17 Burst results for "Ray Handle"

"ray handle" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

04:54 min | 8 months ago

"ray handle" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"App is available on iOS only valid only in states where Caesar's race book is legally available. It must be 21 plus and reside in a state where such activity is legal to open a wagering account. Gambling problem, call or text 805 two two 4700, Caesar's race book get bonuses right out of the gate. Okay, so the morning line favorite gets the job done and raised to at San Anita violent runner getting her second consecutive win, but we're going to head on over to Belmont park where they also have a short field going to post little faster runners than what we just saw at Santa and nita. This is an allowance optional claimer for three year olds and up that are non winners of three other than or in for a claiming price of $80,000. They're going to go 6 furlongs on the fast main track field of 5. By the way, number three fire sword races with blinkers off today. The morning line favorite was number four chateau and chateau is a horse who has been running against stakes caliber competition. Most of his recent career. And he's actually been favored against and beaten stakes caliber competition several times. He gets the lead every time he goes to the races, and then you just have to hold your breath once they get to about the quarter pole through the stretch on whether or not he's going to keep going. He was 6 to 5 on the morning line. At that price, I thought he was a horse that you could play against. He's probably going to get the lead. I think new bomb is going to at least try to press them a little bit from the outside. Number two, three two zone. It looks very logical coming off a two other than allowance win last time out. He destroyed that field. He looks like he's ascending, whereas chateau looks like he may be going the other direction. The problem is, the prices are not what the morning line is. Three two zone was 5 to two on the morning line. He's 6 to 5 right now. I'm not interested in 6 to 5. It's not that I'm never willing to take 6 to 5. There are 6 to 5 shots that have a there's a horse running tomorrow. In the poker at Belmont in mason, one of two that Chad Brown trains, who 6 to 5 on the morning line. If that horse is somehow 6 to 5, I'm betting. It's probably going to be about one to two or three to 5 in the race. But this one at 6 to 5 three two zone. Yeah, he looks really logical in the spot. It's hard to take 6 to 5 when you thought you might get two to one or 5 to two. And that's where I kind of am with three two zone. Three two zone moving up the class ladder. He's been in the money ten of 14 career starts. He has run in stakes competition already several times. In fact, they thought he was a state horse last year, and he was good enough to run second or third in some minor stakes at Belmont and pimlico, but worked his way back down into the allowance ranks, and I think it's helped them. And his first race for ray handel was that allowance race last time out and in my mind, it's far and away better than we had ever seen from him. He was going from a trainer in Mario Montoya who was zero for 26 for the year to ray handle whose winning 30% of his races at Belmont park not only having a great Belmont meat, but just having a great 2022 overall winning at a 23% clip. I say day in and day out, ray handel is one of these guys. That's just sneakily haven't, you know, he's never going to get the accolades that Chad Brown and Bill motten Todd pletcher and Christoph Clement had because he doesn't have quite the caliber of runners. He doesn't have quite the number of runners that they have, man, he and his staff are doing a fantastic job and it seems like anything they get their hands on runs better than it was running before. So good on ray handle, good on his team, and three two zone. I know this. If he runs the same type of race today against three other than competition, that he did against two other net competition, he's going to win, and he's going to be in a stake race for his next start because they don't really, they don't really write four other than competition allowance races. You know, this is it. You win this race and you either need to you need to find a stakes race to go in. Whether it's in New York or somewhere else. We're going to find out horses have made their way to the gate for this 8th race at Belmont park. Number one happy farm, former steak runner who's worked his way back into the claiming ranks going into the inside gate still running some good races now and then. Three two zone is in, fire sword. Here's chateau in those yellow and pink colors of Mike dub. Chateau figures to show a speed, new bomb will try to keep him company early going. John embryo with race 8.

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"ray handle" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

04:27 min | 11 months ago

"ray handle" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

"Jump in too. Yeah. So last thing, kind of a weird spot. We're taping this interview before the city of brotherly love steaks at parks that you're running in on Tuesday. It's going to air after that though, so should we just talk about how your horse probably won easily? Oh man, I wish you won't believe what happened to the they had a herpes. I heard about that. But I thought that was getting kind of solved or something. Well, the horse, he tested positive for the respiratory one. It wasn't the neurological neurologic, it's the respiratory lung but we're still putting them under quarantine. It's going to be a week and the whole reason we're running in this race was to try and get back kind of on the Derby trail potentially. Prescribe some will probably going to run I nominated them for a stake at Laurel on the 19th. Jeff ruby and the bluegrass. So all those races are kind of up in the air right now. We're just trying to figure out what's best for everybody. So kind of regroup and see what we can do, but he's a nice call. So I'm excited about it. That was a kind of a dead performance the other day, but I just know he's a better horse. Ray handle, joining us here on the program. You find ray on Twitter at handle racing. I really appreciate the catch up best of luck to you throughout the rest of the spring. Thanks brother. I appreciate you having me on. Thank you so much. We'll be right back after a short time out of today's horse racing podcast brought to you by to inspires. This is the Jason beam horse racing podcast brought to you by twins fires. All right, big thanks to ray handel for joining us. Appreciate the conversation in the time ray. Best of luck to him at the big a it's ray ray at the big a see, I would totally use that in a race he won. But I appreciate his time, but tomorrow, David Harrison gonna join us the NHC champ from this year. Looking forward to hearing the story of David's big tournament win and more. So we'll do that a little Thursday interview. Like I said, we had my fault. The way I did it and so, but it kind of works out good this week is with Tampa Bay Derby week. I'm a little extra busy and kind of makes it easier for me I guess to have the extra interview. And like I said, we don't get entries for Tampa Bay Derby to later. I talked to Marty McGee texted me on Tuesday morning, I guess it was saying it looks like now charge it is not going to go into the Tampa Bay Derby. And I told him, I said, well, Marty, we'll find out tomorrow. And I said to be fair, you did caveat it. You said you heard he was going to, but you might see him in the entries, and I said, you know, we didn't commit Marty. We're not on the line. You know, it's Todd star that's on the line. So we'll look forward to seeing who is going to be joining classic causeway ship station and others in our big race also the hillsborough now. I haven't wanted to mention this. Because I have a big strong belief that you never mentioned the weather till it's like three days or less in. But since the Saturday March 12th, like showed up on the iPhone app, like 5 days ago, there's been a rain cloud over it. And as I sit here today, I went down to honeymoon beach this morning at like 10 a.m. 75° on the beach for two hours. It was amazing. It's supposed to be amazing Wednesday, but start raining a little bit Thursday, 50% chance Friday 90% chance. On Saturday. So I don't want to put that out there, but as a responsible broadcaster and host, I feel like we need to at least keep an eye on it. Till Wednesday or Thursday because like I said, weather changes and in my experience in Florida weather changes fast. So we will see. It's supposed to be 74 for the high Saturday. And then the lowest 37 that night. So there must be a storm coming through or a cold front or something, but it's also supposed to be windy, so. But we've crossed our fingers because, you know, the hillsborough and some of these other races are, you know, Florida oakes, graded stakes events on the grass, and we have such great grass at Tampa. It's beautiful. Looks like a fair way. So hopefully the weather cooperates and we'll have a good day for Saturday. But we'll talk about that on tomorrow's show along with welcoming and David Harrison. Big thanks to ray handel, big thanks to you guys for joining us and we'll see you back tomorrow..

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"ray handle" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

04:52 min | 11 months ago

"ray handle" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

"Because I was thinking, I've seen a few times where, you know, you get a poor runs huge made and then you look and it's like, you know, Claire of it ain't selling anything. That's good kind of thing, right? Yeah, somebody told me once. Somebody told me once that if you only sell if the money changes your life in any way. Yes, exactly. Yeah, I mean, I was high on publicly with that, but I couldn't have spent the quarter billion to buy them. That's the tough first part. Ray handle joining us here on the program, but you're success this meat has kind of been parallel with Dylan Davis success. You know, I know you guys work together a lot and he's just having a tremendous winter meet there. I have to imagine it's kind of cool. Not only seeing him kind of make that next step in his career, but kind of being a part of it. Yeah, no, he's my boy, and his agent might be my voice. I mean, I'll call him and just be a citizen for like an hour. On a given night and I have a couple of glasses of wine to call him up and just cut up and you know we're always talking. Let's call him bounce things off of me sometimes and ask me about a horse here and there. But in Dylan's great, you know, he's doing comes in, he checks on me, he does a lot of him in July and Samuel work a lot of horses for me in the morning and they're great. It's all a team and we're all rooting for each other. You know, I win the race for somebody else. He's always the first, one of the first ones to be sex and same thing with his agent. So it's been nice. We've both kind of come up through the game and we both put a lot of work in and I'm so happy to see you success. He got a great one before me, so I got to catch up. Ruin one last grade. Once I see if I can catch it up to this. Have you run in a grade one yet? Yeah, but not very successful. Oh, okay. So I've actually never won a great thing. I saw that when I was doing the preview I was kind of curious because you have one stakes races. I know that. Oh yeah, one 26. I actually have a bet with Chad stubborn, the first trainer to win a great has to give a $5000 donation to the other person's charity. So well, didn't he have mine that biscuits though? Oh, okay, I was gonna say because you might owe himself that if that was the case. No. You and him have kind of you and him have kind of a funny little rivalry going on or is it just a one way rivalry? Well, you know, it's pretty much interesting. And good fun, but, you know, we're all in this thing together and just everybody's just trying to stay alive, but it's fun to I feel like we need to be more of that customer with a little bit of a rivalry a little bit of egg and on and there's nothing wrong with friendly friendly fire. I used to say that I used to say there were some things we could learn from like WWF wrestling like, you know, just how great would it be if a jock and an interview was like, you know what? I rode the hair off that sonic gun. For one for me, we don't win this race because they never do that, right? Thanks to mister and misses so and so for putting me on, you know, I'm just grateful to this man. Yeah, no, I agree. Within reason. Yeah, exactly. No, and we don't, you know, there's no MSN anybody that has been like that. It's all good, clean, fun. And, you know, when you're in the game you're competing against a small pool. So, you know, you don't think you're the best guy out there on the track doing it. You're probably not going to be doing very good. So there's a lot of personalities and egos on the rich chat. Anybody else? Ray handle joining us here on the program. Last thing I was going to ask you about, this is kind of jockey related to the announced that Pratt ruspoli were coming to New York. And as a trainer, when a new writer comes over, I mean, obviously those guys both have kind of reputations at this point you know their skill level. They're obviously going to kind of come beat around the barns and see what's going on. Do you pursue writers if they're coming in? Do you wait for them to come to you? Or for you or you just kind of happy with the guys you got? I'll tell you what, I'm really happy to be coming here because that means I get to ride my guys and I ride all the time. I have to worry about nobody else taking them. Well, especially in the summer, that probably is a thing, right? Yeah, because you know, I don't know what Joelle is doing, which you ask. You can dig and stuff. So I was a little worried because I use a little bit of Rosario and that's his main man. So I was worried he's dealing with certain to write a lot to come on and I was like, man, this might get sticky here. With no Rosario, so I'm kind of glad that those guys are coming in to open up a little bit and that way, leave some people available so I can hopefully keep my guys and if I guess if I don't get my guys, I get.

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"ray handle" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

04:50 min | 1 year ago

"ray handle" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"I'm probably keeping them separate. I'll probably go to the if we run one two three if I go to the wooden memorial with him. Just sell them until then. What a great problem. These are the kind of problems you dream about. Yeah, no, it's been pretty cool only about two colds last year's two year old. From another mother to two year old and I bought constitution lawyer as a yearling. So this is only two boys I bought as young horses. So it was pretty cool. How do you get his name from another mother? I said, don't ask me how he got the name. I didn't hear you say that. Is that what you saw? Yeah. Well, you knew I was going to come back with it. I know, I needed to go, because I don't know exactly how I know part of the story, but I don't want to butcher it and get something wrong. So next time you do this, hopefully this has to be with the Gotham and I'll have the name on set of paper and I can tell you exactly what the name is. All right, it's a deal talking with ray handle. He is a busy man. I'm gonna let him go, ray, listen, all the best in the withers today, all the best with from another mother and all the runners that you're going to saddle. Good luck and really appreciate the visit. And let's talk again here before we get to Louisville. Thanks, brother. Appreciate it always. All right, right handle. That interview brought to you by our Friends. Jellyfish water. If you have not ordered your case of inspiration yet, you need to do it. Because whether you are a jockey and owner, a trainer or a horse player, it doesn't matter. There is always an opportunity to refresh and reset with every single loss and certainly a reason to rejoice with every win. And whatever the day brings at the track or in life, you can reach for a bottle of jellyfish water to refresh, reset, and rejoice. You can find your case of inspiration at jellyfish water dot com. And if you haven't done so yet, what are you waiting for? I have a couple of cases sitting here in my garage. And let me tell you, it is fantastic. It is a great case of inspiration every time you look at that bottle and it makes you think of all of the struggles and all of the good times that come from those struggles. Spectacular jellyfish water dot com. All right, time now for your Lexus legends of the turf brought to you every Saturday by Lexus of Lexington when I come back. We'll continue to talk three year olds. I'll do that with Jerry Crawford from donegal racing. We'll talk about mod donegal, going in today's holy bowl. But first, your Lexus legends of the turf. Pouring back the sands of time through the hourglass of racing history to a late November day in 1923 brings us to the story of a match race between two superb thoroughbreds whose squared up in a rubber match having defeated each other once already. It was at Churchill downs and an enormous crowd had assembled for what promised to be a dandy and no uncertain terms. The combatants are of Sinclair zev and Karl whiteman's in memorial. Zeb had won the first confrontation between the two and that year's edition of The Kentucky Derby and in memoriam had turned the tables on his foe in the latonia championship stakes barely three weeks before this particular match race. Each of the owners put up $10,000 that Kentucky jockey club did likewise. The winter was to take home $25,000 the loser 5000. Earl sandy was in the sad zeb, Mac Garner drew the assignment on in memoriam. Zeb was a big brown horse wearing blinkers for this match and in memoriam was a strapping bay with a deep chest and a long free stride. When they lined up at the barrier every I was glued to the two stalwarts and the excitement and anticipation of the moment was indeed intense. Zev made up all start, then start our William Hamilton, let them go on their way to a race that to this very day underscored in the annals of sport as one of the all time great ones. Zev broke out on top but apparently under orders, sandy wrapped up his mount a bit and let in memoriam under Garner go on out to set the pace. Down the stretch need the hallow twin spires and on into the turn it was in memoriam by a length. On around the Clubhouse turn, they stayed the same way, and as they went down the back side, in memoriam, opened the lead up to a length and a half. At the half mile pole in memoriam headed by two and zeb spends begin to wonder if their favorite could catch his rival was running easily and being well rated by Garner. At the three prolonged marker, sandy dropped his mount down and asked for a run in a run, he got. The white silks of the rank Coke is stable glistening in the fall sunlight began to cut down the margin, and by the time they hit the top of the stretch, they were racing as a team. A ton of horseflesh pounding powerfully to the wire. This my Friends was a horse race by any measure or means. In memoriam on the rail, zeb matching marble strides just to the outside of them, as they thundered down the straight zeb drew away to an open length lead. And then a length and a half, but with a furlong to run. It was for practical purposes all over. It appeared in memorium was a beaten horse,.

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"ray handle" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

05:26 min | 1 year ago

"ray handle" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Used him very early on in my career and recently once we've had some good mojo he's written a couple versus for me at one winner with him in the two X with the affiliate and just read it a few weeks back and I have a total confidence in him. He's right this meet well he's a great jockey, it's one plenty of big races. So you know we're happy to have him on. Talking to me trainer ray handle here on trainer talk. On the equine forum. I'm talking to a trainer. I immediately go into trainer talk mode. On the forum all presented by twin spires. We talked about this horse and how much he's improved with every single start ray. He breaks his maiden last time wire to wire over a muddy surface at aqueduct. There are going to be people that will draw a line through that race and say, well, hey, he got out to the front. It was a muddy track. It wasn't a legit performance. What do you say to those people that are still questioning his maiden win? We'll find out today, maybe the right. There we go, right? Yeah, I never know. He showed us I mean, he was pretty short in that race. I mean, it's not like you won 15 to one. So, you know, even fast, that's a legit times you carved him out all himself. You know, I know the horse to run second to him. Didn't run so great in his race back here on 7th second yesterday at one to 5, but it was also going one turn. So a little bit different circumstance. So I think we're excited. I think we have the advantage of going the distance before. Yeah. And we have some things working towards our favor. And I think I've run a great race today. How about the similar circle? Inside post position going a mile in an 8th in aqueduct. That's not a bad thing. I'd rather be in the one hole than the central because the turn comes up pretty quick. Plus, I think he's going to he's a horse that had missed the break a couple times in his first two races and had really been working with him a lot through the gate, and he broke sharp last time. And I continued to work with him to the gate from that last race and you know we're going to come out come out running and if he's on the front, I wouldn't mind seeing that either. We touched on this earlier with the characteristics, the things that Derby caliber horses will show trainers and show the people that gallop in the mornings. And you talked about that with the other three that were part of, you've worked with some big names. I mean, you mentioned Tony Dutch. You mentioned Kenny mcpeak. When you're around those types of trainers, what are some of the things that you picked up on that are going to help you as you go back down this road now with your own horse? You got to be a little bit harder on these horses, which is probably why some of these kind of injuries as you go along the road. You got to be a lot more consistent with your training. I like to give days off a couple of times a week will give a jog day or a walk day. With this horse, I'm a little bit more consistent on it. He'll breathe and then he'll walk and then he'll go right back to galloping and just keeping him on a steady work pattern. Just being very consistent, a lot of endurance stuff is important. And not missing any training. Every day is important. When you have these horses that are running in these longer type races where they need to not only have the endurance but has the speed to go at a high clip for a long period of time so you obviously fine tune it a little bit for each horse, but I think we have a good program here. And I think we're going to be able to give them all your needs. 11 horses in that withers later today. So you have ten others that you have to worry about as of now, barring any scratches, size up the competition for me, right? I know you've run against a few of these before. Yeah, you know, as far as I'm I mean, you have to be every horse in the race, but I got my Chad horse, you know, that's the broker's made in first time out. He's a gun runner out of it says now he won't go and turn miles. So she is going to appreciate the stretch out and obviously second time out. He should improve a little bit there. So always concerning, especially when you got a CB in a race, he's always a tough guy to be and obviously colossi coming in off winning the Jerome beat us to back. So, you know, the one thing that will tell you a lot or that I kind of like about the race tactically is that the three who I think are the contenders, my horse and those two will be our similar kind of forward running styles. So they should be one of the situations that I think we're trying to everybody's running right next to each other near each other. Through the majority of the race and we'll just kind of have to see the best horses at the end. You mentioned your other talented three year old from another mother who was one of the greatest names in the history of horse racing, in my opinion. Give me an update on how give me an update on from another mother. He's doing great, man. He runs like a hole through the wind, man. He whistled the other day and bounce out of it and good order. And I think we're going to come back. In the Gotham March 5th. Good. Good. We constitutional lawyer also be looking now, well, it'd be about the right timing. Would he be looking at that race.

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"ray handle" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

02:38 min | 1 year ago

"ray handle" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"The poll question today, and you can go to HR N on Twitter, horse racing radio network. On Facebook to weigh in, which of this weekend's Kentucky Derby points races has the strongest field. You know, we debated and I asked the answer a couple of weeks ago with Dale and Tim, I asked them which region of the country at this point looks strongest in terms of the Derby contenders or Derby hopefuls that are in that region. And the region that they both felt was the weakest region right now is the northeast. So horses in the Atlantic horses racing at aqueduct, and I think that when you look at the three prep races today, it kind of falls in line with the opinion that down and Tim had. I think the withers of those three is the least strongest field among them. The Robert B Lewis and the holy bull, I think it's close. And I think that those two with this particular pole this morning are going to battle down to the wire. Whenever you have. Top prospects, trained by Bob Baffert on the Derby trail, it's going to get attention. And that's what we have in the Robert B Lewis. And in the holy bull, Dale is there. Todd is there. With a couple of horses that, of course, mow down a gall with Todd giant game with Dale, third in the breeders cup, juvenile, when we last saw him, behind corniche, who was going to be champion two year old. A giant game ran a massive race that day. Huge. And they're back. So they're in the holy bowl in Florida. The Robert B Lewis is stacked, I'm going to be really curious to see what you think about this one, HR and nation, which of this weekend's Kentucky Derby points races has the strongest field. The holy bowl, the withers, the Robert B Lewis, go to at HR N on Twitter, horse racing radio network on Facebook, or you can email the show with your opinion. Let me know. Mike get horse racing radio dot net. All right, a lot of things to get to. It is a very, very busy show. Jam packed. Every segment is full. I kick it off with trainer ray handle. Next, this is the equine forum. Presented by twins buyers on HR N.

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"ray handle" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

04:42 min | 1 year ago

"ray handle" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Actually two today one tomorrow. You also have three Kentucky oaks, points races this weekend. The road to The Kentucky Derby includes the holy bull stakes at Gulfstream, the withers at aqueduct and the Robert B Lewis at Santa Anita. That's tomorrow. The three year old ladies are going to strut their stuff in the forward gal at Gulfstream. The sun coast at Tampa, which is today, and then tomorrow, the last virgin is at Santa Anita. And there are plenty of other races which could produce and add intrigue to the Derby and the oaks picture. But those are the points races, which are going to afford the winner ten points to a spot in the starting gate beneath the twins fires on that first Saturday in May. And if you prefer to keep an eye on the older horses, if that's your thing and you don't quite have Derby fever yet, you're going to have plenty of opportunities in those categories this weekend too. And that includes the grade two San pasqual and the grade two Santa Monica at Santa Anita later today. Owner Jack Wolfe of starlight racing, you've seen him in the winter circle. Many, many times over his career. He's going to be here at 9 a.m. eastern to talk about his very busy weekend. He has 8 rings and Spielberg in the San pasqual. Messier and Wharton in the Robert B Lewis and their star ladies racing is going to be represented by misinterpret in Sunday's ruthless stakes at aqueduct. That is a full slate for Jack wolf. Plus, starlight is involved with the ownership of undefeated sham in southwest winter, newgrange, and we'll talk to Jack coming up at 9 o'clock, certainly no shortage of things to talk about with Jack wolf. Jackie Louis sayes, what a year he's having. If you've been following him down at Gulfstream, he has been on fire. He is the leading writer at Gulfstream's championship meet. And it ain't even close. Is more than 30 wins clear of Paco Lopez in second. His agent Kieran McLaughlin is going to join me at 9 40 eastern to talk about their tremendous run together, which should continue later today. Louis rides ten of the 12 races at Gulfstream, including all 5 greatest stakes. He gets a leg up from Dale Romans, aboard giant game, the 7 two second choice in the holy bull. You're going to hear more from Dale in the final segment of today's show as he joins me every week along with turf writer Tim wilkin. That's not in this week's edition of IS. They answer Kieran also enjoyed considerable success in both the holy bowl and withers during his training career. He and Hall of Fame trainer Nick zito are tied for most wins in the holy bowl with three apiece. He also settled, and this is something I think that goes overlooked sometimes. He also saddled four winners of the withers. That's one behind the long-standing record set by James rose senior from 1883 to 1909. And kirin almost equaled it. If Kieran Louise are going to win today's holy bull, they are likely going to need to get past mo donegal. Who's the three to one? Morning line favorite owned by Jerry Crawford, trained by Todd Fletcher. Jerry is going to be my first guest this morning. Actually, second guess, he'll be here at 8 35. He'll be the second guess. The first guest is going to be trainer ray handle, who sends out constitution lawyer in today's withers at aqueduct. So here's what's here's the guest lineup for today, because as you just heard me allude to, as I was walking through some of the storylines today, this is a busy show, a blockbuster show as I put it on our social media. Ray handle, talking about constitutional lawyer in the withers, kicks things off at 8 15, Jerry Crawford, down to go racing 8 35 followed by calling all three year olds. 9 o'clock is Jack wolf from starlight racing. Then unsung heroes brought to you by woodbine entertainment at 9 20. And at 9 40, Kerry McLaughlin will wind things down before we get to this week's edition of our newest segment. That is where I give you the opportunity to host the show. I turn the keys to the car over to you and you get to be the host of the show at 10 o'clock eastern. It has been a very popular segment the past three or four weeks since launching it. And I think you're going to like today's guest. You have the chance to be the host of the show. Colin and.

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"ray handle" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

07:14 min | 1 year ago

"ray handle" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

"Talk about that race here just a few moments. Constitutional lawyer was a really nice made in winter. I'm always in the withers here. He's drawn post one for ray handle, who's had a sensational aqueduct. I'm always a little leery of the wire to wire muddy track winners. It's got a good speed figure too. But I don't know if that's because I've seen I've been burned by it and you know you hidden scroll you think about and the horses like that. But I almost wonder if that's one of those axioms that's similar to some of these other angles that we hear about that we become obsessed about and think too much about. One thing I'm curious about is the number three smart enough who was second in the Jerome last time out at a big price runs for Barney don't hear a ton about Alfredo Velasquez and Anthony salgado, the jockey who I hadn't heard much of. I'm assuming he's a parks guy just because this horse kind of came from parks and I'm assuming same is probably true for the trainer but they came up and ran well in the Jerome at a big price, give it a shot. Do you, at what point do you get concerned about a writer who maybe doesn't have a ton of experience in like Derby preps and big kind of races? If I think somebody's a decent writer on their circuit, which parks is a solid enough circuit when it comes to purse money, quality forces we've seen horses from parks come out and do big things elsewhere. If you are a competent, good rider at a track like that. I don't feel like that intimidated. But of course, just like anything, you're going to, you know, you've got to consider that in your price. If the horse is a short price, it probably becomes a little easier to not like having a random jockey. If that helps his price go up and you think the horse is just that good, you know, maybe it is interesting, but to me the like I said, the Jerome just came back kinda weak from a speed figure standpoint and I just visually didn't think it was that good of a race. So it was kind of trying to look for someone else from outta there. There's a Harold Wiley horse, coming up from parks. It's got a couple wins. It's probably gonna be a big price, but I don't think that's the one. I'm intrigued a little bit by uno hole for Anthony Dutch and Trevor McCarthy. They ran a real big race in a stallion stakes. One of the remember those half $1 million stallion stakes. Like this horse was a maiden breaker, went to Delta and did run all that good. I'm assuming got privately sold, but maybe not. Maybe they just shipped up to run in New York. But ran pretty good in that steak race. And so, I don't know. This was a tricky race, I thought, 'cause I didn't like the drone, but I didn't love a whole lot else. You know, maybe the maker horse grant them is the one. I don't know. This was a tricky one for me. I looked at for a little bit when I got home, you know, probably a half hour or so. And one of the things that's tough with the weekend discussions on Wednesdays, a lot of times these races are drawn Wednesday, so the optics isn't out yet. And for me, that's become such a big part of the pace analysis and just getting a second impression, especially for maybe, you know, not especially for lightly raced horses, but it is nice to see when they've only made a handful of starts, maybe where the plot kind of has them at. Obviously, you trusted them more. And they'll green light it more when it's a more experienced field. But when you get three or four starts, that's when I kind of get interested in the plot. Why don't we head over to Gulfstream park where the holy pool stakes, grade three quarter million bucks, mile to 16th. So it is the shorter stretch. And I bring that up because to me those races do seem to shape up a little different, right? Like a lot of times it seems like that winning move is made before the quarter pole and you know and all of a sudden somebody turns for home and they're for three or four front or there's a couple that have drawn away and you know I don't know if it's the shorter stretch or what it just seems like they end up going a little quicker, but I mean this is for an early round prep. I mean this is like showdown city, right? Gall it's a big expensive horse for Belmont for the oxo group, nice main win last time out. First time with without the blinks. And a first time a Gulfstream park, which Gulf Stream is I'm real curious about mode donegal and the ones coming from out of town because Gulf Stream is a little different, right? Like don't you feel like horses that go from there to other places sometimes you're a little sketchy about and ones who have not run there and come back, you'll sketch about tis the bomb certainly we'll get a lot of attention in this race. He's been very, very good on the turf. You got to remember his maiden breaking one by a pole, and one by 14 links. Back at Ellis park. Now tell us park going a mile. But followed that up with two big wins on the turf, very good second, even though he was the para mutual winner of the juvenile turf. That was the famous modern games race. I got admit though. What could be a short ish price? I just. I'm bad about this. This is one of those things we talk about is towards players and handicappers like kind of being aware of your biases and stuff. I'm really biased against horses that are switching surfaces, particularly when they're in good form on the other surface. And honestly, I'm probably biased against them just in the sense that I'm like, well, okay, of course we know why they're doing it, right? Tons of money, horses run okay on the dirt that one time, I mean we're in huge, but this number wasn't that big, but it was a second start. So it's not supposed to be that big. It was two year old year. So maybe it kind of was big. I feel like I'm talking myself into this horse now. He came from so far back to in that last race, you know, in a dirt race like this can't imagine he's going to be that far back, but who knows? I don't know. It just feels if he's below 5 to one. If he's three to one, like it just seems so tough to take that price on a horse, who we know is really good on turf. And we know what a maiden race on dirt. Tricky, tricky spot. And it comes up a lot, right? Surface switches are a thing. Giant game showing up in here off that, you know, kind of big effort against corniche and papa cap and the juvenile, but flattened out. They put hung in the comment, but that's noteworthy, but his speed figure came back pretty good and you know he was not that far off what was a somewhat honest pace, 46 over that delmar course, I guess that honest. But he was only two or three links behind that 46. It made that big wide move loomed up and then just find out it was only a third career start. I feel like I feel like there's reasons for optimism, you know, Dale Romans is optimistic. He always is optimistic. Why do barrios in this race for saffy Joseph was a couple of time winner at Churchill before finishing third in the Kentucky jockey club last time I mentioned modena go we had Jerry Crawford on the show, I guess it's been a week and a half ago now and this one training at Palm Beach. It's hard to go against Todd Pluto right now and this horse certainly has some good speed figures coming into the race. Won the remson, so you know he's cutting back in distance. But that leap from two to three. We're talking about two months. That was two months ago the rimson. And but it just seems like the holy bull in particular. We've seen some horses who were really good at two, just not come back and fire in this first spot. It's a different game. All these other horses have matured. Of course, you know, all of them have matured, but some of them mature faster later. Some of them mature earlier, and you know I use that analogy. I have to use this now to a hundred times on the show. But when you're in little league and.

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"ray handle" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

05:40 min | 1 year ago

"ray handle" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Day at the race is tomorrow, FS two from two 30 to four Eastern Time and switch over to FS1 from four to 5, 30. Somewhat similar on Sunday, FS two from two 30 to four 30 and then over to FS1 from four 30 to 5 30 all times eastern standard time. All right, we'll start in New York day where they've got a nice steak on tomorrow's card. It's the $100,000 Franklin square. This is for three year old Phillies who were fold in New York State. They're going to go 6 and a half furlongs on the main track field of 9 here. And this is one of those kind of tough to figure out which way you want to go type of races. The actual morning line favorite is number 6 lilou for Dave duggan and Kendrick Carmouche coming off a resounding maiden win in her most recent start, but that's pretty much what you can say for almost everybody in this field. All of these Phillies with the exception of number two, she's a wild joker are just maiden winners. She's a wild joker is the only one who has multiple wins on her resume. She doesn't look any faster than some of the others in here. So which way do you go? Yeah, it's a pretty wide open event and kind of a difficult race to handicap. Lilou, who you mentioned is the most expensive horse in the race, a $150,000 daughter of practical joke who didn't run great first time out, but it came back in the soft and aqueduct and blew out a field of 9 other runners. To me, it looks like there's some cheap speed in here with thin legs and sandy's garden. I have a little bit of interest in thinking it over for ray handle, who beat ten other rivals in the mud and a race that was taken off the turf at aqueduct in November, went off as the tepid favored, had a little bit of racing trouble and still got to the wire first, but the horse that the horse that I ended up with is flip my ID for Mike maker a horse that's never been on the dirt. I just think flip my ideas run in faster races, Saratoga, Kentucky downs, and at Belmont park. And if the form on turf flips to dirt, I think flip my ID will be in good shape. I trust maker, the horse is one for one in New York bred races, but I don't pick this with a ton of confidence. It's just kind of where I ended up. Wow, I'm surprised to hear that you picked flip my simply for the fact that she has never raced on the dirt. That is not that is not your normal way of going, my Friends. So it's really not. I'm intrigued that you picked her. I had it down to number 5 Moab. I don't know if it's moam or moam or number 9 thinking it over Moab has only raised once. It was in one of those tough New York bread and meat and special weight events at Saratoga and she won very impressively from off the pace that day now coming back off a layoff for horacio depos, who does just fine with these extended layoff runners. But I'm going to pick number 9 thinking it over on top. Pretty much for what you said. I like the fact that she beat ten other runners. I like the fact that she gets the outside post again. She ran in the mud last time out of race that was scheduled for the turf and moved over to the muddy main track. But the thing that intrigues me the most is she was a first time starter for ray handle, who although he's winning a lot more racist now is certainly not a billboard name yet. But she was two to one favorite in that 11 horse field first time out and got the job done so she was rumored to be doing well. She did well that day. And to be honest, I think if she runs that race again, she's going to win again and 9 to two is a square price. I don't think we're going to get 9 to two. So I'm going to go with number 9 thinking it over. I'm going to use the 5 moam as well. Dave going with number 7 flip my ID in the $100,000 Franklin square stakes race number 8 tomorrow on the aqueduct program. Let's jump down to sunny South Florida where they've got two stakes on the Saturday card, both the sunshine classic and the sunshine sprint, sunshine classic goes as race number 6, just a $75,000 purse for this stake. Florida bread four year olds and up going a mile and an 8th on their main track field of 7 going to post here, Dave, and we heard in the intro, the stretch run of last year's point of entry stakes, one impressively by the Todd pletcher trainee shamrock. Well, shamrock, no doubt about it, has been facing the toughest competition by far of anyone in this field. A lot of stakes competition actually running well in graded stakes several times in his career. But he has 21 career starts every one of them was on the turf. And now he's 6 to 5 on the morning line trying the dirt for the first time. This is the first leg of the pick 6 at Gulfstream. I have not yet determined whether that is a play. I'm going to make tomorrow or not. There are only two horses in here. I can get to. I think this field came up pretty weak. It's shamrock, as you mentioned, who has never run on dirt and glory of Florida on the extreme outside who let's be honest last time out didn't run particularly well in a low level stakes race at Gulfstream. But I think has some races in his back in his history and not too far back in his history that the indicate that he's probably good enough at least to beat everyone other than shamrock in here..

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"ray handle" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

05:21 min | 1 year ago

"ray handle" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

"Distance I get, I don't want to say the question because they won going this distance last time. And so I don't think it's a question at this point. The 7 furlongs is still it's kind of an interesting little thing because you're really not asking the horses to go, you know, the big distance. Provocateurs in here for Todd pletcher, a $600,000 yielding purchase that really didn't fire at two races at Belmont came down to Tampa at the end of the year and ran very, very nicely to win last about pleasure is not been out of the exact in 5 starts here at Tampa and I know for sure one of those was because he ran second to his own horse and you can't beat your own horse, right? So I mean, you know what I mean? If you have two horses at the race, you can't really win twice, unless you dead heat. So yeah, just very excited for those couple of races coming up this weekend here. Tampa and I hope you guys will get to tune into those. Over at aqueduct, the feature of the Franklin square. I think the inner borough was supposed to be on that car, but it didn't get card, so I don't know if they moved it around, or if they just raced didn't fill. Or what have you. Early in the Cardinals, we'll talk about the Franklin square in a second, but a little 10,000 claimer in the second race and I was kind of surprised to see belt tap a Siri in there who is a super honest older gelding type, 13 wins from 38 starts 400,000 in earnings and over the spring and summer months was pretty regularly competing at and winning, you know, at that optional 25 one for 40,000 at Churchill fact he was claimed for 40,000 at Churchill drop down to 20 last time out and got beat, but ran well, and now all the way down to ten. And it's certainly a bit of a scary drop. I mean, the thing is, if you win and you get the horse claimed, you make about 16,000 plus the claims of 26, but you got to pay the trainer in the jock, so it's kind of a break even at best for the connections and they have to win and get claimed to get that money back right away. So, you know, sometimes I think that these drops and claiming races at the tracks with the really huge purses like they almost don't mean as much because if you drop from ten down to 5 at a track where the person is still 30,000, you know, you're running against less competition and you're going to make money. So it becomes almost a no brainer. But yeah, that was just horse I remembered from colonials being real, real honest type and just kind of curious the drop all the way down to ten for that one. And I'm not one of those, you know, older horses that have had success. I can't run at lower claiming. They can, and if they're healthy, they should. Like, you gotta put them where they can win. The Franklin square for the New York bread three year old Phillies. And a couple of debut winners. I think there's actually three of them in here that were debut winners four of them that were debut winners against maiden competition and now stepping up to try to take on winners. Sandy's garden is the one that I'm kind of intrigued by. This is a horse who won the bait and special finger lakes by 20. And then lead in the maid of the mist before fading. The main of the miss day, if I remember correctly and I'm pretty sure I do because I was watching this at emerald downs, I'd gone home. I had a doctor appointment before I left for Florida. So I went home and I remember it was not easy to win on the front end that day. It seemed like all the races were kind of shaping up for closers. And this horse had to kind of go a little bit early and I don't know. I feel like I'm gonna be a little forgiving here, so I'm really curious to see how this one does Jackie Davis gets back on board was on board for the big win. New trainer, Joseph Lee, who I'm not extremely familiar with. I haven't been watching a lot of Naya because we run the same time. And so I just kind of the same days. So I've been missing a lot of New York, so some of you guys that are New York experts. But like I said, there's some really good maiden winners in here. Oh my God, meta vili also, the one horse. It was a 40,000 maiden winner for Claudio Gonzalez, now goes for the James Ferrara barn who's pretty low percentage barn. Tom arbitrarily has Sterling silver who won on debut, got a pretty nice number. I got 85 for prison it and shows up back here. Ray handle has thinking it over, who was a very, very nice debut winner. Hitel Bart had a pretty good aqueduct right now. 8 42 for handsome ray handle. But Mike maker has flipped my ID who one on debut at Belmont and then subsequently has been on the turf in one on debut on turf but it's just been awful. And so I'm assuming that they're kind of just trying to try something new in here. But yeah, the New York Brits going off in the Franklin square. So that's going to wrap up our Thursday edition of the program. Really appreciate you guys tuning in all week long, appreciate our guests who joined us this week. Trey styles from Sam Houston. Nick casso from slam dunk racing out in Southern California. I think both good interviews if you want to check those out. You can find them in our archives page, which are housed at edge dot twin spires dot com..

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"ray handle" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

04:59 min | 1 year ago

"ray handle" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

"One thing that will help you is by studying charts and you know. I've recommended a lot especially ever since the inside the pylons interviews initially. That's something i've done so much. More is look at charts In fact the reason. I wanted to talk about exact was because of race when i was at pimlico and i saw there was a i should probably just look up the charts beacon of looking up charts. There was a at saratoga. But i was at pimlico. Does that make sense. I feel like it does. Let me pull it up here. It was a maiden special weight. Event and chad had an entry ramsay here. I okay founded fifth race last. Friday may claiming not meeting special maiden claiming fifty thousand. So chad's got an entry for clarify. Which and they are the one. They are three to two but they were lower than that going to the gate. Fact i think they were about sixty five. There was a decisively clear second choice. It was kenny. Mcpeek course and hot anna who was actually ended up going off his your favourite shockingly enough but was most of the batting was the second choice. Goes off a nickel favourite of it so those to dominate the wagering and there are a clear third and fourth choice. A first time starter. For ray handle name airborne gal and empty net for pretty russell. They're both six to one factor. Both six point three two one exactly the same price You know third and fourth choice and then there's two big long shots so the race runs and i you know i'm just i'm watching fan. I'm sitting in the stands hanging out and the two breaks great goes wire-to-wire that one's kind of looming in contention. They can okay. Here comes the favourite. Put the two ends up. Repelling wins by three-quarters their weekly clear. Everybody else so. It comes in to one six to one over three to two barely second choice but favored most of the way right and with two horses in the exotics. You almost wonder well. These were probably more bet than hot. Anna was just because of the two chances. So i i look at the probables after the race. Go hasn't gone official yet. But i'm after its run and i see that the one two combination is paying ten dollars for a dollar and then i look at the two one combination and it's paying ten dollars for a dollar and i kept thinking to myself. I mean obviously there was some pay ten sixty as it was so. I'm sure that it probably was paying ten dollars or ten twenty but regardless essentially it's paying the same very very little difference whether it came in one two or two one. The one was three to two. The two was six to one. Now if you would played that exact or box set exactly what. You've been a little pissed that you're six to one shot. Who by the way again. It's not like it's the second choice. This is a clear third choice. You've now beat you have the actual favorite out of the top. But if it would if the favorite would've won at the wire. I'm sure most people who boxed one to would've thought oh man have been so much better to a no same price. The reason i bring that up is a to show the importance of looking at the problems. And i know the probables can change problems for executives can change just like problems. I mean. we'll we'll pays her locked in. Probables can change. And that's one of the things i like about. You know the will pay. Like i said they are a you know after the previous race. You know what the pick three pay. Now if there's a late scratch your favorite gets moved. It can't change but you know there's a hard number of combinations with the problems. Some guy puts fifty dollars one hundred dollars or whenever depending on the track exact district one way. It's skew that probable for quite a while probably to the last few minutes again if at saratoga hundred bucks ain't doing it but you know what i'm saying and so the the utilizing the probables i think is a really important part of exact a wagering because exact as there's not nearly the combinations that there are in trifecta 's or pick fours and pick five even ten horse field only has ninety exact combinations. I explain this a little while ago. But it's probably a good reminder. Just take the number of horses in the field and multiply by one less. There's ten horses in the field. Go by nine ninety combinations. There's eight horses by seven fifty six combinations so to you know to have to box the whole field in an eight horse race is only fifty six dollars and the reason i bring that up is because is to show you so. Many people rely on the box. It exact isn't trifecta right. It's a very traditional kind of play and what you're doing is you're giving the same amount of money. The same weight to all of the two three four five six seven eight horses that you.

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"ray handle" Discussed on At The Races With Steve Byk

At The Races With Steve Byk

07:30 min | 1 year ago

"ray handle" Discussed on At The Races With Steve Byk

"Too wild on the front end last time so he was a little conservative with her early. There was the pace in there in the race. Third draft caught misspell. And i thought that miss delicious kind of took the worst of it so i think she's gonna run quite a bit better. I thought that earth strike was up against it in the race where militias with second to nbc. I figured she would run better. I think the mile and an eighth rosario staying on board are both positives for her community. Adjusted was probably ran a very even race last time after running well to break her maiden. I don't know how good that race was. I'm a little concerned as to to the quality of it. I remember thinking afterwards that i was shocked at how well cicero tool had run. So i'm a little unsure of what to do with the with community adjusted but I count evanger on the outside has a little bit of a look to and clearly. It's a race where i don't. I don't have a strong opinion by any means that. I'm going to be relatively think i i don't have any choice. And you know the town avenger question at a glance when when you see a horse win at five and a half and did it in closing fashion and did it you know with with some with some real flash and lynch was confident enough to go ahead and then and try her in the tappin and she did not disgrace herself but it the way she ran does make you wonder if the distances what she wants a and brian i certainly trust his judgment but now he stretching her out to a mile and an eighth. In here You know but she does have closing sprinter speed. So castellano gets on board for the first time and for all the conversation about johnny struggles The air is not winning. you know. he's feeling his way with the new agent. And i you know. He's he's i think looking to string some wins together to look at a little ongeri. I mean there. There is not too many easy cross outs. In this much no virtually not in fact it. And i think i agree exactly what you said about town adventure. I mean some of the one of the main reasons why i like. Toby's heart weeks ago in the late george is because she ran a race that count adventures. Running line looks very similar. She made up ground in a race with the the pace otherwise completely held together. And so there's a. There's a lot to like. They're one of the things about is. The price has had a. He's had a rough go of it. And you know. I i don't. I'm not terribly surprised. Because he really writing that well at at belmont but He's gonna end up on the right horses eventually. Start to win a few more races and this feels like a horse. That really has a look at a at a big price. I i've got i've got a mention. And i you know not to try to distill everything down to Figures but as a third graph user a. There's some there's some horses in here who are developing this is a race. I'm gonna. I'll i'll make this suggestion because it is a group of three year old restricted company. I'm gonna tell people take this Set a pp's you print out or however you maintain your your library. This is a really strong group who are in the midst of still developing. And there's i mean there's obviously horses that have already participated in stakes in here but this is a group at four and later You're going to hear from a lot of the horses in this group. Because when i see the kind of patterns. They've got that are just so healthy. I mean almost every one of these Miss delicious has has strung together this year. Three developing line a performances. Liz sheen is ready to step forward for graham ocean a horse. We haven't discussed yet The in wilkes horse l. s. forte Is she may be ready to. I love horses like this. That have just broken their maiden and facing winners. For the first time i mean. Sometimes that light goes on and she makes a forward move she's You know she can impact this this. I mean this is allowance for one hundred and three thousand but you could put an l. by it and make it a listed steak and and nobody would bat an i know for sure. It's a really really good group and You know this this one other than groups that we've seen so far going back to win technical analysis one second week at belmont There are some good voices in it and you could see. I think one of the things. You're you're sort of alluding to also. Is that a lot of the good horses industries during the care of trainers that are going to allow them the time to to really develop true with you know. Resources like community adjusted potentially an earth. Try who's run well and who stakes place yourself. Talking to surprise you decide wars desert a lot of them look like is it horses that you'd see in the valley view at keeneland in the fall. And the maybe there's no mrs revere this year churchill you could see that potentially becoming sources over the winter second level allowance for state bred. Fillies is the start of the second half the late. Pick three and the fourth leg of this big pick six carryovers sequence hundred and eighty seven thousand. Nick this this should. this should hit a million. Yes i would think so. It's a couple of days help. And i think i think you'll get more people balked. Well the second level allowance. I asked rudy what he thought about Honey money and or not Honey money Yes trent locke. And she she just cleared the first level Downstate and You know he he. He thought that That she was capable and kind of getting test. Against you know some some season. I i would. I would say more experienced types. I mean she's kind of less exposed than the rest of this crowd but This is a good little group ends. You know and the funny thing is i. Think the recent one other than winners actually better than the two of them. And and i i mean that's he blew is the horse to beat on paper and she arguably ran a winning race last time being stuck behind austin's aid but you know she's she's no great shakes and you've got worse turned walking and diva banker and honey money that all one at one other than level last time and they all ran races in terms of speed figures. And you know just overall performance that make you think wow they could really be competitive with With two other than so it makes it that much more interesting. And i think the mistake here is conceding the race to tibet the blue. Because though she might be a little bit better than all of them you know. I'm not going to be surprised. If we see one of my roxie girls kind of performances from the winter. That would make her. Some candidate and diva bankers. Clearly in good form kinda reminds you a little bit of Timely tradition when ray handle had her and she got good very quickly. And you wanna you know you wanna you want to pay attention to these things when these horses get good and they get going you know. They're often very very tough. So i thought this was another one. That was really difficult. And i didn't have a particularly great. Read a as right now. I have written down to three four. And now i can see myself easily finding.

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"ray handle" Discussed on At The Races With Steve Byk

At The Races With Steve Byk

07:42 min | 1 year ago

"ray handle" Discussed on At The Races With Steve Byk

"On paper figure to get by. But they don't and i surprised myself by eventually landing on lego for nile seville coming up From fair hill and this is kgo sapper mayor that it hasn't gone the distance but she has had a steady diet of of to turn turf routes she gets lewis is and i i can sense and you know going back to that delaware win in september i could see louis getting her on an easy lead and nursing it along and then watch for sayas in that third turn to suddenly burst away and all of a sudden everybody's gonna get desperate and they might be hard pressed reeling her in a meeting. You also should note that. She's you know she's cleared this condition. So she's in for the eighty She's a three time winner. And i i like that as well so that was my. That was my alternate reality When it came to the eighth race. So i went home and cat's pajamas primarily. I can't take lovely lucky Off of that layoff going. This this At sixty five just can't do it. And i just was leaning on kind of the class maybe mitigate the the situation off the layoff and whatnot but certainly that is not one that i would lean onto a single on may ticket by any means so i can't disagree and i like your topic. I looked at the same kind of pace scenario. they're just went in different directions. But i think you have a clever idea there particularly if that morning line holds up. The ninth is a first level allowance. Fillies and mares. They're going to go a mile and an eighth. I said this on opening day. We're getting a steady diet of these main track. Circuits one time around The old spot again. I was kind of master. The three one a six and seven ice princess on top second off a little bit of a layoff from march until june. But i think on a best effort this source belongs. Don't think horsa locked though. I tilted towards it as the most likely winner but not by much played. Hearts slightly raced Tyler gaff leon looking forward to really seeing what tyler. Jeff leeann does it this meet. I think he's going to have a good meat Comes off a win on this source donald. Churchill the break. The maintenance was clearly the best race of the lightly raced for race career so far so i think this horse is moving in the right direction. Comes out of a maiden breaker that also may have been benefited from the stretch out to to turn so this source may appreciate the the distance again this afternoon so played hard as i say i have ice princess and top to me. It's very close between these two love and love in the third spot Has early speed. Maybe the catch me. If he can't horse although they played hard as some speed to a couple others maybe out challenging but love and love will certainly be prominent early. And i think the past couple racists seems in good form kinda logical as well subsidiary at a price twelve one on the morning line would argue anybody offer that one taking a pop in the pick place but three one eight one one eight six and seven subsidiaries by Second choice and is my best value play. I went Three seven six. One of the the entry Phil bauer and. I'm rather the talk about the winter. I think services is something of a lock here. And i'm gonna single i sprint says okay. I'll explain why in a second. But i do want to mention something about subsidiary because i noticed something that that struck me off. She comes into this without talk. Joel rosario and rosario road last time. And i figured well gosh. Let's see who did. Rosario ron anderson put subsidiary on. He didn't put rosario on anybody. The fact is that louis. Rodriguez castro is it. Castro rodriguez rodriguez castro. I think it's rodriguez castro. i i could never. He's coming back from that injury that the the last week or so it's got nicked up and today's i ride back and he's put back aboard and the notice I think are are consciously trying to help him get back and back with a win here. he rides exercise rights from the morning. I actually saw davey This morning is agent. actually they think about it I thought i thought that was notable that they probably could have gone back to to rosario today and yet they put the kid back on hoping to get him. You know a showcase performance. All of that said the reality of this race is. You've got four horses. This is a rarity you look portela and love and love played hard and subsidiary right the five six seven eight. Today's date those are all horses. That are are good. Show speeds this all. Just play a direct ortiz's hands. How is ice. Princess who already who already is formidable. She's also gonna pay setup. I think she's i think she is a a real strong. Lean actually hasn't had a win. Since what last february. I hear you i mean i have around top. I'm i'm right with you. Just like i say i. I wasn't as strong hers. Your fair enough gets us to a very tricky nightcap maiden state bird maiden claims five and a half on the grass. I originally had the seven on top. I believe that scratched. So i'm now twelve four and two Went to stellar mars outside stella marrs outside joel rosario arianna turf sprint. You can't go wrong. There for ray handle comes out of a break from february to june and ran second in a similar event down. Appel mont should have some fitness off of that and Run well today again. It's a bonus staff joel ario turf sprinting in the saddle tom. Morley has social world. Who i think comes in and some good form a little bit of a job in the last couple doesn't give you a lot of confidence but i. I think you could make the argument that the last race was the best of the career moving into the the claiming ranks. And so we get another situation like that today. An aura in the third spot for jim baen three start. So far. they've been okay. I think comparatively speaking. They're kind of moving in the right direction. Particularly after the last race to fit nicely with this particular bunch Once i got down to third spot. I probably could appointed two or three others where i would have equal confidence but up twelve foreign too well and i'm twelve four to twelve four As well but also the eight. And i did use the eight as a as a. That's oblique de derek. Ryan comes in from jersey And and he's got. He's got stalls out to belmont but over the years is he. He hasn't he has struggled to win in new york. So no reason to be shy saying that. I that race down at mama that fits with everybody here. he runs. She runs back to that..

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"ray handle" Discussed on At The Races With Steve Byk

At The Races With Steve Byk

05:19 min | 1 year ago

"ray handle" Discussed on At The Races With Steve Byk

"Allowance dries thou dips in. The forty nine to devilish mood is okay for ray handle. Give me some. Oh for todd. Pletcher didn't bring that up with him yesterday. We had too many stay courses to discuss without an maiden specials discuss without getting into the potential clamours Amazon dot twelve to one for engelhardt chris. Engelhardt absalom Seventy two seventy two morning favorite and absolutely capable so there's at least seven horses That are eligible to win that seventh race. And that's the race that is gonna make the late sequence very top. There's a maiden special for two year old fillies which is interesting. Brad cox that if the horses we talked about with brad yesterday that Including a at indiana. We'll talk to bill downs later. Got the two stakes there and a nice sequence. They were on the turf yesterday. So the it seems like the shelbyville cloud may have abated for for at least for a little bit interesting. That's an interesting group. Been the sixth race. Starts the the pick five today. So then you know the obvious horses between let's be clear and there's amos coming back with take the back roads who didn't have a great clean start take Beside take the back roads. Next tuesday for a friend out gold and kelly breen ron. Mcwethy got the first on the rail g money live or live and Seems okay orlando not has got a first or with manny. Franko called gabrielle. Miracle twelve to one that i included Kind of a work. Not just a work tab note where there was some indication that there's some talent there but also a sibling no There there. there's a little bit of in that That's a this some talent in that family. So the sixth and seventh. If you're playing. The maltese today picks x. Pick five pick four second-half a card You've also got a good state bread. Second level allowance going short on the turf and i do want to get back to that and the i knew without I come spring it on them. But i knew that Without further discussion yesterday That i probably. I probably should have shot him a picture of the work. I i started doing on this topic. Because as i mentioned so far three races that are that qualify as state bread long on the grass. Male female doesn't matter an and even in terms of last year and previous years. And i'm gonna keep going through and building this this document as it were So far you're looking at seven to one sixteen thirty on the three races last year. Twenty races average mutual the eight to one winter eighteen fifty seven was the was the out and it's You know interestingly favorites one six of the twenty races so thirty percent so not you know not too far below normal favoritism scenario but i'll run them down bush at the beginning of the meat last year. Eleven and a half to one motte ten to one maker. Seventeen to one seven two two for ambro fourteen to one mcpeek. You had a one to two jimmy. Jerkins favourite bond had a two to one favorite carlos martin over nine to one chad brown. Two engelhardt eleven to two chad summers. Thirty six to one clermont had a five to two favorite hennig..

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"ray handle" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

02:19 min | 1 year ago

"ray handle" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

"I was nice to have a new voice in person on the show that we've never had. I feel like we've been pretty good over the years about you. Know getting a lot of the younger up and coming generation of trainers on you know it. We've had a few of the big names of you know the the middle aged older generation guys. You know we've had here in chad brown on the show. We've had steve asmussen on the show over. The years wants pletcher still my white whale. That's still the that's still the guest. I want to get on the most. I gotta i gotta. I gotta start that the petition to get the todd. Stir on maybe togas. Not the best time. Because he's so busy. Hit him up during belmont fall week. But you know i mean. I think we've had. I mean you know think of the swayze's and the ray handles jason barclays and the cherie devos an orange. Kassy's had a lot of those kind of what i would call up and coming younger trainers folks who were you know five six years maybe less maybe a little more into their career and obviously going to be. You know some of the stars of tomorrow. I mean training. Horses is obviously one of those careers in sports. Obviously two different. you know. you're more of a manager but you know you can do it for decades. If you're able to have the success and stuff. I mean it is something that allows you to be around for a long time so it is fund. I think to follow the career paths. And you know we've been going at this now for almost six years and so we've had a chance to do that. We knew we had norm on last week. And we talked to normally work for his dad. And when tappin was out. And it's like that's been a while. Now since since tappin was Doing her thing so anyway. If you guys have guests suggestions people like to here on the show or any questions or any comments. You can always email me. Beam podcast. gmail.com kept promise. I'll get him on but a lot of times. What i've found with the suggestions is you know. I generally kind of i know and see what's in my world whether it's social media or the tracks i watch or what have you so it's always good to to get your opinion because you know you might have is on a different circuit or different group than than i do so being podcast gmail.com. We will see guys back tomorrow. Everybody a great rest of your wednesday. We'll talk some saratoga opening day on tomorrow's show everybody good night..

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"ray handle" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

01:38 min | 2 years ago

"ray handle" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Have people that work for that. Yeah that works. This is very good about that. Would love reached out to ray a couple of times. He doesn't respond was very funny. Littered i i heard about that actually I reached out to rave in fact somebody sends me every time ray win steak. Somebody sends me thing. Why don't you have ray handle on. You haven't never had him on. And i sent doesn't respond you. I listen i very fuzzy bags. This day i die. God well because she gets angry that i don't call her enough. I'm i'm gonna get worked up until you should be afraid of that. get out. she's funny. I could ask you about some other the winters but from the weekend. But who else did you pick that one. We only ran. You know twenty rate is supposed to fix a about five of them probably somewhere there..

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"ray handle" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

01:51 min | 2 years ago

"ray handle" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"And i'll say it was a anybody that saw that december twenty six race from this igloo spill. That you're talking about for jonathan thomas. That was just an eye. catching performance. I pick a little. I don't know that she'd be sort of the work competition. She but i mean that she looks special that night and i'm definitely going to be interesting to see if she you know how much the she showed under jiminez. She does have a little. Bit of like a freaky. She looked a little bit freaky. When in that right. I'll say that about igloo Was was really something to see i. I was impressed that night. Well and i'm gonna mention two other horses. At least two others out of this ray handle i if he went ahead and shipped ray handle enter. Just read it The constitution philly. The maiden breaker was pretty impressive and earned a nice fig and wait for nairobi. Ray hernandez That technically was moved up. But but certainly ran a winning race breaking the maiden in mid-january and there was one other horse. Actually in here. That i'm overlooking i. I didn't want to shortchange jason cook delta gamma cats of vancouver philly that is a maiden but just missed in debut from a difficult post. So this thing This is well worth watching tonight. Nine sixteen for the cincinnati trophy and The boys go off at eight sixteen in the battaglia memorial. So there's good maiden race in between turf way back in action and moving toward what should be A contentious Jeff ruby when the time comes given the points increase and the money involved In the ruby so Turf way tonight. what else.

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