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Fresh "Raven" from Ken Broo
"Dropping down a 26 a little bit on the chilly side, but then Sunday warming up to 39 from your server Weather station online first morning, forecaster. Raven Richard News Radio 700 wlw Word 43 degrees from clouds rolling in no rain on the radar. North College Hill Police are looking for a missing teenage girl. 14 year old Sara Watkins was reported missing Friday afternoon at three o'clock. She was last seen at her home on Columbine Court about eight o'clock in the morning. She is black 5 ft. Tall with brown braided hair that's possibly in a ponytail, and she might be wearing a red, white and blue Tommy Hilfiger coat, black pants and.
The NFL's Covid Chaos
"We'll so lindsay this week. We saw something that we haven't seen since nineteen forty eight. An nfl game being played on a wednesday. Can you just walk us through how this happened. And how things unfolded for the ravens. In the last two weeks this game was originally scheduled to be played on thanksgiving night. It was the prime time game. Really the marquee. Matchup of thanksgiving between the undefeated pittsburgh steelers and the baltimore ravens. So right after the ravens previous game. They received multiple positive tests from players guys. Who'd played in the game before the ravens. a porn. Another outbreak coronavirus positive tests among both players and staff member. They go through the contact tracing process they try to figure out who all of the high risk close contacts are and they realized that a lot of guys across the roster and across the coaching staff. We're going to end up being not just high risk close contacts but we're probably going to end up test positive. Let's start the baltimore ravens positive tests for the organization. It's not just players. There were reportedly four positives today but only one player placed on the covid nineteen reserve list. That's my backer. What we saw was that four about nine straight days. There was at least one new positive test within the baltimore ravens organization. And that's really why this game got moved because it was day after day after day of new positive tests and then ultimately the game was moved to three forty pm wednesday afternoon. Which was the most bizarre kickoff time that any of us can remember and it was of course. It was moved to wednesday afternoon because nbc needed to air the christmas tree lighting ceremony. Oh you know it feels like nothing can stop the juggernaut. That is the nfl except christmas. The nfl is not joining the war on christmas. I mean they've had enough. Things been bobbing and weaving about this year. Prior to the game on wednesday ravens players reportedly told league officials that they were concerned about being unprepared physically for a major rivalry game. That's noted for its physicality in the past and some players also expressed concerns about getting on a plane when they were still returning positive tests. How did the nfl respond to those concerns by players about their safety. Well there are two separate issues and the nfl has really tried to separate when they talk about health and safety this year when they're talking about cova health and safety and what they've learned about the virus and every positive test they're doing genomic tracing on the samples to try to figure out exactly where it's coming from exactly what strain of the virus. They're getting down into all of the very gritty details to figure out so they were pretty sure that nobody was going to be getting on that plane. That had a new active case. That wasn't somebody who was already previously exposed or somebody. They expected that was part of this outbreak. The other questions though about preparedness and the safety of playing basically without practicing for ten days. I mean they were able to get on the field for one walk through and then they kind of had one other practice. But that's a realistic question. And that's something that the nfl hasn't had a really good answer for other. Then you're just going to do it. And i totally understand why ravens players were concerned about it
Fresh update on "raven" discussed on CBS Sports Radio
"Don't you think when you get to eat in three But yet I feel like the Browns. I feel like the Buffalo Bills, who are also eight and three. Just don't seem to be getting credit. What are we supposed to do? Just give Kansas City credit is that all we do? And everybody else short. All of Kansas City and patch from homes. Isn't good. Is that really what we're gonna do? You think it's just gonna be easy for the Chiefs? I mean, two people forget that the Chiefs were down like 24 points. To Shawn Watson, the Houston, Texas last year. I don't think it's gonna be a cakewalk like would any of these teams really want to play? The bills of the Browns in a playoff game. I mean, I remember everybody thought last year was gonna be easy for the Baltimore Ravens. The New England Patriots. And what happen to the Patriots. They run in the Derrick Henry. And their season is over and Brady leaves. I just don't know if it's gonna be as easy as everyone said We were joined by Zach Jackson of the athletic and I said, Is this just everybody looking up at Patrick Holmes and you can see chiefs but I think people forget This is not the MBA. This is not college football. Where we know the outcomes of these games a week ahead. Not even close. The NFL. These teams play so many Close games, especially in the playoffs. Ah, specially when weather becomes a gigantic factor, as you know, it will. And right now, as slated these thieves games and I go into a bubble. Not gonna just play all these games and Say Arizona or Indy in a dome. As it stands right now, they're gonna be playing in the elements. And I can't wait to see it because teams like the Titans, the Browns, even the bills, they have running games. And what they always say about running games. Travels, and it's certainly Travels into the postseason. And I'm excited about it. All right, 855 to 1 to four CBS That's four. 2 to 7. I want to get you on board. Do you feel like your team is getting disrespected? Who are the most disrespected teams right now in the NFL and When we come back. Something happened in the NBA this week. That should be alarming. When it comes to the health of the league. I'll get into that will continue our NFL discussion next. Anthony Lima in for Ken Carmen, CBS Sports Radio, Are you the parent of a 227.
Pittsburgh Steelers win 19-14 over the Baltimore Ravens
"Pittsburgh nineteen baltimore fourteen baltimore. Of course i mean is coming off. They hardly could practice for the past week or so they deaf. They didn't have lamar jackson they had to start. Rg three robert griffin third. And we'll get into him later but hit. He was horrific horrific although he did have one. Nice run my goodness talked about a fall from grace but anyway he was bad but the steelers won and now rob. They are eleven. Oh and i gotta give props to mike tomlin. He remember a few years ago. It was all the rage was to rip mike tomlin. He's shaky he'd had no it. He's doing he told him about terry. Bradshaw said he had pom-pom gotta leader
Steelers overcome rust, short-handed Ravens to move to 11-0
"The Pittsburgh Steelers survived a scare from short handed Baltimore beating the ravens nineteen fourteen six days after the original scheduled date of the game Ben Roethlisberger pass for two hundred sixty six yards and a score helping the Steelers to an eleven record for Pittsburgh players caught only six passes Benny Snell ran for sixty yards the Steelers host Washington Monday Baltimore now six and five had to promote ten players from its practice squad due to a covert nineteen outbreak in the March Jackson's place Robert Griffin the third pass for thirty three yards he ran for sixty eight before leaving the game in the fourth quarter Josh Rowntree Pittsburgh
TikTok Moguls Become Part Owners of ReKT Global
"You Sports and to talk really do go hand-in-hand and the connection became a little bit closer yesterday. I'm maturing since the Esports minute from E Sports Network. The Esports minute is presented by technology game-changers. Check them out at TGC play linked below whatever talking with somebody in a brand or company, but why they're interested in Esports? They always talk about the demo page on digitally native hard to reach consumers that Brands just aren't reaching through other platforms. That's true of Esports and it's true of tic toc lately Jen's. He's preferred social media platform has grown closer to the generations preferred competitive entertainment this week to massive ticktockers became co-owners of wrecked Global these Sports organization behind teams, like the London Royal Ravens and broke Josh Richardson and Griffin Johnson joined a long list of celebrity co-owners with wrecked while I don't see their content on my for you page. They command a pretty massive audience as primary members of the sway house and La Josh Homme. 24 million followers on the platform while Griffin has about 10 mil gaming content is huge on the platform as one would expect given that natural overlap. There was also a popular hashtag titled Esports for all that hashtag drove over 5 million views on all videos, but most of them weren't actually any sort of Esports content. So yeah, I don't really know how to tick tocks hashtags work either but hey five billion views incredible for something that has a sports in the title on the actual Esports side as one could expect FaZe Clan Topsy Sports organizations with about four point five million followers on the platform for the corporate Channel SM also has over a million but G2 Team Liquid Cloud 9 and are G are all under a million. Some of those are under 100K and I think those are pretty good selection of some of the biggest Esports organizations out there considering following of Griffin and Josh. It won't take much for rec to be competing with phase when it comes to Total influence on the platform, especially if they start pumping out more branded content through the sway house. Tik Tok is dead. Fascinating and has created massive stars in a short short time Howie Sports organizations use the platform as contact and get more creative post covid-19 testing to see
Goodell: NFL committed to finishing regular season on time
"The commissioner spoke before the Pittsburgh Baltimore game it was supposed to be played thanksgiving night but was rescheduled twice because of coronavirus cases among the ravens the Denver Broncos played their schedule game Sunday despite having no experienced quarterbacks Goodell says it will take partnership and discipline to complete the season and he is confident they can do it the commissioner also said the NFL is considering a bubble format for the playoffs but it may be different than what was done in the NHL and NBA I'm a Donahue
Ravens-Steelers game is on
"This wednesday. Nfl matinee is on the ravens flew to pittsburgh last night. The face the steelers today at three forty his by two more positive corona virus tests before they departed. Those individuals were left behind baltimore. Also activated four from the cove reserve list yesterday. Now mark ingram and jk dobbins. We thought we were going to be activated this morning and then fly to pittsburgh to join the team. According to multiple reports now they will not play. It'll be gus edwards running back for baltimore's that's more good news for the steelers. As far as opponent goes
Mike Tomlin fined $100,000 for sideline incident with Jacoby Jones
"$100,000 for interfering with a play against the Baltimore Ravens on Thanksgiving. In the third quarter of the Ravens. 22 20 victory to Cobi Jones swerves to avoid colliding with Tomlin and his tackled after a 73 year old returned that might have gone for a touchdown. If not for the obstruction on. That's just some of what happened this
Dallas-Ravens game postponed until next Tuesday
"Game against the Baltimore Ravens is now scheduled to take place a week from today. On Tuesday, December 8th. It's the second time the game has been moved into an ongoing covert 19 outbreak among Ravens players. It's believed to be the first Tuesday game and franchise history for Dallas. W Away
Ravens-Steelers game postponed for a 3rd time to Wednesday
"Have a date to play for a third time. The league says The teams will play this Wednesday. The game's been postponed multiple times because of a continuing Corona have virus outbreak on the Ravens. Here's NPR's Tom Goldman. The game between these two division rivals originally was scheduled for Thanksgiving night. But then there Thursday game became a Sunday game than a Tuesday game and now Wednesday afternoon in Pittsburgh. Bouncing ball nature of the contest followed a weeklong cascade of positive coronavirus tests among the Ravens. More than 20 players have either tested positive or been exposed to the virus. On Wednesday, Baltimore will be missing a reported 12 active players, including reigning league and VP quarterback Lamar Jackson. The rescheduling is just one of a growing number of challenges the NFL is facing as it tries to navigate the pandemic while cases surge nationwide. Tom Goldman. NPR NEWS NFL
Pittsburgh Steelers game versus Washington Football Team postponed
"Pittsburgh. That game has been pushed back again. Post Paul from Tuesday night toe Wednesday afternoon 3 40 Eastern kickoff from Pittsburgh, and that rescheduled game leads to more week. 13 shuffling The Steelers will now play the Washington football team on Monday evening. Not this Sunday in the Ravens Week 13 game against the Cowboys that will take place on Tuesday night. December, the eighth The 40. Niners next two home games versus Buffalo Week. 13 versus Washington A week 14. They're going to be played the Cardinals Home Stadium in Glendale, Arizona, because of Covert 19 restrictions in place in Santa Clara County, Texas.
NFL's Steelers-Ravens game postponed a third time due to Covid-19
"The nfl's in rough shape right now with this whole thing going on with the ravens and the steelers They're gonna try and get that game in at least as we record this. As of this moment there still going to try and get in the ravens and steelers game but man the ravens are just like. I think they're close to twenty employees now twenty players. I should say twenty players and then a number of others who are employees that That are off off. The can't play because of kobe whether they've been exposed or actually have it and it's a. It's a big problem with with the ravens right now in summer wondering okay is this. You know you guys handling this properly like it's it's gotten so bad with the ravens that may be the place to just have the ravens forfeit the game. Because he's got pretty soon. Maybe but in the meantime he's like you know obviously as a as a franchise you didn't do a very good job of keeping cove it at bay so maybe you should pay for that with an l. See all when you're passing enough tests to get back in the action.
Ravens-Steelers game postponed for a 3rd time to Wednesday
"The NFL has postponed the Ravens Steelers game for a third time, moving it from tomorrow. Toe Wednesday Kick off will be at 3 40 in the afternoon. Baltimore has 19 players on the cove in 19 reserve list.
Steelers-Ravens game postponed again to Wednesday
"Game that was originally scheduled for Thanksgiving night has now been postponed a third time because of covert issues in Baltimore's organization. ESPN reporting that game has now been moved from tomorrow until Wednesday night. In Pittsburgh.
Record-setting 2020 Atlantic hurricane season ends
"Season ends today and it has definitely been a long, strange trip in the Atlantic, Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico. 2020 will go down as the most active Atlantic hurricane season on record. There have been 30 named Storms 13 Hurricanes, six of them, right. King major status. The season started early when Arthur formed in mid May before the official start of the season. Jude first This was only the second time that letters of the Greek alphabet had to be used for storm names. The other was 2000 and five A named Storm formed in late December of that year. Jim Krystle, a CBS News Will the Steelers and Ravens play
Iran newspaper: Strike Haifa if Israel killed scientist
"Iranian officials continue to blame Israel for Friday's killing of a nuclear scientist but what will they do about it retired US navy admiral bill McRaven says retaliation is on the way hearings are going to be in a position where they have to retaliate I don't see any way around it they're gonna have to save face and so now the issue becomes what does that retaliation look like does that then began to escalate the the problems in the region and that's not going to be good for anybody as for what country Iran will focus on Iran there are either suspects or knows that Israel was responsible for this attack and then of course kind of by association they're going to assume that we use are collaborating with it or at a minimum more reading of a of the Israelis actions Nick raven spoke on ABC's this week shortly after Washington
NFL closing team facilities Monday, Tuesday amid spike
"Announced today. All team facilities will be closed Monday and Tuesday because of a spike in covert case is the only exceptions or teams scheduled to play Monday or Tuesday. That includes the Sea Hawks and Eagles and Ravens. Steelers. The Ravens Added six more players to their covert list today. That makes 18 since Monday case is also mounting for the Steelers, according to reports Pittsburgh Running back James Connor tested positive for the coronavirus today.
NFL closing team facilities Monday, Tuesday amid spike
"NFL is closing all team facilities to in person activities Monday and Tuesday and will not applied. It seems playing on those days, which would be the Seattle Seahawks and Philadelphia Eagles on Monday and Pittsburgh Steelers in Baltimore Ravens on Tuesday. The league is citing the spike in covert 19 cases in the league and around the country. All activities will be conducted virtually with the exception of essential medical treatment.
NFL orders shutdown of team facilities Monday and Tuesday to slow spread of COVID-19
"Meanwhile, the NFL trying to get a hand on the rise of covert 19 cases. Closing all team facilities to in person activities Monday and Tuesday, but that does not include teams playing those days. Steelers and Ravens game push to Tuesday night Robert Griffin, the third making the start, Lamar Jackson testing positive for covert. 19 also made the Thursday Ravens Cowboys game get rescheduled for Monday. December
"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
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"raven" Discussed on Work in Progress with Sophia Bush
"Hi Everyone Sophia. Bush here welcomed a work in progress where I talked to people who inspire me about how they got to where they are and where they think they're still going. I everyone welcome to another special episode of work in progress where we will be continuing our video series mean to know. Each week I'll be sitting down with experts to get the answers to your most pressing questions about what is going on in the world right now and what we need to know about this pandemic. I am thrilled to introduce you to my guests today. She is often known as Raven the Science Maven, she's a woman who continues to crush boundaries placed on people in the stem field particularly marginalized populations she is the brilliant multitalented Raven Baxter. Raven is nationally acclaimed science communicator molecular biologist who works to advance the state of science culture by creating spaces earn -clusive educational and Real Raven Creates relatable and engaging digital media in the form of science themed rap music videos, and social media as a way to teach science online and foster important conversations about stem culture. She's an inspiration for young underrepresented students to pursue careers in science technology, engineering, and math. In case you were wondering what stem stands for and she is the founder of Stem Vesey a science advocacy organization. And Web series, Raven was also recognized in this year's Fortune Magazine's forty under forty and is currently completing a PhD in science education studying the relationship between how the media's representation of scientists impacts how adults identify with science in my conversation with Ruben, we discuss her childhood, her experiences as a corporate scientist underrepresentation in higher education and stem the current state of science culture, the mutation of the cove nineteen virus, and what we need to know about it and the importance of.
"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
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"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
"Mike the Iraqis working everyone in the Obama Administration and even in Congress to get this accomplished in a cable dated January Eighth Ford said Ambassador Christopher Hill explained to attorney general holder. The problems that judge or Venus decision was causing Iraq Hill said he assured Prime Minister Malecki that the US government took Iraqi feelings very seriously and would continue to take an active interest in the case on January eleventh the Iraqi Vice. President, brought up the case in a meeting with senators, Joseph Lieberman, John Barrosso, and John Thune. He again stressed the importance of an appeal and again mentioned that a blackwater employee had killed his bodyguard for its cables. One that the Iraqis were looking for political cover and believed that judge. Urbina. Decision would inevitably harm. US Iraqi relations. But as we learned, it was a lot more complicated than needing to look tough against the American occupiers for your constituents. Gina. During our research, I read a fascinating book by Emma skied. She's a WHO, loudly protested the war. She was right there marching up in front and London. But she eventually went on to play a key role in the American war effort. She served as a key advisor to general break, Odierno, and the Coalition Provisional Authority. Skyros of the relationship between the two countries was about to come undone any way, and for reasons that had nothing to do with Raven to three. Here's the guy giving a lecture at Yale University in two, thousand and fifteen. In during the surge, the level of violence Iraq decreased dramatically. And, we Iraqis for the country's on the right track is going to go in the right direction. In twenty ten, the national elections were held. High Participation. On the results were very, very close, very, very close contested results. Unfortunately the US didn't. 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It was the devil that we knew, but the price was the lives and freedom of for American veterans. So. Who was Malecki and why one American Selena Iraq. So badly if we were supporting his regime. And why are we bending over backwards? To satisfy him. Let's take that first question. President George W, Bush had to overlook quite a track record of anti-americanism when he chose Nouri Al Malecki to lead post occupation Iraq, Malecki, had spent the previous three decades in exile in Iran and Syria Malecki lead the Islamic Dowa parties, covert operations mainly against Saddam? Hussein's government those activities included attacks directed by his Iranian government sponsors and they included the bombings of the US and French embassies in Kuwait in one, thousand, nine, hundred, three. NFL Qambar was the head of the Iraq National Congress. That's the main opposition to Saddam Hussein. In Washington DC. He served as a member of Paul, Bremmer Governing Council in Iraq and as the deputy military attache in Washington in the post Saddam. Iraqi. Government entity was the spokesman for the Deputy Prime Minister and Advisor for National Security. Issues. For the deputy head of the Iraq parliament. So what I'm saying here is and defied has a deep knowledge of this puzzling decision. Here he explains how Bush an ambassador Zalmay, Khalilzad put Malecki and power, and why Obama and Biden kept him there. was appointed by the US embassy. Baghdad. He was He didn't know he was going to be a prime minister. They call them at night and he called him. Come in. And they're not stable. They told him you making the prime. minister. He's Sporting. And, this guy is responsible for blowing up knockin the embattled in nineteen eighty two. Sixty five people and. This is the same I i. just this is important. visit the same person that Joe by. 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"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
"I really hope you're right. And frankly I'd like to see some of the prosecutors in the Raven to three case. Go to prison because they deprived for people of their freedom and basically ruined their lives. You know as in the poor house You know the conditions that these families were forced to endure Over the last twelve years which is how long it took them to put him in. Prison is absolutely a and I just. I can't believe it so I hope that you are successful now. Of course there's this argument that we see every time. President Trump pardons a military Member a warfighter That this is somehow undermining the military justice system. Can you speak to that absolutely? I think? president trump has been critical role. Any has a critical role to play in the justice system Especially in the military. He is the chief the head of the military branch. And if you look at the menu for Court Martial and expressly says that the president and the convenience dory which is the top of have to right to intervene in cases not the real trouble. Those regulations have been curtailed over time The National Defense Authorization Act but obviously the right to party cannot be in French and I. I think that a lot of commanders have an idea of what they want the military to be and you As a soldier as a call at Hong and their their machine They view any interdiction and their judgment to be a violation or infringement on the military and. I just don't believe that that is true. I think that if you look at what the president is done you look at what how to analyze these cases. He takes out specific ones where she sees injustice and he steps in and and and protects the soldiers from these policies from these roads barrels I think really. That's recruiter is when someone can step out and look at in case situation of injustice and regardless of what all the people around you were saying if you read the whole transcript read the appeal as you find that you know. Somebody got railroaded. You can still Scott Florida and say I'M GONNA take care of this person. I'm going to exonerate them and free them. Give them their life back That's that's hope to. All those were the frontlines shows soldiers that you know even if the against you somebody apply has your back step forward and get your life back. You talked to Lawrence if you talk to any of those more. Parts of the President May They have received emails and letters and just tons of support from people who worked in the service of people. Serve many many years before that whether it's Vietnam and Korea. Were working thing that they support it ever then. They're glad that the president step forward and show leadership to to give them a life back. I think so too last question. I interviewed an attorney named Joseph. Low the fourth. He's a former marine and he defended a lot of soldiers in the military criminal justice system including a soldier Who was involved in the Eddie Gallagher Case? Who was threatened by the prosecution And and told that if he didn't testify the way they wanted that That they would try to charge him. And of course Mr Low got this guy Free and clear of all this and when I interviewed him he said that a lot of this idea that it's fine to do. This is because of the culture of military leaders. In which soldiers are seen as expendable? He said that this has led to a system that is win at all costs. And you and I talked about that a little bit and you just kind of reference that but can you tell us a little bit more about that culture. I mean if you look in the task the military it was it was one of the family where the wellbeing and the family Atmosphere helped to build that lower lifted soldier up to be a leader and now it's twelve corporation It's looked at as a bottom line. Where the commanders and the top leaders are. The ones who are the valuable commodity right there. They can always get another soldier. That can always give them other private. We're going to be people who want to live out of college To be tenants and they can replace all those guys but to the of the people were hired food. Shame I think they're rain is supreme and the they make decisions and that people who are below them are for some reason can be cast away and then when when you look at the backdrop of you know favorable relationships with foreign governments when it comes to major policy decisions and command moves They're insufferable means. They have the task. The Raven two-three a group of guys in prison to have a favorable gross. It's Iraq Locker Eddie Gallagher up or Clinton Marantz Up to it justifies the means because they have solidified a relationship that will last them a decade fifteen twenty years versus the life of one special operations soldier or one. Sergeant First Class and that culture environment as permeated in those prosecutors. You like you know what am doing. What my commander truly want on putting someone away who don't want him quote their military and We have become an expendable commodity. And I hope and I pray that some disgusted we're taking more reverse. That trend will provide The protections for the people who are out of the frontlines defending our families and making sure that we have the right to protest and bear arms and live in a free society. It's just US theory of these individuals. Take just run over are very very well said well. Thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate it and appreciate everything that you're doing So I guess we'll we'll be watching. What U N representative Gohmert Do and wish you all the best absolutely..
"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
"Jurors Well he also gets off of their promotions whether he gets off on their duty. Assignments and that's system is not impartial in any way shape or form on civilian five. You have the ability to get someone from any walk of life who has no relation to Jus To no promotion tied up or no review By any of the people in that chain of command But in the military you're kind of setup and they system where everybody is tied to each other and now ask them to separate their rank their duty station and promotion and make a decision impact if the right of the the life of the accused but also their own trajectory their career and into really really Max air and you put the defendant or the accused of that position or the Tele members In the system is inherently flawed and there could be changes to correct the system. We now let's go back over that because I think a lot of people just like may don't really understand how the military criminal justice system from the civilian. Now you had you had expressed that The jury is picked in a different way. There's no oversight over the prosecutors and Met A lot of times the defense Attorneys aren't involved in the case from the very beginning. So can you kind of for people like me? Who didn't know this? Explain how the system works sure. Sure what's best initiative started? There's a allegation Any improper acts Criminal Investigations Division. A CIT. We'll go out in the best. They crown They primarily work with the prosecution They are like the left hand of the prosecution and they go out to the scene. They'll do they'll do forensics. And whatever and then a report to Commander Field As to what their recommendation is now. Obviously they work right and left hand with the prosecution. They're going to give reasons why prosecution should before there is no set. Investigation goes out to the scene to do site exploitation Who Does you know all the analysis and gives a report to commander why they should not afford? And I. I believe that? That is an inherent flaw with this. There should be Pros and cons to any choice. That a commander is going to make on the field. Celo civil are you going to lay strategic combat situation? You're going to grow than tons. So why should the military to be any different? Then you move from there. You can get a slaughtered buses report. The only gives reasons why you should move forward with an investigation that allows for sheer. Say or you know. Even a rounding charges that will never even be brought forward in a court martial to be written into a sworn statement by coke witness From Kinmen retracting time. You're not giving the commander of the proper tools to make an educated decision about whether something should go forward to a court martial whether investigations tenue That for me is getting a flaw. Cost US to command level. Once he moved past that initial battlefield commanders. Who MAKES RECOMMENDATION ALL RIGHT? I haven't formation from the other words maybe flawed but enough information to believe that something improper occurred And then you move forward take out of the field and use them back to where they have a general officer. Who's in charge of that post? That general also officer gets that a report from the and she has the judge advocate general now. That is a legal officer who advises them from a standpoint. There's supposed to be impartial. But both who found work again with the CI and they make another recommendation that something improper Kurt based on that initial report and they will sign off on a soldier having their their house rated for more potential evidence That soldier who was accused now being placed in pretrial confinement. Then they also have your authority and the duty actually to select juries a group of military members who will preside over that takes and then that same officer who advising general officer will also make a recommendation to the command back in the stakes of what to do with the soldier so now have more information going into that unit commander who was back in the states charge of you choose. Well now informed his lieutenant in lower Lower lesson about the potential charge that this person is facing now. All of that turns into central jury members right. Every officer and noncommissioned officer is in control witness against the accuse who is now receiving whether it's a flawed investigation report or accurate investigative. Report information about this case before the defense team had an opportunity to speak to the command. Ever had a chance to really intimately view or cross examine witnesses and managing happy narrative that being leaked out to any other potential jury member. Dasa and word of mouth Emails warning people about you know. Hey stay away from them. You know soldier x because he's accused of X Y and Z. It just creates a An atmosphere where you have to prove yourself innocent rather than the prosecution asking concert guilt. Gosh you're stuck. Yeah absolutely and as I have written many times about the case of Raven to three. There is a motive with prosecutors to win these cases and to bring high profile cases that They think is going to bring attention now with The civilian world. It's because mostly they want you know jobs in the private sector wet is it. I mean is there a similar motive in the military? Can you explain that? Yes was a similar and if you WANNA call over to the civilian world but there's also a highly competitive field of officers who want to get promoted. You WanNa be that advocate general and move forward with their career. So if you have kids. Come across her dusk of a soldier. Who's accused of ex wires? The and it's the difference between Jew having a Fame were the mother soldier to learn that for Promotion having a ninety eight percent conviction rate. Yep A soldier having a your sixteen percents. I'M GOING TO BE SELECTED FOR PROMOTION. So you have really created a atmosphere where the truth of the matter is is not really at the heart of the investigation it is the promotion rate and then the atmosphere of there's no punishment or doctors no matter how are they on your watch. Eddie Gallagher case for example the prosecutors putting militias lonzo emails. They monitor communications between the defense team. And Eddie Gallagher then were you never saw take place. You've never heard of that person being removed from you know. Try and settle a court. They were just simply transferred to someplace else. Continue that behavior and promoted so if you have no punish people violating the Rights Hughes. Well then it's a poodle funding promoted for continuing this data hager then it must be okay. I never heard that before. That is a crime. How did they how they get away with that? That's that's incredible. Yes so so basically when when you talk about the need for reforms when you're talking about some very specific things and that includes oversight tell me a what the other things you in and representative. Gohmert are working on things. Were working on China. Get SOLDIERS ACCESS OF SUPREME COURT In Ellen average military case a soldier does not have access to the Supreme Court in less The Court of Appeals on forces casts Grants Review and release in that case. And they record you and we're unreleased. Rv admitted that something was wrong. With the case it's the other ninety percent of the cases that are being rubber-stamped that the soldiers walk review they want the Supreme Court to look at the constitutional violation by by the military course that do processes were evidence. Collect the correct leaf or there was missed us by the prosecution whether it was Deliberate or accidental To look in their case so they can you get retiled or reset? Think receive some sort of released and on average. If you look at an American citizen they how dare not right for the Supreme Court if you look at the normal? Federal Appeals Court. They have a right to the Supreme Court. Illegal aliens coming across the border people who don't have five percentage six year. They have a right to claim court but our service numbers of people fighting for the constitution are having the same protection so we we are pretty far to build It will probably be in India. The National Defense Authorization Act to Get SOLDIERS Access to the Supreme Court get a guaranteed review So that they can have the exact same rights that American citizens enjoy. So that was one of our primary initiatives. We're also looking at time to Remove from that Unlawful Command influence. And and that even if it's the perception of it within that jury selection allowing either National Guard or reserve us who do not fall under the command structure of the general those two distant normally select The members of the panel as A jury so that our soldiers have a better chance at impartiality and even if they are convicted ultimately it will be an a clear and transparent way where you don't feel like the people who put on that panel have an obligation or feel pressure from the command for the next station for that Promotion Board for that review That will give our service members a little bit more Security and stability knowing that there's not that pressure on those guys to come in and kind of guilty So those are our primary initiatives. That's wonderful now. You and I talked about Some of the prosecutorial misconduct that has occurred occurred in both your case and in the case of Raven to three. I've counted six at least six Brady violations in which the prosecution hid evidence. Suborn perjury Bullied witnesses to change their testimony Threaten to put people in prison if they wouldn't charge them if they wouldn't testify the way that the prosecution wanted them to now some of these things occurring in your cases. Well can you talk about that a little? What needs to be done to rein some of these prosecutors in from doing this stuff because they obviously feel like this is absolutely okay. Okay I miss completely unacceptable. I mean they used tactics against Drug Cartels of people who are actively going out and trying to attack the American citizens and and do things just talking to the justice system but our soldiers are warriors were fighters are out there trying to send this country from foreign threats and when they threaten witnesses to change their story when also granted immunity under under. You know veiled threats of look you're gonNA with three or you can change your testimony so that it favours our theory of a taste rather than looking at the actual facts around the taste. That's an act honestly needs to be punished harshly. He's tactics about the US To change testimony so that favors the government they should certainly looking for the fact of the matter and analyzing what actually took place. In my case government failed to collect evidence that would have exonerated makes they didn't do any fingerprint analysis on my Levin. I told them that. The Taliban insurgents throughout my weapon and I fired a single when my other Soldier the a similar testimony. Look this he said the build a struggle for my weapon and I fired a single shot. They threatened with Potential Jo time is being an accessory to murder and unless he changed his story to reflect that there was no struggle. We were lucky enough to get his initial statement. You wrote but there was a struggle and I are going to. Struggle admitted to the jury. That still was not enough to exonerate already had a narrative and matter. How many times did their witness change? The story isn't my how many times you live under oath The jury found him to be credible on what he changed his story. To rather than what you said fifteen times prior and I think you see that in some of the Raven to three tastes when you look at some of the former statements that people testified against or a row against three guys and you look at some of their prior statements before you see and the investigators Threaten It's it's sucked and you. Can you believe it bringing me to have a review board for some of these cases that end up going to the congressional committee beat be put together to look at cases to analyze the prophet story of conduct and then they used to have guys who can just barred? They need to be you know. Prevent it for practicing federal courts There has to be some sort of mechanism. Where these prosecutors held accountable. Otherwise is concerned and they believe that these things are stationed and they can you do these. Not just the workload is but other Americans die. I know that once the American people understand the likes of they're going to treat our servicemembers like Cartels numbers are going to be appalled and there will be traffic..
"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
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"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
"Less than one mile away from Robbie's likeness in the Supreme Court Building Judge Ricardo or Venus sits in his chambers at the US District Court for the District of Columbia. It's New Year's Eve. Two thousand nine. A trial is set to begin in just one month for four military contractors accused of killing and wounding Iraqi civilians in Nisar Square in Baghdad. It's been two years since the investigation began into the conduct of Dustin. Heard Evan Liberty Paul Slough and Knicks Latin but judge Rabin as troubled by something about the case and he won't wait another month to set it straight nose DC well. He was a brilliant student attending Georgetown University. As an Undergrad and also for law school. He started his legal career in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy as a public defender in Washington. Dc THEN in March nineteen ninety four president. Bill Clinton nominated him to a seat on the District Court. The Senate confirmed him less than three months later. By all accounts Judger Beena has enjoyed a distinguished career in the two decades on the bench and recently has position has required him to decide on issues directly related to the United States war on terror just a year before the Raven to three case. Judge Urbina rendered a decision about seventeen Chinese Muslims who were detained in Guantanamo Bay Cuba for more than seven years as suspected terrorists the US justice department called the seventeen prisoners risk in wanted them held in Guantanamo indefinitely despite pressure from the Bush administration and its attorneys dodger Beena look to hobby and the US Constitution to inform his decision not politics or being ordered their release by that Friday DOJ objected vociferiously and demanded that the we remain imprisoned pending an appeal or being denied the motion. They waited long enough. He said the ruling went directly against the Bush White House. But it brought down the house so to speak. In URBINA S- court human rights advocates. An ethnic minority in China stood and cheered but then the prosecutor John. Quinn made a curious argument. One that is bone chilling in light of what later happened to Raven to three should be circumspect. Because of the potential for interference with Foreign Relations.
"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
"Showcasing on top of the book. So what does that mean near? Enemies from the government's they're finding AK forty seven and yet they deny it and tail reasons to certain times they hit you from all different five. Only remaining what they're saying. It's an old around other animals Russia. Well there you have it witness testimony about a gun battle and physical evidence that somebody was shooting the insurgents weapon of choice in Nisar Square. So how does this result in manslaughter or murder charges? We asked criminal defense lawyer. Joseph Low for some answers. Low is a former. Us Marine who defends servicemen and. Women accused of warcrimes. He is not involved in the Raven to three case but since his client was the only defendant to walk free in the Pendleton. Eight case and he represented the chief witness in the recent. Eddie Gallagher warcrimes trial. I figured he knew what he was talking about. He's also an instructor at the Academy in California. So you you have a client that comes in and says he's a soldier does just say soldier because look these guys were in a protective doing diplomat protection right keiser that they were came into art traffic circle right after a car bombing and they were supposed to clear out. This place called Nisar Square. They say that they were shot at. There's plenty of physical evidence that they were shot at and even though the government initially Said there were. There's no evidence they were shot at. They change their minds in two thousand seventeen and said that they were shot at so. What's your defense against manslaughter? And murder charges. What is a complete defense for manslaughter and murder charges in that situation? There's two defensive yourself defensive another or you can even say defensive property so if someone is shooting at you you can shoot back in kill them and be absolved of a conviction for murder because you defending yourself if they are shooting at one of your loved ones or one of your friends you can shoot back and kill them and being solved from that. Because you're descending another or they're coming in and shooting you WanNa steal your wallet you can shoot back and kill them in again The absolves of vertical fiction because you defending property. So it's pretty simple right yes on that same day A. US Army officer named colonel. David Bus Ligo told his men to Scour Nisar Square for evidence his men saw investigators picking up AK rounds at the treeline that Tommy Vargas mentioned in his Radio Calls. Remember too in the tree line but bustling. Oh testified it. All three trials that there was no evidence of an ambush. He admitted however that his Iraqi handlers wouldn't let him view the entire square and that they weren't looking for physical evidence anyway in the second trial bus Ligo actually admitted that he wasn't even in square when all this happened despite massive credibility issues. The government relied heavily on him during the trials. Here's an actor. Reading his testimony. I was only able to observe generally in the vicinity that we actually walked around with. General Hussein Al Wadi so I didn't go around the entire circle at that time there. Judicial System operate on confession based manner. That was all he cared about the idea of forensic evidence it. Sarah was something that the. Us forces was attempting to introduce to the Iraqi police in justice system but it was meeting with resistance. This is one of the many areas where people just scratched their heads and think we're back into conspiracy theories. Why would bus Lego Li- like that? And why did prosecutors rely on evidence that was so obviously tainted when they had clear evidence that the Raven to three convoy came under fire from enemy combatants will get into? Why later in this episode? Mike let's start with how how were American prosecutors able to ignore such overwhelming evidence of a gun battle? The answer? The man in charge of the investigation Colonel Karim declared upfront that there were no insurgents in Nisar Square but a helicopter crewman flying overhead saw something different gunmen dressed as Iraqi police. Just like the Raven to three men described. This is an actor reading helicopter. Crewman Timothy Spikes testimony in twenty fourteen. I did notice that several times. A blue shirted police officer would roll over the top of the haskell barrier cake shirt off drop his gun and walk away okay so you have insurgents dressed as Iraqi police on the scene tainted evidence lying witnesses and a complete defense against the charges. How could this case ever go to trial? What was the result? The government wanted. And why well Keith? George has an idea bat. He thought the reason for change in the investigation process with an Ambassador Ryan Crocker had taken over the US embassy in Baghdad of six months later and unlike his predecessor Crocker hadn't agenda to make it look like President Bush's surge was working and all of the reform actions taken to reform the Iraqi military and the Iraqi police working as well. Crocker apparently was willing to give away the farm.
"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
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"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
"There's not a lot I find that. At least some of them doing the right thing. The problem is once again as far as I'm concerned and and I'm no historical expert on four like that. I've been doing my own thing in the military. Have my own historical understanding of things and knowledge and stuff like that but there have been times when your ship was held responsible for doing something or disobeying worst and not the guys and James Watson with the leader and he took them to a place they should have never been in the first place now. Did the bad guys or Iraqi police over Iraqi army or whatever the hell that intersection decide to get them. I prompt there. No doubt my mind why you just saw a because they believe that the of the bid and they shot at it and blew it up in essence and maybe that incense some Iraqi policemen that in awesome mother with a gun in send somebody to start shooting at him and that starts the whole thing. That's my thoughts my beliefs. I want to believe that go because I I worked with. I took him out to some very bad. Very bad things happen to the so. There's no doubt in my mind. They they are generally uncensored game. And they're going to react and kind but never. It doesn't believe either fact me. James Watson disobeyed regular as Raven two-three limped into Patriot. Parking lot you pull us was stuck in the tactical operations center trying to defuse the standoff between the Iraqi army and Blackwater Tactical Support Team Raven to due to Raven to to had return Medina to the safety of the Greens. Old then went back out to help even to three extricate itself from Square Square. Suppose asked his boss Keith. George the Blackwater detail leader to deal with Watson while I'm I'm still trying to help the talk deal with the standoff. Ok Corral standoff happening in each square. I get on the phone call James Direct. I said standard team down in the parking lot. Don't go anywhere take them up. James Watson said Fuck you. I'm going to go out finding help people and I'm not you know I'm going to do what I need to do. So I call the deputy detail later and later and said Hey James Watson is refusing to stand down. Can you do out there and relieves him of duty Keith. George met the team at the parking lot. What he saw left him with no doubt that even to three had been in a firefight when their trucks came back into the patriots stationary? You could see the impacts all over the armored vehicles there was no doubt TJ hill. Oh the blackwater mechanic walked up to the vehicles short time later liberty was standing there looking at the steel doors of the bearcat. Here's what Tj saw me looking. We're all their trucks. And the first thing I noticed when I got there with Evan Liberty standing to the left side of the truck and he was looking for damage on the left side and then they brought me around to the right side. I believe and that's damage was and we made no no. No I think five offline packs truck.
"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
"The ones who gave families the money which is referred to in one cable That was my job as DCM. Yeah the compensation that we offered in that was in must've been to health and nine early two two thousand nine first half of two thousand so later when we hear from the US Department of Justice that seventeen were killed and thirty seven wounded. Where do those numbers come? I'm from the statements from both the Iraqi government the hospital and our own pressed. Don't support that. Both insurgents and Americans were shooting so so who killed those eight people. The Iraqi government said died in Nisar Square. There were no autopsies. No crime scene photos taken before the bodies and cars removed removed and no ballistics analysis. Now would be a good time to talk about. The chaos that was overtaking Iraq will become an almost total takeover of the Iraqi government by Iranian based malicious Rachid seen the protest now Iraq against Iranian interference something nothing has been a threat to Iraq's sovereignty long before the events of the source square but Iran was quite strategic to capitalize on the instability caused by the war in Iraq Iraq. They've infiltrated both Iraqi. Police and the Iraq military that is why trust among Iraqis in the Iraqi police and military three and sunk to historic lows but corruption have become so widespread that it gave birth to a new industry. Camouflage Taylor's operating doesn't do stores that occupy entire alleyways Baghdad. Camouflage Taylor's would sell an official Iraqi police or military uniform to anybody walk into their store regardless of whether or not they could provide identification thirty thousand dinars. Twenty five bucks anybody. It could buy one of these uniforms and impersonate Iraqi police officer or Iraqi soldier. The uniforms had become effectively meaningless. They were no good. Uh representing of the person wearing it supported the government or if they were an impostor trying to undermine so when you hear Iraqi police think potential Rainey's fi or jihadist as well now see whether it makes sense for rain backed militias to be investigating this incident incident. This infiltration by Iranian jihadists was well known to people fighting Iraq and it was clear that people following that world or at home. Here's what retired. US Army General. Barry McCaffrey wrote after visiting Iraq earlier that year these are McCaffrey's words you know. Iraqi government official coalition soldier diplomat reporter Foreign Ngo nor contractor can walk the the streets Baghdad without heavily armed protection now. This is somebody that was well acquainted with war's als. He fought in Vietnam Tom as well as the first Gulf War. It's also somebody who in earlier reports just a year before Saturday optimistic tone about the future of Iraq but in two thousand seven even this battle-tested American general did not feel safe walking the streets of Baghdad without armed protection. So who who was expected to provide this heavily armed protection blackwater. It is precisely what Paul Slough Ever Liberty Knicks Latin. Lighten and Dustin. Her did every day and it was the reason they were in the store square terrestial and employees who work for the State Department. There was plenty of grandstanding Washington about blackwater. They were demonized. They were vilified characterizes trigger-happy yet when American politicians and government officials went to Iraq. They went knowing that they were being protected by Blackwater. These are the people that so many people myself included dismissed mercenaries. The reality was much different. They were men who took the most dangerous job in the most dangerous city on the planet to protect people. We won't recite site the list of folks but it spanned from President. George Bush his Vice President Cheney to President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden Vice President Biden's hypocritical stance on Blackwater so outrageous. We're going to dedicate entire episode to it next week for now we're going to return. Turn the situation in the source square in two thousand seven at the time Iranian backed militias like the Mahdi Army and the batter core and successfully usually infiltrated the police army again. We'll talk about the Mahdi Army in the battle for future episodes for now realized that can be hard to keep the combatants batons in their goal. Straight South I asked my friend and fog Kambar. If you could clear it out for me and edify grew up in Iraq and has championed democracy throughout his life. He's got the scars to prove it. He was unlawfully imprisoned tortured under Saddam Hussein. He's witnessed the deaths of family and friends who joined him in the fight for free and independent Iraq. He's not just a warrior. It's also super smart art. He has two different masters degrees in engineering. From Georgia Tech was not only the director of the Iraqi National Congress during is exiled Washington. DC between nineteen ninety. Two thousand three. He also advised the Bush administration and the new Iraqi government about how to foster democracy in Iraq. You're giving g nice and Brown truth about the situation in Iraq in two thousand seven and other than you you specificity and may on melt it no one four thousand four or maybe had they just go back they did not fi they join them and in fact they took over the informed and they joined the backyard so out how do they influence. You Bet you bet they're interesting. You know something you should know. I think. Be On ninety or C. I can't remember off the Iraqi constitution. Would you whether she says. There's no more no measures and they they put this article so they they call with the on the phone or court is the police and army. They they became West Bend. What's concert that's just India? Like you on me and I keep telling and and this is just so. That's clear sentence for the podcast and everything else. But but service service in a jihadist group dedicated to killing Iraqi's that counted as service to the Iraqi government yes. They began journal Iraqi. Oh my God he gets generalize. We speak no and not just the Iraqi government who overlooked the involvement of Iranian terrorists with the Iraqi police. As we'll see later on you WanNa Raqi. Police officer with spectrum ties to the batter core got special treatment from the United States government. They called upon him to play a key role as their star witness against Blackwater before we get there. Let's finish up this episode about Misora Square and its aftermath. We'll probably really never know the exact number of people who died that day. There's no doubt that innocent people were killed. Fortunately they were not viewed as a statistic or written off as collateral damage like hundreds of thousands of other Iraqis died the war of the century. Now at least a few of these people got the dignity of UH having an individual names mentioned we got to read about their lives and their careers. We heard their stories and we at least got to experience a tiny fraction of the brief that their fathers mothers brothers and sisters who were left behind had to deal with as they tried to pick up the pieces top rating and M H angry source. Where should have been a galvanizing moment? These Dayton's deserve justice. If families created the opposite they didn't know it but they're about to be exploited and used because because there was a movement afoot to cover up. What really happened that day? But within weeks of the shootings the legend and and losses of Nisar Square were growing a narrative took shape within the US government in response to Iraq's justifiable and mounting anger at the a never ending carnage. The story took on a life of its own so much so that one evening a. US Army investigator approach. Tommy Vargas in the Green Leans Zone. He pressed thumb drive into Vargas. Hand his name was Chris Guerrero and he seems to pop up whenever Blackwater Contractors. I got involved in a firefight but he approached me one night and two thousand seven and he gave me a dumb drive. He gave tape drive and he told me he gave me instruction he said. Listen Tommy my friend. I've met you out here in Iraq. He's and he told me he's got a pretty solid. Do but I thought at first I thought the guy was whatever joking and he he gives me the drive. It says whatever you do. Don't open it and country. Don't review the files on your computer and country. You know when you get home take a look at it but I want you to hold onto were because I got a feeling excuse my language. I think they're trying to fuck.
"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
"Randall. Hurt sounds from the other. Turret Right Gunner Ridgway. When you hear Mr Ridgway shooting down to the south any idea of what the volume of this fire was the whole time and we were there? It was a good amount. And you just give us an estimate of how many rounds you think Mr Ridgway fired that day very rough. It's very rough five hundred hundred plus in fact. That would not be the last time that someone noticed Jeremy Ridgeway firing wildly that that day. Here's Tommy Vargas again talking about a second disturbing incident involving ridgway's controlled firing of his MTA. Forty machine-gun I could see rows attacking the ground just missing the truck. You Know Dustin even by fire back because he could identify a target and as relieving we our Our team got caught until a budget traffic and we started. I don't say crush where we started. Vehicles one vehicle go off to the left of the follow vehicle pinned against t-ball and our vehicle any shine Louvre and died because it's up view vehicle. It's me it's made for that you know for urban jungle mountainous type environments so it was moving. I sit here from bathroom. The guy's car like literally. I feel bathroom scar because he and bounce around vehicle because he has sunroof journalist dump around the tall and move around and and from the driver's seat and I saw him around I I I I thought maybe he stayed in fired from someone else. Because I didn't think January the career and all this is happening less than seventy seconds into decision like what the fuck is going on. And then I realized that journey Ridgway's race is fucking guy so you'll see fun fired. The cease fire. And then I look at the guy that can make glasses right here in my window. Your real snuggled against it magazine. Pick wanted a jaw. Pretty much took his jaw off and then took the head back to the middle of the face a couple more than chess stomach and his legs national originally a second time go back. I'm sorry for cursing Bah fire or do one thing and all I was pissed is back at the guy and he's fucking dead. I don't WanNa see pieces by his by the close raining to forty seven point sixty millimeter. You must have twenty twenty times probably more and it was like two five trial testimony would show that Jeremy Ridgeway shot into three separate cars on his way. Out of this source where. The convoy linked back to the Green Zone through heavy. Traffic took another twenty minutes and they reported taking small arms fire along the way by the time they reach the Patriot. Parking lot nate poulos shift leader Blackwater Tactical Operation Operation Center. was there to meet him. He was furious with Watson for departing checked like twelve without permission. If Watson did not unilaterally make the call but he did the incident may have been avoided. This is another critical factor. Remember when we get into the trial Pelos immediately relieve Watson one of his weapons while the rest of the team took stock of their vehicles and each other. They're bullet strikes a dozen or so on the door of the commander Mandy ICAL and a couple of fourth. The one vargas and his men were writing. Only one team member had injury. was't later told the court I believe. Dustin heard had some burns on his arms agricole tops of his arms. Being burned fairly decently principal. Oh Rudeina Fata returned to the green zone safely Raven Tutu was in a standoff in a source where with the Iraqi Army uh the team had gone out to rescue even to three and got held up the US army diffuse the situation as officers from nearby forward operating base prosperity already arrived at the scene to take stock of the damage. The State Department soon learned of the skirmish and summoned Raven to three to his offices. They wanted to make statements in our later Mike. It's hard to believe that. This incident didn't stick out in their minds but when I interviewed Dustin Heard Paul Slough Oh Evan Liberty and Knicks Latin in prison. They described Nisar Square as a typical day in Baghdad. Part of the reason for that can be found in this New York Times article written from Baghdad on the day of the attack by reporter. Sabrina Taverny say pay special attention to the body count. And who's giving it. The Iraqi government said Monday that it had revoked the license of Blackwater USA a private security company that provides protection for top. American officials shows on Iraq after shots fired from American diplomatic convoy.
"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
"Here's what the DOJ lawyer dimitre tre lambros told the appellate court in Washington DC on January seventeen twenty seventeen. She's describing the trial testimony of Raven two-three retain leader Jimmy Watson who you'll hear from in this episode Lambros tells the court quote what he thought he heard was enemy fire. He's he's very clear about it. Those first shots did not come from the convoy. He said what he heard. I sounded like Iraqi. AK47 fire fire in the distance. Now He reiterates up until that point no one from Raven two three had fired. He repeats it again. Nobody's firing when he hears. Here's those shots so there you have it two years after it. Convicted Dustin Heard Evan Liberty Knicks Latin and Paul Slough for committing an unprovoked massacre massacre against unarmed civilians. The government formally and publicly repudiated. Its own theory in open court. So we're going to go with the government's theory for our recreation of these crucial events. Mike and my fellow lives. I get it three years ago when someone asked me to look into this case I said no way okay and then I actually read the trial transcript and I thought to myself selfishly. If this could happen to these guys it can happen to me. Uh Gene. I felt the same way. It's like that line. Just Hella Road in catch twenty two. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you when you first told me about this. I thought that you were trafficking conspiracy theories when he gets everything I read about black water in the source square after looking at the testimony and reading eyewitness accounts and actually getting into the events of that day who are. I couldn't believe that was so easily duped. Not just by the government in the alternate history. They created also by the willing press. Who was all too eager to support them and report on the trial without challenging any of the assumptions or going back and even reading they written about the days of that event themselves paraphrase war? Well the Department of Justice or race the Truth About Dustin Austin heard at an Liberty Paul Slough Index Latin the ratio was forgotten and the lie about these men and the events of more square became the truth. That's my today's episode. We're GONNA talk about facts not feelings. We're recreating the events of square with evidence from the government's investigation and this recreation atrophied sworn testimony from three different front raven to three trials member. That's how many tries. It took the Department of Justice. I guess convicting innocent man lease still requires sometime dedication before I completely get submitted to.
"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
"The following podcast contains graphic language and descriptions of violence that may be disturbing to some listeners. They say war is hell all. That may be a cliche but it's not an exaggeration that became clear to me in the conversations I had with. Tommy Vargas Eddie Randall. And the other veterans veterans who. You're about to hear I. I want to repeat the warning I just gave you. This episode contains graphic and heartbreaking descriptions of violence silence second the military trains at soldiers to recount the details of battle in a clinical and detached fashion. But don't confuse these stark descriptions descriptions with indifference all the veterans. I spoke with for this podcast struggle daily with the fact that they had to take lives even when it was someone who was trying in to kill them. It's not a job that they relish and when they discover that innocent lives were lost in a skirmish the nightmares increase exponentially. Tommy and Eddie and everybody. I spoke with views. Each life lost as a human soul equal to there's regardless of religion or nationality in fact fact they risked their lives to protect the lives in liberty of Iraqis to give them a real chance to pursue happiness while Tommy and Eddie and the other veterans struggle struggle with horrific memories of war. We all sleep more peacefully because their sacrifice saved us from being put in the same no win situation so remember a the words of Atticus finch. Don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes Think again horrific way to tell this story your whitewashing the truth both war. Criminals are cool. Now I guess whitewashing a horrific lives in more low. Listen supporting war valleys this complete and utter garbage Mica Writer. Michael Flaherty and I got some feedback for this podcast as expected from my side of the aisle with my fellow liberals accusing me of trying to whitewash a massacre so this is an appropriate time to talk about massacres is is it. A massacre when civilians are caught in the crossfire of a gunbattle because again. That's what Mr Square was. It's not knee concluding that. It's the government's saying that the Raven two-three convoy was shot at multiple times by enemy insurgents. Before any of the private military contractors fired their weapons. My name is Gina Keating. I'm an investigative journalist and this is Raven to three presumption of guilt..
"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
"Bus and they had right away and so when you saw awesome coming down the street they were extremely intimidating. I think partly by intent security reasons so They just added an air of abnormality to To the traffic and then the standard procedure and this is not black. Waterson playing in the middle of this is what the state urban diplomatic security like. Never get a change. They wanted us to go to these. You know very visible conflicts And and they would just beep at honk and maybe they literally. GM people in the road to get him out of the way. I don't I mean it wasn't keen to ram but They would just make life miserable for your regular Iraqi driver. You'd have to like get over. Get Out of the way. We zoomed through so so it was exceptionally disruptive and that had been going on long before this the source square incident. So I cannot. I can't say that we were particularly popular As with our military forces in our black water and all in two thousand six the Bush administration admitted that its policy in Iraq was failing. The country was slipping civil war. There was a lot of talk about whether sending more more troops to tamp down the violence and make Raqi hatred of Americans worse but in the end President George W Bush decided to send a surge of twenty thousand more troops to Iraq at a last ditch bid to get the country under control to get an idea of what the situation was like on the ground. We spoke to Eric. Parker Eric is what you would call a total ass. Kicker he served in the. US Army special ops and he was a member of Black Honors Raven twenty two tactical support team. This is how Eric described. It was like to be in frontline's Baghdad. Two thousand seven was very very hard year. I mean it started out hard From January twenty third two thousand awesome Sabbath lost five guys from an attack on the venue and You know a little bird helicopter was shot down to where we had to go out. Search for. Those guys is a recovery. There remains where we've got ambushed Did there Right after that. The Central Railroad Got Hit it on then you would Complex tack to where one of our guys ended up being shot a fifty cal hit through all awesome. Wouldn't you adapted which luckily he made a recovery. Even just the the week meeting up to September sixteenth I mean September Nights Adamant City all on the City Hall. got hit were grenade was thrown over which started up a fight where all the TNC teams were having to push out and they actually locked down a traffic circle down there so the team through the X.. Fill a couple of days later. Oh well. The tactical sportifs got hit with the The F. P. explosively formed projectile. which basically there's not much that can stop become molten? Think about a molten lava bullet. That will go right through six inches. which is a skill to one of their views in which we had two roles a sport in which there's ended up in a firefight ups and there were a lot of the things that were going on adding to the chaos was the fact that it was impossible to tell Iraqi police from insurgents dresses addresses Iraqi? Police here's Robert Ford talking about the confusion. That situation created Iraqi uniform on a black park back isn't it gets into your corruption issue. So we're they're insurgents dressed as Iraqi police absolutely but I am very hard pressed to pick an occasion. We have Iraqi police themselves. Fire on Americans in two thousand seven hundred seventy two thousand eight boy. I can't think of it. I doubt I would remember because that would have really changed the way we had eh. So Jeanette doesn't take logged review. The events of two thousand seven to realize that Baghdad was a terrifying place in fact it was the most dangerous city on earth. Here's here's Robert Forty again describing the collision course that the US. The Iraqi government Iran as the bloody fall of two thousand seven approached will close out with these words from passenger Ford until our next episode. I think this is an important context to understand the American forces both Me Less military predominantly. US military but like this square incident. We killed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds congress of Iraqi civilians over the years. And Iraqis aren't stupid. I mean they knew this and It was done with a sort of unity in a place that you know family is a huge huge deal in the United States. We have here in. The United States is sort. SORTA individual you know self fulfillment and self expression. We'll have that an Iraqi culture you know you're part of the family and you do. The family expects tries so I mean this was a hugely sensitive issue the way the American Reacted armed armed American reacted with Iraqis. So there's that and I don't blame Blackwater for that but it's context that had grenade baited than the situation with the disorder square sort of like all this headed up. disatisfaction erupted UH Raven. Two three is a production of think against studios. It's written by Gina. Keating eating and Mike Flaherty our producer Ashton Smith Gina Keating and Mike flaherty executive producers of Tiling Lindsey fellows and Valerie McGowan Mitchell wind. Bum edited this episode. And he also serves as our associate producer. Along with Kyle Hartford in Tina graph. Lindsey fellows Aaron Fuller and supervised the music art theme song is performed by Khloe Caroline. Thanks to Antonio corkery for their kindness and generosity. Finally we owe a debt to our men and women in uniform warm. Thank you for defending our freedoms that strangers may one day. 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"raven" Discussed on Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt
"Own brand of diplomacy to trade his pocket knife or a Russian soldiers Beret Okay and metals. He used his Texas Spanish to talk to Portuguese troops who are sweeping for mines around the village but the communication he enjoyed most was visiting schools schools with his unit. He had his mother son pencils pens and Candy and care packages so he could give them out to the kids at the time. We're still attacking there was even some in-fighting as far as water in resources and stuff was kinda limited as far as trinity and watered word and so there was even just day to day stuff that we would go with our lieutenant and other folks that were there to make decisions and try to help really just in logistics and to see these people perceive fresh water and food and medicine and get the hang out with Kiddos in the school. ooh That was. That was always a highlight Evan. Liberty was cleaning his room at the Marine Corps barracks. When word ran through Camp Lejeune? The plane had hit the World Trade Center. He didn't think much of it. He assumed it was a small plane and an accident. He kept on task when the second plane lean hit. He ran to a friends room to watch the news and saw the first tower fall to the ground. In that moment. I knew that our lives are going to change specifically life of people in in the armed forces so as soon as it happened we went on high alert. We have to pull extra duty and secure the base but my thoughts were really drawn to what why you would be hacked to do so going going into the Marine Corps. I I always knew that going to combat was a possibility but it. It wasn't something that was always on my mind because there was no coughlin off. What's going on or one nine? Eleven happened Going to call that a reality. Most people wouldn't take a sixteen eighteen year old kids seriously when he insisted on making that kind of commitment. That would've been mistake with Evan. Liberty here are Evans parents. Brian and indeed liberty totally by surprise I but he would gasoline go to college like his brother was planning on doing and I didn't even know he had and Chris had climbed to the recruiter and I do remember at one point one. You know we realized what was going and went on tonight. We're like we need to go down and talk to the staff and Cooper and make sure that the things that avenue counting on exactly how it's GonNa be. I thought it was a good idea. Even though he was very Structured person that you little old man man. He was a young boy. Both of my sons are like that. They never got in trouble like I said what they were there all man. They made their own decisions. And that's never wanted to you evan. And his best friend Crispus. Low Vich were basketball stars in their hometown of Rochester New Hampshire they had other prospects but the two friends both high achievers dreamed of challenge and service one name. I mean I mean when I also and one of my current my hometown and I remember my name on on and even though it was my birthday and being what day was on when we were in your home on the watermelon for my name in the two friends went off to boot camp together but ended up on opposite coasts. Chris went to Camp Pendleton in California and Evan to Camp Lejeune. They kept in touch through emails and phone calls. Chris was not surprised when Evan landed a spot. In the selective marine security regards school he pursued heavily to go into marine security guards school so he was accepted into that program Very early on So that just again part of who he is he wants to do more and being you know. MSG He do to your guarding the embassies. You're you're there to protect people I roam. I'm from new thousand two thousand. Three's own there when the Iraq happened and and we had a higher threat level because of that and we had a lot of protests and demonstrations in front of the United States. We're on hi. AH LEARN THE LION. The Iro on the Second Marine Division Evans Unit was on high alert for months but he never deployed deployed to a combat zone. He was at his post guarding the embassy when the US invaded Iraq on March twentieth. Two thousand. Three what do you remember about the fall of Baghdad. Dead Mike I remember watching on CNN with a sick feeling in my stomach the next day like a good liberal. I went out and bought solar panels for my house in a feeble protest against war profiteering. I just didn't think we were ready. And I knew the war was going to be a disaster. I was actually excited and hopeful and emotional. It was something to see those troops together with those Iraqi citizens citizens toppling that statue of Saddam. I was also a little naive because I didn't know how quickly things would get politicized and this this entire war would become about. weapons of mass destruction rather than we just gotten rid of the murderous dictator. How do we make? I'm sure that we can bring democracy to these folks so that they can live free and democratic life that they deserve but there was one man who had been watching the whole whole show from the sidelines and he knew exactly what was about to happen he knew exactly how unprepared the United States armed forces were for the fight that lay before for them and he was ready to step into the breach and make a fortune. That man's name was Eric. Dean prints one of the most necessary yet. Vilified men in America Raven two three is a production of against studios. It's written by Gina. Keating and Mike flared our producers are Ashton Smith Gina Keating Mike flaherty executive producers of Tiling Lindsey fellows and Valerie McGowan. Mitchell wind edited this episode. And he also serves as our associate producer along with Kyle Hartford and Tina graph. Lindsey fellows Erin full and supervised the music. Our theme Song Song is performed by Khloe Caroline. 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