be oh, it doesn't matter to them. I don't think you know, that one way or another. I honestly don't and look, I don't I'm with you. We shouldn't be blowing it up into something bigger than it is. But it does matter that's all lay down on the court when you wanna be somebody as a letter. Dennis rodman. We're talking about it because they've lost fifteen nineteen, but that's important and semi to. But. But that's important. And I think a mean brings up a good point there. Yeah. If you're seventy two and ten it doesn't matter at this point does because it's going bad. And that's where all these things matter and this team needs to come together. More they've been through a lot it matters. Yeah. Just making him the flash point of what's wrong. Oh, no. No, no. I am not doing that. Just going to say that the odds of Dennis Rodman reference on today's show. We're very low. So thank you. Absolutely. Thank you for joining us today. We will see you over the weekend. Huge ABC game on Saturday and coming up, Stu. Turn radius. Is it just gonna play a game or something? Nothing. Everything helping of a deal was Gordon Hayward game winner last night. Stay tuned to find out. But here's what the recommends for today, our friend. Brian Windhorst has a column on the ESPN app. Breaking down. What's keeps Commissioner Adam silver up at night? Does check out the piece for more details on issues like market size imbalances, mental health for the Lee. I'm Kevin Godley tonight on sportscenter with the Steelers are asking for for Antonio Brown. NFL attentional train Tim Kirk reacts a major league baseball new policy on lineups with expanded legalized gambling. And even as mistake on Rondo benching himself away from his teammates tonight, six eastern after PTI. With no further ado now joining the job co host of the Dan lebatardshow was to guts. Instead thanksgiving alley. During the break. What stand? Did you say to me? I asked just ask you if you thought this through. Stare question. Go wrong is normally what we say. But there's a long list to answer that question hold for that. And then Blair favorite game on the job Sunday. Nothing more. Let's talk about the Miami Heat. They're currently in the in the Eastern Conference every day. I switched my change my mind, I wasn't. They're gonna make the playoffs or not do you think this playoff push is something nothing or everything. Mr miami. Something from the standpoint that I think he'd fans wanna see way play a few extra games. I think it's nothing because once he'd get to the playoffs. They're not going to beat whoever the first round opponent is. So I will give it a little bit about something for Wayne wage. That's big he get to see him play. Maybe an extra three or four games. And nothing from the point that he will do nothing once they make nothing snuffing. Very good snuffing already terrible. I'm going to butcher the. Actually, chime in with excruciating for me because it looks as it's going to be there Miami Orlando two of my best friends in the business as I worked with for a long time. So that's a tough one for me at like to boat make it, but I don't see that happening a lot. I mean, Orlando's making a pretty serious Bush. They've had a great couple of months. I mean, what do you say, you know, the the main thing about Miami's this is so central that we don't tank don't give up on season. And to me, that's something. It's something for them to want to extend this not just for doing way. Because that's what we do. That's why Pat Riley sit down advertise when the teacher says culture on it. Absolutely. All right. Let's go over to Boston. Gordon? Hayward hitting a game winner last night for the Celtics after he score thirty off the bench and that blow out over the wizards the night before. So Gordon Hayward not had the best season. So seeing him around into for Mike this something nothing every something because you know, hope. Really builds his confidence a little, but I got to see more of this for for it to be everything. I would say everything because. Yeah, I would say no, I would say it's everything because I said before the season, I thought the Celtics were the only team that could beat the Golden State Warriors invested seven of Gordon Hayward and get back to being the Gordon Hayward. He was or something close to that before the injury that I think the Celtics I think they have a great shot of getting through the east of Hayward gonna play like this. It'd be we made Southie at continues to improve it gives them one more weapon to me. And I think the Celtic could still get through the east, and if I would play like this narrow team that could be the Golden State Warriors in the NBA final. That's a long way. I don't know if they get that for Brian winters yesterday said that he's the factor. If he's going to be an Hayward is going to be next factor. These are the moments he needs to build up that confidence because for much of the season. He's looked like a shell of himself. And you wonder if he still has it in them at this stage at this level lettuce to be productive plan mind, but great piece in Gordon Hayward the other day on the SPN Abshot. But if about not only sort of what he has been going through in this recovery that whole George told him it took two years to get back to himself with that similar injuries. So him going through the second year make sense. But it was also I thought the most interesting part of that piece was Brad Stevens saying he mismanaged Hayward return that he was trying to push him to be the player. He thought he could be member. They have have a history together. And he thought that that would give Gordon confidence. Gordon wasn't able to do that in that moment. It created some resentment on other guys in the team wise he getting the shot. Earned it yet? It put unfair pressure on Gordon. So I like the self-awareness from Brad. And I like the fact that they feel that they've kind of got the formula more right right now. He works. That's great. But Celtics fans getting excited the probability is if you're looking at them as a championship team. They're gonna have to win four series on the road on the road. That's not gonna happen. Interesting. Wow. Standard STAN predicting their demise. Lastly rumors. The happy. Kevin Durant is just in the Knicks been let's see the speculation has been swirling since last off season. And you mentioned this on the show Jenner Miami like a thousand or two thousand times track. It's something nothing. Everything it something everything if he goes to the Knicks. It's nothing if he goes anywhere else. Nothing or everything. Listen from an NBA fan perspective. Okay. That's what I am fan. I am not standing Gundy. I'm not an insider amino hasn't. I'm not Rachel Nichols. Okay. I have just a Pam Kennedy. What? Kevin Durant did was he ruined. The balance of the NBA the team that could beat the Golden State Warriors is a team that has Kevin Durant on their keyed. And no one has that ability thunder were close they were up three one. Kevin durant? Couldn't get it done. So what did he do? He joined the team that he could beat which is not what sports is all about. So it is everything. Kevin durant? Decides to go to another team. Even if it's not the Knicks because that's the team that's gonna have the best shot, in my opinion, beating Golden State words, everything sees the segment he's gonna be like again, you're dragging me. About me. On one hand he thinks Kevin Durant has zero rings in his personal record budge troop because he defected to the best team that beat him on the other hand the uncovered audio today that right before free agent really to twenty six he said, the best thing for the NBA would be Kevin Durant. Went to the warriors. I did say that. Never heard of someone on the radio or on your show, flip flopping like them out stew. Secret has learned this very, well if you say enough things at enough platform conflict. Yes. And no one's really paying attention to be right. Charles barkley. Whatever they want because it's in so many crazy things like as just check. It's fine. What do you think of all these rumors about Kevin Durant about Kyrie Irving? The fact that the Knicks cleared all this cap space with no guarantee of what who will take it. What do you think of all this as you watch it happen more than Kevin Durant? So I understand what New York's doing I don't care about any of those rumors. I mean, I care about the reality win somebody signed somewhere. Then I'll care all these rumors. I don't care. I would say this is nothing. Oh, I would I would say that your opinions are linked because I think the fact that the Golden State Warriors have been so dominant these past couple years at everyone just assumes they're gonna win a third straight title. Again, is the reason why there's so much extra interest in the extracurricular stuff. There's not as much suspense over. What happened at the end of the season and people are yearning for a time when it is possibly a little bit more competitive a little bit more parody and for half a little bit less balance with more balance with the superstars around the league. I think that's why we're hearing a lot more of this stuff now. So we've got it already. I don't think they're going to win it this year. Don't so. You've said, so who do you think will I think whoever comes out of the east is going to win it number one? And in look Golden State, just it's what Draymond green said. You know, he he's getting on. I'm trying to get them going. But their defense continues to slide. They haven't defended all year their habits aren't good a can't necessarily just turn it on. I know they're going to be tough to be because of that offense. I think this is the year somebody's gonna take him down. All right. So you you said that you think that Boston's going to have to play their playoff series on the road. So therefore, you don't think they are making it to the finals that would leave sort of the top contenders in the east Milwaukee Toronto the Pacers still the right there right now, we don't expect them necessarily to get to the finals who do you think takes down Golden State. Well, I think anybody coming out of the can Milwaukee would be my favorite just because of what they've done not only in having the best record. But being a top three team at both ends of the floor. Those numbers work. They look like a championship team in the win the profile, right? You should be ashamed of yourself on a segment with him and with him. And once again, you're the the spicy person on the segments is having to every time. Radio show all the time. That's it. That's all I'm saying stands back anytime. He wants to view. We'll think about it. For joining us so much. We like it when you're here. Enjoy the rest of your LA vacation. Winchester working trip. For the. I can't even get through this. This date in one thousand nine hundred seven featuring Scottie Pippen who will be with us tomorrow on the show. Back-nine too long. Scotty Pippin on Scotty. Shorted tip off your weekend with our MBA Friday double header, the seventy Sixers and rockets at eight o'clock eastern this to be a good game. Then the nuggets and warriors face off. That's gonna be a good game because it has to determine seeding our coverage begins with MBA count, then center five eastern on ESPN. And the spin was trying to think about whether it was going to be tiebreaker. And I can't keep all those traits. So I'm gonna we'll get back to you before Friday. On the job for crunch time after beating the Knicks last night of three of four. Last five three in a row. Does mean mister Phoenix Suns fans week cited about this or worried about winning a little to Mars whenever you have a young team starts to play better and win games. It's never bad thing. Isn't it? Isn't it though? It's not a bad thing. I agree with the mean on that. But should fans be excited. I. Their season still going on. I think their fans dawn about five six weeks. While if they're in the bottom three they still have that like even chance at the fourteen percent of the first pick their odds to get there. Out of the bottom three. I'm. Wow. Rafted very high safe and not been able to do anything with it. Say one more plug for Kevin arnovitz story on the sons. If you have a ready yet, go to your app and do that. All right. Let's move onto the Fender and blazers game tonight. These teams have identical records, but they are not exactly headed in the same direction at the moment. Okay. See five out of their last six Portland returns home tonight after successful five two road trip. They are fighting for that number three seed, we'll definitely influence that by off bracket or you more confident in the thunder blazers tonight tonight Trail Blazers because they're at home overall. I like the thunder win Paul George's back. That's why struggle. We talked about it yesterday beyond the Paul George missing games recently. This team is really slipped defensively they were for a time the best team in the NBA leading candidate when he's out. They're not gonna play defensively. Even when he was playing the slippage at started before then opposites exacerbated when their best defenders out. So I'm gonna go Portland as well at this team. Has its stuff together? And there's we saw that long road trip that they're starting to find their rhythm, Oklahoma City, not so much. I mean to me the seating in the west is so important, not really even where are you with the three versus a four. But with the matchup ends up being with the bracket ends up being could determine or your first round out. Or are you a conference finalists and everyone in Portland was so disappointed with the way they lost in the first round of the playoffs. They need to win around to have that feeling back. You don't wanna play the warriors in the second round. That's where you go up this. Sure. Well, just. Just said about the warriors today. Quote, it's time for us to turn it up and lock it. In says the goal to speak in cliches and to clinch homecourt advantage stands for the warriors care about getting the number one seed in the west. Look last year. There's a very good chance would a lost a Houston. If Chris Paul wasn't her because they were on the road. They don't wanna take that chance again. Yes. The we talked about them not playing engaged not playing with purpose. I think this is one of those little mini goals. Right. You have to have goals for us to work towards the goal is just when the championship everything in the middle gets muddled. That's interesting to me because I've heard them say it many times even the season seems not important. We can beat anyone from anywhere that kind of thing. So this feels like a change of tune. But I do take that it might be a little bit of a tweak stamp. Thanks what. Defensively it's just not. Just have not not gonna get better. We'll be back tomorrow on ESPN. Thanks for watching today.

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111. The Tent Situation

Gotta Watch'em All - A Pokémon Podcast

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111. The Tent Situation

"What's going on token on trainers welcome to episode one hundred and eleven of gotta watch them all. The podcast bringing together trainers from every corner of pok mon phantom before watching along with an episode. Poke him on the series. Starting all the way back in episode one. But today we're gonna be watching episode one hundred and eleven. The ten situation got watch. Ause part of the book amount professor network. Today is saturday december. Twenty six two thousand twenty. I'm your host. Ken pescatore joined by my co host. Adam tuttle adam. Mary belated christmas. How are you man. what's up. Hey happy deli birds season. It's deliberate his daily bird season. This episode is actually just. It's one one one one a lot of one's one hundred one did you. Have you gotten your bird fixed. And poke among i have not have you. I have not gotten a shiny. I have not gotten a hundred percent. I did have to trades. That were lucky. That's it i have yet to. And even those are not a not that great and no shadow deli bird. This time no shadow deli bird. And i've legitimately done hundreds of the gift five friends gifts like it. It's it's kind of bonkers. Ask a ninety eight percent but all right. Well we'll get there. We'll touch on it when we get to put him on go but on today's show Pokemon go actually had an event last. Weekend centered around glaring. And mister mind that. I wanted to talk about because the community is up in arms and we discussed it on this week's lured up. Are you talking about the grows optics. I'm talking about all of it. Man the pose part. I love so much The players cup too wrapped up. And we're going to review the results. We'll take a closer look at orbital v. max there's lists that put him on dot com put together. There's also an orbital box out in stores and then we'll do our rewatch of pokemon series episode one eleven the tent situation. But let let's start with polka mongo. It there's you know we we. We have seasons running. We've got the holiday event running. We've got a lot of stuff going on in the game. It's been busy and it's been great but last weekend we had a seven ninety nine. Paid event ticketed. Event centered around glaring. Mr mime that was a bit lacklustre on paper. It didn't have much to do. You weren't getting legendary pokemon in the end you get. You're getting glaring. Mr mom and they put a seven ninety nine price tag on it This is similar events that we've seen in the past with regine genesis. Those were obviously legendary pokemon So for many in the community this kind of like felt different. Because mr mind doesn't have the same star power as say like agenda set. But also the biggie in my opinion was niantic. Did it make clear as to win mr mime. The glaring mister mind would become available for those. That didn't buy the ticket. And it's also important to note that this event was announced shortly after the poco mongo tour cancel event which is an eleven ninety nine ticketed events so the announced the cancer tour event and say. Hey this'll events coming up in february it's eleven ninety nine but in the meantime here's a seven thousand nine event that's happening next weekend in the community. Just kinda got up in arms saying what's all these paid events didn't feel good seem like the value was there For many now some in the community are were not taking into consideration the extras that come. With the event it came with incense battle passes lures coffins super incubator star pieces a bunch of stuff. But so for me. I was saying to everyone macau commodity comes with all these items. This great worth it but what. I've learned over the past week or so. Is that if people aren't into using these items and aren't purchasing these items anyway. They don't see the value in those items because they don't want them so it kinda have the community torn in the middle because the event itself was a little lackluster. Now for me. I enjoyed the event. I was done with it in an hour. I'm glad i got all those extras because those are things that i would typically pay for but like adam was alluding to in the beginning. It comes with this mr my impose which has kind of become this like like a statement in the community. Like when you see someone with the mind pos or you see a glare. Mr mr rhyme and a gym. It's like it. Just it sets the triggers community a bit. So at what are you. What are your thoughts on. Not just the the event so talk about your feelings on the event but the seven ninety nine price tag. How do you feel about that stuff. So as far as the event goes the items. I'm not one to normally by a puffins. I'm not to buy ultra balls. You know. I'm not one to buy battle passes. You know i i would rather buy a remote read pass then because it allows again. It's there's just like a lot of versus diversity that could use that with. I could get invited to a raid. I could invite others to raids. Especially if like you're on the move like if like obviously not driving being a passenger in the seat but like if i see a raid and i want to send people invites or if i just wanna do that raid moving. You know like 'cause. I'm not doing anything i'm sitting and i noticed this on christmas. It's like there's a raid. I want to do it. But i'm in the passenger seat and i can't do it right right and it was like cool. I have all these battle passes. What am i gonna do with them. Can't use them. Yeah but that's that's kind of very specific like you're saying that it at some point. You're not going to have an opportunity to use a standard battle. listen. I've been storing them. I keep getting more all these events that scab be one raid weekend one big raid weekend and you could use all of them if you do ten raids of one day. I mean it's like it's i will tell you obviously pass before. I used to a battle pass. We'll of course got to use the free one. I mean that's the the the ideal thing the ideal situation for me is that in the least doing seven raids a week. Because i'm using my free one every day like that's what i want to do. I mean i typically with with remote raids and everything in the mix. Now i'll probably do about twenty raids week or something like that if there's array day that might stack ten or fifteen more onto one one day but you know there's a lot of opinions here a lot of feelings that you know. The community is a little bit up in arms and the tag what. It's just not you think it's too much it just wasn't there for me. I i mean from from the event. And i understand quarantine i understand. We're in the pandemic and all that stuff. But i i understand all the stuff but reggie gibbs. When that event happened that was amazing. Like like that felt like being at go fast because the community came together and understand. The community can't come together like in certain ways. But there's gotta be a way to get your community together and it's like okay. What better way than communities via discord or anything like that like give us some remote read passes that we can. We can play with and be interactive with each other. Even though we're far apart that would have been more were. That's that's actually a gr- because what made the regius events so awesome was the fact that people were traveling impacts the do the reggie raids and finding hunt down a reg jason hunt down. Reggie rock and hunt down steel. You know that was cool by saying like hey would have been cool if they threw some remote passes in the event and then required raids as part of the event. That would have been cool. I didn't even think of that. Because then at least the community would be getting together even if it is remotely than just the tasks that were in the event like catch fifteen psychic. Poke him on. There was no joy in that there was no challenge in exactly he'd just waited for the pokemon and come to you remote rating would have been at least like saying okay. Let's get organized and let's do this together and then you could have had a group of trainers that could have completed the event together as a group Met adam i think you nailed it. Yeah i think like all the talks we've had about this. I think that would have been an awesome way to have a virtual event that still felt community driven. I think you nailed it. Do i think he did. Yeah and then. I mean also don't really enjoy being forced into an evolution that that just feels bad. That's that's that's the last thing. I'll say You know. I do like like the vent. Wasn't that great on all on a c. Like i had to have the incense to do anything. I understand like. That's what the event was about but at the same time it's just like just didn't feel like an event did anything going on to be fair though typically when they do a special research story or something like that even like limited research day years isn't much you know like substance to it. It's task driven. So i get a lot of people felt that way But for me. I mean getting that pose which i absolutely love. I've been rocking the power pose since the day poses came out. And this is the first time i've to change poses dowm using the mr mind post. I just think it's absolutely hilarious to see your avatar kind of like sweep into the screen you know from the side with jazz hands out like i just think it's so cool So for me it was worth it But you know it's we hear your opinions. Let us know what you thought of the mr mom event. Did you take part. What prevented you from. Not taking part if you didn't It's definitely a great topic and checkout lured up because we go in depth With the community on on community feelings and all that good stuff but it's definitely a great topic but added we all were also in the holiday events. So i know like you're saying you're hunting hunting deli bread pretty heavy but haven't had much luck. I apologize for you. I'm sorry are you haven't gotten your shiny. It's it's okay. I just feel like i. I've gone pretty hard in like this morning. I got the shiny statler in like that was cool and all but yesterday christmas exclusively caught deadly bird and i went so hard. You should've went hard today. Today was the day for delivered. I did go hard today and yesterday. Yeah i've had. I've had incense going like this entire event. How's your. I bought several l. looking well it's definitely low right now because i've been spending it on my hundred percent deli bird. That's my best buddy. Okay okay so you are. You are leveling one up forty. Yes nice nice. Yeah let me. That makes sense used a lot of the transferring to get xl candy. That's not a good value. No it's not but at the same time to one at the same time it's like i'm here already. I just want to get it done. Yeah yeah interesting interesting. But yeah a lot going on and pokemon go hopefully have better luck with delhi bird than adam has. I haven't had the luck either. But i haven't been going to to To heavy you know just me on twitter like listen i got you. I got four of them. And i'm like how tea cr d for well dude. He's the person that tagged you is like. He's got like six hundred thousand catches and you know he's heavy duty. There's a hardcore player there. A hardcore player. But all right. Well let's move onto the players cup and this is gonna this is gonna encompass vga anti-siege e and i'll talk about the first We saw like there. It's been going on for weeks. Pok mon dot com has been Sharing links for their twitter. I mean sharing links for their twitch. And there's been plenty of stuff going on there Us favourite wolfe glick who is also a contributor on pokemon dot com took first place and took advantage of the newly released pok mon being that he brought glaring foreign multipurpose and rapid strike style or few along with drag poll incentive roar in colossal and really boom. Wow david of to come second place with his reggie and single strike style. I if lineup Jean paul loop has luzia of peru to third place with very informed landers and glaring for multis and the is definitely seen some increased depth as of late with a significant diversity coming from the competitors because of the stuff that we're able to find in the crown tundra and the arm of armor. This is exciting. Every everyone in the top three brought something that was from that deal see so i think that was really cool and it was cool to see wolf. Glick bringing the glaring foreign wolters and rapid str- strike style issue To take first place it was really cool. Some of the batches were very very exciting. The streams were up on twitch. I believe other gonna be clipping that stuff out and putting it up on their youtube channel soon to make sure you check it out. Yeah they should be already up there. Yeah and and players cup. Three was already announced So that's worth talking about Playbook pokemon isn't giving too much time between players cup to employers cup three of its players going to be starting the beginning january and run through april. So it's coming very soon and the xs returning to the lineup for for for number three. Yeah i do know that the You should have your tickets for t c. g by the twenty sixth of january. Because that's i believe when they start for for for the teacher julia the actual match. I believe so. Yeah it's going to be in the same way that players come to a lot of similarities. Like what the keys and stuff exactly. Yeah every player. That logs in from october to january twenty fifth i think has has the ability to as your pokemon trainer club account trainer club linked to your tc geo you've got tickets nice. You've got tickets. Which is why. Don't you run us through some of the stuff. I kind skipped ahead here now. It's okay and it's like it's cool because there's a lot of new players picking this game up. There's a lot like i've just seen a lot like influx of trainers and it's awesome. There's a lot of tc geo codes floating around. Now it's been it's been gaining popularity in steam. And you know it's reflected when you go to the stores and you see like cleared out shelves. I mean it's been one literally. Nothing i mean i will say i will say christmas eve in like the last ten fifteen minutes. That walmart was open. I walked in. I forget what we're getting christmas sweater. Something walked in the card. Section was empty. Walk all the way to the back. And they had a stack of blast always g xboxes nice that special promo full light thing and they had a stack of crimson invasion bleak trainer boxes oh and as a quo and what's infront one. Loan champions path with the chargers are knows where i'm gonna take away just like grabbed him like walking around the like. I don't know if i'd like need this. But i'm just gonna hold on. It's christmas christmas. Merry christmas atom. So i got it. Obviously they all right but the players cup to after weeks of qualifiers and regionals. It's come to an end as expected. Hit brought some new talent into the mix in first place. We have zach. La- says from canada who used a peak around in bolton v deck. While i mean it's basically peak around but just tons of different variations In second place brent tonnison from australia who used a peak around as well the best part is both of these decks are running For enhanced hammer crushing hammer which is right flip a coin if heads discard and energy. So they're the main purpose of those is to slow down eighty p slowdown your posing decks to be able to just take advantage and get an extra attack in here or there. But i mean there's slight variations between the two lists mainly that zach chose to run to copy from youtube yuji x along with four carbon copies marnie rather than the three that ran Finally in third we saw hugo lapeer. Lapeer perry harry bucci butchering it canada. Who ran a welder. Geraci powerless cephlon deck with two successful t g player cups in the books. It's going to be interesting to see how play pokemon handles competitive play in two thousand twenty one season because we're still waiting for physical events. I understand that there's so much success here. Like what do they do. Well that's always be a part of it. Well that's the thing so it's like maybe they get four players cups in the book before worlds. They just invite like the top four from each of those players cups to have like a many worlds in london. Like i don't know what their plans. But they said that. Twenty twenty one. And i know nothing is set in stone but i can't imagine pokemon not attempting to try to get a world's in two thousand twenty one. Yeah but i mean who knows it really. It's it's not up to them. It's like of course they want to do it but if the world isn't ready that's gonna be the issue but what's interesting here is because the players cups have seen so much success especially on the tc side introducing you know tc geo as as actual accredited to play pokemon. There might've it like the players. Cut may always be a component of the play pokemon thing even when the physical events come back. Maybe they have players cup every single time and then they have a separate players cup world championships that way. It's not kind of tied in necessarily to the physical events but you can qualify for the physical world if you have you know if you play certain things in players i don't i don't know it's going to be interesting to see how they do it because obviously playing physical cards is so much different. When you're face to face your opponent versus playing from you know your living room online you know on a tablet at home. You know what i mean like this. There's so much of a difference. Like i don't know if those two play styles are really going to have a place being together like it's it's just very interesting and we're going to have to see but it's up to the world. Where your masks please. So we can have competitive book among the physically. No exactly and there's also good. There's also like i don't know what the there it's it's like league battles or something like that i just. I know it's somewhere. It's like arena battles. It's i feel awful because it's it's like another way that they're trying to get tc g. in a different format. So they're they're like playing with a. I'm trying to like look at what it's called yet. No it's called team challenge. And so it's it's you sign up for a specific store and you go in you play just like it was like a small league challenge. Know there could be a hundred people in the tournament. There could be eight but it's it's online it's online but the tournament organizer is the like the store owner and it's all run through discord so it's like interesting low key but also it just they call time they do all this stuff. It's all run through arken. Labs are canine lab. Doing it like that might give it a little bit. More of a consistent feel to what people can expect when they're playing physically. Know what i mean right. There's there's someone in charge. There's there's referees on hand there's people making calls you know what i mean. So maybe that's why they're doing that. But i like that. Sounds like it's a whole tournament series where you basically fight in like multiple tournaments to become one of the four top people that represent that store and then they go onto fight other stores in the area and then go onto more and more stuff but long story short. It's like a the their way of giving something else other than just the players cup. I like that. I like that. I mean i've talked to a lot of people that play gio pretty consistently but are still kind of intimidated by the players cup format. So maybe this'll be a good option for them to just dip their chosen and see what it's like to be in a structured event environment. It's kinda cool i like. I've played in one so far. I didn't do too well but it was a lot of fun. All right well. Why don't we move over to some more. Tc stuff and take a look at this deck profile that put him on put together for or beetle experience with this. I don't but this is one card that i've been like eyeballing for so long because it reminds me of flag on delta from dragging frontiers back in the day it said inbetween turns if this card is your active. Pokemon put one damage connor counter on all of your opponent's basic pokemon that have damaged on them. I know it's a little bit different than the actual ability but it was nice because you could switch into it or something got knocked out. That would come up. Plays ten on everything that has damaged awesome orbital v. max has an awesome ability It's called erie beam which allows you to place a damage counter on each of your point spokeman while it's active and the best part is that you can use four a turn if you have all four out That's see that's that's crazy. That's where things go little bonkers with this right because you can add up strategy really quickly and you've got v. maxes so you can always use stuff like super scoop up heads just like people are using enhanced. Hammers just like superscooper. Bring it back to your hand and start over. You know if it gets damaged. Bring it up Use things like alan launder. He'll u-turn board air balloon switch bird keeper. There's tons of ways to switch your pokemon right. So there's it. It's not unlikely that you'd be able to get this to rotate a couple times during your turn put a bunch damage counters down for two energies. It does fifty damage plus fifty additional damage for each energy attached to your active hokum on so if they have you choose at ground up that's going to do two hundred damage to it if it got the three awesome and if you had four or beatles and placed four damage counters in between all those moves you'd be able to one shot it. It's that's awesome. That's pretty awesome. Yeah i it's basically built around weakening your opponent Beam ability while going in for knocked out knockouts with g. Max wave at you tank or beetle the more grief you and you give your opponent by chipping away at all. They're pokemon and then it also has Like relit which does sixty damage as long as you played bird keeper that turn normally. It does sixty damage for three energies. But if you played bird keeper you ignore the energy attack at cost sue just like do it which is awesome to like yes you place. The uniform damage counters than you vert keeper. Draw some cards and attack with rowlett for knockout which is the goal Then play mister mind with its ability scoop blocks so your opponents can't scoop up anything that has damaged counters on it or scope of any pokemon just in general and they and they came out with an orbital v box at retail. So which i got for christmas. Oh nice that was once we give at. Least get your hands on the and then just have to hunt down the v. Max which is one of the two things asked for for. Christmas is for that and then the farfetched glare ian and i got that as well. Oh nice vein is very nice all right. Well let's let's take a little break adam and when we come back. We'll watch our episode of the anime. The tent august which i need a break i gotta go place some tc. Gio i'll stop all right. We'll be back right after this and we are back from our break. Thank you all for that. I am refreshed. I retrieved the water from the refrigerator so the water healing. I'm hydrated now. I feel much much better but a little housekeeping to get through before the back half of the show this pack. This podcast is powered by patriot. Please check ours out over at patriot dot com slash pokemon professor where he can support the show for as little as one dollar a month. Now one dollar will get you access to our patients -clusive discord which is a fantastic place filled with fantastic and if patriots. You're no big deal. There's still a couple of the ways you can helps out if you're listening on. Youtube eat subscribed to the channel turn on notifications. And if you're listening to a podcast service like apple podcasts. You can take a moment to leave us. A review also emerged. Store is up and available at pokemon professor dot com slash merch. All right adam. We got the tense situation here. This is the second to last episode in the orange. Islands arc episode fifty nine in that arc. The original air date and japan was september thirtieth nineteen ninety nine as episode one fifteen and in the. Us came out on october. Seventh two thousand and is currently episode. One eleven in the current. Us rotation as we're watching it orange islands through amazon prime video. So you ready to Get this show on the road. Oh i'm ready all right. We're gonna start this up and like always we're gonna jump. Pass the intro song and just start watching along When the after the title song all right so let's start this in three two one go. Pokemon journey began. Wait are they. They're back out phthalic. oh nice. They walked back walked taliban. Don't you remember any income. All of that's right. Tracy finally gets to meet professor oak and they finally give gs ball black sea. Where did all these books come from. There's no way bag of holding racy house. Yeah we can have lunch while you decide what to show. Professor we get to see creepy so little tangent here in the secrets of the jungle movie. That's coming out in japan. The new movie an article came out saying that they're going to reveal the origin of ashes. Father and give information issues dad. So it's going to be weird to have a whole movie talking about mr mayans. Can't bob that mister mind. No wonder why ashes so weird don't even knock just go in. Please don't nights okay. Uh-huh bronx their own. We got rocked back. He's doing they're looking good matches. Toby doing yeah. Hey you must be like. I was just keeping the house. Tidy just made a fresh pot of indigo along which has a delightful pg flavor indigo laurel. And i think you'll find it very refreshing. I like my straight but for you. I'll add a dash of milk to heaping teaspoons of sugar. Now watch out what you're doing here. Yeah abroad and in my house. Yeah this ship needs can stay here. I'll get to learn more and more about hokum on every day. I love this flashback. These guys may need a lot more than you guys do. You did make sure you don't forget me will. Yeah well they kind of forgot until just now. I thought you were going to learn more about pokemon thought. You're going to marry the gym leader. She got creeped out. Oh oh he's paralyzed crying. Game talk about it talk about it. Think it's causing him. Physical pain muscle dumped him. Always happens you okay. No it's so funny your it really feels like the episode of where they were they were with go spoke mon and they lick them. Yes ohi- ash. She's like i don't care about your underwear anymore. St how's everything going with you. Tell gabby great like they're a couple nice to meet you nice to meet you too. How long's he picked here. Mrs ketchup. Well let's see year. How long have you been in the giants about a week ago. It's a good thing we got to the market before it closed off. Let's go back as a way to bring brought back. He's being stopped on rate. Where is that noise coming from over. Sorry sir looks like his dad. I tried to give that laugh. Always said the same thing. Don't mention that name. So i stopped asking poor brock. Brock's heartbroken look. Mr mom doesn't even have to work anymore. You can really take up his role as step guests. Come on mr sweep today chores. I guess we'll never know what happened. Flex professor do scary own mentioned that to the writing on this episode of so good little pumpkin. I'll cook up something special your mind. Maybe i'll make my deep dish. Chilidog pizza potpie dog elite cup pies share that recipe. I need the vegan. Vegan version stopped about them. All the way here pot pies. It is getting late with extra veroni. Tracy wants to meet professor. Okay bringing the ball back. It's only been here. go palooza. Everybody's so needy right now. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to yell what i just wanna know what we're gonna go see. Professor he's upstairs would be comes out of the bathroom washing. My hands for twenty seconds won't need another dumbbell. Let's go to the yes this ball. This story arc to come close. We get there before. I changed my mind. I want to get there. So i can see all the poco m on the professional and keep it for me. I bet the what is the ball. Brock i guess you must have been excited. The first time humid the professor. That name can't even say the word professor. Yeah professor oakes one of the most respected hokum on research in the whole world and he's got one of the best pokemon laughed anywhere cool. Let's hurry tracy's in all his glory ahead and straight to the old jesus okay. Mon paradise the old geezers to call the boss and let him know. We're still on the twits trail watching rocket checks in regularly with giovanni like may have to. How else are they getting this equipment. Yeah they get the money on me tweet all right. I'm i'm loving episode so far. This is so good. Lost you bright and there'll be plenty to steal over it oaks laboratory. That older too if we just hang out with the younger twins is back again. What how old is brock was. I don't think we've ever come to that conclusion right. He's like hundreds i am. He's going to be like forty so creepy. No way look at my shiny trophy. Have birthday party at a bowling alley and they give you a trophy professor. Maybe that was just me. He must be year. The door wasn't locked nice crib. Maybe we shouldn't interrupt them. Maybe doing important research Yes good to see you here. I was just feeding. What were you feeding her muck. Please yeah put your mucking along but those broken bones. I know cracking. It's an honor to finally meet you professor oak. I'm poke him on watcher. he's like. Can you just watch her over fire. Like i'm trying to get off of me. Get my feet of muck mouth get you toby. How're you doing mick back. I'm doing just fine best regards. Who really want to go there. Aren't you going to give him the ball given the ball took so long the broken peanuts crumbs all we got a little sidetracked by the orange league. Well i'm sure you gave lots of valuable experience. How begin my examination. What is the ball dude. Shelve answer professor. Moist of these were sent to me by traveling trainers. Who started out here in pallet. We answer shake a little tour. Sounds break oh yes. Snow lacks doing very well. Here call how come eaten. All of palestinian law story lacks is so good just snoring. It's happy classic. Oh those are the episode with all the toro scott hundred dancers in. Yeah but it was banned so didn't make any sense at all these toros in america. Because they're all right there you go you have one to start your own private stampede. I'm impressed what's that gary cookie monster cookie cookie. Cookie professor has like a a reserve happy and healthy. Sure do well don't seems to be a common thing with professors. You're right but oaks got the got. The land got the lab and land your drawings. Look interesting actually. I picked out some of my best sketches and even though they may not be that good. I was wondering if you could take a look at someone like pokemon snap but withdrawing brought so happy are right brass drinking tea. Like sketches are professor ocean. It'd be like why are there. So many women and your sketchbook i love. i love that just like whispered and went. Got so quiet. How do you know brock. Did you look. Oh no she yeah. They definitely called the boss to get the budget for for a giant bag. Well that's the tent. That's the ten that we have a situation. Your title makes sense now. It's itchy it's the gs fall. Why we stay in hama star yet. No but why was that. A big black blob at the top of it pink. Yeah who's this pokemon. We still have figured out gigli random. Jesus i want to go in there and sing circus. Because we don't use them in the world devastate. This is This can be one of their coolest costumes. Ever look at james. it's the best. Galapagos clapping for ryan. Funny now looking very gillis outfits we thought peleton could use a little excitement you bring an entire circuit ten. I wonder if they'll have an old fashioned side. Show oh my gosh. That's pretty good ash. Like i remember like years ago seeing like you know the youtube video ashes best burns. He's and that was a good one. That was definitely taken into one of the. I don't think you're gonna take anything based on your prior performance. Okay yes i wanna fight. Oh no this is a little disturbing rob. I don't know what's going on. it's revolting. Whatever it is how do we. How do we make this the most ridiculous episode ever. It's the vast raising the right while it's all his magnet. Victory been getting rendon stuck on much set of official attack. Get stuck on martin boy. That's great trying to swallow muck so random. This is like my favorite episode a long time. Yeah like friends lights. It looks like mitt retrain or to professor what who is this jet. I is it base. Attacked from mega man now turned into just like deflated. Choose this this isn't an official match. All your pokemon do not. Oh wow i like how they were all the same size but they just magically shrunk and then made a boat like the ring from lord of the rings it fits users art alexiy professor oaken trouble. That may stick as me. we're feelings. I get upset. The dead how could they be vacuum back. Always with the vaki guy and the windows off. No no yes fall off. We can call the goals. Intel pledge applicable. We'll even know what's in great for the they're all toros. Tracy sketches brock. How come you came back home. Ever tell in finding professor riding. No no even even me. I'll sit. He's back on the trip no gs fall. Somebody dive into that machine. Now it's gonna be gigli pump. Jet what are you just got blasted off the speed. Oh snap all the puck gonna come out. Who's this out. Nato queen tom. Oh gary not for nothing. Gary is legit training. No one likes to say it but yeah squad man. Yeah the famous nato clean sound or i liked that he used strength though. Excuse me a victory so good but why did he show up like a mummy custom. That's his new style. That is the gameboy music you doing. Grandpa fine thanks to you. Didn't get my sketches after all the gs balls here to what's in it. Luckily gary got here in the nick of time. You did a fine job. Good job gary needlepoint. Most of the credit. Gary did a great job training himself into a really strong trainer and getting stronger all the time. Thanks to tough training schedule. You should see how much better he's gotten with his pokemon ass. You're useless orange crew. And i even got the winner's trophy approving congratulations congrats. You one didn't help much against be league. Sworn in the ball game on lead do remember that. That was a long time ago lash. I'm a much stronger trainer than i was back then. Stronger you are. Oh my gosh. Get their eyes. Lock to talk about the gs ball someone. I just need the story on dead. Think ash can win. Maybe maybe maybe this episode is going to go along because we're going just to see what happens can't end like this local loubser the local loser. Oh my gosh even the narrator was in. Oh did you hear that even the narrator who's gonna be the local loser pride at stake here dude. What an amazing episode was literally so good. That was there was punny. It was just all around to bless the like muck gut in on it. Like toga party was finally plot. There was actually every everyone in it was funny. Everybody was so good. Random brock comes back and he's like so definitely two thumbs up on that one more episode in new york. So this'll be be exciting. Finally wrap it up but but atom. I've got a Got hidden feats. I've got sun and moon hidden faces. Four three four four three four there man feels so good to to hold hidden fades cards. Feel good the quality is so good. Here we go. We've got fighting energy. Misty's determination instance got bronx pure city. Jim brock giovanni exile charm andor volturno. Coughing echinacea ends q. Bone reverse is a jinx and the rare is a non hollow. Lapresse what you have. What what what thing movement the the base. The base set fighting energy poisoned. Barb dragonair charger book shoulder took him a roof. Pop leo zoo bet. Carbon none none none none none at. Oh oh we're gonna finish the podcast reverse hollow is polly world in a rare to No i don't know what it is. It's a to cannon to canada. I don't know why i to call to to contain. It's too hand. That was such a still like hung up on that episode. That was it was awesome. That's the that's like the funnest episode. We've seen in a while. Well it's been like four or five episodes since he actually won so the last couple episodes have been filler and even like the last few then he was in competition. We're like a little sketchy. Finally they're back to forum. I thought this was. This was a phenomenal episode. I mean the writing was was absolutely amazing. It was so funny so every single character. Yeah everyone looting including the narrator had this episode on blog. yeah now it's I'm excited to see the the final episode next week and And finally see what. What's up here because you know it's been a while since ash and gary have have hustled off. Yeah yeah but now has a you know all of his pokemon and choose from the. This could be exciting. This could be interesting but adam. I think that's a show. We did it man. I think that is a wrap. All right everyone thank you so much for checking out the show and we appreciate it if he made it this far please check out gotta watch them all dot com for everything that's going on with the show. Poke them on. Professor dot com for everything that's going on with the network. You can email us info at gotta watch them all dot com. You can leave us text or voice mail or picture or video. Whatever seven three two eight three five eight six three nine Other than that connector. This social media looking forward to Some stuff in our future so definitely pay attention to that check out loosen up for pokemon go stuff special conditions for tc g. stuff and yeah happy holidays. Everyone hope everyone has a safe and healthy new year because we got news next week. Ditto ditto all right adam. Think that's it is. That is that is it. Unless you want to watch remember remember trainers can't be out there catching them all. Just hang out with us and watch them all. We'll see you next week.

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James Bond Is A Hoe Featuring Regine L. Sawyer

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You know in Austin like we're going to be able to get a room five and the bitch you know proper once again. Y'All do on go for me. Let me reiterate that too. Because y'all came Boola I couldn't believe it. Yeah wait special shoutout especially south. Everybody Super Special Shadows to crystals from Reid. Who hit us with that? Five hundred. Yes. That was amazing thing beautiful. Thank you and we refunded all in it because because what just three days ago so meals like it was like years nearly. Oh we we get some change before south by South West. The city of Austin did a press conference said Nabo. This is not a real. We're canceling everything in this bitch That includes south by and waiting on and it was so funny because when they said one ben told me because he was like it was the same day they cancelled. Emily Kame supposed to go. So they're saying they can't and Ben Ben said Yoda cancel easy see and he's an awesome about to do a press conference and of course the sad Jordan face. That's I I said. Boom all right. I want online at three twenty three waited and first of all. They didn't go on at three thirty. They went on a four hour time which is what three their time. But we want to fool quote him right then finally the the mayor whoever the hell going he says wimpy womb stuff stuffing beginning and then he says and we have cancelled everything and I turned it off. Listened to the rest of what he had to ask. And that's where I went also canceled who I'd already turned off. Thought blamed and walk in the moment was the moment he said he attacks you and turn it already knew once they said press conference. It's a wrap like after a week ago. It's all inside Bob. Everything's fine not fire burning right so bad happened so and again why yes. We're clowning about this. Yes we may guess. We're upset at the same time we understand. And we're amazed. I'm still amazed by the support. You know that is still effing mind-blowing Amis so as disappointed as I am. Every are I'm still at Yo. Thank God that's so wild you know like y'all ditty pull through. We don't see what's happening. We are still waiting on word from south by South West to see if there will be a postponement. All I know is and I had said to see you. This is all I know is that we better roll over to whatever happens next because the work in time and effort at it takes to get get just put on a South West South West bill and I fucking place. We don't have the money to be buying bad stuff. And speaking of there's thing there's a thing going on whether or not even refunding the people who are they better figure that out because the lawsuit is listening to stay in the fine print and it doesn't matter right. Emerald City is refunding positive and so the fine from south by South West. That's nothing I gotta read these contracts. What would you say it does say? This is not refundable however they never put on a event to begin with. So you're not trying to get a refund but you don't WanNa go no more. There's nothing to go to the expectation now is they're they're going to do something else. What I don't know I don't know they're gonNa try and do some digital stuff which I maybe maybe not but I'm not really feeling it. I just rather just wait until twenty. Twenty one honor people but at the same time they sitting there trying to first of all they also got rid of like a third of the workforce already because they can't sustain the they claim they're not gonna be maybe not be able sustain losses in a debt and now the city of Austin is also going through it so it's just a lot of different cards just out there like we personally know people at re pop who put on Emerald City Comic Con. And you know. I've heard rumors of re pop facing bankruptcy and all kind of things people don't understand that it's a very precarious business to put on a comecon but it has learned. Oh Yes we definitely learned army that will never be named other people's mistakes So but one thing I don't understand is also like Anthony's a precarious industry but it takes the failure or the non-delivery of one show the bus. The whole thing down we've gotten re pop. Has what eight shows a year. Ain't that many. You know what I mean. Gap Not to say that point. Profitably no COMECON like traditionally for the first four five. You are a losing money entity but what about the I get that but what about established folks like I mean if I ran a comic con but it's a little bit different because I'm I'm kind of sensitive about my pockets Regan's on that later but typically shows do get some type of insurance You know just in case they lose a venue or who knows that you have a bunch of guests that you're supposed to pay now. They're not showing up but they still want to get paid things of that nature But depend on. What's in in your insurance? It may or may not cover it because I heard for softball. South wet weren't covered for this like they. They were come for other things. Yeah but they weren't covered commerce specifically for like our problem. I mean like you wouldn't think that far ahead like performers like in their contracts are being forced to buy insurance for being like Gun violence like in your contracts as a performer. Yeah you have to. You know. Put Verandah shooters whatever but nobody has communicable disease put into their contract yet now now even still. The insurance companies are now moving that add on. Yeah so we can't afford it. That threes isn't condition. Oh no imagine dealing with the same theme Rita topping dealing with the same thing but readers also. They also postpone. There's and they said that they want to do it in the summer so okay for Emerald City. They're at least going to try to recoup most of their money and they may still have to file for bankruptcy a little bit Dated over maybe try not to get out of Your Life. Fast Food too right. Well like I said I. I don't know what's the next step is for south by like I said I I do hope if any of the get priority at the very least give priority because the people want to see us there we wanna see us. They're like a lot. It's a labrum same from as I understand that position there because it's so F- like think of all the films that were premiering at South by definitely and I know I know the patch right but I also this also means you can start going to things like doing more streaming like just because like understood that you can't have the pomp and circumstance of having a screen Alpha but that doesn't mean that piece of work doesn't exist anymore. It's still difficult today Senate to What I'm trying to say you could still send it to people like us to the critics. You could still send it to outlets like ours like I. It's not like it's not dead. We're still we're still accessing all They're still doing digital screeners for every I think pretty much every film. Now southbound okay. So we'll does so we'll still be reporting on. Actually I think it'll be more equitable because the way south by word was and if you have in order to actually even getting screenings first of all you have to. You have to admit like four special type of past and also like it's also like a kind of a key first-come-first-served very limited space so interview were you know the top of the top and you just didn't make into the screen and you ain't make it and more than likely is usually not the top of the topic is shafted. People on the bombers the is the is the independent people's the folks like us that you know are are they pull themselves up by the booster so point is I do hold that. They have something and they're able to deploy something relatively quickly Again I I'm sad but I'm also grateful for everybody who put in work for us as well. Thank you word. And if you are one of the people affected by Emerald City COMECON or South by southwest. Make sure you hit us up at four all nerds on all of our socials and we will boost you as much as we can. We always do and speaking to boost in before we get out of this interest and I have to do boost. I said I'm Aka Queen Sono standard-bearer yeah man is clean son. Stan I love de Fam- I watched the whole six episode series on what is Meth. Like some This week I've been meaning to watch her actually saw like one day. I. I didn't even realize Netflix does. But you can go on and athletes and they have a category two shows you coming up And so one day I was looking through that and I saw it I was like Oh shit black woman and a spy. Join this you know in South Africa. Okay let me remember him to watch that. You know 'cause I'll never have so much shit you'll miss in an are finally caught up with it and watch all six This weekend and it's fucking incredible. I'M GONNA style Washington when I go home that was number one in my recommended Q. And I and I figured they figured out my profile based on my watch habits but it was like number one it was like you. GotTa Watch Queens Zone and two. I'm still awful altered. Carbon Athens should up including a show. I Love Them. You know shout out auto from the first season committee I only got to. What about what about Falcon shut up simone message and I got two episodes of Alta Carbon and I switched to the first season on the second. Second Okay Yeah. I switched over to Clean and no grits. I'll tell you I mean no no say hundred ten shave no shame he says. I mean Queens. Sodo is just something special like I WanNa make sure pronounce on Pearl Busey. Is THE LEAD ACTRESS. I mean tweets by. Yes she did amber tweeted at. Thank you very much Because she is killing. I everyone I mean all. I don't know every apper actress name in the show but everyone generalists whatever it just down the line CONAN production design beautiful soundtrack beautiful writing great directing defect just a little touches like history and culture. South Africa's so much in the show and we've also talked about. I was talking about this. How Barn I believe the Barnaby anyone watching this show maintained for mind exit on that I really do believe bond has to be a man. That's one thing. Why is that the Misogyny is baked into bonds? And you bet you know that's the thing you have to have written and clean. Her character is a south. African woman cannot Fisher out for somebody in the DNA of repaired. Or and maybe except that about James Bond like he has to be a dude. You can have other double owes but James. Bond is the DICKHEAD. Who LIKES HIS SHIT? Shaken not stirred. You know dino straight up you know you know sleeping around with anybody got himself dressing for. I didn't just put themselves. David James Duh. No just no cares just does the Walker with no problem but the clean Sono Bait in and like it's a little touches. I dress clothing all that so great but even how they are switching from English to their native language in the middle of a conversation in the middle of a sentence even time like just so fire. It is so you know it's that thing. It just feels black. Yeah you know you know. And it's so beautiful and just I'm just fucking overly impressed like I had high hopes but I wasn't sure and then from the jump like even as a writer to intro alone to the pilot. Episode is such a perfect teaser. Like it gives you the whole show before the credits. You know what the show is GonNa be about. What the care about basic motivations you up I ten minutes done we out. You know an and let's give you a solid episode in and it's all the way to the finish. The final episode is absolute crack sitting there on the edge of my seat on that joint Man's name is Kasey COSC- go. Liga is the Creator writer and director. Shit Okay my name's the beast. You know he's doing it. We need to get him on the show. Follow on his account as I said that because we gotta make sure we have them on the show shout out to Pearl for re tweeting US. We also would love to have you on and flee lease so everyone this is that you know what I was doing. The Wu Tang on Hulu push and we need a second season. I need to three seasons of print. Sono and it's interesting that it's quote only six episodes that means that that it's to me the MEESE efficient. It's super because you know how were kind of in the times where like when stuff is like twelve episodes like did much too much can they? Can they get their message across better? There was only one moment I could say word riding whereas like a question of motivation and stuff but other than that and okay to do is very very minimal and it moves so good and it's it doesn't like you said it's sufficient doesn't waste time. There's I want flashback episode. So late into the fourth episode to get you. You know acclimated on everybody and it's so ill because you see all the stuff before the flashback episode and you're like okay how do you know how did I get here? And then you're like oh in. An flashback was so well. Because you're like all damn this is about to happen to have been interested in Jane Doe. He said I was curious. I've heard to know it's phenomenal. Like I say that last episode edge of my seat and then it ends words. I okay the second season setup so well you already know how you know. What the bigger pains. They're going to be showing and I can't wait to see a man like God. Damnit maintain their buildings. Eighteen impressed. I I'm real hyper dog. 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Well unintentional deservedly so but anyway it is now time for the Geek when they ask questions segment D GUAC is extra. We answer each and any and all questions that you send in. It doesn't matter what it's about as you will learn very shortly on this episode. Hit US up contact that for all NERDS DOT COM or on the twitter instagram. Any social at four all nerds. And what do we have a first nights? The first comes from scam likely the most trifling at motion carried. They ride changed that name. I every time it comes with another one. Almost mutual fair. That's why we were so negative negative on TV show. I don't WanNa see with my phone will tell me if it's like it. Says potential eleven people call themselves potential? I think it's funny anyway. We're on you're ready hater. One all right. They write in lieu of the panic. Corona virus. What is the best worst virus disease from comics? Video Games for example like the t virus from resident evil or the male killing play from y the last man of manager name but I love this question and I mean you gave to answer the question firm. It is definitely the male can play. And why S. Man I knew. Sat qualcomm I mean you WANNA world saving play an oxymoron say world saving plague but it will save me. Placate is also one of the best time of books of all time. Read y Man Brian K Vaughan and Pierre. I think we're on art. I met a woman. She's a beast but I'm not sure if I pronounced either. Her name right at the love is while that matter lovers bought the count on. Yes it's the milk and play. There's no contest himself thinking did you WanNa do you do you. Are you going with why? I'm talking about the team Iris. Yes never played resume but that turned into a map. Play like famed. That's not a good. I mean I guess that's a good virus with it value when we're just guessing when you say best worst virus motion carry that you meant like. I guess or not. Wait a minute. And there's like captain trips that's mistake rhythm. Murders everyone yeah. Everyone catches the brute force of the world population council the bad one on that one and men and women and children. So that's like Oh yeah I don't like this I don't I don't I. Don't I love that? You know I just love wide last man and men dying off. I think are coming. Y'All because you got to get this. These ben on me reaction. That's me catching hill in this situation. I mean you know. Sometimes you gotta break eggs or making our. We'll just one last one the virus from the X. Men Oh oh mega-city yeah the legacy virus who turn their powers against themselves basically going on now the fail. No that's ten ours is our fishing. You know it's like it's like yeah you're right. This is a tough question is a tough question. Well if you guys have some answers let us know on social at four alerts. The next question comes from our faith forestall twenty-one they right which TV movie or any genre character annoyed you so much you were hoping they would be killed off or have you could. Which character would you kill off? This is like a really dark Brat. Questions Talk to Ish from Jessica Jones. Us Fish thousand places. Trash fish was excuse. I wasn't I wasn't go person. There was no empathy. She was just stuck on having our own powers. It was like how Jessica. Let me kill her mother. Let me try to be a hero tomorrow. Cath yes she was a little like a black widow soup. No your face was a black widow. The Black Man. It was crazy he was horrible up. I Love Trish the first season. She's along the writer for characters that was advertised guys like our ever. She was great. You know and in the second I didn't want another season and I I didn't finish the second. I was highly distressed seven eight episodes and then I was informed of what happened at the end of the season and also happy. I didn't finish it. Third Third Trish horrible. Sorry I couldn't. After she did a job I mean the actress did a job was not supposed to be likable. She she was at least nine. Those last two seasons for me is anime related. My hero academia actually tweeted about this earlier this week or I don't know who that is. Trump still not bear. Yeah Kit Gentle criminal out the motherfucking paint. I do not like that man. I do not like that character. A do not like him say I am. I do not fuck him in a house. I do not with the mouse like I don't like just criminal. He is more problem than he needs to be. I'm very suspicious of his relationship with with Lebron Uva and I I just don't fuck with okay and I. I don't even know if anyone in this room is even watching my hero but I know people listening are and just. Don't fuck with him. He's he's just mad annoying. He's attention starved and I wish he'd he'd go the way of the Dodo. That is feel U He ain't Shit Jesse Graham Elaine Shit Damn Damn Yeah I gotTA catch up on that like. I say I'll be back on loan words right now so I've gotten back on my my hero. Oh Is there anybody on that? You WanNa get rid of no no. I'm I'm not far enough to know. Okay other than Spawning David Bowie looking at. What's his name Because that just frightens me all my on my mind when you see power like Calvin from cabinet alum Eli Macaulay Culkin. And the bed years like my vote is nate. Jacob from you for you you rally he I for Hinch meal a Yeah. May voi- with his football player with his master plans dead. Oh you don't watch actor okay. But I'll say fantastic. He is he does. He doesn't mind God he's a Mall Salon. I want him to play Doctor Doom. I'll just look up. He's only twenty two years old so if they do a urine fantastic four and he's six four so I think he I'm do could be A. He's definitely going to play some type of marvel role in the future but Doctor. Doom would be my choice. I hate this motherfucker Jacob. Laurie is that actor's name and he does incredible job as Jacobs. Four ben was calling the the death of nate From from pretty much like the first episode. What's gotTa Die? I was so upset that he survived the first season. But also you know happy that does bastard in haunt me for the next season. Yes oh I mean he. He became like my you know he was immediately. He never was a hater of our Jeffrey like that. He's got into wasn't too. I know I never really gave a damn. I hated him. But he wasn't like what's Ramsey Ramsey well. But I still hated offer Ramsey. Still my number one. Nate is right below. Him Chasing chasing him down mates. A scumbag row is the worst season. Two men airman. That's what I'll be. The summer should be should be All right the next question comes from as they they right. What's good for all nerds? Maze here Aka Inspector Tech Tatyana. Feel free to hold that. Want to be like it. I do like that one Do Babies in clear how highlander jingle farm like okay. I wonder woman I study slow because I don't WanNa hear that means we thought earlier and I wasn't mad at you know it's like all right so you gotta give it made you laugh and last one. Lebron James was like man eight again we are doing the segment. We're doing that. Like you said Negro Don staffer you rate everybody. Yes all right. The question goes with the final black widow trailer out and face for the MTA. Officially cooking off in May. I wanted to ask you all if you had. If you had any creative control over the mid and post credit scenes what would you want to tease in? Would you keep it simple or plan? An Easter egg for the next battle of the peace love so for like the after courtesy mid credit scene. Would you wanNA keep it simple? Like like an ant man and the wasp. There were two or three there. Were there was one that was real simple where it was. Antonio whatever the name his aunt was he was just playing the drums and it wasn't really worth it but then the next scene off after the first scene was a heartbreaker. I post credit scene. Where you'RE GONNA call. It was a big big time heartbreaker. So like if you have a control would you? Would you do something major or something? Simple main for black widow. Let's say for WAG widow all around for the major one. Yes no poly something major. I will do the same reason like I hate sitting there through. I mean I know the point but sitting twenty minute ride is just the like an aunt drumming on a junkie like my Nah. I'm good I don't need to wait for that And also I like like it's sport right. It's Sport to after an MCSE movie to wait and see what's going to be teased and in a way. It's like an expectation so I expect something of substance. Lets me yeah this black widow? No you know people are already down. Moving supercell maybe clear. I'm not down on the movie. Down on black widow scourged Samarai writer appears as one of the Widows in this movie. Asamoah right of you guys don't know who she is. She is a self taught stunt woman from the UK fucking fire biggest astral bigger than life. She's fucking gorgeous. She does all the stunts. The corio the weaponry. She's in net bitch. I've been following her for years obsessed and she is now in the black widow film. Yeah and you can see on a poster. I'm mistaken like the new person that just came out like they. This is kind of a dark version of all all the widows on the bottom and you just see one with a big Afro Samurai beautiful. You love to see it. Yeah so we need something to bid for this. That's almost the I beyond that I really. I hate even ideas. I don't know. Did you see the black widow driller? I've seen other released today. Let's be clear if you've seen the other ones you've seen this one line. I it should be big issue me being I mean given what we already know about what happens to That character supposedly game I'm curious to see what it will be but it needs to be something big. They're gonNA be some stupid shocking. It should be some silly believed for me to even make sense to even release a movie like that now. It's not as the there are gonna be something because new stuff. I met on a movie like there's going to be some type of twists in. This movie. Makes IT WIDER? Release them black widow. Now idea to y'all that it would have to be something we can make up for. What's the next movie after this you turtles and that's being filmed still not out to the trailer might drop should drop a black widow their own linger in photography type stuff. Maybe you don't do re-shoots but they've finished principal photography. Yeah okay well and that joint. They're gonNA have a bollywood number in it any terminals. Yeah because he's His eternal character is hiding on earth as a Bollywood after I love it because in original version back character was Japanese and he was doing like Morocco. Theaters else. Okay so now. He's a big bollywood after. That's cool very cool. Thanks for the question maze. The NEXT ONE COMES FROM NESTLE SNIPES AKA double geeked up on a Thursday afternoon. No response better keep going. I don't get that reference at all either close up on Tuesday. I don't get it yes on but I was always a big one so anyway. The question goes I players. Dc was supposed to release a Cyborg film this April. But we've heard absolutely nothing about it what do you think? Dc will do. I give us. The Snyder cut three more Batman movies or Cyborg. His own film Batman Movies Batman Plan Woman Bat multiple movies. You will see. You're going to see another black hero before you CSI boardroom. You might see an icon. Shasta Ray Fisher. Who was actually on our show back when the first He was in person he was here in person. I don't think you but he just shout you out like he did a video for you but Rate Fisher. He's a great actor and he actually did a very good Josh. Doing Cyborg in the Justice League movie so I'd like Snyder coverage introduced won't be a lot more cyborg in his dad. Is Papa Pope? So I'm just like ZAN missed. It definitely makes worth on that. They missed it. But you know why because I I think after like Aquaman and the rest took off. They just was like first of all. Let's be clear. Dc doesn't they don't have a plan they have not had in in the in specifically innocent matic. University just never really had a plan so That's sad though. It is because also then they went and put another. Cyborg in annual array. Fisher play him and put another Cyborg on doom patrol and so now cyborgs. Not DOING PATROL DO PATROL. Try the second season and do patrols a fire show on sell. Good Jesus I mean that that's shows like what the fuck y'all haven't watched doom patrol you know. Find it watching somewhere in the second season. Come Soon I can't wait till down ridiculous Batman. Did you guys see the pictures new batmobile? Yes would you think it's a car? Okay yeah I mean then muted reaction is? It's cool? Well okay because I expected it to divide a lot of people because up until now people up until in the recent history. Let's say the last ten fifteen years. The batmobile has been a tank of some sort literally like a tank of some sort very super high tech stuff. Now now we get to the point where it looks like a Camaro basically. I barely with with the modifications. Take it was it was it was it was honestly a nondescript type that much no but it was it was just another type tank situation like everyone expresses to be this kind of lumbering thing. That always killed all those people with. Yes he landed the tire but yeah but now I think this is like this is like year one type Batman so it looks more like a Camaro obviously with mentioned with special features on it. I when I saw actually liked it. Classy I like the chassis engine and I wanted to actually see how it looks all in concert with batons in is I'm calling him with with his bat suit with his with his The pieces of the gun to form the the bat it is. They have commercials that we can firm. Yeah but I'm not sure that that's really what it is. I hope that's what else would it be? Better still gonNA kill very easily gravelly voice. Here's a gun. The year one Batman. I think I think his clothes are suppose. Look homemade home. You're going on one dark. Listen then it's it's it's cereal. I mean it's in the Comics Canon. It's in the Africa which which story. It is where they actually. There's no handle to down. Yes he that was one party. Where did he would he put his body? But my evidence for its precedents for his wall saying he pursued and also you also making it like a look stupid. Don't look stupid best. Symbol Z with the with the gun. Piece stupid not gonNA see. You said that's making I'm making. It seem non more off. Listen to nine and snails offerings are Dan and say I. I think that's a little much like if you really okay. This is the Glenn Killed Your parents. You're going to put that on your serve every day every day you wake up. You're like Oh yeah. It's demented demand demented at the end of the day. This man is awesome. Like he's not all they see. I've never preferred the demented Batman though. Even though I probably is I like you know I liked the idea of a Batman. Who'S NOT DEMENTED? You know first of all because he's functioning fully as a quote. Unquote normal. Human Being Society does not make him not demented drew. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying he's running around. Like the fucking joker. I'm saying that he has some issues. He belongs Arkham Beer. Beck's I've said that on twitter of that's not where he belongs. Arkan with everybody else. That's where he belongs. We should be the office facts. Thank you give me more coffee. He's got guns on his chest. I mean definitely especially your one anyway in your wall stress. Got Some therapy. No need for any more hanging on his wall this last question. I don't I don't know it whatsoever. Maybe I'll do s right calms fan for life. Rights is one of the other type of situation. You GotTa pick one brown creature commandos or Legion of Monsters. Who I don't know what that is golden rule. Okay I will tell you I know who creature commandos are now. What is Andy? Legion of Muslim eighties. No actually creature. Commandos is much more recent than that in eighty with. Its at both of them. Go back to like the sixties and seventies of Marvel and Now they've been rebooted of course to recent. This is the Legion of the legion. Of Monsters. Like Dracula where wolf the mummy? Oh and that's why they said Invisible man a God with the name this. So it's like the League of Gentlemen yes and also What's her name blood stone? I can't remember. She hunts monster. I guess she gets down with them. So she's like she was in Nets wave okay. Cornell's which is a fantastic comic if you've never read it fucking the best one of the best things ever. So what's creature commander in a creature? Commandos have no idea who most people are Do you recognize any one of them. Is Frankenstein Frankenstein considered a legion of within sober? No for some reasons on the creature. Commandos so I do no clue creature or any monster under the universal media. Umbrella is considered that. So they were blah blah I must be I never heard of Some of the people we heard as legion delete creature. Commandos is DC. It's marvel leads an arm. Sorry leading Mosses `sorry facile answer and that's for the Glock this week for the GUAC. 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Now I'm running a kickstarter To reboot Accom company X. More studios and ex more studios was run by a very good friend of mine the angry Rodney Garrett. He passed away last year and his daughter and I decided to relaunch the company and start reprinting books so we started kickstarter A few weeks ago to reprint his laptop series Ghetto and Galileo is Basically the United States an alternate universe where there's no government New York City is run by clan clan houses. Who's a Ninja Rhino Sumo's known as Rhinos. Wow Yes yes And a sect of monks called the days. Who Record all these different battles that these clans fight and it's very extensive series Robert Actually was working on it right before he passed like the next story. Arc But For the kickstarter where we had the collection of his first four issues Is in one solid trade paperback. So we're trying to gain funds to reprint that series We also partnered with his His former ART director Who whose name is Eric? Michelle Diaz and he makes customized toys instinct. A really long time. Anyway these wonderful bus. He's custom-made bus sculpture them by hand and we also had that on the kickstarter as well we have. Some variant covers are being done by lengthy Martinez. I'm Chuck Collins Some newer artists Julia Anderson and Walt Barna so we have a whole set of stuff. Yeah amazing things on the kickstarter so really been pushing it for the past the past month or so. So we're really trying to get this sucker funded so we can get these books back on the shelves in the public's hands all right well You Know Shouts Robert. Gera rest in peace. He was a good friend of ours. Friend of the show. Everything and I'd read his book Gala Gala Artists Fire Artists and Stephen Harris artist of Jolla. And I got to read the first two issues ago and I'm Anita Nets. I'M GONNA say I'M GONNA I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA start. I'm definitely going to contribute. Because I really loved the first of all I really dope world really like thought out. You know well constructed a lot of world building in the first two issues. I loved RHINOS SUMO's when they showed up the second issue. Could I wasn't ready. I you know it's like they. They show up in shadow. What Jose paid-in is these two rhinos? Sumo's and you're like you know why not like and I'm like I'm looking to really. I See. I see someone from Chuck Collins as you mentioned also known Bounce Com. Bouncer comics I will also support the kickstarter. I'm always about supporting independent people and I've always been supporting as well. So definitely so full disclosure. We're planning on supporting started as. Y'All should but yeah definitely. I really enjoyed it. I really loved. The world building is something that I could see as a series. You know television anything like that so you know so wilder be more goto after the initial issues. The Robert did yeah. That's the plan are like like you said right. Before he passed he was working on story. Arc so Eric and I are GonNa Finish that issue. And then we'll go onto six seven and eight for that. Next STORY ARC. So Eric knows where everything is supposed to be. Thank God bigshots Eric. Coachella DIAZ AK- end. We love him. He's amazing so would definitely going to be doing that. And then for The next thing after this we're going to be reprinting all of his other books early because he has a full library. So is this what you're trying to do with the funds when the kickstarter. Yeah it's just a is to reprint it just to get all those books back in circulation so he has a bunch of others And I'll say it here. That will probably going to do like an anthology of all of his number ones because some of them had like one issue two issues out there. So we're going to do like an anthology and then from there Lord Willing next year. We'll start doing the the newer books. Like so nyah. Myself Eric. We're GONNA BE PUSHING THAT FORWARD. We're going to be looking for writers and artists and so forth And I is the president and CEO. And Right now. She liked me to be. The print publisher. So you know. I'm here until she doesn't want me anymore. Autorite YUP okay. Shout outs. The both y'all and Yeah I you know I'm definitely contribute to put information up on our socials and all that good stuff. 'cause like I say it's a dope joint reminds me of like what's that show with all the martial arts and what you say intimate land this is totally like. Oh yeah but with more fantasy SCIFI thrown into cyborgs. There's the whole What are the monks that the day as you know but I loved it? There's this whole world created in his first two issues a rate. Introduces you to a lot of different concept's and everything and it throws you right into the middle of the world and catches you up right away and and I and I do see that. This is a project that kickstarter themselves call the project. I love so I so this will get some more fanfare on but no definitely and at the end of the day. I'm always curious about like what drove you to to say. We need to get these back into print. I mean well I mean me and I mean we're talking mealy after you know yeah he passed and so forth and we just like you know once we ourselves together like emotionally right like we're going to like reprint these books 'cause he he's so passionate about comics and just writing in general Passionate about creative process like he was always writing who's always reading concepts and he never did anything half ASS news. Always full as you need like. He always put all of himself into it so when he wasn't working his nine to five. You catch him at Barnes and nobles. They're just writing like artists there. He'd be on the phone. You call me and say hey reggie like what are you doing on you know. I'm I'm promoting. You know what I'm doing I'm okay like it was. He was always on the grind. He was always on the hustle whether he was sick or well did not matter And so for Niagara and I am Eric to see that first. Hand like we could not let his work. Go to the wayside so we knew like one way or another. These books are common out. We're going to make this happen regardless of kickstarter regardless of anything like these books are happening. So I mean we'd be doing service to his fans to Um the Indy Combo community that Black Comic Book Community. Where he was he was he was very loved. He was very very loud. I think So we have to do. It is no if ands or buts about it. We didn't push grievous I but we sort of just like this is a part of the process. So let's incorporate that within our processes. Let's try do something positive with it and let's get these books out. Yeah that's a great because I New Robert You know we talk a lot. But that's one thing I regret and you know it's like regret with anyone when they pass away your damn which had taught him a little bit more. You know I wish I could robbers always so nice and so quiet to me. I know he did all region stuff when I would talk to me. Always be sending this table. You know selling his books and he wouldn't even like I created all of you know I. It was never that dude. You know I always forget I damn I wish I talked to him more about writing about creating and all that stuff because he you know he's someone. I admire net ability because he was someone who like you said work nine to five and then came home and wrote you know and that is like people always complain about on having time to do this stuff and then you look at what amount of stuff this man created in his time and it really makes you like damn I gotta work harder. Got Work Smarter. I gotTa do more so you know. I'm definitely going to contributor kids started. We're GONNA put all that information because I would really love for everyone out there listening right now to contribute as well because needs to happen. Thank you and also just like in general besides the kickstarter working and you will find more about Robert Gera and find more about more and all that other stuff like where should they go to get some more information They can go. We still have his facebook up his facebook for X. Most of us. So you can go to facebook dot com for slash x. More Studios Nyah just set up a new page. I think it's facebook dot com slash X. More reborn Also his social media pages are still up so you can still artwork and such for for that There will be a a website up. You can even go to my website. Alaka DOWN DOT COM. Where it'll route you right to His facebook page. He also had a blog spot up studios. I think I think block spot dot x. More STUDIOS DOT COM and and and spell X. The letter x and more M. M. O. R. And how do you spell out your website as L. O. C. K. E. Double t? Down Dot Com there? We go Regards WANNA make sure everybody heard it all right? Well you know. We've done a little bit of our interview segment which means it's now time for the brab segment are rapid fire. Okay alrighty let's go I'm like I don't know what's come here Bam I know I know you say you only listen to show when we don't have our somebody that's good to flip it way to warmer scene. What machine. It's so funny. We're not on. She sews theories right. A few luke cage of Black Panther Panther. You realized doing this like you're on all your the wire breaking bad breaking bad. Why you said I fest. 'cause I just it stuck in my head who's watching it all right Magneto. Professor X professor x attitude. I will not approve. Yeah me and stuff. Can we talk about that? I say professor eggs because because when I think of I'm a big X. men fan so my heart goes the professor acts. He's the reason why the X. men you know he built his school. I mean I know He. Could you know he's trying to come on less trifling? They were best friends. I think like a lot of people. Their heart is in the right place and then just goes it goes left and the same thing to a certain extent his heart was in the right place and then it went left so I just have a heart for x all right all right fair left so many times so many media at least you know you know. Look this is where we're going to toews. You're going like we all right now. We all live now. We go backwards if you wanNA tell you anything about how you're not fighting now not like like Oh my. Gosh. All right Let's see this one from one of our patrons. Quiet Storm. Born submits says Mary Shag ghost clone black widow. Stronger witch or Black Panther. I'll commander for what? What is it Mary? Mary Shag regrowth. Oh like Mary killed him. Okay and your choices are storm. Black widow scarlet witch Black Panther aquaman and four I guess Black Panther Arkham anther Europe's s Mary. Mary Tyler Okay do do we would also talk with a light bulb. Day's Emma Moments. You know injustice. Mary Mackillop why night you know getting out more out of the two. I actually Okay this one comes from Akilah lawn. They write if anyone in the world could bed young and old versions too authority. Hugh everyone in the world does everyone period have the same as extra power. What would that be seen and listening because its implications? Please demographics if you're if you if you created the world and everyone in the world that you created has to have superpower. What would you choose now? Have to be wise. These questions are are like it's too much to your creative mind. Okay that is straight up. You're like Damn for light and say something like everyone had the same power. What does lucky? My first thought was why it was to let me. That's just go down in. Flames is the first different autographing albums. But it actually would you know. That's the idea behind like that Moving from the age of Pisces Age of Aquarius I human beings have to move to a higher mindset. Yeah so we were all right each other's mind It wouldn't go down and flame not be more empathetic. That would be that'd be it'd be like one of those. Jimmy Ivine you know on the planet Earth. It'd be like the cree hive. Mind your individuality. It'd be it'd be kind of. I mean you. May I mean it depends? I just said telepathy? Angst individual mind would have the empathy for the whole world. You would see people's inner thoughts and stuff so it wouldn't be like I just hate to do now you know it'd be more like name you're going through stuff to write anymore empathizing. Open all the people in this world for me to think that you personally be amputated just because they can now remind well we started from scratch generational definitely for the way I think in the current state of the way the world is a probably would. Because we're not used to. Being a society. People are imperialistic tenants. A lot of people are going to have a by I. Yeah I'm laying telepathy now if you starting from scratch though that everybody has that like we have a brand new world missile uniform. It wouldn't be that way necessarily I mean you'd have out lighter but probably lose their mind everybody but but I think that if we start from scratch but presently you're correct flame. They wouldn't be able to handle it all right. Let me let me. Just throw this one in Rocca question in real quick since it has nothing to do with copyright infringement. Unlike that Timothy White writes Popeye's or bojangles Papua's Timothy. Listen I had the way you live in this world or go to bojangles. I don't like bojangles but then bowl berry biscuits my neck if the sounds very own. Wow very antebellum but okay sure everybody. Coaching was well. Hey how much in this country don't reasons but I mean he was. It was the performer. Character go Mitchell bojangles. I think before moving to New York Maryland and there was a bojangles. Margot is still fucking name right here right by the stadium going right across the street from there so it was in between me and the McDonalds. And there's been no fuck hungover morning when it was hit by bojangles is right there and I walked right by fucking retirement very biscuit right but listen. I'm not giving it nothing else on justice. Barry it's a sweet bits. It's never liked them. Best I hate them to hasten All right I don't want to be. Don't care if you take my card. I don't like either so it's okay. I'm not really a Popeye's chicken Popeye's but you know from Houston so Frenchies but Popeye's I'm a fan of takeout carry out slash whatever like might like like real chicken okay wish chicken carryout takeout Titan. He's in DC Kadoories Ron chickens. No He's gotta say because I don't like I don't like the chain restaurants stuff I liked around the way the way is always the best. I think Tori's fourteenth fourth android right below that we murder I was checking either but My boys chicken and fish. They were just come on China lately. No okay local spots okay. That's me okay. Go ahead if you could have any one superpower. What would be you yourself personally me myself. Personally I always kind of want a superstring Super Strength Super I. I like the thought of other people up. You know that's real you get popping now but I'm just saying like live in New York necessary. You know bats way plow get Outta my face. Mogae to strength. Have you seen you seen the new dramatic when Iraq is II flicking people get away? You know but then I mean this reponsibility with any superpower you have but presently yeah like superchunk like stop like I just WANNA or just to be able just to lift something. Go get something from underneath the ball element in Sri back a lot quicker if I'd had superstring Star Wars The star Trek Star Wars champion answer Who's refers Geek crush Burt Ward Batman the original original original Robin Developers Mackerel Batman and Batman. I am aghast. Burt WAR BEAT MR freeze to the hat on his bat. Burma underwear I cried. My pet thermal UNDERWEAR THAT ASKS DID ASK MR freeze. I mean have you. Did ANYONE WATCH INFINITE CRISIS? 'cause HE IS ON. Oh the thing where everybody was. Yeah he was. In the beginning he was in the beginning. You're Robbins murdered in in in you know gets taken out gotta go. Burt Ward is there. He's he's in the beginning. Yeah Burt Word is Robin right here. They always you had a crush on Robin. Yes she often can Adam West. Yeah Robin Yeah Wow I still know little cute little cutie right my little five year old so watching it watch it on. Tv Ill and that could be walking down the street. I wouldn't know favorite superhero movie of all time on how you did it to me. Onyx I mean well I get some flak for his best okay and I'm not even going to preface it. Superman returns. I Fox was okay. Wait wait wait wait wait wait. Wait breaks sooner. Returns RANDOM growth? That's not WanNa fuck with Oklahoma. Why so you? What is the reason why I'm sitting with guys right now? It literally like eight my life. That's how I felt at the time like I was at a really low point. I was trying to figure out where I wanted to go with just with my myself. I was working as corporate flu manager and I was. I was just at a loss and I remember. I remember Just sort of a left work and I was just walking around like I need to do something like I'm really get my mind off some things and I went to see a movie. I see some returns whatever so I sat there and theater and I was watching. It just really kind of started crying. Because when I saw Brandon routh on my first thought was. He looked like one of the characters. I envisioned from my book the rippers but this was before anything when I wrote any scripts or anything of that nature and I saw that and said it's time it's time for me to get into the industry. It's time for me to make the comic book that I always wanted to make and that was. Yeah it was two thousand and that gives me a different tax. I mean don't get me wrong. Brennan Roth was an amazing. I love brand. The writing didn't follow his no. No yes the airplane catch is one of the best super an actions all time when they're shooting at a mini gun industry bouncing offers. I actually. They showed his kid like things not doing things like. I know because they were like we all see him and actually doing it. I'm just like it's the implied in stronger. Actually see him push a piano of the fuck you days so whatever. That's so that's so I love that. But that's why I mean that's that's that's why that's the that's fine. I Know Brandon Ruth Man. He was so good. I'm so glad he got killed on legends. Yeah and then also sort of sort of assume that role crisis and you see him as kingdom come and then they were like this is Ashley Stewart same. Christopher Reeve definitely heir apparent to Christopher Reeve at least at that version that that feeling of superman definitely the theme songs in Christ Infinite Earth crisis in the DC universe does not get the credit it deserves because it is a pay DC known. I'll talk about the regulatory level. I'm somebody CW CDW so you don't watch whatever you want. I'm dying to show absolutely but yes my that's my favorite. That's why it's my my favorite. Okay at this is probably GonNa be the last one Which characters death in Eddie medium? Like books TV film anything like that. What what characters death hurt you the most? Oh Gosh I really have to dig deep this one. Yeah well it lasts the usual example give Fossa alcohol is all tiers all Tiers. I feel like someone died recently initiated moving remember me and our last show. Our guests said From this is US randomly. That's every day and we. Well I mean is for. I'm I'm probably forgetting a couple people a few people that I was hurt But I rick grimes from walking dead. I was fine is out. Wow My eyes. I thought he was wearing. No that's show up so sick of it. I did. You know seen in a while. I haven't seen in about a year and a half year after he passed. I was watching it so funny. I saw a commercial my dishes still going on Glenn. Every time I thought Glen I died too I was like Oh my God that we've finally did dead guy that one time he was was. Were you reading a book before now's looking at the Pierre? See I still. I knew I knew that might have been also walking. The show never broke my heart on me because I issue fifty Laurie. People hate it on the show but issue fifty when he killed Lori is. I wanted a moment for hours like I never want to read. This fucking book also hurt in the book. Spoilers faults I mean you know. It's like ten years old. Don't come on me Lori gets killed and the baby is at one shot. Took the baby. Yes she she gets. Shot falls over you. Know and as Ambi- it's fucking hall and in a Moment Matvey what's named I before that The main black dude who? He died in a show too but he Atari was at Harvard. Yes stories was on the show the very beginning. No he came in later. Yeah Yeah Teresa. For so long. He died hardly in that. Yeah so the plume wrote my heart so many times like where to buy time to show roll around even Lynn Linda Island. But that's that's pretty much David the book I read that I may be one hundred ten in the house done. I mean when Tony died I was crying like a baby in theater Endgame Oh I told this story on the show the second game I had already seen it and I'm watching it and notice. Infinity will actually and win Steno Stabs Tony With. His own army breaks off stabbed with his audience. Tony no older favorite random. Peter Moment is when I saw Batman nine hundred ninety nine the first one theater and I'm kid and Jack Nicholson he's Dandruff for free becomes joker and he's dressed in the mirror and I can't remember dwarfing is but she's like. Oh you look so good tonight. And he's like I didn't ask you if somebody in the audience. Can you tell that whole theater body roll? Like the timing was so hervey jagger like I ain't ask you like you was so little holes. I was walking up and down the aisle my theater selling Batman t shirts for concerts. Houston RIGHT YEP even understand how Batman Eighty nine. That was a moment like you know you had in those. That time was the hype was insane. She you know like people way not thought of comic books. Were wearing Batman t shirts. You couldn't them sit. Sold out every time they came into the store. You know like yeah. It was say my sister had G on painted the Batman Symbol on the backyard. Denim jeans you know it was I how did not just the marketing was so like. They started with just the The chest symbol. That was the first poster who just a chest symbol that black with the gold. You know so look really dope and from there it just I mean it was the it was a most. I've never to this day live in game and all that but it's such a different world we live in. Now you know social media and then like I say when you're sitting in that Peter it was like you know how we want to watch the game with that same funeral like fucking about to see excitement. Jd Excitement was like I said walking up and down. I'll selling at the concert. Bootleg Batman Neural People's slack. I love ourselves man. Well I also love you. You have survive the Barack segment which means you have survived for all nerds. Were thank you so much for cruising in a spaceship with us this week before we go. 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The Top Rocker Criminals

The Loudini Rock and Roll Circus

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The Top Rocker Criminals

"Today on the Lucchini hard rock and metal circus. We are talking about the biggest baddest and some of the not so being bad actual literal criminals in rock, and roll rock, isn't just about bad, boys. Batgirls like kind of pretending. But sometimes these rock and roller literally go out and create for themselves criminal record. That's we're talking about today on the Lucchini hard rock and metal circus. You're listening to the Lou Dini rock and roll circus changing rock history. One podcast at a time. Welcome back everybody. The Lou Dini hard rock and metal circus is live, and in your face, and it's going to be good show today. We have some great bands, we're going to be playing for all y'all out there. So stick around for that. We're going to be talking about criminals rock criminal literal, criminals, not, like what somebody just somebody message at the beginning by say nickel back is, you know, criminal because just by factor Nickelback, because they have shitty music. I mean, in some people's opinions, you know. Yeah, and that's fine. I mean, we're all, you know, you all y'all there can for some reason, I'm from the south from today, you're not doing like a little. Actually easily do. So that's the topic for them. We're going to get into that here in a couple of minutes. But first, you are listening looney hard rock metal circus. Our website is Lucchini, rock and roll circus dot com. You may also find us on the rock ridge radio app. Rock ridge. Radio dot com. Download the app, you can listen to great hard rock and heavy metal like whenever you want about that as well as we are officially now member of the classic ninety two point three family as well. So you can find us on that station as well. So we are in a whole bunch, defer all over the place will like everywhere. Well, like a bunch of maniac criminal crazy pieces, so lily, what's going. We've lily be six with years. She's our resident rock historian and knows all things about everything whale. So lily what's going to what did you do this week? What's happening this weekend? I actually went to two benefit shows Friday. I went to unchain saved by the scene. Put on by Jonah, but you got the photographer. Okay. He's doing a whole documentary on, how music will help your mental illness, if you have some sort of thing going on there. Well they did. They put on a benefit show and it was wonderful. They had a lot of good prizes star off. I've met the accident hit a whole bunch of tickets from keeping pavilion, people want in good times. And then Sunday, I went to dollars for Denny which was a benefit helping. Local friend. Denny la- Galea. He's, he's going through cancer right now. So they mean street was there a dying breed. Acura, switch the delta struts and. Dirty confession. They all performs and they raised about six thousand dollars for Denny's clause in great drive. There was it was super fun. They had a bike ride that morning as well. So two very good benefits is what I did this weekend. Well, look at you being all charitable, and everything whatever, what, what ought to folks back days. So those are great causes lily, and thank you so much for sharing that. And so we're going to have a great show tonight. We have some great bands as always, I take a little bit of time each. We this isn't I just don't throw this shit together for you guys. We actually like think about what we wanna do. And I've got a couple of cool. Actually have a really cool. Pittsburgh band. You probably know their band called Royal, Honey. Yes. Yes. I do know them real Honey. They sent me a whole bunch of songs. So we're gonna place on them from Royal, Honey. We're gonna have speaking of Pittsburgh, you're gonna have I'm gonna play by popular quest, where have all the assets of queens gone, from my latest, single new singles are coming out. We're putting putting new together right now. I also have a band that I discovered this week through somebody, I think it was Jim Vernon. Our private. You don't know about our private group. We have a private group, where we party after the show's we I do a whole bunch of different Facebook, live throughout the week, and it's a great place to meet other people that are really passionate about great music. But this is a band that they introduce it's, it's got meant brought up to me, and I believe Jim Vernon did a band called bourbon house. So we're gonna play them a little bit later. And then another band that showed up that I learned through the group as well a band called eulogy that we played before a happy, little number called you'll die alone. Oh, that's called. Eulogies. You know, would just bring in, but we're gonna we're gonna open up the show with dirty romance by Royal Honey, Pittsburgh zone. Royal Honey on the Lou Dini hard, rock and metal circus. Well. Bimbo. That is Jordi ruins by Royal, Honey. Let me go ahead and give you guys where you can check out, get a little little a Royal hunting for yourself. They'll teeth little tastes that. Royal, Honey, you can go to Facebook dot com slash Royal, Honey. PG. H. P. G H for those are you were not in the know is for Pittsburgh, and they are still super new, so they don't have a website yet, right? Yeah. But they've got actually some new. So coming up, we're gonna be playing some of the stuff in the coming weeks, but I just whipped this off Spotify right now. Guys could check them out of him on Facebook, Royal Honey back fast, facebooKcom dot com slash Royal, Honey. P G, eight Chennai. Fun to see live to. Yes. Are this. Former dirty charms people Bobby, though. Yeah, Eric Rogers plan is with them as well. Yes. If you guys aren't those from Pittsburgh. Maybe you don't know this, a great band, that was legendary Pittsburgh. They've kind of gone up with their own stuff now but there was a charms and this band, is off shoot of that there's so you guys check him out. So we are talking about criminals. Not just your average garden variety criminals were talking about rock and roll Christmas. Rocker boys and girls. Some of these people have done little things. Right. Lily little little stuff. Philly things silly prank kind of thing, but somebody's people have done some messed up shit. So we what do you want to do you wanna do you wanna start a little on the light side of things today? Lily wanna we got where where do you wanna start, I'm to let lily kind of like jumping with this? Let's find a light one. Okay. We'll start with Ozzy Osbourne. I mean he's been arrested for many things. The one thing I did choose was, and I believe we've talked about this on the show before, is he decided one day he was gonna get all boozed up as Ozzie does where one of Sharon's his wife's dresses and go pee on the. Now, was it just that he happened to be near the lake just had a p he he's from England? He doesn't know what the Alamo is. He's not from America. Of course, the Texans took very personally, though as Texans would or anybody in America is oppose, and he was sentenced, or he was banned from its Antonio for ten years after being the Alamo which if you've ever seen it as a teeny tiny little building, you would mistake it for really. So there's no big light. This is the Alamo. Please don't be year, right? No. Not signs saying, please don't pee on the hour, though. Peeing on the Alamo? Please don't have bath. I would imagine the Alamos like a it's a landmark tourist attraction. Dude have bathrooms you think. Or maybe at least a porta-john, but I mean as he does what he does he's going to do it, whether he bathroom. We've got to go. He's gotta go dry. What was wait a minute? He drank is p movie. Yeah. He drank, he snorted, widen, drink the P at the Alamo and should just squirted up like a fountain now might have been thirsty. They saying case emergency aim ethic at your mouth, but he had a he had a thing with putting on Sharon's dresses. And while it see it doesn't take it doesn't take much from what I understand, to get British men to wear women's clothing really doesn't. I don't know the rules. Yeah, that's that. Yeah. I heard the Monty python people talk about this. They're like, hey, drag. Yeah. That's kind of like most places that'd be like that'd be like a fine misdemeanor. Not that big a deal, but I'm pretty seriously. He was banned for ten years. Ten years from San Antonio. Specifically. I mean Texans were pretty proud of their, their heritage. I mean if he peed in my front yard I wouldn't do. Live Facebook live already peed on me. No, no. I'm not into that weird. Well. Like, like, like if you're standing in the urinal, and he likes peed on your foot. Like that'd be fine. You know, but, like a free like, hey, mop to you. We're not getting weird whipped out with it out, you know, peeing on you. Might be a little awkward. To say to say the least. So we do it. I know. But so. So what does she got? I have one that's a little more bad, but not like insanity. Like some of them have on here Sebastian Bach, formerly singer skid row does his own thing. Now, I'm actually he's just announced today. He'll be in Pittsburgh in September. So we didn't I want to finish a story that I wanna ask you question about that in a minute good. Okay. In two thousand eleven he was charged with assault mischief in possession of marijuana. He was out night, one night, drinking in Ontario. You know, home country things went south after Bacchus friends asked the local artists on stage if they could send a few songs they said, no, it's their gig whatever. And so they started heckling the band. Of course. They pelted them with ice cubes the owner asked him to leave, but before complying box, mashed one glass, in the floor than, you know, a fight happens and really Sebastian Bach started fight. I can't you decided to bite the pub on the hands. He bit eventually after the fight started, and then the pob owner asked him to go get a racist. And Bach was quoted to the new thing you can take your grandma to a friendly's, and she can drop water glass on the ground. Nobody tackles her. So why can't I do? The sounds like a little bit more was involved, there Sebastian with the biting is skipped row doing something they are touring alone as skid row. And I thought I saw something where Sebastian Bach was announcing skid row was going to do some that he was going to now, I don't want to start a rumor back, I know because those guys eightieth fricken guts. Yeah. But skid row was just in New York about Sebastian and tobacco touring alone in September. He's doing skid row songs as he does who some is not what's his name is Mitch Malloy. Singing, I good road because my Mitch. He jump into seeing any good amazing singer looks gonna taste great. Sage presence, imagined him like jumping in anywhere. He's doing the dead daisies right now. He's doing busy doing white say, but he was doing the days a little while I told me you saw him and. Karrubi. John corroborate. Yeah. Okay. Sonny house. It's. Sebastian bach. You know, a little little nodding and fighting he gets drunk and he gets angry. It's actually he doesn't even need to be drunk. Still anger. He's gotta be what he's going to be fifty fifty s getting close to sixty. You would imagine, like maybe he would mellow out a little bit. But angry. He's an angry Canadian, it's very rare. I know what's right. You know, usually Canadians or like you know it's, it's all good. Hey. Yeah. You know, he wears a they just wear their too, and you know, hang out in the great white north and syndicated Lee, and that's pretty much. That's the problem. They watch south park. There's a, a rush tribute. I know you love rush so much Regine but there's a rush tribute with Sebastian Bach. And I believe he sings spirit of radio. Really? He sounds amazing, well, great voice. So what else she got girl? So actually, the rest of them were sort of bad, but I do want to bring up the invade one. You know that one wing way what did wing we do? So this is it's kind of a funny story in bay. Mom seen Swedish guitar God as we know in nineteen Ninety-three swat team. Sent to his home in Florida after the mother of his nineteen year old girlfriend accused him of holding her hostage while quipped with a small arsenal guns firearms and things. She claimed the mother of daughter claimed that he pointed a shotgun at her render life after about a four and a half hour standoff. He surrendered and was taken by police wearing only his bathrobe and sunglasses. Which sounds English to me, he was charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon jailed on seventy five hundred dollars bond, but his wife denies this ever happening who he married the nineteen year old girl, and the press quoted him saying, I have no idea. What's up as he's being taken away? So was it real don't know, kind of interesting story, though. So I kinda wanna do the church do you start that reminds me of a story, and I don't know if you have this on your list, the abuse, probably because person isn't really a rock kind of person, but many years ago when Jackson Browne. And Daryl Hannah, I believe they. Were not married. They may were just living. You're married or not. But still calculation of domestic abuse, and I played in a band with a guy that anytime I mentioned, Jax Brown's always says, you know, he beat Daryl Hannah he'd beat their Ohana. But there is. No. As it turns out, that was did she they were they were having a party at their place in laurel canyon. Everybody was doing coke people party. And they had a fight in front of everybody. And she got mad and called the cops said that he smacked her at everyone is like Jackson. Browne, absolute did not smack girl Anna. He it was withdrawn. But to this day people still, you know, that's, that's unfortunate. I mean he was charged and had to pay a fine. But his wife denies it, which is the nineteen year old girl time. And he has no, according to SE still with the nineteen year old. She's probably not nineteen. No. That was nineteen Ninety-three. She's not. They you know older now. Right. Just a little bit a little bit. So what else she got? Let's go through now. There's tons of 'em. We could go all song and a little bit. Chuck berry. Several things I choose one founding father of rock and roll one of the founding fathers rock and roll in nineteen fifty nine he was arrested for kidnapping a fourteen year old girl. Drove across state lines. Of course that's a federal fence as we all know. The prosecution deemed it immoral purposes. And that's something that was never defined. What does that mean? No chain chino, J. And he received a five year prison sentence. They serve the five years. Wow. And he's done several other things too. But that's the one I liked the best. So I put. Yeah, he's another. You know. You know, more than one time. Yeah, exactly. I'm we're gonna come back and talk talk more about these offensive rock and roller and we're gonna talk about. We get some. The people watching tonight. We have lots of people why we're gonna be talking about your comments as well. So if you have a, a rocker favorite rocker, and I wanna know to this change your feeling about the music, do you like you know, because check berry grabbed a girl took across state lines for immoral purposes. Do now not like Chuck Berry's music as much are us, does it put you off the matter. Does it matter to you, or you just love the music and you don't care? So I, I wanna I wanna get into that a little bit here because there are some situations where vans, sorta turned their back on, on an artist over over certain situations. So we'll get back to that here in a minute. We're gonna play another awesome piece of music. For all y'all since I'm from south today. Him this is a this is we just miles go right for the throat here. This is eulogy and. They're gonna they're telling you, you're gonna die alone. I'm sorry, Lil. You'll die alone. Yeah. This is you'll die alone by eulogy on the Ledeen hard rock and metal circus. Eulogy you'll die alone alone alone. How can I get you alone? I just we check them out while while the songs we jumped over their website, first of all, eulogy I have like fifteen years in marketing get eulogy band, or eulogy rockstar calm because what you got there this. And what is the heck is that, and I? L J T nine dot wick, site dot com. Don't confusing. Yeah. Yeah, nobody can find it, but the bad guys from the UK. I love the guy's voice, and we are trying to place who he is reminiscent of the and it was the band, is Neil Thomas Mike Williams, and Darren Goodwin. They are from card if you K, and we love guys, and I listen to the, any hard rock metal circus over there not, but know that we are really grooving on what you guys are doing, just think as great photo to we've, we've figured it out. This photo is them opening for fuel band fuel because it's gotten feels backdrop on the website. Yeah. That's their picture on the website. So. That's the band eulogy and you guys can check them out there line. If you follow us more closely if your member patriot or some always put up the show, actually, the, the show, the links to the bands are on our pod being page as well. See can find all that stuff. Spear websites Latini, rock and roll circus dot com. Also, please support rock rage radio guys, don't really support just download the app, and they can is free, and you can hear great rock, like this whole time, also, please check out our new friends, classic ninety two point three great station. Thank you so much for having us as well. So we are talking these craving Rockstars and their new behavior. The kind behavior that lands up in fricken jail. Jerk. That's a giant, you don't jails like not a cool place. So we, we hit a few here, we haven't some fun, this not like a big countdown. We're kind of jumping. I didn't do it just kind of talking. What do we what do we do? We have any comments from our lovely fan base out there. Well, we do have Tom Proctor watching like I said, earlier, Kevin Anderson. Nickelback, the worst criminals. Joy conjure for act. She's actually mentioning that. I'm gonna talk about a little later. Vince Neal Dwayne Lopez. Jim as you're watching Kim Jones, rains from Albuquerque is watching so we get some friends Elba. Keith. I should make Lifton. If there's anybody with Bjork should get a life sentence for Merck Silverstein. I wanna know why if you don't know what that is. Let's Google that find out why it might just be because. Keith Keith, when you get a chance if you're watching what I'm drinking tonight giant, giant bottle creek. And I'm going to finish this by the end of the podcast. I'm so lying, well lose going to be dead. Call ambulance smell joy hundred access Pete Townsend. I don't think I have that on my list. It's Sean Schimmel Pittsburgh, represent primate love. That's banned getting touch with me and I'll play your shit. I mean, your music, not. He doesn't mean shit. We say shit for stop or music. What's happening triple our VP the former lead singer of dragging forces, the vocalist of skid row now. So thank you for that. So now you know Stevie. Steve. E T is we, we should do a podcast on heavy metal comedians because there's a few. These Jarrett's TV's one Jared, Jared dines is another one, but cvt, I believe is dragging fours. Okay. And Jared dines is in trivia while they have a very. It's not it's they're trying to pretend like it's an angry rivalry online, but it's not they're totally, like just having fun with each other comedian. That was fun. It's at the lava lounge for the close. I love the lobby place. I love that little feet in the front, where you could like VIP section. I had a lot of great first dates at the Laval these eighties made. It was it was always fun. I put my I had I played of good shows, and I did a, a couple of cool photo shoots. And they're yeah. It was just it is just an all around. Awesome place. The cool bar. So what's up on tap necks, people aren't getting bored? Got a little, we got a woman. I got when women never do anything wrong. Correct. Let's just let's get to straight right now. Even if they did it some man got them into trouble. They're mad at a man very are, and Bob drunk, Wendy Williams surprise, their leasing the punk for former lead singer of punk rock Plasmatics, which is no longer in existence. But in nineteen Eighty-one she was arrested after a gig in Milwaukee for simulating oral sex. Masturbation with flood hammer. She was charged with seed conduct after the show, of course there was a fight. She ended up getting beating getting a beating from the policemen. She'd loved it probably. Here's an additional accounts of battery, but photos, taken of the assault led to charges against her being. Drops. And then she did it a couple of days later, gleaned and got arrested. Look look who, who hasn't sat at the lunch table in junior high and take it out. The banana that their mom putting their lunch and, you know, right. I didn't even in okay? Or whatever, you know, wasn't like you know, come up is it fast times at ridgemont high, buddy. Like honestly out of all the things very that's really I gotta say, like that's absolutely nothing. And that, and I you guys have those of you that are just tuning in never heard me before. I laugh at everything. I think everything is funny. I think people are stupid and areas and people and I just don't care. So if I laugh at a tragic situation, I it's just my we've dealing with it. I hope that you're not offended beating people. Police brutality is bad and that shouldn't happen. I'm afraid she didn't beat the shit out of the Cobb. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprise. She's was Pretty Woman. I would never. Yeah. Exactly. And she might have gone. Sandra Bullock on their assets. Cheating care. Anyway. She did it a couple of days later and Cleveland and time wearing shaving. See, that's that. That is that's real punk rock. They're totally punk rock. He was such a bad ass. I wish she was around. And there's something to be said for that sort of. Than. Authenticity like you're, they're really living, but they can get into trouble like like like as in get you dead. And I think this is what just a digress broke quickly. I think this is kind of lies people that, like overdosed and suddenly that Amy wine house, Janice Joplin, that I think they started to believe the persona that they were like Janet portrayed this, you know, drunken, kind of, you know, torchlight singer kind of on stage. And she just became that and ended up, you know, with all kind of very and I, I mean, yeah, I it's a weird life that these folks live, so who else would we got next on the list talking about. Body parts on stage. We're going to have Jim Morrison James, Jimmy the lizard king and front man of the doors. Arguably in the history of front, men, one of the one of one of the really the ins, and one of the guys that really kind of he was on guys at formed him and Mick Jagger and. Robert plant, and these guys really kind of formed like in people's minds before we knew what a front man was supposed to be. These guys were kind of setting it all up. So all up front man that we have become the no in love in through the eighties nineties, and even today, even like the dude from. Adam LeVine, and those guys like that, you know, like there's all, you know, they're all these guys are all building, Freddie, Mercury all contributing to that. And Jim Morrison is definitely one of those guys that, you know, a lot of guys are conjuring in some way, shape, or form, we was just doing some really yes. So what did he did? But he did some stuff into trouble. He attempted and failed to incite a riot at a performance in Miami. Nineteen sixty nine and exposed his PP on stage. They put our weren't out for his arrest, and he was charged with lewd, and Sylvia's, which I love that word sceviour and decent exposure, profanity, and drinking hit a report stated that he was charged simulated oral copulation, guitarist Robby Krieger during the show, what to trial. Or went on trial, nineteen seventy and was convicted sentenced to six month prison term, and a five hundred dollar fine. But of course, as you know, did not serve any of that, because the poor man decided to basically kill himself. So they say, I don't know if I believe that one, but that's, that's another podcast and thirty years later. He was finally pardoned by the state of Florida. If you have ever seen there's a great documentary, and Raisman Serik explains what this exposing himself, Jim did not. Yeah. Himself. What did he did? He did a prank again like many junior, high boys. They've done where the unzip your zip and you stick your hand stick your finger out. In my Wayne. Mature. Yeah. Because. Jim with the boy. Rear drunken. I don't think that's a big deal. You know what who cared really like I'm sure all those girls ultimately he was awesome it. He was pardoned thirty years after he's dead dead. So what? Who's next next on the least? Oh, let's just go ahead and talk about said vicious for a minute. Like now, this is a much more serious, serious situation. There is a biopic. If you will that try to explain what the situation was and how this went down. But wanted to tell everybody who said Vish, we have to we also have to remember there may be younger people why I like so we let it by who. So I know some people like who in the hell, Chuck Berry, you know, I'm sorry. But so get try to lilies. Lily is the goddess of all, that is rock history. Like fact check exactly. So let's go ahead and give a little kids at home, a little bit about who said vicious was and what the situation, they'd vicious was the basis for funk band Sex, Pistols, if you don't do the Sex, Pistols, are they were one of the. Pitt amies? And how did we not mentioned that on best band names? How did we I don't? That is a great van name. Anyway, it is wonder it's wonderful. But then they were they were brilliant as well. But he and his girlfriend Nancy. We're heavy drug users, she was also diagnosed with schizophrenia. So this made their relationship kind of. Crazy. Nineteen seventy eight they were together for two years. No Patsy Clinton. They were together for two years. And after a night of heavy drug use a New York hotel room, Nancy was found dead from a single stab wound to the abdomen with a knife owned by sid decided he was gonna give varying accounts of what happened. He said he didn't mean to kill her. He just Salvdor but he didn't mean to kill her to he has no memory of what happened that night at all he was charged with murder, but never saw the trial, because he had a heroin overdose. But yeah, that's pretty bad. They wrote dead. Now there's a movie if you wanna check out cid's sid Nancy the way, I believe of my memory serves. It's depicted that they he had, I don't know why had the knife out, but it was where she kinda came running towards him and. Yeah. Well, but they were wasted, and it was a and he literally was not trying to stab she like ran into the knife. That's house depicted in the movie if you are family members of Nancy, and you don't agree with that account. Well might not I mean, I don't know. She get information. But that's what, and it was with there were by themselves a hotel room hotel room in New York. So how are we going to ever ever? Know anything about that. That's one of those things that the, the sort of truth of that of the secret to that went with them to their graves and one of those big rock mysteries. That's another show. Like rock legends or like rock mysteries. That'd be. That'd be good. One twenty seven club with another good show. Yeah. We do show the twenty seven club. So what's what else she got there? Here's one that I have that could possibly not have happened. But the gentleman was still charged sentence. Dave Holland, drummer, former drummer of Judas priest he was the drummer from nineteen eighty to ninety eight found guilty of tempting rape on seventeen year old boy with a learning disability. Ooh took drum lessons from him doesn't four he was sentenced to eight years in prison. But he claims that never happened. Eighteen year old obviously was a little, you know. So you can't really you don't. You don't. Nobody was still sentencing Arjun while you. Okay. Okay. I can't go to break on that one. You gotta give me this like a little something that's have anything beats. Oh, god. Okay. We're gonna play a song, come back. Holy cow. Really? Really? Oh my God. Okay. We're not trying to bomb everybody out. That was that the bad one, and I think that is one of those, that's a line that I do not think that you can come back from, I almost think you could probably spend murder easier than you could spend doing editing to kid with a right child with learning abilities. Like, what I mean. That's like. That's, like that's like that's like douchebag ary that actually have Sherry up, you know, more than new. Yeah, that's just absolutely screwed up. So I don't think there's much, you know, anybody come back from that this is a band that I really wanna play for you guys that I just discovered today. We'll work in about out about getting them on for an interview sa- Bank called bourbon house devil on my heels on the genie hard rock metal circus. The devil. Art, everybody that is bourbon house devil on my heels. Does it ever get on your every on your heels? Lily. I am the devil. Well. And boom mode died of. I don't might. A can't. Oh, but going so we. Are talking about rock and roll criminals? And apparently all the light-hearted shit is over. We're now until really hard core. So if you're easily like grossed out, or fended maybe wanna know, maybe, maybe wanna listen to something. Get your shit together. Don't be a little right? Exactly. Exactly. So, so the guy who would we got we got a few more, and then we're going to wrap it up for today's so GT? Alan singer songwriter record producer known for several bands. I didn't list all of them. So go to Kapiti but he's been arrested over fifty times in his lifetime. His most infamous is the nineteen ninety two after gig with, with the band murder junkies in Austin, Texas, tough tongue-tied, and the show quickly evolved into a horrific spectacle of the singer being naked and covered in his own blood and feces, people were running, and screaming from the stage covering their faces because he was throwing shit at them and it hit them in the heads, and the faces they probably eat it. Don't throw he was sent to a nearby hospital for the self inflicted wound to the head, and then was arrested and extradited to Michigan on outstanding warrants from parole violation furnace salt charge. Elsewhere. Gross. Yeah. Don't there like monkeys? There's a story about this is this was an arrest that Iggy pop when he was in the Sturgess went behind the drum kit. And took I believe that he's crazy, though. I believe that. So weird. He's in a new movie, this news, AVI movie out with Bill Murray and Adam driver. I know I really, I can't remember hilarity like it's like a heart comedies. Like one of those evil that like Sam Ramey kind of things and. Papas in Carol Kaye from Saturday night. Live. Remember, scrooge? Yeah. She's the first ghost with fairy. Like him in the face and kicks, but yeah, she's in a whole, it's like who's who Danny Glover funny? But anyways. So speaking of funny stuff, wh what are we get this, get a couple that funny, Michael Todd the basis, excuse me? Former basis Oko heating, Cambria twenty eleven hours before showing Massachusetts. He walked into a Walgreens showed a pharmacist, you don't know this one showed a pharmacist text on its own that indicated he had a bomb and blow the place to the ground if they didn't give him Oxy gotten he left a store. Six bottles of pain pills got into cabin to the venue. Once they're police tracked him down and arrested on charges charges of armed robbery, Fulham iphone went crazy or they went. Possession of a classy controlled substance. He did not join his bandmates on stage that night or any other night going forward because within hours of rest, the abandoned replacement for of course, you on something like that I had to have a little bit. Oxycontin for I had a recent medical procedure. I'm going to tell you right now. I understand. I people say that, like I don't think people are using it recreationally. I think what's happening is people are stressed out, and they take this and they realize how like that stress just evaporates. And that's so that become. And I so I could I sympathize with people that have that problem? But if you have that problem, please, you need to go get some help because you're gonna get into trouble. She didn't pharmacy and pulling a. Todd. Todd god. Michael Todd you get into pulling, Michael Todd on somebody's ass. Yeah. You wanted to try to avoid that, okay? What do you wanna tell me more? You got more to more the one for fun which I'll be last, but Vince Neal, which is one of the most famous ones lead singer of motley Crue some ways, I think this may be the most dubious. Yeah. But go ahead. He's had several run-ins with the lies everyone knows. But the most notable is manslaughter nineteen Eighty-four during a party at Neal's California home, he and razzle the drummer for Hanoi. Rocks decided to drive to a local liquor store to get more beverages, because I need while they weren't toxic aided Neil control of the vehicle did on coming car and crashed Neil in the others in the second vehicle. Survived razzle was killed immediately. He was sentenced to thirty days in jail served fifteen days. Five years, probation, two point six million dollars restitution and two hundred hours of community service. And as you, if you saw the dirt, you would have seen you know how that sort of went down a little bit. But that's I mean he got off light. And nobody even everybody listens. The motley Crue. Everybody's loves the. Movie, the result of them. It's. Yeah. You wonder what razzle family? Thinks about that situation too much of the restitution, two point six million dollars. Two point six million dollars. Is that enough for somebody's life? Right. You can't. But then it raises a whole lot of questions about like what do you do? And is the criminal Justice system, just about revenge. Do we make do? We do two wrongs to make one right? I mean phrase questions that are way too serious for a rock and roll podcast. But just kind of put it out there this stuff. You might wanna. You know, smoke a little grass and chew on. Good. Give her last last one for fun. I put on here, even though it's not funny in any way, shape or form. It's just the name. Gary glitter English glam rock singer, famous for rock and roll parts, one hundred thousand people just for fun screwing around. Everybody knows his song, rock and roll part. It's played at a lot of sporting in not going to sit here and sing. It's you can look goes. That's not it. But. Convictions for possession of child, pornography child abuse England, nineteen Ninety-seven Vietnam, two thousand six he was released from the Vietnam prison. But glitter who is now listed in the UK sex offender, registered for life, by the way was arrested again, in two thousand twelve for more, alleged offenses and. We'll jets guiding going to go and take over his son. Do you want to touch me 'cause I love that? Well, that's that's horrible. Yeah. He's an awful person his name hysterical. And if you ever saw he looks hysterical to he looks like a fruit loop. And John FOX actually asked if we're going to talk about the Norwegian bands, deter ch- burnings and other atrocities. I cannot talk about that stuff for some reason. I did wanna put it on here. Go, what's that movie lords of chaos? Right. Watch that. I can't watch. I can't I saw. I can't do it. That is. I mean that's taking the whole thing, too. Extreme limit to right to where you're living that. There was this whole thing that went around in those guys who are young, do not remember this, but in the nineteen eighties, this was all over daytime talk shows, this satanism where they were saying, you know, and people were saying that they, they were bald and say, Catanha called and children were being abused. And there was children's sacrifice everything like that. And there was investigation because this is serious charges. It was investigation investigates investigation, and honestly nothing ever came of it. There was never really any arrests made over it or anything. It turned out to just be people all excited and wanting and didn't know what to do with when their kids came home with an iron, maiden or metallic album. And so, so this was. Story. However. Over there in that country in, in, in Norway. Apparently, there were a handful of people that were literally and took it to that level where they burned churches and things like that. And killed people. You'll be bad. I can't we talked about it on the show. One time I can't do it again. So so, you know, people do whacked out stuff and just because you are famous doesn't mean you're a Saint you don't get a path. There is a there's a you look this kid remember what culture or Looper has an article in video on musicians, who are actually awful terrible people, and I'm sure some of the people, he talked about ten night on today's podcast are on that list, is well, I did not use that as a reference for today's show. I did have a did you look at any of these yet already looked at all those already? But there's some riverfront times the richest which we get a lot of material from have some lists on shocking crimes by Rockstars gee-gee Al, and I did see on there. It was on every list, that was one thing that you did not mention, and I'm glad you mentioned because I don't believe the person, first of all the person was never convicted. And the person has is now dead can't be around the defendants of Michael Jackson was not gonna I would never have enough information to put him on a lift. Right. And there's a lot of conflicting information things that can go one way and things that can go the other way. I have my own opinions on that and a lot of people don't agree. Right. So. We, we don't know if anybody was anybody commented about Michael Jackson or not. But that was not somebody that we were going to talk about because it's just it's one of those things that just, just going to remain unsolved. There's no solid proof you about right? And, you know, Nancy grace has one opinion. And Geraldo has another opinion, and if you listen to them debate about this, which I have you listen. That's good point. 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Exploring the cultural values of personal privacy. [Caveat]

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Exploring the cultural values of personal privacy. [Caveat]

"But it's too late like you can't get your data back. You don't know where it's gone. You don't know who has access to it. You can't delete it. You can't request it. There's method for you to find out anything about what's known about you. Hello everyone, and welcome to caveat the cyber wires law and policy podcast. I'm Dave Bittner and joining me is my co host been yellen from the University of Maryland Center for Health and Homeland Security. Hello, Ben Hi Dave on this week's show I have a story about our own state of Maryland trying to crack down on ransomware Ben Shares in New York Times story about facial recognition software and later. In the show, my conversation with Stuart, Thompson also from the New York Times, we're going to be discussing his recent article twelve million phones one data set zero privacy while this show covers legal topics and Ben is a lawyer the views expressed in not constitute legal advice for official legal advice on any of the topics we cover please contact your attorney. We'll be back after a word from our sponsors. Today's program is made possible by the Hewlett Foundation Cyber Initiative while government and industry focus. On the latest cyber threats. We still need more institutions and experts who take a longer view. Cyber Initiative supports a strong diverse cyber policy field that offers thoughtful solutions to complex challenges for the benefit of societies around the world learn more at Hewlett dot org slash. And we are back Ben. Before we jump into this week stories, we got some feedback from listener wrote me over on twitter. His name is Tom Dave Fan of your podcasts question today's caveat podcast. It sounded like the caller question was regarding revenge porn you both said that there's nothing that can be done. I'm not sure that's entirely accurate anymore I. Believe. In number of states have passed anti revenge porn laws. Is it possible to have that confirmed by Ben and amended if true also possibly make mention of the different groups such as bad as army that worked to help victims of it keep up the great work across all these shows enjoy them all from Tom so yes, ben you and I had. A conversation we were talking about revenge porn and this notion of whether or not someone steals photos or shares photos that were shared with them, but there's some nuance. Can you clarify here? So first of all, thank you for writing us as always everybody is welcome to do that on your social media platform of choice, Thomas Crack their actually forty one. States of some version of revenge porn statutes on the books. The statutes vary in terms of the punishments of some of them prescribe injunctions wear the hearst new post. The revenge porn is forced to take them down formal warnings, takedown notices, other infringement notices that varies across states as well. One thing that's notable that I think gets to this listeners question is Revenge porn has a very specific definition and not to too X. rated on our G. rated podcasts. Revenge porn the way it's defined in most states has to do with depicting sexual acts explicit stuff explicit stuff. Yeah. Let's just put it at that which means that posting. racy photos of your ex girlfriend or ex boyfriends well, ethically questionable to say the least wouldn't count as revenge porn for the purposes of these statutes even though obviously that could be used for blackmail purposes for some of the same purposes that people use revenge porn for I think part of it is lawmakers have to draw the line somewhere in the line they've drawn around explicit acts. So for example, or someone posted a picture of the woman in a bikini, not revenge porn in. Most states, it is not what if she renewed than in most states that would be revenge porn talk about showing private body parts as another part of what defines a typical revenge porn statue OCA- you know I think like if you wanted to look for guidance most websites, social media websites, terms of services would probably be a good place to start. You know you can post Bikini photos on facebook you can't post naked pictures and I think that's the general reasoning behind these statutes. There's also a lot of variety in terms of what we would call, but men's riot or the criminal intent of the person posting revenge porn. So Seitz often look at whether a person actually intended to harm the reputation of the person for whom they were depicting some states don't take that into consideration. The simple act posting image themself is violating the statute. Interesting obviously consent is a huge element of it so Most states have elements where if there has been explicit or implied consent by the person whose images are being posted that does not count as a violation of the statute and also I think is Tom Points out. There are organizations one that I know of that. He mentioned here they call themselves the bad ass army they are on twitter if you search for bad ass army and they. Help people who've victims of this sort of thing help guide them through what their options are provide support. But from everything I've seen a good organization out there doing good work to try to help people who find themselves victims of this earth. Yeah. You know whether it violates the or not when you are a victim of any type of online harassment like this, and that's what this is this harassment. There are resources out there. Yeah. All right. Well, Tom Thank you for sending in your kind note, and for asking for some clarification always good to do that. Let's move onto our stories. I'll kick things off for us this week. My story comes from Delmarva now, which is a publication that covers the Maryland Delaware Virginia area, and this is about the legislators who are introducing a ransomware bill that's going to tighten down the rules when it comes to ransomware UH, some penalties just sort of try to bring this into focus. This was written by Wesley Brown from Capitol News. Service. So we've got some. Maryland legislators, Senator Susan Lee at the Democrat from Montgomery, county sponsored the bill and it sounds to me like what they're doing here is just trying to to put the word out to criminals that even just possession of ransomware would be a crime in the state of Maryland. So this would be a radical change in the law around ransomware and Maryland the way the current statute works is only illegal actually used ransomware. This statute if enacted would criminalize the simple possession of ransomware in less the person possessed it for research purposes. So if you're in an academic setting and you were trying to study different types of ransomware that would not be violation of the statute. But as we do in other areas, the law, oftentimes, we criminalize the possession of something because the threat of the person will use. Whatever that thing is is particularly dangerous. That's why we prohibit in many instances possession of certain types of firearms even if a person does not use the firearm so we're criminalizing somebody for simply possessing what can be very dangerous in Maryland has experienced obviously in dealing with dangerous ransomware right most famously Baltimore City was the victim of a ransomware attack back in May of last year crippled city systems for several months took me awhile to get my water bills. Is Not Fun to get a bill three months later for a per three, hundred dollars is obviously this is a very serious problem and the key with this piece of legislation and I. Think this is something that Senator Lee would agree to is it's a deterrent you want to make it as undesirable as possible for people who are even considering possessing ransomware to realize that their actions would violate this law and they would be subject to pretty significant penalties. I. Think the statute calls for something like a ten thousand dollar fine or five years in prison. As a maximum penalty So it's a misdemeanor, but it's a it's a serious misdemeanor. Yeah. So we are creating this deterrent effect a couple of things noteworthy here one just a shout to one of your colleagues and certainly friend of the the cyber wire, Marcus Rajshekar he testified on this bill he sure did yet. He is a friend of the show also a fellow employees at the Center for Health and Homeland Security Marcus testified on this last year the bill was not enacted in the two thousand nineteen legislative session is all marcus fall just giving marcus. Our back here in two thousand twenty, they have made some changes to the bill to make it more palatable and from what I heard Marcus. The hearing went very well, and there seems to be broad increasing support for this type of legislation largely because. Not, only Baltimore City, but also the smaller city of Salisbury Maryland also suffered a ransomware attack. So there's just more of an awareness for how much of a dangerous to our localities, and this is a proactive measure for there to be a deterrent nothing worth noting on it. Now, if you were going to mention this is that a couple of other states and this is what Marcus mentioned this testimony Michigan and Wyoming have experimented with this approach the approaches. So new that we don't actually have any quantitative research on whether this is an effective deterrent to cyberattacks that remains to be seen. We'll let me play devil's advocate on that a Maryland. Law. Would affect citizens of Maryland. Right do we think that the people who attacked the city of Baltimore were Marylanders I don't probably not what I'm getting at is how much of this ransomware is even coming from within the United States so I agree with your devil's advocate take That's what lawyers do play devil's advocate. A couple of things though that sort of principle is applicable to a lot of different state laws. Okay. You could say white passed a state law in anything because somebody from Virginia could come in and you know do this illegal behavior and then would go beyond our jurisdiction. We we wouldn't be able to catch them. Okay. So it's still a deterrent factor just because the state of Maryland is making a statement, this type of behavior. Is Criminal in nature So sometimes I just simply stating. that. The possession of something is criminal. itself acts as a deterrent that ne'er do well who's thinking about their bank account is almost empty and weighing their options and saying you know I have some computer skills maybe all just spray out ransomware here they may see this and think twice absolutely. Yeah I mean it it's the deterrent effect I think is something that we use for all criminal statutes. In instances where it's the perpetrators are beyond our jurisdiction I think the state of Maryland is just doing what it's what it can in the absence of federal law that criminalizes ransomware and the absence of some sort of you know international law. We can only control what happens within our own borders, and so this is this is a start and it's also beyond the tangible effects of the. Statute and I don't think have an estimate of how many people per year whatever would be prosecuted it's about the intangible which is sending a message that possession of ransomware even if it is not us in and of itself as is both wrong and potentially dangerous So stay in school kids stay in school kids there better ways to make money right betting on sports just. Don't. See ransomware. Absolutely. All right. Well, that is my story Ben what you have first this week. So my story comes from the New York Times got a lot of play over the weekend written by Kashmir Hill. It's entitled the Secret Of Company that might end privacy as we know it about a company called clearview ai started by gentleman named on tots thirty-one-year-old Austrailian. The way this application works that he created is you can take photos of anybody on the street and using this technology is facial recognition software. It can match that person's photo to publicly available information. So if that person has posted social media pictures or if that person is featured in a youtube video, if they're photo is anywhere on, the Internet can be matched to the photo taken on the street. And what was previously unknown about this relatively small startup company is that six hundred law enforcement agencies across the United States have started to Make use of this technology have have used clearview ai to help solve crimes as you can acids incredibly effective crime fighting tool right I mentioned an instance I believe it was in South Carolina where two individuals got into a fight and park I by standard took. A video of the fight, the police were trying to find the perpetrators they use clearview a I matched the person's face with publicly available information got that person's name and we're willing to affect wait and arrest. So that side of it's very good. The other side of it, of course is frankly very disturbing. We've talked a lot about technologies that are invasive of privacy that would create a perpetual surveillance state. And tell me if you disagree. I don't think I've ever come across technology potentially as invasive as this largely because it's facial recognition, it means. The thing that's most personal to us our our face before Grafton public be matched up to publicly available information online and to be used potentially by law enforcement. If for so for years for decades, we have been okay with our image being captured when we're out in about in public right surveillance cameras, which we think we all agree for protecting retail places for. A. All reasonable, and we're I think overall mostly comfortable with that taking that to the next level whereas we are out and about gathering up a log of our I'm just imagining in a walking into my local fast food joint and walking up to the counter and having the person behind the counter. CEO Welcome back Mr Bittner and cool. Article, say you know when they were first brainstorming these guys came up with this startup and they were brainstorming ways to use it and one of their suggestions was well, why don't we give it to hotels? they can take a you know use security footage of a person walking into the hotel, and then make them feel very at home and welcome when they get to the front desk. Say, hello, Mr Bittner. Again Welcome home at home and welcome is not the feeling that I'm going with here. But I right. There is a I was sorta following the reaction to this article on social media, just kind of as an active twitter user myself and more. So than any other surveillance articles that have seen recently, even the New York Times expose we talked about a couple of weeks ago and that we're GonNa talk about in our interview segment today there's just the sort of depressed angry reaction to the fact that this technology exists the fact that it's used by law enforcement agencies across the country. And there was sort of a a tone of resignation on. The founders of clearview Ai Mr Tone, todd basically said social media sites themselves are scraping users, images, you know facebook does it all the time right? It's not us that invented the use of facial recognition software. We are just sort of augmenting this tool, and then there is this other kind of Orwellian quote. So one of the investors, one of the early investors in the startup as a guy by the name of David Scelzo founded cure Naga partners and he was interviewed as part. Of, this article he dismissed concerns about clearview making the Internet searchable by face, which was sort of the logical conclusion of where this would all be going. If clearview a I expanded and he that he's come to the conclusion that quote because the information constantly increases, there's never going to be privacy laws have to determine what's legal, but you can't ban technology sure. This might lead to a dystopia and future of or something, but you can't ban it I mean that's sort of A. Really eye opening and and frankly shocking statement of of nation in my view and you know it's sort of opera to. The general public whether they want that viewpoint to be the viewpoint of our policymakers. And in the absence of robust federal data privacy legislation. Mr Scousers view is the prevailing view that sort of what we've decided to accept as a society. There is no privacy out there We can have laws here and there that protect personal privacy person identifiable information but technology is limitless and whether the technology in question sounds dystopia or not it doesn't make sense to ban it, and so I think as a society, we're going to have to kind of reckon with that viewpoint all. Right. So a couple of things I want to ask you about first of all, there is no expectation of privacy when you're out and about in public wrecked rattus cracks. Yes. So we know that we're overall probably pretty comfortable with that. So I'm thinking about the earlier example you were talking about of the two gentlemen who got into a tussle. It was Indiana by the way I got the state round. All right apologies to the great. Wants. Me Lord I can't go there. Yeah. So two gentlemen getting a tussle in the park, they use the video to find them. How is this not a faster version of? Police officer canvassing door to door with a description saying you know this guy with the bushy eyebrows, a mustache in a Sports Jersey Do you recognize this guy? This is just that but faster. Think. The whole issue is that it's faster and it's instantaneous right so someone that used to take hours of police work you know a lot of monetary resources human capital staff resources now can take place with the click of iphone camera casually right without. No downside. Yeah and it's so easily done and replicated and I think sometimes the only thing protecting our personal privacy in the past was. The fact that it took a lot of work to conduct this type of surveillance when it doesn't take a lot of work and it's cheap and it doesn't cost a lot of money or resources than that type of surveillance is going to be in mass use of the fact that it is easier to identify people using this technology in and of itself is the reason why it's so dangerous for personal privacy in my view. Yeah. Yeah. When I've talked to law enforcement about these sorts of things I, I remember specifically having a conversation with. A chief of police about license plate scanners, and his point was will don't you want that criminal to be tagged don't you want I'm trying to make your family safer if that criminal drives by one of our scanners and we see there's an outstanding warrant for that person we're going to go get that bad guy and I'm thinking with this sort of thing you don't you want to know when that sexual Predator gets too close to that elementary school. Don't you want that information that that's the argument from law enforcement and I think It's compelling. It is compelling. I absolutely agree with one thing they mentioned this article and this was actually gleaned from clear views. Sales presentation is that the APP has helped identify some really bad people somebody accused of sexually abusing a child that person appeared in the Mirror of somebody else's Jim Photo, which is almost a stroke of luck. Kind of a TV show. Enhance exactly. As a law and order episode. A person behind a string of mailbox thefts in Atlanta that one do we need or well in technology for mailbox theft I don't know. for something more serious, you know a John DOE found dead on an Alabama sidewalk absolutely from law enforcement perspective any tool they can have to help solve and prosecute crimes is useful not only for law enforcement, but for the rest of us. Okay. So in your view, what's the balanced? We could strike with this I mean that's the billion dollar question I think and I know we've talked about this before the legal protections and personal privacy protections need to be made robust in order to catch up with technology. So you have to try to keep things in equilibrium because we can capture. Billions of people's faces just by strangers taking iphone pictures on the street and the laws have to protect personal privacy in a way that's just as robust. and. That Congress, passing you know a type of CCPA California Privacy Protection Acts Law that protects personal privacy, or it's the court stepping in and saying you know something like the Fourth Amendment which protects us against unreasonable searches and seizures has to be extended to cover this this type of technology that previously would have required some sort of invasive search or seizure into a person's property or into a person's private life. So the laws have to be adjusted to keep up with these rapid changes in technology. Now, that doesn't happen for a variety of reasons. Legal bodies are not startups. In case, you haven't noticed they tend to move in a different at a snail's pace. Sale versus the Cheetah. So that that's one part of the problem and you know from A. Makers. Perspective law enforcement is in there too saying, yeah we know that this technology potentially does sound Orwellian. But here, all the bad people we've locked up because of what clearview Ai has done Ryan, and if you can get in a lawmakers, you're on that, it's almost hard to turn this down as a potential resource I think I was struck by the outrage I saw on my social media feeds by people who otherwise just aren't outraged about this type of thing maybe by taking it a step too far. It will raise that public consciousness. So that Congress or the courts step in and say. We have to extend privacy protections, match the scale of the technology that exists well, and and how important that Dorgan is like the New York Times are out there bringing these sorts of things to light. Yes. I subscribe mostly for the Crossword Puzzles A. Yeah I mean they've done some very, very important work in this area. This was investigative work in an of itself. this person was trying to hound down the founder clearview ai for several months. The founder was getting very good at evading questions had set up a I believe a faked linked in profile for himself using like. He listed himself on Lincoln as somebody named John Good. which is you know Louis knows. Better than John Ditto. But I think. Eventually. They agreed to to speak with the author of this article just because I think that having an article posted without their input would be worse than their input. All right. Well, certainly an another interesting piece of work from the New York Times. We'll have a link to that in the show notes it is time to move onto our listener on the line. And had a caller call in this week with an interesting somewhat specific question. Here is this week's listener on the Line Hello I'm from Virginia, and my job is in the field of digital forensics. I wanted to know what are the legal requirements for painting a private investigators places when performing digital regine takes. All Right Ben I know you probably have the answer to this right off the top of your head. Yes. No. That is absolutely not true. It's a great question. I did a little research on behalf of that question I know this is probably the least satisfying legal answer people ever yet, but it really does depend on the state. So some states like Texas do require a private investigators license for most types of computer forensic specialists. Other states like California generally do not require the license because the nature of the work by computer forensics experts a so fundamentally different, it's in the. Course of computer forensics examiners, they're not engaged in the type of activity that falls within the purview of the definition of private investigators. You know sometimes they are professional engineers are conducting experiments You know they may be doing things like chemical testing you know, and this isn't just true for forensic technology all different types of scientists that may not be connected to any type of particular investigation and we don't want to dissuade those types of experts. From either testifying in court or continuing their forensic research and so that was the basis of the California. Law I would know that that California law seems to descend from a state. Court decision I was reading an article on this. The State Department that has jurisdiction over this issue didn't quite know how to answer the question you presented, but they ultimately based on California Court precedent said that the work done by computer forensics experts falls. Short of the jurisdiction under the private investigator act. So I would recommend that you look up your own state statute on what's required of private investigators, and whether a forensics expert has to get one of those private investigators licenses of there are a lot of resources out there that have done fifty states surveys on the scope of private investigator licensing laws across all fifty states. So I urge you to check that out. All right. Yeah. Interesting stuff and. Thank you for. That question we would love to hear from you. If you have a question for us, you can call and leave a message number is four one. Oh, six, one, eight, three, seven, two, zero. Four one six, one, eight, three, seven, two. Oh, you can also email us an audio file that would be at caveat at the cyber wire dot com send in your audio file, and perhaps we will use it on the air. Coming up next, we've got my interview with Stuart Thompsons from the New York Times. He's here to talk about his article twelve million phones one data set zero privacy that bombshell article Benue and I have discussed previously really interesting conversations to stick around for that but first a word from our sponsors. And now a few words from our sponsor, the Hewlett Foundation, Cyber Initiative from election interference to privacy surveillance and encryption to all the ways. Conflicts among nations are playing out online in the twenty-first century. Many of today's most pressing policy. Challenges are really cybersecurity challenges but too often key decision-makers in both the public and private sectors don't know how to craft solutions for society that work through the tensions trade-offs in our values. The Hewlett Foundation Cyber Initiative makes grants to universities think tanks and other institutions that contribute to a strong diverse cyber policy field. Together, they're working to develop balanced thoughtful solutions to pressing cyber policy questions learn more at Hewlett dot, org slash cyber. A. And we are back then I recently spoke with Stuart. Thompson is one of the co-authors of the New York Times article twelve million phones, one data set zero privacy a bit of a bombshell article you and I spent some time discussing recently here is my conversation with Stuart Thompson. Came to us after readings of the privacy project, we've been doing this year basically shining a spotlight on privacy and technology sort of again after you know sort of that's been a topic for a while but we've come back to it and you know they had access to this data and we're concerned with what they saw wanted someone. Shed light on it and really give a sense of the volume and scale of the collection's going on, and this is you know mobile phone locations and sort of tracking where you go and what you do in your life, and it's not really treated as a serious or concerning thing in the industry and sources were concerned in one and somebody to argue for change, and that's what we tried to do. What can you tell us about the data set itself? I know your source wanted to remain anonymous. Oh course who will respect that but the data said itself, how unusual is it among the people who trade in? This sort of thing it's pretty common is a huge industry and we're talking about millions and millions of dollars, lots of investment going on, and you know we counted probably around seventy companies trading in the state on some capacity were working around it. There's probably more than that. You know it's probably not too unfair to say it's a shadowy business, not very public facing. They're not companies that have household names although some of the household names to participate and location tracking like you know facebook and Google but there's a lot of companies never heard of like team. Oh and fits up in cubic and factual and these. That you know they're not as names and they've been collecting the data for you know decades since the end of the APP store pretty much launched and allowed companies to get access to GPS stayed on your phone, they've been collecting it and one of the popular companies that people probably knows foursquare and if you're like me and the beginning of the APP store days, you might have been checking into a business and trying to be the mayor of your local starbucks or something. But no little did we know at the time that that's some kind of utility is sort of like a social network kind of thing but actually way more valuable this turning that data into business insights and that's what's been going on for a decade but we've never really been able to see what that looks like. You know kind of have an idea of tracking we gotta think we understand what tracking his leg for targeted advertising but to actually see like a huge map of. The nation's capital was someone dot said it completely fills the screen is a different thing entirely can you walk us through how you approach this data? Said I mean how did you get started? How did you decide where you're going to begin? Date is actually really simple, which is another may be threat to can circulate around. It's just you know think of it like. An Excel spreadsheet of have you ever used that or tables simple table Scott latitude longest to date time user ID, and the duration of their stay in one place in seconds, and you know just a couple simple tools deconstruct mapping that out. So we built a couple of different dashboards and things that let us analyzing filter Adam basically trying to do is assess risk more or less came up with the list of things like what what might be risky in here unlike previous releases of data including stuff that the. Times has reported on which sort of the foundation for a lot of our reporting the state included Washington and that raise the national security questions. Like is the Pentagon in there are you know the nation's spies being tracked our congressman being tracked tractors, government buildings excluded from this or not? We basically found no matter where we zoomed into or how filtered there was a data point somewhere. So we just started looking at you know we zoomed into the Pentagon and we thought OK. Maybe there won't be any DOTS here because. It's a secure facility, but that was the case at all. There are hundreds and hundreds of pounds being tracked. The one exception may be the building which had no things inside of it, but it didn't really matter because there were things in the parking lot and that led back to people's homes, and as we gave clues to the ideas. So that's what we in said helped me understand here. Once you have established who an ID is associated with me, is that really the key to being able to track it individual Yeah. So the Dana includes an ID and if you look at any individual point, that's not that useful likes appoint and a house you know might give you something but if you can't connect that to a bunch of other points than it doesn't give you very much. But that's useful for marketers to know where individual people go. So they attached to it, and if you pull out one person's role points associated with that, I d he basically got a bunch of points around the city and its catalogs where they go. And the most common cluster of location pangs was the house usually because their phone is just sitting at their house most time at night or when the home eating dinner, and it's just hanging there locations as a huge cost to right at their house in the second, most common cluster is at their workplace also where they spend a lot of time. So they'll be meetings and having lunch in the break room whatever and that's their phones also a lot. So those two points are actually super. Revealing tonight identity and the data doesn't have a name. It doesn't have a phone number like a lot of people ask us. So can you look up my phone number in there? It doesn't work like that. You know the industry calls denonimated and that's really fundamental to their business plan to be like you know, don't worry about US regulate us too hard as anonymous data and true in a way because there aren't really any identifiable features in the data itself other than the location but if You think about where you go, you probably travel from poem to your workplace and how many people make that journey every single day, and that's the kind of digits in here. So we can look at a house and backup from there and look at public information that we have access to that. That shows their named runs the house, and then you know people post up online they've linked in profile they've twitter account whatever this newsletter somewhere some place on the Internet breadcrumbs that mentions your name. And your workplace and really that's that's a huge spotlight on few are potentially you know one or two other data points is enough to feel very confident but it is as you combed through the data were there any particular individuals are able to key into that that you found particularly chilling or or unsettling? How easy it was to track someone? Yeah. So we basically started looking at the data thinking comedian on is the data and you're looking at basically you're just a bunch of points like. A bunch of DOTS on a map. That's not really too scary. But the first time I was successful in tying a adot to a person by looking at a house in a workplace and a couple other places person went to formulate. They were it was really scary. It was freaky like I got goosebumps I like setback my chair to deep breath like I think I went for a walk it turned the data from something that's just spreadsheet a bunch of points on a map like someone's diary like it felt like pretty invasive at that moment turn something that's. Innocuous and sold and traded for profit to you know something very revealing about someone's life So it didn't have to be a prominent person to feel chilled by what we were saying, but than there were prominent people in there. So it we listed in story a couple of people senior Defense Department officials, secret service agents, and we found one secret service agent. We believe as a secret service agent if following trump around on a high profile weekend with a foreign prime minister visiting, a Mar-a-lago. And you see the the path in the story and it's like, wow, that's pretty crazy video to think we started out being like maybe maybe this is fully airtight maybe there's no tracking at all of people within a little arm's reach of the president but that's not the case everyone will sort of involved in this. Now, the people who are buying and selling these data sets, how restrictive are they in terms of who they will sell to if I went to one of these companies and I said Hey, I want to buy a bunch. Of this data, how hard would it be for me to get my hands on it? It's a great question and we can only speculate based on what companies say we've had detected some insiders, former employees and so on. But the truth is there's nothing legally stopping them from selling to anybody. So you can imagine and the former co foursquare says, he was turning down million dollar deals to sell batches of data. Now, that's easy for fourth grade do because they have a big business doing other kinds of analysis, but if you're a startup small. With twelve people you have an incentive to make money and there's nothing legally stopping you from saying this and you know we had. Former. Employees, the companies tell us you know contract like this go for millions of dollars. So yeah, I mean the company said they work with trusted businesses they have vetting process includes references you have to have a plausible business case. Those are the kinds of parameters the companies tell us about but the truth is there's no way to really say that that's all that happens of course, companies want to say that and it's hard to evaluate because there's no, there's no. Obligation for them to report who they sell to companies won't tell you where they data from work goes, and we can piece together by looking at some of the big players that you know, analyze the data and you know boast about the analysis they're able to do but it's it's a black box in a row way. What's the reaction been to the story I'm thinking specifically have you heard anything from anyone safer on capitol. Hill so Congress seems extremely distracted right now. That's a fair point. So we haven't seen any of hearings triggered right away but I think there's definitely a number of senators who are interested in privacy in polk for their own privacy bills and you know this kind of thing I think adds to the the sense of unease that people have when privacy returns to the forefront expect some sort of Privacy Federal Privacy Bill definitely within the next couple of years. I hope this year, but it's election year. So they never know, but there's definitely going to be federal privacy law coming in this kind of exposure is really important for people to understand the scale of what's going on in the industry that pretty much operates visibly like in the background of your phone. How has this changed your attitude to this sort of thing? Do you have a different perspective having been through? The the work that you've done here on on how you interact with your own mobile devices. I'm I'm I'm not now. I'm totally freaked out editor of joking that I was GONNA file a story by carrier pigeon because it'd be living in the woods somewhere. But yeah, I mean, when you see it and I started off the privacy project, I told me legal we're GONNA do series on privacy I was like okay like I remember reading about privacy look a decade ago and I was like I don't know if really Care like maybe if you know if you, if you consent, you know they give you a screen and you consent to it. So what's the problem I think like it's a little bit like we're all brainwashed a little bit to think that like the status quo is is the right kind of the only way can work and when you start like when I started looking at this data I just got. As I felt really sort of trapped like I couldn't escape the industry. If I, wanted to a lot of people, they don't want to right now but you know maybe after seeing the story maybe after seeing some more stuff, they might feel like they don't want to participate but it's too late like you can't get your data back. You don't know where it's gone. You don't know who has access to it. You can't delete it. You can't request it. There's no method for you to find out anything about what's known about you and you might change your mind on the road if you don't care like I did. I used four square I used to think location services were cool thing on a phone. It's like what a cool way what a cooling additional piece of technology we have access to now where you can like monitor your life, but it's extremely valuable to businesses and there's no there's no oversight the very few legal limitations on what they can do with it. So yeah, I'm totally freaked out I turn off my location services at all times my phone for anyone onset and. Yeah. I. Mean. It's it's scary but I know a lot of people don't do that and not totally equipped to deal with it. The other thing I'll say is we published our story which it's great and got a lot of attention but the second most read piece in the whole series was our expose on the national security threats it was how to protect your phone was like the three steps to protect your phone people want to know that stuff I think it's the responsibility of the companies like apple and. Google to make that much easier to adjust because it's you know we need to publish an article against three complicated steps with a bunch of videos to protect your phone when it should be much easier than that. But what are your thoughts on potential mitigations for this sort of thing is this something where we should see regulations or legislation? Do you have any insights there? It's complicated the solutions that Congress can put forward. I think generally I'd love to see more transparency I'd like, I'd like companies to have to. Publish where the data goes on what they do with it. If Congress looks at this issue and makes a federal privacy law, and the end is longer privacy policies. It's GonNa be a total disaster and so far a lot of the laws that get published is like essentially more notice more consent and that's not really effective than we're seeing that you might consent to share your location with an APP. You don't know where that's going and it shouldn't really be unto you have to decide all that. So I really like to see more pressure. Put on companies in a tangible way. You could really put a lot of limitations like the timeframe that you can keep the data for the use cases that you can use it for is another airing from the European privacy law. So if you stayed that you WANNA use for advertising, you then can't use it for Hedge Fund analysis or something has to be for the reasons that you stayed up front and yeah, I mean the companies right now you can keep the data forever. That's. Privacy. Risk for sure to be nice to have some limitations on that as people arguing that this stuff shouldn't exist at all. There's the use case where you give your location when APP and use it within the APP environment. But we're reporting on our companies that stood inside that have nothing to do with the APP, and then use it basically as like a mining tool to collect your location data and maybe that that seems to me like something that maybe should stop. All Right Ben, what do you think? Well, it's just great to hear from Stewart. First of all, we spent a lot of time on this podcast and I've spent a Lotta time my own brain wrestling implications of this article. So it was just nice to hear from women also nice to hear that he has been wrestling with. This was interesting to me is that he was put on this privacy project not being somebody who was obsessed with the digital privacy. He came at it from a perspective that I think a lot of people come at it with which is we all press I agree to the terms and conditions right? If I have nothing to hide why? Why should I be scared? And then he did this extraordinary research project and realized that there are a lot of reasons to be disturbed the not only the violations of personal privacy. But some of the things he uncovered about dangerous national security that phones were pinging inside the Pentagon outside Langley the CIA headquarters, and so it took him doing this extensive research to be at the place where he is now where he turns off location services on all of his applications, Ryan's. His colleagues are joking about him. Doing the story from in the woods. Yeah and I think sort of the logical leap to make from that is the more all of us would get into the weeds and how invasive this technology is the lack of transparency I think the more it would concern all of us. So sometimes, it's just a matter of I wouldn't necessarily use the word ignorance but just not understand resignation. Is, the word I think of yeah. A lot of it has resignation because we and I know we've talked about the Su- we like having location services for all of the conveniences it provides and it does provide a lot of conveniences and and other point I thought was very meaningful that he made is, yes we do have the opportunity to consents to location sharing within each application. But unless you do the type of research that he's done most users not only have no idea where that information's going but they shouldn't really have an idea where them formation's going. It should not be up to the users of these devices to figure out the dangers of sharing their location just like if you think of a non digital products, right it should not be up to the users to figure out where. I shouldn't have to keep a Geiger counter at my house to test the foods I bring into my home for radio activity at. The. Mine was going to be you know if your dishwasher stops working, it shouldn't be up to you to figure out. What right cog in the machine is causing that problem right us but I I like your example. You're right. We have general rules about radio activity and consumer products. We agree that's a bad thing exactly, and so this would just be another type of consumer protection. He shares my skepticism that Congress is going to act on this even though there's there's some interest by I think the place he wants to start, which is laws around transparency just so that people if they choose to be aware of where their information is going, have the option to be aware they not choose to be aware but at least giving. Oh. Thanks to the Hewlett Foundation. Cyber Initiative for supporting this week show, you can learn more about how the cyber initiative supports a strong diverse cyber policy field that's working to develop thoughtful solutions to complex challenges for the benefits of societies around the world at Hewlett Dot org slash cyber. 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Meridian new books children books which were written during the pandemic franken the abc's and frankie and his home school adventures of now on amazon and even out As of this month you can follow dr meridian at regina r. e. g. i. n. e. d. s. y. so it's one word averaging sided also instagram dr underscore regina underscore meridian and website is gene morality and brightness yari. Add i n anything for joining me. you're also starting to tell you about another organization you had found. I thought i'm gonna have you describe this to us. Tell us about it. Yes so we're actually a group of independent independent group professional professionals who came up with team project rise. It's a legislation proposal. We are actually proposing for legislation under cova relief. Bill right now. Our website is live or so excited as of yesterday. It's called team project. Rise dot com. Am e a. M. project p r. O project lies r. I s. e. a. And really this comes from. We're gonna be talking about today which we feel that meant just as teachers gets diversity training sexual harassment training at the beginning of the school year. They're really going to need mental health training on how to deal with the post covid stressors. These kids are coming back in a classroom with and yeah i just react to it emotionally because it's just like i've seen this coming for a year but keep go s. I've been seeing this also. Just yarmuth three You know. I talked to my kids all the time about going back. They're transitioning back slowly. But i'm already seeing the fatigue and the low motivation and i'm gonna suspect some post traumatic stress. One thing that came to my mind was you know as a go back in these cohorts. You know Just imagined teachers telling them don't get close to each other stay away he And the lack of socialization over this last Year what does it how this has really impacted them emotionally. So let's talk about that sort of Let's start many many many things to think about here. But one of the things i started thinking about because i was very distressed by these very issues. You're talking about which the the socio emotional development the lack of contact. But but then i started thinking. Well i mean back through. Human history families would live in little isolated units. I guess they would have tribal contact. At least there certainly are long periods of history. Were children were relatively isolated. Just re little house on the prairie. I mean you could get a sense of this country having had stuff like that. You are we over thinking this is. Is it something that kids are more resilient or or is it likely to have sort of a lasting effect. I i can't. I can't figure it out on my own mind because cogan is so unknown and we just. We're not really going back into a normal classroom setting senior. Sure you've seen this online. I certainly seen it feel right. Dickey's yeah there. Are there are groups of physicians now. Trying to go around and get states to open up completely because there just is no it's stuff is important but whatever and it certainly damaging to kids and i understand. I'm sympathetic teachers. By the way we've scared the shit out of them. Of course they don't they don't know whether to believe the state the county. The school board their union. Everybody has a different set of bureaucratic standards and opinions. And it's all bs and so of course they're confused and scared and we've had panicked porn going on in the press since this time last year. What do we do well. This is really your area. But i i try to figure out what we do to get teachers back. I think i'm i'm reasonably secure saying it's okay to vaccinate everybody. Let's get that done. Let's just get it done. You're you're in northern california right. I'm seeing that we're looking each other through zoom and you have a picture the golden gate bridge behind you is that because that's where you are. That's wishful thinking okay. I'm southern california. I'm in los angeles Sometimes i have the beach. You know this is how my clients baccarat. God i see this when we do our mindfulness. I'll think of the golden gate bridge right. So i was wondering northern california's as crazy as it is down here. Are you in school district. Where things are nutty or or things sort of well. You know my my kids are in quite a bit. But i have. I am seeing all. I have clients who are in the public school system So we're hearing it's interesting. I'm seeing the private schools going back slowly. Slowly they're doing things like this shining and bring back on campus once a week. Aguire i want to go back to what you said with the resiliency. You know. I think if they were going back normally let's say everything was kind of intact and we're going back in cohorts of ten with mass but none of the shield stuff going on and just a little bit of normal think that kids will bounce back yes. They will have a hard time. Look i remember back in march. That's why franken worry was born. Because i had a really hard time first month as a clinician connecting on zoom sure signs were scared. They were is weird I want to be back in session with you face to face so that took certainly an adjustment and then they got adjusted now as honestly right now what. I'm focusing on on and a lot of the sessions are focusing on getting you back. And how does that feel and really working through. Those symptoms of people are experiencing as a result of just the idea of going back. But i think what you said is the fear. There's a lot of fear here That they're insane but it's so artificial has generated by the press. I this is the thing that i was fighting against. At the beginning of the pandemic that has now had its sinister effect on everyone. Which is we've had a pandemic. they're awful it's nasty. You know people die in pandemics. That's what happens. Thank god this is a pandemic that essentially left young people essentially untouched. But we told them they're going to die in their families going to die any second on the outside world is death. I don't know how they ever an eight-year-old ever recovered from that. Well and i. And i think you bring up an important point is the conversations we as families have at home in what kids are seeing And you know again. I'm going to go back to conversations. We're having because this is the only thing i'm seeing personally. Is you know my kids will say well. Can i hang out with so. And so how can i go back to school with ten kids. But you're not letting me han ga with three friends. It's all silly but go ahead. Why not what do you tell them what do you what do you say to that and it and how do we control that. You know staying apart like okay. You can go out through through friends but please do it outside at the park. I hear and i think that's where we're that's the dichotomy here from a lot of parents as the confusion bring up right. It's it's because it's all built on nothing. No physician the cdc faculty. No physician ever said close schools. That was never a recommendation. Ever and i sat here in los angeles and talked talk to a school board member the day they decided to do this. It was on television. I said who who made this decision told you to do this. We think it's the right thing to do. Who who are you. A bunch of school board members making a gigantic medical decision with profound mental health. Profound socio developmental effects. What dude it's We're bringing the ship the navy hospital ship in. There's going to be dale mass. The word word from mayor garcetti. He used a word that just when you look at it now you just think oh my god what an idiot i got to actually pull the quota. Because i kept it on my phone. I took a picture of the of the hope. It's in here of the actual Article essentially he said Mass deaths in the street or something just beyond. But you know that that and now they're trying to undo it without taking medical guidance. The cdc has been very clear. It's safe open up. Aren't we doing that right. Wouldn't that have massive improvement on the wellbeing of young people at you know and i've spoken with a lot of teachers. Parents kids end the action to serve yesterday. Just a brief little survey before we came on and i think it was like fifty sixty three percent carbon for the number of parents saying yes. I want my kid in back in school. And you're going to have parents who are are not going to want that. And i think that's again i'd be interested in drilling into the ones that don't want it because because i'm imagining they been indoctrinated they've been made paranoid maids fearful but by panik porn parents who will also if there's our elderly living in the home where this fear of you know not necessarily fear of the kids getting something but the kids getting something passed onto someone who's immuno-compromised or And who may again by the way of a real risk of that. They're legitimate risk of that. The cdc would have told us what the cd has told us is. Your child is more likely to bring something home from the community than from school. That's the fact. So why won't they let them go to school too much. It's too much because they don't know what to believe anymore because they've been told so. Many horrible lies and distortions and yeah the they've reaped what they've sewn so anyway let's talk about. Let's talk about the developmental. I'm still looking for that article. I gotta read the headline because there's just too much to believe this from like march or april of last year. I just kept it on my phone. But i've got it here. The title the. The headline of the article is los angeles mayor. Eric garcetti warns of mass. Death mask stems. Falsehood tells us his city will be on lockdown for another two months and to be prepared for longer which is the mass death from march mass deaths. Two months mass deaths mayor. H here's that and freaks the hell out. Talk about ptsd. I mean this is. This is saying a nuclear bomb is going to go off in your community. The deep people mass. When you think a mass you're thinking of just just thousands and hundreds of thousands of people dying everywhere anyway but but so how do we. How do we help kids. What should we be well. What's the age group you're most concerned about. Let's put it that way. Well gosh i you know. I want to save the youngest. Let's let us kiner through twelfth. I think they're all impacted in their own way. I'm i'm gonna say this i. I've seen the little ones. When i say little lonzo mentally school kids more panic in scared than the teens teens are just thinking that you know. They understand the safety component. But i think. I just heard yesterday someone mentioning. Wait a minute Or stating at this safe distance. Which is important i get that. But don't they know that we're hanging out on the weekends right. And i think that with kids. When things are not consistent in structured they become infused and they can't follow any rules or any guidance or less lessons for children adolescents adolescent. Not enough rules. They don't you lie to them once. That's it you've lost them. And so they see this all as hypocritical lying and they're right there absolutely correct so you have makes me wonder How's that group gonna go forward in the world not able to believe authority or to know. Well maybe a good thing they would. Certainly i've noticed i have noticed. I've talked to fifteen seventeen year olds. Who understand the press is absolutely something they cannot trust and they're trying to figure out what is real. What isn't i. don't the ones. I talked to actually doing a pretty good job of figuring it out. The ones i worry about are the ones that go to social media and start going down rabbit holes just reading. Too much in making their own assumptions teens. Also they make a lot of assumptions and what they read into interesting. Yeah the group. I the most distress i seen is from eight to fifteen. I would say that's the the the younger adolescence and the older children but lot of distress. And i think we're gonna see. Ptsd in those groups absolutely and what about the kids. I'm thinking who already had prior presentation of anxiety. Forget it yeah the hypochondriacs and how that's going to just we're gonna see an influx in that and thus the premise of franken worry visas. I was noticing so many negative thoughts that were just peeking through and they were they were just the the fear right was just though elevated and the whole thing with my book was all about. You know really helping kids you know. Say the negative thoughts. Write them down. But there's also positive side to that so you don't get immersed and stuck in the negative And so easy for us to get stuck in the negative. Read the negative. But how do we really get ourselves out of it and for kids to really conceptualize and make their own decisions at that time. So if they're in a classroom. Look i'm going to give an example. You have a hypochondriac anxious. Child may journeys anxiety right or socially whitey arches in income see now still show more social anxiety more social anxiety and the fear of getting imagined. You know they're going to be at recess. Are they going to be able to play. Recess in basketball and dodgeball like the usa. Thing about social anxiety makes sense on two fronts. A every social interaction is gonna kill me right as a source of death or killing. Or i'm gonna kill my grandmother because i had social interaction and to. I don't know how to do it anymore. Or i never knew how to do it in the first place. Now i haven't had any opportunity to develop it so yeah madge social anxiety and so. That's where i think we're going to be seeing the reduction. So this is this is part of why we're so You know this this whole team project rise how it came to burn to be berthed was. I'm concerned about these kids. Reentering and teachers are going to be timmy. Like the first responders. Mike head all day long so see. My kid is stressed. I'm seeing it on zoom right now. Hey turn on your camera. Hey you're not paying attention well. Some teachers are really great at you. Know checking in and saying are you okay. I have thirty kids in my class right now but sending me a little message are you. Okay what do you need. But some are just so overwhelmed. I think teachers again. That have a lot of empathy for them. I know how hard it has been for them and they're just trying to do their job and get these kids through. But i think mental health ring now is number one should be number one in terms of training and where we see so. I see all the kobe safety stuff. Yes there needs to be in place. They need to do what they have to do. But i'm not hearing anything about mental health and empower we going to deal with this influx. That's gonna come through. I was just telling a friend of mine. who's also susser. She just trusting. I said oh wait. We are going to be getting very busy. I'm just we are going to be seeing a lot of learning issues. Because i think this whole year my husband was even been saying. I think kids need to redo this whole year. i think this year was lost in terms of regression. Will the some of the schools have said that and it ain't parents get angry at that you know but but i think it might be the right thing to do. Certainly look for la unified school district. Thirty percent of the kids have not been in school thirty percent and for and you're talking about mental health issues. You're talking about you know in schools where there is somewhat of a luxury of parents that are involved in students that would come forward and teachers that Do have the capacity to pay attention to the mental health issues what is it crenshaw is sixty percent of the student body there is foster care. You think those kids are going to be okay after this. Did you see the child who was Had seen at the beginning of the pandemic he was sitting down in front of a taco bell with his ipad. Trying to get internet service on like does like this really trying hard or seven people in the home. They're living in a one bedroom trying to. I mean they're stone again aids so many different ramifications gary. What's coming on this one. I don't know if it's the same taco bell that you're speaking about. But there was a very infamous story in la county where the cops were called on kids who are trying to use the internet outside of taco bell or similar fast food. It's like everything seems stacked up against these kids. They can't and the states like california claim to be most concerned about those kids and yet in in induced policies that are disproportionately affecting the at risk population. Which is always the way it is. You gotta plan for that because they always get more of the burden. I don't i you know. Were were approaching ninety thousand overdose deaths for this year. Suicide is markedly increased particularly in young females depression. You know people self identify as depressions. What fourfold up. That's in adults right. Yes i i actually read in an article. I can remember right now where it's from Maybe able to pull that one up. His was in las vegas. Las vegas was one of the first schools to or as a as a state to open up. I think they had just wasn't nine suicides or something. Like a justice year there was a twin twelve year old Who hung himself due to cove isolation Another friend of mine had shared that she had known. A family lost two of their sons this year to suicide adolescent teens. Same topic right that isolation piece on kids who were a four point. Oh and now have over one hundred missing assignments. I mean this list goes on and on and on and it is. It is concerning. Because when i talked to these when i talk to these teams and i ask questions. I mean. Just this person in particular. Who's a friend of mine. She said it was fine to share. You know she said she called me and they live in a different state and she was like. I don't know what to do or she like my son used to be in soccer. Houston houston do great. I this is a different kid. I don't know what to do. And it's hundred twenty assignments. No one is helping us. No-one emailed us. I mean this late oblivion and parent. 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This proposal you know getting this legislation passed. It's long overdue on list. Teachers don't go back to work. I don't know how we're going to get them to work and take on new profession which is mental health services. I just worries me and again. We don't have enough social workers but enough school. Nurses live in most school districts talking about california southern california particularly school psychologists. You know the ones that i meet with him quite often they. It's like one school psychologist for five. Six schools are very right. That's right. They go there once every two weeks at school and they have you know they have eight hundred kids in need services desperately a acute services and you know you bring up an important point. Because it's something we were talking about is my gosh howard. Teachers going to receive this mental health training. And we did. We did actually a large survey asking teachers and we were so please to spoke up. Well that's good. They want the training. Good well let's go to. What what does that training your anxiety areas of expertise so is it going to be focused on anxiety. Depression or just identification of trouble referral. But what are you going to train them in. It's so it's we aren't going. It's going to be obviously another company. I think mental health first aid does a lot of these trainings. So we're just proposing the idea and then having an a research decline program to do this And it's gonna be like a three hour. We're gonna start. You know. we have to start slow. We can't just inundate them. I think you're you bring up an important point. They're already overloaded and overworked and scared. Yeah they get a little bit of that sacred eucation than they had before slowly slowly. I'm sure as the years progress lou. We can make it better but it will pretty much be educated. I have a big idea. How about we start to start to bring psycho education into the curriculum for the students and the teachers to get there because the teachers were those little as the students do how about we. What am i sounds is getting a master's in psychology. Why didn't teach me this. It's so it's so easy. It's so basic it's a fundamental. Why wasn't this at least in a high school something. It's kinda crazy that we don't teach it. Yes it's actually. It's called on here in in our area. We have programs called restorative justice in the public schools. Sounds kinda like have you seen these social emotional learning programs that are integrated as part of the school year but those are usually strangely. Mindfulness classes and stuff like that. As opposed to psycho education you know one of the basic psychiatric disorders. What is anxiety. what does it mean. How do you manage it. But i got it would help kids. Yes well normalizing. And i think because you know when they feel anxious they're embarrassed. They still shamed about their diagnosis. They just want to be normal like everyone else. I mean i think even puberty there's so much attention especially with girls on development that now you put on a a you know a mental health stressor on them that they know they're experiencing and they're feeling ashamed. They can't go up to the teacher and say hey. I'm struggling with is so it goes back to self esteem. Confidence in empowering kids in the classroom But teachers have to understand it. I mean i. I've seen this time and time again teachers. Not you know seen incredible teachers understanding it. But some who don't understand what. Adhd and looks like in the classroom. Understand okay thanks for letting me know but they still need to turn these all these things and are they still need to do. Abc but i think it's a passion empathy that's important but what would the what was the sort of focus of this. Trainings are gonna be identification and referral or identification and empathic into her. Both great question. it would be. It would look more like it would be some basic education like you said of segregation of the top things that we see in a classroom. Which are what we see. Hd we see anxiety. We see depression. We see isolated feelings of kids are withdrawn or not participating So ever you know just really basic kind of first aid mental health first aid Symptoms that a teacher can recognize. Now this is not about teachers calling out the kids in class. This is about them really learning how to communicate effectively with them and they're not treating not diagnosing absolutely not that's out of their scope but they can make appropriate referrals in an appropriate referral. Could even be. Hey you know what you know talking to the child or you know if there's a school counselor on campus really making it more collaborative versus shameful. Because i think a lot of teachers to feel they don't have that scope of practice in saying hi parent. Your kid is anxious. I think he or she needs to go. See the counselor. That can't happen. That can't happen So it has to come from a place of comfort. I think when kids feel comfortable with the teacher. I've seen it time and time again. They will open up when you get that relationship. Now your your student will be successful. I would hope just thinking i think. Then if that's what we're asking teachers to do we have to teach how you do that without being overwhelmed by it. You know what i mean. How to maintain boundaries and had to have their -peutic posture for lack of a better way of saying it. And i'm not sure that's a lot that's a whole thing right and a lot of teachers probably don't have great boundaries they're already caretakers and pleasers and stuff. Well let me tell you. I'll give you a perfect example over soon. I'm hearing seeing Let's say you know you have a kid who's in the classroom and he's you know he's being called now on zoom there. There's something called the kind of pain you on there. I don't really like that because it kind of puts the kid on the spot as part of that's why they have. Their cameras turned off sometimes. Teeter like no turn on your cameras. I can see that you're here and you could hear that you know they'll say i'm stuttering. I'm scared i feel like i'm put on the spot i'd like this well. Have you let your teacher know how you feel. No i'm scared. I don't wanna do that so this he's of. Im scared comes from somewhere. And why are you scared. Well because he or she will yell at me or here's make a lot of assumptions. I probably haven't happened so again. It comes back to i. I go back to the basics. Empathy compassion kindness now. I know we can't teach that that that comes from within right. Let's be realistic. But at least you know what if you're touching thousands of teachers and maybe only a thousand teachers out of a million. Take something from this. That's a success or even if it's to teachers who make a difference in the kid's life so you know the basic training is just to kind of an overview and then you survey. Hey guys like this yes. It was helpful. Are we seeing improvement. Yes a lot of these counselors one on in our districts. I can't in our district here. They open a huge counseling center and a lot of students. Don't walk in. And i say watch. You're going in we'll because it's embarrassing someone's gonna see me walk in there. I don't wanna walk. That's by the way it's been one of the great advantages of zoom it taken away. The embarrassment shame and all that stuff and lowered that threshold. That's good absolutely so but we have to. You know to to their to the kids point. When are we going to start treating mental health services the same as all medical services. The medical record the environment of care. The everything about it should be normalized to a doctor. Visit just like this business of. I can't tell you whether your son's under care with me or not though the bay hippo that's insanity and you talk about shaming and stigmatizing that is how you create that. Why one oh my god. You just took it out. A thousand percent agree with you more on that And if i tell you that has the time in sessions that the cords that happens in helping these kids feel confident and not feel shamed and gain that confidence within himself. I say you have to advocate for yourself. No one's gonna do it for you. Gotta step up but i think the mental health stigma will only come with drilling in like you suggested by co education if we normalize this in the schools just like they show videos about. Why is the brain did treated differently than the heart. or the stomach or the pancreas. Why no reason. Zero reason a weird anachronistic history. That's the reason. I have a story. You'll enjoy the story. I think i've told them this podcast before gary. I think i've told you told me. If i don't know this story so i i got very depressed in college and started having panic attacks. I the panic. Attacks were severe enough. That i wasn't sure whether it was medical or psychiatric. Didn't quite sure what was going on but had a little bit enough insight to go. I go to the mental health services which at my college. My college was in the belfry. It was in the clock tower. Target the the the bats were in the belfry you you actually had to go. Climb into the clock tower to get to the mental health services which i found even as a nineteen year old. Unbelievably hysterical and ironic. I went and they went. Oh yeah panic attack your severe. So let's go down to the medical services which were completely other side of the campus and make sure there's not a medical problem. You know all the this is always a good story for everybody because don't assume psychiatric symptoms or purely psychiatric can be medical contributing medical problems or causative or just all can be medical. You've got to get that ruled out. I and maybe we can get you with the the only anti anxiety medication at that time. In one thousand nine hundred seventy seven. I guess it was was valley. So maybe the doctor gave you some valium you can get. You can actually go to sleep. So i go down there. And of course the the There's no such thing as adolescent health services at that point does that disciplined did not exist and the doctor for the campus was a retired physician. That sort of dedicated some retirement time down on health services and sit on the sideline during football games and things like that and this is the level of care that was going on for young people at the time and he looked at me and went. He literally went. You get your shit together. Take long walks in the woods. What's wrong with was disdainful dismissive and because the psychologist says you get up. All right the valium. You've gotta get it together. And i was like i would happily i would. I would do is walk in the woods and i'd be better home my god in but i couldn't get out of bed and so it actually that experience i think was one of the reasons. I got interested in mental health and got interested in adolescent health earlier in my career. Because i didn't want anybody else to go through that. And i realized that lessons have sort of a unique set of needs that no one was paying attention to it. They were either going to the pediatrician. Who who were busy with babies and did not have time for the adolescents. Or guys like this. Who had no fucking idea what he was doing. It stayed with me to stay but the reside tell us. Anxiety is one of your areas of interest and expertise so think about how far we've come since those days. I tell you something that i still here. I still here that no stories like that eating dismissive and walk take walks in the woods. You'll get over this. Well the parents but i understand with parents. Because because that's denial. They don't want their kid to be sick. I get that. And so i and they may not have psycho education. 'cause nobody does and this. These are medical providers for christ's sake doing that. I had heard a medical provider. No but i do hear it. You know a lot of kids will complain of hearing that from parents or you know. And i think a lot of times what you said. I think it's not that they don't wanna accept it. It's it's denial and lack of education and understanding what it is. Oh everyone's anxious. When i was a kid when i was of course which is true which is true. And there's there's a episode there's a threshold whereby it is clinically relevant. So let's let's back away from kids for seconds per se talk anxiety more generally. How did you get interested anxiety. What what's your favorite way of constructing understanding of what he is and treatments. So you know. I was trained at children's and children's hospital. And i've been in practice has been now fifteen years now and i do one of the primary areas for me that struck me an anxiety was just a call for me was when i saw at the time just very similar stories is how kids did not feel heard or didn't feel listen to and i felt it was so basic because when i would talk about anxiety just even before i training to me. Zayed's ito it's important. I think it's that rush feel that we all need to have. We don't dismiss how the importance of anxiety how it gets us to do things and move forward. But i explained to be below often when that anxiety because or intense where you can't function and it's like the buzzing d story that i have in my book when you feel like these buzzing bees just all over and they kind of take take over your brain and you just can't function anymore because you get so immersed into that thought or that anxious feeling. That's when it becomes problematic. And when i noticed that all it took honestly is pure active listening and kids. You know when. I was working with kids. Children's it was really just basic. Things is getting them through a surgery. Talking them through you would see kids maybe panicking or fearful of going into a surgery or panicking about a diagnosis. What would happen. I mean it's a scary thing to see and you know it was so beautiful just to see you know the through play and how you could see the exiled just lawrence offer just sitting with them. I can't tell you how many times would just be sitting there with the child and they were just be panicking. This is at the beginning of my training. Where i was like imagine i i. I felt panicky at a moment is how are we going to calm this child but really it was just an innate desire. I don't wanna say was just one thing in particular. But the one thing that i just remember. Is you know working there. And just experiencing that. And knowing that i could help and i have a case where i could see. You know the child just feeling so much better. And then i did my training at glen roberts. Child study center under dr roberts. I've heard of him. He wrote the famous guy. Who did the roberts perception test. I got trained in psychological assessments as well and He was really big city. And you know just the passion just continued developing and i just fell into it. Yeah i think. I'm hearing you correct me if i'm not misrepresenting. This or getting inaccurately but that the fundamental intervention is A second brain to skulls relating in such a way as the symptomatic brain develops the capacity for affect regulation with that. Be about right i to me. That is one of the fundamental problems of our time. Which is that. We don't develop the capacity to be an a frame of closeness with other people that's that's threatening traumatising or had enough of it or i'm fearful of band if you get there. And so the frame in which the human brain develops the capacity for affect regulation has been marginalized or or blown. Just completely disrupted that is. That's where all my patients are from. The people that developed drug addiction are all from there all this regulated and they're primarily just regulated because they were traumatized and once they were traumatized they exit the frame of closeness. And empathic atonement that allows for affect regulation develop. And i see it. That's my patients but they're everywhere that's a problem. It seems to me to the point where. I'm not sure parents could. Because they didn't get enough of it that they were even know how to do. It had a really attuned adequately for a long enough period of time for a brain to develop. And what about the as. You're talking about this. Something else can find mine. were devices. This generation janis ian prior to that. Is the impulse the lack of impulse control city that the parents are substituting the actual atonement for the plastic the device in instead of the tomb and i guess my generation. We put them in front of the tv. That was our version of that then the now the version is the screen. So there is no you know half the time when you talk to a kid who or a teen or even an adult. Who's going through a panic attack or who's experiencing high levels of anxiety in that moment You know if you ask most of the time they'll say i don't want you to touch me. I don't want to touch. You could just just sit there next to me. I just want your bodily presence And what it goes back to what you were saying is just having that physical presence there so that they don't feel abandoned they don't feel alone and also giving them control because anxiety is all about control so often tell parents or even adults at that moment. You know you have to have a plan in place on you know who you feel you wanna reach out to your what you wanna do so that the panic doesn't intensify there was. There's another layer for me in terms of resolving the anxiety that you're talking about managing anxiety no but i'm i was interested in resolving it for myself and for me i had to get better connected to my primary emotional landscape it. It's as though the sort of week connection between primary emotions and second order. Representations in my mind was not there and so emotions were threatening and distant and unregulated and that was for me the source of my anxiety. I would say is that common you much of that i like. I say the disconnect. Because it's exactly what it feels like even when you go back to kid and drying or even when adults do joins. it's amazing. how. I i often teach with In my practice which is more focused is really helping them. Identify the emotion. Well guess what ninety percent of the time. I'm not kidding. They cannot identify an emotion. What's an emotion. I'm feeling you must. You must have had good pair tape. Because when i started therapy. That was my challenge. I'd have to start every session with. Okay okay okay. i'm feeling and for a year. i could almost do nothing. I could just go one of my feeling. I'm anxious that's about it. And then feelings started coming fourth in the safety of the frame the frame. That's the dichotomy you're describing secondary so it's not learning how to express a so. What do we do for new parents coming in right. Talk about emotions so so important. What our emotions parents ask. Well ask them how they're doing. Don't just say okay if the kid says on fine i wanna talk right now. Okay i'll come back and check in with you later when i say emotions i haven't exercised Practice with all. I see all ages right so even with my adults. They love this exercise so say grab a stint here. Have a poser. Grab a posted. A bunch of posters. Put a box with a pen. And there's stress sheet. I use in a house all various forms of emotions. It says frustrated. I'm feeling overwhelmed. Unfeeling then he goes into physical symptoms etc. And as a every night. I go to batter whenever you want to do it because if i tell them to do it at a certain time there most likely not going to do it. So it's all about giving them control so for you go to bed or in the morning or whenever you want us that sheet of paper in a jot down emotion you feel right down on the posted a frustrated in why feel frustrated crumpled up cut in the box by the time we meet the next time. Guess how many papers will be in that box most of the time. I can't guess sometimes we'll have fifty sometimes none. Sometimes i always share that. What i'm trying to do is exactly what you're saying is bridging the primary and secondary that onset the notion and bringing it together so that they learn because they're not being taught how to share will or identify them and i think that's the more challenging part because once you can identify them it's comes easier to share it and let's let's keep going with the psycho educational long as we both think that's important Let's said do we differentiate because words get thrown around all. Make sure there's no confusion about this feelings from emotions. We differentiate those to stay things or or should we just call them both sets with the same. Everybody you've heard me talk to dr noel. Read board certified family medicine physician and consulting physician for cell tree and sell your nutrition. There's all stuff. 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You could you can easily call them the same thing because the emotions even if it's disdain. Let's say disgust discussed really is coming out of our body. It's a feeling you know what i mean even though it gets expressed it. It's it's a feeling so. Yeah that's So interesting to me. And i think this country has marginalized feelings especially because we've marginalized relationships in the name of success and work and you know the stuff. We value as americans relationships became a second consideration. Maybe third or fourth even even you you mentioned that and even when you look companies where just in general and you know often. Sometimes i'll i'll go in and we'll do less than just as some brief seminars or whatever it is in the first thing i star with is communication at the top of leadership right. So how do you. How are you communicating with the people around you and again you go back to your training. These kiddos or these kids are the future retreating their the future leaders in reality But it all starts at the top of the times you know. Executive is terrible. Saying while i was never taught how to communicate emotion right so they then they're not able to lean effectively how to create change. Then you notice decrease activity give an example of of that. Give me the mic. That real from. I quite get it like what emotion anger or or inspiration. What passive aggressive behavior splitting splitting eight. Your employees didn't complete this critically. Boss gets really upset. It doesn't expect subside. And so now you have this ongoing Spinning for the employees and and then it expresses itself from from the other end as aggression and being upset so again it goes back to the primal emotions and expressing how we feel how we can make things better so i. I am seeing an improvement. I think that's what we have to really focus on with this generation more than ever as they are exposed to devices and they just lose contact connection. Yes about the connection issue. Which which is people don't understand that a lot of communication between humans is non conscious bodily based you know. I mean there's a lot of stuff going on we're aware of speaking of which It was worried at the beginning of this pandemic zoom would be completely inadequate because of that but it turned out not to be like we've already discussed lowered the threshold for admission to go and there was a lot of good came out of it. But you tell me your experience. My experience was that it didn't sustain like it can only go so far and then people it doesn't have the same stickiness of in the flesh meetings and after about six months people started drifting out. You tell me yes i. I'm definitely seeing that. I'm actually seeing a lot of brunette right now. Infants people are tired. I say this that every session. I know this is all. I can person and you feel it. There's something about being in person. You have that connection. I'm doing assessments in person. And i am seeing that very differently than being known zoom and People say that they're like wow. This feels so great and you see that in an instant connection It's very hard to retain I think clients online. It's hard to week. I think you have to be very animated. You have to be loud and you're doing. Cbt which is sort of lends itself at least for a while to that but but like all the research shows ultimately. It's empathic atonement. That is determining the success of the therapeutics no matter what therapeutics are but but cb does kind of lend itself to zoom for awhile east. Yes i've i've been. I've been fortunate. I wanted to say That it's been working out for me. The frankie on the worry. Bees was was rule. Literally born out of zoom. I don't know how else to save. Because i started with these little illustrations and ideas just to connect them. Because i knew that. If i don't use tangible paper and writing and getting them engaged like you wouldn't class because you know they'll go on their phone or connect it. It's hard to say even focused here. It's hard it's not easy so I think again depending on what type of again therapy technique you are using It certainly challenging and itself and That's another question. When are psychologists psychiatrists are going to feel comfortable going back in person without a mask. Right and this is something. I'm even pondering our air clients going to feel patients comfortable that you're vaccinated and can you wear a mask all day long is different than position. I feel working in the are all day because we're just running around us. We're sitting down. We're talking for hours and hours on no not only that part of the sub-conscious beneath conscious communications or really on the face. Yeah with with the is the tiny muscles in the face. Or what communicates so much to our right brain i again. I was acutely aware that has a patient. I was aware of it as a practitioner that that that is a ton of what goes on. Yes yeah and that's going to be really interesting to see how old's my entire floor are psychologists. No one's there johnson found. She just came out today. I think it said that he thinks it will protect. The vaccine will protect against transmission. So we can get a little more of that out there. I think I think maybe we'll get to where we need to be. Because i don't know of any other infectious disease on earth that you can transmit after you've been vaccinated without being infected by it so it's like come on now so you know. This was the exceptionalism of this illnesses. I guess you know the the serious widespread nature of it makes us have to be certain on everything we proclaim but okay so anyway look. It's been a pleasure. I'm your the emotion. I'm feeling right now is frustration. Because i just went right back to all my god school's school closure the damn overwhelmed and frustrated when i think about the impact of all this. I think we look back on this pandemic. the most serious misadventure of the entire pandemic will have been school closures particularly graham school closures. And and then if you wanna if you to say well. They didn't know and they had to do something okay. Then why the delay in the reopening. That's the that's the most serious egregious misadventure in this entire thing adding insult to injury in these these kids. And maybe you know maybe some much like my own misadventure at my college you know whereas treated like shit by the medical system. Maybe this will result in some sort of inspiration by this population. The you know the young people will come forward with some new way of fighting bureaucratic nonsense or being creative or who knows maybe something good can come out of it but not if we don't pay attention to the mental health because a lot of people are going to get seriously hurt national folk. We start with the teachers. I started the teachers and trickle down in the class. I've been talking about this for years. Now are you need to have a a Just a stress reliever class e ed incorporated in the curriculum For kids just to learn about what stresses in and go through like you said. We got up psycho education as part of the curriculum for schools. I mean we put sex education there. Why can't we put mental health education. For god's sakes we've done that and we've made that have to do that. I'm not so sure that was as important as what we're talking about. Which is just basically how your brain works just basic basic health normalizing and above like you side and getting rid of that chain like you felt. You felt shame by that. I i was more confused than sham. Not super shame. Well i guess. I have a fair bit of that but i'm not ashamed about. I am super clear that my brain and my big toe are just body parts. You know. I've never had any issue having mental health issues. I don't you know talk about them as freely as anything else. I don't understand hiding anything about what you're your human experiences of body brain emotions whatever. It might be relationships. So i'm happy to talk about my kobe experience. I'm also happy to talk about my my anxiety disorder and depression and mosey would've would side suffering from what's that i love that and i think that's so important. This is what you know. This is what we need to do this. Is you know. My daughter has anxiety and talk about it. Shows tells me share share my story And you know it's important. Because i think you know. Even from her perspective. She feels she feels a lot of the times. I'm embarrassed or no one understands me and there's so many cans that feel that way And you know. And i and i think it comes back to us as parents and educators and normalizing that it's okay it's all right we're gonna work through it. Don't worry we're gonna figure this out together That's all year. And even as adults like i can see going through this right now. I'll check back in violation right there. So yeah that's awesome that you're i think that's important. It starts with people like yourself and providers just being transparent about regatta. Change the laws around the medical record and stuff. The the psychiatric medical records were treated like. You know it's like no no no. It's a medical record period like all medical records. Let me ask you spend most your life here in southern california. Did you grow up here now. Actually grow and france. Oh interesting because the word important came out of your mouth in non southern california way thought something different. Yes we're up in france I went from kindergarten twelfth grade in a french school and came here when i was nineteen. We're in france monaco. Interesting are your parents from monaco. Are they rich. Es montegazza. There originally romanian. And but my dad was a physician retired now to travel a lot with his job. Mom as well. So that's where. Ron is here to southern california and Caribbean bom bompeh. But the romanians are very bright. There's toop this Nationalities that i've noticed a lot of intellectual horsepower. Hungarian and romanian lots of intellectual horseback huge huge horsepower. Genetically for whatever reason you you know what. I'm talking about right engineers. I say you know you can go to find out. The most are engineers or a lot of horsepower. I it's anyway in the hungarians. It's mathematics sort of stuff so okay. 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PODCAST: Regine Sawyer on WiNC and Being a Kickstarter Artist in Residence

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PODCAST: Regine Sawyer on WiNC and Being a Kickstarter Artist in Residence

"What are the benefits of doing one at a time as opposed to hey? I'M GONNA kick start all three books or something. Mark can't take it everyone Karema and this is the blur girl podcast on this episode. I sit down with regime Sawyer. The founder of luck it down productions women comics New York international and the upcoming win con which is in his third year plus Dark Phoenix Phoenix happened Black Mirror broke. Everyone's brain andy threes here and apple has dropped the most expensive cheese grader in the history of ever so stay tuned because I'll be talking about all of that but first. Let's pay some bills if you've been following me for any length of time and you know I stay busy and it's really hard for me to get in all the reading that I wouldn't do so that's why I'm a huge fan of audio books from audible and if you use my special code audible audible child dot com slash the blurred girl you can get a free subscription. Now I listen to them. What I'm claiming the house traveling there especially great for passing the time on those long lines at the airport now currently I'm listening to a Kata which for three reasons one one? I'm a fan of Nettie fours writing <hes> she writes incredible science fiction featuring African women to it's been dubbed the Nigerian Harry Potter and three because it's heated Jackie who was just on the show recently is narrating radiant. Now what I love about audio books like this is that kind of light scripted podcast they are like listening to old time radio programs and I love that but don't take my word for it starts. You're on commitment free thirty day trial at audible the child dot com slash the blur girl you can choose from one audiobook and to audible originals you can hear anywhere else also any credits that you don't use totally rollover to the next month so start your thirty day free trials today by going to off trial dot com slash the girl now back to the show so start with some news dark phoenix dropped <hes> I saw it actually last week and and let's just say fans were underwhelmed. I was to to be honest. I mean I. I'm going to get a little bit spoiler here. So if you don't WanNA listen skip ahead in terms of the movie itself the effects were pretty good. Honestly SANSA did really well. We all kind of new Raven was gonNA catch it because Jennifer Lawrence has been complaining about the character for a couple of years now and I didn't hate the film like a lot of fans did but it was definitely not wasn't Beckmann x-men film. I duNNo. I said that online recently and somebody asked me well. What does an X.? Men Film look like and my answer was actually. I'll let you know when I see one that being said I really did enjoy the deadpool films yes. He is an accident and in fact you can listen to me talk all about about deadpool over at sci-fi wire where they have series called days of marvel where we talk about everything going on in the I._C._U.. And <hes> I got to host the Deadpool podcast. It was part of their twelve days of X.. Men Series so check that out the other movie I uh-huh mostly enjoyed in the X.. Men Universe has were is Logan. It was extremely well executed but I can't say it was my favorite because they felt the need to decimate an entire black family to do it but that commentary is clearly for another podcast moving onto black mirror basically season five dropped episode episode one Anthony Mackie who you know as Falcon from the adventure series of Duma team the second who's you saw is black Manta from aquaman and in us and Nicole Bahari our beloved abby meals from sleepy hollow I for one. I'm really excited to see Bahari back acting again. They all star in striking vipers which is the very first episode this shows created by Charlie Booker Executive Producer Annabel Jones and sticking to this formula that works this outer limits slash twilight zone level writing now what's funny is I'm not going to spoil it but I was lucky enough to watch the first episode of striking taking bikers with a crowd when strong black lead. That's Netflix target market brand contacted me I for screening. It was lovely actually now. I won't spoil it for you but when I tell you that at the end of this screening how uncomfortable most of the straight black men in the audience were was hilarious. I don't know why they were uncomfortable. It's just it's just funny so it definitely look. It's probably month happy pride. Tell you listeners Q.. One of the things that I really like about this episode is that it takes two male action even say to male actors as all the leads who appear to be very straight hetero normative and basically through technology give all of their relationship a bit of a twist and I for one am happy to see it. I'm happy to see it because it is interesting. When mainstream audiences specifically mainstream black audiences get to see another side of the black community? We don't only to see so that's all I'm GONNA say but for those use on my little meam you might WanNa come on this when you see it but it's very strange when I realized that Manta Ah is Mantis or Mantis is Mansa. I should say so go watch it and that that little comment will make sense now. Let's get into a little bit last week as part of their worldwide developer conference or w W._D._C. Three Apple announced that it is finally giving us a new desktop operating system and if you haven't seen yet this thing looks like a cross between a a laundry basket and cheese greater or while the size of do anyway. It's a big deal because the last model affectionately known as the tin can from a little round black thing it came out in two thousand thirteen which in computer years is like one hundred fifty years ago Mac admitted it was faulty and that they had to Redo it and took their time doing so <hes> they pushed I max and powerbook's with buttons and strips that don't make any sense on them even mag minis. I believe we're we're selling really well until they got themselves together. Anyhow this new Mac Book Pro Oh tower boosts the new Catalina I guess they ran out of landscape names and according to the verse Dot Com supports an Intel Zeon processor up to twenty eight cores and after one point five hundred terabytes are bites memory. You can really expand this thing. They're six lots. Memory expansion eight P._C._S. lots three thunderbolt ports. Oh look to U._S._B.. In Two U._S._B.. Ports so yeah. We're not just tethered to thunderbolt anymore. There's a lot going on graphics department as well <hes> they included modules supports A._M._d.. Raytheon profile the X. or the radium pro Vega to and can be it can also be configured to add up to two Vega twos all this new you processing card amperage. It's up to three streams AK video or twelve streams of four K. which is pretty intense for all youtuber out there to top off customization. You can even add wheels to the MAC prochell. Shelf or added Portability who's carrying this thing. The base price for this little monster is basically six six large six thousand dollars and that's just for the tower the retina display that they're promoting to go with it is another five five thousand dollars plus the stand for it is another g the stand so apparently you have to sell. I don't know a person to buy this thing. I think the bigger news the rest of us that might not be buying the tower is that they're ditching itunes now. I talked a little bit about this in the newsletter which you should be getting if you're not a put a link in the show notes so you can sign up but anyway I tunes is dead but Catalina Will Support Music Apple T._V. and podcasts which I hope they keep for obvious reasons in terms of all your old music. You'RE NOT GONNA lose it it all literally we'll just switch from the I._T._N.'s Ab over to music. I'm sure they'll be some type of my you know migrating APP that will have to use in getting anything's off your phone and back on computer to bring it over but everything will exist in in music. Yes even the stuff that you ripped and that's you stole now. Let me know what you think about Apple's new tech in the comments okay now now before we take another break. I just wanted to tell you a little bit more about today's Guests Regina L. Sawyer is the owner writer and publisher at Lucca down productions a cutting edge small press comic book company she publishes books such as the rippers Bers I switch eating vampires and the Children's book will of the weeping weeping willow. She's also the coordinator and founder of the women in comics collective international an organization that focuses on a highlighting the merit and craft work of women working in the Comic Book Industry and from that she's created wink con an annual convention the help support women creators in the Comic Book Space. She's also a recovering chef like she used to be a pastry shops. which is why whenever ever in San Diego Comic Con I always go to booth because she's always got like little cakes because cake and she's really good but in the spring regime was named a kickstarter artist in residence and I took a little trip over kickstarter starter offices here in Brooklyn New York to see basically what that means and also I was just nosy? I want to see what's a kick to kick starter offices like so stick around because after this break I'm going to be talking to her about win con kickstarter and what it means to be an artist in resonance you run a hosted website on wordpress or is your site really slow. Have you gotten hacked in the past and just didn't know what to do. Well if so you need site ground now my Amazon background affiliate. I'm also a customer in fact I switched the blur girl dot com over to them and never looked back in fact. I've put other people onto them for two reasons for liability and customer service. You can try it yourself at site ground dot com slash go slash the blur girl. That's dot com slash go slash the blur girl now unlike some other hosting sites that have a really great affiliate program and seemed to be really popular many of them don't have customer service has great customer service. They don't talk like an idiot. If you can't find something to help you work through it. They have a really easy control panel. Inside ground is really the truth. You can start hosting your site today for as low as three ninety five a month you want to store blog anything really and they can even move your whole existing site over four you from another posting service and you don't have to worry about a bunch of code and stuff so if you've been blogging running a website for awhile now it's time to take your site and it security seriously. I've move up to cite ground sign up today at sites ground DOT com. That's S. I.. T. E. G. R. O. U.. N. D. dot com slash the blurred the girl. I feel like I talked to you because I did but also you were just recently on radical Geeks so yeah. It's there's no Margaritas here. Guys are next time we are hanging out in this really cool space as the kickstarter space basically in Williamsburg Brooklyn Yeah and you are a kickstarter residence. Yes I am crater resident so I I know you already. Have I know that you have locked down productions. I know that you have women Comics Collective New York International Wink and you have winked con. Yes is coming up more and talk about all this stuff but I'm very curious as she because if if you guys have seen my instagram you'll have seen like this really cool space that I've got to walk through <hes>. It's more than a co working spaces a theater. There's all kinds of things here that are just literally hidden away in in Brooklyn. How did the whole kickstarter in residence think about how did you how'd you get this Gig? I saw posting on twitter. They were posting for people to apply to the creators and residents program and so I saw it and just on a whim I applied to it and I got it. I got an email saying hey a. You've gotten this one opportunity. You're going to be with US for three months. Yeah that's roughly. I know about that Camilla saying. I don't remember her title but I do know she. She is the contact lead for comics comics. Got It for comics creators. I just know she a wealth of knowledge. If you're trying to kick start a comic and from the inside which is amazing and she was the one that was tweeting it. Oh Wow and she's absolutely amazing. She's also a member women in Comics Collective International Wink and she's been absolutely phenomenal. I think she's been at the job for about a year. Got It yeah. I think when I when I met her was at a wink dinner yet yeah this is all because of you. Here's so what have you what is the artisan resident space being able to do for you. I mean I freelance also like I'm used to working home or cafes or whatever but what makes being in this space it special. It's gotten me to concentrate on myself and my work because I have not been doing that. <hes> in that is part of self care guys you know l.. Concentrate on your projects at a certain point <hes> whenever whenever you can't outside of your other work so being kickstarter has allowed to really buckle down look at the comic that I'm looking to put out in the coming year and seeing how I want the kickstarter campaign a painting go <hes> what words one I wanNa have besides the comic <hes> the process in which that happens <hes> also we do have workshops. They have workshops for us based upon what what are questions are our needs are like fulfillment. How do you fulfil kickstarter? <hes> what are the best ways to do that. <hes> if you do happen to get stretch goals or you get an opportunity to have a stretch goal how how does how does that work. What should you offer what should not offer so it's been a wonderful process and also your with other people who are doing the process with you so you don't feel alone? Get you interesting. I've been really contemplating joining a workspace I do you think that when I am able to focus on just my stuff I'm more productive in a short amount of time so I'm GonNa look into this kickstarter thing should that's amazing and you're right self-care Israel honey. Oh God now. What are some of the projects that you're working right now? While I'm currently working on <hes> volume one of the rippers <hes> and that would be the first three books compiled into one book so I'm working on that and I had a I've been having a huge journey with it because I had files that were locked onto our computer and I couldn't get it all down to the Geek squad to save me and that's about a month so you had an artist issue to your the artists while had to get an artist for eating vampires okay so my first priority is on the rippers volume one and I kinda like chronicled my journey with that so people will see pictures of that probably honking on kickstarter Oh cool my ex of all the aches and pains and the loves the choice love <hes> and struggles room then Lord Willing after that one is is has made its goals and fulfilled. I'll also do eating vampires and just like I said. An artist is working on that book and I think that's being that's really really tremendous and I'm looking forward to that as well but I'm taking this one campaign at a time. What are the benefits of doing one at a time as opposed to hey? I'm GONNA kickstarter like kickstart all three books or something Mahara take it. Oh I can't take Jesus. I mean really I mean for me I want. I just want to have my soul concentration on one product. I don't WanNa be too scattered. I'm already a little bit you nervous as as it is with the with the process like oh goddess my kickstarter my first one and there's so many horror stories and I don't want to be one of those are going to be bad. You'RE GONNA make all of your money in the first three days. I'm predicting this. Yes yes thank you so I really just want to concentrate on one thing and then go to the next but even though I'm saying that I am sort of doing them simultaneously just so that everybody's every time yeah just so that it's a smooth process. It was a smooth it as it can be. I should say I think the biggest thing that I've noticed in kick starters that tend to look when you see people getting dragged all over the place for them <hes> <hes> it's not just not delivering its you have to know your audience and educate your audience as to how the platform works yes because I know there's a lot of people who were like. Oh I didn't get my comic who didn't realize that they had to fill out a survey at the end of the Yes when the comic came do they fill out a survey and then go back and if they didn't they they're they're stuff wouldn't be released. They wouldn't get a comic and I know there's a few comics that miss out on because I was like what email did I use. I remember that I mean I drag nobody but does I've realized that there's a lot of education and I'm just thinking of this. Because I know a few people who've used it who've tried to get family members older family members or or people who are not don't understand crowdfunding at all like. Can I just give you the money. What does this go online survey? You know like sometimes you have to explain it and that's that's the within that I've seen when people don't stay in contact yeah Kate what they're backers and then don't tell them like how they're going to get their products exactly and so I had mentioned about the workshops and one of the workshops that we adwa fulfillment and we talk about what do we do if no one is answering their surveys and we had all this information about okay the percentage of people that do you know what you have to do. In order to get those other numbers to pan now how you follow up and this people will just won't answer you know but there are other ways that that can be done so that people do get their product <hes> some similar my colleagues what they're doing with their kickstarter their comics they'll there're fulfilling them onsite so they're out of convention. That's smart added convention. They'll let you know like hey. I have your books. If you WANNA come pick up. Let me know I have them right here. That's really smart because then you taking the whole we'll email thing out of it exactly exactly saved you want shipping to also wished that have to talk about this. I wish there was another form of communication besides email if there was like hey put your instagram information here. I we just slide and somebody's d._M._Z.. Go Hey come get yourself. I mean those are good suggestion. You know and kickstarter will be is ten years and the are doing new things and they're they're expanding their their brand and I know there'd be interested in all types of feedback so they can grow become better though that's something that they encouraged within the Craig's resume interested in one of these offices trade that if I get one of these offices now <hes> in in terms of the work itself and Wink you've got another convention coming up. We'll win. CON will be a June thirtieth. Okay so you get every month. You got something guys and also we have our second annual drink drawn poll which also also be interesting as still can't get to the poll part but I wanted to up our it'll be fun. It'll be fun and that'll be in June as well and that's the week before the week of of the convention it'll be the it'll probably be June fourteenth that tentative date okay but it more than likely will be June fourteenth and that is a Friday and win. Con is not going to be at elaborate in the bronx anymore. No where where we now okay so we were in Brooklyn last year <hes> having a lot of construction on so we had to move so we'll be at the Queen's museum so you just hitting all I remember Bronx before then it was Brooklyn and now we're going to okay. That's Hilarious so and still that day yes okay and isn't wait. That's what it was. It's the same day as pride yes. I knew there was something about the debt is as we see them. They only have their large events on a Sunday so this is one of the few days that they had available for us and they also have <hes> <hes> <hes> Aladdin Science Fiction Art Exhibit and they wanted to have a commemorating event for that as well so they thought this would be a good marriage so oh not only will be will we be highlighting that exhibition we also will have a pride fest for those who choose to wow shoes to join us and we're going to have a photo shoot under the unisphere and just relax and we will have content <hes> catering to wink pride and I'm looking forward to that as well as our regular programming. So why don't you dropping your kickstarter July probably yeah how did you really isn't thinking no because I'm thinking you're busy. It's funny. The wind caught out of the way I just assumed if it was I would be doing this. July and August is getting close to New York calm. So when would you do your mood you start to kickstart tentatively July first okay a good way advertise. It is at San Diego around that same time we probably will be. We will be having like a wink compost party. Of course you were so so okay so my question is. When do you sleep at night? Ah I do you know I have you. Parse out your day like how do you how do you schedule. Don't even want to know because I also work three regular jobs out so my stuff <hes>. So the way I do it is I really carefully craft my day and I try to make sure that I at least have one day off during the week but you're better than me but you know what I ended up working from home when it happens or here or here <hes> that's how I do it. I also have made plans to beat at the SPA at least once a month. Okay that that I definitely needs to practice once once a month at the very least a spot in the in the city in Manhattan and there's one in Queens where all go. I'm like one day during the month somebody Agassi me. Even hang on see me or queens is going to amy. Let's see so I at least do that but yes. I need a real vacation. I need to be on the beach with a drink in my Dan Wi fi fi no nothing just me for the way but I didn't realize the three jobs on top of it. My goodness okay and is is one of those copywriting. Are you still doing that on the aside occasionally if someone reaches out but I'm teaching graph Rafic novel creation to middle schoolers high school so that yes so it's still in the wheelhouse yeah. It's still in the same creative part of your not like you're teaching like applied sciences something no yeah so. That's what I'm usually what my days are filled with. Wow so you go from those children to the children on Social Media Yeah Ah go on on that for days so how I mean for the person out there who's trying to be you to try to basically have their own convention and right there on comic books and run run their two three fifty seven companies. What do you suggest <hes> get a good support system? Be Around people that really love and care about you. <hes> yes self-care again is a must muss find a spa day fine crocheter knitting do something at least one day out of the week where you can just relax and shall and recharge so you can go back into the world and give <hes> and do which glove if what you're doing really the socks all it does eat away at your spirit. That's that's all it. Does I mean I love what I do so that helps to to to boost me but again anytime to charge and be at peace so I would suggest that you just make time for work and play try to get imbalanced as much as you can okay and where can we get all of these comics or is there a place that we can support you so you don't have to work fifty eleven dabs Patriot on Y'all okay on good my Patriot on www dot com slash I think is Regina el Sawy all you need to memorize the show no since y'all could support and and we were talking talk about this briefly before before we started recording but I'm considering doing Patriot on and what for like a Newbie like me what is what is some advice you would give to somebody who's in this started dipping their toe into this Patriot on world. Just make sure you have some some type of monthly content to send out to your to your patrons. I mean I'm I'm kind of super bad at it. I'm kinda sweet bad. 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Dermatologic Training and Practice in Canada: An In-Depth Review

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29:35 min | 11 months ago

Dermatologic Training and Practice in Canada: An In-Depth Review

"This podcast is supported by an educational grant by Bausch health made available through the CD a corporate support. program. We definitely Caesar's that increase need and demand for dermatologist. One of the main reasons is aging population. We see a higher incidence of skin disease and also skin cancer but also there's a demand for dermatologist to address not just medical issues but healthy skin concerns and cosmetic ascetic requests. That was Dr Gene McCarthy our guest today on JC Mess Author Interviews Dr Laura Ski is an Assistant Professor of medicine and the Chief of the section of dermatology the coming school of Medicine. At the University of Calgary. She also served the chair of the specialty, committee and Dermatology for the Royal College of his ascension surgeons, of Canada, and it's this work that we're going to be speaking to her about today Dr Barsky was taxed by the World College to form a group, the dermatology working group to lead a very comprehensive and objective analysis, the current state of dermatology practice and training patterns and Canada this work was. Highlighted in the JC mass I in May of two thousand, nineteen with historic review and in May of twenty twenty with the recommendations is this work that we're going to bring a for you here today on our podcast I. Hope you enjoy it well, thanks regime for joining me today. To discuss these articles we really have to discuss the first was published in May of twenty, nine, thousand, nine, th. The second in our May June twenty twenty issue both to do with the dermatological training and practice in Canada I as Stoorikhel review and the second was basically the recommendations that that fell off that that historical review article. So first off, how did this get going what? What, what sort of put you in a place where you wanted to do this very intense and very thorough review of our specialty in. Canada. Well, thank you for inviting me to talk about these important articles I think that the Royal College recognize that the specialty of dermatology was constantly trying to change to face the medical needs of society. Yet, we have seen significant changes inter mythology. We're seeing changes in population needs changes in technology. It's an emergence of novel Therapeutics, and so the Royal College which is basically in charge of defining and regulating. The various medical disciplines in Canada wanted to make sure that we were on track. And they wanted to make sure that we were really meeting the societal needs and the needs of the medical profession. Well we'll get to the recommendations after we sort of look at this doral bits and when I look at the. Bits is really a snapshot. Of what Canadian Dermatology Tala Gist in particular look like I mean, we had a hugh, we're an older group I mean if it will figure two in the two, thousand, nineteen paper shows that that over seventy percent of the license practicing practicing dermatologists in our country are over forty five years of age. And to match that, it seems we've increased the resident population two and a half times over the since two thousand seven are we going to be able to serve the population? So I think that was one of the main issues that came up was are we able to adequately serve both the adult and the pediatric population and so as part of the indepth review? The Royal College. Task Force and it's called the dermatology working group and the D. WGC was tasked with leading a comprehensive and objective analysis of the current state of dermatology practice in training patterns in Canada and then the D. Wg was then supposed to develop some strategic recommendations for for the Royal College. So they looked at three different areas they looked at a jurisdictional. Analysis, which compared the programs. In Canada to other programs they looked at a landscape overview and a literature review kind of trying to understand some of these numbers. So we were able to collect a lot of information on issues such as workforce population needs, accessibility, wait times, and that hope is then that we can effectively prepare dermatologists training programs for the next century. The workforce was really interesting I mean if you look at the number of the the male to female ratio, I was stunned actually the from going from a predominantly male. Sub Specialty if you our specialty to equal male theme I, think we've accomplished a lot in a very short period of time. We, sure have I mean I think a number of issues came up with regards to work force we had identified that we have lots of new referrals different types of referrals people have differing practice patterns We looked at geographical distribution gender parity like you mentioned people who are working more part time to maintain a work life balance and also addressing the retirement issues. So you're absolutely right when you say that there's now become almost a preponderance of women dermatology. If you look at our trainees, women outnumber the men for Serie to one and same thing if you look in two thousand, eighteen was the first time ever there were more female. Dermatologist and male dermatologist were about equal. So very interesting things that we found from workforce perspective. The one troubling thing about that was also in here, the number of patient visits per year male versus female. Now it's the difference is I. Think you quote here the mean number of yearly visits per dermatologist decreased as a whole group from six, thousand, three, hundred, twenty, three in two, thousand, and nine to five, eight, seven, seven, and two, thousand fourteen. But there was quite a split in in male females were seventy to sixty five for the mean number of patient visits in a year and females were down to forty, one, hundred, eighty one. Is, is that the work life balance I mean? Do we need to eat I know this is about a training thing, but it sounds to me like we need to really petition for more training spots we absolutely do and that is one of major recommendations that comes out at the end I. Sure. There's an element of gender parody and work life balance issues. We see differences in genders between. Those, who are working full time versus part time that's normal. That's natural and that's part of gender equity. But we are seeing these things and that's one of the main reasons we really need to increase the numbers of graduating dermatologists. Right. So so was there anything else in your store view there seems to be a a reasonable across the country the too many disproportions I mean the west used to have fewer. Now we're we're we're picking our number's up Quebec seems to still have the largest number or the quote the best ratio for their population. There are several issues that came up in the historical overview including the fact that there's definitely an increased need an increased demand for dermatologists. There's a lot of different reasons for that. But one of the main reasons is aging population with the aging population. We see a higher incidence of skin disease and also skin cancer but also there's a demand for dermatologist to address not just medical issues but healthy skin concerns and cosmetic aesthetic. Requests. So we definitely Caesar's that increased need and demand for dermatologists accessibility be was. Quite obviously an issue as well. There's definitely a disconnect between our rural and urban centers and actually our numbers There's different sources obviously anywhere from two to three percent of our dermatologist vied care to geographically isolated areas. And then wait times. Probably one of the most agreeing items here is that there's an increase in national wait times dermatologists, and well, really we don't know what the standard or appropriate wait time is for a dermatologist. If we go by the Canadian skin patient alliance national benchmark of five weeks pretty much the majority of provinces are not meeting those wait times. So these are all sorts of things. That we need to address. We also identified some areas in education I think which were really important. If you look at the literature historically anywhere from seven to twenty percent of family practitioners, visits are related to skin issues and yet when you look at the undergraduate medical education curriculum, an average of twenty one hours is provided for dermatology instruction. So there's definitely disconnects at that education level as well. It's striking in fact, and and I've been pleading to get more undergraduate education I. This is over twenty years. It's it's not increased in fact, it's probably decreased in time and my daughter who just got out into family practice is a pretty good example. She's got a great. Training and she can handle the cardiology in the net froggy and all those things that are important. Don't get me wrong. But as far as skin diseases concerned she has a rudimentary knowledge, but it's it's our problem is teachers and the thing I was struck by. In your historical review is was the lack of teachers. I think that's been. That's we we have to address that we do. There definitely is a lack of teachers you bring it up correctly, and in fact, if you look at the Post Graduate Medical Education. So if you look at our residents. We are producing more residents. There's a steady increase in the number of Durham residents, but there's not that same parallel in the academic realm, and in fact, one of the main. Comments that comes up frequently from residents is that they don't have the mentorship. They don't have enough exposure to that environment to necessarily want to go and take an academic position. So I think there is a there isn't as much academic dermatology happening or maybe we're not fostering the same kind of interest in making academic positions, but it's important to remember that not all of the teaching is done in those academic centers in fact, I. Would argue that a large majority of the teaching and the research is done in both community and academic centers ulcer. Sure for sure and I think that we have maybe I put this a different way. We probably have enough teachers look at our senior workforce. Absolutely. It's. It's how to engage them right and and and it's it's. It's a difficult problem in it's probably boils down to money at the end of the day because people out in. Making their own living and and Don't put the emphasis on the teaching that that we we all should, and so that engagement has to be part of the part of the. Solution if you will I, I would think. Of A novel way to do that we do and I mean, that's something we always struggle with because certainly when it comes to most academic institutions, there's not a ton of money I mean, generally we're in an era of financial restraint rate. So the universities don't have a ton of money to throw at educators, but I think that we do need to find those ways that'll be critical to engage the community to be more involved with teaching they play such a critical role here. Well. I hate to think that it all really boils down to money because with the amount of work done here in in in this project suggests a whole bunch of ways that outside of money we could make a difference. So if we can reflect back on some of these recommendations. And the training programs I this competency by design your competence by design training. Is it strikes me as a whole paradigm shift in in the way we're going to teach. The people coming behind us if you will. And I think engagement might be great here in an easy way to do it you know have you spent X. amount of hours with? X. Person who does why thing right you bet and I think that competence by design will transform the disciplines standards. In the way we educate our residents and so dermatology actually just embarked incompetence. By design, we started the process in December two, thousand nineteen. It's usually eighteen months to two years to roll out completely, but it works basically by transitioning to build upon and reflect on our strengths and training, and then to address any kind of pressures especially ones that we've outlined in the report. So I think come a cohort transformation process will be very helpful when we start articulating it using competence based model. I think it'll be great I I think that that to me thinking this through is, is the key to the engagement. So for example, I see lots of psoriasis do biologics INFO therapy, and if I take a residency, my practice, it's usually it's a global thing, right? Yes. Hurt versus it'd be nice to bring someone into the practice and have them focused on that area where I have some expertise and I, can share my learnings and of course, I can be taught at the same time and understand some of the the The basic science or whatever the residents need to know her or or just engage with them. So as they become my colleagues, it's an easier transition to keep the teaching model going. So you bet and I think part of the CBD. Covert transformation will involve specifically that a whole. You know it's it's not set in stone in terms of timing it is variable it's fixed depending on how people meet their. Major milestones, but there will be a really critical role for transition to practice, and these are going to be real exceptional opportunities for our residents to get out there and really get some hands on experience. Yep I like it, I like it now now as you. Talked about family physicians. And the certain certificate of added. Competence. Right. And you know we do all the we try and do teaching to the family practice audience. Too because I mean my my basic premise is that these men and women handle incredibly complex issues they should be able to handle dermatology At some moderate skill level at at the very least if not at high school level. So that I mean obviously, that takes us to one of the major recommendations in all of their switches we are dermatologist we want there to be more dermatologist, but we are also the stewarts of our profession, right. So we need to help train other specialists and family physicians to have a basic knowledge of dermatology so that they can basically increase their exposure to and proficiency in. Managing. Common. Skin conditions common skin disorders in that primary healthcare setting were in a specialty healthcare setting our number of specialties from the Royal College such as pediatrics. Rheumatology you know internal medicine or ID seed dermatological cases, and they should be able to handle those basic cases. But what we need to do is we need to as dermatologist help them develop the competencies that are required. So that they can handle these conditions and that they know when they need to refer to dermatology and when we do that, we will have had a very direct impact on societal needs. So we need to work not only at the undergraduate medical education level where we're working with the Association of It's the Faculty of Medicine's of Canada, but we need to work at the. Royal, college level for Royal College disciplines and with the College of family physicians of Canada. So we really need to show them the basics we have to be more actively involved in teaching our colleagues. So they know how to treat the basic conditions, and then once we've done that you know we can we can move forward with dermatology advanced areas of focused competence for our own residents. So it's almost like taking the competence by design in the training programs in focusing in creating a similar program in the family practice Rome. Right and the thing is as I mentioned as stewards of our profession, I? Think it's the responsibility of dermatologists to really actively take a role in this. I couldn't agree with you more I, mean the idea and my mantra over my years of practices, you have to take the medicine to the people and unless or otherwise you're of no value. Are Essences to to help our patients you bet and you mentioned the certificates of added competence and those are it's a very challenging and it's a bit of a contentious issue indoor mythology and part of that is simply because there are all these different certification programs they have these parallel certification programs that create different training standards they have different certifications. Their assessment and evaluation processes are inconsistent. So they're not equal and yet they're indistinguishable to the public and I think that's one of the concerns that comes out. Of course. So we need framework and structure as in all things and it doesn't have to be complicated. No. No not at all it doesn't have to be complicated at all. So you were very and I wrote this in one of my editorials You're very much ahead of the time when you were suggesting the use of telehealth. And Training and telehealth it it it clearly I the the The title of my story was telehealth goes viral. Because it was like an explosion. Right and we've learned a whole bunch so in in. The in the academic setting in which you're seeing complex patients has it has it really helped you to manage these folks are still finding a half to to bring them into the into the clinic to be asked you know what I think. There was a lot of reluctance initially especially during the covert pandemic as to how we were going to do it how you do it efficiently and you know. I guess when you think of Telehealth, you have to realize it sort of exists in this undefined regulatory space. Right there is no clear regulations with it. There have been no clear training standards with it funding all over the country is really Quite, frankly all over the map, and so the issue is, how do you implement something like that and I think that is one of the major recommendations that came up is that in order for us to address the needs of various populations but especially rural populations, vulnerable populations where it's not necessarily always easy to come in we have to be. So we have to be able to provide some other way to support them and telehealth does come up So there's a variety of new emerging technologies, virtual health and others that will be required as we move forward and unfortunately Cova just catapulted us into using them. It was you know it was meant to be and so the timing is perfect that we now implement this into training. So people have more standards of training in this and we know what we have to do. So a burner, her health services really got going and in a big way and. It. It's like they threw all kinds of energy at doing this and in the zoom platform and. As a platform worked out reasonably well, I mean the critical bits are still internet speed but. It been a decent platform because they have a professional grade or. Commercial greed. Surfaces Program it works quite well obviously, it's not as efficient by any means, but I personally have you know I see predominantly complex medical dermatology cases and actually worked quite well during the pandemic to see them because not all of the patients always need a complete skin assessment i. mean if you're dealing with someone who has chronic skin disease and you're monitoring it, you can get a pretty good idea as to what's going on by. Talking to the patient, the problem with the virtual platforms is that the resolution and the quality of the photos still aren't good enough. So it's very difficult. For instance, if you want to do skin checker look at nearby you know that those are hard to assess in that format but for more chronic concerns trying to get an idea for instance, if someone was psoriasis how extensive it is how active there Pentagon is it's it's suitable. Yeah. I mean I I've done a fair bit of it now, and you're quite right the the the I believe that the only reason for the virtual face to face is so that you can be sure in this theater of the consultation. If he will that the individual's understanding you, you can get some body language from them they can see you and. I think there's a certain amount of trust. The goes through eye contact an but you're right store and forward where you get pictures sent in is really the only way to assess anything really other than general extent of disease and dim but monitoring drug therapy seems to have worked quite well So. You know it's GonNa be hard to Wean people off. telehealth or if if we don't, we ended up not being paid for it. Yes. So I think that is one of the issues and certainly at the Royal College they can work with other with the government and we can lobby as the specialty committee and Dermatology the government to find better formats. But funding at the present time is a major issue with telehealth. Yep well, it's it's I. Think it's here to stay. So yeah. So. Yeah. So when you look at this whole Package put together and you've had months to ruminate over this Do. You think we're prepared for the next decade. I, do I think we have some challenges ahead but I think actually were doing quite well, and one of the things that impressed me the most was at the end of all of this, you know we did all these analysis. And one of the kind of maybe more reassuring ones was our jurisdictional analysis where we looked at dermatology training and Canada and we compared it to that of other jurisdictions and we predominantly looked at four jurisdictions like the United States, United Kingdom Australia New Zealand, and we actually found that we were broadly comparable with them. So I feel we're in line with what the rest of the world is doing i. think that's Great. We do have some pressure points that we identified and those are pressure points both in healthcare and in our medical. Education, systems. We talked about some of the pressure points in healthcare being telehealth, and how do we address rural and vulnerable population who might have unique health determinants but Also in the education around like that undergraduate teaching piece, we talked about I do fundamentally believe as we move forward and implement some of our recommendations. We're going to be able to successfully address these issues and prepare our trainees for the next generation I. Think they're gonNA do just fantastic. and we have outlined several measures to address the burden of care that is placed on dermatologist in Canada, and that's going to be a largely collaborative approach where we need to engage stakeholders and stakeholders will be other specialists they'll be educators, they'll be the government. Regime when. I Look around the world and collaborate on research projects and look at the the impact the Canadian dermatologist have in the international scene and. In virtually all spheres I think we should be proud of where we are and thanks to people like you our our successors if you will will be equally well trained and if we can engage this. Vast knowledge base we have and share it so much the better. So thank you very much that was wonderful and them. I really appreciate all the work that you end all of your committee members selflessly put forward trying to sort and figure out where we are and better and and more important to where we need to go. Thank you very much it's a pleasure and thank you because I really have to say It was an honor and privilege for me to work with the members of the dermatology working group many of them were dermatologists and many of them were in private practice, and I only tell you that we've given thousands of hours of our time poring through this to develop some key recommendations and key findings, and they are just so invested in doing right by Canadians and by Canadian dermatologists that it truly was an honor and a privilege to work with them. So it it chosen in your work in their work and all of your work. And Cute. Enjoyed my conversation with Dr Bernard Skate. Dr Bernard Ski is the Chair of the Specialty Committee Dermatology for the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons. Of Canada, in addition to her role is assistant professor of medicine and the section chief of dermatology at the coming school of Medicine at the University of Calgary. It's in her role as specialty chair that she was asked to gather task force called the dermatology working group to look at Dermatology and Canada as it is today and make recommendations for the future. From our conversation I'm sure it's evident that Regina Committee members put in a tremendous amount of work hundreds of hours to gather this information presented to us and to the committee. Of course, I wanted to highlight that the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons has accepted the recommendations of the dermatology of working group as outlined in the May June twenty twenty article specifically the outreach dermatology to. Vulnerable populations and to rural populations, and this is where telehealth is going to be a great advance and one of the things that is better taught in schools and is better utilized by those of us in practice. So. It'd be well worthwhile to spend a bit of time with the article and you can do so free of charge over the next three weeks. So, please take this opportunity. To do so. So I'm Kirk Barber. Thanks so much for listening and until next time be good to each other.

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Ep. 476 wine2wine Session Recordings | Is Wine Gendered

Italian Wine Podcast

30:27 min | 7 months ago

Ep. 476 wine2wine Session Recordings | Is Wine Gendered

"Italian wine podcast sheen with italian wine. People italian podcast as wind to wind two thousand twenty media partner is proud to present series of sessions chosen to highlight key themes and ideas and recorded during the two day event held on november twenty third and twenty fourth twenty twenty one twenty two thousand eight represented the first ever fully digital edition of the business to business for visit wine to wind dot net. And make sure to attend future additions of wine to wine business for good afternoon and welcome to this wine to wine session titled east wind gender commercial challenges and opportunities. I give you my warm. Welcome also on behalf. Origene lead that we're going to meet in a few minutes. I was excited when the team reclosed me to introduce this session. Because i think it's a new interesting perspective on the issue of gender and in particular gender inequalities. I really do care a lot about. I also think this is the right moment to keep talking about gender because we're somehow facing a watershed onside. We've never talked about inclusivity and diversity as much as were doing now. But we also saw the the comedy epidemics had a very negative impact in particular on women when he comes to their economic and professional side. If you think of the sector online side with more and more talented regime liba. I'm really glad she to introduce today on the other side. Where facing a number of issues and last most recent but really serious like the sexual harassment case that arose just a few weeks ago in the court of masters somalia in the us and also on the consumer side on one side. We see more and more women which are passionate onsumer at on the other side. We know that women have lower income. That man any tell you. This percentage is really. I think his council up goes way men having sixty percent on average bend the average income of man. And we also know that women are more and more involved with non-paid work in the household. All of this results in the fact that they have less money to spend more wine also to try wine and they have less time to invest on their education in. So i think the issue is big and the i'm really grateful to wind wine for bringing about onstage batta. We're all anxious to hear from regime. So let me just a remand. Birth actor gene. He or she is a welcome and good to see you. Regina's in master wines. Two thousand eleven and she. She's had the for. I'm not wrong. A couple of years at wsc team or on the development of in asia merkin and anti. She's a co-founder of the women in law in wine landa and acura wind professional accounting more than six hundred members as of today and finally she is holding the role of the national account manager at the leaper wine. So reggie william and stages yours really anxious listen to europe session. Thank you thank you so much. I really appreciate the introduction grades. And i want this session to be a conversation. I appreciate any questions A dialogue between me as as we go along in the presentation. Great so this session is about is wine. Gendered the commercial challenges opportunity. What will walk about is They'll do a quick introduction about what we do Then we'll talk about media portrayal of wine and sign industry And then we'll talk about how gender play into the wine industry with tasting notes. Then we'll look at kind of the male versus female line consumer and what our industry should be doing future so a quick introduction. I co-founded women in mind. London in two thousand fifteen with a colleague of mine. Who i work with while i was at w seti her name sue richardson We have another co founder name. Hannah van susteren as well. And so the three of us establish women in wine london to create a networking group for women working in the wine industry. We saw that. There's a need for women to support each other as well as to have an opportunity where we develop ourselves professionally so we have a series of events That we put on throughout the year. And as i mentioned we have six hundred members now And we do events talking about key topics in the wine industry not necessarily about gender specifically but the point is to become more intelligent and smarter about our work and what we do so we have events ranging from leadership to cv writing a negotiation skills but also things like sustainability in the wind industry the changing role of outlined by and the wind consumer etc. Quite different that we put on together. And i think our success is based on the fact that there is a need in the wine industry for women to come together and network and support each other and to build our confidence and that's a theme that they'll cover a little bit later to as we look at women consumers so i kind of wanted to start on the historical media portrayal of wine and in the wine industry. I thought it would be interesting to look backwards. A couple decades to see how The wine media has really treated gender. And i think it's quite a surprise. When i saw some of these photos especially the the photovoltaic kanter magazine cover because although not all wine advocates were like this. There's this huge focus on women. Being an object of what we call the male gaze and the male gaze is a part of a term that a lot of feminists us environments theory to talk about media and arts culture looking at it from only a male perspective and specifically a heterosexual masculine male perspective. What this male gaze theory says is that media are etc is focused on the man being the focal points and empowering him through visual cues of women in particular to make empower him but also to make woman object of desire. And this is kind of how we've seen certain portrayals of wine media throughout the years So yeah we we kind of. See this hyper sexualization of women as a way to kind of sell wine into market and this is kind of true in the advertising field in that period anyways so wine isn't very different from other consumer products and how the media has been advertising for example The picture on the left is an advertisement for women's deodorant. And it's interesting because this deodorant is kind of selling itself by making women more attractive to men. So you know. Innocence is sexier than you think Which is a bit of a creepy thing to say anyway but still it's very much in the sense of women buying a product or wanting to buy a product because they are the object of the male gaze of of the male focus similarly. There's the advert on the right hand side and this is an advert for a bra. And it's the tagline is this is no shape for girl and a pear shape which is actually kind of another negative side of the male gaze. Advertisements is that there's body shaming so women feel shame of how they look therefore need to buy a product to make them feel a little bit better and feel more attractive to men so interestingly even though these products are marketed to women still very much a focus of the man being howard body the power person in the balance of these advertisements. Fifa at for the tiles wire following vows when they saw the the image of the copper on the counter. I wasn't bit shocked. Knowing to the way is out ethiopian. Hamburger goes eight years the eighty s when it's s o. n. Pomigliano which are basic new economic data magazines used to have awful covers as well so we have to vote. This back in the right age is regina very clearly absolutely. Yeah as i said. There's lots of examples around the world of this too. So i guess the question is have we evolved since then since the seventies and eighties has The media portrayal of wine advertisement changed And yes and no so. This is interesting. These are current. Contemporary wine adverts And we see of course the man sitting in the chair looking very masculine and proud and that's also in aspects of the male gaze which is finding something aspirational for men to achieve. And that's the key part of advertising generally but interestingly there's still quite a bit of objectification of women adverts now the ad for the rhone valley wines has a woman unzipping her dress for example and i you know the translation here is that like the taste is really amazing. It's beautiful it's happy you can't wait. You know to to try it and there's a bit of humor now in kind of the way that the media shows gender so the picture on the bottom left tastes the bush. It's kind of a funny tongue in cheek thing to talk about women and their body parts also wind at the same time but it still kind of has the overtone of the male gaze. It's still very much The man looking at women as an object of desire so now is kind of interesting to kind of step aside from the media and now look at how the wine industry itself describes lie and how we use gender to talk about wine and describing to so these quotes are actually from bordeaux tasting notes that were published and i won't mention the journalists here but it's still very revealing to see that gender and -ality plays a big part in how we describe wine so the i quote is about the carvey pallet. This is a very sexy wine. Indeed obviously equating that to a woman's body on the second quotas also interest- interesting because it's talking about the tannin's of a wine and describing it as equally male and female. I'm kind of wondering you know. I'd be curious to know from producers how they feel about their winds being described like this and i'm also curious to know whether this helps us. Readers understand what wine tastes like or the texture better maybe does. And maybe that's why it's useful kind of description to have with wind to kind of describe it as male female. Some other tasting notes are actually a little bit more shocking here and a lot more overtly sexual but the first one is about the pallet is medium body with griffey tannin's on the entry and the second one is. It's a glossy set. Dare i say almost slutty. why And this this is kind of to explain it a little bit more. I mean glossy. Ns is doesn't have a gender bias relates about kind of a silky texture certainly words slutty in the english language and kind of slang means describing woman who is very sexually aggressive or sexually promiscuous in a very negative way. So it's a it's an insult to call someone slot or to call someone slutty but it's always negative. It's always derogatory And it's weird because the wine industry. And i've heard it and i've read about it. People calling winus slutty. Actually you know could be argued that denigrates the wine. It kind of puts down the wine a little bit and also makes the reader feel uncomfortable with with usage of that word again. I'm not sure if producers themselves would appreciate their own wind being called slutty or not. So now we've at the media. We've looked at the wine industry ourselves how we describe why so now to turn to the wine consumer and look at okay from a market perspective. What's the difference between men and women on the first question You know. I've asked just generally research. Dr are more female or male regular wine drinkers. And so the answers to this question and the others are based on wine intelligence Research paper published in two thousand eighteen. So for this question. Are there more female or male. Regular wine drinkers. Wine intelligence has found. No there's an equal gender split between female and wine mail wine drinkers and six major markets. Now another question. That's an important task is do men spend more money on wine than women are. Are the mail wine drinkers more important market than the women wine drinkers and they found that. Yes actually men more frequently drink and they have averaged a higher spend per bottle higher average then for bottles. They spend more every time they'd usury third question. Is our men more knowledgeable and confident about one than women wind intelligence found. They're not necessarily more but they're definitely so men have a natural around wine more so than women so i thought that was very interesting. There is a difference between man's email wine drinkers repeat. Adds something we were talking about where we can talk about before is that i am. I really find multiple the last pint. Meshal really true because my impression is that very often man feels like they need to show off about wine mass more than women do and this is for sure like social problem of consumer of being self confidence and l. man feeling that they have must have been more dominant role but there is another issue that needs to be address and ask more to do with professional education of so million. Because i'm sure that everyone of you talking here have been like leasing. Drowsy have been seeking the table. Maybe with some very professional educated wine women and having the so million or the matter to ask to be to imagine at the table. So what are we going to do about wine. So i think they're so syndication to on the trade side in order not to to make it Your bed just men will be the one who are below and will decide about the wine absolutely. I think the trade is so important and for us you know. We are the examples of the wine industry to the consumer as well so if we are not being inclusive to everyone or automatically judging. The man's be more confident or more knowledgeable than people are going to perceive that as an industry that's a bit more exclusion exclusive doesn't really include. Everyone actually wants to participate. So yeah and you know. Having the wine industry be on the forefront of inclusion is very important to our behavior matters and it will influence the consumer so that kind of goes onto the next set of questions is. Does it have to be this way you know. Does the male market needs to be more important than the female market. I guess another question is well. Isn't the wine industry overlooking women and that's a whole nother consumer market that we haven't really You explored more talks you properly to include so you know one question is is the female market overlooked and are we not doing enough to include women consumers which is big portion of our population into into the wine industry The second question is can remake female consumers more engaged with wine. Feel more confident. Feel like their knowledge is being heard or or they're being included in in the wine industry. And how we talk about wine to people. And i think that's an important part to tap into the female wine market born. The third question is can we have more inclusive or gender bias marketing with that. Help broaden out wine industry and the wine market a lot more. I think a lot of the wine industry now is talking about are shrinking consumer markets. But right now if that's the case we need to look at how we expand the consumer markets even more so we have to look at groups of people who we haven't traditionally talk to you or marketed to and i think one thing's kind of notes who is there's an actually entrench you talking to the female consumer now moseley on the mass market and brandon wine sector on see an advert for blossom hill. Overtly marketing to women And You know have a voucher beauty products voucher with wine purchases and marketing directly to women. Not you know looking at the male gaze or not focusing on the male gaze as the key focus. it's the female gaze female consumer that they care about similarly. There is a trend in celebrity wines and mostly when you look at celebrity wines or female celebrities so people like kylie minogue or cameron diaz or sarah jessica parker and again they're directly talking to female consumers not going through a male consumer and the male desire to get to the female consumer which i think is a very interesting development. This isn't something that i think. The fine wine market has really looked into tapped into and kind of debates as to why. But i think it's important to keep in mind that this is a trend happening now. So what do women consumers care about the. I've read a lot of research as to. What are the key things that women consumers care about and one thing also to note is not Women need and this is kind of through quite a few studies Actually control much of the household spending so women contribute to seventy eight to eighty percent of household spending for you know for the us market as an example and so when they looked at what women actually care about when they're purchasing there's a few key values that they look for products one is authenticity to the values of the people producing the product. Three is sustainability and force providence. So another stat says that fifty seven percent of Hair dowd brand. Value as as a way to kind of describe what to purchase and of women casino. Eight percent of women sumers stay loyal to a product if they find that that fits their values. So that's really really important to note. And i think you're quite key thing. Is that the fine. Wine market has always been interested in communicating about these four now. Authenticity sustainability providence. This is something that the fine wine market has always really tried to emphasize. So there's a clear connection between the female why consumer and and what wine is trying to do generally to market itself. Yeah anchorage Adds something. I was really impressed by seeing this values as core for women on the consumer side. Because i think it fates very well with every search that i've seen a couple of years ago about female wine producers in easily because there is a strong link between the fact that a a winery is headed by a woman in italy and the fact that it reduces more. Do see wines or organic wines. So there's a clear preference of women. A female producers words sustainability end as strong links with arab territory. So i think they feature matches on the size of reduce the production and stop short definitely. That's such an interesting statistic because you're right this to size the producer consumer interlinked and then just looking at you know fine wine marketing and tasting notes their descriptions that we use for certain wines red and white that are often you know typically used for certain things like napa valley cabernet sauvignon would be described as heavy are rich muscular bove whereas shadley would be elegance delicate lights floral And we use these kind of gender differences in mind so we were to turn these wine into people. This is kind of what we picture. Napa valley cabernet to be versus chevy. Now sean connery as james bond versus marilyn monroe. But i kind of wonder. Now what is the future of gender differences. Is there different way to think about why and descriptions and perhaps future could be something like this whereas you know beyond say could definitely be described as bold and muscular forceful and someone like david bowie. Perhaps delicate elegance or lights. So there's so many difference. Now blurring of lines between gendered. We also see this. You know in certain key developments in the lesbian gay bisexual transgender queer movement. Where you know. They're kind of emphasis. On equal rights and equal recognition has meant that our conception of gender is changing is evolving. It's not black and white and it's not just male a female anyway so just kind of in summary what can what can we do will again. We can focus on consumers and how we talk and how we act towards them to be more inclusive and also look within ourselves in the wine industry and say what can we do to be more lucid and to have so many more diverse. You points on things like gender inclusion And this is just to end by saying you know there's been surveys done about women in the wine industry and what their concerns are because having a diverse workforce in a diverse industry will naturally break some diversity to how we talk to consumers so just some things to think about in our own companies if we lead them or work in them know pushing for things like equal pay good working conditions for both men and women and working families a good maternity leave policies. I'm really looking at sexism in the workplace. Not something that. The recent article from the new york times really highlighted that there sexism in the workplace. That shouldn't be tolerated. And we shouldn't Really give any arabs you. So that's it for the main presentation. And i was just going to open up to comments and questions. Now origene regina thank you very much. I personally found very very interesting. And i have impression on the following as ahead the same feeling. I think we do not have any quest young on the on bitten session by we've had a very interesting exchange on the on the chat so a. M something. I found quite shocking. Came up from the child and i would lean do the one of the last point of view. Your presentation is being cash. Needs a supreme offer Who says as a universities too. I was still talk to us tax or publication to sell wine in two thousand sixteen honestly. Is this something that should make all of as being on the. How much need we have of the sessions like base face. They the situation. That's so recent two thousand and sixteen. That's not that long ago. And i guess you know this. This is yeah. The session is to talk about it and to come up with ideas. I don't have all the solutions. But i think together just talking about it really helps flesh out some of these key topics. Yeah another point that has been Risen by julia Pressed yet is the fact that also looking at social network is the brand seemed bhartiya. There are lots of money. female grammars were still using kind of imagery that goes in the mail gets the sean is an issue origene. Yeah it's true. And i mean instagram. It's it's something that the wine industry can't control you know. It's whoever wants to post about wine. In however way they want to. That's up to them right. Like a similar argument about wind. Journalists and weather wind journalists still the center of power describing wine and talking about why maybe not maybe social media influencers might be the new ones. But i still think that even though you know social media influencers do their own thing and we can't really control that as an industry we ourselves have to be. You know the models to to talk about inclusion. You know we can also guide the conversation and the professionalism that we have as an industry towards gender equality so camille. You're talking about smelly as can be more of open to you. Know getting wine wine recommendations or or talking to both a male and female wine consumer equally. That's something that the industry can do ourselves. I perfectly agree. Well i think we to be on time okla so if you agree originally i would like to thank all of those who follow as i've seen Sound ratings roma the u. s. Canada is from italy so from many parts of the world. I think you're presenting in very very interesting. And i also thank them would be boomer station that has been going on the chat with many vary in us. So thank you were macha. Thank you so much. I think you winds wind to you. I really appreciate the opportunity to talk about this. Thank you enjoy the rest of the sessions by. Listen to the italian wine podcasts. Wherever you get your podcasts. Were unsung cloud apple podcasts. 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Episode 010 An Interview With Dr. Regine Muradian

How Do You Mind

47:40 min | 8 months ago

Episode 010 An Interview With Dr. Regine Muradian

"Hello and welcome to heidi minds the podcast that talks about self care mental wellbeing and gives a general life advice. My name's jodie and i'm your host on today's episode. I'm very excited to say. I have an interview with dr version morad hidden. She is a licensed clinical psychologist based in los angeles. She's an author. She's a mum. she speaks five languages. She's incredible we had a really really great chat. We talk to bill but with the restrictions how we've all been coping in locked iron and we chatted about mental health in teams. And which is something that she specializes in but we also talked about her brand new book frankie in which linked to in the description so that you can check out yourself without further ado. Here is my interview with. Dr regime meridian. So first of all. I just want to say thank you so much for doing this. Supplies tap you here and talk to you. Yes absolutely my pleasure as well so wonderful to be here. That's fantastic and obviously you are in the. Us you must have different restrictions that we've got here at the moment in the uk. What kind of covid. Restrictions are facing. Now oh gosh so right now It looks like we're preparing to go into another lockdown. If at least it feels like that. Yes i mean such as you know outdoor dining shutting down slowly and things like that on but some kids are back in school kindergarten through second. That's the major just a major changes but it feels like it's the same all over the world based on what i'm seeing. We're we're pretty much same here. It feels like girl walking down again. Yeah they schools. Some of our schools are back in some marne. Yes yes i mean. How are you coping with everything else. Be so hard. I know it's well my you know mama three Working from home and it's You know it's had its challenges. I feel at this point. It's common question. I get is i feel. Were were all adjusted so to speak to to the routine by this point i. It was certainly hard at the beginning But now it's it's we're a little bit more in the flow of things. I think it's interesting. You mention that i was telling someone the other day. It's gonna be really interesting when we all have to go back to normal. When i see normal how it used to be and getting up in the morning and getting dressed and rushing out of the house and getting the kids to school in activities in just getting back on that track kind of reminds me of when you stop working out and you get back into one right. That's what it feels like to be so it's it's going to certainly be interesting And we all feel this way. We don't know when that's going to be Really interesting certainty that. I find so tiring late. It's really yes yes absolutely. How is it over there. I mean as i say. We're in a weird stage where we're locked down but we're kind of note that the same time like we've some of our. Our cafes are led to open. our bars aren't which because of alcohol alcohol takes way in addition so then we hug each other and everything but then there's other parts of scotland. Were bars are allowed to open in a bit of a weird. Every place is different. Yes oh gosh. I know where. I feel like anywhere. We anyone or you speak to in the world is is in the same boat. And they're feeling the same emotions i i. There's kind of like this bond where you can talk to anyone about. Covert and we. I think we've all been through something very similar in similar emotions. Absolutely what. I find great by that. Those who is literally worldwide like. There's no one country that isn't feeling right now. that's so yes shared experience. You know yes absolutely absolutely yes. We've got a few questions repaired. Fritz i thought i would just start off by asking how you're getting on. Oh thank you. Thank you so i wanted to ask. How did you get started in clinical psychology so Gosh i Initially i was studying international relations and politics. That was my passion. As i wanted to get into. My dream was to work for the united nations and children's rights. I was loved working with children. I always knew that and Life took a different path. I have to say After i finished my bachelors and fell into psychology literally it was It was a a sort of a. Ah push of. What do i do. Now and Just fell into it and literally fell in love with it because it just felt so second nature to me. And that's how i Became a psychologist It wasn't something that was ever on my mind ever planned. And i think that's the beauty of it is life really takes us in different directions. I think when Now especially as. I work with a lot of teenagers and prepping them for college. I do a lot of that. In organizational management and executive functioning and taming the anxiety with applications and interviews. A telephone. you know. I think there's so much pressure. Oh what do you wanna be. Who do you wanna be what you want to do. And having not pressure at seventeen or eighteen to to know is so premature. Because i just from my experience i have to say you don't really know or you may know but it may take you in a different direction. So i love that. There's that exploration phase especially here in the united states. I believe i'm not sure. Correct me if i'm wrong I'm not sure. If in scotland. I know we have the levels and levels is that correct. Is it still like that. It's actually changed since i was at school. I had something called standard grades which is no longer a thing but i know in england say levels and in scotland. There's yes yes yes okay. It's tough because you kind of have to pick quite early. What you kind of want to do yes. Absolutely and i grew up in europe so for me it was. You know the european education system. Which is you know. It is one of the best right. We have excellent education. And there is that bush trying to figure out what you wanna do. based on just as early as high school. So it's really interesting. And i think that's what i really valued was the shift on the turn and i'm so glad i kind of got into this and doing it fifteen years later and loving it more anymore. So you mentioned that you grew up in europe. I believe it was totally. I grew up in france from sorry in france. yes I was born in the uk on and my my parents. Were you know in import. Export their jaws. My dad was a physician and traveled a lot so every four years we were literally living in a different country on. So i've had quite a bit of school changes growing up I did most of my schooling in france But also in israel and in romania and then what brought us here to the us Again was was also my mom's job so's pretty interesting as i was able to grow up with different cultures and was blessed really blessed to learn five different languages during that process and Just gave me a really good world view. And that's really why. I was so intrigued with the international world and for me it was just second nature working for the un or type of governmental agency was just the second just normal for me You know and just follow in those footsteps. Yeah absolutely i mean. I wish i could speak five languages honestly. I wish i'd pay you some. Is you pass onto your children. You teach That's where i failed. You see that's the failure piece What was that question. Well you know they it's really. It's really difficult. I wish i did if i could do that over. That's when i surely would It's a hard thing. I think with languages. You have to have a parents speaking that language and other parents speaking another language and maybe the country. You're living in your learning that so we live in america. I mean english as their first language and They learned armenian You know just being in the schooling system in for my husband and family But i wish. I wish they could have learned my daughter's right now taking french And i can see. She has an affinity to languages already. She's picking it up so easily and you know no. I wasn't able to pass on all of them. But we're definitely very multicultural. And they hear it. You know they'll hear me. Speak romanian with dad. I'll speak a different language with someone else. And so i think there's that desire i can see that to learn and want to learn. I think it's hard when you know you're working parent as well. It's hard to kind of put all of your time into that. You know yes. Yes no definitely. it's definitely harder So i i love the schools to that have multicultural language. And immersion pwerful Kids are very resilient day Just knowing multiple languages so good for their cognitive structure and they're able to they can learn they can do it. I want to say by the age of eight. I was already fluent in three languages. So you can. It's very possible without confusion. I think a lot of parents feel. Oh my kid will get confused. Or they'll you know they'll develop a speech impediment or something and i say no. Their their brain is so plastic. They they can do it. They can definitely Ease into that. Yes lutely another kind of area. I want to ask you is evolves been practicing for was. Did you say fifteen years about yes or fifteen years so in the years into started practicing. What changes have you noticed about the portrayal of mental health in the media. Oh yes there's i've i've noticed tremendous change just in the development of teenagers in general. I want to say You know from what i remember. From the beginning we had we had social media but not as much and now. I'm seeing more in terms just mental health. I don't know if we're just more aware of it because we're talking more about it But i certainly feel that. Social media has impacted a lot of issues such as body image anxiety on and also depression. And we've all heard of you know the effects of social media depression and how that makes you feel and you know that that had a huge that had certainly has a huge impact on the shifts that we're seeing. I'm also seeing more acceptance towards mental hall of i'm seeing a more of an openness in terms of parents being a more forthright and and wanting to help the kids in a different way so that's been really great and But social media you know it has its positives that has its negative. And i think there's a lot of education. I do around dot component which is so important especially nowadays and realizing that what you see is really not real kids and teens really internalize that as real I i think there's also concept here in the states we call it fomo which is a lot right there. You know you you check on story on instagram or facebook. And you know you're you weren't invited to that party or you weren't included in something and that can really damper Their mood and just create so many assumptions in their mind of what might have occurred and of course that creek creates symptoms of depression isolation and just feeling withdrawn. So what advice would you give to parents. Who have children dealing with that. Well i'm a big proponent of communication so it's all about teams and children having the strength and courage to talk to their parents and you know one one one advisor technique guy. I usually give is being an active listener. Which means not offering your advice when you see. Your child is in pain or struggling just being present and being there and listening rather than saying. Oh you're going to be fine. Stop crying you're going to be okay. Stop warring It's kinda like we have a rule we don't tell an anxious person when they're having an anxiety attack calm down you never want to say that is the worst thing. They don't want to hear that 'cause they're head going boy can't become yes because their their whole sympathy. You know all the the nerves and you know everything's just rambling and and going off chart and they want to control it internally but they just can't and same goes with this active listening exercise which is all about. You know parents saying something like okay. I'm here. I wanna listen. I can see that you're upset. I can see that you are frustrated and making more of a remark on the behavior that is happening rather than trying to fix it. And i think as parents we rush too often to fix the problem rather than teaching our kids to fix it themselves and this is all about teaching responsibility and independence and it goes such a long way so oftentimes teens will say i just want my mom to sit and listen to me like i don't want any advice. I don't wanna hear any feedback or anything and this goes for my adult clients as well and teens. I work with I do the same with my kids. I have three Fifteen ten and twelve year old and this is a common exercise. And we i say. Are you ready. do wanna hear something. Mommy has to share or what you think so. We use a lot of questions. Yes it does take more time on the part of the parent but is so helpful because it really creates this non-threatening space where they you know. Kids feel in general that you're going to judge them. They feel that you're going to have a negative comment. They feel that you know you're not going to be accepting of what they have to say. So and i always call these assumptions. Because it's what kids internalize the same. They do with friendships. Also interesting what. You're saying that you know kids have an assumption of what their parents could say. I was literally talking by mom two days ago. But the exact same thing i automatically. She's to have this widely negative respond. But give you. Some context of my mom is in social work so i kind of grew up with more of an understanding of this site of things myself so a feminist Perspective i've really noticed with social media is a lot of my friends. Just think what's the point in getting dressed up anyway. I'm never been a lake her. So i'm wondering if you noticed a connection between this kind of you know instagram filter snapchat filter and body dismore via. Yes in the comparison so if we think about prior to social media you would probably be Let's say at an event a party and you'd be sitting down on a couch watching people dancing. I'm just giving an example. And you'd be looking at that girl who you would strive or someone you're tracking. I would like to be like that. I would like to look like that and then you were done. You went home and you probably thought about it a little bit but then you would get distracted something else and it would leave your mind now. Today was social media. It's constantly right there at your fingertips you see it every day You see that same girl has taken a context that person that you know you you envy or like wow. I'd like to be like that. But i know i can't so i think at the end of the day. That is more of a symptom of what the person is internally feeling and you know there's so many sites now I think there's one on instagram. Actually my daughter showed me. It's called feminism and on instagram. And i really like it because it really shows it just normalizes how women look how they feel and we come in all different shapes and sizes. And that's what's normal and that there isn't a specific type of person that you need to ascribe to so oftentimes i'll tell my teens and essay follow pages that make you feel good Avoid trying to use the filter. If you feel like you have to use a filter. Just don't post it. Because is that who you really want to be as that who you want to portray herself as yes. They're using filters there. There's the Slimming i think there's like a slimming up to you know slimming your arms and legs. But i really believe based on what i'm seeing just with teams in general that the go through this phase between especially here. I'm not sure how. It's in europe. But i'm sure i mean kids. All over the world are probably experiencing this in middle school which is grades six seven and eight right before they hit high school there. It's most difficult time for them. And the reason why between the ages of ten and thirteen is the most difficult time is because they're developing they're creating their identity There's the physical development breast development for boys. It's you know the voice maturing so they're going through all these hormonal changes and you know there's puberty heading add you know in. This is what they're seeing in front of the mirror and it's scary. So i think it's so important to be able to normalize so for example If your child's breaking out and like oh my god. I look so i don't like my face. I mean you'll hear that a lot. It's all about well you know. That's that's something you can work on right or that's something you can do about that. It's okay you're beautiful. The way you are this is normal. Let's talk about why this is happening. And then they're really curious to know in that could be also Diet diet in terms of sugar intake or etc and then they kinda learn how to take control now in terms of body image. And how i look in terms of my form. This is not about teaching them. Oh i have to change this. No this is about them loving who they are in really understanding that you are unique and special the way you are and that everyone is gonna be different and you know even in life you know you take this a step further. When you get a job you will have people around you in a boardroom or or in your office. Who are different. And i'm going to have different ideas and personalities and Are you going to get upset if somebody has a better idea than you so you know you really goes from the body image piece of how i feel on the inside now to the exterior and then you even bleed it through competition and you bleed it through You know just intellectuality. So that's why. I think it's so important to nail this and and really have kids you know. I think like you said even your mom being a social worker so helpful right when you have constant communication or conversations around mental health because as you older. It's something you're so used to talking about and this is no different. I think that when we do talk about that it helps another piece. I wanna bring up with. This is around body image and eating disorders. Just in general that can develop his parents to be really in tune with how they communicate about food in the house I feel like when parents do things like. Oh don't eat this. Don't eat that Oh my gosh you had so much of that today or so much of this today. It really brings a lot of attention to the food rather than redirecting the behavior so you know parents have a choice. We'll just don't buy that dan. If you feel that that's something that they're going to be attracted to because you saying don't eat. That can definitely create a lot of issues or even. I've seen you know parents saying. Oh you have to finish everything on your plate everything. You can't get up from the table to finish that. Well then we see a link of that an obesity in children. So there's it's interesting. How how we communicate around food is so important because that's also how it impacts our body image and what we see about ourselves. Also another thing is how parents communicate and parents to be mindful. You know are the staring at themselves in the mirror. Are they very obsessed as a parent about their body image their physique how they look What are they saying about themselves. In front of their child's that's another thing. Is your child seeing you getting ready for hours and hours and hours on end in front of the mirror. What are you teaching them. When that happens you see so there becomes a. I want to say a focus right on on that in. That can't translate absolutely. I'm more interested and curious about social media in. You know looking at all the people that i wish i could be instead of really working on how i am feeling inside and my happy with who i am and who i look like within myself. I think he brought up a really interesting point thereby apparents looking at themselves. 'cause kids pick up on everything yup. It's my experience anyway. You know they even if you don't think they're picking up on something they know there's something going on. And so if they're hearing their mum say you know i'll never look like that they're gonna automatically pick up on that thought process as well subconsciously. Which i think is really really interesting. Yes yes it was just about. Maybe changing the words that you use on going to work so i can get you know i'm gonna work. Today's can get body like hers as maybe a different way of framing it but yeah no interesting or even know say oh well i'm gonna work out to to strive to get the body. I want for myself. You see or or strengthening my legs or strengthening my ads or strengthening my arms and Even when i talk about working out You know with my kids. we always especially my older one. We talk about you. Know sh always tell me You know mom. Let's go work out. She loves to work out in run etc. And i said you know how does that make you feel when you work. Because i feel so good. I feel energized. I feel motivated. I feel more focused. And i liked those words. Because it's she's not saying. Oh i'm working out. Because i want to look like that or like this person or but you could say. Oh i want to strengthen my legs or my arms or etc. So i it's okay i feel when it's inwardly turned into how they wanna look for themselves. And that's your goal on your body what you wanna do for yourself but not necessarily comparing myself. I think somebody can be a role model like wow. She's so inspiring as a physical trainer while she's so pretty she looks great And not getting fixated. Oh my gosh. I have to have the same legs. It's hard because i will never have same legs as her. She's not you know. Yeah exactly but it's so true. You're right i think there's that fixation on that absolutely and then you feel like oh. Whatever i'm doing is not good enough or i. Don't look as good as that person So just reframing it can be really helpful. And i always advise parents you know. Just turn everything when something's concerning to you or sounds concerning is framed and form of a question Instead of saying a statement or trying to fix what. They're feeling because you feel like it's wrong. What they're saying or it could be harmful frame it in form of a question that you can create a dialogue. Oh tell me more about that. What do you mean by that you know and just engaging them in that way so you can really hear what they have to say. That's brilliant vice. I'm gonna be telling everyone about that by the way i'm going to be one. Something a bit different. So i was having a look on your website I'm looking at some of the different therapy techniques that you use. I saw that use at mindfulness. As one of your therapy techniques. Can you tell me a bit more about how that works. Oh yes one of my favorites So mindfulness is it's really about being in the moment and feeling grounded. I do a lot of. I always start with breathing because obviously most of my clientele day are anxious. Or i mean regardless of what you're presenting with. I think we are. World is so fast paced that we don't really get to enjoy the moments right now at this moment. You just sitting here with me in this room. Today you woke up this morning. You're breathing you are healthy. You are here And it's really about doing visualization. And i only start with that and it's also a technique to help them to snap out of whatever they are thinking that could become obsessive or exiled provoking that they can practice when they're not in the office so for example. If they feel like a panic attack is coming up. Or if they feel like they're getting trigger about something as just really about redirecting the mindset so we do visualization so it could be. I want you to imagine a place that you really love and you feel so happy so for example share if they have a hard time finding that say well for me. It's the beach. I'm imagining myself sitting on the beach. My eyes are closed. And i feel the sand in my feet. I feel the sun basking on my arm. I feel the heat. And i could hear the waves. So it's all about engaging your five senses you can do this for a couple of minutes and then you have them then. Because they're so focused on that visualization of what's happening you have them also take three deep breaths right deep through their nose and out through the mouth and you do that three times and you know in the open their eyes and then you do a redirection. Exercise in redirection is all about okay. What is something else you can think about in that moment. Instead of focusing on what made you feel upset or anxious or triggered so. That's a form of mindfulness. i also use There's so many. I'm sure you know incredible Applications out there One of my favorite is ucla It's an app. uc l. a. Mind full there is usc so u. s. as in sam c. As in cat. It's called usc mindful There many many calming apps. There's also head space. And i recommend these. You know you can use these at any time The i usually do them daily. They're very helpful. is people are suffering from insomnia. Ucla mindful has thirteen minute. One which is incredible. You will be out within thirty minutes. And it's pretty much guided. Mindfulness meditation And again if you really think about it when you listen to all these meditations is really about bringing you back to the now right now in this moment and i think that's what we tend to forget. We tend to make so many plans for out that we never really get to enjoy right now right here and you know you started today with cova d- and yes we can dwell on this and say how awful this is or in which it is and you know how hard it is to to not be back at work to be here in the home all day but i try to redirect people in looking at it from a positive standpoint as well. We'll look at all the things that you were never able to do before that you can do now. What are the things that you are grateful for right now. At this moment. I think people you know getting to spend more time with their kids wouldn't have had otherwise is a big cheer. Yes yeah. I know unless the yesterday so many mentioned that i was you know was in the kitchen. I was putting things away and then i was thinking to myself just a thought silently. Wow if there were school tomorrow. I would have to wake up at around six. Am rush rush rush. Get the kids out. Do this do that. Pack the lunch is the snags Yeah i would be free all free by eight. Am and just have my time. Like i used to just to me. Do i really want that right now. So it was so great to snap into that moment. Where 'cause i really enjoyed on. I we we did you know. There's this incredible bond that was built with all three They're just so used to us all being together Especially having lunch together everyday and dinner together every day you know not really stressing over the driving component. There's a lot of driving here getting them to different places i felt. I was an uber driver. Half the time to be honest. I don't really miss that. You know by you know it's just redirecting yourself in any situation you find yourself. You know how i i know. This was hard and not to discount. The tragedies right in the lives lost is it's horrible desire. You know obviously our hearts go out to everyone we we've had also some losses but just to look at the context of of where you are at now in this moment is another part of mindfulness. And you know being grateful for for this moment right now even if it means you're sleeping in an extra hour or two or your stress levels have decreased You don't realize it. My my husband yesterday for the first time had to go back in the office to go pick up something and then he said oh. It was so great to be in there. I loved it. And i and before he wasn't that fond of it because he used to love his fridays where he was working from home. Because there's just so far. He drives a lot to get to work. But i said you see you see something you took for granted you see how much because you know he just you have all your things at work and you know everything's there so you don't know what you have until it's gone stockley. Yes and the grass is not greener on the other side. And i feel sometimes we need these wake up calls right to you know just in general i just think however life takes us. Sometimes we do need to step back and it's hard because life takes over and and you're not able to to step back and look at how it could have been or should have been. Yes absolutely going to move on again. Because i want to talk about your book frankie. Laurie b.'s yes. I absolutely loved the idea of this book. I think the reason that you did. It is really really great. And i think it can help so many people in your field communicate on a different level so if you could just talk us. Talk shows little bit more about the book. Yes thank you. So frankie was really never in my plans. It's it's one of those spontaneity things that just happened. I don't you love spontaneity. I think the best price of the best things. Come out of spontaneity so it happened so we hit one was pandemic. poch pandemic started in march so around march all of us. I mean i think the entire world had to stop in rethink how we're going to do business in our going to work and for us. Psychologist therapist providers and many other professionals Zoom or tele therapy was was the next route or the only route available. Thank goodness for for that. And i was noticing that kids and and just my clients in general. We're having a very very hard time adjusting and connecting online. Obviously by now. They're very used to it. I've had this. It's been great. And i had to think fast and one of the things i use in my practice. Just in general is i love using usually i would use verbal analogies. Just explain things. Like i would say. Oh you're in a bubble in you're stuck in that bubble. Is that what it makes you feel like or sometimes you give an analogy of a notion or you feel like you're drowning and you feel you can't keep your head up on the surface so i use a lot of analogies in my practice which helps all my clients from all ranges and this is how frankie was born because it started with this little i. I sh- frankie was a girl not a boy And you know. I went back and forth with a character but i i'm not. I'm not an artist. That's not my area. I have to give kudos to my incredible artists. Tim greene she's amazing. And but it was stick figure with to bubbles. And this how i was doing it via zoom i was telling my clients will. Okay i know right now is a really time for you guys. I know this is rough. I know adjusting to online learning hard. I know you don't like to have your camera on and everyone staring at you I know you're having a hard time turning assignments etc. I mean the list of negatives was just outpouring. Sure and still now. I think kids are still struggling So we would right now gives on one end because i was trying to offer them solutions. Like how am i going to help them through this. This was just one of those things in crisis mode that we were doing and then they turned all the negatives into positives. And what does that. Look like okay. So let's say somebody said. I can't do this. I'm not strong enough I can't go through that surgery. Or i can't do this. I can't do that and they would turn those negatives into positives like i can't do this. I am smart. I am able and and i would have them repeat that every day k they would stick it on their wall and they would print they would do create their own drawing etc. So when i noticed the success and the kids would come back. And tell me wow. I'm not scared of this anymore. This worked or iced. I have a fear of this animal. And i don't have it anymore. We're have aced out of fear of turning on my camera. now i don't They started telling me how helpful this was. And then. I just knew at that moment that i had to turn this into a story. And that's how frankie was born. You know and i had at first many kids my kids my kids and other kids were my critics. I i had them read the script and you know the only word my my son who's ten. He's like mom you can't use. The word procrastinate. No one knows what that word means. I said you know what i said. Aj right that is a really hard word but guess what you guys are reading such difficult books just in general on how about that being just a new word because i think procrastination is so widely. Used i think it's misused. I think we just think of kids as they can't do it. They're just being lazy or they don't wanna do it. But there's usually an underlying issue to that which is emotionally related. And that's how frankie was born and it was really taking you through that journey of conversation and communication and how parents are also being vulnerable in the book and normalizing. Oh yeah i have worry beast too. So that's why. I came up with the concept of the b.'s I look i love bees. I hope no one gets offended with the bees. The bees are they have a negative connotation just in a sense where you know when you have a bunch of bees buzzing around your head. You're gonna run. You're gonna get scared and run even if you see one My grand everyone know they can. Yes yes and. I always make that joke because my my grandfather was a credible. He's to have bee hives and he's the one who actually he gave me one of my first Instructions on on on be collecting and honey and he would make his own honey so it was so interesting. Because i think i got bit so many times that kind of stuck with me as a child and it does create that fear. So it's so interesting. How the be the be- analogy was the first thing that i that came to my mind. Doesn't it feel like these buzzing bees all around you. That's what the worries feel like. So that's how that came about. I honestly i. I think i said already just loved the idea of it because sometimes it can be difficult for people to vocalise either feeling i think having in an image makes it easier to be like yes. That's how i feel At least that's how i feel about the book anyway. Oh thank you thank you yes. Let's that's my goal is for it to be helpful And it has got this activity. The activity i have activity at the end of the book. the book can be found on amazon. And you know i'm parents can photocopy it. There's a girl version and boy version And you can create any version you want and i just wanted you know for parents to be able to you could photocopy it and you can pace it on your wall and you can have your kid. You know. Draw in their own positive thoughts negative and then you know work on it every day and see how that helps them. And obviously you know. I always recommend seeking a mental health professional being zaidi intensifies or any of the symptoms that the experience intensifies but believe it or not even my adults loved it so they really responded well to it. Because i see you know not just children but i see teens young adults and adults and they also loved it and responded really well Some laughed at the beginning and said oh my gosh regime. This is so silly. I mean they weren't offensive reducing. This is so silly this is an and they would come back and say oh my god i said yes. Of course it works are so you know. And it's not a new concept if you really think about it the idea it's all about manifestation right and if i get up in the morning and i say i'm going to have a terrible day today if i say that i will have because it's all about how i visualize see things but if i get out of bed and say jody i'm gonna have an amazing day today. Make the best of it. I'm going to try to be calm and happy and enjoy. Every moment i will. I will most likely have a great day so it is same concept because i think that kids and adults to right we we get stuck in the negative. And we right. We hyper focus on. Not and when you hyper focus on that you are attracting that to you. So it's there's something to be said about seeing things in a different light. it's kind of like. Oh my gosh think about it this way too with a friend for example see here i go with my analogies i say. Why don't you start looking at other people with good intent me. She didn't mean to say it. That way to you in that tone. She didn't mean anything bad about it. Why don't you start seeing things when people speak to you with good intent that they're coming from a good place rather than a bad place and i think that we can internalize that. Oh my gosh. Did you see how she said that to me or what she said to me. That was so hurtful to me but maybe in reality that person was just a different personality type and was just trying to help you and maybe that was just their style and they didn't mean anything wrong by it. And i think if we change the way we see things we'll see people in general in a better light because it's so easy to jump the gun and john to the negative and make assumptions about what something was sad or how it was said instead of thinking. Okay thanks for that right well. That's your opinion and this is mine and you move on makes. It makes a an easier life for everyone really. Yes yes just have one more question for you. This is one that i ask anyone who comes on which has any self care tips. That's that's great one. So yes i have a lot of self care tips. Are you ready. So you know the first thing i think that's important. Is you know. I i think everyone has i think number. If we don't take care of ourselves we can't take care of other people so self care for you could be you know i'm going to wake up this morning. I'm not gonna look on my social media. Maybe i'm going to you know since we're in quarantine maybe i'm gonna go outside and take a walk or maybe i'm going to check out that yoga video and do that every morning for ten minutes or stretching exercise what is it for me that makes me feel good about myself or we'll get me energized and in good spirit so to me self care is taking care of yourself first before you can take care of other people and it could be anything that you feel. That could be relaxing to you. And i think people have to step back and think about what is that for me that can even be the you know one of the ops adjusted and doing that for five minutes. That's also another form of self care Baking could be as form self care cooking. I think what's helpful is just sitting down and writing down all the self care activities that you enjoy and would do for yourself Even taking a bath or taking a warm shower and then getting a good buck or listening to a podcast Whatever it is that gives you that five to ten minutes a day to you and you can start with self care in your day for ten minutes and then ended it with ten minutes on it. could be lighting. A candle could be anything that makes you feel good. It could be journaling right. So i'm a big proponent of journaling and writing down our thoughts and how our day went and what is one thing. I can take from today that i was grateful for one thing i can change about my behavior or what i did or i didn't do and could also be a form of self care journaling. I've doing over the past few months that it really does make such a big difference. I think yes. It's so helpful right because it feels that you know. I'll often ascribe journaling to excuse me to letting out your emotions You know exerting all those pent up emotions that we feel during the day that we're not aware of and letting it out on paper and is such a powerful and healing tool to use. Yes and i think it helps them sleep better as well because we kind of go all those salts ringing her head down on paper yes you don't have the buzzing bees at night. Well yes. that's very good. Yes well thank you so much for doing this today. Thank you for coming on. I'll let you get on with your day. we've been here for quite some time so let you get on with your the rest of your day. Hope you have a good one. Thank you thank you. I appreciate having me and And i hope to see you soon. Thank you very much. Thank you bye-bye. Thank you so much dr jean meridian for the interview and thank you to the listener for listening. Catch us next week on monday for brand new episode.

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