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Greg Kelly of Newsmax Discusses Dad Ray Kelly's NYPD Legacy

The Eric Metaxas Show

01:44 min | 3 d ago

Greg Kelly of Newsmax Discusses Dad Ray Kelly's NYPD Legacy

"Greg Kelly, are the son of the famous celebrated New York police department commissioner ray Kelly, who I've had the privilege of meeting a couple of times. So you have a very interesting background just in terms of being a real New Yorker. Well, that's true. And by the way, I'm glad you pointed out, yeah, you think it's kind of obvious the left is wrong about law enforcement. However, and they've been wrong about law enforcement for a long time, but there was a shift starting in about 2011, 2012, where and it really went into overdrive in 2020. Where the left suddenly started to ignore rioting and pillaging and the death and destruction of riots. I mean, the left media, they always had sympathy for those usually perpetrating the violence all the way back in the 60s, all the way through the 90s that Rodney King riots, but they still condemned the riots themselves. And they didn't really sugarcoat it. And that all changed in 2020. And it was pretty dramatic. So I wanted to address all of this. I wanted to figure out how it happened. And you mentioned my dad, I dedicate the book to him, it was a remarkable he is a remarkable law enforcement figure. And he did so much good when he left his position in 2013. His personal approval rating in New York City, which is almost majority, was used majority non white, was at 75%. Which is kind of crazy. When you think about it. Well, it kind of tells you that no matter what color you are, you don't like crime.

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Greg Kelly: The Inspiration for Writing 'Justice for All'

The Dan Bongino Show

01:56 min | Last week

Greg Kelly: The Inspiration for Writing 'Justice for All'

"Should all pick it up justice for all by Greg Kelly common spelling chem S it up The book looks absolutely incredible We're going to get into that because nobody has a better bird's eye view of what goes on with policing Greg and justice than you Your father was the famous ray Kelly guy I have the utmost admiration for police commissioner New York City really him Howard safer and that group Jack maple clean the city up So nobody's seen this or knows it better than you have an incredible history of service to the country as well So tell us about the book what inspired you to write it and why should the listeners pick it up Well it was during the summer of Black Lives Matter 2020 when I noticed the wheels coming off the train in terms of this country The culture lost its mind A complete overreaction to what happened to George Floyd And it muted even some prominent critics at the time And I noticed that the conversation in America about race was getting even sillier and sillier And I've thought for a while now that we're having a silly conversation about race to avoid having a substantive one An important one a helpful one that might be uncomfortable And for a brief period of time it looks like Barack Obama was going to be leading that conversation But he got scared the left didn't want him talking that way So they shut him down As you know the left has been working to undermine law enforcement for decades But something happened again in 2020 where corporations major corporations institutions that we know and value I mean formally the FBI that they bought on to something they had no understanding what they were actually signing on for Black Lives Matter this hideous ideology

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Why Dave Rubin Writes About Legend Rudy Giuliani in His Latest Book

The Eric Metaxas Show

01:56 min | 10 months ago

Why Dave Rubin Writes About Legend Rudy Giuliani in His Latest Book

"There folks, I'm talking to Dave Rubin. Yes, that's right. Don't burn this country is the new book we were just talking off the air about Rudy Giuliani, whom I had the privilege to meet and interview recently. So Dave, what do you talk about in the book that's related to him? You said there was something. Yeah, well, I've met the mayor a few times, and I've interviewed him a couple of times. And you know, he's a rather extraordinary character in American history who's, you know, because of the last couple of years and with a little bit of the hair dye dripping down the side of his face, his image has been banged up a little bit. But I write about him in the context of the book for two reasons. First, I lived in New York City during 9 11 and my dad worked in New York City in midtown. He saw the second plane hit the tower. He was the one that called me and said, you got to get up and turn on the news and then I had the experience that so many of us New Yorkers had of, I had friends and relatives that couldn't get out of the city staying with me for days on end. We were all glued to the TV for weeks, all of that stuff. But one of the things that kept New York saying and not just New York saying, not just New York City, not just New York State, but the entire United States and I think you could argue the world was that Rudy Giuliani's entire life had led him to that very moment to be the leader at that time. And when we turned on the television and you saw him walking through those streets with ray Kelly with all of the firemen and the police officers and all the first responders knowing there is someone in charge who is competent and decent and ready for this job. It's an extraordinary feeling because we all need that. We need leaders and unfortunately these days we don't have leaders who deserve to be leaders. We have sort of a clown car of craziness, but Rudy's life led him to that, which is why I write about him in the book, because not only was he the attorney general, and he fought the mafia. He was an Italian guy, you know, from New York fighting the mafia and winning.

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"ray kelly" Discussed on CATS Roundtable

CATS Roundtable

05:37 min | 1 year ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on CATS Roundtable

"I mean everybody thought right after labor day new is going to open up. Doesn't i'm not getting the pulse that we're opening up right now after labor day I had some Dinner the other day and with was high level bankers and said well we going to open up this month and we're putting it off the next month or next week etc etc. Which what she. You know new york better than anybody. What you'll get feeling in midtown today and Very few people on the street if as light rain. But i was so shocked at that. You see all these small stores. Small businesses advertisement. They remain close many of them. You know will never never reopen. I mean i hope new york comes back and comes back soon. But i i know what you mean. I don't see the indicators of that. I know a lot of happy talk that that says coming back but i think we have a long way to go. People are still very very concerned about writing in subway They you know their bad things can happen to you on the On the subway. So what are they doing. They're they're staying above. Ground taking cars of If they can. I guess so working from all i if there's any traffic is because people are not doing mass transit. That's the reason for the right. Not not real. People you know lower manhattan. They said the subway Population was down eighty two percent because the last number i saw. That's incredible number if that's the case so we've got we've got to do everything we can ensure people and that the subways are safe if it takes more cops or whatever it takes we gotta gotta get him get him on those platforms because the subway to go back to the old days competent every platform just about well. That's very expensive and very very difficult to but Yeah i think we need some some dramatic movement to To get those subways under control and get people's confidence up to hey they can write it in peace guys..

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"ray kelly" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

77WABC Radio

02:05 min | 1 year ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

"But I could be wrong back here on the Bernie in situ. Oh, with Congressman Peter King it Sid Rosenberg. Let's go straight to, uh, Jim. Who is a Vietnam? Better enough gym in Brooklyn. Good morning, Jimbo. Hey, Good morning, guys. Hey, Congressman King one quick point for you. You better get to Paris is this year Because Roberto, sell it out. So, um, he's finally succumb to the wishes of Notre Dame. Really? Oh, wow. Yeah, that is a great restaurant. I didn't know that I I love going. Roberto's. The whole family is fantastic. And then you can find Digger Phelps is usually sitting over in the corner there all the time all the time. Listen, I'm a proud Vietnam vet. These guys running our government and running our military. We refer to these guys C B. C N. C and the clipboard carrying Noncombatants. You guys can finish the rest. I like these guys have no credibility. None at all. And when you mentioned ST Theresa's yesterday, my mother's name was Teresa. We lived in Greenpoint states of Syria without parish. But she used to bug my father. Let's go to ST Theresa's for Miss. Uh, centuries is, of course, in Woodside, Queens, Queens, also in Brooklyn. There's two of them would side and you went to a century century. Yeah, so Green Point I was Greenpoint was part of queens because you just go over there. No, no, no. Seven went right over the casket. Asco bridge when I was a kid, Yeah, but I'll share and go right or like Greenpoint Avenue. Goes right from Woodside into okay. Alright, It's easy to go from which side The Greenpoint is from Woodside's attacks tonight, so no But ST Theresa's Yeah, that was, uh, heard yesterday People drowned in Laurel Hill Boulevard. I mean, that's God. That's right. No. Yeah, Just absolutely horrendous is what happened. Listen, just quick shout out to my retired NYPD Detective Brian Costello. Went to ST Therese is, um Woodside as well. Listen so to Ray Kelly. Wow, Look at that Very celebrity studied. Dr Fauci is going to jail. Biden got heckled in New Jersey yesterday on the burning and said shot. Red Apple media is proud to celebrate 100 years as.

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"ray kelly" Discussed on 860AM The Answer

860AM The Answer

06:16 min | 1 year ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on 860AM The Answer

"I saying that because the one and only Larry Elder Is on the line with me. Right now He's going to be the next governor of California, a couple of more issues. He's got a little more time with me a couple of more issues that I'd like you to speak on. Mr Elder. You guys have a or Larry, you have a drought and water issue in the state of California. There seems to be a forestry management problem. When last time I visited California all of the the freeways that used to look beautified nice landscaping, manicured and all that kind of stuff just look like total crude brush fire. Buyers waiting to happen. Give us your take on that, and also l. A rapper, which is shot dead on Instagram live. I don't know if you heard of that, Um, just a couple of days ago. The crime is insane. So talk to us about that as well. Well, lots of things are insane. By the way. The former governor Jerry Brown, Carl just gave an interview to Conan Nolan, the NBC reporter who just interviewed me and Brown said the spending street spending spree is crazy. He criticized the rising homelessness and thought the proposal to move homeless encampments to beach parking lots with absolutely insane. He talked about the inequality going on in the state. I mean, he almost made a commercial for me now the answer of the forest. Yeah. Your contract the way the private force are done. This is the way the state owned forests are done. The private owned forest clear the lands, even outgoing Jerry Brown says. We've got to clear the fallen trees and Gavin Newsom has cleared some. We lied about the amount of acres that he cleared. That's what that's what need to be done. And regarding water. We're not Preparing for the future. Bill Jones, the last real conservative my opinion they got elected statewide, the regeneration California farmer and he said art water infrastructure supports a state that's 20 million. We have a state at 40 million. We don't have enough underground storage so that when it does rain, we can store things so that when there are droughts and there are inevitably drought, nobody can control that will be able to have enough water for it. We're not right. In regarding the crime. You know, you have a law that allows you to steal 950 bucks every single day without any real consequences. You have a an attack on the police called them chemically racist. So they're pulling back surprise surprise when you lower the likelihood of a crook being caught being convicted of being incarcerated, crime goes up. That's what's going on here. And even Jerry Brown criticizing that Mike went for crying out loud. Yeah, This is, uh, it's on saying the the the, uh, the video that I saw on on instagram. I mean, it's really heartbreaking again. It was an L. A rapper. He was sitting there just join the live chat. It looked like with a friend of his all of a sudden you hear this voice in the background. You don't see the gentleman that shot Ash and say, gentlemen, the criminal that shot him on, Unfortunately, but, uh, the guy gets shot several times. Right inside of his vehicle, and I couldn't help but to think, Larry that All of these. You know, the black lives matter. I'll call them Uncle BLM, by the way. So the uncle BLM movement and all these guys that have scared cops away. Uh Are making the streets more dangerous for people like you and I, for black people, quite honestly. And that's what I thought about now. I used to roam the streets of l A. I got in a lot of trouble in l. A on one of these people. I'm just an average Joe. I went from criminal to Christian. Too conservative the full nine yards. But when I look at that video I'm so sad because I can't help but to think Mr Elder if somebody doesn't step in a leader like yourself. And starts backing the Blue California is going to see more stuff like this pretty frequently. Absolutely much of police work is discretionary, The former NYPD commissioner Ray Kelly said. Only 7% of cops now say they would recommend the job to a friend or to a family member. They're pulling back. They're not engaging a proactive policing anymore. Bad guys know that crime is going up. Meanwhile, you told young black men that the cops are out to get them. And as a result, you have young black men who are now being injured all because they don't comply. Comply. You won't die. But the so called leaders black lives matters not telling people that you look at virtually every one of these high profile shootings had the I had the person comply. Right. What happened would not have happened. So this war against the cop has got to go. The the last way we're treating criminals has to go. We have to d 81 in San Francisco and one in l. A who don't apparently seem to believe criminals commit crime. They both need to be recalled in this recall election for them as well. I would urge people to get behind that election as well. That's good. That's good. Alright, schools are still closed. It's hard being in a state of Florida. Honestly, I was just reading through the elect elder dot com elect elder dot com website. And I saw schools are still closed out there. I know school. I don't know if you guys are on all year, all year round sessions out there if school starts in the fall, But I'm guessing if it does start in the fall, there's there's not necessarily any hope for students going back. Is that what's going on there? Well, schools are going to start in the fall. But believe it or not, there's still a mandating that they were masked. In most instances. Are you kidding me? The scientists already there the teachers have been vaccinated. But the governor is still mandating that people wear masks now because this came out a few days ago, people really got P O D. He's now backing up and saying, Well, we'll let the district decided what to do. But initially he wanted to keep imposing a mask mandate again. He's totally beholding the teachers union, which is why he did not support choice in school. The reason he does it the reason teachers Don't is because these charter schools if teachers go there, they don't automatically get union dues. The union dues are voluntary, and they don't want that. And never mind. The crappy education. People are getting K through 12. I mentioned 75% of black kids cannot read at state level of proficiency. Nearly 50% of all kids cannot. My former high school I pick up the newspaper L a times a couple years ago, Carl. Only 3% of kids at my former high school can do math at grade level. Now. Who the hell are you serious to do Math at grade level Republicans want to give them choice. Democrats do not So I think independents and Democrats 2.2 million people signed the petition to recall Gavin Newsom and a bunch of them were people that voted for him as independents and Democrats. They've changed their mind. And I believe that I can make the argument that the connection between the rising crime and homelessness and the high cost of living and the the arrogant way he handled this mandate that the connection between the All those things and Governor Gavin Newsom and cohort intact memento. So please go to elect elder dot com and let's turn this state around because we've got a state to say, Carl..

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"ray kelly" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

04:57 min | 1 year ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Webcams and networking accessories. More at staples stores or staples dot com. STAPLES. It's morning edition on W N. Y C M. Michael Hill and the crowded race for New York City Mayor Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams is consistently counted as a front runner. But he has a stubborn generation gap in his support. His campaign has not caught on with younger New Yorkers. W My CI's Glen Hogan reports. Brooklyn Borough president Eric Adams is dressed for the occasion in a pinstripe suit and tie. Thank you a real significant moment for me to be here. With Abner Louima. Louima was brutally beaten by NYPD officers in 1997. He came from his home in Florida to endorse Adams for mayor not believed. Will be the greatest made 40 with city. The endorsement was meant in part for younger voters who may not have heard of Louima is the message. Those who have just discovered Fight for police reform. Have been committed to this for my entire life. Adams is a former police officer who co founded an advocacy group for black officers as a state senator. He testified against former police Commissioner Ray Kelly in the federal stop and Frisk trial. Adams hasn't managed to captivate young voters who want more radical change, especially when it comes to policing for like me, and for a lot of my peers they've seen over the past couple of decades that efforts to reform policing Has not made us safer. That's 19 year old Jada Shannon, a political science major at Hunter College. She says Adams more incremental approach hasn't worked. He thinks this is the only route we have to make it better and like That just isn't true. Political science Professor Christina Greer says Adams has a hard needle to thread if he wants to recruit younger supporters, young black progressives, They're like different. The police abolish the police. Older black homeowners like Where are the police? Look, I don't want these people on my yard. What is happening? I own a house, she says it may be wise for Adam's to spread his message of public safety to his base of older, more moderate Democrats across the city. They're more reliable voters. Anyway, There's something to be said about like dance with the person who brought you the news bringing you are moderates. Who care about crime and safety. Oh, God, Who makes all things new? Speak to us. At a vigil in Brownsville last month, residents of the van Dyke houses gathered to mourn the killing of a mother and her two Children. It is in your name we duper A man. Among those gathered was 61 year old Lair ship. Oh, a likely Adam's voter. Come June. When you think about how to communities have set up it kind of shut up to explode a lack of jobs, few after school programs, parents are stressed. Asked which mayoral candidate might be best suited to tackle those issues. She smiled. Well, You know, I kind of like my borough president. I think he has demonstrated that you know, his heart is for people. On the campaign trail. In recent weeks, Adams has been talking about the rise in shootings more than any other candidate in the race. I'm alarmed At the definite silence that we're hearing about this gun violence in our community. Unlike other more left wing candidates, Adams doesn't want to decrease the NYPD budget. He wants more funding for the unit handles gun violence and more spot checks, a train and bus stations to seize illegal weapons. These solutions to younger generation seemed like more of the same. He has old ways of thinking about what he considers reformed City Council member Antonio Reynaud. So who is running to succeed? Adams's borough president, is part of a younger generation of Brooklyn leadership. Another member of the new guard is state Senator Andrew Good artists He worked with Adam's and is supporting him for mayor. He sees the generation gap a little differently. We often grow up and we intentionally avoid taking the advice of our parents, I would venture to say. That Perhaps some people are not hearing Eriks message, even though it's the same as other candidates, but in a slightly different way, because we want to not hear it may be another sign of a generation gap. Adams isn't on social media much, but that didn't stop him from going viral. A few weeks ago, a video he made in 2011 was recirculated, innit? He encourage parents to search their Children's rooms. Look at all the items inside the room with Phil around, See was to possibility, looking for guns or drugs soon. Paper BOY love Prince, a 28, year old rapper and artist.

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"ray kelly" Discussed on CATS Roundtable

CATS Roundtable

05:45 min | 1 year ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on CATS Roundtable

"So i mean serious problem. Absolutely what is it going to do to do real estate industry. What's going to do all of the ancillary businesses that that were making their living based on the population density of new york city during the during the workday I unfortunately don't see that coming back coming back anytime soon. I love new york. I lived here my whole life Born hair gonna die here but It's just not the place. It was ten years ago to just compare. They ended the bloomberg administration was eight years ago. A little less than eight years ago. With the end of the blasi over and assertion as is the the be going out the door in six or seven months Between night and day this man has destroyed The this'll be his legacy. And even you know what as far as the people who need Mental health assistance on the street. You remember the program thrive that was going to be run or by charlene mccray. Yes the the wife of may applause zeal. Well eight hundred fifty million dollars later and nobody can really tell you where that money went. We still see this hordes of people are who are need our help or crying for help. Nobody is talking about creating more institutional beds for people with severe mental disorder in those people. You know the so-called progressives were who. I really quote regressive. Ask people's mentally ill. People deserve to be in hospitals being taken care of and they just throw them on the streets in new york. You know they're supposed to take medication. I don't take medication or they are alcoholics. Whatever they need our help they need societies l. They're not getting it and and the citizens of new york everyday citizens on the victims of this disorder. They're the ones who are being robbed or being assaulted who being pushed on on the tracks. Something's gotta be done about. This renders situation. People can see it on the street to new york. It's it's just literally feels less safe then is it..

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"ray kelly" Discussed on CATS Roundtable

CATS Roundtable

05:56 min | 1 year ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on CATS Roundtable

"Well new york. What's going on. Are we ever going to open up new york. Well who would. Who do we have with us. We have ray kelly. Who's been police commissioner. For new york for twelve twelve years and a lot of people said he should run for mayor. Good morning commissioner. How are you today. i'm fine but unfortunately new york city is not It's just we're still closed down and it doesn't look like it's going to come back anytime soon. Unfortunately well commission a you know what i've been saying lately. It looks like we gonna win the covert problem by july of lot of doctors saying that it's going to be almost over and the next thing we need is more in order but our politicians in both orbiting end me city a finding against it by creating new laws. The latest law they created is qualified identity. That means if the police officer does something wrong. Then they can get sued What say you incredible john that these politicians think that their constituents are more concerned about hamstringing the than in protecting them and they may be right. I mean the world is turned upside down. This elimination of qualified immunity is just another example of politicians any obstacles in the path of police officers. So they can't do their jobs. It's clear they want cops to do literally nothing. They're going to put all these burdens on them and listened visit with dealing with smart people. Police officers they're not going to jeopardize wellbeing of their family their own wellbeing by doing good faith efforts to Protect us they're going to step back and they have stepped back and that's where we are. So i who look down the road As far as crime reduction new york city. It's a very bleak. Picture is no light at the end of the tunnel. As far as i can see the mayoral candidate so far Talking about any sort of crime with option it's all about monitoring restricting replace. And i i just don't get i've been around a long time. I can remember the days when politicians would say. Hey i'm tougher on crime than my opponent. Now you hear. Any of that is very much a concern for citizens in new york. You saw that terrible attack on that asian woman last monday. The you know kind of made you sick. It was happening so blatantly. Eleven forty in the morning. But i think it's indicative of a much deeper problem. That is the huge number of people who need mental health health assistance on the streets of our city roaming free with and sort of professional help. These are the people who are pushing. subway riders onto the tracks are the ones that are relating assaults. They're the ones that are aggressively panhandling on the streets that allowed to cover it. We need something done as far as i can see. There's nobody in talking about this. Is she your the problem. Was that woman was getting. Beat up a kick the security guard from the building right right in front a locked his door instead of going out.

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"ray kelly" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

77WABC Radio

06:39 min | 2 years ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

"City, New York City 2021. You can't you can't even go a few hours without another story about the shoved Iranian hell that is shot. Subway 70% less ridership. And you could have attributed that back in March the lockdown to the fear that Corona virus was spreading in the subways. It was a real fear of that, although that turned out not to be true, according to the analytics. That's not why people staying off the subways. I know I talked to them all the time with the Guardian Angels. They had just terrified to take the subways. And, uh, whether it's pushing things emotionally disturbed people pushing people into the tracks before oncoming trains. Or it is just random assaults that make no rhyme. No reason there's no robbery attached. It's just a continuation. Just the other Dad. Guardian Angels had First Avenue on the L train. Guy 61 years old Hispanic worker working two jobs. Slashed from ear to ear by what I think was an initiation by a blood gang member. But that's still to be proven. The suspect is still loose, but there's no better person we could have on the line right now. Then former NYC police commissioner longest serving since Teddy Roosevelt started the department and now CEO of the Guardian Group, Ray Kelly. Thanks for jumping on board race. Card. It's always good to be with him, and I never figured super sports spectacular. You will have that. Thank you. Thank you. We need to tell shit. Well, Schimberg, Dad, Because I've told him that you would actually go out of your way when you were police Commissioner to listen to my Kurdish Lee was super sports Spectacular. On W A. B C. All right. I did. All right now you can start that up anytime you want. I know you so interested in sports. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Sarah. Now take me back to when you got out of Malloy High school, you know, White shoes, Malloy High school out there in Queens. Uh, the end to the police department after further education. When did you and uniformed first run across emotionally disturbed persons? And what were the rules and regulations how to deal with them. Then, when you were a rookie cop in the NYPD Well, I think quite frankly, that they weren't particularly well formed. That was a little bit of catches Can't stand Thean Emergency service unit was not nearly as sophisticated or developed. As it is now, and it was starting in the in the eighties, and I did work in the Emergency service unit. They are very skilled at handling the most user of people of public doesn't seem to know that That they handle about 125,000 of these cases a year. Their emergency psychological technicians, their burden, see medical technicians. They could We see them also a lot of training, and I don't people keep talking about having health care professionals going to do this business. Guess what? He's tried that many times. They don't want to do it. It's dangerous work, and if they do, do it, they're going to be accompanied by a police officer. I'm not certain reading it. The savings is in that regard. So, uh, there's no easy answer the police department and police evolving throughout the country, quite frankly, and come a long way in better handling emotional serve people they can always go arrived always be. Problem with it is very sensitive and difficult work. But you shouldn't lose sight of the fact that the NYPD has, I think a remarkable record at handling emotional Easter people now we went out to do it quite frankly, now former commissioner Ray Kelly Use. You gave a stat there that is mine bar going, How many cases per year On average? Would the NYPD responding to that involved emotionally disturbed persons? By the 120 to 25,000 year. That's tremendous number and in verse, you all of them are referred to patrol. The police officer responds to the call, but they await But they're not there already. The arrival of the emergency service here who are these highly trained Police officers who are very capable of handling these very complex situations, not Commissioner Kelly. I've seen the responses of late And in time she will take the person for a psych analysis at a nearby municipal hospital. Maybe Bellevue in the city. It could be Elmhurst in Queens, Kings County in Brooklyn. Um, but I noticed the people are out back on the streets. Almost women ours now. Is that the way it used to be? What? What? What did it require in order to get somebody committed so they could get mental care and mental health help? Well, usually was required a crime. You know a serious crime, he says. Years ago I'm talking about, you know, Now we have Kendra's law. On the books that I'm told is underutilized. This is where a judge can commit. Someone threw a necessitate to shin or two at least additional treatment. But it's not uses a frequency that it should be The other words This person goes to court, and the judge makes his determination to institutionalize that person. Not forever. But for It's for a period of time where they can get you additional help, so that that's one of the evidence that they have to be better explored before us emotionally sort of people are concerned. Now you that conversation said in on an intellectual level, with a lot of detractors of the police responding to emotionally disturbed the coals. What has been their arguments. Why is it they don't want the police involved? Especially since they don't seem to have come up with a sufficient alternative. Well, these attractive don't want the police involved in anything like to please to go away right now as we speak the City Council. Is looking at 12 bills, and the goal is to reduce the footprint of the NYPD, their stated goal, so there's no logic behind it. They can't point to programs that are successful that eliminate the police. You need that You need the police ability to go to a.

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"ray kelly" Discussed on AM 570 The Mission

AM 570 The Mission

05:37 min | 2 years ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on AM 570 The Mission

"All right, Calvin McCullough glide heavy with us. I don't think there's any question that we in the New York City tri State area, particularly those of us that love and use the city on a regular basis. Have had, um have had some some really strong concerns about you know the trend of things in the last couple of years. And as we were kind of kicking off this new year, even though we're Ah, month into it, I wanted to stop and pause for some discussions of where we're at and what we're facing by way of the, uh, next season, if you will, in terms of what we're gonna be dealing with a particularly from the law, inform enforcement perspective and I'm so honored to have Former commissioner Ray Kelly. Back with us, you know that he has served this city on other cities s so well and he has done such a good job for America in some some really tough times. But, um, uh, Commissioner. It's always good to have you with us. Thanks for being back now the CEO of the Guardian Group, um and congrats to your son. For all the success he's having over on Newsmax these days. I just It's really quite cool to see the good guy win. In the in the narrative of big media these days. You gotta be a proud papa. Well, I certainly am and thank you for having me Kevin. But, yes, I'm very proud of great. Uh, he's in somebody great things in his wife on and now he's I think he came to my recognition for a lot of the talents that I believe he has a well deserved. Let's put it that way. A commissioner. We sat at a at a dinner party for the Catsimatidis is a couple of years ago, and at that time we had no idea that pandemic was going to come. We had no real idea that bail reform was gonna have the impact that it's had. And I'm just curious. Is your surveying where our city is at here in the early portion of 2021. What do your thoughts about what we are facing from a law enforcement perspective for this year? Well, it certainly has been a terrible year for New York City with the pandemics and of course, with the increasing in crime. Um Azzawi, look over the horizon or try to look over the horizon. Unfortunately on Very pessimistic about Lucy changing in crime. I think we're going to get past this time. Then it had some issues as far as the vaccinations to some, but that'll all be worked out. And hopefully by at least the fall. Uh, we can look at it in the review mirror. But crime is another another matter after the death of George florid There was a sea change in in law enforcement go actually some of the changes that occurred before the good for, But there's no question about it that American law enforcement certainly in New York City. You put on its back foot, the proactive strategy that worked So well in the past to reduce car and really throughout another for a good part of three decades, no longer being being prepped, we can see, you know, murder rates going up in the next 35 largest cities. In this country anywhere from 40 to 60%, New York They were up last year over, you know, 40%. So the question is, Will things change down the road? I don't see any drivers and things that will bring about a significant change in the posture of Lauren Force Mint, Then I believe that crime is up because off The backing, walk of blowing force and liking off the police agencies, basically because their political eagles have told them to back off. And that's sort of where we are in New York City we've seen, you know, increases that city last year 40% of murders on the standard for 10 shooting. Ourselves up over 60% You know those 40. Horns are things that could be difficult to turn around unless we see proactive policing sort of re emerged as a strategy in the city and other cities. Commissioner Shea just this week revealed that I think it's upwards of 90% of gun arrests of people that have been arrested for guns are back out on the street and have access to the guns again. And I'm curious. I mean, yeah, The proactive policing is part of it. But isn't it also the lack of any judge being really able to hold people that is also creating the kind of The kind of bold like they're not really going to do anything to me attitude that the criminals are able to get away with. Absolutely, I mean soul is part of a sort of a mosaic. Yeah. Letting criminals free penalizing the police reaction on the part of the police is not to engage. And that's why we see are really wild Connors. Yes, of course. Playing a role yet they are reformed playing room. Yes s so It is not one to take your issue, but it's a serious that Of changes that have been brought about, as they say in New York City. But also toe was excess nationwide that have important that the backing off

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Former Commissioner Ray Kelly on the state of crime and law enforcement in New York City

Kevin McCullough Radio

05:38 min | 2 years ago

Former Commissioner Ray Kelly on the state of crime and law enforcement in New York City

"All right, Calvin McCullough glide heavy with us. I don't think there's any question that we in the New York City tri State area, particularly those of us that love and use the city on a regular basis. Have had, um have had some some really strong concerns about you know the trend of things in the last couple of years. And as we were kind of kicking off this new year, even though we're Ah, month into it, I wanted to stop and pause for some discussions of where we're at and what we're facing by way of the, uh, next season, if you will, in terms of what we're gonna be dealing with a particularly from the law, inform enforcement perspective and I'm so honored to have Former commissioner Ray Kelly. Back with us, you know that he has served this city on other cities s so well and he has done such a good job for America in some some really tough times. But, um, uh, Commissioner. It's always good to have you with us. Thanks for being back now the CEO of the Guardian Group, um and congrats to your son. For all the success he's having over on Newsmax these days. I just It's really quite cool to see the good guy win. In the in the narrative of big media these days. You gotta be a proud papa. Well, I certainly am and thank you for having me Kevin. But, yes, I'm very proud of great. Uh, he's in somebody great things in his wife on and now he's I think he came to my recognition for a lot of the talents that I believe he has a well deserved. Let's put it that way. A commissioner. We sat at a at a dinner party for the Catsimatidis is a couple of years ago, and at that time we had no idea that pandemic was going to come. We had no real idea that bail reform was gonna have the impact that it's had. And I'm just curious. Is your surveying where our city is at here in the early portion of 2021. What do your thoughts about what we are facing from a law enforcement perspective for this year? Well, it certainly has been a terrible year for New York City with the pandemics and of course, with the increasing in crime. Um Azzawi, look over the horizon or try to look over the horizon. Unfortunately on Very pessimistic about Lucy changing in crime. I think we're going to get past this time. Then it had some issues as far as the vaccinations to some, but that'll all be worked out. And hopefully by at least the fall. Uh, we can look at it in the review mirror. But crime is another another matter after the death of George florid There was a sea change in in law enforcement go actually some of the changes that occurred before the good for, But there's no question about it that American law enforcement certainly in New York City. You put on its back foot, the proactive strategy that worked So well in the past to reduce car and really throughout another for a good part of three decades, no longer being being prepped, we can see, you know, murder rates going up in the next 35 largest cities. In this country anywhere from 40 to 60%, New York They were up last year over, you know, 40%. So the question is, Will things change down the road? I don't see any drivers and things that will bring about a significant change in the posture of Lauren Force Mint, Then I believe that crime is up because off The backing, walk of blowing force and liking off the police agencies, basically because their political eagles have told them to back off. And that's sort of where we are in New York City we've seen, you know, increases that city last year 40% of murders on the standard for 10 shooting. Ourselves up over 60% You know those 40. Horns are things that could be difficult to turn around unless we see proactive policing sort of re emerged as a strategy in the city and other cities. Commissioner Shea just this week revealed that I think it's upwards of 90% of gun arrests of people that have been arrested for guns are back out on the street and have access to the guns again. And I'm curious. I mean, yeah, The proactive policing is part of it. But isn't it also the lack of any judge being really able to hold people that is also creating the kind of The kind of bold like they're not really going to do anything to me attitude that the criminals are able to get away with. Absolutely, I mean soul is part of a sort of a mosaic. Yeah. Letting criminals free penalizing the police reaction on the part of the police is not to engage. And that's why we see are really wild Connors. Yes, of course. Playing a role yet they are reformed playing room. Yes s so It is not one to take your issue, but it's a serious that Of changes that have been brought about, as they say in New York City. But also toe was excess nationwide that have important that the backing off

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"ray kelly" Discussed on 710 WOR

710 WOR

05:45 min | 2 years ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on 710 WOR

"Donors and they keep this going and Republicans will never win. Another election s Oh, yeah, These are pretty dark days. Okay, But the normal times you could debate this immigration. But when you got a pandemic, and you've got tens of millions of people out of work, why would you let anybody in the country How do they justify it? I know, I know. Because they don't care. They don't care. They this is this'd is everything for them, which again is why some of us wanted a wall. If on Lee Trump had been president. Um, And what else? What else? My boy. Let me ask you another question. Like a bail reform. Sounds too good to them. Bail reform. Everybody on bail. So New York you get the biggest crime spike in history. Why don't they say to themselves? You? Maybe we ought to back off on that little. Why don't they adjust it? No, You're absolutely right on crime, and I wrote quite a bit about this in my book, mugged about the crime issue and hell it'd been solved. But we've gone back and forth. And I warned in the book that as soon as assumes liberals got control of the lovers again. The first thing they would do is start releasing criminals. We went through all of these preposterous, um, liberal ideas on crime in the seventies and what happened? Blood ran in the streets in New York City. The National Guard, the city mod awas, No radio. Um, squeegee man, you couldn't walk any place. Um, Rudy Giuliani, the the Ronald Reagan of Mayors came in and immediately just get everyone has been policies that conservative thinkers and writers James Q Wilson. I've been writing about floor ever forever. I mean, also computer technology, which is very important. They knew where crimes were going up, and they send cops there, but also enforcing a low level crimes. The turnstile jumping well, I mean, your audience lived through it and knows that Um, it was miraculous. It was miraculous how the crime rate went down. In fact, it was so miraculously when when Rudy Giuliani ran for for reelection, The New York Times endorsed him. That's what happens if you keep your promises from supporters, Um, you win reelection because it works. It was so miraculously, what was done to New York life was possible again. Things Brooklyn was possible, and now I knew as soon as they got control again, I know Let's try releasing criminals. Now you're living through the hell you're living room now in New York. So please, Please, please mayoral candidates for for New York City. I promise you. I don't care what The New York Times says it's op ed page. Everyone knows you can't nothing is possible without without safety. Please run on a law and order platform. I don't care if you want social wasn't beyond that. Well, we don't have any candidate like that yet. We're working on Ray Kelly. That's the perfect candidate. But Citibank die. Surely he and feel he's the worst. Ray Maguire. I think so. Oh, God, you will go. Just Google Ray Maguire interview, see a lot of interviews where he's badmouthing the police, and he doesn't like the police know he's a better guy. Not to mention his campaign manager is Valerie Jarrett. It's another Obama. Yeah, but Obama puppet. That's what we need. So, uh, but, uh, he won't be run Can't want their neighborhood Duane Reade looted every night. We'll explain this to me every even call. He's not stupid. He sees the biggest crime spike ever in New York. Why doesn't he say this is going to drive everybody to move away? I got l lose my tax base. Why don't they just leave it at least adjust it a little. I am wondering. Maybe if maybe Cuomo is just because this seems very weird on you're the one who brought up and thank you, Mark Simone it and realized that the governor has the power to remove a mayor, if if Cuomo wants Wants to make up for killing all those old people who moved the blob, Eo good grief. And now is it the blood of your Cuomo or thinking of throwing another tax on on? I guess old, just the wealthy in New York. Hey, You're that island. Just gonna be down. It's gonna be a wall. Fair island. There will be no actually making money on the island of Manhattan. If all the restaurants are closed, and everything is closed, no Broadway, no restaurants. No anything. What is the point of living here? Right. It's the most cramped, crowded place on Earth. Your only living here for the fun. This stuff you can do here, right? Right. I can't believe the restaurants are still closed. Yeah, I know. You travel around the country everywhere else. They're open and they're fine. Everything's the O more nya you like in a head to head competition these days who could be crazier? You could reckon great state first. What's gonna happen with by now? The fake news covers up for him every day like crazy. Are they going to keep that up for four years covering up all his blundering mistakes? Well, if you want to have some fun, and I know Trump stirs Don't want to even think about politics right now. I'm just hoping they're grieving process is his shorter than the Democrats are here. I'm.

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"ray kelly" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

77WABC Radio

06:15 min | 2 years ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

"The morning continues all morning from Sheena Easton. Morning train to this one. On this Bernie in situ again. Mike Ditka coming up at 9 25 ft. Bernie at 9 40. But every Wednesday we do a newsmax personality God Grant on a couple of weeks ago, this guy is great watching every night at seven o'clock like he's a reason why poor Martha MacCallum who's a lovely lady got demoted. What's up? I don't know. She was part of the reason as well. She was too too rough business, and Greg Kelly is great on Newsmax Here. He is Greg Kelly with Bernie and said, Greg. Good morning. Welcome to the show. Guys. Thank you very, very much. Yeah, It's been kind of wild. This ride of the secret is it's not much of a secret. We're not afraid to tell the truth and amazing. Please. So somebody that works websites are afraid to talk about the truth and, uh, some of them. I don't blame because there are no significant consequences like The threat of cancelation not only of your show but of your life if you tell the truth, but I guess I wasn't raised that way. Okay. Thank God. Now listen. Your dad is a frequent guest on this show to former police Commissioner Ray Kelly, who's a great great guy. We love him here till and listen, Greg. The truth is your truth is another man's lies in others 80 million people who don't believe it's the truth. But there was 75 million million people, including me and Bernie, who do believe you're telling the truth? But regardless, that number accounts 75 million people. That are very upset and need somebody to talk to them, and you do a great job of that every weeknight. Thank you. And you know you read it an excellent excellent point. You're right. One man's truth is another man's life. And that's okay. But what we have here is and I thought it was a really chilling kind of very weird, and he got high marks for his normal address. What? When Joe Biden started talking about how we have to Right, The lies and defend the truth. Now that sounds for a millisecond like the great thing, But the government should not be in the business of determining what they think is a lie and what they think is the truth. They can set up the parameters of civil society, and we kind of have had them established for hundreds and hundreds of years. But if I want to talk about the unconstitutional voting that happened in Pennsylvania, I shouldn't be accused of hate speech. I shouldn't be accused of Somehow fueling what happened on January 6. I shouldn't be accused of being an in a coup plotter, and that's what's happening. These are legitimate conversations we're having now you could disagree. You could say act 77. This sham thing they passed. The Pennsylvania was legitimate. It wasn't but you know, we can have that discussion. But having a view that the votes were cast illegally doesn't make me an insurrectionist. And that's what I mean. By telling the truth, Pete, please feel free to disagree. But people should feel free. That's the part that I'm worried about. That's going away. Exactly right. Greg Kelly from Newsmax TV on the Bernie and Sid show, and by the way during that speech, wait his call for Unity. Joe Biden. He talked about fighting white supremacy. Well, they say that the Columbus Day is a symbol of white supremacy. They say that the border wall is a symbol of white supremacy. So it's really to use their terminology. Dog whistled white supremacy for Trump voters, and that's how we say, saying should be defeated. But before we get into mechanics and more politics, Greg Kelly Last night. Your show is great. I mean, it was I watched all the time. I've been DVR in you. So you get counted A, You know more than that. Otherwise, then if I just watched you, but, I mean, it was funny. Last night, you played the Hogan's Heroes of music to the those clowns making the march from the house to the Senate. Priceless interview with Rand Paul and you do a great trump impersonation. But listen, here's the thing about you What I love about you. I think I think you feel about President Trump the way I feel the respect and admiration and yes, the love that we had for this man, this good man who did so much for this country and he was so viciously persecuted with lies and slander that continues to this day and they try to dismiss. This is cult members. They wish they had a Donald Trump on their side. Well, thank you said very much and you know I was burning Donald Trump. Forgive you. That's quite all right. They wouldn't want to be. We wouldn't want those words coming out of his mouth s o. I had I had had to clarify. Anyway. Go ahead, Greg. I'm sorry. No, I listen to a YouTube video. I got to get these guys straight because let's face it. I don't think we've ever met the flesh. You were on my show the Good day, New York show. Barney wants sounds right. I did meet you in the flesh. I met you. And you should remember because your father even said I was the most handsome and well dressed man that night at Jon Katz Materials birthday party this summer. I saw you outside by the church to remember. Oh, yeah, that was a That was quite a night. I was so focused on the cake. You remember the case? The cake was amazing. Some of my wife My wife actually did not come with me and she was at home. And so I was just with my parents and my wife really checks out What I eat? What? I don't eat but listen, forgive me back to Donald Trump. He is a great man, incredibly talented. And, uh, you know, we'll never have anything like that again unless he runs. So here's what I say about Donald Trump. He's a you know, world class talent, and he brought World class skill to the office. Think about any other president. Any other president. We've had the past 60 or 70 years. They really weren't much good at anything else other than getting people to like them in elections. Um, you know Barack Obama George W. Bush? They did not. If they weren't president, they wouldn't be doing something off world class impact, with the possible exception of General Eisenhower, who knew something that? Well, um,.

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"ray kelly" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer

AM 970 The Answer

06:29 min | 2 years ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer

"Answer fired up this morning baby off. We are fired up. Very pleased to tell you that Commissioner Ray Kelly is kind enough to join us. He is a law enforcement legend, The longest serving commissioner of the NYPD and history. Former Commissioner of the U. S Customs Service and all around great guy and a spectacular He is the Gene Krupa of Law Enforcement Commissioner Ray Kelly. Great. Welcome back, Man. No way. Is that true? But you are. You're world class. I think many things. You are fantastic. It's I'm honored that you say that I talked to do, Greg. Congratulations on all the success Greg is having to him and a marine and a Harrier pilot. You do You know, Ray, I always say that your family's like royalty in New York We love you and so proud to have you New York. Hey, but I got to tell you before we get the law enforcement. You know who I got into now, you know? Gene Krupa was my guy. Talk about drums. And then, Buddy, Rich was really the guy that I really admired. But did you ever hear Guy Sonny? Pain? Count Basie's drummer, Sonny Painting was a jet. You gotta get right. You can't believe this guy was a wild man. I'm getting into it now, you know. Well, you're in a box. You mean you're reading about him when you have no actually familiar with that name? Yeah, I know I wasn't either. And I said no. I was watching Frank Sinatra and I'm talking to Ray Kelly. But frankly, I just sunny pate, But I gotta I gotta tell you, I'm watching Frank Sinatra and I hear the drums in the basic Bandit Count Basie band and I look and I then I did research on the drummer. It was It was the drummer that Mr Sinatra always wanted when he went out with Basie and a guy named Sonny Paint Commissioner. With respect, sir. Check it out. This guy could play like nothing else was. It's great to see you know. How did you get that? Yeah. How did you get started on the drums. You know what? I was like, Five years old. They gave me a drum, which was a big mistake. You know, the neighbors heard right away that I got drunk. But you know, I never took a lesson, but it's always something that fascinated me and I would say probably At least twice a week. I listened to sink sink thing, you know? Yeah. Do King troopers basically a solo song? You know, I'm still fascinated by it. But On guy, you know, have the fantasies. They're going down pretty much, but, hey, I was gonna go on a road with somebody, you know, But this uh you know, I love music, but Well, well, Is that what we're glad we're glad that you took the law enforcement road, sir? Because you hate you served New York so well, Hey, everybody we're gonna do about the security around the trump tower. You know, with all the interest we see Iran in Portland now and everything that's going on. Are they going to reduce security around Trump Tower? And is that a wise thing to do? Do you think, sir? Well, I'm sure there'll be some adjustments, but no way can be eliminated. Uh, you know, when I was in Washington, I was under Secretary Treasury and Secret Service reported to me in the Clinton administration so I would see some of the threats against the President Clinton. And let me tell you, there's a lot of unhinged people out there. Something was at that time, and now it's only been a compound is with course, with social media and all the avenues that exists now. So, uh, there are threats against certainly against the former president Trump but also against his property Now last night, I know that it was a visual demonstration at Trump Tower. This is after he's out of office. Just an indication that you know the relationship between former President Trump and that building is not going to go away. And they're going to continue to have demonstrations is a lobby of that building is open. In other words, the public can go in there at any time. So yeah, I mean it Z, the world in which we live, and I don't think Would be eliminated. Maybe you know to look at the street. 56 Street has been blocked. 50 century was there's a westbound street. You know you can into that street between six. Madison. Perhaps that will be open up, But police and security going to be their secret Service knows the most about what's this for? It's our against the you know the individual and his property. So they will be a major player in making a decision as to what the police Department ultimately does for security there, Commissioner Kelly What do we do in New York and I, we all feel for the NYPD because we feel like and and again. It's easy to play Man. DiBlasio easy to blame Governor Cuomo but Is there something something's got to be done with the spiking that we see a murder rates the crime rate in beautiful New York. It was always what How do you go in politically politically Because you've got to go against political forces that really, I don't think understand Law enforcement. Certainly the way you do, sir. No, Listen, there's no easy answer. And you could see now was the mayoral candidates. Whatever. There are 12 now and counting. I think it was gonna continue to go up. No, no, no. We're talking about any sort of realistic anti crime in program. They use words like re Imagine we're going to re imagine policing. What the hell does that mean? Nobody knows what that means. No people want to be saved. People want to be protected. So until we see some Common sense unworkable, Uh, programs that's going to address it. You know, the whole notion of violence, interrupters and all of that stuff. It hasn't worked anywhere. It's been around for 30 more of a 30. Some ideas. It hasn't worked. So all of these things and alternative completely. You got it back. Get back to basics. Now. How do we do that? With great difficulty? Cops, You know they don't want to jeopardize here. Their jobs. Anyone has jeopardized the family's well being by taking action, so they're sort of on their back foot. One of the things, of course that was effective. And has been so you know, integrated now is stop question and frisk tactic. It's a tool in the toolbox. You know, there was nothing. Nothing wrong with it, Uh, It is validated by Supreme Court decision. It's a zoo statutes of allow for, but it's not being done or virtually been eliminated..

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"ray kelly" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

Bloomberg Radio New York

01:49 min | 2 years ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

"From Missouri. And now we are having the Bidens come down the stairs. Just just listen a little bit to what was happening up on the stage. Fuck down onto the stage and greet people on. I must say both sides of the aisle but we're seeing here is the senator's assembles wells, former presidents and members of the family. As I say all socially distance. There's a fair amount of space separating all of them and everyone. Everyone has a mascot. Once again. What you're hearing is the Marine band playing, and now we see the president elect facing the vice president as the vice was like comma, Harris applauds the president elect. And what we will hear. Next is Amy Klobuchar, the senator from Minnesota. As I say she's one of the members of the committee, the Joint Congressional Committee who has put together these festivities. And rather remarkable circumstances, giving the pandemic giving the social distancing that needs and also given the security's concerns that we just talked about with Ray Kelly, former commissioner of the New York Police Department, they're gathered there on the west side of the Capitol. And here now is Senator Amy Klobuchar. Mr President elect Madam Vice President elect members of Congress and the judicial branch, former presidents and first ladies. Vice president's leaders from abroad and a whole bunch of Biden's America..

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"ray kelly" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

77WABC Radio

07:07 min | 2 years ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

"There's a lot of unanswered questions, but it certainly looks that they were. They were caught unprepared, and this is the result of horrific Well, we're now hearing many of the federal agency, the FBI and others claiming Oh, we had intel. We had Intel. But I think the question is, uh, great. Kelly if they had the intel like they had before the attack of 9 11. What did they do with the Intel today? Disperse it that they share what it one of the normal means that the federal government is supposed to use to share Intel when they see a serious problem that may affect public safety in the locale. I don't know if it was identified as a real serious problem because there was no specificity to it, I'm told, but what they do is they said that out through a channel, for instance, in Washington, another big cities is a joint terrorism task force. And you may have as many as 2030 agencies associated with the tails for this sort of send it out on the shotgun fashion. Uh, what does this contain? I don't know. It's far the specifics concern who received it? What was their reaction to it and wasn't seen as being in serious is it turns out to be I don't know. We don't know the answer. That's why you need You need an in depth examination of this by commission. I'm sure Congress will will do because they're certainly concerned about their own safety, so they will put something together. I certainly hope it's not Politicized, but they'll put a commission together that will ask a lot of these questions, but clearly in a court short and, uh, I think we all would like to know what Now, I think previously and previous years we would often time see more law enforcement than was necessary to deal with demonstrations. Just in case better safe than sorry. And often times they were the men and women. They were like a block away. Two blocks away. They win Busses of vans of cars, and they would only respond if things got out of control. None of that happened at the Capitol. What we saw was the few that were there. Should they have had a backup plan? Because their argument is well, we didn't want to have a show of force. That seems to be this sort of cause celebre. We don't want to show too many cops. We don't want them to be in body armor with bats and hats. And, uh, you know all kinds of what some people perceive of as weapons of war. But should they at least be sort of maybe a block or two away so that if the problem does emerge, they can quickly respond. Of course, you have groups in reserve already to respond. This the you know, because I control and what you do is you coordinate You work with other agencies. You do you're planning With other agencies beforehand on necessary You co mingle. The forces in Washington is the Metropolitan Police Department. There's the park Police. Is a secret service uniformed please thousands of police offices in Washington. Besides the capital puts which numbers about 2300. The significant force there that could have been mobilized and could have been used to prevent this type of incursion, prevent them from getting on the property. What? What they need. Now The very least, is the White House type sense. Around the capital. As it stands now, you could just walk up to the capital. You no longer have that so they needed a sensible, uh, fence or some sort of barrier that prevents People from just walking onto the property. And perhaps they needed task force of all the agencies I mentioned, uh, to get together and talk about protecting all of public buildings in in Washington. It looks like there was a lack of coordination. It was until the You know, the riot really got going that they were able to have other police department's response. You know, I don't know if they were put on alert before this or or what? It looks like a real hodgepodge that needs to be thoroughly eggs. And now, Ray Kelly, a lot of people don't remember out of the many things that you served our country and our city at you're the customs commissioner in the Term, a Bill Clinton Law Enforcement agency did did those agencies share information with a generous in sharing informational would like this like squirrels, sort of gathering nuts and like you really had to go out of your way to get it from him? I think there was some of that in the past. But I think 9 11 changed all of that. No agency wants to be caught holding the bag now, so everybody is talking to everybody else those days. Argonne know if some of that's happening, it's not significant, in my view. So, uh, now the information that is gathered is out, but a lot of times it's you know. It's not specific. It's very general in nature, and it's a little bit of C y a. A. We have this will put it out. And that was your problem. But again. Specificity is always the, uh, the thing that you want, and I'm usually don't see too much of that coming down the pike. Alright, Final question. I don't know if you got a chance to look at the video over the weekend 200 members of antifa, fully clad black body armor, obviously black face masks, but they always wore Dallas before the pandemic black helmets. Black batons, black shields. They looked like they were going into the gladiator pit. Marching down right to times Square screaming, whose streets our streets, the police on their bicycles on both sides. Is that legal what they did to have those kinds of weapons shields batons. Um, hats and bats that normally would have been considered previously weapons. Big. Technically, it probably is legal, but that's a zoo where we are. Let's let's assume for a moment that issue of minor violation. What district attorney in New York City In this day and age is going to prosecute that none of them I mean, it's a sad state of affairs. In terms of what was this district attorneys have capitulated to, but minor crimes quality of life violations. Forget about no place to go. With that. So you know the police department's hands are tied. Uh, if they were attempting to stop those people given some of this, it probably would've been a fight..

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"ray kelly" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

77WABC Radio

06:19 min | 2 years ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

"Founder of the Guardian Angels group dedicated to fight crime on the streets of New York and on the air right now, Curtis we want on 77 W A B C care the lead story today. Right at the top of the news. The New York attorney general Tish James, is suing the NYPD over what she claims his excessive force at the Black lives matter. Protests over the summer. Nobel, yet person a comment on that and former New York City police commissioner and CEO of Guardian Group Ray Kelly. Thanks for joining us, right? Curtis. Always good to be with you. Thank you. Now I detect anger in your voice, because not only is she suing, not only does she want a federal monitor, but she's saying this should deal with the long pattern. System of abuse is performed by the NYPD against the community, and I think she's basically referring to the time you were police Commissioner Bratton. She might as well take it back to when Teddy Roosevelt Was the original police commissioner. Well, listen, there's a lot he just talk about, but this is an outrageous auto. We had 400 talks injured. Join the The George Floyd demonstrations. We had pictures of cops being hit in the head with fire extinguishes we had one were lieutenant was struck with the brick behind his back. Uh, we have firebombed the radio cars, these people who should have cause of action here. This ludicrous charge that somehow their first Amendment rights were violated. Only have to do is look at the video look at look at the newscast they took over a city hall park. For a month it took over bridges they took over Washington Square Park. Every time they had a march is almost invariably broken Windows smashed windows. So the whole notion that the First Amendment was exercise, probably, but Demonstrated is it's just insane, but that's where we are these days. The police of the blame for everything. Forget about what it is. There's a problem. It's just what we need is another monitor. So I hope this is seen is just another political ploy. But these days in New York, I don't know You don't know what the outcome will be with a lawsuit like this with people like this. Now you were the longest serving police commissioner in New York City, Ray Kelly, if imposed upon the NYPD, What does a federal monitor do? Because I think we've had this once before Correct. No, we didn't have it in. You could have a little more motive for stuff. Question interest now, but other cities have had federal monitors. What it does is basically grinds. Police departments toehold. They've facto do nothing or do very little. The sword in lots of different cities Philadelphia of the city. This was done under the Obama administration under the Trump administration. This was Just a lonely They didn't do that. But the monitoring concept service in the Obama administration and again, the results are virtually shut down on the part of the police departments that have been affected by it. Now she used the term charging the cops with kettle ng. Could you explain that because I think the average citizen has no idea what she's talking about as a tactic that the police will sometimes use NYPD at a demonstration. Yeah, I don't know where that term came from. But it's not a police department terms that the police have all the jargon. But I think what they mean is the push people into a confined space and then you're able to arrest them. Uh, that's my best interpretation of it. I don't also a complain about cops using bicycles as a weapon, but I think they use it as a barricade. And I think it's perfectly legitimate, then. Cities throughout the throughout the country, So some of this stems from the deal I report That was done on the department's conduct. Post George Floyd, and I think that was a totally political document disappears to be, uh, an offshoot of that politics as a zoo usual but take any right minded person would say that those demonstrators certainly Had ample opportunity to exercise that if First Amendment rights and look into that, you know a little Chris proposal, it's interesting. Former Police Commissioner Ray Kelly that She's talking about what the cops in New York had The times, pepper spray bicycles. And yet we saw in the in the takeover of the House and the Senate the other day at the Capitol. But now there are cries from members of the House of Representatives to ask. Where were you? Where were the police ship? A thons Pepper spray. Where were the bicycles? Where were the barricades? It seems like they wanted everything in Washington, D C during that siege for their police. Notice James's claiming the police should not have when there's a demonstration. It's mind blowing. Yeah, You're absolutely right. But there's still a very good question is where were they in Washington. They looked like they were unprepared. They were ill equipped. So there's a lot of a lot of questions to be answered there. Uh, you know, they are the most political police force. Probably in the world because they report the 535 elected congressmen and senators. So I'd like to know what what happened there myself. Currently the chief who resigned in indicates that the sergeant at arms who they nominally report to told them Torto sort of take a like a light approach to it in just saying also that Muriel Bowser, mayor of Washington Civic Education. To the Justice Department on the Monday before the riots and see them to take a light touch. You know why? Why was she involved?.

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"ray kelly" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

77WABC Radio

02:24 min | 2 years ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

"Down from a real tough guy, A guy who wore his badge honorably for years. Former police Commissioner Ray Kelly up next on the courteously will show Talk radio for New York and all of America. 1071. W L I R FM Hampton Bays and a nationwide manhunt on the Brady Fox News. Arrests are being made around the country after last week's assault on the U. S. Capitol is tens of thousands of tips pour in about images from the breach. FBI officials just confirming that a man who was carrying a Confederate flag at the Capitol turned himself in the U. S marshals in Wilmington, Delaware, today. The investigation ongoing along with the heightened security measures for next week's inauguration, Capitol Hill Police are so on edge I'm told after last week's attack, they're requesting more and more National Guard authorization so far is up to 20,000 more than twice what was mobilized for the Obama inauguration when threats were also Extremely high One website that the feds are monitoring has 1.7 million followers and is calling for upwards of 100,000 people to disrupt the inauguration. Fox Jennifer Griffin in D. C multiple states answering the call to send more National Guard troops. A new report from the Justice Department's inspector general points a finger of the outgoing administration. Accusing DOJ leadership of failing to prepare to implement the zero tolerance border policy that led to family separations boxes. Rachel Sutherland has more live Lisa. The watchdog report says Justice Department officials were not ready for the fall out of the 2018 policy and that they knew it would result in Children separated from their parents. The report also conclude the leaders had not informed local prosecutors Children would be separated. They failed to understand there would be separated longer than a few hours and when that was discovered, pressed on more than 3000 separations occurred in some Children have never been reunited with their families. Lisa. Thanks Rachel, the Justice Department just announcing an indictment on terror charges for 14, leaders of the Criminal gang. And as 13 America.

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"ray kelly" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

77WABC Radio

06:03 min | 2 years ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

"Talk station with the King of New York Hurtis. We watch somebody seven W A. B. C. Right back to it. That's what we do here on the new courteously would show because remember My co host is all of you, the many listeners and those 99.9% of you. Who would never call a talk radio show. And now you can be heard. You are maybe have limited use of your social networking. You may have decided it. Forget your Twitter account your Facebook account. Your YouTube account. WhatsApp the whole nine yards, Instagram and you may have said they took Paula from me. I just feel I'm adrift. No, no, you go old school, old school, Always Woz. You would call up talk radio programs and you could be heard. And then what happened over time, The talk radio format evolved. And the host of the hostess decided they want to pontificate. They want to tell you everything you already know. And they go on and on and they never get to call it. How many times have you heard? Ah, host or hostess? Give out the number. Give out the number and then they never go to the college. Well, we're gonna be a lot different number is 1 808 48 W A B C That's 1 808 489222, but I am fuming. Here we have in the state of New York, a state that was out of control all summer long and not just in New York City. Because of the demonstrations by black lives matter that led to riots and looting by black lives matter and antifa? No, not just here in New York City had happened in Albany. It happened in Rochester. It happened in Buffalo. It happened in Syracuse. It happened in some other smaller communities. But what happened today is an absolute Shanda OD scrapped CIA. The attorney general of the state of New York to see James, who spends her entire day morning noon and I looking this suit trumps whatever it is where they have any kind of sign. It's going on. Has decided to sue the NYPD. Me talking to Ray Kelly. Later, former police The police director here in New York. I mean, he's got to be fuming like I am and she's suing them because she's saying, by the way, never having once been in the middle of the demonstrations, although probably very sympathetic to antifa and bike lives matter. No experience in the streets, she saying that they were violating the civil rights. Black lives matter and antifa because you had batons, pepper spray and bicycles and they were cattle ng. You know, I can't wing it. Peddling is containment. Means he had a large phalanx of cops and they moved to confine a group of demonstrators in a small area so they'll stop committing violence. You know what happened over this this weekend? Tish James, come in on the fact that Antifa came with body armor on full body armor, helmets, shields batons. They walked right through Times Square. And she's more concerned that the cops protecting us from them were on bicycles on both sides. That's a violation of antifreeze, civil rights, But Antifa has a right to put on full body armor. Shields batons, helmets on Implements of war and talk about whose streets our streets Blankety playing playing playing plan. Condom is 1 808 48 w A. B C. That's 1 808 4892229 juxtaposition that Versus what everyone is saying about what happened in the nation's capital. When they stormed the hill. And it was an attempt to take over the house in the Senate. Claiming there wasn't enough security. They're claiming there wasn't security with batons with shields with body armor with helmets on having you heard the arguments. From the very same people who accused the NYPD and other municipal law enforcement agencies of using Gestapo like tactics. Military tactics Now they're claiming that the Capitol police should have had full body armor should have had helmets should've had shields should have had batons should have had Maura of the mace and the pepper spray. What would you have taken by schools? Peewee Herman bicycles to me. Bicycles. Come on. You consider that a threat to your civil rights when a cop is on a bicycle? Come on, 1 808 48 W A. B. C. Let's go right to those calls 1 808 489222. Uh, Scott me so much. Oh, You heard Espaillat Congressman, Dominican representative South Bronx, Washington Heights in wood. That area Manhattan. Unfortunately, he's been diagnosed a zoo being positive with Corona virus, but oh, yesterday he was the craziest of all. When he came to giving each Congress person an opportunity. I think they gave me each a minute to talk about how Donald Trump was the anti correction. I mean, basically, let's face it. That's where they were saying, You know, the anti Christ the destroyer of everything decent in the world. Listen to especially. Yeah. He summons and dispatches map to kidnap and hurt many of us he is unfit to hold office. He summons the dispatches mop to assassinate vice president Pence to assassinate Speaker Pelosi. He is fit. The whole office is summer's indiscretion of mob that way. The races Confederate flags. An assault of this capital resulted in the death of five Americans, including two Capitol police officers. He is our.

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"ray kelly" Discussed on 710 WOR

710 WOR

04:42 min | 2 years ago

"ray kelly" Discussed on 710 WOR

"Lot of their members are gonna be somewhat cautious system aggressive and agenda's gonna have to do. I'll do most of what Biden wants, but not all of what it wants. Hey, Ed Rollins. You've been in the White house and a lot of different administrations. If Biden were to be president, How does that work? Is he based basically a hands off. God, He just lets everybody else do everything. You know, I don't want his energy level is my sense is he's got a very experienced team experienced the system. Most of them were in the Obama administration. Uh, they pretty much you know, it's not to know. Learn on the job. They know what they want to do. I don't know what their agenda is obviously facing the two crisis is they face the virus. It's certainly still happen across the country and the economic crisis, so they've got to find some resolved both of those issues. I think they're gonna need bipartisan support. He keeps talking about bipartisanship. We'll see whether that's for real. If he has bipartisanship, he may get some of what he wants. If he wants to fight the Republicans, he's gonna lose. I think so. It was on support because they'd be concerned about some of these conservative districts. The country is split. Uh, you know, the president. Obviously 40,000 votes shift in these couple states. The president would be in office for second term. So you know, the reality is you got to be someone carefully gonna move the agenda forward to convince the country that you have the right ideas. But it's not sound like you got a big mandate and you're gonna march march forward with a whole new agenda radical agenda, So I think I think he's got a got a deal. He's gonna He's gonna be a deal maker. That's what he's always done in the past. Different Congress is about to deal with, but I think that's what crimes you, Ed Rollins. No one knows Washington better than you. Would you agree? The swamp, the Democrats, even the Republicans, all of them. Think if Donald Trump just went away, they'd be happy. They could go back to the old model business as usual. Do things the way they want. Isn't that what deep down what they really want? Oh, sure, sure. I mean, he was He was a nation of change. He didn't. He didn't do it their way. A lot of the successes that he had was because he didn't do it their way. But I think at this point in time I'll be very happy for me to go somewhere now depends on what kind of role he wants to play himself. He's still had 17 plus million voters go form Does he want to be a viable candidate and the future? Does he want to basically be a constructive force for change that you want to fight for his own agenda? I don't think anybody at this point knows what that is all about, So, but I think no one's going on about using the present squad of office and they go away. I don't know what he's gonna go away. You're not cooking career, Bill Clinton and Obama seems to be better. Hey, we're coming back. They're coming back. You know they they went away for a while. So, uh, I think the key thing is this. You know, he's kind of a big adjustment. Uh, sudden staff all the resources you had. It changes pretty dramatically and it's uh You know, the powers of the president has her enormous, and when you've had it like he's headed for the last four years, it's coming. It's gonna be real adjustment. Do you want to basically go fight for your agenda, which I think he should do? You have a lot of support. He wants to go fight for other things. Uh, you know, he'll have a big big megaphone. But whether or not it's gonna be Israel is because he hopes I don't know. Yeah, we're running out of time. But you're great it seeing which way the wind is blowing. We got a mayoral race in New York City in November. What's gonna happen? We're going to get another crazy progressive or people wake up and finally voting. Somebody that'll fix New York. We had most unpopular mayor in history in the city on my senses, because any alternative to him on his policies in a real chance of winning the cast of characters is running so far is not defined. There's no real front runner, so I think you could. You know if it's gonna be stranger, someone like that. That argue that are gonna be different than Because you're saying I'm gonna be I'm gonna be the third term for the philosophy was like to be successful. Uh, But if you got a Ray Kelly type of common sense guy who could fix the crime? We could something like that one. Great Kelly could have won. I think four years ago on this very popular a lot of our kind of, you know, I think the voters already discussed in the city both towards governor and towards the mayor. So good candidate, Uh, monastery Republican candidate but a good Democrat Conservative. Probably be very credible. All right, well, eight, sir, We're out of time, but great America pac dot com You still running that and people you still need people keep trying to protect the agenda. That's very, very important. So very involved racist tomorrow so Yeah, and, uh, congressional races. Another congressional race coming up in two years. So great American important? Yeah. Great America pac dot com. Oh, Ed Rollins. Great talking..

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Raptors President Masai Ujiri Accused of Pushing, Hitting Deputy at NBA Finals

John Batchelor

00:33 sec | 3 years ago

Raptors President Masai Ujiri Accused of Pushing, Hitting Deputy at NBA Finals

"Thirty say they're pushing for battery charges against messiah Jiri after the raptors executive allegedly pushed and hit a sheriff's deputy as he tried to get on the court after Toronto's, game six win against the Golden State Warriors. Police say Jerry was denied access to the court because he did not have the proper credentials. Alameda, County sheriff's spokesman sergeant Ray Kelly said Jerry tried to push his way past deputy and after the deputy pushed him back. He's struck the deputy in the face Jiri. Eventually did make it onto the court after bystanders intervened. The team said they are also looking into the

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Raptors president under investigation for allegedly shoving deputy

The Dan Le Batard Show

01:40 min | 3 years ago

Raptors president under investigation for allegedly shoving deputy

"Ryder. The Alameda County sheriff's office confirmed. It's investigating the raptors president of basketball operations beside you Jerry on suspicion of busy meter battery on a police officer stomach from an incident after the teams title. Lynching win sheriff's office spokesman surgeon Ray Kelly said you Jerry, shoved a deputy and ended up striking the deputy face while trying to reach the court after the game with more ESPN's Bryant win wars and sportscenter with David Lloyd, this is an unfortunate development. Masai watched the end of the game from the tunnel outside the raptors locker room on television once the game was over. He came down the tunnel and wanted to go on the court to celebrate with his team. But because it was a trophy presentation situation and because it was the visiting team winning. There was new security procedures in place and new credentials required. Now, this the standard procedure in the NBA beside did not have that credential in speaking to the sheriff's department this morning. They have said that they were asked by the NBA and arena officials to strictly enforce credential policy. The officer there who was part of an increased security presence around the court did not know who he was. And really the issue is the second contact the Cy and the office. Make contact with the officer and then made a second contact with the officer where according to the sheriff's sergeant made contact with deputies face. So he is under investigation and it's unfortunate situation. I've reached the NBA and the rafters. Both of them are do not have a comment at this time and they were doing if further investigation. So disappointing situation there, right before one of the big moments

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Raptors president under investigation for allegedly shoving deputy

Chip Franklin

00:57 sec | 3 years ago

Raptors president under investigation for allegedly shoving deputy

"Investigators are reviewing video footage to see if charges should be filed against the Toronto. Raptors president? Correspondent John Stolnis reports the official is facing possible charges after struggling to get on the court at oracle arena last night. There's new champion. Attuned Toronto Canada. NBA chance. Thirty say they're pushing for battery charges against messiah Jiri after the raptors executive allegedly pushed and hit a sheriff's deputy as he tried to get on the court after Toronto's, game six win against the Golden State Warriors. Police say Jerry was denied access to the court because he did not have the proper credentials. Alameda, County sheriff's spokesman sergeant Ray Kelly said Jerry tried to push his way past deputy. And after the deputy pushed him back he struck the deputy in the face Jiri. Eventually did make it onto the court after bystanders intervened. The team said they are also looking into the

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Today's top celebrity birthdays list (April 25, 2018)

WLOB's Morning News with Ray Richardson

02:48 min | 5 years ago

Today's top celebrity birthdays list (April 25, 2018)

"Dotcom debbie davis david jones state representative rich sieber and j j jeffrey with celebrity birthdays and our first one is in i believe she was on american idol ray kelly clarkson we're talking about her first american rich kelly clarkson kelly clarkson gotta be she was on there like fifteen years ago she was the first one the first one i'd say thirty four thirty six thirty seven but one bound for you a you got it three six thirty six kelly clarkson and ray one of your favorite people of all time babs streisand celebrates her birthday today about a rich got to be seventy five seventy seven i think it's a good guess i'm going seventy five as well seventysix pulled one dollar for the dempster nice clothes roll right around the book let's hear it this guy i don't know if it's a hero she jordan is the is the person's name jordan fisher tv actor and do we know who he is or she is or okay well let's take a while guests and moving fast forty one twenty six thirty thirty five okay good he's twenty four or she is twenty four chipper jones baseball player i believe for the braves hall of fame baseball hall of fame right fifty forty nine let's see probably forty three forty five almost forty six forty six chipper jones let's hear it okay and i believe this lady has a famous brother well she's as famous as he is shirley maclaine and i think her brother is warren beatty okay hey shirley maclaine up there barbara streisand was seventyfive she's got to be eighty five i'd say seventy seven i go with rich eighty five eighty four put one down for damn again let's go wow wow eighty four years old one of the hallmark christmas movies oh yes that's right she was all right now i need the name rich the years eighteen eighty five american sharp shooter is hired by a guy to be part of the buffalo bills wild west what's the name of that sharp shooter that would be any oakley at danny o'kelly i concur i agree if you serve annie oakley you got it you nailed.

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Brendan discussed on WTF with Marc Maron Podcast - Episode 858 - Lizzy Goodman / Dana Gould

WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

00:35 sec | 5 years ago

Brendan discussed on WTF with Marc Maron Podcast - Episode 858 - Lizzy Goodman / Dana Gould

"Y you know and i are you going to have your on tv show i'm going to be rich no not anymore still have to go out you ask me in minneapolis and do a weekend uh but on that but i am on executives over tv show yeah i know is no actually no but you should plug your the mc's comedy special goes he didn't get one earlier all you'll have a commie i have many of them you of another what what i found what must have you feel about this moment where like i did the comedy stars would netflixing was good i was glad that i got the opportunity sure yeah but then you hear about like you know sign fokker's rock and louis this is like the ah they just gave jerry seinfeld half a billion dollars thank god because we need who was learning it's not i'm not even jealous but it's sort of like give me like a maybe maybe like five percent yeah yeah i'm not complaining but if you're throwing money away yeah exactly i'll take a little no i was a you know i they were it was one of those things where i was going to tapered and then i was gonna do it with the company that i did my last russia with and then there were the dates were confused and then there were like well we can only do it on this date and i was getting ready to go into production on season two of the show and i you know you can feel the material right inning and reaching pugh tressens sure and you feel like dying yeah exactly and i was i was looking at some nick i was looking at a new products that list as they go i really wanted to get it down ago and i have a really great agent at william morris them silvio lund who's really a terrific guy and he goes let's just do novel and he called up this record company in damn nailed it and and get it in and i do find the audio lives longer than the video so people listened comedy on the radio they listen to comedy on their phone i it's rare that they will sit down and watch a special again that's true that's true i l walsh asif yeah yeah exactly but all listen to especially again all this shit you always in the comedy records i've heard before i listen to because because now uh you know you have that done than you're getting ready to go back on the road and yet you've got to frantically get new shit guinness shit yeah i mean i i'm not i don't believe it has to be one hundred percent new but it should be you really not believe that or you just tell you i really i know i really do but uh i'm i'm much lower than the percentage that it should be i think people want to hear one or two hundred families that you know like i i dunno i got the idaho 'cause i think you and are similar in that in that whoever's judging that whoever saying i this year from the record whoever saying that usually we make them up and you out now there are no there are a couple of those is ideal hit that twenty percent of the suv his new wave that why do we listen to that guy because he's the guy that hates us as much as we do he sees this is already just the way we are with a little disappointed with this was never the almost you'll has got it but not quite right but i i you know i probably saw george karlin i don't know a dozen times my life and i would always love it when there was a oh well he's going to do baseball and football great disease and you go this is great listen to this i sure i i listen i like hearing beats like he because this museum it is a form of music digitally form of music when you know like i hear who i can was due over and over again if it comes up in 'cause i got the shuffle gone on ma if schimmel comes up and mike because like the ear was such a master of this very specific type of timing kind of like morose jewish he you know who it's it's the disease descended joan roma jackie veronica yep that good good poll well he told me although yeah and you know who else was heavily influenced by jackie vernon let me guess who stephen wright sure that makes a lot of ads yeah i love jackie vern yeah jackie o'brien was amazing scr i saw he was the guy i saw my parents took museum when i was like eleven oh my god where that's what change to me because i saw him on tv do the slide show and then he came to albuquerque and i saw it in the paper at out in albuquerque was a lounge in the hilton hotel phantom my parents took me that's fist of it and that was what i was like that's when i knew it whenever you but what if he opened bush and soon turkomans should they would have been fine but what we were close enough just to see like you know he's a hold and he's like you saw all of it is in this and that it was not afraid i was like this is still good i have this conversation with somebody is really really interesting is talking about how much i love rickles yeah and i was talking to a a younger com we'll they're all younger and owes quoting some rousseau stuff and this goes help us us laura his own because he so unworkable because it has nothing to do with that yes all music i love the ud in the rhythm of the music and i remember seeing him sometimes he said things that didn't even make sense but because no i will give you a beautiful example i was with your friend and mine rob cohen at the desert in and they had just had a giant renovation of the desert in and it was sweltering in the show room when he goes out a forty milliondollar renovation they get a great airconditioning system two facts on the roof of the peace looseleaf paper glenn doesn't mean a gut dim thing he could have said tortoises zeroed onesyllable i tell you and could as a bear as you know i'm not laughing because i am straight and therefore i'm exerting my heterosexual privilege via in a derogatory way no eases thought of that of that part of that of that and that's what i have yet but the weird thing is we give you isn't something like schimmel who is usually the victim of his own joke yes in his life had the life of fucking job yeah and then the political whatever's politically incorrect about it itself offering a software threat and then i don't like he is the victim of every jew every joke has a victim and symbols act it was him yet in something somehow that can elevate ivan i agree i agree yeah i don't know if i have these discussions but like i for some reason i'm just able the separate i i don't know that you know revisionism is necessary just because times change in terms of what you you you feel personally attached to her what you like i don't i don't odds visa will difficult but but i can says it already owned for me i can still you know i don't do we delete all that stuff do we delete are emotional connection to right i i don't see how that's possible tackle and it's like when we damn my have hitler's paintings i have to separate you have that book on i have the coffee table excuse called raspberry lauda angles lot of hard angles not a lot of people but a lot of beautiful buildings oh i used to joke about that it's like well you know hitler was vegetarian but but yeah there's an i think i also in a lot of it is just being the soldier nostalgia for being too beating a kid a like watching rickles on the dean martin roast and every but it's a totally different school of show business than new and i grew up with golfway told me the story that when he worked with reckles rickles would would just roast him all day uh and then afterwards a poolside now you set a small lead money the eu is a very carrying well that lowvolume that's where my grandmother said she go see him in vegas and he has yet on everybody but he too she's she put it like this he apologizes very nicely renault but the only thing with bob did he couldn't understand is that that he wore jeans onstage right easily bob you can't you have to get the dress nice addressed and that's the general that's the thing that broke for that generation like these kids they they would do about those things that was karlin the kid he's talking gripe but what i'm saying is in that era in for us it's i think it's like we understand that he's seeking safe haggar he gets it whatever and it doesn't have any leasehold me we gotta shoulder that and if it's like a you can attack me for y'all still respecting somebody who is not of david his original like and that's in and that's and that's a that's a valid point that you do have to update in and he didn't he didn't need he i was watching him i went down it was yuri lewis rabbit telling when he died oh yeah and i was watching the jerry lewis rose from 1968 rickles was on it with the two things that but that it will rise rose that's not even the right the idea the one the first who the killer who's just like jerry i say this from the bottom of my heart jerry you're a jew his justly all right yeah but the other almost didn't he goes you know jerry's a clown and there are a lot of grey clowns emmett kelly that's about i will not give up the other baru hui was rose the is when the martin ones and j jim stewart was on the day is and he goes a jimmy i spoke to the family you're doing fine hosts one there was one where he was on it was his last appearance he was his last carson appearance because johnny was retiring on and then he may johnny lab zohar johnny got into a coughing fit careful john every time you cough lentils at home highfiving the life little good will and i love one and it's a real shit have you seen that one where they built him a club filled with just celebrities the martin there's a dean martin rose who was might have been the d martin show where they wanted to recreate alive rickles show i have that 'cause i signed up for the guide them the other demar the i never saw coming i had no idea there were so many but there was one that came it might have been the d martin show but they set up a club they mean on a sound stage and had people like pat boone in the audience all the celebrities kartal malta bar like he was probably nineteen seventy the early 70s mid70s yeah and and rickles just went up and did his club in insulted ever yeah it was great and as you sweating mid70s when the american flag had wide lapels warren ugly i go it's an interesting question though about because i had this moment where you know being a comic as long as we have you know you and i are old guys already yeah and and by the way just two i am fully aware before anybody jumps down my throat about don rickles and whatever i know i'm i'm i'm done i'm in i'm with this is not what is contemporary this is my view of it pete townsend was talking about the john entwistle used a bitch about wrap that he didn't get it yeah and he said it's not our job to get it it's our job to get out of the way and and i am aware of that yeah i get it i get it yeah well no i mean i you know i can it's becomes difficult with depending on what the transgression is here to stay supportive you'll have to be supporters somebody you can condemn somebody and you can you think somebody's awful but still say that second record though that sure you know and then you somebody said a really smart the genome our solar arguello should young new comic really really funny really funny and really martin somebody was bashing some on woke person new than apologize for it and she said you know you have to let people make their mistakes and grow in public he kinda led have to you have to let people grow catches white dot terrorise them into some sort of cultural siberia yeah the you know the my last special the one before this one um i had the whole thing at the end of boat the our word uh and how it's now relegated wizards see word and i tried to do on those bits ya ya and i wouldn't in i did i mean the bit was a boat the strictly the nomenclature of equating that word with the n word in this year oh it was actually addressing the that that whole thing it wasn't about like i don't use it that way no because then i did use it uh you know i know is that i would never do this and then i did i cheated all over the place and i you know i i said it and i said the n word in the sewer day and i say them now relish at home time mutter myself but whatever i would i would nothing happened but i wouldn't have done i wouldn't do it today i got i did a bit about it about defending you know the use of it in you know in a sense of like in a ended this style gic way um y yo how you know what i mean i grew up with that yeah right but then i guy the guy that igf someone i think it was an email the just said we you know i'm the parent and in and that was a you know i like i had a couple of swipes but in eventually i got a handle on it i i did it and then i met john mcginley lose of very on the forefront of of of all those issues and it becomes real via an and it's not about first amendment that's about though these people have feelings and their young their lives and you're okay i guess that's the thing hey how attached are you two that really need it have you read them of using that word it's not he's no one's censoring anybody yeah it's like you're hurting people's feelings and it's already hard for them yeah exactly brilliant yes i guess they have a rough enough time any and you can and that is truly you can say that will riggles talking about fragile new have enough to have enough they have enough trouble i my my feelings about that are like you say whatever you want the shoulder the uganda water take the take the burn yeah tell uber then handle it what the what's this new were the new season standard against evil what's it did you finish it's all done joey finished it premiers november first on ifc house a different uh it takes the story it takes us roy for the premise of the story is the whole idea of the shows was quite simple i love horror movies are my football so i just thought what if i did a horror movie but put a character in the middle of it that didn't belong here and it was basically what if my dad was an harm of has he wouldn't give it doesn't know just know does he does no he doesn't give fuck right and and we used to make that joke if you remember the indicating kong he's on the building in the planes are flying area my brothers and i used to joke did of our dad was in one of those planes that he would fly out of formation check the scoring the baseball game comeback shoot a little bit more go back and i just thought it would be interesting if like what if instead of buffy the vampire slayer it was just an old irish guy that didn't give a shit and and that was the the premise and i didn't i my mother is still alive but his wife who would have been my mother dies before the show starts and because i needed them to have a giant vulnerability or is just hassle oca them what john mcginley did with that was created this amazingly nuanced character is a good actor huh israel has been around for a long time ago he's not fuck in a row it doesn't seem age much either doesn't know he's he's good lives at the gym i mean is this arms are and i say this knowing he's listening to it his arms are terrifying um uh no easing these in crazy like an old irish boxer from like a poster for the he's like hundreds who was in the issue williams was like five over visas and wall street is a platoon he was in any given sunday but he's built like an old irish bar and how he's all upper body and but he created the he gave this character so much more than than i had give it it on the page and and i have to also give jet at foreign ego amazing kudos for the way she balances him the ballast that she and as such a strong actress the because john is done so much of this work that for the second season i had to right up to him so i developed a whole arc of a story line where there is a time travel element where he's going to try to go back and save his wife's life oh wow and as as always happens makes things much worse oh good and that's the arc this as the art the season and what's the name of the record that see the digital this is what did them i call it a record 'cause i don't know what else to call it how it looks it in a my doubt because my downloads sounds vaguely filthy ah mister funny men and this is what the kids on her the account how many you've done how many record seventy special uh i have the worst i proudly have the worst album titles fun houses fine yeah but it's an they keep up album and his version is albums much better uh let me put my thoughts in you i know what's wrong which was okay this is mr funding in screwed what i mean the bigger problem is really the art work generally yes like looking at what you can almost any comedy record in you know somebody who's like move was i think and yeah homeless every comedy record bullets every comedian gets to be a rockstar for that that one day we you get to look figure your album cover via i did all right like you know in retrospect i don't have any stupid once i ask you know the last don't try to be funny on your color exactly don't try to be funny on your cover that's it that's it iin the war here quad split headshot via the worst people from boston we both novaya the what were their different panels viking different hats and i can't say it on the air but i'll tell you what were probably sure have on those i remember seeing it becomes clear i like how there were different has i know they can play different jobs it would be a fireman and a chef who was a doubt i will good well it's good talk in the arabian sea all dana cooled the great dana gould so lizzy goodman who i'm going to be talking to next in just a second um she was very good friends remarks pits the lay mark spitz they david years ago and mark spitz was a a great writer in his own right of music writer and wrote a greg memoir and he was on the show and because he passed not too long ago that you can still listen to episode in the in the free feed if you'd like it was a great episode very personal very engaged and we missile marqui we miss him you know i think i'm a good cook when i make food at home but there's nothing worse than not having the right amount of an ingredient or 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brainer for thirty bucks off your first week of hellofresh visit hellofresh dot com and enter the promo code wtf that's how of fresh dot com promo code wtf so lizzy goodman the writer is my guest and i met her when i met her with mark once but she put me in her book can we talked about it when she was writing then she sent me the galley and i didn't quite get to it then she sent me the real book and honestly i just skimmed it looked at my part but i have very little recollection i talk to her about this but whatever was happening in rock and roll from two thousand one to two thousand eleven i gotta tell you i think i miss most of it i don't know what i was doing i don't know where i was i mean the last time i knew i was really blocked in to root to rock and roll happening in real time was probably in the late eighties and then side some i just some i went away i don't know where i went but i wasn't i wasn't locked in i'll mocked back in but this the two thousand one to two thousand eleven i was just a struggling comic trying to figure it out i do i get sober like i guess was right after i got silver that might add something to do with it but i just wasn't keyed in to the new york music scene i was just keyed into the comedy scene there was some crossover we we hammered out lizzy and i hammered out and i talk a newer the book is called meet me in the bathroom rebirth rock and roll in new york city 2000 a one to two thousand eleven which apparently are my lost years but that's not true i did i did radio did air america away way i got divorced a guy they'll get married got married and divorced in those years that would have something to do with it so i was listening to music but it was like twelve to fifteen songs that i put on a fucking mix after my wife left me that letter of that a lot of those twelve to fifteen sok unita heartbreak mix i got one how how long you've in la i have a real problem here really i just i've been here for three days where he frazzled you not a dry did you drive i know you drive here i'm from new mexico i know how to write weaker of your friends with i keep i always forget that i wanted to go i'm going you i i think that's a great idea it's great there had to how long did you stay in new mexico till like 14 seconds after i graduated from high school which highschool albuquerque academy i don't i didn't tell me all this now probably not i don't know you went to the academy here how do you i'm two thirty seven twenty five i don't know i just had a birthday and i have been i realize that i've been telling people my old age for at least the last couple of weeks because i forgot the elderly seven i was born in 1980 what was your old age thirty six turns out are you've and you have a goto no no no i just i have this joke with my friend rob sheffield that might ages is 26 forever i have not really evolved pass that i may i'm moving i think i might move i have to me become hear a lot more now what's happened and so i'm thinking don't use drop that i will vote will that but at one of my biggest or i've been thinking about where i to live show alana's neon it seems to be happening fedronic yeah in what way but i will tell you but just my biggest concern is that i'm gonna miss winter and one of my friends his out mean half my friends that i hear one of my friends his lobbying been lobbying me for an ally move for a long time was just suggested to me recently and i never thought of this like you go to new mexico for winter go have winter new mexico's eventually just go have a mild winter well i mean it's cold it's not new york coal i live in upstate new yorkright now oh my god where high falls new york it's what are you doing up there i was finishing a book this book yeah that embassies different one who one of the one of avoiding talking about on your wedding efficient probably hate it which is fine this not hate is not the word disagree with no italian a disagreement thing i missed it of course i miss this if the it's called earth and rock and roll in new york city two thousand one or two thousand eleven i know none of the bans in the really would you like some help well that's why we're going to do but not down yeah yeah so yeah i like the idea spending the casual winter's in new mexico where he here in the higher or some parka whitesnow nodded loom area the luminary of i've in kerala's is awesome when you get your health through in the lights now no known does the candles anymore you can't go said i know they are good they one hundred percent you it's the real thing all right some people still do the rules of very traditional place kerala's new mexico we what we think about living here i'm not admitting that i'm thinking about overweight now i don't lie echo part will people i i don't like them i don't wanna be near them like i don't wherever the williamsburg of la is i don't want any williamsburg valet thank god is not because here it's like bloctobloc you know williamsburg maybe i don't know it's different i mean i want to live by the beach but every night if that he can't live vitamese because yield you know fall off well why show business quarter year because of the book a real yeah marks like oh that didn't even occur to me what an awful idea i have i have to tell you were important which can into serbia but do you know some people like it so is known and i i know it's people love it and i understand that not being yeah i'm very sure there's no i know you and i'm totally teasing you i this book is about a period where you could actually get most of the people to play themselves as their younger selves and it'd be pretty quiet pretty close he added in various no it's going to be there like documentary and and narrative at like fictional adaptation series ideas around that's great i'm excited about it i mean i want to do more of that stuff anyway and always have or have in the last few years and so it's like fund to think about how to make the i mean people i've just felt really gratified by the kinds of ideas that have been a you know because as skeptical that the whole hollywood here at it so far than the people that i think we're going to be working with are awesome well we're did you how'd you start out where'd you end up you went to the academy graduate you got brothers and sisters yeah i gotta younger brother take that's a good name yeah he's get he lives in nigeria really he's a foreign service officer he's a diplomat o good for him the state department and cut them loose yes no um now not yet that's good maybe maybe nigeria this sort of like what i stand ninety he got there he just got there and it's funny we're talking about luminaries he's going to have lumina or something he's having he's getting married in december in england here on dan and he's going to have all this new mexican stuff we've been talking a lot about the new bringing the new mexico to the new mexico christmas vibe to london thoughts nice yeah so what would you go to college after you can ran away to fill it i mean i wanted to be on the rules like right away it was all about new york as obsessed with new york and with the idea of lake eastern urban magic get the eu's when he grow up in a smart household in new mexico you i i want to go to where really happens i like all this cowboy cowboy intellectual shit i that's exactly how i felt i mean it is disturbing to be talking to you about this there there's basically no one who gets out of new mexico so those of us who do all have the same kind of like course spirit about that if you go back they go back oh hi tonnes tons yeah i mean you're going back now i've been thinking about it yeah it's drawing i think about it to the way on wife yeah my heejoo like i don't i like i i don't i'm done with new york i'm almost down with la whereas from argun go this is how i feel you say i'm too young to feel it this is literally the conversation i've been having while i'm here i'm like i will always feel like i live in new york that i don't need to live there anymore and so therefore where do i feel good well that's only corral us exact cheese like me literally only corral starting to feel that it's the only play me for me is not quite corral but i always romanticise prowess but i'm a couple of miles away how you i think would i very close to corral but a all right so dan study what english and classics and your girl at the plan was only good was to be a writer now what a crazy idea what idiot would do that you can't be a writer what was the point of in new york and what just like hang out no the plan was to idea you know i was eighteen i didn't have i had a i had a homing instinct not a plan like i'm gonna come to college because you have to go to college like i'll go as close to new york as they can go and i was really good student and i cared about being gets you now i love school and great china japan but no the plan what it what happened was and this is the right call like i now understand this in a way that i can articulate and didn't at the time that i advocate for it it's like i had to put myself near stuff that would so i could be in a position to have what should happen next revealed to me brian what i mean later that's what new york is yet it's a no to be you know for me and and for others that that's kind of what the books it out here at sense of i don't know why i'm going here i'm just going here because it seems something's telling me to do that and i can't tell you why and i may not even know right away or for years but it's where my next myself is going to emerge on the oddly e know it's because the place it new york holds in the cultural unconscious yes for years since the 70s yeah specially if you're groovy artistic you know literary it it's like it it's grooms large yeah it means something to mean something it's an idea and hand but there but still to this day there's nothing like it i mean you you know you can i can't live anywhere unlike well but do you did you find always at like i was just in new york and for the first time in my life i went over to jazz at lincoln center as fiftythreeyearold and it's have always been there and i was there for for fifteen years on and off and i did nothing like oh yeah hey like all this stuff veiled me like people you go the museum of modern art i did once twice here but i am now like i feel like i'm ready to do that stuff in its fortunate because now i understand new york pretty fucking while i can get around and ought to do what other so if i go in for three days on my show again see let's do it but that's okay that is exactly why my i feel like my current relationship with new york is among the best that i've had which is like when you leave you are able to to be a kind of the it's almost like the first fifteen years are investing in understanding the place enough that you can become a named formed tourist when you go there so now i do that too like i go in from upstate you know every week or so every ten days and i do three days of city staff all my friends i gutted restaurants i do all these things that i had no energy to do because those so relentlessly overstimulated by the time i laughed at that i was like i can't even like i just want to hide and so now there's this the slate has been cleared and it's like new york it's fun again but that i don't ever feel when i was nineteen and started coming to the city from philly all the time i felt like mm i needed it too like kind of worked on me in order to help me figure out how to become myself and now i know how to be myself how did you go there were year ranked ninety eight i moved to philadelphia and i was in school my dad is a new yorker semi dagger opens in status in town via and my grandparents unawares there for a while a who's going to get that apartment come on you tell me about the survivors adel got your grandparents of art okay it's on has pink walls the who is getting that next ruth good men lives there she she's you know she's she's it's her place man here i mean no one's it's a rental it still like i know rentcontrolled renzo deeply rent controlled rental yeah your eyes are like glinting the cia is the new yorker area edge rooms juve everyday that have what's the kitchen like hallander yeah it's the last of the rent control listen everything you're thinking is true it's your fantasy come true it's like the per it's an it's walker they've this would be good always is when you've when i was there you like the idea of control was i i'd rent stabilize but that doesn't mean something i and stabilise to that that's like they're like it's not as brutal so really when you move to new york in earnest this is when this book starts yeah i mean i started coming to the exactly like i started coming to the city from philly to see show i love the story is it's in the introduction to the book it's basically like i i moved to new york the first summer that idea college says after freshman year i i moved to the city i lived in my grandparents apartment i worked at murray yeah and i got a job in a restaurant you worked at sesame street i had an internship at sesame productions or whatever that it was the production company that pretty sesame street that will you write in turn shed you're gone for showbusiness i was not go i was like this is the justification for me being here that's the one the ethics as all i i didn't pick it it was like available and we really i was like i need to go hang out in new york city trash camera oscar with no no they never let me near it wasn't a coup it was like i don't even remember what i did i wasn't near actual sesame street it was the production cut it was it you know is a midtown office building that was set not no would you how could you work for sesame street nakos he were seriously streets production company produces a lot of shows sesame street the crown jewel i was a lowly turn we love the you're acting like this is my choice yet one day they rolled in and they were like do you want to go to the sesame street sat and i was like nath no that's not out having no anxieties me i was i was i you didn't meet ernie organiser continued i wanted to meet rock voice mark i tend not grow her no grown all right grover and the guy with nights in serious who you're like all right yeah he taught me how to ride the subway right are you there you're working says mystery not going to not doing all of the things that i know i've disappointed you deeply and just i got a job in a restaurant 'cause i needed to make money because i wasn't in school and i had to lake support you know i had free rant that i had to lake right pete or whatever you run by close i guess whatever i cared about at that time records and so i got this job at this i got this job training to work at this restaurant crossstrait from grand central station said they were opening any day now and they are hiring up staff i got this job and we end of course it took much longer for them to open and they had anticipated citybased they had hired this staff of kids board hot city kids who went there every day for like four hours and got paid this lowly amount of money and did things like practiced waiting tables and learned the wine list and stuff like that and my coworker was nickel anc who was the guitar since strokes and he was in this band like hit with his friends called the strokes of now the portal opened and you're well no i mean no it was years that was nineteen that was the summer of ninety nine and it was i mean it was a couple of years before like albert the other guitarist had not joined the band yet they weren't they it was my friend nix like ban nick i was nick was like halfheartedly in college and they were just city kids and i was i mean the portal that opened that summer was not rock and roll it was new york like oh nicholas cool in in that he grew up in the city and understood how to sort of like wander wale and how to get into bars and how did you set just it was sort is it was what like i had been learning i it with training wheels in philadelphia that as a new mexico kid like how do you how do you orient yourself in urban life and let these places kind of lake you know wash over you and expose you two things you're supposed to be exposed to how to get the rhythm down and that like nick and i would just hang out after after pretending to wait tables and you know lake wander round office parks and smoke weed in office park teller fina behind off sparked pillars and sort of like just wander around midtown it wasn't and then sometimes i would go downtown to lake st mark's and sneak into bars and do stuff like that beazley it was like that was what was pal 99 summer here that must that summer was those were my marriage was falling apart that was the other big thing that is happening for every avatars you knew marc maertens mary and who's out more a yeah and then he got thrown out of that house in the other find to subway weighed down us instead it was way chiller than what you are dealing with try and dukan redo one man shows that was that are that is i was the best theater oh my god the west bath yeah that became significant for me later really yeah because all the artists where had their studios in there and still do it's still let me extra to yes rate on the west that the west village became later after i finally moved to the city in two thousand two became like my spot because i don't like coolness like i don't like i didn't like i do not want to be on the larry cider off that city will whites places for me when i when i moved there i guess was eighty nine the first time and then i went back in nine the four remember you saying that yeah but but you know and i talk a little bit in the book about the you know what happened then but it really wasn't the only put i was just a little weird historical artifact you put that this from the guys from the generation before radio exxon giuliani for two minutes well i needed that i've might do i thought i was well represented good you were i agree um so this is all just before nine eleven yeah and the you've you found your place on the west side where it's not hip with artists that are well no i mean i went back to philly for like that so what i'm saying is that the that's why it's this is an important about the book the s not bands like i wanted to be a lawyer or something i thought it was gonna be a lawyer i was a school kid but i was pulled towards this sense of magic and misery about new york city that is the idea that we are already just talking about and he hadn't yeah i loved writing but i didn't work from my school newspaper i didn't it wasn't like what what it was was it was like i'm i i i was being drawn to some expression of culture that was related to my generation that i that had not happened yet and i did not know that that's what i was being drawn to you that i during the next few years in the part the four nine eleven were all these bans interpol yesterday as strokes and in you know white stripes and other place like around the world there all the stories that converged in the book all of those people were feeling similar things like assent this basically the same age as i was and feeling a kind of like i wanna make something that i don't entirely know what it is and like the world is not really receptive for this kind of this kind of vibe it's not supposed to be about urban call right now it's not supposed to be about notions of near and what was it supposed to be about in a music industry is supposed to be about dance music erica in you know i i mean in england it definitely was about dance music or was about like postscript popstar th i mean and in my business it was like i mean in the writing what became my business it was like it wasn't that exciting to imagine yourself as a rock journalists because there wasn't a lot of cool rocked the end so that's right it was sort of submerged in jam jammed asked you for a little while they're right i didn't think oh i'm going to be a music journalists i thought there's something about the way it feels to wander around manhattan at four p m on a really hot day in the summer where everyone rich has left the at they're making me feel like i'm getting somewhere and i can't really tell you why and so i went back to college and i studied and an ice kept in touch with neck and a couple of other people that i owe you and he would come and play shows and then i would see in philly and i will go see him and i had friends in philadelphia who are starting to lake want to go to shows so it was like it was a thing to do that had enough in it for years it was a thing to do that had nothing to do with aspiration of any kind and that was really important and it was also like it was like traditional rocking aware coming back it was not necessarily art rock punk rock was sort of finished in a way and and i guess wakeham sort of 'cause like some of the bands in the book i was given like for some reason at that time when i was there in late 90s in then like i left by two thousand two yeah but i was given cds and stuff for iced up for some reason i have the jonathan fireeaters he shot up i do that's awesome yeah they were so amazing i listen to it and i was into it but like what you're with that have been have 90s yes okay so okay so that was that times out yeah yeah they were the yeah they were round is great ho right i have my buddy john daniel was involved with music so i was sort of up to speed on something yeah okay will and 90s wealth that's all right i mean but like like jazz it only o good if you were there i mean that theoretically lay the thing about looking at the book and reading through some of it is that like when i read please kill me that was the those were before me and i was when that was what everybody was going to new york to find was that that's what this is about no i get that with moscow eyes were going to find that for sure and you kind of right about that yes like that's we're all looking for that thing that was like just it was just the the remnants of it and the and the people that were involved with that you'll first wave of whatever made new york cool were just kinda droopy greyhaired dudes walk around in their weather payments that don't fit any more with somebody going like that guy used to be something yeah if that if they are even living there anymore but i i guess i just think that that's the continuum i mean it's not like every winning please kelme weren't weren't polling on i see the continuum of that notion of new york identity as much much 70s as going ponca much further i mean i think much scher further back that than just whole idea it's it's it's i mean this is later but it's fifty yeah and it's jazz it's it's fucking ellis island man it's like come to it's it's in the american identity of new york gonna come here and you're going to reinvent yourself and the culture all potency of that has is almost as old as you know as the city in some way and so but specifically in the world of the arts yes you know what what you know what came out of new york and and what sort of defined it is you had a wealthy people who were willing to kick in to make she had happened yes right yeah and a lot away sure to reject the of a lot of the factors but then i mean you know that for us because this is my taste in i i i think yours too like the punk the 70s punt seen in cb jesus just like i meaning please county was my total bible i'm obsessed with everybody and napa i love that music that's my stuff i came to that late you're now the earth your specialty is more material for the business card wait to the partly to the party on air safety and wrong kinda leadership skills doesn't look good for any of us march mirror merit love martin on but you know i mean obviously there's also the whole greenwich village like i mean dylan for most people dillon is the touchstone for this and it's so the idea that new york is this place that's constantly polling on a previous constantly kind of coopting and borrowing its own past self via to reinvent for a new group of young people essentially the a new for them version of the same thing how are they related to turn all right they can still find the space there if they can still kinda save their which is the question now but like for my for this book for young in the bathroom like i don't see it as a see it as just this sort of the the the chapter in the cannon at that new york cultural story it's just rose right into the bookshelf right there you know after police kelme and after madonna and light up before whatever comes next but it's just it's a stop it's a stop on the larger train i think that and what comes next is going to be a a prominent either chinese or russian trend do you have that i'm good authority seems like it that's the vets me speculating that summer noncash catastrophic start i have is not catastrophic at all as i say that so so when now way what starts to drive when did you meet the the the way great mark spitz i met the late great mark spitz pretty early i i assume he he served as some sort of guide to whatever the fuck happened to you while yeah i think he'd really like you putting it that way well what mark would say is that i thought he tommy everything i know of on so he would want me to say it that way i tell you this bright i've kid from new mexico through philly who's looking for a rock fantasy and that dini and blames outta some yes he's like i can help you out seles ruin your life and i was like great and say it's the glare sorry yeah he talks in his memoir about how i was wearing flipflops for spammy and he's like they're not shoes zia like he was very my new mexico vibe was pretty united wearing makeup i didn't like i was still kind of like fresh scrubbed girl that point and i think mark with space mark dea like you know bad bad asrat girls with lake peroxide blond hair and he was sort of like you are entirely to clean for me basically and i was like okay but you like me no no as a recipe for disaster who's gonna win well that's where it's later and he would say things to me like yes chased me you know and i was like hot can you do the thing amassing unity or what he writing for spin when you met him yes so the way i'm marklevinshow sara louissant who is also a great character in the book and one of my best friends was my roommate in new york when i first moved there so i graduated from college and by that time it was clear that like the city's music scene was happening and i felt i was like dare to it i was inspired by all of i was inspired i was inspired by and have sudden a there was something to write about nato i then was like i wanna be a writer who writes about this but i i taught secondgrade frontiers first 'cause like i can't be a writer thought that's nice i taught at an allboys private school on the upper east side uh glazer's no really has a double life for awhile we were real like fullon teacher major oh yeah misguided men secondgrade whether in how what how did that and why did that and it a two year and it's like your estate teacher and then you either maybe you kind of the carrying on of that would have been to go get a degree in education and like stay in school and would stop you from doing that oh you know i'm are on that cya now now he loved at he he would talk about how wake up in the middle of the night and i would go 'cause i had i talked to my sleep and here go boys get in line and you'd be like jesus who is this girl and is scary she's like yeah so now okay so now you're you're getting you're you're getting involved with the rock senior roommate is what is she says sarah was marks like little protege at spin so i met mark before i graduated from college actually at coachella the one of the first coach as i went out with sarah to see if we could live together we went to this rocked festival together to lake try it on here and on she introduced me to mark who is i mean it's it's in the book their their meeting is pretty awesome like he was he didn't understand instant messenger and because and he's mark air sarah i was like this sort of protec savvy little jewish girl in new jersey who is who liked his writing it's like high and i'm also girl he had like why is this window coming up and they can eventually she wore him down in the house and so she introduced me to him and we had you know a serious series of battles for about a year and a half that then got together and yeah i mean mark was my tour guide through he was writing for span he was a hot shit writer writing cover stories about all these bans and how'd you manage not to get all fucked up i don't know my i honestly i i think it's genetic i i really do i just i don't know may just have the thing i'd die went out and drank every night like everybody else and reich you know there is all kinds of drugs around in yet but i just didn't care that much about it for you but it's not good for me that makes it sound like something i get credit for and it's not like i get credit every not be compelled by that like the like to just a drink in smokes from we'd and just enjoy the music you don't have to go you know you i mean i like you don't have to divert alliance but it's it's it makes it sound like it's a matter of sort of will and it's not it that's why are saying connecticut's like i don't have i'm compulsive in other ways right now i get it i get it that's why i'm saying you're lucky unlucky yeah so that's how okay unlucky so let's talk about you know the the bands that define this thing and the ark of this book because yeah like i just i i think i got my first walkman album like six months ago okay i'm larry liking it so okay i think i got that guy so record i thought that was get those good singer yeah so the strokes you knew that you saw them become what they want us in then and then like the the white trips our guests were coming in from detroit occasional yeah but i didn't the white strips were not like sort of first generation in new york of that were like any who has that were the strokes interpol yay as an lcd soundsystem feel like the whole lcd soundsystem thing like people are like you got your view murphy guy got your mike i don't know what he did so i had to get quite catch up with dfa miyazu jonathan the guy over what is the aga he sent me all this shit yeah i like that the prince worn dance called record yes good first record i love okay maharidge starting went ahead to go find me that record like i said you have one of them around their way it not be you know we have one ring laying around here we were using as a as a as a like a a map for when you eat your time castle your way into this that's you will love james and y'all that's i listen to a no it's great it's great i watch the movie and i i actually narrated a short documentary five lcd thousands of heavier like who the fuck is this no anyway script evaluated out but like i know he something because he mental i too a lot of people like i can see how they met something that people can also see how they kind of like you know kind of like well there's a there's a gap pure that was once occupied by the talking heads yeah that we should climb in do totally the talking heads said that i mean that's what i got no problem that kinds of sending okay i am not jane so you're not to defend now i understand how music work tell me more i understand you tell me my understand that there is now out of new she it yes and that you just keep inventing the old shit i think i mean yeah all right sure i think the thing that all the judge the the period that the book covered with the book is about is not music it's about all the things we i talked at it's about it's about new york it's the central character it's about what it feels like for this group of people at that period of time under to do a thing that is eternal as we just described which is to be young and to feel on scene and to get together with certain friends serendipitous lay that you meet who unlock something in u n two in the shadow of lake at theoretical anonymity make something beautiful that makes you feel alive i mean it's pure that's like that's art that's young people that's new york city that's rock and roll that the but it's important for the book that the context is also from my generation are these people that we're talking about it's happening in in coincidence with all these other major global events like napster we just 2000 and nine eleven which is one hundred percent you know a huge part of this story obviously and it's about and then the reinvention of brooklyn and the commodification of brooklyn and the exporting of that via the internet the newlyborn internet to the world as this sort of notion of how to live like a lifestyle brand to be earth to by going to interview james he said i was trying to dip into that like the brooklyn idea in williamsburg and all this stuff in kenneth ease my way in he goes oh yeah that's all our fault like cool thanks scott and it's that's what so this story is about that but it's about that through the lens of paul banks and carreno and yes you know later jack white or the kingsley on guys or whatever and then off to england and off to the killers in vegas and around the world but that record we should nikola pile of what you did have it'll be about three hours them sti no than i i know i the jonathan firefighter that's a hall in allied it yeah that's a you know you get points for that that's a big crowd point the area the i like one thousand out is great i thought it was pretty good but those bans i mean to answer your questions such as it is it's like there's no like yeah there's nothing new under the sun and this is a retaliating of a generational story there will be i i believe that people make things new i i'm not one of those people that yadav a problem with appropriation i don't have a problem with with the of the evolution of music and he because like if you really look at rockets the people that really make something completely new or generally misunderstood and you may be years later people like i think i get it and somewhere they're like nato the other but there's a core group of fans that are sort of like worthy the only one said get it yet that bullshit any basically the story of the book too i mean if this is mark says this in the book i mean he's one of the greatest characters in it where he's basically like look i was 28 and writing for spain or whatever less was thirty something his thirty already and writing for span and like mark who had an encyclopedia harry say that pete accent encyclopedic thank you very much sandy pratt thing music and film knowledge and all that stuff of was sitting there in new york city loving york city's sort of but just board and that the thing that this that this that there's the sort of beginning of the book that everyone had in common energized boredom energy everyone was bored james murphy was bored he did not know carreno carreno was bored she did not know julian julian was bored gillian didn't know paul paul uh the interpol paul was bored and it was like in their own independent corners of this town at that period of time they all did something about that board and then mark spitz or sara or any of the other sort of non musicians but journalists future bloggers a and our people like all the different sort of um i don't know contestants in this in this like road show here all had in common that sense of what we have here right now is really not enough and we need to like build something cooler and no one else is doing it so we're gonna do it so when spits heard like i mean he says this hilariously in the book where he's just like you know when i heard the white straits it took me a minute to figure out that i was being saved because it was my job to write about mark mcgrath every day and like there it was boring it oh yeah loaded orient and that's the story idea like i get it i get it it's like well boredom mikey to classify all those artis as board i understand that but i think that if you in the history of of what happened with punk rock in the sort of like you know kind of strange angry apathetic posturing that happened is that what it comes down to though anybody who surfaces with any consistency may be board but their workers oh right well that oh totally i mean and that's also new york city like everyone in that town has to labour via the i got a want it yeah and you've got to keep pushing two two to sort of break away from the pack of garbage because in any city especially that size you know for every one may be original band there's going to be like twenty guys just tooling through rehash especially in an era where i mean it's hard to in it's hard to overstate this and it is crazy now but i mean it really seems crazy now that like being in a rock band i loved the guys and dumped than fired or talk about this and later the walkman they talk about how like telling your friends that you were in a band was like now i take us that late yeah it was like really didn't elettronica music kills janjaweed could do we have to go through this aid rallies yes on thursday is at sad than you know like you're gonna make us do that you'll biased drinks rate i mean it was like the least possible cool thing to do and and it was like lame and and kind of an opposition on your friends to ask them to conceive lesser so this whole the it's hysterical because relatively quickly people would be dressing across the country and around the world like they had just been thrift in on the lowery side but not when these bans formed but that's interesting because that whole thing you know that thrifty thing has reinvented itself with every generation of people yeah it's like the now like their thrift in 1980's clothing and i'm like no i know i now i'm feeling that to it's weird like his when i was in high school we were thrift in shark skin yeah not a better yeah yeah and then i had ended at kinda the whole for you know that rockabilly kind of boos like whatever the fuck it was going after the suits in any time we speak to someone about this like can we address this with the culture in general that we just nominate certain erez as as as take as as out of the loop of of going to be rediscovered some ambitious ivan around anymore like fortunately for now everything is made so badly can i know that will never happen you'll never never be thrifty 2017 they should is not going to hold up maybe we've inadvertently solve the problem rallying stealing the fascists that were previously thrift it yeah this is not even making shit that will hold up to be so maybe we just need a generation a cycle through that in like twenty years people will actually have to create new stuff because it will literally going at all disintegrate and have to create outfits said will withstand the heat of there i'm sorry i've taken me right out of there i did it i'm sorry for him you're not enclosed outfits with of'short new mexico's supposed to fair relatively well i mean waters going to be a problem but waters going to be a problem but we have the mountains we aquifers dory right on an akko yeah we give a lot of as i understand it no no eight i think we give a lot of water to california so mother fugger's he had one of the california's thirsty mansour okay so like i know owner free burger this one again with a list of names like oh i show you read all your quotes first come on of course yes okay then you looked at the list through an area in and i kinda poked around it like you know the chapter headings ps but a vote like i don't know grizzly bear the national i came much really lay to and i understand why they're good but i i don't know that i go back to the records up much tv on the radio maize i listen to their first and second record i'm like holy shit this is the media their incredible yet the a as the first couple of records i listened to her i had him the hives i had that record i remember liking so what is your problem nothing we're just get vampire weaken don't think i've ever heard him all right we'll interpol i think i got a recent record with like their back in a mike i missed it the first time pretty good we've routines just gotta whoever teens rokaya feeling about pretty good yeah kind of punky right yeah yeah i hope we will come on something and you'll be like you really have to go and do that is that what you're looking for ya well i buy a records i'm i'm mike i mean i mean a renaissance had music appreciation i'll send you a list i need i don't know like i have your book i know yet we'll you do though actually 'cause you can't start gone mouldy reaches yeah amazing did you play who's got the crowd i don't have it all right we'll play who's got the crap by the multi pages is just one song well that song in particular is your gateway drug for them dave across comedian i know him with his worse are you hold steady i like that guy greg gregory great right yeah he's a good talkers if thinker is good the killers i like that okay kingsley on first who records and crime what happened well y but okay that that's another alternate title for this book sure is where's the staying power while they're all still making albums and touring and dura al like literally all of these people yeah so like you okay let's talk about them what happened what did have well it's up first talk about like the whole that you know a nine eleven left in the world in that like in terms of near all over that chapter see that's another place right you would you but compounding the board white whatever that boredom was was that horrendous existential to terror sadness grieving like i think i talked to spits about that a bit did he ah but a lot of this came out of that well it didn't come out of that it riot it was positioned as gross that word is under the circumstances to be heard in a different way and buy more people as a result of it so lake nino none of these important records the first as record the first strokes record the first interpol record early dfa staff none of that had been was written post nine a lead and it was not a response to that ren before but it was about you know it was about all these themes that we are just talking about yet culture considered obsolete like sadness and anxiety and loud guitars as the solution to that as an expression of that is a response to being alive right it was like oh that's old news and then you know the towers came down and new york city is under attack and america is under attack and it makes you kind of return to the the sort of lake core aesthetics of rebellion and that's rock and roll so what are you want to hear you on here jack fucking white playing guitar you wanna hear the urgency of the first strokes record he wanna you want a kind of a manic toughness the that and i think so these bans who it's not like if nine eleven hadn't happened the strokes wouldn't have broken an englanda had already broken in england and kind of ignited this industrywide like doubletake towards new york before nine eleven happened there album was supposed to come out like the week after nine eleven the first one in the states so it was already kicking off but what nine eleven did is a couple of things i thank and this is argued in the book it it it animated it it increase the number of people who were immediately feeling the need for that kind of sound and it also turned the world's attention to new york city culturally in a way that it had not been it had not had the attention of of sort of like global cool hounds in that way in sense i dunno i also like it they were it was also the guy seventy hanshin for perseverance yes i mean ranked sympathy yeah you know you're bruce springsteen how to go to werleigh hurst tracy and got them back call tied to hit it and yeah and i think i mean all these bans talk about touring in the wake of that and being it off doing comedy in the wake of sure i and the but being cast is kind of emissaries for new york and again for this idea of what new york is about that the entire world on some level was either either loving your heating at that point in new ways it was it was interesting time because if you were new yorker and you did live there yeah you're like we're we're gonna fight yes totally and we're thinking about that now and and it and the other thing that it did i think for the purposes if this seen such as it is and tune day from tv on the radio talks about this in the book i think he when he when he said this to me it really kind of it was a turning point behind her standing as he talks about how the szekely he thinks nine eleven put a kind of pause button on the jansher vacation race there has already happening i mean the the sort of post the giuliani into bloomberg cleaning up of everything sure that would eventually result in the new york the slick anodyne near erni lives there no one does it's it's saudi billionaire's who have apartments for their homes yet they're summer homes that they like might go to it's me the ranch russian it's all yeah and it is it's well chinese i don't know what an honor i it's it's just feel like you've done it feels like it doesn't have a a cultural identity has architectural and the identity right now is money money has a bleaching a fact eventually on culture i think in right now new york feels to me like burnt out literate like whited out like nine i'm not saying that race i'll have her hands out in the way that it was burnt out was bankrupt brought down in the way back right that that like acid has been porn on it and it's it's blake bleached out like i don't know i mean i keep seeing you know i don't know what causes this but when a create is her your it has deadened yeah by capitalism yet money on and by people that don't that day they don't like it will be interesting to do really explore what is rooting there you know in the sense that you know it is completely antithetical that to what it used to be when it was i think the big difference was there was a time were always money there but the people that worked there could live this and now that central and what's funny and not ha ha funny but of course like the it's all connected to this era because that's way jane saying it's our fault is funny the in an again brooklyn brooklyn because it's all those people the new york became the kind of place where you would invest in that kind of apartment because of all of the culture that that re in live in debt and made it interesting and sort of buzz he and brand rival in that way and now all these people who bought their on some level whether they know it or not as a result of this this latest ingretation of that new york thing i live in a place where none of those people can be but this is also like in a way so boring because it's like no shit that's called the cycle of art madda called lake art versus commerce 101 i mean it's going to just play its that and held out over how they all moved out of the city like the that generation of their artist once they got money they all live here they orly or here or they live in new jersey or connecticut or are you not a lot of them keep sort of like i love this i understand this instinct i feel this instinct they keep places in new york like a little apartment on near the barrier rodal whatever lay in just to kind of be like no no i still guide of me i still have a place wrestle like this so this the the ark of this book front yo two thousand eleven sort of the ends in brooklyn beat becoming the like the the the wealth center of hipsters totally and the but also just that that did it ever have any integrity other than for sure but i also just think it's yes it did i'll answer that but also that the idea that that would have one of the things that's hard to see from now because it's so obvious that that is what took place is how unlikely that seemed that that would at the time if you had been sitting there in two thousand two and and sort of prognosticating that in twenty in ten years or whatever like williamsburg a place you could not get cabs to take you was going to be the default locus of cool for the globe for but it's weird because there was some would have been laughed out of that conversation what's really like i lived in the story i had an apartment in the story from 95 five hill like two thousand and two whenever they might sub wetter was just informed by the new known of the building that he now add the lease uh quick note with note under the door there were people like louis had a place in williamsburg there were people moving into long island city yeah and likes her was sort of happening but that was because you could get space fits dole rahab winning is that it's just like everyone move to williamsburg because it was cheap brand because in this to return to it ten days saying i mean it was like you could get free he indeed siddig met each other because they lived in the same converted loft and they were passing each other's rooms enough and seeing that the same shit basically was on the floor at each other's rooms and it was sort of like i guess we should probably talk you know you've got a same weird stuff in there and like loss and in that's not like it's so easy to be like wow that must have been so cool and it's like it's it's only romantic later at the time it's like i need to live somewhere and and and be able to paint place with that right but that's that's the story of the amine ripe but that context or that that framework of life has repeated itself yes generations generation totally though the yeah the law thathat's another title that we here but the thing about nine eleven that tunisia was saying that's important is that whole justification we're talking about in the money in the bleaching out or however you want a phrase it these are they his theory and i by this now is that that was coming much sooner and nine eleven pause debt because there was a sense i mean people thought no one would travel there anymore no one wanted to get on planes it was like leaving for a second it was like is new york's economy going to die this the is this really like are things you can get cheap they were rally are things are things going to you know plummet here is it gonna be russ 70s new york thing again because no one will tourism will dinro wanna live here and all that stuff is they're going to be because it was it was terrifying and it was like you know every plane that flew overhead it was i mean people there were a couple of years where and so what that created for the purposes of this book is this weird a period of uncertainty that was really a gift to these bans because there was a couple of years and this is my my hay day really of lake going out in seeing shows during that time it was two thousand to two thousand three maybe into two thousand four but fair li where it was like it was just wild everyone was like are we gonna die but hey let's party en route druggie and it got dirty and it wasn't that expensive yet rent wasn't going up really of sort of just like the whole the whole apparatus was trying to figure out how this was going to shake out and it was like kohl let's play the you know you should read boca for answer some of those questions behind the scenes what did you ever read that book securing the city on my god who wrote i like i like i recommend this book to so many people i did you secretly right it no oh could cover ominous yes it's a bow it looks like the beginning of every law and order old school lunch or episode is by christopher dickey who i believe is james dickey's son in the i still see him as a you you shows up on shows on cnn and stuff but it's really about how how new york had to create its own count yes i should read that it is to the injury yes 'cause it was like we had we're our own city and we ourselves yeah because federal government and the cia and the fbi were not talking real yeah there was in the federal government was not really stepping up so these guys know what was going yeah and it was it was with giuliani still who was like we've got to make our own counterterrorism force and we've got to have international alley yet ray kelly yeah food and this guy cohen associated irate ocala read this like and then i'll be like i should have talked to him for the buck this is my life like i wake up still at night is damage extradition don't even choke of add that why never writing another oral history ever again or only organized oh it made me move state to a cabin in the woods by myself because they had an emotional breakdown like it's so hard that organization is really a nightmare well you did it and people like it yeah and you know it seems to be all in their uae dill per is let's check it out they clear talk of what do you want from me i i think it is hilarious eiriksson i let my favorite people around the book art like that one of my favorite pieces written about the book was by my friend dan aasi who hates who does not like any of this music basically he's in the book talking about conner over since he loves turnovers but he basically doesn't he's a music nerd anna anna a rock critic and this it he's just like all his hand suck basically i mean not literally but it's not his stuff but the thing is like i have i like i i'm not a connor overspent but i have him in here handsome my best interviews with people who are mike i will that is why and say like i'm at that's basically i think i i enjoy the fact that this isn't your world i think that's more fun lagging learn the creator of service project to talk to someone like that then someone who's like julian casablanca's this my favorite rock star of all time you're like well you're gonna love this yet boy do i have a book free like the this is writing i take this this part of journalism seriously like it's not my job to write a press release for one of these fans its job to convince those who aren't naturally inclined to take this as interesting that there's something there well here's what i have to say i'm happy you kids had your okay are you gonna try to say that that was not condescending he has had a knock out of it is out of all right it's a joke it was it was it was a sarcastic coffin ha ha ha pa let's shift gears demar serious yet um you know i and then the private police state fire juliana of just personal stuff i mean like i i've and talk to you really since markelle passed away a eulogized him on this show thank you for doing and you know because i like the guy and i literally your text to them like would like a week before it happened here do you talk about what happened can you talk about it or not i can totally i talk about i liked talking that i think people are a little afraid understandably to ask me about him because it's france you romantically involved on and off your best friends he was on the up and up again it seemed yes 100 percent it's really tragic i mean the answer to what happened which is what i guess is like not known i suppose i mean i don't really know i don't know anything other than he died and then i i texted you too to say sorry but then i got no information and then you know you just sit there and go igor would have and what that you it's not he's one of those guys ruettgers bound to happen but he didn't seem like it was going to happen that way well a lot of people you feel like it's bound to happen and then it doesn't i mean mark was had a history obviously of drug use and i think most people assume that he died of an overdose and that's not what happens i mean he didn't he we don't know for sure because there was not an autopsy performed huh so there's no leisure a cause of death that attack i mean cause of death unknown as far as i know you ea yes so this is what you're not afraid to talk about we have no information kind of accept i mean they i guess they just think like i so i was here and you know we shared custody of our dogs for six so mark or seven an hour years together in from my 20s and then we broke up like 10 years ago and but we stayed incredibly close friends and he was my creative partner basically like that mark this book would not exist without mark he is the person on the other end of the line consistently throughout frame iin merrier well like naughty i mean sometimes like sometimes is needed grady stuff but more just all writers need like the the i'll people i guess that create the the sort of like hootie who is on the red phone was on it was like i don't know and this isn't working in what do i do and like help and also i just need to that it's like that was the dark we are really really tight creatively and he would do the same we would talk to each other about writing every day and our dogs and so i was out here and he had been in a period of incredibly badge oppression for a couple of years on i mean probably his whole life it had been really bad and um i was helping him in his his family was helping him you know try to get the right mental health care never quite came together for him and eventually and so eventually after a couple of years lake road than the month before he died he was better than i've ever seen and he may have told you that india he was like like running a little bit yeah he was taking better care lindo visit no no one he hadn't dan i mean i think i know that mark lied to me about drugs or the years he wasn't like here's what happened the night that he died he went to a bar on the night that i think he died he went to a bar because he i mean we don't know exactly when he died he went to of our on february second and he had a couple of drinks drink and a half with a friend and at six thirty something like that and he came home and he walked the dogs with this friend and he was inside his house with the chain on the door and the locks on the door and a bowl of pasta on his on his like coffee table they found him and i couldn't hear i didn't hear from him the next day and i was worried and i didn't hear for him the next morning and we he didn't do that with that i mean he the dog think mark loved dogs er that anything in the world and wouldn't fuck around if their howarth and knew i was all the way out in california i mean he was like mortar arctic about the doksan i am pia and that's how they a his eventually i woke up a bunch of people up in his super went into his apartment and he found him just slumped over on his couch with dinner on the table so like as i have never done heroin but my understanding is you get big bell right and also there was no drug paraphernalia in his house and no drugs oregon went yeah i mean it's an aneurysm or a heart attack or or what any he i mean the dogs were fine they were in that house with him for thirty six hours and they were thirsty and in america pasta here at left that here too viking luggage joni it in like pardon me asshole i'm hungry and like their sausage in that layer she's too short can get up to that just short short leg's well you know it's it's it's nice to know that it it probably wasn't some eur grisly relapse no i mean if fit you know i don't know enough about you tell me can you like have secretly donovan of heroin fight hours before and then go home and make dinner and then die from doing that i mean a dozen quite at up but i you know but it seems to me that he put himself and his body through and you not up to him you know you know and if you don't know what you're like i don't know one is less physical was i mean you could only had one he high made him go and get one with wh what was the informality all systems go but you don't i mean this is what the there's i mean i'm going to be dealing with moves it out over that out of my life by not heart stuff that well i mean right like this is if you have a blake blood clot if you've an an aneurysm is undetectable i mean you can't like you can show people and this we don't have any control over any of this in the illusion is that lake via if you take care of yourself and you get physical zinni's sort of like drink your green juice that there is a sense of of control over warding off death in it's just not like that and like mark abuse the shit out of his body but that's also no guarantee that he was going to die in that way and you can take really gets care of yourself and you can get hit by a but i mean you know or diet something undiagnosed it's just what happens and it's horrible it's horrible but the one thing we do know was quick yeah and he was there with the two people in the world that he loved the most which are those two dogs no good swear to god i i'm sorry for your loss and congratulations on the book and it was nice of you to dedicated to him of guel i my friend imran told a a really potentially off color but actually amazing joke about this on this happened because imran loved mark in knew him very well a lesbian he goes so that's what it took to get together because there was dedicated to my parents and they got for this is the only thing mark could have done and i mean you know you knew him quite well and you guys have a shared sense of real black humor and so do i and mark i mean i can hear and sometimes it's being like the biggest promised that book was there is not enough amee nso i had to be something that will yeah you've got to have the dark your mercy you don't you know so the bottom doesn't fall out was nice talkin united sock india that was fun those good those promotional in some ways don't forget if you're in now way you can join me and brendan for our only l a book event and signing this sunday october twenty nine th at seven pm go to live talks la dot org for the tour page of wto of pod dot com i can't play ktar tired and a little depressed boomer lives uh uh uh

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