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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

08:22 min | 4 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Coming out Thought this was kind of big news but as things went on and ultimately this this breaking news. Podcast is about the steelers depth chart going into week one but we'll get there in just a moment real quick. Those jersey numbers that came out jamir jones changes jersey number. Two forty buddy. Johnson moved to forty five wait. I thought that was joe schubert. Yeah joe schubert moved to number ninety. Three also kello witherspoon. He chose jersey number twenty five. They also assigned jersey numbers to the other practice squad players. That weren't part of the steelers. Most notable karl joseph who was reported to possibly be moving up to the steelers fifty three man roster once he clear some protocols is number thirty. I'm not gonna get into all the others at this time. But the other thing is the pittsburgh steelers chose their captains for the twenty twenty one season. They selected ben rothlisberger on offense cameron. Heyward on defense and derek watt as the special teams captain so Missing from last year there was five captains had to on offense to and defense and special teams which was jordan dangerfield. So derek watt first time captain for the steelers in his second year rothlisberger and hayward has been seven straight years. That's as long as hayward's been captain. Rothlisberger has been captain thirteen times at eleven straight years. Two thousand ten. He was not a capital one in there. But the other offense of captain from last year was mark pouncey who retired and on defense. It was tj watched who there was some news with watt. Today he did not return to practice in any different role the what he's had throughout training camp so that kind of setting off some more panic and steelers nation I would say wednesday when the team practices and they have to give an injury report. That's going to be a real big indication with tj watt. Talk about him in a little. Bit more ear on this depth chart and we'll get more information tomorrow from head coach. Mike tomlin and his press conference scheduled for noon on tuesday. So let's get into this depth chart real quick because of some very interesting things. Let's let's start off with the offense and we'll go with the offensive line if went by the older depth chart. They only had four offensive lineman because they hadn't filled in a name for the starting right tackle. But as of right now with the new depth chart from the pittsburgh steelers. here's your starting offensive. Line right tackle. Chook sikora for moving back to the right side like he played last year. Right guard trae. Turner center kendrick green left guard. Kevin dotson left. Tackle dan moore junior. So that's the offensive line. That's the move. A lot of people expected some people were really reading into jc. Half an hour still being the first player listed on the depth chart that was simply because they had a mirror. Preseason the steelers hadn't changed it but kendrick green is. You're starting center with an hour and reserve joe. Hey is listed reserve tackle on both sides a bj fini's listed as the backup to turner on the right side at guard and left guard with kevin. Dotson the backup is listed as rashad coward Let's go ahead and jump into the wide receivers. The steelers have three wide receivers listed as starters. They have it in three different slots and that jujubes. Misuse turkey. Andre johnson and chase klay poll. The backups to those players. Are they have ray ray mcleod. He's behind smith schuster. But i don't know if that matters and they have james washington listed by the johnson. I would read into who they fall behind. That's just the order that they listed him at tight end. Here's what's interesting. Even though there was only one slot they squeeze two names into it. They have both eric. Hebron and pat fair moves listed as the starting tight end on. The first team was zach. Gentry as the reserve quarterback is what we expected. Ben rothlisberger one mason rudolph to duane haskins three derrick watts listed as the fullback and For running back is nausea harris followed by bennie. Snell junior and then kaelin balaj. That's the way the steelers have it for now. We'll see how the playing time shakes out when that ends up coming around. So there's the offense the defense here's some interesting stuff The way they have the defensive line they haven't listed as a defensive tackle at defensive in a nose. tackle it generally been hayward to it. Awhile well steph. Onto its on injured reserve so a tackle. They have cameron heyward backed up by isaiah louder milk at defensive and they have chris worm leaves the one and carlos davis the to and then at nose tackle. They have tyson allah with isaiah bugs in reserve now for outside linebacker. Trent jordan watt one. Tj watt is listed as the left outside linebacker on number one on the depth chart that has not changed we. Hopefully we'll hear more from coach tomlin about this tomorrow. If they plan on him being available for week one and then on the on the right side is alex highsmith. The reserves are the same for both they did it for both melvin ingram's listed as the reserve for both players followed by jimmy jones when looking at the inside linebackers. They have devin bush listed at the left. Joe schober the right. I'm not gonna read into left and right there but those are your two inside linebackers the next set of inside linebackers because remember the steelers have six is marcus allen and robert spelane then the third set is buddy. Johnson and ulysses gilbert the third. So that's kind of interesting especially if the steelers are going to have to make any more roster moves. You're probably looking at guys that are further down the depth chart and a lot of people feel that inside linebacker where they have six players could be somewhere where they have to make a move otherwise we'll get to that soon became cornerback. Here's what's interesting. The steelers in the past have listed slot corner or nickel or nickel corner as a starting role. They do not have that listed here. They do not have any quarterback listed in that way so all they have is left and right. Which is joe hayden on the left in camp sutton on the right on the first team. The second team is justin lane behind. Joe haden and james pierre behind cam sutton then. They're the third team has a pillow witherspoon behind justin lane. And arthur. Let behind james. Pierre no surprises it safety as its toronto edmonds. A strong safety minkah fitzpatrick is free safety. Miles killebrew's backing up crow edmonds with trae norwood backing up. Mika fitzpatrick finally to finish things off. Let's talk about the special teams. No really big surprises. When it comes to the specialists. Of course a chris boswell as the kicker presley harvard the third is the punter and holder and christian koonce as the long snapper. Ray ray mcleod is listed as both the punt returner and kick returner for the first team now. His reserves are let's go punt returner. I is deonte johnson to and then james pierre third when on kick return it goes rain. Mcleod benny snell junior as the second kick returner in jeans peers. The third It'll be interesting to see when he comes back from injured reserve. Anthony anthony mcfarland where he would fall with. It would be a head of railway mcleod behind because he was used a lot during the preseason so there is a pittsburgh steelers depth chart but they released today very interesting. It's funny because there's it's not a lot of big surprises but more a less or less there was a lot of confirmation of speculation on especially when it comes to the offensive line. So it's interesting with with these things just to see how they lay out in the in the reserves and everything else. I am pleased to see. Tj watch still there Probably because he is on the fifty three man roster. They're not going to remove him but they did list him. As the first player we should get more information on. What in the coming days but until then make sure that you.

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

08:33 min | 5 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Pittsburgh steelers fans welcome to this breaking news. Podcast of the pittsburgh steelers fifty three man roster. The steelers had to cut down to fifty three players by four pm. On tuesday august thirty first and this is their first fifty three man roster for the two thousand twenty one. Nfl season now. The reason. I say it's the first is because it's not going to be the last honestly this roster may only last a day if there's anyone that they're wanting to get to the i. r. to have come back early or anything like that and he kind of trades and kind of ups those are still could becoming so this is just the first version and it's actually quite interesting with some of the things that the steelers chose to do so. Let's break it down real quick. There was really no surprise at the quarterback position. It was ben rothlisberger mason rudolph and wayne haskins and joshua dobbs went to the injured reserve list as part of the announcement of this which is interesting because if he's going to the into reserve less now after not being on the roster for the day. This isn't un eligible to return thing this is. He's on the i are now. They could've put. I mean the the actual statement was that he is on the reserve injured list. Now could there be an injury settlement later if he's eligible to to play things of that nature. Perhaps i'm not sure. But i'm not surprised by this because if someone someone being on the i r this allows joshua dobbs to be on the sidelines for steelers games which i think is something that they ultimately want it. But let's not go too much into that. let's talk about. Who's on this team. The steelers kept four running back and fullback they. They're running. backs are nausea harris. Benny snell junior anthony. Macfarland junior and caylin balaj. The steelers released trey edmunds and jalen. Samuels i thought it was a chance that could maybe keep trey edmunds. Because he does some different things as h back. I think he's a prime candidate for the practice squad and possibly even elevation if they would need it so i don't think his time in pittsburgh is completely over. Also the steelers kept fullback derrick. What as expected and the steelers went with the five wide receivers that a lot of people had them projected to have all the way back ever since julius misuse to return so it was juju smith schuster. James washington deonte johnson. Chase klay poll. At ray ray mcleod in no particular order. The steelers also kept three tight ends. When eric hebron pat fair youth and zach gentry. They released kevin reiter as long as he goes through. Waivers everything he's another prime candidate for the practice squad. Additionally then we get to the offensive line which is kind of crazy with what the steelers did here. I wasn't sure or this is going gonna keep rashad coward or bj finney. Rashad coward a bj. Finney didn't keep either of them. They're going with eight offensive linemen. Which is kind of crazy right now when you think about it but it's chew chor four zach banner kevin dodge and trae turner kendrick green dan moore junior joe hague and jc half an hour. So this means that the steelers did not their backup guard right. Now is half an hour so i have a feeling we might see one or both of these players back on this roster sometime soon. I wouldn't be surprised if one day later if player. I've hinted at this monday morning before. Other things even came out that we could possibly see zach banner going on injured reserve early in the season with a chance to return and you can return after three weeks. Not three not three games three weeks the way i understand it which means that earlier. He goes on the sooner he can return. But that's the offensive line. Only eight offensive lineman at this time they might be looking to add another one outside of the organization or to have one of those other ones. Come back it'll be really interesting to see how this plays out over the next several days. So that's a total of twenty four players on offense so they're one less than they normally have on offense so let's go ahead and slide on over to the defense and the question was. Oh my goodness which defensive lineman of the steelers not gonna keep. Are they going to. Are they going to keep an extra one to keep seven. If so they still gotta lose one is going to be mondo bugs auto milk. Who's it going to be so looking at it. They kept them all. They kept eight. Defensive lineman cameron heyward stefan to it. Tyson allahu chris warmly. Henry mondo isaiah bugs. Carlos davis and isaiah louder milk. All of them all of them to start off on this fifty three man roster next did outside linebackers. The only kept four. The only kept for the big. Three of tj watt. Alex smith and malcolm melvin ingram. The third and the fourth was jamir jones who played the best in the preseason. So that was one that was kind of interesting what they would do with quincy rochet. He did not make the team. I'm sure they'd love to get them on the practice squad if he can get there. But here's where. I get surprised that they that they didn't keep quincy rochet but they kept six inside linebackers. That which were devon bush. Joe show bert. Roberts spelane buddy johnson marcus. Allen and ulysses gilbert the third. I was really surprised that they would keep that many inside linebackers and so if you outside linebackers but that's just what they decided to go with. And that's that's very interesting so ten linebackers when sometimes. There's only nine eight defensive lineman when a lot of times. There's only six or seven. You already had one more guy on defense because the guy on offense but if you're counting and you're and you're saying okay. They still going to have three specialists. How many they got back. They only kept eight defensive backs four corners and four safeties. So i would not be shocked to see the steelers. Possibly looking places here where they're a little bit thin because the cornerbacks are joe. Haden cameron jean-pierre justin lane. Yes that is correct. The steelers they've released. Arthur molet who seemed to be if he was healthy. Might have been in line to be the slot. Cornerback after an injury to antoine brooks but he was released gay as well as mark gilbert and then it safety. They kept four. Which wasn't surprise. They released donovan steiner and they kept making fitzpatrick tarot edmonds miles. Killebrew and trae norwood's so that is your pittsburgh steelers defense twenty-six players at all. You gotta finish up with a specialist. These reports came out monday night and yes they were true. The only the only one returner from last season. And that is place-kicker chris. Boswell the punter is seventh round draft pick presley harbin in the third and the long snapper is christian. Coots who has been on and off the steelers practice squad or training camp you know. He was on the practice. What a little bit last year when they might have been concerned of needing a long snapper with a lot of the covert stuff he played in the xfl but had himself a very nice preseason. So the steelers switch up both their punter and long snapper so in all twenty four offense twenty sixty fence. Three specialists fifty three men. Total on this team. This roster is likely to change its likely to change within. I mean i don't know about hours. But i the steelers could go out. And they could sign a veteran that was released right now because it would not have to clear waivers. They could pick up someone in the waiver wire. They could signed somebody back tomorrow. They could put one of their players on the i r. Unsigned somebody back. There's a lot of possibilities here so we will be breaking this down. Even more on the scarborough show podcast tonight at approximately nine. Pm on youtube and facebook and the audio will be going up sometime between eleven pm and midnight eastern so. Make sure you check that out but this was your breaking news. I don't even know if i said who i was. I can't remember. I was so excited about the fifty. Three man roster. This is behind the curtain editor. Dave scofield let you know what happened with this roster and these are most of the players you will see most likely come september twelfth. We are less than two weeks away from the steelers kicking off in buffalo. And we'll we'll see what kind of moves they make but bottom line is these are the players that that you can start to fall in love with hope. We'll see how they change. I'm sure something's going to happen. But as we always say here go steelers..

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

06:23 min | 5 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"The steelers do not have currently for that twenty twenty two draft class banking on a lot of compensatory selections which do not become official for many many months from now. We'll get to that well. After the season is concluded outside of that position. One of the more interesting things to watch as a steelers fan is what the steelers do at the running back spot namely how many guys they're going to take obviously nausea. Harris is going to be the guy at the top. He is going to get a bulk of the snaps. I wouldn't be surprised if he's healthy all year long. He played ninety percent or more of the snaps out running back which is a pretty ridiculous total but for running backs snaps and how coach tomlin likes to bell cow out his tailback. I feel like that's exactly the system that are looking at that makes things interesting with how they round up the roster if there's only three spots harris's one of them i think anthony mcfarland is pretty dead set to be the other one as you're kind of change of pace type guy. Potential kind of motion orbit type guy who can also line up in the slot. I think that also holds another position. The third spot though is someone that you'd want to be kind of a true backup. Some of that has a similar style. The nausea harris. Who could actually if they had to start a game. It would translate to the offense better than an anthony. Mcfarland would so. That'd basically comes down to between benny snell and caylin balaj in my opinion if either guy were to be the most likely to be claimed by far is benny smell. I feel like he would be picked up by some other team. A whole heck of a lot faster than kaelin. Balaj would and i think that's. That's the kind of gamble. You're playing here. If you wanna release kaelin balaj of like of course how long. He waited on that on that market. Eventually signing that minimum deal to come to the pittsburgh steelers. I feel like if he were to be released. He is not going to end up anywhere and could still be slid onto the steelers. Practice squad if harris were to be hurt steelers could call it balaj and have both snell balaj. That's kind of nausea harris kind of backup type role because they play a similar game. Of course not quite that talent level. But i'm definitely not saying he is regardless if they were to carry a fourth running back though and this is something that just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I suppose it can just carry both guys anyway. I feel like it's the end of the line for jalen. Samuels pretty much no matter what here. I'd be surprised if he made the fifty three at this point it just. It just doesn't make much sense for them to hold onto him for another year. So those are kind of the running back and quarterback spots taking care of continuing along with the offense like another interesting spot but not one. That's really jumping out of course at wide receiver. First and foremost is what happens with. James washington all signs point to that trey request being true but it doesn't really feel like the steelers are to kind of actively trying to move out james washington really. I feel like this situation ends with either washington re upping in pittsburgh next year after say juju smith schuster on his expiring deal leads to another franchise or with washington just flat out leaving on his own to have a more premier role. Which honestly i think all steelers fans being able to watch him. The last three seasons is something. He deserves james. Washington deserves a bigger role. Whether or not that's in pittsburgh. I'm not gonna complain if he winds up elsewhere outside of that. Though the steelers top four if washington's there is cemented the fifth spot however it does feel like. It's ray mcleod spot to lose. But of course matthew sexton did make a push to try to be that kick returner. I think he's shot himself in the foot. However trying to become a little too cute with the football in that game against the carolina panthers finale of the preseason that is a spot to kind of watch for especially if the steelers were to take three running back to try to opt to bring another receiver into the season with them. I just i just don't see that core being much different from what it was a year ago to other offenses spots of course we to get to before we flip over to the second half of our show. First and foremost is that tight end position. We know hebron firm youth are occupying the top two spots as possible. The steelers only go into the euro or two guys at tight end. But i feel like it's more much more likely where they follow. Last year's model carrying three tight ends in the year which basically comes down to gentry or raider. Gentry is definitely improved his game as a titan in the national football league. the last number of seasons. Zach eric excuse me kevin reiter is someone that showed a little bit of special teams prowess. Of course the steelers have a number of good special teams players but raider definitely left an impact late in the twenty twenty so really it comes down to whether or not the steelers want their extra tight end to be a big time special teams contributor or not for an example running down kicks. You're not really getting that out of gentry but that's something raider would give you so it really comes down to kind of pick your poison how you really want to use this guy so seeing which one remains on the roster is going to tell you a little bit more about how the steelers plan on rounding out their depth chart and special teams of course of gentry makes it on the team. I would suspect a little bit more kind of heavy type formations where the steelers have multiple tight ends on the field that they need to block on any given situation now of course so we should also wrap up the first half talking about the offensive line. The steelers o. Line of course has his critics throughout the year. But one of the things that we still need to watch. Zach banner only played twelve snaps in the preseason. He wasn't able to make it on the trip to carolina because of injury. Not knowing exactly what it was other than that staying home in pittsburgh for treatment was better for zach banner than heading down to carolina and participating game. Mike tomlin's words not mine. So that is an interesting kind of thing to look out for whether or not zach. Banner ends up on on some sort of physically unable to perform list such as like a injured reserve designated to return which would shut them down for a number of weeks before. He's able to come back. But with dan moore junior practicing at left tackle and szucs core for playing on the right side..

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

06:41 min | 5 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Be a backup to nashi harris. Some even thought that he could be trade bait. Maybe he's a player that could be if a team loses a running back and would they be willing to trade for many snell. Well that's not gonna work out. Based on the fact that any sales been hurt all of training camps say he is supposed to play against carolina. he's probably going to get a lot of carries. I'm anxious to see what he has left in the tank. James washington is number two on the list like i said earlier. I don't think jujubes misusers going to play. I don't i doubt that. Deontay johnson plays much but a guy like james washington is going to play. He might play just the first half but he's going to play when you talk about a disgruntled player when you talk about a player who was kind of not happy with his current situation then my goodness you need to make sure that you take advantage of every opportunity. And he'll get plenty of those with dwayne haskins getting the start so keep an eye on washington before i go any further by the way i compiled this list without using quarterbacks. So you really jeff. Where's wayne haskins like. I didn't put quarterbacks on here. We know that they're going to he. And joshua dobbs are going to be the quarterbacks for this game i felt. It wasn't necessary to bring them up. We're all going to be watching the quarterback position next the offensive line. I have a feeling that the steelers starting off of line that zach banner on the right all the way to chew on the left is going to be playing. And i want to see them get. Maybe maybe it's only ten snaps or one series or whatever. I want to see them. Get some good quality robson together all of them trae turner kevin dots in kendrick green. You name it. I want to see him all. I wanna see them get good quality wraps good pass protection. Good push up front. That's what i wanna see. Let's go to the fourth player. Zac gentry yes. Zach gentry. I don't think that farm is going to play much if at all i don't think eric iran's going to play much. If at all that leaves that gentry with a golden opportunity he in in kevin rader are really battling it out here for this third tight end spot. Could they keep four. they could. I doubt they will. But zac gentry it. He's been playing really well so far in. He's hasn't gotten much of an opportunity. Why pat farm youth eric iran. That's probably why he's going to get every look to really make a make the team not just make the team. But say i could actually be valuable member of the fifty three man roster can i can also catch big game for him. I'm anxious to see what he can. Do anthony mcfarland not running back number twenty six. I want to see if maybe we can see explosive play. I don't care if it's a screen. Pass a check down. Look at nausea. Harris did against the detroit lions last saturday night. Little dump off windsors one on one matchup makes a guy. Ms forty six yards later. I'd love to see different. Mac and nag is explosive. We as fans just have not seen it yet. My goodness just wanna see it break one. That's all i wanna see. Let's go to honorable mention for the offensive side of the ball. I had kaelin balaj. He's going to be back in the lineup again. He looks like he could. Maybe it's between snell and balaj for this roster spot running back. i'm not sure. But it's gonna that's gonna be something to watch for. Sure fryer meat if he plays just because he seems to be an electric person. You always want to keep your eye on him. And last certainly not least matthew sexton number eighty kick return punt returner everyone including matty parole in his war room. Podcast which. I listened to thursday on my way home from work. They're all saying matthew sexton could win a job matthew sex and if he's going to win a job he has to make some type of contribution as a receiver. I just don't think anyone in the nfl anymore. It's going to have someone on the roster who only returns kicks now. Matthew sexton has been by far the best returner they've had this entire preseason but my goodness why in the world would they keep him if he can't catch passes or do anything else in the offense. Ray ray mcleod. I've thought he came on real strong last season. Kinda tailed off at the end. But he was a part of the offense he would run those sweeps he would do. Some of the dirty work and he's had some catches in the preseason. Even if matthews's jackson has any prayer upsetting in unseating. Ray ray mcleod. He's going to have to do something outside of kick and punt return duties. That's just my opinion all right. Let's go over to the defensive side of the ball five players to watch on the defensive side and we'll start off joe schubert number forty five inside linebacker. I said that a lot of players will probably get the night off. I don't think he's one of them. I don't think bush is one of them either. They might only play a few series. But i think the joe sherbert is someone to keep your eye on his communication his overall ability. I was stunned the other day when he did is he had. Immediate availability wasn't even post game. But he talked about helen jacksonville. They don't tackle at all unless it's a preseason game maybe this is the new norm and the nfl. But i'll tell you what the pittsburgh steelers do not abide by that rule. They tackle a lot and i know. Several people have gone to training camp. Whether it's at heinz field or whether it's at saint vincent college and said the steelers are the most physical training camp that they've seen so joe sherbert. Kind of get reacclimated. Here brother you gotta get in their number forty five. Keep an eye on him next. Justin lane my boy. Justin lane lust and jane. Is we call them on the steelers preview after my or our little twitter beef that we had last season but just in lane has been getting around the football. That is important. He's been making plays in the ball. He had a good interception at practice is one of the last ones at heinz field. Had an interception in philadelphia was close to another pick against detroit. As i watched that game if he continues on this path and as much as i couldn't stand the guy last year for him coming at me on twitter for just commenting on a play if if he could turn out to be a third round quarterback cornerback that actually plays well and plays a lot. I be ecstatic ecstatic. But you know what i think. He has a ways to go but he's going to get a lot of playing time. Let's see how he does. Let's also keep in mind with all these players all of them. Offense stevens doesn't matter. The reports are is a carolina are going up. They're going to play their starters and they're going to play them. They might use this as their final dress rehearsal. So someone like justin lane. Someone like you know. Joe schober even going back to the offensive side with the offensive line. They're going to be going up against starters. This is not gonna be your typical last. Preseason finale empty benches type game. keep that in mind all right. The next the third player to watch and defense. James peer number. Forty two cornerback..

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

08:43 min | 5 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Had one called back so sexton had called back. Cause according to his official preseason snaps he has one target with no receptionist. So that's my only thing. i. I like matthew sacks. I think he's a great story Andro bar wrote a great article about him in talked about some toxic as high school. Coach and stuff is a really great piece but man if he can't catch the ball as background be vishwa option. Receiver is ray. Ray mcleod's job even add in jeopardy this. I mean you're gonna waste of too bad for a return exactly what i'd said. Well let let me Let me play devil's advocate here. Because dave made a comment last week well don't even just to come last week. I believe the crux of his show. Today was about on steeler stack. Eke was about the fact that you need to have special teams of ability to Some of these guys that are fighting for roster spots on defense and everywhere else they need to have special special teams ability right. Yeah so with that being said i think they look at look at it a little different. I could bring up guys like allen rossum in two thousand seven. I can bring up guys like Dairies hayward bay mates catches but stefan logan in two thousand ten. You have guys like that. That were soul kick returners and last year for a good bit of time. So was ray ray mcleod. Just a return man. I think he kind of made the team last year. We didn't see him in preseason action but he made the team as a return man even more because of the ability that he showed and he then he turned around and they started throwing them. Those little bubbles screens and and passes like that and he showed he showed some worth their. So i think he was. He was a kick returner. I and hey oh. This guy's got some talent. Let's see what we can do here. But you know the kind of passes that you throw ray ray mcleod. Matthew sexton is probably going to show that same type of ability. You know. I mean you. I know you. They've seen it at camp. We have not but that doesn't mean that it's not that it can't happen because you. How many times have you seen. Ray mcleod catch a ball anywhere more than three yards downfield so then i mean not disagree. You're absolutely right. Both of you are absolutely right. I think when you're looking at return man. It might be a little different animal for what they look. Look for. he's gonna have to break one. He's got to break one week four to make the team. I think he's a practice squad guy possibly sexton that is but for me on offense. I'm gonna go with. I'm for some reason hammered with how they're gonna handle the tight ends. The top two are obviously locks. But you've kevin gentry and then you throw in trey. Edmunds is like this back. Tightening person in thinking there. I don't think they're gonna keep four tight end tight ends anyways i do. They're gonna keep three. I mean raider is more likely to get to the practice squad if they want to do it that way i think gentry is more likely but edmonds is intriguing in a lot of ways i just. I'm anxious to see what gentry can do. He hasn't had a lot of reps outside of blocking. Maybe they'll give him an opportunity. I think yes pretty decent hands. If i remember correctly but boy. He's gotten rave reviews this training camp about transforming his body and really turning into a well rounded tight end real. Quick guys ask you. Brian serves you. How do you think they handle this tight end. How many to key. What do they do with someone. Like trey edmunds even entertain keeping a trailer. Yeah because he's a company man and he's done a lot of things for this team. He's a dirty work type of guy. You're blue collar guy that you could put on the practice squad. You could put here. If he's put on the practice squad you see him again. I think eligibility debut can help me out with this a lot like last year like as as far as practice squad ability. So you know we've seen some good things from edmonds not a lot of things but that blue collar stuff works now. of course both fryer. Excuse me botha gentry. An raider are not gonna make the team together. It's going to be one of those but we've got us. We've gotta just realize the matt. Canada offense might come into play in that number. Three guy might be an h. Back they might wanna go in that direction because you have you have more of that ability because you're not gonna keep to fullbacks either. The only other thing that i can think of is if they do what not a lot of people would would think they would do but they go ahead and cut. Derek am i. Am i saying oh they should cut there wa no. I'm just saying that could be an out of left field surprise. Play where they go ahead man. He's what three million dollars a year. And that's a guy that they can move off of the roster in a cost cutting move and keep edmonds there and and possibly go with a gentry or a raider. So i don't see i don't see four tight ends but i could see the possibility of an h. Back or maybe the fullback being everything. I remember the guy from tennessee. That was the my gosh. His name is escaping me right now but for years. He was that that h back that kind of revolutionized that h back position. Who am i thinking of. You know what. I'm talking about white. Check frank white check there it is so i mean i could see them looking at that role and if they look at that role with frank y check guy. There's another guy that. I don't expect to make the team because it was running ability but i could possibly think of number thirty eight. Jalen samuels in a role like that as well. Let's say you dave on the whole tight end age bag type debate. Well it's funny. Because i think we took was it. I'm giving my shows mixed up. It might have been on scarborough or something that we were talking about jaylen samuels and it was the whole notion of jalen. Samuels is a guy that you thought could maybe that h back but trey. Edmunds is doing it better. And actually playing in that role and they haven't done jalen samuels in that role so right. Now here's the question. Just put it out there. I doubt it any chance. The return of benny snell is actually in that in an eight. You'd think they put him in it in the back to say that he might be the guy that they're wanting to do those kinds of things. I don't know instead of a trey. Edmunds but i will say this. Here's the thing about trey edmunds. Because he has so. He's in a normal year. He would not know what had been years the past he would not be practiced quite eligible. But now that you can have up to six veterans may get paid a little bit more but unless this change the last and i was trying to figure this out i had seen it did you. There's just a minimum salary for a practice squad. If the steelers cleared out salary cap space you could pay a guy on the practice squad. What is normal. Salary would be to keep him from going to another team so they wanted to keep someone like trey edmunds. And then you can elevate two players every time you know but granted that adds to who you have active and everything else but if they want to keep their young guys on the fifty three i mean but but whatever once you elevate him twice then he after that he'd have to go through waivers and stuff like that which makes it tricky but if that's something you want to start off the season until maybe there's an injury somewhere else. 'cause that's not with trae. Trey edmunds last year. He was on the practice squad and then ended up on the on the regular roster later in the year is injuries happened so those are other options. But i'm very intrigued by that them using that role that could make it very that makes it tricky trying to predict this fifty three man roster so i could see someone like that sneaking in. I don't think it would be in place of a derek. What i think it would be in addition to all right. So that's the offense side of the ball. We come back after this break. We're gonna be talking about the defense side of the ball is well awesome over under an trivia. So if you're listening on the audio side head over to partout if you're watching live on facebook or youtube don't go anywhere we aren't going anywhere. We are back after this is..

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

09:01 min | 5 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Editor. Dave scofield and we're ready to go special teams set up. I talked a little bit about it in the first half. But i really wanted to look at some of the numbers from last week's game i but i'm going to look at not. Just this past week gonna look at the entire preseason so far for the steelers all three games and who has stood out the most on special teams. I'm just going to give you the numbers on wanna break down. I will tell you that. I am using pro football. Focus that has these snaps and everything else for these players and tackles and those kinds of stats. I mean they don't actually have a lot of stats. They that's just what they have so they also going to have their grades. And i'll give you. They're great it's up to you if you are okay with the pro. Football focus grades or not. I understand a lot of people were skeptical. I'm skeptical at times but it does sometimes make me think about. Did i see what i think i saw. You know i. I can't believe what i just saw. Sorry i couldn't help myself there so let's look first at the snap counts now. These are on special teams. This is kick return kick coverage does on kickoffs punt return punt coverage feel gold block which defending the field goals and field goal kicks. That's the six places. The six different special teams that players could get on the field. The player who has played the most special team snaps so far. This preseason is edge. Rusher jamir jones and he's really making a case to make this fifty three man roster based on special teams play he. He's been on five five kick returns. Snaps ten kick cupboard snaps. That's a big one kick coverage k. Six punt returns nine punt coverage eight field goal blocks. He hasn't been on the field goal team. Which doesn't surprise me because that's mainly a lot of guys are just. You're either snapping blocking holden or kickin. That's all you doing on the field goal team. So he's got the most snapped and he's only got one more special teams snap then. Seventh round draft pick safety. Traynor would yes three seven snaps kind of a similar breakdown. He's not on the field goal team He's got an a. you know. Eight kick returns snaps the ten kick coverage just like jones. Six punt returns like john's. He's only got four punt coverage but he's got he's apple. The field goal blocked him. He has nine nine snaps their. Okay i will tell you that. Jamir jones also is leading. The steelers in special teams tackles this this year because he has three so low in one assists was just attack on special teams. So but trae traynor would has a lot of snaps. Doesn't have any tackles can so. Let's just keep keep rolling to. I'm not going to go through a team by team or your specialty by special team with with everyone. I just want to do that for the guys at the top because the third most snaps unsurprisingly goes to buddy johnson fourth round draft. Pick inside linebacker and same kind of deal. He's not on the fuel go kick team. But he's kind of spread out pretty evenly with those with those other special teams. There's there's five total players that have had thirty special team snapshot more are said jamir jones with thirty eight. Norwood with thirty seven buddy. John's with thirty four then. It goes you list gilbert the third with thirty one and mark gilbert with thirty. I'm telling you. I think that's significant because a lot of people are like. Oh mark gilbert secure brown mark gilbert. You brown can. They both make the roster can make the roster. I'll be honest right now. I have gilbert ahead of brown. Because i think he's you saw why he might have been a very high draft pick before he suffered his injury while he was at duke. That cost him basically two years. Well it was the hip injury the first year then. He had the ankle injury the next year. So if he's back and find from injury he showing what he can do either way. I think these guys are definitely practice squad candidates if they don't end up crab somebody else. But if you're looking at those two comparatively mark gilbert has thirty special team snaps to. I gotta find him here. Secure brown has eighteen so he has almost twice as many gilbert does so he's been playing more special teams then we have players like anthony johnson. The wide receiver. He's got twenty five special team snaps. Henry mondo getting a lot of special team snaps. Twenty four but eleven to them almost half of them or on our on the field goal kick field goal slats extra point kicking. Which doesn't surprise you. You know a lot of times. We'll get defensive lineman on that team as well. I know like kim hayward on the team at times you know quite a lot Then the next most naps also tied with twenty four. So it wasn't the next most is a is six draft. Quincy he rochet. Then you get into players with twenty two snaps. Carlos davis and kevin reiter than you get down to anthony mcfarland with twenty. And he's got it's interesting because he's got more kick coverage snaps than anyone. But i'm not a hundred percent sure that that's all exactly right because there was some issues because was it wasn't mcfarland was at donovan steiner. You know at times. But honestly i steiner has a lot as well so i've maybe maybe they did get it right so with that because it's interesting mcfarland has the most kicked covered snaps of anyone with eleven. Everyone else only asked him so really when you break it down if you look at some other key. Special teams players and their total snaps. Played a balaj. Cannibalized has nineteen. That's only in two games. Because he because he didn't play in the second game so that's that ones of note because he's got the most of anyone that only played two games. So if you look at that on average you know we can rounded down to eighteen rather than nineteen and say that he would have played another nine. And then there you go. He sitting there at twenty seven twenty eight snaps. So he'd be he'd be sitting there more towards the top already mentioned secure brown with his eight eighteen. Zach gentry mouth. Killebrew cassius marsh. All seventeen special teams snaps. Then you get into other players like presley arvin s. Sixteen he's really. He only has five punch. But he's got eleven holtz. That's the difference right there right now so then you get into some other players. It's really spread out from on with a lot of them with sixteen fifteen fourteen snaps so and then even get some of the offensive linemen because of so much of the of the field goal team so those are the main ones that are standing out. There's a few of them that i'm surprised. See more on on special teams you know like for example Cody white the wide receiver. He has five special team snaps. Still trying to find the. There's matthew sex and he has seven special teams snaps. You've got the two punt returns and you know were actually returned the ball but he's only got seven special teams naps. And he's another guy that maybe offer a ray recap ray ray mcleod for the fifth wide receiver spot while he doesn't have a reception in the in the preseason so that makes it a little bit more difficult as he seems like you would be merely a return specialist. So that's where you're coming from a snaps standpoint now. Let's look at how these players well before we go to how they graded. Let's look at the tackles. Let's see who has the most tackles. Now i these are solo tackles and i'll see if i can throw in the assist whenever i can There's only three players that have more than one solo tackle on special teams there. Jamir jones with three. Anthony mcfarland with two and calvin bondage with two. Then you get into players. That had that had one but also had an assist like shaquille brown yuji. Three marcus allen. Then you get into some guys it just had one solo. Tackle like buddy johnson Henry mondo kaelin balaj justin lane mark gilbert and arthur. Let those are. The special teams tackles that is also something to look at. Let's also look at real quick. How many players have have notched a missed tackle. According to pro.

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

07:38 min | 6 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Are going to be told to sit out. I can see. Ray mcleod playing a lot. I see james washington playing a lot at least in the first half but rigo bussey man. My goodness guys been tearing it up in training camp really excited to see if he could maybe duplicate that in a preseason game next part of the question any and given keith butlers tendency to put linebackers on wide receivers do you think. There's anyone on the team that can actually do it. Besides devon bush. I think there is. I think that marcus allen could do it if he can be more of a linebacker he is a safety. Technically by trade by the way was drafted out of penn state. I think he could do it. I also think that you look at someone. Like ulysses over the third. He could do it as well if he can. Stay healthy a gigantic. If but still he is really athletic and people just don't realize how athletic he actually is if you can get usually three and devin bush to be the tandem on the inside that defense. That's probably the most athletic inside linebacker due in the national football league. When you're talking sideline to sideline matchups would be tremendous. I don't know if it could happen but if it could boy that would be great next question. Todd hall says now that they've announced the ring of honor. Twenty twenty one class where four players. Let's see if i can think of off the top of my head Jon kolb louis lips carnell lake and tons shokhin. Yea i did That was the four for the twenty twenty one class. He's is it too early to say james harrison heath miller. Joey porter should be part of the next class. If not who is the next class. So on the steelers preview. We talked about this. We had a person watching live on youtube and they gave us a five dollar donation at a super chat as we call it to ask us that question i think james harrison and heath miller should both get in the next class. They were dominant at their position. They won super bowls. Team heath one to james harrison. One so i think my gosh. He's a leading. Here's a sack record for the steelers for crying out loud. I'd love to see them get him in there. I know people hate that. He left and went to the patriots played in the super bowl. They didn't win it but still they hate that happened. So i don't care i really don't get james harrison there. Joey porters the only one of the three you mentioned that i would say maybe he should wait a little bit. But when you look at his numbers compared to greg lloyd. You think that. Maybe joey porter should have a spot in there and joey porter did when the super bowl with the steelers so i think all three will eventually get in. I would say that. Heathen james hairs zombie and before joey porter are. Let's go to brian. haynes longtime listener. He said only two questions we jeff number one regarding are ruining the seconds comment about ben. He's talking about him saying they have not closed the door so to speak on rothberg returning in two thousand twenty two. He's what would it take for him not to come back as long as he's competent this year. I think that the only way to ben. If ben is still able to play at a high level if ben still able to deliver the football down the field. He's not banged up. He doesn't have some horrible knee injury. Achilles elbow shoulder whatever if he doesn't have that the only thing that would have him say i'm not coming back is if the steelers. It's the writing on the wall that they are not close to being a contender. That's the only way that i can see that going down that way. If he says. I feel great. I see hearings so play but i'm looking around me. This just doesn't have it years also think next season i mean you're going to have g g smith schuster. He's going to be a free agent. Dante johnson will be a free agent. I believe i'm sorry. Not deonte. johnson. James washington will be a free agent eric. Iran's going to be a free agent. there could be a lot of turnover on offense in. Maybe he doesn't want to go through that. I don't know that. I think the steelers have been can play and still played i level. They would be stupid not to have him back. Second part o'brien's questions. Db believe there is an actual possibility that haskins displaces mason rudolph as the backup hashtag writer to die crew. Hashtag thursday's game day. Thank you brian. I appreciate you always being a very loyal fan of the show. So i do think there's a possibility that haskins could displace mason rudolph as the backup. And what makes me say that. Based on the fact that mason rudolph in my opinion has not proven anything in even though people wanna point two two thousand nineteen and they wanna point to the spot playing at twenty twenty and that week. Seventeen game in cleveland. I that does not as not told me that he is ready fulltime. I am not saying that. I think haskins has done enough to say. That mason is expendable. I'm saying that if haskins does have starting experience who was a first round draft pick who does have the pedigree that haskins if he plays well could displays mason as the backup did not say he's a feature did not say he's a future hall of famer did not say he's the heir to the throne. But he could displace him as the backup. Not putting that out of contention at all taught haul ass with the negatively on mason's play so far does he get significant snaps on thursday even though he is tapped is tapped as the backup or is it a haskins. Dob show now. Todd you asked this question. Probably before. Mike tomlin took to the podium. Mike tomlin said the mason rav is going to start. They don't know exactly how much he's going to play. They have not made that announcement but they said that haskins definitely gonna play probably the second quarter that would tell me that mason rudolph gonna play most of the first dobbs has the entire second half christie. Who i love. She's she's awesome. She says don't have a question but my thirteen year old wyatt. He took a picture at training camp yesterday. Any any wanted to send it to me. They're headed back. They were headed back to practice on tuesday and is a picture of big press. This guy honoree tweet this picture after the show this picture of you can go to my twitter feed and you'll see it. I mean this guy's huge. I mean you see this. Maybe it's the angle but it looks like they're your seeds are great chrissy and man. He is a monster. big press. That makes me all jacked up. That's awesome. i'd just re tweeted it there. You go so thank you awesome. It's awesome and then last question here. Believers says number one has moved to heinz field over latrobe. Made any kind of difference in your eyes. I don't know. I think you'd have to ask the players. I don't think the media is really asked any players this question. The players love it. The players don't wanna go sleep in dorms serious having football football football. Basically shove down your throat. Twenty four seven and that probably were remind them of college players. They don't they didn't like that. The like the pros they. They like being a professional but at the same time i think there is some value to always being there of team bonding team building and things like that. So i think it's kind of a. There are some pluses and minuses. It depend on the player's number. Two what is your big surprise cut. That'll be made that. No one is expecting for me. I think on offense. I'll try to give you one on both sides. What i always do on offense. I would say a surprise cut says someone that is cut. The no one's expecting i want to say..

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

07:25 min | 6 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"That i'm responsible for every day that the steelers practice where there's updates especially when there's fans in the stands we get so much more updates just because the reporters are allowed to say more than i then put a tracker. I put the the show in from steelers live that kicks off training camp. It's in the article whenever training camp practices done and they have their wrap up show. That goes at the end on putting all kinds of information in tweets in this article. Too basically where it could be your one stop shop for practice that day where you could go in and see exactly what's going on. I updated every few minutes on. It's a lot of work to stay on top of it. But i do it for you all and then also we turn around and give you this podcast as well for those people that are that listening on the podcast side but might not check out the website so we have all the information that we can get and today was a very interesting when it came to information. So i'll get to that. But i will say that. The steelers were back and surprisingly in pads. Today i know jeff said on yesterday's recap that he assumed that that was probably the last day in pads for the steelers but they were out there in pads again today. And if. I were to estimate why. I think that happened. It's because the steelers are trying to emulate an actual week. Even though the is on thursday and not the typical sunday and that is the came off there off on sunday. They went padded practice padded practice. Monday and tuesday tomorrow. Wednesday is what will soon as a non padded practice and it's not open to the public and then the steelers will travel to canton to be ready for the game. I'm pretty sure they are going to travel on. Wednesday and thursday have not seen an official report. But that's generally the the way things work in the nfl and with it being a night game they might do a walk through that morning or something so in order to try to make sure that players are figuring how to how a game would work a game leak would be. I think that's why they went with back-to-back padded practices. Now jeff will be back for the next recap. It's probably not going to be until saturday. Because like i said it's practices not open to the public wednesday thursday the hall of fame game fridays off day. I'm fairly certain. It will be back on saturday unless something changes with that schedule but it was very interesting today because there was not a lot of reports coming at the beginning of practice when the steelers took the field at approximately one thirty this afternoon and that was because art rooney the second was speaking to a group of the media at that time so therefore a lot of the reporters who would generally be telling us. Who's practicing who's not draft things of that nature. It took a while until that information started to come out because these reporters were still in in an interview with team. President art rooney. The second mike. Thomas had done his interview already. He did his typical tomlin tuesday at noon. A regular sit down press conference. That was really nice to see in here. And we have information on that at not only at behind the soccer curtain dot com but also the the post what i'd say the press conference wrap up or or however you wanna say i can't remember how it's phrased that jeff did earlier on our podcast platform. Hopefully you've already checked that out. But as they got doing with practice today it was. It was very interesting to see who wasn't wasn't practicing i. The steelers added a player to their roster. Just before practice it was announced. And that was running back. Tony brooks james if that means sounds familiar. It's because he spent time with the steelers in two thousand nineteen he appeared in three games had a handful of carries. I think it was seven carries for eight yards. Something like that. If i recall from reading that article earlier today he also ran ran back. Two kickoffs He was just three games with the steelers and then he was off again but he he was released last week by the atlanta falcons. So they brought him in and part of the reason that he was brought in might have been because for the second straight day. No benny snell. Not even that he was out there getting work in. But just wasn't you know fully dressed. He was not seen on the field for the last two days. Additionally neither was anthony mcfarland junior who apparently came up a little bit limp at the end of practice on monday so it makes sense that they might have brought in another running back. And then we're going to hear a little bit more about the running back situation as we progress through this other players that were not dressing once again. T. j. watt was doing his normal whatever. He's been doing where he's been working outta practicing at practice. But not actually practicing. With the team eric hebron once again missed practice. Zach gentry and ray ray mc lap. Sorry ray ray mcleod were also not practicing but on the on the good news zack. Banner was in pads again today and he did start off and the seven shots according to rafit a powder of the of the pittsburgh post gazette who said zach banners lining up at right tackle for seven shots. Dan more still at left tackle to that. Was the report coming out It's kind of funny because one tweet. I came across today. That that i actually got a kick out of was mark. Kabali says. let me describe a training camp practice for you. Drill drill drill stretch drill drill drill seven shots drills football plays drill drill drill that was remarkably of the atlantic. I got a kick out of that because it sounds like. That's really how things are going. The very first play of seven shots. That is as jeff said. Many times with offense gets seven. Tries from the two yard line. Defense is lineup to stop them. It's basically a two point conversion and it's who can win the most on the very first one unfortunately ben rothlisberger through an interception. Who did he throw to none other than outside linebacker. Alex highsmith okay. Then this starting offense bounces back with two touchdowns from ben rothlisberger after that wanted chianti johnson and wanna pat fair youth k There was conflicting reports on whether or not mason rudolph unit was one for two are over to some said. It was one for two sums. It was over two. And that's gonna make a big difference on who won seven shots the offense the defense but just had some conflicting reports there. but were they. What were the word. Conflicting reports was dwayne haskins. Had the last two shots and they went one for two with the final play being an interception by undrafted free agent market gilbert to finish up seven shots so according to most that was that the defense when the seven shots Still didn't get exact clarity on on the rudolf situations Bryan back. Go another one from the pittsburgh post gazette. He he said on twitter chase clayton. We'll just loves owning guys in one on one drills the other day he pancake justin lane at a blocking period. Now he just put traynor norwood on the ground with a stiff arm..

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

04:40 min | 6 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Two receivers they have listed or deontay johnson and you just misused her then the next up sorry three waters was almost give chase klay poll the three wide receivers start so it's johnson chase klay poll juju smith schuster. So i don't know exactly. They didn't designate any one of them being inside outside how they would do it. So it's very difficult to tell their but those were the three then. They had james washington behind the andre. Johnson he was with the second group with ray. Ray mcleod and cody white. Then the third group was rico. I think it's seattle tickets bussey. I'm not sure. But that's whichever one it is. Isaiah mccoy and anthony johnson and then the fourth on the list was matthew sexton and tyler simmons so those are the wide receivers. Lots of everything spread out there. They we'll go after wide. Receivers will go to tight end. They only listed one and the order they went was first eric braun. Second pat firm. Uth doesn't surprise anybody. They're the only thing that's really interesting. Harris who was third and steelers had zach. Gentry's third kevin raiders fourth dax. Raymond is fifth. So that's the tight end running back to no one's surprise nausea harris's i he's listed as the first running back then. The order goes what they're starting off with is then it goes snell junior anthony mcfarland junior jalen samuels kaylin balaj. Now if you've noticed someone's missing from that list you're like wait. I thought i thought that was a six to one. There is now trae edmonds. He's actually listed as the second player on the depth chart at fullback behind. Eric watt now that simply could have been that they didn't really want to go out to a six level at running back but also you have to remember. That treatments did play some fullback. When derek wall was injured last year not a lot but then again there. What didn't play a lot. Either in the steelers offense. So that's interesting. Let's go to the offensive line because we're gonna we're going to save the big one for last offensive line for the five spots. Were pretty much. We knew what they were going to be. Left tackle was chew chor. Four left guard kevin dodson right tackle zach banner. Right guard trae turner. What's really interesting for. The steelers is at center. They have jc hassen hours. The first team kendrick green is the second team and bj vinnie vinnie. Third in that group so chances are half an hour might be the name there because he started games for the steelers last year at that position. I don't know but it is interesting that it was half an hour and not finney. That was up there. Now when it comes to be j finney. He actually is on this list twice because he's as the third string center and he's also listed as the as the second team left guard behind kevin dotson. So let's go through these position about position on the line and left tackle. It goes to core for dan moore chaz green of collins at left guard. It's kevin dotson. Bj finney brandon walton center. I already said about do it again. Jc hassen our kendrick green and bj. Finney right guard trae. Turner rashad coward. Anthony coyle right. Tackle zach banner. Joe hague john naghlu so those are the offensive line the way it sits right now so if you were to look at that and just merely for the guys during the first two groups there's ten different players they're the steelers will probably keep nine guys so that's probably the best way. Look at it now. Let's go the last position on offense one. You might be waiting for not because of the top. Because how it goes afterwards quarterback the list goes ben rothlisberger mason rudolph d'alene haskins joshua dobbs so if we were wondering i was one personally that i wasn't ready to put haskins ahead adopt until i saw him on the field the steelers they have haskins down there. It might just be based on what they're planning to do the first week or that could be where he really is. We will see when the season rolls around or as the preseason gets deeper. Now let's go ahead and jump into the defense trying to keep this shortest possible. It's very interesting. How the steelers do the defensive line. They listed with three different positions defensive..

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

04:56 min | 6 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"The curtain subscribe. Follow so that you don't miss a thing. Things got heated though on saturday based on the fact that they had the steelers their first training camp scuffle rookie fourth round. Pick from texas. Am dan moore junior. Big dan as they call him. No not not. The former big danny used to be the steelers he got into it with isaiah bugs and also cam hayward on consecutive plays outside of the fact that if i were giving dan more some advice i would say. Hey maybe pick who. You're gonna fight a little bit better not so much bugs. But i wouldn't want to get into a scuffle with cam haven. We'll put it that way. But dan moore junior a lot of people that when he they drafted it and he was drafted by. The steelers felt the more lacked that tenacity that he lacked that Really the ability to be that hard nosed. Just get after a type of offensive lineman. Well maybe he's proving to the coaching staff that that's wrong. Maybe he's proving the he is more than capable of doing just that and so maybe this is the first step for a young player just trying to make a name for himself in the national football league. That was not the only play made. There was no worthy robert. Spelane proved that he can do more than just hit. He had a beautiful interception of mason. Rudolph a one handed interception on a pass for mason for ray ray mcleod. It looks like explain. Is going to be the inside. Linebacker next to devon bush and so far so good for spelane. Navy being a starter. After vince williams retirement the offensive line for the steelers was rather beat up. Kendra greene was given the day off for a personal matter. Coach tomlin said it was excused. Bj finney jc has now are. They were both injured but they left under their own power. Everything seems to be pretty minor. Speaking of injuries of made this is not really injured related but then office was given the day off today And so you can go ahead and get out the pitchforks and torches and people get so mad when rothlisberger sits out any practices whether it's training camp preseason or regular season But this deal is going to get a better. Look at mason rudolph twain haskins and joshua dobbs marco. Bali of the athletic pointed out that rothlisberger had the day off at his typical for years. Now they've had him go one full day one day. That's a half day which was friday and then a full day off. During training camps today was the third day he should be back on sunday before. The players had the day off on monday Melvin ingram was making a lot of news today. He spoke with the media after practice. But also it was noted that melvin ingram was lining up multiple multiple spots and positions on the defense He obviously can rush from the outside. He'd been outside linebackers since he was drafted but he also was a standup rusher over the a and b gaffes of on the offensive line. He is someone that can play inside and outside and ingram said whatever the steelers asked him to do. He'll do it and if that's the case obviously he'll do it. Kevin dodson is a player that has been out because of injury something minor in approved to be minor based on the fact that he has not returned team activities but he was working out today at a helmet for the first time and it looks like he just knows some type of tweet. I think my thomma might have used that word. And he is listed as a starting left guard on the initial roster so hopefully kevin dots and can make his way. Back more from melvin ingram He spoke with the media and he talked about his overall love for the game. Football sit his body feels great a lot of fans myself included or wondering. Is he heard Know he's had a history of injuries in the past He's gonna he had an injury last year. It's part of the game physical sport. He said he's he's not one hundred percent. He's two hundred healthy. I'm not sure how that works. But that's exactly what he said Also from melvin ingram. He was asked a question. Or i guess it was more of a statement and he interrupted the reporter. They said you've got a james harrison built. He said no. I've got a melvin build. So he doesn't wanna be compared to james harrison He's his own man for sure he was also asked. Why is he wearing the number eight. He wore fifty four when he was at the chargers. He said that he Where's eight because he was number forty four in highschool and obviously in of also for kobe. Bryant is a number Other than that. The pittsburgh steelers You know it was a workout. Where the definitely. The physicality is ramping up. They have to get ready for the hall of fame game. That's when the camp scuffle start That's when you start to see the pads coming on the pads officially be worn and hitting while be happening next week. That'll be the first live practice at heinz field. And i'm sure that the fans that are going to be in attendance for those live practices cannot wait to hear the pads popping to see the team because remember last season They did not get to witness training camp at all They haven't been back at saint. Vincent college in latrobe Since two thousand and nineteen..

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

05:37 min | 6 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"You can talk about james connor go with cardinals then and then. There were players that were gained free agents that were gained by the steelers. You think about. I think were the biggest surprises. In my opinion was juju smith. Schuster coming back. He was a free agent. No one thought that there was any chance that jujubes misused her would be back in the black and gold in twenty twenty one. And maybe you're someone out there that said i'm glad he didn't. I'm not one of those people. I was excited to see juju back. He's a tough receiver. He does the tough things. Well he is. A hines ward type of player. We'll put it that way. And then you had some minor. Signings like ray mcleod comes back. Joshua dobbs resigns in a more acquisitions in that joe hague is is is one of them but then you had these retirements some of them like when vance mcdonald retired it. Wasn't that surprised it was. I mean we kind of had a feeling he wasn't going to be back anyways. His salary cap hit was going to be huge for twenty twenty one so it just seemed like they as mcdonald's probably not going to be a part of the overall program anyways within marquees pounds. He retires and everything. And okay that boy. This is. This is a surprise. No one expected pouncey to hang it up now. We all thought he'd do one more year with rothlisberger than they would both ride off into the sunset together. Hopefully hoisting the lombardi trophy. But i think what's really strange. The most retirement and this has been surprising. Was the vince williams. On the day the players were supposed to report to training camp. That is that was wednesday of this week. He decided he's not gonna play for whatever reason. We don't know what that reason is at the moment that this is recorded. We don't know why. Vince williams said i'm not playing. I'm just done and to be honest on thursday. The very first practice. For the pittsburgh steelers marco bali of the athletic tweet. It out that from the people that he spoke to within the steelers organization. Now i do not know if that's coaches. I don't know if that's front office staff. I don't know if that's ownership of. I don't know if that's even players. But whoever mark. Bali talked to he tweeted that it seemed like the the organization did not know until wednesday. That vince williams was going to retire. They were as blindsided as the fan. Base was think about that. You cut a guy and we're gonna talk about that. In a second vince williams gets cut. Then all of a sudden you say hey look into. You're not getting signed by anyone. We have back veteran minimum. He says shore. You think you're gonna get one more year With devon bush vince williams. That's a pretty good inside linebacker duo then it feels like the rug pulled out from underneath you i. I don't know what happened. Maybe we will never know what happened but still. That's a surprise. It's what we're talking about here. The surprises then. You do have those releases. I talked about williams game released. I honestly never thought that he was going to be potential salary cap casualty. I just didn't think he was going to be one of those players he was. They got him back then. He retires steven nelson. I mean if you ask me it was always going to be between nelson and hayden. One of those two was going to get cut. Who was going to be. I don't know it turned out. It was nelson and hayden were. He's still playing out his final year of his contract. I'm someone that thinks that the steelers could benefit from keeping him on the roster. I think he has a lot of juice. Left in the tank. They could save money for the salary cap this year. But still steven nelson was released and that was kinda surprising and then david decastro gets released. That was right after mini camp. And then they bring in trade turner free agent acquisitions you want to call it bad and then you know you just think about. These are all surprises to cash or being was surprise nelson maybe not as much williams in his in. His retirement. Were both surprises. Then i mean what a good surprise. Melvin ingram melvin. Ingram which by the way which by the way a couple people on twitter And i don't want to say their names. Because i don't want necessarily attach this to it when it comes came to a reason for maybe vince williams retirement. They kind of hinted that maybe it was because of the acquisition. Of melvin ingram melvin. Ingram is very similar. To vince williams. He plays on the outside but he can play on the inside. He can rush the passer from the interior. That's kind of what vince williams does. I'm not sure if one. Melvin ingram was acquired. Vince williams said. I have no spot on this team anymore. I'm done. I'm not gonna play anymore. I don't know don't take that. that's the rumor. That's just a rumor. I'm not gonna call it a report. That is a rumor but still. There's people that are talking about it. The melvin ingram being signed. That's huge. That's a huge surprise. That's a positive surprise. Two thumbs up on that one. If he can stay healthy that turns at outside linebacker depth into maybe one of the biggest glaring weaknesses on the roster to not not a strength the not the strongest position. I would say that you know you'll get defensive line or wide receiver. Those are the strengths of your of your roster. I'm not saying that but it makes the outside linebacker depth quality a makes it outside linebacker death experience. Those are important things so the question is what surprises. Lie ahead for the two thousand twenty one steelers. What's coming up. Are there any surprises. Weakened navy predict. Are there any surprises that we can. Maybe think okay. We can guarantee that this is going to happen at some point for instance. I'll give you the first one. Injuries injuries can happen. They will happen no matter what. There's not a team in the nfl last season. That wasn't impacted by injuries. In some way shape or form have there been were their teams. I should say we're there teams that were impacted more. Yes absolutely i mean you look at pittsburgh..

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

07:08 min | 6 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Fairly certain very ferry fairly. I guess that's a good way to say it or not that you know the steelers are not looking to have an you know someone who would even bump ahead of alex minutes unless there was a problem after scenes went on. You know. put that he's gonna come into camp d day one he's going to be that guy opposite at c. j. What so you've got to see if if increments that i mean that's not. It's not a big characteristic thing for the steelers to bring in someone you know. At his age he's thirty two. You know at this point of his career on a really on a big deal. It sounds more like a smaller contract. Possibly just one year. You know veteran minimum or or small two year to year. Deal where you can push some of the money into the second year things like that. It's just really interesting. I don't really know what they're going to do that. But i mean you say about. He had the injury struggles. Did have a four year stretch from twenty fifteen to two thousand eighteen where he didn't miss a game. Yeah it i mean so. It was early in his career and then it and then it was the last couple seasons where he struggled with that. So it really league is gonna come down to. Is he going to to be willing to do what the steelers want him for. That's what to me. That's that's the alternate thing right so we're going to spend it on a ton of time on this. That's not what the main crux of this podcast is all about. We're trying to get you ready for training. Camp if melvin ingram or someone else is a part of that but that's great if not worry we're going to plough ahead as if he's not we'll put it that way. And we are going to be predicting the fifty three man roster pre-training cabinet david. I've done this periodically throughout the off season. We did it before we and then we did it after the draft did it after free agency and here we go before training camp litho lead up. We're gonna go through. The offense and defense will do offense in the first break. I don't think there's as many questions in terms of the fifty three in the on the on the offensive side. That i could be wrong. And then we'll get a defense and special teams in the second half to round out the show. So dave. are you ready. I am ready all right so this this article will be running later in the week in will attach the podcast to it as well. But let's look at the quarterback position We all know the depth chart. Datum let you go first In who do you have making the fifty three men roster of the quarterback position. How many players in. Who are those players. Well i've. I've got the typical three quarterbacks and i have of course. Btr benjamin tundras burger mason. Rudolph is the number two. And i might not be the most popular opinion. But i have josh. Dobbs is my number three. Because that's who's going to be there until i see something otherwise to make me change my mind ends. It's what we're going to do here is. I'm gonna then say if. I agree with dave or disagree dave and in this case i do disagree with one of those players. I have rothlisburger. Rudolph is one too. I have dwane haskins making the team in. I know that. There's it's a very low risk Dwayne haskins we all know that but we know that joshua dobbs can play but we also know that joshua is a player that was traded last season so he wasn't even valued enough to keep him on the roster twain haskins e bring him in barring him completely falling flat on his face which could happen by the way in the preseason i think twain haskins makes the team. Maybe they trade joshua dobbs again. I'm not sure it depends on what else is out there but so we both have three players. You have dobbs. Let's go to running back dave. You have running back. i have them going with keeping. It's funny keeping quote unquote extra whether they even had more than this in the past. They've gone with this few three. I have them with four. I've got the the obvious nausea harris. I do have benny snell junior. Anthony mcfarland and jalen samuels. Because once again i i kind of put the kaelin balaj into the same boat as dwayne askins that he's going to have to knock somebody else out of there. I saw until. I can really see what he can do. I'm not a mud. Put that kind of expectations on. I have the same for megan a team. But i feel like one of the training camp battles that maybe no one's talking about too much because it's all about secondary stuff we're talking. Special teams. Players is jalen simmons versus ballad. Daniels has a connection with canada. We know their time at. Nc state dallas has was one of those players. do you take this for what it's worth but in during. Ta's enduring mandatory minicamp. He was the attention of reporters. Will one of the reasons was that the running back drills always done right below where the reporters were standing and watching them work out into. They had an up. Close personal look at balance in what he was able to do. Several writers were really high on balance. I could see him. Maybe making the team. I don't know if it's going to be an impact player. If he's even gonna helmet on game days does he play special teams. That's a big question. But i agree with david. I think those four harris snell mcfarland and of the ones that make the team fullback. Let's not even waste our time. Derek watts guy is going to win it and let's go to wide receiver. David you have a wide receiver. I've got the same five that they finished the year with an play. The entire season with last year of juice misused deontay johnson chase klay pool james washington and ray club. I have the same five and again like i said. I didn't think there was a there. Were many unless there's an injury and i don't even know who would even draft a wide receiver this year so i don't even know if they were to change anything you know. This guy's going to unseat. Ray mcleod who that guy would be. They don't have a ryan switzer type so in terms of wide receivers. I think this is the group. This is the group and it's just a matter of can they perform and can they stay healthy. Let's go to tight end. This is an interesting position here. Go ahead oh tight end i. I made a change from this earlier. I'm really torn. I think this could be one of the more interesting camp battles. I have them keeping three. I haven't been eric. Hebron pat fair move. At first i had kevin reiter now. I'm back to think it may be the wanna around with zach gentry again Mainly because i think raiders and easier to get on the practice squad. If you know what i mean but i think they could put they wanted to. They could even go with two here and put both those guys on the practice squad. So i'm going to be flip in those guys. Probably all preseason based on how they're playing originally with raider because he does offer special teams play so much so he played in the playoff game last year. But then the more out of. I'm like well. Zen gentry did lose his job because of injury and sealers are with. When when you get injured they don't like to lose. Lose your spot that's usually. Nc's it not between seasons right but so therefore you can flip a coin right now with either one of these guys really gonna come out of the preseason.

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

05:51 min | 7 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"On. i'm going to. I'm going to answer jerry. Cherry bans you know. He's such a great help to you. Know be. Tsa jared jared. Vanuatu know who washington was playing. If i remember correctly are you talking about the game. You would add solve football team than at the time redskins vs eagles. That is correct okay. I still don't know what it was. I remember either. Oh four oh five. I know it was a sunday night. Game in washington and they played them on sunday night in washington both years. I think it was the second one. Because i don't think they won. But i went to board games in washington with my dad. I talked about on the father's day. Podcasts that were out You can always check that out. But if you're wondering why rich said that about Jerry cherry band. If you are only here on youtube and facebook and don't listen to our audio shows are morning shows. Let's ride. That does monday wednesday. friday live. Michael tuesday steelers stat geek. Which is my show. On thursdays we have music for our for our interest and everything. Courtesy the jerry. Jerry band of the live. Mikey does somewhere. Canadian stuff so We got a super chat before we get onto this so gonna get that it's a hey leash dave stop. I feel like you're talking about lance williams eight love the show by. I gotta go no. I'm not no no no no no because here. Here's the deal not talking about a hater because you can be realistic and you can say when the steelers do things well and what the steelers don't do things well and they're okay. But i don't think i ever once in lance questioned his steeler fan never. Now we're talking about this folks that you start to think. Are they really a fan or just you know pretending to play one on tv. You know everything that you hear about them about. The steelers is bad and basically if you took off their black and gold and put them in in dirty baby diaper brown and orange you would. You wouldn't notice any difference right so because all they want to do is talk about what about how the steelers aren't good everything you know. The sky is always falling. You know i mean. There's there's a difference between you know it's much of a difference between two always mirrored or someone else saying take off this hat put another one and say. Yeah you suck. That's basically you're. You're hearing the same narrative from both sides of fans and that's so felicia. No you said that. You said in jest but i do want to make sure that that was that is one hundred percent not who i would never say that about lance. I would never question his. You know he was. He is who. I would put in the realm of a of a out somewhere between a realistic fan and a pessimistic fan. Another words like lance last was arctic. Looks like he was very much going to critique and what is the easiest thing guarantee floss. Yes let's just say this. If i never had the pleasure of watching game of lance but if there was a plague going on and and it was let's say it was fourth and four and the steelers are in five wide shotgun. Everything else okay. The optimistic fan thinks they're gonna get it here. The pessimistic fan says. There's no chance they make this. You know what i'm saying so but it doesn't mean you know you're you're saying when you're moving into something that's where it's going to be so this was just a nice discussion. I saw that the live chat was in on the discussion. And i know you wanna roll into our topic which is a kind of a lot of fun tonight and it's talking about. I gotta make sure. I changed what word i used but i wanted to. Make sure i got this right. Who could be steelers training camp. Darling now i use that term for those of you that come around you. tse bt se. Let's see if i can get all the letters out there at the website. You may be familiar with that every year at the end of training camp. We we issue. Not every i mean in recent years what they call the isaac redman award. And that's a player that has got kind of came out of nowhere and everyone was talking about in training camp. This is kind of like this. Not exactly because i redman award. There's some criteria to that like where you were if you were drafted you had to be drafted in one of the last rounds or not. You know you couldn't have a year of experience of actual playing an nfl games or things like that or you can have more than one. I don't remember what they are. We weren't we weren't saying that because we didn't want to handcuff ourselves we're talking about. Who's that player that everyone's gonna get all talking and excited about in a good way meaning that you're going to hear more than what you should. Who are we going to be talking about. On tuesday nights during training camp really who are like. Oh my gosh. Yeah exactly in the month of august at nine pm on tuesdays. Who's going to be the topic of discussion. Oh my goodness. I can't believe blah blah blah blah. You're exactly right if you want an example. Think two years ago to czar skipper. That's a good example. You know he was a guy came out of nowhere and it doesn't have to come out of nowhere guy last year. Last year's isaac redman winner was actually yuji. Three that was shannon's guy. My guy should have won it. And i showed during the season that i was right. My guy was ray ray mcleod because even though he was drafted by another team he was a cast off the steelers brought in and he was gonna come in and make the team and do something. So that's the kind of stuff we're talking about so rich. We're gonna start working through.

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

05:23 min | 7 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"The live mike. Podcast once again. My name is michael beck your deputy editor over behind the steel curtain dot com. Which should be your one stop shop for all things. Pittsburgh steelers first half of our show. We went through expectations of the quarterbacks. Running backs and tight ends this half. We're going to get into the wide receivers and we're also going to look at the offense line. Really all these positions are going to be huge For the success of this team. It's gonna be a team effort especially offensively Every single one of these groups has to be good to great if they're going to do anything this year Really there isn't one spot on the pittsburgh steelers where i could look at it and say man. We could be okay. If if they're just average. I think a lot of these spots have to be good to great but thankfully i think they have the talent to do those things. So getting into the wide receivers. I set it for the tight ends. I'm gonna sit here for the wideouts. They need to catch the ball. And this points directly towards diontae johnson first and foremost he led the nfl drops last year which is completely unacceptable for an nfl wide receiver and for one. That is talented. Diontae johnson is he runs routes unlike really anyone in the league right now. He create separation If he's getting himself open he needs to catch the ball. And if he can do that he's going to be one of the better receivers and football. That's what it comes down to. He's gonna catch the ball if he doesn't. I think the steelers might be a little quick quicker with the trigger of benching. One deontay johnson We saw it happened last year after a couple of stretches of poor poor performances out of deontay. If he can catch the ball you steelers team just goes to a whole 'nother level you got possession. Guy that fights for the first downs in juju smith schuster. You got the route running guy and diontae johnson. You got the vertical. Big man in chase claypool. You got kinda the utility knife in james washington who does just a little bit of everything really if they can catch the ball that it's almost ungovernable unit really because of how you try to line up your corners. It really isn't possible for most they don't run for corners the and considering the steelers tight ends and running backs they shouldn't be able to compete with the doubt much talent across the board but it won't matter if they can't catch the ball so first and foremost these wide receivers need to catch the ball. The second thing. I want to see out of the wide receiver position. I want to see someone. Stand out above the rest in two thousand twenty. We kinda saw the top. Three receivers called together and catches yards and touchdowns. I don't want to see the steelers develop someone into being a number one wide receiver. Could it be chase claypool. Could it be deontay johnson. Could it be juju. Heck could it be james washington. It doesn't matter. I just want someone to kind of stand out and be like okay. That's the steelers number one wide receiver. I want coverage is to try to shift over to one certain player and really if that happens if the steelers have a true number one where teams have have got a debate whether they're throwing their all pro guy or they're going to rotate a safety over the top or just straight up double team. That's only gonna make this team soul much better if they can get a guy that proves himself worthy of being a number one. I think the pittsburgh steelers will be an extremely successful team in the twenty twenty one season. I hope someone can do that. And that's something. I really want to see happen this upcoming season. The third thing. I wanna see out of these wide receivers. I was the catch more deep balls. This kind of ties into ben rothlisberger Standing in the pocket a little bit more running play action but one of the things that the steelers kind of locked it was kind of that deep play receiver. I think she's claypool and really ray ray. Mcleod have the best odds of becoming that guy that catches those streaky passes every now and then each number game really. We saw juju smith schuster in his first couple of years in the league. A guy that could take eighty pass nine yards. He did it a couple times. So i wanna see them. Catch those deeper passes over the middle on the sideline. it doesn't matter i. I just wanna see maybe once twice a game where they have that big chunk yardage play. They have the talent to do it. I just want them to actually succeed in that role and hopefully they can do exactly that. The the fourth thing and really come to the last thing i wanna see out of the wide receivers. I kinda want to see a fifth option. Standout khuda be. Ray ray mcleod. Yeah i guess so. It could be one of these practice squad guys that they've had for a couple of seasons and shuffled around the possibly unlikely. But i i wanna see a third or fifth option that the steelers can turn to. That can still pick up a couple receptions of game even if it was just one or two If they could develop someone else without having drafted someone or sign anyone this off season. I think that could be really really big for this team. mcleod showed some flashes last year. And it's possible he could.

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

Behind the Steel Curtain

04:28 min | 8 months ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain

"Want to make that very clear. Special teams rookies are always going to play on special teams if you make the team but so nausea hairs. We know he's going to have a big role. That's one okay. Pat farm youth. I still think. Even though eric ebron is going to be the tight end one on the depth chart. He's going to play. he's gonna play a lot. I think that's more than just being in contributor. i think he's going to have a very big role. It might be a blocker but he's going to have a very big role kendrick green. Everyone is expecting this kid to be able to win that starting center job and even if he doesn't win it outright feeling he will be the starting center by the sign that year ends. I think that is a huge contributor. If you even go into the fourth round. Dan moore junior. Can he beat joe hague. I think that he beats joe hague for a lot of reasons number one he could be that backup swing tackle. He has the size joe. Hey did not impress his time in tampa bay and if the steelers decided to part ways with haig it helps them in their compensatory draft formula in that matters for a team like the steelers that need all the draft capital they can get and then if you even want to throw in a fifth if you want to throw in account special teams. I'm not gonna count my boy presley. Okay i'm not going to count. That i should so. That's five right there. Let's count them. We'll throw in their big boy to sixty big big. Let's say he wins the job he gets the weasel out of town. That's jordan berry. So that's five. Could you have six buddy johnson. Maybe could be a player that if there's an injury events williams if there's an injury robber spelane he could be the guy that steps in. I'm not counting on that right now. There's definitely three. I think there's going to be four. Might even be five or six double. This is absolutely incredible. So what if if i thought the twenty twenty draft class was special. This twenty twenty one draft class might be special because they might have a ton of contributors early. Some might say that's not a good thing some might say that's a sign of a team that has a lot of holes. I'm not necessarily buying into that. But what if the steelers rookie class has four to five or six contributors outside of special teams job. Well done by. Kevin colbert and company. All right let's one more before we take a break. What if the wide receiving core is top five in the nfl. A lot of fans out there that the wide receiving core is. It's kind of its own enigma. Yeah you got to juju. Smith schuster back juju. Coming back was a big help. In my opinion so juges back. We know chase claypool was really dynamic. He's going into the second year. This still young. So learning diontae johnson. He has issues catching the football. That sounds just so idiotic when you say it out loud that receiver in the national. Football league had struggles catching the football. That's what you're paid millions of dollars to do. I digress. be diontae. Johnson is also a very dynamic player if you get him in space you get in the ball and space. It's rare that one person's going to bring him down he's normally gonna make someone miss his lateral speed and agility is unbelievable when he gets the ball in his hands. He's dangerous. He throwing james washington who is different than any other receiver on their roster. Not the specimen of chase claypool. He doesn't have the the. I i don't even comparing him to juju smith. Schuster is not the right comparison because james washington not a slot receiver. I still think the juju smith schuster is best suited for the slot. Even though it's probably not going to happen that way in twenty twenty one. James washington is down the field player. He is tough he will make the as great hands great combat catcher He's gonna be the odd man out in those scenarios still great depth and then he's around ray ray mcleod he's kind of like a diontae johnson types smaller. He can run the ball. He can definitely catch the ball. Not going to be more of a gadget player. But still he is a contributor. I think that this wide receiving core is very deep. I've seen this wide. Receiving core is very good. And i think that they're going to be a huge part of this team success or failures. If you can't hold onto the football. I e diontae johnson iii. Eric ebron because you throw in the tight ends now is receiving core. Got even deeper. So i'm looking at this and saying could be top five. Absolutely they could absolutely could but again there's a ripple effect if they can run the ball better. It's going to open up the past but it's also to limit some of their numbers so this is not just all statistics. This is not just me saying that. They're going to have the best statistics in the national football league. It also me saying that honestly big just be that dynamic all right so we have more of the what. If game coming up we went through five. We have five left in the second half. We will be back to talk about all those after this break. Stage.

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on ESPN Daily

ESPN Daily

05:39 min | 1 year ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on ESPN Daily

"Are see. We are forced to listen to quarterback so often in the world of nfl analysis. So i just wanna thank you for helping lead. The db revolution espn daily. Why does this happen. You guys finally invited me or it's your time man your old team. The steelers are right now. Undefeated and that is surprising. Let's be honest to a lot of people. So how surprising is it though to you. I think it's it's. It's more surprising when you actually watch the games <hes>. It's obviously surprising. Anytime team goes through more than half of the season and their undefeated. But when you watch the steelers play the second half against tennessee titans even watching them to send the backup quarterback gets the denver broncos or be dominated upfront defensively the way they were against the baltimore ravens but still be undefeated. I think that's the fascinating part is not just that they've managed to win. Every game is just inside of those games. you seen opportunities for them to lose. But they've made the place that they've to. I mean you can even look at a match up against the dallas cowboys and say you know gary gilbert and the dallas cowboys may have deserve to win that game. But that's what this lied about was going to come down to one possession games. He's gonna come our critical situation though football moments and at least it does far. The steelers have found answers to any questions in those important moments. And this is why you sit undefeated. So how does this defense stack up. Ryan versus the steeler defense. Is that you played for that. You helped lead. What are the holes in this defense. You know what. I don't think they necessarily have holes in the sense of of those things being a negative right. He's looking to make a rush. The passer with just for the obviously can bring bring pressure make fitzpatrick ultimate playmaker on the back end and i think they have really good corners. But they don't have that great court but when you all those things together i think you get one of the top defense in the league especially when it comes to pressure and turning the ball over we. That's what football is right. Like people aren't going to hold you. Thirteen points like we did wait. Like that's not the ball we play it. You can't intimidate people like i would get fined and kicked out of every game. Five play james harrison fell six million dollars a year. You can't do those things anymore. But if you could get the ball which the pittsburgh steelers do know that really helps and that's why this team world season. Well i wanna get into the difference between playing football then versus now especially because offense is king these days as you implied right there so the defense is the big reason. The steelers are undefeated. The offense though i mean they've been relatively relatively average so can eighteen built around defense. Like the steelers are ryan. Can that sort of team win in the modern nfl. I believe they can. I believe they can. Because if you look at the individual weapons offensively like they are extremely. good <hes>. I think you you're missing that one running back piece but we look at pool. Smith schuster the johnson. Eric ebron like that's a skill set or skill position that a lot of teams would love to have especially teams not named became the city chiefs. And so if you can do all those things on the outside like they can. You can score points. Also look at this team at critical moments though. Think about tennessee. Titans having to get a drive late in the game even though been was a reception late like they were able to the ball greg band. There's gonna prevail on the road. The pittsburgh steelers had the hold on dearly man. Hold on they do for the baltimore. Ravens they score in the second half and they were able to do that then back pop. For the end zone touchdown pittsburgh and all the out cut to the chase. Claypool man play. It just seems that all the critical point of the season it's offense has been able to produce down to like. I said the dallas cowboy game last week obviously exploiting a very bad bengals defense and well in a team like the cat city chiefs right and i say okay. One had the baby stopped him have to limit big play. The pittsburgh steelers can do that with rush. Plays on the back end right. Play play man when they need to stop the big click now. Let's go offensively the only time we've ever seen patrick mahomes lose. He was in the playoffs. He was standing across from another super bowl. Winning quarterback that was tom brady and rothlisburger. Isn't tom brady but he can do. Some of those things in important moments. And we've seen of do those. And so i think this team can most certainly went into as you mentioned chase claypool his nickname if catching on with you but maple tron. He comes from canada. He's this guy. I didn't know anything about. I wonder if you did because he has seven touchdowns in his first nine games as a pro. What has he brought to this offense. I mean you look at what this league is turning into. Because of the lack of physicality it's a it's a size speed league right like it's starting to they used to be. It didn't matter what happened in the shorts olympics at the combine like if a fast it didn't necessarily mean it was going to translate do can do certain things there did me but it's starting to mean that at the wide receiver position because of the rules. Like if you could flat out run you're gonna probably get open because they can't hold you. You pass five yards. They can't hit you across the middle play putin critic who has great hands he tracks the ball. Well he has a big body and so when you have all those things just translate we've seen chase claypool. You know kind of come out of nowhere. They just kinda have a knack for finding people that sit what they want to do and utilizing them in a way. That truly helps the team chase. Claypool is just another example of that

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"ray  mcleod" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

08:36 min | 1 year ago

"ray mcleod" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"I hope I hope he's good. I hope. So but that's just it's just it's just like Tyler Wilson. You'll be the starter cut. You got to. Some. Players did use their. Short practice time very wisely. And we saw some. Guys turnover maleek Turner won the last receiver spot and Green Bay over Jay Kuro. And fans remember him. Ray. Ray McLeod. Pittsburgh was able to. Read out. beat out Ryan Switzer. At. A Cup of coffee with the raiders. And then of course the. head-scratching Lynn Bowden. Or a lower round in and for third rounder and. The pig back they put. Linebacker our it's weird. Like you know the cowboys reversing or on ha ha. Clinton dix after signing him off but if you look around. This teams here and there was like the AFC east. Jake from survives spent a fifth round pick on him. Gone little trouble on social media. But they were hoping that he would backup Jon. Allen. But instead, he found himself in a battle with wait for it Davis Webb. Be The number three guy. Davis. Webb at cal I want saw Davis Webb playing person down at. Sun Devil. Stadium. And his bear's loss to. The Lost Arizona State. That was in twenty sixteen on. Davis, Webb was doing the local radio shows with his agent and tell everybody he's going to be a first round pick and Mike. He's not. He was a transfer sonny dykes. He'd throw a lot of passes he had to to arm. Giants drafted him and I think a second round like a backup allows like never mind. But. There was speculation that from might not make the team and they cut web and I think this is an easy decision I. Think you know what you're getting from web from you don't know you're getting you might as well hold on them. So The Dolphins Josh Rosen is on the move again. Remember Josh Rosen. The cards made a deal with the raiders to the ten and then lithium over to Miami for two and a five. Well speaking five, the fifth overall pick this year was to attack of a Loa. Josh Rosen. Got The boot. The Patriots. Made kind of a surprising move. The first kicker off the board during the draft was justin roar of officer. Which means water from the roar river just in rural? Asa. With round pick at Marshall. which man? Okay. Well, that's it. For I mean Stephen. Dos Caskey. That's it but the patriots brought in Nick Folk. And Rosser got cut. Though it appeared that Falk had won the competition. Folk cut to. The Patriots Don't have a field goal kicker. Not Officially. I'm sure they have a plan. We've cut all our kickers. Losing by two and we're on our own twenty, we have to throw it. The jets have a new planet center. Jonathan Harrison has been playing a lot of center over the years. This is Jonathan. UT'S J. O N. O. T. T H Chau and. You're not hand. started. All the games last year but despite. His experience. Are, moving on. And Josh Andrews was also part of the teams cuts. Though Adam case has some several new faces on the line in the North and the AFC, the Ravens are going to go sparse at tight end. That's a team that's always usually marked with great ends. They're going to try it out. Arc. Andrews WHO'S Catch the ball Nick Boyle who can block and then the former. Trump Hayden hearst, but he didn't hers traded to the Falcons. Would be the, third guy. Well, they cut all of them. Are All scarf Terrell Adams. UNDRAFTED free agent Amy Lie Wolf. So right now they have to but here's the thing as we speak I'm sure they have guys in there. You just look at who everybody else cuts and a lot of times. You say, this guy's GonNa. Catch from that team. Let's just wait for him. Now the Bengals didn't have a lot of drama on their day. Outside of the fact that they're only keeping three quarterbacks with three career starts between them all and Ryan, Finley? Because the other. Guy's trying to be third-string Brandon alum and Jacob Ola. Gala. Both cut. So we'll see what happens there the browns. I mean Kevin Stefanski taken over the reins in Cleveland. We knew we'd see a lot of. Interesting offensive formations especially, he loves the multiple tight ends, but they traded their former. First Round pick a joke who out of the you. Because they gave Austin Hooper that massive contract extension. Now they're going back to Harrison Bryant Fourth Round Pick. So. FERAL Brown. Stephen Carlson. Sort of left them fighting for one spot? No, they're keeping five five tight ends. I'll I can ask is. Why And as I said the in Pittsburgh. Role Reduce. Last year. And so ray Ray McLeod. Who can return the ball as well? He's in. But. If you think about the receivers. Missing out on initial roster. Spots. You know with. Black, Nall, Cain Deandra Tompkins Amara. means. You have McLeod with Smith Schuster Johnson, Johnson James Washington, and then the rookie. As. Klay. Pool. Their high on as well. As capable, you hear these names in the draft because you sent spent so much time pouring over them. Is the kid out of Canada who? Played for Notre Dame obviously but lay pulls one of those big kids six, five to forty. So He's getting he's getting a look there. By the way speaking of that division with Cleveland they I, mean the browns made a good pick Chubb who went to the pro bowl. Today. They've also excited extension with Kareem Hunt. Or Eighteen, point, two, five, million, eight, and a half guaranteed. And so he's GonNa earn a total of sixteen and a half million over the next three years. It makes them the twelfth highest paid running back in the league with average salary of five and a half. Million but. This. was a steel because of what happened in and Kansas City as he got the boot. And if he can keep his nose clean, that's going to be a huge boost to that offense. Baker Mayfield. We'll talk about somebody on the other side I'm real quick break get back on Bilal. Attention to anyone that's written a book a wants to write a book the processes, not that complicated. Take a first step. 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