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N.F.L. Declines to Suspend Tyreek Hill After Domestic Violence Investigation
"The Kansas City chiefs have dealt with domestic violence with a few different players. But without a doubt right now the most prominent is star wide receiver tyreek Hill. I can you tell me about tyreek hill as a player and what he brings to the chiefs. Offense tyreek Hill is one. One is the most dynamic exciting explosive most fun to watch players in the NFL. He's very small wide receiver. If you were to Stanek some at the grocery store you wouldn't look at the sky and say wow he's an NFL player but when you get them on the football field key is arguably faster than anybody anybody else in the NFL. What he's able to do when he gets the ball in his hands and space weather? That's catching a pass from Patrick mahomes down the middle of the field. The Thai Rico. Taking jet sweep out of the backfield or catching a punt or kickoff return kill to the outside electrify in for the touchdown. He's one of the most exciting players in the NFL and he's expected to play a major role in the super bowl on on Sunday Probably being guarded by Richard Sherman. Can you describe what the matchup with the niners is GonNa look like yet. It should be a really great matchup between tyreek Hill and Richard Chairman. Who is the star? Cornerback for the San Francisco. Forty niners and one of the most interesting XS. and Os schematic thing. That's going on right now. Is How the chiefs are GonNa find ways to get tyreek hill away from Richard Sherman. Because they don't WanNa throw against Richard Sherman so the goal will be to find ways to get the ball to tyreek hill. Line him up in different places get him the ball and creative ways so that. They're not putting him in one on one situations against one of the best. quarterbacks and football tyreek hill was making headlines even before he ever played a single. NFL Game. Can you tell us about his college career and the incident that happened in December of two thousand fourteen yes tyreek hill kind of had a winding college football journey. He actually started at a community college and Kansas before enrolling at Oklahoma state and in his first year at Oklahoma state in two thousand fourteen he became a star immediately really because of his ridiculous speed his strength as a special teams players apart. returner this but late. In his only a year at Oklahoma state he was arrested and accused of domestic violence in an incident with his girlfriend who is twenty years old at the time and he was accused of Punching Ching her choking her and also punching her in the stomach while she was pregnant. tyreek hill was brought here to the pain county jail. His arrest comes just one week after for he was the hero of the bedlam game. So is arrest on the charge and almost immediately was dismissed from the Oklahoma State football team. He pleaded guilty into this domestic violence. Charge in addition to a battery charge and he was sentenced to three years probation. He was also instructed to go to anger management counseling to undergo domestic violence counseling. Although he was never sentenced to jail time He was able to continue his college football career when he enrolled at the university. I see of West Alabama. That's a division two school and then in April of two thousand sixteen sixty fifth in the two thousand sixteen. NFL draft against it achieves slack. Sorry Cal Wide Receiver West Alabama so it was a surprise. Actually that tyreek Hill was drafted because in in two thousand sixteen. We were still not that far removed from the Ray Rice scandal and you know tyreek Hill at kind of become kind of a poster child for a guy who got in trouble while in college in he. He was seen as one of those type of guys whose character red flags made him undrafted. He's had some issues domestic violence issue that that frankly frankly I thought might keep him from being drafted. This guy has blazing speed but the Kansas City chiefs went ahead and drafted him anyways. They drafted him in the fifth round in large part because of his forty or dash ty which was four point two nine seconds which is elite speed one of the fastest times that at any NFL players have run in years and what the reaction when he's drafted. It was pretty negative. We have to remember that. The Kansas City chiefs went through one of the most horrific horrific incidents in recent. NFL history in two thousand twelve. When one of their players linebacker named Jovan belcher killed his girlfriend and then committed suicide right in the parking lot of the chiefs training facility belcher turned one of those guns on Perkins reportedly shooting her nine times at the home? The couple shared with their three month Old Daughter the child was spared. This is a wound that was still very raw in the Kansas City community. You know very tragic senseless murder suicide aside and here the chiefs are drafting tyreek Hill player. who had pleaded guilty to very violent crime against his pregnant pregnant girlfriend and so it was? It was largely negative response especially from from female fans from the survivor community. I find that really frustrating that We're still holding up these celebrities As you know oh working on things things are getting better. We don't know what she's going through. And it's important to note that when Giovane Belcher thing happened Andy. Reid was not the head coach of the chiefs yet but he was tyreek Hill was drafted. And what's the response from from. I'm Andy Reid and from the chiefs front office when they start to see some of this backlash you know. The immediately held a press conference and tried to talk about all of the work that they had done into studying tyreek hill. Well we have our due diligence. We're regards to fooling vetting. Each one of our draft class members. They spoke to WHO His coaches and they also spoke to the prosecutors from Oklahoma in the domestic violence case and they said all right we. We believe that this guy i. I won't get in trouble again before given the opportunity for a second chancellor on the right things and so he's he's been in counseling. Continue to be in counseling. We've got a great support system here for that and that he would be a model citizen and largely for his first couple of years in Kansas City he was and despite this pushback that they're getting from fans both in Kansas City and across the country Tyreek Hill remains on the chiefs after after. He's drafted and he starts this season as punt returner. How does his rookie season go? Spectacularly from football perspective the open field. He's they're gonNA take special chance to sit in started out as kind of a wide receiver. Who is kind of buried on the Dutch art? But he was their primary punt returner and within a couple months of his rookie year. If you went to a game at Arrowhead you would see fans wearing that number ten tyreek Hill Jersey and every time that he would go back to catch a punt. You would hear in unison. Fans at Arrowhead stadium chanting tie wreak tie reek and he would feed off of it. The crowd would feed off of this energy. And you know. It didn't take long before. He became one of the most beloved players on the chiefs roster because of his football prowess and in spite of the ugly history that he had coming into the NFL and in the next few seasons go after the two thousand sixteen season so as far as football it only continued to get better for tyreek hill so as a rookie. He was primarily early. A special teams player. You know we mostly just saw him returning punts and doing a fantastic job of that. He was an all pro his rookie year. But you know after that first season he became the chiefs number one wide receiver. They moved him from a special teams roll into a role where he was going to be a major part of their offense and he handled that Smith winds up getting Franch Kansas City. He exceeded everybody's expectations as a wide receiver. She became at that point. The most important piece in the chiefs offense and then in March of last year tyreek Hill is back in the news with new allegations of child abuse. tyree kills three year. Old Son suffered a broken arm in March of Twenty nineteen. And how this this child broke his arm. That is the big question and that was what investigators in Kansas where tyreek hill his fiancee. The mother of his son were living living and ultimately nobody has determined how the child suffered this broken arm in April after about a month of investigation the district attorney in Johnson County. Kansas Released a statement that while he believed a crime had been committed they did not have evidence that can conclude Who who the perpetrator was? So that meant that it could have been tyreek hill. It could have been his fiancee. It could have been a caregiver a short time later. The case from a criminal perspective respective was ruled inactive the NFL's investigation and the Department of Children Family Services. Their investigations continued however and then the day after the district attorney in Kansas declines to press charges audio between Hill and his fiancee is released. What you'd rather him somehow or he fell one of the two? Then why does say deputy. Why Oh and just to clarify for listeners? Be Fiance Crystal. That he's talking to on this recording is the same woman that he pled guilty to abusing in college. Yes initially in April liberal part of this audio recording released and it was very damaging to tyree count. You could hear tyreek Hill could parading his fiancee. You know using threatening language is terrified of you and you say that he respects you but it's not it's not respect it's terrifying. He is terra of we need to be terrified of and the immediate reaction to that in the media from from kind of within the NFL world was how could they not charge him. After this month's later the full audio recording was released which you know didn't didn't necessarily tyreek Hill in a better light but it kind of even out the conversation a little bit reports he wrote. And if you want to rewind that night we can rewind that night to my house and pick you up and slam you know picked up and put out on my door and after that you've built bruises come from tyree waited the bruises. Come Out I'm asking. Where did the bruises come out to hit Youtube? You too and it was full audio recording that I believe is really the key piece of evidence for the NFL that led the NFL to their decision. To not ultimately punished honest. I recall after this investigation.
Did Raven choke OBJ?
"That are you Cleveland played Baltimore on Sunday and to be an NFL dot com. the Cleveland coach pretty kitchens he was fuming about what he saw in the game apparently Marlon Humphrey he thought Marlon Humphrey was choking Odell Beckham junior and so he said I'm going to talk to the league about this this is. rounds at the head coach for the kitchen right so on Tuesday today the ravens website posted a story titled Marlon Humphrey didn't choke Odell Beckham junior which included a video of it and then Freddie kitchens in this press conference was asked about the story which made him even more mad and I thought ray that's probably. Marc vandermeer DO if we wrote a story that made the opposing coach really angry any any other questions about it. I think he already played that could have been even the owner saying I want their store the what ifs well the ravens website they they push the when and I mean they don't they don't just push the envelope they like rip it open so they've they've done some stuff in the past that I don't think a lot of teams do yeah liberties I think with ray rice steaks it was the head of their PR department the P. R. director after the ray rice step wrote an entire editorial about. ray rice and what a great guy he was and I've worked with him any basically vouch for him and I thought you you know you might wanna wait until all the facts are out there because a there's a video and be this is gonna be a really bad look on you if if you turn the other way which it did but you know he just he just put himself for the pier to form do that is it is a little strange it wasn't a writer but as far as team well that was the ravens of the most out there of all of them but the title marlin I mean I'm the owner of the cliques they got from that.
Clippers, Three Decades And Thirty Years discussed on WGR Programming
"Again speaking of the clippers the sterling affairs by part series from thirty for thirty podcast of the undefeated now available the sterling Donald sterling era we certainly one that was a black eye for the NBA the thirty for thirty series reported and hosted by ESPN's Ramona Shelburne this story continues to fascinate me because I don't sterling he acted inappropriately for three decades for thirty years and it all came down to a tape why did this tape bring him down well there was something just about hearing his words on tape here you can know that somebody has beliefs and and you can feel that they're not a good person you can feel that the way they they assert their power over players are people who work for them but when you actually hear his words that's what I think did it that's what I think really broke through but I you know I remember talking to mark Mike Walters who is the guy from TMZ who broke the story and he'd never heard it all sterling he'd never he was not sports reporter he didn't know it was you just knew it was a powerful person and it got me thinking like if this tape comes out earlier if we don't have it TMZ if we don't have a different media culture where you could record somebody on your cell phone and then send it to a gossip website exited to a celebrity website does this even come out because there's certainly been people that Donald sterling has spoken like this too who have heard him speak like this before they just didn't have the receipts they didn't have the tape yeah absolutely I mean theknot what with the ray rice case at center as well or sometimes hearing seeing changes everything we were talking I remember being live during the NBA finals and twenty nineteen with Adam silver as news surrounding sterling continue to break in this all came during Adams first few months in office so in hindsight Ramona how did Adams reaction set the tone for the league and the players going forward well I think one of the biggest takeaway is that I have in in re re re reporting that's right going back in five years later is how close the players in the NBA came to boycotting playoff games over this and how how close to the brink we actually war of shutting down the league and not playing if Adam so doesn't act as quickly and decisively as he did on this now he knew that he was going to actually punish him severely he knew he was going to get rid of him it as fast as he could but he had to keep the peace for four days while they investigated whether or not this was Donald sterling on those tapes where they'd been doctored whether it's been altered he had to keep everyone in line then that would that involve conversations with players doc rivers Kevin Johnson who was then head of the Players Association and for Adams over that to work with the players as a partner in this assuring them I will do the right thing really transform the league in the way that players owners in the league work together as partners and now we see it all the time now I mean Adam silver has open line it feels funny last week actually has has that open might actually be became public and had to change a cell phone number because one of the players he give it is not his number two accidentally posted on social media that's all over his locker out the sterling fares by part series and thirty for thirty podcasts all five episodes now available at thirty for thirty podcast dot com slash
Chiefs bar Tyreek Hill from team activities after audio recording surfaces
"There's something that really concerns me. And this could be why the chiefs have not announced that they're going to release tyreek hill or he's going to stay with the team right now. He's barred from. Offseason activities, and they talked about multiple investigations and local authorities have reopened it now that they have the Levin minute audiotape from that Dubai airport last March. In here. Here's the power of the NFL draft power the playoffs game seven baseball. And again, I'm looking at CBS sports dot com. There is. Nothing. When I'm looking at tyreek hill right now. He scroll down and I see nothing on the main page. Nothing there's draft grades. There's like I said the winners and losers which will do the final two hours who are the winners. In the NFL draft. And who are the losers? But nothing ontai repeal. Maybe that's part of it may be the chiefs wanted the C Danna. What was the reaction? Season ticket holders. National media local media the audio play the story hit right around the draft or they try to vary. It hey, man. We've seen the politics at work in the NFL is biggest sports business in this country. And I'm shocked based on that audio when it came out and the track record. Of tyreek with this woman. And why he was kicked out of kicked off the Oklahoma state team. And why they took a flyer on them and drafted him and did their due diligence. Why he is still a Kansas City chief. Now, I said this about two hours ago as part of my opening huge opinion on the Saturday night that I said sports is not a right? There's no due process. You're not protected by the constitution sports is a privilege in America. Not a right. And I stand by that. And they didn't wait with hunt. There was a video. This is audio. And it shows you the power the video Ray rice. Remember Ray rice held a press conference with his wife. There was a policies. Everything was fine. And boom here comes the second video. And he's done the video there. There was audio and a nine one one call back, Greg hardy from North Carolina. But there never was the video. There's audio right now with this tyreek hill story, but not video. There is a video of him hidden kid. He's done. That's not even a debate no due process there. And what I feel is that the chiefs are kind of tiptoeing because tyreek hill is a game changer. He flat out contains a game with a return with a five yard pass from a home. So he can take it to the house. And I think that's sad. I really do. To me. This is an easy and easy. Even when the DA said, I know crimes been committed. But we can't find evidence when it came to the mother and father that child so they just got to not press charges with really seemed. Like an easy way out. So we're gonna do the winners and losers final two hours in the NFL draft over the weekend. And you tell me why the chiefs still have tyreek hill as a member of their organization. Now, I go back and forth with people, and I said, okay as convicted of a crime. But man, the dude already walked the line once here you are again, and there's a three year old child involved. And it looks like both parents are off the deep. So what do you do? You're the chiefs you ban him from any offseason workouts right now. You say you can't come stay away or deeply troubled concerned. Anna Vesta Gatien or investigations, plural.
Giants CEO apologizes after altercation with wife
"But this afternoon around noon. CEO of your San Francisco Giants Larry Baer got into a physical altercation with his wife in a public park in San Francisco. TMZ picked up the video nineteen seconds long. It's not good. Obviously, it's not good. Pam bear. Larry's wife has her phone or his phone excuse me. He goes to grab it. They get tangled up. She gets knocked to the ground. It's really what happened. I got into that. He went and grabbed the phone try to grab the phone out of a right hand. They got tangled up the chair to govern. She fell. Here's Larry bears. First statement from about two o'clock today. Regrettably today, we had a heated argument public over a family matter. We are deeply embarrassed by the situation and have resolved the issue. Here's a second statement from today. I'm truly sorry for the pain that I brought my wife children. And to the organization is not reflective of the kind of person. I that I aspire to be. But it happened, and I will never, and I will do whatever it takes to make sure that I never behave in such inappropriate manner. Again. Here's Pam bears statement. I would like to clarify the events of today. My husband, and I had an argument and public about which we are quite embarrassed. I took a cell phone. He wanted it back. I did not want to give it back. I started to get up and the chair I was sitting in began to tip due to an injury. I sustained in my foot three days ago. I lost my balance. I did not sustain any injury. Based on what happened today? They're in. I always have been and still are happily married. That's from Pam Baker. The foot thing she I I mean, I'm not saying sh-. She absolutely could have heard her foot three days ago. But that's not the reason why she fell to the ground at least from what I saw on the video. Now there it was a really weird start this entire ordeal. Because initially when it was reported. It was reported that Larry Baer dragged his wife to the ground. He did not do it. He did not drag her to the ground. Say knocked her to the ground. Okay. But it was reported to be on level ten. Like, Ray rice mad video that disturbing video. So when you see the video. Some people's initial reaction, especially the ones that I've talked to were while it's not that bad as what I I thought true, not as bad as we all I thought still pretty bad though. And you can't really eliminate. L A level when you're talking about physical altercation, and especially about altercation between a man and woman. You can't eliminate wasn't as bad. It was not level ten it's like level seven or six or five at doesn't fly with me. John's on woman heaven, I don't care if you're grabbing the grab phone paper keys. You don't do that. It looks awful. So initially it was reported to be much worse. And then people were starting to say, I it's not as bad as what? No, you're right. It's not as bad as what it was initially reported to be, but it's still pretty damn bad. And I have a problem with with certain people online talking about that. Particular part of this that it's not as bad as first reported. Well, where are we right now as a society, do do we have to see a video of a woman being hit in the face for us to go to that? For us to get to that conversation. Does she have to be hit in the face for us to say, it's a physical altercation. Is that where we're at? Because you can't do this to a woman. I'm sorry. It's very bad. Look. I don't know what's going to happen. I don't I'm just wondering where we're at. I mean, he didn't hit her. He didn't smacker. Tussled with her. And there was an altercation, and it was physical. No doubt about was a physical. You're not gonna convince me it was verbal. You know, I think it's unfair. To say, well, it's at this level, or it's not at this level. It's still a man and physical altercation with a woman wife or not. I have some questions about the video for sure. TMZ purchased the video throw it up online pretty quick, it's nineteen seconds long. But there's a coup- there's a cut in there. Edit when Larry knocks pant when Larry knocks Pam off the chair. There's a quick edit to Larry walking away, and one of the things I heard today in and actually popped into my mind when I first saw this. Why didn't Larry help his wife up? If you're not your wife to the ground. You're not good girl to the ground accident or not. You didn't help her up that looks really bad walking away. But then again, it's an edited videos of Diddy. We don't know. Did he go back after the video was over? Because every time there's a video that comes out in the news. You have to think what happened before and after because we only get a certain bit that shown to his right here. We only got one thousand nine seconds of what we know for a fact happen nineteen seconds. That's all. Multiple reports are saying that they were into an argument, fifteen minutes all the way up into that point for fifteen twenty minutes. They were arguing up to that point. So I mean, I don't know. I don't know what we're going to do with this as fans. Just a broadcasters. Just telling you how I feel and what I saw. That's all I can do how I feel and what I saw can't speculate. I'm not going to get into speculation of. Well, what goes on inside the bear house? I I don't know. I don't know. How do we know? This wasn't just a weird situation that happened. You know, you've been into an argument with your significant other. Maybe it has maybe it hasn't reached that level. It's inexcusable if it does for sure. You just don't put your hands on a woman for any reason for any goddamn reason ever. That's where that's where I'm at. Obviously, very disturbing video. Executives in sports owners and sports they should be. But they're not held to the same standard as athletes are because this if this was an athlete, white or black. We may have a more jovial tone about this. If it wasn't a giant. Because well, not jovial town. That's a really wrong thing to say. I should say the the mood around here would be a little bit lighter. Because it doesn't impact. Everybody's so much. The I retract that statement, it doesn't impact everybody's so much. So wouldn't be so down you understand what I'm saying? Is if it was an athlete, we would just be talking about it like we do everything else.
"ray rice" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"Now, it started with Ray rice, and it's continued ever since then the idea that instead of standing up admitting a mistake or taking on a situation like that. They they hunker down. They hide under the bed. They say as little as possible because they know that nothing they say is gonna make it any better. And I think it's also part of the notion that the PR function is so dominated by political operatives, and it's not about saying what's true or standing up and taking the flak is a broader game that's being played. And and I think he does need to say something or buddy, Tom and has characterized Roger Goodell is the world's highest paid pin cushion on many occasions because he's out there to take the heat while the owners hide behind the curtain, but now Goodell's right back they're hiding behind the curtain with them talking Mike Florio from pro football, talk, any other items that are sort of I know that they've talked about, you know, can we do something. With overtime. Can we do something with these calls cow important do think these two items are going to be in the off season for the competition committee? I think they're gonna let them all down. They say we'll discuss it. That's a fancy way of saying what we'll just ignore it. I mean, they always say they'll discuss they anyone about this. Well, we'll discuss it. And then we see what automatically gets discussed a lot of it depends on what ownership wants to do. I have been a proponent for four years. Now, Dan of using a video of fischel on every crew a member of every crew who's wearing black and white stripes who is sitting in a booth at the stadium who can see all of the TV angles in real time who can see the replays instantaneously as we see them at home and can speak directly to the referee and say drop a flag. Pick a flag up move the ball by yard to bridge the gap. And I think it's an important gap. The NFL underestimates what the Senate people in black and white stripes on the field who are trying to survive the violators. What they see? And what we see, and there's a huge gap. You've been on the sidelines for games before. It's feels different when you're there. It looks different. When you there then when you're at home, millions of people see these things play out at home, and they need an extra member of the crew not to be on the field. But to be on the couch like we are and to help the referee not as part of replay this isn't a replay function. This is somebody who is trained in school. All rules, all the nuances who sees what we see and can say for example to build vintage throw a flag. There was cast interference on that play that we missed in real time. Let's get it now and still may the mistakes that we've seen over the past several weeks all season long would be fixed. If they would commit to that. I don't know why they won't do it. It's going to cost money, but that would go along way toward improving the officiating function, and they don't seem to be interested. But maybe at some point somebody will realize that's a good way to try to fix. I'm right there with you suggested something like that where you just have somebody who's watching just to give you a heads up to say guys huddle. We missed one. And if you say all right when do you use that? All right. If you want to use it in the final three minutes of a game two minutes of a game, two minutes of the first half. And the second whatever it is. Your job is to get it. Right. If you had the technology to get it, right? Then do it. I don't want an intrusion an invasion of the game where it's constantly going on. And we're going to review holding in those kind of things but something like this. If you said to the NFL right now, you could have prevented that. And this is how I think the NFL would have signed up for it. They're not going to admit that publicly. But I do think that we're headed towards that..
"ray rice" Discussed on KDWN 720AM
"Think that he is just a teaching just grew up in a violent situation? He just has anger management problems. Where do you think that he may be has early onset CTE? I have no idea. I don't even know too much about how we grew up. I actually meet an attempt on Friday to talk to his mother. Talkative mood that day. I don't blame her. But yeah, I I don't know. Maybe he just has anger problems on. I'm not sure I don't know why I thought people say he's a nice kid in a sweet kid. Maybe it's just. The tape was troubling to me. A lot of comparisons to Ray rice. And I do think it's different there. I think what Ray rice Ray rice. Did was worse. Just I mean, you know, I I hate to compare these two they're both horrible. Well, I think what rights did was even more violent one hundred percent of the level of violence in this video that we posted on Friday, it didn't rise to level. Clearly of of what I was troubled by the fact that he was attack in that. He kept trying right. Her. Yeah. And I also want buddies. What would have happened, exactly? It yesterday there. Right. I said the exact same thing. Yes. Yeah. When I watched I thought creams was just more ignorance Ray rice is was that was just brutality. But he he completely destroy that woman's face. What do you say? What do you say to the people out there? They're like, well, you only pushed her he didn't mean to kick her because I've had callers this week on in saying those types of things, and I think it's completely ridiculous, Mike, what do you make? Yeah. Yeah. That sounds ridiculous. How you mean? Pick somebody. Bothered by the facts on a cloud. Even if he didn't kick her as hard as he could have sure. Sure, lack of respect for her the human absolutely when she's on the ground. Yeah. We are in agreement. If you're just joining us for speaking with Mike Babcock from TMZ sports, he is one of the few responsible for for putting this video out there. And thank God. He did. Because people need to know who Kareem hunt is and the things he's done. And I applaud TMZ and TMZ sports and people like Mike Babcock for doing that, Mike. So now, we got this in Cleveland police are taking some shots now, not literally figuratively speaking. But now they're saying that you hear about this guy. Derek Zita, apparently he had this cellphone footage. And we haven't seen it. You haven't seen it? But apparently, there's some cell phone footage that he took from this nineteen year old girl asked him to take cell phone footage. And then these police officers these Cleveland police officers confiscated his cell phone illegally, by the way. Have you heard the story? What do you make of this? I'm not entirely familiar with it burn. But I do know that some of that ACLU toward body camera footage that we have actually do see somebody who is telling a story very much like what you're saying there. Look Cleveland police are doing an internal investigation. And they're looking at the how all this was handled because there are a couple of different issues one because the police misdemeanor. They never looked at the security footage that night. And I think it's very clear to everybody. If they would've looked at the footage, which is the same footage that we have right? And they probably would have erected Kareem mind because I think it's pretty cut and dry when you look at the video. So they were looking into it there. There was another. The NFL. Apparently, according to the Cleveland police around official channels and requesting a document like a regular media organization organization would they put down low, and they had the police report swift to them. So I guess Cleveland police are gonna look at all this and make sure that they didn't screw anything up. I think the bigger issue is the prosecutor's office in Cleveland because right? We have been calling them nonstop. Continue to molest now, the, you know, six five six days, they will not answer the question, why not charge cover up? Yeah. It. It doesn't make any sense. Do you think that cream hunt should play in the NFL again? I don't know if he should I think he will. I think he's twenty three years old. He's young. I think Ray rice was on the way out we could all agree and cream on talented. And I think at the end of the day, you know, that's what matters most of these NFL team. So I think, you know, this investigation, you know, I don't think we'll even get started until the off season than I expect that it'll be suspended for at least six games, maybe more, especially now with the other instances that we know of. But I do think he'll play maybe it won't even be next year. Maybe it'll be the year after but I do think he'll play moving forward. Let's talk a little bit about the NFL, Mike. I mean, Roger Goodell they say that he's not talking. I know you guys caught up with him, and he wouldn't answer to your questions. But do you believe Roger Goodell? Do you believe the NFL when they say they claim that data dot see this video? But yet they don't tell us that they did receive a police report back in February yet, they don't talk to Kareem hot, which I find enormously. Suspicious. Do you believe that they said they didn't see this video? I keep going back and forth. The after we watching the video for the first time, I watched the video, and I do this is a major deal pro-kremlin. And the second thing that came to my mind was did the NFL know about this video. And did they see this video? And did they repeat some of mistakes that they made with Ray rice? Now, they told me we went to the residents of where it happened. And they wouldn't give us the tape. We went to police they would give us the tape. And we repeatedly called the victim. And she went talked to us. The NFL is a big powerful organization. They have security like what else? Like, no other sports league. You part of the syndicate side if you find it hard to believe that they don't have someone that could go to a Cleveland police or or or what of their security personnel. But never relationship with with somebody in that department. And they couldn't say, hey, show me tape because I got I got to know what happened. I got to see if our player put his hands on a girl do find it a little hard to believe where did it. Yeah. I don't believe anything Roger Goodell or the NFL says, that's just my personal preference. Last question for you, Mike. How does it feel for guys like you and Evan Rosenbaum to break? Just another enormous story like this. This has been talked about on every network, including CNN, Fox News every national network. They've been talking about this story almost every day. Obviously, it's the lead story on sportscenter. How does it feel that you know, you guys did your do diligence? And because of what you guys were. Able to do this scumbag to be exposed for what he did. And probably he's probably done this before. I mean, how does that feel for you? It's got to be a pretty good feeling to be able to break a story like this and to expose somebody for the person that they are. Yeah. It feels good. I love football. And I love the game. And I don't want to hurt the NFL. And I don't like to see a girl I'm video being brutal. I I I am proud of what we did. And it's it's more than just getting the video. There's a lot of other work that goes into it of making cold. And and this is something that we working on February the video was really just a combination. And it was the one major pizza that. But it does feel good not to see your work being appreciated. So yeah, I'm proud of the work Mike now that cream on is off the Kansas City Chiefs, who do you see winning the AFC? Good question. He's an irreplaceable.
Ray Rice, Baltimore Ravens And CBS discussed on Rush Limbaugh
"Officers. Former Baltimore Ravens running back. Ray rice says he's not speaking out against domestic violence as a way to rejoin the NFL appearing today in a CBS this morning interview with his white rice says he hates the person he sees in the tapes and videos, and he got a second chance. When the couple married weeks later after his
"ray rice" Discussed on 10 10 WINS
"Ray rice breaks his silence about that. Now infamous two thousand fourteen video in which the former Baltimore Ravens running back has seen beating his then fiancee. A Palmer in a casino elevator rice who's from new Rochelle's spoke to CBS this morning scale king saying what he thinks when he watches the tape. I hate them somewhere down the line. Everybody was saying doesn't deserve a second chance football. And this is actually my second chance. Right here. Right here refers to Palmer who says she knows it's hard for people to understand why she's still with him. Both talked about rice doing the work on himself. But he insisted none of this is a ploy to get back into football. A warning from the top medical official in the country about teenagers and e cig electronic cigarettes are not harmless says the US surgeon general Dr Jerome Adams calling use among young people an epidemic in a public health advisory. He urges parents teachers community groups and governments to educate and warn kids that nicotine in e cigs can be addictive and harm young brains, which developed to about age twenty-five affecting learning attention and memory, Dr Adam says e cigs also deliver heavy metals and other volatile compounds some chemicals used to make kid-friendly flavors may also be harmful correspondent Chuck Sivertsen. As of today bump stocks the device used by the Las Vegas shooter to murder nearly sixty people are illegal the department of Justice released finalized guidance this morning banning bump stocks, which can effectively turned semiautomatic. I falls into machine guns Las Vegas shooter. Stephen paddock attached bump, stocks you. His AR fifteen rifles killing fifty nine people in October twenty seventeen people who currently possessed bump stocks can turn them into the ATF or destroy them. A DOJ officials said there are tens of thousands of bump stocks in the United States. But that it's difficult to obtain a specific number correspondent alley Rogan. Reporting wins news time, twelve fifty one from.
Ray Rice speaks out against domestic violence, 'done with football'
"A KNX. Former Baltimore Ravens running back. Ray rice says he wants to help current NFL players who've been accused of domestic violence Rice's undergone counselling for years after he was seen punching out his then fiancee now wife and an Atlantic City casino few years ago rice was on with CBS this morning's Gayle king. I love football. I'm coaching. I'm hoping out you just feel the pressure. I was under of being a star. That was the person. I hated the most says he wants to be an example for other players, and that expressing his remorse on nationwide television is not just an attempt to get back into
Ray Rice says he doesn't want a 2nd chance -- he already got one
"Sixteen. Former Rutgers football star Ray rice sat down for an interview. With Gayle king of CBS this morning sitting next to rice was his now wife Janette who rice famously knock. During an argument in an Atlantic City casino king asked why she stayed with Ray after that. I know it's hard for people to understand. And I'm not here to force fever was never thought. Whether I was going to leave or not because I knew that that wasn't him in that moment. This is somebody I've known since I was fifteen years old. I knew that we have work to do. And I was willing to move forward and put in the work. What do you think Ray when you look at it now that person? I hate them somewhere down the line. Everybody was saying does he deserve a second chance football. And this is now the actually got my second chance house right here. With your wife. Doc is moments. Nice acts myself, I want to support me. But a lot of people wondered that that's understandable. But I think what's misunderstood about us is that the friends we were before the incident the release of that video ended Rice's playing career, but he stayed a part of football helping the NFL as a speaker for its domestic violence
Ray Rice on domestic violence: "I want to be in a position now to help"
"Former Baltimore Ravens running back. Ray rice is sat down for his first interview since the incident involving the chief star running back Kareem hunt. Adam Kaufman has details. Former disgraced ravens running back Ray rice and his wife j Palmer will appear on CBS this morning with Gayle king today. It's Rice's first interview since cream Hans and Reuben foster recent domestic violence and assault incidents rice, of course, on abrupt to his NFL career in two thousand fourteen after a hotel surveillance camera conham assaulting his then fiancee in an elevator. Now thirty one rice said he has no desire to play football anymore. And after a year of counseling just wants to help other athletes using his personal. Experience as an example. I know now from doing the work how gruesome it is hunters apologized for his actions, but rice said apologies mean nothing. If people don't feel you've done the work in your truly remorseful Kansas be an attempt to
Ray Rice on domestic violence: "I want to be in a position now to help"
Cleveland PD Launching Internal Investigation into Handling of Kareem Hunt Case
"But I just feel like it's so shady, it's so shady how TMZ can get this whole thing. The NFL can't the chiefs can't but TMZ pays up. It's. I wanna know. Like on to keep it quiet at the beginning did Kareem hunt half to pay right? And then from there. Did you know TMZ just triple what he paid the Cleveland police? I I wanna know how deep this goes to me. It's a little fishy. Ira fishing, and Amy Trask was on with with fits of Brooks today. And I it's part of what I've been saying on this whole time is do you do you hire? But she said it's kind of hard. Dot com on the podcast, great stuff. But she she was saying to you hire TMZ. Do you hire some type of thing like that? In have resources to go and pay for those. Videos for your investigations, I but see that's the thing is man you want to know. So many things because look you're investigating. You're you're paying up, and I feel like TMZ would end up, you know, almost like extortion. Yes. Yeah. Eight they know exactly how much the NFL's worth information is a commodity for any in especially valuable information. And at the end of the day, what the NFL needs to know is what really happened. And however, look the NFL their financial resources pretty limitless. There is some limit. But to obtain a copy of a video, look, I think they can probably find, you know, between the owners, and whoever the hell is going to be in charge of of facilitating that I think that they can come up with a number of the the bottom line is they need to know what happened in the fact that there was a video of this incident and never mind. How dumb Kareem hunt was for doing something like that knowing that it was all being recorded. But that aside knowing that there is a video available since February and Kareem hunt. Hunt felt empowered enough embolden enough to light his team. He had to have known that. They were having a hard time getting the video or didn't have access to it. I mean, they didn't see the video because if you see the video, you know, right away away like kicked out. I wonder as guard went down a little bit each week. Yeah. Good. Yeah. I'm good. Hanging over his head. Could you imagine knowing that your career your NFL career is just hanging in the balance and the day that the other shoe drops, you're toast? And I mean, it's bad enough that this happened know in any way, shape or form the fact that it happened just a couple of days after Ruben foster that to me is kind of fishy to now all the sudden and we're getting near playoff time in the chiefs are potentially in a position to win the Super Bowl. There was a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes man, this thing just stinks all high. Hell no, it just sucks, and, you know, starting with the domestic violence to the cover up to the, you know, the distribution of the video to the new police cars at the Cleveland police officers are driving and all that stuff. It's it's it's all shady shady. So following an internal review. It was determined that in February a member of the Cleveland division of police provided a report you'll appreciate you trying to do some serious here. You don't mind felt house? Doing it for felony baby. All right now. So I'll start over following an internal review is determined that in February a member of the Cleveland police provided a copy of that police report, including the assault incident at the nine which was the hotel to the National Football League. And of course, they didn't go through the official publics public records request process. Now, if you go through that process, officially then it's known that the NFL is petitioning to get that information. Because I I gotta think look the police reports one thing like if you know, there's video of it. I don't need the police report. And that's the other thing that just begs the question. Okay. There's this video like, yeah. The charges were dropped. Why why were the charges dropped? They don't do anything for misdemeanor. It wasn't. It was not a felon. It was not charges a felony. You should have been. No, okay. Yeah. No. I mean any of that stuff? Should right? No doubt. Whether or not whatever it should be a felony. But it was filed under as a misdemeanor, which they don't do stuff you're going, wait what? Yeah. That's just shadiest number one. The fact that I don't care how hard he kicked. Her didn't kick her. You know what I mean? Like that was a felony the moment that right? She's dazed. She's she's laying on the ground days has has just gotten to the point where she sitting up. She's not even standing it. And he tried to kick her in the face. I mean, whether you connected or not I mean, thank God. He didn't he barely grazed or but not the point. You know, in the fact that she was on the ground is because you knock that dude indoor. And I know that I, you know, I don't know that he did that on purpose. But I guarantee you he didn't care if she got knocked down. Clearly, he was intent on doing her harm, hence the shove and then later kicking her. So let me ask you this this Kareem hunt play in the NFL again. Yes. Yeah. I think so too. I think he's young enough. Yeah. That's why Ray rice didn't play again because he was done. He was already at the end of his career. Well, yeah. And hit what he did on video, right? I feel like a complete ass for even having compare that. You're right though. It's true world. We all we all think the same. But it wasn't as bad. It wasn't even though it is it wasn't what the wasn't as graphic as the one punch layout. Right. And even if you go on the Joe mixing stuff, right? And the other part of it too. Is that was his significant other now again, there's no excuse for this but Kareem hunt, and this gal they weren't like romantically involved. Okay there. There was a disagreement. You know, apparently tossed around my point is the Ray rice stuff. It's almost even more shocking because this is supposed to be somebody that you love and care about still married, right? That's what I'm saying. You're in a partnership to protect the whereas opposed to somebody just being a complete stranger that you had a disagreement with what you can. I think I think there's got to be a lot of answers. A lot of questions answered by Kareem hunt and not verbally by actions right in how. Have you address certain things? How have you gone about counseling? How you know if he's out all next year, then good for him. Yeah. Because then it maybe his message is being passed. You know, you know from from team to team. I just see. He's too young and talented and we've discussed talent over all this crap. Sure. I think it's going to end up being that he's gonna play and the other part of it too is I thought that the Lisa Saulters sit down that was way too soon for me. It was like it was just so, but it's so soon it's so perfect for Lisa Saulters to get it all, of course. But even though they made they went out of their way to say, you heard her in the interview say you requested this interview. So that was Kareem hunt reaching out to them saying how I wanna get a message out. And I felt like it was total damage control one. Oh one. He's just trying to me. Then who was it? Right. Yeah. That's see. That's the thing. Like, no. It's not you. It was you you can say that was out of character for me. That's not a representation of who. I am. But no, my man, there's a connect there because that was you, and that's why you're not employed by the Kansas City Chiefs anymore, and that but see that's the one thing that I feel very comfortable saying that is you that is your character. Under percent, you do that. That's your character. That is that is a part of it from the beginning. You have that in you there? Literally do not have that in me. I know that you're right me. Neither thankfully, but you're right. There's only there's there's the kind of people that will in the kind of people that won't. And so to say that that's not you now my man that is you and I just felt like right now. This was the time for Kareem hunt. Make your statement. Hey, the chiefs were right to do what they did. I was in the wrong. Okay. Cool like and then say, hey, I'm gonna make this right? I know it's going to take a long time. But I will make this right? I'm going to make some changes. If that's what we heard from Kareem hunt. And then we didn't hear from again for six months. I'm cool like, and then don't tell me show me show me the changes that you've made. Hey, I went to counseling I'm volunteering at a shelter. Whatever it is I'm a battered women's shelter. Whatever it is to show us. You understand the severity of it. And it's not all poor me. I lost my job in the NFL. It's poor victim of my heinous assault. And the fact that I don't have a job in the NFL is the right thing because I was way out of line. I felt like he was trying to do some like PR. Reparation campaign, and I just felt like it was so ill time. And when she asked him directly about what happened. He just basically iterative that he didn't matter. What happened? And it's like, no, dude. It absolutely matters. What happened? That's why we're all year right now. Ready for our society right now, they don't even six five. Oh, let's talk about Steph night. Not women beaters fellas. All right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like that that right there alone. I it just says we're uncomfortable talking about it. But it needs to be talked about an address. Yeah. And to me the moment, you ignore it. There's so many things that you know, how can how can the NFL do better and get the message across in. And and try to help out. Why think it it obviously starts younger? And if I'm NFL, I'm
Kareem Hunt apologizes, says NFL never interviewed him about assault
"You know, it's been a tough time for man. I'm extremely embarrassed. Because of that video I last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app, the videos disgusting, like we I hope we it's being spoon fed to us. This is disgusting. And this is the unfortunate part is it always seems like we need a video to believe these kind of acts are possible in these situations that the burden of proof always seems to be that high. So there's that which we can help with all of this begins and ends with Kareem hunt did an awful thing. And then we are led to believe in the chiefs came out and said Kareem was not truthful to us about the nature of these events back when they interviewed him after this incident. And so the chiefs said this video constitutes new information to us were making this decision. He wasn't truthful with us we can't condone this. He's gone. And a lot of people said that feels reactionary now I wanna play to bits of sound for you from Sunday NFL countdown yesterday. This is Louis Riddick are ESPN NFL front office insider talking about why he believes just including the lies that Kareem hunt was released by the Kansas City Chiefs in that interview, rather it just doesn't come off. Right. It doesn't come off as cream really grasping. Exactly. What is going on here? And how explosive this situation isn't how important the situation is. And he really let the kids see cheese. No choice. I don't believe that. She's just cut because there was no video. I believe it was because they really just didn't know exactly what had happened. And he they asked him what happened. And they and he's still did not know rather didn't come forth. This becomes the confusing part here is because the chiefs interviewed him within the NFL takes over this investigation. And it's league protocol where if the league starts an investigation the team will stop investigating and let the league take over. And I assume that just in a general sense seems to be trying to avoid a conflict of interest that makes sense in my mind, but the question. And then can be asked if the league didn't interview him and the chiefs couldn't get a hold of this video a lot of people are going to ask the question. I don't think it's unfair to ask if the NFL or the chiefs didn't know how much did they really want to because it seems like now this came up, and it's it's very reactionary doesn't seem like a lot of this process was proactive, and I was talking to our ESPN senior writer me at times yesterday. And the point got brought up that this in part could be due to the way things went for the NFL when they dealt with the Ezekiel Elliott case in the suspension surrounding that. And how so many people thought they were overstepping their bounds with Ezekiel Elliott based on the amount of evidence. They had their disposal. And so if you're the NFL you've got that swing of the pendulum after it was the complete other way with Ray rice and with Greg hardy and with Josh Brown. And with all these players were people in think you didn't nearly enough. And so that's the other part of the Sam ponders the host of Sunday. NFL countdown spoke about the message this sense from the NFL going forward message. Hopefully that we're going to start sending two women and two men who care in this country is that it doesn't matter. If you love the NFL in rushing last year, it doesn't matter if you're on all our billboards, or whenever you put your hands on a woman, we're done, and I hope the NFL can make that a little more clear the investigation process than they did this time I last year on ESPN radio and the ESPN app, and I thought Sam did a good job of resetting that conversation coming off of Koreans interview. Because there is a lot of we sit around, and we judge the interview, and we judge the suspension links, and we judge all these things I always wonder how productive they are. Because again, it's easy for us all to get up here. And obviously talk about how disgusting this is to see it on tape and how wrong it is. We all know that. We're not dumb. But then we get Jasper Lucas tweets is in cream hunted that interview because he's trying to line up another opportunity with another team. He's still lying. He hasn't shown remorse, and if I'm an NFL GM, I wanna see him out of football for at least a year during which he's doing domestic violence related community service, etc. That's the other thing is I don't think any of us know how to handle this. And we don't listen to enough of the right people in this because I sat and I thought man what's the length of the suspension going to be like for Reuben foster cream haunted. How far will that go for the league? And again, you can address PR in that way. But when you're trying to address the heart of the issue the way so many people in the NFL claim to want to do what do you do outside of just signaling to fans because this is a guy Kareem hunt is going to be back on an NFL football field. So in the meantime, what do you do to make sure that he comes back better? What do you actually do? That's becomes the part. That's infinitely more important. Here's how do we protect the victims in this? And how do we make sure that if these guys are going to because of their football town, we know end up back on the field. How do we? Ensuring if you're the NFL, how do you go and actually live up to some of the things that you're talking about as far as player development and ensure that these guys if they're going to be back come back better and not just come back punished in a way that's going to satiate the mob outside of your door. It's a it's an extremely complicated issue one that won't have any resolution now, but one that will certainly get into more later coming up on golden window as well. We'll switch gears completely getting back to the world of sports and get to the one staff that caught me completely off guard this morning, that's next. It's first and last here on ESPN radio the
Kareem Hunt says NFL never interviewed him about assault
"Past week something else has happened guy by the name of Ruben foster who had a run in before with the law and domestic violence had. He had another one just days after appearing in an orange jail jumpsuit accused again of domestic violence, the Washington Redskins are offering to put Reuben foster in a burgundy and gold NFL uniform the young linebacker who is face game suspensions and a weapons charge was released by the forty Niners after this latest incident. Yes, yet another incident he's released he's released because of what he did to his ex slash girlfriend. Eric. Trip. My phone number. Let me and my face claiming foster is a controversial move for the Redskins as police and the NFL investigate. He can't play for now. Yeah. But he's got talent. And he's twenty four he can get to the quarterback. The other one could score. Will you walk a fine line? It doesn't look good for the NFL cream hunts knocking to play the rest of this year. He's not. The Reuben foster thing is an interesting thing. It's an ugly. Look for the NFL that somebody claimed him off waivers. You know, why they did that first of all these twenty four. Secondly, the woman who is accusing him has already been caught lying once before when she accused him before. And here's where bad judgment comes in. If somebody accuses you of something awful, potentially destroys your life and your livelihood. And you choose to go back to them that shows that you have poor judgment. There's no guarantees ever gonna play her gas with you. I mean, he's that a lot of work to do personally with the team with the NFL with himself before even thinks about playing football. Again, the NFL's got a lot of thinking to do. But I think we all know this. If you have talent you're going to get far more chances than somebody who is essentially done. Thirty year old Ray rice, wasn't Twenty-three-year-old Ray rice. So he was no use to anybody. He probably at a year or two left Twenty-three-year-old Kareem hunt potential MVP in the prime of his career twenty four year old Ruben. Foster can get to the quarterback. A lot of thinking to do NFL. You got a lot of thinking to do. But it shows you in a lot of ways. It's a business
"ray rice" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"And then when you're out of the car pick up some of those other alternative ways of listening. So Kareem hunt. And what is next for him? You heard Rappaport say they're that it's hard to imagine. He gets claimed off waivers by team Monday at four o'clock. And I'm not as naive. I'm not such a moralist. To believe that the other thirty one NFL teams are going to shy away from hunt. Because of this TMZ video that took what people kind of already knew about hunt in this incident. And broadcast it. Displayed it too. The entire football world. And once we saw the video proof just like Ray rice all over again. All right. That's it for for hunt. He gets his walking papers. I think that somebody will claim him. And that's where this story will diverge or start to separate itself from the Ray rice saga. America watched Ray rice punch out his fiancee. And that was it for his NFL career. He never played another down. He never got another sniff. In the NFL had the change its domestic violence policy. They had to get serious about the way their players treated women or so they claimed and they started donating money to women's shelters and they started to act like they cared about. These types of issues. Put their money where their mouth was in a couple of cases. Increased suspensions for players who violated this code. But then we saw the true colors of NFL teams exposed earlier this week when Reuben foster got claimed. San Francisco said three strikes, you're out and Washington was there to scoop him up right away. I don't think a video. Of a player shoving a woman and kicking. The woman is going to be enough to end Kareem hunt Senate fell career. The Cincinnati Bengals used a second round pick on Joe mixon. That was a video of him. Balling, his hand into a fist and swinging probably as hard as he could at a college student slugging her in the face. In Nixon paid a Senate at at Oklahoma. He didn't play there. But in terms of future employment. It wasn't just a story. It wasn't just a he said she said. You could go watch him punching a woman out knocking her out. And the Bengals used a second round pick on Joe mixon. He's making millions of dollars right now. He will play on Sunday versus Denver. He's a second year NFL player, and he doesn't have his wages garnished. He didn't come into the league and have to serve some kind of suspension. He wasn't put some inactive list. He was drafted. And he was treated like any other rookie. If a second round pick was used on Joe mixon, what is going to keep a team from claiming Kareem hunt off waivers. You don't have to give up a draft pick. You're going to bring in a guy who led the NFL in rushing last year. Kansas City's problem seems to be that hunt lie to them. They sat him down and wanted his side of the story. And he made it seem like he had nothing to do with the wrong guys. Oh, yeah. This incident happened, but it was more about my acquaintances in my associations that it was anything. I did. And then the video showed him kicking and shoving. But is that going to be enough to stop a team from claiming him off waivers? I don't think so. I think the team is gonna say he's on the commissioners inactive list, and we can be his shepherd. We're in a good position. To help this player turned his life around. He's not gonna play for us. Now, he's not a part of our president. We'd like to think Kareem hunt is part of our future. I think they're just too many desperate teams. He's healthy. He's young. He's at the top of his game. He's not on the back nine of his career. Like Ray rice. Ray rice was twenty seven years old in running back years. That's ancient Lada mileage he'd already shown in two thousand thirteen that. He was not the player. He once was. He was it was a guy that was probably on the roster bubble with the ravens anyways, he could go either way if the incident never happens rice, probably plays for another two years as a kind of a backup and change of pace running back and he's out of the NFL by thirty. That would be my guess. So it just sped up the end of his career. He wasn't worth the baggage. He wasn't worth the trouble. He wasn't a good enough player anymore. Kareem hunts different. And I think somebody gonna wanna snatch him up and stress patients in understanding and forgive and forget. And let's be part of the solution. And not the problem. Reuben foster didn't have a video, but he had multiple incidents. This guy to the best of our knowledge only has one. That can keep a team like Oakland. Is that gonna take is that gonna keep a team? That has a whole at the position or maybe a guy that is going to be a free agent next year. Is that going to keep a team from putting in a claim? I don't think so. Now, the running back position is a little bit more fungible in. It's a little bit more replaceable. Guys are disposable at the position. This is not a franchise quarterback that we're talking about. So that works against Kareem hunt. You have a quarterback. Did this all my goodness. If a quarterback who was a first team all pro led the league in passing yards got cut because of character issues. He would get claimed by probably ten teams. I don't think there will be as many hunt suitors. But I think it'll be at least one. So the question becomes not only will play in the NFL again. But should he play in the NFL again? And that's where I'd like to bring you into the conversation. What becomes of Kareem hunt? Violent act against a woman. Cost Ray rice his career. The violent act against a woman. Did not keep Joe mixing from playing in the NFL. He was still a second round pick. So even though the Kansas City Chiefs, cut their losses and got rid of the guy. Do you think this means hunts career is done? Do you think that there's a collusion airy aspect to this where Roger Goodell and the thirty thirty one other owners, we'll get together and say it's not in our best interest to keep this guy in our league. Or do you think the allure of winning the desperation to win the constant demand? For good players will keep Kareem hunt employed. You think somebody will claim him on Monday? Eight five five two one two four CBS. It's eight five five two one two four two two seven, and what kind of message would that send? And how would that make you feel? Or two guys in one week two very talented players end up on waivers because of acts of violence, and in one case, we know Reuben foster is already found a new home. I think Kareem hunt is next, and I honestly will say this about Kareem hunt. I don't think and I know it's been said a million times that it is a right to that. You don't have a right to play in the NFL. That it is not something that is just given to you. It's not like every great player. Just automatically gets the right to play in the NFL. That because it's a public job. And there are a lot of eyeballs on you. And a lot of people look up to you. That more is asked out of NFL players. I've heard that before. I also think that we are a nation of second chances. Kareem hunt did something heinous in something vile and something that you stress. Teach your kids to never do. But I do think he has a chance to not only turn his life around. But to become an example that when you do something like this, this doesn't mean your life in your career is over. So I would advocate and push for hunt to be suspended for twelve games to a year. Twelve games to sixteen games would sit. Well with me. And then from there, it's on Kareem hunt. If he shows contrition, he's already put out a statement apologizing for his actions, but that's that's only a baby step. There's got to be a lot more. Even though he might be uncomfortable doing it. Maybe it's not something that comes naturally to him. He's been put in this situation. Now, he needs to make the most of it. If you're is agent. You gotta tell Kareem Mont, look, maybe you spend a couple of days feeling sorry for yourself. Even though you only have yourself to blame after that. You've got a you've got to change your life by accepting what you did in then. Leading a fight against domestic violence and violence against women. Look at Michael Vick. He became an activist for animal rights. He got in with the humane society. He lobbied for legislation for stricter legislation. Against dog fighting and other laws that helped dogs and forced pet owners to be more responsible. So that's what Kareem hunt needs to do. And if he does that then I do think you should have a job. And we'll see what he does with that second chance. I don't think he should be banished for life yet. Now, if he doesn't show contrition, and he acts like a jerk. Well, then. Yeah, this should be at for him. But I don't think there should be a Ray rice situation where your career is over because TMZ found the video. So I'd like to get America's thoughts on this next Kareem hunt. Do you think you'll get claimed on waivers? Do they kill get signed by a team this week? Do you think you should play in the NFL again? Do you think he's lost the right to play in the NFL permanently? Eight five five two one two four CBS. That's eight five five two one two four two two seven eight five five two one two four two two seven. I want to hear from you. Also coming up. A former NFL running back in Super Bowl champion. We'll tell you how the chiefs pick up the pieces from here and move on. I major Phillip pony. The show is called the pony express. It CBS sports radio the national that is now over twenty trillion dollars. What happens next rising inflation drops in the dollar's value? 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"ray rice" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"I am Jim bask while the Kansas City. Chiefs releasing running back Kareem hunt after video surfaced that show the NFL's raining rushing champ knocking over and kicking a woman and a Cleveland hotel hallway February TMZ posted the video of hunt being restrained by several friends before pushing the woman to the ground where he proceeds the kicker police were called to the scene during the February tenth incident. No charges were filed and Adam Schefter ESPN NFL insider on sportscenter with Kenny Mayne, Adam Schefter joins us. Now. There's gonna be a lot of second-guessing after everyone has seen the tape. Chiefly hadn't TMZ get a hold of something the league in the chiefs were not able to can you could have asked the same question during the Ray rice situation. How did TMZ get the Ray rice video that the NFL couldn't? After months, so it's the same situation years later. Nothing's changed. Nothing's different. Again, the reaction is so extreme here that a team sees the video for the first time after months of knowing about this then takes it upon itself to release the player, and obviously TMZ caused it in both situations at this particular point in time. It's hard to explain how the NFL couldn't the NFL said that requested the video from the prosecutor's office. Instead, it turned it over to legal. Authorities could not get it from legal. Authorities could not get it from the police department could not get it from anybody try Kareem on obviously was called in to the chiefs offices to explain what happened the chiefs felt he was not being truthful as they mentioned in their statement. And when both sides claim that they saw the video this afternoon for the very first time that was when both sides acted the NFL cream on on the Commissioner's exemplifies and about a half hour later that she's just flat out released them. You saw the statement on tax via justina Anderson from cream hunt. I know it's early but given the Ray rice precedent? What would you expect his future is the National Football League? It's murky right now, I think that you're looking at a situation you're Kenny where the one thing that cream hunt has here is that he's coming up for situation. He's on the Commissioner's exempt list. He's twenty three years old. He's on his rookie contract. We've seen other players come back from certain instances of trouble. We've seen other players that have been basically banished for life. So everyone has been different. But again, it's so fresh right now. And it's so hard to think that anybody will give cream on a chance anytime soon down the line. Yes. Perhaps maybe at the appropriate time when this contrition when there's apologies when time has passed. But right now, it's hard to picture that. So at the very least I think it's fair to assume that it's two thousand eighteen. Season is over his two thousand nine hundred and season is in question. And so is this NFL future? We'll have the story concurrence of that going on with the Washington Redskins NFL nation reporter, Adam Tyzzer covers the cheese for ESPN joy to earlier with his insight on how Kansas City came to the quick decision to cut ties with a talented running back. Well, you know, there was some swift action. And that would indicate the chiefs we're pretty strong. So preschool about. The action. They took. You know, the the. There was really nothing for them to investigate. I mean, I think they felt like they had an idea of what really happened in. This instance, mainly from getting it from Kareem hunt. And then the video comes down. They see it for the first time. And all of a sudden, they have a very different view of what happened that night out in Cleveland back in February. So you know, I think the chiefs once they saw the video and once ya. Showed something dramatically different than what they'd heard some Kareem hunt. They were they ready to move again the chiefs and NFL aware of hunts incidents since it occurred with much like the case involving former ravens running back Ray rice, which you've heard plenty of the video. Brought immediate action domestic violence has been a major issue in the NFL in recent years one that struck home in Kansas City in two thousand twelve she's linebacker Jovan Belcher killed his girlfriend before killing himself at the teams practice facility was later found to have suffered from CTE most notably the rice it is incident in two thousand fourteen when a video showed him knocking out his then fiancee now wife in an elevator in Atlantic City. Hotel rice was originally suspended two games by Commissioner Roger Goodell. But soon after that was suspended indefinitely by the league and ultimately released by the ravens never to return to the NFL. Louis Riddick on sportscenter with John Anderson. Great question as to why TMZ is able to get a hold of this kind of evidence. And the NFL is always with reactionary type of situation toward them to happen to play catch up. And then they're having to make drastic Lewis in order to maintain your credibility. That's a tough situation. Always being you didn't think that this would ever happen again in this way. But it almost seems like a carbon copy again is out of me two of the Ray rice situation, and that's unfortunate. Because again now, look more this happens. The more the NFL's credibility comes into question. The more people say look at empty can get it you can get it. And if you care enough about it, you'll do whatever's necessary to get it, obviously TMZ did why can't you those are questions that I can't answer Adam cancer, those are questions for the league office for the people who are responsible for getting that kind of information. So they're going to have questions to answer. Once again, you're listening to sportscenter allnight on ESPN radio and the ESPN app by Jim Baskerville,.
"ray rice" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show
"I understand title nine and I understand this contract and you know he's supposed to up hell, you know these type of things, but it seems like we're just, you know, he's getting away. I mean, he's the one who beat his wife. You know, either want who while he's also he's also fired. He's also fired, but I get Steve, I get that he's got fighting off his job, which is great. Absolutely great, right. You know, probably urva should've fired him earlier than that. I I'm with. I'm with all that my problem is all this Vitry out be aimed at urban Meyer. I mean, I guess I'm from the old school, man. What I'm saying is. Is. You know, I get that. You know, there's all this. How you say. Let me let me help you out. Great. Let me help you. Okay. First of all on the stand because times have changed. We've evolved as a society and this heightened awareness awareness about domestic violence and domestic abuse. Then ever before credit Ray rice. And the situation and Ray McDonald for the San Francisco forty Niners, Greg, hardy, formerly of the Carolina Panthers and and then the Dallas Cowboys credit a few others as well. We get that. We understand that, but it doesn't a gate. The fact that it's the right thing to do. It doesn't gate the fact that vast majority of times women have been victimized. If you are urban Meyer, I'll give you this reason why you should be far more hardcore about urban Meyer. Then you sound Greg. And that's this urban Meyer quote had a no tolerance policy when it came to the kids, but somehow someway. Was very tolerant when it came to one of his assistant coaches. Can you explain that real quick. Why don't have time to hear your response? But what I will tell you is urban Meyer had a no tolerance policy when it came to kids, but did not have that no tolerance policy. When it came to one of his assistant coaches who happen to be the grandson of his mentor. And when you have that level of consistency, you invite the vitriolic urban Meyer is bringing in.
"ray rice" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"And you mentioned this beatty now with with ray rice unless you see it no you eat tended i was a doubt but you tend to like you don't not doubt death at the rome were but you tend to feel like the two sides of it you know what i mean like whoa whoa what happened what actually happened i didn't see it when you see it you know no there is no doubt no doubt about it right could illafford the video very reis 'cause i told you we know if i told you the store you know this and i think some of our listeners do maybe not this hour but i've done right brace into gravity from high school and so when i first heard about this incident in this elevator down in atlantic city here new jersey it was kinda like i was probably just them getting you know aggressive with each other and who you i gave ray the benefit of them because i know mmhmm right and i have mayor de with him is a gives split great citizen for the baltimore ravens in all of his tenure there mmhmm right until you see the video and then that changes the perception completely that that's domestic violence issues because she until you see it kinda don't know you you you have a preconception about at whatever that preconception is where is was sexual assault where it's not there no relationship right it's not a woman and a man who know which other and certain points they're doing things sexually and consensual it's you a male or female could be one making unwanted inappropriate advances towards some one that's the mi2 movement and that's what has zero tolerance in our society right now and that's what's causing people to lose their jobs in in in in be turned upside down organizations completely upside down so there's two very different issues going on with the delic's mavericks the one domestic violence one we have a little bit of clarity on because mark cuban as spoke about it and.
"ray rice" Discussed on WPRO 630AM
"To the ray rice incident every time now because it's necessarily the worst but it's a fruit of a poison tree types that you should not not that good del was perfect before the race situation but for me i mean i watch a lotta documentaries as you know and a lot of people assume that because i watch a lot of these documentaries and i'd like to talk about these documentaries that i'm naturally a conspiracy theorist win and actuality the the polar opposite is true and while i love the b a conspiracy theorist unfortunately conspiracies involve people and all people myself included cannot be trusted so therefore when he trying to get together skeptical that's what i mean like in terms of conspiracies where you know if one person talks than it's over and for so many situations to to hinge on a person or people for for me that's just kind of unbelievable among other elements however get into my point the thing with ray rice the way goodell handled that or to be more to the point the way he wasn't able to handle any mishandled but yeah the way he mishandled thank you are the way goodell mishandled that pretty much put every other thing he was going to say or do after that into question because they came out in the authoritative lee said acts and then when their pants were pulled down when the high tide came in it was discovered that it was actually why and for me that was the second he lost all credibility so therefore like i said fruit of a poison tree every decision he makes after that to me at best i'm going to be looking out with a crooked i if not just flat out not believe that at the very least his intentions are what he claims they are because again you go back to that one such is it the worst of all the situations i'm not saying that at all i'm just saying that for me that's a line of demarcation where i put that flag in the sand right there and everything after that you know all the b c a d stuff that's ad so after ray rice a are are after ray rice every everything roger goodell said i've basically ah not bothered to car pro compartmentalize in my brain and i've let it go in one ear and out the other because while he may be a.
"ray rice" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"Since two thousand two mayweather has been accused of violence against women with alarming frequency he pleaded guilty in two of those incidents in and another he was convicted only to have the charges dismissed four years later the most recent incident in which he hit his ex girlfriend in front of two of their children at five am in 2010 resulted in what we all know ninety day prison sentence then it goes on into gory detail in this history of domestic abuse and violence is is way beyond to me greg hardier ray rice and now he owns a strip club in las vegas called girl collection is just disgusting to me with that history and we all know each posted a race of racist rant against pac yell before their fight and he called mcgregor a gay slur but i'll be the first to admit mcgregor made racist remarks to floyd and about floyd i give you that this is the final big point the just blows my mind after all we talked about on the show the black communities issues with are now president donald trump floyd mayweather junior supported trump before the election and then once trump was elected he flew to new york to sit within and paolo around with them when he became president and now floyd is saying that he's fighting for quote unquote all the blacks in the world is just like why i'm sorry i'm sorry just loses me now let's just bring it back in the ring for a second i have tried over time because floyd and really great at what he does i've tried to like him as a fighter.
"ray rice" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"Fight for ray rice are greg hearty bail even tom brady and deflated football's this is what the union does that there are supposed to do it but the the issue is how important is this to fight for some of these guys you know they're the one per centers the guys who get in trouble zico elliott greg hearty ray rice you're you're gonna fight for what to protect these guys and i think that's really which kind of interesting here you you want to threatened to strike for a handful of players accused of domestic abuse or a treated unfairly by the league for uh from a legal perspective it's dangerous to do that and i don't know if that's what the nfl players association is trying to do make no mistake about it the tom brady hearing that situation from the players association side was more than just about tom brady it was about getting leverage it was about getting an independent arbitrator to hear these cases you know they it it it's important but not important enough for these guys to put it into collective bargaining agreement or strike because of it but that's what's happening now with the players sociation with his eke ula now yuval also had sort of this smear campaign where the nfl says how could the nfl players association put out this information text messages from a sikh you elliott's accuser make that public as if that should stand alone and see what kind of person she is that she's trying to blackmail him i did hear from somebody who was on the other side with the players sociation who said i can't believe that we were that we've been falsely accused with this that the players association did not do this not i'm hearing for somebody saying we had nothing to do with this now i'm i'm going to guess if it if it's en anybody it's ezekiel elliott s lawyers who want to put this out there create some doubt that's part of their job they're trying to protect their client but to the nfl to accuse the nfl players association of putting it this out there almost trying to poison the water a little bit before this hearing and the reaction was pretty strong from the other side vis born that that's embarassing to.
"ray rice" Discussed on Hot Takedown
"Yeah so after adjusted its it was an average in the pre ray rice era of one point six games for any incident of violence against women and since then the average is four point two games for suspensions would it starts at six which was like the big kind of thing after ray rice and then you know they find ways to adjusted down in the case of ezekiel it they did yes so there's some numbers these stuff to the story but also thon number story i think pretty clearly there's competition about whether or not suspending players for more games elites less reporting because then i if your own personalized the hood as a woman is dependent upon your partners and he's suspended without pay that affects your own life cetera kate i'm curious you know you are on tv more than meal an i talking about this sort of thing yeah and wondering you know whether the story feels like something worth talking about within the the larger scheme of things beyond the football ram acids what's right there are some on the field obviously again certainly people wanna talk about the fantasy implications and all that and that's a separate thing won't someone please think of the fantasy of somebody please think about their fantasy thank you like matthew various covering that forests or good but the larger conversation when race happened three years ago it seemed important and that the general sports public was somewhat malleable to like oh wow what's going on oh really we didn't know we didn't know that there were that many accusations in past years oh we didn't know that this was a larger a cultural issue now i think were pass that point and were to a place within where i think most consumers of the nfl have made up their minds about how they feel about the nfl's like shadow justice when it comes to this topic and made up their minds in general of how about how they respond to this and made up their minds it in their mind it's like a political issue and that they aligned themselves with like whatever you know oh that's the left these who feel that way and i don't know over the last year 'cause i've got i've talked about zeke you'll elliott on the radio show josh brown before that that i have ever.
"ray rice" Discussed on Mason & Ireland
"So again i think he is he hill it is a bad guy and i think he's probably not done getting into trouble but josh brown twenty reported arrests of domestic violence they did their own investigation they found him one game as you heal elliott never charged never arrested never arrested six games book it it there's just a bell ringing in my head said this punishment doesn't fit the crisis what has been collectively bar i understand it is a sixgame suspension in he can appeal as much as he wants there is no way look roger goodell made a huge mistake with ray rice uh when he only game two games until the video game at a huge mistake with josh brown i don't think the nfl is ever going to make that mistake again six games is what is collectively bargain they did a ton of investigation over the course of a year i would argue that it the investigation went on to lawn but they reached the conclusion they saw enough that he use physical force against woman and if you use physical force against a woman is a sixgame suspension period he got exactly what he deserved i i think it's going to get knocked down unless he botches his appeal i think i'd why does the i santa for roger goodell tanaka down that he did with rothlisberger precedent is my answer i did but this member this is new the six game suspension is new and remember he gave ray rice a twogame suspension ended up to be one of the most embarrassing taco not protecting the shield ended up to be one of the most embarrassing an awful incidents in the history of the league when that video surfaced there is no way the cadel in the nfl is going to take a chance by the way that even more evidence surfaces during a civil trial and there's probably going to be civil litigation against izyk ezekiel elliott where there will be more incriminating evidence that comes out so i to me.
"ray rice" Discussed on The Ryen Russillo Show
"Ray rice deserved to be suspended if ray rice was was not suspended suspended it was an injustice not all leads who uh navy or or ray but said also to the league to the league's fans to the kids that watch these games and i'd allies of these men who are gifted with these talents i do agree with many people i would like it just to make more sense i would like there to be some black and white tangible things we can lean on when it comes to making these decisions but to walk around in everyday life not be behind bars i mean there's a a burden of proof that goes along with that what what happens two men who warned caused a reiter men who are prosecuted the the burden of proof is set high because it changes their lives in in a way that even not playing an nfl can to planina nfl a it is a blessing and is also a gift and it's also privilege so the burden of proof doesn't have the be that high as high as it does legally so i i agree with a lot of people that i would like it to be you know the evidence is the evidence and if we know the evidence and it is not guilty we go with that but not guilty does it mean innocent and people have to know that totally agree strong rebuttal strong about a rice is a perfect example point out wherever ones then forced to look we see it was he the video everyone's forced to look at the criminal justice mikio how they get their with that right and so how do we follow that president yoshii a really a falling however so now only put the difficult question back to you are you comfortable with the nfl's burden of proof which is more likely to not it's like fifty one percent essentially are you comfortable that as the standard of guilt as a player i wasn't.
"ray rice" Discussed on WLAC
"Field whether or not that the ball was deflated now what the hell the science is whether there was any basis in reality for the penalty of four game suspension that roger goodell gave the tom brady all of the ensuing court fight everything that surrounded it you and i may well have believed that it was the wrong decision but if the time and i continued to defend roger goodell here because that went directly to the game itself in some way right in other words if you believed roger goodell that the ball being deflated gave the in the new england patriots a competitive advantage vin it was perfectly proper for him to conduct the investigation that he did and to levy the punishment that he did but what i i have been consistent on for over a decade now is the stupidity of the nfl conducting its own investigation into whether or not players commit violent acts or felonious acts in their opinion instead of waiting for the criminal justice system to make decisions now to roger goodell 's credit if you want to give him any he is suspended a lotta people under these powers a lot of people who have not been charged with a crime you're remember been rothlisberger initially got suspended six games after he was investigated for sexual assault ended up i believe serving a fourgame suspension even though no charges were ever filed but in this situation the nfl now has created a strange universe where fans when players get in trouble now immediately wonder what the nfl is going to do as opposed to wondering what the criminal justice system is going to do this crystallized a mini sense of the word for me in light of the ray rice take coming out when the ray rice tape came out the vast majority of people out there didn't say man i can't believe the state of new jersey had direct evidence that ray rice knocked out his thenfiancee who he later mary his wife on tape and decided to let him play down to an issue where he had really no significant punishment at all instead everybody said wow how does ray rice only get a twogame suspension man roger goodell muscle wall of.
"ray rice" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"To punitive again obviously handling domestic violence is a critical priority in sports criminal justice life but you worry about this if ray rice banners from the nfl and other players get punitive punishments you worry about maybe not the elliot situation but you worry about women being willing to come forward and talk to the authorities or talk to the nfl and apart the nfl puerto also makes me uncomfortable because they saw what happened a ray rice and if you're genera rice or if you're josh brown's wife why believe reading that story last you like she was not a fan of the nfl the giants involvement and you have to be sensitive to that because this is a woman who is going to the she's going to have a relationship with josh brown for the rest of her life it's a very delicate situation that i don't really feel comfortable having at the adjudicated by roger goodell of all people based on how much power he has i'm going to switch gears a little bit off this and we can revisit this at the top of the hour but i wanna talk about some brighter things in the nfl how early is too early to get excited about the young quarterbacks in the nfl we'll discuss eight five five two one two four two two seven mike meltzer infra bill simonsen on a huge show time now for a sports update here's peter schwarts the sports fla far mike on the baseball scoreboard top seven in washington the nationals lay the giants 31 back in the first during the nationals rice harper tripped over first place trying to run outta groundball way down grabbed his left knee and had to be taken off the field if we get further update we will let you know in the.
"ray rice" Discussed on GSMC Football Podcast
"And you know this is the first time that ray rice is working with the nfl in any official capacity since that video of him punching his wife janette rice surfaced in two thousand fourteen so as big three years since ray rice has worked with any type of capacity with the nfl you know ray rice did say that he wanted to contribute in some way in the nfl of about talking of not to pretty much not commit any type of domestic violence nano don't committed elo that's what he wants to do he wants to send a message to his players right now any no usa today's christine brennan reported that a uniform approach rice about appearing in the video for program end there's also a lot of players are also involved a cluding steve smith who is retire right now working forty in a phone network egat's jason win he got tory smith there are all going to take part of this to discuss her experiences grown up with domestic violence in their homes so right now at ray rice has apologize he's been wanting to give back into the nfl in some way to pretty much you know discuss this issue an pre must try to tell players from not doing it and you know when we think of when this video first came out uh you know the the nfl didn't have the public image at info wasn't tarnish uh you know i don't i think when this video came out.
"ray rice" Discussed on WEEI
"Rice which to the video ray rice and i he has been doing he's been on the he's been doing this tour for a while i'm saying hey i learn my lesson these talks to you know rookies you talk to you know of whether it's football players basket up i hope top anybody about you know what he's learned from his mistake but to people do you think the public there's a public by it after that it that video of lives and lives in lives for so what what is stronger what is easier for you to receive is that ray rice a story of redemption or is it ray rice video a video power videos like i mean that's people are the chains i'm not most right well it's funny you should say that because the report on nfl network today is that joe mixon has been taken off the patriots yeah rapoport they are not interested joe mixon and he could all the tenth round they know thank you and i think it's cause the video because whatever accusations there may have been out there sorted though they may be realist though they may be what's the videos out there what's everybody seen it oh thanks were out like the nfl was out didn't but into the combine in and you know like a lot of other teams to set of this one's going to be tough according to nfl network today the patriots took i'm not that that they took him off the board devin nfl network reported today they taken mix an off their board not interested and i think it because of the video we get fight the video that when i'm wrong with that and we've talked with this before one bill they'll check out press conference during the season in which is back to back ray rice in adrian peterson dimension i'm let you don't both was out for the you know where you said he respected him as a person respect yeah right i respect both as as people ray was enough football.