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Landon Collins Obsessed

The Kevin Sheehan Show

50:44 min | 11 months ago

Landon Collins Obsessed

"You want it. You need it. It's what everyone's talking about the Kevin Sheehan show now here's Kevin and Erin the smell test. Now ten straight wins Aaron courtesy of two lane last night with an all time miracle win. I had no business winning that game first of all for those of you that were tweeting me when Houston was up twenty eight seven telling me what a fool I it was for giving out to lane minus five how quickly they forget Aaron like ninety no last week. How many people gave you a nine and a week last week. Just hang in there with me by the way you'll never see nine. INO- again. I'll never do it again. Typically when you get on a heater like this. It's only a matter of time before it comes crashing down but it didn't last night to lane was down twenty eight seven and somebody tweeted me or and at some point rue grit coal on on they're gonNA run the ball over Houston while they ended up with three hundred twenty five yards rushing roared back they tied the game they took the lead then they got lucky at the end with Houston getting stopped and being held to a field goal and then two lane when they got the ball back with twenty seconds left. They ran a trick play. That was brilliant. It was they were lining up to two in the they showed that they were going to kneel down and accept overtime and instead. They handed the ball on a tricky he number two one of the guys that was protecting the quarterback as he was supposed to kneel down he ran for twenty five yards that set up an opportunity to throw for field goal range wjr listen when you're laying five. You don't feel goal you want overtime. They throw the ball over the middle. It's complete and I was like God damn they're gonNA kick a field goal but he broke two tackles and ran it in for a touchdown thirty eight thirty one to lane that was an old timer and it keeps the win streak alive at ten. I have another her thirteen selections coming up in the smell test here shortly it is a Friday football show but without a lot of the redskins game in preview because they play on Monday night against the bears but I'm going to start with some redskins news. this happened yesterday. After the podcast fast actually it happened during the podcast and we just it was at the end of it and we decided not to address it because really the truth of the matter is most of you. Don't even know who this person is. Tony Wiley is the senior. VP of communications our was in with the redskins organization during the show or towards the end of the show yesterday eight Tommy or Aaron. One of the two of you showed me you know breaking news. Tony Wiley is resigning from the redskins organization and he's going to go to the Special Olympics in which Tony the best and that's a hell of an organization and probably a much better run organization than the one that he's been in for ten years but only only with this organization is the resignation of the Pr Guy Breaking News in just like last year when Brian Lav Amina was fired fired. Neither guy ever made a tackle through a pass caught a pass through a block yet. It's breaking news when somebody in the organization. That's not on the football side of the organization resigns or gets fired. That's the organization's fault I mean. Obviously there's been so much drama over the years that there's all this reporting reporting about. You know recently all the employee's that left the office but I'm I'm seriously waiting for someone in a press conference to ask Jay Gruden. Hey Jay manual loss. Tony widely yesterday. How's that can impact your pass pro against the bears on Monday night like seriously there's no other place where this would be a big deal except here most of you have never heard of. Tony Wiley unless you remember the moment in the Dallas game when Colt McCoy's coming off the field and they're trying to interview him and you hear Tony Walk Up to the reporter and say no means no you know typical redskins bullshit shit like these being interviewed on the field by the ESPN poor taste. Guy Antoni comes up and screams no means no. He Yanked Dustin Hopkins away from a reporter reporter after the remiss the field goal in London. You know there we are you know. The American football in London Redskins are playing a game against the bengals in a a foreign reporter wants to interview one of the players in Wylie comes up and makes a scene a look. I will grant you and concede. This point that anybody working in public public relations for the REDSKINS has a near impossible job you know but they haven't helped the situation in recent years. I've knocked their. Pr Our department and part of that's been knocking Tony Wiley over the years. They've never really helped in these situations and again. It's probably an impossible job because you're answering the people that really have no pulse on what the right public relations move is in yet. They're very adamant that they know exactly what should be done so you're in a position as the PR guy you're. Oh you know you're working for somebody. You can give them advice but they don't have to follow it and maybe that's what happened over the years but you know whether it was suing the city paper putting out press releases claiming victory when the US Patent Office decisions came in that impacted the name issue in a positive way like that was a total total act like you've been there lay low. Don't say anything let the actual decision speak for itself but they're they're. They are putting putting out press releases and quotes from Dan basically with his arms raised in a V was stupid. Nothing was worse than the public humiliation attempt of Scott McClellan with the quotes that were leaked to the Washington Post. About what a drunkard McLuhan was you know. Even if that were true that was about as low road is an organization sation can get with someone who wasn't doing very well more likely than not and it was so transparent to anybody that was paying attention that it was a concerted shirted effort to make McLean look bad in the organization looked good in justified in firing him the whole thing backfired somebody you know in a PR department department needs to be able to talk. Dan and Bruce doing something like that but again I I would. I would certainly assume that that job was never easy for Wiley but anyway the fact there's any reaction to a Brian Latham Meena or Tony Wiley getting fired is totally a result of the constant ongoing drama at Redskins Park and the fact that this organization is abnormal in almost every way in a normal organization. Fans don't know the names of the non-football people people. Pr People Sales People chief financial officer the Chief Operating Officer. They don't know those people they know the owner they know the GM they know the coaches the players there's in some cases they know you know some other key football people a key scout or the assistant. GM or whatever I've mentioned this before but did anybody have any the idea who the VP of sales are the head of PR was when Jack Kent Cooke was the owner of the team and they were winning. These are insignificant names to fan bases in most the cases in the case of Lav Amina. We knew his name because the organization made such a big deal out of the Higher Snyder saying that it was fresh thinking and Brian's big ideas we're going to be implemented and he was thrilled. He had one of the most highly regarded. NFL executives in league circles I mean they built them up and they built him up because they wanted the fan base their customer base to think that Bryan Lav Amina was essentially going to become the face of the organization instead of Bruce Allen. who was you know a face and a voice? Nobody wanted to hear from anymore and there Bryan was last summer you know making the rounds bounds in the preseason games on television talking about the fan friendly enhancements at the stadium and how the organization was going to be more transparent and more accessible and and I mentioned this this morning on the radio. Show my God did the other station. soak it up man. They may they thought Lav Amina was the was Jesus Christ that he was the savior and they built him up into be seriously the guy that was going to turn around the organization gobbled that up Hook Line and sinker Tommy me didn't I shouldn't say everybody that stationed. Tommy didn't Tommy on this podcast. After Lav Amina Remember when Lav Amina admitted there was no more season ticket waiting list and and I was like Oh my God that's an admission. That probably doesn't make Dan and Bruce very happy. I can't believe they signed off on. This and Tommy came in on the podcast and said I hope that guys renting because there's no way he lasts a full year and he was right of course but I get it. Everybody was hoping Lav Amina was here to replace Bruce Allen which was never really his job. He's just going to run the business operation and and it was huge news when he got fired because Dan in Brusett built them up so so big and it it appeared bruce had pulled off a power play to get rid of him and that's probably what did happen although I don't think Dan liked him very much at the end either but the takeaway from the Tony Wiley News. Is that ninety five percent Senate. NFL organizations could fired their lead PR guy yesterday and their fans and local media would have barely noticed not in this town you know not in this town I would I recommended when they fired Lafontaine and not to tell us who replaced him and I'd recommend the same thing with Wiley. Don't make a big deal out of the people that have nothing to do with the football operation because you're just setting yourself up for a future you know new story because nobody lasts in that organization why lasting ten years is a record anyway. that's enough of that I also wanted to mention one other thing and I did this on the radio show this morning. Landon Collins was interviewed by a New Jersey. NJ NJ DOT COM NEW JERSEY DOT com two days ago and asked about his thoughts about Peyton manning being benched and Daniel Jones getting his first start as a rookie and Landon Collins couldn't help himself again did the thing that he's been doing which is running his mouth about his team. He said you know essentially she called Gentlemen Aligarh. He said he lied everybody. That's a man I do not trust. I would hope nobody else would too and I tweeted out. I'm like why can't the new guy shut up about the old team that played for their own to. They've got the worst defense in the league pretty much it's enough already. They're playing the bears. They're not playing the giants. Some some of you said well possess. What is he supposed to say. He's supposed to say I'm not commenting on that. We're focused on the bears the bears coming in on Monday night. We haven't won a game yet. That's what he should say. I mean my God since he got here. He has been so distraught over his ex girlfriend. He can't stop talking talking about the giants and gentleman. It's unbelievable to me how hurt he is that they didn't want him and how much she hates gettleman. He said what what was it three or four weeks ago that he's going to run over when he sees him on the field in the meadowlands. He's talked about the the eight games. That'll get to play against his former team to hell with those eight games. I mean you're in to get the bears coming up to me. This is reflective of of a no discipline no accountability organization and with little discipline and even less need to be accountable. The chance to win win is diminished. This bothers me. It bothers a lot of you. Some of you think I overdo it on this. That's fine. You're entitled to your opinion. I've never seen an organization produce so little but talk so much over the years. Never the Redskins are kings of as I've said it of over promising and under delivering it's just been one thing after another over the years and so many times it's the new guy that comes in and and he's talking about things if I were the owner after just in recent weeks right Rob Ryan. We've got a top five talented Defense Josh Norman. We're we're going to be an all time. Great Defense. Landon Collins can't get his ex-girlfriend off of his lips sorry about that. That was pretty you you think of that in any way you want. I'm talking about words spoken about the former girlfriend. I would personally handle this way okay if this were my team. If I were the owner of this team and clearly this is not been done I would gather the team and they're big auditorium out. There in Ashburn got a huge huge auditorium. Were they hold the big press conferences. I put up on a big screen. All of the examples in the past year of interview knows you know Oh. You don't tell people that you're playing that. Your defense is going to be an all time. Great Defense. You don't obsess over your former team and criticized the general general manager at the other team because he didn't want you. You don't say publicly that it's a slap in the face that you're running back. your your hall of fame running back was deactivated. You're GONNA handle that. You're going to go directly to the coach to talk to him about it. You don't like in recent years. you know say as Ryan Clark Arctic this is the Best Secondary I've ever been on in August when you're playing on a secondary that didn't include Troy Pol Malo that was laughable. Trent Williams and dubbed them hogs two point. Oh and said that they would have a top three rushing offense one year rex Grossman predicted in NFC title. The list goes on and on and on. I could do this for for an hour. They've been the kings of over promising and under delivering. If I were the owner I'd get everybody in the auditorium. I put all of these examples up on the screen and I would say say very clearly. If I read or hear one more thing from any player coach or anyone in the organization that says anything negative about any of or upcoming opponents or over promises anything about our team they will be deactivated from the next game and find significantly if they're a player. If there's someone else in the organization they will be fine significantly. This is policy moving forward and it'll be enforced. Our team is Owen to as a franchise. We've basically been the last placed team more times than not in the division over the last twenty years. WE'VE WE'VE won one playoff game in the last fourteen years to in the last twenty years the results of our organization. Shen disqualifies us all of us from running our mouths period. This is policy. If you ignore it. You'll be punished if you ignore it more within once. You're gone our fans. Our customers deserve better than all of this talk with no action. It's time that it changes any questions but clearly that's never been done. This is an organization that has that kind of discipline disappointed that kind of a a accountability that kind of self awareness they lack so much in self awareness of said this before they still believe that their fan base is right there ready to jump back in because they just feel that the team's been unlucky they feel they're close to something in the NFL. You're always close to something you could get that inside straight this year and win three out of the next four three and three reinsert facing a bunch of teams that Ranjit and Twain Haskins comes in for case keenum who's struggling and starts to light it up and then the future looks bright that can happen. It's a poorly run organization by an owner that doesn't hold anybody accountable with an owner and team president that doesn't at all make discipline a big issue in the organization with a head coach who's go along to get along a head coach that had a player on his team last year. Dj Aj swearing publicly criticised teammates coaches in the organization seven times told six times to stop stop it got you can't do that anymore. Dj then he does it again. You can't do that. Dj You can't criticize your teammates and your coaches then he doesn't for the third time a fourth and fifth time in six and then finally the seventh time they'd had enough it took seven public criticisms before they cut him and a lot of you didn't want him to be cut but you've got to at some point. You've got to hold somebody accountable. You've got to punish punish somebody who doesn't follow direction. It's not what the organization does well. I know this doesn't bother some of you. I know it bothers most most of you. I see read the reaction. We took calls this morning. I know most of you understand that. This is important. This is an important part of the organization. It speaks to something that contributes to their consistent losing and underachieving all right wanted to mention one other thing real quickly about the Redskins in the bears because I think there is a prevailing thought about both of these teams entering the game on Monday night. It's misleading in the thought. The thoughts are are these two number one that the redskins defense is horrible it is he's statistically it's a terrible defense through two games but perhaps that's leading Chicago to be very optimistic about Monday night as team they can face in the redskins defense to really get their offense jump started and then. I think the flip side of that is that there's this narrative out there through the first two weeks of the season that it's Chicago's offense is truly horrible. I don't think either one of those two things is true. I think the redskins defense is you know talented. I would love Jon Allen on to be back. I don't know if you saw that news yesterday. John allens injury according to Jay Gruden was more significant than maybe we thought he didn't practice yesterday. There's hope that'll play Monday night. I would lean against it. I think Quinton Dunbar's in trouble of missing Monday night as well. That's not gonNA help the defense. It would be great to get Jon Allen back though it really really would but I think the defense is going to get better. I don't think it's what we've seen in the first two games. I think they've played two very good opponents with two who exceptional offensive lines and I think the bear offense played to exceptional defensive teams Green Bay they added all that free agent and help in the off season to improve their defense and Denver last week. I don't think their offense is that bad. You know the bears last year were top ten in scoring the averaged over twenty six a game. They were top ten rushing offense. They were eleven third down offense. They were eleventh in points per drive. They were number six in the League league last year in Red Zone offense trubisky through twenty four touchdowns through eleven picks. He wasn't great. He was far from terrible. They've got some talent on offense on offense. Tar Coen can really be a Game-breaker Cordell Patterson the same Alan Robinson Unit of David Even Montgomery the rookie from Iowa state in their backfield. He's got a chance to be a really good player. I think that this prevailing thought that the bears offense is is not very good. You better be careful about that as a redskin fan to think that the defense can just shut it down easily and I think the bears are probably looking at the skins skin's defense thinking wow they suck but I don't think it does and I don't think it will for much longer. I hope not anyway. It's got too much talent. I will say this that if the defense gets torched again on Monday night there's going to be changes next week. I cannot imagine that Manetzky could survive giving up thirty plus and allowing sixty four percent third down conversions against the bears. I don't think he survived survive that now the only thing going in his favor. It's it's a short week next week because it's a Monday night game so maybe it would happen the following week. I doubt he survives a bad bad effort again defensively I think the redskins are in must win situation Monday night. This is a urgent desperate. Code owed red type of game if they fall Owen three. I do think that it's a house of cards out there that things are going on behind hind the scenes that if they don't have some success here real quickly. It's going to get ugly and it's going to snowball and this could be a season and I suggested suggested this was a possibility that could completely crumble into a two and fourteen type of year. I like their chances Monday night. Though oh I do you'll find out here shortly if they're in the smell test. Let me give you some quick information about my bookie dot. Ag Many of you have asked me over the years. How do I place a bet. I don't have access to a book. 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Ag Will Double Your first deposit. That's that's Promo Code Kevin. DC Caveat I N D C go to my bookie dot. Ag Today you play you win. You get paid. I can get to the smell test here. Momentarily the game last night was interesting from this perspective first of all Gardner Minhsiu the second had another really league good game you know he replaced Nick foles in the opener he's thrown now five touchdowns one pick and essentially two and a half games he was twenty for thirty last night for two hundred and and four yards and he can play you know coolly loved Minhsiu when we were doing all of the draft stuff in April he was one of the quarterbacks quarterbacks that he's that he suggested the redskins think about in the middle portion of the draft. They hadn't drafted a quarterback already. He's not a big Guy but he he can play in one of the things that Mike Leach had said about him is he's got great feel in the pocket and he does. He's got drew brees like feel L. in the pocket. I'm not suggesting he's the next drew brees but Jacksonville's one of those teams that I said before the season I predicted them to make playoff run that they were one of the non playoff teams from the year here before that I thought had a chance to get to the playoffs and it's mostly because their defense and their defense is nasty. They had nine sacks last night. Collapse Campbell had three of them Josh Allen the rookie who they drafted from Kentucky had two of them last night all right they still have you know guys like Marcell Dareus in Miles Miles Jack. WHO's a monster in Goch way at a Maryland all right the I don't know why Jalen Ramsey would wanNA leave this defense. I really don't because it is when unhealthy a very good defense Jacksonville's is and they've got a chance with a men's shoe playing well in DJ charge in you know four net. They've they've got a chance. I think Jacksonville does to have a decent season. They they went for two last week in Houston to try to win the game rather than kicking to force overtime. They lost the opener to to the chiefs. you know in a game in which foles got hurt. I think Jacksonville's a decent team. They play my broncos next week so they got the next week. That will be sort of an early season elimination game. No I'm exaggerating there but he's impressive their defenses. This is impressive and I just don't know why Jalen Ramsey would wanNA leave that team a but I also don't know why Jacksonville would play him last night if they're trying to trade him. That's that's pretty risky all right one more thing before we get to the smell test in that is this Antonio Brown's story which has come about late last night Robert Robert Clem Co who wrote the story in sports illustrated which I suggested all of you read. It's a story about this second accuser. This woman this artist who was asked asked and contracted by Brown to paint a mural of him in his house and then the alleged sexual misconduct with him while she was painting in his house else. That's part of the story but there's a lot more of the Clem Co Story in sports illustrated earlier this week. It really paints the picture of a bad guy. You know troubled guys we all. I know but a bad guy but anyway late last night. CLEM CO begins to post tax messages that Antonio Brown has sent to this woman this artist who who was a big part of close story so Antonio Brown Starts Texter in a you know in in what many would would certainly deem to be deep in intimidating threatening way how stupid of it of him is it t- to send her these text messages and not think they're not going to get out. I'm he's just such an idiot but if you read through the tax you know it's a subjective thing as to how intimidating how threatening you believe if they actually are. Brown encourages others in the group tax. He's got four other numbers on this text chain with this woman these the series of texts that he sends this woman and these are four numbers that apparently she's not familiar with and he's encouraging those other people on the text chain to investigate her. I'm describing her as a super broke girl meaning that she's coming after his money that she wants money asking someone he refers I to his Eric be to look up her background history. Then he sends a screen shot of an instagram photo she had posted showing the faces cases of her young children and he writes those her kids. She's awful broke clearly so these are not nice. Nice tweets they are in could be construed certainly with four other numbers on it and the the push for people to investigate her look up her background history and then and showing faces of her young children these certainly could be deemed to be intimidating and threatening CLEM CO believes that they are a lot of people believe believe they are now we'll find out if the league believes that they are because if they deem these text messages to this woman to be intimidating and threatening then then it more likely than not would be violation of the NFL's personal conduct policy. You know the the so we'll see what the NFL comes up with here. Mike I guess is if I had to wager. This is going to be the first nail in his coffin. He's not going to play Sunday. When the Patriots play the jets. They certainly don't need them against this jet team. They're twenty two and a half point favorites. a lot of you thought it would work out. New England by the way he had his first press conference yesterday and was perfect didn't say anything anything made the required couple of minutes of answering questions didn't say anything controversial and then he went home and started sending her these text messages a lot of you thought it would work out. It's Bella Chick. It's the the Patriots Brady's on board with this thing. This guy's a different different cat. He is so troubled old he is truly in idiot. and he's got major issues and he's a bad guy. I mean read all of the stuff. We know what happened. Bend over the summer. You know we know the complete bizarre behavior that he was involved with the chances he makes it. A full season with the Patriots Treats Erin. I it's it's less than fifty fifty and now it's probably much less than fifty fifty all right. Let's get to the smell test. Kevin Kevin Looks with a John Q. Public is putting their cash and does the opposite talk all right the smell test for those of you who who are new to it is just a you know a contrarian handicapping philosophy. You know if most people are betting on one team you take the opposite side. You know when everybody loves the stock. Thank you shorted when everybody is selling stock you start buying up is much of it as you can. It's a contrarian view which I basically have about everything in my life pretty much That's the smell test last week. There were a couple of really good examples of the smell test that I want to describe for you because I think it'll help some some of those. some of you who each week say. I still don't get it like there are people. I work with the radio station. That's still don't get it but mack Brown had started started off at North Carolina to know they'd beat South Carolina in Miami and they went to wake forest last night and they were an underdog to wake forest the three point underdog and literally I had a friend text me last week and said and by the way this is a friend of mine that bets a lot and loses and he said explain to me how North Carolina is a three point underdog against wake forest when they're to know everybody's excited about Mack Brown they beat to decent teams in South Carolina in Miami and I just said to him because they're going to lose the game by more than three. That's why and they did you know everybody was on Carolina. I gave out wake forest sti- bet wake forest personally and that's what it is. It doesn't always work if it did. I wouldn't be telling you about it but over the last thirteen eighteen years of doing the smell test on radio or on a podcast. I've won ten of those thirteen years. I've had a winning record in the three years that I haven't. It's just barely missed missed. Getting over fifty percent last week was a perfect nine and a week Erin. I've had undefeated weeks before I don't. I think I've ever had a nine and a week before and I think I told you this and maybe I mentioned this on the Monday podcast. Personally I went fifteen one in one on all all of my bets and wagers last week and that's one of the best weekends I have ever had yes. My Guy was forced to pay me this week. It was very nice. No pretty damn good can't really beat nine in Oak Ken you some fifteen and seven on the year I actually sixteen and seven because of two lane last night coming coming in and I gave them out yesterday so sixteen and seven overall in the year hitting at nearly seventy percent. What are the Chances Aaron. You think I'll end up at seventy percent not great no chances. I'll end up at seventy percent or about five percent. I would put it at by the way if you're listening to this podcast last week. When Stanford Steve Scott's sidekick on his sportscenter came on Steve's one of my favorite people on the planet the two of US combined in our are picks on the show last week fifteen zero and one is we gave out. Ask anybody who bets on Sports Aaron. Does that's impossible to do basically yeah. Let's get to the weekend board which actually I like which should be a reason to run from. These picks as fast as you can. Trust me when you're on a heater like this one. I'm that I'm on right now. It will turn the other way. I just hope it doesn't turn this weekend all right. Let's start with tonight. Utah's ranked eleven in the country. Some people believe the Utah Will Win the PAC twelve and be a playoff team. Some people do believe that their defense is really elite southern outhern CAL's coming off a loss last week at Byu. They could have won that game. they're starting the freshman quarterback because jt. Daniels got hurt a few weeks ago. He's out for the year. Utah's just a three and a half point favorite in L. A. Heavy Heavy Public Action on UTAH. I'll take USC plus the three and a half. Let's go the early twelve noon window tomorrow because they're too big ten teams out of the State of Michigan that I like a lot. The public loves northwestern Western against Michigan State getting nine. He let me just mentioned the thing about the two games that I'm GONNA mention now. Michigan state plus three and a half Michigan state minus nine there there are two stories about this game that have gotten way too much ink and I think they've been put out there with the intention of steering the public in the wrong direction direction Aaron one of them is that Pat Fitzgerald in northwestern is thirteen four and one in their last eighteen games as an underdog doc. That's one of those pieces of information that you know. If you're betting you can come across. You may have to work hard to get that information has been circling since early in the week and the average better is eating it up. Michigan State's a nine point favorite. That's a lot for team by the way this this gorgeous seven points last week against Arizona. State public's playing northwestern. I'll take Michigan state lay the nine by the way Sparty has a great defense one of the best defense in the country. I think they win the game. Something like twenty four to seven twenty four to ten. I think they win it and cover so the Michigan Winging Michigan game has a similar narrative. That's been put out there similar set of facts. That's created this narrative out there. The fact is this. The Jim Harbaugh is owing six Michigan as an underdog has not won one game as an underdog and he's two and four against the number as as an underdog. The public is eating this information. That's that's been a big story this week. Jim Harbaugh can't beat a team when he's an underdog dog. So what is what's the public doing taking Wisconsin and they're laying the three and a half. I'll take Michigan plus the three and a half. I think they get a win tomorrow. Certainly get a cover. Maybe Wisconsin's got to walk off field goal to win by three. Let's get to the three thirty window. Everybody knows Florida. State isn't Florida estate anymore. Willie TAGGART's in huge trouble in Tallahassee. He's one and two they could be. Owen three and yet they're favored tomorrow by six and a half at home against Louisville. Nobody's backing Florida state in this one. That's why I will Florida state minus the six and a half played against North Carolina last week. I'M GONNA play against North Carolina again this week. Appalachian State so APP state you know played Penn state really close last year. They're only getting two and a half left in this game against Carolina by the way that two and a half reeks because if it were three and a half I think differently but not that much differently. It's like what they're saying is all. North Carolina has to do is win by field. I'll take Appalachian state plus. The two and a half Missouri's Ling a huge number South Carolina nine South Carolina was the smell test selection last week and they got the back door late cover against Obama but here in Scott mentioned this yesterday on the radio show here's the deal with with teams after they play Alabama or Lsu. They are beat up there. Physically spent in the following week usually doesn't work out very well. They need two weeks off and South Carolina didn't get them. That's why Missouri's and nine point favorite and that's why they are going to roll tomorrow and beat South Carolina by a lot by the way ahead Missouri a few weeks ago against West Virginia laying a big number and they rolled to an easy win. I like West Virginia this weekend. I feel badly told mountaineer fans is that it was going to be a long season and then last week I actually liked. West Virginia almost gave him out as a smell test pick. I wished I had they. They rolled to a forty four twenty seven win over. NC State and all the sudden. Maybe they're a little bit better than we thought meantime. They're playing Kansas in Lawrence. Less smiles is the coach in Kansas. They went to Chestnut Hill last week and beat the living hell out of Boston College. So there's a lot of optimism in Lawrence about less miles in Kansas Kansas West Virginia's lane four and a half the public's on the Jayhawks. Give me the mountaineers minus actually the five and a half that number is now five and a half on covers dot com which is where we use the lines for the smell test on the Friday covers dot com lines. I really like organ this year. I think Stanford stinks. I'm I'm going to take Stanford plus the ten and a half against the ducks that number is too low. Oregon's really good. Stanford Got Crush last week by UCF. I think Stanford always seems to figure out Oregon when they play them. I'll take the cardinal plus ten and a half this next one don't ask any questions is just trust me. Take Texas state laying the three right. It's the first time they've ever been favored against an F. B. S. team and they are playing Georgia state. Take them laying. The three Oklahoma state's always good as an underdog there playing Texas tomorrow the number six and a half by it to seven seven by the way just like I should have told you to buy Appalachian State two three from two and a half take Oklahoma state plus the six and a half bite the seven than Tun of sharp money on Oak St for tomorrow's game and then one more college game. If all of us all else fails you got a late night game. Take Utah State late laying the four four at undefeated San Diego State. I liked them. Utah state minus four again another team with some sharp money on it. I almost gave out pit versus. UCF IF I bet you like him don't you. I'm actually looking western Michigan Circus. I thought about that one too yeah. They're they're getting a short number against. Syracuse pits a Lien against ucf the F. Western michigans a lean-to against Syracuse but not an official play I three. NFL picks Denver's team. If you've been listening you know I like they should be one one in one they were robbed last week by an outrageously bad call and a roughing the passer call by the way. Did you see Tom Brady's tweets during the game last night brady sick thicket of penalties saying that they they shouldn't be penalties. One of them came one of those tweets came after a very questionable roughing the passer call between roughing the passer and holdings up what sixty four percents eighty six percents savings up. He's right in in these roughing the passers. I mean good God you. They gotta fix this. It is insufferable and painful to watch quarterbacks. Get tackled normally or get hit. Jest is the ball's released and here comes. You know the flags I like Denver. They should be one one. They got robbed last week. I like Denver because I think they've got a really good defense and I think they're going to be playing this this week. you know a game in which I think the public is is convinced the packers back. I think they're into the packers right now to start start. Denver's getting seven and a half the public's on Green Bay Gimme the broncos plus the seven half the biggest public play the weekend is Seattle Lane laying four and a half Sunday against the saints without drew brees. I'll take the saints Teddy Bridgewater and take the four and a half points at Seattle and then Sunday night. It's Cleveland Short Week. I hate that but they're getting three Sunday night against the rams very interested in this game to watch it to see what the the browns defense looks like against the rams offense because I think the browns defense is extremely talented. Garrett's monster and could be the MVP defensively this year but you know they had that result in the opener against Tennessee where they gave up forty three points were some turnovers in that game that helped out obviously and that's one of the reasons nations that week one is always overrated and we always overreact to it. I think Cleveland's really good defensively. I think they figure out a way to cover in and more likely than not win outright Sunday night against the rams. I'm not giving the redskins out as an official pick on Monday night plus the four against Chicago. I will give a lean towards the redskins but there's been sharp money on the bears in the last twenty four hours and I'm concerned about this game in that. I think there's a lot going on out there and this. Is You know desperation time urgency time if things don't go well early early in this game and they had the last two weeks the first two weeks of the season things have gone well early but if they don't. I think this could really begin a process of the season ending very quickly at Owen three again. I'm going to play the Redskins plus four based on sort of a contrarian Rian feel. I'm not giving it out because there is sharp money in Chicago but the public money is on the bears as well so I lean Redskins plus forum hesitant to give it out there. There was a smell test. Pick for a lot of reasons recapping the smell test. I think there are when all said done fourteen picks if you include two lane from last night. USC Tonight Plus Three and a half Michigan state minus nine Michigan Plus Three and a half Florida state minus six and a half APP state plus two WHO IN HALF MISSOURI MINUS Nine West Virginia minus five and a half Stanford plus ten and a half Texas State Lang three oaks state plus six and a half Utah state minus four. I don't think I forgot one and then Sunday Denver plus seven and a half saints aints plus four and a half and the browns plus three. I think that should be fourteen total ten on Saturday three on Sunday and then the two lane play away we'll look at we'll we'll go back and make sure we got that right but that should be it. all right one last thing in that is just to go through a a couple of the things that. I'm interested in watching on Sunday in particular. The best game of the weekend is Baltimore Kansas City. That is a really interesting game game. I am not subscribing yet to the theory that it is the first or would be the second actually because they played last year. Some people are calling it the the new peyton manning versus Tom. Brady you know Lamar Jackson versus Patrick Mahomes. I think Lamar Jackson is very intriguing player and the way that John Harbaugh and company used them last year to make that run with a great defense to get into the postseason was really cool to watch. He's been very good so far. In two games this year they have also played Miami who's given up and Arizona. He is a different player than Peyton or Brady or Mahomes Mahomes to me. Definitely is a guy. That's got a chance to be a great. He's already gotten off to an incredible start. It is an explosive offense. He makes every single throw. He makes every single throw with anticipation. Jackson's different sprint Jackson is a run threes dual threat quarterback but he's proven that he can throw it to he doesn't throw with great anticipation though he is definitely a the guy. That's got to wait to see it. Come open before he throws it but he's also a guy that can wait for guys to come open because he's able to create so much extra drik time. It's a great matchup on Sunday. If you forced meet to play the game I think I would play ball more plus the five and a half if you force me to play it couple of other games from Sunday. I'm really interested in seeing the Lions at Philadelphia. I think Detroit's underrated. Somebody mentioned a few weeks ago. I I love Detroit teams at it's actually not Detroit teams. I've just been a fan of Matt Stafford in the Lions in recent years and they underperformed last year. They had a lot of injuries. They've got some talent. Golladay looks like a star I like Matt Stafford. I've always liked Matt Stafford. That's an interesting game. They're getting less than touchdown at Philadelphia. I actually liked their chances. Detroit's chances to win the game outright. I also think there are a couple of other teams that are interesting to watch. First of all San Francisco is to know they've beaten Tampa in Cincinnati. They get Pittsburgh without Ben Rothlisberger so it's Mason Rudolph who if you talked to steeler fans really believe in Mason in Rudolph. I can't imagine they believe in him as much as they believe in. Big Ben but the forty niners are laying six and a half in out out in Santa Santa Clara against the steelers. I Lean steelers personally in that game again under these are smell tests picks except for the ones that gave out I don't believe in the niners I don't believe in the niners. I think that they are still maybe a year away. They still need a little bit more on both sides of the ball. We'll see though this and they can get to three and and they're catching the schedule perfectly right. They open up with Tampa. Tampa turns it over a bunch it at times last last week. They get a bad team in Cincinnati this week. They get Pittsburgh without Rothlisberger will after that it's browns and rams the next two weeks for the forty niners so hello chance to get the three and I am interested in in seeing what they've got the best games of the weekend. Notre Dame Georgiana Saturday night is a great game Georgia's length fourteen and a half. That's a lot of points. Notre Dame can really score book is good quarterback. Georgia though is certainly certainly in that group with Bama and Lsu in Clemson and maybe Oklahoma and Ohio state. This is a huge playoff implication game Saturday night in Athens. It's the the toughest ticket of the weekend in any football game at the professional level or college level I would lean notre dame plus the fourteen and a half This is a huge game. If Notre Dame wins this game they are now a you know a legitimate playoff possibility and Georgia's expected to win this game but to keep them in that playoff mode they have to have it big game and that'll follow a couple of big afternoon Games certainly the early game between Michigan in in Wisconsin would be very much in my mind's eye in the limitation game for the playoff you know Michigan. Wisconsin has a chance to be in the big ten title game even if they lose to Michigan Michigan. You know is a lot of pressure on harbaugh. I think you know in Ann Arbor. the the the team that loses this more likely than not is going to is not going to be in the playoff as a one loss team more likely than not teams on upset alert. I mentioned Utah Tonight Tonight. I believe that and I think Green Bay on Sunday. I I think Denver can can go into Lambeau and win. I certainly liked them. Plus the seven and a half and lastly a few players to keep an eye on on Sunday how about Mason Rudolph just in general the the the possibility that Rudolph you know is is a guide can keep Pittsburgh relevant. Keep them in the hunt there Owen to they need this win. They've got a good team around him and then Daniel Jones gets his first start in Tampa uh-huh by the way I I don't know if I'd lean either way in that game the number six and a half. I don't like the game that much either way but I am interested to see Daniel. Jones owns play. I am all right. what else am. I missing. The nats have a huge series this weekend against the marlins their game up on Milwaukee Milwaukee continues to win. They won yesterday. The cubs lost to the cardinals so there to back of the nats but this weekend series against a bad add Miami team. It's almost like you feel like they gotta win all three because they finish with five against the phillies and three against the Indians next week all at home all all at home but this is one of those were somehow. They lost two of three. You know it's possible that on Monday morning they could be on the outside looking in yeah could be so anyway big series for them. Sanchez Tonight Strasbourg Saturday and then is it on Sunday. It is yes vote is on Sunday to be determined pitcher all right so there you go. They gotta get they gotta get three of these. I think I didn't leave anything out. I think that's it uh-huh. Yep aac congratulations to the mystics. They're up to two nothing in that. WNBA semi-final series and congratulations to delegate on Elena Delle Donne who's the MVP of the WNBA. She plays for the mystics for those of you that didn't know and she's very good and by the way ninety season. I'm trump. Did she really yeah Oh. I didn't realize that a hell of a season I fifty percent from the field forty percent from behind the arc in ninety percent from the free-throw free. Throw Line is a fifty forty ninety season hard to do really hard to do. I I enjoy the football weekend. I'll be back Monday. We will recap the football weekend certainly get you ready for skins bears bears on Monday night race and review us if you're on itunes or apple podcasts subscribe as well that always helps and tell everybody that were also available at the Kevin Sheehan show dot com.

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Something like that and I've got a few things I want to get to But coolies here with us at the top and you were gonNA come on with me on Monday because I know you have been enjoying the last dance and Tommy and I spent a lot of time talking about it yesterday as well. But you hadn't watched those final two episodes but you went back here in the last day or two and you watch the final two episodes and I think something that not everybody knows about you is that you were a bit of an NBA Fan and you were Utah. Utah Jazz Fan. And both the ninety seven ninety. Eight finals are featured heavily in these final two episodes What were your takeaways from it. I thought the entire thing was amazing. I I mean I absolutely incredible and the last to the last two a really well done I remember those games because I was because high school at that point. I was a sophomore junior in high school. And so I remember sitting at a friend's house and watching the jazz run through the play offs against the rockets and trying to overcome that. And and then the Bulls and especially the the second year thinking way Stockton Malone were playing and Hornicek and Russell ostertag A-. I thought they would win. And obviously everyone understood what Michael Jordan was. I thought the jazz would win. And you know he's you go back and you watch this series and you just realize the getting to know Michael Jordan better way. I'm sure a lot of people do the jazz weren't GonNa win. Nobody was going to be Michael Jordan in either of those two years. It didn't even matter if they poisoned him. In Utah I did think one thing was interesting. And then maybe I'll go a little bit that you that the Delta Center and the Utah Jazz Environment was one of them the hostile environment guy coming. You're talking about thirty thousand Mormons Packing Llerena. I'm not quite sure. It was as brutal as they made it out to be some guys games. It's pretty benign. Now maybe those finals were completely different. But that that to me seemed a little bit crazy. When Jordan kids came on and said mom wouldn't let go and ignore what Jordan kids in Salt Lake. City down you right now. Although apparently they poisoned to Michael Jordan's pizza. Yeah well there's there's a follow up to that story yesterday. Which which if you haven't heard about I'll tell you in about a moment but you know Utah in Salt Lake. They've had a reputation over the years of being very hostile. And by the way vicious with you know plenty of racial overtones to their viciousness over the years it's been a thing at Utah Jazz Home Games And but but when you were when you were there you said you did go to some Utah Jazz Games. Did you ever? Did you go to any of those finals games? No no no. I would have the money to go to those finals games. And I'm I'm not gonNA truly speak for the Delta Center. I just went to a lot of college. Football Games and Utah and played a lot of college. Football Games in Utah Jazz. I wasn't wasn't said but I'm just going to say it's not philly. Yeah right right of course like I think I think when people hear about how difficult and how NBA players view the Utah Homecourt advantage. And there's been plenty said by players over the years. I mean Russell Westbrook. Recently you know had an issue with a fan at a jazz game in in sort of went on the Utah Fan experience over the years. But you're right like most sports fans when they think about hostile environments aren't going to think about Salt Lake City Utah. Jazz fans are going to think about Philadelphia. Eagles fans are You know some sort of East Coast Fan base more times than not than Salt Lake but overall you enjoyed it I enjoyed at Tommy and I spent thirty minutes talking about it yesterday. I did it on Monday. But you know what? What was your favorite part of the whole ten part documentary? My Favorite I. It's hard for me to say that. There's an individual favourite part but I love the absolute astle. Jordan's would be to win. He didn't care he he was gonNA treat everyone like shit unless they stepped up. I thought some of the curse Steph was interesting in the last ones. Were Kerr learned from packs and you got to prove yourself to Michael Jordan. And WHO's another did Michael Jordan parade of the entire time? That was hysterical with it. Yeah barral and you could see the guys as they talk about my like. You could ski the Scotties love for Michael Jordan but as a also as understanding it was hard to play with Michael Jordan. But that's why we won. We I was there with Phil and Michael Jordan. And that's why we want the like people. Aren't that competitive. I played in played professional sports. I played college sports. I don't know anybody like that. Nobody will maybe. That's one of the reasons the team Schumer on. Never one big when I will tell you. Maybe my favorite part was I think. Almost the last line in discussing the Bulls Organization in saying all you needed was a match. And how did you not think about the last twenty five years of the redskins organization when you hear all you needed was one matchstick and it was Michael Jordan any change in organization? Football's a different. Because you got eleven players on the field players on defense and Michael Jordan. Can't do just that but that that I thought was a really impactful by Jordan. It's a lot different. You know in basketball one player can truly turn a franchise you know. And even a bad franchise at that because the Bulls were a bad franchise when he got there and he turned it around and turned it into a dynasty. But he so you know you didn't answer my question though because maybe one of the reasons in this isn't your fault. It would be the fault of those that were picking. The players is that you didn't have players like Justin who despised losing even more than he enjoyed winning arm. I'll never forget Gary Clark Wants talking about you. Know his competitiveness during the redskins championship years and he said we had a lot of guys on the team that hated losing even more than they enjoyed winning and he really felt that that was like an attribute a characteristic of of what you know the organization would look for in key players on the team. And maybe that's what was lacking at times. I mean I think Clinton Portis was with super competitive on the field. Who was the most competitive? Nobody was Jordan. Who was like to the point where they were annoying is a competitor that you played with anybody? Nobody nobody well. If you WANNA be Michael Jordan ticket it to that competitive level you practice that competitive level and and as much as I love twin. We're not knowing in Clinton won't is not going to pretend that he worked like that every day. And so to hold people accountable. The Way Jordan people accountable means not only after be is talented as he is but you have to work constantly to be that talented and he proved every day and talks it and practice and did anything to do to win every single day. He just did it any loved it. I hated the end. Though I hated I hated the the yes the mix up of Phil wasn't GonNa say but then Mike saying he would've stayed and everybody's saying well we could have done it again. I hated that hated Michael Jordan. Saying it killed him to not tried to go for a championship. That eight me like. Why didn't we do this? Why did that not happen? The politics of it is what sucks about pro sports. Yeah I mean. There's no doubt that that was for me going back to episode one. Like how did any responsible adult let this end? That had some decision making authority back. Then you know Jordan. Unlike Lebron James Wasn't owner general manager coach in Star Player. I mean Jordan wasn't even consulted on the first coaching change when they when they fired collins in and hired and hired Phil Jackson. But this was you know. This was a a A result of an owner who basically deferred to a to a general manager who felt like he wasn't getting enough credit and was insecure about that. And that's what really started the ball's rolling towards the end of this thing. I mean what general manager with a five time championship coach goes to the coach before season. Says you could go eighty two zero this year in win it again. This is your final year. I mean how completely outrageous is that. But beyond that. It's outrageous that the owner of the team didn't say wait a minute you're fired. Phil's coming back and his Michael described. We're GONNA sign all these people one year deals and we're going for seven. I get crazy that that didn't happen. It speaks to some extent a fault that that REINSDORF had in a blind show. I'm I'm I'm totally with you on that. And you know what? Maybe you can't pay everybody but I thought I thought Jordan's I I'm just GonNa play psychic here that if they would have brought him back with Ford nudes he would've won. I swear to you it looks like Jordan. Just sat there and went out with anybody. It didn't matter of one with anybody and I mean look at the impact of Jordan like stern talking about. We had what fifty countries when he started in eighty two and we were in over two hundred and fifty countries when he was done in ninety eight. All of the things that went around Michael Jordan Account. They just decided to let end. It's absolutely accident it really. Is You know you just reminded me of that scene in the final episode? I think it was the final episode where Stern is presenting Jordan with his most valuable player. Trophy and I'm assuming that was either a playoff game or late seizing. It would have been a playoff game because it would have happened at that. Point and Jordan accepts it in stern just looks at him and he says thank you because Jordan look magic and bird saved the NBA the NBA was flailing and was in big trouble. You know in nineteen seventy nine which is by the way. The last year that the Washington Professional Basketball team was relevant. Was Thousand Nine hundred seventy nine. He played in the finals. It was their fourth finals of the decade in they were trying to defend their title but when magic got drafted in the draft in nineteen eighty He he and Byrd basically changed the league you know but Jordan took it to another level Jordan became you know one of the five six seven most recognizable faces on the planet. I actually thought And I mentioned this to Tommy yesterday. That one of the the takeaways for me was that something. Steve Kerr said coolly. Which was you know? We never really got to know Michael. He Li- he was living essentially. I'm paraphrasing living a completely different life than we were you know the demands on his time. Were totally different. And you could see that you know in many ways and I said this to Tom. In many ways Jordan got along with older people better than he did. His teammates Which but but but but anyway I thought the whole thing was that made total sense to me so many of the things to me not living any kind of life like Michael Jordan but seen what I saw and only played nine years but seven eight years in you realize that players come and go and I'm sure Michael was close to Scotty but not as close as the people that lived around him and had to be around him every day and it's security team and his best friends and some of those people. Those relationships are the ones that we're going to stay players. Steve Kerr. He could've made friends with Steve Kerr. But they weren't gonNA be able to pay for Steve Kerr next year so he was gonNA leave. You know I just that makes sense to me. My first three or four years is close to a lot of the players. I think Jordan was as well. They traded somebody early. Charles Charles Charles Oakley that was Jordan guy and you start to sense that as a player like shit they just got rid of my guy and then you just you protect yourself for making those bonds. Sometimes with the players is reliable in Jordan. I think understood that maybe even subconsciously with the people that are back to the fact that you you didn't play with anybody that resembled Jordan and not Jordan. The the player Jordan the competitor and my my statement to you which is what. Maybe that's a re a reason at least in Washington that you never part of a winner you know I just started thinking I mean this has been the problem you know well. This is a symptom. But it's the chasing the wrong kind of people you know in players you know. Jeff George Bruce Smith Albert hanes worth like you know the owners infatuation over the years with straight losers at the end of their careers or just losers in general and and not understanding the the the sort of personality flaws that some of these players. They've signed over the years. And how that you know was destructive or certainly didn't allow for you know winning to develop and flourish. You know this is. This is the key to any business. Any sports team is picking the right people and more than anything else over the twenty years of Dan Snyder. More Times than not. He's picked the wrong people like that talent versus morals argument. But you gotTa have a couple of guys talent and morals and morals. I don't mean necessarily not going to do anything not going to drink a beer but going to show up in work there every day but those those players has to be talented after your best players like you we had. I played with guys a practice are James. Fresh works the way Michael Jordan worked he. Because wasn't Michael Jordan soon. Didn't have that talent. I mean there were guys that taught me how to work and there were guys that work hard in brand Kaczynski. My friends practises hard as anybody is just wasn't Michael Jordan. Was Bill Cartwright. Thank his best role guy so your best player has to be has to push people you know what else. I thought was interesting. Just the Phil Jackson method. You would've loved to have played for somebody like that right. Oh Yeah I would have been all all into some of that center yourself stuff. And I'm not into that in real life but I would`ve. I would've thought that would have been fun. And Look you get Michael Jordan to buy into what you do and Scotty and then you get Kobe and Shaq the way he did things. I'm just interested. Well Steve Kerr did it to some extent but I'm interested in how well that works now. It's also interesting. I couldn't do it in New York. Maybe he was just older and Jada at that point but well the well You know the other part of that is he. You know he had look Phil. There's something about Phil Jackson That was a big part of of winning as a coach. I don't think there's any doubt about it. Yes he had Michael Jordan yes. He had Kobe Bryant and shack. You know and in New York. He wasn't a coach in New York but he This is where there was something that he enabled him to sort of. Put it all together and manage people you know I. I mentioned yesterday that the best thing that happened to Dennis Rodman in his in his life was to luck into chuck. Daly and Phil Jackson his coaches and the reason that I in the reason that I would think that you would have loved Phil Jackson. I think some of stuff you would erode your eyes at but I think you would have loved the fact that he was always sort of thinking and willing to sort of think outside the norms. You know I mean Steve. Kerr's statement about that final team meeting. Cooley where he's got the tin can and the flame and he asks everybody to write stories and you know says about Jordan's poem that he didn't think Michael could go that deep emotionally and then he takes all of those handwritten things and turns the lights off and lights. The flame and walks out and Steve. Kerr called at one of the most powerful moments you know. He's ever been a part of you. Know there was something about Jackson. You know just people. I'm sorry you didn't need. It wasn't about the bulls ever winning again right. That's who he guy. And when you have a bunch of EGOMANIAC which any any professional organization is you better be able to think outside the box a little bit. 'cause they're not all going to be on the same. You gotta be a little bit. Yeah maybe maybe you do like. It's almost that charisma thing. You know that that intangible when they say you know they called the it factor would ever like Phil Jackson. There was something about him that other people bigger stars than him looked at and said man. He's got something figured out that we don't like he go ahead. No I just. I think in life whether it's in sports or in business. There's certain people that have that and you know people follow them sometimes blindly about the episode where he had Tony Coach. Take the final shot that Gotti. Well this is part of the conversation about pin here. After the fact Pippen's very upset about the way he was portrayed he didn't like this And it's funny because at the end of this. I Love Scottie Pippen. Maybe even more than I did going into it but yet but there were there. Were incidents you know the know you knew at that time in Jordan. Set it at the time that you know that basically first of all the the hesitation to to get that off season surgery where he was in no rush to come back for the ninety seven season Jordan was critical of that obviously the stain on his legacies that he quit on his team in a playoff game with one and a half seconds left And and there was a lot of criticism about his contract and maybe some embarrassment about his contract but overall I think what you learned about pippen if you didn't know this is A. He's one of the great players of all time. You know in terms of combination offensive and defensive end. He was a good dude. He was the one that was well liked in his teammates. New in terms of the two superstars. Everybody knew in like Scotty Pippin. I liked him more. I I didn't know as much about guiding but I I just learned what an incredible teammate he was and how impactful he was Michael Jordan. I get where he could be upset. I mean there's a couple of times where Scotty pippin look. At least compared to Michael Jordan know having to go in and get massages on the back and the last run the early where he had a Migraine and sat out. And I saw the I. I can tell you this when you know. You're as good as Scotty. And they were because almost made it to the finals without Jordan the next year. And what ninety five ninety six. Yeah I mean. They made a conference conference finals. They semifinal five games in pippen was a phenomenal player. But but Jordan didn't win. It didn't win without pippen in Pippin. Obviously in that one year completely without Jordan didn't win where he can be mad. Ali Once the Bulls were about this thing was about Jordan and the Bulls were Jordan. That's what it was because there's no dynasty. There's no ten part series that everyone in America watches. It's nothing without Michael Jordan. And you just can't like he wasn't Michael Jordan so after we got done talking about the last dance yesterday. I did this on radio and then Tommy and I did it. GimMe The ten part DC. Sports doc idea that you would have in to me the first one in Tommy disagreed. And I'll tell you what he said a moment but to me the rise and fall of Rg three in DC would would fill up ten episodes. I mean the Seattle game alone is an episode the Baltimore and Cleveland Games alone. You know episode the All in for week one off season is an episode. The relate the the meeting the the relationship how it deteriorated with the coaching staff. How was enabled by the owner? I think it would be especially if people were on record were interviewed and were totally honest and forthright about what happened. I think it would be unbelievable. A by the way. Not just for DC sports fans for all sports fans who would be great. And you've been picking this to me and I don't think it's a ten part series that time. Tommy said the same thing. How many parts is it the way they did the Jordan stuff. I just don't think you're getting more than four to keep it really fascinating and really interesting. I've been thinking about it because I said you don't one thing that's me is really interesting. Is the rise of the Shanahan staff and where they came from. But I don't know if that's a ten part series what I do think doesn't have to be ten. Has To be more than thirty for thirty. Would I think you could get ten out of if you could get through honesty and this person would sit down and talk would be what happened over the last twenty seven years to Washington time? He said it's not you know what to basically the title of it would be. You Know Dan Snyder's twenty year reign of terror in that you know how how they call it that I mean well you could. Is he going to do that? Well I don't know I mean do you have to do you have to tell them. What the title Michael. But he's got to be Michael Jordan in this series and I don't mean to success story I mean men character yes okay. That's fine but for him to be the main character. There has to be some self awareness about what happened to this franchise under his stewardship. No I I understand that and I'm also well aware that this isn't going to happen right because when you watch the the Jordan series everything Jordan. Says they go find a teammate. And they're like dipped. That's exactly what happened. Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep Jordan won. His recall of all of this is unbelievable. Here's recall of how he was going to play somebody. Nineteen ninety-two is beyond me. I it's insane. And then his recall of all of the events that happened all of the players and the personalities and why he did and said certain things to certain people in certain moments is insanity. He's that's crazy you'd have to have that level of truthfulness which I don't I think is going to be hard but if you could get it it'd be really interesting to see why why it went the way it did in how it changed every couple of years to why then went that way in you know what I'm saying. Oh Yeah I mean you know. It's funny because some of the ideas I had for lengthy documentaries would just basically be folded into this ten parter. You know like how how Jack Kente Cook you know why Jack Kente Cook. Didn't leave his son the team You know how Dan Snyder raised. You know all of that capital. Because he didn't have eight hundred million dollars How he raised all that capital as a thirty four year old to buy the team and become the youngest owner in NFL history to the RG. Three era would be part of you know that. That documentary Look you could do it without him. But you're right. It would be much better with him but it is and I've said this many times I don't know if I've said it to. You necessarily probably have. But it is. One of the more remarkable falls of a sports franchise in the twenty first century because at the turn of the century the Redskins were one. Had One of the most fiercely loyal fan bases of any team in all of sports and two decades later. They've got twelve thousand people showing up for a game and half of them if not more than half are rooting for the opponent. It's really an amazing deterioration of such a great consumer product with an with tremendously loyal following. So it'd be and we know that there are so many stories that led to this in so many events that led to it. It would be great. I think it would be beyond just a redskin fan base thing I think. Nfl Fans who obviously have seen the fall of the redskins over the last two decades would be very interested in your right. That in Tommy's right. That's that's the that's the ten part you know. Dc sports documentary where you can work in. All of the other stuff is part of it. That's to me what it is and ultimately we know how to have very from a close seat. I looked at it sitting back. The fans thing is part of it but in my world of being an athlete. How you don't fall into winning eleven games. One time in that entire you might not win a superbowl. That's hard to do you. Might you might not make it to a championship game. You might make it the only one how you don't fall into winning eleven games in any given year since a lot of luck that goes into schedules and football and who gets hurt when you're playing. I'm one of those years you'll want eleven games. It's it's incredible. It's why I it's hard to do it. It's not it's not tying together the right way. And why and how to me? 'cause there's a why and how it you know what I mean. There was reasoning behind a lot of went on whether obviously it wasn't the right reason but there was reasoning. Y'Know I want to hear it. Yeah I mean the the funny thing is the League is designed for bad teams to have that one really good season and the redskins have never had that really one good season under Dan Snyder. They haven't had it every other every other organizations pretty much had A. I think a a better than ten win season except for the redskins over those two decades and they've only won one playoff game. I mean if you want to count the ninety nine season which was his first owner. Hadn't put his fingerprints on the franchise yet. You know it's to playoff wins but there is some bad luck involved in it. Now you know you make your own good luck in you. Sort of you know Y- sort of make your own bad luck too but They were close to winning more than one playoff game in January of two thousand. You guys were certainly close to winning more than one playoff game in two thousand and five had a legitimate shot. There was probably one move. You know the could probably pick out a season like twenty sixteen or Twenty fifteen or twenty twelve in say you know if Griffin doesn't get hurt two thousand twelve that's a potential to playoff win postseason if you add it a better defensive coordinator in twenty sixteen. Maybe you're able to win ten plus games With how good the offense was that year. There were a couple of very closes but they never got over the Hump Right so you never won. Eleven Games but one year. You GotTa have good enough team at least in the season and you got to play. You gotta find a way to play teams. Have their starting quarterback hurt in one season twin eleven games once well not only that the the two ten win seasons required ridiculous winning streaks at the end just to get to ten like you know in two thousand five in two thousand twelve which are the two ten win seasons now ninety nine they were they were win team as well but whatever that I almost. Don't count that as a snyder year. But it was he was technically the owner at that point but in two thousand five you guys had to win five in a row to get to ten in twenty twelve seven in a row to five. I think realized that the chargers in overtime at home we lost Tampa. When we wouldn't with off play that we shouldn't lost the Tampa road in the season that there was some bad luck that year to not have that being eleven team. We've had a tough game with the raiders that we should have one at home games. We should've won that year. It wasn't we speak badly a bunch of times. There was no game that we couldn't have won that year. We could have won any game. I don't even recall you. Oh did the the Wellington Mara Game was the one game that year. I think that was that year that were that you got beat badly. But that was when when Wellington died right before the Red Sox went to the meadowlands and played the giants and I think he lost thirty nine. Nothing or something but but other than that you know every loss if I recall was super close super close you also came back from thirteen. Nothing down against the cowboys in that Monday night. Miracle so wanted to get something Next in in that is something that Ben Standing did on the athletic and I did it on the radio this morning. He basically came up with a way to identify the best players on the redskins roster currently and his way was consider upside current production and then expansion draft mentality. Like if you're an expansion team and you got to pick you know one player off of the redskins roster who would it be and so? That's what I sort of went with this morning. It's like presently good but also future going to be really good to who would you pick and I had a top five that I counted down from five to one. Do you WanNa hear it. I mean I do WanNa hear it. I'm just wondering if it's wave yet gopher well. I didn't know if you're ready if you're ready I'll let you go first but I was will i. I was willing to go first so that you can think about it because I'm hitting this with you at the without giving you any preparation time. No I'll let you go okay. So number five on my list of if I were picking players off the redskins roster as like an expansion team Is Landon Collins I? I don't think Landon Collins got enough credit last year for the kind of player turned into. I hated the off season. The preseason stuff of constantly talking about Dave Gentleman and his former team in the obsession he had with it. Bottom line is he was really good and I think you know you. You made the point that you know people are saying that. He's a versatile safety nets great. But what he what he really excels at is is around. The line of scrimmage and we saw that like I think we saw a really good in the box safety. He's number five on my list. Number four was Terry maclaurin and I thought a lot about what you've told me about maclaurin on the podcast in the past. Which is he's definitely a number two. And who knows he he'd be a number one for a lot of teams including this team. But everything about him reeks of sort of the kind of player. The redskins haven't had no while like truly gifted in terms of speed and route running ability and everything else but then beyond that you know a real pro at a young age you know. This guy is smart. He's professional Had some success early. He's going to be a good teammate. He's going to be a leader. I put maclaurin at four. I put John Allen at three and the two players that I had ahead of him at number two. I had drawn pain. I think you're gonNA disagree with me on this but to me Doron. Pain is the most has the biggest upside other than my number one player of the defensive players he is. He's super athletic. He's big he's strong. He's only twenty two years old and I just have a feeling that he could potentially turn into a star I don't know if he's got this same commitment. Level that Jon Allen and Matt Ionitsis have as examples of of the other. You know really good young Interior Defensive Lineman but I love the way drawn. Pl- pain like He. His FLASH IS BIGGER THAN ALAN Orion notices and then. I had chased young number one like I. Just there isn't a player on the roster even though he hasn't played a down in the NFL that has more potential than chase young. So that was my top five. Yeah that's a good top five. I'm going to go about this without looking at it in terms of position as much not contract of this year and Michael Jordan factor. Because that just changed how I look at everything Chase Young's number one. That's just I think that's an easy one. I think number two three four. I'll get a little bit skewed. But I'm GonNa Take Jon Allen at number two. He does have that bad ass. I'M GONNA call you out. I'm going to challenge you. I'm going to work hard. I don't I need to see a year where he's a little more like Aaron Donald to really believe that he'd be a number two on a lot of teams or number three and a lot of things down but he's got that get three. I'd take Brandon Sheriff. I just. I've watched him practice every day last year. And I didn't know I didn't love this. The system scheme that they were in and I I think brandon did like it but I think if you wanted a menacing guard who could just absolutely crush people in the run game and you start running some more stretch stuff and coached a little different. He can do whatever you want him to do. And he's a bad ass. I think at four. I'd take Terry and a lot of that comes from WHO? He is a guy knowing who he is. I what he stands for and how it works from better. He's going to be it. Can I give a guy the ball when it truly matters? Yes absolutely and then I'm GonNa just throw a coin between pain and and Landry towns. You mean or call yet painting cons. I if you had to make me pick I'd pick win. I think just because I think landon is more of a. We gotta win kind of Guy. I'm not I know nothing to run but I just want to see it daily. Am I right in my right about pain? Though that in terms of talent I mean you said Allen but that pains talent is pretty. You know that he's upsides huge. See it one hundred percent. They should afford to four. Three defense depends not knows. You don't think he's more of a nose than any other player. They've had the since twenty. That's 'cause that's how good he is right in that honestly and he's a hard worker. He's a good teammate. Good player this coming off the Jordan thing. But I'm factor in Jordan factor in Jon Allen has that Paint could be a big time do this year. Because he's not a knows he's not best suited knows Yup. We both left mad. I out of our top five. Is that a mistake. We're going to be in your top aide for the redskins. I mean the truth of the matter is of those three interior. Young Defensive Lineman has been the most productive. I'm well aware of that. Why is he so good? He works art. Is he the strongest player on the team? I don't know be stronger than pain. Free Restrung also got to play like if you put knows last year and Doron at and they might have been a little different but it does get a lot of sacks in passing situations and does put pocket passing situations as well as any of them all right last thing because I know you gotta run Complete this following sentence. The most random thing you've done during this last two and a half months of this pandemic is what q baby raccoons and my garage found three the tried to get the mom to take them back. Wouldn't so you're you`re. You're fathering baby raccoons in your house. You're being apparent to able. They both die. Oh my God they did and then having to explain that to my daughter and burying them I honestly. I don't know a lot about that. And there's you can't have them in. Virginia. But what am I going to do take these? What are you GonNa do with to Dale Baby? Raccoons the MOM. We found him in the barn the next day. We were trying to take them back mom. They're freezing milk and tried to save him. I don't know what what any normal person supposed to do. So we bottle fed 'em one died after a couple of of days and the other one made it like twenty seven days hadn't opened his eyes. It had been coffee. I maybe I said taking it to a vet. I didn't know if it was sick or not to be honest with you because I don't know what the can wild raccoon to a vet. I don't know I thought it was fine. And then like it was really weird. They both died within a matter of hours like when both of them went from beating fine to a matter of hours a staying up late trying to do everything. I don't know man. It was a weird deal It was really random. It was really sad. We tried our best tried really hard. Well you know what the fact that you tried in you. You did the right thing. I think I think Is should I just left him with the mother of comeback in Gotten Them? No we we left them for twenty four hours. I mean we left. Didn't they didn't? They left him on the floor of my bar and I found him. And if you put them out like into the woods or whatever they would have obviously been you know know. They wouldn't have made it then either. So you did the right thing. And that's that's what you tell. Your two kids is that you guys really tried. And it's sad. It's an unusual situation to be put into. But you did your best and you did. The right thing will understand that you know they were cute though. You sent me pictures I mean again. It's not every day that I talked to somebody that you know has pet raccoons and you've had legitimate pet raccoons living your house before you started to have kids Odd but what we thought we might get it. Wyoming. 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They signed him to a very minimal deal. One year just over a million dollars one hundred thirty eight thousand dollars guaranteed You know going into this latimer given you know Terry maclaurin and Kelvin Harmon. And what they drafted you know. There's the possibility cody latimer might not even make the team But he's a veteran and he's twenty seven years old and he's played six years in the league and he's played for the Broncos the giants and he hasn't had the true breakout year. But somebody likes something about cody latimer whether it was Kyle Smith or Ron Rivera or Scott Turner. Somebody you know. Saw something in Cody Latimer. That made sense. He was a veteran wide receiver. That got a bunch of young wide receivers on the team And he was signed well over the weekend many of you know he was arrested in Colorado For weapons and assault charges. At the time the story broke there was minimal information and then the information started to come out and get more detailed. The details included that latimer altercation and fired a gun after a poker game at a according to the report or cording to some reports at the house of his best friend now is attorney had a very interesting statement That came It was Monday at the hearing. Latimer's attorney Harvey Steinberg told the court that he has been contacted or he had been contacted by law enforcement. Concerning an investigation of sexual assault of Latimer's four year old son that was allegedly perpetrated by one of the individuals at the poker game on the night in question. Latimer was was arrested at three fifteen. Am Saturday morning. He's been ordered to return for July twenty fourth court date. He's facing charges of assault and second degree menacing a legal discharge of a firearm and prohibited use of weapons and reckless endangerment. Steinberg is attorney told the court that the allegations concerning the shooting incident occurred at about the same time and location as the alleged sexual assault. So obviously there's a lot more coming in this case and we will likely hear either more before July twenty fourth or we will certainly hear a lot more about it on July twenty four th at the next court date regarding this incident. But there's more to this story and I indicated a little bit about the more to the story yesterday on the podcast but I wanna play for you A bit something that appeared recently. It's a video on youtube that was forwarded to me It was Cody Latimer. Three days before the redskins. Signed Cody Latimer It's a youtube meeting between him. And his pastor at his church and Latimer describes A situation about you know taking his own life the night before Talking about his relationship with God talking about being you'll hear it he's a he's a confused. Young Man. He talks about how he nearly took his life the night before. But he called his pastor. His pastor showed up Was able to help him This is about a minute and a half from about a sixty seven minute rambling From Cody Latimer again. This is three days before the redskins actually signed him. I doubt that they saw this video at the time. And maybe they didn't know about the condition that he was in Mentally at that point But listen to it. You'll hear very confused. Young Man Who you know is struggling with his relationship with God struggling with you know depression and projecting there because he doesn't say it but the fact that he was on the verge potentially at least the he says he was on the verge the night before This particular discussion with his pastor took place and was videotaped You know he appears to be a guy. That's that's hurting right now or certainly was when this video was taken here it is. It's kind of weird telling you this but last night at a episode a while while breakdown like I say this is a she'll know mostly inside is so much going on and like I said my favorites tested not a last night. I was sitting sitting around just thinking about sad taking don't multiple times. Take HIM ON LIFE. And it's weird at this moment you know. I drove to the church down the street from. I'll I'm saying that you you know didn't know what to do. Come I need pray surrender? You know because I have a problem with when everything going good I'm praising him appraising but when things are going bad just seen the forget about it and let it go and that's that's not the right way and I was blessed last night. You know sitting there in a church parking lot. I'm over his life too much on. I don't know what I'm GONNA do. You know someone told me to take you faster. It's Kinda crazy wasn't at this church. I was at another senior parking lot in. He rushed over to sit in for me and talk with me and be with me and give me words of wisdom cry to him. I've been loud crying and I just told him. I think I've just lost. I don't know my purpose anymore. I never figured out my purpose. What is my purpose that guy wants for me? You know I'm so dependent on my life is being a football athlete. But it's like what am I doing? What is this really my life who I am that mom classified by guy? Just ask the right now. No that ain't it. You know so I prayed as an ex you. Can you help me find my purpose? It goes on and on. It didn't stop there. It went on for another three four minutes or so That was recorded with his pastor at presumably the pastor's Church in Colorado on March twenty second fact in the name of the Church was edge church. I service. It says on the Youtube heading And it was recorded on three twenty two twenty so march. Twenty second Twenty twenty. It was three days later that the redskins announced the signing of Cody Latimer in free agency And the Redskins as part of the story after they signed him. You know they discussed that. Cody Latimer's experience would provide some leadership inexperienced for their young receiving core And that's one of the reasons that they signed him He had played with the giants. Played with the broncos had not played with the panthers so there wasn't any direct experience with Ron Rivera or Scott. Turner with Cody Latimer. But anyway three days three days following this admission that he was considering taking his own life in the parking lot of a church. The redskins signed him. So it's obviously you know a sensitive subject and then you have this incident from over the weekend in Colorado And boy you know if his four year old son Was sexually assaulted in. Those are the allegations his His attorney has made a an allegation that that law enforcement is investigating that. That may have happened. Obviously any of US especially parents. But you don't even have to be a parent you you. I don't know you know. Almost almost anything at that. Point would be justifiable. I think a lot of people feel that way So this is a young man who's got a lot of issues in his life right now. I don't think there's any doubt about that. He's twenty seven years old And you know he's been a football player and he played at the University of Indiana And you know where I wanNA take. This in terms of the conversation is what the redskins should do. You know the Redskins are not one of these on solid ground franchises. You know we know that there is a culture change that has to take place that Ron Rivera is attempting to you know. He's undergoing at right now. He's he's attempting to change the culture of the organization from very bad something much better. And you know cody latimer. There's I'm sure significant sympathy for cody latimer. And I think Ron Rivera. One of the reasons he's respected in one of the reasons he gets along with a most of his players in has is that he is an empathetic guy. He does Understand you know difficult situations And works through them with players. Cody Latimer's not even been in a practice yet. I don't even know if he's passed his physical yet. Remember some of these free agent. Signings aren't official until a physical is passed but assuming that you know he. He's on the team. What do you do if you're the redskins like you've got so many issues? You've got so many things to solve so many problems to solve so many things to change this was a guy at best was a fringe player on your roster may not have major roster and. I understand right now during the time that we're living in you know the publicity. I don't think it's hurting the redskins right. Now they've got a new group You certainly want this young man to get help. You certainly want him to be represented By the best of the best especially if this allegation about his four year. Old Son Is True you know cutting him and then finding out that he was innocent of the charges and one of the reasons he was innocent of the charges is that the there was a a a sexual assault of a four year. Old Son his four year. Old Son you know wouldn't make the team looked at great if they cut him loose You know but at the same time you know this really is selfish. Is it sounds. I'm sure the team wishes weren't there issue right now. With all of the other fish they have to fry. But I'm wondering if there's a way to support him but not have him on the roster like to release him but to simultaneously say. Hey we want to help you in any way we can. You know if you need great representation if you need help you know if you need a psychiatrist if you need a psychologist if you need therapy. If you're not getting that we WANNA help you. You know put. It's a complex situation that they don't really need on their plate right now. They got enough of them. They they definitely right. Definitely didn't know about this videotape about this admission three days before they signed him because they didn't know about this before they signed him. They wouldn't do that. They wouldn't have signed him if they knew that this young man was troubled. In the moment you wish the best for him you want him to get the best representation. Legally you want him to get best help. Psychologically and at the same time you know being completely honest. You really wish you weren't your organization's issue right now. There are other organizations in better position to sort of take this on as a closer to front burner issue. The redskins have too many of them. Right now I mean I know it's harsh but I would certainly think and certainly understand if they're thinking behind the scenes. God why did we sign him? Why didn't we know about this before you know? I'm not saying the Redskins are the only team that wouldn't have picked up on this before you know who knows. I mean you did the the best you can in due diligence before you sign somebody and including to him but it's a difficult situation for them right now. The latimer situation. It'll be interesting to see how they handle it. I think right now. It'd be hard for them to cut him Cut them loose prior to that Joe July twenty fourth court hearing to find out how this court case proceeds. Now maybe there's a way with the physical of getting out of the contract commitment. It's not the hundred and thirty. Eight thousand guaranteed money that they're concerned about. Hopefully hopefully they're concerned about getting him help. But at the same time you know making sure that a roster spot is available to somebody that they think has a better chance of being ready to play for them. anyway That's the update to that particular story. there were a few other stories that broke redskins. Related Number One It was Burgundy blog. I think who broke this story? I thought Jp's Twitter timeline here moments ago that Antonio Gandhi gold and the REDSKINS fourth round pick tested positive for covid nineteen but he's been self quarantined and a symptomatic according to sources J P credits Burgundy blog for being out in front of this story on his podcast Basically I guess this was found out because Jerry Falwell who's the head of Liberty University were Gandhi golden played basically outed Gandhi golden on Fox News But talked about you know somebody an athlete at liberty who had left school early to prepare for the NFL draft testing positive. Well the liberty player that I guess was picked in the NFL draft was Antonio Gandhi golden so Jp was able to confirm that That information so Gandhi Golden Becomes Right. The first redskin known redskin to test positive for COVID. Nineteen he's not the first. Nfl Player to test positive for Covid nineteen but is the first redskin player to test positive for covid. Nineteen that leads me into this conversation and the report yesterday. That came out from the League's chief medical officer About where the NFL is on testing and cove in nineteen and a plan to deal with this and it is interesting and Tommy and I talked about it yesterday and I said you know all of these leagues have to have a plan to move forward with With positive tests. You know you cannot go into restarting season or starting a season from scratch thinking that a positive test could shut down a team or or the league overall. That's not gonNa work so the chief medical officer of the NFL Allen Sills Basically said that he acknowledged in the League acknowledges that more likely than not they're going to have positive cases that will arise and he said quote we fully expect we will have positive cases won't be a surprise when we get new positive cases that arise are challenges to identify them as quickly as possible and prevent spread to any other participants. Were working very diligently on that and we'll have some detailed plans at a later time Now part of what Alan Sills the NFL's medical officer said is that they don't want to be the business or the sports league that takes up tests that should be earmarked for healthcare workers or for people who are more at risk than maybe a younger NFL player and the availability of testing's going to be a huge key to their plan. You know we we heard Dr Fao. She a few weeks back. Say Look when it comes to the NFL. He thinks that they should be tested on Saturday. And then on Sunday morning before the game and somebody tests positive. They gotta sit out. They've got a self quarantine. Well that's a lot of tests you know. Four one team fifty three players count. You know another twenty coaches count. Probably another twenty five to thirty essential personnel. Let's just put the number two hundred plus getting tested twice per weekend on Saturday before the game and on Sunday morning before the game you know now all the sudden you need two hundred tests times thirty two teams in. That's for one week of play and that doesn't include potentially in week testing in sills acknowledged that they don't want to be the business or the sports league that takes up tests that should be dedicated towards more significant people in in in our in our world right now. Healthcare workers test testing available for people who are more so it seems to be that there are two things at work here with respect to the NFL and other leagues one the widespread availability of testing. That shouldn't be you know earmarked for another group of people Versus you know what you would call non essential people which would be athletes in Sports Leagues Number two is having a true protocol and a true process for what happens when there's a positive case clearly. They're not gonNA start playing until they've got a plan to deal with the positive cases that will inevitably arise is Dr Sill. Said you know what those what that plan is. They said they're still working on it and they're working with other leagues. You know which will face similar issues. And they've got to come up with something and they will have a detailed plan at a later time. But you know baseball's going to have a detailed plan before the NFL's GonNa need a detailed plan in basketball will to will need a detailed plan and probably hockey as well before the NFL the NFL will be able to as they have already be able to sit back and learn you know the NFL wasn't pressed into making significant decisions with respect to playing games based on the calendar and when this thing broke anyway Interesting stuff there as was by the way since we're talking about the NFL Something that we haven't really spent any time talking about on the podcast this week and that is this proposal that the owners floated out last Friday about minority head coach and general manager. Hirings what they floated out on. Friday essentially was a plan that would incent owners to hire minority coaches and general managers and the incentive would deal with an improved position in the NFL draft. If you miss this listen to this if this was the full the plan that was being considered was floated out for the purposes by the way of gauging reaction as we found as we've now found out Explain that in a moment but basically the plan that was floated out. There would be that a team if they hired a minority head. Coach would get their third round pick improved by six spots so they'd move up six spots in the third round with their next third round pick in the draft and if they hired a minority general manager they improved their position in the third round by ten spots. Now yesterday they pulled that proposal off the table and their say and they say they're looking you know goodell said we're looking into you know other Possible steps that the Lee can take to improve minority hiring. You know from coaches standpoint. Two years ago. Eight out of the thirty two. Nfl coaches were minorities going into twenty twenty four. So they're looking at this trend which is a good trend in two thousand sixteen seventeen. Eighteen twenty five percent of the head coaches were minority coaches that say significant percentage compared to the past so it was trending in the right direction this year for our minorities by the way one of them being. Ron Rivera and only two of the thirty. Two general managers are minorities. They want that changed now with respect to the plan that they floated out on Friday. Ridiculous like I mean. First of all it was not received well especially by African American or minority writers media members And Fans. They thought it was insulting that You know you'd have to incent an owner with draft positioning to hire a minority. You know most of the people that I read or heard said it should be based on merit. I agree It's also Ridiculous to think that an owner would be incented to hire a minority coach minority General Manager based on improved draft positioning in the third round of the draft. Like how wasn't that vetted better? Didn't they know that would go over like a lead balloon seriously? And that's ridiculous. Would would you really higher? I mean think of this. This hypothetical an owner says to himself. Let me hire a lesser candidate. That's a minority but I get six positions better in the third round of the extract. That'll do it or let's just say I've got to equal candidates. One's a minority one's a non minority. I'll dull hire the minority bees to get six spots higher in the draft in the third round. I think it's a very complex discussion. You know you're you've got many owners who have hired minorities you've also had Owners who've given up too quickly on a minority just recently Arizona and the bid wells gave up too quickly on Steve. Welk'S ONE YEAR Steve. Wilks got to be the head coach. You know it's not that we haven't seen non minority head coaches get fired after a year. Marty Schottenheimer got from cut fired after one year here But the the point is is that there should be more time allotted to almost any coach really minority or non minority. Now one of the things that they are working on with respect to the Rooney rule is increasing the number of interviews required before hiring a new head coach. Your new general manager instead of one minority interview candidate From outside the organization or inside the organization they want to increase that to well. I think that's something that everybody should agree on. Is that going to make the difference? Who knows but from the jump? It was about giving minorities more access to the owners allowing them to interview for jobs that they weren't even being interviewed for before and it has made a difference to a certain degree. Maybe not at the level that most would want but requiring two interviews doubles that that you know interview output. I mean let's get more interviews more exposure not only for the interviewees getting more experience in the process but more exposure to owners who could be predisposed to not hiring a minority. Not An easy answer there really overall unless you're GONNA to force minority hiring which you can't you're not going to do a private industry the There was some good news. Redskins related. I can't believe it took me this long to get to it but dexter Manley according to Rigaud in rigorous podcast which You can hear on Redskins DOT COM Rigaud. The diesel podcasts. Riggins reported on this podcast yesterday. The Dexter is doing much better if you miss the story. Dexter Manley has been suffering from cove in nineteen from the coronavirus. He was hospitalized on. May second there was sort of some. You know a discouraging news as it related to Manley over the weekend Darryl grant and even his kids you know talked about you know the alarm of having his father having their father be sick and having covert Nineteen Rigaud set on his podcast yesterday quote. He's doing much better. I'm not sure he was ever really ill. But his oxygen levels were a little low they put him on Oxygen. He was never on a ventilator. All of this stuff is improving as we speak. He slowly but steadily making a recovery against the virus. That's been ravaging the entire world closed. Quote that from Reagan's said that was really really good news by the way I would encourage everybody to listen to Diana Seaney. Who is on the radio? Show with this with me. This morning at the team nine eighty DOT COM At the at the team ninety and twitter the team nine eighty dot com the team. Nine hundred APP you can listen to it. It's right there in its entirety You know you don't have to get to it today but I like. Diana Diana's a hustler man. She is a really good reporter. Who's broken a lot of news Here in DC when she was on channel four and also at ESPN. But she told the story that I wanted to share with everybody and that is her big break you know she was here as a reporter. Dan Halley was at Channel Four. Carol Maloney Others Were Channel the time? And she was a reporter and she was at training camp in and she really hadn't gotten comfortable covering the redskins and covering football team which is something that she had you know. Minimal experience doing And she got a call from Deangelis Hallway and the Angela Hall called her to encourage her. He recognized her and recognize that you know she was just you know figuring it out and he saw something in her and her. Diana's a Hustler Man. She's tough Jersey girl who gets after it Which is one of the reasons I've always liked Diana and respected her work Over the years and have had her on the podcasts and have had her on the radio show a bunch but she Deangelis Hall recognize something energy. He called her up and he said stay at it. You know you've got the right instincts. Basically and then. He gave her a story. He gave her the story Of Him signing a new contract you know in those new contract stories are always news when it comes to the redskins or a a a big professional sports team. He gave her the the details of the contract and that was her first story that she broke and she sent back to the station and she wasn't even sure what she had That's how inexperienced she was at the time But it came. I think in twenty fourteen that he signed a new four-year contract was a four year. Seventeen million dollar contract. I looked at up. He had all the details gave it to Diana. Diana broke the story and NBC Four. Put It on there. You know I guess at the time maybe their social media account and and they had the news that night on their on their their sports cast in. They were the first break in. She said that that was the beginning for her. And that's where she sort of found her niche really as a reporter and one who got scoop and broke news. And there's another story she told about Tim. Tebow prior to going to espn she was being considered by. Espn two to be a reporter And they decided at the last minute not to hire her because she had reported that Tim. Tebow is going to sign a deal with the Philadelphia Eagles and he hadn't done that and get this. Adam Schefter the godfather of ESPN NFL News said internally not not attempting to embarrass Diana publicly by tweeting. This but he sent out an email to everybody. Espn saying this is not true. This is not a an accurate story and ESPN backed off. In the moment hiring Diana while Diana stuck to her guns she called her source with the Philadelphia Eagles and they said just relax. It's GonNa Happen and it was. It wasn't happening as fast as she was hoped. It had hoped it would happen and to make a long story short a week later. The Eagles announced that that that they had signed Tim. Tebow to a one year deal. This was in twenty fifteen and when it happened. Espn and higher. Diana and said good work and I said to her. That must've been a tough week. And she said it was really tough. Because you know and Tommy will will tell you this. And I've had a limited experience with this is well. Sometimes you have news in U. You break the news but It's news about something that's about to happen or will happen and in the moment. That news is true based on the source but it could change you know. The Eagles could change their mind. Or you know perhaps right before. Tabo sign the deal. There was something in the contract and that led to something else in the deal fell apart. You know doesn't mean that she didn't have it dead on in the moment but in that particular case if Tim. Tebow didn't sign a contract with the Eagles. She would never been hired by. Espn and Adam. Schefter would have been right She spent thirty five minutes with me on the radio this morning and talked a lot about Herself personally. And that's what we've been doing in some of these interviews recently on radio their games to talk about But she was a prolific prolific high school athlete in Bergen County New Jersey. And she talked a lot about that as well By the way one other thing too i Gary Williams on the radio show yesterday and I may have told Tommy this yesterday. I forget Demata it's funny tweeted this out earlier today Gary said to me that his biggest recruiting regret was not recruiting. Victor Oladipo added to Matha I think he had told me that before personally but never on the air but he told me that on the radio show yesterday but in twenty ten if you recall All a depot a senior at data that was the year Maryland Won The ACC regular season title graves. Vasquez is senior year land in Melbourne Eric. As their senior year. They got to the second round loss that heartbreaker Corey lucious in Michigan State. If not that may have been a final. Four team was a great second. Round game and Corey lucious hit a a ridiculous buzzer beater to knock Maryland out in the second round of the tournament. Gary said that he was in a gym at D'Amato one day And Chef Ski was there and Tom. Cream was there and I think I think he said. Jt Three was there and others were there and all the depot didn't play well didn't shoot it well and he didn't look like a very good shooter and Gary Williams didn't offer all depot a scholarship in the only person in the gym. That day that did was Tom. Crean the coach at Indiana and Gary said it was basically his biggest recruiting mistake and regret any said the reason why is that? He shouldn't have been influenced by Ola depot not being a good shooter because all the depot was clearly a great competitor and a good player in a in a tremendous athlete. But one of the things. Gary prided himself on was identifying the competitor. The one Dixon the Steve the gravest Vasquez in those players we know were perfect for Gary Williams. He got the most out of those guys. An older depot would have been the perfect Gary Williams player he would have been and Gary recognized it sort of after the fact and any any sort of beats himself up for not you know not recruiting depot because he sort of knew that all the depot was the perfect type of player for him but he let something that really had nothing to do with the kind of player the Gary Williams developed shooting. He let that influence them anyway. That was an interesting conversation. yesterday to you know the funny thing about that is that that a depot would have been a freshman in twenty eleven which was Gary's final year Maryland. He had Jordan Williams playing for him. At Center and Jordan Williams was a sophomore and was a tremendous talent tremendous. Talent are actually Jordan. Williams would have been a junior that year would have been his junior year and Jordan Williams left after his junior year which was ridiculous He shouldn't have actually no. That was that was Jordan Williams's sophomore year. My fault. That was a sophomore year. His Freshman Year was the year was twenty ten gravest his senior year and he was a tremendous player. If you recall as a what hands he had as a basketball player tremendous hands and feet and a volume rebounders. He had a chance to become a great college basketball player. Had He stayed all four years one of the reasons he never made it in the NBA. He had short arms is a physical limitation. But he's a great great Had A quarter of a chance to be a great college basketball player but all a depot in Jordan Williams together you know with Shawn Moseley You know they had a chance. They had a chance to be really good. Moving forward and and Gary May of continued to coach had he recruited recruited all the depot. I in fact I bet he would have had. He had all the depots a freshman. He would recognized how great they could have been with. All Depot Even if he lost Jordan Williams maybe he stays on Lastly Before we roll for the day I wanted to read this tweet which I thought was an interesting tweet and sort of A recap in many ways of the Jordan documentary on the tweet came from guy by the name of Scott mcghee. Scott mcghee Is a baseball coach. Willard High School. I think it's Willard. High School in Missouri is only got a thousand followers less than a thousand dollars but his tweet the other night got incredible traction for a guy with nine hundred and something followers on twitter all right it came after the last dance is final episode. Any tweeted something that you know obviously By the way I'm looking at right now. Close to fifty thousand likes. Eighty two hundred re tweets in two hundred twenty two responses. That is a pretty significant tweet for somebody. With less than a thousand followers in in terms of the response it basically for his intents and purposes went viral. This is what he tweeted. After the last dance Michael Jordan played. Jv As a Sophomore Pippen started college as a manager. Rodman didn't play high school basketball. Steve Kerr had no offers until after senior year. Meanwhile we have people trying to commit as eighth graders worrying about exposure and constantly comparing young age groups. Just get better. What a great tweet and great great lesson in so instructive for young people and parents of young athletes. If your kid isn't on the freshman team the freshman team doesn't mean that he is done or she has done if they're not getting the scholarship offers you. They you think they deserve to get. It's not over everybody. Everybody develops at their own speed at their own pace It really is true. You know nobody. None of these young people should be discouraged at a young age if they don't make a team or if they're not a starter or if they're not a leading score. None of that matters in eighth grade or ninth grader and tenth grade and in some cases it doesn't even matter when they're seniors in high school. Love that tweet from Scott mcghee baseball coach in Missouri. I we're done for the day back tomorrow with Tommy.

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C-Lo Is Still Plugging Along

Boomer & Gio

13:56 min | 3 weeks ago

C-Lo Is Still Plugging Along

"Kaiser is off the chain everything in one place for you. Your x Ray will be done bear. The doctor will see you there. The labs are there for you and then the nurses that work hugh at Kaiser. They make phone there to meet you. I would not be alive today if I had. I feel really really great knowing. There's the place that I can go to make sure that I can maintain good health on a regular basis. Every medical cases unique. Aspects to one away services we buckle in two, zero, eight, five, two CEELO is back with us, and he's got an update this morning in his could sweatshirt vest combination in his home that we have come to know and love so much. CEELO good morning going. It's going great guys. Good Morning. We're brought to you by sport clips. Sport Clips haircuts, all stylists are cleaned, certified and guys. SMART will welcome back Aaron Judge Guess He's all good stepped back into intra squad action on the second pitchy saw from James. Paxton yesterday promptly deposited it over the fence in dead Centerfield stiff neck. Doing just fine. No, no issues, no nothing. So no one hundred percent, but good enough to place was out there just to. Get some at. Bats in. Seattle felt stack. Still Not one hundred percent. He said that he basically slept wrong woke up, not feeling great in the issue was he didn't have full range of motion, so he couldn't fully turn his neck to see the Pitcher, and that's why he sat out the. Test! Test, as it may be I, guess. The swing is doing just fine. Because that was a that was a shot dead center off of the Yankees number two starter, so he's fine for now Aaron Boone said he knows the feeling having played through a stiff neck, stiff neck himself in the middle of the season before sometimes leads us some bad habits and stuff, but I was confident that he especially the way he was progressing each day that. That he would get to this point yet. It's always nice to see the big fella. Go out the front door, not so much for Paxton. WHO also served up homer to Giancarlo Stanton in the first inning. It was great to see those guys get those hits. It's too bad. It was off of me, you know, but I did make mistakes, and they made me pay. Which is what they're supposed to do, and they did a great job at. Bridgestone executing there, that's. That's Paxton. Yeah, I'd like Deer Garrett Cole Commerce. SKULD Bert and Ernie. Rats. Other than that Faxon was fine and Boone did announce he will pitch game two against the nationals in that opening series Jay Hap- Jordan Montgomery will follow in some order notice in on the fifth spot in the rotation for now with Masahiro Tanaka sideline. They could choose to only go with four guys early on depending on how the schedule breaks with days off even. Even though we know, there are not as many days off this season with the compacted schedule as their normally. What are the sixty games in sixty seven days? Is that about right that sixty six or sixty seven? Yeah, there's not a lot of time built in obviously, and you hope for no rainouts Friday. These teams I mean we're going to be the case. I mean anything's possible. It's not gonNA. I know it's not April or May. Get a big on going two months without any rain outside that. You thought you were saying that. We're not gonNA. have any. No of course comes that further complicates the issue where you. have no choice, but to play doubleheaders at some point. See Sometimes. Yanks are reportedly expecting DJ. Lemay, Hugh to return to the team sometime this week. We know he's been away with recovering the corona virus. They've got another workout today. Another intra squad Friday and then the exhibition games are coming up at the home at home with the mets Saturday night at City Field Sunday at the stadium, and then they will host the phillies coming up on Monday encouraging news on Jacob degrom tight back. Here's Lewis Row Haas. It went and got the MRI today and the results came out clear. I mean so. He's Right now we're, we're still day to day too early to say how that might impact his availability for the season opener. We'll have to see how he keeps responding on a daily basis. Now you know he's still. Has that little tightness there But you know that's great. News will keep us just paying close attention to the next day I was row hospital. Be here on the fan hours after he had met the media which. which at that point, the results were not yet in yet three innings at second base yesterday for Robinson. WHO's now back with the team? Had A couple of at bats in the mets intra squad game. Iroha said it looks like he's in good shape. They will ramp up his innings across the next few days. They did officially put Brad Brock on the I L's has yet to report to camp. You guys covered the Sheldon. Mystery bitter stuff there in the opening. You've got the conflicting reports out there, but we do know is the mets are onto round? Two of their bids to buy the team doc gooden aghast on CBS sports radio last night. He joined the JR sports brief wishes current ownership would have done more and more resources to support the team I love the weapons as people I just like to see them. Not necessarily eighty six guys. What war of former players and spring training kind of like the Yankees do every year. You have more stuff to offer your team. Why not bring all? You can get? I mean like you take the Yankees when I first went to spring training. You say Dimaggio you see Yogi Bear Reggie Jackson. Goose, gossage, Ron guidry on and on and on so you can take those guys brains and he put it out how the mets we'll have. John Frankel Mike Piazza in for a week at a time or so, but they don't use any of the guys from the eighty six team to help out their current players. Interesting perspective from him there well. Not Exactly. Available yeah, there are some guys maybe wouldn't want. Whistle Vice, but yeah. I mean I hate to say because I love Doc. Gooden, but he is a guy who he cannot stay trump. Ray. Has had his problems right I mean so. Keith Keith his around the team. We know that. Around the team year Ron's around the team around the team like you wonder. How much are they involved with? Actually being down there, you know talking to the guys instruction wise like a guest instructor situation now. Maybe their jobs is broadcasters. Allow them to do that. I'm not sure what their setup is in spring, training would have to ask how our that. One of those gary or someone true, so we know Michael Beasley through his six day quarantine in Orlando but Jamal Crawford did new member. The Nets is now clear to join the team for practice. The forty year old thankful for the support. He received across the league awaiting the next opportunity. Suspect is is what's really important in so for all those guys to tweet. Poured it made me feel really good? Thank before it. Really, really blessed and why. And, why the nets him to this particular team other than their desperate need for players? Young talented veterans. I think they have a great mix. I think Sean unbelievable job. I think the. Coach was really good I. Love Watching having being a farm when he wants me to come much. Talking about talking to your ass. They had no players and they called me. I'm forty. I mean Oh that is. The end of it right EXA- no other team wanted me because they actually had players. The Nets did not give me that the coach had two good Games. The does he know durant and aren't playing. He said those are his two of his closest friends in the game, so that was part of it as well. Obviously, they're not playing, but I guess he was watching from afar and spoke with them, and if you want to believe that, don't believe anything. He just said I guess but. That's all the connections as far as how he ended up there. The snitch hotline getting a lot of ink here we talked yesterday about how guys are apparently blowing it up and Jimmy. Butler got busted for dribbling in his room all night I did read another detail on that security I guess found him in his room in full workout gear drenched in sweat from head to toe, so he was really. Getting his work in the wee hours serious about it, let's. Now, Clippers head coach Doc rivers, joking that he's going to go ahead and used the hotline for some Gamesmanship I turn in Lebron yesterday. I'm turning in You Know Pas today. I'm trying to turn all these guys in I. Think it's nominal We're GONNA. Be The only team laugh when I'm done with this hotline. Obviously joking later said he's got no issue with understands the serious nature of responsibility to keep the bubble safe and clean. Was that during an interview somewhere that he was expecting people to laugh lame. Print I thought it was laying. On the zoom zoom press conferences I don't know. I don't know if they like close out the phone. Lines of the reporters are answering questions. If they can actually interact with them and hear back and forth, that would have been the normal media scrum that would have been the classic fake media. Laugh to those. Yeah right exactly. We're GONNA, turn and Lebron. A I don't miss that. Have you gotten to look at Carmelo Orlando trimming fit very thin. He Looks I. Know he had that one sequence with the Knicks where he like you know when Vegan or whatever and really got trimmed, but he cutting. He looks almost as thin as he did there in the series. It's interesting to see. A lot of people reacted to this time off for the last. Last four months. Guys like G and boomer used it to basically bike around the nation and lost weight and have done very well. A lot of people have gained a lot of weight and I fall in the middle, but I find like a really. Nothing's changed I finally. It's kind of few and far between. It seems like you've the gained weight of you've lost weight, and you've really attack the. Like. Carmelo has really attacked physical. Yes! Yeah, another guy who who ended up getting sick, but before he was sick, there were pictures of them was Nikola. Jokic of the lost weight to write lost a ton of weight, and then he ended up getting corona virus, but he he i. don't know if that's GonNa work out for him or not, because he was so damn good at that size, and he was able to bully some people. People around the court. I mean I I don't know if he's going to change his entire game or what, but he lost like I mean look like forty pounds or more. When I was listening to the audio this morning I think and I'll I'll for it. There was a cut where he was talking about that. I think he said he's only three to five pounds off of where he was. Look at the pictures man, no I'm just telling you what he said, but yeah. I don't believe it unless it's like a muscle fat thing I. Don't know but to me it's very. It's noticeable. There's no doubt about it. He looks he looks more like porzingas now than look like himself. Jerry GonNa say something there. I thought I heard. Grill, so we we mentioned how the there was the four PM deadline in the NFL for the franchise players yesterday, and like all day was now nothing. Prescott Derrick Henry no deals. You're going to get done, and then, of course you had that last minute situation. Henry in the titans, did come to an agreement for Years Fifty Million Bucks, twenty, five and a half mil guarantee the way I read it as basically. He gets a little bit of a raise over what he would have made on a couple. Couple of franchise tags which we know are guaranteed, so they did go ahead and resign him as long with Ryan Tannehill this off season as they look to bring back some key pieces from that team that went to the AFC. Championship Cam keep an eye out for this today. Apparently, The Washington Post is going to run a story at some point with with which further outlined some issues within the The Washington redskins organization, so we we know we've talked a lot about the nickname, but there are some quotes from. WHOSE NAME IS TRENDING? So I'll read you. Some of the yeah and I did hear some rumblings about this from a couple of guys I worked with serious no specifics, but now you have people that are in and around the team that are kind of making vague references to it, so you had one from Jason Lockenfora the warped and toxic culture of the Washington football team is about to get exposed. Exposed in a sickening fashion. You've got Julie Donaldson of NBC Sports. Washington who wrote what's coming is disappointing and said, and then let's see there's another one here, so it looks like someone from a local TV station AB seven. There's much more going on than a name change, and it's not good I did not get specifics would get ready people, and then the last one JP Finley also NBC sports. Sports Washington a real busy week, and it's not all going to be about the name, and it's not all going to be pretty, so people are getting worried about something that's coming. I don't know what it is, but keep an eye out. What's interesting about the timing of this was the timing of the minority owners that wanted out leaving the couldn't stand what was going on there and now all. All of a sudden a week later you have this I wonder if one of those guys are ones that gave maybe the source of the story I wonder with that I wonder if that means sexual harassment stuff or where they're going with that also read one of their, and this could have no connection whatsoever, but one of their longtime broadcasters just left the team within sometime this week. No kidding. I'm trying to Larry Larry. Larry, David. Again that may not it. SAYS RETIRES Their. Music fits that. Organization for the way they the last ten years says here he retires or stepping down so Larry Michael so I don't know again. That's coincidental. If there's a connection I guess we'll find out sometime man over the course of the rest of the week, and it also proves my point that when somebody is trending almost every time. It's for something horribly negative so when you see is. Is that when you said. Is that why Dan Snyder is trending? Yeah, it's not because he gave two million dollars to a charity or he saved Simone from a burning building. It's probably because something horrible happened. You know what was trending the other day I. Never figured out what it was I saw r.i.p Ellen. Did you see that another one of those fake death? Things yeah. It's another social media phenomenon. Where like somebody decides that? They want to make somebody dead. That isn't to have fun, and then it goes everywhere, and then people are so dumb that they don't look into seeing if it's true or not, and then they put all right p. l., and I love your show so much in meals, just sitting alive in her gigantic man. laughing. Well I'm glad there was nothing to that one. Yeah, no me, too. I guess I would have been no been. Is that it's Ceelo or we just waiting for Jerry to talk again. We're good for this hour. I'll bring four awkwardness next hour. Okay, awesome, thank you expect only the best.

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 Washington Post Columnist - Liz Clarke

The Business of Sports With Andrew Brandt

1:03:17 hr | 3 weeks ago

Washington Post Columnist - Liz Clarke

"GUYS WANNA. Tell you about something new. I've launched a patriotic count. ATRIOS DOT com slash. Andrew Brand people asked about getting more content more insight more information from me now available through various tiers. If you're able to join on Patriots, DOT, com. You. Can Get shout outs for me. You can get the business of sports. PODCAST transcripts can get ask Andrew Questions weekly newsletters, all kinds of ways to interact with me including. A monthly conversation thought whatever you WanNa talk about jobs in the sports industry breaking into sports. It's all available now on a train dot com Andrew Brandt. If you're able, please join select your career and be able to have further content interruption. Page on DOT com slash Andranik will be joined. Either welcome to this week's addition, the businesses of Sports with Andrew Brad got a good one for you. This Week List Clark of the Washington Post on that breaking story last week about he toxic and harassment culture. At The Washington redskins. Yes, I call them that with the Washington football club with a soon to be new name. All the things that went on in that Liz and or a writer at the Washington Post will oxen. It's embraced reporting talked to many people in and out of the organization. About what happened with that culture was how young women treated there. Hopefully, we'll have changed ahead with. What's going on? With the lawyer being hired, trying to do an internal review, hopefully, some systematic change will go on, but there's a lot of discussion about what you reported Mayan sites talking a lot about Dan Snyder the owner of the Washington Redskins or The Washington football clubs soon to be a different name than redskins. We will talk about that in the minute I. The ran of the week when we are now at the precipice. The NFL in the NFL PA, or having these negotiations, I've said it for months. This was bound to happen in here. We are a replay. Of? What happened in baseball? Will put aside the overarching question whether we'll have football whether we can have a sport that requires the opposite of social distancing whether we can have a sport when the viruses raging in hotspots whether we have sport where they're not gonNA bubble where they're going to be multiple infections. We don't know they're gonNA, be infections that required quarantining of entire say offensive line's defense lines the whole team. How do you have competitive Balance Eddie have a team all of that, but putting aside that and it's related. We have this two part negotiation both at the same time that happened in baseball now is happening in football. Health and safety which protocols we have. A mass joined coordinated effort by stars the NFL. Saying what's going on, we don't have our protocols yet. We don't know what we can do. We don't have an infectious disease plan here we go. That's still being negotiated. Listen contentiousness that we're seeing on social media. And number two the money. We haven't even gotten there. We hear about the owners warning forty percent reduction mostly in this year or this year next year, the players wanted to smooth it out in years ahead. We hear about cap going down forty million dollars next year have about bat. This is going to be a problem. No question and that sort of goes away while we hear more about what's the plan. What's thousand safety plan? You combine all this that we have a three part. Story going number one. Is there going to be a sport with what's going on overall in the country in different state regulations, different feelings about size of crowds if there can be crowds, if can even be staged games or practices number to a negotiation about what's the plan to play through virus? If in fact, that's what we're GONNA do. In number three, of course, what's the financial plan and people are saying on the players can just say Oh, we got a cap. You can't do anything well. Good luck with that. Owners don't I've talked a lot about the lack of accountability in these minimum spending standards, teams have they'll be cutting veterans like they always do. But even more and even more balanced. Will sway towards rookie contracts. If the players can't agree on anything, so we got a problem. we're in late. July people think that the NFL's just sat on this avenue plan working on it. They're not do anything. I need strategic I think the NFL is doing exactly what baseball did in running out the clock which is? Leading the time rundown until in baseball, the only choice players had was to play sixty games in order to get to camp have a little bit of spring training time in summer, and then start the season well in football were getting towards training camp. which the NFL seems to be saying? Hey, get to camp. We're doing this. So the players almost have to agree because it's the deadlines. GonNa Creep up on him and like Oh my God, we gotta get to camp buried apply. I think the owners plan. They probably have one in their back pocket. And lack of plan to the players, presentation is strategic. That's my feeling. This is cold business, and this will help them get the financial rewards they want from the players not reward, but the haircut so that the players feel their pain through lost revenues related to know fans, and otherwise so here we go. That's going on in the NFL Another quick rant at people continue about the mahomes contract. I know five hundred million ever says. How can you say it's not great deal? Let's compare to Dak, Prescott who's going through this right now. Dak Prescott can make thirty one million this year. Pam Home's GonNa make eleven nine this year. Dak Prescott takes another tag next Joe, make thirty seven say that sixty eight over to. The homes. Is GonNa make sixty three over three. Point mahomes deal I know it gets into these huge numbers later in the deal forty forty five a year, but come on. The chiefs can't be feel like this is fair deal for the best player in the League. This paltry number this year led nine dollars. Why do a deal for eleven million dollars when players get sixty seventy? You know Jimmy Garoppolo Jared Goff. Carson wentz forty something million fifty something million in similar situated players. Sixty three over three same as bridgewater much less. Than Ryan Tannehill. Ten million bonus. That's what backups top backups get. So I? You know I don't know what to say. A likely Steinberg like Padma homes a lot I just. Is really the chiefs. The chiefs had be feeling like what the hell you know. WHAT THE HELL! I'm saying to them. WHAT THE HELL! How can you make player? Take this deal you know is going to be unhappy and I learned the hard way. Lopsided deals don't work for anyone. So good luck with that chiefs that once these players are passing. passing Mahomes by it's going to be a problem lesser quarterbacks to be making more than him. Already are already are and he signed the deal. So. Good luck I mean yeah, it's better I mean. It's one hundred and eighty for six, which is thirty year nice average, but even deal signed a couple of years ago. Rogers Ryan Wilson better than that. In those deals run out. Those guys get bigger deals. I've said my piece on the homes. You know people love the five hundred million number. I don't think he'll ever make that but. That's the that's the game. Don't get the big number out there. People jump on it all right without further ado. Let's get to our guest. Wonderful reporter for the Washington Post who, along with well Hobson at the post. Put together this story that really outlined detailed culture. That included two years ago. Incident with the cheerleaders on a trip that really treated young women poorly treats young women poorly. and has caused quite a stir among league as it's trying to change its name, this is now what's going on with the Washington football club. My guest for this week's Business Sports podcast Clark Washington Post. Thank you so much Andrew and let me just say how invaluable my coworker will have. Sin was on this story just outstanding Tom so I wish he were here as well, but we appreciate you. Thinking of the post and I'm happy to talk about our work in. The workplace that I think we both have great insight into yell. Is I appreciate you mentioning we'll Hobson as well. Both you did a wonderful job in exploring this I just want to give full disclosure as you I think you know lives on born and bred Washingtonian Ian, and born and bred die hard, and I will say the word Redskin Fan growing up going to games with my dad RFK stadium in sharing that experience and seeing such great memories in my childhood of seeing them go to super bowl. Super Bowls one that we want against the dolphins, when that we lost against the raiders and all the way through most of my life before I, moved to Green Bay worked for another team, which kind of ended my phantom, but. I think to set this up what I have noticed from friends and family and fans over the past ten to fifteen years. How many? Of. These so-called fans have given up. Or have their fandom waned. Indirect relation in direct relation to ownership. And I think that is rare around any sport because I'm people tune into watch, owners or care, who the owner they wanna see a good team. If the team's good, they're cool may because the team hasn't been good as well but. Does my statement surprise you just the number of people that like I'm not I'm not into the team anymore or as much. Related to the owner. Now of course not remotely doesn't surprise me. I like you. Have DC routes was from a military family, so kind of came and went, but as a as a sports writer I've worked for The Washington Post now twenty one years twenty two years Gosh and in that time I spent eight years. Beat writer on on this team on the Washington NFL team. And and I'm aware of my city. My neighbors, the whole vibe, no matter what I cover I'm very aware of what's going on with this team in its fan base, and you know on kind of the most granular level ten fifteen years ago. So, many trick or treaters I would get would wear their team. Green, and you know Rigo you. Their favorite players UC none of that in that started maybe five years ago. There are nets, jerseys and caps Jersey so it's this team. There's a total disconnect with young people a disconnect with young parents who don't buy the merchandise for their kids, but you know the the more telling Wendo is. Go to any game tune on any game. The number of empty seats the stadium itself which Dan Snyder ramped up from roughly eighty, two thousand to about ninety, three, thousand at the high water mark has been downsized at least three times that acknowledge. And so they'd won't now acknowledge a capacity of the stadium much smaller. Also upper decks are papered over with signed edge. We've seen a lot in recent years. As many eagles, fans as as skins fans so. And you can go on stuff hub, and by ticket for five dollars, so no doubt I mean if you have a head for business or just. Just common sense. Is there buzz in the stadium? Is it electric? Do My neighbors envy me because I have these great tickets? You know if somebody bails on me? Can I find somebody else to go? It's like you really cannot Jim with. There's no cachet no political cachet being the owner spots. There's no vibe, no excitement so no, it's been. In it's. It's not strictly about the performance. We can all put a number to performance. You know haven't won a playoff game in fifteen years all different ways, but it's it's a bigger disillusion deeper dissolution that has to do with how many good people good coaches have come and gone. How many resets has been made every August? You know new culture new coach new, teen. It's twenty one years of ownership. Ron Rivera is the eighth time coach He's ten if you count to enter M's. At the moment there's no president, no GM it's it's stunning to me, but on coach. Rivera's shoulders are now on getting the product on the field exciting. and. resetting the culture, and by the way help design a new name and logo, and it's just preposterous what he has been tasked with, and or how the business side management side of the team is is is not functioning at a level. It needs to deal with crisis of their own making. The name change. You see that as related to urine wills reporting over the recent weeks months to CETERA. No so did pop. Yes, I mean both seismic. Don't get me wrong. Yes, discreet bucket, so I had always said knowing what I know about Dan Snyder and what I know about history, and how business works and how the NFL works I mean even when there was traction on the name issue, maybe twenty twelve thirteen fourteen What looks like real traction to a lot of people that. The name would never be changed by the owner or the League. And less and until. The. Owner felt it in his pocket book until it Hart the owner financially till it. Financially that this is an extreme analogy, but we I hope we all understand the history of apartheid in South Africa, you know it was an odious inexcusable system of of government for forty fifty years it did not change because of a moral awakening or an epiphany it changed because companies divested. They pulled their money out of the country. It was brought to its knees economically, and then it fell so much much smaller scale, but but an important one. If you. If you care about this team The leave her with the name change was quite clear. It was fedex. And, and certainly people are aware that Nike Pepsico Bank of America were quick with with statements, but it wasn't the one. Senate statement that Fedex put out on July, third that said we have requested that the team changed its name that that alone was seismic, not only because it's the naming rights, but it's a CO owner of the team. The same day. What what also happened is the Fedex lawyers writing redskins lawyers, basically giving notice. We're going to break this contract for naming rights. We're going to do that at the end of twenty twenty, unless you change the name and they didn't put numbers to it, but I know the numbers with six years remaining. That's forty five million dollars. In fact, it's forty five point. Six million dollars was it was spread out over time in equal. Equal increments so that is the lever that is what Dan. Snyder boom within twenty four hours, where conducting a thorough review of the name, and so I don't know if the other sponsors were as explicit in private letters to say, we're taking our sponsorship away, but clearly forty five million. He can't absorb the loss of that and so that was the leader of that had nothing to do with sexual harassment or or a verbally abusive workplace. Liz. Let me try another nexus because when I saw the news three weeks ago two weeks ago. That three of Dan Snyder's partners, amassing forty percent of the team. Wanted out. I continued. Ask as someone WHO's an expert in business of sports. I hope why why would they want out the names changing? It's worth it's skyrocketing asset. Everyone knows these assets very scarce, and if it's worth three billion nets of forty percent combined, that is about one point three billion. Why in the world they want out? Is this the nexus like they saw this coming? Your reporting and wanted to scurry away from the brand as fast as they could is still have questions why they would want out sure I think this is a fascinating question I think there's so much misinformation or leaping to conclusions that that are wrong. And No, they had no wind of this further reporting was not related to that, so though the one rationale we have gotten. This was three reporter effort to get this confirmed, and it was not easily confirmed it was a matter of days. The owners were not happy. Being business partners with Dan Snyder so. Obviously I have worked very hard as have my coworkers to put me on the bones in what way they each got in or got in two thousand three, so seventeen years of ownership over why exactly which is so so fascinating so I will tell you. I have not spoken to any of the owners at I'm not aware that they've spoken to any reporter but I'm not pulling this out of my rear. It says deeply reported as I can get from. You know people who who do have insight. I'm not come with Bob Shell, but it was much more akin to a slow boil of incremental much like the fan base. Didn't go from a hundred thousand waiting lists. You can't give away season tickets. I mean there's hyperbolic, but it was a slow, maybe like your own emotions or your rear families own emotion There have again been so many resets so many. it's such a a market of goodwill. I really think DC sports. Fans are amazing. You know their capacity to forgive. Forget renew. You know. He's bringing back coach. Joe It's GonNa be Great. He's bringing in Marty. Schottenheimer all mad. He's a winner. Bringing in Shanahan. This is going to be great. You know so many resets, and with the exception of coach Joe you know. Each of these coaches has not only been. Kicked out prematurely, but amidst some public disgrace that this owner allows which is just embittering. That that should not be a part ending a business relationship to somewhat humiliating, demean demean someone so at. So if I'm a business owner on the affirmative side. Yes, what greater job than to be a loner minority owner of an NFL team? The money is printed for you. You get all the parts you'd have the limos. You see the Games you go wherever you want on the sidelines. You bring your friends, no headaches you don't have to make the decision cast vote So that does tell you also. This was a serious divorce and it. It was a long time in the making I think each gentlemen would tell you they're tipping. Point might have been different, so it might have been. The cheerleaders handle two years ago. That was just appalling that the New York Times broke on that, too was followed by an internal review that was going to change the culture of the team. I'm not sure we saw that. the the all the expectation Andrew I know you know so. Of bringing in Brian, Lav Amina. In two thousand eighteen, and and this is a pro in. He is GonNa Reset the business side. In terms of spirit in the building. He was such an inspirational figure on so many staff people were like this has been a brutal workplace. It's toxic culture, but Here comes change and I'm all on board. We're going to change. The whole thing is going to change. He was fired in eight months, not even eight months so. From the business side real simply. He came up with a plan to to tank season tickets out. Keep them off the resale market in other words he he won he. Saugus isn't essential step to recreate field advantage. You know what I mean, so it was an elaborate business. Plane shouldn't say Laborat-. Poor job explaining it was a business plan he presented said you know you're gonNA. Take a financial hit because what we are going to improve the game day experience we want Redskins fans in the stadium to Jen apologies for those who recall at the name I sometimes i. just it's a reflect sight. Say but. I, it was clear. This is how it's going to go, but we're GONNA. Come out better, you know we're going to get that that vibe where we're gonNA. Tell the fans we value. We don't sue you. He didn't say those words, but you know we value the fans. We're GONNA. Make this exciting. You'RE GONNA WANNA come by season tickets. Come back to the redskins all these things that expect to dip so danced either could not tolerate the dip I mean when the dip came, the first quarter came revenues were down and it was like. and then I think there were some interpersonal issues. If you know Bruce Allen, who was had the ear of Dan Snyder for? Ten Years Ultimately, and he was the most significant fear in the building when when Dan brought him Brian left I mean he put him on equal footing with Bruce, which had not been done. So reuss your president of this Brian Your President of this that can work in some workplaces in this one, which in the eight years I covered over many coaching changes changing everything except the honor I have seen many many versions of this team the. The sort of undercutting when something goes bad somebody sacrificed is long as it's not me. You know it's just an environment where that was going to work. It didn't work, but I have zero evidence that. He is eight months ten year reflected anything about. Merit, you know it. And if I'm call owner amp shattered by that like you've gotta be kidding again. I'm not speaking for the three owners. Then say you like Bruce Allen. You really did like reselling or or like that. How he played off of Dan like us, you could function with Dan because you had a guy who worked really knew the League politics could be your out. Front. Guy Could get your stadium going like you were down at that, so not only is. Bruce fired last. December he's again disgraced in the process. I literally left in a parking lot. You know damn would speak to him and he drives away. I just think. More of an answer than you wanted, but I think most realization that I don't want to be your business partner for all the great things. Or I'm not happy being your business partner again. That's the only language we have everything I've said his is what I believe based on reporting, not talking to the owners It's not that different than the fan disillusion really. You brought up a couple times with. Talking about internal politics within the organization and the ways Dan. Snyder runs the office. Now getting more specifically to your reporting about the harassment. You talked to. People who haven't read this great reporting by oil. You Talk to fifteen women one on the record. Who you allowed her name to be used Paint canvas if you. Will for us. In terms of. Use The word toxic will use the words harassment. Like you to give it a little more texture in your. Shur. So we spoke to a little over forty people are a the the story was based on. The accounts of fifteen former female employees and to beat writers who were also on the record. And it was about the sexual harassment and to some extent the. Verbal abuse. They had suffered, and these incidents span two thousand six to two thousand nineteen, so a thirteen year span. You can't peg it to one irritation of the Redskins Front Office, and Their issues or their experiences were really into buckets. One sexual harassment, unwelcome advances, a explicit text stuff that would be beyond gross in a bar, but in no place belongs no workplace whether that is You know a text that says yeah. We have a bet going here. Are Your breasts fake or Are they real or augmented or comments directly. Some Times whispered, sometimes just said you know Nice, but turnaround. There's as a stairwell in the building that goes from the first floor down to where players are the way it's set up Not For this purpose, it's just the way it's constructed. It's it's very easy to up skirt to stand at the bottom and look up the skirt of a woman coming down and women were encouraged to wear heels and skirts there. Was a you know among women like don't go near the stairwell, and and that that that happened. And then. In the marketing side of saying this is quite. In the same vein of the cheerleader scandal, you know it became harder to sell luxury suites keep high-end customers they they relied on a young female marketing staff and these women were told you know where where a tighter dress you know, so the sediment have something to look at it in the meeting. If you, WANNA a reference to A. Plastic surgeon to for the the BOOB job, you know I can. I can hook you up with that. So so that's the type of sexual harassment. This is. For Quite often, women right out of college in their twenties, maybe making thirty thousand dollars a year. They did not feel empowered the same thing they. They thought maybe this was normal. It seemed to be happening everywhere. No one seemed concerned or embarrassed by. It most notably if we're going to talk about A failing by ownership or failing by the leadership of the team If you own a business work in a professional business, you know the importance of having a credible hr department, so this team, which is worth reporting four billion dollars did not have. A properly staffed or trained h department. At any point, it had one person who had other asks, and so no woman felt they could go there without fear of retribution Moreover, there was no training of the staff. No. Training Business. What a hostile workplaces this is! What sexual harassment is! This is what we permit you know. Had you had that I'm not saying men need that, but just as business is common sense business as a company. You spell it out. You have one young woman. Show a text that you've gotten. That is beyond. You know the bounds you call in that employees and say this isn't happening again. This is out of bounds I'm not saying you're fire, but do it again and you are fire. Know it's just. Why was that not done? because. It was an expense that the owner didn't WanNA spend you know this is an owner who many fans regard is. He's great because he spent so much money on the team he he loves the team because he spent. Yes, he. He's profligately on free agency, and it's not money well-spent. This is your terrain Andrew, but but you know that I'm right. On, but if you a beat writer if you cover the UC, the penny pinching constantly. Bathe the players have an outdoor bubble. Bear is one there might be two PORTA johns that is for the whole team and the coaching staff outdoors. I dare you, I. I don't think in the big ten or the SEC players. Maybe I'm wrong, but. The facilities are subpar, not what you would think. The salaries are sub. Par People are worked hard, and for some reason hr was seen as a an expense. The team didn't need on, so so I hope that's been about canvas. Yes, let me. Let me. pull the thread of couple things you said. We're tight outfits. wear skirts in heels. Encouraged. You said that a couple times encouraged to do that. My question encouraged by whom? It would generally be. Ahead of marketing or ahead of sales. So. The pressure came from on high the way. It's been described to me. You know dude make these sales. Make these sales i. we never found an email or a text, saying the best way to to close. The sale is a young woman in a tight dress. It. I doubt that was in. Rining, we've not seen it, but the the accounts of being told where something tighter It's not one person. There's a similar. Over and over again so you know the titles. Their changed I'm not trying to tap dance, but it might be the. Vice President of Marketing Vice President of I'm just drawing a blank, but if Well salaried. Top executives. Of the Redskins in some of the people that were removed. For, lack of a as a euphemistic fired in recent weeks. Would they be. Implicated in sort of the the behavior we talk about the the. Personnel guys the Richard Man's Alex Santos. Talk about the CMO Gershman and of course, the the media Larry Michael. Were there infractions more along those lines or even more. More crude than that. Those certainly not every anecdote I related every just now. Ties to each person, but but yes the five. I'm sorry three so three. Three two were fired between as we reported the story about four, it had published. Obviously, there's a stage after the reporting that we need to go to the team and say We're working on this story. We need comment. The first response was we don't respond to hear say I. And and so we came with a much more detailed. Here's what we have this this person this incident. Here's another person these words. Here's the texts we have, so we were completely transparent with the team This is what we have. We are in the final stages. We need a comment so. I WANNA. Say within twenty four hours. To Scouts were fired. who were on that list? We were not told, nor should we have been That that happened the next day again. The story hadn't published and I think. The fact that two scouts lost their jobs and whatever people learned. Through other means about why not the Washington Post that set off a very disgraceful mania on social media, speculating about the story that was to come. That's the topic for another day. because I'm trying to keep your thread along the and then. Maybe. We had ninety percent of the reporting done we we we had. We had more information. com. We've presented them and then Larry. Michael, the longtime voice of the team announced he was resigning, he was stepping down the next day, and then the two executives. You mentioned a Dennis Green and Mitch Gershman had left the team. Prior you know for for other reasons one one on was. INVOLVED IN THEIR CHEERLEADER SCANDAL But But they each so they. They were gone. So I'm sorry now I've lost I have the track. No. That's what I was asking. And I will I will follow up on the truth later scandal because we've mentioned that a couple times. I, a word from our sponsor draft kings they have brought their expertise to legals sports betting here in the US you can rest assured funds are safe and secure this week. The return of BASEBA- place a pregame bed at least twenty five dollars on your home team for every home run. They hit in the game. You'll get five dollars with free best new users get a signing bonus up to one thousand dollars, not only baseball. We got golf. 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Where they were with. clients customers at the team and private viewing sessions or topless, or if you could remind the the listeners of what happened then, and then, of course, as you mentioned the follow up with the same game plan, we seem to be seeing now with an internal investigation by law firm Etcetera, and what came of that back in two thousand eighteen I believe. He s he s so, but I do want to say at the outset Julie. dicara is outstanding sports writer. This story was broken by Juliet macur at the New York. Times currently in our. Out Outstanding. It was with. Shout out to vote. In cheerleader scandal, that was the new. I'm breaking story in that believe at was was. Certainly primarily, Pratt solely responsible for it, so yeah you recount it well, and we certainly looked into it to an as well and I think there were broader tentacles, but but the essence was One of the executives. Invited. Valuable customers suite holders that the high end people to to join the team on a junket and just like you would. We're going to a play off game. The team might organize flights in a range of trip on this particular junket was a organized around the annual photo shoot of the the teams calendar, so at some point years ago. They started I. Think a lot of teams for all I know. It was a cowboys idea, but there's at. They feature their cheerleaders in a calendar. It's like a swimsuit. Apparently makes money. Photo shoot for this particular calendar. Was GonNa? Be in Costa Rica and I think it was sold to. The highest donors come enjoy Costa Rica go to parties with the cheerleaders and socialize with cheerleaders and we said there was nothing. I mean. It might seem kinda creepy, but there was nothing outlandish about. It's like okay, but you know the accounts of what happened that that some of the cheerleaders came back with you know they were not on board with at all, so there were some some moments where they would be topless. Whether that was. Planned to be topless, but sort of Kuwaiti POWs. Realized that these customers were. Like. There for? They were being offered for entertainment, and they were parties they were being offered for for for for the you know entertaining the clients, and then and then it yeah. I'm not really adding much, but but there is sort of a second level of cheerleader I can't remember what they call them. Maybe team ambassadors it's it's for people who who might WANNA be cheerleaders. Bet Haven't quite the final cut. If a be a team ambassador, so you, the redskins like to dress them or the sales exact pretty scantily have them socialize with with the sweets around to the sweep holders. Summits just. Hey, you know our, don't we love our team? But some some of the customers seem to think that came with the right to Pau them. Squeeze Down, you know. Cross the line crossed the line and and this was? Obviously, a marketing. Strategy that that the business side thought would be effective because the team. The product on the field is not exciting. Anyone days were. And after that, there was after the reporting by. The Times there was. A review. What the team came up with. It took them a while to say yes. This is inappropriate but we you know they were going to hire an outside firm to come do an audit and and see where this went wrong, and and advise the team going forward. And it certainly sounded like a good response like a proactive response, and it certainly seemed to satisfy any concern. The NFL office had about an embarrassment for the League in I'm just hard. Pressed to remember what what came of it I haven't made a point of studying the cheerleaders outfits. You know they. They wear anymore clothing than they used to. Do. You know have to become a bit of hormonised or But I in short I am on solid ground in saying there was no systemic change about The role of women in this organization, are they. Candy for us, you know enticements for our customers, are they? You know meaningful members of a team than which we're all working together with equal respect to get to a super bowl I mean there are several NFL teams when where you go into the building, and you do feel that person is valued and respected whether you make thirty, thousand or three, hundred, thousand, three million and people make eye contact respect one another, and there's great pride in the team's achievement. Achievement that has never been ovide in in my eight years covering that aim fair, sadly and their offensive outstanding people who have worked for that team in that time, this is not a reflection of the people who get chewed up and spit out there. And what do you think is GonNa Happen Now? I mean we have spelt Wilkinson respected attorney being hired to do an internal review. Sharon those who have been around this long time like yours truly. Know. What seems to be ahead? We need more diversity. We need more inclusion. We need more HR. We need better treatment of women come to harassment training. But. Do you think there will be a catalyst for? Change within the organization through her or through some other means. Well I. Don't know her I certainly. Don't by reputation and she is no joke I mean. This is a really good move. It's also true that her client is the team. You know. She's not an outside person I mean. She comes from outside by. She's being paid by the team to report on the team Though all, certainly learn I am quite aware of Dozens and dozens and dozens of. Female employees of the team and I will become away or how many of them are called and actually sought out like what was your experience? These women are kind of curious. I mean already. They're like. My phone isn't ringing yet. I would like to speak to her, so so there is that level. Let me let me organize my brain. A little better off, so what will happen? If. You're an optimist. You would say. The team hired Beth Wilkinson, very serious lawyer The NFL has made clear where aware of what's going on You've got to feel the eyes of fellow owners in Roger Goodell on you if you if you are aware as an owner. Ron Rivera came out very strong. You know I'm not putting up with any environment like this year. I have a daughter, not GonNa Happen, Dan Snyder issued a statement, and then he and his wife sent an email to. Internal to two employees. And I. I don't know coach Rivera personally up never covered him, but I've been around long enough to know that people I respect feel. He is a very strong principled, good man, good person who had two players good to others and and. So and I would say the same for several coaches who have come and gone in that building so. You can't so much fault the steps. The team has taken here in the last couple of hours. Although I would fault. The owner for failing to somehow apologize in any of his statements or even express empathy or I mean there's a million ways you and I could draft a more heartfelt statement that said. Anyone, whose experience was not? Great I regret that you know and we want to make you hold. We apologize none of that so that so but other than lack of A. They, they haven't so much. Put a foot wrong. But I have seen it. You know on ISG, the other side, which is the skeptical side that's not just because I'm a skeptical person, but because I'm all and I've seen a lot. And a lot of this team. There have been. There have been many coaches who have been promised total total freedom total latitude bill. The team you want do the draft you want. Chen please change our culture and and it's. It's yanked out from under them very quickly. Build a team you want, but not the quarterback. You know do this, but you know. Don't. Don't pick the first or second round traffic. You know just their undercut. Their undercut and and Mother Teresa could could not find the time. Time to change the culture if she's supposed to fix the product on the field here, then the product on the field I believe they won three games last year. They're not close close so it. You know he's a human being. What? What are you expecting? You don't have a team president. You don't have a GM. All of this falls to Ron Rivera, who's also supposed to be in charge of the response to social justice and racial justice. Come with a new logo, new imagery and a new name. This is all on his shoulders. And I I am not sure having met Dan Snyder when he was thirty four and I believe he's now fifty five. Seen or snow, growth? Is it really you know we're not. Pals, but I certainly have seen firsthand and studied closely his his ownership of the team, and I'm not seeing a lot of change or growth or development, so I'm very skeptical that there's GonNa be meaningful change systemic change it is, it is implausible, and and more importantly than what I would think. I also think it's telling that the. To Circle back to almost where we started three co owners who have so many perks perks that most people could only dream of. Printing press of money have reached the conclusion. It's not worth it I mean. What does it take to make you walk away from that? What what would it take? To to to. End this discussion. We know everything we're talking about. He doesn't pay meaning Dan Snyder. Doesn't seem to have many allies. With the team or even with Washington fans in general or the region? I told a story a last week that I have a good friend. whose daughter's within Tanya Snyder's. Love love this loose. He went to pick them up at the house. Saw Dan was coming home. He said he said Hey dan. Thanks for letting my girls play with girls really appreciated. Dan Snyder look at my friend guy in his fifties. Says to mind no joke. It's Mr Snider. End My friends has what. It's my name is Mr Snider? Now what kind of person does. I mean I mean. Are you kidding me? My question was I got off track. Do you think he has you know I don't know I. I'm in a position known I don't. Whether he has champions or support. In the League, With other owners with the Commissioner. Is this, you know we know what's going to happen with the internal investigation. There's GONNA be no major penalties coming from his own lawyer. People are suggesting he could be forced to sell like Jerry, Richardson. You know which I don't think it's going to happen as you don't. What do you think is going to happen from the League if anything? You Know I. I think based on where things stand now. Nothing nothing nothing seismic I don't think this rises to the level of forcing him to sell or. Start with some basics that probably you're smart. Listeners know but. You know to. For the League to move to to take any action, it takes a three quarters majority, so that is three quarters of thirty one fellow owners taking an action. That I cannot see I mean they they too are businessmen. They have been sued many times. There's excuse me. There are some business women. They don't get in each other's face. They don't tell each other what to do. They they run their own ship. You know they will much like the name change I mean when and if they feel it in their pocket book. Banning it'll be a concern it. That's the Alpha and Omega here. When it hurts them financially, they will get him off. To some extent. Yes, if you're the visiting team, your share at the visit of the gate is down. You know if you play in Washington compared to what it was, that's not a huge hit, but say he refused to change the name. He's losing all his sponsors. The League sponsors Anheuser Busch whatever you you know. The the cohort saved league wide sponsor. Say we're out on, say it's. It's broadcast partner say. The name I mean big big corporations bailing on the the League because of what's happening in Washington that would get their attention I think I don't think it's anywhere close to that right now, So there's that In some ways I don't think it's a problem necessarily that he's losing his three business partners I mean I. I would be devastated just because they're free exceptionally accomplished men and that's that's a great thing for anyone. As we know all the league requires. Isn't you have one? Controlling one man, and that means at what it meant. You had to own fifty one percent of the team. I think the percent is down. You could data's. Dance neither so his his. He's not threatened. He doesn't have to own one. Hundred percent of the team hasn't to own sixty percent of the team. He doesn't have to buy out these guys. That's not his problem. They're the ones looking for buyers, so he is, he's control. His ownership of the team is still intact with without these guys, but you know. How much erosion of fan base is. Are we going to see? The stadium is still. One of the shabby on every metric fan satisfaction, it's at the bottom. There's no new stadium, certainly not before twenty twenty seven for a whole `nother podcast worth of reasons. I'm not sure that is ever gonNA. Be Realized Twenty twenty seven I find that increasingly hard to believe so it's not a fans want to go. It's not a product. They really want to cheer. It's frank for Eagles fans. And and cowboys fans who live here so I think the. You know I I think there's also a deeper level. Of Sign of trouble that may get the league's attention and I imagine it probably already has and bear with me, because it's a bit of a leap, but actually it's not it it. It's what I would call opportunity costs. And I may be using the business term wrong, but. The League has thirty two teams. It's it's. It's important to the LE-, the have a really strong proud successful presence in Washington D. C. Politically. It would be good for the League that the team in Washington. The Owners Fox is the place to be for every politician. Every lobbyists you know the league does not really welcome regulation about concussion issues, other issues whatever issues they're going to deal with. It's the and they they've benefited from a great presence in Washington, not only commissioner Tagliabue's having. Roots here, but you know it was our lifetime that it was a big deal to be against. Of The Washington. He made a big deal and that meant talk. Lawyers Hop politician. It is not a big deal. It is not a it has lost so much cachet. We can look at numbers of attendance, but it has lost a lot of buzz and I think if if if what's going on in Washington were happening in some smaller markets that were less pivotal it. The threshold would be different, but I really think smart people in the League have to think about what are we losing because the everything about this team seems to be being squandered, diminished and devalued here and if you WANNA, say Ron Rivera is the change agent of all time. All right. Let's go, but I've seen that. Play Ron before and I. It's like a fifty gut that I think I've seen before, but. We'll see if that works and God. Bless him because I. You know I would like think to succeed and I'd like him to be happy. He took the job. Will, this has been great. I just WANNA leave on this note after reporting, which is now I guess a few days old. What has been your experience with your inbox and and also I would assume the story is not going away anytime soon and you're Kevin Continued A. Reaction in reverberations from it, so tell us about that if he would. Sure, so Michael Worker will have sin in I, have both received. A lot of texts. Well a lot more email where we're easily found. and. I doubt. Any, if many NFL teams have as long list of former employees as this one, because people are fired so often, and and so that the turnover the turn is huge so there there's a long list. Of of women who have worked there, we're hearing from men as well you know former employees Benny are saying. Thank you for writing this story. You captured my experience and I'm not able to talk about it I'm summer saying. Thank you for writing this story you. But you haven't scratched the surface it's. It's far worse than you realize, but I can't help you. Because, I've signed an NDA many of these people were hearing from have signed been forced to sign the nondisclosure agreements that you cannot speak disparagingly of the company on some signed upon hiring some signed upon firing and when I say forced for a twenty something making thirty thousand dollars. If you're told you don't get your two weeks severance, if you don't sign this that's a forced. You know that that is a choice that a lot of these women could not make so they they feel. Very bound by the Indians, Ace. And some who don't have India's are scared of the owner and the team, just because of the clout and the power and the tentacles, and they are so young in their careers. They don't have the luxury of just leaving it off their resume, and they shouldn't have to leave it off their resume. They should be proud. You know I had this job with an NFL team at lasted two years and not have to pretend like it didn't happen. Just because somebody's going to say, she was garbage, you know. That's the kind of real stuff that they fear. So yes, we are doing our best to speak to all listen to all. We have no desire to write the same story over and over and over, but we also feel. It. You know it is our job to to have the best sense possible of how pervasive. How normal? This extent it is important how how many women Were affected, and again I'm hearing from men who I was there. I saw this happen I feel guilty. You know I didn't do anything I didn't say anything. You couldn't say anything. I couldn't go to HR, so it's a bad chapter in the work. Life of many young people on and I do not think that the story is about. Five men losing their jobs that that was part of the story but I think This happened because of a choice not to have a legit HR department. In a narrow sense and a broader sense of a workplace culture that has been like this year after year after near where it is just seen as an entitlement of male employees that women are. To be treated this way, there's sort of your diversion. Your play thing and You can curse them out if they Don't get you. Something you need fast enough. Call them an effing idiot or Or tell them they need to. To wear a tighter dress because it would help with the business meeting Mike Normal. And what method of accountability do you see ahead besides? The review from Beth Wilkinson. The team for the owner you may for the whole enterprise or the. Stomach change. Is it hiring HR? People? I, mean even if you really think this was a nothing burger and you know, it will pass just like the cheerleader thing. Some media fixation. You know no matter how hard you are. There should be a lesson here for your three point. Four billion dollar company that a PR hit you took. That could have been avoided. Perhaps if you offered some training, it's worth. Out of nowhere to HR professional, a salary is, but you know you need to do that. Common Sense Business. And I've also learned that there were executives in the building. Who tried to get that done and we're smackdown so it's not like my idea by any means. So accountability. No I don't think. I'm I I. Don't think anything here rises to the level. That it did. Is Not at all related to. The San Francisco Forty niners ship situation that had to do with gambling years ago when gambling, the League was very sensitive about that. One of the owners was involved so. Boss the team, but and Jerry, Richardson, that was behavior buying owner and I'm not. I'm still not convinced. He was forced to sell I I. I know Mr Richardson Pretty well and I. I mean it was related, but I think he chose to sell because he. Who knows but it it led to his selling the team but he no vote was taken kicking him out of the League He. He made the choice to to sell between so no I can't say. This particular story or what we've been able to describe. It as a lever that's going to bring about League league and forced accountability. No but I also am not sure. Well, I am I know in fact there. There's a deeper story to be told, and again the League is is unusual, and that they function as a collective on a lot of things, but they also led owners run their teams. I go back to accountability when it starts costing them when it starts costing them. or Literally in the bottom line or massive pr hit. This is costing us or we need we need. We need better representation in Washington. With, let you go. What a great our list! Thanks so much time flew. Your great reporting with bill will and. A good sense of what you uncovered and. Will keep following it as I'm sure you will. As your inbox continues to fill up. Folly or the S. and I'm remiss in not acknowledging the fifteen women who spoke to us and Particularly the one who felt strong enough to do so on the record and the two reporters who who did. And all those who? Who took our call spent didn't. Share their stories so I I? Hope in each case their current job next job is a better job. Thanks so much. Lewis really enjoyed having you on the podcast. That'll do it for this week's edition of the business sports podcast birthday edition Happy Birthday. Appreciate all those who follow me on twitter at Andrew Braniff a birthday picture. From my traffic on yesterday. Shade my producer store Genera Brian Neal my son Sam. Doing the music. He's now pursuing that career. Can Las Angeles California moving cross country. Rankings on Apple podcasts or create. We'll be back next week with another edition of the business of Sports with Andrew Brandt.

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Explainer 224: Why Washingtons NFL team is changing its nickname

Monocle 24: The Foreign Desk

06:07 min | Last month

Explainer 224: Why Washingtons NFL team is changing its nickname

"Proof today that activism matters and never doesn't always mean never. The NFL's Washington redskins are changing the team name and the teams native American logo. It is, or it should have been and some time ago. The greatest, no brainer in the history of rebranding. If there ever was the time that it was anything other than thunderously Oh fish to call a football team, the redskins lapsed at around the time lost stagecoach coach rattled along the Santa Fe trail. The blundering wrongness of persisting with such nickname can be assessed via the following hypothetical SC yourself how comfortable you would feel any conversation with a native American person to address them by that epithet. You wouldn't dream of it, and nor should you. Get. To the second quarter and read can pick bubbles and. It up the Washington redskins off the National Football League have gone by that name since nineteen, thirty, three, large-scale, grumbling about it has been audible since at least the early nine hundred ninety s when native American activists brought a lawsuit, seeking to prevent the name being used as a trademark. So the question posed by this week's announcement by Washington, they will ditch. The nickname is not why, but why now? It is yet another echo of the protests, which followed the death on May twenty fifth of Minneapolis Man George Floyd in police custody. Popular targets of those huge black lives matter demonstrations where commemorations of the pro slavery, confederate states whose attempted secession from the union in eighteen, sixty. One prompted the American civil war. Down came statues and busts of Robert e Lee Nathan Bedford Forrest and stone were Jackson Down, came the stars and bars flag from NASCAR events, and the state capital of Mississippi it is not a long leapfrog, expunging delusional heroic representations of the oppression of black people to setting about cartoonish imagery and language, which assails the dignity of Native Americans. The redskins organization has clearly never much cared about this before as recently as two thousand and thirteen team owner Dan Snyder, told USA Today will never change the name. It's that simple never you can use capitals. Dan Snyder probably doesn't really care much about it now. The real reason for the change of heart and indeed name may be gleaned from a public statement. A couple of weeks back from Fedex, the redskins major sponsor pointedly addressed to the team in Washington. It asked that the nickname be dumped over port reveals Fedex sent a private letter to the Washington Redskins, saying it will remove all its stadium, branding and sign age unless the football team changes its name at around the same time, the appeared to disappear all Washington redskins gear from its online store. When money talks, few organizations listen as carefully as the NFL. The question now is where the more American sports teams might be compelled towards similar rethinks Washington in this respect, have it kind of easy all, but the most boneheaded of their fans acknowledged that their present nickname has to go elsewhere specifically at the Atlanta Braves and Cleveland Indians in Major League baseball the Kansas City chiefs in the NFL and the Chicago Blackhawks in the National Hockey League the picture is a little less clear. The Cleveland Indians retired their crass caricature mascot chief Wahoo a couple of seasons back and have indicated that they're also open to changing their name. The Atlanta. Braves say they keeping his having consulted with native American groups, but may ask their fans to desist from the trademark trumping gesture intended to evoke the Tomahawk the Kansas City. Chiefs Current Super Bowl champions who play at Arrowhead Stadium, and whose mascot is a Pinto Horse, called warpaint seemed to be hoping. Everyone will just leave them alone and the blackhawks say they're sticking within name as it owners, if indirectly Blackhawk the great warrior of the Sauk, people, the teams I Frederic McLaughlin spent world one with the US. Army's eighty sixth infantry division who was styled themselves the Blackhawks And that right? There is the defense often off by teams who employ native American iconography that it is intended as a compliment. It is indeed the case that nobody ever named their sports club after something they perceived as weak or meek or graceless, but in this, as with all instances of appropriation, and indeed with life. In general, there is a key rule. Don't be a jerk about it. And American sport does offer one instructive example of how not to be as Washington ponder what to call themselves from he on. The football team of Florida, State University are called the seminoles after the local native American tribe if issue has also engaged a decades long dialogue with the actual seminoles aimed at ensuring the football team, and not taking liberties, various mascots, Regalia and insignia have been a good adapted or binned in accordance with the seminoles preferences. Amid the recent controversy, the seminole tribe has reiterated that as they see it. They name Sakes on the Gridiron of very much on the same team. Multiple Twenty four hundred.

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Scandal In Washington PT. 2

First Take

48:20 min | 3 weeks ago

Scandal In Washington PT. 2

"We have been covering this topic throughout the show really devastating allegations coming out of Washington as of late yesterday, fifteen former female employees of the Washington Redskins have accused members of the team's front. Office of sexual in verbal harassment report published by The Washington Post now all of these accusations span from two, thousand, six, three, two, thousand, nine, hundred and include longtime radio Voice Larry Michael Director of Pro Personnel Alex Santos in his assistant Richard Man the latter two were recently fired in the past week. Larry Michael Abruptly, retiring in that same timeframe owner, Daniel Snyder and team President Bruce, L. and have. Have, not been accused of harassment, but some of the women say it was unlikely that Snyder and Alan had no idea that this behavior was even going on head coach Ron Rivera, releasing the following statement, saying the biggest thing is that we have to move forward from this and make sure everybody understands. We have policies that we will follow and that we have an open door policy with no retribution, plus my daughter works for the team and I, sure as hell am not going to allow any of this now. One of the accusers Emily applegate spoke about the culture. Take a listen. I had a you know week. Maybe are so. That was great and I was like yes, this is exactly what I wanted. What was explained to me and this is going to be great and then you know you got your I like. Screaming at you for something that you. Not your fall, and then somebody makes a comment to you about what you're wearing and it just snowballs from there and it really took. Most people know times a comment on my appearance. ESPN NFL reporter Kimberly. Martin here with US foot Kimberly before we get to you I wanna read the statement that was released by the NFL this morning. Saying these matters reported or serious, disturbing and contrary to the NFL's values. Everyone in the NFL has the right to work in an environment free from any and all forms of harassment, Washington has engaged outside counsel to conduct a thorough investigation into these allegations. The club is pledged that it will give its full cooperation to the investigation, and we expect the club in all employees to do so we will meet with the attorneys upon the inclusion of their investigation and take any action based on the findings. Kimberly Martin here with us, a ESPN NFL reporter and Kimberly. You've been covering the League for about ten years now, even working as a beat reporter with the Redskins so I want to ask you first and foremost. What is your reaction to these allegations? I wish I could say I was surprised. I used to work in Washington Post that covered this team I've covered a lot of teams, and this is something that that happens from reporter standpoint. This happens often where unwanted advances comments about your appearance you have to deal with these things, or at least that's the feeling because nobody checks it nobody feel. Feel like you can't go to somebody and the situation will be rectified. You feel like band. AIDS are put on situations, and you learn to put things in the back of your mind you learn just move on, and and push it out out of your mind, so you can focus on what's going on and the job at hand. These are things that other. Female journals have had to deal with that I've had to deal with. Key cards from older coaches. Executives that agents that you know that you've had to cut off because it's not worth it and these are the things that I don't think. Some of my male colleagues have have really understood that there's. Added pressure and added issues when you are women covering the NFL. Kimberly. I can speak you know align my same viewpoints with you as a female in sports. You know unfortunately like you said. I think most women have experienced some type of sexual harassment in some way shape or form. It's really all very sad, but you know I. Want to ask you about the fact that Dan Snyder. The owner of the redskins has yet to even comment on these crazy and really awful allegations. So, what do you have to say in response to that? I'm not I'm also surprised about that. Because what I was in Washington I watched Dan Schneider would try out Jay. Gruden Doug Williams now we're seeing Ron, Rivera speaking speaking about issues that go above them were preceded them and routinely Dan. Snyder is always silent, and that's the thing I saw as a beat writer. Might the takeaway for me is? How can you not be considered a coward in this moment where you have the cheerleaders story two years ago, you had the name change situation. The team has been. been around for eighty years. We're now finally getting to a point where Dan signs like okay, we should probably revisit that whole racist name thing, and now you have this story. And when I talk about BANDAIDS, you fired a couple of personnel. Guys be fired the radio guy. Dan Snyder has a very small circle. It is very hard for me to believe that he's completely oblivious to what happens in his organization. He keeps people around him, and he never has to speak for their behavior. AMAC's troubling troubling. Yeah I think the silence is troubling and embarrassing and I think it's kind of irrelevant whether he knows about it or not. Because if you know about it, then you're complicit. If you don't know about it, then you're derelict like that's not an excuse. You've run this organization and maybe I'd be willing to extend the benefit of doubt if this organization didn't have the history that it had. I mean we. We've brought it up a couple of times after that issue with the cheerleaders that they brought to Costa Rica and allowed. Suite holders to to look at them during a topless photo shoot, you would think that if you own that organization, you would go do a deep dive and understand all the things that are happening and try to correct those that was in two thousand thirteen, and it was reported in two thousand eighteen so i. don't know that it matters whether he knew about it or not. What matters is that? He's created this situation that perpetuates it, but I i. do think that whenever things like this happen and. And I'm familiar with this from a race. Standpoint is often we look at one person and say this is the bad guy, and maybe they are the bad guy, and it absolves all of us of whatever guilt we have, and being complicit in his process, so and listening to you guys talk about what women experiencing sports and having plenty of friends, obviously who are women in sports and the things that I see happen to them on social media in everywhere. Else I wonder if all of us. Even in the wake of the metoo movement should take a closer look at the things we're doing and this company and things in in in other companies that things that we perpetuate because just pointing that Dan. Snyder saying he's. That's the bad guy. That's the problem doesn't because you? You say that you've experienced kimberly over a number of different places, Dan. Snyder wasn't at all those places Dan. Snyder is not at all these places creating these incidences so not to let them off the hook him. We need to hear him speak, but we also need to be aware that this is not just systemic within Washington, but it's kind of systemic within sports in also probably in American culture. Yeah listen I I talked about earlier in the first hour. How just a macro perspective this is! This is something that's not not unknown in sports with be milled. Females have to go through and profession of the stress that had to go through and and the the. Attitudes and actions that that that are coming their way so again. I applaud the women that came forward. The fifteen women came forward in the Washington Post article, but it also strikes me the difference between you know when Mark? Cuban had a similar situation that that that you know that arose with the Dow Dallas Mavericks in how he approached it. As opposed to DASS neither you know Mark Cuban. Went when the allegations drop. In media the first you know the first thing he did, was you know I wanna step I WANNA. I WANNA step right in. And take full responsibility for everything that's going on within the organization and he. You know Direct you know immediate action immediate change within the organization as opposed to dance. Not so you know to me this just. Is this communist and a common thread within within the watching football team organization of just a the the know the Derek duty from the top with Dan Snyder and has permeated itself all the way down throughout the throughout the. Organization and my biggest question is. We just is Ron Rivera going to be left. Just clean up this whole mess because that's what it seemed like. Dance is known for is just putting putting off these responsibilities. To other people within the organization. What you also have to wonder. Ron Rivera is very open about his daughter works for the organization the fact that now he knows what's running rampant within the organization. He was just tired. Of, hired to work under, I mean that's that's going to be devastating for him, but kimberly the NFL has already said that they're going to wait to launch an investigation of their own at this at this juncture. But what punishment do you think should be love against the Redskins by the NFL? You know what more does the NFL needs to see from Dan Snyder Organization? Really what are the one of the Redskins now known for? We constantly talk about them and not in a positive way. There's one scandal after the other. I understand that there may not be a precedent for just getting rid of Dan Snyder, but I think when we talk about the the point time that we're in. We're talking about black lives matter. We're talking about me, too. It's not just enough to say Oh I. Don't do that. We don't do that here. It allies have to be people who will speak up when it's not convenient. There are other owners who can look at the red at the Washington football team and say you know what there's just way too much stuff happening here, and it's not okay, and it continues to happen and Dan. Snyder has has been at the forefront of all of this. This weather he's implicated imprint or not, and the NFL has a track record of not doing right, not being consistent when their issues pertaining to the treatment of women. The NFL you know it's one thing to say you support people in this China. Foster a great working environment, and no one should have to deal with these things, but what happens day to day now we note this article is out there. The cheerleading story should have been a huge deal. And what happened it went you know we forgot about it? And now this comes out. So are we going to forget about this? We're going to let the reds the Washington football team off the hook. Something has to be done and the NFL owners really should take a look at Daniel Snyder ownership. I wonder in all of this. We talked about how it's a problem. That's rampant throughout the NFL rampant through sports. I, I, wonder if some of the other team owners are a little concern themselves before they wanna go out cast stones. They make sure that they have investigated was happening within their organizations I I have not heard and I've been asking all the people that we've had on today. I have not heard many people talking about Dan Snyder, being removed, but I do think that in the wake of what we we saw happen with the name. It was the sponsors, and it was the internal people inside the organization who brought that to light or and I brought it to light, but. Wielded the pressure that made that change happen, so I think you're right Kimberly. It's about the people with power those allies and it's about US creating that noise around it, but it's about them saying that. I don't WanNa be associated with this I. Don't want to be associated with the with that name. Obviously, it took way too long, but I I would suspect that these sponsors don't want to be associated with this type of orgainzation or person who would create an environment where this could fester in in negative. Negative impact people so I think it'll be interesting to see what happens in the in the coming days and months in. See how this investigation turns out, but I think you're right. I think at some point. There will be a call for Dan Snyder to to be removed from his spot there I, think that's almost inevitable whether it happened or not I don't know, but I think that some people start to try to align themselves on the on the clear right side of this issue in opposition to Snyder. What we saw like the only reason that the. Franchise side to move forward as far as changing day was because of the sponsorship with because the money. Are we going to see something similar now with all with all the minority party? decided to sell their shares in sponsors, dropping you know is similar. Actually want to be taken because we all know at the end of the day money talks and everything else walked so I think the the interesting thing is you know? How will the money affect the you know how money affect Daniels not what he decided to do as far as the Washington franchise moving forward. Yeah absolutely, no one wants to be associated with a toxic culture especially in this day and age, so you know it will be interesting to see what happens in terms of the personnel who are working for the Redskins, also the sponsors like you just said Damian but Kimberly. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for your time. Also thank you for sharing even though they the details about what you experience working in the world of sports, because I think it's very important that people hear it. It runs rampant like we just. 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Could you leave the TV on during the day I need to catch up on my soaps. Dot Com for bundling made easy. Go to GEICO DOT COM today. Okay. We have some breaking news. Right here on. I take redskins owner Dan, Snyder has just released a statement in regards to all of the allegations being brought against the. redskins organization. The statement reads the behavior described in yesterday's Washington. Post article has no place in our franchise or society. The story strengthened my commitment to setting a new culture and standard for our team a process that. That began with the hiring of coach Rivera earlier this year, but Wilkinson, inner firm are power to do a full unbiased investigation, and make any all requisite recommendations upon completion of our work we will institute new policies and procedures in strengthen our human resources infrastructure to not only void these issues in the future, but most importantly create a team culture that is respectful and inclusive of all. Okay, Gentlemen. Right from here I WANNA get your reaction to Dan Snyder's response finally. We've been waiting in waiting for him to say something so Damian. Let's start with you. What your reaction! Well listen edge US worse for me right now you know you in the. Press release you hear him, talk about beefing up You know hr well. What was this? When you know you had an incident? In two thousand eighteen with the cheerleaders? You would have thought after that bombshell. Drop that you know h. all would have been beefed up. There would have been a thorough investigation. Into the action you know in Costa, Rica, and within the watching the redskins organization, and then you have. This incident dropped so for me, you know. Yes, you know I'm glad to hear from Dan Snyder because we seem like we've heard from everyone else, but it just empty words unless I see you know some some substance behind the words that he's outgrown out here in his Presley. And it's it's something so It's a start, but I think Damon. You brought up Mark Cuban, and how he reacted of few when when things hit the mavericks and important thing was Mark Cuban opened himself up to questions, and I know Mark Cuban is the more public figure than Dan. Snyder and and seeks the spotlight, so maybe that opportunities a little. Little different but I think when you are the head of an organization like this. When you have a crisis like this uncovered, you have to open yourself up to questions, so a statement is is a step, but I feel like what we need from him him to stand in front of reporters or one reporter create an opportunity where we can ask him. Him Hard questions and not just sin Ron Rivera out there to answer them, and not just type up a press release that says all the right things and try to move on. You need to answer for these questions. He didn't make himself available in the wake of the name change, but I still think that's important because their questions he needs to. To answer for for that also, but he he needs to answer some questions and this incident. Also maybe he needs to just carve out a full day and just sit there and go through the media circuit, and be honest and forthright I. think that'll go a long way for him. Gaining some credibility with the fans of DC in the fans NFL. Absolutely Dan CIDER, making a comment finally in the wake of all of these allegations, being brought up against the redskins organization, possibly a little too late, but booger. McFarland will be joining US coming up after the break, so we'll discuss a little more indepth once he joins us, but guys I want to get to the NBA bubble as the NBA will be resuming its season in less than two weeks, Orlando and today's bubbler nothing team is the UTAH. Jazz who are currently fourth in the West with forty one in twenty three record just star Donovan Mitchell is averaging a career best four point, two points, which is the highest scoring average by jazz players since. In the ninety nine two thousand season, and guess who's joining us now. We've got Kendrick Perkins in the House Kendrick. Thanks for joining us here on first stake. Now I WANNA. Ask You we'll start with you here since you just joined US Donovan Mitchell. Need to leave Utah in order to win a title. Where's he going? He bet assists still keep a cool boot. Listen Donovan Mitchell. A Great Situation in Utah Listen He has the right pieces around them. The Utah Jazz has done a great job as organization will couldn't guy position to be successful when you talk about a guy like Rudy Gobert? WHO's the top three sent? In the League when you look at a guy like Joe Ingles who's one of my favorite players in the NBA and then when they add about Donald Bitch this off season from the Pacers. That's great pickup now. They body my colleague in the trade to take some of the slack off. Two but the lack of production of Conley has been kinda terrible this season. He ever found his niche or whatever, but didn't they? They added join clubs in midseason to the team to help them out needed a tremendous job. Right before the pandemic was playing hell of a basketball as the seeks candidate day of well coach. Would they win a championship this season? Hell? No, they will not because they're gonNA miss by down Bitch and we all know that the Utah Jazz Love Court advantage. Because it's hard to win in Utah now with that being said if Donovan. Donovan Mitchell don't want to be dead due dead number-one option if he needed to be the second option, and yes, he needs to leave, but if I'm done Mitch, staying put the ball is in his hands. They go took down the stretch and to me. This is going to be auditioned for him in this bubble, is he? A Guy? Would by Don Davis basing. Is he going to be a guy that can give you thirty plus points in the playoff series, so if I'm the jazz I'm reevaluating and keeping a close eye on Donovan Mitchell in the bubble. Perk, my dog man, but man I think Donovan Mitchell only he's GonNa have to win. A chip is outside of UTAH. My brother. Listen I know that Rudy Gobert eligible for. I think that supermax after this year. That's a lot of money and I know. That Donald Mitchell was going to be up for a contract extension and we know there are a couple of players on his Utah Jazz team on the wrong side of thirty. When you look at Mike Conley and Joe Ingles. So they have some. You know they have some retooling to do. In Utah and I look at. What free agent really you know! WHAT RAISES REALLY WANNA GO TO UTAH to up to be. To be one teams to overcome the Los Angeles Clippers or you know some of these other teams that able to form these super teams. You know that's to me. Is Struggle with the Utah Jazz? You, know their inability to really bring in big time free agents within their organization. They're going to have to do it and in other ways to be creative, so that's why I say Donovan Mitchell I. Don't see him win a chip with the Utah Jazz because it's not like a free mid destination a lot, a free agents who want to go play in Utah. They're going to have to build through the draft. Obviously, it's GonNa. Be Hard to get players out out to Utah, but if you have a great player, we saw people go to Cleveland, but obviously Donovan Mitchell is not on the level of Lebron James, so it was possible. He doesn't have to leave. Utah, but I don't think it's possible that they're currently constructed and as much as everyone appreciates. Go bears defensive presence. Presence like if I remember correctly and correct me if I'm wrong. Perk I don't want to speak out of turn on the NBA better to me, but I feel like an important moments in the stretch last year they did take off the court. Because the way the game is being played. Small Ball teams ran him off the court or took him out of the inside by playing a small five in his most. impactful thing protecting the rim if you can take him out of the room I'm not sure that you can have a Max contract guy which is coming up looking at, they might make a Max Contract Guy I'm not sure that you can win. Not It's not I'm not sure you can't win a championship. NBA If you're big to is Rudy Gobert Donovan, Mitchell, so I don't know if you have to leave Utah. Stay in Utah but as currently constructed. I don't see them. Keep getting closer being competitive for championship and foreseeable future. were, both of wooden and Dominique Look I love. Both of you. Budget job my. Just. Two years ago didn't the Utah Jazz knock off Paul George and Russell Westbrook then. They knocked them off. End Pieces every year. Every year I'm watching Utah Ed pieces dead by Donna his pickup. That was so underrated. Listen this guy was. This guy was averaging twenty points on fifty percent shooting before the pandemic, and you wear picked up a Guy John clocks from Cleveland he was coming in, he was making the case for being a six minute of your candidate, so I'm saying you got Quin. Snyder they was putting the right pieces around them, and they acquired Mike Conley. When they acquired my calmly and. Everybody include. Myself was like Oh. That's a great pick. Utah could be a dark costs contender coming out of the West, but Mike Conley haven't found his niche, but if all those pieces could work, was saying that this season, but going into next season naked, find a way to make it work. They got an agenda tasks in my opinion. Kendrick get. Go Bear in Mitchell are getting along given their little busts up with coronavirus. I mean listen. You don't have to get along to go out there and be able to win and compete. We've seen that with a lot of teams. You know I've been on a lot of teams. Will guys didn't talk and didn't get along and went best of friends, but longest when you still between those lines that you could put your differences aside and go out there and. And Compete and do your job. That's all that matters, but here's the concern that I have. This is a problem that I have with the NBA. This is why you need fits. This is why you need guys like Jamal Crawford on the bench. Guys today nature because they're able to run the locker room. It's the reason jared Dudley still in the league. Yes, he's. Call, he could play, but imagine if Jared Dudley was on the Utah Jazz. He's the ultimate locker room guy. That's the thing that the jazz are missing if they could get a good bit a great leader that's going to keep guys in Tak, then, yes, I think. The jazz has a legitimate chance in the future I. Think the future is very bright for them. Yeah. They don't have that guy now, so it doesn't seem like the future is bright for them. Their media future is bright for them in in in the bubble. Babe best scenario, make it to the second round, and then then that's that that's a that's a win for me. Yeah. All, right well leadership, certainly key something we've been discussing all show long in several different forms so Kendrick. For your time, have an weekend for businesses around the world. Today isn't a restart. It's rethink. That's why they're partnering with IBM to Change How they burnt from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit IBKR DOT com slash smart to learn more. Brown. Star Defensive End myles Garrett signed a five-year extension with the hundred million guaranteed. This weekend commented on the contract yesterday, saying he knows he has to quote, assert himself as Topdog Garrett also addresses helmets. Swinging incident was steelers quarterback Mason Rudolph calling it quote a small bump in the road all right then Burger Berlin joining us now. I WANNA, ask you. Was this really just a small bump like he's saying? I think when you look at the incident itself, I. It was definitely a major incident, but when you, when you look at it from a broader perspective and you look at miles, Garrett's entire career. I think this will wind up. Being as he said a small blip on a radar, because I think for the most, he has been a very upstanding citizen from an NFL standpoint. He's done things the right way. He comes from a really really good background, and and he's been one of the better young players in this league I realized. The incident got a lot of attention, and you definitely don't ever WANNA! Use your helmet to swing and hit another guy in the head, but if you just look at myles Garrett track. Track. Record speaks for itself, and I think as long as he can continue to move forward and learn from the incident and not put himself in a situation like this owner off the field ever again. I think I, agree with them. You know oftentimes guys and Gals we look at a situation, and we look at it in the heat of the moment, and in the context we see it in, but when we kind of peel the layers back, and we look at it from a broader perspective, and we look at his career from a totality standpoint I think. Think. We're going to look back on it and say hey. myles Garrett did that and some people wanted to suspend him for the entire season. Some people were saying man. This guy needs to be suspended into the twenty twenty one season, and in the end he's rewarded, and he's the highest paid non quarterback in the NFL history so I think not only. Should we look at it as a blip on a radar the Cleveland browns are looking at it that way in the NFL. Also because they've reinstated it. Yeah, I don't think we will and I think biolog-. overacted at the time and I said it at the time that I. Think people are overreacting about this. However, this is going to be a chapter in his book. How we talk about it. Going forward is going to be determined by how he plays, and how he continues to behave on and off the field, but this is going to be a chapter if it turns out that he's the player that that he was before this and he. He continues to be a great player and you continue to be the person that we all thought he was before this then. This'll be something that would write about is this was a turning point in his career and he got refocused in the rest of the book will be happy story, but it will be something that we bring up even at his hall of fame induction if that's how his career works out, but if his career goes. And he plays well, it's we're going to say well. This was the low point that led to him going all the way off the cliff, and not and never being the player that he should have been so I think. San is a small bump. I think not only Mason Rudolph. Head would disagree with you I think I would disagree with you. Also. It's going to be a big kind of. Like touchstone, we talk about his career going forward whether we say it was just a momentary lapse or whether we say it went to define the personality. Was What do you think? Well listen I was I was one of the guys that was really coming at the myles Garrett. When the incident initially happened, it was on a Thursday night and I remember being on with Scott van building now I was one saying that that was assault so obviously from that situation you could tell I was from, but I do agree with Boogie situation because God. We know that listening NFL NFL is a game of passionate emotions. Run High, but ultimately what you do, move forward. Mild remember. This is the same girl that had since Saxon Games who anything about the as crazy, if miles good comes out, and it continues to fulfill the promise that he has in net net physical specimen level body. Not many people talk about that incident that happened with the Pittsburgh steelers, event and note. The Way That it can be a launching point one way or another, and that's why we're GonNa talk about, but I know one thing at inundate people. All people care about is all you how you perform on the field and myles Garrett goes out there and perform that all fame type level I think people this wouldn't. Be Be a blip on the radar and people will realize. CURB! going. You know what dumb to your point. It's going to be a chapter in the book, but I think it's going to be buried like. In one of those chapters on the pages think about Tom Brady deflate gate men. He got suspended for it and we were all talking about it. When when Tom, Brady steps to the podium for his hall of fame speech, no one that day or surrounding those who are going to talk about deflate gate is a small blip on radar now I realized this is a physical nature or physical assault suspension nevertheless and I think steal tomorrow's Garrett's point, even though the action of hitting someone on the head is far worse in psalms is then deflategate, but I gotta look at it in the same context because Tom Brady Hall of fame go. Go. Great Player nobody's going to Mitch. You Deflate Gate and Myles. Garrett continues on trajectory. Daddy's on right now, and he one day gets to be in a hall of fame category. He is potentially a hall of Famer. Nobody's GONNA mention. Well. You remember twelve years ago. When he took the helm, the almost not Mason Rudolph in the next week it'll be a small blip on the radar done I. Think I think important. Also. We went through this whole segment without saying I think Maoz Gary still stands by this. He was provoked by a racial slur so like Maoz Gary Wrong for swinging the helmet I. think that's at least that. That allegations that at least part this conversation. Okay. We're talking about hall of fame speeches, and what comes later on in one's career. But what is Garrett going to do when we know as the season starts getting back to it? How's he going to respond to all these questions in every single city about what happened on the field last year? I probably. My second their quarterback, I think he would. He was on a mission to be defensive player of the year last year. It probably wasn't gonNA work out because that team wasn't very good, but he was playing defense player two year type of place and I think what's the money and with all the attention? He's GonNa. Want attention to be on his player field. He's going to answer those questions. Probably the same way with every and every city something to the effect of I want to put it behind me, and then he's going to go out in slam their quarterback in the turf. That's what's going to happen you. Listen to respond to try to go. Are you going, bother play on the field. mean he said this man had ten sacks and ten games. Actually it was the terror last year. He didn't play six games, so imagine what he imagined his born into this year with everything that transpired last season. This man it's won't be on a mission. He's GONNA make sure everybody puts behind him once he steps on the football. I completely agree you know having worked for the SEC network years ago October myles Garrett when he was Texas. A&M and I was very critical of him because he's always had the physical skills. He's been a physical freak for a long time, but the production didn't match the physical prowess, and I called him solve during his career and myles Garrett. Didn't like it. Here's what I'll say. Over the last few years I've seen improvement from this young man on every down run and pass, and he is the. The most gifted defensive end in the national football league he can beat the most complete defensive end in the national football league. He may not be the greatest pass rusher. He may not be the greatest run player, but when you look at the combination of what you want in a premier defensive somebody that can take the game over somebody that can be unblock -able down in and down out. If you were going in factory that huge house up in up in the Baltimore area that Dominic Foxworth. And you said you know what dom put together the best defensive being you can. He will be built very similarly to myles Garrett six five to seventy five, he can run four, six, hundred forty. There is no one knowing with that type of package in the NFL right now. I live in DC which means there? was smaller than yours. Because you live down south, you can you probably got on a state out there I'm and I'm dealing with one guy who called myles Garrett solve and other one who stay out there committing felonies. I am now. On this show. was suspended for six games the final six games of last season that was the second longest suspension for an incident in NFL history, but like we all saw. He's still getting that money so really speaks to just of a player. He really is but booger. You're sticking with I should be with US next segment. We will address Dan. Snyder's statement that he has finally made for businesses around the world. Today isn't a restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change How. They were from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT COM slash smart to learn more. And back to the top story of today fifteen, a former female employees of the Washington Redskins have accused members of the team's Front Office of sexual and verbal harassment. This in a report published last night by the Washington, post now Ron Rivera. The team's head coach commented on this yesterday, and it wasn't until really just moments ago. That redskins owner Dan Snyder released a statement of his own saying. The behavior described in yesterday's Washington Post article has no place in our franchise or society. The story strengthened my commitment to setting a new culture and standard for our team process. Process that began with the hiring of coach Rivera earlier this year both will Beth. Wilkinson and her firm are in power to do a full unbiased investigation, and make any and all requisite recommendations upon completion of her work we will institute new policies and procedures in strengthen our human resources infrastructure to not only avoid these issues in the future, but most importantly created team culture that is respectful and inclusive of all now booger McFarland still here with us, so I want to start with you and ask what your reaction is to Dan Snyder statement that as I just said. Just moments ago. About time. We were all waiting on a statement to come I. IT should have come a lot sooner. Nevertheless, it did come I think what we have here is. I think America is look at the situation until talented I. You have the Redskins. Name, which we've been doing for a number of years, and then comes this Washington Post article with the fifteen women legend harassment that was going on and I. Think it's just a culture in Washington DC particularly Inet organization there that a lot of people have had issues with for a long time, and this article may have just been. Broke the camel's back. We see that some of the minority owners have been trying to sail big in the longtime play by play voice radio. He resigned abruptly. I. Think there is a there is an an oral. There is an environment there. That has not breed it success that had not has not breed it welcoming for you, come in and do your job and not worry about the outside. North for a long time and I applaud Mr Snider for finally coming out and saying something, but quite frankly it's just too late anytime. Your organization is under attack anytime your. Your Business One jurists responsible for when you are. The owner is under attack. It should not take as long as it did for him to come out and put a statement quite frankly. Ron Rivera has been the face so far of the Washington Redskins, and I think people have a very respectful nature, people respect, Ron Rivera and I think we wanna hear from Ron Rivera based on his integrity, his character, a lot more than we want to hear from Daniel Snyder and that speaks volumes, says one is the head coach, and the other is the owner of the team. Well listen. It's one thing to put out a statement. It's another thing to address address. Everything bought to law with the Washington Washington football team. The organization they've had incident at the incident happened. You know going back to two thousand eighteen with the cheerleader incident down in Costa Rica, and and now with the change of the name, and now this this Washington Post. Article that dropped yesterday where you dance, not a like. He's been in a in a bunker and we talk about you know toxic environments. Toxic it's usually start because of oxygen management, and it starts at the top with Daniel Snyder, not listen. Appraise. Borough for coming into a situation and being kind of faith and. And being the focal point at to turn the situation around but Ron Rivera. He's the football coach. He used to be focusing books on football. Aspect the side of the football team and not. Anything that that happened before him notes boss just now. Hear from Dan Nada. Is An abomination to be quite honest with you, and it's and it it contrasts what the Dallas would mark Cuban and The Dallas Mavericks. Mark Cuban when when the allegation came up with his organization, the first thing he did was. To stand up for everyone and said you know what this is unacceptable. What's been going on with that organization? And he was very franken forward, and he was speaking to the media about everything that you know the changes that he was going to implement with his organization, so listen. A statement is the least that dance not could do right. Now I think people have more questions than answers released the Washington redskins organization I think he needs to put himself out there. Yeah I think the most important steps that they need to take now. The the press releases one thing. He needs to open himself up to questions like that. You need to answer questions, so we can get a full understanding of what your role is been, and how you feel about the things that have transpired and be able to ask specific questions from journalists who? Who have been the hopefully the journalists who uncovered the story, but frankly any journalist at this point he needs to open himself up to those questions thing that's the first step and the next step is probably I think we need to find a way to make sure that Beth Wilkinson, and in her firm who are doing the investigation are without any Compromise situation or even the appearance of being compromised because again. I, I don't know her or know her firm I suspect that she is of the utmost integrity, but in situations like this, what is just as important as being independent is the perception of independent, so you do not want to allow there to be any opportunity for anyone to say that the evidence that comes out of this investigation is not valid, and soon as the you see that the final chet comes from Dan Snyder or from the Washington franchise, you can have the perception that this investigation was not completely independent, so it's the. The NFL stepping in to bring in another firm or an NFL stepping into pay to be the ones who pay a Beth Wilkinson in her firm I think someone else needs to be responsible for conducting and financing this investigation. Otherwise, it's going to be hard for anybody to believe the results of no matter how much integrity the firm has i. think those are the two most important steps that I would like to see. Take place going forward, and the first step is an easy one Dan, Snyder needs to sit in front of a camera or sit in front of journalists and answer these questions. To your point down. Let's be fair to Daniel. Snyder I'm pretty sure there's some legal ramifications where he can't stand up in front of a podium and just answer all type of question so to be fair to him. I don't think he could probably do. I'm not a lawyer, but I would bet he can't do that. It's based on all the allegations that have come up. Those questions are easy to to avoid. You say you make that comment, but I do think that there are plenty of questions that he can answer and. And it's not just about this particular incident. I think it's about he never came out and answer questions about the history of the name of the franchise and I. Think it's easy to say well because of this ongoing investigation. This particular question I do not want to answer, but I think the recipe questions you certainly can answer, and you can come out and be outspoken and forceful about the things that you that you're comfortable, answering and I. think that's a step that needs to be taken. I mean Ron. Rivera spoke. Why can't Daniel Snyder. That's fair. You know what I would say. Is that the Washington redskins are part of thirty two teams in the NFL so they're one of thirty two, so if we really want to be transparent if we really want to get down to an. How about Roger Goodell in the NFL so. One of our thirty two is under attack. Okay, did they do something wrong? We need to find out so let's NFL less ordering investigation Roger Goodell is controlled by the NFL and him and less investigate. What's going on down there? Because dom that solves your point. Because some point, the Redskins have ordered this investigation, and ultimately they are paying for it. There's going to always be that little skepticism in the back of your mind. was something really funny going on regardless of the result I? Think we will see a more comfortable if the NFL ordered the investigation and we would be able to live with the funding because the NFL always going to do what's best for the shield, the rare scans are not the she of the NFL is the she. Oh, so if you're looking for a simple solution, I think will suffice the public and also the other owners behind the scenes. Roger Goodell you ordered the investigation. And for me, I think the question of. The question that just keeps coming to in my mind is you had the incident with a chilly in two thousand eighteen. You talked about your HR departments beefed up. In the happened after the Chilean incident. Why are you talking about this now? After another story has dropped, and it just lead, lead me to more skepticism about dance, not at his ability. To be able to implement the necessary in in order to foster an environment where everyone can come in and do their job. Do Their job well. Well. I think this along with a laundry. List of problems at the Redskins have endured in the past, really just speaks to a toxic culture in Washington which is really unfortunate but I. WanNa get your take on how this is going to affect the players who are on the field this season for the redskins. We've already talked about how Ron Rivera is being taken away from his job so. If your head coach and he's not only just a head coach. He's kind of the head of player personnel. They've lost a lot of staff. He is not in. We are going through this unique time where you can't be around the players nearly as much. I can't imagine that it's going to bode well for the team. Going forward when your head coach is not only tasked with. With finding a new name because he seemed to be the one who's front and center there he's also tasked with addressing a deep rooted culture of sexism in the organization, so those are two independent fulltime jobs. That Ron Rivera seems to be task with before he even gets to the fulltime job of leading the prayer personnel in the fulltime job of being a NFL head coach. I'm not sure how he can pull all this off, but if he can. That man deserves more than whatever Dan Snyder is paying him. He deserves a lot more because he is doing. Incredible work across several different. Pillars in this organization and one of the jobs that I think frankly right now that comes towards the end of that is coaching football team. So I'm not sure how you can prepare football team also doing all these other things. Down to your point, roure very is really tasked with a monumental job because he's got a lead a team that that he's never coached before he's got to lead a team. That's about to go undergo a name change, which has been a probably needed to happen for twenty years, and on top of that he's got an owner that's been been under attack and keeps being under attack for things that are going on on the business side and. Ron Rivera has had a mighty played in front of him, but the things that I know about him. He's very capable I. think from a football standpoint, this redskins team, or whatever the name they're going to be when they start playing, they will be ready to play Ron. Rivera is one of the great coaches in the National Football League. I have no doubt that his team will be ready to play as far as a player. You know the name change were probably affect the players more than these allegations based on. Based on the Washington Post article because a lot of this happening happened in scouting on the business side, it didn't necessarily happen from a coaching staff standpoint, and as a player when I'm dealing with my coaches directly when I'm dealing with some of the training staff, those are the people that come in closest contact with throughout the season, so I don't know if the players will deal with. The ramifications from the Washington Post article they were probably have to deal with more of the name change than the article, but either way I think Ron Rivera if he's not the best. He's one of the best people to be in position to this job. Well Listen I. think that you know Blair's heavily heavily unique ability, and all of us on panel can speak to it to be focused on the task at hand, so I think from a player's perspective. I think the guys would be fine. You know getting ready for the season and so on and so forth. Why do thing that could be? A potential issue is with Ron Girl just being stretched too thin. I mean remember. This is the Washington franchise. That doesn't have a team president so now linseed coach. He's playing personnel. Dom talked about this. He's also teams like the spokesman for the team at anytime. You're coaches being. Stressed like this. You're taking away from preparation on football side of it, so you know asked not a has a lot of work ahead of him. You know needs to put more people in place to allow his hey coach, which that's the job our forth, go out there and win. Games feel. Absolutely while gentlemen, we got to leave it there, but thank you so much for all of your insight. Thanks for being with us. We waiting for more developments as it pertains to wash. We know they're coming. Everybody things for watching I take enjoy your weekend sportscenter coming up next.

Move Underway To Scrap Lane Tech Indian Mascot. Could Blackhawks Be Next?

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Move Underway To Scrap Lane Tech Indian Mascot. Could Blackhawks Be Next?

"I'm Justin Kauffman and this is reset. Lane Tech's Chicago's largest public high school could be getting a new mascot after more than a thousand alumni called quote, wrong and racist. The school has taken the first steps to replace their Indians. Mascot, the symbol and native American man, wearing a feathered headdress, has been part of tech more than one hundred years been attempts before to replace the symbol, but the current national dialogue stomach races is given those efforts second wind stewart is a lane tech alum and played the schools mascot during his high school days Stewart welcome to reset. Thanks a lot, so let's get right into it when you were there when you were playing the mascot, view the mascot back when you were in school. You know I've really tried to Imbue it with his much dignity as possible, and I play football for my first three years at lane, and then my senior year I wanted to be lane indies. And so I tried to really bring a lot of respect to it and really get the crowd yelling. At Lane. Tech the Indian is pretty big witness throughout the school and. We were kind of it was conveyed to us that the Indian or the warrior was supposed to convey you know character traits like graver leadership and steadfastness in the face adversity Tom. I tried to bring that character to you know might portrayal is the. Is the lane Indian on the football field? Okay, so and and that's fair, and that's used to be the way that anytime. There's any sort of native American imagery that seems to be the the the way they the school or the organization. Explains it? But how do you feel about it now you pull you pull you. Were you were the school mascot? And now we're seeing a a new push during this time right now. This reckoning to say maybe it's time to change. So how do you feel a right now? I mean about the idea of changing the mascot. Like a lot of you know older alumni I you know a lot of my identification school you know centers around Indian and I I've been pretty reluctant to get on the bandwagon. We've had younger. My approached US saying that we need to get on board of. And I I I I. You know was was tempted to Kinda. Push back them so I decided to do my own homework and. Florida, state, head seminoles and they actually got approval from the seminal nation to use that symbol, and keep going with it, and they got the blessing so. I thought well I've always thought we. Represented the the Indian you know. Honorably anti contacted the American Indian. Center in Chicago to talk to them, and we could get possibly get some kind of. Endorsement, and so they referred me to their executive director. WHO's actually in billings Montana? So have their Miller. Called me. And I kinda related her. You know what was happening and she said Stewart. I can't believe that we're even having this discussion in twenty twenty. There's absolutely no way. A representative of this of the American Indian Center I can think this is appropriate. For Years We just didn't have the political. Power push back on this. And now we do. Do you think there'll be a change Stewart, do you as alumni and there's thousands of alumni wants to change. You'd think that the school listen. You think there'd be a change. I. Do believe that there will be. And I think it's GonNa. Happen very quickly. It's not even actually the the school's decision at this point it's I going through the local school council right, and then the north side network of schools, and then it goes to the to CPS and actually currently a bill in front of Illinois House. That is going to mandate that. Any school that uses a native American as its. Symbol Mascot. Whatever you WANNA call. It is GonNa lose funding or something. Is Not even lanes decision. At this point, we'll see what happens lane, tech alums, Stewart and joining us now to talk about the fact that he played the mascot, and how he's changed a little bit of course on on his thinkings over the years Stewart, thanks join us, appreciate it. Thank. You and of course offensive imagery in sports is not exclusive. To High School, you can only have to look as far as Washington DC's football team, or baseball and Cleveland or wife and go that far because. We've had plenty of that imagery. Right here in Illinois and in Chicago Lester Munson is a sports legal analyst and he's looked into the issue extensively joins me now. Leicester Welcome to reset good to talk to you Justin. All Right? Let's get into this because you heard Stewart right. They're talking about. The idea of the seminoles Florida state and even going to the. Native American Center to to see if he can get blessing, but this idea that many organizations both schools and organizations seem to use that as cover the idea that they've gotten blessing from a different community or different organization. Is that enough? Probably is not enough, but I I am sympathetic to Stewart, and to and to his generation of Lane Tech Alumni. It is very difficult for someone who has spent four years of high school or four years at the University of Illinois, and then somebody comes, and says your mascot, the Indians of lane tech or the fighting a line. Of University of Illinois is somehow reprehensible here in a source of inspiration. Source of all sorts of good feelings for you and all of a sudden. You're supposed to say whoops. I was completely wrong, so it's no less than Roger Ebert. had difficulty giving up the idea of the dancing chief, a line of work in our Bana. He fought that for years, and finally even he came around to say this is patronizing insulting and to some extent racist, and so these changes. Have to be made and right now seems to be the time as as the world shifts its focus through this reckoning on systemic racism, institutional racism, and we think about it, because the chief Alana Weck was was a big deal in Chicago in the State of Illinois, in the last decade, is as a both the alumni, and the and the school, and went over it, and they ultimately got rid of the chief, but what led to that change was it was a grassroots movement? How did that change go about re? Refresh our memories about about these fights that. That have had. We've had over the symbolism. In in recent memory, the chief, a line of work went on for years probably close to twenty years at the beginning various groups both alumni and native American groups again to understand how insulting chief align awake was, and then the main body of alumni reacted against that chief of work. As you say, Justin was huge, he he would come to Chicago Bears Games in soldier field, and produce an ovation from all the align I alumni who would be those games I mean it was always kind of a shock to me. To See how? Popular, and what a kind of charismatic figure chief align awake was, but gradually over time. And then there'd be episodes like we've just had. Like this when when your consciousness is raised, and finally they came around the board of trustees, which is an elected position. At that time. Finally they came around and realized they had to make a change and they're not alone. There's a public university in North Dakota the fighting, Sioux. They had to fight for to change that name and then of course as you mentioned. We have the redskins. The worst of them all nothing less than a Deroga-, I can't believe. I can't believe that Lester I mean that's a racial slur. I was listening to one A. Last week, and they leapt the name. And the fact that that organization and the NFL seem to turn their head because they're making money or not enough people argued about it or whatever it might be, it's offensive. It's offensive to I. Just don't understand how that is is not been changed. It is completely incomprehensible. When I was at sports illustrated, we had a group of people. The NFL writers who finally agreed they would not use the term. They began to understand that redskin was to native Americans. What the N. Word is to African Americans, and that's exactly what it is and somehow. The redskins organization and to us ever lasting disgrace, the national football league have fought to preserve this again and again there's been litigation. There have been things that the federal. Trade Commission I have about three feet of files on all of the things that have happened with Redskins, and still it persists unbelievable I bring up the blackhawks. I don't understand how this is escape. Any kind of conversation about changing their mascot their logo. They seem to somehow. escaped the idea of being lumped in with some of these others. Why is that? Why is it Chicago Blackhawks get away with this and and I know it's about honoring the tradition and everything that we've been talking about, but is there a push and should we be thinking about that name as well? Don't think we need to think about blackhawks. because Blackhawk was an Indian warrior. He was a leader of the sock tribe here in Illinois here in the Midwest. He was an authentic hero to his tribe and. And to native Americans there were a series of skirmishes that became known in history as the Blackhawks wars, and then in World War One. We're going back here. There was a division an infantry division of the United States Army that became known as the Blackhawk Division in honor of the Great Warrior. Blackhawk and one of the guys in that division was Frederic McLaughlin, and it was he who founded the blackhawks, and then named the team after his division, which in turn had been named after the Great War. You're black. Different Front I'll give you that letter, but I'll give you that, but the blackhawks are well aware of Tomahawk is a good example of of a more modern mascot that they changed in made it a bird, or something like that and the idea being. They're aware of it I mean because at the end of the day you can honor history and hotter, native American heritage and culture. But at the end of the day it's a it's a it's A. It's a face on a jersey, and to me I feel like it's. It's a no brainer at this time in our our moment in an American twenty twenty to say you know what a face of a human being, it's just I. Don't know not necessarily mascot material. At many people have made that criticism and the Blackhawks as an organization have fought it. Under the former president and CEO John McDonough a marketing genius, they went so far as to restore the statue of Chief Black Hawk down in Oregon Illinois Forty eight foot statue that the Hawks Organization managed to restore, and it's a most impressive thing if somebody ever wants to go down there, it's about one hundred miles west of here. Near Rockford and the logo that the hawks us that's on the sweaters and on the ice has become. Recognized as one of the best logos in all of sports that is so distinctive, and somehow they have escaped. I would guess they would continue to escape, but we'll see, but this is a different time that we're going through right now as as usual money is. When you when you have a very popular logo and it's all about marketing and money, and it seems to win out, but again it may change Lester Munson sports legal analyst longtime writer at sports illustrated ESPN joins us today on Reset Lester. Great to talk with you. Thanks for joining us. Thank you addressing. And that's Today's reset. You have a question or comment or even a suggestion for segment. Leave on our voicemail line, eight, eight, nine, one, five, nine, nine, four, five I'm Justin, Kauffman thanks for listening. Catch you back here tomorrow.

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"Good morning it's time to get up with the cowboys. Who are making news by not making a decision? What in the world is Jerry? Doing we're GONNA get into that and what's next for the voice straight ahead and the browns house cleaning continues. What are they doing in Baker Odell and Cleveland fans have reason to have hope in twenty twenty and after a season season? Forget the bears. Will they make decision involving Mitchell trubisky. The right move or colossal mistake get up starts right now ed ED. Good morning to you. Happy New Year. Happy new decade. Oh everything today right there you go feeling twelve year old cousin that made to get a seat at the adult table. Go the singer back down. The bet that has stable parts not Age Me Jeremy Fowler. Oh straight off. The top of Washington redskins finally have announced that Ron Rivera. As the team's new head coach he led the panthers to three three straight divisional titles and an appearance in Super Bowl. Fifty nine Rivera's going to be looking at turn the redskins organization around much more on that coming up. But first let's start in Dallas Jason Jason Garrett the waiting game continues goes on and on. It's still no news on the future of Jason Garrett Garrett met again with Jerry and Steven Jones yesterday but no resolution solution was reached with regard to his future with the franchise. I think a Lotta people thought coming into today. We would finally know what's happening. What do you make of this situation? Gratien and how it's affecting Jason Garrett it's terrible like Jerry Jones actually cared about Jason Away. He says he does he should have fired him already. Like he's stretching out turning into some sort of reality show when we know at the beginning of the season it was clear. You guys have a successful season. Jason Garrett gets a new contract you don't Jason Garrett's out no one but no account was this is accessible season. Let them go fire him. They can go be a coordinator somewhere position coach. Maybe even a head coach somewhere else but right now you're just having US talk about. How bad and disappointing his career was everyday on? TV revenues news letting them well. My question is honestly Germany. This is for you is that it almost feels like Jason Garrett still may remain with the cowboys stinking this long. ooh I think some people because I Texas somebody in the organization. They're playing the game. They know he's not GonNa be the head coach. They say we know what this is right. We need to get to the Super Bowl. Keeps the staff intact. But is there an administrative role perhaps for Garrett I mean his options basically are wait until two thousand twenty one b four nothing like wailing and being upgraded Jones. He loves that FAMILY ASPECT VISIT THEIR structure. Right they love they keep their people. I mean you never know but if you're Jerry Jones does your realize if you're going to fire somebody that's one part of it but then you have to have somebody who you're going to replace him to within. It's not really a sexy pick out there for me the sexy pick for the cowboys. Would've I've been Rivera. Because he's a guy who's GonNa still discipline he's a guy that's proven that he can take. You'll lesser talent and make them punch above their weight class. A problem with Jason geared is the fact that he had at one of the most talented racers hitting the very in the NFL and they underachieve. He didn't inspire them. And when you dare for more than ten years sometimes message gets old and either you have to replace the culture. You had to replace replace the players but the problem is who you're going to replace him with. We don't think Matt Rules GonNa come. I will always thought that Jerry Jones really like Lincoln Riley somebody that can bring that splashy coordinator but it's really not a lot of great candidates out there and there's two dynamics going on here if Jerry Jones WanNa keep Jason Garrett that would have been done we saw Jerry Jones Extend Zeke week Elliott over the summer when he's hanging out in Kabul clearly. They're moving on from him and I'm sure Stephen Jones is working behind the scenes with the coaching agents. To make sure maybe Ron Rivera. Wasn't there guy to make sure that the cavs they are still available however what they could be losing and which is really significant is in the assistant pool so for example. If They WanNa Jack del Rio will be part. The staff presumably. He's going to Washington with Ron Rivera. So that is a big variable in every hour. This time of year is critical. There's no salary our CAP. It's the wild wild west good assistance that are in demand are off the board and the x factor now to me. Is Dan Mullen. Dan Mullen just coached in the orange bowl he wants to go with the NFL. At some point in his career he coached Dak Prescott. They were very successful at Mississippi State. I think that's the saying that we need to walk. Absolutely I did check with a source a source said they they do think it's real at least some mild interest he'd have to tweak week that old spread offense though like bringing that happens. If you're Dan Mullen and you come into the situation Jerry Jones we know Jerry wants it his way but we're talking about how there needs to be a sense of control head coach. I mean it's a scary situation because they they're speculation that they also want to keep some of their offense staff because their offense was so good and then. We're also speculating. Think they want to put Jason Garrett somewhere in organization. If I'm an outsider coming in here like I would be terrified of coming into this organization. Where the former head coach? WHO's like the owner son is is somewhere in the building doing some amorphous job in his ear all the time and they got this offense of staff who the head coach was seceded office coordinator? He's in there and they're keeping them around. Like how could you feel like this is your team. And how could your players look at you and hear your message and feel like this guy. We want to follow. We got all these other voices. This guy who's the CO chair for ten years is in the building. The Guy who owns the team won't won't stop talking and offense coordinator who we think may be a head coach. It's a scary situation. There's the dropped into as a young head coach. This team is ready to win. Now I don't you know how you go with the unknown commodity understand that he'd coach Dak Prescott but that doesn't mean they could be successful on the pro level. This team is ready to win now. They have guys that are going to start to retire. Guys going to have a third round draft pick so it's not like not allow. You could backfire with experience. Oh look at Sean mcvay mcvay in Wakefield Sean mcvay inexperienced philps experience so you could backfill with experience with your staff from a disappointing season. Two way disappointing franchises to say the least as the Cleveland. Browns surprised a lot of US vote yesterday moving on for GM doubt John Dorsey after mutually decided to part ways. The browns said in a statement. They could not come to an agreement that would enable Dorsey to remain within the organization surprise to say the least because they didn't make this move move earlier when they got rid of Freddie Kitchens. Now you look at the current. AFC teams since nineteen ninety. Nine from the has some family took over. They will now be moving on to their coach. Ten general managers by the way the recipe for disaster. When you look at the bengals the ravens the steelers and whatnot? Jeremy Jeremy Mike you joining me now. I look at that and Jeremy. You were there on Monday. I was curious about what the mood was like in the building but over the last twenty. Four hours you've got a little a bit of breaking news here. Let me get to the news. I I was told from a source that the browns they want to figure out the coach first and then figure out the general manager. So they're going to go through their interviews. They want their head coach just to have significant say and who the GM is because they want them to have a connection synergy. So they believe a chance of Josh mcdaniels. If he's your guy you can bring them in and say we want somebody and he works well with you. We want to make this work. We're tired of the change but the mood is crazy because I was talking to people there on Monday. And it's like we're fed up man like what do we do now. We're a part of a John Dorsey regime that we brought in a lot of good players star players. This roster probably should have been nine and seven at least with a competent head coach but there was a power struggle like there is every every year in Cleveland. Mike when you look at this. What am I missing from John Dorsey? Because he did draft Baker Mayfield. Who set the record for rookie touchdowns he goes in its two thousand yard receivers and yet? He's only given two years. What am I missing? No that's a fair point and this team won thirteen games over the last two years and tailored to your point. The cupboard is not there. There's a lot of foundational additional pieces now. The offensive line really needs to be repaired. And if I'm the new head coach coming in I want assurances. I want a long term deal that I WANNA make progress at twenty twenty. Maybe the playoffs. Maybe not but more importantly we need stability and we need to make progress. So if I'm Josh mcdaniels or whomever else they're looking at. I WanNa long-term veal and I need to know that we're gonNA blow that graphic away that we're going to be standing shoulder to shoulder for the next three five seven years because we have good pieces in place now. We need time to build the lines and those things things don't happen overnight. Yeah just to clarify the nine hundred ninety nine when the browns returned the NFL. Has Some family. Took over in two thousand Twelve Ryan you in those two knuckleheads over there. You told when you come to my interview Baiter. Don't lose your soccer player turf. It's already getting started. That's what the New Year brings all right. So do you think they should have. Let Dorsey Go. I mean I guess they're not all align you move on from Dorsey. I think it's hard to argue. I mean we didn't didn't even mentioned job. He brought in trump is hard to argue with the decisions that he's made with this war chest that Sashi Brown built up he's allocated well but there's one major decision on on his resume. That should that could get you fired. He hired Fred Kit. So look at these players bringing this quality of good job but he also took the tight ends coach and said I'm a hands over to you and it was a mess. I mean that's one thing I can point to and say he. It's worth getting rid of a guy over there. I don't know if that's enough to get them by Yamane gummy. He makes so many other good decision he gave Cleveland instant credibility he came into credibiity. Wear may want to go there. I mean we're picking them as a potential playoff contender. Maybe a super bowl contender and I think really they went on to all. These tiny pieces forgot where championships are won in the trenches. They used to have one of the best offensive lines in the business. They traded data. Wait for pass rushers for Dell Beckham. I think maybe that's the case. But he's done a tremendous job in creating some tremendous fundamental pieces there and he gave he was adult in the rule. He gave him credibility he also brought over Kareem Hunt and I know that was a controversial. He's when he was a playmate plus Arte. Mba Room was. He wanted to be the only donor room because the speculation was he hired Freddie kitchens in part because he did not control him so that power hungry stuff like I understand all the decisions he may but that backfires see. I think that I don't think it was because he higher wages because because Baker Mayfield was flourish underneath him sue. Often we cater to these quarterbacks on what they decide what they want. That's what Adam Gaze is there with Sam because they have the same agent because he made them feel off. You gotta get leaders men. I think they let the wrong coordinator out of the building. They should've kept Greg Williams there who proved New York the HEACON you'll coach lesser talent performance. Perform okay so you're saying they have to get leaders men. Let's spin it forward Dorsey out presumably the guy coming in is gonna run the whole thing. What kind of coach needs to come in there right now? Well for me. I think you need that general general manager slash head coach. So I'm Mike McCarthy I think they you know they flirted with him a little bit he already has his team assembled. He's a guy that has to credibility instantly when he walks in their room. He's not some fancy coordinator and he's a guy that has a resume that I think players were respect. The Josh mcdaniels is a good guy that people would like to have in their. He's had experiences the head coach. I like okay though I mean. Don't forget that I mean you could say the same thing about Bill Belichick when he wasn't success. We're having that experience. I think is helpful. The other guy who's I've had experiences Jim Caldwell who I think would be very mature adult. CEO type as we look for in this in this business. He's not GonNa be overly concerned though. He's awesome guy with the quarterback he's GonNa make make sure that team believes okay. Let's keep it in the front office because there's one front office on the Browns who is on the way out another is remaining. Give his role in. That is giants general manager. Dave gettleman they'll get. I just finished his second season with the giants. Yesterday he spoke about some of the changes with team was making to compete in the modern. And we have. We're in the process of we've hired four computer folks Software and completely redoing our back end of our college and pro pro scouting systems as Yana literature. Yesterday we've hired a a full time clinician. We're doing a lot of things behind the scenes. And because you know in terms of being forward thinking bruce you know it was we've also have been the last two years back up the analytic and technology piece folks. Let me tell you something if you could see the commercial break dominate. Here is about the climb on the table and jump on the camera right there as he said some buzz words. He thinks we're stupid. Like what he just said. Computer folk and then he said software as if it was a sense all all by itself idiots. Do you think we are like. I don't know him personally but it just comes off as so arrogant the idea that he thinks he can walk out here and trick us into thinking and he knows what he's talking about it in the modern. NFL We hired four computer folk software. Stop it if my head coach. WHO has other options? I'm not going there no matter what type of control. Oh you give me. I can't trust that man to make these progressive decisions. That are going to help us win. But my given the owner. I can't trust that man to be my face in these kinds of moments the real criticism of losing the press conference and not being good at the job -solutely but this I'm not totally sure good at the job but more importantly he's not good at the press conference and Mike Mike. I know you've been in that role I just don't understand. How government is belittling not only the fans but more importantly the media especially in that market? I think need to rise point. Dave really well thought of scouting circles. He knows how to evaluate talent and again if they want to get a certain head coach and everyone says it's going to be Matt Rule. He was there in two thousand twelve and he has a lot of connection windows. Eleven because there's but with that said there is an easy workout. which is you could say to Matt Matt Rule? Look you have final. Say on everything. We want you to work with Dave gettleman. We always reevaluate that. So the way they sequenced this decisions. John Mara was very clear on Monday. Dave Gilman's is there a charge so every coach I know you shake your head I mean it stresses me out because I'm going to start using that strategy. Why just throw in buzzwords every now and then and people think I'm smart because you do gigabytes binary code folk? There is a workaround. Still get the coach you want but you. I have to give the coach everything you have to give the money. The years the budget process. You know the big man sitting here right really doesn't buy anything right. Well you know I've been here right so I I've lived gettleman. Settlement had to deal with them on the radio circuit for the last two years and he just double talks he talks to. He's the smartest man in a rural. He sold list alive. Manning still has something left he took saquon Barkley with the second overall. Pick in. Sodas says he's a he's a yellow jacket guy still remains to be seen but he's a tremendous talent but then just for a year later to still give him twenty three million dollars to take another quarterback benching about the four years. I mean four games. It's puzzling sometimes. It's so many things that he says hasn't really he's good at really evaluating town. What he's bad at is bringing in free agents? We talk about the relationship that you have the veteran players in Carolina and that relationship and we see some of that here with Odell Beckham we see him bringing in saying he's young football team then bring it in Golden Tate then bringing in Ogilby buffet. WHO's older than I am? If you don't come in and it's like what are we. What's the plan? They have no identity net falls right a defeat him but what's his saving. Grace is just like with Jerry. Reese is the fact that he found the quarterback act. We all teach them about the quarterback but the quarterback it looks like he can be a player so they gave him another year. If I'm a head coach I don't know if I wanNA come in knowing that. I could be playing for coaching John for working for now. The general manager in a short period of time. Because he's you know he's he's walking align to that because the ideas you say they can work around it but the marriage the giants. They've if our daily committed to get him. It's hard to walk that back at Ryan so at the end day if I was representing coach and say look there are no perfect jobs. There are no perfect situations but if you believe leaving your ability if you believe in Daniel Jones there are some pieces here now. They did. Miss a nate solar the offensive line still needs a lot of work. So look it's an opportunity. It's still being the head coach in the NFL NFL of a New York team so they will still get a good coach. Even though it's not an ideal situation from one GM Dave gettleman to another one gigabytes data Paul Ryan Pace. You're on the clock despite a disappointing season for Mitchell trubisky. The bears announced that he is returning as the team's starter in twenty twenty. There were however some some changes. The team fired four coaches from the offensive staff including offensive coordinator. And then you look at what happened. The last six weeks of the season season. And this is what I think. Gm Ryan Pace has had on you look at the record. Obviously passing yards. Everything improved but dominique. Are you really buying this statement. Because because from my point of view on the outside looking in D- in the Arizona cardinals say you know. What Josh Rosen Guy? By the way Kyla Murray were drafted number. One I'm glad we got Tannenbaum Outta here because in general managers lie that was a general manager generally lying I at least I hope it was because would Mitchell trubisky show like. It's hard to come back with this guy. Considering the way that he performed. I know we got better in part because the coaching around him got better. They started moving out of the pocket and running the ball with a little more. That's encouraging however it's hard to. It's it's impossible to argue that. He's not wildly inaccurate. And that's tough in this league to be wildly inaccurate. Like he is and I don't know how you can fire four coaches his none of which designed to place or call the place. That's Maggie and none of them throw the ball. It seems like some heads had the role because this season was a disappointment and the heads. They're old I can't I can't see how they were responsible for his underachievement. They didn't throw those back passes and they weren't they. Were not the ones calling the plays during but I'm wondering advanced the conversation a little bit because while you say it's the wrong move to bring back trubisky. Barred I look at you. Well then okay. Who Do you replace them with that? You have no choice right. You have to stick with them because really this is is a team that went all in after the Khalil. Mack trait this is a team that was built to win now. So you have to stick with what you know. What you have to do is what they did in? Tennessee is brand. Get some healthy competition with the has to be somebody cheap. So it's funny that you guys brought up. Josh Rosen. Because I think Josh Rosen will be the perfect person to give opportunity potentially play the role of Tanta Hannah Hill to push them now. We don't really know who Josh Rosen. Is as a player because he's been on two of the worst football team back to back years two years in a row but remember when he was coming. Well he was. Thought up. One at a better quarterbacks coming out with Lamar Jackson with with with Sam Darnold and I think that'd be opportunity to give him an opportunity to compete. But it also to push Mr Bisky. Did you have a cheap replacement in case He. Oh he can't stop won't need to tell you the truth it's time he's here. And the truth is Ryan Pace has to make this work at all costs. 'cause when I was asking around to people in the League about Cam Newton where he might have thought Chicago would be the natural place they said. No No no Ryan Pace Loves Mitch. Trubisky he needs to make this work for his own tenure and so the bears release hoping that if they get a better offensive line they get capable tight end and catch more than fourteen passes in a season. Get another became Komo unqualified quarterbacks. Mitchell trubisky is the only want to have less than ten yards per completion. He is not he has not been. You can go after Teddy Bridgewater you can trade for Andy Eddie. Don't they WANNA get rid of him. I dare you can go with Cam. Newton like anybody. His job is not dependent on how well Mitchell trubisky. He does his job depending on how well the bears doing. He wants to attach his future. Mitchell trubisky risk then more power to them but I don't believe that if they get another opportunity to get somebody good they're going to bring him in there. I don't think he's silly enough. The only thing is neat though. Because of what Bart said. They're built to win now. You can't go getting Andy Dalton because he's not that Philip. Are Tom Brady of that. You Change Your offense like the Ravens did it. Last year mid season they went it from from Joe flacco to Lamar Jackson made the playoffs. Your coats figure out how to coach. Stop making excuses and players in there and figure out how to win but you also gotta fit salary for salary cap you know they have some guys and players only high in the salary cap. got here by reason. There was a Brooklyn versus Nick Sabin. We've bought we see. In the College Football playoff you stakes at play in today's citrus bowl. Matchup Supper both take on this game and if Tom Brady and the Patriots are going to beat the titans on Saturday he cannot be the most important player on the field. We'll tell you who must be at straight ahead. I'll get up to watch a get up on a New Year's day we'll tell you what's coming up in five minutes. We'll talk horrible versus Sabin. What is at stake for both coaches in the big game and patriots in trouble at eight thirty five and then and what are we doing? Starting the man right next hill. UK But first a little sneaky. Hembo time who was the only coach to beat both Nick Sabin and Jim Harbaugh Harbaugh in a bowl game. The answer right after this. Here's the thing saving money with. GEICO is almost better than playing pickup basketball. Because there's always that guy who joins your game. He never passes the rock. He constantly bricks threes. And who completely hack you. And then put his hands up and say no foul no foul with gyco. It's easy to switch and save on car insurance. No need to fake. An ankle sprain because you're absolutely exhausted so switch and save with GYCO. It's almost better than sports. Okay back with a little sneaky Hembo time. Who was the only coach to beat? Both Nick Sabin and Jim Harbaugh in a bowl game. Let's take it to Diana M. Mr Take such good question. They both wanted to answer. Mr T. you go I I would say going back to Jim. Harbaugh at Stanford someone that's around a while ago. Kirk Ferencz at Iowa Okay Diana and that was not my choice. Now mainstream says DAB. Oh Bob stoops okay. Mr T. you are you're wrong Diana you our rights. Come yes bob stoops so both. I'm starting a new year winning streak already even Google it all right. Well let's get onto this and one of the most anticipated matchup of the season. FBI gives Alabama a sixty nine percent chance to win the virgo. Citrus bowl in Michigan versus Michigan and Vegas agree. He's has the Crimson tide at a center and a half point favorite. But that's bills trouble for Jim Harbaugh at his tenure in Michigan the Wolverines Owen. Nine straight. It up as an underdog he's also going to and nine against the top ten opponents and for Sabin this is just his fifth bowl game at Alabama. Which isn't a National Championship playoff game? He's gone too into in two in those games and most recently losing the sugarbowl to Oklahoma after two thousand thirteen so our vision Swaggie. You guys are down there taking away. What is Ryan and Smith? Hey great job. They're holding down the Fort Swag and I are out here in Orlando we're GONNA be here for the Virgo Citrus Bowl. Se Nationla later on today. And this is Alabama in Michigan Michigan and Ryan just mentioned it. It's Kinda weird to feel like we're talking about the College Football playoff without Alabama but we are so. Let's say today just for the sake of conversation that harbaugh about beat David. How does the conversation change in college football if that happens? The narrative in the offseason is great. But we all know that this boils down the gym all in Ohio State. Like it'll be a feel good story and everybody had talked about it. It May Lead some conversation recruiting about Michigan being onto way To beat Alabama is a big deal. I know a lot of people forget. They said it'd be a Cold Day in Alabama is not in the College Football playoff whereas coal in Florida right now absolutely really. This is a sign but for Jim Harbaugh in Michigan. The conversation and narrative won't change at all until they beat Ohio state. So interesting you say say that because in my heart of hearts I feel like if he could say that he's beat Sabin matter. What the game is it's still changes at least a little bit? Okay it does feel like some of these teams. Lsu For instance catching up with Alabama in the SEC and in college football as a whole they of course lost the national championship last year. To Clinton what Stevens emphasis just knowing that some some of these teams are nipping on their heels. Look there there's A. There's a process that he goes by and we've talked about this for so many years. That won't change. I mean do you think about it Alabama own. They lost two games this year and we are literally having conversations about it being over. No let's give the other teams credit for stepping up to the standard that Alabama said. That Bo is one. The one that is most consistent and Clemson and build a his program is on way having a tremendous amount of success. LSU This year have an out of this world season but can they continue it. Everybody has like is it a one hit wonder or do you start to trend in the direction. Action of woods. DABUMA has competing against Nick Sabin. Nick Sabin won't change though. Why would he changed the formula? The formula still words when you talk about the two losses that he eh to one team. That's going to play in the National Championship and the Auburn team. That got him home in a in a robbery game and now they have another opportunity against Michigan. Eleven wins wins being a down year. That means you a pretty good team. You're comparing Alabama to Alabama. Is the whole thing all right. Listen Taylor you should have seen Marcus Spears last night. With streamers with the New Year's hat blow in those little Kazoo things I mean it was a lot of fun here in Orlando to forget it. Forget it happy new year the Laura when I grow up away from this get up. I hope on his Co. Swag you speak at a cool. It's going to be freezing here in foxborough Saturday. Tom Brady and the Patriots Patriots. Take on Ryan Tannehill Derrick Henry and the titans in the AFC wildfire around. That's not a misprint. The Patriots won able to secure the after losing their the dolphins and week. Seventeen eighteen bill belichick heads up to say about facing the titans. Tennessee's a real good football team. A lot of things well Very explosive offensively probably explosives anybody. We've seen in a while in a sound on defenses. You expect with Mike and Dean Great Opportunity here to to advance an What sort of work for all year so? I think we're ready to go be ready to go. We're not ready yet to go. Maybe maybe a New Year but it's the same old tone from bill. Belichick much has been made of the Patriots not getting the first round by but at least for this week they will be at home and that is a major advantage when you look at under bill. Belichick Patriots are twenty three and playoff games at home. Compare that to the road playoff games or the pats were four and struggled to win the turnover points differential back here at the desk Diana. I want to start with you because you've spent a lot of your time with Tennessee from the Patriots perspective. What's more concerning the form of of Ryan Tannehill or the fact that my dribbles going up against his former coach Bill Belgium? I think he's got issues with both of them. You know obviously my group has got tons of experience as a player Egger in Foxborough but this is his first playoff game as a coach and this entire titans roster guy. Thirty of these guys have never played a playoff game including Ryan Tannehill so so I think just starting with rebels experience being playing in the big game is certainly good at help. GotTa figure he's going to attack this game talk to his team about making sure that they don't get overwhelmed or intimidated by Foxborough not to be scared off by the Patriot way. In fact yesterday the New England media was asking. What is the Patriot way? He said you know it's that street were. The movie theater is right outside right there. That tells you everything that coaches doing going to make sure that he's telling himself this isn't a big deal and making sure that these guys are buying in as for Ryan Tannehill. What he's done this season when they made that switch from Marcus Mariota Tannahill and said Susan ignited their offense and I think we talked so much? About what China has done since that switch but really the stories with Tannahill did before the switch how he was supporting Marcus. Mariota and learning this offense and supporting and being in that rolls the backups. When he did step in he's he's able to make the transition he has and then we've got Derrick Henry? There's so many a part of this offense and even defense that I think is going to give New England a really really difficult time at home. What Johnson so much information so fast to somebody else gives them words? That was good. Young Keivonnis AWW. Happy Delicate was good. But the reason why I brought up the micro unique and I know you got some video on the Patriots defense. Is that Bill Belichick against former assistance. Thank Hugh Hembo fifteen and twelve looking. Nick Sabin WHO's undefeated against former systems. I know variables a former player. But defensively you think the Patriots are really lacking especially the last week so they're strengthener. Team is their secondary and they don't have much pass. So they do a lot of zero blitz variations of zero. We can watch the tape now where they have. Yep All these people up front. Stefan Gilmore in zero covered with no help behind him. He's been playing this aggressively all year so he sees fitzpatrick set up. And you see them. Sit Down right there and it gets run baht. So He's a smart player and he learned from that and the dolphins new coming in his game. They're gonNA have a bunch of zero blitz again it's the same zero blitz variation this time Gilmore's in the slot. You see what what happens Fitzpatrick gives the same drop and Gilmore gets out of there. It's impossible zero. Blitz is only work. When they're not expecting you can't you can't go into a game zero blitz and put your corners no matter how good they are? Put them on that island and not get home. In the fact that they won't completely commit to the zero blitz. They're dropping linebacker allows fitzpatrick in the future quarterback Tannehill to buy time and no corner can succeed out there with no hills in something or no. That's been a narrative all year right. They crowded the line of scrimmage and say hey our guys is a better in your guys understanding that you don't have enough people to block the people that's coming but where the adjustment for the Patriots is when you get blocked as zero blitz blitzer you drop up because you've already eaten up the block and you want to make sure that you understand. The middle of the field is wide open. So they're dropping those linebackers out trying to steal one. That is a hot route is quick slammed because you're taught to sit in understanding that vulnerability of Cobra Zero Blitz Eva Cross cross routes or behind. It won't let me ask you a quick. WHO's the one one guy who has to step up other than Brady to win this game of the Patriots? Well I mean James White to me. Somebody has to be the other because we know where we're going to get from from Julian Element. I think the chemistry three between muhammed new embrace starting to build. But I think it has to be white. White is their second leading receiver. And he's a guy that's mismatch because if anything if there's a part of the defensive unit of Tennessee that struggles is their linebackers and covers against running backs and white is one of the best in the business at this point. It looks like the Patriots are vulnerable. But I feel like we say that every single. They're not gonNA do any of the stuff that they do. Let's back to our breaking news. We talked about this earlier. The Washington redskins today announcing Ron Rivera. As as the team's head coach he led the panthers to three straight divisional titles an appearance in Super Bowl. Fifty Rivera is going to be looking at turn around a redskins organization that has really they've been on life support. In recent years both offensive minds are GONNA essentially try to turn that defense around. That was one of the worst in the league. The problems they can't get off the field field on third down the worst league because of that they give up nearly four hundred yards per game and spot the other team four touchdowns per game. You can't win. I liked that so Diana now that the deal is done. Why do you think the redskins pushed so hard to get Rivera's their head coach Ron Rivera name went once it came across as he was going to be the lead candidate? Here it seems so unsexy to me but then at the same time really smart of Dan Snyder. Because you look at all the former coaches brought in Joe Gibbs fasching Mike Shanahan right has won superbowl before J.. Ruin the credit of having the family name grew right. So here's a name. That is almost similar with Disciplined and bringing in a tough defense. I think in terms of culture. I think this was a number one point of agenda for Dan Signer and I've sat on his desk many of times for the last few years crushing Dan Snyder as an owner for his decision making along with team President or now how former team President Bruce Allin this to me seemed like a really good move in the right direction with moving on from Allah that was also. We just saw the graphic about the defensive numbers part. When you look at that if you do bring in Jack del Rio who's got a history around quickly? It's more about Ron Rivera with Jack del Rio for meet Ron Rivera absolutely but also when you look at route riverboat well he's going to do is put in his defense but down now he has a translator where he's not the guy over there. That's the head coach that you look get when you offense on the field. He's looking at his in his playbook trying to figure out where he's going to call it next. I think that allows them to be the leader of men. He brings him an instant identity. A D which is what this team remember a couple years. This team was a team that was six and two leading the division before our Smith got hurt a lot of talent on his football team and now with the number two pick defenses being comfortable and being able to put up points ninety. Put Chase young ops a monotone sweat opportunity to out. You don't have to address and you got coordinator you'll you'll have you got a coordinator that knows how to coordinator head coaching experience. Ron Rivera can hand it over to him and he can do the job of rebuilding aggressor which is hugely important. I like would they got going and I think that maybe let Trent Williams say you know what back Thanksgiving because we need all right. It's drama swells around on the giants and the cowboys it would be to ask. What are they doing? We attempt to answer that very question with the man right next to me next. We can't be Trinidad on a field. Bits to ensure heavy. What are we doing in Bosnia on a cow pasture? We play Trinidad. What are you doing? What are you doing in that? Every single morning I wake up I look in the mirror. And by the way I think the producers today are asking what are we doing host in that speaks for itself but I got a few the. Nfl what are we doing right now to start with you giants. I'm not sure there's a person in the world who saw the press conference yesterday from Gettleman who didn't say. What are we doing? NEAK NICK I speak for giants fans on their. What are we doing? I mean if you haven't seen it yet you certainly need to look it up and listen to it. It's it was new year's I mean it's any confidence that you might've had in a guy and it shows kind of a track record to me of arrogance and I can't say that he is arrogant because I don't know him but anytime he interacts with the media. And it's important. That's part of your job. As a general manager as one of the faces of the team it's interact with the media because a lot of the players on the team they get their perception of you what they see in the media so let's not pretend like just losing. The press conference is a relevant. It's shows that he's arrogant and he thinks he can just say anything and we're going to buy it you remember when he told us that he was all smarter than us about Daniel Jones. I know you were talking about earlier. Bart how he somehow tried to convince us that they could move forward ally manning. He also told us that He's responsible for eight super bowl. I couldn't find that on the resume either it but I'll tell you what they're all day got him. He's going to have a lot of money to spend this all season. Because manning money's coming off the Bush a lot of that he's going to know how to spend that they're gonna a half to be. I don't know what type of oversight would have if they bring in a matt rules. They bringing a Mike McCarthy. They're gonNA have the last caller who they bring in to build this team because he's been sending mixed messages just since he's been here. Have you told her you live. Manning was still had a lot of gas in the tank and then they went out with the second overall pick and took saquon Barkley which is a finishing piece for only four years later to pick in high and taking drums and not really telling us really what ideas this football team wins you you you you you. Who are we doing the east move onto the Dallas cowboys as their fan and meteoroid as Jerry Jones and company? What are we doing? But from my Porna- view bark and I'm thinking of Jason Garrett. He should be asking the question. What are we doing with this delay? Because it's only gonNA hinder himself looking for future jobs. Well the reports are true through that day maybe moving him up to the management position. Because you understand that Jerry Jones really loves Jason Garrett looks at him as a son because he was a player. But if I'm honest on a still be a head football coach in his league I'm asking what are you doing. You'll please let me know second meeting two meetings. What are we talking about? I need to know what my future is so I can make plans my family I to make plans to reform the problem is Jerry. Jones is what are we doing type of guy and sometimes it works out and you can go through all of these things that he's made he kind kind of floated out there. Jason Witten as a coach. What are we doing there? That's that's a wild you're GONNA YOU'RE GONNA move your coats up to up the ladder and keep them in the building like that. That doesn't make any sense. You'RE NOT GONNA pay your franchise quarterback like he does all these things and somehow continues to find success in life so no one's GonNa stop him from doing. What are we doing type of move? Well we went to big fan bases right from New York. Giants The Dallas Cowboys. I think today one o'clock we may have another fan base and the Michigan Wolverines game segue Minnesota Nurses Auburn. And and. Then you've got Michigan Alabama two games right here on the ESPN family networks. Today at one o'clock Jim Harbaugh leads his number fourteen Michigan wolverines which I think his back against the wall nobody nobody asked him on. ESPN anything Taylor. I've got a question. What are the sixers? Do not come but asked the man next to you. Well you know what let's do. That pace was hosting the sixers. Joel embiid I would need soreness. Check this out. Okay Ben. Simmons is your team today but dummy toss a bonus this says it's my game with that slam dunk over Norville Pell yes Lebron's he brings it every single day. I'm not sure you can trust Ben semi though. Let's get to that in just a second. But later in the second page of Nineteen Justin Holiday Strips Ben Simmons. TJ MCCONNELL PASSING DOWN TO TJ Warren. WHO throws it down? Sixers US teaching McConnell Right now he brings her lineup. They used to have exactly. He had eleven and ten last night. Third Quarter Pace with a seventy nine seventy five forty nine lead and check that that out. I mean that that says it all right there. It says a lack of attention because it's the same team that beat the box a couple of days ago. Yeah it's unbelievable when you look at it and you know at at the end of the day sixers lose this one fifteen ninety seven and let's see what Tobias. Oh here we go check that out. This is how the seventy sixers have been with. Ben Simmons Look at the win loss with Ben Simmons but without Joel embiid twenty nine with them three and four without him. And you see everything else and how it works out with and beat out of the Lineup Simitis into scoring and assists go up but everything else seems to fall apart a little bit. So let's talk a little bit about this. What do you make of the seventy sixers? Losing their third straight game since beating the bucks folks. I noticed seventy six zero team but sorry about that look. They got validate that win against the bucks and they haven't validated. They've got on the road for three straight games. Still have to go to Houston it. When I look at Ben Simmons? I'd like to have him on my fantasy team Because the ball's hands they play fast he puts up numbers. But you know what. Those numbers don't correspond winning all the time. And the other thing is I don't WanNA see anymore video. Ben Simmons shooting threes in summer course until he can make it three in an actual game. Forget about the video so like what you said about taking them is. Hey here's you're going to be a great player. Jacoby great player. You've got to be able to step up pull up fifteen feet knock-down jump. Oh you got to catch the ball ball reversal step into it and make an open. Three his game is incomplete. Yeah he can pass Balkany push them on dreads he can do all those things But can he be a guy that you win a championship with until he can shoot it. He cannot and the same thing with Tobias Harris. A hundred eighty million dollars for tobias hours. Never been an all-star all star never been roster passed on Jimmy Butler. Yeah how about. I'm driving the ball. He can't disappear in Games. He's got to be there each and every night like if you're good enough to beat the Bucks Fox then you've got to Orlando and validate that and they did not do that in the playoffs. You've got to bring you each and every day. You gotTa make adjustments. You got to be ready for the next game. I'm I'm not sure that the SIXERS DNA has the ability to get to the next game and be ready with or without meat. You know this team is eight nine against teams with winning records. It's not only that they're number. Fifteen in the league. Offense has not going to get it done in terms of a playoff team all right. Let's talk about running the floor. What do you think coach more? NBA Action from last night. GotTa start with Luca Donncha. Watch it thirty five points. Ten rebounds seven assists where do you rank him among the NBA's elite whose NBA MVP waiting to do this twenty years twenty. What does he do? He's just differ. He can shoot the basketball got improve his straight makes the game easier for other people seized four gets to live. What does he do when it comes down to puts up video game numbers offers end? They win. Let's talk about. They beat the Hornets one nine ninety two three players with twenty points is this team contender for the NBA finals team to win a chip hip Jamaica. Four guys in the lineup Nike score thirty points and their role players. Marcus Smart Cantor they come up the vents they play the restraints. This team play to the strengths Johnson. I loved the addition of Kemba Walker. Yet no Kyrie no problem. I guess this team rockets Santa Big night last night beat the nuggets. One thirty two one zero four. Get this twenty eight for Westbrook. thirty-five for Harden are they starting to Gel as a team. They aren't as you're getting a better understanding how people run that Dublin. Hard throwing out of it. Not Not settling attacking westbound to freeze yesterday. Why because when the ball came out he got tate and then made a plane scored and Erin Gore? Erik Gordon Back is you Gordon. It gives them another perimeter threat. I really liked the way Houston's another perimeter threat on a team that does nothing put shoot. Three's unbelievable to what that's going to be like coach. Thank you all right Jason and Garrett he's still the cowboys head coach. Why the delay? And what does this mean for the team. The Dallas drama at the top of the hour. GEICO presents another voicemail from your roommate. Hey I got some bad news. 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Hour 1: Allegations Against the Washington Football team

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Hour 1: Allegations Against the Washington Football team

"Good morning welcome to get up a lot to get into including scandal in DC allegations of sexual harassment against members of Daniel Snyder, inner circle will have the very latest plus unhappy Cowboy, and it's not deck Ezekiel Elliot went off on twitter and we'll tell you what's behind that. And Zion he left the bubble suddenly. What has to happen for him to make it back before the season resumes? And once again Good Morning I am Ryan Smith in for my Greenberg. This is get up. We will be here with you until ten fifteen a m when I take begins, but today we begin with a big story out of DC a lot going on in sports, but this is the biggest at broke last night, and it was a story published by The Washington Post, fifteen former female employees of the Washington football team and two female reporters have accused members of the team's Front Office of sexual and verbal harassment. Now the accusation span from two thousand, six to two, thousand and nineteen. They include longtime radio. Voice Larry Michael Director of Pro Personnel Alex, Santos and his assistant Richard Man. All members of owner, Daniel Snyder inner circle, all three suddenly depart of the organization within the past week, Snyder and former longtime general manager, Bruce Allen have not been accused of harassment, but some of the women said it was unlikely. Snyder and Alan didn't know about the behavior. The team is hired a DC attorney to review their culture and the allegations of workplace misconduct and one of the accusers Emily applegate spoke out about the culture. I had a you know week. Maybe are so. That was great. I was like yes, this is exactly what I wanted. What was explained to me and this is going to be great and then you got your I like. Screaming at you for something that you? It's not your fall and then makes a comment. You about what you're wearing and it just snowballs from there and it really took. Most people know time to comment on. My appearance, no snyder has had no comment, but head coach. Ron Rivera who was hired this off season. He sent this text to ESPN reporter John. Crime he said the biggest thing is that we have to move forward from this and make sure everybody understands we have policies we will that we will follow and that have an open door policy with no retribution plus my daughter works. Works for the team and I sure as hell not going to allow any of this so for more on this explosive story we bring in Jeff Darlington now Jeff I know you've been in and around the Washington facility covering the team. You've been there probably one hundred times or more, you've mentioned. What's your reaction to this story? Given your observations of being in and around the organization. Ryan, it's interesting because I certainly can't speak to the allegations that these women women are talking about when it comes to the Washington redskins organization Washington Organization but what I can tell you. Is that having been there? Having spent so much time around the organization and also having visited all thirty one other teams numerous times is that there is really no place in the League like that organization when? When it comes to the class system that exists, there's Dan Snyder in his inner circle, and there's everybody else and I can tell you speaking with dozens of people over the years. This is a widely held feeling about the organization that if you're not in that inner circle, you're generally not treated all that well. It is certainly a cultural issue when it comes to the Washington football organization. Now Look Ron Rivera is coming. There is one of the most respected people in the NFL Bruce. Allen is no longer a part of the organization, but Dan Snyder remains the owner. This is certainly something worth monitoring to see if just because he has made changes when it comes to Ron Rivera if he himself is willing to also make changes across the organization, so certainly not going to come as a surprise to many people who cover the organization whether it's local media or Or lower level members of the organization they simply have not been treated well for years within that building, and unless something is changed by Dan Snyder that will continue to happen Ryan. It is very interesting. The Dan Schneider doesn't have come and Ron. Rivera speaks out and says we're trying to change the culture. Jeff stick around. We'll talk about this with you a little bit more as we go forward, but let's now welcome in espn, NFL reporter Kimberly. Martin also Damien Woody, booger. and Kimberly I want to start with you. You've covered the team during this time period. What did you make of these accusations? Given what you saw in and around the organization. I was a beat writer for the Washington Post. I was not surprised by any of this. As a woman and covering the NFL, not surprised by any of this I'm also a little concerned that people seem so surprised because we had the cheerleader story a couple years ago, written by the New York Times, so these situations keep propping up with this owner so. while. These allegations are heinous in their disgusting. There's there's been some top before. This shouldn't really be surprising to anyone. And that's what makes us I think for so many people so troubling Damien woody because. You heard the cheerleaders story. Now this story and you wonder what's happening there. What are your thoughts on this? Well first of all from a macro perspective, this kind of gives you a glimpse into what women go through an in sports industry period. That shouldn't be surprising to anyone as unfortunate as it is and. Just speaking to the Washington football team, usually toxic environment is as a result of toxic leadership and we see from the Washington football team Tom at multiple. We've seen multiple incidences where there's been at you. Or incidences where it involved women within that organization so. The question I have is where is Dan Snyder? Is He in a bunker somewhere? Because we're seeing wrong, who just came into the organization would just are, but organization have be the face of the franchise on on multiple fronts that. Talking about the name change the organization and now? With this arm shoe store from the Washington Post. Almost seems as if he's the defacto leader in all of this, even though Dan Schneider runs the ship, Booker, look at this situation and I wonder what's happening from the top. Why isn't Dan Snyder saying something I wonder what you think about that. I think it's not a should be out saying something, and and just to Kinda, open the openness story up a little bit. This is a continuation kind of what we've seen in. The black lives. Matter Movement how you treat black people whether you're commenting on how they look what they're wearing. Women have been dealing with this for a long time, so I just think this story is just a continuation of what we've been dealing with in our country for the last several weeks. If you're the Washington risking and more importantly. If you're the NFL you gotTA, do a thorough investigation and found out what happened was going on I. Think it's a shame that Ron Rivera. WHO's only been on the job a few months. He's kind of the adult the room he's come in, and he's basically said Hey. My daughter works for this team. I'LL BE DAMNED IF WE'RE GONNA. Hab Friedman like that tour women, my daughter working in the building. That's what. What you WanNa hear from leadership. That's what you want to hear from someone in charge I think people in Washington wished that the person talking was not the head coach more the owner I think that will come across better, but even nevertheless I still appreciate what Ron Rivera is doing and I hope they get to the bottom of what's happening because this come down to a simple rule three people how you want to be treated. That's what we've been. been discussing on the black lives matter movement. That's what we're discussing now with women, the ethical treatment of how you treat people, you should not be singled out for your physical features. What you're wearing the color of your skin. You should be singled out for the job you do. How will you do it? And I think that's what ultimately black people and women won't the same yeah and guys I think in Kimberley I wanted direct this to you I think. Think about the paradox that these women went to according to this article feeling like they had no one to turn to about these complaints, or they could lose their job I think one of the quotes mentioned in there was. There's a thousand people who could who would want the job that you have so that. Put them in a difficult spot. What do you make of this? And how women were treated in in the redskins organization in and around him. Speak as a journalist I feel like that's. Our story when you're a woman journalist covering. The NFL whether your business whether you're in any industry when you're in a male dominated industry, you understand that. Sometimes people aren't gonNA. Have back sometimes. You don't know where to go. As a reporter know I've covered a lot of teams. I've been a lot of places. You know somebody's events where you're out. You know there's there. Inappropriate things said to you, and you brush it off and to me what I want. People understand is for me reading that story as somebody who cover this team for the Washington. Post is somebody who's covered the NFL for over a decade. There's so many things that come back. You you pushed to the back of your head for so many years because I've got to do the job. I used to cover Damien woody I used to cover the jets like there a lot of things that that I've sort of had to just say like okay. Push through that to do the job. And when you read other women talking about their their situations, it really does come back into is emotional because there, there's so much mental baggage and mental gymnastics that you have. Have to just sort of Wade through to stand in the locker room to stand in a press room to do this job and to and to stand in. Not Make the story about you. You don't WanNa be the problem, but somebody sometimes you have to speak up and you hope that people in positions of power will listen, and you wonder if this will change things. Things within that organization that will be key guys. Thank you so much. Stay right there. We'll come back to and and talk more about this, but the NFL by the way released a statement on this this morning. They said quote. These matters as reported are serious, disturbing and contrary to the NFL's values. Everyone in the NFL has a right to work in an environment free. Free from any and all forms of harassment Washington is engaged outside counsel to conduct a thorough investigation into these nations, and the club has pledged that it will give its full cooperation to the investigator, and we expect the club and all employees to do so we will meet with the attorneys upon the conclusion of their investigation and take any action based on the findings. are a lot more coming up on. Get up including the D. Word in Dallas. I'm talking to divorce. See which of our experts think Dak could end up somewhere else after twenty twenty and we've already revealed Patrick Mahomes Christian McCaffrey Donald and Stefan. Gilmore S members of the ninety nine club. We'll unveiled the fifth and final member. That's coming up on get. Get up is brought to you by GEICO. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance, and let's go down to big D cowboys running back. Ezekiel Elliott man that he'd go on a twitter rant yesterday, showing frustration at those who question that he isn't among the elite running backs in the NFL. Here's a peak at some of his tweets. Take a look at this. This went around yesterday morning. There are a lot of great back in this league, but. But I don't understand why the media has to talk down on my game just to uplift other bats, we are all talented football players, and can all ball, and then this check the stats since I entered this league. I have dominated year in year out. Put some respect on my name. Then this women live men line the stats dome. Do your homework then this almost eighteen hundred scrimmage yards and fourteen td's with no training camp, and now I'm not the same back. He was mad. Let's bring in our guys to talk about this. Tell you what he's not playing. There's bring back in bigger. We've got Dominique Foxworth with us and Damien woody alright so. Guys! Let me start with you. What does he have a point here? Is He disrespected? And where was he ranked for you among the current backs? Well is disrespected. Just depends on who you're talking to. He's right. There are a lot of great bags in this league, and you don't have to put some of those guys down the elevator. Another gap what I would say about Ezekiel Elliott based on the style of office that they run into Dallas. He's the best fit for he's led the League Russian three hundred or four years. He's been in in the league and the. The one year it didn't he missed six games, and so if you're looking for a guy that can get the ball and come down, he'll and punish defense for twenty five. Thirty cares there is no better. There is no better back in this league. That can do that than Zeke Elliott now the catch years some of these new AIDS offense that come out and major in eleven personnel, which is one back one tidying. Receivers. You won't the guy that can catch the football like a Christian McCaffrey coming off his historic season last year when he was a thousand rushing and thousand, receiving a lot of people are on that as the new flavor of the month. But if you're asking me the guy that I want to carry the mail, the guy that I want to carry football down in and down out there is no better and I mean no better back in this league. Ezekiel Elliot's so I. Understand where he's coming from like he is to me. He is the cream of the crop as far as the pure running back position. And Damien I gotta come to you because I look at him and I say maybe he invites more scrutiny because he plays for Dallas. But how does he rank among the running backs to you? Will first of all before I say that the media has been bashing. Zeke Elliot I bleed out to me as I would like to know, but I know from me if I'm ranking running back. Zeke third, because also got you also have to take into consideration and talk about it where the League where he gets I, mean we're we're in a and lead where a lot of a lot of these teams like to exploit back the backs in the passing game and while I. Feel like the is is the type of back that that will come down hill and just Ramuda death. There's no question about that. There are a lot. Lot of backside here that can exploit you in the past game, unlike Ezekiel Elliot does on on on the weekend and week out basis I know for me if I'm if I'm ranking I'm putting Zeke third I got Christian McCaffrey. One Christian McCaffrey to me is the closest thing to Marshall Faulk that we see in this league right now and then number two I'm taking saquon and I know they're say doesn't have the personnel that that. Zeke has with Dallas. Office, line and such, but when I come back when I look at the total package, I'll take saquon over I Z. Third, so maybe the fastest of his game aren't there as much as those other guys, but still need. This guy is dominant. He does it year in year out, and he is in many ways. The Dallas Cowboy offense starts with him in many ways I. Mean I think he's a great running back and I I I'm with. With Damian, I'm not sure who's bashing him or WHO's not respect and his name but I would throw out there. I know he's not necessarily the receiver that Christian McCaffrey is, but Zeke is a really good third down back. He can catch the ball. They do have personnel packages were they lined him up in the slot to run corner routes in option routes. Routes, so he has more pass catching capability than I think that people expect out of him because he's such a good running back, and because the comparison is Christian McCaffrey. Who could absolutely starting this league as just the slot receiver? People think Zeke catch, but Zeke can catch. He's a receiving threats to three down back. He's everything that you want and offense. Offense running back in this league, but he's right. There's a lot of good ones in this league and it gets really hard. That's one of the worst things about this job. When you have to say someone's good. It seems like you're implying that someone else's bad. Which I hope. No one's saying that about Zeke. Because he's right. The numbers don't lie. He's been. been one of the most productive backs in the league since he entered, and he's clearly one of the cream of the crop. I think we all agree with that and I want to bring you to this game. Changers brought to you by the Marines. We're revealing a new member of the ninety nine club in. Madden NFL twenty-one every day this week on. Today's honor goes to the saints wide. Receiver Michael Thomas Laura Rutledge has more on this seat superstar. Going to look to throw. and. Is, a fair debate. WHO's the Best Catcher in the League? But only one set the NFL's Rutland in receptions last season you simply. Card? He was the only player in the league to average more than one hundred yards receiving burr game. He's allusive shot and medium route running paired with his premier pass. Catching ability has made the most targeted receiver in the NFL. PA! Michael. Up Scene. told us! Welcome to the ninety nine clubs Mike Thomas. But number one. According to Man Thomas has nearly eighty more catches than the next closest receivers since he entered the league. In Two thousand, sixteen is four hundred seventy career receptions are by far the most by a player in his first. NFL seasons so I WANNA. Bring the guys back in and dominate. I want to start with you because I seem to recall last Friday I was here and we were talking about top wide receivers, and you said something to the effect, I just want to I. Want to misquote you, but it was something like he's definitely not my number one. He's more like a great tight end. You down on that now IAGO. Get my Kamo coming at me like my legs. Elliot's coming at these other members that are media, so maybe I went a little far with that however I. The difference I was making between him and other receivers is he's not a big play guy. He's obviously one of the best in well deserving ninety nine rating because of all of his skills, but when I'm. I'm looking for a receiver. If we're picking from the top five receivers, obviously, I take Mike, Tomlin says received my team, but if I get to pick who I want I want. Somebody was more big playability, and if you look at Mike, Thomas Stats. They are mind blowing, but his average jars upset were for reception is pretty low, considering the type of receiver that he is and that's in part. Part because of the offense. Maybe that's in part. Because drew brees arm isn't what it used to be. And Michael Thomas has to run these routes in the in this style of offense, but I want somebody. That's GonNa blow the top off the defense, and that's not who Mike Thomas is now. If I can't have tyreek Hill or Julio Jones obviously I'm taking my Thomas and he's as good. Good, as it gets in this league, but as a former de the speed, and the big playability scares me more than anything else Mike Thomas Mushoo. Push you down and embarrassed you that way, but he's not running back running past. The Best DB's in this league. Yeah, not a big play guy. You say okay I'll just put out. Don't want him to come after you but I just want to. Feel like you're Bayton. Try to help. Make sure. You're saying. I'm preemptively apologized. Mike, Connors. 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Can Still Mall shoot still a pristine a pristine route runner so I'm taking all of those qualities Julio Jones Michael Thomas and Michael. Thomas Catch everything that this. In his in his in his APP, but I want the receiver. That's GonNa scare defense and I. Don't know necessarily Michael Thomas do that we can week out. You know as far as his physical attributes concern Michael Thomas is getting no love. In fact, our producers are scrambling like we had all this Michael Thomas, but it's now. We're putting up Julio Jones Burger get in here. How does he? Stole from me. The positives of Michael Thomas so he can come out of this segment. Feeling good. Well, he's got somebody the heads in football and I think when you fit him offense and you look at how he can uncover weather's man coverage zone coverage. He's one of the best, but you know to for Dominique to call him tied in I think Dominique's mentions. Cell phones going to be blown up with all the Michael Thomas Fans, but I do know what Dominique me because. If you look at where Michael Thomas. Catching the football, it's between zero and fifteen to twenty yards. The overwhelming majority of his catches are right there, but the other receivers that Damien woody mentioned. When you talk about Julio Jones Oh by the way. I think he's the best the under Hopkins. He will be my number. Two. Michael, Thomas is number three. Those receivers can get down to. To feel more vertically, so it just depends on what you want how you fit in the offense for the new, Orleans Saints Off Mansell Michael Thomas is the perfect fit gives report drew. brees is ability uncovering a manner zone coverage fits perfectly in an offense. But when you look at what they did in Houston with the Shawn Watson and Deandre Hopkins what they did in Atlanta with Matt Ryan and Julio Jones. Those guys fit better because of the vertical speed that they bring to the game, but. Let's be honest just like with the running back, position the piracy position. You can't go wrong Julio. De'andre and Michael Thomas those three have separated themselves at the top, and they oughta cream of the crop, so don't be mad Michael Thomas if Dominique calls you tidying. He's just having a bad morning. He didn't get his coffee in. It's okay. I'll give you the last word. Just quick at me. I saw you looking at me. I saw you looking at me sideways. I say why did not have a word about that. All right. Sake, one is not a bugsy. Damien Woody Look at least Michael Thomas knows he's in the top three. At least he should be happy with that right I guess maybe not. Maybe he'll come after all you guys all right guys coming up. We are headed to a divorce in Dallas. Are we actually what has to happen for data to end up somewhere else after twenty twenty? Plus? Here's a little sneaky Hammo for you. Which of these teams has won the fewest playoff games over the last twenty seasons? Is it a the raiders be? The cowboys perceive the chargers. We'll have the answer when we come back on. Get up. Is Much as I'm little or. Nothing in my life compared to use, it's not even close. You think about somebody really told promos that we even do at ESPN like if all hinges on the balance of yes really cool cuts and highlights also. What Song Are they using? Six three nerdy from Stamford talk on TV, you know analysts and all that stuff stuff when I hit the court crime up gets me right. A lot of Latin music and then obviously. A lot of hip hop. You what every time I hear it I'm like. I feel like if anyone knew that that song like got me fired up they would be like who are. Hi Pits ESPN's new Britain music I should say their new music brand is officially here. GO TO ESPN. Dot Com slash hype hits for more information including how to start listening. All right back to a little sneaky Hembo time, shall we? Which of these teams has won the fewest playoff games over the last twenty seasons? Is it. A The raiders beat the cowboys. See The chargers. Let's bring Damien Woody to answer this question Damien who you got. I'm going to go. Eight the writer and you would be. Wrong. It's the cowboys. They won only three. How could you not get the cowboys to me? That's like the easiest answer to give. You still there by the way, can I mention Egos at one fourteen over that time, so let's put that out there anyway. Speaking of the cowboys with Wednesday's deadline to produce a long term deal, come gone, Dak Prescott play the two thousand twenty season under a franchise tag, but don't feel bad for DAG GONNA earn thirty one point four million dollars to play under center for Jerry, Jones and the cowboys, but Guys I think for the long term prospects and let's bring back in Damien. Woody booger McFarland Dominic Foxworth for the long-term. Dominique this is not a good situation for either side just in terms of a term deal. How bad would it have to get in Dallas for? Let's say Dallas to decide. Hey, we gotta move on from deck after the season. Yeah, I mean. I don't think that there's any chance that they move on from after this season. I think because of franchising him. There's a possibility that the cat constraints make it so that they can't keep them, but I think the NFL and the Players Association. We smart enough to negotiate some way to smooth to cap and move money so that teams don't lose players like. Like this, however after two years, I can't see that going back to Dallas because he's only getting more and more leverage. He's on only expect more and more money, and if the cowboys weren't willing to give him what he wanted now they're not going to be interested in giving him more for a shorter contract, which is what he'll anticipate so i. think that he's got two seasons of Jerry Jones wants a super bowl and forseeable future. They better do it this year or next Damian I have to wonder. I gotTa put this question to you and booker, but I wanted to get your answer i. What do you think the chances are? Do Think Dak Cowboy after the twenty twenty season. I, think it will I think they'll franchise. You know again next year, but after that I think he's done I think it'll be the kirk cousins mode, and let's let me get. Let me get a little elbow room. Air, this whole thing would with Dak Prescott, because this whole thing is just crazy to me. You have the Dallas Cowboys. Drafted that Prescott in the fourth. And all he had done it. Step into the shoes a Tony Romo when Tony Romo hurt and lead the Dallas, cowboys second most wins only. Tom Brady since he's been starting quarterback of the Dallas cowboys now. You'll think that a guy who's drafted. Poke around. You drafted him. You develop them. Those should be a tremendous stored where the Dallas cowboys. But how in the world could you have dropped the ball on Sinus guy to a long term extension I mean. You could have done that a couple of seasons ago. Extend this guy knowing that okay. This guy has shown so much promise. He has done everything you ask for whether it'd been on the field off the field. He's represented doubt. Dallas was organization to the hot to the highest level. And here we are right now in July twenty, twenty, talking about the future of that. I got with the Dallas cowboys I still can't believe the Dallas cowboys bungled this whole situation with that car, and you know the flipside of this Dan Graziano. I WanNa talk to you about this Dan Graziano! Graziano mentioned yesterday. Look the flip side is it seems like according to the report stack side wanted five years. Dallas wanted more. There were other factors in here and both needed to come to an agreement but booker. I look at a situation like this and I. Say you know who's happy right now? The Philadelphia Eagles the New, York giants Washington Redskins, everybody in the NFC two now looking at Dallas and saying hey, they might be without deck. Who knows who they're starting? quarterback might be next year or the year after they've got that turmoil. We're looking good and I wonder how this all ends up playing out in Dallas for a team that seemingly locking up DAK Prescott should been no brainer. Year running. It should have been a no brainer, but let's understand who we're dealing with. Here is Jerry Jones Stephen Joan. He's a big boy businessmen and to me. This comes down to business, and how much cash oven investment you're willing to make. That press wanted four years. Why because after previews of that deal? That gives you an opportunity to come back to the table and get another bite at the Apple Jerry Jones is saying okay I won't five years, because that's going to push any type of renegotiating out for at least four years, and now I can spread this huge signing bonus. You want across the five years Jerry Jones. Being a businessman loves to make. Make. Investments sounded vestments for whatever reason inside the cowboy organization. They don't feel like giving back a four year deal. They sound business investment. However, if you look at the deal that was on the table. You can't say that they don't want that. Prescott because James. Slater of NFL network reported. It's a five year deal that was on the table between thirty, three and thirty, five with one, hundred and ten million guaranteed. That doesn't say to me. We don't want one that says to me. Hey, we want you, but we won't you at own price and guys, Dominique, and what have you both noticed? It takes two to negotiate, so we're talking about the Dallas cowboys. It's all on them. There was a deal on the table. The two sides together could not come to an agreement, so I think there's somebody owners has to be put on the cowboys and somebody owners has to be put on Doug Because Zach in his camp has made a decision. On a four year deal and inept four-year deal. We want to be able to come back to the table after three years. So in other words we want another bite at the apple before we turn thirty, so the onus has to go on both sides get, you cannot put it all on the cowboy comes. Seconds left. Go ahead. You can put the onus on both sides. However, at the end of the day there's only going to. To be one loser in this process, and that's The Dallas. Cowboys because they're alternative is much worse than Dak. Prescott Alternative, Dak Prescott. Alternative is hit free agency the thing we all dream of as professional athletes, the cowboys alternative is to go in the crap shoot of trying to find a quarterback in the draft again. So I understand, you can blame whoever you want, but there's only one loser in this process, and it ain't Dak Prescott. All right guys we'll cut. We'll keep talking about this because a lot more unpacked with deck, so stick around, but I wanna get to this before. We have a chance to move forward tiger woods. He's back in action. Making his return to golf at the memorial on Thursday there he is check them out at the third hole, par four second shot. Hundred and seven yards to the pin hits. A great wedge spins back and Rolls. That to a foot. Nice shot tiger birdie moves to to under through three holes, not a bad start, but then eight whole three hundred sixty three yards out. Tiger does not like that shot, and if you look at that curve right there like either. Misses the green he would bogey, then eventually moved back to even so looking a little on even at that point, but then fifteen whole par-five third shot tiger, hundred nine yards to the pin, hits a pitching wedge, and once again within a foot of a hope perfect. It would tap in for Birdie back to one under. Now Eighteenth Hole he sinks this fourteen footer boom, just like that tiger one under seventy one not a bad day, still in the hunt, and there's a scoreboard for you right there, tiger, not so far the league, but some the big names are still in it. You've got tiger woods eighteen career. Start at the event never missed a cut. And still in it at eighteen pricing Shambo at forty, two, not a bad tournament. And Tiger could make a move up the charts today now coming up Zion sudden departure from the bubble Kenny, make it back before the season resumes. We're GONNA live report from inside that bubble coming up. Tomorrow night on ESPN ARE UFC fight. Night features the flyweight title. Bout between Davidson. And Joseph Benedetti's. Main event. Coverage Starts Tomorrow Five PM Eastern with the main card. Starting at eight eastern on ESPN ESPN two tests and the ESPN APP, and we are about fifteen minutes of nine o'clock here on the East Coast. You're watching. Get up! We are live from Bristol Connecticut. I'm Ryan Smith in for my Greenberg, and we're with you. Til Ten fifteen a m right after that I take will begin, but a big story that crossed our desks last night and And it is a quite a scandal in DC, fifteen former employees of the Washington football team and two female reporters have accused members of Daniel Snyder's inner circle of sexual verbal harassment. Now no comment yet from Snyder the team hired a DC attorney to review the allegations and I want to welcome in Adam. Schefter here he's been all over the story. He has been breaking parts of this story. Out of what are you hearing right now about the allegations? We'll run I think this morning. The redskins going to be put into a position where the team owner Daniel Snyder is going to have to respond to these allegations and Dan. Snyder is somebody who likes to stay in the background and not get involved in these sorts of things up close, but this is a very serious situation that demands his attention and deserves comment from him on the. The particulars of this particular case now this is at a time here. where he is embroiled in a dispute with the minority shareholders of the Washington Redskins, he owned sixty percent of the team. They own forty percent of the team. They have hired a private investment firm to try to vet, potential buyers and see what their stakes in the team would be worth, and so there are A. A lot of different dynamics at hand it's interesting that this team also is going forward with a name change at this time, and so you got a name change. You've got owners who are in a dispute. You've got all these stories leaking out from various parts of the organization at a time where the owner in dispute. It doesn't take very much to figure out where all this is. Is Coming From and now we've got a situation with a Washington. Redskins have commanded the attention, the NFL through the month of July during a pandemic, and it doesn't look like it's going to be going away anytime soon and Adam you mentioned. They command the attention now of the NFL. How does the NFL in your mind? Look at this situation and what needs to happen going forward? Listen The Washington. NFL team was in touch with the NFL before it hired. Beth Wilkinson and attorney in Washington in a law firm to investigate these charges and to examine the culture that has existed within that organization in previous years, and so it'll be up to Beth Wilkinson to investigate this. Report back to Dan Snyder to report back to the NFL, and once the NFL sees what Beth Wilkinson uncovers and comes up with the league will decide whether or not to take action at that point in time. Ryan all right Adam Schefter. Thank you so much, and we'll bring in now. Senior NFL writer for the undefeated. Jason Reid, he's covered the Washington football team for quite some time. Jason, I know you covered him with the Washington Post and I want to get a sense from you of what you think about this story, and how comports with what you've seen and been around with this organization over time. Ryan unfortunately nothing that broke yesterday. Surprise me at all cover, the team for many years as a beat writer and columnist, and and and let me just be very blunt about this several years ago, I had begun while I was reporting beat in the paper to look into an allegation I contacted. Someone I tipped off the something. I'd contacted someone alternately. The person did not want to move forward so nothing about this surprises me the culture there is not good, and we were at a point right now where basing what Adam said I completely agree that that there are steps that have to be taken in the NFL will decide what to do, but. This very troubling situation because the allegations are not surprising and Jason, what also surprises me about this story is even though there is one denial of allegations from one of the people who accused of this kind of behavior in the article, there is no sort of at this point blanket denial of hate. This didn't happen. It's not like that it's almost as if hey. We want to move forward as part of Ron Rivera statement. What do you make of that? And also the fact that we're not hearing from Dan Snyder at this point. Well Let me. Let me be very careful about how I say this and I'm going to say this right way. I'm not saying Dan Snyder. Countenance these things happening, but they happened on his watch. The buck stops at the top. He's in charge and the fact that he did not speak yesterday. I think was a was a very beyond disappointing act when when you organization is being accused. Accused by this many women of this type of conduct, it is incumbent in my opinion on the person at the top of the leadership chart to come out and talk about what we need to do where we've been in where we're going. And that did not occur I I mean we can. We can try to point the different words to explain this, but but it's beyond disappointing. Jason about the paradox these when we talked about this just a while ago, that these things happen to them this harassment, they describe, but having no one to go to or not knowing who to go to or feeling like. If they go to someone, they could lose their job. Their career could be over. Again my friend, we talk about the culture that's created. We talk about the workplace environment that was a culture in a workplace environment, and I'm not just basing basically what I'm saying. You're on the story. I'm basically on my own reporting and things. That I looked into. When I was there, it was just completely broken, and you have women who felt that they had no recourse in two thousand in the two thousands it that is ridiculous and especially in this climate that we've been last couple years. It really shows something that's fundamentally broken and needs to be overhauled from top to bottom. Okay Jason Thank you and stick around. We want to talk to you again in just a little bit more about this story. We are going to continue to talk about that, and then let's take a look at this. The NFL releasing a moment this morning. They've said quote. These matters reported as reported are serious, disturbing and contrary to the NFL's values. Everybody in the NFL has a right to work in. In an environment free from any and all forms of harassment. Washington has engaged outside counsel to conduct a thorough investigation into these allegations. The club is pledged that it will give its full cooperation to the investigator, and we expect the club and all employees to do so we need with the attorneys upon the conclusion of their investigation, and take any and all it take any action based on the findings. All right one to turn to this story from inside the bubble, and it's a big one the Pelicans announcing yesterday the Williamson left the NBA bubble yesterday morning. Because of under undisclosed urgent family medical matter now Williamson intends to return at some point here's this coach Alvin Gentry. Don't know anything right now from the standpoint of. Coming back and you know obviously us. We've discussed supportive. Amina's family and their privacy doing this time right now, you know. We played forty four games without him and. You know we have top stretching, and we also had a stretch for. We won twelve out of sixteen. Without Him, so obviously, he's a great player that we'll miss, but the one thing that we've always talked about even when we went through times is that. Next Man. Marc Spears joins US live from inside the bubble at Disneyworld mark. Seems a little unclear as to why he left. What are you hearing about that about why he left at this point? Look the PELICANS are keeping it really really close to the vest, and they've been like that all all season. Way Him, you know this is still a teenager very very protective of their future star, and it's a family matter so I certainly understand that, but when it comes to him coming back, Ryan is really complicated. Absence of seven days or less, he s a quarantine. Four days upon return to the bubble with negative tests needed each day. Longer than a week. He has quarantine for four days. If he has a negative test the final day seven days he has gone. Without a required COA testing he will quarantine for ten days, so the Pelicans will debut. On July thirtieth they're one of four teams that play in the first day to resumption. It's not a lot of time between now, and then they have their first criminals, and just a few days, so yeah. The PELICANS certainly have a lot to worry about in their hopes of trying to get back to the playoffs, Yeah and we certainly wish Zion Williamson, and is it well with this family matter I mean that's first and foremost here hoping they're okay, but I look at this as well and I say without him. What are their chances of moving far into the playoffs structure? Like Alvin said you know. They played forty four games without him. Brandon Ingram the all star. He played most of those games at power forward. Without Zion, but once I came back. He only missed one game, and they have a stretch for by the name of Niccolo Meli. Not Not too hot says Zion has not the game design has I think the average is like seven games seven points a game. He would likely replace Zayn at power forward with Ingram staying in the small force spot, and I. Think drew holiday, said it best. He said you know. As much as it hurts to say, we've done it before in terms of playing without Zayn. Yeah, you got to be able to play in the big moments and the team is going to pick up the slack. That's what they're saying right now. Mark. Thank you so much appreciate. WELL COMING UP ON, get up! Find out why cuyler Murray feels disrespected and get this. Why one of our analysts says he might reach MVP status next year. I am not joking. Come back for, more get up.

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Scandal In Washington

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Scandal In Washington

"Hello Everyone! Welcome onto, I take. I'm Charlie joining me on this Friday? We have Damien Woody Dominic Foxworth also Adam. Schefter kickoff the show. Is You get to the very important news that late yesterday about the Washington Redskins? So Gentlemen? Let's get right into it it. It's very devastating news for the organization as fifteen former female employees of the Washington Redskins have accused members of the teams for an office of sexual and verbal harassment. Report published last night by the Washington Post, the accusations span from two, thousand, six, two, thousand, nine, thousand, nine, hundred include longtime radio Voice Larry Michael Director of Pro Personnel Alex Santos and his assistant. Richard Santos and man were fired this past week while Michael abruptly retired in that same timeframe, owner Daniel Snyder eighteen president bruce. Alan have not been accused of harassment. Some of the women claim it was unlikely that Snyder and Alan had no idea what was going. Going on in terms of all this behavior head coach Ron Rivera released the statement after the story broke. The biggest thing is that we have to move forward from this and make sure everybody understands. We have policies that we will follow and that we have an open door policy with no retribution, plus my daughter works for the team, and I sure as hell am going to allow any of this one of the accusers. Emily applegate spoke about the organization's culture. We're still waiting for that sound. All right we're GONNA get that sound to you later, but we also going. Okay. The NFL responding today with this statement. These matters as reported are serious disturbing contrary to the NFL's values, everyone in the NFL has the right to work in an environment free from any in all forms of harassment. Washington has engaged outside counsel to conduct a thorough investigation into these allegations club has pledged that it will give its full cooperation to the investigator and we expect the club. Club and all employees to do so we will meet with the attorneys upon the conclusion of their investigation and take any action based on the findings. Hard Adam Schefter I want to start with you here. Ron Rivera has already commented on the allegations on this investigation, but crazy thing is, we have yet to hear from owner Dan Snyder. So what can or should we expect from Dan Snyder? Has To respond to these charges and allegations that the Washington Post issued. Yesterday is no choice to address this. This has been in his organization allegedly. This is something that is embarrassing. This is something that's unacceptable. This is something that he has to address. He can't sit silent on this issue. There are so many issues that Dan Snyder's had so many people like Bruce Allen or Ron Rivera speak up for him in the past, but this is his organization and his. His, organization did things that unacceptable in today's world, and so the man at the top has no choice in my mind, but to address these allegations today and talk about how sickened and disgusted, so many people are by them, and let's see what he does have to say. I expect that he will say something I expect. He will issue a statement today and again we'll see what he decides to say when he does that Charleston well. That absolutely should happen. Another. Question I want to ask you is what do you make the League statement on letting the law firm. The team higher do is investigation before the League steps in. Listen the NFL knew that. The Washington NFL team was hiring Beth Wilkinson a respected attorney in the Washington DC area to take a deep dive into the organization's culture, and to determine all the things that have gone wrong there. It is up to her to launch that investigation. Make sure it's thorough to report her findings back to the NFL and the NFL, that point in time can decide to take action, but the truth of the matter is do we need the NFL to go issue, a million dollar, fine or whatever it may be. Do we need the NFL to take away some mid round draft? Pick to really have changed. That should be something that is just. Expected in common decent. The NFL needs to rule, and I understand it. I got it, but the fact of the matter is, it should not take a governing body in New York to make the Washington NFL franchise fall into line with the acceptable norms of today's society again. It's up to Washington to get this straight. They have a head coach. That is determined to do that. He's trying to change that culture. We'll see if he can do that. He's trying to overcome a long time where this. Organization has done things like this or embarrassed itself in one form or another and we'll see what Beth Wilkinson. The Attorney Investigates what she comes up with, and what changes that Dan Snyder decides to enact for this organization. Well continuing on that same thought. Adam, you know given the laundry list of problems. The redskins have encountered this recent investigation the all the allegations. What punishment should the redskins be looking at as well as Dan Snyder? Again to me, it's secondary I know. The NFL could wind up taking action and disappointing the redskins and a severe way. That's fine again. That's empty to me. That's Holler me. What is the Washington organization going to do to police? itself is capable of policing itself for does need a babysitter in New York to step in and say we're finding you and we're taking away draft pick and we're suspending the own or whatever we're doing to try to. To right this wrong. That has been perpetuated within this Organization for a long period. It shouldn't come to that in this day and age. Don't we all know better? Don't we expect better? Don't we deserve better? It's ridiculous to think that the NFL stepping. It's the NFL's job. It will do it feels is necessary based off the investigation that Beth Wilkinson launches, and what she uncovers the fact that matters from basic human decency standpoint. Let's get this right. They need to get it right I think you're absolutely right Adam. Thank you so much for your insight. We'll be waiting for more development. Investigation unfolds. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you. All right dominate. Why don't we start with you here? What's your reaction to what has unfolded in these past twenty four hours I think everything that Adams said was right, and they do need to get it right, but we have no reason to believe that they will get it right. They have a kind of a long history in that franchise. Some of it is rumor and some of it. It or things that actually have been reported and seemed to be fact, then you can go all the way back to the story I written in two thousand eighteen about the twenty thirteen trip that the cheerleaders took to Costa Rica where they had the cheerleaders taking part in topless photo shoots, and they allowed people who pay for suites to walk around and view the cheerleaders during that process. Reported that they stood up to create barricades so that the the suite holders couldn't see their teammates out there without their clothes on, and then at the end of that process they also allowed the suite holders to select from the group of cheerleaders, the ones that they wanted to escort them to a party and they did all this after taking the passport away from their cheerleaders that was in two, thousand thirteen. It was reported in two thousand eighteen, and then you can just go back to year. Where there was forty employees, they left because they. They cited issues with the culture that they had there. We can go back to the mismanagement of Trent Williams. which I know doesn't fit into this theme, but it is also a series. Evidence of mismanagement, and then we have this. Come Out, we come out. We have this come out yesterday, which is also. Incredibly embarrassing and disappointing, so I agree with Adam that punishment, taking draft picks, or finding them to me feels empty and irrelevant but I. The question I have for for for for anybody else. Frankly is their conversation about Dan Snyder's future in who is actually going to fix this because Dan Snyder has demonstrated that he is incapable of fixing this problem. He may be part of the problem and Rana. Rana bears a football coach. Stop it if you think that Ron. Rivera is GONNA. Fix this. He's a football coach and we shouldn't ask him to fix this. It's not a responsibility. He has no ability to do so. We have no reason to believe that he's capable of doing so so I hope Dan Snyder speaks at some point I'm interested to hear what they would have to say about it. Well. Listen I think you know first of all from a macro level. This is something that women in generally in sports at to deal with a quite some time, and we're not just talking about the national football. League but sports in general so. I applaud all the women that came forward in the Washington Post article to really tell their story about what's been going on with. The Washington franchise acquired some time. We've heard the stories and dominic you. You referenced him talking about the cheerleader, a cheerleader incident you know I in Costa Rica I believe the aboard behavior down there, and then obviously the story that just drop yesterday from the Washington Post in a toxic environment with the Washington redskins. And you know when you think about it anytime, we anytime you talk about a toxic environment, a workplace culture that is just this horrible. Is usually because of toxic management, and and that's really been a theme offer Washington Franchise for quite some time for years now have they been putting product on the field, but behind behind the scenes behind the walls of the franchise has just been terrible behavior. That's been going on at all levels whether it's management scouting coaching. In all levels, and in the one thing that you would like to see is you would like to see the face of the franchise, the number one person one hundred, and that would be the owner Dan Snyder step forward like Mark Cuban Day with the Dallas cowboys when they had incident is. Alleged incidents is brought forward. what the what the Dallas Mavericks. Mark Cuban came straight out and said you know what this the buck stops and starts with meet He put forward a plan to try to remedy the situation. We have yet to see anything like that. From Dan Snyder as far as this topic and many other topics come up on, come up with the Washington Washington franchise so. Like Adam Schefter said the NFL could could obviously step in finding the franchise, a bunch of money and take away draft picks to spend. You know dance, not a blood. Really if you have to if you have to wait on on our own outside. Source celebrities type of changes. Duchess speaks volumes for the type of organization that you run as a whole. We do now have sound from emily applegate one of the accusers. Let's get to that right now. I had a week. Maybe are so. That was great and I was like. Yes, this is exactly what I wanted. What was explained to me and this is going to be great and then you got your. I like. Screaming at you for something that you. It's not your fall, and then somebody makes a comment to you about what you're wearing, and they're just no-balls there and it really took. Most people know to comment on my appearance. Obviously, highly inappropriate behavior, going on within the redskins organization according to Emily applegate. I think you know as a woman I, think that most of us in sports would be hard pressed to say that we've never encountered something like this, but happy. It's coming to light, and hopefully something can be done, and I think right now. We're all waiting on. Dan Snyder the owner of the Washington Redskins to come out and make some sort of statement. If nothing else so gentlemen. We're going to talk more about the controversy in Washington coming up later on and I take. Hello, this is your apartment. I need some favors from you. Your keeps rubbing against the kitchen island and I can't return the favor. Can you give extra pets for me after that? Could you bundle your renters and car insurance with GEICO? We could save money and it's easy to do online and one last thing. Could you leave the TV on during the day I? 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You worked at the Washington Post for three years, so I want to get your reaction to this entire controversy. That's happening in Washington now. Trolley! Not at all surprising to me, which is. Really very sad I mean during my time as a reporter on the team. I had been tipped off allegations about. Some of these some of these same things that the the Post reported on, and you know you do your reporting. You go to people you try to find out what's going on if people don't WanNa talk and if you can't obtain the information, move forward you, don't you? Go you go with reporting takes you where the reporting took. The Post reporters on this piece was very troubling places, and it's really just on acceptable that this is allowed. These situations have been allowed to continue as long as they have continued, and it very disappointing that the people in leadership did not do the things they needed to do to stop these things. And we touched on this in our last segment. Jason what's your reaction to the fact that Dan Snyder has yet to say a word about all this. Trolley that is simply unacceptable with when you're in a situation when you organization has been accused of sexual harassment by so many women in in this day and age that we're in for the person who's at the top of the leadership chart, not to have spoken yet. It's almost incomprehensible that this would be something that someone who is a good owner. A good leader would would allow to have happen now I get it. The team is has hired outside firm to look at their culture, but. With a story like this with this many accusations with this type of subject matter for the owner to have not addressed it coming up on twenty four hours later. No, that's just not good enough. Yeah I think that it's. Obviously hiring outside firm is important step to take, and I don't know specific any specifics about the law firm they hired. I'm sure they have integrity, but I think the fact remains that the Washington team will be the ones who are paying them so I wonder if there's any if you're hearing anything about the NFL hopefully change their position in hiring another firm independent, truly independent firm to do this investigation because I'm not sure how easy it is to come to honest conclusions when your paycheck is coming from the same place. Task Investigate. Dom Great Point I. Mean in this situation. What's most needed is complete transparency. What's most needed as a situation where no one can doubt what's going on? And this is not the cast aspersions on the law firm hired you. I don't know that that what the background is in terms of hey, what any connections there might be with anyone in the organization, but the reality of it is the NFL has to do its own independent investigation now the league without a statement saying that it would wait. So after that investigation was to decide what I wanted to do, in terms of potentially moving forward, but to me in the climate, we're in in the era that we're in with all this transformative change going on around the country posts me too movement I do not see how the NFL can let one. The investigation stand that the team is paying for. A Jason I know in Washington Post article I talked about you know the protocols, or you know how. These these different instances were being reported, and he talked about a lack of an HR arment with the Washington redskins. Only one person was considered hr for the entire building I. Mean You talk about that? You earn any specifics about how these. These alleged incidents incidents being reported within the building. Well. Listen when when when you cover the when you cover this organization, you understand that things happened there that don't necessarily happen throughout the NFL and this is something that we we had heard about for years about essentially as mom and pop mentality, not hiring to have departments fully staff, not paying people you know at at wages. We say okay that you're going to retain top talent, so it's not at all surprising when I read that in the store. Okay, well, yeah. Yeah, because that's the way they do things there. You can't really talk about having good corporate culture when you have that. Many employees pointed to one HR person, and that person is simply overwhelmed, and on top of it, my man, you have a situation where the people who have problems don't feel the climate exists in which they can truly voice. What's going on? I mean the only thing you're doing is continuing the cycle of a cycle that needs to be broken. We saw we saw Fedex and some of the partners apply enough pressure and internal people apply enough pressure that they were forced to change their name. I'm wondering if you're hearing any of that. Similar pressure started to mount for Daniel Snyder. Future given the fact that this is not just one isolated incident. Obviously Daniel Snyder was not. Implicated in any of these accusations specifically, but he led this organization as we talked about in the first segment. He also was the head of this organization when they had that. Sexual harassment issue with the cheerleaders and the Costa Rica trip and he was the head is. When forty of his employees decided to to leave a year ago because they cited culture issues, so I would imagine that some of the sponsors and internal people might be having these conversations that something that you've heard. Well. I've I've heard that. A lot of conversations are still ongoing obviously around this type of story. But you, you pointed this. In the piece, it made it clear that these allegations not clutch Daniel Snyder and we saw this situation happen. The Karaoke with the Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson when the League launches investigation but Jerry, Richardson was actually named in wrong right wing. That's a key difference here now. Having said that dumb. The reality of it is Washington. Washington NFL franchise fans would absolutely love to have new ownership, but we'll new owner should be put in place. I highly doubt that at this point. All right well, that's still a question that we're waiting on an answer about but other than ownership of the team Jason. What changes do you see happening with the organization short-term and long-term as a result of this controversy? which only Ron Rivera who's the head coach and the center of power in the organization? Now there's no team president, the general manager, either as a general manager, but in Rivera is the one who has player personnel control. He's made it clear. This will not be allowed to continue that they're going to change the culture and I believe him I mean. You couldn't continue with this if you. You wanted to continue with this. You're out of your mind, so there will be changes made, and I would not be surprised. Charlie of after this investigation by the outside firm is completed that you saw hiring was beefed up in certain areas you that you would see that there would be a more clear guidelines. Put Out to everyone organization about conduct and things. We're going to happen. To people have been fired and one person retired abruptly so clearly. This is not something sustainable so i. do expect changes in Staffing I. DO expect changes in messaging. But at the end of the day, the person in charge of the organization at the top is still in charge, and I think that there have to be real questions moving forward about how this organization is being run at the top. Of very clear, lots of changes need to be made immediately so Jason. Thank you so much for your time? We appreciate you for businesses around the world. Today isn't a restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change How they from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work. VISIT IBM DOT com slash smart to learn more. The NFL expecting to open it season in less than two months with the chiefs Texans rookies to report to training camp this weekend in there or still a lot more questions than answers of how the season is going to operate with increasing corona virus concerns Jj Watt, speaking up a half, a hundreds of his fellow players after being a part of NFL player association calls over the two weeks, says bottom line. We WanNA play, but they do need some details. You can see on his tweet. He mentioned a lot of different things that they have issues. They have not reached a clarity upon with the NFL. So guys begs the question. Would you play in the NFL the season and Damian. I want to start with you here. For me! It's easy I would not because my wife is she, has autumn auto immune disease, and so she's immune compromised so I wouldn't put I wouldn't put my wife and my family, and that type of situation, but listen that Jj Watt tweet brings up a lot of questions on the. Bars the national football. League is concerned. We you know like. He laid out layers on north. They're going to be tested daily. What if what if what if a got US positive in a row? Ghazni's meeting room got this positive. What's the protocol who you know? WHO's getting quarantine What are the? What are the game? They Ross is GonNa look. There's a lot of questions, but if the pay, what is the pay going to look like? If God's positive and Mrs extended period of time you know with Cova, so there are a lot of questions. That seems to be out there. And and the fact of the matter that the Houston Texans are GONNA be reporting. I think reports at our facility? The rookies on Monday it seems like everything is going in hyper drive, and we don't know a lot of questions that are being presented out there so for me. The answer is simple. I would not. I think it's not. It's not as easy answer for me I. Think the answer is probably yes. I would play, and I think at thirty seven years old, which I am now and a father and husband I think it's easy for say no, absolutely not I wouldn't take that risk for myself or my family, or any of the people that are, and it's that important to me, but I'm thinking I'm trying to think back to when I was in my twenties, and I was a football player in being there for my teammates was the most important thing, and also the money was really important, whereas if it was early in my career. I wasn't making nearly as much money but i. knew that I couldn't afford to skip a season. I might I might be out of the League and his late in my career. Where you're making bigger than you're like. This is the money that I'm GonNa live off of for the rest of my life for the money that is going to be able to send my kids to good schools in the money. That's going to be able to help me buy a house for my parents like all that stuff out I. think that I would talk myself. Myself into going in plain exposing myself to that risk, I mean we are playing football. It is it is a high risk endeavor so I WANNA say that I'll be mature enough to recognize that the smart thing to do would be not play in Damian like you. My Wife to has She has Crohn's disease. It's a immuno compromising disease so I would be very careful when I thought a lot about it and I think I would. I would just living hotel for a year and work out of a hotel. We wouldn't see each other, but. I know it sounds trite and trivial to make it all about the money, but those contracts. It's getting pretty big and I'm not just going to I, would have to sacrifice. I'm not just going to pass that up. Because that that means a lot to buy all the things that I pointed out like I wouldn't have been able to buy Mama House. My Mom and dad are house, and that stuff is substantial to me and I I recognize that I wouldn't if I if it were? Were my son I. Would I know absolutely not, but you just have different thresholds for the risk that you're willing to take as as a caregiver in as a breadwinner for not only your immediate family, but your extended family, so I don't know I, recognize that what you're saying is probably the right answer, but if I'm trying to be honest I, think I would try to do everything I could figure out a way to get out there. Be There my team and get them checks frankly. Why think. God. Know I would just say. Listen I agree I. Think Nine hundred thirty guys out. There have similar mindset I remember. You know listen. Don We both play in the League for a long time. And you know especially in the twentieth man you feel like you're glad. Eight to nothing affects you, and all those type of things you play through all types of injuries, and you guys have been sake and all those type of things you find a way. Way To get through it. I just think that this is this. This is a totally different animal and I'm speaking on. Just mop particularly you know situation I. Don't know how many other guys are going to be dealing with the same question, the same situation that I just posed, but again from a national football league perspective and the Players Association. There's a lot of questions about this that quite frankly I'm a player looking at this whole situation. I would be very skeptical and I'll be. I'll be very worried about what I am stepping into this season. Is My money going to be guaranteed if I if I catch Kobe, are they going to you know? Are they going to limit that we? There's a lot of question marks out that we just don't have the answer to right now. And I think if you did have the answers. It would be an easier decision to make you know what to do whether. It's safe to play whether you should sit this one out, but I want to ask you how concerning. Is it that there is such an extreme lack of communication right now between the NFL and the player's? This incredibly concerning I think and I think we I think it's easier save. We had more answers that we would make better decisions, but we didn't have all answers and still don't have all the answers on head injuries, and what that means in all of us went out there and continued to play because of for whatever reason so I think it is. Is incredibly concerning that there's not enough information out there that some of your the NFL. Star players are asking questions that we feel like should be pretty straightforward and honestly about the virus. We all talk about how could affect other people. We don't know how it affects the people who contracted disease just because you contract the virus, and maybe it develops into. into the worst disease and it it impact shoe short term, and then you beat it. We're not sure what the long term implications are like. We just learned recently. That is more of a blood disease than a respiratory disease, so it can affect other organs so I think it's a hard thing to say I'm trying my best to be honest and be fair, but I think the best way to frame it is. If someone was asking me for advice I would tell them not to play, but if it were me myself, I know I would probably put myself in harm's way as stupid as that sounds because of the benefit that I would think that it provided to me into to my family. Listen I. I think at the end of the day. Not Again repeat. Ninety nine percent of the guys will be willing to play because. Careers, a SOC or SOC short right on a you'll have a short window to make the type of money that you're able to make in the national football league, so again got these guys in the twenties and early Thirties. They're thinking you know what if I had to sacrifice and put myself out there or a situation that quite frankly there's a lot of unknowns owns right now. Then I'm willing to do it knowing that. I'm I'm I'll be able to keep you know. Keep making these jets that will secure my family's future and I think that's the mindset of most of the guys in the National Football League. Even, if you had all the answers, though I feel like I would still be uncertain because the NFL is Kinda shown track record of not being completely forthright with health information, as it pertains to their players as long as it continues to to make that money so I'm not sure that you can trust necessarily in this process. You need to understand what you're exposing yourself to, so it's it's scary. Scary for of us, not just people who are in Professional Sports Leagues Right now should be scary for everyone who's in this country. Absolutely, well one of the major unresolved issues right now between the NFL, and the player's whether or not covid nineteen isn't even going to be classified how it's going to be classified rather whether it's going to be classified as a non football injury and that's. Something they have yet to reach common ground on, and that's according to sources as reported by Dan Graziano, guys. We're GONNA. Leave it right there, but we are going to talk about the NFL the next segment, but for businesses around the world. Today isn't a restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change How they from supply chains to customer service. Let's smart to work. VISIT IBM DOT com slash smart to learn more. Someone needs to teach me how to play video games because I swear, everybody loves madden, and then we continue our look at madden ratings with a maximum of two of the best receivers in the game. The Cowboys Amari Cooper is the sixth rink receiver with ninety three ranking. Meanwhile Cleveland's Odell Beckham Junior boasts the highest ranking in ball carrier vision with a one rating overall. Are Dominique. We're going to start with you here. Odell ranked ninth overall on Madden, but the question is still a top five receiver in the NFL. I absolutely think he's a top five receiver NFL. He had a bad year last year. Part of it was because of injuries and part of it, because it was probably one of the worst coach teams in football last year, and no one on Cleveland outside of Myles. Garrett I think had a good year and his year ended really poorly, so I think that we can excuse away one season as an aberration, considering that his other seasons rank him up there in company like Randy Moss. Moss Jerry Rice so I think that that was just an aberration because of an injury and other external issues that they were having at that team. I think he will return back to form, and he's a special receiver. The type of guy that you can throw it in his vicinity, and if you get them, it might be a touchdown anytime. He touches it. He's that fund. He's dead exceptional, so yeah, he's a top receiver in my in my mind. Absolutely, he's an elite Guy. Well listen, I think is. Is He tough office talent? There's no Bush as a top receivers talent concern, but we all know at the wide receiver position lot engines don't want supporting peace around you. What are you talking about coach? Order back so on and so forth. You look at the Cleveland Browns and one thing you see we've seen since this time been organization is, there's been a lot of change in a lot of ineptness whether it be you know from the coaching perspective now they company with with a new coaching chemist Abassi. We don't. We don't know how that's GONNA translate. We saw. We've seen with Baker Mayfield coming off. You know his worst season as a pro bowl twenty one interceptions very shaky. Production from the quarterback situation so listen. There's no disputing Odell. Beckham junior talent, and and hits explosive, but me if I'M GONNA put it I'm GonNa put a guy in my top five. was I needed to see the talent? I need to see the production. Go along with the talent. That's why Odell Beckham to me. Outside of my top five. Yeah, I mean the production wasn't there last year, but it's been there every other year I feel like there. There were injury concerns if it only takes one rough year with injuries and other issues to fall out of the top five. I feel like it's unfair. He's he's been consistently awesome and he had a. that doesn't mean you. Take them out of the top five in my view, maybe wasn't top five as far as numbers. What is what what is a blip talking about? Guy Beckham journey over the last over last three seasons. He hasn't even he hasn't gotten over eleven. Hundred dollars for save it. Okay. I know one year. But we're talking three years where he hasn't even got noble hundred yards and. Who would be in your top because I know I, know damn what you now. I'm not putting them ahead of of Julio. Jones Michael Thomas the Andrea Hopkins tyreek. Hill and for me and my money. Give me my. Okay Mike Edmonds. Has That's where we that's my. That's I'm with you? I'm with you until you got to Mike. Evans over Odell Beckham and I understand my ever. The listen. What? You. Spend the more productive receivable overpass you. Might Edit. We can put up the stats, and you're probably right, but if you turn on the tape, I know that the better receiver in my view is Odell Beckham. The routes are shot from, Odell, Beckham the big plays are impressive Odell Beckham Beckham, did it with ally manning who was a quarterback who was at best kind of average on the tail? End of career understand that Jameis. Jameis Winston turns the ball of a good amount but Jamie's Winston. Don't give you chances to make plays a man's best efforts where those those slant routes, and that's what Odell. Beckham turned into spectacular plays, throwing almost uncatchable balls that Odell Beckham had to catch with one hand. That's very different than playing with James. Whitsett, because as much as you can criticize Jameis Winston turning the ball. Ball over Davis Wisden also on the other side, throw some of the most impressive passes that you'll see, and he'll give his receivers a chance, and then Odell Beckham from manning to Baker Mayfield his second year, which is not been very impressive in a second, so I think that all things considered I think it's easy to just go by the stats. That's what I would expect from some. Some fans to do, but you and I. We gotta go deeper than just a statute we noticed. Don't tell the whole story. Look at the Games looking the players and tell me if you're drafting team right now, you you would honestly take Mike Evans over Odell Beckham ability receive receiver right now. You would do that that you and I disagree at that point. He's a top five. Will listen I know one thing. Over the past couple of years. I've. You know per reception average Oda Beckham J.. As, he hasn't been touched in his whole career. We're talking James and we're talking with James Winston like I said. We're older Beckham Junior. The talent is there. There's no question when you've had three straight years. Where you having eleven hundred dollars, it starts to become a trend so I believe in the talent, but unless you put it all together, and it goes back to my point that I made initially a lot of a lot of what hands on great why receivers? It's what's going on around them and what we have with the Cleveland browns. As a bigger no rookie rookie head coach accord back, trying to bounce back up a disastrous year, so we don't know what the type of production that Odell Beckham. Jr is going. Give quarterback so I'm more. I'm after having a guy, might. Oh by the way. It's going to have Tom Brady quarterback. To to me is a more as a better. Better production for the past two years and Odell Beckham Junior. You might be right if the question is production I think that I might lean in your direction, but the question is who is better. I think the other guy that we have right down there below us in the Mike Cooper, it is an example of being a good wide receiver in a bad situation on Oakland. Then he goes to a good situation. All of a sudden his numbers explode so it doesn't mean. Mean that he wasn't good before. It means the things around him. We're not perfect. I think the same thing can be said for for Odell. Beckham you saw win. Amari went to Dallas all of a sudden. Dallas got better in a got better I think we can have a similar situation with old Dell right now not I think I know we have a similar situation in Odell in Cleveland. Is that the surrounding him is what was holding him back because we saw. saw would he was when he had when he was in a different situation, and not that those things were great, and you keep saying Jameis Winston like that's a bad thing. James Watson isn't terrible. James Listen is erotic like James. Winston isn't like all the time bad all the time Mediocre Davis Whitson is great, and then he's really bad and sometimes when you're a receiver interceptions, don't go on your resume so when James. Winston is Great Mike Evans is allowed to be. Be Great James. Watson is bad. It doesn't really impact Mike. Evan statistics so I think that having James Winston. quarterback helps you as as your stats a concern. It may not help you win as many as you want. But if you're receiver, you like Winston. He GonNa. Throw it up for you. The other guy might get sometimes, but you might get sometimes. No one's going to look to say hey. They intercepted that they're gonNA. Look at you all. You got two touchdowns. We'll going back to Odell and Amari. which receiver would you say? Faces more pressure this season. I think that's easy. Think is I, think so. Del Yeah I. think that's an easy question. I think it's the pressure down there in Dallas is not on the. Though the way he ended his season last year. A lot of people were critical of him. for not being on the field in those big moments, but I think he's got the paycheck. He's gotten the the respect and he's there number one receiver. They brought in CD lamb. So maybe it may not be like that for long, but I think there's more pressure on him and Odell is to always going to be a focal point of all the attention, so he's GonNa ton of attention and coming off the season. He lighter statistically in the season that the team had last year it's a lot of pressure on him to help. Turn all that around. Yeah, I would agree. It's all you know all the pressure on Odell Beckham. Jr jets from from name recognition to what the Cleveland browns done. It's all season you know high new coach addressing areas of need within with office, so there's really no excuses as to why the Cleveland. Browns officially shouldn't be very explosive and one of the centerpieces. Today is older Beckham Jillian. I'm expecting a big year out of if he doesn't have it. Then you know it's going really. It's GonNa be a lot of heat on Odell Beckham JR moving forward. And both of them are in a situation where people might overlook the amount of pressure there on because there's also a lot of pressure on both quarterbacks as a ton of pressure, Baker, Mayfield, and debt, going into another year without a contract, going to be a lot of pressure on him down there and big D. Why don't know if you guys saw but Odell Beckham, Jr hosted a roundtable on his youtube channel recently, he has his blonde hair back. The players that he was joined by took note of that, and he said look this year. I'm getting my groove back I. Think the blonde hair is really helping to just embody you know that aggressive nature, so maybe something worth checking out.

July 14  Hour 1  Ford Employee Boycott | Economist Michael Busler on Stimulus

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July 14 Hour 1 Ford Employee Boycott | Economist Michael Busler on Stimulus

"Wake Up. It's time for mornings with Gail on thirteen ten KFI. Well Ford continuing to grab headlines As. Ford CEO Jack Package or Jim Hackett I should say rejected employees calls just recently to get out of the police car business. Employers were saying hey, we can't support black lives matters if we're making police cars. Okay now. That's a stretch six. Oh, eight, now thirteen ten KFI, thirteen ten K. F. A. dot com northern Colorado's voice mornings with Gail, live and local via the auto collision Specialists Studios, but Yeah Jim Hackett saying no. We're going to continue to make police cars. Incidentally Ford sells the majority of police cars across the country and CNN for whatever their motivation may have been very graciously, pointing out that the police car that George Floyd was lying next to when he killed. Was Ford. Would you tell me what that has to do with anything whatsoever? But I said they continued to grab headlines this as that twenty twenty one Ford Bronco Suv was revealed with Retro Styling and off Road Tech Yeah, the Ford Bronco is back again. They were actually taking reservations on their website. You can put down a deposit I. Believe it was like one hundred bucks or something, and it would link you to a dealer so that you could reserve your. Your twenty, twenty, one four Bronco while the response was so great, the website actually crashed for a while, but three years after Ford announced that it was on the way. The Reborn Bronco has well arrived. The mid size suv unveiled just night was developed as a direct competitor for the Jeep Wrangler with styling inspired by the original nineteen sixty six bronco body on frame construction standard four. Four wheel drive and a removable roof and doors smaller broncos sport crossover will join it in showrooms as part of a new Bronco sub brand of Ford is according to a piece of by Gary Gas Lou Fox News Twenty twenty one bronco will be built alongside the Ford Ranger pickup in Michigan and share. It's two hundred and seventy horsepower. Two point three liter turbocharged four cylinder Ford. Ford F one fifty s two point seven liter turbocharged V six is optional rated at three hundred ten horsepower and four hundred a pound of Torque both engines are offered with a ten speed automatic transition, but the four cylinder can also be matched to a seven speed manual with an ultra low crawler. This is for gear heads this morning. A crawler gear for extreme off roading now. Two. Door and four door models will be available with tons of accessories across six trim and equipment levels, starting at two, thousand, nine, nine, nine, hundred, five plus a limited production top of the line I can now unlike the wrangler. The Bronco has an independent front suspension that Ford maintains his better for high speed desert, running on road refinement than the wrangler solid axle, but can still boulder with the best of two four. Four by four systems with two speed transfer cases are offered across the lineup, the upgrade version, adding a full four by four setting several suspension configurations indeed are available including a Saas Watch package that delivers the most off road capability. Thanks in part to its thirty five inch tires on a stabiliser bar that can be disconnected when the Bronco is already at an angle and automatically reconnects speeds increase with this setup, the Bronco. Bronco has eleven point six inches of ground clearance can Ford thirty three point five inches of water that's amazing and has best in class approach, departure and break over angles offer attack includes a selection of Seven so-called goat, driving modes greatest of all time which calibrate the drive train for different surfaces and play off. The original broncos claim to be able to go over all to rain. There's also a low speed cruise control. Control for rock crawling. Four by four turn assists, that uses the inside rear brakes to help it make sharper turns on loose surfaces and rather unique one pedal, driving system that applies the brakes, says you ease up on the throttle so well. You don't have to use both feet to negotiate tricky terrain. It pretty much thought of everything for four. It actually designed the first Bronco in twenty five years to be configure. customizable with parts like bumpers, fender flares engineer to be easily removable and frameworks, less doors that are compact enough to pack into the trunk in storage bags to hoops on top defenders serve, both as corner sites and tie-down points for roof, mounted cargo or limb risers. A swing out tailgate is complemented by slide out tray. Oh, that can also conveniently be used as a table or if you prefer as a seat. When the hard or soft top is removed, the cabinet is entirely open to the sky, and of course, the elements Bronco doesn't have a crossbar connecting the roof rails behind the driver's seat, but it does have waterproof sit, switchgear, available, water, resistant, marine grade, upholstery, and rubber flooring with drain plugs. They thought of everything. High End models feature a twelve in central display while the top of the Dashboard has reports and attachment points for Iraq that can be used to mount mobile electronic devices, and of course you need to go pro. The action cameras a three sixty degree camera system with bird's eye and front views, vailable and Ford's co-pilot, three sixty driver suite of driver AIDS offers blind spot, monitoring and automatic emergency breaking well, no not adaptive cruise control, all Broncos have over the air software update capability that can be used to add features and troubleshoot issues with all vehicle systems, and let's say all systems weren't so much go last night as was accepting reservations for the Bronco with a one hundred dollar deposit and the reaction. The response was robust as so many people jumped online to put down that one hundred dollar deposit on the re imagined Ford Bronco that it actually. Crashed the website six fifteen, now thirteen ten. KFI, k. a thirteen ten KFI A dot com mornings with Gail. Live and local from the Auto Collision Specialists Studios this time tech sponsored by caring hearts home, healthcare, serving northern Colorado since two thousand, one where patient care always comes first nine, seventy, three, seventy, eight, four, zero, nine or carrying hearts, H H, dot com. Thirteen ten KFI preps radio is northern Colorado's home for the past high school coverage. This is mornings with gail thirteen ten KFI. The Dan Patrick Show is on the way at nine. Good News rockies fans this as Rockies outfielder. Charlie blackmon returns to the team actually returned yesterday after a bout with Corona. Virus Six, twenty, one now thirteen ten Kfi a thirteen ten, KFI K. A. DOT COM northern. Colorado's voice mornings week AOL. The auto collision specialist studios working for peace out of nine news by Will Peterson Colorado Rockies outfielder. Charlie blackmon returned the chorus field on Monday again three weeks after testing positive for Covid nineteen, the team had been working out without him as they prepare for that sixty. Sixty game season got a big boost to with a healthy Blackman back in the building back out on the field the all. Star outfielder said he's had ultrasounds and x rays done on his lungs and heart, and yes, he has indeed been cleared to play. I feel Great Blackman said on a conference call just yesterday afternoon. I felt that way for at least a couple of weeks now I had a day and a half of symptoms and after that I started feeling much better I wanna be ready for day. That's a pretty short period of time to get ready for Major League Baseball, but I'll do my best. That's the spirit Charlie. Blackmon said he never considered opting out of the season, but of course he needed to be cleared by doctors before he could return when asked about his experience with the virus Blackman. Plenty of details has symptoms. He said where what he would consider. Mild flu symptoms. He said he had a headache. I had a bit of a cough and then had some Bach Body. Eight says well I just felt Kinda sick, but it only lasted for about thirty six hours and I would consider it pretty mild. Compared to the flu, I had a couple of years ago Blackman went on to say I'm lucky. Lucky that my cove experience was not nearly as severe as many others are I know that it does affect everybody a little differently, but I would consider the symptoms that I've felt to be mild while the rockies have been back at chorus field now for more than a week Blackman was thrilled to join them on Monday. The isolation was starting to take its toll as it has on so many of us. I'm very happy to be back. He said it's just nice to walk through the Locker Room. See your buddies see your teammates. These are people you spend so much time with normally this time of year and people that I really enjoy being around. It's just nice to get back I was getting kind of bored. They're sitting in the basement in quarantine by myself. So with health and safety protocols in place including no high fives among players know spitting by the way Blackman said he's happy with the measures being taken, he also feels like he's quote. Out of the woods. Close quote when it comes to the virus. Honestly he said I feel like I'm the least at risk person in the. The building right now I've gotten over the virus with my antibodies that I've created now. I'm healthy and I. Don't expect to be at risk and I. Don't expect to be risking other people's health for the rest of the season. Blackman noted he'd be open to being the team's designated hitter to start the season and not play in the field if his body still needs more time to get into game shape of course Colorado opens in Texas against the Rangers on July twenty fourth but Yup Charlie Blackmon back in the game six, twenty, five, now thirteen, ten, Kfi a thirteen ten KFI, a dot com northern Colorado's voice well, still waiting to hear, we had quite the robust conversation yesterday morning. Talking about the fact that the offended me, says Oh, and there are many of them well. Finally, wearing down the Washington redskins. It was widely anticipated that the Washington redskins were going to announce that they were dropping the redskins and be the Washington. Whatever's are the Washington? Who Do you calls? The Washington widgets knows yet, but it was crickets from the Washington. redskins organization loved a couple of your posts on my facebook page because. Many of you took the same tack that I did finding jest a little bit preposterous, a little bit presumptuous that well. Let's just say. There is a guilty component of liberals out there that. Know Better. They know everything now, don't they? Yes, and they will make their voices heard this as I went through. Numerous surveys that were done with native Americans that found that nine out of ten native Americans have absolutely no issue whatsoever, no problem at all. They don't find it offensive. They don't find it as a racial slur, an ethnic slur, but the word Redskins, but the amazing thing is no that doesn't. Doesn't slow. The role of the nanny state is out there who know better than they do no better than native Americans and are just highly highly offended by the Redskins name, and of course you had redskins merchandise being pulled across the board and I can't help. Think what it really came down because you remember the redskins owners. When he was asked this, I believe it was back in May. He basically said We'll change Washington redskins name like never adding you can put that in all caps. Never well I guess never has arrived because well. It looks as though it's going to cost them a lot of money if they don't fold to the outrage, the Pearl clutching mob, but your thoughts this morning as we still await the name change, and of course was asking you yesterday. While what should the name be got? Some funding responses on that I kind of like the Washington widgets myself. Mica Kilpatrick came up with the Washington Congress. We had the Washington. Senators, the. Washington red tails. That was kind of interesting, because that is paying homage to the. Airman again interested in your thoughts as we await that announcement, because once again we got nothing but crickets yesterday from the Washington Redskins, any thoughts, nine, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, ten, eight, seven, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, ten. You can also drop me a text on art. Thirteen ten KFI text line I. I'm using it is in to do just text KPFK two, three, one, nine, nine six, and then you can just text away to your heart's content all right so begging. The question would a second round of stimulus. Help the economy, or is it actually time to start the big government funny money printing press doctor Michael. Butler is a public policy analyst economics, expert and Answer at Stockton University in New Jersey. He's got a little something something to say about that and then speaking of the Os so. Energetic, cancel culture, and well they're rather feisty movement to shut down all conversation that doesn't fit their politically correct narrative have heard of Goya. The goya a boycott because you had the CEO of Goya, actually having Oh the Jassim. To say something good about President, trump guess what he did the same thing when he was invited to the White House when President Obama was in office. Funny, how that didn't ruffle any feathers well, the cancel cancel. Culture movement is striking back this as the. By Kat as opposed to the GOYA boycott begins in support of local food. Banks will have all the information all the details. If you WANNA get engaged involved in that effort, so take that offended. Niece does six thirty now thirteen ten KFI KFI. Holes sports story in northern Colorado state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten KFI, k.. Tune into the hall show at noon, and no co now at four pack to mornings with Kale Northern Colorado's voice, thirteen ten k. f. k.. Well president trump pushing a second round of covid nineteen stimulus paste a payments. And You've got any number of a top economists I believe. the numbers around one hundred and fifty six, saying that the second stimulus. Checks should be recurring and direct this as the Treasury sent one point four billion dollars in stimulus payments. To Dead People Yeah I kid you not, and they knew they were doing it six thirty, seven, now, thirteen, ten KFI, a thirteen ten KFI K. dot com northern Colorado's voice mornings, so gail via the auto collision specialist studios all right, but is it time to stop the Big Government Funny Money Printing Press Professor Michael Butler is a public policy analyst economics expert and a professor of finance at Stockton University in New Jersey. Dr Bessler welcome back to the show. Good Morning Gayle my pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me man. It's my pleasure to talk with you once again. All right, so let's talk stimulus. The second wave of stimulus still boggles my mind that we send so much money to dead people. Yeah. Yeah so Here's here's what happened, so the economy was doing well early this year. The virus it we had to shut everything down plunged into deep but short recession. To get to make sure the recession was short and to try to stimulate the recovery as much as possible. The federal government passed a series of stimulus bill. Which essentially spent about three trillion dollars. Where did the money go? every adult virtually every adult who pay taxes last year or the year before got a twelve hundred dollar check family of four was thirty four hundred dollars. Webby were negatively impacted by the virus or not. You got the money from. Anybody would unemployed whatever their unemployment compensation check was from their state six hundred dollars. A week was added to that that resulted in more than two thirds of the unemployed people actually. Actually making more money being unemployed when they were working, but nonetheless they had plenty of money that spanned the loan program the small business What's could turn into a grant in most cases does ends up keeping as many businesses going as as possible, so there's a whole lot of stimulus already passed How has that worked well? The recession probably ended in the at the end of April in, May. the economy added two point eight million jobs. That's a record for any month. In addition, retail sales increased eighteen percent in May in addition, total consumer spending, which is retail sales, and some other things increased eight percent in May. Those are all records, so it looks like the economy started coming back strongly. We don't have a lot of data. Yet, but what we do have is the economy added four point eight million jobs in the month of June again, indicating the recovery has started. And we'll see what happens a lot of variables here. especially with the spike in cases right, I wanted to ask you about that. Because California imposing just yesterday new restrictions immediate hall to indoor activities, restaurants, bars, museums, zoos and movie theaters Democratic Governor Gavin. newsom said that The Los Angeles Unified School district. This is the nation's second largest after New York. York it would start the school year. Online organ, banning most indoor social gatherings of a more than a ten people governor Kate Brown Democrat said Monday. The state would require people to wear mass outside when they can't properly social distance I mean it seems as though many states. Florida Michigan Arizona Texas are basically drawing back on their efforts to reopen the economy. Yeah and that's certainly going to slow down what? Could be what looks like. It's going to be v-shaped recovery at least that put the data from May and June on a show. Now it looks like there's a second wave of the. Virus and all those states are pulling back on their opening plans, and that's going to slow things down a little bit I don't think another round of stimulus is needed at this point. It may be in the future, but I would hold off a little bit and here's the reason why. Cryer to the virus sitting the federal budget would have been one trillion dollars in deficit spending. What going dollars more and more taking in? We just spent another three trillion dollars so now the deficit is up. Four trillion plus tax revenue will go down to the economy. Shut out so long, so we're looking at probably worn half trillion dollar deficit this year. That's three times the record that was set back in twenty eleven of one point four trillion, so, is that a a big problem well? There is no mechanism in place the ever. Money back in other words, we borrow the money we sell bar. To do that. We pay interest on the bonds and the bonds come there. We can't pay them back, so we roll over the debt. We sell more new bonds to pay back bills kick the CAN chickens. The can down the proverbial road, saddling our kids and their kids and their kids with the debt. Exactly, so how much of a problem isn't so before this year? Total public debt was twenty three trillion dollars. We're going to add at least four trillion to that. This year gets it up to twenty seven. Is that a problem? Most economists will say if the public debt is less than one years GDP. You're okay if it gets more than one year EDP at starts to become a heavy burden, GDP is. Is only going to be in the twenty twenty one trillion dollar range this year. We're already up to twenty three and the deficit plus this year, so the deficit is going to be a problem. We're going to have to deal with and the public debt adding more to the deficit right now when it may not be needed I don't think is a very good idea. No, it's I mean it it. Once again and you referenced this when it came to those unemployment checks, be careful what you wish for. It's the law of unanticipated consequences because it affected a small business, particularly bars and restaurants many states. Bars and restaurants getting kit again with the second wave of shutdowns of closures and affecting a those employees particularly of restaurants and bars that said No. I'm just going to sit on the couch and collect the money, but the question is. Is You very cogently? Point out I mean. How can we keep just printing funny money? Answer is. We can't keep doing that at some point, this is really gonNA turn into a problem. A most economists will tell you if we continue to print money, you don't have and continue. Spend money rather that you don't have in your finance. Just by printing, you will end up with a very severe inflationary problem had some at some, and that's what the fear is the other thing the government keeps borrowing all this money that they pull out of money and capital markets less available for business, so business could get crowded out. That could create a capital shortage for them, and that too will slow down economic activity. So, where do you see all this going professor bustling? So, what I see right now from a fiscal standpoint, I wouldn't spend any more money. Let's see how things play out the month of May Look Great. Retail sales were up. Jobs merch the month of June the data. We have some looks good that we. We understand that July things are starting to slow down a little bit, but let's see what the impact of that is. We're talking primarily hospitality industry that WHO's been clobbered by the by the way. Getting hit again, but other sectors of the economy. Particularly the manufacturing sector is recovering now, so let's see whether this other stimulus is needed before we go ahead and pass another one to three trillion dollars that we don't have. Very well said. How does this affect of that v-shape recovery? I still think it's a V. shape. The V it's just not quite as steep so it'll be a little less of A. As time time goes forward, but I still very positive about the recovery out. Things are going and again I wouldn't create any more deficit spending until we see how this first round played out. covid nineteen. The response to it throughout many states as I made the point earlier. particularly those that are led by Democrats well. I don't want to necessarily go political here, but it seems to me that many democratic governors have gone that route. It is an election year. It certainly is in I you. would. That politics would dot come into play? With something as serious as the recession is, and the number of people have been affected. However, politics does come into clay and the politicians on both sides have to be concerned are concerned with what's going to happen and November and I think that's driving a lot of their thinking people that are pushing the stimulus it in the short term. It will have very positive effects. We'll get the economy going again. People are GonNa have more money to spend they're. They're going to feel better so short term. It makes sense and if you're looking at it, November election. That's the reason why they're pushing this. But if you're looking a little bit longer term or never going to get out of the deficit and debt problem. If you continue to spend money, we don't have and especially the money you're spending may not be needed. It is amazing. That's the one thing that Democrats. And Republicans can agree on, and that is out of control spending. Amazing Dr, Michael Bus Ler public policy analysts, economics, experts, and a professor of finance at Stockton University in New Jersey. Can we learn more about you and your work? Surely So. If you follow me on twitter. At 'EM, Bachelor! That's at M. B., US L. E. R. as you have a facebook page search for funding democracy, funding democracy, and all my columns are there. It'd be happy if you've followed me. Professor Bessler pleasure as always. Thanks so much for your time. Particularly your insights really appreciate it. Thank you. Gail afford to doing it again. You Bet six forty eight now thirteen ten KFI. The Best UNC bears target game coverage lives on thirteen ten Kfi K.. The day's headlines podcast mornings with Gail and more and schedule upcoming sports broadcasts find them at thirteen ten KFI. Dot Com. Cancel culture continues to try and drown out what they consider non politically correct voices of counter movement has popped up college. The cancel cancel culture initiative, and you can take part six, fifty, four, now thirteen ten K F K a thirteen ten KFI K. dot com northern Colorado's voice mornings with Gail, live and local via the auto collision specialist studios all right, so many took to social media to express who they're just pleasure disdain when Goya foods, CEO Robert Unanue. Praised president trump at a white. House event this past Thursday, but your chance to flip the narrative and instead of. Boycotting Goya foods well, a new initiative has sprung up. It is the Goya foods by Kat the by Kat. Radio host Mike Appel Co road on twitter. My brother came up with a terrific idea I'm encouraging all to join me in purchasing ten dollars worth of Goya foods, products and donating them to your local food bank. What a great idea! Let's push a by Kat. Not a boy cots lead show the HASHTAG GOI away people. What compassion can actually do now? You had Fox News host Mark Levin jumping on board as well. Well, as it Senator Marco Rubio most of these people senator, Rubio tweeted fronting a Goi a boycott either don't use soy foods anyway, and most of those who do will cave by Hashtag Nacho Buena, controversy is inspired some Goya food fans to give Back Virginia Resident Casey Harper starting to go fund me on Saturday to buy your products to donate food to donate to food pantries pages already more than half way to. Ten Thousand Dollar goal now Mr You now new head of the new jersey-based Company said Friday. The boycott is a reflection of a division that exists today in our country that is killing our nation with the president were with this country right left center up and down, unanimous said Goya foods claims to be the largest Hispanic, owned food label in the entire nation now united said that Americans were quote truly blessed to have. Trump is a leader while speaking at a Hispanic Prosperity Initiative at the White House on a Thursday so jump in on the Goya by caught to support local food pantries I. Think it's a great idea. Six fifty six now thirteen ten k. f. k.. Six eight on your Tuesday morning, Thirteen Ten K. F K A thirteen ten KFI DOT com. Northern Colorado's voice mornings tail, live and local via the collision that Specialists Studio support that Goya by Kat. What a great idea! As the cancel canceled Culture Movement gets underway now is information overload making us all a little scatter brained. That is my facebook post. Are, you finding that well multitasking for all that it's touted to be along with technology is making you well somewhat forgetful well. I've got the details if I remember them coming up, but interested. If that's been your experience, nine, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, ten, eight, seven, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, ten. 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Cowboys whiff on Dak at the deadline

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Cowboys whiff on Dak at the deadline

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The podcast Matt Moseley Vacationing Matt Moseley but you have to come in from the beach at a big moment like this Edward or working to beat as always was imposition day in case, anything happened it. It's not deadline comes and goes at three o'clock central and Dak Prescott. Will play next season underneath the franchise tag it. We knew this was where it was headed. And and I think all your reporting and everything we were hearing was suggesting nothing. Nothing big was happening at the last minute, but still I think you know you kind of wonder. Could there be some last deal to create good feelings in the aftermath? This Pat Mahomes, could cowboys pull something off? They certainly did not now that it's actually officially happened at or you even the history of this, and and you've well-documented that are you? How surprised are you They were not able to to to find a long term contract. I'm not I'm not terribly surprised by it because it seemed that they've been in intractable positions in this negotiation for quite some time, it shouldn't take. sixteen months to get a deal done. and I've just been told in terms of how the day played out. That in the hours before the NFL deadline, teams assigned franchise tag players, Dak, Prescott and Cowboys Executive Vice President Steven Jones had a very brief. Told check the boxes five minute conversation. That the team requested and Todd France the quarterbacks agent facility. You know Jerry and the cowboys front office have a reputation around the league, believing that they can finalize contracts if they can converse with their player directly in privately and so they reached out multiple times today, officials within the organization to convince Prescott to give Jerry or Stephen and audience, so e soppy advice of his Asian is agent todd. France suggested he go ahead in return the call and so did. in addition to that has also spoke. Stephen Jones a separate conversation, but there was no significant progress made a long term deal, and so now prescot becomes third quarterback in NFL history. To play on the Franchise Tag. and his salary of thirty one point four million is the highest salary cap number for any individual player in the NFL this season. And as we all know, it's only going to escalate from this point forward and create even more challenges for the cowboys next year under the salary cap especially winds up being a flat cap or reduced cap because income in in all likelihood is going to be greatly reduced in the NFL. Assuming they're even isn't NFL season this year. It that that certainly appears to be the case on all those fronts. I'm fascinated by. These discussions took place today. You're right. Jerry loves the thought of fury that dealmaker. Let me talk to the player. I think agents have been known over the years. Let's do everything in our our to prevent that from happening so interesting to talk brand said Yeah. Yeah I'm I'm okay. We all have in that conversation to the substance. Of those conversations do we have any sense that did Jerry move significantly? Would you think this was more of an emotional plea? Do this with us. do this five year. What do you think this these conversations Intel? I from what I can gather based on the conversations I've had about it I. Don't think any significant progress was made on any of the issues that have resulted in this impasse. obviously you neither side. substantively changed their. Position. ordeal deal would have been done so I don't think the cowboys suddenly sent it back Hey. We'll offer you a four year deal because if they would have done that and I think he'll get. so I think it was more of a An opportunity to the cowboys feel like you know if they can just talk to the player directly. They can help him to understand arguments that maybe they've made to the agent that they feel haven't been conveyed. In the right context, or with the right emphasis to the Blair and if they do that directly, maybe they can make the player see their point of view except their position that may in a way that maybe otherwise doesn't happen. When negotiations conducted indirectly between the team of the player you know, I think there have been a lot of times where agents have accused Jerry of this kind of conduct and he's. He's insisted that they don't do anything of this of this sort, and then it's. It's illegal or it's unethical, and they would never engage in such activities, but. Here's another example of them making that attempt and I. Don't blame them for that. I mean if I had a player that I was offering hundred million dollars to. He was my player for four years. If I starting quarterback, and I made him I put him in that position, and I supported him and I own the team Maybe I WANNA have that conversation with with that person directly to because I've different relationship with him. that I have with the agent or the agent has the player but. You know nothing. Was Accomplished and I think that was the expectation. I think the interesting thing now is you know what happens because as I mentioned the only other players at the quarterback position in since one, thousand, nine, hundred three, when the system was put in place, the play, an actual season on the sat on the ranch tagger drew brees and kirk cousins. Who did it twice? And both of them wound up leaving their organizations to to get long-term deals elsewhere, and you know the common denominator. Those situations was that there was not universal belief in either player within the organization I know with a case of breeze. They had already acquired Philip rivers. It's been a first round pick to get him from the giants and so there were people in management who were advocating that rivers be given the starting quarterback job, and I think Marty Schottenheimer favored breeze while nobody in the there seem rampant indecisiveness about you know cousins as a as a franchise quarterback redskins organization. When got that historic? All guaranteed deal with the Vikings now now. That doesn't seem to be the issue with back in the cowboys, but you know as troy. Aikman mentioned us when he was a guest a couple of weeks ago. Certainly doesn't help that relationship between the player, the most important player on the team. and the organization. You wonder how it's GonNa play in the locker room. And you and I understand it back. Prescott who you know, feel that he hasn't been treated fairly. How could he be the one player not to get what he considers to be a fair deal? He's played at a sub market deal for all four years. You started single game for sixty four consecutive games by far the longest. Longest streak in the NFL for anybody wasn't a first round pick How does he wind up being the one player in that Locker Room? Not to get what he considers an equitable deal and I think that's the thing to watch as we you know. Keep an eye on monitor the situation going forward, and certainly it creates a potential for Dak Prescott not to the cowboys quarterback two years from now. Yeah and I think that's a shocking park. You and I I mean well. Especially you AIKMAN, natter front row you on that and I joined you on the front row view. With Tony and and I was trying on my radio show earlier today you'll be proud of me and I did call in during way Keisha on made it appearance on my own show. and I was the only time I could recall. That Tony. You know E-. Even was a little bit. You got a little bit interesting. Until the end there was that two thousand seven. He got off to a very hot start. That was the final year of his deal in. You know you and I broke that story I mean he was? He was getting a little bit perturbed with Jerry is five six seven games into that season, and they started putting up huge numbers in theory. I mean. God and they did a huge deal. You remember the whole thing was going. Oh, they're gonNA. Up Mark Bolger deal. Thing does what they're period. We ended up getting. Any ended up getting another big enormous deal so the they never liked Aikman. They never let Tony. Close anything like this and I. Get eight one played in a different era Tony's I mean all these numbers are so huge. All these eras feel differently, but Tony, certainly a better cop than than troy would be. Treated Tony! He treated him like a son so a one hand. I think we both think yes, is different in a sense that I know this cousins breeze. I mean. I do think there's a deep respect and the cowboys. No, they absolutely lucked out in getting Dak. Prescott. WHO's put up great numbers but? What choice dealers were so true. I mean you can't help but think this is going to be in the back of DAX. Mind moving forward in so. These specific about what what Troy said because I happen to have transcribed it and it was here. Mark show a month or so ago and he. You know question whether ask. The credit organization that he deserved and mentioned the comments, the Jerry made. During data rookie, irking season, but with great story would be. Promo came back and won the playoffs. And then, and then choice said specifically about a quote of now if he can't come to agreement knowing Jack. He's going to go about his business like he always has A. I would think deep down. There might be those feelings that maybe he's not as respected or appreciate is as much as he'd like. When you're talking about this kind of money, the only question to ask is can you win a super bowl with if you can use, sign him and pay whatever's necessary, and if you don't you look for other possibilities. Possibilities yeah, I think that that's everything you need to know. And that's a really good frame of reference in you and I've been bringing up a lot via twitter and be some of the other social media in this thing again the news today coming down the pre, the deadline has come and gone and I ed. You've done a really nice job today. I've I've tried to every once in a while. Re tweets you and put a little something out there myself. I I would just say that I, you know and I, said something. It was very obvious point, but again. I think it is interesting to think about if. If they were able to go win a super bowl this year than I. mean you know Jerry then would just have. He would be happy to do it. You'd be happy to break the bank and do this forever, but if the ill show sailing. There's always that chance. I can't being whatever it is. Although, I. Think at that point in order to not look like some just. Absolute, Greenacres type idiot or something Jerry would have to break the bank even if it meant screw his team. You know in the future I mean literally. It's kind of like a few years ago it. We all think Joe FLACCO is the greatest quarterback ever. No, no, I mean I don't think anybody's going around saying. Oh, my Gosh laco he's. You're super bowl in. It was like all right Yep. I'm sorry it doesn't matter anymore. It's sixty three million now. The funny thing is who got the exact same deal Ed. Is Joe FLACCO? Well well, the problem here will be. GAC is going to be at that point another year closer to unrestricted free agency. which might have great appeal to him and he's to go off not the thirty one point. Five million dollars is being paid this year off mixture. Franchise tag number assuming he would get that. which is you know, thirty seven point, seven million dollars, and now you mentioned the Super Bowl. The cowboys. With this with this happening the way it did and Dak Prescott, not only being the first franchise tag quarterback in in team history, but now the first to play on the franchise tag. The cowboys accomplished nothing with the advantage of having a quarterback start every game while playing four seasons on a rookie contract, a fourth round, pick contract, and they wasted that advantage and steady of winning the Super Bowl like Africa homes just with the chiefs for. Instance rookie year you know when his second year when the? Place while and help them to Bill A. Getting injured. Challenging. Brands did host. Their. Apple. Poipet, Had Finally The. Past decade and now they're committed to proceeding with their quarterback. Highest compensated players in the entire league for the. Future unless permitted archer in the prime is career and. You. Look at where you know a big picture. At this time in cowboys, entering training camp in. Three of their most important players prescod. Mario Cooper and didn't go according to plan at all instead. By all three players. You know with two years of team control remaining under. Elliott. Training Camp Holdout. And signed only when he forced the cowboys to make him the highest paid player in the League at his position at the time. And then taking advantage of the cowboys, having to use the franchise tag on Prescott, Cooper manipulates the situation and is able to solicit offers as an unrestricted free exploited that opportunity into a Utah couple of division rival team in Washington, and that forced the cowboys to pay him at the top of the market, and now now Prescott is going to be the highest paid player in the NFL at least based on the amount charged to any team salary cap of any player in the league this year. I mean this is no way to build your team. What he's GonNa count against the cap potentially versus what Patrick Mahomes won a super bowl already been. MVP. in one year you know one of your less than than press. His cap numbers are five point three, million, twenty four point eight million. By million, you'd never I during the years back. Thirty one point, four, million, thirty, seven point, seven, million and fifty four point two million. So you see the disadvantage that the cowboys are going. To with. Play with about by having lost their negotiations with all three of these players Yeah, they beat Layout Colin. Smith, but he didn't win any of these three deals. In to your point, the context all this is happening in is that the Kansas City chiefs won the Super Bowl and you already brought the homes, but I'll. I'll reinforce the fact that they want. It would at bombs. And then they had a couple years left on it so for a couple years now and again everybody's focused on the forty five million a year I get that so huge number the first of all it's a fixed number. It number ten years, so no matter what. You'd like to think the economy might come back someday we'll find a vaccine will get past this. They've got a fixed amount for that long, and they have all the control. They can walk away. Yeah, he gets. He gets guaranteed money, but. In the NFL they can walk away from these contracts. They probably won't want to. Because he's unbelievable. In for two years for two years, they can keep doing whatever they want to do. For for a smaller amount than what you just said that thirty one point four over the next two years. What is it for? mahomes basically adds up to about thirty one point four. Am I right for the next two years home to? Twenty thirty point one million and acts. We will be sixty nine point one million in the same time program. He's GonNa Count the. Cowboys are paying are being charged on their salary cap six times as much for Dak Prescott, as the chiefs are being charged this year for. Patrick, Mahomes who's the generation of. Talent who's already accomplished everything you can accomplish in the NFL and. Franchise Bladder yesterday. Chris Jones you know the backhoe. They were able to do that because they were able to manage their quarterback, you know. How much you can charge their cap. Do you think that Clark? Just wrote. You know Kinda rolls by Jerry's house. They live over there and same neighborhood. Just Kinda just Kinda. Give it a below wink. I mean they are on top of the world right now again. If, the cowboys somehow were able to pull out super bowl with DAK Prescott DAK would have the greatest he grace leverage you any quarterback ever. He would be sitting there and he can do it every wanted if he was still mad about the way he treated him, he could walk away if he wanted to make forty eight billion a year, he could make forty eight million a year. When there's a lot of things it could happen, but This is in heading mission it yet. You've seen this I. Know DAX brother TAD has. HAS SOUNDED OFF BE. Social media on twitter and basically said I wasn't a cowboy span before my brother got there and I don't know how long I'll be in the future, so it's always interesting a lot of times in these negotiations, the the the the loved ones will be a little more willing to come out there with some of those raw comments than the actual people you know the actual stars that have been involved in the innate negotiations, so but I think that is a tale I mean, certainly if his brother fills comfortable enough to I, just have a hard time making tag swint. Kinda lost his nerve waltzes. Mind did that without Dak without dancer. Who knows you? You never know what brothers do, but still. I got a feeling that acts like no. It's okay. Leave it out there. Right I mean I think one of the things that because this just not been at least from the agent point of view, you know Todd France has not been. willing to negotiate in the media or of reveal to the public. What This negotiation has been lying, and because because of the unique circumstances as many access to Jerry and Steven Jones this offseason since the draft. You know they've kind of been quiet. There's been a lot more acrimony and conflict in this to go. Shea Shin than people are aware of. And I think that's what DAX brother is sort of revealing and you know I. Think it's naive to assume. Actress. Guys can finish his career with the cowboys I mean while Troy Aikman and Tony. Romo spent their entire careers in Dallas let's not forget the Tom Brady Joe. Montana peyton manning. Branch Arbor among the quarterbacks who played for multiple teams. And the cowboys are putting themselves. Very difficult position. In terms of having enough. Cap Space to create the kind of team. They want now. They'll tell you. That's why they've held the line on this deal with that Prescott. That's what they've said. All along right on all these deals is is they're only going to allocate a certain amount because they wanna be able to create competitive team while having your quarterback your most expensive planet. They're charging amount of any player. Is Really not away to create a competitive team and maintain a competitive team now. I think GAC has a lot of respect for the value. Of The star on the side of his helmet, he's recognized obviously the financial value of being the quarterback, the cowboys, most visible team in the NFL, the most valuable in all pro sports and playing you know in in a in a place where there's no state income tax that all has value to. but this could be certainly a matter of pride, and and and I think it's gotta be hard for Dak Prescott given the level of commitment. He's demonstrated. Given the fact that he took over for Tony Romo and played so well and gain the confidence of the coaching staff in the locker to a point that Romo never got an opportunity to get back on the field and win the job back when he was healthy. I think he has to feel wrong in all of this. How how can you have the commitment and the work ethic and exceed expectations and your draft status, and you're and what you've been paid by the organization to the degree, the Dak has and be the one guy who gets taken advantage of by the organization and doesn't get what you feel. You deserve. Yeah, and think about what you said you you got. You got to new guys right done terry pro injured McCoy who have called out the owner for not speaking in the aftermath of? George Floyd murder. E You. You already have sort of atmosphere and people across the League Richard Sherman included calling out the owner you put on top of that or your franchise quarterback you had. All these you all this time to get this worked out in. You didn't do right by deck now again. I get it. The cowboys made offers stock. ACT LIKE I don't WanNa I. DON'T WANNA snowball, but but same time it I'm just trying to add. There's a lot right now. That Harry during all this has he east? He's got some he's. He's got some things to overcome in East. Got Some baggage right? Now is a interest season, which may or may not happen. We hope it happens. We'll see lasting is go say it to you by the way. Are you hearing anything on a noticeable show? Shock you? I was. Ordered to make sure you and I are in position to do. Our pods from cowboys training camp. And recently I jumped on their. He's been proud of me on like July eighth or ninth I on the deal to do to request my my credential online and it. It said that it was already too late to do that. So the good news is now that you're back would be SPN which last year. If you'll remember you were. You were kind of on my time and then boom here ESPN back up right around the same time. I. Know You're taking care of, but I may teach your help as what I'm saying. if we are to cover training camp away, we accustomed to a made needle may need a little help from me because my relationship with Pr. Staff I know you've got some ups and downs with them. You shockingly. Your relationship is better than mine right now. It's just A. It's a matter of You know it's a temporary situation. Matt I'm sure you'll. Get out in front of them and they can interact with you would. Do your magic. Little Magic. then. They listen to this podcast. You make. The by the time we sign off here quite honestly. I think I've probably. A little bit more critical than you have been. To, this point in the game, and and you know that's a fair point. To and I, want to as well which is they have offered Dak Prescott a lot of money and they've offered him out of money for a long time they they offered what they described as being. You know a top five quarterback salary when they went to training camp last year, so so it's not like they don't recognize. He has value and he has been treated fairly. They have made a concerted effort. Spend their priority. Get this done. I just think that that. To me. You don't you? Don't let your fear of setting a precedent with a four year extension. Be The issue that prevents you from having long term security at the most important position at the end, the game and our understanding is that the cowboys wanted this deal to be five years. Apple wanted four years or less so that when that TV revenue comes in swimming, circumstance were now, but eventually does. He wants to take advantage of that and be. Agent you know before he turns thirty. And and that's understandable. Given what he's made. The first four years he was in the League not commensurate with his team, but If I'm the cowboys. You know as much as I am I I might believe that. Hey, you're getting paid at this level I want a five year more commitment. I want to be able to spread that salary cap net guaranteed money over a longer period of time, so that creates more flexibility to sign other players so loud you to be great, and for our team to succeed. You know I just can't believe that putting yourself in this situation. Is Worse than is giving in on the four year deal, because at some point during the four-year deal, you know you're going to be able to negotiate another extension that going to read another favorable situation for your super your team. and this is the worst possible outcome. they could have had. Their most important player and I, and I think it really probably all started. with what they did with the you know I think rewarding him for holding out. and May, and doing what they said, they wouldn't make him. The highest paid back in football that was a mistake and and that's played a role in this outcome with Dak Prescott today plays a more important position and I understand why it happened I. Even I even said at the time that I would pay Ezekiel Elliott because unlike most team's. The cowboys are built around. They're running. Running back, not their quarterback. Yeah, that proved not to be true with the way they played last season. Some of that being because their defense and their special teams are so bad. They're playing from all the time, but you gotta you gotTa Take Care of the quarterback before we take care of the running back especially with the running backs, not doing it the right way and the quarterback is. About to contract, and the running back was the first round. Pick you two years to control left. You keep your priorities straight in that situation, so let's let's. Let me, ask you this, okay. Let's say there is a two thousand twenty season. and. We're all sort of hoping and counting on that. Is, Dak Prescott. quarterback, the cowboys in two thousand, twenty, one as you sit here and look at the situation today. What your gut tell you. Yeah I think he will be obviously. The big risk for GAC is injury. and you know the way he plays the game and the fact that Travis, Frederick Not GonNa be there. Maybe that increases the risk, just a little bit more. There would for most other players at his position. But yeah I mean I I. Don't think there's any reason to think that if. thirty one. I think he's got a have a better you know with CD lamb with Mike McCarthy with Callan more more experience. I would fully expect act to have. one of his better seasons shown progress route the course of his career through four years I'd expect that to continue and I think then the cowboys will be in the position while we just let him play on the franchise tag again that thirty seven million dollars. yeah I think it'll be the quarterback for this year for next year. And after that I think is a big unknown. Okay and as you made the point today, the twitter for people that don't quite understand how that works eight. It'll keep going up and so there could be another tag that would occur in two thousand and twenty two. That would go up to somewhere around fifty four million, which is. sounds like pure insanity at this point and you. You would think something would have to give at that point, but you're right. If they thirty one four point four jump to thirty seven Yeah, you know you could, you could see them trying to do it, but up very very strange. Approach it. They've taken and I. Really appreciate it. We're in different parts of the country. You can probably tell, but still with Preto doing a nice job donation productions. We've been able to pull this off. I've gone to ed one of the parts of the country that really. They've done really well with this Koga at Florida and put up staying on being I'm I'm being very very protective and I haven't within feet of anybody. In fact during this conversation when someone Kinda K Kinda walk in my direction I got up and move. So I'm doing everything I can I know you are, and Frito is backing Alan and You've been between Colorado and Alan Seeing Little Henry Delilah the whole gang, but to be back with you in appreciate you bringing so much insight to to this emergency doomsday podcast. Spend enjoyable, and hopefully the PR staff won't continue to social distancing itself from you to access. once I decide how we're. GonNa Handle Training Camp and we can be out there. 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Thursday 16 July

Monocle 24: The Briefing

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Thursday 16 July

"You're listening to the briefing first broadcast on the sixteenth of July, two thousand and twenty on monocle twenty four. The briefing is brought in association with Aliens. As part of the programs partnership with Allience, we are bringing you stories that demonstrate. TO SECURING PEOPLE'S LIVES Off To role for one hundred and thirty years all around the globe Alleanza has been working hard to do just that. Give Courage to its customers for what's ahead. Because allience knows how important it is to have a fair partner, your side who provide solid and sustainable solutions. Leon strives to do it right we've. Passion everyday. Stay tuned to the briefing. Dear, exactly how allience does it? An alleanza for life. Hello and welcome to the briefing broadcasting to you live from studio one here at Missouri House in London. I'm Georgina Godwin coming up. We'll have the very latest. As Taiwan's army begins vast military drills in the face of Chinese aggression, also ahead, the political consultant Anna Rosenberg will tell us what we need to know. About high profile talks in Brussels plus will be finding out why the American football team the Washington Redskins has finally decided to change its name. It is, or it should have been and. And sometime ago, the greatest, no brainer in the history of rebranding, if there ever was the time that it was anything other than thunderously O. Fish to call a football team, the redskins it elapsed around the time the last stagecoach rattled along the Santa Fe trail. Thank you and to, and lastly we'll find out what we can expect. Cities Pergram later today on monocle writer. Nick Minnesota and talking about infill developments in Perth and architectural movie nights that right here on the briefing with me to eighteen. Taiwan's military has been conducting a live fire drill today, which is based on the scenario of an invasion by mainland China, but how real is that threat? Beijing claims the self-ruled island as its own just yesterday to Chinese vessels, was seen off Taiwan's east coast Taipei, for its part has accused Chinese military aircraft of frequent incursions into its space. Well, let's get more on this with run. WHO's director of Oxford University's China Center a Ronin let's just start by giving this some international context. This is positive five days of wargames as we know, the new Hong Kong security. Bill has been passed by Beijing, which has prompted a number of actions including the US Autonomy Act, can you explain why this is relevant? Yes I mean these wargames Georgina Enoch new. The Hunger Games are essentially carried out each year. They have been delayed this year because of the cove nineteen pandemic on which one has to add Taiwan. Has she done very well and has a very low infection rate, but the context this year is different launched you because China, mainland China has been getting into a much more confrontational state of mind, not just tie one, but actually with many of its neighbors and other countries as well. Well, and this is coming at the same time that the temperature with the United States and the trump administration is also rising, so you say on both sides of the Pacific there is much stronger sense of confrontation and much less of a sense of cooperation, and that makes these particular wargames, perhaps a little more edgy in that context now China successfully lobbied many countries to shun Taiwan, but the US is a military ally. Would any attack on Taiwan immediately trigger an aggressive response from Washington? No, it wouldn't Georgina. Eight is governed under something called the nine hundred seventy nine Taiwan relations. ACT, which says that the United States should give appropriate assistance to Taiwan. That is a very long way from the kind of guarantee that say Japan has the most utmost funding for ally of the United States, but what it does mean is that the United States can't sell arms to Taiwan, and that is one of the things that the trump administration has really been ramping up on to the great fury of Beijing so you say it's more that they're no-holds-barred in terms of the US, helping Taiwan to help itself Roth and actually coming directly to its aid. So I understand that yesterday alive torpedo was fired from Taiwan Navy submarine that hasn't happened in in over a decade. So I mean that would seemingly make these games not much more significant. Well. I think it's certainly the case that Taiwan's forces are making sure that their capabilities are as strong as they. They can be over the decades. There has been sometimes slightly sort of make amends type of attitude. It seems towards Taiwan's on forces particularly in the previous decade thousands, when actually relations between the mainland Taiwan Rushdie warm when the government position going down Nationalist Party and so I. I think there was no concentration on military side. Now it looks as if with a relatively pro-independence DP charge Taiwan and the US administration determined to confront China. These war games now have perhaps more significant than that means. The technology is also being upgraded now. Australia's also stepped up rhetoric towards China Britain sending a carrier to the Indo Pacific region. Is the bulk getting ready for the next big conflict? I think the world is getting used to what is becoming I. Think perhaps regrettably kind of new sort of cold war. It's not let yield code warlike with one with the Soviet Union, because the economic intertwining between China and the wider world is much closer than it was in the days of the Soviet Union and the United States, but there's no doubt that the security considerations on all sides, including shiner itself a becoming. Becoming, much stronger than the desire for economic cooperation in areas, even though, of course, the language still being used on all sides is one that is trying to find a settlement so I think conflict since drills do stroke sorry still seems very unlikely, but on the other hand the idea that both sides may be looking to retreat into themselves finding few angles, talk and actually talk things out. That is a worrying possibility. Places like Taiwan and Australia. Refuges potential refuges for those young activists who could be looking to leave Hong? Kong. Yes, they are, and Taiwan, has made it pretty clear that if Moore wants to to leave Hong Kong then going to tie, one would certainly be a possibility for German. Australia, I think recently announced up to ten thousand Hong, Kong residents could be given residents in Australia is. They wanted the general sense I have from talking to people in Hong Kong is that the aim is not to immediately pack bags and leave. It's more that they want to know that there are options if things get more hardline in Hong Kong itself, the new Security Legislat- legislation is very wide ranging. Ranging and vague and Conan in its overall capabilities. What we haven't yet seen in really we'll see this. Autumn is whether the courts are prepared to fulfill the law at its maximum level will be restrained, and whether or not Democrats do well in the September legislative elections in Kong I think we'll be straws in the wind will then shape people's decisions about with stay with leaf, and of course, as the whole issue of Hong, Kong remaining at financial capital of the world, and we've seen just the new. York, times, a couple of days ago, pulling out many of its bureau staff. Can, it can keep its prominence on the international stage I think he's got one particular threads that the Chinese authorities will be keen to keep up which is the ability to raise really deep pools of venture capital for China's burgeoning tech industry, a large section of which is based just across the Hong Kong bordering Xinjiang, the huge city that's be built up on the Chinese mainland side of that that border, but I think they will still be wariness that if essentially Hong Kong's system including independent judiciary, free media, and all of those elements essentially chipped away so much longer. Than I think a lot of international businesses will be wary about whether they can really get a fair shake on call and I think the authorities know that I'm going to have to try and calibrate to make sure that doesn't happen Ron. Thank you very much indeed. That was Oxford University's run hitter. You're listening to the briefing, a monocle twenty four. Germany's Europe minister has accused the. Of sharing insufficient realism about what can be achieved Michael Roth will chair a meeting of the bloc's foreign ministers this weekend as Germany holds the rotating presidency of the EU, the UK leaves the organization at the end of the year, and if no withdrawal agreement is reached by then then there's likely to be significant, commercial and logistical disruption. Anna Rosenberg is head of Europe and the UK at the political consultancy. Signal Global Anna? Thanks for joining us. Is it looking increasingly likely that the UK will crush out of Europe without a deal. I think the concerns of a no deal are overblown I. Think actually that's quite low likely. If had a a no deal would already be there. So our base case expectations for no deal is pretty low at twenty percents, but I think what people are am overestimating is the potential impact of a deal, so our base case expectations is that we're going to have sexual mini deals in a few areas of the economy, and that's going to be perceived as good news. However, it's important to stay that that will still cost quite a lot of disruption to the UK and the European economy as well because we're going to have some areas of the economy being covered by deal, and so that's the real most likely outcome, and it's not a benign outcome either I mean. Can we quantify that disruption? So it's it's still up to be seen, but if you think about the services sector, sector is the largest in the UK. Economy and one is not going to be covered by deal. Most likely potentially with exception of the financial services sector that means that's it's going to be quite a lot of disruption, so we're going to see a huge impact from brexit. No mental. What the UK government will try to hide this under. The you know the the results from the Colbert on on the economy, but it's not going to be enough to really hide all the economic effects on the UK economy from the ultimate brexit outcome. Do you think that Michael Roaf is right when he says that you UK has insufficient realism. Well I. think that it's just. A different perspective. The UK wants to get as much as I can get understandably, and it doesn't want to commit in order to get everything that it wants to get so so they are pushing for a lot. Hoping that the more they push for the more they will get, so yes, in a way it is unrealistic, but in a way it's A. It's a perfectly valid negotiating, if you. You want a lot. You're ask for more, and you hope that you get at least sixty percent of what you ask for, and that's going to be a good outcome for the EU. It's the it's the opposite. The you initially sought that agreement would be much more comprehensive. That's what they really wanted a now. They are realizing that they also must be happy with at least a partial agreement. On how far is the EU prepared to go to meet Britain on this? Well I. DO think that the e you want to reduce really negative impact onto the market, but they will want to continue to protect their interests I think that you will give in to some areas compromise for example on state aid was a key topic before I think that's not going to be so anymore. Also because of the fact that the E has watered down its demands on state anyway, because of Colbert I think that the EU may give an on some aspects of financial services in some aspects of fishing. Fishing and on the level, playing field, and equally the UK give we'll given in quite a few areas, and so I think there's going to be more compromise than meets the eye at the moment, but again I can only stress that the ultimate outcome would win. It goes. Shooting about is going to be fairly limited in scope. Let's let's look ahead to the summit. This we can. What's on the agenda I mean? Do you expect e you leaders to agree to the seven hundred and fifty billion e you recovery fund. Yes. We expected that they're going to find an agreement on it. It's controversial. Of course the consensus has been that it would require more meetings. We are quite positive on the agreement to be found for a variety of reasons first because the has been quite a lot of soft diplomacy in action over the past weeks, and it would be hugely detrimental the e if they fail to find an agreement after really finally meeting person in the middle of. Of Global Pandemic it, which is the really really bad and all of them know also that too much is at stake to not signed an agreement, and if you look at what's happened over the past few weeks, rhetoric against the Recovery Fund has started to to to fade out, so it's more likely than not in our opinion that we're going to find a positive message at the end of the week, even from the the so-called frugal full. Yes from them, I think that if you look at what the leaders there have been saying that they have increased tone up down there opposition, and specifically the Dutch Prime Minister Mark I think for him all of this mainly an internal political cal play than real concern with what's going on at the EU level so initially it was all about how much money it is, and it shouldn't be distributed in grinds. GRINDS, it should all be loans. That's kind of faded away now. Instead. He's insisting on governance. He wants an individual e. you countries to decide over how the money should should be spent, so it's really about posturing. It's about making a point and he's clearly enjoying the position. He is at the moment, but his track record politically shows that ultimately he does given to to e you demands and he should because. He. It will be very difficult for him politically to be responsible in case that no agreement is found. What about demands, the various green and human rights issues are respected in terms of this agreement. So in terms of the green issues I think that's another interesting thing that has just kind of become commonplace. No one's disputing that from the outset of the crisis, the EU has emphasized that the Kobe crisis will be an opportunity to accelerate the the green goals of the you, and wherever possible they have continued to stress that, so we think there's not going to be a lot of opposition on attaching green conditions to the recovery summed. That's going to be passed of course when you look at the details, they are not so green after role, but they look so fine. That's one thing on the human rights aspects. There's debate about. Attaching conditions on paying out money to. A turn to the US rule of role in reality. That's not going to pass. Because Hungary's against that Poland is against that as long as these two countries have each other's back. It's not going to pass so expect this will be postponed. Well, let's let's look at the issue of postponing and timing. Because of course, there's limited time available ahead of the summer recess that happens at the end of July and when the EU comes back in September. BREXIT IS LIKELY TO BE CENTER STAGE, isn't it? So how is this going to work? While exactly I think they just have to find agreement they have no time left not to find one. If if they really do not come to an agreement I, think we may see more negotiations potentially also offline in July I don't think August will see anything. So the the latest you can find an agreement of this is to be September, and then as you rightly point out. Out We're, GONNA turn our attention again to brexit. So that's why we off any high and our confidence level at sixty five percent that we're going to see some meaningful compromise, which this weekend and finally Angela Merkel. Of course, this is her swansong. How important is this to her? Personally in terms of the legacy that she leaves given that she's the EU president for this term. Yes, or no way. This is fortunate for the EU in the sense that Angela Merkel's on her way out from German domestic politics, and where the past she needed to be to tweet Catholic because she needed to police Jim voters. She is free of that today, so she can really go in and focus on. What does she want to leave behind? She navigated the Europe more or less through the through the refugee crisis. Now this is the next big crisis she's. She's navigating the the blocks through, and she really does want to make this a success and everything she has done in. In the past few weeks, shows you that this is top of her agenda. And also the fact that other things have fallen off her agenda for example, the US relationship with China is a sign that she really wants to get this over the line, and then she wants to focus making sure that Brexit is not too disruptive I think those are going to be the two key themes that will dominate her presidency, and they will result in greater. EU integration and I think that's what she wants to leave behind so so her heavy wage right now is really an opportune moment. And I. Thank you very much indeed. That was the political consultant Anna Rosenberg. The briefing is brought to you in association with announce. Win The coronavirus pandemic arrived in Europe Spain was among the continent's worst hit countries. Among, the tragedies were acts of solidarity. Liens Spain's Segui must continue. We are with you. Initiative pushed forward payouts struggling small to medium-sized enterprises and postponed premiums for those struggling to foot the bill. Looking to go further, Still Leon Spain contributed two point seven million euro to a joint initiative in the Spanish insurance sector, which helped to create the world's largest life insurance product for medical staff. Remarkable Times call for remarkable measures, and it helps to have the world's largest insurer an asset manager on your side. Intrigued well, you can hear stories like this here on the show every day or read more in the monocle minute every morning. Or you can find out more anytime about building an alliens for life at Alliens DOT com. Back with a briefing on Monocle, twenty four I'm Georgina Godwin Ulta two decades of pressure. One of the world's most famous American football teams. The Washington Redskins is ditching its controversial name as the debate over how the US expresses its his story continues. Andrea Moda explains why the change is finally happening proved today that activism matters and never doesn't always mean never the NFL's Washington redskins are changing the team name and the teams native American logo. It is, or it should have been and some time ago, the greatest, no brainer in the history of rebranding if there ever was the time that it was anything other than thunderously O. Fish to call a football team, the redskins it elapsed around the time the lost stagecoach rattled along the Santa Fe trail. The blundering wrongness of persisting with such a nickname can be assessed via the following hypothetical. Ask yourself how comfortable you would feel even any conversation with a native American person to address them by that epithet. You wouldn't dream of it, and nor should you. The Second Quarter and read. and. I told you it up the Washington. Redskins of the National Football League have gone by that name since nineteen thirty three large scale, grumbling about it has been audible since at least the early nineteen ninety s when native American activists brought a lawsuit, seeking to prevent the name being used as a trademark. So the question posed by this week's announcement by Washington. They will ditch. The nickname is not why, but why now? It is yet another echo off! The protests followed the death on May. Twenty fifth of Minneapolis Man George Floyd in police custody. Popular targets of those huge black lives matter demonstrations were commemorations of the pro slavery, confederate states whose attempted secession from the union in eighteen, sixty one prompted the American civil war. Down came statues and busts of Robert. E Lee Nathan Bedford Forrest and Stonewall Jackson down came the stars and bars flag from NASCAR events, and the state capital of Mississippi, it is not a long leap from expunging delusional heroic representations of the oppression of black people to setting about cartoonish imagery and language which assails the dignity of Native Americans. The redskins organization has clearly never much cared about this before as recently as two thousand and thirteen team owner Dan. Snyder told USA. Today will never change the name. It's that simple never you can use capitals. Dan Snyder probably doesn't really care much about it now. The real reason for the change of heart, and indeed name may be gleaned from a public statement a couple of weeks back from Fedex. The redskins major sponsor pointedly addressed to the team in Washington. It asked that the nickname be dumped. A new report reveals Fedex sent a private letter to the Washington Redskins, saying it will remove all its stadium branding and sign edge unless the football team changes its name at around the same time. appeared to disappear. All Washington Redskins Ghia from its online store. When money talks, few organizations listen as carefully as the NFL. The question now is whether the more American sports teams might be compelled towards similar rethinks Washington in this respect have it kind of easy all, but the most boneheaded of their fans acknowledged that their present nickname has to go elsewhere specifically at the Atlanta Braves and Cleveland Indians in Major League baseball the Kansas City chiefs in the NFL and the Chicago. Blackhawks in the National Hockey League. The picture is a little less clear. The Cleveland. Indians retired the crafts caricature mascot chief Wahoo a couple of seasons back and have indicated that they're also open to changing men name. The Atlanta braves say they keeping his having consulted with native American groups, but may ask their fans to desist from the trademark chopping gesture intended to evoke the Tomahawk the Kansas City chiefs current super bowl champions. Are Head Stadium and whose mascot is a Pinto horse called warpaint seemed to be hoping. Everyone will just leave them alone and the blackhawks say they're sticking with their name as it honors. If indirectly Blackhawk, the great warrior of the Sauk. The team's first owner Frederic McLaughlin spent wildeboer one with the US. Army's eighty-sixth infantry division who also styled themselves the blackhawks. And that right? There is the defense often offered by teams who employ native American iconography that is intended as a compliment. It is indeed the case that nobody ever named their sports club. After something they perceived as weak, will meek or graceless, but in this, as with all instances of appropriation, and indeed with life. In general, there is a key rule. Don't be a jerk about. And American sport does offer one instructive example of how not to be as Washington ponder what to call themselves from he on. The football team of Florida State University are called the seminoles after the local native American tribe, if issue has also engaged in decades, long dialogue with the actual seminoles aimed at ensuring the football team, not taking liberties, various mascots, Regalia and insignia have been adopted adapted or binned in accordance with the seminoles preferences. Amid the recent controversy, the seminole tribe has reiterated that as they see it. They and their namesake's on the Gridiron of very much on the same team. The monocle twenty four I'm Andrew. And that's at least three nil two hundred Miller, who succeeded in yet again? UNHINGING to shoehorn football story into one of the shows that I'm presenting. You're listening to the briefing. Do Stay tuned. Well tonight we premiere brand new episode of the Urban Star Program all about cities and Michael's very own organism fanatic nick money is on the line to tell us what to expect. Nick. Thanks for joining us now. Perth and I think that's where you come from a house. These plans for enormous infill development. What can you tell us about that? Yeah Hydro China. Am from Perth and a little bit like Andrew I'm going to join Wedge in a football angle here. The former stadium in the city subiakto oval has been fondly Some some plans have been released for the new in Infield Development. That's GONNA. Take Place, so it's twenty five day infield development led by the government special planning arm which. Enables it to circumvent normal planning commissions, which in this case means that it's going to be able to build some enormous new apartment towers. Personally. Unnecessary a fan of them. You know I think often medium density. Five tight stories is a little bit more suitable, but they are going to create. New Homes, which is really really great for a sprawling city Perth and and they sought developments that promote density and walkability, a really important to try and stop the city continually expanding shoe. Let's move on Prague Pragnell and their center for architecture and urban planning. This is a wonderful initiative from them. Yes, so the Center for Architecture and Metropolitan Planning or or camp which in in Prague is sort of hoping to expand the debate around the development of the city beyond necessarily architects will plan or people involved in in CD. Mike and sort of wants to bring the discussion to the broader public and make information about urbanism. I guess more accessible so to do. That launched a new program for the summer. called from city to city, which is a a city, maybe not running for six weeks. It's going to take a viewers in a ten days across the globe to Tokyo Paris. New York as well so it launched last night, and and essentially it's a lecture. Guarded video tour about urban design in a particular city followed then by a film set in that city, so like I said last night was the launch. It was New York There was a tour of Manhattan Straits via video link followed by the film Rainy Day in New York and I think they've got Paris. Paris is up next and they're going to be showing me dotted power so a lot to look forward to that every Wednesday night in Prague. That sounds absolutely fantastic for a quick look at Washington now what's going on there with this temporary street conversion? Yes, so a a lot of I mean we've seen a lot of US cities and August cities across the globe. Introducing temporary. Straight conversion so rights-based traffic line parking lanes turned into pop up bike lanes, alfresco dining for restaurants. For the most part this has been led by City Hall, so they're quite localized, but Washington state has become the first state to implement an endorse a city wide program that makes these timber transformations of both legal and rapid, so it's significant in that roads in a lot of American. Cities is sometimes owned by the city themselves and sometimes owned by the state, which may leads to a little bit of disconnect like you might see temporary Donnie in one part of the straight, and then you'll go. Go to the next block which is no longer owned by the city owned by the state, and there's not temporary dining, so the sort of allows a little bit continuity, and hopefully moving forward know beyond this response to the Pandemic Moi. See some more consistency in US straight so might see bike lanes continued across. I guess for municipal boundaries. Bark lands stolen. City Straits could now be rolled over onto state on Straits A. is there a danger here of the privatization of public space though? I think the the key issue I guess we with temporary or visit. It's it's doesn't have the sort of checks that more permanent installations have, so what we could actually say is rather than say when when a when a restaurant typically applies for alfresco dining. There'd be considerations made to ensure that there was continued wheelchair access that there were still plenty of space for people to see it when they aren't patrons of the restaurant perhaps. The issue here is that because they're less checks and because they're less regulated, we might see. Seen it in London so I. Know What's happening here, too, but we may see sort of restaurants completely take over, but public space completely privatized and I. Guess Make It there, and so that's something that. I guess cities to be clued into it, but also you know when you walk around, perhaps just just think about that, and and whether you want your sidewalks to be a complete out fresco dining area that you're not welcome to unless you're joining. US Now nick the yet nixed. The premiere of the guys live tonight. A my dogs in it. I think switching roles. Am I going to interview you? Stay the question. You've got to pay going on you. You've done some perhaps some populism of. Tell us about watering bowls for dogs in London. silly. It's the Hashtag Doug Drinking Network, and this is a an initiative that I started because it's so difficult to find places for your dogs. Drink round the parks, in London, because of course all the tops the shut off because of corona virus, and it's it's you know you have a thirsty dog got miles to walk under what people are. Is Putting out. Dog Bowls outside their homes particularly on on. Routes to parks, and it's just such a lovely thing, and I'm just really trying to encourage as many people as possible to do this mostly so I'd have to carry heavy water. But yesterday. I took a microphone on my dog. Walk with me. and you can hear the results of that in the later on today. Brilliant. That sounds good I mean all for people taking control and owning this city and. Making the changes, they think they need to say absolutely nick. Thanks very much. Indeed, that was monocle. In Gas Nick Monies, and that's all for this edition of the briefing. It was produced by reese, yelling van and Augustine match. Larry the researchers, Charlie Phil Makoto. Studio manager was nor whole. The briefing is but tomorrow at the same time I'm Georgina God. Goodbye and thank you listening.

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Fifteen women who previously worked for Washington's NFL organization have alleged sexual harassment and verbal abuse by former scouts and members of owner Daniel. Snyder's inner circle. WNBA Commissioner Cathy Engelbert. SAID ATLANTA DREAM CO owner. Kelly Laughlin US senator from Georgia won't be pushed into selling her interest in the team, but the League is aware of other potential owners for the franchise. Say hello to Casper, the sleep company with outrageously comfortable products, such as award, winning mattresses, pillows and bedding go to Casper Dot com now has. To build a dream bed for you. THAT'S CASPER DOT COM for all the latest headlines and information tune into sports on ESPN radio all throughout the day. We're listening to shipping up to Boston because we've been about hype. Songs for Arenas and stadiums Chris. Saying that this song makes him think of the departed every time I'm with you Chris makes me think of Leo makes me think of the score. It was Scorsese right who did the departed? He's he's nodding to me with the authority. Things phenomenal phenomenal we also have been talking about fruit, and it's alternative names. Katie was kind enough during the break to hand out our fruit assignments as we learned that Avocado is also known as an alligator pear Katie. Do you WanNa? Real quick run through what everybody got yeah, and I'd like to also say that. I was fought on a lot of these choices. I was just doing them up. And some people wanted to switch and make trades, and that's not allowed. Okay, Chris. You got red grapes. Roy Coconut. Tony, KIWI! Jin Pineapple I myself. Banana Billy Watermelon so when we get to. To another segment. We need new names for these fruits that we're going to go by like the alligator Pear no-trade Z's. I am guilty of Complain about what I originally got. And as the driver of the show today I took pineapple. That's just how it happens. Sometimes but I would, but I would is one of those do as I say not as I do because I told all yet. All you get what you get and you don't get upset. which is what we tell our kids now when they get mad because they didn't get the fruits next pack that had elsa it only had. But I guess. one of the big stories of people have been talking about over the last sheesh forty, eight six seventy two hours was the story that The Washington. Post dropped on the. Rampant. Culture of sexual harassment within the Washington football franchise will join now on the Shell Pennzoil. Performance Line by will hopson one of the authors of that piece in the Washington Post. Thanks for joining us today we'll. ME. I'd like to know how this got started How did you first find out about what was happening within the Washington Football Franchise for an office? was about two years ago The New York Times. That of an expose about how the skins sales exact had been selling access to cheerleaders as part of their sweep packages. And we were approached by a few women. Said you know it's bigger than just the cheerleaders. It's the whole front office. every woman goes through that that organization deals with this stuff. so for about three months two summers ago. listen I. restart to a bunch of former employees, and we heard a good portion of what's in today's story, but we just couldn't get anyone on a on a record and we couldn't get anything away documentation. so he dropped it and then a few weeks ago. Somebody's women reach back out and one of them. It changed your mind and going on the record and a few other text messages another documents, but put us in a much better position of being able to a out well, when you're talking to all these women. What was the biggest thing that surprised you after going through all your findings, time and time again? the brazenness of a lot of this Is What struck some of the women particularly the two journalists that we quoted. Were harassed by the director porous now. I mean this was. Going on behind closed doors, and then private messages and texts and stuff, but a lot of it was just plain view of other team, please. Other League employees other journalists like these guys. They just apparently didn't. They had no shame about what they were doing, and they didn't really feeder anything the way accusative measures if if the stuff was exposed. It's interesting because that type of behavior often needs an environment where it can thrive right sometimes all it takes his one supervisor to say we are not doing this. This is not the culture. We are creating there a penalty or some type of punishment when that type of stuff comes to light. How far up does this go? I mean I guess it. Kinda depends on how you ask her what you mean by health bar. It I guess I mean as as we make clear. None of these women accused you know team owner. Dan Snyder of harassing them or acting improperly with women where they do blame him for this culture is in the way. He treats the handful of executives that he does talk daily basis. say you know people little. Humiliates them It's it's very much like A. High School Environment and that that they believe that kind of sets the tone for for broader culture in the front office. Well I'm sure your focus, obviously on the peace and getting it out and posted in published but were you able to see kind of build up and everything that was taking place on twitter of people. You know making accusations or alleging what they thought it happened. You know until we actually had the facts. Everybody was waiting for your report to come out to see what it until. Did you get to see any of that kind of build up on twitter on social media over the last couple of days? I was I. was aware and Yeah. I mean candidly when it started Kind of enjoyed it viewed it as a positive because it would just build audience for the story, but particularly yesterday it got way out of hand. and you know a few of these women expressed dismay. That The story was met with. By some folks of Oh. That's it because they were expecting us to have like Dan. Snyder on Jeff epsteins yacht like lines of coke off strippers and You know we. We don't have that story, but we do have this story and they thought it was important. And and that's been, our biggest frustration will hopson, who joins us from the Washington Post on the expose on the culture of sexual harassment within the Washington Football Franchise Front Office. Is that unfortunately now it has been minimized right because it didn't live up to quote unquote expectations by people who were hypothesizing trying to guess what this bombshell could be The League has released a statement and said that they you know are going to do a thorough investigation into these allegations, but. It's hard to paint with a broad brush, right? We obviously have people who have gone on the record in Washington saying that this culture exists, but as women in the sports field. We know that this type of sexism. Elsewhere Oh, this is gonNA sound really simple, but what is the easiest way to start curbing this type of behavior? Is it just more accountability within these offices? I, think that that's definitely start Yeah, I I think it's about I. Think it's I think it's hiring more women. I think it's promoting more women to leadership teams. And I mean these these quote unquote lockable mentalities. They tend to develop in places where it's just a bunch of dudes so so I think diversity is obviously I want one important measure and yet to be clear I. Mean I. I spoke with some women who said add stuff goes on across all sports But many of them say this was a particularly acute issue within the Redskins Organization. What do you make of HR? Department or the current state of what is the REDSKINS HR department. the club contends that it's better than it used to be. I think it's still staff this still one one employee from what I can tell. I'm not trying to disparage her, but she's young and You know it. I'm not entirely certain whether she has the political capital organization to You know discipline like Senior Level Executive Sarah. They someone. Yeah, they they claim the culture is different and You know the global say. We'll Hobson you spoke with so many people I think I. Read Forty in the article. Fifteen women who are willing to go on the record one who is willing to use her name. Where are these women at mentally? It requires an incredible amount of strength to call to task in organization like this behemoth. You know responsible for your your your your financial livelihood Where are they mentally when you spoke to them? About the story just in general, just I guess in general I mean do they feel emboldened I would imagine that. Some of this rehashing is traumatic to to have to relay. But again you were able to speak to the woman I was just curious how they were doing. Yeah I mean for a few of them. It was wasn't emotional. Experience talking about what they what they went through but for many of them I think the process I also do think in the conversations. I've had some of this morning. it was it was Cathartic. 'cause they you know they they got. They wanted this behavior exposed. They wanted this stuff out there. You know one the woman who provided us with text messages in which scout was telling her that. They were debating whether or not her breasts have been enhanced and. Keep. Keep bring your lunch. At Grass you know she I talked to her off and on for two years I should say my colleague listen I've talked to her off and on two years, and only in the last three days agreed to give us those text messages She text me this morning. She's she couldn't be happier with the story. Oh. Good I'm glad to hear. What was it like for you i. mean you worked on this for two years? What what? What did you learn just in general as a male journalist covering a story like this? what I learned. I learned I. Mean just as as a reporter. The the value of not assuming somebody won't talk to you and not assuming somebody won't talk to you on the record nor Prince Yati and ran and Walker. The two female journalists who spoken and in the story. I I called rhiannon completely expecting You know all talk on background and she was. She said Oh no I'm. I'm on record I'M GONNA I'M GONNA connected with Nora and she's talking to. so so yeah, and then obviously you know I knew I. This. Type of culture existed, but I I wasn't aware of the extent of it. Will Hobson of the Washington Post the CO author of the? Bombshell report that came out yesterday from Dream Job to nightmare with detailed more than a dozen women who alleged sexual harassment and verbal abuse by former team employees at the Washington football franchise facility raw will rather thank you so much for joining us today. Appreciate your time, thanks well. Policy from state farm gets you collision coverage and this radio AD. Some state farm gets you coverage of this beloved ninety six. Off. Ebay. Guys. For more coverage isn't state farm dot, com. For businesses around the world. Today isn't a restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change How they were from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit IBKR DOT com slash smart to learn more. ESPN radio is presented by progressive. Insurance small, business protection for more than vehicles with insurance expertise to keep your company moving forward more at progressivecommercial dot com. It's time for some straight. Talk brought to you by straight talk. Wireless Katie before our last segment handed out the assignments for really naming various fruit Katie George Jen. Ladda filling in for Dan and Stugotz here on the Dan Le Batard show on ESPN radio. This was prompted by the idea that. Photo was known as the alligator pear which. Is Katie I feel like we should be bringing back. I would love to be walking down the aisle of my Sunday six, which is the local store here in my state and see alligator pear ninety nine cents. Yeah I wish I could get Avocados for nine hundred. It's more like two fifty for avocado, but it's like one of the most overpriced I'll I just got a lot of looks from the zoom people. avocados are super overpriced I. Don't live in California. Is this. Why is this in Kentucky? They're always brown when I cut him and ninety nine. You went to Washington everything about the. Allegations pair so recap for everybody the assignments you gave out when it comes to our fruit. Okay! Yeah, so Chris Obviously, beautiful crests. He sends me some sportscenter updates that are random to throw in and mix in with our serious sports, and it's because of course. The Dan Lebatardshow STU got so obviously. Early nineteen hundreds Avocados were referred to as alligator parents so high said. What would be a good name for other fruits and so we decided we were going to do this experiment in the break, everybody got fruit and they were supposed to come up with a new name. We're GONNA, vote on it, and that means of course. If we're voting on something, it's GonNa be voted on by the twitter's out there. Put it all. All the twitter poll at Lebatardshow is brought to you by three zero three Tuchel sealant for the ultimate protection in China in no time so Chris. You're given red grapes. Red was important because green grapes something totally different Roy a coconut Tony. You were given Kiwi you like. You jumped at that one, so I feel like there's story behind that Jen Pineapple. I took a banana and billy got watermelon so jen. How do you WanNa do the tune who should go I? Chris should go first Chris. Let's do the order that you justed there. Chris with your red grapes. What is your alternate name? Your pseudonym for the Red Grape? Okay! I'm playing this game very literally. Okay here we avocado was called the alligator pear, an animal that might be similar to like the skin or how you, if you were touching an alligator. That's what you would feel. You're touching Alvarado and then followed by another fruit name though you give me. Redgrave I'm going with. Snake blueberries. To smooth, it's a smooth. Exterior! I disagree I. Think Grapes have a nice run. Feel like if you if you really if you ever held a grape and just. Very gently, there's no sale. It's got a little bit of like almost like it's. Raleigh Great. He's definitely eating the bargain bin Grapes. Katie gets around the. Great, I'M GONNA. Go get a great. You say snake blueberries. Is that what he said? Okay walked away because he's actually. I'm he could've done like liquid raisin or something like I feel like that would have made more okay. Moving on that one's GonNa, we can only vote for four that can go to the twitter poll brought to you by three or three touchdowns sealant. I'm going to say that it's probably shooting that one's going to be a cross off the less Roy. Await your back from the grape excursion. Here I know this is bad for radio, but I'm holding. AGREE UP! I'm like I'm telling you. Like I'm. Nick Right now the coral snake that I'm fit. Nope, it's a great. That's crazy. y'All remember kids totally remember Marrone, your kids and you go to like a made up haunted house and somebody would have a bowl, and you stick your hand in. It was supposed to be eyeballs. And it was always unpeeled grapes. It's because they're smooth like eyeballs. Eyeball blueberries. blueberries. That's your final answer. About baby water balloons. So good. What about liquid raisins or is that too literal? Rated like hydrogen racing. Spot on us what we came up with three better names than what you had a whole commercial break to come up with. Beth debatable. Roy Coconut what you got my man. I'm I'm figuring out I. think that's the best thing for coconut because the Husky. Exterior on it so hustled. Crude is wrong with husk fruit. That's still better than crisis. We're letting the that better than mine. Now we're just. Ready to your skirt, this is just picking on Chris. It's a theme of the show Chris's the idiot I. Get it even though I clearly had a great suggestion. Townie you had Qiwei. Why did you come up with key? We is a green fuzzy football. Can we just say fuzzy? Football Green Fuzzy it has to be green because the inside of a Kiwi is green. Oh. Yeah, he doesn't. He's not adapting. Green Fuzzy football. Okay got it all right. It's locked in Gen Pineapple. Yeah, so the pineapple to me is a spiky by. Like when you go six or seven days without shaving your legs fair. See now on. Like hair because I think that sometimes. Roy. Go on I, mean mine? He's like I'm not touching that. Okay, so what spiky? Is The spiky five. Okay interesting. It looks like a guy. Right Pineapple guy that like. Could you run like who it spiky gluten? Because pineapples are kind of around 'cause my Michael Michael. It's more like a peach. Well you're one of the lucky ones take. On Banana I had banana. What do we think? What do we think? Drummer? Drum roll yellow canoe. Feel. Roy Drum roll that was. On it. A motorboat to me, that's to go along with our the yellow canoe. That was a motorboat. Well look to be fair. Banana could have been taken in a lot of ways. I like my job. I know what the show is about and so I. You know a t shirt was made for me based on my last appearance on this show with some explicit on there from What were we talking about? Ellis yeah exactly so yellow canoe I thought was the safe lane. Okay, billy, you got watermelon. Watermelon so my history, naming fruits so far has been named a lemon yellow orange. Of Green Orange. I was really tempted to name a watermelon a giant green. Orange but I think the name I WANNA go with. Is Round Green. Tiger fruit. I like it around. Why don't know round is necessary. That's the thing is I'm trying to figure out. The the scripture of round or giant was necessary control. I could just go green. Tiger. I? Find a watermelon is not necessarily round so. That's true I like the tiger fruit element of it, though like I take these things very literally, but yes I feel like the outside of a watermelon resembles a tigers hide. I was between tiger, fruit and Zebra fruit, but I think tiger. Tiger fruit and they're actually a tiger fruit. Just out of curiosity I like a real thing. That confusing at your local grocery store would be I think there's a dragon dragon, fruit or something so good thing you didn't pick that. Okay, so here we go. We've got snake blueberries. husk Fruit Green Fuzzy football spiky. Yellow. And round giant Green Tiger fruit or have you? Have you made changes to that? Is it just green tiger fruit at this point? Yeah Great. Green, tiger, okay. We've got to cut to two or not. GonNa make the the final twitter poll. obviously brought to you by three or three touch sealant So who's getting axed? Blueberry definitely makes it what l.? Man I think snake blueberry has to make it just so people can see like how crazy you are. And how stupid of a choice that was! And you can get zero percent. Exactly! Yes, so okay. Maybe, we don't have to eliminating. Maybe we do like a play in. We play in game. Two playing games. Figuring out who. I. Don't hate this idea. I want to dive into it more play tournament that we might see down in the NBA bubble. Okay so again Chris has said red grapes are equivalent to snake blueberries Roy has set. A coconut is husk fruit. Tony said Kiwi is green a Green Fuzzy football? Jen's pineapple is now called spiky thighs. The banana should now be called yellow canoe and bellies. Watermelon should be. Be called the Green Tiger fruit. I think we need to have a plan. This is just too complicated to leave to leave some people out. We gotta have this playing game. We gotTA figure out who is eliminated early on, and we have to do that after the break that has been straight talk wireless, no contract, no compromise more of our creative fruit pseudonyms after this on the Dan Lebatardshow. For businesses around the world. Today isn't a restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change, how they burnt from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit IBM DOT com slash smart to learn more. Guests on the Dan lebatardshow appear via the Shell Pennzoil Performance Line I. Consider myself a guest on this show Jen. Ladda alongside Katie George people have been telling me on twitter that we need to say our names more often, so I'm gonNA. Go a little destiny's child here and it's Jen. Lateral and Katie George. Katie. You guys sportscenter update for us. That I do Real Madrid clenched record extending thirty fourth La League title with one game despair by beating viario to one WNBA Commissioner Cathy Engelbert, said Atlanta Dream Co owner Kelly Laughlin a US senator from Georgia won't be pushed into selling her interest in the team, but that the League is aware of other potential owners for the franchise. These days it's good to be prepared, and that includes your vehicle. That's why advance auto parts has free vehicle, battery, testing and installation with no appointment needed and also curbside pickup on any order advance your auto at advance, auto parts and participating carquest locations see store for details and finally Mike Tyson will fight a shark as part of Shark Week Twenty twenty for all the latest headlines and information tune into sports center on ESPN. Radio all throughout the day. I'm sure Pedo will love that Oh yeah, it'd be on top of that one for sure, but will watch, so there's. No judgment, no judgment We have been giving our pseudonyms for fruit. We will get to that in just a moment, but first we are joined now on the Shell Pennzoil performance line by Emily, Kaplan. ARE ESPN NHL reporter chocolate all hockey for us, emily first and foremost we need to get a ruling on the fruit names. Katie George has been handling this. She is the commissioner of the pseudonym fruit. League. And we would like to know what you think. We are trying to figure out if we need to eliminate two of these, which are the weakest terms as far as the ones that we have here Katie Yeah. We want you to tell us which one you would totally take off the list. Okay, so red grapes should now be called steak blueberries. Coconuts should now be called husk fruit Kiwi. Green Fuzzy football, pineapples spiky thighs. Bananas Yellow Canoe. And Watermelon Green Tiger fruit. Which one emily did you absolutely hate? And you're like? Nut has no place among the rest. Absolutely the right grape one. You can't describe something unique. Why would you want to eat it? Chris. Did you hear Emily Yuppie sliding nodding out zoom window? Now he's throwing a temper. Tantrum. Okay Emily! I appreciate that that's very helpful. This is this is the information we needed emily. Kaplan is handling the our coverage of the NHL which which gets started theoretically within the next couple of weeks. Emily, although there's been a little bit of an update to one of the facilities that the NHL was planning on using for the upcoming restart. What is the latest on that? Chen! This is just so hilarious to me because it really proves that twenty twenty is indeed curse, but can. Process, it is the worst year. It would do this entire process of figuring out. What's two cities? They were going to go to, and they finally determined that they would pick tune Canada because it is the safest. They had the virus under control. They picked Edmonton four year old brand new state of the art arena both players say it's one of the best in the league. If not the best and Toronto and last night there was an incredible storm in Edmonton that roll through, and there's been water damage, and there are some flooding. Flooding in the Entry Way and there's nothing the damage today and they don't think this will affect their possibility that they can start exhibition games on July twenty eighth regains but August I, but it's just the biggest I roll, and it's Hilarious, and maybe God doesn't want this hockey season to get going either well. Hopefully, they're able to take care of that. So so where are we now? Have guys reported back to training camps within their own cities before leaving? What's the setup for them? Actually Getting Edmonton and Toronto to resume play. Katie, what's going on right now is the twenty four teams that are playing this summer. Are All in training camp? They're playing cities now. That's a little bit controversial. Because some of those cities are things, they corona virus spike right now like. Like an Arizona in Vegas but the players wanted this. They said they didn't want to be away from their families for that long, so they want have training camps in their home cities so the league a little bit fragile right now because they're not gonNA bubble environment, but all the guys are supposed to travel to cities on July, twenty six and mentioned exhibition games. We'll begin two days later and if all goes according to plan, and you know that water damage just too bad, we'll get meaningful games on I. Emily Kaplan joining us here on the show. Pennzoil Performance Line Emily. We've talked about the protocol that some of these other sports have had to adhere to as they tried to be as safe as possible with the restarts. Is there been anything that has stood out to you about the way that hockey is handling it something that maybe not a lot of people are aware of. You Know I. Think it's just what I mentioned is the fact that they are playing their training camp right now in each individual city at a time when it's really tenuous to, and and there's no bubble environment. Guys right now are able to go to the rink for factors, but they theoretically can also go to the grocery store, restaurants or bars, or their wives enough ladies to their kids, and you don't quite know who they're interacting with. So unlike a lot of the other leagues hosted their training camps in the bubble like we're seeing in the NBA this was definitely a choice by the NHL, and and it's really fragile right now, if Italy. So when we look at other leaks, right? was made of the relationship Adam silver had with the players in the NBA and his relationship with Chris Paul was President in Bpa, and then you look at the relationship or deteriorating relationship between raw manfred and MLB players and what? Transpired between those two entities. What can you say about the relationship you see between Gary, Batman the NHL and actual players within the league. Katie, it's so wild because it's really good right now and people in hockey like Arctic. You stood that we don't expect it. Gary Bettman the commissioner that had work stoppages three times already in his tenure, but not only did. They agree to a return to place format, but both sides also breach with DB extension for four more years, and in that extension players got. got a huge win for them because they got in writing that if they can figure out an agreement with the IOC NIH IHS, they can return to the Olympics. which is something players feel so passionately about they love representing their countries so the fact that Gary Bettman could go from a guy that was on the verge of locking them out of fourth time now. Creating Labor peace, sending the players back to the Olympics and hopefully awarding Stanley Cup this dumber like things are pretty good between both sized. ANALII this week, the qualifying round games were announced What was your reaction to that information? yeah, no, you know honestly the most exciting thing about it is just the times and the schedule that we're GONNA see. It's GonNa. Be Like me madness. There are three games a day in each of the Huskies, and they're staggered a little bit especially with the two hour time zone, so we can have the having fifteen plus hours of hockey straight and I think that's the most exciting thing for consumer. Anyone like me that has been cooped up in a small area for the last five month with nothing Hawass all day. Emily Kaplan ESPN NHL Reporter, joining us here on the Dan Lebatardshow to break down the hockey season, which is supposed to get going barring any other major storms to affect the arenas within the next couple of weeks. Thank you, emily thankfully, thankfully how we get one. ESPN radio is presented by Progressive Insurance Thirty for thirty podcasts in association with ESPN W presented its latest season heavy metals inside the karoly gymnastics empire. The seven part series tells the story of Bela and Marta Karoly the coaches who brought women's gymnastics in the United States to absolute dominance on the world stage, and also enabled its greatest tragedy. Listen to all seven episodes of heavy metals inside the Karoly gymnastics empire on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast Jen. Ladda Katie George, holding it down for Dan Stugatz. Who are on vacation that heavy metals podcast is pretty awesome. It's pretty bad ass. They did an incredible job with it, so shout out to the. Was Bonnie, Ford and Alice. Elissa Roenick? Where the two women who put it together, so if you haven't gotten a chance to listen to it guys I. Highly recommend it. Katie. You mentioned that there was an update from Washington football franchise. What he got. What Daniel Snyder has now put out an official statement, and this is what he had to say. The behavior described in yesterday's Washington Post article has no place in our franchise or society. This story has strengthened my. My commitment to setting a new culture and standard for our team, a process that began with hiring coach Rivera earlier this year. Beth Wilkinson her firm are empowered to do a full unbiased investigation, and make any an all request recommendations upon completion of her work. We will institute new policies and procedures and strengthen our human resources infrastructure to not only avoid these issues in the future, but most importantly created team coverage is respectful and inclusive vault. I also think it's important to know that there was a Typo and you know jen that. They sat and looked at this for hours and made sure they thought that this was appropriate and covered them and all basis, and there was still a Typo. That's so metaphorical. Isn't it right that people could be involved in that? There would still be this error like there's been this error in judgment in the way that things have been handled. Even though so many people were aware of it, and so many people allowed it to happen it's interesting. Because earlier today I would have said. Said where where is Dan Snyder where is he? Why haven't we heard from him? Right the NFL put out a statement. The article dropped and you knew the article was dropping. Don't tell you didn't know the content of the article like you know the issues you have right. It's like if I have a home inspection. Coming in I. Have An inspector coming in to give us an appraisal on our house. I know where the leaky roof is I, guess I'm hoping that they don't notice where the leaky roof is right for the appraisal, but I know where it is so like. That all of a sudden uncovers the leaky roof I've already got a story for it I've already got my response to it how they didn't have statement ready to go when the Washington Post drop that article last night is crazy to me, but now Dan Snyder is making a statement, so we can't say oh. He's using you know Jay Gruden in the past Bruce Allen in the past now Ron Rivera as a human shield. Now he's making the statement. I'm not one of these people who wants to to give too much credit to the Washington football franchise because they don't. Don't screwed up so many times leading up to this right, they haven't really earned the benefit of the doubt yet, but I think it's a good step, it's a good start to get your name out there to get your face out there and say here's where I stand on this. We're going to try to make this better. It's a page out of the Mark Cuban book. which is what we talked about before. 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He Dan lebatardshow podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card or four percent cashback on dining entertainment, two percent at grocery stores at one percents on all purchases. What's in your wallet? God says been the radio game for a long long time. He began as a producer hungry intern. He recognizes all the wildlife on radio row and somebody just walked by Billy with a flannel shirt that was really over-sized and Stu got shouted. That's an engineer thought them onsite and prince shouted. He's eating dorito course. And ROY shouted is that Clinton Portis behind it. I didn't get to this place. Man. This place is right on my alley. It's amazing and the engine ear. What did he do right after? I said that he started plugging in wires. I mean, that's what they do. They eat Doritos they plug in wires to make sure Clinton Portas can hear everything. Okay. Are the strangest people in the world. Yeah. Radio engineers, sound quality engineers, what is this guy. Doing just standing in our camera shot with his giant tablecloth of a shirt, make sure everything sounds, okay? Okay. Very good eating Doritos. So STAN Van Gundy is with us and we have been remiss. Okay. And I'm sorry standing Gundy is not said anything anywhere on any of ESPN's one million platforms about the Anthony Davis situation. I don't know what he thinks. So let's begin their stand. You saw that happen. And you thought what? Well, a few things I think first of all I think fans and everybody else can be assured that nothing like this will ever happen again with a player publicly requesting a trade that fifty thousand dollar fine on Anthony Davis will only makes twenty three and a half million year, the deterrent value there. So sick so strong. This'll be the last time this happened. So I think you can be assured of that. I it's sort of amazing me the the resentment that's out there by a lot of people both fans and media about this whole issue of the players are controlling where they wanna play in who they wanna play with. And he's forcing his way to LA in the whole thing. And I'm just wondering why it it's so upsetting to people that someone would try to take control of their own careers. I mean, most people do that. But for some reason with players, and I think we know in the NBA that a big part of it is race. But people get very upset about the players controlling this thing. And then I love the the last thing is I just love all the trade talk because people want the super teams, and so the trades they propose like Boston. You would get either Jason Tatum or. Jalen Brown in Marcus smart in a in a pick. That would be great. And then the guy right? Imagine what Boston would have. Yeah. But New Orleans isn't going for that, you know, and that the Lakers might have to throw in Brandon Ingram with with Lonzo ball, and Kyle Kuzma might this guy's one of the players in the league. And then my favorite line from one of the articles is he wrote about some tradenet forget, which one that New Orleans would be well within their rights to ask for player. A and b New Orleans can ask through over the hill. I want to ask for their within their rights. It's almost like people have this idea that New Orleans has an obligation to accommodate Anthony Davis. Look what Anthony Davis did in Rich, Paul? I have no problem with as a matter of fact think it helps the teen in a way because they let them know right away. New Orleans can trade him to anyone they want to trade him to he's got this year and next year. They don't have to limit themselves to anywhere that he wants to go and they're going to make the best deal for themselves. And I personally don't think they'll probably make it by the trade deadline. They increase relaxing yesterday. They should ask for LeBron. Well, you know, what that's where you would start him. I think people talk about Boston you'd start with kyri. And then and then if not basically for Anthony Davis, you if you're going to protect one guy, you basically have to offer up everything else, particularly now at the trade deadline. There's no reason they have to make this trade right now when they open up more possibilities in the summertime Dan mentioned that Anthony Davis fine. He got fined fifty thousand he makes twenty five million. I know stand mentioned that to put that in perspective. That's like a forty someone who makes forty thousand dollars a year getting fined seventy eight dollars, and he makes three hundred ten thousand per game. That's essentially like eight minutes a game or even a quarter. Is there anything to keep LeBron James from just paying that for him in a suitcase full of cash that no one can trace? No, not at all. And look this whole idea that, you know, tampering hasn't gone on forever is crazy. I mean, there's always tampering by league officials by players by everyone it's impossible to stop. I do applaud their efforts to try to keep it where it's not public where teams on just out there campaigning for people. But the tamperings going on the league knows that's going on there. They know there's very little they can do about it. And quite honestly the league if you really got down to it. They like the idea of these super teams in these guys teaming up because it creates great interest around the league. So they're not in any hurry to do anything to stop that stand up. Certain some fans are uncomfortable. Don't like the players have the power control their own. Today of certain at some of them, don't like it. However, I think what's going on here. Especially with the last two guys. Dave isn't quite Leonard is them just quitting on their teeth. Like not playing out the contract and just quitting on their coach quitting on their team and fans don't like that. They just don't like that will that they shouldn't like, but I don't think Anthony Davis has done that when we can wait and see here. But he's hurt right now. They're saying they're expecting back next week. If all of a sudden, this becomes two months. Okay. Then you've got a complaint, but but to this point anyway, Anthony Davis hasn't done that. I don't think he will do that. I don't think that's who he is at all. I think you'll come and play things out and play well and be professional and the entire thing. So I I'm with you. And I'm with the fans if a guy's quitting on his team. Empowering I mean, that's certainly something to rage against. But if it was long as guys fulfilling his contract that he signed in then wants to move on. That's certainly up to him. I it just as always amazed me like people have no problem with coaches moving in bettering themselves. Let alone people in other professions, but win the players want to do it. I mean, even in free agency. Let's face it. Kevin durant? Got crushed by you of also Stu gods? You people just don't like this idea of the players control, and who they're going to play with and where they're gonna play and why shouldn't the players being charges of their own careers. I just don't like the idea of taking the easy path. That's all so Clinton Portis. It's important that you say that for the million times so Clinton Portis says it's true that he used to drink Hennessy before games. Let's let's listen to whoa, JR. Talking about tampering tampering is by an organization. And I'm a league has allowed. The league has essentially said we will let players recruit players, even though the CBI's language does specify players the league doesn't enforce it. What the leak came out and said recently, it was if we think the players doing it on behalf of the organization that it's that it's a campaign, then we'll come in and enforce it with player. That sounds. Yeah. Like, what can they do? I feel like LeBron changed the entire game with that television show standing away that makes people deeply uncomfortable and something I pointed out yesterday, these owners who have gotten rich through any manner of tax loopholes and grey areas and everything else they must be exasperated by specifically this guy and his boys having power, they don't have. Well, that's what I'm saying that that's what up sets people. I think into say there's not a racial component to it would be naive. I mean, LeBron James Anthony Davis. These guys they have a lot of money in it. And LeBron James in particular is extremely smart in how he's gone about using his money and yielding his power and leverage. He's got really smart people around him maverick Carter, who's doing all the TV shows Rich Paul who's I know technically not aligned with LeBron other than being his agent. These are really smart people, and they've realized the power and leverage they have in utilized it effectively. And I don't really see why they should be faulted for that. Let's consider the secret life of the INA. Most nesting doll living. Most of her life in the duck inside the other nesting Dole's. She has plenty of time to think if he could sadly, she has no brain, however, when in a most nesting dole, his gyco not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer. Piteously in most nesting Dollond a lot in life. Donlevatar the praises pouring in via Twitter at lebatardshow. Your interviews would be better. If you knew how to ask a question, hashtag sad makers to guts. 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Have we secured some important. Dallas diamond page, right? A diamond Dallas page could save. Thank you, not only have we secured some video of him refusing to come on the show unless it's face to face with me because he doesn't want any camera between us while we're talking had enough to Atlanta after the show. I mean, I'm going to avoid that face to face at every turn if I can. But also we have secured evidently, our show is going to do double dare. Wow. What information can you hit? It looks like as though this thing's going to happen when double their which is touring across the eastern seaboard as Mark summers. The goat told us earlier in the show. Check out the podcast if you wanna listen to that we're going to Orlando. No. On my looks. So we might be competing and some physical challenges still early on. But this is very very good for us. Here works cited about it will invite a mean down he will embarrass him because we will make content out of it for six months. Can I ask you guys about what CLYDE Simmons said about Mike Ryan's beloved Myles Garrett? Clyde Simmons is the defensive line coach the former defensive line coach for the Cleveland Browns. And he says that Myles Garrett needs to be quote, a little nastier. Now. Usually if STAN Van Gundy tells me that player x needs to be a little bit nastier. I will say come on STAN, that's a nasty person. He's nastier than you've ever been. But CLYDE Simmons knows what nasty was an asked. Yeah. Like, he knows when nasty is. But I don't think Myles Garrett has a nasty problem. His Myles Garrett. Didn't you have like fourteen or fifteen sacks this year? He was a Pro Bowl. I understand what he's saying. Because Myles Garrett is a bit of a different duty bit of a renaissance man old soul. Listen, so older music seems very nice physician thin. Why is it that coaches? I know you don't do this. But why is it the coaches so often don't want the guy who's a thinker? Well, it's not that. I do think though that we got to guard against it. I had this problem as a coach to you or drawn to certain personality types, really intense and in things like that. And a lot of times those guys. You think they're doing a great job because you love their demeanor. And then you look, and they're really not getting anything done in. You have to hold yourself accountable and make sure that what you're focusing on is production. What is it that you want miles? Gary to do is he doing those things if he is the fact this whole coaches love, these vague terms, nastiness and toughness and put your game face on. And I don't even know what half that stuff means. You have to stay focused on production. But he did say it's important to point at Claude Simmons. He is showering him with praise. He saying he's a great player. He's starting to the player. We all thought he was going to be he could be even better than he was this past year. He just needs to be a little bit more aggressive a little nasty, but he's going to be better because he played a year in the league, and he's going to improve because his body and his mind are going to grow and he's going to learn not because he's got a nasty problem. That's just CLYDE applying. What motivated CLYDE miles is not motivated by those? But that schock does that all the time. And that's why the TNT crew is still out here telling you that a jump shot team can't win the title like Barkley wants to do it his way and shack wants to do it his way in their analysis plagued by that. Because shacks still tell him people pound him in the post. Like what what was trying to pound him in the post with drumming any sitting next to us now. There you go. Actually, that's not what we were trying to do. But, but you points, well taken and look the warriors have done pretty well, not pounding and into the post. So. Stan, I know you're baseball fan, and we're gonna make room here for juju Smith Schuster, but it's suspicious. I don't know if it's Boris or suspicious that you've got Bryce Harper and Manny Machado available and nobody wants to spend any money on give me both happening there. It could be both. Right. I mean, it really could be there's definitely some sort of collusion going on. I don't think there's any doubt about that that these owners of have sort of agreed to try to keep these salaries down. But it's also probably smart business. If you look at these long term, you know, multimillion dollars well well beyond multimillion dollar deals, whether it's pool suray rod or those long tenure deals Cabrera alot sings they haven't really worked out well for people. So it can be both collusion in intelligent business. Here is marked to share on that subject. I'm not gonna use the word. Allusion? I do not believe they are colluding in the old school sense. But what they have done. They've all agreed. We're going to analyze these players. We have algorithms. We have all these statisticians that we lock in a room all winter long. And we say what are Harper and Machado worth. And what these guys are saying is they're not worth four hundred million dollars. And that's why you have guys in their agents. Still waiting to the end here techs Libertad. To God's Tom Brady's lying Bila checks lying. BCC donlevatar show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. I love talking to this guy enjoyed his time on highly questionable. Even though I didn't have enough of it. He he's engaging. And he's here to take all of those passes that Tonio Brown doesn't want anymore. But here's what I'm promised promising. You juju an exchange. My guess is you're going to get tired of Antonio Brown questions today. This is what I'm promising. You. I will not ask you. I will not ask you a single in Tonio Brown question as long as you answer. My Mike Tomlin questions, and I promise not to get you in trouble with Mike Tomlin. We just love Mike Tomlin. We don't understand. Why it is? He thinks that you need to cut your eyelids off, and why every damn week do it's about we don't know we're going to get out of the stadium alive. Like, I don't know why why the language has to be so Paul game. It's just a football game. Ju ju and you're the one out there who actually risks his eyelids and not getting out of the stadium alive. Not him. That totally understand. He has coming from. I mean, it's just been it's it's only my second year. And obviously I've been noticing that we have never come out stadiums. You know, sometimes we're coming out alive. You're alive. Alive. But you always afraid that you're not gonna come out at the stadium alive. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean positive within our teammates and stuff like that. And, you know, believe in our coaches, obviously, you know, when he when he says, those are the guys are going out to to put the highlights on the line. But yeah. All right. This is what I'm wondering. I know you're not afraid of von test Bertha, and none of the Steelers are afraid of vont birthing. But have you ever thought to yourself in a private moment as you're headed out for a route maybe going across the middle and Ben throwing the ball little? Hi, this might be the moment that I don't come out of the stadium alive. Because this this is the time that that coach he's been warning us about. Oh, yeah. Most definitely seeing playing. So my head on a civil. He's definitely a guy. Who's always looking ahead. Help me and go on cross middleman. My has on a civil AGA wide open. You know, just no eyelids. Eyes wide open. He's a dirty. Cheater, right. Yeah. Yeah. Man. He's he's one of the players. That's been doing it for a long time, and it's been happening. But yeah, doing what for for a long time the dirtier the cheater. Over thirty. I've talked to you know, I watched this film his tape, and he's been a payer for again, a years all the he's done stuff to the Steelers AB lady on and those guys and his time wants to come who's the guy is it vodka's who's the guy that kind of concerns you the most I don't wanna say scares you the most, but you're most concerned about when you just over the middle just over the middle. It's gotta be him doesn't it? Him. I mean, he has every right to the play dirty, and she and every way so most most likely what I'd like to do before you get into the full brunt of radio row is coach you up on how to avoid the controversies when everyone asks you about the in Tonio Brown situation. Do you have some bullet points? Do you have some talking points on ways to avoid the crap? I mean, obviously, you know, myself, you know, I was thinking that positive way, you know, keep it simple, keep ashore and ma'am. I'm focused on my campaign and how I can better myself. Very good. There you go. That's an excellent I'm focused on my campaign, and how can get better. What's your go to phrase on any lady on bell question that you might get this week? But me man, obviously, I want him on the team. I think the the concentrating on it's going to be amazing. You're going excellent. Your say. Your let's test. How good he is. Here comes the guy who's going to break you over his knee with his question is any part of you mad at Ed Tonio Brown for bailing on the team final weekend. Yes. Yes. That's a good question. Probably me, obviously at the end, you know, a game while I like that very close game, you know, to break your point. But we are we can make it between the payoffs and not I went awry with wherever's in the locker room, and who we got obviously that's a Jewish in. You know, I don't have control that. But yes, it kinda made me feel some type away you June. You are good aren't good. You're gonna have to work on that a little bit though. Because I think he is being my take that and put on a scroll juju says it made me feel some kind of way some kind of way though, he's not saying what kind of made India. What kinda way, but I feel like we could do something with that say what type of way? Here's good. You're not in your second year in the league. What is it that you're promoting today? We're going to give you a wide berth hearsay as much as you like about your product because we're delighted that you were so playful. Yes. With a partnership. You know pizza being brought a NFL, obviously, it's been amazing. Just because you know, who doesn't know pizza a big fan of pizza, and you know, for me to be hearing this amazing things this year being on commercial pizza and all this all season. I think it's amazing that we're we got going on just today. Apposite ROY Moore stuff. Dude, you what's your strategy when eating pizza? Do you eat the crust, or do you judge people that don't you can't trust anybody who does? Stugotz, you catch a body who don't you? The cross you got the cross, and you gotta have ranch and all the other sides that ran sneaky played in ram. What are we doing was ranch or dipping the crust into the ranch? Yeah. All that. I'm a big ranch guy. Yeah. Not just the Crespi Stu got. You can go to even I bite. You can go in the row. The real question is pepperoni cheese. You have to choose between them. Yeah. If you had to pick one other itchy pepperoni. No, I'm actually old school, man. What are you talking to you? Owning. Yeah. Go ahead. On the poll. Please your pizza must have cheese or pepperoni. I think juju is going to be in the minority. What do we think about hot sauce on pizza? I mean, I dunno makes a lot eating eating Pizza Hut. I thought I care about. How about pineapples on as long as it's Pizza Hut? How about bullpen apple ham? You good with that? Ombo heats. It's got sneaky good thin crust to that is very true. Very true doodoo, you're famous for being a big time gamer what's the game that you're playing right now red redemption is that what you're on you so important night. A little bit of everything more so-called duty. Just just because I was gonna call of duty guys beginning since I was a kid do. Yeah. What's the most amount of hours you've ever spent playing a video game in one sitting man, I'll do a like twelve to fourteen hours one time. I was in the I was in high school and I played nonstop down. Really, go out partying anything hang out with friends. It was like games with my life has Pro Bowl receiver juju Smith Schuster recently like in the past few months found himself arguing over a headset while playing call of duty with like a twelve year old kid. I did in high school and those days nowadays, and I play video games people are more. So like going crazy like bands because they noticed my username and all I can questions and stuff like that. And I always posting do you want to have this wrong? Did you go out for Halloween as juju Smith Schuster? Yes. I did. And I went out with a Michael Myers massive passed out candy on a pretty busy street. A bridge, you know, coming onto the street. So and that's and that's what I did. You tell anybody that. It was you how many people did you tell or was it always behind the mass? So I didn't really tell anybody. It was more. So take off the mask, the people's reaction. Obviously, they they knew what who the person was with the jersey. And then their reaction was priceless. Because when I forgot the mass it was actually me, and it was pretty cool where you addicted to video games. Would you say you were addicted? Oh, for sure I mean, still I still play, you know? So there's day. Obviously gonna be playing out tonight. You know after media Roane and all this stuff. You know, this is my time to get away. It's my passion. You can't get out of here. Quick enough to go play video games. Again. You. The single most important fame. The Rams have to do to beat the patriots. What's the single most important fame? The Rams to do to beat the patriots. You gotta be the management. You gotta go up top pretty early. You got a points number early. You know, you have to get the patients from behind, and yes, I'm gonna put around why? All right, tell the people again before you leave here. So you get your money's worth Pizza Hut. What are you doing with pizza? Tell them again. Obviously a pizza disengaging things to share during the season all season for those out. There who pizza brother by some at the tag ni our riposte you shows you some of and. I put the pause on Twitter. If you guys everyone injuries juju did you say you're taking the Rams I'm thinking ju ju don't doing. Listen, listen to me, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't think about it. Don't say I care about you, man. I care about you. Don't do it. All right. It's members. Members of the same trimbe, then what a juju Smith Schuster. I mean, LA Higham. Judy. His misuse takes. The Rams over the patriots day, June twenty seven you're not doing care about you. You got a pair of balk, my friend. Yes. You do. You are the owner of a pair of monta balls jour-jour. Thank you for being with us. We appreciate it, sir. Problem. Keep Jovan right? Keep your eyelids. Open mazal tov donlevatar what's happening outside is the same song has been playing for seventeen hours. All of you are listening to the same damn song. These deejays aren't any good. It's the same song. I know I sound like your grandfather's to gods. Don, I gotta Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun. This is live at our show with a Stu gods on ESPN radio Clinton. We've only got one question for you. Tell us about the Hennessy. You were drinking before games. I think it's the most university of Miami thing ever. Then all all the questions you can access as you want to discuss this show. You not know, Dan. I mean, come on. It's crazy. This do you know, what's crazy is the fact that this is a story that's already been told. What is it breaking news? And big news. All of a sudden, again, this is the story that we've already discussed is that, you know, it seems like it's a problem when you look at a locker room, you look at most of the things people do like, this is so mine, you know, and for me it was simple shot before game night. Simple shot. It was get wasted. It wasn't. I went out and party. It wasn't anything. Like people make this out to be like, oh, this is so unbelievable when you've heard stories of of cocaine use and we smoke in all this other stuff a shot of Hennessy is bigger than all of that. You gotta be kidding me. And it's only big because you said it during Super Bowl before. But now it's Super Bowl. I'm disappointed that it wasn't five or six shots. I mean, I know about the torrent all and all the painkillers what you did was violent. And it hurt a lot. I'm disappointed in you. Frankly. I'm a shamed. To call you a fellow university of Miami guy because you only did one that simple shot of Hennessy before games. Even though what's Clinton came to nobody in the his name. I the. I'm sorry. I interrupted you just make awkward because I make everything out. So again, do you not know, Dan? It was like going in for kiss on the first day in both the L pause. I'm sorry. I just if you prefer we won't talk about the Hennessy, and we will talk instead about how much fun you had in Washington because I don't believe anyone in the history of Washington has had more fun than you had in Washington. Well, you add Hinson it being washed. Then it makes it a much better story. No. I think Washington DC is one of the greatest cities in the US, you know, especially for sports in not having a win organization. Not having a Super Bowl contender doing my time, which I wish I could've taken it organization to Super Bowl, but not not have an opportunity in the amazing fanfare in in love that they show that city, you know, getting the Redskins organization back into prominence given him opportunity to get into the playoffs doesn't get to play offs. You don't even have to get to the Super Bowl, but consistently been any playoffs to get that fan base. Bet rejuvenated and excited about risking football. Would be great. What's the single most important fame? The Rams have to do to beat the patriots. Score points. They have to score touchdowns when they get opportunity. You can't settle for three. You're going to have to score points and you need to be able to establish a running game to keep Brady off the field. If you look at what Tom Brady did to Kansas City in the patriots offense staying on the field. Not allowing chiefs offense to get in rhythm in the first half at all, you know, secondhand she's got going, but you have to go in beat the chiefs. I mean, you have to go and be pets with their game plan. So if the Rams if Costa McVeigh can establish CJ J high girly wants who punch be able to counter nut score quick because we all know two minutes. Brady's gonna score you know, he can score in two minutes. So you have to sustain loan drives convert third downs and keep them off to feel trying to keep them out of rhythm. It's no other way, you're going to beat them. If this turns into a shootout breathing. Respond if the patriots get up early in the game is going to be hard to come back. They're not gonna put themselves in a position to lose a fourteen point. We as we saw the saints do last week. They're not gonna be they're not one of those teams. They know how to play with the Lee in they're going to close that game Clinton. It's always it's always good seeing you thank you for for allowing us to waste your time. And it'll be on the tombstone of this show. And maybe my actual tombstone, Dan. Why did you have to make it awkward? Thank you. Thank you for being with us Clinton. No just one just one day in my invite me to the set, and I don't drink it anymore. More. All right. We'll we'll do a podcast. We'll do a podcast with Clinton Portis and we'll do Hennessy. Thank you, sir. I appreciate hitting. Yes. That's right. All right. No problem that won't be awkward this this investigation. Mike we need to do. An investigation was Sean Payton indeed, wearing a Roger Goodell clown shirt during his press conference underneath underneath his dress shirt. I've concluded the investigation. That's absolutely the Roger Goodell clown shirt get over its.

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Getting quote is easier than ever before afford any minute now we should be having NFL inside an analyst Louis Riddick contributes to I take contributes abuse to get up see him on NFL live definitely see him on Monday night football and account down all of that good stuff so if anybody knows what's going on he does if anybody can provide us an accurate perspective about what's going on he can so. I'm looking forward to talking to him any moment now. Whenever we get him on a line he will be here it eight say espn? It's intimate two three seven seven six a couple of things zero. I may have missed field goal last night blowing the game for the Los Ause Angeles Rams but Aram certainly didn't help themselves either a delay of game penalty right before that can ignore that Everett Britt letting the ball go right through his hand so Thomson could intercept it for the seahawks on the ensuing drown on dry before that that definitely definitely played a role allowing carson run four hundred and eighteen yards or twenty seven carries that didn't help matters. We all know that and Russell Wilson looked like like a star. I mean there's no other way to put it Russell. Wilson Right now is number two to he's number two to patch mahomes fully pianist. We can slice in any way we want to but if you're paying attention as hard to ignore what Russell Wilson is bringing to the table. The Dude is completing. Nearly seventy percent of his passes will actually seventy percent of his passes. He's doing twelve thousand a single interception on the season in the first five games. He's passed over fourteen nine hundred yards. He's got a quarterback rating. I forgot what it was it was it was third tier one twenty six Qbr of eighty he's he's been doing it on the line. Promises Louis Riddick right now was going on big time how you got Russell Wilson is number two in league MVP EPA if I had if I had to vote today second Patrick Mahomes and dammit. I don't even know if that's right your thoughts about what you saw. Last night from him is Seattle's victory over the Los Angeles. It was ramps yeah. I think you're right on track with it simply because the way I'd like to look at 'em be pieces this if you took that particular player off of their football team what kind of tangible effect would it have on their fortunes. Look you take Patrick mahomes off Kansas City. They have a lot of great weapons but I mean they they they become. I don't know maybe eight one team nine one team. You Take Russell Wilson off of Seattle's football team. I don't even know if they're five hundred and the things that he's doing for them. The schedule stuff the stuff that doesn't come within the normal structure of a play call is this it's incredible. It really is is I think sometimes the play calls might be Russell. Drop back and do something Russell's dropback. Just create something. We're going to run down here and it's probably not gonna be the way it's it's supposed to be but you just got to make some stuff happen and he he's he's incredible the way he avoid hits in the pocket he never really takes a big shot down the field when he is running any these scrambling beyond the line of scrimmage and he never changes. He's always the same guy always eternally optimistic always has the right outlook on things always never never talked bad about his teammates never talked bad about it he just he embodies almost everything that you think about when you think of MVP so if that's the the case and look at what you said here not only is that the case but you talked about the likelihood of what Seattle would be without him. What does that say about the team that they have? I mean we look at the Rams Johny defensive side of the ball. There's an donal does keep to leave this. Marcus Peters this brokers and others on the offensive side of the ball. You got girly. You've got golf you've got would did you got cop etc.. Where's what's Seattle is seems to be Russell Wilson or bust yeah? It's it's one of those things. Where were you sit over the past couple of years you start to wonder you know you think man I mean why hasn't Seattle been able to really put together a a more formidable roster roster on on its surface as far as weaponry for for Russell Okay and that's not to take anything away from decay metcalf does not to take anything away from Tyler Lockett? It's not not to take anything away from Doug Baldwin when he was there because Doug Bollinger was one of the best receivers games ever seen so these are. These are good football players but they're not you know they're not They're not brandin cooks. They're not Cooper Cup. They're not Robert was they're not tied growing. They're just not so what Russell is doing in that. That context is just extraordinary especially in an offense an offense that really is philosophically predicated on the run. I believe right now. Seattle is six overall in rush percentage. Meeting percentage plays play calls that are run place. Okay I think the right around forty five forty six percent which is where Pete wants it. That's where they were in their heyday. When when marshawn was you know in true beasts mode and the and the Legion of boom was really going on so Russell? It's not like they're it's not like they really emphasized. Is it downfield complex passing attack so what he the numbers he puts up and the efficiency with which he plays the game outside of normal structure makes what he's doing all the more incredible right now did stem and it's. La and that's the way it's been for the last several years now. San Francisco appears on the come up we're porn star Jimmy himself Jimmy Garoppolo my my my thoughts from You r rather I'm interested in your thoughts on San Francisco and how legit of a team are they. They are one of the undefeated teams in the game right now sure when they traded Jennifer Jimmy Garoppolo I thought given the price they pay to get what I was perceiving the B. Premium talent all be someone who you can only gauge it on you know based off very limited resume. I thought San Fran was getting was making one of the great trades that they ever made misery that organization and I know that sound that sounds that sounds dramatic but I really thought Jimmy would be that good baseball for some of the things I had heard from the people in New England about how high of assuming they thought Jimmy ahead so if you if you say that you think that they're that they're in good shape long-term at quarterback they have three very good pass rushers. They need another young corner. Which is why I thought Jalen Ramsey would be someone that they should target? They have a young wide receiver young group of wide receivers fevers led by Deebo Samuel. I think are going to be very good okay they have one of the best young defensive tackles in the League and deforest Buckner they have some of the best last year linebackers in the NFL inside libraries in particular starting with Quantum Alexander so they've got guys all throughout this roster that are sneak. Not I sit here and say sneaky. They just don't get a lot of pub because they're not really you know at the forefront of the discussion. When we're talking about teams that are that we're talking about as you you know potential super bowl winners but they continue to stack win? Stephen and Jimmy can stay healthy and live up to what I thought was tremendous potential based on what I saw in New England and then in the first couple of games that he played there in his first year there San Francisco's go all of a sudden announced themselves onto the scene where people are going to hell. Did they come. I'm from but they've been kind of slowly building it. They've been slowly building it slowly building and they have a big day the big match up this Monday night against the browns. Although the Brown's haven't really proven anything either to go on Monday night and with these two teams that are both on the come up if they can put a woman on Cleveland People Start taking notice and then once they get into their their divisional schedule schedule and they go ahead and bang heads with the Rams and bang heads with Seattle and you know unstop out Arizona people will take them serious and I think that's what's coming those karate was stephen a ESPN radio ESPN news. Let's transition to the NFC or stay with an NFC. We'll go up north are the giants have a game The Sunday against the Minnesota Vikings and Minnesota Vikings in the NFC north. We heard we heard the news. We heard what Phelan said essentially about kirk cousins we see Stefan eggs wants out. What do you make about what's going on in Minnesota and how can they remedy everything really stuck? They're stuck because they have tied themselves to kirk cousins. Obviously the powers-that-be who make the decisions up there. I'm sure thought it through thoroughly Leeann discussed it thoroughly as to what it would mean to go ahead and give him a fully guaranteed contract and what the what that would mean as far as not not being able to get rid of him designing offense that would suit his needs surrounding him or his skill level rather surrounding him with players that would fit fit the kind of offense that Kirk Thrive in office coordinator would WANNA run Allen down the line so I would assume they thought that through thought that out very thoroughly and that this is something that's come. That's coming along right. Now is not something that they thought was ever going to happen so they're stuck there. I just flat out stuck so now it's going to be up to Mike Zimmer Gary Kubiak who's up WHO's coaching staff as well to figure out what do we do as far as now being able to open up this offense more to where we are getting the return on investment that we made incur cousins utilizing him to the fullest was to most not just relying on Dalvand Cook not having our to our number one and number two wide receiver who he paid all this money to now be ticked off of the fact that they're not being utilized allies they way they were because eventually what that's going to do. Is this GonNa tear at the fabric of the franchise and the next thing you know they're gonNA start. Underperforming people are GonNA start losing jobs salary caps going and get thrown all out all out of whack because you're GONNA be starting to try and move and or cut players were gonNA count against the cap in terms of dead money. That's how. GM's get fired. That's how teams get thrown in the cat purgatory. That's how you wind up drafting at the top of the draft because you're having to start all over again. So how do you fix it. You get your heads together and try to emphasize the strength that you have on your offense and roster minimize the weaknesses and they better get that done in a hurry otherwise all those things that I just said are gonNA come to fruition and Minnesota going to be in trouble Louis Riddick. NFL endless extraordinary ESPN right here with Steven and ESPN RADIO ESPN news. How do you feel about Danielle Jones now that you've got to watch him for two games going into his third start of his rookie campaign with giant? You know it's interesting people think because of how much I like doing the Haskins coming out of school I I said I would have taken away and Haskins that I don't like Daniel Jones and I've never said I don't like Daniel Johnson. He is a tremendous athlete who was well schooled by David Cook Cliff at Georgia Georgia at Duke who played with some weapons on the perimeter that weren't nfl caliber weapons and a lot of that kind of suppressed his statistics said he was able to put up and now that he's able to really spread his wings and floors and play with some better players and and continue his education and football as far as being coats. What's at the pro level? He's showing you everything that he really had in terms of upside and it's not shocking. It's shocking. It's a little shocking at how quickly his playing at such a high efficiency level but look. I if I'm the giants right now. I'm feeling good about what what are quarterback has shown us. There's there's no doubt about that and I think they out the rest of the roster around him. Especially on offense aside I mean who's to say what his what is upside could be. I mean he could be one of the best quarterbacks the League based off of his limited experience already. He's shown you that and you'd be you'd be exercising your own agenda and just trying to be you know contrary to say otherwise with the Redskins let me transition them stay within the NFC East division with the Redskins Adam Schefter was on NFL countdown last week reporting how it's not a matter of if but when Jay Gruden is going to be fired as the head coach of the Washington Redskins I got a couple of calls from folks in DC saying it should be as early as this Monday. Daniel Snyder didn't want to let go of him before the Patriots Game But it's a foregone conclusion that he's done. He knows he's done people in the red sock in a redskins organization and the building know that he's done. It's just a matter of time. What do you make about what's going on in the nation's capital and what do you think can be done and other than for me? Louis riddick getting executives physician out the picking the next head coach probably Tomlin from the steelers for crying out loud if they were foolish enough to let him go. What are your thoughts about? What's happening in the nation's capital yeah? It's unfortunately man it. It's history is repeating itself in Washington Ashington as far as there being turmoil already early in the season question marks about the head coach question marks about the front office and the leadership shipped and the people in leadership positions in that part of the football operation and then eventually leading to an organization reset. I mean that that's what's going to happen. We know let Aj's on his way out we know that people in DC from a fan base perspective and neither even people around the league insiders around the League other other front obviously around the league wonder just how long can Bruce Allen hang on. How much can his business influence on that football team override override the fact that from a personnel standpoint he hasn't gotten the job done at all? How much can that continue to carry as much weight with Dan as it has in the past and that's too I bet and 'cause really what's GonNa Happen Right? Now is once again and I don't know when the lights going to necessarily come on but at some point Dan's going to really have to do a thorough old thorough job of finding that one guy and he's always had one guy that really advise him on everything that is the football operation and that one guy has to be rock solid that one guy has to be rock solid in terms of philosophically one. It's going to take in order to really build a stable solid foundation for this football team to where it's not always there's not always cracks forming in the foundation and then recently resetting getting this place every four to five years because really he hasn't found that one guy since he's on the team he hasn't found that one guy that's been able to steer them in the right direction on a consistent in basis it always gets sideways and it usually gets sideways because somehow some way that guy starts starts to philosophically things different than what the head coach sees it. That guy starts to philosophically see things differently in terms of how players are selected elected. How players are utilized that that guy nested then communicates that to Dan Dan gets angry with the coach starts aside with certain players player start to go past the coach? Oh today Dan into that guy who's advising him and as you can see it just becomes a convoluted mess and what happens is. The play starts to rot. The play starts to the culture starts is to just absolutely deteriorate they start losing games player star quitting Claire Start Looking at the scoreboard fan stopped showing up span star bringing signs games that are disparaging and disrespectful to Dan and the redskins and everything else and then we have the situation that we have right now they become they become the lead story in the news cycle in a negative way and in January people get fired. They have to hire someone else. They sell the same. Bs Hope to the fan base and all season when they start the whole cycle all over again so how does he stop that cycle from happening. That's been happening for the past twenty years that one guy that's sitting next to him on his plane in his private car on his boat on in his in his suite in his office wherever he keeps his offices now he he has to get that decision right even more so than he has to write the decision as to WHO's going to be the next head coach. 'cause that's where it goes wrong with him. I can tell you this from experience having been there. That's where it goes wrong. Gotcha Louis Riddick right here was a ESPN radio ESPN news one more quick question before it into a rapid fire. These games ratify this. This is from you before I do that. Jalen Ramsey real quick off the Jacksonville Jaguars Shad Khan owner to be specific doing the right thing by holding onto him saying we're not moving even though it's clear he doesn't want to be I think they are at this point because I think Mr Khan believes he can. Maybe you know fix the relationship chip and that's really what it's all about at this point and he he understands how valuable Jalen is to his football team and he doesn't want to let go of someone like that. He just doesn't Nisa Guy who's WHO's a unique unique unique player and he you don't WanNa let go players over relationship issues especially if you think you can fix them and I think he's trying to put brakes on all that and put a halt to all that stuff and say hey look you know what are eagles are getting in the way here. Beagles are getting in the way because we we're about the loser premium Liam Young player and that's that's not something we want to be in the business doing so. I'm hoping he can fix it. I really am and that's that's not me trying to be pro right pro management. I just think that's the smart thing to do all right before I let you get on Outta here ten second answer to Egypt these questions Carolina versus Jacksonville who you know what kind of like what Kyle doing right now I'm going to go with Carolina. Cincinnati versus Arizona both winless man. That's that's a sorry game right there. Oh Man I'm Gonna I'M GONNA I'm GonNa go with the bengals Houston versus Atlanta the one in three Atlanta Falcons which makes no sense to me. He's EDLUND Atlanta underachieved in a big big way. I you know I love. I love the Shawn Watson Magic and I'll go. I'LL GO WITH HOUSTON IN NEW ORLEANS HOSTING TAMPA BAY yeah. That's GonNa be a close one because I think Tampa Bay is is about the surprise some people and slap some people. Go ahead so to speak but I'M GONNA go. I'm still GONNA go with the saints so that I really do think they've coaching in New Orleans and that defense is GonNa make the difference different giants hosting the Minnesota Vikings troubled Minnesota Vikings. Yeah tell me about it. You know what I wouldn't be surprised the giant step up and pull the upset. I'll go giants their Oakland versus Khalil Mack and the Chicago bears in London. The Aclu Ain't GonNa let them lose that game Chicago jets of visiting Philadelphia in cost in your Carson Wentz Yeah Carson about to have his breakout geico theme of the year. You're going to pass for over three fifty probably knocking on the door four hundred three touchdowns. I think Philly wins that Game Big Pittsburgh Hosting Baltimore Base Roussel Mason Rudolph Look Nice last week. You know what in Pittsburgh I think the defense may have turned around Devon Bush look really good Monday night. Secondary looks better than Pittsburgh me rattle off a few winter. I'm GonNa go with Pittsburgh Tennessee hosting the three and one Buffalo Flo Bills Wow Tennessee's another one of those teams that goes up and down up and down markets hot one week. He's not he's not next but out in Tennessee. I'm going to go with I'll go with the titans. Colt McCoy is starting but the Washington Redskins have the New England patriots coming to town. I know a friend sounds like a trick a question to ask the wrap. That'd be the Patriots charges hosting the Denver broncos. I'm GONNA go chargers. Their Denver Denver's so disappointingly according to how Vic Fangio and four I know it's crazy it really is it's got some good players out there and they got some good not only good players are some good people out there and that's too bad that they're they hit the skids like this and Bradley Chubb Getting hurt his kills me but the chargers the three in one green bay the packers led by Arron Rogers visiting the three in one Dallas cowboys yeah. I'M GONNA go to Dallas because I think here's the thing saying Dallas can run the football thousand stop. The run practice can't do either. I think this is one of those games that that really does announce that hey all you people who wanna see who really just think of a gay man drama show you. I'm a little bit more than that Sunday night football Jacoby perset set and the Indianapolis Colts visit the Kansas City chiefs best people were picking the colts upset right here and I'm a big Joe Jacobi percent fan but this is one of them. Games pam homes comes back after being held without a touchdown last week in Detroit and I think they they like they light Indianapolis up pretty good Monday night. The Cleveland Browns Odell Beckham Junior Baker Mayfield visit the San Francisco Forty niners. Go San Fran out there. I I think you know I think Richard Sherman. He's one of those people who's in things that you know and rightfully so that people aren't giving them enough credit people giving Tampa Bay a lot of credit but no one would give Sanford credit for beaten Tampa Bay. I think San Fran wins that game. We have to really start talking about are the forty niners legit. I appreciate your buddy. Thanks we'll talk next week one Louis Riddick Radio Stephen. ESPN RADIO ESPN news in at eight say ESPN. That's three seven seven six. You listen live Stephen. ESPN BEING RADIO ESPN news back with your calls a more minute. This place look haunted. Don't think so what about those two creepy girls com stay with US truly pregnant Sammy Misdemeanor Guide Great Service with Kako. You get twenty four sending access to agents. Thank you creepy. Girls Your sleep in the car. Now geigo weeds which today hey for twenty four seven access to licensed agents you'll seem to the Stephen a Smith Show podcast evening Smith show. ESPN radio the SPN is being brought to you by new Shell v Power Nitro plus premium gasoline now at four levels of defense against gunk wear corrosion and friction back to the phones we go it eight say espn. It's edited seven to nine three seven seven six it is the Stephen a Smith show. ESPN RADIO ESPN news. Let's get right to it. Let's go to Jason you live with Steven Steven. Thanks for having me on go ahead. I WANNA say first off. I think you should apologise to your boy. Mike Greenberg or Mike Greenberg and your boy Louis Riddick you know not not not many people can pull off the casual Adolf Friday. Look like you cancer pulling it off in it was at the shirts extra unbuttoned stuff like they were trying to audition for chip in days. Ah brought it up. We'll go ahead all right so two points real quick. I just wanted to say honestly I believe Russell Wilson's should be up there with names like Aaron Rodgers and and Patrick Mahomes is one of the best growers in football right now what he did last night was unbelievable unlike anything that's sort of lock it in the corner and that first quarter was was something beautiful second point. I think more importantly I know I heard you guys. I'm I take about debating about how if La La with lucky or not I think one of the bigger points is there the number one their their lack of run game that they've not only show last night for the past few games todd Gurley has yet to have a hunter yard game. The only ran for fifty five yards. I'll be the two touchdowns last night so do you think that if that continues not only their lack of run on game but their inability to stop the run the play calling of John Shatner Day sorry and now I listen I listen. I think their problem is you know obviously the offensive line is it considered having a great reputation. They're going to have to run block and let Todd Gurley loose and and I think long as they do that the rams defense despite the fifty five points they gave up to Tampa is the kind of defense that bends a lot and won't necessarily break all the time some afternoon some Sundays they will show up they will show up and they will get the job done but your offense has to be more consistent. Tog early is a stud without him then entirely different different team appreciate the call. Oh thank you John you lava Steve and they were subject. Hey Steven I I wanNA commend you on a call that you had last week with a guy that call all up complaining about Dak Prescott in the contract and and you not letting him off the hook and asking him the question. Why did he not call up when the other quarterbacks happen to have been white and you didn't say that which was brilliant on your part but and wouldn't let him off the hook it was obvious why he didn't recall those quarterbacks right but but here's my here's my point and we talked about this briefly couple of weeks ago the problem with the NCAA and this whole California thing extending into other other states and the final minute and stable swooping going to make it a national rule for the NCAA the problem? Is You know this affects other college athletes not only in the other sports other than the big too but also the kids that goes to let's say Fordham on a Division One basketball scholarship. Those schools are not gonna be able to afford to be division one anymore. There's only going to be a handful of division. One schools and everybody else will be something while you sit at the. Why do you say that the because they won't be able to afford that the Davidson won't get the Steph curry they that's a bad example but but but but the whole whole point is one could argue? That's the case now and that's been the case for many years but it's not how many pros come out of Saint Joe's not too many. That's what I'm that's my point but they do them back to Galloway you. Could you could give me Jim in Nelson's Allante West. You could give me a handful of guys. The bottom line is for the most part the reality is because individual talent scouts on the NBA level beyond they're gonNA find those guys no matter where they're playing but in terms of powerhouse teams joining big conferences big money programs etc.. That's that's already been happening for years. That's a fact you have to understand how schools make money they make an athletic program if they advance if they win the a ten they win the patiently right and they win a game around the NCAA they make money from that so in other words I cover sports for twenty. Five years usually got to know that well. I'm to the point that I'm trying to make to us that this always been an imbalance what we're talking about. Now is individual marquee walking names having the opportunity to profit off of their likeness. If you're Chris Webber and you have your name on the back of a Jersey being sold on MMA campus Michigan during the Fab five era and how come so violation of school gives you a Jersey but other people can walk in there and get jerseys anytime they want to understand that it's while it's wrong you're right. It's raw so what I'm saying. So what I'm talking about when I'm talking about is as long as the school doesn't doesn't have to come out of pocket to pay players then you're talking about Marquis guys being able to profit off their own lightness. Not a reality is to elevate your profile. You might go to those big time programs for the television exposure and things of that nature but you were doing it anyway so the only thing that's changed here is that because the individual player could potentially find a way to market himself and a profit of his own lightness. That's less money than advertisers and sponsors might feel the need to throw into the coffers of universities because instead they now allowed to give it to the individual and even then we only talk about a handful of individuals so what's the problem I I well. I agree I just I I worry about the other side of this where the Lower Division One conferences will not let me let me let me say this to you and fairness. I I can respect your concern. Here's my problem. My problem is this and I'm not trying to sit up there and say that you're just oblivious or you don't care about the welfare and wellbeing of those student athletes that have been exploited. How can we never have those concerns for the institutions? How come nobody had these concerns when the institutions were out there exploiting these guys and getting all the stuff that they got off the backs of these individuals that generated this money? How is it that the two revenue generating sports? It's is basketball and football primarily African American participants by the way and everybody suddenly concerned because a few of them would have the opportunity your profit off of their own name and lightness but universities institutions and excetera that clearly are run by White Folks Kasit up there and get all the money that if they can and all the all the advantages perks that they could get off the backs of these guys that nobody has any concerns. Why is that I I completely agree with you and I'm? I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying I have a concern about the other side which also is can can be African American's wealth. I taught to that would be if you've been taking advantage of somebody for years. Why should anybody be concerned about what may may harm you? You've been unharmed. Everybody else I if somebody's a bully and they've been beaten up people you know for years and then Oh my goodness they were about to get into fight with somebody. That's GONNA kick their ass. Are you concerned about that bully. There's been beaten up people falling all the time I get it. I get it I just I like healthcare. There's no there's no answer. We have to take it. Piece says no perfect answer but there is an answer and sometimes the victims goes to spoil. Sometimes Tom Things have to happen too somewhat even the scales his I'll take it on a serious level for you just a second job before we get on Outta here. It's just like affirmative of action on its face of course no one should even come close to having an unfair advantage of course somebody should be given a hand. We should always have of equality and everybody should have the freedom to compete on an equal even playing sale. Nobody would disagree with that. The problem is from an historical stoorikhel perspective other folks other than black folks have had an upper hand systemically and beyond spanning decades if not centuries and so in an effort to try to make up for the lead that obviously you gave yourself for so many years something the thing was was implemented from a policy perspective to address that concern and there are people that will come along thereafter saying it ain't right right it ain't right but the stomach emily looking at this country any advantages there people have for how long they have had it. How did that happen? There was nothing about that that was fair but ultimately he demanded that something transpire to flip the scales to some degree so you could address the issue of inequality that is one one hundred percent true. I've I've got to think about what you've said and I agree with you. I I again. It's just a concern that we need to respect it and appreciate it and you're not you're not wrong. I want to be very very clear. You're not wrong to sit up there and say there's a legitimate concern coming from the other side. The problem is is is legitimate is that concern is they have been the one exercising unfairness and inequality to their advantage and now that something is not today advantage day in the ought roll. We'll let me get my car. Let me get my tissue instead of tier for them. Who gives a damn what they feel after all on their practices they've engaged in all of these US ears appreciate the call eight say espn? It's edited seven to nine three seven seven six back with your calls to close out the show in a minute. Don't touch the Dow. It's Stephen a Radio Serbian news. This is the Steven A. Smith Show podcast. Stephen Drops move lyrics. I said he eight straight. You know what I'm saying. They know has stepping were. I'm ready tune in for College Football Action Tomorrow's the Ohio state hosts Michigan State presented by Dr Pepper Coverage begins at six thirty pm eastern on ESPN radio and the and the ESPN APP back to the the phone to go before we get on Outta here Donald Jilava Stephen Go ahead go ahead. I listened to Colin cowherd. They talking all kinds the trash out the bad man and I wanted to know if now that he has a decent defense which you haven't asked for a long time and even even though it is coach every Roger Does Not make a strong playoff push to super bowl appearance this year or next year does that tarnish his greatness or anything like that could potentially happen if they if their defense holds up to snuff no question about it. I think the thing that you gotTa Monitor and keep your I on is him adjusted a rookie head coach and and the person now that they have available right now Devante Adam seems to be their only weapon scant Ling Toronto Ronald Allison and all of these guys. What are they going to bring to the table? That's a huge question mark but there is no question it of Green Bay's defense hold up to snuff over the next two years and you you don't get anything from Amer Raja's that could certainly tarnish him. No doubt about it appreciate the call Zakia Lava Stephen. They real quick go thanksgiving afternoon. Thank you ran man. I'm tired of the NFL making all these horrible rules that nobody understands like asthma I think last night I watched my rams get robbed of a first down when you know. Aj He goes up there and rarely puts his shoulder on Russell Wilson but in in the first half debut in comedy jumps on my boy Jared Boston neck and no call was made. You don't even you don't even need to make it more complicated located what it is that was not a rough in the pass a penalty on clay matthews that is bogus. It should never been called. It was an egregious miss it. It was agreed on a call against Clay Matthews by the referees there it was horrible. There's no reason with the show a below the neck there's no reason why he should have been called that foul absolutely not and I agree hundred percent hundred percent. My question is when does the NFL going to say hey look we all these replay officials the New York one guy radios down and goes. Hey pick up the flag. You made a mistake third down four hundred. I can't answer that question. I appreciate the call. Thank thank you so much Mike. You got thirty seconds go. Oh Yeah I think I have a solution to the problem is sports. You take the bottom five teams or wherever you want to set the fifth worst record actually get the first pick the fourth the second pick someone so forth it actually forces front manage front office management to put a semi decent product on the field and the players have to compete to actually win more games in the guy ahead of them got to think about that. I'm not sure about that idea but I'll give it some thought maybe when we we have more time to get into it we can discuss it but the bottom line. Is this why you think about the teams that tank that means they stink while waste time thinking about them. We got so many quality the teams to look forward to that's the way I look at it. I appreciate the call. Thank you so much. I'm looking forward to this. Louis Sunday's games can't wait to see Green Bay against Dallas of course keep my is on that interested in Minnesota and the giants as well and I'm GonNa Watch Carson Wentz

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OBI Listener Questions: Wester(man)ly winds, receiver battles and trade options

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OBI Listener Questions: Wester(man)ly winds, receiver battles and trade options

"Hey, everyone. It's the listener question episode of the orange and black insider Bengals podcasts were starting to make these a little bit more frequent and a little bit more part of our regular rotation. I'm happy to be with you. I'm Anthony Costanza with Yorkshire black insider Bengals podcast. My co host, John barren is also here. John, I know you've been doing a you've been experiencing a little bit of troubles. I should say troubles annoyances it sounded like earlier since we last spoke. So I hope you're doing okay. I hope you're getting through the rest of the weekend. I'm sure you're looking forward to the weekend. Correct. Because I will problems can be solved by drink in my hand. Yeah. You are you're the drink in your hand portion is something that you are ahead of me on because you're three hours ahead. So I got I got a little bit longer to go on that front, but I've o'clock somewhere. That I right. That's right. I'm I'm very close to adopting that mantra right now. But let's, let's get through these questions. I for those who are just joining us, maybe for the first time or maybe you're nudist jungle, or anything like that you can leave your questions. If you're joining us air in the common thread it since he jungled dot com. You can leave them in the live YouTube chat in that we have going for this video stream, you can also hit us via call or text nine four nine five four to six two four one are our Twitter line at Bengals OB is open. If you wanna try and shoot a question there, and we'll try and get to as many as we can as we is because this show here, but let's we've already had a couple sent our way. Let's, let's start with an Email that we got from Thomas. He, he writes, I thank you for the job you do with the site in the podcast. Thank you Thomas pre sheets. You. You listening reading the, the site and of course, Jon where would this listener question segment be without the question, sort of revolving around the Joan Williams injury? So Thomas writes, the Redskins have a disgruntled let starting left tackle, Trent Williams if the Bengals think they could make some real noise this year. Could you see them making a move to get him, of course, Williams wants a new contract, and with green avoids extensions needing to get done? Things could be tricky with him being one of the best league. He's going to commit command. Some serious cash as well. So I don't think there's been much movement on the Trent Williams factor with the Redskins and they may be in a state of transition themselves given their, their quarterback situation is very fluid at the moment. So obviously try really good play right? Like, yeah. I there's no doubt that Washington once if they're going to rule out doing. Haskins near one is no doubt that they won there. And from what we heard, it's that, you know, wimps doesn't like how the medical staff handled his injury, just all of the things that go along with being disgruntled with the Washington Redskins organization which he's not the first person who is delve. Injury has said said these things about on. But I don't do the Bengals doing that at all. It's very rather. They deal takes your players if do. So it's usually you know, a player that is really the tail end of their career or can be had for cheaper priced, obviously even before Williams gets contract since he's still Headley gets the cab of a moment's in pay as one of the best tackles in the league deservedly so easily the best left tags league. He's healthy should they do it. I definitely they should conserve because if even beyond like, you know he's gonna want an extension like the Bengals the problems at off to tackle arsov with just John Williams right now because is. Necessarily long-term sluiced tackling Bobby heart should be considered any type of short or long term solution at also, if you, if you have at least a feature with Trump links tackles journalists another tackles Ed makes going from liability to a complete acid in one of the best tackle duels, in the league, if Louis becomes tackle that one too. So the, the obvious you is what competition give up for him. And what events you pay him to keep him on term in that something that definitely would deter them from doing something like this for one year rental? I don't see them offering anything more than like fifth round pick. And I think gonna take a little bit more than the fifth round pick right now to acquire maybe further in the off seasons begins preseason wonder will weren't desperate. Maybe the Price Little more reasonable. But right now, I don't see them doing anything remotely close to that. I think that's definitely for something for tenants allow more aggressive in their nature. Right. In my thing is this. I mean this there is it's a realistic scenario that is brought up to us by Thomas, but there is a little bit of. Element of maybe being a bit of Madden franchise mode, with, with a move like this. But. I look the Bengals have been telling us all off season that. They think that their close. They think that the coaching changes and increased health. And then this new rookie class, they think all of those factors coming in here are going to make this team competitive allot of the players in the building, currently or saying that they think they're gonna make the playoffs this year. If you really think so, you think you're close, why not make a move like this. I mean you have the cap space in, in granted you may not have the cap space for boy, green and Trent Williams. If you're gonna do Trent Williams long-term, but you have the cap space your recent draft classes, have not been that great. So you haven't been really maximizing your draft capital that you've had especially at the top of the draft because of injuries misses all that kind of stuff why not? I mean if you really do think you're, you're that close, and you really are serious about winning the Joan Williams loss is a big blow. And that's your starting left tackle, one of the most important positions on football team. If you can. Get another guy that's starting caliber guy do it, and they have the capital, they have the resources. They have the cap space to do a lot of things still get creative and extend a lot of these guys. I don't see. Why wouldn't do it other than the fact that you don't want to spend the money you don't wanna spend the draft capital in that's, that's usually what it comes down to for the Bengals to see that happening. No, the only the only way I could see Trent Williams thing happening in Cincinnati trade or anything like that is if you know, the red scare he did that relationship between he and the Redskins gets worse and worse. And then it then it becomes kind of bargain bin time for teams out there in the Bengals may come knocking there, but I mean, it, it makes a lot of sense. I just don't see it happening. I'm sure you agree with that, too. John. Right. Just record. It comes down to like, all three or just keeping the receivers. Nilsson's with blunt, triples, Bruce here. But I think might be in that camp because trillions again, top-five tack and a cost differences will be about the same depending on which receiver that Oba I think I would probably lean towards adding Williams, taking one of the receivers than just keeping both receivers. But again, I don't think that's going to happen in a we'll know the launch impacts of looms indirect moments. So all that situation is very, very cloudy right now, in the last thing, the Bengals will do is enter cloudy injury tackle situation, on their hands after what happened with John lanes cleared you there. Yeah. An and if we know anything about Mike Brown he likes to pay those receivers done it a lot in the past yet and you know he likes the skill position guys. Not, not so much pain. I mean he's paid tackles in, in the past very well, also. But you know, he likes paying those receivers let's move on. Good question. Thanks for the compliment. Thomas hit us up again. Sometime soon. This was an interesting one and. I unfortunately it, it is a little negative, but I think it's kind of a funny, one it say, oh boy, the life of a Bengal fan type of question, and it was a tweet from Bryan Stott who Brian Scott. I thought it was pretty funny. The Brian Scott's avatars, Michael Stott of the office. So I don't know if he's trying to say related to Michael, or whatever, and Michael, Scott made a an appearance on our last episode of the podcast. So hope you enjoyed his little soundbite that he provided us. But name a moment that made you question, your bangel fandom, and then Brian says for me it's passing on Stephen Jackson. Marvin's return in twenty twenty eleven losing TJ gates. I think that one was twenty twelve right. The chargers lost the fumble. I'm assuming he's, he's saying hill, a Jimmy hill fumble marvins, return twenty sixteen and low balling wit those are some of the ones there, your, your thoughts, or indoor, if you have someone or some thing that sticks out Rigo, that, that when really. Stuck with me emission to Martin returns in the one for me personally was the one that he didn't mention. Twenty seventeen when he was brought back for to your extension after going seven nine like I was just literally on the verge this team doesn't care. And I've said that a lot in the past like before them. But at that point, I just realized Mike Brown just does not care. He's gonna do whatever's easiest ram is gonna do whatever gets the minimum amount of acceptable profits going into his pocket Attilio, former Lewis after at the time going like thirteen. Whatever like a ten games under five hundred in, in two years going nowhere franchises, complete state of staleness, same incompetence problems in both raging draft on the field were happy all the time to your accent. For more loose to me is just basically led. They don't care. And I know that twenty off season they, they put the Sada be more Greg, and everything. But at the end of the day, basically ended the same as also at going into this only nineteen off season there rumblings about again Marvin contemplating quitting in just moving on by himself. Unlike refuse to believe in to us based off a twenty seventeen for like a couple days following the tier extension ounce now seriously, contemplate, like doing what right for since joining more, because I can't for since jungle, if not a Bengals STAN in all just seriously considering Pagnin just being like a general fan. But like that was definitely the artistry think. Yeah. I've fortunately and unfortunately, followed this team little longer than you, John just because I'm older. Definitely not wiser, but I'm older. And there are two that really stick out to me and stick out for a variety of reasons. Not necessarily, you know the, the stick up for a variety of reasons. The first one is the Palmer injury. No five in the wildcard game. You know, luckily, the Bengals had a modicum of success after that, both with Palmer and without, but, you know, there is there was this big build up for a couple of years oath redrafted him. But he saddle your and the Bengals almost made the playoffs at your four. They were kind of competitive he started. They're pretty competitive. He started most of the year, then he got hurt at the end of his first season, you know. No. And then they just they went eight didn't really do much there. And then, of course, two thousand five that's when everybody kind of felt like this was the year. They're gonna do it. They're gonna go far I think most people felt that that team was the team that was going to potentially go to or win the Super Bowl that year with, with a full team healthy. And of course, you know, the whole thing we know the story by now, but I pass he completes a sixty six yard bomb to Chris Henry. And it all just kind of Chris Henry gets hurt on the play. Our Palmer gets on the play really. His career was never really the same after that. I mean he still had a couple of good statistical seasons but never truly the same after that. And then, you know, you kind of try and put things together from there and then really the twenty fifteen wildcard game. And I say that because. Was the the roller coaster of emotions that that took place in that game ended in really such a short period of time. And the fact that the Bengals just the bangles or the football, gods or Mike Brown or whoever you wanna blame. Something with this team knows how to really pull the rug out from under you in such a way that is just so painful. And really, I remember the reactions of myself my brother and people who were watching that game. And I, I kind of said, yeah, this is pretty unhealthy. You know, the anger, the it's just, you know, in, it's something completely out of your control. So those are those are times where you kinda went, yeah. The an in such a heart wrenching way. It's not just you lose you get blown out. It's just these ways where you go while we just, you know, we can't have nice things and you know you kind of I dunno. You kinda kinda makes you question things. And those are those are the really stick out in my mind. There are plenty of others that I'm sure others can point to, but two thousand five wildcard in twenty fifth. Ironically, ten years later the twenty fifth and against the same team. You know the twenty fifteen wildcard name. Those are two really stick out to me, as, as questionable moments of, of fandom here. This is the orange black insider, bangles podcast. He's John, Aaron Anthony Kazan's were doing some listener questions here. We've already got a few. You can try and get yours. To us in the live YouTube chat, that's going on right now with video feed will be here for about another ten or fifteen minutes. I think in, then we, we also have a, a live comments on since he jungle dot com. So leave him there. You can also call or text us nine four nine five four to six two four one. If you are so inclined if you're new to the show or if you're a regular can't join us live. 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And we're the host of the shutdown forecast. Avengers of college football podcast. It says in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what I mean is already split every Tuesday. We talk about everything from cooking. Disasters to pro wrestling, too unfashionable pants Warren, middle school. We also do talk about college football every now and then, like mascot fights announcers, fleeing the early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football, exactly. Seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast app. We did get a question in the comments thread, John, from Jordan ritzy nineteen says, I guess I can ask a question for once or we're talking a little bit. Joan Williams here of Clint bowling is done. And after the Joan Williams injury western has been the starter at left guard bangles dot com. How do you feel he will fare while he's done? Well, in limited snaps they were so limited. And there's got to be a reasons been a backup since drafted in regards to the tackle situation. Who do you think the backups there at the moment? If Glenn or harp get hurt is at Sutherland Dugas, Jordan. If you don't mind, there's a couple of questions in there. I will briefly talk about the western thing, and I'll let you talk about the tackles because you put up a really, really good post on cincy, junk dot com talking about the tackle situation, just kind of for time sake, and everything. But good questions from Jordan. We don't know about Clinton bowling being done. We've heard some rumblings that I think it was via job good. Very a source he had saying that he they say Clint bowling is done certainly hasn't. You know been a good omen that he hasn't practiced at all this, this off season under the new regime, and then the fact that it is new regime. They brought in so many new offense lineman. That's not a great sign for him. But I still maintain that he is one of if not now their best offense lineman when healthy very versatile and just a solid offense of wineman, we've talked about western. Before. So I won't go into too much detail, but I will say this western has been the rumor is that westerman has a poor ability to grasp plays poor of not a good chalkboard player, quote unquote. If you wanna use that phrase, in that my opinion is, you know, there was talk when he was drafted that he was a second or third round talent in the Bengals got him in the fifth round, my opinion, and I have not heard this specifically, but my opinion is that you probably didn't do well in interviews, pre-draft interviews on the plate playbook front on the grasping of plays in concepts. We've heard from sources that basically he his known he has been known to basically missing a sign -ment in practices about fifty percent of the time if not more, and that's why Martin Lewis got frustrated with him. And he was so far down in the depth chart, but like Jordan says. He plays there. Yeah. He's play. He's a gamer right? I mean yeah. He's kind of one of those guys when he gets the game snaps. He does. Okay he plays. Well, so, you know, I I'm okay with him at left guard, especially given the situation, given the Bengals have he's probably the slight better option than John Jerry at this moment in time. But, you know, small sample sizes can trick. You sometimes most ample sizes. Tell you nothing. Sometimes they tell you a lot, and you don't know into a larger sample size. So he still a question Mark. But I think there is talent there. I think it's, it's, it's more mental than physical. And, you know, at some point, you may just wanna throw him to the fire and see what you got to see if he is a long term solution for this team. But that's that on the interior linemen, John, if you wanna. To add to that. Please do, but I definitely wanted to definitely wanted to have you. Chime in on the tackle situ situation since you wrote, a very nice piece on since jungle about that recently. I just wanna say this of Westman back when I back in two sixteen it was Western's first off season. Training camp posted the video like just about a practice rep there and his dad fold me on Twitter. He was like my hundred thirtieth follower at just things really funny. How I haven't seen westerns dad on Twitter at all? But I see Alex rims stepped out on Twitter like a lot just defending him. I feel I feel like if Christian westerns like dad defend him as much as did. He began some actual playing time. But that's beside the point for the tackle situation. I think on Bengals dot com reported that tree hopping was taking back reps at right tackle, which is kind of is interesting because he's played there before in the preseason. So I think he's going to be even more important this year than in years, past more than just a backup on the interior. He might just be the swing tag. We might just be a backup, it all five spots, which definitely means that, you know, his importance is definitely valued for his third or fourth oftens line coach. He's had now in four or five years, and the other I mean, they're going to have three true tackles occas hopping still this garter center on the website so that they'll probably come down to just Nevins the guy the design from Arizona. He just has one year experience can Perkins still the team. He's bigly player. He's been with the team twenty seventeen in your right? Settling in Dugas who, who have tackle size, maybe more you best utilize inside. So at the end of the day, you have like ten guys can best play a guard, but only a couple of guys that claimed tackled. They're going to have a third tackle. I don't know if he's on the roster right now but if he is very good back option at the moment. So I if I'd place bent on one I would go with perkins's because he's the teen longer, but I think that there's nothing really that separates him between Evans Il just come down to does better in camp in preseason. Good question there from Jordan, definitely area of concern tackle that is for the Bengals now. The Joan Williams was heard in the Bengals didn't double dip at the position the draft and nor do they do much in free agency at position. So definitely something to monitor their. Let's, let's go to the live YouTube chat, looking at his linebacker question 'cause I'm looking at which one that question there are on pig Germain Pratt from Dave Lennox. Okay. Go for all right? So Dave says with all the project hype about Devon white denim Bush in the real drop off in talent in the next linebackers. Why should we believe in Pratt? That's a good question because there was talk early on in the draft process house, like a two horse race about who's the best linebacking really the hype for Bush really started around just before the combine. It was Jeff Hobson, who mock Bush to the Bengals I was like, what the hell does like early segment, picket best, and then Bush blue everybody way, the combine and then basically came to horse race again to kinda similar to last year. Roquan Smith in lane Vander action. I don't remember exactly who the next linebacker was taking. But there's a few between a think it was there's a few between Bush, and then eventua-. Practice taking third round. But all in all, you know, pres- not that for off, as an athlete from either a Bush or produce not s Lexa boys, not as explosive as tune. This testing numbers approved it. But in terms of just, you know, second level speed, which is definitely what the Bengals have been lacking. They get everything in that imprint that they would have gotten Bush, and in endeavour, white, as well who just had no chance of driving to the Bengals eleventh of rawal in terms of production. They both they're all three of them were similar in terms of, of sold. Marketshare Pratt has the experience of coverage flares of former safety. So we has that angle on it as well. Look at PF metrics, proud was more highly grade as run-defender than guy like Devon white who had some problems taking on blocks. Obviously, you know, the SEC ACC comparison competition could have been something with that. But I think Pratt was one of the guys that could have very well been drafted before the third round. But just the lack of starting experiences will kind of dropped into where he was now. So he'll get just a very good athlete. Very good tackling run defense. A guy who has at least. Silence. Covered instincts guy who can't develop into three down player. I think you can have more confidence in Germain prac- going into your one than you could with a guy like me, Jefferson is a little bit more Raleigh more younger than what practice practice like fifth year senior who played the senior bowl Jefferson was like third year true junior going into the draft. So I think there was a drop off, but it wasn't as big as maybe big draft media was trying to try to make it as especially with in the state of the linebackers. What they have their Pradesh has a chance to make to make his name for himself in really all just depends on how wealthy jails with, with this new defense. Yeah. We have to remember too, that, that position is. It's a really polarize at a really polarizing time in the NFL. Right. I mean yet, you either have your absolute studs, or you have kinda serviceable guys that are solid to down maybe three down type of guys, I think the Bengals think the Pratt can be three down type of guy because he showed it the ability to rush the quarterback in college, he's showed a knack to get behind the line of scrimmage. He's a very sound tackler. He's played. He's got decent speed. Not outstanding, but decent speed at least in terms of forty are death. She's in comparison to the other Devon's there. But I don't I don't think he's the athlete those two are I don't think he is a three down type of linebacker, but I think he could be a solid to down linebacker. And what he does is he helps areas that have really hurt the Bengals in the past tackling in the past couple of years has been awful at that position. That's why they also kept Preston Brown. They signed. A to contract, so far because he is known as a sound tackler tackling in general for this team has been awful the past two three years at that position. And I think that Pratt brings a sense of stability. So it helps them. Get off the field. Get their defense off the field potentially by you know first contact make the tackle the ball carrier down instead of, you know, guy breaks to three tackles and a two yard play becomes a seven yard play. So I think in that respect, you, gotta you gotta like what Pratt brings to the table. And and you know I don't think he's ever going to be Pro Bowl player. I think if he's healthy again, we say, if he's healthy if he's healthy. But I think if he's healthy he's going to be a pretty decent player for the Bengals for handful of years, if not many years seems to be a really heavy guy to pretty mature. So I think that was one of the things that drew drew him to Zack Taylor vice versa Giuseppe Taylor to him because. Because, you know, there was an emphasis of character and all that stuff. But good, good question there from Dave, we also got one I don't I don't know. I don't know what exactly this, this question is going to from Giovanni lane. What about Stanley Morgan out in Tate? I assume that means that's alive, you to jab, by the way, I assume that means the competition there, because that's probably. That's probably going to be the battle for the final spot. I would think or one of if it does come down to that, because you got the, the big three you got Boyd. You've got Rossi got green. You gotta figure. They really like, Eriksson. And then you've got Cody core. You've got Josh Malone got out and Tate, and you've got Stanley Morgan. You are high on Stanley Morgan. I will say this before I let you take the floor on this one, John. What's interesting is we've mentioned this before another show. But Tate Malone been core are all height weight. Speed guys core was really valued for a special teams versatility inability there. That's something Marvin Lewis really liked Marvin Lewis has gone, but his special teams coach remains whereas though there's kind of a lot of moving parts here. It's kind of pick your poison but I think just for the sake of this question. If you're going Tate versus Morgan for a final spot. What do you do there? Yeah. Like mine is one that both. Because I think Cody core is like the opposite of western he might be mazing practice, but as a special teamer heats is not very good. If you actually watch hell uses Gunnar, Halle themes, I've seen more mistakes from coding core than most. Other special teams on the bang on a know what the deals with him on the why Simmons likes and so much, but is fascinating tall. But he hasn't develop into receiver in isn't developed into a solid. Team. So just don't know what the point of keeping him is all taking to exactly what court doesn't special teams. He's not as fast. But, you know, I think there was some comments about Simmons about saying, not every good special teamer has to four five guy thinks overdrawing like four seven, he's highly regarded in that specialty injury, as a contributor there like both Tate in Morgan. I believe have Kabila between much better. Receivers thin coating corking ever be. I think Morgan's literacy right now than Cody Gore's, ever been gonna remember more than what is the breast is no more receiver. He was the first thousand receiver in school history colours like the second third fiddle on this team. And again, he he only got drafted because of those athlete dimensions in that speed in that special teams capability that hasn't translated anything yet. So yes Darren SIMS is still here. But I do think that tales emphasis on going through three receivers almost exclusively depositions going to important in having guys who can come in and play potentially significant snaps as receivers going to be important in. Yes, it wasn't receiver drafted. Salem Oregon, actually address it, though. I've never been tremendously high on tape. But I think his, you know what he can give what is output can be as a receivers specifically in the red zone and what the talented stealing is, I would like to take both had to choose one would probably take Morgan, just because like him more as a complete receiver, but it might penny you might as well just keep both in role with impotently lose. What could be a good sales team included Corp, but he isn't by Nali probably won't be in just no point just holding onto something that just isn't it? Yeah. And I wanna say this. This. This may come down. Also to the combination of, of health. Both current like present and past issues there as well as positional flexibility. Maybe Taylor looks at a guy like out like out in Tate as a, you know, we joked about this. When out Tate was starting to get some hype last year, but maybe a tinker with the idea that he is a flex tight end type of player a simple red zone threat in with the rehab of Tyler, I for the rehab of Mason Shrek these pass catching tight ends. Maybe they have him as kind of that split tight tight end type of player like an I for maybe that's how they use a guy like that he does not have downfield speed. That's not out in Tate's game it. He has a great catching radiate radius. He has good hands and he's got a meant size. So he's almost a tight end type of. You don't wanna get them doing things that they're not used to. But maybe that's a niche where you can find him, especially if health issues continue to hit the Bengals in the tight end area receiver, you know. At the end of the year. The Bengals didn't have we know the issues with Ross in his first two seasons with injuries. They didn't have green and void at the end of the year last year. They need guys at this position. They need talented guys, you know, you don't necessarily need it. Seven deep. But you gotta be able if, if green, who is getting on the downside of his career ends up getting hurt again. God forbid if Boyd ends up getting hurt again. God forbid, I mean you gotta have guys that can step up that you can rely on if Ross doesn't make that year three leap that we all think in hope that he can. I don't know. That's something that, you know, you need to think about let's, let's get outta here on a more positive note. And I guess it's, it's an ego stroke to us here, John, but it's a comment Indy live in the comment thread of on cincy, jungle dot com last podcast someone asked, if there's a silver lining to. Williams injury. The correct answer was a better draft pick. 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In on your short list of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash get up morning it is time to get off the browns who are down as low as you could go after getting planted literally turnovers you can't have drops you have penalties that's I mean that's uh offensively that kind of summed us up you know we The game this was a disaster I think proportion Berkeley Beacon help mistakes you can have I shot herself in the foot too many times now hitting the panic button I think for us it's just we know the problem we know we have to you know be better Monday night football in what was a terrible game but an extraordinary conversation he would go orlovsky Baker Mayfield in the browns take on Jimmy G. hitting the panic button swag who are you Yep I am listened to the revolving door the roller coaster per se last a week ago we talked struggling he's running he's getting hit and the ball is coming up Mayfield what turn it over twice in the first four possessions of this game but here's where the game completely turns a facade built on bad opponents can't he's here the NBA welcomes its biggest rookie stock ever wait until you see what he did in the first two minutes of the uh-huh yeah that's why two sacks two tackles for loss five quarterback heads and a fumble recovery and then just to add insult to injury late in the fourth quarter game is hopelessly we just have to do better and when you play great team you have to eliminate mistakes you just have to listen to I mean the numbers are stark what you just heard Baker Mayfield say he's and getting an intentional grounding on another great pass rush from nick both just had his way with grounds offensive line and then do you recognize that celebration it's both should be caught down in the red zone the ideal ball is low to protect the receiver and the ball won't get tipped up in the air is there a perfect throw no signed by College Shanahan motion the fullback get the defense to flow builds in the cut-back huge eighty-three this guy right here huge eighty three yard run the data breach you're down twenty five points Odell Beckham he's going to have on one hand then is going to have it on the other hand and then it's GonNa wind up on the ground this is the but in the NFL that should be caught ninety nine out of a hundred times said the niners scored touchdown on the ensuing drive and now they're in business final seconds of the half that's Mayfield this Kubota member he played at Ohio state we all can understand we'll explain a little later if you don't meanwhile fourth quarter in twenty three and votes are still bringing the heat pulls Baker Mayfield's not blocking defensive ends one on one with tight ends Baker Mayfield's not dropping some of these passes Baker Mayfield's not asking these tackles the block really good pass rushers on one so he's part of the problem absolutely but to Marcus's point this team and it starts from their coach down this was how much of this is on the quarterback. Listen if we just Baker Mayfield were crazy right marcus just laid out about this team against the Ravens had they found some nick show went off they were able to be multiple offensively now they resort right back to what we thought their issues were before a game and here's the like the what is that entity of this team I number what we're talking about Baker Mayfield what type of quarterback is you guys know record I think Baker Mayfield Tori the game nick post is coming out to the national audience if you single him up last night he was gonna wear out whatever tackle he was against why was he the second pick in the don't you think so first of all this team is the best team in the NFL at beating themselves with turnovers with penalties with drops mistakes you obviously just not a guy to raise that level of play when you bat around Dan I want to I have so many questions but the first I want to ask you is we can see how bad the spurs game all that and more as we get with you from New York right now and as you can see we're jam packed and ready to go we got baseball players. We got hoops to get to this morning but we will start with stop blocking defensive ends with tight ends nick votes was given that sat boats are getting the pressure and just Sherman pick as a result and now Baker Mayfield again that is best well he's involved highly and you're all fits he makes quarterbacks look better than they really are second of all when you start talking about the offensive line Freddie Kitchens I am not a fan of Baker Mayfield I just thought a lot of over hyping Moore's going on when he was coming out in the draft and what people talked about doing last year but you look at this team offensive line that can hold up you gotTa Call Place to protect your offense of laugh the job of the coastal look as much as people railed on Baker in you know I'm I'm I want not real issues all over the place defense got ran through about San Francisco Forty niners couldn't partake because Nick Bosa and the Bagel I don't know your problem because you want to consistently week after week it seems like week after week expose the weakest part of your football team which is what they're all stands for a lot of things but it is a what have you done for me Lately League and as much as I love the browns and Baker eventually lester not gonNA matter anymore eventually it's going to become mark this game seven nothing forty nine and then the San Francisco defense in the person quite merrily of Nick Bozo will take over the game listen I'm going to say until I'm blue in the VOSA was a big part of the reason why last night you look at how good they were both getting the pressure in that forces the interception here by Richard Sherman Sherman having himself a big night they're making again he almost had a little bit of coming up party for the rest of the country this is a very complete football team Richard Sherman let's talk you don't you don't worry about the forty niners we're going to show you San Francisco very first offensive play Matt go and left Matt Rita go along by long speed by Brita really nice tonight it was for the Browns Baker Mayfield eight of twenty two for a hundred yards two picks four sacks Odell Beckham completed a twenty yard pass and had a higher qbr it just a middle of the pack guy right so if he is that what are you going to do to support him and that's pretty kitchens job is to support Baker Mayfield if you haven't fiction in football team in last night they put everybody on notice because of national television how legit they are and then they got their offense going a little bit like this George Kid the intellectual kid but like guy this is a team that was coming off a season when did seven turnovers as a football team they drafted a guy quite and in the second quarter Mayfield's go back to throw in here comes both again yeah I mean we talked about the potential of this defensive line totally changing the face of this organism national people who may have thought you might just be okay a little bit of a break on that it's a long season I'll tell you buying into the forty niners are you buying I wanNA talk about when Baker goes at the podium because it just hit me we know our problem no you don't because you wouldn't be calling games like this talk about Cleveland and what they were GonNa do I get all of that I did all of that but right now Freddie Kitchens is trying to identify how do I best progress to seem to be functional identity on both sides football and it's reliable we were just talking about the browns going we don't know who they are one week good one week bet like this team shocking anybody anymore like we about to be a week six in the NFL you pretty much who you are you finding out a lot about what you're going to be and there's a reality to that what are you doing right now with your play maybe the best news they have is that no one in the division looks ready to run away so they have some time to get it figured out we will come back to the Browns Jeff Oh well one problem is when you got one hundred million dollar receive on the roster at some point he got to be a statement I know people say well Oh dear miss two passes Odell Beckham rose has been great for the Yankees all season long twins had to get out early they had a chance here against Luis Severino unable to get it to go though. Marlene Gonzales here in fact the twin stranded station San Francisco to me is the best team in the fact that they're in that conversation speaks volumes right we're a month into the season but for me San Francisco has teams in the NFC offensive line wise can match up against what we saw to be dominant how many games as he started to this point four G. in quarter browns up a drive going there down fourteen three but they're in the scoring area they have a chance to get right back in the game and back well should be ingredients a fourteen point swing really to your point the last time yesterday star for the Yankees the Yankees played the twins he was seven years old I'm talking about Labor Torres who just like had himself a game eleven runners in scoring position they've gotta feel like so many opportunities absolutely the twins came into this game losing twelve straight against the Yankees postseason and when you have opportunities with the base load Nick Postcard Ohio State Debt I had some scouts tell me he was going to be amazing some some he was gonna be okay he he got injury Jimmy Garoppolo was coming off like give is a reliable identity we just sounds the highest paid guy on this roster may be their liability Garoppolo Sky's the limit I mean I think this team can win a world series that's not a stretch at all and the reason is is that all season long we touched on this yesterday they've been hurt all year they've had injuries in there Russian hold it don't don't try to give credit now don't try to give us credit now just stick if you had US ranked twenty five people's ranked twenty five if you had us going home early if you had is gone three and three and whatever have gone through in it whatever you know what I mean these stick by you work because I want you to sound like an idiot at the end you like that well listen I love sherm obviously I just found out his offensive line we knew Nick Bosa in this defensive line with Armstead and all of the D. Four that they could rush the passer nobody offensive line so what this doesn't get any easier for them right they played a team yesterday that had fifteen days of rest next week they get a team that played last Thursday and they themselves were on a short starting rotation now Luis Severino was back healthy you saw him throwing ninety nine miles an hour now they're lineup is healthy when you have one through nine of the Yankees lineup they can all in about twenty minutes meanwhile let's give some credit words due to the forty niners are FBI our analytics are nerd say they're the best team in the NFC in other last unbeaten in the NFC and boy he has even started one nfl season's worth gain I think he's twelve and two or something like that numbers are pretty good we'll have much more on Monday night football on the rest of your and I felt Ryan Zimmerman the thirty five year old ageless wondered three run shot puts the national up five to one we talked about the Yankees leaning on a twenty two year old how about the clay either the astros or raise with that being said text based on what you saw from the Yankees who dominated the entire series what's their outlook going forward national leaning on the old guys because not only was there an old guy at the back there was an old guy in the bump as well at least by the baseball purposes thirty five year old Max Scherzer had an absolute jet I'll get on base they can all hit home runs hitting doubles this team can score runs at a lot of different ways and I think that's why the Yankees are so dangerous one of the favorites in the Al let's go to the the NFC no the Green Bay packers missing I'll by San Francisco they have the best team in their division right now Seattle's very good as well series now tied they'll play again on Wednesday but I wanna go back to that Zimmerman home run it was obviously huge blew the game open but you saw something that you liked that led up to that what did you see so good any had to be because the nationals bullpen hasn't been good either Max Scherzer was vintage he was throwing ninety five ninety six mixing in that change of that the team that if they get up early they have questions in the bullpen and so in Washington got into the dodgers bullpen they did some damage as you saw here with Ryan's sure as we go but postseason baseball L. let's go yeah we had the twin serving as the BG's as we bring in Mark Teixeira trying to stay alive as the Yankees we're looking for the sweep in fact you won't you won't idiots but you want them to hold their position a whole year like don't don't flip flip flop with us like like if you said we're GonNa make it you said we were some way early on just stick with that so the numbers will tell you they had a lefty on the mound they switched for the righty see Dave Roberts come in here Pedro by as a really good right handed pitcher the week there was no benefit here Cleveland what did he think you know toll you how hard it is to win in this league people think it's hard to win in the NFL and of the favorites in the NFL I'm talking about the nationals and the dodgers a lot of people didn't think this was going to be a big one or good one tight one but it certainly was gained four dodgers aimed these last two weeks and the cowboy defense is also taken a big step back especially Sunday against the packers Aaron Jones ran all over the news the first player in fact against the packers and at the same time Zeke Elliott has seen his volume and efficiency dip during the losing streak averaging just over three yards a carry and under fifty rushing yards thing in Patrick Warburton and relying on analytics not going with their gut and they did the opposite and it certainly was to their benefit very quickly edge game five who's getting it national dodgers at the cowboys Zeke Elliott is not the focus at his office that's number one we can get away from it and talk about we've been enamored with that contract situation where would market I say bringing the left yesterday we'll Cabrera's a switch hitter he could've come on but you know what they stuck with their thirty five year old veteran I love that the nationals had the confident in Ryan's ever to rush for four touchdowns against the cowboys so were they paper tigers they breezed through their first three games and everyone loves it but they've played terrible teams now they step up in class that is reliable as they come struck out three batters in a five out save opportunity and the Yankees five to one the first team to move on to the League Championship series so we wait to see here because they have dropped back to back games the volume has been there for Dak Prescott but the results have not eastern four picks in the last two including three Sunday and the reason air boost pumped is a lot of people say that the Yankees defense isn't good enough to win a world championship I beg to differ you combine that evens you combine it with our oldest Chapman who has been government right on right here in the day of analytics we used our gut instinct and Ryan grim came through and all kind of today because we sat on the show yesterday and criticize them for focused this offense he he is everything to how they operate and how they maneuver from an offensive standpoint when he gets going back is a better football player sales because of Stephen Strasburg it's the national national ensuring we've got much more with tax but let's get back to the NFL Greenie yeah let's get to the cowboys say that I believe in the coach so much that he will mask some of what might be that with Jimmy G. and then the question becomes this now what defense is built to play with the lead rush the passer and they could get off the field and that's a big problem so it's the old axiom you WanNa pass the score and I have to capitalize especially because look at this play its glaze over again he glared and delivered. Aaron Boone is pompous twenty two years old and get it done our game because Tyron Smith didn't play Cam Fleming was destroyed by the Daria Smith and some of this is not on deck and then when you start to talk about Z. being the and you can see the numbers of come way down so I wanna go to my my favorite former cowboy you still live in Dallas why Gustav you're very close to this what is the biggest concern you have right now but needed their defense kill unless they get down and you face a coach who knows how to attack you the Green Bay packers met Leflore said Okay you're it'll be fast and athletic at Linebacker we're just GONNA use a bunch of motion fake reverses to open up a ton of seems in our run game and this is what we saw all game out of the green the packers they control the ball for over thirty six minutes it's really hard to win games when your defense is on the field for thirty six minutes and Aaron Jones to store them up that there was one story right now that obviously takes precedence in every conceivable way in the world of Sports L. Let's get to that I think screen China's state broadcaster. CCTV says it will years ago silver spoke again in Japan and was asked about the growing controversy we are not apologizing for Darryl to win they can't get Zeke Elliott going in the second half because they kick it off killing defense with Mike you know we could talk about the offense all we want but this offense at eight point three yards per leading to series two games to one with an opportunity to close it out bodmer defense he led the majors in Rivi Anthony Rendon comes up and this is the MVP candidate the dodgers the thing we don't know yet is when he is pressed into those moments where he's going to have to throw the ball party chair because that game is coming can do it and sustainable what you guys saying you turn the ball over three times you'RE GONNA lose the game more than likely right this Dallas defense is an opportunistic defense but the reason why they had longer air to NBA preseason game set to be played in China this week in a statement CCTV indicated the decision was prompted by NBA. Commissioner Adam Silver's Rachel Nichols and Rachel I know that you spend time with the nets players today what are they saying about the growing controversy between the League and the Chinese Government Wiz been able to do but here's Cam Fleming and this is some Dan would take them about during the game we've talked about it last week that was under duress the entire rider he had the dodgers off bounds all game long and massive performance from Sherzer it gets out of the jam their finishes with seven innings pitched WANNA run seven KS nationals win six one the marks on Monday supporting rockets General Manager Darryl Moris right to free speech you may remember last week he tweeted support for anti-government demonstrations in Hong Kong precising his freedom of expression I regret again having communicated directly with many friends in China that so many the people are upset including millions and millions of fans I don't come here sort of either as the commissioner in the NBA is an American. Oh you heard Adam silver their reference ming-yao is actually now the chairman of the Chinese Basketball Association and silver shared with everyone that y'all was quote extremely hoping that together Yao Ming and I can find an accommodation the nets and Lakers set to square off in Shanghai on Thursday and that's where we find our the receivers are more open in the office of land is protected against guys has never singled out swagger my concern is on the other side of the ball if we go back over the last two weeks the same and figuratively in San Francisco we'll start there then almost as many big questions and big day is the cowboys trying to pick up the pieces for the first three weeks of their season gain per per play last week the cowboys as a football team are built to play with the Lee right they're built to get the lead on offense and then the these values that are deeply rooted in the DNA of the NBA and that includes freedom of expression for our employees and I I'm have to see if that actually happens the Lakers arrived tonight they haven't NBA cares events scheduled for tomorrow we're waiting to find out if that's going to go forward and we're waiting to find out if the and certainly to tell others how they should run their governments I think though at at the end of the day though I am an American and there are what about what has transpired over the past week and he's not the only one the nets were supposed to be an NBA cares event today here in Shanghai they're supposed to dedicate a learning center and an elementary doc was attacking these greats in Vandereycken James Smith linebacker also this defense we talked about this football field. Here's our for me comment on a geopolitical situation that's taking place halfway around the world from where he lives and is very nuanced the guys just told me they'd like to play some basketball here and itself is going to go forward on Thursday Adam silver is going to meet with some officials here in Shanghai tomorrow we'll find out if they're gonNA play ball Rachel Nichols has the latest on this school and instead that was canceled by the Bureau of Education so instead we caught up with some of the nets players at the team hotel and I asked them just what was it like to be in the middle of all all of this Deandra Jordan told me this probably isn't a big surprise guys that he knows people are GonNa want them to come out and take a stand here but he does not feel that qualified success is because this offense ran the football because they they control right now they want Rpo they want to throw the ball and stories story that we'll have for you here on get up through all of ESPN platforms thanks Rachel coming up right here on Zaylon taking flight we've got his there are three plays and they turn the ball have to leave it here because we all g you know we have I walked up and we have a lot to say about the cowboys first NBA dunked from a fantastic debut in Atlanta. You'll want to see it plus Bruce Allen says the Redskins don't have a culture problem Marcus Spears just choked on his water what our analysts think about that all coming up on Guetta up on E._S._p._N. and see how easy homeowners and renters insurance can be morning never seen a player in basket now the joy of my NBA World is in Zion an absolute monster he's going to be fun twitter blew up generational talent yet but at the very least is with the culture in Washington's football program all that and more but first a little sneaking Hembo John which are the only two teams to win and goes the Baltimore Ravens I love it he stayed in the division but it's the steelers you had the right to vision but the wrong team dealers Batan Stone Mountain here's what he said Oh lane open up I'll be right back yeah I'm pretty sure newhouse might be hunt what makes you say that the furniture is levitating on the ghost snaky Hembo which are the only two teams to win and lose a game by at least twenty points this season Cleveland browns are one of them and then I'm going to stay in the division fronts we have a terrific power coming away in five minutes you'll see Zions first NBA game where will you see how it started is Baker to brash for his own good and others the browns are the only when I do tributes twitter you just can't win now sometimes on twitter you actually do in this case probably not but this is pretty much all NBA season I can definitively say after watching a preseason debut of Zion he's not a bust and there it is ETA absolutely dominates and then it gets a little talk with the man Vince Carter sixteen point six for thirteen coming back Jalen rose and a little bit is going to be talking not only I got some intriguing preseason games and then he does it again a pick and roll and a little finger roll he can do a little bit of everything but there he is at his preseason debut ended doc great you're not sticking around the bar is just getting started a week call today about Zion but his presence debut and the NBA in general as we inch closer and closer to opening day the only thing more than watching Zion donkeys watching Dan get questions wrong remember this Baker Mayfield in Oklahoma member and Ohio State or taking on Ohio state when he plants the flag at midfield at Ohio State Nick Bosa I'm home yeah that's that's bookie you know what's really scaring missing out on Geico for help with homeowners and renters insurance gyco makes it easy to sink okay so he wasn't the only one this is Richard Sherman talking about Baker Mayfield apparently wouldn't shake his hand before the game and Richard Sherman said what's amazing and annoying in Lincoln Riley was running up the score boy Baker Mayfield came in this league like he was the reason dudes played in the league like he's a guy that has made aid I'm just saying no one ever has before at that position that's not how you behave so he's trying to do something that has never worked before swag is it backfiring on them Hey mm-hmm the Ohio states do you think he doesn't remember that so here he comes on a big play last night on a night where he was all over the quarterback oh he remembered want jeers the delegation they were ready for this last side thirty one two three the forty niners win and Botha was ready to homes did that it would be one thing but he would never do that because he has too much respect for the game and when you see a guy who doesn't you humble him every chance you get because eventually he will have respect for the League or he two years and may guys great in the NFL and I told you G we had this conversation before the season started the more you talk the more they remember in the worst I mean like to Marcus's point first of all Sherman's exactly correct at quarterback in the NFL when you're loud all the time meaning Mayfield shaking hands at the beginning that some college stuff it's ridiculous respect the game he hasn't done anything in this league how many games he want he's acting like he was MVP last year meantime let's talk about the browns and let's talk about what happened to them last night basically Nick Bosa happened to them last night and if you don't think that teams are ready for them the navy you don't backfiring and I told you it would listen these news don't care about Baker Mayfield is when he was at Oklahoma they will walk into a stadium people would be terrified at effect dude I tell you what he did a very good job preparing for it so it was a huge win last night I'm Nick Bosa was ready for that look at like a Daniel Jones for comparison right now who's a very quiet reserved player hasn't been the dominant player that in the past two weeks but no one you're always outspoken there's never time that you're quiet the spotlight is always on no matter whether you win or lose the spotlight will always be on if you're loud uh winning Ekos checks and when do stop getting checks they turn to the GATT that's responsible for follow that said was talking about it but when you're loud at the quarterback spot the spotlight will always be on we talked about this season every player in the NFL wants a shot at the Cleveland Browns Brackley better let me make this point it's about to get worse they play Seattle this week Seattle played on a Thursday the browns played on a Monday this is the second straight week a disadvantage then they get the Patriots and our FBI makes them a underdog against the broncos this could get a lot worse before it gets better for the Cleveland browns all of that said Audie cares about how much confidence you have and I'm GonNa tell you this too they continue to point like this his team and give a damn about his leadership or as Moxi we'll be out of it holy smoke so guys here's the question the point I've made for a long time as I'm not saying you can't do it the way Baker does it the brashness and everything else and succeed focus on because I just WanNa just endear myself to my that yeah that lasted all of about two minutes into his data how they felt lose a game by at least twenty points this season if it was a judgment on behalf right we've got the answer coming up next assuming they're not going to go with Bill Callahan they have to get somebody that can maximize dwayne Jackson's ability and they may have somebody in the building Kevin O'CONNELL their offense coordinator somebody work without the jets really smart player a lot of people feel he has the ability to be a really good hey coach and this is an organization that had kyle Shanahan and he left John mcvie it will not get nearly as bad as it's gotten for the Redskins L. Let's go for them you think Cleveland struggling Washington's like hold my beer they fire their head coach Jay Gruden early Monday morning everybody knows what those for just wanted to get payback coming I was thinking like do I need to practice function happening in our nation's capital although you can't as team President Bruce Allin that the culture is actually damned good the they named assistant head coach offensive line coach Bill Callahan as their interim he doesn't have plans necessarily to start dwayne houses he doesn't have plants not too I mean listen we all know there's these people care we have a very young core players that we have brought in here who are accustomed to winning okay as we're driver is it gonNA look bad practice a little bit in my room quits video side-by-side image is in my head and listen I appreciate Baker his realness but he asked for this and like I said before at the end of the day no one's going to talk about and let's be honest some of what Bruce Allen is doing is is very public because he's got to bring a coach in what kind of coach should they be looking for in this going to the college ranks why would they want this job and it desirable they would have to get unfettered control and complete responsibility the roster so they can make the there's about what's happening there's no accountability there's no long term goal don't sit here and tell me that the coacher is good when one you had a coach who takes a very classless move and embed melts the rookie quarterback on the way out saying he can't learn to to tell me that everybody S. decision about Dwayne Haskins and everybody else on that roster and doesn't seem like you could actually put on a contract that Dan Snyder would have to be less Dan Snyder like that you'd be able to have that kind in a good place Bruce Island what are you looking at what football team what you looking at you gotta coach that basically was like I'm getting my way out of here you got quarterbacks aww strong so startling stop picking on the Hawks later on in the first another one DJ Salad Front it back is on the same page with your culture there's no accountability in your culture coach is having everybody with the same set of values tell me who in the Washington thing you can do is talk about other players every player that plays the Cleveland browns and Baker Mayfield has extra incentive to make this team look terrible poses no I didn't know that until I was informed before I got up here good for him goodbye it's from Japan on the way it's get up on ESPN based on what we've been watching the Washington risk is the yeah I've been in this kosher before I started my nfl career in a coach like this where no one the culture is actually damn good go ahead the coach Lou number one are we can use other words okay here's the thing got a lot of criticism after throwing three picks against the packers here's what he said after the loss say that sure we might we might have sniffed ourselves troll nevertheless greenie apparently a fantastic culture that everyone would want to be in ask Bruce Allin I wish you had seen swag whose face when Bruce Allen said that Bruce Ellen has boss of the reason why that's the reality let's take a break coming up here on get a much more to do that Prescott says the cowboys have quote sniffed ourselves he left Matt Leflore he left so their best answer may be in the building okay and what if it isn't in the building like there's a lot of names being thrown around right now a Ryan Lincoln Riley he wants to be don't tell me he's not ready that's your job J. O. B. Some extremely well how there's almost no way weekend which is the jets on the road let's go to the raiders there three into after a big win against the bears in London on Sunday and Jon Gruden to say the least pretty good it's a good idea screaming his name like come on pick it up we want to challenge because the quarterback and his personality but but no this was this is Moxie this high he played great you know what you don't nobody give a damn about that redskins organization has the same values as Bruce Allin does right now and they've taken this young quarterback this take this stuff personable personal because you okay here's where you hear what some people say and then you hear what Swaggie says it we're going to start with his former gene the Dallas cowboys quarterback what did he mean by that so have you says we'll explain all and early this morning James Harden and Russell Westbrook reunited on the court and hardened went off highly all like do you remember when Zion was all I'm not really going to like forget I got a hundred million dollars Yes grooten yes love it about twenty eighteen anymore they're going to talk about Baker you gotTa start playing better football now there's a lot of problems that organization but Marcus said man and the heat is coming with this schedule the now like emitting you have a problem is the first step right and when you I can't believe Bruce Allen said that we've got high we beat three teams were bad and now we know who we are and that's not very good the last two weeks fair enough and the one thing that they really need to get better what they have this a bit too much and and that's why I say we'll take take these last two games and especially this one is say hey we probably needed that accent on digs plenty of uncertainty about his future with the vikings heading into last Sunday's game against the giants then they played great and after the game he was asked about his future for me to follow that up the reality is that the culture of the Washington redskins is not damn good it's a disgrace it is the laughing stock of the sport and Bruce What does swag who say you

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Hour 1: Last Straw for Snyder

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Hour 1: Last Straw for Snyder

"I take your take. On ESPN RADIO AND ESPN News Jason Fitz is off again today I'm. Jeff dickerson sitting in. We Are Presented by progressive insurance. We'll devote almost the entire show to the explosive allegations made against Washington's NFL team by the Washington Post in a report yesterday so much on that story coming up and just a moment time right now it's time for headlines here on ESPN radio and again fifteen women who previously worked for Washington's NFL organization have alleged sexual harassment and verbal abuse by former scouts and members of owner Daniel Snyder's inner circle. The Washington Post reported on Thursday. Alex Rodriguez among the bidders for a possible purchase of New York, mets called for baseball players to accept the type of revenue sharing system that is tied to a salary cap and sparked quick opposition from the Union. However, Rodriguez later stressed. He never said quote salary cap. The Milwaukee Bucks Guard. Eric bledsoe tested positive for the coronavirus and has yet to make the trip to Orlando to join the team for the NBA restart. He told ESPN on Thursday. Headlines brought to you by straight talk, trae talk, wireless runs the same networks for up to fifty percent less get the. Plan the twenty five gigs of high speed data then two G. for just forty five bucks a month. No contract straight talk wireless, no contract, no compromise. I your take ESPN RADIO ESPN news I'm Jeff Dickerson in for Jason Fitz here on this Friday, and of course, our big story that's been reverberating across the sports landscape has to do with the Washington Post report from yesterday where fifteen women who previously worked for the team have alleged sexual harassment and verbal abuse by scouts and members of Daniel Steiner's inner circle. Now Daniel. Snyder was not accused directly of any wrongdoing, nor was Bruce Allen is former GM. Snyder was asked multiple times by the post to comment about the story and every time he refused, he did release a statement. Saying quote, the behavior described in yesterday's Washington Post article has no place in our franchise society. The story has strengthened my commitment to setting a new culture in standard for our team, a process that began with the hiring of coach Ron Rivera earlier this year. Of course, this was a story that dominated I. Take this on ESPN Dominic. Foxworth and Damien woody were our host, and both of them gave their reaction to everything that has thus far unfolded in Washington. They do need to get it right, but we have no reason to believe that they will get it right. They have a kind of a long history in that franchise. Some of it is rumor, and some of it or things that actually have been reported and seem to be fact then you can go all the way back to the story as written in two thousand eighteen about the twenty thirteen trip that the cheerleaders took to Costa, Rica where they had the cheerleaders taking part in topless photo shoots, and they allowed people who paid for sweets to walk around and view the cheerleaders during that process. Reported that they stood up to create barricades so that the the suite holders couldn't see their teammates out there without their clothes on, and then at the end of that process, they also allowed the suite holders to select from the group of teachers, the ones that they wanted to escort them to a party and they did all this after taking the passport away from. From their cheerleaders that was in two, thousand, thirteen, reported in twenty, eight hundred, and then you can just go back to last year. Where there was forty employees, they left because they. They cited issues with the culture that they had there. We can go back to the mismanagement of Trent Williams injury. which I know doesn't fit into this theme, but it is also a series. Evidence of mismanagement, and then we have this come out, we come out. We have this come out yesterday, which is also incredibly embarrassing and disappointing, so I agree with Adam that punishment, taking draft picks, or finding them to me feels empty and irrelevant but I the question I have for for him, and for for anybody else. Frankly, is there conversation about Dan Snyder future in who is actually going to fix this because Dan Snyder has demonstrated that he is incapable. Incapable of fixing this problem, he may be part of the problem and Ron Rivera a football coach. Stop it if you think that Ron. Rivera is GonNa fix this? He's a football coach and we shouldn't ask him to fix. This is not a responsibility. He has no ability to do so. We have no reason to believe that he's capable of doing so so I hope Dan Snyder speaks at some point. I'm interested to hear what would have to say about it. Well Listen I. Think first of all from a macro level. This is something that women in generally in sports at the deal with a quite some time, and we're not just talking about the national football league, but sports in general so. I applaud all the women that in forward in the Washington Post article to really tell their story about what's been going on with the Washington franchise acquired some time. We've heard the stories and dominic you. You referenced him talking about the cheerleader, a cheerleader incident you know in in Costa Rica I believe the aboard behavior down there, and then obviously the story that I just dropped yesterday from the Washington Post in a toxic environment with the Washington Redskins, and you know when you think about it anytime, we anytime you talk about a toxic environment, a workplace culture that is just this horrible. Is usually because of toxic management, and and that's really been a theme offer the Washington Franchise for quite some time for years now have they been putting back on the field, but behind behind the scenes of behind the walls of the franchise has been terrible behavioral. That's been going on all levels whether it's management scouting coaching. In all levels in the one thing that you would like to see as you would like to see the face of the franchise, the number one person could no one hundred, and that would be the owner. Dan Snyder step forward by Mark Cuban. Day with the Dallas cowboys when they had a incident. Is You know alleged incidents is brought forward with the with the Dallas Mavericks? Mark Cuban came straight out and said you know what this the buck stops and starts with meet He put forward a plan to try to remedy the situation we to see anything like that from Dan Snyder as far as this topic and many other topics come on come up with the Washington Washington franchise so. Like Adam Schefter said the NFL could. Out Step in finding a franchise, a bunch of money and taking away draft picks suspend. You Know Dan, Snyder blood. Really if you have to if you have to wait on on our outside. Source of Lebanese type of changes. Duchess speaks volumes for the type of organization that you run as a whole. Damien Woody Dominic Foxworth on I. Take this is I. Take your take. Jeff dickerson pertain fits DSP and radio. ESPN. News Radio is presented by Progressive Home. Insurance your quote at Progressive Dot com today. We want to hear from you throughout the show. What type of punishment should the NFL dish out to Dan Snyder and the Washington team? You can tweet me at Dickerson, ESPN, give us a call triple eight say espn eight, eight, eight, seven to nine, thirty, seven, seventy six. I want to echo what Dominique and Damian said it takes a lot of Kurds for anyone to step out and speak about this publicly. And so I applaud the fifteen women that came forward only one emily applegate was able to speak on the record. I also WanNa mention that you know. The other fourteen women had signed a nondisclosure agreement with the club, according to The Washington, post at the time they left, and they were the post, asked the The Washington team to way that nondisclosure clause with these women could speak on the record and the Washington team said no, so that is in the Washington Post story so one though Emily applegate a former Washington. Red Skins employ did speak on the record to the Washington Post and she described that team's culture of sexual harassment. I had A. Week maybe are so that was great and I was like. Yes, this is exactly what I wanted. What was explained to me and this is going to be great and then you get your first screaming at you for something that you it's not your fault, and then somebody makes a comment to you about what you're wearing and the just snowballs from there and it really took. Most people know times a comment on my appearance. And then when you work in sports, there are literally. Thousands of people lined up to take your job. If you complain, that happens everywhere. In a lot of realms mean working in sports in any capacity is dream job for most and a lot of people just don't feel comfortable like they can come forward sometimes because they know how easily replaceable they are so jason read my good friend and writer at the undefeated covered the Washington team for a long time. He joined Dominique and Damian this morning on. I take these allegations are sad, but but not at all surprising. It's not at all surprising to me, which is. Really very sad i. mean during my time as a reporter on the team I had been tipped off allegations about. Some of these, some of these same things at the Post reported on, and you know you do your reporting. You go to people you try to find out what's going on with. People don't WanNa. And if you can't obtain the information, move forward you, don't you? You go you go with reporting takes you where the reporting took the post reporters on this piece was very troubling places, and it's really just on acceptable that this is allowed that these situations have been allowed to continue as long as they have continued, and it very disappointing that the people in leadership did not do the things they needed to. To do to stop these things. Obviously, hiring an outside firm is important. Step to take an I. Don't know specific any specifics about the law firm that they hired I'm sure they have integrity, but I think the fact remains that the Washington team will be the ones who are paying them so I wonder if there's any if you're hearing anything about the NFL, hopefully changing their position in hiring another firm. Independent truly independent firm to do this investigation because I'm not sure how easy it is to come to. Conclusions when your paycheck is coming from the same place that you're task to investigate. Dumb. Great Point I mean in this type of situation. What's most needed is complete transparency. What's most needed is a situation where no one can doubt what's going, and this is not the cast aspersions on the law firm of Higher I. Don't know that that what what the background is in terms of hey, what any connections or might be with anyone in the organization, but the reality of it is the NFL has to do its own independent investigation now the league put out a statement saying that it would wait. Until after that investigation was complete to decide what I wanted to do. In terms of potentially moving forward, but to me in the climate, we're in dom in the era that we're in with all this transformative change going on around the country posts me too movement. I do not see how the NFL can let one investigation stand that the team is paying for. A I know in the Washington. Post article I talked about the protocols or you know how these these different instances. We're being reported and he talked about a lack of HR department with the Washington redskins. Only one person was considered hr or the entire building I. Mean You talk about that? Have you heard any any specifics about how these? These alleged incidents incidents being reported within the building. A listen my man when when when you cover the when you cover this organization, you understand that things happen there that don't necessarily happen about the NFL. And this was something that we heard about for years about essentially as mom and pop mentality, not hiring to have departments fully staff, not paying people you know at at wages. We okay that you're going to retain top talent, so it's not at all surprising when I read that in the store. Okay well. Yeah, because that's. That's the way they do things there. You can't really talk about having a good corporate culture when you have that many employees pointing to to one HR person, and that person is simply overwhelm, and then on top of it, my man, you have a situation where the people who have problems don't feel the climate exists in which they can truly voice. What's going on I mean the only thing you're doing is continuing the cycle of a cycle that needs to be broken. We saw we saw Fedex and seminar. Partners apply enough pressure and internal people apply enough pressure that they were forced to change their name. I'm wondering if you're hearing any of that similar pressure starting to mount for Daniel Snyder future given the fact that this is not just one isolated incident. Obviously Daniel Snyder was not. Implicated in any of these accusations specifically, but he led this organization, and as we talked about in the first segment. He also was the head of this organization when they had that. Sexual harassment issue with the cheerleaders and the Costa Rica trip, and he was head organization when forty of his employees decided to to leave a year ago because they cited culture issues, so I would imagine that some of the sponsors and internal people might be having these conversations, and that's something that you've heard. Well the I've heard a lot of conversations are still ongoing obviously around the site story. Doubt, but you you. You pointed to something go in the peace. It made it clear that these allegations did not clutch Daniel Snyder and we saw the situation happen. The character with the Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson when the League launched investigation, but Jerry Richardson was actually named in wrong right wing. That's a key difference here now. Having said that dumb. The reality of it is washing. WASHINGTON NFL franchise. Spans would absolutely love to have new ownership, but we'll new ownership be put in place I. Highly doubt that. That's a great question Jason Read The undefeated on with Dominique and Damian this morning on I take this is I. Take Your take on Jeff. dickerson for Jason. Fitz radio ESPN news. Russell on the ESPN APP. SIRIUSXM channel eighty I've covered the NFL for Jesus over fifteen years now for ESPN so I can tell you flat out that. There are good organizations and there are bad organizations, and it's not hard. To look around the NFL in find the bad organizations, they're the ones that consistently find themselves. Controversies consistently don't win. Consistently fire. Their coaches fired. Their general managers churn out the roster year after year after year. You cannot be successful in the national football, League with poor ownership I'm sorry. It's impossible now. There are varying degrees of poor ownership. Not everyone is rock bottom, but just look around. Look at the NFL. Look at the teams that consistently win. Look at their owners. They're not perfect. But they run their operation the right way they might have their indiscretions off the field away from the game, but look at how they run their organizations from top to bottom. They win every year. It's a winning culture now look at the teams that struggle almost every year to make the playoffs, and there are several of them in football. What they all have in common. I think it's very obvious for the most part. It's week ownership at the top. It's people not having control, not hiring the right people not empowering the right people allowing things to happen cutting corners sweeping stuff under the rug. I've seen it every day for fifteen years now I think the allegations against Washington are absolutely horrific, and you would hope in any workplace. In any workplace, this stuff would not happen. However, we would all be naive to think that's not happening. A lot in America, but when you have an owner that again consistently makes news for the wrong reasons. Fires head coaches left and right. Has. A terrible stadium terrible fan experience. They always lose. It's an undisciplined culture. Things like this happen. Now I hurt again Dominique Foxworth. Senate, I take this morning and it was a good point you know Ron. Rivera should not be looked to. To be the person to solve all these issues that is correct that is in ownership problem, first and foremost, and we'll talk about that a lot coming up throughout the show again. What type of punishment should the dish out to dance Snyder and the Washington team in general tweet me at Dickerson ESPN. Give us a call. Triple eight say ESPN Eight, eight, seven to nine, thirty, seven, seventy, six. I think Ron Rivera those actually a really good higher. For for Washington I I was pleased for them. For their players for their fan base when they hired Ron. I covered Ron and Chicago for many years. When he was the bears offensive coordinator, I was very successful and Carolina had to deal with some similar stuff. Jerry Richardson. But not! In a way where you know I think he would have to be as as a upfront centers. He is going to be now for Washington. But? You know. He was successful. Head Coaching Carolina. Ron was in a good system in Chicago worked for Andy Reid in Philadelphia with the chargers as an inside linebackers coach when they were very successful. I I think I think Ron Rivera is a respectful person. I think he's a person that will set a better culture in the locker room on the football side of things. But clearly, this is a problem that touches every aspect of the Washington football club from on the field to the front office to the business side to the marketing side, and again to reiterate. The Washington Post did not find any direct accusations against Daniel. Snyder, but when you are the owner of a team, the buck stops with you. You are responsible. There is no way you can be a successful owner of a business. Where there is rampant sexual harassment. In this of stuff, verbal abuse happening in Your Business and you not be aware of either you were aware of it, and you chose to do nothing about it, or which which honestly is terrible, but even worse is. Maybe you didn't know about it, but you should know about it. You're in charge. You're the owner. You have a responsibility to all your employees to make them feel safe when they go to work to feel protected in their workplace. And by not knowing. Well that is an even bigger indictment because you shouldn't be in charge of anything, if stuff like this happens in your franchise, and you claim not to know about it so a ton more on this story coming up during the show. It's been quite the past few weeks in DC for Snyder. What are the chances? He eventually sells the team. That's coming up. Hello, this is your apartment. I need some favors from you. Your cat keeps rubbing against the kitchen island and I can't return the favor. Can you give extra pets for me after that? Could you bundle your renters car insurance with Geico? We could save money and it's easy to do online and one last thing. Could you leave the TV on during the day? I need to catch up on my soaps. For Bundling made easy. 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Of course, the top story in all sports right now has to do with the Washington NFL team after the Washington Post reported on Thursday that the fifteen former employees of the franchise have come forward, and accused the franchise of sexual harassment and verbal abuse by scouts and members of Daniel. Snyder, the. The owner his inner circle. I'll less. Carpenter covers Washington's football team for the Washington Post. He joins me now on the Shell Pennzoil performance line less. Thank you so much. Give me some time I know it's very a busy day for you and everyone at your paper. What happens next less I mean? It was very brave. Women come forward and reveal what has been happening allegedly happening with the franchise for for many many years. What's going to be the next step here as we move forward in this story cycle? Well you know that's that's kind of a broad question. given everything that's going on this team, right? He, can I mean a team has gone ahead and hired is a lawyer from a very big firm here. She actually represented several people in different situations like this in Washington to do a thorough review, the organizations kind of behavior how it's oversaw these allegations what was done what wasn't done and that will kind of give report? The team says it. That'll be kind of something that will use going forward to League has also said that it would like to see this report completed before it decides anything about the team but I. I think everyone's GonNa be focused on report now for the next few weeks. In terms of this issue where the rescuers right now and again we probably can't even say that name anymore. there are so many other issues that are going on that. This is just one of many fires. How culpable do you think Dan Snyder should be in all of this less. Well we near the owner of the team, especially one that wants to have such firm control everything that goes on I everything is going to go back to him The biggest thing that continues to be said about this franchise I've lived in Washington for about fifteen years off and on I've been around that team now. I've I've been around every day for the last couple of years over the years the thing I. always heard regardless of who was coaching, and who is charged terms of team president, or whatever always was the culture here? The culture here the culture the culture is wrong. There's something wrong with culture. Obviously, this story speaks to an issue of culture. There's a culture that allows this to exist Iran remember. It's. certainly on the football team. He's been able to tack that a little bit for the little. They've bet any in the building, but ultimately especially without a team president, a place right now and an or an executive that kind of between Dan night or an and Rivera denied, or the other people business operation Yeah, I think a lot goes back to the owner because he's such a such a large figure. Less Carpenter from the Washington Post, joining me on I take your take Jeff Dickerson for Jason. FITZ ESPN radio. ESPN news, I covered Ron Rivera for a lot of years in Chicago and I think he's. A good person for the football culture, but I mean I mean ultimately. How much do you think he can do I mean how much of an impact can football coach have given that the owner? Is Dan Snyder and like you said he's someone that seems wants to exert full control over the team at all times. It's a good question. I looked into a little bit of his time, Carolina. I feel like the culture. He brought to the panthers as a head. Coach seeks through the rest of the organization, and that was good, but again you had several other. Executives there that that could also help with that, and ultimately to this is a this is an organization where the owner wound up losing team over a situation similar to this Washington. so. Culture can only go so far with the football coach and I I the coach in any professional sports team He's at the being asked to do a lot here because he has been involved in the name issue, we haven't even talked about. He's been involved in the You know in this issue, a little bit I think in response You know there's probably other kind of crises going on right now that he's been kinda brought into and he. He was here to you know to coach the other coaches that have that kind of power with their franchises they ability check or read that we're supposed to be the models for this. You know those guys all have buffers between himself and ownership, and then sells it and arrested the rest of the team so it'll be interesting. They're going to have to figure that out of on the fly a power. They going to rebuild the culture in this franchise. Without the structure of maybe necessarily to do so at least as it's right now. Can you give us an idea last? I mean just. I have to imagine that. The the football fan in DC right now has to be just fed up i. mean what's the tally like right now for fan of the team? Coming off everything that's happened. We're their frustration level at. Many, fold right now, I, you know anyone that's Kinda familiar with what Washington it used to be a few years back. You know decade back to back, I mean. This team the town I mean you. Washington was a tunnel for the Washington football team that was it. Everything else was secondary, and a lot of people have moved to the city in the last fifteen years, a lot of people come from other places, and it started families here and therefore kind of adopted the nationals national came in, and if obviously visit to some success, the capital reverence to good success, people have. Have adopted those teams and the and the Washington. Football team is all I mean a stock the same market. It was a few years back in the day. The fan base is not the same, so there's that first of all, and secondly yes, fans are very upset. I think you probably saw Internet speculation about the story. You know just with the beyond any kind of. Reasonable imagination of of what the story would be about, I think solely because fans are so frustrated. They WANNA bombshell that might get dance neither relived his owner I? I think that there is an enormous frustration with him in this town and I'm sure he must understand that That was part of what the Rivera Higher I think about but Yeah I think there's an enormous frustration with Snyder and with the way the franchise has been run I. I also worried to a point I mean what these women have said in the courage it took to to come forward and say these things make these allegations may not. You may not necessarily hit people as hard as it probably should. Because kind of dumb to to what's been going on with this franchise less carpenter with us and I take your take. ESPN radio and ESPN news I mean. Do you think there's any likelihood last that Snyder is eventually forced to the team? I don't think over this, I 'cause none of the allegations about him. Directly with more about the culture and the way the operated I where I think to keep the eye on the fact that forty percent of his ownership, the three made minority owners have all. Enlisted affirm to to try to sell their shares at the team interactivity selling their shares team it. That is I think the biggest threat that he faces right now That's that's a lot of money that you have to figure out how you're going to find the best or whatnot. And I think the sign that everyone should have that at least. You know it's not a hundred percent. Ironclad is going on his team I'm not saying he's knocking on this team. There's excellent chance still well. I'm just saying it's not one hundred percent anymore, and the reason of that is because of this The fact that is three main partners are now. Walking so you know that's in kind of in the name and all these other things that are going on that seems to be the bigger overriding issue. Here less. Thank you very much for your time. Have a great weekend, okay? All right you too less carpenter from the Washington Post. He covers the Washington football team joining us on the Shell Pennzoil performance line triple eight say ESPN is our phone number eight, eight, eight, seven to nine, thirty, seven, seventy six. What type of punishment should the League dish out to Daniel? Snyder The Washington football team. You can also tweet me throughout the show at Dickerson. ESPN, let's try James Calling from Dayton James. What should happen to Dan Snyder and Washington because of this report? What do you think? Well I think nothing will happen to Dan Snyder. Guests just said, but I think there's going to be some organizational changes, but I think jeff it goes back to your original point. regarding you know organizations that are lose year after year. That are having issues like this. It really does come from the top and you know I I mentioned to your screener. It's like you look at. At the Cincinnati Bengals and the market that I live in Paul Brown went super bowls one. AFC Championships One playoff Games won division titles? Is Son Mike? Brown thinks that in does all the things that you mentioned your list. Not Empowering People taking you know cutting corners short, not running the business the right way everything you described as you were saying it. I saw on the Cincinnati Bengals. Predate James. It's not hard now. The bengals to Mike Brown's credit a little bit now. When he finally found a coach in Marvin, Lewis steady stuck with. They want a lot of games. They went to the playoffs. They were a perennial playoff team. Now they couldn't get over the Hump They couldn't win playoff games, and certainly from the scouting standpoint in that staffing people and having enough bodies in the building and the resources. Yes, in the whole thing about he got on your contract when NFL, teams never honor contracts. He's made his mistakes, but yeah again. It's not hard. Ownership is directly reflected on wins and losses. I'm sorry I mean you could still be a great owner in that win. Super Bowls every year, but good owners know how to hire the right people that put the right type of culture in place where people feel good about coming to work every day. They feel good about doing their jobs. They do their jobs well. They perform they succeed. They're rewarding. They feel like they're part of a team. The franchises that struggle are the ones that there is constant turnover questionable people in charge. Bad decisions bad mistakes, controversy indiscretions. You can't win in the NFL without good ownership. You might win one year out of five or six or seven. You might have that one good year pop up, but consistently you have to have good ownership to win in the NFL. It is proven. So. What type of punishment should the NFL dish out to Daniel Snyder and the Washington team plus Dan Steiner finally released a statement or react to what he said coming up next. I take your take on Jeff. dickerson in for Jason Fitz. It's ESPN radio and ESPN news capitol. One knows life doesn't alert you about your credit card. That's why we created iino the capital, one assistant that looks out for surprise credit card charges like over tipping duplicate charges or potential fraud, then sends an alert to your phone and helps if you need to fix them another way, capital one is watching it for your money when you're not capital and what's in your wallet. SEE CAPITAL ONE DOT com for details. For businesses around the world, today isn't a restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change How they were from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit IBKR DOT com slash smart to learn more. I your take Jeff Dickerson for fits. ESPN RADIO ESPN. News were presented by Progressive Insurance. Guests appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line and pennzoil synthetic motor oils are made from natural gas. It gives you unbeatable engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil based on sequence for a wear test using at five W. Thirty. You can tweet me throughout the show at Dickerson, ESPN, give us a call. Triple eight say ESPN Eight, eight, eight, seven to nine, thirty, seven, seventy six. What should the punishment be for the NFL in light of the Washington Post reporting that fifteen former Washington nfl football team employees have accused. Accused the Organization of sexual harassment verbal abuse from two thousand six to two thousand, nineteen triple eight. SAY ESPN again. You can tweet me at Dickerson. ESPN Daniel. Snyder, did release a statement to behavior described in yesterday's Washington Post. Article has no place in our franchise society. The story has strengthened my commitment to setting a new culture and standard for our team. A process that began with hiring Ron Rivera earlier this year. This was Damian Foxworth and Damien way this morning on i. take giving their reaction to Daniel Steiner statement. Well, listen just worse for me right now you know you in. A press release you hear him. Talk about beefing up You know hr well. Where was this? When you know you had an incident? In two thousand eighteen with the cheerleaders you would have thought after that bombshell dropped that you know h would have been beefed up. They would have been a thorough investigation. Into the accident in Costa Rica, and within the watching the redskins organization, and then you have. This incident dropped so for me, you know. Yes, you know I'm glad to hear from dance neider because we've seen. We've heard from everyone else, but it's just empty words unless I see you know some substance behind the words that he's thrown out here in his press release. And it's something so It's a start, but I think Damon you brought up. Mark Cuban and how he reacted of few when when the things hit. The Mavericks and important thing was mark. Cuban opened himself up to questions and I know. Mark, Cuban is the more public figure Dan Snyder and seeks the spotlight, so maybe that opportunity is a little different, but. But I think when you are the head of an organization like this. When you have a crisis like this uncovered, you have to open yourself up to questions, so a statement is is a step, but I feel like what we need from him is him to stand in front of reporters or one reporter. Create an opportunity where we can ask him the hard. Hard questions and not just sin Ron Rivera out there to answer them and not just type up a press release that says all the right things and try to move on. You need to answer these questions. He didn't make himself available. In the wake of the name change. I still think that's important. Because there are questions he needs to answer for for that. That also but he he needs to answer to some questions and this incident also so maybe he needs to carve out a full day and just sit there and go through the media circuit and be honest and forthright I. Think will go a long way for him. Gaining some credibility with the fans and DC and the fans of the NFL. Yeah statements just a bunch of words. Quite frankly I take your take Jeff Dickerson for Jason Fitz. It's ESPN NEWS ESPN radio. Mean what he should've done. Dan Snyder is responded to the report been interviewed by The Washington Post and also how about this about released the other fourteen women former employees one spoke on the record. She was very brave in doing so, but the other fourteen could not. Speak on the record or lend their name because they signed a nondisclosure agreement with the club when they left Washington. How about released those women from the nondisclosure? So they could actually tell their story and say you know what really happened in their mind, you know if you really want to set the culture, really want to change things. How about having all the facts at your disposal? Maybe Dan standards to hear some more personal stories about his former employees, and how they feel like they were treated by scouts by his circle. Statements are just statements. They mean nothing. The accomplish very little, and is anyone out there really believed that Daniel Snyder that his commitment to setting a new culture and standard for our team is the way to go He's had a long time as an owner to set a new culture, a standard for the team and he has failed to do so repeatedly. So what he's the one that's GonNa. Fix the problems. Does anyone have faith that Daniel Snyder is able and qualified. To fix the problems that are plaguing the Washington football team unless you maybe work for him or part of his family I would find very few people out there that think that he is qualified or is the right person to lead this franchise is. In a new direction? I don't see it and he's had a lot of time to prove himself, and he just hasn't done it over and over and over again coming up. What type of punishment should the NFL dish out the Snyder and Washington team? We discuss all that straight ahead. Jason Fitz is off today. I'm Jeff Dickerson, sitting and its first. Take your take.

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The Ocho: What if Dallas won their Week 17 games from 2011-2013?

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The Ocho: What if Dallas won their Week 17 games from 2011-2013?

"Nona. What up world? Welcome to another episode of the Ocho presented you and partnership as always that'd be nations blog on the boys dot com. I name Arjo enemy, of course, from BT be an from right here as you're humble, host on the oh, Joe happy Thursday to third day. It is June twenty-seventh two thousand nineteen. Hopefully you're week is going, well, hopefully it's full of surprises full of great things because you deserve them Wednesday was the same and the NFL not a lot going on obviously this time of year. It is it is a bit of a dead time when it comes to sports, in general, it's NBA season's over at the NBA awards, by the way mentioned or didn't mention the right guy. Got MVP shoutout to Jaanus and the Houston Rockets, the worst tweet of all time. We did find out on Wednesday that the Carolina Panthers will be featured on all or nothing from Amazon that will premiere on July nineteenth. Very excited if you have fallen me for a few years, you know, that I am really into these things NFL documentaries documentaries in general great. But I love all or nothing. And obviously last year was really unique as we got to see what the Cowboys are like in two thousand seventeen the two thousand eighteen Panthers, obviously kind of kind of crashed and burned kind of had a horrible season down the stretch. And so it will be great to get a peek behind the curtain there and see what happened. Hopefully, Shannon -firmative NFL films will join us as she has each year after all, or nothing to kind of go through, what we saw that is always one of our favorite episodes that we do every year. This episode though is fantastic. This has been what if we across espionage? We've been exploring various. What if got a lot of responses to the miles Austin, what if appreciate those I really do think that, that domino really creates a whole nother level of just reactions and opportunities and potentials, but. This episode wanted to talk about a little bit more complicated. What if everybody knows that from two thousand eleven to two thousand thirteen the Cowboys played win and in games in week? Seventeen against the giants Redskins and eagles respectively, and they lost all three of those games. It was terrible will what if they won those games? What, what would change what, what narratives would be different? How would we have you different legacies? I really wanted to explore that side broaden, one of my great friends are attempting from one five three the fan in Dallas. And from Sirius XM Arias great. He's one of the brightest people I've ever known. You can follow him on Twitter at Ari sports. That's a r I sports he's just a great mind. When it comes to things like this, I thought it would be a lot of fun. And I was right. We had a great conversation. It's something that I think are going to enjoy. And I think go into it with an open mind, because we kind of realized things and talked about things, and kind of ping-pong, some stuff back and forth. And I think it's something. You really going to enjoy our final. What if spoil it for you? Is going to surround something very recent. We're going to talk about on Friday with John owning from the Dallas Morning News. What if the Cowboys did not trade from our Cooper, I've had a lot of fun with this. I really enjoy these kinds of rabbit holes. And so, hopefully you've enjoy the journey as well. Let's start this journey. What if the Cowboys won their week seventeen games in two thousand eleven twelve and thirteen Ari, temp gained from one of the fan in Sirius XM joins us next right here on the show. Please. Join now by one of my very good personal friends, and what I imagined is one of your close personal friends, the only person to ever hug me from behind in the cobwebs press box, you know him from Dallas Cowboys radio network the host of the pre and post game show for America's team, I wanna fight through the fan. Also, you can hear him on Sirius XM covering the big twelve I think, Kansas is part of that Ari tem can, how are you? I just want people to know how awesome you are Joe. You are one of the hardest working man. I know you are so good at what you do. And people should really be, you know. Everybody that's listening to should understand that their coverage of the Cowboys is so good. And there's few better than our jail Chela like that. That's why you hug me isn't it? That's why yes, I, I just people I need people to know that, that happens. It's a it's a fun little tradition. We have going on now where I'm usually because you've come up from doing the pre game show, and I'm usually like just settling into my zone for the game. You know what I mean? And all of a sudden, I just feel I feel safe, and it's because you're typical. So I must add that. Every season. I've done that the Cowboys have made the playoffs and it's true. It's, it's just it really started. Because, you know, we don't get to see each other very often anymore. We hang out all the time. And so it's, it's always good to see you. And so I go to the press box. I see you. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I love R J. So it's good to see him. I love you too. And I love talking about deep things, like if I'm in a in a deep mood, I think, like I need to talk to Ari because nobody can touch a deep topic. Like you can end today is actually a really appropriate day. I think the cause of the democratic debates. I will never forget, one of the first time I did a show Utech som in your like did you watch the debate last night. And I was thinking, like, oh, man, I have to, and it was like seven in the morning. And I don't think I've ever told you this. I read about it for like two hours before I got. So as my deep dark secret. Do you want to discuss those debase now or or? I mean, the debates of now haven't happened, but the debates of then I don't remember what I don't even remember what it was. It was the fall of twenty sixteen. That's all I know. So, yeah, it is what it is. Yeah, it was probably the last presidential debates, right? It was close. It was it was close to that. It was the last one or you know, at what point I don't know, if it was the one that gave us the Hillary Meam like looking around at the balloons, I want to believe it was that one. All the stars have aligned for. And so the deep conversation wanna have we've been talking. What is this week at us be nation and this, this what if is predicated on a few different things? So it's not like you can say a what if that one switch flipped otherwise. A handful of things. But what if in two thousand eleven twelve and thirteen the Cowboys won each of their winning games in week, seventeen because first of all, I feel like we don't and I'm glad we don't feel like the world isn't make enough fun of the Cowboys. Like they lost winning in games to each of their division rivals in three straight seasons. That's a pretty low time. But what if they want all three? I mean, what what if I mean you're talking they were a game away from a division, title, three straight years, GARRETT'S, first years as the head coach, I feel like that would drastically shape some legacies? In big about also that it was three different teams and three consecutive years in which the final game of the season was a head to head matchup with the team. And they had to play to win the division like that's the most. It's like mathematically, my brain hurts thinking about how that's even a possibility. Yeah. Yours, it's week seven games. The things that have to happen outside of your control to lead to that. You and I mean like to get to the point where because it wasn't like winner gets in or winners. The division winner losers the wild card. No, it's literally. Right. Zain losers. Alexey you need the rest of the NFC to unfold, a very specific way. Three straight years. And the fact that it would happen against all three of your division rivals. That's unbelievable. I mean that's really is crazy and that they lost all three. I mean, do you agree that they don't get enough flack from because I feel like after I've maybe memes one as prominent in, you know, what would have been like January of twenty fourteen because I feel like that happened. Now that would be all sorts of, you know, memes and tweets like mocking the college for this industry games, they don't RJ but he does most certainly gets mocked. And that he being Tony Romo. All right. I mean much of Romo and the discussion and debate of his clutch nece and you know, the, the, the, you know the legend of Romo imploding in big games mean much that I would think comes from some of that stretch especially given one of the years that he had three pick game. And that winter winter home week seventeen matchup in Washington. That was terrible. Yeah. Yeah. I mean that's, that's right. The, the RG three Alfred Morris had like seven thousand yards running against them and all over Demark Enron rumble three picks. Yeah. And I don't care to I went back and look for this. But I remember Dez getting hurt at some point. And he was kind of like a no show in that game. So it was like it was like Romo Dwayne Harris and Kevin Ogle tree like you would back you're like holy cow. These guys are terrible. You're right that season Dez hurt his pinky like early December. And that was the Dez blow year was the, the second half of twenty twelve yet that big game against the saints which the Cowboys lost in overtime. But he came back and I vividly they, they were saying, if he plays with it. He's never going to have the same functionality with his pinky ever again. Everybody was warrior, not not that it wasn't. But I mean that was the RAB but you mentioned Kevin Ogle Trie, a brief personal note. I want my first ever fantasy title in my league of record that night because that last touchdown winter, Kevin Ogle tree instead of Jason Witten. So shutout Takeo for getting it done. Not Jason Witten beating the playoffs. Let let's go. Let's go through this every year because I think there's differences about each season starring with twenty eleven when they lost the giants and the giants went on to win the Super Bowl that year. That's correct. And so the what if that I did for yesterday's episode was the first giants came in twenty eleven that was the Jason Pierre Paul block, and what if miles catches the third down pass from Romo, then then the week seventeen game is rendered moot? Because the Cavs had beaten the giants. But so it wasn't that game mattered. And that game was it, what I don't think it was devastating as the year after, but it was a pretty low moment to your point to lose to the giants. That was in New York. It was on New Year's day. I believe, and it was really depressing. Watching them go win the Super Bowl after that win in game. I don't think the Cowboys do that. Even if they win that game. But if they win a division title in Jason Garrett. First full season as head coach that would have been massive. Yeah. No. That would have been credible. And if you recall not the giants game the week before they played Philly and during the game, the giants won and that made basically outcome of that game irrelevant right? Because it eliminated the eagles and that it meant that the Cowboys the playing the giants the final week of the season. The thing that out about that is Jerry Jones taking his secret elevator on down to the field and basically marching out mid game Jason game, did batter that was one of those, like, what the heck is he doing, like, like I remember thinking what would you what would? Like what would Jimmy Johnson do if jas? If Jerry Jones walk down the field and was like, hey you don't win this game. It doesn't matter. You like get off my field old man go back into your box doing here. I mean that is true that, you know, it would have been a Wild Thing, but to your point I forgot about that game that was they pulled Romo because he hit his hand on an eagles players helmet, when you get on fighting Texas, Aggie Stephen McGhee finished. What you're right. Was a meaningless game? But yeah, I mean, and that was the you're talking Jerry's, you know pushing the limits with Garrett in his first season. That's his first full season is already coming trying to get everything. That's nuts. Yeah. That was not. So I don't think I agree with you. I don't think they wanna championship that year because I just don't think Garrett was. I mean not like I think. He's ready now. But I certainly don't think in any capacity was ready then because you know, the whole Garrett puppet narrative was born from that season in many ways because of Jerry walking onto the field. And that was also the season earlier when Garrett Istan Bailey in Arizona. It was a really rough December for Jay. I'll ask you this. This is somewhat connected to the previous way if I mentioned, now's Austin, but if the Cowboys beat the giants, obviously that does a lot for their own internal legacies do the giants. Are they more likely to move on from Tom Coughlin? And in sooner rather than later, if they don't make the playoffs that year. Man. That's a great question. That was their first Ubale. Right. No second. That was their second. Then probably not. No. I think, well, you wanna championship, and I would say, you know, maybe more so Coughlin alive because coaches are way more plausible than than players, but no, I think they wouldn't that first title, and that gives them a good decade basically, leeway. And it does most franchises to I say that's interesting. I'm in I just that, that one is is is funny because it required losing both of those games the giants but I just if they won that game. I mean because so much of the reason Garrett got the job was the way he responded in New York the season prior when he took the Cowboys to New York tonight and they had the berry church interception all that. So if he goes to New York, then it becomes this thing where like all Garrett own. Look, he he played for the giants. He comes to New York and he gets the big. Wins. You want the division and he's this like big man on campus or dude. And you're right. Tony Romo than has three division titles to his name. And even if they don't wanna play off game he still, you know, these regarded as this legit guy. I mean because after that it was. You're right. That's what the upper puppet era was born. But I think that's where a lot of people like jumped onto the oh, Romo chokes big games, too. Yeah. No, totally that's why it's funny because you say, like how much different or we look at everybody or the Cowboys or why weren't keeping fun. I mean again, I think it's so much of that shoulder that burden shouldered by Romo and remember the other thing that season two. They were like. Six and three or seven and four. They were really good and then just completely collapsed down the stretch. And so going back to sort of original point, which is, you know, it was all because of Romo despite the fact that, like, Garrett was icing dent Bailey and Jerry was walking waltzing on the field telling them games. Don't matter in the middle of gave it was used to embarrassment for the Cowboys down the stretch and, and so much more so than Romo by himself, obviously. Okay, so let's say they win that division. And whatever say they I think the giants host of the falcons in the playoffs, and they won the super, but say, the couches Hawkins, even then whatever but they still win the division and what if they're you know, entering twenty twelve is the rain division champs. And they still take down RG threes rookie year. And they win two in a row. I mean because they hadn't and that was the other thing. And that, unfortunately, I mean, we're talking now seven years later remains the thing. You can't put together back to back consecutive, seasons of prominence of playoff appearances whatever if they went to division titles in a row, you get that monkey off your back and you beat, you know this incredible. Rookie sensation in RG three. I mean, if you went to divisions house in a row, you're you're kinda bad ass. Yeah. And in twenty twelve so it's is interesting. Twenty twelve comes down to that Redskins game where, you know, Romo three picks and you know almost choker but so again is going back a week before they played New Orleans. They play him in overtime. And you, you I'm sure you remember this now bring it out in overtime, the Cowboys failed to convert a third down the saints get the ball back and March down the field, and then Marcus Colston huge pickup, and then fumbled the ball, but they ruled an incomplete that they ruled it what they will incompletion or I can't remember but like it was it was clearly a bubble that they didn't rule the fumble and that set up the Hartley field goal which won the game for him. And again if the Cowboys end up winning that game then now that we'd seventeenth the Redskins doesn't matter as much as true. And if they beat the Redskins even on thanksgiving, the week, seven game doesn't matter as much. But that was kind of. The the beginning of the end in immune. It's I'm gonna why wanted to do this. This is awful. But. That thanksgiving game for RG three was like the greatest performance in his in his what we now can tear career. I mean he was like Jesus and cleats. That day. That's true. I think, yeah, I think it's a good comparison. But if they won and that because I feel like if they win not only back to back division titles. The back toback division titles in winning in games against division rivals, obviously on the road because that two thousand eleven weeks, seventy nine was in New York in twenty twenty at Washington. I mean if they pull that off. And again, I know that you got to imply off games in people, even if they wanna play people would have found them to complain about, but they pulled that off that would have been a lot of faith, you know, like men, you went into New York. And then you went into Washington you want these divisions. You've got everybody a cap, insure that would have I feel that would have impressed. A lot of people. I mean it would've been insane. And especially because again, the biggest thing about Romo was lack of playoff wins and his lack of, you know, division titles and garett to would have been there. I think about this. Some remember the question to ask you about RG three or rather about Tom call for the matting affects same question now to like, just think about that. Same question with the the Redskins that season. What happened to the Cowboys make the playoffs? How is the legacy of RG three and Mike Shanahan difference because remember what happened the playoffs that year to them, right? Well RG, first of all RG three doesn't get hurt. That's the first thing because he got right in rice, the adult playoff game. So that's a really fascinating question. So you're talking that because of you know, if Kevin will tree could have just done more from me, then maybe ours, you three stays the quarterback from the Redskins longer because he doesn't get hurt. And therefore he isn't rushed to return in the twenty third season in isn't catastrophic. And I also think on if you if you buy this, I think you do. I mean RJ three got really corporate after that season because he was rookie year in everything, remember, I think it was even like could call the operation patients or whatever it was to get back. I mean, he's got a at the very least a slightly larger sense of humility, so maybe he isn't this, this do, that's all about himself. And so he therefore does have a large chance of having a better NFL career. Yeah. No, I mean so much of like everything that happened to the Redskins organization in, like just moving them in a different direction comes from that playoff loss that Seattle or three blows out the you know, didn't he come back in that game that was all thing about he blows me? Or like inter name. They came back, the really ended up being like a more devastating injury. And then there was all talk about Shanahan force compact. And you know, there's a conversation about you'll should they rush back. Then, you know, see what Kirk cousins has the same years. So all the trouble Shanahan and it was juicy and all goes that playoff game. Like I remember. I remember ESPN San Antonio. We, we got this interview request for a book written by some authors from the Washington Post that was basically about RG threes match season. It was during the off season which it's about how great Archie three was what a magical season. It was just like how he'd. Change the face of the Redskins organization and it was so funny. Because the same guys for the Washington Post built him up to just these epic proportions with the same guy tearing him down for not, you know, showing humility and all these other things. And granted it was there there's a it wasn't like it wasn't there. But it was just such an interesting dynamic played out Washington trade, all these picks to acquire RG three. He was so good like legendary as a rookie and it was like look like they're entire franchise was changed forever in the Cowboys are playing catch-up forever against this team has juggernaut. And then they'll Redskins they complete Washington Redskins and they haven't been the same ever since. I do find that fascinating. I mean, where his individual crew would be also wonder it wasn't the very next offseason, but two years later, so after the twenty thirteen season dish, Sean Jackson goes to Washington in free agency. And I think a lot of that was belief in. RG three and belief in the Redskins because they had wanted a vision title. So recently if the Cowboys beat them like I wonder does Shawn Jackson goes somewhere else. You know, is he lesson climbed to buy in the culture of Washington? You know what I mean? Yeah. No, it's so interesting. So I'm I am really excited Doug about the next season because this is the ultimate what if season for the Cowboys twenty thirteen is the ultimate, what if you're right. So we'll remote in play the to be clear that, that week seventeen game that was the only one of these three that took place at home because other two on the road. So you get the eagles week seventeen at home amazingly, led by Nick foles just gonna grace this. What would what would happen is, is kind of believable. But the last we saw Romo and that's I wanna get into that after this. But the last we saw him was the week before in Washington, where he threw the game winner the DeMarco Murray with a broken back and that I think that kind of cemented, the romo's, a warrior will play through everything sort of thing. But then he was hurt and see had Kyle Orton against the eagles. That's, that's a really big wedding stuff. So I mean you at the nomad right there. I mean, it is one of I mean it might be the most iconic and greatest Tony Romo performance ever because and I don't exactly remember off the top of my head. But we sixteen was also a winner go home game. So they they had to win. They, they were in. And it's also if you go back to twenty seven twenty twelve they were trending down, where they lost their final two Br as in twenty thirteen they needed to keep winning in order to, to keep their hopes alive. And so that game against Washington Romo played, I think the majority of the second half of the herniated disc is back broke it back as you alluded to, and then through ridiculous. Touchdown pass DeMarco Murray on fourth goal if he doesn't throw it they lose the game and their season's over and it's ultimate, like the, the alternate move the goalposts back kind of game for almo because after that, that was a winner go home game Romo threw a broken back. Had to had to plead a ridiculous like that was it was a throwback Roma movers spun out. And then now DeMarco Murray opened who streaking the perfect throw with the broken back. It was like he did you did you won. He won the game. You want the winter home game, and it was like excellent. And then and then it comes out as you mentioned that, that he's not gonna even played because he played three broken back and one and I mean, that was like single handily dragon team lifeless franchise close to get it to the finish line. So first of all the only I mean I love that game I think compass fans, although it's hard, they'll love it completely because of the fact that the week after you found out Roma was hurt and would miss the winner. Go home game against the eagles. But so that game was right around Christmas time. I remember 'cause, you know, like FOX, you know, how do little thing on the like on the score. They wrap it like in the slides. I. Pencil. The, the last four weeks of that season were awful dude. So we're talking to twenty thirteen years. So at this point, they're riding, you know, the previous two years, they've lost his win or go home game whatever. And so they beat the raiders on thanksgiving, cool. And then they go they get along brave and they go. And I know you remember this game they go to Chicago on Monday night football in just get destroyed by Josh mccown. Yeah. And yeah, I remember that, that sets the table further December run. Then they come home and my dad, and I were at this game and they lose to the Matt Flynn lead Packers. And that was literally from points perspective. The greatest comeback ever in Green Bay Packers history that they allow all my God, yet or out about that game. Yeah. So, you know, like a forty point game or something that Glenn Holt was, how it was embarrassing. I mean so they lose those democrat game that decide to pay this mall that money. No, no. They paid off the twenty eleven phen. Sally against the okay. You're right. You're right. You're right. There was a it was a different met that was that. Wilson was reading a leak by that point. You're right. This was the season that Wilson on the Super Bowl but to your point, I feel like we haven't really supposed before math Flynn was Nick foles before, Nicole's Nick foles. Reserves play these ridiculous games like mech exam. So they lose those to go to Washington, and they win. And it's this incredible thing, and I had you mentioned is consenting, I had just moved to San anti this is my first like fall and football season there, and I remember you'll appreciate this as a as a former resident of the area, I was at the washtub went, because I was getting ready. My buddies. And I went and saw Johnny Manzella's last game ever at Texas AM, which was the Chick-fil-A against Duke. And so I was getting ready. And we were going to drive the weekend at the cow was replying the eagles. I was like, okay, let me get my car wash and everything, and I was at the washtub when I saw the tweet that Romo was going to miss Sunday's game against the eagles and I was you know, I was really upset at the time. But yeah, I mean, and so, I know you've heard me riff on this stat like how romo's never never played a game he was mathematically eliminated from playoff contention. Kept that alive on a broken back. But do you think that, that he beats the eagles if he plays instead of cowering 'cause I don't know man? And that was, by the way, the great Gavin Escobar flip that we saw against philli that Sunday night. Lender career. Greg Gavin Escobar always. So I think this was their best chance about three years. Yeah. Yeah. To win a Super Bowl because their offense was so good that year. Remember the next year's the year that they won the division with the dominant offense DeMarco Murray that the chop was rushing record so like and they, they were I mean they were top-five offense that you're in. That was in robo was rolling in terms of he was basically the play caller. So they kind of neutralized she's Garrett a little bit. And they had DeMarco Murray playing at a pretty high level that does Bryant playing at a pretty high level. You know Jason Witten was still in his prime had Kevin are obviously to add to their dominance. I yeah. I mean, and that was the chip Kelly Nick foles eagles, and I think they lost the first run in New Orleans, who and that was that the Russell was at the Russell Wilson Seahawks the championship season that new. New Orleans team would go on to lose to may. I don't remember but so the Seahawks where the one seed that year I think I think that they hosted the saints in the sex. I remember that now. And there was all this crap talking going on the field. And it was like, I remember that vividly like Jimmy Graham then with the saints was talking all this crap to the Seahawks in the divisional round after the saints beat the your. I mean the eagles. Yeah. So I mean I don't I don't know that they, they beat the Seahawks, but I that could be in the saints saints. Not that good that year. And, and, and yeah, I mean, the Cowboys of those three years, I think that was the best team of those three just based on the fact that they had a really really good offense. Which we then saw the next year with, with how good they were. Yeah. But the Orden thing was just so funny because they spent they didn't spend a bunch of money to bring him in. And it was like we number Jerry, like with time like these, why we paid like that was part of the aero the Cowboys doing, like they, if they paid a lot of money for their backup they were going to be in good shape yet. They still had a coach that wanted to, you know kinda run the same offense. They've been running with a completely different quarterback without even close to the same skill set previous guy. So it was just such a, a baris- -ment for the cow an ordinance. I recall actually didn't play that poor like a pretty good game. But I mean it was Nick foles chip, Kelly and another. You know, another man what happened. What happened? Oh situation. Right. Like, like three, you know, we talked about coughing, and he li- we talked about Shanahan and RG three and then chip Kelly, and Nick foles and it wasn't. I mean it was like the year year later Cowboys division, finally. And then, you know, the whole thing until it Elfi just completed your rates Nick foles had this ridiculously good season. It was very bizarre. It was a very bizarre time in the NFL, and I think, in many ways that changing tide of the NFL chip Kelly is, is interesting to me, because I remember you know, he kind of changed the way teams fought about gaining the NFL and he wasn't obviously success in the NFL. And I think so much of that is just due to the fact that the ultimate power and was just not a good decision maker in terms of personnel. But so much of the modern coaching tendencies, it comes from sort of a chip Kelly point of view of, you know, looking at football looking at schematics a completely different way than we traditionally thought of it, and, you know, and chip in many. Ways I think, opened up the door for more forward thinking, you know, more creative, you know, it's, it's it no longer became sort of the old man old guard by the book, sort of game. And I think chip Kelly in many ways, was the start of that, even though he wasn't successful which is interesting. I agree. And I will say, when you know, if you look at what if for the three years, I think we agree, the giants go down at different, you know, path, and the Redskins go down different Pat, ours. Specifically, I think the eagles are least impacted if they lose the game versus the giants Redskins. I think eagle totally. They stay believing in ship for, you know, the two more years, they do they fired him at the end of the twenty fifteen season. And I think I think that their future is relatively, you know, the same in terms of the weight alternately ended up. So now I wanna talk about what if the Cowboys win those three division Taus? So if they're just winners of three straight division, titles. I mean what, what is their rep? And say they want one wildcard round game. You know, like, I, I don't think you know, maybe the twenty third cow was good to the divisional round, or you know, who knows whatever. But if they have won three straight division, titles, invasive, GARRETT'S first three years as the head coach, I mean, I think that I think that people are sold because I mean this happens a lot of, like, like, in won the Super Bowl, so whatever, but like national media like latches onto the eagles these days like, oh, they're brilliant, everything. The eagles do is like forward thinking cutting edge I think the Cowboys that ramp if they win three straight division titles under Jason Garrett. Some things I'm thinking through this benefits more from that who benefits more from a narrative standpoint and a legacy standpoint, winning three consecutive division, titles in those three years, what have been Garrett or what have been aroma who who's the greater benefit? So my first thought on this question would be Romo? I is Romo because you know so much the he didn't get the playoffs. He didn't. You know but, but even he doesn't win playoff. I still think that that narrative sticks I Garrett benefit significantly more from that. And I think we are where we are right now with Garrett in a more justifiable sense, like Garrett still coach, but it makes more sense because look what he did early honors career as opposed to it's like Garrett here. We don't have any clue why. That's fair like GARRETT'S it. Jared who he is in two thousand nineteen just with more justification. That's fair. But so I don't know that Romo benefits. And this is where I really wanted to spend this was the whole time I was like talked about this, and we're going to get there. This was the part I was so excited about it's like have you like when you eat a burger and you eat around the, like top round levels, and you have a bite. It's just the middle. You know that you've carved out I'm talking about. And then you did a perfect, that part in the, the Waterberg catch-up container in fits perfectly. This is that by. So I know this is a weird take. And if you're listening, don't get pissed off. Just just trust me. I really believe that romo's for lack of a better word legacy benefited from losing those games because he, he like, now, it's this case of almost, you know, you can't prove, what didn't happen, you can't, you know, you could say man, if, if, if he hadn't gotten hurt in Washington, he would it be eagles, and then they would have gone, they would have done this and it's. Came to this conclusion when I was doing. I did a what if on one of the penalty against Anthony Hitchens is never picked up. Right. What if that penalty stands, and then the Cowboys were they never even go to Green Bay? And if they never go to Green Bay, I think that romo's legacy is much small because that's the ultimate he was robbed game. And so if Romo you know wins those three division titles, I think his legacy is hindered because I think if he doesn't get stuff done in the playoffs, then it becomes. Yeah. Cool, we know we're the Cowboys though we don't play for division titles. So what he wanted a couple NFC's things. Yeah. I have those caps in my closet, I mow the yard in them. But I, I wanna see some Super Bowls. You know what I mean? Like I actually believe it hinders his legacy in a very unique way. Yeah. No, it's hard to disagree with that, because that was my line of thinking when, you know, he would have more credibility because he, he won those and therefore had planned appearances. But I mean, I think we both agree that it you know, obviously, there's completely had federal situation. So it's just, you know, continued on the hypothetical road wouldn't have significant more playoff victories, Zo would wouldn't he would in essence created his own legacy, based on actually, as opposed to just the, the legacy of the unknown and know what it'd be played in that winter golf game after getting injured in the Washington game or you know, you're right? I mean it's so much of robo in the debate about Romo centers on what if moments and there's as many, you know what if the sort of positively impacted them as the negativity which brought up in the Detroit game and that was that was the weird fear, because that was the disease year where each team was inflicted with the disease, and then they gave it to. The next team you're after because the the week after it was the Cowboys Detroit start with the disease 'cause Troy disease when they top that Hitchens Hitchens play. And then obviously the, the disease of. Yeah, the does catch, we don't have, you know, that happened. And then I remember how the Packers lost. Crazy imploded. It was like they had the onsite kick that touched their player and in there was it was it was like literally like eight things that if they don't all happen. The Packers go to the Super Bowl. The addle and then Seattle Pete Carroll's, non cotton. His throw instead of go marshawn Lynch ultimate disease in that in that season. So, yeah, I mean I agree with you completely. I think Gareth legacy is so much more not. I mean nothing changes you still the coach the Cowboys, we just buy more because he had consecutive division titles. But now he's the coach. And we're like I mean he's one of a little bit. He's he's one of about a regular season games, but he's just not a good playoff coach but Romo I think you're right about Romo. He's like sees is actually impacted in a positive way and negative way in our view because I like what you said. And again that's that's why you're all right? Because I think it's hindered by actually, so this is a weird comparison, but I feel like like Romo so, so the, the fact that Romo didn't windows, three and we're just looking at this specific three a window is like, and I know this didn't happen to you because you're all right? But like if you were in high school and the girl, you were like in love with in high school. You never asked out right? Like, and so now you just look back. Like what if I had asked her out like I would've won her over, and we would have gone to college together, and we had a great time, we would have gotten married in, like, I would, you know, my whole life, her whole life would be totally different. And you can, you can convince yourself you can romanticize that thought versus if you actually asked her out in high school, and then yeah, maybe she agreed to go. I was you. And then she thought you were weird site release again that wouldn't happen to you. But, you know, and then you're, you're met with the reality that it actually wasn't enough. But because, you know, romo's Cowboys from eleven to thirteen were not net with that reality. You can romanticize it as much as you want. Yeah. I wanna take your metaphor a little bit further. So you either you get sick on the day that you were supposed to ask her out of you're going, gee, worked up, courage to it. He get sick it stayed home. And instead, she got asked by by some other dude that she ended up dating. And then marrying, right. And or you got to ask her out on a day. She's like he's weird. And then you, you never you know you never nothing would have done it and failed as opposed to never having done it, and then never got the opportunity because it was too late because it's some weird thing, the gun away in one day, timing, just didn't work out for you and it worked out for somebody else. And, and that's why if Garrett wasn't the Cowboys head coach I think we could apply this to him today. But you're right. That, like what's different for him. Nothing. I mean just that, you know, he's maybe not disrespected, as much like that's the Big Ben of that. Did we? Maybe we're like oh, yeah. It makes it makes. Sense that he's still there coach. He won division, title, three years, that's important as our it's like, we don't know why you still the coach could better, I guess. But I'll tell you what, what made me realize this for Romo and it involves a game from that twenty thirteen season over last week. And I wrote something at the site, and it was just it was just like encourage discussion. There was what Cowboys game the last five years were you, not at that you wish you could have been, you know, like what game was awesome that you wish you could have seen whatever and the five year stretch was twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen and in spite of that, and I listed all these recommendations, I was like this was awesome this game, and I listed all these winds, and there were so many comments that are like I wish I was at the twenty thirteen game against the Broncos and I didn't list any losses in and this was outside of the window that I specified, but people actually saying that they wish they could have been at this loss. And the reason is because that's the ultimate romantic, you know, like daydream you can have you can go to that game, and you can tell yourself o- of Romo. Won that game he would have been regarded as this and you can live in the if versus you know but because it's so much easier than even if they'd want that game hypothetically. I think people would have just said, yeah, Romo had a cool game one time in whatever. But because it didn't have you say, if he had one then people would be saying, insert, whatever you want. Yeah. No, it's true. And it's that's such like that's the perfect cures characterization of Romo. And his greatness is, you know, you had to kind of cover it in the margins and you know, sometimes greatness is so easily defined and it's so like Tom Brady great. You know, I don't have to tell you why you know why it but sometimes it's, it's better, when or maybe I wouldn't say better, but it's, it's, it's, it's just more appealing or is a better pay off when you sort of have to figure out the right nece and uncover it in the market. And I think that's that's rumble career. You know it is it's, it's he had a great career. He was a great player. It was a great quarterback is in my opinion. They hold of fame quarterback will never, ever ever, get hall of fame and so much of his his greatness is is has to be uncovered in the margins. It's not evident, it's not always there, but it was there if you were paying attention to it, and he's ES. Fakes variant tragedy. I mean you really about this years ago, and he really is Shakespeare in tragedy. And so therefore, his ending was perfectly Shakespearean and not in the same way that people wanted to romanticize about him going coming back or winning a championship. It was perfect. He was he was he was the perfect option for this team. They built the perfect team around him and the great offensive line. Great running game. Great wide receiver pretty, you know, a decent adequate enough defense. And by the time it was all her thickly in place for him. He was gone Cyrano who got soon owed. Yeah. Yeah. I. I think there are a lot of great comparisons. I think what it is the fan experiences. It's like when you I've never actually, I think I've never been to like a magic show and I feel like I'm missing out in life. If you've ever been well, like I've never been to Vegas once when I just turned twenty one. So I had other goals, I mean it wasn't like let's go see David Copperfield or whatever. But like have you been to like like I'm envisioning like a like you wear a suit, that's like three times too large, and you go get like a cigar? And like a cocktail and you sit down for this like magic show in the guy like steals your watch. Have you been to one of those? No. I, I mean, I think I what the magic shows like when I was six, like kids birthday parties. Yeah. No, I that. Okay. The point is, you know what I'm talking about, like the legit magic shows. But you know how when somebody does a really very magic trick going to those. Some people are like I don't wanna know how he did it like I don't I don't wanna know. I'm rather? Right. I'd rather believe in the magic. And that's what I think these three years, are, like with regards to Roma, like, I don't wanna know what happened if you know, because it's it's easier to believe in the magic like this. What happened that would have happened etcetera versus you know? Oh, they lost the falcons in the first shot and they lost the Seahawks and loss of the saints. And so they were just this team that lost in the first round, and that sucks versus you can believe in whatever you wanna believe. Yeah. No, I completely agree. I well said, there's so much more that we can do with the unknown. And, and when it's known, you know, there's nothing early say about it. We know that happened. We was that let was and, and it still. Amazes me still amazes me that was three consecutive years against three different teams that were all played week, seventy and it was like it was almost like going into twenty fourteen you can say, okay, who are they going to be playing championship week, seventeen that's going to be I it is amazing? I mean, the number of things that the had to break. Right. It is Shakespearean in many ways. I, I remember you saying that you were you were hip to that before anybody else, and I'll give you credit for this. And I did when I wrote about it. You are hip to Dan Bailey being a crutch before anybody else. I will never forget that when you win. Like, what if what if Dan Bailey is kind of like ruining? Jason garrett. And I, I was like what, what are you talking about? But then I was like, wait a minute. That's actually brutal. I appreciate you saying that, and I have I have piggybacked like a million different brilliant, ideas, do too many of which I can't even remember so a good trade off, you know, million to one. Here's the other. Here's the most interesting parts. Okay. So twenty different about the giants if if the Cowboys win that twenty twelve which different about, you know the Redskins if the Cowboys when that twenty thirteen what's different about the eagles. If the Cowboys win that how about twenty fourteen because Jason Garrett is still with the Cowboys but he's not if they don't make the playoffs at twenty fourteen. That's really interesting. I, I wonder then if if you live in that what if. Like say they still win the division. Let's say the win that have been pile off for years, because they were theoretically capable of for four years in a row and say that the previous what if I mentioned, Anthony Hitchens, one say that, that, that what if lives out and the flag stays down Anthony's penalized? The Cowboys lose that game then it becomes this matter of. Okay, dude. Yeah, you've won four straight division titles. And that was his contract year but you haven't won a playoff game. We have to move on. That would have been incredible. If you think about the fact that he won one division, title and playoff game in. That was actually enough to earn a playoff game. But if you shift the narrative in saying, will give him four division titles, and no playoff wins that might have actually gotten fired. That's really fascinat-. It is. Especially when you think of picked up flag. Yup. Picked up flag could be the difference between Garrett still being the coach and not being coach and who would be their coach. If it wasn't Jason Garrett. You know, twenty fourteen or twenty fifteen I should say was. You know, I'm trying to remember who the hot higher was in two thousand fifteen. I made that point, Bruce area and said already moved on. Maybe maybe that would have been, Jerry finally said, if we're if we're building our own hypothetical on why shouldn't we they've won four division tiles haven't wanna playoff game. Let's get Sean Payton in here. You know, we're, we're knocking on this door. It's time we need the guy's gonna take us to the next level. Here are the coaching hires in two thousand fifteen okay? I'm gonna be sports Illustrated's great on them after they were made Gary kubiak, Gary kubiak Denver Broncos to be. It's according to Sports Illustrated, I agree. This is going to be my favorite John FOX. Sports Illustrated gave him Abe. Zim. Tom sue was hired by the forty divers. And that was a deep laws, rightfully so Jack del Rio was hired by the raiders. Todd Bowles by the jets. Rex Ryan hired by the bills of God. It's it's a good. Literally, all those coaches have been fired since. Well, Gary kubiak was not fired. Okay. He he wanted Super Bowl and then had a lot of drama. I gotta tell you, if I had to pick one of those, I would are just in terms of my guests not my preference. It would have been Todd Bowles or Jack del Rio. I think that's what have been for the ass. Yeah. Toppled since he was in Dallas, and it was kinda like his time and Jack del Rio because he played for the Cowboys and you gotta have a coach play for the college rule. That's, that's the way open. So William, and this was, this was exactly what I wanted to be so good job on Twitter at I've heard you say this times are sports. A our is sports, because it used to be our attempt in what was the sort used to get mail or what was it? Like what, what have people are very confused by my last name, 'cause should have a peanut, and it sounds like it has a pin it, but it doesn't there's no me in my last name. So I was trying to make it easier to find me and follow mazes since people would constantly tweet at are attempting with the p. So, yeah, that, that's a plus I'm the only to about sports. That's true, my favorite Ari. And so, unfortunately, you're a Kansas fan that's a lot for you. But, but yeah, so 'cause you talk big twelve right? What can I listen to that? Plug yourself. Plug it all up. Big twelve this morning on Sirius XM channel three seventy five. It's a lot of fun. I mean, we talked mostly football because football drives the bus so a lot of Texas football out of Oklahoma football and very little Kansas football messes to laugh and joke at them. So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's a great time if you have Sirius XM make sure and check it out, three seventy five seven ten every morning, and then they replay it throughout the day because the show is that good. And then, you know, I'm I am so pumped so pumped for the Cowboys season start will have the post game show, and one of five three, the fan, of course, across Dallas Cowboys greater network and look, I'm excited about this season. I think this is this is really, really talented team. And I think as much we talked about Garrett like this is it like I live, which really believe this is it that if they don't get to the NFC championship game. You know, they don't get real progress that he's out. And you know, maybe the own. Only the only thing that gets in that way, would be an injury to Dak Prescott. He's literally the only player that I think you'd get her share that would change that mass other than that no other player get hurt and save Jason Garrard's job. So I mean this is it, you know, and this is what God was fans who do they get maybe on pay? They're gonna get Lincoln Riley. I don't think Lincoln Riley is gonna make himself available. So and he would, honestly if I if I could pick one guy do the next coach Cowboys, it would be Lincoln Riley would not be showing paid, which people think the crazy for. But I know what Sean Payton ceiling is. I don't know at Lincoln, Riley ceiling. It's so it would be Lincoln, but man Sean Payton would be good. But here's here's the other part. It's not just that, that might depress Cowboys fans because it's like, well, then you get a Sean, that's workout, but he's I think Sean Payton's tied directly to drew Brees. It breathes retires. And Sean Payton would come here because he'd have a much better opportunity, not leaving it drew Brees doesn't retire, but owns has been. His learned at the feet of Bill Parcells. Yes. And that this team and the talent on this team reflection of that, right? Jerry in Bill Parcells two reasons. One to build a new stadium and to, to give Stephen Jones the best possible internship. He could possibly have and Stephen smart enough that he took complete advantage that internship, and he's turned the Cowboys into this team as Bill Parcells would have had. He still been with them. So I kind of extend that and say, all right, we'll go find a coat go find the young coach go, go. And, and, you know, don't come down from GM and become the head coach Steven, but goes to go find a good young head coach beat, you know, take the Bill Parcells piece to the next level. So I have faith that he can. I do I have the can because what he's done, basically taking full control of this franchise is, is nothing short of mazing given where it was. That's fair. That's really exciting de ever worry as my last question that 'cause you're the voice of the post game show that people associate their moods. With your voice like if the Cowboys lose a really tough game that like they hear your voice in. It's kinda like what who is that? Like that's like social experiment, where they like train, the dog, the Salva, whatever they're, they're like emotions are trained to your voice. Dogs. You're Pavlov's dog, but for like emotional, you have a you have interest, love you. I didn't ever think of it that way, but now I will every single game. But look, I hope it's catharsis you know, because that's when our team loses, especially in football where they play once a week, we all wanna come together and, and bit sorry to swear on your your your podcast, but that's it. We all our team loses. The only thing we want to do is just be with, like minded people who just want to bitch, and moan and complain. I there I cost again sorry. But so that's what I hope. That's what I hope post game is what I used to when I when I used to hosting a talk show every day you wanna be thoughtful and even my even keeled and you wanna give good nuance. But when you host the post game show, I mean, it's just like let rip, you know, this guys to blame and that guys to blame let's be upset. And so I think there's catharsis in that. Well, then, then, that's the emotion to associate with us, you're, you're there. You're there, shrink your there a psychologist you're there Pavlov. That's really what you're. So. Ari tempted on Twitter at our exports from one fan Sirius XM and most importantly, from your heart is you. All right. Thanks a lot. RJ you the best. Big ups once again to already ten from one five three, the fan and Sirius XM for taking some time to join us loved that conversation. I, I know I mean this has been a great week. I've really enjoyed these conversations exploring what if I know this one had a bit more of a negative twist than the previous ones we discussed, and I know that the miles lost surly very negative, but this is fascinating. I do. Absolutely believe that as weird as it sounds. Tony romo's legacy is heightened by so many of these losses. Unfortunately, then if he had one, these games, that's just kind of the way sports tend to work because you can't prove what you can't prove, you know, you can always say that would have happened in you're not wrong because nobody can prove that incorrect. So shot again, to Ari shot up to you for listening and an extra special shadow to you. By the way, if you subscribe to the blog on the boys podcast feed wherever you get podcasts and particularly special shot to you. If you also leave us a rating and ride a review that w-. Would that'd be great. That would help us out a lot. Like I said, we will be back on Friday with our final. 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