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109: Conscious Couture, Encouraging Sustainability Among Fashion Houses, + The Future of Textiles | Red Carpet Green Dress, Suzy Amis Cameron + Samata

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109: Conscious Couture, Encouraging Sustainability Among Fashion Houses, + The Future of Textiles | Red Carpet Green Dress, Suzy Amis Cameron + Samata

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I advocate a lot about just giving people grace and practicing gratitude and I do have a lot to be thankful for right now especially as the world is facing a health crisis. But I'm working on giving myself. Some grace for policing are Tuesday episode on a Friday night. Thank you for your patience and your understanding and your willingness to hang out with me here today. I appreciate you and I'm really happy to be today's episode because it was a conversation that I love love love. We're speaking with Suzy. Amis CAMERON AND SAMATA RED CARPET. Green dress one of my very very favorite role model organizations bringing sustainable fashion to the public. I this is going to be a great one for you to listen to because it was really fun and easy and I felt like I learned so much from Susan's Samata in the way that my cool smart friends with t things. They are both so kind and warm and also brilliant in a way that is understandable and attainable and make sustainability feel personal while also very very forward thinking red carpet. Green dress is a woman led global change baking organization from moment to movement bringing sustainable design to the forefront of the conversation an action within the Fashion Industry. Red Carpet. Green Dress is celebrating. Its eleventh year this year. It is the campaign that brings sustainable fashion to the red carpet award season most notably the Oscars the Academy Awards but throughout the year. They're making high fashion more. Eco conscious red carpet. Green Dress was conceived by Ms Cameron. She's an actress and environmental advocate. The author of Oh md. One meal a day. The simple plant based program to save your health saver waistline and save the planet. She's also the wife of James Cameron famed filmmaker and environmentalist. Fun Fact Attack was the first movie that made me cry but anyway Suzy Cameron was on a press tour with James Cameron for the film Avatar. And that's when red carpet green dress was truly conceived. Samata is the CEO of Red Carpet Green Dress and she is a brilliant gang powerhouse of influence on the fashion industry. It is the coolest thing to have a three way conversation because they both have such interesting connections and contributions to the fashion space. We all speak a bit more about that. Inception point of how this campaign came to be during conversation. The goal of red carpet. Green dress is to draw attention to the importance of more sustainable fashion practices and be a part of bringing those solutions to a global market. Red Carpet. Green trust recently launched an ego couture textile range in partnership with tensile. Lux bringing innovative biodegradable solutions to the fashion industry. We talk a little bit more about this. Brilliant New Partnership and its adjacent design contest towards the end of our episode. Their work engages designers fashion houses talent celebrities artisans textile manufacturers every crucial piece of the equation bringing a look to the red carpet. Plus they're creating internships and work experiences and opportunities for emerging designers so bringing that next generation of fashion minds into the mentality of starting with sustainability. Their previous campaigns are really cool because they spotlight specific issues in the fashion industry like using recycled plastic textiles on a red carpet dress to highlight the issue of trash waste or outside of the finished dress products. Red Carpet Green Dress has also brought together. Heads of global fashion houses with environmental organizations like Greenpeace red carpet. Green dress is truly a solutions focused campaign organization a movement red carpet. Green dress actually started as a design contest and that on its own intends to challenge designers to create an Oscar worthy dress made entirely of sustainable materials while actors wearing those dresses advocate a message of sustainability and longevity within the global fashion industry. We speak about specific talent in this episode. That has worn their gowns and I will be sharing on our instagram page. Some of those mentioned actors and dresses and innovative designs. That being said make sure you pop on over and follow us on instagram. At Eco Chic. Podcast we are also on facebook and now I'm personally on twitter. You can sign up for our newsletter at totally go chic dot com and that's also the site for little shop. If you'd like to support the show. If you like this episode you can rate and review on Apple podcasts. And subscribe wherever you listen to shows so you never miss an episode of Echo Sheet. I am very very honored and thankful for this opportunity to speak with suzy and Samata red carpet. Green Dress is an organization that I have personally admired for years. I love what they do. And I have so so much respect and appreciation for the way they're making sustainability not only attractive but beautiful and iconic and historic making ECOCONSCIOUS FASHION. The new standard of couture. I highly encourage everyone to look through some of their previous collaborations. You can find them on. Their site are C. GD Global Dot Org. Which will be linked in the show notes? I will also have additional information on Suzy's Oh md one meal a day initiative in the show notes. We talk a little bit about that towards the end of the episode. And the reason that you can be so passionate about fashion and food where that connection truly lies. The show notes are packed with good references and resources for you as always so with all of that. Let's get into the episode. Welcome Suzy Cameron and Samata of red carpet green dress. We are speaking all about conscious tour encouraging sustainability among fashion houses and the future of textiles. So I am really excited to have you both here. Suzanne Samata because I love red carpet green dress. I really love what you guys do and I would love to just like jump right into the conversation and talk a little bit about sustainable fashion and specifically just sustainable red carpet fashion. What is it look like today? And what does that really mean at the basic level for? Y'All for us. I think this campaign ready sauteed with the red carpet moment that suzy had when she was attending the Oscars with her husband and being such a conscious on of women. She was aware that you know this is a question. I'm going to be off. What are you wearing? What are you wearing and I think it was just seven inciteful that she decided to take that question intent on its head and make it a conversation about fashion and the role that fashion plays in you know essentially polluting being impact on the environment and so that was kind of the premise of how it began. It's like this beautiful design on the red carpet but like what is the story behind the study design. What is the what are the implications of people who are passionate about sustainability and when it comes to red carpet design so when I think about that moment it was really a really amazing beautiful example of a design that used Lucien Sanchez Satisfied silks on recycled linings. But it was the beginning it was like the opening of the bulks around. What sustainable design on the red carpet could look like and that's evolved so much to be a very deep and he wants to conversation. I mean how. How do you like you that fast? Red Carpet moment in that dress. Well when we decided to do the dress design contest. I just thought that it was going to be a breeze. A No brainer and what? We found out very quickly. Was that finding sustainable. Fabrics was not the easiest thing in the world. Deb Scott who won the Oscars for Costume Design for Titanic? She was actually the one who built the dress and two days. After we announced our winter she came to me. You know with this look on her face and took my shoulders instead. I can't find fabric and I said what do you mean? You can't find fabric. And she said we'll I have found this tabart cold peace silk which is sustainably sourced silk. And where they don't. Don't boil the the worms but what she found out. Was You know? They weren't boiling the worms. But what they were doing. They were using children to harvest the silk from the worms with their nimble sweet little fingers and giving them SL- slingshots to kill the birds trying to eat the worms so all of a sudden it became it went from this environmental issue to a social issue and we did ultimately find a company that was making peace silk Not using children and their or their slingshots. So you know you don't turn it out. It all turned out. Okay and each year. It's gotten incrementally easier to source fabric. And then there was a exponential jump probably. I don't know two three years ago where people were really getting hip to the idea of A. We don't have to you know completely. Destroy our our land or our waterways yet to make a beautiful dress and this past year. I have to say as you know even more excited. Now I'm GonNa WanNa talk about our new partnership which is really exciting. But it's gotten so much easier and people really are interested in more sustainable and I. The word sustainable. It's it always is a vaccine for me Because we don't want to sustain fashion as was at all so we want to reinvent the way we are creating fashion and people are more interested in all my children. They just WanNa go shopping at the thrift store which is one of the best ways of just reusing reusing things but you know this idea of clothing on our bodies. It's when you pull that string you know on your favorite sweater. And it's like Oh my favorite better is going away or you peeling back an onion. You know there are layers to this because there's also the fact that there are closed we wear that we exercise in intimates. Whatever they might be it actually for way they are died the way they are milled. Ba- chemicals that they used for that are actually seeping into our skin. Which is our largest organ and they are highly detrimental to our health whether they're cancer causing or integration disruptors. It's not just about a pretty dress on carpet. It really is about the fact that we all wear clothes every day. And how are we going to do that in a conscious way? I love what says he just said because what she also kind of touched on is like the different lenses through which we view sustainable fashion on the red carpet. You know so she gets. She gave the example of the first year where we had a whole struggle to find textiles and what depth Scott Enthusiast. Jillian went through to finally oatley find a sedition. What but like every single year. Not Cop it like we are constantly trying to show that there are nuances to this compensation you get it from the lens of kind of no wasted set. Can you connect it through the Lens of satisfied materials? That have that stamp. From what godsend who those other ones. You can look at cradle-to-cradle you can look at it from the perspective of like the dies you know. We worked with Greenpeace for a couple of gallons and really focused on botanic dies but every single year we a- Kane short that fashion and I'm with Susie on this whole thing about wanting to sustain fashion but sustainable fashion has many definitions to a global audience. And so we need to include that audience in our dialogue with these designs. That we're kind of using as a showcase for it and not just look at only focusing on vintage only focusing on natural dyes because that one solution is not going to cure the entire problem. It's moving all of the different solutions food or at least showcasing them on our platform to let people know that there are options out there and you should be flexible. I'm an open to learning about these different options. You know yes absolutely. And I like what you mentioned about the global audience and bringing people into the conversation. I like the idea that it's not just about shopping. Vintage or using botanical dies a lot of options under this quote unquote sustainable couture umbrella and I would love to hear a little bit about the response from the individuals that are wearing these gowns that are wearing these red carpet fashion designs. You said it's gotten easier in the last few years to actually create the designs. How have you felt like the response has changed from the people who are actually wearing these things on the carpet? Are they coming to you? Are you prompting them to choose a sustainable dress? What does that process? Look like in that conversation. Since we've been through it we've been accurately said at the beginning it was it was like a tussle In the beginning conversations behind the scenes to get people to understand that a they WANNA look a hot mess. You know be that it was going to be relevant. See you know all of these issues. People had around. What is that? What does that mean? What's IT GONNA look like and it was really difficult? In the beginning I would say that having the conversations with the talent it was it was always been wet then learning about this. They're very open to learning about it but it wouldn't be something I would say. In the beginning they were clued up about ready. Yeah Yeah I know what about this? I can hit the running. It was an educational process for me very fortunate that the talent we've worked with have been open to learning about this. As soon as he said. In the beginning getting the talent compensation's going was very difficult. Even some of the fashion houses apart from Vivienne Westwood the beginning who we'd wet with so many times and she they got it so quickly. In the beginning it was hard to get other fashion brands to kind of have the conversation with us because they feared backlash about well. When doing this. It's not enough me. Don't WanNa get kind of down. We're doing a tiny thing so there's a lot of challenges it's not just the talent it's with the designers and all of that but over the years it's got easier and like susie said. I would say about two years ago. Three years ago we were in the very reverend fortunate position where people are coming to us even before the Oscars. We'd love to be considered for like next year. We'd love to these people forward and say that's easy a- and a question about the talent people send talent has really kind of absorbed in a different way like. Priyanka purrs for example. He was incredible. Indian act chips in Lyon and I think it could be a cultural thing from India in very much being Of Design Community. She really appreciated the craftsmanship elements. If things in. It's something. She actually applies in her own life. Like shopping with autism often questions about whether clothings may to she was very include up private. Say and then other people have just been about not knowing but being interested in it. And that's been really refreshing. We really open to that as well. Because we have to be willing to share what we know not make people feel like they can't ask a question you know right right that makes sense because a lot of this is also on the educational side of it and as you continue to educate the talent. These people are in turn bringing it to their audiences. So I think it's one of those great like force multiplication type educational opportunities which I think is really really cool. Yeah and I would say that. Like one of the people that really kind of gave me a luxury in my heart and I knew CICI's the ambassadors but for me personally excited when we had Lockheed stanfield because he speaks to the whole of the community and having him on boards. And I'll take your lighting kind of message. I just found it very very uplifting. Because he's bringing in a whole lot audience as well the AUSTAT. You wouldn't necessarily pay attention to red carpet fashion in that way to me. That was a snow cone of joy. Plus he's Super Fun. He was very much serious. Yeah Yup Yeah. He was lost. I love that I love that and Susie. Do you have a favorite like talent acquisition? That you've had recently in recent years that you've been so proud to have them on board you know it's so funny as we've gone along. I think every year I'm like oh my gosh. They're so amazing. They're here and we're all working together and then it's like the next year. Oh my gosh. It's so amazing. They're here they're you know so we've had. I just think across the board. It's just been such a positive experience and getting to know these people and some of them have been really clued in to sort of that ecoconscious way of living other really heaven. But then they've come into our world been educated on it and they have taken off and made changes in their lives because of being surrounded by people that walk the walk. So it's really hard to put my finger on one specific person. I think it's hot. I know it really is. It was so fun working with Vivienne Westwood. Because she's she's so she walks the walk. This woman rides her bicycle through one done at nine. Pm At night or later we were. Yeah we were there for dinner and I WANNA say it was early February and she showed up for dinner at nine o'clock very with her cheeks very pink because she'd been riding her bicycle across London so she's quite a character in amazing and way ahead of the game and then the having the pleasure and honor of being able to work with leaving. Tom Was ner team. Was there so open than so fresh and they were so eager actually. They loved the challenge of it which was really fun to watch. So we've just been blessed with these people that have come into our world. Yeah yeah it sounds like it and I think I like the idea of presenting this as a challenge for designers because it kind of is in a sense it forces you to really rethink your supply chain and your design process and how you're truly constructing a look. Yeah I think the idea of a challenge is a really cool way to put it for fashion houses and that also brings me to ask you a little bit about the supply chain more back end process of red carpet green dress. So I'd love to talk to you. A little bit about textiles about how these raw materials are really being sourced and getting to the fashion houses. And what is the back end of all of this look like I enjoy it? Because no two years of the same an initiative. That was something that you'd probably think. Oh that must be quite fatiguing. Because you don't know what to expect but it just means that we just learned so much and we've been so jaw had to be quite dynamic because no two years of the same so if we think about like the supply chain because ultimately creating if we look at just the Oscars project because bicarbonate green dress is his all around kind of organization. It's your we have activities collaborations that we do outside of the Oscars but they asked us. It's going to be one two or three dresses and Tuxedo suit. You know so. We're looking alternately. Creating three four pieces that are going to be worn on this red carpet. And so sometimes we've approached it with the fashion house weather. They've been very transparent with us and said look you know. We don't know where to begin with sourcing. These texts like see said at the beginning deb. Scott was like what we do and that was very much a collaborative process that Like trying to find the peace solution without the search responsibility issues and challenges other years we as an organization who do spend like a lot of time throughout the year looking for solutions will be able to present to fashion houses in. Say A so. We've short-listed these textiles. These textile manufacturers. That we've kind of gone had conversations with and present them with options so we don't always expect the fashion houses to kind of step to us with textiles and that's changing a lot in the future. We can talk about that so it. It's very much different. Each year like the year that we worked with the keys. That was incredible because the brown themselves had just had so much of time researching the two silk. You know something that they'd actually specialized in trying to find the solution to that. She said we've got this incredible solution and then as an organization. We have to bet that and I'm just talking about Texoma by now. You've aware that we look at everything we look at the materials we look at the textile waste. We look at the chemical usage so we need to evaluate the die processes educations for that. She never if they've already so some years we'll have to see the certificates full house the spend died of whereas it been died on. Who's died did of years. We actually brought in local businesses to die. The textile ourselves we. What within incredible natural die specialist in London? Kuda dying art and actually there's another one in the UK to do Naomie Harris's dress and that was died with Golden Rodman Camera. So sometimes we'll pull in our own kind of community to bring them on board on the projects so we look at the dies. We look at the facilities within which processes is taking place. So is that kind of usher approved. Whatever those need to be and then the transparency element show. We're quite proud because we can say that for all of our pieces we can be very transparent about who's touched them. His made them whether textiles come from what the die was all of that but like I said these one of pieces. So you're not talking about fashion houses putting outlook product every like other day. We're looking at kind of these one of pieces of being made and making sure that we can provide that. I think you could call it an would it unequally full for those pieces that can hold. You know some attested time an answer. The questions that need to be answered about them so it's really different each year. That's why I kind of try and give examples of how we've approached it all the different years but I can kind of dive into more specifics if you'd like if there's like a specific focus you'd like to share with the yeow. Will I think that you definitely cover a lot of ground? I think the idea of an echo audit is a really good way to put it. Because you're right. It's not a full collection that you have to say where all of these pieces coming from. And how are they being sourced? It's one piece and in a sense that gives you a good grasp of the details of where we eventually need to go where we hope to see fashion in multiple decades. So I think the topic of waste is interesting to me just because I feel like when you say waste. This wasn't something that was like initially on my mind when I was first looking at some examples of the looks that you've supported. I was thinking about waste because I believe the statistic is something like the fashion industry is the second most polluting industry in the world after oil. I think that the topic of waste in red carpet looks is really interesting because in theory if you are putting together a really intricate piece. I have to imagine that there would be a lot of waste associated with that. So what does that part of it is waste big topic for Y'all in the audit process? Yeah so it's interesting. You ask about that because red carpet fashion. I think is quite A. It's quite a controversial subjects and that was really fantastic school at www obstacle myspace. Around the fact that when you get to read copy season you know. There's a lot of moving. You've got stylist traveling. You know across continents shipping. Lots of gowns for like that talent ultimately wear one and there's a lot around how red carpet fashion can be called contributing to waste not just physical literal tangible Wasilla Senate Textiles will all have the trial. Was the guy through to ultimately land on one gown you know like trying different colors on the tax so trying different cops all of that stuff that you're doing something spoke in the new ultimately. Say this is what we're going with. You've got tangible waste. And then you've got maybe the intangible ways which is somebody flying look across the world to like with a suitcase of guns for example and is that the most effective way to push message right can. I think there are nuances to waste. If that makes sense which I hope it does yes. It does right so when we look at like specific red carpet. Green dress me. Look at the text always of course so it's strange because when we work with Michael Badger. He's gone in and it's pretty interesting when we discuss waste coach really that it was an inherent thing to him like this whole idea of zero waste because culturally from a country. Ghana like myself wack when you textiles. You really don't waste any like even you make your address and the offcuts have a typically used for a headband ahead. Wrap a bag. Like the idea of wasting is almost counter to design so he grasped that really quickly so some years. We've watched people that understand the technical side of not wasting textiles and they get it really really easily. We do Kinda fake some not as well but then also with red carpet green dress these pieces of being made bespoke so we on doing a kind of trial and error ultimately see fit like. There's a sketch that's made AMANITA. We focus on the sketch element fest and kind of get sign off with that before the production side of it even begins and so in another way it's not presenting talent with like four or five different options in saying you choose one these made few to where it's making one bespoke piece. That's been kind of analyzed on landed on before construction even begins which I think is really important. Because behind scenes of red carpet dressing that votes types of made a nothing happens to them that made the tried on discarded. Because they weren't right so we don't do that either. Then we also look at encouraging all of the brands designers. We've quits to either use recycled old archive will textiles. Said when you're talking about the lining with something like that zips the buttons. We've done focuses on vintage us when exists is one of the things that we say. Incorporate that into a design web possible. So you're not also wasting so that's another thing that we try and do and then I think the thing I think is quite important with red carpet. Fashion waste is. I think what happens to the peace is often for us but quite fortunate because all of these beautiful gowns have been created. Ginette very much still Paul Aukai and the pieces that we plan to repeat will be repeated in the future sees a couple of the dress red coffee futures events said just reintroducing them and showing that being once does not the end of that each conversation is another way that we try and make sure that we're not part of a conversation that promotes waste. So I think those are just some of our approaches to how we try and tackle it. Yeah I like the idea of normalizing repeating an outfit. Yeah I think that's something that the fashion industry is definitely slowly becoming more open to and I think that in the last few award seasons we've seen a lot of that like the one that comes to mind immediately. Is Jane Fonda? Yahu reward address from ten fifteen years prior which I think is so cool and then I like the idea of also using these outfits and using these pizzas as archival parts of history that we can really see sustainable fashion evolving over time. I think that also the idea of museums like we look at the met that is so open to the fashion industry. Clearly you have entire museum collections. That are showcasing really beautifully. Made pieces really appreciating the entire design process. That goes into one particular dress one particular. Look I think that's really important and I like the idea of looking at them not only as an archive but as a piece of art and looking at it as something that we can go back to as historical reference almost absent. I love when you say that we took about the Robert Stress that was from Omanis fast from collection and we talk about the kind of the beating on the autism skills that went onto dewick dress. You know again. It's just. It's focused on craftsmanship and ultimately like treasuring things that people have taken time to make. That's why the story around the piece is really important. Because when you build a story you build an emotional connection and then there's this desire to kind of keep that connection and we want people to take that into their homes. I mean Susie. You really took me beginning about like do you? Like your Levi's early items that you've had just lost it and there's like an emotional connection that. Oh yeah totally in fact just I don't know maybe it was two three weeks ago because my kids are like. Oh man five one leave as awesome as and you WANNA see how awesome they really are and I pulled out my five ones from high school and I put him on there like Oh dude man. Those are so dope so there you know and then the next thing you know so we were like looking for vintage five. Oh One online for them to get because we can't you know actually go to thrift store right now I think making those making those investments and things I have cashmere sweaters from when I was seventeen. Eighteen nineteen years old. And if you buy something of quality and you just take really good care of it you wear it forever. I mean I love love the idea of being able to and I you know I've said this before. I actually don't like the idea of fashion in the way we see that. It's per season. And that. If you wear it next season your biggest dork in the universe and outdated and all of stuff I mean. It is shifting because kids these days are really into like retro things and and you know used clothing or reused clothing things like that but I just love the idea of clean lines that you could wear when you're eighteen years old and you can also wear them when you're eighty one. Yeah things that are simple. I mean our money is the king of that yet. Simple clean lines that you can wear over and over and over and it doesn't matter how old you are. I think that things like that are amazing. Circling back to the stories. My favorite story about our dresses was the Vivienne Westwood dress that was died with Goldenrod. It has the gold pieces on. It are chocolate wrappers. Yeah Yeah you're kidding. No mixed in with these beautiful vintage beads. That were hand sewn into it. So you've got you know little pieces of gold foil and these gorgeous vintage beads in know hand sewn dot dress alone is I just think it's such a standout in terms of creating narrative around address the journey of it and how many hours women Sevada to quitting the beads on it? It was like hundred and something yes that would achieve interesting. You said about that was the Royal School of needlework and we're talking about like craftmanship and that kind of thing you know intensive just in appreciating Limbering that do this work. We watched the room school of needlework. Can they want the student to do that? Embroidery and it was hundreds of hours out today but it was also kind of like an off project for the students To be involved in with all winning designer Michael Badejo which was just so so lovely. 'cause it was transfer of like knowledge. It was exciting for them to that. Was Secrecy Coal. Yeah that was a favourite dress and it was Ferrari rushing rappers cycle. Yeah it was awesome. I love that talk about legs. Zero waste and him really thinking outside the box. I love that. Yeah yeah it was just amazing but I would just say the last thing on that was we believe when we talk about waste in like vintage reusing. We believe that Zombie wearing so we think about some important but we will also always said that we can't just focus on just re wearing because ultimately with recap events that will always being new items created for these events like not every single person will be wearing and actually vintage doesn't speak to everybody shape you know. That's a heraldic thing because it's created the get many copy samples for like satin body shape so buddy sizes and it's quite limiting other people that comfort into vintage because it's just not designed for that body shape so that's why we still say that we still have to talk about how we create new fashion. Because vintage isn't the solution to everything. And if we keep making fashion the way that it's being made we'll let you gonNA drown in this situation where we creating. Stuff is not sustainable. So it's like what he said at the beginning like we don't WANNA sustain fashion. How it right now. Yeah you're absolutely correct because I definitely feel the same way into. Fashion isn't always inclusive to all body shapes so not only is it not inclusive but it also doesn't always speak to people. Maybe you just don't like the vintage options that are available to you and you're totally right. It's about going to the source and making better choices to begin with so these really beautiful pieces can be reward and X. Amount of years if there is someone who is so inclined so. I think that you really are covering a lot of ground because sustainable fashion and especially when we talk about sustainable red carpet fashion it has to include all of these different things. It's it's pretty close minded actually to think that it's just about being vintage or just about thrift. Dang or just you have to think big picture. You really do 'cause like when we have these exciting compensations got talent and you know it's really good open up our minds to like represents campaign and we've what so many different people which is something we're so proud of but the year that we what with am specifically with Danielle MacDonald. We had some real conversations with her because she said like. I don't even know where I could go for sustainable fashion for my for her body shape you know. She was struggling. Has STYLUS was like I? Just don't know where to go. She was having to just be so creative address because the kind of availability was just so. That's a whole other conversation but I'm glad it's come up. You know yes absolutely and I would love to switch gears a little bit and just talk super briefly about some exciting new news that you have coming out. I'd love to hear a little bit about this upcoming partnership I will let some other elaborate on it. Because you know she's been the wonder woman who basically made it all happen but we have created a partnership with ten bucks and we now have our very own red carpet green dress textiles. And they couldn't be more sustainable. They're actually made out of wood pulp. We're so excited about it and somebody you might want to shoot talk about the first step that we're taking with yes using the fabrics. Yes like Susie said one of the things to me. That's who has just been so motivating about being Recoup it story as Susie is somebody that oversees Eugene's racial but for her. I think it's really about like it's about impact. How is what we're doing kind of moving the needle? And I think when you're talking about a platform at your skills like we so impactful in terms of the eyeballs will not carpet and the global impact campaign had been quite staggering with millions. Billions of us. But we really saw think about what is an area that we can really like lean in to make a difference and like Susie said in the beginning one of the biggest challenges that she had. With the design that depth scope facilitated was textiles and over the years. I can honestly say it's always been a bit of a challenge because you saw doing not the same thing but okay. It's the Bible Ganic Textile Standards Education K coal. We've done that. We've got a K- it's recycled plastic with dumb that but ultimately we started to that was a more sustainable option so we ended up with ten cell locks because textiles matter like clothing represents more than sixty percent of the textiles that use globally on in the last fifteen years. Claiming production has basically doubled so we have fashion industry without textiles but the impact of textiles is having on. The planet is like quite devastating. Identify some of the stocks Really non-renewable resources like ninety eight million tons per year of non-renewable resources including oil like that to me is just so staggering an overwhelming so we reached out and built a relationship o'clock so we developed our own textiles which used that really innovative for the Yon. Which is like Susie said made from wood pulp? It's from sustainably managed sources and we have these really beautiful textiles we unveiled earlier this year the Oscars so that was just you know an incredible way to start a year red carpet. Green dress started as a design contest. And we are giving up to launch off. Fast design contest in things has been four. Years will five years so we're resurrecting it way. Resurrecting it so a super excited because we're partnering with Locks on IT'S GONNA be global design contested launches next week and we will be choosing a winning gown designed him in a winning suit. Designer will be dressing to ambbassador for us. We're GONNA reveal that more about the platform etcetera later. But it's just a really exciting time because we get to engage with the global design community again who've been supporting Suzanne. And what we're doing. Right cop it amend the laws kind of exciting element is the contest. Itself is also supporting kind of two crucial industry organizations. We have the Awash Foundation in Bangladesh and the fifth pillar in my Ima. And so we're going to be directing funds to help. The government has their who've been impacted by the pandemic. So we're super excited. Congratulations that's amazing. I'm so excited to see and I feel like this is such a good time to launch that news because I feel like award season should in any other year be ramping up right about now and people are thinking more about red carpet fashion and I think that there's really a need for people wanna see this and I can't wait to watch this all unfold and just to piggyback on it a little bit too of our dresses from this season were actually made with our new fabric. Yes yes they were. I'm so the dress that to one of our combat masses when the Oscar full learning to skate in zone if garland she wore the one that was beautiful. Tensile locks cashmere blend stunning fabric. Which is biodegradable. You can expect that particular one to basically biodegrade under industrial hyme soula marine conditions within one to three years as and then the other fabric was used by baton on the red carpet for that gown which was beautiful in So they've already been introduced to the. Wow we didn't have looked so incredibly beautiful so we will be retiring as textiles later this year. Which is super coolers while that is so exciting. That's exciting again. Congratulations this is just like. I honestly can't wait to see it thinking it was good. I would love to just close off. I know we've spoken a lot about specific looks and specific fashion houses. Ellipticals optus asking all both. Is there a particular dress that you were just very much? A fan of your favorite red carpet green dress piece in recent years. This is a hard one. It's a hard question. I think I think my favorite one was the baby blue. Louis Vitton dress that Laura Harrier wrote war. Yup that was. That's my gorgeous. The use of the beating on that was just so stunning. It was so intricate. Wasn't it and just shows how breed the handmade embroidery with five Moon Paris and institute? It was breathtaking. That was incredible. I think for me my favorite one I think just for the emotional connection representing how much we've grind was Elena Elena Andrea underachiever. Who won for learning to skate in Woodson? If you ago it's not so much about you know preferring one brand over the other but it was. It was what it represented. The design was stunning. I loved that we worked with a small independent designer. Could Lure Paschi you know in La Atelli. A and I loved it. It was using textile because that was quite a special moment for me to see attack. Saw that we will be retailing. Looks beautiful on the red carpet and then to see her on stage holding her Oscar at the end of the night. And having you know what it meant to her and it was just really beautiful but to be honest I I love like the dresses for the different different reasons. Yeah Yeah Absolutely I. I completely understand that and I think that's a good way to put it that. It's representative of textile that is now being brought thankfully to market and I think it's a textile is such a smart idea because like you were saying that's one of the biggest challenges in creating a really beautiful high quality red carpet dress. It's the textiles and now here. You are not just choosing a sustainable fabric or not just choosing. You know a good green fabric. But you're doing one step more and I think that the idea of wood pulp as a textile so interesting. It's so net positive. Yeah and incredibly innovative. It really is it is I mean. It's a clue is really like closely technology. So like on the beauty is that you can trace those fine filaments to the schools is when you talk about transparency. You can do that and it's just. It's so exciting fos to to be able to do this because if you're talking about impact when you're talking about kind of the alternatives in the plastic micra fibers entering the ocean. In looking inaccessible twenty two million tonnes in the next twenty years like that needs to be nipped in the bud so being part of something that can help move not direction as super cool for us. I would just like to give the audience a little opportunity to make a difference in the world and people are always asked King because I think a lot of people get paralyzed especially right now. I mean there are a lot of silver linings as you will know because you're a climate time just a lot of silver linings to the fact that we are all inside and people aren't driving people aren't flying in you know is clear and our waterways are cleaning up and fish in the Venice canals and things like that so that's all really really positive. People get paralyzed because they don't think they can do anything really to help the environment or help climate beyond cycling. Changing your light bulbs you know. Maybe one day and it's about eating. What meal they? It's about changing only one of your meals a day to a plant based meal. And it's not about you know becoming Vegan completely although of course in a secret world I would love if if everybody did because I know the impact of but if you change if you swap out just one of your meals a day to a plant based meal one person doing that for one year will save two hundred thousand gallons of water and the carbon equivalent of driving from Los Angeles to New York so it can be something as simple as putting soy milk on your cereal instead of cow's milk having been in Veggie Burrito incentive beef burrito putting tomato sauce on your pasta instead of a cheese sauce or a meat sauce. But now they're always amazing cheeses in plant based meats. That are out there that you can use to to recreate those favorites that you might have but we talked earlier about the fact that fashion is the second leading cause of pollution in the world. The animal agriculture is the second leading cause of greenhouse gases and climate change more than all transportation combined. Car every airplane every bus every ship. Everything so you can I? Every time you sit down to have food you can either be hurting the environment by having animal products on your plate or you can be helping the environment by having clamp based options on your plate so. I put that out there as an invitation to start to make a difference. Yeah Yeah I appreciate that because I was curious to hear a little bit about the connection between food and fashion for you susie because I'm familiar with the O. Md Movement and. I think it's so interesting that you can be so passionate about both of these things. That are such huge contributors to environmental concerns that we have fashion pollution and like you mentioned animal agriculture with the greenhouse gas emissions so. I'm really glad that you put that out there for the audience because the idea of just one meal a day the idea of just doing a little bit every day for the planet being a little bit more conscious of your plate being a little bit more conscious of perhaps the clothing. You're buying whatever it may be. It doesn't have to be a huge lifestyle shift. It's just a little bit of consciousness. Yeah it's it's really it's what you put on your body and what you put in your body and you can take it to another level which you know. I have founded a school. So it's also what you're putting in your brain how you're educating yourself and your children and those kind of steps are you know. I think as an individual you can actually help make a difference and bring more consciousness into this world. I hope you really enjoyed that conversation with suzy. Ms Cameron and Samata Red Carpet. Green dress like I mentioned. I will have a bunch of links in the show for you to look more into their work. Their previous campaigns suzy's one meal a day initiative. All of that will be in the show notes as well as sharing some previous looks on instagram at Echo. She podcast also on facebook. So if you'd like to keep in touch make sure you follow this over there. Also if you are looking for more content about food and fashion and what it means to be truly ECO conscious in a high glam world so to speak to episodes ago we had the pleasure of conversing with Marcy czar off and that was also a brilliant conversation about fashion and the Echo or renaissance. And what we can learn from the organic food movement. That was just really really great. If you're looking for more content about fashion with that I hope you have an awesome day and I will see you next week for another episode of Eco. Chic thing much for hanging out and I will see you soon.

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Filmmaker JJ Abrams, cast of 'Star Wars: Skywalker' talk about the franchise's epic end

Off the Red Carpet with George Pennacchio

27:55 min | 1 year ago

Filmmaker JJ Abrams, cast of 'Star Wars: Skywalker' talk about the franchise's epic end

"This is off the Red Carpet with George Pinocchio sponsored by Mercedes Benz over one. Welcome to off the Red Carpet on George Pinocchio and today we are talking about something that began forty two years ago back in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven that is when George. Lucas introduced us to the world of Star Wars and for fans. Well I think we all know by now. They never looked back. They've been loving it all this time and now the end of the skywalker. Saga doggone brings to a close the entire nine episode series. Done in three different trilogies and the man to close out this blockbuster. Franchise Filmmaker J.J. Abrams I guess whenever I'm involved with something for a long time when it comes to an end I know that I'm GonNa miss something. What are you going to miss most about the star wars experience part of it is a challenge of doing it at all? You know saying yes as to this. I wasn't supposed to come back to to do episode nine and when Catherine Kennedy called and asked if I if I would I felt a level of fear in it I felt the challenge of it of ending this thing not just three calls nine films making a movie that works works on its own as well and it was just. It was a daunting prospect and yet that feeling of being in a kind of campaign gene you know sort of going to war every day you know how do we how do we. There's A. There's a certain kind of I dunno mentality that you bring to every day. Your costly problem solving second-guessing triple guessing inquiry. So for me are part of it will be that the obvious answer is this amazing cast. I this incredible crew. Everyone in post production. I mean I cannot tell you at the end of the movie when she does thousands of names and they were really thousands of names. Those are people who worked countless hours to make this movie and so I'm grateful to all of them. So when does it end. When did you know you had the ending right? It's a strange. I think this movie The the ending was something that was was of course very difficult to to structure and come up with and yet we did it fairly early on and oddly it was the beginning. That was the struggle and I think we we found solving that you know finding our way in post but it was. It was something that I sort of felt like for and while we had our ending so it was never really you know for a while we were a free the whole thing. And then we're less freaked out about the ending in the middle but it was a very strange Process on this one because usually the ending is it feels like is usually the biggest struggle but for this the whole movie was an ending in a in a weird way. You knew how to end it so we thought we did from you all right. You're giving me some heavy moments understand. I know you right now right now. Not Not now. Am I giving you some heavy on my vibes. You're good okay. I WanNa feel the emotions and you're going to give me. Several of them aren't aren't you. I think that I know. Is that the ambition of this movie which was always pretty enormous in terms of scope scope and spectacle scale and all that we were always conscious of the fact that none of that matters if you're not emotionally connected and if you're not feeling something and if you're going to cry you know you've got to laugh and if you're going to scream you have to care if you're going to the movie had to be this balance of of of of intimacy and spectacle but but the emotion of it is the only thing I really care about and I do think that if we did our job right you will experience the gamut including I think being being moved awesome. I'm out of time. Come on what. I'm sorry. Look it was ending up like a like a double shot. Come on you know this. And now to the cast daisy Ridley returns as the character array who continues her training and is determined to bring down the first order. All right. You're always this positive ositive light when I walk into a room to talk to you and then I hear that you're GonNa make very sad maybe watching some of this movie that it goes pretty deep this time does it does but there is a lot of joy there is a lot of joy. It's very fun. There were scenes. I'm an unusually. It's not enjoyable watching yourself but I remember NBA doing. There's a particularly with Oscar. That was so fun and with two cameras on us it was very messy and I remember doing it. How Fun it was watching? I was like that's nice. One Tissue Movie Tissue Movie Box Tissue Movie. I didn't cry during. I have only seen it once and I was more like a myself. I did cry after richly grant wept. So I think maybe a couple tissues maybe not true I wanna be surprised is when I go to see this and I started to read some of the articles and then it becomes like Blah Blah Blah because everyone who writes the articles they have a PhD in star. Wars I have a pretty good education stores. But I'm not like these super fans are you. Did you have to become one or did you just say no. I'm good with what I I now. Yeah and even like John is much more like aware of like fan conversations and I think he knows the novels and stuff like that I think for for each of us to represent Senate different sort of the Star Wars. FANDOM is great because there are people that might be watching this first star. Wars film might be watching this. That's what all of them and there's something something for everyone it's like. This beautiful story exists by itself. And then if you're a massive so it's fan there's all these other things that mean something in a historical way. so Um I'm Harrison and Kerry and mark we're forever entwined after this their star wars life was over. Is it going to be the same for your co-stars. Isn't that Nice. Yeah I mean. John said earlier I really am so lucky that it was John. Everyone else's also amazing. But AH we're both same age from London all of that source of and also just really love each other in a really lovely way and I think this could have been difficult and more isolated. I suppose if I didn't have someone to experience that with I think that you've handled this craziness with great grace but now I wanNA talk about your excitement for what's next scene because I think we need to remember that you were an actress before this and you'll be an actress long after this. Yeah I mean I'm reading great stuff I am unemployed but it's it's funny because the first time around my agent was like you. You shouldn't well actually. Jj said you shouldn't take each other films. Come out because people will see so of what you can do so I thought like it's okay. I obviously obviously don't love myself watching it but I'm proud of the work into it. So hopefully people might want employ me. When they've seen? I think there will probably got time for one. More question. A Trivia question. Because when you're waiting to do these interviews you only one star wars movie. Yeah does not Have Light Sabers in the poster. Which one is it? What's none of us? Oh maybe not phantom menace. The Empire Empire strikes one of the originals interesting because they call a big fight and that one that was a surprise Kylo Ren is also back played by Adam driver. He's the son of Han Solo and Princess Leia and he adopted his new name after turning to the dark side. Here's my interview with Adam. I come in here and I. I'm seeing you play this role or I will see it but I look at these other two movies you've gotten. I just think my gosh you can really mix it up and you will be we. We will not be able to go to the movies in December without you and at least two multiplexes. Yeah that's sorry no it. Do you ever wonder why you get hired so much. I mean I think people know you're a good actor but you get such a great range. Oh thank you I know I don't i. Don't try to analyze. Why get jobs I'm Jay? I'm grateful that I get them and grateful that it's with with people that you know. I wanted to work with. Luck has an incredible amount to do with it. Luck luck has amount but if you're not talented they can easily replace. Well Yeah I. I know a lot of talented people who for one reason or another haven't had the opportunities that I've had so I think timing and luck is a huge. I don't know what the percentage of it is but it's massive well. I want to go here now with this movie. And we're GONNA talk about. Everyone wants to know surprises and they want to know. I really don't WanNa know I WANNA WANNA walk in and not know a darn thing about this movie shoot. I know something. No no no no. That's the best way to go into these movies in particular particular because the spectacle is so huge that always on I mean with any movie really I mean even the someone was asking this earlier the people in my family. There's it's not a difficult the thing to keep from them because they want to be surprised like anybody else. I and I feel the true fans of these movies. Don't WanNa know anything. They they want to experience it As fresh as possible. I have seen all of the stores movies but then I start reading the articles that are happening before the movie comes out and you need a PhD. Need to decipher them. These fans have it so nailed down about what they expect and want. I bet you know that we'll be satisfied when this is over. I I mean I don't know I. I can't begin to speak to that many people but I feel it was very satisfying working on it so hopefully and from what I hear from everybody else in the cast asked to the scene at the that it does even reading Ed being onset every day I could feel that what J. Jj and. Chris had kind of come up with was unique and rare and a challenging thing to land of as he said in that press conference not three movies but nine. What do you miss about this experience when it goes away? I was selling some of the others that Harrison and mark and Carrie all stayed in contact for forty years. Yeah I Yeah I mean the relationships that you form are definitely. I always knew in the back of my mind that I was going back to the same group of people that you know. Oh you're Dresser Amanda or the script supervisor who comes you know came back for the with. Jj on the second. One are running into Kathy. Kathy Kennedy changed my life. She's the person that recommended me to. Jj for this job seeing her for off and on for six months you know bill. Every other year is feels very familiar and Oscar. Who I know? We've been friends before and got nothing but closer or over the course of these movies having moments with him onset offset. It's all You're you're right to assume that it would be in these relationships that deform with the people you're working with John. Boyega returns his fin former stormtrooper. Who abandoned the first order and fell in love with the resistance? Boyega has been in love with the Star Wars Franchise for some time now and his glad to bring it all to a close. This is joy test for the very first first star wars that you were in. I took these pictures one very happy. John Boyega laughing at just happy. I said I'm going to take a picture. Oh Yeah are you still as happy after three of these movies yeah. It just depends about what I was laughing. I was laughing at something. Maybe you you said something to me actually do. It's impossible. I want you to tell me I wanNA be surprised when I go to see this. I could try to get something out of you that you're not going to give me tell me why I'm going to be surprised I call it. I couldn't tell you why you're going to be surprised. I know that you will. I think they tie in the history of of Star Wars into this like confirming this really long story this space opera so definitely think this surprises in learn more. Oh by the characters and the mystery that we've had we've all we've all leads for the franchise a lot of some bits about the characters are uncovered them as you. I know that dockside too. You know there's some somebody who secrets here and there that need to be unpacked okay. I was reading some articles. And it ended up being my head Blah Blah Blah because the people who love this franchise in these movies five and six and seven times no every the NFL. I have like a maybe a bachelor's degree in Star Wars battle have PhD's yeah where do you fall which is a Let's say a high school diploma. My friend is much more based on just liking it but not necessarily having the time to learn every secret life why I wrote down. I want you to tell me if you are excited to move on to. What's next in your career definitely does the whole process of moving from slows? It's bittersweet you know under comes in the people you know. The consistency of those people in those friendships cut coming to an end. Just based environment being on set and in the sweet and associates as you said you know looking forward and hoping for other stuff I think that Kerry and Harrison and marquette a bond that took them forty years and you feel that you have that bond now with your stores coaster. Yeah we have it without the drugs. Johnson we have the clean bond. That's the genuine you in one. You know definitely won't be writing a book in in years to come in. It's about the the the lads and guys we have a real good solid connect. This gets heavy. You said kind of Hinton heavy were we need tissue or heavy that we say need up tissue the tissue in fact just bring the box bringing the books and just put in next really. It doesn't it doesn't they. Don't see that I'm used to the joy that this gives me the excitement and the thrill with joy comes sacrifice my friend joy onto the whole sacrifice. You become such a realist about the Star Wars. We're on tell tell you this is this is grounded is more grounded now. Which is why I love? You know it's real stakes in this and I think. JJ's coming with new energy that he he made sure that implemented into the story. You don't know who's going to get our got thirty seconds left. I think my last question to you is when this started. I ask ask you about walking down the street in England you you said no one. No one knows who I am. Same thing really. Yep I was just in target the other day I went target the other day. Because I'm star wars items. No charger for my phone. I'm here in the state so I had my my UK dock. DOC with needs to change. I went into target just woke my right foot left foot straight face in and out I was at the Grove to nothing. Still good it Oscar. Isaac returns as Po. He's the resistances. Crack pilots and new to the CAST is Keri Russell Is Zorro Bliss. She's new to this star Wars Universe and she's got a mysterious connection deposed past. Is it bigger as it better is. Is it grander is it sadder. Yes all of those things. It's more joyful. It's the stakes can't be higher. It's it's an incredible incredible feat that. Jj and the entire team was accomplished. He got a chance to wrap up this huge historic moment home and cinema closing out this this skywalker story which is incredible and he he. He's kind of the perfect person because this is such a fan. But he has the right temperament for it and I just I think people will be really satisfied. Did you ever shorthand on the set with him. Totally we do you. Have you have professional title chemistry with certain people and we just have like I get what he thinks is funny or you know if you wanted to go again. I'm like I know I know what you want. You know. He's yeah absolutely lately. I don't want you to really tell surprises because I want to walk in there and and really be surprised. Just give me an idea of some of the emotions that I'm going to get with these surprises. Well it's it's operatic. There's a real boldness to the filmmaking thinking so it's it's it leads with its heart I think that it's completely -pletely thrilling some of the action sequences just can't believe what you're saying and also the way that he's choreographed certain things where it's like long takes wchs with this one thing what you're seeing massive choreography and movements happening. It's really symphonic in that way more so than anything I've really ever seen. Are the equipment doing a lot of the action or are you in the action you in it and people are doing incredible. Incredible thing I mean in credit. There's a few things right off the bat like that. First thing daisy in the desert needs so. Except it's so. Oh you hear that music and you see what's happening you're like oh here we go so good elemental it has is that kind of elemental thing. She was saying she knows what. Jj wants. And I can see that. She's kind of like. Jj One tenth of Jj we would be a super successful you. You both have passion and I think that's great. This can't be easy sitting and talking about this without a sing it and all all that and I appreciate that you're planning long and I really I want to just know that I'm satisfied when it's over invested in eight films the ninth needs to work. I really think he did it and I felt I think he felt enormous pressure. And I think you've really did it and I think he was. He was even nervous. Introducing it last night. He was so he cares about it. So much and he wants people to be happy. You know. There's there's nothing not a cynical cynical drop now in this movie now But it is. I think it's incredibly emotional. Incredibly fulfilling Kelly Marie Tran also back as rose tico. We met her in the last S. Jedi now after a brush with death tico survives to fight in the final chapter of these skywalker saga. Naomi plays Newcomer Janna. She leads a group of former stormtroopers and strikes up a friendship with Finn and joins along with the resistance. I want you to tell me if you've been trying to read these articles articles that I've been trying to read and they're over my head and people trying to figure out what the movie is going to be a baton all this analysis no. I tried to stay off that. How funny is fun is fun but we know the things? I think you'd be laughing saying that. Got It over or we. We could be doing anything else. I think the focus was making it to make it and then offering after it is kind of way into other work and stuff like that and living laughing you know. We filmed for costs from like August to feel God like on and off. You know and and it meant that you know you don't live a lot of life science you finished you kind of want to uh-huh and Kelly. I don't know you can help me out here but people. They need to be satisfied with this. This finale yes how do you know we will be satisfied because we saw it last night when Sir Sir last night and were shook we all shook. Jd is with this morning who like. How do you feel starring James? I I don't have the words have the website and I think maybe something different because oversee. We've been critically appalled so the other stuff going on but yeah I think you can tell with someone will be satisfied with it but has a good chance that I really really good portion. Welby people want to be sensitive exactly so I like to go in and be surprised. They don't really like to read a whole lot. Great and I'm not going to ask if you were. The surprises are but maybe in a roundabout way. Just ask you why you think I will be surprised because things thought I mean I said the things you thought would be. Yeah turns left is right. Right right is wrong is right in Greece red. And I feel like you're GONNA have a publishing deal you might hear a busy. Says the two tissue movie John Boyega says you need the entire box to say. I definitely sobbed eye eric. I cory by CRICHTON's after I cried often I was trying to too heavy. Is Daisy Z.. Crying yeah get some tissues. Definitely pack just one of Kleenex and just like adopt a damn. I'm almost at the time. The one thing that but I always love is that there is an energy to these movies that kind of just wake you up and make you WANNA see more. Do I get that. Yes one thousand percent. Yeah I got here. Three days left at about nine hours sleep and I was very much awake whole thing for sure. The Hey music. Visual composition stunning several classic star. Wars characters are back including fan favourite. Landau Cal ripken played by. Billy Dee Williams uh-huh Landau is an old friend of Han Solo's. He wants presided over cloud city but his later convinced to lend a hand to the rebellion. Will it's always fun to sit. Sit Across and talk with Billy Dee. And here's what happened this time as he was kind of saying goodbye to star wars with the rise of skywalker. Okay Billy Dee. Before we get to star wars the rise of skywalker. Let's begin with the empire strikes back that role. Come your way. Well I was asked. You do Play Landau and that was a result of what was going on in my life and in movies at that particular juncture of my movie career lady sings the Blues became Minnesota. Matinee idol is Goes with good-looking. Swath of type. I think you could say that you really are the same type today. You still get cast for those kind of things right and I was saying a little earlier. That fans have great reaction to you when they see you. Have you figured Out Why after all these years they still cute star. Wars never really goes away. Okay does it. This will be part of you wherever you go for the rest of your life been like that for forty years but listen. I have no complaints. Okay so it's been good to me. It's an annuity. That's a good word for it. I think you're right. I understand that this one gets dark and really dark. Am I going to be needing tissue. Well it's like an opera. It's epic Jj a you know he really brings kind of anti any emotional journey to this whole thing and a really substantive Emotional journey to this particular star wars story. So that said Landau you'll see you'll see an aspect of Landau that you didn't see prior to this. That sounds like a real good tease. These this is something we're gonna like about Landau. Well I don't want to see for yourself I don't WanNa spoil well it and you know what I like a surprise. I think that's the fun of going to the movies as surprise but live. I haven't even seen it had screening of it yesterday and I. I didn't go because I was just so exhausted from doing this. But I'm looking forward to seeing it. I'm guessing that you know we're going to be satisfied absolutely absolutely you see how I'm feeling. I have absolutely in doubt with no no question. I don't want you to tell me the surprises but I do want you to tell. Tell me how you think I'm going to react to some of these surprises. Well I don't know you well enough to know how you react. I mean. Is there joy in this movie movie as well. Yeah I think everything is there. It's all there I mean you you you gotTa have you have light moments as well as a heavy moments but But these are very interesting to me because it really and I think that's one of the appealing things on the major appeal to do this. All Star Wars experience is that it talks about the dockside in the light side. Talk about good and evil. Outside of yourself put also talks about the Collective unconscious Within yourself it talks about the the struggle with yourself and the dark and light within yourself so that to me always makes it very interesting. Because it's something that that we all can relate to he standing you'd have to go but Do you remember a time when you weren't cool. No it is no surprise that star wars the rise of Skywalker is already a big blockbuster at the box office. That was expected. The only question now is how big is this film. Going to get only time will tell. I'm George Per Nacchio. Thanks for joining joining us. For another edition of off the red carpet seeing next time.

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Ep 135: Oscars Recap + Red Carpet Thoughts with Zanna Roberts Rassi

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Ep 135: Oscars Recap + Red Carpet Thoughts with Zanna Roberts Rassi

"Before we get into the show we are so excited to tell you that the super turns on E. Wednesday February twelfth at ten nine central. They have a new host. Jade Cata Preta. Who who is hilarious? Very quick witted. And she's kind of known for being a superfan herself which is what makes her take so much fun because she's so excited to talk about all these pop up culture moments and I mean the soup. is they go through everything from the latest. TV moments the best viral videos everything in between and her commentaries just so hilarious because she's so engaged and we are so excited so the Soup Wednesdays at ten nine central on e.. Hi Guys I'm Emma and I'm Julie where the girls behind comments by CELEBS and welcome back to our final recap episode from award season. I can't believe it's over. It's it's Kinda crazy it really flew by not yeah like Oh my God in the blink of an eye feel. I know you know as so during award season we treat our Monday episode. Kind of as the recap and then. Wednesday is our regular episode. So this week we have Liliana Vasquez from Papa. The morning coming on there's so much to talk about an Oscar related some very excited for that. So definitely Louis into Wednesday's episode because that's going to be going I can already tell. Oh my so we also have a special guest joining us for this as you guys know during award season we bring out the big gun so Isabelle's bells here with us. Hi Hi so. Have you talk about there. There's so much we also have similar to what we did with Brad. Gretzky we have Zanna Roberts Razzi who is the CO founder of milk makeup fashion editor at large for Marie. Claire obviously a new style correspondent calling at the end to kind of break down some of her favorite look. So we'll get into that at the end but there's so much to get into. There's everything to get into. I think that the way we're GonNa do it is. We'll start with our red carpet favorites. We'll go into kind of red carpet moments and award were show and I kind of want to end before we talked Zana with the vanity. Fair looks because I don't know if you guys feel this way but I often feel like those looks are actually far superior to do the regular looks. It was so true this year that last night Julian I were up until all hours of the night as the photos. Were Rolling in because of the time difference. I couldn't get enough when Radha popped up. No that's the other thing with. The vanity. Fair Party is that the Oscars is such a prestigious event that you really have to be either a presenter or nominated it to be there. So the Vanity Fair party gives everybody else. In Hollywood the the chance to have their Oscars moment without being at the Oscars and people really take advantage edge of that. Yeah and it gives all of us the chance to watch them which is equally as amazing. Yeah the qualifications to go to that or like you have to be a famous person and that's really all we care about truth. Yeah for sure also before we start I just want to give a subtle reminder shorty awards dot com slash comments by were nominated for short awards for best mean parody account on and it would mean the world to us. If you guys could vote. I think the voting's over like February twentieth soon. It takes one second and we so so appreciate it so thank you guys so much. Let's start out with some of our favorite looks personally. I feel like it would be remiss to not start with Scarlett Johansson in Oscar de la. Renta she came out swinging swinging this. You know if you've seen me what did you WanNa see Scarlett and I couldn't necessarily put it into words and then when I saw her on my screen. I was like that that that you you contrast you are a lucky man. I love the role that college owes place. Colin Jost as a trophy husband. That's his that's his purpose on our does so much but he is a trophy husband at heart and he works at he loves it. He owns it. That's where he belongs. A Rod Energy Ama rod energy. Not The way that's the that's the way it is a context gives you wings. A rod gives you husband like trophy husband energy. Truly truly what an analogy I mean. He is so proud to be standing there with her. It's almost you can just feel it. He's just glowing and like wouldn't wouldn't you be of by the way like last night out of any other and I also she looked the best. Not even the best I've ever seen are probably the best I've ever seen in anyone. Yeah so agree outfit phase hair everything. She was really another level last night and I made it accurate now. It's not to say that we have disliked her looks thus far we've really liked took all of award season. I think but this one just knocked it out of the car. It's suppose her Oscars looked and it showed yes sure yeah for her. Dresses were on Iraq. She said I wanNA wear that one to the Oscars offers. I also WanNa talk about Penelope Cruz and Margaret Qualley. Both inching out. I thought you know. Tell me if you agree with this. It's not the Penelope Cruz. Ever leaves leaves my mind. But she's definitely not at the top of it and then I am reminded as to her elegance when I see Ron a carpet like this and I'm just like wow there you are jaw-dropping also the you know the white flour. That is so quintessential Chanel. That's every box. When you've got your jumbo classic that is on the fucking vox? That's what I was GonNa say is is that with her and was Margaret. Well when you look at them you're like even to the most untrained I if my dad walks into the room and turned on he'd be like Oh darn show. Yeah and that's what I love. Yes such a good point. I also listen. I've been incredibly vocal on this podcast. That saying that I respect billy. Irish is talent beyond clearly. She's doing something right but I never really just. I personally never fully got it and I have to say last night. Her that Chanel look I was loving it I do. I was like wait. I'm so into it I know you so so into it. I thought it was perfect. It was exactly what I wanted to see her and it was. It was classy. She changed it up for the Oscars. She didn't wear Gucci. She didn't wear sunglasses. She didn't which was a huge deal. It was it was Billy Irish does the Oscars like she had an elevated oversized. Look she really did those gloves. That went underneath really cool. Villi Irish with her nails. Is Emma walking into a room. Billy nails is like Oh yeah they just Kinda grew day. I've can walk around with them. Ever since she walks in the room nails. I like nails. Get their ten minutes worship and everyone's like high and you're like this this the beginning it every sixteen days for the past fourteen years. I have not changed my color ones. I'll introduce you to my lady. She's the best one I call it. They know me by name Julie. Red Carpet I jungle. Read My. That's hilarious just to clarify because obviously you can't see they're nowhere near that link. Free Larsen and Selene Fuck Larson person dropping dead general. Brie Larson's boobs be Larson and Selene Brew Larson. Everything do you think she was wearing skims boob tape. 'cause I definitely think that was could have been a possibility or some variation a boo totally could have been although. I've never seen her boobs. Not Look I toby. I think she was having way before. skims booth tape was in the equation. Can We talk about Regina King. I was just GONNA say. Can We talk about Regina King. I felt like we've gone too long without talking about Regina cake. That's what I can't hold. Holy Fuck holy fuck the color on her phenomenal. The FIT phenomenal. It was fitted but she had the back so it was still like special her arms. I've never seen an arm like that. We were like we were saying James Corden when she walked out to present the camera cut him. And you see him like crepe dress and we're like nodding along guess James. Everyone on twitter was like. That's that's me. Yeah you're right now you know. Yeah also Cynthia REVOX INVER Saatchi. Oh my God as you said last night and I agree with you. She's the underrated aided. MVP award season in the sense. That every look she has had has been more spectacular than the one before I i. It's unbelievable it's UN I. We've sat down for every every single award. Show Recap Mondays after all I can think about us. Scindia revolt looks Jason. bolden knocks it out of the park but the thing is you know a lot of celebrities. Have the the same stylist and you. You can always see their own individual style shine through because the styles yeah has so many perspectives her. She wears these most amazing avant-garde guard like runway gowns. And she nails it every time I thought she looked so cool. It was like ballgown but it wasn't Fussy ice on and I just like I was obsessed with it. I'm ready to talk about Renee Zellweger. You let's do it. I'm ready gorgeous. Beautiful she marvette sparkly. No was was. She was in Armani Privee in this one shoulder white sparkley number and you know renee. Zellweger is similar to Penelope Cruz in the sense that and she's not in the spotlight she's not at the front your mind and so this season we really got REEFA milliards with her and listen. Say What you want about her from a personality perspective I dunno Oh. Her stylist is absolutely killing. She also nailed it every single time. Like sheik minimalism. Because she never wears statement jewelry and have to stay necklaces. We're definitely a trend last night. And you didn't see that with her her she let the dress in her body and her face really speak for themselves especially with the neckline like that. Yeah you have to. Of course. It was spectacular. I loved it. This is a little off brand but I loved Florence Dispute Louis Vitton. I thought that color. She should never wear another caller a day in her life. It was a good color. It was an interesting rush's young like she could pull it off. Address was fine for me. It didn't Mike but the color brought it home. Brought it home. I WANNA talk for one second Timothy Xiaomei and I would love to talk for multiple minutes hours days years mm Millennium Park. I mean his one his moment with Margot Robbie and the red carpet. If you didn't see to school and it was one for the books hot. Yes just how the whole thing is just. I can't okay. I really respect to style always and I really really like him and I thought he looked cool. I would be lying if I said that last night was one of my favorites of his though. No it's not what I wanted to see him and it was a little too casual. I saw what he was going for. I respected. It's just not what I wanted to see him in. There was a really funny tweet. That was that was about Timothy and it was like it was like I get that. He wasn't individually nominated for little women but didn't meet at a park. Honda civics at the ED carpet. True so drew also Natalie Portman in New York tour was was really spectacular and there was a lot. I'm sure most of you know this by now. But on her jacket. It was kind of a jacket type. Kate thing she had in gold all the names of the women who she believed you know where snubbed as directors from as getting director nominations at the Oscar's and there was a video of her saying I wanted to honor them but subtly and that's exactly what she did. I loved it and we were talking about this earlier that I think when you have this argument an of female directors being snubbed. It's really easy for people to come back at that and be like well you know what like if there were any though worth getting they would have been nominated like once you put names to that it. 'cause then people have no other choice but to be like okay. There's something wrong here under it's A. It's a really effective way to do it. It's not just making noise. It's like an endless. I thought it was so beautiful so well done so powerful couldn't couldn't speak more highly of it was such an interesting way to do it that it got press and it got photographed without her saying one word I so it was a point of conversation but it wasn't the whole conversation. I thought it was really. It was really classy. Really was also not even necessarily for the luck. Although it was beautiful Brad Pitt and Brioni ice. We were talking about it last night. Collectively on group tax. We weren't physically together. There's like central mom on group. Tax Group grew chain on the feed. Unin semester there is no one as good looking as Brad Pitt. Now I will say it right now. Truly you can list I. I don't Care Gimme Leo. Give me Michael Jordan. Give me anybody anybody in Hollywood. That is considered Jason Momoa. Even Brad Pitt in his is in a League of his own. Yeah truly he has snow. It's it's really it's unbelievable and it's just so nice to see him. God Damn it nice to see him good to see a brad good to see you and good to see your speechwriter. Oh my God. They never so scared. My I was with my family last night. And we just put it in the most simple terms that sums it up about Brad. He's worth the hype yet the well. You know that's the way to sum it right like all. Everyone talks about Brad Brad Pitt. Movies are hot gorgeous everything and it's like you see him and you're like you know what you're right right. Yeah Furniture Right. Also is ozzy beats in this black strapless sequin number talk a statement necklace really cool. No she was was obviously in the joker and she was just talking a lot about working with Joaquin Phoenix on the on the red carpet shoes. Hockney Juliane about that. But you could tell she was so excited to be there and I think not only. is she stunning. I loved that. Look I was so into it will the look also with her natural hair is just such. I mean beyond so gorgeous says it was a special was called. That's what it is. You don't really see this Lincoln. It's not everybody can work. It's like tea length but it was fitted. It was really cool all like I like when people do little things like that because she was still not under dressed. I I mean listen. There were a lot of good luck charlatan. Mundine Latina seen really really looked hearing Ben Platt screaming and his instagram story for news to show beanies. Face I'm watching. The red carpet was was friendship. Billy Porter order as always just comes out swinging. I mean there were a lot of really good lucks I honestly. I didn't even have that any that I was like what the fuck is going on here and I don't even like to give so much attention to that but if we're going for one second Chris Renwick I could have done without it. You don't like lasagna. Just like there were a lot of things that we're having here. That could have not happened. Happened the rental Lilia. Just I don't know that's that's kind of how I felt. Were there any others that you were just a little bit really confused as to Trying to think has been really good ones here and I'm thinking I wasn't confused. I could've seen Gal Gadot and something else don't have margot too because I don't want to get into it I don't know no let's have an honest conversation about it. I'll start and then you guys can lead in because I know we're all a little bit hesitant. Okay I'm not hesitant. I'm just angry. Here's the way that we feel and again I'll start in the new tribe and okay tell me if I'm representing our coat. Collective view please go. We feel that Margot Robbie is as beautiful awful as one could be like two two in our opinion if there is a spectrum. There's nobody more beautiful or more classically elegant than Margot Robbie and she has the potential to nail every every single. Look when you're already starting with the bar that high. Your dress doesn't even need to go leaps and bounds above for you look best and for some reason her stylist who it really is clearly talented because she dresses some other people. Very well Andress Margaret in excellent street where just continually misses the bar and I have to say last night. It wasn't that she looked bad. The dress wasn't terrible. But it's a Margot Robbie what you should be fucking nailing it and get it was it was referential Angela. Old Vintage Chanel. I get like I literally. I die for an odd vintage inspired. Cinelli that those are music to my ears. I just feel like she should take breath away and I was like. It's really pretty like you're going to like. I don't know if a SAG luncheon luck I don't know I just I just wish I wish to hurt her like face. Everything takes my breath away so much and then like I wish the look followed it Here's the thing I I mean. I've I've been angry about this award season. I know you have because the thing was margot. Is that like if you liked her. Look if you didn't think it was that bad if you hate it whatever you you shouldn't Margot Robbie is the type of person where she should not walk into an award show and you should be there be like oh it was just fine for Margot. Robbie should walk walk into on a red carpet and her look should be the top look every single time if Margot Robbie isn't taking your breath away with both face hair makeup and her outfit uh-huh than it's a disservice to her and it's a disservice to us and it's a disservice to America and the world and that's how I feel I'm not taking it back and by the way if you have somebody that is Margot Robbie it's not like she's just showing up to present an award. She was the biggest movie of the year as the biggest actress. In that movie. And it's a disservice to show up at the Oscars in a look that you would just describe as not that bad. I thought it was kind of pretty so agrees like we're not going to a gala chip Brianna here. I I hold on his way that Cynthia Rideau arrived at every single award show and she. He made a splash. You knew she was there. That's what we want from our garage and I have by the way I'm not defeated. I have confidence. She'll get there but that plaid number a couple of weeks ago wasn't doing it last night was better I sheriff. Maybe we're getting there but I know you have it in you like Imagine Margot Robbie in Scarlett Johansson Strahl stop like just said. Maybe that's it. Maybe she knows it's unfair. She's just she's being nice US Navy Another just we have to like. I can't a- fall chair. who retire another two really? Good ones Charlene's you love. I Love Charlie's and Mindy killing in that yellow was so her or color. I always love indicating. She wears her and her stylist Jessica. Moroni who's Meghan markle's best friend and I just like I'm obsessed with all the also she did the whole stamen necklacing. There was a lot. aww that yeah it was great. I mean it didn't it wasn't it's always fun it was no Vanity Fair Party exactly which we'll get into at the end of because what we did. So if you remember sex ED classes the thing is we always learned how to prevent pregnancy at all costs and we we have all the tools to prevent it but then when it came to really planning ahead for it. It's kind of a mystery. And it's really time for fertility education. which is why modern fertility was created created? It's the easy and affordable way to test your fertility hormones at home with a simple finger prick so you mail it in with the prepaid legal and you get your personal results. Within ten Wendy's. The thing about traditional testing at your doctor is that it can cost over a thousand dollars. It's very expensive. 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Okay let's get into some of our favorite red carpet moments before we get into the actual show personally. So I'm sure if any of you have seen cheer you know Jerry Harris but even if you haven't really quick background he basically was the breakout star of Netflix barrel documentary cheer and he. Does this thing called Matt Talk. which is on the Mat? It's kind of like the way to hype up the people who are who are Cheering and and Ellen. Dinner surprise him a couple of weeks by telling him that he was going to be her red carpet correspondent. So there's Jerry Harris Street from Texas on the Red Carpet fully freaking out Navarro Tie in in the Navarro. Cheer Tie. It was Monica. Who if you watch the doctor? You know she's their coach. It was her birthday and he was. You know. I think we post patriotic. But he was so excited to be there and when he interviewed Brad Pitt and after him interviewing Bradford. He couldn't believe that that was his life. And I was having such vicarious excitement one of the reasons that I'm kind of excited for award season everything to over us because I'm very nervous. Navarro Cheer isn't focused enough on Daytona. Which is coming up very soon? And I want them to be able to do. I want no more distractions. I hear you Julie Loud and clear. This is something I first of all. Jerry was literally the cutest little cutie. That's ever been ever ever we'll all I could think about though was how much would it suck. The cheer documentary really focused on what six or seven members of the TI. How much like Emma and member in the beginning of the documentary Monica's like Oh you're gonNA WANNA make up Darius like he's really interesting? Imagine being a kid on the team like a new just like were really the star of the documentary mm-hmm and it's still really cool but then all of a sudden on instagram and it's like your team member is on now on the red carpet with having one on one moment with Brad Pitt. And you're just like what what the fuck like Isn't that just crazy. It's just so crazy because there's no way that they made this documentary with the expectation that it was going to have the effect that that had so off topic from the Oscars here but think. About how many documentaries like this are made like so twice. Cheer like there are so many when I was looking looking on the net flicks category of like because you watch cheer. There's like three other cheerleading documentaries. This just had such an effect on people and I think it's one of those things where it happened and it was just. It was like that like it had this effect and all of a sudden they were overnight superstars and they were like all we were doing was being documentary about cheerleader. Yeah for sure I mean that is the power that like Netflix and TV shows and documentaries these days have like these really normal people who were just doing the thing they loved at the small tiny town in Texas is. No they're not interviewing Brad Pitt on the red carpet on the little like Charlie demilio. Now doesn't it Charlie. How he's talk? It all comes back to Charlie. Let me tell you my friend talks to me and was like you know Jerry is on cameo and it went up from twenty. He went from twenty dollars to one fifty overnight and it fucking can shows. That's that's what happens when you get that moment for fucking him Also Julia Butterfly Ten years old. She was adorable so excited to be there and she brought a Turkey sandwich in her bag because she didn't like didn't like the food there which I'm sure we'll but that's me. That's the way I've got a sandwich in my bag. On multiple occasions `table drilling would have not been down with the fact that they were doing Vegan Sushi Sushi by definition is fish. Now the best now that was I wrong. Aunt night gay right. I'm always on the best. The best part was that she was like carrying like a real grownup expensive. That three thousand dollar rag. Yeah and she just like whipped it open and she didn't even know she was being funny. I don't think we just had a shooting. Ten year old. She was hungry. She Turkey sale middle and the cat. Little Anna the cat. Have you ever seen American girls. A fucking gem on it. No hard actress. Also you know our our favorite thing about her is just how humble she is and it really came out last night because she was being interviewed by Ryan seacrest. And he's like you know at the grammys. You said you couldn't believe that you were there in that category you know. Can you believe you're here. And she was like no even less so so. Can you believe that I'm here. Like what am I doing here. And of course she was the one who sang The you remember. It's she saying yes horrendous of yesterday by the Beatles but in a very billy way that only she can use so we'll get into yeah but she was just so in off the fact that she was there and I she's not I don't WanNa say growing ever didn't like her but what I'm getting it more now. Totally for you. Take you take a little while to settle. It's like more exposure to her like you get your understanding more also other kids on the red carpet. Where the kids from Joe Joe Rabbit Stop? Did you hear first of all. They're like so funny so adorable together and they're being injury whatever they walk away and the one in the glasses whose name is archie. They walk away and he's like let's let's die from sleep exhaustion tonight or the certain late that we die like they're they're not used to be like what what is the kids on. The red carpet is probably one of my favorite things in the world. Hands Down Number Jacob from when he was so cute and little anything he would say or do made a moment thing. It's like when you're a kid and you're on the red carpet it's truly you have the bars solo and and you're like what fucking than that exactly. What's going on the bar so low? It's that when you're a kid you don't recognize where you are so it's like when you're an adult or you're a teenager you're on the red carpet it's like okay. I'm at the Oscars like I have to be on my best behaviour. I don't WanNa do anything to embarrass US when you're a kid and you're a ten year old boy especially you're you're a ten year old boy whether you're in math class or gym class or at Your House or on the red carpet and it shows and then it shows in so fucking cute every time. Let me ask you a question because this let's address the elephant in the room. I thought we already did with me. Literal Fuck was black trying there. I was so confused also like what I have to say. You know. I'm not a fan of I. I actually thought she looked really good. I thought that dress looks great on her. I really did you know yes. She's had worse. Looks come on Julie. You don't think I'm literally bugling wise everything. Why is she here? But why was she there. I don't know but Here in new says the Internet was very confused as to what she was doing. At the event event which celebrates the best in film and typically is attended by Ala's movie and TV Star Shady China. Who is not listed as a presenter is also nominee was among among the first to arrive? How the fuck did back China Finesse around the Oscars signing out she financial ruins the author is why walk the red carpet? But it's it's very similar to like there are genuinely nothing. I could care to black China. Being at the point in saying that there is a lot of people like lily leaf example. It's a random example. We typically don't see them won't whoa carpet. Yeah we typically don't see them walking the red carpet in that way you why because everyone's wearing her eyelashes I don't know but that's what I'm saying And also spike Lee wearing found. I found it founded ground. She headed to the Oscars with my award. Winning engineer at Tieto just music. Oh she it was this Oh oh yeah she was. She went with a producer. who was nominated for musical? I'm so glad you got to the bottom. And then we'll show right convert alone. You know Julie There's some things that are just it's never going to be answered and I think black China walking the Red Carpet Solo at the Oscars is just GonNa have to be one of those Philly Eggert tweeted. Did you see. He took us Somebody tweeted watch out of there and retweeted hero tournament that's Hilarious Spike Lee in his full tribute to Kobe was really special use wearing a full purple and Yellow Alleluia. Twenty four in the back. And you know I just I I loved that I always love those types of Trevisan. Yeah yes in the same vein. The Natalie Portman perfect tribute that like it speaks volumes. Sashes can be a really powerful statement when done right. I think I'm thinking about it. During the metoo movement when everyone were all black and they had the blackout so they were pins sometimes sometimes at award shows. Yeah interesting so if you've been listening to this podcast for a while you obviously we know how much Julian I love these bras. We are talking about their love wearing. She literally is so. The thing about third love is that they do bras differently and their belief leaf. Is that every woman deserves to feel comfortable and confident every day so with the right kind of support. They help you to do this. So there's a couple of different things I there's a fit finder quiz wiz which you basically go on and you answer a few simple questions to find find your perfect fit in sixty seconds Julian. I both did this. It was fun was not time of my life. 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That's third love dot com slash celebs for fifteen percent off today. Okay do you feel comfortable moving onto the show by the way nobody worry. Because like I said we're ending with the Vanity Fair's before we move onto coming on so we are talking talks about Margot Robbie grabbing Timmy's face so I feel comfortable moving on okay so johnny opens with Billy Porter and she kind of addressed a lot of the things. The snobs the lack of diversity. She this is probably one of my favorite things that happens with performers and not. Everybody does it. But I love when there's an interactive performance meaning in the middle of her show. She has her hat hat on on Tom Hanks she's laying on the floor next to Leonardo cafe. She's having everybody sing like that's the stuff that I love because no nobody can prepare for that. You didn't Eleo was GonNa React Free Larson when she sticks the Mike and Brie Larson's face yeah sing. Yeah that's what I love. Those are the moments and that's as we always say that is when the camera. We're a person's angle is so important. They're the hardest working people their hardest working people in the room in the camera. And the guys who are like cuts came three cut together to now just everyone all the people there like. It's insane it's true. It's it's it's fucking believable. Would you agree with. Actually I mean I I would not want Gotcha and I would not be able to handle it and they love it because it shows like the celebrities real reactions to things like they are not prepared. They've no they don't know what's happening when the opening in the show and it's like you see their real true on filtered unprepared reaction so what's going on and like they just go with the flow furniture so it starts off after that Chris. ROCK DOC and Steve Martin come out and of course you know the Oscars this. I don't know what urine wrote they haven't had host but I think only the second right second or third. I don't know second or third but they both of them have previously hosted and they're kind of making a joke about the whole thing like well Emotion yeah but they they really poked fun at Jeff. Jeff bezos and. They're like this great actor and he's got cash when he writes a check balanced like Jeff. bezos is so rich got divorced and he's still the richest man in the world. He saw marriage story. I thought it was a comedy Steve. You have anything to add about Bazo now. I like getting my packages on time. Barry funny again. It was funny but it was so much. funnier seeing Jeff Bezos squirm in his and his son. Next to 'em right it like that. That was my favorite. You'll be like my dad is literally so rich. Steve Martin and Chris Rock are laughing thing about the bank bouncing that's like our opening the Oscars talking about how rich my dad is. Yeah I mean. Listen of just Basil's the sitting in the room. You're not gonNA talk about his hair his ladders to talk about the Basil's it's pretty much out. Richie is for sure. Also Brad Pitt. Bringing his manager her as his date Cynthia So cute although say with me only it was never going to happen. I know there was like at like a on Friday night or Saturday. Night be like hey I know it's kind of random. Do you think they're just like any chance of radin carpet together as I keep dreaming I had like one millisecond of a a moment last thank you when he didn't show up yet and all those like you know what let's fuck and dream for a second. It wasn't even a dream. I like literally which they did it. Just the faulk with us like but the thing is is that your Brad Pitt. And Aniston like your puppet master like we are your little puppets and if you showed up on that red carpet we would be at your believe there would be no way they would sit back and they would laugh at how hard we freaked out over there. Little joke of showing up to the red carpet together true. Yes so true like jokes anew media for sure I also WanNa talk for a second about Camilla marrone and Leo being there together. Because we haven't seen her as prominently throughout award season. Obviously that's his girlfriend. She's twenty to forty five. That's eight different. Has Been What Age difference has been widely award season with our. Let's make it less ladies. She look beautiful. I like watching them together. Nothing really else to add. I just wanted to note it. I can't believe she just gets to go to the Oscars gets Mary Phillips to do her makeup and gets to be with Leonardo DiCaprio caprio. That's all she's one stunning woman. I have to say I got DA DA. Can we just read Brad. Pitt's speech really quickly some of it. Oh you're ready to go right there already damn you not no I was I just I expect a little bit more of an intro from you like I expected like a little drum roll and like a girls. Are you ready. I think time did Anna to get real schneider. I just think is what I have to say. Is I get so anxious when I'm about to get a little dirty here but it's drew. I get so anxious when his name is called. I know he's getting off because truly and I mean this with no disrespected Jason Momoa. He is the only spur actor celebrity. Anything the the only person that I don't know that I like kind of wet when he talks. tiogue Jason Blacklists Jason. We can girl she had my back. Jack Just GonNa Fuck in turn on me like just like my whole body is invisible to it so much more than being so hot because looks alone. Don't don't get got you all these his his mannerisms the fact that he's so eloquent while simultaneously being so chill. It's really something special special and quite frankly. I was getting those butterflies. You know exactly what you really gotta be something special to pull off hair like that and not just pulled off for to look literally amazing on you. Yeah he wore or that hair. That here did not wear him. And that's all I have to say. Yeah so he gave that speech girl. Ashby you read that speech so i. He's the first winner of the night. which is the best thing ever? Because I was happy for him because he can never relax. Do you know how much it sucks to be the last category like truly I know. Yeah so he says they don't personally really no but I could imagine I mean. I don't feel that you're nominated for best actor but like I would much prefer to get it over with. He can chill. You can go to the bathroom. Yeah exactly I I mean also we'll joon-ho said when he won for best picture he was like I thought after best director I could kind of just like chill out you know. He knew he cut in any way. Now you so brad says they told me I only have forty five seconds up here which is forty five seconds more than the Senate gave John Bolton this week. I'm thinking maybe Clinton as a movie about it and in the end the adults do the right thing which of course the audience you know. There was some pause for audience applause. This really is is about Quenton. Jerome Tarantino you are originally. You are one of a kind. The film industry would be a much drier. Place without you and I love the ethos you gave cliff booths look for the best people. Expect the worst but look for the Best Leo right on your hotels any demand the views fantastic ask just a line of the fucking night number one fucked me up number two a little disappointing sale. DC But fine and to the rest of the cast and crew. Big Bad Bob. Richardson Robert Garcia. RCA Ritchie my man. Mike Mo you know I also WanNa say you know all. We're doing all this I think it's time to give a little love to our stunt coordinator stunt coordinators and our stunt cruise listen. I'm a bit gobsmacked smacked. I'm not I'm not one to look back. But this has made me do so. And I think of my folks taking me to the drive in to see butch and Sundance and loading up my car and moving out here and jean-ann really giving my I shot to all the wonderful people. I've met along the way to stand here now once upon a time in Hollywood. Ain't that the truth. This is for my kids who call everything I do. I Adore you said said once upon a time in Hollywood. Ain't that the truth my whole body. I got such chills. It wasn't even just him saying like it. It was so much of him saying it because I think he so oh perfectly represents that sense of it but that one line is so epic. No I think you can't I just sit back in my chair duluth talking because I just. It's really crazy like he ha- I don't. I don't think it'll ever fate. I can't imagine feeling that way about anyone else. Let's talk about Brad Pitt. First supposed somebody who's been doing gene also. Don't you agree that that that line is like when they say the title of a movie in a movie movie in a movie in the real life about the movie. Yeah it was like the most Meta fucking moment I was like what was Oh. Carfax is perfect. It was Brad Pitt. Winning Skar important because the only other Oscar he has is for twelve years. A slave won best picture. This was his first actor Oscar. And it's funny because I think that last time that we were talking about it we were talking about the difference between Leo and Brad Getting Oscars and why it was such a big deal in Leo got and I think I said something along the lines of I feel like brought his more celebrated than Leo. And Maybe Leo how to take more serious roles and that's not even the case League Brad. This was his first actor Oscar and it feels like so many. Yeah it was like why was it not made as big of a deal right. It's like is always saying that was like I. I don't wish it but I almost wish. He didn't have the Oscar for for twelve twelve years of slave because him winning his first Oscar would have been such a like amazing in such a big deal. Yeah it almost felt like everyone had to add that like this is his first actor actor. I almost that he didn't have the other one. But it's so interesting that we think of Leo and Brad is like the quintessential movie stars and they both only have won one Oscar and it's so interesting is kind of like Jennifer Lopez never won a grammy. Yeah you know what I mean like I know when you think of that maybe that makes sense but when I first realized that has oh oh ship I guess what the thing with Leo is. Why was such a bigger deal for him to get the Oscars? Because I think he has much more Oscar worthy roles and there were like we were going through it last night we were talking about. I don't like wow. He didn't get how didn't get an Oscar for Wolf of Wall Street. How he didn't get an Oscar for what's eating Gilbert grape like? There are so many movies where you're like. What the the fuck? That was so deserving. How'd they get it and it's like you know it's interesting when you look at the grammys because grammies the way it works is like you can have have so many fucking grammy's like how many does beyond to have twenty two with the Oscars how does Meryl Streep About Three? And it's like it is so so much more prestigious and so much harder to get and so much more selective than that's why it is the biggest or show. It's not just that it's the biggest star power and the biggest movies. It's that that is the most coveted thing that you know for. Sure for sure so for Brat to have that for acting like that was is there was one thing I could have wanted out of award season more than Jenin Brad. Being together it was Brad getting that Oscar. Yep Ice Julie so grew. It's a club who deserves to be. It's a club you deserve to be in a God. Damn Yep Also Toy story four winning for best animated film. I typically wouldn't touch on this but I was just really happy. It's it's rare that I that I am so familiar earlier with the movie that was winning. Best Animated Film and I was asking for them. We love that movie Julie. Also hair love won for best animated short which I personally was so happy about and Matthew Berry who wrote and directed it said hair levels done because we wanted to see more representation in animation. There is a very important issue. That's out there. The Crown Act and if we can help get this passed in all fifty the states it will help stories. Like Danny Arnold. Who's our special guest tonight? Stop from happening. So De'andre Arnold Cherry brought him to the Oscars and he's a Texas high school student. who was told? He couldn't attend graduation until he cut his dreadlocks. So obviously this sprott national attention and prompted the Texas Legislative Black Caucus to work bill. which is the crown? Act that would ban discrimination based on hair textures and styles commonly associated with race. It was like was really nice. Was that Matthew. Cheri was so happy to have de'andre with him like he not only in his speech but even watching him on the red carpet and other interviews. You repeatedly just talked about how important it was for for him to be there. I think also the movie like this with you know again with putting a face and a name to the an issue. It's the same thing without an appointment and the you know the names for sure for him to bring De'andre it wasn't just like this is about representation which is still an incredibly important issue. It's like there's representation and then there's people being specifically early discriminated against for their hair. This was like this was right there. This was showing people this was just. We need more cartoons. This was like people. This affects people in their real real everyday life and then take it one step further to be able to point to actual legislation that's and he said representation matters especially in cartoons because they're the first movies we see which is so true and he in his speech. He said this awards dedicated to Kobe Bryant. Maybe I'll have a second act as great as he had obviously. Kobe won in two thousand eighteen for deer basketball which was his animated short. And it was just really beautiful again such a nice tribute Tim and Matthew Cherry was also an NFL player. So the whole you know Ashley so many layers to it so since winning being the same award the the father daughter relationship it was a lot and Matthew Cherry actually tweeted if there was a tweet from May of two thousand sixteen where he tweeted an image of Daughter sitting on his father's lap ro any three D artists follow me. I got an Oscar worthy short film idea to go with this image. Get at me and then re tweet it. Last night wrote nailed it which which is so indicative so I mean Reminds me of Tyler. The Creator's young tweeted saying someone said you'll never win a grammy and Demi Levato saying in two thousand at eleven or whatever I really want to sing at the Super Bowl. Have you know what I love about. This is that you know. There's a lot of times where we bring up these old tweets from people who are singers forever river and they. They tweeted something about in their craft. It's like you know Demi lovato singing national anthem and Super Bowl. It's not the craziest thing. She's a singer. It was a goal. Tyler Creator winning a grammy. That's what she set out to do. Somebody like Matthew Cherry. who had an idea and it wasn't his fueled writing this and saying I have? I have a really great different Oscar from and then four years later winning that that is four years also which is really not that long time if you think about it it's really specialist really. 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Also you know some of the other wireless options are are a little cumbersome and ray cons ear buds are both stylish and discrete with no dangling wires or stems so now's the time to get the latest and greatest from recon. Get fifteen percent off your order at by RECON DOT com slash. CBC that's by Recon R. A. Y. CON DOT COM SLASH CBC. For fifteen percent. OFF RECON WIRELESS EAR BUDS BY ARRAY CON DOT COM slash. CBC There were a lot of musical performances last night. I WanNa say that Dina Menzel as truly road. No one has a voice like her truly every every single time. I'm just in awe. Wait has it to talk about the introduction because Josh Gad who obviously plays Olaf introduced her and he he made major fun of John Travolta and he said but as a data to girls and the Voice of the American Olaf the iconic and brilliant. Deana Menzel pronounced exactly how it's spelled. What is our Elsa? He was referencing two thousand fourteen when John Travolta introduced her and said a deal. Does that mean that's like when you accidentally of mess up award and you know you're about to get your. That is my worst nightmare. Like he made one mistake and he will never ever lived down. You don't do ads ads but to me. It is usually. You're joking but it's not fair. Also like he didn't just like floored he said a made up different. I know he fully. I totally get it but it's just very reminiscent you fuck up. There's a there's an S. L. Skate. I think it was actually bieber. Who did it where he like? Where the whole thing says one word and then the whole night they keep bringing up that one I love just let it go? Just let it go. It's also I feel. I hadn't seen the clip of like you know that kind of passes the people let it go no pun intended and I re-watch it last night and I'm just like you you watch it and you're like what the literal thought you know. That was a rough one greasier some moments that just they don't get old never so she sang into the unknown and she brought on a lot of different people that were saying. In all these different languages it was so beautiful it was such touching performance. I'm just a big Fan of hers and I have to say we'll get into the when we talk about Vanity Fair after party look far exceeded any of her yes or good and payments looks good and pink great and white exceptional in black. I loved that loved also Diane Keaton Meaning Counter Reeves. Wait don't also die. inky leads into that. I know because of what I was going to say is. I don't even feel it's right for me to take this when I want you. I know how excited you are about it. So let me crack my knuckles okay. Let's get into it a little more here. You want to start if you're interested in Julian I starting in Nancy Meyers podcasts. Please give us a call. Yeah I razor they they they come into like you have had our pockets and I was like well which comes in Utah. I was was like well. We actually spoke last night. We read. We weren't going to get involved in the Nancy Meyers podcasts. Having probably only seen the paragraph not only Nancy Meyers from August today. Don't be suspicious anyways. Okay let's go are legitimately. Probably the President Vice Presidents champions ends of the Nancy Meyers Fan Club right cracked we own her. We always like we just have Nancy. Martin Marathons on the wreck. All we do is watch father bred wine than Father Reggie than bothered by one and then something's gotTa give then it's complicated than the parent trap. Come on kid get to it but so last night last night Diane Keaton Keanu Reeves. We've come out as a something's gotta give Reunion. Something's gotTa give a movie. Came out in two thousand three. It's an anti Myers movie and in the movie. There's a scene in the end. Where Keanu Reeves? Diane Keaton are dating and you know they reunite for this big moment at the Oscars were obviously Rom com fans all over the world are losing obviously Veasley and I text Emma and this is the greatest thing ever I go. You know the dated right. And she's like shut the fuck up. It's one of those things that completely completely escaped my memory. Like I have no recollection of that happening when Diane Walk Down Her outfit which was like the most it was the most classic Diane key now fit and the least classic Oscars outfit Yeah. Didn't you feel like you're instagram. Just moving I felt like Charles. Porch was cheering. I felt like I was in her mirror. Salvi just started like moving he. I was so cool. Like she sticks to her style no matter what she is a fucking icon. The whole reunion idea of it was genius and I love that. It shows as serious as the Oscars the every the biggest liberties in the world are there and they all collectively can appreciate like a such a fun lighthearted Rom Com and how iconic it is just like uh-huh well the thing is is that they came out to present best original screenplay right right and they were talking about the first time that they read the something's gotTa give screenplay and it was just such a special moment but the thing Diane Cheonan Keanu Reeves is like if you're where to look up national treasures just the nicest best people of your Google Image Dictionary that search. The two of them would come up. They are definition of of. And it's like I could talk about Diane Keaton Anti in blue in the face. I think she is that special and that amazing person that we should never stop talking about. Diane John Lewis. Jack Doc Nicholson just walked out and I was like well. What's going on here? You know we're Sidhu met. Nancy Mayer is actually in the picture after it was like well maybe they do end up together in the end it was just obviously. We're sitting here praying for Diane Keen Common. which isn't going to happen and canneries doesn't have an instagram? But I gave us her second best. So that's you know undue if we're going to get anyone has a really good I RUDOLPH AND KRISTEN WIG presenting. They're just such they're just so good together. I ask you a question. Yeah can somebody explain to me why. It's better to have no host than to have them because they are to me. The best duo so fun so funny they have never never walked onstage without getting enough people. Think about them and they start laughing. My question is is it at this point is it such is it the academy's decision to not have a host or is has it become similar to the presidency. The least wanted job in America. Because it's like you can't I think it's probably a combination of both. But it's like like I don't know let's bring back the idea of it being a coveted physician but celebrated position. I said I agree I just. I can't understand. There are so many people that I you think of when they come out and like they're so fucking worthy of this honor and they would do such amazing things within the. Let's be real ostrich were born last night. I mean we're talking about so many things we haven't even even brush on the fact that like this was a boring show. I mean the officers to me will always be the top top of anything because of what it represents an old Hollywood and glamour and it's just just the epitome of everything but there's an element of it. That's missing that it used to have and if you had an amazing host and a really special night and a lot of funny skits and a lot of funny funny things like I think that we could bring that back and with just feel something's missing without the host. I agree with you. I I totally agree with you. It's at the host would ground it. It was like they would bring it back and be able to poke fun and talk about the presenters. And it's like if the presenters are host are holding it all together and stringing along the whole process like who's there it's kind of like as an as an audience member from by audience. I mean from the living room. I kinda just floating in mid air. It's like I need Steve Martin. I need Chris Rock. I need someone to tell me what's happening. XP's quite frankly the voiceovers. Not Doing as far as I'm concerned they just need to have Tina fey amy poehler. And then Maya and kristen on alternating years audiences. This is one even as the other and call it a day. Everyone be happy really anything of the sort. Also we made a note about Mark Ruffalo. He's so God damn handsome handsome hands on so God damn handsome. Sometimes you describe people's hot beautiful. He is the definition of just. Wow you're a handsome guy. One half of roker handsome from devil. Yes is a handsome devil. Yeah okay I know I'm making a bit of a jump but we need to talk about Laura Dern I'm ready to so Laura dern wins which by the way. I love her adore. Her big little lies changed. My life wasn't a fan of the dress. I can't lines was the tassels. Just didn't do it for me but fine. You know what I always say though you do not. If you you can't do ten out of ten things right yes you do nine out of ten. No Trust is the one thing that you didn't do right then so be sure and by the white hair was perfect Makeup body everything. Just what was I wasn't a fan agree. So she wins for supporting actress for a marriage story. And we've spoken about this. At I. Think the either the Golden Globe through the sat gourds recap when it came about her parents. Her parents obviously are in the arts and are actors years and so she grew up in this and she wins and she says they say never meet your heroes and I say if you're really blessed get them as your parents that was probably one of the best lines I've ever heard happy Bijelina's about the same time texted me and it's like someone check on his belt. I called my Jack and Emma economy data. Immediately he was leaving. I woke him up. Did you see Lord or anything else in your the art in your house. I that's actually a bracelet like I. That's how I feel. What does does she and I know? She was speaking in a lot of levels but also as them being actors like she. Her next line was like genius actors. Whatever but to me it was like she said what I felt in my heart so well? That's how I feel it. was you know what it was a general blanket statement about. If you're lucky enough your parents beer heroes and also in her case they were actors. That was a that was a secondary to what she felt about them. I thought it was such a special line. Such a powerful line. I literally tax with my mom right away. It was like Oh my God I love that she was like I did say now I it was like a take your breath away kind of line did you see though at the Independent movie spirit awards. The the choir singing about Laura. You know what you didn't see this. I sent you the video shows I do. I didn't see that as a comment on it. Oh sent to us. Do you want any of these comma. ooh Yes yes yes I'm sorry yes and just you is dancing to them like will live you whether or not it was a full choir singing. Lord Laura Dern and sending the singer Laura dern and she's singing and assume is that I did it. Yes I think. That's okay that that's my ringtone. Laura dern is that she's another one where we've had a lot of conversations especially on the podcast about like we finally feel like she's getting her do we. Finally the Laura Dern is everywhere she deserves it and it's amazing but I had kinda forgotten about this until somebody tweeted about it last night and a huge part of Laura dern history and acting and who she is in the industry goes back to the fact that she played Ellen's love interest in the coming out episode. and You you know so. Many conversation about being blacklisted. After that and what a deter career but Laura dern how to similar effect and she was really for a lot of years in Hollywood the blacklisted as a result of that episode. And I believe there is a conversation that her and Ellen had where Ellen said like Alan didn't really know about it and didn't know the extent of it and when Laura Dern told her ellen felt like chevelle awful and she was apologizing and Laura dern was like I would do it all over again. She viewed it as almost a privilege yet. Does the narrative breath also. There was a couple of first off the Bradley Cooper spotting. He wasn't he really wasn't in a presenter he wasn't a nominee but he no he was a producer for joker but he wasn't a pre. He wouldn't see him on screen. But don't you think that's the most underrated everyone's like. Why is Bradley Cooper here? That's what I'm saying is that you would. It was so like I was so confused as to why that wasn't made a bigger deal right. Like why didn't they milk that like. Wouldn't you have thought all over in the press cycle. I may we could be wrong. I didn't pay so much attention to the coverage of the job. That's exactly the point. You should know that Lee Cooper involved in this project like all these things he was like he was the guy last year of the Oscars. Wouldn't that be such a high point for the movie. It was so interesting and the fact that they fucking cut to Bradley Cooper with a short haircut with no uh-huh fucking morning like a sister. I was like out that like why I just hopped out of my seat like nobody warned me. Yes so that was a really nice surprise also will Farrell and Julia Louis Dreyfuss presenting. We didn't measure for some reason in the looks but she was one of my top. She was sure trauma way my top she was she was my top three. We also forgot to mention Kelly Ripa who. Oh my God. I love Kellyanne black. Yeah that was an Oscar dress down Oscar yes exactly but yet Drive us the thing with her is that she nails the just timeless beauty. Look I agree. It's not boring. It's not too subtle. It's just exactly what I want to see her and she took my breath away last night. Also Cynthia Cynthia Revo Oh singing. Stand up from Harriet. She was obviously nominated for best actress and best original song for Harriet and she won two thousand seventeen grammy for outstanding musical performance insititution program for the color purple two thousand seventeen. She won an emmy for best musical theater album for the color purple and I just she must have won a Tony for that. I two that must have been what her if she would have got it. I just I I really had a whole new appreciation for this. It's worth season and last night really brought it home. She's really she's phenomenal by the way that Oh is coming very very soon. Her Voice I was like full body chills. Run for her money. They were on par. OJ Do oh. She is incredibly talented talented vibes. Yes let's just take one second and just get I get the rest of their performances out of the way eminem out of literal left field. The if you look out of field in the dictionary it is eminem showing up on the Oscar stage singing. Lose yourself this song came out in two thousand two won an Oscar in two thousand three. He wasn't there to accept the award and he just comes. And when I tell you that I truly have never been more confused as Martin. Scorsese Adina Menzel and billy Bush. And I don't mean that in a critical way I was just more so like what the literal fuck is going on. You go glad I was just going to say like the Oscars Kinda did the crowd dirty with that because the faces everyone was making I have to assume just like why is this going on because the song came out how eighteen years ago. And why is it brand. There was no introduction. There was no it was just like here are some iconex songs that were in movies. There are so many like You know what I mean. And there was no no explanation as to why was randomly cygnus and there still is none and all of the faces in all directions. Where like I still don't get what's going on but it made? It seem like everyone was shading. Komo didn't like the performance and that's not what the case was because once he finished he got a standing ovation which is probably one of the only standing ovation of the night. Yeah it was just the did the crowd so dirty arguing that I was gonna say like all of their faces when he came out for us at home. And you need a minute. I heard that those die opening music. I was like wait a minute. I was like wait a minute. There's off my knees are weak. My palms were sweaty. I was like what I was like. Is this a mistake. I did someone just play. They're like old tunes by accident on the Oscars I will also if you saw in the beginning. He was really having some Mike Issues. which you could tell time they really like it all performers? I think at the beginning have their hand their ear but when it stays for that extra sure seconds you're like Oh shit and ended up being fine being fine but I could tell them. In the beginning. He was a little shaky. I love by the way eight mile used to be one of my favorite or movies. I mean that is like throwback of throwbacks anti Murphy. I mean come on on us. Even I've seen that I used to happen demanding battle. Memorize like you have to stop thinking that you're an eight mile also Singing yesterday again in totally their rendition not could have been done by anyone else for the in Memoriam and Kobe was first pictured with one of his quotes and it was really beautiful. She did an unbelievable job notably notably left out. Where Luke Perry and cameron voice which this warning? That's all over the media. I mean both were extremely. We are left out but Luke Perry specifically who was in once upon a time in Hollywood. I don't really understand. They set a mistake. Yeah that's what I say okay. I'm completely different. Comparisons and please don't think I'm comparing them. But that level of oversight is the way that I feel about Kim's with the Kim with the Komo thing in the sense of like how many people does this have to go through. These are not these are people that had like that. That should have never happened. I'm not like I get mistakes happen. I understand it but how many layers of revenge than it was. It was really I I. I was shocked and it was something that I definitely noticed right away. I will admit the camera boys. I didn't really realize until the morning but when I didn't see Luke Perry 'cause I was looking for it because yeah I knew he was in once upon a time in Hollywood. I thought they were going to do something kind of special to him. Like how they put up a quote with Kobe name. I thought they would have done. Think somewhere to to loop because it was such a you you know tragic death and he was involved in one of the biggest movies of the year. When I didn't see his name I was like? Is this a mistake or is this on purpose because it was very very weird to me like the fact that you would think they were going to do something even bigger than the in Memoriam for him and he wasn't even in it at all. It was weird. Bizarre also Bong Jun Ho wins best director for parasite he won. I mean parasite just swept law and so I was watching this on the red carpet but he his his translator. Who is this woman? Sharon has obviously accompanied him to every single award show. And they've really fun dynamic and I don't know if you saw this I wanna say it was Juliana interviewing him and ask about their dynamic and he's he's going on enjoy is Joanna's nodding and when she looks to Sharon to translate what what he said she's like. This is so embarrassing. Because it's all about me. She's like but he said that I. You know I was so important. And that none of like he wouldn't be here of that was really really sonae and I saw watching them and and he said at the beginning when he won best actor he's like after winning best international feature. I thought I was done for the day and was ready to relax which is so funny. Thank you so much when I was young studying. Set Him other was the saying that I carved even to my heart which is the most personal is the most creative that quotas from our great Martin Scorsese and obviously Scorsese stood up to accept the applause and they standing invasion by the way the translators highlight was the star of the show. They'd be onset homecoming. Yes which one of you texted last night and was like if that's Fendi like Brianna needs to get on a better be texting her the fuck up and she better be on the next billboard. Yeah also she like she the weight of the world on her shoulders weight of so world and she's so calm and cool and collected unbelievable. Also Elton John's performance on the Oscar win the whole thing loved. It loved him. David I could talk about him all day. Also the picture of him him with eminem backstage. You guys got to see that. It's very nice and they had people are putting it next to the same picture that they took the at a different like ten years when he performed formed at the two thousand. One grammys they perform together and that was like a huge huge moment because there were so many things about eminem being homophobic phobic. Right and Elton. John came out and supported him in saying with him. Stan and I don't know if you know this ellen. John did an interview new years and years later because they really special connection and friendship now and John says like when I got married Eminem send us. Two Golden. Cocker brings talk about Homophobic John. Yes amazing that's epic. Obviously walking winning for best actor his speech was in his speech was a lot. I am going to attempt to read it because a lot of things happening ride. It was a lot about it was it was the focus was about how ego centric we all are which is the way to sum. I'm at all I understand. I totally understand the point of just the way that he got there was It was very joaquin. Phoenix meeting of after we went through a little bit of milk it was it was around about Best Actress Renee Zellweger for Judy. Obviously I also WANNA say just two other moments that I loved Jane Fonda Presenting Best Picture obviously for parasite her getting getting that standing ovation every time she enters a room is my favorite thing. Because it's not just that we're giving her a standing ovation to be eighty heat two years old and look like that. You should get a standing ovation when you walk into the post office. The doctor's office the grocery store. I mean she's on the energy of your beyond say thank you thank you. Yes yeah like your Jane Fonda. Thank you so much. Yeah and relax and I just loved this instagram story. H She had tyco a t he won for best adapted screenplay for Joe Rabbit and he's putting his Oscar underneath the seat in front of him. I just love that moment. Those three they love for any other major moments that you wanted to discuss we miss before we get into the Vanity Fair. Looks just wish that to me. Got More airtime. Every time I saw his little. Oh face sitting there. I was like I love you so much. You Little Cutie. Although him and Natalie Portman presenting together where is he still dating lily rosed up. I don't know because they've got I hope so. They were the hottest couple I've ever. She is such a hot voice doesn't he. But first of all you know how I feel I know he really does us. And he doesn't know it or he's just figuring figuring it out but all my God it's something I guess there is definitely an NYU incident where he figured out. He was hot but other than that. He's definitely figuring out. He's Hollywood hot now. I have a fun way that I think we should do. The Vanity Fair Party is. I'm GONNA say name and show us the picture and I think we all should just say one word that sums it up okay fine except for I have to start by saying okay fine. We'll start with that and then I'll say my rest so you start okay. Shame Mitchell in hone Yada elegance Pure elegance perfect for her. Really just what her lags. Wow and those new mom breastfeeding boobs. Perfect she said she thank you. Atlas who else stunning really want Vanessa Hudgens and purple cells. That's GonNa can't do this game because there's too much okay so I don't really like being in the spotlight that Vanessa shared me in this purple Vera Wang Gown. Let me just just say we were talking about it before and I made them stop talking because I was like saved for the podcast. She broke up with Austin Butler. They broke up and she potentially got a new styles. I don't know what happened Vanessa. Hudgens has never looked better. Yeah she's doing something very fucking right and I am so happy for her. She broke her about broke up and she was reborn she jason bolden styles end. This is a side note and mostly directed at Julie. If you've been watch Styling Hollywood on Netflix. which is a documentary? Like show about Jason Bolden and his husband who's an interior designer. You're doing yourself a disservice. Jason Styles Taraji p Henson Literally everyone and Vanessa last night at this party looked so fucking phenomenal. We couldn't but like we could believe it but it was. It was like her like coming out like I'm hot. I'm young. I'm an actress here. I am and I'm single and here I I am also Sierra pregnant stunning his shoulder dot as Kylie in Ralph Noor so which she said I consider. It didn't even matter if you're right it didn't even matter. Also Kylie's video of her Khloe Courtney and Travis in the very bieber esque kind of intervene render van Travis has never looked so stoned. He's mid rolling of live Courtney's eating non now a free way. She's not eating gluten free trips. She is sitting there eating whole y. The enrolls came to look up foods with the most amount of fucking glue. And it would give you king's Hawaiian Rolls. Don't ever say the word gluten-free to me again. Creating I'm GONNA a throw that bag of wine roles in your face like a Hawaiian role in a Napkin. She was elbow deep in the king's good for you. How good did that feel courtney? How did it feel aww elbow deep in Hawaiian Rolls? Because I've been able to even wind roles and I know how it feels elbow deepen wireless after a couple of drinks come on. Oh my Khloe in that white dress. I I want more photos of her gets. Yeah that's it Emma Roberts was gonNA save my mvp for Vanity Fair's is regarded she now she could be my mvp tonight. I don't even know that when I saw that. I like jaw-dropping jaw-dropping this is Margot. Robbie wishes quite frankly she would look good not dress really margot. Robbie would look unbelievable in the stress. Emma Roberts came out of left field and stunned and she didn't she stunned. Wow Haley. Haley looked insane eligible and SCA in this chaparrals. That purple Chaparrals Spaghetti Getty shop dress was you know what did you think about A. Obviously we love Kim economy together and I loved Connie's what did you think about Kim's dress. I obviously loved it or I archive McQueen shipwreck oyster. It's kind of iconic in like Kim is so serious about fashion and I think she gets frustrated when people like don't understand and it and it's like you know you're going to the Like Red Carpet Party in these are all over instagram. People don't really get it. You're not in vogue in Annetta to`real and I understand understand her frustration because this is such an iconic dress and then such conic look and she got it from Khan and she looks fucking sick totally agree with you but I I kind of just to play devil's advocate. It's Kinda like I get the high fashion thing but you've already established yourself as being in that space. Maybe something different but I think with Kim. It's not about gotTa stop wishing I think Kim had to get to. I think him cares about fashion so deeply so much that so much of her career was getting to a point where she could wear something like this and it's not about a sobbing. You're establishing yourself. It's not about showing off. It's not about making a statement. This is just what she wants to wear and I think she worked her entire career to get to that point. And I think this was a this was a moment for her where I get that. You think she's frustrated. I don't I think she's hit a point where she's like. I don't give a fuck what you think had to wearing this dress and it is so perfect for me. It's exactly what I wanna where it's so high fashion the fashion that I care about and that I've worked my entire career career to get to a point of and I am proud to be wearing stressed. The Vanity Fair doesn't need to wear like a backless cleavage tight. Show her ass off dress anymore. She you just come. Whatever the bourgeoisie I will say though her economy during a photo shoot in their shower and the little crevice between the grass and their bathroom wall was everything I needed him more looked insane? No but now. He doesn't know we just recently he used to and now he's bringing back and it's so nice to fucking say look real there. There was like a moment where he would wear a grey sweatsuit off into the Vanity Fair to make a statement and I just in a shiny suit. It's where you blow. Here's the thing with them is that I. I think a lot of the Times. You know. Connie did this thing where he let her shine and he took the step back and he was fine doing that. He was happy to do that. And he's made that statement and now it's nice to see him match are exactly exactly now. It's nice to see them. Both sides Collignon get there one day also. I want to just end unless there's any other looks the on topics I want to talk about usher. That's I mean. Obviously there's there's emerald but I don't want to talk about. That was little Raleigh. There were a million. I mean we could go on about this forever and highly had a second look to. I don't know who this was but this off the shoulder. Read Gal the album Ska we we just again. Zana's calling it in a couple minutes. We're going to cut to that but I just want to end with. I wish she all could have been in the room when Isabel saw assures Vanity Fair. Look he's in this white silk almost jogger like suit and Isabelle was was just screaming usher in white silk and I got it I so got it resonated with me a shirt came out to fucking play. He has been more prevalent this year in my life than he has has been in previous years. And you know something. I am just so happy exist. Assure is on par with Cynthia rewrote for like one of the MVP award season. And he wasn't even really in she. She was one of the biggest movies of the year song everything about Winnie got an usher just here for the ride and let me tell you I appreciate you anti something magical things happen. You put on a white Silk Beaumont suit Eytan that the truth absolutely okay. We are now going to cut a two hour conversation with Santa. Hello how are you. I'm great thank you. Great totally exhausted after doing a red eye in seven liked liked TV. Yeah I mean with with Fashion Week and everything we know how crazy it is. So thank you again for doing this. We so appreciate it is such a pleasure. I'm a huge fun. Oh thank you so we spoke a little bit on our episode kind of about some of our favorite red carpet looks but we needed to hear from the expert we. Can we just get I if you had to choose your number one of the night. Oh my number. One of the night would be. I think John L. A. Yes stat was literally like floated onto the topic giving total total Princess Leia vibes You'd have the Ralph Lauren address on one hundred sixty eight thousand crystals in it. It was a work of art an up close and personal extra show striking such drama. You know that that's a good one. She she looked stunning we are. We're curious as if you agree with us because we thought Scarlett Johansson looked one of the best we've ever seen her luck agreed one hundred percent she had the Oscar address on that they And exactly the right but I mean it was just it was like sprayed on. It looks so good. I like deconstructed Corset. With still the threat anything that was beautiful. It looked like it was almost coming undone. Oh my God I couldn't believe it I was. I mean. She's always so beautiful that last night it was just something different something something coming just different. You know yeah frightened. There's a freshness to a Haruna made couples. Well gave the tension between the very done. Look Lo oh and then the ease of the That beauty for sure. Also what did you think about. Charlie's into your I loved it. I mean he was stocky like she literally is a five foot. Ten veterans like she's so beautiful It was a definitely wasn't like trying to I wasn't like look may dress the You can't help but look like five ten for sure. No I mean I think there was while there were a lot of over the top looks. There was definitely something about the simplicity. And for for us that was exemplified by Julie. Dreyfus rolling. That was you're so right with the simplicity and I think you know she knows sounds what works for as well and I just like the punch to the front of the low back the it looks like such a simple dress but she the simpler address. The hodder is to get the perfect fit. Exactly every lumpen bomb. You see every little thread so you get like like a Taylor like an a house like there. Wang doesn't show well so well on those drills. Oh my God of the forgotten how many Jews on the carpet. We have statement necklace. That's what we were saying big night for the statement diamonds everywhere just the copy was selected with security us. Imagine there was also a lot of Chanel. Penelope we cruise Margaret Qualley Obviously Margot Robbie we had billy island. What was your if you had to choose and I guess we don't you don't even need to? But what did you think about the Chanel looks. I love them all. I mean it was such a big night for Chanel. I think they dipped into the the Kyaw Vintage Pieces Mago then. They made something new and so different. Reaffirmed Billy I unless you know it's like how great to be able to transcend so many different generations. Billy I'll just kind of my favorite though. I might the tweet. The glove the broaches she was and it was so her and so what I would have wanted to see her in in for the Oscars it was like. She did something different but stayed true to who she was. It was perfect for sure. Exactly the green route could not have done it without so something that we always feel happened. Is that that. oftentimes the after Party looks actually sometimes superior to the actual show you at. I don't know about you but we were freaking out over some of those vanity. Fair air looks good. No good I was like why wouldn't give it up for the coughing preaching. We tell you wait so tell me. What are your favorites I loved Charlotte's is actually. That was a moment the gold fringe just shining. She came and she was going to be Oscar for the Vanity Fair Party. I also loved a floor. Infuse the we sundress yes site site. That gold. Silver metallic like melted metallic dresses beautiful. I loved her. I loved her Oscar. Look also actually yeah. She killed it. I mean she's doing so so well right. And she's got a new guy you know. She's the new girl and everyone. Everyone wants addresses you kinda like Gemma channels last year. I say thank Stylus. Is it resemblance. Hold on but yeah I did love her carpet. Look to I can't believe Zach braff just gets to go to the Oscars on Florence Pews Art. I am believable to me. I know I know at Florence did arrive in a Van Decrease the dress so I was what she takes him as a stylish. She's on away in the van like laying down alley like JEN like Jennifer Aniston I. Guess now it's amazing. They don't even do the cause any more. A whole new world of transit bent. So let's stand up the revolutionary. Honestly right yeah. Totally we We were obsessed with an ESA Hutchins also in that purple appropriate. I loved it so really. Many beautiful draft draft great cuffs for sure. Who else will you really crushing Emma Roberts Vanity Fair I have so many things to say about the Vanity Fair? Looks Emma Robert at that Vanity Fair Party to me. She was top of the top. One of my favorite Kerry Washington in that. He didn't like to peace. He's crop top set. She was a knockout. I thought it was so funny off the plane at five. Am this morning. So I hadn't seen any of these looks and they were all like coming through. Live pillow parts. You know quite we couldn't go to sleep. I'm sure you're probably not right there fairly but you know that's a coffees. He's four we have to ask you about Kylie and Kim Kylian Kim. So Cama Matt wowed. I was actually just with her head. Chris Appleton Himself Big Fan so good. The head was so beautiful it was like he's mastered this kind of wet look on her the appropriate for a red carpet which is really hard to do She looks amazing and then Kendall. I Gene Kimmelman supermodel. But they all it was just it was it was W- yeah that was a good one. They brought every single one of them carried their weight yet. They did they did. They carried their way in diamond. I submitted before we let you go. Did you have a favorite moment from physically basically being there. Because you know it's one thing for us to talk about it from the sidelines. But you were really in on all the action favorite moment. I think it's funny when you're around. All the women to these people are actually slept. Because they're also close up to each other you're on a very small cockpit it bizarre place to be because you you realize that these are like Hollywood's famous people but the reality is throw bumping into each other and like right and getting them runny gough fixing the hair and it's it's kind of seeing these people be quite normal and then the images. I should get protected and not those but it's quite an experience. Yeah no everything love adrenaline off at five Panamanian. Yeah I'm sure I mean we were so happy to watch you or you killed. There's always and we're so appreciative. You calling so thank you thank you. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you seven New York. You'll have to do something for sure. 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Yeah I'm actually because I when you suggested I like personally that's a good idea and secondly as like I don't remember any so it's GonNa have a look so I think yeah I look I look because the Golden Globes had lost wrong thoughts so yes yes so that we all main feature but we have of course before that got you knew. Don't you know you're not par? They're like I said it doesn't always had a glittery caller Byron you did. He did have one but it was dark. Blue now. Glittery color is a lighter. Blue Makes Jeff wanted to color. That would pop. I quit my husband directly when he said let's get him a color that will pop. I appreciate it does so disarmed us. So you'll like it. It looks very debonair. Lovely stuff nice. Yeah News So. This isn't technically news. But I wanted to stop by because I went there and I liked it so it was news to me. I posted this on our instagram. And everyone's very excited. 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My friend Adam a good friend of mine he used for Oscars makeup. I think winning harlow and a couple of other girls and he said it's he was like it just feels really smooth. It kind of covers way you want it to but you can also. It's quite like a malleable conceal. You can do a lot with so and that is twenty six dollars each survey excited about that. The law of conceals happening at the moment between the deal and the hourglass stool of Medina Orleans. I do as well. I like the HOURGLASS. Just it was a little bit too dry. I haven't tried that one yet. You have to try and also New Zealand coming from Mcgrath I know I know is this is it because I'm like well. Maybe I don't need to buy it but then I remembered who I am not going to send it me so if I want to get after by it. That is out very soon as well. We'll have more news on now. Get it Yeah that's the next extension to the skin fetish line. We'll check that out. Also a lot of the moment lip glosses yes. I've seen quite a few locations. Yeah that's it isn't it time yeah lip gloss. It's Liz. Laurels SPRAYING GROUNDBREAKING. Time plus compus. It's true So we have a new formula coming from culp which quite excited about. Yeah me too and I loved those new liquid lips so I know you've got I think they're going to sell out. I get your hands on though I'm always going to be more from out lover than liberals parents I know you are. Y'All that you for it fine but they are bringing out the locks gloss velvet was the one. We talked about last episode. Everyone yeah which is nice. I it will be for me because I'M GONNA buy Lindsay Schaub on. But they are discovered. Cushy high shine hydrating nourish and soften with an exclusive blend of extracts is black rose. Poppy seed Madagascar Vanilla. That's the only thing that I'm not Super Mad about because I love Vanilla Vanilla. I'll take it. I'm not like Oh. Yeah even Ella but yeah they look really pretty. It's the same packaging as the liquid lips. Little the locks velvets agree on the same time but in either like the Gos- but that seems fine. Yeah I'll see you get the same shade indifferent finish. Yes that makes me very team that does more and obviously it's COPA. It's massively affordable which is delighted by again. Oh of course Oakland. All because one day it's going to be like to meet Patten overlooked. You're American Google. His name Frank. Frank Butcher Dot Com compile king and Queen of the old vic Yes paragraphs just out a bunch of glosses as well. She'd already outlook. She had glosses. But it's a new collection of courses that A lot more expensive than the pope ones. Let's just say that they are? They have a name happened name. The I can't remember because I remain on goodness yes up. You lost glosses. Shimmery varies Sparkley. Yes it's all about Shimmer Michigan. So yeah I feel like some of the other glosses had some glycerine. But I've the ones I've got are not Shimmery. A and I do love gloss formula. It's absolutely gorgeous but the OP. He lost is all Shimmer. All the time not inexpensive. Yeah not not really girl pop level. One I'm interested in trying actually is Marc Jacobs Beatty. We talk about as much as we used to. Actually I was going through my show pilots hop into counting recent. I know that me myself and I did I finish. Oh I've got my. Marta equals one and I get lots of Saddam's sons face. Dm's when decant beautiful things was options? First thing where I was I kinda come the packaging from From Nick Jacobs icon. But I do like the ipod of makeup. Yeah I really love. Marc Jacobs Pack. It probably will get to count on me. But I haven't played for ages and I forgot how good they loved when fulmer single shadows they all gorgeous and you got me into the conceit or I love the legal basis as well. He's our as part of the expansion of their coconut. Line SAYS CLICK COCONUT OIL GLOSS. Which I'm actually very interested in Sukuzi moment moment having Glossy magazine I love clear gloss but then it gets monkey doesn't it that's the thing. Monkey GROUCHO CARVE SOFTER. Really want to spend money on a gloss. It's going to go monkey this module as well as quite sexy so we'll see I like that. He does the white range the coconut springs off. It feels like the Tom Ford say Tom Ford. They do at different times. It's just gonNA lounging on your shades. Long I'd love cats have so so very very mariah Carey Donkey kicks at the gym so I cannot do that. Nice spin class. This morning about died Linzo. Not that I forgot that I because I had a doctor's appointment people I'm fine. I thought I was just popping in Philly consultation. Type things things like. I'm going to go to the gym. After and be good and veto pleased with myself and ruled myself going to the gym and then they took loads of blood. And I really didn't think about it. I was like ooh. They took more than I watch while they're doing it and I don't after I left. I'm like oh she seems a lot of my blood. Don't do anything. Strenuous straightened. Like like press two hundred POWs fine fine donkey kicks and timber trouble for Britain out of every. Walk casual casual embarrassed to leave. Anderson's wave is tailing your face. He's like straight here. I'm trying to make him. Oh he's he's he's also is down to get fed. He's leaning into me like I don't like it but I'm yeah this is my food. Strike him he just lays on the floor. Now that's nice. It makes me a little bit sad for him but we have new puppy. Actually that is some new news that we have a new edition. His name is Ronald when he's not Ronnie most of the time. He's another little risky blessed so he's very shy but he's obsessive Paddington Paddington. Ninety percent of the time reciprocate. Same love for others. So yeah he's doing really well lonely. Yeah he's he's doing really well but yeah enough a little bit of Life News of her second child and you look great. Oh she's been giving birth to my talk tracks understand that one more thing. I wanted to make sure you news on. It's really just a heads up. It's going to come out and it's going to sell out and we all know this is going to happen New Jeffrey Star polit blood. Sugar family a blood lost loved law. Halifa we what hurtful essay I kind of guessed it might be pepple onto Sundays headbutting. The microphone because I was thinking about it and then I'm like well. He's done red and blue purple one. There wasn't instead purple. Ou is nice. Yeah it's massive on its velvet. You're gonNA Treat Yourself Linzo because it looks beautiful. But it's massive mentioned eights massive. I'm not really a purple Gal. All especially crushed velvet. Go Yeah I know what you mean. So why the the red? The blood blood sugar Which in my head. They weren't especially my callers either. There were a lot of wearable callers in that as well. I love that and the packaging even though it was massive feels like a big old vhs. Because that's it was easier to stash the Shane Dawson Palette. Which I do really like. It's just a bit massive. I think this is the thing. Sometimes like when things are made for like collector's value or their collaboration as much as beautiful is somewhat harder to use them. Aren't pack them. You can't take them away with you All you have to take out to do that. Well that's the thing and I also feel so weird when it's Jeffrey Star because he is a makeup artist and he works with Sony makeup artists. And like you know what you're doing so like why are you making everybody's life difficult Jackson out but I get the pigment and the quality to me is fantastic. His School Miller is absolutely beautiful but he does make product to be collectible. Yes to the dressing table dressing table. Special it's not like one that's going into draw with Dell Pilots Yep. I'm surprised that it doesn't make a pro edition. Yeah I feel like that could be a route that he ends up going in on. So yeah the Joe. Mcgrath doesn't do that as well wish. She would be amazing because her speaking accounting for anyone who gives a beep a pot one's a really really hard to count because the noise then no entertain line up he's got hacked to pieces and also tastes like baked. Sometimes you can take them all bait. He's a very it's a conundrum. Yeah Melissa Nightmare. Pack OPA OPA offering packed in metal to have a prohibition of your eye shadows. Play is particularly. You're asking for better. Another reason to buy us off. I wouldn't be mad about if I was A. Oh honestly listen. Says I agree. He's into it he's into his Dylan. Well I guess it's time Lindsay is is we can take a quick break and then when we get back from said quick break. We're going to talk about the CAS Hollywood's biggest night. Sorry what was it three days ago. Now eight what is now days ago. I was on a plane so I missed it. I was working on this without it was three days ago Sunday evening. Yeah Fischbach everyone loves it was over. It was over a week to you. But we're speaking to you from the past the actual time travel so it was. It was only three days ago. I watched the Red Carpet. And then hotter gonNA clain red carpet now. Even I've seen that transitions make PA. I'm always fascinated if you guys. Think to yourself Lindsey. You find south using red carpet. Makeup has really got braver than it's ever been. I feel like I know there's always housing Ling's share. It's been a bit boring. I think just I believe maybe boring brave these days like maybe I mean. Don't get me wrong always going to stand for Lucy Boynton. Yeah I'm always GONNA say Joe Baker Unexciting Shit on her face. Stop loads of Shit on her face and she's beautiful so she's carrying off. I'm going to wear it down the supermarket but she looks stunning. One thing. I love about the way. Joe Baker does Lucy's is they. Don't overreach anything yes. You always see her skin imperfections. You always see the texture of her skin. We Larry honest but whilst being very editorial and Berry lead which I do love him. I just felt like this. The golden gloves were worse for. I think the Oscars was a little bit better but there was just like everyone either had a no makeup. Look Statement Harley lip and no makeup SOCIA- Ronin same face. Everything she went. Jude derive their this Shit Halo Water and then like I bet you person it was beautiful by how well translated to the red carpet. It just felt very underwhelming for me. But then that is in itself brave. All there was a lot of new lips or nude I read lip. Just love seeing a bit more excitement. Well I think you guys should check out. There's a make part is called Sandy. Gums are saying her name right and she works with Hunter Schaefer Sheet. It's really cool things so she did. I'm trying to find the references now so I can show you all I say show you all is if you can all see yukons pointless but we'll tell you what she even made those worn award season. She did recently with hunter where she actually made. Like shroff sqi finger casing so she baso and I thought that was really fun and she did. She did this. She kind of took the crystals like across the bridge of the news. And I think when makeup is like you said that's the word I would play for so it kind of goes out the comforts almost costume. It's a little hard because the skin is still natural. I feel like it does what you wanted to do. But you like. That's cool so I deck definitely recommend checking out Sunday guns to Sunday. Andy White G. A. N. Z. E. E. R. Recommend but yeah. That's beautiful checking HASTA foul. Also when there are so many young women young women women who are just bad ass. I like seeing them. Play a just a little bit safe. Unlike I love Beets Bates I never know. How does he waits? She looks amazing to me. Every time she breathes I think she stunningly beautiful Really loved her. Look but even that like look because they think they put so much emphasis on her head so is also has a natural curls. Show them all piled up they were really the focal point of her. Look really just didn't do anything to her face and she's going she doesn't need anything doing. Yeah wouldn't it be fun if we did? It's a real hard one because I think like I love the exciting like nuances may cut wire. It's playful little out that no so that you wouldn't be able to wear it via but then I also see I'm also a soccer fa like of Runako lay sort of like you know I love. I love old for me. Well and speaking of an old Hollywood Janelle monae yes to me. The most beautiful modern interpretation of that she had yeah gorgeous. Orange Red Lips of the Orange. That made it fresh and beautiful. That is just very lightly smokey but nothing was too much it was also pretty balanced and then the beautiful Saipa and then address was ridiculous kind of get married again so that was a brilliant draft and the makeup didn't address the orange pop on the lip really drew your. Yeah that's it. Brought such a perfect mix of the dress in the makeup working together An anyone could do that. Anyone could do that make up yes I love it. It's just so pretty. Yeah I think I mean it's funny because I think when I see someone without like traditional set in their a red lip and just a couple of like individual lashes and it all looks yet margot Robie but even slightly more to sort. I feel like that's like deconstruct almost like broth. Over his head because stayed left her roots and they left the inches of re-growth lake on an off day. I mean it was just like oh I don my beautiful finger waves and everything set gorgeous. But then we just didn't bother to do a roots but we do a makeup which. I thought was really interesting choice because if it had been perfect maybe it would look to perfect. Yes I did enjoy. I did enjoy the focus on nails as well. I've become more of a thing. Now that the season like obviously billy eyelash like that was a statement. The whole thing the chanel. The green hat loved it. I thought that was so she's INCR- and I love that she kind of enjoy that she will have like very nude face but then you know the half the lime green and the nails. It kind of feels relief package. I think is so interesting with her being so young and so creative and so talented and to lean into is such an early age. I think is incredible. Would terrify me to be as successful as she has been at that age. I'm like airy after but I love the because this is the thing you could so easily if you took her out of the oversize outfit took away the green. She's just a beautiful little doll. Yeah let's do such a good job of making her allowing her to communicate who she is through her style she just beautiful job of that and I love late chaired the Gucci Outfit. One and then the Chanel out fair the other like she just looked made the Makeup as it was stunning because it was so clean and beautiful really beautiful. I'm just looking through the images. Now I mean so just so many new I think because again also when you talk about zombies like her nails recall she had like little. She's about she had like a little cutout on. Hannah which was like a black tip but it was like in a diamond shape and I to me. I love it when you think okay after you really sheet. And there's just one tiny little detail like just catches your eye like for me. That is always really fun when it's like just something playful but you're always having to like you either find accidentally or you're kind of like. Oh Okay Yeah Yeah No. There was just so many interesting. There were sorry there were a lot of grown out blondes. Actually she says with their own growing up blonde girl. Kristen wig that as well there are a lot of people in Florence. Pugh had that as well and also. I think the short hair again. I think that's coming through like lovely. Livia feel like cheese. Right in the comedy. The Yeah Beautiful. Did she looks she brilliant? I thought she looked wonderful. Then in Britain type Anatomy Britain win pitches looks so fresh and perfect and like she just got up from the most glorious nap of all time so plump US always use describe a roast chicken so most of them. I'm going to say that clients. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa Make Chicken Cynthia Rio. What was about the bleach blondes? I love that that to me which now is not going to load and Cynthia Repo look was such. That was a statement look that she was really announcing itself all this she was nominated. Harriet it was like you. All you named after Harry and Tomlin I know okay. Just checking but yeah. I think that she really has announced herself in this award season by saying not only my here like I actually look. I should have been here my entire life to come out with that bleach-blond platinum crop and then dress was gorgeous as well but then like the very big statement. Dark is amazing nails. I really thought that to me was like a look. I'm here like love. Look I'm here. I wonder if we're going to see more men. Were I mean? Obviously I can tell you is make parties. I would say predominantly all. The men were wearing removing. We put it in the Industry Aka a little bit of concealing empowered. The has kinda done but I wonder if we can see more men experiment with makeup. I know that men have definite experiments fashion on the right call. Beloved empress spillage say. He's amazing but I think because of him now. I wonder if men are going to take more risks on top it. You know maybe experimenting with me like I think that would be really interesting. Is that last year's Oscars this last year's gone so fast but when cody fern who is also an American horror story with billy porter and he had a beautiful. I and he's gorgeous. It's stunning yes. He had a really beautiful I and gets run or something I knew he did. Say He's like a lovely finger wave peaceful. Yeah I thought he might do like an eye moment. Maybe it was very very subtle but it was maybe just because I know those boys like to Fox with the eyeliner yes even Antonio does like a bit of Guy Liner. We love that. They will look great. Obviously I thought Anthony. My auntie my to give a pop of Yeah Aubergine. I had something like that. The flick from Jovian I. I am all here for the short hair on the carpet. Yes me too. I think. That's very lovely woman Natalie. Portman looked like yes and I feel like the funny thing is when you think of Oscars I feel like the looks to IC- kind of and again I feel that classic. Look so I don't mind them. I just think that I notice year after year. In addition to the clean and the smoky is which is an artist. I'm off to do so. Yeah I feel like the era. The ice maze people not towards nearly always the fifties so phan and I would love to see more like twenty s looks more like with one of the goals. I was lacking. We did like a sort of bieber inspired to Harry's instagram. And look at it immediately. It's absolutely beautiful hangs down. I loved it. I was like this pleased but then also it's hard because sometimes it depends on here working with them what they kind of want and oversee. There's a styling stylist involves working with them and the address and it's quite a big overall plan of how everything will go but I I would love to see. Yeah I I like I said I love look I love that kind of fifty s like I definitely think Brie Lawson. I think we lost as well like she looked very grace. Kelly this yeah. She looked stunning. I love Nina parks work thoughts. Who does have a cop beat for but yeah I would love to see more like you know kind of inspiration from like like ninety S? It'd be quite cool to see someone at grungy like grunge made really read carpet lip. Yeah but then it was all a very it was not. It was more two thousand. Yeah Toned Down Kim Kardashian. Yes exactly that muted neutral lip and then you get a bigger smokey. I yeah exactly which I get it. We love it. Yeah we looked like Penelope Cruz had that and she lost on Bob just totally an sockets snacks. I mean popular. She left. She liked literally. Looks like she's getting younger. Sheila Fantastic I. Yeah I feel like that's my only thing. I would like to see more like see more variation of like ear as being appropriate. You know because Zaleski. This doesn't mean it has to be yet Hollywood. It can be all kinds of different Hollywood just like it was a fifty nine to fifty. Yes so I mean. I'm not saying let's go back to the eighteenth who didn't love Sharon McKay. I mean well funny enough I was doing some for Golden Globes and the styling references. Were quite a few of them. Were like we share. They were saying with the poker straight very Nelson Cruz. Tend to ask the only person that I'm GonNa hate the Debbie Downer reduced. Because I've met me. The Lily Aldridge was on all of the best see raft. Up just was bored. This is boring lily. Aldridge beautiful thing put anything on her and it would say out of central power with a bit of a wave top boundaries and then it was literally just a straight red lip an eye. And I'm just like that to me is why why bother me away. It's just like the house like I could do that tomorrow. Day Lindsey House. I just more fun especially when this is Lucy Boynton so much because again. Lucy pointing Traum with Cobra handful of US face and then she'd looking credible I won't spill. I'm sure she's lovely and she wouldn't appreciate it but she'd look amazing so we love the fact that she is like it's GonNa be fine all washes off. There's another photo opportunity tomorrow. Let's play fun from working with actresses in particular. I think that there are some people feel comfort. Look all it so it's like certain things make them feel that sells and I don't think it's that they don't want to experiment with is not broken. Don't fix it. I think it's very much like that's why I feel good in. You have to remember. The red carpet is terrifying. And like your remarks but it's the same dress in front of Jennifer Aniston. Kinda always looks. I'm always about Jennifer Aniston's interview magazine cover which I realize is not the Oscars but still own my God. Oh my I've got like a few years to catch up on gender furnace allies fifty first birthday. I will also be on interview magazine and a pair of underpants looking like a goddess. We make sweet because someone sent you sweets. I It shows you know. She's I'm like makes guys. I don't advocate for anything. Other than body positively. But I do advocate for me to my own clothes again. So that's stop but she just looks incredible and I I do love that and I think that's just the difference between I exactly what you're saying you're so right because there's always look. I will go back to. Yeah if I don't feel good about something but as such a difference between having a look the just makes you look like you're comfortable in your own skin. Which is how I was thinking Jennifer Aniston. She looks like she is most comfortable. South a knows US. Elfin isn't going to do anything that makes it not feel comfortable verses it just looking a bit of a raw orbit boring because you don't want to get in a row let you want you want to be comfortable. But you don't WanNa be bored you as well if I think if people finish my mouthful no gopher I mean. We're amongst friends if I think about it. The people who I was really excited when they're these kinds of awards one of them is Tilda Swinton. Yes Drew Barrymore used. It was amazing. Loss may still love announced. Looks amazing but I loved her early days of award. Cs grenade powder is she was almost like the pre Lucy Boynton and not very very creative makeup so I loved up training. What stands out again. Like you know when the Brielle Larson thing and that very like nude kind of like the the Maldonado fifties hair pinned back like grace Kelly with news. Make up a bit. Like what good is did when she harrow? Sky Like this definitely like grace go. There are definitely certain. Looks I think and also I think it's interesting when someone is nominated as well. I think sometimes when the nominated. That's when sometimes dare. I say they do play it more safe. I think voters yeah so I can go to on what to do. What works I just? I mean usually I feel like there's always articles after the Oscars where it's like this. Look or this Oscar nominees secret. I didn't see how this shakes. I didn't really think there was anything. That was like a bold statement. I Tim used on anyone. That's like US an orange red slip into blue red lift gate. You send a blue red lip. Yeah there was nothing that really jumped out at me other than everyone looked pretty for me. I was just a pretty maybe it was. It was a pretty off skiers and I think for me I always love referencing. Posterity's like as where I get the most enjoyment and it's funny I was looking actually through Like some images of like what was it like the tens twenties. They were kind of going through all and there was loads of share references of the power of the old town on a lot of it. But then also you know in your mind if things I think now to me a really iconic like when Jill Julia Roberts will address with the white and the black and the woman. She had the hair and everyone went. Not Yes yeah and she had the bud light. You could do that today. Never like Oh my God. That's amazing shed on Harris on even like. Yeah it's so funny. How Times change I think in terms of what people whereas I feel like could whether dead so wondrous again and people would still be confused. Yeah there is not the time for built. And I love vintage winona Ryder go Roy. Another one that's getting younger. Yes I know. It's so true here else. Did I love. I'm trying to think who else on the day but again I'm looking through old old like seventies Anjelica Huston as well like somebody posts train going out yesterday. A train a chain of tweets. I'm sure a bunch of you saw them. But it was a bunch tweets because someone posted a picture of what they thought was. Patrick Stewart with her and it was it was. Shuzo is another actor who had passed away recently. Who is like oh not recently passed away was much younger than Patrick Shit. We're just happened to look a little bit like Patrick share. But then that everyone posting old photos like actual voters of Patrick Scheuer firstly total fox. So that was impressive on Anderson agrees and then people's following up with other old photos of stars are older now in the younger days and the heyday. Because quite frankly it's still hotties but there was of mckellen as a young guy so beautiful like so painfully beautiful but then they saw on the ladies and I was just like would you look at that and they had Helen Mirren in when she was twenty. He's GonNa say Hello. Mary doll she. She has on the regular patch. Lay yes she me. Yeah always been stunningly. And they had a Judi dench when she was a baby. And it was a picture of betty white in nineteen so these are like head shots from her studio days and it was like. Oh my God. She's like a proper. Yeah Guide Cupid Lit. Yeah very much like that. Nineteen forty sweetheart lurk. Yeah Oh my God look at this. It's amazing see. I love going back and seeing also love watching people develop over time. Yeah because it's not that interesting if they just always look the same well. I think everything takes inspiration from something. That's probably already been you know it's hard to. I'd not saying things is impossible to be original but I think things are always be reinterpreted. We're always so impressed by Fokin. Lucy Boynton was a very classic. Hollywood is a twist on very laughable. Clean Skin Red Lip yet defined is but then they made the lashes so spiky a country which I thought that was nice as well. So that's how Coco Chanel Yell Twenties Red Lip but then you flip made it. Modern looks like she's going extensions on the lower lashes as well I think she does. I have had through the grapevine that she does have amazingly long normal. I'm she's like how Amazing Queen. But even billy eyelash like. I was just thinking if we look into everyone who's referencing. The past like who is now to me probably Lucy Boynton billy eyelash but even billy Irish like it's still punk. Yes yes even like how like Susie sue and that sort of little. Yes you've got A. It's a no makeup look. She has makeup on. Yeah obviously but that's very punk aesthetic to have brightly colored hair and no makeup on your face and like she had the crazy nail. You know just like yes. She's very modern and she's you could not notice her because she s stands out from the crowd and such an intense way. But there are still references. Yeah little nod saying things that have already been just so I do. Kinda want to. I want you to get off an hour on her face. I mean it is a close up here and she's clearly got beautiful highlight on. She's got more on just got blush on. They might just want to like. I've turned into my non. I want to be like to pull your hair back. Show is you're pretty sure should live live. Show is your lovely face is a very very yup. I love that. She's just looks like herself. Those are one that looked like Oh. I don't think I could say like she's GonNa look and it's really it's on brand for her and I really appreciate that and I like the lime green with the black. I kind of Love Dogs. It feels like those like a stick a rock into. I'm into what she does next. Because I keep reinventing herself she's Madonna or lady Gaga. He sort of like style of old baby. So it's like tiny it would make a lot of Sun. Lime Green will start messing up era. Eventually so she's going to want to think about that. I set off water. Someone who's having to grow out some of the long. It's not as it is. I think the Oscars roundup for US pulled on us. Well Talk People Lindsey. All you did was that it was shit. I was pretty. It was really fair to just didn't see very many things that made me go. Woo which I like to go I once I should run into some interesting stuff. I think she does. Sometimes I think I think things to me like she's got such an interesting but Howard loves to make up. She's literally on my dream. We went to a little women. Screening Me Jeff. Before Christmas after Christmas and we saw her on stage and she looked incredible. Yeah but all of her red carpet looks or all season. Looks have been. This Pale Watercolor Wash. Which is pretty interesting. On this event. Firstly her dress outfit was just like beyond you. Look give me get off yet to me and times it by several. 'cause you're slight the flight little thing But she had read lip and I don't think I'd seen her in a red light especially not in person. Because why would I but she had a head pull back which is like tendrils lose tendrils down and then she had a really bold red letters and it was dark. I think as well for me. She's on people that I would love to make pump because I feel like she looks amazing. No makeup but she also look really great with quite a bit of May cop. Yeah I think she can buy that. I don't mean like heavy layers make but I mean she could take a big bold I or like something. Quite inch cut would work really well on her. Just remind me is actually really more. I always think looks interesting yet. I think she always rocks a lip and that kind of no makeup look with the lip really really well. Yeah I feel like there's very minimal scar like I kind of liked that she'll choose something and I thought she definitely plays with on the outfit choices. Roy's interested yet. She's not someone who does certainly playing it safe. She's definitely having fun with it. And especially this year. She was there. Supporting her engage. You walking so that you know. She knew she was going to be in photographs. Play it safe. It was like she had a really interesting. Yeah Gown on an interesting look yeah the old Mara Guy Field Bruni around fairmount Ada. Well let's just use to live narrows in civil late. Uta All the time. It's not because it's when you see a proper famous person just like going down the street get coffee in the. She's really very very la. It's very scary very ally. Oh my God we're like so. La But that really is it Oscars which means it's time for one thing one thing only the thing. The thing highlight off. The I love that we can look each other now. We don't even have to know it. Belleville how they communicate code or she did not look. Happy Shea does not look I would you know what Belbow you're not? My highlight of the week. The reasons as well spill my highlight of the week is something. We are new news there the week on it is because I have been obsessed with them. The MAC glow play blush. Is Everyone Love Them? Because they're actually really good and you think about how many launch and how many collections might launch a lot and how often a new product from them actually gets cut through in the way that this house. Yes that you see everywhere you see everyone talking about everyone playing with it. I I'm obsessed with them was with my fingers. It's still probably my preference. But also I've found lake the real techniques smaller buffing brush is quite firmly bristled is really nice to buffet. I thought like a synthetic type. Yeah because obviously the fingers tightly packed as you can get an just a loose brush doesn't pick up enough enough product but those smaller chisels of puffing brushes a beautiful forgetting really diffuse water calories or look with it and the shades are just so pretty. There's a renewed shade the news and kind of as contour or like this is a soleil. Dan Type Product. Because I'm so fair can do that with it and there's a peachy pink that I really love the lavender pink. I am obsessed with. That's been my shoes. It come in loads on them as low. It's it's I think is eleven or twelve. I CAN'T REMEMBER. We talked about last time. I've forgotten but I love them so much. I use them on my eyes. I've used them on my lip like I took when apple of my way with me when I was away last weekend just so easy. I love so pretty. It's so great because I'll just do my foundation and then yeah same. Brush go in pick up a little bit buffer in. And if you need to buff out each study collide easy yeah. It's so easy and like I just don't know a skin that it wouldn't be pretty on so yeah big love for me. I'm absolutely obsessed with them. Where play those stories? I think? Watch this space. What's yours well you so I think my more come as prize mine is the new deal the do forever conceal it. Looks like a mini bottle. Almost like it almost looks like a thin version of the foundation. Bottle comes in thirty shades has quite a big dover. I just love everyone I use it on. It looks good on everyone where the I would say for majority of skin types. It looks great I think what say magic about my own skin is it feels like you don't eat loads of how like an you know to give context. I don't wear a lot of consumer I kind of do like a few dots number in the real techniques brush so I'm not kind of adding layers and layers but it's also the kind of conceal you can use to cover readiness to put over top of spot you can use is even developed it so it's almost like if you wanted like a next level fat like another level of foundation you can actually use it like as the foundation so it gives you a lot of options. I'm lazy. I do love concealed. I can do everything with and A. Just something about it photographs beautifully. It looks good in real life. It's a very I just I've been converted. Lindsey up some are saying good things. About mega conceal person usually speaking. But Yeah I. I'm in love with this guy even over my foundation if I just feel like saying yeah look and it doesn't settle and it just blends out is it wasn't the yeah. 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On The Red Carpet Episode 1

Sci-Fi Talk: The First Season

23:55 min | 1 year ago

On The Red Carpet Episode 1

"Hi this is Jimmy Yati creative, all cool things including the sci-fi original series Painkiller Jane also with Partner Justin Gray working on countdown. These see Joan hacks. Tara. Knew uncle, salmon and freedom fighters, series and a whole bunch of things that are coming this way. I just want to tell you that I listened to sci-fi talk, and if you're not listening to sci Fi, you really need to get on the ball. Thank you, very. Very much welcome to episode one of on the red carpet, which feature some new and old conversations from my red carpet, and also purple carpet coverage, and I mean purple of its the sci-fi Channel and I have a great lineup today starting first with Adrian, Brodie. Who I talked to this April about the Bombay Sapphire film series at the Tribeca Film Festival that series allows aspiring filmmakers to showcase their storytelling, talents and films. Are Aging greater each. Of. What does this mean personally for you to be involved with something like? Well! It's it's. It's a great opportunity because I'm very grateful for You know. My Path and and you know. I'm here with my mom and she's a a big inspiration to me. As encouraged Mike Creativity and I'm very lucky to have found. Acting at a young age, because I think when we're young. Imagination. Flourishes Nasr we've become. Mature and. Responsible and kind of. Oppressed bid by society and the pressures of being an adult. We. We have less space for that. And what I love about this. That, it's it's. It's a chance of what I was. Saying earlier is even if you do not. Even submit. A proposal, but if you go online, and you look at it and you start spending a little bit of time thinking creatively. That's already beneficial. It's already. Meaningful. And you know. I. Think the more. The more that we have. That kind of. Thing where people are encouraged to be creative and Paint, or whatever it is that they want to do. submits a better world. Absolutely speaking creative I thought the role. The you did in in the car where you would just by yourself in a car wreck. That was amazing. That was difficult to. Five people that probably saw that song. I'm glad you saw it. Yeah and that's something where imagination comes to play. A lot of the screenplay is is silent. Sit Stage Direction it's. For trying a man who doesn't know where he is imagined, he'd somewhere someone he is in. Its? That's what attracted me to that. Thank you. And thank you for taking chances like thanks. Great antic. That was Adrian, Brodie and I hope to cover more of this great series from Bombay Sapphire and many more years to come. There's a cool new video game called beyond two souls that'll be coming up with actors Willem Defoe and Ellen page who I spoke to on the red carpet. Great to me. You I would think like seemed where you're acting I, saw some stills acting with William. Are you like you concentrate on your fellow actors, but I guess you have to balance also the environment that you're working in when you're doing the motion capture. Sure you mean like what's the technically the said. Yeah, you do. I mean I think. David was really helpful with that because they would always have you know images in the layout of everything and you don't have. Tangible Real! Setzer for necessarily but. Amazing? It was amazing how they would put together in cardboard and wood to sort of give you your parameters of walls and doors, like, of course you have a general outline of that and then so mostly actually you kind of get to focus on the actor, and it seems like it would be limiting, but it's actually much more freeing because you're not playing one camera and you can. Fall Down, you can turn around and you. Can you know it's? It's like what I imagined being on. Stage disliked certain extent except you're covered Dodson. I tell you this. A world has certainly changed as far as acting. Video Games are becoming a different way of telling stories days, not just I mean. Since I was a kid, certainly have changed a lot. Absolutely are even since I was you know and I played. Say Genesis. Old NHL Games I'm. David doing is is doing and quantum. Dream is doing is really taking it to a whole new level and combining. The new technology and interactive gameplay with the cinematic scope of narrative, and I'm super interested in seeing how that continues to all And And just am so fascinated to find out about like the choices people make. That's what I'm really interested in is when people play online and. You can sort of see like. What way people go like that's what I find so interesting absolutely. Is Is there any chance we're GONNA? See You as Kitty Pryde again in the next. I'm shooting right now in Montreal singer Scott here this morning from making it. kind of a class reunion a little bit. Yeah, it's been so fun I mean everyone is awesome Bryan singer is so great, and so we've been having a really really good time. I think the movie is going to be. Just. I Made Wild. I hope you guys right to should have you know what I mean? Bring back some people who? It was a playstation event at the TRIBECA Film Festival and it was great to talk to her look for beyond two saw the motion capture software really takes his game to a new level, and then you bring the acting talent along with that, and that to me makes it a must have and at San Diego. Comic Con in Twenty Eleven I spoke to Max Brooks, author of the Zombie Survival Guide and World War Z.. Z. We spoke at an event for the deadliest warrior TV series, and about their episode. Vampires vs zombies Steve Niles made a really good case vampires, but we I mean you're the guy zombies what I mean. He said they're dumb I. mean you know come to their defense? They are dumped. Just like Ebola is dumb. Just like AIDS is dumb, just like the Spanish influenza, and the Black Daf and swine flu all dumb. How'd that work out? I think honestly victory or defeat depends on the vampires I think if they organize if they set aside their differences, and if they're proactive if they go like any disease, the trick taking out any disease is going after the source wick wittily as fast as you possibly can with all the resources at your disposal, so the vampires do that. There's no competition the win if they donald if they delay if they degenerate into hyper partisan bickering. and. Then, I think we're in trouble because I think what you have to remember is vampires. Physical assets their strength their speed, but when it comes to their hearts and their minds, they're still human beings. They're no wiser there. No braver. They're no smarter Risen above any of the sort of social emotional weaknesses that make us human, so those weaknesses get in the way. It didn't matter how fast and strong they are. Now. Where do you land on undesired news as far as their speed, are they slow moving or are they quick? You know I think it depends on how it's presented. I think that say the fast zombies in the remake of the dead. Unbelievable terrify and the fast. They weren't really zombies, but in the twenty eight days weeks months millennial later. Again, they're not zombies, but that was terrifying. I think how presented the Michael Jackson Thriller Video. Not so scaring! Sar so you think it's more of a kind of with zombies. Be More of a numbers advantage. Then it would a. Physical. The funny thing is with all Zombie movies. It's not about their advantages. It's about the human disadvantages. How many movies have we seen where you're just yelling at the screen? Saying come on, you know how to beat them. You can do it and they won't do it. And I think that what excites me about zombies and Zombie stories is. They expose our weakness I mean and look at the problems. We're facing today. There's nothing out there. We can't handle this you. There's not an asteroid coming. There's no alien invasion. It's all problems that are solvable. Why are we solving? So I think that's really what it comes down to is not this obvious advantages its disadvantages. Another thing about the like the world's were designed visa taken over. It's interesting. How especially like series like walking dead? How? Is portrayed trying to survive the Zombie apocalypse and things like that. I mean that's the thing is all other. Zombie stories that I've encountered A. Small bands of people trying to survive it. I mean it's almost like a bunch of Katrina. Survivors trying to get out of the city or surviving on a rooftop what I try to do in World War Z., or if you're Canadian will resent. was tried to present an actual war with with an intact government, trying to reorganize itself and trying to reorganize its army, trying to feed its army, and tried to feed its refugees, and trying to keep law and order I. Mean There's it's so complicated, but these are the kind of issues that I'm interested in. What do you have coming up for you? I have a graphic novel coming out in a few months, about the first World War and it's a true story. I've been working on it for about thirteen years off and on in different formats. So, there's that there's also ironically right before I. Did this episode I had written a Zombie vs vampire? Short story called the extinction parade, and it was on daily beast for a little while and I think. It's going to be a comic book. Limited Comic Book Series So. We're working on that right now. Retail slow. Let's go with the World War Z movie. I know you said you, don't have. A lot of information, but yeah, they're going fear. Apparently, they know more than. I can tell you that I'm not really involved because it's. It's not my moving. I wrote the book that it's based on. And I haven't read the script at this point. There is no point because it's in production. There's no point in reading a script of a movie that's in production because it's going to go through so many changes what I would read on the pages, not what I'm going to see on the screen. I invited me you know God, bless them and I'd love to see it and I'd love to see what they're doing but I. don't WanNa. Get too involved because I'm a Zombie writer, but almost was Ambi- fan. So I want to be excited. I want to go to the premier and I want to see a movie that's edited with Special Effects Bells and whistles and sort of get the kind of throw. It got as a kid watching Giora movies. It is a misconception that when somebody buys a book and. A movie that the writers brought on the authors brought on and all. That just doesn't happen these days. No, no also misconception that somehow the writer is deeply offended. All the time. They killed my baby and the no, there's as far as I know maybe I'm wrong. There's nothing in paramount's contract with me. That says they can rewrite my book. My Book is my book. It's done so and I've said to them. You know I want you. You to make the Best Zombie movie you can make, and if that means straying from the book and certain places go for it, but make a great Zombie movie and given the team that they have I. Think they're to an amazing start and the book is not GonNa vaporize automatically on the bookshelves, either it's still going to be there. My book is still going to be there, so so I think there was a movie blazing saddles ones. Where the Sheriff says, my work here is done. Work here done. It's up to them now. Turn back to the. The for. Here Warrior Vampires zombies. You have any favorite of the tests that you guys were doing during the during the filming. Yeah, I, think I think the rain of undamaged. Call it that that's. Sad all the zombies were surrounding this one guy. And I. Don't know if they left it in, but I thought was really critical. Was He was whipping? Some ask when. He got scared. He admitted kind of creeped them out to see this ring closing on them which brings up a really good point is vampires can fear. zombies can't vampires can doubt zombies can't. Vampires can panic? They can tire There's all these foibles that they have. Asami is walking virus. So I thought the ring of dafter undoubtedly really sort of distill what we're trying to do here. Her. Be In in this episode. What we did, was we. We struck a where we serve nullified each other's viruses. There was a lot of these things we had to do. Now was the kind of thing where. We really left. Unturned League we debated. Every possible scenario. Like teen vampire say well we just make vampires, and then we would come back and say yeah, but they would they be new. Vampires wouldn't even know about their powers. They'd be like they'd be like National Guard. Versus the militia I shouldn't even say national. Guard should say these will be like old draftees. At least the Garter Professions. It was that sort of thing we talked about. Would Vampires argue with each other with their older vampires vs younger with their European Vampires vs American we talked about zombies as far as strength would fresher zombies be stronger as opposed to onset have been more rotted, and they reproduce with her and. Here's. The the real, the real kicker that we through in two teams Ambi- through. It was saying look. You're thinking Vampires zombies. It's not. It's vampires trying to save their human food source from the Zombie Plague. With daybreak twist, we'll right no, which was a great movie, but the ideas. Essentially it's a Sabertooth cat. Versus he boom and the Sabertooth cat is trying to save the herd of Buffalo before the virus rips through that heard. Because what are they going to feed on? So the clock is ticking from Vampires. You know they can't just withdrawn to their vampire, fort Thank you very much. I'll tell you. Here's a chip off the old block. This is the son of Mel Brooks and Bancroft two very good actors and two very funny people. It was great to have been at my i. San Diego Comic Con. In two, thousand ten, and to get a chance to speak to Eureka Star, Colin, Ferguson about the time travel and alternate timeline for that season of your Rica I am loving. Time Travel and the whole time stupid that it works, isn't it? Yeah, you shouldn't work you sort of like you. Put It on paper and you're like. Donald and it actually works. It's weird I. Don't know what to seeing you and you'll nineteen forties of military. That, was really fun, although in our twelve that will. Tell you right on the caller line. Tugging tight fun. New Respect for soldiers in a whole like weird ways and trench foot where those votes sixteen hours a day. There was one wonderful scenes in the last episode I saw here I didn't see it although it's back on Dvr at home, course test is when you're all sitting in the cafe dean. And you realize we ain't get back this. Is it and the four of us? You know all had like a bond together I. thought that was a really poignant moment for dish. Oh Yeah, we felt it to. We started I mean it's tough. You know you read some stuff and. You. Think is GONNA. Play while you read other stuff and you hate it and plays great. That was one of the ones where we read it, and you're like Oh this right, and then we didn't. It was like okay. That's that's that's sort of the season. That moment sorta gaps lights what we're doing this season? And then you add in James, callous and boy that just mix. Oh. He's. Such a nice guy like he's just a ridiculous human being so he's been a joy to have around, so he's doing an American accent from the nineteen forties before moving into present day and slowly evolving out of it. That's cool. Yeah, it's ridiculous. So what was your reaction when you found out about the the time the time things but time travel I didn't think they were gonNA bite. I've got the network was just going to stonewall it and say that's cute, but no. You know that's stupid. You know about and they didn't. They went the other way apparently, really excited and. Show their excitement. It's showed US data faith in us that we. Didn't know So that felt really good. And then we sort of ran with the ball and every time we did something like that, so it sort of it was a season where everything's all of a sudden started to click in. Everyone was thinking the same way as really cool. I can't wait to see how it turns out. It's not that have some fun tonight there you go back to work. sixteen tomorrow morning Oh, wow! No rest for the weary exactly three to meet again. Thanks thank you. I'll tell you. This guy is one of the nicest guys you ever WanNa talk to he is not pretentious. He is so easy to talk to. Really had a lot of fun meeting in Lego. Batman the movie. Clancy Brown voiced a kinder and maybe funnier lex Luther we spoke on the red carpet at the new. York Paley Center for this. I mean you played lex? Of course for many years now, actually probably the longest actor at played lex voice, wise but How does that happen? That's not a bad thing I know. How do we get so old? Then have done something for so long I don't get it and do it so well, but for this one you get a chance to light him up a little bit and must have been fun. It was fun. It was It was fun to read the script I I. I'm I was always familiar with their work. Because I've played the my son is ten and he. Has the LEGOS and they did the star. Wars Lego adaptations for the Games and I was totally into that. I thought it was kind of amazing. The you could create a game that a kid could love. Then his dad could love as well and they. They were very clever with how they would comment on the game, but. The universe and this was kind of interesting because this game to me as a as a full on script beforehand, it wasn't the game. It was a script so I. Thought well. That's I could do lex in this I would love to do Lexus and see. If we can turn LEX into a lego character, and it was very clever very fun script was not you know he was still the same do? You know. The joke was still the same dude. It was just. It was just a blast to read so I was. I was very happy to go on and do it and to be. Part of their work. You know finally you can do comedy, but in a way you can do it straight like you did. starship troopers I. Mean Your Drill Sergeant was just. Right there, but it was his. My wife and I were watching the other day. We're. Were crying laughing song. There you go? That's a good script. You know that's that's. That's a good script. Makes it easy? You don't work for the lab I. DON'T HAVE TO BE BILLY CRYSTAL guys. Well another thing that I think fans love you for. Is Your work on Earth, too? I just think you. You play great villains, but that guy. Yeah, but that guy was. I was great. You're going way back. Yeah, John Dan's. Interesting one. That was a little dated. Now I. Don't know if you've seen it, but. It's it's running now mobile devices. That's the way the world either I. I like to say that we were. We were the pre lost Series that we sort of. We sort of made loss possible. We were doing lost four lost with school. That's exactly it. Yeah, you were ahead of its time there. What's it like when you guys all? Get back together, you know Kevin. And all the guys from the original series and do. Like kind of getting the band back together kind of. A little bit I. You know I I Adore Kevin. I've I've always admired him. And love him doing that. It's Tim does not come and do it Tim Tim did it and they need then he's fell out of it and he's so busy that it's a real cool when he had him but I love Travis's Superman. Superman can change. It's like it's like the the The Camera Batmans they all change and the on cameras chances. The voice over Superman tend to change I love with Travis. Does and and I think I think Choi does does a very good Kevin Imitation? Another thing I have to mention is kind of all I think that was just what a great part for you! What a fascinating character deployed another! Brother just was very interesting. Very Weird. Bet I'LL BET HBO wish. They had that show right now. Yeah. They let go too soon. What do you coming up? there's film eventually John John Dies at the end is out right now. there's a film called Uh Hell benders that were waiting for the contracts to get signed with a J. T. J. D. Betty directed that wrote and directed. Clifton Collins and me and punch other fun guys. I did a film with Jason Stadium. Recently I did a film with That's the guitar player slash produced. So they. You know their stuff coming up their stuff around. Between the voice over and the on camera, you're busy yeah. Yeah Trey Statement I got kids I got. I kids a mortgage. Yeah I hear Ya get I'll get a million dollars picture. I gotta get. Keep a common. Yeah. I hear Ya. What a great honor to reach a man regression! That'll be available in late. Nate Lego, Batman, the movie. It's great for kids of all ages. And also from San Diego Comic Con and Twenty Ten is my conversation on the purple carpet of the sci-fi Channel With David Blue of then too short lived series stargate universe now I just talked to Robert Cooper. Who was the show runner at the time? And he had this cool back to the future t shirt so I kind of came up in my conversation with David David David just a SEC. What did you think of you know? Robert, Cooper's wearing a back to teacher. Wasn't the second movie like one of the cool sequels over the second movie is my favorite course. That's what everyone likes so pissed. I don't have a hover board old once I. Think I think. I think we need to remake it with me. Gang I'd love to see that. Let me. All the SCIFI references your character has. Definitely must put in some of them. No actually that's the brilliance of these guys right here I would love to claim credit, but every time they had me a script. They've already run in the movie referencing all the although I did have a great time this season. I won't ruin it where I went up to Jomo lots. He's propaganda. Cut Out! I went up to Joe and I said I. Hope You don't mind. I have to pitch. This I really want WanNa make this one reference and he let me do it so I'm hoping it stays in the having. Are you gonNA have a chance to have some fun while you're? Here. Oh. I already have been meeting some great people like really. Doing some crazy crazy stuff on top of that meet some of my idols stand the. Truck Orient People like that absolute one goes under. Again Yourself, you certainly have earned it and then back to work, and I can't wait to go see it though. Yeah, all right, thanks. That's my first episode of on the Red Carpet. They'll be many more to come. There's a multilayered creature growing on your shoulder.

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Byte Matt Ryan JLA Dark Red Carpet

Sci-Fi Talk Byte

05:16 min | 4 months ago

Byte Matt Ryan JLA Dark Red Carpet

"Hi welcome to season two of bite. This is tony till auto parenting an apocalypse. It's it's not the same way that you you know how it works. Any views usually two to four minutes long but sometimes they can be a little longer. When you when you live long enough. All kinds of strange things happen very right in saying that the greek heroes the original superheroes in part because of the hopeful nature of genes vision but also because of its message of diversity and inclusion. I spoke to matt ryan on the red carpet for justice league dark at the directors guild batmans in. I'm all these other hero. Yeah you can never do on tv. Yeah it's it's quit. That's that was one of the most exciting fun things to do. You know. I don't actually really interact with them because you are in a booth on you're on your own but you know knowing what the script laws and get into play. Those things was a fun thing. And i've read about his relationship with satyanarayan swamping. You know all these people are men get into kind of just put what. I learned underneath The dialogue on everything was great. It was a great thing at another thing too is. This isn't the last constantine animated. I heard you're going to be doing more. That is correct. Yes so. I was away travelling. Recently i took. I took a little bit of trying to time to go to poly Easy place and Oh yeah it's great honest way and i got an email from david. Goya's say look we want to do this thing. What do you think and i just you know replied saying i'm in because i love the character and he hasn't gone away you know it's been two years since the tv show was on doing the the arrow this and now we're doing the the animated series on cwc so. I'm really excited to see where we what we can do with him. And why we're going to go so much material Some great source material so I look forward to working with with david. Goya again with the producer on the live action. Show and greg berlanti rummy side. Yeah it's great is his. They're going to be any kind of limitations on what he can do and say. I don't know man. I look at this point. I don't know. I'm just like exciting excited to see what we're gonna do with him. And there's so many different avenues so many different stories to tell. I'll be interested to see what we come up with. What we're gonna do with it so i guess you know the series was over. You've probably figured that was it right. I was like that's it. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go back to stage. You know tread the votes. And i did that and then You know what i'm doing this. Tv show in the uk at the moment. Which is called the halcion which is in one thousand nine hundred drama set in this five star. Luxurious hotel called the house here in london. And i play an american broadcast journalist. Who's based loosely. Edward r murrow and his name is joel horrible. There's no biographical he's very much his own person but he comes into the hotel and salts hearing there's some meetings going on behind closed doors and He tricked kicks of a bit of a fuss. And it's such a such a far cry from constantine and what i played on stage. That's what i love about. You know what i mean. It's a period piece and the clothes and the sets and everything. Yeah i mean the costume design. All the costumes were absolutely amazing. And i was. I was it actually. I couldn't keep any of the suits suits. Who great and all those big wide coats suits in the tribe's I think you should dress like that more often than they are. We going to see it here in the state I hope so. Yeah i believe so It's it's airing the sixth episode on monday in the uk. So we'll see. I think we're still waiting to see what it would be wrong him. And what kind of commitment to you. Have on the show I'm committed to do to to do another season. We'll see what happens with the character but you know Yes so. I'm looking to something to kind of work on in between it's always very difficult to find something that you wanna do that fits in between these things but You know hopefully the show will go for a second see series. It's got so much. Potential great cast and crew great writers and producers and Yeah i really hope he gets picked up again. So i can explore more of that That time an era of the Of joel hara. What about the big screen. Any thoughts about that Yeah i'd love to himself on the big screen. I think it's you know finding the right project and kind of Doing something to do a diverse things as possible. You know Going from being blonde chain smoking you know so willing to you know Paying joe hara. So you know it's all about the role you when my first love is always go back to the theater every of years. If i can say i just feel lucky. Blessed to be able to get to play the roles that i have and hopefully continues. Look for matt ryan voicing constantine once again in jail a dark apocalypse war for bite. This is tony tiller.

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FHM #39: Fashion at the Oscars, an Interview with Bronwyn Cosgrave

Dressed: The History of Fashion

41:47 min | 1 year ago

FHM #39: Fashion at the Oscars, an Interview with Bronwyn Cosgrave

"They say the seventh daughter can read minds. Conjure voices from the. I'll do all that. So you show from the creator of the control group comes new scripted podcast. The seventh daughter. Why in the seven have no right to put her in the seventh daughter. All ten episodes available now. Listen on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast. Just the history of fashion as a production of iheartradio with over seven billion people in the world. We all have one thing in common every day. We all get dressed. Welcome to address the history of fashion. Podcast where we explore the WHO? What of why we wear. We are fashion historians and your host Abra Kellyanne and Cassidy Zachary so on Tuesday. We debuted the first episode of season three of trust and it was part one of our two part series on the history of the relationship between fashion and film and seeing how the Academy Awards were just this past Sunday Apron. I thought it would be fun to learn a little bit more about the history of red carpet. Fashion at this star studded event but first April. We promised we would share a little bit more about our recent. I ever red carpet experience. I mean these events are no joke. I think you and I both know. I think that I made a reference to this in this week's earlier episode but yeah we were inherited makeup for like five hours. It was intense but we had a lovely time and our hair and makeup was done by a wonderful L. A. Base makeup and hair stylists Melissa. Betty so you guys need hair and makeup in L. A. Check her out but yeah how did you feel casts? I thought it was really fun. She did some quote Unquote contouring on me. Which I've always wanted to try out so I thought that was really fun. I also just had a blast leading up to the event and doing some vintage shopping for my outfit. I had a wonderful experience at off. Broadway here in New Mexico Albuquerque New Mexico. The owner kind of just spent a couple hours with me trying on all these different types of dresses from different eras until I really settled on what I ended up wearing. Which was this one thousand nine hundred seventies sparkly? It actually is a three piece suit but I took out the halter top. That had a Martini on it. I I didn't even see that it just was a little much but I just opted for a basic black bodice underneath. But what about you? How did you go about Picking Your Well Oscar Ensemble we. We both went vintage so I actually already had the dress in my closet that I wore. Which was this late sixties early seventies Maxi dress with POLKA DOT? Op Art Print. All over. It was very very cool but it needed a little bit a love. It had a little rip under the sleeve and it needed a news zipper in it. So I popped on over to my favorite Taylor here in Bushwick Brooklyn Natalie at the Taylor S. Who Does really really wonderful work and she specializes in vintage as well so again. If you're New York in Taylor Checkout Natalie end something I thought was really cool before we move on is April had false eyelashes on her lower. I had on bright yellow eye shadow and so many false lashes and my lashes are naturally a really long but but yeah it was. It was a lot it was great though and then as far as the experience itself goes I mean I thought it was pretty interesting. It was a little cold. We all waited in line to go in our sequence onto the red carpet. The highlight of the experience for me was being. You know just getting to walk the red carpet with April Callaghan in front of the photographers. That was our first experience. It was really fun and then at the end the award category was given out which we did not win but it was really exciting to get a meet. All the other women in our category. Yes absolutely it was so great to meet the lovely ladies fatness Cara Naked Beauty and forever thirty five so there you have it. That was our red carpet. Recap but we're here to talk about the Academy Awards wisher just this past. Sunday right casts. Yes now I get to talk about all things red carpet I mean. This is arguably the Oscars arguably the most highly anticipated of all red carpets throughout the year. So you know we're here to talk about the Academy Awards and the Academy. Awards is the annual event of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences which is an organization established by among others American Phil Magnet Louis. B. Mayer who was co founder of the Metro Goldwyn Mayer Studios and it was founded in nineteen twenty seven and the academy originally had about thirty six members and that included quote unquote. Hollywood royalty like Douglas Fairbanks and his wife at the time. Mary Pickford and the Academy was really focused on promoting the Hollywood film industry at a time when it was not yet. The nationally internationally celebrated epicenter film production that it is today so the Academy Awards. Ceremony was instrumental in helping establish. The Hollywood film industry's reputation by celebrating. Its achievements across five branches so giving awards to producers actors directors writers and technicians and the First Academy Awards was held in Nineteen Twenty nine and unlike today it was not a broadcast event but was rather a ticketed private dinner that was attended by two hundred and seventy invited guests and this was held at the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel in L. A. Dismay will mark ninety one years since the Academy Awards debuted on May Sixteenth. Nineteen twenty nine and things. Well you could say that they've changed just a tad today. The Academy's membership has blossomed from thirty six members to somewhere close to a thousand and from its original five branches. It now has seventeen. Over twenty million people across the US tune into the Oscars each year and has really become one of the most highly anticipated televised award shows of the season and millions of us tune in just for the pre show. I would argue and we do that because we WanNa see our beloved movie. Stars walk the red carpet and why can only be described as high style? I mean so. Central is celebrity dress to the Oscars that the pre show is televised live so that viewers like April and I am Oliver Address. Listeners can get up close views of their favorite celebrities attires before they even take their seats so talk show hosts interviews stars about what they wear while others give a play by play in studio and you know on various platforms across the Internet. I know I shared all of my favorites on instagram. And the revelry all things Oscars fashion does not end here of course in the days and weeks that follow as in every year a ceremony and special edition magazines will be printed that are dedicated to this red carpet fashion and of course the Internet will be aflame with talk of the best and worst dressed. Cast we've come a long way from that very first private dinner in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine and this has sparked our curiosity about just winded. The Oscars become as much about fashion as film and I started to research this topic and kind of dive right in but it was not long after. I began Researching that I came across. Bronwyn Cost Grace Fabulous book made for each other fashion the Academy Awards and of course I reached out to her and I am pleased to say she is joining us here. Today Bronwyn welcomed addressed Bronwyn. It is such a pleasure to have you here today. Welcome dressed thank you cassidy. I'm a huge fan of dressed. So it's lovely to be with you. Thank you so much and I have to say that we're here today. Because you wrote this fabulous book and I'm sure you've done a lot of interviews about red carpet fashion because of it your made for each other fashion and the Academy Awards. It's such an incredible book. You have this Great Inc. A primary source materials quotes newspaper clippings. And then there use these vivid descriptions to bring these nights and events to light and I just want to read a little bit from what you wrote about for the First Academy Awards which not aired because this is pre television but may thirtieth nineteen twenty nine for instance you write. A corruption erupted on the stretch of Hollywood Boulevard. Outside the Roosevelt Hotel just before eight PM at two hundred and seventy film industry. Silent screen notable slipped from a convoy of luxury automobiles and into its cavernous event. Space the blossom room. The Academy's prominent guests included Mary. Pickford NORMA SHEARER engine starlets Marion Davies and Joan Crawford. Lean and tanned. These actress lovely looked as delicious as their sugars. Spun Party Vapor a Waxed Candy Replica a Cedric Gibbons Golden Academy Award Trophy. So it's really these details that transport the reader back in time to that moment. So thank you. You must have had a wonderful time researching and writing. This book will thank you. I actually did not have a wonderful because I understand that because you know it's really it's really kind of you to notice the intricacy that actually went in to the writing of this book. The book took me three years and every single day of that was almost every single. Damn it was really one solid year of writing to the homestretch but for about two years. I scoured honestly. The world for information about what women wore the Oscars and my book really is about women and what they went through to get dressed and the great thing is that I did discover you. Know the bulk of that material in Los Angeles at the Margaret Herrick Library which is an academy library and a lot of it had never really been looked at and I'm also went to visit the great designers I went to the Dior Archive and John. Galliano actually called the archive and said you know. Help Bronwyn with what she what. She needs whatever she needs. Giorgio Armani also took it really seriously and help me. His team really helped me. I was very very fortunate. There's a great trust. One of my favorite dresses in the book is what we shall. Yo War when she was nominated for Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon and that dress was created from millions of Swarovski Crystal in Hong Kong by a very gifted designer named Barney. Chang and I what I actually noticed in the process of researching this book and why it took so long was that I kind of discovered a paper trail of identifying dresses and actually looking at the designer a designer attached to address in a caption say and looking at that dress in thinking that does not look like the work of say Howard greer who was one of the early costume designers and not all of the names turned up in in indexes for example addresses. So I really had to look hard and not believe what I saw imprint and that is something that I really noticed with fashion. History is that there will be a sort of myth associated with something. Say A design. Then it's not always the case and you really need to read between the lines and and go back to the primary source material and then to contextualized that all you know and put it in right into this story. This really captivating story. Yeah it's not an easy feat but you did it beautifully. Thank you but oh the one thing I will say about. That is that the book does also revolve around a celebration every year. So that really anchored the book the actual ceremony. Where you know. That was Super Fun. I watched every Oscar ceremony. That had been telecast. That was the first thing that I did so every Oscar ceremony that had been televised. Say I think it was like Nineteen Fifty. Four certainly the mid fifties onwards and really got to work with that material. Which was the fun stuff? Actually guys it's bobby bones. I host the bobby bones show and I'm pretty much always sleepy because wake up at three o'clock in the morning a couple of hours later I get all my friends together so we get into a room and we do a radio show. We share our allies. We tell our stories. We try to find as much good in the world possibly can and we looked through the news of the day that you'll care about also your favorite country. Artists are always stopping by to hang out and share their lives and music too so wake up with a bunch of my friends. I Ninety eight point seven. W M Z Q in Washington DC or wherever the rotates you on the iheartradio APP. You mentioned a little bit earlier. But you're kind of starts with you. Pick an actress pair of actresses that are nominated for an academy award and he kind of lead up to the event in your book telling you know contextualising within the films that they produced and the experiences they had and then how. They found their dress. Which of course for fascists during like myself is just all of those details was just so wonderful you mentioned Howard greer little bit. So we're talking about the nineteen twenties and thirties that golden age of Hollywood. And that's really when the Academy Awards came into its own and this is a time when we have these all powerful studios reigning supreme over every element of the film making process you know they controlled production distribution and their stars images and personas and the studios had these huge in-house costume departments led by this Bevy of legendary costume. Designers including edith head and these designers are tasked with producing not only the stars. Onscreen looks for you. Know potentially dozens of films a year but also their academy award gowns. Which is something. We do not really see today. So can you talk about the costume? Designers role in creating counts for the Oscars during this period and maybe highlight one or two of your favorite examples. Will it really started in the nineteen thirties with designers? Like Travis Banton and Gilbert Adrian so Travis Pantheon was the in house costume designer at paramount. Pictures and Gilbert Adrian was the costume designer and chief at MGM and really what those designers were charged with by the studio bosses was creating a look for the women who represented the studios say Norma Shearer at MGM and say Carole Lombard at paramount. And really that look that they ultimately would wear on the red carpet going to the Oscars was not really what the actress wanted to. Where of course she had to feel comfortable in it and it had to fit her body but it that dress also had to represent somehow the glamour of the studio. And you can really see that with Norma Shearer in the early pictures of her. There's almost this glow around her. Travis Banton also worked you know a lot with shimmering crystals and beads and they both really cut their designs to revoke the silhouettes of the Paris could tour. They all looked to Paris. And there was a great rivalry actually Between powers an Hollywood. Because you would have women going say. On their summer vacations to Paris and bringing back dresses that they would want to say where to a premier the Oscars and they would be obliged to wear a dress conceived by studio designer You fast forward to the nineteen fifties and edith head. Who Was Travis? Banton assistant really took Oscar dressing to the next level and kind of made it her kind of mission to dress as many women as she could eat head was famously nominated and won several Oscars over the course of her career very long career that went from. I would say probably late twenties to to the nineteen. Maybe nineteen seventy. She won an academy award for Costuming The film the sting but she dressed women like Janet. Leigh and Famously Grace Kelly. When she wants to the country girl in Nineteen fifty-three and and Grace Kelly actually re war so recycled address. The dress that she wore it was a blue satin dress. She had worn it to the premiere of Country Girl. I think it was the new. York premiere but edith had was up to the last minute until Grace Kelly got into her limo. Was fussing over the tape that she wore. She wore like a wrapped style little Cape around her shoulders and had her shoes sort of custom dyed to match the shade of blue of her dress and really worked in that way like contemporary stylists work so going to every length that you know the stars looked perfect from every possible camera angle. I would say you know my my favorites are you know the the Edith headdress. That Grace Kelly did wear and also later on in the late fifties and early sixties It was probably late fifties. Helen rose a great costume designer at MGM. Dressed Elizabeth Taylor to to go to the Oscars. But you can go all the way up to the seventies in Bob. Macky the great great costume designer. Who worked on the Carol Burnett Show and Sonny and Cher who had worked at the studios and assisting great designers like John Lewis? I think he'd probably done some work with edith had he came up against her anyway was still carrying on that tradition. And if you look at say the outrageous costume that share war That the Mohawk Indian inspired costume that she wore when she was presenting the best supporting actor. Trophy that really was a costume crafted in the old Hollywood way every single aspect I think except the rap that she wore and her boots was custom made. Oh Wow and if our listeners haven't seen it they just need to Google Nineteen eighty-six Shared Oscars. Ah because you really have to see it. We're not really doing it justice but there was an incredible amount of precision. That actually went into that. You know there's this great story that the production designer of the Oscars I think sometimes people forget how reduced the ceremony is you know. Every little aspect of that ceremony is produced and production designer that year. Who had done the stage set told me that when share went for the rehearsal of presenting the trophy that she was conscious to measure. You know how tall the arch that she was walking through was so that her headdress would fit through it she was like seven feet tall with heels. Right yes she's. She was wearing some high heels at night but as she told me she actually could walk in her. Heels share actually advised never to wear new shoes to the Oscars. Because your feet will kill you and I of followed her rule actually and it works and today red carpet. Fashion is in my opinion. But I think I'm onto something here. It's really synonymous with the Academy Awards. I mean I would argue that. Many people just tune in to the pre shows to see what the you know what these actors and actresses and actors are now for many many years have been making really wonderful statements themselves on the red carpet which has kind of transformed that pre show as well but I think people tune in just to see what their favorite celebrities are wearing. Can you talk a little bit about when this shift happened? I mean you just talked about actors. Having contracts with design houses Joan rivers pre carpet. Show might have had something to do with it. But when did it become this huge televised event just to see the red carpet? The pre shows have existed since the Oscars were televised. The arrivals was were always felt some Hollywood. You know you would get a glimpse of who was arriving. Be that Audrey Hepburn Julie Andrews Lauren Bacall and as a young girl I grew up in the seventies watching that. And that's actually what made me completely fascinated by about the Oscars it wasn't speeches. Was actually those short little moments and I think because it was so short it left me wanting more but then you you fast forward to the nineties and as you say it really was Joan rivers. She was a great comedian. She was known for hosting the tonight show instead of Johnny Carson. He couldn't do it. She often sat in for Johnny Carson. And she really started this this very acerbic pre show but it scared the wits actually out of a lot of women like that would famously. Avoid her like Nicole Kidman and Penelope Cruz. Because she really you know just went for it and which is say what there was no filter they say but then you know basically e I think I think e entertainment acquired Joan rivers show. You'd have to do the math on that but from there kind of just exploded and I actually think it's too much You know it. By the time that that people sit through the pre shows for say what are they like three hours. You know they they. They have kind of lost their Appreciation for any of the production values and they seen the dress. I mean it used to be that you would watch like say a snippet of what a an actress was wearing when they were arriving. And then you would get to see the entire dress as they were making their processions either on stage or up the stairs to accept their statuette. That was the traditional way. Now you get to see it from every angle on all the various television networks that have them but you know that's Progress I would say yeah and then you know it's interesting to as that you also. I think it was in. The nineties are nearing the end of the nineties. You write about how you know. I guess Nicole Kidman and her relationship with your kind of laid the groundwork for what we have today in in these brand partnerships is it. Rooney. Mara who has a relationship was chanel or I think she's whipped. She Vaughan she she. You're right them. South these actresses and actors who are connected to a brand through advertising But also our than wearing gowns on the red carpet. Yep that Dior. For example has had a long standing relationship with Hollywood particularly the Oscars. They've been crafting dresses for the red carpet. Since Marlene Dietrich went to the Oscars late forties early fifties in a black dior that Christian Dior actually masterminded with her And since then Elizabeth Taylor went to the Oscars nine hundred sixty one. Butterfield's eight wearing a mark. Bowen for Dior Mark Bohen actually crafted a lot of dresses all through his career for the Oscars when when brands like Chanel. And Valentino. Weren't really are looking at it. I mean she she to always had a sort of presence because of Audrey Hepburn but you know it really became corporate sized in the nineties. I would say you know Giorgio Armani famously went into Hollywood in the late eighties with a woman named wanted mcdaniel and she started scouting for men and women to wear towards hormones evening. Wear and the red carpet really was targeted as a launchpad for Mr Armani's evening wearing it really wet from there. I think you know the the great agencies. Cia William Morris you know looked at these collaborations and thought okay. There's money to be made in these dresses and really today these dresses and Tuxedos and whatever else they're wearing really are almost like a veil behind which are a lot of corporate machinations. Endorsement DEALS APPEARANCES COMMERCIALS FRONT ROW OBLIGATIONS. And what what actors really reach from them from these relationships and contracts are alternate salaries that allow them to pick and choose their film and stage roles in a more discerning way so they make a lot of money. Those huge Louis Vitton contracts for example Emma Stone Michelle Williams. You know today and they've taken somewhat of the individuality out of it but then you say get a great stylist like was stuart or Elizabeth Saltzman. Who can really do something? Special with a star. Who's under contract and maybe dress her kind of more imaginatively and a young designer for a ceremony. Where not as many people are watching. Say you know the sags or Globes You seek your nightly for example wearing urge them. Lucy Boynton does the same thing. Lesser-known designers that don't have money to give a star paycheck. So you have that going on but I would really say that this kind of sterilization or corporatization and kind of way. Far fewer stunts on the red carpet like share and Safe York. The reaction to that is is men wearing these phenomenal outfits. Say Billy Porter in that Christian Syria. No Tuxedo draftsman mean. That was a cultural moment. Was incredible and Chadwick. Rosement went in a very ornate. She Vaughan she beaded jacket. And you know great taking great risks and all the great color that's on men You know jared leto 's Gucci flamboyance right God for that. Hi Everyone I'm Brooke Burke. I'm making admits and I'm sex and intimacy coach Leila Deville and we have a podcast called intimate knowledge. That's what this show is about sex sex but it's so much more than that. It's about the ups and downs every patient ship. Your sex life is about overcoming heartbreak and infidelity. It's about understanding intimacy. And what makes you happy? And it's about everything he wanted to know. But you might be too embarrassed to ask. We're giving you intimate. Knowledge listened to intimate knowledge on iheartradio APP on Apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts find us so what is the future of red carpet fashion? Where would you like to see it go? I guess I should say well. I think the future of Red Carpet. Fashion really is to be determined by the future. The red carpet is always say a barometer a bellwether for what is going on in society and you see this kind of you know this gender bending Look on the red carpet of say billy porter and that really is reaction to what you see on. Tv pose is celebrating the Trans Community. You know. There's there's an aspect of his character. They're not just who billy porter is but who leaves portraying on screen but also what's going on. I mean there's a lot of protest in the air so you will see that coming out. It could be a pin. It could be you know a headpiece. It could be a color. I mean they're always coded messages on the red carpet as well Bronwyn. Thank you so much for being here but before we go. I mean you've you've mentioned talking to share you've mentioned you've been to the Oscars. Can you tell our listeners? A little bit more about yourself. What you do where listeners can find you in your work. You also have a fabulous. Podcast called a different tweed that I am a huge fan of tells a little bit more about yourself. Thank you well. I am a fashion historian. Really my formative. Professional experience was at British Vogue. I was the features editor. There I worked on the magazine for five years under the Great Alexandra Shulman And really from British folk. I went on to write books. I produce fashion documentaries. I produced the feature length. Fashion documentary about Minoa Blahnik and Kevin O. Qua- I moved to New York Seven years ago to live with my partner whose name is John's loss and he is a film producer. He was one of the producers of Green Book which won the Oscar Last year for Best Picture and I've been fortunate enough to go to the Oscars with John for many years now and it really is such a privilege and it's just taking me beyond the kind of realm of book writing. Where yes I have done the research but you really don't understand the emotion and the kind of gravity the seriousness of of the event. And really what it means to these people who struggle and work really to to achieve you know the moment of a nomination to be welcomed into this community of artists and designers and filmmakers and you know it really is a moment I it is something that money cannot buy from the comedy to the music to just the spontaneity of it all and of course the fashion which is one of Z great aspects. But it's not the only great aspect of the Academy Awards today from On that note. Thank you so much. This was truly a pleasure. My pleasure cassidy. Thank you fron. Thank you for being with us today. You know all of this red carpet cast. I am dying to hear what you thought about. Some of this year's festivities and what people were wearing while the Oscars itself was pretty fun. I have to say I am really liking them not having a host necessarily I think it helps it move along a little bit quicker and leads to some exciting moments. I have to say in regards to fashion. Of course some of my favorite moments where the sustainable fashion moments on the red carpet Joaquin Phoenix. He won best actor for his role in the joker which I have not seen yet. I'm not sure I will because I know it's supposed to be really good but I hear it's a little violent. But he's been winning all of the awards all season and he made this pledge to wear the same suit or Tuxedo. I should say every single event. So He's been wearing his style at McCartney's suit to all the award season. So he's he really set the bar high for sustainability and high fashion and had an incredibly powerful speech. I also would like to say about you know just taking care of each other and taking care of the Earth you also people like Penelope Cruz and Margot Robbie heading to the Schnell. Archives Elizabeth banks and Jane Fonda both reward dresses from past award ceremonies fun even brought the last item. She ever bought which this red coat onto the stage with her. That's amazing what about you? I'm we'll on that sustainability tip. I will just note that there are more than a few actresses that were wearing dresses that are made of ten cell. Which is it Clo- fiber that's created from as a cellulose fiber that's created from wood pulp and when they make pencil. It's really cool. Because they have to break the wood pulp down but all those chemicals and processes that result from that they actually are able to reclaim it and reuse it. So it doesn't go back into the environment is a closed loop system so check out ten sell on the Internet if you WANNA learn a little bit more about it but there are more than a few actresses wearing ten cell on the red carpet. I have to save for one of my top picks. GotTa go with my girl Janelle Monet. Oh My Gosh. That was my number one to you notice. She's my hometown girl. So of course if you haven't seen this dress. She was basically serving up some medieval chic as I like to call it. She had on a silver Tulle. Silk Mesh Dress. That had this kind of a cow or hood which to me was kind of a reference to like the Middle Ages and perhaps the chain mail that nights were but also I got a little bit of Grace Jones. Five from it right. Yeah and it had a really amazing cut out in the back but the thing that really sent the stress over the top is that it was covered in a hundred and sixty eight thousand crystals which is by hand. Yeah it took six hundred hours reduce the stress. Apparently four people had from Ralph Lauren. Who WAS THE DESIGN? House that created it for her. Four people had to carry the dress to her and put it on because it was quite heavy as one can imagine. Yeah hands down. I think that was the the most beautiful dress on the red carpet. It was absolutely exceptional. And then of course she gave that powerful performance to open the Oscars in kind of her signal. What has now become her signature. Tuxedo look so she. Where like this? Ralph Lauren Tuxedo to open Oscars but I agree with what Bronwyn said earlier. Of course there's such a wonderful place for sustainability on the red carpet for making that powerful statement. There's also something to be said for the red carpet to be the stage for fashion as art and the incredible hand craftsmanship as April. Just mention that goes into creating these one of a kind custom pieces for all of us to appreciate and truly love. I do have to say a couple more. My favorites was about rebel. Wilson and Jason Wu. Is My runner. Up to Genucel Monet. She was the embodiment of Hollywood glamour. She where that figure hugging goal. Jason Wu gown. I thought she looked absolutely stunning. And then my other favorite was Sandy Powell costume does. She was on my list to. Yeah Oscar winner for best. She won Oscar. I think last year for best costumes for the favorite. But she wear the suit by an Fraser Wallis. And she's been having celebrity. Sign it all award season for charity. She's going to auction it off. So that was super cool. Yeah and the 'cause they're auctioning office quite interesting. They're trying to save a cottage that belonged to Sandy's mentor who passed away in the nineties. And they want to preserve the cottage and turn it into an artist's residency and incubator which is very cool so my other stunner and she's a double stunner for me. Basically was Cynthia Areso et. Who walked the red carpet and that? White Italian for Sasha address. It was incredible and her like a glove. It had this white boost. Da Type bodice with an asymmetrical shoulder. Strap let that ran across her chest. And then the rest of the bodice kind of had these diagonal insets of like mash and also sequin and the whole effect kind of conveyed movement and then all of that spilled out onto this giant voluminous skirt that pulled out on the floor and it had a fi. Haislett all the way up to their. She looked amazing and another really fun. Note her nails that she had done They had a star theme. And it was yeah. They had stars all over him and it was a specific reference to the movie. What she was double nominated for Harriet because apparently when Harriet Tubman was leading more than seventy people to freedom she used often uses a north star as her guiding point so I thought that was like a really lovely touch that maybe not everybody would notice right away so absolutely I had no idea I really love that I think Lonzo at the grammys had some amazing nail art going onto. I really love that. That's becoming kind of this site for artistic experimentation and expression and also some hidden messages in their sperry nails as the new accessory right. Okay I have one more that I want to talk about because it definitely has a fashion history reference and that was Sandra. Oh's dress which was by Elie Saab and I know that our fellow fashion historian k stressed and made a recent comparison to a nineteen thirties. The letty Lynton dress on instagram yesterday. But I want to take that back even a little bit further to eighteen nineties. Because that's silhouette was so eighteen nineties to me. The really big blue font tool sleeves like went all the way down to the elbow and the whole dress was this peachy champagne color was really beautiful and I happened to notice that a couple of weeks ago. I posted an image of a house of worst gown. That's in the collection of the Kyoto Costume Institute and it is very very very similar in silhouette so and that dates to eighteen ninety four. You can check out our instagram for that. So I mean those Yugoslavs. I'M NOT GONNA lie. Man They have made a comeback with a vengeance. They are not my favorite silhouette in history. Because you also see them in the eighteen thirties. There are a little bit lower on the shoulder but those sleeves make repeated appearances and often comes with that cinched in waist and that flared skirt. So it's so fascinating to me that they they've been around those last couple of seasons and I will actually say our guest today. Bronwyn I think she was at the Vanity Fair Party for Oscar night and she had one big G-go sleeve on her outfit so they're back the vengeance. You know you're passionate mystery. Zakho well I think that does it for us today. Dress listeners. Please tune in on Tuesday for part two of our two part episode on fashion and film until then. May you consider your favorite red carpet fashion moments? Next time you get dressed. 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425: Donna Cutting, Rolling Out the Red Carpet for Customers

Crack the Customer Code

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425: Donna Cutting, Rolling Out the Red Carpet for Customers

"Your hosts Genie Walters and Adam pork are two of the most recognized and respected names in customer experience, and they have dedicated themselves to helping you improve your customer experiences, and now it's time for Adam and Jeanie. Jeanie Years. Like a Moody Stan! Every time I get on this podcast with you by inclination is to roll out the red carpet to make you feel welcome and special because you are. Well then. We have some work to do on your execution. Trying to be nice and look where you. Can help it. I know I know you're you're you're pulling out the red carpet and you're pouring lighter fluid on. Fire No that's that's part of what we're talking about today. How do you roll out the red carpet for customers for guests for employs and our guest a lot to say about that and I just love the metaphor is that she has an stories, and it's such a conversation. It was it was just you know it felt like settling in and talking to a friend, and then getting all this value out of it exactly, and that's because Donna is a friend, and she's also and she she shares. A lot of really good tips about just sort of the lens of the right I mean the nice metaphor, the red carpet, but it's also a lens. It's a way of looking at customer service, Challenge and I think Donna shares in the interviews how to use that Lens. which was awesome. Right yes, so let me tell you a little bit about our friend Donna. Cutting Donna is the founder and CEO of red carpet learning worldwide a training firm that helps organizational leaders cultures of happy team members delivering excellent service. Her mission is red carpet treatment for everybody. She's the author of two books on the topic. Including the celebrity experience insider secrets to delivering red carpet customer service and the Amazon Bestseller, five hundred one ways to roll out the red carpet for your customers recently named along without him. One of the top thirty global customer service Gurus her training programs are being used throughout the United States and South Africa, she's currently sheltering in place in Asheville North Carolina and her husband Jam and their rescue dogs, Moxie and tonks, but hopes to be traveling the country full-time in a new RV by the year twenty, twenty, one looking for service stories worth celebrating Donna. We are rolling out the red carpet for you. Today were so excited you're here. Thanks for joining us on crack. The Customer Code Oh. It is my pleasure, so glad to be here. Donna I'm so happy to have you here I'm so glad you asked I am wearing for Saatchi and. Tiffany earrings and you know it's just really my work for this year. You're. Yes my red carpet. Look exactly you. Ready Adam I have no clue. Thank you so much. Thank you to all hands. You Oscar US your. So. Here's the thing Donna you talk about the red carpet. That's your book is about this red carpet metaphor right for customer service, and before we get into anything else. Tell us where the metaphor came from. Why did you choose that idea of a red carpet for Customer Service Book? The short answer, and then I have the story so I'll give them both into. All right. When you think of Hollywood you had a little fun with that atom, but it's really all about. Saying that these people be celebrities are so significant importance so special. They matter so much that we must literally roll out red carpets for them to walk on right, and so the idea behind what I call red carpet, customer, service or Red Carpet company culture is really all about saying you matter you the customer you the team member that you are significant. You matter and so so we were. We want to roll out the red carpet and give you that red carpet experience the story behind. It really starts. You know my background's in Theater I. Did talent shows my backyard? I've been giving my Oscar. Acceptance Speech since I came out of the. And and my grandmother, my French grandmother and grandfather minimum. Pepe went off to Rome Italy years ago when I was a little girl, and we were gathered at their house Mama had fourteen kids, so there were a lot of people gathered at their house to bring the back, and my mom was decorating. She was in charge of decorations, and she found this little remnant of a red carpet and laid it out. For them so that when my uncle brought them home from the airport, they would be welcomed home with a red carpet and I, just as a little girl I distinctly remember sitting on the steps so excited yes, about my grandparents coming home, but more about the fact that they were going to be treated like celebrities and. It's an image that stayed with me and I built my whole mission around. You know everyday ordinary people getting the red carpet treatment. More just want to say Donna. We like you. We really really like. I feel it I feel. Well and I. I love that story about your grandparents, but I love how you translated that into this idea that you matter because I think that is something that is so important in the world that we live in on any day, and for any person like we all need to feel valued that way and so I love that that's how you summarize that. and Go ahead. Oh, it's so true Jeanie, and really when I think about you know people associated with the red carpet customer service. Those are the books that I've written but for me. The mission is exactly that it's so much bigger. It's about in this world today how we treat each other. And how do we let each other know that we matter so if you can do? Do that as part of your service to customers in the culture that you build for your team, members You know I think that's that's half the battle right there. Yeah, for sure for sure and you know you have written so much about this that you've you have five hundred one ways to roll out the red carpet. We're GONNA. Ask you to name all of those. No. But when you think about those all those different techniques that you talk about what are three of your favorites, and what are some of the things that our listeners might be able to put into place in their organizations? So so this is like choosing your favorite children. and. I tell you they're all based in story. So if you read the book, it's really stories and examples of what people have don companies have done, and so I'm thinking about three of mine. The I say it's one of my favorites, because it's just so simple, and it shows how easy it is to make, someone feel like matter, and it's my own experience. Experience out one of the Hampton ends into blow Mississippi, and how my colleague and I were staying there for work we came in late one night, and we missed the cookies, and we kind of jokingly made a big deal out of how we miss the cookies and the very next night When we came back, they had actually saved cookies back for us and. Kept them warm, and it was just an every little thing I mean it was just the smiles, the eye, contact, the the genuine back, and forth between us in the front desk staff, and the the the staff that was You know at the breakfast and they had just done such a great job with the basics Nah me, that's really like if you can get that down if you could get the basics down, but every team member delivering for every gaster customer whatever you pay, show whatever you call them every single time. That's a red carpet experience so. That's. Another is there is a a restaurant in Newport beach. California called Mama Ds and they I. Think this is so important for today as well because they they transformed their weightings space, so they would have because of their food. They would have people outside lined up waiting to come in, and they just did this incredible job of like hiring extra people to bring out meatballs and bring out Brad. On Saturdays, they would have entertainers for the kids I. Mean You almost wanted to go there and wait in line because? I'm such an experience and I. Just think it's today like what an just the idea of. And how you take the experience that you create, and now we have to innovate it, so I was talking recently with of some orthopedic Executives, and they were talking about. You know they've got people waiting outside now, and they have to call in before they walk into the building, and it's not the experience they want to create, did my. And I told them the story of Mama Ds and I said well okay, so here's your reality now. How do you take that reality and roll out the red carpet? In some way, you know so so so is it whatever that is? Is it a food truck outside while they wait, you know. Having parking spaces, so they're not standing outside. Is it seat so they're not standing outside. You know whatever that is I think it's Mama D's For. Me was a lesson in innovation. Win came to the customer experience. Can I share a story? That's very similar to that because. Kogyo there's this classic breakfast diner place called Lou Mitchell's, it's been here forever and ever, and they always have a line especially on Sunday mornings 'cause they're right by one huge cathedrals and people go to church, and they cross the street, and then go to Mitchell's and they're known for when you're standing in line especially in the cold winters that we have here in Chicago, people will stand in that line. They walk out with baskets of warm donut holes, and they just walk up and down. The line and people will literally like I. Remember My Dad. Dad Making a decision as like for the Family Brunch one day, saying well Lou Mitchell's has those those donut holes, so we're going to go there because we're going to stand in line anywhere we go, but this actually is a different experience, so it's just another example of that kind of technique of thinking about. How can we make the waiting? Part of the expects it and you know G. you're big on You know the customer mapping in customer journey mapping. Am I right there. Yes, absolutely yeah I mean. This is a time where we're. Really taking the experience that you normally have, and now it's different. So how are you going? with every single touch point and say. How are we going to make this red carpet experience a red cry, love it. You're referring to the blogs that I've written recently. Your. Your check is in the mail Donna. And now I have a very. This is a very important question is probably the most important question. Get get in this view. Why? Oh, why on the day when I finally did not actually eat a lunch? Is Every podcast guests talking about food or Food y'all your donut holes in Dying here. Okay, so that's that quick aside, let me ask you this because you talked about innovation and innovating the experience in the map and the I know, go through our books have been out for a minute, so we think about the red carpet and everything that's happening right now. You know post, Cova and all that. What about the digital red carpet? Right because we're? We're already in the middle of digital. Transformation is just being accelerated at this point. So, what are your recommendations for rolling out that digital red carpet? A lot to say about this actually I'm so glad you asked also. One being really what we were just talking about was looking at every touch point looking at what you, you know what you used to do in person, and now you're doing it digitally. So how do you create the same experience and I'll tell you I'm doing that I'm sure we're all doing that. In our own companies, you know I'm looking at the training that so interactive, and so you know full of props and fun and you know and now I'm asking myself. How do we take that? Experience and create the same feelings the same experience, but from a digital format and it really is looking at. Every little, you know, what is it? We do so in our training we use. Props and clapper's so can I. Send a box of props ahead of time. You know so everybody's still has that. We can still have that experience I. Don't know the answers yet, but those are the questions I'm asking and and on that same. No, you might look I. Don't know if you know Jessie Cole from the Savannah Bananas. He's been a gas. Demand Your podcast at. Good Oh, he's amazing I. Just and they're doing that right now to. They're going okay. We might be streaming our baseball games now. So how do we create that Same Crazy Fund Savannah Bananas Experience but in a digital world, so so the first thing is what are the questions you know because I think it's really important that we asking the right questions, they're. The second is to me. It's about preparing your team members because. I want the same things that they wanna before. They want you to be responsive. They want your they whoever they are connecting with to have knowledge of the product. You know how to solve the problem whatever it is, and then also some level of empathy or report building in addition to getting the task done, and I think just really looking at from a digital standpoint now are you preparing your team? Members with a knowledge base that they can all access so that everybody is familiar with Perhaps even the frequently asked questions that people are coming up with the language of empathy understanding that everyone is going to have a different a different. Feeling of what it is, they believe what it is they want and you know so. You're coming up with new complaints in some in some ways, new challenges, new problems, and so really one of the things that. I think we see all the time is that you have these wonderful frontline team members who are being faced with questions and concerns that they may not know how to address. They may not know how to take care of theirselves. emotionally when people are upset, and then also how to use the language of empathy to then help you know guide this customer with whatever it is they need. I have so much I'm trying to be briefed. I've so much about this, but to me. The first step in delivering an exceptional digital customer experience is really looking at. How do we prepare our team to be able to do that? Yeah I. Hear You on that and I love that you brought up like these are the questions because one of the things I say is like customer experiences by asking those hard questions, because that's where we all have to start and I think right now. We're facing questions that we didn't even know. We would ever have to ask so it's so interesting that we all have to start there and I think. Think you know you're talking about taking care of your team. I now you know we're in a really crazy time and so employee morale. That's not going to be the same as it was six months ago, and it might change week to week right now and I know you've been talking a lot about this. So what can leaders right now do to really help their teams to bolster morale during this time? Yeah there's such a good point, and I've been talking a lot about it because it's what my customers have been asking me bound know. How do we keep morale up just in general as people I don't know about the two of you, but I've been up and down up and down. Through this green, yes. But so really. Boils down to a few things that I use it I love acronyms. I use the care acronym number one is communication, and if you, if there's ever been a time to really step up and improve the communication between leadership and frontline team members, it is now and that's informational and looking at what are all of the different methods to make sure that you're getting the consistent message out. You know things are changing every day, so we WanNa make sure that you are keeping your team members. Members up to date in a way that they are going to receive that message, and then inspirational communication. How are you keeping? Them fired up How are you sharing stories of wonderful things that they are doing to keep them inspired and then interpersonal, just giving people a little bit of grace in your communication, because we're all going through this together and I don't think anyone's going to show up at one hundred percent every single day, at this point so communication number one appreciation. And again so I mean these are. It's not rocket science, but there's a difference between knowing this and showing it you know actually practicing on a consistent basis, and so really stepping up the thank you notes the thank. You calls the noticing what people do and letting them know how much they matter. not just on a group basis, but also on an individual basis, what is each individual t member contributing at this time and letting them know that you see that and then revelry and fun. Because Gosh we need that right now, so maybe making an extra effort to. Fun As team members and I WANNA. Say including also in all of this I want to say you're furloughed an laid off employees as well keeping them commute. You know continuing to communicate with them showing your appreciation for them including them in some of the fun I. It may be a sensitive time for them, but but at the same time you WanNa, stay connected, stay in touch and then maybe even most important is a a level of emotional support, and some things that we may not think of in terms of the workplace relationships. But. We might want to start thinking about them now. Thinking about all of the things that your employees are going through outside of work so their spa, they may have a job, but maybe their spouse lost their job. So that's a financial strain. Is there some way that your organization can provide resources or education or coaching around budgeting and finances, and how to go through this time and you know health resources, mental health resources even like some of my clients have put together food pantries for their employees. I think that emotional piece is going to be most important when it comes to the long haul, you know really. Is Merchants we would like this to be over yesterday. I think we're in it for. Some of their role in a while so. Yeah. The Food Bank idea that so interesting, and what a switch from how we would have thought about the role of the employer in the past right, but for sure. That's really fascinating so dot. This is fantastic. Thank you so much. Got Frazier. Thank you. Oh Yeah. It's been great, so thank you so if our listeners wanted to. Have you roll out the red carpet for them. Where would they find you to do that? Oh, thank you for asking its red carpet learning dot, com, red carpet, learning dot com, and then you can find me on youtube and facebook and linked in all the social media sites as well. Excellent, thank you so much for joining us and thank you for all you're doing Donna. Pleasure. Thanks, thanks to the two of you, too. Thanks took care. So the funny thing, Jeannie is once you win. You'RE SECOND OSCAR You, really just don't care as much like the first one goes up on the shelf. It's very important. Was the second one ends up like in the closet and I know there's something you really can't relate to, but I just wanted to share a little glimpse of the. D. Put the third one in the bathroom. Jeff exactly, that's just a paperweight by that point. you know. Be Tom Hanks. We've talked. We talk about this all the time. Sure sure you do. Yeah. People didn't know this about you Adam. Quite a career in the movie pictures. All you know in the talkies. Well I love that Donna shared that she had been giving her Oscar speech. Since she was a toddler, awesome things so many of us could relate to that, but what a great conversation! Then I think it's something that's so important to you think about today, not only for customers, but also really touching on that employee morale how you can really show care as she said for. Your employees in this in this critical time and I hope I I'm sure everybody who listened got some really good things that they can start applying right away to their organizations. One hundred. One hundred I was an awesome conversation and Yeah, make sure to check out Donna because she's got all kinds of good stuff to tell you there you go, and you know what we love that you're here with us. We love that you feel like this is where you WanNa be and hang out with friends. That's US Adam. We're friends right to all these people, everybody inputs everyone, but each other yes. Now, that's not true. That's not true. 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Billy Porter On Pose, Kinky Boots And More

Pop Culture Happy Hour

28:27 min | 9 months ago

Billy Porter On Pose, Kinky Boots And More

"Hey this is Steven Thompson on this bonus episode of Pop, culture happy hour from NPR. We are bringing you an interview with the actor billy or Billie. Puerto. Recently spoke to our pal Sam Sanders for his wonderful podcast. It's been a minute taken away Sam. Today. I bring you the one the only bill reporter. So I WANNA talk about. Pose, I. Want to talk about Broadway. I WanNa talk about your background the Church because I'm also church kid but I think I got start out by asking. What's going to be up with your epic? Red Carpet looks this award season. You know we're used to seeing you work. Those looks the Tuxedo dress at the Oscars being carried into the met gala and it's wonderful Golden Samba carried by six men I'm guessing there'll be no red carpet at this year's Emmys what he gonNA do. Here's the deal. Okay. Art As activism as has always been my goal. To create a space to have different kinds of conversations surrounding what it means to be masculine what it means to gender fluid how? Yeah. So that's what it's four. I find myself inside of. The world right now. There's a time and a place for all things. Yeah. While I have chosen to be stylish by simply giving you Kaftan realness all ullmark. because. That's what I'm doing. Levin that's as far as the style for me to go right now. Okay. I'm actually very serious person and my spirit. is on the verge of being broken. This year has been hard and I have to hold onto that. Yes. Sir staying involved in staying engaged and I will say sometimes that does mean. That I. Just WanNa throw on a cute outfit. You're listening to. It's been a minute from NPR I'm Sam Sanders, and as you can hear, billy porter has a lot on his mind these days. He just saying the Democratic National Convention. In happened. In an extra thing going on right now he is up for an emmy this year for lead actor in a drama series for his starring role in the FX show post. Diva the. Buckingham Palace. High while the rest of you don't know nothing but let. From the. That's all about New York's. Ball culture in the eighties and early nineties it's also about the HIV AIDS crisis. Billy's work on that show already got him an emmy last year billy's been a mainstay on Broadway for years as well but it was his breakout role in Kinky boots that finally got him the recognition served and he got a Tony for that work in two thousand thirteen. Basically Billy Porter is a force to be reckoned with and you will hear his passion come out more in this interview. Also you'll hear him eating the salad at some point because you know he's busy and apparently he makes better once choices than I do. All right. Let's get to it in this chat billy and I talk about a little bit of everything. Love Race Pose Church and why love always wins but I will pick up where we left off at the top. Discussing the ways it billy can play off both masculinity and femininity. In his everyday life and his roles and in his fashion. I do love the things you've said about. Your outfits and what they mean and what you're trying to say politically. I think in your esquire interview, you're saying to those that would look at you a man in a address and say, that's bad. What they're really saying is that being feminine is bad and you're trying to question that and say, well, why is it bad to be feminine? Are you saying that lecture in which Mash lineages better than being feminine? That's not fair and your. Question. Exactly and I. And I appreciate you using. Your body and your clothing to raise those questions. Thank you. Yes. I think it's really important because of the black gay man whose masculinity has been in question since the moment I could comprehend thought. Mar Masculinity has been in question. But I mean by that is Jordan masculine enough to exist on the planet you need to fix yourself yeah. That's what you're saying to me. Yeah that's what I have live. I, stopped that. I took myself out of the masculinity race and that's the thing. It's a game because in you know the same people that will tell a gay black man you're to fem. At other times they'll say, well, you're faking it trying to be quote unquote mask. You can never play with anyone in this masculinity race and I think the best approaches to understand that we've all got a little bit amenity and nationally with inside A. Correct and just you right you're going to be going to be. Just being whatever it is that I'm going to be I have to tell you. What I was trying to do what everybody told me I should be doing. I was broken on employees. Yes yes. Crabs there you go. Bankrupt unemployed so real like. I read a yeah. Because I was running around here trying to be masculine and you'll never be mashing enough because you're just like the. Like. You'll never hit that bar. You'll never hit that mark. So why try and what is the point ultimately for me? It's like what is the point? I'm trying to be. Enough so that I can eat. Like literally. Yeah that's what it was. And I just. Stops well, and that's when things picked up for you reading up on your back story you hit Broadway in the early nineties you've got to roles or in Greece I think in nineteen, ninety four. But then for years, the industry is trying to give you these roles where you have to basically mask it up, make it more masculine and you turn a bunch of those things down and you're not working for a while but it wasn't. It wasn't about turning anything now. Okay. It was about not even being let into the room you're saying they wouldn't even give you that additions because you weren't mask enough for them. Iraq you know and it's like I'm actually an actor. Actually. Masculine. When I need to be you know but the judgment comes from you know the people in the road. Tell me about the process in getting to a point with. Broadway. Where you were just GonNa live in the roles that were really you. I think that kinky boots was this certain kind of turning point you come into that role up. Yeah. Well, what happened was in nineteen, ninety, four I went by myself to see a preview production of Tony Kushner's and America. Yeah. I've saw the character of Belize play Jeffrey Wright. And for the first time entire life I saw somebody in the creative. Space. That looked like me. A black gay man with a brain. Not just the butt of the joke was not just here for your clowning pleasure. But. WHO's the heart and the MORAL COMPASS Of this piece. And I thought to myself. Here I am around the corner. Playing the teen Angel in Greece, which was a wonderful experience. It's very difficult to talk about because there's a bittersweet energy that goes with it. You know Abbas stopping the show every night singing an arrangement of daily school drop-out that I did myself that I didn't get credit for. Transient around like a little Richard Automaton on crack. Participating what I call the Millennium. COON. Show. And Pigeon Holing myself into a cloud space. Got It. Took me twenty years to get out. When you're gay. And you're talented and your talent camping denied in everybody's defend. We're trying to find a space for me. Yeah. But they just don't know you trying to find a space for me. You know Greece was very kind and gracious and artistic people trying to find a space for me they were trying. Yeah. So, then what change do you think either in you're in the industry that helped get you to where you are now reject walked away. Walked away I wanNA, be seen for roles, real world's real parts, real things and the work. Just as I suspected and would. Don't worry about it. I'll do it myself, and that is when the guests of being the Creator having it come from me. I always say people that I as a fifty year old man you know we're on the last generation of people who were talking to be brilliant interpreters of other people's material. Talk more. Because the Internet and the younger generation and social media and all of that. has created an entire generation for better or for worse who knows? Feel empowered to have the content and creation come from within themselves, and who we are has to inform the role and the work, and we can't just be this blank slate for any script. That's not that's not what would that's not how it was taught in by generate. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't understand that the that the people you know who I admired in. Musical Theater, for instance, like a Stephen Sondheim. Jason Robert, Brown, or an Adam ghetto or all these people who came up with day didn't live my life. Yeah. So they can't tell my story. Tell me what part what role, what moment when you felt that all those things were fully realized. A lot of folks will say. Okay, that's what I thought I wanNA. Talk about that for a second. You really went about making the roll your own how different was the role that they were trying to give to you what you ended up playing. Well obviously, you've done some research August. Yes. I will take that crocked. So the original movie are Cubans El Edgy for played. Lola. You know. He was a man address. Yeah he was. He was A. You know a part of A. John Mara. That is acceptable straight man and address. For. Comedic effect. -actly. Yeah. Because everybody feels comfortable. Knowing that that straight man is going to go home and have sex with his wife and put on pants, right? Yeah and for me. It was. This film and watching this film and getting this part. And Initially They wanted him to be a straight boxer. Straight boxer. Okay and it was like. I saw this movie The boxing is not the point. I know I know for. A fact. Personally. That With everything I have on through. For me to finally get the moment. To create a role on by. Who happens to be a drag queen and that I'm GonNa say she's straight is irresponsible. Yeah. It's actually irresponsible. Yeah. So I can't do. Time for a break coming up talk more about Billy's work on pose in the parallels he sees between the AIDS crisis of the eighties in the pandemic that we're in today. This message comes from NPR SPONSOR TALLAGHT DOC TELE DOC is here for you with twenty four, seven access to board certified doctors who can diagnose and treat emergency conditions like sinus infections, allergies, rashes, and more and tell docs doctors can where authorized Collina a prescription to be filled at the pharmacy of your choice download the APP today or visit Tele Doc dot com slash NPR. We're talking about kinky boots and how that was still a moment where you had to. Declare that you're gonNA, make this character gay and now you're on pose a show that is decidedly queer all the way up and down. Signifies even more shift I think in the industry are you surprised by that shift I? Mean there's continued positive movement in terms of representation of Queer people and the see your show pose and to see you for so many emmys. This award season are you surprised it's happening now in two thousand twenty. Four said not now it blows my mind. Okay. Tell me about the when I started coming to New York in the late eighties and trying to be in the business you know there was no context. For someone. Who looked like me? You know so. There was no context to dream about it. Yeah like I've always had huge dreams. What I but they were always springboard or something I had already seen. What experience with post has done for me? It's taught me t dreamed the possible. To, take, my own glass ceiling off of my dreams and dream the stuff that I can't even think yet. I mean, it is really hard to overstate. This is a show about ball culture a show about queer people of color dealing with the HIV crisis. I, mean this is it's really hard to overstate how big of a deal this is. Do you think besides this? The trajectory of the industry getting more inclusive? Is there something about the now that's making this pop. You know because ball culture's been around for some time Paris is burning decades old Madonna was voting ripping off. People in the nineties like why as ball culture itself with pose really hitting right now you think. I think. We need hope. We can't. Forget about hope. And this group of people. She uses life. Anyway. In the face. Of. Nothing. They have nothing. The world has rejected them. Their families have rejected them. There's a disease ravaging the community. And they choose light anyway. Yeah and they danced. NFL. Less the message that the entire world has to be reminded that especially in this period of time. Where you know there are days. That feel very hopeless to me. Yeah I mean you were saying earlier that your spirit is on the verge of being broken I don't WanNa pry but actually I do. How hard is it? It's just difficult. It's difficult to watch. America. Give vol's into what it has become. and. Really be confronted with the truth that. Whiteness white privilege white supremacy of the only thing that matter in this country. You know what's so interesting to me We are in the in this year. Wear a rate is on the front page. You know like you're saying, we're having conversation about the systemic oppression of people of color happened in this country for centuries, and it's kind of a dark time I think when it comes to race relations and yet. Shows like yours. full of black joy shows like insecure, full of black joy. To you. Shouldn't be surprise art is always at the forefront of James Yes it's moments like this. When in fact shows like insecure impose. Thrive because we're the necessity. whereas. The anecdote what's going on in the world? We've always been the people to speak from the power. I will always have its historical and speak joy to darkness. Yes. So it should be no surprise that pose exists in space because this is when it has to. I want you to take a second for those who were living under a rock to talk about what? I hear a spoon. I thought I was from Syria months earlier that's fine I don't mind. Eating my I have so many things going. No. I. You have to eat eating just being nosy now. To let you so healthy. Some tacos but I'm GonNa get those afterwards. Anyway I know. For those who have been living under a ROCK AND MISSING THEIR BLESSING Tell, folks what poses in who your character on the show is briefly. Pose is about a community, the ball culture community. Based in the nineteen eighties African American Latino and people of Color lgbtq people who? Have Been. Rejected from their communities from society, put out of their homes for being eligible to Q. and they find comfort in family. So than family in this culture houses, sort of represent family and the balls are. Sunday church it's. Still. Totally Church. Church and you are. Your kick to pray tell is the ringmaster of sense. Essentially. I'm MC. I am the father figure in this space. Our show has five transgender women of color at the helm. And Jay Rodriguez is mother Blanca. Yes. She really. Is the emotional heart and soul of the show always say she carries her show. Like Jesus went cross on his back on to Damascus. She carries it all. Yeah. Yeah you know I'm so grateful to. Have lived long enough to see this story is actually being told this story is actually being honored. And balanced and not just valid I just find it particularly timely. Especially talking about your season to arc. Prato season two, he has HIV diagnosis and he becomes an AIDS activist. And you're seeing him deal with what was then a pandemic. And to see, which is about the pandemic that was HIV aids to see it air now. I feel some some parallels between how America is dealing with the pandemic that we're facing today. Yeah. I mean I'm sure you must have had those conversations to their lessons I think for America. And how to deal with a pandemic that can be learned from shows like pose and for the communities that lived through the worst of the AIDS crisis I think yeah. I there are many similarities and. With some of you think is the biggest. The destruction. Death. The death toll. With a government. WHOSE RESPONSE Clearly, is about not caring you know if it doesn't affect the people in power, they don't do anything about it. How does it feel then as a black gay man? To see that kind of response today. After having seen of response that was in some ways similar with the H. V. Eight crisis in a different White House that's that's what I'm talking about when I say I'm on the brink You know it is. Devastating and Anxiety is through the roof and. For the, first time. In a really long time. I am scared. For those that are looking for some historical comparison of maybe some hope from our past. As someone who lived through. The AIDS crisis as someone who is a part of that community that was so affected. What do you think the lesson America needs to learn from that pandemic is in the midst of this one. Love, always wins love always wins. Tell me more. That's it. Time for one more break when we come back billy porter takes us, to, church be. Lisa Hagen and I'm Chris Axel were the hosts of no compromise NPR's new podcast exploring one families mission to reconstruct America using too powerful tools, guns, and facebook new episodes drop every Tuesday join us for the no compromise podcast from. NPR. was speaking lessons and learning lessons. we haven't talked about church but I think we should now because all through this interview hearing church and I'm seeing church in your looks and you've talked about this I mean. The attitude you bring to the runway for me. That was very much informed by that. Sunday struck down the church the way you're doing this interview with me feels very much like a sermon Sunday at church like. I as a pentecostal church Kid I can. Literally. Feel the spirit in you and I want to just ask. How much is the ethos of that Church of that Black Church still working through you and then you through your work because I feel. Well, I always say that my art is my ministry. Yes you know when I was young. I two from the PENTECOSTAL church. And what I'm about to say I don't mean it to sound shady, but the reality is. Unfortunately Sometimes oftentimes. Our church communities inside of the black community. Are the only spaces we have. Yes right. So to drain outside of. That infrastructure and those doctrines. Is Often. Not An option. For many people. It's not an option so when I was coming up. And people felt something special about me. Immediately they go to. Any kid who is in any way charismatic or even flamboyant and like a good performer. The only track sometimes church family can see for you is the pulpit because that's all they know and I think also in the strangely caring way. The Black Church wants to keep especially young black boys who were gay. They want to keep them in the church so they can protect them. Right. I think a lot of them say you'll be safer in here with us than out there in that world that can be really mean to gay people and it's it's weird like it's limited, but it's also in this roundabout way daycare anyways. It is you end up as you end up giving a sermon at the age of eleven at your church because they see the gift in you and so you got to preach. Do. You remember that. I I don't remember what I said, but I remember. Doing it I remember being in front of the Pool Pit I. Remember Hating it really remember telling my mother afterwards. That's not. What did she say? She said? Okay Okay. I don't like it. THAT'S NOT A. To, do that. It sounds terrifying. It wasn't terrified of sign at it. I like it. It didn't feel real. Didn't feel it felt limiting. I can dream outside of this sort of marginalized space and reach. More people reach a different kind of person like it's different. It's different. Yeah. But this is my minister you are seeing my ministering. In front of Kinky, boots is your sermon. Pose is your sermon correct? What do you think you've taken most from the church into your work? Well, the black pentecostal churches, all theater and. So, my showmanship. showmanship like you just said earlier, it's from church. Yeah. You know that's my showmanship the other thing that I've been. Able to take into life are just the fundamental values. That I think even though we as human beings don't live up to those values sometimes. They aren't there. And they are taught. And I was blessed to be grounded in. A place of love. Yeah I. Wonder You know this is. You now. If you're back in that same church now as an adult as the billy porter. And they asked you to preach again. And they say we love you and accept you for just who you are. You can preach about whatever you want. What is the topic of this sermon now in two thousand twenty? That y'all wrong. Okay you're just as wrong about gay people as white people were wrong about black people. Wow. That's the sorrow. Why do people have used the Bible? To justify slavery. To justify racism to justify black people being one third of the person or three fourth person or whatever that bobble barks they got from the Bible. Yeah y'All are long. And I'm here in front of you to tell you that you're wrong. That's what I was put on this planet to do and be. I am a human being. I am a human being and there's nothing wrong with my love. Period. Thanks again to billy porter, he is up for an emmy this year for his work on the ethic show hosts. Our listeners don't forget. You're part of this show as well. This Friday we're back with another episode and in that episode feature listeners sharing the best parts of their week we want to hear from you for that segment record yourself on your phone sharing the best part of your week and send that file to me email it to Sam Sanders at NPR dot Org Sam Sanders at NPR dot Org till. Friday. Thank you for listening. I'm Sam, Sanders we'll talk soon.

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Byte Matt Ryan Red Carpet

Sci-Fi Talk Byte

05:16 min | 1 year ago

Byte Matt Ryan Red Carpet

"Hi Welcome to season two of bite. This is Tony till auto parenting unpopular. It's it's not the same way that you know how it works. Any of US usually two to four minutes long but sometimes they can be a little longer when you when you live long enough. All kinds of strange things happen very right in saying that the Greek heroes the original superheroes in part because of the hopeful nature of genes vision but also because of its message of diversity and inclusion. I spoke to Matt Ryan on the Red Carpet for Justice League dark at the directors Guild Batmans and I. I'm all these other hero. Yeah you can never do on TV. Yeah it's IT'S AT. That's that was one of the most exciting fun things to do. You know I don't actually really interact with them because you're in a booth and you're on your own but you know knowing what the script laws and get into play? Those things was a fun thing and I've read about his relationship with his and swamping. You know all these people are men get into kind of just put what I learned underneath The dialogue on everything was great. It was a great thing at another thing too is. This isn't the last Constantine animated. I heard you're going to be doing more. That is correct. Yes so I was away traveling. Recently I took the time to go to poly An amazing place lifetime to go. Oh Yeah it's not ask way and I got an email from David. Goya's say look we want to do this thing what do you think and I just you know replied saying I'm in because I love the character and he hasn't gone away you know it's been two years since the TV show was on doing the the Arrow this and now we're doing the the animated series on CWC so. I'm really excited to see where we what we can do with him. And why we're going to go much material Some so great source material so I look forward to working with with David. Goya again. The producer on the live action show and Greg Berlanti side. Yeah it's great is. Is there going to be any kind of limitations on what you can do and say? I don't know I don't know at this point. I don't know I'm just like exciting excited to see what we're GonNa do with him. And there's so many different avenues so many different stories to tell. I'll be interested to see what we come up with what we're GONNA do so I guess the series was over. You probably figured that was it right. I was like that's said I'm GONNA I'M GONNA go back to stage. You Tread the votes and I did that and then Then you know what I'm doing this. Tv Show in the UK at the moment which is called the Halcion which is in one thousand nine hundred drama set in this five star. Luxurious Hotel called the House here in London and I play an American broadcast journalist. Who's based loosely? Edward R Murrow and his name is Joel. Horrible it's by graphical. He's very much his own person but he comes into the hotel and starts hearing. There's some meetings going on behind closed doors and He tricked kicks a bit of a fuss. And it's such a such a far cry from Constantine while I played on stage. That's what I love about it. You know what I mean. It's a period piece and the clothes and the sets and everything. Yeah I mean the cost. I mean all the costumes were absolutely amazing and I was. I was actually. I couldn't keep any of the suits suits grade and all those big wide. It suits in the tribe's I think you should dress like that more often than they are. We going to see it here in the state I hope so. Yeah I believe so It's it's airing the sixth episode on Monday in the UK. So we'll see. I think we're still waiting to see whether it would be wrong him. And what kind of commitment to you. Have on the show I'm committed to do to do another season. We'll see what happens with the character but you know yes so. I'm looking for something to kind of work on in between it's always very difficult to find something that you WanNa do that fits in between these things but You know hopefully. The show will concert series. It's got so much potential great cast and crew great writers producers and Yeah I really hope he gets picked up again so I can explore more of that That time an era of the type of Joel Hara. What about the big screen? Any thoughts about that Yeah I'd love to do some on the big screen. I think it's finding the right project in kind of Doing something to do as diverse. Things as possible. You know Going from being blonde chain smoking you know so willing to you know Paying Joe Haro. So it's all about the roles to me when my my first love is saw. What was going to the theater every couple of years if I can say I just feel lucky. Blessed be able to get to play the roles that I have and hopefully continues look for Matt Ryan Voicing Constantine once again in jail a dark apocalypse war for bite this Tony Tiller.

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Byte Matt Ryan Red Carpet

Sci-Fi Talk

05:16 min | 1 year ago

Byte Matt Ryan Red Carpet

"Hi Welcome to season two of bite. This is Tony till auto parenting and unpopular ABS. It's it's not the same way that you know how it works. Any of US usually two to four minutes long but sometimes they can be a little longer when you when you live long enough. All kinds of strange things happen very right in saying that the Greek heroes the original superheroes in part because of the hopeful nature of genes vision but also because of its message of diversity and inclusion. I spoke to Matt Ryan on the Red Carpet for Justice League dark at the directors Guild Batmans. I am all these other hero. Yeah you can never do on TV. Yeah it's IT'S AT. That's that was one of the most exciting fun things to do. You know I don't actually really interact with them because you're in a booth and you're on your own but you know knowing what the script laws and get into play? Those things was a fun thing and I've read about his relationship with his Atanas swamping. You know all these people are men get into kind of just put what I learned underneath The dialogue on everything was great. It was a great thing at another thing too is. This isn't the last Constantine animated. I heard you're going to be doing more. That is correct. Yes so I was away traveling. Recently I took the time to go to poly Amazing Place Lifetime to go. Oh Yeah it's not ask way and I got an email from David. Goya's say look we want to do this thing what do you think and I just you know replied saying I'm in because I love the character and he hasn't gone away you know it's been two years since the TV show was on doing the the Arrow this and now we're doing the the animated series on CWC so. I'm really excited to see where we what we can do with him. And why we're going to go so much material Some so great source material so I look forward to working with with David. Goya again. The producer on the live action show and Greg Berlanti. Yeah it's great is. Is there going to be any kind of limitations on what you can do and say? I don't know I don't know at this point you know. I'm just like exciting excited to see what we're GONNA DO WITH HIM. And there's so many different avenues so many different stories to tell. I'll be interested to see what we come up with what we're GONNA do so I guess the series was over. You probably figured that was it right. I was like that's said I'm GONNA I'M GONNA go back to stage. You Tread the votes and I did that. And then What I'm doing this. Tv Show in the UK at the moment. Which is called the Halcion which is in one thousand nine hundred drama set in this five star? Luxurious Hotel called the House here in London and I play an American broadcast journalist. Who's based loosely? Edward R Murrow and his name is Joel. Horrible it's by graphical. He's very much his own person but he comes into the hotel and starts hearing. There's some meetings going on behind closed doors and He tricked kicks a bit of a fuss. And it's such a such a far cry from Constantine while I played on stage. That's what I love about it. You know what I mean. It's a period piece and the clothes and the sets and everything. Yeah I mean the cost. I mean all the costumes were absolutely amazing and I was. I was actually. I couldn't keep any of the suits suits grade and all those big wide. It suits in the tribe's I think you should dress like that more often than they are. We going to see it here in the state I hope so. Yeah I believe so It's it's airing the sixth episode on Monday in the UK So we'll see. I think we're still waiting to see whether it would be wrong him. And what kind of commitment to you. Have on the show I'm committed to do to do another season. We'll see what happens with the character but you know yes so. I'm looking for something to work on in between. It's always very difficult to find something that you WanNa do. That fits in between these things but You know hopefully. The show will conceive series. It's got so much. Potential great cast and crew great writers producers and Yeah I really hope he gets picked up again so I can explore more of that That time an era of the type of Joel Hara. What about the big screen? Any thoughts about that Yeah I'd love to do some on the big screen. I think it's finding the right project in kind of Doing something to do as diverse. Things as possible. You know Going from being blonde chain smoking you know so willing to you know Paying Joe Haro. So you know. It's all about the roles to me when my my first love is saw. What was going to the theater every couple of years? If I can say I just feel lucky. Blessed be able to get to play the roles that I have and hopefully continues look for Matt Ryan Voicing Constantine once again in jail a dark apocalypse war for bite this Tony Tiller.

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Milo Manheim, Meg Donnelly scare up some musical fun with 'Zombies 2'

Off the Red Carpet with George Pennacchio

19:18 min | 1 year ago

Milo Manheim, Meg Donnelly scare up some musical fun with 'Zombies 2'

"This is off the red carpet with George for Nacchio sponsored by Mercedes Benz everyone. Welcome to off the red carpet. I'm George Per Nacchio. Joined today by two. We'll call them. Disney channel superstars aside from being a star in. Abc aside from almost winning dancing with the stars. We have McDonalds and Milo Mannheim with us right. Now let's talk about zombies to. Did you know what was immediately going to get a sequel? After did so well. We were hoping that it would but we didn't. Nobody tells us anything. So the only thing we know is when Disney actually informally. We'll tell us that it's happening. But we had a hunch that it was going to happen. Yeah we are hoping Just any excuse to like get back together and to work together again. Yeah Meguid you say. This one is better than the original. That's really hard. The originals always going to be the original. I feel like the first movie always has a special thing to it. Because you you fall in love with the characters like and you know I feel like just because that in Addison. We're getting to know each other in the first movie and it's really like just the blossoming of their relationship. It's just different but think about it like high school musical high school musical. One is obviously conic right. Yeah I love the second one so much because it's just like the not better but they're just different more elevated. I guess you know where everything's elevated. Sometimes that when it's something on the Disney channel or Disney channel. It's only a certain age group but I bet you're gonNa tell me right now you have eight-year-olds in your work thousand percent. We have multiple college students that support the age range. I feel like just Disney. In general the age ranges like birth to leg to eighty eighty two I to death that Disney is just all around just like a global phenomenon is true. Does anyone gets to come and play with. You wasn't in the original that you want to tell me about a whole new pack coming movie coming into Seabrook but what happens with them. It's a long long journey with the werewolves. And the zombies and the humans and it's it's a complex sort of story line because when I come to Seabrook they take to. Addison very well like they think that she is their savior. They think that she's the one that's going to lead them to find the moonstone which is when they're looking for and Zad from the outside perspective sees the where wolves getting very close with. Addison and that scares them a little bit. I think he's a little bit threatened. By one of the world's I kind of liked Addison's bluntness question. She answered. I WanNa take you to prompt. No Yeah it's just straight up savage like that. She's very honest also accepting what she tells people how it is for sure she says it. How it is you get some interesting makeup so it's not Unless we're going to talk about meg because I'm wondering whether or not meg you're kind of like a fashion plate always on the red carpet and I wonder if you had any input into what you wear in zombies to. I actually didn't to be honest. Not or did I did not get in. Oh yeah contraction. Really yeah honestly. I'm trying to think if I did. No I remember like with the White Wig like I wanted it to be longer. I think and but that also is not my decision at the end of the day while I was like it'd be cool but but yeah yeah but No I feel like in the movies. I feel like since I'm like acting I'm dislike the actor. And then however they want however they want the character to be then. I'm there for a night display both actors and singers and dancers true. We try dancing with the stars experience. Make it easier for round two. I think that I mean dancing with the stars has ballroom and zombies is not ballroom so the the dancing itself. It was so different. It's not even like comparable but my work ethic. Just I feel so much better on dancing with the stars that I was able to apply that to zombies when we had to learn numbers in a very small amount of time lots of numbers and a small amount of time I was able to just grind which I don't think I did as hard on the first movie. So do you have the most fun here singing acting or dancing. That's such a crazy question because it's so separate when you dance. It's dancing for the day and you're learning how to dance and when you sing your in the studio and you're singing for the day and when you're acting you're acting it's you can't choose one. The my favorite thing was altogether and you get to watch the movie and you could see it. All that's words. He was a salesman and another life. He he really would. I learned from Jim Halpern. He's my inspiration. I think that it's fair to say that you have to have a lot of skills. And there was a time where performers were told. You have to pick one. You have to make a lane day in it and neither one of you is important. Times changed or you define what other people have told you. I think the times have definitely changed. We we're just doing what we love to do. If we love to act and sing or dance couldn't do it. Yeah I feel like there was like an added pressure on you know choosing one thing and like this has to be your thing but nowadays. I feel like people whatever they feel. They're going to go passionate about they. Just go for Super Lucky. Yeah Theater is a theatre kids marine. Yeah seriously win. You go onto the set for the first time after. You've already done one of these. Is it old home week or are you meeting? Is it all starting over from square one? I mean I wouldn't say it's starting over. I would say it's a completely different experience different. In its own way and the first one we were also new to it and we were being introduced to it idea like what Toronto was like. No this place but we had somewhat of an understanding of the city and we got to meet all these people. It was fully at different. It's a new movie. It's a new time. Yeah we're just a huge family like as it is and we always hang out outside of set and everything and so just having new characters just like expanded our family and there was new dancers children. Like there's a lot of new people and it just yeah. It was a really cool experience. I'M GONNA compliment you too in a way that please take this the right way. Okay but you started out in this business. Young and there are a lot of people who have been in positions like yours. That have veered kind of off the tracks and not into good places but you have both stayed the course and you you see what like what's the other end. You see what you want. Is it your parents that have shared on the street avenue? Oh a huge majority of that ultimate mom but I mean also ultimately. It just comes down to me and meg both love to do it. Yeah I don't think we'd want to do anything to jeopardize not being able now. I also feel like it's a mindset to like Milo and die and the rest of the cast of zombies like we have mentality that's like we're all we're all in this together and no no pun intended and there's no like levels. It's like we're not like. Oh this person has this and it's not a competition like we're all just working together exactly and we all WanNa have a good bond and we wanna make a family forever. So it's not about. I feel like that's when it gets really complicated and crazy when people start putting ego into it you know so. Let's start with you on this question. Then mount you are on a television show. You're in this movie and you sing and you have goals. So what's the next thing on your list that you would love? Hollywood say gotTA GET MEG Donnelly for this. Just like an ultimate goal like in life like my ultimate ultimate goal. Not probably not anytime soon but like to be in a marvel movie. Now it'd be my dream. That could be soon. I don't know but marvels like a huge part of my life and like I. Yeah that'd be the craziest thing ever Mussa's trust always at the marvel. Premiere is covering them and she always wiggles a ticket out of someone to be. Yeah ever met a more intense marvel fan. I love it so much. Like what do you call it tag? Gamertag when she was growing up on seventy five yea she's invest. It still might username on some things because you can't change it and it's really it's really important it. Have you met Chris Hemsworth? I actually the endgame from here for like one second. I was like high. He was a gay. And I'd I'd like hey I was like with his wife and I was like this is awkward. You was inaugurated on That was insane because it was like a lifelong dream to me him. So we're come seconds knowing that that's the future hope of yours and yet you have. What how many years of school left? Well technically three but if something comes along I'm GonNa take it because I wanted to. You know I mean I definitely. I never really had any classical training so I just thought that I was thrown into the business so fast. Zombies was the first thing I ever booked and it was. It was all happening so fast I needed to take a second and really like learn you know and just being in classes and meeting other kids who are just as passionate as I am about acting. It's really cool to be surrounded by those people. So are you now realizing all these cool classmates of yours or your competition? I don't think about it as competition. I think about it as future people. I can work with you. Know it's either so it's so cool to I'm figuring new things out about myself every day about me as a person me as an actor and I'm really happy that I chose to go to college because a lot of kids would have just tried to pursue the career which. I'm still doing Chris what you are going to school in. New York where they shoot various television shows. There are lots of stages there. Are you going out for anything or is it strictly school in New York right now? I mean you you get out what you put in. And I'm really putting a lot to the schoolwork right now because I want to get a lot out of it You know there's a lot of rehearsal time just because we do scenes a lot in class and I really like to spend time on them because the more familiar you are with the material. I feel like the better you can. You can do when you're on stage in the the more real. You can be invulnerable so when I'm not spending time doing work for school. I'm seeing theater. Transfer enough did anyone give you great acting advice that you think about every day when you're on the set of American housewife I always think Dietrich always give such great advice. He gives me advice like every day. I'm trying to think if there's one specific to acting this is your TV deb. I'd t t drink wine. Td DRIK Baiter. I'm trying to think of anything specific a lot of times. It's about like staying in the moment a lot like when we're doing like yeah especially in film to be distracted. It's really hard but he does such a good job. He's never really given me advice about it but I see him do it. And I learned so much from him in Katie and just thought they're worth ethic in the way they work is just so incredible so I've learned for four years like so much And I think Daniel and Julia might. Tv something say the same but de-jure can just like stay in the moment so easily and then even if he starts laughing because the line's funny he just gets right back into it like it's insane so yeah he's definitely. Yeah that's he's been doing it for a very long time but yeah he's incredible but on for a long time now. I think what you've been acting. What about seven years now professionally? Yeah I think when I was eleven I started auditioning but like the first thing I really got was American House when I was sixteen so like five years of just auditioning was hard work. But it's good that you learn that I think you'll learn from various things in life and I'm sure your mother Cameron Manheim. Milo has taught you about volunteering. 'cause I went over your bio. You've spent the bulk of your life doing things that are you know for social reasons which is fantastic. I know and I'm trying to. I want to create something of my own. Right now is lack of figuring that out. I gotta find something that you know. There's there's so many directions I can go with it but I just WanNa make sure that what I'm doing is going to really impact the world. It's kind of Nice though when you give back. Doesn't it feel good man? It really does? Yeah I love like volunteering. And so it's the it's true happiness giving back. I mean that's it's the there's no better feeling. I mc a competition every year. It's from this group. In bellflower California called arts allowed and all the kids that are in it which are generally teenagers have to pick a charity and they play and if they win they get some prize money but the charity gets the prize money so great because they learn early on the importance of giving back and they all tell me on stage how great it feels and sometimes they're playing for a brain foundation because they're Brown. Sibling has a brain issue or diabetes. Because MOM has diabetes. And it's just really lovely and it connects you so quickly. It really does see that. It's pretty cool okay. You had a weird hobby at one point and it's only because it's on IMDB that I'm bringing this up about to say. Do you still collect bottles of Cologne? Absolutely just got one yesterday. I don't know what it's called though. My stylist gave it to me because I said he smelled amazing and I might be wearing right now. No I'm not but the musk one white. Musk has an imprint on. I remember the one we like. I went to Toronto. We are looking for it on so many so you collect discreet. Cologne also as the crates. Okay so when you know when he can smell perfumes and like name the perfumes thank you like but he also that's a big thing for him ladies if you smell good that's like that's like number two on the list smell good like ten times going for a hug you don't know but I'm I'm giving a slight. Yeah yeah no it's true don't you done? Yeah yeah so he collects. Cologne collect cufflinks. Oh really I used to collect seashells when I was younger. I used to have a huge basket of this. I don't really do it anymore. But low fund just collects accolades. You need to get our Cologne. Seashell cuff link collections. You to clearly get along you like being around each other whether there's zombies three or not Disney channel. There could be some other projects that you might work on. Keep doing more stuff. I haven't done very much in the industry but I've talked to my mom about it a lot. And she's had a lot of experiences and every day that she see that meg together or the caskets together. She's like the dynamic between all you guys is ridiculous the fact that they were able to find you guys and you guys get along so well is just crazy so. I don't WANNA lose that. Yeah hypothetically even if we don't work together ever again like we're GONNA be in each other's lives forever no matter what and I'm so excited for that so right now. You're at a point where you do a lot of stuff. That would be considered family entertainment. Let's say some offer from some great director. Came along but was an edgy. Maybe a little racy. Look I don't know about you direction. I'm trying to go. I want to want to show everybody what I can do. Yeah like a director came to the two of us and was like is already talking about yes percents director in. You're listening we're open down. You really want to let people know that there is. The layers are just beginning to become an ASS. Yes that's exactly what the chemistry's already there. So if you want to audition we'll just do it all right. I'm getting all sorts of good information from you to. Let's get back to zombies to write your premiering on the Disney channel on February Fourteenth Valentine's Day. And what makes it the perfect Valentine's gift for someone you love The wall man movie? No I mean it's so much more than that everything in this movie But it is. It's kind of a complex love story what's going on between out of San and Wyatt. Ed sees that that's going on fusing but it's definitely I don't want to spoil anything but it's it's happy there. Yeah Yeah I mean it's Disney. You gotta you gotTa go with that. We love truck potentially gold. I wouldn't even thousand words to describe the soundtrack when we first heard the songs we were like. There's no way cried. We listened to the songs on a lot of and the first time we listen to it. It was the cast all the dancers we sit down and they give us like script so we can follow along in the songs and we just sit there and they play it and we just listen and we get super hyped about it and we cry. We laugh and it's when the someday reprise came on. I bawled my eyes out one last question about zombies to and then I'm GonNa let you actually head out into traffic and somebody look look you have become. The elder statesman of this franchise raise in. There are younger. People that are in this movie. I just wonder what some of the kids have. Come up to you to ask about how they can do what you do or any kind of advice that someone your age could offer to someone slightly younger. They a lot of kids. Ask Me like I really WANNA get into the business like how like. What do you suggest and like not even just the easiest way to say like you know? Take acting classes like me casting directors. We'll law but I think it's really important for kids to Kai Aina go deep down and realize how passionate they are about it because it's so hard and it's such a hard business and it's like hard work you have to give up a lot for it but you're not gonNa make it if you don't truly love truly believe in yourself and believe in the you know the art itself and I think that's really important could if they're doing it like Oh i WanNa be on. Tv that'd be cool. It's incredible for sure but I feel like just finding your passion for it is like the number one step. Yeah people can really see that. Also so mega smartly. Saving her money and putting it into your education. So you gotta work. It costs a lot of money. It's true another movie era. Do why you know you can always come back to California. Yeah no that's fantastic. Our guest today are meg. Donelly and Milo. Mannheim the stars of Disney channel's Zombie to and you will see that on February fourteenth. Apm Go all right. Thanks for joining us. Another Disney also red carpet. I'm George Pinocchio Meg and Milo Galtieri. Thank you so much on us.

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Stars of 'The Good Doctor' talk about season 3 of ABC's hit drama series

Off the Red Carpet with George Pennacchio

22:31 min | 1 year ago

Stars of 'The Good Doctor' talk about season 3 of ABC's hit drama series

"This is off the Red Carpet with George Pinocchio sponsored by Mercedes Benz Harvey One and welcome to another edition of off the red carpet carpet. I'm George Pinocchio and today it's all about the good doctor Freddie highmore and his cast mates from the show checked in for a third season on. ABC Freddie's Freddie's character. Dr Sean Murphy has grown quite a bit during the dramas I two seasons both professionally. And personally. Recently I went to Vancouver the visit Freddie and several other cast members and we talked about. What's ahead this season on the good doctor? Let's begin with Freddie I feel like he is is once again a step ahead of where he was last season. So and watching the first episode I liked that. He's unto New Adventures. And I feel like Antonia is kind of your counselor. Yeah although it's interesting. I feel like their relationship between Sean and Claire will turn turn to a new direction at some point this year which is exciting. But obviously the other thing that you're referring to sean dating for the first time in his relationship with carly and taking that step by step and seeing how it goes. There's something about carly's face and her smile. That seems to tell me things when she doesn't speak when when she's reacting to you I feel like I mean obviously just a wonderful activity get to work with and I feel like she does wonderful. Actors do finding those moments that are silent that are about the nuances or the pauses. Instead of just the the lines. Are we going to get to see. See more of your characters personal life the season. Yes yeah I think so. It depends what you mean in terms of how much we're on Moss King Sean. I I mean I don't think he suddenly you yes. Yes in that regard. Yes it has to be exciting. Who because it's another area of this character you get to play more? Yeah and obviously. We've teased out from the very beginning with Sean Lee relationship van getting to see him. Interact with others outside the hospital but But Yeah it's it's certainly an exciting season ahead in terms of Sean in his his romantic love life and you say things to Dr Melendez and then he just Kinda has a look because what you've said make sense he's mastered the look of. I need to listen handed him. Yes Yeah it's always fun to get to do scenes with neck. I feel like in general. That's what's that's what's exciting. I've noticed more during season three. Is that you know all of the actors that you're working with so while at this point and everyone knows those characters and so it's always looking being for of course the movements that you were that you were talking about that. Everyone knows and loves it at the same time challenging ourselves to find new versions of that so it doesn't just become repetitive. In any way I noticed one of the donors at the hospital happens to be the bates. Family yes I feel like. That's something that no one else has noticed. So you've clearly been standing the phoned donuts for now. The personal lives of two other doctors who practice as with Dr Murphy. At Saint Bonaventure Hospital will be a big part of season. Three Christina Chang who plays Dr Audrey Lim and has now been promoted to chief of surgery is in a not so secret relationship with Dr Neal Melendez played by Nicholas Gonzalez. Seeing the first episode. I know Oh that this coupling works and I wanted to stay together but I fear that it won't because it's the good doctor and that's what we're allowed tough trying times ahead there are. There's a little tension little tension that's all we can say really. Isn't that terrible terrible that we can't give you anything Laurie or that. You've been doing this for so long George and you still haven't learned. We still try it faster so let me just say this though. I'm rooting for you. And I think that's a sign that I like both of these characters. Now now I really like I really like this character. Jinx there are moments here in this as we see the progression of your relationship. Where like like you? Just get a little snippet kisses I call them and so all seems very very real. Why do you think why do you think these two at least are working for now? There's so much respect. There's so much history and I feel like it's it's built on this mutual respect that really gets tested which were in the middle of right now. You know what what. We're shooting in a big way but if it comes from this this this history respect I think it starts there and Once once you're there I think that's a really great You know baseline for a relationship you know coming from that. Yeah they were also wanting to explore. I'm first of all they've known each other for such a long time. That's where that mutual respect comes from and then exploring sort sort of a more mature relationship versus. I guess what Murphy's going through but that's fun that's fun the Murphy stuff because you've all all invested in him and you want to know the end of a store you want to know what's happening in his life. I liked that a lot too. That's great it's great to see and I think especially in that first episode comes along you know we're all even our characters or so interested in seeing how this is going to look like because I think we all have a very sincere affection in for Sean Murphy. Some actors like a love scene some actor tate love scene for some. It's like any other seen. What about for you? Oh well uh I love seeing meaning just romantic. Things started stuttering Those kinds of scenes. I'm never comfortable with. It's uncomfortable for me. I get like sweaty betty. And he's better at it than I think. We're you know you're more concerned about camera. Everything else are they. Are they taking care of you. You know we're both like against your nose rose and that that's on our minds other than but I think when we're still around each other it's it's fun and it's so relaxed but much rather it be with her than which by the way in real life we've known each other for a long time too so I don't know that I knew that for about eighteen years. Yeah Yeah Nice all right. Is it my imagination. Or as the seasons pass the writers just love giving you difficult words medically to say in his character has them the most. If you like. It's between you and Freddie I mean I'm just I'm admin now I don't know say one linear him cells note langer him sell his doses. That say lamb lamb your cells. CBC ABC CBC. Atalay pays emily's driver. That's I was watching an you're in a surgery in pursuit of the season. And you have more of that Medical Lincoln so I just always amazed. I know that can be easy. Also being a boss is not easy and I think we're going to see I think every boss who well makes me worry makes me wonder I mean I think every boss at home that understands the things the boss has to do will will sympathize with what you have to do here thank you. There's never enough money you ever. You couldn't pay her enough. No I love it. I love this new position for the staff. There's never been for me. Yeah chief limbs fine. Yeah I love it. I love being boss. Give me something that I can tell viewers that they definitely can look forward to the season and you can be as mysterious and mystical as you like You'RE GONNA say motorcycle you're GONNA see Kith are we going to cry more or laugh more. I think there's a lot of bore of about. There's there's more there's more you're going to see. I think a very mature relationship and they're very realistic circumstances. You know as you know from watching this show we're not we don't lean into the relationship angle normally of soap opera type show but there's more there's line more this time. The relationships are in there but a very like a set of very grounded real mature dealing with problems that are so much bigger than themselves and trying to desperately hold on while all this is going on around you will also be seeing more of Dr. Alex Park played by Willian Lee. The character there's an ex cop WHO's turned to the medical profession for his second career. I WANNA be serious and I hope you'll go along with being for this and you don't have to but since I follow you on social media and I'm really interested in your stories. I am really connecting to your son. I think that you are trying to to let people know about what's going on. And I'm guessing to help raise money and I would like to be able to shine a light on on this illness. well No no I you know. It's it's it's so my son about three years ago was diagnosed with the disease called Moya. Am Moya and essentially. It's where in the simplest of terms. We're all the blood vessels in your brain to start collapsing. One by one and Three years ago yes I wrote. He was three years old. And it's been a it's been a long journey Long Journey of Treating something that was misdiagnosed for awhile and and we're starting to see some light with with the magic and the the help of of some amazing doctors And so I remember coming to this show the first time I stepped onto the set I just started. I just broke down because it was exactly the hospital. They the first season hospital they recreated was exactly what we lived in for like two years and so it was. It was really hard for me to to come onto sat for the first couple of weeks and and as time progressed things got better but part of part of doing this show Because it was just kind of the way the stars lined up Daniel Day came called me and my son was going through these things and I remember my son was having having brain surgery and an episode of the good doctor came on. And my we were at this AIRBNB and we're watching this episode and it was just a scene between Freddie and this young kid and we both just started crying and we sit Schwantz like turn it off. Turn it off and cut to about six months later I was here on the set and so I started watching the shows after not being able to watch any anything past that one scene and I realize is that the show became full circle with with our lives because my son was misdiagnosed and he was treated for Chemo with chemotherapy for a year which he shouldn't have been Dan and this show reflected my wife's spirit and eventually I got on this bullet train with her of trying to find. Think outside the box and find what was wrong with him and when I actually started watching episodes of the show after I'd been cast I realized like that's what I wanted in doctor and that's what I love about. This show is that it's a show. It's one of the few shows on television. That's a show of hope because that's as a parent of a patient of a young child like that's the only thing you have to hold onto and true that kids grow out of this was that It's not that they grow out of it. But there's like one of my heroes who who who who who took care of my son He was A. He's a famous surgeon and he basically reconstructed the blood vessel system in his head with a double bypass brain surgery. And you know it's just that's what this show so is in and it's I am reminded of it weekly when I drive on a lot that there's magic here the word miracle comes to minded like it. I think that's great. I'm glad you talked about this. I I want people to know and it's just as a whole it's a disease that gets mistaken for a lot of things and so it's it's called Moya Moya and all right. Let's get to the show before I rented all right. What am I in for this season with your character because I really like Dr Park? You know Dr Park. He's you know we left last season. He's having you know finding that path half of balancing life and work which which a lot of us do as parents and I think this season you know we could possibly as we continue that in terms of like how does he deal with it. And how does he balance a professional life with his family life but the but the fund Things that we've been kind of exploring. The first couple of episodes is kind of his new budding relationship with Sean and developing you know not a mentor but just two buddies and it's kind of like homo not to loneliest guys on the show. It's it's almost like the two the two people that are very quiet with their internal feelings. And it's it's he started seeing sprinkles of it in in the episodes where they start sharing are the Alex Park wants to share. The only person he feels safe in really sharing with is is Sean. I think when you talk about this show there is clearly a love for being here and you you know based on that one time watching the show. That was too difficult. How I don't know the the white we're but how maybe on spying for people who are tuning in people tune into the show and when it's over they don't necessarily forget it some of the episodes last asked and some of the themes or the illnesses that you guys tackle people know someone were you know? There's a there's a connects next people. That's the word connection. Yes and that's to me is is anybody who watches this show is someone you know. Eventually we will all be part of this system in some way or another whether it's kids whether it's her mom or dad or US individually and I think that the cool thing about this show is you know Freddie Moore's Moore's character along with the other residents and doctors you know it's always about what if or how do we or it's not this. Could it be that you and I found having been in that system in the real world that is not always the case and and I love that. This show teaches people to go. Oh no question it questioning question. Your best advocate. Where your your son or daughter's best advocate another doctor continuing to make rounds as Morgan resnick? She's played by Fiona Guberman. I'm conflicted sometimes about Dr Morgan. Because for instance in the first episode of the new season she is so happy be when someone has cancer. And you don't know how to react to that moment. Well the clarify. She's not so without that they've cancer cancer but she's so happy that it's opportunity for her to get to do her for Solo surgery and it is a very curable cancer. So it's not you know and here's another thing. You promised me a disaster about a first date you let this character loves the. She's kind of like the tornado in the the room. Sometimes isn't she well things up but she also is gifted is that gifted with I say this in with all the love and the world as my mother got older in life there was a filter that disappeared and she just said whatever it was she was thinking. Morgan has that filter at her young. I mean it's amazing. I would like that filter. No filter Morgan. It is unapologetic in many areas. Including just speaking what she what she thinks she's she's very opinionated. And the thing about Morgan is. She likes offer opinion in her advice. And she's not doing it to be mean but she's just not wasting any energy on being Mace Ace. So it's sometimes it's the harsh truth and people don't always enjoy enjoy the delivery the Russian producers of the show of decided that the residents. We're going to get more opportunity this season. So that's going to be great for your character. Yeah it's been amazing. Morgan is much bigger part of this season. And it's really cool like there's so many different sides Morgan. That people are going to get to see She's very competitive stuff. That happens and and you see more for vulnerability more of the things and she's going through in her own life and then also the different ways in which she helps other people patients and her co workers. It's a really cool journey to be on and I'm loving it win we've seen have Morgan can be when it's all stripped down. And when she needs someone in her life is they're going to be someone this season that you think Morgan will be spending more time with or being more open up with. You definitely see some of that. I would say a lot of Morgan's organs journey. This season is how she grows through helping other people and how how she gets affected by Being there for her co workers in her patients and during times. It's it's really cool. The thing about the good doctor is that it's always asking questions. It's always bringing gop controversial or as you know issues or things that people are GonNa talk about and they really try hard to present both sides fairly and and equally on the show and not necessarily tell you which is right or wrong but just to really start a discussion about topics and it school to the apart about and sometimes you agree with your character stance and sometimes you definitely do not but you know that's the beauty of the show and its storytelling is it gets people thinking and talking talking and one last. TV Doctor. I spoke with in Vancouver Hill Harper. WHOSE ALTER EGO DR Marcus Andrews? I think when we see the first episode of the new season what we see is a man who is listening. And I think that's really important because your character's been so used to doling thing it out taking it in is pretty powerful stuff. Yeah it is and woods. And that's what's exciting about playing the character because getting into a rhythm of of playing a character where everything is is him telling people what they're doing wrong and trying to put up walls and barriers to be kind of impenetrable. But you know someone who's in a leadership role that's able to maybe take some self analysis. Wouldn't that be great in this world. We live in today that our leaders would be able to look in the mirror and actually do some salve analyzing. That's what happens with this character and I think that's an interesting thing to play. I've I've asked people you get a sense. It's of what the new season will be for us because I watched one episode and I'm laughing. I'm intrigued and I think three times. I'm trying not to have tears tears in my eyes in a room full of women. Well he to me. What makes the show brilliant? And what makes the writing. The best on television is the fact act that it can simultaneously be touching be funny but also be really smart and it. It's really interesting because usually folks folks default into one category. Oh it's very just melodrama or we're just going to be funny or we're just going to try to hammer you over the head with with message. Our show is able to ride a beautiful wave. And that's all due to to David shore and the writing staff and and that's why it's wonderful to be able to play it because because every time you pick up an episode and every time you you don't know exactly what you're going to do not just one-dimensional we're GONNA see. More of the personal life of Dr Melendez does and and Christina Chang. We're going to see more of the personal life of the good doctor. Are we going to see more of your personal life. If you know what I I always wonder how come last season. My wife never walked down the stairs of our big beautiful house. We saw we did so. Hopefully we'll see more this season email. I am the character on the show. That is happily married. I wear I don't have on right now because I just came out of surgery so I don't wear my wedding ring in surgery patient. Lose the patient lift. Things are going well so But usually I have a wedding ring on and and hopefully we'll see The other half of this ring a lot to see them. I really enjoyed my time with the cast. Cast the good doctor. I always do and it was great to be in Vancouver on the set seeing what it really looks like behind the scenes. And I'll tell you it's very impressive off and you can keep up with all that's happening on the good doctor. Monday nights on A._B._C.. For off the Red Carpet George Pinocchio. Thanks for being here by.

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Stars of hit movie 'Frozen 2' talk return to hit Disney franchise

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Stars of hit movie 'Frozen 2' talk return to hit Disney franchise

"This is off the Red Carpet with George Pinocchio sponsored by Mercedes Benz. Hi everyone and welcome to another edition of off the red red carpet. I'm George Pinocchio and today we're talking about frozen to which audiences seemed to have really warmed to after it's big debut at the box office. You know this is a sequel. We knew was going to happen some day and now frozen. Who is finally here? And it's exceeded all expectations in that debut including including setting several new records at the box office. Adina Menzel. Kristen Bell returned to their roles of Sisters Elsa and ANA and just like I did back in twenty thirteen. I sat down with them again to talk about what have become iconic roles. You use the word proud when you associated it yourself with this movie. Tell me why there's that sense of pride Because I of I think that it's really cool that it's two female leads in the film and that it's done really well commercially with that. Being the thing and and then on top top of that of course it just all the m self empowerment kind of themes and themes about sort of owning. What makes you really unique in this world and and sort of not apologizing for that and then talking about different kinds of love them we've ever seen like you said it so well the other day when and I've just been repeating it but ah that most movies are about romantic love and that's important and Super Fun to watch? You want people to fall in love in front of you but not a lot of movies have discovered have talked about self flovent or familial love and we put that at the forefront of the first movie I say we would. It's obviously very collective. But that's where the pride comes from. 'cause I personally early believe if you don't have self love or familial love romantic. Love might not be in your future. Those are sort of the first two steps so to put that on on the front burner for kids to digest in a way that simple for them Was it just makes railing part of that. I think maybe it's because it's six years later but am I correct in saying and assuming that you're just more bad ass this time out. I way more when you ride that worse. I ride awards God. And she summons huge giant Boulder Monster People takes them on on and tells them to run after her so she can win on a spoiler. It's the cool thing is the the what we do in. This movie is what people can accomplish if they look into familial love and self love early on in their life if you fill those cups inside you and you don't open yourself up to the world when you're eighteen and you leave your nest empty if you don't if you're not empty because you kind of know who you are and you've given yourself some tough love and and you can rely on people around you. You can accomplish anything. You have a much better center of gravity and self esteem and I think you watch these girls. They still still struggle but there some girls with some self esteem. Also the feeling of I know with my younger sister and I would do it for you just that that. Unconditional love and that loyalty not and that's that territorial ness that sends a flight. I'm going to protect you. No matter what nobody my mom used to always say nobody with my kids everywhere and now I find I have always saying that feeling like I will do anything that you're okay beautiful when it's kids 'cause I have two girls and my favorite thing in the world. What is when they both turn against me? Because I'll be reprimanding like the older one will do something silly and I'll reprimand and I'm like do need to take time out and the little one will come up go. Don't talk up to my sister and I'm like I it's funny I wanNA laugh but I'm also like overjoyed that they're defending each other. I'm almost out of time. We talked about in your crazy schedule last night but in the midst of all of this. You've got a Christmas album. You need to be promoted to a holiday album actually she. There's this great original song on it that I wrote my friend Jonas Miron and it's It's it's called at this table and we were writing. We're writing the song and it's sort of about inclusivity and acceptance and forgiveness and family and And it felt like really great holiday song that we needed and at this time and then and with frozen coming out and us being snow queens and just having a really celebratory kind of season ahead and it just felt like the right thing to do so in the studio I cut a bunch more holiday. Get this album because this is the album. You'll want to damn to Christmas this year. Do it that's my sister. The two other stars return for the Sequel Josh Gad who Voices Olaf and Jonathan Groff as Kristoff. I have never seen somebody tried to propose more movies. I know right yeah. I guess that's what happens when you spend your entire life living in the mountains and then you're only just now getting used to human interaction as opposed to reindeer interaction and then it's love and then it's proposal and it's a lot of pressure. Is it fair to ask you if you like this one more or is it a different kind of like or love it is aids. It's like asking what your favorite child is is Will you have one. I yes I do you you you love them both equally for different reasons I think that the first one is it's just such a tremendous love letter to The love between siblings in particular sisters And I think that the second one one takes that theme and just expanded into a way that it not only makes this film stand out on its own accord but makes the first one that much deeper deeper but for me. There's so many themes in this one that I think are even richer are more challenging for my character. Personally I love the growth. Both of him going from sort of toddler to more fully fledged child. Were starting to ask questions in have these existential sort of Thoughts and I just think that the creative team is so brilliant at working from the inside out so that the sequel is really about these characters. It's Abou how the journey that they each need to go on in order to not only grapple with what's going to happen in their futures but come to terms with their past. I said I don't know if we're going to get this clip but I'm going to ask you. We talked about last night. You have this fantastic song. Look it looks. There's slight smile. They say that they told you we're going to give it to you. Didn't believe them you've got yeah. Last night at the premiere was like did the Song Week. The kind I don't know I don't Unbeliev- that it's real. I feel incredibly lucky to have sung a song by by being Kristen Lopez their incredible incredible songwriters. I also got got to sit down with the Oscar. Winning songwriting team of Bobby. Lopez and Kristen Anderson Lopez. This is one interview I will not soon forget. I mean come on. How many times do people actually sing to you? I still need to tell you after talking to him again today. Jonathan groff off is in some kind of disbelief that his song is included in this. We're so excited for the world to hear what Jonathan has done. It's so beautiful and I'm really hoping that it empowers people everywhere including men to really feel their feelings in a big big way. You're sitting in front of a piano at home. Are you teaching your kids how to play. I wish they would learn from me but they are taking lessons with with licensed professionals nationals. You couldn't pull rink. They won't listen to it wasn't it wasn't good. I mean imagine if your father bother with sitting over over you like nope back at them. Is there one song in this movie that you love more than any other there. Are you know they're all our little children and we've been talking about into the unknown because it's such a great way to sort of summarize and introduce Sir the movie to people because it's all about Elsa dealing with this call We really started with the characters. Elsa isn't where she is meant to be when when when she is the queen of Arundel. She's she she has. There's a call and it's leading her out of her comfort zone and in a way that's sort of what life is about it's about Taking risks of chicken. Fine where you need to go. So Dina sings it in the movie in the credits performed by disco and in this room by you. Yeah Sir. Original always sixteen bars. Where do you WANNA start adventure? Certain of what I'm thinking I'm into the into So can you guys ever go to a party at someone's house when there's a piano and not play mm-hmm I always force bobby to sit down those. I think it's the coolest magic that he can create to sit down and and play almost any song you've ever. I heard of social advantages of being a piano geek. I'm almost out of time right one minute. Good that's more than I thought I had. I usually get the timing a little bit better than that so excited. Let's just talk about the power of these women now at one they grown up. They have more power. We see it onscreen. Did you when you were doing these songs. Give them more power in the words and in the music it all comes from story and it all comes comes from. WHO's really in charge of this story? And that's Jennifer Lee Who is I just? She's taught me so much about finding your your own power at the table and speaking up and speaking from your point of view not someone else's And so she we work with her. We create the story and it just comes out in the song when you're writing for strong women that they are going to sing strong big songs doing. Are you taking requests today. Chancer I I need to intro this piece. So how about something like. Here's George Per Nacchio with our story okay. And there are some other veterans returning behind the scenes directors Chris Buck and generally and producer. Peter del Vecchio I have this fascination with this horse and when you told me last night that it took fifty people to make that right I am absolutely absolutely may be underestimating. I want just want to know more about the horse. It's in the clips certainly when we Throughout that challenge how do you create a horse. that's not only made of water but we need to see it under water. It required such collaboration between animators affects. Artists isn't lighters and our visual development department. We weren't quite. They weren't quite sure how they would achieve it but we're thrilled with the results. There were a lot of bubble conversations about Bubbles I wanna be said last night also which I really appreciated was that you have a vision and you're not sure that you can necessarily accomplish implicit but you give it to the people who think they might be able to and while it happens right. They're the ones that the ones we'll throw out these challenges all the time and we don't even think we always ask us as possible and they're like we think so and then they come away with stuff that is way beyond what we could ever amassed this forms. A great thing is they could see the story developing and it always comes from story and so they get excited about that and they want to deliver. I think that you are in a situation. Now you've seen this at the dolby theater with all those children walking and you know how the audience is responding and you know what happens when this goes on and what goes through your body chemically shiels happen I I mean I think what's so fascinating is this is the moment I just said it's like the week before giving birth where you're anxious and nervous and you are so excited everything means so much and to see it yet. Beginnings start its way out to the world that Before opening in here audiences is just builds that anticipation so it's thrilling. It's bittersweet it's everything all at once. Is it fair to ask irresistibly. If which child you like better as I say you like this one better or it's a different kind of love. I think it's very different. Kind of the first one was just the beginnings of creating these characters together they had truly been formed in this way they were sort of formed already but it was taking them deeper and pushing them taper. So it's like you love your five five-year-old for who they are but you also love your teenager or maybe not as much older teenager there there is something about when the first one came out and everyone loved it. It did so well people wanted it instantly and I think you are actually Lebron smart to wait because the anticipation has been building now for baggers nervous. It's always the story. I mean we always WANNA approach it from the point of view from the character's point of view and we don't really some movie until we feel confident and ready for. We don't even released it until we know we have the story that we wanNA tell. I probably have time for one more question. It's about women so it's going to the one that sounds sexist. Now that it's I I think it's too bad. s women were girls once upon a time but there is so much more strength in both of them they are both her roic that it really is a pleasure to watch play out. That means a lot. I think I think what I love about both of these women as they surprised us when you say when the characters tell you where they need to go and you listen to them it. It's something very special and what I was blown away by what they would willing to do for each other and for the kingdom for their families but when when faced with things even on their own what they what they're capable of. I think things that we never imagined and so I really hope these two can really Help US anyone look at the courage. They have within even when they're not sure they have it and power perseverance. There are two newcomers to the team for froze into who I also had the pleasure of sitting down with to Chat Sterling K.. Brown plays Mateusz. The leader of a group of soldiers and Evan Rachel Wood lends her voice is to do now the mother of Elsa and Ana I love that you are in essence a Disney Geek. Yeah I'm in essence. This one right here may be more of a Geek than I am but I I am that guy who loves the storytelling that animation allows right and I think Disney does has it better than anybody else because they're animation has always been top notch but the stories are the ones that keep pulling you back time and time again. It's the difference between why people will see something once and they're like fun and why you keep watching something you don't Chris the billion dollars the first frozen because it just looks pretty it is because the story resonates with you in such a deep way that you watch it over and over again something new away from a to absolutely the lion king is is probably my number one and the older I've gotten you relate to all the different versions of Simba and then move Fossa and then the one that's running away in the kid the I mean it's just like all of it like you always take something different away you might be right about so when he's got real so this might be a good question. I know that when sterling got this Gig he basically jumped up and down on his bed with his wife. Yeah something like that to celebrate. What did you do? Ah for the hair and makeup trailer on a film I was doing and I'm sitting there trying to get ready and I found out and I start beefing and it. It kind of threw a wrench in the hall getting ready process that day. But I couldn't believe it because I auditioned for it. I thought it went really well but you never know and then I didn't hear anything for a month and a half so you just you just think man maybe went away and you just get this phone call out of the blue that your dreams have all come. I liked that you had your tapie daughter there last night to watch your movie. Yeah and so. You're they're seeing you. Kids is but in talking to the two of you. I think you will see it with adult is am orm kids. Is I think so. I think that you never lose that feeling of who you were when you first experienced it right and then you just evolve over time as as well and so both perspectives exist at the same time like all the silly laughs are laughs that laugh at every every single thing and then like the deeper messages also have residents for me as an adult I talked with you about your character lacks night. I should probably talk to you about yours. Because it's your both characters right so yeah you you do love this person you play. I really do and it's funny. My partner looked man was like yeah. Isn't it weird. They always cast their characters kind of books do you do you see how much you're like her as. Oh yeah actually. It's really weird. Can you put it that way they do do that. I took it as a huge compliment. You see kind of. She's like the bridge between on Elsa You see where the spunky of honor comes from and sort of this. This mystery that Elsa has the mother sort of encompass all those things and she's so fiercely sleep protective of her daughters that she's willing to give the ultimate sacrifice and she has her own mysteries that they need to uncover and she's left breadcrumbs for her children and to discover themselves through the past. So I'm giving this so I will just end comment that I didn't expect this to go as deep as it did. It took us to a new place and as a moviegoer I appreciate that. Thank you Georgians. All this talent in one movie and that's not the whole cast also so in this film. Alfred Molina Martha Plumpton Jason. Ritter Jeremy Sisto Alan to Dick and many more this film is rated. PG It runs about an hour and forty minutes or so and it is in theaters. Now thanks for joining me for another addition of off the red carpet. Hope you enjoy frozen into if you haven't seen it yet if you have you can always write to me on twitter at A._B._C.. Seven George thanks for joining us by.

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Time Capsule Episode 106

Sci-Fi Talk Time Capsule

21:11 min | 1 year ago

Time Capsule Episode 106

"Visit Fifteen. Fateh Lane and I've appeared on sanctuary and I'm playing. The theory. What. I'm Ashley. Eckstein also known as the voice of a so Kettani from Star Wars? The clone wars. Colin Cunningham also known as Major Davis s she one stargate s you, WanNa should say I'm Robert J third. You go award winning author of Flash Forward. Matt you rattling co-writer of bad kids Gooda, I trust Pico co-creator. Haden's of three and you're listening to I talk. Hi, welcome to this edition of sci-fi. Talk Time, capsule, my episode one Oh six on my magazine style interview podcast is always on your host. Tony Tomato Nice to have you out there. As and let's hear a sample from the first episode of on the Red Carpet with a conversation I had with Oscar winner. Adrien Brody about the imagination awards at Tribeca Film Festival Hi, are you Adrienne Greater. What does this mean personally for you to be involved with something like? Well, it's it's. It's a great opportunity because I'm very grateful for You know. My Path and and You know here with my mom and she's a a big inspiration to me. As encouraged Mike Creativity and I'm very lucky to have found. Acting at a young age because I think when we're young, our imagination. Flourishes and as we become mature and. Responsible and kind of. Oppressed bid by society and the pressures of being an adult. We we, we have less space for that. And what I love about this. Is that it's it's. It's a chance of what I was saying earlier this evening if you do not. Even submit a proposal, but if you go online, and you look at it and use new start spending a little bit of time thinking creatively, that's already beneficial. It's already. Meaningful. And you know. The more that we have. That kind of thing or where people are encouraged to be creative and. Pain for whatever it is they want to do. it's a better world. Besides Mr Brody, there's also ellen page is going to be on here. Talking about her new video game. Max Brooks Talk. zombies vs Vampires and also from Eureka is Colin Ferguson. Additionally, there's also clancy Brown talking lex Luther, and that's all on the first episode of on the Red Carpet. It's available as part of my premium service. It's only one ninety nine a month. Go to talk dot, com, and click on the premium button for more information. Hi, this is Matt Sloan. From, Chad vader and you're listening to science by talk on spotlight today I have some conversations with the powerful Monday block on the sci-fi Channel, and I from warehouse thirteen, or saw Ruben rubenesque alison, scaglione and Aaron Ashmore Hi guys loving the season so far I'm looking forward to episode number two I just have an opinion question for all of you Do you think the show has evolved? Maybe it was. it was like the two, maybe two or three leads, and now is more of an ensemble piece interesting. what do you? What do you think also? I gotTa Say I. Think it was an impossible right out of the gate. The family dynamic has changed introduced to people, and and said goodbye to others but But I think from from the beginning from the inception of. Least Jack Kennedy. Taking Helm It's always been about the group. Certainly Pete and Mike are are the focus. There are a number one two on the billboard, but But you. Couldn't. Do what they do. They couldn't exist without the support of already without the thrall of Mrs Frederick Without the assistance of of Claudia. And Steve? And honestly I think that's why the fans keep coming back because we're a family. Yeah I think it's evolved only in the sense that not as a conception, but as as the writers had more and more fun, working with the INS and outs of the real, the dynamic relationships, the comic potential dramatic potential of how relationships work use only so much you can do with the sexual tension. Between you know the kind of intuitive goofy brave soul that is pete and the kind of nerdy. By the book. Brave and Very smart character that has mica the. There's only so much you can do just the two of them without adding another elements and they knew it right away. And, they were cast because of the potential comic relationship. Chemistry between them. It already existed, but when once everybody else got added, it was exponential. It was way more than the summer. It's part and and I think that Alison's right. When Jack Wants Jack was on board. He always saw this. No matter who is on a billboard whatever they're doing to PR at. We always feel were part of Ansaldo. We always have operated that way and. And I think I. Don't know if it's you know you might have a better sense of it, but I know it goes back and forth you know sometimes for example. There is a a nora so that it's coming up. Yeah, where certainly that story was is a story that involves Pete and Mike of Absolutely, and we are doing another part of the story that has to do with the whole other plot. That is Jinxi and cloudy and I. And our our story is fun and really interesting, but that is an example of of like two leading actors, getting to play a noir episode in black and white, but that you know that happens occasionally, and then sometimes the tables turned in what they're writing about. And sometimes we all go together, so there aren't any rules throws afternoon. It's not it doesn't operate the author shows do the same similar things and I and we're. We benefit from the fact that The the Jack. Insists that in the writing that it stays ensemble? I think it would have been a mistake. If it sort of taken the show just to be you know like you have your your characters, and then everybody else is just way in the background and I think that that's yeah like you said if that's the direction that they go, Jack was like no, no, this is a family, obviously what? The the show is really about and really represents but again you know I. think that that's just decision making the that people made You know whether it be Jock, or or the the networks have be like. Yeah, let's make it a family and you can't have. a family with just focusing on. You know to to family members, so I think that that's one of the strong point, but again if if if everything didn't play so well together, maybe they would have to focus on one versus the other but everybody. fills fills in plays their part so well that it works so well together so again. Maybe that's why they're It's possible to really make it unsolved. Cool, and just quickly so I. Don't watch anything live these days, so for example I can actually watch and an Ashmore doubleheader watch an episode of the following followed by warehouse thirteen on my TV. Timing that. That he that he was on before me because we were warehouse crushed him if if that. Was Lucky that week. That's that's that's on several. Your Ashmore W one. Episode I know that they're talking about it into going into student vibe. Jinx getting twinned. Rich! Funny I think I. Think one one day. That'd be very funny. I, think I think that'd be good all right? Thank you so much. Guys keep up the great word. Thank you up next I joined. Defiance actors once again, Jamie Murray and Tony Kern on a call recently. Hi, Tony and Jamie great to talk to you again after seeing you both at a great to front. I. Have a question about your relationship on the show and one thing, I've noticed so far. she obviously manipulates him a little bit. Do you think it's for both of you? Do you think he knows he's being manipulated? And do you think he'd ever do something about? So yeah, it's a good good question. I. Interesting Question Jamie because I. Don't think anybody's ever asked that question I i. I thought about it myself I've thought of thought about In my life I know. I know sometimes when people are working now. And you. Find it depends how they do. and. If you're good I'll just go with it Really. He's like she. You know there's sometimes moments you know being seen with Tony and Tony's like such a in the moment organic actor and you know it was a kind of sometimes we would have these things and they were so charged because it was like. You know it was almost like a lot of pain. Sometimes it was it was. It was so violent child, but kind of it didn't kick off, you know. Because because I think that he kind of he kind of new, and he kind of appreciated it, but it was kind of the thing that they didn't talk about because. I think that's interesting. especially the you know an episode one and the boss and she starts seeing like you know. I have to get some Chongo's and I'm going to kill you know it's it's pretty intense. Stuff I'M NOT GONNA kill heading, but I'm going to kill us. WHO FAMILY YOU KNOW! It's like you know what I'm going to wake up in the middle of the night and. On and on his ass, you know. So He's in the Boston and you know as AS Roma does. She gently puts the idea in his head. The you know, maybe we should marry these kids off, and then we can take over the nines and I think with with the definitely with talk. Anybody really if someone gives you an ideal someone gives you their opinion that just happens to be you know more informed or are a great idea. Idea I think that I think the detox. He I think he miles stomach I. think he definitely knows in the back of his main to the there is there is there is this cultural class system which realistically? He hasn't power off. He was never of she. You know with her husband from the past have been you know he'd been telling her what to do, but no. He knows that she's smart. But obviously it's. Jimmy said before it's the UNSAID. She's not going to come up and say Oh for God's sake. They talk don't do that do this. She doesn't stop does in very suggestive. very, you know. Very manipulative very cut lakeway, but she's manipulating daytime. For the Bachelor of of of the of the two of them of the. Drive to the toll. He's No. She's not manipulating him. And detrimental way we'll see yet anyway. But she and I think they type. subconsciously he he knows she's smart and and I think he likes the way. She approaches him with her with her ideas. And sometimes the right episodes where they talk about. being refugees and things to do with Alec and and isn't as manipulative. It's more you know you see stomma come for shale and she just can't deal with the attacks of the subtle approach if you will from. Sometimes Donald just put Sahfou down and goes. Listen data. Get a grip here or and we're. GonNa lose what we've got so Yeah, I think I think he knows what she's doing and I think he. He respects on and for for that, but but at the same time I think has to. She still has to walk. She'll stat in many ways, which is which is Which is unfortunate, but I think that's what makes makes it the two of them them exhaust of the the dynamic between them quite compelling. I think at the beginning. You know when you first meet They tag he. He's. He listens to how much more and then as the season progresses I think maybe. He, he does He enjoys some some of some success. In in kind of the social climbing that that both kind of trying to achieve even from the beginning, and I think the actually her. Control over him He become. More. Wouldn't you say her knee? He become more Confident in his abilities and he. He doesn't need her council so much, yeah! I think that's because the because he's getting these good ideas, but he doesn't. Actually I think. He has to realize that these good ideas. Are Coming from not just talk her ideology and our philosophy about things both sue. It's about. It's calming him down and also giving him good ideas, but also I think the tax achieved nothing stomas moving on and to. Is always good to power there on of the blunt instrument and the volatility, which is required, not telling the fines, but. That can get you so far I. Think Donna I think Jimmy I. Think the stomas of. She's fame shooting attack into into someone. She's educating them I think I think she I. Think She's educating them. They usually when stomach councils data it's for. The, long, time. Good as. Many, you know man. For his to fill their long-term brations whereas. The difference between them is day. Talk will have. Good ideas how to win something in the moment, but sometimes the repercussions of those choices you know not. Win? Into yeah, it's like winning the battle losing the war, if you. Yeah so he will make good decisions to win in that moment, but what he's actually winning is. The. Satisfaction of his own ego. Now it's It's very much about as. Yeah needs that fix and not moment the so I must fix. Things she's not a non. She's about almost vampiric in her. have Orissa kind of materialistic. and. Climbing operation bought. She never needs to take credit. She never needs to be seen as the victor, and she never needs to be right, whereas he needs all those things already badly and not about she plays on in order to. Kind of achieve a main, but there is a real shift in power season goes on, and and they both end up in in in kind of territory. Of New Territory, and they have to kind of find a new way of dealing with each of them a the thing that interesting. Jimmy says of. The of the on some heat heroin. If you will, she's the. She's the store. Cool You know she, does she. She yeah. She said she may have egotistical. Say too, but I like the daytime she she's many allies the quiet. She's the client. She's the she's the. She's the silent silence of them Stu Kosov Stealth like Sefton. The comes through the grass and takes his pre dawn, and then you turn around and. She's gone. You know she's. She's Su she. She's smart tells she's probably arguably the small. Alien or Patterson in town go news. She would be like if she was if she if she did if she was if she was if she did good things for the community which I'm sure, stamina will I think that the she's she's she's just who characters are very quiet. Dan I think one. D hopefully we'll maybe will never happen the data can. Maybe relate to each other and and maybe a more a more so. Up. With an equality of Prue, you don't know so it was. Yeah? You know I think that would be interesting but right. No I think the dynamic between the two of them. Has Good, so many possibilities. This things in the next few episodes that the show which I oversee account talk about but. Stomach does things that maybe detente, those newell the. On, and. You know you know know if you're if you're better off your husband the away. Stop doing things that you don't know that they're doing. And then you find about them. You know that's You know that could definitely still the talk. Will. From a different perspective. Again. Exactly. From a viewer standpoint if if I were. The each of their bad sides I would fear her more because I mean I could see I can see him coming a mile away, but her I wouldn't always be watching my back, and that's really what makes her scare. You T real ut with silverback coming through the jungle the. Sneak in the garage. To that way I'm watching. I'm watching the twitter feed here and everything. We'll scenes coming up. I. The silent, stealthy one, probably the smartest tone you go. Down there on the tweets darling ECON economy hide from it. Booed. Rude I felt this was between us. That's cool. Okay, all right great to talk to you guys again. I'm really digging to. Speak to you. Thank you so much fun. Take care all right, thank you. bye-bye and look for sci-fi powerful Monday starting at nine, o'clock with defiance, followed by warehouse thirteen at ten PM. What really strikes me about defiance which I think is super cool and really is going to affect how entertainment is done cross platform the future. It's neat that individual game. There was a prequel where it shows them. Essentially completing mission or a transaction getting into their car and driving off, and then the TV series picks up on the first episode, and they're both in the car, and it's like one seamless storyline, but Tobon two different platforms. That's powerful stuff. Hopefully they'll be more shows like that in the future. Surely hope this is not the last one. Until the very next I fi- talked time capsule. This is Tony to lotto thanks so much for listening because it Joseph Lachey former executive, producer and writer on strike eight St. one strike Atlanta's stargate universe, presently writer on dark matter called book series hopefully a television series, the not too distant future talking to you on.

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How to Roll Out the Red Carpet for Your Customers

Duct Tape Marketing

20:30 min | 2 years ago

How to Roll Out the Red Carpet for Your Customers

"Hello. And welcome to another episode of the duct tape marketing podcast. This is John Jansen. My guess today is Donna cutting. She is the founder and CEO of red carpet learning systems, and she's also the author of a book we are going to talk about today called five hundred and one ways to roll out the red carpet for your customers. So Donna, thanks for joining me. Hey, john. It's really great to be here. Thanks for having me. So five hundred one ways don't you think it'd be great? If he will just did one thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely for sure, you know. It's funny to me how people pick up on that five hundred one ways in it. Find out amusing. But what I'm trying to do is give people a NAS action ideas tangible ideas that they can actually take right from the book and implement into their company, or at least being inspired by some of these ideas. So that they can raise the bar in the service in their organization as thorough a lot of books that have a lot of theory in them in certainly place for theory and strategy. But I think there's also a real need for these books that just give me a couple ideas. A couple of things I can go out and do and and see how I could do that in my business. And so that's one of the things that really attracted me to to want to have this conversation today. Yeah. That's actually, right. And you'll see you'll know in the book there's actually a chapter called get red carpet ready in that's because. So that theory is important genitive really important to have a strong basis if you truly want to give you know consistently. Excellent service, your customers, you gotta be looking at who you're hiring and how you're encouraging them in all of that. But, you know, today's person mid level manager or entrepreneur doesn't necessarily have time to be as creative as they want. So why not jump from look at what's other people are doing and go from there before we get to debut are in Asheville North Carolina's era ban on a just visited with my wife, and we canoed the north broad Broadmoor or the north broad right through built more. And and when on the blue Blue Ridge Parkway and fearful beautiful country. Yeah. Do the French broad river. Is that what you're yes? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful beautiful area. Oh, I'm sorry. I missed you. When I'm glad you had a good time. So we're a lot of companies think in terms of. Apartments marketing sales and service. And I really think it's probably always been true. But I really think today when there's really nowhere to hide. I mean, if you have bad service, we're probably going to see a YouTube channel dedicated to it at some point. And so, you know, I've come to believe that that there really is no room for these departments anymore that that that service, quite frankly needs to run through the entire sort of outcome of where the customer doesn't. Oh, yeah. Customer services so much more than a department. It really is the. It will for one thing. There's a direct link between sales and marketing in service, especially today because it's the experience that you're giving your customer they have more choices in louder voices than ever before. And so regardless of how great yourselves in marketing is you can lose that customer the minute. They walk in the door. If you're if the experience they're getting is not, you know, fantastic. They have so many other places to go into customer experience is really part of that whole marketing and sales as well. So because you sell training, but has a cost associated to it and certainly doing customer service. Well, has a cost associated with it. How do you help people make the leap to it? Not it being an investment rather than a cost so to speak. So so what's the value? How do you measure the value of good shrimps? I mean, I think we all know A. You know, pissed off customary as bad thing. But how do you measure that doing the basics? Right. Yeah. Well, I think it's an it varies from, you know, a company to company, but it's really understanding the lifetime value of your customer. And so understanding that we're not just talking about one transaction here, but how many transactions with they could could they potentially do with you in a year's time in five years time, you know, in the lifetime of that customer. And I would even add to that. How many new customers could they bring to you? Because they're having such great experience. I don't really see that in the typical measurements of lifetime value. But I think that belongs there as well. Greg point, I think that we all know people that you run into him and every company hopefully, every company has one or two of them the person that is just they're just nurturing their jus-. Just how can we serve you? Ed just wired that way, but I suspect that you do a fair amount of teaching people that are not wired that way is it possible. Yeah. Well, first of all, you do have to have a heart to serve people to a certain extent. And I think when it when it comes to the customer experience different making sure that you have the right people in the right roles is very important because depending on the position, you know, it has more important some positions that you have the people who are the warm fuzzy gonna make people feel good and then in other positions on it may be more important that they have the technical piece. They know that job really really, well, but they just have to have the ability to be friendly caring to the customer. So having said that can you teach empathy. I don't know that you can I think that that comes with. You know, how they grew up and whether they have an empathetic heart. However, I have noticed is that there are there are people out there in organizations that have empathy and they have a heart to serve, but the the leadership has not necessarily been really great about defining. What that service experience looks like ends. And and giving them the tools and the training that they need in order to deliver on that, you know, service experience people Latin people say, oh, well, just common sense will not necessarily. If you've got a young person who grew up in a home, where they may have a I've met, you know, many people they will want very warm, caring heart, but they didn't grow up learning about the important I contact in smiling and giving a good handshake. And you know, caring phrases in all. The things that you can't teach if somebody has an open heart to seabed do that makes sense. Yeah. Absolutely. And I think that that you kinda hammer home a belief that I have is that. Service. Good service, red carpet service is really kind of culture. And so I think orgnisations that it seems to run throughout its its they hire for it. I mean, that's a that's a qualification, you know, for for the job is to maybe measure that idea of empathy. But then they also empower folks I was on a flight this week southwest magazine always has stories about their people doing good, and we all know companies that really I think tend to empower their employees to do things and the this. There was a layover that the person wasn't changing planes, but they laid over ironically my hometown Kansas City, and the person was on their son really wanted to royals baseball hat, but they just didn't have time to get off the plane flight attendant heard it went in boroughs baseball shop came back out gave it to him. In course, you know, than than than the person wrote a letter, you know, talking about great. And I think that that that fight attendant is very is empowered to make that kind of thing and rewarded for doing that kind of of action. And I think that that that has to run really deep doesn't it gently does it. It is getting back to that whole chapter getting red carpet ready that really is all about culture, you know, the question that's asked me a lot is how do you get an hourly employee who may be has never received red carpet service to yet? Were you have to model it for them, by the way that you're treating them and empowering them and encouraging that kind of behavior? So with a great story. I love that. So one of the things that I think a lot of companies they get okay 'cause Mercer's gray. We gotta do something to relieve be over the top. And it comes out sort of robotic. I think the best customer service is something like that story I told, but it's also just very it's often, very personalized. And I think that's even trickier, isn't it? Yeah. I think it is also. So I wanted to say I don't necessarily think that it has to be over the top to me, there are three areas of customer experience to pay attention to one is that technical piece that is you know, what they're what the customer is buying for the service or product that they're purchasing that it works. The way they expect it to work, you know, all of the logistical things that go along with delivering that product in service, and that, you know, you want obviously want that to be proficient. The next piece is warmth in hospitality. So how are you delivering it? Do you have a team of people who have that empathy Fetig heart in our warm and hospitable? Really those two things are rock-solid. People are going to feel like they have a great customer experience. If it's consistent so meeting every employee is delivering that to every customer at every opportunity, you know, every single time or close to it. And then the third piece would be that. Wow. Or I the movie moments, you know, those moments you remember in one repeat from the movies making those kinds of moments for your customer. But but to be honest, the first to have to be rock solid. But before that over the top, wow, really makes a difference. And I think you're right. That has to come on Antic that comes from just allow your employees to come up with their own ideas about how the that you're not. I'm not sure you really saying this. But I think you make a good point in some cases, the bar is not very hot ride just getting the basics. Right. Returning phone calls doing things that people expect or unfortunately, have come not to expect that that kind of part the basics, you know, are so important in in many companies miss that even that's exactly right. It is the pricing to me when I asked my audiences. You know, tell me about the best service you ever received. How many times people will just tell me a story about how? How you know they walked into a hotel or departments. Right. Everybody was friendly in smiling in their bending over backwards to do what they can for you in. I, you know, I think that's just what customer service should be never mind. You know, the over the top stuff, but that's what people are wowed by today. Because unfortunately, we're not get not receiving that as often as could be one of my favorite. And I'm not sure this is customer services, the certainly marketing in my mind, but one of my favorite things is when so many surprises me when they do something. I didn't expect a buy orders shoes from a running store and got some some power bars and socks thrown in there. And you know that that had retargeting factor. You're probably about the tenth person on air that I've told his story to and I think those I think there's almost a product role for that type of thing. Oh, definitely. And I love you know, that reminds me of. Retro trying to remember the name of the company one of the apples in the book is is a retrofits, and they are a company that sells a sports where I think, I think arm sorry. Recco fit compression year. And they cells are compression for cyclists and triathletes runners, what are the things that? She does is that she she came up with the idea of just they gave out that crackerjack box in remembering how exciting it was as a child to get that crackerjack box. And while the caramel corn were, you know, delicious. That's not really what we're about. What we're about the free stuff right below prize in. So she does exactly what you were just talking about Susan Walton the owner of the company she'll just put something of three little gifts that people are expecting in every single box. And that's what people get excited about. You know, that's a little extra eleven south road. Actually had a book of you, probably remember called free prize inside the the really kinda talked about that whole concept. Yeah. Give you a moment to kinda define your your. Red carpet Fraser, how do you go about making people feel like stars? And should you be? Should you be looking at it as that that over the top kind of role at the red carpet approach? Well to me ultimately, red carpet service is about making that person in front of you right now. So whether they're physically in front of you on the other end of the phone or even the other end of an Email feel like the most important percent in the room or the most important person in that transaction. And so it really does just start with being one hundred percent presence there for them. Make people feel like you, even if you heard this is the challenging part, even if you heard this question, you know, fifty million times from every customer. Delivery service in a way that I would consider the the allusion of that first time. So like in the theater, we have people do the same dance steps the same speech the same lines twenty million times penny on how long that show goes on in yet for every audience. It's a new show. It's a new. So really looking at it that way, this finding the fun things that you can do to really make them say. Wow. You know, I didn't expect that. So I wonder about this before we started with a book five hundred one ways, I'm going to ask you to pick maybe four or five of your favorite ones that that you can tell little vignettes about just to give people a sense of the abstracts of each of these kind of ways sure accidentally while start with ruby receptionists. So they are in a company I actually did business with for many many years and start with them because there's such a great example of those three areas that I talked about they are a voice answering service, but so much more than that. They are we referred to them endearingly as call over be. And when you know when they would pick up my phone messages. The technically it went perfectly ninety nine. Point nine percent of the time. You know, they would get my message. They've transient right to the person needed to go to a might team or we get a voicemail and follow up and it just worked perfectly. If it didn't work perfectly because they were having software issues or something. They were communicating with us every ten minutes. It was back up and running was mazing. So they had that he's really perfect. And then the second piece is I never had to worry about the receptionist that was answering the phone may have many many people working for them. But they were all upbeat friendly. You know, I certainly secret shopped myself my customers would come up talk about what friendly people had working for me. It was just amazing may have those two pieces rock-solid, but then they had the wow in this goes back. John your whole piece of empowering employees because every person who works for ruby. Receptionists is empowered to. To make practice while wisdom is what they call it. But make these supplies into light moments for their customers. So for instance, when I had my dog snowball one time, they sent me a little package of dog treats for snowball a little frame with a picture on it that looked kind of like snowball, and they would just do little things like this on a regular basis. I know other people who use them as well in. We're always comparing the little gifts that ruby receptionists send us out of the bliss. There's such a great example of those three areas of service, and then one that I was thinking of when you were talking about your airplane. The southwest airline example is this gentleman in who worked in Tampa airport. And I love this one this little boy left his beautiful Hobbs, you know, his precious doll if you remember the old Calvin Hof. So yellow tiger any named him Hobbs elected at the airport and one of the employee's picked it up. And of course, they let him know. Absolutely. You can come pick it up Hobbes's here. He's fine. But in the meantime, they took all kinds of pictures of of, you know, doing things at the airport working in the control room, you know, working here working in the flying the plane all of these things, and they put it together in a little albums that when the parents came in. They actually picked up Hobbs not only do they get the doll. They got this album of memories that Hobbes shared just that's a great example, again of employees just taking responsibility in Blau ING while the custody. I hear you say that. And after reading many of the the tips in or the ways in in your book. I think a lot of ways the underlying thread or theme is fun. I think a lot of the companies that do this stuff. It's because they're having a good time. And so they look for ways to to bring a little bit of fun enjoy in to people's lives, regardless of what they're selling in. That might correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that might be if you're going to nail sort of one emotion that might be now, I think you are. Absolutely. You've just hit the nail on the head the. The the. Share with you the village coffeehouse in in Boulder, Colorado, it if you are there for the first time in somebody gets wind of it. You've been a dubbed a village virgin. And that they announced that there's a virgin in the house in everybody applauds, you know, in everyone's kind of in on the fun ever all the customers that have been there before in. Then of course, there's ways for you to earn prizes. If you bring in new virgins to the coffee house. So it's definitely a mug getting tool, but it's also just like have like you said having a great time with your customers in for your customers. Resume with Donna cutting is the founder and CEO of red carpet learning systems, and she's also the author of a book five hundred and one ways to roll out the red carpet for your customers. Thanks for joining us. And hopefully, we'll see you out there on the road. Thanks for having me.

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Time Capsule Episode 122

Sci-Fi Talk Time Capsule

21:50 min | 1 year ago

Time Capsule Episode 122

"Fifteen Fateh Lane and I've appeared on sanctuary and I'm playing. The theory. Won't. I'm Ashley Eckstein also known as the voice of a so Kettani from Star Wars, the clone wars. Cunningham also known as Major Davis s one stargate s you WanNa should say I'm Robert J third. You go award winning author of Flash Forward. Matt, you Rattling Co writer of bad kid Gooda I trust Pico, co-creator Haden's of three, and you're listening to I talk. Hi! Welcome to this addition of sci-fi, Talk Time Capsule, my episode, one twenty, two as always. My magazine style interview podcast hosted by me, Tony Tomato haven returns to the sci-fi channel. This September thirteenth at San Diego Comic con on the Red Carpet. I had a chance to speak to Eric. Balfour and also Lucas Bryant of the Haven Party number two that tended, and let's hear from both gentlemen about what's coming up this season well. Do. You still has his. Power. and. We are going to get to meet brother this year. Played by tomorrow, from Dexter. He's fantastic I A, love inches this year. There's a lot happening for Duke this year. Right Duke meets a girl. Any also falls and Lucas might be. I know what to tell you. It's pretty It's. A little bit. I don't know what to say. I get letters from emails from producers. People Higher Up. Tell me that he'd have a meeting with me. About the future show things I shouldn't should and shouldn't do as professionals. One, but I will tell you this. Naked me. Me Naked. Is that on haven season for I can't tell you that, but I will say me they internet. Just full everything I mean. I decided that if we were GONNA do this. We'd better just to. Right and fully completely. So. I won't give you any storyline by will tell you that I enact a. State of nudity. To assist. It's as it's ridiculous. I don't know what this world is come to. Once again. Haven comes back on September thirteenth. Just about two weeks. Wow, it's hard to believe. And a series started shooting. Their second season is defiance and here's part of my conversation round table setting with Kevin Murphy. Who is the show runner? It's an enormous relief. We we actually. The Post. Production is's so. Intense on this particular show, because of all the visual effects in the virtual environment that we were actually three weeks into breaking stories four season two before we actually delivered the finale, because sci-fi was was kind enough to give us. Eight weeks. Of Writers on the clock before the officially show. It's amazing luxury because let's. Get ahead and it lets us. We discover something cool. In episode six, we can go back and retrofitted back into the beginning, or we find an interesting character who becomes a villain. Really cool later down the line we can go back and give them a bit part in the first couple of episodes of the season and make them feel like they're an integrated part of town. Let's say it's so much so much cooler than the process for network television. which you always feel like you're behind feel like you're late. You always felt like you failed, and every day is triage. surprised. What we how? We. We should make the show about the action in their science fiction ideas high-concept. It's it's on SCI FI. But I'm really more interested in what happens between the moments like. In the pilot we've showed the bulge battle, but on a typical episode I'm more interested in the stress that happens the night before the voltage battle I'm worried about what people think when they might be a regular counts, people were going and they might die. They may not see what happens. Tomorrow I and I and I I what happens after the for example? Episode to episode was all about what happened. After the volts battle with the one guy that ran away. And what happens when you're when you're branded, Kenny Rogers on the coward county. How does that? Dealt with by his culture, and what happened to the fact that for the good of his family history album self to be ripped apart on a shaming and tortured, because otherwise standard will be ostracized and the. Really, poignant ultimate sacrifice nets. That I think that the reason i. Enjoy dealing with more than than than punching because other people. Can do punching and. And blowing stuff up better than we can. The network budget what we did better than anyone else is explore the strange his our world, and what it's like if you're a you're. Putting the strange place that you've never seen before, because that's the one thing I show has Seifi, is an interesting place to work because what you're talking about you. Have you feel any show I? Think it would be disingenuous to say that you don't feel that pressure, but it is different on Scifi because. Our last episode. Has robbed. Before the first episode begins. So as a result, your show's finished before the idea that going in and doing emergency surgery or changing your direction or writing the show and some kind of different manner. None of that is possible because you've delivered all of your episodes, and that's because the long lead time, and because we write a script so far. Because! We have the plan we had. It takes months and months to do the alien heads, and all that kind of stuff, and there's a huge production. Time. So. Locked. sci-fi kind kinda commits the beginning of what it's going to be, and then we all agree to live with it so the big stations. About what are we going to change? What's GONNA be different for season two, but now that we decided that setup. We're off to the races and everybody's everybody's feeling that we're getting. We're going to do that. The pressure's through the best version of what it is was set out to. You know, but we're. We're all lockstep is to what the ultimate goals are. We know how the season's going to end. and that's Rick Freeing because I've been on network shows where? You'll focus group air episodes. The ratings aren't what you want, then they suddenly replacing cast members, the retooling mucking around, and they operate out of fear. and. Operate out of fear. What character you interested? Okay Jay talk. He had a good run. He had a great sixty seconds. Own. He. He He stabbed her harsh on his inaugural night. on election night and He's no longer mayor where he is. That is That is up for debate. We will learn that in season premiere, but in the meantime we're learn the game in between seasons, the day tack has gone. As Gone Awol stomma is now in San Francisco having having conversations about what? About. What's what's going on with the crime? Lords out there and learn to Alex is. Is Now the head of the family defiance returns and twenty fourteen, and from the round tables at San Diego Comic Con I also have drew Roy. WHO's how Mason had quite a year kind of going through some major transformations. I gotTa tell you. Thank you very much man. When? You looked in the mirror. My goodness. Yeah, now. That was when I read our. Little nervous I was like wow, man. These these mirrors scenes. They can be. We know what they can be. So I definitely want to show up. And do my best in between Greg even who was directing that episode of felt like I was in good hands to be able to do what I wanted to do. Make Creepy and fun and interesting as great to be able to do something. Different than we've seen how do in any of these seasons? Gopher! especially. Loved. Really. Michael. Really. Want an article I. I love every second of it. I almost missed that evil character. Would mind if paying back around even after that sixth hour. When I read the seventh episode, like maybe he still maybe. Maybe, they just haven't told me yet. That'd be kind of fun. I don't think it's the case. This was a while soon. Wheels came off in. Every direction. was. It was a wild shooting I don't think we've ever had a season on the show. That was just smooth. on top of the fact that you're elements shooting that creates technical problems. Sometimes it makes it cold, but all those things really add to the show and we're soaking wet. It sucks, but it looks great. When you're watching it, you can see your breath and It's all those little things that kind of. Sprinkled in there and make it real. And helps you also lose. That comfortability. You're living in a post apocalyptic world. When you're wet and cold and hungry comes across, and it just gives that little bit grip. Falling skies is also now in front of the cameras shooting their next season as well. Revolution has some changes coming up, and that's producing end including rockne s o'bannon, who now joins the show's ranks truly wildly excited to be part of it. I was a fan of the show last year. I was in the Maelstrom of creating jobs mile last year, and which don't recommend that schools be not do that. Do not try that at home but there. This the only network show that I. A point of watch you know 'cause. I just love I. Just had no expectation to be part of it. had never met before Fan, but and so when the opportunity came up I met with him, and he talked about what he was going to do next see second season. I got wildly excited so fan, so I started. Enviable position of being a fan of the show are just like jump on the show like you know, be part of it so. It's really I mean for me. It's going into. The second season is just really torquing everything up and it's it's. I always pictured the show and I. Really. Got A. Diving into that the second season s a real mythic tale. Of mythic Saga of essentially mankind's future. We've been we go along here. We are with all your electronics in a world that were incredibly dependent. On on on our gadgets and things in our lives and I think also the initial fascination with the show is. What would it be like if that were not the case taking that and say okay, what it's done is it's given mankind an opportunity that we would never take it on our own took. Cut a move into. Another iteration to such evolve beyond. Our power electronic our independence, and what's that were? How do we come out of that? Where where do we come out of that and so I got a picture of the characters in the show as The kind of epic heroes of of mankind's future, so I picture that are characters will get one hundred years from one of the series takes place, there will be statues erected to some of them, and then they'll be cautionary books written about others because they're an and you don't know why watch the show. Who's going to be who who's WHO's going to be the statues and who's going to be the ones that they are warned about and so at the at the at the essence watching the. The founders of America for example. If you're actually there to see them, you see them kind of warts and all so you're seeing people that are going to have the be considered the heroes. That set in play the mankind's future that you're seeing them in a way that again you see them in with all their their you know frozen ponds, and all that so passing all of a sudden staffer. was, we, should be are big fans of the show like game of thrones, so that kind of that notion of of a big kind of mythic saga Is this show that I think. King. Can Do really well. You could have become that. Biggest show never TV last year. And Show. It's like. Better last year it's got big ideas, which is big. Big ideas got big emotion. It's got big spectacle on spotlight today we have tim. Russ renegades new project that he's working along with some producers to get off the ground. It's interesting. It's kind of build as a different kind of trek. Not The usual kind what's needed is something they're doing that I've always wanted trek to do is to combine generations besides Tim Russ's to vox. You'll see Admiral Chekhov as well. Let's hear from Tim and his plans for Star Trek renegades. Here really taking star Trek in a little bit of I mean is familiar, but also kind of going different direction and I think that's a bold step. Pledge you to kind of go in that direction. We wanted to do something that was either parallel head of the last theory. Or just voyageur faces new. Time timeline goes You didn't WanNa to Prequel, so we want something. That's a place years ahead. Let's. Just entirely STORE INC, entirely different look and feel and change. As well, we just wanted to do something different. Because you're again, you know gene roddenberry is known for technical stepping outside the box. or Taking chances he's known for pushing the envelope. As far as trying things that haven't been done, and they continued that tradition, so we're gonNA also do that for when we want to go about it. You know is to try to do something that you know we haven't seen. yet in terms of Characters and story storylines kind of stuff and Because otherwise we'll just we'll be. We'll be basically just showing shames. You know the same folks. Chain kinds of stories and this face, trying to trying to shake it up by the way you know, it's just we hashing what more got to want something that would would be at least Peach Jury Austin fans. They'll check it out just to see where the change. To See. What is this version of star? Trek is for star to involve also a Lotta. Time has passed since the last episode of Voyager so things are different now to and you kind of have to. Kinda evolve with the audience a little bit to. The audience will have the classic. Everybody's Char back for Classic Trek folks watching this. People who grew up on voyager each nine that their generation. They won't have people who are younger. we're not watch trick at all before. Guess what? You know watching something like this. You know we're not sure. You know how far can go work. At the end of the day people who are already with Star Trek ones. Wash this show there, anything else now. Fair onto them. The features that are doing reimbursed so this is the only thing out there that's going to be. a hand up where we left off. The only ones somebody else's doing that. Everybody else died recreating. What's already been done or they're doing something? That's a prequel and we're doing something that that that are time line. Is nobody else you're gone and nobody else is doing. And that's that's what that's what the idea and you know. The producers coming Song Writers and and I was in total agreement. You Know My name was whatever it is. Let's do different you know whatever it is. Let's let's try this use this instead of that. because. We haven't seen that before. You know and and you know. Let's put the edge on Schlitz You know make this character a little different than what we you know, even a little different than what we were member of us, you know. He's sort of scattered in our. We're not one cohesive unit. You know that used to be as far as. For example of Voyager crew or Things like that. We're dealing with you. Know Part of starfleet section thirty one, which is like you know blackhawks. This is basically a black OPS project. In Star Trek Willie happened gelled with that. Jail yet, so that's what we're doing on the next morning. Like to come back to to of after all this time, you know, he's not a difficult to. Not Difficult to get to feel. Pretty easy to get through, so you know it's just a matter of you know it's. It's kind of nostalgia in that sense I. As far as myself directing. Being in it, you know it's it's kind of A. Distraction because have to wear two hats and I. Don't like wearing hats on there. Some people don't mind director. In contracts I'm not a big fan of doing that. I'd rather do one or the other you know. They put me in. You know harder story now. have to order. Make this happen Walters charactered. Myself are the ones who are sort of heading up. From a production standpoint, you've already started shooting th the first episode. Is that right now? Essentially this essentially, you're going to be a pilot. Facing right South We have not started shooting so. We were trying to get it done and in the middle of summer, but just couldn't there was there. We couldn't get everybody together. You know schedule wise to make it happen to have a large chest, so we needed to. We needed to push until October. And and so now and all sorts of racing more money because we needed. The extra bread for everything from questions to post production. Is your things a little bit more? We don't have any cushion had an cushion case we had cost. Overruns averaged about fifteen percent chipperfield production. You'll run about fifteen percents when you get in there starting. Surf shooting the strange or you know they're expensive and they come up. You know or hassles and probably Nancy go an extra day and they need or Something else and. Whatever maybe? We needed to have a cushion cushion. Issuers, you're privately financing projects. Go to the sun and Sierra There you know. We need an extra ten grand. Because! You've got somebody to at least draw very end because they've already spent that. Much money WANNA finish it chew if it's you know this project really only got what works in in. You know roller that as you're in trouble. So, we need to have a cushion. Financial just to make sure who whom and. How are you approaching the The special effects are. Do you have like somebody in mind? I was think I now. You have somebody that's going to handle it for you. Yeah, we do have crisscrossing hosts. We have one Michael. Struck me. That are doing. Special effects were waiting to go with that. That's. You know that's not an. issue. That's going to play out. We we have on. Or there's a lot of physical physical combat and chased. Typically Joel Hat? Truck chases to reverse a lot more. You, know sites or pink like that electron and things like that. This is a little bit more. On the physical chart. This show, so that's a little different than what we've seen before also nuts from being. Somewhat of a challenge for us to make best journal, stuff look really. Good cool and also say. Of course and as far as sets, are you using practical sense and green screen, or maybe a combo of both were using practical with you have one. I think we have one. For Swing doing which is A. Very different JELLYBEANS factually. Relation not affected mining operation, so you do have screen setup, which will have heart set pieces of? Aren't we do have everything else for building. As hard sets and we're using also existing shifts after. We're GONNA redress, so we've got a combination Wall Street. and. That's episode one twenty two of time capsule. Thanks so much for listening have a very safe Labor Day weekend in the US. This is Tony Tomato take. Care Hi this is Brian Abraham, the writer of robocop prime directors and the forthcoming stonehenge apocalypse and you're listening to sci fi talk.

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Hallea Jones - Locke and Key, Facing Rejection, Making Your Own Path - Dreamer Talks 008

Dreamer Talks

1:24:23 hr | 11 months ago

Hallea Jones - Locke and Key, Facing Rejection, Making Your Own Path - Dreamer Talks 008

"Four. Hello everyone and welcome to dreamer talks. My name , I'm your host. It is my job on this podcast to interview dreamers from many different walks of life and pick their brain about different techniques and skills that could help us in our lives. For today's. We have a very good friend of mine from. High. School Holy Jones Polio will go a little bit more into detail on her background on how she started getting into acting and has gone to where she is today. Her latest work is playing Eden, Hawkins in Netflix, original lock and key. During the past couple of months, she has been producing music with her older brother in their cottage due to the current crisis. So please enjoy this interview with the Jones. There is a lot of good content in here. So enjoy. Everyone's another episode of. Today. With a very close friend. Jones. So. He's Doing a long distance podcast over here and so hull eon I went to high school together we went to Early Hague slash Claude Watson and you. went to. Yeah, I'm definitely going to get into this. Is a public school in Canada and they have this arts program which in the school, which is another school called Aguas. And I, started in the Claude Watson program got into the programming great nine went through high school as the drama major and this brings me to Actually Leah. I think men get great nine lead someday after school just. Chilling with my friends, you're with your friends than which became friends. was like you're hanging out with the second. And Max and Kenzi in all those guys and I started hanging out with them. I don't know how all kind of started just going out for lunch all the time and yeah. And I was like one of those kids who jumped around from friend group friend group like I had my girlfriends that I had like you guys and then I had some other groups of friends from my middle school and I didn't get into the Claude Watson program because I just wasn't a good student. And you needed to have really good marks in the cloud program but I. Didn't care enough I was playing. Then like it and so I didn't get into the program, but I still hung out with a lot of qualities. And someone like in grade twelve was like wait you're not in club Watson Lake where have you been? In No? Yeah, yeah I'm. Still. I know I I think. I've heard it in other interviews. You've done about your the point you've you've gotten to. Talk about your, you know you're not being accepted into the program and I think. I. Actually Salute you for the dedication and motivation that you had shown towards yourself to actually pursue the craft of acting and singing even though you got told from a, you know a lead. Whatever school right the no and Yeah I really am I want you to talk to that point because I think a lot of listeners viewers can really learn a lot from even getting that no from school parents friends whatever may be and yet you what have you done to tell yourself to keep going and? Even lessons like yeah So I, have horrible self discipline I'm just GonNa say that I just don't have my self discipline, but I think I've got to this point where I was like I've never been a big academic I. Love Learning I love Educating Myself I. Love Breeding. But I just don't like the idea of like here's this information in a textbook that you probably will never think of ever in your life memorize it, regurgitate it, put it down on Tasnim. We're going to tell you if you're not enough and if you can go on to do something with your life like that was just like my. Clothes like I'm GonNa do something else. But when it came to grade twelve, I remember being like really broken down by the whole system of Claude Watson because I just felt like. Because I wasn't in it, I couldn't do it and it wasn't everyone in the program who may feel that way but I definitely felt like every time addition for something there was something standing between me and the potential you know being a part of things because I wasn't a Claudy. So when it came to grade twelve like. I knew I speak openly about this I knew I didn't have the best grades to get into university or whatnot, and I also just didn't want to go to university just I knew I wouldn't be happy and I didn't want to take the risk of going into something where I would be more than I already was like that was already a time in my life. I wasn't GonNa make it worse and something that's not talked about our gap years. They're not talked about enough at all, which is ridiculous my five we both did the. got. A great twelve? About what university they're going to really. Gab. I. Literally Hide I remember to people explicitly coming up to my face and just being like so like you know like the chances of getting anywhere in life is is not as high without a university degree. and. Maybe for some people. But for me as a creative in somebody who's like really loves creating you know going out there and trying to like I also knew that I could go to university if I wanted to at some point like when it grades weren't bound by like figure it out but it was it was a really difficult time of Lake just sticking to what I wanted to do and being okay with it and I wasn't all the time. I. Remember like. A week before university started up and I wasn't planning on going anywhere like I applied to share it in for the theater program or something. and. I got in last minute and I'm glad I didn't because I I to travel though into to Sydney Australia and then it wasn't really until I got back. From Australia that I really got into seriously like taking acting seriously but I mean I. I have a hard time talking about these things because it is a success story in my perspective, you know like. I got very lucky. But Yeah if INC the basis of it was just like sticking to my passions in what I felt like I really wanted to pursue and not letting anybody else's doubts of me. Let myself doubt myself like I wasn't going to let that happen. So it took awhile but. Here I. I WANNA, share an anecdote, I think i. told you this one before but when we agreed twelve there's the university fair every year in Canada. Where it's convention center, kind of like a comic con for universities and I wonder with my mom, there were four escalators going upwards and they're all going up and there's a huge line in front of two escalators and the other two escalators are completely empty. And we're standing in line and on I look at my mom and I just go back. Everyone was. Just standing in line. Even, though the other two escalators going up and we just went to the other escalators and went up true story I know it sounds made up but it legit happened. And I think that was also a point where I was like totally needed to take Doing University Crazy and there was no reason for those escalators to be. There was no sign. There is nothing it was literally just that everyone was lined up on the. On the other. That's it's easy. Is Crazy. Yeah. I couldn't believe it when I was there but I think you know talking to that point is. With the education system I know you're not always talked about how schools a little messed up with the grading and putting on a number two individuals. What has been your approach to the Self Education and self development I know the gap your had to do with it but I don't know if you have any other things to share that may be. Inspiring and push people in in some good directions. You don't have to go to an institution in order to educate yourself. There are so many avenues education online. In the way of like watching videos reading just talking to people I, find that. The biggest thing for me is I love to know a little about a law so that I can talk to somebody who knows a lot about the little bit I know. So I can get kind of like the sparks snow. Of What's Interesting and important to know about certain topics and of course, like there are certain things she definitely like dive into and whatnot. But if you go to a party or a dinner or something like that and just have. Fun Conversation about everything and anything and Open to the idea that you don't know everything that there there's so much to learn about in the world and. that there's like. An it's okay to make mistakes and have. You know an underdeveloped perspective of the world that you're open to developing it and learning different way I think that's the biggest thing for me that. Kind of gets me when it comes to the whole university process like I, always think it like. University everybody's given in life. Get into it right now. Is it like everybody in life is given this box Where they collect and they put it in their box they learn this over here and they put it in their box that they put in their box. If you have five hundred people in a lecture hall. For the entirety of the year learning this course schedule, they're basically given another box to put in their box that all other five hundred people have. And that's not to say that those people can't learn different perspectives but they're learning majority of the same stuff and then when they get that little paper at the end, says I did it they all have the same box. And Of course when it comes to our privileges in the way that we're we grow up in our access to things in whatnot. Some people can go further with boxes. Some people don't ever use those boxes like I know so many people who went to school in they're just like. I don't know what I'm doing with my life. I always believe that like we need to. Find. Different avenues of. Creating substance to put in our boxes from different areas of the world different experiences, different perspectives, because that's what creates the most interesting ways of living and for me like. I have like little snippets from different areas and I'm still learning and I don't have like a degree it on have this big chunk of. Analytical Information in my brain about finances like wish like I have a little bit I have to but. For me to like always be searching out different avenues of retrieving different educational pieces throughout the world because like if I sit there and my boxes empty I'm Tom like I'm not gonNa Stay Dom or like you know at. where I am. So I don't know I just think like you don't have to go to an institution in order to to become educated and have intelligence. There's a lot of people who do really well On tests but the out on the real world and they're like, I don't know how to apply it. Right? Like doesn't thing finding ways of applying information. Yeah. It's having that street-smart is also very important. Exactly Yeah I think. I really love what you mentioned trying different things in testing different avenues because you don't really if you follow the standard. Path. You'll just be following not really leading in your life. Takes us back to the stairs. Exactly a lot of people do that and you know what I've also seen education is kind of a factory line. You know. Get came from. That's where the system. Industrial Revolution yet because they wanted to make people be able to do things that they didn't want to do in, sit in, have to do it and up to standard, and of course, like some people will disagree with that saying like education whatever and I'm just like. It's live. This is a big part of it and I get that. There are definitely very important parts of institutionalized education that many people do need and it's apply full disclosure. Definitely. Good good things to it. Yeah. Asking it. Yeah. I'm not bashing school schools important. Yes. But is it the only way to ever become intelligent or six This world I don't think zoo. Yes. So right right. Well. Okay. Okay. Well from that From the not being able to get on a certain things at Earl Haig. Because you aren't a claudy unlike to make the transition so that I. KINDA WANNA make that transition of. Where you are now and How it's been to. Be were where you've gotten. The weird. God. If I could go back to. Haig. Until Little Julia, that this is where she would be. In, like five six years in finding six. I would laugh like I feel like my younger self belay. Cool because like you know how everyone's asking always ask what do you think you see yourself in five years I probably would have been way more ballsy and been like the Oscars but that's not how life works. Five years from now I don't know maybe that's a possibility I gotta work my butt off but. Yes, you weren't the Oscars. Red Carpet. Yeah. So I had my own version of the Oscars I. Guess there were no awards, but there is definitely a red carpet so. After probe bureaus will dislike still breakdown quickly. So I graduated from high? School. I worked for six months and then for six months I went to Sydney Australia where I did like a little you know school will even backup further grade eleven to grade twelve that summer I went to La to do acting thing because in in grade. Eleven. Degrassi came to our school and that huge addition where there was like six hundred people auditioned for this role and I was standing in line for this Degrassi audition and one person from the Claude Watson. Program these drama program came up to me and said, what are you doing in the line? And I was like auditioning. Like. But I was like I was like, I'm just I'm additioning like it's an open like I'm just GonNa try it anyway long story short. Long Story. Short I was one of four people who ended up getting called back for the grassy audition and I remember going into the DEGRASSI audition and Louis. Mirror the casting director I did my audition and I've been modeling since I was like twelve. Looking at the camera because the cameras, my friend and So I kept looking at the camera, she says, I really love you for this role, but I can't hire you because you don't have any on camera training, go get training and come back to me. and. So I was like, okay and my mom and I both saw that as kind of like okay if. Watson's not taking me seriously but these professionals did and my mom was like, okay I'm going to I think I'm down to take a chance on this. So that summer I like I looked up all these different acting camps and whatnot. And I went out to Los Angeles to this place called. So KAFFA where it was like there were filmmakers and actors, dancers, photographers like all these different people. And I was in the acting program for two weeks and I met like the greatest lover but. The the acting teacher came up to my Mama, the end of it for a final performance he said whatever you do make sure that your daughter is innocent industry either in front of the camera or behind the camera, and so my mom was like, okay. So I went into grade twelve did my thing didn't really like cert- professionally acting I did a lot of courses in classes and stuff like after like once a week kind of things. still wasn't getting accepted into any of the drama things like no plays a central like a student run sound of music or something like. anyways. So I graduated from High School I went worked at did six months in Australia and I came back and I went in I got an agent and. League. One of the first editions is on the way and they're like looking for someone older go to the audition. Anyway, I once the audition for working moms, which is a tronto show. And they put the audition, which is like look this is your lock that doesn't happen and I was like, okay, like this is this is cool like I thought it was way easier than this. This is cool. and. Yeah Long Story. Short I booked a few productions and. then. The. Big One was booking, locking key and so I remember going into the opposition for walking key and like I have probably done easy over like a hundred and fifty auditions at or like a hundred something auditions. Prior to lock and key. And that's just how the industry works. You do a hundred and you book one like if you lucky like that kind of thing but I had done like working moms and the boys. And I think this other film and just like a few like one liner small things and then booking locking key I, remember going into the ocean and. fumbling my lines over and over again like. I thought I wasn't GonNa Booker, but it was Bringing that different like I play a bitch in the show just point blank and I made the CAST I may laugh. So I win, it was I got the role. I was jumping around river excited about getting the role. We started filming we filmed for about five six months. I started this kind of like a small care builds up into like. Pretty like you know they're. They're and season's GONNA be crazy with confirmed for a second season, which is like huge. AND THE AD ON A. Toby. The anecdote because you had already, you read all the scripts for the final episode. You told me last time we spoke of how you reacted in your living room and you can too late wife your mom. Yes so I'm not gonNA give any spoilers anyone hasn't watched it but. So, there's. Three episodes in season that I have like very defining scenes. You've watched it right? Leg there yet. So there's like some of my friends house like I can't talk do but at them but like. There was. One scene in the last episode where I got the last script 'cause they, they send them out incrementally filming and I got the last scripts and. Sitting in my mom's room and reading through it. And I got to my parts and I just. Wailed I'd just like was just jumping. I was like this is so absurd eating like I was just going crazy and my mom's like Whitson tell me tell me tell me I wanNA know I wanNA know and I was like no. Is Of course I'm not gonNa tell her like what was a huge thing that? and. This is the point in the episode in the PODCAST. Paused you bench lock and key, and then you can continue from your back. Yeah. Exactly. then you understand but it was it was so cool because like originally i. When I when I books, the are the the the show I remember talking to my agent and I was like, Oh, well, this is good because they had told me something about like more you book casting directors see that you're booking more and then they'll bring you in more and it was like Oh this is good like casting directors will see that I'm booking and my like it was just silent on the other side of the phone I mean just like know who this is like in a different stratosphere. That was like what because I didn't realize like rocking key is already a huge franchise in itself in the comic book world and like Joe Hill who wrote it Is. Stephen King's son. So there's like there's there's they there So I remember telling my friend that I had booked shows like advocate show locking key and he was like you and you're like John. And ran over got this huge box set of all comic books. Read it. was like okay. So my character is not in the actual books, but it's kind of like a dog nation of two characters in there and. Yes. So in February I went to Los Angeles. I brought my mom and we went to the premier I got to walk the red carpet. At the Egyptian theatre which is just down the street from the Chinese theater where the Oscars take place. And it was just the coolest experience ever and I know this sounds weird. But I felt at home. It was. The strangest thing I've felt I didn't. The only nerves I felt were like on the car ride over, and then as soon as I stepped out, I was like. It was it was crazy I felt so comfortable and just in my element and. I feel like, I've been. Training and preparing for this my whole life in the weird way and. Get. It was it was crazy seeing my facebook big screen I was like this is you know I'm glad I stuck to my guns. I'm glad stuck to to what I wanted to do like really flow through that because I would've never known what I could might potentials if I had just done what everyone else expected me to do and that that would have been I mean I would have never known but that would have been devastating you know I would have been watching locking key and someone else would have been playing edens so. We may have not even watched it. I mean I. was I was saying to if I stray like. I don't watch a lot of Netflix series, but I do enjoy locking key like I. Felt like unbiased opinion it was a really good. I felt really good about it. I felt like they did a really good job as a Canadian production like. Bad Ass. It's GONNA get mugged bad ass Mutt my family enjoyed it. That's. Yeah. Yeah Wow. That's really awesome I mean I'm definitely a proud happy friend that you've. Made it to where you've. You've made it and excited to see where it goes from here. I think season is GonNa bring you some good opportunities either for the continuation of the show or even for other things right For sure that's It's just like a pandemic and Music I actually wanted to make that transition. You we're all kind of now in this. Apocalyptic. World. Net. That's a little extreme I. Think. It's more apocalypse who? Is. More pop the luck what. Kids speaking. More. To Olympic. Really, starting. Apar-. Apocalyptic. So while died. Does look. Into the tongue twisters. Park Elliptic. Then it was back in February I was like driving around La like not caring in February and then march it was like, okay, you want. Those crazy. Right yes. So what have you What was your initial two week? Thing when you realize. Know, if it could have been longer or less whatever it was for you of realizing I need to figure shit out even if this is GonNa last longer or was your transition. how long can the story? Okay So my my uncle does a lot of reading of like a lot of medical journals and he has a lot of like really deep dive reading and he knew about this back in January and he'd been like reading a lot into it and was kind of like starting to get worried and. I'm just saying like everyone like we bought this doesn't look good on us. So we brought an anti masks like back in January just to have them in the house just in case and he also had them because he does a lot of like sawdust work and all its best does And so. When I went to La like it wasn't really thought too much like it was still there, but it was more so big across seas wasn't over here as much wasn't being talked about. So it was very carefree in February January and February were leg invest months of my life basically and then I went to La. got. Back. And there's this thing called the big fan jam. Told you about the Bacon Jim I. Think you know you mentioned it. If you could kind of talk about it. Yeah. Except is this this big thing in Toronto that a group of my brother is musician brother musician. While English is not happening. Now it's this big lake. Basically, there's a bar downtown with like a stage in my brother's friends are like really talented musicians I've always looked up to and I only really got back into music two years ago and they started this jam this every Monday night jam. Wear you have a husband that starts off and people can go up in switch out like the Drummer Guitar Guitarist. vocalist and stuff like that. So I became obsessed with this like it was just like my baby like I. I didn't know what day of the week it was but I knew Monday was four days away like. I was like I'm ready And so when I got back from La, there was one there was one fan jam lost and then it shut down and I remember before I went to L. A. Getting. So nervous about missing out on the fan jam and all these things and when I got back, I was like, oh. Good. I didn't miss out on it, but it was the last one and then it just world just shut down. And I remember like everyone just being like, well, it was kinda getting to the point where I think we were all exhausted ourselves we out until five in the morning like every Monday, and then that would lead into. Tuesdays, and Wednesdays will not so. There was the fan jam. On the Monday. And then. Mid Week I think it was. A Wednesday. There was like this little private con- concert we had with There's a band called busty in the base. that. Is Love them and Aban that my brothers in called the pick brothers. and. They did a little concert just like for pre show leading up to the Friday when Busta in the base had a huge show at Danforth, the Danforth Music Hall which is like the biggest indeed venue in Toronto I would say and they sold it out. It was huge like hundreds of people and stuff like that, and then it shut like the world is shut down like four days later and or like a week later or something and. It was really interesting to go from. One extreme to the next because at one point you're in this crowded venue with hundreds of people. To not even like like being worried to go to the grocery store and wiping down everything not cleaning close to anybody fearing that every single person you see has it like all this crazy stuff. And I feel for everybody or for many people the first two weeks where the absolute hardest the first two weeks the first month where the hardest because. It was one extreme to the next and people just aren't used to. Not being allowed to do what they're usually doing, and then you think of the people who aren't going to work and like some people were going to work and having the same routine for thirty plus years like the same routine, and then it just came to a grinding halt. In creatures of habit. Exactly, I mean not me but. Like for me like. I just what like not much change in my life because I didn't have like a part time job like I didn't have something where like I had to show up for work, you didn't have that cases. No it was like Monday nights were the only consistent thing, and then like sometimes at eleven thirty at night I get a call from my friend at a studio and he'd be like, Hey, the studios open WANNA come work for a bit and I would just go and stay until four in the morning or late I would go and do a photo shoot early in the like it didn't matter like my life just over the place. And then to just completely stop and I think the craziest thing for me like I was living right in downtown like college and Bathurst. and. I could go on my roof and I remember going in sitting on my roof and it just being dead silent. In downtown Toronto, not a car not a honk like just birds and like sirens somewhere far the distance like it was. The weirdest thing to have experienced Edge felt it was so strange and I mean for the first week or so. I think like we were. kind of like debating gathering in small crowds at the studio we all work at. but then it really got to a point where he like, no, we were going to completely cut this off and we need to go and do that, and it's been that way for about four months. And I think they're starting to open things up again, which I think is the best idea. But I'm up north with my family. So I'm not going to be have starting to have foam. Oh, that's the nice thing about that time. There was no fear of missing out because there was nothing to miss out on. Yeah I. Think it was the best. Time for people to get in tune with. What they want, what they like get creative start kind of. Figuring what they liked to do in their spare time at home in. I guarantee you. There's a lot of artists and creative people that are gonNA come out of this crisis within a year or two. They discovered the like I dunno painting clay woodworking whatever creative thing that they got into, and now they're going to pursue it because they saw how much they enjoyed it. So we hope. So because I think we've talked about this before the monetization of. Art. And if something that I talked about a lot with many different people and it's When we're in school from an early age you can kind of tell the kids take to art naturally in the kids who don't really take naturally but that doesn't mean that they don't have any potential to do art at all but it's kind of developed in the brain that okay you're in academic you're an artist, and if you're not good at this, you're not you you're forced into the other avenue and don't waste your time doing this and so the pandemic I think people were really. weirded out because they felt like. Because time is money we live in a world where time is money and we have this idea that if we put our time into something, we want to make money off of it. So with this potentially pandemic of dislike, being forced to not do anything at all and sit in our houses a lot of people were like, what do I do with myself do? I started online business. Do I do money like ball block ballistic stuff and people were so hesitant to just like pick up embroidering and just do just embroider because they were like well, am I gonNA sell it like no just do for fun or they're like knitting like people used admit all the time in for so long because it was just something to do right. And Painting and all these different things like I feel like a lot of people in the pandemic were just so like I have to do something and I remember seeing a lot of post going around where people were like it's okay to do anything. So Katie just chill so Katie just not do just sit instead wall who cares you're not gonna be you're. Not Taxed on this time, you know you're not gonNA, have to make money from this time and People like especially musicians remember talking to. So many of my friends who had a lot of writer's block during the pandemic because they felt so like Oh, my God i'm giving this perfect opportunity. You know like I've been saying for years that I wish I had two weeks to just do anything, and now I don't know what to do and it's like the the. Stock Monica Geller closet I'll get to the closet at some point when I have time and then when we were given this time, it was like I still don't. WanNa, do it And it was. It's just it was a lot of anxiety for a lot of people and this idea of like I'm not making any money I'm not. What is this purpose of this time? You know which was a really interesting thing to to see and listen to my friends and other people discuss this experience said they were having because for me like I said like, I didn't have a job I was this was just my life like I would go and make music and I would. Go and pay like I've really come into. Following my body if my body wants to go in, sit on a rock somewhere I'm just GonNa sit amion just go do it and I still have some troubles with that but just allow solve to do what I wanNa do, and that's that's the privilege that I can do that now many people can be. A lot of. Comes from the whole societal view of success. You know. I think you mentioned money right at the end of the day. People want to pay the bills people want to buy a nice car I say the bills the need to pay the bills and they also. Want to have their luxurious items you know those that Think that they need to pay for their luxuries when in reality I i. Can tell you have friends that travel the world's in less than eight hundred dollars a month in. Like. Pretty solid for. You're paying for everything I'm talking like food and you're sleeping arrangements. It's definitely doable and. Yeah. I'm not saying there high stakes every day, but you really did enjoy their time in the end they appreciated what they were doing the grew so much. So it's that whole notion of I mean you just mentioned the whole. If I want to go sit in Iraq for hours, I'll do it and I. Think. We have to. Give ourselves. Permission. For Nothing. and. And also society has to do that in a way like education go back to the whole education thing. You know 'cause we we are who we are from when we were children insecurities, etc. Right. So if these insecurities of you have to do good in math because. We have two internal do good in school because you'll have to succeed one day I remember that was a big question all the time like Oh you have to get good grades so you can get into this university. Dueling universities you can get this job. Everything was always like a goal based and. Setting goals is always good. But there's a bigger picture of the ultimate goal is I actually want to be happy? And I I think. was. Allowed for that to happen to I think a lot of people to step back and say I'm GonNa. Do this for me and you were mentioning the luxuries and people need their luxuries they need to look away what because in society especially, with social media we've become those things have become a part of us and we feel like those are what those things are without them. We don't know who we are and a lot of people don't you know. With their coach you bags like. This me you know this is this is who I am look at me and kind of thing, and with the pandemic like everyone who is wearing slip pants no makeup like put makeup on like I. Do my eyebrows Blake I don't put makeup on anymore and I don't like putting make up on like a put it on for an audition, the other day and I was just like. This and it doesn't never gonNA wear makeup again but it's just made me realize that like. It's okay. Hey, to present myself as my rob being and it's okay to not always look as I feel like I should because the other thought is. Who really knows what that looks like if they if I don't give them the option to what is that like? What is that ideal label the looking for it really is you should just be you and. I feel like people kind of always put their ideal self on a pedestal when really. The decision you make in life you don't really know any better if you would have done this or would have done that. What happened happened and? You might as well, just kind of going accept it in a way and. Word. I remember in grade eight or something I was doing a A French presentation. And I remember. Saying something along the lines of like, Oh, well, I was going to do this Blah like I was I, wanted to do this but I didn't have time or something and my teacher. was like, don't tell us what you didn't do show us what you did because we don't know what you didn't do. An's. That has stuck with me. For. So long because we only know the things that we weren't capable of doing. Nobody else does. and. It's our choice to go out and present what we have done in what we do and just be whoever we are because no one really known cares about our lives as much as they don't know as much about our lives as we do and like I, find really interesting with like the whole lock and key thing kind of like become like many they miss I don't even like to using the word fame like the F word and Like I have like instagram fan accounts. It's weird. Earlier but like I always think I'm like older like looking at my instagram. They're carrying so much about this, and they probably know this about me and what. But unlike they probably don't because I'm the one who's always thinking about it. I'm the one who's very aware of myself and what I do and I think. It's it's important to just like take hold of. Who you are a not syncopal who you could be just think about what you're doing to get to where you WANNA be and don't care that anybody is even like the keeping tabs on you. You know I. Think that was what was weird about the pandemic is that like A lot of people find purpose and putting on makeup in a pretty outfit in the morning and getting on the subway and go into work and seeing people. And they find a lot of purpose being seen and I do that like I think everyone even if it's not like there's a subconscious kind of thing that if there's a purpose in that routine and whatnot and with pandemic with nobody seeing you I, think a lot of people were like, who am I? Would Want my legs. Become right when you mentioned that like. a lot of times I make the worst jokes like I have uncle humor like dad jokes humor. And I always tell my friends that I made myself laugh. So whatever I, I enjoy the jokes I make it's totally cool and As you illustrated that the whole everyone looking at you kind of thinking always. I just pictured myself. Looking at me. As opposed to other people and then that's how how would I wanNA act if I was looking at me And I think that's something that people could use where it's like. Everyone else out and just go with what you think is right. Because if you're already worried about other people judging you for doing Xyz, you might as well just focus on on your path you know and and then when you don't know when there's like an empty space, which a lot of people got to that empty space with this pandemic. Philip, it's like a blank canvass Throw some paint on it and see what works you know. Was a beautiful empty space and I think. ECKERD tolley he does a great job at illustrating. bangs but he discusses how the only way that we're ever going to move forward and we are ready for this. We are here now but the way we're moving forward in. The world and our strictly consciousness. As a whole of humanity is to all be greatly and deeply affected by one thing. And I remember listening to a podcast that he had with a I think Oprah. Before this like pandemic, even hit and he said there will come a day when something monumental happens to a huge group of people and. It has to happen to everybody it can't be small things and whatnot because only that group will be affected by it, but this pandemic has literally touched every single corner of the world. And Our Consciousness I'm hoping has changed to wards thinking more of what we do to fulfil ourselves. Not What we get up in the morning to fulfill somebody else in order to pay for our bills and to to give us purpose a hope that this is helps a lot of people find purpose in their own day to day because when else in the world where people will allow to just stay at home and like look at what's happening the protests that are going on all over America and all over the world to and the you know the educational realm that happened on social media like I. Hope a lot of people follow more accounts at our educational like I follow a lot of. Different accounts that that discuss different perspectives that. Especially, about the beyond on movement and everything that's happening there. and. People have. Time. People have time to discuss these things and to protests and go out and duties and Organiz them and and talk about like this is something that's not okay. Why have we been allowing it to happen for decades and that's because from Monday through Friday nine to five people were working. In this society that that was created this money creation, the this turning out of business and industrialization. Didn't ever allow anybody. Or many people to follow their passions in so many different ways whether it be creative or political or justice driven, whatever it is and this time off like no wonder we're going for such a revolution especially in the states because people have the time to really focus in on what they care about and so like put the protest decides just like that's just like if it's reading a book, you've always wanted to read or being with your family like my parents live down south. Half of the year, and then they come up here and they live here for half the year they're also like an sixties seventies. So they're like basic snow birther living your best life but. My brother and I were busy in like we we probably only saw our parents for a couple of weeks at a time throughout the year. And it wasn't for long and this was the first time in. Years that we were really able to be together and focus on family and like I was thinking the other day like this is the first time all hanging note as adults. As a kid I remember being so bored up here because I didn't have any friends running around in circles because I was like Lord. Because we didn't have any way of getting back to the city. So we had to stay up here and then when I turned probably sixteen, that's when we started staying in the city without my parents and it's just like really brought me back to the purpose of. And being in the now and just taking day by day and being okay that the days are passing I can't stop the days from passing I can stop. Feeling horrible that they are in. Your feeling that you're actually putting them to use. Even. If I'm not, you know even if I'm not just being okay with it and just saying. ident- have to create you know Roma's umbrella today. It this Every single day if I waste that they away, that's that's a day and that's okay. But that is what it is. If. I do a lot of things on one day. That's a great whatever. But. If I'm GonNa live my life regretting that I didn't do more everyday. Then that's a lot of time spent regretting and. Getting, down on myself about something. So it's up to me to just like. Take ownership of each day that has passed and focusing in on what matters to me and It's been a really huge. Learning Process for so many different things and I think a lot of people have felt the same way and going back to eckerd thing like I think we've really. I'm hoping it's been long enough. It takes twenty six days to break a habit I. think it's I. Think we've really as a society. Re? evaluated. Our lives and our purposes in the and what we want from them, and I hope that the whole consumerism thing is going to go down because of it. and. Just like the aimless. Living that I think we were running thin on before this hit. it'll be interesting to see how that goes with that. Tangents. Yeah. No it's. It's really interesting to talk about that because I think there's also different cultures have. Different perspectives on. The path of life. I'm pretty sure shared with this with you. Last time we spoke about how cute Israel it's It's different in sense that when you're in grade eleven twelve, you're not prepping you don't you're not doing sat's or prepping your grades for university you're prepping your body and your mind to serve your country and to defend the country for two to three years. And then after that, that's when you would you do university or start planning for university. So what most Israelis do they take a year off two years off and it's very, very different that whole mindset that you just mentioned of. Whatever it will be another day there is a very Israeli body language thing like. Just like that. Yeah. Forever. Not Listening I'm just going like Yeah. What will be will be a kind of a little person in my head always. Right you know. So it's it's very interesting for me to come from the Canadian background in living here and having that different. Culture and finally I'm interested in what you have to say on your travels in when you took the gap year and if you notice other cultural Even if it's not a gap year, I think hopefully win corona ends and life back to normal people can get back to the whole traveling back asking meeting New People and exposing themselves to different cultures. Any can you hear about the the leaf blower? No no I think I'm on your headphones microphones. So it's pretty isolated I'm just making sure so that it's not like an annoying buzzing sound that everyone's hearing anyway I didn't travel as much as I probably should have. Um and that's largely to do because I didn't save enough money. When I was getting ready I went to Australia and I stayed in Sydney basically stayed in. Sydney the whole time I was on beach and I've spent a lot of my time with my friends just hanging out on the beach. Oh, just. Around. Just doing whatever which is fine like it is what it is but I didn't do what you did, which was like travel to different places and see different cultures and went on Australians like I really see. Australians is just like. Canadians with an accent like. Basically. So they have a pig kangaroo instead of a pet polar bear. Polar bear. Yeah. Exactly. Yet it was. It was so much fun like, I. I really loved it but I definitely would have done it like a little bit differently looking back on it now. But I was young like H I didn't care. But you got to think of the things that you thought of got you to who you are today. So there's That whole like Oh i would have done things differently I have so many sentences like said that about and then when when POPs up in my head I kind of just like whatever I'm I'm here like what do I want to do with my life now you know. Yeah. I learned a lot of amazing things on that trip especially in the financial realm of things like understanding finances and rent and all those things. Like how to budget and? You don't have much money for even like McDonald's without point in your life you like. What I'm going to eat. figure it out but. Yeah I'm really hoping my idea is so I just got called back to to set for locking key and will most likely be going for about eight months until like April, and it's crazy like I. Don't know if they're quarantining walking down like in a hotel altogether for eight months where we see her family like I, don't know what's going to end up happening marriage. You. Hate it though when. Shooting supposed to start. September. Yeah. Incidents formation but. You can let me know if it wasn't I won't put it in observed. Well. Yes. So I don't know if they're gonNA like quarantine, lock us down but my my thought is that. You know for first season I didn't have a huge character 'cause like my big thing is like I wanna go in travel as a woman, it's really difficult to travel. And if I had my way I would I would travel I love like I love going on my own a pretty independent person but. It's hard to find somebody who's really great to travel with right now. Though I. Mean my thought is like after we're done filming season two around April April time I think if I have some time off like I'm really might possibly like booted out and go. Go and travel because I would think in April. American still aren't going to be traveling. So, that's a great time. To, go and travel because no Americans all about. Sorry. American friends they even understand they know the tourism. Of traveling yet, you definitely want to go to the locals and more like. Raw traveling makes any. Yeah and I don't WanNa be like annoying GONNA WANNA be annoying white woman walking through like places that they don't want me like that's where you get your traveling times I have a really great recommendations definitely I would. I definitely want to go back to Sydney. So what I'm thinking of doing is going back to Sydney and starting. Probably in. Sydney and doing the drive up the coast with some friends that I met over there because I really want I want time before the second season comes out and before I get working on different projects to really focus on just. Being own tell you know because you know like not flicks huge? They just Baker over three, thirty, thirty, million. Subscribers I. Think over the pandemic thirty million more make sense. Yeah. Yeah and locking key was like number one DB for very long time number one Netflix's for very long time like it's weird because like I can hear myself to other shows like Outer Banks, which was a huge instagram like phenomenon, and that's because the the whole audience is like on instagram but with locking heeds like a bunch of comic Berkner who don't care about instagram. So it's like the fame of the show is hidden in some ways and it's interesting because the show came out in February this is like a whole different tangent question you asked me but. I love it. It's great. But yeah. But the show came out on in February, and I was in la for the whole month. Of February, like in La no-one cares about you. You know like unless you're Meryl Streep Berlin. Something like no one cares about you. You're like whatever Especially, if you're not a lead on the show and I wasn't like a weed on the show and when I got back in the end of February march. It was only like. A few people remember to the big Fan Jam and having a few people come to me like you're locking key lake well. That was like a really weird thing to experience but then the world shut down. So I never really got to like interact with people who had seen the show and like meet more people. But I feel like because of the way that season one ended season two is going to be a really big opportunity for Eden and like definitely coming into the forefront more and so I wanna get as much traveling in his possible. To just like you know flow thing because I'm not stopping at locking key like I'm going I'm Goin' I'M GONNA make my way from the Egyptian theater. So the Chinese. Food. That's that's my route. Yeah. I don't know if you've read the book Four Hour. WORKWEEK I. Knowing look you might have. Yeah. So also a great podcast, Tim Ferriss strongly recommended and So he talks a lot about how you can make a the standard way of life is enough money so you can retire at the end of your life. in limited life. And he has a chapter away says you can have many retirements throughout your life. Mini vacations like long vacations where you actually properly manager finances and manager businesses or monetize things that you can make your money work for you. Even while you're traveling like different concepts, I strongly recommend the for our. Book. Twenty one listening. Yeah it's I think really cool to plan that out where it's like. Chapter. Have a nice little two three months break and then keep going with the with the marathon. Epilepsy. Like I'm very lucky to be enacting because I get to experience things like that and I feel very privileged to be able to experience that kind of The ability to work on a project. Makes money and then say okay. I'm going to go off and live in. Australia for three months and let me know if there's like some auditions that you want me to do because like now auditions are all lake remote I do at home probably GonNa stay that way for a very long time But yet like I feel really lucky that I'm able to do that. But I feel like more people should that and like ready fortunately with a lot of jobs, many people aren't able to do that because they have families, they have to keep a roof over their heads. I feel very, very lucky to be able to do this but Also you have to save up your sick days in order to get two weeks off like that's ridiculous. Nantel house like. No wonder. So many people are loving this time because they didn't even realize that they were pushing themselves so hard in that they were. Over exerting themselves and not taking time just like slowdown and chill and like I, know we can't travel right now. But. Just, having that time of space I think has been so huge for many many people. So after eight months of being locked down potentially like not being able to see friends or family like I've not been seeing them for the past four months. So at eight months onset by for a whole year, basically it's GonNa be really interesting to like take experience that and then potentially go off to Australia for a month or something like that'd be sick like to do that. But we'll see like honestly I'm just doing day by day I also might not be able to because of the music I'm working on. If I'm going, to be locked down for. Like eight months I'm GONNA have to really backlog all of the music video shoots that I'm planning. A lot of filming and all that stuff. So I don't know there's so many logistics I don't want to think about it. Well that sounds like A. Awesome projects that you're working on honestly I, feel like your listeners. Girl rambles Nano. That's that's what mock aster for we get. We got a listeners who WANNA listen to cool interesting ideas and I think. I like to think we've been having some cool interesting ideas as. We talked three hours. Last time is true. Yeah. It's always crazy. It's always interesting having our conversations I. IT brings me back to our. Our schmoozing back in high school honestly. US. You know what's funny I've been looking for an animator for my music video stuff because I can't fill music videos right now. So I was thinking of getting animated versions of what's in my head to just like have. And was talking to somebody somebody else about it and they were like, Oh sorry like Jacob Goodell from I. Think I miss. Is you better I message you exile? Yeah I told you better take of innovations. Well message checkup heat is three D. animation claim. Or whatnot and Mona came in rich anyway he the animation not what I was looking for, and he's like you should message Henze go and I was like. I'm such an idiot. Like okay for everyone. I go is. Like, what have you in my closest friends from high school still close friends and he's so good at it like he's so good at what what exactly what I was looking for, and it was just crazy that I didn't even think about it but it's so close talking to Kenzi for a while on the phone the other day talking about like. He's actually working on a project right now, which is exactly the project I have in mind. He just happened to take on this project like be doing it right now and I was like that's. Like our paths are aligning and he's like, I'm not giving you the option I'm a part of this project like. Like Okay GOING, be. To work with somebody from from The Hague in like somebody who I love so much like just. You know can I like didn't talk for a few years like we just on different paths in our lives and then we fell back in with each other about two years ago a year ago. And he's been doing some amazing work and to just see like everybody a lot of people from Hague just really flourish. It's been really really cool like, Hey, has some cool alumni except on Halloween Jesse callum Mawdsley Lake. Come off like. At School Anyway I. And I told you this last time we spoke. that. You need to go to Haig and speak to all like dude. I remember we would bring in alumni network like at one time they brought in a three d animator. Coincidentally. And then they had him speak to just caught soon. And I, remember he got so mad about that. But I think you should definitely message whoever needs to be messaged at Haig, and then when life gets back to normal, you gotTa do is speech of your whole. Path, that would be crazy closure for you as well, and it'll be like. Super Super Cool. I Love Public Speaking I. I've always obviously anyone listening at home can tell that I love talking. The time Wiz able to talk once I started talking I didn't stop. And I would love to go back. I've always had this idea even when I was in high school of going back to my middle school and talking and like discussing with people like just sharing these little things that I wish I heard from somebody when I was in middle school and high school. There's so many little things that. I think are. Obviously we need to formulate them in, write them down because I can go and talk for hours and they're going to be like you have fifteen minutes I'll be like, okay. condensing twenty pages. But? I would love to do that. I think that that's definitely something that's on my agenda in the next two years probably after season two because I would think like that's kind of age range of people who'd watch walking. Shoes one hundred personnel be insane to just walk into that school like Oh like my summit kind of flip just like envisioning walking back into the bego targeting in hall. Yeah, Carnegie No knock earning in one of my saying, what's it called? Franken. Hall Yeah. I knew that, but it sounds weird I haven't heard that in five years. Away, the hall now wave was outside of screening hall. I. Think I don't know I might be I might be bashing it myself. I don't know it's been five years. We're talking about. Yeah I would love to do that because I definitely would say like it's not it can't be a Claude Watson only I. think it would be like a Claude Watson than anybody who else wants I really wanted to say like Oh yeah. We're only GONNA do it for called Watson then you know. Now is coming. I wasn't Claude Watson student if you WANNA do Claude Watson only talk I'm going to Bash Claude. Like a needs because for someone like me even if I was like like suggests if they did a Claude Watson and then anybody who wanted to come. Would I. A little bit more into meeting. It's intimidating yeah and I don't I don't want that. It would be more like anybody who wants to come in listen to this talk or like doing it at sops assemblies where like at the end of the shops assembly like a quick talker like another simply or whatever I talked at the media we assembly because I had gone to an Ecuador. Media We. Trip when I was like. thirteen or something, and now I have different thoughts on that whole thing but I remember standing up in. Like talking about my experience and I loved it. I was like this is such a thrill I love public speaking. So it's definitely something I wanted to do. It will definitely be something I will do and I love that you would like you were already thinking that because I was like I think I needed that extra push. You just gotTa do it for sure for sure I. Think it's First of all, it would be very beneficial for any student. Who is literally in that exact same position who's Just, regular O'Hagan has been trying to get into Claude. Even someone who Claude Watson, it's just an inspiring kind of. Israelis. Straight. Like I told you the beginning of the episode. And I think it would also be very good for you because it's literally waiter where it all happened. And it's weird. All didn't happen. They if you're looking at that way like the things that. Were set up unintentionally, but all of the things that were set up to stop me. That's what I went through and like the friends, the friendship turmoil I went through the self you know the mental health turmoil I went through the fears and anxieties. I went through the embarrassments I went through like all these different things that had happened to me are the reason I am who I am today and you know I play this mean character on this show on locking key and you're gonNA say waters. Here's the thing you know what to say. Okay. So even Hawkins mocking key is a bitch Straight up. She's. She's insecure. You know like I think it's important to to acknowledge that nobody just comes out of the womb of which I mean maybe some people will like there's obviously a lot of insecurities that this character has it might not be explicitly written out or whatever. But I've made that decision because I've based even Hawkins a lot on myself in school and I've done a lot of work in my life since high school to really push out that part of me and nobody's pure and perfect and the kindest like I think some people like, are you know they're just like little saints? I'm not a little same. I can be bitch sometimes like that is what it is asked my mom she would tell you but it's Like for me I know that I can get further in life with kindness sinfield better with kindness and something that I've really developed like worked on But looking back a high school experience I was really insecure because I didn't get into the quad program and I wasn't strong academics numbers the cloud and you know I didn't have the greatest group of friends and stuff. Pitch back then like I wasn't always the nicest person and you you say like. That's not true. And I think I was just in that different friend group I remember. Like the guys that we used to hang with. The ABRO, she's part of the part of the crew like we. Learned that one of the guys? I. Guess It was a different circle to the what you claim to be a bitch I. I think I think I say that like an set it on on talk shows in interviews in whatnot. I think there's conscious part of me that if somebody who. I. Wasn't kind to is listening to me talk about it. It's not right for me to say I was I was so nice I was like definitely not this Eden Hawkins person because then that's GonNa. It's I need to I want to validate. How Bay experienced? Connected little. Yeah. I don't want them. and. I don't know who would be but it might have been like a comment I made or something I did and I can't claim to be a perfect person because I wasn't and I know I wasn't and I know I still unknown and I still have a lot of things to work on it. You know there have been a lot of reflective. Times in the last while where you know I was I've been working really hard on making sure that I have a smile on my face and that I make people feel welcome and make people feel good. And sometimes, like something might slip or something might come out wrong I'm tired and I say something you know I don't want to say like I'm definitely not even Hawkins because I think. That would just be. What's the word I'm looking Cut. Know what's opposite of validating like the? Like this validating what's the like you know what I forget that word I'm o'halloran of not not I. Don't even know I've yeah. But it's like that would give people the opportunity to like walkway being like she's a liar to like. She doesn't even realize what she did to me and that doesn't mean that I was always that person but I know that there was definitely some moments where I'm not proud of and. It's not my my. I think I think people are. Fully aware of. Our Lady and then I was layered bitch back then list. But even like I'm not even just just saying that I didn't really consider you a better just because it was that different. You know and that. I guess the biggest aspect or the bitch layer that you claim to to have been just didn't really show up In our friend group and even now I think I've read. That's every person can have layers. Yeah I. Think The big part of like our friend group was that you guys just accepted me for who I was and I didn't have to pretend to be anything else and I think you know not being in Claude. Watson I was always trying to prove myself and that's a big thing that tries to do is that she's she's putting up this mean facades that she doesn't come across as being weak like I was watching the show again in my mom was like, why are you so mean to tyler and I was like well, they he just walked out on. Up with her and that's embarrassing. It's probably never happened to to eaten before and so she's putting up this mean facades not seen week and so in high school and Middle School I think more so in middle school definitely like I think. I was more that prisoners China, like be cool or whatever with my girlfriends and. It was this deep driven insecurity of mine not being in the called Watson Program and not. Being you know even a dancer like the dancers cool like I saw the dancer as being like cruel girls and. It was. I wasn't accepted in that group and I tried so hard I tried. So often try to be accepted in that friend group and I just wasn't because I wasn't one of them, and so I put up this layer of lake while. Whatever like this is. And I had like my two girlfriends that you know we were kind of the other. We were the collegiate popular girls and then there were the dance popular, the Claude, Watson popular girls, and so there was kind of like this. Little. Know Bitchy war going on. I might not agree with that Blake from my perspective I'm just saving face in case somebody did have a bad experience with me and I don't want to make them feel like I'm invalidating there is not the word invalidating. involved. Thing so Invaluable I. Don't know whatever. But like I don't want them to me I don't WanNa make them feel that they're not that they're experience isn't valid because if that happened that happen and I'm not gonNA pretend that you know my past is perfect like that's not who I am and I want to grow and if anybody did have a problem and they still carry around with them, I want them to come to me and I want them to say, Hey, this is what you said or this is something that's stuck with me for so long and I still don't feel good about it like i WanNa talk about it I don't want anyone feeling like. That's who I am still because it's not like I am I am constantly trying to improve myself, and if I deny those things what is that doing for anybody that's only just making me look bad and it's making somebody else feel bad so that it's the closure it's to not holdings. Exactly. Exactly. So Does what it there's we're not perfect humans. Well. I mean. The time literally flies whenever we just get. Long conversations. What I don't know if you have anything to add. Yeah, like I. I don't have too much of. What we've been talking about, but we'd with kindness and always understand that. More to learn out there and we don't know everything and there's so much space for growth and you're never done growing. It's always a journey and you gotTa Accept Every Single Day as what it is, and if it's not the best days, that is a learning day. And Yeah take time for yourself. All take time for yourself and take time to to grow. Doesn't happen overnight. Love it. Love it. Also watch locking tease. At this point, they should have already caused the EPA survey. We mentioned earlier Vincent. All Cut. Yes also I'm working on an album right now with my brother. August. Is His name's Austin. But if you look up Austin Jones Google, you'll understand why he doesn't go by Austin. Jones. That's not him. By the way, you'll have to look this up until it's. No this. Is your brother, but I'm assuming. Rotting purposefully in jail. Well. anyways. So my brother and I August. August, he's born in August and. August full name We're making an album we're up at the cottage for this whole time, and we're hoping to have this album out for twenty, twenty one and yeah, you can find everything that I'm working on on my instagram like we said earlier Cheryl I, share a lot on instagram Tell the audience you're handles how they can. It's just super basic straightforward onto put her instagram. It's Halla Jones Age A. L. L.. E. A. J. O. N. E. S.. And yet. So and we also just started a Patriae on So all the money's going towards paying my brother to make this album because it's kind of weird I ister hand money to a brother but also every month we're going to be taking a percentage of all the profit that we make and focusing in on charity a different charity each month to just give it a platform and talk about it and Yes. So we're putting out a bunch of. Music on their logs and breakdowns of songs and lyrics and inspiration behind the songs and Also for one at a tears were sending out these little goodie bags painting CD's I'm GonNa, send them out to people. So join us on there. It's it's fun. It's just starting up. So it's a slow build, and then when we get to fifty patrons where at least eighteen I think we get to fifty patrons. We're going to be putting a song out on spotify. So excited about that. Exciting citing. Well, it's it's been a great pleasure to have you on the podcast and I think. Listeners in viewers have learned a lot and. A lot of inspiration from your story I, guess for everyone has tuned in. Thank you so much for spending the time with us and. Forgetting as far and putting my rambles. Yeah Yeah and I guess, we hope to see you next week on episode and. Check out other dreamer talks from last week's episode. All right. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of Dreamer talks. 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June 26th, 2020

Other People's Shoes

1:07:52 hr | 8 months ago

June 26th, 2020

"Thank you so much for joining us on other people's shoes today. As you know, I'm your host new Matthews before we get into today's episode I want to invite you into a little bit of a celebration that we're doing behind the scenes that we're now making public. We've officially crossed an important threshold. That threshold is our show has now been downloaded over ten thousand times. Thank you so much. You the listener you that have supported us all this last year and a half, and we're super excited to celebrate. We're going to give away a pair of shoes. That's right. You heard me correctly if you go to our website right now, www dot O. PS podcasts, dot com you're going to see on our show logo right when you come to that page looks like there might be a pair of vans perhaps. And so we want to celebrate that with you, and so we're going to give you a chance to win a brand new pair of vans whether you're guy or the girl doesn't matter. We will buy you a brand new pair of vans, and all you have to do is two things to enter into this contest. The first thing we want you to do is on our site, you'll notice a little tab called connect. If you click on that, there's a little drop down that will that you just put in your email address for name and the message box we want you to put ten thousand. That's all you have to do to enter their second place. You can enter while you're on our site. Still there's a little thing called rank the show if you click on that, TAB Take you to a place called rank on pod chaser right there. You just click on that link it'll take you right to podge Acer. And you can leave us a review. By entering in some basic information on Pod chaser and you leave that review there we'll see it there and you get a second entry and at the end of October, we will put everybody's name into a drawing and we will pick a lucky winner. So go do that right now if you're interested, please stay tuned for the show because here we go. Thank. Stay. In, other people's shoes as you know I'm your host Neal Matthews. Hopefully, you're ready in geared up for what may be a very exciting not only finished to October but of course, you know what's on the horizon I think we're finally done with it. Maybe what am I referring to? Well, I'm referring to the election and so it's not very often we get political on this show is never been my aspiration to have a political podcast but I do think As a citizen of this nation. And as a as my father has defended this nation I do believe we need to be educated citizens. Whether you're on the right whether you're on the left, it does not matter today today we're GONNA be. Talking about. That political atmosphere that we've all been kind of experiencing. So join me on that journey today. Help me welcome in. He is a bestselling author. In fact, he recently released a book which I'm kind of excited about just by the title alone by the way political homelessness Christian. All right. How to how to conquer the political ideology reject the polarization and reconnect with God's greatest to commandments. He's also the host of fertile soil podcast. So go listen to that right now if you're interested in listening more about that, we of course, link that in our show notes, he also is a blogger. He's a husband. He's a father of four. Help me welcome in my guest, Aaron Aaron, how are you today? Good and I'M GONNA. Thanks for having me. Good I. Hope I gave you a good welcome, right I mean. Hopefully. Red Carpet was dead Kirk. Okay. Good we. We did roll out the red carpet I got the vacuum out the What what did we have the dyson animal? Now I think my wife just picked up a costco. So there's a shade onto. Extended warranty and everything, and that way the break we'll take it back. Costco it doesn't matter right? I've seen a return line sometimes, people are bringing back watermelon. This wasn't sweet enough costco. I'm going to need a new outright like really come on stop it anyway. I'm excited about your book and I know you're probably more excited about your book because it's your book and it's it's your first book to write. Isn't it? It is it is yeah. I've been thinking about writing a book for a long time, but this is the this is the first one and it's still in its infancy. It's not been out that long. So it's still feeling a little bit surreal. It's your book baby I've heard people say new authors we've had on have have, of course, referred to their books babies so I was say Book Baby. So guys if you're interested in knowing more about his book and learning more about his book, We of course have put it under our website under books. We love check it out right now at opiates podcast dot com you'll see a drop down link books. We love you'll see his book right there on towards the top we put him towards the top. That's how important this is to. US and to him. So we put it towards the top take a look at that again under our website opium podcast dot com books we love and you'll see it right there and you can click on it, and of course, get yourself a copy today because I'm sure you're GonNa want to after we dig into this this subject matter that we're talking about today but before we get to. All that we of course got an answer the most important question of all time. Aaron I know you're probably GONNA be on a number of shows you share this book and get it out there and and get it into people's hands. But nobody I guarantee nobody's going to ask you this most important question of all time. Are you ready I'm ready all right. Aaron. What size shoes do you wear? Oh man want six foot six and might not be able to tell if you're watching this on the on the video but yeah I'm six foot six. So I actually wear a twelve normally sometimes thirteen to pay on the brand. So yeah well, that's going to be my next question is what brander style do you like to wear the most? Oh I am I I'm data four. So I I always go with the least trendy the least fashionable possible. My all my colleagues make fun of me and There might be a little bit of that coming forth warning. It's a combination usually wearing these like plain white. You know although it's if I'm if I'm going for a run and is usually new balance. And now we're in errands shoes. Okay. What does it with people in new balance? I know I know what new balance is ever going to hear my show and they're like we're never ever giving your show any form of love from new balance. If you see behind me on our wall here for those that that aren't watching the video because we haven't done videos yet don't worry. They may be coming in the next year, hold your horses audience, but but I have a pair of vans hanging on my wall there, and we're actually giving a brand new vans out this month. So just A. Little Plug for our for our giveaway. So if you haven't entered in that yet you're running out of time because we are GonNa be giving away a brand new vans. So Aaron if you're interested, we could get you some cool shoes. You just have to go to podcast dot com felt a little entry form and you are entered or rate is on Itunes or pod chaser there as well. So. Now that I've gotten all the show business, see what I did they're out of the way Aaron. Brought to us this event that that is actually pretty recent, and this event is June twenty sixth twenty twenty and I want you to of think about that for a second because that that's the day for you. That really kinda started to change things. Some dominos started to kind of fall for you. Right a reaction that. Yeah. No absolutely absolutely. But before we get to that, where are you from in and if we go out and visit you, where would you take us like where's the best part about town the town that you're in in in? Why where would you take us if we came for a visit? Oh Man. So I live in Oak Michigan. So just east of East Lansing and I was born raised in the grill scenario went Michigan State for Undergrad and Grad School and so yeah. If you're coming to visit I depend on the time of year, probably take you to a possibly Michigan State basketball game. Go See Go see Tom Izzo. Of I know everyone can't see your background proceed North Carolina Paraphernalia all over the wall. So I'm still bitter about virtually every time the your team has beaten us in every major game in the last twenty years. So probably a probably a basketball game maybe as a Spartan football game that would be towards the top of the list for sure. So I know this is really your day and this is where you know. You're event, but you brought that up I didn't. You brought that up but I. But I just want to remind you of your another day before we gets your day again, June twenty, six, two, thousand, twenty. But you remember what happened on April sixth two, thousand and Nine D. do you remember that date at all? Yeah. Yeah. Painfully. Okay. I I just want her because it happened kind of in your backyard to happen Detroit Michigan Area I mean. Do you know that? Little brutal, brutal brutal. So for those that don't know I'm referring to. I'm referring to eighty nine seventy to be down of North Carolina beating Michigan state by the way Ty Lawson had twenty one points in that game. Just, we'll just let that sit on the table. And we're out joy that I was feeling that night. I know I know. Me, the shortest podcast you've ever Up Now. It'd be like man I had had the guests lined up and then they bolted after talking seventeen point loss is. A. I'm sorry I had to. You brought up Sparty I had to so I. Shout out to my. My Buddy. He's a he's a sparty too. So that was more for him and for you. So it was like a double whammy but anyway, let's get back to you. So June June twenty, six, twenty twenty what. What's the domino effect that we're referring to and and the the series of events that leads to where we are now. Yeah No. Absolutely well I. I was actually writing a completely different book at that time, and so I've been about through probably quarter of the way into writing a book that was parenting focus still through a Christian. Lend still a faith based parenting book and it was something I've been excited rick for a long time and I had been having this spent a buildup up until that. Over the last really several years. It's been so heartbreaking to see just the deep deep deep levels of polarization in our country. And I think what's been the most heartbreaking for me over that time period Is the role that I've watched Christians play in it. And to see. To. See us not leading with love and grace for others that might not view politics the same way we do and Not Keeping. That that bringing the love of Christ to people as our first and foremost goal and then priorities Christians. But seemingly, that are political affiliation was was starting to take precedence over that. had been welling up me over the last three three and a half years and just had been kind of reaching a bit of A. Tipping Point and I think everyone started to feel that over the summer I don't think I'm alone and feeling that sort of you know that volcanoes starting to erupt a bit now and the pressure is building. And I was having a conversation on that twenty six. With someone that is someone that I know has a really good heart. And just really really really good heart. And hearing. Certain actions certain words being defended. And that like vigorously defended, but just kind of brushed aside. It made me realize just how deep That identity piece really runs for so many people. That whether whether your identify yourself as a Democrat and an or your identifies Republican. It really struck me on that day during that conversation as we were driving together to pick up lunch that. This. This is something that we've gotten so far into our own echo chambers and so far to do our own corners. That as Christians. We've done one of two things. Typically, what I found is over these conversations over the last three or so years is people have fallen into one or two gangways either they have picked their side and they will be defending that side to the death. You know I. It doesn't matter what anyone to any politician that does anything like regardless how reprehensible might be I will be defending my side the death or there's been a huge part of us as Christians that have become Disengaged where we say I hate politics I can't stand it. It's gross on both sides I'm just to completely withdraw and. At that point I was like man, there's so many things I wanna say in this conversation that I don't feel fully equipped to say. And I feel like we would need three hours. We only have thirty minutes. And then the justice for the book happened and that was when I started thank like I feel like I really. I think just put like everything that God's has in my heart right now into a book and in that's that that sense that. So many of us have right now 'cause there's also that big chunk in the middle and I think those are the folks that disengage it. So many folks in the middle that say. Man I may be slightly more lean in one direction or the other. But I don't I I do feel politically homeless i. feel like I am like just in that was that was the jets title the politically homeless Christian because I think there's so many people that feel that intense poll right now and so but that was the first. That was the first starting point on that on that June twenty six with the discussion with the friend, and then it really built and built and built over the next couple weeks and culminating in the decision over the fourth of July weekend truly dive in and do it. Because it's a big brain of books pretty big undertaking and I really want to make sure he got up for the election. So the thought of going from nothing on paper yet to like the full draft edited produce published in launched in a matter of just a couple of months. You know it was really from the I asked I writing to when it was launched was only two months. So it was an absolute sprint and having four kids at home during covert It's been a busy busy busy season getting the book launched but. During that, we can half somebody conversation with my kids in conversations with neighbors and friends. That just continued to reinforce the fact that. There's so many feeling this way and I put a message out there that could potentially help. Now first off I love I love the title because if I'm going to be. If I'm going to be. Candid. I think for years now. I have felt very homeless in a in a sense because. You know even though I'm an inventor Evangelos. Christian by definition disciple of Jesus I I, call myself more than anything else and honestly, and this is gonNA sound foreign to to some that me listen to this but I really don't like the word Christian? It only three times in scripture. The word disciple though however I don't know what the number is, but it appears way more times than three. We'll just leave it at that and so from that standpoint I really struggle with again I struggle with that were Christian from that standpoint plus I think the word has been used and abused and manipulated right so. There's where I'm coming from. There's my perspective on it, but again, this isn't my perspective. This is yours but I do want to say I think. In and help us with this but I think if people really could. Understand grace better for others. I think it could help our world maybe get a little bit better if they can happen what what do you think on that? Oh hundred percent one, hundred percent it is, and you know the funny thing about it meal is that the first title of my book I actually switched the title and so the First Huddle, my book was actually going to be grace filled politics and that was actually can be the title of it and and that's that's a that's a pretty good title. But the more I thought about it was like I feel like it's seven out of ten where if you came across that title, you wouldn't exactly know what it's about. You wouldn't necessarily in the same way like the politically homeless Christian I think speaks to folks in a little bit more of a visceral way and but that's that's what the books about is. How do we bring grace into our politics? How do we actually seek to understand before we understood? How can we actually look for? In honestly, the best solutions to some various problems I mean, our our world's facing a lot of extremely challenging circumstances right now. And I, think what's happened is we've convoluted our political affiliation. With our actual personal identity and so it's funny when you were making fun of Michigan, state spartans getting it. So analogous to the way we actually follow politics now is that politics has stopped being about, Hey, i. want I want to elect a representative who I feel like is going to go to Washington on our behalf that is going to work in a bipartisan fashion were crossed the aisle brainstorm ideas and try to cope with real world solutions to complicated issues. And we started to follow it as just the horse race. It's just become a sport where I I don't care as much about. Whether or not my side wins I just really want your side to lose and that's been so ever-present over these last several years where I'll see it on both sides he jumped on facebook and goodness gracious I can't remember the last time. I. Saw positive article where someone said man this is really good proposal from a democratic member of Senate or you know this is this is a really great puzzle from my Republican. Congressman it's usually all always the negative it's what's wrong with other side and and that's really the the. Of the book is how we take away identity from politics. Do we make sure that we're not to reading like a Tarheel Fan and a Spartan fan where you know all I just so much identity is tied up in winning and losing in it shouldn't be like that politics because you know if we allow politics to be a sport. And we so desperately want to lose. Then, it comes down to the best ideas are not gonNA bubble the surface we're not going to allow ourselves to actually be open minded. The fact that hey, is it possible if conservative that on the aisle is actually an idea that's a little bit better to conquer this issue or vice versa if I'm liberal and all of a sudden, it conservative comes with with a potential piece of legislation that could actually help if I am. So dead set on I can't. I can't take the L. I can't take the loss in the loss column therefore to fight against it because it was not my idea and I think that the place we've got to his country and that starts with US sticking step back and say and I no longer want to be a republican or Democrat. I want to be a follower of Jesus, and if my identity is firmly rooted there. Now I can. I can step out of that horse race I can step out of that arena. And actually ask is this person I'm considering voting for. Someone that I can put my name next to is someone that I can actually stand behind and say you know what I think that they're going to bring a level of of. To the political process, they're going to bring a level of humility and intellectual curiosity to to search for those best ideas AH regardless poop brings them there, and so for me that is why over the last several years I have prioritized character in politicians. Over specific platform issues because ultimately what it comes down to is half the stuff that they talk about changing during the election cycle doesn't get anyone. And I would always rather vote for the person that I feel like has the personal characteristics in integrity and humility, and that willingness to work across the aisle because I think that's where the magic happens and right now we just lost a lot of that because of the deep polarization because that horse race because that's sports arena mindset that we have towards politics today. So a friend of mine, give credit where credit's due a friend of mine named Shawn McCoy fell pastor not only a friend of mine but into the show fan of the show. Asked me one time he said. Now. For those that are now basketball fans, this might get lost on you but I don't think it'll get lost on on u Erin. Hey Coach K. came out with a new way of running an offense or new way of defending on the defensive. End. That was revolutionary. Could you hear him out? Asking me that question right and you see the banners behind you see the Jersey. You know by the way if I turn even more you could you know you could see the warm-up jumper I mean it's it's really awesome in here for me would probably feel not at home you'd be homeless here. In the studio but I say that because my immediate response to him was no, absolutely not I can't hear anything. Coach K. has a say nothing that man has nothing to say in my opinion nothing evalu-. You serious. And I said Sean I'm dead serious. Yes. I'm dead serious. Now that's a basketball coach. That's that's not a person. That's not a man woman. You know whoever? Running our country making policies making legislation you know helping maybe feed homeless kids or or finding money to help feed. Kids or shoe other intercity kids are you know get money back into schools or whatever it may be? That's a basketball coach. And he said you really can't I said no, and he said, and you're what's wrong with our country. I mean he might not have said that I might add that part but. I think he was thinking that, but you could see that it is. Yeah facetime but. But I see that because I parallel that to say, do you think that that's where we are right now is is that you have been if I if if I can maybe now make it a you statement or an I statement for you is that where you have been with some political figures as well like I can't I can't hear anything they have to sing anymore because there's no value what they're saying. You know I think that that was I think that going back to lean up the election of two thousand eight. Hundred percent that was my perspective towards politics. I have the party that I voted for I was one hundred percent and in you know in full transparent people can take this for what it is are listening to you. I was a pretty staunch. Either independent out vote Libertarian or Republican one or the other that was that was can how voted all the way up until two thousand eight? Still voted independent still still voted that way. But I started to realize back then. So twelve years ago. That a lot of the political opinions that I held. And the the fierceness with which I did hold them where it was like no. If this idea comes from the other side I'm not not interested in hearing it because they're clearly wrong doesn't matter what the opinion is. I started to realize that a lot of them were simply opinions that I had always held for no other reason than I'd always help him. It was just this is what I believe growing up this was, and therefore I sought out content that confirm magazine Worldview I read articles that made me feel better about my position that didn't challenge them and it was a pretty cool moment leading up to election thousand eight where it was the first time I'd ever like split ticket voting. still voted independent at the top of the ticket, but I started actually ask myself. DO I. Actually believe what I think I believe. It's one of the things I. Go through the book with folks is I took probably fifteen to twenty of the most hot button topics. And this was just for me. This wasn't for anyone else. and. I would just say you know what? Let's. Let's think about healthcare. Let's think about gun control us think about immigration status and he's hot button issues. And I want to actually ask myself. What do I really believe on that? And in some depth with some not just like one question but going deepening I was like to have this. It's it's fun for me talking to friends about these types of issues. Like. Thing about gun controls an example I would say that no one in this country believes that every single person should be able to have a nuclear weapon I don't think anyone in the country would say the Second Amendment, clearly states that we have the right to bear arms and if the government can have nuclear weapons like part of the reason why we have the right to bear arms is in case we need to rise up against radical government and so they've got nukes we deserved of nukes I don't think anyone's position I. Never heard someone defend nuclear weapons in the hands of people as part of a second. Amendment right. It's also extremely rare. There's probably some people out there. That would completely outlaw guns, but that's that's like very, very French and I don't think. There's a guy in Iowa right now that's probably freaking out going. Yeah, I deserve the. Right now it's you. It's a big ten school, but it's probably why picked anyway I just wanted to chime in on that because. Off Off Mike I'm like, I love that thought process never thought about it that that way before that's that's a great thought anyway continuously no. Yes. We all we all embrace. There is nuance like there is there somewhere in between is the truth and so actually ask yourself that question of. Okay. So right now, the line in our country is essentially You know automatic that's usually like you think about that is this typically. Fifteen right is our we're talking about. Yeah, and so we're constantly somewhere in that range is where the fight happens. And I don't think very many people actually stop and ask themselves truly feel about whether or not. That's a necessary or a right and why do I feel that way and what doubts and I'm not saying that once is rarely other issues very rarely. Do we stop and ask ourselves that and then ask the follow up question of well. Okay. So let's say I believe that they should be legal. Do I. Think there should be a more robust permanent process if I'm going to have if I'm going to have a weapon that's right. At the top of the level that we think should be allowed to be had by a a normal citizen should there be an extra permit should be extra training required should there be. We don't. We don't ask these questions with a lot of depth. We simply say I believe in Sacramento writes rights and therefore my guns or we simply say guns are causing a mass number of shootings in our country and we need to figure it out. And what happens is in the midst of that fight, we lose the nuance and so we ended up seeing red and defending our position to the death instead of actually saying, let's go deep. Let's actually talk realistically about about these topics in a more robust way and that was something I did just for myself. I journaled like crazy for several weeks cleanup the election, and I'll tell you what Neil it was. It was pretty wild for me I would say about. Thirty to forty percent of my positions that I had previously held pre staunchly. Either change completely or at least had a certain degree of nuance added whereas like you know I still feel like I felt but I don't feel it has strongly and I do think there is more depth to that issue than I really would have admitted and I think that that's a healthy thing for everyone to do coming up this this election is why do I believe what I believe and do I actually believe the Dow that thought previously? because. A lot of times we get caught up in that mindset of always believing we've always believed and then seeking out information confirmed that existing worldview. Totally agree on that and I think. I think that's been my challenge to it sounds like that's been your challenge. Right? Is this idea of I've always believed this and then you find stuff that supports that belief right? We don't ever really stop and say hold on time out on the floor. What is it really like to be and I am being flippant here on purpose but what is it like to be a Michigan? State Fan. What was it? Back, in two thousand and nine, right What was the heartache that you guys went through? You guys had a good season right and then you just ran into this amazing dynamic North Carolina team but. Again just as a parallel, but I, think it's true right But I also know this like I recently watched a documentary called I'm. GonNa mess it up now social dilemma. It was a documentary about facebook instagram twitter how social media is affecting us and they had some big wigs from facebook bigwigs from Google I mean these are programmer guys. Uber all those all those people that we use these platforms for an and explains to us why and how they work and how they kinda keep us on the page and do things like that. Honestly. After that I was wanting to delete every social media account I have for the show for personally I mean it. It's a fantastic documentary. I'm not getting paid to say that. I. I don't want people to be like, Oh, you got you got a sponsor finally no promise I'm not but I say that because. I wonder about social media you talk about always finding people that agree with you and you're like, that's just what I believe because I have bill over here. That's confirming that or I have susie over here. That's confirming that I don't know which side billon suzy are around their fictitious people but. You think social media has a role to play. In not only in your life, but in the life of this political cycle. We're. Absolutely and I I think that there are the two factors the cable news in general on both sides. But much much much more profound is the social media piece because right now when you see the amount of people that that's where they go for their sole source of news is facebook and twitter. And the Algorithms? Quite literally say what do you like? What do you not? GonNa show you more of things that you either like or things that outrage you because those are the things that we generally click on and so what happens is all you see is more things that outrage you which makes you again hate the other side even more or things you already agree with. And so it's important and this is where it come back to the thing that you mentioned earlier about leading with grace. I I would say about six to nine months ago was a low point for me. Towards Just, the state of our country, the state of our world. Where it was just deeply saddening to look at it and say, how is it that there are some Christians? That would post that type of content how their Christians that love Jesus that I know that they have a good heart and that they. Would would would high into that level of vitriol of the type of the type of things that would be posted. And it actually flipped a little bit from your last three to six months. We're actually stopped being angry at those people and I stopped being like saddened by like, how is it possible? And instead, it's still been. It's still a deep level sadness, but it's more of a deep level sadness towards the recognition. that. For the most part. Folks that are on the stream polar the folks that are on the far far far right or the far far far left. They're quite literally delivered in different universes from each other like the facts that they read differ the news stories that come across their feet are different. The quotes from people that come across their page are different. They're literally living in a different universe than each other. and. The hard part is if you would ask either one of them. They would acknowledge that that is true. And they would both be deeply convicted in the fact that they're the one that's living in the real world. And that the other side is ben completely brainwashed. and. That's the real challenges right now I think there's a a large percent of our country that feels like the other side has been completely brainwashed. And they don't know what's truly happening out there. And and then there's a huge chunk of people that are in the middle of the have completely detached from politics because they're so frustrated by the whole thing and they're like, I don't want to deal with any of it. I don't have any of it and I think that's the challenge right now is that the folks that probably have the best opportunity to reach the folks that have gone way down the rabbit hole in either direction? Are Actually the folks in the middle that currently are the most disengaged. And that's one of the big motivators from you and writing the books are not one of my friends was asked me who do you use the target audience for this and it was funny. We were like literally the night before the launch we were texting. And and he was Beta readers he read it forever launched and he's like I really enjoyed the book out really spoke to me a lot of ways and. I'm not, GONNA, lie don't know how else can the SAL Jeez. Wow. Okay. All right. Thank you for your support. And he laughed he was like because I feel like the folks that most need to hear the message aren't GonNa buy it. And I laughed because I was like who do you perceive as most needing to to to read it? And his vision was I think that it's the folks on those far ends of either side of the political spectrum and told him that's the disconnect is that's not actually who I wrote the book for. You know and I hope that those you'll will read the book also and I think that I. I've had people in my life that I know for a factor extreme conservative and facts folks I know for vector extremely liberal that reached out to me that of Said just finished the book and it really challenged me in a lot of really good ways I'm so glad I read it. And that was pretty cool to hear that from both sides of the aisle. So it wasn't just a book that was you know pandering to one side and you know that was neat. But I told my friend has like I'm reading this book for the for the person. Feels that political humble says like I don't fit in either one of these because those folks. Are The people that I think can can can actually go after the hearts of their friends that maybe have been down that political rabbit hole a little bit too long. and. They can actually get them re centered on Jesus because that's not gonNA happen through social media like we're not GonNa win over hearts and minds through facebook were not going to win over hearts and minds by a single blog post. But if the folks that are that that feel that deep tension of I am so torn and I don't feel like I belong. That's a good thing. You shouldn't feel like you belong because we don't want this earth. This is not an ultimate home and like we should not have a messiah that is you know, Joe Biden we should not have messiah the Donald Trump like that is not that they are not like that is not who we're here to to serve, and so I think that when we allow ourselves to go down that rabbit hole. So deeply that we think that this is the person that is going to turn this country around, entitled? Direction. That we've already lost and that doesn't mean that shouldn't really prayerfully consider which one to vote for because I think that is a critical thing to do in a democracy that we have like we have to be good citizens. But I would say as a Christian we need to make sure identity is not tied to that political party and that we are like come you know no matter what happens I am voting Democrat or. Republican, because if we do that, we really risk losing our ability to be intellectually honest we lose our ability to hold accountable. Leaders for actions that are completely counter to the Gospel. Message. And we lose our our integrity with others in our lives that might not yet know Jesus, because if we're defending indefensible actions, it's impossible to turn around and say, have you heard about this Jesus? Character? Have you heard about this guy that could change your life when they see so much? Opposite of that in the things that we share on social media in the actions that we defend in the words that we use, and so I think it's so critical this during this election season that we remember who's we are. First and foremost, and then act accordingly. And then try to discern who are GonNa vote for accordingly as well. Now I love all that I loved loved the Joe Biden and and. Little thing they're not our messiah right. I mean last checked they're not no. No. I don't know. I. Haven't read the I read the Bible a few times all the way through I don't read that in there. So that's good. Yeah. So So with that, let's talk about the actual Messiah Right. Yes is Christ the Guy From Nasr? With right was carpenter's son. You know doing all kinds of cool stuff saving saving people you know raising the dead feeding, the five thousand you know. Forgiving the water. Try trying yeah I mean the whole nine, right But I'm wondering about this because I've always struggled with this as a disciple of Jesus. Didn't say Christian there on purpose and I'm not trying to challenge your words of Christian I just. Yeah I just have a hard time with that like I said anyway. political. Your mind was Jesus political. How Man You. Know I think that is such a challenging. Ain't that's such a challenging question because of the fact that. Did Not come. In a time of democracy. And I think this is one of the challenging parts that we have a tendency to do As as disciples of Jesus. You know we have a tendency to want to take things that occurred in events that occurred in a completely different culture completely different context. And then assume that they apply directly the way we'd like them to apply today. and. So I guess what I would say to that is. Jesus. Beyond a shadow of doubt. was. socially. Extremely active. I mean his message when he was on earth was. Care for the poor care for the marginalized. Care for the foreigner carefully he was like when you look at his when you look at his core message when he was young Earth. It was all about like how do we take care of the marginalized in society that was it now we can debate up and down whether or not. That's the rule of government whether through church with us the rules of family whether that's the role of the small town that you live in the big city and so I'm not coming to you saying, Hey, this is therefore this is what this how Jesus would vote to truly I say to you need to vote this way yes. Yes. Oh, you're not saying that no. No. On. And that's the thing that I come back to is that if folks If folks. are going to vote. This is based on their faith if someone says listen. I am I am a follower of Jesus. And that that's that informs how I voted the ballot box I would say, amen, that's fantastic that your faith because your face should be part of everything in your life your face should absolutely be part of how you catch your ballot. However I would say then next. What issues? Exactly in the Bible, where did you go to decide which issues should have precedence over others? Because a lot of times when say My faith, two times I tie vote. I would I would always like to go back to okay. We'll then show me which versus inform your vote like I would like to see that because ultimately in my mind, the thing that the Bible is the most clear on because again, it doesn't say what's the role of government it doesn't like Jesus design. In fact, the one time they tried to corner him and said, Hey, listen like we're going to trap you in making a political statement. Right. Now you looked at the coin and said, are you talking about when he I love that story by the way? So let's help the Non Bible people out here. So they try to trap him I, know this story actually pretty well. So he tried to trap him and they said, Jesus who should we pay taxes to and he said Hamid dairy or Hammy. How many basically hand me a coin and he said whose inscription is on this And they. The crowd chants Caesar's and he said rendered to Caesar. What is Caesar's rendered a God what is God's is that what you're referring to just help help you out. Absolutely, my by the way. No, that's good and so. The one time that they were like we want you to make a definitive statement about the role of government and taxes. He deflected. Inflected he said, Hey, listen I am more concerned about you give guys God's. So he didn't deflect in the sense of answer your question but he said that's not what I'm about like I didn't come here to start a political revolution the way that the the Jew, the Jewish. People thought the Masai coming was going to be a political figure they thought he was to come to to. Create this kingdom on. Earth. and Jesus came was a totally different type missile. He came to to set the captives free to freeze from San to actually create the everlasting kingdom that we could all be part of. The Jewish people weren't that excited about that. They were like, no, no, no we we can't. We want you. We want it now and I think that that parallels what we experienced in America right now is we want it now like we we are so desperate for. For the kingdom to come. were. So desperate for like solution and in there. So many challenges in our world today and we want it. Now the unfortunate part is then we try to into a political party or specifically to find it, and it's something that only Jesus can give. But I'll say this about the Bible is there's a lot of passages about what to look for in a leader. There's lot of passages about what makes a wise king. And so that is the thing that whenever Christians who are somewhat apolitical or even like they're very political come to me and say, so he wrote this book about it. How should I vote and I was like I'm not telling you how to vote in terms of Republican Democrat but I, will say this I would I would absolutely encourage every Christian. To stop being a straight party voter because you have put your identity in party. You have created idol. Instead, I would say, let's go after the individual candidate. Let's actually look at them and say what does the Bible say about integrity and humility, and in all of these characteristics and on the flip side, there's so many verses throughout proverbs and other where it's hey, you know that the pride of a leader you know before and and and. And the type of a words that we use have consequences and over and over again, the Bible talks about how to have how to have the type of leader. That will actually bring glory to these Earthly Kingdoms, and so you know one of the chapters in the book we're talk about and it gets people, upset sometimes. At first when I say this I found that I haven't gotten that pushback as much for people to read the book because they actually have more context why I'm saying this. But when I'm just in casual conversation that I always tell people I would one hundred percent boat person over platform and usually what we hear inside the opposite it's like, Hey, I'm not willing to the person I'm voting for the platform. In the thing is in politics today. They are one and the same. Words matter like words of especially at the presidential level Every level is your words matter and they actually carry real consequences. And I want to make sure that always voting for someone based on their track record their integrity humility they're willing to work with others their willingness to actually look for creative solutions to challenging problems regardless whether Republican. Or Democrat. I voted for both over the last twelve years since I had that shift that went from party affiliation to I wanNA find the best candidates and something I voted for people on both sides. And I'll tell you it's been so much healthier. Neil. Because I no longer have to plug my nose at the actions of one person and then just cast my vote because that's the way I've always voted. In it's made a huge difference. I just WANNA to add to this because I think this is something we say a lot I know I. I've said it maybe you've said it maybe others in your circle or your sphere of set it right? Especially, the last political cycle. I'M GONNA. Vote the lesser of two evils and I feel like right now next week when we go to cast our vote by the way if you're wondering I, don't know how you could forget this but November third is election day so. We're not necessarily doing a political theme here, but it just kinda seemed to coincide with with this cycle that we're on and we wanted to give you some information in obviously given a chance to come on and talk about why it's so important to be informed and I think I think you would agree with that right? We want informed citizens whether you're right left up down left way it doesn't matter. We want people informed. Would you agree with that? Oh hundred percent. Okay. Perfect. So so how do we reconcile that? Personally reconcile that and how you counseling people to reconcile that like right now, I'm going to go cast a vote next week. Yeah and I'm really having to choose the lesser of two evils or if I don't vote for the main candidates, let's say trump in Biden those do we would agree maybe those are the main two candidates. Do. I feel like I'm throwing my vote away. If I cast a vote for someone else how do we reconcile that in your opinion? Absolutely, and that's one of the challenging things I think is, is that that feeling of I'm not thrilled with either one of these candidates and I would tell this is a bit of a side tangents. I won't go too far down it. After this election season out, occur every single one of your listeners to pick up the phone, call your representative and tell them that we need ranked choice voting in this country ranked choice voting is the way that we can break the cycle of the strangle hold onto political parties, and where we have to have this lesser of two evils mindset. It's a beautiful system where you can actually rank first second third. Fourth. You know harming is there are, and then the person with the least votes. If no one has fifty percent gets added the top line if still known as. They take the second last person in redistribute votes to whoever was the second on the list third on the list. It's a great way where you don't feel you're throwaway vote is you can vote for who you truly want, and then your second place person could be the person you're like well, if not that one then I at least we'd rather have the so sidebar but I think it's an important thing. We're never going to break this cycle unless we actually go after the system level issues. Now, we can't do that pronounce Tuesday but I'll tell you what after that I would encourage all the listeners to go in like lobby representative ranked choice voting because that actually could make a difference in already is in place in some states in in primaries so it's not a fringe idea. But I would say that the idea of voting for a lesser of two evils. Is. So I think about the holding a accountable, our elected leaders to their actions to their words to all of these things that that that matter. When Jesus walked into the temple. And he saw the money changers and he saw the sinful behavior happening. there. This. Was the Pharisees season Saturday's Jesus spent. The bulk of his time. If you look at what did you talk about the most while on earth it was caring for the poor caring for the marginalized and it was speaking. Like, really harshly towards authority. Right it was it was talking about like like. Over and over again, what do you hypocrites and he talked very strongly now, if you're thinking about it neal in this is something that I talk about a little bit in the book and one the chapters imagine. Imagine if we had a lesser evils mindset if you're Jesus disciples. And you walk in the temple. And you probably look around and be like. has his, in great. Awesome. Are a lot of you know tough stuff going on here last simple behavior but at least it's not rolling right? Like you know I. Think about butter example maybe it's not Sodom and Gomorrah right? It's not only more it's not. As bad as right. It's not as bad as wearing a duke t shirt, right? I had to go back to that. Yeah. But I think about it and that's not what Jesus did. He went in and turned over tables like he came and said like that that's not enough and so the hard part about politics is that the tables we are most able to turn over are those with which we most closely align like you. If you've always historically voted Republican, you have the best opportunity possible to hold accountable. Republican. Politicians. If you've always voted Democrat you are the one that you go in and voting for Republican because yourself at up or you as a Republican, going vote for the Democrat. has a huge impact. And so often we have a tendency to think that one election cycle is this and I'll be like this four years of domestic policy of okay. What are they going to do on tax rates? WHO's GonNa be assigned to the court, and the reality is that we look at the long arc of history. Neil like the art, not the individual for years. If we as the American people would just demand better. If we would say like, no if if someone is acting so countered everything I believe to be right and good and true that I'm going to vote them out of office whether there are Congressmen or senators president? And going to keep voting them out until eventually. You better, and we actually demand a higher level of integrity and accountability and actually doing what's right for the American people. And I think that's the important part because when we really it with a party, then we ended up just over and over again. Kastner. About the same people and we don't demand a better higher level politics in this country. And so when people say lesser of two evils, I guess, sometimes I think we have a tendency to that's where we throw our hands in the air and almost assume that both sides are so broken so far apart that I might as well just vote how voted. As opposed to actually saying. ARE A How are we talking on somebody because sometimes it's as one or two issues that we disagree on somebody. And on those one or two issues we say based on that alone based on that alone I'm GonNa plug. My, vote for my side I'm going to vote I'm just GonNa vote. Democrat always done at Republicans have always done it based on those couple of issues even if everything else from the candidate that were choosing to support. We can't get behind and so I think that's the most important thing is to recognize that there are there is such a big difference because that both sides ism that I hear frequently uttered in this country and a lot of times in the media you'll hear it where it's like well, both sides. You know. Yeah. There's a ton to be left to be desired on both sides from candidates on both sides. But I think that's where it takes intellectual honesty and that's where it takes actually looking at the true depth of these things because there's a fundamental difference if we said, Hey, we all commit crimes sometimes but if you just jay walk. And I have murdered someone those are fundamentally different. Yeah. Okay. I guess we all commit crimes sometimes and at sometimes I think we think about politics the same way as like they're all crooks I really don't believe that I've actually known some very good politicians that I think operated with a ton of integrity people who actually approach it's the right way and so when we throw up her hands and say everyone's crooked and we try to throw all of these things that swirl around in the media and we treat them as if they're equal when a lot of times they're not, and so I think that's important as well. I love that too is we kind of start to come to the end here which I'm I'm sad to say because I think we're having a great kind of discussion and great education so. First off just just a couple more questions if we can. I. Want to get to this one. I really feel like. Right now, our country I've never been in one but I well, I've been in a country. That's that's what I'm saying but but I've never done one of these never been in a hurricane. never even been close to a hurricane. Bow from what I've seen on the weather channel you know when they always in that reporter out to talk about the hurricane when the hurricanes going on right in the midst of it right? They got their umbrella and they're like Hey I'm here bill weatherly Blah Blah Blah, and the gale I windsor seventy, five miles an hour and guineas getting blown all around right or Susie. Whatever name is right. I don't know I just picked random names but my point is is that they're in the Mrs Hurricane and they're trying to have a conversation. They're trying to inform people what's going on I feel like right now we're in this spiritual. Maybe even hurricane. Political. Storm. We're yelling at the I'm yelling at the top of my lungs sane. Think about another person's point of view. This message empathy which are show obviously centers around right because wearing your shoes wearing your perspective, we wanna get your understanding of things right. But I'm yelling message at the top of my lungs in the midst of a hurricane. Yeah I feel like nobody is hearing me. And I feel like nobody's listening to me. And so how do we? How do we ignore that and continued to? Fight the hurricane or or you know what? I mean follow me on that. Orderly, absolutely. So for starters. I, think you're wrong. And I think that not about hurricane to hurricanes a perfect analogy. One of the most encouraging things. From the moment that the book came out 'cause I was terrified when I published this thing like it's literally okay. The two topics that you try not to talk about is politics and religion and hey, let me just combine them together throw it out there in the middle of the contentious political season and see what happens. And I have been so incredibly encouraged by the feedback of the book because the book is not about the left or the right. It's about identity and it's about Jesus and it's about getting back to like what we're actually here for. And what I found is that. I believe our countries actually starting that message and it's not about like the book. You know listening go by Booker Not by the book I. It's been more time the Bible. Before it's been time in the puck but I would say that it's a matter of us one on one having conversations with people we love. And getting back to Jesus because if you're if you're talking to people about the very real challenges that we face in this country and saying, Hey. Let's let's set aside like our personal. Agenda the policy preference I have on on on whatever it is. But how can we live out the Gospel? Well, how can we love others? As ourselves, how can we bring the love of Jesus to this world broken in polarize place and so the Christians are actually the shining light in the Mrs Hurricane. People, can look at it and say, holy cow, how are you? So calmest of this, however, you like not gain riled up the Mrs Hurricane that were in. What kind of? How do you have that level piece then you're able to point back to Jesus and say listen I I serve someone that is so much greater than any four year span of domestic or international policy. I served someone is all much greater than any any piece of legislation that might pass the next four years. So yeah, I wanNA find good solutions the challenges in our that our country faces I wanna find good solutions these things but more than anything I want leaders. That are not gonNA compromise my ability to go after hearts for Christ, and that is my ultimate goal. As I cast a ballot juice day is I wanna make sure that whoever I vote for. Whoever I I believe in. that. I can spend the next four years talking to people about Jesus and I don't want my vote compromise that and so for me, that's that's my heart gone in the election season. Might my heart is let's let's all calm down. Bet. Let's consciously choose what we take in and what we put out into the world. And let's remember who's we are during this election season and it's not a Democrat is not a Republican you know it is a disciple of Jesus and I think that's the most important thing I. Remember as we go to ballotbox on Tuesday and and somebody the prayer truly consider over the course of of making this decision and afterwards, and afterwards because there's there's a very good chance neil and I think this is one of the hard part is a lot of us want to think that Tuesday is going to be end. Of of this contentious period. It's probably going to be appreciated and couple of months after. Someone. And that's I think that's what I'm most I shouldn't say afraid of or fearful of because we shouldn't be fear and trembling, but it just seems like no matter who wins next day and we may not even know 'til Gosh Thanksgiving who knows Mean it could. It could. We may even go into January you know right before inauguration day with an idea of WHO's our president right I mean it could I hope it doesn't go that far, but it could I mean could. Be Good I I'm not I'm not a I'm not a prophet by any means because I was I would I would be a loser because I pick North Carolina to win the National Championship every year in basketball. So anyway, that doesn't ever happen. Well, it didn't I two thousand nine, but anyway, we keep going back to two, thousand, nine I. Don't know why. This oh so last question that I wanNA play a game with you. That's fun because we WANNA WE WANNA in this but but last question, how can people get the book besides through our web page? What is what is the best way for someone to reach out to if they want to know more about getting more involved and active in that sounds like you're kind of pretty active in that environment? Would you say? Yeah Yeah. No absolutely. Yeah. I would say that if someone wants to go the book on Amazon the Paperback The book I, have intentionally kept the e book at nine nine cents the entire time I don't know I'm making thirty cents. Per copy on it so I just want as many people as possible euler read GonNa pay back even better and then I had on my blog Aaron Schaffer blog DOT COM says A. R. O. N. AN SCHAFER'S S.. C. H. A. F. E. R. Aaron Shafer blog DOT COM. If you want to submit a comment, you can comment right there to the blog generally I, try to log every couple of weeks or so and I love to have this be a dialogue and not simply monologue. So that would be the best way for for folks that are listening to grab a copy of the book on Amazon and and follow it on the blog. In the podcasts you're right I mean Y- Stuff on the podcast as well. Yeah. You know it's interesting. So fertile soil is something that during this whole. I've had like a season one and it was so fun like I I. Really I really enjoyed it, and right now season two is is somewhere in the horizon but there are new episodes being released frequently right now because right now been very focused on the book and the blog during the season and and hopeful that early next year I'll get back into a season two, but he has fertile soil podcast. It is much. It's not local at all like so fertile soil is much more about I would say similar to yours in style of stories from individuals and their walk with Jesus, surrounding specific topics, things that they have struggled with victories they've won, and so it's all very topical that if your listeners enjoyed this episode, then they'll probably enjoy they'll probably enjoy fertile soil. I enjoyed it the to use I enjoyed it I dug it. Wow. Yeah, it's fun doing podcast for those that don't have won. It really is fun so. So, Aaron, thanks for coming on man I really appreciate it and and I just what would be your last bit of advice for us come next. Thursday because I know some states will mail in ballots here in Oregon we do a mail in ballot right? I don't know what you guys do out in Michigan I don't know what you do because I've never been to the midden but but what are you? What would be your advice for for next week for someone out nationally first of all vote like vote your vote matters like dogs like so often I, think that. There's this fear that had just one person. My vote is now but. Then there is so much power in your vote when ever tell you otherwise and then secondly I would say just need to spend time in the word spent time in the Bible don't spend time watching Cable News on either side of the aisle don't spend time consuming nothing but political content spend time in the word and actually prayerfully asking. Jesus what does your words say? About leadership what is your word say about what? I am supposed to to look for in a leader and then go after go after the heart of God go after goes the he's GonNa give advice I will and so just spend time in the words spend time meditating upon God's word and asking. What does your word tell me? About how I should cast my ballot what is your word? Tell me on both the issues and and the person and if you do that prayerfully consider it and then go cast your ballot. Then you'll be able to do it with full confidence knowing that you're actually walking in step with God's will with your vote in your life and not just the the will of whichever side of the aisles political news coverage you happen to lean towards so that would be my biggest advice. Love it love it so much. So So here's our game. We play at the end of every show it's called senseless. I need to show you this. Like. I have a couple of very good friends that if if this video gets posted, they're gonNA enjoy it even more but they'll enjoy just the audio 'cause they're hardcore UNC fans and I never live down. Just us I wish you were here because you could hold it in your hand and hold it in your hand by the way. We of course are lovingly North Carolina Cup fan of the show one day. Maybe we'll get Roy Williams on God willing but anyway so senseless, you do know we have five senses. Just WanNa make sure. Okay. So here's our game senseless going to roll this out for you and you got a number one you can see that they're at that I'm not even lying this time because we have visual proof now. So number one is this What are sorry how do you want others to see you? Oh Man. WHO You know the word, the season life I'm in right now I've the word that God has put on my heart over the last few weeks as advocate. is just really being someone that. Advocates for those that might not have a voice you know advocates for Yeah those that can't advocate for themselves. And and also simultaneously being an advocate for Christ in this broken involved world that we live in Um. So that's that's the word that God put on my heart actually just a little over a week ago. This was a season you know over these next. Two three months of just being a fierce advocate so that that is I would like people to look at me and see me that way as someone that that is advocating for Christ through his life but also advocate for those who maybe can't advocate for themselves. A love that I love the the advocate part because I think right now in our country. We need the chief advocate. Absolutely. Jesus by the way if you're wondering. Does that are were like wait. What does he mean by that chief advocates a candidate I need to know about? Yes. Yes it is. He's a he's running for King of your life. So let that sit on the table second. So Aaron again. Thank you, man. Thank you so much for coming on. Really appreciate it. Absolutely, thanks for having me. This is really fun good. I'm glad I was like it. When people say cool you had a good time even though I kind of trash your team a little bit but. We we moved to pass that like see we didn't let. August down from having a good conversation really, which is what it's all about and so that leads into my final thought guys this. Is Is there something in the way? From you really being able to hear someone's point of view. I want you to know today I did not allow. Errands love affair with Michigan. State to stand in the way of my of me hearing him out that was really important to take away guys is the fact that every time you stop yourself from having a conversation with somebody just because of their political view or just because our. Preference you may be missing out on a great opportunity to make a really good friend. Let me be candid here. Is it doesn't matter. It does not matter what I think. Politically it does not matter what airing things. Politically it doesn't matter what matters is you get educated and you go to the polls next week and make a decision prayerfully consider this. Guy's just ask you this. Remember when you walk in other people's shoes, you really do get a different perspective on life on behalf of executive producer Garrett at myself New Matthews thank you so much for joining us and stay tuned till next week when the walk an people shoes. Thank you so much for joining us on other people's shoes as you know, I'm your host. Neal Matthews. Want to thank our guest wartime Erin for coming on sharing his thoughts with us on the political climate that we're in guys if you're interested in. Checking out his book and learning more about him and what he's a part of I of course, invite you to check out our website opium podcast, dot com click on books we love and up towards the top there, you will see the political homeless Christian and therefore she can click on it and purchase your own copy or of course, check it out on Amazon Dot Com right now for the kindle version is on sale right now he's making that available now through the end of this week and of course, next week being. Elections so guys the other thing I would add just again being good citizens. Vote get educated. Know who you're voting for know why you're voting picture. So as my little PSA on voting Donna. Promised we're not hopefully going to get to political on this show too much but but I did a feeling due to the election and the timeliness of it felt like this episode was something we needed to share with you. So guys thank you for giving us a moments to share that speaking of sharing things. We're going GONNA go out to my favorite neck of the woods maybe because it's kind of in our neighborhood here's a little sneak peek of next week's guest I remember. Wishing, my mom would call an apologize Oh mom just please call please call. She didn't call and a member sleeping under my. Bed At my dad's house like I was scared and I never had like stuffed animals around me under the bed and thinking mom please call and I remember that freshman. Freshman. Me Saying I will never let her. Do this to me again you know like I was so vulnerable and she never reached out and. She called me five days letter in later and said, that is why we're going out to the great northwest. I'm super excited to sit with a full podcast or friend of mine fan of the show meg listener and meg is talking to us not only about letters from home and what that's involving but her what happened when? Guys I'm GonNa tell you. It is a heart wrenching. What happened when? So stay tuned for that? 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Walk The Red Carpet

Woman Evolve with Sarah Jakes Roberts

1:00:15 hr | 1 year ago

Walk The Red Carpet

"So do you have one of those friends that has just senior life go from to God is so good? That is who Jason Boland is to me and we are going to sit down and Chat WanNa talk about the lessons that we're learning in life and through quarantine of course. He's going to drop some nuggets. That I think are going to help you on your journey. Maybe you are in entrepreneur. Maybe you're trying to find what feels authentic to you in a world. That doesn't necessarily understand your unique gifting and anointing. Maybe you just need to let people in. He's going to talk a lot about what he's learning in this season what he's learning about himself and. I think it's going to help those of us who call ourselves those strong friends. Who may be wonder if he have any friends but also are challenged with the notion? That may be the leading. People can't wait for you to check this out there. You go how are you? I'm great? That was a struggle struggle booming every day of the week and senior by today on the way of life. Now it is the way of vice up. You don't understand it then daddy with you thank you. She just put this one this trying to work my baby here. How is your life? What is that in the days of quarantine I mean? Honestly I'm I mean I'm really trying to keep it moving. I think like the first like maybe three weeks. I was like down on our trying to figure out how you know what I mean. Just just try and take it all in honestly what the world is going to be like. What's next and Honestly I've been feeling like making sure that I'm spending time with the baby I already. I already said this before. The court team happened that I want to slow down from like travelling so much with styling like literally just focused on Shop Day. Bolan and focused on the baby shot. They will be my way of generating income and then I could build that brand even more and then be able to go home to soccer games and also be at home with the baby Especially in the beginning of the baby five so I've been a great help and former I've been a fabulous father and you can't you know you're not actually able to say that your wife can say but you saying it loses a little bit of power. But how do you think because your shirts is six two handsome arts? What is happening in quarantine where most people are laying low? You have turned up affirmation like you have to build yourself up. Might nobody else's run his saying six to me. The Baby Bob. This is she can be reminded of who you are from day to day onto the activists walking the house. He saw me with this on. He was like Oh. You're kidding no thinking. Oh It's you to read this and remind you that you got a month sometimes. Are you with the baby and ninety honest I have not Septa past per night? The baby has colic now switching over the ball. It's not the formula milk and my wife always the mill. And I like I think thirty I just need our you know what I mean. I'm literally just hopping up. And they crazy thing. Is that every time the baby. Make the noise I consciously jump up and I don't know what it is. I'm not fearful of everything happening for the baby is just that. I just want to always make sure that everything is great and just know that that is here is. It's the craziest thing I'm like. I haven't been a baby a baby before daddy and Bob Years so it's pretty fresh and new for me to be like hopping by the bed in the middle of the night waking up so I know every episode of every movie every show. I am a rocking chair without a rocking chair sitting in my bed. I find myself by the big anywhere and just rocking in the house. And don't even have the baby is but you're used to getting sleep. You're the hardest working man in fashion bottom line bottom line. I don't think so you Jason. How do you not think that I see so? Many people pushing out amazing things in the fashion market. And I'm always like I'm I never liked compare myself anymore. I have been to that at that stage where you compare yourself and all that and now I just try to move at my own pace but I see people that have developed. I guess I'm equating hardworking with With a bigger success than there. Maybe that's what I'm doing but I appreciate you saying that anybody to get a letter that says working men in the industry made me think that six better than yeah. We'll just added to the shirt. Maybe you think that success is about visibility too though that's very true that's very okay. Great Point I definitely will say that. I probably have equated that with Biz ability like what on people that are seeing. Because you know you see like your colleagues in the market and they're aren't television or they're on you know like on the Good Morning America shows and all that kind of stuff and you're like okay and keep working hard one day. It'll happen for you as you're working hard to get to those times you know what I mean. I know that happened in due time. I'm not rushing at all but like you say I. I do work hard but the hardest. You're one of the hardest working one big to follow. But but I think you also have to imagine challenged myself with this. Is that like people. I think a lot of the people who look at or maybe who. You're looking at pulled themselves in one direction and really dedicated all of themselves to that one direction and so every piece of momentum that they had was channelled towards one thing but because you are multidimensional that means that have styling you have shop Jay. Boland you have speaking. You have the events that you do as well and those little undercover businesses that you're doing that no one knows that you're actually behind so many things that they see on social media so like you. My Dad always says like he's Campbell soup like Campbell. Soup is different like the person who makes the soup is not a soup but I am the soup and can and I think that you are the soup and the can so you don't even have time to do the stuff that would allow you that level of visibility because you have so many different businesses and things that you're running arts up there. I never broke it down there. Well four he hasn't made me break it down that much me to get on the of all talked out. We break it down for me like that but I accept that I do accept that because sometimes I think I mean. That's a big part of you started looking at what's around you and you start equating that with is that. Am I working hard enough in my not working hard enough so that'd be giving more should I not be sleeping are feeling guilty when you do sleep or guilty when you are spending too much time with the family now but the point where I feel like I'm there are some guilty moments? Now where my my spending too much time with the family? That's GonNa be hard like my son goes upstairs. I'm like what are you doing bud down you know? And and when he comes down town like that like I have to do like this is a school day like how to do and you should have worked to find that balance of all of that. But you know sometimes. I wonder when you go as much as you go. 'cause you go harder than I do and when you go as much as you do I think that what I challenge myself with is recognizing that like hustle is kind of like what I am in nightly created to do like owl. Find something when I'm at home like at my team calls me or text me and they're like what are you doing? I know you're up to something because they know even when I'm home that I am doing something to your point. It might just be rockin up with the baby but you're not you were not created this. Just sit down and be steel and so I think in those moments stillness. It feels unnatural. Because it's not how you're wired but you also need balance and I've been thinking for a long time how much balance you need and I mean to get on this podcast and read you. But now that we're here let me put my glasses on you. You are constantly on the road. Anyone who follows you on instagram? Know that you are plane to plane flight to flight photo. Shoot to photo. Shoot secret thing to secret thing who am I. Styling next one. Am I doing now and so I think as uncomfortable as it is that you do need to have a minute to really recenter recreate regenerate so that you're more intentional about what you do out of this season and and to be honest. I've literally death had a meeting with my teams. Cpa everybody out her by down and said okay. I want to talk about where I want to be. Not a nick five years but in the next few months I WANNA know. I would have been the next month and that was on my listeners. Kind of like God heard my prayers and for it on in our nation and get aware and sit still and get focus and And there's a way fifth before 'cause they're the way to grind and there's a way to be family oriented and to get myself editor. I've learned so much about myself and the past few weeks. It's been insane greatest lessons you've learned about yourself. Relationship sat at same way I not good with relationships. They're like I'm I have always battle with like not texting people back not become like the like. I'm with you and so you say like let's hang out. I am cool with you and so you say let's do something or like well. It starts to get to coast and to like Lovey Dovey. Or like. I'm like I'm really your friend. I backed off in the past and that so much. Even with my clients and friends and Industry colleagues like eating with people on you. Sit Now you WanNa talk about it. Let's talk about and days in new. I'm just glad but you know what a so I will say this. It's sitting be this way but it has been in the past. It's been in the past because there were moments that I was hurt By putting myself in situations I put myself situations with friends with With colleagues and also with clients that were positioned that I didn't know how to balance Friendship I didn't know how to balance The work relationship. I know how to balance it so like when I'm in I'm all in mostly and so in reality I was all in because I was really living my life possibly through those people and live like in their world and not really bringing anything to the table right now. I have the table. It's not even anything about my credentials are career but I have more substance to have more about me than I'm able to bring to the table confidently now that I can. You know face these things right but in the past. I've been afraid of it because it's been hurtful you put your heart on the line and it gets hurt. It's hard to kind of come back in and say guess what the woman is healed and I'm back is hurting once again. And so that's you can't say back to be hurt. Said it again now. Back to be hurt Sam. I'm open now and I had to learn that during this for things because I honestly that's why I felt before fourteen and I realized I was like not giving relationship so I was like I really needs to do better with like there are people who I love and I should be okay with loving them. Unconditionally are there are people that I care about. I think that there's wisdom through it all. You know what I mean on on like hanging out to hang out with him not to go to the bar and have drinks all the time. I know that I'm not that guy. I've accepted that I'm supposed to be different areas but there are certain moments that able with people that I know that love me to death that I still from a wall up because of might. I don't want anything to happen. I WANNA protect. I WanNa protect what seems to be by not having a real relationship. Oh that's good and that's something that a lot of people struggle with I mean I'm thinking now because even when you had the baby I can remember like pressing in and you kind of math. Anything I was like. I won't say not couldn't ask about the baby anymore. Okay so okay. So here's the thing I think you You have broken that wall down because like you'll check you'll say you'll read me about take back you know like what's up. What are you doing? I picture you already owe you. La Oh you had L. A. So there are people that. I have that back then. Safe things to me and it doesn't come off the. I don't take it the wrong way at all because I know we have back in history so it's like whatever her whatever we've been through in the past like those women for healed. They went hill organic. It wasn't something that arts arrears did. That wasn't something that a therapist did they. They happened from the organic so I can. I feel safe. You know I feel safe. I could trust but then there are other relationships by I. I keep the wall of so now moving forward into our future. I said I'm going to do better. I'M GONNA TAKE BACK. I'm GonNa Community better and I'm going to be open. I'm going to be open. We'll get back to this podcast but I a message from our sponsors. Today's podcast is brought to you by better help sometimes a weekend. Become content. Living in discontentment. If you've ever wondered to yourself I wonder if I should consider therapy. The answer is yes. 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I don't know I mean you share your story on social media but I don't know that we fully understand how far this is from where you are supposed to be where you had not if you wouldn't I have followed your gut and what was inside of you. In spite of the fact that there was no one around you. Where would you be right now? College President Raylene President. Like I before all of this. I was Seeking opportunities than becoming a college president. So I want to go and get my masters and they're going to get my my doctorate and I have no idea why wants to be a college president like I have. No idea would say you And I was on. I was the freshman class president. Softball-size going on your president and vice president so there was always the inference level of making sure that the school was good students were good they should thing for always fight on the up and up and party. Poppins you know so. I've always had like that in my head And I probably wouldn't be as competent as a person as I am now like that would still be me hiding. I would probably still be hiding behind. the insecure little boy from From Roxie Mississippi. Who really just didn't know what they accept. You know I was just the other day all had losses you know it was either go outside and take the grains and suckers calling before I get home. I make sure that my my doctor freezer if I get home or either you're gonNA cut grass. It's like either to and if you're talented. You may get a chance to play sports. Because that's really the only town a boy supposed to have and so I literally held onto that my entire life and of course I did not taking any anymore. I'm not sucking corn. You know Second Corn Right now they do that new powers I I get behind those insecurities for quite some time and just I became class president because I wanted to be known for something I became A AFFILIATED WITH S G. A and school because I want somebody to see me something off the deep behind that. I wasn't a good president. I wasn't a good class at all but but it worked for me so I went back to my room. I had something to say. Well how I'm a class president and they liked me. You know what I mean. What was the point though so there had to been this defining moment where you said you said that you would still be in hiding. Had you not taken that step of faith in really decided to I spoke to Aaron Simone and she talks about betting on yourself. Was there like this definitive moment. Where you said. I'M NOT GONNA hide. I mean I think that this. I think that the industry that I've been is is as a battlefield itself so I want you get into this industry. It is put your boxing gloves on. Because you're going to be boxing and fighting and I mean so. It's an Atar Warsaw every corner that I went in. I have to be like I feel like people were being stripped away every single step away so I don't believe that there was a a one moment that things change. I believe that as are grown over the years I believe that there's like onion like layers and layers and layers and the as a onion. We all know onions. Make your crime so there were tears. Every layer that with feel though the here that came with it And so and now. I'm still filling later admitted to relationship. You know what I mean. You would think like people think because I'm a nice guy that I probably have a million relationships in day of cool what everybody about Blah and it's like Jason Homes on figure out like do. I have friends. People buy something like this moment now. We always say if something happened. Hookah we call on. Well we're in a moment now by. We HAVE TO FIGURE OUT. Who are the people that we can follow on on earth? Who are the people that we can call on us and so yes so just to answer your question I it? It took years of on myself years and now I can better myself for sure but I had feel like a lot of layers north to do that. Plan involuntarily the layers were peel back because of situations what she said about like that. Do I have any friends still call. I think is really worth digging into. Because so many people against so many. Dm So many letters from people who were like. I'm there for everyone else. No one checks on me. No one asked me. Do I need anything? I'm always the one. Everyone calls for prayer but when I need prayer to call and I wonder how much of that is like. You don't have anyone to call or you haven't opened up so that you do have someone to call because I have found that the people who come to was generally are willing to serve in the same manner but we don't let our walls down to let them know that we are in need. And then we penalize the people around us for not serving a need that we didn't communicate. Listen well you just read for me because that is so true like I know that there are people around me that like. I said that they care. Are People around me that care but then But I think people that that that have the people that got people that can that. That can help me when I say helped me. What if I need financial help? What if I need you know too much pride to ask for it because you know if you needed anything I would help you and I feel the same way for you but I would never ask and neither nine them? No no no great. Great Point that I remember Are going to pick up something for years ago and you hounded me about gaffe money. I told you that I take care of it. It's fine you know you're going to get this gas money and it wasn't fight. You're going to get the gas money because I want you to have the money there was. You'RE GONNA get the gas money that you're never gonNA be able to hold gas money over my head. So because they're the they're the difference. There's a difference in. I want you to have the money I care about your finance. And then there's another level of it at all. You didn't think you read on your nine year home moving onto the next question but there was. There was a different in the difference. When we're doing that. Now there are moments where like I have to tell my wife like. Make sure that whatever you're giving somebody or you're doing one and so if you might dollar she's like I give them dollar. I don't want I don't want to say that we owe them a dollar blah blah blah. I'm like that comes from a very defensive play because my bare depends plays and reality that person's like I. I really wanted to give me that dollar like I like. There's nothing no. There's no motive behind the dollar. But in I have like I get your dollars. You keep a dollar bill. You know why because we've had people hold a dollar over ahead before when they ready to leave they'd be like I did this for you. I did Dan for you. And you know you never be able to say you did nothing for me to take that in everything you came in here with and that's a problem that we can grow any Volvo from. Thank you for showing me how I was lost. I have now been found moving on now. I think to your point though understanding your patterns but I think it's more than your patterns. It's like understanding the patterns your insecurities creative versus the highest version of yourself. And I've had so many patterns that I know like my insecurities my pain. My trauma created his way of communicating. This way of loving this way of showing up in a relationship and I do think that we're all on a journey of taken that version of ourselves that we create it to survive in the world and bringing them into the truth of the fact that you survived the too can live and I do think when we end up living in survival mode that we end at really missing out on the joy of being president. Because we're always looking for how we're going to lose or how we could possibly lose and we never see that we've won and I start doing that. I started looking for the green flags and people versus direct line. More always looking for the red flags like what's wrong with them. Who sent you? It's always the WHO sent you backdoor. Who why are you here? You know what I mean. What are you want somebody direct message? I'm already like Straw. I'm not going to open this message up. I thought what them to see the message up in the message sometimes to says the nicest thing they could just do my thing. You know what I have for you today. I WanNa make sure that your business farther than that. You're doing great and that your family doing great and I'm looking at it as well and I don't know why we're like that like we the love but Hupa we will do. Let SOMEBODY MESSAGE. And they reading us in. Are you going to get the spire? Matt? I'M GONNA to accept for that. You can see that I seen it. Yeah and then. I'm going to send you a message back. I have no idea while we run to the moment of having prove ourselves versus receiving the love where people don't care about the at all. Do you think it's because we have an insecurity that the that good stuff that they're saying may or may not be true or because we feel inadequate to what they're saying those voices that we ended up responding to our echoes of something that exists that on the inside of us. And so you tell them what we don't have the courage to say to our own insecurities and then the highlight makes us feel like. Oh I wonder if I can keep this up. I wonder if I can continue to do this. So we don't WanNA receive that because receiving that may mean that. I have to embrace the fact that I actually am born to do this. That I actually do it well and that there is you know a purpose and destiny connected to my life. I think that might be at least from me. I think that's part of the reason and so I have this encouragement folder. Now when someone sends me something like Super Resonates with me a screen shot and put it in my albums because I think that went into this with so many questions that went into this with so many questions about whether or not I was good enough whether or not ahead what it takes and then like you know my speak well you you've been here so you know that like I went from like all I'm not really speaker. I just do panels to speak a little bit. And there'd be a keynote somewhere to like. Now you know I've really tapped into what I believe. God has called me to do and I'm able to deliver what I believe. Got saying to me in a way that is more impactful than I think Or at least impactful in a different way but I think I question all along the way like it. Did I say it the right way? Was it eloquent? Messed the scripture up. Did I miss the PRONUNCIA pronunciations up? So when someone says something to me and they're like oh you messed that up. I'm like well. You should get out there and try to you. Know what I mean. I'm defensive because they echoed something that existed in me and then when they say you did well you kinda shrug it off. Because you're still questioning who you are within that apple yet. So that Echo. I'm talking about like I have like that but Teddy Riley for the second time. It's the truth I I am definitely a working on accepting the love accepting and that's great to have that encouragement folder. That's encouraging me. To get those messages to put them aside because we do need those days in those moments that we want to go back and read something. Nice when we're trying to figure out Even sometimes people said affirmation so sometimes we're only going to hear from God. I just WanNa know what God Sanders God. You said. There's been a hug from that. I said something. Nice through that person for looking for all of the biblical promises that he said. Sometimes he's sending you know Holy Spirit one that it's just whispered your ear with three a DM of the understand. That technology has been used the way to think of being used back in. The bill of this podcast is brought to you by skill. She if you've decided that you want to spend this time truly learning to perfect or gaining new skill but don't even know where to begin. I want to tell you about skill. Share skill share is an online learning community with thousands of amazing classes covering dozens of created an entrepreneurial skills you can take classes in everything from photography in creative writing to design productivity and more. They've even got classes for kids. I can't wait for Mackenzie to exercise her mind and creativity this summer with classes that she can do safely at home. Connect through creativity for those. You can't see in person. 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Are you know still trying to find our way and being confident in what we do that part of the reason why I think we never get to this place a full confidence and while we're always reaching ahead is because we keep trying new things and trying new things make you volunteer and trying new things reveal where your issues and your struggles and your weaknesses are and so? There's this juxtaposition between Akkad. Stay doing what I know. I do well and continue to live off of the high of knowing executed on this level or take this idea and try to do it even if it means shaking up my stability this is the problem is that we keep signing up to have our identity shaking up and you don't go from. Glory to Glory. Unless you're willing to let go of who wants word to manifest are now you keep trying new things like Jason? Boland tries new stuff all of the time. He tries new things and fashion. He tries new things with the store. He tries new things with Montoya. You are all about trying new things and trying new and I think this is good for someone who's listening is because you think that when we try new things we do it with confidence because it executes well but the truth is that we try new things shaking in our boots. Sometimes we're taking boots and then we're like still embarrassed on the back end. Then I've embarrassed myself okay like I literally like I'm all things home interior style. I love any any piece of authorities to be style right so here. I am okay. I would have something new. More accurate are examples. One example is that I started a home interior collection and I started a whole on. I saw the jay-paul home selection was so excited so thrilled and I are the marketing Ford. I rented beautiful home and A heck commercials done everything for the Campbell's and sold three. I'm both three literally. I thought three three council. That's all right. That's all right promoted. I wanted people to know what I was doing. I wanted to watch over ever. Everybody kept coming. I got you. I can't wait. I'm so excited. I'm so thrilled. They know that the man recounts and so it really it. It puts me right in the stomach so hard that I then I started to doubt the home side for me. I started to back away from it and I'll put it out everything. I use all the pillows. All the good stuff are literally put five because was like maybe it's not time for. Maybe people aren't ready for have or just maybe that's not meant for me to actually do still discover what that is. I'm GonNa like now in this very moment. Might pick up the pieces wherever you felt like is belt. Wherever you you've felt that is just a learning zone for you so you have to ground and Lawrence because what you thought they bowling. Is that your desk? Fashion Fan GonNa put you in a position because the low following on social media. You felt like you were entitled to people buying from you and for people to take this other journey with you and people like yeah. No I'm good. I got you know and so now the place now Mike Okay. I'm going to pick up the pieces and I'm going to learn all over again next month. It's fashion week. I've been extremely vulnerable with right now. I've never told this story to anybody. Daschle Week Automotive Facile weekend I had a lady completely out you hear me. I had the top stores in the city as a part of it from Gucci Product. Defend the all these stores. We're going to be a part of forty five ten all of the war so racially said Jay even it. All these places were well the sponsor and be a part of this and things shifted the night that I put everybody they wanted to come. Everybody I'm coming in fashion. Show that fashion week. We've been wanting to have one and guess what guys only one person by the ticket. Only one person tickets so for those people that see the hard work you put into something and they still don't know on the back end sometimes everything of what you see. Everything glitters goal. It's hard work so I have to do. Now is what I learnt keeps me because whatever it is that I'm not getting from this. I want your teeth because you came business business. Come from me like you gave us so. Teach me what I'm supposed to learn this and God says you need to plan and you need to lay things out. They'd be more strategic and be more intentional about what you do. Your vision doesn't mean that it has happened some all. I'll goodness that's a word within finis cell and so it checked me because sometimes feel like it feels like well. We get a business. It's Hashtag on demand like you better get it done. You'd better get that now because you know like the old scores will tell us what you don't if you that gift that God gave you. He'll take it away and that little things stick in my head every time I gonNA digital. It's like you better move on to move on it. You better move on from somebody else hop on and do it in reality. It sounds like it's like I want you to do it when I when I give. You the vision. I want to start planning to start planning you. Wash the doors opened up insanely so that's where I am now had to learn from those two racing. Those are two big muscles in my life and my career for fashion week to home interior. So I started the website up so you can always go and look at the website that is dope. Abbas the dead. You know from jay-paul past week to my holiday home collection and I mean they're just sitting there dormant like nothing happening over there at all but their the part of my business that is thriving in the shop table and where I'm putting majority of my time and where you put majeure good time is really where things for normally for. You'll start the something from wish you'll learn things from fruit and so I put a lot of time and soon South they bowl and as of lately and I see growing C. BUILDING. I see it moving on to the next to mention then. I'm excited about that. And those other things I gotta give the planning. Everything say finding it's already forest sizing every piece of the way. Because how do you feel therapy? Because if you're south at a lot like I know people are talented at a million things. But then God gives you a visit one day to beat but be a chef the next day you have a little out of business to start a podcast. The next day and maybe writing a book. And you're just like okay. Then let me find my. Let me find my book publishers. Let me find my debate. Companies are really use. Let me find you know all these things. It's kind of all of them. Are running through your head. How do you balance and even though which one do I which way you're supposed to be doing now Lord or you break down and do them and law little pieces and of part time time and get them all the time? I try to start with what I know I can do consistently like my thing is like what can I do consistently and I don't really give up on things unless I'd read them consistently and if I give up. I don't necessarily attribute it to my failure unless I did it consistently so my thing is if God gives me something and I work at it consistently and it doesn't work out then that wasn't meant for it to pop off the way that it was supposed to but I feel like if God gives me an idea and I don't really throw all of myself Atta an fails then that doesn't necessarily mean that God wasn't on it. It just means that I didn't do it consistently I think. Even with the woman evolves store you know which was a side thing for me which means that I really wasn't prepared to give it a level of consistency that it would require for it to be a stand alone business entity so what I had to really learn like this is not a side. Hustle like the stores someone's full-time job. Like sometimes we WANNA side hustle that is literally people's full-time job. So like your side. Hustle is going to require some level of full-time attention fulltime creativity. If you can't do it you may. It became do what you may need to hire it. But you can't keep asking God. Why does this have an overflow blessing when it's only got part time attention and so I? Okay all righty. Then we mean I mean part time and I do mean part time I mean not not even thirty hours. I mean part when I can I will and so I think what I've learned to do is to know that anything I don't really give support won't stand up and I think that when God gives me an idea I think about. This is what I learned pretty early on. This woman evolved taught me that I have to plan for it to be successful. I think a lot of times we plan for it to just get off the ground and that's all it does is get off the ground but this is going to be successful. What are the ingredients for success not startup because there is a different structure that you create when it's like I want this to be sustainable? As opposed to just want this to have a dope Debut and so that is really helped me because when I did the storm I was just doing stuff and I was like. I'm going to see store and I bought the clothes and I posted the pictures. And that was it at an organized the inventory. I didn't know how we were going to fulfill orders. I just wasn't planning on it being like a big thing. And then we got like thirty orders and Abbas like all my gosh. How do I know where the large is our had one hour this? How am I using ship station? Or how do I mail these things out like it'd be at it and plan for it to be successful and I'm thinking about when Oprah received Seriously like a lifetime achievement award at the Golden Globes and she was so poised and so like not surprised that she was there that I was like. That's the goal is to put in so much work so much ever effort so much consistency that when you are acknowledged for your work it's not like. Oh my gosh. I can't believe you guys mom's but your output in the work so I'm not surprised that this is something that led me to where I am right now. I think if we could stop being surprised by the blessings God has promised us when we are obedient to his word than we could plan a lot better. Do you feel like it's possible to To be to be given your all to a gift and Well how do you feel about if you have a gift and you don't actually enjoy it or you have like like you said by? Make sure you're giving that particular thing you're all in a in a lot of your time full-time action. Do you think it's possible to have the gift that you enjoy that gift for showing but I don't think it's possible for you to have a calling in that have fulfillment in that calling. So I think a lot of times like your gift in your calling or two different things I can cook like. That's a gift right that I can. But that's not necessarily something that wakes me up in the morning and makes me excited where I want to averaged about this a couple of weeks ago. I talked about our purpose being connected to our passion and our passion is what we're willing to suffer for if you're not willing to suffer for your gift and that's not going to be a part of your purpose your purpose is going to be what you're willing to suffer for what you're willing to get on the cross for and so yeah. I mean there are a lot of people who are like. I'm gifted as singing. But what I'm passionate about his preaching. You know what I mean. And sometimes we abuse people's gift and force them into their gifts and they end up missing out on their purpose and they're calling because we told them you're gifted here you should do that and and I'm guilty of that like I like. I have people on my team and you can have the right people but in the wrong position and so like I literally will tell them. Oh my God. You're so good with words of macgyver so good with styling. It's like a reality. This person may not be meant this style at all. They may be good at it but that may not be. They're calling him it. I'd be lying because I find that like I have someone now that on the team and she does things extremely well and her song like. I'm like okay you do this. Oh well like you can call Your Company. This you can make sense. It can do this. We're talking about all these ideas and then by research just a message like hey. I'm no longer accepting off so you can stop sending referrals over to me for that. Because I'm I'm not accepting any more job. The might what the heck is wrong. Why don't you want that? It's like I'm not happy there and I was trying to figure out how argue gifted at one area and not happy to be doing it but you just said if you're not willing to suffer an island Saturday do not suffer for. I can't force somebody into something and I said for anybody. That's anything but you know you're in a creative zone making kind of deep thinking all. These kids are everywhere point in different idea. The banged out and a reality. People have different. Podcast is brought to you by ship station. If you've been considering starting a t shirt line online boutique or anything. That requires you to fulfill orders. Online I wanNA share a must have tool with you. That will help make life so much. Easier ship station helps you get orders out quickly. 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Click on the microphone at the top of the homepage and type in evolve. That ships stationed dot com and enter code evolve. Do think it's important to the that we make sure people know that suffering as a part of the process because if you think that you have to enjoy it every step of the way in order for it to be rewarding you're gonna be really disappointed that moments you encountered suffering. That's why I was like. What are you willing to suffer for because you are going to have to suffer? Is this GONNA be worthless suffering? I feel sorry for people who trail behind you I. They'd be coming in the house and they'd be looking tired like we just got off the plane at five o'clock in the morning he had a sitting outside the store way on it to open. He got the CAR Uber instead of the regular black. I mean they'd be looking exhausted and you have to be passionate about that thing. We go to dinner. He ordered McDonald's. I wanted to have steak dinner. I in eight in six months time. I have a smoothie like you have to be willing to suffer. They think the styling is all about their pictures and being around people who have influence working. Actually Jason Bowlin is is. It's tough now is tough. I realize now that stuff. I realized now that we're trying to offer them taking cookies for reason. Like y'all want some water. Y'All hungry 'cause I never they're looking at me like I'm the parents accident so pets nothing though say says by the like. I'm the person and the reality. I'm I'm not that person but I sometimes as a leader you want people to To go in certain areas and do things the right way. Is that the way that you learn and a reality that every everything going to be different for everything a person so I can share pieces of wisdom but I can't force them not to like I use it to be quiet. Aren't that like you get upset at. Porton to like. Be Quiet and don't talk as much and don't don't say as much and so like Say Prince going by Assistant. My Assistant Garcia thing is an amazing speaker. She's a see here some God all the time. And she's always by say something knowing not say something on his right overstep my boundaries and the point now where it's about partnership and I understand that dark with people around me like I this Ministry for me as much as part of as much to run from it. This is Margot this is my lane of of Minister. Right now and who knows you know where things will go in the future but literally if she's when she's around the Oakland around me I shouldn't hold back the voice of by telling in her be quiet. Don't say nothing. You know what I mean. Now I'm learning to open up Sarah and let people be themselves in the part and as so more personality in a respectful way. Because when you're at work you know it's not about the person you know and sometimes that's come from in the past you have working with you around your under you than everybody wants to be the Shining Star and a reality. The only founding star should be the clients and so that's really what I'm really want people to know. Is that what we do is help people? We'd love to see people shine and we want we want that. I feel like that in that moment because it's selfish youth like this every other day of your life and then you also want to feel like this around the fire as well. My so at least give that forty five minutes. And you digress and let that person signed for that moment so that's what I'm teaching in this moment now. I'm learning a lot. Well I think to your point though. Having a team is not that different from parenting because every child or every team member needs something different and one team member who may have ruined it. When that being in a client's home may now have rules. That other team members didn't necessarily need and that's why having a team is really about being patient because every team members going to need support and guidance in a different way. And so it's not like you got you have this universal set of rules that supposed to make work for everyone but rather being sensitive enough to see like where is this person's strength where the areas where they have opportunities for growth. And how can we really help to build an environment that supports those places now? The market is sought of criminal formula. And have everybody follow so I find it interesting to break down that wall of what you're taught in business you know when you're reading business books it's like a lot. Even the business books on the to the the number one role is to make sure that that any team members our friends. None of them become friends. Make sure you keep them as enemies of one for you. Keep the far like not necessarily enemies or make sure that they're like in competition I had all And so interesting to hear from the from a spiritual perspective to say you know what be patient and and really mold. Each person individually person coming up with one strict formula and making everybody abide by. Because of what I mean Peter. Needed something I'm thinking about. Jesus training up the disciples. Peter Nita something different than John. Johnny did something different than Simon. So like and that's why man running a business is not for the faint of heart especially when you're running a business ultimately kingdom is because even if it doesn't work out it's important to me that your soul is in tackling you leave this position and I don't WanNa do anything that leaves you more damage than you are when you came in here. Yeah well Jay go wrong with data. Can you sing out? Can you sing us a song before you own by Jason? Don't act like you can't Utah. Gifts don't act like you can't care you to gifts that some that we just don't enjoy what is your Song Mris. And what are you at least listening to all my God Kerio go live last time black. The bus thing takes me completely out of here then they take out of here because now I'm building families Barbara Family and I'm thinking about what I'm building you know that goes beyond just somebody's profit. I'm building building more than someone's father like. You're helping her family of building things for your children's towards the end so that means a lot to me Listening to One La La. They have this on literally when I was there when there was actually recorded and I've felt loved in and sometimes it's really for your home for the first time you really don't know how to really get into. It is really different when everybody around. You do you like by. How's everybody notice on and everybody was like in the moment and funding it and I said like Pierce through my soul. So that's another great song and I'm getting into This is Dr Paul. Mike Big Mike. Well I think you you sent me this Song Pastor Mike or something. Yeah Ratchet on it you like that. Got A little trap. No I liked that so he he definitely has some really groovy songs on there and Coby may not be for the most thing. Say Guys but it's definitely a and some dope stuff on his out and so I think that I think listening to that from pop so the bottle. The guy's brilliant. He's a masterminded and music and articulating things that he's hearing from God. It's insane planned. So that's not those music crosses right now but what I do those that you haven't been updating our lately because we have a I There and you have updated in a minute because I used to get on. It'd be like wait a minute. Wait install any this engine new link though I got you. I got mixed feelings about it. I got you t our right all right. I see what happen here. I Love You. Thank you for doing with me. No problem is I love it I would like. I am all zoomed and then podcast mentality out. You always bring something refreshing to the table and always so easy to talk to you and you do that through you to you. Do that through faith faith. You do that through zone. You do that through all avenues. That may your soul anointing. You're so good at at being a bit being so relatable and caring and even if even if you don't care about me dog onto a good song and making me and my family feel that way and we'd love you for that and I thank you for that not only for myself but for my for my team for my family. My Wife my wife and my son. My son thinks that you are like literally like. You're his fiancee. No I thought there like damn fiance anytime you see on television and things like he'll say he'll say by Hollywood on Youtube. Those Hollywood biggest homes. He always brings me like houses. They ain't that the Sarah Thompson bad out that I saw her outfit on the Youtube. Did you do that I like? He did for the point now where he's like understanding people that are really close to me and what they mean to me so like he can hear and see all these moments and one more thing so. I had a moment last night and I was watching the first moment of America. The first cycle of America's next top model Do you know how insane that was to wash that because when I first started watching American homeless and now I picked tyra baked in the middle of watching it and said hey guess what. I'm watching like what I said. I'm watching the first cycle of America's next top model and she was like. Oh my God like that. So it's like it's so embarrassing so we laughed about or whatever and I said. Can you believe that when this when this came out I was homers? She was like get. Outta here and I said so. The only way that I was able to watch you on television when I went to my mother-in-law's house on my mom and they never even knew we were home at that time. So we were hiding my and so I was only able to watch it when I was over there. Text are now and hopefully that helps somebody on that listening is that I was able to watch and remember a moment that I had dear. Oh and now maple to Tulsa the mastermind. I looked up to that. I want that I wanted to be like are. There was something about that person that made me want to be a better. Person Watch. Tv At that time and so now available to tax and just have a conversation about it and Honestly to hear her say so. Power is so great. You know what I mean those moments really matter. So hopefully that's cards for somebody and you're quarantine time. I'm no longer. We're no longer call corentin found. We're GONNA call it. Follow the rounds. Well forty five families quality business quality pamphlet guide. So we're just GONNA change perspective with quality guys. Thank you for changing our perspective. This is going to help a lot of people Brett. I'm grateful me knock Rahman on. Don't you ever be okay? You have a friend. I love you alice by there. You have it. That's me with my friend. Jason Ball and that last part that full circle moment that he had watching America's next top model and then being able to literally textile advance is testament man just for his life but for yours to that one we keep living. Keep believing jeep trusting. There is a full circle moment waiting for us. I don't know what's themes undone in your mind. What memories still are with you that you're wondering if God will ever complete them or give you vision that makes you have piece where you once had but I hope that served as a reminder that God sees you got knows you and it might be ten years? That may not happen. What the very next day may take some time. But he's not a man that he show lie. You keep hanging in there. We love you got more inspiration more. Love more grace to share with you right here at. The warm evolved podcast.

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