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"And then we mentioned Vlad. Hunyadi, of course, is very interesting his story. It's actually it has parallels with today as you'll see. He was a very self made, wealthy, noble man who fought constantly and was loved by the people. And his enemies were actually the elites who continuously would side with the enemy with the church just to see him fall and obviously that reminds me of someone or one day if Trump and what's been going on with the elites and so forth and how he's a populist. So you had that going on with someone like John hunyadi and again, I don't want to get into too much detail because there's just very impressive and I don't want to spoil her but how he dies and how he lived. And then skanderbeg, so this is an Albanian man, a noble man who was abducted by the Turks as a youth and was trained to become a janissary which is basically they would take the strongest healthiest best looking whatever Christians in their youth, force them into becoming Muslims and then train them to be jihadist extraordinaire. And then unleash them on their former king and continue this cycle of depopulating the Christians of their best and bravest and augmenting the ranks of Islam. Anyway, they did that with him and he rose to the high echelons of the Ottoman army. And he was loved by the fault that. But the moment he had a chance, he actually broke free and ran back to Albania and chose a life living as a fugitive and leading a ragtag band of Albanians, which is army at most with number 10,000 Vis-à-vis a hundred and a 150,000 Ottomans that would continuously come wave after wave attacking his land. He's known actually as the Albanian braveheart. Of course, with William Wallace and his story, stand our bag is to me actually if you read from the primary sources even more impressive and he spent about a quarter of a century doing this and he just sacrificed everything, but then again, you dig in and it's interesting because Albania today is a Muslim nation, majority. And the reason for that is because he was a staunch Christian and he gave up everything to maintain description identity and he so irked to the Ottomans that after he died, everything was done to islamize that nation more so than any other European nation. We're out of time, but just for today, Raymond Ibrahim thank you folks. The book is defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam. I think we need to be familiar with these stories. So we will have Raymond Ibrahim Beck again. The book is defenders of the west, get a copy, I'm going to read it soon defenders of the west Raymond, thank you so much. God bless you. Thanks very much for having me, Eric. God bless you. Keep crying to the 7 will my goodness, I am so excited, we have much more coming up on the program today..
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"Who are some of the characters that you talk about in this book? Well, actually, so the first one, chapter one, actually, I wanted to mention right now, is Godfrey of bouillon, and he becomes the, so he's part of the first crusade. He's one of the leaders of the first crusade. And I don't want to give too much and make it spoiler because a lot of this book actually is writing in a very exciting narrative to just show you their life and adventure. But anyway, what was interesting about Godfrey is oftentimes you're the crusaders. They were the second sons who were denied land or whatever and had been so they decided to go and carve out whatever territory and get money and become rich and land holding in the Middle East. Well, he was a second son, but as it happened, he actually was a landowner and a noble and he was a duke. He's known as the duke. He actually sold everything to fund the crusade and then the rest of the money he gave to charity to monasteries and so forth. He gave up everything essentially to just spend several years of torture and fighting and warfare. And when you look at why he did it, it's again for his faith. It's for helping Christians and so forth. And I understand what you're saying, you know, we have to counterbalance the love with the whole idea of just war. But I think many of these men actually did that at least in the context of the times as much as you could. And people forget just how wild and savage the pre modern world was. That's the point is people, people act as though you're living in America 21st century. No, ladies and gentlemen, the world has been unbelievably brutal and painful. And we need to get that. We need to understand the context. So tell us when did Godfrey of bouillon live again? What was the context? Yeah, he's one of the first leaders of the first crusade. He's born, I think. I have his date. I want to say ten 40 AD. He actually dies very young. He becomes so this is one little spoiler, but he becomes the first king of Jerusalem. And he didn't even want to be the king. And it's interesting because when they offered him The Crown, he said, I refuse to wear a crown where my lord wore The Crown of Florence. So he wouldn't even take the title king and he became the defender of the sepulture, basically. But he didn't even want to do that because his goal was to help liberate Jerusalem from Islamic control, which at the time was very suffocating and full of atrocities against Christians in the Holy Land. We wanted to go back home. But he knew he wouldn't last. And he actually just and he spent one year surrounded by obviously a hostile sea of Islamic de terrorism and eventually died from it. But he's just one of so many and just give you a quick breakdown the second chapter deals with the famous el cid. Rodrigo rodrick, Dave avar, roderick. I always confused Spanish name with his anglicized name. Rodrigo villa is Dave of our from Burgos. Anyway, he's, we know him, of course, is John as Charlton Heston from the 1960s movie. And again, you see the political correctness going way back to that time because they portray him as a very sort of ecumenical band who just, you know, he like smugglers just as much as he fights against Christians and so forth. And there's a kernel of truth to that based on the realpolitik of the time. But again, you dig in the sources as I do and you find out he was an avowed crusader Vis-à-vis the Islamic Jihad, which was, again, very atrocious, one of the battles in his times features about 2400 decapitated Spaniard Christian hedge with Muslims standing on top calling the faithful to prayer. His screaming allow ugg bar. And so forth and his fight again, it was in a context of just war because he's trying and the other Spaniards to reconquer their territory from Spain, which was taken very violently, beginning in the 8th century by Muslims. And then in search after, of course, is the famous king Richard. Richard the lionheart. And he's a very, if you read that chapter, I didn't really appreciate why he got the name line hard. But when you read that chapter, you will. I mean, this is his chapter is one that could, you know, you hear that truth is stranger than fiction. That's the case. You want to make a very exciting movie and you don't want to exaggerate the script is right there. And then anyway, fourth and then the fourth chapter I would go back to Spain with Ferdinand, the third Castile, also known as saint Ferdinand. And he and chapter 5, who's his cousin, which is king Louis of France, the 9th St. Louis. So you've got two saints kings, and I think each one is the only sainted king in their countries. Who were at the same time wild warriors. Fighting Islam. So again, that sheds a little light on the thinking of the time and people today, of course, will say that's insane and it just shows you how bad the Catholic Church is, that they would saint men who actually fought and killed, but again, it really underscores this different and much older and longer lasting kind of Christianity than what we have today. Which is a very capitulating and built on not judging and turning the other cheek and so forth. And I'd add, you know, this turning the other cheek thing. The one recorded instance where Jesus actually was slapped. He did not turn his other cheek. So there is obviously some symbolic significance to this. He actually challenged the man who slapped him. Why he slapped it and he put him on the spot. He was assertive with him. And to go back to this just worth it, because I think it's very important, you know, when the one man that Jesus really praised and did not tell him to repent and said he was a great man of faith was a centurion. And this man was responsible for you can imagine how many people being killed constantly, but did he tell him to repent? Did he say quit the Roman army? No, because it was understood that there is you need justice to ensure peace and tranquility. It's so important, folks that we get this right and we're only beginning really to see these problems and to begin to undo the bad thinking that has led us to this horrifying place, I am talking to Raymond Ibrahim, the book, defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam. We'll be right back. With the overturn of roe V wade, lots of companies are coming out saying they'll pay for employee abortion travel and expenses. Most of you have heard about some of these companies, you've decided to stop shopping or doing business there, but did you know that you most likely own stock in those companies through your four-o-one-ks, IRAs, and other investment accounts. 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"Just one example. So wait, so one of the 8 heroes who stood against Islam and your book is the so called Vlad the Impaler. Right. Yeah. Who's a national hero in Romania? And they have statues of him and so forth, but to us, thanks to Brian Stoker, who wrote a fictitious novel and just took his name and added it on. He became a blood sucking denizen of the night flying about in the middle of the night. That's not obviously the truth. Was he was he cruel? Yes. But again, you have to understand that in the context of the time and who he was cruel too and why, you know, he had a very traumatic life. He was throwing, he actually, even though he was the ruler of wallach, this spent more time in prison than he did on the throne. And he was betrayed by his own family and it's very graphic stories. All of these actually. But what's significant and what I'd like to underline which speaks to what you were talking about is all of these men and this is what I found fascinating. Posited and presented their crusade their fight against Islamic terrorism and Jihad as a Christian thing. That was first and foremost, what they did, including Vlad, okay? So even in Vlad's writings and in his speeches and in his logic and fighting, but not just them all of them, the crusaders, first and foremost, and you don't get this in the secondary histories. Was that they saw this as acting on God's commandments, protecting whether it was the holy sepulture, whether it was pilgrims, Christians who were being mauled and murdered and raped and destroyed. It was seen as fulfilling the two greatest commandments loving God and loving your fellow man. We have to clarify because I know we have such a disparate audience. We want to say folks, this is part of what we're dealing with now with the cancel culture. I know there's when we talk about somebody like Vlad the Impaler, so called, right? We want to acknowledge that some of these heroes in some ways were deeply messed up and did evil, okay? So if we're talking about George Washington or we're talking about Columbus or we're talking about Jefferson or they all did wrong, they were human beings. So we're not celebrating everything they did. But what we're trying to do is trying to clarify that just because someone did some things that were wrong. In some cases, grievous, horrifying things, it does not negate the good that they did, which must be celebrated and the reason I have behind me a bust of George Washington is because when I look at this man as a whole, he is one of the greatest heroes who has ever lived in the history of mankind. But there are people today who just want to point out what it is that he did wrong or the fact that he owns slaves, which I think we all agree was wrong. So when we're talking about the defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam by my guest, Raymond Ibrahim, I want to be really clear about that, folks. When somebody is a hero, if we say somebody's a hero, it doesn't mean we agree with everything they did. And that pension in our own day to only find people who are perfect, it's preposterous, only Jesus was perfect. And I really think in a funny way, Raymond, this is, this is the battle of our time is to try to. Try again to do what you're doing in your book and what I've done with some of my books is to try to make the case for these people as heroes who were imperfect. I mean, we could be talking about Andrew Jackson. There's so many people that in many ways were tremendous heroes, but their history is checkered enough that modern scholars can't bear to hold them up as heroes. They have to just throw them away. Yes, I would agree with that wholeheartedly night also emphasize that in many ways that's being exploited. It's a pretext to do precisely that self righteous kind of, oh, well, look at them when in fact, then we're in many ways more virtuous than the people today who are condemning them in different ways. So I agree with you. And yeah, I'm not trying to I personally don't even celebrate these, man. I'm trying to do a historical delineation of who they were and what they did and how and how to compare and contrast it. And certainly, they engage in what we would call today atrocities, but what's left out in the vacuum, and this is the whole point..
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"Did you contact the lines defending freedom? 8 5 5 three 8 5 O 5 9 6 8 5 5 three 8 5 O 5 9 6 or go to metaxas talk dot com. They need your help. We're fighting a war on many, many fronts. The alliance defending freedom, they are defending our religious liberties in the court. We have to step up, we're in a battle. I'm talking to Raymond Ibrahim, who is talking about the same battle, but a different part of the battle, he is the author of a book defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam and Raymond, you were just talking about the misunderstanding that a lot of people have fallen into with regard. I mean, just theologically about this idea that we're not supposed to fight. We're supposed to be in a supine position somehow somehow that's Christ like. And there's always truth in every lie. Yes, Jesus allowed himself to be crucified on the cross. And to some extent, that is a model for us. We are to die to self. There's always truth in every lie. So there is truth here, and we don't want to miss the truth. But to apply this as widely as it has been applied, is just devastating and so you talk about this. You talk about the moments in our Christian history when people understood it was their duty before God to stand and to fight and in many cases literally so talk a little bit about the crusades and the background of your book defenders of the west because so many people, especially evangelicals today have adopted this kind of liberalized false view of what it means to stand as a Christian. Oh, absolutely. Eric, I agree. And it's not just a theoretical point that I'm making or you're making, that's I think the whole point that the book shows you, then it brings it out naturally, let me trying to do it. It's just there. So as I was saying, basically there's 8 chapters, 8 men, three Balkans, two three crusades two in Spain and what's significant about all these men and they include men like Vlad tepes, Count Dracula, the vampire, who's very applicable today, because since we're approaching Halloween, but the reason I say that is because the book will also show you how these people have been manipulated and mangled in ways that were familiar with basically showing the Christians as the bad guy constantly no matter what. So Vlad, for example, did he do impalement and all that? Yeah, he did. And I'm not trying to whitewash any of that. But what you don't understand is he was taught that actually in the Ottoman courts or Turkish Muslim courts when he was a hostage to them as a youth. And he was essentially fighting fire with fire when the Muslims were invading his native homeland. Modern day Romania. That's.
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"Hang on one second, Raymond. We'll be right back with Raymond Ibrahim folks. We have him for the whole hour today. I want to remind you, we desperately need your help, the alliance defending freedom, go to metaxas, talk, dot com. Please, folks. Metaxas talk dot com or dial 855-385-0596 855-385-0596. If you by my side in case you haven't been paying attention, the Biden administration has caused a financial crisis and they have no clue how to fix it. Oil prices have skyrocketed and when oil prices go up, the cost of transportation and shipping spikes leading the prices of goods to rise. And when we're already seeing record inflation, that's the last thing we need. Our economy is in trouble and you need to take steps to protect yourself. If all your money is tied up in stocks, bonds and traditional markets, you are vulnerable. Gold is one of the best ways to protect your retirement. No matter what happens, you own your gold. It is real. It is physical. It's always been valuable since the dawn of time. Legacy precious metals is the company I trust for investing in gold. They can help you roll your retirement account into a gold backed IRA where you still own the physical gold. They can also ship gold and precious metals safely and securely to your house called legacy at 8 6 6 5 two 8 1903 or visit them online at legacy p.m. investments dot com..
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Hanging out with, you know, other freakish super geniuses like doctor James tour, David berlinski, Peter Thiel, three people that we are having at Socrates in the city. Actually, no, we've had doctor tour recently. We've had berlinsky some years ago. And Peter Thiel, no, we did. We've had all of them at stock decency, but John smer is hanging out with them. And we thought, what are we going to do? A week without John's mirac is like a week without sunshine. But then John said, Eric, I very, very, very, very highly recommend that you have on someone who actually he already recommended him many, many times before. And we thought perhaps we would get Raymond Ibrahim on the show. So sitting in for our friend John smek is Raymond Ibrahim. Now let me explain to you folks. Raymond Ibrahim is a really distinguished scholar and spokesperson on issues considering the Middle East. He has a brand new book called this is a big deal. I want to talk to him about this. This is called defenders of the west. The Christian heroes who stood against Islam. The forward of the book is written by Victor Davis Hanson. I think that tells you everything you need to know, Raymond Ibrahim, welcome to the program. Hi, Eric. Great to be with you. Thanks. Don't be nervous that you're sitting in for John's mirac. Others have done it before. Many of them have died, violent deaths, but I'm just saying, just put that out of your mind. But when John's mirac raves and raves about someone, it's really not difficult to us for us to understand. We need to get this person. And so we're just really grateful to you for coming on. And tell my audience a little bit about yourself. I mentioned that you're the author of a brand new book called defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam. What is your own background? I know you have an Egyptian background as well. Yeah, so my family is the cops Coptic every time I say that word cops have to people ask me what precincts I come from. But cops Coptic, of course, the indigenous Christians from Egypt. So my parents immigrated to the United States in the mid 60s. I was born and raised here. Because of that background being coming from a Christian minority sect from the Middle East surrounded by Islam. I was always interested in, of course, in those issues, but then in college, as you mentioned, Victor David saints and was my professor for many years and I'm proud to say a friend and mentor and so forth. I naturally gravitated towards history, military history, and then long story short in 2001 when I was writing my master's thesis with the Victor Davis, Victor David Sanchez, my chair, it was actually about the first military encounter between Islam and the west for really Christianity, Christendom. And because I was employing the languages I was studying, Arabic and Greek and so forth. And anyway, long story short, and then that's when 9 11 happened and I went to Georgetown university, studied there for a little bit in their contemporary center for Arab studies, which is, as I later found out, it was very ideologically charged. And I left there. Despite stellar performance, I might add straight age, but I had to leave there just because of the political reasons and then I got a job with the Library of Congress in the near east section where I dealt with Arabic materials and other Middle Eastern languages. Sounds writings by Al-Qaeda in the early 2000s and long story short, that got translated into my first book, the Al-Qaeda reader, which came out in 2007 from Doubleday. And since then, I've just really been involved in this nexus of Islam in the west. And I've also gravitated very much again to my own personal interests, which is the Christians. How Christians fit into this. And so for the longest time I write about the persecution at Christians encounter that I did that in my 2013 book crucified again, which I continue because I write monthly reports for the gatestone institute collating all of the anecdotes of persecution that arise at the hands of Muslims, these to be Christians. Any of these, of course, if it was the opposite, it was a Christian or a western person doing this to a Muslim would be all plastered all over the media, but of course we don't hear about it. So I really get it from alternate sources, small websites, Arabic language sources, and so forth..
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"We're out of time, but just for today, Raymond Ibrahim thank you folks. The book is defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam. I think we need to be familiar with these stories. So we will have Raymond Ibrahim Beck again. The book is defenders of the west, get a copy, I'm going to read it soon defenders of the west Raymond, thank you so much. God bless you. Thanks very much for having me, Eric. God bless you. Hey folks, welcome back. You know that we're kind of in an emergency spot with our campaign for the alliance defending freedom. These folks are heroes, and I actually, I say this emphatically, you need to stand with these people because they're defending you, they're defending your American liberties in a way that no one else is doing. And that's why we partner with them. This month. So it's the alliance defending freedom to give to them. There's two ways. There's a phone number, but I will give you the website. It's metaxas talk dot com. That's our radio website, metaxas talk, dot com. You'll see when you go to metaxas talk dot com. What you can do, I know that everybody can give something. And for some reason, the giving is way, way down when we do a campaign like this, so I don't know what is happening, but I got to tell you, there is nobody like the alliance defending freedom. They go to the Supreme Court. They fight battles. They win battles. It is vital that we take this seriously. So one thing you can do is give to the alliance defending freedom, tell your Friends, put this on social media, we need your help. Alliance defending freedom is at metaxas talk dot com. If you just go there, you'll see it. There's a banner that says protect your God given freedoms against unconstitutional government overreach. I know these people, I will say it again, these are the real thing. They are heroes. They're fighting for you. And for me, and we need them to do that. This is not a luxury. So we're in a tough spot. Metaxas talked dot com and you will see the banner there. I also want to mention speaking of this month, our friends at nutrimetics this month are giving 30% off. That's a big deal. If you use the code Eric, you got to use the code Eric that's the key. If you use the code Eric at new traumatic dot com, they give 50% of all their profits to missions organizations. I know these folks, these are heroes as well. We want to partner with people like this. Dot com, whatever you get, vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc, magnesium, melatonin. There's a million things that you're probably buying from some satanic corporation that you maybe want to buy from a non satanic corporation. Like nutrimetics dot com, 30% off if you use the code Eric. That's only this month, 30% off everything. And Alvin, you know what? Yes. It just dawned on me. We should mention Salem now dot com. Oh, great movies there, yeah. Salem now dot com, as you know, we are on the much vilified Salem media network. Vilified because Salem believes in things like oh, I don't know, free speech, religious liberty, all that crazy right wing stuff that's in the constitution. Salem now dot com, if you go to Salem now, dot com, you'll see there are a couple of films. There's a film with dean Cain and Sean young. It's called no vacancy. We recommend no vacancy, but also there's a series on the border. It's called border battle. We've had folks on the program talking about border battle. Salem now dot com when you go there, you can see all this stuff. But people are looking for good stuff to watch. So let me recommend. Yeah, one's a feature film and the other one's a documentary. So a documentary series. So there's plenty of good stuff there. Salem. Plenty. Plenty. Now, we want to remind you again that for some reason we're very far behind the disturbingly far behind in our campaign with the alliance defending freedom. If you haven't given something folks, let me just say, I believe it's your responsibility to step up. Nobody's going to tell you how much to give, but to go and to give something at metaxas talk dot com, you'll see the banner. I'll give you the phone number. If that's what you prefer to do, the phone number is 8 5 5 three 8 5 O 5 9 6. Some people don't like to give online so you can call 8 5 5 three 8 5 O 5 9 6. Again, 8 5 5 three 8 5 O 5 9 6. I want to stress how vitally important this is. This is about your liberty, my liberty,.
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"And I don't want to get into the details, but if you read the book, you'll see why he's the tragic hero. But at the same time, he was engaged in warfare, and he would tell you he loves Muslims. So when he would meet them, he would actually preach price to them because he was even more concerned as he said about their souls than about what was happening in the current political climate. And it's just I know it's so hard for modern day Christians to understand this. You know, but I think significant to bring it out. And it makes sense. You know, how a man like that thought and that's why he became a saint and even till today and strongly secular France when they do polls about who's their greatest kings. He often comes up in the very top is very well liked. After him, however, the last three chapters deal with the Balkans. And then I look at John hunyadi, the Hungarian governor and eventually regent. And then the most famous of them all, really, and probably the one that no one has ever heard of George castrillo D skanderbeg, okay? And then we mentioned Vlad, hunia, of course, is very interesting his story. It's actually, it has parallels with today, as you'll see he was a very self made, wealthy, noble man who fought constantly and was loved by the people. And his enemies were actually the elites who continuously would side with the enemy with the church just to see him fall and obviously that reminds me of someone or one day of Trump and what's been going on with the elites and so forth and how he's a populist. So you had that going on with someone like John hunyadi and again, I don't want to get into too much detail because there's just very impressive and I don't want to spoil her but how he dies and how he lived. And then skanderbeg, so this is an Albanian man, a noble man who was abducted by the Turks as a youth and was trained to become a janissary which is basically they would take the strongest healthiest best looking whatever Christians in their youth, force them into becoming Muslims and then train them to be jihadists extraordinaire. And then unleash them on their former king and continue this cycle of depopulating the Christians of their best and bravest and augmenting the ranks of Islam. Anyway, they did that with him and he rose to the high echelons of the Ottoman army and he was loved by the sultan. But the moment he had a chance, he actually broke free and ran back to Albania and chose a life living as a fugitive and leading a ragtag band of Albanians, which is army at most with number 10,000 Vis-à-vis a hundred and a 150,000 Ottomans that would continuously come wave after wave attacking his land. He's known actually as the Albanian braveheart. Of course, with William Wallace and his story, standard bag is to me actually if you read from the primary sources even more impressive and he spent about a quarter of a century doing this and he just sacrificed everything, but then again, you dig in and it's interesting because Albania today is a Muslim nation, majority. And the reason for that is because he was a staunch Christian and he gave up everything to maintain his Christian identity and he's so irked to the Ottomans that after he died, everything was done to islamize that nation more so than any other European nation..
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"raymond ibrahim" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"About. We're talking about undoing decades of misunderstanding Raymond about what it means to be a Christian, Howard to be in our faith, whether we're to fight, how we're to fight, and I feel books like yours are helping us really undo the deep misunderstanding in heresy by showing us the other side. The book is defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam. I'm thinking a lot of homeschoolers should read this book, defenders of the west by Raymond Ibrahim. So you were talking about Richard the lionhearted. These are figures from history. These figures are lost to history today. In other words, the even when we were kids, people would know who these folks were, but in latter decades, in a sense, this history has been ignored, these heroic figures. What it would mean to be lion hearted, David, of course, was lionhearted. And we don't think of David as, well, you know, that's before Jesus came. And we praise David for his heroism and their figures, in scripture. And we need to understand when that is right, when that is wrong. And even when it's wrong, why given the context? And of course, that's what you do in your book defenders of the west. Talk a little bit about Richard, the lionheart, and give us his story. Sure. So Richard Reinhardt, you know, I think the great grandson of William the Conqueror of the Norman conquest of England. And you know, it's interesting because I talk a little bit about this in the conclusion of the book, but Richard is interesting because he's of the 8 men that I talk about. He's one of the more famous. We kind of know his name, we've seen some movies and so forth. But it's so kind of now, it's almost like what I want to say is today they've taken, let's say, these 8 men. The ones that we don't know about who are from the Balkans and I'll talk about them stand over hunyadi and so forth. They don't even talk about them because it's better, let sleeping dogs lie. The ones that are sort of famous in our minds a little bit like Richard, they've completely devastated and turned him into just you want to talk about toxic masculinity and patriarchy. Okay, it's him. And it's actually the rest of these guys. And so if anything, they are not a bad guys, they are intolerant. They're just, you know, womanizers or murderers and so forth. But there's zero context in it. So Richard, anyway, goes to the Holy Land. He spends only about two years. He gets, he could have actually done a lot more progress, a very impressive progress. He already did anyway. But if it wasn't for, he got betrayed by his brother, John, of course, and we all know the famous stories of Richard and John and king Philip also stealing his lands and so forth and trying to take over power. So there's a lot of machinations and that as well. And the book really also shows you the disunity of Christians and how they oftentimes undermine each other and ally with the common enemy. And so forth. So there's a lot of continuity with that as well. Anyway, because each of these chapters, by the way, is about 40 pages and it's a dense book, but at the same time I think the narrative is pretty quick pace. So I'm just trying to go fast as well. So after him, you have St. Louis, who I call Christ's tragic hero. Because this is a man who had everything. He's considered he was probably he's considered the king of France at its most glorious point. I think he was behind the building of Notre-Dame. And now you want to talk about piety. I mean, this man, the way he lives and the things that he did. So this man would not eat his he would first feed beggars and lepers with his own hand and then eat the leftovers because he didn't want to waste the money. And this is a mighty king, okay? And he sold so much and he gave away so much just to fund two crusades..
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Raymond Ibrahim Describes the Characters in His New Book
"Of the characters that you talk about in this book? Well, actually, so the first one, chapter one, actually, I wanted to mention right now is Godfrey of bouillon, and he becomes the so he's part of the first crusade he's one of the leaders of the first crusade. And I don't want to give too much, you know, I don't want to make a spoiler because a lot of this book actually is written in a very exciting narrative to just show you their life and adventure. But anyway, what's interesting about Godfrey is oftentimes you're the crusaders. They were the second sons who were denied land or whatever and had been so they decided to go and carve out whatever territory and get money and become rich and land holding in the Middle East. Well, he was a second son, but as it happened, he actually was a landowner and a noble and he was a duke. He's known as the duke. He actually sold everything to fund the crusade and then the rest of the money gave to charity to monasteries and so forth. He gave up everything essentially to just spend several years of torture and fighting and warfare. And when you look at why he did it, it's again for his faith. It's for helping Christians and so forth. And I understand what you're seeing. We have to counterbalance the love with the whole idea of just war. But I think many of these men actually did that, at least in the context of the times, as much as you could. People forget just how wild and savage the pre modern world blood. That's the point is people act as though you're living in America in the 21st century. No ladies and gentlemen, the world has been unbelievably brutal
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"raymond ibrahim" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
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"raymond ibrahim" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"And it's very graphic stories. All of these actually. But what's significant in what I'd like to underline which speaks to what you were talking about is all of these men and this is what I found fascinating. Posited and presented their crusade their fight against Islamic terrorism and Jihad as a Christian thing that was first and foremost what they did, including Vlad, okay? So even in Vlad's writings and in his speeches and in his logic and fighting, but not just them all of them, the crusaders. First and foremost, and you don't get this in the secondary histories. Was that they saw this as acting on God's commandments, protecting whether it was the holy sepulture, whether it was pilgrims, Christians were being mauled and murdered and raped and destroyed. It was seen as fulfilling the two greatest commandments loving God and loving your fellow man. We have to clarify because I know we have such a disparate audience. We want to say folks, this is part of what we're dealing with now with the cancel culture. And others, when we talk about somebody like Vlad the Impaler, so called, right? We want to acknowledge that some of these heroes in some ways were deeply messed up and did evil, okay? So if we're talking about George Washington or we're talking about Columbus or we're talking about Jefferson or they all did wrong, they were human beings. So we're not celebrating everything they did. But what we're trying to do is trying to clarify that just because someone did some things that were wrong. In some cases, grievous, horrifying things, it does not negate the good that they did, which must be celebrated and the reason I have behind me a bust of George Washington is because when I look at this man as a whole, he is one of the greatest heroes who has ever lived in the history of mankind. But there are people today who just want to point out what it is that he did wrong or the fact that he owned slaves, which I think we all agree was wrong. So when we're talking about the defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam by my guest, Raymond Ibrahim, I want to be really clear about that, folks. When somebody is a hero, if we say somebody's a hero, it doesn't mean we agree with everything they did. And that pension in our own day to only find people who are perfect, it's preposterous, only Jesus was perfect. And I really think in a funny way, Raymond, this is, this is the battle of our time is to try to. Try again to do what you're doing in your book and what I've done to some of my books is to try to make the case for these people as heroes who were imperfect. I mean, we could be talking about Andrew Jackson. There's so many people that in many ways were tremendous heroes, but their history is checkered enough that modern scholars can't bear to hold them up as heroes. They have to just throw them away. Yes, I would agree with that wholeheartedly night also emphasize that in many ways that's being exploited. It's a pretext to do precisely that it's self righteous kind of, oh, well, look at them when in fact then we're in many ways more virtuous than the people today who are condemning them in different ways. So I agree with you. And yeah, I'm not trying to I personally don't even celebrate these men. I'm trying to do a historical delineation of who they were, what they did and how and how to compare and contrast it. And certainly they engage in what we would call today atrocities, but what's left out in the vacuum, and this is the whole point. You hear about what they did, the violence, but you don't understand the background and what provoked and prompted it. So let's go back quickly to the crusades. Which is, again, when you talk about Muslims and Christians fighting historically, it's the only thing that ever comes up in the western conscious. Because here you finally have Christians marching onto Islamic territory. But really, that was a drop in the bucket of the overall warfare, which features Muslims invading Christian lands. And of course, in the crusaders minds, they weren't marching into muzzle lens. They were going back to Christian territory that was conquered, which it was in reality. But right before the crusades, as I was, to give you a little more context, the Armenians and the Greeks of Asia Minor. According to the contemporary sources, literally hundreds of thousands were killed, burned alive, crucified many, of course, enslaved. In Armenia alone, thousands of churches were intentionally desecrated and burned. One Arab recorded that he went to the capital of Armenia at the time on the and you couldn't even walk because of all the corpses laying around. So that's the context of what provoked and brought out the ugly side of these Christians. When you mentioned Armenia, what century are you talking about now? I'm talking about the 11th century starting from right around ten 20 up until, well, you know, the famous battle of manzikert in ten 71, which really after that allowed the church to completely penetrate Asia Minor Anatolia today, turkey. Until the crusades in ten 95 because they were now at the point of reaching Constantinople and that's who called for the aid of the west, really the emperor alexios. Because I grew up in the Greek court that ox church and the Greek community, I know much of this. And it is very tempting for us, you know, to forget about this history, it's just as tempting for us to become tribalist, right? In other words, the idea that I would say, I'm Greek, and I hate the Turks, and I'm a great Christian. I hate to talk. It's like, no, no, no. If you know the Bible and you know Jesus personally, you don't have that attitude. But we've strayed so far in the other direction and your book I see and what you're talking about is a corrective against this that we need to really understand the breadth and depth of what we're talking about folks. We're talking about people who endured horrors at the hands of Muslims. You need to understand, it's like talking about those who are tortured by the Native Americans in the United States. We've got to see both sides of this. Otherwise, you can not see clearly when you hold one up as a noble savage or you hold one up as a Christian conqueror or whatever. It's more complicated. And if you don't want to see that, you're being intentionally sloppy and careless, and that's why we're talking to Raymond Ibrahim, the book is defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam will be right back..
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Defenders of the West: The Christian Heroes Who Stood Against Islam
"Talking to Raymond Ibrahim, who is talking about the same battle, but a different part of the battle. He is the author of a book defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam and Raymond, you were just talking about the misunderstanding that a lot of people have fallen into with regard. I mean, just theologically about this idea that we're not supposed to fight. We're supposed to be in a supine position somehow somehow that's Christ like. And there's always truth in every lie. Yes, Jesus allowed himself to be crucified on the cross. And to some extent, that is a model for us. We are to die to self. There's always truth in every lie. So there is truth here, and we don't want to miss the truth. But to apply this as widely as it has been applied, is just devastating. And so you talk about this. You talk about the moments in our Christian history when people understood it was their duty before God to stand and to fight. And in many cases, literally, so talk a little bit about the crusades and the background of your book defenders of the west because so many people, especially evangelicals today have adopted this kind of liberalized false view of what it means to stand as a Christian. Oh, absolutely. Eric, I agree. And it's not just a theoretical point that I'm making or you're making, that's I think the whole point that the book shows you, then it brings it out naturally, let me trying to do it. It's just there. So as I was saying, basically there's 8 chapters, 8 men, three Balkans, two three crusades two in Spain and what's significant about all these men and they include men like Vlad tepes, Count Dracula, the vampire, who's very applicable today because since we're approaching Halloween, but the reason I say that is because the book will also show you how these people have been manipulated and mangled in ways that were familiar with basically showing the Christians as the bad guy constantly no matter what.
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"raymond ibrahim" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Hang on one second, Raymond. We'll be right back with Raymond Ibrahim folks. We have him for the whole hour today. I want to remind you, we desperately need your help, the alliance defending freedom, go to metaxas, talk, dot com. Please, folks. Metaxas talk dot com or dial 855-385-0596 855-385-0596. With you by my side in case you haven't been paying attention. The Biden administration has caused a financial crisis and they have no clue how to fix it. Oil prices have skyrocketed and when oil prices go up, the cost of transportation and shipping spikes leading the prices of goods to rise. And when we're already seeing record inflation, that's the last thing we need. Our economy is in trouble and you need to take steps to protect yourself. If all your money is tied up in stocks, bonds and traditional markets, you are vulnerable. Gold is one of the best ways to protect your retirement. No matter what happens, you own your gold. It is real, it is physical, it's always been valuable since the dawn of time, legacy precious metals is the company I trust for investing in gold. They can help you roll your retirement account into a gold backed IRA where you still own the physical gold. They can also ship gold and precious metals safely and securely to your house called legacy at 8 6 6 5 two 8 1903 or visit them online at legacy p.m. investments dot com. If you want to know what the left's real plan is for your kids, just look at the reaction to the work patriot mobile did in multiple school districts in Texas. The left is losing their minds over it. Patriot mobile is America's only Christian conservative mobile phone provider and a force for conservative values. That's because they take a portion of your Bill and fund conservative causes and candidates who believe in the sanctity of life, freedom of speech, the Second Amendment, and they're winning patriot mobile, has affordable plans for you, your family, even your business, they are for the same nationwide coverage as the major carriers because they use multiple major networks. Plus you're supporting conservative values with every phone call, go to patriot mobile dot com slash Eric, patriot mobile dot com slash Eric or call 9 7 two patriot, get free activation with the offer code Eric special discounts available for veterans and first responders join our movement, make the switch today in a difference tomorrow patriot mobile dot com slash Eric.
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Raymond Ibrahim Discusses His New Book 'Defenders of the West'
"To reacquaint ourselves with what is the historical faith. So you are doing that in your book. So the new book is defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam, let's talk about that. Who are some of these heroes? What is the context? Well, the context, in many ways, this book is actually a companion book to my previous book from 2018, which is sword and scimitar. 14 centuries of war between Islam and the west. And you may recall we spoke sometime back about that when the war college had invited me to speak about it and then care the Muslim Brotherhood wing at the council of American Islamic relations, protested and call this islamophobes and races and pulled the rug from underneath me, the water college capitulated. So forth anyway, they redeemed themselves eventually, but then they capitulated again, that's all different story. So the first book sorting scimitar looked at the sites of battles and really 8 of them and looked at the context. So it showed you the history of relations between Islam and the west and how it was really anchored in warfare and Jihad and conquest and three quarters of the Christian territory. It was eventually was conquered and annexed and swallowed up. Some of it eventually was reconquered as in the reconquista in Spain and the Balkans and so forth. In the new book, defenders of the west, I look again at 8, but this time what I call not decisive battle, 8 decisive men. And again, I thought this was important to just show people how Christians understood themselves Vis-à-vis Islamic Jihad and I can name a lot of them still basically we have and it's really three theaters of war that I look at really the crusaders, which is a just war defensive war and I get into explaining how, even though it was Europeans traveling to the Middle East, they were actually acting on certain commandments, including love your fellow man, because the Christians of that region were being completely annihilated and terrorized, tens
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"raymond ibrahim" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"And so we're just really grateful to you for coming on. And tell my audience a little bit about yourself. I mentioned that you're the author of a brand new book called defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam. What is your own background? I know you have an Egyptian background as well. Yeah, so my family is the cops Coptic every time I say that word coughs have to people ask me what precincts I come from, but cops Coptic of course the indigenous Christians from Egypt so my parents immigrated to the United States in the mid 60s. I was born and raised here. Because of that background being coming from a Christian minority sect from the Middle East, surrounded by Islam. I was always interested in, of course, in those issues, but then in college, as you mentioned, Victor David saints and was my professor for many years and I'm proud to say a friend and mentor and so forth. I naturally gravitated towards history, military history, and then long story short in 2001 when I was writing my master's thesis with the Victor Davis as Victor David Sanchez my chair. It was actually about the first military encounter between Islam and the west for really Christianity, Christendom. And because I was employing the languages I was studying, Arabic and Greek and so forth. And anyway, long story short, and then that's when 9 11 happened and I went to Georgetown university, studied there for a little bit in their contemporary center for Arab studies, which is, as I later found out, it was very ideologically charged. And I left there. Despite stellar performance, I might add straight age, but I had to leave there just because of the political reasons and then I got a job at the Library of Congress in the near east section where I dealt with Arabic materials and other Middle Eastern languages. Sounds writings by Al-Qaeda in the early 2000s and long story short. That got translated into my first book, the Al-Qaeda reader, which came out in 2007 from Doubleday. And since then, I've just really been involved in this nexus of Islam in the west. And I've also gravitated very much again to my own personal interests, which is the Christians, you know, how Christians fit into this. And so for the longest time I write about the persecution that Christians encounter that I did that in my 2013 book crucified again, which I continue because I write monthly reports for the gatestone institute collating all of the anecdotes of persecution that arise at the hands of Muslims, these to be Christians. Any of these, of course, if it was the opposite, it was a Christian or a western person doing this to a Muslim would be old plastered all over the media, but of course we don't hear about it. So I really get it from alternate sources, small websites, Arabic language sources, and so forth. And most recently, as you indicated, I'm going back to my original interest, which is the historical, including military historical setting and some of my recent book defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam. You know, I look at men that identify as really the warriors. I identify as heroes because they were, they were understood as heroes. And what's refreshing to me in writing that book as opposed to what I've been doing is for once, I'm finally now writing about Christian standing their ground, fighting back and oftentimes actually becoming victorious Vis-à-vis the Jihad as opposed to what I'm normally reading and writing about, which is what's happening today, which is Christian just getting annihilated. And western Christians thinking it's making a virtue out of cowardice and basically, you know, becoming doormats and saying they're not doing anything they're not judging because that's their faith. And again, so I wanted to contrast it with how actual other Christians and the preceding centuries, the preceding millennium, really, how they understood it, especially in the context of just war theory..
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"raymond ibrahim" Discussed on The Eric Metaxas Show
"Raymond Ibrahim, welcome to the program. Hi, Eric. Great to be with you. Thanks. Don't be nervous that you're sitting in for John's mirac. Others have done it before. Many of them have died, violent deaths. But I'm just saying, just put that out of your mind. But when John's mirac raves and raves about someone, it's really not difficult to us for us to understand, we need to get this person. And so we're just really grateful to you for coming on. And tell my audience a little bit about yourself. I mentioned that you're the author of a brand new book called defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam. What is your own background? I know you have an Egyptian background as well. Yeah, so my family is the cops Coptic every time I say that word coughs have to people ask me what precincts I come from, but cops Coptic of course the indigenous Christians from Egypt so my parents immigrated to the United States in the mid 60s. I was born and raised here. Because of that background being coming from a Christian minority sect from the Middle East, surrounded by Islam. I was always interested in, of course, in those issues, but then in college, as you mentioned, Victor David saints and was my professor for many years and I'm proud to say a friend and mentor and so forth. I naturally gravitated towards history, military history, and then long story short in 2001 when I was writing my master's thesis with the Victor Davis as Victor David Sanchez my chair. It was actually about the first military encounter between Islam and the west for really Christianity, Christendom. And because I was employing the languages I was studying, Arabic and Greek and so forth. And anyway, long story short, and then that's when 9 11 happened and I went to Georgetown university, studied there for a little bit in their contemporary center for Arab studies, which is, as I later found out, it was very ideologically charged. And I left there. Despite stellar performance, I might add straight age, but I had to leave there just because of the political reasons and then I got a job at the Library of Congress in the near east section where I dealt with Arabic materials and other Middle Eastern languages. Sounds writings by Al-Qaeda in the early 2000s and long story short. That got translated into my first book, the Al-Qaeda reader,
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'Defenders of the West' Author Raymond Ibrahim Shares His Background
"Raymond Ibrahim, welcome to the program. Hi, Eric. Great to be with you. Thanks. Don't be nervous that you're sitting in for John's mirac. Others have done it before. Many of them have died, violent deaths. But I'm just saying, just put that out of your mind. But when John's mirac raves and raves about someone, it's really not difficult to us for us to understand, we need to get this person. And so we're just really grateful to you for coming on. And tell my audience a little bit about yourself. I mentioned that you're the author of a brand new book called defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam. What is your own background? I know you have an Egyptian background as well. Yeah, so my family is the cops Coptic every time I say that word coughs have to people ask me what precincts I come from, but cops Coptic of course the indigenous Christians from Egypt so my parents immigrated to the United States in the mid 60s. I was born and raised here. Because of that background being coming from a Christian minority sect from the Middle East, surrounded by Islam. I was always interested in, of course, in those issues, but then in college, as you mentioned, Victor David saints and was my professor for many years and I'm proud to say a friend and mentor and so forth. I naturally gravitated towards history, military history, and then long story short in 2001 when I was writing my master's thesis with the Victor Davis as Victor David Sanchez my chair. It was actually about the first military encounter between Islam and the west for really Christianity, Christendom. And because I was employing the languages I was studying, Arabic and Greek and so forth. And anyway, long story short, and then that's when 9 11 happened and I went to Georgetown university, studied there for a little bit in their contemporary center for Arab studies, which is, as I later found out, it was very ideologically charged. And I left there. Despite stellar performance, I might add straight age, but I had to leave there just because of the political reasons and then I got a job at the Library of Congress in the near east section where I dealt with Arabic materials and other Middle Eastern languages. Sounds writings by Al-Qaeda in the early 2000s and long story short. That got translated into my first book, the Al-Qaeda reader,
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Revival and Reformation Are Coming
"Something happening right now. I see, I believe, revival is coming in reformation is coming. And when I say reformation, I feel like a lot of people who've called themselves Christians are rethinking some things. Tomorrow we're going to be talking to Raymond Ibrahim. He has written a book called defenders of the west, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam. And I think part of what we see happening is over the last number of decades, many Christians have become either apolitical or almost anti political. They don't understand that we're called to every battle that matters. If you care about people, if you care about human beings, you're called to do whatever you can, not just to piously have a quiet time and pray for the country, but also to act, to vote, to be involved in your culture, to be involved politically, to be a poll watcher to get on the school board. Maybe to run for office yourself. But the point is that we're all called to the battle and somehow I think because things have gotten so bad, people are kind of waking up and
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"raymond ibrahim" Discussed on The Glenn Beck Program
"In hollywood would jump at the chance. I will tell you though the conservatives just don't part where their money as easily as liberals do especially on things like movies you know they. They don't like the odds of success and and it's interesting because when it comes to politics it seems like the left to never runs out of money But it's very difficult on the right for some reason well there's a very different mindset. I mean you know. I kind of straw the world between entertainment and politics and there's very You know the the people that run the money and politics are very set in their ways And they're able to kind of get the sales pitch to where the money's gonna go and ads You know i I you know. I actually created ten spots for the trump campaign and not one of them got us And it wasn't the folks that i was working with the way they were right but it would go up the food chain and it would get nixed. Would you be willing to share them. I'd love to see them. I actually Rebranded them political late and they're on There on the youtube channel and the twitter All right that's still made sense to release. But i mean i i. I didn't sleep all last october. And i put out spots that could've come up like the day after a debate or something and they just didn't get used and it was very frustrating. Because i feel like the pieces. I did could've moved the needle. The could've bought and folks that attrition traditional campaign at would not have reached So you know it's gonna take time and fortunately we don't have a lot of time but You know i'm gonna keep hammering at it and the opportunities present themselves and i'm just gonna you know kinda keep building. Well i blizzard. I have to tell you i was really really impressed with this video and I will begin to share some of your Some of your work as well and hope to talk to you off line as well. I think what you're doing is exactly right and i really appreciate your your passion And your willingness to risk thank you you bet bye..
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"raymond ibrahim" Discussed on The Glenn Beck Program
"You're gonna see that again so. I read this story this morning about a woman who is a mayor of a small town in the taliban is come in and she said i'm just waiting for them to come and take me and kill me She said there's no place for me to go and so i'm just waiting The taliban is said own. No no where we're no. We're not like that anymore. Do you does any sane person believe that to be true. No but the problem is we were lacking insanity to a large disturb especially when it comes to our leaders and our betters for what for whatever reason they just don't want to think according to seeing principles and it's even worse than that Reports came out around August eleven week ago of the taliban going door to door and forcibly taking girls as young as twelve to be their sex slaves to be their wives and again. So you see it's all back. It's just amazing. You know twenty years of that and the most powerful nation and all the money that's spent and all the blood and all that and then we are not just back to where we were. I would argue to an even worse spot and and it all has to do with a very myopic western world view which is okay. Look we killed the bad guys. We got rid of the bad guys. Let's say osama bin laden and remember mullah omar and now we've you know we've set up a government and obviously they're gonna want to be like us because this is a natural culmination and see. I think this is what they don't understand in order to reach a good sort of western democracy and and the principles that we have you have to have a bedrock for that you can just import it on you. Know surface of islam or tribalism and our bedrock would be. I would argue something judeo christian principles and that's why you can build the what we essentially built and but because they don't see that and they actually end and when you say that that's the worst thing judeo christian principles that you're being you know whenever triumphalist and so forth and so without that you see what's happening they bring the package without the found the groundwork being laid and the end result is what we see and what we always keep seeing. We're talking to Raymond abraham Who is an expert on the middle east What is coming our way. Do you think because of this collapse argue well. It's funny because i remember almost twenty years ago you know ingram's law-free who was the second at the time of al qaeda is currently the head of al qaeda and osama bin laden but i remember when osama bin laden ever about three years after the invasion of ghanistan some reporters asked him ayman's lottery. What's you know what happened osama laden. Where's the milomar we don't hear about it. And what he said is it was very telling. I'll give you the quote. He said to that. Jihad in the path of allah is greater than any individual organization. It's a struggle between truth and falsehood until all mighty eric. The earth mini said milomar and shake osama bin laden are merely to sold due to soldiers of islam journey of jihad. But the struggle continues for all time until you see there's patients where it looked like. They lost they step back now but look. They're winning even though those two guys are not there. omar in shape osama bin laden and aims awadhi will come and go mohammed himself. The prophet came and died but the jihad goes on so and they're already seeing this Just recently Leader said it's our belief that one day that would victory and islamic law will come not just afghanistan. You just said just a couple of days ago but all over the world we are not in a hurry. We believe it will come to. Jihad will not end until the last day. So you see. It's patience mentality that we're dealing with y. We usually just you know. Sit and look at these little my opaque sort of you know the milestones That the ends just don't amount to much raymond any suggestion on where we should go from here. And and and i mean as a people not as a government You know we're this. Audience is very involved in Rescuing people in the middle east and all over the world that Especially women and children that are found in these situations and we wanna help. All persecuted minorities Get to safety in any suggestion on on what we should be looking towards or how we can help. Well the first thing of course is to have to be armed with adequate knowledge. And i know you are and i'm assuming most of your audiences but to be to understand that you know. We're talking about something like christian persecution or religious persecution of minorities in general when you come to understand that it is overwhelmingly. The lying share of that phenomenon is being dealt out at the hands of muslims. And then the fact that it's up it happens in sub saharan. Muslim africans nigeria. We have a genocide of christians and happens of course in ecj pakistan even in malaysia indonesia and of course the heart of the muslim world all throughout africa middle east turkey. Wrong when you understand that. I think you start to realize there's an ideology behind this and it's important to get our heads wrapped around ideology and understand is going anywhere anytime soon. Spin around fourteenth centuries. You don't have to say every muslim believe there's or every muslim is out to do this to understand that you do have this core. And they're doing that and it needs to be eventually excised in order to put an end to what's happening. People need to understand the difference between a muslim and his an and islamicist That is the real problem and we refuse to name it. Raymond.
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"There is a guy who's been on the program before He is somebody who's just. I mean a giant mentally first of all. He won in ninety. Three one the bodybuilding championship As a teenager and you're like okay as a muzzle and then he went on to receive his b a in his ma in history And then Dual minors in philosophy and literature literature. he also studied closely with victor davis hanson graduate courses at georgetown university He also studied medieval islam and semitic languages at catholic. University of america serves as the arabic language and regional specialist at the near east section of the library of congress where he informs a lot of people That are in the know and government officials. He also often functions as a journalist has ban media fellow at the hoover institution News analyst for cbs. News and others He produces a monthly report muslim persecution of christians. Which is why. I wanted to bring him on now. he is chronicling day-to-day the abuses and slaughters of christians throughout the islamic world. And no one is really paying attention to what is going on. I wanted to bring him on It's raymond abraham. He is the author of sword and scimitar and distinguished senior. Fellow at gates. Don't institute raymond welcome. Hi very good to be with you again. Yeah good to talk to you again I i'm concerned with what's going on in Afghanistan you know. I don't know if you're aware. But i started the nazarene fund of few years ago With isis and we have been going in and trying to free the women and children that have been made slaves and anyone did his persecuted because they're minority religious minority We've been trying to get them out. And now i think we've got a whole new country to look at. Can you tell me what's going on. Yeah absolutely Afghanistan even before what happened. Recently was Is widely considered the absolute worst muslim nation in the world. insofar as its treatment of minorities specifically christian minorities. I said if you look at Open doors international human rights organisation. They published our world watch list annually of the top fifty worse nations habitually of course it's dominated by muslim nations for obvious reasons but the top ten or top ten nations are the absolute worst and two or three of them are not islamic and usually the first worst nation in the world is north korea But then the second worst nation and the first muslim nation is afghanistan. And so you can imagine with what's happening right now. It's going to get Significantly worse for any sort of a believer in that area In fact here's a little quote from the world watch list about afghanistan says quote. It is impossible to live openly as a christian in afghanistan. Leaving islam considered shameful christian converts face dire consequences if their new faith is discovered. Either they have to flee the country or they will be killed and that's So and now with this new resurgent emboldened islamist mentality. You can be sure that it's going to get significantly worse for any Christine living nation or even nearby rim. And can you help us out on the one question. That is kind of a nagging question. And i don't understand it at all and that is why did the afghani people knock put up any kind of fight. What what what happened. There well I would say that it there what we are told and this. Actually when i'm seeing right now actually comports very well with so many other things that we talk about in the west and the american so forth. But there's what the media tells us there's what analysts and the experts tell us and then there's the reality and The people on the ground in afghanistan in these countries they don't really care for the western For for for the things that the west cherishes okay. The things that we say are are low cornerstone of western culture. Let's say a gender equality for one example Or you know eliminating the patriarchy these are things that have existed Not just in afghanistan and not. Just because of islam i would say islam actually reinforces so many of these primordial tendencies of say patriarchal and so forth not creates it it. Actually just it's reinforces it. So they go back. These ideas in places like afghanistan. You just go there and as the. Us government actually bid especially increasingly in more recent years Tried to import. You know. I don't know to what degree but it sounds like a large degree. They were trying to import. Won't culture as well. None of that is gonna fly with any afghani at all because they're just not part of that culture and they might those extent in as much as the miracle is in there and they were trying to work with it they played a long but once it an imminent that the us is leaving and so forth all charade just came off. I'm asking him off and it was right back to the way it was. And that's the idea this whole nation building and trying to import democracy to cultures that simply You know have. it doesn't resonate with at all for married. Mary reasons that's why it fails in after two decades and all the money and blood and treasure that's been spent that's why we are where we are so Because i heard tucker carlson last. I talk about how you know. We were teaching. All these woke principles and You know the these are principles. That don't sit well with half the population. Over here has this made them turn to an islamist even harder or is it just is it just like i don't care just not these guys anymore. I would argue the former Historically wherever the west in any way shape or form retreats for his perceived to be weak it has actually immensely exacerbated the idea of radical islam. So if you go back to let's say the colonial era in the nineteenth century even nineteenth century and early twentieth century Where where today. We would describe america or not. America's actions mostly europe's routine action in the middle east and music world very negative. It was toxic. Masculinity was not multicultural it was you know our highway. That's how europeans more or less came about that. Actually believe it or not and you know putting aside all judgments worked and muslims didn't feel resentful that they actually tried to catch up and they saw as the winning way and we have to be part of that culture. And that's why you saw the job go away. It's ironic today. The twenty first century. You see the job and the burqas and all that but when you go back to the eighteen hundreds and you look at pictures of women in the middle east egypt. I've ghanistan and syria these countries. They actually look like western women so they were actually trying to emulate but as much as the west starts to retreat. Start to say our ways are bad our histories awful. Your way is love is wonderful and that actually isn't seen as all. You're being polite. Let me try to reciprocate. It's actually seen as admission of weakness and then bowling's and it makes. Muslims go back to their own way. And that's why you see today. In the twenty first century a large segment of the muslim population frank to emulate the seventh century muslims. The pure new artists of muhammad's time. And so yeah. There's nothing symbiotic relationship with western weakness and islamic aggression. And i think what happened in afghanistan..