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Ray Anderson: Arizona State University Athletic Director

The Playbook

21:59 min | 1 year ago

Ray Anderson: Arizona State University Athletic Director

"On this episode of the playbook i have arizona state university athletic director ray anderson he may have graduated from harvard law school but he has whereas in knows the importance of radical humility and how to build a collaborative culture within a hyper competitive space not only through great facilities but even more important through people in teamwork join me through all of this and more on the playbook entrepreneurs the playbook each week. I bring you some some of the greatest athletes celebrities and entrepreneurs to talk about their personal and professional playbook to success in what made them champions on the appealed and in the boardroom. I'm your host and c._e._o. Of sports one marketing david meltzer dave meltzer c._e._o.'s sports marketing with with entrepreneurs the playbook and i have i shouldn't say an old friend but a dear friend ray anderson the athletic director of arizona arizona state university the sun devils and we're here right in the conference room ready discuss something that i'm most interested in is ray welcome to the playbook but i wanna know the playbook to become in appalachia director. Dave i tell you man <hes> <hes> i didn't invent it. That's for sure the typical route. Is you know through administration you start sometimes as intern turn you wake up through the ladder but kinda in the same department or certainly in the same <hes> flow path <hes> i wasn't that traditionalist league <hes> and so i ended up here <hes> through security of course most mostly through being an agent then being with team being at the league always spend been a lot of time on campus <hes> because we represented coaches and when you're a evaluating <hes> players you're scouting you're evaluating spent time on campus but never with the intent thought that i'd be an athletic director <hes> at all right but you know i always say to kids when they asked me how to be sports sports agent and said you had to develop the skills and gain the knowledge and have the desire because you know if you don't really want it somebody else really. Does you got that blue playing sports but you went to law school. Why did you go to law school. I went to law school because my my my father who passed away early had planned to be a lawyer as a young boy coming up <hes> through nine years old <hes> once he passed away that began came my focused i wanted to be a lawyer didn't didn't really understand what it meant but learned over time through teachers and others who who schooled me about that <hes> and so i went to law school <hes> with the thought that i'd be a lawyer you're not with the thought that i'd be sports agent <hes> or litigator <hes> or certainly not an athletic director <hes> but i went to law school because it was something something that was kind of ingrained in me as a young boy and you went to some significant schools. I was joking around the first time we interviewed years back. I said it's hard hard for me to give this interview because i've been rejected my favorite squander at stanford. I apologize to be here but they rejected me for undergrad in law school. Actually the thought had a chance for law school but then you out do yourself. <hes> going to stand for you go to harvard law school. I was fortunate <hes> and it all started really with the folks when you're in grade school and junior high and high school in my case <hes> had really taken an interest in me personally <hes> and so just weren't we're not gonna let me falter academically academically and always stressed that so <hes> fortunately i was able to get into stanford <hes> in in do well enough academically to actually apply admitted to harvard law school so i've been very lucky very fortunate. <hes> both great institutions and i'm really glad i went to both of what do you think the advantages you know. All my siblings went to harvard penn columbia. But what do you think the true advantages of graduating from harvard law school competitor like two lane it. Is it a long term effect. Or what do you think the number one advantage of going to school like harmony. Well no disrespect to to we all know the top the perception inception <hes> is that if you're able to go to school like that in graduate <hes> then <hes> people give you a significant benefit of the doubt apt to start to start with is just kind of ingrained in so <hes> you go into literally every situation with probably a competitive edge eh <hes> that is <hes> attached to graduating from a place like harvard or yale or princeton or stanford or <hes> or certainly a sister when you're there though because people have a higher expectation you've ever feel that because as as a boss i've hired kids from the ivy leagues and and i allow that same perception to happen and then i have higher expectations but yet there's still twenty four years old. I think somehow you know myron rolle. Remember meiring your favorite clients at rhodes scholar but i forgot i forgot that he's twenty one so although he's the first client i've ever had to say mr meltzer query and asked me questions that we're really deep. I still forgot that he's twenty one and i think you you know there is looking at my siblings who all went into the schools. They got great advantages the start but there's more pressure on them because people were like oh. That's the harvard kid. He's summa okay well. There are some expectations that go along with the privilege of going to a place like that <hes> and that's just part of the and you have to take take that on and so yes when i left harvard law school and i went to my firm initially <hes> law firm in atlanta georgia. I don't think there's any question that folks looked at me and said hey. That's the the harvard guy you expect a little more in terms of the quality of the work and even worse for us. You married a woman named buffy yeah so you go to stanford harvard law school where mary girl named buffy there. Your expectations are like who is this guy gets like preppy be privy to the to the hill exactly so that <hes> but no those are great opportunities to <hes> get higher education at places that <hes> very frankly people will give you <hes> like i say the benefit of the doubt they'll give you a little more <hes> leeway as a matter of fact but it also comes with expectations dictation. I'm glad i had the opportunity to deal with that. I i am as well. Now you go to law from litigator. What skills do you think you learned the most litigating that help you today as an eighty <hes> preparation <hes> in the <hes> the realization that there's just no substitute for just hard work work in preparation <hes> and so and <hes> a lawyer's role particularly litigator where discovery and research and preparation way saying advance of ever getting in front of arbitrator or panel or jury is absolutely the most important thing you do so <hes> that that translates really into everything. I did my business life but certainly here. <hes> preparation is is key. It's it's vital doing due diligence doing your research getting the appropriate rotate input getting ready and then when you make the case <hes> hopefully you're very prepare <hes> and you're more able to deal with surprises or curve balls etc etc so preparation is absolutely forms now on the administrative side like you said the traditional route is to build that administrative experience understand the culture of the institution and build your reputation within. There's a budgetary side sure that you don't really get get her back. I was litigator myself and you know the reason. I wanted to be illiterate. I didn't want to deal with those details. Afterwards right. I wanted sure other kids that do the research for me. I wanted to speak and how did you develop up those skills because budget huge businesses you for you well along the lines. You get a real appreciation for accounting and finance and law school. You take an accounting course you. You should <hes> part of what i did <hes> to advance my opportunity is at i actually studied financing at one point. I had a series twenty two. I think it was was a license from that. I got back in massachusetts underachiever by taking additional courses and financing in management and investments <hes> but the real trick is to know that you come into place <hes> and you know what you don't know <hes> which means you then look to your finance folks in your internal accountants. <hes> can you give those folks <hes> a lot of responsibility and a lot of runway <hes> to do it right. Keep you informed and then you delegate to people people with the appropriate expertise but never ever just completely delegating in saying you just do it. I'm not interested. I'm always interested in being being briefed <hes> and kept in the loop so when the final decisions are made i'm all over them but in terms of the expertise <hes> in the nuances of finances is an accounting and budget etc leave to the experts are part of my team and you do really great job including one of your latest hires right yet. You hired a friend someone that you had to work with at the n._f._l. Frank came came with ms our chief financial officer for sun devil athletics <hes> <hes> in my years at the n._f._l. Running football operations he was the finance budget leader for my unit for eight years so i certainly we went back to <hes> someone that i knew and trusted <hes> who could come in here and culturally we were seeing. He knew what my expectations were. He could come in here and and get up to speed very quickly on what goes on in a athletic <hes> budget in finance arena not very different very frankly and what goes on at the n._f._l. Pro level so you you go and get really good people around you then you delegate to them. Let them do their job and you know what you you got a chance to be in pretty good. How old were you when i look at you. I think of radical humility and it's something that i had do do my career in my thirties. When i retired tired in was an idiot and didn't humbly tell you right now. I wasn't radically humble so i wrote those two words on my nightstand and i said from today on i'm gonna wake up and pray to god for ten and people can help because that's the way that humility starts for you with all the pride agree harvard stanford in buffy all the pedigree you have you you know to understand which took me later on in life to understand that if i elevate others i elevate myself and lee had this great saying be kind to your future self and it seems to me from her to frank and others around you that you understood that much younger than i did. Where where did the humility come from mm-hmm who helped inspire you well first of all thank you for the compliment radical humility and <hes> album believer that <hes> you are at your best when when you have the best around you in terms of teammates and support group and if you have that you got a chance to be wildly successful because you're not just depending on and yourself you're depending on a team and i learned that early on in that started very frankly with my <hes> freshman high school coach guy named lloyd parks and <hes> who actually when we showed up as real cocky junior hockey to beat everybody and football baseball basketball we come into high school in our football coaches lloyd loyd parks and who is a marine who landed on iwo jima and survived that war and then ended up being coming back and being a meal military marine instruction officer so when we showed up there was lloyd parks all six two of them you know i shaved in grizzled <hes> and wiggins it was a very good example coaches paul wiggins we showed up and he made sure that across the board we understood. You're only as good as all of you. Are there are no stars it is about team and he really drove who've that in us and in me <hes> and i give coach parks and more credit than anybody in my life or driving home that you'd better be humble. <hes> and you better be appreciative of everyone around you because without them. You know what you will die. You will not be successful in that that that drove it it from then on. I was always about okay. What's my team. Look like <hes> everyone's gotta roll <hes> in success <hes> and that's kind of been my marching orders <hes> <hes> and that's why i very frankly i've had some success because it's about the team delegating not micromanaging <hes> and then giving everybody when when it is appropriate. Give everybody the risk but also give everybody the we're awards and what do you in that mary oxy. What do you instill empower to allow them to make decisions. We're not micro. Managers would values that you you know for me. I understand par people value so they can make their own decision. Based on the values is that we have as a collective. What values are the ones that you look at. When you're empowering your associates employees etc the thing we say about around here all the time david music culture is just not important culturally is everything <hes> so we <hes> <hes> we we we said in advance a culture of <hes> teamwork <hes> no selfishness <hes> think through unintended consequences for the good of the group not just for the self <hes> and then core values like you know what <hes> family really does come first <hes> and work life balance really is important <hes> and <hes> communication education and very honest genuine consistent communication is really critical to our way forward and those are really our core core values and we just tried to instill <hes> and then live those not just talking but living by example up and down our chain of command ed at one of the things i noticed different here. I'm blessed to have gone to tons of universities and blessed with friendships like yours but the one thing that stood out when i walk through this office was the one word i don't see often. I see integrity. I see commitment. I see consistency right. I see pursuit any wooden type of of of success s. triangle but very rarely do. I see straight out on the wall graduation because i like to me i went to occidental college because it's the only place to let me play football football but my mom loved it because when i was recruited by saying he goes eight and other places and they talked about their graduation rate with players and my mom went to occidental coach we'd off at at the time very winning coach league said she said well how many players graduate he said seventy percent and she said only seventy percent and he said no no. I'm sorry seventy percent go on to graduate school school. I'm sorry everyone graduates right. That's the feeling and energy expectation i get from. You and we're very proud of that because they are student. Student athletes student is first and foremost in <hes> through gene boy who runs our office of student athletics development <hes> and andrea laura alonzo jones down there. They've done a marvelous job. <hes> for years now before i came on board and in advancing the fact that graduation is first and foremost and then certainly in my time here we have stressed that time and time again that <hes> the academic pursuits here are first and foremost we want student athlete to accept that across all sports <hes> graduation is keeping because we're in the business development were in the leadership development business <hes> and if they're not graduating from here we have failed miserably so graduation and graduation rights in in <hes> a._p._r. Academic progress rates and reports for us are critically important to what we're doing so graduation is paramount otherwise we've let these young men and women down and we fail miserably and we shouldn't be right and i my favorite n._c._a. Commercial was the one that said two hundred thirty three thousand student athletes and only so many are going to be professional professional something else and you know part of that tribe and so so are you where you know that professionalism and powers and changes and has great social impact which is important to both which leads me to a question so many people you want to get involved in sports and i try to tell them. Sports is not a profession. It's an industry right so develop skills knowledge and find what you have a passion for for and it's okay to be profitable with that passion. What advice would you give someone that would like to get into college administrator letting director what skills you know. I'm not going to talk about where you go or weapon. Really what skills would you advise him to start developing at a younger age well they have to in my view be willing all in to be a utility player in don't limit your entry point. <hes> be willing literally to relocate <hes> to do whatever you're asked to do. You've got to get in the door because it's an industry where everybody wants to get in but everybody is not willing to do whatever takes in terms of developing skill set and getting started to get in <hes>. They want to narrow down their focus. I want to be an athletic director and a powerful school on the west coast. Is everybody else you know. You've got to be willing to go. Be a i hear administrator at a division three school up in delaware right. If that's what it takes so <hes> <hes> cast a wide net be willing to you essentially sacrifice <hes> some of the comforts of home if you will to get out there and really be able to demonstrate first of all your passion ashen and then your ability <hes> to think outside of the norm outside of the box is the cliche <hes> and be willing to do some different things a lot. The first time entry level folks. Maybe aren't willing to do right and when you don't your entry point it involves something called patients which the older we get the more we get the young we are. It's very difficult i. I'm going to steal that from you. I'll give you credit. That's i love. Don't limit your your point of entry entry point last question all the things things you have been able to achieve both personally with your family and here at the school in n._f._l. And even as a lawyer and agent <hes> what the legacy that you'd like to leave <hes> i you know legacy is a is a is a is a big word and sometimes the concept of it. <hes> is a little bit <hes> a shocking to me <hes> but what i would tell you that <hes> when i leave this earth i really would just like folks to think back and say you know what at guy made a difference th- that that guy made my life for some other folks lives at i'm aware of <hes> just a little bit better <hes>. He just made a difference because he cared. That's that's really what i'd like to leave <hes> in in <hes> when i when i leave from here david that they look pretty cool guy he kind of made a difference. That's all i look to do from what i've heard around. I think that's already happening so you're on the great. I love the fact that not only have you made a difference but you brought into this podcast. The one person that made a huge difference in your life was was your high school football coach. There's no question as we have the same feeling towards mine. Although you know our careers you've been these crazy appearing allow it. I say did anyone out there. That's an entrepreneur teacher mentor. You can change one life and end up you know somehow. Participating and extraordinary lives even though you may not feel what you're doing is extraordinary. It has an extraordinary impact on my <hes> coach parks and he went on a <hes> a what do they call it a reunion with his iwo jima emma colleagues who survived they went back to iwo jima. <hes> and this is years later. I still have a little <hes> sandwich sandwich bag of sand that he brought me back from the beach of iwojima. When he came back he sent me a <music> a bag of san with with a note <hes> reminding me <hes> of all the things we had <hes> done in the times we had spent talking together because he kind of took me on this kind of a surrogate son knowing my story <hes> and i still have it in my <hes> my safe deposit the box and i thought i was back home. Those little baggie of <hes> sand from you a team of from coach luis in a bag. That's awesome well. I really appreciate <music>. You're busy. All pac. Twelve oaks runs in my family but we're trying to make strides graduating kids. I think that's what's most important absolute so i appreciate our pleasure. Don't limit yourself. Be kind to your future self. I'm here with ray anderson. This is dave meltzer with entrepreneur nor the playbook by hope. You enjoyed this week's episode of the playbook as much as me on a personal note. I just wanted to thank everyone for making the playbook such a success. Don't forget get to continue it by sharing. 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Flooring manufacturer cuts carbon pollution

Climate Connections

01:30 min | 10 months ago

Flooring manufacturer cuts carbon pollution

"I'm doctor. Anthony License and this is climate connections in the nineteen seventies. When the late Ray Anderson started started carpet company called interface. He did not consider its climate impact but Aaron Meson of interface says two decades later one of the first green building. Louis projects was being built in California and we were trying to sell her flooring products into that and the customer was asking us. What is your company doing for the environment. The answer answered then was nothing but it was a turning point for Anderson and he began making climate change a priority. He challenged the business to set a course. Two zero impact right now. Almost ninety percent of interfaces energy comes from renewables it's also slash water use and landfill waste by about ninety percent most most recently the company developed carpet backing from plant oils and resin plants absorb carbon as they grow so me then says by using them as a raw material interface. Interface can make products that store more carbon than is used to produce them. She challenges other companies to follow interfaces example and make solving global warming a priority already. We need to greatly accelerate the ambitions of companies on carbon. If we can do it as a billion dollar flooring manufacturer anyone can do it Climate connections is produced by the Yale Center for Mental Communication. Learn more at Yale Connections Dot Org.

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05/27: Mac McClung picks Texas Tech, but will he be eligible? Plus: Pissed off Bobby Hurley, and remembering Eddie Sutton's HOF career

CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

1:14:04 hr | 4 months ago

05/27: Mac McClung picks Texas Tech, but will he be eligible? Plus: Pissed off Bobby Hurley, and remembering Eddie Sutton's HOF career

"Hey there it's scary Peres. Wins Day may twenty seven two thousand twenty welcome back to the CBS Sports College Basketball Podcast? Where we sometimes discuss cable fighting an leaky black norlander is here with me. And I guess we'll just start with what feels like the most significant news of the day. Macau has transferred from Georgetown to Texas Tech. Another nice pickup for Chris. Beat AUBURN MEMPHIS. Usc BYU ARKANSAS. In wake forest land the instagram sensation so norlander. We'll get right into it. Here's the question. Do you think Mac McClellan will get a waiver to play immediately in Lubbock? No I don't believe that McClellan will get the waiver you have I believe what is the definitive column on Magma Clung to Texas Tech? That's available right now on the Internet. Let me see you back up one with the column but to just keep in mind for everyone that there is another player that's guard that's high profile. That already transferred out James Kinjo he's at Arizona. We don't yet know if Kim just further along the waiver clearance process than MC lung. But it wouldn't surprise me perish if Akin Joe is further along if whatever decision he gets from the waiver process was the same as MC lungs. But the answer your question. I don't believe that Maclean will cleared. I think he will sit a season and then play for Texas Tech in two thousand twenty one. Twenty two twenty two. But what say you and you touched on it in a column so enlightened thought. The first thing I would say is that it's it's baffling to me. How people in our profession report on these transverse because one one nine Grad train? Okay so everybody understands the deal with transfers your Grad transfer. You're going to transfer. You're GONNA play immediately clear. Cut and and then there's everybody else and everybody else by rule is a quote unquote sit out transfer. So it's just wild to me to watch like one guy who was a quote unquote sit out? Transfer were announced he's committing to some school and people go you know. He has committed to this school. He has to sit out next year. But you'll play. He'll sit out one and have to to play and then like a player with the exact same situation. Dreams for this is a transfer and go. Oh He's GonNa be really good. Protective texting season. Are you guys just handing out waivers on twitter you call? Are you calling me out because I tell you what this is what I actually did this unintentionally but I got my four year old crawling on my shoulder and I see the news and I'm just like hold on hold on hold on? I'm just going to send out a tweet about Mac McClellan and then I'm like Oh yeah you freaking idiot. He might not even be so. I did what you're talking about. I know but it's not. It might have been you but it's not just you almost everybody and it and they're not consistent with it at all. It'll be like well. This player is transferring. He'll sit out next season. And then there's a player with the exact same set of circumstances would transfer and be like. Ooh That's a big get for next season's team looks like what we like. You can't handle waivers on twitter. You can say he has a good chance to get away or why you think he's going to get a waiver but just a signing players to next year's roster who sit out transfers is wild to me and yet it happens all the time. My favorite was our buddy. Jeff could today so this this nerd tweets magma clone transfer. It's official going to Texas tech going. Be Really Great. With the Red Raiders. Next season or something like that and then literally comes back four minutes later and says a nobody knows for sure if mcleans go to get a waiver. They're just assuming you're talking about. You're you're the one doing that if he was criticizing like it was a tweet designed to criticize. Adams the GORIA or something. But he was like he was taking aim directly at his previous tweet. I don't even know what's going on. I ha just make clear. I want to get the scoreboard clear. Here you got a problem with people handing out handing out waivers on twitter. But you're okay with giving yourself a doctorate on a podcast. I am Doctor. And a rising star in the field of meteorologist. I just WanNa make sure all right. I'm not saying I'm consistent across saying I got these things that I'm okay with other things that I'm not like if we're going to discuss it out. Transfers by NCWA rule currently employs. Let's just all discuss it in the same way. This is a player who just announced. He's going to that school unless he gets a waiver. He'll have to sit out. That's fine but like all the time it's he's going to be great nick season. We just decided he's GonNa get away. We're were like you already figured that out. What are we doing so anyway? That's just by by bothers me but I understand. It probably only bothers me. So let's get back to your question. Do you think mark McLaughlin is going to get a waiver to play immediately next season? My answer you ready for this. I don't know but I will say he seems to have set the groundwork for a compelling case which is the point I made with the column when he announced a couple of weeks ago that he was leaving Georgetown. He was asked for his reasoning. And this is what he said quote. It was a number of different events that made me feel. I had no choice but to transfer from Georgetown. I really wanted to stay but things throughout my career made me realize that I couldn't in other words and this is the point I've made before I made in the column today. Like that's the way you do it. You don't start talking about playing time or I want a bigger stage. I WANNA play point guard. You say there were things that happened. That made me feel like I couldn't be there anymore now. Does he have actually have examples of those things or documented examples of those things? I don't know is he being sincere? I couldn't say for sure but I will say the fact that he stayed away from any sort of basketball reason at all and his publicly known reasoning for leaving. Georgetown is rooted in different events. That made him feel. He had no choice but to transfer that sets yourself up to get a waiver. Now we'll see if he can submit these events in a convincing way to the incident of play but I guess the main point of the column was just if you're a basketball player thinking about transferring cut and paste that statement. Because that's where you start if you start talking about like landers. Nali transferred to Memphis. He's interviewed by by Memphis media and he's like I just felt like I was playing at a position at Virginia Tech. I'm a guard like you should never say that you are. You're submitting tying your reasoning to basketball reasons. That's how you waiver gets denied. Olivier saw talks about couldn't pass on the. I'm paraphrasing here but talks about like how awesome it be to play at Kentucky which would be but. That's not a good enough reason to get a waiver to play immediately so. I don't know what's going to happen with MAC MC long but I just know that he laid a foundation to build a case on in a in. What is I think a pretty intelligent way? Sarah also said that if he doesn't the waiver that he'll have intentions to play basketball. No matter what next season so that would be professional route as well which Certainly wouldn't seem to help his case. Overall it is interesting. We also have to acknowledge that because of the cove in nineteen era that we are in predicting these things becomes a little bit of a fool's errand because we don't yet know how the instability is going to react. When it comes to this stuff. We have an interesting weaver situation. Just a few here but just keep that in mind as just real quick whether he plays next season or not going. Texas Tech is interesting. I would have been most excited to see play at Byu. Because I think that would have potentially opened him up for the biggest kind of offensive firepower. Green light kind of situation but for all we know MC lung one. He's going to coach. Who's well established as one of the best in the game and Crispier? Only you know five seasons in as a d. one head coach and he's done wonders for his reputation. There maybe he is going to be that committed on the defensive end. This doesn't seem like a surefire win for both parties. I don't think I think he can be good. Listen Mc Lung Average fifteen point seven points three point one boards two point four assists and he shot thirty nine percent from the field at Georgetown and he was a volume player out of desire but also became a volume player out of downright necessity. Once Kinjo bounced and left after seven games last season. So I don't know I don't really know of Texas tech whether he's GonNa play next season or the season after that if they're going to have the right kind of guy on or off ball to totally complement Tim so for the Texas Tech Fans that have checked in here just to get a take on McLaughlin how he fits with crispy system like I think that he will be a fine player but I don't think he is the kind of addition no matter when he is going to play and for how long that will be one or two years. We'll have two years left availability regardless that he's going to be the kind of guy that flip Texas tech season and makes them into a surefire final four contender. Anything like that. Nice player needs better defensively. You have to play hard. If you'RE GONNA play for crispier clung has a really awesome motor. I think he'll be fine piece but I'm not convinced that he's going to wind up. We're GONNA look a year from now for. That's what he's planning or two years now. Gp and Oh yeah. This was one of the two or three best year fire transfers. I'm not quite there a colleague. David Cobb is kind of with me so just keep that in mind going forward but but it was an intriguing intriguing commitment on the lesson will wait to see how long we even find out when it comes to these waivers to keep that in mind as well. It can be a long process and I wouldn't suspect I would not suspect that we'll have any answer on MC lung. I'm going to be conservative here. Gp I like. I'm talking like mid August at the earliest. I wouldn't think who knows. There's no timeline to follow on whether you gonNA waiver or not. Sometimes they drift into season and the Johnny juicing situation that will get to in a minute captain for you on May twenty seventh. What seems incredibly early. I don't know anything about the timeline timeframe but I do agree with you about Mc long as a player like listen. He's a nice player. You don't go to Georgetown and then have options to transfer to Texas Tech Memphis Auburn. Usc Byu Arkansas. Wake forest. If you're not a nice player you can't score fifteen point seven points per game in the Big East if you're not a nice player but that said is more famous than he is great probably probably and why is that. Well incredible high school career. Let's be honest. Little White Guy who dunks played at Georgetown he's Instagram. Celebrities got hundred thousand followers on instagram. Because he's a little white guy who dunks so I think he's more famous than than great but still good but but like this was the biggest college basketball headline today probably And I it if he if he goes to Texas tech well he ever be the best player on a good Texas tech team. I'm not convinced that GP neither me. Neither but I will tell you I wrote that column and it's already gotten about seven times as many views as a normal column So there's an audience. There is a lot of people know who this is. And it's May twenty seventh. Might as well write something but I thought it was interesting that the you know the listen I know when a great column Okay Columnists. It's perfectly reasonable column. But it's not like seven times better than what I wrote last week but it has gotten seven times more views already and I think that speaks to the celebrity of Mack. Mclarty HE IS HE IS A. He's more well known than he is. Great but still. Let's not get a twisted crispier. You take him and you're glad you got without a doubt a real quick before we move on. I do we. Should we should note here. I mean it's been a few days since a case five days we learned but Patrick Ewing Contract COVID nineteen Contracted coronavirus was diagnosed with coach. Nineteen That was on Friday heading into the long Memorial Day weekend. He has since returned home. Which is great to hear. It's obviously been a rough go for ewing. I guess in general Because he had to live through the documentary then agree to about five or six interview talking. About how great Michael Jordan was beat him in college obviously and then the next could never get past. Mj In the Bulls specifically their loses McCloy was a whole bunch of kids to transfer Georgetown. I think is easily easily going to be the worst in the big next season here. Noble Clung a huge Stinger. He had mentioned he'd gone on record to say McLaughlin the draft process. But he's GonNa come on back to school. Obviously that's not happening there but at the top of the list though glad to hear. That ewing is recovering Apparently recovering well from having contracted the virus but that when when one of the greatest college basketball players. I'm really one of the fifty best. Nba players of all time and one of the few active head coaches contracts corona virus. That's legitimate headline just happened to land right heading into three day weekend. I do WANNA bring that up real quick touching on leaving. Georgetown glad to see that. He is better. But in basketball. Sense Ewing has a lot of work to do. He is a huge rebuild ahead of them and now trying to get any sort of momentum to build next to next one two or three years I know Georgetown fans are kind of hurting with this. Because it's not going as well as they had hoped and the clung stuff as we sit here talking about it. They're sitting there thinking well. Let's flashback to where we were back in November. Gp All eight months ago. When really looked like Georgetown was going to be sending to something of a decent season completely flames. And now the program you can easily make. The argument is probably as bad. If not worse position now than it was when you took it over it just shows you are is a reminder of how delicate this profession is for these guys like it really did feel like in the NBA players. Coming back to coach through a modern like. It hasn't always been great. Chris Mullin at Saint John's was not great but it felt like Patrick was like right about to turn the corner like had it really close to becoming relevant again and then it just blows up on it and some of it happened midseason. Obviously the mccomb thing happens after the season and now isn't a bad spot. Obviously is health is the most important thing that's the priority but You know after that is a you know in his past and he's up and running again he's got a basketball a historically great basketball program to run and you're exactly right. It's in it's in a bad place right now and that's not good for college basketball. We don't need to spend much time on this any more time than the on this but it is better when Georgetown Matters. That's a big brand from my childhood and the idea that it might be finished last in the big east next season. That's just not where Georgetown basketball could be. Should be so hopefully do this like Patrick. It's better and I hope that he gets that program back on track one way or another. We mentioned another transfer who surprisingly. I think already got a waiver to play immediately next season. That's Johnny juicing at Ucla. We're GONNA get into that next but first let me remind you that college football is inching closer which means is the perfect time to unveil offseason rankings. And that's what the Cup three podcast doing one episode at a time this week. I don't know if you've been following that. But they're dedicating fifteen minute episodes every day counting down the top. Five Georgia was number five on Monday. Oklahoma and before on Tuesday Alabama number three today so I guess by process of elimination. They're down to Ohio and Clemson for the top two five unless you think what is going to be southern miss or something. So those episodes they're to wouldn't that be something other missiles number two. Elian the guys. That'd be great so those episodes are drafted. Thursday Friday number one number two on Thursday number one on Friday and like I said they're an easy. Listen just roughly fifteen minutes each so go. Check out the cover three podcasts. If you haven't already downloaded subscribe on Apple podcasts spotify stitcher and wherever else podcasts are found so Johnny Dude Giuseppe got a a waiver to play immediately which might not independent of everything else be the most surprising thing in the world but the idea that he got it on. May Twenty seven. That is a little bit surprising. How did they knock that out so quickly? I think I have an answer to the question of the question. Go Pretty Simple People. The answer to the question. Why did ask somebody connected to the whole situation like a good for you because I always root for the players to get waivers I? It's crazy that they have to so. I'm never disappointed when somebody actually gets one but I a little surprise. Sometimes when people get them and especially surprise what had happened to May twenty seventh. What I was told is that from the NC Double A.'S PERSPECTIVE. It was a softball case and the case was rooted in this. Johnny using is from Southern California lives like fifteen minutes grew up fifteen minutes from UCLA campus. He was in school at Kentucky. Pandemic hits he wants to get back closer to home. Any literally. Early goes as close to home as he could get which is. Ucla young man during a pandemic. You want to be closer to your family. That's fine with us. Stay up approval. You get a waiver to play immediately now. If we're being honest we think Johnny dusing really transferred back home because of the pandemic like the way I would apply for the waiver as well but like it's also true that he didn't play very much. It's a freshman probably wasn't gonNA play very much as a sophomore. He was going to get out of there anyway and I think it's interesting that he might have done exactly what he was going to do. In fact I think probably would have even without the pandemic which is leave. Kentucky go to Ucla but because of the pandemic you can say well. That's really why I did it. And what does the instead? We're GONNA do argue with your motive. So they stamped it. He's good to go good for him but it is an interesting situation. It is an interesting situation. I got a question for you John Wooden Ever GonNa sit out transferring eligible. No I read the wikipedia. I read the set Davis Book and it wasn't in there anyway. Johnny Jews Zang's getting immediately eligible in nineteen sixty seven are they. Hey old timers tell me give me an example of John. Wooden Johnny dusing eligible in May sit out. Transfer turned into an immediate player. Just like that that he thought John Wooden on the sidelines and twenty twenty right now you throw Johnny choosing in his backyard. He doesn't know what to do. He doesn't he's lost. He does not know how to handle this. Mick Cronin I mean. Parents gave a nice answer but come on. We know everyone knows the real answer here macron and he got it done. You know what the rules don't apply and that's going to be forever the case with Mick Cronin at Ucla because this world is going to go away next year he's going to be batting thousand at UCLA. Sit Out transfers you. Mick Gangsta. Love Janis by the way average. Two point nine points. One Point Nine Rebounds Play Twenty eight percent of Kentucky's minutes. I would be listen. I'm sure he the formerly obviously a well rounded player he gets to Kentucky. That's kind of the deal there. He had a couple of moments. I think in a UK uniform where I could say. Yeah Dude seems like he's good. I have no idea how much of an impact he's going to make a good on. Ucla in getting him though because if he can tap into something that can provide potential eight points ten points points a game obviously. Ucla would really prefer to have that after losing. They don't play the same position or anything. But you know you get what you can get. Here they lose Dacian Knicks now. They get juicing immediately eligible good on him but what you did say is important to keep in mind when we talked about Mac McClellan and James Kinjo in any other high profile guy out there that you wanna that you WANNA pick out. That's going to apply for a waiver if they are not transferring back home truly back home to a school exceedingly close choosing you say grew up fifteen minutes away that might be nor star for anyone. That's seeking immediate eligibility in college. Basketball suggest be sure to To keep that in mind and if we look up at the end of October November whenever the season is about to start and most of these waivers have been handled. A common thread there. I wouldn't be surprised. Giuseppe is just the first we wait and see philly the last but like every. Here's the problem because I had a radio show this afternoon Memphis and they were like some listeners. Like hey if the kid from Kentucky got a a waiver to play immediately at UCLA. Then what about landers molly or Andre Williams because Memphis has to sit out transfers right now? Who both of them would probably start from emphasis at this point like they. They matter lender. Sallie averaged fifteen points per game the ACC and the problem is landers knowledge from Atlanta transferred to Memphis. It's not really any closer than Virginia. Tech is and the Andre Williams is from Houston transferred to Memphis if he wanted to play the pandemic guard he needed to call Kelvin Sampson and go to Houston Not Memphis. So it's interesting like it just works perfectly for juicing but the idea that it's going to work the pandemic quote unquote pandemic is going to work. Perfectly for all other transfers or even most of the transfers. I'm I'm not sure I see that. Yeah the you could be correct about that. And I assume we're going to this player next week when he expected to commit. Who was a twenty twenty one top ten guy reclassified twenty twenty and so classmates with my son? That's right we've talked about on the before. That's that's correct so anyway. Untutored him so well that he was able to get out of high school a year early. Put that on your college application. You got to be breaking the skits commitment okay. Thank you know what I'll be completely honest with. Stayed completely out of it and the reason is because fans are crazy it is true. It's not only that my son moved to go to the same school. They were in the same year. They were both juniors this year and they were in the same classes and my son literally helped tutoring after school. Sometimes right and so let. My son could text him right now. I'm I'm assuming that you're certainly hit him up on snapchat or something like their their best friends. Movies never been to my house but they know each other and so my fans are so crazy. Here's what would happen if he goes to Memphis Kentucky fans will be Parish had a was it using his son and what if IT GOES TO KENTUCKY MEMPHIS FANS will be the same memphis terrorist hates his alma mater and he pushed because he loves John. Calipari pushed him to Kentucky. Like people are just wacko. They Co doesn't matter. What would happen somehow? Somebody would want to say I had a role when make it happen? So I'm like I haven't even asked. I actually asked my son today. Did you see or did you hear that moves to finally reclassified? He said Yeah I saw it and then I left it there. I didn't what do you think he's going to do or have you talked to him about it. I don't even I didn't want to get involved. You might have a rough next week coming for you though because like people people I swear to God like whether it's message boards or social media or like a facebook fan page. I don't see most of it because I just I. Just stay away from it but I. I'm not exaggerating. Eighty percent of the things I read about myself not about my columns or about my radio show but like hey I heard Gary Perez said this or did this. I'm not exaggerate. Eighty percent of it is completely made up. Like there's no truth to it whatsoever but these people have a unique ability to just imagine things and so when there is actually a situation where my son is classmates with the five star prospect? I was like I don't I don't I never met those see say and I have no intention of doing it. And delivery pigs college man connections all over the place. Josh Perish. Obviously your half brother going to play for San Diego which is a big news. We talked about last week on the pod and now Mussa say who is expected to make his announcement next week But anyway the bring the only reason why I brought him. We'LL PROBABLY NOT PROBABLY. We'll talk about a more next week If when he does commit For MEMPHIS Particular situation if he does go there. It will lessen the blow because I personally don't see how a player like landers gnarliest eligible. I think that you are going to have him sit. And then he'll be available and eligible to get on the court a year from now aside from that. I think I'm tapped out on johnny juice. Content my man. Then let's move on to another pack. Twelve school bobby. Hurley hates his Athletic Director. Or at least he did back in. December. We'll get into that next. But first check us out. Oh yes you boy. Bc HOSTS OF THE STATE OF COMBAT WITH BRIAN. 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We have in the twenty four seven sports office every week. Subscribe to the Barton and Bud show wherever your podcast? So there was an interesting story published. By Pete Thamel. Yahu sports he published an email sent from Bobby Hurley to Arizona. State Athletic Director Ray Anderson Again. The email coming in December in which Hurley accuses his athletic director of having quote disregarded safety. And show no sensitivity towards the women that have experienced sexual assault in quote. Bobby also in that same email told Anderson. He felt like he'd been lied to. And this is all connected to a situation that broke earlier in the season earlier. In this year I believe does a guiding bar wear who is a or was a Arizona. State Booster Guy. Sounds like a real creep boat three different women. One of whom is Bobby? Hurley's wife accused him of sexual harassment. Now to be fair to Bart wear. He denies the allegations. He's suing Arizona State for damaging his reputation to the tune of like five million dollars. But let's just keep it real. You think three different women are lying on this dude. I don't and now Bobby Hurley is pissed or at least he was pissed. I should say bobby released a statement here on Wednesday night that read this way. My relationship with director Ray Anderson today is strong and we will work together alongside. My outstanding coaching staff toward the continued. Success of Sunday will men's basketball so the most important word in that statement is today. My relationship is strong today because on the day that he sent this email which I believe was December seven. It wasn't strong. He was flat out accusing Athletic Director of a whole bunch of stuff. And doing that knowing bobby. See Bobby popping off in person when you sit in that email you are creating a paper trail intentionally like you're you're creating a paper trail intentionally so you can have what you want on the record. And it's almost looked like he was setting up a situation where I think I think power play you right now and get you out of here and this is the first step in doing exactly what. I thought when I saw this. Okay and also really good on on Bobby Hurley to do this. Frankly like you know you don't get extra get extra credit for for paying your taxes watching your kids or sticking up for your wife. I get all that. But if we put ourselves in his shoes and most other men would just be enraging. Absolutely infuriating to the point of like boiling anger. Okay the kind of treatment that significant other would would would fall under allegedly. So but yeah. I thought you know what bobby can run hot. He's developed a reputation that in the coaching realm. In some ways it's very entertaining endearing comical. At sometimes he goes overboard but he is super super passionate. I actually think he's the wilder of the to early brothers and each of them have have their own quirks. There's no doubt about it but when I did see this I thought all right. He's rightfully pissed off and he is definitely setting up a path year. To where if stuff if more stuff comes out or if he knows more that what was even then what was even forth year. That's even known to the public now. he is setting up a way to if he thinks that he did. He shouldn't have the athletic director that he should. And he and Bobby Bobby. Hurley has already established himself as one of the two or three best coaches in the history that program. I think relatively easily at this point Then then he would have had a case. Now it's good to hear that their relationship to day is good. And hopefully all is operating. Well there within Arizona State. But this was I just I found this to be obviously compelling because the subject. Y'All you normally don't get this kind of stuff out in this kind of way it can be made public through foia obviously and through other Through other things but yes I thought it was very interesting. And obviously the the alleged behavior involved here is is grotesque. And you've got a situation with a booster who's going way over the line and the fact that you know his wife and the other two were ever subject to this is completely unacceptable. The the the the booster to put some details on what he is accused of doing. So there's named David Cohen. Who was an associate ad At Arizona State he worked directly with the men's basketball program. He got fired after he reported the harassment. He's filed a lawsuit and accused the athletic Anderson of covering up but one of the allegations. David Cohen is a is that. So they're out of Arizona State game. It was packed with tournament and his wife is sitting on the same row as Mart wear and you can just imagine you're sitting on a you're sitting on a I own a basketball game and you gotta get up to get to the to get out of the aisle you've got. You're sitting on a road to get to the got pass people that we've all done that a million times. And so she's walking past him. And this creepshow allegedly puts both of his hands on her hips on her sides and then runs his hands up her side to her breasts and then looks at her and says Dave is lucky to have you like. That's incredible like I don't even know how you. How could you be comparable doing that right? You know when you hear this kind of stuff on top of just the completely demoralizing fearing fury eating stuff that we see in the new like it's just like I can't just I just can't where do people get off. I just don't understand how you could ever ever ever ever. I just understand. Gp Just it's just not compatible with my mindset like how could you ever act like that with a woman? Who is in your own life? You know just unbelievable. It's so it's three different women. One of the Dave cowens wipe is one Bobby Hurley. His wife is another another woman. Connected to the program was another. They all accuse him of different things but all under the same umbrella of sexual harassment. So let's go back to this email that Bobby Hurley sent. So it's December seven. They just want a game and I can. I can picture it bobbies on fire after the game because as bobby tells the story. The athletic director had come to a practice earlier in the week. And by the way that it's been months since Bart wear had allegedly done. These things and bobby already upset about the whole thing because he didn't feel like it was being handled properly but the eighty comes to him and says listen here you. He's not going to be to. He's not GonNa be around basketball program anymore. We'll keep warm and then in that same week. Is this bar. Where character shows up at an Arizona state game and he's sitting like front and center right by the cheerleaders. Embodies like what? You told me that you were going to keep them away and now. He's sitting courtside with the cheerleaders right. Bobby and Bobby's fired up at CNN. So he sits down computer banging on email and one of these claims. Is that ray? Anderson went on a golfing trip with Bart wear six weeks after learning of the allegations. So that's another part. Were bobbies like what are you doing? We told you this guy did these things to our wives and you're still golfing buddies. What they go on his private plane. What and so I I do. I could bobby credit. It's like as you put it. He can run hot. But when you run hot in defense of your wife or other women when you feel like someone who is acting undeniably inappropriately is getting away with it. Well THAT'S A. That's a good place to run hot. And not all of us would have the whatever's to stand up to our boss because when you're a coat that athletic director is your boss not all of us would have the whatever it takes to stand up to our boss in that way in defense of those women but Bobby did and I know now. He says that Henry Anderson are good but they clearly weren't on December seventh. And I understand why they weren't if I were Bobby Hurley. I'm fed up innocent. Yeah well said they don't really have much too much else to add From from all of that but yeah Arizona State in terms of just real quick on the program. I mean It's I think. Asu Fans realize that you know some of the stuff with bobby on like there are definite moments during games really like. It's just too much and I would even say that you know we don't know when Mike Will retire but I think. Because of Bobby's side he's one of the best players in that program's history That actually might be working against him being the successor but he is certainly doing things at Arizona State on the Court. An recruiting that are Quickly making him one of the best coaches in program history. I actually recently did a did a whole story on. Cbs Sports Dot Com about a look at the power conferences. New the best coach in each of those Schools was that's currently active in earliest. Not There yet. But he certainly getting there and I just thought the story was obviously Interesting that we just almost never see something like this if you tell us that there's a major college football coach at a power institution caught up with his athletic director. A scandal that has to do with sexual harassment. It's almost never the coach. That's on this side of the conversation and so You know credit to Bobby for acting the way that he did and I certainly hope that he and his ad are on good terms but You know when you take Bobby Edwards and an Anderson It's a clear pecking order in terms of who the WHO truly are the most powerful people athletic department like. I don't think I'd ever seen like listen. There are plenty of hate their athletic directors. I don't think I'd ever seen yes in email or a text message or or proof. Evidence of a coach going at his athletic director so brazenly and so aggressively an accusing him of serious misconduct. Like a you went on a golfing trip with the guy who we told you was sexually harassing our wives. Six weeks after we told you like. That's you know. That's I'm sure. Ray Interesting can rationalize it at his own head in my head. It seems like unacceptable behavior for Bobby to call him out on it. I thought was again just a a an interesting story. Let's move onto the sad news over the weekend Saturday night at the age of eighty. Four Eddie Sutton died Hall of fame coach. Who had an incredible career? That was yet teamed here and there was scandal. But when you talk about one of the all time great basketball coaches like any sudden is on that list. He coached at Creighton. Arkansas Kentucky Oklahoma State and finished his career as the interim coach at San Francisco which is where he was able to a clips. The eight hundred wind marker which is why he decided to coach that one season at San Francisco. He made three final four. He's the two-time. Ap Coach of the year. And so I guess the good news is that he was elected to the Naismith Memorial Hall of fame this year and so he lived long enough to know he was a hall of. Famer but the sad news is that he didn't live long enough to enjoy the ceremony. It was scheduled for this year. I don't know if you saw this. Jackie macmullan reported earlier tonight that that ceremony is now being pushed two thousand twenty one just so that that is the Kobe Bryant ceremony right. Well Tim Duncan Tim. Duncan I guess Kevin Garnett but Eddie Sutton was part of that and so just like a tweeted Saturday nine. I'm glad that coach Sutton was able to die knowing or I should put it. The other white lived long enough to know you were recognized as Naismith Memorial Hall of Famer but it kind of made me a little sad that he'll never get to experience that ceremony because anybody who's ever gotten to experience that will tell you it's. It's a pretty pretty incredible night. No doubt about it Obviously Doug Gottlieb is is one of his more well known players And as as vocal about Sutton as anyone given GOTTLIEB's prominent role in the basketball media For more than a decade now And he said I called him saying that that he thought that you know for much of the past year or so you're two years or three years One of the biggest things that might have been driving. Eddie to keep going was just waiting to see if you would get into the hall of fame. This was a huge deal. He's Sutton is had. I say for probably nearly a decade and with increasing volume in past two three or four years a very vocal and adamant and passionate crowd. Just guys that played forum but other coaches and former coaches that have been pushing to get him into the hall and while the Naismith Memorial Hall of fame the voting body that the members are not made public which something I've constantly criticized but that's just how it is Behind closed doors. There are enough people in basketball power circles that know who votes and who doesn't and clearly those words eventually had enough influence that he finally got in this year He had been in failing health. he was married to a woman patchy right for fifty five years. And so you know. Imagine you know living living with and loving for someone for so long more than five decades five and a half decades and He's now at peace there but certainly Titan in College. Coaching one of a handful. Eight ten twelve guys ever To win eight hundred games at the D. One level in in men's basketball he was born Buckland. Kansas died in Tulsa Oklahoma when he played at Oklahoma state in the nineteen fifties. It was actually called Oklahoma. Am HE LEARNED UNDER HENRY? Aiba not such a detail One of Sutton's biggest claims to fame is that he started at Creighton. Coach Arkansas Coach Kentucky and then Oklahoma State before finishing at San Francisco which is just. You're right it did get him to eight hundred and I wonder if that's a huge detail in terms of him getting in eclipsing that number GP So the fact that Sutton finished his career San Francisco just one of the more random coaching tidbits out there but with Creighton Arkansas Kentucky Oklahoma state he was the first coach ever to take four programs to the NCAA tournament there started at Creighton in the sixties Arkansas in the seventies got the hogs and the final four hundred seventy eight core four years of Kentucky but there were Kentucky is an interesting one because he brought about a scandal. I mean academic improper benefits some proven. Some weren't but a lot of people that are listening to podcasts. Now that are under the end. This is something that I barely even remember. But you know over the years to come to to read up on the stories and all that so anyone. That's over the age of forty will remember anyone. That's under the age of thirty s for the most part Kentucky was hit so hard by the instability that it actually there was a gossip and conjecture that it was as close to death penalty as a program as you could actually get at that point because it was a multiple offender and remember that's Gb that was on the heels of smu actually getting it and football. And that's what led Rick Pitino to getting to Kentucky and it's why the ninety two elite eight game against Duke is so heralded not because it was amazing game but the backstory about Kentucky getting gutted and Patino bringing all the way back and then losing in overtime at the Horn with the with the unforgettable is there but but yeah I had a quick but somewhat accessible and then Oklahoma state in one thousand nine hundred thousand six. He had the AUX team. They made the final four hundred ninety five team that also made the final four. They're So he finished at eight hundred four wins three hundred twenty nine losses one seventy percent of his games. I don't know if he was. I don't think he was ever for sure when he was coaching. Like the best coach or the Second Best Coach College basketball at any point. Maybe not even the third don't think that was ever the case like right now as we sit here if you want to say who are the best active coaches right. Now may twenty twenty. You could say well you know what I think. Is Tony Bennett? It could be Mike Chassis. You can put Crispier J. Right there. Y- names that you would throw into that conversation. I don't know if Sutton was ever at that point truly but when you look at his career is resume into toe totality GP. It's damn impressive. I do think that he is easily one of the twenty or twenty-five in the history of college basketball men's or women. You mentioned one eight. Two of the coach of the year twice in seventy eighty six and He did a great reconstruction job in Oklahoma State when he got there and finally earned induction into the Memorial Hall of fame. So I'm glad we just took a few minutes to talk about him because he is a big name in the history of the sport and his name has legacy his family will at least get the Get the nod their and get to experience that in twenty twenty one but Gone at the age of eighty four. And you know this is a cliche but I find it to be in talking to people who knew him they just probably don't make coaches like Eddie Sutton anymore. And I don't say that pejoratively He definitely was not a guy that was caught up in a lot of the The smaller stuff with the job if you will coast in a different style So Thoughts with him and his family and And produced a heck of a few good players. They're among my favorites obviously One Tony Allen so Recipes Eddie Sutton Certainly big legacy and soon to be in the hall of fame. He was great everywhere. He coached other than San Francisco. But that was like whatever and then Kentucky obviously turn bad had a losing record in that last year. And you've got a two year postseason ban and it's why when you hear somebody say the incident play never hits the billboards like Kentucky. Got A two year postseason ban like they buried that program and it took an all time great like Rick Pitino to get it back so quickly. But that's what it took somebody is great As as Rick Pitino and you mentioned the thousand and four final fourteen. That was my first dealings with Eddie Sutton because I was the Memphis beat writer at the time. They played Memphis in the second round of the of the into play tournament. Oklahoma state was the to the East Memphis was the seven and John. Kelly had just one is first into turn a game? Since arriving at Memphis this was year four. It took to the fourth year that John was at Memphis from to win a tournament game in the second round. They play Oklahoma state. And it's Tony Allen Joey and Stephen Graham John Lucas Ivan McFarland just men against boys the Oklahoma state up forty one nine hundred the half they win seventy fifty three and then trivia time. That's what I'll have to give it to me. Who did that? Oklahoma state team beat in the elite eight to get to the final four. I mean what are we doing here? This question is way too easy. I'm offended okay. Can you give me something? That's difficult Easter at the Saint Joe's undefeated team losing the ALITA. Billy Packer Nancy. Not Worthy of Trivia time. We've long since moved past that. If you ask me who they beat in the sweet sixteen that I can't tell you that would actually be difficult. I can't. I cannot recall offhand who Oklahoma state would have beaten the sweet sixteen that year. Well I let me tell you. Saint Joe's was not undefeated. That's right. They lost Xavier. Who was an eight seed in the eight ten undefeated in the regular season? They were somewhat of a controversial one seed heading into the Oh four tournament in fact famously. Packer completely dismissed them and it only took until they got to have that great game at home. That packer publicly commended. That Saint Joe's team who I also love. That's one of my favorite eight games of all time. You write that. One loss randomly upset in eight quarters by savior. Saint Joe's team that finished thirty and two they were thirty in one entering that Game Jamir Nelson National Player of the year now works at CBS sports network with me and he and I just randomly started talking about that game but at some point this season and he was like we knew like I knew when it started like this is a different level deal. He's like he's like all the people who said we hadn't been playing against great athletes. He was like I. I doubted them up until we got. We Got Oklahoma state and I was like okay. Maybe maybe they knew something because like we were just physically overwhelmed by them but they made it close. It was a final sixty four. Sixty two an answer question. Oklahoma state their path to that game. It was eastern Washington than be used to Washington by Nineteen Memphis Bite. Seventeen hit by twelve pit. Is that bin Halim pit or Jamie Dixon pit Jamie Dixon pit s. Jamie Jackson pet appears to be Jamie Dixon. Pit in two thousand four Jamie Dixon. First Year I think it probably was. Yep Amy Dickson first year at Pitt. Thirty one and five Manno man and then Oklahoma state goes to the final four and plays who trivia time this is all four and they lose to Georgia Tech. That's right we'll buy them in the Luke Shan Sure Luke. Censure going in the teeth the podcast. That's an absolute automatic. That Georgia Tech Team. Listen they had a couple of guys I get it but really I think the most just I listened shots Paul Hewitt but like a lifetime contract incredible incredible job but like the most uninspiring underwhelming nationals Semi runner up. The ever. Like just just completely. You knew you can't have that game. You knew when they played UCONN title game that Georgia Tech had absolutely no shot. It would have been a much better game. And i contend that oklahoma state would have had a real real chance to actually pull it off a win national title if it played uconn and oh by the way if that does happen then i think eddie sutton's in the hall of fame like ten years ago personally right but One last Eddie Sutton story so I get the job at CBS. In two thousand six. And I guess it's two thousand eight when he takes over at San Francisco. I don't even remember the details but if somebody got fired. They needed a interim coach like the pump brothers. Were involved in it somehow. Like Hey we get ready to San Francisco and we can get into eight hundred wins. Like that's all they wanted to do was just get him to eight hundred wins and so I was. I might have broke the story. I don't remember but like I I was I was in there the whole time with it and at some point after it's been reported Dana Pomp. Hey do you want us to get coach? Sutton to call you. And I don't know coats up at all. Like I had my job for two years. And like he was out of the game by like we didn't really cross pass much and so I didn't really know him at all and I bet you. I've had dinner with my father-in-law my wife's father five times ever. Okay he lives in Arkansas and this he happened to be in town this night. And so we're sitting at dinner and my phone rings and it's Eddie Sutton and he just thought that was the coolest thing in the world because he's from Arkansas and he like idolized Eddie Sutton. And he couldn't believe his daughter was married to somebody who was on the phone with Eddie Sutton. He never quite grasp what my job was. But the idea that Eddie Sutton called me. I don't remember a million of games that I've been to but I can vividly remember sitting with my father in law and saying excuse me I have to take this `cau- it's Eddie. Sutton what you're playing around like Eddie Sutton released dowdy thought that was the wildest thing though and I remember like Eddie just being real that he was gonNA coach again because if you remember it ended badly in Oklahoma state to. Yes just for different reasons. There was a drunken driving incident and it was just is ugly scene and so he'd had the thing in badly at Kentucky and then it ended badly at Oklahoma state. And here's a guy who's just going to to me. That what I remember about is he just sounded like a basketball coach like man. I'm going to be coach basketball. And I'm you know I'm GONNA be able to get paid under winds and that's great but I'll be back in a gym coach basketball. Is it going to be on national television? The way used to do it. Is it going to be inside? Rep Arena was no but man. I can't wait the coach basketball again and I know that season didn't go perfectly but it did get him above eight hundred and enjoyed it and he for to be at such an advanced age. At that time he could not been more excited in that moment talking on the phone to to to stranger. Because that's what I was to him. I just remember really pumped up and really just kind. He was genuinely enthusiastic. I have good memories of Eddie Sutton fan good deal all right. One more bit of news item. Actually like this podcast. You if you were on a bunch of different topics it's busier than I thought On a late late Wednesday in May but here we go So official word. You can inform the people officially here but official word came down on Wednesday. I in what for you and I think wasn't inevitability but it does impact college basketball. I think in a very significant way. Tell the people would happen. The into announced today that there's going to be a moratorium on evaluation days until at least July thirty first which essentially means July recruiting officially done. Now none of this should be a surprise. It's just like at this point the NBA draft has technically been moved. But it's going to be moved and I talked to Jonathan Cavani earlier today and he predicted that it would move to September. Like like like move really moved and so this is not surprising news but it is more official news for the first time in. Jesus you tell me. How many years is they're not going to be a peach. Jim in North Augusta South Carolina. Well I think know the answer. I think it's twenty two because I think it was two years ago that it was the twentieth anniversary of the Peach Jam. But it's the first time I don't even know how long this you'd need someone who's been on the beat for a long time including The legendary Tom Konczal Chelsea. Who recently retired. But why not gonNA shouts to Tom? You ever shaken Tom. Stand by the way of course legendary handshake. You're in you're in there for at least forty seconds gets he gets. There's no get now. It makes me uncomfortable like the president. Does that too? Apparently it's just hold onto you. Yeah just Tom. Such as we truly legendary evaluator He might have the answer for the last time that there wasn't age alive period the college basketball recruiting calendar. It truly is a live organism like it changes every two to five years in terms of when you can't go out when you can't go out with events allowed what aren't allowed live here. That periods will change and all that stuff. So it's constantly changing but I couldn't tell you the last time that coaches were actually not on the road whatsoever to evaluate basketball players in July. I mean we could be talking like six decades. Here I don't know but that wasn't inevitability just like you said with the draft That is absolutely accurate and it now leaves the question and I talked to a couple coaches here on Wednesday one since it came out in a couple earlier just kind of casual and on background but we did get just talking recruiting and listen. It's significant because first and foremost coach say this was some interests but they also say on behalf of the players that the recruiting the ones that they're not what you've got here is most particularly kids that are going to be seniors. Classic Twenty Twenty One. They were robbed of April and now the robbed of July. These are the opportunities where you might be seen as a to scar kit or a three star kid and then you get yourself right in three games or two games or maybe even one game and it changes your entire life because the right coach saw you and suddenly you go from having either no offers period to get in a son and southland offers or whatever or you're a south level player to the ten or your eight ten level of the ACC. I mean these are life changing things that happen every year. And they are documented frequently by you or me or people in the media recruiting writers. Obviously it's really awesome. It's sure it's it's it becomes a bit like okay. Yeah another guy. No one knew who this dude was and now suddenly. You've got blue bloods on them. Like almost happens With the turning of the seasons but still every year that it happens when you see a sixteen or seventeen to experience that and particularly if you talked to a parent that's on hand. It's awesome to hear those stories so they've been robbed of that. So what coaches want to know now is okay. When ARE WE GONNA HAVE CLARITY ON? If we're going to see these guys at all in a competitive environment like are we going to be able to push back the skull the non-scholastic calendar into September? Gp Or. Is it going to be me? Mike Brady told me a couple of months ago. He's like. I wouldn't be surprised if we got to October November four. We got to see these guys in in a weird way. Maybe this one year old almost like how we used to recruit in nineteen eighty-four like we're going to the high schools and that's really. We're getting the majority of our live action. No has those answers yet but Wednesday did bring the official end of July period and that is a significant thing. For how programs operate and how they're able they're chasing and there are probably GonNa be lower level schools that are going to be in on guys that bigger schools are just not gonna be able to see. And so they're gonNA benefit I think in the short-term they're keep an eye out for that and just to kind of loop it back to what we talked about the GP. It wouldn't surprise me at all. And I don't know how you could track all this data but if you just looked up in December or march of next year and just saw how many players just opted to stay within thirty miles sixty miles ninety miles a home just out in a either concern for what we're going through or just local schools being more in on these guys Just keep an eye out with that because there are not going to be a lot of schools like in Arizona. Oh by the way just a toss it just a an afterthought of a headline so to speak here. They got another commitment. Arizona has six players who are from foreign countries. And they have been able to get in the Legwork with their class of Twenty Twenty. They got like nine kids. That are GONNA turn over here including a Kinjo who I mentioned. But that's not going to be the case with a lot of schools. I think for the next season. Gp You're not GonNa have an Arizona Flush among them where you're going to have these big programs that are going to be able to real in international pro prospects left and right the leg work that was done with an Arizona getting six guys from overseas two of them. I think even played in the state of the past two years so it's not like six truly do like packing up and leaving Europe in the next two weeks or so But yeah it will. I'm being long winded here. Gp To wrap the pod. But I do think that it will have actual impact on how it's recruited and when that comes down to it I think there are long term effects are short short long term effects on how these teams perform one two and three years from now there are stories literally. Every summer of a coach happened to be and Jim when somebody plays well and next thing you know. He's on the radar. Next thing you know he's visit. He's committed like those opportunities. Not Existing really does change the landscape of college basketball like somebody who would otherwise. Be on your favorite teams roster. Two years from now is not going to be there because the coaches didn't see and stinks it's important to remember like on the list of things that salk about living through pandemic not going to peach. Jam is way down the list and player prospects not having that event is way down the list but it does suck plus. I want to go to boll. Weevil Miss. The Ball Weevil cafe. I'm sorry what the Ball Weevil cafe. You lost me. You don't know the boat. We will cafe in now. It's should i. It's the little cafe right out of the back door the Marriott talking. He's talking Augusta proper. Yes out of the back door or are you talking about the actual restaurant inside of it? No you walk out of the back door of the Marriott and you walk right into the Boll. Weevil cafe have never eaten there in my life. What I go there every summer. What you're not you're not with any of us. I try to go by myself. Yeah that's what's going on. I've been I've been there with quite a few different people. Maybe maybe not. You have been at the restaurant inside the Marriott many times as well boy we've got a million stories about those but that's maybe maybe not but that's always seen that is that is quite the scene that restaurant especially at night after the game. How do you spell this spot by the way? The Boll Weevil cafe it's a the be. Oh L. Okay W. E. E. V. I l. the Boll Weevil okay. It's right there on the little river. Walk thing right out the back door Marriott. Look it up one day. Maybe one day we'll be able to get back there. I hope because like okay. I flew home on March eleventh. I flew home on March. Eleven tournament was canceled the twelfth where you at home and it was cancelled. Yeah because I was at the CIA tournament with. Were you at home the night that we talked about Rudy. Gobert at home that morning. Yeah Okay flew home that morning and yeah we were pocket multiple. Podcast we did we did. I think we did too in a day and then you needed me to do a third and I couldn't so you third yourself I think that's right and so I haven't been. I haven't been away from home since March eleven in now. No Peach Jam. This is the longest. I have been home without leaving. I think in my entire adult life in terms of getting on a plane. Yeah certainly since. I've been at college really. I think so new like you've gotten home at like get home on April ninth after a final four not hopped on a plane until June July. You've done that but this is now going to go just feels like six years. It feels like six decades. But it's now going to go to I mean I don't think I'm GonNa get on a plane. We had a beach vacation schedule for June. We cancelled it and so now. I'm not going out in July. I really don't know when I'll get on a plane again. And by the time I get on a plane again. I suspect it will be the long largest amount of time between flights that I've had in my adult life. I JUST WANNA get out board a plane skin a drink and then I'll just go get off the plane. I just want drink on a plane. It on a plane. That's what people are talking about what they miss and miss being able to hug my parents or you know. I miss being able to you. Know have get it cut. It's true yeah I I missed drinking on a plane. That's number one minutes I can do. I can do without having people over. I don't really care. I don't have that many people I like. I Miss I MISS DRINKING. Apply first of all. You're a couple of one. I got a damn stink bug on my laptop right now. You GotTa Stink Bo problem by the way. I don't know how these efforts getting my house is that A. Is that a thing in memphis familiar with stink bug. But it's not something that I it's not something. Anyone that lives in the northeast is GonNa like this thing is crawling atop a photo. Windows are closed. I don't know how it's in here and I I'm killing like one a day. I don't know how they're getting into my house. I don't know what's going on. Just one thing after another here and what was that what was I think. Oh I do envy you in that. your hair situation is normally not something to envy. But you're able to maintain just keep like I'm it's. I'm going on Tuesday morning. I have to do a facebook watch video every Tuesday afternoon so shaved my head every Tuesday morning. I picked a good pick a good time to go ball. You did pick a good time to go bolt because you know what my lettuce is is starting to It's getting into a weird stage here. My wife is insisting on buzzing my head. This thing is attacking me to see this this. Oh my God like. We don't have oddly and Mississippi. We don't deal with it. Oh my gosh is mosquitoes and humidity. Yeah we do. Have THE MOSQUITOS UP HERE? But it's not. It's not southern. Tally just like it gets to be six ten. And you can't be outside anymore like horrendous. We don't have it that bad here. Are you guys allowed to go get haircuts yet in Connecticut? That's a good question. We were the last state to open up early. Loosen restrictions if you will and so. I haven't even tried yet so I don't I don't yet know are still wearing masks thirty. I mean it's super respectful and that is highly highly appreciate like everywhere I go. Everyone has a mask on. Because I went to the grocery store last time I went to maybe two times ago. There was a guy must have been eighty five years old willing himself into the grocery store. No mass just doesn't really cares. Nobody cares I'm on a different planet down here but I will say they have loosened restrictions and so far nothing bad like we haven't had a bad spike or anything like that could become but we haven't had it but my wife went to salon yesterday and got her hair done for the first time since the pandemic and she said it was but fine like wearing a mask while your stylist is doing your hair. She said it was weird. Weird but fine but I did. I wouldn't play golf so that I played Monday. When did you play Sunday Sunday morning? I still stink. What did you shoot we? We were playing match place. I didn't even keep a real score but it was. It would not have been good whatever it was. I did find somebody. Who lies about their handicap? More than I would Tom Brady Tom. Brady says he's eight hundred zero. I mean listen I understand the nerves you know you know that you're being watched by millions and millions. I get all that but then again. You're Tom Brady like you know you're being watched by exactly exactly. I have gophers a different deal. But Yeah No. I hear that. I played Monday Brother took me out for my for my birthday so actually played on on my birthday. Shot at one. Oh One after not swinging the clubs since September. I guess So when we went out one car per person which is by the way should be permanent. Like that was awesome. I assume you had the same deal. One Carpenter we had one we go. You know one person per car we also had. We're playing at southwind. That's not a humble brag. It's you it's a really nice course and so it was carpet only L. Boy. We were walking around. Okay Yeah Did your which was another thing. I should be permanent. Did your flag sticks have the little The Little Hook obviously just lift up the putter love. It love it. Great to know. Rake Golfers. I'm for one hundred years. We've been waiting to that so we had no obligation to rate when you leave the trap. Yeah no but we were. We were instructed to remove from the trump's. Oh Yeah we were not we play. I headed in an and I think you're not supposed to be in the trap. Well there were death that may have been the case but there are definitely had been people in the trap. Sauce it is. I hit plenty of balls in the trash but then we were instructed. Pull them out and just play them like you know no closer to the whole but you play them. Drop ticket drop. But you don't take a penalty you just pulled. You're not playing trump's leaving I gotcha you still. Are you still hitting Jeff proper irons? He's still going with the with the hybrid. Hyper band this duty. This never seen whip someone whip out African eight iron hybrid course. I don't know how you play with those clubs man. I don't know how you do that. But more power to you. I will say this though it fell like I'd been itching to play and then I would watch the match to on Sunday and that was a that was really fun to watch. Made me all the more excited to get out and play But once I was out there was like what did I need this? Like my thanks to my wife. She's like you know what your birthday go. Ahead go out enjoy with my buddies in my youngest brother and And once once you're out there like boy I just like in a world but does not fill the normal normal if it did it was It was really really good and You know no frustration. Over botched four iron approach or anything like that so that was That was pretty pretty cool so Dig that if you are if you're able to get out I I would certainly suggest it in a socially conscious way. It's actually the one sport that really enables itself to To all of that so I did a. I did have a good time with that thing. I'll tell Ya yes I have started. Billions O- how many episodes okay hold on hold on? I like little. I like our little offseason. Tv Ketchup things. So you're caught up on succession loved it. Okay well if you have not watched accession if you're not caught up just fast forward for the next thirty five to forty seconds or just real quick okay so you did love it. I actually thought like I liked the show. I didn't love the show in the final two episodes of the second season. I was like okay now. Let's get going now. It's actually now. I'm like okay now. It's starting to get good. I called it when Kendall did that. I knew he was GonNa do that. Did you sense that he was going to do it? And when he left the boat I did not see it coming. But let me ask you this. Do you think do you think is? Father is pleased or upset. I think he's upset because there's some I I liked. I read all the yeah. I read all the reviews. Dad knew what he was going to do before he did it. They thought that dad pushed him by saying. You're not a killer pushed him to do it in other words. Got Him to do what he really wanted to do was like let's keep this thing in the family. I'm not going to survive it. You Kill me. Keep it in the family interesting okay. Well I was once that finale aired I was like we gotta wait even longer. 'cause because of all the coronavirus pushing back all this stuff okay. How many episodes into billions are you? I'm on season two through this first of all. I'm not injured by nature so like you're GonNa be you're going to be ahead of me. No time like two episodes into season. Three we just watched the I two two nights ago here but yeah it's it's better than do you like it more than succession already. Here's the thing. I like succession more because I think it's smarter. I think it's actually like it's dark. Funny Kinda it is. Yeah so I think. I like secession more but I will say this billions much easier to fly through episodes days zip to meet my favorite character between bull shows. Is Bobby Axelrod me for sure? And it just seems a little. I like windy roads. She's also very good. Yes Wendy rose very good. I'm glad you're on the bill. I would not steer you wrong men. That's you're going to be all caught up before I am because I just can't keep up with that for a four hour long. Show they really do fly by sometimes long shows. It's like a forty five minute show. Yeah you get a thirty minute. Show no problem sometimes. The hour-long shows even it's a good show like he just kind of drag but the billions does not at all. It's like it's constantly moving. It's going it's it's never rarely boring. Yeah when you This WON'T SPOIL ANYTHING AT. I'll just But by the time we get to the end of season two I think you'll like how plot where it goes and where it moves in what the characters are doing and how things twist a little bit but good to know all right caught up. You're catching up billions. I'm there with you. And once they do and the next thing and I might hit the Paul's billions the new Jeffrey Epstein documentary. Dropped on Netflix's Today. Oh it did you get into that. I'm interested in that I'm fascinated by the whole story. How boy yeah like? I listened to three different Jeffrey Epstein. Podcastone man what doesn't like that. It's incredible how that guy got away with it for so long. That is for sure just hideous nece without a doubt because everybody knows the surface level story but like these. Podcasts broke it down from how he got his money. How he built this thing is just like what like what? How did people allow us to go on? Like it's one thing if you just kind of a creeper with kids. Yeah what are we doing now? I'm just fascinated by the whole thing and so I might have to break from billion Paul's billions knockout four episodes Jeffrey Epstein Documentary Divac. But I'm I'm Dan with billions. We're all will we'll recap missy see. You're you're just tearing through this on your own time. Billions is is a show that my wife really really likes so I GOTTA. Watch it with her. So I'm on their schedule. We're getting and we do like to week. That's just not going to be caught up until frickin September I get about. I'm on average probably two a day. I hit to and get one in the morning before the kids get up and then one at night after they go to bed. That's usually one building. Let's wrap this up so you can get sh- today down south to South Carolina south to Terry Teagle. Legends are now and thank you for listening if you enjoy the PODCAST. One person about it. If you're not subscribe please go subscribe anywhere. You subscribe to podcast. I'd appreciate it appreciate you. Please do that with a talk to real till then the PGA tour has an official return date and the first cut on the CBS. Sports podcast network is here to get you prepared for Golf's return in June joined. Mark Immelman Kyle Porter Greg and myself rick. Gaiman were still coming at you three times a week with the latest news interviews and flashbacks. So what are you waiting for? Come join our group. 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Brighter Than the Sun

Things Above

13:14 min | 8 months ago

Brighter Than the Sun

"I'm James Brian Smith. Welcome to the things above podcast. You're listening to episode sixty three three if you missed the pilot episode of this is your first time listening this. This is a podcast for what we call mind discipleship. It's a podcast for those who want to set their minds on things above. That's where the name of the podcast comes from from Colossians. Three bursts to were pulses. Set your minds on things above my friend. John Orangeburg said this you have a spirit and it is constantly instantly being shaped by what you hear and watch and say and read and think and experience. John's talking of course about spiritual formation formation. Everyone like to say is being spiritually formed. Not just the people who are pursuing a religious life and John said you habit spirit and it is being formed constantly. It's being shaped John Ads by what we hear and watch and say and read and think think and experience and that's why we do this podcast. We want to help you here and think and experience things from above the kinds the things that will shape you into Christ likeness today. Stop from above is this God is happy about you when my son Jacob who by the way is the producer of this podcast and is now twenty seven years old. But I digress. When my son Jacob was little he he said something to me that was incredibly sweet and endearing and I have to be honest? It made me cry the first time he said his grammar was not right but in a way that even made it more touching one day he walked up to me and he asked this dad. Are you happy about me now. I I'm not sure what he had been doing right before. He asked me the question but I suspect it was probably drawing playing or building something I just remember the he walked up to me. Look me in the eye and ask Dad. Are you happy about me. I think what he was asking was. Are you happy with what I just did. Or maybe happy with what I've been doing. I'm pretty certain he was just seeking my appraisal for something he had been doing or something he just done but the way he phrased the question absolutely broke my heart because Jacobs actual question was not about whether I approved of what he'd done but but whether or not I was happy about him about his very being. Are you happy about me. What a great great question and my answer was and is unequivocally yes I was and am so happy about Jacob by by the way please allow me the grace to continue using this incorrect grammar during the rest of this podcast? Because I think the notion of someone being happy about is is deeply profound in exactly those ungrammatical words. I remember giving this big hug and I remember I started to kind of weep deep which was probably a big surprise to him his little five year old self was probably thinking. What's wrong with dad? Or what did I just do. Made him hug me so hard or made him cry but when he asked that question I could see on his face a deep desire to have me his father be happy about him. Of course most of us I want everyone to think well of us and it hurts when we discover someone dislikes us or is upset with us or is unhappy with something that we've done but At the deepest core we long to know if the significant people in our lives are truly happy about us. Our parents are the first people well we want to know are happy about us. They're the ones who brought us into this life and there's no getting around our need to have them above others to be happy about US having their approval acceptance and hopefully lumper us is essential for our well-being. I recently saw an interview with a famous actress from the movies of the nineteen fifties. She's now eight years old and she had this marvelous career career. She enjoyed fame and fortune and his lived a pretty charmed life but when the interviewer asked her about her relationship with her father other who'd been dead for over forty years she suddenly began to weep all she could manage to say was I loved him and I loathe him and through her tears. She shared that. She desperately wanted her father to love her but all all he could manage to do was to be critical of her. Are you happy about me. It's our heart's cry and even though someone on May have been gone for forty years still that longing that hurt is just as real. I mean there. She was weeping. When in this interview view over something that happened decades earlier? Maybe we were fortunate enough to have parents who are truly happy about us and let us know in enough ways to make us believe it but many listening I suspect did not have that our parents after after all human beings which means they are flawed and limited and broken people. They're human if I had to guess I'd speculate that most of us live with some some amount of deficit when it comes to truly feeling loved. I mean loved without condition by those significant people in our lives and that is why for me. The real healing comes not from chasing the love and acceptance. Dare I say happiness of others regarding our existence since that healing comes when we encounter the trinity the Father The son and the Holy Spirit. I spoke in a great deal about the trinity on this podcast. And I don't do that because I like to talk about deep theological ideas I do. So because the trinity is at the heart of this universe and because the trinity is the answer to while everything you may be thinking. Well Way Way Jim. How does the Trinity Eighty connect with this idea of being happy about our existence? What a great question just put into your minds the late great great theologian Ray Anderson? who had the privilege of having as a professor when I studied at Fuller said this profound truth? Ministry Precedes Needs Theology. Let me just stick with that for a moment or should I say unpack that deep. Thought because you know. I like to unpack on this podcast. Ministry ministry refers to the action of God on our behalf so the Ministry of God or the action of God is God's work toward us and what Anderson saying is God's ministry God's Action Toward US determines our theology which is how we think about God so the allergies not merely dry speculation about God saying things like you know. God is all powerful Omnipotent or on knowing omniscient initiative or that God is everywhere omnipresent. Those Omni's as I like to call them well they're true but they don't tell us much about the heart of God God for that. We need to look at God's ministry namely what God has done. That's what Ray Anderson saying. So now we turn into the Christian story. God became human. The word of God took on flesh and dwelt among us the son of God by by the power of the spirit healed and forgave and showed love to the least the lost and the unlovely the second member of the trinity Jesus Willingly died in order to cancel our debt of sin to reconcile us to God even while we were enemies that is God's ministry or rather the Trinity's ministry on our behalf and what does that ministry teach US theologically. Or what do God's actions tell us about who god is or even more to the point. What do the Trinity's Action tell us about how the trinity feels about us. The actions of the Trinity are shouting to us. This this very thing. The Trinity is happy about us. Do you believe that the trinity is very very happy. Maybe about you but I can almost hear the butts in your minds Jim. I'm center. I mean I've really made a mess in my life. There there is no way God is happy about me. Well I would ask you this. On what grounds do you believe this now. If view of projected onto God some human image of a person who loves on the basis of our behavior. Then I understand why this is difficult to believe. But here's where the trinity corrects this false projection God. The Father Sends The Sun not to condemn the world. John three seventeen but to rescue it. While we are sinners Christ dies for us Romans. Five eight that's how Paul says in that adverse God demonstrates his love for us Romans. Five eight is such an important verse. Let me read it again. God demonstrates his love for us in this while we were still sinners. Christ died for us to hear the actions actions the ministry in adverse God the father and God the Son die for us and in doing so demonstrates straights that God loves us while we are sinners it proclaims not when we shape up or when we get better or when we stop sending no it says while we were still sinners but we get so down so dejected. So sad all all because we think well. I'm not really lovable. I'm not loved or we think maybe all is lost or we think there's really no hope be of good cheer friends and listen into this and this is one of my all time favorite quotes from one of my all time favorite people John Cranston. I've quoted him before Jonah Kronstadt was the nineteenth century Orthodox priest and this is one of my favorite quotes from him. He writes when you are dejected. Remember this that God. The Trinity looks upon you with is brighter than the sun. Oh it's so good. I have headquarters again when you're dejected. Remember this that God. The Trinity looks upon you with is brighter than the sun It's so good I could hear it over and over again God. The Trinity looks upon us with is brighter than the sun. Think about that. Here's a thought from above right now. God the Trinity is looking upon you with is that are brighter than the Sun God. The Trinity is indeed very very happy about you. 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The Evolution of Virginia Basketball and the Art of the Altercation with Justin Anderson

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The Evolution of Virginia Basketball and the Art of the Altercation with Justin Anderson

"Today's subsidized today. We are talking with University of Virginia Basketball Legend. I'll say legend all use. The L word just Anderson. He's he joined us for a pretty long discussion. We got into it about Bennett. Ball the rise of Tony Bennett. The Virginia Win in the national change of I keep asking guys Basically argue annoyed that your Alma Mater. One after you left I. That's a common question. I ask guys never says No. Everyone's like I'm very happy for them. Absurd into feel like date. Maybe I'm the only person the world that has that train of thought it's a very one and done train of thought during my year. We didn't do it so I'm good on that but I kinda. I respect the fact that he was incited and Justin Anderson. I mean he's one of those guys that I dream that would go to Carolina but they took jp Tokyo and said you remember that and He terrorized on we. We did a thing with him. Where we went through all the altercations. He's been in his career and we had him explain. Why it is the is gets all these altercations. That was pretty funny because you just got to see him slowly realizing like yeah I do kinda mix it up a lot. But but the funniest part though is that it's like not all his fault so trying to try to rationalize how can you get in so many altercations? But it always not be your fault. What's going on here? Was it was a fun exercise. I it's it's a sign of right logic wrong. Place de happens to be the wrong place. A few too many times on a basketball court We're GonNa talk about the NBA. Come back maybe a little bit of time Bobby Hurley Story. He's got a little beef gone with his death. Arctic Record Arizona State it is an absolute. It's your we're to get to all I would. Durham all right day before. Get into the Bobby Hurley situation. Which I know anytime. A coach K. Disciples. You're you're I WANNA I congratulate my sister She had a baby this week date her second child. I have another niece that has been brought to the world. In under normal circumstances I would not mention this. It's not exactly worth mentioning other than yeah. It's just not worth many. What there is some controversy tate and I WANNA get your thoughts on this. So the baby was born Tuesday nights slash Wednesday morning. The official time that it was born was midnight Wednesday morning And they obviously my. My sister went into Labor before the she went into Labor. Deny she went to the hospital Tuesday night in her mind. She had the baby Tuesday night. The baby officially comes out on the DOT at midnight. The nurses in the room after the fact explain that the clock in the delivery room is actually a little fast my sister. My brother-in-law are of the belief that the baby's birthday should be Tuesday that was born like at eleven fifty eight eleven fifty nine Tuesday The the official birth certificate says Wednesday morning. It has become a massive controversy in our family. I'm asking questions of I. I'm saying review the tape. I'm asking like wind. There are a lot of questions. Where does where does? Where do you stand on this and then also like win? Win is a baby born in the first place. Is it like a touchdown situation where it crosses any part of across the plane? Is it like soccer. That the hall Ho Ball has to be out of bounds for be. I think the whole Baugh baby has to be out and it's funny because as you say this my brother and his wife announced that they're going to have another daughter so we're both going to have to these. So this is what is going on in the world I think the baby has to be completely out. We have to confirm that. The baby is healthy And then we say the baby is born to. The baby was born on Wednesday and confirmed Boorda Woods. Okay all right because I said cutting the court. I think that that's a pretty. You can't dispute that. It's like whatever the whatever the scissors that's how it works right just use get like some substandard office supply a cut it. That's what I thought it was but apparently it is with a full babies out but yeah there's a big controversy. My brother in law is very adamant about celebrating the birthday on Tuesday Twenty I believe it's the twenty six then. My sister says her birthday will be the twenty seventh so that this is going to be fun. This baby is going to have a fun life every first round two birthdays. I mean that's that's true. Going to be a double double birthday party so anyway. That is a enough that we have to talk about Bobby Hurley. Take so newsbreaks. This week that Bobby. Hurley December sent an email to his athletic director. Ray Anderson about we remember the story. There's a booster enters. The state was basically sexually harassing slash. Allegedly sexually assaulted where reform the spectrum of of what was going on. Disturbing behavior was just very disturbing creepy behavior towards the wives. The wives of a Amazon staffers including Bobby Hurley's wife including Hurley's wife so they address the situation Anderson. The Athletic Director Apparently Tells Hurley. It's going to be taken care of. And then the next game happens and this booster is sitting very close to the core making everyone uncomfortable yet again so hurley sent an email basically saying what the hell's going on here and it's it's very. I don't know aggressive. We'll say a through a freedom of Information Act. Y'All who believes finds this email of course publishes all the details says this is going on and then tries to turn into a thing and Bobby Hurley released a statement this week. This is my relationship with athletic director. Ray Anderson today is strong we will work together. Alongside Mild Standing Coaching staff towards the continued success supplements basketball which to me read like a statement. Says I hate this guy so much. It is the exact statement you put out when you're like I hate this guy and I'm GonNa Overdo it on purpose my statement So there's trouble in paradise state because Arizona State. They're on they're on. They're on the come up. Just wait till Bobby Hurley gets his recruits in their what. This is your to him. You're third third here. He's only he's just got higher. I'll let him get his recruits. Their Amazon state has a good thing going. But now all this other trouble trouble in paradise right because Bobby Hurley. As we've talked about plenty of times he is. Mr December and trouble happened during the paradise of December was December Seventh. So while he's on his throne while he is taking over. College basketball. Not Losing Games watching Martin shots or maybe we're on the floor. He's also dealing with this. He even mentions in one of those emails like it was directed the athletic director's daughter and wife. How how we feel about it. It's about a sliding scale. He granted tour three on a scale as far as what he deemed to be disturbing. That wasn't great And like you said just the idea of scale not ever mind the three but like just the scale in general of on scale of one to ten. How no one's ever like you know that. That's not what we want to see. This puts. We talked about it. We texted off. When I saw the story it puts a weird spin on all the positive stuff that's going on. Hurley would have made the tournament three straight years. They got top recruits coming in It was all spinning the right way. I on a state and now this whole story you could see some programs that probably one top coach Bobby Hurley. Maybe reaching out devolve early and saying. Hey you don't Wanna deal with disturbing behavior from boosters at your school why don't you come to USC not a? Why don't you come you know? Do I mean we can listen? A myriad of schools may be duke in three years But Bobby Hurley. I think this being public opens the door for people to try to recruit him which I think is interesting. Well it which is how I see this plane out. That's that's how I see this which is a bomber because for all the jokes. We like to make about Bobby and boy. Do we like making those shows I have paid more attention to Arizona State basketball in the last few years than I have in my entire life. Probably and it's not just because Bobby Hurley is Bobby Hurley. Like they're actually. It's not just empty calories in and we love the Mr Similar thing and he does have a knack for getting very very hot December and then just fading once. starts but in general the job he is doing. I think you have to agree that he's doing a great job yesterday. Like he's making them relevant. He's they`re. They're winning more often than were accustomed to seeing Arizona State Basketball Program win and it just felt like I don't think I I. I don't think there's anybody that thought. When he took this job that he was going to retire at Arizona. State but Anytime you see a guy like kind of building something like this you start thinking like may maybe could. Maybe there's something here. Maybe this is a long term player. But Yeah I'm with you. I think this is the the beginning of the end of the State Bobby Hurley relationship. And that doesn't mean. I think it's going to happen before next season. That doesn't mean it's going to happen in the next two years but I think the clock is now ticking on bobby early exit or or maybe not. Maybe maybe athletic director. Maybe Anderson leaves but I I am not buying statement whatsoever. My relationship is strong. We will work together You can't send those emails and have that I I don't know I just don't think you can come back from that all that you can't you can't unring that bell of basically emailing your your boss saying what the Hell is going on here. I don't think that bill and I think Yeah the clock is now ticking. But it's just a matter of of win at this point right and there's a there's a countersuit going on with the booster. He he suing for damages. Up The five million dollars at this point saying that it was all overblown and all this sort of stuff as well. So like this thing is going to draw out this is going to be a continued story and To be quite honest with you if I was air zone was the wildcats and I saw this whole playing out in it. I know that I have a lot of heat on me with with the incidental. A our own code for Shawn Miller. Why not go? Try to poach bobby early. So you WANNA stay in this television and the premier program. That's a Blueblood. I mean why not why not. That's what I think will happen with this though. I think it's just this is so that Y- private this story Legitimately dirty laundry that comes out as public. Who knew that we all you had to do is do a freedom of Information Act. We didn't have to ask people to sit a stories. All you gotTa do is ask the public records request at least emails. Yes please we need to see the tapes and Bobby Hurley. After we've seen the tapes I think he is one of the top coaches on the list for people you want to reach out to. I mean we saw the under forty list of Westville. Our number one is that much. Hope for guys to come save a program. I think Bobby Hurley is one of those guys. I don't even think Dan Hurley's one of those guys at Uconn but I think bobby is like I said there's a like a school like have. Ucla didn't get Mick Cronin last year. And they're still wound with Steve Off. You're trying to keep him out less really all. I think that was because my mind immediately. Anytime coach K. disciples news anytime. I started to sniff a divorce between the coach k. Disciple and the school that he's at my mind is going towards what? Where does he fall into coach? K. successor power rankings. We have an updated those in a while by the way. Should we do this? How do we see this right now? Because I think Bobby Hurley might be at the top of the list right now as you not. Who How do you see your better at this than I am? Where what is the coach k? Successor as of today if coach K. announced today Corona virus situation has be freaked out. I just I've done a lot of thinking and I think I'm just GONNA hang up now. I'M GONNA turn it over to you guys want to hire. Where does it go? Who who is the number one guy on the list? The number one guy on the list I think is I'll start with three. I think there's a top. Three number three is is capable at. Pittsburgh and he's doing the ACC You know let let's see if I can build it somewhere else can build a stalwart. Acc to prove myself you coach k. That I can do this. Ike recruited this level. Whatever whatever that's number three number two is Bobby Hurley. The better version of cable any e comes at Duke he has not been in the ACC he is not tainted his image within the ACC comes. Clean it doesn't have the stench of the Oklahoma exit evacuation. Yeah yeah there's not. There's not all the hang ups that come with with the cable re entry into the Duke. Seen Right Bobby Hurley calms. I Remember Volley Bobby Hurley. Remember late near the those of the Duke Teams People Endure of love so much he comes in and and clean things up but number one is simple in its for legacy and that's what coach k. Cares about this bill. We're talking about this is coach K.'s. Empire this is not do helps K. puts the K. In do it just should just be K. And let me just tell you what he wants he wants Larry. Brown has the dean. Smith is coaching tree. He wants the idea that someone can win in the pros and the winning knowledge. I know where you're going with this in the guy that can do that and he has a player in Utah. Donovan Mitchell in the team. That could be built to make a run for title out. West depending on how you feel about the Utah Jazz. When Snyder has always been number one and I think coach K. loves Quin Snyder because Quin Snyder doesn't want to be number one and everyone everyone likes. Who got away. You know what I mean. Everyone's like it was going to call him. What's talked to Kuwaiti? Let's Talk Strategy and I think if when was able to win in the NBA and then come back to college and when it do get that Larry Brown check mark. B The second guy to do that coach k. Has Coaching Tree is? He's passing Smith all across the board in his mind and he's done you can rest in peace. I like it I think I think you're you're onto something happened. What about Whoa Jello? Whoa Joe I feel like the last time we did. This is probably probably well over a year to be honest with you. Would you probably at the top of the list? Well they're four and five right calendar toward your four and five and I think they both like you said with Bobby Hurley. They You know. Put the flag down and said. I'm mark basketball I Love Chris Farley Chris Collins Casey saying we went to the incidentally tournament that one time you guys remember that please believe stay there dark ends an amateur. Have to be off the list at this point. Are they old? Have they been around through lot like you? Don't walk INS is off the list. I think anchor a chance just because he's doing at Harvard. What you have to do it do yeah so I think he's playing the same system and then I would say shire is way too young. They're not going to get the shire anytime soon. But like coach k. Is Not going to retire anytime soon. So I like right now. Shires very low on the list. But what about a world where I for twelve for the next twelve years K Still Koji and Shire is suddenly like forty five and he's been an assistant coach for the last fifteen years. Maybe shires maybe mix shows you what you like Mike White so you always throw Mike White's name out but that's that's the Kevin One. Obviously but that that kid that's not going to be the successor right. Yeah he's the guy after the guy. If nepotism works at Duke what we think it may There's a chance that Kevin. Why call the shots and have coach k? Is that far removed? Let's say quit. Snyder's just not call him back he still chasing the NBA dreams. Will Chris or done capable final? Pittsburgh Bobby Hurley. Said you know some other big time school. And he's at Texas or something he was like. I don't I don't WanNa go back to do. I'm good thing coach. Baby says Kevin. It's your pick Yeah you know and you got your Guy Mike White. He goes up there but yeah it's definitely going to be coach. K.'s. Call in so Mike Way is not happening but yeah I think Bobby Hurley might be. I don't know I I. I'm with you Quin Snyder. Probably Number One but if coin. Snyder doesn't want. Is there even all the other guys on the list? I feel like the one hundred I mean capable one hundred percent. One cable wants it early. Wants it on down the on down the line So of the guys that like actually actively want it early might be the number one and it's just a it's a again. I don't expect anything to happen anytime soon. Hurley's to coach some states issue. You might even coach next year. I don't know but I just I don't any anytime athletic director to coach or getting into this. This is not a I. Don't think this relationship this going to last much longer than a year to especially when the fans are all on the side of the coach pretty avidly. They're basically like we love what we're doing. We're recruiting top. Guys are winning games. What's going on here? Like I said the might be Ray Anderson Leaves Arizona State Bobby Hurley sticks around the he he gets to Higher Bobby. Hurley hires his own boss. And he says you're bring a hand. He Goes Bill. O'brien he is the he just takes over the entire program. Yeah so I stay. I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to get rid of Bobby Hurley out of your program. I'm just saying the way the way the power structure currently existed on state. I would bet the House that that's not going to be power structure two years from now. I JUST. I don't I don't see that. That's that's how it's going to work out but I don't know I've been wrong before all right. Let's talk to. Let's talk to Justin Anderson Showy Burr. Manderson Nathanson Yeah. Let's do it are joining us. Now is a university of Virginia legend. He is one of the founding fathers of of the. Tony Bennett will say that. The Tony Bennett era of Virginia basketball I would say it's what's eight Malcolm. Brogden Joe Harris Justin Anderson. Kill Mitchell or those. The four RENTA's may be London. Davey throw parenthesis in there His name is Justin Anderson Justin. I want to start here Your Alma Mater. One Twenty nineteen national title. I just want to get your general thoughts on on how this all played out. Your thoughts is the guy who has I said you were one of the founding fathers. You built this program into its current state and now they win the national title after you graduate. Was there any any sort of resentment where you where did you watch the game? What were your feelings? I'll feel like you deserve a ring. Give us your just overall thoughts on Virginia one in the two thousand nine hundred zero and I mean you just kind of brought back some memories of Paying Michigan for me my Scott Johnson. Those guys those guys really paid the way. They kind of had a slogan they They con the Wa It was the turnaround year. I was young Malcolm Team younger q really young Joe. So those guys really Kinda they they had emission turning around but I came in with the mindset of this is where I'm from my state like they can turn it around when I'm going on a mat so we came in with the same goal in as far as the between one thousand nine hundred who are still ring Jenkins because the grown Iris Those guys were incredible. Like those guys that I helped recruit is so that was kinda sweet in itself so I felt like I was part of it in the sense of like actually knew the guys that knew where hearts and they were really loyal dedicated basketball players and I think that means a lot in the world now because usually guys who wanna come in and make it all about themselves and I wanna go one and done like these guys were on Gaza educated to their process. They all they went through so special connection with me guys. That is well out so I was there at the final four luckily plane in Atlanta in we were Kinda in that. We're at the season. I don't WanNA use tanking but you can with that where you want but at a really cool coach Lloyd Pearson Close we affiliate. I was hearing landon with him as well as I. Your Head Coaching. J. You'd better be gone to the Actually I'll take you back. I didn't know how to ask. How could go to this? Game in Minneapolis. And he breakfast before game. Play Milwaukee Jeddah. Better be going to the game tomorrow. I was like really like I can go is so he agrees to go to fly out there and be be there for for. There are a lot of you guys. They write a lot of the former players. Were were in. Minneapolis for the title game Yeah Me Malcolm Joe Hall in a few of the guys that are. Maybe it's a habit. We were really strong. Yeah that's cool man. That's cool that you guys like all. I don't know I don't need to explain to you. The perception of what Virginia Basketball was before the twenty nineteen title happen. And you guys just all be that family and You know stick behind each other even after the thing I don't know I feel like that was almost a blessing for Virginia. Basketball is like all of the like the narrative of West Virginia basketball became. It's like everyone who was in the program or part of the program. It just made your circle that much tighter than to see you guys all show up at the twenty nine hundred thousand gave state and I were there to we city up. We actually got our tickets and the Virginia section. We're probably sitting not that far from we started pointing out. We saw Malcolm. I know I saw Devon Hall there to I. We just started pointing all the guys. Are there just. How cool was that? I'm not sure if every program would have that but you guys seem to have that. And that's that's one of the coolest things about Virginia thing. It was super worked for us. Because like you said we kind of saw the groundwork that was kinda late to give their name at go you know my curtis unbelievable strict goes obviously. Tv His name his ASS for themselves. But we I was our motive is like we're GONNA get coach a new weight room in the only way they can get a new weight room as if we were national championship. Point hopefully been working on his weight room now but you know we kinda saw everything we have been visioned it for ourselves and it's kind of like I want to play like caring a little bit right on a going. He do something you know you achieve something a High Level ACC championship. We got the chance to be able to accomplish. It will be like all. We're going to go get this championship. We kind of fell short. Have Someone Your family member your child or whatever kind of come up and do editing. You feeling that kind of You replace super proud of those guys demanding to this day like continue. This is something that we could just talk about in for next wiped down yet. You mentioned Family Justin and one of the things that we talked about Once upon a time was that Tony Bennett is very similar to a modern version of Dean Smith. Right needs is had. This controversies this early on people don't like the system. You know there was some some of that that happened with four quarters Carolina. Run up and down the run. Four corners people take Was Cheating the game that way people said that about Tony Bennett in decision. That Virginia was running. Maybe not that far but they were just upset with how they they were playing. But now you see you guys have this podcast together. You guys are all talking to each other. All the time. Coach Bennett is is always hanging out in it. It just seems like Virginia like Duke as the Brotherhood. Carolina has the Carolina family. What is the Virginia version of that? What would you guys call yourselves or is it just a family? And he don't nickname her Monica or a Hashtag or anything like that kind of goes with are also is boring as it comes. I mean we're just support. He is at were band of brothers We don't have any hashtags anything kinda going for ourselves. We're just a bunch of guys who we came together. We were kind of you know use force in we use defense to help us land. We just knew that if we did this together we get we can enjoy the rest of our know being able to bond over championships own wishes cool nicknames early. Bang we have any Becomes much did you guys pay attention to the outside noise a particularly in twenty fifteen when when I think. Twenty fourteen was the breakthrough year for Virginia basketball. When you guys he doesn't want to. Acc that you're right. Yeah Yeah you want you want. Acc twenty four. That was kind of like the put. Been a ball on the map of two thousand. Fifteen was the year you guys like had high expectations. Of course you have the finger injury and we all know how it happened there but throughout that entire season off it was basically like you in Kentucky. The to you guys had to the greatest defenses. I've ever seen and all my. You're watching college basketball. Were basically you in Kentucky that same season and a lot of the narrative around college basketball. That you're was how unwatchable became a lot of it. Was your fault you in particular. You Basically Malcolm Brogden That became like the narrative. College basketball was like you. Malcolm Brogden Willie Cauley Stein. Ruining College basketball. Nobody can score on these guys An in Virginia just the perception of West Virginia basketball was Kinda. Got Out of control. There how much you guys pay attention attention to that you like revel in. This is awesome to see that. Like you're driving all these people in saying that they can't even watch if they feel like you guys are breaking basketball or you just block out all the noise and just focus on winning and that's pretty much it. I mean I remember I think. Put an article the club. Trillion or Yeah right boosted on walkmans crazy. I mean like everything was just fallen into place. Everybody felt a part of it on which I was and I remembered beaten. The apartments Best Friend in college and I remember watching the news. Gaza just like babies ruining basketball. You see article on twitter. These guys are ruining basketball. And at the time we're just twenty one year old guys trying to make it like we're trying to your family's lives we're trying to change our own on not only that where institution that requires so much from you from scholastic standpoint right like finished my degree as we speak in. We're we're doing all of this and for people to just constantly disrespect. We were number will behind the team in Kentucky. Excuse me we're number. Two of them. Were behind the team conflict. Run we're watching. Tv just like please just lose lubes Lube these guys. Obviously that teams town. The second book was coming off the interim tells you a lot But it got to applaud. We were just like yellow. Let's see him like let's figure way to make this thing happen. We wish college basketball work. That way. Obviously schedule's been the line way we need to but at the same time it's like man we're putting in all of this. We're doing all of these lateral slides in practice man. We're doing all of this stuff. Practice athlete disrespect so we kind of took it personally. Put that Shit on shoulder and we were like are human respect what we do now. I think it's Ross. Seen I believe is his name. He always sweets up Virginia basketball a thing of beauty Rusting rusting is a little late to the party. I mean if Tate Nike Patterson justice why this is where we were very early. Adopters to the to the ball. We we loved what we saw. I'm glad you brought up the article. I didn't want to be the one to bring it. Yes as everyone was saying you guys are Breaking College. Basketball's like this is actually amazing. Like I love how Virginia plays on. You guys played so well together. Particularly like twenty fifteen year that was. I don't know it was so fun to follow you. Guys all season and then take night became so invested in Virginia's program and we want to Tony validated. So badly and then it just kept not working out in March. Basically every That's that's part of the reason we were there at the title game was like we sat in the Virginia Were idiots that that that felt like we were somehow invested in this even though it was really no rhyme or reason why we should have been so invested. Yeah I mean it just. It just finally came to play. We just started to like I said use that as a chip on my shoulder man. We just started to finally realise are we talking buys his great. I grew up in Virginia so we will talk to my shots. Seecretary is the individual. Weren't talking about bridging program. You know it's a situation now where we put a program on only for each other so it all makes sense. I wish we could get past Michigan State of the two years in a row. They couldn't handle us. That was a great program they did but you know. Got The radio supposedly champions champions. I WANNA take it back just to the you mentioned me from Virginia and when you were young kid you're in fifth grade you decided the dunk basketball and from there. The legend started to grow up. You decided that's how it worked as you said you know what I might as well just dumped his basketball and let people know what's up And then from day the legend Kinda grew a little bit around you in eighth grade. You know a lot of people. There was a lot of hype. You go to Montrose Christian Academy there's terrence Ross Grievous Vasquez Kevin Durant all these guys. All these names were there. And you know you're an athlete. You're you're known as an athlete. But then you have to kind of grow your game and you earn your role there and you grow into your role and then you decide that. You're going to go to Maryland and Gary Williams is the coach in Maryland at the time. And they're still in the ACC in that whole situation is totally different dared mention Grievous Vasquez. Who was rate at Maryland will? What was that process like growing into the basketball player that you become right? Go from fifth grade all that hype and dealing with that and then obviously dealing with Gary Williams because he's one of our favorites here on the program. There would be so super cool to play for him. I remember him. Grapes always going at it so much energy in that. That's my that's my character like I was like I got to do when I get to do it. So so that would have been able to do but I grew up in a small town Much Rosser Population about eighty four hundred people on even to this town so to get wherever you needed to go. Arms form area was allowed back roads and things like this brought a lot of bikes into the play of dunking. If agree brother was in school bills in the middle of my favorite year in a row for will run off from couldn't necessarily afford the remote front we had the crate. You had the milk crate of necessary. I think that's that's probably the hardest room I've ever shot on issuer but that graduated to get into Ram also that we were super dedicated to playing every day. We got Ram we. Kinda just started succeed dunking different trades and watch it honored on contests and kind of just like trying to emulate things. Were smaller insult jet. Moving out and then fifth grade. We were auxiliary gym at. George Watt is naturally Washington. University was on that now. Drawn a blank. My brothers played in May Washington. University were playing. He was laying. It's another school and joining. Blankets is frustrating. Kind of blacks. We're of auxiliary jam and I remember my house like Y'all go get it like you can do it. I was like Ireland Dry Right Donald Dunkin and I think we both each other. We can do this and everything else. Just kinda history Spent a Lotta time dedicated myself to the crash in. Obviously you've athleticism as long as I could. I had to grow something else in the shortly after the three ball came in. Obviously defense is something that is just a will to warrant is a to on missile. We pair of with Virginia's boring they need so flair. They don't have any athlete. So just go be an athlete there and try to speed them up a little bit and trying to make them more interesting to wash. Kristen the jumping more things can work out the way they did. I'm just picturing the the opening scene of space jam with you. Say you're in fifth grade and you're like I think I'm just GonNa go and you're just looking at the rim and that messed me up space. Jam Messed me up so bad when I was little I watched that movie and I was like I think. I'm just going to be I if I just go out there and I put our Kelly and my headphones in I'll be able to. I'll be able to jump and don't I believe you. That's Zia except for us reality. It's like me. It was kind of Riyadh you mentioned development of Virginia. You're three or guy So we're currently in the part of the the college basketball calendar transfers are the the big thing and and everyone's talking about which programs they're going to and then it becomes like a larger discussion about transfer culture in so many guys are transferring. You feel like a a case where you're the argument for not transferring where you show up. Virginia you don't start right away you end up starting at the end of your freshman year than your software. I think he came off the bench. you're playing time is like kind of a little bit all over the place You're playing behind Joe Harris. He leaves you. You said you retool your jump shot coming into your third year and you turn into first round pick and it seems like you know like that. That is what a lot of the college basketball coaches. That roller is it transfers. Like a guy like you'd be like that is the the moderate there so my question. You justice is transferring. Ever enter your mind when you're you know you're you're your sophomore in your plan behind your your coming off the bench and you know how good you are or is this. Did you foresee this the entire way that you could just develop your game and stick it out like that absolutely a game? The Mind Remembers Muscle Law Year. We got blasted by Tennessee. We talked about this a little bit on our casts in London. He was the Gordon that we needed in going into this season. We just kind of went off. What happened last year and We knew Malcolm's working on His hammered relentlessly and we knew Malcolm wanted to try to show that he could be appointed so he can help his back. Then Malcolm Tuesday Malcolm a little bit ease up but he still stressed out about making being eligible back then. Malcolm was suber locked enemy. He's probably lacking been around in everyday. He's working his handiwork. In San got complete. I WANNA MAKE. Insulin are will let this year is the year to prove it. You'll play line Joe. BIG ORLANDO. Go to see. They just show how just not. We're not ready to play that one at all in London's just a freshman in his Kelly pace was perfect at the opposition in our office because he hasn't dogs wing next time to get after the so for me are to that to that really like offensive. I was like here. I am Kinda take an insulin. This university taking a chance on this program to be from here and come here and use it up. After leading Maryland in control for Jason La Costa recruiting me in that moment he realized that McCain Kinda went on be caught a little bit because I started to be my own head. I knew Burnett Coupla the big time schools that I won't mention because obviously Virginia her into pop song to me in my pops like well. You know there's this one team that that that they're dying. Have you like they keep calling? They WanNa Championship the year before. So you know. Who's you know? They are hungry. I'LL GIVE A. They were hungry. Ima- you know. What like their athletes. It just came across not. I'm not one that's going to run away from any type of competition. I'm not witness. Go wrong with any type of versity on which to me. I haven't had to experience Montrose. Waves in anywhere in my playing career. So this is so actually this actually change everything once I realize it's six million a year trophy in. Acc Awhile Nice it kind of all once. I realize like you know what I'm GonNa do advocating to feed in and I just put myself in a position to say I'm GONNA do whatever it takes for. This seem me Anthony Gill action. We're going through the same thing. At that time we just would be like. Yo should be dolls. The Bachelor sticking this thing out shortly after this war came. They called me one day. It was like get your finalists and they just wanted. I was like okay. That was never my old on. It was cool to be able to go through that kind of path that experience and it helped me because now I'm in the NBA. The constant down in the cost. You have to be the fifteen may one year in San of Maine another like it. All of it has really helped him playing career. So so the guys who were just you know I'm GonNa transfer because I wanna do me this and that this was never been. Yeah and I remember just in the few in that six months of the year trophy right this summer. Going Joe Harris leaves he goes to the NBA. You're going to the starter. That's moving into the starting lineup. And Tony Bennett tells you that coachmen and tells you that and then there was a story of right that you went to Chicago and you worked out with your cousin who was playing for the bears time and and work with with the trainer that was like civil trainer and all sorts of stuff. I can't remember the name of it was but I remember that story because you guys beat North Carolina in the Dean. Dome in two thousand fifteen and and I was at that game and I was like how did just get so good at shooting the basketball from the quarter. What is going on here? That you had like seven assists in that game as well and What was that summer like it in the coach Bennett? Put that on you to go in and do that or did you do there on yourself because like you said you're making that transition from six started. Well you kind of know the reason why Choose up a little bit for that. Unc game we talked about it. A little podcast token so I'll but outside of that me I went into the next season in a new job was leaving so we knew there was opportunity but versus Before the communities as the first year was nothing that you get here will be given like you have to earn so my new joe new going to be lacking shooting and I always been able to shoot the ball and I actually like the ball on from Beyond College Ranger. Nba Range on. It was just a matter casino ahead to figure out consistency on at a younger stage in my life than a Lotta people do. Because if I didn't I wasn't consistent you know shooting the basketball and Clinton work I could have lost my again potentially that I still have been already so what I did was my cousin. Place in innovative Career Champion germont wrong with New Orleans Saints Finished with Miami Dolphins on. I got the chance to go out there and spend some with him because two summers in a row now here at UBA. We had some success. But I can't be on this campus. It's again I come from here. I've been Jima whole And he was living in Chicago at the time. Claiming debaters in it was just a discipline that he showed me with his wife in cases of waking up every day. Same time breath is prepared. We're going to do our job instruments. Then we're going to go to the court and I decided to work Steve Out of Chicago. Who's phenomenal shooting development coach so when I came back from Chicago Sprint maybe three or four weeks when I came back from Chicago Mandatory Beckett? This time everybody in the email schedule. I came back in the gym doormat routine and I remember remember coach. Been Anchorage Wilfred kind of watch our neighbor laughing and I took offense to Ecorse so you kind of to devote my game but this is funny to you in kind of pissed me off in the sense of art like he'd laughing. GonNa you guys that I did without supposed to came back better. So coach Bennett actually kind of started to like what I was doing. Like Jerry Lewis. Es Drill where you lounge lunging set aside and shooting Hop forward spin with Kevin Durant pre-game like drills that Steve Kerr nominal when it comes to teaching shooting the basketball and So started to work in our remember. Coachloads came to me would coach. You have to say because I realized that Christina was in my case as my year what is going to say about me. Shooting forty trying to beat his forty five percent. I'm trying to beat his record. His College basketball record like he told us not to say anything to just let you go going. So the recipe season could vindicated. His lead me go. He knew wasn't taking shots. Trying to put myself in a different category in Asia. It's GonNa take the shots. I was actually pretty pretty cool story. About how our out in that? I think he actually started to a dachshund or sensitive to this. Oh that's great so I WANNA talk about this. Because you you're part part of what stood out to me in two thousand fifteen team. Maybe Fall in love with Virginia. Beyond all the reasons we talked about where I kind of just felt like I love the style play but like you and Malcolm Brogdon in particular. Were the two best player on the team in Twenty fifteen. You guys were both so likable. There's something about you guys like you didn't I don't know there's something those very very easy to cheer for you guys you had great personalities And you seem to just be a great represents representatives of Virginia. What was what was always fascinating to me. Was you always seem to have this edge you just in that? Lake? You not afraid to mix it up. We'll say and that has become true as you progress in your career. And so what I wanted to do with. You is basically this just you. You've been in a handful of. We'll call them altercations on a now that now that some time has passed in your emotions of calms. I WANNA revisit. Some of these and I WANNA get your. I want to get a breakdown of what happens and you look back on it. How how much you feel like you are to blame for what happened. That makes sense. Basically what this is my first trip to Charlotte Do Game when justice winslow grab your leg and you stood over like you're gonNA rip his head off and then you help them up and that whole thing and then I I was going to look back on. I was trying to find that today as researched everything and I typed in Justin Anderson altercation or something and there are so many results that came up that I was thinking to myself. How does this happen? How does a guy like this? That is a you know so mild mannered in this interview that we're doing You get caught up in this. But then at the same time justice wins low grabbing. Your leg is not your fault so I wanted to go through each of these individuals. Two instances in in you explain what happened. And how much was your fault now that we're looking back on it. So the Justice winslow thing what happened here Instigate him in any way. Give us give us the rundown here. Their game was college. Game Day right. Yeah it was college game. You guys were one thousand nine hundred at the time and number four in the country. Yeah I yeah yeah so I guess I'm beginning by saying like I think I've gotten to like eight too many altercations in basketball playing career. But we're from and playing at the Ymca Planet we call them. American family fitness another gym that we had in boys and girls all that you get into into these types of things all the right you this will bring so many vowed hard and push a push back but at the end of the you know the people you know the people at the club. You know the people that you know center. You know the people who you're playing against the justice winslow's whoever else were about to revisit so it's more just heated a moment in sometimes. I like to say like a black belt right. Sometimes you like blackout in the moment and then like reality sets back in. You'd have to understand that there are people watching that you know this. Obviously we're like you said nineteen and no country like their people constantly watching in. I can't go and be one person community in the show Out On the court so for me. It's like my parents. Were both of my parents together in everything to this day. They raised me to be respectful. But at the same time. Like you defend yourself when the time is right and for me. It was like in that moment absolutely risk at all. It's like all right justice. Like why would you do that? Shit like bullshit like so realize are he know what so you're in you're in Charlestown? Jp J just like come on man like that's uncalled for and afterward have the conversation with a Florida competition. But if I couldn't imagine if we're I would be right now. That situation plant out and I just thought on. Yeah Yeah Well. Those one of the funniest one of my favorite clips is just just because you had the visceral reaction readers. Like I'm going to kill this dude and then you call yourself into split-second or you know what instead of that. What if I just help them up immediately? Went from like war to like add. Never Mind I'll I'll let cooler heads prevail all right so so that that was that was the genesis of this idea and then as I started investigating more the one the other one. That's Kinda funny looking back on. Is the one from the preseason this year Marcus Morris bounce the ball your forehead? Wait before you go into the Marcus Morris okay. Here's one that you're missing the one that I was tripping on was that was I have. I have that on the list. We can do that one. Go to the new one. Yeah you were. Boxing out and your arms get tangled up. What what happened there so already knew he was a big dude. In can't I can't even like a kind of wish I could see again but I just remember. After the Game Darren Williams vet grey. Goose still talks to him to this day. I remember Darryl's like Yo you know he's like blacked-out or whatever it is that he has now. It's like well. I don't know how you're mad strong. You just like take my harmon. Lock me up Romola Rolla. Yeah so in the moment I was just a young kid. I was young. I kinda hot headed and now like I commend was so bad and they you know how. Nba fights are right like right. Created a whatever on. But it's like it's more just an intense heated conversation. You know right in front of each other but that that one that one I think that was the only one that I will say restricting because this is as Jalen Jalen rose says hold me back right around only back. Yeah I had on the list. Art Will Save the Marcus Morris. One for less about that. What about the Dwayne Wade One? Where the way way just inexplicably grabs your arm and you into the first road during the playoffs. What happened there? What's the story behind that? Well that was. That was the media row. Not The first right. Pay All right in that. That was another situation where asylum later actually end up coaching sign in the NBA. Top one hundred and it was kind of apple in cried down in house. Joe was is everything. Whatever we With that was just playing basketball. I remember Lloyd Coach he's a defensive coach in in Philly and he grabbed a hold of me and TJ McConnell He. He talked to revoke individually but he told me he was a hey TJ in talking to you we're GonNa need you both offensively to try to stop you. Wait a second unit which one you were put. Over keeping Thirteenth Man is going twelfth thirteenth man and out. I'm trying to. I'm trying to concede Stephen. Aba and trying to keep my career up in so he right book. Do whatever you gotta do. I need you to get in his head and you lock them down. I need you to do whatever it takes to kind of. Keep them from killing us because he's coming off the bench second unit when they win they win the ball games based off weeks so I kind of initiated that one lead you waited goaded. He's wanted are always growing up on initiating. That won't because when I came into the game shared right at his at it is. Kinda yeah type stuff but I just wanted to prove to my coaches like look whatever you guys need me to do. I'm willing to do. We ended up on. Win that series But I think because I kind of initiated by just touching them too much kind of buffing was doing everything just to get under. His wing was on a box out on to boxing form in. He showed me how strong he was in that. In that instance then fast forward a few plays later. He comes down he young. These are all like Internet. Means that you never want part of the I guess. In now he crosses over in. He misses the shot so I was good he made. It could've been sure. But that's what you want though if it like that him throwing you into the media. Isn't that validation that you're doing a good job like that's exactly what you're trying to do is frustrated right and with all due respect obviously hall of Famer like Bishou or they're even laced On it he wasn't able to do whatever he wanted. If you know the season before that I mean he was healing guys especially Houston big time my gang winners against a silly He was doing against us in so. I'm sitting on the bench like all you have to do this. And so now is my prove that is a matter who you are. I can gorge. Yeah Yeah Yeah all right so I had I had a few others are associated. Carmelo Anthony Guys WanNa really an altercation. it was just a back and forth in guy heated guys had to come in and that was a hold me back for sure and like no one really didn't really get physical but you guys were definitely John. What what was the story there? Twenty seventeen I believe because I think I got into eight too many of these things. Well that's what that's Hilarious to me. I didn't realize that this was her thing with you. Until and what's funny about? It is so many of them are. It feels like they're not your fault. You're just trying to block out the way and you described your arm but throws you and justice winslow's grab your leg Blake I. That's why I wanted. I wanted to get to the bottom of this. Justin is this. Your fault is our just a do. People Hate Virginia style of basketball. Before like what's going on here I think the biggest thing right is like nobody likes to be touched like I was watching the Jordan documentary in. I think my pops was preparing me for that. He didn't see the game changing this. We're GONNA pull up two steps over half core. You grab it by the before your head back. It's automatic file. He didn't prepare me for that. I mean I was playing against grown men emphasis was like ten or eleven years old and like I said rec centers former pros You know play two years up or three every year like I was a freshman playing seventeen Williams kindle Marshall and James Do and Travis Mataya Andre Dawkins I mean these are guys that were just bigger stronger fashion to me and I had to figure how could you know. Hold my own in a guy like mellow. I mean when he's Range if you don't touch them a little bit he's going bare issue in our. You know what I'm trying to carve out a better way for myself in you know but food on or played my family take care of. Everybody had to go out there and do whatever it takes against us. And that's one thing I think that a lot of teams and people respect me for that unwilling to card wherever point guard but with the whole thing was the same scenario it was kind of a running joke. Joel about it and then we liked joked about it for the rest of the season because he kept saying. Don't do that do that. Don't do that and it was like how great you have to be. Just three words in in Ysmael just like I like you. GotTa Make It easy for. You was just trash-talking man. It was just a lot of buffing. them later again at the end of the season career high against them in it was distract enemy. Necessarily IT WASN'T. It was obviously no disrespect or anything you know. I obviously have once again hall of Famer. Huge respect for mellow comes from the same area Maryland Baltimore area so I mean huge amount of respect. But it's just competitive fire in for me. Every night is a playoff game. When you're thirteen like I said thirteen fourteen fifteen guys. You don't get time to just go out there. It'd be cool and try to just you know trying to play everything own ear. I mean for me. I have to be able to gradient. Sometimes it gets you in a little bit of trump all right so the one I would say might be your fault and you can. You can disagree with me. It was the Russell. Westbrook dancing in the play offs. Where he he was dancing villain away like kind of walk in front of them. And you're trying. Antagonize them justice trying to listen. It wasn't muscle the day before we are in the playoffs as a as a rookie. Dallas Riccar loud legend. The Boston Celtics in two thousand eleven. Mba Champion loved my time in Dallas love coach. Carlisle Mark Cuban. All those guys the meeting before we play. Okay see coaches pissed because campaign and Russ West for. Do these dances before every game. He's like I'm just waiting for one of these suckers that just go out and interact one of those days. Charlie and the waiver says coach. You know what I mean you got it. What is so Charlie? We do our handshakes with our own team wrote. Let's go like I'm like. I'm like whatever so Rome bagging. Videotape cut short. Come right back. And he doesn't say complaints were with. That was twenty one and I was. I was real funny. Yeah you trying to play it off as though like you don't realize right there is so funny. Okay let's do the Marcus Morris one. We'll end on that one in the preseason. This year everyone seen the clip. If you haven't disco Goule Justin Margaret it's objectively. Just I'm sorry you fell victim to this but it is objectively funny. It's something in all my years of watching basketball. Never my life seen a guy. Just take up all BOP a guy in the face of you really must have been pissed off like what the Hell is the story here. I know you guys like getting into it a little bit before that happened but we never got into actually was interesting to me. What was really weird to me is human like I'm trying to make it seem and I'm not gonNa make any rainy to happen but at the same time like what happened happened in. It is what it is right and so the game. I'm trying to make the team in. I'm not sure asking brand like yellow. Like what are you GonNa do? Whatever so he like just killing killing the training Camp John Wall saying the same thing on. Just keep going to kill us so we play these guys who've been in there on this tough guy saying already right we remember probably for this kind of talking about some of that stuff earlier so before to gain. I was like I I see him started. That game matchup was a Muslim is so we started the game. And he's like I'm like A. Let's go look this year whenever stay healthy. He's like you too young fellow keep going. I see its on like like I didn't think anything of it. Whatever so at the time he wanted to prove himself for being like a score for them. If you watched the first half of that game he got a jacket. Obviously the second that but if you watch that like. I Made Everything. Tough made it very difficult. Come out of the game and he just goes on this chair. Somebody else's Garda. He goes on a tear. He's getting fadeaway breeze turnaround post up the only two voices scores on me which was a bad call. He got he gets to the cup foul any gets an one goes through my mind. League is the Emlyn no trash talker. Anything he said but he bounced me a is a we call him back. I would like is part of what it is right so then we come back out now. We're not doing that. We're not GonNa what I'm like. What am I just avenue? I like? Where's Charley Villanueva? I didn't need it because somebody going to sticking the only time you do. That is that you're crossing he also. Yeah Yeah so happen so we I I would say on a pressure up because I'm not sure he's already a seventeen year a great first half not against me. But I'm going back to do. My job is so a pressure up in droves the elbow and I look at me. I'm like ed by that. Was this close down the fingernail closer to take him whole knows off the mind. This is the most random you're not. We're not doing that. We're not doing what like. There's no doubt I don't also we should say it's preseason yes that matter is is so you know look at it. I'm like Yo. Ed What's going on and by the time. I look back in. I'm getting hit. Handled the ball in my. I'll even the make of it in like. Of course like look after the fact like everybody has twitter rangers come back into the reports blasting in now. I will say there was a moment where I was really embarrassed and I wish I would have done something about it in the moment but then look back at it and it was just in a bunch of guys around Lee. Hit me up whenever in. That's what kind of made me realize like I cool. Whatever it was like for me I was like like. Where did that even come from? I don't like it's never been any whatever so when I hit I don't even know how process it is. So you guys you guys have got game right. Yeah of course I if I could go back ruined excited to I don. I forget who it was but the guy that you start playing on these things man with should I hope? So we'RE GONNA we're GonNa Lord Immigra- throat read. That's where you're GonNa go quick when you of look back at it. He kind of look back on it. You say like you know what it is what it is glad that you know where I wanna be in life once again with the justice winslow distract where you wanna be is so much further than like Chris Johnson. Kobe Bryant Right Chris the best to pieces Koby Bryant. That's not what I'm here for like rations that go far beyond being just NBA basketball player. And I I to be able to get broadcasting and do things at the highest level so like that's a part of just who I am. I'm Kinda forward baking. That's not the message that I wanted to send other people on but the worst part about it is that like it comes across Baio sweet. We're just so wild to me is. You're obviously a nice guy a off the court. At least you don't have a reputation as far as I know is like being a dirty player. It's not like it's not like you're giving these guys. Cheap shots retaliating. You're just kind of Italianised. And you just gotTa play good defense what it seems like. What is this phoney? Look at back when you when you kinda stack them on top of each other. It's like is this do just that unlucky guys snap and just throw start thrown around. Wanted to fight him or see doing something. That's why I had to ask us. I decided to ask what no it's actually great. Because I never really talked about it like I refuse be I see me after. Choose to be that guy like when the moment comes That's what it is but is lawrence like trying to make it a big Ole public thing because knowing that kind of was the victim. If you will like that's not really why is it is what it is it happened? It's GonNa it's GONNA retire. It's our media. Right is going to recycle. You've got to kind of do. It's really like you as you know that these things happen off these things happen in practice all the time as you said you're growing up playing against guys older new. I'm sure there's a ton of altered like this is not it's not like there's the I don't know any cause for concern. The Guy's playing basketball will get into it every so often. That's a that's a normal thing to happen on basketball courts but anyway I don't know I just thought I thought it was pretty funny. They are the Larry's when I when I when someone put together the compilation of me getting into with everybody is like I gotta chill. Yeah I mean that's what comes with locking up and that's a good that's a good thing. Yeah that's a good thing. You're gonNA spend the narrative and say that you would have been great nineties basketball player and just pander to that era you know what I mean. Start talking to the Charles. Barkley of the world yes Akilah Neal's of the world start sending them tapes of you playing hard defense. You know what I mean. That's that's the next move. If that's the case they moved the first thing that they will say to me is lying should push them face. Flew back to back the those. I can't even handshake. I definitely can't punch right before we let you go. I I'd a couple of other questions number one. Can you give us any insight into Tony Bennett? That people don't know. Is there anything to Tony Bennett? Does that does not fit with his image line with his image does he have. Does he have a back Tattoo does he? Does he ride a motorcycle? Does the you know is. Is there anything to Tony? Like will be like wow. I didn't see the smoke cigarettes. Is He a chain smoker? Like is there anything that like or is really just as like straight lace as as we as we see on. Tv will if there were if there were over top. Hollywood even share it with you. Yeah you'd you'd be trouble if don't know if I'll get in trouble but this is family right he's like HAMAS figure. It's not only need office but know I mean. He's just a solid comment. He's a great example. The religions say through competitive. He he always talk about how. Jesus was this great man when at the same time she's Walker Ryan like he will come back and you know. Show fight when it when it was time is right and everything Season he you know He. He's just a great duty super competitive like he plays Ping Pong in. He tries to take it down on. He competitions trying to kill you. Any your trash talker. Yes yes 'cause you don't expect it though. Not like he's GonNa he's GonNa get a hold jim behind him in everybody's always talk crazy today. Now it's like you you'll get you'll get into a competition with you if you might. His game starts wearing you out your tongue hanging out. That's when you just saying things like will get so he'll wear you out kind of like you just lie. He's who guy like he you know everybody wants to be like TV nowadays right his job. Well all right. That's good. My other question was I was not aware that this was the Virginia tradition until I went to Charlottesville for the for the title Parade Celebration Day and all the fans. They're trying to get me destroyed the lawn and they told me about what the strict law with Kyle. Guy Came on the podcast. We asked him if he if you street the lawn stroke. Long stroke If the did he ever streak on he. He confirmed that he did Justed have you ever streak the lawn and for those? That don't know this means like what you get naked you run across the quad basically average. This is the traditional. Yes it's like. It's like the Rotunda the back of the room these steps. I guess the traditions from our taught you take your clothes off at the top of the steps rundown this stairs as they get you run around big statue at the end. It's probably sixty yard run. Maybe in run bag so my first time doing it was in the rain. I knew I was going to. I knew I was GONNA have to do it. S them myself. More year went in. I did it because I was in the rain and was a group of us than win winded in that came back and it was just it was just also junior year earliest junior year actually had to go the second time on because I was out ran into a beautiful lady. I have my friends in the restless history so actually Actually restrict actually want twice. Removed counts for anything inputs meeting in the legendary board on his definitely. I wonder what I wonder what the record is the all time record for Virginia students. Probably thousands is. That doesn't every hole this things that you're supposed to do before you graduate in. I don't even know if on the third of that list complete. It's it's it's a lot but you gotten drunk and gotten on the tables at the Virginian. That's the thing to or have you have. You fell down the stairs at Trinity. Those are the three things I was told her. That is slip when I caught myself. I didn't have many times I've seen people though. Yes I'm UNMADE. People bust their ass. I lived in myself. Luckily but is lawyers drinkable any surgery. when actually? I didn't enjoy that was waiting for drafted so I never did the drinking on top of the Virginia Obviously because I wasn't a fourth year like we have these heat tunnels that run all through the bottom of the the the the grounds in you're supposed to like go in one of those tunnels which sounds dangerous but people all the clapper so like I said. I'm not even a thorough week on review to make sure I got that undermine that is pretty much every tradition that every college is is sounds dangerous but people do it all the time that that is how you some of the College Experience. I think in this country back right now. Working all citizen might be Undergrad. Degree also won't be able to do this from my parents. They didn't go through this whole process for me to go three Not Given a chance to finish it up so hopefully some of these things when I graduate from we get goal. We'll tell you we've got anything else for him. The now I was GonNa say I appreciate you coming on justice for people that don't know you guys have the podcast right locker room access. And it's all of Virginia guys. It's rotating in and out talking about basketball so if you already enjoy. Marquette is an talking in fawning over Virginia Basketball. Listen to Justin and all the other guys actually yeah. If you like US talking about Virginia basketball you might like guys that actually know Jack over Justin. Thank you so much for joining us. Contenders success Please continue antagonize people. Let don't let me pointing this out that you should stop. That was not the point of this. This is just a funnel exercise for doing here. We Love Your brand basketball. We always have both Virginia. And you individually Thanks for joining us. Good luck with everything appreciate you appreciate absolutely. I'm I'm not initiate anything but whatever happens it. Kinda comes with the territory. I appreciate it sir. All right thanks just Anderson coming on and Titus I have to tell you that story. He mentioned that Carolina game in two thousand fifteen. He went off and he was like you know the reason for that. Tatum was because North Carolina. Jp Tokens over just neighbors and in that specific game. He decided to remind him of that and I was there. I saw it on person. It it it still hurts hard to the. So is the implication there that he wanted to Carolina or he he wanted he just wanted Carolina to hand he wanted. He was Vince Carter Fan so he was like. I'm a big North Carolina Basketball Fan at one point but they didn't prioritize top fifty guy. They took token toe. And then like I like what you mentioned during the interview that he needs to rebrand himself as like a guy who would have thrived in. The nineties is dislike Try TO TRY TO MAKE HIS WAY. Onto every one of those lists where people are like which which players would have been awesome in the nineteen nineties. He's got the Jordan attitude of being offended at all times. How many times did you mentioned kind of I kind of took that as a personal affront personal slight to me. You're like okay all right. They took JP Tocado. And I took that as A. Yeah I love it. Love the attitude. I'll take suggests that he's he's great. I I love. I don't know if it's cool to have him on Vividly remember watching him in Virginia. And I don't know that that's one of the that's investments. You and I made very early was Virginia basketball. That'll be paying off for restaurant. I it's so great that Virginia Suck this year. We didn't talk about Virginia at all season on the podcast. A Virginia fans care because they were in the bag for them and they know yeah not for the rest of her life and they also knew that they were very good. This year also agree. That's the other part of it the whole thing so all right. Let's wrap this thing up outs. Closeouts what we get a shot off for me Mac Mc lung he commits. It's Texas Tech Chris. Beard The King of a transfer portal King of transfers the king in Lubbock all around and crispier obvious McClellan coming in return to the MAC. I don't know how this really fit but team. He's trying to get the waiver if he plays this year I saw a lot of college basketball. Hoop heads Very excited about the fact that it would be saw. Johnny Jews ain't got the waiver the Kentucky Kid. Ucla he just got a waiver. And I don't really think he had much of a leg to stand on and I don't say that because I didn't want him to get the waiver. I want all the guys who get the waiver but I just as like a an objective bystander. I'm like why I don't understand why you gotta waiver so the fact that Gave him one. It bodes well for all these other guys that are just going to do the pandemic route I think is that the move your dislike. I have corn brain and I I need to change of scenery so I gotTa Get. Outta here like all right. Yeah that sounds right. Chris Beard Walsum. Let's go so who's left to the transfer portal at this point. I'm trying to think of who the top guys are. I wouldn't even know who would be what happens. What if the transfer portal? What if you just unplug the transfer quarter? What happens are all stuck there forever like it's like a Black Mirror episode. I forever the transfer portal. I wish I could get out. Yeah I don't know who's I don't know who's left to. We have to figure that out for for content purposes so he can ham it up and draw author. Recruitment put out their top seven. Kind of stuff. I WANNA shout out the NBA The the National Basketball Association announced this week that they may be potentially might be coming back. Eventually that's all. The chatter in the sports world is that the NBA is throwing out all these plans to come back. They are good friend. Kfc But article how they're considering this World Cup type format of having groups that then the groups the winners of the groups then go onto a bracket and play in and have a real playoff and then there are other people are like no that will never happen It's going to happen this way. But the everyone's arguing meanwhile woes. You're saying that it's probably going to be August if the season comes back because if it's going to be any earlier than that they probably announce it now to give enough of a runway to have all the guys get shaven logistics in place So yeah that's cool. It feels like it's coming back but it's also not show to MBA. Showed THEY'D BE. There's a lot of hope and optimism but like you said not a lot of answers especially specific answers about what it will actually look like in you know. I think the one thing that I have to say about the the so quarantine and professional athletes is a Lotta people. I've I've seen it to think that you can like flip. The switch guy like guys just Oh Green. Light the playoff. Let's go like we're going to be exactly where we were before again. I want to remind people to Gupo. Best Player in the Eastern Conference did not have a basketball goal at his house. Hasn't been able to play basketball. I mean I guess he's been able to go the facility at some point but like there's a there's a myriad of reasons for it to be kinda crazy and kind of wild and if football really is ago like everyone's saying it is you get into August in the NBA could competing football season. I here's my fix for the day. Here's what I think they should do. I think they should delay it until like Season in like. I don't know late October. And then from there just like play out like a full season and then have the playoffs in April or May and then have like the championship. Have the finals in June of next year is when I think should happen in other words? Just cancel the season. I felt like the right plan. You know just like I feel like does for read. I don't want them to cancel the season. I feel like you need to make that clear that that I as a sports guy do actually want the sports the comeback I want I want. Nba back but like it feels it just feels like classic like NBA Dominate. The conversation. Get everyone talking about how coming back. But there's no concrete plan in everyone's arguing about like what the plan actually is. Are they going to Disneyworld? And are they not and It just feels like it's inevitable that is gonNA drag out forever individually no one's GonNa and then you have like Damian Lillard coming out like I'm not GonNa play if what am I gonNA play. Three Games definitely not making the playoffs like the at stupid. He'll put myself at risk to other teams are like. Why would we try to win? You're pretending like we have a chance to make the playoffs. We all know we don't. We're not even GONNA try because it's going to ruin our lottery. Physician is this is all absolute Lord draft and we definitely want. Lamelo ball coveted. It's just a it's just of everywhere you turn. It feels like people have a problem with it so I don't know it's it's a bummer. But I don't know they'd be as coming back though. That's the headline. That's that's important tickly. Disneyworld that was the greatest headlines. Been of all time and Yeah it is funny because like in college basketball. Said we don't have a champion. There is no shaping. We've already seen it at one major basketball a venue. I think we will probably see some people some players specifically that may start with an L. That will be very the season is canceled and they may he may claim a you know an AP type title like the One thousand nine hundred eighty four. I think that's what they're trying to avoid as well like players upset that sense but it's I don't know it does feel like the. Nba has a better shot of coming back baseball though which is absolutely staggering to me and very frustrated. That baseball can't figure this shit out because Yeah it feels like baseball is nowhere close to be figured out a as a baseball game. Not Happy about that but I'm not either but it seems like fans can social distance in the stadiums. It seems that there's enough room usually especially at a Tampa Bay Games sticky marlins man and I guess that's never mind that's the MARLINS. Aright what else are we got? Jason Terry Assistant coach. We mentioned Arizona earlier. I'm hoping that he can stay there. When they hire bobby early he's going to go down to Arizona to beat assistant coach and You know he's trying to bring back that old. Lute Olson style we we love that style down in Tucson and I'm excited about Arezzo Zona got commitments from these Lithuanian twins. They now have six international commitments in their twenty twenty six international guys in there recruited class very Gonzaga very west coast. I kinda like it as an aside has nothing to do with the point completely separate point for completely separate thought from what I just said the F. B. I. has no jurisdiction in Europe date. Throw that out there. As well has no no relation whatsoever to the Arizona Point. I just wanted to also bring that up that a six six European guys on their European or International. I think six year International. But you know who does the CIA? And I think I think they're mixed That's the next big scandal. I'll I wanNA shout out Aaron. Who tweeted today that her dad laughter a briefcase at her house and before she returned to her dad's she went through it and found money. I retweeted it with eyeball emojis. A which as we know as Chris. Mack taught us doesn't mean anything just means I see this tweet it. You're you're not offering any commentary whatsoever. You were just saying I have read this tweet which all ever saying And then she deleted it date. She deleted the tweet but apparently Aaron Calipari is Lloyd Christmas. It seems like John. Calbury drafted trust a briefcase full of money somewhere in an air. Barricade sprinting through. The airport did a sliding grab a briefcase. And now she's going to have the Gasman follow her across the country to ask them. I guess I can't believe that there was not the one to one where it was like. Maybe this money could be related to something else I find that. Actually Kinda flattering. You know kind of quaint. That there was no thought of of any business which makes me think that maybe no coach catches so clean. You know what I mean you could never think about. I feel like that but yeah this was a great tweet. This is a great moment for you and I were like bag dropping but but I don't Wanna a briefcase being drive case does not yeah. That's that's that's solid fit as much money in a briefcase as you can in a bag so I think I think there should be the line for say is finding it hard to police all of this and they're trying to figure out what is acceptable. What is not in it in? My mind goes to lay drug possession tate of you find a guy with a little bit a little bag of weed on most of the time the cops come on and take they take it they throw it away they save you gone with you You have a lot. The the intent to distribute you get busted so what if we draw the line at like if you have a briefcase? Full the cashier giving recruit. It's just like a little slap on the wrist. They confiscate the money. But they're like come on. You know better than that once. You have a Duffel Bag. It's an intensive distribute. And now you're seeing real time. I think that's what we should. I think that's for lunch. The Godfrey Calipari and then the Calipari is not as offensive. But you're also come on and the Godfrey you're like come on dude seriously. I WANNA shout out. Tom Crean as well Tom Korean. I found out this week As unblocked me on twitter. I don't know how it happened. Sent me a tweet from Tom. Green I clicked on it and I could see it and I. I have not been able to see Tom Tweet. In seven years. I want to say I think the two thousand thirteen season when I was shitting all over him for Syracuse I think that's when he blocked me. he unblocked me. I don't I don't have any idea why so it's come with the podcast. Tom. Let's talk about. Let's let's let's talk it out. I think he unblocked you. Because of the MAUI INVITATIONAL. We saw him there across the room. He gave some looks. He's like why are these people still involved in the sport how to get him out of the sport but like you said we were still there. We were so given by and You know he finally is accepting the fact that yes come on the show and address it. What if Cody Zeller made it happen for us? What those. Why Cody Zeller told the story about the bat and then Tom Green on black military? I don't know but he unblocked so I'm excited about that. Because he is my white whale interview I think SOM- create and I have had a personal rivalry for professional rivalry will save for that his term personnel at times for very long time. So I don't know olive branch being extended. Thank you. I think you coach Green. Please please share your gift. Anything else before. Go Shots Dwayne Wade as you talk about Tom. Crean I just want to remind people. He did recruit Wayne Wade and took him to a final four and Dwayne Wade through Justin Anderson into the first year of the media. Yes yes yes it. All comes full circle. Circle shutout NASA SPACEX launching. Doing the relaunch. I was geeked up for on Thursday or on Wednesday was a didn't happen. They've postponed it to Saturday beside for that so I just want to get on record that space guy a big time space guy and I'm excited to watch that shuttle again rocket. I am a little hesitant Elon. Musk who's just trying to get off her. Then that makes me worried and you know that I am excited as well. All right. That's a show. They suggested innocent for coming on. Thanks to you guys for listenable.

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Kevin Mawae: 2019 Pro Football Hall of Fame Inductee

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Kevin Mawae: 2019 Pro Football Hall of Fame Inductee

"It is pro football hall of fame week here on the playbook and I have my next hall of Famer Kevin Mewa and he is going to help us with faith faith and being consistent and persistent in the pursuit of his potential. He Played One hundred seventy seven straight games without getting hurt. That's consistency consistency entrepreneurs the playbook each week I bring you some of the greatest athletes celebrities and entrepreneurs to talk about their personal title and professional playbook to success in what made them champions on the field and in the boardroom. I'm your host and C._E._O.. Of Sports Marketing Reading David Meltzer Dave Meltzer C._E._O.'s sports marketing here with entrepreneur. The playbook and I have Kevin Mawae Center finalists for the hall of fame. I wore this for you. Would you don't see it. You won't achieve it. No you crossed yeah. I know every everyone I like. The humidity is this year really brought some New Light to the hall of fame with certain individuals color from class a colorful class. That's a great way to put it well anyway night with a issue and right now your consultant patiently waiting to work with the kids and <hes> let's take you back to your your playbook to success because your life wasn't always easy and the journey was always simple and straightforward as most people think N._F._l.. Are you went to L._S._U.. Give me a little bit insight on how you felt when you went to college. If you know you had great confidence. You'RE GONNA BE N._F._l.. Player war there for I'm. I'm one of the kids that said I always wanted. I want to be Enough L. Player and I played football at eight years old. I I messed up on field. I came home. I told my mom playing N._F._l.. One day and that was my lifelong goal I. I didn't know that you had to go to college this. So we start playing in Europe in Germany MMJ the military move to my hometown Leesville Louisiana Star playing from the junior high and high school and it was there when I started realizing the next step is college ball came from a pretty successful high school football program the sitting guys to the N._F._l.. And Not really know Eh to college football and four years in high school. I had teammates that went to l._S._U.. Became L._S._U.. Fan during that time and committed there and that's how I ended up at L._S._U.. Is just the next step in and what my goal was <hes> again. I didn't know you had to go to college to get to the N._F._l.. But it was the next progression from me me and it was a big decision they'd been perfect match because when I was five I dream to be in the N._F._l.. And I slept with my nerve football named it Frankie but I I knew I had to go to college. My mom figured I wasn't going to be an N._F._l.. Players I better study so when I got to college and play and Kristen Koi ran me over my I play. I realize that's where my dream and wake up call. Unfortunately some of them have earlier for other people but <hes> there's a blessing it gives the blessing worked out for me and I got drafted to the N._F._l.. And had a great career and now in that journey you went through a transformation early in your career your most other n._f._l.. Players your values probably the same as they are today. They're alive different. I I came in the League and all I knew about the N._F._l.. Was GonNa make lots of money have the ability to buy car wanted by how you know just the whole lifestyle the stereotypical n._F._l.. Lifestyle that people think N._F._l.. N._F._l. like and that's what my goal was. That's my dream was and I was living. I mean I was married. My wife and I married in college got to the N._F._l.. And lived in a house of two big verse you probably spend more money than a couple of just two people needed to be spending and probably wasn't <hes>. I wasn't a bad guy but I just just wasn't living right and <hes> you know things happen. They're going into my third year league. My brother got killed in a car accident and it changed my perspective on my whole life foam wife wife became pregnant two months after my brother was killed his accident and all of a sudden things became a little bit more important than just the money in the Richardson the fame it became about the purpose in who I was as a man and those are the things that's the catalyst that changed my perspective on my career in my life is the death of my brother in the Bertha Masan in in the accidental death of your brother one thing I have four brothers mildest passed away as well <hes> but my younger brothers does your brother was your best friend yeah he was here so there's a there's a one year gap between John and myself one year and five five days. Everybody thought we were twins growing up and then there's a four year gap between me and the next two brothers and so we living in a military housing you don't have big houses lose. If we share the same room our entire life at one point for long stretch. We wore the same size closed so it wasn't like his clothes and his close. They're close close the same underwear drawer in the same sock drawer. I mean that's kind of creepy now thinking about it I read that I'm like that's close type and but it it wasn't like John's friends and Kevin's friends we all ran together and so the first time we've ever separated from each other was your he went to college. Ahead of me went to northwestern in university in Louisiana and I was in high school and that was the first and only time we've never been separated for stretch and then I went to l._S._U.. And then following him sitting out a here he transferred and we became roommates again and so yeah he was my best friend Yeah I was. I was willing to fight back a little bit more fight in the locker room and we're teammates had a break us up but I didn't back down but <hes> yeah but he was he was my best friend Convento. Now everyone goes I think through a transformation of some sorts and sometimes we're blessed that happens at a younger age you know but for kind of shifting your values where you and I married my childhood sweetheart I was multimillionaire my thirties. It took me losing everything almost losing my wife you know relative bill through a transformation and say you know I wasn't a bad guy like you. This is my values were wrong. I I wasn't happy so I buy things in different things you know when and you went through your transformation. Where did you prioritize things that I think it made you last in the League for six years for me? It was not just a transformation transformation way of thought be for me. It was a spiritual awakened so my brother passed away and then my my wife was became pregnant. I had no spiritual bring it at all. Also if I had no answers and I really to be honest with you I just one day after my brother's death I opened up a Bible and just started reading just all out of the blue I played played in the Blue Gray all star game that doesn't exist anymore and they gave us a Bible as a gift and I just sat there for three years or two years whatever it was and nobody can give you answers for life and death in the wise but I was like well you know read the Bible and I did. I started reading it until the more I read read the Bible. The more questions I had the more had the more I began to read so I I did force myself drew me in and so I started our understanding you know everybody walks. A different path mind became spiritual path where I became. I became a believer I got saved as a Christian Gin and understood that Christ died on the cross for my sins and and through that process understood that football was a platform. It's not who I was. I had my identity wrapped up in Kevin Maguire the football player of the millionaire that kind of thing and then when I began to realize who god made me to be as a man as a man as a husband is a father's. There's a leader my priorities changed in that. It was no longer about me as more about what can I do with the platform. I've been given through football and so that's that's where my part is. Privatization changed from Kevin Family riches money. To who do I please. He's the guy the one who gave me my ability. I my my sole purpose was please God that I served and in doing so my family became more important to me because he gave me the family and football became a secondary or third or even fourth on the list as far as my party's become because I knew if I did everything for the glory God then everything else fell into place and that's exactly what happened for me. The money became no longer important to me but I became the hospice N._F._l.. Right on the police in the coaches wasn't important to me because if I failed in what I was doing I felt like I was letting God down but I had a higher expectation for myself in the coaches did so everything just kind of fell into place coaches put you up on a pedestal and I've talked to coaches herm even say the best player teammate all of the lesson thanks so many guys and I saw it in my time before I became a Christian and after the guys continue to build this pedestal upon themselves and not just seeing the football but in other other rounds of this world as a business leader as as passionate a megachurches and it becomes the sitting on this pedestal where every see me and the reality of it is now learned this years after my brother passed away and within the last five or ten years that all the successes that we have our bricks the wing stack at one or two different ways you stack them to create a pedestal so you stand above everybody else or you can spread them out to create a platform to where now I can reach many different people and that's where I see see it myself now is the football has created a platform for me to reach out to those in the L._S._U.. Community how I'm on Polish in hall of fame I reach out immunity yeah you know and so all these different areas will now reach out to different people because of the experiences I had added successes I've had and so I chose chose to take my bricks and the accolades spread a mouse stacking love and there's a great story in the Bible about king number connector who's the king of Babylon who built the statue onto himself and what he did he spent the time and resources the money build a statue so everybody would view him and praise him but what he did was he made the cheapest part of statue was clay whose feet and then hey was mile gold. So you know the story you need to spend more time building the platform and then build your way up instead. He spent minuscule amount building the platform built it on top comes top. Stop having a falls down and it's just like anything else. I don't know what happened to your business will probably exactly and your foundation was frail and toppled over <hes> passers lead megachurches they forget where they came from who they were and they start recognizing who they are now where people put them and something happens in their life and they lose everything God. I've been a part of the air of seen it happened in my life. I've seen it happen in other. People's lives that the goddess give us a platform to use for me it was football and I chose chose to use it in a way that expresses my faith and my belief in him and hopefully to bring other people so now something different about you know. It's like you just a normal dude live service success. We you know you could be whoever you want to be well. I'm just a And and that's a great compliment because I could be who you know pulling the shirt off my chest look what I've done and should be puffed up and feathers everywhere but the reality of it is. I'm no better than these kids better than you. I just haven't had a really cool job that put me in the limelight but I don't carry myself like these. I don't think I do I thank the people around me would say the same thing that he took with God gave them made the most out of it and is using it to reach out to others and that humility carries over to even in my own life is I would say the same way and create a human experience of a spiritual being having human experience. One of the things that was difficult for me was forgiveness this yeah you know and it was a big part of my own redemption. was you know how can I forgive myself all right. 'cause my dream for me. Was I wanted to buy Mama House in a car. I had six kids single single. Mom I actually lost everything including my mom's house like an idiot right and so the first step you know as I surrendered right and we'll say it was okay okay. I got I myself. I have to forgive myself did you. Did you go through any type of I did. There's so much and there's things I did that that was like and I struggled with early my me and my faith walk like how can God forgive me for the things I've done when I can't even forgive myself and I've learned in my match naturally my maturing process is that God forgives you regardless and so really it's a sand against God for you not to just live your life without after he's always always already forgiven you and and so it took a little while to get that to get that right in my head and I really right in my heart right but at the end of the day I found a way to understand that so yeah you know what God gave his son died on the cross for the sense that committed and they're forgiven once. I've accepted the Jesus my savior. They're they're gone. It's like race clean now. The mental part of me that's got lived through that and understand that but but my heart part understood that that what what was was and what is new and and so that's kind of where I'm at now and I think everybody goes through that process and <hes> and they're just things that you know well we just make bad mistakes and that's human nature us and we're born sinful create beings and and that's why you know Christ died for us and that's the life that I live and I choose he's live and and for anybody that wants to bring my passed up and I was like well I remember when you did this. And how can you be that guy and I'm like well because you you know I'm no longer than I got the guy that you knew back in high school early college. That guy doesn't exist anymore now yeah. Did I live those things absolutely live in them. Absolutely not mob I've moved on and if you choose remember me for those things I did that wrong. Do you or somebody else then that's on you. It's not on me and you know and so I I just leave it at that and taking that to now you had a great influence here great program new stadium new athletic facilities great coach. You're part of a great organization you know. How are you going to in the public sector? You don't can't always bring religion into it but we can't bring faith. I tell kids all the time put faith. It put faith where you want it because a lot of people don't realize faith works both ways yeah. Don't put faith in what you don't want. How are you communicating because you know kids are different today? How are you communicating indicating that inspiration that changed you so that they don't have to pay the dummy tax that you want? Here's for me. I can't separate my faith out anything I I just I don't believe you can and whether I work here to public university which I know there's that I am who I am and and I do things based on what I feel. Oh Goddess Call Me To do whether you say I can't do it or not now. I'll be respectful you know God has called us under authority of of men and so whatever those rules are I operate within then on but at the end of the day I'm not separating Kevin y from the football player and the Christian Kevin y the coach and I'm one in the same. I can't be coach without stop being Christian coach. I can't be a football player without being a Christian football player so if you want to know who I am and what makes me tick as a coach or as a player. I'm GonNa tell you one and I do it for God cost three twenty three says whatever you do with all of your Heart's doing for Lord now for man. I don't do it for her. I don't do it for Ray Anderson. I don't do it for for the N._C.. Double A. Because this is what God has called me to do and I do it respectfully in a way that honors the kids beliefs and whatever they believe but I tell them this is who I am on what you don't believe this or not. I get that but there's here's the lesson in it and whatever that might be and but I'll I tell you when a kid says there's something different about you or when a kid comes up and they say I just feel like I can be honest with you because I believe my purpose here at this university as an analyst right now is to be around kids where they can see somebody who's reached a highest level. What's most of them wished to attain but most of them never will and be very honest with them them about it but do it in a way? That's loving respectful and be like man I it's a great dream to have but I think that you don't have the abilities don't take you to the next is level but let's make you the best player we can make you here to help A._S._U.. Win And in the meantime a issues to help you achieve the highest level education you can get with their graduating waiting on time and probably graduate master's degree for you walk out of here and in that process I teach you how to do things right how to be a better man a better husband a better the child in some cases a better father and so that's what my role is more of a mentor thing is coach because I believe I know her believes this. We're here to grow men young men into mature men and out of the hundred guys we have on this team. There might be two guys on this roster right now. That will go play an extended time N._F._l.. And so those other guys they got to be ready to step out in the real world and become business leaders and dads and fathers yes exactly right and they got to be able to do it in a way that is respectful honoring and do it with integrity and so that's more important than just trying to win football game today. I think that's so important in you. I wanted to sit down with us. I in my life. I've had this extraordinary experience and been But of all the way I played college football like I said I've been around the hall of famers throws you release Steinberg's. There's so many professional athletes in all sports but the most interesting thing is when I asked someone someone who had the biggest impact on their life a lot of times. It's their football coach. Yeah responsibility is a lot of times it is because especially in this board and the higher you go you find that especially in the N._F._l.. Eighty five percent of the players in the N._F._l.. Are Over minority race African American in predominantly in fifty percent of those come from single parent households and so when you're in that demographic group and you play sports really really lots of times building male figure in your life as a coach and I saw the statistic when I was coaching I coach fifth and sixth graders for two years and eighty percent of a young athletes life is spent with his college. Coach coaches like I will spend more time with these kids and their parents will in one semester I and I sometimes I think coaches forget that so the kids are watching them as father figures as male figures as role models. How do I treat my wife wife and my wife is round here my daughter's on campus here? How do I treat my daughter in front of these young men because that's what we're modeling for them and when you don't do that then you miss out on a great opportunity to show young men how to be real men and <hes> for me you know I have some great coaches in my life but really my greatest role models my dad and my mom and dad had they just they just hit fifty years? This year was their marriage perfect absolutely not I've seen some people that say that we have this great marriage words. They may this instagram mayors. They're liars. They're all for sure because everybody has issues and everybody has problems. Everybody's got skeletons in the closet. It's just how do you choose to handle them within in your family and but my mom dad is still married and they they've brought up four boys they lost one of them. They've got great grandchildren now and then <hes> but my dad you you know my mom I worked. They had to work to make their marriage work and that's what I saw out but my dad him being military I mean I saw my ask my dad up at nighttime spit-polished his his boots in heavy starts on his views and his uniforms. My Dad never stepped out of the House without his uniform looking sharp in in for me that was big and I told my dad is before. It's about the little things it's all about the little things. My Dad used to always. Tell us. Have you going to cut the grass. You can find my way. There's not too different ways of doing it. It's the wrong way and it's the way you're supposed to do and if we had to make the bed at the corners how to be tucked in the sheet beds we're tight and bedsheets tight and that was my role model. My mom was the same way I mean. I tell kids the other day. If our socks weren't all folded inputting the door and be a we don't just throw stuff in drawers my mom would take all the drawers just dump Mama floor and he had a full the mall over and start all over. You need good roommate. My brother and I are room was never dirty. It just wasn't in and so but my dad's whole point was it takes more work to come back and do it a second time than if you just did it right the first time and not live goodbye that you know if I'm going to come out here and turn something into my coaching staff that project that they have to do almost. I'll stay here to midnight and make sure it's done right so that I don't have to correct it tomorrow morning because when you got to do the Correction GonNa take it apart you joe do the research all over again and put it back together. The worst thing as a homeowner is buying used house. That's been remodeled by somebody else because they cut corners and now I gotta take a wall out like a Redo the pipes and I gotta scrape all the wallpaper off because they chose to do the cheap way instead of doing the right way Oy and so it goes back that's the principle is my dad taught me and he's the greatest role model had as a young man was if you're going to do something right. Have you going to do something. Do it the right way the first time if it's worth doing don't do it half ass and that's what my dad would always say. That's kind of who I am and I know it's a great deal of what I try to model for guys when you do an incredible job and this is one of those episodes I was at another twenty minutes listen. I think it's a great opportunity because you worked with Hall of famers. I played for a halting future once and I played for my mum on check and I played for some of the greatest office line coaches in the League in it was always the same thing everybody's got unique talents and gifts whether it'd be in the business on the football the world in part of me being who I was was coaches at recognized that in me but allowed me to hone my skills within in their system and so did I do everything perfectly absolutely not but I give every effort all the time absolutely and but allowed coaches just to teach me I was coach -able teachable but they allowed me to grow without feeling like they were being threatened or I wasn't listening to what they were doing and but it all goes back to recognize that we all have talents and gifts and for me they were given to me by God I hold him on Myself Self With the coaching staffs that went on and to be around guys like Mike Munch hack and play with the Warren Moon. I played with Walter Jones Incurs Martin and guys guys did things right did not just on the field off the field and and that's what made those guys special and hopefully that's what makes me special is that I felt like I did things the right way. Both both on and off the field and Kevin Walks the walk which is I think important in business and in life and in your personal pursued so is very career with someone and stern on who you are and how you're gonna live your life and I really appreciate that anything more people out. There are looking to do your business. Don't sacrifice your character. Turn integrity just because other people are expecting something else and <hes> you know. I can't wait to see and listen to your induction Pete. 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Marvin Lewis

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Marvin Lewis

"The plants capture c o two what if we could help industrial plants capture it to thank you? We could help lower emissions more and more scientists than carbon capture is key to reducing CO two emissions globally. It's one way. Exxon Mobil is helping industrial plants be more like plants. That's the unexpected energy of Exxon Mobil. This week's Adam Schefter podcast. We are joined by the flavor eight coach of the Cincinnati Bengals and the newest special adviser on the Arizona state football team. Marvin Lewis reunites with his friend, our former colleague, SPN hermet words with two great men there in the desert, and we'll take your ask Adam questions, some great questions this week from Nick Ross Kevin, Kevin Matthew, and Gino, as they fire off some great questions pertaining to random NFL subjects. But I the man out west in the desert orvin Lewis, a joining us now the new special advisor to Arizona state head coach, Herman Edwards, Marvin Lewis. Mormon what does special advisor mean? Like to help out coach you know what I mean the help out with net today? Well, he's helping out, you know, trying to find. Hermit has asked me to their early take time in evaluate everything they're doing and you know, really consult with him on and you know how I did things what I would I like what I disliked and, and then as we get to the season really, I'm going to spend time and of I waiting the personnel, the people are opponents and so forth, present report to the coaches self scouts both offense and defense special teams here as well. And just the sys- him with a lot of the analytical things that they have in place and being able to, you know put things in front of him that are pertinent. And then how mentor, the coaches help them in their planning and so forth and be a sounding board to the things they're doing and, you know, but present what I think are the strengths and weaknesses the opponents as well. More of when I saw the news. I wondered how did this come to be? How long did this been going on who came up with the idea, and I'm curious to know how this all started? Well, I think you know, literally it began a year, you know, almost a year ago, you know, in home, and I just talking. And you know what was talking on the golf course? And, and top or wherever was. And, you know, whenever, you know, he's like, hey long as I'm there ever, you get done, what you're doing and you wanna play, the, the come and do something, you know, the doors going to be open. So and then after the season you know, he reached on right away this year. And so, you know, we I came over here couple times, spent some time and talked and so forth. And he visited with his coaches to what you know what role they could see I could feel from what they had or, or could maybe even developed into because I thought that was important that these guys here had a comfort level with everything. And so then the chance to come over and is with the coaches as well. So it's I'm excited about it. What, what did they say that sold you there because you had opportunities to do plenty of things right? You could have joined television network. You could've I'm sure probably consulted for an NFL team. You've probably could worked in NFL for all their a lot of things that you could have done. So what did you hear from them that drew you to the college game? Well, I think the energy here, that's in this building, obviously, we know that's what, what would Herman's all about that, if you, you walk in this building, and, and the, the coaches that he has in place here and the way they go about their jobs and so forth? It's impressive. And so I was really been impressed with that. And you know this couple of times I had a chance to come over and spend time here, obviously, I have a long relationship with the athletic director here, Ray Anderson, and the job that he's doing and his vision for what the future of ASU athletics. And as you football is and so rain, I had had a conversation or two. And, and, and so it's been able to to twelve fall into place, Margaret, devante birth, the former sun, devil have anything to say about you going back to his alma Mata. He was excited he he's known about this for about a month. And so he was he and his is beyond say they both went to school here. And so I got folks up from them right away. So. That I was glad to hear that they work. I did about it. Who would have thought that for the two thousand nineteen season that you would be a special adviser for hours, state involved, his birth would be playing linebacker for the Oakland Raiders. Well we're trying to get him to be able to do right now. It's just play linebacker put Oakland Raiders. So we stay in pretty good contact. How strange has it been for you to be out of the NFL? It really happened been. It's been avid. I haven't missed it. I'm enjoying everything that I had an opportunity to do. I enjoyed working for they until they pull the carpet from underneath. And, but it was fun. It was fun talking to coaches. It was fun being around the players and AMI opportunity. I was getting the learn a lot of new things. You know, spend time day as you know, up ESPN and days with the NFL network. So I was getting a chance to, to meet other people and do things, and, and people were very, very helpful to me, and help mentor me, and to maybe something different, but this is been exciting the, you know, I just had to go through those other things and decide what, what made sense for the future. And do you think you will miss it this fall when it starts up? I, I don't know I'm gonna have enough with Boeing, my hands right here to keep me very busy. I know you'll be the help out cokes there. But when the first Sunday of the NFL season, rolls around will you be so wrapped up in Arizona state's affairs or will you have a chance to watch the Bengals. Well, I don't think I will look, I will be watching the Bengals, you know, other than the fact that the players that are, are near and dear to my heart there. That's it. You know the players that I brought there. But other than that, that's my only interest in, in the Bengals went, they're doing is the players are successful when you bring up near and dear to your heart. Who do you think of an who'll you miss this season in Cincinnati Mormon? Oh, I miss them all I'm miss them all from the from last year's draft class of the Sam Hubbard's Billy price. You know, those guys last year's classes, well as the guys that have been there through thick and thin with me. And the AJ's Andy's so forth. The guys that have been there the longest. And so Joe mixing all the guys Drake Patrie all the guys reach out, you know, from time to time miss them all because they've been a big part of my life. And hopefully I've been a part of their so but yeah, I'll be busy here. And I won't get a check. Chance to peek in on the NFL because I'll be too busy helping us get ready for whoever the next opponent is. So while you're busy there. What are your expectations this season for the Bengals I know that they've had a lot of changes? I know the personnel will be different. I know that when a new coach comes in legs act, Taylor that there are a lot of changes that are made. But what do you expect to see from that team season? I really have no idea. I don't I expect handy to have a great season because he's a fine fine player. And hopefully AJ's back in healthy and John Ross continues to grow Tyler boy, continues to grow. Joe mixing it cetera. So all those guys on offense really can do their thing. And, you know, Tyler I for being healthy and back. I'm excited for him. And I know he's feeling great. So a lot of good things. A lot of positives there, do you have any relationship or have you had any contact with the new head coach? There's activity, succeeded you I have not. No. Do you have any hope? Of getting back to the NFL coaching one day or you're not even thinking like that. And I'm not like that. I'm just you know, you know me long enough and I'm gonna focus on with today is and not worry about tomorrow. Now, I wonder also you've a home in Arizona. How far is that from Arizona state? Give me an idea of what that commute will be like for you, and how much that entered into your decision to become a special visor for hours stadium. Well, it's left them to was Paul Brown stadium. So, so for good. Wow. Is that right? Yeah. It's that close. Yeah. It's, it's well, you know, in the morning, there's no traffic. So but, but now it's it's been great. It really is. I was surprised how close it was the first thing I heard from a couple people like, hey, what do you do it? You know how far it is from your house down that actually it's closer than it was in Cincinnati. That's amazing. So you, you can have all this free time on your hands, then Marvin. Well, what Herman envisioned for me the opportunity to do this, and it's been it's been fun? You know, I've been here now for, you know, for three days, 'cause I really don't start to August. But I'm trying to get to lay of the land here and get started on some things, and a lot of paperwork with, with collegiate athletics days more than you expected. Well, more than it was. You know, I guess it would be twenty eight years ago when I was in college nineteen ninety one. Well, that's, that's, that's right. I forgot about that, now that you are out of the NFL, and now that you are a help out coach special adviser for our state. How has that changed your personal life at all? Well, it's been very good. I had the opportunity, you know, to spend time with my my son's coach at Hampton university. I've been to Hampton Virginia a couple of times, and we've got into daughter here and son-in-law with our grandson. So if I go three days without seeing those boys, you know, I'm kicking myself, so I get a lot of opportunity to, to be pop, and, and that's been great. And would you not have had that Hegi you still been coaching Cincinnati? Well, I still had that. I mean it's just, you know, it's, it's, it's different, you know, because I wouldn't be close as close as I am two to one side of the family. Yeah. Now when I look back at your coaching resume that you alluded to you did coach at Idaho state from eighty one to eighty four Long Beach state from eighty five to eighty six New Mexico, eighty seven eighty nine. Pittsburgh, one thousand nine hundred ninety one what is so different from the college game today? You're three days, your brief time there that you can tell that compares to win you coach back in college back in the eighties and early nineties, where I think number one what's provided for these players from that standpoint I was down there. Teasing this morning about, you know, they've got the nutrition bar. They've got breakfast provided. They've got all these things. The beautiful weight rooms and everything that they have, you know, I it's just different that way from that standpoint. But then from the coaching standpoint, you know, the fact of the time limit and that just came in, I think, in ninety when I was at university of Pittsburgh, you know, literally, the time constraints that now college football has and so forth. So, and I think from the standpoint of the player the player comes here to be here, three years, and Amazon states. Plan is in that three years, they can get their degree because they're all going to be here in school and in the summertime and so they're taking classes in as they progress towards their degree and be able to graduate in three three and a half years. And if they're good enough have an opportunity to go onto the National Football League. You know, at some point how much talent is there on that state roster. But he's, he's really they've done a nice job last two recruiting classes of getting a lot of young talent. They re they lost obviously player that was picked in the first round, they had two guys, grafted six other sinus college free agent. So they have some since obviously better in talent, and they're going to be replaced by a lot of younger players team's gonna be is harm said a little younger than it was a year ago likely to, to start a young quarterback. But they get some gotta find runner coming back into some pieces on the offense line and so forth. And some guys on defense around the settle into the system and understand it. So, you know, so we got a lot of work ahead, but they've got an another incoming class coming into they feel great about Jewish about this Mormon obviously having coached since eighty one and done at the college. I and at the NFL level and now going back to the college level, how have you seen young? Men change during that time. What's the biggest change that you've noticed in these guys? I think the fact now that was so nutrition conscious these young people growing up people were in their era, talking to them about that. And certainly when they can afford when they get to college is being provided for them. So we're actually were with we know we're growing bigger, stronger people faster people, and, and that's going to continue that trend. You know, it's just it's, it's really cool to hear the hurting their Tristesse talking with a young guy this morning and him telling her last night. He cooked pasta with olive oil. So. I it's just different you know. And I think that trend is gonna continue you know, it's a little different than guys grabbing a handful candy bars. And, and that was a breakfast. It also seemed I remember when I covered the Broncos for sixteen years early on. It seem like guys were more. I don't know. Maybe I'm imagine this team focused and then over time it became more individualized where players thought of themselves more as brands. Have you seen that change at all in people? I know you talked about the nutrition and how it's changed. But how about in the actual people themselves? Well, I think it does. But I think the, the one when we know last year again, the Clemson won the national championship year before that it was Alabama, and, and they have a team concept and National Football League was New England Patriots again. And we know no question they have a team concept. And I think that's the thing that the end of the day team still win on individual players you bring up the patriots and you coaching Cincinnati with the Bengals from two thousand three to two thousand eighteen Bill Bill has been in New England that long and longer. Having done what you have what is your assessment of what he has been able to do from your perspective? Well, it's been incredible bills. They would continue to massage change adapt and continued to stay with the, the, the trend offensively defensively, you know, all these things we're talking about nutrition and everything like that. You know, they're at the head of the class, and all of those things all the time and yeah, Anna lyrics, etc. These things, it's, it's football all the time. And Bill does a tremendous job of managing all that valuating prospects you know, from the time the season is over, and obviously, they've been in deep in the playoffs, you know, almost every season and, and still he goes right to work, right at the next class and so forth. And right to work, and create and see. So just incredible that way, are you gonna be recruiting at all? Are we gonna see more of Louis on the road in some young Heison player? Home trying to close the deal. No, I am not allowed to see. So that's a good thing. Because I'm not one of the ten coaches but I can I can have a world here on campus? Once the young man. The prospect comes here to campus to visit, I can have a role that way, but I'm not allowed to the reach out and make phone calls or have off campus. Contact. I didn't even realize the NCAA rules. So that shows you how well versed. I am in that area Marvin. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's, you know, they do they the, the, the stabs of today's college football is too. It's expanded so much. So you have, you know, Billy ever personnel department here, recruiting department. I it's amazing. You brought up living in Arizona. I know you've had a home there for a while. Are you keeping your home Cincinnati? Or are you leaving the area? No on our houses been vacant since man for a little bit. So, so our houses now in the market Cincinnati. And when you look back to the homes, going to be sold you're going to be an hour. Zona fulltime when you look back on your days in Cincinnati, what stands out in your mind. Well, it's it was it. I had a tremendous time tremendous run. A lot of great people working for the Brown family, the relationship that I have with Mike and his family. It's, it's special, and so very fortunate that and but you know things come to an end and now somebody else's time. So you know, I know people say, well you didn't wanna playoff game, but I prefer to look at an entirely different way. The fact that you took a team that was terrible in organization that was a laughing stock almost and you made it respectable and you made it a perennial playoff contender. And you made that team competitive, which is something it wasn't before. So I, I think people need to remember that way. Well again I I don't think there's a coach in, in the NFL or anywhere that goes into season says I want to win a playoff game. That's not the go Go's be world champions. And, and obviously you win. Games on the way to being that we didn't get that done. So, so that's the only disappointing part is my job was to win a championship and dislike it's here now in my role. Here's the help Herman and the staff here win. The Pac twelve championship and moved from there. So you know that's the those are the goals. And, and, you know, you check some boxes along the way and some unfortunately, don't get checked. I will say this that if I had a son who was looking to go to college football and college. I'd want to go play for you and her two. Great men. Well, we push that. So that's good advertisement there. 'cause I so we need. We need more sun devils. Yeah. And we're excited about that. And the opportunity, obviously, you know, Herman and his the, the man his character it's it's speaks for itself. And that's what that's what he's, he's really promoting here that he's raising these young men up to be great. Great men and will be great. Oh, you know, led by great role models, here on his staff, and they will be great men and society in great bothers and so forth, as they move forward. We might not be able to sell your home at Cincinnati but we can't sell the program in Arizona Marvin it. All right. That's great. Hey, thanks very much of the time. I really appreciate his always. I hope our paths cross soon will miss having the NFL but will be watching you hear from afar. All right. Good to speak with you. We'll be back in a moment with your ask Adam questions. But I, I wanna tell you about ZipRecruiter finding a new job as a lot of work. What if you had your own personal recruiter help you find a better job now ZipRecruiter's technology can do that for you? Just download the dip recruiter job. Search, let it know what kind of jobs, you're interested in and its technology starts doing the work the ZipRecruiter app. Fines jobs. You'll like and put your profile in front of employers who may be looking for someone like you if an employer likes your profile ZipRecruiter, let's, you know, so if you're interested in the job you can. Apply. No wonder ZipRecruiter is the number one rated job, search up my listeners should download the free ZipRecruiter job search app today and let the power of technology work for you. Don't wait. 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Questions have been great in the last several weeks at I'm glad that we can get the fans involved with these ask Adam questions, the first one this week asked about some teams that have flown under the radar this off season is Nick. And I was curious has right now. What teams do you think flew under the radar in terms of traps? And some of the moves they've made so far this year. Well Nick, it's still early. Listen again, if we just go back to the draft in which the patriots Tom Brady will we have said that the patriots in June, really through into the radar with that great selection? They made in the six round of that quarterback for Michigan. No, you can't know that it's just very difficult to tell I could tell you that the Seattle Seahawks were team that headed into the draft with four picks and somehow turn all those four picks into a lot more picks. So that by the time they finished their draft. They had one first round pick. Three second round picks, one third round pick three fourth rump picks fifth to six and the seventh that was from four picks which was amazing that Seattle did that now. We'll see whether L J Collier, the defensive in from TCU can play Greg little and more Kice, Blair and decay, Metcalf in Cody Barton, and Gary Jennings, and on, and on and on, we go. But the point of the matters that Seattle, very quietly accumulated a lot more draft capital than it headed into the draft with and we'll see how that works out if we're looking for a team that may be flew under the radar. I can tell you this, the Los Angeles Rams love Taylor up the defensive back that they drafted with the sixty first overall, selection, and I will say this to you to Nick Daryl Henderson third round pick seventieth overall running back from Memphis. Here's a guy that I believe Sean McVay thought was the most dangerous offensive player in. The draft. Do you hear me Nick? That's right. They love Daryl Henderson now again. We'll see how Todd Gurley holds up how he fares. But that's my little tip for you. Nick. And all you other fancy football listeners, Daryl Henderson Memphis, running back, put them on your radar take note, absolutely one team last year. That had an off season that turned out to be better than expected the Indianapolis Colts which leads store. Second voicemail Adam across from Indiana. I'm a big fan. I was curious. I'm seeing a lot of hype about the Indianapolis Colts. And I'm all in the team as a fan, but I wanna know what you think. How can cope team go? Thanks that. We'll ross. Thanks for the question. Thanks for listening to the podcast truly appreciate it. And I would say this, first of all, did you see the link to the draft war room that the colts posted and how much they loved the players that they drafted early on rocky soon, and Ben Bana goo if I'm saying that correct? In Paris, Campbell, and Bobby ORR correctly, the linebacker from Stanford. They love these guys and they done a tremendous job accumulating talent last couple years. Chris Ballard is come in there and really shown how in organization should be acquiring personnel. And look, if Andrew luck is healthy. He's one of the best quarterbacks in football. They put together a really strong offensive line. It's not a finished product. But again, it's a very good football team with a lot of debt, a lot of talent again another one of those teams that with the benefit last year going back from two to six. So the jets could go up and get darnold. They got quitting Nelson there. They picked up the extra twos this year. So they had three to this year where they draft a cornerback defensive and a wide receiver. I mean you just have to like, what Chris Ballard is done there. The coaching staff, Nick Surani the offensive coordinator Matt, Uber, flew the defense corner. They just have made all the right moves, and they're really tracking and trending in the right direction sushi. Pretty excited. There are so the colts definitely took a leap last season. A team that a lot of people thought may take a leap didn't the forty Niners. And now one of their fans wants to know does that mean trouble for the coaching staff in the front office? Hey, Adam, this from California forty Niners go under six wins this year. Shannon his job going to be on the line. And then what does that mean for the future of Garoppolo? Thanks. Well, kevin. I appreciate the question, and I would say to you this that if the forty Niners when six and ten this year, and they decided to move on from college shining, which I don't see. Okay. I don't see that. But if they did, I would bet you the collar Shanahan would have another head coaching job within five minutes. And so I know it's easy and it's almost sport to say, well, is this guy's job in trouble. I think we've seen that the best organizations, usually, the most stable organizations, and what is it that everybody in? Football is always seemingly looking for whenever they have a head coaching opening. They're looking for the bright young fans of mine cow Shanahan. I would say is one of the two or three best young offensive minds in football all football. Okay. So they may go six and ten forever reason, and maybe they will move on from college Shannon number. I don't see it happening after this year. I don't see that. But if they did that would be their loss, and he would have no job within five minutes. So I just don't see that happening and we'll see how plays out. We will see. We'll also see if anybody is going to be on the field and a couple years with this, pending labor doom. That's what our next caller wants to talk about. This is Kevin calling from Connecticut with all the reports coming out this week about their possibly being labor strike in twenty twenty one when you think are the biggest hurdles that both believe. Has to solve both the players and the owners to keep everybody happy, the show. Thank you. Thanks very much coming. I would just say this that look last time, it seemed like the owners were intent upon keeping Roger Goodell's power intact, and making as much money as possible. They did both those things and the players seemed intent upon getting more breaks from work more time away from the facility, and they did that now I think in this go round, there's a few things that the players have to get I think they have to eliminate the fifth year option in first round draft picks deals that just really hinders players. I think there's gonna be discussion about franchise tags. Because when those were created in the mid to early nineties, it was done so that a quarterback. John Elway Dan Marino, couldn't leave his team. And now it's turned into a weapon that teams used to lock in a player and players hate it. So the owners are going to want maybe increase. Schedule. Maybe more playoff games, always more revenue. The players, I think you're gonna want a piece of that revenue, they're gonna want some ways to modify the current contractual system. There's a lot to get done here a lot and you're already hearing. About what a difficult negotiation, it could be. And you always hear that in advance. So I don't know that this is any different than any other year where there's doom and gloom forecasted. But I just think right now. It's I think it's an issue and it's a problem that sits in the future. And you'd like to think that both sides will address it tackle the issues head on get it done as soon as possible, and it won't impact football, it won't lead to any work stoppage. Nobody wants that nobody wins with that. And hopefully everybody gets it figured out before them. But, but I'll say this. There's a lot of strong language and big terms being used right now from something that may were may not happen in the future. Let's come back to the present for something that's very imminent in one fan wants to know what impact it might have on his team. Matthew. So my question is with the ravens vying for Gerald McCoy DC Brandon's Williams as possible creating candidate or casualty is contract has been restructured twice as many seasons. And I'm not sure thirty restructure likely. Well, matthew. I don't see that Nelson. We're according this Monday morning. We're waiting for a decision from Jearl McCoy. I think Baltimore square in the mix there. We'll see whether or not alternately he decided to go to Baltimore. If he does great if he doesn't great either way, I don't believe in impacts Brandon Williams either way. Brennan Williams is a guy that the ravens, I think value, sometimes when you restructuring contracts, you doing to create room and that's a team that always spends as much as it Ken to the cap and needs cap space, what goes to players that counts on and believes in brenham lanes is one of those guys, I don't think they're looking to trade him. Shop him release him. And if you like that I think that he's been there as a good soldier to give them. Cap relief. And of course, when I say this it's not like players just giving a team capital even getting nothing back. He's getting back guaranteed money now again I don't see Brandon Williams in trouble. No matter what Joel McCoy decides. And I do believe we'll get a decision later today as we tape this Monday morning. All right. Adam, we've had five warm-ups. Now it's time for the hardest OPEL Adam question, you say the Mets for last for last and definitely the most difficult one for last. Let's see if you can handle a Adam, Gino, from Chicago just calling one of the same of love what you do. Men. My question to you would be as a she Michigan fans. Who do you think is probably the biggest athletes ever come out of the university of Michigan other than Tom Brady, who was the question, Josh who was the biggest what athlete to come out of Michigan? Not named Tom Brady. Well, Charles Woodson was pretty good. He's pretty good. He did okay from south UC's, one of the greatest defensive players in NFL history. I think he's, he's worked out pretty well, Desmond Howard won a Super Bowl and be pay. He worked out, pretty well. Those guys obviously were colleagues here of hours at ESPN still are Desmond's case. Other guys, I'm thinking of off the top of my head about the new men's basketball, coach Juwan Howard that. That's a good one about Jalen rose about Jinro. Chris webber? Yeah. Define TNT announcer. How about I mean we can go on, Jim Abbott of Michigan? How about Gerald Ford journal forture president? I, he, he did okay for himself didn't he, Jim Abbott was a great Michigan man. Jim Harbaugh the head coach at Michigan. I mean, we, we got a lot of people that, that school is produced, and I'm probably forgetting right now about one hundred eighty six nine okay like those just the names like literally that just popped into our head as redoing this right now. How about Frank Clark who got traded to Kansas City this off season? Right. There's, there's a good player. How about Devin Bush who Pittsburgh traded up to go draft this year. How about so many of the offensive lineman that have come through Jake long a number one overall pick about friend of the? Podcast. Brian, greasy? How about Bryan greasy? A great man who's done so much good in our society. Yeah. I mean like around here on them not bragging, my school or anything, but it has produced in, in ordinate amount of good quality, upstanding, citizens who've done, great good in our society. One thing, everybody knows about Michigan men. They're always humble. And you just prove that Adam absolutely was that. What did I planted firmly in cheek? Yeah. That's not bragging, Josh. I'm proud of the things that Michigan is done to people. It's produced as you should be hailed on the victors. How about Arthur Miller? How about him? Rich Eisen my rich and that's right network. That's right. Yeah. Hails, the victors hail to the ask Adam callers for some great questions this week. We'll do it again in all likelihood next week. And we want you to get involved when we do so again, so make sure you give us a call. Eight six oh, five oh six five seven seven nine. Leave your question and leave your name as well. So you get the credit you deserve for being a part of the show. 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Washington Football Club President - Jason Wright

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Washington Football Club President - Jason Wright

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Team I grew up with as a die hard fan growing up Washingtonian team that has undergone so much turmoil lately. With an investigation going on with sexual harassment, even record this Washington Post coming out with new allegations. By former cheerleaders against the owner against people involved with the team, the broadcasters. Going through all that? Well, they hired a new president. Jason Right Jason Reich was former player went to the University of Chicago. Business. School went to Mackenzie was a consultant in now has been brought in as the first black president of NFL team. So, much going around about him in what a challenge he has. He is the guest on this week's business of sports podcast. We get everything his background we get into what he's been doing. Since playing again, talked about business school talked about working in consulting in how he came to be the president of the Washington football club and there are so many challenges ahead not even talking about Kovic Address as well. So without further ado guest this week on the businesses sports podcast the new president of the Washington Football Club Jason Right. Really happy to have a special guest on the podcast. The new president of the Washington football clubs someone up admired and. Followed throughout his career playing playing now, Washington football club. Jason Right. Welcome at businesses sports podcast. Thank you so much. It's a really a pleasure to be here. Yeah. You've been doing the rounds. It's nice to have you. Be On your dance card as well. especially to someone that had a background as a player agent in the team executive and sort of in a little bit. Let's start at the background with you because I seen and heard some things about you. I was really impressed. The way you talk about your upbringing. A father of that obviously had a fulltime job also activists. A mother that worked for an airlines and you're sort of instilled with a real sense of not only work ethic purpose from early on. Top about that. Yeah. Shore you know what? What? What? What you're referencing is. Now my dad civil rights activist and. But eventually realized that big bills. Wasn't a professional at the time and he became a chemical salesman and then realize like actually to provide for his family in the way he wanted. And to create opportunities for us to actually go out and have broader impact on the world. When he could imagine he really wanted to help give us a chance for economic empowerment, and so he started his own business going door to door selling insurance again, endorsed space in this hard stuff. I can't imagine that like the resilience and the fear and the worry in the back was mine around we're going to get paid you know and taken out the mass of loan to get a franchise at the time thinking about paying that back I mean it's just it's really remarkable and then my mom doing her part to just work and pay the bills on the interim. You know I slammed turnarounds from lax to Tokyo to get back in time to minimize spend on childcare you know really remarkable and I think For them, you actually put it really eloquently a combination of work ethic purpose. You know they had a purpose to make sure that as they would put it there ceiling of achievement was their kids floor. And that they needed to grind to do. And that's a little bit of how you know I see the world to the other things I care about their no causes I care about things that I want to see happen in the world and I see my role in it as you know working really hard creating opportunities for others. Yes, my kids are part of that broader them at helping to create opportunities, rathers especially, economically and that allowing us to. Move to being a better more functioning society over time. Yet I didn't really want to get to this beginning the interview but since you mentioned it in an activism in the bigger purpose where to time where obviously the world is a fire with different things. But. It just seemed like after June after the floyd protests around the country. Everyone kind of settled back, and that's always what happens people settled back to their nor in their stasis, and here we are again as we record this couple days removed from the Jacob Blake shooting in Wisconsin. Were removed from the Detroit lions basically. Scheduled activities Just as you see it and now leading club. What, what do you see coming out of this the reaction? Lives matter and in obviously your plans which are still being developed in instilling this from the culture at of their. Yeah. I mean I think on the football side you know a coach revere had said a clear marker and I'm fully aligned with. Not. Just. The strategy that he has for engaging there's an engaging the team on topics like this, but also just the spirit and the heart behind it as well. So what coach Vera is set out in it is our team policy around. New Guys using their very valuable in hard earned platform. To speak on causes like this, not just because it like this around criminal justice racial equity whatever it is coach appears basically said that look. My thinking on this has evolved over years through conversations with my players by fellow coaches and others, and our whole nation is going through a bit of an evolution in thinking about this if you're thinking hasn't evolved on this topic over the last few years I mean I don't know what to tell you. Dock your stock for some reason. At I think all of us. No matter your starting point you have learned more. You have grown in your thinking about topics like this around equity in society. and. Then he said I read the down on Constitution One. Read the Constitution it said to me that part of making this nation great is people being able to express their views. Help US evolve in move as a nation into something better to fulfill the promise of the original framing of the constitution. Because of that, I'm GONNA give my players space. To do what they need to do to express themselves and do what they believe is their part in moving us towards a more perfect union. And he's a and I I know what I'm. GonNa do. Around the anthem in this imagine he stated those things that's what he said but I'm GONNA give my players face to do and I am fully behind this both in letter and in spirit because for me as a player part of the big value of why put in the blood sweat and tears on the field. was because I did have a platform. And I affirmed that in our players have found that in sports relodge for that in anybody wherever you set whatever your platform is, whatever your spirit influences, you should you should use it for the things that you care by to a spouse, your values personal belief. So I'm behind it and I very much a firm, all the various ways that guys raise attention to the causes they care about especially as Li as pertains to actually taking action. and doing something to improve outcomes and change society in a tangible way on whatever it is a care about. So that's that's that's one piece of it. Maybe that starts to answer the question enter. Get to the business side as well but on the football side reference, your career playing. ME. Ask. You this. If you were in a moment of time like now then or even even I'm sure face issues like that during your playing career. Did. You feel restricted maybe too strong a word but did you feel hesitation to take these views affirmative stances A as a player but more. So as down the line player, not a star. Lebron is GONNA Be Insulated. From any kind of negative consequences with Dean Did you feel that as a player? I did not I did not personally as a player, but we also more in this environment right You know the things that we were talking about it. In my time. Now. While some people might disagreed with them, you know thinking about economic empowerment of both inner city communities fairly gone reversal education reforms early noncontroversial. Statements on faith in sports may be more controversal but not not substantially right now like in the center of fiery national dialogue. So. It's a different calculation than. Guys are making today I. Think what we have tried to do is create an environment and what coach Alvarez tried to do is create an environment on this team and I great this on the business side. In environment that actually is not a factor. Were that in risk calculation of is it worth it is their retribution what will happen? Etc Is non-existent Auditorium. Yes exactly. So I can't speak writ large I can't speak for other clubs. I know that coach Rivera has set that out for our guys to eliminate that or maybe you can eliminate. To minimize it and I absolutely want to provide that same environment on the business side and on the business side I think what it means, and this is every corporation I think needs to do. This is to give space for dialogue. To give space for folks of every background in all types to show how they are feeling. About the current moment what emotions at triggers? What it affects in them when they're and they're bringing to work with them, and then how do we as a company puts supports around that whether it is in a support for benefits support around. Counseling and outlets that are very personal or you know things that are more structural. You know what do we put in place to ensure that our business environment is one that promotes equity in a way that resonates with folks across the workforce. But I think it starts with giving people space to express an in space to dialogue. The best ideas come bottoms up through the workforce, and that's that's that's my on the business side while said. You. Know as a player you obviously were thinking about things and. You know onto business school booth. And Mackenzie now your role here you find that to be. Uncommon among your peers playing where you're really thinking about post career. How did you position yourself where you were you doing internships in the offseason worrying? At Day in time where I'm done with this amount the next. You know that was not in your position they only you're done the way right? Right. s majority of players Yes for me I always feel like my my natural ability was a limiting factor that helped me have the right mindset. About My. When you run for six the COMBI You gotta think about what's next? We were. Right, you know. I was mid four or five on a good day right? So So so I was always thinking about it because I really I really believed the aphorism of NFL stands for not law now. and I always knew that I think my brain would carry me further than my legs frankly. If I had to bet on my talent I would have. so I was always thinking about it. What I wish I would have done more of though and it's hard i. think it's actually hard forgotten about step back and say I think he's actually hard. You can think about it, but it's hard to take action because in order to be excellent in the NFL. Yeah, it'd be all in. It's about the minor details. It's about the extra reps on the catching jugs. It's about paying attention and watching extra film to understand exactly how the inch wide stepped affected. Your read your inability to cut back into the whole. I mean it is. We also have a game of inches like this is truly to me like it's automatically the most intellectual of our sports. It's math it's probability it's details. And so it actually requires not only a lot of physical investment but also a ton of intellectual investment to be successful player when rate limited in talent like me, it takes a lot of. and so you need to spend the time to get it done. So it doesn't actually leave a ton of time. To be proactive about some of the other things now in the off season I wish I would've taken more advantage of two things. One, the connections that I could've built while playing I didn't understand how network worked and how creates opportunities for you. Overtime, I still have this idealistic view the all you just work hard to get good grades you perform, and then things now that is not helping. People create opportunities for other people, and so we could go back I would build a really robust network of successful interesting people that align with my values would help me create opportunities for myself and others over time I, would have done that more. What I did take advantage of. The things that has interested in or the things that I was passionate about our thought might be interested in internships in off seasons in a one off season i. a basically did a bunch of seminary courses I learned. A. Renewed learned theology learn a bunch of stuff because interest in men and thought that I'd be something I did been zone on my best in terms of internships was working at state in the Sun Devil Club. As running their ticket as part of the. Ticket Office. Working in the ticket office Selling season tickets across sports and giving stadium tours and. Really valuable to me now. We're I'm sitting out the hands on experience of being someone in one of those call centers really helped me sort of chart, my course and so yes, I did take some advantage of vocational opportunities Gimme a vision for my skill set and what what was out there. But Man I wish I would have done more around my network. and. When you go to booth when you go to McKinsey In you're you're in it you know just like we were in football. Did. He did the idea of returning the NFL in any kind of administrative executive role harsher Mont before. It did not. It did not. It wasn't really on my radar I when I when I started at booth. Like I like to say, my inner nerd came raging back. It had been suppressed a little bit. For years in the League and I went to boot that a very interesting if a very rigorous quantitative place which just lit a fire, my mathematics analytic mind, which is actually my best mode of thinking. and. So you know I jumped in force learn how to Code outright algorithms. I learned how to see what I call like the Matrix ones and Zeros Code of financial statements. I loved it. I helped start a social social enterprise while I was there I just aided up. ATE IT UP and as a result, my interest pivoted from let's mail the familiar in the past to the future to what else is out there, and that's why it consulting was so attractive to me, it was a way to not have to decide what I wanted to be when I grow. Learn and continue to learn and Glean and get ideas and understand different types of businesses of different industries add very much delivered on that promise. Known people in Mackenzie were you kind of sent in house in different places where like understand the culture advise like we're GonNa actually put you there. Yeah. So the way that the model of the works is not fully in our day we mackenzie. That's GonNa take a while fully embeds with the clients. And it's not just about going into a room locker room coming up with the answer because that doesn't get implemented that ends up being a stack of papers on a desk. The model is to sit side by side with quiets embedded in their teams. Do the problem solving together, bring some outside ideas, analytics databases information that they might not be able to have on their own or not get as quickly on their own. You know provide some additional support analytic horsepower but work alongside people because ultimately you want to develop their capabilities that they can carry it forward because you don't want at least the model at Mackenzie is not to be around forever. Type of consoles just want to sit there and get a permanent office in your building. They want to build the capabilities and let you fly and they move onto the next challenging intractable topic to work with you on actually see that paradigm. That, that model of capability building and addressing problems is how I want to approach things. As well now this is about. Bringing in just some external expertise or areas that I know well. Coming in just. Fixing it myself and then saying all right. This is what I want. Here's the new plan. It's actually about working with the great talent. We have here augmenting that talent with folks that have expertise that were currently missing in the organization and collectively starting to build new capabilities. You know we have to build a robust HR enterprise here. And, we're going to do that. That's that's part of what I know is going to be something we need to do even before we get results from internal investigations and whatnot. I know what we're going to need to do. This other heirs we need to modernize. Our tools and capabilities in the way that we're approaching different aspects of the business on the revenue side So I I know some things we need to do and that that capability building approach to make sure we have sustained impact is on WanNa, think about back more washing football club president, Jason Right in a minute I the word from our sponsor Dr King's. This is Andrew Brand telling you. There are a hundred million reasons why should listen updraft gangs is giving away a hundred million dollars in prizes all their customers including one lucky winner will take on one million dollar cash prize. It's really easy to claim your share of the hundred million. Claim your share. All you have to do is download the APP sign up using Promo Code Ross RSS Enter draft can free football survivor pool, and while you're at the APP, don't forget to check out all the great daily fantasy crowd cat contests. draftkings is hosting for this week's basketball playoffs and of course, the golf. So again, download the draft up now Promo Code Ross RSS Claim your share of one hundred, million dollars in instant giveaways put yourself in running for the one million dollars to cash top prize the Promo Code Ross get your shirt one, hundred, million dollars in prizes only a draftkings eligibility restrictions apply see draft kings dot com for details back with more of Jason. Right. December, very analytical and speaking of the challenges you have the preliminary investigations, The Washington Post reporting about our aspen toxic culture. The name change of course, in all the things that have gone on limited partners potentially wanting out. You. were. Given this opportunity in terms of an interview process I assume yeah. Whether came directly from ownership from a search firm or however was done. Tell us about that process because I think you're in a position to ask all these questions. And if your take on this massive role, you wanted to know, yeah, that's right. That's right and I can actually know those three things I think are. Once we can address and I can give you a little bit of behind later on I thought about those in the process. You know the process started my network in the Snyder's network just overlapping at the right time they were looking for business executive. And it was kind of inevitable have been a business leader in the DC area and former player for some time and the owners of the NFL team in the DC. Area. Sometime. They connected at the right time I jumped into the process that was already ongoing and described this. Before while we did talk about business, we talked about growing the enterprise franchise value all of that stuff it actually the whole conversation with Dannon tiny rooted in values. And they talked about culture as the unlock for the performance on the field office fields for the organization. Values conclusion transparency accountability. We didn't just talk about it in a kind of way. Concrete Way. Note from everything from what policies and procedures might we brainstorm having in place on the business side that would create that kind of culture. You know what sort of talent and capabilities do we need in the organization or develop within our people to be able to actually spouse those values? Where would those behaviors manifest in growing the productivity and profitability of the enterprise? We talked a pretty concrete way. And and got quite personal to we talked about business mistakes. We each individually made, which was one of my favorite parts of the conversation not sharing sharing, and by the end of it, we were very very excited to work together, and if I think about the three things you laid out. There I have a different Lens on each in each of the three the first two I actually see as really big opportunities. So the the investigation that's ongoing and issues that we've had around sexual harassment and hostile work environment and all of that. I know that we have actually great talent around the organization I've seen it in three days here. We have really brilliant business minds on the business side of the House and I expected that because when I think back to my time in the League, the way I'd characterize the votes on the business side where really brilliant people who could make a ton of more money elsewhere but were in because they're passionate about the game they want to be close to it. Is Very much true here. So I know that if we get the culture, right? If we set clear expectations, people feel empowered people feel safe. They can bring the full selves. We have great performance, Management Processes, and folks that don't meet our leadership bar find their way into something else. It is going to unlock all of that talent in a way that's going to be massively accretive to this right. So I, actually see it as a really great opportunity and I know the pathways this is actually something I've done several times. With issues almost exactly like this. inning on where the fact Shakeout I know the three or four past to get there. So to me big opportunity that aligns with my expertise that might be scary to someone else not scared of. the second one around the identity change man what an exciting opportunity a very hard, very hard challenge given the passions of our fan base their connection to the history of the club. There's so much to work through and we do have a brilliant marketing has gotten a great start on it. But for me, it has the opportunity to life. This is a generation defining. Business decision. Who doesn't want that as a chief executive you know I'd rather be I duNno. For me I'd rather be taken. Something like that. Then counting means you know. Then the last one around ownership by a different take on I don't know all the nuances of what's going on in the classic is above my pay grade and literally is. is literally above my pay grade. But. But maybe I'm being nice But to me, the simplified approach is to focus on expanding the value of the business in the franchise. Because no matter. What if we do that? If we modernize if we get better capabilities in house, if we're growing revenue if we have better fan engagement, all of these things, it does nothing but help that conversation. As opposed to hurt it. And so I'm just trying to be a little bit focused there. Yeah. I can pitch roll said and I think you've concentrated your thoughts and comments obviously on the business side. And I was ten years in Green Bay we had. We had a bright line frankly between business football. It started way back with Ron woolfe and to get them to join back in the early nineties. He's like, okay but I don't want interference. Now we didn't have an owner. President CEO, and we had board of directors, executive committee. And as you noted, they stayed on their they're they're laying all kinds of shop and local politics and like you said, the culture, the business I frankly I was I managed the cap and do all the contracts I was kind of that. fulcrum point. Between. Earn long-term and the football side like Hey Andrew can get cash signed today like. By by tonight so I seen it and I think what you're describing is very familiar. So just for you to to articulate it, handle that. You're going to be on the other side now. Is that. That sounds good but. If player issues if you have. Something that rises to the level of your attention. You know can't be that black and white in terms of hey I never will touch football side. Correct. I think there. I WANNA say never but. The the practicalities require collaboration across us as the two to three executives of this great enterprise The way of describing the bright lines is that ultimately coach Vera delivers wins and losses and ultimately I deliver dollars incense. The over-simplified view of the bright lines obviously in a wins and losses. Of a but those are the bright lines in terms of where we focus our attention where we are where we are running point. That said there obvious where we have to collaborate closely across our teams and I've actually seen really seamless communication and collaboration this week. Even in my top team meeting, the football clothes are engaged on that just number one really smart, which is, which is great that good business intuition to some of the things that we're facing where we cross over. And are operationally good executor's. So it's like it's just a really good setup but the places we overlap in the near term I think are into things anything related to. Game Day operations and execution will overlap. mycosa running the stadium, the grounds, etc. The operation side where all coupled together collaborating around nineteen and our health and safety strategy around players in staff and others Those are joint decisions where we are very much embedded together. With maybe one group playing slightly heavier role than the others. But then also to your point in the message that we take out of the building, we are very much in saint. Coach Ovarian I talk about the words we use. we talk about how we want to express our culture extra because it is one culture. Across the two parts of the organization. You know there are different manifestations of inclusive transparent and accountable on the football side, and there are other ones on my side. Coach. Revered tune out the team on Saturday after a poor practice is accountability on the football side. Performance measurements in transparency into how we're performing is accountability on my side. Different manifestations, but it is the same culture and that's where we have. That's the trickier place to be line but the place where we are the most rock-solid heading. And it's interesting you both new. I. mean it sounds like he's the old guy, but he's been hasn't coached a game both right? That's that's. Operation in this incredibly difficult environment has his own personal health issues and leading the name change I mean it and now you. You. Know I. Guess what I'm sort of suggesting is there really is a new direction. With Washington football club with doesn't have a name. and. As a personal Washingtonian grown up, my whole life is a die hard fan I would say that had change when I started working for another team. But I'm energized and I think that's that's good. I hear it from my colleagues in. DC that. You know there's some energy around this, which is great. That's good. In you know to your point, you're not the only diehard, a former guy running around. This is an incredibly engaged families. And if there's anything I learned in my weeks, zero of engaging the media engaging with fans substantial this week, it's been more about business been more internal but one thing I learned last week it is how valuable an asset we have in our fans. Because irrespective a to whether or not. Some folks that passion is more negative than it was in the past that passion is still there. And that is something that we can absolutely build on by rethinking type of engagement that we have some very excited about as a as A. A tailwind. Yes. As we think about revamping the business improving productivity growing growing our revenue over time, it's spanned value the franchise. In our final minutes, I just want to ask you talked about internally you've talked about working with coach Barra. Would Matter Turnley primarily the league I mean you're you're new in the office now the first. got started coming in on Monday and have you had conversations league-wide obviously I'm sure the commissioner was probably part of. Your hiring process. Are you talking to other executives other air? Wasn't are the hiring process by Tok ten shortly after I was hired a super helpful in helping me think through who to connect within the League office to get smart Troy Vincent is a friend and a great a great resource. For me in this process. Has Already helped me think about. What resources are drawn from the League in getting up to speed WHO's been there you know who are the comparable who were folks have been accomplished situations who talked to I mean he's just he's been super helpful and and obviously given a bunch of direct guidance himself. As. Well other folks that I. Know In and around the League that I've got on the calendar and haven't gotten to yet. But actually. Really. I hadn't understood. Hasn't sat in his chair yet the dynamics between the team in the League or they've made themselves a resource to us. On all things business related and I can't wait to draw down on. And you're talking to someone who is not I guess that Awed by first African American executive because. I dealt very often with people like ride graves Kevin. Yeah Vision as the packers, the Vikings Ray Anderson a good friend. So you know. So to me, it's like not really. Yeah, you. Sitting at where everyone else has been overstated. The exactly I've said that to you know I these leaders you mentioned that I worked under now played under a black head coach. So for me it also I think at a subconscious level was like at will black talent can thrive all all over sports. Wrench. but I get that that is not everyone's experience not the pattern recognition they have and there is a gap between. The level of representation on the field most certainly level representations elsewhere in the business valid thing to. Consider about this is mark this as. A moment of progress in that direction on me to do a good job. I guess. Last question we have to deal with the crisis playing through pandemic. A, are you confident? I mean. Actions are down has peaked today. By reference, lavish you the other day but. So, many things to thread the needle to make this happen, and we've seen are different sports different issues. Are you confident in why? Blanket confidence would be the ultimate foolishness in my opinion. I have confidence in our team here in house really high, even more than I had heading in week has made it clear to me that you know our head trainer, our leaders in football ops compared a along with my head of operations on the business side. They know what they're doing. And they are excellent execution whether it's the technology that we have in house the process we have in house the tiered system. That we built in a way that the facility has been. Very quickly built in a way that minimizes the likelihood of infection is really remarkable executing the hell out of this. So, competent I also feel confident in the flow of information from the League to us. I've gotten updated information yesterday. Came to all presidents until all the folks that are leading no infection control work at the clubs of I've really confident in the information from the League so that we are. what I'm not confident in. The, changing nature of the if there's one thing that I learned in serving businesses because every business that we are serving. In my previous role. Starting in February. Koga. Doesn't matter what you were working on new product launch culture change operational efficiency. You had to think about covert response and how it changed, what you were doing from a business and operations standpoint. So I've been steeped in Kobe world for the last six months. Read I. Have Some really good pattern recognition I know that data will I know if there's anything that it is that that that the prognosis for your company can change quickly. What we learn about how things, how the how the virus is contracted spread changes frequently, the reliability what we know about the reliability of testing in two other technology changes you know on A. Daily basis it's now more weekly or monthly basis at which we're finding more about the reliability of technology things are evolving. And in order for me. So I cannot be confident fully. Confident in our ability to make sure that we know how things are revolting that we're engaging data around effectiveness of technology on a false positive rates, things like that that we're. Getting the most up to date information on a location by location basis especially when we think about travel. We, know the environment that we're walking into that we understand internally, you know who which folks are in most contact with others most frequently, and we have the technology to allow us to do that. We have to just keep our eye on all of that stuff so that as things inevitably shifts. We know we have data on which to make decisions that give us the best likelihood of good outcomes going forward. But. No anyone who tells you that we got this Cogan ain't GonNa be an issue. God bless will wanting data has shown with the NBA NHL Major League soccer is that bubbling works? Now. You're quite an operation to try to bubble. Yeah. But You know infections are down because people have hunkered down in training camp and I think people are smart but you have to monitor that. You know you're not going to boggle. That's right I mean, yeah. You the principles of bubbling that are applicable are around. Protocols behaviors. Testing, and some sort of visibility into all of those things. Right now that's what works in a bubble is basically keeping your eye on everything having strict guidelines for what you do don't do that rooted in science and then. Testing to make sure that nothing is nothing has slipped. We're GONNA apply those same principles just won't be in one site, but if you think about a conceptual bubble That is the facility and the individual homes of people involved with the club. That's. Our bubble yeah. Yeah, we gotta manage, that bubble. And then we're GONNA move that bubble. Who Get road? That's where it gets really tricky. And, we'll see how it goes I again, conference super confident in our ability to execute. Only control we can control, and inevitably if something happens somewhere will pivot in response to that inflammation and. Where you with fans you announced for the first one who three-day names. Yeah our default is that we will not have fantasies. I could go into all the details on your decision made prior to me but I one hundred percent aligned with it We can go into some of the data in in research behind that a lot of it based on the experience of You can call interstate but there be international travel in European soccer. and what we learned about the spread of the disease. through major events there that I think is really informed. Now Dan Dannon Tanya leadership's thinking about what we're doing. Expanse health and safety is our sports. We'll put a pendant jason that's great. ruin going on you. I'm a personal fan obviously fan team I look forward to new energy in what you're doing there. Thanks again. Thank you. Thank you. The pleasure of everyone enjoyed that I try to bring you the best and brightest the leaders in the business of sports. 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4) 20 year old beef!

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

39:11 min | 5 months ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4) 20 year old beef!

"Today new problems need new thinking with. Ibm retailers are turning to the cloud to restock shelves more quickly teachers working with ai to rethink the classroom. Let's put smart to work see how. Ibm helping IBM DOT com slash. Gg ovid nineteen. What's the game? We are champions. That song right there. It feels like championships home. You knew this was coming up. I'm looking at Steven A. And Jason Williams and Max Right now. How Legrand Fair in the MJ era? You knew that question was only a matter of time. What did you see the video that they were showing docker to jake throwing haymakers? Larry Bird back go yeah. I don't know who that was. Who was that wasn't a lot. Was that a lingerie with Houston. That was throwing them haymakers that somebody else Byrd fight. I don't remember the fight. It was somebody I don't know if it was thirty one thirty four couldn't really make it out but there's somebody going hey makers that was when the NBA was NBA. Now is yes rush. Just you know that was when the NBA was the NBA. They're showing all these teams winners. And this and that and you know we take it up a little bit. I still have papers to throw around over here guys at work. But you know teams and you know there's only eight teams in the NBA. That have won three or more championships thinking about that. Wow that's not that many. So can you guys name the eighteen that have won three or more NBA Championships? Go ahead. Travis will start no la. We'll start with us if you say you never go first. Go ahead dropped. I don't know maybe just doesn't want to go first so you see at eighteen with three more. Nba Championships. Yes emoryville dropped comics so we will be thirteen okay. He's dropped. So that means keyshawn. You start at all since you out there that I'll just throw. It Lakers Lakers. That's correct. They are second on this list but they have won quite a few championships or second to a certain they. They said it's GONNA confusing so yeah go ahead. I'll take the celtics the Celtics have won the most NBA championships. That's right with seventeen. So you understand the question right Elsie. I'm sorry did you request questions understand the question. And the Senate Tonio Spurs the Spurs are on that list. That's correct you do understand that. It's not a snake draft so you're not going to go twice here so that means we're going to go back to you. Keyshawn Chicago Bulls the Chicago Bulls six. Put them third. Nothing weird like you go from seventeen with a Celtic six to the Lakers and then Bam you drop all the way to six to the Bullshit. The dominance of those two teams liquors bulls. But WHO'S NEXT TRAVIS? I will take the Miami. That's a sneaky. One that sneaky with the tube of the Browser sometimes forget about the weight so they have three cats right. We're looking for teams with three or more NBA Championships to their credit According to my records got three martines on so we do go here the Detroit Pistons. Tie with my three all. Your math is very just carry one near. That's where I got to just trying to hear before you even finish the Golden State Warriors the warriors correct. Oh you guys are typing going on. We got cheaters. Going on over there. That would be travis. No I do things but I don't cheat I deal. It's my turn right. It is your turn the near as one team left. It's one of view actually might be doing this. This is not you. Don't even notice there. I'm sure that your final answer. Well now I WANNA say no no doubt billions on the list in. I think there's one of the team. I don't remember if you guys sit this or not but Go ahead see. I don't know how did it or not. There is one team left. I don't know it's like you like you like the lady. You like the lady at the grocery store the day she. I pulled my basket through the checkout line. She had a basket when they were packing. My Look Pratima groceries. I asked if the basket was clean. She said Oh I think it is well pretty good guy said the warriors yes I took. It didn't guess I think this is only the second time in morning. Show history that you guys have made it all the way through the mall so give yourself some nice job. I Know Buffalo Braves. One might be sneaky. Because I knew they want to in the in the early seventies but I don't know if they'd gotten third with the Knicks. The Knicks got a couple in the seventies. And I don't know if they had went back now I know they haven't once but I didn't know if they got seventy seventy three and they never got another. Which is why I cannot understand. Why the Hell we keep talking about the Knicks one of the great franchises in the NBA. And they have one. So you're baby is a New York. Miles appearances. Eight is good jobs just New York. It's the Knicks is MSG extension of L. A. L. as an extension of New York. It's just it's all the immediate. It's not crackle the Madison Square. What's your favorite venue Madison Square Garden? Where you like to perform at Madison Square Garden. I mean that's just walking down walking down holding onto the rails the handrails as you get to the bottom floor where the scene is all messed up. I mean it's just it's MSG that's what it is. You know how you say you weren't born then you were not born when you ask them. They want a championship. Also understand the magnitude of why we always throw them out there even though they were the same thing Dallas. Kyle you always talking about him because it's always indoctrinated in our brains for many years that s America's team and so we talk about the cowboys were were good. The cowboys won the Knicks. Good when our grandmothers were born to run the cowboys throughout the entire Seventies. Were good through most of the eighties. Were good through the ninety S. They were the best team in football. They thirty years of being really good. Put the Knicks. Were good toodle. And it's new and it other than a few. Patrick Ewing runs in that thing the Knicks at best mediocre and oftentimes talking about. I'm not talking about since we've been born. I'm just talking about just historically is it's like the giants the New York giants. I mean they were good with Lt and they were good with like Frank Gifford and they were good prior when they played polo grounds. Or whatever that is they probably was good back hand but the New York giants are going to always resonate because it's New York is giants. They've won enough super bowls in his New York. It's so new. York is always going to be push things up. You know that he pushed its New York. What are you I mean what it is you like it or love it depending on what you feel about it but I tell you what this young lady at the grocery store though. That was some funny. I'M GONNA go pick a different one or gary buy groceries in my arms but think about it though ills. You know once you pulling your own you take food out you put it on a conveyor belt you push your basket to the front by the time. I push my basket if she was loading in another basket so I had to ask her. She gives me think so. Don't you should know you bring this basket that I didn't ask for but anyway listen there's A. There's a lot going on in that area and that's all I'm going to say about that. I carry about spray with you. Put it this way. All Right. So the last dance episodes. What would it be? Five and six are coming up on. Sunday can see an at six o'clock on Sunday night you can stream one through four on the ESPN APP ESPN on demand. Right now the the Dennis Rodman Takeaway was port. One of this most recent weekend and the other far away was the rivalry and the just the downright hatred. That Michael Jordan has for Isaiah Thomas. Let's go back. Let's start with Michael in here. Michael Talk About Isaiah. Twenty plus years later after the fact he says now when his two actions then he's time enough to think about it or the reaction of the public this kind of changed his perspective. You can show me anything you want is no way you can convince me. He wouldn't have that still incredibly raw after twenty plus years. Isaiah listen to him right now. Here's Isaiah talking about the decision not to shake hands and I think Jordan said something. That was interesting in their take he said given time you know he's he's you know he may have a different opinion and of course in that moment when when we lost remember we were champion so we were coming down from the throne. They were assented. And everybody's emotions are different doing that particular ties while we were coming down and they were rising doing that emotional period of time that we do everything correctly no if they do everything correctly no but that was it in we. We walked off. We didn't shake their hands. And if you WANNA contextualized there's a lot of other stuff that was going on around the situation but that's what happened. Okay so Michael is I. Don't care what that guy has to say you've got Isaiah. Thomas said look a long time ago of course I feel differently about it. And then lastly we've got bill empire who just didn't give a damn then and doesn't give a damn now they'd lined and cried for a year and a half about how bad we were for the game but more importantly they were bad. People weren't bad people were basketball players winning so all of that whining. They did shake their hand. They were just they won. They won the series credit. We got old. They got past us. But okay move on. Why would I regret now today? I don't care what the media says about my never did if I did. I'd be a basket case especially back. Then you know. I guess it's about winning. Basketball Games and winning championships did forever. I had to do you get the most out of my ability and our team and we did the other day. We're called real champions beer twenty plus years later. It's like yeah whatever I did it. I don't care if Michael's upset I can live with that. It seems like a much healthier way to go about this. Yeah that's that's fine. I mean the way he feels. Isaiah feels the way he feel Michael Fields where he feel. Michael doesn't have to be in. They don't have to shake his hand is circum- to him or Phila- certain type of way because he feels asserted boy and that's perfectly okay. There's nothing wrong with would bill lamb. Beer said it's like okay. Get over it it's over with. I don't I'm not wasting my time thinking about the Chicago Bulls in. That's perfectly okay for bill. Clearly Isaiah Thomas is still feeling a certain way about the way. Michael handled the situation. And how Michael Dell waited promote from whatever whether it was You know freezing him out at the all-star Olympics making sure that he wasn't in and others were or whether it was Whatever you WANNA call it whatever you WANNA call it. Michael feels a certain way. And he's entitled to that and Vice Versa for those other guys if you think about it bill and beer has been blackballed out of the NBA has had an opportunity to be neither assistant. North head coach. He's had a lot of success and the WNBA but he's in his place in his in his life where it doesn't have any benefit for him to even reconsider. What happened thirty seven years ago? Isaiah Thomas obviously is in a different place. He's held a multitude of different positions throughout the League he's on NBA TV today. So it's more important for him. Especially since Jordan. Called him personally so it was more important for him and what he wants to do to make sure that as much context and the dynamic is out there as possible will build and Beers exalted effect. That he's not going to be back in the league and that he's not dude as someone that people wanna hear from a take direction from despite being a great player at his crime in his prime so you think you think he's black off in the NBA. Why hasn't Bill Beer Garden Assistant or head? Coaching job. Well maybe because people who are doing a higher and phillies coach or something. I'm just asking. I mean a lot to go. Because he's university he's University viewed as a bad guy and ask you know as Michael Jordan said the same thing that he said about Isaiah Thomas. That's a lot of people feel about building very quickly. Because he was a rough player. Or He's a bad guy because he's a bad guy. I don't know bill like that so I can't tell you a bad guy or not but what I do know is that the perception of him is that he wasn't just given hard fouls he were giving POWs because he was also a bad guy is the perception that go against them. Wnba in the NBA is aligned right. I mean they're they're together so if he's coaching in the NBA. I mean the WNBA. Why couldn't you get a job if they felt he was worthy of it in the NBA? Question for me I guess I mean think about it think about all the guys that played in the NBA that have gone on to do some sort of coaching in the WNBA. They still get a sniff of the NBA. They still get us neck beer as far as I know has never gotten a sniff from the NBA. Usc had two players taken in the NFL draft on the first round two players total. What's going on at SC? That's next on the morning show on seven to ten. Espn that conquest right. They're usually made me feel a certain way. And now just makes me shake my head. How in the world does a program like? Usc have two guys drafted in the entire seven rounds of the NFL draft two guys. You have first. Rounder Austin Jackson. Yeah second round and Michael Keaton but beyond that. Us's put five eight ten guys a year into the NFL to. Yeah it's IT'S A. It's a tough tall task to understand why this has happened to the program But I but I go back to coaching and not only coaching developing. And I can only go back to what I know is John came to the NFL. I mean went to the. Nfl came back to USC in one of the first things that he said to me in the whole recruiting processes that. I'm GonNa get you. You'RE GONNA be alright and you're going to be the number one pick in the draft as a receiver. Something that he had never done with a wide receiver. It was always Running backs of that nature that touched the football but he developed me and he allowed Mike Riley to develop me Mike Sanford and Delvonn Alexander to develop me in. Teach me how to play the game from a pro standpoint where you look at you guys. Now they're not developing. The guys can't play football. They know how to play. But they're not development to the level in which teams feel like. Okay these guys can help us play all those guys that are on those teams. They're they're they're recruited by everybody in the country but once they get the undeveloped. Is this as much assistance fault as it is clear that he's the reason you say the reason you say. Klay Hilton is because clay homes in charge right but it's the assist. Is that Clay Hill. Hired did develop the players. I know key that you put this on on climate and then I get what you're saying but to me seems like an administrative issue at least equally because Klay Hilton is where the Ministry of though on Chris Travis the administrators have nothing to with being coached on the field and coach classroom. Nothing to do with it. No I understand that. I'm not saying that Mike Bone should come out of his office until the guy had to get into a three point stance. That's not what that was funny. What I'm suggesting is Mike Bone and then his previous his predecessor. The guy that was there before him they know. Hey we're not winning a whole bunch of games. Why are we not winning? Hey we're recruiting the same guys. Alabama's recruited yet Alabama's put a bunch of guys in the NFL. And were not hate these this. This guy here was a five star guy and he didn't get pick where that guy over there was a five star guy and he was taken to the first round. I don't even know how to teach a guy how to run a route to to be able to add and subtract but my bowl. Mike Bone just got there too now. And when you look at Mike bones other stops what I mean. Colorado what San Diego State? I think it was Cincinnati and may have had a couple other stops along the way we're programs if he turned around you know or or been a part of that historical to the point where. Us's being no. I get that but key at the same time. Mike Bone lives in the world of college. Athletics you know the. Us footfall key lives in the world of college football in sports because he's an athletic director. He may be so oblivious to what's going on you wouldn't even know you're telling me that there's a possibility that the guy. That's the athletic director. Usc does not even have a cursory understanding of the tradition that goes along with the US's football program really hard to believe. He kept a coach. And everybody wanted out you tell me. He walked in. He kept a coach. Everybody wanted out not only that. How many of the Great Trojan players have he reached out to since he's been the athletic director? I really would want to know that I really want to know the different carson. Those really not because because anybody in the right mind just taking over a program knows who to talk to. You automatically know to talk to I. I could give you a perfect example. No hold on one second perfect example. Okay I ran a seven on seven football program in La for a number of years. Willie Taggart took the job at the University of Oregon and nothing to do with La sc nothing but he wanted to recruit La Willie taggart reached. Ow He reached out is Matt. How can I get some of these dudes up here to Oregon? He reached out because he wants to be connected to the right people to help him do what he needs to do. Well when you got an athletic director who comes to town who doesn't reach out to a number of people that played at sea at a high level and you kind of stay away and we'll talk to him and leaving him alone. That's not the way you do that tells me you're not connected the way you need to be about the tradition of SC and the program. I agree with that but I don't think that necessarily means he doesn't understand football or that he doesn't understand culture he may not necessarily be doing it. The smartest of ways but I'm not going to dismiss his entire career because I don't know what his brand of leadership is some people choose to lead. Maybe different the way this other people chooses to leave. We sit in all kinds of variety ways of life. I'm not really yet to say he doesn't understand collegiate football because he's not reaching out to alums the way that he should be or the way that I would if I were in his position. I'm just I just can't fathom a guy at Alabama who's the athletic director moving need. I can't I can't I can't look this state in her networks in Ray Anderson and Scott Graham as ignoring that things that are important. That's just the way to go back to what you said about Alabama for second Keat Alabama would never ever hire an athletic director. The didn't understand what Alabama. Football is but this is my point the whole idea of where the program is. It's Clayton obviously has a great deal of responsibility for what this is but so does the athletic director and so the people that hired the athletic director you. If you were telling me ten years ago make a list of the schools that care the most about their college football program. Sc would absolutely positively been on that list and near the top and right now with all the things. We're time whether it's clay Helton whether it's the assistance where the administrator whether it's the board at USC that hires all of these people they've they've needed this clearest a we don't care about this the way that we used to because we hired an athletic director that doesn't get it who led the code. Stay who doesn't get it. Who's who recruiting the players aren't going to the NFL. There's nobody there that says we are USC. For God's sakes what are we doing here? Where's that person? Well they don't you know they don't communicate with those people. Let's just say that this list that they got the old way of doing things until they start to listen to stop being. Hardheaded you go. Steve keeps seeing guys that. Are you know two guys one guy here? A couple of free agents there. You're not gonna see that dominance like a Lsu that got fourteen fifteen guys drafted or to Alabama or the Oklahoma's you know until you start to started. Listen that's what's GonNa happen or as a mile as as my mom used to WanNa tell me and I'm sure your mom told you that are there you go. Yeah you or you know. I haven't heard either one of those there right. That's GonNa Sleep and I'm very very disappointed in my brother at this. D- Bob on this one. We'll see we'll see the board to GEICO. Has the insurance industry leading up and let you manager policy anytime anywhere? Which means that. Geico is always there for you. If only everyone was always there for you like animal control when you're cornered in your garage by an angry possum me again. You said you would be here about an hour ago and think the positive is starting to get angry fire. Listen I thought if I said it would go away. But now it is ripping holes in the drywall and making some SORTA nest. Just coming back. Geico always there for you with savings and the industry leading mobile APP the NFL schedule is typically going to be released right around that first week of May and it is still expected to be released at that point but according to a story in the New York Post the schedule makers are in the process of coming up with some alternate versions including one that has the Super Bowl moving back to February twenty eighth. The season starting may be about a month later than it typically does know by weeks no pro bowls and I think this is just going to be standard operating procedure for all of these leagues. At least in the short term that the schedule that we've known for years and years and years is kind of out the window. Wow that weather and Tampa February going to be perfect. Nice right. There's going to be perfect. You can go right from the NFC championship AFC championship game. Roll right into the Super Bowl. I'm all for it. If that's what happens I don't like the the the weekend between and I think if you had to push it off a month or so from the start of the season that makes sense. It gives everybody an opportunity to get on even ground. It gives them an opportunity to maybe have some sort of mini camps before training camp some sort of Ota's before actual training camp. So I don't think it gets into the way of anything that the television people have to go to work and figure out how to schedule everything. Because you're gonNA essentially cram in eight nine months of sports into four five months. And that's what's going to happen basketball BASEBALL FOOTBALL HOCKEY ALL POTENTIALLY COMING BACK. Sorta Kinda at the same time which is going to be great. That means that you won't have to worry about being. You know feeling a certain way. You know how you go through that period where you get all basketball suzy. Nba season is over. You're like man I got the summer and we ain't doing nothing just baseball baseball and it's like well you only WanNa Watch certain baseball games. And that's pretty much it and then you get into football season where now it looks. Sounds like everything is going to be every single day. Point to have something on your television as long as super bowls to happens during black history month on good call. I'm just man. Get a little bit closer to the end but as long as you still within the parameters of February. I'm good in today's black quarterback. GotTa be into to World's TAP cash back so we're fine. We're finding that regard. I feel he's GonNa be therapy season for the future that I've not seen this soft spots on that team right now I don't. I don't mean a black quarterback. I just need to make sure that the NBA has a black history. Programming happened right around the time of the Super Bowl. I always like those. That have been yes they would do. Go back. Certain citizen GONNA go. It really is going to be nuts that lets us obvious. Picking Data Thin Air. Let's say everything comes back online July fourth. Okay you're going to have baseball with a compacted schedule you're going to have. Nfl training camps. That are going to be just about up and running. You're going to have the conclusion of an NBA season. You're going to have the Stanley Cup playoffs. You're going to have all of the Gulf events that have been postponed going on. You're going to try to shoehorn tennis. Us Open you're going to have all of these different things coming up. The master's is going to be played in November. You've got just like you. Were saying a short amount of time. It's not just that. Oh the dodgers are playing the rockies this night there's going to be the masters on the same weekend that there's something else major going onto everything all at once. We look forward to the calendar of the sport. You're being okay. There's this major event and we got this major event. There's going to be one every weekend for the foreseeable future. Once we come back online with without fans think it's GonNa be good regardless put. I certainly would like to have fans in attendance because that means that workers will be working people be making money. They'll be able to afford to pay their rents in in corn oats and mortgages or whatever the case may be insurances or whatnot. Economy will start to kind of maybe get back into some sort of good shape. That's kind of what you WANNA see. you WanNa you wanna see those sorts of things now again as I said before. Maybe there's without fans for short period time maybe all of a sudden there's fans that are an unlimited pace. I I saw so funny. Have you also say the I saw but I saw? I think it was the Japanese league. They had corboy cutouts. That were interesting also had chicken. That was at the game. It was the funniest thing ever it was it was hilarious does just see. I'm like why do they have core? Worked stance weird to see the stadium? That's why cheer cheerleader cheering to work. Cut Out to cardboard cutouts where but you know everything about twenty twenty from January. Orange has been weird so I'm like just go for it. Let's just go have a year of business and a lot of things that aren't going to be right. It's going to be right. They're thinking about having the US Open in tennis which is played in New York and California just to get open in because you can still hosted event in Indian Wells that's GonNa feel are weird but something l Z. Why would they have it in California posed to New York in July or August? I think a couple of things at play one. We know the numbers and New York City to we also know that the transportation situation in New York is very very. Shall we say social distancing resistant? So so we were. You know the train the subway is there and essentially they still feel like it's going to be under heavy duress that they can't take that chance and because palm springs is out in the open a little bit. They can manage that a little bit more. That's one of the conversations they're having it's so so so everything. Thirty thirty teams anywhere. That's my point but you know what for for a while and then we'll get back to either normal or whatever the new version of that might be but I'm here for it. You know what I mean. If you WanNa give me everything that we missed over the last you know I guess it's been a month and change right now by time we're back online. Say IT'LL BE A couple of months plus if you WanNa take all that stuff just jam it in the back. Half of the calendar Great. Let's do it and I don't care I want. I want to see the. Us Open. I want to see the masters or want to see all of these things that we didn't get to see on schedule office schedule. I don't care if it's in different parts of the calendar just do it to get it to the days for arbitrary anyway but they said we used to were fairly said anyway. They're very well bookworm. This that are set up based upon something. That isn't just random. Yes there is some absolutely. There's some arbitrary nature but a lot it with some of these sports is weather to it. We got certain things at certain times and certain places because of weather. And Oh here's the other thing too new bent Deke TV right that we need certain things on it at certain points because hey I have an opportunity to grab as many viewers as I can here because I'm the only show in town or on one of only two shows in town whereas everybody is going to be competing for those same eyeballs. Come back half of this twenty twenty year. Well not really. Because they're going to schedule. It is such a so many different platforms. They can put sport venues on. I'm sure within these television contracts they can move from. Espn ESPN TWO ABC two to eighty spn. Three the social media. I mean I'm sure there's ways within the contracts that says as long as we put it on we can put it on any of our for sure. No I'm not talking about an opportunity for where to put it what I'm talking about this this situation. Let's say the master's and right now scheduled to be played in November and we all know that the masters is played on the weekend right that you have. The final round of the masters in Tiger Woods is competing for another title at the very same time you have a high level. Nfl game going on on the very same Sunday. Those things typically do not overlap. You do not have the masters competing with the NFL. They'll be channels to put all this stuff on. It's just a matter of us like what if what if the masters do maybe masters decided to do it on the weekday or maybe the NFL decide to. We're going to do games or instead of Sunday. We'll do them on Friday nights or something because there's not going to be high school football. I don't know we thought it was going to be a lot of moving pieces. There's no question about that. I don't care when they play. Play play just played just quite common. It is absolutely come sooner than later. It looks like to indeed. It is time for Cross George Saddam Chick. George how are things today for you? Things are good gentlemen. How are you doing great thank you? It's great to hear from you again. I don't know if you're GONNA be there but I'm glad you're there today is here. He's here today. What you know I was going to say that is very true. You don't know what I'm going to be here. I like it that way. I kind of like. It's just like an extra surprise. I always love talking to Travis and Zeba. When you're it makes me perks me up a little bit. Put it this way. I count the minutes. We know we're well aware surprise that were four episodes into the last dance and we haven't heard from Toni. Kukoc jet I. You're not the first person to bring that up. My understanding is that we will start to see him when they start doing the Dream Team stuff and again that we'll start to see him when they do. The Dream Team's okay. I just wanted to clarify that. Yeah key too much. I'm not you and your little buddy over the air. Is Tony Coaches Tony? Cook no get into this you at least right. You need the individual whatever. Toni Kukoc coach. Don Pippin talion by the way he's Yugoslavian the point as every other guy. That's been a part of this bulls dynasty has shown up even guys that had fairly small roles guys like Bill Wennington and guys like we'll do a Jug Bush or who had not made players in this we've seen little snippets of them through the first four and not for Cuco but we didn't see. We didn't see Horace Grant until this past weekend so we didn't see him in the first weekend and he won three championships. I think that I think they're just developing story. Yeah Yeah Developing the story. We'll see Kobe this weekend. Because that'll be nice. Yeah I mean it's in the commercials like is it it you know. I think it's his fur Kobe's first all star game against Jordan. Yeah I want to say was that. I wonder if they had a chance to interview. 'cause they obviously interview so many people had a chance to interview. Kobe prior to they did it was a week before. Actually the passing I. That's how is related to me okay. Well that's good. Yeah but it so I was gonna say the last two episodes pretty. The worm is my favorite time. There were there were George. Gosh man that do you. Did you ever hang with him key? I you know I never hung are Kinda always when I whenever I see him. We speak yeah in having long conversations because he could get a little long winded in 'cause most of the time I think he's you know he's still in good. Yeah and so it goes into you. Know you gotta be yourself and let people me tell you what to be. You know. Just one of those type conversations. Yeah at the same time. I'm looking at here. I'm like yeah I'm GonNa take you if I shoot life advice from the war. Are You surprised George? That were Gosh. What are we re twenty four years past the Eastern Conference finals? That we've been talking about the last couple days that that both Michael Zia's still have such strong feelings about that and the refusal to shake hands. Oh no no. I'm not surprised. I was sure I'm sure he isn't surprised. Either I mean first of all. You're talking about two of the most competitive stubborn dude. You'll ever come across. They can be very warm and fuzzy when they want to be but more times than not their killers for a reason and we forget that Isaiah Thomas is the only guy really to be Jordan. Bird and magic in their prime. I don't feel like he gets enough. Do Look I'm not the biggest Pistons Guy or Isaiah Thomas Guy even but he deserves a lot of credit and by the way I do think that Jordan has dragged this handshake big out. Maybe a little too long okay. Like like we get it. You weren't happy about it. Lebron did that with Dwight and we made big deal about it for five minutes and like this feels like it's been twenty thirty years. I don't think is just a handshake well. They didn't like each other. Yeah they they they try to kill them little and so as an athlete when someone is trying to ruin you in your career. You don't take light of that and just dismiss it because you don't play the game anymore. I'm going to always remember that. Do like like like the Gunther Cunningham defensive coordinator. At the time for the Kansas City chiefs he daunted my head. He wanted my head. He put a bounty out on my. I'll never ever respect him ever when I see him. Oh if he's even still alive. I don't even know if he's still visit. He like a defensive coordinator somewhere right. Now why did you go? Why did he want? Why did he put a price on your head? Because he just didn't like me. I was coming into the League to Brash. Oh throw it all. Yeah exactly so. He felt that that's what he was going to send a little message to meet. Cunningham died last year in May know really resumes. Peace with steel. I want peace but still are you are you are you gonNA. Are you gonNa make amends with him? Now that he's gone. He's worth condoling three K. Of Flowers or something you know what I'm saying. He can't harbor. Ill will demands gone. You might as well let it bygones be bygones this. I don't even think about it like that but yeah I understand what you're saying but if I was ever play against him being. Yeah it's like it's like that'll Jeff Ireland gentle assistant general manager from the New Orleans Saints. One of my favorite It has Ryan stuff. Yeah I don't I don't I don't like him because he's you some about me. Oh He's you. He says something about me. I didn't think it was going to get back to me. So why never ever speak to him when I see him? What did he say that I was GONNA say? Give it a progress stopper as a player as a people as a player taught me a progress when you when he was in Dallas and you were in Dallas he called. I don't know why we signed a opera. That guy's GonNa ever play in front of him and they're just gonNA keep playing okay. How did that work for you? Miami a progress Stopper Free. Sodano show is coming up next. We'll see it here so shocked show.

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 708  Fireside Chat: Gone Fishin & A Bombshell!

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 708 Fireside Chat: Gone Fishin & A Bombshell!

"Welcome to the fireside chat, presented by Rhoda, graphs and pitcher list, sit back, relax and enjoy Paul spore and Nick Pollock. Hello and welcome episode, seventy eight of the sleeper, in the bust. It is Friday, June twenty-first, a double dose of pods today, because this is a fire side chat. So I am joined by Nick Pollock Nick going on. What is happening? We're back another evening afternoon by the fire with you strike. It's good to see you. Good to see you as well. We cranked to crank the air up for the fire to feel good as otherwise. Why there's just not suitable for fires right now at least not where I'm at. Get some rain up there. We have been, but it's nice and sunny right now loving it. Okay. Yeah. I, I'd heard of some, some rain did the first part I part of the day with Ariel Cohen. He's up in that area did trade talk train phone call with Ian Kahn also in that area. So I knew that you guys had some, some bad weather over there. So good. Glad that it's turning around. We're going to talk about a place where it rains out was stupid. So it doesn't mean all the time. We're gonna talk about a place that has nice haircuts like yours. Oh, thank you. Thank you, see that. And that would be the lovely place of Miami. Correct. We are gonna talk to Miami. And you know, these guys are kind of the, the, the buzz right now. In fact, talked a little bit about both of them with aerial worthy of fireside those still we're gonna talk folk, we're going to focus on, of course, gallon, and Jordan Yamamoto as it relates to the rest of the rotation in Elliot's Hernandez, going to get some love in there, too, because he's been pitching pitching well, so it's starting to be a little bit of a log jam. You know, I believe they went the longest this year with just their top five right? Only starters, right. And then. Right. As that note started to float around they got like three injuries. Right. Yeah. Smith, and we'll pay you, you ask me on the cast last time he weeks ago. And then that day or Enya went down there you go. Utter jinx even worse than the old the old. No hinder James. Yeah. They just started dropping like flies. But these injuries have opened the door, right? We're waiting for that gallon for most of the year really everytime, sandy, Al Qatar out about stars like Zach. But really when you looked at it those five which would be Renya Smith. Lopez Richards and outcome. Terra were really holding their own. And so they had their ups and downs probable, peds had that, that one shellacking Glebe against the Mets where you get ten runs that wasn't going to be enough. They never really had more than than one disaster start. And that usually get back on track. So they, they were holding their spots. Well, that's changed because because of these injuries and now Hernandez Yamamoto and gallon all got opportunities. What's put going off? He's probably gonna he's going to be like the finisher here will we're probably talk the most about him. I wanna start with Jordan. I'm a Moto. Back to back seven inning decimation of the cardinals one thing I want to ask quickly, though, are you, do you take any stock out of them or or less than a little bit due to the fact that at least recently over like the last thirty forty days the cardinals have been painfully awful against righties. I do put a little bit of stock into it. I mean it's not like he faced the Red Sox, or the lettuce or any are no, right? Because hand be good. But they right. Going back to I guess I could do the last month. I'm actually gonna do may, I think it goes back even further. And you look at the cardinals in WRC plus against righties their fourth from the button. There twenty-seventh around teams like Detroit Ronald Baltimore in in the Marlins themselves. Yeah. Yeah. And a half our own, you know. And it actually I mean, I guess the spill of beans and how I feel about Yamamoto it kind of explains why this guy with this kind of middling stuff has done so well for two starts. I mean across the board with the Moto his stuff is fine. I guess it's one whiff, so far and fifty eight four seamers thrown. He actually shifted away from it, and that's I can start. He threw a lot more sliders and curve, and that worked, I guess, got him a lot of stupid innings fifth inning. Just actually that actually encouraged me a little bit, though, to see a motor change approaches to see that he has more than one way to kinda kinda go about it. That's a great point. And I would say overarching for twelve hours, you should own Yamamoto at this moment. It's again such a barren landscape him saying this for past two weeks. We've actually talked about it. I'm pretty sure. Really? Right. And read the point. I think we're actually had the valley of it. Now it's going to get more. They're going to be a lot more options in about a couple of weeks or so as, as more prospects, come up, also more owners, don't pay attention of monthly trends, as we great so into edition that some more prospects. Players falling off and not paying as much attention the guys who have been replacements establishing themselves in the guys, they replaced coming back. So all of those factors are going to work to strengthen the pool it generally, we do see this, every single year round the all-star break, or so is when we start getting all these options that we can play as we move towards our playoffs, but for Yamamoto. So right now until teams I'm okay owning him. But it's definitely you're right. We should give him credit for being able to change that approach. But the second of itself, isn't that great. It's fine issue. It's, it's okay, the fact that he got out with that curve ball slider over the plate. Okay. Fastballs, nothing to write home about has mediocre, I think of a pitch is I've seen out there. It's not like it's eighty seven miles per hour or something. But it's not like it's going up to ninety six or whatever he's just kind of laying in there and it's like, okay that's a fine pitch. I guess it's at ninety one point five four Sima right now. It actually was down there, you mentioned eighty seven. It was like eighty six eighty seven at the Arizona fall league. When air can Kylie wrote up their prospect report on them. So you'll see the low velocity that he had on the Marlins report for Jordan Yamamoto Yamamoto to his credit. He's gotten his back. He has pot ninety four but it's not a special fastball. I mean he's the proverbial kitchen sink guy, which I don't hate it. Can it can create some different ways to be successful? But overall, I think it kind of caps the ceiling and it always reminds me of this phrase, it's actually football related, but it's the same. It's a similar sort of deal. My dad would always say, you know, it'd be talking. Oh, you know, they've got this quarterback that quarterback in this one. My dad's like if they have three quarterbacks, they don't have one. Right. If you have six pitches, you probably don't have an ace pitch unless you're you Darvish at is peak. But if you have to have that many pitches, you are unlike they're all probably pretty mediocre, right. Exactly. And yeah. I mean there you'll probably see like the splits, by the way. For the four seamer of Yamamoto going all the way down to eighty seven or so that's actually turned into his cutter, I wouldn't be surprised that that's just a mislabeled just really badly throat cutter. Yes, he has cutter throws in there just kind of falls in. It's again it's fine. It's on well over forty pitches this for me. And this is complete money pitch rates. But it's really it's, it's okay, it's against the cardinals. They're just don't really know what to do with it as all right. I expect against any other reasonable opponent Yamamoto's not gonna impress much. But it's again it's like a middling guy, I guess, I would probably call him a Toby. Honestly. If anything really, he's not something, I'm going to go and chase. But yeah, he's probably gonna be like the, the bottom two guys mytalk teamer. Yeah. That's the thing in my piece about Jordan Motorola's like in twelve team around don't even know if I'm necessarily going forward. He's he is that typical guy that, that bring up a lot both with you. And with Justin on show, he probably has to be on some team. It's not necessarily your squad. So if you look at your pitching and you like all your guys, I wouldn't bend over backwards to cut somebody for Yamamoto maybe he just belongs on a different roster. He's going to get picked up a bunch this week. And I fully understand that it's just not going to be the spore squads going for them. Are you going to start him against the Phillies? I think I would if I did, if I gave them right? If I pick them up. I'm gonna go ahead and run them out there and see where we're at it is at home for the first one, and then I believe he gets Philly a gen wrecked. Yep. Oh, yeah. The he gets filling this weekend. Right. And then fill next week at home yet. This sunday. Saturday. Yeah. There you go. Then go, so. Yeah I get Philly at home next week. I'll take a shot with it. And you know, he's shown that facing the same team twice in a row and doesn't have an elephant. Now granted, you can't carry that full or references study a few times baseball beyond the box score did a study years ago about two starts against the same team in a row. And there's no rhyme or reason to how the first one anything ever, remember. I think it's even beneficial for the pitcher any. Yes, if anything it was officially. So, so I want. Yeah, exactly. I won't put any sort of stock into that. All right. Well, then let's move on here and talk a little bit more. Let's get a little Elliot's or Hernandez, taster here. We're cleansing the pallet. Join Yamamoto was the first course I just don't know that we're going to have a whole lot to say about Elliot's or so. We're going to kind of use him as the transition and then we'll finish off talking that gallon and the outlook the rest of the the rotation at large Hernandez for his part has pitched. Well, so I don't want I'm not trying to shade him. I just feel like he's lower on the priority list, which by the way, little pet peeve. I believe that means you'd be higher on the totem pole people misuse that. I think the lower end of the totem pole is the more heralded -sition. So I think that phrases often misused. That's a good point. I never thought about that. Yeah. Similar to when people talk about the quarter pole, which is a horse racing reference. That's when there's a quarter left. And yet when we're a quarter away. Into the season. UCR Nichols and podcasts at the corner. No, we're not at the bottom of the totem pole. So there's different ways of interpreting, that it's like I'm the one with everyone sitting on me which you don't wanna be right? So you want to be the top like standing on everybody else. It's a good thing. Well, that's the way we use it. But the way they're put together, I believe, is that the bottom has the most important right? Exactly easy to take off. It's kind of like because they add the first one there, you're the most important, so anyway, sorry for that tangent, but Ellie I will always embrace those. I think he's at the top of the totem pole or low on the priority list right now. He seems to be a little bit kitchen sink as well only with three pitches, but needs all three of them right to really do. Anything doesn't have a hard fastball or anything but has a cyanide change. It then he uses regularly. And like I said, a couple of good starts. I'm intrigued by the thirteen percent swinging strike rate if only because it followed a sixteen percent interpolate for forty eight innings this year. So I wonder if he's added some swing and miss by making some sort of moves, or if it is just small sample. But what do you know of Elliot's Hernandez? And do you think he has an outlook, at least in the short term or could he still a roll, your could he'd leapfrog Yamamoto, right? I think is better pitch between the two them or the best wine, a better saying, right? The slider is actually before pretty well. This far seventy. Twenty seven percent. Swing straight on that's lighter. And I think honestly changes or right. It has a lot of depth on its prizes. Guys to with it. The overall approach with Yamamoto. At least Louis facile. He does have a better command of where it's going, but or ID of worth coming every, every single time leaves his hand. Well, with Hernandez does seem a little more sporadic. It's, it's. I always say this round but always just say it's fine. You know. All right. Yeah. This is a guy. I you know, I think there's can't remember, I don't know who to credit. Exactly. But I remember football is even just another guy. Right. Jack. I don't know who came up going. I'm Jack I don't know either. But it started to permeate the baseball culture, too, especially when you're in shell or leagues. There's a lot of a lot of Jaggi nece where it's just like, come on. And she does by the way, another tangent. That's my challenge of playing like ten team leagues. I see the waiver wire. And it looks like it's so rich in talent because I'm so used to fifteen teamers. And it's like you have to reassess that guy's not that good here. He just doesn't make the Aden attend team or so anyway. I'm tangent city. Is this we're gonna go that's me? What what's going on here, a little bit longer on is one sport? What is this where am I being dog? Anyway. Sorry. Yeah. Internet is so start recently. What, what, what are we going forward it? Same thing against the cardinals. It's hard to really assess. Face the cardinals both times to. It's just like all right. And the thing is honestly, I mean, we're talking about the rotation of the Miami when everyone gets healthy or, you know, we don't know how rain is going to be how long he's going to be out four. So I'm just kind of a longtime. Yes. So, honestly, I mean between a Moto Hernandez if you really debating between one of them. I honestly think that Hernandez is the better one to chase just because of that slider. And I think he can't be more effective with that three pitch combination than Yamamoto that, just, I don't know. Honestly, he was just flinging breakings breaking poll by air six, and it's just like someone's just going to yak this, you know, he's going to walk a guy that's going to be a blueprint blast kind of thing with you have a modo. Well can imagine Hernandez being more consistent with this floor and having more strikeouts per game? I think too. Yes. Yeah. Hernandez, by the way in a. No. You don't you don't put a whole lot of stock in the pedigree did come as a rule five from Houston. I do. When I see some, you know, when these guys come from the deeper organizations, I do like to give it a little extra. Look doesn't automatically mean. I'm gonna make like a major move over it. But, you know, they've had such an amazing talent pool that they're run off has filled the rest of the league. You know, you could just come up with a bunch of different obviously everyone knows about JD Martinez. But go look at some like the smaller moves that they made like Ramon warrior on was in a small deal he was from Houston. Obviously d'amico Santana came I can keep going through. But Elliot's Hernandez rule five from Houston. So you like him over Yamamoto. Let's shift over to Zach gallon. He's, he's the prize right now. He's damore heralded prospect of the group by the trail by far. In fact, he's a MLB wide heralded prospect. Now he came in, you know as as a prospect of note, but really took off this season like this was not the continuation of Zach gallon. Elite sees it. He really if they ran what they will at the all star break, and he won't have enough hitting. So he's gonna pop up on a bunch of top one hundred's, when they run them at the all-star break. Thanks to a ninety one inning sample at triple a, with a thirty four percents. Strikeout rate five percent walk and it helped fostering one seventy seventy RA and point, seventy one whip what's that gallon doing to put together this kind of season? And is this pop up. Is it real? By the way, he came over in the San Diego Tara wisened, L content in the Marcelo, Zun deal and Yamamoto was via the yelich steel mice. So we were hold wondering what on earth was going on with gallon. I remember this like he was killing it at the beginning of the year. And there was zero reports I couldn't find a single thing Tommy, what he did. He was the mystery pitcher. They're all just waiting to see. Let me just finally see it and my understanding, I mean they're calling it a cut her on baseball savant. I'm calling slider. That's a really good. Pitch. And same thing with his change of both of those secondary pitches are going to get a lot of whiffs this year. He has a curb that he throws the clear fourth option. But it's still not like your throwaway pitch. I think he's gonna throw down zone get early outs with that often. And then the fastball was going from about, like ninety one or so up to ninety four times I imagined probably sell around, like ninety two ninety four. It was him being a little amped at times, but maybe a little bit more. Maybe he does get a longer stride as he. It's a flat back in ads may be touch veto as usually years ago on, usually toned down a debuts v low like a half to a full tick. Right. Just are generally, it's just a general rule. They don't always drop it, but he was a gallon was at ninety two seven. I would assume ninety two maybe ninety one and a half going forward as the average with spikes up to ninety four ninety five what I'm saying about the increase of law cities, that his mechanics, is very much of a fuller and actually keep standing up a bit as it releases. I do wonder. If there is another level to hit if he really does work on the lower half gets out farther, more extension all that kind of stuff to really add another tick, or so. But without not, not in mind, like let's just assume this is what he is. This is great. I mean, I understand that fourteen point five percents striker in the minors because of how well he was positioning, a slider and change of down under Neath zone. And the reason he went five innings yesterday as opposed to maybe six or whatever he had ninety nine pitches believe at the end of his count a bit yet. Right. Because he was going for those chases. He used to in the minors, that guy's going after and they weren't, but there was one there was one absolutely loved that blew my mind. It was against the Paul goals. Make a one to count through tried to paint. Another fastball way had ninety four in the first inning that he the stunned Goldman on try to do it again. Got it up and ninety one Goldschmidt hit super far foul down the line, but it would have been gone if it were, and it wasn't that far fall, we all kind of. It might have been out. And I was watching on mute 'cause I watch live on, and then we watched it after. And I was like, oh, goes just went yard because I just looked real quick. I was writing, I tell only thought he got it. Exactly. So after that it's one to Goldsmith is just so on that fastball. So obviously is going through a slider. Now he throws it under the zone. Goldsmith spits on it. That's done. And then you don't know what really is gonna come is gonna try and go back to the fast born not to other slider at Tutu off the plate Goldschmidt is ready for that says. No. You have to throw a fastball now. Right. This is the typical things that you have to come at him gone doesn't do that. He threw a changeup instead fell into the zone and Goldschmidt, smog over it. And that's all right. And everything I wanna see you love that writing writing prime. Yeah. Three to count. I don't care. I better the inning. I'm going to risk walking him off like this is the stuff we want Bieber to do, right? To not just throw a Hannibal pit now beavers done more of it this year. So I'm being. Drummer little bit a little bit longer than necessary. But like that was that was the beef last year's, yes. Bieber would have thrown a Meatball down handle hundred percent especially last year and gallon. It was so hot. Hick? I made a noise so. So I love that. I love that. He has foundation those two pitches. He's gonna endlessly go and get tons of chases out zone that owes me was going to be super up. I'm sure for gallon. The question does come the what is that fastball actually going to be? He didn't have great fast command yesterday. I couldn't even tell what his fastball approach was. Is it for the most part? I want to say it's just go away from right handers. But I don't like to see that. I wanna see him go in. Go out go up. I believe he could get there. It didn't seem like it's terrible fastball command. No. But that is something that is necessary for him to get to those secondary, pitches, especially if he's really good at putting it under the then great, you need to have some heat to tempt them and get them on their heels early one counts. If you're saving those second islands to be out of the right. Yeah. I just wanted to be high fastballs down a little change, even if it's just going inside and out that would work to just need to see that more. And I look for the next star against the tough. For opponent. Imagine it would be the fills or could he could skip that series. He gets Washington sort him. Yeah. I'm in. Very much a gallon. He's probably going to be my top fifty on Monday speaks, more landscape itself, that the fifties are just terrible. So here's something then what he looking to pay as far as fab goes, if you have a one thousand dollar budget for gallon, obviously, nobody has full one thousand anymore. But let's say that, you know, you're operating with a few hundred bucks. You know, four hundred left, what do you put on gallon? Yeah. That's a good question. So let's go further here. Fuck about that rotation with Miami. Okay. Hi richards. Contra Smith is coming back if I run a rehab. Let's just say he's back because he's already on rehab. So he's closer than. -pez right Lopez. He said, it's mild. It's nice but yeah. Right. Who knows? Shoulder timetable now but let's say Pablo is back. Okay. Let's just. Oh that arenas out for the you're just say that there's one spot left. It has to be gallant, right? Yes. Right. So, so anyone that's worried about that, gallon. Not pitch me. And look he's had ninety one innings. So what he threw one hundred and thirty three last year. Yeah, I have to think that they waited so long because they just wanna be secure that the okay fine gallons for the rest of the year. Yes. That's all I can imagine that if they really wanted to could space here, and there, give him an extra day or two with a Yamamoto or right. But nothing that they'd have to do any and against one hundred thirty three innings and ING onto the back of that with ninety six hundred this year. It's no problem you can make every half season. Plus. So we had in mind. So that might then. All right. I'm paying for him for the rest of the season. I'm in here. Budget wise. I mean obviously depends on how much you want to save and stuff. But I mean, I'm over the hundred dollar limit here for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking, you know, and obviously, your needs of pitching matter too. If you're really pitching focused, and you're waiting for someone to come up. This is one of, you're not going to get much more impact. Here aren't OB these coming off of injury gallant pitching all year. So we don't know if he's necessarily going to be better. Dylan cease, their profiles really that different dune cease. I mean I'm worried about Dylan's cease he hasn't done wells last two starts going to night. It's one of the weird times actually looking at a minor league start as the other one was Alex races two weeks ago when Haluk seven and runs I was really curious has star, you might be he didn't. He was like things dill. I feel like is. I don't know. I feel like this is going to be bad outing tonight. And everyone's going to be selling, author shares of stashing him sorry about that one. I don't think you're out of bounds with that. I mean like you said, he's you mentioned he struggled his last two, particularly to starts ago where he didn't make a full inning and game four runs with three walks the walks have really been a problem of late something he was kind of living with them here, and there, you know, in may he had a few three walk starts nothing crazy. But then they've really amped up for two to three three and two doesn't sound crazy except when it's in two thirds of. Yeah. Again. So I'm not saving my money for him. Yeah. Gallon, gallon. Yeah. And so if you amp up as high as maybe an upper one hundreds, maybe even maybe even something in the low two hundred if you have if you're up over four hundred with your money left, something like that otherwise I'm trying to stay in the one hundred. Yeah, sure. That makes sense. Yeah. I haven't. I have too much money TJ FBI because I am the whole areas and don't do my lamps until Monday morning. And then I miss fab bids and then you miss idiots. Well, get gallon. No. Right. So I'm going to I'm going to spend on gallon. I'm gonna I'm gonna be over the two hundred Mark. I mean, I'm thinking, also, of course like your typical one hundred. Yes, you'd spend twenty one dollars on gallant, right? Yep. That makes sense to me. So I'll probably do something round there. Just two. No. You could have gotten Jordan Alvarez. We'll actually bid I bid I think four hundred thirty dollars on that didn't I didn't get him for eighty got him wild, by the way, it is Jordan, just public service announcement. Yes. Yeah. Pragmatic out. So, so I do have a nickname, by the way for Yamamoto. Let's hear it. It's fair. Jordan. Because he's like decent. He's mediocre. Pair, jordan. I like it. So because all the air Yordan, but Jordan, so yeah, I mean, your sounds cool, but he wanted he wants to be Jordan. And that's Craig issue tweeted that out. And so, yeah, I was calling him you're on your own. But it isn't fact Jordan Alvarez. But anyway, that's a little there. So with that in mind with what we just said about how there's probably only going to be one spot, unless something turns negative for Lopez. What kind of bids? Are you put putting on your Emoto Hernandez, a cursory like single digit bid, if you just want to stash somebody honestly, I mean, consider that neither has to start week. Now, if you're planning that weekly league teach FBI or something like that. Then I don't know if it's really not worth it. There has to be something else. I think you'd stream for instead. We're talking about these guys not being massive impact plays. It's not like you're gonna be kicking rocks because you didn't bid on these guys. So I would save the bids for. For guys that just like that one star. Honestly, I mean, for example, there's Tommy Malone going to the Orioles this week, and it's like that's the kind of start I'd rather go after them bidding on Hernandez, and Yamamoto Yamamoto against against philli. By the way, just it's penciled in. It's not said but wrote a wire already has Caleb Smith. Returning Saturdays or an end is already out next week accord area Yamamoto has one of the Phillies start the Philly home start, but Hernandez is already gone. So. Hernandez is like two dollar stash. If you're just trying to stash pitching and you have to understand you might get nothing from it. The owner I think is like your back more. Yeah. Opens up for him. But I mean it's fine. I'm fine, not just slightly better than Hernandez into starts against the cardinals. They both decimate ARCO. So, so. Okay. I guess that's that's going to wrap us up on the fire side focused on the Miami Marlins. Let me ask you one last thing. I guess with Caleb Smith coming back. Do you expect him to like? Well, what's your second half outlook? Right. We've talked so much about him. Our boy, Alex fast, kind of that was amazing him, calling Mason is forever like highlight of the season. So good. So that's obviously been one of his guys. We know that Caleb. Smith is is good. He has talent. What do you expect in the second half? So what's crazy thing, a lot people? Forget that Smith was hurt in the preseason and they got back. He never stopped. It was never like he needed one start, and then then was great. No, he was great from the very first rehab that he had. So I would that a mind, obviously, that's you know, it's not that great a sample to, to build off. But I don't really think that we're going to see much of a difference from Caleb Smith. Obviously monitor the start of the weekend CV's really offer not. But I mean I see if he's killing in that rehab than I think we're going to be completely fine with them in the second half. Yeah. I really don't see any reason. How do you deal with this phenomenon that I noticed? And it certainly happened with Kayla Smith before he went on the I L. Seems to me that anytime a breakout has the bad start panic sets in more than you know, the stabbing guys. And I remember it was the Washington start three three innings. Five runs for kills me is done. Is he done? Lucas Lido had the bad start. Why like why people freak out so much after one bad start like some, some of these folks have everybody on Vargas rule in the second one bad outing panic? I'm like, dude. It was a bad start. I couldn't care less to be honest. I'm unmoved by how do you feel with that with these fresh breakouts? Do you worry, do you get concerned or only concerned? If I see a difference of approach or execution rights. Really, good example. We're dealing with right now is Andrew Heaney. First three starts killing it with fastballs up, and then curve balls down last to raise. It was okay but he wasn't really executing as well. And then it got worse against that in that sorry guest Jay's. I'm not worried. I do think that he is very talented and still has excellent sinker and going to get with some that curveball down. And his chain of hasn't even really showed up. But it's one of those things that you need to monitor see what's causing this. Is this something that we anticipated in the fact that, like, oh, his slider was over performing before you could say like for, you know? Comes to my like Massin Bumgarner curb last year was way over performing. So and then now we're seeing his crew gone right now, then becomes the to pitch pitcher fastball cutter. And yet, this is what to pitch pitcher like mass Bumgarner does. So that's that narrative makes sense to me. But I just have to take a case by case as something like. Oh, right. He's coming back down to earth with these specific things or no. And if it's not, then okay, maybe it's an injury or everything is fine. Yeah. See, that's the thing too. It's like. I'll, I'll take. Is I? Trade went down, what's gore. Frankie montage suspended eighty game. No for testing positive for a banned substance. What? So I'm seeing this as five o'clock or so we serve recording. I didn't this is. I mean, this is a library action little like. Oh man I was about to give him an aces. Gonna ace label dude. A man. That's come on. I mean that's why he was excessive oil, right? I mean, maybe it helped get consists, of course that can contribute. I'm not. I don't wanna know so far to say that, that never helps I think it's greatly overstated. Right. The way the way people talk about PD's, you would think that you and I could take some NBA in the majors in a week, you know, they act like Barry Bonds was made from them. I'm not saying they never help. A lot of it is keeping you on the field, keeping you healthy allowing you to work out more. And by the way, not everything that's PD is shooting, a needle in your booty in a bathroom stall either. It's not all like anabolics it's pills and stuff that you take. But I'm sure it contributed on some level. It will be seen as the reason he broke out. But this no I look forward to that. I look for that conversation, and it'll be in the offseason excused. So that means. So that means by low two thousand twenty Frankie Pontus. Oh man. So I mean, the discord is going nuts. Everyday products contain Austrian. I don't know how to pronounce soom. It's that he's not. He's not appealing at all. So he's except man. They're in facts products that contain strain, but only legal ones given that is not approved for human use, or consumption of the US or in any other country. There are no legal medications that contain it. There was stuff. He would have appealed, the fact that he doesn't feel tells me this was obvious he knew that he was he knew what he was man. This is. It's an investor day tional selective androgen receptor modulator. You know, those things for the treatment of emissions such as muscle wasting. So I don't know what muscle-wasting is. But I hear the word Muslim thinking, like it's allowing him to work out a lot more. I don't know man. I don't know. I'm shook on this. Sorry we were we're wrapping up. I saw that. We're gonna listened to think I think, in that the audio goes out, because I went dead. Silence. That was so confused. And I just saw your face like that. Yeah. We do. Got talent or whatever that guy. Yes, but so I guess the question that becomes then who? Polices. Montus. Yeah, really does really push Luzardo and puck up faster his Ardo, then they said they wanna stretch him out to ninety pitches. The last one, I remember it was about fifty or so both up and treat them as a right anthem. Right. I mean obviously the as as are only a game back from the wildcard it combined. They did it very quietly because remember, they got to a bad start. The magic over what's even crazier is that the Rangers are a half a game out. And the Indians are full game behind the Red Sox. So, watch out, and the, the funniest thing about all that is the Mariners started like thirteen into the manners. I mean I know I know. So, yeah, they went they went eleven fifteen in April, but then fifteen intended may eleven eight in this is the as I'm talking about so. Yeah. Right now, it's fires. Anderson Anderson, that's Brent and Tanner and then Bassett with modest replacement with a monster that we used to joke in the preseason who is the as, as whenever Luzardo shows up right now. That would still apply. I guess, but, yeah, that's a really good point that, you know as well as our. They're fighting for that wild card right now. And they will consider pro Arte plus puck. I mean, that's how it was in the in the rehab Star Wars actor Josh just treat them in the short term. It'll be Daniel Magnin until they figure that out or. Oh, yeah. On the forty get next week would montage have gone because I bet rushed way he would have gotten. Cardinals. The best team the face in the universe so mainland against the cardinals. Look, I would would you go with didn't against the cardinals. Then I then Yamamoto against the Phillies. Give you do. Right. That kind of seems like he could coast in that start picking on the cards forever right now. So, so that that's that's essential getting at before is they can't just go with some other decent stream instead of by me. All right. We don't have maybe actually is conformable. We don't know what's going on. But by the way, I briefly mentioned tan Ray Anderson. He gets the cardinals as well. I don't know a whole lot about him. I did see him at fall league. We were calling him Sanderson because it was set on the back of his jersey. 'cause they put the tea so tender sin is not like a major prospect, but he is going against the cardinals. So he might eight next week. But yes, stay tuned for that. That is going to wrap it up. But this bomb shop, we ended up with a bomb shell man, Frankie bunny joke. Man, we were we were loving. No. He's so much that year rankings. And he he was ready to take another big jump in mine. After after what he ate huge drink outs in three games last three games twenty eight. Breakouts. Austrian get you strikeouts. Dude. I'm gonna takes tonight before plan will be the show just a splitter, though. Gotta get that. Splitting going? All right. I hope you have a great weekend U2. up the sad, Montas news and kids. Don't take PD's spore. It's always fun, hang with you by the fire. Thanks for listening, today's fireside chat with Paul spore, and Nick Pollock follow both Paul and Nick on Twitter at spore in pitcher list.

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Podcast (5/29/20)

Boomer & Gio

2:26:57 hr | 4 months ago

Podcast (5/29/20)

"Good morning boomer. Happy Friday how are you good Morning Jail? You happy Friday the YOU AL and Jerry and everybody out there and you know we do have a villain no. I don't. I don't care what you say. The Major League Baseball Players Association versus Major League Baseball Owners and that villain is probably the right guy to be the villain. He should be the one that should be talking because of the amount of players that he represents the things that he says the things that he brings to the table on behalf of the players case and that is Scott. Boras so I know fans out. There aren't big fans of agents and I get it Scott. Boris is a guy likes to poach clients from other people. Much like drew. Rosenhaus does that in the NFL but he makes a lot of salient points financially. He obviously has a lotto lose here because he does get a portion of the players contracts. I know that guys like Trevor Power. Want him out of the mix but if I were Trevor Bauer. I were a player and I wanted somebody to advocate for me. I would want it to be somebody like Boris. Who doesn't really give a crap what you me or anybody else thinks about him. All he cares about is whether or not the players are getting their fair share and whether or not the players are going to be protected so he is now our villain he is the guy that is going to be the face of the players and he is the guy that's going to lay out an argument for the fans so the fans understand where the players are coming from. However saying all of that you know we as fans and we as a talk show host can read all the arguments we can see all the situations going on out there. We UNDERSTAND THAT MINOR. Leaguers are starting to get released pretty regularly all across the minor league system right now that there will most likely the. I don't see how they can have any minor league baseball this year. Which is GONNA kill hundreds of cities across this country because of the argument and the arguments that are going on at the top of the food chain. So this thing right now is is toxic it is. It's a hot mess. I still think that the owners hold out longer than the players and I also think that the players losing year of salary is something that they'll never get back so and that's and that's the thing that ultimately I do believe that the players will end up pointing in some way shape or form and then both sides will spin it so the players don't look so bad if they wanNA play. If they play the players will end up probably getting a little bit more money back not much more money than what's being offered right now and unfortunately now you have to think about how this really does sour. The new CBA that they will be getting ready to negotiate starting next year you know they have. I guess they had started some preliminary talks but all that stuff has been shelved. Because they're trying to go through everything now and trying to figure out how much the players are going to give up. I mean essentially. They've got to agree on to C. B. As in two separate years they've got to agree on this the rest of this season and how it goes and they got agree on a new one going forward in the future and there's no doubt that right now these two sides are just they don't like one another. I mean it's it's become personal and it's become personal within current players. It's also become personal with four players in current players publicly is. We're seeing that now on twitter. Every single faction has been fighting one another on social media and a lot of it has to do with Trevor Bauer as Trevor Bauer Tile Loesch. Who a former retire retired pitcher go back and forth and then that even became personal as Kyle. Oh she was saying that all the reasons that you don't like Scott. Boris because your agent who you date is someone who doesn't like him or whatever go it's just it's just insanity it's insanity how angry people have gotten with this and I understand why but it just plays out publicly. We are all consuming this every single day even got an okay boomer from Trevor Bauer to Kyle Loesch. Because Kyle lohse said US retired players are looking at you guys and worrying that you're going to ruin everything that we built. I mean that's what it has gotten come down to here with the player in player infighting and even retired player and current player fighting. Hey Mark Shera was was hammered. A couple of weeks ago and he came out and said what he said now he is kind of moved off a little bit of that stance kind of talking about. He doesn't want the owners to break the Union and all that other stuff. 'cause I don't know if he was listening to us. Or because we were talking about dividing and conquering. And that's exactly what the owners are trying to do. Here take the lesser known players. The lower paid players. Make them more whole as compared to the Mike. Trout's and the Bryce Harper's of the world so that's part of the negotiating ploy for sure but the one thing I will say and and again I go back to what I was talking about when I was an NFL PA Rep. It's kind of like the opposite. What's happening here? The owners back in one thousand nine hundred seventy one to the higher profile players suppliers that we're making a little bit more money not a lot of money because remember. There's only a couple of US making over a million dollars in nineteen eighty-seven per year per season and a couple of those guys ended up going back in crossing the picket line and it really was hard to keep your team together and make them believe that staying out was going to have a profound effect on US moving forward. I think it has. I think it took a while for us to get there and I still think that there's more room to grow for the NFL PA but at the end of the day when you have players fighting with each other and in our case we had players crossing the picket line and names like Montana and Lawrence. Taylor you know you have your lower end guys. They're going back to get their money and they're making more money than I am. And what the Hell am I doing sitting here trying to make it better for everybody one? You know in fact I see. I can't do that. So the the owners here are trying to do at the other way. They're trying to tell the rank and file much like the NFL owners have come to learn. Tell the rank and file. This is what you're going to get. Most of the rank and file players aren't even engaged in any of these contract negotiations or even understand what the hell is going to happen to them in the future when they finally do decide to retire. But but I think Major League Baseball Players Association is always been the strongest always remained the strongest and I think advocate right now for them anyway is is Scott Bores Yan. Make a very very good points. Yeah that's right now. If Scott bores is going to be the advocate for the players throughout this then a deal will not get done. I need to know who that voices for the players. That's not the extreme because Scott. Boris is the extreme Scott. Boris we're are not going to take a penny less than that other agreement. He's been like that entire career and that's why it's turned a lot of people off but that's why the best players highest paid players flocked to him because he knows or they know that he's going to get every sent out of that contract and he's going to do that W- by any means necessary but is there another person of influence that a majority of the players will listen to that? Maybe aren't those top Scott. Boras clients that will say we have to play. This may do irreparable damage to our reputations. Going forward this would be the worst thing forest. This is important that we have to come up with a deal yet as it sock. Yes of course it does. I don't want to give everything to the owners. We have to find a little bit more of a middle ground. But we can't listen to Scott. Boris and say they were only playing for the prorated salaries. We have to figure this out. Because it's more important than just our own personal financial situations for a single year. We've got to get back on the field for big reasons. Yeah you know. There's a term that the Union Scott. Boris and a lot of the players are being are talking. About and that term is non baseball revenue. You know and what falls under that category. And how much money exactly is that. And that's what the players are trying to pierce. That's what the players are trying to figure out. You know. I think in the Court of Public Opinion. The players most likely are probably losing the battle but when what slow do another poll today. Why not we do because I know what the owners don't. The owners are saying you know. Hey might trout or Garrett Cole for instance you know you think you're going to be making eighteen million dollars. That's what he's thinking he's thinking that we made a deal in March and if we come back and play an eighty two game season I am going to make half of my salary. I'm to make eighteen million dollars when in reality with the owners are asking him to do is to take another pay cut from that eighteen million dollars to cover that eighty two game season down to nine million dollars and then the argument publicly becomes. You WanNa make nine million dollars a year or do you WanNa make nothing you know. And how can you under these financial circumstances for many of Americans who are out of work and on public assistance? How can you turn down nine million a year so that that is the argument? That is the argument. That is being phased out there. By the by the ownership and in the meantime ownership is also furloughing major leaguers or cutting major leaguers their furloughing employees at different levels of their their organizations. And all of this other stuff is going out in. The players are looking like the bad guys. Yeah I wonder how much of the mets fan that would vote in. Our poll would be influenced by the fact that they can't stand the wilpon and believe they are the cheapest people on the planet right like so to have a mets fan side with owners ever is something that is rare but they may look at. Yeah they may look at this like well. We know how cheap our ownership group is and we know how cheap I look at the as and look at teams like the pirates and these people in nickel and diamond these players and I'm never going to side with them and the players should get would they. There could be some of that so I agree with you that most of the stuff that I've heard because our audiences a very blue collar audience that does not want to hear it from the major league baseball players who are getting their if thirty million dollars cut down to seven or eight million dollars just doesn't make sense to them. I do think there's a faction of people out there that are are looking at the owners like here. We go again with you guys. This is unbelievable. The money you rake in. You're keeping it all for yourself. I mean this is pathetic. They're all going to be some of those people and it might even be close to a majority so I'm very curious to see what the what the poll says the other argument from Scott. Boris is that the last three years have been or maybe four or five years even have been record-setting in terms of the amount of money that each of these teams has made and he is saying that you know look man. You guys didn't come to us and say hey here's more money for you because of the popularity of the sport and the amount of money that you've made you basically kept for yourselves above and beyond whatever our agreement is so now now you come to us only in in the midst of a pandemic and because you know you're losing happier season that you want us to share that burden in other words we didn't share the benefits of the popularity of the sport as as much as we would have liked especially a couple years ago if you remember when free agency basically stalled and they had to put a free agency camp together because players weren't able to garner any of the contracts that they. Volvo come their way well certain players in certain age groups were heels that they used to get and the reason for that is because of the analytics dudes from Mit Yale and Harvard. That basically taking over front offices of these teams. Yeah but I didn't necessarily disagree with some of these older players. Getting these massive deals just wasn't working out. I mean it wasn't so much like the analytics of baseball. A lot of it was looking at some of these contracts that were getting handed out and saying this just isn't worth it for teams. There were so many examples of guys who were under performing once. They signed a big deal after whatever age was determined. You know in the early thirties so I. I didn't think that was the worst thing. Ever that teams were doing that. I mean it was smarter business. I mean how many times did we sit around and talk about how we didn't want to bring in with any team? Whether it's the knicks or the Rangers aging superstars and sign him to some ridiculous know. Five six seven year deal. I mean taking on the robby canot deal was like punching a gut. I hated that thing. And that wasn't the mets. Didn't even need the pay by half of what that was from the beginning but just the tail end of it was just horrible contract. Contracts like that should not be handed out any longer. Well I I agree. But that's also at the the base of all of this stuff because things have started to change and a lot of that has to do with analytics. I believe but when you take a look at the Yankee payroll for instance the top. I think it's probably ten guys starting with Brett Gardner. He makes ten million dollars this coming season. Dj Lemay you. Twelve million James Paxson. Twelve five million. Zach Britton thirteen million j a happ seventeen million or all this chapman seventeen point two million Masahiro Tanaka Twenty three million stanton twenty six million and then Garrett Cole thirty six million all of those guys are being asked to take significant significant pay cuts and then you know basically. They are being pitted against their teammates. Chad Green Lewis Sesa Jordan Montgomery Jonathan Holder Glacier Torres Luke voight Miguel Andrew Hore Mike Tuchman Tyler Wade Jonathan Louisa Mike Ford in Kyle the mind you could do it without my help. Higgins hit yes yoga whatever. Not if it's yoga right and then of course you have Severino Hicks. Who are both on a injured reserve? So so if you take a look at the Yankees payroll you see. There are a lot of guys on this team that make less than a million dollars and these are the guys that basically the owners are trying to say. Hey we're gonNA make you guys mostly whole but we're gonNA screw your teammates and I would say that if I were the Jordan. Montgomery's of the world the Miguel and horrors of the world. Who I think is a great baseball player. The Labor Torres is a great baseball player. I would say you know what I'm with the Union. I'm with the guys that are making the big money because one day my hopes and dreams are to be that guy making that. Kinda money I will not. This would just be me talking about being a part of this team. I would not against my teammates. That are making the big money because one day. I hope to be one of those guys but this is where I think this is mixing too much what the future is and what the president is. I mean it seems like the players feel like if they give in now to this pandemic season proposal that all of a sudden in the future everything that they want is going to be ripped away from them and I don't see the evidence of that. I don't think this is one of those. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube things with the players. I mean I understand that negotiations when you go into it with a personal anger towards the other side. Don't normally go well in the beginning. And that's something they're going to have deal with with the new. Cba But why is it that the players feel like if they negotiate here and give the owners what they want that the next time around when we're talking about a totally different world than what we're living in right now that that next CBA is also going to get stuff taken away from them well? I don't know that that's always. That's always the thought in the back of the mind of the players association's that things are going to be taken away from us in some way shape or form and it may not be as clear as we think it is but when we finally get the thing signed and put it in place now. All of a sudden things are missing. But you know what's interesting about all of this so I I gave you those contract numbers for a number of these players and and starting with Brett Gardner I would. I would like to think that all of those players have had great relationships with the owner that they play for the Yankees the Steinbrenner family because they are all getting paid extremely well. So if you're if you're I don't know Tanaka. Let's say you're Tanaka you've been here since the beginning of your career when you came over from Japan. Are you upset with Yankee ownership? Have they not done right by you? Yeah there's no way I can't see him being upset but the point like it's a weird deal you have guys like I'm sure Garrett Cole when he signed his thirty six million dollars a year contract. I'm sure he was excited as hell think about putting on the Yankee uniform and I'm sure that law and Randy everybody over. There rolled out the red carpet for him. It's going to be great. You're going to be a Yankee. You're going to be the guy that we need to take us to the next level. Bob La all of that stuff and you know damn well. He's not upset with the Yankees tonight. Those guys that I feel like if he would go out there and play for zero dollars like he's Musi or it's the guy that would play for the honor of the game like I'll go out there. I don't eat anything I'm just GONNA go out there and pitch like that. That would be his his personality. But there's a lot of guys who do not think that way and there's also a lot of players who don't love their ownership group right. Well this was the big thing back in eighty seven Rosca Cincinnati happened to be one of the cheaper teams and we had bones practice facilities. You know it was hard to get an extra t shirt for practice. Believe it or not you. Could we ask for Jersey so it can give it to a charity? No I mean things like that. Were just like impossible to come by. Meanwhile you're playing for eighty two barlow out in San Francisco and he's handing you know envelopes of cash after Games. I I mean who wouldn't love to go play for that guy or you know in today's world play for Jerry Jones. Seems like he's got more ex cowboys on on the payroll. Then he does actual cowboys. Oh that's the dream. Isn't that the dream like to be a guy who has success for an organization like that and especially like wins the championship and not only. Are you a beloved by the owners forever and you're welcome back and you can go to the box and whatever it is but then on top of that wherever you go in that city. You are a hero. I mean that is. Those guys are getting appearances. Like twenty five to fifty thousand dollars in appearance. Show up during the football season. Then don't implant anymore. Like former former cowboys former packers former steelers like places like that. I think well because you're Just a hero in those city. You can be in since I you know I. Don't you know the Rooney's honestly the Rooney's run their team? Much like the Pinger until they're same thing same thing same time. Same types of owners. Yeah I would say the spendthrift owners or the guys like Jerry. Jones is one of those high profile guys you know there's not a lot of them in the NFL. There's more of them in some other sports. But even Bob Kraft. Watch what he spends because Bill Belichick tells them what to spend right. You know he may be. He may be a high profile guy but he's not overspending for people and you see them running out there. Giving seven year deals for four hundred million dollars well also but Jerry Jones also spends on stuff that is encapsulated right like he's going to have the Best Stadium and the best practice facility and the best this and the best that the yacht in whatever. So that's that's where he likes to spend as well so it doesn't necessarily affect the cap but these spent a lot on the team that is affecting the cap as well but he he is invested in the cowboy brand. Yes like the Steinbrenner family has invested in the Yankee brand. That's why the Cavalry. Janke came together and they and they formed a basically management or stadium management company together so it makes total sense because you're investing in two of the most iconic neighborhood in all of sports in the world and you're making so much money away from the game that the players cannot pierce settled down a little bit because of the popularity and they're smart. That's the way I would do it. I mean if I were on that side and I had the Yankee brand I had the cowboy brand held. Damn you damn straight out there. Selling like crazy person. We'd be trying to be doing it in every different way that I didn't have to share it with the players if I worked for one of those teams. I would wear something with their logo on it every single day. Like I'd have like the Polo with the logo on it. I'd be walking around with the actual the actual football pants of the cowboys. If I worked in one of those teams and had to look beyond a brand ambassador from one of the I would just constantly be wearing the stuff. I'd be aware ten gallon hat. I'd be wearing spurs if I work for the cowboys. Kinda like Jerry. Recco DOES DURING THE FOOTBALL SEASON. He gets away from it a little bit during the football season you know. He tends to wear it a lot. Yeah I always love that man for that. Short amount of time. That worked with Pitt. Football all the stuff that you would get with Jerry Rutgers. He knows now he just like in Colombia. Like you just stuff like for some reason when you get it from the team like it's even more special than buying it on your own me some Laura whole op talking about. Never take it off every day. I had some that. I still have some of it. It's like almost ten years ago now and you guys think that the athletes have this mindset. If it's free it's me. I think the norps of the world are even worse when it comes to that. Yeah I used to getting stuff. Yeah no you're probably right like Jerry. I see he's got so many great rutgers things like he just wears them in a rotation and it's like you put that thing on somebody from rutgers gave you the same because you work for them you like you wear it with a sense of pride that you wouldn't wear a normal shirt it. It's also the fact that it's quality stuff Columbia was under armor. Rutgers is now adidas it and boomer assize and foundation is under armour. It is great great clothes and since more than that and plus European the organization. Why Not Right? He big walk in commercial. Yeah the closest I've gotten since leaving Pitt. Football is the BOOMER ESIASON FOUNDATION. Stuff like when that stuff comes sort of similar like when I get the especially the things for like the the running stuff off the bike debris the you cannot fail all of those different programs that we have you know. The amazing thing is just how much stuff that we get from. Wfan it's just it's unbelievable so much stuff brand ambassadors like us. Boy I'll tell you what the free stuff comes. Our Way is unbelievable man. Oh Man I'm out wanted to the F. in store over there JFK. They had no idea who I was. Well what do you want? What are you doing? I don't know. Is there anything in there with my picture on it now? I'll see you later. That's just a that's just a bunch of crappy. Mets Yankees jets giants shirts that are hanging in there has not the Ford store but they're using wfan as the monikers modell's or something is it. Is the radio station at least get cash that I don't know what the radio station one of the that's one of the weirdest deals of all time the wfan store in the jetblue terminal of JFK as one of the strangest things on earth? It's off a flight from south. Africa is always looking for the inside the F. A. N. store. There's nothing fan. Nope I mean it's like that is like what? What can we drill down? Can somebody drill down and find out exactly? What type of deal that is. Will you know it happened before? Entercom ON US. It was before that so that deal probably expired and no one's even looking into it just always going to be the FAA store and he's making anything off right somebody that has to be a licensing deal doesn't it doesn't a name have to be a licensing deal of look into that. I mean if you think about how little money is spent on promotion like there's no more advertisements on TV. There's no more billboards anymore. There's nothing on a boss like there's just no the only thing we have is our softball team. Basically yes and we did that and I buy the uniforms and put like to think that the one thing that fan does to promote the brand is have a snore. And you quit the team. Oh here we go. I mean I was trying to promote the team but you said I don't want to play anymore. Yeah I could see the dead horse behind you then you starting to be right next to your box of tissues so yeah the the yeah the but the one thing that they decided on was jetblue terminal the one thing bizarre and you cited. I don't know I don't know who can we. Can we find out? Is there any way that we can find out? Who RUNS THAT STORE? What that stores about. Why that store even exists. Anybody even no. I don't think so Michael Jordan type documentary on this thirty thirty thirty. Yeah and by the way speaking of that did you see we're Clyde Drexler now? Says he hates Michael Jordan that he saw last dance. Yeah I didn't see what context that was in though I don't know if we like laugh through it like Oh that Michael Jordan at the tough competitor I couldn't stand that guy or he really hates his guts. I just I think he was talking about the Michael Jordan. That was actually sitting in the seat. Not the Michael Jordan was playing the Michael Jordan that was actually being interviewed throughout the last stand on the IPAD. Mocking people yes. Yeah let's just keep talking. Why don't we just keep it? It's almost six thirty. Let's just take this right to seven o'clock and screw everything up. Hey Eddie if we just talk all the way till nine. Can we take the nine o'clock hour except possible replay? It like some other people do around here. You probably actually You could. I don't know how that would go over. Probably not well. You might have an hour's worth alive library so you'd be sitting there anyway. Yeah that's a good point and think about it. Could be a new gimmick for us in our of commercials from nine to ten straight commercials all right boomer and Geo on the fan. Cbs SPORTS NETWORK AND RADIO DOT COM. The morning show with boomer. Esiason Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo and he was telling me that the starbucks right next to our office that we haven't seen in many months is open and they do everything in the doorway. So you really go into starbucks. Would you walk up to the Doorway? Which is propped open. There's a table there and then you ask for the order and I guess the Barista runs back there or yells at to another person. You do all your transactions up there so I never thought that that starbucks would have been open quite honestly especially with the fact that I don't know how many people are going to work in that area right now but that's good news for them. It was It was closed. You know as soon as it happened and it just it was about. I think it was two weeks ago or maybe late early last week. and the this area gets a little more traffic because of the pharmacy. You know so. It gets a little bit more than the other areas around here. Well it's good to know that when we're back in November that that starbucks will be so that so that is so that is part of phase one starbucks opening. I don't think so because I think it's considered takeout. So they're allowed to do that if people come up and don't dining so I don't believe that it's phase one thing. I just think it's the thing that you're allowed. Did they could have been opened the whole time by. I think you know Kinda Deta Reserve Central. They have food so right and restaurant. They could've stayed open and just two deliveries. Only I guess doing now right or pick up and I tell you I missed that little cinnamon sucker. She's I went through a little bit of withdrawal with that. I had to shakes the first week or two not Avid Art Jerry. With the update. What's happened Jerry? All right guys. So we've got. The Players Association expected to offer the COUNTER PROPOSAL TO OWNERS TODAY. Asking for a was our money to report. Well a hundred game season not eighty or eighty two and they want their full prorated salaries. We will see if that happens boomer. You've been asking the question in terms of the older gentlemen. The managers the coaches the hires. We'll Ron Gardenhire is not a younger man. He was on. Mlb Radio yesterday and he says he's all good coming back. Jimmy walkie talkie and I'll just go on with here. I don't care as long as you do this thing safe you know. I'm sixty two years old. I've had cancer and blood sugar stuff. So I'm right and I don't want to be prime so we'll have to just take it easy and let the smarter. People Prevail here and then all do what they ask as best I boss again but planning on being back if it's a big if right now if the Games comeback when we're talking about the precautions that sixty seven pages of measures and then protocols for health and Safety Garden Guard says a lot of thought obviously went into it. Believe me they're doing everything possible and they're gonna do everything possible and they they know the number one you know people the top tier people who really have to be taken care of in guarded because our age. A lot of the managers and coaches and they. They've done it just the super job of letting US know that they're gonna do everything they possibly can't right. There are no guarantees. That do everything they possibly get to make it right for answering that question a little bit to what you've been talking about now for weeks and months if not also did you see the Trevor Bauer. Kyle Loesch battle twitter now. I mentioned it in the open. It's a good one it's ugly. It's juicy wanted. It turned personal and I was. I was with Kyle Loesch until it turn personal and I didn't like that. That was an agent right. Yeah the agent girlfriend thing. He was alleging the reason why. Trevor Bauer doesn't like Scott. Boris is because Trevor Bowers. Dating his int- who I guess I don't know doesn't like Scott Boris. I didn't I didn't like that part of it. You're Scott Boris. Either if you're an agent because he's out there trying to poach clients left and right but I mean I. I also wouldn't alleged that a player that I was fighting with on twitter was in a relationship with his agent. If I didn't know it was a fact I mean it just seemed like they cry. He crossed the line with you. WanNa talk about the issue. That's fine but if you're now talking about the motivation behind trevor bowers thoughts being because he's in a relationship with an age in which he doesn't even know what is true and trevor. Bauer denied that relationship. That's when it got really really sticky. That was that was too much for me at that point. Not good hundreds of minor league players released on Thursday. Now I you a lot of players would be cut anyway at the end of spring training. I would believe but this seems like it was accessible because it was all in one shot. The brewers the nationals the mariners the mets all releasing several players. There was a former. We was a second round draft. Pick the metro they scathing. I read that of his time. Yeah this was I forget his name. Andrew Church. That was yes. Yeah that was a brutal right up of his time with the Beckham's Asian. So so we're all going to have issues right so there are times where. I think about my time with the jets and and how everything went down and how inconsistent leadership was and how a revolving door when he came the coaches and players and everything else. It's almost impossible to have any sort of success under those conditions. You know my my and I always think back from my perspective. That's what I saw and so that's what I say so but that's just me. That may not be the way other people have seen it and this kid this kid church like a pretty good dude and sounds like he wants to play but obviously got hurt and is upset and probably thinks and believes that he should have been up the big club at some point and never got there so now he's got an ax to grind and he also takes a shot a big shot at Tim. Tebow well. He takes a shot at the mets employing. Tim t-ball he wasn't anything personal with Tim. Tebow we had on our team. Right like basically. That's a shot at Tim. Tebow no well no what he was. He didn't say anything about I. Don't know if even said he couldn't play basically. He hated the fact that they brought in a celebrity to sell more tickets than in merchandise. Or whatever then actually paying attention to the players that were busting their ass to try to get the big Tim. Tebow numbers were the worst in the league and he basically took shot him. So we got a celebrity. You can't play yeah. I don't I didn't read that way. When I read it was he was tearing up the Organization for Having Tim. Tebow there so to me. This was all about ripping I know. But that's not that's not ripping. Tim Tebow I just saw it differently. Like this organization brought this guy in should have never brought this guy in. There are other people who deserved his spot and because he went on and on and on talking about how much you organization screwed up and that that to me was more not like he might have liked him personally but he didn't agree that he should have been there. Tim Tebow didn't put himself on the mets. The mets put himself put him. T-ball one along with it. I mean what are you doing? Are you sleeping with your agent? Now what we're arguing. Just go right third. No no no no I just had the right facts about it and you did not so I was pointing it out. It wasn't an argument. I think he took a shot. I think he took a shot at Tim. Tebow yes no Tibo blows. We can leave it there. Texas Governor Greg Abbott announcing Thursday outdoor stadiums in Texas can have fans up to twenty five percent of capacity no fans in arenas though not yet so that at least is positive. If you're Texas Rangers fan or an Astros Solo. What is what is Dallas Cowboy? They're going to have the roof open. Then right you're going to have to yeah. Of course he can't so that's a retractable roof. Dome Right Yeah. But the whole thing doesn't open it's like a big square hole. That's my question. Never opens. Well it's he's got have to have it open under these circumstances right but what happens? September is now I would think more along the lines of. Let's get to August before you make that decision. Did you see to boomer the report on? How much money the cowboys make in stadium during a season? Yes yes three. Four hundred million dollars is crazy and so much more than any other team was pretty nuts and pay. Dak Prescott can pay him. It's cap problems is why they can't pay them but so be it. I was going to say do the numbers that they're talking about for. Patrick mahomes eighty three million dollars a year. They're talking about trying to get it up to forty million but the problem is the way that the contracts are written in the NFL. So basically what this comes down to is A. It's an extension of what he has left on his rookie deal and his rookie deal. He makes like two point four million this year and then it goes up to like twenty three million next year. So so it'll be like you know. Twenty four twenty five million dollars over the next two years and then you sign the extension after that. But he should be able to get some money up front and they'll be able to keep the money below. Maybe maybe maybe below thirty five million per because of these two years speaking of the money the NFL an EA. Sports agreed to a six year extension for one point six billion dollars us for the Madden Line. How are you doing John? Madden for your fifty thousand dollar buyout. Good God unbelievable. So Yeah you've got that JOE FLACCO new jets backup quarterback. Did Talk to the media. Just give you a couple way. Late on time here The direct question. Why signed with the jets now as opposed to wait for training camp and see if something opens up say July or August that kind of thought process I was back and forth on for a while but ultimately I think it's important to get on a team. Get comfortable with with the guys on the team and get comfortable at stand in this in. This situation could come through with the offense that you know. I'M GONNA at some point. Be Running in some capacity in some capacity so there you have it from Joe Flacco just quickly. You got the basketball hall of fame. Enshrinement has been postponed to next year. That's Kobe Tim. Duncan Kevin Garnett The University of Utah where they plan for football and false sports. They unveiled that yesterday. I see Iona. College is going to have students on campus starting August. So that's a good thing because the whole thing with Football on false sports is. I guess they want students. On campus the premier league in England will restart June seventeenth and the PGA tour did cancel the John Deere. Classic set to be played in July for logistical reasons. Not exactly sure why but that has been taken off the schedule. It's going to be amazing. Is that Michigan's President. Basically came out and said you know we're not gonNA play football. We don't have kids on campus and obviously Michigan's governor has been very proactive in shutting things. Down and cancelling things and and being very careful however you WANNA look. I'm not trying to get into the politics I'm just trying to get into. If in fact Michigan's president feels that way how and then other big ten schools are going allow kids to come back on campus and they are going to play Michigan. Football's just null and void while everybody else in the big ten is plan because it sounds like the you know everybody in Iowa's playing James Franklin said you're not going to penalize ten percent of the League of ninety percent can play right. It's amazing about that. The potential for that. I don't think that's going to happen. I'm starting to hear. More and more. That colleges are trying to figure out how to get their kids back on campus because they need them back on campus financially Yup room and board and all the things that go on in college campuses and main streets in college campuses. That need the students back on campus. Otherwise you'RE GONNA see we've started to see already. Some colleges canceling certain sports and no longer providing them. So that's down the road to something doesn't give and Chase Elliott. Did Win last night at Charlotte there. You go all right. Thank you Jerry. We'll talk to you next hour each the morning show with boomer Esiason and Greg boomer and Geo just to go back and explain to listeners. Maybe did not read that whole deal from Andrew Church. What we were a bickering about earlier. This is what Andrew Church former mets minor leaguer. Who was released yesterday along? With many many minor leaguers had to say about the mets organization. There was a lot of stuff that he put in there about. How you know. He was flown into certain games. He didn't warm up. Got Thrown into a game ended up tearing his. Ucla said he couldn't pitch. They forced him to pitch all these really horrible things. He did say at the end that he thought the new regime. The Brodie van wagon regime was trying to do things the right way but the culture was so bad that he didn't believe they were going to have success in doing that. But it seemed a little bit better since brody came in. But here's the part about Tim. Tebow and this is why I think it was just another knock on the organization. He said then the next year they made a mockery of our team by putting a celebrity on it to sell more tickets. I saw players lose their jobs because of it. We weren't playing to win. We're playing to make everyone else money. So that's why felt like it was just another thing like they put a celebrity on the team and we weren't trying to win and it just was one of the many knocks that he had with the organization and also says thank you to all the players and coaches who had the passion drive to empower each other pushed the game. Ford F you to everyone who wasn't Guy Tibo no Joe. Interestingly in that same article you know there's a description of Tim. Tebow who goes on saying he was arguably the worst overall player in the miners as he hit one. Sixty three with a four nine five. Oh yes over. Seventy seven games but the this Andrew Church never said that no. He didn't say that but but it goes to the point. Basically what the writer is doing now is taking Andrew Churches Celebrity comments and validating them by now putting the statistics of Tim. Tebow out in front of the reader rant and then he also goes on to say Tim. Tebow remained with the mets even getting an invitation to Spring Training ahead of the twenty twenty season. Yeah Yeah you. Brody was a part of all that too by the way. Oh of course I understand without a doubt he was but I think that this Andrew Church he was at least saying that things got a little bit better when when brody came in but I mean it sounds horrible now. I don't. I'm sure there's someone in the mets minor league system has had a great experience with it. That could even be on the big league club right now. Like Jeff McNeil Pita Lonzo or one of these guys who and and they would say great things and we would listen to them and we can't take everything that Andrew Church says as Gospel because this is also a guy who extremely bitter because he was released but I do. I do think that there. I mean you have to listen to what he has to say do but you also have to take it with a grain of salt realizing that he's a disgruntled ex employee. I mean I get it. There's a lot of truth in what he says. There's some ugliness in there which makes it kind of you know good for all the people that can't stand way. The mets run their team. And all that other stuff. Hey let me ask you this about the mets. They're going to if they do play baseball this year. And it's going to be a shortened season. This could be a lot of pressure on pitchers and everything else and So you think you probably add a few extra pitchers you gotTa have a twenty man. Taxi Squad you'RE GONNA have a thirty man roster. You'RE GONNA ask me if Tim Tebow is going to be on the major league. Nope NOT GONNA ask you that but I am going to ask you because I know this has happened. Okay would you take a flyer on Matt Harvey No no? That's would you take a flyer on Bartolo Cologne? I bring? I bring them in to see how he looked and see how much velocity still had I would. I would take a look at him. I wouldn't totally reasons. Five hundred thousand. Whatever the veteran minimum is now. It's different man with him. You know that and it's not it's not even so much baseball related the reason why it's different with him is because first of all he would never. I don't think he'd want to come back. I just don't believe he does. No he does man. You know the memories that Matt Harvey left with or different than what par Tola Cologne left like. He Bartolo Colon just like still beloved. Their warned be high expectations. You know he's just Roly roly-poly old guy who can still get it done like it's sort of funny it with Matt Harvey. It's like it's just too much. I'm not saying that healing Matt Harvey that's GonNa Pitch Seventeen innings for you. But now my answer is no no all right. I didn't think it would all end differently somehow less ignominiously. Nope sorry not going to happen. Well I know he wants back in real and I know that he does Netzer with anybody. Well first of all I mean with anybody but I think that he would like to retry it with the mets. Yeah I mean Bartolo. Cologne came out flat out. Instead that I wanNA come back with the mets and Matt GonNa be celebrated that way you know when big sexy says it. Everybody loves it. Everybody gets all hot and bothered by it. But nobody's running to go. Asmat Harvey about playing for the mets. How he wants to restart his career with the mets. And Look. I'm just telling you do you take a flyer on a guy that you know. No no okay. All right I don't would you? I don't know the Matt Harvey Today that we knew six or seven years ago. You know I don't I don't you know he can't pitch anymore. You know that. And plus I don't know what the hell was going on with him and What was it the angels of the Rangers it was the angels the angels and they and they lost the pitcher to an overdose that is true and he was on that team. He was in the midst of all of that. I don't know what he was doing. I don't know if you had any impact on that. Or any of that. Had impact on him. Maybe it did. Maybe it had a positive impact on him. Maybe he's on a rebound from something. I don't know so don't do you believe in second chances. Sure I'm not saying he can't go and play anywhere else. I of course I do but I I just don't think if I were the mets I would say no. You're would get an opportunity here. It's just we gotta move on. There's just too much emotion attached to that going and chase your dream. I just it's not going to be here. I mean there was also I mean he was the lead dog there for a while. You know right and and it just to bring him. It's DEGROM staff now. No is not there. The team is moved on. It just feels like going backwards for a guy who's not worth it so by giving them a twenty million dollars go out there and be our second type deal you could be you know a spot fifth starter or some sort of long reliever or something like that. And why why? Why is Jerry Changing shirts? Every segment is true. That is third shirt of the morning. But you are the easy wearing the shirts or is he changing them. He's not hearing us. He's not listening. Tussey cutting tape right now. The real question is. Will he be washing each of those shirts? My guess is yes. Jerry's like clean frequent comes to laundry and clothing like he wears that for one segment. I think that's gone right in the wash. He actually could be taking a shower right now. Now we see him I just I don't get it if he if he has that shirt on for like five minutes. You're telling me he's going to wash it afterward. Oh that's one of our shirts. Live your list. You go get more. We did talk about. We did talk. Both about rutgers and Esiason Foundation's stuff so he decided to put those things on. We started with the Nike Sweatshirt. Then he had a rutgers t shirt and now he has your Live your list. Bef T shirt. Yeah look at that. And I'm sure he's got a different t shirt for every segment if he chose to do that. And if he did that'd be That'd be very impressive. It'd be a lot of laundry to do for Jerry. Recco all right. It's the morning show with boomer. Esiason GREGG GIANNOTTI BOOMER and O. Who wins the race as to the first pro sports team back? Who is the one that starts the season up? I we know it's not gonna be the NFL better not be the of the Rangers. No but the yeah the sports league I guess I should have said so hot in the NHL NHL is GonNa do it. I think the NHL now watched Gary Bettman give another interview yesterday nationally and he was really nervous talking about the nineteen twenty Stanley Cup. When in fact we're talking about the twenty thousand nine Stanley Cup. Wow so you reverse. The numbers was having a little trouble but listening to him talk yesterday. It sounds like they have a really good relationship right now with their PA because the players have gotten paid the players recognized that they need that the finish the season. They've already finished eighty five percent of the season. Let's finish the season. Let's award the Stanley Cup. And let's get money for our playoffs and I think pretty much. Everybody is in lockstep with the ideas and the way that they've gone about it and how they're going to try to bring it back. I know that there are some people that are still a little worried about certain parts of this whole thing and the plan and whether or not they can get all the players back in and what are Canada's laws versus the US laws and everything else that they're going to going back and forth across the border. If there's going to be a Canadian team that's going to be one of the hubs here but for the most part it sounds like they are moving full steam ahead and with all these governors now finally regionally opening things up for sports teams. I don't see why the NHL doesn't get started first and the NBA has been reported about. Maybe even moving back to August and Major League Baseball. I can't imagine seeing them before July fourth. If in fact they even play and we did do a cheesy sports poll. I was really interested in the results. Here we normally just do the cheesy sports Paul's do polls like did Moose Fall Asleep on the air. Those type of polls we do. But this morning we have one going. In the ongoing. Mlb battle decide with the players. Our owners because I thought that it would be overwhelmingly in favor of the owners from the Coles that we've gotten we've gotten lots of coal saying that the players are the ones that are at fault but this poll very very close so far we have not reached the alcs twelve hundred line that he says makes it official. Now does not happened yet. A little bit short of that is we just put the poll up early in the six o'clock hour but it's fifty to forty eight in favor of the owners right now so it's very close with under a thousand now over a thousand votes but not quite twelve hundred fifty to forty eight which is surprising to me that it's that close. It really be just bombed judging by the calls that we get so. I guess I shouldn't be doing that. I mean I can't extrapolate just because we get a handful of call say that they're mad at the players right. I just think it's a handful of the players. I think you know ten percent of the players most of the money guys like Pita Lonzo. Jeff McNeil they're not making any money gleyber torres not making that much money. I mean they're making money but they're not over a million dollars yet so it's not all the players but it the players will just keep their mouths shut and not say stupid. Things like Blake. Snell del I'M NOT SPLIT NO REVENUE. I want all mine. Yeah as long as he doesn't continue down that road and just let Scott Boras do the talking and let him become the villain then. The players will be fine. Then then you'll have a shift in public. Perception and Boris will make a very strong argument. As to why the players shouldn't continue to have to slash their salaries. And we'll either have a season or not but Boris will be you know the guy that's taken slings and arrows the players that just got to keep their mouths shut. I'm mark. The sheriff came out literally said the players need to get back and play baseball and then he softened his tone yesterday basically saying we don't want to break the Union because you know why because a lot of a lot of today's players probably went after them even expires probably went after him. You don't own life. We his twitter feed or any of that stuff. But I'm sure he probably heard a lot of that. Yeah are let's set an over under. When is the next time that we will go to either? A any one of us will go to either a met or Yankee game in person. I'll set the. I'll set the date at April tenth. Twenty twenty one over over under so. You're saying at city field or at Yankee Stadium. Yeah because we're not going to go like watch well. They're not going to be playing the Texas Rangers Anyway. But this the other weird thing they're going to be fans in some stands and no fans and other stands which is another thing that the Major League Baseball Players Association wants clarity on so if we play down in Arlington and we're playing against the Rangers. Texas said they can have twenty-five percent fans show up to go to those games. Yeah so over under. I think we're GONNA see fans in the stands. I wouldn't be surprised if it's if it's not August or September. Really you think so I do. Wow at a minimum capacity. Obviously pack the place. That would be great. That'd be a great sign. If that were the case do you tell me maybe ten thousand people go into a Yankee or a? Listen when I when I think of the bleacher creatures out there in right field in Yankee stadium or think of Darren's seven lineup out in Centerfield and city field and I think about how those people are congregating so close to each other and they're on top of each other drinking beers and chant and all that other stuff. I don't see that happening in. I don't see that kind of grouping happening but I could see a spaced out. Some sort of general fan base showing up maybe in August and September. Yeah I mean. How does that complicate matters? They'll win a portion of the fans are allowed in. And you're trying to project when that happens and the players are asking. Oh wait a second. We agreed to something with this. You gotTa have protections. This is why I think you know this is initial foray into trying to figure out what the number truly is and what the players can get back from the owners. Yeah yeah that would be great. If you're telling me August or September that we've got limited amount of fans at City Field Janke stadium that means things are going really well outdoor stadiums. You know already have some. You're in luck and we're you know. We're talking about schools here locally. I think Jerry said Iona earlier about them bring kids back the campus and everything else. I Look I. I'm just thinking there seems to be a momentum here now there's the second way that all that momentum may just just get knocked out to the side and forget about it. Yeah in that scenario I would. I'd go back in a heartbeat. I mean I wouldn't be one bit worried about as long as there was and there would be am sure. Protections are waiting in line to get into the stadium and there would be. They would say choir mints masks and things of that nature. Would you bring your mom to a game probably not? I'm okay. So there are so. They're still in the back of your mind or still a worry and concern. Well I just I think it would be unnecessary like why. Why put anybody of? That's in a high risk in that situation until it's different when it's when it's somebody who's who's healthy and younger and doesn't as an in a high risk area it's a different situation right mother starting to see more and more people under forty you know testing positive for Covid nineteen but handling it. Get tested positive. I'm not saying getting and I'm saying like being in a bad spot with it or I mean one of the things that you enjoy. No taking your mom to a mets game. Yep Now we've done by entire lives. Yeah right exactly. So that's why ask you that question? Yeah I mean that's part of you who you are taking your mom to a mets game. But you're not gonna you. You would not do it under these circumstances right now certainly but I. I don't know if things change or if there's a vaccine or if there's a better understanding of where we are as a society three months from now as opposed to where we are today just like where we are today compared to where we were three months ago quite rapidly. Right they are. It's just one of those things that just like wipe take that risk with anybody who is true at risk that that would be the thing. But I don't think your mom would want to go to her Rod Gardenhire talking Rod Ron Garden shoot. Excuse me manager. And he's three years older than me. Yeah he's also he's a cancer survivor to on toss exactly. Yeah and that's all I know it's going to be as we go back to this conversation all the time. But it's about protecting yourself. It's making the right decisions for who you are. You know when we've said it for months and months and months I mean Garner has to live his life a different way. He's been living his life a different way for his entire life. And there's other people now that are in high risk areas or no. It doesn't necessarily need to be age but it could also be someone who's got one of these co morbidity is that is is not older that has to protect themselves but also hypertension list. You know as long as your arm but there's also mean millions and millions of people and lots of them. We know already who have gotten this and it's passed through them. I've been fine because they've been otherwise healthy individuals so it's about who you are. What affects you what your age is and protecting yourself. I mean that's what it comes down to. I mean you know someone who I don't WanNa make these comparisons get I have. I have a guy that seventy and a good friend of mine. Who Seven years old seventy came down with. Covert nineteen quarantined himself in his bedroom for for seventeen days and I was talking to him every day and I said you know how you feel and he goes down a little little fever. I said well look whatever you do. Just don't lay down. Just TRY TO KEEP WALKING. Keep the blood flow and try to do whatever you can do. Some knee bends whatever? Whatever it takes couple setups would just keep the blood flown. Just keep Movin do not laid out. This is my own mindset and he did all of that and I'm happy to report that after seventeen days he was fine. He tested for the antibodies. He came back positive obviously had lunch with him the other day. He's doing great. He's doing fantastic. He's like at one minute. I was the worst person on earth because I ended up having this and now I'm on the other side of it and now maybe I'm the strongest person on earth does take care of himself do we do. We know this guy is a friend of the show or is this moment. I say I don't know if you know him. But some of the guys here know him from past years and stuff like that. Yeah okay well good. That sounds great. Nice he's a healthy guy like you know he you know was able to deal with some of the symptoms and it just didn't never manifested itself in his chest and it didn't turn into one of these cytokines storms where all of a sudden his immune system went wacky on them. Right Right which is very scary to see that and that could happen to anybody at any age it good. Yes all right boomer. Go on the fan CBS. Sports radio DOT COM each the morning show with boomer Esiason and Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo Art. Jerry say during the warm-up show that's going to be eighty four degrees where you are today Jerry in parts of Jersey. Yes I mean that's just insanity wasn't gonNA be about fifty five. Yeah close might not come on. I don't think we're seeing seventy I saw. Trenton was eighty four on CBS. Today I think by ME EIGHTY TWO BY AL. Seventy eight something like that. Oh come on even by Al. Get Seventy eight. I think so I think so. I got sixty eight and faulk. That's what I got. Get along stretched out summer. I got late. I got light rain right now. I have clearing skies all right. Well I mean tomorrow I got High of wow. Wow look at that. It's actually high eighty high eighty so it wasn't gonNA be one hundred fifteen by you. We have eighty as well tomorrow. And then seventy two on Sunday I got I got on Sunday. So maybe it is changing. I'm seeing a rip current statement right now to watch out for that man. That's nothing to mess around with known not to the beachgoers and by the way a little. Psa for beachgoers. If you get pulled out by a riptide you let it take you and then when it's overtaken out you swim sideways. You don't try to swim when it's taken out against the rip current your tire yourself out and that's how people get themselves in big time trouble so there's a little. Psa learned that from a lifeguard. If you're out in the water and you start getting sucked out let it take you. Don't use any energy and then it stops taking you out starts swimming sideways so you get out of the current and then go in a different way. When you're out on your. Do you ever see anybody? Get get taken out sucked out. No I have not I saw well. You have to be on the ocean to see that you're he's very rarely the ocean he's usually on the bay one time though is a very. I saw search when I was in that little new inlet that we have by. I was seeing search because someone unfortunately was taken out in a police boats and everything else on the shore and they were looking for somebody but Yeah that's a very depressing thoughts. We'll move on from that but just a little salute topic for the warm up. Show where we talked about funeral parlours and deaths and wills this morning. Yeah Andre Dawson Right. Is that how that was the entry point to that conversation? Andre Dawson is a funeral home director. Now yes that's gotTa be strange. If you walk in there is it in is it in Chicago or Illinois and in Florida. Okay so that definitely helps out a little bit because you know if you just like shopping funeral homes. Trying to figure out where you're GONNA to have the service and you walked in your big cubs fan and Andre Dawson. Meet you at the door. It's like Oh man. This is the greatest thing ever like. Wow can you sign this? Can you sign a casket for me? He's like Oh not again. You can't be in Chicago if you're Andre Dawson funeral home. Sports Minute on him. He did a couple couple of weeks ago was birthday. Maybe or something. I'm not sure but it was interesting. Could you imagine if you work cubs fan and yet all these cub fans coming to somebody's funeral? The think he signs baseball cards. When he's there now I would if he's smart businessman would eight and believe me he's He's I think he's doing pretty well. Actually yeah I mean. Wouldn't you do? I mean to set yourself apart from because a lot of funeral homes a lot of competition there and it's a never ending you. I was thinking about you know when I retire is going back to Cincinnati and opening funeral home. Wow that'd be yeah you would be a big hit boomers. Burials what a tough way. I know it's lucrative and I know you gotTa do what you gotTa do. But that's gotta be a depressing way of life doesn't it? Oh yeah well especially if the person. Who's embalming the bodies and all that stuff but even if you're not if you're the person who is there to talk to the family master that's sad. I mean you get jaded after a while. I don't know it's a business and you know you sell services you know what kind of what kind of box you want. Do you want to be cremated. Need how many limos you want I mean you know you no doubt but does your search funeral or you just want the basic funeral but even think about it though boomer like a really good day for you as a really tragic day for someone else. It's just I don't know I saw people got to do it. I'm not An issue with it. It's just got it's gotta be so tough at the end of the day. It's just another business. There's feelings involved. Of course there are and maybe they become a little bit depending on what the situation is. If it's somebody that's much much older and has lived a very full and active life in the left all these great memories behind and a lot of the people there are to celebrate one's life as opposed to the true tragedies that happen to young people and car accidents and overdoses and things of that nature where there's a lot of pain and suffering by the family members. I would think that would be the most difficult thing to deal with all right. So I started with getting sucked out into the ocean with riptides and into the depths of the funeral home business and what the most depressing funeral is. Can we get any deeper into sadness? Is there a way anybody else have another shovel not so we can keep? You usually have something like this. Something very depressing. Do you have something even more depressing than what we've talked about something involving death maybe of You know pets about schedule after ten. Am blank. I like the fact that you hung something on your wall. Got Something on the wall back there an overlook over this back Nice. They're they're they're a little high on the wall. And how did you measure that? And how are you just just kind of do it and hung it and walked away? Good question actually. The previous owners left nails in the walls. What is that behind us at a quote of some sort of Eight is? Would you like to see it? Yeah I would like all. Righty no boy. Your headset wire enough. Now what way before we see this? Do you think it's some sort of inspirational quotes has the doesn't it? Do you think it's something funny? Maybe rudyard kipling nor do you think I'm going to say a quote from a Seinfeld character. We'll that wouldn't be inspirational. I'm changing my mind. I'm GONNA site quote from a Seinfeld character. You'll have to keep in mind aware I'm living as going to say. It's a bruce springsteen song quote yeah good one. That's a good one all right here we go. That was a gift I think he got back in the day. I don't WANNA see your floor. Laminate flooring what is that? Can you read that? Now you gotta get closer. I'll man I. I hope I gotta take my headset off. Then how the. Hell's going here read it to us. Bruce springsteen he got it. I was living in Bradley Beach New Jersey Center of the World Bruce Springsteen. That's perfect for his place ally when you put your headsets back on cheese committed my God getting dizzy here. Did you move to Bradley? Beach specifically because of that quote. I did not no okay all Right Wendy. Justify that one. Did you buy that quote? That quote made heard it on the radio. The East Street Radio that I listen to Bruce springsteen radio sometimes and I heard that and I was like. Oh that when I moved here so I'm going to get that quote went right on Nazi and got it. Got It made by somebody. Well Murray Nice thrust looks good on the wall right all. Don't know where to put this. I forget how this works. Oh I gotta go this way. Sorry guys gotTa flip upside down now. No no very well Geez. It's all good. Everybody this is the thing about zoom calls or House party. There's always somebody that getting up. And walking around and moving around with their either phone or their ipad in a very distract or starting fires You Guys WanNa talk to a more tissue and you want to go to the update. I think more than probably would help us understand their livelihood. All right let's go to Josh in Rhode Island on Rhode Island wherever you want to say. What's up Josh? Hello how are you guys India show this new show every morning on my way to work. I heard you guys talking about the lifestyle of audition and I just wanted to Reach out an elaborate on what we go through on a daily basis In terms of meeting with families I am a licensed funeral. Director and embalmer The most difficult part of the job is the time demand I don't think people realize that we don't have holidays On call every single night Regardless of what's going on at home I after my attention on these families and keep in. Mind that whatever's going on at home. These people are too far worse situation then when I have Am Cova has drastically changed how we do generals which doesn't even allow these people to properly in addition to the back fat unfortunately the hang in hospitals in nursing homes by themselves With nobody supports them and that takes a huge toll on the families that we serve. And then like. I said we're not even allowed to give them what we would consider a proper sendoff. How big is your funeral home? Not Very big. We do play a hundred calls every every year I work in a very small tight. Knit community And I have been lucky enough to not have any coats cases. Yeah but I do know people in mistake that have faced that and even though we haven't had any covert cases they just yeah We do feel the effects of the protocols. Put in by Gina Raimondo. Which of course they are abundance of of Caution caution exactly yeah. I'm so we. We were originally limited to five people in the funeral. Home and at the cemeteries and the funeral staff in clergy count towards those five people so at any committal prayer at the cemetery. We were only allowed to have three people. Actually race I And then the e clergy and if you know after we would Step away and then to other people who had to remain in their car. The whole time We're allowed to come to the graveside and say Goodbye. And then as one person last another person could come Recently that was yes. Saria Josh. We gotTA stop there. I felt like you were talking about This is depressing as humanly possible is what that would be a call. That would settle. Shed some light on this. We'll have some fun. We'll talk about it but no serious. That's he has to be. Yeah Eddie I'm not taking the call who guy works in a cemetery. I'm not sure what you're trying to do here. That's why he's trying to do. What is that each regiment here? He's trying he's trying to depress the hell out of us. What he's doing he loves this. That's what I asked I asked I said. Well you WanNa talk the mortician or not of course boomers like let's talk to the tissue. Please let's let's bring it on. I think you know George. His tone is going to be no. We're not no no no more. We gotTA stop being. I know it's people they wanted. They want to be able to tell their story as well. And you brought it up and you're wondering how what the life was like. They have a story to tell they just want their. They want their story to be heard. That's all the I wanNA be accurate. Yeah I get it but like yeah and we heard it and I was great. But I'm just GONNA pretend I'm not going to ever die. That's what I'm GONNA do today. Drink MARGARITAS GONNA have a blast on the Friday night? Be Thinking about our funeral. Director friend up in Rhode Island and his covert protocols. I just can't I. I'm sorry you know. Sometimes you just gotTa put the blinders on and sometimes you just put them. You know just to keep yourself sane. Rather talk about the mets no. That's the only thing more depressing. Now we will will break. We'll come back. We'll give Jerry more time. Has that sound so then we could just pull the rip cord on this and start all over it. Pretend it never happened. That's what we'll do. It never happened yes I I just have to. I might even take a shower during this break. Just come back. I've got another one way would actually put up on your screen yet. Do you think he's worth the the the attention. Eddie this would maybe. I think his name is Joe. Joe You there no. You can't do that to me Jovan morning. Hey Joe what's happened to Joe what's up with you all right. Listen back in the day. My uncle was he. Was You know an embalmer? A funeral director right here in Queens owns zone faulk which is not fluff guys and at the time. I mean you know. At that time. It was the house. The house was appalling. You know and my my aunt and uncle lived upstairs and downstairs was a funeral pollen everything and he wanted me to get into that business and fortunately. I went into construction because my uncle. He's been eating lunch when he was embalming the people as a ham sandwich and tomato soup come on. I'm telling you come on that. That is such no way to me. I'm serious and at that point. I was like I'll Jack. I mean really. It's like ham sandwich and tomato soup Eddie's given he's taken away the ability for me to even move on from this call. Oh I didn't know that. Well this is the way I put them up. I'm sorry I can't even. I mean okay. I would choose a hard time with this mix. We got our fun Friday on the fan talk about cancer. Oh my God yeah good Lord we got our Promo only station and all the other shows you know talking about the jets draft and they joe these there right so it's boomer and Geo on the fan my uncle St launch while yields embalming bodies ham sandwich and tomato soup boomer and Geo or having quite the time right. That's it it I will. Oh my God. Wow are each the morning show with boomer. Esiason and Greg Giannotti boomer and Geo so I ended up having A. I don't know our long off and on texts conversation with the Irish Patio Guy. Yesterday after he came on the show turns out did mention a little bit of the. He's a huge. Boxing Fan. Who was an amateur boxer? His sons like a twelve year old. Golden Gloves Champ. He does know. Joe Winters He was out in Vegas for wilder fury and was partying with Tyson fury after he beat the day wilder and sent me. A bunch of picks poolside with Tyson fury. All the stuff. I had no idea anything about him. But that's alright worked out perfect. You got the right guy. Doing your patio and it was pretty cool so I was. I was very very happy to have that conversation with them. And now we're a fast friends who will be talking about boxing all the time and when I'm allowed to go see a live sporting event again. I want go see his son. Apparently his sons like on the fast track to be like a real ass kicker once he gets older here so his son are Al always son sons in his sons twelve. And he's undefeated. He's got all sorts of belts like he's on. He's on track to be the most successful amateur boxer. That comes out of Long Island Ever Preston. I the reason I asked you. If you knew. Joe Winters was is because Joe Wonders. Eight boxing promoter. Now Yeah and Joe is has a couple of Irish fighters in his gym and they have a gym out there. I I want to say. It's like cold spring harbor. Huntington that area Saint James Area? That kind of so. I'm assuming that they probably run into each other quite frequently. Yeah he said he used his Jim a couple times and that's how he he knew him. So yeah I mean Joe Winters Man. I'll tell you that's renaissance man right right. That is a small world man. Yeah it really is and I just thought he was an Irish patio. Guy Never knew the depth of this man all right. Let's go to nick on Staten Island. What's up Nick Houma? Geo Good Morning Guys. Has Everybody all right next year? What's happening man right? I got taken the call. Thank you for you guys doing Some terrorist you in the morning to lighten the mood. But let's talk about the mets for a quick second I think the mets being met in the middle of a pandemic. So I'm a huge fan. I like to watch baseball as much as I can. On S and why be no network so last night? I'm going through the Channel. I go to s and why he met classics now. I'm very optimistic. When the mets classics because they put on Sometimes Harbour Games? Last night happened to watch a look. They put on ener. Lds gained four against the dodgers in. It was a three one horrible. Look how is it possible? Well the Yankees did this to recently. So the yeah. They put two of the worst losses they've ever had in the history of their franchise so unless it was some sort of April fools joke which I don't believe that it was because we're way past April they put on back to back the bill. Mazeroski game from the nineteen sixty world series with the walk off the pirates homerun end. They played a game seven in the two thousand and one world series. The loss of the diamondbacks. I did not catch that. Yeah I yeah I don't maybe they're just running out of games. I mean maybe they think that fans want to experience that pain again. I don't know what it is but sm wise not the only one to do that. I could never watch that stuff. I've said this before like I have a tough time going back and watching football games of stuff period whether it's good moments bad moments whatever. It's just hard for me to do that but I could never watch the bad moments especially the one game I could never ever ever watch again. Is that ninety eight. Nfc Championship game. There was even that missing rings documentary that NFL Network did on some of the best teams that never won a super bowl and the ninety eight. Vikings were on there. I could not put that on. It's just so and that's a fan. I can't even imagine players on that team having to go back and watch that stuff. It's just so difficult I mean I have never lost a super bowl or anything. I knew getting there. I knew we're going to go there and I just did not want to engage in that discussion. I mean talk about morticians and funeral homes and embalming and ham sandwiches and tomato soup. And now we gotta get into losing a game that you don't want to. Rewatch at least I've actually done that and I don't WanNa Watch it so and you had to bring it up. Well sorry it'd be I didn't bring it up. The colour brought it up. No but then you brought up the Yankees and the fact that they showed two losses. Yeah you know we were supposed to do is go to Jerry here. I forgot about. I don't know why. Why did we go to Jerry? I totally forgot. Jerry's not and then he bail by the way he left. Yeah I talked I talked to. I said you're supposed to go to you here. And he's like yes but Then he said he had to go to the bathroom. I said okay. We'll leave it alone. Can't go to the bathroom during the breaks. Yes go during the actual show well but he thought within Steve for God that he was clear. See this is the problem with this five. Six our show now. I know they work earlier and they don't go to the bathroom time and then they just get in the middle of the show. The Bath Jerry. Actually revealed on the PODCAST. He actually took a full shower during the segment. I think it was earlier this week. L. Yes you're earlier this week or or last week. He said he took a shower during a show segment. Y that what he's doing now. I intentionally by shower guy. He's showers like four or five times a day. Yeah that's strange yeah. This one was all me I went to the break I was all the whole mortician thing was in my head than we came back and then. I was trying to think about something else and then I was supposed to go to Jerry. Didn't and now he's in the shower just totally screwed the whole thing so I have to give them a nice long update in the eight o'clock hour so we have the official amount of votes to make it official redundant much but the on who you side owners and players fifty one percent say owners in this poll about seventeen hundred votes now close. I mean we were talking about in favor of the owners what we thought it may be fifty one percent. Why no I know after the Blake? Snow comments it you know. The fans were irked. There was no question about that and the way he was talking and some of the things that he was saying and I think things have calmed down now at least from perspective but the one thing that I would say that if I were the owners that I do sense is that there is a little infighting amongst players either former players or players. That are both playing today that there is a little back and forth. Like if I if I'm an owner I'm the other side and I'm kind of watching play out on my you know there's guys that are really WanNa play. Let's just keep trickling a little more trickling a little more. And then maybe we'll get to a number of that. We all live with and that we would feel good about and then and then it's GonNa come down to the post reaction to whatever agreement or non agreement they make. And whose fault is Sally. Yeah Lost Sal and Huntington. What's going on Sal? Hey what's up fellas sally? I'll just calling about that. Last caller was saying that Why IS S NY playing losses? Yeah why was playing the whole dodger series for two thousand fifteen? Everybody's been watching. And why and is a real fan. I've been watching the Houston Astros series. I've been watching the nineteen sixty nine world series every game as been on S N Y over the past couple of weeks. The Boston World Series was last week every game seven games. They're gonNA play the losses. Yeah all right yeah. Yeah we didn't know that I mean you don't need to shame the other caller I mean that's what you were doing a real met fan. They know on this and why they're playing watching it and I can tell you that. Yeah it's it's just I don't I don't know what it is. It's a mental thing. I can't even the most exciting moments just it already happened. I just don't I don't know I just. I can't go back now if you're telling me. It's like a highlight package or a championship video or somethin'. That's one thing but the sit through a whole game like that. They had an hour show mets moments. And that's gettable moments all the great moments ANC. He's unforgettable moments. That will go on four weeks you seriously. Yes but no I watch that more like the music and montages and stuff like that but cut back to maybe an interview with a player or something or commentary from how you rose or somebody like that and I could get into that. Yeah there's just it's just difficult for me to to sit through old games where I know the outcome. Let's go to Terry in Dallas. Hello Terry Moore guys. Hey tap into Terry talking about Jerry. Taking little bathroom breaks and general's Now that it's minded mirrors years later I can laugh about. Family does but my mom's over leaving the center home to go to the church and we're the second tower in line behind Hurst. My brother says Puna gas station. I gotTA take a dump grown man I said you gotta be kidding. Me ITSELF STILL BASTARD. Hell to hold processions to follow in here locally. We can laugh about it now it did. They did the whole procession. Actually follow the no. I didn't I stayed line down the hallway. That's right that's what I'm talking about man. Yeah how pulling over into a station and think that you do that. There's no way I'm with Allan. This one there is no freaking way that I happened to me once. They happened to me. Once I had no choice for Montauk sunrise. Highway now is off the and I actually. I see. I called my cousin who used to do deliveries up and down like that area and I said I need your expertise to give me the best public bathroom where I am. And he brought me to one he was desert. Sonoko all of Exit Forty Eight. Also you serious. He's like yeah. It's pretty clean. It's not bad I said all right find so I pulled into that. Sonoko got the bathroom key and he was right it. It wasn't horrible of all the places but I got a tip and that's rare but this was either. I had two choices like I know you can have mind control with that. I can't I two choices. Either pants or that Sonoko and I ended up going on with Sonoko in boy that relief. Was I mean that's top three all-time feelings when you can manage to to get to the bathroom I would have? I would have. I would have a major mental block. Yeah it's put. Sometimes I know you can do that. A lot of people can't do that those people. I would say people can't do that. I think. Try that way Nordic Bowel control movements. Probably because I don't go on the lie. I don't think so Yeah maybe I'm trying to think if there's even a maybe out there als or maybe for you I mean you know Jersey Turnpike you know one of the rest stops or anything no way right now I don. I couldn't do the rest stops because he always hear about other things going on in the bathroom so I don't know who knows where it is right. Yeah I mean I am a world we live in. I'm a little bit worried about the bathroom. We go back to work now. That's going to be you know those times that because my body clock is way off now to you because my body clock would know that when I got home it was time to go so when I would come home from work. I the long commute like the last couple minutes. Things would start churning. It'd be perfect timing. Get into the house and I would go and my wife would always make fun of me like it's amazing. How the same time every day? The second you come into the house you end up going to the bathroom but now it's the same time in the morning it's during it's like it's like five forty five. It's like the first couple of minutes of that last segment of the warm ups your second last segment of the warm up show but used to be the first segment of the warm up. Show like you guys would come on in two minutes later. I'd get up and go and there's video evidence of this now on soon so in the body clock is like five forty. Five five fifty. So what's going to happen when we back to work? Is My body going to know right away? Is it GonNa know right away that first day or I'm going to have to train it again? You you may have to go through a whole training regimen again. I think I think Jerry's going to have to go through a whole training regimen again. Because as he left his update it was my fault. You can't blame him for this one. It was my fault I totally forgot about. It didn't go to him journey. Where'd you go? I wanted to get coffee. Writer can't break mistake. I apologize no no no not my mom my mistake at all. My segment is the second segment of every hour. We got to the third segment and we went to Georgia and Colonia. Yeah I went and grabbed a cup of coffee now. He's right on that it was me. It was me who forgot about it. I said we'll do Jerry next segment. I didn't do it. And he got up and he said that you went and took a shower. Because that's what you said on the podcast. I did do that so that was Wednesday. I did not like the way I looked so shower. Exercise Tuesday night. I actually I shower before bed. I got up. I like the way I looked needed to shave. So I jumped in the shower after my six thirty segment shower shaved came back. No one noticed. We didn't notice Jerry shaved his face and change clothes right. Well I've noticed you've changed t shirts today. Go with the freebies today. Yes Oh you are okay to go on that theme now for the rest of the day. I think so. Live your list. Good very good. Jerry did the bike to breed shirt on you had yesterday. I had to change that after the warm up. Show when I saw you come on at six o'clock with the same exact problem. It's a good thing we could do that here at our houses when we see someone wearing the same thing we have on because you could easily change but when you show up to work and you've got the same boomer assizes foundation shirt. Is Somebody else all right? It's the morning show with boomer. Esiason and Greg boomer and Geo from drops his microphone and it's very loud in my ear as it's OK happens to the best of US remember. We're talking about this whole situation with the on side kick and since they changed the rule that it's very difficult to convert on one of those onside kicks. I didn't realize that the numbers were stark as they were when I said well it's been very difficult to convert on those onside. Kicks really difficult yes so. Nfl teams are for one hundred and four when needing an onside kick in the last two years meaning that they needed an extra possession at the end of the game. The game or win with not a lot of time left not one of these secret on sidekicks to start a game or a half or whatever but when meeting an onside kick Oh and one hundred four well and that's due in large part to the formation requirements. Now of what's going on and remember. We heard Andrew Andy Reid last week talking. About how the special teams coaches did not want to go to this fourth and fifteen scenario because it takes away part of what they do for a living and trying to figure out how to be more successful with onside kicks right and this fourth and fifteen thing is not not gonNA happen. I believe at all and not only shot him down right. Yeah totally tabled so. I know that you had art rooney. The second talking about how. It was a gimmick so. I mean I to me. I'm glad it didn't happen because it just felt like it would have changed the game too much because you wouldn't only use that fourth and fifteen for when you need it. I feel like teams would have done that. All the time sometimes might even started defer the for yeah and then start the aim fourth and fifteen and go from there. Try to steal two possessions. Yeah and that to me is changing the game too much and I get it. You WanNa have an opportunity for it to be exciting at the end of the game if eighteen is up a couple of possessions and the team. It's losing scores and there's not a lot of time you WANNA give them another chance somehow. That's better than this on side kick but this fourth and fifteenth thing at first I said Oh I could be fun but then when you brought up the idea. The teams are going to be doing this throughout the game. I was like all right now. It's it doesn't seem like let's say you have your your the San Francisco Forty niners. You're playing at home. And let's say Joe Borough is starting for the bengals and it's week two and you know you win the toss and you defer to the second half therefore you are starting the game kicking off. Why wouldn't you would that defense that you have an a rookie quarterback making his first or second start and then I'm not sure if this would have been the case but this could be one of the scenarios? Why wouldn't you put Jimmy Garoppolo in your offense out there just to see what happens because most likely the worst thing that would happen is end up giving up maybe potential field goal attempt? Yeah I mean it would change the entire strategy of the coin. Toss in how you would handle beginnings of games ends of games and even the middle at halftime. It'd be the same everything would be different. You know what I was hoping for it because of the things that were just talking about right here I realize one of the reasons why they probably didn't do it and they said. Listen a sportsman. It is because I believe that ownership and general managers and even coaches to some extent while they wanNA listen to their special teams coach. I think that they believe fourth. And fifteen is so much easier to to be successful with then the on side kick that the comeback is now made even easier for the losing team. Yeah and that's what you don't WanNa say you WANNA see a team that dominate three and a half quarters get screwed because of a couple of fluky fourth and fifteen place. Well then again you know the fourth and fifteen is more of a football play than an onside kick is right. You can look at it. That way to kick has been around forever. So it's a football player. I don't care what anybody says and I was hoping the other just simply because I thought it'd be a lot of fun but I also understand why they kept it. One of the other things that they did finally get rid of which. I'm glad to see that. They got rid of was the check in loophole where you would take automatic or intentional penalties on offense to stop the clock when the clock is running. And you didn't have any time outs left. It's exactly what Mike rebel did New England last year. I think at the end of the first half in the playoffs. I believe it was in the playoffs so they got rid of that loophole so now the offenses can't do that. Which I which I love they. Also I think are expanding the the ability to bring back extra player offer free agency from two to three now which I think is smart and then they're also expanding the double headers for Fox and CBS on Sunday so The last couple of years we've been able to run you know games against the giants on. Cbs Two weeks out of the seventeen game season. And I believe this year will be able to do that. Four times and conversely box will be able to run games against the jets in the same market at the same time to John Story of joins us on the fan. What's up John John? Good morning with respect to rest stops the best one in the tri state by the between back and deer park in fact Humor site and cons plaque there along side Jim Brown f Scott Civil Teddy Roosevelt freezing very good company and whenever I can make a quick stop out a win by captain bloomers plaque and do my business. All talking about thinking about me as you're going into do your business. I appreciate that and at least they put me there. I mean they didn't put me in the Newsday List but at least they put me on the L. Welcome Center. Yeah the ad the Long Island Expressway. It's the Long Island welcome center. It's over there by exit fifty three. Yeah I don't know if it's a plaque it's like a stone that's in ground visit getting star out there in in Hollywood walk of fame. Yeah Hollywood walk of fame. Yeah it's a stone in the ground. I went and took a picture of it. Once you a couple years back in tweeted it out once they had opened it up no it is. It is nice in there. It's just really you know what I'm on that all I want to do is get home so unless it's some sort of emergency. I'm not just going to stop at the welcome center and pick up a brochure. What's happening reservation? Yeah but you know what's going on. I mean you don't need to stop at the welcome center that's for people that you know either. One have to stop and go to the bathroom to get a little snack or something or three. Somebody that is coming to. Long Island for the first time and they want to pick up a map or something you know that I know. Picks maps up man. It's two thousand and twenty. They got the. Gps like there was going to get a rand McNally. It opened up the car like Susan. All right so levittown. Nobody's doing that. They have they have all right. Map is probably the wrong thing to say. But I'm sure that they have some sort of literature you know if you want to go to a certain famous place on. Long Island and it shows you on the map. That's all things to do when you come a long island I'll counter with the Internet. It's just people you know. There's nothing that you can get it a welcome center anymore man. I'm sorry but if you tell me WANNA stop to get a hotdog and you need to go to the bathroom. That's fine but there's nothing as welcome center in two thousand and all I can't tell you how it a welcome center. They call it a welcome center because they want to welcome. You players some of the things that you can do. When you're here you can go. I don't know you can go to Teddy Roosevelt House. You can go to Jones beach you can go to all these different arboretums parks and beaches and places. Kayak and canoe and places the ride bikes. I mean yeah. There's all these sort of literature out there that you know. Somebody likes to happen their hand. I just can't wait till we get the phone call of the person that works at the Long Island. Welcome Center whose wife is a mortician. Who had a son who pooped himself on the way to the welcome center and couldn't make it to the bathroom? All the things type of putting a roof on my house right. Who FOUGHT MY PATIO GUY? When he was saying amateur boxer in. Bellmore JOINS US. What'S UP MORI? How are you guys? Look Maury what's happening brother weekend. Bouma listen I just hate to tell you this but every time I you know we take right down to the Hamptons. We stop off there and my dog always seems to find your story. I'm sorry I don't know what it is. He avoids all the other ones. And it goes straight to your selected. Happen all the time that you're being mean now. I don't know that's not right. Come on talk as much as I love you. I'm not kidding. That's number one number two inch since they gave that guy out the our show the been half dead on. Your show has no. He's been more. I haven't heard a word from him for. He goes for an hour at a time without a word and I think we need to talk to the to the Headman and tells the headman that he made a big mistake. That this guy can't handle the hour in the morning he sees almost non-existent on your show. You guys keep up the great work and go go. Listen the Irishman if he doesn't show up next week he'll he'll copd nine. Oh I have a personal relationship with him now. Totally fine with this guy. He's totally legit meaning talked. I texted back and forth for an hour yesterday about boxing and everything and his son. So we're good. He's either the greatest conman of all time. Or He's a good dude because he was sending me pictures of his kid him on vacation and all sorts of stuff so I think it's I think it's all good I mean and I I feel like I'm defending Allen Jerry all the time now but as I feel like this is my role like it wasn't Jerry's fault that he got up and left. It was my fault because I forgot that he's going to do the update and that's second segment. Al's totally normal. He's just been fine since getting the our. There's nothing about Alad has changed. I mean these guys could defend themselves but I feel like if I can add to the their voice it does help out but I mean what is Al Not doing boomer and Maury for that matter that is is making you feel like this hour is sucking the life out of him. I think he's been totally normal and totally out. Maury is a guy by the way which I have my own banned from the show for years. He's only getting in now. Because I'm not screening. Nicole is because he's one of these guys who and this is like the evolution of what happens with callers. Let's say guy calls anymore. He's not a terrible caller but he's got the same stick over and over again so he calls any does his stick the next day. I see he's ringing. The phone again might go You know what? I'M NOT GONNA pick up more e called. Yesterday did a stick. I gotta give it a day's rest or a couple of days rest and then I'll see calls for four hours then I'm like now. He's into psychopath to me. So the next day starts calling again. Now I'm never picking you up again and that's what happens to some of these guys like there are good caller but they go to the same stick too many times so I tried to give it a rest then I see how much of a lunatic they are that they call four hours a day for thirty days straight. I never then pick them up again. Because I can't mentally then say this person's okay to call and more. He's one of those guys. So basically you're what you're saying is that he's doing horrendous job in regards to ours and he doesn't know these things. Eddie is learning also after years of screening. Eddie has to relearn some of the tricks skills and sometimes when I'm like outside. I'm trying to be like an octopus over here. And I I just reach pickups ups before I read the name and and things sometimes addio. Say to me. There's a Mike from Bellevue calling. In his he call. It'll be a guy like who doesn't who's who calls four hours a day every day and you know him what's this Guy Story Maury by the way that's a fake name. He uses multiple names when he calls. He's one of those guys to on the radio. Really Oh yeah. I didn't know that I heard the Dog Ping thing and I was okay. Yeah thanks now I was just thinking back to something jarred my memory with this but when Eddie used to do to me when I would produce and I was waiting on a guest. That was late. He used to ring the hotline from his little office in a story. Ah then when I would pick it up he would say it was not whoever it was. So let's say for example like it was was Bobby Valentine. I was waiting for and I'm stressing out because Joe cannot storm. We're supposed to have Bobby GonNa g told me Bobby was going to be there. But I don't know where he is. So do you want literally six feet away from you? Little laws it. I was exactly so that any would have a phone and I'm just stressing out. I'm staring at the phone. I'm sweating shows just going. Shambles would ring the hotline. And I'd pick it up fan control and then it'll go. I'm not Bobby Valentine the worst and then I lean back by. Jared waved you stupid. Grin Yours. Oh man it was terrible especially when you had a host that was just bad at stalling now. That was the thing that was. You told me he's going to be on. So what happened here? He told me he's going to be here at ten. Eleven O five. He's not here. So what are you what do you WanNa do now? I don't know just keep talking guest here. There is a few hosts who followed that category summers my own. Oh haven't flashbacks okay? Boomer and Geo on the fan and CBS sports network each the morning show with boomer. Esiason and Greg Nadi boomer and Geo let's go to Jerry who is in his fourth outfit of the day. What's happening Jerry? All freebies our brought by flagging anthem premium close with unrivalled comfort quality and fit. If you want to know how far apart how incredibly far apart the owners and the players are I think. Steve Phillips broke this down. Pretty good yesterday and the Dan Patrick. Show he on the first clip. I'M GONNA play is GONNA explain the pay cut and then explain why more games added not a good idea. I Phillips the format. Gm on the pay cut the owners trying to put into place effectively on average. They're asking the players to take up thirty three percent pay cut now effectively the forty percent loss. They're actually putting thirty three percent of that on the players and only holding seven percent of that themselves from the owners perspective so it's a nonstarter for the players now. The forty percent is because of no fans. No parking and no concessions in the thirty three percent was an average where the obviously the higher earning players would lose more and then the lesser earning players with less than average out to thirty three percent. Then you talk about that. The players are probably putting together. This proposal today That's GONNA say pro rated pay and they want more games. They want hundred. Here's Phillips on that from the odors perspective. They're looking at it. Saying we lose about six hundred eighty thousand dollars per game paying rated salaries without fans in the stands. More Games is worse for the owners and it pushes. The regular season deeper into the fall. Were the owners have a real concern that they might lose the playoffs with the second wave of the virus? Which is a huge payday as we know from the TV company. So the I I was listening to this before and it is a disaster so I if they can figure it out God bless them but it does not seem like they're even on the same universe So we will say You do have hundreds of minor league players being released on Thursday We talked about the one by the mets. Who wrote that piece They let lawyers go. The brewers the nationals. The Mariners did the same also noted somewhere. I wrote it down. I think it was David price who committed to paying all minor leaguers. The dodgers system a thousand dollars to help out to get through things so nice little gesture there by David price who I don't think these Pitchford for the dodgers yet but he is in La Football wise. What are we got? We got Joe FLACCO meeting the media for the first time as a member of the jets. He believes now. He knows he's going to be the backup. He believes he could still start but he knows is wrong here and that is to help out Sam Darnold by obviously still believe that. I'm starting quarterback and you never know what three years down the line down. The line is gonNA look like so. I still have that confidence and I still have the want the the want to to do that. Just not going to right now. He was asked how much he knows of Darnold. Not March mean. If I'm being honest You know my impression is that he's a young guy that has really good. Athleticism can move in the pocket can move out of the parking rates. Thanks for himself as the arm strength what to do what he wants with the ball. You know both in the pocket and out of out of the box and those two are now form a nice little bond if you will Will there be fans in the stands. Come the fall. Don't know yet. Texas governor Greg. Abbott announced Thursday outdoor stadiums and Texas can have twenty-five percent capacity. So that's a step in the right direction in that way then you've got NFL players and others chiming in about what it would be like to play an empty arenas are empty stadiums. Melvin Gordon was a charger one. C. Says really not concerned about having fans in the stands we didn't have fans anyway. We the had many gallons of the chargers fans at the game. You know much Lewis you love but we meeting so I'm not missing anything Malti and love. But we didn't have many fans that was with Marcus Cromartie on either his podcast or as instagram live. I'm not sure which one but he gets the credit for the interesting thing about that is that they are moving into that new so-fi stay on him out there with the rams and they'll have even less fans then then they had at home depot place that they were playing and thinking about that. They didn't fill the soccer stadium right. Now they're going to be an L. A. An eighty five thousand seat stadium brand new got uniforms. They have good uniforms. That is I mean it's just going to be overrun by the opponents fans. That's where it's going to be probably in a place will be filled but it was the opponents fans didn't they play the steelers last year in the Soccer Stadium and it was twenty steelers fans. Yeah I mean that's being kind. I mean it might have been ninety five five well with Santa Capacity. You won't even feel like there are any fence and I think that's what they were getting on that podcast probably so the NFL EA. Sports agree to extend their deal with Madden to One point six billion dollars on a six year extension. How much of the players is that? A fifty fifty deal between the league and the players boomer. What I don't know I I'm not sure how that That's probably a licensing agreement. So I would think that if you're gonNA use the players likenesses it's got to be done through the union so I would think yeah. I would think that there's probably some sort of percentage large percentage actually that goes to the players association. Right coming up in August. You were going to have the hall of fame enshrinement for Kobe. Bryant Dunkin and Kevin Garnett. They have decided to postpone that though until next year we are still waiting for details on the NBA resuming their season finishing their season getting to the playoffs by all accounts. It's going to be a Disneyworld so much so that the latest report was that the League was looking into how they could get families there safely as well and how many family members could come along with a player Lord Pearce. Lloyd Pierces the head coach of the Hawks. He says his team is ready to rock. We are dying to play. We need to play. It's important for the long term growth of this organization in those guys specifically And that's we miss it and we need the opportunity to play basketball and we really hope that that we can resume and we can't be a part of it But but our situation is different than every other team in the league because of our youth that was Courtesy of Jim Rome on. Cbs Sports Network and CBS. Sports Radio you can skip the next one. I'm going to kind of move on here College Basketball Wise and I saw this one boomer earlier. Ford me the story. I saw last night to this Arizona. State story with Bobby which is just beyond bizarre. So he's in a battle with the athletic director. There Ray Anderson about Anderson not properly handling sexual harassment accusations from three wives from staff members including his wife From a I guess a big booster and they've gone back and forth emails. Get out maybe. One of them released them but That's a complete mess out there at Arizona also says in the in the article it also says a quote from Bobby Hurley. That me and Ray are going to work. Hard to continue to build Arizona State Basketball now ray. Anderson is a former general manager of the Atlanta. Falcons I believe he also worked in the League office as well and then he went out and took this job out there. And he's one of the reasons why herm Edwards was hired as the football coach out at Arizona State. So this is a weird thing the accusations at Hurley Hurley. Ing at Ray Anderson about how he's put a number on the sexual harassment levels. Right is a pretty damning for Anderson. I think be is reading the quotes in the email. I'm glad they can work. Work this out. I don't know how you do though. I mean because what they're accused of or he's accused of and Bobby Hurley. Wrote to him boy. Those are tough things to walk back on. Yes I guess. It was a well known booster to Arizona State basketball that was either touching or saying things to Bobby Hurley wife and other women who are married I guess within maybe the coaches staff or whatever and they complained and I guess they feel like nothing really was done other than taking this guy's away and also letting him know that it becomes anywhere near the campus. They will call police in have him removed. So maybe in the eyes of Ray Anderson. He did do the right thing. Maybe just not enough for the likes of Bobby Hurley. And his wife and the two other women that were involved in this eddie skipped to the last one. We'll get to ED orange Iran. Just because we're talking about college sports hear and no fans and stands number one. He told Fox News just it would kill the college. Obviously the impact of the program in the surrounding area as well if there was no college football in the fall With without fans they WANNA play. Obviously he wants to see the stadiums packed place in the world. Oh seventy nine again players. The fans again. We'll follow all the rules thinking pensively be of interest to normal. We'll see the University of UTAH. Did unveil a plan Thursday for football and other sports to be played not Europe that includes you know students on campus. Not right away. We saw Iona as announced in August. They expect students back on campus. She had order on running shared on the other day. I didn't US great. He's so tan and like yes. These Tan and sweaty smiling and people started running next on. He is like the absolute cult hero but is the modern Iraqi seriously. He's it's true. I mean people started running with like forrest. Gump remember and forest run and everybody thought he was doing it for some sort of what it was like and it. Yeah he is today like the most popular guy that's state has ever seen now at this point video. I have to tell you that came to my attention a few days ago that you know. Our Foundation has been running a an online auction through the month of May. Because it's cystic fibrosis month. And Eddie Oh signed an Lsu football helmet for US Senate up to us. How I I don't know if this came out of the blue I don't know if somebody call from my office to ask or not but I saw that now my damn. That's pretty cool. That Eddie. Oh did that for us big bucks for that absolutely. I would think so. Good News the Premier League in England will restart June seven on June seventeenth with games. The bad news the Boston Marathon has been canceled. They're gonNA do a virtual race. I don't know if that means but the actual race has been canceled and the John Deere Classic has been canceled in Golf set for middle of July. I believe while you've got events about to start in Texas next week. Run A couple of weeks without fans we know that and Chase Elliott your winter at Charlotte. Last night is NASCAR. Finish that grueling. What was a four racist and eleven days or so as they jump back into the fray with their schedule all right thank Jerry. We'll talk to you next hour east the morning show with boomer. Esiason and Greg Finale boomer and Geo I got many texts after the show yesterday people expressing their did moves fall asleep opinion and a lot of people believe the two people I heard from colleagues that will remain. Nameless are reached out to me and believe that he indeed did fall asleep and that we were wrong. Those of us who believe that he did not fall asleep but that he believed that that was it like you. He nodded off. Now is that was that now. Boomer IS NOT ASLEEP. He is awake. He's gone but he's not around at all to do. The show and banging on his door heard some banging going on everything. Okay over there. I was going to take a shower. Hold off I'm sorry about that. How was I six minutes here now? Sorry about that I lost. No no is fine. I just heard some stuff in the background. I mean it sounded like you were shutting habits. Okay so you boo beating a man at your door. Oh no no no. I was just getting the garbage together and kind of stuff like that. Yeah I was just saying how I got to colleagues anonymous colleagues. Texted me yesterday. They were afraid to bring this up publicly but wanted me to know that they indeed believed that Moose had fallen asleep on video. This was a this was a crazy thing this thing took off. It was a great debate. Yesterday that raged throughout the day and people that were afraid to hurt Mussa's feelings and tweet out or text or whatever Moose himself to publicly say this and one of which even has a platform to say this and did not But texted me said he absolutely fell asleep and this is the type of situation that he is in being the father of three young boys and the unhealthy thing. Everybody was going with that. That demands on healthy. Got These kids that keep them up and and an my take on a man can't fall asleep that quickly. These folks these anonymous colleagues at texted me. They were saying well. We'll listen. This is the type A guy. This is the poster child for the man that can fall asleep in like fifteen seconds. Well this what I've been saying. This is why I one hundred percent believe he fell asleep and I know he got angry with US Yesterday. But it is what it is. I mean you know if I fall asleep. Hey my previous partner fell asleep there for Alex. You gotTa Wake Them Up. We're coming back. You gotTa wake them up coming back. I mean I was in a break though right exactly I mean it. It was like it was like like remm sleeping break for five minutes. One time. He did hit his nose on the microphone. During a segment he fell forward. We work early obviously hours and everything else and sometimes we have to stay up late at night and we're watching games or I'm coming back from the garden or whatever it is and I don't know how I do it but for some reason I'm just like that cameras on and when that mccray not falling asleep one time though boomer the one time you were out and I ready commercial into the break turned and he was passed out and I looked at any analogous what do we do out like. A light bad one. Yes it was. It was how continue to protect names here with this particular story but There was a producer who had this method the host he was working with would fall asleep almost every break and he would do the fake cough into the headset and it was it was it becomes second nature because this host was always falling asleep in a break so like if you walked into the control room and you were talking to this producer. They would look over overseas. He's hold on one second month. Jingle would come back and be like all right. I'm up but yeah it was. It was just hilarious. Like just give me one. Say I don't know why was the cough. It wasn't like hey wake up was the cough. Was I guess a little bit more? I will say this after working these hours and everything while these hours are not that bad compared to like what amy and. Jj and Steve somers and Joe. Beningo all to do overnight and still do overnight at that is a tough shift man. I don't care what anybody says. Yeah you know what the hardest one was. Even worse than the overnight shift was when we used to have a tape op during the morning hours it was the I mistake. Op that went into your tape pop and it was. That shift was like two to ten. Am that one was more difficult. That was the hardest sleep shift ever when I had to do that. Part time many many years ago because you didn't know when to sleep like with the overnight thing you could figure out the sleep schedule your sleeping at different hours but that to am to ten am shift. Yes was like why would that even be a shift well it was a tape op shift so it was like you would gather. There was a fulltime job that was associated with that for many years. That's where that you know Nick Colombo and Tommy Lou. Gower and rob acceded. Did that. Dave bundle all run through the mill. That's the grinder. Yeah that one was there and I think Ray Martell even did that. Shift there for a little while. Yeah it was a it was a rough one so you collect all the cuts for I miss. It started with Iras. Because he'd get all the news talk and argue that too. Yes yes. Bobby did it as well. Yeah when he was in BOBBIES JOB GROWS CRONIN. Then Bobby Bobby then Rocco CEELO maybe now Rocco wasn't Iraq. Oh no he was after CEELO. Let's shift whatever the owner. That's great that is literally the graveyard shift that that one I actually thought was worse than the overnight. The pure overnight shift. Because you could you could figure out a way to get through that overnight shift but the to ten it was just you were stuck in the middle had to show up to work to which is what sort of like Eddie does now. He basically gets the work at two o'clock. What time you get into work nowadays Eddie. Same time about three fifteen. Yeah but as that shift went on different people took it slowly. They then started rolling at three. Am and then four am about four twenty. Yeah four hundred. Never good when I got there before the day. Oh you're outing BOB now. No that's not talking about talking about what it was. That was the full time tape shift guys that started coming in at four fifteen four twenty four thirty and it was always barking. She Yeah GimMe GimMe Gimme your itinerary for the day. Like you'll leave. Wfan at what time now. Friday's a little earlier but probably about ten twenty but on a normal day. I'm leaving about eleven o'clock which is when I usually right okay and then you get home and then what time do you try to put your head down on the pillow. Six o'clock actually little later because since this whole thing's been going on I have to give. Cbs The TV. Folks the log after wait for the logged be emailed to me after go through that so that's actually been making me go to bed a little later so close to seven. Actually you can actually with the light with the sun still up and everything on on you can put yourself the bed at seven o'clock. Oh Yeah I can fall asleep anytime anywhere. Wow that's amazing. I'm the same way with this sleep. I mean I've said it many times. I could lay in the middle of the FALL ASLEEP. If I had no problem. Really Yeah no problem you give me give me a little bit. You wouldn't be worrying about some teenager texting or something like that in the middle of the I'm talking about. Yeah just just lay. No I wouldn't be. That'd be fine way right down say I got a little shut. Eye will come and get me if there's a problem but yeah. I think it's difficult like in the summertime when beautiful weather and you could be out in the sun's out till eight thirty. It's impossible for me. It would be tough to go to sleep at six o'clock and I could if I had to easy but you don't want to. That's that's the thing just changes absolutely everything. I want to go to Mike on Long Island right now. Who JOINS US? What's up Mike? How you doing boom in jail Great show thanks You bring me happiness right now in Kuala quarantine since Sunday morning I had some Symptoms back pain critique loss of work at a local hospital here on the island so I went to get tested a nasal swab waiting for my results. Hopefully it's negative. But I just want to let you guys know you bring me happiness. I have two boys Michael in Thailand. My wife works in the medical field and I just gotTa say Gee Your Voice overs a great. You'll hall of fame to me from Long Island East islip. I played some college ball three big sports fan. I just got to say I love your show and you bring some happiness. I just WANNA say also be settled. Stanza stay distance and they. I'm on meds right now. I I suggest go get some think. Supposedly think is good. Think can I go get yourself something pills? Thanks Mike thanks for the kind words. Hang in there and good luck. Yeah I know it's difficult and there's a lot of things that can get you through. I mean that's one of the things that I'm really happy about is even in the height of this we were. We were on the radio every day. We're able to find out a way to to be on the air so I know let's provided some sense of normalcy to the listening audience so it always makes me feel good when someone says stuff like that. It's going dog. Who'S DOWN IN FLORIDA? What's up doc? I mean fly live in New Jersey. But you guys have during this pandemic I've been in Florida guys been keeping me tight to To what's going on in New York life is almost done normal down here a lot better down here up there but I have a great. You were talking earlier about Meeting a bathroom in a hurry. A Great Story. I went with Two brothers that friends of mine and another worked friend the nineteen ninety-six met world series. So we stop in the Bronx at Arthur Avenue at Jeev guys ever hear Dominique's on Arthur Avenue women over there like an institution so we go over there get some good Italian food. We go to one of the bakeries. I get the name. Afterwards we get some cannolis and then we go get some cigars smoke. Some scores the four of US getting a car. We met World Series. And we're just getting over you go you know to Whitestone Bridge. They go in the right. Go over the overpass. Loose to the last goal is to the world the get some shake savings and a guy. I'm sitting in the backseat. Go to the guy that was driving. Takes Craig like I gotta go to the bathroom. So there's traffic all over the place like you're kidding. Wanted to do out there. Ten thousand cores here. What do you want me to do? So we'll go in like you know we go like a half mile twenty minutes and it's crazy. I'm sitting in the backseat with this. Guy's face getting to sweat or building up on his head like he goes Craig Man. You got to do something like I'm dying here. We get across like no joke. It was a Sunday night game. The Guy had the Sunday Times and board in the parking lot and use the New York Times to like cleaning up. All right okay. It was the Sunday edition of The New York Times. It was the classifieds call him dougie details. Nothing and we get on the Fenwick Nick. U-turn we remember that Pothole used to be van back in the eighties. I lost three or four tires because I think anyway. That was really. That was awesome Pixabay. No I'm serious. I was awesome. Great very that is an education how not to tell a story right. That was the blueprint on how to lose. Everybody's attention like he hit you with the opening. Salvo I got a bathroom story from the eighty six world series and then give you every detail of what happened. What he ate wary went before how many people were in the car. How many people are in traffic every road that he took? I mean that was it. Took like two and a half minutes to get to the point that he wiped his disaster with the New York Times. Funny thing is that he felt like he was telling a story as if you were sitting right with us. Caverns microphones show. There was no nothing he was just talking. As if you were with us in a room right we had all the time in the world just just killing time. She's okay I'll to boomer and Geo on the fan and CBS sports network each morning show with boomer Esiason and Greg Analogy boomer and Geo Jerry. Recco is back with his update. What's happening Jerry? All right guys couple of things before he gets into the sound. I got a lot of it. Obviously I've worn because of what happened earlier in the show. Talking about how cool. It is being part of different things again. All the different gear. So I've gone with all sorts of things Columbia gone with the F. I've gone with My Saint Johnny School and a lot of rutgers stuff too I just WanNa say a big congratulations out to my my Ben Asher over rutgers had a baby boy the other day who is literally sleeping at home right now. Watching you guys. So congratulations to them Maxwell to Ben and his wife Danielle so congrats to them. Nice very cool. And he's responsible for all the free from rutgers. Now you wearing a Christian McCaffrey. T shirt aren't you? Mlb T shirts. Mlb T SHIRT THAT MARK. Chernoff shirt that flag and anthem senators G. Yeah that the Christian. Mccaffrey won the with his charity on. It does look very similar to that and now most can feel better because he's not the only one who sleeps through radio shows this baby also right race. You've changed your mind. Haven't you know I'm just the fact that he seemed a little bothered by it? It's sort of like I feel like I've got a burst through the salt on the wounds stuff so I mean I don't know I'm just having it's not fun for me defending him. It's more fun believing that he fell asleep. But if you're getting me in pure honesty I still think his hand slipped and he did not fall asleep but the evidence is mounting out there and the public is against him clearly so obviously turned your initial thought process around a little bit more and more people. I hear that think that he's asleep. I start to go the other way. And when I had these two anonymous colleagues text me yesterday and explained to me that Mousse type of guy that could fall asleep within two seconds I had to I had to rethink it. But if you're telling me I got to make a final answer. I'm still saying no. It did not happen regardless of how healthier unhealth may be. That's really tough to fall asleep in under two seconds like that to go from like nodding at an answer to a question you know. He's he's like football is like a football player. You know football players and you know cannot off like that in a heartbeat and then when it comes third and fifteen and you want over something on Thursday and that guy happened to be asleep in that meeting it screws you. Yeah I can't even imagine. Yeah the old film session nap. That happens to many people all right Jerry. When he got so here we go. We got a couple of things here. We'll start with Harold Reynolds on Tiki and Tierney on CBS sports network yesterday. So there's a lot of opinions with this baseball thing with the proposals going back and forth. I hear was Harold Reynolds as point blank. Do you think that there will be a season own? Update that's not. I don't know what that was. I'm very optimistic. I always have been it comes down to one thing. I don't care about the negotiations that will get taken care of question is. Are they going to be safe and healthy and he went on to say that they're doing a really good job in that way so he believes they'll play one thing that was concerning Jeff? Passan's said I forget where I read it and I don't know what interview he did. And he's pretty dialed in. He believes that there are owners in baseball. That that don't WanNa play that. Just think they're GONNA lose too much money and if the players don't want to take the sliding scale Soviet will move on the next year and that's that's true that kind of goes back to we were talking about Pierre McGuire boomer about some players not wanting to play. If that's the case that would be really disappointed. I think I look here. Maybe talking to but the players that I have spoken to all WANNA play. I know the hurricanes are not very happy that they have to play the New York Rangers. But you know you just never know until you get on the ice how everybody's going to be and what they're gonNa look like and what kind of shape the team's going to be and which go it gets hot but you know there are some complaining there but at the end of the day. Isn't the the the idea to get all these sports back to get back to some normalcy to get these guys doing what they do? Best and that is the play sports competitively so we can enjoy it. You would think that's the idea I know that's why the NHL is coming back and again. There's not really a lot of fight about money now. There will be fight about money next year and escrow money and all that other stuff but hopefully football doesn't have to deal with the the union and have to take money away from the players. That's not going to go over well. Here is Ron Gardenhire who is talking about managing during this pandemic. He's not a young man anymore and he says they'll figure out a way to do it. Give me a walkie talkie and I'll just go on EH. I don't care as long as he do this thing safe you know. I'm sixty two years old. I've had cancer in bed. Blood sugar stuff. So I'm right and I don't want to be prime so we'll just take it easy and let the smarter. People Prevail here and then I'll do what they ask as best I boss again. Gardenhire on serious. Mlb Radio in the smarter. People are the health professionals that are helping 'em ob along with this and he says so far he likes what he sees believe me. They're doing everything possible and they're gonna do everything possible and they they know the number one you know people the top tier people who really have to be taken care of in guarded because of our h a lot of the managers and coaches. They've done it just the Super Job gluttonous note that they're gonna do everything they possibly can't right. There are no guarantees that do everything they possibly get to make room for all of us and then we'll see where we go today. Assuming that the players do offer that proposal that we are expecting in the report say they want two hundred games and they want their full pro-rated salaries do not know how realistic that is. But that's where we're at Also of note you've got from football. Joe FLACCO meeting with the media Virtually of course as they do it on these conferences here was flacco. Who is asked point blank? Why did you why did you sign with the jets? Now because you could have waited for maybe someone to get hurt and training camp and find yourself a starting job that kind of thought process. I was back and forth on for a while but ultimately think it's important to get on a team in get comfortable with with the guys on the team and get comfortable with San in this in this situation. Get comfortable with the offense that at some point be running in some capacity that having been said he'll be the backup to Sam darnold thoughts on not being the Guy Buffalo embracing it. I mean it's where I am right now and I'm glad to be on a team Playing football it you know in some capacity and I think it's it's going to be huge to get in there and know the guys and and develop the relationship with the team do anything I can to help. The team get better now while high. You know what I would call that. I would call that a very humble dose of self-awareness is what I 'cause. He's only making a million five right and a lot of backup. Quarterbacks in this league are making over seven million dollars so And he is a super bowl winner. He's made a lot of money and I think he's. He's eating a little humble pie. There's no question about it. That's what happens and I think Cam Newton is going to have to eat some humble pie to the question is where though. I'm glad you brought him up because rendezvous Barbara was on with Tiki and Tierney. Cbs Sports Network and CBS Sports Radio yesterday and he was questioning Cam. Newton backup we. Don't want to spend the type of money to bring in a hurt Cam Newton. If he's not going to be your starting quarterback and you're gonNA spend a Lotta money to make him a backup. I don't know that Cam is gonNA take a million dollar contract like to be the backup New Orleans. I I don't I I don't see them doing that. Or Joe. Flacco GUYS RIGHT. And that's why and everything that comes along with. Cam. You know that's the thing so it has to be you know I would love to see him. Go to New England. I'd love to see him. Go to Pittsburgh. I don't think he will go to. Pittsburgh IS I. Don't think Ben would want him there. New England. Only because maybe that would put a little pressure on them and I don't know maybe maybe he would learn much like I think James is going to learn a New Orleans with Peyton and drew one more from Ronay He was asked if he surprised that he still out there. And unsigned at this point. Guy That have his credentials and still be on the street. You know. There's there's something there and I I'm not close with Cam. Closer that situation so I don't know Out there odd. I don't understand why it's odd I was at. Tq said why. I think that was taking. Yeah I think so. Yeah I mean I'm because I'm a lot want me to be frank. He's injured number two you know. He's a huge personality number three. Even though he said a week ago or ten days ago that he was willing to be the backup is like number four. How much money. You're going to take the be the backup. And who is my head coach? Who is my starting quarterback right now are are they going to be able to deal with the personality that you've created for yourself? I mean there's there's there's a lot of it's not. It's not many available jobs. Well it's there were you know. And then they were filled by other guys who they believe they would fit that role. Better than Cam Jamie's seemed to be. Maybe a little more humble than CAM. Was that spot. Obviously Joe flacco Cams is a guy that he also has had more success than all of those guys. I met starting jobs. I mean about almost like Andy Dalton was one of those guys yeah. He ended up finally getting released. The bingles screwed up the released them late and he decides to stay home because of the Covid nineteen stuff and he stays in Dallas. I think the best thing can do can do is what he's doing. Wait for someone to get hurt and training camp and go take a starting job because he doesn't want to be a backup regardless of the interesting thing is right but the interesting thing you just don't show up and become a starter. I can a new offense. I don't know how many times I gotTa tell you guys that that you know. I Guess Twain Haskins blows a knee out in Washington would Ron Rivera then reach out to Cam Newton and bring him in I. I could see that. I guess that could be a heartbeat right. So but Ron Rivera is the I don't. I don't think Washington would be bringing him in in that situation because that would really put an enormous amount of pressure on a second year quarterback who stumbled out of the gate his rookie year. And that's probably the last thing that the redskins want right now also of note you've got the Texas Governor Greg Abbott saying yesterday that outdoor stadiums in Texas can have twenty-five percent capacity of fans nobody arenas though as we know you got the NFL EA sports coming to the six year extension worth one point six billion dollars to continue the madden brand From College football. Here's at or Gironde. This was what I was referencing last hour about. Not playing a rather playing in front of empty stadiums and forget what it would be like on the field for the players. He's discussing more finances here. The money that we get from the fans in the stadium feels everything around here. That university all the sports all the facilities the best thing that we could get the football players in Juneau Baton Rouge on a Saturday as hopping stale getting the restaurants. The HOTELS UPHOLD. Economy is booming. So it would be abate blow to not only universities but the economy. I do believe needful. That's on on Fox News so we will see what happens. There's your update is on. We be packing that stadium hundred thousands deep tomorrow right guys spring game. Yeah exactly put up governed by president over how packed one hundred thousand go ahead and arrest me exactly the basketball hall of fame. Enshrinement ceremony move from August. They're going to do it next year. That's the Kobe Bryant one. Tim Duncan Kevin. Garnett you've got the Premier League in England. Starting Up June seventeenth restarting. I should say John Deere. Classic Nixed the PGA Tour Looking for a replacement tournament. We'll see if they can figure that out in the Boston. Marathon has cancelled their race time. Now for moment of the day brought to you buy resorts world nominate your frontline hero. By visiting the Resorts World catskills and resorts World NYC facebook pages. We could have gone with the wonderful story of the guy that trek through the Bronx to find his way to Shea Stadium back in Nineteen eighty-six but that just happens we'll pass on that instead. We'll go with the The in radio station story of Xerri Screwing around with the then producer. Gregg Giannotti put when any used to do to me when I would produce and I was waiting on a guest that was late. He used to ring the hotline from his little office in a story. Ah I would pick it up. He would say it was not whoever it was. So let's say for example like it was was Bobby Valentine. I was waiting for right and I'm stressing out because like Joe cannot storm. We're supposed to that. Bobby GonNA g told me body was going to be there. I don't know where he is. So Jesus you aren't literally six feet away from you little laws it exactly. So that Eddie would have a phone and I'm just stressing out. I'm staring at the fall and I'm sweating that's shows just going to shambles would ring the hotline and I'd pick it up fan control go. I'm not Bobby Valentine worst. Lean JEERS WAVE. You Stupid Grin a yours. Oh man it was terrible especially when you had a host. That was just bad at stalling. That was that was the thing that was. You told me he's going to be on. So what happened. You told me he's going to be here at eleven o five. He's not here. So what are you what do you WanNa do now? I don't know just keep talking. This other guest is in here there. You go guys moment of the day. Enjoy a beautiful weekend. Yes thank you you too Jerry and Eddie would get me every time with that. No matter how many times I fell for it I would continue to fall for it. Because when the hotline rang there was always hope that any got me every single time. We didn't have the caller. Id on the screen. Right do now. That was the difference. That's how you're able to do that. All right boomer and Geo on the fan and CBS sports network.

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Hour 2: Big Ten and Pac-12 Fall Sports Postponed

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Hour 2: Big Ten and Pac-12 Fall Sports Postponed

"Counting down the days next Monday, I'm back coming back to ESPN radio every weekday starting at noon eastern time for a couple of hours and I'll be followed by my buddy Max Kellerman we'll do two hours after that we're both still doing our TV shows and then we'll go overdo ESPN radio and then we'll be followed by the dynamic new team Chanel McCain, Mike Golic junior with all the energy. You could ever possibly imagine it's all part of ESPN radio's new revamp lineup it all begins next Monday and I actually made the remark many times. Yesterday's I was doing a rehearsal boy. I would love to have had the news we had yesterday as much as they hated, the news yesterday to do on the radio. It's an enormous day. We're just past ten o'clock in the morning eastern time here on. Mike Greenberg were Bristol this get up with you for the next sixty minutes and then I. Take will come your way in its entirety on really a monumental day in the history of American sports the major news from college football that has consequences that are going to be felt for a very long time. Here's how it went yesterday I the big ten announcing it is postponing its fall football season. Maintaining the hopes of playing in the spring that decision made just six days after the conference reveals its schedule, and then just over an hour after they did that the PAC twelve essentially the same thing they voted to call off fall sports also with the hopes to play in the spring the last time there was no PAC, twelve football, which then was the Pacific coast conference was nine, hundred and fifteen. Then last night espn can from the big twelve will move forward with its plan to play football using a nine plus one schedule conference season won't start until September twenty sixth. Here's more on the decision from the Big Ten and the PAC twelve. All the decisions that we will make. During my tenure here at the big ten will always put the mental and physical health and safety in wellness our student athletes at the center. And how you look at this decision? It. Just we just believe collectively there's too much uncertainty. At this point time to encourage our student athletes to. Participate in fall sports to see Oh group was unanimous that this results decision was necessary. We cannot bubble our student athletes like Pro Sports Ken were part of broader campus communities. Soon, athletes living with your students on campus interacting enough questions and concerns had been raised that an answer is we need more time we need that we didn't feel comfortable moving forward. There was enormous reaction yesterday including from players. The highest profile player in the entire big ten is justin fields. He simply tweeted shaking my head Illinois receive rich of on. Sydney, said I just don't get how playing football isn't safe but attending classes is if the season is canceled because they're looking out for health house attending classes not worse I'm not safe to be around the same people who are tested constantly but I'm safer on many different peers. That's one of many questions we're in search of answers here. This morning and heather damage has been providing a lot of them for us and we have a huge crew that we put together reese. Davis has joined us this morning. You as always David Pollack Desmond Howard but heather. I'll start with you again as we continue to work our way through what was a huge day yesterday one of the most important things that college football fans should know coming off of this day. Well two things one, the reason that Kevin War and the big ten commissioner told me they changed their minds six days after making their announcing their schedule was because of the pandemic he said a lot of people are confused about the timing and it's he said, he understands the question but he said that as the players are preparing now at this point to go full contact and actually start practicing football which they haven't really. Done yet, he said this was the time our medical advisory people said to us it's time it's time to stop and they listened to those medical experts on their advisory panel. In the PAC twelve. It's a little bit of a different situation because they are reacting to what is happening there right now they're medical advisory board told those presidents that the testing capacity, the availability, the turnaround time it varies at each individual packed packed out. I can't talk to Maureen, PAC twelve school, and then when you're looking at that whole area, it's hot spots. I mean New Mexico state right now is a program that is desperately trying to play football. But if you're a team that wants to schedule them, you have to quarantine for fourteen days before you go into that state. So there are some very real issues out west that led the pack twelve to its decision medical in this procedural if you will considerations and all of this, and then obviously there are also legal questions about liability. So many people are asking how much of these decisions is about liability? What is the right answer to that question? Well Ray Anderson in the PAC twelve at Arizona state yesterday had some very strong words and saying this is not about liability and he has a legal background. He said this is all about the health and welfare of our student athletes I. Mean when it came to liability, he was very strong in his stance saying that it has absolutely nothing to do with it and we can't put a waiver out. We can't put that on us or on them it's not it has nothing. To do with that. So they were very clear that in the PAC twelve, this is completely about their reaction to the coronavirus pandemic and the high infection rates throughout their particular geographic footprint. Well, let me bring the crew in here and I want to start with Davis. Again, the host, of college, Gameday joining us for the first time this morning, it's been a an enormous day and I've seen a lot of your coverage yesterday, which is exceptional. What are your primary thought this morning? Well first of all, you know disappointed for the players who aren't going to be able to pursue their seasons in the big ten and PAC twelve. But at the same time, understanding that there's a greater situation to address in terms of the public health The one thing that has stuck out to me though Greenie. Is this notion of Spring football which I think is irresponsible if if pursued in the way. I went back through the NC Double A.'s guidelines for preseason spring practices, and all of it was aimed at reducing injury and player health and safety, and the number of times they allow live full contact with contact and all you guys know that very rarely do teams practice with tackling to the ground these days in an effort to keep you safe but there has to be some contact credit for the season. You have enough contact in practice would by definition, get ready for soon enough to. See what's allowed screen now then have them play games then give them some period of time off. Even if you stretch the season into the fall, I just don't see how you can say that you are you are backing player health and safety, and then sit well we but we also might point twenty one or twenty two games during a calendar year that people challenge me and say, well, they're getting time off now. Well, that's like going on a diet and getting in great shape and then for the next nine months eating a double cheeseburger and fries chasing it down with a milkshake and a bag of oreos and go mount went on a diet last year, it should be fine. Yes. You've just described my diet for the most part I. Understand the point you're the point you may as well take heather I want to just quickly come back to you because I think a lot of people wonder what does that even mean playing football in the Hembo just popped up there. It's been one hundred and twenty, six years since the Division One, college football game was played in the spring. What do they mean when they say maybe we'll play in the spring. Green they don't know PAC twelve commissioner Larry. Scott. Said yesterday we're still working on it. We have a lot of work to do there a lot of questions, Kevin Warren the big ten commissioner said, we don't know yet when I was asking these commissioners about their potential models a month or two ago. Spring football was a last resort. We'll talk about it. And deal about it when we to, and now they have to Mac Commissioner Jon Steinbrecher told me on Saturday morning after they postponed they've got a twelve month plan. So that's what you're looking at. That's the scope of this to try and figure this all out but this season has got to be condensed for it to work David Pollack Spring football your thoughts. Well I think the concern that reese brought up as a realistic wanted I. think that's the biggest hurdle. You know what? I'm not worried about I'm not worried about the players from the aspect of if we found a way to spring ball, everybody's like. Well, wait a minute so and so's going to go to the NFL heard mcshea earlier the top ten guys literally would not play. College football in the spring who cares there's a bunch of guys that sign in January by the way that are going to be in there to play football there's a bunch of other guys that would play football. So I I'm the same belief of race with the amount of counting you can take and it isn't about all that stuff but if you're talking about from a player's standpoint. Okay if guys leave go that's fine. There's plenty of more guys at every school. There's there's hundred one hundred scholarships that you can pull from that that people right there could contribute to their team. So I don't look at that as a big hurdle. I think that a lot of people do race. And agree with David. Next man up would be there and I think the other thing to David brings up in terms of scholarship numbers. If you know if you were to allow eligibility to continue right here as you've already seen, in spring, Sports Greenie, they've allowed rosters to expand they've allowed to financial aid to go on to other schools have it. At their discretion whether they're willing to do that because it costs more money but I agree with him I don't think the issue of guys opting out the NFL draft is a I mean look it would love to see those guys play I'm not saying that but I don't think it means you can't play I. Think the bigger issue is amount. Of Time to recover from one season, certainly, concussions would be at the forefront. That's number one. We all understand that assuming that we have to pandemic in mitigated state, but concussions would be number one but I don't think it's just that the off season the full off season training that allows these excellent strength and conditioning programs and high-performance programs to get guys. Ready to lessen their risk of injury as much as possible. That's important and you condense that and you take away some of trading type or recovery it difficult desmond. What I haven't had a chance to ask your thoughts on the possibility again, these conferences said that we're not cancelling we're postponing the spring. I suppose out there. What do you think of it? I think they're just trying to be hopeful they're trying to give the the community, the society. Just. Some hope that there might be a football soon as far as spring is concerned I don't know if it's realistic. We don't know where we'll be with the pandemic at that point. I do I think are headed out the park with them being irresponsible as far as having two seasons and in a twelve month period I think that hit it out the park with that one because that is really a concern us a major concern especially when you're talking about player safety, the only answer to that question would be, would they how greatly would they delay the? Fall season if they're going to have one. So if you have a spring season, I, don't think you can go back to back in and have a pharmacy scheduled when you normally have a fall season. So it would definitely have to delay that outside of that I don't know how realistic it is and obviously David. That's a great point you will. You will miss the superstars. Because the draft isn't April the NFL draft, but you do have other guys though scholarships who are are ready to take those guys spots. You know they're hungry and they're they're anxious to play too. So you still can have guys feel those those positions it just won't be the Marquis guys you want to see I agree with that you can feel a team if you want to the point is that if you're still planning on playing again in the fall you absolutely. Should not guys I'll leave it there for minute. Thank you all still to come as we continue on get up this morning whatever happened if a champion is ultimately crowned in college football, what exactly will that mean for the sport? What exactly will that mean for the schools those are the questions will have the answers and then it wasn't all bad news in sports yesterday did you see what Dame Lillard did in the bubble we'll tell you what he did that only will. It ever done before and on the way up on ESPN. Back on get up and the performance of the night no question came from the bubble and Damian Lillard trailblazers need wins and they were taking on the Mavericks in a high scoring affair fourth quarter three minutes ago Lillard team down three not anymore drills. The three two tied at one twenty, four daimler was nine of seventeen from three point range last night and look at the range right here. How about the friendly bounce Damian Lillard scored sixty one points in this game last night his third sixty point game of the. SEASON, only wilt Chamberlain at ever done that before. But whether whether it's still needed to win next Blazers possession tie game lillard driving dishing Hassan whiteside. Yes. Blazers up to ten seconds ago now mavericks down by one. Where are you going for a bucket Luca Trey Burke, kick it out for game winning three but hold everything dame lillard ruined charge because there anything that man can't do. He draws the foul on Burke and that's that would end Dave Wilson scored sixty one and the blazers get a big win by three. One thousand four, hundred, thirty, one tonight, we've got action for you on ESPN doubleheader starts at six thirty eastern Sixers Raptors, and then at nine, you got the clippers trying to wrap up the two seed taken on Denver Coverage begins with NBA countdown six eastern on ESPN and the ESPN. APP. That was the big performance of the day. The big game story of the day I should say excuse, me was this one, the big ten, and PAC twelve becoming the first power five conferences to postpone sports the big ten's decision impacts football soccer, cross country volleyball, and field hockey. The PAC twelve applies to all sports through the end of twenty twenty that includes football and basketball. Sportswriter Pat Dooley shared this on twitter coach spurrier called a few minutes ago said the SEC and ACC play their seasons and the winners face off for the national title because one conference was going to win anyway. As an alum of a big ten school I resent that to be honest with you. But that's the ball code for you. Let me bring my crew in here to react to that and more recess here. Paul is here and David. I will start with what what is it that race? I was just laughing but I know. Alec said he wasn't lying about how our? Ohio state could have won the national championship this year but the fact of the matter is is no team from either of those two conferences as won a game in the college football playoffs since the first year of it so you know. It's funny. It's classic spurrier but I do think Ohio state would have been a contender this year David Pollack. Let me put the question to you this way if the three other power five conferences do go forward and play and they play a college football playoff and everything else rule the championship be legitimate without two of the power five having even played a season. One hundred percent will I would ask somebody think it'd be legitimate and listen I think you need the majority I think you need three out of five to make it legitimate. But what just said the last five seasons everybody outside the SEC and the zero and nine Ohio states always in the mix there always a team that you got to be fearful of because of their talent level and they they're more built like those other teams but no. I think that if you look through the history of time and you WanNa talk about Asterix Fall speak to this. National Championships claimed throughout the Times of back in the days there was a lot of claim national championships and a lot of aspects. So if three of the five major conferences play, I, there's no Asterik to me and I think you'd earn it Paul. By. The Way David Drive I think Alabama is national championship in the forties when they came in third in the SEC. So it will be done. I'm not as optimistic as David in the legitimacy of it and. First of all, you're eliminating the Rose Bowl, which I think is you know really a critical game on the college football schedule. No reason would agree with that but but I have a hard time buying in that. This is a solid authentic legitimate national championship with three of the five I. I know the history we all do we've all been there. But I think it would it would be debated which frankly that's what college football is all about debating who should be in the national championship race. That's exactly what I was GONNA save it because I was going to push back on. Paul because prior to the BCS era the Big Ten and PAC twelve didn't participate in some of the earlier bowl alliance as and we still recognize those national champions although there were certainly rather polls that you in one case we know crown. USC and we had split national champions best part of the history in the fabric of the sport. Look would it be better looked beyond debate? It would be better if everybody worked participating, there's no question about that but it's still legitimate I mean if this place and you win the championship for that year, and then it just adds another layer to a time honored tradition in this great sport about arguing about what would have happened or what could have happened or what should have happened. Okay. So my mind I have a feeling finebaum is going to agree with me my mind talk show. Host, we are living in time right now we're major league baseball is playing seven inning doubleheaders and they're putting a runner on second to start an inning because these are extraordinary times we're living in pandemic we've been talking for years about expanding the playoff. If ever you, you're going to experiment with something like that, Paul finebaum would this be the year to do it? If these three conferences play would make sense to you to try expanding it out to eight teams and just see how it goes. I'm always in favor that in but the problem is and the rest of the panel understands perhaps better than I do try trying to knock some sense into those who run the College Football playoff which by the way include two of the commissioners who are now out of it. So that would be fascinating to see how that works. But. But I agree with I mean there's This would be a better conversation later in the year when we know what's going on, but this is what we're dealt with right now I'm still somewhat suspicious of of what the next step is in college football, but but but I think. It would be slightly legitimate if I can make up a word and gift in get an in English here. It's not ideal. Right now right I mean nothing is ideal a major league baseball. We all hope we're going to get to a world series they gonNA play. That team is all gonna come running out of the dugout. They're gonNA jump up and down, and they're going to celebrate a championship and it'll be as real as everyone decides to make it David. Do you like the idea of other kinds of experimentation if there was every year to do with, this would be it. That hit the nail on the head. It's twenty twenty Bro. This is nuts everything about twenty twenty has been crazy. So I think this is why if if I'm in the power five, I'm grabbing hold of the reins and I'm getting rid of the NC double A. Like this is the year to do it. Players have more power than ever. So if you're going to have a trial run, you got games with virtual fans for God's sakes like I'm watching the NBA and you're like, wow, dude. It sounds like people there wait a minute that's really strange. So why not tinker with things this year? Why not expand the playoffs? Why not give you an opportunity because this is the year obviously, we're all gonna remember the craziness that went on and how so many things change for for the rest of you ready for that reese you can take college game day and you're going to go to a bubble somewhere and you're gonNA cover an eighteen. College. Football playoff sometime it started sometime around Christmas are you in for that? They play I'll be in for it. Greedy. No question outlook I think Paul a poem very smart point a moment ago that you look at and we don't know for sure that these other three conferences going to be able to play and I think they've been pretty wise and saying that they are just continuing to gather information and taking the next step toward it to see if it is feasible to be done safely and I think it's been approved inappropriate. of by those conferences but in in this event, one thing I've talked a lot about number of games while you're having ten games now. So if you added one more layer, one more game for for another team under these unique set of circumstances I could I could live with that. I think that would actually add actually be a lot of fun. I agree that that's the point I make there's no way they're gonNA play the usual schedule Paul's holding up his hand quick final thought Paul. Yeah I just wanted to suggest something I. Know Everyone's struggling right now but if and when things return to normal and I'm saying this to you reese, is there any chance you guys could open the twenty one season in Lincoln? Nebraska because I think it's pay per view and Desmond Actually a perfect setup for where we're going next guys. Thank you. I'll pause briefly but that's what we're talking about right after this coming up Nebraska threatening to go can they do it? Desmond is fired up about it if you haven't seen it yet, you're going coming up in a minute and his fellow Michigan Man Jalen rose going to join us with his thoughts as well. So that next get up on. ESPN. We are back on get up and let's run the basis through the action for the major leagues. And it includes Cleveland placing starters actually sack in my clever on the restricted list after they broke protocol by leaving the team hotel to go out in Chicago over the weekend, there was very strong reaction last night from pitcher Adam Pluto who started the game in place of clovinger. They they heard that. They lied to US A. Sat here and in front of you guys and publicly said things that they didn't follow through on. And it's it's going to be up to them. it. It really is and You know all let them sit here and tell you how they're going to earn their trust back I don't need to put words in their mouths you know. The term that I continue to hear an excuse my language is grown ass man right. So those grown ass men can sit here and tell you guys what happened and tell you guys. What they're GONNA do to fix it and I don't I don't need to do that for. John Words no doubt. Meanwhile, suspensions have been handed down after Sunday scuffle between the Astros as Astros hitting coach Alex Intro received a twenty game suspension while Vase outfielder Ramon Laureano got six games. Laureano is appealing the suspension, and then the hottest player in baseball is Colorado outfielder Charlie Blackmon. His torrid start continued three more hits. Last night is average is now. Five hundred through seventeen games. He's hit safely and fifteen straight Colorado surprisingly right now leading the end west at twelve and five minutes thirty, four, hundred, sixty, eight so far this season he's hitting five hundred and you can see him this afternoon rockies against the diamondbacks three eastern right here on ESPN ESPN two podcast and the ESPN APP and with that is the. Bottom of the hour ten, thirty, A. M. Eastern time I Mike Greenberg this get up on Espn we were on Bristol Connecticut this morning with you for the next half hour and then I take will come your way in its entirety I want you all to see something that happened earlier on the show today because it's an indication of the sort of passion. That people feel about this college football story yesterday as you're probably aware the big ten and PAC twelve for all intents and purposes canceled their fall football seasons and Nebraska. One of the schools in the big ten has talked openly about their disappointment with that decision and possibly trying to continue to play somewhere else our Desmond Howard had strong thoughts earlier this morning. Think they're the only team that really wants to play. Of course, not all the teams coaches WANNA play, but they're not whining and crying, and you're talking about an excess leaving the conference I i. think at this point Greenie our demand an apology from the chancellor and the President S Scott Frost and not one behind closed doors public apology or if I ever worn right now I'm working on the way to get their ass out of the big ten. Desmond Howard fired up this morning and look at this. I got maize and blue in abundance this morning the heisman trophy winner in the fan five superstar my main man Jalen rose. This is Jalen what you think of that. While DESMA say which chess I'm not mad at my brother at all big shot Tommie frazier though Tommie. Frazier's one of my favorite football players of all time he went to Nebraska but I agree with Dez, and here's the thing Greenie as you become an adult you realize that there are certain things that are normal responsibilities right now, that is socially distancing in wearing a mask. Do you realize that there are people walking the face of the earth that are arguing about whether they should wear a mask or not? Right now, my youngest daughter Gracie big show is starting ninth grade remote learning at home. There are people protested in Georgia that they should be in school is this is the same conversation we're having about Nebraska. The season is not canceled its postpone, and if it does not happen is for the health safety of the students in the athletes and the coaches and everyone involved it is so very simple. So I agree with this one hundred and ten percent. Desmond that's similar to what you said this morning Joey. Galloway, and a few others we're hearing these voices of frustration if you follow twitter and maybe twitter is a terrible way to gauge. General on things I granted that but you see so many people people whose opinions I value who are outraged by these decisions yesterday by the big ten in the pack twelve or suggesting this is a lack of leadership and other things like that Desmond? What is the response to those people? Well I like to piggyback on what my man Jalen just said because I tell people all the time when they ask are we gonNa have a college football season. I listen when you when you get on social media, you watch the news and you see protests about not wearing a mask and you see people acting the fool out Walmart, Costco, all these other places where they're starting fights because they they they do not want to. Wear a mask if someone wants them to wear masks and they don't want to practice social distancing I said, those people are actively sabotaging our chances of having a college football season because once those numbers keep spiking and we're we're still breaking records then you put the commissioners and the president's in the position that they can't have a college football season and that's what we're dealing with right now now as far as the Brask the situation. You know listen the big ten has been around since the late eighteen hundreds Nebraska just joined in twenty eleven. Scott Frost twenty eighteen for them to sit there and act like they're they're bigger than the rest of the schools an to express such those. Okay. Express disappointment within the take another level to saying that you want to exit the conference because you WanNa play some games after you've you've been at greatly financially from being part of one of the richest conferences in all of college football I may just saw shows a level of disloyalty that does doesn't agree with me Greenie and Jalen? and. The other part jailers you you know Jim Dave Delaney. The former big ten commissioner Jim Delany was sitting SC after Scott Frost made that comment a couple of days ago. Someone would have gone their phone and call the chance of the president the AD. Whoever's Scott Frost boss is and made sure that they never came out and publicly said those statements again and would have had them to apologize. So is a great level of disrespect this coming out of Nebraska. Now, only Kevin warned in the big ten, the big commission, but the big ten conference as a whole about that Jalen. Trust me Greenie I know because the five was ostracized from that conference for like twenty to twenty five years. So I know they a grudge please believe me and I'm glad we're overall adults. Hurdles absolutely would that be greedy? What happens is it's an election year. So so so many times people try to politicize things. We saw with Colin people made him take an in the about the flag now's the same thing about mask you can't say that you. Want these student athletes to be healthy. But at the same time you're putting them at risk that this doesn't work, and then lastly playing so much football in the same calendar year. So there are a lot of these Brazil need to be ironed out but I go with caution and I applaud the Big Tier I applaud the PAC tin as well. PAC twelve whatever they call how `bout getting this money. They're the big, Tam they got fourteen teams for. Perfect example of what I'm talking about. But again, I liked them being on the side of caution and safety and it does lead one to wonder if you are Kevin Warren and we had dinner on earlier who said he took the high road and that seems to be I don't know him well but that seems to be at least publicly his his his persona that seems to be the way he manages handles things, but one does wonder if you. Were to get really angry in that position Desmond what would the possible things he could do be like I'm thinking of the reprimand of always thought the reprimanded is a fascinating means of punishing someone because it doesn't actually do anything, but it does go publicly on your record is anything further they can do I mean if if Nebraska went out and actually tried to schedule Games, let's even live in a world where they went out and played somebody else. What, what would the big ten do? What should the big ten do? Were I I would I would demand that they send me a check for about fifty million dollars since they've been benefiting from their revenue sharing that they all split and that would be the first off of business. Could us a check and then we'll try to see where we can ship you out of the conference and then if they stay in. The coppers though Greenie when it comes to scheduling, I would make sure that they're scheduled. Uh maybe the first two three four years would be on the road against someone to powerhouses because you can't control the schedules of the teams in your conference and so people may start looking in the BRESCA schedules down the road like man like how how were they? Playing on the to Tuscaloosa and how how we played on the Road and Clinton so Scheduling is also another way that you can reprimand a team. Now, they may have to set up permanent headquarters in. Columbus Ohio go ahead Jalen. And also, Greenie. I saw the players in their Hashtag that became the headline we want to play. Yeah. I. Want Ta players to know something to find printer that is they had some demands is will and I wanNA occurs them to continue to fight for those demands continue to hold the NCAA countable. You have now realised that you're only the Labor, but you're the power source take advantage of that used a list of demands and continued to hold those schools in those conferences accountable Jalen can I ask you one last question here? This morning I think this is important and I don't know that there's anyone better than you to deliver this message because. Above and beyond all other things, there was a large collection of young men who have worked their entire lives for this football season who are now not GonNa get to play it and let's put everything else aside that in and of itself is obviously a devastating blow to them in a very sad situation. What is your message to them? What what would you like as legendary collegiate athlete yourself? What would you like them to know today? Well, always talk about the eight most important years of a young person's life to me Greenie are the air highschool and afford it. They should be in college you ask any adult where their dreams go awry a lot of times it's during that eight year period of fourteen to twenty two. So for me, it's what happens now that you don't have football. Okay. Because that takes up the lion's share of your schedule. It becomes your heartbeat in so many ways. So for those young athletes, I would like to encourage them to use that same time and invest in yourself. Create another hobby something that you're passionate about giving back to your community take more classes do certain things that continue to make yourself a lot better than just the timing entity that you spend to be a football player if football is going to go away for a period of time for well said, real quick. How about you? Ah to piggyback on what Jalen Use your time wisely don't invest in just your physical health investing your mental health to re books he said, pick up a hobby check out something on Youtube and find out how to do different things. Things that may interest you that you never had the time to do before but invest in your Mental Hill just as much as you do your physical health. That's Great I. think that's important I'm really glad we had a chance to deliver that both thank you very much jalen Rose Desmond Howard jam-packed this morning as we continue in a moment on. Normal impact that the PAC twelve and big ten's decisions. We'll have on the NFL draft. We'll cover that in just a moment you're watching get up on ESPN. Get up is brought to you by corona extra find your beach. Tomorrow, night on ESPN two, WNBA doubleheader starts with candace Parker in. The sparks facing mystics at seven eastern. Then the League's leading scorers. Asia. Wilson G leads the Red Hot ace's against the links both games tomorrow night on ESPN two and the ESPN. APP? And official with our top story the Big Ten and PAC twelve became the first to power five conferences to postpone sports yesterday the big ten decision impacts, football soccer, cross country volleyball, and field hockey. The PAC twelve decision applies to all sports through the end of two, thousand twenty, which would include football and basketball. So heather ditches with with us all morning long heather quickly as we sort of spin this ahead, we know about the big ten in the pack twelve. What do we know about the other three power five conferences? Today. The ACC's board of directors is meeting their presidents and chancellors and I don't expect any major announcements to come out of that but we don't know what to expect out of the president's these days do but they are going to review some of the same medical information that the PAC twelve us to make their decision as well as here from their own medical advisory board, and then the SEC presidents are supposed to meet on. Thursday. So it's a very busy and important week for all of that and how about the NC double A. quickly what is their meeting today? They will be looking about eligibility. I'm told from source who is part of that meeting that they will be considering a sixth season of eligibility for all athletes and that's something that will be voted on next week by the board, and that's something that you will obviously be all over all day long and we'll continue to follow that with you here on ESPN TV all day and. On twitter and everywhere else and so with that, we will finish up for this morning. Thank you everybody for getting up with us today. It's an extraordinary day. This is one of the most consequential things that we've seen happening sports in a very long time. We'll continue to cover it for you obviously moving forward. We'll see back here same place same time tomorrow I take starts now.

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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 234  Bob Burch

The Tim McKernan Show

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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 234 Bob Burch

"Yes. Yes, welcome into another dish of the democrat show here on the inside S, T, O podcast network from the home loan expert dot com studios. It's an interview segment. Our guest this week, presented by Mark Hanna of evergreen wealth strategies online at evergreen S T L that come is Bob Birch. What life? This man has let you might be going. Think he recognized that name. How do I recognize that name? If you wanna talk about music entertainment, if you would talk about sports talk radio history and Saint Louis, and then also being married to Michelle Phillips. Well, we've just checked off all the boxes with Bob urge this is a gentleman. Who was it case? She in the seventies who was part of starting up sports. Talk radio in Saint Louis, and who has seen it all in radio. So often we get these questions on the podcast or requests for guests in sports talk radio sports talk radio history and Saint Louis. And this is a name in radio and in Saint Louis radio, and then also eventually. Some huge markets outside of Saint Louis that can tell all kinds of stories. And that's what he did here from the home loan expert dot com studios today. Presented by Mark Hanna of evergreen wealth strategies. Ladies and gentlemen. Bob Birch, by the way, what's going on there? People are Stanley Cup crazy man, as you might imagine. Oh my God. I tried watching it every night down here. It's got a bunch of people over here. And we watched it was crazy. It's absolute best. So where are you where are you in? Four Agee told me you just move down to Florida, where in Florida because I, I want to move down to Florida. I'm curious where you went. I'm living, actually in Cape, coral and a gated community down here that's near Santa Bill Fort Myers. My right. Is that where the but that's and fifteen twenty minutes on comedy year, you know? Lived in Saint Louis all your life. And just like you know what I gotta get? I gotta get to the Florida. Really, I started in saying Louis, and I would want to California for quite a bit of my career. I always in California for twenty eight years all total. I've been there twice and I was in Saint Louis, I guess I don't know two three four times for work. And this last time I stopped with for years and kind of caught up with my mother. She died and bad reason really stayed is came down here. Love that area. Well, I Iggy I watched that case she documentary. And then, of course, you're, you're history of CAF s and so a lot of our listeners are just fascinated when we get into discussions of Saint Louis radio and your history and Saint Louis radio is, I mean it covers so many eras and then also formats, so the start was case she DJ -ing at night is that correct? Is that how it started for you? Well, I started I started at Keishi in nineteen seventy sixty nine or seventy and I was doing nights on the weekends for two weeks. And then tonight was doing mid days, he, he died, and they gave me the job and I felt I started was doing mid days, and then I did that for three or four or five years and became production director, and the music director and finally program director. And then I got then I, I got our station in Detroit. And was doing both programming both. And, and then I got the station in Los Angeles. And I moved to Los Angeles. I got divorced. I moved to Los Angeles, and we got the station that San Francisco. So I became the national program director sometimes towards the mid seventies and was involved with that for some eight years, or so out of Los Angeles. So I just basically traveled for those eight years to Saint Louis and, and not, not as much to Saint Louis because my boss show like rap and was in Saint Louis. And so it was really Detroit San Francisco out of LA that's a pretty quick rise to go from doing, you know, the, the night shift is a deejay Casey to, you know, being an executive out of Los Angeles my right on that. Well, it seems like a quick. It was it was kind of quick three happened quickly back then FM radio was just kind of getting it started. And we were all feeling our way along. Nobody really had any experience and I happen to know the music well, and all that the Jays kind of knew the music. And you know, I expressed to them an interest in moving up, and that's what I did. So it was like five years, and I was doing overnights for two weeks and the rest of the time days and, and I go ahead and work towards the night and into the into the night doing some production and so forth. And we ended up ended up national PD. Well, in that case she documentary, one of the things that stood out to me that was just so like almost like fantasy land. But I've had John, you would in here, and he's told the story about, I think I think he was talking about Billy Joel dish showing up. That's what it was Pete is. So what story stand out to you, where you guys are in Crestwood, and you're just doing your show? And because it was so important to get airplay for these artists. They would land in Saint Louis, and then head right to case she to try in, in, in get their songs and the records played. So who did you run into? Well, I guess the Billy Joel, an instance, that the John Hewlett, stalking about is probably the one that happened with me. I guess I was an interview with him and he just had his first album out. And these where's it really you know, the Billy Joel, then he was just kind of kind of a up and comer and came into the station. And I interviewed him in the middle of the interview he pass out. It looked to me and I don't wanna put put words in anybody's mouth, but it looked like he was kind of heroin and 'cause it's behaved like that. And he just not it out right there on the air and kind of it was kind of funny and not funny. You know what I mean? That was that was that was warm. I get I guess, I got most of the interviews because I was doing mid days for for a long time. And, you know, the day was with the time these artists had their time off, so they run over the station and back in those days every artist who was any artist at all. They came by Keishi, and they, they were in their don't ask me that the name them all, but because I can't remember them all the two or they all came in there, and it seemed like to me, I got I got most of the interviews that was doing mid days, at least in those times. Yeah. I mean, that's the idea that saying then twenty nine thousand nine looking back on it. Like we're excited if we can get like a beat writer covering the Bruins on, on the show, much less. Have somebody come into studio much less have some of the caliber of artists who came to you guys. It's just so foreign, it's such a. Oren concept in the moment. Bob, where you think in God? This is amazing. This is going on here. You're just like now, this is the way that it that the business works, and I'm, I'm not really overwhelmed by the fact that, oh, there's Billy Joel or take your pick of whoever else is coming by, you know, James Carlton of the Carlton state farm insurance agency is my insurance agent. So this is a first hand endorsement of James Carlton and his staff in Webster. Groves three one four nine six one forty eight hundred or go online at Carlton insurance dot net. I think a lot of people just go Kay. We'll have got a guy. I've got a lady, I'm good. I don't really care to talk about insurance. It's something, you know, I'm twenty five whatever and that's fine. I understand I used to think the same way and then I go down to my basement on March thirtieth of two thousand nineteen in the basements, flooded and the world changes it just so happens because my interactions with James been James have been so positive that my wife and I switched to James Carleton in late twenty eighteen and I'm telling you, if we had not the odyssey that has been a flooded basement throughout all of this precipitation in Saint Louis would have been infinitely more difficult to navigate without somebody is active and on top of it is James Carlton, his phone number is three one four nine six one forty eight hundred or you can go online at Carlton insurance dot net. And even now he's still checks in, you know. I mean it's, it's just a different ballgame. And even before we had that, which, of course, was a substantial issue. You know, we weren't covered on on something right for forgotten to make a payment. It wasn't like it was like some monster payment. It was a small payment. He's like, hey just so, you know, you haven't made this payment would make sure that's taking care of your. Covered. It's just it's, it's different. It's different in a much better way. And that's why you know, if you ran into me at a bar restaurant, and said, hey, you know, and I have had happened. Hey, tim. Who's that insurance agent people Email me, and I go James Carlton here. Let me include him on the on the Email, and I know he's going to be on top. I don't think twice about it sound like I'm like, oh, yeah. Let me tell you about him, and then somebody actually wants to follow up. And I'm like, oh, God. I hope he does. Okay. The best the absolute best, and you're talking about your biggest investments. She wanna make sure they're taking care of properly, James Carlton, and his staff at Carlton state farm insurance agency will certainly do that. Three one four nine six one forty eight hundred or go online at Carlton insurance dot net. If your insurance costs leg and arm called James Carlton stayed. Ron. Wasn't. It wasn't so much the way, the business work that was the only the only thing anybody ever given back then. I mean they FM radio hadn't been around long and one of these artists were, you know, camp new, Jim Bob Seger. And, you know, all these guys they come out of the station, and it wasn't it wasn't like we had anything to compare it to. It just was any volving situation and you mean were pretty used to it. There used to be three or four guys come in their week. I mean the who and Santana, they all stop by everybody that, that was anybody came by the station. So, you know, but at that time, they weren't necessarily, these huge artists that they became as time went on, but they all came by. It was kind of a kind of a thing they had to do, and, and the commotion guys at all bring him out now after the success of Casey in what we talked about with you going on to run. Other stations and move into loss Angeles. You also became the GM of Casey K and turn that into the number one music station in Saint Louis. So you're going from classic rock, and what is still a one of the most signature stations in, in FM, and certainly in Saint Louis in case she and then operating stations out of LA to now, going to adult contemporary, what were the similarities in the strategies you employed. And what were the differences in in, you know altering format. Caisson K. And I love Casey K. I love Casey. I love cagey, because that was kinda my baby. They, they were kind of a kind of an easy listening station more more than than in a fee station when I got over there, and I went king as a program director, and I eventually became GM not, not not too long after I was I was named PD. But you know we, we. Programming. It changed a lot from the time, we were at -cation to we came over there. It was all computerized, and, you know, we had various categories, and it was all done on the computer on, on music program. And so I, I you know, I'm basically diktat the artists and, and the, the songs, and we went from there, it, the station really took off, and it became it became quite, why did deal we did we did various promotions, which made a lot of noise, we band, Madonna. I remember for her sex book, and I thought, up all kinds of ways, we could leaky bring attention to ourselves to newspaper and, and things like that. And and we, we we, we had a stellar staff. I mean, absolutely amazing staff. I had Goodman, Mary Rupak, who was married Carson. In them. I had, you know, could Lord I can't even remember all of them, but they just in the morning show. We had all kinds of people and, and, you know, the guy that food out copter, and all that stuff. You had them all on the morning. So it was it was about, as big a morning show as CAD Cam away ex, but, you know, it's it, it took off, it is just took off and, and the interesting thing, really I you know, I, I managed to, to, to see that through to do quite well. But what was really amazing was cagey K was AM and FM. They were simulcast so they would really broadcasting the same thing on AM as we were on that frequency where you went on, on AM I didn't know that. Well, yes, it was, what k- k AM. And then I went to the owners who outta town and convince them to let me. Try all sports. And I really had a twist on. It was only one all sports station in the country at that time, it was WFAN, I believe was the only sport station. And he said, okay, I'll let you try for a while. And I said, it would kind of fund itself as we went along the station would kind of fund itself. So I would add people were making money and. Because off and we make quite a bit of money with it, it was was, we had everybody in that town that was in sports working at the station. You think you'll find most of the guys that, that are there now at one time or another worth KF an us, the I'm looking at he put together a roster of the names because he said, after all sports ks people that caffeine was born under your leadership. John sloan. Bob ramsey. Mike Claiborne Drome beddis was doing Aram show. Brennan Shanahan doing a hockey show your cardinals in Rams pre and post game show. How tough was it putting together a format? When like you said, there's only one other in the country, and it's in New York City with WFAN you're kind of Lewis and Clark and do some on ventured into frontiers. Well, it wasn't that hard. I mean, I kind of added people as we went I wasn't the guys that own the place to throw a whole lot of money. It. So I had I had developed a sales staff and, and develop the money first, and then I would add pieces than pieces and pieces as well along and most of the guys, the got involved, concede, a in it, and really, really was an, an avenue that they didn't have. And everybody was kinda chomping at the bit to get on. So I, I didn't have any any real problems getting people, and I mean, I had my Bush and everybody that was anybody in sports in that town. I had woken for him run and Channing am bread hall. All these guys were were doing shows for them. The only thing I had a problem with with baseball baseball players. Just didn't come in, in the off season or anything. They really didn't have much to do with it so weird. Because at the deal now it's the exact same deal now really? Yeah. Well, I, I don't know what it is about baseball players. Whether it's really their ego, or what it is. But I'll tell you one thing from my experience, but football guys were pretty good guys. They would come in the off-season drum better with a great guy he had his own show. I put that together with him and, and the the but the greatest players of all where I keep player always. It always the best, and always the most respectful and always always on a great job. And, and these guys, you know, I was really screening. 'cause, you know, call me Mr Bush. Kinda kinda I'm kinda got me, but I tell them, you know, that's up. And you can call me. It really, they really were were a bunch of nice guys, guys, money, co was there and bread hall. And then, of course, Brendan Shanahan they will really, really good, guys play golf with them. And we had a good time. Iggy says you were one of his favourite. He says, I was one of his bosses, and you or one of his favourite bosses. So we're on a special list together and, you know, he's had a lot of bosses Bob. So it's it's a large. Ford sample vote. Wh what kind of boss were you because you are. I mean you obviously let all kinds of different radio stations and in, in Radio Corporation. So what, what did you employ? Because unfortunately, as you're probably well aware, there are a variety of different strategies employed by radio management, and often times it doesn't work. Sometimes some unique personalities get involved in it doesn't work. What did you try to adhere to that made you successful, I think it was it was pretty easy. My from my point of view. I think being fair was was what I probably was known form. Probably why I was well, like 'cause I was was I, I was real fair with all these guys I reestablished the upfront rules and, and it will, and that he followed the rules and you didn't work. There was a simple of that. And I wish you will fail with them. I paid him fair, fair price and the affair salary and, and all the. Guys, you kind of respected that they, they wanted to, to get what the what they were worth and, and I paid them. But I expected a great deal in, in reach on. And I got that pretty much for most of them, not all of them, but, but most of them, and it worked out real well, I mean, I, I, I like to think that I was well liked, but I was I liked the guys that were there. I mean all the guys who worked for me there. I really liked the guys we had some problems. We had some problems, but on the most part, they were all good guys and treat fairly Mark Hanna of evergreen wealth strategies Canepa Cise enough how important it is to have a financial adviser. But then it's not just any financial advisor at somebody who, who knows. But cares you get plenty people. No, but cares Marquette helps everyday people every day, get their finances organized. You can call him at three one four eight eight nine zero. Five zero three that's three one four eight eight nine zero five zero three or go online to evergreen S T, L dot com. His name is Mark. Hanna he is with evergreen wealth strategies and I can tell you from getting to know Mark you're over the last year, that this is my first class person who has your best interest at heart and just calling him at three one four eight nine zero five zero three is gonna make you feel better in your on the right track Mark Hanna, evergreen wealth strategies. Three one four eight eight nine zero five zero three or go online at evergreen ST, L dot com. It now it's more than a quarter century later. Can you believe KFI s is still around in all sports radio? I mean, my God, there's I would imagine at this point, and there's hundreds of them or cross the country. Yeah. There's usually two three in town. I mean city that city big as say Louis is. But I, I don't know. There's there's two there in Maryland. And, you know, there's there's quite a few quite a few in every city. I mean they're taking taking network feeds in smaller cities. So it's, it's interesting. It's it became quite a phenomenon. And, and now it's just the kind of a foregone conclusion you're gonna somebody's gonna ask sports. I'm really to. Curious with, with your knowledge and experience, you know, as I look at it, and I, I've never had anything to do with any music format that I wonder five years, ten years from now, what the viability of music station will be. And then along the lines running parallel again with the experience you have in the all sports fan, Matt format what you think the viability of an all sports format. Because now you have so many young people, they don't even listen to the radio. They're going to just go Cam analysts and on Pandora Spotify. I'll listen I tunes. I it from talk standpoint, I'll listen to podcasts, our audience, even though I'm forty two. You know Jim Hayes is in his fifties, Doug vaughn's in his sixties, our audiences younger in their twenties. And I'll CDs guys show up to our events and I go, how'd you find an AM radio station? You know where where everybody's at least ten years older than you all? It's like a podcast we podcast at all. So I'm curious how these stations will. I don't know if survives the right way, but adapt and somebody who's done it into the successful. You know, career you've. Had bob. I'm curious what you think about it. Well, you kind of answered your own question, there's so many different alternatives for, for music that, you know, the radio is going to have to accept the fact that there, you're, you know, they're, they're not the only source anymore, like they were when I was coming out for they're just they're just one of future choices and they're gonna have to adapt it, and they have at that, that they've cut way back on expenditures. And they don't have. Nobody has a big morning show like I had a case Kate of very few even camel Xs, cut back. So it's, it's a music standpoint. It's a matter of cutting back and, and having having a cohesiveness in terms of all your staff. They have two guys you know, they general managers look, after two three four five stations now, whereas they only look at one and maybe to back in the old days and they just gotta make the most of. Of what they have in order to, to make ends meet as far as the, the talk talk radio is concerned. I've always thought at talk radio would have its place and on the radio, I always believed that because talk radio is something that's very topical very. Now, you know, you listen to music radio doesn't really matter. But, but talk radio is very topical very it's a today. It's what happened in our ago. That's what they're talking about it. Where else are you going to get that local kind of feel? I always felt that the talk radio would last and I'm not saying musically won't last either. But I think talk radio always will have its play I agree. I'm glad to hear you say that I mean obviously, it's what I do. But, you know, I got I was it was a sports anchor came Lovie. And I got out of that fourteen years ago in Mike Bush came in here, and we did interview, and he goes, how did you know? And I go to you mean he goes hog, no. The business was going to change. Go one. I mean how didn't how didn't you? You know, I mean it was obvious what was going happen now? Mike was, of course, you know, primary anchored or instill is different ballgame. I was the weekend anchor came Lovie. It's a you know, different worlds as far as compensation goes. But with so I saw local TV, and I would short that all day long but with talk in my opinion it will still be there. And if anything podcast helped now like Bernie Miklas on opposite me dug in Jim Hayes. And if you want to hear from Ernie, you could still listen later in the day you can listen to us later in the day because of podcast. So if anything, it's like I heard, who was it Kimmel was on with Howard Stern a couple of weeks ago and Stearns, like how come you don't hate Jimmy Fallon and Stephen Colbert? I don't know. It's different now. Because if you wanna watch our shows you can still watch our shows on YouTube in Stearns, like, yeah. I guess when I was on, you know, I'm up against Imus. I'm up against whomever and I gotta get everybody that I can. And so the mindset of radio wars is changed because the content is available whenever you want it. Well, that's, that's something that's, that's obviously come along, pretty much the podcast and those kind of faith team when I was really kind of in the twilight of my career there were podcast and so forth. But I question is to at question as to how many people you're really gonna get tuning in on a regular basis to a podcast podcasts? Have never been to my knowledge. They've never absorb a great deal of the broadcast audience. That's available out there. They do they do get some. They do get it regularly. But it's, it's, it's kind of a small sample of of, you know, aside from the big guys, you know, the big guys it gets a lot of sampling. It's not that much, not that big a deal as far as I know right now. I, I've had people say, I do the radio show, and then I do the podcast and people say, why don't you just take your shows? Percent podcast. And I said, well, the way I the only way I can explain it without actually getting into the numbers, of course. I know the numbers in my head on the advertising revenue is, if we all agree that acts is our annual revenue. How much of acts would come over if we were strictly podcast in my estimation, which is, of course, arbitrary is it best thirty three percent and thirty three percent of X isn't going to get it done. So at least for the time being radio has to be part of of the game plan. I just don't know of podcast will replace talk radio, or if it will just kind of run as a, a niche for, you know, people to do additional work. I don't I don't know. You know, I think podcasts I think will. Will will last and they are. But they can't be as topical as radio can I mean if something happens in the world of sports right now. You get it on the radio. Light guys cover it. Everybody covers it. Hey, under that on podcast. You may cover it and cover it later. But people are really going to want to hear about it, that are really interested in, in a blue trade. But immediately going to the radio or else, they're going to go. See and that's and that's why I think the viability for talk radio is there. I really do think that's the case. The music music Ellen. I agree the music of element of it. I don't know how they I, I really don't know how they'll, they'll adapt on this Brian Kelly's, the home loan expert, and he is the sponsor of our studios here on the Tim mckernan show without him. We don't have a podcast, so make sure you're supporting our sponsor, Ryan Kelly, the home loan expert dot com, and with interest rates dropping and this being home buying season. This is a. Prime time to get in and get yourself a great rate and lock in or if you want to refinance, now's the time to do so Ryan, Kelly's, the person to do it with he is online at the home loan expert dot com. Ryan Kelly the studio sponsor of this program Ryan Kelly, the home loan expert dot com now, this is a fun fact that I didn't know Iggy of course with the thorough notes. Now I have no idea. If you wanted somebody said, hey, Tim, could you talk to you about your ex-wife I'd go? Yeah. That's probably not something I can do. I can show you the divorce decree if you'd like it's not allowed, but you were married to Michelle Phillips Iggy goes, you gotta ask him about it, and I go, I don't know if I want to ask him about it, but I'll ask and you can say yet, let's not talk about it. So I'm asking about it. And you can tell me Tim don't talk about. Everybody always asks about that, Michelle. Yes, I was I was married to her for. I guess four years three and a half four years. We were together. And she fact yesterday was both day. I talked to all the time we're good. Friends and China Phillips or the her daughter, and my stepfather, I guess, we we'd been fairly close talked to three times a week, text and so forth. So I remain very, very close than the intertwined with that family. In fact, last summer, I went out to Craig Lambert, who's a little promo guy. And I stayed in his house while he went to when we went to Italy, and I had Michelle come up and the kids, come down from Santa Barbara, and we all had a great time. So Michelle is a great gal. She's, she's a seventy five she had a birthday Esther day. And I'm sure if she was was here, she sent you all her pets. How about the how'd you guys meet you meet back in the radio days. I su-. That, that would stand to reason. Yeah. Wow. It was it was kind of a kind of an interesting story. I was in a why Christmas one year and we in some guy's record promotion. Guys Billy pass and we Anderson, some of those guys and roll over there and staying in the Royal Hawaiian, and we had a big, big giant sweet and one of the guys was paying for the whole thing. Mark craner. We had had a big hit record into that. They had some by reality yells it. And he paid for everything these. You know whatever having a good time we're there for a week and we met pop raison who was her manager. And, you know, Bob ask Ray Anderson and myself if we would mind when we got back me getting together with Michelle. She had a solo career going and, and was having I guess, a couple of roadblocks, and they wanted to see what we devise them what we buy shirt now. So when I got back we said, yeah, we got back and Bob called. And he said, he was on his way. Well, we'd have cell phones then. So I couldn't couldn't say no which is kind of inclined to do that. I had a girlfriend, but so he showed up and we went and I don't know the rest is kinda history. Like it, though. I like it, though. Final question considering you've done it all if somebody were not just looking to get into radios because the on air thing I feel those questions, you're, you're enjoying yourself in Florida. I'll keep fielding those questions and give people essentially caveat them tour of they're going to want to get into on your radio especially in two thousand nineteen or on Aaron sports casting in general. But as far as operating a radio station because I have done that in a limited capacity advice, you would give somebody because you've done it, and you've done it successfully. What would you say from the business side of radio advice you would give people? Frugal. So good that the so so good. I mean, that's what you've got to look at it radio's change so much you've got to look at where every way you can to cut every nickel you can, and you better have a good sales staff to plan better. About the best, I could do as far as I'm telling you something. I'm glad to hear it though because all debts confirmation bias because that's exactly what I think, is. Well, so coming from you that means a lot. Bob, thank you so much, especially when you're hanging out and relaxing for joining us here on the program really enjoyed the conversation. My pleasure to take it easy. Thanks, bob. So there it is, Bob Birch here on the Tim mckernan show telling his stories of his experiences in the radio industry. And then also as we wrapped up there, how he wound up being married to Michelle Phillips and still in touch, and on. Good terms with her as well. 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#WeAreUnited 's Andrew Cooper

"Guys WanNa, tell you about something new I've launched a patriotic count patriot dot com slash. Andrew Bramsen people asked about getting more content. More insight more information from me, and now available through various tiers if you're able to join on Patriots Dot Com. You can get shout outs from me. You can get the business of sports podcast transcripts can get ask Andrew questions, weekly newsletters, all kinds of ways to interact with me including. A monthly conversations not whatever you WanNa talk about jobs in the sports industry breaking into sports. It's all available now on patron dot Com Andrew Brandt. If you're able, please join select your care and be able to have further content interruption with me Adrian Dot com slash Andrew Brandt will be joined. This week on the. podcast I really wanted to dive into what's going gone in college athletics. There's so many angles go through here and ask you record this on Monday afternoon the tenth we're not sure exactly what's going to be happy. With a college or to college football with the big ten yes. No, we don't know if they're gonNA play. Their couple movements going on I. Really wanted to sort of see in the movement and talk to them. In one of the movement's is we are united. There's also we want to clay. I WanNa hear about it. And in my reading I saw, Andrew Cooper mentioned homer runner cal, a current runner cal or athlete from university Washington. State University. And then loan behold Bandara who saw a follow on twitter and I reached out so ramone Andrew to another welcome to the podcast entered Cooper. Thank you so much for having me Andrew, phenomenal name I, saw appreciate you taking the time and energy to find me on twitter in reaching out I'm excited to have this conversation. Let's start at the beginning. The one thing I saw about you what is your one of the leaders in this PAC twelve moon? But I did see an article that said you don't WanNA call leaders. He really just talking about organization getting athletes. Involved how when is your how you got involved with the movement is? Goal. Side. Yes. So I got involved with movement till I I when I got connected with balancing Deltona was offensive Lineman at cal and his permit. Jake Kerr Him who is also also could friendly with the time. They reach out expressing concerns regarding returned to campus ovid protocols, how that was being handled, and they wanted to put out centralism defense to prove the health and safety standards. And they wanted to that out. Three or four days at the. Rally July fifth or six. And then. Like that day, we started to see a tidal wave of the players tweeted. that. They deserved better. Essentially, and it was unique to me to see players using your voice not fashion. His you know one of the issues in college sports is that players don't feel they have a voice. and so two Steve Football players using their voice go to twitter speak out for what they believed was right. We considered expanded scope of our goals to clued up addressing racial injustice and economic rights and technical sports. So those are the goals of the Movement for united. And really the reason why I've been associate myself so different because this has been football player lead driven from the beginning I have been providing counselling guidance row. Formerly de Sack co-president sack is sort of the official voice of Athletes and so in that role, I have a horrible past of serving. It's representing. President Washington State, the co-president Your cal Berkeley That's really how it started with Jake Balan. Unity's everything yrant. So putting the players of the forefronts, really important to us and also adamant any individual leader there is no individual leader. That's Really, what it is, the goal is to start open. To get players unified behind a simple concept that unity is everything. And you're an athlete at Washington State about your tracking cross country runner. Graduated there Washington State two, thousand and nineteen, and then transferred to cow you continue to run they're pursuing a masters degree. You just mentioned you're involved in Washington State, and now audit cal. So this has been sort of a mission view and you see progress since your time Wazoo. Absolutely. So read my personal story, my pressure washing state right at the beginning. My Dad had a heart attack. And it really made me grapple with this question. Why am I invested so much until running? Why is this whole passion will focus? And? Over the course of the next year began to discover purpose myself that was greater in a lot of to. Helping athletes and advocacy on Emma Tyler Alinsky died by suicide Camp Smith saw. How affected? Our family or community I felt called to action. Use My privilege as someone who gone through that grief to really stand up and help others and so as an advocate, I've been trying to help athletes broadly. In any Paseo last four years really. Sorry one thing I think you said, it really struck me, and this is for lexicon out there about through athletes is that worth through? You want to change that tells about. So the term student athlete. Was Really. Invented by Walter Byers the Executive Director NC Double A. in the fifty s before color sports was as popular. Widely seen on television dissidents today. The term was invented after about I don't feel his widow sued se AA. And for Workers Compensation and really an effort. In that or case ages came up with the term student athlete in what's buyers has written about that in his memoir since then won't he said, we drafted the term student athlete to avoid in workers not fish. And the impact of that decision. Is really cemented a pseudo legal mechanisms, divest college athletes of Basic Economic Rights that are afforded to all Americans. Tell me Andrew where you guys were the we are United Movement. In. Calling Movement. What are you looking to get? What are you looking to accomplish movement? So, Burston? Foremost. To establish that college. Have the. Capacity. And the power to. So To simply have conversations with each other to have. These conversations with other football players with other athletes to hear each other's stories. Unit that's how we achieve unity unity is everything. More immediately. A safe working environment and so. You know. We want to mandate health and safety enforcements that. Are, uniform across conferences central. So in the PAC, twelve became really apparent to us that although Stamford as an example, they feel quite confident in how their institution is handling their open protocols but. Other schools weren't doing that and so it just became obvious that. you know you're only as strong as your weakest link and so there's one school that's not doing a good job. It doesn't matter. It's going to it's going to a negative impact on the tear conference and so when we met with Larry Scott essentially. Wanted Answers regarding. It became will Larry. Scott needed immediate clear immediately clear. We cannot mandate anything across twelve schools. And I was very concerning to hear titlist. So. Immediately want to play, but we want to do so safely. and this is also only the first step in achieving a players association that can adequately represent the best interests all. They could take us inside if you will andrew that meeting with. With Larry Scott, the commissioner of the pectoral. Again I've been in business for too long time I know how hard it is to have those meetings even for executive staff meeting let alone students. So tell us how you got the meeting how was received what your sense was on how things were going once you're in that room. So I think it's important to get a little bit of context. So route transpired. So on Sunday, you know eight days ago we released our statement of unity our demands Players Tribune. and. The. Shortly. After that, you know the day day we sent a letter to the commissioner all athletic director saying we want daily needs to make progress on these issues at hand. So we can work together make progress on them and create an environment that people feel safe to compete. It's afford is to us. And that that meeting really that negotiation was Larry Scott. Do you director Mark Carlin and the Arizona State Art Burger. And Ray Anderson and you know going into meeting we just wanted to initially outline are issues from our perspective and then have an open discussion or shield related to the issues at hand So, we had a few people discuss racial injustice. Few people discuss the economic injustices a few people discuss the cove, the lack of Covid or does that we Whitney sooner our campus? and. The. Tenor. Shifted. White abruptly. When Larry. Scott told, Nick forward. WHO's the Utah Football Player. Wants to be a doctor in his on the path of becoming a doctor and. He told Nicole. You're talking out both sides of your mouth. When Nick said, he feels safe working out in a gym but doesn't feel safe tackling people info call during this pandemic. and. That you know essentially resulted in. Larry in his temper A. Good ample times throughout the minute I won't plant. Sorry I got heated so. Really, we never got past health and safety got like we couldn't even have a productive discussion about safety. And then the media following out. Essentially, issued a statement that was this was a productive conversations was good. Steps move over this discussion. but that was starkly different from the reality at end so. We felt the need to. Collectively, write a letter. And, send it to him issue essentially voice in our frustration needed more. We wanted student forwarded. Daily of. The denied our bus for daily Mittens and we ask for a lawyer President intermediates and they denied that request as well. That time has there been communication after they deny further discussion whether through an attorney or not. So I don't think so. I haven't done anything since. Then meeting and by the way was that zoom. Zoom has become the staple of everything now. So after that assume That was Thursday late Thursday evening. Late Friday evening we wrote our letter and sentenced to that. and then the letter became public. And then. Sunday. The, world. Flipped on his head is Trevor Lawrence tweeted a graphic. Right. and Are you guys. Your group in the packed well connected. To we want to play play. And we need the group that Justin feels Lawrence and others are tweeting out is there a connection there? That's why the graphic was. Yesterday. Yesterday late afternoon, I guess evening on the East Coast yesterday evening. The leaders of the we wants to play movement and will really. I think the most influential college football players in the country and leaders in our movement came together and had a discussion about our goals in what we wanted to achieve the issue that Amnon. Everyone agreed with each other. We didn't have a voice we didn't have representation we didn't have. Uniform Health and safety mandates we didn't have a players association and we weren't using voice and our of our voice to stand up for what was right. And you know I I received a phone call from. Dylan Stanford the you're just saying he's like huge development explained it to me. And then we got our group together in Dallas odds. Out of Washington state. As. He likes as he said, twenty minutes to save the world to make the graphic essentially with the goals uniting ASHTEC's. We sent trevor. and. It was on twitter within like five seconds. Tell me again who designed that. Alice Dallas OPS. So he he plays football Washington state US. One of the players that was one with cassidy was dismissed from the team essentially or supporting the movement and it was. It was the clear. He wasn't actually best but. The way the coaches framed, it made him. Believe they use dismissed initially and it was only after really receiving public pressure quite frankly did Nicole Digital department backpedal on their statements and say, no, he has scholarship protecting still on the team and so. The reaction that role of Chad is exactly why players were frayed of using their voice to begin with. and so Dallas is incredible. individual he helped him in castaways both co founded the blacks now played association at Washington, State along police parts and who say women's soccer player there. And they're just outstanding college athletes that deserve. Better from their institution deserve more or. in so. Yeah Dallas Nelson dismissal throughout this whole process if you made art graphics as well so us is the graphics with. I mean that's great to to see from obviously A. Expensive Profile of Lawrence and I believe the present night states retweeted that orange as well. It's at a is that ABS- designed? Followed Support Andrew wanted to drill down again on what be and I don't WanNa. Come demands unless that's a word you WANNA news. Wet requests what the game plan is for the movement. is, their revenue demand is there a health and safety demand other than general increased health and safety around COVID and round? concussions and things like that. So. First and foremost given the timing of of sports happening now. The number one goal is to unify behind uniform health and safety mandates. Not, guidelines that mandates that are actually enforceable within enforcement mechanism of some sort. Dot Org number one. Mandates coming from where the conference. Every conference has been doing. A conference only play essentially. A each conference has to be able to. Guaranteed that and show that there are some sort of uniform mandates. That are being followed because it's one thing to set a guideline. And another thing for the institution to follow that. And so as we discovered immediately detect while and as sure as aware now, two trevor, Lawrenson. Their their squad. If your school is doing great, it doesn't really matter. Different school isn't. And so we need to ever wants to be on the same page about these things and the only way that that's going to be able to happen is if an institute gated. Like a players association that can. Help. For the best interest of athletes. Because, there's been in touch with Houma and the NCAA at currently exists. Jaramogi has helped provide. Information. And guidance throughout. The organizing processing to answer questions that we have about. And that? A union. Situation you're looking at or you're talking about organizing something separate. So unionization. Of. College Sports. Is. Unfavourable giving the labor laws that existed in America? Yeah. Covered the northwestern situation. So as you're familiar, you know the difference between public and private institutions and national versus local labor laws. It's. Is Not favorable because you want uniformity in sports right and so. Really the reason why? The. NBA and NFL have antitrust exemptions is because The NFL bargains with the NFL PA. The NBA bargains with the. and. Excuse me. There's no. Negotiation mechanism between players in his solutions in college athletics and there needs to be. It's were not at the point where we can just ignore these issues and more there needs to be an entity, the accident best interests of athletes As I said unionization is not a path but. These schools are capable in these conferences are capable voluntarily recognizing players association and agreed to terms with that players association nor Really WanNa forefront is unity. And being unified behind health and safety. but also just being unified behind. The broad concept that college athletes deserve better. Economic demand that I see something about one fifty percent of revenues from athletics. So. Excuse me in our initial. The initial terms that we lay forward. were. Highly comprehensive. And we wanted to make a statement show. What are worth values. and. So it didn't take long for US bigger out that in professional sports, there's a fifty fifty split. And so it's more for is more something is a goal for us to work towards. not-so-subtle short, not to sell herself short with a five percent revenue. Is As you know, you don't want to leave anything on the table as you enter negotiations Brad. And so. Is More of a starting point and I think what? 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If College or If the season is canceled. Everything that we are advocating or still stamps. All of these things needs to be met still. Like. Players deserve a voice. I think what we've? What's happened? What happened last night? Is. It ended the chapter of players not having a voice. Anymore. Now. We're in a new era of college sports. Were players have a voice they're using it. And they are telling the world that we deserve rights. But with even a Trevor Lawrence in Preston fields tweet these things out. Presidents say it's too risky. TOO risky with covert. Has that voice worked. I mean they. They still shutout squirt. Obviously. There's room -cations economically but. I guess the question is, what are they? Why do you say that? Why has has that one? Erin serving another Because, players have never used their voice like this. and. I don't think that financial. Incentives should ever be prioritised above the health and safety at students. And It kind of seemed like it was going that direction has. These institutions released new schedules not and delayed meeting with us and really failed to answer. Really any of our questions or concerns relating to return to play. And when you're player trying to decide if you're going to play sports, you're not compensated There's no students on campus your. At. A high risk of. Negative impact from the disease because you have a high body mass index and the predominant workforce in college sources black. And so you know Kogo defects, black athletes. I believe four times rate higher than white or black people. Sorry. At a rate four times higher than that. Of White People. And so. When that's the reality, the landscape that you're in and you can't even guarantee that it's going to be the same safety protocols across the conference on Women's speech for the PAC twelve at the moment. It's An unfavorable proposition to give athletes especially when their eligibility isn't even protected. There's no, there's still no eligibility protective So they if they could potentially be opting out or scholarship is protected, but they could be opting out and just lose this year of eligibility. So. To a lot about this, they want that extra year and they can't really make a decision. Until, they're given that and they also can't make the decision because they don't even know what they're opting into. Not In. It has not been made clear. What it is that we want to opt into what isn't this right? Like what? Questions that they have answered. So if presidents do make that decision, it means it's the right decision and it's one that they should have made a long time ago because you know I think that the PAC twelve they just released their new schedule. It's obvious apparent that they had every intention moving forward with football season. until. Players raise their voices in concern of mood. Policies. It only highlights why players in all college athletes deserve an entity that represents the best choice. In beclere do you think this advocacy is causing leaders has college football to question whether they have a sport or now? To question whether they played season. Yeah I mean you're saying that scheduled around everything seems fine and then the advocacy groups come up like yourself and now we're wondering if if they're going to have performed. So Do you think your movement has created doubt in the minds of leadership about whether even the half college? Football? Absolute, I mean I'm on the Cross Country Team Right now, and they have zero answer stress regarding. I coach doesn't know anything about one coming back or anything no they say that they're all these guidelines, but they're not explaining to us how they're actually going to enforce mandate is so that people actually follow them. I think the pressure is on right now. In. These questions have been asked for a long time slot like these came out of nowhere, right? No, they have had ample time as the big ten set. They have had ample time. To. Make these guidelines mandates to show US WHY Returning to play can be saved and the only been able to answer the question of is it safe? and if they can't question that can only lead us to believe that it's not safe. How, do you respond to them the economics question and I guess I know everybody jumps on you know these these these have water slides and. You know in Davos winning makes ten million Knicks David make coal mine a year. But there is an economic issue I saw the MAC canceled football the MAC. In, one of their big issues as we can't afford the testing, we just can't afford it. We don't have the money protesting. Does that resonate with you that when when the school say we don't have the economics and the second part of that question. Is something I know you'll push back against and I wanna hear it is decide either that non revenue sports like one urine. Will be negatively impacted. With more money, put into these sports like football. So, test the first part of the question. The money has been going up every year. And I know in the PAC twelve specifically, they pulled in five, hundred, forty million in the most recent fiscal year. And I believe the big ten pulled in like specifically. I believe four years ago. The big ten pulled in five, hundred, thirty nine. And so in the last. Four years. Packs twelve has increased the revenue. I believe one, hundred, fifty to two hundred. And so. The operating expenses have not increased I believe beyond set if you exclude salaries. The money is getting put somewhere in his being spence. In, my eyes You know as students studying this in writing my master's thesis on his stomach inequities, sports. It seems white obvious to me that the NC Double Anna's member institutions are overspending to create the impression that they are worthy of their nonprofit status that they're worthy of not paying taxes. And this question of should these athletes be paid as always been the wrong question my eyes. Should be, should these institutions be held to the same standard as other institutions in America? And when Your Business Lose money and I think we're on a business shows, it's a business I think you've acknowledged that when your business loses money still pay your workforce. Right like that's not something we tolerate. In America like if you can't afford to be in business, you shouldn't be in the business that and so with Cova specifically if you can't afford it if you can't create a safe work environment. Than you shouldn't be putting these athletes in position like Larry. Scott told us in the mid if you don't feel safe than opt out and go hall. Well, it should. The burden shouldn't be on the players to make that decision. Regarding their health and safety like if you're going to be creating an environment that's been be profiting off of the Labor of these athletes. That environment should be safe for them to work and is why a lot of people are still working from home because the liability. Is too great for this employers at a specific moment. Now. Whether we should be returning player not during this endemic. I think that the government should do their job and make that decision earlier. Given their local ordinances of where they're at on because it's different everywhere. regarding the second question this. Are Non Revenue Sports. I run cross country and track. And, there's this is myth. That name image likeness would only benefit a small handful of athletes on campus. But I can say with all certainty. That is a subpar cross country. Runner could start a camp in Milo hometown in Seattle and make a couple thousand dollars off during the summers and I'm currently not allowed to because of the workplace. Alice can't make money out is designed company. Because of the names likeness rules in place and so because amateurism is just like shut the gate on business opportunities for athletes. I think we're really not even. Aware of how many out this would benefit from these economic rights I deeply believe the economic rights protections. Football players is economic rights and protections for all athletes. In the more unified, we are alike there we are to protect all sports because it shouldn't be the athletes who are punish. For. Negligent spending of these institutions. So to me. Women. Specifically would benefit tremendously. Name image likeness rights and revenue sharing. Because East Women's sports are much more incredible than we realize I, went to the I. Wish I was wearing the shirt right now but I want the. A. Women's final four soccer championship this year and it was a phenomenal environment. It was incredible. stadium was packed via stadium in San Jose mls stadiums packed there were you know dozens of food truck benders I mean if you've actually attended any of these women's events, you know they are popular there. Women's Women's softball. In NCW makes more money across the board than baseball. Like there is money that is not being granted to women chilly because they don't have isis economic breads and unfortunately in America. In College colleges, the highest level of sport that. Ilbo to these women and so to me, it's A, we're doing the women great disservice by not giving them access the same economic bride since everyone else all all athletes deserve it quite frankly. Of cutting non revenue or than I think the ones that promotes risk are men's non revenue or arts. Because of what you said about women's sports and because the title nine. I mean as you and I joked before Stanford Guy. Guy On the same screen. That's okay. I live with Aaron Rodgers for ten years so I get it. Almost. Tumultuous limits, tuition yeah. Brad speaking of Stanford just Kinda of sports. and. You know eleven sports. Now we got mailings from Stanford about yeah. We had thirty six. That's the most and then she had division one, we have it down. But this is not unique all over the country. It seems like men's baseball men's wrestling squash rowing crew. They're all at risk right now I know which related to cope it out of no actually escalating costs with football and basketball. But this is something where I just wonder. If a movement like yours requires more economic inputs. into whatever. That these other sports could be at risk just raising the question. While I think it's you know a reallocation of funding. First off Stanford as an example. Stanford's got twenty seven billion dollar Dowman. For them to just say we don't have the money I think is ludicrous because these athletic department we we often liked isolate them put them in. A, you know not beneath the purview of universities, but the reality is they're part of the University Department of the University of the university has funds to afford the. Sports the endow the easiest place look as the endowments, but the way that money is spent on salaries can be reconsidered The way that funds are distributed by the conference can be redistributed, and so I only hope that we begin a open discussion between athletes and his institutions to figure out how can we do this financially feasible manner that protects. Because all options needs to be on the tape. You know for Stanford to say, we don't have the money and they have the one of the largest documents in the country. To meet appears as how does that make you feel as? Yeah with upsetting and as I said, we kinda demanded answers at least some of us in terms of inquiry to provost. And that was the gist you know that was one of the upkeep, the rest of the company, but he kept talking about. We were number one in division one in terms of number of sports thirty, seven or thirty six. Now. We're down to twenty five, which is still up in the higher level events. Hey, division one mathematics so. You're right. You know as an alum, it's frustrating to see some of those get cut and it's frustrating as someone in the businesses sports to see these programs cut around the country. Really. Yeah I mean listen I understand is big business that's my expertise I. Just want to understand economics college sports better I'm at Villanova now. where I run a sports loss where it's business program and I'm aware that we have twenty five sports and only one. Men's basketball makes money. and it has to carry some of expenses for some of the other sports but. You know we have a football program that doesn't make any money and it costs a lot of money but we football's important I do. Anyway I. WanNa wrap. was also sorry to add onto this points or we also have division two and division three sports. The like. This idea that you need to make money to have sports I think. You Know University's decided sports are important on this so we should. Now, what this is doing those it's opening up. The can of worms so to speak on our universities spending their money. because. You know it doesn't stop at sorts. It goes to our faculty members getting paid. How who has decision making power over what other governments do and you know my experience election stating cal Berkeley sort that. That firm exists only outside of anything to do with the university and financially that's just not the reality. Of how university. In. So universities exists serve their students. And they often choose to spend money and lucid so that these players have opportunity play, there's also. You know. Tuition being brought in by these not revenue sports. So if you have someone museum example I'm GonNa. Walk. I, have a loan. You know tuition. You know the school is making money off me like a lot of ask these pay money to go to school and. When we ignored that elements of the conversation it gets us into much muddier waters but I think quite frankly the money is there. Yeah Yeah I mean I, read an article early on and all this about schools would be better off adding sports to make money than than dropping sports because they get a lot of people like you that our students. but I suppose they think we pay student special place like San. We. Can get open students and not. Not have these expensively sports. Because everyone wants to come here so. That's a conversation for another day but Andrew I wanNA. Let you go I want to again where are we now commissioner Larry Scott Group at ten twelve and your grew I know where we left it was not thrilled about the meeting and apologize. For some of his anger. But as we sit here today now days after the meeting on August ten. and. The whole world is kind of. Questionable. Whether even going to have conflict football ten other places. Where are we now? We are waiting or Larry's nuts response we are waiting or the PAC twelve oaks show leadership. Conference champions which. In our letter, we say this is. this conference has a proud history, but this is not a proud moment. I believe. This conference as some of the most incredible athletes. People that I've ever met will ever meet my life. but every single day that we don't address these issues, we are putting our communities at greater risk of this disease in this pandemic and we need to work together but our differences aside to make progress on these things then we want to meet with them daily and they just. Don't want to others so. We have no answers. From. The Commission in the conference and You, we are still seeing the ramifications of the bomb Trevor Lawrence dropped on twitter yesterday. and. You know this is Dave I didn't know any of this been happened yesterday. So I don't know what's going to happen tomorrow. I think we're all we're all trying to figure that out. What if if last question, what if Larry Scott Stonewall and just sit now? Thanks I'm glad we met. Here's what we're doing. We're going to hit or football. And no guidelines for opt-outs. What happened. Just go ahead with ball like we've been pretty clear that we have over four hundred and fifty players that feel I've way, and that's only the numbers you know that doesn't even show the implicit support. So if they go this day, we're going to have football you know. That's That's a can of worms while doesn't want to open but. I think it would be wholly negligent if they did that is would be way too unsafe and I think that the schools would be held liable for the damages if they did. You guys have legal representation. What we asked Larry if we could have lawyers president future meetings and he said, no so. Not Answer also. And keep in touch on US and. Yeah I mean this is. This is really interesting to me. It's a player empowerment edition. You guys have done something. Bold and I don't think it's over state to say historic. So I was glad to get you on to talk about. And that's truly a compliment coming from you and. All of your expertise background in this space. So I'm thankful for you in the work that you. I appreciate you for having me on. Thanks Andrew Good luck to you. Thank you. Thank you day by hope you enjoy that. We'll see what comes out of it. We'll see what comes out of college football, but I interesting to sort of listen in on what happened meeting between these students. Using their own sense of empowerment to try to meet and instill change in. Now they've got trevor. Lawrence tweeting about it. They're trying to use it at the highest levels and maybe we're onto something here. This could be historic as I said on the PODCAST. And that'll do it for this week's edition of the business of Sports with Andrew Brenick College Sports Edition. College football player empowerment, and beyond we are united we WANNA play. Let's follow it. Appreciate all these. Follow me on twitter at Andrew Brandt. Reshaped my producer extraordinaire Brian Neal musical producers, Sam Brandt. 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August 15th, 2020- Scott Howard, Scooter Molander, Juan Roque and Kelsey Dickerson

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August 15th, 2020- Scott Howard, Scooter Molander, Juan Roque and Kelsey Dickerson

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We are back for another Edition. Welcome everybody. Hope everyone's having a great week another Hot Weekend here in the Valley of the Sun Vince. Everybody's just trying to stay cool right now. I think my friend temperatures over one ten for the past week and it's going to continue that way at least until next weekend. I think so. Yeah and what's what's well what's special about it is we've had more days over a hundred ten degrees in the him. Three of Phoenix then then it has been recorded in in Prior year. So it's a kind of a big deal. But also that humidity is just slowly starting to creep up a little bit. So it makes it a little bit less bear month. So it's not so much a dry heat anymore. But anyway, so James, how're you doing my friend? How's your week been? I'm doing good. How about you my man? I'm doing good. It's been a busy week. The kids are getting ready to come back to school next week at work. And so we had to get a lot of last-minute things done and new students entered into the system and all that sort of thing. So get them ready to go for Monday. And so Monday is d day and we just been getting ready for that. So it's nice to have a couple days off here before we get cracking with school next week. How about you? Yeah same here in the delisio household a little bit of drama here last couple of days. So oh so I I'm told that I snore home. And so and then I have sleep apnea so are performed and at home sleep study last night. Oh, yeah, so no. Well, no Cheryl taste. She she does take me snoring dog. Just proof and I keep telling her that that me but anyway, so I did a sleep study. I slept horribly had some things connected to me and everything all around my body. And and so I'll be home at this time next week. I'll be well rested with a brand new CPAP machine will see. Oh good. Good. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, it's very important but it is almost certainly so those are when you're busy guy like yourself. Oh, well, that's it the movers and shakers, you know, I mean, that's how we roll but you know outside of that not much else going on, you know. We've we've heard some news here last couple of days on you know, High School fall Sports and some things going on Phoenix Union High School District just reported that they are going to deliver a the start of their seasons and and it's not a complete postponement. They said they are watching the metrics the the the dashboard on help James. What do you do with yourself difference? I did a little multicam sir. Oh my gosh. So you guys at home watching on YouTube or get get the privilege of seeing James here with his multi-camera. Look there. That's awesome. I know we do it from home. That is amazing. So so you've heard about these metrics these Dash boards here. And and so what they are is there these these metrics that the state has put together for schools recommendation. What have you that you know, if you have less than 10 cases per 100,000 less than 5% positivity then then they they say it is safe to purchase. Feed with activities. So right now in Maricopa County and most of the State of Arizona looks like we're still over a hundred cases per 100km, you know over 10% off. So they're they're they've asked and they've recommended within at least within the Phoenix Union High School District to kind of tailor back and and not do anything for now. They haven't ruled out with having fall Sports altogether just yet but they're watching those key metrics now, so our fingers are crossed that you know that we can get those numbers down we continue to to be safe in in you know, how we social distance and and you know where that mass can be out there and and just be careful watch those hands and if you have a compromised immune system obviously stay home, but we you know, we're optimistic that our young people can get out there and and stay active. Well, yes and you mentioned things you in high school district as of right now, it's simply postponed or delayed or they're kind of in the wait-and-see mode. Right now not not officially all done with all sports yet. But a lot of colleges to events announcing that they're moving things to the spring. I wanted to get your thoughts to specifically on the Pac-12 since you had quite a relationship with Arizona State University. What do you think about them? Not only you know, if it affects you of a as well, but ASU and a number of those schools in the Pac-12. I don't know. I'm I'm just thought you know, I I don't I just feel like I do have opinions but I'm afraid if I express them. I don't know we're not going to be on the air next week. So I got to be extremely careful with that sure, you know, you lead a horse to water. I mean my gosh, you know, if you're going to do it do it, you know in other words. So if you plan forces you do all these things, you know do it and if it means limit of who you have in your Stadium how many people out there testing them? Like for example, James I met up with you this week at the Jujitsu Center over there where your kids go and the first thing they did what do they do with? And you walk in the door. They don't let you go any further than the entrance of the door because they do what temperature check temperature check when I walked in I had walked in I parked my car in the shade about a hundred miles down from from birth guys look like they hold these classes. So, you know, it was a hundred fifteen outside I go in she checks my temp. She goes out your temp is too high and I'm like, yeah, I know because it's hundred fifteen. She said wait 5 minutes. We'll check it out sure enough five minutes came by temperature was fine. I was able to proceed so, you know, there's things you can do now obviously on the other side of that you gotta be extremely careful. Hi, Cheryl. He said she's trying to be you know, we don't have some fancy, you know room like you do. Oh god. Oh man. So Saving Grace morning. Yes. So anyway, long story short when I was getting at is the fact that you know, you you can make projections. You can kind of see how things go, but there's also other things you can log. You to to be careful. I you know, I don't know I you know, that's why we sit in our chair and they sit in there is because obviously they're closer to the situation. So I don't know James anyway. Yeah, it's dead. I would say it's above my pay grade fences. What the heck is no one really asks you have but you know, there's there's precautions in place for a number of schools and a number of programs and I was talking with a gentleman yesterday, you know, if if you're able to isolate the issue obviously done it very successfully down in Orlando in the bubble for the NBA after able to isolate some people somewhat maybe not completely isolate them, but there's some sort of degree and if those people in that group or page that so-called bubble if you will if they don't have Percent and and it and so I don't know. Where are we going to be a month from now? Where are we going to be a week from now? I all I know is that I have three teens at home. I am three high schoolers and their and as I'm in manage your kids are a little young so they gotta be going stir-crazy. We you know, and these are Uncharted Territory for for all of the above and and we just gotta be careful gotta be careful. But we you know at the same time we spoke to live and and in in do things and just do it safely. Yes. Exactly. We got Cheryl against that are necessary and then it's going to be tough. I'll be honest with you because I thought we had a couple of events at the school over the past couple of weeks where we had to have some kids come on campus and parents and so forth and to keep that social distancing. It's it's tough, especially when it's a hundred fifteen outside and you can't hey would you mind waiting outside for a few minutes? You know, I know it's a hundred twenty output. We're trying to keep everybody apart. It's it's a tough line to walk but we've got to walk it for sure. Yeah, and we both of us have spoken to coaches out there High School. Just all over that that are mixed that that have perspectives on both ends. But for the most part they they feel like, you know, their kids need to do something. They gotta do something but when the season starts when they they feel it should start it's all over the map. So I you know, yeah some districts are aligning things with with whenever in person school starts and and off with some sort of formula. So we'll just have to kind of hang on and wait and see and say a few prayers in the meantime, but we got a big show coming up today events. We're going to be talking with a couple of High School coaches and the second segment coach scooter mole and vole the East Mark Firebirds, and yes. Howard from the Fords Gophers. They'll be squaring off. Hopefully fingers crossed again during one of our Thursday Night Football matchups, and they were going to speak with speaking of ASU All-American Juan Roque is going to join us and give us a little information on ASU football and then final segment today. We'll be joined by our friend Kelsie Dickerson from the Arizona Humane Society and then we'll get a few updates from home. To get going on over there fun stuff all the way around. You know, I talked to Juan R. Okay, last week was an old friend from resu Days twenty years ago. And and and I said, hey one you got a Sun Devil report for us this week. Absolutely. I'm talking to Ray Anderson on Thursday and you know meet with the 80 and then I'll I'll report back and we'll we'll do something real will do it up real good and I'll talk about everything that's going on out there song very generous with his time looking forward to having one on one will be on about halfway through the show. And and as you said, yeah scooter bolander legendary former Brophy coach now started a new program out in East Mark in Queen Creek and Scott Howard out of Florence High School. They were set to kick off Friday, October 4th. I want to say it's it's so it was one of our Friday night a Thursday Thursday Night Football Friday edition that that they were going to be squaring off out at Florence and and so, you know fingers crossed again season holds up, that would be literally be the the phone number. Say the first week of the season for high schools and and and that'll be a great matchup. So looking forward to hearing from both of them and weighing in on their topics veteran coaches. Great with kids great with families great with admin that's key to and and they've been around forever. So anyway, thanks looking forward to coming back and spending my morning with you my friend. Yes, sir. It's going to be another great show. I'm looking forward to visit with them and kind of seeing how things are developing as school is starting for a lot of a lot of schools whether that be if they're going online or if they're actually going in person. I don't Queen Creek School started in person last week. So the bulb was already rolling Vents and we'll kind of have to see how it bounces as they say. All right, come on back to the JV Sports show here after the break. As you said, it'll be our JV High School Spotlight segment Eastmark head football coach scooter bolander and Florence Gophers head football. Coach. Scott Howard will be right back after the break State. I am ready to bring home a new home with a 1-year. Hi, I'm Alexa download the USA. This is where I start my day. Ron Scott here. Congratulations JD Sports shows one year anniversary special shout-out to James the personality of the program. 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Www.sports.com and let us show you the benefits of partnering up with James and I on the JV sports show. Meet social information about k t u s a m 1064 ik DUS 1060 Comp US am 1060 on Twitter and Facebook. 10:16 a.m. It's the JV Sports shows High School space spot light off. Welcome back to the Jamie Sports show James Bowie alongside my broadcast partner if it's Eliseo. There's this time for a little high school football and talk. What do you say my friend it is here we are and we are joined by a couple of Veteran coaches here in the valley Florence High School Gophers head football coach Scott Howard and Eastmark Firebirds head football coach scooter bolander coaches Howard. Am olander. Good morning gentlemen. Good morning. Good morning, Okay guys lot going on. Obviously. How's your offseason been here leading up to through the summer here leading into fall coach coach Howard you first Our off season has been pretty good. We've been about eighty strong for about nine weeks now and you know, the kids are really excited obviously with everything going on, you know, this is kind of like outlet and they've done a good job all summer long. It's been this has been great work. Ethic has been awesome. So we're we're we're ready to go. We were ready to go for August 17th. Unfortunately got pushed back already for December 7th coach Howard. Are you guys starting in person to begin the school year or you guys going to have maybe at hybrid mix of online? And then when does that start efficient performance High School? Actually, I will be in person starting October 5th. So we're not going back where everything will be online and for the first quarter and then but they're allowing us. Our district is allowing us to Like normal, obviously with protocols in place to keep everybody safe. But yeah, we're not going back till October 5th coach melendres. So Eastmark started just a couple of years back. She got a really young team playing a varsity schedule this year. What's it like for those young people out there and in navigating through all this and and getting them ready for the season? Well am junior team and everyone else will be freshman and sophomore sophomore than off. I'm proud of our guys that work hard and and we really need them to mature and you know, it's a biggest thing that you know, understanding the work ethic that it you know, when the when the took a good time and and when to get after it and fortunately we have a good coaching staff that Adam sure my offensive coordinator Mark Reiner our defensive coordinator Chris driving Hawk our team. Those guys are doing a great job coach Royal and I'll kind of pose the same question to you as I did for Coach Howard. When do you guys start school there at Eastmark? And will that be online or in-person to sneak will be a mix of both we've been online for we go back to school on Monday with many face protocols in place and everybody's excited to get back to you can't call it normal school if you know because it's there's very very important protocols. As I said, everyone will be required to wear masks all of the time and the district has done a great job of communicating effectively and putting in Space Program together. So that's interesting scooter. The the fact that you've got your district is it's going to be resuming on Monday and there are others that were still kind of a little gun-shy there and and taking a stance that they're not quite ready yet how how the parents embraced, you know getting the kids out of the house and getting it back. I know how I would feel about getting myself out of the house, but what's it been like Well, yeah, you're going to have to ask our Administration really that yeah, I know our our football program and our kids are excited to get back home good that's great. And and with regard and with that then you guys obviously are going to be on field you're going to be practicing as well. Correct? Absolutely. Absolutely. Yep, you know, it's a it's a fine line of making sure that your training the guys hard and also giving them some time off this week. We'll we won't be practicing in our camp. We will do some lifting but we're going to give them this week off and then, you know go hard and and take time off and it's important as the season. It's got already mentioned. The season has been pushed back and so once it starts it's going to be a Sprint, you know it an intense print and so we need to make sure everybody prefers birth. And we began and not not feel like they just been grinding and our ground down. We're visiting here with Coach Scott Howard from the forest golfers and Coach scooter. Mohanraj. Smart fiber is coach Howard. Once you guys resume school, like you said you'll be going online for the first quarter of the Year James Kennedy and I apologize James James. Can I interrupt you real quick. Can you call the studio back? Because you would just dropped off the call if you don't mind, please thank you and and with that and we might as well, I've got another question for scooter really quick sure scooter so much because the season is is said to to begin October 1st. Does that mean that that from what you see with the schedule? It's going to be the the same schedule going forward in terms of you know, you're at that point in the season your first that game would have been you guys traveling over to Florence. Is that going to be the same or a things changing with the AIA? That's a great question Vincent and it's going to change because there were a lot of scenes that for whatever reason decided not to play obviously for safety. Just imagine in this particular location. And so now we all have 2019 and three a there will be a seven-game season. I believe there will be back by week at the end of seven games and then a 16-team playoffs still I think if a very good plan and so yeah, that's that's what we know from our coach out what I was going to ask you a moment ago with you guys starting online. How are you going to have practices or you going to keep that at the typical time? It's nice to do three 4:00 or you may be going to jump it up and get those guys out of bed a little early in the morning and knock it out before the school day starts. What's the overall plan? We're going to go at night. We've been going at night. Pretty much the last four week. We're going will be going about 6 from 6 to 8:30 every night any kind of wage Board of works out for our coaches or coach's are doing a tremendous job getting these guys ready and we've got teach classes. And so I didn't want to put the pressure on our coaches to you know, I'm done in the classroom and then or online classroom and then have to get over to the school. So we're supposed to be practicing at 9. And honestly, it's going to help serve a lot of things are protocols and placed the kids. Unfortunately, we're not going to be allowed to use like locker rooms and things like that. So the kids will be able to come dressed out ready to go for practice. They'll be able to bring their own water things that you know, some of those protocols that we have to kind of adjust to and we still and we still have to worry about the Heat and the the acclamation to the Heat and stuff like that. So I think that'll dead. Fort a lot of that those things as well or do you have a lot of off-campus coaches there and and what what's it been like for them in in having to re-acclimate themselves with with being around back around the kids and how is that going? You know, actually, I've been very blessed. We we have the majority of our coaches are on on campus and on down south where they work with our kids every single day. So they're you know, they they've been around but I mean it does make a challenge. It is a challenge, you know, we got a couple of our our offensive line coach going to relax. Relax, you know, he's a he's a department head for the math department. So he's you know, he's got a lot on his plate in terms of teaching online and and getting the department going, you know virtually and then we got another postcard line is as a math teacher as well and our student council advisor, so he got a lot going on and then Thursday. We got we got some great coaches that are you know working in other other Realms on the campus security guards, like coach and Coach Neil and of course the lie that are doing an awesome job. I just hoping supports our kids and then we got our coach wants is our is our Waits guy. He's doing an awesome job in the weight room with our kids so long, you know, they're they're they've been great. They've been there all summer long the I think that's a big thing for our kids to kind of normalcy with us as a coaching staff. And so, you know, I I've heard a lot of great things from parents that you know, this has been an outlet form and I think that's going to continue once the season starts. we are joined by Florence High School head football coach Scott Howard Eastmark High School head football coach scooter bolander, you know gentlemen we are we plus here as we go through and you've obviously seen each other on film so coach mole and her I'm going to give you the floor first. What is coach Howard do well at and what are you going to do to to beat his tape off? Well, you know that he's running really good programme down on special teams and we're definitely going to need we're going to need to play hard. We're going to need luck to beat them. You know, they'd have they'd have a very established program going down final minute. What are you going to do to to beat the Firebirds interesting, you know with them being their first year of Varsity level. I've seen fell off. I know personally have done an outstanding job and he's got great coaching stuff. I know they're going to be well prepared. We're going to play hard. There's going to be a big game for both teams. We're not using PowerPoint. I'm going to go off of region to region teams make it and I think there's three things in our region that'll be biased by for those spots. So I know what we're going to get a discipline t e Don't play hard. It's going to be Athletics, So we're excited. I'll say anymore. Thank you gentlemen so much for joining us. We appreciate your time this morning head coach Scott Howard from the Florence gophers and the coach scooter bolander of the East Mark Firebirds both on the Slate for Thursday Night Football this upcoming full. So we're looking forward to being out there and hosting that game. So it's going to be a great. Yeah. Thank you gentlemen for joining us this morning. We wish you continued success and we will catch up to you in the coming weeks. Thanks guys. Yeah special edition of Thursday Night Football to be played on Friday night, October 4th. So it should be exciting out of Florence coach how it's going to have the concierge ready for us over there in the shrimp cocktail and all that in the broadcast Booth. So looking forward to that. But thank you again gentleman and coming up next. What do we have James? We've got all American one rotation and join us for he's going to give us the Georgia football report looking to get some inside information. 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Welcome back to sports show and when we hear that song, we know it's time for one thing and the JV Sports show Sun Devil report by an old friend of the program an old friend to me a brother one Roque All-American and teddy bear at heart want good morning, sir. Good morning guys. Thanks for having me on you know, it's funny. You you played the fight song and this is really, you know, zonis season right now when the team would be either coming back from Camp, you know and getting ready for the season and yep. Facebook memories just popped up right now with Coach Kush Vikings ago being carried off the field. I mean that talk about a sign before I came on the air to talk about the Met Breuer from above, you know, just just you know, just you know, just when you think of the tradition of the awesomeness that Arizona State football, you know, all entities man. What a way to start it off now I just thought it showed you guys. What how does it feel to be known as a let a Sun Devil Legend and you know, the ASU football goes spans a lot of years and a lot of times right names have have come through but that the upper echelon there. There are few and you are you rank right up there with some of the grades and is it is there like a special club like where you know, you gotta wear like a spring jacket you go into and and you get privileges with a you know, a card a membership card. I mean, what's that like? Well, I'm in the Hall of Fame. I got inducted in 2009 which was a tremendous honor just the fact that you're in the home. And you think about the football players that are in there like Randall McDaniel Jake Plummer Pat Tillman, you know Dan salomone, you know, I mean, it's curly Culp, you know to just guys that I just, you know, a tremendous football players a tremendous people, you know, like for instance, you know, so that that is a very exclusive Club. But you know, they they made it even more exclusive where they have the Ring of Honor and sadly it's you know, when the stadium Renovations and all those things. I don't believe anyone's been inducted since since 2015. I imagine maybe 2014 so it's all on hold so I'm not in that group yet. So hopefully it'll take isn't in there. I'm not in there, you know, like guys like Shante Carver but to be considered a quote-unquote legend is a tremendous honor just because you come here as a freshman and you're just happy to get your scholarship and happy to have the opportunity to play football and to be able to you know, good on the field and represent the school or earn your degree and you know the instrument right there with us. I mean what we accomplished as a team. Man is coaches and its strength coaches and trainers, you know, it was a combined team effort what we accomplished in nineteen, ninety six and then you just hear people talk about it today with Iraq and the excitement like it just happened ten minutes ago when you're forty six years old man, that's powerful. That's what you know, that that you've made an impact individually collectively as a player as a team. We did something special. We were Sports in the valley for that period in time and people still remember it and they remember it was such excitement that it's hard not to get fired up for a new season hoping we could replicate that at some point home. Now who decides on the ASU Ring Of Fame who votes on that during an honor committee or Ring of Honor this could be these that are set up, you know, there's they're just people like for for the national football foundation for instance, you know that for college College Football Hall of Fame, you know, they have a committee and then they do a nomination and then it goes through a vetting process and I'm sure you probably has the same type of thing with wage. Certain individuals. I imagine, you know Ray Anderson's part of that the you know past coaches tennis players. So it's hard to say that they haven't inducted anyone lately. But you know now that the stadium renovation is done or sure some point when we get back to football, I'll hopefully that'll take off again. And I mean you never know. I'm not saying I'm going to be there but I may have a shot at that that maroon jacket and it'd be a tremendous honor if it did happen. Well, we got a way to get you up there once right. We also got to get off of line needs to be in there. But anyway, that's a whole other story agree. That's the whole 96 offensive. I should be in the Hall of Fame. I agree a hundred percent with amazing group and amazing people one. I gotta ask you now, so I'm obviously last week at this time. We were planning a kick off. It was the territorial cup now, we don't and and so what's going on over there? You said you had a conversation with Ray Anderson this week tell me what's happening now dead. Well, actually we didn't get right on the podcast, you know, some don't go by Saturday because the situation what happened they had to postpone it so we won't talk to Ray until August 27th. But what I know is right now is that the situation is they keep using the f word and not the bad f word the word fluid. It's a fluid situation. It's constantly changing this information coming in from all ends and guys, you know, it's very frustrating. It's very heartbreaking, you know, we should be talking about saving Daniels right now. We should be talking about who's going to replace email. We should be talking about this offensive line, you know, you know how hard they going to come together this season? You know, how are they going to respond to Marvin Lewis? We should be talking about that season 3 either Herm train instead. Yep talking about a season that could be potentially lost. I mean, I never planned for this week. I mean since when we did your show back and what you know when this all was March in March. Yeah, we speak with be here. No, I didn't even know it was frustrating just in March and I imagine now. What these kids are going through that that's that's the thing that gets me events. And you know, you were right there with us and I can't imagine what it's like for these repairs that you prepare off you prepare. You you commit you're doing everything that's been asked of you. You're on campus you're protecting yourself and to them somehow say sorry guys, maybe January maybe not. I'm not faulting the administration. I'm not in any way involved in the league player safety comes first. I get it. I understand that might have a kid in college football who's in quarantine right now on on on Arizona Christiansburg get it about the players. We gotta make sure they're safe. We got to make sure that we're not endangering them and you know, there's a lot of information on this virus. That's it. It could potentially be a full-body effect. They could have liver organ damage liver damage. We we don't want our kids exposed to that if we don't have to but but at the same time, it's frustrating. It's frustrating because as the situation is so fluid as the word I'm using is that there's ten it's just it's all dead. Just making it up as they go along in some ways. But yeah, they're airing on the side of player safety, but it still sucks that we get to lose the season because we're visiting here with some demo All-American Juan wrote a one-page think during this frustration. That's obviously there's players are going through right now having worked all offseason and getting really ramped up for fall Camp, which you mentioned would probably be going on this week already long. Do you think it will drive more of those players to work even harder and when they finally get that chance to to Blow That Whistle kick that football off, they'll be even more prepared or do you think it might go the opposite way and deprived of them to the point where oh man, I'm so I'm so bored might not even play football anymore. You know, you don't that's a great question and you I hadn't even thought about that too. You just brought up and you know, what bring up a great Point. What is it going to do? What is it? What effect is it going to have on the players? Is it going to teach them that football is is is a gift and it is the privilege that you know, it's not a right that the fact that you get to play your Bless the Dead. The practice put on bad you're already blessed. I mean just to be walking into the locker room at Arizona State as a freshman with no promise that you're going to be in all America with no promise that you're going to be a professional with no promise that you're gonna do anything other than go to school and be a part of the team. That's a blessing. That's a privilege. So kids maybe need to start re-evaluating especially with guys in their ears about, you know, cutting the pie and being part of the money machine, you know, not at the whole thing's taken away. Maybe it's going to make them appreciate the sport a little more mean. It's going to make them study a little harder maybe a little more appreciative of what they're being given you're given a scholarship but an opportunity just yeah and and the better yourself as a human being and as an athlete and as everything, you know that goes into it and I'm sure what I want what I do have to say what I have to say is this what I've seen in other programs around the country there have been players star players that have been coming out saying I'm not going to play this year. I'm not going to play this year. It's not say and and kind of forcing the hand of their school to to make that decision. I haven't heard back. Coming out of a s u I haven't heard guys Star players say, you know, we're not we're not going to play and and tell us about that. I I think that a lot of this new attitude and a lot of the kids about self-entitlement wanting a piece of the pie wanting to be treated as professionals when they're not they're amateurs Arthur's college students who are being given an opportunity to play football and go to school then they'll get me started on that you about paying that we can have a whole show about that. A lot of people don't have to say I really do I put on pads I put in my 5 years. I didn't start till the 3rd year. There's no such thing as a transfer portal back then it wasn't about me me me. It's about what can I do to make the team better? How do I contribute whether it's on Scout team? Whether it's on a second team, whatever I have to do back then I'm going to do it and you know, my career went well, but I think the fact that is not having this issue players having this attitude about what's in it for me is The Testament? I understand it's a testament to you know, doctor Crow. It's also a testament to Jean Boyd. Yeah. It's a term Edward all the people in that job. Yeah, Kevin many filled in all these guys and you know many and Jeep plated. They're they're Legends in the they did their old-school Devil's man and and they bring that mentality that our building where I'm proud as hell of our kids that they're not there by the way. Yeah. I know you have to get that. That's right. It's happening with our our trip and I I have to bring something up before we we've got a couple of minutes here one, but do you remember the spring of ninety-six Spring ball when when Bill Clinton was campaigning for re-election and he came through and you spoke, you know, like I think you introduced him you talk about guys being humbled and well, you know well grounded after after one did that and he came to practice in the meeting room, How much is the guys teased you about that? Oh God, they were it was during the season during the season if you ever was before the that's right, and you know, I got birth. Thursday were just in shorts at home. I got rats. They made him president president president burrito. And I mean, I was paid off, president of the United States off head because he knew whatever he did those guys were going to bring it back down to earth regardless. So he I do after after that and Bill Clinton mentioned about playing line for him off the electric. I knew I was in for it. When I I already do, you know, what's up with such a family atmosphere and these guys all looked out for each other they you know, and did it right and and you know, it's it's a it's a blessing to be Associated, you know, even with whatever small part that I'm There, you know which was obviously very small but to be associated with it and to to to a blessing and a curse to be associated with a great team in nineteen ninety six, but all of a curse because they haven't really done it since then, right? You know, we're hoping with her will be with the harm train. We're going to do it guys. I'm confident. We got the right guy. It's just a matter of just got to get him back on the field then but we do it safely. We got to do it smartly. We have to get behind the decisions. It's not just not get discouraged and start crap it on the administration and crap it on the couches and and and you know, make it a negative. It's player safety bad and they're going to get error on the side of player safety every time and in the end it comes down to the kids and protecting our kids and making sure they're not exposed to something. So if it means they're going to lock it down guys, they're going to lock it down and you know what life has in our words and our first that's it on social media posts and people getting all email about it. They're going to speak to damn thing. Let's just take it. Thank you. That's it. Thank you so much. All Americans Sun Devil All-American Dog. All right guys brother of mine and we totally backed this admin at ASU head football coach Herm Edwards the rest of the administrative staff and the players James. What do we have coming up next? Thank you wanna come down to visit with Kelsey Dickerson a friend of ours from the Arizona Humane Society. She's going to update some events going on over there. So stay tuned. We got one more segment for you here on a Saturday morning. 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Let's get it off. SB Nation radio is now a sports map radio keeping Sports content fresh and fun. Join us right here on am 1060 song Welcome Back to the dreaming more snow a little Survivor this morning event. That was a great choice this week. One of my favorite movies was Mall Cop. Remember Paul Blart? Oh, yes. Yeah. It was a big one in anyway. So yeah, just all right off where they're in the the bar and they're singing the karaoke one of the funniest things you'll ever say is great. Great love Kevin outstanding stuff. We're pleased to be joined. Once again now by Kelsey Grammer of the Arizona Humane Society. She's been out with us a number of times Kelsey. So great to have you back. How are you doing? Oh my goodness. Thank you so much for having me and being such a great advocate for our pets. I'm doing well. How are you guys doing we're doing What is plugging away? Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. Don't go ahead tell us about some of the stuff going on at the Arizona Humane Society. I know you guys have a special edition of pets on Parade coming up very shortly on three TV box honest. Yeah, we are so excited. So we haven't been able to be in studio, of course because of Clovis. So we are taping our very own 30-minute special that is going to air on August 29th at 12:30 on three TV at all to help raise awareness and raise funds for Urgent summer fund. This is going to be such a great and inspirational, you know show just full of the stories that our community has been able to allow us to do, you know, the tests that we saved the people that we've helped and all the stuff that we've been able to keep in homes and just so many great things like that. So we hope everyone can put it into their calendar August 29th on three TV at 12:30 just super excited. It's been a long time since I've done a real show. I'm just really excited to be able to get our pets out there Kelsey. We're now due to this pandemic obviously wage. Four people have had to stay home. Are you seeing fewer animals coming in as a result of this or has it been the same in terms of numbers? And and what's going on with the actual adoptions? Yeah. It's been about the same in numbers, you know, the summer months are our busiest time of the year for emergency animal medical technicians and are cruelty investigators. We've also I had a higher volume of calls coming in for a pet Resource Center. So, you know people out there who are maybe losing their jobs or getting furloughed for needing some resources. So that's exactly what we're there for. We're there to try to help prevent pets from coming in from a shelter in the first place finding alternatives for them. Whether it's you know, a month of free food or finding them pet friendly housing or whatever they may need. But of course if I ever get to that point where they have to relinquish their pet to us or through there for them. So we've definitely seen about the same amount of pets but adoptions have been absolutely amazing. So we've had to consolidate all of our adoptions through one campus that are yep. Her compassion and we've had to alternate to our virtual meth-making adoptions by appointment and we're adopting out about 80% of the volume of tests that we have moved normally with for a low season. So the community has has been absolutely incredible and helping to save the sick injured and abuse pets and we just could not be happier with this model. And if anyone's out there should be like, oh maybe I want to adopt her. I want to Foster we have about 65 appointments for adoptions per day. So we have a lot of openings for you out there and we have a lot of pets in need of their forever homes Chelsea. Obviously you guys are having to keep the adoption events that you guys are known for in a virtual space for right now. But do you foresee anything happening in person down the line? Are there any talks about things kind of maybe opening up in your world? They're off. Yeah, I mean it's really hard to tell you know, we're just really trying to base it off of the information that we're given and we're trying to be as safe as possible not only for our staff and our pets but for the community as well so off we foresee this virtual matchmaking adoption By Appointment happening for a long time, especially because it's been so successful, you know, so we're just kind of talking through some things that we can keep during covid-19 things are going to happen post so bad but one thing that we have been able to do is that we've been able to start doing in-home Behavior appointment. So in addition to our virtual training appointments with our pet Behavior specialist as well as our pet trainers, if you're comfortable having one of our stuff come into your home, of course if we're going to mask up anyone that goes into the shelter gets their temperature taken each and every morning time being as safe as possible. So if you guys need in-home help, we're also offering that as well now right now so you can always get more information at a Humane and then of course are dead. Clinics have been opened up even more now. So our Sunnyslope campus is open for for curbside appointments for spay and neuter. So if anyone out there needs their pets to be spayed or neutered and then ourselves on public Lounge is open 7 days a week. So we're really expanded our ways that we're able to help the community and help to test the safe as possible especially during these triple-digit temperatures Chelsea speaking on the topic of triple-digit temperatures. What kind of advice can you pass along to to help facilitate responsible pet ownership during Times Like These? Oh my goodness. So first and foremost is make sure that you guys are never leaving pets or kids in a car. It can take just a few minutes for the temperatures to reach really badly the results. We've already seen, you know, some pretty horrific cases already this year. So never do that sort, of course, you know for your pets make sure that you're waiting til really early in the morning or really late at night to take your pets out for walks. If you do have to take them out during the day make sure that you have booties plenty of fresh cool water and that they're not dead. Opposed to this key as long as you know, maybe that you think they might be able to drink other times of the year, of course always making sure that they have fresh water cool water inside and outside as well as ventilated stayed home and just bringing your pets inside, you know, they can't ventilate themselves like weekend. They can't cool down the same way that people can so these hot temperatures can really get them in heat distress really quickly and they can't tell us that they're not feeling good. You know, like these pets are going to be out there and they're just going to be doing their thing until it's too late to see what are some of the the questions or maybe some of the qualifying questions. If you will when you're young you're having a virtual meeting for a prospective adoptive family for one of the pets to make sure that that it's a right fit for everybody. Of course, you know, our adoption counselors are so amazing. And so I just knew process you can go online at the Humane the art classes up see if there's any pets that catch your eye, of course, you know, you can make an appointment and then within about 24 hours of your appointment one of our adoptions birth. There is going to call you if you selected a pet that you're interested in meeting specifically they're going to call you tell you about their medical history tell you about their behavior. Maybe what the ideal home situation for them. If that pens already been adopted. They're going to let you know that as well. So then that way you have that in your mind is like, okay. Well then maybe there's a pet or do that. I want to meet instead. So what we really try to do with this whole process is make sure I am not only are we setting up our pets for success but also our adoptions are our potential adopters as well. And what is so great. Is that because we've been doing this we've actually had fewer returns back to the shelter which is just so amazing. We have a 100% adoption guarantees the weather tomorrow or in ten years. If something happens when you have to bring your pets out your pet back, we will bring them back into the shelter, you know to help them their forever home that they need but it's just been so great. And I think that if we can do that with kids too. Oh did I say that, you know dead? Oh boy. Okay. Thank you so much again for joining us. We really appreciate you always come out here on the JV Sports show everyone. Don't forget Saturday, August 28th at 12:30 p.m. On three TV a special edition of pets on parade and we're looking forward to it as well Kelsey. So it's going to be a great one. Thanks again for joining us and we appreciate everything you do for the animals here in Arizona. Well, thank you suck without you guys. All right, that's great. So anyway, so Kelsey Dickerson fun stuff. 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4) Will We have baseball back?

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4) Will We have baseball back?

"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why IBM is helping. Businesses manage customer questions with Watson Assistant It's conversational designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit Ibkr. Dot Com Slash Watson Assistant? I was hoping that we would have some news about Major League baseball by the time that we got to the end of June or near the end of the nothing so far joining us right now in the sprint, people's hotline is former Major Leaguer three-time all-star, four-time gold glover boom, joining us on the sprint hotline to talk to you again. How are you? Guys doing. This Monday morning. No baseball still not yet y'all screwing it up. The players y'all. Screw it up. Telling me manny I'm exhausted. I'm talking about I thought this thing would be done. Long ago I know how these things go. It's it's business big time business, but at at some point. man, it's you know. I I looked at it from all perspectives, I, how the owners are and how they can be? There's a lot of mistrust in that room dressing from from just history. But we're getting to a point now. Where the Games are getting lowered my concern as You know now is taking my player hat off and being a ban is. A I think gone through. Several emotions, you know we have the lockdown we have. Country going through some crisis, and and now the said no baseball. Baseball's a possibility that gives some people you know some some hope it's all right off something to watch live. And then to watch this play out in the back and forth, and then I think it went to the fans getting mad. You know what? Why can't these guys come? Note Agreement? There's so much money, and then it comes to a point of kind of resentment, and then it's to a point of I. Don't give a crap, and and you never. WanNa get your fan date in the I. Don't give a crap mode, but. You know you're down to sixty games now from what I'm what I'm gathering the current offer, sixty games full, pro rated which from a player's standpoint and me. That sounds like a pretty good deal. You know being that there's as now if you were to open the season. You have no chance coming through the gate. And and that revenue stream has gone yet. The players are getting full rated so. My Lehman thinking is. That's a pretty good deal right now. Let's get this thing done. And done. Go ahead. When it's when it's all, said and done, and you know they're agree on the fifty to sixty games or Whatever. Who Looks Worse. Was the first pitch on where people remember the owners, or they just blame it all on the players, because they're the ones who are visible in front of the cameras. Well I think I think history says that it's always the players and I remember being a player rap back in ninety four when when things went. We had rough sledding and Donald. The're told me Brett. We're never gonNA. Win The PR water in the public. Just chock that up right now so where we went behind the scenes. I don't think either side. Is GonNa look it. I think I think the owners have been exposed a little bit on how they're doing. There's not always good faith negotiation. I and I think. I think a and I was really impressed with With the Union came back with, and they basically put them in a box and they said tell us when and where. Why don't they expected? and. Rob Manford comes back layer after saying we are definitely going to have a season and say we might not have he's now. People need to understand also that. Rob Manfred. Is the Commissioner Baseball? But, everybody would think well. He's just the mediator. He's in the middle. You know and you hope that's what it would be. Rob Manfred is an extension of the owners owners pay him what rob Manfred is saying is what the owners want to get so i. I. Don't know as a player you know when Bud Sealy took over an item big problem with it at the time, saying this is a big conflict interesting that the owner of the Milwaukee brewers and the Commissioner of baseball well, that'd be sweet, but let let me be the commissioner you know. looking back on history and on, and on now I think it's coming on twenty six years with Labor Peace I have to tip my cap, the bud ceiling and say I think history is going to get a look down on it and say he did a really good job It's been a rocky start for for rob. I don't know rob Manfred personally. The PR and the way in handled man I i. don't think it's given a good look to baseball. This is what I've noticed about the game. And with anything, Major League baseball is is a staple it's. Is a part of our country. It's Apple Pie. Chevrolet, Major League Baseball. It will be here. When we're long God no players ever bigger than the game. No teams ever bigger. No, Eric bigger you know. We saw that at ninety four. Where we went on strike, we ended up getting a world series canceled, and it took four or five years for all the fans to come back, but it will always baseball always survive in the long run. I, think the key now is just getting this thing done getting the product on the field and you know what if you have an exciting season at a really exciting playoff the fans and everybody will forget all that. We went through in these last two or three months from ingratiating snap. Baseball, look. Wink does get back. Again with? Baseball look like when he comes back. Will it be raggedy? Would it be good what we see? I think you're going to see you know. Normally we're starting in April and the guys are a little rusty coming out of spring training sometimes you played in cold climates depending on where your team is. so it's Kinda getting. Like anything the first couple of weeks in and you get into may now you're taking your strife I think you're gonna see guys rusty in the very beginning. When I'm concerned about a little bit is. You know Major League. Baseball is one hundred and sixty two games. Now that being said what we've gone through as a country, these are extreme circumstances, so we're trying to basically get a product out there, but I think you're gonNA. See the purest. Already starting to put astronauts up everywhere. It's all this as this isn't legitimate. This is this is that how can you? How can you? You know determined a world series? With a sixty game schedule. so I think you're GONNA see. That I was hoping to see at least like an eighty game schedule I think the the I think the map to doing that. Now is kind of impossible as far from an eighty game standpoint. Just you know how the? How it works out, they wanNA, be done. The end of October doesn't allow you to have an eighty two game schedule so now you're sitting there around sixty. it depends. It depends how. You know how they set up the playoffs. How exciting it becomes, how many teams are involved I? Think you're going to have some people thinking well. This is pretty cool. Baseball's usually marathon drawn out over a long season. Now you know that first week of games it should be a lot more relevant a lot more important just because of the licensed season. It's I. Don't know this is kind of see as we go I. You know this is this is places we've never been in. Sports could be honest so I think it's GonNa be a wait and see and You know I'm just hoping for an exciting season and there's definitely be a lot more teams in the mix lot. More cities are GonNa have that feeling that their their teams got a chance. Where in the past, a lot of teams are eliminated pretty much by mid season. I think this is GonNa be. Exciting aspect but. This is the wait-and-see thing. But Boone joining us here on the morning show and you played in the major leagues for fourteen seasons. You played for five different teams, so you are around a different a lot of different ownership groups, do you? Did you ever get the sense from any of the teams that you played for the team? The guys that own these teams care about the game, not necessarily care about the money or even necessarily care about trying to win games or the world series, but do they care about the health of the sport long-term? Do they ever consider what this? These sorts of moments will do to the health of the game over the next ten years fifteen twenty years. Do they care about baseball? I think definitely, but but I think more so now in in modern day. Twenty. Two thousand actually back in back in the day it was. It was a mom and pop type situation. Where where owners? It was family, owned and plate. Now it's very corporate. It's very bottom line I play for organizations where. All care about the bottom line and how good our PR is. I played in the nineties for Cincinnati team. Where we had a controversial owner, but an owner, nevertheless that that all she cared about winning and the game of Baseball so I I've been on both sides of the ledger. I think today it's definitely much more cooperative than it was back and you know I grew up in in with. In The Philadelphia Area with my dad and Phillies in the seventies and the owner neighbor ruled carpenter was the owner, and that's back in the days of you know it was family owned he was. He was in that clubhouse every day that was his. It was his business in his product, but man. It was all about the game and winning and the players those are those are pretty cool type I still think that exists, but not on a grand scale It's more corporate. It's more bottom line. It's more run like a business. What role if any does the spiking of coronavirus cases has in terms of the future baseball the season. Well. I think I think definitely playing a role. I think we saw the you know I. I. You know. I fiddled around I looked to certain guys that that Kinda are getting the scoop I'm watching twitter. Probably just like you guys are watching so what I heard the last couple of days. Is You know I know? There was a spike in Philly camp and they had five players I think maybe broadly. you know across the the thirty teams I think there's upwards of forty cases that have been that that doesn't necessarily mean forty players or sick, but they've actually tested positive for the virus I think the one thing about Major League baseball that that from a real positive standpoint everything they do is is definitely first class. You're going to have the best medical experts they're. They're gonNA do have all the precautions to safety measures taken so from that aspect from a health standpoint I. I Know Major League Baseball will be on top of it. And these players are going to be as in in a safe environment as anybody going back to work that being said it's still out there I think it's something they're still gonNa have to deal with in. That might be a reason right now where they're kind of dragging their feet. A little more I heard a couple of days ago. They were about to take vote anything. All these things go through in the union. It all comes down to a vote in the end where it goes from the reps from the National League in the American League going down to their reps for each individual team that each individual team will get his players together. Take a vote now they take a vote amongst all the reps that have to take place in anything. It's more of a procedural thing, but nevertheless it has to be done, and I heard the other day. They were about to take that vote and probably approve this. And then the we heard we got word of the corona a positive tests so that that of is allowing them the drag their feet a little bit now. I don't know I. Think you know looking from the outside in now being being a fan of the game, I would say. Let's take the boat at. Yes, of course all the health regulations. Everything has to be about when we. We go for, but let's just get this vote out of the way. Tell the fans. Hey, we voted. We agreed on the season now. Health providing the season's going to go on I think it would end this law. What if when are they GONNA? You know sick answering questions I walk around town at the gym and every day. Brett, what do they play, but you should know? Go guys I'm frustrated with you, so let's just get this thing on the road. Bret Boone Fourteen years in the major leagues joining us here on the morning show Brett good sake again. Thanks a bunch. Okay guys. Thanks for having me. Got It. The players that UCLA or saying. We need some help. Because the guy that's supposed to be looking out for. US definitely is not looking out for us. That's next on the morning show on seven ten. ESPN ALRIGHT SO UCLA hired chip Kelly a few years ago and they really haven't won very many games since he's gotten there and then right before the weekend started. A group of players that Ucla asked for some help. They sent a document that ESPN has obtained first reported by the La Times thirty current players. One former player signed a letter asking the third party. Health officials be put in charge of overseeing and enforcing health and safety guidelines, and the guidelines be clearly and publicly stated it goes on to say that the players are asking for. For Whistle Bro Protections to be provided for athletes and staff who want to report violations of any guidelines as well as the ability to make decisions in regard to personal health without consequences in of loss or scholarship retaliation from coaches in any form. What that means is hey. Over here over here chip Kelly is going to get us all sick. He doesn't give a damn about us. Not to go to practice, because everybody's getting sick, he's GonNa. Take it out on us. He's GonNa. Pull scholarships. He's GonNa. He's GonNa mess around with point. We need help over here. Clearly. Send somebody in here. That's going to keep an eye on this man. Wow. Wow, wow, that's pretty wild. The players, but it's also pretty wild. Think they would feel that way about the head coach, but he has track rick I. Mean when you think about some of the things. That it started obviously the coming out party when he was with the Philadelphia Eagles, doing certain things, get rid of a lot of the black players and and signing rather coupon to Cooper to an extension. The going getting fired. They're going to. The San Francisco forty. Niners, not doing well. They are getting pretty much fired theory to get picked up by UCLA and they're coming to ucla running a number of players out of the building I mean. Half team left with chip Kelly Kane in. So you start to see a pattern that he has put together in players, are there they see it, they understand. Understand like I told you before about coaches. You see you, you understand who they are, and what the about and I'm sure. His behavior at UCLA over the last three years have been such that players like no man. This saying right now they have an opportunity to say something about it and they whoever I don't know who put it together, but whoever? is together so and say man. This is a way for us to protect ourselves because if we don't this, do my run us into a wall. So Dory and Thompson Robinson. WHO's the quarterback at UCLA senator tweeted, said this number one. no-one said they didn't trust coach. Kelly number two majority of players talked about these demands, but only a handful willing to have their names publicly written. Don't turn this into a feeding frenzy on coach. This is about the safety of the programs. All will soon as Quarterback in your dad is already had issues with chip Kelly Sake. But he's actually Kinda take a chip Kelly side. That's what I'm saying. That's why said his dad has already had issues with chip Kelly in the past. He's a starting quarterback I get it. What he's saying is is that. It's not that bad. No, it is bad. In thirty guys did have the courage to put their necks in their names on it and say this is what's going on. We need some help here. Just thinking in the the number one. No one said they don't trust Kotelly. No, that's exactly what they're saying. There is no other explanation for this other than we need a third party because the guy that's supposed to have our best interests in mind doesn't and if we voice our terms and we do. Publicly if we don't do it publicly, I should say if we don't let the La Times though if we don't let ESPN. No, then he's going to come out and he's GonNa mess with us because that's how he rose. We have to do publicly or else. That's exactly what this is. Basically and I can. Difficult, position that a starting qb May, be. when they're coaches under duress. But you can't pretend as of the statement that was put together wasn't an. Of Your level of trust and coach I mean you can't have it both ways. You can't say this is an indictment helps and also saying we need a third party to be involved, because we're not quite sure if the party who's supposed to be in charge is going to take care of. You can't have it both ways now. I don't think you need to UCLA. I think when you look nationally. You see the number of cases that have spiked and more important when you hear some of the comments that were made before these young men even got back to campus. Coach Gundy this to in basically saying. They're young. They'll survives. Let's get them back out there, so you already knew going into this that. Your Safety was secondary to the money. That's tied to you play. Your a new that, and now you're on campus, you looking talk programs top top tippety top programs. Having Tan twenty guys testing positive for corona virus. And then on top of that, you're looking at your program. You're not a top programme. Your coach has a certain. Let's say interpersonal communication of. Instinct. That isn't necessarily agreeable with most people that are in the world. Why You will. You know extra cautious. Right I can understand why. You would not be Gung Ho and want to say hey. We need to make sure someone else is is overseeing this because what we're witnessing around the around campuses, all over this country is that guys are getting diagnosed with positive tests, and that the sport itself didn't seem to be that concerned about US testing positive for getting sick, but now here we are wondering who's defending us. So funny though, too. Chip Kelly is a lot to me. He's a lot like not not the the supporting of. Racism SORTA Kinda theme. Gundy way, through. It turns his coaching. He got the same type of. Like. What have you done to keep getting jobs? Keep like like. Won't use why UCLA say you know what man's probably not go workout. It's probably not gonNA. Work out to where it needs to like win. Win Are the frontline. The the president's of these universities in the athletic directors finally go step up and just say man. You know what this ain't working this just we get to mid too much going on. In decided to just cut people instead of holding on the stuff that don't work out. So well to me how they just he keep recycling chip Kelly like chip. Kelly is the answer. Will Chip Kelly. Had A good track record as a college football coach. The NFL thing didn't work out so I. Don't have a huge problem with taking a chance on chip Kelly second time that it doesn't work and this is how he's rolling. That's another issue in and of itself. There's also this part of the guys. It's one thing to ask. NBA Players Pay. We're going to set up a bubble over here. We're going to play. If you don't want to come, do it. That's fine. You don't have to do it if you. You have whether it's health concerns or otherwise. If you don't WanNa come, that's fine, and you can make an informed decision, and there's a whole lot of money waiting for you. If you decide that, you want to go and play the same thing with Major League Baseball if they get their act together in the NFL, there's a lot of money involved in. The guys are compensated incredibly well to go do that and you guys have heard me say this. A million times I under- no misconception that college sports is. That this is something they do in their spare time between going to chemistry and anthropology, I understand the fulltime job. But but they're not compensated like it's a fulltime job so now you're asking these guys to come onto campus to go into environment where infection can be spread pretty easily. You're asking them to go into that environment without the person in charge of the procedures giving a damn about you at all and I. Don't get any money. I get my scholarship, which isn't nothing, but they're also if I decided I don't want to do it. They may take that away from me to. This is what we're asking. An awful lot of these guys to go in there and play these sports for art entertainment to make sure the television networks and sponsors and everybody's getting their share, and they get a scholarship that is not a fair trade in this situation, and they may lose that if a guy like chip Kelly his way. In think is is, would you think about not only UCLA? A lot of colleges need to implement a third party to oversee a lot of different things and not just because of Kobe nineteen. Talk about, general, because if you think about the way to some of these football, coaches handle, these young men is everything, and it'll probably change a little bit now, because players starting to speak out because in the past. They were afraid that much like you say Travis. Scholarships gone now they back at home. People looking at you know like what happened to you, you those issues. Were we're now. Players speak out a little bit, but they still should implement. A third party in there just oversee. Of the Athletic Department. A little better I mean I know places like Arizona State in Herm Edwards Ray Anderson they got a certain way that they run their organization where they have checks and balances, but a lot of these other universities and he's athletic programs. They don't have checks and balances everybody Kinda. or saying they all kind of. About a key. What did we know for sure about? Virtually all these coaches? They do not like to surrender control. They do not to leave. The do not like to let the decision making out of their own hands. They run these places like dictators. They are gone in these situations. They are the ones that get to decide how how long we're. GonNa Practice, which guys are going to practice? which guys are going to be here? which is going to be there? and. They're telling you I. Don't trust that guy we need. Somebody there so I agree with you. This is not specifically exclusive to UCLA. It's just that UCLA players put a voice to it. They have? They. Have and we'll see how it unfold. Will will at some point I'm sure? We'll start to hear more as the story continues to develop about UCLA's football program athletic program in chip, Kelly's future. All right that was these been asking for something all morning and he finally got it. We'll tell you what it is next on the morning show on seven ten ESPN. GEICO's now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. That's fifteen percent on top of what Geico could already save you. So what are you waiting for your dentist to actually believe you and your flashing every day? Absolutely great and you're cutting down your sweets. Of course wonderful then I don't even need to look in their great six months. There's never been a better time to switch to GEICO. Save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh limitations apply visit GEICO DOT COM for details. Details so, is it you said it right at the beginning of the show that Nass car was not the right entity to try to investigate what happened at the track. At talladega yesterday there was a news hanged in but Wallace's garage yesterday a Nascar to save and said that they're going to try to find. The guilty party the FBI has gotten involved. You've been calling for that since the beginning of the show that this is what the FBI is forced to investigate hate crimes, and that's exactly what this was. Absolutely and I was happy to see that across the ticker, and that it didn't need it to be a big push in order to convince this to be properly investigated I know maybe some people thought I was GonNa Hyperbole at the beginning this show. Quote Unquote beyond just a you know someone doing something heinous, but no, this is a crime. This is a crime. Because of the way the law is written, there is obvious attempt to intimidate and threaten the life of someone based solely upon their skin color, and when it gets to that level, it goes beyond a sparsely between investigation gets. Even local authorities doing an investigation, it is a federal cry, and that means a needs to be addressed by the Department of Justice. Happy to see that the FBI's guide in ball because it also sends a message to anyone else who's thinking about doing the same thing. That this because remember NASCAR, says we're going to find out who did it and remove them from the sport. Directly connected to the sport, the House that a threat to you, but if you think the FBI is going to investigate you and you might end up in jail for committing a hate crime. Then, maybe you decide to use your racism and so elsewhere. We can't police stuff. No one can police. But. You can minimize the action of bad thoughts and harmful thoughts and ideologies, so that the greatest society can function in a much more sane progressive fascists. I'm happy to see the FBI's in Baugh. This isn't the end of it by any stretch. But. It's a good first step in terms of how they want to handle this conversation now that the news has been made present and but Wallace's garage. There is no end to it because look, football has racism basketball has racism the major league baseball soccer? There's racism every wash and. Of course, not of course it's not in. We'll try to do better and we'll work on it, but it's never going to end, but there's that, and then they're starting from where NASCAR is right now I mean you guys have seen the same videos. That I've seen this morning. The flags out in front of Talladega yesterday. For the first time. The first race is being run since they announced that they were not gonNA. Tolerate that flag on the premises. There was there now outside the tracks, so maybe they don't have any jurisdiction, but NASCAR's got a problem they can find. And, they will. They'll find out who do this. They'll find out who was involved in this, and that person will lose their job, and they may or may not be prosecuted with a crime. What we'll find out hopefully they are, but where does that leave Nasdaq okay? We got that guy out, but your culture of your sport I understand that these other leagues have racism issues despite guys like Vic. Fangio says but NASCAR. Nascar Culture is predicated on a southern culture in a particular type of southern culture which embraces the confederacy which braces that flag where a driver like Larson can use the N. word during video game race where another person can hanging noose in another drivers locker at these. This is just something that happens there occasionally. This is the culture that's been allowed to harden in that sport for decades. It's just now they're starting. I guess better late than ever, but we can get rid of the Guy Hung News. You can get rid of the flags in the property I guess, but changing the culture of that sport. It's going to take forever. No it is, and and that's why you have to not necessarily be patient, but understand that they've got a nascar as a whole corporation, NASCAR has got to implement people within NASCAR. Minorities put some people power people of color people understanding so they could understand. You'd think about the Lakers. For instance in what higher Dr Brown from Ucla, come in and teach them and showed him a away to to not just. Oh, we don't we. You know we're not racing. anti-racism did teach them all of those things hiring practices of minorities, not not a not interviewing certain candidates, but just hire them because you know. All of those sorts of things in NASCAR could certainly use a boost in that. That area I'm sure, but if they don't have the people at the table that understand those things, then nascar be with NASCAR, isn't it? It will still accept doing some of that source to you locked. People left. They bring a flag to the to the stadium. ROCK HIM UP. Make it make it. A some sort of law passed laws. Where if you bring it confederate flags in all of a sudden you lock them up. You know like say. Lock the person up to his news. Down the next person will think twice about in the next person. Think twice about that. I. WanNa. Go so far as to say that if you have a confederate flag. Jail. I going to do it because that goes against the First Amendment and I and so I don't again. It's not about policing. Your thought is not about policing. Your expression is about limiting the damage. You can do to harm society, not believe in laws that does that and Germany is outlawed to Sorta Swastika, and they can do that because it's not an constitution in terms of the same language that we have. You bring. You bring you bring you bring in the flags. Even though we asked you not to bring the flags to our events, you still bring them. That should be a violation. If we ask you. But it's not I clear. If you I don't care if you I don't care if you. Don't care if you want to have them out the parking lot or wherever tailgate two blocks away, or whatever the case is do that, but if you bringing them in our facility, but even take him from you, and it's going to be some sort of violation for you to be kicked out for you not to return to Nascar Vince again. That that's. Not a crier, but even to go back to what you said a second ago. The idea of okay, you can have your tailgate down the road, a couple of blocks and you can fly whatever flag you want. Okay, until point I guess that's a First Amendment issue for not on the property I'm not okay, but this is the this is the point. You don't go to a dodger game and see people down the street. Street flying the confederate flag. You don't go to a Laker game and see people down Figueroa flying the confederate flag go to an SEC football game and see a sea of RV's with the conflict with the stars and bars flapping in the wind. This is a NASCAR thing, so you can push it further down the street where you don't like it or you don't want it in your building, but it's still your customer. And you're still. You're still selling the race to that guy. You're still trying to get that guy to come in and buy a ticket in by a beer, t shirt and a hat, and this is where NASCAR totally different than these other lease. Their customer would prefer to be down the street with his flag. And then come to your race, as opposed to not have the flag in the first place. This is an entirely unique problem for that sport, because these other sports don't do this. Exactly, which is why you're see. Try to say `I stand with. bubba but they still don't WANNA come out against racism as. The confederate flag! Notice a lot of the responses on twitter. You Know Dale Earnhardt Jr... Some other people connected to the sport. Even Marty Smith's gave a very passionate rebuke a what was done these people still on saying. What's the root of this? They're not say that the confederate flag is a symbol of treason. And that the people who fought under this flag wanted to separate themselves from the United States, and they did so because they wanted to keep black people enslaved. That's with the flag represented not made up. That's the history. They don't want to say that. Travis in key because they're still trying to find a way to make. Some of those people feel welcomed. And it's a financial play and I understand that, but you can't play both ways. You, can't you can't? You cannot say I'm here to stop the rain from falling, but I'm pro rainfall. But she can't you can't do you have to choose a real side and not one that threads a needle because there are some places in life, there are no needless to be thread. You just just either your four racism or your net. Did. Cross, Talk George is coming up next on the morning show on seven ten ESPN. Join US here in just a second, but Kiai just. We just saw that that the. Warriors are going to cancel their football season. They are not going to play games. And you just wonder seeing happening in Clemson. We see it happening at Kansas State and you see it happening. Really across the country. There's a lot of infections right now, and we've been waiting for football to get started because it felt like that was the first one where we can. We should have a handle on this at this point. Maybe not. Well, I think you know you think about the. Of the the football season of historically black colleges. You got to also think about economics in the ramifications of them spending money spending money to travel to do all of those sorts of things. They can't afford to do those things they're not. Alabama USC Clemson Michigan. They're not the the power five schools. And, so it makes perfect sense because they don't necessarily have the medical benefits and medical people around I mean it's. It's a struggle just to get a gang plate. Let alone try travel. So you know I could certainly see how that happened. George Jordan now. George happy belated father's Day. Father's. Household yesterday. Thank you seem to you is and. Correct, he added know there was a new arrival. I didn't know it had arrived already so congratulations. No I thought. We talked about it last week I mean we talked about it briefly, but I know now with me. I didn't know that she had arrived it already, so that's why congratulations. No I. Didn't know some reason I thought we was on. The air talked about it, but I guess now. Why don't you follow him on twitter? Twitter. That's why that's why I brought it up I saw it yesterday. But I don't even remember what the Hell your question was. What was your question again? Were you happy. With how long you've been flying your confederate fact that's. Definitely not the case. George, what was what was your reaction to the news? That broke late yesterday about what happened at Talladega. Look what I would say is this is while it was surprising on one end. It really wasn't on the other end. Right like I think that that's just kind of the way I looked at him like really. Yeah, that's what we're doing in twenty twenty like that's what we're. We're doing and then I thought about it and I'm like yeah. Yeah, that would be the place where this would happen. You know what I'm saying like, and it's really unfortunate. It's terrible I will say this. I do want to commend bubble. Wallace 'cause man, is he? Is he taking all this stuff in stride and just handling it as best as anyone could handle it in this? Situation that he's having to deal with right now. I can't imagine being at that track were there is a sea of confederate flags outside the track? There's somebody flying the confederate flag over the track, and then you go into your garage and you see the someone has hung a noose I mean I can't imagine well feelings he must. He didn't see it. Yeah his team side, but knowing it was there. Yeah, knowing that you're surrounded by all of this this brazen symbolism of hey, it's just it's I. Don't know how the man goes into work every day with a Klan rally it he with any Klan rally. An event. That's what happened to him yesterday and Any attempt to try to make it seem isolated because there was one do. Is. Foolish is disingenuous, and it's not authentic to the mission at hand if NASCAR's mission. is to really change its culture where it can do is try and characterize what happened to Bubba Wallace, as one idiot, or just a heinous act now when you get the flag flying overhead, and he's circled outside the doors, fifty miles a salad of Birmingham. Epicenter of so much racism in this country. It's like Nascar. This is what I meant last week. When I've been writing and talking about on CNN and other networks that the statement was a strong step, but it's all about the follow through is about stepping up when it starts to get hot heat. where the heat's coming now and FBI's involved I'm looking at. We're all looking to see what NASCAR's going GonNa do not over half a bubble, but are having a culture that it says it no longer tolerate well to your point nosy. They're in for a long fight. I think because of what you talked about that culture. Right and I think that while it was encouraging that when when the confederate flag was banned and Bubba, Wallace was being celebrated that Nascar's ratings went up incredibly that particular week. But! They're that they're also is a deeply embedded culture. As you discuss their that they're going to have to deal with, and they're going to have to face and I. Don't think this is going to be something that is going to happen overnight with them. It's going to have to be a constant battle with a decent number of their constituency. June we'll be talking about all morning long. It's not going to be an overnight deal I mean we may at the end of the day. We may not even be here to to witness it. That's how long of a rich history of this behavior has been a part of Nascar your well. I'll say this key. You always say you live to be one hundred twenty, so we're not gonNA. Do it in your lifetime then we're in trouble I think. I would I wouldn't mind being a guy sitting on the porch. While from now talking about I saw it coming. You know. One hundred twenty may not do it because part of the constituency that we're talking about or the drivers or the guys changing the tires of the guys, pit crew guys up to the crew chiefs, and the statements coming out of that sport are not the statements coming out of other sports when we've seen moments like this. Travis the drivers seemed to be all on the same page to your point, I don't know the details of the pit crews and things of that nature, but at least outwardly the drivers seem to all be on well, you go back to the flag issue though George Remember when they first were NASCAR was deciding what they're gonNA. Do most of the drugs or whatever they decide to do okay with, and now it's I stand. Stand with BUBBA, but they're not aggressive Hussein whoever this person is, let's get him the hell out of here. Let's make sure that you support that guy. You need to get the hell out of here to. They're still trying to live in that middle ground. The does either in keanae involved in talking about really doesn't exist anymore, and it seems like the least the drivers in the staffers or trying to still exist there. Yeah, I, don't know I. was watching Marty Smith on I take and he cited now. Again I'm not super familiar with the sport, but. You know numerous drivers, though like citing numerous drivers that went on their social media. He mentioned a long list of guys that were. Talking about what you were saying. They will. Say dating with here and that. Was it nothing else? We stand with them like no Sunday. A little bit more than we stand with him. Yeah, there were a couple of guys that he specifically cited when he was on I. Take this morning as I was watching that that. You know basically saying we need to find this person like they went the extra mile I felt like and now what look to your point? Look this! Is We just discuss? It's going to be a long term battle. This isn't going to be something that's going to happen overnight. I was actually surprised that. In this regard that. If felt like Oh my God, we had turned this corner so quickly and unfortunately we now realize reality sets in and we haven't. Let's say let's hope that they don't. We all anybody we know climate through the garage putting it putting that new stare other drivers. Nobody like that none of our friends. No, I'm pretty sure we're all safe. In California's Saddam show is next. We'll see you tomorrow morning at six morning show ESPN.

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Let's take a listen. Number six, Wisconsin versus BYU four Mel. We like Wisconsin Billy you like Wisconsin. I like was like Wisconsin. I don't love him. I like him. Okay. All right. Well, this is not a test. It's a good test in name recognition. That's really about it. A BYU team that just and really, frankly, and I hate say since colonial Pataki got, there's really struggled on offense. Even though they've got a veteran quarterback, they got away with it and week. One against Zona didn't get away with it against cow last week too. Bad match up. I think against a stout defense and an offense that could run them over you throw in the camp. Randall effect and Madison is could be ugly in Madison, Wisconsin and BYU. Yeah, I think what you're looking here for Wisconsin is the offensive line's a little banged up. Thinking about Jonathan Taylor, he's gonna run wild, but all security's gotta be cleaned up with him moving forward, obviously. And you think about twenty Canada who looked great early on, but against Callie was limited to three one carry. Okay. The badgers defense allows three one a carry, so you don't think they're gonna be able to run the ball Mangum. Mangum is gonna have to put up numbers and the pass game that's not going to happen. I wanna see, Wisconsin play a game from start to finish. Dominant. As I said, the offensive line's been a little banged up. That's affected Taylor a bit Dari hornbook Brooke, obviously, moving forward, can he throw the ball down the field enough? Is his arm strength improved enough to give them a little bit more of a passing game. They can really threaten the defense that's going to be important if they're going to obviously be in the final four. Number twenty two USC at Texas Mel. Is there a harder to figure out game in the country today then USC Texas today? It's one of the games you'd say it's a, it's a pickup game. Now I know Texas is what a three, three and a half point favorite. But you know, one paper. What are you looking at it you two teams that are weak, the weak and what you're getting. And it's mainly because of the young quarterback Daniels that that USA a lot of new players, new entities there Elling there's more of a quarterback who season we know that, but they just they have not been able to play a complete game yet either. I think Texas is probably the team that has more of a chance to do that based on what you've seen. They have weapons and Johnson, and Humphrey, and Humphries obviously been the guy who stepped forward leading the longhorns in receptions, but everything's kinda hit or miss with them right now. And I think they're trying to figure it all out with Texas and USC the same type of thing. A lot of pressure on clay. Helton the ROY. Straighten this thing out this if JT Daniels is in fact the right guy moving forward, highly recruited guy. Everybody's got great expectations when you take over Sam darnold it's going to be very difficult, especially with them new entities. As I said at the skill position starry two teams that you're right, it's hard to really get a real crass for what kind of teams they are. USC scored three points last week at Stanford. I know Stanford's a really good football team and good defensive team, but three points with all of the skill that SE is supposed to possess all over the field, especially on the lightest at offensive line and skill positions. Yet they ran for three yards of Kerry. They turn it over three times, and then there's Texas who has a Texas alum told me this week at work. If Tulsa had a field goal kicker, they'd beaten Texas. I mean, this is I don't know what we're going to get, but at some point, one of these teams is going to have to break out and begin to approach the team that we expect that team to be over the course of this. Clay Helton pressure, Tom, Herman, I think even though it's young and early in his tenure, it could start to mount here. Somebody is got to show something in this game. USC hermits von taxes. The Herman let them evolve inside for now for clay Hilton. There is pressure. I don't see either one of these two teams being much of a factor of this year, so you're right. The Texas, the three and a half point favorite or paper. It should be pick him. Number twenty, three, Arizona state at San Diego State ten thirty eastern and sandiego Arizona state and her Edwards. How about that team? Twenty third, ranked team in the country. I keep saying twenty four. I'm costing them a spot to know after last week's win over one of my playoff teams, Michigan state. So team has played good defense in their last two in their two games. They will out sixty five yards on the ground this season sixty five and that's what sandiego state's gonna wanna do is run the ball, right? You want Washington just their most recent feature back, but can they do it against state? It is a good road test though for him. Sunday was no doubt, yeah. Is there any letdown after beating Michigan state? That's what you're looking at. Any letdown her obviously is gonna I'm fired up. We'll be talking to harm about that, but San Diego State. So one dimensional Dr. You mentioned Washington Washington, joined Washington, had that big first half against Stanford. It did nothing in the second half because David Shaw made the adjustments and there was no threat of a passing game Reshad pennies. Not there. To get that great returnability catching ability and running ability. He was the MVP of that team last year. They're stop. The run, San Diego say, can stop the run Baldwin's all over the field making tackles. But I think there's plays to be made in the passing game with Wilkins the keel. Harry, that's a guy they will not be able to match up with Harry is a special entity at wide receiver. I just think the passing game gets done for Arizona state over, like I say, San Diego State team that went offense starry just I just can't throw the football well enough. That's their main issue. And they don't have the running game because of that because there's no special town at running back like Rishaad penny was how about this game little off the radar. Number nine, Stanford versus UC Davis. You wanted this one. Yeah, and there's a guy out, first of all, don't we all love. You see Davis because Dan Hawkins is coaching that team, that's his alma mater. They beat San Jose State. They've got to win over an f. b. s. team that going to beat Stanford here, but there's a guy you want to watch. Yeah, it's a two o'clock eastern kickoff and for Stanford, no, Bryce love. He's banged up right now. But Keelan dos is a wide receiver for Cal Davis manual butlers or really good when northern Arizona watch him with the lumberjacks as well really good player. But I think you look at killin dos with his height, six, three, and his ability separate and make plays you. Wanna see him against Stanford. You wanna see if he can be factor in this game. And as I say, we're NFL is they will be on keel. Does this kid could come late April Dari being the second or third round draft choice there you? Yeah, somebody to watch for their Stanford and UC Davis, and then there's another one to UCLA and Fresno state, and you've got. A Fresno team that is kind of becoming a bit of a force, frankly, under Jeff Tedford in the early going at every opportunity beat Minnesota on the road last week did not do it, but now they've got a chance against it UCLA team that is sitting at own to after losses at home to Cincinnati, and then add Oklahoma last week. And probably if picking this game, I'll take Fresno. They're they're given a field goal in this game, and I would take Fresno. There are low. I mean, the the Jeff Tedford story is is is really, really good. He's got a quarterback that he likes a lot and UCLA just doesn't have guys. And that's just a sad reality right now for the Bruins. Yeah, you heard Troy Aikman in the broadcast Thursday nights. I, hey, hey, Bruins gonna win because if you look at it, they will open next week and then they have Colorado pretty good football team. People thought they would be at Cal Utah argh. Hey, the Zona game, October twenty. Yeah, Arizona is beatable team, but the rest of the schedule find me a win. I mean, this is a UCLA team that could finish the race. Season Dari to ten. I mean at very easily could with the schedule, they have. Yeah, it's a tough go. So we've taken you through a lot of the games that you need to pay some attention to maybe otherwise you're not. By the way. I'm just hoping that I have power to watch college football today here in Charlotte, this just not to not to freak you or crew out, but ten thousand over ten thousand in Charlotte without power now because of hurricane Florence, which is now tropical storm. So Mel, let's just hope that we can get through the next fifty forty, five minutes with me having power. Our listeners are hoping as well. By the way after one hundred years of making shaving cream Barbara cells finally making razors that was a no brainer. Try the barbasol ultra six plus was six within blades, save now at Barbara salt dot com. We're off to Vegas next Scott sprites three college games with the number, and it's one NFL pick straight ahead. Dorian male ESPN radio ESPN app. Now now Yep, you guessed it. I'm a speed bump, so I've got one job. I slow you down. So imagine how I feel about Geico who does way more like not only could they save you money on car insurance, but they've been around for over seventy five years, giving people fast and friendly claim service. Ow. Plus they got a nifty mobile app that gives you twenty four, seven access. Ow. Just doing my job buddy Geico expect great savings and a whole lot more. Yes. Right about now the Florence banging down my door. I wouldn't mind being in Las Vegas right now. Dr. Email, ESPN radio ESPN app always presented by progressive insurance August join the shell Pennzoil performance line. Thanks for the interaction on the one, eight hundred flowers dot com. Twitter feed at ESPN radio at ESPN. Dari got Crispell leakers picks earlier in the show time now to head out to Las Vegas, bring in Scott Spreitzer on the shell Pennzoil performance line. And when you look at the the biggest games of the Dan LSU Auburn or high state TCU Scott, is there a particular trend that might even be considered overwhelming or surprising either of those oil until you what? As far as LSU Auburn, you're talking about a situation where you know you've got sixty seven sixty seven percent of the tickets on LSU about fifty. Four percent of the money on allburn in Allred was as low as nine and a half. But right now kit at a half, not coming down anymore, and a lot of sharps out here feel that LSU's win over. Miami was a bit of fool's gold. That was what was being said by a lot of sharp action during that Miami win in the hometeam in this series has covered four straight LSU, though six straight conference covers. And so it's a situation here guys where the sharps jumped on it and have steadily moved it up. The public still thinks LSU's the side. Is there a game Scott where the public money and the sharp money is all in agreement? Yeah, there's a couple of them guys. One of the big liabilities right now for a couple of the major books in Las Vegas happens to be in the Fresno UCLA game. And I think it might raise some eyebrows because the Bruins opened as high as a two and a half point favorite that line is moot five and a half points. The other way in some books, seventy seven percent of the money on Fresno state. The public has a little UCLA, but they've started to come more and more on Fresno. And they've gone all the way from, like I said, a two and a half point dog Fresno to at three point favorite, but as far as overwhelming wherever. Everybody is on the same side Boise state sixty eight percent of the tickets that's more public ninety percent of the money. Overall, that's more sharp. Everybody's betting Boise state right now. All right, Scott, who are you? Like? Give us give us your first college. Pick roll through your three games of college picks force. Let's do it. Let's start with the Pitt Panthers who are taking on Georgia Tech today and pick it and four and we're getting value here. They got clobbered by Penn State fifty one to six. That was a seven to six game with less than a minute to go in the first half and blunders and mistakes. Turnovers all led to the alliance going crazy pit actually outran Penn State last week and held him to three hundred ninety total yard. That's hardly the equivalent of fifty point, outburst, twelve and five against the spread after allowing forty. And how about this guy's Georgia Tech has not won a road game outright since November of twenty sixteen. They've gone Owen six straight up. They failed to cover four. A row in this spot. We think the value lives with the Pitt Panthers. We took the points here Pittsburgh plus four plus four against Georgia Tech. One of the big ten with a intersectional game there, Scott, which you got laid the points with Wisconsin over BYU and the badgers kind of lolly gagging through their first two games. They won both by thirty one points each. They failed to cover both this spread obviously a little bit more reasonable. You want us win over. Irizawa means very little. Now that we've seen the Wildcats and they're an absolute mess. And last week it'd be why you lost a cow. They gained only two hundred eighty seven yards. They ran for less than three yards per carry in their quarterback Mangum completed only twenty two or forty. One passes couple of picks and BYU now want a one in six spread slide against teams with a winning record. We think that Wisconsin kinda wakes up and plays an entire game, and they kinda Rev up for next week. That competencies and begins and we laid the points here with the badgers, right? So Pittsburgh plus four, Wisconsin minus twenty two. Where else you going. We're going to go with northern Illinois, lay the couple of touch. Downs here over the team that allowed the Kansas jayhawks to actually beat them on their home turf at in that forty six game streak. We saw how that season is likely to be a tough one for central mission. I think it gets even tougher today in northern Illinois. Best team in the MAC really has a step down in competition. Remember they took on those stout deepens, is I in Utah? Both of those teams are top eleven and IPE insufficiency. They can be. They can be forgiven a little bit guys for struggling on offense, but with the competition level coming down and also how about this quadruple revenge for NFL you over central Michigan this week. I think this one gets ugly. We laid the points with northern hill. Perfect. So we got pit plus three and plus four pit plus for us at twelve thirty. Eastern kickoff over Georgia Tech Wisconsin minus twenty two over BYU like three thirty eastern northern Illinois minus fourteen or central Michigan. That as well goes at three thirty. Scott looks like in the NFL. You're going to wait until the final game of week number two. Yeah, we're gonna make everybody way here a little bit. Linebacking core four. Chicago is going to be terrific with Khalil Mack, the addition roquan Smith, the whole shebang. But you know, they did go quiet a little bit in that fourth quarter. When Aaron Rodgers came back and pensively after the gadget or surprise plays, kind of ran out. The options went silent in the second half last week. I expect you guys to challenge, but that five hundred season, but I don't think they're going to start to lose this game and Seattle have their chances last week in Denver they gave up the game winning touchdown in the fourth quarter of the bears are overvalued here, and I gotta take Russell Wilson over Mitchell Trubisky good things to come down the road for Chicago in my opinion. But we're going to back Seattle here plus the points and remembered. They've been monsters and primetime games under Pete Carroll. I grab the points with Seattle. All right. So Scott Spreitzer with the picks pit again, plus four at Georgia Tech, Wisconsin minus twenty two against BYU, Illinois minus fourteen against central Michigan Seahawks plus the three and a half at Chicago. Best of luck to you Scott. We will talk to you next week. Have a great one. Have a great one guy Scott. So there you go Seattle and Chicago. What do you think of that pick? Well, look at the one that got away. You can't lose that football game. It was. They had the Packers divisional game. And again, Mitch Trubisky late in the game, look like a rookie quarterback, and he's is the second year quarterback. But you look a little like deer in headlights. He looked like it just was the stage was too big singer and Rogers do what he was doing. Looking at Trubisky. You see a hall of Famer against a quarterback trying to just find his way. And I think a lot of it was the play calling. It was just not say, Dr. Just get the simple throws the easy throws the pitch and catch throws to keep the chains move, and they didn't do that. And the game should have been over with fuller and Khalil. Mack showed what he could do. But again, late night game when you needed the sacks and that's what you gotta close games out. Yeah, he wasn't there for camp. So you get a little worn down so late in the game, they weren't getting after it and he was able to sidestep a little bit even just playing basically on one leg. So he it on the defense. How can you allow Cobb the catch the ball at midfield run fifty yards for a touchdown that can split the fence like that? How can that happen? How come breakdowns like that happened late in the football game, so we can blame a lot of it went Bisky at the end, but even more blamed goes a full or not catching an easy interception and that defense allowing those big lives. Ridiculous, big plays that should never happen in NFL game ESPN. Radio presented by progressive insurance with insurance for cars, boats, motorcycles, RV's commercial vehicles at one, eight hundred progressive and progressive dot com. Real quick. A couple of games I think are interesting, Kansas City in an offense that lit up. My Super Bowl, champion chargers goes to Pittsburgh after the letdown to of a win what should have been a win in Cleveland and Browns came back and tied Pittsburgh chiefs and Steelers that chiefs offense looks awfully good. Good start to the season for Patrick Mahomes and Tariq hill of courses, nasty Vikings Packers. Now, how does the Vikings aggressive defense approach? Aaron Rodgers? They've got. To get after him. I know he's dangerous if they leave guys in single coverage, but how aggressive you think Minnesota will be well a lot. And I think what you also look at is teams that loss will they normally after week to what it we usually see any NFL a lot of one in ones. Yep. And that's where you get to these teams that didn't play well bouncing back and some teams that the public are going to be on. Because what happened in week, one that overreaction to a big win sometimes fall back a little bit. So normally, yeah, that the Atlanta Falcons and the Carolina Panthers starry Atlanta banged up team Dion Jones out is is, well, you talk about a look, great linebacker there. They also have another key injury as well in the back end with Keanu Neil. In addition to devante Freeman, they're fine running back now. It's only Tevin Coleman. So Atlanta needs a win, desperately and they're going to try to do it against Carolina. The falcons are known that there banged up on both sides of the ball, but how look at Carolina banged up loss, Greg Olsen lost, offensive tackle right, tackle Daryl Williams. Now they're down to starting tackles because of Matt Khalil's injury. They're both on. I are so protecting Cam giving Christian McCaffrey room. To run the football, not given either for Carolina. There banged up and I mentioned Aaron Rodgers. He's officially listed as questionable. So I suppose we'll wait till tomorrow to see if. So, yeah, I, I would favor the Atlanta Falcons over your Panthers, which is okay. All right. Let's go Herm Edwards, Sparky's coach. He's next ESPN radio ESPN app. Did you know ADT can design and install a smart home just for you a new smart home at your service customized for your lifestyle. ADT professionals can even show you how to use your new smartphone features. That's what I call warm-up service. It's all controlled from the ADT aft- or the sound of your voice and backed by twenty four, seven protection visit ATT dot com. Slash smart to learn more about how ADT can help keep your home safe and smart. Dorian Mel ESPN radio ESPN app. We'll give you a few thoughts perhaps on some underdogs that might have a chance here in about fifteen minutes or so. But as promised a man who wakes up before any of us and it doesn't matter what coast we live on a man who has done a phenomenal job in the early going as a head football coach in the Pac twelve Arezzo state head coach, Herm Edwards kind enough to join us at what is six thirty in San Diego where Herm is getting ready for. Tonight's game against San Diego State hermit as it is good to have you with us, man. So you guys go out, you're beat Michigan state your sitting at to take us inside your locker room after you guys beat Michigan state. What are you saying? What's the feeling in there? Well, I'm taking in obviously joy of winning the football game basis. I'm just sitting down and watching guys decided about winning and in the specially team or like Michigan state, if. That has DNA I'll let you say Michigan state you think about a football team that though this story over the last, what decade as always been one of those top twenty five, welcome most their physical and you know what's coming your house. Know what that game gotta play. I think our players do realize how tough it was going to be and I try to stress to them all week that look, this is going to be, you know, a double ten strap game, and there might not be a lot of scorn early in this thing and sure enough is enough, and and I told them at half-time. I said, look, if you the cold us, we're gonna be three of the game just to say we would take that. So now we gotta do is get into the fourth quarter and make some plays grip that to to win the game. Her mother. You've been up since what? Three thirty this morning. Your role in her? I talk about the tree to go from what we were doing. You were doing it? Yes. PIN with the NFL being your focus to going back to college, go into Arizona state reacclimating getting to know that game, though these kids. What was the biggest transition for you her? I'm the biggest thing that that you had to deal with in terms of trying to say, okay to come here and turn it around right away. I gotta do this. What was this that you needed to do? Well, you know, we're trying to run a pull model. And with that, you know players here that they don't know what that means? Well, a lot of it has how about doing our business as far as practicing as far as what we demand out of, and that was all, you know, it's just it's it's, you know what I've been in. But with that being said, all those years of Bristol, as you guys know the lifeblood national kickball scholars, that's what you drive. And so as I sat there, you know, I'm not just watching pro games I'm studying to college game was well, if you learn a lot of things sitting there because you have so many games able to watch because we're, we're located in the game to come across all the time. So studying the college game or something that intrigued me, the fact that it's a possession game and you know, foreign is critical defensively, it's a wide open in the sense you gotta be able to tackle in space that comes very, very difficult for you because of the national football quarterbacks don't run as much in college. They do. I think play. They really good red zone. If you can do those things that don't get caught up if they moved the ball because they're gonna move the ball and though that that's part of it, but how stand in certain areas, I think the critical. And so with that being said, you know high on that college football, you know, with a lot of time outs time, that's a lot of time out. And so you gotta get used well, but I think there's certain things in games that comes back to your instincts and how you wanna play the game. I think last week we were in the situation that we asked practice tracks a lot of situations. I believe that that and it got down to that fifty five north gonna have this last session and I walked in and totally offense. Hey, look, they might be in the ball that this is this work on. We should emit game when in the game without them getting the ball back on fourth enough to get a kick and win it, Arizona state head coach, Herm Edwards, joining us Doria male ESPN. Radio always presented by progressive insurance guest. Join us on the shell Pennzoil performance line Herm as being a part of the media for as long as you were, my guess is that you heard a lot of the reactions to your initial hiring to most people at came out of absolutely nowhere. There were people that that certainly questioned it. How concern what? First of all, what was your reaction to it? And Secondly, how did you handle it? With your players, knowing they may have heard. Lot of the same questions and criticism. Well, first of all, you got all enough. Although I worked in the media, I don't listen to it. I'm person. Oh, listen to this guy named Herm Edwards that used to work for SPN was great. I know that it's it's, it's different when you go outside the box, and if you think about Ray Anderson and Dr co based on outside the box, they'll hold tenure there. So it was something we've discussed when we felt that, you know, this is direction they wanted to go. I was all aboard yet the same values just to say structure of what we're trying to do with that being said, split your head down and go to work, but doesn't know what thing about me. The perception of others will never dictate my reality. I thought that way. I'll just go with that. That's why I know how to do, or I try to done right the players, you know, I don't know what the players ball and I didn't ask. I was gonna head coach. And look at like any codes you gotta win the players trust and I told him I got to earn the trust, and that's this how we're going to be things. And I think over the last like December, I think that's happened. No doubt, no doubt into get to your players, the guys that have allowed you to get off. This start just give me a quick little analysis of the keel. Harry. You're great receiver and Ronel ran is a defensive tackle. I'd say he could push pocket hermit. He is physically get the kit. I wouldn't just get your little quick scouting report on Harry on the offensive side and ran on the defensive side. Well, you know, of course, in the Under Armour game, so I had him. Him him into central role. I actually coached coming out of high school that was going to the killer is one of those big time players. So doubt about his stole powerful guy can really compete for the ball. I mean, he wants the ball, we've kind of moved him around and most matchups won't get throwing the football. He's good with the ball in his hands. Essay, big run on screens when the powerful man. Now his opponent kick NFL three techniques these mezro. He's about three or five right now, but phone to determine. Determine scrimmaging right off to really penetrating y'all. -fensive line disruptive helps. Great stuff. Her weep, man, it's early. No, not in your world, but it's it's early and it's good to have you on a game day. Joining us. Good luck tonight. It's India. Go state. Congratulations on everything that's happened so far in Tempe with the sun devil. We appreciate it, but effect much. Thank you. Good luck. Good luck. It's it's by the way, this is her coaches don't like to do interviews on game days. It's just a fact they don't Herm cool with it like, he's he's great man baseball season by the way. All my goodness. Are we in the stretch run what a race by the way in the National League West in the wild card race, make sure you're listening today. Now, the next few words are going to hurt. You hear Mel, although you like the dodgers anyways as Manny Machado and the dodgers. Sorry, visit the cardinals presented by Barbara razors coverage begins twelve thirty eastern on ESPN radio ESPN, radio dot com. And the ESPN app, you know, if manage going to leave the Orioles and the Oriels are gonna lose one hundred and goodness knows how many games, right? The dodgers better at least make the playoffs, right. I mean better. Make the playoffs. Ain't gonna be easy. No, it's not, but it's racial Rockies Diamondbacks cardinals and the wild card race. Yeah, it's been. It's been even in American League to see the Oakland Athletics play the way they have and what to a three from Baltimore to sweat, that it would have been a little better shape to try to catch the Yankees that home field for the wild card. But the Oakland Seattle, like they were going to be the team and Oakland stepped up and took control and to see the athletes play the way they have throughout the year and some no names on that team that people nationally don't hear a lot about that. A really good players had a chance to see them as I play the Orioles this week. That's a team. You just say, hey, there's a reason why Herm said you don't listen to all this stuff. Now, listen to all the preseason stuff. Don't listen to all the predictions. They'll listen all that noise. Keep it internal and don't worry about it. They are two and a half games behind the Astros right now in the American League West or the Oakland a.'s ninety and fifty eight. Nobody would have seen that thing coming as for the dodgers and cardinals. We told you about that game l. a. half a game behind the Rockies right now in the nationally west and in terms of the wild card race. Let me give you the updated standings here. Dodgers and cardinals are tied for the second wildcard spot. That's an enormous walk. You've got the first one right Milwaukee's four games, clear for the first wildcard spot. So there you go. That's our our baseball on the show. Glad we got some baseball in shorts. That's probably all we're going to. There's no probably about it, that's. That's all we're gonna give you. Oh, by the way, brewers one and a half behind the cubs. So they could, by the way you have some really good upset alert games they, I hear. I, you know, I told you last week about this thing that we do in the office just for fun. I'm really just for fun. We got seven games, ten of us pick him against the spread and we'll keep running tally through the season. Now I'm eight and five so far against in picking these games. So I'm a game out of first right now. Peter burns actually is nine and four. So he leaves the way, but really. Really four burns. He's wow. Okay. Yeah, six and one week. Last week we pick seven week one. There was a push, so we just took that off. That's why there's thirteen, but we've got. I'm going with one two, three, four, five of my seven. I'm taking the underdog, so tell you that is here. All right. Well, what's your take on them as well, Dr Email, ESPN, radio, ESPN app. You know, this seems like a good time l.. To remind people that aren't college game day on ESPN radio one eastern time, guess who's going to join the show at that time? That would be one thing Holger Gerston that would be take me home West Virginia. Mountaineers of course, cancelled game against NC state rally certainly is a mess right now. Charlotte is a mess right now is here. I'm looking out my window doing the show from home because they closed down our office for the weekend because of Florence coming through. But. Quite a bit of rain and quite a bit of wind out there right now, some folks in Charlotte or without power, think about ten thousand ones. Last number I saw fortunately I'm not one of them, so we still get to hang out on the radio here for this final segment. Let me check for an updated number that Matt power. So we're good. I know that I said before, I kind of aired. And what I said I said, our listeners were probably hoping it would be no issue. They were probably hoping that you were able not able to finish his could hear me have a disastrous end of this show you have no confidence and your soul host totalling zero, totally zero. Believe me. I know. I know I kind of stay in my lane Dari. I know. I know my weaknesses and those thing who radio show is not what I want to be doing. Its self awareness is key male. Exactly. And by the way, as you said during the break, if I lose power Mel said which way you Mike and Mike. PC or as we would call it Mike and Mike round to segment on ESPN radio, how much jets talk. Can you get on charter for ten minutes. Would it would certainly be that all right, you know we, but we like to do a little upset alert. I'm going to throw out some games. I like came l. underdogs I like either to win outright order, certainly cover. I want your reaction to. All right. All right. So attentive us at the SEC network every week. With route seven games and we're picking them against the spread. We're just keep a running tally who wins at the end of the year. I'm a game behind Peter burns right now eight and five. He's nine four because we had to push in that mix, seven games. I'm taking five underdogs to cover. Tell me what you think chronological order. I'm gonna take Syracuse plus three against Florida state. You like it. It's I don't like it. I think it was two teams of Florida state's got talent if going to show it. I mean, they got ability. It's just that they haven't put it together yet Dungy's a quarterback who I would say of the quarterbacks in college. He's kind of a special entity just has that aura about him that when he's healthy, he will find a way to win the football game. So I can't. I don't have an argument with you. Think of Syracuse could win that game. It's only three point spreads at the carrier dome. We saw Clemson, go up there and get beat last year. It's going to be rowdy. And Florida state has every every reason in the world at question, their confidence question, their ability after what we've seen through two weeks. State uniforms some week one just for your heart. How about this one I told you earlier? I like this team. I want vandy plus thirteen and a half, and I'll take that heartbeat. That scares me. I'm a Notre Dame fan and I'm always kind of critical of Notre Dame and always think the opposition thought I always think the opposition is going to win. So we saw that I, this is a dangerous game. They're not playing well offensively. They don't look good offensively even against Michigan. Think back to that game. You're right. They hit him early in the past play. Should've never been completed at defensive back was like the that defensive back Wilson for the Detroit Lions, allowing Anderson to catch. It should have never been completed. That pass from wimbush had never been completed, but it was sometimes you get you catch lightning in a bottle. You're lucky, right. Well, in this particular case, Vanderbilt was Shurmur playing better. They have some guys when defensive could fly the football. Notre Dame's offense right now is not real good. So that's a game I'm concerned about as as a fighting Irish fan. This is a game I circled as one, especially after the way they played last week that they better pick it up authencity and and I think vandy on both lines of scrimmage can hold their own against Notre Dame Vanderbilt here. Okay. Too many points LSU Auburn, gimme LSU plus the ten and a half. I think Auburn, a win. That's a lot of points. I so I like the LSU Tigers and that one. Okay. Boy, we talked about it. I wouldn't touch this game if it wasn't. One of the ones that that we picked for contest was USC Texas. I'm gonna take you plus the three and a half, but that was tough to pick. So I don't feel great about that one. I don't know how you can feel great pick and either one of these things. But neither one has identity right now. They don't. They haven't really figured it out yet. Both coaches, I think you'll get your health news right now. He's under when he's got to start picking it up. USC to be mediocre, isn't acceptable. And certainly, Texas is just trying to find her way with hermit. So you give them a little bit more. I just say, okay, I'll just wait and see at the end of the year where we are, and then we'll hopefully next year become a an elite program next year. But I think for USA I don't know where the USC is. So you go back to annuals the freshman quarterback, but it's a lot of young guys around him and defensively they can keep their core group of SARS healthy for the whole year that runs the side for USC should be strong. Yeah. And you can text us run the ball. We saw UNLV run for over three hundred two weeks ago. USC Texas isn't home. I know there's not immediate pressure on Tom Herman, but they need to win this game. Texas needs to win this game. And then Finally, I like Utah and the points tonight. Utah's the from what we've seen in this, the Pac twelve south is is not the SEC west of the big ten east, okay, it's not a great division. Arizona's a great disappointment. USC has been a disappointment. UCLA is not ready to win. There's no doubt about that. I, you know, Colorado's interesting Utah, though, I think is the best team in the south plus five. They're getting five at home against Washington rice-eccles in Salt Lake's, a tough place to go in and win. Washing Washington. I think Utah's gonna make them, I think have to beat them through the air because Washington, the tough team, the run the or Utah's attempting to run the football against emotions will be high. In that game. The crowd will be great. I don't trust the Pac twelve really in general either side of this, but I like Utah being at home tonight plus five Washington. Yeah, it's not the team not to make excuses. I pick Washington me in the final four, you hope team stay healthy and then you hope that they could overcome injuries. Washington has not been able to and the trae atoms not being there at left, tackle from gained one now that you thought he would be back. He's not. He had the back surgeries out for the year. That's a huge loss and not having Vida has impacted that defense more than I thought it would. They're a little softer now in the belly that defense and they were obviously with via they haven't been able to get Jake Browning of veteran quarterback. You would think this year would be as best year he would be at sixty five sixty eight percent. He's not. He's anywhere close to that. McClatchy has been the factor so they haven't been miles. Gaskins hasn't been a factor. So yeah, I I would worry about them on the road in a hostile environment, but going into year Dari. I thought this was going to be a final four team if you think they were final fourteen back in August, obviously. I thought they were winning football game, so I'm completely completely off base with my early prediction August about the Washington huskies. Well, here's what we know through two weeks. The combination of you and me have given the kiss of death to three of our combined eight play often or actually six playoff teams because we agree in Alabama, Clemson. So between us, we have six different teams go to the playoff, right? You gave it to Michigan Washington week one. I gave it to Michigan state last week against Arizona state is not out of it yet if they can run the table. What say you you've watched? I understand they're not going to run the Tate. Hey, Dr I've watched a lot of teams in the past NFL and college early in the year that looked horrible and have gotten it together. One of which was your Stanford cardinal who you picked. And then they ended up having a great year unless they wanna Super Bowl. I've seen it far too many times in my thirty seven thirty eight forty years covering this stuff that I'm not giving up on anybody this early. Hold on. Juke can't do that. Do you just last week you. You of fishery wrote off Michigan you that weren't. I came back five minutes later, and you said. Five minutes later, and you said, no, that's it. That was an emotional reaction to very disappointing start. Okay. Giving me motion the reactions. I did now giving a common sense of in. Okay, don't give up when your teams early. No. Give up on Michigan. You forte ended up by the way her Michigan. They sneak up on Michigan. Will you succumb to peer pressure, Josh Hypo, Herm Edwards to top twenty five coaches join us on this. Show props to them, stay safe in the Carolinas CSPAN radio.

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"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production now available on spotify apple podcasts. Podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You get your podcasts. The Rich Eisen show. I'm up for what you have to say if you wanted. Eight four two four rich from the rich Eisen show studio in Los Angeles Switch Lewis thing televised online at richeisenshow dot com. Today's guests from NBC's. Beverly Hills Dog. Show our Bosch Abi of Mila six time pro bowl running back. Sean McCoy Nascar Cup series driver Wallace actor and comedian David Spade. Golf channel analyst Randall. Shambley and rich is is time for a Friday edition of the rich Eisen. Show everybody we are well and healthy. Thank goodness Here in Los Angeles California Getting Ready for another three hour. Show or NBC. Friends will join us in about an hour. So it's just us right here in YouTube dot com slash rich. Eisen show on Sirius. Xm Channel Eleven where we follow Dan. Patrick's remarkable radio. Tv show every single day. That's also radio TV. Show right Chris that is TV radio no radio TV. It's over Siriusxm Channel Two everywhere. And we're here every every day. Good to see Chris that Hey This kind of has the feel of just a slight bit. Just if you take a moment soak it in a little bit of slight wee. Bit Sense of normalcy. We've got NASCAR this weekend. This weekend game this weekend into it roaring Dustin versus Fowler and Matthew Wolf on NBC locked in every shot that it's four hours of playing an actual round of golf so there it is driving relief in support of United Health Group and can donate money. Look at this is going to be really fun. I mean Wolf looks really past. The funny thing is a lot of people probably haven't heard of Matthew Wolf. Dustin Johnson looks photo shopped dusted. Had I mean he's also six five so the idea that he's Christie not obvious not just kill everybody not to scale then go. I'm into it. It's GonNa be awesome real fun. I got a Little Pool. Going with some of my buddies. You Got Barranca going Barranca. We're just doing it. What do you got? We're just doing a little like doing doing a prop out what you're doing we're doing props on like who wins the most skins long drive on hole eight. Are you serious? Oh Yeah we got about twenty different props. We're just going for it. I'm slightly gas but also very proud of you do you want in. Am I allowed to have its individual achievement? You just do it tell me. Tell me I'll I'll just enjoy the action from afar. Got It so you're really like take Dustin Johnson win those skins or right or you picking out of a hat. It's a round pick you want. And then we add up the total points at the end gotTa Muslim. Somebody's got to be doing this. For FOR NASCAR DARLINGTON. To write most laps led or your high acidity thing. There are sites out there. Rich what we're going to be honest we we have an actual competitor from this weekend's live sporting event bubba wallace getting set to race in Darlington. And so we've got that going force which is nice. That'll be on Sunday and then also on Sunday. The the aforementioned skins competitions seminar golf club. Correct that's where. We're seminal golf. Yeah Dan afforded in Juno Beach Florida and Brandel. Chamblee of golf channel will be joining us in the very end of the program sending us in the weekend preview an actual live sporting event. Our Third Hour. It's going to be previewing. Live sporting events EILLY. Oh well I'm the another thing is this is the ambiance from NASCAR every stretch says and I know right in the middle of that Right in the middle of that a very nice soft center because sweetheart of Guy. Love this man big big man. A A a a large figure in the Tiana World of course your lovely mother of Your Child Sarah Tiana's written and produced and reported from red carpets for this man while like eight months pregnant. David Spade. The wrong missy. We talked about it with. We talked about Jim with with Nick Sports and earlier this week. Now the Star of David Spade refused to jog around the pool. David wouldn't even want. It doesn't do any physical activity to the point. Where would not even jog? So David will be joining us in the final hour Shawn McCoy. We're going to cut on dime everybody. He's going to join us. He's not promoting anything. Just we're just gonNa just that's sweet. Now he does he have a team for twenty twenty. I don't think so. So in the teens he had the most rushing yards of any running back rushing touchdown. Look that up. Would you please Second Shawn? Mccoy will join US and Akbar Beija be. Mila will join us in about fifteen minutes time. We'll talk some football and we'll talk some dog show One of the stars if you will of American Ninja Warrior is going to be Behind the scenes contributor for the Beverly Hills dog show presented by PURINA everybody. That's this Sunday at eight eastern on. Nbc Akbar Be Mila. John John O.`Hurley a J. Peterman from back in the day we'll be in the booth with him and we'll talk to Akbar Bonjour. Bml about the lead NFL story. What's all new again? Christopher the last dance finishes up Sunday night. What's old is new again. It's going to be so sad when it's finally over. What's all there's been new for five? Straight Sunday's a quick romp through the house. Theon days of the Bulls. The ninety s can look that up. It's not a big word. Alert right yeah. The old good old days the best days the salad days of the Bulls in the nineties. So what's old is new again. How many times we've been talking about what's old is new again. We keep on reminisce at that reminisce. Button didn't see hitting the reminisce button on bountygate through. You're going to see it. Common All rain down judgement and we'll move forward. He's making it rain. All right allegedly didn't see common. You never see common. Don't know how it's coming. Yeah didn't see it coming. Barstool podcast right. That makes sense sitting down James Harrison. Barstool podcast let's get it's called. What's the NAT blowing? Deep deep deep now. Is that a metaphor about football. You're going deep with a football talk but the conversation was the first show. I mixed with Joe Buck. I'm Fox. Oh that's deep with. Wow Joe buck conversation. Conversation went pretty deep with With the James Harrison. And we're we're gathering that sound from going deep podcast barstool going deep pasta or should I just say it was on a podcast third. He said that's Willie. Cologne is one of the CO host. Podcasts okay he's foreign player. Yeah from the steelers right. Would that be yes is that maybe how they got? James? How's IT imagined. So yeah so. They were talking about The old hit that he delivered on Muhammad Massapequa in two thousand ten. And if you remember The browns wide receiver was running around right. Around the line of scrimmage and James Harrison just absolutely destroyed him unloaded on him being fined. Seventy five thousand dollars for that hit. Yeah and part of the reason why they hit was fined so significantly not just because of Harrison's history but the NFL was on particular alert that weekend to make a point if you remember. That wasn't the only hit that weekend that Dante Robinson blew off the Sean Jackson. Over the Middle Falcons Eagles. Do you remember that my Buddy Marshall Faulk pointed out on? Nfl Game One in the final week. That was Sean Jackson's fault. He should have known what defense was being employed. Marshall I listen to him and he was Riad Al. The Sean Jackson should have sat down instead of continuing as route. Right right right into a defender that was stationed there. If you knew your defense. Blew him right up. The worst of mall was Brandon. Meriweather going top rope helmet to helmet over the top on ravens tight end. Todd heap the reason why I bring up all I remember this like it was yesterday. I was right there on. Nfl Milk in the middle of this whole thing on total access. Game Day morning. The whole Shebang. This was if I'm not mistaken as well one day after Eric. Legrand was carted off the field at rutgers and as we all know he's still in the wheelchair and the NFL saw that and the NFL. This is in the middle of concussion settlements and lawsuits all of that the NFL decided right in the middle of the season to make a new emphasis on finding the proper strike zone in which to hit. Somebody see what you hit. That was the beginning of everything that you're still seeing. Worked OUT RIGHT NOW SO? They had a heavy hand in the following week. Heavy hand was also Mike Tomlin's because Nice Mike Tomlin. According to James Harrison headed him an envelope. The thing Mike Tomlin ever did now again. That is a good thing right. When you're site gangster? The Jesus Thing Mike. Tomlin ever did. He handed me an envelope after that Harrison said. I'm not going to say what he handed me an envelope after. That and the implication is that here. Let me pay your fine for you. That is from everything that I have known about Mike. Tomlin to say it's out of character is An understatement an absolute understatement. A man of the highest character and Mike Tomlin. Now I know Ravens fans will point on it and he stepped on a field right all that. Sorta stuff can lose your mind. Maybe in the moment of competition. If we're going down the Mike Tomlin if you will momentary lapse of reason. That could be used against him any moment like this to point out character. I know this man. I know this man very well. I think through being a through being a A constant observer of the NFL. For as much as I have. This sounds nothing like him. Here let me pay your fine. Let me get tens of thousands of dollars in cash his head like it's you know like you know the day of the Godfather's daughter's wedding that's insanity that's crazy. Talk man his agent Brad Parisi at the time and saying to the Pittsburgh Tribune Review. This never happened. Said I would have known that it didn't happen. James and I are still together. We were really close during our eighteen years. You've said something along the way as you might imagine steelers owner Art Rooney the second the president issued a statement on Thursday night. Saying this never happened yes. James Harrison went on instagram. This morning really long post. I'll read some of it. Wow y'all really comparing what I said to bountygate. Mike has never paid me for hurting someone or trying to hurt someone or put a bounty on anybody. If you knew the full story of what happened back then you know that. S Fine for a legal. Play was even penalized during the game. The week was getting pressure because the first concussion lawsuits were starting and they had to look like they cared about player safety. All of a sudden talks about how the League was selling a photo that exact same play on the website and so on and on so I don't understand talent. Overpaid him to hit anybody. Remember saying that he he. He reimbursed him for hitting somebody that what he did he did even well. Look he's intimating bountygate. Stop the connective. Tissue was Sean Payton. Who is on our Buddy Jason Lockenfora radio show and BOMER MARYLAND INSIDE ACCESS? This was all going down when when when Sean talk about good timing for Jason on his show Sean. Payton comes on the show. We all know he got fined. Six million bucks and how to sit on an entire season for being the head coach of a team that had a hole as the NFL out. An alleged scheme setup to injure certain players when the saints were playing them at the time. Greg Williamson currently the defensive coordinator for the New York jets. Oh boy I can't believe re-litigating this right now but it makes you cannot blame Sean. Payton for his response. Here's what Shauna to say. If people are waiting for the League to investigate that they shouldn't hold their breath I think you know what took place with us. Back in two thousand eleven in so many ways was a sham And and yet there wasn't a lot we could do with it. You know. The players were vindicated but from from the League or coaching standpoint. There's no union there's representation but I would be. I would be shocked if That'll be something that's tucked away or under the Rug Park Avenue briefly I listen. Don't get me started on that. I think you and salary in in in honestly it was. It was You know honestly something I'll never I'll never truly get over because I know how it was handled and how it was run in how it And the reasons behind it in. That's that's that's just the truth. CaN'T BLAME SEAN. Payton for that response in any way shape or form a lot of buddy all farm. Tom And I'm sitting here thinking so you're believing that I'll make for an interesting competition committee meeting next time on the zoom but you cannot blame Sean. Payton for adverse bondsman. Sean also said by the way that the NFL was not ready the NFL Replay system and the NFL. Let me get the exact statement right here. He said that the NFL was not ready for the NFL. Officiating in New York City was not ready to have pass interference placed on its plate. I think we outside another state. You can't fault him for saying Jason Lockenfora Show Sean. Payton called into yesterday. We get him on In next hour during your new segment Chris at a little bit more flush out. 'cause Cam Newton still out there too. I mean what's going on. There is really. I guess he's just going to wait till Somebody gets hurt players come back in and invariably somebody's going to be and then he'll just slide right into starting spot going to have to be a starting spot because if you're really going to be a having a competition here if you're going to have a competition he's GonNa he's GonNa win it right if it's truly an open competition if let's just say Jacksonville is going to be like. Hey let's have a competition to team Cam. Newton with big chip on his shoulder fully healthy age. Thirty one and Gardner Menchu. That's the end of the story. Yeah I just can't if we're GONNA have in Washington DC. And the little moment between Cam Newton and Ron Rivera and bring him in any a Second Year Dwayne Haskins and Kyle Allen who had a nice run last year. I hope solid run last year for Carolina and Cam Newton with a huge chip on his shoulder fully healthy common. It's an open competition Kim Newton's winning that competition so we'll hit that I can't believe where re-litigating this thing right now but James Harrison is not wrong pointing out the sensitivities that yeah the massive Massapequa hit happen to other hits that weekend. I remember Ray Anderson who was the VP of football operations. At the time he was all over that saying we are changing the way players hit and the players were like this. The sort of stuff you normally tell us in. May So we can work on it. You tell us you tell us this in April after you hit it at the meeting or if you do it late in. May you tell us in June so we have all training camp all. This is the sort of stuff that you flag like crazy during preseason. How many times do we have? An annual are up in arms conversation about what's happening in preseason with all the flags and the holding is you know went into the regular season this year until Tom Brady tweeted about it during a Thursday night football game and that was the absolutely okay happened but that it was at the time in twenty ten a middle of the season. If I'm not mistaken we're talking about. This is an October so this this this sounds like a week. Four week five. Hey middle of the season. We're GONNA change all that say you know. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. You know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO gyco makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's GEICO DOT COM G. I. C. O. Dot Com was October playing at that time. Very rarely do I say that sort of stuff. But let's bring him on right now Great Finding the program he's been with. Nfl Network for it was with NFL Network for some years in two thousand twenty twelve on no. He was already out of football at the time. That was week. Six and okay And what he has built himself is quite a hell of a career post playing career also on American Ninja Warrior. The author of everyone can be a Ninja. Find your inner warrior and achieve your dreams now available now in paperback and now part of the Beverly Hills dog show presented by that's NBC. On Sunday night at eight eastern time. My friend Bob Miller good rich. You have a dog too don't you? I have to Sir okay. I figure that I have to and we have to rescues but they are purebreds. My Wife my wife Saw a golden retriever. About Jeez right around this time. Two years ago Who was thrown in a trash can believe it or not Boina Park California. Wow we went and got her and then there was a white English golden that was tied to a boat. Somewhere near the Nevada California border we will drove and got her and and Akbar every single time we have a dog in our household which is now now twenty years running. I get knocked down a peg in terms of the most important being in the house. I know I know exactly what you take and I think there are a lot of husbands exactly when my wife and I we got married Two thousand three we moved down here for NFL network. We rescued Hudson who was roaming the streets of southern California here in Los Angeles. He was a mix we thought he was. He had to be a mix of a German shepherd and a lab and KITA. There was also. He's a beautiful dog. Feed live fifteen years out real quick because this this is one of my pet peeve no pun intended well when people start naming just like oh my dogs Akita this and they didn't do it. Twenty three and me on dogs they. I don't think they do that like so. Oh Oh yes they do. Are you kidding? Me On Akbar yes they do and my one call my Susan. Twenty three and me like we. Yes you can do this Yes yes absolutely. Oh Wow this is no longer cheap in. This is an interest. You say that again Chris you could say I mean he's I mean. It seems like you should know that before you host a doug show you know you know? I'm not I'm not a DNA specialist. How many how many how many how many mixed breed rescues were at the Beverly Hills dog show presented by Paras Zero Bluestar Ski. Well you know because the duck show. They have new breeze that the American Kennel Club Just allowed in the bay which is a fringe dog. Dogo Argentino now doug no yeah. A lot of people are on note but That's been kind of my side. Passion is Our dogs train. My Dogs I had mixed breeds. I so my dogs don't qualify to be in the Beverly Hills dog show but That's just one of those things. I remember early on my very first couple of years at the NFL network. I would go after. Finish doing the fantasy show I would go train dogs my wife. What are you doing you spend all day at the studio and then you go train people's dogs and I would do it for like fifty dollars just because to me was a time to get away. Love spending time with the pet. I never advertised it. People heard about it trained. Everything from German Shepherds. Two Pit Bulls Never Mix dog actually believe it or not. Never chained mix Gawk but anyways. So that's kind of how this popped up for me. The dog show. I wanted to do more or less behind the scenes of ourselves. Maria Menounos We you know we do the behind. The scenes is kind of taking you to like because there's a lot that goes on which reminds me a little bit about the NFL and professional sports in the preparation for these dogs. And what they have owners and the trainers That they have to go through in order to get the dogs ready from the concentration drills to all of the manicure pedicures. Whatever it is that they do For the grooming for the dog so it's pretty intense so it's It's definitely going to be a great family. Show to watch This weekend oh we'll be on that that's for sure your big hit my household. Is You know. Ach Bar because of the American Ninja Warrior. I've told you that over and over and over looking hopefully to get back into filming we've been off. You know kind of put on pause right now of course given the virus so we're open get put back on the on the go here. We'll see kind of how things unfold obviously a very fluid thing and but this is a great time we took talk about. You know. Sports in how sports is kind of rolling out. I think this is a kind of a great way to get a little bit of family and family time in some sports thin with the. It's a different type of show but these are dog. Ninja warriors so to speak. I love it I love it. Well let's put a pin in the dog conversation for a moment and and circle back one more time because I love dogs as much as you do too here. Let's talk a little bit about the the NFL story of the day. Did you hear this about James Harrison? Akbar I I heard the seventy five thousand dollars that he's five for that big hit and Mike Tomlin just gave a of look like like on the streets like Yo here you go clean that up kind of thing I I. I'm of baffled by that but I always know that. A new change Harrison has this issue with Mike Tomlin. 'cause he and the. Who'S THE Antonio Brown that he and they've Kinda partnered up and they've been buddy buddy and it looks like from me just just and again. I don't know that locker room had not been and I'm not saying what he's lying or not I don't I don't know but I do know. They partnered up him. And then Tonio of this smear campaign against Mike Tomlin so It's odd that we come out at this time I I don't know why he would give me five thousand dollars. Harrison's Uber amount of money more than the Mike. Tomlin why I mean. Just let's just let's just throw it all out there then but in in your five seasons playing in the NFL and multiple seasons of covering it knowing as many players as you do. Have you ever heard of something like that? Were never ended the player. No no I mean. I think there's a lot of a lot of stories out there about the Oakland Raiders You know the bad boys of sports and bad football And I've seen some crazy. Things with the raiders But that that we're going to happen. That would happen under the in the mystique of the Oakland Raiders of the. I I just. I don't know what coach is making that kind of cheese to go here. Seventy five REX For for for for that hit the you know you're GONNA get five war until you go. I'm pay your bill for just I've never heard of it. Yeah I and so out of character for Tomlin onto you know I mean it just makes no sense that Tomlin's GonNa be like a great hit and you know and and days after the the the hit. He's still so intense an outraged by he's GonNa find a whole bunch of cash ticket envelope and handed the James Harrison. Who hasn't said ANYTHING ABOUT IT FOR TEN YEARS? I think what we have to do you kind of have to look at the relationship To be able to get a little bit more Behind this story just because you put something out there especially right now. I think the sports world were starving for stories. And this is a great way. If you're GONNA you know maybe engaged in a smear campaign or just to get your name floating out there. You put a story out front like that But how do you verify something like that? You know what I mean. What are you going to go on a paper chase? You GonNa go look at ten years. I think after seven years. Don't pay erasure bank statements title. I don't Think Seven Years Gordon. Seven years and get your bank records. So how do they even find that? You're I mean dock bar Zhabei Amila here on the rich Eisen show. And there's one thing that Harrison did point out on What is this instagram fee today? Chris when he brings. Us is that is that there was He did get caught up in what the NFL Was doing at the time. Which was midstream in the middle of the season changing the way that they were asking players like a point at a point of emphasis midseason which never happens. That never ever happens. They usually will add a point of emphasis in the off season. Or The preseason if you want to be late but very rarely they say we're going to add a point of emphasis on hitting somebody in in the in the game and because it's Harrison points out. The hit on massive wall was not flagged and it was you know find later on which is there is that happens all the time the NFL. But I remember that I remember that it was that hit. It was the hit that Dante Robinson blew up to. Sean Jackson. Granted meriwether in top top rope on todd heap. So you know he's kind of right about that. Yeah Nice with it doesn't give reference but I yeah I do remember that hit and also remember that time and that was a very frustrating time too for players that since players just because it's like you know a lot of that has to do with muscle memory and now he's telling me to change that especially when you know those Bang Bang plays instincts very hard to just say we're gonNA find you because you can't you can't turn that off That's that's awkward. That was weird But who knows. I wonder where to go. I don't know go on rich to be honest with you Unless you can show. The He's got bank statement and proof that seventy five thousand dollars hour so let's switch gears a little bit here. Why do you think can I get asked this question all the time what? Why isn't Cam in a camp right? Now wasn't a job. Do you think I I bet that one is baffling to me Because the two disc Kim Cam. Newton is still a very very talented quarterback and I would have to imagine that it has a lot to do with you know personality And how he fits into because you know watching this last dance thing and it Kinda takes you back to being in the locker room into the dynamic and chemistry of players and we have moving pieces. You can still talented and yet When especially I'm talking about with the Isaiah. Thomas Magic Johnson Olympic Ninety two Olympics and just to hear Magic Johnson Jordan them talking about just. The Dynamics of the two people forget about that Isaiah was in a bum. But you know he felt that they were gonNA he was gonNA be disruptive to that team. I think there's concerns about Cam. Newton BEING DISRUPTIVE TO ESPECIALLY CLEVELAND. That could go far but I just don't know where he would land. I look at all of the different teams like go. Who's GonNa but CAM new the question? 'cause I cannot imagine football without Cam. Newt right twenty twenty season. That just does it. That's not realistic. I mean he's better than a lot of quarterbacks out there I agree with you I think. Maybe he's just going to wait until somebody gets hurt or I don't know or hopefully you know whatever's going on with the virus can can be ease to the point where you know therapeutics palliatives. Whatever opens up to be honest with you. I thought he was going to end up with the chargers. I thought if anybody could with With the way to charge has been struggling to get you know fans in the seats. You know cameras got the looks. He's got the talent has got that. La Player Swag. It would make sense. He'd would be able to bring you know seats in the air. He's got that thing where people are want to come see him and I just thought it would make sense On so many different levels in when I saw the charges going different directions. It's kind of a head scratcher. Well I mean I think the yellowed with Brady didn't work and that was it. They GONNA go yellow with somebody who might have A foot shoulder. Or what have you but to me? I thought that they would compensation right end up rich. I don't know somebody's GonNa get hurt first. Somebody's gotta get her put. Listen to what you're saying that that's crazy crazy hurt but the reason why the reason why the reason why. I brought up politics and I brought up therapeutics. It's because somebody's got although I gotTa tell you what man I keep saying this but they gave Brady a physical. They've apparently todd. Gurley how to get a physical. I mean physicals could be could be gotten through reputable physicians that everyone can agree on is is good enough cam also like if he want if somebody wants to hire him you can send a plane for him right and then he can show up somewhere. Hopefully covert nineteen free and get this physical. It's really weird man. I I you know who should go real talk. I'm just thinking about this before it went on people got crazy. I can't believe it happened When the Cleveland Browns when got case Keenum I call at maybe two three weeks prior to and if it they're gonNA go after case Keenum Because it makes sense and I don't know the financial I'm just kind of off the top. This is more of an emotional thing but Because of the different pieces that they have over there in Cleveland. I think you could make something make a case that I'm still not a believer in in Baker Mayfield. I think he's a guy that's trying to manufacture leadership I'm not saying that he's not talented but there there's just a couple of nickel he missing. I think Cam Newton would be a better fit for the Cleveland browns. That would be amazing. I mean if twenty twenty twenty twenty only could have that added to it too. I just don't know how that what happened though. That would be amazing. Wow I can't even imagine I mean cam the Odell and cam the Jarvis and what Baker but the lake man. This is the truth. Oh Baker evaluation season they have. They have set up. I've said this before. I'll say it with you here on the phone that that they have set up the ability to evaluate Baker in a way. I wish the jets had set up themselves to evaluate Sam darnold unless they just feel that Sam darnold always been already been appropriately evaluated and it doesn't really matter that they are going to just keep him past Year four year five. Pick up his option. Figure out what to do then but this is truly a Baker Mayfield evaluation here when you say it is. I thought last year was in evaluation but then it turned into a excuses. Well this that and the other and you know commute kinda clear that thing. I saw early when you again. You know that manufactured leadership. I'm going to try to fake it and call teammates out at the beginning at getting during the off season and then I'm GonNa trying to talk my way through this. I'm trying to fake it till I make it kind of thing. And and he's just kind of went south and there was so much hype and again. That's a lot to carry it all. And there's a lot of hype and then there's the stash gate and the all this other stuff and I'm like he's not he's more or less wanting to be famous team especially to can impressionable like that. And you get Beckham in your in your locker room. He's got that cool factor. You WanNa be like him. I saw a lot of looking kepting on picking up on you know as a player you can pick up on how he wants to be like him. He's acting like that. Oh know your your quarterback. You got to be focused on ball. You gotta be focused on leading. That clue which play first before you start trying to dress in talk like you know a quote unquote leader and Yeah so anyway. Yeah that is. That's pretty much it A couple more minutes left with Akbar Bajour. Emily here on the rich Eisen show. Okay so set the table for me Sunday night. Eight eastern Tom Settling in. And and what am I GONNA get? I'm GONNA get dogs. I'M GONNA get a looking at all these wonderful beautiful creatures on on the planet and somebody gets crowned the winner round we. We're bringing back to have a niece. Bono dog who won last year and he's obviously the favorite bone of the favorite to win it again. Okay but there's some new dogs who are coming into the competition. You'll have your sporting you're gonNa have your work in group Those are the dogs that around and you know they got that little strut by the Beverly Hills Dog. So the twenty one. I think it's going to be a real good one you're gonNA see some athleticism and concentrate But yet they go on. Nbc It's It's it's it's it's. It's a great sporting event. I can't wait. That's GonNa be a lot of fun man and if one of them goes potty on the floor we see you going all going up going out with an envelope. Go Up with an envelope to vote. Gary I have become really good friends over the years. where she she. She has her shampoo line and she provides them with all the shampoos dogs. It's amazing Product by the way but They're hoping for celebrities out there to up the POOP got me I sit back. Mario Lopez you know. Locate my flip in football over there. If you saw that so I gotTA BE HONEST WITH YOU. Akbar. I'm learn more and more about you every single time. You and I talk so I did not know you and Bo Derek away back. I just didn't know that we don't go back but I mean for the last three years at Beverly Hills talk show three years back but okay okay. There's that and I had no idea that when you would be leaving. Nfl Network. After all those years. You'd be going home to to to train to train. I think yeah if you ever have problems with adults you know I could. And now that get purebreds. I can make trustee biking and not to mention I mean you. You're very familiar with nine. One nine hundred to do I get that right. Well we are. We are very look. I don't WANNA I don't Wanna I don't want a picture painted of me here. We have rescue dogs and my wife just saw this golden and it just happened to be she thought it was. We didn't know that it was a pure bred. Look you're bringing man. I saw nickname is rich. Because obviously you're rich actively fight a straight dog at the pure breed just in I don't know has. The Dog was right near Angel Stadium. So let's let's let's that's where the dog was and we went and drove to go get her and then the one that we was as far from there wasn't a hill there wasn't a beverly. There wasn't Bill Derek. There wasn't anything where we picked up the whiting golden. I'll tell you that nothing close to a perfect ten where I went to. We drove him. Picked up that dog. Thank thank you. We'll give you such he such an excellent trainer. Chris now I know I Maurice Jones drew started using the proper bathroom. That wrong was that was that conversation is officially off the rails. And you know what that was? That was a great tactic right there to get it offered you being rich in in in in only selecting straight dog. That are pure hot in here. I thought the worst of shortening of my name was Dick. And now it's now we've got something else here eight now. Hey now we are off the rails bar but look man no. It's all good. I'm looking forward to seeing you on just love watching you look at you on and on network television on on Sunday night. Eight eight stern on NBC. The Beverly Hills dog show presented by Purina. I look forward to it. Thanks all stay in touch. Let's Let's stay in touch oak. Take care of that's Akbar Bajour the Akbar under store underscore Bajour. Which is the. It's the silent g everybody's silent G. G. B. A. J. on both twitter and instagram. Right here on the rich Eisen show. Let's go to the GEICO fan phone line. 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Suzy says to me I think this is a pure bred golden and she told me the whole story. We go down to Buena Park. We pick the dog up a local vet. They rescued the dog from a trash bin. That is insane fact. We bring her home and she starts yowling. Which as you know. Golden retrievers don't do and we thought this dog might have Beagle in her or or anything like that. So yeah we swabbed do. We sent it off. They came back. One hundred percent. Golden retriever. Well which was a shock to you. It would've been a bigger shock. If it wasn't in the household would have been like. We still loved her. She's still great loving home. Halo the dog every. Hdd If you're scoring at home halo the doll along Dylan the dog DTD. Salo was instagram Halo does not regret not crazy. We're not going to have a dog around too by the way With all due respect to people who do that with their dogs need I back ended the with all due respect and there are lots of people rams you do Mike Let's go to Jason Florida. You're here in the rich. Eisen show on the GEICO fan line. What's going on Jason? Hey Reggie and the big huge fan otherwise first of all thank you and and this is the first time I've ever cost show. Welcome out. My son was a ballboy with the steelers in two thousand nine to two thousand eleven. Okay and if if if coaches this from from some way on the radio or some other way I'm GonNa Calling Mike Survey Understand. I going my whole family called me coach But I think James Harrison Ottmar pointed out. The arison has a little something going on with with with coach. I remember the end of the season when he went to the playoffs He basically forced his way. Out of Pittsburgh So that was the start of this. Come Down with with my And then Teamed up with Antonio Brown and kind of borrowed out this this conversation how Barcelona. I'm not sure he was. He was trying to do something harmful or he was trying to get back in good graces my thing. I think I can tell you. The values g. The G. point out to Jason is that is that if he did have an ax to grind and is trying to make. Tomlin look bad. He's saying he's dressing it in the form of a compliment right and so good one one second. Sure think about this. Two thousand nine names Harrison made thirteen million seven hundred thousand or something and then pitching thousand ten. He made seven million five hundred and Mike was on his third year contract and two and a half million a year But he's he's a he's a player's coach and I I would see like like more. Wouldn't he was in the service contracts? There's working contract. It was a four year. Three million dollar contract Certainly making ends meet. But he's not a wealthy guy yet. This is only third year the league any yeah hit on bringing a late. Tom Brady and was very very questionable. He got a twelve thousand five hundred dollars. I know I know this is by the way this is prior to two thousand eleven when when coach. Peyton with with suspended right before so I could see in meeting with the team saying okay. Here's here's an envelope to more. I got half that with you. In twelve thousand five hundred dollars. He say we're working together. Here's that but boy if you watch the replay coaches one. I got on the pill because he saw match walk down. Oh yes absolutely. And that's and that's more obviously Tomlin's character and thank you for the call Jason and make it more often. It's amazing what brings people out for the first time to call into a show. Eight four four zero four rich just again to put all in perspective. It would make sense for a coach to tell his his. If you will enforce her on defense hey you blew him up. And you're being fined for it and it's not fair because we're all teaching this sort of stuff or this is what everybody's doing in the League right now and it's not fair that they're now changing the way that they want to emphasize player safety right in the middle of the season. But I don't think that that wouldn't even if Antonio Brown was part of a cabal will wouldn't you say by now? Antonio Brown would have led out. An envelope was but then again. Why would why would harrison? Just make it up. This is so weird well so I haven't heard from Antonio Brown and I will just say thank goodness because hopefully he's an a spot getting his mind right for a return. Football should his outside. The football world realities be cleared up in a way that allows him to do it. That makes any sense. It's just weird and I'll just council any athlete right now. If you're going to dredge up history and you're gonNa make an assertion that is wild. Be careful because we're all looking for stuff to talk about right now. Certainly in the old. What's old is new again stuff. Yeah we're GONNA find careful. This thing will obviously go away. I think it will go away fast because by Monday. We're GONNA HAVE NASCAR to talk about a little bit of golf in the last dance. I don't I don't think anybody's GonNa be talking about this but it will be. It's going to stay all day today. No robot it'll stick like. Hey memo and Harrison said that about the envelope for sure. Tomlin imagine sticking a bunch of hundreds in an envelope and handing it to the players saying I got you really. That's just that sounds will. I'll sounds a little farfetched. Victor in Vegas right here on the rich. Eisen show on the GEICO family. What'S UP Victor? Hey Rich First Time caller. Hi My Chris. How's everyone doing time? Callers looking the Party. What's up So I mean we've all heard by now. What happened with allegedly happened with the Andrew Baker yesterday But there seems to be notion going around especially in giants twitter where everyone's perpetually outraged that either ownership or the GM It should have seen this coming reported. Character concerns before And leading up to the draft with the Andrey Bacon and I just. I don't get it. I don't get how you can make that kind of jump. I'm wondering how you guys haven't heard that to be honest with you might be in You know various chat rooms boards or or or have friends I. I don't know how you could pin. I mean you could. You could eventually pin bad behavior On on you know on a general manager I guess but Dave Gettleman just trying to live his life thinking that the giants are all going to be in quarantine right. I mean not about that. That is a wild wild story to say the very very least I I wouldn't I I don't know is the only answer to you. I I have no opinion on that other than the fact that it's a sad state of affairs and I'm sure I wouldn't want to be the one to make that phone call to get on her. Joe Judge how do you think Joe's GonNa Handle that? Joe Is not going to be handing an envelope the Andrea make up for his Poker losses let's put it that way right four two four rich number. Thanks for the call. Victor let's take another one Alan in San Diego. You're here on the rich Eisen. Show it's up Allen Highridge had a question slash hot take for you know being Fanego Amateur Fan and obviously. They made some big changes. It's off season new stadium. New Uniforms rivers still lot of new things going on. I home game and the brand new stadium was against the champs that she is this a must-win game. I don't think any week one game is a must win game but you know. Here's the thing that I'm finding interesting. Allan. You're the second person from San Diego to call in a couple of weeks saying that you're interested in the chargers you didn't. I'm the same guy that you're the only guy then. I mean you're still I mean it's fascinating to me that you didn't just sit there and say to hell with them. You know I just but in terms of a must-win game look brother. I can't term anything a must win game in week two it would be helpful to win. Your Division Games is helpful when your division games at home you know and thanks for the call man you hang in there and keep calling back about and soon you'll be you'll be calling about we'll get let's put it this way. I don't think we've gotten a single call from Saint Louis talk about the rams still waiting for the I still Eddie. Look you've got to win your division games. You got to win them at home. I mean let's for sure it's still crazy to me that the chargers let Philip Go. Why no that? That's not surprising to me I. It was time it was time but suddenly he's going to be a different player in Indianapolis because he's going to have a better running game and better protection. Yeah Yeah Do. And there's something about them chargers man that when there's five minutes to go on the clock crazy things happen when there's five seconds on the clock crazy things happen and like say Tennessee. Last year that was one of the most chargers finishes football game. I've ever seen they had. They had the game winning score twice only to have it overturned by replay. And then the third attempt is a fumble which by the way replay couldn't overturn because of all the human mass that was around the so the the the the ruling on the field had to stand twice the ruling on the field was overturned and then the last time the ruling on the field. We had to stand because we couldn't get indisputable evidence. Eight four four zero. Four rich is the number to dial. Here's our lineup. From a great chat with Akbar Bosch. Ibm L. OF WHITE DOG training. And by the way I don't know why through Maurice Jones drew under the bus like a little weird as fun. Shawn McCoy is GonNa join us and we added Jason Lockenfora to the mix to. He's going to join us for your news update because he's the one was talking to Sean Payton. That's the connective tissue to bountygate. I don't think anybody would have done that. Had Sean Payton not shown on on lock and Fours Radio Show and Baltimore which I have been on? I wonder if and talked about. It'd be interested at that was a already scheduled appearance or was already scheduled out that absolutely. Saint James Harrison through this out and they were like hey champagne. Yeah I don't know if you heard this. Which is what we do a lot of did that with this talking about today. The Shawn McCoy. You think you might have a take on that I write the Shawn McCoy who played his College Football Games. The home of the Pittsburgh steelers Yup. The Pitt Panther who Made some hey across state and Philadelphia and then has a super bowl ring. Come IN HIS WAY ANDY. Reid try in the Super Bowl. He was an active Baba. Wallace will be joining us as he's getting set to make left turns in Darlington. This comment Sunday. How about that? It's common and We'll chat with him. I cannot imagine what what is it. 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NFC East/AFC East Win Total Predictions, Division Odds, Futures (Football 5/12)

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NFC East/AFC East Win Total Predictions, Division Odds, Futures (Football 5/12)

"What's up everybody? Welcome to the fixings. Podcasts sports daily NFL podcast. I will rinse it either. Your host it is Tuesday may the twelfth. We are rolling right along into the off season and this is gambling week. You can check out a multiple divisional win turtle pods in the feed. It'd be the first one the NFC East and AFC east wind turtles and future stains. You might want to bet on highly recommend to that even though this is gambling week or gambling week you go back and check out by pod with RJ White. We'll be joining me in a second on the awards from last week if you listen to it and you took are actionable items and you rolled with them. Then you've probably already got some good value because a bunch of the stuff that we told you. Bet On yeah. We moved the lines baby. We did that. We did it last year to hit me moved to Mitchell trubisky line. I didn't work out well for us. 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Thomas in two thousand six hundred twenty six rushing touchdowns or Randy Moss. Or you're the one that bought into Peyton Hillis centers big season as mad and cover all this week. The fantasy football podcast is becoming fantasy football yesterday. They're looking back at the best and seizes the last twenty plus years of fantasy. Football the Mount Rushmore. Each position the biggest breakouts of Boston all the best memories fantasy football since the late ninety s relive it this week for five episodes of fantasy football yesterday on the fantasy football today podcast available wherever you find pick six. I love the idea of a the Halcyon days. Fantasy football RJ white. I have to imagine that you have played fantasy football for some time now. I played football fantasy football since I was. I WanNa say twelve maybe eleven. Yeah it was your. Who's your first. Who's WHO's the first the first star on your team. I think my first draft pick if I remember right it was Carl pickens. Wow why foul old school nerdy. I was overseas movement. That was in. The military was living in Belgium. I was in sixth grade. I believe I was looking up box scores. You know on the Stars and Stripes newspaper where they came in every every Monday at Brigham to To school and I I'd compute. Are We know the people that I tricked into being in this league with me because nobody was really that into So I was doing on my own keeping it all tracking a notebook super nerd even back then so We did I do that with my dad and baseball when I was a kid and we had like a League where we draft the team and we would like a sheet mail. Do us like where where we are in the standings Howard guys done etc. I didn't really get into fantasy football until like ninety eight or ninety nine. Maybe ninety six but the I I remember. I'm in a league now on CBS. That I was in Star in that we started in ninety nine at NC STATE. A bunch of my friends. And I it was on sportsline dot com then and I distinctly remember think Or maybe yeah. I guess the draft so my to Kurt Warner first. Overall Than Warner who some some Moron will remain. Nameless took Took Wayne Quebec for the role. He still believes somehow. Nothing's ever wanted That'll happen. It happens you don't WanNa you don't WANNA lose that Guy. You gotTa keep that guy like locked in you. You don't WanNa lose him for anyway. Let's get to We'll get back to Wayne Quebec and the jets in the AFC MINUTE. I rooted the NFC win. Totals The Dallas cowboys. I up because you know they're America's team all these odds of course our friends at William Hill a podcast with Nick Bogdanovich a gesture of trading. We've held its feet as well. Over under RJ nine and a half wins for the Dallas Cowboys. The over minus one forty five the under plus one twenty five. Yeah I would lean to the over. I think they're going to get ten wins. But I'm GonNa stay away this bad. Because that uses at minus one forty-five it can be tough adjusting to a new coaching scheme. Particularly in this office or things are weirder than they usually are but the numbers show. They were really unlucky to only have eight wins. The had eight wins there. Pythagorean winslow which is computer based on points scored against was ten point nine. They played more like an eleven win. Team so you'd expect them to beat that eight eight number this year and so you don't have that much leeway if you're if you try to take the under think they're going to be nine exactly so if the Jews were even stronger play for me but I just can't pay the minus one forty five here. I'm GonNa stay away but if I had to pick one side. I'm leaning to the over her. I think there are ten team. I I agree. I agree with you completely. I think this is an important part of the discussion about Windows Right. So like you can think the cowboys are ten when team and I do think that they're going to be a good football team and they win twelve games but you also realize that if you're paying minus one forty one hundred forty dollars to win one hundred on the nine and a half that there's a margin for error here were you lose so if it's if it was over nine minus one forty like. I'd be I'd be down for that because you're gonNA put you know you. GotTa Push Window there. If they are nine seven or if it was like you say even money at nine and a half. Maybe you're down for that. They do open they open at the rams and crowd shouldn't be a factor there whether the fans in there are not a shell. Mcveigh's been excellent plus sixty point differential in three years three zero against spread up in week. One Games for McVeigh. The they have the Falcons at home in week. Two at the seahawks in week three like if for some reason they don't adjust might McCarthy's complex scheme in an off season. That is going to be different than usual. And they stumble out of the gates and they go one or two or three which is not unreasonable. They have tough games after the by the by the and we to have their at the Ravens at the Vikings they the eagles one more time. The forty niners more time to me. There's just not enough room for error to to have the over dropped into a best best bucket here. Yeah a lot of travel early on and those teams you mentioned. They all have stability in the coaching. Ranks Ford a falcons bringing back win and then we know. Rams seahawks haven't done anything with the top of their thing so those teams are should be coming in. They don't have their have veteran quarterback so they don't have to deal with too much uncertainty. Dallas you know dealing with DAG will sign long-term will not who knows if he's even still holding out we we just don't know what's going to happen there And then you have to adjust. Mccarthy is just a weird offseason so you could definitely see him starting slow but the team is just talented enough that I would lean to the over if we were getting better. Better juice there but minus one forty five. I'm not paying. Yeah and the cowboys the favourite to maybe the play. Well we can get this minute but maybe the play of the cowboys is the Plus One ten to win the division. I I like that that much I I. I don't think I think the cowboys are they got CD. Liam digs the draft. They did a really good job in the draft. I think they've had a great off-season made smart moves. Andy Dalton has a huge insurance backup plan. If for some reason something goes wrong. I just don't think I think that there because of their the Dallas cowboys. I don't know twelve to one to win the super bowl or six to one to win the NFC and basically even money to win the division. I'm sure there's a ton of value. The play is if you think McCarthy is good coach it's an improvement and they actually have a title. You know ceiling title team ceiling. You Talk to ten and then you take the over there. See figure ten and six right Bush. You push attendance six but you think you can go eleven twelve wins and you're getting plus one. Oh Five or plus one hundred or whatever skip all lay in the minus one forty five so if you can find tens out there at Plus Money. I would go play that because they seem to me like a team that you're they're going to get a team with a very high ceiling or they're just another train wreck. That isn't living up to expectations again. Imagine if the cowboys are a train wreck this year Jerry. Jones could get a little angry. I don't know if it's going to happen in that division but Jerry's by the way our Ip to the Great Jerry Stiller passed on on Monday Sun Pincer obviously announce credible actor and seventeen so just little non sequitur average so there was a free combat. Us loved him The Philadelphia Eagles over under nine and a half wins as well the over minus one of five under minus one fifteen. So you can see there. That's sort of like. That's the eagles are plus one thirty five to win the division. You see the that's baked in. Dallas is a favourite based on the juice. Your thoughts on the Philly Philly Eagles. Lean to the under her even though this is the one team in the Division with coaching stability. It's GonNa take time for the new receivers to get up to speed schedule looks particularly brutal even though it ranks in the middle of the pack especially after week nine by Nineteen easiest is for Warren Sharp when he He calculates based on Vegas Wind Total. So that comes with five games against the giants Redskins and Cincinnati. You know and then you get to tough stretches mixed in there so that you can chalk up wins in those easy games and the rest of them might be kind of tough you know. They have a tough week week. Four to six run there at San Fran at Pittsburgh then against the Ravens and then after the violence like the most trouble five road games and seven weeks stretch started with at giants weekend which is a winnable game. But then you go at Cleveland versus Seattle on Monday night football. Who's going to be on a long break because they play Thursday night the week before? So that's not as big a deal for them. And then at Green Bay home against the saints at Arizona at Dallas as such a tough stretch so if they're going to stumble that's going to be where it is so you better hope they're banking wins early. Once they get to that stretch. It's going to be hard for them to get to the over. Yeah I tend to agree and remember like Doug Peterson. I think is free. I wrote this earlier I think. He's three no depot. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think he's maybe four two or three and one straight up week one. He's a good week one coach but they They came out last year and almost leading edge against the REDSKINS. They were down big against Washington and it took Carson wentz chunk in the ball to To Sean Jackson I think the thing is like you know I mean not to say that Carson Wentz can't play sixteen games obviously can but like you have to assume a little bit of risk there without the bailout option of Nick Foles. Jalen hurts those final four games saints at Cardinals at Cowboys. Redskins like you need nick. Foles there and you need to win two of those games. If you want to hit this over I would imagine yeah. I agree with that. It's you know. I don't know that they are their quarterback situation as any worse than it was last year you know after they got rid of Nicole so I'll dare you. So maybe that's factor but yeah. I think it just comes down to. I wanted to like them as the over I think of leading to their over just because because of the stability as opposed to the rest of the teams in the division. Then you look at the schedule and all these tough games and it just became hard to see then getting ten wins Especially if we're not paying too much of a tax to go with the under Doug Peterson by the way. Because I'd like to. That was diva didn't immediately provide me information that demanded four no in week. One Games to those against Washington for whatever that's worth a obviously differ coach except from Washington He I I could just like. It's not hard to see the eagles at four and four at best heading into the weeknight. By then that would be the concern I think is like then all of a sudden you have to find six wins on you. Know a stretch of What basic math is such a six in sixty eight games yeah leaving? Let's say let's say they have six wins going into that stretch with you. Get their Washington at the back. End that seven but then act act. Cleveland versus Seattle Monday night at Green Bay versus New Orleans at Arizona at Dallas prosciutto thrillers. It's just it's it's so many road game so many tough teams. You know. They could do it because I think they're going to be a good team but I don't think you can just pencil them in to say. Oh yeah they'll beat. Most of those teams are the leaving. Go if you know. Five hundred that stretch Any thought to eight one. Nfc winner or seventeen to one super bowl winner. One thirty five division winter. I think the thing gives me the he'd be GBS there. Yeah I kinda don't mind if I'm going to bet on a futures that's probably the tea mama take as the eagles just in case they reach that potential and when stays healthy Going a flyer on them on seventeen to one seems like okay valued since they have that coaching stability. So if you believe that unique oxy's is gonNA cause issues with some teams of new coaches navy. They emerged from the division over Dallas with a strong enough record to be well positioned to make a playoff run over some of these other teams. Yeah I agree with that as well. okay the New York football giants surprise surprise. No stability there for them. Joe Judge in his first season is certainly impress. Somebody by name is judge. arrested development washing development in quarantine about you guys but the The giants they headed the season with a winter of six and a half so spiked up from last year but the under juiced minus one twenty. The over is plus one hundred or even money. They're the giants are thirty. Two one to win the NFC sixty to one to win the Super Bowl and seven and a half to one to win the NFC east giants over or under RJ. I'M GONNA go under here. I wanted to buy into them as a sleeper team. I think the talent on the roster sneakily solid especially on the offensive side and they made some solid defensive positions. I don't know that they can conquer the second hardest schedule in the League if two versus Washington and they're at cincy and their next easiest games quote unquote easiest are at home against the cardinals and browns teams. We think you'RE GONNA improve from oster and then at Chicago at Rams. Which which aren't you know? Easy places to go into and win so I might have him one in three when those four matchups and so where are she getting your wins if that's the case So getting the third place team in the NFC. South isn't even that big of a deal With one of their unique NFC GINS TAMPA Bay. So they rated a big deal. You're not getting that's how you get this schedule. Even though the giants were bad last year to be the second hardest schedule in the league with with those teams. I mentioned the only other you know. Arizona's projected under eight wins along with Washington Cincinnati. Everyone else's predicted above eight wins based on the Vegas Wind. Tunnels over under one and a half wins. Going into their week eleven bye. Let's see probably take the over by default but she's Louise steelers at bears. Forty niners at rams at cowboys Redskins at Eagles buccaneers at Redskins Eagles. That is frigging hard yellow. The at least well I mean I think we can probably get to two and you know there but you take the under a two and a half. The weird things can happen but I probably would. I'd have to dig into each one of these specific match these teams but this this might be a best pet. Yes second hardest schedule they really factors in. And I don't want to be too strong because I do like the talent I think. They've made some strides so if the coaching is going to be positive. And this could be a sneaky good team. It's just how you going to beat this brutal schedule. How do you get the seven and ten or eight with this schedule? I mean again like even during the bye all right we got we got the three and seven and you gotta at Bengals. That's which is not the like. It's not going to at Ravens at saint but I mean it's not easy to actually have to go to at Ravens late. So very tough schedule for the giants. I assume you don't like any value in their futures there. No I kind of want like because I did like the town on the roster I kinda WanNa take a flyer on division since it's such a long shot but then I looked at the schedule now like I'm good. I'M GONNA pass eight to one like I mean it's not like it's not. It's not that great to one value. I don't think right. You're not getting think lions I got last year that I liked their value was twelve to one eleven to one. But if you can get the giants are on that level then. I don't mind taking a flyer. Ten to one of the giants I don't think is insane to take redskins over under five and a half wins the Washington over plus one at five the Washington under a minus one twenty five. I think I explained this but like have you. The juice is if it's as one twenty five you have to lay to put deposit one hundred twenty five dollars new risk one hundred twenty five to win one hundred and if it the under there which means that Vegas. The people saying the lines in this case William Hill believe that the under a slightly more likely to happen what What do you think about the Redskins you right? They're projecting the redskins or more like a five point four or five point three win team as opposed to five point five so slightly into the under on me. I actually do think six wins as a table attainable with their schedule. The two versus the giants obviously Those probably be Tossup Games on each side than their home against Cincy Home Against Carolina at Detroit They could win a lot of those games if they're good if they come together. You know when those beat rams on across country ship at home or steal one somewhere else getting that over. Promise the roster challenges just as negative particularly on offense if Terry McLaren and I don't know who else Arben a thank you to Golden Jeremy Sprinkle like just you name name. The players that are going to score touchdown for watch the fun facts about Jeremy Sprinkle right. What's that he was. He was caught shoplifting from a bulk. A belks department store while at the Belka Bowl Arkansas years ago I remember that and he's already received a gift card as part of his part of this package which is just a gift cards uncle as long as they used to. Jerry sprinkled needs a bunch of Khakis. He needs duck head pants. And what are we doing here? Shop for Dell wouldn't be like a crock pot somewhere else. You don't shoplift anywhere. But you know shoplift somewhere else Stash Wilkinson. A poll quotes. Take away from this. One is a pretty tough schedule for the Washington. Aside from those easy ups I said does going six and ten in Rivera's first year in two thousand eleven affect your decision making it all here absolutely. Not but the fact. That is new coach. I think they can be good on defense. They have some talent especially in front seven but they might be switching the base defense and it's a new scheme and that usually takes time to get a little bit adjusted to so With the weird offseason. We don't know how that's GonNa Work. And so they better pack. These wins on early. Start on Thanksgiving. They play three straight on the road. Four straight against teams with predicted with at least wins at Dallas at Pittsburgh at San Fran than home against Seattle so that stretch before that is yet giants at home at Detroit since at home so if they go if we play well on that stretch show like other teams really starting to come together. You know beware that. Don't start playing them in embedding them. Because they are the toughest Schedule coming up after that. I do think there are if you look at so I think this is were. The scheduled guests decided 'cause I think that they can. I don't think it's crazy to say that they could beat the giants Bengals and panthers at home after the bye. So that's three wins. You know maybe maybe you pick up a baby at Lions I. I don't know you get four Max. I think on the back of that schedule I think they they almost have to win one of at cardinals or at browns and even then I just not even sure where that six the win is coming from. You know what I mean. That's they're going to have to steal one or two on the road here probably got to sweep the giants so if one of these teams can sweep the other between the giants and Redskins. Maybe they hit their. That's how you get your over. That's right yeah so your bank. I mean again like new coaches Ron Rivera. We sort of know what he's GonNa do. But it's like I don't know that this redskins roster is the has various coaching style. I don't know that it's going to lend itself to this redskins roster winning a bunch of like close games. You mean like like the panthers when they had camp at least. I come back and do some crazy stuff with cam and all that I just don't I don't know that it happens with this team. Who on the offense is doing that for you? Gary guys terrorists Harry maclaurin Kachin Two touchdowns a game when you can double cover him and not worry about the rest of the team. So I don't know how how and then you then you go to the offensive line. You know they didn't have Trent Williams last year. They're there now. They have to replace them long term. They really didn't do that. Sure back for the one year. But it's not it's not a plus offensive. Line quarterback is mystery going into his second year. And there's the duty call Allen for ten games that would not be shocking at all. Yeah so this offense could be the worst in the League of the bottom two or three and it's not going to surprise many people the think about this team and now you overcome a little bit of this in terms of Being able to cover up for secondary with your front seven and they have chase young they have Ryan Kerrigan onto sweat have jumped in Allen met. I just They have a bunch of bunch of talented guys up front but man. I mean like you could. You could pretty easily see that back in exposing in that. That can happen fairly quickly. Okay let's Bob before we move on to a break do you any any any futures that you would splash down on the NFC's whether it's division super bowl super bowl winner MVP rookie or whatever. It is yeah. I agree with the cowboys being favourite for the division plus one ten if I had to take someone who probably go with them at those plus is I think their schedules much easier to handle the data. The Eagle so if McCarthy is a net negative if the weird offseason isn't a net negative Seem could be really good. You know it'll be all be on them getting on the same page with the new staff in a hurry if the giant schedule in so tough. I'd say they're worth of fire but I'm not even mess. Oh anthem at where they are and then features like I said if you want if the Super Bowl. Nfc IF YOU WANNA go. Eagles I'm okay with that but you know seventeen to one. Seems like about where it should be. I'd kind of like the cowboys. Plus twelve plus twelve hundred. Rather look at some other teams there. It's just neither one is particularly great value. I if you if you think Carson Wentz is GonNa Play Sixteen Games than I. Don't mind the eagles plus one thirty five to win the division or on the INNOC- Super Bowl numbers for the eagles. Like I think either one of those is fine. I was just rather play the NFC though because I think what's what are we say the NFC is. I'd play the superbowl. I guess. Seventeen to one. They'RE GONNA be. I mean probably dogs whoever they play the Superbowl Estate. Hypothetically get there. Yeah I think theoretically the eagles have a better seed if their division Hispanic Division. The situation that division is bad is is the coaching staff. This isn't the time to get on the same page with players. Three new coaches exactly the situations where the eagles are going to be a high seed looking to make a run in the playoffs. are the situations where the Kobe nineteen pandemic is screwing with our offseason and team? Just can't get on the same page so I'd rather just go for the high you know thing there and go for the super bowl the NFC plamondon vision or their win total. Let's call it the run a pandemic like the scientific name please just kick curve in. Nineteen is the name. Let's take a break when we come back what the Patriots the Best Bet to win the AFC east or is there a new contender lurking? We'll tell you after the break stamped from fantasy baseball today. Don't worry at amazing isn't going anywhere and neither EPI. The emily season is delayed. But that just gives us more time to deep dive players argue about rankings and find this year's Patel Martavis regardless of what format you plan groto points keeper Auction Dynasty. We've got you covered. We're here for you five days a week so make sure to download and subscribe to Fantasy Baseball. Today on Apple podcasts. Spotify and Stitch College basketball season ended early. It remains unclear. Exactly when the next one will start. And who knows what that's GONNA look like regardless still here without interrupting this is Gary Parrish reminded you the island college basketball. Podcast continued to run Straw. Matt norlander. Not We're still record at least once a week discussing transferred early into the NBA draft. The decisions that will impact next college basketball season. What school should be great? What programs might drop off. We have the answers. I promise you know college basketball. Podcast GONNA keep you updated better than the eye on college basketball podcast. Please join us for each episode of the eye on college basketball. Podcast Zenia sports podcast network download and subscribe on Apple. Podcasts spotify Stitcher. And wherever else podcasts are found to we start with the Patriots because that's where it starts with the AFC east. They're over under nine. Wins the lowest over under? We're in the last time. Maybe the Patriots were down to nine. I don't know what it would have been but the overs might as one of five. The Jews have more heavily minus one fifteen. What are your thoughts on the Patriots and does it just all revolve around Europe Sydell? Yeah I'm going with the over here. I'd say they have a better shot at finishing with ten wins than eight. I know yeah. They lost Tom Brady but he didn't look like he was starting to slip last year. Anyway he didn't look like the same Tom Brady. I think we can trust bill. Belichick master plan here. I'M NOT GONNA go all in on Jerry did him. But if spellcheck thinks that he's you know he can win games with him. Then who are we to Dow ballot check at this point so they have a pretty tough schedule tougher schedule than they usually have a lot of. That's tied into three brutal match ups at Kansas City versus San Francisco Versus Baltimore. They also have to go at Seattle Rams but if they dominate the division again. And you know I'll believe it when I see that they're gonNA fall off in the. Afc East they have a lot of winnable games noted Bill Buffalo Bills Fan RJ white. By the way I am definitely not counting my chickens before they're hatched when it comes to the Patriots being bad so tough tough coming out of the weeks expire. They have I San Francisco APPA flow at jets versus Baltimore at Houston so if the bills are GonNa take the division they gotTa Win. That game at home went when we deal with these tough opponents And if New England dozen stumble there and they beat though they win those two games I think going Pennsylvania the division at that point yet. That's a tough stretch man. I mean I think this is why people are down right so in the before the by the week six by that's at Kansas City way at Seattle and we we did the podcast talking about the Patriots last week or just sort of debating. You're talking about the schedule. Opening and Sean breach in Ryan. We're all pretty adamant that. Three and two is the best case scenario for the Patriots going into week six. I firmly disagree. I think four and one is absolutely on the table and I think it's a I don't I wouldn't be I wouldn't that's done. They went five. No I know they're just can't beat the chiefs in Kansas City. Well yeah they can they. I know they don't have Tom Brady that they can do it. It can happen who. We don't know what the team will look like. Best case scenario for Patriots always undefeated. They can't win all their games right and I understand that you look at this offense and you think well what what are they. What are they have? Well you know two thousand ten invested a second fourth in two tight ends and they they went for two tight ends with a third and a third this year that took ICICI CIC boom and pretty like better done keener Devon Osceola C. C. I think is a little more complete. I think keene it wouldn't surprise me if they kind of transition to h he's not as good a blocker you know as Dublin now. The Devlin retired but I think ICICI's more the guy that you want out there. You know as your your title one. I Dynasty Times Ozzie. Ozzie I took Dalton Keanu. I don't care I just think like all I'm saying. Is that multiple times over the course of Bill Belichick's career. He has aggressively. Reinvented the New England Patriots Roster and I think he I mean I don't think he aggressively. Reinvented this year. But like he invested a bunch of early picks on the defensive side of the ball. Kyle Duggar Joshu Shea Anthony Jennings and he has a defense. In my opinion. They're still going to be a top ten cotton defense. Worst worst-case right. I mean why can't best defensive football again doesn't it seem to you. They're really going with this. Run heavy approach though scoring because they stay tag tune. That was a surprise. Nobody thought they would do that. 'cause wagon guard that much. Will you want to pay that much? When you'RE GONNA run the ball you need good blocking upfront. Because you're worried about your your young quarterback you WANNA protect them. Why draft you tight ends? Well maybe you WANNA do multiple tight. End Sets a lot more than usually do and it's important to have guys that can catch the ball you know in short routes but also blocked so. That's why you do that. I think both those guys when they drafted him we consider them kind of a stretch so we thought they were better players out there but maybe not in the sense that better players you WanNa have Blocking and receiving maybe they wanted these more well rounded guys so that that kind of tipped you off to their offense. Maybe there's GonNa go these lowest scoring wins and if that's Pella checks plan I'm not gonna out him you know. He's reinvented himself. Plenty of times. There's a reason he's going to go into the hall of fame. Greatest coach to ever play this game. So yeah I mean look. You're I think that everybody's making a magical shift to running the ball more the tyrod. Matthew tweeted about during the during the drafting but maybe bill. Okay look I'm losing Tom Brady. I don't know what I haven't jeered system but like let's do what we did in two thousand one but see stem can be baby. Brady. It'd be a game manager who who is clutch. Leighton Games can make all the throws as necessary. It's not like he's going to open up. Some high octane was still just be bombed all over the place but you can run plenty of play action. You can aggressively operate the run game. I think I would be buying low. On Damian Harris Dynasty Leagues a fantasy leagues Sunni. Michelle is still there. Have REX burkhead. James White like you can do a lot of things. This run game without without the loss of Tom. Brady isn't ideal. But you can mitigate if is halfway decent in kill Harry's earners belt Mohammed Sue came over midseason and it looks like a bust relative to that pick but you know they have a really good offensive. Line you can just see pat. The ten wins here pretty easily even if the schedules kind of. I'd just stunned that. People think the Patriots you tank. Yeah not only nine when you said how how how that. What was the last time they were that low at nine but the juices of the under you can get the over minus one. Oh five when could you ever said about patriots? Now there's also an easy situation where the Patriots are just bat instead of and and that schedules are so talk that they go six and ten seventy nine maybe even worse. Start talking about taking forever kind of thing but you know. I'll believe it when I see with this coach and I don't think that he's going to deliberately lose any games and they could easily be competitive and win this division again. I I was listening. I had a lot to see in-laws legal social distancing story and I her listen to Mike Reese of ESPN on Mika's Daily podcast and bikes cover the Patriots for years and years and years. I just thought he had like it's like look. The they think the jared stood on gives them the upside of winning ten games and being competitive for a championship. While you know like worst case scenario gives you the downside of winning three games and you can people the number one pick so. They don't know even the people who know the Patriots. I don't think Bill Belichick News. I just don't know no. Tom Brady started drew. Bledsoe you know. Like he didn't know right. He's GONNA quarterback I. I think it's insane. It would just assuming he's quitting the Buffalo Bills. Your buffalo bills also over under nine wins the over minus one ten. The undermine is one ten even money. The bills were one of the most popular overs. Last year they went like six of the seven and a half and they still crushed it. what do you think about the bills? Technically being there. I say the favorite to win the isn't it crazy. They're both at nine but the bills are the the slightly juice better over. Even though division odds Patriots have a much better division should ask for the Patriots the Patriots to win the division. I think I can't take amid even is I'm not sure I love the value on buffalo either So we'll talk about the the t the teams later. You know I kind of might go with our course here who right right. Well that's up. We'll tell okay. Well what about what you think about the bills? The bills I'm leaning to the under. I WANNA be optimistic being a bills fan they of too tough four-game stretches that's GonNa be at versus Kansas City in week six and then add jets versus New England vs Seattle Three Home Games against good teams before the by. That's five game stretch and then down. The threats made with a division on the line they start playing a week. Thirteen with at San Francisco versus Pittsburgh at Denver at New England close versus Miami may be facing to maybe. Miami is a little little better at the agencies and then there at the beginning so it's just a tough games. I mean there. Middle of the pack and Difficulty as scheduled. But that's just those two four-game stretches are tough for me. So maybe Josh Allen takes an step maybe the Patriots finally stumble but I think this numbers kind of expecting. Both those things happened already. If you're going to bet the over to get the ten wins and eight or nine seems more likely to means and so eight more likely than ten. I lean to the under here. I think the bills have one of the best rousers football and one of the best coaches football. I definitely agree with the ladder. I'm a little more hesitant on the former solid top to bottom. I don't know they have a lot of I. Guess say best rousers I mean I should say. The best is a bad word for most complete roster. Yeah they're pretty deep Question is quarterback though. We just don't know. He took a stuff josh onto step four last year. He wasn't as bad as he was as a rookie. He wasn't great though he was good enough to get them to ten. Wins against a pretty easy schedule. but I don't know I don't know that he's a he's he's GonNa take a pretty big step to get them to super bowl contender and if you think they can win the division than you probably think that they could make a little noise in the playoffs. It's not like this is an atrocious division. It's not it's not the AFC south most years. You know this is a team with division with a couple teams getting better and then bill ballot check in it as the the presumptive favorite if that is inherently what. The BET is on will Josh Allen. Take a huge leap forward in his development as a professional quarterback. If yes then you should take this over. If you're not sure don't take the over on the bills. There's other stuff you can do to sort of. Even I think I'd take him plus when forty unless I was confident like I. I'M NOT GONNA pick the bill. The bill is like there. Is your chance to bills in the two thousand nine hundred two thousand twenty version of the browns. I don't think that they have as much. I don't think that there's as much backing Josh Allen. There was for Baker Mayfield. But I think it's much higher floor to yeah. I think that roster as the bills roster is more deep and it's more complete like you said I think the browns roster had better stars on it. I think when you Kinda line guys up the the one to five range of the roster's probably better the Cleveland side and in six to fifty three is probably better this year's bills that another that it's that comparable so I don't think there could be at a huge dropoff with the bills. This isn't going to be a five or six when team with with this coach in house all at this roster is but it's GonNa take out and taking that step forward to get him to be a double digit. You know win team or better or competing for a super bowl With the schedule being a little bit tougher this year than last year. The one of the things to like. We'll talk about these two teams the second like the jets better. The dolphins are better and you play those teams the first two weeks of the season and SORTA be to win both games. That seem fair to get to ten. Yes or you need to really come together. An upset a few of these teams ripoff or rip off like I just one and one and then you know win at Tennessee or one in one or two and against New England home. I mean there are solid teams. So I'm not going to write them off in any of these games. It's just a lot of pretty good opponents on schedule again like the Patriots and what they're offensive game plan might be A. Are The buffalo bills going to be able to play a team like the chiefs and score a bunch of points like okay like? Did they do enough? And we'll take a big enough lead that they can hang with those teams or is this a situation where they're just going to try to be great on defense and beach at twenty one to eighteen. Because that's a big difference. Yeah I think in those games. You're going to have to hope that the defense comes together and they're holding MOMS to twenty one to twenty four points and then they could sneak out a win. I don't think they're gonNA win shootouts. This team built to beach a forty two thirty seven or anything like that. I mean I think this could be five to cancer hosting Kansas City on a Thursday night. That's I don't think that's a crazy thing. Yes possible if the jets jets Miami a little little time developing in their home against the rams. That's a winnable game cross country for the rams at the raiders. It's Buffalo. That's a tough road trip for Buffalo. But who knows? The raiders are going to be. Who knows what they're doing quarterback by that point and then at Tennessee's atop when we saw Tennessee was last year but though she whose need every kind of not going to happen in Tennessee of Buffalo Game. Either one of those teams that win by thirty. It feels like every time they meet. Yeah I didn't take the under but I would be a little nervous. That the overs is too expensive The jets over under six and a half wins the over minus one twenty-five the under is minus one zero five seven to one to win the division and fifty to one to win the super bowl with the excuse me the bills tend to one in the AFC aches and the jets are also I think a hundred to one to win the Super Bowl and they'll just inflated inflated on these future you can't really play the hype is already kind of out of control that they're not good value even if. I think they're even if I do think they're going to be good. I just don't think there's value there for the jets. I'd slightly into the over even at minus one. Twenty five and six and a half. I'm staying away. Though you the schedule. Difficulty even with them upgrading. The line of the third toughest schedule in the League for those those sharp you know wind tunnel numbers not many easy match ups their week. Four to six they get home against Denver in Arizona the NAT at charters and weeks tend to thirteen. They play Miami twice by then versus raters. They gotta go five in one of those match ups if they're gonNA hit the over a lot of tough games decides that so this. This is a brutal opener for the jets at bills. Forty niners at home at Colt Broncos at home cardinals at home at chargers bills at home at chiefs patriots. Like you got I mean. I know that the the forty niners will come a long way. Broncos come a long way the cardinals come a long way. They're all one o'clock while the Broncos a was it a NFL network only gained. What does that Thursday the hell gate or they're not? It's Thursday. Why isn't on Fox where they didn't want it don't want that anyway? Like one o'clock games mixed in there but like I mean you got to hold serve at home or steal something on the road because otherwise it could you know. We saw it last year. I think seems to take a leap but man that is a that is a tough opening. Nine Games. Yes we're they're scheduled. Kind of alternates between toughen. Easy stretches because you get that week one two three that you mentioned how buffalo versus San Fran added Indie then if Denver in Arizona. Don't take a huge step for you. At least get both games at home. They are at the chargers. As a decently relatively easy through week stretch then you go versus buffalo at Kansas City versus me one tough stretch stretch at Miami home against Miami versus Las Vegas back to its up stretch at Seattle at rams versus Cleveland at New England. So we're just GONNA be a weird up and down kind of thing where it doesn't really seem like they're gonNA ever be able to build momentum that much okay. I guess we know who your Darkhorse team is then to To win the division. Could it be the Miami Dolphins over under six wins over my one? Twenty the under plus one hundred. The Dolphins are seven to one along the jets to in the AFC has dropped precipitously since the draft. They had a great draft. They are fifty to one win the AFC and one hundred to one to win the Super Bowl. You thinking them Dr Correspond. We'll we'll talk about that when it comes to it. I'M GONNA go the over here on the dolphins. I think the schedule sets up. Well for sitting over the first six weeks at New England vs Buffalo at Jacksonville versus Seattle at San Fran at Denver Jacksonville to be fine but the rest of those. I don't know if you WANNA throw him into the mix there if he's not like you know ready to go right away but they should get one. Maybe two wins there then. There's not really a tough opponent till weeks. Fourteen and fifteen when they get Kansas City New England at home so they made a lot of good editions during the offseason. So starting this week six or seven I think you put two in there and they start turning the corner. schedule's pretty easy. Twelve easiest per per the win totals That weeks third sixth thirteenth stretch. I mentioned yet. Add Denver home against charges in rams peanut both having to travel at Arizona home against jets by at jets home against Cincinnati. I mean I could see five and to run their than you gotta do is get one or two other ones. Hit this over Yeah I mean I just think so. Much of it comes down to. What is their plan at quarterback and like I mean do you almost rather than have Ryan Fitzpatrick out there from this games. Definitely for the start of the season. I don't want to rush. Go out there and I don't think you have to Fitzpatrick. Had A rough start to the year last year but it was just. That whole team was new coaching staff. No nothing was working for that team. Once put him back in there they played really pretty well but the second half of the season. I'm not going to say. They were playoff-caliber team. But they upset the Patriots at the end of the year And again the Patriots needed a win and they actually played some pretty soft football out of those weeks So I think he can come in. He can get you some bad losses but he can also get some steals wins if he needs to and then That week six to thirteen stretches when you really start hitting your stride might get that over cash. By the time he gets at the end of the year stretch. When you get home against the chiefs home against mainland. Add Vegas at Buffalo. You might even get a winner maybe to there to all right I could. Yeah I mean I I think one problem with the dolphins is like at at six wins. Even it's sort of built in this expected growth from last year. And like we just don't know. I don't know there's just a whole lot of unknowns with this team include particularly at the quarterback position but they got better on defense obviously and maybe they go out there and run the ball saw him and I generate any kind of offense. Get to out there and get some momentum going middle the season yeah this team could Woodson Games. But I I guess I would lean over here as well but it's schedule is AC schedule tough this year. Yeah you gotTa play that. Afc WEST NFC west. I mean that's that's betty south that you're going to get that's why you get teams like New England having a super tough schedule because of that. Uh that split in the first place game so then you also throw him ravens. And that's not. That's not gonNA be needed. That is a tough schedule all right so AFC east division odds Pats bills plus when forty jet seven to one dolphins seven to one and then we have super bowl Fc winners ten to one for the bills. And pats fifty to one for jets and Dolphins and Super Bowl twenty two one for the PATS and bills. Sheesh and one hundred one for the jets and dolphins any thoughts on those yes so for the division. I can't team that you're GONNA take there's A. There's a bet that it's not quite just putting your mark one team. I can't take New England and even odds. I don't know the value in buffalo either. I like splitting a bet on the jets Miami. At at plus one hundred each it covers your stood him as bad scenario. So if you don't believe him did you don't have to go all in with Josh Allen either so if you only want one I think I leaned to the dolphins based on what I was saying their schedule and all the talent they added but split the bet there you get plus three and a half so to each of them. Essentially because you're you're you're better equal amounts of both and I think you're covering the situations that everybody kind of expects to England to take a step back and you don't have to take the bills and play on that bill type. I like that I like the jets at seven to one. I think the judge should be closer to three and a half or four to one. They are seven to one like or maybe the dolphins to be tend to one I. I don't I think the one thing that people are sort of overlooking in talking about this division. Is that what Donald takes? A big leap forward said it was like the best prospect In that draft class coming out for a lot of people and the ad bottom all last year was derails the entire two thousand nine hundred season. Yeah I know that. He's got Adam freaking gays. They're lose Robbie Anderson but you add Denzel. Men's lady on bell was effective last year. Even if he wasn't spectacular Franken wars. I guess I worry a little bit about the offense and and what it might actually look like but they approved the offensive line with some blue collar editions. Almost like buffalo did two years ago I think seven to one in a in a world of unknowns with some stability at the coach and quarterback position tends to give you a little bit of value with the jets. It's possible I don't love the jets too much because I just don't like town on that roster I think I was saying I would like the giants Because I like the sneakily an underrated team but that's scheduled to top. The judge kind of the opposite. Darnell can take out for it. I just don't love the rest of their roster. I do like that. They did make some offensive line editions as that they're they're gonNA come in and dominate right away There it's not like they went out and got the best center in the League or top two or three center like the bills did Draft you know. They drafted MCI Becton. The the MEME switching out men's Ray Anderson at saint not like their weapons were good aside from from Anderson. And you make that switch out. I mean most people passed on. He was the top receiver that kind of fell further than a lot of people thought. So what if? There's a reason that nobody really wanted him You know they went further options at him. And then the defensive side. I'm not sure I love many of their defensive guys. Either of talent at linebacker still got Jamal Adams. Maybe you know if he doesn't get traded seems like speculation as you can be traded when Williams probably gets a little better in the second year but it just doesn't seem like a very deep defense. It doesn't seem like a very deep offense so it's really going to be on Donald. Take a huge step forward and carry the teams kind of the opposite of the bills as well build. I worry about whether their quarterback going to hold them back jets. It feels like their quarterback really has to take an MVP type of step forward for them to be fifteen. Well you did say on this podcast that you like Sam Darnold is an MVP and like the value and if if he if they do win the division he's going to have earned that MVP because just those guys around I might. I just don't love the team around. If you win. The division of Egypt probably win nine or ten games mental right. I mean right. And that means that you've let me just played well and navigated a really difficult schedule with minimal talent around you and some questions on defense so yeah. I mean I think that might be the play rather stick Donald for MVP just media and then my my other features with is if we talked about the division splitting the Miami jets. Now if you want to take the stem as good angle or ballot check and win with them take the Patriots at Plus Twenty to win win the Super Bowl. I like getting them at same value as Buffalo Because if that eventuality comes to pass you have to love. His team's chances of competing in January. More than you do the bills. Or you know any other team. 'cause spell checks at the helm he has that experience so. I don't give the bills a great chance of Battling Casey in Baltimore in the AFC playoffs but if New England isn't held back by their quarterback ballot check and certainly those teams as even with Lamar Jackson. Patrick Mahomes as he's bill belichick and he's beaten at any and all comers. He made a mockery of Peyton. Manning the playoffs year after year. So he could do it with Patrick. Mahomes. I'm sure I mean he'd be rich. Scannon and Jon Gruden and then beat Kurt Warner and and the greatest show on earth and granted you know one of those guys beat the steelers two in that stretch of the game or whatever but like He. I mean he did that in two thousand one with a great defense a run game and a young quarterback who was a gay manager or some clutch jeans tube. So why can't he do it again? He's being all these teams for twenty years. He's beaten teams in the AFC. So if that's why there's value in the Patriots. I'm sorry yes rather than going with the over there where you're not going to get that much of a payout. If you WANNA play that cinemas good Anglo Celtic doing English. Just take him to win the Super Bowl because if he gets January and there are twelve and fourteen or thirteen and three. And you're holding a twenty two one ticket. You're gonNA feel amazing about that. Seem sure well and it wouldn't and we're be. Well what are we? Why don't we doubt? Bill check everything we do every year all right. Rj White Could Talk to you buddy. Great breakdown as always there. When does the gambling angles better than RJ? You can follow him on twitter at RJ. One you can read him on. Sportsline dot com joined in us. Firmer quite get your first month for a buck talked to you. Hey y'all patterson here from Macarthur Three podcasts. On CBS sports wellspring practice might be off Barton. Simmons Tump Ronel are full. Go with springtime team previews on the cover three podcasts. We're talking depth charts position baths in the story lines. That will become key talking points when the season finally does arrive. Break down each and every power. Five conference by the vision was the group of five schools that hope to crash the playoff picture in two thousand twenty. 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2020 Dad-a-Palooza: FATHERS DAY SPECIAL

Bad To The Dad

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2020 Dad-a-Palooza: FATHERS DAY SPECIAL

"If. You're the kind of Dad who's piano, Matt and wants to rock and roll all night and party every day, but your kids think you're living on a prayer then. This is the podcast for you. We are bad to the DAD podcast celebrating suburban dad life right here on father's Day were doing it through music. This data, Palooza or musical celebration for DADS happy Father's Day to you, and for all of our listeners in France and we know you're out there because there's fourteen thousand of you at WHO's fit. The pair at WHO's at the pair. That's how you say it in French so bienvenue welcome to our French friends, I think we covered two of our major continents. Here wall of our listeners are my name is Adam. D I think if you're GONNA have a podcast and it's going to be about DAD's. You've got to have this guy coach. Randy but he's already taken, so get your own coach. Randy it's been a bit of an off season. A bit of a busy off season over thrilled to be back here doing our father's Day music celebration. How Ya doing I of D. It's always nice to be the you know that the we love Adam De. We Love Bad dad in. It's like being on a roller coaster. You know a everyone on kingdom before. Oh Yeah right there. I remember the anticipation of being on kingdom, Dukan watching people on it. Maybe get in. And at such back at legis throws you forward as fast as you can. Now if you're not careful like me I, close my eyes right and so it sounds like a quick ride. I opened my eyes when I thought was the right it was done. No, no, no, no, my friend, then. No, it was at the top. Watch it all coming back down, so I, like I've been on King Takover for like. About three months and I just opened my eyes like right after Mother's Day episode It's just been like all Health Brokos I. Think King Dakota for those of you who don't know. This is a roller coaster at great adventure in New Jersey Jackson. New Jersey for me the scariest part kingdom. Is Looking at the Guy Operating the ride. Just sort of you know kind of dealing with covert nineteen. I WanNa who's coming towards me. Are they wearing a mask? Look educated enough to be able to operate with some semblance. some social grace in this in this wacky time that we're living in. Yeah. I get it. I get the metaphor and I. Think you're. You're spot on my friend so happy Father's Day out of D. Happy Thought Assayed coach. Hopefully you've got some fun stuff plan. Other than listening to this wonderful celebration through music of Dad's father's Day's always one of my favorite days, especially that the first half hour where the gifts purchased at the school store. I'M GONNA. Get that this year collection I'm sure, but they don't. They didn't have the school store this year because we were all closed while there's this thing called Amazon, and yet it's enough and you know my expectations are are at this level and pretty high level of my Hebrew. It's above my actually it's I. It's I mean speaking of which I've noticed the growth. I. Think you're going back to you with those not quite as long as I. Remember seeing you in high school I. Think it's something to be proud of. You mean the super bad haircut yeah. Yes. My lovely wife Michelle God bless her she. was volunteered to come my hair because it was just. Too, crazy I figure. If I can tell her hair, she can cut mine, and it's only hair grows back in a heartbeat, so I thought she did a reasonably good job. That said I'm looking forward to June twenty second. When this on hair calorie opened up again because you know it's. Only symmetrical. kind of girl, but just the male version you know what I think is great with people cannot see is the talent that Michelle expressed demonstrates when she puts the a d. a. m. and a little space in. D- in the back of your head, so people know that you are then the Real Adam de. Yes, I just told her. Please draw the line at Mike Gang Colors Don't carbon. My gang colors the back of the neck. Yes, he's are very heavy and wild times coach remember the last time we left off. You said you were seeing some movies. Hope Elliot's. Yes we We just finished watching A. Guardians of the galaxy to. The second one, okay, so we are We have been movies left the next movie. Is Altron at the age. Yes age of Altron and then it's a captain America. Spider Man so we're we're moving along. It's It's fun. I gotTa Tell You love it. I I going back. These really are sensational movies. It's what's not to love I mean Marvel's printing money. They know how to do it. They know how to suck in and you know what the best part is. Eleven movies you got two and a half months I. Before what we think might be we'll. Be School. You know what I love is how they have these little. You know. Stanley has these little sporadic cameos and all these different movies. It's A. Sad now, of course, knowing that he passed, but the he just comes into these moments that it's just just genius the jeans and I love about Marvel, and of course. I, WANNA. Give a shout to my friend and our course bad the dead commentator in a big fan of ours A. Christie as He he you know He. He posted on his facebook. About what more movies are really about? You know it's it's about what we're talking about. Is this society in terms of immigration in terms of differences in terms of race in terms of whatever you're talking about power overpower. A everything that we are experiencing related directly to. a marvel movie, and if you don't get marvel movies, and what they're all about, don't get what's going on in this country now. That was the Stanley Way. Every Superhero had to be flawed yeah. Right there were going through all the same nonsense that we were going through bullying. Relationship problems have. You know whatever was going on a socially in our times. That'd be race whether that be the economy whether that be aliens invading. From outer space. You know so, that's my and how about you I'm correct? You have been busy doing your own. You're I. Think you're not certified podcast now. Is that Zenit? Certify -able podcast is definitely definitely the case so with the social media was at the your. Flight. This yet. That nets. That's really fascinating because they're. Like a whole profession that twitter created around marketing and making money twitter, so I recommend. If you're all board, you're looking for a new skill and you're like social media do twitter flight school. It's as easy as twitter flight school dot Com. They're not sponsoring us. They haven't given me any money. Learning quite a bit odd did a comedy show for the World Central Age was raise money raised about twenty seven hundred bucks, so thank you all. If you're bad to the dad listener and you tuned in to that zoom, slash facebook live program. It was a lot of fun. We're thinking about maybe doing it again at the end of June, so please visit the Adam de Chandler facebook page as well as bad to the DAD, and you'll get some more information about some newsstand upsets with that group of very charitable comedians was really just a joy working with everybody. And then like you. Watching some movies Kinda going back into the archives educating my son Aden about those films from the eighties, so to in particular that we saw recently one was teen Wolf. The original with Michael J. Fox Michael, J. Fox you. You have to remember. This was nineteen five. This was the peak of Michael. J. Fox's career is still running hard with family ties as Alex Keaton. And, he had just. Off The wave back to the future the original future. Team. Which of course is about a teenager coming of age driving, it's based on a true story from not mistaken. Young, boy, who discovers that he is aware, will finish today family genes. So. We realized watching this. At least Michelle and I grew up in that era. How ridiculous film this was! But watching it with my son, he was more concerned about the basketball related discrepancies, then the concept of a teenage boy becoming a Wolfman even. Though, my son's like well. You know the the character. Scott Walks into that championship game. Late so the Games already started, he comes late. He says I'm not going to do this. Teen Wolf I'm going to do this. A Scott. The Games already started, but then the next scene, which is a montage of course. Starts with a jump ball is like well if they already started the game, why are they doing a jump ball? Just because he walked into the room, I had nothing I'm like you're absolutely right. Literally basketball fans did not do not write this night when he shoots. Those two free throws in the very last scene, and by the way, this is not a spoiler alert. The film's been out since nineteen eighty five, so if you haven't seen by now I'm sorry. I deserve to spoil absolutely. Why did they allow the bully from the other team to stand in the baseline underneath the WHO shouldn't that be a technical foul? Wow hitting. You're absolutely right. Isn't a things that. If we cared deeply enough, we'd write a letter. Yes, the other film we watch recently with short circuit you short circuit. Guide hive is alive. Was? The think the theme song theme song will like really big at the time. The theme I can't remember the the song that went but the theme song was like a huge hit. in the eighties. Yes I, don't I. Don't recall Fan, but I think you're right. I think you know that's that's how a lot of musicians make money. They make awful soundtracks I. Mean I always believed that if? If the wasn't rocky fills with survivor. BE A bad. Yes, yes, that kind of thing. Yes, the short circuit first of all you know I like Allie sheeting, but her acting was not top of the line. Not till not not until the breakfast club Breakfast Club, and had Steve Gutenberg. Who of course has not even the Police Academy films? I wanted more of him. Yes, you're is the. And it's almost laughable but sad. Because of what's going on in the world right now. You had fisher Stevens. Playing the Indian scientists and basically hoisting up every stereotype about Indian people. He ethics the accent he was. MISSA interpreting and miss saying American colloquialisms and he was going Nama stain I'm a stay the whole time, so if you wanted to have like a white stereotype of Indian people. You got it there in the Fisher Stevens character. Short, circuit so. We've come a long way. We actually have really good Indian actors now. Playing Indian roles yeah. Let's funny your as you talk about movies, we have also shown the girls some other older movies and we have found that we found to be interesting, engaging and funny. Our kids do not. They just don't yeah. What was funny. Then in what was considered that that was really good, I walked into the theater and I felt that just confused I I can't remember which movie it was. It was it was a movie. The jets and I've watched and at some point about a half hour and I think Michaela goes. A what point that's supposed to get funny dead. Ted's excellent adventure so whatever it was. Rains World I got the savings. What. I understand. At what point does get funny so It's funny, but it's quality movie night, family, movie night and We've been lucky with the cutter. Actually real with we saw we show the kids just mercy just because it was very timely. And the kids, but movie nights, and they spend a Lotta time on their laptops, but we're trying to get through as best as we can. Help you get through as best as it can? We've got a whole music program has, but before we get into our lineup of musicians. Talk about our beloved sponsor coach Randy A of course, this is becky. Berman of Berman Dot Com Berman. As Computer Consultants Berman C S, Dot Com becky Berman for all your graphic design and web site needs. Have, you seen the latest graphic that she did for us with Bone Dazzling Kitty nut. How can you not folks out there? That is Becky Berman at her best I mean we've gone from season one to season two to three fingers to guitar. We've gotten the the hat for the holiday season. She's she's genius. Becky Berman slogan should be nothing is impossible. Nothing nothing. She turned around in a heartbeat. Hey, world, so on social media at bad to the DAD. That's our handle for most of our social media platforms including Instagram facebook twitter. Of course we have our website bad to the dad dot com, so give us a visit checkout past. Past episodes pictures of our past guest when we're actually in the Dan, which is where coach Randy is sitting now I'm in the cave, which is my basement recording studio? We all have to do our own thing, and and make it happen in these wacky and wild corona virus times we also have a media partner in that as tap into dot net that's tap into dot net for the best local news written for the people by the people. If you live in north, Jersey or in Newark, state or Florida, go to the drop down. You'll probably find it community that is yours or at least nearby to yours and check out. All of the latest news that's tap into dot net now let's talk tunes and some of the folks that are going to be performing right here Kalija data pollution coach Data Palooza. For this hurting Nice lineup begun great light. Hey, great work as always getting all these guests getting are talented fathers and dad's for the show. Thank you so much for your effort in I'm excited wants you to our guests. We listen to hear a little bit. One of my favorite recording artists that we're going to have on. Is Somebody that I learned about my kids were young kids, and that is Mr Array. Jersey guy and he has been. Recording Children's music for what we say. Nineteen, ninety, nine, hundred, a hundred, yeah. MISSUS! The better part of two or three decades now, and he just keeps getting better and better, and he's always recording tunes that are right for our times, but don't go over the heads of young kids, so we've got a performance for Mister Ray. Roth, who is fifteen years old? He is our biggest fan who is not a dad. Performing a song from his Pocono Pennsylvania bunker. That's where that family has retreated during covid nineteen, so he and his Dad Ben. Do a song for us. the HEFF is back Randy hefner from season one. Yes, are you playing? God? He'll be back playing. The UKULELE IS GONNA. Give us an instrumental, so that's going to be more fun than it's legal to have Harry Cardis a friend of ours who we didn't even know as a musician we do. he was just teeing up tunes on on facebook. You wrote A. Virus a song about his wife for the random. A song about gets mother-in-law who. Perhaps we'll hear that I. Don't know Carl, brister nobody classier than crawl brister. Of course he's the organizer of the love and unity fast. He's GonNa get a little bit more creative about that and the composer and performer of L. O. V. E.. We heard LV was premiered. Here live here. During Season Three's GonNa do it again. He's going to give us a live performance. We might hear his father's Day. Song called Daddy's Angel as well who knows and lots of other surprises here on data Palooza. We are the podcast that celebrates suburban dad life and we're celebrating dad on father's Day through music. This is data Palooza. It's bad to the dad with coach Randy and Adam, De hey, listeners make sure that you listen throughout the entire broadcast, especially the last segment because we're going to give you some information as to how you can partner with bad to the dad through advertising. Yes, you can be an advertiser on the fastest growing earliest one of the fastest growing dad based podcasts in all of humanity, and I think the pricing maven surprise. Out of D Oh Man I'm I'm going to shock people to their core without inexpensive. Notice how I didn't say cheap inexpensive are advertising deals will be, and you get. The podcast mentions or the over mentioned. As well as the Social Media Tien So. That's what we do here for our listeners and our partners on to the debt. Coach. A, record center on the program today today's third visit to the show. Any other guests. It's Jason Johnny Internet A. G A. Hello I as you guys told me your huge France and I don't speak French so I'm not really sure what I'm GonNa do Paul you. Have you played in France. I just I just got back actually like like three months ago from con-. Yeah got to see where they do the the film festival. Two little little dippy in the Mediterranean and now. Is was there a speedo involved the listeners? Yeah, but I've worked backwards, which is really weird. I love the visual I love the visual nothing to the imagination. Take pictures. No, thank God for all of us right. Jason left last left off. You were homebound like us. You're offering virtual lessons. I gotTa, tell Ya I been on your facebook page. Riotous you doing the Hanna, barbera drumming to. The flintstones! Scenes even got dressed up for I'm sure your wife was not in the room at the time on his probably. Trying to change your last name just so she wouldn't be affiliated with you. But. Have you been keeping your so busy in the same way? Just we're going on new stuff and yeah. Yeah, I I. Have you know, will we? When we first started talking when the quarantine head it was? kind of I think we all were in the same boat. It's just like you don't. How long is this going to last? What's her work going to be like going to be able to stay in this on on? Online and I look I don't think any of us are making the same kind of money that we were making when when normalcy was happening but I've been able to. Keep very busy and says day myself really well and I think I mentioned the last time. We were. How can play you guys? Yeah, this is really the last time we. Spoke I was talking about how I had put a bunch of. Microphones, you know like I really set a built a studio for myself. A couple years back, and it's really got to the point where I'm really officially recording from home now so before this little podcast. You're talking about a song that I was play. Guys and I just realized that I just cut a song with the lead singer of candlebox Martin. and. You. Just popped in my head. Hey, now and yeah. 'cause I was going throughout the songs that I had done recently, one was eight minutes long, and what was five minutes long, and then I had to sort of dig back in the in the library or place. By just got the mix of it. Like two days ago and it's like the debut of the song so good timing so again. We're going to hear. It here has been new songs smell to. It smells like a new song and a new car and the new. So you'RE GONNA. Hear for the first time. I don't even know. To play yet, but I'M GONNA. Give it to you, guys, so that's all right. We don't have permission to really be doing a podcast and yet we're fifty three episodes congratulate. Don't tell you yes. This is a first timer I love. This happens addy. It is such a a wonderful joy to be able to podcasts original first time music from such talent as Jason Johnny. Thank you. We hear this amazing to the lead singer canucks box, and of course international recording star sensation Jason, Johnny? What are the plans for father's Day? This is after all the father's Day show. Not a whole lot in that I think it's just going to be the parents coming over my wife's parents have a house down in Ventnor exelon city. So they're gonNA. Go visit their house down there for the weekend. And my sister Lisa who knows very well they will be headed out towns long island, her husband's house to his their parents, so I think he's going to be my folks just kind of. Be Grilling. Kind of thing avoiding some thunderstorms. I don't think. It's nice down there. They got a great subject called Dino's read the. US and we will sell advertising for. You gotTa Sit Dino's. Dino's in Margate is just amazing. They make out the best outside of Philly, they make like the best. Hands Down has. I love how we're like so over the quarantine. Ask You? What are you doing this weekend and we're going at a state. We're going fifty miles here. It's like enough enough of this at home grabbed. Can Change the senior I'm still I'm still doing home thing I'm still. I'm still got some hangups about this, so you know I have a feeling billion about three or four weeks after these protests on crap. That's been going on. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA have some other news unfortunately, but let's say. I think you're right Jason John Edrich back with him at behind John that one. I'm right behind you. Put them in a box and zoom like more like above you, but you're saying so. Let's continue to stay home and flatten the curb and mask where we can Jason. Again t up the song and get her tee up the performance and tell us a little bit about what we're about to hear so My I was in a band in San, Francisco for ten years resigned to thirty third. Street records which tower records. Record. Label Bama's called. and. We had a couple of singles on the radio and It's been around for a while still even after I left, but we got a little unfortunate departure, and I moved back to the east coast. But I have kept in touch with my leads to hurt dawn and Don Mix has written this song He has toured with the guys from candlebox over the last couple of years, different projects counter boxes, silvery activist, sounding great and Don wrote. Anti Gun song and it's a I'm not really sure all the details about the song. It hasn't officially be released like I said. But it features me on drums. Kevin Martin from candlebox on the vocals of lead. Don, did some stuff on the track and I'm trying to remember the fourth musician and I. I don't remember who it is, but it's somebody on and say it's like. Somebody like that plays with John, Mayer or something like that, but it's good sort of like an all star band from about different different things like you're and I am a big fan of Martin I. Think he's a wonderful singer, so it's an honor, a flame with him on this and it's really great song to really what's a call? In your hands is yes in your hand so I take that out and play for us all right. We're about to hear in your hands. Jason, Johnny and other assorted members of of other bands right here on bad to the death. design. May, undefined. Ken. Fast. And Change. In. Stay! An. Ev. From? Tonight. We. Back. owned. Data Palooza, our music special in honor of Dad and Fathers Day. We hope you're having a great father's Day and we hope you're enjoying this program. It coach, you probably remember season two. There was a father daughter duo. Was Riley and Riley Han and Matt haunt I think it I think it tucked up to be one of our top shows. It was definitely one of my favorite shows, and you're Riley's friend of my daughter's. We got to learn a little bit more about Madha. A daddy is a great many things including play music with his daughter, and they blew us away with their version of shallow. Yes, star is born. They had aired previously on Youtube and facebook and got like a million something hits. Go Get. Yeah I! Know I think. Because they played over your honored to have them in at that. When people are actually meeting in the dating, yeah, what do you tells me? Stop teasing me already. What are you talking about? Love to tease coach, but We have a special performance specifically for this podcast bad to the dead podcast of Riley and her dad. Matt performing the fleetwood Mac hit. Landslide right here on bed to the dead I, am Matt. I'm Riley everyone of the bad to the DAD podcast harassing the clay on this father's Day celebration. happy father's Day. Dad's. Demands? On us. CARB. Issue Oh. See. Well! Father's Day. We're back to the dead with coach Randy and Adam de you're listening to data Palooza. This is our musical celebration of DADS on our day father's Day. They remember can always contact us. You got an email of course you do. US! Dot Com. That's contact us at bad to the DAD DOT com. You have a guest idea for season four. You've gotTA question. Ask US questions will be happy not only to read your email, but possibly answer it sometime in season for. Coach probably remember season one. We had a dude on who spent his lift. living lifting jugs of water and I know you excited about jugs coach, but he was also love jogging. I know you do never stops. It was also pretty damn good Ukulele player, and we even did a little name that tune with him and he is going. Yeah you remember that. Yeah, it was it was. It was a fun time I? Remember I look back on it fondly. It's appointed. Or we're really happy to have the half back with us on our Fathers Day musical celebration Heff Houria. Good, are you? I'm remember correctly. Remember correctly coaches very six eight on the jug. Thought about jugs. Still I haven't thought about jugs. It. It's not was at the time I mean it's just. The switch that goes off. Though so tell us. How is. How is life for a A water delivery guy in these wacky uncertain and challenging times. Was in the beginning, it was it was pretty intense I. mean people run into ores? Just clearing the shelves. it was. It was pretty intense in the beginning there now it's kind of a back to normal. Weren't a mask stinks. I I hate it. I hate wearing a mask working. It's horrible, but he looks good in a mask, I gotta tell you about where Bass. He wears them as well. Heff. Did you ever Burp in your mask and then smell? Are Sure sneezed in. Oh, yeah. Ever Logan and And forget that as long as. You ever been in a Turkish prison with. airplay good job. I knew I, know out of rain surges. I hate wearing a mask. Out The one downfall, grow man naked. F You like it when the dog now we're. We're not going to go there so RA. Randy hefner I can't help but notice that you've got the Ukulele back for your next appearance, so you have a little tune prepared for our data. PALOOZA program here I did I'M GONNA. Do in. Honor of my daughter, Abby. She's a billy Irish Fan. Learn a little billie eyelash tune you familiar. Are you familiar with? Yes and what's what's her thing? Is it bad guy? On barrier friends. You know Barry Friend. Well that sounds just as loving and enjoyable as bad a thing song when you bury your friend, right? Vanessa of you won't even know success since you don't know it sounds like. It's it's pretty. It's pretty dark. Tune actually well I'm so glad that you've chosen that for our celebration of dares. But in honor of your daughter and honor my daughter. Really dark and sick, twisted segment, but We've got the half. And when you have the half's, but I love you, I love you. I love you. All right have those years rock on? The. It We are bad to with coach Randy. And Adam Dr, Father's Day special celebrating DADS with music. It's our father's Day jam and remember bad to. The DAD is sponsored by Berman Branding Becky Berman Berman CIS DOT COM. That's Berman's. Getting services. Dot Com coach. Randy, it's all about marketing. Right websites graphic design. We've been pretty happy with what she's done for us. Absolute disaster this work for me my own company, so I'm a big Fan. I'm a doer. I. A user absolutely and Becky is very happy that you're using her services, and you will find a more talented marketing person again. Graphic design website design. She's got it all figured out speaking of a person who's got it all figured out. We've got a dad on WHO's musically inclined. His name is Harry Cardis, a friend from our community and Harry were so happy to have gone bad to the data. While, others, there's Day Music Special Lope. Aria we are doing great. I was you've been in covert nineteen? If you've been making the best of it, yeah, it's actually It's been there. There's been several lying's in the in the dark cloud, actually just in terms of. Getting together with family more often via zoom. Probably see more than than I would ordinarily. Actually you know from a work standpoint, a lot more productive in that note note we're not commuting in and out of the city, which is upwards of two three hours a day, so can use that time work productively, so it's all in all it's. It's it's not bad good. How are you know the saying you think you know a guy? And we've known each other for a little while now and you know the thing about social media? It's amazing because it's sort of uncorked talents that your followers never knew you had about I'd say a month maybe month and a half ago when Kobe was really at its peak. You performed an acoustic tune about your experiences your observations in Cova I. Think we're going to hear that a little later on right right? Yeah, I'll. I'll play that I am. I kinda just is is a hobby dabbled in songwriting. It would be It would be without really aspire to do, but I think it's probably not going to happen at this point But. A man can drink. Man can only dream that's it. And perform. I mean it was really only a dream that I would have would be on this podcast here. I am so. There you go, which is why you become throats, Randy Gibbs, dream for coach, Randy, and me, and then and then we woke up and yet we're still here. Doing the PODCAST, so it's as they say if you will it. It is no dream. It's true. I concur I concur. Dad's of course no, your kids were a little older, but you know being that his quarantine times, and now we're. We're huddled up a little bit more. Would you like to do with your family with your kids? Quarantine non quarantine. You know things are normal. What's what is fun looked like as a family with Cardis, well, we. Actually have three jets grown at a? Thirty three year old, who actually lives in Jersey City married My daughter is the youngest she lives in the city normally, but she moved, they moved in and she and her boyfriend moved in with us, back in March, so in that time we actually moved to a new house. We moved from north. Call well to West Orange. They moved with us in. They are still with us, and I had a third son in. LA? Out So. Again we get together quite often on zone. At yesterday, this weekend was my life's birthday. and My Son From Jersey. City and his wife came out, so we social distanced on the deck yesterday at dinner and. It's A. It's not been so bad. But. Just getting together at every opportunity again. That's really what we try to do. Awesome happy birthday astor had birthday to esther. Thank you actually put a little song out yesterday I. Don't do that a lot. You know you referenced the Covid Nineteen. Song I did do that. Is kind of the moment was ripe for it in a? So I. put it out there and I did it. Put a little Arroyo esther. Little Song that we're GonNa we anniversary later this month, also thirty fifth wedding anniversary so. At wrote a song and that out the other day, too, so I'm. I'm really branching out. Sense metality such a sentimental guy had no no idea the the love that comes from your heart through music. That is your. What is your Muse Nitin actually. I didn't realize that either. My News, you know most of the writing I do is is is very personal. It comes from you know. Kids or family or Actually have an older sister. Who Lives in, Israel she She uses medicinal marijuana. For for headaches, and actually I think the headaches are gone, but she's still using it as a preventative. Preventative solution never let doesn't headaches coming back Nancy twist arm either no, you want to give her a medicine that she can. She got? She inspired a song called. Grandma is a pocket. So you know you never know where GonNa. That's what I'd like to hear. We're GONNA. have to bring you back. Played we can play that one, too. was making that. That's good stick. Good Stick Anyway Yeah Harry is of course a show about Dad's when we have first time. Dad's on. We'd like to do a segment called dad vice where our guests provide advice, other dads who might be listening and he kernels of wisdom from you that you could share with other dads of any age in stage across the board. Wow that's. I should have gotten some warning on this one any advice. That's why we don't give you warning because we wanted to be spontaneous and thought of the heart or any other any bodily organ that you would like this information to come from. Just communicate you know you stay in touch. not know what's going on. You know again. You know when when they're. They're typically not on their allies us at my daughter's here now. A unique situation but When they're not around, you know you want to. Just stay in touch, show we. We make a point to try to speak at least weekly. And You know just catch up in the end Keep your fingers on the pulse. That's that's I guess what I would say. Very, lovely very Levin. A man with many years of being dad's. Yes, that's great dad vice. Got Some great hair to show for that, too. Yeah I'm catching up to you. Will you let more than? Know I know that's so what? What's my problem, right? Harry WanNa hear your musical stylings, and I think you're. You'RE GONNA play. That I'm I'm? I'm probably messing up the title, but that owed to to covid nineteen. That was the first tune that I stumbled upon on Facebook, and of course Once you've finished performing. We're in a lead our audience to where they can find some year performances, but Let's let's hear that that Cova tune if that's what you'd like to play for us, okay. I am. Was Out actually this was sort of a inspired one day I was out riding a bike, and it was sort of at the outset when people were really settling in and whatnot. Now is a pretty day Kinda like the day. and. I was just amazed. There were so many people out on street. People were social distancing. But you know I thought to myself if we were not in this situation. They wouldn't have been anywhere near the number of people out just walking in in the yard, playing with the kids. That sort of thing so got home that day and it's sort of inspired this song called. Ballad of Code Nineteen? It's not mate. You scream and shout people stay. Instead, go. would. Only be witnessing. Thing. They're calling social distancing. Round as far as I can see. All caught up in the sense added. On the other side, we'll all be better just wait. On Not by side inlet cool clean-air. Practic- so many. Live. Up Announced Street. And in their yard, they were careful actor. Let down their guard was one thing. The young Laura saw that. Family together for a child's birthday. Shared a smile and wave me as asked on. You don't have to. do be able to see a lot of people forming next year rule league. They're all live at thanking so selflessly. So we can rest. Assured did weaken all scar-free. When we're in Dr They. Channel lied on you. When you feel, you're sinking into the abyss, you can look around and find. There's beauty in this doesn't matter it. Sunny stormy weather. All that matters is that we're all in this together years of body. Hoping we might embrace product would jusoh in someone else's. New winner will be. Old. You. Don't happen. To be able to see. Performing actually room. They get their all with thinking so selflessly. So we can rest assured that we can have all. Every When we're in the dark, they shiny line on you. When we're in the dark nation, light on you. Were Bad to the dad with coach, Randy and Adam De. We really hope you're enjoying our musical spectacular in honor of Dad Data Palooza a musical celebration of Dad's first time. We've ever done kind of a concert. He type of program here concert type of special of we're glad you. The listener are a part of it. You'RE GONNA WANNA stay to the very end. Of this bad to the DAD special as pledge said, the very was, it was sun was so sudden. She's been. She's been sick for weeks. The very which he actually died was very sudden, so were applying that same fletch methodology to the podcast. You WanNa. Wait to the very end of our our program here because coach. We've got a another special bonus song from Harry. Cars are bad to the dead with coach. Randy and Adam de this is our musical celebration of DADS are dad jam fest. Fest remember you can see pictures of this. As well as all of our other guests over other shenanigans on social media at add to the dad that has are handled for pretty much all of our social media platforms, and of course we have a website because any enterprise worth its name has a website or is simply add to the dead dot com. That's bad to the DAD DOT com. Coach we have all kinds of listeners every every stage, every gender, every kind of lifestyle lost today. We've got a special treat on the segment of our Fathers Day jam session. We have our youngest biggest fan who is not a Dad, and that is Warren Roth who has joined by his Dad Ben Roth, and they're coming to I, believe from from Pennsylvania where they've been hiding out from from the corona virus, war and Ben. How are you and welcome to bad? Father's Day. Thank you house morning. It is going great. It's going great and it is really really good to have this. This is a musical program musical. Celebration of Dads and you have repaired attuned i. what are we going to hear from him? I don't care by Ed Sheeran and I just destined Bieber. Very ambitious. We're looking forward to hearing. That tuned from Warren and Ben Roth right here on the bad to the dad musical celebration, it is our dads jam session. Take it away fellas. Madam Party I don't WanNa be out. Now never wear soon tie. 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We are bad to the dad with coach Randy and Adam de and you are listening to data Palooza our musical celebration of DADS on Father's day and remember you can email us questions. You can even email us guest suggestions by sending us an email to contact us at bad to the DAD DOT com. That's contact us at bad to the DAD DOT com. Coach. I think you'd agree that everything. We learned about what we needed to. In Life, we got from Chevy Chase and Mel Brooks films. Would you agree with that without a doubt, maybe Bill Murray. He he's a diff-, Chevy Chase and Mel Brooks are God's. He's a dummy got yeah all right I getting. You're probably just referring stripes just got off with that one in their Ma Ma my kids, who went to the J. C.. C. Nursery school everything they needed to know about life. They learn from songs like led Elephant Kalian the alien. When it came to kindness when they needed to learn about all the colors in the rainbow, they learned it from boy named Roy G Biv. And all of these songs came from the creative mind of children's Rockstar Ray Anderson better known to audiences as Mr Ray Ray, thank you so much for being on band of the dead and our musical celebrating Dad's a low JEN's. Thank you for having me well welcome. Nice intro. Thank you. That's very heartwarming. Thank you super. Have you super to hat on? You gotta tune that. You're going to be playing for us. So, what are we going to be hearing? It's called first father's Day I wrote it about probably a year and a half after I became a dad. And you know just it's just A. It's a celebration. A right of passage of song and my daughter's fifteen now she she starts. Assange goes I of you Yati, and you know just to hear that now just to have that Sonic Tom time capsule. At the beginning. Record for the beat starts on my ash, in in fact, when I was preparing for this I was thinking you hadn't heard it in a while and put it on and. Gallo Misty, listening to her on. That to US yeah right. 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We are bad to the dad with coach, Randy and Adam De, and you're listening to was special recorded segment. Or our father's Day addition it's our father's Day jam session using music. Celebrate dads around the world to. Coach. You'd probably agree if you're GONNA have a father's Day jam session began do it without one of our season three guests, and that is and be Gospel recording artists. Or. BRISTER Welcome back good to see a partner. Coming back. At the happy father's Day, first of all, yeah, thank you man! Thank you same to you got thank you. So Carla GonNa, tell Ya last night we had you on. It was a couple months ago and you were releasing your new single L O V. Yeah and you had position L. O. V. as exactly what we needed at this time. But at that time covert was really the only thing that was stealing headlines. Now, you know Karl what they say about hindsight. We think that perhaps L. E. was released. Two months too early, and have you been giving that? A lot of thought given current events. Now No, We still need. Yeah love never. Goes out of style on this. Is. Is. Is a solution in every situation. You know and. I don't know how. I don't know how. To feel about it, you know I. I know that the world is always needed more low. But. It's definitely every. In this moment right now. So is must song is here. At this time. I'm deceiving more grateful that could apply to those who are dealing with Kobe nineteen, and now the whole world was. We're feeling the effects of what happened. was happening throughout this news, so let's let's kick things off with elevate. Her commenced. Got The! Maybe you can help them rather. Hyun I. Why can't we to slab turn. Your honesty, Can We, I'm we figure this loving? Thue. Knowing. One thing. How well! We need. No Discrimination No Miss Education. Across the nation and politician making. ovoid of came. Came? What you're on this? ooh! Gun violence legislation. Look. No. In? Thanks for Doing L. O. V. E. AGAIN FOR US in my life I've. Gone on bad to the DAD. You still enjoy performing that over and over and over again. The days horrible. Today, is heart okay when I wrote, the song are voted. By than there's a line in night was inspired by buying. A Memento soon is an I re. Embedded no more. And when I wrote that line. Never thought that. It would apply. Directly to another. As an American male at the hands of police officers saying I can't. This is is the first time I've done it since George Slower. Almost high. Yeah so that's interesting. You know not that we're trying to blow smoke up own podcast here, Randy but L. O. V. premiered. Yes I'm bad to the dad during Ovid and now. On this. Version has different kind of emotional. Thank you Carl. Carl! Thanks for making US auto for this. Wonderful Song would it gets to call you have another song is really spot on for Father's Day's Skull Daddy's Angel. Can you tell us a limit a little bit about it before you start playing? Yeah Daddy's angel. Is Song released of years ago on my my album funded defeated and it's been. Going strong on spotify. Every says in. A week before my youngest son Jordan was born. And so my oldest was already. A year. So it was impossible to both of them, so they're actually by the time recorded on it. and it was the first song that Jordan Bird. Coming home from the hospital. So I was just like nervous. My wife was having. Braxton Hicks. Yes, you know fake labor, but real labor real labor. We're not GONNA catch. Good Catch Carly! You did there. I was nervous man. I was nervous. At this. Crawl myself down I went to the keyboard I started playing and the next thing i. now have a song. That's out. Tell it happened at. Absolutely. Love to hear Daddy's angels, so call brister bed to the dead. S. CETERA. A? Who? To See Mar.. Link. You. A. Man's. We are bad to the debt. Hey, thanks for listening to data Palooza, our father's Day Music Celebration WanNa, thank all of our musical guests putting the time to rehearse putting in the time with us, so we could record all those performances in interviews. This was one of the most fun episodes I realized it. Required more sweat equity produce, but it was just so much fun listening all those different genres of music, and realizing how talented people in our community and people in the Brotherhood bad to the dad actually are so super nice. It was nice to reconnect with some of our old favorite. Guests and then. A. Couple of surprises in there. Couple of couple talented so. I gotTA. Tell you as we say couple my Jewish community muzzle top. Mazal Tov. I think I want to have a muzzle. Tov cocktail right now I think. Got GotTa be five o'clock somewhere. It's father's Day. Why not right absolute no rules? It's our day you know. Make sure that you enjoy the day dads and pair of course in France. 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