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Gab and Juls: El Clasico's Tale Of Two Halves

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Gab and Juls: El Clasico's Tale Of Two Halves

"Yeah so I'm going to describe the team Julian Lauren's sitting there holding his. Espn branded basketball. This guy this guy is all in on his hoops. He loves his HOOPS. We're not here to talk about that. It's a Gavin Jewish. Oh we've got an action packed weekend so happening obviously Starting with the classic. Oh touching upon binding Hof and we even have mark Ogden here to brighten the mood person in person show. Let's get this show on the road. The biggest game in in football. We're all right and it was a classical and we saw that. I tweeted this out to the ad for your friend. I would pass a Turkish doctor who does hair transplant to. Who Buys pitchside advertising During the classical maybe more publicity even so I wanted to leave listening millions. Yes at some point soon because our producer Freddy got married and I think that would make very good wedding gift for him. Don't you needs needs a bit of attention to his all right enough. Nonsense and small talkers. Enough of that on other podcasts. Let's get stuck in with sade low. I said Rao Madrid win to now first. Half I thought Barscelona created the better chances without necessarily impressing me then in the end if I were if I were UBER. Kuei which I am not You could say well. The difference was a deflected. Venetia shot on Casimiro scoring and bar in garbage time so it doesn't really count and in fact these two teams are level. Are they. Well I I got bumped. Did you happen to take down the number of this slide advertising because I quite fancy given what actually say hindsight never mind Freddy the producer over? This said. Sorry on on this point. I'm just curious about this. People told me I genuinely don't know the because they have electronic pete side advertising they. Yeah I was able to see it and because obviously I think this might be targeted advertising. Well you were there. Did you not notice it on now on university during a match? You try not everything. A concert didn't is that now did particularly I do? Sometimes I remember years ago then going on about how it was coming which spirit walls. And it's pretty bad that we don't name anyway and he said the beer of La Lebron. Yeah the beard. I league that you're not allowed to drink in the league stadiums anyway but no. I didn't know what you're saying. So maybe it was targeted just view. Maybe it was only being into the living room. Maybe there's a message death some way. Just think how awesome would that be? I would feel special the game and yeah like me about the game. Yeah if the goal garbage time goal that ultimately we hear those people just reduce everything down to moments and incidents in episodes. You would see three excellent chances while two of them. So three squandered by Barcelona in the first half you would see that Venetia goal with a big deflection off peak which I think their stake in otherwise had and it WanNa see my Yano scoring and garbage time so you might conclude well. Hey this is pretty. Even right yeah. That's stupid interpretation because I think it's a stupid interpretation. I don't think it's entirely stupid. And I'm going to explain why they taught because obviously and we've said this a million times and this has been proven particularly by Madrid over last nine seven or eight years particularly in Europe. The key decisive moments can change game in Incan. Define a game in a way that the game itself hasn't been fired. You know it can be played in one way but one in a different way and we've seen low two times and that's nothing new so on that level. Yes you can. You can reduce it to that and say okay. Let's look at the moments that actually did by greatly kind of condition the school board. And those are those moments but I also think you can take those moments and reach the conclusion you've reached because I think if you unpack the rest of the game you can also get to. That conclusion can get to the conclusion. Where you've got a half each for the teams. You can reach the conclusion where you say in terms of what they genuinely created. They create similar amounts of opportunism improper opportunities. Not just wherever they would take it and I think as well you can look at it in terms of very contrasting ideas of what is that trying to do and say that they were both sort of successful up to a point now of course the success is the final score is but I think if you look at it in terms of what you generate during the game what you create. How much control you believe you've got. I think you can argue that. This is so usual cliche. The gaming halls. Okay I I take your point I might turn it around a little bit and say both teams effectively We see them so often playing for three three and they both effectively played an extra midfielder Yeah you guys up front. Obviously on the one hand it's missing agreement on the other hand it's finishes and And Benza to me. The difference was that in in the first half when Barcelona where we're in the ascendancy although I don't think it was an enormous gap between the two I think a lot of it you know. I think looks like they're more in control because they have a lot of the ball But then felt as if Pennsylvania. She's really were isolated. But then after the break crack my from wrong I thought. Ramadad switched it around and thought Venus and Ben's were and it looked like the move the team center of gravity up the Patriots and it became actually more different high priced higher. Yeah and they made it very difficult for for for for Barcelona go? Yeah of course but again you can still go back and unpack it so you can go back and say look bathrooms. Clear policy has been with set the building towards something whether or not he'll get nearer causes is another issue. But there's a there's a very clear identity which is we keep possession. We take this thing out the game. We play in a way that I'm doing the speech. Mark thing we my fingers now even though you can't see it this this intelligence that lives controlling air quotes that these that was cool air quotes. Thank you very much. I'm doing. The air quotes now. And you could say an. I must've been all the way through the first off. I felt like inside the statement. I think we should probably talk. A little bit about stadiums reaction the reaction of reflect the kind of the context in which this is all played the stage direction. The first off was one of poof. This is just inevitable at some point. We'll get the chance that they'll take and then ends and that first half. Yeah Yeah really do and I felt I don't know about you. I felt like an I wrote this line but I think it might. I think in the end of my lost in the in the cussing but it felt like a Rhonda to know where a lot of the time they were playing playing playing. They've got the pitch come back again. The pitch come back again and thinking that just playing for the sake of control. Playing the long game and sets you had hinted at this beforehand. He'd said we won't position he also said Madrid under more pressure than us. And you've got this very distinct feeling that having watched the city game because of course he met while the owner off that game and they spoke about any admittedly spoke about some of the things that could maybe apply that city had done. I think he felt he was playing the long game. Which is we get control. They're nervous they're under pressure at some point and they'll be forced out and then we catch them and we have got on that side. Of course. That's that's completely the wrong reading of as it turned out time suited and by not killing them off by not taking the opportunities they had. They gave me the chance to to react but within that kind of if you like endless realm no of possession the fussell they did in fairness them create three absolutely clear-cut chances and get them pressure at all watching on TV that the stadium was fearful genuinely every but Boston had the day whistled and they whistled and it was based on. You know we'll get let's get. Let's get this ball off them. Let's we need to react here and there was no reaction which is wise. You say because exactly what happened. Artem saying Sets Zoo Dan. City take a step up. Go impress them. High Going Rob Ball. Don't allow them to just bring it out comfortably and and emotionally a winter. Stegar makes that save from SCO which is what fifty six something like that around about that when he makes that save and this is obviously the this is an emotive response from me and this is a this is a kind of an interpretive response. Inside the stadium everything changed. There was this big rule. There was just like yeah here. We go this can be done from that moment. On Madrid came out and it wouldn't necessarily play we've brightens without was the right thing to do but play with Kandahar of Har- an energy and legs in aggression ambassador for twenty five minutes or so maybe even the whole of the second half just did not have to live. It said this. He said we've lost control. We lost the ball. We didn't know what to do. We were I just I think at that point. Just push them aside Jewish so interesting how you experience a game show differently on television one million on that front. Yeah I I've I've said I was a bit like in front of the TV. I didn't feel like the stadium was was fearful and and really was anyway editor on. You're probably right but I mean let's not forget that it was it's been a long time since remedied be buffalo now at the Bernabeu. So in a way if you will find and you've been there and you've seen it before you feel like okay. This is a this is like the last four years or five years or wherever it was last exactly it. That's exactly the context. In which will this happens. However I still cannot understand how a midfield of our to boost kids and young con beat the press in the second half and can crumble so much I mean Bruce Katz for me an steady last year and I go ago slaughtered on social media but for me bousquet is gone. Brusca is gone. Brusca cannot play in a game against the team. I took him the second half against any team. That will pull off pressure on him. I think he will always struggle now and I think he sees the game he ahead of everyone but still half a second slower than used to and I think in a game like second half I think such an should have changed something far earlier than indeed with breath. Wade as you said you changes here because obviously you've got along Sunny Braithwaite. I think something like your your bff of for people to to your Spanish but it struck me that exhibit on is if you're being pressed and being pressed and you're struggling to get out and I know Barcelona don't like to do it but they have done in the past with pet the out ball to somebody to talk to somebody somebody. Pacey or somebody who can run with it from the back is just always an option and except for the odd by occasionally so. I thought that all right. It's not something that they were able to do. I mean is this really where maybe he should have thought of putting in Rather than your friend Raceway Maybe answer fattier or somebody who? Who's God's those legs who can do that because let's face it grease man? I don't know if he woke up on the wrong side of the bed but he was terrible. I saw and messy really had an off night as well. Yeah I think I think. Let me let me pick on your premise. A little bit. Which is the I think. The outboard is really really important. And I think I think one of the things that the coaches even at junior level will insist on now is this idea of beaten oppression. You can beat the press through round or over and obviously over has to be an option however however committed you ought to keep the ball over has to be an option and if it's played well then over can be a very good option and of course this is particularly wet. A second comes in one of the things may seem to do last night which I think Madrid didn't didn't do invite which would depress segment bring them right on top of them and then go over so now it's curious because they don't like living with the press but they sort of wanted at least they wanted to be able to ping that ball over to the man now. The thing was the reason why I say. I want to take your premise. A little bit is because I think the focus from Boston isn't the pinball for the man running through because to be honest however quick you all wherever breakway. All Fatty all denver lay from when he ever becomes face the wherever. It's one of those. It's not really the ball through the gap to run onto the is the is the out bowl because obviously particularly relevant brands will be she to it because incredibly quick. It's more the boards. The player that can win it. I've Ronnie's Chester in the air. Bring it down and then play from there having broken that first wave of pressure. Which of course is what Luis Suarez does and without loose worth. They've got nut literally no one who can do this. So they don't have the outboard which is part of the reason. Why bizarre it seems. We're seeing our to dial plan slightly high right sided position. Why because he's the one and only player that the coaching staff believed that ball to the he will bring it down that he will maybe win in the House got the aggression because if you play a long pinball degrees man forget it if you play Messi forget it so you've got to play it to someone who has the capacity to bring it down and Boston and frankly don't have that player they also in the absence of them but I don't really have the player the runs in Spicer. You've mentioned party and I think there is an element of truth for nothing. He suddenly can do a bit of that. I think in Pau when you look at changes. I think they have to be seen impala at least in context of how little there was on the bench to make the changes and Braithwaite comes on media goes past. I think he's Marcello and I think here we go now this cutting edge. That wasn't there the first off. But it's not. I don't think it's really about the outboard because I think that out ball doesn't have a target because without risk there is no one's aim at five point on on individuals you mentioned. I mean on the Rama Rao Madrid and I thought was was pretty monstrous in this case when we reminds us how we often leave him out of the conversation of the top three or top five in the world. Maybe because some people don't even think he's number one around Madrid among centreback spite. Man The guy is the guy's totally agree Easter Easter in fairness before this last season. He was disastrous. And I'm not sure whoever it was a post World Cup thing or what it was but it was awful but but this year he really does it very very good one of the things about his speed and his ability to recover. It seems so effortless. He doesn't seem to need to. He doesn't go in for the epic. It doesn't go in for the heroic. He just does it. Move out without having to be flying over the place. He's he's the he's the opposite of Stephanie Ramos. Yeah he's he's so much under control right after you looked at but I obviously made a difference in the practical. Use Them Against City but final point on this. I was Kinda surprised that for Was was left out for For Marcello I thought Marcella had an up and down game. I thought that when he went and he caught up with messy sometimes bring special but based is to the left. Hand side right. That's the whole idea. Is the muscle always going to be more attacking the Mendi or do Mendis? Mendy can do both good. Mosleh will especially talk more. And that's why you saw you saw lowest back three times and you saw it off of Madrid talking on the left hand side with Vinicius and Marcello had both of them be more clinical and the and the crosses on their policies or the the decision making you could think Katrina especially if initially this is the other thing I also have a very brief point and then let's pick up. You're talking about that first. Half where think felt like Bosnia were were absolutely superior and creative free really good chances but everytime Madrid they did it with an incision and intend that battle and didn't have the problem was as you just mentioned. This is decision making and there was this sense that I just not going to happen. And then of course eventually did as you say you surprised. Everyone was surprised everyone was surprised about this. But then you back off from it and it's juicy saying about overloading left. Hand side is about putting pressure on Barcelona there. But I also think there's another thing it's I think about realizing that Boston are going to go for possession. They're going to go for possession. We've a certain degree of caution which they did. A lot of that position is set at. It was where it was playing playing comeback. Go for combat. Turn around but no one really gun bill. Also if you have a defender who is exposed when someone runs into the spice behind him but you think the team is gonNA play without that player that runs spice behind him and he's don't expose them. We complain because they haven't gotten that run and until bright flight came on bus already. Didn't have that runner at all. So maybe he felt. This is not such a risk and as you say that the tackler messy. I think when you see the way that Marcello responds I think that tells you everything about the kind of pressure that he's been under because he was celebrating not scoring a goal which we would expect from the more gripe is skill but doing some defending and I think that was really really symbolic way. He celebrate that look I can defend two against messy I. Where are we now in the in terms of letting title race I I had Madrid winning it beforehand. We talked about it. I'm assuming sweet about I would win the league. That's why I didn't I said Raw Madrid. You saw yes. I'm sure you can go back go back. Gills. I'm just saying I think we all said Madrid. Get I was not sure about you. So now we were even more on the Round Madrid bandwagon. Yes so well of course we are. Yeah and we are. We always in agreement here that the students are not very good right. It was a good game I thought. But they're not. I mean not so so few people saying this is maybe the worst boss team we've had in years maybe even the worst remedied him. We've had in years. Yeah go ahead. I'm going to say did you hit what? Pk set off the game. Yeah you're running with no special before the game so maybe it was a bit of an answer to that but I mean I think I think actually what I was saying was was kind of quiet. Honest in the in the first half. I felt that the feelings that were being transmitted by round. We weren't good at all that they didn't feel like they were good side. I felt like they were the worst remedy. Decide I've seen for a long time coming here and I don't think this was a dig. I really don't because because of course what he was really saying was. He was talking about his disappointment at their own failure. And so I've seen a lot of people respond to them say well. If we're all Magenta bad how what you know. How do you so you know? That's exactly the point. He's making exactly. The point is making us look even in a position where we're where we're confronted by this team who I felt wolf. They're there for the taking. We could really damage them here and we didn't do it so that criticism that he makes jude while while yet it's a bit out of place and yes. It's not the kind of thing. Football is normally say about you as a journalist at least I celebrate the fact that something fabulous don't normally say it's much better that way round but I think the point he was really making. Was We wasted this? We are not that good at the opposite this opportunity and we wasted and he said himself look when he was pushed. This isn't a criticism. We've all got our own problems and it's not as if we're really really good and so you know this was. This was to use Valdano's line I'm GonNa try and find the the big the English translation of this makes it sound much worse than we saw trauma. Be careful about what I said. Valdano said before the class and I think he maybe was partly. This was partly borne out by the game. This is like a race between two guys. Who are limp. You know this this is a this is a classical these teams are probably not what they once were and I think that the conclusion postgame might. Well be that yeah. These two teams are going to fight for the title but maybe not quite good enough to as messy by the way said a couple of weeks ago or Gills. Let's go from the biggest match in the world. The most famous football club in the world as it was known when I was growing up many many years ago. The ones who played a theater dreams. It's magic united better than Mark Ogden. Chew join us here Augie. All the negativity and the only draw against Everton mighty got more out of it Fifty table this is good right. Yeah Think Epson. Do you believe in social now. No no oh not one again. I don't believe you. Social now. Below the office in the sable and Jordan Evanston East generally could result in anything but freaks. He's one of the Republican votes in every game. Goodison Park always minutesof game the United Book. I watched the game yesterday. I think that you know what you probably shaded. It got very lucky at the end with the goal. That wasn't a goal which probably should have been a go. Let's get straight into that. Yeah Okay 'cause watching let's let's let's start at the beginning of the game started with a horrendous mistake by who another one jumping one where you know he just takes forever to clear the ball and he hits his off of. Calvary Luna goes right into the banks. I mean his comedy comedy he made up for it with with a good goal with some good saves later. What I'm driving at is if you're united. You made an enormous financial commitment to the sky. Used to be knee jerk automatic. People say especially English. Ex-pros David you know best goalkeeper in the world. They don't say that anymore. I don't know if there was ever true but he was a very reliable goalkeeper and now alternates. These tremendous saves with these weird mistakes lapses in concentration. They've locked a lot of money into a difficult to shift and they have that Dean Henderson. Who's doing pretty good? He's on loan. Sheffield United Yeah. Well let's address the higher. I so is not very good in the balls in the as you said a couple of times this year when he's being bullied of Aerial challenges and conceded goals. He's not rooted in the police feet so I think he's a great shot so that surely is the basic premise. Rainy Goalkeepers Becky the ball out of that. It says a lot with his legs as well. So He's you know is a bit. It's not you're trying to click capable still. I don't think he's anywhere near the best. In the world the new data goalkeeper. Anybody thinks that no the likes of a kind of anticipate reinvent the way they go keep a place I mean I saw spurs recently and he was one little polar opposite half he was. It was nearly sent circling high. Say He gave his team searching. Basically sweeper to. Hey It never leaves these penalty IRA but that could also be instruction to your strengths. But well I think it might depend deeply involved but anyway Dean Henderson I don't think about tonight's unless he's told that it will contend with the next season. I think he writes himself very highly. Very confident people say that while he's a talent is supreme confidence the point of overconfidence. I think the problem is it will have the patience to go back to the united. Sheffield United Tie. I don't think he will participate or all right. This is what I'm driving right. If you have these issues in a perfect world you could sell the hair. But the problem is in a perfect world. And there's another factor too because there's another very good young goalkeeper who's going to be coming onto the market very soon most likely in the summer. I don't believe rumors going to extend his contract at Maitland. 'cause he makes insane amount of money and he's out of contract and eighteen months so you could be a problem for some yeah. Maybe I'm just a minute. You're you're going to have its supply and demand you're GONNA have to highly rated goalkeepers make a ton of money for both coming onto the market. I would be coming both on the market. He's Lucido so that's the thing if the option of selling the has kinda gone connected so even this idea of putting having Henderson compete with the hair in training camp or whatever and then assigning starting job. It's not gonNA happen is it? This is the of you know. It's bad mistakes of the of recent when they gave Wayne Rooney along contracts. After I left they thought always grew up with kept up as play when the reality was that Mooney's Asia behind him and I think they've done the same with the honeys than about place and sign a play with the funds would not right but they'd be unhappy dialect but it wasn't a smart decision now. You can argue that Social Romero's probably more of a chance to play the season. Yo remember whatever play. It doesn't really you know it's done. I think playing would give the hair kickoff. The Pakistani maybe needs because I send complaints. Who Don't see the it looks like he's on. Eighteen doesn't seem to wanting the coast games. Henderson might give them a challenge. But I think and it's not being goalkeeper the euro. If the go ahead he he might because we talk mistakes that Hayes made yesterday Thinks Guy I progress. It was just all Jordan. Pickford both made seven going so it can pick not Roy Kingston about co. Keep all right. So what do you do? I mean in the summer which I don't understand why Henderson come come back to the United States. Good enough it's like it's like de for Misdemeanor Osip Syndrome six. I saw you lose honestly Sanchez. But you can't afford do to lose another of your world class players so you give him a shoe store and he's not worth toward the United States we're GONNA lose paw-paw. We know that we call it afford to lose the house well. So let's give industrialized long contract with a lot of money. But OSEN Ozil with emory. And I guess maybe an author ties was was dropped on the bench as well. Sometimes he wasn't even twelve. Th I don't think I don't see why different from an outfield player. But it is extorting situation. You're talking about and again. I don't WanNa keep beating the club over the head with US but clubs. Three highest paid players next season. Correct me if I'm wrong will be Paul Park but at Alexis Sanchez. And that's pretty nice. Clean all right decision that came at the end. I just think it's interesting from a rules. Perspective described as best as best they can but average are pushing for for the equaliser ball comes into guilty secrets in. Who's WHO's tackled by Wamba sock? I think he's right. It should go. This is just he shoots call. He should score. I don't think it's a great finish. Great he's a great save by the ball ends up back out to Calvert Lewin who shoots on goal it comes off of looks like carrying. He'll on the thing is simpson for some reason has stayed on the ground in front of the goal is clearly an offside position. The Bolt SORTA trickles Paxton. He lifts his legs out of the way. And He lets it any. Let's go by. The goal is disallowed. Oh it's not disallowed straight away by the assistant referee. Which I think McGuire made this point. You don't really need vr. Because you know we're Maguire is. You're watching and I think a lot of a lot of the Viagra that happened. After which could have been avoided I think if it had been disallowed and then. Vr simply backed up the decision. You get the impression that the goal stands which means that it's going to be a VR overrule We had a lot of debate about this on the show last night. The Boys Berlin. An Steve Nicol thought that the goal should stand The primarily came out and said they made two points. I'm not sure either point. Stacks up all right so one is. They made a point about the line of vision now. This is different. We had this idea of the Kona Vision which was in the previous set of rules. Now it's his. Is he interfering with his ability to do his job by being his line of vision? He's on the ground. Souls can presumably. Who's six foot five exactly over him? So that's wrong. That's sad you can still see him in his peripheral. Vision is your distraction. Maybe they're making a point I don't know and the other one is does his action then interfere or somehow Through the hand doing something he wasn't I don't think it does because he standing position he knows that if he touches the ball. He's off side. All he does is get out of the way as the ball. Not like he deceives the hair in doing so and day of course is taking step in the other day anyway because he doesn't expect the deflection off Maguire. So well I guess it's not seems to know the answer to this from six to move his legs so vulgar through Jesse was interfering with play but I still think he's a hard know look. I think that he wasn't I don't think he replied. I really don't I think he was on the ground. Like he's saying he was. Just you know. It's a very strange decision to make time for me. So this is kind of decision scandal. Big like the the the line says as you said the line of vision or the eyeliner wherever for the hair there's no way that give fee prevents them from seeing anything of that move and you could see it because the hair moves on the right after cover. Lewin shots and then on the left again once the deflection ECON said the because he's moved too much on the right after the election and the and the in board goes in. There's whether good fees are not. It doesn't change would imagine anything at all this season this week. I mean just brief talking about Karma Co final. The goal that won the game came from the clearly part. Yeah I mean you can't usually offer that but it clearly came off the side. Probably see. Yeah he's about to season. I mean he's still anyway referees. I feel from sometimes because there's so many angles and replaced but if they have them that and you know all right. We're GONNA use your cheery sunny disposition to cheer up United Fans Everywhere fifth-place. Buddha Fernandez is fantastic. Paul Park by might choose to return one day. Start playing football as well ease by train you rotate? And he's very Bruno. Okay you go. He tweeted which part of the world this time. No He's backing Carrington so expect. You seem very very soon. The only problem for united is that the next game is against it as well. It wants to get through this the spurs and sits again th they do a decent features and everybody around me playing each other so I think that you know. Chelsea running gang of games Tottenham half way now. I do think that Chelsea bobby thinking about this somebody. I'll say this if I sit by pool that wolves other than wolves in terms of the will prepare yourself mentally. We're GONNA pay the percentage game in a minute love again other than other than wolves. I mean save played united. They've played spurs. They've played the other contenders for that spot doesn't have to be able to play sympathy but who cares. I mean you thank you teams. That have nothing to play for Chelsea so flake. Anybody so if you talk. I'm just in terms of schedules. I don't know that it's such a bad schedule. No I don't think anyone in racist go. Well it says a comfortable ruling. Obviously the United Shakeup Finance has made such a difference. It makes you wonder why messed around for so long John You. It's one hug with the price when you getting minimum. Could be the difference between two more points intro. It's again. I don't think faith actually open opposition. Believe place this year. I think that for the Tizi might drag on and on. So I know you've been talking to city So all right. So let's so. Let's make this assumption that that that that city are playing in the Champions League and let's let's give percentages before race after mark makes his point. I WanNa make the point that I wouldn't say that less than second and third year I was going to make that point. You will have bette for less the ring at phone. Big Time on the last day of the season is the kingpin that may be a big game because recent release dropping like a stone Champions League six point or the last day of the season. How exciting is that? All right So yeah so. Let's talk about it which to tomorrow for. Screw the percentages just telling flat out which two teams finished third and fourth. And by the way before paying united on the last game of the season Leicester Play Spurs the week before. So the Spurs United Understood Tony. They've got five points clear of Chechen fourth and seven on united. All right. I'm GONNA do this. No actually you guys start. Who finished fourth despite to be said about less and less to cling on but it will be a tight thing let's just about cling on third and. I think I think united will get full just two goals aren't you got less than united. I go for less than wolves. Boom boom more. That's in the middle of next seat in it for the championship. I I'm a take a different direction. Anything Chelsea get knocked out of the Champions League relieve some of the pressure politician. Hudson door presumably coming back at some point. Contact coming back at some point. I got Chelsea finishing fourth. I Guess Lester finishing third although or maybe even Chelsea third or fourth thing is interesting because we've all been kind of getting out of the season but all of a sudden they speaking fall away and you know a remarkable year could be the best thing in the worst thing no more picking Brennan is for Chelsea what what. Rumson new less. Nice Kavi so doesn't jaws. We're GONNA detour into the Bundesliga I really I thought bizarre. That's often Heim against by an official the fact that buying scored like I don't even know how many you probably don't have your head. How many goals? How quickly? But it felt like he was six meal straight away. Yes with after fifty minutes of them. Yeah in the first half. It's not the first time that buying have done this. And they had they had like three in twelve minutes at one point you let me see by state top also because Leipzig We're helped redraw But I think the focus here. Why are we talking about this year at the top is what happened At the end of the game in those last what was it? Fifteen minutes I have never seen anything like this before. We will say oh but luck with Germany and Austria. They did in the nineteen eighty two World Cup. You know that was completely different. That was for a reason so basically I'm going to try again to to to to say what happened. A banner appeared in the in the Byron. End calling Deep Hop who is. Let's call the benefactor of oftentimes not efficiently the owner because they have a fifty plus one rule. We put a lot of money back. Basically calling him An S. O. Beaked to use the infamous him He's been he's been getting a ton of abuse lately lately everywhere off and on goes and will explain why later This caused a lot of animosity. The buying players went over. They ask the fans to take the manner down. The three suspended the game. The players went down the tunnel. Then they came back up basically. It was almost as if they were applying the the racism eventually Both sets of players came out and Playing again and but they didn't they really play. They simply stood around and they just just past. Keep your bees. And that's how it petered out and some people came out and said. Oh you know this is. This is a great day in German football. We've turned over leased players aren't gonNA stand for this kind of abuse and whatever else. I'm uncomfortable with the whole thing with the players taking it upon themselves to go and do this in this specific situation agree with you Doubt for those who don't know the reason hall get so much. Abuse is twofold gone abuse for a long time because I think you should explain the fifty percent one rule. Yeah for the listeners. Don't know what happens when you want to own a club in Germany. Yes so basically in Germany. There's something called the fifty plus one rule which says that you can't have a majority owner who owns a controlling stake in the club. Then something that they do to keep the clubs sort of more involved with the fans members of your club members. Yeah In recent years we've seen cases where that has been circumvented in different ways. One of them of course is The other one is oftentimes. They've had you've had very wealthy benefactors coming in and in different ways pumping enormous amounts of money into the club. Halton tiny place Tiny club They've done this this. This ruffled a lot of feathers. But this was sort of seven eight years ago type. What's driven forward is that a lot of German fans we're Kinda traditionalist. Who would like the fact that you don't have individual owners Who Don't like You know a lot of trappings of modern football. We saw the protest of the night. Monday night game Basically they routinely go and they they put banners and they routinely sing about this and abused whenever we play often high when they play Livesey. Now what's happened with often? High more recently is is twofold. Wine the Broussard Dortmund. Ultras have been warned about not putting up banners against Dietmar hopp They they went on probation. They did it again. So as a result the German league ban them from travelling to Hoffman. Heim next to other clubs Other ULTRAS OUT OF SOLIDARITY SAID. Well wait a minute. We're just speaking her mind. You can't do this on top of that separately from this hop has done Which I think. I don't know I'm really not comfortable with at all. He actually when when? Bush Gorman played at Hockenheim. He hid microphones in the stands so they could effectively gather evidence and dormant and he's taken civil action against three of them for calling him an sob and other nasty words. Personally I'm not comfortable with this at all I did not nice to go and insult somebody on the other hand. What else how else are fans supposed to go and and Organiz? I think to go into for for billionaire to go and start suing individuals The the fight is a Weirdo. In a control freak I give you that and I think that was avoided with domain fines. I don't think you could insult with the banner. Like days will be on television in front of millions of people around the world. Just insult someone could eamon. Sob in that manner. I don't think that's right either. And I think understand why was unhappy and why we should point out that this is a case of solidarity between fans from many different club versus the Glock Back Union. Bedding and buying so traditional rival sets of fans are saying. Wait a minute. These people are taking our game away from us. That's how they see. Yeah Yeah and but again. I think the Monday night game protests from from the stem cell funds. I think have been quite creative in quite good. They clearly don't want any Bundesliga Games on the on the Monday night did it. Also protects the body to through Denny's boards on the page. That kind of thing. I think this was out of order to insert someone like this with banners tapping before them. Yes but it's not because before that you should do it again and again and again so I think that I think that the there's is right from the league and also Kazman from an eager to show whether or not whether you think they should be in. The position is now or that. He's a weird on everything. See when it comes to free speech. I'm a bit of an absolute so no I strongly disagree place for either. What what is the place to go and do it in your living room? Go that towards football. You insult people right. No you go there. You go there to make a statement where it's where it's going to be visible people. You don't get much to insult people. That's not what you do. I. I'm not saying that you do that but I don't have. I have a serious issue with the fact that he doesn't like you are a public figure. This idea that will you can't be insulted. People can feel insulted for many different ways right. They're going after him because of his behavior yet trying to shut them down and and I have an issue. The other thing which doesn't sit well with me. A lot of people have remarked About this is. I think you said this. Show right. This whole Byron The players refusing to play because billionaire gets Gets called the Knicks Ob? I had this one on one meal if they needed points. Yeah Munich would have attacked hundred percent. The other point which a lot of people on social media is wait a minute. A billionaire owner. Who's on a lot of controversial things gets called an SOB and all of the sudden you guys decide effectively. Stop playing but then we've had incidents of racist abuse and I don't think it's business as usual but yeah. She plays reacting that way. I just felt disappointed in the buying players that they kind of went. Along with this Let's let the referee do his job. Referee says let under the rules. We're GONNA suspend the game because of that which by the way I don't even I mean I don't understand why they couldn't have sent insecurity and had the banner remove which would seem more more reasonable and which offends in every country which happens in normal consciousness. People don't wear sandals with socks but For you to go and do this. I think is kind of an insult to too many different people people who watch the game and be nothing to do with a protest. I know they were applaud. People like oh but look everybody applauded. Dietmar HOPP Yeah Duh. You're in Hoffman High Stadium. He's employees Yeah I think this is going to run and I think you expect by Munich as a doorman work because Domino Association of Think final fifty thousand years. It's not it's not. The amount is the program. Here is the fact that could by Munich get fined for example for the funds. Behavior again like you said they express whether you agree with the non. We disagree but I don't think Byron would get fined because as a club right. They went along with making this making the statement and I think whatever find they get is going to be relevant. I do think that it does create another issue between Byron potentially between buying the fans. You know you don't a difficult. It's bad optics right. Yeah if you're a fan you're going to say well wait a minute. You're hanging out to dry here. We're the people who go out and support you week in week out. We care about this club. We'll be at this club. After most of these players are long gone. You may disagree with us on the mutual hop and she's not really going to cost you anything it doesn't affect you. You're basically shutting us up and making us look like the bad guys here And we don't expect that from you I again. I would have thought by and go back out. They just play your game. Don't get involved in phineas and like the club. Don't get involved in this. It's a problem between Hawk. The authorities regulate to stop the NFL. Joel's enough German stuff. Let's have some quick hits instead. Now we know is going to happen. But maybe this and maybe not against Wofford. Liverpool's unbeaten run in the primarily because over after their three nil. Defeat is the second loss in the last three games after the match and it was sandwiched in between a humdrum display against West Ham. No reason to really worry here. It's not like they won't win the Premier League title but is it just a normal physiological reaction after a break so I think yeah I think there's a few thing I think you're right the winter break. I think maybe so. They got rusty after that. Our so. Think that when you so much your heads. Psychologically even if you don't want it you may be switched off a little bit you know in this gender so that I guess West. I'm Anne was that. Was that Tom we again at? Wofford where I I never felt. They were really in the game and also the product of have said on the show on on such the night. I think when you've been when you've never been pushed the season so when you've maybe united when you went up to the minute but all the other games even when you pay the fifty percent of your abilities you won't even when you were. You were seventy percent. You won't and no one really. It was too easy for you. Push to and I think he got to a point where you turn over fifty percent because the governor's playing somehow either but then this this this one time there the fifty percent is nine and then when you wake up to play more intensity is too late you to go down to ego defending so bad by the way. I think is lost five times with Liverpool. Guess who was next to him in a center bike for four five games. Yeah Dejean Laurie you and to me this makes you even greater but when the free aren't creating or firing if the opposition can shut Alexander Arnold off-day fields and fields not really struggled to create against teams teams. Who sit and yeah. No team is a perfect from every vantage point but in terms of technical ability and the ability to create that is not the strong in that midfield but that doesn't take anything away from the FI. That is an incredible season and it would be an incredible season for them. Those forty four games. Unbeaten is incredible eighteen winner. A Roy's incredible even if it's an average premier league season which I still think it is because so many big clubs in transition is still fantastic. What we've done so far agreed for the feds consecutive years and the fourth time in five years Manchester City win the League Cup Got Vida Medi close at the end basically deserved it right. Yeah they they did deserve it. Also because while the game to spark into life in the second half it was also because watch out for Johnstone's at felt about sorting I didn't even look at. It looks like something Phil Jones do on a day. Yeah and that's the only reason the game opened up. We're going to mourn with shots as well with a lot of changes. Sova no debrecen big shoutout to fill foden. I still find it. I know he played well in this game. I find it hard to judge. How good he really But pay well done. Well done city yet yet. Another transit now. I know you love your checkers. Yes almost as much as you love your man should tell me about what? Imbaba pulled off against Dijon. And as you'll be doing this all the time well. The good thing is that he's been confirmed. Clearly which is always good news before the second leg of the Champions League Day for On Saturday evening against these boys while he was he was on the near the touchline and got the ball and did Wa believe you. Call the flip flop in English where you don't know about the flip. It's more like a modified elastic. So infringing Celestica as well but here I think is the fifth out so when you basically in the same foot movements touch the ball with the outside of your right foot and then the inside of your rifle. So he's going to do the flip flop and then as well as doing that to to to defend their basically also when as make which is pretty remarkable. I think the other day someone is doing the other day Marcus rush for similar flip flop and then other days been injured for your season. Season beat another jude. And then he lost the ball against the third jude right. Yeah but he still goes giving system day was called And it looked like for goods in Paris again. Just in time for the clash against the big man. God also looking forward to you. Vinci's against Inter on my laptop of course the TV was reserved for the classical. Your Ryan did on the other screen and now you've got postpones. Well how pens we'll call nobody no country where there's no football. I'll pretty much book in the Northeast. Well I mean we're other games only just across the mountain. It's because of the it's because obviously of the of the corona virus restrictions. Obviously take to come first. Health comes first. I'm not an allergist. I'll defer to the experts but I have a major problem with what the League did the League decides I They're gonNA play behind closed doors. Then they decide oh no. Let's just postpone this game? And because the calendars totally screwed up. Let's go let's play these and it's five games were postponed. Let's play them on May thirteenth and move caught by Tanya from to May Twentieth Which also means moving it by the way from Rome to Milan? Because they have the hand stadium on the eighteenth for the euro's then they change their mind again and say oh eight now Let just move those five games forward one week and play them next weekend. Which would be the weekend of May seventh and eighth Play the game on Monday. Night may ninth Which by the way the which we then leaves an open for all the other teams. Whose Games weren't postpone. I guess they just kind of miss out on that Now they're Now they're the they're talking about changing that again doing some other nonsense first before that they were talking about. Oh a why. Don't we play them in week this week and shift the copay? Tanya Games that were scheduled. Both you've an interplay and this week this is crazy this is absolutely an of. You may get decision then as well of course I have another game that they have to make a decision and stick with it. Okay government tells you using your options. You decide decide amongst yourselves you stick with it. It's absolutely absurd the author who is Easy meetings and enter Chief Executive. He's the president of the League that the League comes out with a decision and then he flips out and he doesn't like it. You know I know but the reason. He says they didn't tell me about you. Know what like sit down and decide. It's really not that different. You may need to lock yourself in the room but come out. Make a decision and show united front and stick with it. This is just a freak show. How much do you think these would impact on the rest? Because obviously had you've worn behind right. I have no idea. I don't believe there's a big against one team or another game happened on. May Two thirds to say that. Asked me once when when they actually? I don't know what happens if you reach Champions League. Final who the hell knows and Europa League final? I mean honestly this whole thing is just so stupid it was such. It was such an amazing season an amazing race. Leave it to them to screw it up exactly not a great run for Chelsea right now. When addition to the hammering from buying in the Champions League they need a last-ditch goal to avoid defeat at Boras Dr Jules what is your diagnosis warring From a patient. Jc and Franklin one in six now in the League as well If you look at the goal scorers in two hundred twenty I think Markus three then with Agus to adequate amounts to like. We'll tell you Abraham was going to get tired couldn't do it and he was gonNA suffer inform in the new year yet but you can find other options. Right are the ways I mean. He started to see but still. Now you want to why you don't play anymore because he's tired. Know another way. Isa Learning curve learning curve. Of course it is tough time and every team goes through. And he's he's all depends now how lampard and the players right up pouch and how they come back from it and out of could they find the solutions. You've put in the efficacy this week and and then you will have. The is is over now so they could focus with one game a week for the end of the season for example if they lose to Liverpool. I think much better for them. I think that's going to be pretty big in terms of of their their their run for the top four but you touched upon earlier with Augie because wolves they're going to keep going you expect spurs not so much maybe but Certainly United are GonNa are gonNA keep going. That night is the one thing. I think Twisting maybe in their favor talking could have taken advantage of Tennessee dropping points but it hosts awards when those sorry on on Sunday they contrive to throw where to one lead and lose three two Marino. Insist they were the better team and deserved more GAB. Do you agree pretty semi you. Don Enough I. I don't agree. I don't know what on a manager speaks after a game and they've lost thrown away league. There's no good way to do right. You had to praise the opposition to come out and say that you were the better team because you were two one up. It's just silly you know I. It doesn't do him any favors. He made a big call and leaving out other viral more than Vertongen. I think 'cause you know obviously talking doesn't really fit into his own it and playing in the back three so dire can pass out of the back in midfield. You know what I mean other players can pass to like doing. The game is Greg. I don't I don't know what's going on. He's got the huge alibi. Did he say that his season begins July? First it's actually all right. He's I think he's an insult. Your club to your fans who pays to get a very very expensive price and also you'll players. Oh don't worry about this season. You have a shot at getting into the Champions League. This is the right which makes a difference in eighty nine hundred million in terms of how much money you're gonNA have to spend Next season and in the summer I just don't I don't understand him. Bridge Doorman Make It. Four straight wins beating Freiburg and pulling within a point of Life Sake. Things gene central goal address. This wasn't particularly impressive. Was it. It was an didn't play really well. The goal is a good goal. Harlan was on the banks There was a bit of rotation and athlete. Arthur J. D. which which would be which would be no more because plates some. They had some really good Games lately. Especially against. Pg and Champions League is where we love intensity and I think the fact that they won't without playing while she's clear. This is a game they would have dropped points few months ago. I really believe so. And the fact that they won't even without being impressive and stay in touch with banning that title race especially then we'll we'll see dropping points the following day weekend for them and it shows that sometimes you need to grind out a result and they did and again. This is a young team. I believe that you know. I think he was positive in a way. I WanNa see them ways. I WANNA see fit Markle Royce. I don't think though but you know they don't Royce isn't going to get into the starting lineup. No I think Michael releases fit. He should start and I think this would. This would be a different team in the mix. I agree I agree. So as we said LIVE SAKE SLIP FURTHER BEHIND THEIR HEAD BY LIVER KUZIN. One one ferries got for your friends. You your pizza. Bush saying more South Boston lucky. Frankly because Leon Bailey's goal the police on the show and then watch it again. He completely missed hits shanks head away. Wanted you know I. I think as dominating as they were In in recent outings but I still think they did they they. They had more than enough to win and their three points back. But I'll tell you I don't think the Bundesliga is owner is over by any stretch of the imagination. Greek for Pizza Bush in looking up also is true. Yes he is. He's as a whole kid. He's the whole tool. Shed point against move on. I exit a chance to go six points clear but they messed that up. Didn't they? Did again is to deficient run. The loss previous. We'RE GOING AGAINST IRAQ. Last which is more surprising and then this time. Aides played really where this very young fun. Three and specially the center forwards Marin Bahadur. Who's having an incredible news only nineteen and they really well in the European although they lost to last from links as you know in Austria in midweek yet pick themselves up really well to go to Iraq says well to the arena and win that game to come back level in the table which will leave us with great tighter raise. You know the seasoning there which was really good but there was a young talent on display for both teams. And after. Say The keys from Eisenach Monty. Really this year ago people were talking about Erickson Hog about like. Oh you're going to go return to buyer he's GonNa do this on. The back of isis run talks kind of fallen. Though I know he lost a lot of players vote and I I was never going to fairs on on Thursday night and I have to say I was disappointed by lack of intensity in the game and the lack of creativity as well. And when when Donovan the is is based when Zia who is not mid week but came back at the weekend is not on good day that lack of creativity and I and I think that could be a problem. Going forward sin win the League but overall is not season for them too early Gorge Sende larger on their way to win over Bologna that sends them top of this area for now. Got All that we mentioned earlier. There remained consistent though. Yeah they're incredibly consistent and in Lewis Backtra who's phenomenal. They have a real real gem of a player. I I don't quite now. I I just think the eighteenth Item of evidence Either you don't write somebody off because moved to a big club. Perhaps too soon. Or whatever Y- He's absolute phenomenon. Simone Inzaghi doing such a good job at putting keeping a little things. He reminds me a little bit of cloudy. Eighty during Leicester's run in two thousand fifteen sixteen to the primarily title. Now he's come out and said No. We are competing for the title but the way everything under wraps everything home not easy to do in a city like Rome tools Madrid. Follow up there. Goodwin's overby around in the pool with a stinker of a drug and Y'all and all black saves the day once again. You've got a new theories to explain their underachievement or do you want to just move on and talk about Carlos Vela's goal which you know your lovely that goes back not just quickly article. It looked to me Watching that just to get me for granted. Espanola been struggling all season. They think about what you said a short Shimmy owner team taking a game for good. That's the way they looked. Yeah no but it looked like he didn't have the Hungary game And created I thought very little and as you said if oh black there or let's save another keeper David Hale for example then the loser got. I'm not sure what to say anymore. Atlanta schools seven quarters away from home for the second time this season winning seven to with your politics in incredible form again despite their Third Goal and then if you haven't seen go and check it out only by Morley goals this season than Ladera. Why doesn't everybody play like this? They make it look so easy. Three Jude Make It. Look easy case you know. They have part. From Papua Gomez they have a bunch of generally imperfect players guys. Who aren't you know? We're very good players. But none of these guys are are really all rounders or if they're all rounders. You don't necessarily have that quality. I I mean the reason they don't is because it takes a lot of guts to play the way they do And it takes players very committed to to to to the cause and and it takes a manager who who believes in it and it makes adjustments but I think people are looking at this and saying they can do it with those guys. What could we do with much better players? And that's the thing you think better players who are maybe how can I put it no as receptive to demands DOT Gasperini can have for example? You know they still be like sorry. Sorry worked out and putting up players for it and they were ready to listen and do. I said once you go maybe to a bigger club with better players in my Nelson high so responsive Juicy Wyoming. I TAKE POINT. I would chuck Pepperoni Pep Guardiola at you if you remember The ways Barcelona teams pressed those guys were superstars. Depressing run around and you know he did it with racking sterling and and a lot of others so now obviously he's Pep Guardiola so it's easier for lassie. I think you can make a point about certain situations as well. I just so different. And so much fun to watch Let me not the only one doing it but the only one doing it to this degree do you think a bigger club would giving me stance. He had a shot at his bigger club. I don't I don't know I. I don't think he fancies at one of these. You mentioned I say the this was Pretty Extraordinary But Boban who is Me On defacto titles. But he's the factor sporting director boss. your Buddy Ivan. Gazeta came out and he talked about the medium plan and budgets. And you know getting young players and better players and going slowly. He came out and he he was really really hard. He complained about the fact that I mean Supposedly met with Ralph Rang Nick behind his back. He talked about how they needed to to to go and extend players contracts like he Brahima Vich. This is a real cultural clash between you know people who are old school ex pros and people who count every penny because they're running your business juxtaposed against the background of financial for play of course And Mandalay Boban spoke. Glenn Wet Right. It's not me and Bob on one side or does he just on the other side short a call us from this longer right. Yeah and I think Bobbins Gonna I think a greater chance of you being do sporting director. Imbaba right now But it does. It does speak to the reality of I. Think a lot of times ex pros even very intelligent ex-pros They're just so disconnected from the Of of money and Finances and and whatever else and I think that's made thing more more challenging and speaking of evolving. Because he just he's old club Arsenal. There is also came out. I always recommend the excellent excellent Swiss Rob Ramble. Executive believe is also an arsenal fan. But he's got a very long thread On their finances declared a pretty big loss of thirty two million dollars their first loss in a long time This is going to turn the screws a little bit on our state dinner Especially if they don't qualify for visiting the season was she's Riley more at the moment more like more likely than than than qualifying Champions League. Which is you know. He's a club who love big wage bill but not the revenue of the Champions League to To COVER FOR IT AND IMPROVE. Your seasons still manage to sell some players to get money in the United States that they will bring bringing in. But that's gone now and you'd have to look at the current squad to think if they need some money and they probably will who'd you said together money and you already look up. People like Obama young although he will have only have one year left contract has another year after. Or then you go down the route of Martinelli and people like that is tough times and and you really want for the club. Dot Chimpanzee Qualification. You know now. Fourth-place replace wherever they can get it otherwise you cannot another of having What can strongly recommend to Rolston Yankee? And the crunchies is do not hire twenty mirror ball. Bud Go going to All right that's all we've got time for this. You WanNa do you want to give us a pointless fat yes? I've got a good one this week. You know transfer market the the the websites. We'll give value to play as they mark yet storage and anti marked. They don't pretend to know and to set. All evaluation is right but they tried to give the best as they can and I think most of the they quote right right you agree or no senors not anyway. They've got an INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT. As with a big following Two POINT SIX MILLION. The guess who just plugged them. What player block them because he was unhappy with the value that they've given him on the website? I feeling it's It's a big one. If you think about big big big one that would be one who got upset by seeing the valuation doesn't think he's right about himself wisit. Cristiano Ronaldo so in thirty five years of age because the website said is worth sixty five million euros or pounds on their website is not happy so block them. I mean come on okay so first of all. I don't expect it was Ronaldo sitting operate his own instagram account. But this kind of reinforces my point. Great about valuations in the insanity evaluations. Because it's not transparent market. It's not a market. Where if you're a top player. There's a very finite number of people can even afford you. It's pretty obvious that China Rondo at thirty five years of age with his enormous salary. He might be one of the top two or three players in the world five. That's GONNA affect his vision for sure. Did you wonder what masses I know? And perhaps not coincidentally producer Freddie. Show telling us just now coming through big time telling you. Leeann messy valuation is Jules hundred and twenty. Six million then Christie's a couple of years young nurse yesterday. That's what that's what crisanto got really the harmful. What's he's twice more than me. No no no. Let's plug them. Well you almost want this you. You almost want messy to not stay at Barcelona until Yvonne de Although his value is zero. Yeah this the this document saying this of cool understanding money and things like that. Oh and now producer Freddie coming up big time look according to about policy. Bhalla is worth more really. Send him over the five all right man. That's all we're GONNA. We're GONNA talk about this week. We're going to be back next week. We didn't touch upon the Champions League which we normally like a look back so in Thirty seconds or less. I will mention the fact that you've interests were terrible against Leon. Yeah Chelsea were terrible against Biron and you can take the other two games and then much the PEP Guardiola had a pethick plan to go to the Barnaby. When I went to one and the other game Napoli played really well against Barcelona other. Suppo- Mr for the first time for the first time went into the stadium in the city where he's idol Diego out among plate. Which was it was. It wasn't an ordinary views older. They have. Maybe that's going to freak him. Yeah and a shot is way. Too Mountains echoed the records of my come seek although in two hundred games less and he is available. He's available in free in the summer as so what and I leaves us with really good secondly by the way in Boston or not between this to fight an aunt. And we'RE GONNA be back next week till then there's crispy and then there's crispy try our new and improved Tyson crispy chicken strips crispy just got crispy.

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Look ahead to Alaves, news round up and Champions League review

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Look ahead to Alaves, news round up and Champions League review

"And back to the Real Madrid. PODCAST will coming up. Today will round up. What's been making the news. We will back adds that epic mid week draw in Champions League with. PSG will run the rule of this weekend's Appendi- in League. I love as first. Let's take a look at what's making the news over the last twenty four hours. Very Velvety has renewed his contract with Real Madrid trade until twenty twenty five with a release clause asset at seven hundred and fifty million the last few months of given him the confidence to believe thirteen thirteen now has a significant future as Madrid. First team player they call it the nineteen year old forward. I'll be cells workers so far. This season scored twenty seven goals in Nineteen Games is again making headlines. He allegedly has a release clause of just fifty point two million in his contract act and it was reported. That RB LEIPZIG WERE IMPO position to buy in January but the club issued a stern denial of any any agreement actually being in existence with anybody and that message words if anybody thinks they can buy them in January unless you go very deep pockets and around one hundred million-euro to spat then forget about it. It's father Alpha's keen that he does make a move to Bundesliga to continue his development before jumped to either primarily or live league. Now some news for anybody believing that they can roll into Madrid to take venise on this January. The club has made it clear. The answer is no despite the fact that he has played very little in recent weeks. They've said that he is simply non transferrable already this January but next summer as well she rumors flying around Spain about the future of Jaden Sancho and his potential for acquisition this January newry the player has become increasingly disillusioned believing that he is being scapegoated for the drop in form of Dortmund this season in addition of course into the old breach of club discipline seems highly unlikely that vets and Dortmund would sanction a salad January but is use is only going to be peripheral by Lucian Fabra. Br Who knows he might just happen. Plenty of rumors beginning to fly ran particularly in the UK about the future of America Obama Yang with reports votes saying that he wants out of Arsenal at the end of the season of letting son to the potential for him to come to Real Madrid. Now he still will have a year to go on his is contract. So it's sizable fee. Would need to be paid. The player will be thirty one years old as well so whether Rao Madrid would want to invest a large sum of money. The player of that age. That is the big question. The reality of a move to Ben Obey looks. You'd have to say slim. It's almost moody as comments. Still doing the rams after he issued an apology to eat in Hasselt following his challenge that led to him leaving the field against PSG. All he's my goal is never to hurt or harm another. The player especially eaten ought to try to contact him after the game to apologize. But I couldn't actually see him has odd won't be it's this week but he will be back for this pre Christmas rush including the game against boss alone There is some potential bad news. On the Horizon Fort Marcelo and he'd Mendy path who stole Busey Dortmund's there's Ashraf mckinney will be returning to Madrid next summer on that will be no potential for a deal to keep him keep an eye to on Federica Torika Kiiza at Fiorentina. The Italian International Spent Five seasons with the club and is said to what a fresh challenge sedan is known to admire the player who scored sixteen goals across all competitions. He's played in this year. Keeping up voters an impressive ratios. Well Remember for Italy's under twenty one's six six goals in thirteen games another rumor circulating particularly again in the UK rest surrounds Alexander's at Arsenal unhappy with the current coach. Camera would welcome move away. More removes ciculating especially in the UK. About Alex Arsenal unhappy with the coach. Emory would welcome a move away whereas some suggesting that if Madrid Kit Package Hamas Rodriguez and Mariana as part of the deal and get some caches ashes. Well then this still looks as if it could work. Certainly twenty-eight-year-old scoring record for Arsenal is impressive. Thirty one goals in seventy eighty five appearances his contract to the runs until twenty twenty two. Now there is a lengthening queue beginning to appear to get the signature of Paolo Kabbalah. From event is back in the team and back right. Inform six goals since October. Twenty second culminating with that goal against Athletico in Champions League the other night however again there is no chance of January. Move so it'll be next summer before his future is finally sorted out. Oush optimus of that. Champions League draw all with PS G. That were clearly mixed emotions in the house and the days that followed the fans were given up. Performance reminded all that it had very best first. This squad has the ability to compete and beat anybody in this competition. The downside for game was one before defensive. Lapses cost them a famous victory very nimble footwork adding continues from the referee to say great over from the referee that Dan could well from Amazon culvahouse returned to Val Verde Super Bowl. Aw Hey sweeping. Real Madrid ends with the pool being swept by that number nine which kicks it. Despite Burnett's attempt to tackle go also saw two goals carrying in France. The Frenchman all full against the saw from the French capital and it looks as though they all go to avenge they match day. One defeated Tarasova. PSG will keep coming. And he's the person did not last for look at all the ran inexplicably left the pool drift that he reckoned without killing them. Wait just behind gold from buffet against the club. He you might want to play full seventeenth Gulf appear essential. These won't Hundredth Day by letting go it was. It was an epic ignites wasn't it in Sudan's view in the days following. He said the players deserve to win. We played a great game. I would love them to play like this every matched. I liked everything. The attitude was good. We played good football in the end. It was a cruel Ted but will concentrate on the good that we did and I also say thank you to the fans as well. They were fantastic with us today. the big surprise of course was Iskoe so when did he decided hi today was GonNa play it. He said I wouldn't say when I decided but he has been phenomenal today. The team overall whereas spectacular on Valverde Very. He said he is growing like all the place. Here I'm doing really well. He plays box to box the whole game. He is being brilliant. And lastly a final word on Naveh sees it. I'm not surprised what he's done today. We know him well. He made five exceptional saves which helped them to get the result Johny. Chris added a few views of his own. He said this performance gives us confidence for the next few weeks. We must continue with this type of game. We played today. We aren't happy with the result. Zolt but the performance was good now after the dust settled though the reality doomed not winning the group what lies a hat full round. The trade is the potential for a big big game in the round of sixteen. The likes of May be event by meaning or Manchester City. Perhaps moving on. Let's take a look at out of this weekend's components a thirty previous meetings between the two of one twenty four loss all drawn to Alvarez warm one nil last year my will Gothi is goal goal scored in the ninety fifth minute against low potatoes team. They had one one in Madrid. Back in May of two thousand bosque was the manny charge. Way Back then mcmanamon and a NEL. Karachi played that day but dribs biggest. Victory five nil. They won three times. The last time was may of two thousand and one two goals for I will help Gehrig duty and Gyro all on the scoresheet that day now. Rail Madrid start level with bustle under the top. This weekend elevates down in thirteenth beaten six times this season in fourteen the away recco pole the home record very good. Severe the only team to you of one hit this season athletic. How warm one. Back on the twenty ninth of October. Let's get a look at the numbers. Then on the tale of the tape while goals per game Valez one point one to point to around Madrid pass completion rates seventy point three for says eighty seven point one around Madrid. Ed possession per game average four point one this season for out of s fifty six percent forearm. Madrid As for the goal shots per game nine point one out of a sixteen sixteen point nine foot rail Madrid in terms of the actual Goal Sixteen Goals School for Alabama this season two thousand eight barral. Madrid three-set piece goes out of s just one set-piece setpiece Gulf route Madrid. This nine goes in open play for out of its twenty two for rabbitry at four penalties for Madrid three penalty or Alabama's now plays to watch chat for two X primly Plas- no less Lucas Path. First of all seven goals the top scorer this season only once as he may double figures in his career. That was back in two thousand fifteen sixteen. Seventeen with deportiva time there. Yalu six goals the former former Newcastle player. His best season since two thousand fourteen. Two Thousand Fifteen. When he ate with th Hannover he to looks as if he's on course for double figures in the the only time that he scored in double figures was twice when he was with Real Madrid. Castilla back in two thousand ten eleven and eleven twelve. It was a key assist provider for these two players. V Dowell Very all that just about wraps up. Today's proceedings we will be back next Tuesday with the review. In the meantime. Don't forget you can catch up with all the previous editions of the show via the website. WWW DOT rail Madrid podcasts dot com over. I tunes is Google spotify or stitch. Enjoy the weekend and hopefully the three points that are coming in. I'll see you back again. He next Tuesday for me. Tim Capable Thaw by.

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Looking ahead to Sociedad plus Bale and Reguilon sign on at Tottenham

The Real Madrid Podcast

11:25 min | Last month

Looking ahead to Sociedad plus Bale and Reguilon sign on at Tottenham

"Everybody welcome back to the Rail Madrid podcast. Now, coming up, we're GONNA take a look ahead to this weekend's Kickoff Against Rail Southie Dad and will roundup who and what is making the Madrid news across the media's Today. Now, remember all of the previous episodes of the podcast are available via the website www dot. Madrid podcast, DOT COM, or S- tissue Google spot revive at all of the major streaming providers. So what is making news today? Well, the long running saga involving Gareth Bale is over he's in London will be presented at Tottenham later on today along with regular armed who has signed for Tottenham for fear of around thirty million here, and now there is one story during the rounds about potential play moving to. Madrid and that is the Chelsea and French midfielder. Mu Back a Yoko he's been last season with Monaco the club Chelsea bought in from the year prior to that he was ads Neilan said that was interest from INSA reporting and Spain suggesting a fee around thirty million euro has been agreed with Chelsea I'm not a deal could be concluded as soon as next Monday or Tuesday. Meridia Pochettino is making headlines as well. He's been interviewed over the last twenty four hours during the course of the interview. He revealed that he did not get contacted by anybody from Boston Lana about recent vacancy that eighty gallons eight we'll be a dream to coach Madrid in the future is still based in London. He went on to say I've got a son who plays for Spurs under twenty three team. He was asked as well whether eat spoken with Jersey Marina. Yes. He said I had he is a very, very good guy especially for me on the dread he added. No if the day will come when I do coach Madrid, but of course, it is my dream back to the coming certain gags. We as battle an regular long now gone, it might not be the end of the cells Roma still keen to add Natural Fernandez and of course, there is still Milan interest in Luca Yovich situation this season no, it does seem already to have been settled upon with Z.. Dan. Keen to see off to that difficult I season if he can raise his game to the level that he was sharing in Bundesliga, it is a defining season for the Serbian fairly it will almost certainly lead to his exit next some as for natural he is happy at Madrid but did only place six times. Last season he mayfield thirty years of age that the time might be now for one final significant move. This could well be it. Now one who could be making a surprise return to the first team? This season is myocardial the twenty-three-year-old afford who's been Levante for the past two seasons on library scored eleven goals in his sixty three appearances. He'd lost veered from Madrid back in two thousand, seventeen, eighteen when he scored three goals in his fourteen appearances that year his career then to be very much on an would. Trajectory and he was very much involved on the international scene with the under twenty. One's very at that incredible scoring record of sixteen goals in thirty one appearances. anyways. The Dan it said he's happy for for him to stay the season as it at least offers more variation upfront memory can a wide player on the left old riders? Well, he is in the final year of his contractors a big year for him. hoagie Mendez is looking to leave himself involved asked Madrid from member, his lost client hammers Rodriguez left to go to Everton very recently he's being pushing the services of Ruben Diaz, twenty-three-year-old Benfica, central defender, and Portuguese International. He's made eighty nine appearances for the club eight goals in that time the bizarrely three of as last six. Been Own Goals Manchester City of also being in contact or as a release clause for the play, which is at one hundred, million euro city had a sixty million offer turned down. There's also been lots of comment across the media about the good summer of business that Rail Madrid have had time general financial uncertainty all over the. Bail regular on hammers? Oscar. To name just a few have overruled delivered Saturday savings of sixty, two, million euro, which in this climate is very good business indeed especially as the club bill toward a some of significant investment potentially next year, and if you look at what they've actually banged from sales, this is not on salary savings. They've touched out ninety, five, million, the thirty million, which is about to be received for Sergio A on. Some of the media have commented about fans not being happy about all of these Claire Exits nobody arriving really is impossible to underplay the importance of good housekeeping and fiscal prudence especially where the stadium redevelopments as well to take into account. All of this activity will leave Real Madrid with a much more healthy looking balance sheet of the end of this financial year. Right in time to move on, let's take a look at this weekend's opponents rail. Southie Adad. Ramat I've been the season with a tough trip today to rally. Ended the season down in sixth place. In Lalita, they didn't merchantable lockdown to well though they lost for the first five games back only want twice in the final eleven games of the season which included, of course, the two one V two rail Madrid Ramos Benza. Goals on that day, very close game that you might recall possession marginally in southern Dad's favor both created ten chances as well on the day. But back in February they did shock Real Madrid in the quarter-finals of the Cup of Del. Rey winning by four goals to three in a game that was memorable to all seven goals came in the second half and they also had time right at the end of the game to end with ten men and uneager garage about was central right on fulltime the second yellow card. Now, the other league game last season gang good stop by South Asia. With the opening goal two minutes betrayed though hit back with three goals and Benza. and Luca moderate. What about? The overall in the last twelve months while the kept seven clean sheets in twenty two. They scored in every game bar to against Celta Vigo and severe. Those were both in the final month of the season as well. Six teams one here on the course of the season, as well as revenue its way formulas just four Vanity Battista, and May Yorker in Lalita where PSG in. League rural. Then this is the one hundred, fifty, hundred meeting between Rao Madrid and south they adapt Madrid of eighty five wins to thirty four Southie Dad they have actually won three of the last five meetings. If you include that Cup game in January twenty, nine, nine, they also one here two goals to nil grows am fodder with the goals on that day. So Larry was the man in charge the only other win for Southie a data in Madrid this millennium was another big one Nike May of two, thousand and four they won four one three up on the half hour that day. Look out for then twenty three year old Spanish International Meka good season. Last year he contributed eleven assists the only warning to double figures ahead of the belt. He also waiting with ten goals as well, which was just one behind the top scorer with the End Jersey. who had a short period remember Madrid back in two thousand, thirteen, fourteen it was his first ever club in Europe arriving on the back of a Loner Santos he started with the. Team. He made an incredible impression. He was sent off twice in his opening seven games as well as scoring a hatchet and his debut was in the couple of del Rey final when Ramadorai beat Barcelona to. Played One game after that against soda before leaving for Zada. Gotha is NEC's go. Will be his fiftieth pretty beginning tomorrow because he tested positive for Corona Virus, which leaves twenty year old Swedish for Alex. Rather, Rothwell, in his first season is next goal to be as tenth goals. Since he arrived from Venom trae where he was on loan, the will pose a significant threat. If indeed, he does play Portu, he's another one breath keeping an eye on as well. He played the full ninety in that one one draw against league game which they thought. Guy should have one. What is the mood like inside the Camp Debu Coo Trois who remember whereas the Number One Jersey for the first time in his club career has been talking about the mood of the kickoff e said, it's always a difficult game. This this is a really strong and well organized team. We though very eager to get going preseason as been short, but it's been very intense personally. He, said I feel great on the squad is in really good condition. We want to win everything that we're playing for this season is always the with Madrid nothing ever changes in this respect and look out on Sunday per day. Do It is the debut of their third kit that we playing in black shirts with pink and grey detail? Nicer shirt it is actually by the way. That is just about it. Then for today's round up be back early next week to review what's happened over the weekend in the meantime, do enjoy the match on Sunday. Thanks we company until next time for me Tim cable. Babo Fennell.

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Gab and Juls: Embarrassment at the Emirates

ESPN FC

1:00:37 hr | 11 months ago

Gab and Juls: Embarrassment at the Emirates

"You wouldn't settle for to star Spin class or personal trainer so why settle for a bank. That treats you like just another number ally knows you deserve better and their mission is to be just that with Alabang Yogi great interest rates and you can chat with real people twenty four seven and they won't hit you with those hidden and BS allies team actually cares about doing right by you and your money go to A. L. L. Y. Dot Com for more ally bank member. FDIC I see all yes. It's that time again. It's the Gavin Jewish show except this week with a twist. Julian Lawrence is away on assignment so we went to get the guy who's kind of like Futures Julien laurens demand. Who if you go back through? Dion also looked a lot like jewelry lawrence when he was age. And this is what you like in the future. Here's ROB said that's a blow for him. He's he's he's got good hair isn't he. Oh yes they all think they have good hair when there is age. Just you wait just you wait Robbo Thanks for coming on. We're GONNA LOOK WE'RE GONNA have a big Spanish any segment. We have slow on this week. Clinton Real Madrid barshop with a view towards the couple of good games as well. I know you're hyped and pumped an amped because most of your heroes. I don't appear on stamps but we're going to start off first of all when it'd be very clear hear about this. You are not allowed to mention the former arsenal manager in the two managers ago. Okay so can you. We can mention the guy before. I want to see if you can get through an arsenal discussion without bringing them up. Okay are this was A.. Pasting Yup that first half really actually. The whole game looked at me like city. I know people say. Oh the crash-bang-wallop primarily they never take the foot off the gas. I I thought from the moment I thought in the second half I thought city were just like okay. Let's not let's not be mean here and I also thought see arsenal except for that Martinelli. Chance on from that point on it was it was a shambles. Am I being harsh. No you don't being hush And I thought it was coming because I'd I been to liaise to watch against Standard Liege. Where the game plan? I couldn't see what the game plan was conceived. We're going to get the ball from back to from They couldn't defend sense here. You're talking about a Europa League game is still menacing. Qualified is still many of the same. Plus you still have a game plan. Freddie Ljungberg UGH got so as the as the coach get some continuity getty's ideas across and the game plan against Standard Liege was absolutely and I couldn't see how that was going to change orange. Come the game against man. City didn't change both with the ball and without the ball and Man City of despite given an early chance against Martinelli were never really under that much pressure and when they had the boy easy for them to to the game plan in sums of so. Let's think Friday okay so he's got doozy Lucas Torrero. Forget about four Yup. So I'm assuming part of the ideas to take her back to what he it wasn't some kind of stop being for a while which is more of a deep lying playmaking tidy passerini type so that is forcing Debrecen and Foden To vote into to chase him a little bit and that's the idea and then breaks forward and then you've got you know the freshness of Martinelli he doesn't pace and trickery of and and you've got creativity you've got the drive of and creativity of uh individual. Guess what you've got a wonderful cake but what I'm talking about is when they play it from the back the to center midfield players get in the way when The senator got the ball and they're looking to play. Because that's what you play it from the back to get better quality into your front blessed to create avenues so you can roll the ball into your center forward so you can robos into your y plays and they don't create that spice so when you're coaching a team you you go through the the the housing patterns this is our patterns of play. This is how we're going to get into the trump someplace that obviously hasn't made any of that work down because they couldn't there's no why they could get the board into the front pleasure then he's sort of len planes in Midfield Man City can close them down they go back right to the standoff. The kicks it long. No idea what they're trying to show my combined eleven for this game As you know they they love having students. I don't think it ever. Actually it. Actually aired but I think I might have had to arsenal players In this is only among players were available okay accepts having dimension would be one of them now it wasn't wasn't Or might have been I I go yeah no I think it was. I think it was a Obama. Young and The other one was so cannot because actually like them I think there's a cohort of people who don't particularly pay attention and don't seem to understand that defenders endure impacted by what happens around them more so than any other position on on on the page especially centrebacks. I'd also let's face it. You know city headstones and Fernandina Otamendi Sagnier nothing to write home about But I'd much as I love talking about this and indeed calum chambers. Why why are they involved in the build-up when time and again it seems to be problematic especially against Striker like Gabriel's Zeus. Who does a lot lot of running around and in does press the ball perhaps a lot more energy? And that's again what we're talking about is when you know. I've played on the coach. He's the of tried the plan from the back and the ones that do well. They are the coaches that. Say This is how we're GONNA platform that. This is how we're GONNA get the ball you look and you know he's making the rounds and when you're creating space to play the next that's not happening. Also that's why Man City or the have been made mistakes in recent times but they've been the best thing plan out from the Baptist there's Pep Guardiola gets the movie. That's why fullbacks come into play into midfield. So they open up channels for the ball to go out to the wind players. That's why they suck people on and then then front three get their movements movement. So they so. Edison knows as soon as it comes to me. That's where I'm GonNa play because they practiced it and the coach gives them the ideas off. No they haven't had those ideas so it's almost impossible for callum chambers in socrates too Platt from the back with any sort of composure and quality to what degree do optics coming to signal. Chew things that have nothing nothing to do with the actual game drinks upticks. I no no no one. Is this guy soccer when he comes on. I think they scored while soccer's it's yes well freaking. I know you're GonNa go old school right now. I'm I'm sure he doesn't address himself arsenal but what the hell was up with that. Did you see that. He's like removing hundreds of layers putting hundreds of layers back on. Why did you do that at this point? I don't know why but I'm having a go at hand. Everybody does it as a coach or a manager or the the the fitness guy or the manager. They she's he's I if you'll the sub you should have your penzone bed zone. You should have your show. You can have lots allies on top. Now you'll needed get off. Get that off. It can only take you to get a couple. Let's take you thirty seconds at the most funny was a weird day it happens. You're hoping is I feel bad about. It's obviously not his fault. It's obviously somebody L.. They should be ready to go on the field whenever elster. What about ozone who doesn't have the excuse of being done Is He's walking off. The pitch booed dude. We've seen this happen before with Granite Chaka He throws just gloves. I'm in two minds about this. I think you always have a right Tabu. I know I know you being mean of a pocket beyond the team Os. Obvious is this has been ongoing and stuff like that but at what point do you cut. Your losses is on ozone. Well what point do you say that we know you have an enormous contract. We're stuck on you forever. You don't WanNA leave. Nobody wants to sign you. But let's figure out a way of playing that does not does not involve you because you're not going to be much longer we're gonNA be rebuilding anyway. you're not gonNA have the marginal gains Ainsworth you in there What what should happen now? I think it should have did happen within the start of the season and then because they were losing that to bring him back into the side and they said well if you go flair that quality you need to blame. The manager sometimes has to make decisions and if you don't fence here as well because he can't do certain aspects of the game and he's not playing with enough endeavor and he's not working hard defensively. It's just you don't have to be a player's GonNa Chase back and run all over the field but you need to do some sort of defensive jobs. In the way of the opposition bloc bowls being played into midfield filled going. Close the Baltimore. It's near when you lose position when it back quickly you have to do that as a full. There's no such thing as an attacking planet if you have to be an all round football these days to play in the premier any other toppling in Europe. And who doesn't do that so in the end the manages always looking at and thinking he should have done this. You should have done that and he gets frustrated. Don't blame younger forgiving missile ago. Doing no he. Now that you've gone 'cause I'm paper you figure I've got these new very quick geyser and COMPLA- first time pass with accuracy. Hey makes sense. Let's create a game plan focused around now that you've done that now that it's not working. Should you move on. Unfortunately I'm not sure he's got the players to be able to move on from other due to midfield matter if it was me would be nowhere near the team. Because I don't think he's contributes enough. He's not effective enough Yes he's been a great passer of the board over Several years but now he actually slows also play those one touch parties quite as much as he used nice to each slows everything down and then when he's in possession also So easy to play through and that's one of the problems last arsenal question before we just because we don't wasn't a drowning negatively Nicholas Buffet now If you look at Lille the way he was used he started. Why but pays actually a really really good finisher so yep he was encouraged to come inside and shoot and so on numerous and really playing as a as a winger as well? I don't see that at Arsenal I mean it was all great. Finish in in was in midweek yet How do you get him to do more of that? Sa- ah when he thought EMORY remedy mentioned. The previous Monday revolt him to play in a very similar way to the the most place for Liverpool you know because he loves what it made sense that because he's not a wide player and he plays through the inside right position on these left-foot cuts in and I thought that's the way I know we're GONNA play. They would play him down one side Obama gang down the other side plenty of food and upfront looked fearsome from three. And that's the way that we're GONNA play. But simply because they've all got as they can play on the counter-attack and play exactly the way Liverpool play in the front areas but he was employed as a wide player where he has to go taper when he's losing possession he's losing possession imbed areas. He's got so he's GonNa have to run sixty yards with the boat to things at times. He also has an attacking full-back right behind him whether it's Niles or so that puts even more pressure which he didn't have at Lille no but I just I think it's the right situation for him would apply in exactly the same role that Salad Place for Liverpool or money down the other side in that would have been bombing suits imperfectly. Really as you said. He played up front at times for Lily. He can go wide but doesn't really want to be what he wants to come in. And he's left foot inside. Roy is the physician in in a front three. Did you know that he he played goalkeeper until he was thirteen years old. No I didn't know there. You go find facts that you learn on the Gab. Jewish podcast now A City I look. We don't want to be negative Kevin to Brian had an absolutely monstrous game. Not just him Obviously he missed big chunks of last season is he back at the level. He was two years ago. I would say he's the best bowling world football. There's no question about he sees things other. People can't sees the technique to deliver those passes. He's a join a watch. He can score goals. He's assists must be Magnificent over the the the the time is being manned city did you like that. Where William starting wide I mean I'm wondering I'm wondering because everybody seems to forgotten Leroy? Sonic I think actually that was pretty important because that had a big knock on effect in the sense is that without without signing your wide man. Rotation goes down to you know sterling Marlin's Bernardo Silva Bernardo Silva good is as he's playing wide right. He can't play centrally at the same time. which in turn means David Silva and Kgab Ryan get more minutes and more wear and tear? Is this something else than than we might see more of undergone undergone or foden central that rotation and. Maybe Brian occasionally wide and and the great thing about the drawing is the when Guardiola wants to change the tactics. The play he uses uses to change the tactics is because he complained so many visits but even in in in a in one game you might play three different positions. Says we're not getting any spice vice here. Go and play out on the right wing. Maybe Bernardo silver credits. He won against their fullback because he's got that quality to do so he's got a great understanding of positional plays the technique technique to carry out all the things that you won't do what he can see in his mind. He's a world-class Blah pep said They played better against united and the game that they lost at home. Then he did in this game. It's the did you knows. Get a little longer more. Do you know why two parts of the game you have to defend as well as attack if you have attacked against mentioned. But they didn't defend well enough in the first twenty twenty five minutes. I don't know I could see what he was coming for. I can see where he's coming from. A final thought on Arsenal just got a negative note. If you were Josh Kanchi you'd be the heir to an enormous fortune and you probably wouldn't be talking to me but just not thank you when you review where you are going forward do you also review Rowson. Yeah he has rousing his position. And I do's position as well absolutely you know they've got to make sure they know exactly what everybody's doing they're gonNa make sure that they made the right decisions. Signings and the savvy lease. Yeah I mean one obviously stands out. Julian told us that they had a bunch of other targets. Who fell through for whatever reason but great but part of your job is to deliver your targets? And they haven't done that. I mean you have to be slighted. Because at the beginning of the season was sent down their business and what they've done they've been at the best transfer window inevitable and shame. Now shows Laura all this one. You'll partnering crunch giving him a hard enough time about the IMF of your negatively on Arsenal stuey Let's talk about the classic on Wednesday and let's talk about the two big games that happened this weekend and We're joined by silo on this one. said Dexter coming on board. Let's talk on Saturday night against it finished to to. I always thought this was a good game. And I thought it was kind of interesting to the Barcelona's owners to best performers Teigen and messy had a pretty quiet game. Yeah Yeah I think you're right you know and not just a quiet game and I think certainly yeah exactly. I think if you look at the second row so I think he's been questioned. Second on it. I think Messi really struggled games. He's got you know this is messy will ever and they had to buy a game played out provide this show So so you know even in the game as a big influence. Those to those who really weren't very good Boffa really struggled. I think a lot this year you know with women seem pressing very high the question off the Pos always. How long can you keep that up for the ninety minute? She gets to wins and seven for La at this point petering Allenby regression to mean. You can leave. All of us heartbroken here and now. I don't think it's quite that I mean there's there's a there's a small element of five things. I think I think that the circumstantial reasons some of these results. I think he'd be watching them slightest still probably the the most enjoyable important and I know that something that you Champions League I mean look the the proof of that is a full. And that's certainly not the most enjoyable to watch but have very very good and they really could genuinely compete with that. I still think if that all are really really good thing there are very young thing as well And I guess that will probably play a part in this book but now this is this is through tutorials author often when the manager put it right off the guy and he said you know we really go but we could only throw with author and that tells you something about the kind. Ah Now when I'm watching the game said I'm not quite sure what Barcelona and now trying to do there. They used to be a position. They wanted dip controlled possession. Now they want to do it with their policy and still but when you look at the stats real associated had more of the ball chances. The one thing that Barcelona aren't doing particularly well is closing down on winning new back quickly enough. Would that be true. Yeah no I mean look I mean this is a big buy in finding that she has been for a long time. He's about BUFFA. I didn't see and kind of losing that sense of what they are and in particular about let him salutes. There's a lot of people who absolutely hate bow because they are not just as a manager who lost aroma unlawful Liverpool. Because after if you like to start but managed you lost what they are. Look there since I think this is a full time but by I bet a has had a guy on the ability of how the game where they haven't had more fix possession actually full is quite a law when you remember boss under winning a riot cows does. He is the first time in eight years. They haven't had more than fix division so is quite a lot and as you say the thing. That fracking qualify. They want they did but then maybe he never fullwood. Louis Yeah. I'm not fuss by the lack of press and this whole thing I mean th. There's a time and a place to do it. You need to players to do it. I'm more encouraged. By the fact that Greece mine is growing That is up and down but he looks to have his game face on and I thought jerk. PK played really. Well actually an has done. Yeah you know I was really really good. uh-huh actually really necessary as well and I sat in front of me by. I'll be willing to bet in that. First Half Allah. There's at least three four times when you go into the ground making really important cycles of really really important blocks Cutting out crosses is one of those guys. I saw that you get to and in that first half an hour when an obviously being citing the increases may be exaggerate the fence that Ralph Cohen coming and kept on coming in Boston with totally overwhelmed and it was on his own withholding them together for that I I I mean I'm what about the oil and he's performance at the moment do you think he's settling into the side. You think the game is being played. Bits Foxman let me slows down at times. I oversight. Well it's about the damn excited. They whether whether the young is signed off on or actually every foster that going well you know he plays a great and some of the others in the movement of the board and how quickly gets across the page and how much the pitchy covers. But that you feel that then slows things down. And he's kind of being drawn on into that and I I think I think that's quite the questions that he's down oriented the upper y round And you know this is the hall of this whole founded by about Boston is it. This is supposed to be identified by. Its midfield on a cool sold now. It's not clear. Exactly what about back midfielders reconcile and play diabate now also Outside of Dallas played in a lot of get very angry about that. But I think you know if you if you said your hair and I'll I'll sort of people wouldn't see. The image is so radically radically known buffalo. I I really think that they kind of look at them and he can look at him. He looks not he's apple about when in fact we're going to talk about about things like pricing on the intention usable. He has some of those qualities. Abbas done on the guy who bites eight people is legitimate Barcelona People Barcelona player right so yeah let's not be. Let's not some of the Dallas hair. Well I mean it. Have you seen that by the white have you seen. The footage of a little kid has been a couple of weeks ago now. Ninety strong very very good isn't it. I mean I I would. I must confess frightening the talk Sunday. Valencia against Real Madrid. We really curious to see. How did you finished a one? One draw late equaliser Komo Madrid. I was really curious to see with a view towards classical. All right what sedan GONNA do. How's he gonna mix things up Gareth Bale on the bench? He ended up dropping dropping CASA. MITO and I'd love to know whether he's being rested ahead of the classic go and if so what the impact is and and playing the system which is almost like like a diamond was East Cohen. Moderate sort of creating involved in front of the back four. What'd you make it i? Do we read anything into that. Yeah I mean the CATHARINA. Why is very simple simple? which is a Kashmiri's on four yellow cards and he didn't want to risk getting the fifth and the suspension of missing class? That tells you that tells you a hundred percent. He plays the plastic traffic. So it was not much arrest as a precaution. You right you got. Does that mean my man but does not that means that customarily plays a plastic. Oh this is my guest right. Joel Casamayor replacing classic cruise plays the classic. Oh and I suspect one all martyrdom of other classic and then he'll put another midfielder and now the question there is either of monitoring for across the middle. Does he try and try. Try and kind of often placing that although the apple my case go so that you go back to that slot the diamond shape. You're talking about your own. Almost their four three one to Sedan is curious the way these are backing because he's goes position doesn't naturally exist in Madrid statements when he plays he's behind the force but then he'll go wide a bit then. I try and get in the midst of it and I personally think it's go get it wrong. Even though he's eight very good flag at the wrong when he comes through from wants to be too involved but yeah yesterday was curious. The picnic thing that was I was really struggling with how high motorist by walking with your diamond thing. It was more squared and a diamond to and to but it but it also meant the stem the left hand side net show was in incredibly advanced positions. He was one of their out boys and he was getting lots of crosses into the box. Sure match the play in that position. He now he's definitely not bow cool yet. At least they they had very little choice. They had five million and and Ma settle out the the choice really was doing that show Middletown. The theory actually originally was going to be many times because he's a little bit stronger. That little bit more aggressive matches being injured not quite a lot as an apple but not by them before and it doesn't look like a quick look at that guys Natalie. Lucky very very quick. Quite good Yes yeah yeah absolutely no not to roll that we had before and so given how he paid you the eight. I wouldn't be surprised to see him. Get the saw in the class go. Now I saw Valencia tied up in knots for long stretches especially In the second half earlier on like one of those Games where Rama Dre if i John Dominic made a great save from Tony Cross. I think it was and then another one but it felt as if Rao Madrid. The their heads are numbered in the second half. I don't know you tell me was it. Valencia kicking it up an aunt or was it. Yeah Autumn which is thought with really really good and they've had fought six shot inside ten or fifteen minutes they they could be dominated positioning. It was a moment in the first talk. When when Messiah side I I wouldn't call it whistling in the sense of you? Know in the Gareth file and there was this kind of whistling of frustration whistling of fear. Right this largest completely overwhelming now almost precisely the point when that happened which is about twenty five minutes in was the moment took a step up now. I don't think I'd go so far tape. Length did took control in the first half or things like I'm back into the second off that can keep it felt like this was the moment of the teams that kind of defined by suplies for as long suspends them all the outstanding player on the pitch. It was Madrid leaving the game. And then when Donnie Darko saw gang holds a guy in particular very very and so to take you back to your question about customers a lot of the question what was done was we get. You didn't WanNa read customer. But the point in which you were risking the game. It was his case. You will you not. I'm to put him on. Because it's all well and good protecting for the Classic Code if you get the Messiah you still drop three point Off In the end they away of it but yeah I thought blenders that is responsible for ten minutes with ten minutes to fall. They were accurate window. The two games. When I'm watching the Games I would still say Rao? Madrid's it's performance at. Valencia was better than Barcelona's associated. That's a yeah I'd agree with you and you look at Boston as the former now. Obviously Look Matthew big kind of flashing caveat the ALA areas but the class goes to the camp note. But you look at performance of why this season and they've largely been awful and I think that's continuously the case and yeah. I think it will come through this and feel like they. Yes they could have lost. Yes they call. Saddam called jewelry. They deserve and they would have wanted more. I think you're right. I think the within the kind of the emotional impact of this is probably much against the KLAPKA feeling. Pretty good not least because not if you get a drawer Wi fi reasonably wealth. The property five minutes the guy makes the whole game but then of course you get that laughing equalised which gives you a huge boost stewart. I WANNA drive my question you because obviously the equalizer for those who haven't seen it comes off a corner kick Tibo courtois is up. He jump see heads the ball down garage Kinda just loses loses his marbles and the ballpark's Benza. My who's very quick and captain I can put into the roof of the net. But here's my question when you have a guy like Tibo bill courtois and this might be way too far out of the box and this Giving your old school this will upset you but if I have a Doodoo six foot six six foot seven a guy who you can I mean he. He's like a kangaroo right jump anyway wants right. He's an incredible athlete. I'm wondering what what if teams didn't use this. Just like a last ditch resort to send the goalkeeper up. If you have a courtrai. Wouldn't WANNA do Jordan Pickford Is it something that will wreak havoc everybody on the other end freaks out and if if the goal keep became a good header of the pulpit after president. There's another technique and hitting the ball. You still gotta get Simon at the jumped. Seventy differences did that though on that occasion. But how many times have you seen goalkeepers go up. They get nowhere near like commits a foul. Then then they get nowhere near the bowl. They don't Eh you well if I do get the head on it if you learn how to mix things out if you could learn and you and it became a single take free-kicks and do very well. I'm sure it could be used. But he'd have to be absolutely outstanding because the risk would far outweigh the advantages. Said you on board with this. There's a there's a couple of you know there are a couple of things. Well I think I think there are three things that were said last night which fade into this right. In terms of the usefulness of twelve been this number one is cool to himself and he says look unto maintenance told a when I go up if pregnancy. You know when you think about not they get worried about crime and simple England and all the time. He came off the bench. I took you guys forever to learn this. But every team in in the world including Germany all of a sudden their pants because the giant was coming off the bench. Yeah Yeah on Minimu- truth in that and I think that's about all I cool for this type sauce. Ponder on very well clearly is very good judging that crosses coming and he says well off the game that he knew what Khanna's delivery Tony Cruz was gonNA put in so that that's one thing two other elements that go with it. One is himself. which is I often off the game? You know what what did you think when cool twelve went up and obviously it was his idea so overseas you something. There's no plan as such but still plan because I love this quote unquote for the game. He said He said also they schooled. I was standing there in the goal thinking about south. This is slipping away from us. All we can do now is keep stocking becomes and hope that the corner in the ninety minutes. Exactly what happened now. Now the on the on the final quote foot is called himself colorful at the Valencia midfielder. Who says off the game when he goes up because he doesn't have Mauka now? We're not set up tomorrow. Plan because authorized offensive operations are not designed to kind of being kept in Volk having a an an attacking golden in the penalty area. I think you can add to that. A couple of other things look at the players that are involved in the move supposedly jumps from his Jeffrey Bill. Come on as the light subcommittee. He doesn't have a clear sense of to reach reviver. The ball drops I think between garage and I think by Echo and by echo come on as a light subs wealth heat up and how to play offense of guiding full they spend on Ebay as an extra defender so the whole defensive structure is thought he changed. I'm I think he can go building the corner. Look at those last five minutes. So March happened from the moment the board went up the end of the game. I mean too much much too much happened. I don't think that because the holding The kind of broken. The Game Six windchill the schools to go that allowed has he schools that goal eighteen. The second should've wanted at the other end having had the chance to win. Oma immediate need an older almost immediately in a position where where they're gonNA see the Gulf. I it's just a broken just made another point very good point co often. I think it's a mistake to put substitutes on when you're winning the game but sequin in defensive positions because there's only one thing that can happen they don't get tuned to the pace of the game. Yes you and Duncan Ferguson. View at the same way. Take off a striker. Sent on another striker said thank you so much I enjoy the classic. Oh I know I will a little bonus on this Monday. Let's Talk Champions League round of sixteen draw lots of themes. Let's let's start right at the top Borussia Dortmund against essentially we'll be asked to make a prediction as well Robert so are you on your thoughts. I think it's a fairly good draw for. ps Gee I think they'll have too much for Dortmund yes don't Wanna a AH decent season but over the two legs are think. PSG will have too much and therefore we'll go through with you on that a bit of a revival thing under Lucic well he was going to get sacked not that long ago. But Hey he's still in charge next up against Valencia better contrast in styles here ear which which which I kind of kind of love Do you know offensive Atalanta alike. Their star football the threat the wingback toy up the field the old when illegit planet. He's he's he's the Creator along with Gomez's So other guy for them and I don't think that Valencia that the good aside Yes they did one group to to top IT. But I'm going to go with Atalanta and that would be a great tale. You turned on. Its head here. More Defensive Defensive Spanish signed versus the more attacking tyneside definitely one To to watch But I'm GonNa Lean Valencia on this is one Athletico Madrid against the holders Liverpool. We're talking contrast in styles I know he's trying to evolve them. Njit two point. Oh but to knock out game so we're still going to see old school athletic director and that problem scoring goals this season even though they bought in jail. Alex who is GonNa then they wanted to play up front Diego Kostov as he got injured meritas back to somewhere near his best. But I would say over the two legs Liverpool the poll with that counterattacking pace and their ability to dominate midfield. I'M GONNA go with liver portal in this. You're giving Liverpool's lead in in the table unless something happens between now and then it's so we are talking about matches that are what six weeks away But you assume they can prepare properly overly free up so I'm with you on that ongoing Liverpool Chelsea against Byron Munich. Well I mean if I'm one in the Champions League but not so well in the league they're starting to hit a bit of form Chelsea Gone the other way the of frank again main critical of lucrative Franklin part may be the he refreshes the sides somewhat. But I'M GONNA go with by Munich to win this survey experience. I think they'll have too much for Chelsea and I think Chelsea on a downward slide at the moment again. It's tricky game so far in the future I think Lucas Hernandez should be back for this. which is a big boost because buying a serious defensive issues at the back of is he still no Nicholas Zulu curious to see if they move for a defender in January? If they don't I'm I'M GONNA go Chelsea and Olympique Lyonnais against You Venice Short trip for them Obviously Cristiano Renaldo was brought in to win the Champions League. Your art being disappointed with adventists on the Sarah even though they are a joint top of Syria at the moment but I love the combination that are sold at the weekend with Rinaldo and he even plane quite quite far apart as the center forwards and develop lining behind and. I think that can move forward. I know there's a problem some might say defensively but I'm not sure that develops any worse than on a discount plan is the is the player in that number ten roads. So I'M GONNA go with events to be Leon who are inconsistent. Yeah I gotta go with you over. Leon Especially now with With Memphis of course being injured contrast in styles. I taught him hotspur against causing Bosch fought each year NOG on their top of the table in Germany they played a million miles an hour Against the Guy I who knows his way around the Champions League yes but I wouldn't say he's stuck his stamp on a stamp on spurs just yet because spurs are still some mm some good attacking football look more breaking Ford's some breaking forward kind and allies somewhere near his best but I'm not sure it'd be too happy with the defensive side of the game and ah right back with Orient Right back. They're vulnerable so if they play their very best. I'm going to go with the Leipzig in this. Is I think I hate saying this. If we very rarely hear me say this but I think experience does matter and I think Lipsey are there single-mindedly focused on on on the Bundesliga this year. I think you saw it in to where they were very much up and down up and the game. So I'm GonNa Lean Marino and Spurs Napoli against Barcelona Reno got does not only against Barcelona and no I've a check I don't think they can bring back on Schlocky just for the Champions League so Robbo They're the only team to have beaten Corinthians of Europe how stack up against messy war. ANCELOTTI did brilliantly in the two games in terms of organizing the that was one the criticism probably people ahead of him. That he didn't organize some of the Mundane Games in Syria. Because those games against of these tactics absolutely right in new he he. He was expecting from Liverpool and defensively. They were really good and they coups Liverpool program harder to know what to expect when you're playing for your now messy right exactly and and Barcelona he's GonNa cut in from the wing wing income inside and shoot the problem. I wouldn't say that Barcelona of dominated possession like they normally do so. I don't think that Napoli frightened of them but Netflix will have to be at their best. If that's Bacelona from Barcelona to win it and we can have a very special employed by totally reading. The game has happened the last two years but yeah logic not at this stage around sixteen ongoing Barcelona and finally row Madrid against Manchester City. Pep taking on the old enemy But Row Madrid or title race. Manchester City are not. We don't expect them to be by the time that rolls goals around. But we do expect a glare to fit maybe the part may be signing. It could be a different city. I I'm going city. I like going against against Rao Madrid in the Champions League because of their history and whatever else but this Manchester City team I i. I think they're really good. And if I was a coach coach playing against any other side I wouldn't have great fear. There's ways you could stop them. Playing the one thing that I would always feel if I was a coach would be pep guardiola aside aside and this man's to decide on the day when he gets everything right continue apart. So I'm with you. I'm going to go from Manchester City to be Real Madrid but that's only reports back. Can we I'M GONNA put that little rider. I'm GONNA say that Really Stones Fernandino back there against a mighty Kareem Mendaille and I wouldn't play stone on stones will be no India or whatever against the mighty Kareem. I'm still gunman city all right time. I'll tell champions draw. Ties are in February. So you got a a lot of time to think about it and remember every. Don't give us a hard time about our predictions because between now and then everything could change. I know for this now. Let's go for some quing. Hits Robbo you know the drill. You been doing these for years. Liberal be WOFFORD and that means they've won twenty five of their last twenty six premier league matches as long as Zeno face a team management Carlo. Just Fine Robbo. You'll tell me all is well and it's the right mindset to set off to the club World Cup rate. Es a little the poll crash with that performance performance at the moment Liverpool. I think I've got one or two issues. Defensively they're trying to hold so high line and the to send arms aren't reading danger. Alexander Arnold's is being taken on thought to easily and not a good defensive player a damn thing but that's the negative side far out is far outweighed by the positive every every time the bright or they get the boards of front areas. It looks are they going to score so if you can defend that little bit better and carry on doing the things they do in the front areas. There's every chance the gum when everything at the moment who's the most irreplaceable player for Liverpool. I'll change my mind. Set Van Dyke back in the day Alexander Arnold Right. No I'm going to say that's Mona is the place that just gives them that edge when they counterattacked. The he's he's moving he's stall play a night club to play the game he wants to play. I'm goal exander Arnold Okay event iskoe joints off in Syria based new tonight. He three one is Cristiano. Renaldo bags to goes got we saw DEBA- ORLA guerin Rinaldo Plaza from three hour. We're GONNA see more because they played well together. I think we will see more from them. We we just sort of foreshadowed in the by Labour cruising game remember. KNBR was sort of the perfect live for society because the dead Robert for them. Not a dead rubber for a Labor Kuzin and and we saw them and then we saw this again. Now you don't get the play every week. They were fantastic debate. I I saw the match all with the two golden by the way sixteen seasons is in double figures for Cristiano Renaldo. These movement three second goal was magnificent. Brotherly album that egg-laying past Jonah renowned. He's he's a number ten. You miss this calling That said I think to play those three. You need to have a very stable midfield which is something that that they don't have you know apart from panic it's kind of been revolving doors. I ideally you'd want panic majority and one other guy you can say all right you guys are GonNa play all all the big matches and then you can start thinking about this. There's this run three. I think it's something to use certain games. But I don't think he's at the stage of the game magnificent absolutely absolutely and they rotated positions quite quite often and Ebola for the first call made the full run through the Center for physician. We're now backing up and go straightaway. Yeah question is could they do this this against a team. That's not the mother baby babies. You know. I mean because that's the reality right now for me now. They're still forced because so many other primarily teams are awful but after losing to bore warmest who had themselves lost five in a row Chelsea of now one one out of five in the League some of the Sheen wearing off. Frank Lampard Juniors Halo I would say so. I was never a great champion of him when he was at Dhabi. Did a decent job without doing a great job all the great champion of Franklin part because was on not in terms of the play. Yes as a coach I think he got loaded. Forty did it Darby when every other manager done exactly the same and got sacked Dhabi for doing that. He can't shows at the right time because they didn't transfer bans. We could put all these young players in the place excellent football. He's still doing. The thing that Sarah was criticized for playing Sushi knows the holiday midfield player. But it's none of your. None of your people have noticed those all that army of Neanderthal Seoul Expo could defensive midfield all these morons don't realize no no no. No Gino cannot not defend. That's GONNA. They're not morons because they hold that position they're morons because they don't realize what you just said it is that he's doing the same thing in front of the body has come forward. Has this what he has done. But he's usually not oh to policy it forward more and more long but he's still defend. What does he do now? Because Mason Mount going through a rough patch again callum. Hudson Doi hasn't started already game in two months where the previous manager. We're still there. I think he would've been crucified right now. Trump into pieces and thrown into the Thames Wilson I'll do something announce your question the original one. Some of the. Shane has gone off of the empire. Taylor he's got a mix and match he's GonNa get the plays a plane informed getting them back in the side and he's going to make sure that he got his game plan right and they've got to be better defensively otherwise they could slip out thoughtful. I I wonder if maybe you don't try. Just give me a couple days off. Maybe go go with Hudson dogs. Police and William Stryker and a platform of two and just just try to a US pay because I I. I don't know I think this is the difficult. This is the really difficult part is mixing and matching. And you know after you stuck with a changing. Yeah so long now. Inside gave up to light late equaliser theory encinas one two kids Tucson lavish scoring the go and they dropped two points Gabes echoes of the defeats barcelona-based. That right yes that's right I. I don't know that we need to call them. Barcelona B when they bring on Frank de Dion Luis Suarez and event grease men starting think but hey fair enough. is obviously not full strength. Barcelona I think is very simple and you know this is one of those situations where actually as I said on the show last night both things can be right so it can be right that if Inter bury their chances early on against Barcelona and in this game against Fiorentina. We're not having having this conversation louder. Luca played a lot of games there. Finishing wasn't great in those games and as a result they don't have a big cushion late in the game the same time. It's also true. That the way interplay if you are going to go and not be pushed back and forced to defend unique. Did you go and play with more energy late in games and win the ball high of the page and really difficult to do that with Barco Vallejo. who was what feels like? He's forty years old and we know who's about as as as quick as the Duomo Milan. So you can't do that and and it's not making excuses but this will be a different situation with if especially with the magic united are held at home by Everton one Robbo. Is these last half full or half empty. While I'm sure also was big Donka bit harsher and Moist Cat Melissa off on social. I'm sure he always thinks he's glass. Is Half full but me being a misery guts. I'm going to say it's half empty. I'm to them because against Tottenham Against Manchester City. When they plan they cantered second for all the things that are they gonNA social? When I came in and they played that counterattacking football like rushland running marchisio running lingered running beyond now the James's well lots of pace? That's okay now when they play against teams that are sitting that little bit deepen. They've gotTA break them down. And when is the creativity. Creativity is in their most talented player. Not Mine that guy's been injured most of the season exactly so somebody's a another dynamic flab liberties not gonNA open up people with passing Fred's not going to open up people with partying so that's where he's got to try and improve even with Marcy and rash word and James. You still go to get some some clever play in and around the box if you're going to be every time that you play against when they come and sit old traffic all right. I'm going to describe the moist King Big Dunk situation and you can tell me as a coach somebody who's meeting there. He's done that for those. Who Don't know their seventy minutes to go there? Nursing a one zero lead at the time Yes right say twenty minutes ago so he makes a substitution `institution and he's got a ton of injuries. She does not have defensive players on the bench. He brings on moist. Ken Moist Keen as he's now known And after nineteen minutes in the eighty nine minute he takes moist keen off and he brings on another striker who Marnie us. Now I he said afterwards. Well there's nothing personal because I wanted to make time wasting substitution. So I took this guy off. I had to bring on another striker so I took I. So you know I was going to take a strike or off. Defender midfielder fair enough. Although a lot of people were did note that he didn't even look at him when he came off the pitch or or or say anything to him unlike say Marino or or Henderson when they meet substitution similar circumstances a brewing. Your KLOPP obviously I was surprised the number of experts who dared to buck the trend and go against big dunk and say what he did was wrong. Absolutely wrong. Absolutely wrong He wasn't happy with these performance in that he I think he suggests up to the speed of play but he's just really crucified. A young player apply that hasn't seen his best as Everton apply that needs premium around. He showed her needs a bit of encouragement. And Duncan Ferguson. I would say it was an easy decision by taking off a young striker Leica putting on another one and not messing with some of the more experienced players who he might upset or I think it's a poor decision and I'm not sure he's GonNa come back from it the way I I gotta say a because people said well but came keen was route. Was Rubber issues right off. If you're GonNa do that then own owning afterwards come out and say eh well. He wasn't doing what I wanted to do. But to go out and say what was nothing personal so on and then to blank. I'm like that. Obviously either he made a big mistake or he's got no no concept all psychot- because I said I'm just shocked it just so universal from X.. Frozen coaches like yourself. Just slamming Duncan Ferguson. For this I open it for me. Munching glad back full Wolfsburg to one as they can see too late when a Gab. Is this where they're taught to. Run begins to crumble much as it hurts. Maybe because I am the leader of the Marco Rosa Bandwagon Kind of think it did because this wasn't a game where where they had their chance. But Wilson plenty chances as well also not a pretty good team afterwards summer talking about well you know could have been a foul here. Could've been offside there but you know you give up a goal that late late and you you lose points and the pressure is on you. The context of this all the chasing pack Chic Dortmund by all playing the day before I wonder I mean I think the break can't come too soon for Mark Arosa. I think God I'm getting late. John for tongue in winner. Take all three points away to wolf. Which isn't bad considering that under under the previous manager they rarely on the road and now they've done it twice under Joseph Marino ask Marino himself helpfully pointed out? Are you ready to jump. On the Special Special Special One bandwagon rob always been uneasy California. We go bots This isn't a Josie Marina side. At the moment. This is still a lot of poetry. Serve to win not paying more for quite some way right what. I'm sayin' in with Spurs at the moment. He's he's allowing the creativity that was already there with the license. Lucas Mora and song run in alleys plan a bit better. And Canes overseer from he's trying to make them more solid in midfield but at the moment the hardest thing you have to do as a coach he's continued to place him attacking football and play with pace and all that stuff and then get the defensive offensive side of the game right and at the moment. Defensive Side of the game isn't right and that's what he's GonNa have to change if he wants to get into that top four play more defensive players five teams teams with six points. Near the top of Bundy's they all wanted the weekend except for glad back as you've already mentioned Gab. How is this going to come forward? I don't know but further neutral. It's fantastic. I mean you've got you've got buying Philip Chino Pie. Having his best game in a buying coming from the wing a hat trick. and Jesus live on Dos Q.. Scoring and then again Dortmund running riot that was against mine so you know take it with a grin Sol Life say they once elegance are joined US adrift. I thought this is going to be double figure scoreline nine when the early goal winning from Patrick Schick. No last but wasn't the greatest performance on them. I wonder if they're slowing down. A little bit perhaps slowing down physically which would be more than understandable coming up but they have the break coming up. Yeah and shock and also life's can go and spend money in the break and taking away that others other cannot And shocking Fokker Crook hang in there beating beating Frankfurt one now so. I think it's fantastic. I think this is really exciting and I'm sticking with my pick to win it livesey now. Basically a few days on this is a special request for our Producer Farrington who incidentally also would like to remind. Hi this that if you're in the US you can watch the area DVD ON ESPN plus. Yes we have the rights now and it's a few days I xe lose at home to Valencia and get themselves knocked out of the Champions League lose to alkmaar which means are now. Join Tom Rubio. Is this a blip whereas reality biting for Eric. Ten hot well the reality is Ten how is that. The scores probably isn't quite big enough for the guy had to play. Hustle are up front. Who now I can hardly move? So they're not gonNA play behind. Yeah I love the way the plays and the Tadic's play Don van debate just in behind them but if you got hustlers hunts allows the main strike when it's normally narrates playing the front. You're GonNa like that little bit of Pie and dynamism and the only slightly and the back No daily he was not available for the game and although people will question these defensive qualities he still inexperienced play read situations he can play out from the back so given that. I think that the ten. We'll get the team right again. They will still be tough of divinity. Come the end of the season. It's a major blit. They didn't get qualifying. The Champions League that was that was their major blip easy to forget that this time a year ago then where people calling for ten Hawk doc to be fired easy to think. Also forget that you know we were like. Oh Wow what a shock. I x out semi final answer. Yeah they're out they also lost Lhasa Surena Who was also important player for them? Plus linked plus ranking young. So I I don't know I. I think this is an losing your best place which delivered lose his not the second coming. Yeah I think the other point here. He's not some miracle man is wonderful is not even the beaches and whatever else you know days like this will happen but it's a tight race again in the Air Red Devi staying with Holland suit of Memphis defy engineers crucial liens home defeats Ren Gabe Izzy. If he's out of the euro's all the Dutch dumb for I don't want to write anybody off 'cause the petition but Yeah it's a massive blow dry for me is back to the level. He was APP or Org joining Tim Allen Green I didn't going off the rails Two seasons goes up sleep phenomenal last year. He was still pretty good this year. He was on top of things again scoring a ton of goals for not particularly good. Leon side I think he carries the attacking for Holland and Yeah maybe this guy boy dues ready legs eighteen eighteen years old. They're certainly not shy about charging kids. But it's a horrible blow for Memphis and he also plays that centerfold row in a slightly different way to others would drop steep. He goes is that why people might run beyond. Its their style of play. That is a key to what he does I mean to go paraphrase you know. RV D. he's the whole Athen Hyphen show users. Napoli lose at home on his debut falling to one department Robbo weirdly. He wasn't an instant fix was he. Now he wasn't they they did dominate the game. They had something like thirty or shots so they didn't take their chances It's not going to be an instant fixed. Because don't these a settled side at the moment it was a et Cetera. Side at one point Co home back into the side where and she left him out for a while as well forty five minutes milic played upfront. Napoli still have some good players They've just lost their way slightly. The obviously lost their way with the club owners will Napoli. We will end the season quite well. But then they're going to struggle to get into the top three. I think it might also four because they're inconsistent and they were winning games at my. That's the whole readings things brought in ugly story from the Spanish Second Division. The referee applies the protocol and the match between Alba say and Rayo Vallecano is abandoned after Ukrainian cranium striker Roman Zulia is abused by the RYO fans gap. What's your take on this? Yeah what's unusual here Is is the way that the protocol was applied who's pretty much Unprecedented Romans Leah. wasn't racially abuse. View wasn't homophobic abuse wasn't religious or ethnic or sectarian abuse He was being he was being called. a Nazi Because he supposedly has right wing leanings. Although he's denied being a Nazi in the past now look it's it's the football match people. Shout shout. Insults historically Ryo have have a left-wing fan base. There was a it was In February of two years ago rial actually signs and the rial ultras were so upset with this because of his politics that Eventually rise it. Okay fine we signed. We're not GONNA play him. which meant he had to sit out effectively four months because it was a it was a loan signing? Couldn't go back to his team because the paper gone through. Whatever I'm It is it is a curious one because I said we haven't seen this before now. The Spanish league is come out saying that that they back Does it they back the decision to To to to suspend the game or to abandon the game are apparently to WANNA keep playing. I was Neil Neil and you had a man sent off offense at that point It was half time I think this opens a can of worms because obviously your political thought. Whatever that may be he is a choice? The other thing that people get racially abused for like their ethnicity on or their race or their sexuality is not so it's An An and so. You've set a precedent where the next time round is. There's anything political coming up or or whatever else Theoretically you take the same step and of course we have a we have a A classic coming up at the camp now Barcelona versus Madrid which is incredibly loaded With with with political meaning so I think they've kind of painted themselves into a corner a little bit here. I mean I don't know I people shout things all the time and we've we've agreed or generally. The the societal standard has been right now. These things are out of bounds sexuality ethnicity to bring it further. I'm not a hundred percent. Sure I'm comfortable with this unless we're prepared to do this consistently and as you know full well. People shout all sorts of things. UH-HUH AH Games. I certainly do. Did you get abused for being bald. No when I was I had when I was playing it was only in the last days. Yes of abuse and also went to public school which got unloaded abuse at the time. Probably Scoop if in America that means something different but it's a it's a private school posco. Yes and I got a lot of us when I first started playing because of that because it was highlighted in the papers and they always put me in a boater and a scarf when they have they pictures in the paper and fans took exception to that just to clarify the school. You went to was not eaten so you weren't wearing a top hat and tails some stop frame and no but we just before I got there. They still have to wear boaters in the summer the year before I was there. They will voters after you got there. They allowed their lot standards to lap. So you could wear on your head still had to wear this this tweed suit that was the that was the winter uniform. And then it was a blazer around flannels in the summer. Watch this space. I have a sense that Soon as the Gabon Jewish show gets its own feed. We might be putting out on social media. 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Neymar Back to Barca?

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Neymar Back to Barca?

"Welcome addition of E._S._P._N.. F._C.. Yes we are all pretty in pink today. It's coincidence Bryan Bryan Stevie Nikko and myself we also welcome sing low to the show. They say lots to talk about regarding going on Lower League. I suppose we would be rude not to start with name on the possibility of him returning to Barcelona. What's the latest well? I think the thing that's significant about this really is the over the last three or four days is how public this has become now. We've known for a while. The boss have been made aware of his desire to return. We've known for a while that his father his entourage has been manipulating all maneuvering to try and encourage Basler and speed. They're ready for this and I think what's changed over the last few days isn't so much the scenario itself except that by definition it changes from Erin Woods as the fact that this has become so probably and indeed I think more than anything else the clear willingness of Power Sandra man to sell him if the right offer comes in now big problems of course what counts as the right offer power Sandra Manley and other said the other day in that interview with La Parisienne he was very clear in saying we don't think the bus and have the money for this and to be honest. He's broadly speaking true also answer that said that you've got lots of coming out and saying why didn't one name when we've got ballet who my opinions are much better player. Those quotes seem very very strange of this seems very very strange. I think basically this you have to look at this. In the context of how this happened and this didn't happen through some fantastic kind of planning strategy from Boston this happened because it became an opportunity so in other words you've got as you said we we've bought them out. He was asked about this. I'm not sure how many months ago now and said that I was the better player was recently pushed on that and of course right now he has neymar whiting and he has them belay or in the club so right now he was in a position where he was forced to back his previous opinion which isn't necessarily to say that he believes it is not necessarily to say that he won't go for for Neymar. If this becomes a possibility buckles he had to say that in that scenario. I think yet another ingredient in a whole series of things that the dunk quite fit together but sort of doing the fundamental key to understanding all of this is that this is something that has become a possibility rather than something that was planned for and consciously sought a tough question Russian. I know said but percentage wise when we start the new season. Where do we put this name are being in Barcelona shirt but I think we have some of the ingredients there now for this? I I think we have some of the very important ones he wants to go. I think I don't know if they thought they could make it happen. They would take this now because it's an opportunity and because it's exciting and strip away over the other stuff and I think it is worth reminding ourselves that Neymar is a brilliant footballer so I would say that if they can find a way of making this happen which is difficult yeah this this could happen so if you WANNA present age sixty percent sixty five percent that he goes to Barcelona and of course there's another factor that we've discussed and that is a surname and congressman reason as well who is going to go to fossil and come come what may know said well look what happened with Greece men of courses that boss on chased him some of they didn't get him some with emboss N._F._l.. They shouldn't go back to him. Because AH pleased I felt the way that Greece said No. We've of course that famous documentary called the decision which is all about the decision. They feel that they shouldn't have gone back but then when Greenman made it clear in sometime in the in the early spring back into February maybe march according to our let's go for gin at least the he wanted to go back they. Let's let's pick this up again because there's a recognition that Grease Manila really really good and this again tells you the whole scenario of name was not one they plan for if they had planned and genuinely when you thought the name or could happen that point when Grossman says listen. Can we kind of pick this up again that it said well yeah it may be but you are second choice. We've gotten somewhere else I and and so there are loads of questions put in very simple terms and you've you've asked the question the why why do you put all these players on the pitch. You've got them ballet. You've got Grease Mun. You've got name. Are you've got messy. You've got Louis Orth. I think are really should be adding in continue but you do have coutinho. Probably we shouldn't be adding Malcolm but you do have now. This number of players don't fit on the pitch together but said grease. Mun is more likely to happen the Neymar is that fair the only thing that's the thing that is slowing up greenman now and again again this fits with the name our scenario is that Barcelona who knew that his buyout clause came down from two hundred million to one hundred twenty million on the first of July have tried to find another way of paying for him why because that Buyout clause one hundred and twenty million wallets clear you pay that money upfront there now in a position where not only left to play for Greece men but they think there's a chance they might have to pay for Namer so they're saying truck. Let's combat should look. Can we negotiate this and of course Athletico is saying well. No that's these biochemicals. You didn't inform us. We consider the hostile bid so you have to pay that amount of money so right now and I must admit this very phrase makes me giggle every time I hear it's Boston opera pairing the money for that buyout clause now hopefully that gives conjures up images of them sitting there literally counting out the dollar bill. <music> all looking at looking around the back of the guy and I'm sure I had a five and knocking around here somewhere to try and get to that amount and that's genuinely problematic and so I suppose we would be foolish to have one hundred percent say this will happen but I just don't see how it can't happen now. Brian is something we've discussed a lot on the show in the you have all this quantity on the page. Can they all play together. Say the Grease and Neymar deal get done. I don't see how you look at mean. Swears your goal scorer. Certainly neymars going to play out left and then messing grease grease men can float around in different positions but you still have to have people to defend the you're not going to be able to tack with four and defend with six it. Just it doesn't make any sense. You know someone's going to have to sit. It becomes a big headache for the head coach. Yeah and you don't necessarily see this playing out well in the locker room with the players. You've got a a lot of big attitudes and rightfully so some really talented players. I it just seems odd that these purchases are basically very similar and they're incredibly expensive state. Do you think is one yeah. Thank you try and figure out you know when when you coach he's always complaining. They don't have enough talented players so you don't. Tom Don't talented players and we're talking about the best in the world here you know maybe Suarez as as a smidgen past these best but he's still a fantastic player so I think you try and make it what to begin with and if it doesn't then Brian says you're going to have a headache but I think he should try <HES> <hes> meanwhile we go from that to Lindelof as being a report into the interest in the move to pass this come from his agents said window deputy talking about the fact that a very big European club is after his client people putting soon to together and coming up with Barcelona and itunes soon coming up with Boston and just as putting two and two together. I'm thinking that still doesn't come up with enough money through these one we want one and ended the pitch and so and so of course the way in which I mean I don't know whether where we can stand the story up just yet but the way she feels plausible is precisely that look all the players at this end of the page. <hes> we get something cheaper now. I don't actually know how this will end up. Being I think we all looking at a scenario in which passed on the other end of the page having I think now admitted defeat in their in their attempt to get to get into the club announcing okay well. What we need is some scope plays preferably the ones that don't cost us too much preferably ones that don't necessarily get annoyed if they don't play don't start every game in particular? I mean obviously you're talking about where players fifteen in particular says no backup for Julia Alba but I think boss owner's policy at that end of the pitch is to effectively patio ravenous early to go and buy a player. That's going to stop this makes sense to you know what what says said make sense because that's what they're going to have to do. Oh and when do you ponder Oh you get experience. which Lindelof has he please? Country is played in the premier league but he's an average defender. You know there's a reason eight and lost over fifty goals last year and he played in those primarily Emily Games so he clearly is no Sunday as many ought to be standard but they won't. They won't have any money anyway to buy any other tapes of that in the late show Lindelof. Let's dish will find the style where he plays that you could see it. Fitting is good with the ball at his feet. physicality isn't a big issue for Barcelona. That's not going it'd be one thing that really stands out which sometimes it does in the primary where he gets. He gets bullied a bit but you think they could find if they really are looking for a central defender. Maybe somebody with a little bit better pedigree just to remind that we all with the right through the summer and for whatever reason if you miss a show maybe traveling since traveling on the west coast of America and all this family that will work on the website. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting dolls. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly she has no brain however when almost nesting doll here's the GEICO not only saves people money but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious you should switch because yes switching to geico is a no brainer pity the INA most nesting doll and her lot in life military was officially presented as around betrayed. Why didn't quite all go as he would've liked? Seattle dizzy spell during the press conference he was asked about his fellow countrymen Neymar and his future and you the answer leaving the end is too much the night before everyone got judge. Everyone usually used to wear a suit that huge. Ever since then as we talk about trade we obviously have to talk about without Gareth. Bale report suggesting that turned down a move to China Ramat must be desperate desperately to get rid of him him but at the moment yeah I'm this is the way that we that we anticipated it being the row matured. We're looking for for next strategy. I'm looking for a while geier files position from the very stall of of this whole process even before the season ended was I decided I don't want to go. I don't WANNA move anywhere. There's a number of reasons that WANNA call the he's not that keen to go the other is that they know caravels camp that they have to make it rummages responsibility to find a way out for him because as soon as it becomes their responsibly and as soon soon as they start opening the door to this Raj more and make it more difficult so they need to be in a position where where Ashby rummages G._T.. To to look for this and Gareth by a will be in a position where he's not going to say yes to any old thing. I think he will want something early. Certainly this is the way the campus putting it wants the maintains his salary levels want something that maintains a decent football level and frankly there isn't really a club out there. The offer's all of the things right now that Rao Madrid do orbit there are clubs out there that offer one really important thing we do offer rituals gametime and a manager who actually wants in there and that's it. That's the balance what would you do because no one's going to pay his wages. So do you take. Do you do that just to continue playing football or we'll continue to Madrid and take the money what would you do. You know I remember having this conversation last year. When in fact that hit a new coach it was a new opportunity? I thought okay. This is the time you stay where you are. You prove yourself and now you're in a situation. That's quite obviously not good for him to actually gain some playing time so as a player I would look at it in the sense that I need to move right. I have plenty of money. I know listen. I know our careers are short but I I want to play. I'd want to prove myself again and put myself back in pedestal or in the limelight of people keep talking or talk about me as one of the best players and you can't do that on the bench so to me. This is a bit strange. I know it's money but I don't like it quickly. Say What do you think the problem is. We cannot will blow up. The plane was all about the money it's all the problem is gotTa. Bail is probably nine hundred million in the bank. That's where the problem is because he doesn't have to do them but don't you WANNA play football. We do want to play football but he's therapy. He's got three in front of it yeah. He's got plenty of money. He's going to take a peek up but that's surprising thing isn't it because he's he. He got to a point where he was taught about. Being one of the best when you're in that you've gotta push yourself and now he's not but because you've got so much money doesn't see that we anymore so great L. Lion Tiger and all that stuff it's true. Would you and you get once you go there. That's the test and it seems right now. He's feeling the test round what you're looking of course get rid of him. I know the players as well suggestions that Danny survivors could be on the way out said and there was a picture sure of him in a London telephone box which clearly means he's moving to talk them hawks. Oh time or also or Fulham Fulham could be put a that's what is one of the things the BIOS is actually being quite clear on this and I've quite enjoyed listening to him because because of his honesty he said immediately off the European under twenty one championships that he wanted to play football but they didn't want to leave Ramadan that was he was saying look. I want this to be alone because I think I can succeed at Real Madrid but I've been told very very clearly by then you're not part the plans despite the brilliance of his performances at under twenty one tournament which led a lot of people in Spain to say hang on. We need to rethink this ramjet cool stuff WANNA lose him. Permanent one option would be a sale with a with a buyback close but I think what we'll see is we'll see anyth- a BIOS very very keen to go to play on loan and return the following summer and say I'm good enough. I want a starting place in the Real Madrid team. Meanwhile it's interesting to think it was twelve months ago that Cristiano Renaldo made that move from Real Madrid to inventors and I suppose the question is after a year who was the most successful who has benefited most from that transfer. Eh Let's start with you. You take a look at the all to win the Champions League this year Ramage at eight to one eventers ten to one who reflecting on the last twelve months got the better the deal right so difficult to judge isn't it because you know Rinaldo went and of course he won the title in Italy and the one that won the league title into the umbrella one absolutely nothing having come off the back of three champions leagues in a row you would say well clearly Rinaldo but of course winning the title in Italy with events. That's kind kind of what happens so to what extent is this him. Being the person that propels extent is about school a lot of goals clearly play very very very well indeed and rummaging. I think have been massively damaged by Renault's departure but Real Madrid I think we're looking beyond one season and they were looking at this and saying at some stage we're going to have to confront the question of what we do. In towards a Renaldo Future. The amount of money was good and yet all of that you know what I kind of strip with these things I mean I'll give you these arguments but on stripping we'll. Okay well on last year. There's no doubt about it now that deal. There's no doubt about it. It damaged remedied enormously for an outage to depaw. He's there is the most definitely I mean you look at Real Madrid the goal difference they scored thirty one less goals than the numbers in front of you also gotTa look at it from the event. Aside and politics dollar had had really lost out on this to the only scored five goals last year was much less prominent in in fact of the build up the team getting the ball in the final third but all in all I mean you got to look at Real Madrid the fact that they're not they lose that many goals and not only that they'd never looked anywhere near the team. They were the year before and it's the team where the before Rinaldo had stayed though unless you unless you listen the fact that was gone yes last year was a disaster well. It was a disaster pasta yeah but it's kind of it's kind of balloon. The call was a we know the rebuilding the whole team. I mean I mean with with your which I mean. I've got all young players as well saying some defenders. I think the middle three you'll be great this year so I'm not I'm not so sure that event is this. You know yes. They wouldn't leave while there's a surprise but what did he do in the Champions League absolutely nothing so I don't see how this is harmed Real Madrid which is uh maybe they were nowhere near the Champions League certainly harmed him there but yeah I see your point about an aging team on sedan saw it and he wanted out yet but to me this just didn't it certainly hurt Real Madrid more but you vent. This became a different team with Rinaldo so it's not necessarily all for the good thing I'm just thinking so now event a saddled with with the Ouija Nelson hundred million you spent on on Cristiano Renaldo but but the bike say the team no needs completely rebuilt bring about star is it may be removed only reason these guys will chat terms comes to your in listen to did they have the money to rebuild the rest of the team. Well only time will tell Stephen speaking of time extra time is always available on our youtube channel always great to hear from you rang alleys birthday courses. I'll tell you what he's good. Cakes misfit will aw and it wasn't the other inside it was just the frosting goal scorer region Jay signed a new contract livable today and Steven. You're excited <hes> there was a question whether they should resign them when they said no because you know unless I don't think really is any better today than it was when he was twenty four no joy Liverpool's nineteen. I don't think he's any better today than it was then because he doesn't see the film enough he's come on and scored some important goals. Yes somebody want to check in. His actual. Plea is not good enough. It's not a high level that wouldn't if if caught wants to give me no arrests for example and you plea devote garrigue the level drops so far. I don't watch my problem Brian. I agree with them in that in that sense I mean let's let's be honest. He cannot play in the same way from you know can Liverpool has to actually play a little different style. His mobility isn't anywhere near as good as any size of big insulting the only the only way I can. I can say why this happened is because one they were unable to find anybody that that would be willing to I sit on the bench that would be happy to come in and play a bit part and also the fact that the Ivanka's are already understands the situation he understands the way the team plays he understands the players but if you're looking and saying this signings GonNa make Liverpool better and that's what it twenty four year old he's not getting a Games quite happy saying the contract is set by eight. Where else is he gonna go go? He's twenty four years of eased on any single in place just going to Champions League final. Are you telling me that you telling me that a a good site is not going to try and saying this guy well the way that you sell them well. We'll talk in talking about the best of the best. We're talking about a European champions that have to stay at that level yeah. I'm talking the boot the Bundesliga share we are you telling me that there's somebody there wouldn't be able to take him on and try and help them and bring his game on but again. Go Buy to start with. That's worrying at twenty. Four year old is quite happy to he's setting these bikes aid how much sentimentality play a part should should have Brian I do. I think that's part of it as a thank you and looking at all the other factors by a small. It's a small factor hope well the hope it's Asia minute because that should never come into it any stage. Maybe maybe later in the years but you're right now to twenty four so that done a reggie signed a new contract and for a lot more on all. All the latest news on the websites Zuni I'm breaking down. I wonder if he's talking about name all bracelet so the first of the quarter finals in the Africa Cup of nations that I send beating him by one goal to nail guy with the only goal of that game coming in the sixty nine th minute and joining them in the semi finals. We'll be Nigeria to one the final score in that game late. Drama William Cohen was the hero coming in at the five post score in the eighty nine th minutes heartbreak I on Africa Nigeria then through to the semi finals way to them. They ought to be not a gasket or two Nizmia the other quarter-final want we're also going to see massive gain between the Ivory Coast and Algeria. We'll end the show on a lovely note. Daniel Storage of course was robbed. Yesterday took the social media because somebody stole his dog. The dog is being returned. Listen to dogs. I would be mortified if somebody still winning big social media campaign. The dog has returned so yeah. I don't know the intricacies of the details of the return now. It got back to Daniel Storage but it's the most important thing it is the voice of uh we slept very much. I hope you don't need something like what we're going to say. You won't back just figure. Thank you very much into Brian. Child on the website broad took about his clarinet days extra time thank you as always I suppose. All your tweets boys in the senior. Louis sin is preparing American adventure West Coast with the family in and all they won't compulsive with yeah. I'm looking forward to there hasn't been enthusiasm. I was I was state was signed Jessica. I was hoping he would come along with us just to brighten up every day to do we need to do it was the there's only one thing you can do in the R._V.. At be able to fix the the author the author of the toilet me inside Oh right because if anyone without said that will cause a pro state this sounds very much command speaking from experience as this happened to you or is this just on the team boss at Liverpool opens the reason reason I've never done that because I want to deal with them right I can you also mentioned something about buying too many things that the shops and we need to stop what what was said sit nicely told his Elia the the mid a pie in the know going to use the toilet installed at McDonalds I did I did mention that since wife is anything like Mine Ainsley cost him a fortune cashew never go in any places buying so what she's like. I can't go into Utah. Okay use it and give them A. We've won't Cook High Brow. Soccer analysis is always hit parade. Where the thing you guys have done in your lives on a pupil I <hes> you know? Did you enjoy them. Absolutely we'll get remember matching that was plenty to be involved. Yes did the double decker bus have a bathroom author. I is extra time is often. I just went off the side drive. Did you ever do you ever pray for never want him. Oh U._S. Open Cup. No we did not have a parade and <hes> you know. I think it has to be something. Nothing comes to mind said what have you done this being parade worthy in your life. Nothing rained on the few rights but vise piece of the three deliberately cool we end of it. We've been guy we would change. We would drive all the way from San Francisco all the lights at Bristol so Steve can give us a parade. Have you arrested parade on university challenge. You could have had a parade. Just people frying rotten tomatoes at you after that. Yeah extraordinarily moments Almighty frying all that me try to help the next time right full said Malcolm's good player or mediocre player and benefit from move to the Premier League <hes> well. I think it would benefit fit from a move to anywhere where he plays. He plays regularly and I must admit no one is going to pretend that he's the greatest player of all time but I think on little we saw him at Bosso suggested that we he probably deserved for us. The same a bit more he probably hardly deserves a bit more game time and it seemed in which the manager gives them confidence the team which he plays with spicy in front of him to to run into. I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be a recent successful signing for someone probably not anyone in the prime minister of the of the kind of the the next three or maybe four teams but maybe just about anyone else yeah. This is from Brian Suit Bryant's favourite suit Mexico. We're that someone made it up account just for that jacket. You don't know the news a Delta the Blue Glitzy one yeah. Thank you yeah. I think my favorite suit he's aw talking about jacket or the WHO knows I have no idea what if just city manages livable saving what would change in the middle of the Fox would change the way the corbusier three in the middle basically what could be getting the ball giving it to the front three Hari and chase in law otwock whereas pep city. There's a lot more these look for a lot more football from clock win the Premier League with that city side. We'd have to see the probably the strongest squad so I would say yes what reason would win the Champions League because I'm like shoot he would he would live a pulse three in the middle actually played with three younger half. Wouldn't it be good the way that city right so maybe not but the outside backs remember poor Mary important and for but that's why he plays with the three in the middle of who'd you spill the walkers and then you've got the two-way guys going to help the front but his pet wouldn't play the Maui they wouldn't he wouldn't live the way they do. No one the right question. If say Stevie Brian and Dan started ban who would sing who will be the dancer. I'm which to what the drums guitar by the way you can invite Julianne. He would be a smooth hike man well we got him with this. Is there's only one lead singer of course and Madrid Madrid after the league final was belt could fit in the province of good tights to some skinny skinny pants senior lead singer. You gotTa have the attitude what lead singer with taste pretty much book. It's just one name the middle one name it was taste. Go back to the old days. Everybody van Halen wore tights. The whole group worksites you people that he fun yeah <hes> Stevie. What would you bring to the obviously we've seen you floss with I would've you would've usually single no question? I'd probably go into drums are the Bryan on guitar and said because he's a von the rule distraught Montijo he just piloted The v the terrible tragedy here is that Steve is read. My behind possible white could be remotely useful to this ban well if I can get across the half the U._S.. Then there may be drive at all busboy it. That's about as far as they go. You musical tool Brian Joe plan instruments played the clarinet for one day in school and the Tuck into playing playing something in my call my mom's like no no your brother already did this right mom. I really WANNA play the clarinet. The school played at once. I said I I'm not I'm not musical physical at all love to see him. In a clarinet Brian site played the piano see I would've loved to play the piano or guitar yeah one of those to be great great when he just let when you see one go already we big fingers shovels hand all the piano and we will be shown geezer given on everybody singing along the few beers on not too late stevie he could dedicate your evening to you know he could stop playing golf lessons Stevia to play. Thank you very much. I have a lovely trip said is going to be on again. No no no I am. I'm on next week from Madrid.

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Madrid derby review, preview of Champions League meeting with Brugge.

The Real Madrid Podcast

13:07 min | 1 year ago

Madrid derby review, preview of Champions League meeting with Brugge.

"Uh-huh now to name just a few of the platforms hasn't had a great amount of opportunity to do what he wants to do but you must highlight the work that he has done here today on the fact that it is two hundred well meeting number one hundred ninety four wasn't quite a classic it produced the forty seventh draw the ten th nil nil four of those incidentally Ofcom since April more than the draw but I must congratulate my place yet again we missed a cutting edge up fronts but the effort was high but we must create more it's not only the intensity but it's all of us strength together as a team Gareth Bale who continues to show great another piece of individual mastery that had royal purring afterwards he was in raptures he has everything he said this boy z. down the reminded it comfortable when we all defend what about the captain's view then Sergia ramesses these matches with athletic of very physical it is about the most difficult rob rigo knows that we will progress slowly problem of course the Z. Damn will have is that as long as he continues to produce eye-catching Chana and maybe his inspiration was just what they lacked on the day he was with the Castille team where he's after scoring on his debut against assuming he produced on eating has already said I don't think he has much to worry about it will come in time he's not lacking awful lot he's done a good job here today everybody that he was going to be remaining very conservative with the way that they use Rodrigo he said I'm glad of what happened the other day against US assume that he that is who says of this podcast via the website at www dot Ramadorai podcasts dot com or you can find us on itunes Google Alexa stitcher and spotty also appeared optimize to respond to some of the criticisms aimed at him of late and he dismissed all of the critiques that it simply doesn't affect me I analyze licensed come to every season it's always difficult to create chances because they leave so very few spaces in which we can play a Tiba Putra application in his performances this season said Gareth is doing very well above all he helps a lot defensively and it shows the team very now two hundred twenty nine minutes without conceding a goal and that was a source of great pride for the coach Zoo data has out bore the brunt of any criticism for what was deemed to be another anonymous performance what about in Sudan's view on his plays in the performance then on the day is that I think we deserved of twenty fifty nine was gutsy there was plenty of hard work and endeavor but what they missed most were a significant goal threat on the day but it is now to the Champions League meeting with Brugare Amel Roundup all of the latest transfer rumors and speculation now don't forget you can catch up with all of the previous accrues stats again highlight somebody who feels he needs to remind everybody of the quality that he does possess as usual he had the most touches of that really picked up on if he does get sanctioned he could miss up to three games and suffer a significant fine let's take a look at some of the numbers had more and he won possession back along with Valverde more times than any other player out there as well as where Gareth Bale on four occasions both more than any other player chances were on target only one for athletic I in fact Madrid's possession never dip below fifty four point nine percent in any quarter of the gay as well believe it or not with three in the most on target with two he had nine Jill set the course of the ninety minutes winning five Ramos and Veron any Madrid player executing just under thirty percent more completed passes than any other player today he had the most shots on goal even running and slotting it through in two thousand nine minutes since they lost conceded a goal he said this for me is the most important thing of all we defend as a team we must continue on this line not first meeting between Rao Madrid and a team from Belgium they bought ten drawn three lost seven this'll be the third meeting with Braga the Belgians believe it as might matches with people who know football I speak with my coaches and my teammates Matt there were some who were disappointed that was Rodriguez on display the metropolitan it or not have a positive records remedied drawing here in Spain back in October of seventy-seven nil nil that was a time when Milan middle yanic teen he runs dribbles pasta pirates today eighty one percent of tackles one to sixty one percent for athletic what about individually time now to turn our attentions to the Champions League now just a couple of weeks ago the morning headlines as Madrid prepared to take on PS g eighteen twelve jewels one on ones but did any win three and as well today he did lose possession out there twenty three times and had the ball taken off of him they've all beaten Real Madrid standard the only Belgian dean ever to have beaten them at home and that was fifty years ago this year when they regained take it up Sergio Ramos as they wait to see if sanctions to be bored against Ramos of the home field comments that he made to a match official which would please Mellon's the climate or have him in the first team squad at least will only grow now the next few days will also be very tense for z Dan any is from the Gay Madrid had the majority possession of fifty five point eight percent creating fourteen Johnson's overall to Athletico's seven three of Madrid Edna returns the pool to finish the job no easy proposition this they are unbeaten in the lost nine. Champions League Dame's if you add in the qualifies brigger Remember Still Olten sticks to be seven corners they want fourteen thousand conceded to gather Qods on the Danta pass completion ratio sitting close to the season average at eighty seven percent career which included an Intercontinental Cup win three Spanish comes in nine Liga's recent times that Madrid founded a little more comfortable against Belgian opposition the only team from Belgium to reach the European Cup final when they lost to Liverpool back in seventy eight that who should we look out for tomorrow in Paris read the King of Europe returns or have a next of course was as sapiens reminder to all of the quality the from Vanita Ruby Nad led to row Madrid being knocked out at the young bright little stadium now they went out in the next round to eventual losing he's the coach their unbeaten in thirteen games this season they've get clean sheets an eight of them they scored twenty eight goals in the process of this week they beat Mechlin optima player and he will be key if he starts tomorrow take full advantage not s g it'd be pretty satisfied finally today let's take a look at some of the rumors and speculation around the press in the media I on the room affront iskoe's future very much of one the last four at home about eighteen scoring twenty goals and conceding just three so what about Brooke a-team these days country they lead he's carried out forward as well four goals in eight this season Kevin Diatta twenty year old Senegalese international it is third season included the great Paul Breitner couldn't breakdown Ernst Happel team they did even worse in Belgium when Arik let favre and are known I making three joke between them well this week then is Brugere from Belgium it's the by five goals to nil away from home what about Champions League for Madrid we now have lost two of the last three Champions League Games brew on paper reporting there to any attempts to extend his contract we'll be rebuffed a less united are willing to pay him thirty one million euro per season which way from the club these days interest now in these Spanish bull midfielder sue so he's currently with Milan his name was linked to in the summit that has resurfaced he's new this season he got four goals in his first four games he's Julia Goto there he's not scored since the tenth of August now the key man for knocked out Rennie has team masterminded that famous victory over Miguel Munoz remember he'd won two European cups as well in a highly decorated that she producing mentioned glad backer within beaten by livable in the final overall they've met five Belgian teams Brugge Standardization and the international break against Gowda coming up the weekend and we will review what happened in Champions League this week until then from Tim Capable Bob I said all Dutch caps is thirty one years of age now this is sixth season at the club in spite one hundred and eighty one games and scored forty two goals former final rotor said that Madrid will want up to twenty million in order to sell it well that is it for today where we later in the week as we look ahead to the final match before imagine Lee Catholic Limo who spent ten years as a plan for ninety nine to two thousand nine after you moved from Coventry City play two hundred fifty four games there scoring thirty nine goals exists in Europe see lead the return McCarty bigger what is we set continues to put on a visible effort and product very still lacking a bit all three shots were off target today did swinging eight crosses Gordon Welcome back from Tim Cable to the Ramat podcast now coming up today we'll take a look back at the reaction to the weekend draw in the Madrid Dhabi we'll look ahead gangs with Melanie scored twenty goals since his debut now Paul Paul his still making us not though for his on field performances Italian media suffered data's he's continued his impressive early season form the twenty year old Norwegian who has by remedy back in two thousand fourteen once again the player wants on Liverpool's books as played in Spain forty one season when he was on loan with a Maria back in two thousand thirteen fourteen he's played one hundred fifty if true appears to be pushing him closer to the exit door overtime to wonder had Scott's watching modernity Gareth the last couple of weeks never appeared once for the Madrid club he spent the previous two seasons on loan eat Netherlands with had vein and Vitesse Wolves do WanNa buy me yeah three goals in the last four games for him Nigerian Ford David Okay at four seasons in Italy with the spicier he had cosenza setting up goals is rude he's at seven assists so far this season I mean it was so good and consistent in the last eighteen months as picked up his A few players that you may not know Vanik Saturdays Best Goal scoring season of fourteen goes last season that was from midfield as well this season going six zero funding. 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Emery Out

ESPN FC

30:49 min | 11 months ago

Emery Out

"Welcome in solicitation of ESPN SEM. Thomas Stevie Nikko and Craig Burley we also welcome him to the program Julianne Laurel and Said Low. Of course the big story today. You niamh recent as a manager of Arthur we speculated a lot over the last few days is record just good enough after picking out the bassin from us and Vangere very different. Of course the TINA SCENARIO CRAIG which. I think everyone won't surprise about this. Not really a surprise. No not really when you look at results hit the period last year went on in a great run and it can be papered over the cracks. A little bit you go. In the summer you think right regroup with applaud twelve months down the line of job or understanding ending of the squad and for whatever reason the signings pay piece command as really a playoff. They needed then a last minute. dovid Louise Curing Tierney from Celtic. Who is a good player ebb to prove himself in England and he really struggled to find the right balance in the team? And the only thing I'm surprised about is I wonder whether the board would be hesitant hesitant and making decisions because they have been in the past. I mean in my opinion van before he said I'm going because AH stale for two or three years but fair play them admitted decision. I think it's the right one. No even bigger one to make jewelry. It was just a few weeks the guy we're talking about the possibility that it was going to be given time when the problems really start to go wrong. I think he was given time. I think he here the law of time a lot of chances to turn things round they they wanted to believe in him. The bacteria is supported Imola and even before the southend game last week. There was a big meeting in Los Angeles with the family and they do and Rosa nearly as well and they said okay. While we're doing I mean we can suck him now all we could give him a bit more time and see what happens in the next few games. That's why they chose the second option. He went on to draw in the last minute against them on which was a miracle and then defeat again Frankfurt on on Thursday night sealed his fate enough that I game again that meeting the over the phone and these time there was no other. He's positioned with two and there was no other choice to make then to came and it just happened on Friday morning then how much of his his absolutely his full you know. I said he yesterday you can. You can pick holes in a manager for he's tactics. For the PIXIES team hurry pixies captain but at the end of the day. As a coach. Foremost you have to get your list. Guo who also ensure togetherness and fight for the club and for the Jersey. That's the first thing you have to do because the rest of you don't do those things things. The rest doesn't really mar and the Frankfurt game. The apathy from the players was incredible. I mean you talk about. Nobody's bothered and there wasn't a fun. There seemed to be bothered either so they really had no other choice. The city obviously for them closely in Spain where he had his most successful spell as a coach he's surprises come up short hair not necessarily because obviously the context of different in each different club. I think the the surprising thing for me in a way is the way that this the things that went wrong. The kind of things the fact that defensively asked to weren't strong that he wasn't able to give them organizational channel structure that he didn't seem to be able to give them that kind of aggressive ability to compete. That you look emory inspired and you would say well the floors perhaps were occasionally occasionally. They couldn't compete with the very biggest teams occasionally. He was too conservative that he wasn't perhaps prepared to take those teams on. Zee Calls it so many times in Spain where you would look inside okay. He's problem is going to be that he's not going to be able to organize a defense. And so I think in that sense surprise but the fact that it didn't didn't didn't succeed given the quality of managers in England given the quality of the other teams in England given the the weaknesses in in parts of the squad giving them the personalities that you had to confront. Maybe that's less of a surprise but as I say the particular flaws or some of the particular laws are yeah. It's a shame really because I am not talking Niamh. Am because sorry for taught mine and just because they get paid handsomely rewarded for for. But I kinda you know. With Liverpool Liverpool mindset dominant and the moment as the are no clubs divine right to be successful or competitive awesome are in the possession around one and the clubs are capable of should be capable of fighting for all the major owners and as the roof. Shame to see how the decision making over the last few years has just been soper matzahs without new contract said that start the season season or before he was a three hundred thousand pounds a week headache for Miami which is exactly what you tell them to be. Even I am re- backtracked in the end because you'd be so desperate to try and find Saddam from result but I just scratched my head to what we are going to go next when you see when you see the this has been made sets we deceive. The says she's been made at Liverpool a clear plan of where we wanted to go for the future. Both on and off the field and then I'll look at the shepherd macron keys and destruction arsenal the management assures uninterrupted rushers. And boy. This is a big ship to tell marrone who's in Chelsea recruitment. Because I don't they're good at and carrying them agree. We said in a way because you know yes you you can talk to you defend as you can organize them and tell them when they should be the position what they should be doing. But if you've got ask who just can't do it. Then you have to between the manager and the recruitment guy change the staff and so after twelve launch Craig said when he figured everything what he had the did absolutely the nothing about buying somebody to defend in fact they go by a guy who's disease on. The bulk undefended Avid Louise. So Oh between emory overs and child's you're bringing employers. There's a complete disaster. How deep rooted of these problems? Well the interesting thing about the whole is left and even before the Ivan who's obviously the CEO and he's not there anymore started restructuring declared. Because because you had to choose huge figure that he going on him about to go. I mean to replace one. They had to replace him with a few people so I do came in as a sporting director which was long needed. Someone who would be the lane between the board and the first team of Luke or so the the youth teams permit. It's a soccer. Kamien has the academic director which again was needed. Then you are split between the two. CEO Onside Veena Venkatesh. Who is the Guy With audiologist administrative side and then routes nearly the former boss director who is the head of football so they believe in terms of structure. They down there where they should be and they have good structure and everything then we can talk about the recruitment in the summer by the time from avid with which by the way was by far. Aw No deficit towards the center by the tried maybe five or six other options are sent. Couldn't find any and he was really the last chance the one that they could sign at the end with a bit of experience. Expedience Laurent Cassini has left the day before. Let's not forget it so they were even shorter than before because Cassini come back home to board. Oh so then we was okay we can do him is quite Sheba's lavine save. Bring him in. There was never the first choice that was never the idea behind the whole plan. So there were there were flows in in a way in the recruitment but also they're fed the structure around. Everything is good the money that the the way the invested was quite good and quite clever by he. He hasn't worked out so that we'd be looking at as well. Who's going to be the new coach Gills Freddie bag? The plan is to give them back sometime. They're hoping really hoping that there would be something happening with with the squad with him. The he's a very popular figure. The boys really like him. He had a very powerful speech this this morning. He's I one as manager training. Run into the dressing room. So they're really believe these will have a positive impact they can turn things around even if he doesn't have any experience as a first team manager and if that works then then the plan is to review the position in the summer because they believe that they will have more candidate which is true in in the summer now. Let's say they won't Rogers. It would be more likely for him to agree to come to us nor in the Senate in the off season than to do it right now when he has a very good project project on on route already. With for example we the same with the how dotted as they believed. It might be easier in the summer. toge- Eh the one. They really want more than now. During the season when we only at the beginning of December but if plan doesn't work and if room begs a disaster there's no win the the next three four maybe five games then they will look plan. B which is appointing someone. Maybe if he was not originally initially their first choice and maybe go with a lot of expense and someone who will then steadied the ship. Maybe someone like I dunno Max Allegri. He's ready to take a club. MIDSEASON for example. The plan is really to give a chance to give him MHM sometime. And then see what happens to the biggest clubs in Europe and settled in England national and such desperation hoppy hugging the heart's on on source content of management experience. There's no deny that but Freddie Ljungberg null and so that is not a the the red if I was Mukul Tessa although I played an awesome wouldn't touch it with a pet while the although is not gonna stay at Manchester City forever. Is the right hand man out there at the moment and I my own passed an opinion as I think he might look to promote from within so if he's any brains which I'm Sherry. Hi He's probably GonNa sit tight. I think Brandon Rojas is probably at this moment in time one of the high stokes but I agree with you because I think what he's doing it less than what he's listed as well as asthma at the moment so a it's a real quandary for the club but in some sense is that are making because with all that restructure allowed it to happen to the low dyson Venga as good as he was to hang on. Hang on hang on and make his own decision that he was gonNA leave. Not says you shouldn't have been made from at least two two to three years before that and then we wouldn't have been so far behind the eight ball. Will they are at the moment Freddie Bloomberg you like this why we gave a nice speech Greg. Lago them now. Listen absolutely huge club. They need a Calica accounting. So listen to me. He he seems like he takes no nonsense from day regardless of who they are will the bean and the fighter astle interviewed him once before and the wall does it felt that he was wanting to much charge. Well you know what you didn't take them then because you wanted to be in charge you stayed in charge humidity maciver. You brought a guy in who already are a big club and g showed. He couldn't handle the players. You go and get this guy. This guy knows what what he's doing you give him what he wants to get you club by. As because in case the for gone languishing and the middle of the Premier League and the dropping quickly quickly against Norwich this weekend meanwhile for Liverpool their home against Brighton but big news regarding then today is a Filipino is out for two months and obviously December is hectic already. How big a blow is this to Liverpool's theory? Yes US blow. He's he's solidified himself. An and the stanton eleven absolutely question when when the team is getting now. He's one of the Fox ones all that good use for Liverpool is that you know previous to him be in that guy on the team sheet. They still have the same players who had an incredible run of not losing games as well. So hello yes as the laws. But it's not huge blow like Machado's mindsets he though seeing the injuries with all the Games on the graph coming coming up it's going to be hard to get through all those games with pecking up even more engines. So you're crossing fingers legs moment. These players are going to Ah Colt with the options of come through unscathed. Just to confirm this weekend's fixtures in England all sorts managed to city away against Newcastle Chelsea. I'm against West waste time loopholes. You mentioned Brighton. Spurs take on born north and then on Sunday lesser against Everton to be very interesting regarding the future. Marcus still old. Are you still wearing your button. Downs on talked in hoping for the best. Then stop it seriously. 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No doubt where the big game in Spain is this weekend at the Spanish capital Athletico Madrid taking on a Barcelona. Let's start with Bossa. It really is a roller coaster with them at the moment. Isn't it struggle to win away against leg and then a good victory at the camp now. What's the real boss are? We saw at the C.. Green he's been can fit into this team. Well a we're seeing where they want him to fit into the team which is of course the only place that's really available in the forward line which is on the left hand side of the front free but I still don't think in. Saudi convinces bear in mind that although he scored in mid week he came on. He didn't stop the game. Then Bella start the game and then go inches. And that's why he had the opportunity they performances Wilma's zone that left hand side of the Front Frey haven't really convinced except away bar in exceptional circumstances because I borrowed seeing the place so high up the pitch they give you spicer run into so he was presented with the kind of opportunities and the amounts of spice that you just doesn't normally get so. I don't think that's necessarily concluded a tool just yet in terms of which is the real Barcelona. I think in a way the answer is in the way that you presented. It can play very well at the camp nou having just played very badly away from home and that is fundamentally really where the divide lines that lies at the moment. They've generally speaking played pretty well a home but for the most part they've been really really poor on the road. They've lost three times already this season which it costs more than as many as in the whole of last season more than in the whole of the season before that when they're lost ones and they just look at least away from home like a team that doesn't function. That doesn't have a clear clear idea that doesn't have a sense of patent away. The plays but at home if only because the players themselves raise the game they they they still look half decent. Meanwhile said and the Stop the season we were getting genuinely very excited about Athletico Madrid. When they had a great three season be all communist scoring goals? Fun Great to watch. That was very much a full allstone. Yeah I think it was an and look in truth I think I have to hold hands here. We perhaps allowed ourselves to be Overexcited by the type signings that they made a navy that blinded us to yes. These are the songs they made. But it's in return for these departures and those other departures. Of course fundamentally meant pretty much half of the standard starring eleven six players departed of which you would say five. Almost guaranteed start is in any game six in some games and so you think well all right so so you've lost a whole lot of place but it is true. I think what happened. Was the expectations. were so low with Ed departures that we were surprised. How well they appear to have moved in the transfer window we thought but wow this is really exciting and also as you rightly say in the some of these called seven seven goals against Rao Madrid in the US and we will? This could be a very different country but a really really exciting. You want of course one of the problems as when we've raised questions show lots and lots of times for out the season even at the very start when they were playing. Well that question of okay they have these players which in theory at least inclined him towards doing something different but do they truly believe in it. Does the manager truly believing it and can it really work and I think actually what we've seen over the last month is so let's go Madrid side neither one thing nor the other the night of this big creative team that we thought they might be because it's certainly not that sixteen goals in La Liga but nole other defending the way that they once would so now they won the lap and it used to be athletic. I want you know the game is over now. The Guy and one that up and attending to draw one one that game on Sunday they then on Monday. It's the balance door the winner announced and said you don't need me to tell you that in Spain. They are obsessed by this award suggestions on according to some leaks Leeann Alessi's one it. Yeah I'M GONNA say up front. Nobody's leak this to me. I don't know if you're right. Everybody is assuming that he will. I must admit as you probably not. I'm I'm slightly bored by the bathroom door in the furious. Nece if you like of the debates lights around it I think if Mexico winds. That's absolutely fine. I think vandyck was to win it. That's absolutely fine but certainly the assumption in Spain is messy when it for the sixth time sticking my neck out. I think Dan Bella is going to win. It was confirmed. Today that is injured. Once again said this is a recurring issue. The man that has spent lots of money on yeah I mean look when when boss on a soul Neymar apiece for. ESPN saying that the best thing that can do now is not doing anything not allow that to one hundred twenty million euros in their pockets to force them into signing finding not allow the desperation of losing name. I'll say right. Go and sign someone but fundamentally that's exactly what they did. They spent a total of nearly three hundred million euros on coutihno. WHO's now gone? And on December. I who by the way is in his third season. And there's never really had consistency in part is because performances have been good impart. There's been this sense all the way through that. He doesn't connect the dressing room. But also the way that you start this question we've injuries. He's missed a third of the of the playing time that had Barcelona and look over. That's his four or wherever it's a combination of factors obviously. He's the person who suffers the most. He's the person that has the worst on any. Do feel very very sorry for him but from boss on structural view. Of course they have to come up with a solution and I just wonder if the solution becomes the end patients runs out and they look for a way out for him. Speaking of patients running out said it's the first time you've been on since that reception and Gareth Bale received the burn of are the weekend when he came on. Just a chorus of whistles. I think they have the disavow levels of eighteen ninety nine or something like that regarding how loud it was its own. Very Pantomime is all going to end in January when he moves on no. He's not he's not going to end in January. Well I say it's not going to end in January. Look I'm not one hundred percent gonNA stick my neck out and that because I think if a if a solution presented presented itself I think there would be a willingness to embrace that but there is awareness basically that solution almost can't presents itself in January. This is something that probably has to be resolved in the summer now. I say resolved because of course the relationship isn't great and everybody. I think agrees that the best thing now Isabel to move on of course if that doesn't happen till the summer who knows what happens between we now then now my suspicion is that what happened is that he will play he will play quite well he will be useful that there will be a certain degree if you like kind of forgetting what went on but well if you like the undercurrent. We'll still be there and I think the solution will come in some. I don't think it will come in January. There aren't clubs. Who can pay for him there on clubs that he really wants to go to just yet and it's very very very difficult to make it happen? Remember of course that he wanted to go last summer and he was this close to going in the end rounded back down onto deal to China otherwise he wouldn't still will be there said Lo. Thank you very much more from say available on extratime. Bichon check over on our youtube channel and we'll end the show with a better best the week. 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Maybe I'm I'm I'm Mandalay doesn't get the recognition they deserve because I think is an outstanding player. Got Any place names one. Answer your question you completely cut to me. You know you're looking at me because you WanNa talk to me. I'll play gone. It's not it's not a player. Nobody knows Johnny Evans because haven't been so enter. The Turkish Lodge are part of like great list of defense we often Evans. We'll see some the really great career and still plan will stay home film boat do you Amri will return anti-legal if so which club should he sign four other now. I'm just transfixed by Craig Stephen wondering if loss next Thanksgiving was like this Underwrites play. Well what do you think's the most underrated written anywhere just here for you. I'm sorry what was the question Dan. Let's try to answer the question hour instead of just got an awful. Which club should emory? We signed for League Well some point because it's where he's from and is because where. 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End of an Era?

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00:00 sec | 1 year ago

End of an Era?

"Wealth means addition of ESPN NFC dance Amish on Adam Renan, Craig Burley and Stevie nickel. Hoti will be with us still only as well. Long later on in the program at Spurs victory against Bruce Doman, but we start at the ago burn of ions. I XE beating ram Madrid by four goals, the one it could have been a lot more that in all truth be told act so many chances by far the superior side ram Madrid a mess from start to finish to the defending champions out of the champions. And this, of course, a team that went into this match having won that lost three Champions League tournaments side is ever done in the history of the competition for the out of the round of sixteen state. It's the first time in eight years they have made it to the semi finals. That's absolutely no question. The I axe deserve to go through. Up -solutely. I mean assault competitive ten extent IOC something new settlers in the fossil egg. But I didn't see this against an experienced almost Phuc strength really Real Madrid site. So that would say one of the best performances of Senate the batmobile for quite a while. I know they they were they've been a bedroom. Yeah. However for my to say that was one of the best performance. He's one of the best performances from an individual and was tied which was a guy who. At the end couldn't get in this inside for whatever reason has just taken it out field. Like mash, his a couple of games in a recently in play these based tie completely Sean what mass is done the last games. That's good was in this game tonight. This is a massive shock, isn't it? Yes. Yes. The Real Madrid plano season. There's no shade hasn't gone to the burden abo- all year and not played. Well, look the actually when a game context the league I asked what in four one and Berna bow as short game. But really the way they've been playing. I mean, an absolute shambles. Yeah. Shoots. I going forward. The fantastic we love to play an open attacking game. So Real Madrid? Just see on you go. We're going to be as open as you like. And if you're on your game, then you might make some Janis. My goodness. This could have been eight one. I mean, the chances in the FOX half in particular. So yes in the context of the Champions League shock, but you know, this this is becoming for soul. But the thing is over the years Ramage it being shocking in league and played poorly and got together for the champions. The and you thought this time they didn't really have to get together that much they were to up going into this game. That's when you had a team while we saw there today. That's not a team. This is a bunch of guys running around there disconnect there this organize. This was a comprehensive thorough backside. Whooping what they took this Diego. This was no accident. It's like I somehow put a couple goals together and hung on. No, no, no. This was I x out plane destroying and taking by reality. The. And then what was even more surprising because there's one thing. I know and say, okay, we're going to play and we're going to match you up, and we're going to we're going to play with intensity with energy. But the fact that there was none of that knowing ten city, no energy disconnected stretch all over the place. People just kind of doing their own thing and not really having any sort of team performance or shape or plan or identity nothing. There was nothing about this that team that said, you know, what if it gets difficult to date? No worse because we can we can we can respond. There was no response coming. They can still be playing out there. And there was no response common. The embarrassed. I I get the point that, you know. A the league games this year where bomb Hoffa league teams of gone there. And and some of what some of come away, we probably should have. But I don't think there's many of gone there is what the backside and then going set and address them thing. Boy, we should go seven. We should've go seven. But I tell you well this club and this president and some of these players have arrogance written all over them, you gonna president who's Ouragan enough to go and tai-bo sh the Spanish national team's World Cup with the whole low potato incidence. No, he wasn't to blame either. But it was all one big sham. Then you've got one of the two is with the generation Lieven, and he's replaced by who people call twelve a goalkeeper who highs to commend. You've got a very very good goalkeeper ready there and Kayla Nava. You've got hoax to plug and other possessions. And then captain as Ouragan to think that I just going to be Bosh out. Take my yellow cat now move to the next game Olbia since he's known since and that was double arrogance. It would have been suspended anyway. But that's Ouragan be have become known respect for national teams for coaches for players for officials and for pausing teams. They just thought they could brainwash an whitewash everything front them. And they go big lesson tonight. I'm telling you is it as simple as saying of Christiana Renaldo was still playing around which they'd be through. No, no, no. I think I think unfortunately, Santiago Lowery's good Carrie Kahn as well. You know, we we wanted to is Dan coming from the the reserve team. But with all the big names he monies to get them to actually play. He mon- these to get them. To to put that intensity of particularly when they when they didn't have the bowl Santa can do that. I mean, algebra the shape of the team the, but four was an absolute embarrassment and you woke up one or near Baronne who you would expect at least to try and organize the guys Boucher, and it's four experienced players just a shambles. And I'm sorry. But for me that's to the manager. He he husky at the very least get his team organized. He come put the ball in the net. And he can't. He can't he can't do anything which just makes a Bodmer steak, but you have to be held accountable when you team is all over the place from stop defense doesn't have to worry about it for too much longer. Shame the one because he's a casualty of the shambles. Yeah. But the truth of the matter is that nobody survives. This not not Santus alighted gnome. Nobody survives them might as well. Just go into it and start packing because there's nowhere else to go other than say, thanks, but no, thanks. And it's not just scientists. Santus? This is a team and club that has to do a complete overhaul. They were hanging on with the idea that the core group of players that they had was going to be enough for them to compete. But what they look like tonight was like a boxing world champion that is hanging on one too many fights. And today it came the knockout punch, and there was no coming back from it. Ran my read honestly, I thought after the game I thought there was going to be a different version of real moderate, this was ugly and nothing about this tells you that this team is heading in the right dishes. She didn't from saving private Ryan. I'm telling you global take gone done for a guy we allow we're not give an NFL. You know, we're not giving anybody any favors. He's going to have to go. But he's taking a decision that he full of China steps up from the steel where is public job for for years. Go by them, though, you gotta bail. Shop chill broken you. Go east go who's no even an escort Hoffa time Maceo. He's gone as well is a bloodbath. It's interesting one name. You did mention being equal bio and much foam nuke. The Monterey is a balance doing. He's the best in the world. Supposedly euro, you would've thought that home scenes, but today pits, and again, if the games played on paper, then it's definitely story. But I mean, cashier crews and mortgage actually agreement with three the middle three. That's one the on. Yes on paper. But when they don't walk in when they don't make good decisions was nothing else around that the forward line. Can't get cut Bill the moat because the fog, Elaine. My opinions atrocious Benza should not be played Real Madrid finishes. His teen is said and Vasquez. I mean, she richly they go to bail you when you mistakes and not only only make mistakes that the Bach the atrocious. They could be losing three and four games home. Every single step on the field, not acceptable so front middle and absolutely awful and coup. Twas not me this evil years and go there, you mentioned Casamayor crews moment experiments they've done everything in the game pretty much. Why? Why does it have to why they not performing level? These numbers. But. Bill Maud, which is play football. Right. And it does look to me because it's become a Plato overnight. I don't think he was the best player in the world. I just think that was you know, going voting system. Yeah. But highs play racket teach creation side played a law that just don't look as if it can around the field anymore, which is in midfield. I actually some good young players and their pope around Todd it and the whole when defend us don't come out to squeeze it in and cause space teams that just Popa or the Chris Chris moderates compatible for fun, but not getting around the few anymore, and there's only one that's Real Madrid, and that Spence Spence ban. I know we're going to talk about an abet, but you know, higher Cain. That's gonna play right? They're going to have to start going after getting ready to Ben's getting ready to bail getting ready all these guys. Not good enough for this team anymore, and they're going to have to Europe and the rest of South America and spend beg on players like Harry Kane the possessions to get themselves Bucko to your point about that midfield and got some meat on cruise and mortgage. And we start mother the point of Doni crews there were sequences today in which he dribbled the ball straight outta bounds guy who's as clean as a bowl as you would want anybody to being the world. So then there are some personal responsibility. That everybody clearly there's a level of confidence that is gone, and it's very easy to like that confidence when you know that you haven't been able to dominate teams in the midfield. Lots. You have in the past in particular guy that depends on intensity on tackling physicality today do synthetic doing spin around MAs around him Guzm it it's not even moving. So again, maybe maybe maybe we can give them that Bela. I'm not right. There's a pointing of competing here that the not happened from Ramage. Mergers perspective at some point when we've seen Kesse Meteo his best. Somebody's doing spin around us. He's at the very least taking yellow car for that wasn't even happened happening today. They weren't even close to. I I seem like they were playing with twenty people in the field round mother who was playing with five it just that's how mismatch this game. Was it was all all the time round Madrid? At least these Tony Christopher by Jimmy today. That's Milla Milla. A good night for him that performance as are because performance at the World Cup just went home. I mean, I'm not suggesting these Real Madrid. But he was a player that said look at me I can play on the team by you know, when when you plan when you plan is a Bank, you you're always talk into the guy from the field. And he's always talking to you guy gets gets in behind the central midfield. Guy is going for letting them do and vice. So you have to play together to show box today. Who would know what near end body? Kashmira doesn't know whether to step back to occasions mortgage with the with the goal he's he's buying the box and the CASA marrow who's having to make challenges as well. He's behind the scent of boxes. Well, so they can't do everything. This is what happens. Rommel's doesn't play. Well, only could have control that away. That's can get the gap. As we go to this lower is still in charge of ram Madrid's. He's a Dead Man Walking though, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, look the rational thing to do would be to if you can you keep these Alati until the summer, and you give yourself time to take a run at the manager who who you think is right for next season. But we've seen around Madrid not be rational. You guys were pointing out before about how this is a team that's getting older it's not as if Rao Madrid and realized this that was our whole thing when the pointed dig, and you know, they felt that they had Asensio and east go, and and, you know, the sa- bios and whatever else and they brought in shoes, and they thought they could manage that transition. The problem is a they could manage the transition and be they moved away from it Florentino Perez. If he was if he was sitting next to you guys, he would tell you and he were on us. He would tell you look I genuinely believe that Corinne Benza without Christiano could be a thirty goal season score. I jang. Relieved that Gareth bale would live up to his price, tag, and his enormous wages as soon as Jonah left, and and you could be kind of player. Instead it hasn't worked out that way. And you can I think you guys Riley said some of the blame on the players some of the blame goes on something. So some of the blame simply goes on. What's been a team that for the last four or five years really hasn't renewed itself or when they tried to renew themselves. They went down the road, and then quickly abandoned the project for whatever reason. And what you have now is is a gigantic tire. Fire is choice. I'm ringing the man's put that out. Oh, I don't. I don't think is very quick to go out and say, well, you know, if you get called a second time, it means that they really they really want you. I mean, Josie Marino comes back. It really is last roll of the dice. I think at a big club. If he comes back. He's gonna want guarantees in terms of terms of spending. I think he's might want some guarantees in terms of personnel. I don't know how happy it almost would be still wield a ton of influence there at the club deceive, marina rock up. That's what they need to decide. Do they want to go back to that type of manager where you will spend money you will generally be reactive? And it's a question of whether he can regain his Joe, and he won the Premier League not that long ago or whether they try to be more progressive, but I think the issues run deeper and they go right to Florida Tino at us. And and really some of the some of the decisions that were made a director of football level or more likely not made a director of football level, but may directly Florentine himself a lot more on its game on anxious time, not so much Jade, and that huge beach. Check it out. Don't on the three to the next round of the Champions League surprise, obviously doing the first three nail Wembley. Paul navy is is the price that they went to Dorman and one. Yeah. So that's a great result. Obviously with percent yesterday. If they get a week old and obsolete berries that can stay on the five minutes and fun was a good at least from from Wallis. Yeah. I mean, it was one way traffic yet. A great challenge from veteran. You had some final delivery from from Dortmund's Royce was in a great position Tolan challenge. Lewis to mix them save. So it was a barrel. Jeff, the barge unfort- whatever reason they had to withhold up because it didn't nothing crumble. So what will and not sense once that game to go on then didn't feel would as much as I twenty five minutes when Cain school all focus when Madrid pretty much. I mean it killed Elian Sagan because the first half creeks was a barrage. Yeah. No question Hugo you amount of much cames goal. Yes. Is usually important but has shaved has possession. Not just him. But the whole. I four. That's why this tight loot in the end easy. But it was fought from a halftime. If I was not no I'd be awarded one. It will be Kane. We'll get all the headlines of his go a great go from somebody who just kicked proven time and time again, he is up with the world's best. He is. And is a conversation that we were having the green room was that. If you were reality, though, are some of some of the big clubs across Europe, you'd think in men, what are we doing? Why are we wasting our time? Why are we not going after hurricane, and I know Spurs fans don't want to hear that. But the truth is is that he continues to score goals, and this sort of level and the way that he's doing. There was never a doubt. When Harry Kane went through that he was he was going to score. Of course, he was going to score he'd lose comforting here. He looks like he's being there at times four and he scored at before. And that's when you get that feeling us a player on the other hand dorm. Didn't have that feeling see they've they had had Harry Kane on the other side. I mean, we're talking to different story. Dorman day attack. They did not score in the case of Spurs attack. Maybe once or twice the score with Kane. That's game. You guys later mature performance from Spurs something that we haven't said in the past. It was today. There's a big night for poetry Tina wasn't because it could crumble and slow LL and. New stadiums agree, but they don't keep place, you know, mess out or par for talking of strikers in the world. He's next in line is the best off to lose to put the ball in the box by on well through Seattle, Joe. He's an old. Unsponsored gonna have to win some trophies or hurricane will not be suppose play for too much longer when they still very much, of course in the win this trophy seven favorites going to the now and win the champions. They actually being trim some twenty five to one, of course, no route Madrid on the vetting sign a years. Is being a dream star probably going to since taking charge and my just see United out of sixteen matches. Jeff's that one loss, of course, home against the second leg tomorrow. And it's the second leg the United go into pretty much almost reserve seven client who fainted enough. I like lost unavailable due to injury going into tomorrow as much. No real surprise me. He's like you look at the Pierre Jean. Massive favorites with that too late as well sixty six to one on to make it through to the cool to finals. Meanwhile, the other gang tomorrow much. Roma favorites? Remember, they will take too long lead into that Portugal against pool. Underdogs fine. We'll be looking back at both of those games. Pausing detail tomorrow shoulder joints. Survive if you ever Mississippi, you can download our daily podcast and listened to yesterday's council made era. Well, we were talking about the the new rules have been injured. I indicates life out, and we talked about the the penalty take a couldn't then touch the ball after it was safe. Well, what bothered because primarily Griff res by condemn would always in the same thing. He throws. Throws blessed down. But he he was talking about on TV and radio. Hey, it's no even true. So you apologize for something. But then you say what's your full collectively apologizing for the show? The voice of the show. Well, you know, all of this show while you re on you you hope for the time we've got your qualifies taking for the end of the month. Almost Moda Tang and miss the hamels not taking happen. Jimmy tied. Do they know that? Well, they do now Yogi love says thank you very much, but you're international career as well. You're international. It's strange way. You're international career is over quite I'm show the money. Yes. That's very if I was Miller, boating and Hubbell's, and they're still, you know, still wanted to play from a country and go off do I think I would say the other side of the he's one look still been the gentleman job from that perspective of the workup understand why he wouldn't. Fairplay till the eagle's actually goes his way to actually speak to these people is because they have been great for the country. But then it's up to them to say what to do with the information up to him toll road starting. That's complete. No, no. I suppose he's gonna ask. Why didn't you play his up? I mean says well placed unknowns. The retired is the please, please. It's only it. Let me spell the show. It's ted. They will land for Jimmy under underlaw everybody against the Netherlands scame of euro qualifying zero points, okay. Heavy to loss sweet Dhabi bounceback eighty two one victory. Now put some level on points with Bristol City of sick. Very key. In the championship is the fun place. Fool the playoffs. Mean well from page of a haleiwa team which made history humiliating end of an repeatable air. Already miss working around with your TV. I'm not gonna come on this. Don't be making it will be buried deep. Deep down. This is like an epitaph as an epitaph is something we may have discussing the policies and venire parameter. It's been a great story for them. It's been a jumbles the complete complete and if you wanna fix shambles bring mood in your. Oh, they said. He knows exactly. We'll be back tomorrow more of this until then defy. Welcome into extra time. Let's get to show Bush looks. Loan sequentially Real Madrid questions Ramage year was down his workshop Madrid game Stevie gets. We'll ching Liverpool. We was no, no. It would almost almost as if you would would go along again, you know, what he looked like like the rest of Real Madrid team. Yeah. Watch. We don't have it. That's it. It's all done that say, no there was no if it was England, it'd be different. Yes, england. There was no swear books. No. I'm Jane, ka ching. Love Rin shake love written lost eight news in the world. I really like it. We're supporting England angry man, you know. Issue. Eight me jingly you're not World Cup. When England played you would have enough. It should be like. Advertisers. Thing is you'll the normally you always saying, I don't believe his way Liverpool. Expose all he was. It was. Real Madrid today winning giving it long jumping on them for fun. Yeah. By the give. Going. That's. We're to can watch before getting upset show on the other. Other than intrigue you showed. It's early you actually, less than greens. You know, why? Because most of the gem shutting this hanging over imports. We'll Peres point marina in order to punish the place for this before. Players. We'd be punishing everybody in that. We're going to say, I think people forget how what the last days Wooding you Mike round. He didn't speak the media while six months around coup willed. That's no good on. None of this stuff is not moving and a Real Madrid was good going back to that. It may just be yet. Another step backwards. I love how Josiah Marino gets all these things not particularly McGregor United or media abortion wills he'd been for the last eight being working walking for media company. Oh, how'd you get an extra? Well. Really? Can you state? Be quoted as saying you go on a network and say this. Real madrid? There's just not a happy team. And this clearly a Hoppy cow comet. For more crates old Trump for over a period of months. It was which is often hop his big team up seen at many, year belief fully YouTube him. Typically YouTube why you. What you hate. But you could you couldn't have shocker here in the said, we Jolson because. Drooling rubbing his belly. And all that come all on us. Most people could come on here because it couldn't hock. No, obviously putting sauce. Quick enough it last ten sick Deva generally come on when he's running for free for each stormed off threes might because it was all Toche, you're showing. They wouldn't let the old easy out of on the actual. We'll show you. How does this affect out as legacy? All right. I leave and you lose he's not helping Gimenez either. Well, that's. I don't I don't think it makes definitely is done. What did which was up shortly brilliant on? Never take a year's consist goalscoring away from either of those two mess. I don't think I don't I don't really mantra this TV how Israel's defense if Ronald played with any difference Real Madrid's defense whole seasons. It'd be an absolute boost. So whether the I don't think it would have made any difference. I mean. Stoned of me think when you think of okay almost been played tonight. But when you think of. Been hopping all season with a four and you've Voronin raw most to cope. Coat was really doesn't make it is actually irrelevant to wonder what might have been with Rommel's because who took himself out of that position was said he'll most himself. So he say late show up. Look at those two. I saw those couplings. How'd you get those? Away put them on for you. Get us back on. So we. Look. No way, you put your heart. Koby does look. Vase decision against Madrid for losing his touch goodness. Actually, I correct decision. Wouldn't it was clear? No vision to the whole over only the last millimeter of the the ball was a not a poppy we watching the replays thinking figure given. Yeah. But he could but it could. So the answer is. Yes. Plus. Yeah. No question. Just five minutes on that fourth goal. Go that was a free freak that was pretty cool twenty three meaning. Sure, he meant. Yeah. Can moguls goal was must. Really is. I actually the Madrid. Yep. Would crank mine breaking down the expected goals Madrid? An axe Madrid's his high wasn't a in this match and also we'll sort of ramifications. This result would have next door. Well, I don't wanna get into Jim takes goes. But we may all of question. This called for. The free kick of it. Because definitely not expected. The false spun is called it from five yards or so, yeah. Yeah. Another one then the messed Costa Cianci's that news over the bar from an open goal. I'm top and. Yeah. Second half tide cross. So by my rate than there was at least three of four expected goals having this effect. Motorists Johnson's retaining. Was mortgage. Name are gonna have to. Away for the game. Please make Stevie tokens American southern accent. It's absolutely early. It is Stevie. Well, she can when you do. Each of your own men tells you away by this new show. Cufflinks? So I want to do the last question you'll southern Americanize demand. United have any chance tomorrow. Although is no. That was very. Shine. Today. All right bed. Normally the showman. Spills gone club. They'll go no show. Back to your place. That's what it's full time expected goal that you were going to do. Hey you.

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Madrid Best Barca in El Clasico

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Madrid Best Barca in El Clasico

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Remiss not actually helped bone shop over test into the back of the celebrations around for the house in the Spanish capital as it finishes Real Madrid to Vaseline nail calls a huge game regarding the significance the title race in Spain Round Madrid fat to the top of the Table One Clare of fossil and it also means that Zidane Saddam side have the advantage when it comes to heads a hedge which remember separate sides if they're equal on points ahead of goal difference Craig far from Classic Classic. I think it's fair to say but close enough was enjoyable. Second half was so weird because it was enjoyable from a Real Madrid Barcelona result but we were saying July second half. They've been in Real Madrid half for this ten minute period during the second half and harden and for Real Madrid. It was a little bit like the city game in some sense where the first half little timid bustling. Hedberg Chances Look more dangerous four or five and then there was like a kick up the bucks. I just pressed a little bit better the Pasta Sharper Sweat. She play. Tiffany. Cartier quite a lot full bucks with Palin forward and bustle of the answer. They really didn't have the answer. I was desperate for twenty minutes. Yeah from Barcelona Persona. Antibodies point of view. It was the over. Twenty minutes was done going on messy. We started out for us. We say Grease Mun watching what was going on. Nobody was dominant. And and and the last half of the four south it could have been three. No boss free really good CIANCI's and that makes you think what what what they really are Real Madrid. Because they clearly. What went the start of the game not to lose the game. They clearly tried to stay in good solid positions. But it could have been phenol done a half time so that can be then what has to be. There was what we saw in the second half when they could've shoot shoot a scored four goals and completely dominated again on the commentary that we had there was talk about grysman and possibly mountain graphic could have started in Greece Mun. Ms Thought chance right very good one in the first half where he was leaning Bach and he blended over but then there was another. There was another one ten minutes later. We're cement run down the right hand side. It was clear on greenman literally stood behind Raphael when he could have made it a run but an easy ball across the sex shot bolts and he had a top and an almost to me that you didn't want to go ahead and another one as well. It was it was on the path. Pathak spot in my opinion for him. He's on the rate Hans. Eight all institution chicken on his left. And he's the whole show instead he's looking around for Massey and he just ruled it to the state and coming away possession. There is no way that he does that when he's playing for Franz when he's blame France he drops a shoulder comes in. Say It's all corner. Meanwhile it's a conversation. We've had about Barcelona before. When messy has an off day they put in performances? I had a couple of chances. Didn't take them and then there's no answer by the way got a couple of times is where the game in the second half think valve. Mail the Miami Casimiro Israel on the edge of the box and it was you know there was no messing around today. I think Steve is right the first half because we're on putting on the pressure. Ideally wanted to bowl to drop further but when the challenges come in and you have to take a little bit. But it's not. It's not rocket science. The heavily reliant on St Louis Suarez on some of the other guys are not able to play the one thing from Real Madrid on. It was a surprise to some people as as they started to take control of the game. It was no surprise it. Tony Gross was the guy. Give me the ball. I under pressure. Marta just taking this thing out at the right time on getting on the Front for the right time because he's so good. Technically at Boston. The bill that ten minute period you will chain will yes those if Bossa go the half because Real Madrid? We're closing them in their own. Half they didn't do the island and stop the kimmage dude off and for that ten minute period. This wasn't city and doing to this team. This is what's happened to this team. He couldn't pasta each other. And I guess it's a combination of just go with the Luke's yet just couldn't go. Let's promise cap? Markazi is also with us your assessment of the classic. Oh I mean I think from Madrid perspective. What we're seeing. Is that the. Dan Treats these games and Keilor's his team to the opposition to what he wants to achieve. And you know the boys saying that row. Madrid didn't want to lose this game first and foremost and they came out and they. They absorbed the pressure more pressure than they would have wanted but then he made the changes and then bends in mind as as isolated as they were earlier in the game and view go back round. Madrid's record in terms of keeping clean sheets and not competing goals against Barcelona Madrid. It's been pretty darn good Cincinnati spin around. You're going back to last season. What was strike me from? This game is just the fact that there were a lot of eyebrows raised when it was set in that was named as the manager when Valverde got the sack and I know that Lewis is Luis Suarez is out and I know that about other injuries but there was no tactical response. It seemed to what was going on what you talked about. The fact they weren't playing out and the substitutions that you made didn't make much of a difference might be a little bit more passing of the ball and some of the stocks from previous games would entail without ball. I mean the they you know the desperation to get valverde out to get a guy who had less experience oil gently at that level that level of club there's no disabling deference as it's not like sticking out like a sore thumb wasn't stay over to the other. I think what your all the time was just to try and take the pressure off because they move where the Oh. They sold us on all. This guy is going to change this and that so you can't really say yeah right because you're going to give the guy at Johns so I think we all. I think we all took salad. But no we're seeing that really. Nothing's changed gabby made a noise. If I'm not mistaken no I I think it is not good but it's not. I don't think it's it's the same as Stevie on this point. Endless possession requires chemistry requires movement from the front guys. When you only have to front guys who. I don't know if he was hiding as you guys suggested. But but certainly wasn't on top of his game and messy an off night and those guys. Don't don't move the way you're you're supposed to. Then all of a sudden it becomes very very difficult and you find yourself playing in front of the opposing defense most of the time and you know they did create those chances in the first half. I thought was down to individual situations but then in the second half when round Madrid to move their center of gravity a little bit further up the pitch all of a sudden Barcelona had real issues in an even playing out from the back and said you had no answer for that you get the feeling. Obviously it's going to be a tight title race. Oh right down to the wire. Space is an obvious answer. Now as to who you think is going to win league off the back of today or idea from one to the what we're doing is not going to be unlikely to be an array sure dropping points which is a bit disappointing and also it's likely that. Real Madrid will have only leaguer to focus on in a sense that obviously they will go into that Manchester City second big underdogs as opposed to Barcelona. Have you got no already live in theory? You would imagine the possible through against Napoli and really get city so that full well if the pill in the second half performance of the performance that dead for periods in the second half against city. It's not a given you're right. I mean not favorites to go through but it's not like three or four scoreline so I would say at the moment because of the he's of -ness of the continuity of the coaching staff and Dodd knows what he wants. He knows his players. Batta doesn't have the major injuries that Bossa hobble. What the cried about I would say Real Madrid. Not because they've gone top of the League today but just because I think that a little bit bombs a moment okay. The reason you may be right. They may get knocked out and if they do then clearly that will help them truth as the been kanus stumbling and bumbling and sits out the season yeah so I'll go real but not with any huge amount of confidence last word on this guy said Rao Madrid before this game and I'm sticking to it. I feel a little bit vindicated. Barcelona I think also have a bit of a tougher running and the boys are right. The Champions League and if Madrid do go out I think that's another checkmark for them. Despite of course if you think everyone's talking nonsense you can always tweet us at ESPN AFC. It's always nice to hear your questions how you can check out the latest edition an extra time over on our youtube channel and now another addition of obvious news from GEICO experts. Now say that wearing more clothes in the winter will in fact help you be warmer. We asked cold victim. Trent Patterson about this. And here's what he said. It was the weirdest thing I was a little cold put on a sweater then wasn't cold like was also an obvious news. Gyco makes it easy to save money and easy to reach them with licensed agents available? The clock so switching is a really smart decision. That's obvious news from GEICO and taking on Manchester United Three minutes into this one. We'll start thinking stephen switched off to lexical. He's not concentrating properly. And it goes up even. It doesn't even see covet loom which is incredible easy ball lindelof. Israel someone something these countries on the other end Jordan. Pickford it felt hand scoring. Thank goodness you're here. He's England's number one goalkeeper currently however I don't think he's filling many people feel confidence he would make a great double save hand to keep it one one late on. Yeah I mean it does save the second one which is crucial. I think he should school. And then what about this? Initially a great save from damaged hair to keep it one wants to keep cigarettes in at six and then down offside position it deflects off MC law goes into. The back of the goal is given bar and this allows the goal. I think well on chill. It wasn't happy come on the Headmaster Rick Gave Him a Red card? Most prized gave really good in the first half and we saw that car color on twelve cents off at the end. This is what he had to say about incident. I think it was a really difficult decision in our view. Citizens didn't affect the vision of fair. You have to decide if the vision of the hair is affected or not. An everyone knows the decision can be viewed differently. This shell Shell said told me he gets distracted because season is that God. What do you make of it? I I think he's correct. This is a really really difficult decision and you get into the question of whether VR should intervene. But of course. It's an offside decision. So the does intervene But there's there's such an element of subjectivity. Here in terms of you know does interfere. He's he's he's on. The ground is interfering with an opponent by being there personally. I'm not sure that he is and I thought that. Go should stand can also see how that might be disallowed as well and again. You're back to this decision. This is something where it's not something you see on offsides because there is interpretation here. I feel more comfortable. If the referee looked at it we spoke to former referee. Friend of the show. Peter Watson. He says they got the decision. Correct off the back of. He's GonNa he's going to be the FAA and the the referee Angelo. It comes on the show it comes in now is hardly at run until the river right. I know she's the Red Cow. Lick some headmaster. Honestly just Wayne's me up. We've talked about this. I'M WE GAB. It's subjective and I could see the referee. I think it was John. Marshall was Var maintain but ultimately go ask yourself would have saved that deflation hide seconds to not win there and I think the answer is a clear. No but that's the part of the law. That's the problem. Isn't it well so for example? If I don't play in front I mean on the goalkeeper and it goes top corner. I'm never gonNA make that save. The fact he's they're still means the goal only brush it is? Let's get the brass tacks premier league of said the founder Saluda because Goosen impaired the goalkeeper's version of the Bolton as complete and utter garbage. But the hair second here said we somebody. Please tell me when the shots taken. His vision is impaired. Why is he moving to the say that the ball's going to a feast versions impaled see? It's complete nonsense. Does that influence to go capability to make a save? That's the crux of the matter. And the answer is no because he's already Stevie said Movin clearly overseas right and there's no plant detainment takes a deflation is is planned to defeat ratepayer and when it goes cigarettes in her drags the leg away is planned to defer. There's not a hope in hell is going to get three to four yards to the left. We call and ask him. But it's subjective and he's in bed this why is it gonNa keep it moving the ray every kind of see the bowl? We'll be talking about the big picture of that result. We're GONNA talk for when a moment. But of course I was another game today in the Premier League as well Spurs taking on walls great performance by the visitors especially fact that they were one down after thirteen minutes along with the goal but just following earning kiss and of course it pops off of off the goalkeeper sticks home. Fourteen minutes later wolves respond. I've talked to the right wing getting forward and just say just go there and go on the goal then. Halftime says retake the lead. Nice finished memoria. Didn't we had this? These anemones left on a look. At what ten say divorce brings it in? And it's in the bucket fully our the mall the Wolves respond DOC and say into Georgia to to trial. Trial does really keep the move going stayed on his feet Simone and then Delta involved once again his bull through to route. Jimenez this beautiful finish as well from the strike guy. I think just goes too far too. And that gives them as tainted picky sport which he finish his Tottenham to wolves threes. Let's just take a look at what that means regarding the premier league table live close to find out the fate way. Clearly we'll be title winners. City opened his second defeat of Friday's Third Chelsea fourth. After draw against boomer. They are now three points. Clear of united in faith woes now level on points with social sign forty two two points ahead of Spurs by the way Sheffield United. Have a game in hand. I've chef unite went. They move up to fifth in the table waged with Manchester City. Being banned as it sounds from Europe next season means that the blades will be in the Champions League next campaign now. According to the bookies it will be less the city and Chelsea who will finish in the top four Manchester United then to join them in a Champions League spot. If indeed city on not allowed to qualify Garrett has become the most interesting thing about the primarily as an given that Liverpool forty run away with the title. Oh yeah without question. I think at this stage it is a legitimate wide open a race which was five teams going for four spots and possibly of Leicester continue to lose. They could get get sucked in there and it could be sixteen going for for for for two spot. So it's before you get into the whole business of whether city get banned for not. I'M NOT GONNA draw on the fifth so at least we got something to keep us going in these last couple of months of the season. He's very true. You take a look at it though. Chelsea hitting a bad. Patrick very much the wrong time. United Looking Better Brunette finances come in and really lifted this team. Yeah and the phone shape get behind the front two system with getting told me and Fred macmurray today to try and give them more of a solar base actually in the first half the played particularly well. This ship at goal gave away. There's nothing they can do. Some basic from the half. But that's the pasta really able to pasta quick bodies forward. The movement was good and they really dominated ever looking for Calvin Novato. All the more disrupted in the second half but there is no united in much better shape at the moment to get to the top four or five than they were three months ago. I think so. What in the basically we've kind of Ronin this team's all of it Bruno Fernandes. And even golly schools as horrendous goalkeeping from paying for it out of the quiz five scoring goals concern. We're coming from in order for them to get in the taught for all the top five when just reminded now this week focus will turn to the FA Cup and on the next edition of the show. We'll be looking back at Portsmouth against Arsenal Fratton Park. We have a new lead at the top area after this weekend with the wind. Es means that they ought to clear now via venter's match against into Milan was of course the spun because of the Corona virus meanwhile Atalanta winning by seven goals to to to maintain a three point lead over Roma in Fourth Gabala to digest. Let's start off with the announcement to postpone that game between you. An inter- I know is when you unhappy with. I wasn't happy with the way it went about. A lot of people are happy with it. Also because we're not sure when it's going to be played. The talk was of moving the entire match day or all five postponed games from this match day until May thirteenth and moving the copay Talia final which which endured specially weren't pleased with The difficulty is it's difficult to find a date to move it to because of course you've got the euro's coming up and you're somewhat limited in you can't simply extend the season but having decided to play it behind closed doors. Doing one eighty just seemed. Frankly unfair and unreasonable and now the talk is that they might actually simply play those postponed games next weekend. The weekend of of May seventh and eighth which of course and then moved the week of the Games that were supposed to be played that weekend at some point into the future so the situation is evolving and changing every day. would have been a lot easier just to play the Games and get it done with the game that did take place. Obviously the one team that seems to be benefits benefiting from all of this at the moment is lot. Co they just keep they keep taking a huge win for them and of course they. They jumped ahead of us in the table and they keep plugging along. The pressure isn't getting to them. They've got different people stepping up when what matters. And you gotTa give credit for she morning. Zygi because If there are jitters or whatever he certainly very good at keeping a lid on it meanwhile Atalanta of course seven. Two away against the lead share. What a Tale. This is turning into tremendous. I think you're the third highest scoring team in Europe. They had the twelfth highest wage bill in in Syria. Of course they're they're doing some serious damage in the in the Champions League in sometimes when you watch them play the way they go one on one and all over the pitch and they gamble but they create so many chances and in a game like this where you get the to the other team gets into it and you wonder which way it's going to happen. Did they go out and score five goals? Duvan getting getting Hatrick Maria. Getting on the scoresheet as well. They're easily one of the most fun teams in all of Europe to watch right now. Because you feel like something's always about to happen for the third consecutive season Manchester City. All your caravel winners defeating. Aston Villa this time round and Wembley by two goals to one They would take two nil lead in the first half. Thanks to goals From a Guero and robbery matter. They'll make an interesting just before the ha but in the end Manchester City holding on fate to win gamma call. This is a Fun Cup Fund. Wasn't it turned out to be? I mean it looked like the fund was only going to be on one side and the first half hour is the city. Took a tuna lead What was interesting was seeing pep. Guardiola go in and change his line-up not so much bravo goal. Which we're used to but getting start for for the local Kid Phil foden leaving. But none of those Silva and Kevin O'Brien initially on the bench and then obviously came and made a game of it was giving man of the match in the end. His Fight Song playlist club with so much talent. That is difficult for many games has been talk in England about well cut win the League now. So let's just get the team then you've got to go to try and keep everybody. Fresh show is not adopted. Selva Kevin Debroy read marriage. It doesn't care about England either. Doesn't he kiss? I'm sure he cares about the young one? Yeah just putting them in for the sake of a while. She's still big jump. Easley Games in EFI Cup games would be to the detriment of the shop reservoir the players so it's difficult for them to get a regular game but he's a heck of a talent. He's got great balance. Is it patronised and say Villa? Did well not really you know we came to new the they would have to fight and scrap for NFL Magor and they did lead future. He's the one in the second half from the head the rate at the end Bert. But they're only was to try and snatch something and the reason that was enjoyable was because the closer got today the end whilst there was only one goal. Aston Villa Fans. You stopped believing that maybe they might get a little bit comb and they zone over. Yeah exactly and so the atmosphere. The atmosphere changed and there was a attention to which made it enjoyable as patronising journey. We can obviously didn't play in the League and they dropped into the bottom three. They go up chilly. Wallet Vice City a few weeks ago home. Sex won anything for them. Today was a bonus. They wanted to win but it was a bonus. It didn't WANNA get was another shocking. Joel Right. Because they've got a big fight to stay up and the League and the don't WanNa stop dot conference anymore. The will somewhat competitive the rent rate to the end and not something for them to take away for the rest of the season where they've got a heck of a fight in the hunt as I say if they'd want today then it would have been a big shock and a big bonus but the important thing was the addition shape and there were competitive them a lot more reactions. That game at Wembley of course discussions about Alice happened across Europe. It's been a busy weekend. For Gavin Gills. Digest the latest edition of the podcast jobs on Monday. The week always worth checking out. Be Sure to take a look over on our youtube channel. That brings us to the end of two US. Paper foreseeing believe every decision that was made today by officials was the correct one. Here's the problem or qualified in these lovely. I think site but that ball set pretty low. Let's be honest so as particularly in the last two weeks date. Thank you very much craig into Stephen Mean. Craig will be back tomorrow with Islam. Ladies and gentlemen until then the by what means delays edition of extra time quite a twenty four hours in the world of football. Thank you very much for all of your tweets. A lot about the classic. Oh a lot about Leeann essay was does it mentioned Renaldo. Where was messy hiding? Did they find him yet? Always best game. No people just can't wait no matter what this guy's done for over a decade. They all have to put a quite one quite the the office got the old pilot quite scared really small minded some people out over gap linked. Maybe he was told that Donald was often stands with a little little messy hextall dot work. I don't know maybe they'll do not a bad game. It happens annoyed. Venetia teenager since messy to score at our PLASCO Gab. Can He'd be the real deal. Obviously they stay. Spent a ton of money on him And then all of a sudden he wasn't even the The Best Teenage Brazilian Forward around Madrid because Rodrigue. Oh all that all that time. I think he's somebody who still rising even in that game. He's don't make mistakes and this is one. It's good to remind ourselves that the guy is just nineteen years old. I know it feels like he's been a Real Madrid for the second season but You know he's got canes to iron out. I think it didn't good when when he was dropped from from the first team for a while But look he shows up in a team. Gareth Bale even hazard those are great people to to to learn from to look up to and yeah. I think he's got another level to go to no question about it. Maybe more than one St Pius. Just maybe as Lucky Amigo. Who had not come off the PK? Schindler listen some things a lot. You know what what Labor was he kept Oughta. It didn't hide it so many opportunities not say against some of the one on one and he tried to go say them sometimes. They should have passed when he typed. It comes with experience and you'll get out by plan to lend form you know it's one thing to to make a decision. Judah in a game and then keep repeating game off the game. It's another thing to lend format and changed up. Why stevie keeps saying that Reynolds isn't Whoa class? Let me change going one. Four Champions League. Well yes considerate well. Cloud Dyke is world class by winning a single Champions League right. I'll repeat us for the three thousand time when you've got to listen defendant decision making right right ultimately because when it's price you only go so you have to be cool. You have to be controlled when you see coup and controlled. Does that remind you of Rommel's how do you get really has been crawling around? See when he didn't win them carry him. Did they You know a key parts of as you smash it over the main points now saying if you could come collecting and control yes. Only a two hundred and sixty two yellow cavs and twenty-six red cow. That's the complete opposite of cool cow and in control. Is that just politics Dan at the way another to get so many yellow cows that means you often people which means either the beaten or your position to start with. So he's all of these. Things is nothing. I'm listening good player. Maybe he's great teams. But you don't just rock up and you're lucky to come in the tuna sixty two yellows endogenously all of and by the way cotton cloths but you. It's a CV that you can't argue against WHA- understand why well listen if you don't have you don't think we're told you makes any difference. Then I'm wasting. I think it's just it's just part of who he is. Isn't it as apply it to sixty two yellows twenty-six red cow? There's somebody who's read messed coming through these years. And then he's played world clock well. It doesn't matter if you've won everything but he has scholling would you prefer you with his CV or would you have preferred to? I've never said anything was wrong. We seavy toll gs a good well. I'm just telling you WANNA clues put then I in Ohio. How many yellow cards and red cards? Some delake Paolo Maldini with hard. Yeah 'cause I would consider having a world-class something the art of defending amongst others. Who might nine tell me roughly? I don't know I'm sure it's a lot less than that. Said heroes like think is one of the top three in the history of Football. Maybe even top two by by this stage. You're setting the bar kind of high with on DVD from that perspective. But could it be that secular almost as just an incredibly atypical defender and he brings so many other attributes to the table From Madrid perspective. They more than make up for the fact that he gives away yellow and red cards and sometimes just positioning is. The water should be any gambles too much rash and whatever but on balance all the other attributes makeup a world class player of the world class player is being rush and over the extending yourself. Making I mean come on man I'll come on. Tv CD's pay played. You must have played with guys who maybe were one footed or who. Maybe I had something. Maybe something very basic just couldn't do particularly well but then they could do other things so well the manager always have them in the lineup because the good things that they did far outweighed their weaknesses. Right it's part of football. Maybe this is what what's going is next question. What DOES MARINA AFTER? Due to make people happy he was winning games earlier with the defensive mindset which was not acceptable so they play modern football quote on quote. Lost people are still unhappy. Is MARINA THE ONLY PROBLEM HERE GAB? He's not the only problem but Maria didn't change the way he played because people were unhappy with it. Good managers don't do that. Great managers don't do that and certainly a guy like Joseph Marino doesn't do it if he changed against wolves today by the way. I'm not sure how much he changed. Because he took the lead in and they got back into it. I'm sure he wanted to win the game if he changes because he thought it would give spurs the best possible chance of winning this match. I think it's as simple as that and the reality is he took over team that she'll remind you many times it's fourteenth of the table now. They're what seven coming knocking on the door Depending on whether the United win their game in hand and depending what happens elsewhere and today a game got away from them. That's that's all it is and you can't have it both ways. The the fact of the matter is they weren't particularly good and one games earlier today. They've played better and they lost the game. But it's not because marina decided who people are being critical of me. Let me change the way I play. No He's going to do what he always does. He puts out the best team To get the resulted needs. And I'll tell you what he wouldn't have been happy with a draw against wolves he wanted to win this. Because Wolves are a direct opponent remains versus hunt for for a champion spot beaten. Yes God Rossi. We can go play more cohesive team and we'll yeah but they have lost three straight games now one of course in the Champions League so holly vote again doesn't tell the biggies known since to not talking about What did you do to occupy yourself when you were struggling to play golf? Read eat drink. Beer often see Steven Craig. Meditating to clear their minds in pill form yes. Nothing changed now. You didn't do anything to try. And all those things are arranged apart from the meditation. Well did you use to read always reading? Every three should be diverse. Did you. Yeah of course you take us. Oh my goodness anybody can play event. If you're over eighteen recommend blocking the Dell Stabach in general not address room in the mall and trading zones during the week of the paper. I was reading a newspaper right. Yup I just know. It's unfortunate for the newspaper industry. Whichever engine no. But nobody's just you know something to be said becoming. The paper was the racist VIP support. Notice AFFORD WHAT STEVE. Our operator to lutely. Yeah they pay you going to literally voice go. Who is the captain of ESPN FC? There is a captain. Isn't just a team working together to provide the best product on a daily basis spoken like a cup predictions Mars? Fa Cup match between pumping and astle start with cab. I would imagine arsenal have this. Because there's several divisions of Portsmouth in dark would say a massive arsenal also as well unfortunately finish on a negative. No Atlanta have confirmed that Joseph Martinez torn is ACL Solas may miss now much probably all of the season. Thank you very much a gentleman. 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Caught Offside: Manchester City EMERGENCY POD

"Caught Offside with Andrew Gummy. Jj Davani my goodness. Oh my goodness and emergency. Podcast caught off side from the upper west side of Manhattan and from Midtown Manhattan at caught off sides Auxiliary Towers Andrew Gumming. Jj defining what is up brother. Andrew I I am stunned in an office Looking out over midtown office you could say about would fish. L. Mubara see very owner magister city. Who himself I'm sure is pretty stunned today. while you know it's funny because sometimes we like you know we're we're hard on twitter. We mocked twitter. And things like that but I gotta hand it to Well let me find the exact tweet here. I got to hand it to one of our listeners. At Swedish car eight fifty. Who just sent US each a tweet with a link to the article about Manchester City being banned from Champions League play for two seasons and he just wrote Oh my goodness boys emergency pod and I thought what and then I opened the article and thought Oh my God yes. Emergency Pot emergency pot this is. This is madness and it's a thing that's been kind of danced around talked about for really a couple of years now of whether or not Manchester City with all the financial might that comes from Shakhman source. Pockets if they would ever if that financial might would ever find itself outside of the boundaries of what is allowed by the sport And today we have come to find out and there will surely be. Multiple appeals to this. And this isn't going to be necessary decided overnight but we come to find out today that he has gone outside of the boundaries and Manchester City. Have as a whole and they had been banned from Champions League play for two seasons And I guess. Jj the only thing. I can really think of for a club like them to receive a penalty like that. I mean this is essentially like there. Tell me if this is dramatic but it feels like. This is the closest thing Manchester City in today's iteration of the Premier League and Manchester City. Like this is the closest thing they can experienced relegation. I feel like yeah. Of course if you look at the defined ams on the clear aims of this club was not just to win multiple premier leagues but to win the European Champions League and for them to be not in. That competition is a death sentence even for two seasons because this was being built around the vision of of of Pep Guardiola. This club is being tailored over a period of time prior to his arrival so that he could come in and seamlessly or maybe not seamlessly but certainly quickly take city to a position. They've never been in European football and this destroys all of that in one fell swoop. Oh my I mean doesn't ever and we'll get into What this could mean for Manchester City moving forward from the perspective of their roster and from their perspective of their manager. But I guess. What's first and foremost what's most important? I guess is JJ trying to understand? What exactly it is that they did that. Fell Afoul of the rules And I'm going to be honest This is this is complicated stuff. And it's like when you're talking about you know financial fair. Play this. These aren't necessarily the reasons that we love sports like. Oh I look forward to these podcasts. So much right to talk about money and ownership and financial laws of sports like. That's not like the fun part but I mean my God on days like today you can't help but avoid it This all stems from articles that we referenced fairly frequently on this podcast in Der Spiegel. The anonymous footballer where it was essentially just kind of like a dossier of just leaked information pertaining to different clubs around Europe and and you know allegations of this and that and and Manchester City's name came up In this and that that was kind of like the beginning I guess of where we are. Today yes I'm looking right now at the two thousand Nineteen Article by By that was inch Beagle By Rafael Bushman on Kristof winter back and it basically comes out of the football leagues documents and it. Oklahoma City's owners have used this surreptitious company in the Cayman Islands Conceal Player Investment Fund And you know it it even goes but I mean it's been coming down the tracks because in Spiegel Article It's two thousand fourteen. Manchester City reached a settlement which way for to avoid such penalty so like a ban by as far back. As six years ago you had discovered violations and I'm reading from speaker by the way to its for financial fair roots which prevent club owners from investing unlimited sums of money into organizations was not allowed to spend significantly significantly more than at arts since Manchester was bought by Schick months or Ben. Zayed on the hand though. The club hasn't made much of an effort to keep it strategy a secret. It has been trained to buy. Its Way to the top of football world by spending exorbitant sums of money on infrastructure players. No matter what the cost you if investigators didn't believe that clubs assertions that certain sponsors from Abu Dhabi had no connection to the shake. They suspected that these companies were also used utilizing a surreptitious investment vehicle to face the clubs revenues. The trump's boss Khaldoon al Mubarak said at the time that the settlement felt like more than a tiny inch on added that the team would continue continue pursuing it strategy considering the gravity of the accusations facing it. I'm a box had gotten off extremely likely. Well it appears as if the chickens have come home to Roost de continuing investigations have brought us to this point right now. last year Some of our listeners will remember that Manchester City's own social media an old. Oh its own media house at did an interview. A wide-ranging introver- Would Khaldoon Al Mubarak which talked about City the gray football that we're playing the ambition to structure also about the investigations and the on going investigations and it started first with the allegations by heavy Tobias the head of the League On the comments he made about how Manchester City were distorting football. And then it moved forward to the actual right at the end of the interview and you can check it out on Youtube. It's easy to find the actual investigations going on and Calderon Mubarak spoke about how confident he was about. City about what they've been doing about the ongoing investigations away and and I guess no. The worst case scenario for city has has reared its head. Yeah it really is. I think that's something that we need to impress upon people who are kind of just familiarizing themselves with all this. The penalty that Manchester City received today is By financial fair play standards a very severe one the two year ban from Champions League or Europa League competition as well as a thirty million pound fine on top of that a message was clearly being sent to them that I don't think it's just that they broke the rules. I think it's also the way in which they tried to deceive the committee that this was a thing that was happening. I'm reading now from the Guardian from their coverage of this Let's see shake Mansour of the Abu Dhabi ruling family was mostly funding. The huge sixty seven point five million pound annual sponsorship of the city's Shirt Stadium and academy by his country's airline Eddie. Hod One of the leaf email suggested that only eight million of that sponsorship in two thousand fifteen sixteen was funded directly by at you had and the rest was coming from an source owned company vehicle for the ownership of city the Abu Dhabi United Group. you know it's like these are blurred lines when a guy kind of like owns all of these businesses that are now sponsors of the club. You know it's it seems like it's just a situation that is so right with potential pitfalls and for chances to deceive the the governing body and in the end it's you know it's kind of one of those things where this has been long suspected so. I guess no one can like it would be almost disingenuous for us to be completely dumbfounded and shocked. This could have happened but I guess there. There is that like realization of. Oh my God they were doing it like. Oh my God is that you actually stepped up and delivered. What is such an absolute blow to them Because look what we talked about on the podcast for the last few weeks months. Even we've talked about the divide between the haves and the have nots in football and this claim to move towards a Super League in Europe and we've talked regularly. How UEFA placate the big teams just to keep the Champions League together as we know it we know we give they. They try as much as possible to to you know Make sure that the big jobs in the big leagues are satisfied. So they won't blow this whole thing off and the surprise really is that they would do this to magister city. I'm shocked to be honest. Which because it's funny how it's just in the in the last one. I mean Mega Delaney. Mostly absolutely raging. Because he's put out a piece. That's being tweeted and re tweeted by everyone from Gary Lineker to the top journalists in England America talking about money and how football is broken on and here we are right now would would city are rather with UEFA checking back against this effectively and saying that no we will not allow this to stand. We brought in financial fair play for a reason which is something me and you regularly joked about and laughed about. And we know what? How foolish do we look now? No but but the fact that that actually do. It is very very Stunning to me. And I mean the problem I think now is that in one of the football leagues documents on. I don't recall who said it in the Matt who are alleged to have said it in the city archive but that. They said they wouldn't care about this that they would throw lawyer after lawyer did spend a hundred thirty thirty million one hundred million whatever it took to flight on anything that will come up against them. And that's not challenged for you with the quarterback. Yes you're absolutely right and I and I can't help but wonder if this is kind of not. This is the first time that financial fair play has come into play but the severity of it like like I said a message is being sent and Jj don't you just wonder now how many other clubs around. Europe are like shaking in their boots thinking like. Oh my God here. They come like are. Are we going to be next like we've talked? It's unfair to just like throw allegations out there. But like PS must there must be people in those offices. That are just terrified right now. I love the the the the kind of guarded way. We have to be about these things when you know it's obvious. Massive amounts of money injected into a club has to come from somewhere. You don't become Manchester United with their commercial revenue model or Liverpool. Even with. There's overnight when you're not you know so the money coming from somewhere and it had to be get got into the KKOB's In some kind of boy some kind of economic vessel. That was maybe not a hundred percent. Kosher it's just you know obvious but we have to. There's gotTa be some clubs who are now i. I'm all over the place with this. Obviously my head is floating with thoughts. But I'm wondering if you wave as a body said you know we can be submissive to degrade her trans of football only for so long. This this This kind of superpower league is coming down the line. Our only option is right now to go on the offensive and city with the you know plethora of of the of allegations against them. You know it was if you a busy. What I'm saying is if you wait for knocked to find city now and to do this now then that's it. There are no world's left to conquer in terms of US Regulatory bodies if they would say if you ever would not say stop a no further note sitting then short then then that would be it. They would have lost the most important bottom. Yeah And You wonder to like it says in the statement that Manchester City also were guilty of failing to cooperate with the investigation. Like if they if they might have been able to avoid the like the level of harshness that they wound up getting had they just kinda played along here But man this is from the Guardian again financial fair play introduced in two thousand eleven with the aim of encouraging football clubs across Europe not to overspend on players wages restricts the amount club owners can put into cover losses sponsorship boost revenues and therefore the amount the clubs have the spender financial fair play so the perception man sewer himself was in fact funding. The Eddie had deal led to the serious allegation. It's city had deceived UEFA C. F. CB which was responsible for ensuring compliance with financial fair play. Yeah I'm reading here from From the Accident Rob Harris. Who is I mean? If there's anything going on football financial wise are are in terms of breaches of financial fair play. Rob Is always on top of these things on the the key sentence for me in. This is that in the twentieth working case. There's a sense not just a sense. It's probably a fact that cities seem to cooperate with you. D- Adjudicator Chamber am reading from. The statement has also found that in breach of the regulations. The club this the point you made under failed to cooperate in the investigation right by the CFC. I mean that that's got to be the key point here like the cover up is almost worse than the crime and say that we say that all the time the fact that I hate talk increases but the fact that they would that they would flow into their faces. Like this shorty. Shorty push away To make to make a decision But now again like we talked about their Spiegel than two thousand nineteen and football leagues. And all that I mean. Rob Is An Associated Press a read from two thousand eighteen. About how much city was facing a Champions League band? This is being in the works. It's just whether those in UEFA had the gut had a to borrow a phrase by Troy Deeney cojones Zia to go ahead and do it man just like. I'm just thinking of like the the ramifications of this because it's already been you know by Manchester City standards. This has not been a good season. They're not GonNa win the League and it's not going to be close. They were on track to qualify for Champions League. But that's now out the window All their eggs now kind of are truly in this basket of like they win the Champions League now because when they come out of this let's just say whatever appeals are now go down Let's say that everything is upheld and what we know to be the case today winds up being the way that it is in Manchester City have disband like in two years time or in three years when they're getting ready to come out of this what will they look like like our. I gotta believe that Pep Guardiola is not gonNa be around through the. They were already rumors that maybe his time at city was growing thin. Well not rumors the way he was talking the other day he did his usual You know kind of veiled commentary about when the it's not as usual but he kind of see the thing off. He's being sarcastic Ardo because he is comfortably one of the most sarcastic people. I've ever seen in action so he was kind of saying well if I if I go You know but I mean the fact that he leaves. I can't overstate how central Guardiola's vision of football has been has been to the academy recruiting The way the team plays every. Don't forget it was. I twenty eleven or twenty twelve that he garish dam was was was charged with setting all this what had traditionally been relegation fodder occasionally in the thirties and in the sixties. An amazing team but generally a floundering club they charge tikki. Burger stand with making them Barcelona. That's what the judge ause. And so this was settled right before pat on his PECs. Not There I mean no. We should say I don't know how this works. While they appeal to the court of Patrician for sports I presume they remain banned. Yes I think so But you know what I don't know I shouldn't pretend to be an authority. The thing I wonder about is this idea of whether or not they can continue being great even while this ban is in existence. And that's kind of a two-pronged thing. 'cause obviously you know you need great players to continue being great and will great players want to go to Manchester City if they know there's no hope of competing in a Champions League however however simple well it depends I say the answer. A lot of people follow the money. I mean you know rubbing Yo ended up with a with before goldmark Mark Hughes you know On the on the steps of the Manchester City ground. How did that happen? That was because of the money. So they'll still attract if the ownership group to back city still. They'll still have the money to be. I mean extremely competitive but it's just the whole structure of the code is bit round pepper. Did have to in in a sense. Start again if pep leaves Miguel Delaney's tweeted again. Another person. Who was you know all over this stuff? All was worth acknowledging and all this problem with financial therapy is not the same as whether the rule should be enforced. If the rules exist it would be a mockery. If they weren't enforced right we. That's we. That was pretty much the point. We made our area. We had thought that this was kind of a toothless threat and now I think we're all realizing today that no this is like this is the wakeup call that a lot of clubs around Europe. Maybe needed to to here is is this. I mean this is a this is the powers that be In UEFA acting to protect what exists now and not let it get further down the line. it's not just enforcing roles from Andrew this could be a a watershed moment for the future of football in the biggest competition in the world. Now one thing that's important. There is obviously another side to this. We've reference Manchester City in their appeals And they are as you would mostly expect. They are vehemently denying that they have broken any rules. David Con has He has tweeted saying Manchester City again. Say They have quote irrefutable evidence? That Sheikh Mansour did not mostly fund the sixty five point million dollar Eddie Hod sponsorship the two year ban and thirty thirty million euro fine shows the UEFA bodies did not believe that and they concluded that the club's deception was very serious So this will this all be heard in court and this will all come to light of whatever this evidence. Is that Manchester City. Say that they have We'll I guess we'll find out what that is and we'll all be left to decide for ourselves whether or not we believe them but UEFA did not and it's why we are where we are today so the other thing. That was interesting. Jj is how this all started with their Spiegel so it it it began with Leaked or so. I guess they were leaked or stolen materials and Manchester City. Said they were taken out of context. Now they're spiegel anonymous their source Just calling him the name John And that was it. That was as far as they're willing to go but over time he was identified as a Portuguese. National Name. Re Pinto. Yes and he has now been charged in Portugal with a hundred and forty seven criminal offenses including hacking and other cybercrimes. He denies that This is what I mean. I wonder in the future. Route will reap Pinto. Be Be seen as something of a of a rebel hero for football because none of this would be as exposed as it is right now except for his. I don't know what you call it. At whistle blowing is is that the term these days. I guess I mean whistle-blowing is usually done by somebody within an organization that would be like if If Pep Guardiola like if he revealed all this this is kind of more of like Julian assange attacking's yeah essentially God unbelievable now the other thing that I'm very curious about and I have not seen anything yet suggesting what is GonNa Happen but Manchester City. This year were GONNA like they're gonNA finish probably second or third in the League what what happens. Now in terms of Champions League qualification. Like will they just now become the? Let's say city finished. Second will now be who finishes first third fourth and fifth that qualify or will be. Will it just be three teams from England that go? I very curious how this will work while I think Considering our conversation this week which everyone should listen to across all forms with the with Sheffield United on blades analytics. I mean Chevy United fans got to be I mean everybody else in the chase for two Japanese spots is now this things just got real for a lot of for like. It's so funny you're right. We just talked about how there are nine teams that feel they have a legitimate or the teams all the way up through knife in the table. All feel like they have a legitimate shot. Will I mean if we felt that way before this? Like if you're an Everton fan wolves are about to play Leicester. Like how much bigger does it feel like that game? Just got now now with all these other clubs feeling like Oh my God like we kind of thought. We had a chance before. But they're waking up today realizing we are in this like this is going to be amazingly compelling battle. Offer those Champions League places I mean. What a headache for the primary now. Water an absolute headache for. They've also well first of all I mean. This is one of their flagship clubs. Isn't that what you mean? Is it in the sense that they've been one of the most successful clubs of of the of the last decade? But but you talk about yourself that this was a floundering club. Flagship clubs you think Liverpool and United Arsenal. Like those are really the ones like. The League is bigger than Manchester City. They will survive this without any issue. I never said they wouldn't but there is a there is an issue for them Concerning Manchester City. I mean if you waive up is questioning cities break of fair play then surely when you look at the way. The city team that broke records in the Premier League is view how how then do do do the Premier League as a whole view city you know and they also on a practical point of view. How are they going to re like? We just discussed. How are they going to reallocate? You know the European Places I mean. You've got pep Guardiola Andrew. You've got Sergio Aguayo. You've got like whether we like it or not off the last few years if you want to say the last few years. I'm not calling them in an historically Greg Globe they are. There are flagship of right. Now there's no question about that that is you got to say. That's a problem for the Premier League this elephant in the room. That's that's quite likely going to be in your top one or two positions for the next few years depending on how all this breaks down on the reaction of ownership on the manager granted but a team that could conceivably be this elephant in the room. That is this huge power in English football yet. He's not allowed to compete in Europe because of the way it acts off the field. What did it primarily? Just ignore that. No I'm not saying they need to ignore it but they might feel. They might be happy that you kind of did like did their bidding that they felt like there might have been this dirty club here and like the away. Fa may have just handle this for them and almost done them. A favour in some ways like the premier league so they'll be fine so if Manchester City falter so okay so the clubs that the premier league really wants to prop up like like you've talked about. The historically great clubs like Manchester United may potentially benefit from something. Like this Tottenham may benefit from something like this you know. Chelsea arsenal like a huge. Don't forget the morning. Andrew a huge money member of the elite club of the biggest league in the world has been our is allegedly is alleged by the governing body of European football to have acted in a way that means they must be excluded from European competition. That's a massive problem for primarily a massive problem. I guess I see what you're saying but I really think that they'll I think they're I think they'll be fine. I don't I don't know I don't I don't see it. As just like quite the emergency for the Premier League. It's an emergency for Manchester City. But I I don't know city are They are off this weekend. Their next inaction on Wednesday at home against West Ham Their their Champions League campaign resumes at the end of the month against Rao Madrid. Oh my God the pressure on them now to get this Champions League trophy before the rug is kind of pulled underneath them is. It's just been ratcheted up several lodges. They used if they've booed the Champions League before. What's it going to sound like now? I mean you're right but like and fans will always side with their club. That's kind of like the social contract that you make when you decide to become a fan you always give your own guys the benefit of the doubt but I mean really like. This isn't a UEFA problem it. This is a Manchester City problem. Everyone knows the rules and UEFA is just enforcing them. I like we said. We'll find out if Manchester City have evidence to prove this to be not true but like you know Manchester City fans like we said they can't. You can't be completely stunned. There had to always be this part of you deep down inside where you thought something like this one day could come and essentially I didn't. I mean I'm afraid that kind of awareness and self-awareness certainly in the twitter sphere is is is not evident Manchester City funds. And that's another point if you're if you're somebody it's going to get toxic. I mean the way that they sit. He finds an old granted city fans from around the world. Not just for Manchester have coalesced to defend this team. Are this cold brother. Because I don't think when I got to be careful with the words they use our team I mean. I don't mean writing starring or anybody. Those people you can still love all these players. Yes donated coalesce to defend the hierarchy of the quote from either allegations of war. Crimes are anything has been quite stunning. You can only imagine now what it's going to be like. As Day as they moved to defend them themselves against the ban by UEFA. Yeah I just saw John. Bruin had a tweet. Which Kinda sums up perfectly? What it is that. We're sort of dancing. Around he puts it's a saintly. Giambra tweeted Manchester City. The latest proof of the sporting adage that if it looks too good to be true then it probably is look. I mean. That's the that's the other side to these conversations. They're kind of frustrating. Because you know what happened you know you? Just don't become one of the biggest powers in in European football in a few seasons without a lot of money and the question is how was that money got to the club and did it contravene. You waited flat. Fifpro's and again. I feel bad saying it but like John Bruin. He should just take that tweet and put an his pocket. Because like I mean if you if you replaced Manchester City with PS g like we could be having the exact same conversation right now. It'd be he could be sending that same tweet in a few months time for for them like I. Guess what I wonder is is. Has The quarterback attrition transport that were the case like this before at presuming dot the decay of of AC? Milan was taken to the Court of Arbitration for Sport for their European Bat. I would just defer to you on that. I don't know I have no idea. Well I mean they were stroke with de last year they were stroke that with a year long banned from the Europa League. Which I guess I mean I kind of absorbable but Yeah no it's It's going to be a few months of of Every the again another problem with the world we live in. Everyone's going to be a lawyer like there's lots there's lots. I won't be able to understand about about this process and and and I presume that cast is ruling will be binding so here we go. Yeah it begins. Oh man and you just know like look. This is something that needs to be handled by the board and and lawyers. But like no no microphones are gonNA be shoved and Kevin. Debroy knows face to talk about this. I don't know what do you want me to say? Just kick a ball like these guys. Don't understand like what just happened here. They're probably feeling the shockwaves of this. Certainly and wondering what this means for their futures. But like it's just funny because you know these guys are going to be asked to comment and what do you expect? Kevin Debris or Sergio Aguayo to talk about when we're ask them questions about financial fair play. Yeah I mean Kevin. Lebron's looks really annoyed when he's interviewed anyway as the best of times so like when you're when when he better get ready to have a whole load of that legal jargon thrown at them yeah. I'm sure that's what he wants to do. Now Oh let me just study up so I can make sure to answer all these questions that I'm going to be asked about F F P. That's what he wants this. This is crazy man. I from seeing that tweet getting that message. That was Just not obviously not something. We expected to To see today and I'm sure boy like we're talking about it from our perspective Manchester City Fan. Oh this is. I'm sorry I don't know what to say to you. Yeah and you know what like I met so many genuine not tim? Floyd hot conspiracy theory Manchester United or Manchester City fans who don't believe the entirety of Of European football is against them and who are genuine supporters from who remembered a penalty shootout is to get into the championship against Gillingham on And I feel for them more than anything because they've been on this amazing right. David enjoyed the good times the last few years. There's no question on. Why wouldn't they from just a purely sporting standpoint but You know there's these things. There's always some kind of reckoning or usually but It's it's never usually administrators in sports. Who Step Up to do it. And you don't yeah unbelievable man. We will obviously continue to monitor this and talk about this and and have experts on The show with us who can like really shed light on what it means. And what happens next Because like where this goes from here I mean I can only assume that what we learned today is the way it's going to be but who knows man like honestly who the hell knows how appeals will go and if the timeframe on any of this will shift fascinating. Oh my God fascinating. That's about it for me. Got Anything left. I don't really. I'm kind of a by the way as Liverpool fine hit doing again. Another twitter thing that's just crept into my life of qualifying every comment by telling people. The team that I support is if people don't know who listening to this podcast book. I don't take any huge amount of joy in this. Don't think I think it's it's too full and I think that Football wasn't is at a tipping point and that the rules should be enforced but Cheese I don't I if you're a Manchester City I can understand why Why this doesn't feel good at all. I'm defied and I take no joint. Well there you go enjoy the game this afternoon. Enjoy the games this weekend. We should say also Monday Chelsea versus Manchester United Again like all these teams outside of the top four united like these games all that much more interesting for everyone involved. Everyone's feeling that little bit larger glimmer of hope that there's now an avenue for them into the Champions League when they may not necessarily have felt that way before and since we spoke last on the podcast Andrew. A player that we've long load wondered how they'd stay how he'd stayed and ex Hopkins. Asia is on his way to the Chelsea so on what I would have to say considering like how good he is and his age like on a great deal for Channel Superb do in this inflated football it's They've got him for nothing. I really honestly Brilliant what like half are not half but like considerably less than they paid. Pulitzer the Pulitzer was what seventy and Zaire was forty three? I mean bargain. We Love Christian. But Oh my God you can only imagine what. Go Rhino will be going for. Boy Oh this was. I don't WanNa even say fun. This was interesting. This was an experience we all have. Were all living together now. We're in this This world where financial fair play suddenly means. Something I up is is down black white. I no longer know what things around me mean anymore. I'm I'm being birthed for the first time. This is all very new and different. Jj Andrews Andrew's Placenta of innocence is being wiped from his is. There's an image. What a metaphor. That's beautiful. Hey have a good weekend man to you. I say the phone Bossia thicker listening to caught. Off-side soccer podcast.

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James Returns to Madrid

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James Returns to Madrid

"It means the latest edition of E._S._P._N.. A._F._C. Down Thomas John My shirt Robson and Stevie Nikko. We welcome once again to the show. Gab Markazi is with us. We start talk with Real Madrid trouble brewing in the Spanish capital. This was the front page of ice on Sunday Toronto red alert after that thrashing they received by let's go Madrid in a friendly and Comey's Rodriguez Rock. Let's see that was certainly the talk before that Game Real Madrid of said no he's staying with us any trained with him today. The first time he's training with Real Madrid over two years of courses at buying during that period how can a son Chagrin with trade fans be going into start the season whether it just seems to be chaos continuous Kale's you're absolutely right. There is chaos. I played very well and they've looked Y off. The pace disorganized then and you've got a manager. That's made it clear that he doesn't want to of the place growth bow hammers Rodriguez a now the chairman or the president is saying we might have to keep those so he's undermine in the coach to a certain degree. This isn't GonNa win will then think for the Dan. I think sedan is in a real problem at the moment is in a route state because he wants to get rid of those players. He doesn't want Morandi so we spend it on his time worrying about that rather than actually coaching the team when you've been a coaching and Stevie will clarify this once you've got players that you don't want club and they're the talk of the of the press all the time and you've been asked questions with you concentrate more on that then you start to do on the players that you really want may affect the dressing room they affect your mental what you're trying to do mentally with the rest of the players they affect what you're doing on the training field and that's what's Real Madrid at the moment yesterday when we talked about Liverpool's preseason form then one of course in their matches you don't worry because as a profession when it comes to something that matters you go out the extra gear it clicks into place so all we reading too much in to Real Madrid's preseason. We know that that there's a difference between Liverpool and Real Madrid the definitely Liverpool as the Group of Liverpool have sure last year and in half done for two seasons what they're all vote what the capable and we'll the standards out when you can expect Real Madrid Honda over the same time hub in shambles and because of going to Shane some players we think that that's GonNa Tony Change and then they step on the field and it's not a shambles again so you but you have no reason to be confident. The reason I'm confident is because of what Liverpool down over the last eighteen months on the field the reason Real Madrid cannot have confident atoll has because they look for one show anti another LIPOIC is still see what they're trying to do still the same shape. It's the same manager try and get the same so of a style out the players. When I worked Real Madrid? I'm not sure what they're trying to think both defensively and when they've got the bullets being no pattern of play. There's been no sort of identity to the way they're trying to play defensively Buono of the the to send the house. They're trying to play outside when will run in between them and it's time on the player on the ball. Everything about Real Madrid at the moment is a shambles. How does the Dan fix it well? He's got to get in the training for that's the first thing he's got to do. And what would he stuff and say right. We gotta get back to the basics. This is what we're going to do. We could just got to get the place fixed. They don't fit enough at the moment and he's got to make sure they disciplined with their organization. Sumi Times in those first two games we send the half the fullbacks Marcello high up the field really good possession the right back whoever it's been with it's being cover how or the Zoeller they've been in our position. The whole Midfield Platz Casimiro is gonNA come back but Tony Cross all the seekonk. You can't get around the field. This season is preseason but I've seen too many sides in preseason. When you've been that bad you not suddenly going to turn it on? Come first there the season this is so bad from Real Madrid they might scrape the victory but there for me so bad. They're gonNA have a poor stuff to the as well the Dan most most coaches at this stage of the year the only thing that they worry about fixing what's going on on the field but now he's gone from being such a great position going to apparently okay. I'll come back this this this and this and he's Bordeaux yes absolutely to know it's almost like he's hanging on. The Perez is telling what's GONNA happen instead said of him telling him what he needs an older to succeed so he's gone from the you talk about a police of strength to know we're. We're asking questions how long this guy's GonNa lost a Gava. The boys ivory acting. I think they are overacting a little bit. I mean look I we all said it was major surgery needed this summer and then there's a bunch of things around Madrid need to address and some of them. They haven't addressed yet but I think we're also conflating. Some other factors obviously a lot lot because of the seven goals conceded to Athletico Madrid but also the Hamas and bail situations are frankly very different. I don't think that they're a part of this way. Some people suggest Hamas was told very clearly that he wouldn't be coming back to Madrid. He accepted that he accepted that when when he extended his contract remember when he was still at Byron they look to sell them to to Napoli into athletics Madrid and all that changed here series with ASENSIO's injury. They feel that they could be a body short. Bail is a whole other kettle of fish because this is a situation where they they told bail what the situation was ended an answered it pretty honestly honestly. He said he's GonNa play. He's here. He's not in my plans. Hopefully he can go. We can find a place room so I don't quite know to what degree that has to do with the more serious issues which is the fact that in terms of holding midfield old things may improve when Casimiro return but he's no spring chicken either. He's got his flaws. I think Marcello the criticism of ourselves the same criticism that's been there throughout his career but now of course he's older as well. You got to see how this Benz in my Yovich which stuff works out hazard doesn't fill. You've got a whole bunch of other factors in there too and those are the ones that's down needs to work on on the training pitch got this. This actually has nothing to do with with Hamas or bill as to what's going on the field because none of there's none of us think did they should be plan or a good enough to play but the fight says that the team is sure bod and what makes it was for sedan as that you've got Peres no dictator him what's happening with the lakes bill and with Alexa Hamas has gotten enough of the field all it does is it doubles up the pressure on the Dan and she'll not only go on fix. What's on the field now? He's got a problem with a guy upstairs. Well I mean these are this is what happens when you're around Madrid manager so Tina Peres makes decisions not you things and that's the reality for Sedan. It's the reality French for Marino for Benitez. Everybody who's managed to club in in that interim. That's just the fact of life now he obviously made. I think two colossal blunders when he gave Gareth Bale that enormous pay increase and and when he increased Hamas Rodriguez contract when he was at buying he did it because he didn't WanNa risk losing him on a free and and he thought Hamas was going to flourish by and that never happened those are two big mistakes that the club made that were not down to to to whoever was managing the team at the time the Dan Painting from those mistakes the Gabby mentioned Marino Ancelotti is Dan of course is second time around you get a feeling shortly there would have been promises made when Peres address arrest him about coming back about sewing out the squad about bringing new players which hasn't happened before Peres surely must have conceded a little bit than he has to other managers. This time rounds announced. Come back but it's the boy says. Peres's now giving him Hamas and bail but he hasn't given them they were already there. I mean the compensation close the Dan hang fashion the said yes I will take the job we'll take it if you can get rid of bell. Get rid of Hamas bring thing in polk but then yes I'm with you okay and I think by most accounts he was promised a versatile defender and he got that in in nature mealy towel he was promised in other center forward and he got that in Y'all the general if it was if it was his first choisir not Benza sticking around fine. He was promised hazard he got him. The holiday situation has come up because ASENSIO's injured so they figure that they're a body short and that's why for the time being there hanging onto their hanging onto armies right. It's got nothing to do with bail or is it Dan not wanting him or whatever else if it was always the assumption in Hamas wouldn't be I'm sure staring down new up in jail and when we've desperate to get rid of a player and we said to the player. There's no chance for you to in the team. You're not going to stay team. Then he went for a couple of medicals this plan to actually with the middle failed the minute. We have them back into the the scored may now know that we don't like them. They're going around the other the plaza moaning and groaning. It's a difficult situation when you've got you've already told you don't want is a major problem. I tell you you you can laugh but you haven't been in that position. Gap Your agenda starting starting on a regular basis and you told them that they can get and then they they don't go and you haven't back in your school. I was simply laughing at the thought of Gareth Bale speaking to his teammates in Spanish. Let's take a look at the league title odds to win the League. This is pretty mad thanksgiving through a fourteen to one and bosses favorites of looking to to retain retain that title that's unbelievable we saw Athletico Madrid brilliantly they were right. I think they've got some good nucleus. Yes they've lost breeze Mun. They've lost this. That's been Gordon as being their main player but they've got a very good side. At the moment <hes> Joe Felix he's going to come in and he's GonNa plan that right hand side and coming behind the front to unfortunately radical injured against remedied an informer ATAS showed in that I twenty five minutes alongside cost that's going to be a freight a great from parent as ruler Midfield Plas- coca and so if you're doing the altered you have them second favorite's behind bars absolutely one hundred percent we. We have no idea what we're going to get Real Madrid tomorrow next week the week after so. How can you have the mistaken favorite ahead of a team team who have shown us what the capable of and a team who even when the not playing well are going to be hard to be you can't say that but Real Madrid but we're going again off the back of this preseason win a law weight and there's been talk capacity of Simione Damiani struggling to develop attacking players on this? This is a little different had athletico Madrid squeaked a to know victory over Real Madrid than we would be a little bit calmer this this could have been ten and this. This isn't a fluke we can we can sit here and see ho by Real Madrid were because the worldwide you don't want you can only beat was put in front of you and then we'll always them play only can you beat them but you can actually annihilate. Was this take more seriously than other teams. When you look at that same they were playing with such a great? You could see where every place job was in the sudden. We're talking about jail Felix. I wondered easy going to be a semi soccer player because he's somebody likes the plan. The number ten row is good on the bull what he did the defensive side of the game. He's understanding of what is role in the side was brilliant when he came in Phil behind the two front as soon as they lost to sprint back out to the right wing position Lamar what he's job was to do was to gun close down being played forward and folks inside so sow could get he's man. It was brilliant coaching and they had a team shape and the team pattern when somebody does that you know they're going to be a good side Gab. Don't upset rubber again. We will say I don't buy that logic so because row Madrid got trumped by logical in preseason it means they brown Madrid or in trouble Athletico are going to to finish well ahead of them in the league then using that logic then Liverpool getting getting destroyed by Napoli 3-nil will definitely in Liverpool are the European champions means that Napoli are going to go and beat you vent distance Liverpool or far better than you vent. This and Napoli will become champions that you would clearly season me we clearly shutting you coupled with a couple of Taylor on the told you why you can trust Liverpool even though liver the by preseason and you can't trust Real Madrid so watch it cabin this is little covered up saying all talking about Napoli here live report practice just reminding you can give today with all the latest transfer news over on the website plus. You can check out videos on YouTube. Be sure to subscribe geico presents aches another voicemail from your roommate Shafran. Heya Piper in the basement completely flooded anyway. I call for someone to fix it but in the meantime I was thinking we could finally have that indoor pool forty we will always wanted. I got him coolest. Things already. Go and could you pick up some chips on your home later. The GEICO Insurance Agency could help keep your personal property protected like if you'll roommate isn't the brightest pool float in the flooded basement visit GEICO DOT COM to see how easy it is to switch and save on Renter's insurance prince. We've mentioned that way Liverpool's Paul preseason Fulham already Steve's has not to worrier four inches no victories for the Champions League winners. Take a look at that rule goose not too bad. It's obviously the got sitting the Community Shield Norwich is the opening game at Anfield Saints Away also a home Burnley's. It's pretty nice pretty good. Stop Liverpool however there is some discontent amongst fans and killing be summed up. Hey we had a couple of tweets coming in from extra time <hes> why does think not strengthening the squad is a good idea to compete with sits. You need to at least approach then level of debt. If you're not moving forward you'll moving backwards. The contrary arguments that I is who cares about squad death when you have four bags for beano is choice to sense about your cater auks with their first full seasons we saw last season if anyone on the front free fire. It's not really a cause for concern <hes> which one of those tweets signing adding with steaming well the last one the won't be any of the front three. I have to see the iphone myself being a little blase about the preseason comment right because over the last twenty I've been thinking about it. I am a little more worried than didn't make the saint comment earlier in the show. Well I actually I I actually thought that come kickoff Dwayne game of the season I thought sal I would play and actually for Alison would play right but having listened to to an interview the clock dead he's sin. He is not playing anybody who's not ready and not for me means neither of them not not just for me no and money but those other two are going to play as well so that's forty you starting eleven not plan but that's not good but we're looking because Norwich so even as you team coming up full of their away from home there are Anfield are going to be set in and it's about getting that Fox Gore. What about the point that it's time to strengthen when you're on you said that's why haven't the has to be setting things? You don't just go and get anybody anybody you have to go and get somebody who's better than what you have those two positions in my in my opinion and one is sent a bike. How do you have Andy Martino and do you have any of the Gomez and if you can't find them? I'm for the amount of money then. You can't go insane them. As far as a fall was concerned number one even if you find somebody who's GonNa Compete with the front three. You've convinced them to come to the club so really that means that has to be a young often common player what used to Putin coming plaza. We're happy to be the thing that maybe there's not one good in. What about left-back Robertson's number one who plays leftback gets injured milner there but surely he's company the best option leftback anymore? It would be great if you could have to please as good as each other for every possession. Let's just not that's just not possible but I think more important the more important one for Liverpool as is up front right right you need somebody else and I won't mention devote. We all right son in new contracts. They excited about that. Meanwhile for Manchester United it's being acquired some for them as well only really two players coming in we know obviously a James Common Young Sir. They spend money on him. It's getting Crystal Palace. Hurry McGuire heavily linked to remove all traffic didn't train today for less than which sparked speculation James Madison than Steph's friend note took to twitter society. They had some some bathroom issues and see didn't play so read into that. You will what mcguire you like him. You're a big fan of a big fan of his ability to play with the ball from the back. I think he defended without being a great defender but I think it'd be good edition for Manchester United. I still think he's the best and get this right centre-half with the ball in the premier league not the best centre-half the best center with the ball which he mistakenly I will say either but but he comes out with the Bull I think he's good when he gets into those areas is not just some of the parties out from the back. He comes out at the right. Time is good in the in both penalty boxes are still thinking get caught square in One v one situations and people go past in but I think a good sign if dimensions united he's a good sign of Vermont. Yes united he's. He's the taper character they need. The one problem are Wilma's. He's it doesn't really pay if somebody goes past them. It's over again but doc but over the rubble mention absolutely one hundred percent he makes Manchester United the bike better. Why are the others not going for him? Then why as you say to censor back well since we're talking about him and then they didn't want to pay the price I think that was what they said. They lost interest when the price went so high but he's a proven player at this level he's done well for Lester. He's got better and better he had problems as a youngster with one or two issues of the Phil. That's why he didn't progress is quite quickly Chitwood united but I I think he's an excellent good son. Let's break out the Gabon mentor showy and on a Harry McGuire gather way. which number would you give him going by counts? I'm I'm going to go with the four here. This is a situation where Lester have spent a lot of money in the last couple years and I think the obviously WanNa stay competitive and but unequally to do that you gotta balance the books and Maguire's the right age for them to cash in and I think if the number is going to be in the eighty million pound range lester going to have to to get go even maybe maybe even a little less maybe something closer to what united appear to be willing to spend just a moment when the Oh Cav Omega formulae translate need speech checkout transitory it's updates and of course surrounds out the day and stories breaking the all to finish in the Toll Force it in Liverpool tournaments guaranteed according to the bookies then Spurs United Evens Chelsea and also meanwhile both eleven's at ten also I suppose you comparisons Chelsea Chelsea of course and you're not quite active in the transfer window before in survival of course around Madrid Pasta pappy look sets of it be done <hes>. This is how you think they're going to set up roll. Bono is <hes> sick favorite about right. I think right at the moment 'cause we don't know quite well. We're GONNA get off so we know there's still going to be full defensively but I think we'll wipe lies Birmingham pep as they can play a little bit Liverpool's from plays when you're looking at salary monarch they can play through center for position or they can play why okay mic diagonal runs in Yvonne space in the side with those Muktar and they not great pace. That's the way he wants to go out and he wasn't to be good counterattack inside and I think the fact these SA- bias in there I think he wants him to play instead of because Qatar and again sort of plays he wants to close the ball down and win it back and Plow high-tempo when they win the Bobak so that's a think he would go with. I'm not saying that's their best side according to me but I think that's what he would go with all in on certain occasions that gets the weaker opposition would still get in probably before so bias against the bigger opposition. He wants plays a more athletic. Does that seem finish top for. Is it good enough to finish thoughtful. I think going forward it could be it. It looks exciting for me. pepys of a gamble right is kind of a skew your uplift for me. I think it may be a straight and lose the bowl then he's GonNa give you something else. The warriors what's going on behind that I mean defensively they really the the their prey awful and I'm not a huge channel aches shock in the middle saw that going forward. I think we'll school goals. A Warrior Defense I was looking at the center is probably not gonNA play because he's in dispute dispute with s then you look Mustapha. Would you play him either though soon no callum chambers he's been sent out on loan here. There in everywhere holdings not fully fit yet so it's problem. It's shock petits yet socrates. I'm sure he's good enough is enough. We get sends off against Rao Madrid when they were coast in the game couple of silly challenges from him. It's not a good back for huge conceal more from Robo tomorrow by the way you lost stay with us in the Frank. <hes> be sure to join him. We'll be reflecting on those. Howdy cut my chairs? Ramzan Munich and spurs join us on extra chiming check out on a youtube channel. The voice discussed favorite movies got to say in a penalty with his hands and those should I just thought the follow up dresses up in a uniform last night I mean the sorest us goes around the road guzzles with that ain't GonNa Soroush. Do you hate Moscow's discussing Jen Height mascots and Jeff even more so what's your problem in Moscow just pathetic children runoffs is for the kids. Is it a lot when that that rice the beginning of the season the mascot race that's good when they overheard conflict at one minute. You don't let them Games doing that. Rice that's frumpy Robert. He's CONFI welcome into extra-time. Thank you as always Feo tweets the first one to rob and his hatred of Neymar Asher. Why does he hate name? Are What do I hate name. I don't hate him like he's what he brings the WH- on his good day on I'll give you a good night. He played for Brazil against England like the true professional we did found space with a boy looked like a good leader and then you get the World Cup where it's all about him doing tricks on the ball when they have no meaning falling over rolling only Nova no end product when I see him like that I think no other fencing. You're managing a team whose default strategy is part the bus if you have any plan in history wow as your number one. Attacker who would it be. Who is that one player to break down fairly dawn? Oh man she plans thinking of low load. Wow juncture now. Somebody who's good in the air because if he wants the part the bus they don't buy like you could say would be a great time letter if you would be the one in the whole history <hes> I'm trying don't think of a brilliant Hendra who's the head of the bullies pundit in history the best header the ball. That's why John Charles. I think probably the best editor Charles for sure wasn't expecting unto because if you WANNA pop the bus Branca's still get crosses and if you'll better than the play your plan against you'll still schoolgirl gap messy. You're not messing elementary. I'll just having well. That could be a problem DAB. I'M NOT GONNA say John Charles as well so you've got the change in line. He doesn't go dixie. Dean by all accounts was an even better header of the ball and I guess you saw John Charles play right when when you were I'm a little boy just breaking through with West Ham yeah don't show white for Negoti events. This Milan events is it. Wasn't it off the in one thousand nine hundred fifties. I'm not even sure you were born that I'm just using them as an example anybody. That's good in the breakdown defenses that want to see the guy who you have. That's one way to break down defense. Lump the ball into the box. You might as well Andy Carroll. If you're the other way and I go with Stevie is if you have a guy who's got one on one skills. You'll win you free kicks and penalties and magic so I would much rather see my dona messy. Try to try to go and breakdown a park bus defense then people lumping balls Dan Carol so I'll go one of those guys annoys me when Stephen the panel like Oh my God out of arrowed what is a beautiful obey available for just twenty five million. Why is nobody going for him? has anyone thoughts about the fact that he may not want to leave New Stadium Champions League finalists playing for part players are being treated like items and shop and he refused the new contract so he loves it that much it doesn't want to stay wasn't that's what so he wanted to go on pointless when he didn't sign the contract yeah within gap I duNNo. I think this was another sort of one year extension so if he doesn't extend it's going to be there's GonNa be a free transfer right. I think it was a similar situation with Danny rose slightly different in some ways but he's got he is two years left and I think he was left for number steak and he was he was left out of of some of the recent friendly's with the idea being that he could go and pitch himself to other clubs and so on now. I think he's going to be reintegrated back into the team because the offers didn't come spurs running tight ship. I don't think it's I don't think it's a mystery you know <hes> careful with how they spend their money and and if you WANNA play there that's what you need to put up with conversely players like all the viral generic soon and maybe he rose Kyle Walker before him. They're we're happy to sit there and not extend their contract until they're happy and see if they're going to move get it sometimes to stay. That's don't movies. Movies won't movies god-like Besides the Karate Kate Daniel Son. Ah ooh my favorite films the breakfast club anyone of the rocky series swingers with Jon favreau going a little more old school. I like the third man I think thinks Stewart told me he went to see that one right before going off to watch John Charles play <hes> lamb sixty five gap joan's house it was actually working out the cinema because of course during in the summer they never get your Fav- one in the hotel last night it was in Washington integrates rice into a college football team still remember the titans remember the signs. That's what it was true story. Do you have a favorite movie actually stuey yes. You'd like this the the little girl in the movie that coach's son daughter obviously yeah little blonde girl. That's that's the girl who then married one of the Klitschkos and she's an actress and her name is Hayden. Panel tear thinks I looked up today. Exactly it's a good film as well Gab boom. It's all right. I heard yeah the guy that it sad though that that the star linebacker goes in and irredeemably hurts his back and whatever but he did win gold medal the Paralympics. Did you know that A._D._D.. 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Who deserves the Ballon d'Or?

ESPN FC

41:20 min | 2 years ago

Who deserves the Ballon d'Or?

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Basically means it's a quiet week after the nationally. Fourteen pundits, including all of these gentlemen, tonight show asked to cast their votes you asked to name your top five in the balance through on. There was a a point system attached to that. And it led to offers ever by to the point on come on. None of us know, who it is Shankar do the view. Skew go ten to what right shocked. Yes. No. This is not nothing to do. But we are going to show to you. There's no red carpet for shack. There's no. Any any issue and going to accounting and at number ten. No. That's all right. All right in the rest of it yet. So the votes. Yeah. Yeah. Chelsea in a number nine, that's Chelsea bias on the show. Right. Okay. Now depict by surprise name. I get to count containment number one. The name. Our funds will be on Twitter to win the bellum. What? What what sell in at seven any better than anybody cut in the actually hit saw five? You had a great. The reason we're about greeted in a number six. Okay. That where he should be. Yep. Yeah. About right now. No, no. The big the heavy hitters the left. I'm going to guess MVP. It five right? Right. Defenders never get any love his Veran, isn't it? Yeah. Veron in a number five. Yup. I thought his mom misty mount. Remember four. Could it be one of the big to know helium combat pay in remember four this ball, teen, people guess Atlantis? Messi and Ronaldo number three is. Yes, I think it's messy. No, not yet. Macy's three. I mean that. That's all right. Don't dare look a mortgage. Number one, KOMO on. We show Shawn. Remember to us we go drum roll drum roll number two. This is this is the only moment who's going to. Which one did you touch a moderate at number ten well kinda guess who's number one? Doesn't leave you many options shadow now though in at number one so see seventies. The widow of the first ever ESPN FC though. This is Angie how the points shook out and go to Kentucky, and he didn't has a rabbit anti chills. Only one. That was the one point. So we're now the winning by five points moderate show over messy by two but those three comfortably ahead of the rest of the field. So they have let's get some reaction Rafael start with you happy with the results. How close did they mirror the way you voted? Fairly closely. I I like the fact that we as a panel managed to overlook Pap, some of the story lines that I think some of the journalists voting football and dole we more infatuated with thing. They're looking for names to reward for what their teams have done. And I think we. ESPN and realize that even if Christina messy didn't have individually amazing years, it didn't necessarily do something for the teams that made a big difference. They're still in terms of talent among the best players in the world. So I'm very pleased about that gab. What do you reckon these results going to be similar to the ones we see in Paris? I don't know. I hope so because I mean, I think wherever you put your top three out of this top three I think is pretty viable on. And I echo raft. Said about messy and Renaldo. I think if you don't put them in your top three. Know, you're one of those sort of people who says oh for the story line. But you know, what I mess Rinaldo both scored around fifty goals this season. They went to the World Cup with deeply flawed teams and both still manage to to produce some incredible moments of Michigan's Nigeria think of cristianos hat-trick, obviously against Spain. I don't know what more we want these people to do. I think we've been spoiled with sort of the last ten years, and so people go off on weird flights of fancy, oh, we thought well, how about Veran how about neymar who was out for four months how about him bopping? And it's all nonsense. These two belong in the top three. I think Chucky you did not messy in three to. I guess I'm one of those people go off in flight to France us as sits at poll over now, though. Knickers ultimately is a team game. And yes, he's individual awards, but it kinda shows contradiction in trying to make individual awards for what does the team game? And I think especially would career teams that are hugely successfully. I would Cup. Those players are the ones who get rewarded in this regard. I mean as much as a vote for the story line and his God puts it flight to fancy. You could talk about Messiaen on his own hero IX for Barcelona. But when you threw in an amazing goal against Nigeria as the underpinning of why he should be top three. I'm not sure that that fully poisonings got waiting does count. Yes. Craik people are confused. I mean, that's you know, I'll be on us. I couldn't give stuff who runs the ball and door or hosing the top for the top five. But for the purpose of this program you fill out. All right. Very quickly. Just a day after we discussed. We don't care about it Email through Lou when you see the numbers from Renaldo Macy over a decade and go back to the last year. Renauld was wrong side they fail to you know, all the injuries you still chilling out. The goal schooled in Real Madrid's quest to get that jump ease. League was incredible. I mean, it's all Dante opinions, of course, as I mean, you can't control the narrative of a perforated ration- or a pure cordial per team international level, but you can control what you do over the course of a year, and those two have done over the course of a decade is just absolutely hate. You. Yes. Aldo top had messed it to one hundred one okay? Mantra because this season win or loss wind around Madrid was struggling in Champions League games. He was the one play that kept on come into the full with renowned but Luca mantra, which was the best midfield player in the Champions League Lawson, and he was the best midfield player at the World Cup. And that's why chose Luke watch right up there. And that's why he's Johnson willing to bet on door think a lot of that year for storylines is that no one else has wanted in so Lois almost lifting thousand seven people. Almost one town. Where's the ten the tiff to see these two guys they ceremony and one of them's going to potentially going to get. And I think that's what people are doing. But I think that would be unfair in my opinion to these guys are still doing. In my opinion. Rinaldo message to best business class still probably will be for some time. But why in that case, why are we having this balance dole? We know who's going to be told everybody else, just, you know, don't worry about it about at all physical Craig on this. I I hear the idea of individual awards because I still believe that team awards is what this game is a boat. Yep. All that being said, you have to make you have to make a choice as a result. I I feel that team performance or team accomplishments. We've heavily even in an individual award. Go down the other end of the table shirker gab shark. That's fine. And I think you make a compelling argument for Madras Monge in my top three as well. It bugs me a little bit is when people are like, well, let's give it to Veran, you know, or or we see people giving vote. To name our or or Imbaba pay for what I mean and Bobby wonder World Cup. Okay. Frame show degrees, man. So did so did so did Louise that was a team performance from France? So why single out in Bobby? And I really hope that those reports coming out of Spain France are are incorrect that it's not Imbaba Veran in moderation some sort of order the top three because in my opinion. Two of those three are absolutely ludicrous to have up there. So why not around then gob why why verandas is such a ludicrous choice? I would suggest that Veran is a ludicrous choice because first and foremost, he's a he's a defender on a team, which I think if you if you take out Veran if you put another guy in there, given the way France paid in this World Cup, given the talent that they had given the way the games unfolded. I don't think he was particularly decisive. I think if natural had played all those games throughout the Champions League. I'm bear in mind ground Madrid were nearly knocked out of the Champions League. I don't think it would have been that much of a difference to go and then put Veron's contribution factor in Veron's injuries, as well, which which always happened, did you go and compare this with Chris journal and Lionel Messi, by the way messy won the title at an absolute Kanter with Barcelona last year. Let's not forget that either. Arguably one of the one of the top two leagues in the world. So put those things together. I don't see. You can compare it. I'm not saying defender could never win it. But a defender has to go and really dominate and have one of those once in a lifetime seasons, which was really nice to defend befriended really dominate on. Here's the dangerous grown who try to it's easy to to see onto quantify home Messier and Renaldo dominate given their position giving the measure is purely and goals. And you spoke about that earlier. It's far more difficult for a defendant. It's a whole lot easier to see well if this such and such a defendant played instead of Veron, then you know, who say who who's to say that the result wasn't wouldn't be any different. I'm not just defendants in that regard. Anybody how you know if you aren't able to quantified in ghouls anybody on the page, you can make an argument. Well, if somebody has complained that exact same position who should see the results have been any different. And that's that's the trouble again. It's generally that's why it's generally attacking players who go and win these awards. But then this. This. Inflow defender. Well, of course, these awards, it's chilly, but could give you an example of the defender who you could see winning it maybe not obviously not this season. But in a different season is for example, a team like let you go Madrid. When you're gonna go gene was on. His putt was in his palm. He pops up. It's one with some key goals any Athletico Madrid spend the whole game defending and he's the leader of some defense against another team. That shoots fifty times on goal and easy emotional leader. But ref Veran wasn't even the emotional leader of France. You're not even giving him points for that either. So I don't I don't see the logic and elevating this guy just because he happens to play around Madrid or put differently if Rao Madrid won the league last year in Barcelona at won the Champions League, these same people would have voted for t t. Because look he won the World Cup, and he won the champions e-. I think it's as simple as that. So that's why I look mortgages. And then I mean and that same. And that same feeling. That's why look. Well, I mean, look, I thought this this whole thing's nonsense. Vote for Raffi overrun, but why should RAFI over on not being the list and look Ahmad jazz because it comes down to the fact that people are only seeing what midfielders stroke frontmen, right because this season this too. So is the football. You have to be good defensively. You have to be good in attack tech is old glory. Defense is king. About FRANZ winning the World Cup because they defended. Well, all around the field the to summit up to something Magnusson at the World Cup. He almost won the World Cup of because if he's disciplined and the white flight that position, but he won't get a looking because people are looking at the front you gave them a vote. He's the best. I can look at Real Madrid. And frit Francis performances. And Petco numerous things that you didn't see June the game where RAFI overruns pace and possession got sailed georamas or whoever he's playing with trouble. Because that's the of defending has quality as he pace. I'm that's where he won from a defendant and his key. That's his strength note. We say and he went in the door because he's not the best positive of the bowl or he's not the best processional defendant. Breeze pace gets in trouble. Putting people in this attention what people in this small kind of these. And that's why you see the same people being. Sounds like you might want to redo your ballot. Right. No. But I just don't understand why he's coming. Some can be on it and some come fair enough Yvo Veran first place. I did too up on his fourteen the name them. I don't know who the home was that will remain a mystery. The odds to win the real thing that parents. Well, look as favourite and look Veran is second favourite at coding to the oddsmakers Rinaldo down at eight to one in fifth place a messy yet twenty two one to lifted December the food the dight. Dello sport in Italy, going big with the Abraham vich Bank to AC Milan story, a lot of English media outlets handsome. They said suggested that some some deal is already being done that let's bring gab in on this the English media outlets suggesting a six month loan deal. That's already been signed is that accurate gab. Well, it's funny because a lot of these English media outlets site Italian sources like Zeta like countryman, Kartal dot com. And if you go to the original story, they're saying this is what he Brahima vicious camp is offering what we do know is that his agent Rhode isla- spoke to to me, then, but you know, he's got two players about the intruder who are meat on players. So officially was talking to them about that. We have a rough idea of how it would work. It would be a six month deal, obviously from the LA galaxy. We have an idea of wages that have been put out there. He'd be willing to take a temporary pay-cut for those six months. Enjoy living in Milan, it wife loves it. A lot of papers have gone, very big. Because they think that this is what it we're human which ones. But as we take the show the deal isn't done yet. And there's also take a lot of people in and around Milan. We're kind of wondering wait does this really make sense for the club would impact? Is it going to have given that you know, they really have to center forwards and Gonzala Gwen. Gonzala guarini. And then Patrick who throw it in? Is this really what beat a need as they tried to hunt a top four spot, which which they do need quite desperately. Could you see it? Stewarton? Hebrew him. Iguana he on a ship up tone. You could sit in sums if they were gonna go along, and they bring him if he was going to be the foil and hit BoJ down and be the man and he would run over them. Get mentioned could throw their who's a run somebody wants to running behind. Athletic, but I wouldn't say Greg technician count see having seen him play for galaxy. Where he schooled goes. And let the line quite well, he's letting that little bit athleticism. He's lost that little bit of pace. He's lost the ability to sprint away from people. He doesn't have to work quite hauled in this. I count see it working million. Can you Craig at the age of thirty seven Stewart said just coming up with twenty two goals season. We'll scoring in the Premier League only two years ago. I could see him going to team, and that's really that was dominating. And potentially played some some part of. God pointed out this is a team is hoping to end the top four. It's very. Abuse. Whether they'll be alone with I've got enough quality. But they're going to fight for it. And they're going to have to fight and it's going to happen. That's the intelligence goal with a good goals golden eagle, Wayne. So I don't see bringing in. What would be fair old luxury play because it big name would be a good move Aparicio's Milan. And also for the player has a very physical league. These days put FOSS pace, and these engines is different from playing over here and major league. So and the one thing I look at when I look at Milan, I'm thinking, the one thing that you lack people to really run it could throw him as a strong run a dynamic place. Susa who plays on the right hand side wants the cutting. He's a great technician, but they know they count counterattack at pice then that sort of side. So if they were going to go and buy somebody, I have somebody at the club. I would say it would have to be someone that's going to offer them something different pice in behind. I think he'd be rich can still do it in European Campbell. I think I think he's he's he's shopping from EMI show him nice. Immediately puts injured at Manchester United, and I think he goes in the issue with these Milanez. I don't see it working with iguana rain food for quite some time. Even before his injury. Abraham bitch needed players around him to cover the grown where he dominates space and you needed players going in behind. I'm as Cavani did for a PHD iguana and his not down player. And so it doesn't make a whole lot of sense in terms of the the personnel. They have and Tim's of personality though, I think it's a madman on have been missing somebody who can dominate adjustment in that manner are somebody who went things ongoing greed can take a team on the Scholla's would consider. So let him dominate. That's a that's another question. But he's good to have. That is good to have that personality on the field. And I think Abraham which is still exactly that would be some of these Deb more on Abraham vegetable land and the possibilities within on these Seri app. Also podcast. Latest addition is just drawn with Gabbard Anita and Paulo you can find on ESPN FC dot com. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent hailstorm here to describe the event a football, bro. I was just hanging on the roof. When this gnarly storm starts dropping baseball sized hail. The shingles got beat up a few windows. Broken was savage. Did you do anything to help, bro? I was in survival mode. Your football can't help you in a hailstorm. But the gyco insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Call gyco to see how a forcible homeowners insurance can be. Tying a bow on the on the nation's league, what were your impressions looking back over the last? Couple of months isn't being a good thing. The nation's Lee. I sat and the like some big improvement on the international friendlies. We saw some couple of good leagues in particular one with a Dutch Gemini and FRANZ England Cratia and Spain. I thankfully, the big teams at one the real big countries Ulta qualification too much, but for the small nations all the nations of struggled in recent years. It's not only given them more competitive games. But it's given those who have success in this competition enough when you talk to a major championship unless the hostile than just international friendlies as it revitalized national team football sitting at a European. Well, I'll be in the Belgium, Switzerland Iceland group and every game is being very competitive. It was a great loss game to Switzerland comeback to win five in front of in full house. That crab we're going mad. It's I think it's been wonderful defense of taking it on the meteoroid taken on as well. And the guns would be an excellent that's been a massive improvement of what was saying before you could understand the likes of France and Croatia maybe not being as invested in the nation's Zegers as other countries give them what the commissioned in the World Cup. But all that being said what you've seen from everybody from the top European nations. Don't don't minnows just as importantly is meaningful competition that managers I'm pleased TC TC pharmacy Risley than. Jimmy went to get relegated. The don't you. Also, see the fans from especially smaller countries. How how intense they will following their teams and how involved they will hinge the results, I think it's been an outstanding tournament for number of country. Yep. Rafeh what is being your reaction to it is it is it taking you told by surprise. It's the price be how how good it's been. I think the foam it was quite foam into was quite complex enough that people would not take too much as much as to have thing that big difference for me is that the games have been real games. If this had been a normal post World Cup, six months, or so or three months, we would've seen big friendly's. Well off the sixty minutes twenty substitutions and the game completely falls apart and leaves us without so nothing to read into it. But because those games so competitive, they meant something right until the end there were Patine between teams of equal standing of similar capacity. They're really good. And there was an audit stake. Now, just like Cratia and FRANZ maybe because of what we achieved that the couple of also that investment. But. Yeah. It's still it's it's of course, made it a bit more embarrassing being relegated for the first time. As germany. We never thought we would see the day would switch to many and relegation cab. I think it's fair to say that whether there were plenty of judges Bank in September. The folders told him and kicked off all those questions being silenced. Yeah. I think in many ways, you can't argue with the fact that we had exciting games. The stadiums are full TV audiences were high from that perspective. It's been a success. I think one side effect, and I don't know if this is good or bad. But for national team coaches is you've had sort of instant verdicts for better for worse. You think of her a guy like you'll live who, you know, after the World Cup could be like, well, you know, we'll sort it out. We'll still keep the spine intact. Put some kids around it. Now, you've got to go deal with relegation which require more drastic action than he had anticipated that wouldn't have happened if we just had silly friendly's. And then a long qualifying sequence where we're Germany would have paid against a bunch of muppet teams and the same worksheet reverse. You look at Holland where Ronald kumons sort of building for the future. And there's still a lot of doubters. Now, he's got buying because for better worse. You know, they ended up qualifying from from the group they're going to the finals, then gone to the finals, you they would have had the excitement of these performances against France, and Germany and real games. So I think in some ways it's accelerated the judgement, and it's gotten to the point where you know, before national team coaches really hit alibis until every two years. And now they got to start producing a little bit quicker. Be interesting to see what happens in the final tournament in June. Meanwhile, domestic football is back news. Place for Syria and relent CO in Milan. One someday fifty five AM eastern is yours Tonton. Zeke gaps latest onto you on ESPN FC don't call and he was in Brussels for the UN fifth fresh conference yesterday some. A little bit of eyebrow. Raising us coming out of it could us the president. And that let's bring gab in on that for president gab and you'll presence claiming they will not now be European Superleague league. Believe him. Well, the important thing is that it wasn't just him claiming it is the guy next to him with him, which is under the head of the president of your vendors and the head of the European clubs association, and they signed a letter of intent to to extend the memorandum of understanding which is the agreement that governs the relationship between the clubs and UEFA basically guarantees that. There is no breakaway Super League because they have an actual contract that they're going to extend it through twenty twenty four. So we know that it's not going to happen for at least another what five six years after twenty twenty four. I think a lot of things are fair game and twenty twenty four is important because that's also when the current sort of fica international calendar agreement is set until then you can't really mess around too much with dates because the international breaks are fixed and a lot of other. Major competitions after twenty twenty four you can redraw whatever you want you can make it. So that people play league matches nine AM on a Tuesday. If you like. So I think it's pieces is broken out between them they get on very, well, they talked about a bunch of other things like having the possibly already this season like having a third UEFA competition, but the key is that they're working together. And then there will be no breakaway European Super League at least until twenty twenty four six years and counting bats good stuff. Gap, Oli bits that don't make the show your question. John to the and stuff who's the best defender in the will best thanksgiving foods on extra time every day. You know, about blink motion activated security cameras, amazing technology for detecting anyone sneaking around your home or trying doors, and of course, monitoring holiday package deliveries. Blink is inviting ESPN listeners to score massive savings during its black Friday, cyber Monday event, go to blinkprotect dot com slash radio and sign up for an alert when the sales starts. That's blinkprotect dot com slash radio or hit Amazon dot com and search blink security link is an Amazon company. Star studied affair on. Tomorrow's addition VSBN NFC, go Stewart and Shankar banks TV and said anyone else beginning with ration. Yes. So you stand for. Thomas. One thing you won't be joking about tomorrow guys is is the balance door thing. We're we don't with that to the next week. But it's the most what we have proved is that if you're a defendant you can't win. And that's what got. It's ridiculous. Verano? Just silly, right? But it is the question you on awards is silly. We should we get off the most, isn't it. So is that the end of the questions now I want to do. We're going to have it all the way to December third and then once out of waters made then we're gonna get questioned about it. When does it vote and finishing for? Yeah. Yes. That's not feel year is still ongoing. Keep us ever going to be in recent in the knee. Right. I I'm striking from. No, how can you have never talk about it? Because goalkeepers always overlook otherwise. I thought you a splendid up at the boy without the red copy without the supermodels without the meal. Not going to what I'm good up. That's the best that could win the war. That's the Paris ceremony will have nothing on him for that. Tomorrow. That let's dive right into it. Just straight away on FC extra. Chime the four of us in security. We have rampant gab on board as well. Big busy weekend of domestic games coming up return of domestic football game. You most looking forward to this weekend. Stewart's dot we got. Well, that's the big. I'm let's see. Oh, oh. Atlanta against the big one Atlanta against the rebels. Those guys remember they you could to that game. I don't know who told me who's playing so invested and this Bush Chelsea big one in the primarily expose Chelsea you got the year-old same. He got the Boca Bocaue river second link limited or at Lenny Bonsor. Find out. I won't be what you're not real robot inter breath. Let's he'll be good game. At yet. I saw this weekend. I mistook just getting. A good game. I'm really looking forward to it whenever it happens Gad. But what what what game he's top of your list? For me. It has to be leave it and bulk just for for all the reasons that important the story lines behind it the spectacle, I'll throw out another one from the Premier League, which I think should be fascinating. Fulham the debut of airy up against Southampton, Mark user, Southampton. Some people have that as an early relegation Darby and could also be Darden for Mark us to keep his job. Oh, yeah. Can get around here. Yeah. Book it is much. Don't get right. Yeah. Your new contacts. There must be really good. Really good contact run Yary book wrath. I'm going to wage. Get a wage Fulham's have hundred no. Quite tokyo. Liz possibly am. I going out and Linda, no nets. That's fair. I mean, look I live in north London. I think he comedy look beyond Spurs Chelsea at the weekend of a huge game. And like everyone else looking to us for what is an unbelievable game. I don't think there is a big game this weekend. We get here too. For free nefarious channels. We get into okay, except gentleness. Cable nefarious. No. You're not looking right to liberty limited. I know it's a huge game. I didn't find call me an old fashioned Senate. But that's a problem. It's part of what game. I'm monies to get into my house via different means. No. Condoning not kinds of things a possible to. Yes. Yes, right. I'm nice looking Volks into your that you can find every single golf tournament being played in the world, even like the over sixty-five playing Phil Mickelson's backyard, but you can't find reverse and Boca audible, well because I have the over sixty fives and Mickelson's out John. My subscription. Yep. Legally legally. Yes. Yeah. He must eat some elite water into getting. Let's federal in this game. We get gap. How does the atmosphere Bocaue river rate with European games? And if it says if the crew of interested in the second leg what what are you predictions for the second leg to to to the first lake? It's actually a revered and bulk, of course, because they're playing at the moment. The I like was was Boker Yvette. I was struck by the fact because so often when we've seen a lot of these big classes super classical there's so much intensity. But so much fear of losing the game kind of grinds to to a halt. But instead this one this one had had everything, right? We had dramatic goals. We had chances. We had we had great saves as well. It's two two on paper. You assume are favored at this stage. Obviously got you out of those going to be back a bunch of guys who were suspended for the first leg as well. I'm not going to be back, but equally, you know, you you get a sense that this is one of those games or anything can happen and adding to the drama, of course, there's there's no way fans mine just imagining if Boca somehow witness at the at the moment. The only people they are going to be the Boca players backroom staff. Maybe a couple of officials. You kind of imagine them, you know, trying to get back to level trying to get back home being akin to that movie warriors from from nearly seventy so I just love everything about this, everybody talks. Atmospheres, not as done in South America convene credible. Everybody's. So a lot of people talk about the new creamy league. I think some of the big European games. He was forced to go to the signs zero from London, and it was seven or eight years ago young credible. Both those teams were flying time. And I know it's a Darby, but the atmosphere Dortmund the other week. So you've got to go from the bible, particularly in the second half when it came out fly. I thought that was an incredible atmosphere. Well, let's go from places like that to life outside the top six in the premier leaks to I want to address this question who's the best Premier League plant outside the sixty two long say a player that is key to West Ham surviving and in the last year. These are the next westbound on ounce of h yes, he can be a problem child. That's on his when he's planning. He's very best has done that for West Ham on numerous occasions over the last year or so he's a real clinic, buddy. I'm just going to say off the top of my head. I'm going to say Richarson. He's had a great year young. He's talented. He came with a big price tag. But so far on this goal for Brazil undefended head, and he's producing the goods for Microsoft ova able to interest a saying which direction wrath goes for this best primarily play outside the top six. Sneezy one full Puppa. Oh. I'm clicking on roughs timelines. Why don't you? I want to see the abuse. Let's. I'm just stating. A fact I mean to to answer the spirit of the question. Yes. I think it's hard to look past Richardson. I've been very critical of the price tag adverts and fans will enjoy me saying this. But he's been he's very very good. And James medicine say put away for him as well. Shackled at noon. Yeah. Yeah. A question. The question. I have no idea about to. Yeah. No. I got back to next week. Okay. Let's see what GATT asked this. I got. Well. Pug by I'll give you I'll give you three one for a one per position, Harry Maguire, Lester, Abdulai Takura at Wofford, and maybe the guy who is the single most important player to his team in the primarily Wilfried Zaha. Without whom I think crystal pilots would be leaked to I thought Waffen might get a mentioned somewhere along the line. Yeah. Yeah. We use the best defender in the world as of right now as of right now that the typical everyone's been doing but Ryan times, but the play the I still think is a magnificent defending might lost a little bit of pice athleticism, and he's much better on the bulletin people. Give him credit for killing on kid under still still ripe old age. I tell you he still doesn't and French court for whatever reason the put young he's been excellent. He's been good alongside stones. But once again, he wasn't too late. And there was some straighten selections ahead of him. Right. They said she -ation as a neighbor. But he's he's certainly had a good season up to know domestically club dabbled, you still have kaylene up their shoe it the best defender in the world. Good this. No. I. He's been very good to me. There's two guys who've been head and shoulders above everybody else for for some time. Now and one is report the other one is Kelly do Julia body. Yeah. He's good. Good debate for athlete. Yep. I. See cooler Bali buckle motel intimacy. Of course, I wouldn't wanted to play against out guy. He's I mean, he's big stroll. Jeff quick, he's aggressive. He's while agreed danger. Yeah. He's a good good. Good defend the he has wrath mats hummels for you. Not at the moment. I think he's still got these potential. I have a problem with this. Because I I would like to say set your HAMAs, but. I have moral problems with with name him the best defendant because of his antics. So I'm going to give it to. Doc. Now, he's he's he's been he has been he's looking Rolls Royce at the moment. Right. I mean, it really is check it. I know you around. Yeah. If I had a one pig right now with either be vandyke or Rafael concert poss-. Just give them the peace. Give me they are -bility to cover for others. If I had not I defend on my most important, we saved for Las rich once favorite thanksgiving food stunt, we used to it because you don't have euro. Giving. Took we have Christmas Turkey. Overcook is like down the middle Turkey Craig is a someone who's enjoy thanksgiving for a few days thoughts. Few isn't going to be food. This is going to be drink that he's gonna food favorite foods squish, red wine. And after the red wine when you got some of these hosts for thanksgiving this year because I'm one meal, and so somebody who was somebody said that taking the wife and strays. Yeah. Taken on the Dan Thomas does. Jagath cookie cutter. I mean, the really isn't much of a choice. No much Turkey turkeys, stuffing. Gemma pine. I know that comes. Do you know what Steve Nicol hasn't findings given? Go tell them spud bowl. I saw like nights surprised we'll let you all. We will see might see a gap would have that. Thanks, giving should Sonya of the show. Yes. 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Serie Awesome: Play resumes, but will Higuain?

"Uh-huh. Hello. And we're back. It's the Setia awesome podcast. And this time we've got the full trio bag. It is my cotija Palo Vandini. And I am of course, Meena resumed key said he is still gonna break it's not back until this weekend. But it was the super COPA last night between Venice and meal on I know anyone can talk about is all the potential transfers and the game that took place in Jeddah causing somewhat of a controversy. Of course, we have differing opinions on this. A we do. But before we get into that we should point out because I just discussion with my friend, Craig Burley on the show that battalion supercop an I still think it's a little weird. But this is not like the community shield. So it's all a Cup winner against the the league winner. Or it's always the same. But. Teams actually take this seriously lay if you speak to tell you managers, you know, when they count the trophies that they won they will count it. You know, it's a real game without like the community shield. I think partly because you know when they play during the season. And so on the community shield is always like a week before the start of the Premier League. And so people rest players whatever else. So this is not addition game. And I don't think I don't know if you guys agree. But I mean on a new didn't trillion and treat it that way. Yeah. I agree. I to me it's still it's still the same as it's not the same as the by tie. Even like, it's it's a. To win one game to win. But yeah, seriously. Yeah, I would agree with that. I think anything that involves a trophy that that you can count in your right Josie. Marina used to come to just one of the two if he's. That is that is true. Either way everyone did take it seriously from from a standpoint, I guess it was a game through some interesting stuff. I thought that you've meant the second game this season. We have another shot on target in the first half. Which shows you did come out and make like difficult for them. And also have shows you that you've been some playing great. And I think that Merryman Munzu kitchen being there is something that you feel. I think that is why that sort of story that broke briefly some suggestions he could be out for several months and then quickly showdown by himself saying close to this month. Tired of it attractions because without him tight. Those look a little bit more disjointed still that's something that they agree is no doubt thinking about and TV and said that I like that we need to in these Tiek's as be creating more chances. And there was a few contentious incidents is certainly felt like even late in the game man down their goal down. And. Looks to me like Emory China goes through the background in the area. Just get your take on that. I thought it was penalty. And and yet could have been a different outcome for that. But let me just summarize. So you went is one. Yes. And you've into run out with the goal throwing the hit the crossbar just before that then after that developed scored a second goal that was then ruled offside after he scored it me lands. It was and they had checked via Yang. Meanwhile, Meenhan will also upset because the decision was that controlling was ruled offside rather than lamb school the goal and then review it on a on much like they did with you enters. They chose to flag it off side and Tuesday will seem in the upset about specific directive, the the officials have been given at least they should if any measure of doubt, they should let play continue. Let the go hop or not and then review and e twice even. Actually, and and it was taken off correctly. And yes, we don't know because the play was stopped throw him out of school in that instance, and throw it. Well. Offside? It wasn't. It was. Tight one with the referee was sure right? And the pictures showed that he was correct. I agree with you. So I mean, I don't this. This thing about the you know, they you know, what the rules. I does it. It's because he's he sure about it would be different. If afterwards we look at it. We said like, oh, no, look, you know, he was miles on side. You know, then you say bad VR, bad linesmen. And you know, let's go and punish you. But this is the whole debate with the AM because now what what people want to see is everything being reviewed constantly. Whereas if a referee is certain of his decision the Nygard with you. Why Kahn he flag off side. But this turn to a huge thing. After with people saying, why are you meant is being grown to something that may not on here because human error is always always gonna have people about it. Always and forever. I think everything gets to me the penalty that was one that it was a penalty for me. And so therefore the fact that it didn't get reviewed is is is is a shame. I don't think that. And you can I think even better on the balanced by the one is good as it should be. I think it's definitely the interesting footballing storyline. Come out of this ties into I guess, what one of the biggest storylines in general command of this game is is that because only started and he started officially because he going woke up with the fever. We now know that he looks very much like he's on his way to Chelsea. And so, of course, this question gets raised was he actually was this a player taking decision to protect his his essential transfer. He did play in the end he came to the bench, and she wouldn't have done if he was. Compensation? It's happening. I mean. If you'd sat like, I don't think he would have flown all the way to Jeddah. To to that go and pretend he was unwell and then go onto the and then agree to go on the bench and come on. Right. Just doesn't make any sense to me. Like if you do that. Then you throw your on force of move Ebrahim, which style that's fine. Yeah. Then then you don't play at all. We'll talk. Oh, one thing. I'm gonna get from you though. Are you concerned? You're not gonna ask you a question before. By the fact, that you've not playing well, and all these nails and everything it's just the counter attack gets the decision making between what is supposed to be staunched the likes of Seattle now, obviously Palo devali, Douglas Costa. It just seemed like no one knew where to go. This is bizarre. Because when when the lineups were announced, I looked at even team knife. Oh, this is going to be tasty. You know, I'm I'm founded Zukas don't get me wrong. But I do one dollars cost to pay more. And I do want Benedek you to pay more. And I looked at that lineup. And I thought mitt Tweety and ten coy and and pianist in midfield, a wonderful attack full of pace and movement. This is going to be so exciting. And then they don't get a shot on target and more. I think what was really worrying for me is the fact that you needed someone to operate in tight spaces you needed quick exhilarated of the ball. This is why pianist Indiana needed to do more, and they didn't pianos redeemed himself, obviously without wonderful pasta led to the goal Andy ballot appear or good game. But it's not enough. If this team wanted to win. It seems like a weird thing to say when you look at statistically the kind of start that that you've had. But I am a pre she ate. I think ladies thought when he takes a lead is. All right. Let's defend the lead rather than let's add to it. In case. We screw up at the back because you know, he's unlikely to screw up at the back. But I do wonder if it's at some point. And the ladies spoken about it almost like every year on this time about how they need to step it up and dominate teams and create more chances. I wonder what what could you different and to some degree? And may not strike me down for me saying this does it have to do with their record signing as well. Maybe people around him are still even after six months is still adjusting or or whatever there'd be more conservative. So they can give casino. More more leeway, or whatever. I I don't know what it is. But it it seems seems extraordinarily does feel like. I mean, it feels like sunny this filth. Mic all all the real chances to score came through him. And and it's sort of felt like he would school sooner or later because it tends to when he's on the pitch, and he's that sort of mood, and, but it it does feel like there's still they sort of expectation of well Burnell, they'll fix it and dangerous. Yeah. And that is dangerous that you went to still have to rely on the Breen's caney at the back despite having such a beautiful in line. It worries me if I'm very honest, and I am disappointed by the lack of speed and the usually usually Allegra start slow. But by about November, December he's found himself, you know, playing somewhat more fluid football. But this is doesn't seem to be walking. Despite the fact that I think this is the best team. They have constructed over the years. Starting. Now, we talked all through the first season about what you just said that I did that Allegra takes world finance is best team. But to to be getting February playing your best football. You wanted to start now. Like, okay snowboard again. Like, I think it's it's still worth reminding ourselves as we sail this. I mean this team drew two games in the first half of the season one arrest them. So like, it is it is, you know, we're talking about picking holes in something. That's clearly we'll talk about all their disastrous shape because then no. But. Gene champions, the situation. Gab just said about a being a goal ahead in and and then the the wrist help without me don't have to look for like they were so in control, but then they want, and that's the thing that you worry about them for in the Champions League. Specifically in the league. You know, if it happens on week, it'll be okay. The nine points clear, not playing anybody who's canny and in the chairman, of course in Madrid. So the the backstory here, and I very SPN and made the argument I would being told it's not going to happen on the terms three. None of the terms that were laid out. Just some some background Igwe makes an enormous amount of money. It's about nine and a half million euros net of which you've had this weirdly are playing one million somehow managed to wangle a raise when he moved on loan to extraordinary. I don't know how much of that Chelsea are gonna pay whether it's all of it. Or whatever that we don't even really know. This is not official yet told us very very close Mita, and of course, paid eighteen million euros for the privilege of having him on loan for a season. Personally. I think that saving yourself that nine million you'd open the second half is real coup for meeting and the wages. They say both the wages, of course. Yeah. No more than that. Because his wages are half million eight and a half million net. So basically saving themselves. Well, over twenty million euros could be an issue for you Venice if he doesn't work out at Chelsea and Chelsea send him back. But. I'm in two minds about this right because all along the message is made in this brother and named nNcholas. Yes. Because you think you hide in the background, but I will out you. So this guy who's been yacking? Everybody's been talking to us everybody right about Gonzalo needs to go by Blige gonna go. He's been basically providing hourly updates on all the deals, right? And it's a tricky deal. Because of course, meet on had to agree. You went this, obviously, a degree Eli had to agree and Chelsea needed to get certain ducks in a row like finding somebody take out there whenever else, but look at this myself. All right. This is a guy who believe in the league scored roughly the same number of goals as Murata has this season. It's a guy who we know is temperamental and his beano his sort of mindset goes up and down more. So now, I think than it did certainly when he was around Madrid. Just look at his performance against you've ain't is when all of a sudden news like a bundle of nerves and. The argument is oh, well, he hasn't scored more because he gets no service and meat, and he gets service at meet on because there's one of into and blah, blah, blah, and Bhagat her whatever find to a point. I don't know. I think it I think if I'm meal, and I'm happy that he's gone. He went out of his way to make it clear. You don't wanna go there? And this is good for me, regardless of whether you hand the keys of the team to throne. Regardless of whether you know, you bring somebody else in and we'll talk about who they could bring in. But I don't want this guy who around Mr. negative. I I didn't know if like because the way you firmed there, I feel like it makes it sound like the meat on move was doing from the start in terms of wanting to be that. I don't agree with the impression the beginning that he was quite like into what he said. But then he changes his mind, right? With an e c going. It's tough. I think there's I think there's something with equal. I think we've touched on this before in the show where because he sits up and down play because he's someone who could he goes emotions taking places. Sometimes I think he it's it's really like essential to him on a personal level. Which is a bit of a tricky thing to like make time you, but I think he needs to feel wanted and the thing which which which which he was increasing the whole the whole deal with event is hinged on what in any stop that from happening. Was that Milan would not willing to make it ovation divine? They kept it as a right threat. And they told him a formality because they said, look, we wouldn't spend money on this loan for you. If we weren't going to do it. But if the national fat play reasons, we have to make it rights rather than Gatien, by the way. We should we say Neilan we mean loan Argo because he was in charge of this time. Yeah, I know people are fans out there and have offered to goes that Gazeta's not in. This is all Leo. But but said, so this is this is what why do such a baby in your team. This is what I don't understand right. Sure. But why are you wants maybe team? I mean from Chelsea's point of view you want him because undecided specifically thirty six thirty five games one season. No. But he's, you know, come on his way. Scoring strike. He elevates the pay in the final MVP. You've Venter's LA season. He was top scorer in the Neagh under mount it's your Saturday. He was great around Madrid. He wasn't combines EMA. And he didn't he wanted to be the man which is why he went to now forty but he's proved that when he is loved when he's comfortable. He's a great scorer. Maybe because I just naturally I kind of feel that. Yes, he can easily very technical. But these guys are like, I don't wanna be here anymore after six months. He wanted more money to go to this is the other thing right that deal happen because he demanded more money, you got a raise and any sitting there, and he's been told by all parties, the reason this deal to Chelsea can't happen is because your contract is too big because they don't wanna be on the hook for another two and a half years. And all we get the brother always so busy believe so miserable. Like, you know, what here's a way for you to stop being so miserable. Take a freaking pay cut. If it's so miserable. And and your so dying to be. I think at some level, we got a call call out some of these guys, and you know, I hope he's a success at Chelsea. But if I'm meet on I am I'm doing Jake for the fact that this guy's gone. He's ridiculous salary is gone. You know, he makes you I think he makes marginally more than the highest paid player in the primarily. Okay. This is not Michael about this is freaking Gonzalo Ige grain. Okay. We're all too too happy to to move on by the way, repeating. But can I just just on the point of Meena news ING him while I agree with you that he is an emotional pay. We he has surrendered to those emotions in big matches. He didn't school for two months. He must take responsibility for the fact that he's supposed to be a leader and not just a goal scorer. And he hasn't acted like that he looks frustrated and angry, but having said all of them, I think firstly got feels a personal failure on his behalf as to not getting the best out of to'sell. I do think that the who they are looking to replace him with these what is rumored to be from killing take about Schweik different proposals on Iguini. They are losing a man that at the time when did this deal with Dada Manute she and dick Wayne, many many that the better end of the stick of this. Wow. They've added a goal scorer. Yeah. They go top goal scorer, and they lost an aging centreback as it transpired. You know? About attitude for another guy with about who makes even more money. And then they paid eighteen million years year for the privilege of it. The Qatada thing I was while comes out of works out. But come on now. Let me tell you. You'll having grinding if you manage to get him on board and your team is consistent in the sense that you haven't knows Frank Lucas Lucas billion one of us who so everyone to different various injuries. I think he would have done good. I think that he would have been better. I do think he's been on lucky. I agree with you that he's emotional, but so is out vital mode Onta. And of course, they seem to like these emotional players. But at the end of the day, I still prefer to have him and hope to have a consistent team than having PM tick. I immediately he more than any other country in Europe. We have this idea that, you know, you're you're considered a youngster, you know, forever. You have thrown their he scored goals. Give him a shot. I would bring in somebody serviceable, I would not break the Bank compete on tech as looks like they've done because frankly, we really don't know if this guy's any good time recording. That's not that's like that's not a done daily. Maybe this very happy. Bunch y seems to be an alternative Chelsea there's talk to Chelsea betray, of course for those who who missed this. But dry was unknown at person dormant in the second half of last season. Scored a ton of goals went to Valencia on by the way, a bad Valencia side for whatever reason didn't work out thinking only started one the game came back to Chelsea Chelsea enough. Trying to find a home for him. There's talk of Monaco. Now, they're suggesting that maybe meat. I'm we'll take them on board for me, given we meet on. I still think that they can. But they have the tools to go and catch lots and finished four given their financial situation, which is horrendous give him because of what they inherited. Why not get much why canonization Andre sovereign law season. None of they didn't count. They wanted to strike that was going on now. We still think. Guarantees goals. And John does that I don't agree with it. I it was better for them to keep it Wayne who scored more goals Thani, Wayne this they can play together play them together. He's gone meaner. He's gone. What? What? He's better too key. Okay. But he's gone now. So the question becomes dick. But try. For what I think there will. Look, I I have my bet with you believe talked about loads and we'll see about. I am. I'm a believer in Pune take on a certain level. I think is movement in the books is is is something that sets apart from. From a lot of places scored one season reluctantly, but I don't think he won't be on the atoll atoll. Like, I think he's I think he's too similar to for star. And I agree with you that there's not really valid reason in my mind, not throwing good chance at this point. Meet you play one of them. Yeah. Alternate, but you I in controlling I happen to and this is why I cut him without thinking about single being on deal is that even though there's a lot of talk at the moment that it could be a quick resolution. I still have doubts about because the took fourteen years general one four him Millon. I'm the financial will not be able to just hanadova. So it's it's already going to be a conversation about coming. Do a loan deal with options to buy our nation's to buy and I can see this not happening. I think it'd be better appealing and for me on that doesn't happen. I think they'll be better both both policy bets that doesn't happen this January. I think it's the wrong move. Yeah. I think by I seems to me like a lower risk option for the second season. Look me line of of got a real pickle right now because they need to get in the Champions League. And I I understand making any move that you think will get you across the line for that. I don't think making another move the puts you in a mortgage future situation. Everybody with financial play stuff. But I'm trying to make this very brief would be situation be a lot better. If they got into the Champions League. Of course, it would it would help them reach their target, which which are challenging which is break even by twenty twenty twenty one that said if they don't get into the champions, they will have a shortfall in finances. But it's not going to be the end of the world. In other words, if you have to spend a ton of money now to go if you get into the Champions League, and then it's going to you know, it's going to net out. But I think they're better served being smart with their squad by showing that that there's a plan in place, they can go. They have a shot at signing. Something called a voluntary agreement next year, you know, you can go and you can negotiate. And if you show that there's a plan there if you're showing a few start thinking that oh, look, we're all your short. Terms, and you really going to pay fifty four million euros for Gonzalo. You Wayne with those wages when you know, there's not a team in the world that would do that than than you're gonna be trouble. But free transfers can we move onto his big imminent? Talked been nice if they went from wise, they came instead of going to secret thrown in Kenan front moisture can who's twelve years old? Imagine the future international for woods with the future. Send to Bank of Vitton in national team, then Roma's midfield, and we have a dumb pretty cool. But then if you've moisture Kengo, then they would need a striker. The money. But anyway, and then got his bat that events science struck this year. So. Oh, I'm quite pointed with this if I'm only I like it. I like it at the numbers. I still do I tell you. I still do should we tell people to numbers. Okay. So. The numbers as reported widely cross the media hundred forty grand a week. But that figure, of course, is the old saying that newspaper editors do they copy from Tien? Journalists wasn't a time droves. Who wrote it in the guardian originally that figure net? So it's going to be a gross to your which rule of thumb you can generally come close to doubling it in pounds. A week is going to be making north of two fifty to sixty grand a week, which I find is an enormous amount of money for Aaron Ramsey. I mean, it really ties up a huge amount of money. Good news is you don't have to pay transfer fee, potentially. Not. So good news is because you've listed on the stock exchange have to be somewhat transparent. And as we discovered when they signed Sean last year, they doubled his wages two hundred seventy thousand pounds a week. And they ended up paying sixty million euros in agent committee. Most of them going to nice manning, whereas FAS alleys that's about thirteen and a half million pounds. I'm not suggesting Aaron Ramsey's agent is going to get that. Or is agency apparently is gonna get nine but nine is the number. That's been out there. That's euros. So, but how does it Hon of money for a guy who, you know, good player time taking discipline doesn't move the needle has euro resale value because those wages who's gonna gonna buy them. Yeah. I think I think that the disappointment last point. I it kills me signing kills me. The most point is an important one because about the resale value, I think the flip of it. And the reason why I'm a little bit more than out of the fences that even if you total out those wages and the agents fee, if you buying exactly the same play and having to pay the transfer fee and the way that lower, but you still have to pay them wages. You know, something getting in the wages the rest of your time. You pay more. See? Oh, yes, Fisher. But the question is the up front transfer fee for play of his age of his experience. Yes. It would be significant. Trophies oldie trophies? Not only who've won trophies who who come on come on. Talking about seventy million pounds right over five years between wages and commission. If what Meena said is correct. Okay. Could you buy a forty million pound player and pay him six million pounds a year and get the same production out of it at age twenty eight I doubt you that? Maybe you could. But the other broader question just from footballing perspective is you this midfield? You have Mishaan we've walked into a long contract and can't get rid of merely piano. You don't want to get rid of on? This. You have to get rid of him to pay for this, John. That's whole other issue. You have Benton core who presumably you really don't want to get rid of plus a hosted guys on loan, plus your pal Sammy Qadeer plus buys Mitchell. He is pretty well. There are no one would disagree is is probably reached the end of his useful. Fantastic. You need. Yes. I need. This you need what you need six. Yes. Because I need civically Rams. No, no. I would have preferred an Italian. I would have loved to have someone like in my opinion, Unicord's annual that type of player, at least Italian grows with the team UN's, let's wages perhaps, you know, indulgent not because I do think much like what Romar seeing you know. It's best to buy a tiny believe in that. And there are many coming up even said he obey. But what I am going to say is that I do think can I this in the summer, and I did mention it that event is needed. And all the on the ball player a player who can hold possession. I did have an issue with then Emory. John was Borton. I didn't necessarily think that he was necessary unless deer had moved on. I prefer Darah to Emory China every day of the week. I think bent on cool can also do what I'm rich on those. But actually, he has more skills than his awesome. If less experience what I wanted was another play who can do something that pianist can do. So that we're not entirely reliant on this one guy in the middle to hold possession. Because I I would. Oh for another on the on. Gonna Ramsey absolutely. Not in such that those figures and certainly not considering his tactical indiscipline. I I mean, he does one in forward, and he leaves positions behind in gaps perhaps onto Allegra. He will learn to do that better. This is the only thing that worries me about him. He's not even started. Also, so. But for me I wanted to know on the bull midfielder, I would've chosen someone else. But now that us here, I do think that he will help you on edge, and at least hold a little bit more possession and make it useful possession for even. Doc about another guy on very big wages who plays them along. To be absolutely fascinated by the saga of mild economy class. What's going on? This is very interesting to me because. Why do you think because of? Because if I'm day, do you think that's why I'm positive by it? She's a fascinating. You know, what's interesting is that a lot of people to about into winning stuff. And I always said I haven't issue with the team that is led by spill AT, the has modern ecology and has angered on in it. Losers. Big fat lose. No his little characters. They are not people. Who are just like. All right. Let's keep quiet. What for the team? You know, they will people who love attention and economy is obviously on a large contract. Intel are apparently winning to offer him seven million season. One two his agent and his wife would like nine. You're. That but go ahead and schools moguls, and she would like nine to keep in line with how important he is with how much he does for inter with the fact that into continue to tell us and remind the add a big club again can spend money that can be somebody huge looking at the likes of Luca Madre JR. So if you all that team than you can spend on your top striker. And so considering how much Gwen is being paid considering debate on seven million why not have guys on a bit more than that? I see that point of view. Meanwhile in quite a bit of leverage here because he's got solar. Contractors running down is it. Release close which one hundred and ten million started off looking like a lot. And these days doesn't like a lump nemo people say that it's interesting. He's a one hundred million. You know, like, I don't I still think that is a lot. You know? I again, it is hundred million strikers have there been in history ratio. But but but his his the thing around eighteen ninety you'll spend a hundred and ten on income. Without is it's a bit like expensive houses. Right. The markets on either if the one person who can afford it. We'll do it like so like so that's why I think I was coming from. And it's it's true. But the flip of that is if you're into even at one hundred ten million euros. He goes can you replace those goals? Yeah. That's a two is about sort of the whole like monopoly versus monopoly new word. I learned which is when there's only one buyer. Whereas when there's only one. There aren't many center forwards out there. They really aren't right now. Any one of them? He's got the right age profile. So well part of me says, you know, I think we throw these big numbers out a little too easily. Right. Because you know, the new Kaku gas eighty million fine. But that's man, just United more money than God. He's go to Tana goals in the primarily, whatever else is the right age profile all that, you know, made sense to some degree. And it's not like he's terrible. But let's, you know, but if you actually look at very few center forwards have gone for that amount. And we're talking about nearly twice without on the young went for for example. Right. Put you right. He's the only guy where you can rock up. So like if I'm say Rao Madrid next season. You know, what I know exactly what he's gonna cost me. I need a centre forward this year Kareem out to pasture rather than get involved in some Pena havi buyer live. Window ski masks tablas ice leases, easy, wander some money, and I get into hundred ten million and I'm done. That's what you've been stick with Wayne fundamental, and you could you can debate the merits of that on now but big clubs who have the money. Sometimes let's get this done done in some like, yeah, he's a lot younger, of course. Hundred ten ninety and he scores in the big matches. He's with a chance, you know. He's he's now paying for the Argentine national team. Honestly, if I was looking for a striker why not get him? So basically, if you're if you're Chelsea what you do in the summer is used a hazard money to bring in to bring him out kata the and then you resign Hudson door and you've got an adore Hudson county and politic frontline Gwen. Goes back to you here by forcing you to sell mural in piano, bar Chaloner. They could just tell him back to nap. Because by then maybe Milica what keeps? Yeah. Playing lots you this weekend Sadie returns. I think we say that's the tie around. Yeah. Well, it has to be because all the seem probably should be only. No, we li- we lie. Of course, say. So this is a game that weekend show. I mean like Napoli, well if you listen to catalog Chiloe speaking off to they wanted to buy Taty the day. He would insist that the challenge is for. I think a lot of people will feel like maybe it is a little bit over. But he thinks it isn't. And and even even if. You know, either way, you know, you know, the point the season earning season where you still getting complacent. I'm doing these thirteen be big missions lots. You're fighting in the top four not fight for the lost spot in the eating season suddenly shaving to very tight Muncie. Yeah. It's it's a it's an interesting game. I know that you're excited about savage showing here. I think that they've improved. They've come on mobile is back in scoring Lewis to Bank to scoring Milinkevich savage back to be salvage the formations interesting. Having you know to full woods to sort of. You know, t's does if you like meanwhile, now putting seemed to be suffering a little bit you sold them in the coffee tiny and not really performing to that level. It is a copay Tanya. I'm but having said that hasn't schooled in two months and the goal machine. Anyway. No. But it's interesting that Angelo was having him on the left again in the Cup. I get it. But they. The the the it. It does seem like, you know, the beginning season we were all excited about playing through middle. And that's the new thing. And now it's a little bit. Like actually scoring seventy goals. You put him back in the middle. And it's it's I'm not saying they're in trouble because they're not like, I think that they're going to be just fine but changing their little bit. We were going to have a big debate about munch because I Coffey J before yesterday with a former director football clubs in Italy. And and here in England also happens to be very big Roma fan and. He was railing about about Monchy and spiel as a fan. I I don't get it is this guy any good. What is the big deal? And that's why we have all these printouts munching wheels. Yeah. I feel bad and feature generates these are murky signings many of which deals and just a few. Yeah. It's you know, it's funny. Like Tommy one good player. He's trying. Don't sweat like that's a good show. But I- Jones waited the first one jumps to mind for me is clearly like in my opinion, like industry to be good signing. And it's not like an exciting one for the future. It's just like decent value you go pla- color. Katie's done like chain cost much. I believe so. Yeah. Training lost to leave. I mean, but he's not, but he's not the future. Trying to I think, you know, you do have these other one I mean Ricard's door if the poor guy gets injured twenty two who knows of other again, woundr fantastic social media videos, cool at the undertaker. You know, we wanna see him kick on a little bit twenty two now. Apparently, he didn't systems on your low would be a wonderful jail. No question about it. Vini great deal. It's an interesting. It's an interesting Schick with the super complicated way in which. These days is true. Yes. In story. Of course, we've talked about this is the mystery. I don't get. Twenty four million pounds on that guy who I get your logic. But you know, I know he's got a lot of player for that money. But it's a lot of money too. I think that's probably a little bit of nostalgia for that. One. I know. Owns these VN kind of. Paul you that makes sense. But you know, they don't have an issue is Robin Olsen. He it's interesting that like you think about how much they bought it in frost. Obviously, you know, there's a need to keep some of that as well. But I the the big signings is I think they're awesome. There's some interesting signings, obviously, many this year who young con to the full judgments on just in that we've seen a little bit of this and promised, but I can't give you a real judgment on him yet. And that potentially is when you me nineteen years old. He's he's got a future. Well, yeah. True. Bullet dog he's to most expensive signings are stolen about twenty nine. You know, it's it's it's it's a little to me that that's how money by their argument. And we'll throw this out there hit us up social media. Give us reviews. He's that will but he sold. Well, I think Alison that is good feedbacks. No matter how he's been on is a tremendous deal any which way you look at it. Thirty four point two million. It says here Kevin strolling at twenty two point five million pounds for guy with news that is a tremendous sale as well. For enough money. With hindsight. Time people thought it was a tremendous deal rooted over thirty million. You know, again, hindsight a pretty good player. Maybe they could hung onto him. God some more out of them this for twenty million and other weird one. Where all of a sudden, you wonder maybe he's actually better than he thought. He was, you know, Emerson for eighteen million to Chelsea, a stroke, absolute genius. You put these things together. It's it's makes bag I think that people are gonna continue talking about. I still think he's learning. Obviously, I think he's been tremendous Roma. And I think that now he's sort of land that he he said the other day in an interview that he thinks investing in a tiny is the way to go, and it's a different culture to what he's used to. I think then he will continue only the I would definitely trust my team in his hands much like I trust mine in. Should we leave me with a million question, would you? Swap fishy for Monchy. Not. John John team. We just what that's all. We have time for next going how resumes, and we'll have more interesting debates on why you've end just Iraq is seem to be better than the rest. Just in carrying toy. And we'll tell you all the top.

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Gab and Juls: Is Defense Man City's Downfall?

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Gab and Juls: Is Defense Man City's Downfall?

"Hello and welcome to the GAB and Jules podcast Jewish international over it was fun it was it was good Jeff Carlisle in every saying last e even he could. We finish dirty dirty. Yeah ain't going to happen today. We have an absolutely packed show so much stuff to talk about champions coming back back Manchester City losing obviously we're going to start we'll have a bit of Barcelona because of your aunts who fatty Fetish and the big one in Germany life. He's getting by and mention how about that. We city so so they play. Norwich who I was going to list them but then I so many couldn't be bought bothered like what seven guys out right Amanda. Did you know that may not was still playing yeah. I thought he retired years ago. and beat him being always in many many respects be. Norwich team throwing caution to the wind as they say or really playing the way they've played all season long the way Daniel and had them playing in years past and people say award to exposed they create a lot some jitters at the back and they end up winning three two team who Kooky of course scores get todd cantwell again I didn't know who he was before this season before the under twenty one the man that guy's got he's got honus. Hornets Yeah Dodgy. Ah You know what I like. I like to his haircut. I liked the confidence in English football. People are so obsessed. Oh look he's wearing like a head bad ha. That's all make fun of them. Who Dodgy Barna. I've never I've never been to a country where people are more obsessed with making fun of other male footballers haircuts yeah. He's got the confidence to go and do that. Well done todd care well. You know I like it plays with a lot of confidence. He behaves confidence. He was very very good. Athanese when he's postmatch interview for young player is not always the case but he was so composed and so well since we're starting a new series of Gabon Jewels podcast cast heroes of the week. I think Todd Cantwell should be our our our Gavin Jewish hero the week now. We've praised Norwich no reason to speak about them again. Let's talk instead about Manchester Shitty. obviously defensive errors coming to the fore ultimate stones. There's no Emmerick LaPorte and of course fencing company is now at hand. Elect hate to say I told you so but there were several people said well wait a minute. You're losing Minson Company. You obviously can't replace company because he's been company but you can get another live body so that you can have four proper central defenders in case. LaPorte gets hurt some competition for the other guys LaPorte out forever now and stones that don't have any problem yet ah problem you're right. It is a weird one because of the money available and they didn't have to go and spend a hundred million on someone aw even if the Defense Delia enough to but poppy Zillow Bajour. Maybe maybe he's available. It's just just get someone in there and surely surely they could find someone to come in and not just the force center by choice but also providing so. You said it'd be tough competition for a million I mean I don't know I mean yeah. The field goal is the worst one clearly because of what he's doing then. Did you see after after he loses the ball. He played pussies like that like no. One is talking to me but people shouldn't talk to you in your own box. You should have checked behind your shoulder to see where the Norwich player where and you actually actually what you were GonNa do. Instead of blaming the others for not talking to you and say that someone was coming behind your back. I mean the second goal Walker dropping to took any offside lines the first time that's how many many and I think we'll co go away without one all we can in here in England because because for me as bad as the engine oil unless it can goal I mean walker mix of it and the bug. Four line is just all over the place. Incheon core is one thing like if Pepsi's the on the bench. He must go absolutely mental in his head. I I really struggled with this because it's not just I stones are not Mandy are Nisei great but they're different moments in the career stones is coming off a difficult season Ultra Mendis thirty one now he's contract as it expires at the end of next season. He's already talked about. Maybe going back playing a couple of years eight. What of these guys get suspended or injured late. Then what the venue wheel out Fernandina to your emergency centreback reserve eric are eighteen years old. I mean he played against Burton Albion Cobb Walker then you have to consolidate right back and it also can call Walker play centreback. I know he didn't a three but in a two who is that even a away there is a very cynical theory that somebody put to me because because I I was curious about this about them and about Liverpool why bushing could've used an upgrade at centre-back arguably united arguably city more they chose not to do it and and somebody made the point that if you buy a central defender and you end up spending sixty seventy million to change the narrative a little bit you all of a sudden you've spent one hundred thirty forty million and then people expect more from you and the reality is if you're Manchester City. You wanted to with ninety eight points. You want it with one hundred points you. You're not really going to do any better and it's not necessarily going to move the needle that much. Would it be possible to play GonNa Garner Fernandina in in the Rodrigue knowing the Rodri- role and move Roger into central the fence. I I'm just wondering because it's a long long time until January. Orne teleport comes back yeah right. I mean the port that they're saying what February John. Maybe I mean. That's a tough spot to being and what gets me is. It's five points. It's now pep. Guardiola came out afterwards and said Oh yeah you WANNA crowd. Liverpool champions Jenkins's Yano but you know dude. It's five points. I know they didn't actually play badly except for the defensive mistakes on a different day they might have they might have won this game but it's five points you. You have to go and you have to peddle that much harder and it's it's. September psychologically last season. They lost at Chelsea in December much to sixteen this season using September a Norwich lost against aside from you know promoted side in the last twenty five games twenty five defeat the last time the loss to Burnley in March two thousand fifteen which was prepacked so I think psychologically that defeat my hurt even more than one Chelsea last year in December even if you're flying at the time and because he's September smashed at five ninety five in that team loses in that way I shouldn't scream about and I wonder psychologically if that will hurt law if okay they might go this week in and get a win and then next next week and you do wonder what kind of like consequences that can have on them on because like you said how sarcastic he was after the game is not going to deal with. I guarantee you. He hasn't slept a torn on on Saturday night and he just won't they sue early in the season already five points and the other team is cruising us to live pool. It's just like it's the complete opposite. I'm pep did seem test after the game and he brought up something you know he's he he defends defend his players and and he says that you know he basically. I'm GONNA paraphrase him a little bit because it doesn't quite make sense. If you read it verbatim. Even the English media helpfully quotes him for Bannon but he said head you know said that basically if he has prestige it's down to the players here in England when the first season when it was fraud Guardiola Fraud Yola now he's really funny and you can do this at home listeners if you put Friday Ola in a Google search You're gonNA notice that I did this. A while back is really difficult to find any national newspaper or any pundit who's ever used a term audio la the people who have used it have been people on on Internet message boards and memes fans of other clubs so this idea that you know he came doing. Everybody called him a fraud. It's just not true. Obviously he had his critics obviously obviously they were disappointed the first season but he is slightly hamming it up a little bit here. He's he's a little bit rattled now and he's still early in the season Dab. That's me yeah now. It's quite y'all we don't want to panic. You're right. It's early in the season. Five points September is a ton. He's earned the right cross to give him the benefit of the doubt right that he knows what he's doing in Eh one with three points against spurs which they really should have had the three points then and it could have easily had a drought here snot no reason to panic right and I I just I don't understand why goes into such defensive move moods steak and so like are you. No you don't like it. Basically it's like you don't like me. You don't make me you know I I don't know and I know he gets so book down. It's always been bogged down by defeated species like the author that was we went to an extreme after the game and I just I just Roy for him. I have to say you know like you said he saw early. Let's given the benefit the but he he's not one for long spells as manager right we we both know that this season is already a long time for him in many respects and I think that would be a point where you know psychologically mentally he tied physically. It'd be time because he's so demanding. It's so intense and that's why I don't know it's. It's an interesting theory. I don't know I mean every indication I have from. I've had from people are around him. Say that it's different because there is a lot less pressure at Manchester City. I always go back to this. I mean you know what it's like on the continent on tonight right here in England people talk about Ooh. There's so much pressure but there really isn't right so pep. Guardiola wakes up in his house in the countryside. Wherever wherever the hell he leaves he goes to training meaning. There's nobody waiting for him outside. His House is no fans at training. He'll he has to talk to the media. What twice a week the you know even even when the results are bad like your people showing up when you go out to dinner and whatever N- and you know you don't have ultras coming to the training ground to quote unquote motivate the players I don't and obviously doesn't have I'm sure he's very attached to Manchester City but it's obviously not going to have the same kind of attachment for city that he did for Barcelona. Oh nine whatever and that was the whole stress that came with it so I don't know if I really if I buy that argument that th that he's cracking or it's so draining I just I simply think they made a major major screw-up in the summer not bringing in a viable force central centreback and maybe even in keeping ultimately there because I'm pretty sure I would have gone if he'd found tapered paying the same amount of money and that was a situation where they could've live where they could have freshened up. He values chemistry so much but you know his squad isn't very big and Leroy Saana of course injured as well just last one on stones. Do you think peppers given up on him. Why is improving Y Y. What's what's the deal that would you think is the problem. Why is he so bad when he was still missing in Saga Times. I don't know and I go back to wondering like was he that good or the just looked good because he looked it's a taller percent defender who can actually control ball pass it and send it where he wanted to go. You know I I. I wonder about that but you you only to see what happened. Last season you know Otamendi again less so he's a veteran he's been around the block the last season if you're stones and everything was set up for that right left partnership and company with his injuries and you see that down the stretch you know you're like the fourth option off the bench. It should make you think you know where AM I. What's is going on. You know what's what's happened here. Jewels huge game in the Bundesliga this weekend Leipzig who were top of the table hosting hosting Byron who better to discuss this with than the original Norse God John August Fjortoft Yon. You with us. I would do all right. Help me out here because life saying we're we're we're flying at the top of the table and I actually thought they could put one over on on on buying and then the worst thing that can happen to them. Byron score straight away and then it's Kinda upheld to get back into the game but in the end one probably a fair result. I think that's fair to say I think a Arab a license was they were very excited talking about this game because that was a chance for them to see how far they've come and sometimes I feel that they have a lot of criticism which is not fair because everybody everybody throw this thing at this is con- constructed club and they just take them from from nowhere and make them a big club but my view. Hugh if you have a look after the TV they have to Australians they have a couple of 'em guaranteeing their big names but a great team. There is a plan behind everything they do. They won't Click Meek players under twenty three. When I go on I think when I went into this game I thought this would be a test for and a few set it does of course scoring for for for buying that. Is that is a separate for them. They really had a penalty. The against thank God had the referee or the bar so that ah just made me Laos. Can we hear for the VR. Thank Vr here yet that worked what a great day for bars. I did work out of the room now and then it goes at a very good time they go they go to Tennessee. They forced by being secure on the spot and it looks when I came out second hall. That was at least a purse twenty. Five thirty minutes was light speech as a contender to fight with the two peak one store within them. I just want to ask you about life chic before before I passed the floyd more to or hand the floor to Jews. I'm trying to imagine how can they get better this season. What what can what can they change and Nagas mine obviously obviously can come up with some more creative tactical Voodoo and maybe Forsberg will start lasting ninety minutes in continue back moving moving back towards a level he was at two or three years ago. Maybe they'll get something from schick. Do you see how they can improve or or how close are Leipzig to to their to their ceiling. I mean that that's my one concern with whether it's going to be a three horse race. I think when you if you talk to me many times you know that I love the job what this laughing third. I think they could find a position into the environment where they kind of can use like doing in cycling. They could just use the win to go before and I think that's that's basic for ugly was gone and they took it and they thought they would make every single player. Some percentage better on. I can see that in the team has put a defensive wall. Sometimes we forgot forget that they don't concede lots of goals the goal keep raking this game. It just shows you that he could class. Is there with team van on on that of course pulse. Danny's player who works absolutely called type to be out there to win the league they the by asleep at the Dolphin to buy into slipping and I think I think if you look at gender football by that the the only solution oh the best most probably solution Gino Autho was was was a great thing for the season was the Champions League drove because I think have such an open an an an open group really a group that can easily win with yawns any Benfica that they can win and fish maybe Sam Beeton which would give so much momentum and confidence and so then the league matches and you know that kind of form where Nagas man who let's be honest with often Heim obey with with less quantity squad and the money he is now but did okay but he looked at times. I thought La season a bit of his death sometimes and it was it was a bit of a struggle nine can get a lot from a very good group group stage with with our bureaucracy in these same with the players and then suddenly a different dynamic. Look you know we're doing Vishwa Champions Day. We're doing violating the we can take on you know bigger teams bigger players etc and then suddenly eve momentum's gets going. That's what he's very very good and like you said very young and can improve very quickly individually and collectively. They can become a big threat. I think dominant buying Yana. Let's talk about Biron Kovac his own man in his own decisions Lucas Hernandez. I thought had a really rough game. I'm assuming he wouldn't have started if Alabama hadn't gotten injured during the during the warm up but he also made some big decisions in terms of Chino on the bench going with Thomas Learn Game in a game like this and also we didn't see Perissich at all were you. Were you surprised did he get it right well. We we have criticized by yeah. No I have criticized buying for five players and those buying cheap on us. Ed May just way too all the sauce you see it again but but I I kind of base by buying and that's not saying that they won't pick up center for the championship. They throw the they ought to be so that's but I'm not sure about the balancing the team because a casino well it's continuous when you put him in these a great player but how much better just by him guests to get there okay. We'll we'll take the pool offense. IAGO shouldn't geog will have the full all the time you put. Miller in this game was signed. Also I expect both Paris H I'm casino now to play against Red Star Belgrade if the champions but I think that was also a signal when he stopped taking on people come to the bench that you all have to fight for your for your place. I think that's good for them. I'm not sure about that balance in the team. I think that the college we look for that because I want one draw away. A life stage is normally forever theme quite good results and they deserve that point. I think that they started well in the first half but in buying that is always thought of Anita Crisis Win on you saw the biggest pay per build sites that that was from Colorado. I'm annoyed on furious. According to that is via so they need people to see if they gotta play that kind the pressure critical of Lucas Hernandez jewels. It's nothing personal friend test than a fringe player but on the other flank all right I get get it. You play provide so you can have kimmy midfield. Maybe they saw it. If we have commission and IAGO together we have you know we've got to passers. We can hold onto the ball better but I don't think this is a longer term solution and wondering as could the solution in in finding a spot for Katrina and the team Ba going four one four one more often than just putting kimmy back at right back so that we don't have to see poverty tried to get forward. Well you know coach when he stopped the deceased last season he thought it would a rotation that is to keep every the player happy and sometimes feel and I guess that is the big challenge to be a buyer. Coach or a coach for one of the biggest teams is to kind of get people enough games he felt obviously this time you can put kimmage into number six position. I think then then again in Germany they over overestimate the Cambridge. Cambridge is a great player but he's not lomb year. He felt feel blob. Yes hang jumping here. You said he's not Philipp blom yet. What that means. I know you think you can be on one day could be it'd be lamb. Nobody could say how people develop but when you see the job the press we think alarm is stood up again through Joshua Kimmage Kimchi. There is a great journalist and nationalist playing for buying but for me not the level that by going to be on they would we delete that that is the basic for their ambition but they have to be contended for the Champions League so how I hope can they put together a team. That's what be contender for the champions. League and I agree then go to pay right back for me. He's not number the six I can almost maybe it could but I don't like this. we have a new lamp kind of strategy from called. I I'm I'm not buying it. I agree it seems I pays up with Germany though so if love and covers bourgeois well yeah Germany who are doing so well. I'm just saying he can play multiple positions initiative but I mean correct me if I'm wrong but part of being a manager is getting your best players on the pitch in a way that makes sense within a coherent team. You have the luxury of the guy who's the best right back at the team and probably the best central midfielder but you've got more options in central midfield then you just write back so playmate right back so so here here's the deal when we buy we have to discuss them on level that they can win the Champions League. When people say we can't do that it goes around Madrid Barcelona much fifty. They got so much money whether the last Champions League find what's between Liverpool and Tottenham a no disrespect to the two teams but then on financially resource the biggest clubs so by could be this so then hops to look at the buying team on think. Is this the buying team who can win the Champions League. Yeah okay they end the season with buying a player or loaning player who's toast. Yeltsin cold in Barcelona. They wanted to get rid of Hamas Rodriguez who was not a good project reject them and then they buy a thirty year old Perez. He's a great player but it's the thirty year old player from incest but I just two last week. I think that is the pack of Munich. I I love this John Bringing the heat in holding by into account. Thank you so much John Jay's appreciate chatted. So what did you talk about Neymar for starred item but Julian understandably said no no no. Let let let's talk about the better it is a little tired but he's all excited about and sue Fatty Barcelona of course five two winners against Valencia Yeah I think there's nothing like going hyping a sixteen year old even further now Graham Hunter joins us on the line grand for those who don't know now and to Fatty scored his first league goal already but we can go this long ago but in the last game and he he's the third youngest goalscorer in the history of La Liga after nine and somebody else why can't recall and and then in this game against the first ten minutes he scores a goal he sets up Frankie Diong. He looks lively looks amazing. I am very very lows to hype up sixteen year olds at a club like Barcelona but Graham and he doesn't turn seventeen until Halloween incidentally yeah but Graham Lino Messy in the stands again Luis Suarez in the bench. Initially those guys can take time right and to factor take care of things. I think I think the first thing that says that you know in in our social media and I don't mean podcast hello to both of you. I think that words used an jetway and hype just like bonding tears this catch all word on. I two outside first of all because when I you know I was macy's scoring debut opportunity the things that stood out there. Nobody you know were saying this guy's. GonNa go and score six hundred goals break every record and four champions. League is what we were saying was. This is something special Louis Messy against opposite only news help to Colo- flick fast scoop to to order one and goals called off say did it again. You felt well. There's Chutzpah. There's technical. There's you know because it was very late in the game McCain that they had to win. That was only one one note now by saying that we've seen in his three appearances coming on against Baptists were again although we didn't score and partly because he's sixteen and if you compare him say two-way Rooney Rooney was completely difficult different physical specimen and has said subsquently recently. I wouldn't have been able to cope with a primarily get sixteen starring brilliant thrashed one goal against Doc Goodison had it not been from my boxing training well. I'm in fact he isn't exactly you know he's not sliver of a boy but he doesn't look or carrying himself. Did it sixteen so therefore already when he comes on time for those two games you highlighted his decision about what to do with the ball stood out not nothing that magical wow. I've just seen brilliant but this is a kid time when Lima the academy system applicable bustling was widely being derided not simply for the lack of those who've come to establish themselves in the team but there were things that you could point out that weren't being done in the way when there was a conveyor belt evolve as an MM prescription pill on champion and ESPN messy so stop for steam impressive choices both of you as mature viewers would have said after answers debut well loverde this much criticised coach looking for a sixteen year old leaving bigger players like the on the bench and then against awesome he comes. They're playing the most awful five minutes of football. Almost I can remember maybe since before like a sequel it was the worse than in Paris worsening role more stanfield becomes underscores the head to this day you you come again to the standouts you talked about this weekend against celente where Europe's really clever strike his movement onto a ball from dion who shouldn't have been able to see the movement that was really clever play by the Dutchman but finishes finishes in frantic then to leave derives spanning with a little trick and spin off his leslie finishes. The goal is right is what he crosses with a couple of minutes later to return earned a favor to do crushes the ball to the shops are really very clever. A maybe the thing that makes us say don't use the word hype unless people are saying these guys go into equalness equalness. This guy is GonNa win. Everything guaranteed. He's sixteen year career. That's when casing right now. It's not high say we still phenomenal. It's reality Israeli. That's so you're saying Joel phenomenal things he does. How if you can get excited. I'm excited about this. I can tell you of a sixteen year old doing that. When Kanye I was like I was really impressed by the after the game said we need to protect him. You know we need to make sure that you said is too much hype. What kind of what kind of boy it's a is there a tendency that he would be carried away. I mean this story of the whole family is his dad was a was a player backing in African Guinea-bissau. Two brothers apply hi. This is what's so it really key on the ground. Is that kind of kid or is there risk star he gets to becoming with until we'll speak with care because I didn't get to he's only done one. peace not was so after after the also soon draw and he said blowing me yeah. I didn't think I'd scored in the net and there was the bulk or such incredible I the way you can take clues. Is this summer. The was contract was running down and he had the option to do shotty semons and went to buy singer minding the option to do a number of was chosen to do and say. I'll probably probably get my game sooner going away from football club a number of players of his age of said well. My agent is bringing my year. They'll be big bucks right now. He chose not to chose to stay. He was told I think my body. You'll be promoted not immediately. Nobody knew macy's calf muscle was going to be a problem that Mbeli was gonNA crunch again and therefore it's accelerate promotion but you can say that something about the boy either him his entourage thought that staying bustle would would be the right thing to do to be around messy to learn from Suarez and because he trusted Volvo did not that seems to me to indicate reasonable feet on the ground and secondly every time he scored if you look at the reaction looking for his teammates his teammates affecting him there's a degree of which they think he's he's ready irrespective of the goals. Sean enough in training and one or two senior players album particular. We saw him in training from the first day. He did things that we didn't expect a sixteen sixteen year old should be able to do Victor Valdez. He was going to be his coach. WHO said we're looking at somebody. Who's advance beyond view. It's not just in technique but in maturity so so I I hope we're talking a guy who's equipped to deal with. What's coming his way and I think the Tightwad you both talk but what happens now. The really big thing is the cloud maybe untempted to put him all the time for interviews offer sponsorship and basically he's allowed to live his life on train in the right speed yeah Hopefully they know better. I want to move onto the game on what we learn because while I love the the aunts who Fatty Mon by the way we call him an sewer sewer fatty all right well. I love the answer moment i. Maybe it's stickler immediately Italian in me but I'm like you. You're tuned up at home within ten minutes. You're playing a cry and a car crash of club in Valencia where we're you know. Peter Lame once again helpfully the Chaim Marcelino gone sedation for for for his debut never actually managed a club before and you know Valencia just just aren't where they should be right now. You should be able to go and manage the lead and lead it through and instead. I thought defensively specially usually midfield. There were often overrun. I mean they they concede a goal before half time and then the elements get under jail because they'll goalkeeper tillerson. goes goes in spills one and then. Suarez comes on and it's game over but I might be too harsh initially because this midfield on the players but I thought Archer Bruce Wisconsin Diong defensively not where they should be yeah. I'm not sure I wholly by your deductions by Dubai your argument in except pending ending task not just in the league across all competitions. Cami can kill a game now. You said the Italian in you one of the things that messy said in his interview Gigan- got sport last week. Was We have to start coming games away from home. It's just an arguments and he was scoring more. We need to school and much more arse. There is a general concept of bus on on their already all over not in for the already deletes top scorers their score ten at home to away you you killick aim for means gave this is their concept but what was the minor hit the woodwork. I think and they had a couple of chances but it's a gift from silicon and it's a wilderness. You're repeating yourself. I I buy your argument that they have a pending task uh-huh. How'd you close a game and what I'm used right now. There isn't an an overriding atmosphere that that's what you do so the first way in which to get onto your criticism. It's Li- adjustment of their overall philosophy not just on Saturday night however inside unite the one thing that matches with what you're saying they had they had a relatively hi second-wave practice the midfield was asked to play really high office soon as Valencia figured that if they could either pass away of that along the ball to the mid Midge -Tario over the the second line of press then it largely be two to three on three with pacing good passing they would do the type of diamonds that you talked about but not just in the second day not just in scoring to come back onto close to terms but but looking as if they were the team that was better managing the match. I agree with that definitely a Netflix well. We are in the middle of though I think that may be you coming back to this discussion in two to four weeks. He's IT'S AN UTAH. They are not now trying trying to keep the ball. They are not trying to action position. They're trying to reintroduce the press. It looked a little bit Shakey for the last twenty minutes of the first time you're right Graham Leslie. Let's let's you happening against. Oldman because dot is to test by definition on. How will they play that game away from home against is to team that can pretty much do everything plane transition play quick onto the tight with Don Sancho and Rosen Hustle and none of that or keep the ball for a long span of living messy is gonNA continue as high as it is right. I think we've made an absolute. We thought it was an absolute until he started training over the weekend. immediately post game. He took Khufu training session. I think I think too soon. I don't think it's vital that he plays and I think the so worried about that. There's a little bit of What do you call it secretaries'. When there's a stitch stitch surgery stetch broke open and they want to protect him if he goes chosen very worried? I don't think you should travel. Don't think he should play not ready cheers. Graham thanks so much thanks man enough Barsha. How about some quick hits instead Liverpool Pound Newcastle United after going a goal down to win three one. Roberta furger menial comes on steals to show bidded magic benefit worth jewels. One of these guys get a slowdown Grech Russian Gab. I think they why would this does don't start with Chelsea next weekend on Sunday in the next big game in the Premier League maybe or they look so good that even the the Mainassara we can fight didn't seem to have any consequences and they were friends again and they were happy again. I have to say it looks good on right now and you know what I love about. This is how club came out afterwards and how started or we originally on the wing being with Saudi-omani Center forward. I'd have to sort of about fifteen twenty minutes. He's like no no I got this all wrong and he switched them and then obviously he got hurt and for me no came on and the rest is history but I love it when you have managers who come out and own their mistakes you know it's it's. I think it's really good took about Chelsea. Guy Chester wars five to tomorrow Mason and Kristen sentence. I'm Brian Plus. We've been lifted his cheek James to come. Why are they only only now tipping into the US economy. I really good question The stock answer is well because of the transfer ban and also because you know while they've turned out enormous quantities of players. Can you think of a former Chelsea Academy graduate who would get into the team right right now who would have contributed over these years. Maybe challenge if he hadn't gotten injured would have come in handy but they've won. All these titles are use level but there really aren't that many guys who've been through there. It's like Patrick. Bamford would have started to giggle call stuff you know and they've had some very close what I find absolutely incredible about. There's an open to write something about this later this week is that these seven guys that you mentioned except for. Anders Christensen who of course came over when he was sixteen all the other ones arrived at the club before they were ten years old. I mean nature versus nurture debate. I'm always at the end of the spectrum a lot of clubs who boast about Oh look good lama CEOS or whatever ever our academy yeah. It's a hell of a lot easier when you mean cherry pick the best sixteen year olds from other clubs or or even like I xe much respect is fantastic but you know like Frankie Diong for example came over when he was seventeen years old eighteen years old right. These guys have been there all along. That's pretty that is really really remarkable. `cable the amazing thing after the game awards in Ram saying you know here tomorrow announce dreaming of moments in permitting much where the three of them were Skoll aw there were ten because they've been playing together since like you said there were ten for some of them even earlier than that because the cup since he was six so imagine that they they were you playing for the under eleven's and you saw one day we can be a snapping version. You'll board boy and you're under forty one that and then you end up there and you do it and they're eleven. Gore's awards that Jessie at school this season. I've been by three incredible. Yeah I mean. I don't know this is going to last you know. I- producer sure Scott who's a Chelsea fan smile on his face right now. I don't know this is GonNa last. I mean we are talking about a team that you know this season. I think we'll do well to finish the top four but it is it is remarkable just from a production standpoint how how these guys have come there so long. I wonder if it might lead some teams to rethink Neymar places first game for price ascherman since last main gets resoundingly booed for ninety two minutes. There's banners up telling him to make make like a tree and leave. I'd never of course he scores a ridiculous overhead kick to secure the three points in injury-time juuls how long before it's forgive and forget or excellent musings column but an editor may we'll take the south. I'm just gonNa tell you here. It's not going to be love between them between him and the ultras us but it could be mutually beneficial sort of friends with benefits type situation. Yes yeah and is that what's going to happen. I think he's dead for the whole season so may as well make the most of for everyone involved the fans team the coach the club the Qatari on whoever it was a first step towards forgiven forgiven forget this long way to go the one incredible new chapter in ways already an incredible Saiga of him with the club up trying to keep the fantasy special tries kind and as soon as his name is mentioned even before he's in the stadium. He gets booed. Every touch he gets booed gets insulted his. Daddy's insulted it was just incredible and then fame to come up with a wonderful goal in the united second winners well. It's just that you could not make the she's a lab and he's just I think he's incredible. That's a first Shuzo reference to the show. I'm allowed you know swearing and it just I just think he was it was incredible really and I don't know where this is going to go on and they're going to achieve the season and there's there's these theories in Paris. It's not a very quick heat this along head him on this one just to finish that maybe it would actually be the best season vs PG career and I know he's not too hard but because because of everything that happened and because he has something to prove in many ways so let's see an is a kindred spirit there now in Maui copy. They opened on Wednesday. PSG's opponents are Real Madrid in the championship rests to three lead against seventy at the Bernabeu only for the open to to back it finished three two but gab was it that close news actually no it wasn't I thought Raw Madrid played really well and they could have scored even more. Corinne Benza my again doing his thing. Bill of course was suspended. Eden Hazard Hazard came on off the last half hour. Should if you get glimpses at the little man can do. I don't know row Madrid from you're still this giant holding pattern because of all the with all the money they expand the summer and the four new players do just started one game between them so I still don't know how to evaluate where they are. Second only go by the the performance to goals were against the run of play. You can say oh look twice to make a great save at the end to preserve the the three points yeah but based on performance. They were much much much further along so yeah. I I think you take the positives from this funnier. Though did you hear the story about Sergio Rama's join Sunday back they had the general assembly of the row. Madrid members and treasure almost not very popular with some people because of is obviously he's doing his. He was doing his reality last year which is a documentary about himself. I haven't I don't Leeann north. It's out on but it's out on Amazon prime. I'm on prime is really quite good value. they have a range of wonderful dodges kidding. Hey guys mom's on I am a Louis Garbutt competition should stop talking about not as good as ESPN plus anyway so he was taken to task for that is taking the whole thing at the end the season when he was we're. GonNa leave this. One dudes like yeah needs to spend less time on instagram and you know to have a Real Madrid club captain appear in public wearing a pink cat. He looks like a Swedish tourist except is a Swedish woman tourist an Indian feminist lozenges felt like wow I'd ever associated the pink hats arsenault throw a two-goal lead at Wofford and collapse in the second half conceding and I thought this was a misprint twenty-three shots and two goals and forty thirty five minutes. How do you concede twenty three shots and forty five. That's a shot every thirty second. How is that even possible. now in part this was due to excessive. Steve Insistence on playing out from the back which of course one of the goals I think a lot of it had to do them just kinda folding like a house of cards cajoles. We should have been celebrating. Mesa does first game back instead. We were subjected to this second half horror show and by the way one of imagine it's GonNa play the Audio Niamey and what he says post-match because nothing says makes any sense not not to me I I I just disconnect and it was like when you speak pointing out before he's like that when he speaks in Spanish language told and Oceania right won't wonderful second cyst on the second Obama things that both for tonight's but you're right about the second half he's talking about the same mistakes again from office nor I mean this like they don't learn from anything the lack of leadership this ship the lack of intensity wind doozy maker like wide to know the lack of Plan B of what something is not working just change even if you just for ten fifteen minutes so prone to play from the back where when you could tell they snuck to work and it's just incredible. I don't know I offer. We're good in the first half as well before before the first. Obama younger surely do deserve more yeah definitely and it's just yeah. I think he said Warren and away from home. I think Gossen will have more trouble unless they changed something very quickly. Events were held by Fiorentina Nil Gab one point gained or two point loss and please show bit of Love Hunkin Ebay. I all told with hindsight it was definitely one point gained because this game could have gone a lot further absolutely hate you event is not the only team in Italy to do so but so they were all jude up frankly starting. Rocco flew over private jet before to be they played at three o'clock. Saturday moaned and moaned about having to play at three o'clock because it was too hot funny enough it would imagine was hoffer fuelling Tina as well. It was a bad bad performance from event. Now there are mitigating factors here and no I'm not talking about the heat mode although it was his very first game after his pneumonia so he could use that as an excuse to I know but they were hit by injuries during the game to to Danilo right back to panic midfield and of course most of all early on to Douglas it was cost. It was replaced have been a good player but it totally different player I think this game could've gone the other way. I think you know not much navel-gazing going on. Just it's just one point gained. Take it on the Chin and move on funnily enough to having a bit of a popping yeah yeah yeah. He's getting up there saying like the why are you complaining. He's like well. I think you should just stay calm and stop complaining since you know you're with the strongest strongest yeah yeah you're you're. You're with the power the deep state of Italian football which naughty from from content until you the two games are gonNA be exceptional. Just exceptional Gary Neville says it will take another three to four transfer windows to clear out the deadwood at Manchester United. He called them weeds needs as he put it. I pointed out the clock time to go and build a success Joel's. Who is he talking about because in terms of who still at the club and Do we really have to wait that long. I'm afraid I think you would take a long time and that that that would mean that they actually get it right is when the next three to four transfer windows which I'm not. I don't think he's a guaranteed why so short such a great CV. I don't I'm not sure would is capable of having three or four. Viagra transfer the windows in the road at some point as weeds and deadwood and cancers because nursing him out this right. Rojo's not playing buys means place playing. I think we're the young Jones Rojo. Phil Jones Sh yeah but he does. I don't think he meant people playing so people. Still you the way the reason they're not winning game notes but you need you need more. Brian your squads you know to be able to competition with the rush for the Pug. Bison doesn't mcdonagh's still buffing. McNamee's is playing so much so you know I think the base because they don't have any anyone else is about this. Is I feel like I've I heard this crap before it she names if you are talking about if you are talking because it seems to me like they moved a lot of guys out there who weren't playing flying you know blame them for not playing and I think it's a gentleman to demand higher standards at this point and by the way this whole e club in his first season reached the reached of Europa League final and the second season well yeah. He took over yeah which end in second season he he he finished so you know if you're gonNA make comparisons. Let's let's make a similar progression. Let's expect anybody finished. Anybody think that shows nailed on to finish fourth club style this year. No no woman name Saha Holiday. Yari died after setting yourself on fire outside of Tehran courthouse. She was jed earlier this year for disguising herself as a man in in order to attend a football match GOB. It's a horrible story and what more could fify be doing. This is a horrible story gills it has to do with the issue of of women not being allowed to go to football matches which isn't actually a law. That's on the books. it just more of a customer gets enforced enforced in her her case she was actually she was going to be sentenced to prison for violating rules on job because obviously she was disguised guys as a man I think it's pretty clear in the FIFA statutes and have pushed for this earlier. This should have had women go to football matches over to the Asian champions and finally don't earlier this year see I have written to them saying you know this is in our statutes. What are you. What are you doing about it? The response back is always. We don't have the the infrastructure to allow women. I have no idea what the hell Kinda infrastructure. They're talking about a portable toilets. What do we need at football grounds to be able to go. They obviously want to go. I think this is this is when your fate you you need to stop things up and you know they have the power to expensively yeah they will they could suspend them. The finishing would-be huge Bowie round obviously a major footballing power or they could also deny them development money but there is so much support and so much outrage we lean Iran even from religious people about this about about what happened to this young woman. It's just such a horrible horrible story that maybe you can get some face at. Maybe this could be the tipping point where something it's done all right. That's all we've got time for. this week was pretty packed. Show Gills I was yeah. Why are you looking forward the most this week in Champions League well I will be in your hometown of Paris Saint Germain against Rao Madrid from Wednesday night on deputy says well what about Napoli Liverpool Yeah and Almond Mond Buzzer and as we mentioned with crime so good. It's a good way to start the championing goodies this story lines to come out of it and we'll catch you all next week.

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Madrid Making Moves

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Madrid Making Moves

"Welcoming solicitation of ESPN say on Dan psomas joined there in the CJ today the treaty smile so that I can go and he's in a position where you can just turn players away because there is a there are some areas in which you have to be concerned so injuries are part of the reality Real Madrid now whether it's like this it doesn't quite make sense from that point of view in terms of the market value it makes a whole Lotta sense for rare Marie to invest in a guy who would have come at a much higher price what you need so you're just bringing them to make numbers up you're not bringing them because he's addressing a need an area in which you're saying you know what we have to have a player a tiny little list in the midfield a category and so they do need midfielders in terms of numbers but what they really need in truth is another number ten stroke attacking midfielder stroke okay so you could see that happening because you get the feeling Tottenham that something's got to give and they need to freshen things up so yeah I think for Madrid wanted enough it can happen you let him go look at the squad lists in recent weeks admittedly because some injuries they actually put the squabbling they publish them Goalkeepers Defenders Field as forwards and his great big long list everywhere and so if for this story to reemerge for it's a to reemerge from cloudy it's because I've a foreign tino all the rest of the rights of decided we do this anyway all because aww Tony Cruz there's nobody who can take the position Okaz Amedeo but the point that sid is making makes a whole lot of sense in that that kind of player is not exactly in January savings you say okay let's get some money for him and move on well I think I think he's an he looks always kind of half choked wanted to go to row Madrid I think it's a pretty open secret in the summer it didn't happen I think they'd get him for something like thirty million pounds because of the situation with his contract in June well except that we had in the summer and sit down one that time is it I'm was was adamant as you've just pointed out that it was poker that he wanted Rao Madrid in the in Luke's is always not interested right and of course we know Daniel Levy lakes bringing money and so it seems to me that you would just let them go get some money he's in what it's going to be a discounted price in the end problematic sit could it be going forward the sedan doesn't get entity because of course Ericsson because of his contractual situations burs would come very cheap but then of course in the summer he would come for free this is a reminder contract is up at the end of the season good enough for amateur Christian Harrison having been an important player over the years for Tottenham Hotspur maybe not quite as much lately but his mind I think it's been a bit scrambled by everything that's been going on the creative forward they've got lots of those and so this is a deal I think that they want to make it done they want they want to get it done rather they know that this is a market Dan has backed down or calls because they've just decided right well we want to try and force the issue on this now there's a little bit of me that doesn't entirely see the point in this deal now ramage at the moment influencing oh Perez but Zidane's and not so keen he's the ones pull pumper said Peres is the only winner surely this scrap uh-huh and Lebanon Donna Dan Narrow Ericsson Ericsson could be heading to the Santiago Bernabeu according to reports is the president of Real Madrid who wants him I don't know the answer to that because oversee is problematic now and there's he wanted paper into the side for the star this season as the season moves on and he starts to find solutions and get rid of a body again and start building again does he fit into this team I think is a good enough play for Marie I don't think right now Sierra so there is a sense that they're finding solutions that so I don't necessarily think if they can find an alternative poke the similar enough that have a similar kind of skill set you know it was very difficult poker they'd lined up a couple of other deals one was was this WanNa call someone was debate from from from ax and there was a very clear sense from that right we want to bring them infielder in these two that we think we think can work exam was so adamant that had been cut in the end they didn't get any of those players promise to get in the plaza wanted promise to get rid of the players that he wanted weren't able to do so now there's a difference between not being able to do so and refusing to do so which is why I think that Nicole seen very good performance in the last from Federal Valverde who has some of pope was qualities not quite the same sort of player but he covers a lot of ground he's quite direct he gets into both those kind of problems can be overcome but of course there is that little bit of tension that still remains said as you're on and we need to talk about a story that we've discussed a similar sort of level then perhaps it's not too much of a problem but it was a problem in the summer not Lisa because it that degree of tension between down the club there's IT and felt the club who had he gets a standing ovation after his performance against Granada two days comes out and said that enough because you drop me in that champion's league game well that's that's a great way to start them because Oh camp this is why you've got to take this story seriously and the big question I said why why now why is he coming out and saying this now considering all the summer very had all those problems forty eight hours out front page of bail says he wants to go that he's had enough the reason this is a big deal obviously Bala Gate well linked within Spanish football well link within the Gareth I can take no more that said of course some of the underlying element of this story this really is no different from what we've been talking about going all the way back to August we talked about it in in the middle of September Knbr as well I think when we were saying that violence playing now he's in the team now he starting now he's getting continuity now but that doesn't mean he's playing remember that comment playing happily at this early stage you say he will go because of course we saw this summer even if you want to go even if the club is trying to force you out you have to find an exit and the summer they didn't is if you read the printing of this article at it fits exactly we've your question don't police is bio- tyke no more and at that point because of the timing is you right angry about that feels irritated by that and yeah I don't doubt for minute idea that well if there was a good while I'd take it but that's not quite the same for on the outside looks like not the worst thing you can say to referee yeah I mean it's been interpreted differently depending on yes I think he will he can take no more of being a starter in the team that's top of the League who's just provided a wonderful assist them being innovation by the fans this isn't the moment to be thinking one until very late in the summer they found that opportunity to go to China thought it was all done and the last minute realm of turned around and said no and so I think is in Spain they go head-to-head October twenty six and of course we know den belly available for the first classic of the season something we've discussed as well with a lot the last couple of days after bellaigue saints maternal hosts the referee you'll very bad not once but twice what's your reaction to the punishment they received cool so much study you divide your uninspiring but also I think there's a sense that this was Matola half a referee who is known for being an Improv and this will happen because it's very very difficult to make this happen and personally if I was able to go about your question the timing be thinking look I'm not very happy I'm not very pleased with the August either on our youtube page you may not have heard this end but mansion hi I'm very good at the moment it may have a great relationship the manager but hey I'm a star now at wral Madrid again and so between now and the end the season I think a lot can happen that will times absolutely the opposite you cannot talk to me in fact there's some footage from this game of Louis Wire saying something and him saying worth shuts up and so I was saying what can't we talk that's where the law you get two games band this what's known as a lack of consideration for the referee and so despite that sense that well the referee was very heavy handed opposition that's needed a position you linked with is that something that's needed at at Manchester United another that other layer I think it's a shame that tail off saying no no of this don't talk mode a place is very bad and get sent off but that said is a second yellow card by the so the way this plays out it's interesting when you take a look at the league table because we've talked a lot about Ramzan bustling around the problems that both sides have so far this season yet they all wanted to remember that comment he made when he was lost while Scott what was it three or four weeks ago and he said I'm playing but wouldn't sound playing happily and that is this in a nutshell now I think is very difficult with the rule book in hand there's not much can be said about it a lot of discussion as and they're being stevie nickel leading the charge on side of the referee for once what's you can check out performer shall we say he equinoxes in the center of attention he does seem to be making up as he goes along he sometimes very very much a referee who will have dialogue with players and then eighteen play and you think well under performing or is this just about as good as they are and I think the answer is the second point this is the worst Manchester United stuff they bring things for it I'm sure the quality upstairs in directors room and of course when things are not going well looking at at the APPS and push abilities thirty years and the transfer dealings and I'm sure you've discussed a lot on this program on a daily basis have been totally inadequate they got in Maguire. You mean you're not watching talk about Manchester United without so shawn in particular should he be gone already I think it's been very very close when I came in and restroom yet Ryan Giggs yet skulls it's Ferdinand Neville even working that time I think always been something in the last few weeks he doesn't concern it round but he's a great squads were with when he came in you could see what he was trying to do and play cantered sacking they've got real problems and I think it's not going to be too long before he's gone social robot if you got the phone call from Ed Woodward said right you are now in charge of Manchester United how it's been strong characters and I think for the last year Sean character says have disappeared and not making making the difference anymore is director of football instinctive goalscorer there they sold lukarco and it was social who decided Lukaku wasn't the right guy to play up front he became disillusioned he wanted out okay I get whatever the the coach doesn't manage those need to speak about player of other clubs and from either self I'm a good relationship with words we are in a couple of committees together with you but I need more players in the danger I think they've dominated possession and most of the games that had but they've not been creating chances because in that front area there hasn't been enough players and restaurants Madisha and I think a up needs to needs to run how they want them to run and of course media and and they they they yeah they apply hasn't been good enough he needs somebody much closer to Mexico do the job because he's not athletic enough and lean God doesn't seem to have this sort of understanding of where he needs to bail the runs but I'm sure you will be in next coming year it does not have a lot of dance India pace but when teams of adjusted to that and that's what they wanna do and not leaving that space in behind doesn't mean any creativity he's tried to bring matter into to give that bit ago to the side it's just go about fixing it with this group of players well firstly I would do is I've got to play up from because we see in Russia platform bond sell and he's wait a minute where is the service coming from where is it quality possession coming from and once we get past midfield where is it that we're going to break somebody down that but they need somebody who's going to get twenty twenty five goals a season they do not have anybody who can do that so I think yet to upfront but who are the two it's not even though he is primarily indulgence united relegated now relegated some people are even starting to raise that issue and you look at currently twelve th in the table nine points after eight matches willing to sit down interview for the shock legend about that current predicament the opposition just block the balls into the front if they could get to upfront which means by the plan three at the back you play a four four two and one of the trump plaza just to drop off when the opposition get the Ezell said they haven't got latest mcguire may be when he's these very best popa could be later but he's in and out Haya goalkeeper is he a leader you slip up in an unscripted way sometimes look at Newcastle Crystal Palace Leicester they lost their as well as the Chelsea game and this season they've lost a Norwich an things know that he wants to running behind so they're not allowing that space and quite often they get the boys a quite good areas when they plan out from the bite when they get it wide when the fullback gets the ball and there's just nothing he's the make so that would be the first thing I would do change the system and make sure I get to upfront so there's more applies in the box when bordering wide areas given the job they haven't got though is the Amol last season as well and set a terrific pace themselves I mean this isn't a new thing with Manchester City there are magical team their best and they can look fantastic but they win the ball back so quickly as soon as they lose it that's what we did it Barcelona that's what he did it by Munich that's what he's done for most of the time at Man City that guy against knowledge the game against Wolves Whoa that doesn't seem to be any organization seem to be any spur of the moment and he looks looks lost on the side chain has you're GonNa get the team winning again and said I've been to easy to counterattack when they lose possession is it over here don't think is quite over but that's a big gap now bridge eight point remember Liverpool only lost one there's nobody gonna get them the ball almost seems like why would you take this right now just look at midfield paid is there with US said you sat down and try to Rhodri is there any sense from conversation you had with him that there are some problems well he talked about them having to was being in the transitional when they've lost possession there to fullbacks it'd be high out the field which they do and they usually dominate possession they forced the opposition back and it hasn't been a problem for them Yeah Norwich away from promoted team and now the latest debate that we sort the weekend against wolves so they're prone to slip-ups said does every day every second round disappointed in the types of I think disappointment says welcome shirt robson when the he needs to drop in between the psalms at times and be a more defensive player to allow the four bucks to go higher upfield when Gaudio's teams Platt their very best yes they can play outstanding football this team right now is a shambles Manchester City nowhere near Shambolic poor starts the season by their high standards eight points at fifty four of courses a perfect questions easy I suppose although is what's wrong with saying that we've seen recently against Norwegian against wolves it's a learn from what's going on so far he said look any team in any stage in season is going to have a bad spell and obviously Liverpool may well have that but we have to be close enough to them that we as well he's in a position where he almost single-handedly has responsibility for all of the defensive work the midfield does the rest of field is is a long way in front of him and of course he's still learning but the to send the house when they have been captured Fernandina in the last game and not mendy made bad decisions Rodriguez a a good football I don't think he under quite is getting in he's learning a game that is different to the one that he played it via the out different even to the one that he played appetizer Madrid and so he's he's still find his feet there and I think there's a huge issue it's not something that you can say is subjective Nano his absence makes a difference for this team I would also ask for Bro that if I were interview him and I'm not trying to do its job but shooting Fernandina planning your position isn't here better defensive midfielder than you are and adverse left Madij where did they terminate where do you turn and safe right you don't forget about Frederick you look around show every time you step on the field you have to prepare properly the factors they got problems defensively because company retired apart so have to be able to take advantage of that he he made the point that that there was no point now in in in kind of worrying about it there's no point in giving up just have to analyze what you've done and then improve he also to get him the bull to people front you have to be able to get the ball and they don't have entity of Poland was not playing there is an antibody including mafia you can't run anymore was very clear I think that he thinks injuries of course some problems and although he didn't say this of course you look at those two center Baxter just named and not the most impressive to centrebacks in the world and so what we're finding is because you're trying to plug holes everywhere you seem to be a man short everywhere and so therefore you find Mantis to see that when they lose the very you can check it out over on the website I'm pretty sure I knew how might be hunt what makes you say that the furniture is levitated have responsibility on him but I also think I don't know what you feel off feels like after two league titles in a row now I'm not saying this is why Mansi lost and it may well be elsewhere does that sneak in well maybe but how does that account from America LaPorte and not being out on the field that's an injury issue and that's that's that's a real the guy go we call today and see how easy homeowners and renters insurance can be Belgium on the first team who have caller long on the ghost welcome home yeah that's that's bookie you know what's really scaring missing out on Geico for help with homeowners and renters insurance this guy who makes it easy to sing bunch great you're not sticking around the bar is just getting started avs Northern Ireland kept their shape it was obvious very early on in the game ball to play on was for daily blink getting forward down the left hand side the Crossville they did it on several key five for next year's European championship after beating San Marino just nine goals ten new nail biter qualification Russia you imagine join them the big scare and it was a big moment I think Ronald Koeman to say this side aren't quite there yet we still need to do a lot of work on the way we play the game when watching this phone we in they did but it went back to the Dutch of a couple of years ago where they had seventy percent possession a lot of passing square passing through intimate Ville back to the fleets the other team to step up another gear and you look at three one and it looks comfortable yeah I'll tell you what comes on and they're doing well in that group I mean losing achieve reinforces this is it all about the Champions League this season is that a problem mommy giving them they want to on on the bounces priorities all in a bad area they're not in a position to that's not new but it's not good news for my city because you don't have solutions you don't have answers to those questions mentally Stevie does it take it still to maintain that one hundred percent record and you can join us tomorrow reflecting on that game plus the other big stories as so the Russians beat Scotland four nil as well it's given a scam nine and they won the money got there he didn't cross the boy went back again by half the play with penetration that's when they're they're very best it took them seventeen minutes to realize that's a play more urgency Northern Ireland favorites to win the championship next year bad they're eight action tomorrow the biggest star is probably Johnny Evans defender there with the Netherlands in Germany and their level on points with them while for many especially Stevie England the winning sides I I I don't believe so with a monitor that God the older and go out the always been around long enough he understands that you cannot pick and choose what you're going to win at the tenth at Anfield Live Manchester City Liverpool Keane in the argument right there oh you promote beautiful sites and Steve is like oh no problem and they did so badly wants the brakes and all of a sudden she's one Lewis things arms and football now from around Europe Franklin with us as well Ansbach as well hey tough stafa politics so far for Chelsea around the seventy th minute they rallied with three late goals to guarantee four to three points being no nine three one done in the end robot oh one of those things it's very difficult to explain to somebody but some great Jonathan has just taken over here and then it's over just the flights we're going to have to make do and when you play against teams that are going to shit and break on you and that's the only way you're gonNA lose the non you can do about massive game isn't it Robeson will be joining us later on low as well and is in Spain that we start we're going to cut right to newspapers you can put it Wayne Erickson oranges afraid we won't be that by the way you can see if she did a satisfactory job at least expectation we'll see the assist so that's why in the four one Hampton staving good win what's going on around him that wise making a run on behind just apparently we on his return to the US cam saying I feel the best I have I feel very confident in my game I'm not going to let any about the lack of playing time Chelsea affect me in both the he runs on false him not let talks there've been behind his it's for this shorter but it certainly it certainly not even close right now the talent that he has is when you consider that Chelsea maybe there whole idea of youth movement well that should be including him the problem is that the youth movement seems to be including all the other exciting Blair's exit him and it has nothing to do with an anti American bias it has nothing to do with some sort of feeling that Christian Pulisic ahead of this USA game is exactly the right thing to say off most players try and force the Wiz sometime and eight for injuries wait for your chance that it might be worth looking for a loan now well that's in January and they can think about how much gametime he's getting there and whether they would on and make him think about putting him in the starting lineup in the premier league and the Champions League conspiracy theories forget it so from a US perspective though is Gins Gnawed Frank Lampard player it has everything to do with the fact that Frank Lampard looks at this players on the training field evaluate what he sees and he liked what he sung comments on twitter and not from you saying that if English in give them more of a chance and now that's all nonsense to play and clearly you're not interesting continues how long is that timeline it's a personal thing completely listening took me it took me eighteen months nearly two years the best player you're looking at it in that sense you want him to be getting as much playing time developing as possible so as an argument if this continues as much as you can wait for suspensions rain well wait for his chances they will be introduced there will be suspensions he will get games and when he gets those games he's got to make Frank Lampard a fat the topic in England because mice amounts played well Hudson and doors come into the side and played well William these factories very petro's injured I think at the moment but put a sick the Champions League they got the League Cup the Cup he will get games from now until the end of the season depends what he plays he's GonNa get too many leaks belts I've seen Christian Pulisic well actually you see him out there on the field and may some man has made an impact for Chelsea out on the field it is clear to see now you can you can go and dig statistics and you can sorta kind of piece things together and formulate an argument for Christian Pulisic but that's reaching at this point nothing to do with nationality here Frank Lampard scored a talented squad of players and he picks the team I'm with Stewart I think really he's going to just buckle down already and be the Monitor's not ready to pick me and everybody has a different timeframe but eventually the comes a time with either chat the door and say I should be into the the fourteen and you go through a process of understanding when you try to do that the EU maybe out the door when I went to Liverpool as a nineteen year old no he's hit a bit more experienced obviously than me than I was in the united he's adornment so has has timeframe will be allow him to go I don't suppose he'd want to go he wants to make a success of it Chelsea and there's still time for him to do that is early days yet I mean think what he said that Glen and if you really believe that that we shave but if you dawn an attack comes in the door and you see Anita go somewhere else is that our I put a sick so there's no reason why he's going to play them at the moment as long as he stays in the scored and when he comes only does well he might folks back into the side remember they've got a lot of games this season the simplistic is in a position that every professional that goes to the club goes to goes through unless you're a huge name you don't just walk into the door and into the story as a player at Chelsea welcome this is what you want this is what you saw no four here's an opportunity take advantage of it on the normal circumstances sees from Mesa Mountain he likes what he sees from Houghton and William and what's not to like so when you make an argument and say something along the lines that may some man hasn't been better than lineup you're in a position where you have to fight in order to get into the starting lineup you have to fight to prove your worth to the team you have to fight inorder establish yourself you'll possible reverse biles but the moment he's not GonNa get in the side Frank Lampard likes mason mount he likes Hudson and he thinks he's back to his very best and he didn't why is younger than him Hudson Toy Nineteen Mason Mount Twenty and he's the holder of various to at least you know he's got if if it is better is marginally better I don't think so I if you are a fan of the US national team has played well when he's when he's been in the side when he's coming on as a sub and that's what he's GonNa do when he comes in and he gets comes on as a sub light on the game he's going to affect the game and he did that against Southampton the Games and analyse objectively individual performances and the individual talent that is available out there on the field and compare it to improve improvement and you see the team play and is this team better as I said before marginally better if that man other teams not only in your area not only conquer calf but across the wall and tell me whether this US team is truly truly competitive at the top tier level the best possible eleven ideally yeah exactly arguable whether that was the best ball that's another point has that been if worked hard on the Saturday and they play full game and then they come in on Monday and they can't quite work full pace that's when Pulisic take the opportunity to play better than them you come in so let's see where they could take it with this team but we won't find out until the World Cup qualifiers in the World Cup itself sitting no the answer that's a part of that you should be concerned about that you have taken this two years apparently to try to start a new process and truly take steps forward Rubin is that eleven better than the eleven that failed to qualify for the World Cup we know frankly yet because they haven't really properly been tested but while they are doing is bringing every day he goes into training needs to be better than those two when those two players Hudson door and the company the amount when when they've when do think there is some promise in those some of those young players who are coming through what I would say as well as that you just mentioned Mexico when you see in those matches between it's approve he's as good if not better than those plays we're talking about a young play yes but he's got to prove that he's better than those two players that at the moment Franklin parts preferred Eh you don't see enough of it and you don't see enough talent across the board to truly say you know what yeah they're better don't think so and through new players like Tyler Rodham should be a good addition to the team Weston mckennie use a regular the shelter in the Bundesliga realistic we know about the talent I suppose you could argue yeah but he's young he's only he's only twenty one is still developing points to prove the issue that he's gone Israeli mentioned is that there is a youth going on with meanwhile where were you two years ago a significant moment of course as a US lost against turn on Tobago meaning that they wouldn't by the way they've also departed from what they used to be difficult to be physical athletic good and said pieces if they're gonNa beat the you got a place in a larger context with the USA you're talking about long-term they've lost Howard Dempsey Donovan see the individual talent of those players and compare it to what the US have available you don't have guys that break somebody down in One v one you just don't see fight for the World Cup in France just to remind of eleven that lost two one against your Nance Vega back in two thousand seventeen postlewait now each one nothing that's fine they'll take while they're not that anymore but they're also not proactive passing creative team because they don't have that makeup in terms of when he's GonNa run harder he's GonNa go past me with the book is going to make things happen and they never look over to Frank Lampard say I'm ready because he's got to do that weekend week at day in day out sadly still there but he's but he's a bit older pass thirty now so they've lost some key players they've not really been able to replace him and I think they're still in the process of molding something different they haven't arrived at the destination yet I don't think long way off there are a long way off at the moment is that the New Mexico Games proven they're not there yet but Mexico the US that we have seen lately and you see chocolate Lawson take a player when one one V one situation and you see Linus and you see that I will he menace and he's got personally if I was looking at eleven I'd go Joe Shut Sajjan up top right place for Vada Raymond I think he's GonNa be the Croft about him in something a little bit different and the just like couldn't get forward and they took control the game so I think sorry got his tactics right Antonio contact couldn't change and the other thing which have mentioned many many times for instance applied Alan competing for one of the worse at the moment terrible salts of the season for them of course new coach coming in this week Stefan up yolly taking the reins Oh combination they played against Sam Dora Excellent in the first episode essentially it's got off they were excellent against Barcelona for sixty minutes centuries of Martinez played up front lukarco it's GonNa be kind of hard to be over my dead body attitude maybe they've lost a little bit of that in recent times and that's going to be the basis of it as always aim will thank some seven fifteen games live on Espn Robo is the first time we've had you on since win two or three years that he was there so he's a manager that can have good spells but is inconsistent and I think it might just have an impact on the side that didn't really want to play for the player personnel available and so they're sort of an in between and that's what their performances look like an in-between team I think you made a good point I think well thank you gotta be feisty well Lacob has to be good with these back to go and he wasn't good with his back to goal so older link-up play all the bulls played into the wasn't ready for it couldn't link up the play and for for Real Madrid who thinks seven eight nine ten because of the performance against suggests that there is such a good side but like any more seriously than seat can disappoint center this is very slow the fight to the commentary on the US inaction against Canada on Tuesday you in Toronto for that game in the New Nation's League oh yeah it should be good Palo so he might over the first five or six weeks gets results but over the long term accounts and be announcer to Milan problems spent like the birth Danny Anyway supposed to and I saw fair like analyzing these seriously is a bit like analyzing the the Bond Dole team of the year seriously yeah breath thoughts on shuckers power rankings I mean every week it appears to be just kind of a random collection of names thrown in in any position some they've made you wait all this time just to comment on the power rankings before we let you go your thoughts people go I won't be back tomorrow more of this nonsense until then goodbye welcoming season again you vendors were on top of the game and deserved to win it tapping into rarely challenged rubber I think they can make a challenge but they're not going to be it is obviously off but here is the power rankings at number one you've got to win against in accessory the things he said about Georgina last season Joe Genial again no doubt Certainly no I still think you it's tough to answer there were they not this yet it'd be takes this long to try and come up with an answer is not an obvious yes yeah south of South America South American teams yet just rude I'm pretty sure does anyone know the semi finals and everything that's going on you know what this is the moment isn't right platform I don't think bras rich can really dictate the games as much as maybe pianist camphor you inventors is going to be tough for them event is still the best team in Syria coach Robinson going when it takes the ten things around what was the third in the league when he first took over NCAA shock Heslop Hatrick once then a couple of years later he's not doing quite so well he did the same within three started off really well because some great results and then they fell away fearing teeny had a terrible record of fear there over the come the end of it I think it's it's a side that if he gets his way on I think it'd be better we sent you and I think we might come out the side centuries and Martinez Upfront Cooper not all inclusive at the Place de Nice to say something that you to volunteer to get involved with maybe from we've done a desk planning behind renown on one side and debate on the other side and that looked to be okay but they they went that little bit wider false the wing backs of incident go that little bit heavy sorry awesome podcast break down and you can join Meena Nikki and Gabby short download the latest loses an Englishman do you revel in the lender horrible bunch of famous I I should say that is the clichy I'm supposed to that now I actually liked the Tom and I like it just doesn't make any sense takes various robot your thought on pleased to see eventers have gone up fooled by Russia yeah we would actually sit and looking at teen go well nationalism emily was trying to be positive four nil cancer the question I absolutely stevie is a Scotsman rebels when England Ah the club guy even depends on the international maybe Brazil against Argentina you're going to the international game over sure time at least the boss well properly start the show where you have the water wrong and tried to fully hydrated gave a away against into what was your big takeaways from it Well sorry you got the better of coincidence to the tactics he played with three chick wants hanging on about it because we have to make enough money Malone Stevie when will Scotland make it to the world cut all offscreen to policy for with a bit more so he's being more creative I think he's putting much better performance is this season he did last year and maybe that's Ju- to Franklin bottle skin to do something slightly different but the human delete easily I don't know if it's going to be the biggest challenge surprisingly even though they can defer at all I'm GonNa say the elegantly certain Robson neighbors as well the first question is for you might see the Craig but we found is that for you as well Robo if he feels stupid yet after and the reason I say that because you look at the results over the course of the season he was the illegality that trouble AFC the most it wasn't anybody else supportive as you saw when the Southampton player from past weekend and he stuck out and they went boss he's Paulson's be much better this year that may be due to Franklin obviously it's hard to be very subtle about it different though did and it didn't work mentioned that we let it ride who pass everybody else except the face do you think's GonNa win analysts who think yes quite because I think it's shocking wonderful as much relative Sayed Ali and to Steve he on molest go you guys the record puts total didn't they I'm going to go with Lonzo it lands at any films said that you've seen ten or more times and keeps getting better each time you watch I need some films to watch over the international break you can't score for every time you step on the bill because right now that's the kind of situation we're GONNA win three the key is actually do today to Russia could be a forty eight

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MLS Returns; Liverpool Loses Big to Watford; Real Madrid Beats Barcelona in El Clasico

Planet Futbol with Grant Wahl

43:50 min | 8 months ago

MLS Returns; Liverpool Loses Big to Watford; Real Madrid Beats Barcelona in El Clasico

"What's up everybody? Welcome to planet. Football's podcast my good friend of my colleague. My partner in crime grant will is a way vacation but guess what I have brought in the big guns. I am so happy to bring one of my favorite people in the world. Mr Kevin Egan Cav. How are you my friend? I'm great I'm supposed to be on the show. It's you laugh and talk about the beautiful game thank you. That's according to view. I'm thrilled to be here with you. Though for the next hour or so for those don't know Kevin Is a busy man. He obviously aside from covering Atlanta United. He's also now going to be working with. Cnn world. Sports. Is that right yeah? I'm looking forward to that. I just Signed UP WITH CNN. So I'm going to be filling in his host every now and then but most mostly you know soccer correspondent covering everything from Champions League to weaken gains around the world as well so a lot of fun in there so far I look forward to developing the soccer on tencent as getting on air as much as possible for all sorts of regions around the world. It's crazy how far CNN world. Sport goes after you do show. You Interactions People from Africa from Asia. That are all tuning in whether it be in a hotel. Rooms are at home so it's nice that my parents get to watch back in Ireland to. Yeah that's great. I'm so happy for you and also you know that means that you know your lovely wife. We'll have to do all the hard work now that you've moved house you know. Louis I'm currently. You should see myself right now in talking to you just moved into a new house in Atlanta. Just got the WIFI setup before the show here and My little toddlers is running around the house here trying to find trouble. Every single rail were thrilled trump. Having it'll be more face well we are happy. Obser- happy and I'm so happy to have you. Let's get things going straight away. Listen so normally. We would obviously begin with Europe. The Premier League even Glassy Golf course which was such a big thing but because it was week one we have to begin with major league soccer and amyloid. There's been so many storylines from this weekend so just to do a little list of what we're going to go through with. Mls Week one. We're GONNA talk about some of the highlights of the weekend. Some of the low lights and a few expectations of what's to come as the season moves on we will move onto the Premier League Lou Liverpool. Losing to Wofford is. Obviously the biggest talking point will follow that up with classical. And we'll finish by the way as you all may or may not know. Kevin Myself Are Faithful Villa fans so we have to talk about the League Cup final with Nancy and Aston Villa but moving on to begin. Let's go with families have let's talk about fewer assaults obviously the biggest talking point From your end came sadly Later on Sunday with Joseph Martinez The Venezuelan number nine united suffering a torn ACL during. It's a two one win over Nashville. Really really disappointing news. What do you make of it? It's heart-wrenching for Atlanta defines UNFOR- Joseph Martinez. I A lot of players get injured release. But there's not many guys that I've ever met in broadcasting and covering the game live for the game and this is the important point Josette Martinez. You know little story. Last year we were in the middle of the season on Joseph had started to rediscover his form. And I'm walking outside the training complex and then going back to my car Joseph pulls alongside me and I said How you feel in Joseph and he looks at me and he smiles and he just said I just want to score goals man. I don't care about anything else. I need joke then. He kind of drove off on. I thought about that an awful lot because it's so true he's got that similar drive. It's so hard to find in footballers you know Renaldo. Has that same individual winning mentality. Joseph. A team player. Don't get me wrong. But those individual accolades mean a lot to him like they do for someone like Renaldo too and for Joseph T to miss. Time is devastating. He always thought that the preseason on skews me was far too long to get me back out there. I just want to play. And that's the thing about him. A lot of guys can can be okay with this. If the families they'll use the time to to rate read some books I and I don't know Joseph overly well what I do know of him. Is that missing time in the field and having to watch play and not be part of it is devastating for him before lunch. United. They've gotTA move on. They picked up all three points in Nashville ethics scenes. There for anyone that missed sixty thousand people in music city was a joy to see and Atlanta United. I felt deserved winners with goals from Barco and Emerson hyman now. They must go. Replace the irreplaceable. No one's done Joseph. Martinez has done over the course of three years. Eighty two goals in three seasons healing. Play on that's just simply remarkable. So I think it's really difficult and on already rumors of garlic daniels storage potentially who terminated his contract Trabzonspor in Turkey today? So it's GonNa be fascinating to see what Carlos Bocanegra can do absolutely. That was the biggest thing that we were talking about really about. You know something that. I tweeted pretty much once. The news came out which is listened like obviously this is just a tragedy for Atlanta United Joseph Martinez and Venezuela to us as as it gets ready to Do World Cup qualifiers. But this is a big thing for the League as well because Joseph Martinez pretty much represents mls in many ways at least the mls of now the South American Hungry striker who not just motivated. Team Buddy motivates in the entire city. I mean the two thousand eighteen. Mvp You mentioned the goals and the hunger and the drive that he has just pushing everybody on so we wish him all the best. But like you said. The job has to be taken now by Carlo Boca United. Who are they going to get? You mentioned Daniel Storage. I think that actually in many ways is a no brainer. But I'm also hearing into Miami is probably also going with it but there's a lot a lot of work to do for Atlanta But to me goals talent skill aside which obviously he hasn't brings bags of two means about just the personality that that's going to be missing pitch you you hit the nail on the head there. He's a winner. He inspires people on the field. He looks frustrated. Even if you're winning for five nail. He looked frustrated if he'll bark at his teammates. If the passes aren't rice so he was harping on the Brooklyn into service right to to Joseph and he's just such a big miss terms as personality on Saturday against Cincinnati. It's ugly broadcasting a game with Fox sports so our home opener Atlanta. I think they'll go without him. John Played at Phoenix rising last year. Sorts seventeen goals and played with San Jose and Columbus and mls before that he's someone who's very serviceable honestly. He really is. He's underrated I think. And he can lead the line. He can beat a focal point of front and a different way. To Joseph the most underrated Aspe- Joseph's Game I think is this whole to play to bring into it and and something out of John's quite good so I could see him doing well against Cincinnati but after I got to find a replacement and who knows they could go completely not only ambitious and out of left field. I even thought of a guy like leukemia. But you couldn't get around the I mean if you could grab someone like that until June July and states around Madrid. We're going to get this guy score and again for you like. Oh yeah now. I'm with you. I think that you need to just really open to specter just to finalize the point. This is a lot more to talk about an Malays. But you know somebody like you know Leonardo Campana who just moved to wolves. He's playing for the under twenty. Three's you know he he could be offered. Maybe like a six month term seven-month term with you know with longer option. You never know I just think that at night. It has just like it. Thought outside of the box with me. Allow me on and so forth. The same thing needs to happen right now because the key thing is the identity you have to maintain identity on the last point on Joseph. Do that when they signed him. He had scored seven goals. Six Games for Torino. He was a winger with Torino and they identified him as a strike are in a similar way to rate as a striker as opposed to a wing and they've totally transformed his career and likewise he's turned on the city of Atlanta and sporting landscape in Atlanta. So go to think outside the box as you say ambitious with this and I'm bring someone in who can keep the base alive and well because right now. They're devastated but he's lost. I don't WanNa keep going on about it but I wonder if the bowers I xe. A connection might have something to do with it in the future. We will see but let's talk about the other big headlines Obviously L. AFC beating a resilient albeit imperfect. Inter Miami the rookie. Now in the League in front of the Bank of California Stadium Fans Carlos Valla with a ridiculous. Go Again for me care. He is the best player in the League right now on L. Afc my favorite to win the whole thing. We can talk a lot about that later but L. Afc is looking good and the thing about C. Right now obviously. It's just week one but they are wiser. I think now and players like Brian Rodriguez. Who's now more comfortable in the League? You know seems more comfortable obviously Rossi but they look like they have a mission to make an yes. It's just week one but I think we're gonNA see some good things for me. The season agree yet. I'm watching the closing stages of that game. I'm watching Pizarro win a free kick in the ninety four th minute I'm thinking. Nfc Two points here in Miami. Were really rootless. Perot had another chance. And he's diving in for across You know he couldn't quite steer toward go. They didn't show that ruthlessness and obviously Lewis Relatives in Gull to. They didn't have that cutting edge that we've seen before we Quan as you say they get through the barrier already of CAF Champions League next age too so it's been a really positive stock for him. After Bob Reilly that is I know so Carl Like to score that go almost lose. I don't know if that was the best of the weekend. It may be the best individual solo effort but the one that says wow to me if we can if we just on your son. Jose earthquakes to down at home against Toronto. Toronto looking really really good. All of a sudden San Jose. Get back into the game They get it. Go back through Andre Real and then in the ninety fifth minute Oswaldo in centre-back by yet cover does what Tony Cross did in the world. Those with David Beckham did for Milan. I on scores. Nobody expected but it was the most audacious attempt at that stage of the game. And it's up there. We saw some Brennan glasses event. Now that's a very very good call was a good day for For a lot of Mexican stars obviously chetty Darren score they galaxy drew with Houston Dynamo. That was another grey gull from Powell on But also Olympic Leila scored as well for Sporting Kansas City winning three one Acela and for Columbus crew scored the only goal against him why. Cfc after losing a man early on Shinar got a red card So you know it was a it was definitely a really exciting Weekend of action. Is there anything else you think? I have a few more things but do you think there's anything else that that stood out to you From opening week one Minnesota going away to Portland. I'm picking up three points. We saw this team Mitch off lot under Adrian. Heat last year and a lot of different teams would have been tempted to let a coach. Go after Really poor start to the franchise history yet. Minnesota have been flying under the radar probably because they came in at the same time as the united they stole a lot of the headlines but to see them come through like they go way to Portland. I'm perform the way they did. And and have an identity to show a ruthless counterattacking streak in someone you know. Look insanely on the flank. Who's WHO's playing. He looked like he was playing some of the best ball of his career. Or maybe three or four years ago. When he was with Columbus I thought him alongside a real problem with excellent. Kevin Malino pulling the strings win with a goal to huge for me. They probably started out as a side that got the best result to go away to a place like Portland. Raucous atmosphere pickle ball three point six massive for myself. I think that's a really good point. The final thing. I'll talk about his tear. Ornery Montreal. Yeah we saw what they've done in the CONCACAF Champions League and you know they come away with a solid win against Bruce Arena's New England revolution to listen again obviously the theme and the sentiment. It's going to be that it's just week one. Obviously there's a lot more Soccer to be played but you know they look good and the thing about is that it wasn't long ago you know when you know. He took his first dent with Monaco. And I think he's learned a lot of lessons since then They look really pragmatic really adaptable. Desisting changes and according to who they're playing which actually says a lot about how dare unreas- learning and with no necessary stars when Montreal They're looking like a good team again. It's very early but the signs are telling me that tyranny is finding a good You know antidote for the past seasons with Montreal and Vice Versa Revitalizing his career his early coaching career. What do you think? There's a lot of incomplete rosters in major league soccer right now. Certainly Montreal is one of those looking squad and the team that took on New England. I thought to myself if he's not good enough terrier unreas- GonNa grow frustrated at the lack of quality in the squad. But you're right to point that out that he changes within the game and also if you can get a tune out of macaroni. You're doing really really well. This doesn't score goals. He's a great link-up guy but traditionally historically you look at the years involved in major league soccer rudy medical. Go score and yet he finishes that chance absolutely brilliant. There's another crocker ago. Barely touched on is a a rudy love and the goalkeeper in the eightieth minute at Olympic Stadium. Brilliant crowd in Montreal. I it's one thing got. I don't know if people listening really understand that the culture and the fan base within Montreal. There's a huge amount of pressure on this team to succeed as a big mountains of pressure on you always superior to and when this team performs well. Everyone in Montreal is all in when this team is poor and when there's a lack of I'm vicious about the side people in Montreal grow frustrated and they will walk away from the team so it's an emotional fan base but it's an incredibly educated find base when it comes to the game you know. Never forget being there and seeing Patrice Bernier. Take a ball down this chest and spray it past. Everybody in the stadium starts. A poodle was on their feet. Applauding Patrice Bernier. There's there's just this this low for the game in Montreal. That's very evident. And that's why from what I'm hearing from. Forty Open Montreal On resettling brilliantly. So far he's been excellent with the media he's been very forthcoming with information on on how he approaches says his team on On speaking to guys in the media that he trust and an alleviates one of these guys that knows the game inside out and he earned the respective on re say I. I'm excited because I thought this would be a disaster. And it may very well be fine because honorees such an ego and Joyce a poodle has such a big ego and when those eagles collide that may not be pretty but for now at least. That's wonderful from Montreal. Yeah absolutely well said on Montreal. Byways one of my favorite cities in the world is just full of great people. So we'll see what happens there. Listen normally We do questions at the very end but our good friend are good. Good good I know you know are very well. Good friend Kay Mari who also co hosted the show with me earlier centers a question and it's Emma's related so we might as well just added right here. She wanted to know your picks Kerr for molasses season beginning with You know who you think is going to be let. Let's talk about standout starts. Who who you think is going to really pay you know. We need to pay more attention to pay more attention to. That's a that's a good way of putting it because we could. We could sit here. We could stay about for me. I'm going to state the obvious. They're still killing going through it again because I think like Alexey will score by committee. I think Republican as we saw at the weekend is going to be much more of a threat. I kinda tie teach Rico and they're gonNA scoring groups. Teacher retail will still score. I believe twenty plus goals in the league this year. Call us about potential to go to another level all together and he scored. What was it Turkey? Four-gold in the regular season last year passages win. Gold is amazing. Yeah I think he'll win the golden comfortably without Joe smacky displaying the season now so in terms of standard stars. How about how one or two new guys to keep an eye on. I always think that's a good way of looking at it and one that caught my eye over the weekend. Gotti kindle Luis Gatty Kimba. He's got an absolutely brilliant goal for Sporting Kansas City. Who a horrible season last. Spic they go on career. Where they went three one got Kenda is at born in Ethiopia. He comes across the sporting city from Jerusalem. And he's a kind of a an intricate quick ball player who's who catches the eye and he scored a. Wurley bows pulled back to you. Know Rights take a shot on his left foot from that angle and he scored and I just think he's still on. That could catch the eye here as a shrimp Brennan pickup. Peter Vermes the other. One is Lucas Zeller an you mentioned him already with Columbus crew. And I'm going to go my pick for MS cope this year. I'M GONNA go with Columbus because I just think the way the way they've strengthened their team. With the coach they have now in with more experience for Caleb Porter incomes. He's really going to work with Caleb Porter because he demands so much respect demands. The Best I've heard he can be a tricky go to deal with but they go and they beat nyc AFC the favorites for the Eastern Conference. You would say in their first game. I think the way they do. It was impressive. But also because that'll orion pulling the strings he's your Igwe in replacement which is very difficult obviously but Donnington. Ibm midfielders Atlanta's. Best player argued the last year. And he's now back in Ohio where he wants to be and there are strong team from top to bottom. I firmly believe this is absolutely compete. I finished second authority in Eastern Conference. I won't say get further. They've got the experience to to win it all. I think you know what it's not a crazy thing to say because look at what happened. Last year's I'm Alaska. Nobody really predicted that was going to be the final and Columbus you said has all the tools now Lucas Salah. I am going to be my my my player to watch. I mean we've talked about him before and I completely agree. Listen this is somebody that came from Diga as an overload at teeegagers and really he was just a victim of an overload of talent. And now he's GonNa come to crew and he's going to deliver this kid can play. He's so fearless and You know you saw a little bit of it This weekend Kayla Puerta. We've interviewed him before and he's just he's a no nonsense guy who oh he wants to do is is just win but win in a way. That's kind of sort of not not a bully. But he wants to physical review and really just get in your face and and when you have that stadium behind you on those fans you know anything can happen absolutely. I'm with my question on them. Really quick is Josh Artists. Because you've got moctar patron so you've got lots of options in behind the whole center fielder league for years and years and years for me has been our tour alongside will trap. I felt that the Brazilian Mai troppo better player. And now you get on tour you've got Mensa still at the back. I think you've got the best fullbacks in the League in Awful Valenzuela on room is a goalkeeper now in the second season so I think they're complete if artists failed to score. Now you're relying a little bit more on phenomenal addy. You brought over from Cincinnati who Kayla PORTA again. Got A big tune out of hand. Got Him playing well when he had Portland so he. He's an interesting character as a whole Mandalay so if you can get something out of him might take is Columbus surprise many people this year they have a proper squad. Not just to start at eleven. But that's right absolutely all right moving on let's leave the continent and move to the Premier League Obviously there was so much action that the premier league in many ways Took a little time. Obviously the League Cup You know made some postponements as a matches but there was a big one. What I what furred fighting for. It's life in the Premier League Wofford defeated Liverpool three. Nothing and to be honest with you when you look at the tape. It wasn't even close what it was all over Liverpool Yorgen club talked about such an amateurish performance from his side Obviously you know. I think that any sane person will tell you that this is still going to Liverpool trophy that primarily trophy but it was a pretty underwhelming to say the least performance. But listen I the other thing that I tweeted was we cannot take away what Nigel Pearson did specifically this this weekend. I mean they were closing every single gap when they made Liverpool play. Narrow liberal hates play now. Trent Alexander Arnold and under Robertson couldn't really get gangrene or cross as much as they wanted. Muhammad Celeste struggled with space. The Same Assadi Amani for me. No was struggling. And what would just all over you and they just hit you on the counter and now they find themselves out of the relegation. Metal SA three nothing against Liverpool. What did you make of that? It was hard to fathom on watching the game at home and I listened to watch the analysis. Must Martino with a record low on NBC? And I thought they were spot on. It's so unbelievably rare to see a performance like this from the pool and it was talked about it was. You're up on the sideline he. He didn't look himself in the post game interview the way he was leaning against the wall. I thought that was an interesting observation from caller Martino and spot on as well. It's just a different demeanor from your cloth then on the field. When you have allison making fundamental mistakes versus Van Dyke looked off Asian lover and shocking those those performances you can ask if Saleh has a world if money is electric. It just didn't happen. I and you're right to point the tactics but I think Liverpool at of all the teams. I've ever seem to primarily. This Liverpool team has a way of getting different tactics. And if some plain out was you know what we're GonNa Keep Robertson and we're GONNA keep out extended Ronald as white as possible and they have the ability to play each other. If need be but we're going to find a way around this team for them to lose to watch for it it. It is a master show comparison. But it's also just a huge. It's a major failure on behalf of Liverpool has to has to be said it is to vicarage road. It'd be only played one shot on target in the entire game. That's a failure on behalf of the repeal and and if we just WANNA focus on not just about ninety minutes that's what we can say about us now let's focus on the rest of the season because Liverpool already of twenty. Six Lanes are some are having fun with Liverpool of at the invincible season. Guess what in three or four. When Arsenal won the league they finished. Twenty six wins. Liverpool are GonNa go far beyond that. They're gonNA have a much much better season than our data. No three or four but they need to regroup now. They've got an ethical clash against Chelsea at Bournemouth game in the primarily before Athletico Madrid com to. Anfield not is a huge huge game. Now I decided that will have their tails off that you know how to defend. It's it's a crucial time this season for Liverpool just to regroup and realized. We're a special group here. We don't get too down about one loss yet now. Well said on here the next few matches you mentioned Chelsea and the FA Cup which is on Tuesday then never pull host Bournemouth Athleti calms to Anfield March eleventh and then you have the mercy site Darby And then followed by Crystal Palace and Man City. So you know. There's still a lot of time by you. Correctly pointed out that this was just a an unidentifiable liberal plan against Wofford on the other side. Now you know you look at this relegation battle and I know I have to touch. Just we have to villa fans right now and to be honest with you. This is something that I've been telling a lot of people the whole time for a long time. It's not a battle amongst like four teams or even five teams calf. This is a ridiculous relegation battle right now and it says a lot about. I don't know the quality of the very bottom or the you know exceptionalism of the very top. I don't know what it is. But when you look at the bottom. So Eighteenth is born with with twenty seven points villa with twenty five with a game in hand and Norwich City with twenty one who also go to vital win but then after that offered is out of the bottom three West time in sixteenth they also have twenty seven points but listen Brighton and Newcastle. Newcastle hasn't scored a goal since January eighteenth. I believe and bright and hasn't won a game since December twenty eighth and they're still in it because of Newcastle has thirty two points brightness. Twenty eight so. This is a battle about who is going. Still plenty of points to begin. Yes there's only eleven matches left but that's still a lot of points specifically when it comes to this margin it's only a two point I'm sorry thirty two. There's only like five point differential between Newcastle and eighteen. And a lot can still happen. So Louise get off the fence. Here take away your heart on your pride and Aston Villa and give me a prediction. Who GETS relegated? I assume you're going to go with Norwich. Forty one or two teams down. I'm sorry to say fans. I think there's commendable what you guys are doing Especially with that win but I just think it's too much of a mountain to climb I think the way that I see it born with will also stay in the bottom three. And if I have to really take my heart out I am just be a neutral pundit I have to say L. is the third one I is nothing to do with the heart. I just think that Specifically key injuries throughout the seasons In John Mcginn etc have been been an issue but also just the tallest the toughness of schedule in which included a League Cup. Final might just be so much I mean still have to play at Leicester still has to play. Liverpool still has to play Chelsea at home another not doing great. They're still a top five team. You know arsenal away at West. I'm so there's a lot of tough games so I'm trying to say stay of domestic and say with my heart that will stay alive but I don't know I just think it seems to difficult. What about you? I think that will survive actually Lord Lord I do because I think there's something very special about villa right now Dean Smith and it may not seem that way. I've watched as many games possibly kind this year. I'm at times. I think how lucky of Aston Villa been not to take something away from this and I know it sounds because people are gonNA listen. Say Your bias but to have your manager on top of your captain as lifelong villa funds to the they're in this together this is a unified group like this. This group is not going anywhere and when it comes down to the final stretch the final tanks and seeing. If you're not together you'll be found out. I think this group into that and I think this guy for me. I'M GONNA Pick Norwich. I'M GONNA pick and I think Brighton like you rightly say Brighton on Twenty eight points. They look pretty right now. If you were to look at the standings there in fifteenth place but the only one point above relegation zone and as you say they haven't won since when since this is December twenty eight. Yeah so so so. They're trending in the wrong direction if they can't figure it out and bright and get right on on the Norwich and I hope that's the case for some I I I admire. What things Mrs Do? You know what I changed. My mind was staying up. Come on come on. I mean listen. Brian has wolves play Leicester City Man United Away Norwich which is still going to be a fight. Liberal still has to play the man city so I don't know it's it's just going to be very very difficult but one thing is for certain for anybody that's having this conversation and argument about the relegation battle. Which is you know for all these teams. It's not a battle between four teams or even five. There are seven and this in this in this race right now. They're trying to stay life all right so moving away from that. Let's talk about the League Cup. Final at Wembley on Sunday matches the city to Aston Villa. One Man City was leading for the majority of the first half to nothing goes from Sacramento and Rory and at two nothing Kev. I was like this is GonNa be five now Just I thought that Dean Smith's tactics of sitting too deep special in the first half was was a little worrying. Some I understood. I understand that when you play a team like Man City and especially at Wembley because it's such a wide pitch as somebody correctly stated to me on twitter. It's very difficult to press for ninety minutes but my issue was that for the first forty five. We weren't even doing any kind of selecting pressing we would just sitting just completely absorbing the pressure and I didn't like that and then in the fortieth minute Johnstone's falls down like he's Ice Skating and Anwar Al Ghazi picks up the Bull crosses the bullying for and Bhawani Mata Sama goal to make it to one and at half time. I'm thinking we can do this. What you think I was thinking. Get me to a TV. So I can watch property. That's right I know is of course from twelve twelve thirty so the game started at eleven thirty eastern time. Us So it was different back and forth. But I looked at the score. I caught the The RODRICO rotary puts it away. And you're thinking it's curtains good nice now. They respond someone against the run of play with some OSCO questions. Because they're it's so rare to find someone who heads the ball in such a clean and sweet lay who else stands out to you in world football or even previous the heads the ball cleanly a Samat does. He's just got this unbelievable connection and he's a brilliant header of the ball and he's tall like the way he connected without bald. There was no chance for Bravo. Yeah absolutely now. I don't share as one that I think to me. Like as a young s on watching that everytime evolves in the just cheer two bodies way onto and then he's he's ability to use his neck muscles. I onto to to perfect Arca header into the top corner was just simply sensational. I'm Samantha. There's something special about this guy. Isn't there absolutely. I mean he's the first Tanzanian to play in the Premier League. He has his whole country behind him. It's just a joy to have another African player in the League and with villa. Obviously we have marvelous. Mukamba's well from Zimbabwe but. Yeah he's just talent I remember. He scored a goal against Liverpool in the Champions League but it was cold outside but there was such a power to that editor. That like Allison did not see it coming and rightly as you said he such a Thailand but the thing I like about him is because you know he plays by himself a lot of the time you know we overload them. It failed and he works so hard and he did that again. City and the League Cup final and then the second half happened and Honestly Villa. Rydell city a lot of the time I mean. It took a very good safe and the post for cloud without to stop bjorn angles header from a corner and it ended two one obviously disappointed. But the thing that I liked lot was Dean Smith gathered the entire staff and team together in a huddle at the very end. And you could tell you knew what the message was. Used as passion uses fire for the remainder of the season. This is exactly what expect week in and week out because you really played your hearts out and they did eleven games Reston Villa. I Reckon Avila can pickle even in those eleven games you pick up four wins your to go because that would get you then to thirty seven points on. You'd figure that'd be a few draws in there as well You may see a team get relegated like West handed in the previous year with forty plus points. You may see that this year But you're absolutely right. I think I think this sort of a ruin. He can galvanize a team. And and you'd like to think it will do the charge and hopefully we can go again for Manchester City. Though you certainly saw some of their vulnerabilities late on in that game. Villa put on the press just looked to try and get that equaliser which was You know didn't look likely. Let's be honest when Rodriguez scored in the first half villa would even be in contention so it's GonNa be interesting to see how Manchester City build on this. I look ahead to the Champions League. Because they've got their work. Cut Out honestly remedied. Didn't perform well against city in the Champions League but you're going to see a different length of stay around for me. That are not better away from home. Sunday are at home so for people really Madrid already after two loss to burn avail. I say book locked. You're about to see a great game if the well let's finish with that classical We as you rightly said You know this is a row. Madrid can definitely wake up when it wants to but you know. They want to. Nothing against Barcelona Goals from vanishes junior and Mariana Diaz Spanish Dominican mighty as. It was great to see him. Score jared. Pk was in interviewing in the mix unto reporters right after the game and he basically said listen. This was the worse Madrid. I've ever played in the first half but then he added and said listen. It's it's about both teams to. We both have problems and that was my point. Obviously al classical is such a great spectacle. One of the biggest sporting events let alone soccer sporting events you know watched by millions around the world but this season has been really disappointing The December reverse fixture was zero zero and it was awful Just really not not a good game and yesterday. I really saw another imperfect disjointed scratchy as Jonathan Wilson. Calls it for us in sports illustrated. Kinda game where you know there was more about. The physicality is more like a boxing fight than anything to do more with talent and aesthetics. Now listen there's there's talent there obviously finished. Junior is incredible nineteen years old. It was definitely the best performance he is given full. Lanka's and you know that Eagle better. Their fatty there is talent. But I'm wondering calf and I would love your opinion that you know there is something that's maybe dying. Recently when it comes to classic on I don't know if it's because of the over reliance on an aging Lionel Messi Cristiano Ronaldo's exit of course and just the fact that both academies in recent years have not really you know developed. The Bush gets the in yesterday's the Chevys the Massey's right and the same thing can be said for for the other side. We've got great Holland and realm. Did obviously look at Vasquez and east But I'm wondering if the magic of a classic especially this year which is kind of a mayor of what's been going on an illegal to be honest is is is slowing down a little bit. I think it's very important to recognize golden harassed when they come around on classical has always been special but I go back to the last time before yesterday that Ram Madrid Barcelona in a classical. It was there on the sideline. It was my first classic. Oh it was April two thousand sixteen and Zinzi dime had recently taken over. I happen to be the seat. Closest is in India. That how crazy is that? I believe my look that I was I was. I was ruing kicking myself but it didn't speak Spanish because I was sitting next to my producer. Markham earned at the time. I was working with being sports and Donahue so animated online at times he was so composed but that classical for example. Listen listen to some of the names Sony going back four years ago not even for years ago. You had a schedule again. A little bit younger than they are today. MESSI Neymar on Suarez Front for for around Madrid. You had a fire in Cristiano Renaldo alongside Bam. Bend my so it was the MSN versus the BBC. Out Its peak. That's not there anymore. I A messy. It certainly is older mice. It'd be thirty three in June Cristiano. Kill to see them there at attendance yesterday. Watching Times have moved on a little bit. Barcelona have recruited in an awful way. The identity of the club has has has dwindled a little bit and disintegrated and a lot of that has to do with parts of Mayo you. You're not bringing through the talent that you we won't stay. And sometimes you just have to recognize that golden generation those players may not become through but they also maybe there that you know. You've gotTA give chances to which I'm glad Barcelona doing but to bring in to to to say for example spend the the loose and when when when they sold Neymar spend the money. The way they did. I thought was really poor. They rushed into decisions and they didn't get it rice and they did the same thing in years. Gone by as well and I just. I just feel Barcelona. I've been ruining a very poor way. Round Madrid have in many ways gone to the Barcelona way of bringing through players. But they're still splashing on guys. That just feel unnecessary. And they've certainly gone for the younger seven American player an awful lot more of lace and Rodrigue. Aw Venetia being that a feature heavily this year on. What's the name of the player. They signed recently ren artists. Yeah right yeah Reynard. Yeah another player for a lot of money. The identity of both teams influx. I think it's important to point that the quality is just not as good as it was. Maybe four or five years ago in saying that. I certainly wouldn't rule that either side for Champions League this. Oh absolutely which says a lot about Just the the flocks of of of the Champions League right. I mean you talk about the history of classical. I'll never forget two thousand five when Rao Madrid fans were pretty much forced to stand up and give a standing ovation to Ronaldinho after his performance when he scored two goals amulets score in the first one. I mean that was a game. Wade had David Beckham Raul Sedan. Rubino Ronaldo An and on the other side you have Renault Dino at Toei Young Messy Shabby Rafa Marquez Deco. I mean think about that. Think about those kinds of games and like you said now because of the business and behind the scenes. What's going on with both clubs to be honest? You Know Ron. Marie decided to you. Know two years ago to kind of rethink the GALACTICA contract and really. Just focus more on spanish-based players. And like you said I mean. As of recently last summer I thought it was such a mistake to bring Greece man. I'm sorry I think that that money could have been better spent on you know focusing on other places but you know I think that a lot of it also has to do with the fact that you know Kris Jenner analysis exit and we have to be realistic and face. The fact that the genius of Lionel Messi is not gonna be there forever and we need to on say already mourning his law. I know it's really sad and you know what I said every weekend. I know that like we say it. All the time to say don't take for granted but I feel like we need to say like five times a day. This is a person that's going to change that. Change the game and will change it again when he eventually leaves and we need to really realize that. So yeah I already bought. I might people think I'm a Barcelona find on twitter because I Barcelona our appointment viewing for me because of Lionel Messi and that's the power of the individual brand the blockbuster. Brian Lima messy. But it's just he's just pure genius if you're a football fan. How do you not watch star? I'm just marvel at the past able to see a three sixty vision and when he does go away and when he does leave Barcelona right. Now you would think are setting themselves up to be a little bit of shambles. The way they've been recruiting I. The identity of the club has as I mentioned I. I'm intrigued to see how it all plays out but I hope I would love to see lien on messy one day come to a major league. Soccer says I'd love to see him. Just move somewhere else. Give it a go and reports that he did buy a penthouse sweet in Miami. The reports the DISA- two months ago. The least I could see that penthouse old apartment in Miami. He would have to take Tiago. Matteo to kick a ball at my local park where I go every more kickball in Miami. I mean you having a laugh and I left Miami. I might just move back to the I was just going to say a messy comes to Miami. I'm moving to Miami. I don't I'm by the way my hair would destroy that park. It takes an hour. He's such a Dennis. The menace but listen. It's not unrealistic. I remember talking to Sarah here which gets last year. And he's like to him like. Mls is really intriguing. So they're talking about it. This is a conversation a lot with all these players. It's not completely unrealistic to ever suggest that Lionel Messi my come to molest I do think though that he might go to his beloved Argentina before that But you never never know well can listen. We're about to wrap up here but I would love to hear your thoughts on. Just you know what you're thinking for the remaining of the year we the European championships obviously in the summer. Another Copa America World Cup qualifiers Beginning this month actually. Is there anything that you looking forward to As we as we look ahead to twenty twenty yeah I mean certainly on the international front I think look look from Arlen if they could somehow make it to the euros. I think it's it's a distant hope at this point. They've got to win two games in qualifying to get there on the team. Right now is that this is a fairly poor standard. Let's be honest so we'll see what happens. I'd like to see the. Us really clicked into gear on their BERHALTER. And hopefully we see Gio arena to the team. They sick. And you you start to see somebody over guys click and bring hope to everybody that the US can actually start performing other much better level and start winning games on the club scene. The Champions League fascinates me more than ever before. Because I I I honestly don't know who's GonNa win it this year and my favorite as of right now. Because you know we're always we've always got that reecey bias and not in the moment feeling inspired. Munich. What has he flick has done. There has been next level phenomenon the fact that they misled or don't see over the weekend he plays as Eric fee and eighteen year olds. I I start he scores. They went five mil five or six. I think it was five now. Continue with the brace. What he's managed to do. Performance at the Chelsea has just been remarkable so good for him Davies and and everyone apart merrick and the Champions League I. I can't wait to see how it plays out so excited but I'm so excited to have this game that we have to talk about for a living wage. We're very lookie. I don't think that for granted for one second Yeah just been a lot of fun talking to you today. Well I think we're and they're just like we're so lucky to enjoy this beautiful gamers Kevin Egan. You can catch him. Comet CALLING GAMES WITH FOX. Sports South for united and also. Cnn world. Sports have thanks so much my friend. Thanks for having me but thanks everybody. I will see you next week.

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LADS#125 - Champions League Recap BABY

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LADS#125 - Champions League Recap BABY

"Ooh. No, no. No, no. Thing of hey, I'm competit- and Martin Frazier. And we are loud America's discussing soccer better known as lands. That's so much better than my last year. All right. Guys. Welcome in happy Friday, February fifteenth twenty nineteen hope you all had a lovely Valentine's Day with your booth thing. Unless you were, you know, sad lonely fucks like me and Martin. But you know, if you were I hope you watched a lot of Champions League soccer because that is what we will be covering in this episode, but Martin before begin to Manchester United before we get into Tottenham. I'm all fucking jacked up. What are you drinking? I'm drinking the beer that has quickly become the staple of my existence. I hated it for a fucking weilded. And I've talked about this on the pod before drinking giggling again like it's my fucking job. I fell out I fell out of love we got divorced back in like July of this past year. And we saw other people than after a good six month break, we realize we do love each other. So me jingling. We back together were close as thieves on love this fucking beer all over again. I'm giving it a eight, and I'm so sorry that I hurt you never drank you for six months evening. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. The people of Pottsville, Pennsylvania where yielding his brute forgives you Martin. I drove through Pottsville. It's shithole. Yeah. No, it's total. She had all, but but they make great beer. So they do I am drinking Lago nita's. Indian pale ale we've had on the show more. But I've never. Drink it in this Tallboy, which is way better than that. Hem tales hempseed beard, whatever I drink last time, which I could barely drink. It was absolutely disgusting. This is a fine. If you're into that shit. I get this an eight point five the shit is strong. Hell trying to look on the Ken where where are you from friend where where were you? Where were you created in the mountains are home? Where's your get in your home? It is at home pets Petaluma, California. And Chicago, Illinois has two homes. Oh, it's been divorced. Okay. So it's child of divorce. No wonder it's turned out. So good way. That's not to stick shit. Wait, wait. We are pretty good way. Did we did not like UNITA's leg? Innate does is what we strive to be. But I do fuck with that beer. I know we've drank many a time. I had no idea came in and Tallboy that is great news. Yeah. So if you need a good IPA Loggins IP, it's pretty popular are the you can find it most places, so definitely would recommend. But hey, Valentine's Day would not be complete before. Again are Champions League talk before I discuss an all time tweet by Yannick ba- Lassie from Valentine's Day twenty twelve mardi like giggling all right serious face. Jannik blassie tweeted on February fourteenth twenty twelve Valentine's Day dinner, seventy five pounds drinks, fifty pounds taxi twenty pounds hotel two hundred pounds the look on her face when she tells you she's on her period. Priceless. Yeah. Nick, you are quality. You are a gem, please. I always get so excited when this tweet surfaces every Valentine's Day, which was so funny. Someone on our Facebook where I posted this said like, oh, what's a little blood? That's going to hurt. Oh, yeah. We've all been there. Come on guys. A little a little blood. Never heard anybody. Right. No. I think there's a couple of phrases that I'm not going to repeat on air that have to do with that exact scenario. Exactly. But man, this is a tweet Kev that I know is coming every single Valentine's Day, and it's basically adult Christmas. Unlike Ooh, I get to see this again, because I don't, you know, look at it during the year, it's a smash special occasion tweet and Yannick Balasko. You're an absolute gem. I fucking love this. I love old footballers tweets like Wayne Rooney back in twenty twelve back when a famous people were first getting online and getting on the Twitter verse. And no one's really figuring it out. Yeah. Never threatened to fight himself on Twitter. He tweeted something. And then re tweeted it with the caption saying fuck you off flight, you may end that was that to this day is my favorite Twitter interaction ever. Thank you, Wayne Rooney. Yeah. I love when people go. Oh through like Delhi ALI'S Twitter Twitter from four from when he was fourteen or like, Harry Kane. It's back before Twitter is Twitter. What it is today? It's just so funny seeing what old footballers were saying. It's just like I wonder if Jimmy Vardi had like someone needs to do deep dive someone get back to us do deep dive on Jamie Varghese Twitter because didn't he have isn't isn't that where you said like chats shit get banked is that like an old tweet by him. Is that where that came from? I thought it was something he said regularly during regularly. Yes when he's on cocaine. Yes. But I thought it was something he said in like league one game or some shit. But if it is an old tweet fuck in power of the tweeter what your invention by Mark Zuckerberg, God damnit well done well done. All right, guys. Here's a little poetry. I tweeted out today roses are red violets are blue who's going to win the Champions League. I have no fucking clue. So with that with my Shakespearean work done Martin. Let's open this shit up. Let's open up the pit with Manchester. United versus PS G at Old Trafford two nil goals by can combine pay. I can never say his name, right and MIM bay. So it's just hard because their names are. So weirdly, similar Lana. Bays in another Lauda laze in there. Yeah. I'm just like the it's it's like I just got done doing interview with Mark Waugh Rak from the he's on the from the spot soccer podcast. Go follow him. They're going to be our Saturday special. But he mentioned that I always mess up marisha vision block block, and I can never pronounce that. Right. And I'm you know, what I'm just running with it. But anyway, Martin what were your thoughts about this game at Old Trafford de Maria revenge game weirdly Damer, I didn't know de Maria had you know, some vengeance. Some old hate against them. But before we get into that. What were your thoughts about the game or the big takeaways, obviously it was a very gritty game. The first half a lot of, you know, shouts for combat pay to have gotten a red card might pronounce. How do you say name Kim Bemba? Okay. I was saying. Yeah. You were right on. But okay. I mean, first and foremost, my thoughts on the game are not entirely too negative high thing a lot of people in this day and age especially on the Twitter verse I'm sticking with calling tweeter like that better. Especially on the tweet averse, and in in the newsroom's, everyone has to have that smack real-time fucking judgment and analysis, and it feels like everybody jumps to decisions and word vomits that shit out without actually fucking taking this game into context. Taking the entire players into context. What has happened under soap char into context? And instead just looking at this game that Assad. Let's talk about the game real quick first half. Exactly as Kev said it was a was a gritty game. I thought PS JI was the more dominant force without very much question. But Manchester United were able to hold their own defensively and provide. Attacks going forward in that first half. I think the critical moment or moments in the game happen during the substitution injuries or the injuries that led to the substitution. Both Marsh Allen Jesse Lynn guard were injured and replaced in the second half in the beginning of the second half. And that in my opinion, change the entire outlook and outcome of the game. All of a sudden, you did not have Jesse lindgaard Marchelle tracking bag as they do diligently. You add Lukaku and Lexi Sanchez who took their place Lukaku. I don't fault him for not tracking back. He's a true striker. He's not supposed to do that Alexi Sanchez, whoever that fucking worthless. Goddamn, no pages and book piece of shit. Wet sandwich. Chilean is an absolute useless force on the field and did not do anything. He was supposed to do. And I thought that he has an individual left Manche has not had very vulnerable down the left flank. With this given up a lot of possessions, given up and it was really weird that like before the beginning of the second half that soak shar, I guess he wanted to get a body on the field because I think was it lingered subbed off for him. But it was like Sanchez was on. Yeah. And hurt in the ref was just like, dude. Like, I'm about to blow the whistle. But I don't know guy do own thing. Just get your guy out there. But going, yeah. And I think after those double substitution and the drop in quality of play really, fucking expose Manchester United and through Joe's division of de Maria and variety and the pace in fucking claim making of Imbaba upfront. They were truly able to tear that manages not a defense apart. The first coal came from Kim bay who arguably should've been shown a red just seconds earlier due to his tackle on believe. It was rash. Furred at the edge of the box. How he got rid of out of that? I have no fucking. Idea. Yeah. Anyway, anywhere else that would have been a yellow card. I don't mean to interrupt, but I was very like what is the referee doing a lot of people back. We'll back to like, oh, we'll actually young should be given a second yellow for that. We shouldn't hit way I agree with you. That was a shoulder to shoulder of day Maria. I mean, it was just unfortunate. He went and flew into the stands. But I mean, I, you know, if there was a card given to them it would have been very harsh one. But that that seemed like an obvious yellowcard because he was interfering with rash run and was very forceful. So I was agreeing with you, don't worry. I was just trying to give some context come on. Come on. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I got defensive all of a sudden it was like it's your team. Just like, hey, hey, I don't trust that. But yeah, it was an obvious in my opinion fouled by combat. I mean, every anytime you throw a shoulder or an elbow into the attackers forehead. That's usually a foul, especially when it's just outside the eighteen bucks, regardless the most. Inconsistent ref into world disregarded that allowed play to continue two minutes later PS g gets a corner. And Kim bay is left. Unmarked by Matt hitch and heads the ball home into the goal for a PS g lead. And then I think it was ten minutes later Imbaba scores on an unbelievable run and an unbelievable pass by de Maria basically fucking tying up the game right there. Quick fucking quick. Fucking reactions to to the game PS PSG outclass Manchester United both individually and tactically Thomas to deserves a ton of credit for what he has Klopp celebration. It's a German thing, man. They just get real excited. It's that little fucking arm shaped like it reminds me of GM. It's anyway. But yeah, I mean PS g definitely deserved winner. But two things I wanna talk about out side of the game real quick versus foremost is just a complete sloppiness of of the ref, and and that's not making me making an excuse for Manchester. That's just that sounds like you're making getting it's just an observation of this ref and we'll get to a couple of other games in a sec. But the referees have just been absolute dog shit. And even in the NBA Joe Joe is calling him out. He said the referees fucking suck. So I get that judge. Oh. A Real Madrid fan who true. Fs the refs overturned and a goal. Are you seeing something I'm yeah? Right. I'm putting on the other. Yeah. Is there? But referee. I mean, you gotta be fucking consistent. If you're gonna call nine yellow cards at least be consistent with them. Paul Papa was sent off in the ninetieth minute. For a bullshit challenge on Danny Alvarez who made the most of it red card pug will not go and play in the return leg impairs. So that fucking sucks referee. Get your head out of your ass. Do your actual job. But Secondly, let's talk about the fucking overreact is the fucking Twitter warriors, the people who are all of a sudden. And I saw you fucking put this on our Graham today Vakhin Podger Tina wins. They're just like putting should be in charge soldier wins. It should be soaked. Jordan, George soaked are loses. Everything is bullshit. Jordan. Do anything. Listen, you fucking wack jobs. Okay. Relax brand Taylor. One just Asia brash. Oh, h okay. It's going to be okay. Listen soak jar in eleven games before this PS g game. He won ten of them, drew one. He goes up against g who is elite yet. We talked shit about them playing in the farmer's league. Yeah. We talked about them let let's let's just clarify. They play farmers. Like, yes, they aren't hold armers. We call it a pharma sleep because they don't play anybody. 'cause they're all farmers. Everyone's like, oh, it's a pharmacy. Well, they're not like we never not they're fucking businessman, their oil executives their farmers. They got a seek or as our. I don't know. Yeah. They probably have a mixture of both. They gotta chic czar Ashiq. So she a cheek cheeky art, and she keys, but in PSG is elite. They're fucking Joe flacco, they're the fucking Denver Broncos in twenty nineteen season manages nodded. Yes, they beat Tottenham Chelsea those were fucking quality fucking winds. Well, mentioned arsenal with the fuck. Sorry him arsenal. And chelsea. Yeah. Right. Quality wins. Quality top six wins. However, there is a different. This is an entirely different game. This is in entirely different opponent and do overreact. And be like soldier out. Manches noted has made no progress bring Tino in completely disregards everything that's all char has done. And it's frankly an insult to him and the progress that the boys and the club has made in such short time. So I just to fucking you say to all the all the haters and all the fucking wack jobs out there that are already calling for soldiers head take a breath. Breathe. It's one game realize that there's actual context to this game. And you don't have to make a snap decision. And Leslie, Kev. I don't know what it is. Or when this started but arsenal fans are loving to take the piss out of Manchester nut at all of a sudden post Pius g game. What's that about? What do you mean? I just wha-wha-what like from Twitter like. Yeah. Like all everybody on. I think because you guys have been doing so well, and you've probably LAPD us in the Premier League your appoint above us in fourth place. They're just trying because our team is sucks so bad and we'll get to their Europa league briefly defeat today against bate Jesus Christ. But I mean, I guess arsenal fans are trying to get their little victory in as an arsenal fan. I just when I posted that what's it called tweet about Pocchettino? It was just like I've seen the Twitter verse. And I wasn't agreeing with it. I just wanted to open up discussion because we are loud Americans discussing soccer, obviously. But I have seen where people are now. Like, oh, we'll Paci knows perfect for the job. Look what he's doing with these players. What would you do at Manchester United, but I dunno arsenal fans trying to take a piss, but they should also as Tom Cruise says in tropic thunder. How about you take a step back in fuck your own face? So that's that's my words. Wisdom to my fellow arsenal. But I just want to do a couple of the highlights. I notice from the game one MIM Babe's really fast like really fast. I think he's the fastest guy alive. I think him and you same bolt if they went head to head. I don't know did I realize that Imbaba was that fast. Like the kid is what eighteen years old and nineteen years old now, and I knew all about his skill as fucking presence in front of the goal. His vision has got him foot skills everything. Somehow, I overlooked that he's goddamn speed freak and road runner from Bugs Bunny because holy hell. He started. What five yards back from by an Lindelof and maybe thirty yards later. He was in front of both of them. It was impressively fast. It was it was like jaw-dropping Martin know. He's twenty now member he's not a wonder kid anymore. He's twenty so member he's not he's not a teenager anymore. We have to remember. You wonder you wonder young adult? Yeah. We can't we can't be hyping them up anymore. He's he's grown. Also. I mean credit I also have to point out few players PSE who are phenomenal karate McCoy. Kino's that midfield was absolutely just dominated motto and Sanchez were liabilities. The entire time on the field you deaf. Like, I know you have a soft spot for mozza, and I love Motta as a person and as a player, but I definitely think you need to get a replacement for him. Sanchez has been a bust. I mean, he was just such a liability of these horrible giveaways, and then my third takeaway, which I'll let you respond to all this don't worry Damer de Maria was fantastic to assist, but I don't understand all this hate from both sides like Manchester United n de Maria like why they don't like each other. I just just on a nowhere. This literally came out of nowhere where he's pretending the chug a beer Manchester United fans, which was a small. I'm just saying not all of them like, please. Please don't don't hate me. Some of them were chanting at him. And he said like fuck you bitch like back to them, which I was like what like this makes no sense whatsoever. Is not like, you know, assess fabric gas. On Chelsea scoring gets arsenal. It's not a rob van Percy's scoring against I hate using arsenal. References there should I don't understand this animosity between these two sides are those were probably poor examples. But you know, what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm in I'm gonna work backwards. So I'm gonna talk de Maria. I. I I am confused by this low de Maria feud as a United fan, first and foremost, it is a small sect of Manchester United fan. So I don't think it it does reflect the entire fan base. But I don't understand it from de Maria perspective. We bought him at a then record fee paid him record wages provide the club actually bought his sister, a house in Manchester. So that she could live near him they provided funds to to send one of his family members to the hospital and paid all their treatment. And then assisted emphasis facilitated the trade to Sigler, which is what he originally wanted leaving Real Madrid. So I don't really understand where de Marie is hate is coming from. He actually came out in a post game presser yesterday. And or not yesterday. I guess I guess it would have been. Yesterday now two days ago. Yeah. Two days ago fucking days of hard. No time. It's a it's a tricky subject, but he came out in a presser, and he said the only thing he hated about manches knotted was the manager. Remember he played for Louis van going? I get that. So I I don't understand why d- Maria provoked the fans fucking taunted the fans, I understand why he said fuck you bitch to the chanting fans. I totally get that. But he was provoking them the entire game. And and I don't get why it was a revenge match the dude. Played for Manchester noted for what maybe seventy five percent of a season. So I don't think he is any any claim to have a a place in Manchester United fans hearts so that confused the piss outta me. But he did play brilliantly. I mean, the cyst was pinpoint is runs. Excellent to assist. Yeah. Yeah. And your your second topic about Ma. Gotta and Lexi kind of already talked about Alexi. I mean, I think the man's liability soldier himself said I can't tell you anything about Alexi when he plays. He needs to find himself. And I mean Salk jar has improved. So many other players in this United squad. It's it baffles me, I think I think adamant humble are holding Alexi back in. He has performed blood ritual. Sacrifice to get good again like asthma, John. But I want Mata is a different case. I think he should stay in the squad. Just because of his maturity and calming presence that being said, I don't think he should start any games. I think he should merge into the role that carrot played towards the end of his tenure at Manchester United. And then Finally, I completely agree with you regarding Martinez Martinez is ton of under undersung story. The man is essential defender by trade. And he is excel. Ailing as a holding midfielder under Thomas teachers. So that's incredible to see from the young Argentinian. Yeah. Argentine chirp we'll go with that. Yeah. Hidden variety were both phenomenal. And it's you know, PS g being depleted their two front men Cavani anymore. Definitely. The odds were pointing more towards Manchester United with this depleted squads so credit to Thomas to will and his men for coming up at away as well. But you know, we'll see what the second leg brings. We've you know, PS cheese. Never blown a big lead before. Right. Martin never know. I'm still got hope in my heart a little bit of hope, but I still got hope what about the I don't think it's done to you know, I mean eighteen can happen. But I think pug getting a red card hurt you guys tremendously because all fence has been garnered just threw him it's been flowing through him. So I think that's a major loss of I'm putting money down picking PS right now, mainly because if you had Paul I would say it's fifty fifty maybe if Major's United could pull out a miracle away in Paris. But right now, I think it's heavily PSU be just because the lack of pub so this this is kind of a silver lining this thought just popped into my head. So don't take it as truth. But this is just my thought I thought gee was so so excellent against men just nodded attack. Four one big reason they were able to completely shut down Popa pug once he got on the ball in that United midfield. Old. He was closed in upon by a variety or Martinez almost immediately, which completely limited and destroyed his creative influence on the game. Now, Saul char is forced to play without Pogue. So that means the tactics that sulked your has been enforcing playing ever since his tenure began their out the window. He has no central midfielder to organize the temple of the tax. So this manches nodded squad and his man's has nodded team that we're gonna see 'em Paris in March fit on March fifth. This is going to be a completely completely different man has knotted squad then any fan or viewer of the sport has seen under soaked tour because they have yet to play yet to plan without Paul Paupa. So that is my only silver lining. Thomas teacher doesn't really know what to expect in a man's has nodded squad sans. Popa I will say manches knotted does have the Scottish pure. Hello, Scott, MC Tomei. So not all hope is lost. If the your banking on Scott, Mattamy, hey to be your savior than I don't know. What the great Kevin? No. It's not looking great. Okay. Let's move on to Real Madrid vs. I xe. I don't have too much say gritty win by Real Madrid goal disallowed which was contentious. Because there's always the, you know, conspiracy theorists and people say in Real Madrid cheats, and that, you know, the Champions League is, you know, pretty much run by Peres and stuff like that. I looked at the highlight. I think it was the correct call. I think VR got it. Right. People are just complaining because it is Real Madrid. They are the biggest club in the world. You know? So they think everything just has to go their way brilliant goals by Marcus censio and cream Benza Benza again Marin, we mentioned this before Real Madrid are clicking or firing all are firing on all cylinder. God it at the right time. So could could we see a four peat? Hm? That'd be fucking remarkable. If we did I in hers them for most. I don't think you can mention Benz goal without mentioning the Nishi as junior the man is God damn name, more rain corn. It the run that he had to supply Benza with the assist was jaw-dropping fucking gut wrenching goddamn dick rising fucking beautiful by that eighteen year old Brazilian I came in from the left. He schooled two defenders before cutting completely across the box. Drawings three defenders to him and letting Benz modules chill right at the edge of the eighteen where he laid off in Ben's got a rocket packs, a axes young keeper. So I I think that you're right. When you say the squad is peaking at the exact right time and when Rao Madrid peaks, they peak hord, I especially the fact that they have initiates just jumping. Right in the game in immediately up to speed both in the Champions League. And in law Lita is a huge plus for them. I thought it was a risk to buy him for so much money for someone so young, but it's already paying dividends. He looks like the real thing. And you know, what bail is doing well as as as well as he can he might be suspended for twelve games in laud Ligo. But that's beside the point. But. Irrelevant relevant. That's we're talking Champions League. We don't care about legal right now. Fuck law legal fuck law. Kidding? I like Liga. So it's okay. But I think we got we got to argue this VAR decision because I disagree with the decision. I disagree with the VA or decision. I think I think it was a subjective coal by the referee. And I don't don't think. Calls that are subjective should be reviewed. So that includes handballs goalie interference, which I thought was the big thing with this VAR. I realized that. Yeah, he was all sides. But at that point in my mind, again, if you are basically tied in off sides and just her hand is all sides. You're on the fuck side. You're good. You're all right. So my biggest thing while looking at this was the goalie interference. And I thought that was a subjective. Call I don't like that it went to VA or I do not agree with the result of VAR came up with however as much as I am a conspiracy. Theorist I do not think that that. Roger it had anything to do with this whole little offsides goal. Yeah. I I get what you're saying. And this is always going to be the debate with the A R when it's like if it goes either way, I'm on the stand that if in go either way give it to the offensive side because not only does it, you know, it should benefit the attackers benefits the fans more scoring. I think is better. Call me. Crazy. I think more scoring is better for the sport. So yeah, I in Courtois again, just what are what do you do in lead? What do you? I just I I don't know what happened to Courtois or whatever voodoo he's been put under while going back to Spain. But like Jesus do get your shit together. Like, what do you like I feel like I need to have a sit down him. Like, do you? Do you need the talk like what's going on? I think I really do Diego. Simione put some black magic on him for betraying Athletico Madrid outgoing Real Madrid. Oh, real quick. Dig sim signed an extension till twenty twenty one twenty two with co. So he ain't even that's his home in that bad cave. It's wolf Wall Street, I'm not fucking leaving not going anywhere. So 'cause every year he's always in the manager fuck in what's it called win meal? Windmill or merry go round. Like who? Oh diego. Simione could go somewhere. They do is a lifelong let it go. He's going to win that Champions League. He is going to win that champions like one day. So. Man, dude after back to back to back to back but consecutive, I don't feel so bad got Sergio Romo says the bastard, man. Thank you, Charlie Charlie Kelly. But all right. Anymore? Any got anything else Vigia junior? I do want to say is a fee now he is looking like a wonder kid. He could be the next messy Rinaldo. You see? That's how we start the hype Martin. That's how we start the hype. We talked about that last phone the fucking lessons are going right back in our pod. But yeah, I agree. Vinicius seems to be the real fucking deal and one last thing. Sergio almost allegedly getting a yellow getting booked in this match. So he can't miss the quarterfinals on now. He's facing a two two game ban. Uefa fuck off like let the man get a yellow card if he wants who cares? If it's a purposeful yellow like I do not understand why that's a role. Do you know how many purposeful yellows Rio got John Terry got goddamn? Ashley Cole goddamn, Wayne Rooney. Got. I mean there. Part of the game playing aggressive fucking trying to just rattle the opposition. That's part of the game. How fucking dare you say, oh, we're going to take you out for two games because you tried to get a yellow card. So you wanna get suspended in the quarterfinals like, that's that's tactics. Man that Sergio almost thinking one step ahead. Like if he knows he's a God aggressive player. He knows he's probably going to get a red at some point. He knows he's going to feel the piss out of some people in enjoy it who the fuck cares. If he purposely fouls someone to get out of being suspended that smart in my book. Fuck you. You you bunch of soft Hansie's yet, dude? I tweeted earlier about like rumors that day Maria might get suspended for the second leg because of taunting the fans, even though the info Cupet like fuck you, man. Do it's part of the sport. Yeah. I I would like to hear I like to get the audio because you know, the cameras are all on the players. I'd like to see what the cameras were. Yeah. Right. Let's see what the fans were saying today Maria. But of course, because they're not important the cameras aren't on them. So I would love to see what they were saying today Maria. So if you Asia. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Suspend any of them what haven't problems, and you're going to be talking to my boy, Joey two hands. Okay. Joey to two hands. You better watch out for Joey two hands and two shoes. He better watch fucking back. 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I am fucked with Roma just because of Francesco Totti for the longest time. And they have a phenomenal group of youngsters. They got search underplaying for them. They got I'm going to butcher this because he has a very talion last name is like Zeno cows Zia now. Zia? Now, it starts Z and he's young and he's really fucking good. And looking too good looking. He is a good looking guy. Big bay big bay Lert. And you know, what I I enjoy watching this Roma teen the Roman team last year that beat out Barcelona into quarters of fun AS Roma's team to watch very defensive-minded counterattack minded, and I just enjoy watching them. So I did not watch this game solely because Mench. Not. It was on. And nobody cares about Porto versus Roma when United PS you're playing. I'm just putting that out there except Porto FRANZ like our friends. Zach fry which sto boggles my mind. Yeah. Our friend from college from the Virginia Military institute, which the news. Has been in the news for black face. If you haven't heard about the Virginia governor who is an alumnus of our college our institute apologies, you know in league as we were just talking about LA Liga. It's black faces pretty Powell popular. If you ask into on grease men or the family of India STA, I brought this up with my interview of Mark. And like he brought the point that any esta was just like, yeah. Like, I don't I don't like any Esther responded saying like, I don't get what the big deal was. I didn't realize it was a thing. It's like dude come on. Did there's there's a fucking country. That's that's very vague. I've realized this I'm going to try and narrow down there's a country in Europe, I believe or Asia. And it's one of those weird ones. I think it Scandinavian. Sure ain't get Scandinavian. But they have a tradition where once a year there's like a huge parade to celebrate some I don't know if it's a fairy tale or old wives tale or something like that. But there's like a parade of all black faces like everyone in the town paints their face black and God damn just down the street. And if it's a Scandinavian country, do you know, how white those people are like that the me like way what painting on paper? That's one weird to stop and three what the fuck white people should not fucking do that. I think you have to have a lot of Mela melanin melatonin. Melanie, you the science Malania Trump, Melania Trump you have to Malania Trump to do. Black face. I think that's that's the conclusion we got to. Okay. I'm glad I'm glad it's all full circle. All right, guys. Let's talk about the game. Y'all wanna talk about Tottenham versus Barisha Dorfman. We just got done talking about doormen in our last podcast Martin. Yeah. And we did about Dortmund blowing big games. It sounds like we were kind of right? When we said doorman is an all that it's hyped up to be Dorman plays in a league with the one other great team end, some farmers. Yeah. Oh, also farmers. Actually, I is auto workers German auto workers is that better. Well, I did find this tweet where someone said like Huddersfield could probably win the Bundesliga, which I thought was hilarious. But I tagged our good friend. Critics myth who is our boondocks Liga's expert here at lives, and he's he actually like I thought he'd get pissed at me. He said, you know, honestly huntersville could be a mid table team in the boondocks league. And I was like what that's him. No, very big crazy. Love critic. We're going to be doing a boondocks league a special podcast with him soon. But I was I was I was honestly just like taking the piss with him just like fucking with him. And he knew critic. He's straight shooter. Also, big NBA, an inter guy. And he actually has a which we're going to get to when we get the fan questions has some questions about e Cardi in the recent news going on with him and Inter Milan. But I digress. Let's move back to Tottenham versus Dortmund three nil victory. Sawn absolutely phenomenal. Not only son but Jahn for Togan Martin. We actually were talking on the phone because again, all we do is just talk soccer when we talk to each other. Yohn for Tongan was absolutely phenomenal. As a left wing back in even Toby outer wall tweeted him saying like eight like, I guess you should switch your position like what the hell? So amazing volley. Amazing gritty performance Paci. No got his tactics. A hundred percent, right. What what did you make the game? Martin. First and foremost, I think people are recognizing the true scale of sun sawn with Harry Canaan alley in the on the field, you kind of focus on them because they're the they're the bells of the ball. They're the prom, queens and kings. But with sun on the field, you just see his individual brilliance and his ability to take over and dominate games. I think a lot more people should be considering on as one of the players of the year in this campaign. He was absolutely fucking brilliant against Berge Dortmund, completely cutting apart that defense, I think there was like four five runs that he made if the ball to him was a little bit better. He would have been one on one with that goalkeeper in and it's incredible to see sons progression over the past couple of years with poach and SAM's army actually tweeted out that son has definitely become a true striker. Because he bitched at Ericsson for taking his Shaw instead of passing two sons. So he could take a shot. So congrats sunny on becoming true striker like Rinaldo who complains when people don't pass the ball fucking love akin. Secondly, yawn ver- Tongan goddamn Belgian waffle right there, the crammed. They lock Krim fucked any rose fuck what's his name? Kyle walker. Peter's put yawn Vertongen at leftback play Davidson Sanchez and Toby Alder wild Awad wall to wall to wall to wall in the middle. And you're going to have a goddamn squad back there. I could not believe watching that giant Belgium stream up the left flank of Tottenham like the man was cutting in. He went on a couple of livery beautiful balls into the bow. Yeah. Specifically, the sewn volley. But God damn like what what like I more early new like who who fucking knew. I didn't. I sure didn't. It was just like I knew he was good like defensively. But God damn like, I didn't know he was a two way player. Like this guy's a switch hitter. Jesus. The guy's fucking bow Sanders. Basically, you can play baseball and football. Except this time he can be an attacker and defender, I I was completely blown away Comrie calmer. There it is. Except he committed to football going real sport has ten based real sport. Okay. Believe it love it. Learn it love it. But yeah, dude, I thought Tottenham performance was peak Tottenham excellent fucking play throughout the game complete tactical. Switch rue by potch at halftime that led them to dominate the game. And I I thought it was interesting because there was flashes of brilliance by Bruce Dortmund, but they never truly looked like they were anywhere close to Tottenham level. So that, you know, kind of points to the question is Bruce for real is the boonies league for real because people know Byron is is the real deal, but they're in my opinion will always be lingering questions about Bruce Dorfman who is a serial runner up in the race. That is the boondocks Lita. I just wanna point out this stat too. Euro quick Marin in it's provided by Bleacher report, I will give credit in the eleven games that sewn has played against breezy door. Man, he has nine goals and seven wins. Are you wanting man up holy hill to just just if sawn played in the boondocks, I'm pretty sure he would make Brita Dorman. His like he would be daddy over present. Or did play in the Bundesliga. I think that's why he's had eleven games against Persia. I think he came over from. I think it was shocker or often Heim or balk one of those may be know. In fact, check may because I'm yeah. On my ass out. Yeah. I mean, like I only recognized players who play in the Premier League, obviously. But what I'm saying? What what I'm saying is. So on is unbelievable which also fair's fair shot at me that is a lot of games for Tottenham for to have played door pins. I should've realize like, wow. Why do you taught him dorm and play each other so often, you know? You know? That's that's on me guys. I'll take that one. I will have two games every year. Kev. They play each other twice a year, just friendly. So son can padded stans. He's basically Russell Westbrook goddamn cheater. Wow. I was just like I should have checked myself before I write myself my fucking bad. But unbelievable without came without alley. I just I just can't get over how tactically sound and how doormen just folded Dorman are just let's talk about Dortmund. You mean Sancho played? All right. But he was you know, a lot of the players are pretty much invisible. And it makes me sad. Because I want Christian pulisic, you know, to win something before he comes to Chelsea and Dortmund, you are not helping him. You're not helping my fellow pennsylvanian. What are you doing? So. I thought God this is fucking two pods and ro I'm about to rely one our young American stars cheeses, stop Martin too bad. It's too late. I thought Pulis it was disappointing in this game. He. Yeah. He made a couple really poor runs. He did not look the usual sprint self that. He was so I don't think Pulis helping himself. I thought dormant was limited. Because Marco Roy's who believe is injured did not play. So that limited doormen going forward. But still do to Dortmund's form. I've thought this would have been unlock Loza game. But it seems like the Spurs have that right mindset mandis their two best players Cain analogy. So the second leg is going to be interesting for Tottenham to make sure that they do not do what they usually do when they have a lead and bottle it. So this return leg will be Imbruglia. It will be in Dortmund the yellow wall will be out in Faulk enforce. So I I think it's the same fucking sich as the United PS g game. I think there is still a chance for Dortmund comeback and stunned Tottenham der on there. Home turf there playing brilliantly at home this year. So I think there's still a chance, but after the first leg, I think it really shows the strength of this Tottenham team, and this this is kind of weird fucking question. I do not think Tottenham has any chance to win the Premier League any zero zip. None. But I think they do have a chance to win the Champions League not along but a baby bit a little don't don't say that too loudly. Tottenham fans, you know, you might they're going to be like to shut the fuck up. Don't say that. That's what's wrong with Tottenham fans had some confidence y'all fucking make it. It's like arsenal fans right now. Don't don't don't if you put in hope than the letdowns going to be way harsher. So don't don't do that. You don't do that to yourself like Sam barstool Samra SAM's army. He's like do. Don't don't say that to me. I'm I'm going to get pissed off. So. But I do I think Tottenham has a punchers chance. Yeah. Took agree. That's where I'm at a better chance to win the Champions League than the primitive for sure know, if we're gonna do odds, I would pick Champions League over Premier League. All right. I'm gonna we're gonna do fan questions, but it has to be addressed arsenal. Lost to bait today in the Europe league. Also Chelsea beat someone to one that doesn't matter. What does matter is arsenal continues to make me very depressed and question my sanity and my phantom. So I didn't even get a chance to watch the match. So I'm going to be completely honest with you guys. I just watched the highlights and I'm just. Mar in what throws that your wake have because. The match either. I just fucking texted you. I'm so sorry about midway through the match method still since his transfer to north London or to London. Sorry ours. No has played three hundred thirteen games out of those three hundred thirteen games. Odsal has missed a hundred of them. Now, I'm not making a Hutu scapegoat. I'm not making him a scapegoat. But there comes a point where you pull the plug on grandma. She had a great life. She tried her best. But she wasn't good enough. And you pull that plug is it time to three. It's dark. It's dark, and I have done that. It's really harsh on your grandmother. Second. I I don't know, man. It's there's more problems. Just our defense. I I actually tweeted at Zahed the midget who's like the arsenal fan up or stool, and he replied, I said like what's the biggest problem with arsenal? And he said cranky true. I was like spot the lie, but. Honestly, there's a multitude of problems. And definitely the defense is a major one. But like what the fuck I thought the Europa league was your thing. Like what the fuck you? You've you've wanted a bunch of flakes Avia this arsenal. Do the your going to wipe that as in the return leg, and they are the. Yugoslavia is that where they're from? I know. Fucking switzerland. They're the best team in whatever fucking country that her from and they had not played in tuna half months. So I cannot believe you lost this game. This is mind boggling. Yeah. Me too. So again arsenal likes to make Kevin very depressed. I love it. I am currently, you know, thinking about throwing myself down a deep well and pull that plug. Kevin. It's it's fine. We're gonna do fan questions renew faint questions after this depressing break, this is the overtime podcast network. All right. We're back from this depressing break to do fan questions. I'm scrolling through to our Twitter. I swear we have fan questions because we love you. I'm gonna tell you all the fans questions more in fill in time while I'm scrolling Twitter because I wasn't prepared because I'm a piece of shit I'm gonna leave the newspaper. Okay. Okay. That's enough. All right. Our first fan question comes from the oh God. I'm second weird feet. Where are the questions? All right. First question comes from critics myth. We mentioned earlier in the pod. He said when will Mario Accardi grow up? A weight critic has the answer to that. One already. All is. Well, criticize sipping that t-. Nice. One critic myth essentially Cardi is been stripped of the captain's badges that correct? And apparently seems like there's been a numerous problems of the Cardi. My biggest takeaway is just come to the Premier League mate. I would love to see we can week out because you are phenomenal talent. Yes. So quick cliff notes. Fucking explanation of what went down this past week is the Cardi would stripped of his captaincy, and it was given to some your hand on which was interest goalkeeper. And then he refused to travel with Inter Milan for. Or the Europa game refused to play. And then he tweeted out a Mark Twain, quote, which when a little something along these lines on I'm going to budge of this quote, but you'll get the idea it's better to keep your mouth closed rather than open your mouth and appear stupid. And that was a response to all the rumors news and fucking Instagram pose about mar Morrow Cardi. And this isn't the first time, according has had some behavioral problems and God damn inter-. And this certainly won't be the last. But I think that it's pretty fucking positive that he will not be at inter next year. And so it Cardi I guess it's coming to the prime or Real Madrid. Either way I'd rather see him not at enter 'cause I don't really watch Syria. Just just just being honest. Just just being honest. I don't really watch that much Syria assize like the big matches. So next question comes from the sucker. Swap at soccer. Swap. It's this fan Porto were part of predictions for the euro police winter I'm going with arsenal. Ooh. May should have this before the arsenal. Matt me, I will not pick arsenal. I would probably go with either Chelsea or Napoli at this point the most confident right now, I'm gome with severe just because this is their bread 'em butter. Then yetter is a God damn hero for that team. And I just like that severe team they beat us last year in the champion's league. They won. I think to champion or to Europa leagues in row under United either built for that competition. I'm gonna go with severe. But you know, I'm probably wrong and chose. You're just gonna run their fucking God damned trained through everybody. And when that competition because they should not be in that competition. Yeah. It's and sorry will keep his job because he'll win and go to the champions like at that's a writing this. Script for sorry. Keeping his job right now. That's essentially what Marino did. So. We're seeing history repeat itself. Tons of lead circle. Time is a flat circle shout that your detective season three. All right next question. Corey Andres equi under twenty seven says should a manager changed his tactics to fit the player. He has or should the players adapt to what the manager is having them. Do that is a great question. Well, I would carry us it this is this is kind of a lazy answer. But I think it's a little give and take on both sides. I think you should play to the advantages of the player. Such as like if you have Nagoya Kante, you should use him as a defensive midfielder not bring up sorry. But I mean, you have to change things. I think in Tokyo Conti changed things like is back three, and you know, law the players were hesitant. But you won the league. And sometimes you just have to go with the manager. Because that's what he's getting paid to do in. The manager is trying to do his best to set you up to succeed. So I would probably go more with the manager than I would with the players. But when you have like a superstar super superstar, and they're telling you like this is where I best plot. I would listen to your players. Yeah. I- sensually agree with everything you said, I was going to bring about the superstar argument to I think there are only a couple players in this world that can dictate how a team plays. And those superstars are Deborrah or not the name, our Rinaldo messy and grease into a certain extent. And how. Hazard and those players. I think the managers should absolutely style. The tactics around those superstars, but everybody else, I think there has to be little give little take. Nobody compromise finding the best position that not only works for you. But the good of the team. And I think that's that's where the challenge really fucking laws for managers to get the most out of every single player individually, but make sure the most out of every player's best for the team. Exactly. I mean, the manager is getting paid to get the most out of his players, and they're going to hopefully set you up to succeed and get your stats. I know every players concerned about their stats, even if they don't say they are. So next question comes from Andrew Walters at a Walter. He says if Ericsson is gone for Spurs at the end of his contract next year who are viable, replace placements and Tottenham purchase range. Don't purchase of we'll get to that. He says Madison at LeicesteR has been rumored. But curiously here if you guys saying we could bring anyone in from abroad. Tottenham purchase history in the past year. At least hasn't been that. Great. And again, we brought this up in the last pod that Eriksson Matata fan. I be very very much worried about losing him this coming summer transfer window or the contracts on even matter in fucking soccer, people just break them all the time. Like, I'm like, oh signed a five-year deal. It's like and they're all next year. That's an all sports though. I mean, the fucking basketball that it's you have a five year deal. But then you leave halfway through the contract goes to other team that confused the piss out of me. But I think if Dan Levy actually decides to spend some money that they should target Rabbo. I think that they should target HAMAs Rodriguez. I think they should target a variety. I think they should target. What's his name fucking Iskoe? I think there's a lot of options out there for Tottenham to replace Erickson. But first and foremost, I think the importance from Tottenham perspective should be keeping Ericsson because I think Ericsson is a better player than all those other players that I just mentioned, and I think he's already fits perfectly and the Tottenham squad. So if I'm Dan Levy, if I'm Pocchettino of Tottenham fans worldwide, I'm begging Eric's to Stein. Yeah. It's. You you really wanna see that who from whoville stay around because he is fucking quality. All right. The last question. Fuck Martin we fucked up. What we focus because Brock B R X C K from our last show member. He asked us to do our six beers for the premiere fuck we fucked up brought last last night do God. Oh fuck. So essentially Brock in our last show said, hey, can you pretty much put a beer to each Premier League team in? What would they be? And he said, you'll better have your shit ready. We don't can we get an extension teacher, please. We will do it. Okay. Next tuesday. I swear to Christ. We're going to open up with Brock. We're gonna say. Yeah, you're here with these Premier League team if we don't well that's very own brand of us. If we don't so I'm just saying to do it at some point. We'll try our fucking best not to win Wednesday morning when we're going to record Tuesday night. But Wednesday morning bet your fat ass Brock. I don't know. How thick you are. But it's going to be there. Trust me. Yeah. Yeah. Probably I'd give it a good seventy five percent chance. And if not we'll do it. There's day for sure not if not will do the following week. All right, guys. Thank you so much for hanging out with us. Make sure to follow us on Twitter lads podcasts. Lot Amerks Cussing soccer. Just Google us. We have all the links everywhere on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. Thank you to the overtime media network for giving us a chance, and you know, helping us make money off this shit. That's wild that we actually do that. And please check out our Saturday special podcasts. Mark Waugh Rak who's apart from the spot with his brother, Nick Warrick. It's it's a brand new show. Mark's been on our show before he graduated from via maya's. He's way more talented way smarter way funnier and he gives different perspective about the game and Martin. He's also Manu fan. So I didn't know that. Yes. And he's also ginger like me is. Yeah. Alpha ginge, he's ginge. I why am beta ginge for being honest. So you're blonde. Oh, no. You're shaving ginge. The I I'm no longer blonde. Yeah. Martin shave my head. If you haven't seen the video, it's a great video guys. Thank you so much. We hope you have a great weekend. And bye bye. Have you Valentine's Day? You.

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Will El Clsico Deliver Fireworks?

ESPN FC

52:06 min | 5 d ago

Will El Clsico Deliver Fireworks?

"Welcome into the ESPN FC studios in today's edition of the show on the bachelor. So much to get to. We're going to be joined in just a little bit by SID low and Gab coty pull preview. Saturday's classical between Real Madrid and Barcelona. But we start in the Premier Li where the table looks like this that. But the one match on Friday leads three nothing winners away to Aston Villa Villa, missing out on a chance to go top of the table leads all the way up to third on the strength of a Patrick Bamford hat trick in the second half or more reaction we walk them in Franklin. And Steve Nicol Frank I'll start with you bill clearly the favorites coming into this one like we said chance to go top of the table at home leads are not just fun to watch. They're pretty good. Aren't they? Definitely. Fantastic. Mean a the way they play the commitment of the players option to the to the world of football leads is a great team. Even villa with the being the best defense in the. Premier League. Cope with the situation where and you saw that even the nineties minutes where. leads got the ball and and contact we five or six players, and it's absolutely to see that total football the commitment against the players working very hard altogether physically being on the top of the of the top now. Even, if I enjoyed the game, even if I enjoy everything of the game and all the the movement of leads, even at Seville at the beginning of the game, I know what? Mister BS is capable of. GonNa, love him. He's going to be an attraction. He's going to be absolutely fantastic to sleep fans but after wait I have to wait because I've seen that we pick Marseille. I've seen six fantastic month and seeks horrible month from Marseille. So I want to be optimistic I want always the best to lead I. Wonder Hope that what I saw with Marseille it's not gonNA is not GonNa Happen with leads but. I've known. The pastor of Mr Yassir is always been like that. So I want to wait and see before. Giving, giving it statement from from still best. But what I saw today is absolutely when I want to see in the Premier League, two teams working hard to to try to win a game and given Andrey. Capacity really enjoyed the game. Stevie wonder what you make of the leads performance today. But also the point that frank mentions like is it sustainable over the course of a Premier League season? The Way Be Elsa has this team play. Well I would agree we frank. Look great going forward the movement is absolutely fantastic and and then only one three today and an Obama for God. You kind of wonder if if they had a couple more complex finishes up from home, any goals, this team could score. Because they probably may have had ten ended up three I mean, that's how good they were going forward all the movement and all about the overlap and runs and. Basically everybody running one hundred Mel's enough for nine minutes. I would say that is sustainable. Not over the course of a season. You know basically what they'll have to do is make sure the off points before they run a gas. Because, it doesn't loot late, the only plan the other way. Actually. Like you know bail says about old fashioned, you know he basically. Pushes team on the field and assess the opposition right. This is how we played. You know this is how we play, but you're going to have to come and be. Because, we're going to try and do what we do best regardless of what you do I. Love the should unfortunately the way they do play. As as opposed DRIAN physically as it's possible to be and and I'm not so sure they lost a whole she's and so as I said. Can Get forty five points before they blow a gasket. Then then the Greater Watch, what is very interesting to see that and we have to give all the crease. With almost the same players leads finished like thirteenth in the championship before a arrived last year, he came and put them up to the premier. We see how the play of believes in him name sorry and how much you can bring to the team but that's the big problem is going to use the players as much as you can. and. The southern point the players won't won't want follow because they going to be almost dead. Because of the work that that is asking and the commitment is asking, so the square is going to be problems coming up. Stevie the other side of this, the Aston Villa missing out on a huge opportunity they suffered their first defeat of the season. I, draw points at the season. In the Premier League and really disappointing I thought after the first Gulf from Leeds like there was no response from bill you thought leads needed to second goal more than bill and their first. Well Unfortunately Villa schooled seven against a team Code Liverpool Cutler weeks ago laptop everybody's looking for every time you step on the field and it's just impossible for them to do that and the truth is. Aston Villa who probably going to finish up mid-table. And the performance against Liverpool was one of those days where every one of the players was absolutely out the best. You know again, going forward, only walk into a hot trick. School Rhen. Jack Greeley absolutely on top of your game. So that was one of those games today you saw an awesome side who when the Best. Will lose games and that's basically what it was the Ron. And they played and it's GonNa. Happen to them. Not Going to happen to them as much as it did last year you know they had a great escape last year but I think the same as the Are really good. So I think we should try and put Liverpool. Scored seven against Liverpool aside and really look at this team for water as and it's a team that will not get relegate as a team that will not be fighting for four talk. Sex is a team that will be fine to stay in the middle of the pack and we'll. We'll be there on mirror. Frank Aston Villa gets off to the perfect start. People are asking are they for real? Are they legit? Did we get some of our answer? Today is negative. We shouldn't be too negative about about some villa as Stevie said GonNa, Finish midtable but I'm not disappointed with their performance. The did it very well and I think they work hard and Grecia, the very good game and we saw some very positive actions about the. Again. They did what they had to do, and they should consistency on what the capable of doing. But it's true that after the first goal didn't react and defensively on the the second and the third gold I mean, he's like everybody was really. Absent from the defense especially, the third the third goal when defenders indeed a move to close Bamford possibility. So We shouldn't. See, US. Finishing off in the first place because that would be that would be being you know. Not. Realistic. But finishing in the top ten, it's it's possible. They have a good defense they work out very good. Goalkeeper talented players like magazine like Greenwich and some others. And the can if they work all over in the top ten. Is the first defense against a team? Really put you through lots of Tinus at the after an hour because they run everywhere and he's the worst time to play against this I'm not sure love playing in March next March again, sleeps will be the same scenario a soul. We shouldn't be too harsh on on I think today I. It's just me but. Anybody else getting a little sick of watching Jack Greeley's fallen over in the field all the time. You know he should yell out for the dive. When he called. What about Bob Ford Minks. See I'm talking in general you know Judd Greeley, she's a fantastic football player but I'm just getting a little casino fallen over and and. Almost called the golden season so far Iran from just say these on penalty there with the ball. Shrugged off a couple of Johnson and that was the biggest surprise because thaw he's he's GonNa he's going to talk here and he's going to go down but it didn't stay on his feet and almost scored the absolute wonder goal. So I hope he's bondage. Walden. These and says look. and. Unless you really get down, can you stay on your feet and shores the ability late you did today with what could have been an absolute wonder goal. So I, don't know whether. It's becoming old hat and the deck. All right. Let's turn our attention to. Say Manchester United, and Chelsea at old. Trafford. See how come to you. First on this for managerial decision making perspective for all even source jar it's gotta be tempting when you great result mid week in Paris as the underdogs to just roll out that eleven again, he can't do it totally because Anthony Marcial suspended for the weekend but if he were to do that, that would mean, no papa, no maguire would it be the right call? Yes. Odin one on the other and the one that absolutely is a guess is no POGBA. I. I'm sorry you know. Regardless of what me and Fred. have done previously the factors that tend to do a job and they were absolutely fantastic and we're standing. Defensively and that's what Manchester United are going to have to be against Chelsea standard defensively. So you can't tell road in my opinion. And say you not played a one of these not playing because Paul was back in because then if I'm GonNa plan I'm thinking hold on a second you know I I understand what Pogba can bring when he's out best but he's been doing nothing I commend and a job and all of a sudden. So the coach if I'm only I plane POGBA. Absolutely plan the players that got job done against pot assange Amman however. Told Zone be one as a completely different ballgame. Hottie Hoti been playing games. We keep him on for the same reasons as I just gave you vote the lake semi told name Fred but that was his Fox game and over ten months. and. I can assure you through experience your folks game. You you can run all day long and people will question. I'd say, how can you do this? We haven't played for ten months as cold adrenaline. Takes you through the game. But an old wasn't pro. I can assure you. You're second game back after the Long lay-off. You're half dead and so for that reason Maguire and Lindelof stop. Frank what would you do with Paul Pogba? Would you start them against Chelsea and if not, what does that say about a player that we often at least when he's coming back from international duty with France referred to as world class as. Well I think you really have to do come what? Players have done. You know for the past the past two games, and if you consider that the done the job in the play where I'm the feel, I've done it properly, why do you want to? Deport even a world class player because these so-called war class Bayer I mean you have to find the right balance because you have to deal with the squad? This quad is many players that you have to make sure that they're going to feel involved that he wanNA fight fall for the colors of the club and that he tried to see only the right colors of it. They're not dot color of it meaning you play when the deal the previous I injured in otherwise you're going to be on the bench if. It was was on the bench against Bari. And McNamee and Fred Play Well, why do you WanNa put a bug on the field? Is Not, the insurance of everything's going to be better with him because. It would have been proven lately and and and it's way I. Think it shouldn't be playing. You go to question McNamee, all and. Fred on their on the. Only. Have as UNIM- on them. Sorry. So that's the main problem. So you have to make sure that the players are pleased with their performances and have the trust of the of the coach Franken the past you said that you wouldn't bench maguire even after everything he's been through because it would kill him but you must have been impressed with what he did against PSG especially given the ten month layoff in his age. I. Think Be Great. I think if he doesn't play against Jesse's because he maybe a receive a knock hall he's not he's not fully fit but otherwise you have to keep on putting him in the last two games he did what he had to do. I don't think Maguire is a fantastic player I don't think you should have been. Votes eighty something million but because they have him because the captain and because he seems to have. The confidence back. In his fit issued play. It did well, it should carry on. Other side of this thing frank is Frank Lampard this seems like a I know it's early in the season and early in his career but this seems like a big moment a big match in kind of how we evaluate Frank Lampard is that there I can be fair because it's a big game and you you expect from Chelsea to to results against against Manchester. United even if it's an old trafford but the thing is Is Maybe we're too impatient with Chelsea. But maybe the time for for Jesse to show a little bit of something that were all expecting. It's hard because players have been injured playing have been booked late. It's still a young team. So do we have to be more time to Franklin part? I've been very criticized toward? The way they played. So therefore little bit about the coach so I received lots of. Things from the fans say frank you have to be more patient. Yeah. But you have to be more patient. Okay. But we all want result because we all know that Chelsea is a great team but the to find the chemistry asap that's the thing and when you play against Manchester United you have to have a result when you have I don't know. When you expect something in your in your in your season and you want to finish in the first full space is the time to build up something and these bb the game for that. Steve Far as Lampard's concerned. Let's Talk Tactics Manchester United so good on the break. So Dangerous Chelsea obviously struggles on the break defensively it would seem you're gonNA invite Manchester United to do the things that they do best. If you continue to play the way that Chelsea plays what should lampert. Josh moments or stick to the way Chelsea play. I. Don't thinks going to make any adjustment. It's all going to the way the play. the group of he has the better going forward so If you decide to set then you're. Kinda, hamstring and yourself. I don't see frank changes whatsoever. As a case of. A case of them hoping now on the day, they can defend well because yes, that's how I was going to be even though Manchester, united our home. And and try and break. So, I think we're I think we all know what can again we're going to see. About. WHO's putting the ball in the net and who stumped going in the other one because there's no question there's going to be CIANCI's goals in this game I don't actually see a winner and if you're GonNa ask me I think I think there's GonNa draw written all over it but it's going to be like a two or something because there's no way. These two teams can can stop goal bulbs going the the net. But. These two teams can can. An attack. So I can see CIANCI's concede goals by. The End. Frank. WE'VE GOT Steve. PICKETT's so hard to choose because Easter teams are so inconsistent. What do you think's GonNa Happen Saturday. Agree we stevie. Somebody's GONNA. Happen you know in contact from Manchester United I don't think like Stevie said that frank is going to change the way he sees food of Chelsea is going to try something. So offensively Very accurate and then from barely can get something and hopefully police each z. h. adverse maybe months going to bring something to. So we know that they have tools offensively, I'm. Having some question Mugabe defensive aspect of of the Chelsea tactic and and and Manchester United also can can make some mistakes defensively. So yeah, I see you draw I. Don't see a very attractive game to watch. Because I don't think that everybody's going to risk too many things especially from Manchester United. So I. See draw two. Guys great stuff as always, and here's a look at the rest of the premier league schedule Saturday us and begins West Ham city Liverpool hosting. Sheffield United, League leaders Everton visit. Southampton Sunday. You Got Arsenal Leicester City on Sunday as well, and then spurs away to Burnley one of two matches on Monday. The biggest club of match in the world. So says the. President Round Madrid. Barcelona. Classical Saturday at the camp. Now, as you can see right there up failed to scorn either of last year's two installments from what we welcome in seed low and Gab Marcatti said let's start on the Madrid side of this rivalry around Madrid like Barcelona coming in off a league loss last weekend but also coming in off that Champions League defeat shocked what does the state entering out classic mother these Mo- not just the institution but the fan base you that are there in Madrid Put simply states concern. They haven't played well in these two games I think you could make a case for saying the first half against. This was as bad. Forty five minutes. We've seen from Madrid in two, three four maybe more years until they had the first off, get shut down which was worse. To to sum up one of the headlines in the Madrid price on on Thursday morning was. Worse. By the day, I think sums up the. Play. Of course we we've seen this so many times on this show performances like this, but we've seen so many times before you get to the class and it changes things and said today the classic. Game that's perfect for change of image for a for a change of direction for for the team. But it's certainly true that Madrid starts season has been pulled on this last week has been really very bad indeed speaking of change is there any chance and all this that the results Saturday could affect it on's continuity because some of those are some of those whispers are really starting to circulate this week. What happens? All the time it's the coaches are always on a couple of Babar's also away from the pressure building baron. year ago that rounded went away to Istanbul in the Champions League and genuinely this isn't just press. had. They beaten in particular being beaten badly Saddam might have been out of a job by the end of the season. He won the league. This is a guy who won three champions leagues in aerobics. One La Liga last season has a huge amount of if you're not built up credits to to protect himself from these kind of things the nature of Rama Jade. Is the immediate results of what what defined everything and there's no doubt he's under pressure. There's no doubt that he's an institution where there are elements of the of the board the very highest level of the club done believe in coaches that don't always believe in in in continuity of those coaches and they've results a bad they will have to change him. That's it has sufficient states and sufficient importance to ride out a COUPLA Brazil. So of course, they play in Germany next week champions they played Bosnian this weekend I think if they would win. One or by those games would definitely survive. I, think even if they lose those games. So long as they know absolutely destroyed in either of them, then I think you're survived but you're absolutely right the pressure is without doubt on your need to see the conduct stories coming from certain journalists with certain connections at the highest level of Roma Jade to tell you the at the very least at the moment there is. A sense within the club, there is someone to blame USA. Coach Gab is the pressure justified as points out there others to blame. You talked a lot about it on the Gavin Gills podcast when you point the finger and talk about Real Madrid a deep down the ladder at the players pointed up the ladder at figures like Florentino Bettas who built this team in the way they have or are you focused on? I think right now I, think to some degree you have to be focused on on on the Dan I'm that doesn't mean that. There should be you should feel pressure or that socking eum is the right choice but all along when when you know row Madrid weren't scoring macho whatever I was accused of making excuses for his Dan, by by saying that well, you know he's missing Hauser it he's missing he's missing the players he's finding the right mix. He showed an ability and chain systems to to to try and change it but ultimately, I wasn't worried because of the performances. Now, these last two games, the performances have been shockingly bad as just said, and most of all I, it looked to me like the players on the pitch we're unprepared for the game see the weren't I don't WanNa. Go out and make a big deal out of body language I. Hate it when people do to the players look disinterested. But in this case, I'll make an exception because that was the case I saw those against God, and of course, in Champions League mid week we saw bit of a reaction I think it's less of an issue with was leaving out Tony Crows and then Ben's Because you've got a classical coming up, I don't think you blame the manager for that. But part of the reason you are highly rated manager like Dan is that you can at least change the attitude change the mental preparedness of the players as they go on the pitch against Barcelona. I expect to see that from Dean's Dan if he doesn't do that while I think then it becomes legitimate I think to ask questions. Said let's take a look at what could be a probable eleven Madrid Saturday against Barcelona and I think one question that has to be asked and is probably the answer to most questions whilst your Ramos's back. So while the other three in that back may raised a lot of questions as got mentioned there's GonNa be a lot of changes from the starting eleven anyway that we saw against shocked especially Upfront Brahmos back is it as simple to say is with him back in the lineup with him back that captain's armband realm dribs troubles or at least the troubles of the last match are going to be fixed. Think. It's similar to say grandma's changes things. The browsers results without him demonstrate that the statistics without him with him a wildly different. But I, also think that there is a tendency inspiring wherever I'm also cools is enormously popular all sorts of reasons the immense majority of them reasons that absolutely right you know this is a Spanish captain. This is a World Cup. This is a guy who kept in Romania to win the championship this guy. Has A force of personality. WHO's very, very popular among the media. I think there is sometimes an element of the debate around facile. How are they? I think sometimes focus too much purely on him, but there's absolutely no valets lead qualities to change things the way that he defense changes things around you on the record based out but I think it's simple as that because of course, that would be to suggest the grandma's turns up. Defend World we're seeing bridget defendant cassivi nickel for saying this we've seen defend badly we've rambled with well over the years. By I, think you're right it. That's very important I. think he changes the mindset and seeing my thing there there is possibly an absence of of leaders in side about ramble sutton since the departure Cristiano Renaldo again I'm a bit like gap with this. I can sometimes go down to easier Russo two of the body language two, zero, zero easy routes. Off You know West West the leader, but there's no doubt that rebels makes a big difference but he's not the only element to explaining problems said, let's shift our focus than to, Barcelona, what are the big questions that Ronald Communist facing as he tries to make his choices for his starting eleven on Saturday and why is the answer to this question? Always antwon agreement. It in a way I'm quite happy that the answer is one of the ulcers and just messy because it cost. One of one of Balsa is one of the reasons why Boston be Britain is. and. One of the reasons why there's been problems at time that also years is also Leo Messy because they developed a culture where everyone depends on messy not necessarily just in terms of deciding games winning games been since away they played in some of the way that everybody looks. They want to give him the ball time, and that's something that is trying to break at the same time is trying to embrace messy because of course, everyone knows that you wanted to leave in the summer. They know there's a possibility they want to leave next Saturday's attempt to try and persuade into stay by funny enough waste persuade MRI that this is a place to be is not through everything according to the pixels this team to compete competing means not playing to him. Then the Nazi he's happy with that in terms of the selection issues with Bostana messy will I love to play on the right in the middle there's a downside left-back Jordi Alba if. He's fit tomorrow morning we'll play if not play left-back, which I think is problematic not because he's bad because he tends to come inside I think we'll see answered fatty would mess up front. The other one may well be an agreement but who knows trine calpine enough mid week to suggest the Kumon Whitewall tone is a natural at least give them wit go out onto the top Shawn Robinson always be turning inside I`Ma say and you know this is my analysis rather than something that's been talked by California for me the big problem with Boston. One of the problems is this fall to three one is ready to fall to three and then four of a place. On. It feels like there isn't a clear structure for that line of three plus one of the top of the page and I think sometimes means that there's quite a big gap between the midfield with deep midfield. Sued the filters in the defense and the rest of the team. Guy We opened a segment talking about round Madrid. The State of things that club what are the state of things at Barcelona on the eve of classical and do you see them as big favorites on Saturday? No they're not big favorites but. They're not good I. mean remember up until eight days ago the basket case. Club gear was more Barcelona then row Madrid and I don't think those issues have been resolved because they went out and beat. US With all due respect. In the Champions Eight, this is a team that lost last weekend get lost against a good team in in but they still lost, they gave away stupid penalty Messi had a quiet game grease. Mun fluffed chances all those issues. You know that were there before having gone away. This is still a test of Ronald Kumons ability to lay out the team. I with say, it is sort of a four to jumble of front and I think the tough call for him is you know do I bring people who can provide with but of course when he's done that when he's pointing brought in Bela who I don't need to see again for a while now. You know you run into other problems So it's it's a tough. It's a tough call. It's tough to get the balance. People love the whole fluid formation fluid front line great players find each other. Yeah. They find each other until they play against the team that solid defensively and and I would expect Madrid to try to be solid defensively shown that they can do that late in the season last year and and so I think that will be a real real test So for me if you WANNA favorite, maybe Barcelona frankly are slight favorites right now but for me no more than that. Okay said, Gab says Barcelona aren't good. Are Either of these two teams good. Well I mean. That's the question is being by. Building. The fact that they're going into the classical bibles loss loss came by funding fell to school. By the way it was the first time, the suit teams both lost going into a Glasgow twenty years the first they'd both lost in the same round of League Games not scored in over twenty years as well. But beyond that, there is a broad question which is. What exactly is the state to two teams in spite my Berryman, the Romans were knocked out of the. Champions. League. At the first hurdle for the second year in a row, bustle conceded against by meaning having a 'cause conceded for against against Liverpool, the year before that nine of entirely convinced even when they've been winning at the salt this as novice, very different stages because our job is, is to that, Ronald? Reagan at a very familiar team boss owners, Ronald Koeman at team that's doing in construction. So perhaps we give them time but there is genuine concern is by the maybe these two teams whisper. It's not that good. Maybe this is a classic Oh that we're not that excited about that said, we've been here before and then you tend to get a good classical. We're no one expects it to be good. Just to give you one little piece of data, which perhaps underlines this and tells you why it comes from last year not just this last the first PLASCO, these teams drew nil nil. Draw Nil in full seven classic owes the game that we hide mercilessly every year and every year lives up the building. Now, this year, I think for a one of the very rare times of the last decade silk is not being hyped. I think the absence of fans that by the way I think it feels like less of an event that it has been in the recent past right off the back of that sid prediction time who's going to win the game and we'll. Start. Reason Wilson I think welcome in his doing with Greece and he's been very very blunt with him. I think he's challenging saying, okay. You want the opportunity he goes you take it because. Place well has over agreement doesn't play welcome in than has if you like the freedom say. You had your opportunities. You have plenty of them. Now move on with something else I think he will stop in prediction the guy. The risk of being accountable I always on attempts to go for a one drill, I do I. Do agree with gathered I, Think Boston a broadly favorites, sudden overwhelming favorites. Neither of these two teams completely convinces me at the moment. So let's go for a one one draw. A Gab prediction and opinion from you who's going to win the game and then do you agree with what we mentioned at the very beginning of the segment what have you ever said this is the biggest club football match in the world. Is it true? We're living an unusual time with a giant asteroid. People don't know if they're coming or going there so much. So much uncertainty. So I think that if you want to put the Gambler on the game for that reason, Short Gopher but beyond that, yeah, US is right. This is always the single biggest. Game in the world. For me. And especially. So in the last twenty years where the protagonist that is hot I. Don't I don't argue with us there with on a prediction basis. I. Are Seen broads flight favorites. I was going to sit on on on the bench like said, go for two to draw maybe but you know what? I'm GonNa Lean Raw Madrid. I think this is where they need to get a reaction. And I'm going to drink the KOOL aid and say Rao Madrid to win two one. All right. There you go. Thank you very much. Gentlemen. We'll see how those predictions turn out on tomorrow's show Dan Thomas's back as we review all things at classic. Marcus Rashford has been campaigning lobbying the UK government to children in low income families throughout the pandemic part of that effort, he's twenty, six million dollars for a food distribution charity on Wednesday then lawmakers voted down a plan to feed low income children throughout the holidays Marcus Rashford stepped up, you can check out his social media channels where he's got cafes and restaurants up and down England ready to serve these kids for free for more perspective on this, we welcome in sit low and Gab Marcatti da saw you on twitter I. Think you tweeted something to the extent Marcus Rashford? This is amazing. You got a few more than one hundred, forty characters here you care to expand. Its extraordinary. We you know we've seen fullest support worthy causes many times I think we we've seen that some of these elements before but not quite like this because what Russia has done I think is show the it's not just about believing inappropriate is not even necessarily just about supporting projects. It's about being prepared to have the energy the practical application of that energy to really it for and also to have the nerve to take people on and I think this is this is where we see a slight difference between this and some other charts lacks sportsman do because sometimes, of course, a chart something yeah. This is why we're we're going to get behind the Russians have the nerve to his head. Up there and to be shots at and to take people on and. Dry something that can be seen by some people remarkable that this sounds as negative and to have the nerve courage of his convictions, the energy, the determination to say, okay, we're GONNA force his fruit. He gets an MBA which for those of us who don't know is is essentially a twice annual award given to citizens and I think in part because it's politically driven and to say, here's your reward night kind of you. Who Down now I'm going to by this I'm GONNA. Push this I'm going to make this happen and he is making it happen he's not just saying let's do this. Let's do this and I'm going to go and do this I'm going to government it's I think that it's just Brilliant. At? It really really is it really is because it's beyond just appointed Kohl's it savoy cools when it's difficult as well and forcing for yourself and. They're all some people occasionally who say why should stick to sport this is going to. Detract from the white you'll playing. I think he was quite good in the Champions League in Midweek Yeah. Is Mentions. It is both amazing. It's also impressive. You look at he's just twenty two years old and he does it. In, a week where he gets the game winner against PSG. I'd I look I mean I think I Sit said I think what's remarkable about Rashford here is that? When you play for a very big club like he does a lot of times you know you'll have a lot of fan shore. Then you'll have arrivals who who might not might not like you for reasons but I think shirts seems to to really cut across that. This whole initiative is extremely genuine. I mean, just for those who don't know it comes from the fact that in state schools here in England like in other parts of the world. A bunch of kids of lower income kids are entitled to free meals obviously during the pandemic, they weren't going to school during lockdown right? They weren't going to school. So, Rashford said, well, we still need to get these kids fed because. because. For a lot of them, you know these were the only proper meals that they were getting at. Russia's been through this. He was one of the beneficiaries of it when he was in school and it wasn't that long ago and the fact that you know. I think what makes us so genuine and something that he was the beneficiary of he's so jangling. He's not just cutting a big check. He's devoting his time to this and I think that's why it resonates resonates are more than you know people cutting above a six or seven figure check, which is equivalent of your I. You know writing a check for twenty bucks. For a lot of these people donating their time making a personal like this, doing it with the right tone Daddy's what. What really cuts across lines and and this is why it's such a remarkable story. Yeah. Truly remarkable for more folks checkout Marcus referenced twitter feed. You can also see where exactly in England those free meals are available acid. Thanks so much for your perspective for plenty more from Gad. Checkout, Gavin Jewels podcast record twice a week available over on the website. Go Right. That is all the time we've got for today's ESPN NFC but fund isn't done yet Frank Steve, Nicol with me for today. Extra time. Everybody. Welcome into this Friday edition of ESPN SEC extra time Steve Nicol frankly buffed with me as always. We also have your questions to get straight into. A steal I can't even read this but the straight face steaming. We know when you were manager you manager for a long time with New England Revolution of Major League. Soccer. which leads to this obvious question Stevie when you were a manager, did you ever consider signing messy or Cristiano Rinaldo? And if not, what were you? Absolutely. Deny after. We. Go beat. I go home get into the Piggy Bank. Figure have enough. Money so. you never put You never put messy on your discovery rights list isn't that the one of the old tricks mls? Now we've only had Julia. Figo War yes. With the Portuguese community in Boston that would've been a smash. Did it ever get close ever talks? Till yeah he's He. decided that. He was going to stay retiled. To have been a fly on the wall of that conversation if yego owner were to leave Athleti, this season which top clubs would be willing to hire him and his style of Football Frank. You think the only would be in high demand if he were to become a managerial free agent. I think. So I think so I mean he should that is a real leader that the player can really fight with him I don't know which club will be interesting about the way she's football and but. If, you want to win something if you want to be tough to beat if you WANNA be strong. Yeah. You can hire a similar because he's going to change something but there is reason to many clubs can afford him I and I don't know if they will be interested about some of those who are. Going to be able to offer him something it's going to be very interesting if he lives. To See. If I can find the clubs frank question top clubs do you think there's many top clubs that would wanNA play the waste? Me Only place when they turned off by that if by definition you already the club your favorite your protagonists. Maybe not maybe going back to their to their know where they were. The first thought was to be strong defensively and the fact that if you strong defensive a chance to win a game, that's what. The philosophy of football in Italy for for decades. So maybe club maybe Milan maybe interior. The? No I don't think you've into because they went to something different of course, dot com if we're going to. Big. Club now, but I think Millan can be something interesting. To to save the capable of paying him and willing to go back to their to the detail in fast. Stevie Halloween coming up our next question. Are you afraid of Liverpool's fixture against Atlanta at Atlanta? Are the best scoring team this season and with Liverpool's defense? Surely, it will be a high scoring game. Stevie how worried are you? On a scale of one to ten. Probably probably five. Watch. The site just looked impregnable to say. You what he did retain some goes out them. Probably Atalanta's no team you wanted to play. So I'll have to say what did I also. Scale of what? I would say nine I. Think we can no score them because we can score goals we can create CIANCI's. And to be at Atlanta, we're going to have to do that. We're going to school them. Because I mean, this is just I can't remember exactly but they've scored the most incredible amount of goals recently. And so. The Goldie School, I, find out to believe that the one score. So we're going to have to school a believable capable of but yeah. Yeah. Defensively I'm what he'd right now about how things are shaping up. Atlanta do give up goals especially against Napa leap and especially against Mexican players Juki Lozano suggests worth bringing up yet a brace against Hotlanta Steve and frank what the best goal you've ever seen live as a player or and a Pundit Frank Best Goal you've ever seen live. it was the start France. We play against Cameroon and we drew and that was close to two yards away from. Patrick. And Bouma and he's called article you call that when you? Reverse leg. Officer K called bicycle kick. Yeah? Bicycle kick exact. Exactly. And I was two yards away. Impressive beauty food goal I hated him but well done. Mr. But. Stevie. You got one that immediately comes to mind. I I. Have all K's goal swollen my head. Both. Of played fall in. And teams against you know that there are so many great things about about a goal that. Did you see one is another. Goals. We poel young over Hatton having a short from from thirty five yards a an league copetition against. The UNFIL- One Night I mean. Nobody saw until the bucket Gotti Bailey was a goal. He actually died as it was lying in the pocket and that. I've seen I've seen little links. Kuala A, smart way. Some. Fantastic. Have those you know. So I don't get don't confess and the head I was twenty Sheffield Wednesday against us. And swear it must have been twenty for. You, know the one you know the one we'll talk about with Renaldo when he when he left. Last season the. Event as well I'm telling you don't with highland up. It was absolutely phenomenal and I couldn't Klopp because it was actually on the field playing against the show but inside them going Oh my goodness I had a lot was. So. Yeah. There's all kinds of in. Okay. Your goals. I. Think I think I'm going to I'm going to mention a goal that everybody saw in nine, hundred, Ninety, seven, I think it was the tuna. And And we played against Brazil. And Roberto Carlos Shot. That's fantastic. Freekick and I was on the bench and I saw that kick going from like thirty thirty, five yards in the no from the outside of the foot any. When Iran the wall and didn't see me about this moving and I remember seeing the pictures after where The bull was supposedly going to the corner. The connor spot and went straight to the to the top corner. And and and we drew against Brasi but. That was hell goal. I do I do believe it would be solved me not to mention Maradona's go against Against England. Woven hand was. But, the woman. Field was absolutely one sure Stevie wasn't great because I was a quality goal because it was against England for you. Both. Of You know what it stuck up his jumper and run into the goal I would have given it as well. Right in light of KLOPP's comments on how I access pitch was did you ever feel that a pitch caused your team to lose a match? What was the worst pitch that you ever played on? I feel like one of the things you always talk about when you talk about back in the day is the fields and the condition. All my goodness. Yeah. Then, Iceland up losing but we it was an FA cup. Tie. It was the third round. That was against York City. I think they would in the old second division the time. frosted the Union is going to be a frost. So did was the night before the he all over the field. then. They thought, Hey, which stopped the field from from freezing. Well it didn't and we played the game. And it was. And it was an absolute name out and all they. was just putting the ball fall Pele box. It'd be horrendous. But. That would have to be the worst of. Frank worst pitchy played on. Well? I think it was the same thing but with the French Cup where we play with the lower division team where the did it on purpose, the best way to win the game is to destroy the field and to make sure you cannot play football and we lost to kneel because it was impossible to play football. It was whole everywhere and that was horrible but I remember playing in the FA Cup against Oxford City and I think the field was flat it was a little bit. On the side like that I mean that was restrained I. Think we had a hard time to too I think drew and we had to to play another game stuff for sure to to be qualified to go through. But that was that was difficult as well. So yeah, that was the all time ten with the perfect they have no excuse. You've got to remember that. Through I think it probably changed when the primarily came under up until up until eighteen. Anyway. The the leak had no real regulations on on the length of the grass or or what volume played worth or any of those things you know teams late Lincoln say. That both corners. saw. Fold call knows they wouldn't cut because I would be be six inches long an older team Jason do kick in the corner and chase up because of all wouldn't run a play. You know things. We used to go we used to go places in the ball. We used like a beach I mean, really you just couldn't play football with it, but it was it was. The team's new from play where proper bowl we played them off the field. So there was all. The. Teams used to try. At least in England or in France that you can find greasy and only on the domestic competition. I we played the champions. League game with Chelsea where we played in trump salt, which is really north of Norway very very father there. and. And we played them. We lost three two away from home because the snow was falling down and we couldn't see the lines. We have to stop the game the second half like four times to make sure we could see the lines. So we we have to wait and it wasn't possible too much snow and I remember we had to play champions. League game never. Never we could. We could see that now it's impossible. Would have never played. Speaking of fix snow thick grass who's the thickest or dumbest teammate you ever had Stevie. told the story. Before. Actually. To Apprentice Sheffield Wednesday. We were having A. Christmas party and I was the table next to them. And these two young kids. Somebody said to them you to Fleming dumb and dumber. And they would actually argue about whose dom and WHO's dumber. Gordon he's gone. He's GonNa. You. Don't you Tom and he's go no, I'm Tom Yum. Ah. Settlers. What. Frank, you got any former teammates, you WANNA throw under the bus. No no no. I'm not that type of Guy I've got many many guys that I think. Dermot. People but I'M GONNA keep it for myself. please. All right. Final question would stevie tempted to try a Vegan Shepherd's pie or a beyond meat. Shepherd's Pie believe that's plant based meat Stevie, would you be willing? Would you be up for it? would. detriot. Yes. I thought you weren't trying new things absolutely. Certainly when it comes to food. Tastes get after me already. Asked me if I would try. I yes Smith over time. Give. Very well. All right. The. The chances let's peel the chances open anywhere. Close. To taste an NFL lake appropriate pie place mall by would would a Cop If somebody made I try. All right. We're going to get the good folks at the FBI. By is. I don't even know what the ship was. Gone I never tasted it. Yes. It has carbs. So I don't think you can eat it frank. You know you like to stay in shape. All, right. That's all the time we've got for this installment of extra time. Thanks to frank thanks to Stevie. We will be back on tomorrow show Dan back in the driver's seat as we look back on the classical and much more from around world. Football.

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69 - Liverpool Are Champions of Europe

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69 - Liverpool Are Champions of Europe

"Let's talk about six baby next dog about you and we talk about all the good things and bad things that may be. Let's talk about six doc. Hello and welcome to the two roby's podcast with me. Robbie muster and him robbie earle liverpool football club have won the author champions league twenty eighteen twenty nine thousand nine season <hes> reveal <hes> sure it was a great game but it's a result and it was all the matters into the poor got the result to nil in madrid spain just gives you i kind of general impressions rob of this <hes> all english much up after say any it doesn't particularly give me any pleasure was disappointing final when you think of what competition been issue champions bling being champions league has been magnificent with what he's given us. What is true is the drama the exam do you think the semi finals and liverpool game into passed balls luna and spurs game it kind of felt it was a final robert if to emulate teams and i think the hope think my hope was that we i saw high intensity. Maybe a little bit in two teams who flew to our possession. You can really create make things happen and don't be in a little bit like like one of those games rob. It's nearly kickoff noon kickoff in everybody's not quite ready for didn't you exp- i. I mean with two teams. The it's so huge for both football clubs suit teams that know each other inside out. They've played it so many times absolutely. Didn't we expected to did you did you if if we had a really good game of football that's a massive bonus. It's such a big game is so important it. It was always going to be safe and knows take any risks. No one's going to fly forward knows going to talk turn to anything kind of a spectacular to try and really influence in case there because they make a mistake. It's very cagey very tight a little bit nervy okay totally. Get your point although i guess i'd better x._p. Maybe big expectation. Maybe monte can be that once but i have to say and the point you make about the nervousness and the way the game and what was it steak. Do you not think goal or goal opportunity. Apparently given up to twenty twenty six seconds changes the whole dynamic of again yeah well it does it does which will talk about in a second <hes> but that's that's august a longtime rob for for everybody enjoy did it change liverpool agility to kalisz just a little bit of edge out of liverpool to the point where we'll no. There was a tentative <hes> performance about pool. There didn't used to c. J. almost sued them off a little bit and show only specs settling transit possession spurs sitting the early seat v eight minutes. A game batted possession. I mean we we watched it together. Yeah i remember looking to you insane because spurs came on strong after that towards half time and send you the liberal gocha sop planning because it gets you're right. They didn't stop playing again. They would on the front to attack. They didn't i guess they didn't need to attack an and it made a different kind of natural position for them the way that they put your game after that the penalty rosca to that because happened really quickly in the game and let me just say this first of all now i know it was on june first and i know that there's a new bunch of interpretations and rules are coming in but they're not they would in place for this game missile. Something twenty-fifth venison competitions was so this isn't the new set of interpretations for humboldt so back took as it always has been and i think we agree on this. We've got about of course <hes> i. It's it's very harsh. Okay right because we saw the ball deflects off the chest the cut of the work the pictorial if you like then straight onto the arm and his arm in in his army's out he's pointing circus pointing and it kinda catches him on the underneath of the just after the chest broad. We're missing something because the referee was right there at the v._a. Are look look. Look like this yeah for for potential panicking etcetera etcetera they will still handball. So what are we missing. We're missing is that european into the game is an and let's just be totally frank about outlive if the ball hits any paul of janda loam in the penalty box. It's going to be a pound cake set forget that he's chessel. Forget that that he was pointing forget that he's not delib. Forget that he might is not making himself bigoted to detect thing if if the ball hits your own inside the penalty box here enjoy your in trouble based on what we must remember the referee didn't even go look wasn't one of those where i think one of the very show hey hon john so is your policy decision comes onto valley is hunt at the moment doesn't seem to montreal to the a new interpretation to see what's going on and there is we'll get into. I guess next robert now a free kick against humble can be accidental and they give some bigger and i guess that he was making south big but in the next saw bunch of interpretations where it's not going to be given even his accidental title is if it comes under the part your body if you play the ball onto your arm then it's not going to be a ham boss. I know this is not. I just don't know where those guys in the game thought uh-huh benefit to replace the fat and they must have decided she's going to help me. I'm telling you i'm not and if i was playing in the game. I'll do the same kicking the ball straight. This is what we said. Okay say penalty cake and interpretations nations. It is if you're going to see more without defenders with the huns beyond the world before because any poll that took john is is going to be approved which is incredibly unnatural to play with your arms tony game changer. I hate it. Can are we just rewind five years rob and go back to the very basic element of this law is going to be too liberal so it's your arm when you unless your arm is spread spread out and it's pretty obvious you're making south pick. It's just accidentally continued doesn't go pat rubbing fortune way. Maybe are you being our listeners and people who watch a game going to have to be sought to be more broadly with our thoughts and look at these missing something that we must be missing. Here's something that european fully is dictated that that was clear to the referee wasn't even any doubt the people in vail clear. So why are we going. How's he giving that. He's coming off the cuff. Chesting must be something they don't kind of look for an and basically what was on its way out 'cause he's pointing but that's about it was way out uh-huh and the ball pretty much similar tena sleep. We just flicked off his hands. You undesired n natural position as away from his body. <hes> i'm and it wasn't it wasn't a caen onto the arm. It was very close to his his upper chest or whatever so they gave him twenty six minutes. <hes> solid takes finds a bucket in that. Do you think he really game in some way did he. Did he think it ruins games it it. It certainly changed the flow of the game. You're right. I live a poor changed the way that they they were playing after that spurs bit more on the front foot. <hes> you know as football isn't it is football. You've gotta find a way one down. You got bags. You gotta lotta time. Impose a live report have to find a way to why the continue to attack which i normally to all it did in this game defended very well defended very well. I'm we know that that's what's changed about liberal from this season two previous seasons. The goalkeeper situation of course is very different now a year ago at against rao madrid with lost <hes> ellison tossed goalkeeper but i thought is back for a liberal post defensive kind of abilities will walk warmness wanted whatever i wrote the same one of the lines that game was won by liverpool's defending pataki talk his were okay <hes> and the defense excellent <hes> go keep an and that's what liverpool is got now. I've gotten to what they had isn't it so oh a single goal so from last year or previous seasons. You still think they might conceive now. That's different so they come. We will know they can win. In different ways they can play counterattack football which i thought they were going to get another gold lakes are on but i thought we see more of that with more threaten more opportunities for them. It didn't really until the the second goal goes in <hes> no defensively very strong visual van dyke rolls royce. I mean just just cruising value vonda continue name. I mean whatever you pay for them. I mean there was one situation melvyn in the game on and maybe a little boy you bought it that human sauna was going on one of those human sons where we came through and he's on the last month with one day. Yeah i can vandyke showed presence. He's strength across the line if sante just body tackle and was just playing put out for a corner kick. It didn't take any any risk and you wanna remind me my husband went well drilling defending analysis and it took me to the same team member. The one was soaker currency so coast china plate. I'm field and cut off twice the altuve defending the art of defending and there's always think i was looking at maybe what we see next year cost. You also need something like oh. Costume on united needs something you know. Liverpool need something light out. Maybe two three three years ago they went and spent on he was there he was playing in l._a. To the to the risk and look there was again. There's a calmness about him. Rob the. I find most impressive so we know his quick. We know he's good on the ball. We know he's a giant can headboard put the way does it almost plane within himself and godless exists very calm and his makeup whatsoever waiver. <hes> and i thought like you yeah couple of situations where they needed him. He was fantastic back there and the whole but four runs play tight year. I mean just very good given given the spurs lineup. Should we talk about spurs line gets his because that was interesting yeah we we debated last pre the game who must all links together asto added diet obviously trust in him that i thought he would go with tyrod. Do we both thought that came would start. We both thought well. I certainly thought might be the guy on the bench that deli in and out of play because of what they did you think what did you think of the way the puts them up kind of fall to three one. Yeah surprise moreover would be in the eleven so i have to say i. If if you're going to drop warn it will be so. I just thought that maybe he can come off the bench. I in a different way. I've just been more hot chicken and all the gone on <hes> he was he was going to be pulling hurricane still yeah <hes> well the game the performance the result show did he was a wrong decision and it was a wrong long decision. First off completed four passes dribble. Personnel defended had shots on goal. Hurry came was it just wasn't ready it wasn't he was pad and i was trying to think what's the right analogy now. This is <hes> do i. If it was like to padding the turkey for thanksgiving they go ready to play in a big game but he wasn't under percent was time she couldn't jump properly getting beat by these times he was going into challenges challenges and and kind of hof going. He wasn't the right how he can now. They've got honey cain entertainment absolutely no why if spurs create four or five chances going across elsa box inside the six yard box yearbooks hurricane is still good enough and as the intelligence and intellect to get on the end of them is he one of those this call be though is he one of those being of chances. I didn't think spurs creating johnson four hurricane to get the goals he would get. I still think seventy percent cain with spurs rattling bulls across the six-yard. He still knows i'll pick somebody off. Because that's a movement you could say what seventy seventy percent when you send. It shouldn't start at the spurs. The spurs didn't make those chances for him at seventy percent so i'd rather go one hundred percent mura umbrellas v seventy eighty percent cain based on what spurs didn't do with possession of the ball. <hes> harry links was the other decision in jail. The i mean i think is a brilliant play. I gotta yes i. I know he's not up a defensive not particularly strong. Maybe physically different doesn't differently and he cuts out a lot of stuff is such a nice football and lee always wants to take the ball and try and play <hes> so i mean that was good. I thought him to play alongside mussa. Soco in the middle of the park. <hes> was good for spurs. Put never never really her liverpool enough rob you know that midfield of of liverpool's with arena plan by the way so quickly on midfield that was where we we weren't quite sure no one that's gonna apply and really trust me now any for the middle so that henson's got a little bit more licensed tends to go and make things happen fills a nicer blend with henderson four get ford other than the james milner. That's the being shooting into that defensive committee. You know it could be the fernandina couldn't he can play defensively understands that roadblock things off. We saw against paul slow now important. He wasn't i mean the big step up for him. In next season could build onto figuring bad things. I mean just the general game again. Whoa whoa spurs lacked something. Rob didn't name what what is it that a lacking right now in that particular game that they couldn't hurt liverpool is it just defending was was good and there are grew system and the spurs all kind of doing as well as they can spurs to win the chums league. We talk again. We talked about it delhi to be on the great. Deli make him on owns one christian eggs in pulling that good play hard very fast and they weren't somewhere fit sumo zuma below the best. That's all they know is good as liverpool no before the game he said to and favors favors and we said for spurs to win the game. They have these guys that play their very best and they didn't and you throw nari hurricane. I think we we thought like if he's anywhere near play don't claiming and they lose you. Guys are aka and if you do play many loose so i'm not really blaming <unk>. You're making this system taints. It's a gamble he took it didn't work out and how sorry came was was seventy percent and wasn't able to influence the game in the way he would want. James mellanby left out. It's kind of sad to sell that goal off gables saad absolutely perfect money includes writing to do the right thing to do. Bring him on the pitch did a again just thinking about the money energy you can help him what he did in terms of subs i mean he's co everything pretty much roy robin. I mean well. Sometimes you raise an eyebrow when he makes substitution of course roberto kominos be such an important player and he was the guy that he wanted he was started the game and then he came out kind of early. An iraqi goes in again and another. I don't donate through the but let's just let's just have a little pause on that. One for me now came in for liverpool. He was wanting to be missing. I knew the loss of these in season and fair enough to stall probably not proper much fit sixty minutes sixty minutes. He's monje goes okay. We've had to give me an hour off. Yuko hurricane. You can club same position all ninety minutes of the game. It does just punch make those symbols similar calls that club would make he is hurricane his guy does he get nominated by the hurricanes captain as one of ours. Does zeno make some of those kind of cools. We asked him for lucas more early than when i'm talking about changes to make a bit <hes> yeah go make harry gives an hour gray was still intact. Nail lucas more going go and run and run. Give him a different problem. Linda we saw before the game the hurricane you know if he's if he's real close to finish your play but but you still saw with madison van dyke quick runs in behind behind shop plaza of more son ma you know might have been a better chance of them of upset and labor force for hank running between them and eddie stall in an and when you realize maybe the cane thing isn't working gosh when i'm thinking dude earlier. Give yourself a chance of something else don't you you know as much as we love. Harry loves his more than than we've given praise. It's not days not he's day in the team. Gets try and get some. There's no guarantee we just think give multiple and on daca different kind of problem because they would cope with. What do you think tina will have some regrets on it. Then the of course off off the game. He makes decisions that you feel that moment in time to think he'll continue doing something different. I think all good managers would do that. I think all good minds. You say wounded if i if i get it's mostly i wanted to play howard looking back now and not be paul. Always learning not might be part of what we say is going to the next day then again. I'm not saying he'd vodka should still do look more. Now is writing to donny k well. I have an issue is to leave. Canaan full the whole ninety minutes and when lucas more might believe something special we will go on and kind of talk bigger picture both the football clubs rob <hes> but just a quick kind of thought about the <hes> knockout phase and how great is being no semi finals and that week of warm permanent stuff as well of course it was amazing about time is this is this been one of the best phase we've seen. We have being extremely ainley. Lucky of what. We've seen this you inch into football. We've seen a premier league rob <unk> going toe to toe playing some outstanding football putting numbers that we've not seen before and we wait for many weeks when we go to europe and europa league just the same unless chelsea and also both got off see chelsea getting the win some of the things we've seen in champions league football you could not make up you could not michael barcelona being three goals on the pool and never pull keeping clean inch sheet scoring the goals and lino massi in spy but you kind of believe <hes> <hes> you cannot believe last spurs were against iox and with the last kick of a game lucas more finding a way to get them sued i mean you you cannot script out in hollywood and people go well. It's stupid winnick's. He's never going to happen. I mean even going back a little bit. Further around sixteen i xe beaten defending champ is religion five three on aggregate run out of scoring hat trick leads. You bet despite spike from tune no deficit against <hes>. Let's go madrid united p._s. G with the three one win in paris with the help of v._r. So it's not just these two. It's been a brilliant alien knockout phase for different teams and different phase of the competition west well. It's been great with european football so we've seen some of the older great. Let's maybe not being the by munich's. You've anticipated the boss. London's not quite in the past. We've seen some young new ghanzi i._x.'s will we've seen the english teams luke block that powering box live pools th this is the manchester city. The whole mix of european football is really interesting place but we all know is a cyclical cyclical football teams with renaldo. Can it'll be moving on you. Don't messy still been incredible but is that team. Embalm unix kind of going through transition position is it. It's a period right now. In european football where english teams could continue to do well because of others are going through transition. We'll we'll see what was it. Dan visit ram. Legitimate show is gonna be a ton of money to rebuild. That team might take a little bit of time boston a feels like it needs. Some injection of newness somewhere by munich again is thank you look at man city side. This most of them are mid twenties or younger. Liverpool's can't drive with the money that they've got a call spurs as well and it's it's it. Is it going to be a little period now. Where english teams looked dominate the semi final stage onwards for the next couple of years yeah they've they've got the chance for over and what what will see and it'd be interesting football as of keeping hold and and encourage enticing great managers great young coaches into into english football is important as we've seen as we've seen with postino as we seem pap bringing big name players rightagent the right you know some of these top players players these monaco as we've seen in the past who is league and take on another level and we wanna see development of young plays a hurry wing of the world want to see them developing -veloping jacqueline rise and all those quality so it's just a great time for english football break time for european football and degree yeah. We've probably the heart the best <hes> yuping competition with that we certainly jump is league format all right my friend. We'll take a good look at both football clubs of in the the final <hes> and where they go from here but i got some words from one of our sponsors. Don't take a chance of being stranded. Stop by a rally autoparts and get your battery tested. It's free of charge and one of the many services available. If you bought your needs to be replace the professional parts people will help you find the exact battery for your car or truck. Rally auto parts better parts better prices every day. Is it possible to say what is the most satisfying thing about what you've achieved tonight yet no but satisfying. I'm happy for the boys so local you know what people said about a couple of layers of this team and stuff like that jordan henderson ace captain of the champions league winner two thousand nineteen. That's satisfying actually and then then that all these boys admitted to the age of thirty three. I think gum as one of the most so eld very important but i can say again without milley's <hes> dress room dressing room talks before the game with a not non native a two english a non native co-manager <hes>. I think it would not be possible so it's so important all the things what they did. I am doing two weeks how they <hes> lifted them when it had been there but we had little real downs and stuff like that. It's is justin credible so tonight. It's really tonight is really emotional. Most that's that's my main feeling. It's <hes> that overwhelming all that stuff it. It feels really good but i much <hes> common and i thought i would be when it finally happens so <hes> i was not important to me. I really to touch the the the the couple. Whatever i love the pictures when the boys headed lofted winner so a few faces in a stance that was what gave me everything everything i need and <hes> so but tomorrow going to liverpool and having something to celebrate that speak and i'm really looking forward to that okay so those really reflections in cloth have money. I champions league first pizza civil f. a. liverpool and now the thing that stands out for me more than anything else. Both he's a player's money. He loves. He's group plays just a remarkable job over the seasons. Now is three seasons we all three hundred thirteen stomach alison at home just a steady progression <hes> of course the remarkable season that primarily ninety seven points and being behind unite of course months by one point and now winning feels like they deserve they deserve something from the season because they've been so great <hes> where they you know where they go from here and how they try and improve is difficult because it's hard you know i i personally talib who makes them bad. What makes them better. You know she'll just talking. Oh can you talk about the the clear and i don't want to go back to haul berina point my my kind of mitchell salaries on the rope elite at chelsea and deserve to be at the football club and and you can hopefully see where he's trying to take your in club is just a natural fit for this football to due to a person and the money he's now going to be in the rarefied <hes> of an and brandon close to it and and and <hes> we'll go quote close to it. He's gonna have the jurgen klopp flag in the cul de the rest if thanh already rarified lyda and and so many factual but what i think he's doing it is not given liverpool. I was trying to think reenergize is he's got. He's giving it back. It's is football. I did not always giving it. Don't give them because i still think people we grew up in new what level wounds for in the way they were. They getting back to that taught. Why don't i go back now that back back as a superpower but getting his winning twenty league titles isn't it. That's dots will actually get him back his well then that's what but they was such a challenge this season. It's almost the pretty much they're iraq where where they haven't been in the past and now live a poll again is is is one of the very best teams in european football and of course in the premonitions monica's what they want to win next and they have they've made such progression <hes>. I know you're just going to jump in fourth again. Go the ownership join. What a great job. What are what are your. They've boston red sox. World series champions till you get boston yet. Yeah yeah we go in just an ownership and we've talked ownership before for launch podcast robyn how important the ship is and how much the lead us some of these clubs yeah owners that want to win. My city chelsea. Chelsea owner wants to win every single season win something and now he's saying liberal football club. It's such it's such an important factor recruit in the right guys the right football structure realizing realizing there's a different football structure at the club and commercial structure of the football club brilliantly done michael edwards director of football. They're good people in all the good spots <hes> every rose on from that good full people as well. They're up. Just go people good football people who understand what is it in your one hundred nineteen. I i'll just go back to a last podcast too because i think i need to make a point that i was talking to liverpool. Women game how important is trophy was and members of the saints in who could and for the more after about eight mu liverpool the e because now which one about your children about liverpool. You're going to implement towels. You're talking about club. He's tooting fits that with full this. This could be the platform for liverpool now for the next five or six years. If if without ownership with the money with the rot plays bull in the younger replays. I looked through the team of thinking about liverpool now attack <music> from tweeted to die at tons. When will the game additions will come in and prove that you know what democracy role for him defend this team now. Let's define by they love clean sheets like then they used to score goals the intensity with what they complain he mentioned the word cop tools season go with what she's team play james milner his age. His stage was clear with the money he's probably made and and the medals that he's got shouldn't be this only well in your club interesting talking about millions. He said interview after the game like that. He's such an important player that his pre-game dressing room chats with the team is basically incredibly important that he didn't think he could get them one today based on these position if james wasn't doing that so even james miller it didn't start in the game is nice to get a little bit of insight from manager about what goes on in the dressing room who are the leaders and what they do. James mooney is been there done everything i mean. He's he's won a guy to look up to so that that's really important as well. I think it's good to look ahead a little bit too for liverpool. Yeah and you talk about driving desire and the manager we know all that challenging monster city again for next season after experiencing this season an an and and watching mine city win last fourteen games by the way to win the the talk by one point mentally to things mentally you comfort gonna be good to go again and let you know okay revamp reenergize for permanent campaign and on the other side of things. Maybe more important recruitment what what needs to happen. What needs that he needs to happen. What could they should. They do to freshen things to improve roof things in which areas of the team we talked about as his goalkeepers sound so i'm not in bad shape too grateful bucks vandyke karate gomez fair. Yeah not invite shape really good. Maybe you bring a young one. In new. You're going to vote on the twenty three three tight. One not the worst thing that they don't they don't by fooled by alexander ronald complain that yeah. I know what you can do that. It'd be one you know if he stayed sure of. Let's right so you you you can drop in midfield midfield and midfield passing creative falls somewhere along the lines if kevin debris and you can't get the point is and then we know those one off but somebody you can see a possibility you might not have quite all energy and intensity but the shabby alonzo totally agree lou coughing feel three in an ideal balance. Yeah was be fabio. Type type type guy defensive. Thanks guys can play a little bit good on the ball but he reads things. Cut things off. You want to go go go through them. We've seen a threat potentially shabby and undeserved love jerry lonzo the former liberal guy somebody that can play a little bit can get the ball and can dictate and can kepler cutler was over the top. You can slide those born between defenders for those <hes> those brilliant wings on the outside they <hes> tournaments by the way the last year interest head yeah sure whether he can step into that team robin at a good age group in a young twenty at least you he'll be a goal threat technical drive. You can sit and hold on hold on. I'm you can do it there. In great shape a little bit different midfielder correct playmate just gives him a different option yesterday and and you ask the question and onto about confidence in a city. That's just remember couple of fox. They lost one game all season for them to use the seven games. Take three those jewels out there when the tile they've won a champions league that is got to give him the belief that close yeah. Thanks in closing sit. You might think we can talk <hes> front three. The two boys no problem happy grads grape great production yeah for me no strike a- rigi now. It looks like starts going to football club can can they find find somebody rob. Maybe i don't know is it was gonna be a fish for me. No easy that undrivable will is when he's on. He's on but we think of. We've got to start to think of competitions games you need you need to bring light for light quality in his review the mon- come up with some huge goals for them but is he consistently the right guy. We don't know i a lot you idea of a young and so far. Let let's be beyond the scouting system at liverpool has produced for them on on all always profile of play they they they got good agee's they understand my one day might nick home from somewhere in france and in belgium in in in jimmy the mighty one of those players that they can go whoa you can just bring that something to this. No worry the monay or most solemn might wanna try something else somewhere else and be attracted much. It might try and grab a couple of those one. Oh i tell you right now. Rope place the not yet. Give give me eighteen months two years and and things don't quite go jumping but right now whether they are. He's not many places to be in european football. We've gone through it that and it's tough to see how they can improve that team. Playmaking midfield player rob absolutely give you a whole count them somebody. Somebody haven't got somebody go all of the spots you can say why there's there's a cover there yeah that's good age there but in terms on midfield and maybe in those draws roles repeal roles you little playmaker who sees slide zabol food on the philippe katina with eh chauncey you could come back to the football club. No and i hope he does in boston at the black type or more of a midfield. We're starting with just three. He's not working intensity. This thing excellent great play listen great player for great business to get the money did somalis kind of moved on from someone like teela into somebody just under the wait also wrote this team with that manager that makes people better and that work ethic around the the might not think of could really good job. Also we might see the full exposure of the ability. Chamberlain was a great example of that came from also. We'll know who's decent plan pooling in different things right. That's exactly right swollen. Thus what you might see somebody else. We think he's a decent place exactly in any goes in the environment it the club reno cooperative rush them any might take six seven weeks before we saw really blood you live poway but we might just fine when <music> jordan henderson wow lift the trophy interiors afterwards hugging his dad for seemed like five minutes. What a great story sorry. What a great professional. What a great story of of of keep going you know when some some people you're liverpool kind of echelon. Playa laya keeps going keeps driving different <hes> positions that he plays in and why don't we hear from rob a little bit of sound of jordan henderson speaking with with passion <hes> right after the game without the money to this is impossible <hes> go through tough times through seasons while he's doing since he's communist. Football club is unbelievable. No neither please go into sports stronger already here. He's better and such a togetherness in the group create especial dressing room so yeah all all the praise everything goes to the manager manager especially my view as well one that will live forever. You woke up to lift the trophy that emily news pickup. Twice spill talks months. Graham sudas wants stephen steve kerr out now. They're adding united list yeah. You know <hes> like i said before. I'm so proud to be positive for both hope nope long time now. The company is even even more special for me. It means everything to his football. Since i was a kid and then yeah ah i've just tried to give me baxter baton football and help me through tough times. It's been difficult over me korea. I kept going to start this. Team's porn and you have moments like this is what you do it for you. This is the best moment of my life cacophony children the moment and this is one of criminal syndicate and just say thank you to everyone you know especially coming w family kids at home election alba libya and yeah just like it's not about me it's up eight million or our company and lifting the trophy especially of course remain football with read. These plays various always manager and now keep born into well. He's dot the emotion the passion the pride <hes> jordan handed some whereas the yellow captain's armband for liverpool football club in and i was hearing yesterday and meeting phil thompson grains eunice d._v._d. Jordan henderson <unk> for liverpool castle. I mean and the thing about jordan handsome ause and we've we've had the st fine melon at the mike allowing leak play his name up to and then yesterday trump is league final kinda adjoin henderson stumped on it and let me say this is it was down it was early. It was gritty. It was not very fashionable. It was who is going to make sure they got over the line and it was a bit lie. I felt june. Heinsohn brings a little bit of old fashioned. Obey the dressing room. We had back in the day and nevertheless hoffman. Somebody's gonna make sure you've got it and <hes> do. I think that's what you wouldn't henderson being. I think that's an important element of liverpool football club leaders james moon. We talked about being that same guy. <hes> the con con can go back to memories and reasons for success early in his career at different football club some what that takes and we know what it takes accord it takes a ton of ability and skill and everything else i and the money to bring in some of these top players but you need that character you need that that just that determination and that guy that's going to ref people up and make make sure they're not you know every single week to get through <hes> through the premier league champions league so i think i just think it's a good story for jordan. You're right it wasn't it wasn't a game from most solemn samawa and and and to be silky not disappointed when he came up who says it's not about that. It goes by expectations for the game. I didn't expect it didn't disappoint me. That wasn't a great game because what you expect you know. It's it's just wanna is an it's all about the result and that's what it was. Unlivable went on their second goal with difficu- vegas finished a really nice here with his left for inside the post. That'll make it to new and it kind of felt without point rob light that show the better annoy me. Why not get me show me show me show me you can still go on to score another go and they did so totally deserved <hes> ex liverpool and just as we before we transition to spurs robert the bigger picture just again for next season is all about the trump the the premise for liverpool now. Is that the remaining thing that you the club has got to try and focus one hundred percent to bring about <hes> two. He goes from hero worship chew god-like worship when he if he can not primarily tall get now just like pet was saying it might say well you know he's hold it in the league on on a he wants to champions league and i'll have a clock can would wanna wrap it up. Liverpool funds would say and it was a brilliant six european complain for them and fishing. They got something. After the season they had in chase city so hard landing the primarily tile has not been done at liverpool football club has not been done and if you can enclo- delivers it up forever king clocks yeah and you just sense that when is the season kicks off next year that i'm field and stuff. There's going to be dr dr excitement and maybe a play or two to add into it <hes> but this this liver poison going anywhere. This isn't a livable out to strain every scene no to try and win win this for next year. They'll go there in great shape to go on next season's. We'll never never fantastic season we will we'll see some of the hotspur raheel some some of them. Some essays success difficult conflict huge difficult periods kids in he's been plenty written sadden and spoke about the stadium. There are no transfers the reluctance on hurry came the the money's going to be there whether trump plaza they're the these been on that conversation and what she'll decide tournament spur of champions these league football next season guaranteed job don. I <hes> directive season of champions league final think and just think about out some of this and the size of clubs who haven't made it to the final. We've talked about the balsam owners and you've got season by nixon on. They just missed tau on on winning. The champions league fine yep fourth in the premier league success learn about chelsea in the league semifinals absolutely success and the whole football football club is screaming success and achievement one of the best training grounds we've ever been to correct now one of the best stadiums around the world right now rack iraq and everything else and we said this stuff before but it should be reiterated because their budget the the sixth highest we think that the numbers come out and the kind of a year behind the sick like the season before this one's just finished they were the six highest soda to do what they're doing to get that chelsea final in different scenarios that one point after the first three games in the group stages. They kept like conceding late goals. I mean come on our show. We liked god. They've gotta learn to close things out and given city they played so in certain games and lost lost points of because of late goals and still to find a way through with this squad that we set in tom's in the permanent robot panova. The line exhausted exhausted team and to get this far. It's just it was just one hurdle to offer them absolutely and listen. I think for spurs at the moment third place finish in the league is almost as their winning tile. They're not good enough yet to be in the top two positions. They're not there yet rob <hes>. They haven't got the squad. I if they were gonna go for a top two finish. They don't miss softy. Give pavia the competition play weaker teams in domestic cops and not not going in in the champions league unlucky by the way the the the era right now that they've got a great team and you've got these two outstanding yeah. I mean nine eight nine seven points in the primarily this team. You saw say you know they're not good enough. Well oh crikey unlucky timing them because they are good enough to be right at them. Winter permanent title this era got outstanding team and you're gonna make the most of whatever <hes> much snotty going through to most after push on again all smell of issues. You're not supposed to push on again. They got to nail that position and start claw a little back rub. That's a big thing. How do they close the gap between them. Muncie in liverpool. That's the big thing uh-huh how how and if you say three or four years to get where he is in this product now throws as ready to go priming. They've won the champions. League chino's is kind of taken a little bit longer less money last residuals and got himself in an a prime position but th there's a probably twelve nineteen point gap and so how do so in terms of trying to close that gap why we've again hard to improve the best eleven at spurs those who given their salary restraints big-time play that they're not gonna do off of it and then we could also argue the the the team has looked tired this ask the strength of the squad hasn't been good enough to rotate and rescue place so in that regard they could bring in some zoos guava similar. Yeah squad plays the eleven but may being games out them out a little bit so erickson. It's like a proper break cane or delhi or different players draw. Oh and they don't drop off so much. They win games against some of the lowest. Is you manage it that way to close the gap yes of course they love to bring in and find a berlin star player from french french second division to make them a ton better but that's difficult to do that me throw to question john two plays christine alex right contract's up what happens between him and massive massive few weeks. It's a massive months and massive window is such a good player. Let me so one of the daily alley is he was the the weight. I is the upside rally whereas whereas i think it is it's it's. I think it is well. Jelly allie will have to start to show the consistency that to brewing the shows that davidge silver show that position not calling iraqi hind aware i'm saying i i teach very best. Berlin in a different way is is not not quite the deployment with the posse no but he got the energy ruining he brilliant timing goal scoring goals around the ball bringing both the komo's frank lampard aska's nea dot guy who influences zone outweigh and that's between him and the manager to try trying to find that form again was it two seasons ago rob you said eighteen awhile and and i don't know for whatever reason again you you could argue that he shouldn't start that game you could you could throw more and you can rotate in league. Put human son at the top in the the number ten position you rearrange that team came in some ways to be better fix deli on the outside position. I kind of switched to number ten and going outside west sun on the outside. Positional roy moore could've done more of that and then some on the other side so this this ways that you could team up without daily but it does give you that only is a midfield players gaglione fighting him. He's got the physicality is go find. It makes runs. It's just we're not seeing the very best of him right now. Critics and by the way is another important paul. He said you don't want to be letting people because genomics football okay so it's it's obviously this is going to go into his final year where they could lose him on a free so now the next month is when you are the contractor or whether they say right christian you don't i want to sign okay. We can't give any more money. We're gonna have to sell ya but what did you say about liverpool and morton ownership the ownership of spurs football club club hasta now decide which way going all the real deal. Oh they install to look to challenge you. Keep hold 'cause you shall genomics in you. Send a message. We just talked about ten minutes. Liberal christian erickson interest rates have gone well you sal when you best each player hobey chicken about the plays. We're talking about spurs the whole thing as much as any individual and not football club <hes> resonates with with pocchettino. It's interesting all been any after after the game obviously disappointed about his future and and the club's future and this is the response. What can you say for the fans of support you through thick and thin and you keep talking about the future future on obscene. There's been a lot of talk about your future in the background not focused on ahead of this but can you tell the fans that were excited to to lead the future on in the coming seasons. I think it's not a moment now to talk too much <hes> because we can interpret you pretty fenian in differing away. Some people want to be clever to compare me with for and monitored and they know that we are in complete different pressure for imposition on different place by the people want to be more more clever land then they won't do give out albanian john without argon. <hes> you know after five. Don was so clear the grocery so glad i would. I'm vision was amazing and the commitment for our player where mason on broadway the club 'em to play for first time in history are temporally finding but now he's about to take on <hes> on started to ooh james damore him what mine and for shula. We're going to have time to talk now. The only thing that both me a little bit about the interview rob the the question about his future. I would've expected different. Response may be of more. You know you know set off well. Don't say anything now three misconstrued or i mean you've been looking for a manager. Yeah i use right near the reading. She mo tat each of out daniel leave. You almost nudge him. He i'd love aw yeah con totally see my future because it might change correct unless you stop. Give me some improved thing john yeah let while ago see the months maybe six weeks. He's talked about wanting to compete to morning to be kind of happy at the tools to to to be able to give the project yeah is. I still think his future in space futures together. I still think there'll still think these these good things that can harmful mm fistful boko. I'd love him and football club to win a cope to stop pull this who go in the league cup next february lift it put them to bed do show people that you can win the trophy and and it will always need elite club. He's worn it silver which we we are not silly. Call money joel. Is there anything in protein. Oh the thinking to himself while chelsea final. We're in the permanent right now with these two outstanding standing teams. I'm not sure where i can go from here with this club. Rob is it well like i'm on a might need to move on tough spot for him to make this his team better unless unless he's given this pool and there's some places he could go way you put your clothes an no no well you mentioned not could go to they could even underfoot by munich bigger clubs. Yeah you yeah topan clubs clubs in transitions clubs that need work clubs. It need some of this stuff yet to spurs them. Slow tally go to success. During those periods. You might be three years before we got success would be three more years in spurs. Will avi the support with us it. Yes it by municipal you venice yeah. Cash cash is gonna so our any saw out and then the money comes in for for the big time players. He wants spurs so you can say that he those cubs are in transition as difficult for him would be better spent standard spurs but he'll no in time. The money will come to try and produce a team that can win everything. They've come so close you'd like you. You don't wanna think that he might feel a taking spurs. As far i was like can i opie stays on respect for what he's done. We know that we've gone over the money. We're gonna this the way this club has grown but goes by ownership and how much they're particularly that okay now going to kind of almost mortgage on the future of the revenues at this stadium and what the money they boosted from this year to get our spurs can potentially become a superclub. They can cut us. The stadium revenues t._v. Money's phenomenal abby thins affable club yeah so it's just how much money is the stadium going to take away from developing a team and we saw it on snow again reports and say that no there's still a bunch of money money portugal get in the summer to make you stronger and <hes> we're absolutely clear on this. It does need new players. Now does not the pennant wimbley or the funds and the players trevor into that stadium every time like an away game and to get what they've done this season with all those senses this is this is remarkable but now he's shown what you can do. We now deserves a chance to to kinda have ago ago this group christian and eric and again though in the massive sign post a week in a sign on if you if if in a couple of weeks we reading an and all those things come now is christine signed. The spurs boom fails boom yeah if we're reading christian nixon agencies talking and it looks like he's gonna leave. Worry me well. What are they need. Spurs can cause quick real quick to go through the team. It's good in areas in it might need to write back if trip he goes tool about monopoly in the back lot donnie rosemont needed i mean thomas sanchez and in one fully to deal in good shape <hes> from plasma son the mailer cain not bad. I'd like another one another one. They're like an the gold school google one. If these one available can we talk about the field and if he stays makes everything yeah vaccine goes looking at different things so these work on these targets to be called spurs they're going to have to do with if they wanna be you know lifting trophies lot liverpool manchester city and going onto the next stage psychologically for them next season going to be taught for again i would say places is <hes> <hes> listen. You can win it. If top three finish the whole season in this state and rubio could could be a massive lift so be a must she has talked about being like something special when you in the noises so game from spurs in of discipline so so much just need a boost of a couple of players to give everybody a ba- freshness about it and more excitement from those supports ready for a new season but there's no question full respect for this football club what they've done with this group. I'm with the manager in difficult circumstances <hes> on every reason to be very proud of of what they've done this season absolutely so <hes> respect to both the teams who got champions league final block after this year's champions league final is heavily wanna hear from you are listening to donald. Please write me be the show of the next few weeks. Why don't we let us know what you're most looking forward to for the star of the next time grammy league season and we'll beat out some of gestures as we get started with the kickoff on a weekend when you can quote when he first piece of silk whereas with his words no mine. Let's talk about six bay. I'm he's must have to julius listening listening to me from him. Good night <music> <music>.

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