18 Burst results for "Ranger School"
"ranger school" Discussed on The Sheepdog Project
"Help a company that reached out to me and They're all about mental health. They're all about helping people in need Soon as they told me what they're about I, knew that I wanted to be involved with them especially in the veteran community, the law enforcement community. We have a lot of people struggling out there struggling with with these silent battles or whether it's depression. Anxiety. Do you guys listen to this you go to a work, go to a job every day where there's legitimate danger of personal injury or even death and that can. Understandably. That can cause anxiety being away from your family for long periods of time that can cause depression. being denied some of the goals in life can cause depression I've you know I've gone through some rough times in my life I have. Yeah. So so ask yourself what what is there anything right now in your life that interferes with your happiness is there something that is preventing you from achieving your goals? I talked about that in a previous episode of the podcast stumbling blocks that I had to to achieving my goals Once or twice and how that affected me. When things didn't go well for me the first time I reported to to Ranger School and I share that story in the podcast. I went into a brief period of depression. I mean it was really brief. I was over in a couple of days because I didn't have a choice, but you know the. That was really the first failure in my life and that that had a profound effect on me. We've all been there man. We've all.
"ranger school" Discussed on The Art of Manliness
"You know so eighty plus pounds at the end of that first week whereas now they do a twelve mile march with less weight and so I and a lot of other students you know after just one week already had feet that were completely torn to pieces and so we were essentially limping around on those combat patrols trying to do the best we could but in a lot of physical pain which of course makes everything else harder. I think these students got out of that first week. Maybe in slightly better physical condition just because of the that that March had changed aside from that you know I certainly when I did the article. I didn't want to be one of these guys. Who Said Oh you know I went through it when it was hard and and now it's gotten easier because I think pretty much since the first class every and so in class has said that about the next class And that's not really the case. I mean you still don't eat still don't sleep there still a lot of stress. You're still out in the cold and the rain in the mud. You know. Those things haven't changed even if there's a few things here and there that that have maybe made it ever so slightly more manageable are so you do phase you. Start those combat patrols battle patrols after that you go to mount phase and you're still more patrols but what what's going on there. How does how do they had? An starters ramp up the stress to make it harder there. Yeah well so just to get to mountain phase you need to have earned you know what they call it go so you need to have successfully passed one of those patrols not everyone does. I think fifty percent of the incoming class doesn't even make it through that I you know three or four day Test a physical fitness. And so there's a smaller group of people you know moving forward at that point but yeah so many you pass patrol you get through the fitness prerequisites. You move on to the mountains. I mean what really changes? There isn't so much additional stresses the instructors give you. It's the mounds and the terrain and you go from kind of walking across relatively flat. Fort Bannon even though. There's some kind of dense vegetation and swampy elements to it for the most part. It's it's relatively flat. You get to mountains and all the sudden you know. A five kilometer patrol looks a lot different when when four of those kilometers are straight uphill carrying one hundred pounds on your back and so. That's one element that makes it tougher. I think most people agree that the mountains are in many ways the toughest phase primarily for that reason just because you're carrying so much weight over such long distances over such challenging terrain and then the what the weather of course you know up in north Georgia can be Can Be Rough. You know the winter weather in particular are there can be snow and cold. I went through with this class. You know it was already march. I believe in April but there were still nights where it was freezing at night. And they're sleeping out. They're you know they're not in a in a tent or in any kind of shelter. I mean they're just on the ground and so that makes it of course pretty pretty difficult as well and and they're not always walking on Nice pats. You know. It's.
Henry Dick Thompson on Why Smart Leaders Make Dumb Decisions
"Back for a third time is Henry Dick Thompson. I have to throw Henry in there just to make sure when people look for your book. Look they'll be able to find it right so Dick Thompson. SAUK warrior was on podcast to three and two zero four. If you haven't listened to those just going listen them immediately and you'll realize the magnitude of the fact that this individual is sitting here alive talking to me is just an absolute miracle so goalless mature three to four where you can hear about Dick's experiences as a SOG Zog team leader and team member in Vietnam where we left off was home from Vietnam and now checking in as a ranger instructor which for you was a great deal because you have the opportunity to take the lessons and you learned teach them to the Rangers and also home them for your own experience because you figured you were eight months away from going back the Vietnam yes so this is my opportunity to get ready and so I could be more focused next town and I could do a better job now when you said eight months what does it. What was that based on? What was that when you say I was probably going back over an eight months? What was that based on? At that time that was about to turn around rate. You you come back from Vietnam they give you a little time to recover an eight months or so. You're going to get orders to go back again. And you're now did you make captain yet or you still on my captors. Now you may captaining the you must be looking around the guys that you deployed with and that you knew I mean you must be missing a lot of guys now. I mean wounded killed or missing in action. This has got to be just a tremendous number number for you when I when I look at the ones that that I knew that I consider teammates. I mean we did things together. We knew each other. I I have a list that I run for thirty five names. Those are just the ones that I considered. You know my personal friends and teammates now it CNN. We lost a lot more people in that. I just I didn't know him very yeah well But just the time I was there you know I got thirty five games for and you got to have that in your back of your mind when you're training these young rangers. You know what they're getting into even if it's not sog you know you want to prepare them to the best of your ability for what they're interface. Yeah because I knew that time I mean they were going to Vietnam. I mean there. There was no doubt especially they made it through Ranger School I mean they were going so the the question for me was in addition to the personal things that I wanted to do like improve my skills. What could it do for these guys to help them have a higher chance of surviving? Once they get there so I can't even made my mission so you got you got the normal instruction from Arranger Instructor A-plus then I edit other things on and I said you gotTa do this learn how to do. This is how you talk. This is how you lead so they. They got a lot of extra coaching training whenever I led to a group And I just. I felt responsible to do that. What were some of the leadership was that you focused on teaching? The young Rangers Some of it was you know you got to be accountable and these guys. You got to be accountable. You've gotta take responsibility ability. If you're gonNA lead them you got to make sure you know what you're doing you gotta be physically fit. You gotta be mentally. You need to know the tactics techniques you need to enforce them. You need to encourage them. You need to build a team. You need to take care of them. You need to know everybody on your team team if you've got a platoon. You need to know everybody in the potassium and at that time. The army used to issue a little. Oh Green Notebook pocket-size notebook hardback. That you put in your pocket and you know I tell you need to have people in here you know. In in peacetime you need to know who they are. No something about him so you can relate to him when they were having problems and how to train them. You know the best know what they're weak areas are for how you can build them up. 'cause you're accountable for them they're your people and you're the guy that's the the leader you need to be the first one out here and You know for me. I'm not going to ask you to do something I won't do. I'M NOT GONNA go to you. Say Hop out the door. They are applying here. If I'm not going to do it I know I tend to to do more follow me. You know. I'm going out there. I'M GONNA do it too and I'm going to set the example for you. This is how I want you to do it. And so trying to get that through through to him and and trying to get through in terms of think of yourself as a professional. Thank about your medical doctor Dr Everyday. You should be reading learning studying getting better every technique that you know You should be trying to improve it. Every day is about practice Whatever it is you're doing a ask yourself? Is there somebody else better than you than you need to be practicing. Yeah you gotta get as good as the best. You want to be that person and you don't get there by just wishing hoping you gotta get out and take the action some of the things that you're going to be doing particularly if we if we think ranger special forces seal all steps a mindset some mindset you gotta think like that you can be in the greatest physical condition in the world all but if you don't have the mindset you can't do it and you guys are already seeing here Rangers go. How many of your buddies have already dropped out? When I went through ranger school we started out with two hundred and forty eight people? When we finished we had one hundred and seventy five actually make it to the end of the course? Seventy five others got a ranger down. Rest Emden so they're only seventy five rangers produced and it was mindset. It wasn't it. They were bigger stronger faster. They had the mental capacity to keep going on one meal today. You three hours of sleep at night. Keep pushing and still be able to think cognitively enough to put together a good tactical plan communicate doc plan execute that plan And it takes work and you need to be the leader so people follow you so why. Why whatever it is that? I'm going to do out there tonight. Expect you to do. I want to be doing it to the most of my ability. If you're going to jump out of an airplane airplane with a rope tied onto you to pull the parachute out. I'm going out from thirty thousand feet Halo. And that's that's what I do if you have to have you've Atlantic on the size of a football field to get into. I'll cut it down to a third of that and do it in the dark. Are you want you to say it can be done better if you beat me more power to you. Catch now what you've done just told me I need to practice. But YOU'RE GONNA make it more for the part that you said about being a professional and when I talked young seals or young marines or soldiers airmen sailors whoever you know our say I would say the euro professional and then I. This is your life this right here is your life and everything else is secondary Mary to what you're doing right here and you need to study. You need to learn you need to read. You need to practice. You need to rehearse and you need to do that all the time. Because you're never going to be good enough and you need to make this right here your life You got a couple other notes in here. One of them says Staff Sergeant Shelley. What's that all about when I when I went through Ranger School in the mountain of as there was African American Ranger Instructor. There Call Sergeant Shelly. Hard core hard core dude. Rarely did he pass any went on patrol and I had him. He graded me one time and I passed Uh when I came back from Vietnam and went to the department I ended up in the mountains. He ended up on my team. So now I've got the famous Sergeant Shelly on my team and I thought man this is go. We go on patrol. We're on grading a platoon leader. He's growing grading sergeant. It's eighteen degrees outside Chelsea shows up. Could you got fatigue shirt on. But he's got his sleeves rolled up and said where's your Parker Parker gloves. I don't need glass is eighteen degrees. He said okay. I'm fine hard dude. And then do we. We're out on patrol. The snow's almost knee deep with dragon. The Rangers through it. They're tired to call and You know so I call the next patrol leader next person who's GonNa take over the the protein and ranger take after mouth and I want you to show me ten digit coordinates to where we're standing right now. Could you gotTa know where you're starting from. And he kind of looks at me and said take your map out. I don't have them out sir. Why don't you have a map? Said well sorry. Shelley took my map when we stopped back there and we had to go ahead man because of the guy getting the frostbite He took my out then. Go Ask sergeant challenge to give you your mouth that community that I can't do that so he built a bar with my out as it. Okay then you need redefined somebody for here gonNA loan your mouth. You're going to be the patrol leader. You gotTa have a map back then. You could do a lot of things that you can't do now. It's hard to shelley would take onions. Cut them in half rubble rubble all over him. He would eat garlic taking some Kentucky Fried Chicken with him in the bag and so when it was dark and the Rangers students you only had to feed them once every three days back then. They got to call her and resupplies or if they call them for resupplies that they didn't ask expert food they just got to have an issue So they were always hungry and you get under a Poncho at night. Sorry Shelley would say show me show me where we are on the map and the range would start to porn out where we're at and nobody under the Poncho can breathe. Shelly smells so bad. Egypt secondary breath. Their eyes are watering and the guy starts the point to where they arslan mouth and he dropped his chicken leg on his finger tactile chicken. I don't you dare Lick your finger not show me where you are. I mean he do things like that to a mall town and he was he was very good very hard And then as I started to develop a similar reputation they would hear about it forbidding and when it got to the the mountain face and Shelly I would walk in and take over the patrol for the next twenty four hours and we'd introduce ourselves you could see the looks on their face face all no one's bad enough. We owed them at the same time. No one's GonNa pass but Yeah I mean shelly. Celli Super Guy Really Smart and got another name down here. 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"ranger school" Discussed on Jocko Podcast
"This was a major life ambush, one of the first major life ambushes I'd ever encountered, and I literally was on the acts taking withering fire, and I couldn't figure out how to get out of it. And you were doing your best to return fire with your pistol. In this case, I was going to return one round thinking that was going to fix things. I'm going on. Right. I'm going to maintain this position right here. And I'm going to win. No. Actually, you're not you need to look around you need to Banou Hoover. ver. So you do end up keeping your Trident. Because obviously there were some guys that believe like you said believed in you and saw that you had the potential and actually sometimes people ask me, what makes the guy get fired or knock it fired. And for me. It's like almost one hundred percent if the guy lacks humility they're going to get fired or if no one if I would see a guy that had no humidity whatsoever. And I didn't see a crack it'd be like, okay. This guy's a lost. Cause he's never gonna listen. Anyone you can't coach someone lacks completely. So or you can't help them. They they're going to sit in on the accent. Just get shot up. That's the way it's going to be. So somebody saw that hey, we can get through to this guy. He's a good team guy and more importantly to that point. And this is a great leadership point and organizational point, not only are they going to sit there and take those hits because they're too arrogant to be willing to move. They're going to pull everybody else down with them. And that's where it gets. Really dangerous. I mean, especially in our community where lives are on the line. I mean, if they're on willing to learn or humble themselves enough, they're going to get somebody else killed and that was the big concern at that point. And man, I've got to give kudos to my commanding officer who is a friend of this day. He saved my career because I wasn't exhibiting humility I was fighting back. I was I did the right thing. I'm the Bickham here. I'm just being thrown under the bus, and thankfully, he had enough faith in me. I guess he had seen enough good that he said, I think we can fix him. Good man, and one of the things that they do to fix you in the seal team's is send you to ranger school. A wonderful vacation. I would say there's a small some people that go to ranger school. They want to go to ranger school right on. But oftentimes in the team's ranger school. I wouldn't even call it punishment. But it's like a reeducation. And that's definitely something that has always been. And that's what they do with you. Okay. They're going to they're going to send you to really tough training school where it's not just a tough training school where you get weeded out. You've learned some tactics. You learn you learn leadership, and I did not go to ranger school. But it's a great school everyone. I know that the Rangers that I know are awesome guys. So great school. But oftentimes we use it in the seal team's maybe punishment is the wrong word in some cases. I know it's been punishment occasionally, I wanna go there. But generally guys generally guys are working so not going to go to ranger school. You end up getting the ranger school. And here we go sick hungry burning with resentment because as you said, you're not. At this point. You're still like all this this crap. I don't deserve this. I was to say, I was bitter isn't understatements. Burning with resentment. I went into the first few days with without my heart, reminding gauge the first week of ranger school is nothing, but a gut check long days with minimal sleep exposure to the elements and constant physical and mental evolutions to get those who don't want to be there to quit teamwork leadership within a circle of peers and decision. Making under stressful conditions where the objective of this first phase as a seal I have represented my community in the best possible manner while by displaying leadership commitment to teamwork in a willingness to overcome obstacles. Instead my action showed me to be era that ill-tempered and unwilling to work with others. Many soldiers falsely believed that seals are like that in my actions, re simply reinforced it I failed the represent my community as anything, but that stereotype, so you have this bad attitude..
"ranger school" Discussed on Mentors for Military Podcast
"They didn't have any concerns nor whether any issues or anything that came out of that. So I I don't know. I just think sometimes people make a big issue out of nothing. Well, go ahead. What I was gonna say. I think it's a it's a bit of a chicken and egg thing, you know, I agree with with everything. Dawn said I would say in reverse order. You know, we've been. Put women in combat for decades. Now, that's that's happened. You know, and it's sort of like, we're we're catching up on the garrison side of things in the training side of things, you know, I think that the women already out there, and it's not just already out there that they're in the while they're doing the job. They're going down range, and we can't live without the proper tools. Tool and that was one of the things I was going to bring up earlier with that is, you know, the older guys that are on here. It was it was referred to the front lines for twenty years. There's not a frontline anymore. Every everywhere you walk the front line. And you know, you can relate things back to back when I went to ranger school, the only non combat arms that could get into their where you know, the medics from the regiment are the cooks on the from there. So there were I along the way that weren't if you were from another division another unit, and you weren't an accom- bat arms. You you couldn't go to you couldn't go to the school. And you go back to the two thousand three when they had the the Bockel in Iraq down with the the unit that just wasn't fit to to lead. They weren't. There were supposed to be behind. Guess what? They ended up there in front or their their own. The enemy lines. Yeah. Back so far as like if a s and, you know, back in those days, you had to be for, you know, with I think it was four six years of military service before you could even go to SF ASO. The point is valid. I mean. Yeah. People coming in eighteen x rays coming into the ranger ranger contract. Those types of things, and so it certainly opens up and changes the narrative Ginny, I I don't know if there's any like lasting words that you wanna leave, you know, especially not just the listeners out there that are wondering about women within ranger and going to ranger school. But even those women who might be considering going to ranger school. But maybe if there's something that you'd like to leave with him. Absolutely. You know? I mean, if you have the opportunity few units or your leadership give you an opportunity, I don't, you know, not even ranger school. Just any opportunity in general take the opportunity under the best you can. And that's like, especially with, you know, fig it up to go to ranger school since sincere that you're with the right people that are going to train you because it's, you know, women we have, you know,.
"ranger school" Discussed on Mentors for Military Podcast
"So what do you think about the people say that you're kind of the trailblazers? I mean, I wouldn't say necessarily Mia would say it's more the first three women who will have in the first three first nineteen women who went through we've attempted in April of twenty fifteen. I would say they are there for sure because I mean, there was nineteen women and there's one hundred seventy four thousand women across the department of defense. There's only nineteen of them. Not even want dry said a lot about their character. Then at the end of the day, three of them ended up making it through until that was you know, it was just like that moment right there where you just those. I would make to go through. And then you're like, okay. Like if they can do it. I I don't know about. But maybe I can do it too. Pretty tough pretty pretty tough. But I mean, I would say when people ask me that question, you know, hey, you know, of course, you know, to represent the, you know, the women in the military, and that's that's why one of the reasons why is to rub into small population that, hey, you can do anything, you know, you just gotta work hard and realize the environment that that you're working in is very male dominant. And you gotta match up to your counterparts. You know, if you want to be successful be no, you have to have the same qualifications that they have it doesn't, you know? It's you know, he'll walk to within the job. Yeah. That's in the military. It's just it's very different. You know? A very different environment. You know, you have to be smart. You know, you have to be able to critically think. And like, I said range definitely in one of those schools. That offer offers that one of the things was there was those that are attached aren't units. Well before the two thousand fifteen when they were given the opportunity to attend ranger school. And and there was many women that that came to work every day, and you know, they were essentially competing with men that were in the unit because they wanted to show that they were equal and it wasn't out less to get to get by. And you and I would say the ones that went through. You know, what you did was phenomenal. And you opened up the open up doors because the first couple that went through they didn't get their leadership. I would say their leadership didn't come from the graduate in the school that school gave them -tunities to go show the leadership abilities that they have they get to perform and lead soldiers every single day. And so I think, you know, ranger school is opened up the I guess table talks to. Okay. So now, they they've done this. If people don't like change, not everybody adjusted changed that well, and the fact that you know, prior to ranger school. There was still first of females along the way not just in the military. But so as they go through there, they're just they're giving their opportunities to to continue to lead than you know, it's so far it's seems to be working out. All right. The British military defense actually just came out and stated the same thing for their forces for a period of time. You know, the females could not go into combat arms or especially in a special operations unit. And now they've opened it up over there. And I'm starting to see the same type of comments and everything made by those who are operators as well. As those who, you know, were maybe not of served as to why it is that women should be allowed to do these types of things. And again, I. I think that the point that we're dressing here is that it's not going to be a large number anyway. And those that make it aren't gonna have lower standards, and then yeah, sure, it may bring up other challenges that have not been always doubt or looked at with females being in integrated with males in combat arms type of environment. Where you know, they're the lone person, and how is that going to occur? But we've certainly had females in combat situations in Afghanistan that are surrounded by males. And I can tell you of one, of course, cat Kaylynn who was with the along with a bunch of other females with you know, Rangers in a combat situation..
"ranger school" Discussed on Mentors for Military Podcast
"But yeah, I was there to you know, I mean, honestly, it wasn't until I actually stepped away from the military that I started changing that perspective. And maybe even my latter years my military career, but it is almost one of those things that Jenny you talked about that kind of good old boy network type of thing. There is a bit of that. There is kind of that destroy fed organization that you know, we we don't want it to be broken. Absolutely. I recognize that almost every day, you know, just walking guac and going to work or whatever. But it's just the mentality. It's just the mentality of the individuals. You know, and that's what it comes down to is just a different way of thinking because. Yeah, you know, like, you said you don't want to break the good old boys club. However, though, you know, if you really look at the big picture Paula saying, it doesn't matter at the end of the day were you're not here for yourself. You're Dessau why you joined the United States military. That's not why you go down range. You know? None of that matter that the end of the day because if I have to go out and go, you know, put a chess seal on somewhat and some male, you know, he's not going to be like, oh, you know, you're women. Don't put that on me. Otherwise. And so this is not going to happen. It's just not going to happen. So those things are just keep in mind that it it doesn't matter to me, whether you're know, what gender rate doesn't matter because the you know, you said. You know, you you go to ranger school could be like competent leader, you know, and survivability, you know, making sure, you know, you're a great leader. You can bring your your shoulders back, you know, saving and sound to their families. You know at the end of the day. That's what it's like what is about. It doesn't matter. You know, because not only that is some of these women who have graduated from ranger score. Absolutely exceptional exceptional leaders that could probably outperform many males capping Gracie. Recapping Haber their company commanders in the eighty second. And they weren't given that opportunity they, you know, just like any company commander position they had an interview for it. And you know, they didn't get it right away. Because there were other infantry captains that would Justice stellar them. And they were males. You know? And so it didn't matter their gender. But now both of them are company commander, you know, jump master their leading, you know, all these young men and women, you know, and one of the best unit. It's the army has to offer..
"ranger school" Discussed on Mentors for Military Podcast
"Because of the fact that there may not be a straight answer this going to be in a textbook. I mean, it starts with you know, the fact like you've mentioned, the could you call it an individual the winter ranger school and Liz this ranger standard. If you don't put it out there. You don't try to use the fact that you have a tab in call yourself, a ranger the fact that you still went to the school signifies something I mean, like we're all talking about here. It's that is that way. Like, you mentioned Don somebody's looking on that left sleeve to see the schools that you've gone through. Okay. You know, you've gone through ranger school. You may have gone through us and Q and been through special forces. You've achieved certain things, you know, you may have been you know, you got your jump wings. You've gotta see I be whatever the case may be. There's that whole thing that everybody focuses in on to measure. For the individual. And certainly ranger school's always been one of those. But then I also look at those guys at never make it to ranger school and spend their time in the military in a ranger regiment as an infantryman, but in any role for that matter and regiment, but certainly, you know, as an infantryman and spent six month deployments or less over in combat. Multiple deployments in that same period to say that that individuals not arranger would not be fair either because they live the ranger standard and the ranger creed every day. Yeah. And again that comes down to you know, the individual you have ranger qualified. It's like, you're airborne qualified or your Pathfinder qualified if you you can have the badge if you're not doing a job, you know, again, you got to have a refreshing when you go back through there. And those things are kind of been, you know, it was a tab wear and a tab bear, you know. And then we tunes aren't that? Was like, hey, you know, here's the three criteria. To be to be arranger. You know, this is his opinion. But he was like you got to go to the school. You got get you have to get your ranger tab. Then you need you need to be in regiment. You know, those are two things you have Tabare Tabare. Those are the guys, you know, they do it day in and day out. That's not the say that the guy that came from the eighty second on the twenty fifth. You know, doesn't go to the course, and then comes back, and you know, doesn't day in day out do his job. But at his particular time that he's serving you know, he is in the twenty fifth idea. He is in the eighty second airborne, you know, he's airborne ranger qualified. But again, it goes back to what you do every single day. And you know, people that you're around that also takes us back to the very beginning in this conversation about how it's meant to be that type, of course, that you can go back in to bring that knowledge of that course, back into your individual units and add only as a leader, but sharing some of the knowledge that came out of that course, with their individual unit, your Petuna, whatever the case may be that your commanding that timeframe just like people in regiment, the whole idea is that you don't spend fifteen twenty years in regiment that you actually are supposed to go back to the conventional army and spent some time there, and we both know Paul some guys who have done that. But there that's supposed to be the pipeline. The pipeline is supposed to be taken individuals from the Commissioner army synonym into ranger regiment. Taking guy some ranger regiments Senate amac of the conventional army and that that breeds that. Kind of understanding of what being arranger is all about. Yeah. That's all from Abrahams. Charter, you know, we're not supposed to hoard knowledge. And then just have the best fighting team in the world. You know, it's not not like we have a fighting Super Bowl that we're all going to you know, so. Spread the knowledge sharing the wealth. Like, that's that's crucial to to the whole system. The whole ranger system. And I don't know what kind of leader you would be or what kind of I mean can be ranger a leader. Right. So. People sharing knowledge mentor, someone that didn't have the same opportunity as you. I guess. I mean..
"ranger school" Discussed on Mentors for Military Podcast
"Now there are females that are in special operations units. Some of which are not really, you know, talked about and such but the long wear and tear of the human body in these types of situations. His probably not been really documented well enough to know, whether or not females can last in that type of environment because there is I mean, it takes wear and tear even on the male body in the types of equipment and everything else terrains independent to go through. So to your point. It's not that every woman going into the military and every woman going into inventory, every person is wanting to go become a ranger just like this. It's the same. Ratios. It is for men. There's not very many men that wanna go that same route. And yet the same small percentages are going to be those that actually end up going into regimen as well and carrying on a ranger. But I think it's important to that. Maybe we need to talk a little bit about what is arranger because there's a whole lot of conversation about called himself ranger, then after the Rangers go, okay. Well, you know, you went to ranger school, but don't ever call yourself a ranger because you're not wearing the tan beret and part of regiment yet. I believe there's actually a hall of fame four Rangers that doesn't discriminate by individuals that only spent time for those that are only and regiment, they actually make it open to anybody that carried the ranger standard and went out there, and and became the best ranger that you can be in your military career. I mean, I would say that. I don't say I'm arranger. I do not. Ranger gone to render school, but I definitely don't say because it's just such a difference because I'm a chemical officer. Okay. I'm a chemical officer. I don't spend time in ranger regiment. Whereas these men and women literally live in greed what they do. It's just like going to you know, selection. You know, if it was different where? Yeah, you go through the Q course. But then hey, I'm q- course qualified by. I'm not in. You know, I'm not a green beret or something like that, you know, but you have to be hand selected to be in that type of organization vizier best of the best in the military. You know, like, yeah. Ranger school less than one percent of the military. You know, men and women have ranger tab. However, you know, if you want I think to continue to excel with that with that tab, you just go to the next level, which is ranger ranger regiment. Yeah. I mean, that's my opinion on it. I'm sure Paul probably feels the same way. Yeah. Very very very similar feelings on that. You know, it's it's sixty day. Course, you know, it's sort of like getting your degree like you have your degree. But you work in a different field. You know, you're obviously qualified to do one thing. But that doesn't make you that thing. So. So are there different degrees? Then because at what about the guys who spent all we have to E four that never went to ranger school. But they were at regimen. Why were they were they in regiment? Were they when it was hard. Because if they were there when it was hard. Well, what would you call heart when they were the black breath or they got the Tam brace. I don't know, man. You know, I think this is one of those conversations that a lot of people don't want to talk about..
"ranger school" Discussed on Mentors for Military Podcast
"Was it I think it was June or July and she got dropped after Darby phase one back Cam back again went through Darby three times and then ended up going straight through. So I mean, I personally don't think the Sanders changed for her. I think she just had a lot of guts to not give up, you know. And like, I said a lot of people are going to say things, I mean, immediately when I graduated ranger school there is so you know. There's a lot of comments that were made that, you know, there was somebody that said, you know, she even have to do forty nine pushups. I'm like, no, I I apparently not, you know, I guess female standard at ranger school. I don't know. But I don't know that one, but I guess to a lot of people who don't have a ranger tab. That's just how it is. And this is how how it is. You know, we don't know what's going to happen. So you just kind of stake like a grain of salt and move on. So you do I can't imagine how difficult it must be on you guys to they're like you're saying you're trying to keep a low profile. You're trying to make it to where it's not about you guys and just for the record. I mean, I saw it out. Janea wasn't the other way around for this whole podcast. So this episode on this topic because we think it's really important pollen. I have had this conversation. Don, I on separate occasions about women going through ranger school. And we're seeing a lot of the the conversations that are out there. And and that many of you are not trying to make it about yourself trying to keep a low profile. It's more of trying to make a statement about here things that I beam will commanding officer in unit ex that's what that that Instagram profile that page or that post was about but everybo-. Pretty then decided to hone in on who the individual was what they heard and everything else. Just like the there was the first I think enlisted female that just graduated from ranger school. Yeah. And and I'm sure she didn't want anybody to know that she was going to be the first, you know. Yeah. No, she's kept a pretty low profile, and she deleted her Facebook and stuff because she she knew it was going to happen. You know, we all know who are, you know, it's not like this secret when somebody graduates we all kind of keep keeping contact. But you know, like, I said for women who Golkar ranger school. Our mentalities are just very different compared to a lot of other women in the army because you know, we we know what we're getting ourselves into. If you look at the ratio of your graduating class, you know, you have like between a hundred and two hundred male counterparts, and maybe maybe to maybe two other women with you. And so you just have to be very self aware the environment that you're in. And just really what it comes down to that. Most of them don't go to register for themselves. Like, I didn't go to school for myself for film, and it was to lead, you know, as qualifying combat, leadership course to be, you know, an exceptional leader in the arming. You know, that's that's why we go to Rangers. You know, women go to describe can I can say none of us ever said we went for ourselves. Absolutely not because we know that's not what we went especially how how long had a train because my body one hundred twenty five pounds Paul looking at him. It's probably like one hundred eighty in the rain to regiment, you know, so are different body types. And so all of that factors into why we let ranger school and stuff, you know, the challenge of you know, why we go. And I mean, that's an excellent point. And you know, when you think about those that might be heading on into regiment, you know, you think about the physical aspect of it the wear and tear on the body. I don't think anybody really knows for certain the longevity of women in that type of arena because there hasn't been a whole lot of those..
"ranger school" Discussed on Mentors for Military Podcast
"I'm always appealed to me until I in our OTC successful doing ranger like it was it wasn't. As intensive rated not even close is intense under school, but successful all that. And so then there's kind of like it's actually try ranger school. Then you know worth it doesn't work out. Okay. You know? It's interesting though, I mean because as you start going through the the your military career, even after you get out because all of us except for you Jenny era affect with duty now. And so you start getting a different perspective as you get a little bit older and you step away from it. And. I mean, I think there's going to be guys are probably say something Paul, you know, about the fact that await man, you know, ranger battalion. That's where the real Rangers are because those are the only guys that can really claim that title, right? Yeah. That's a good point about. I think I don't know. I don't know if women belong in regiment, but I don't know who belongs in Richmond. Either. I didn't recruit for them. That was never those always about my pay grade. So you know, that have been is not worth much. But like I said as far as leadership opportunities and and military educational opportunities like those obviously cabbage under bias, you know. And I'm surprised that it took us so long to get women into combat leadership. Course, you know, when we're actively engaged in war for so long. I'm kinda surprised and go the other way to be completely honest. And rob I agree with that is that's two different distinct. Things is back to your point even getting into the regiment. You know, that's a whole separate select list at different e floor below when you're coming just coming to army. Six or seven week program. That didn't they select that people if you're an officer that's a loop. I Lieutenant or so you have a selection rate. So there's that's completely different being. Offered opportunity to go to combat leadership course. And I agree with you on that. That's. Yeah. It is. It's completely different. I I like to make the analogy, you know, if you can change the oil in your car, or you can keep it running and going down the road like, you know, pretty good. But you're not mechanic every day. You know? So you can't really call yourself a mechanic, just like, you know, if you ride a horse on vacation, you can't really call yourself cowboy in our just because you have a license to do something just doesn't mean you do it every day. That's why I looked at it. I think at the point of which you came in Jenny ranger school at least in April at that time frame was around ninety five or something like that females at actually tried out or tried to go through ranger school. Yeah. So right now ninety five right now our out about eighty seven eighty seven attempts, and then they just had the twentieth. Seal graduate couple of days ago, actually, you know, and we've talked about this because you know, they're different. You know, you think about we just mentioned ropes and rip and everything else. It could only I don't know. What is it called? Now is still called that you know, it's it's called rasp ranger assessment selection. Okay. So you think about rasp, and that's again meant like Don said to weed out the individuals that are coming into regiments. So it's not just go get ranger school that you're automatically gonna get assigned to regiment. You know, it's going to have to there's a process you have to be selected and for those who claim in which I wanna get into. The ranger school. They lowered the standards and everything else. I don't think regiment is going to be doing that. And you could tell me if you disagree with that. But I don't believe regiments going to be lowering any standards in order to let women get into the regiment. No, I would highly doubt that and regardless even if you lower your standards to get in doesn't mean, you're gonna stay there..
"ranger school" Discussed on Mentors for Military Podcast
"You don't get to eat and you don't get to sleep and not everybody gets to wear the ranger tab. So, you know, obviously, my opinion from pre before the course into the course. And then after the course somewhat kind of it kind of change to view of that. Because what I learned was after you have the tab. That's that's when it all starts. That's when you're you know, in your unit or outside, your unit, everything is judged off of your left your left sleeve. So you're challenged every single day to the table to be the best in your craft. And that's what has as an instructor. That's what I've tried to instill. These guys is, you know, even though if you if you get it, that's great. What if you? Don't you still take an you're still taking things away from? That course that you learned that you can still apply in the unit with hopefully, you have aspirations to come back to it and get it on that topic. I mean pollen I just recently had a conversation around this is well in what we were talking about is that if you look at probably the premier leadership course, in my opinion, and I think Paul you wouldn't disagree with this. It's ranger school though. One hundred percent agree with that. And you know, that story it was sold to me is that this was a combat leadership school, our premier direct action unit in the army Assad force, of course, is Rangers. And you can't be a leader in ranger battalion. If you don't go to ranger school. So you know to me when they start alarm females to go or they opened up the combat arms MOS is to females. I thought everybody was up in an uproar. But thinking about it. How many how many women have we been sending to combat leadership role? So I guess my question is what are the other? What is the other lead combat leadership school in the army? Is there another one because I remember where your leaders course, and a Elsie and be knock, and you know, all those those are not that's how to write accounting statement. And that's how to, you know, keep your house, right? When you're an NCO. So I guess the question to me is, you know, if you had had a daughter or wife, you know, and you're sending her overseas, you know, to be a leader as Lieutenant or as an NCO or something like that. She's not allowed to go to ranger school. So you're willing to send these people they're untrained. So I think it goes beyond gender. It comes to matter force readiness for me. So now, that's kind of my take on it. Jimmy, kind of mentioned a little bit about your background and stuff in the very beginning. Just as a highlight of your bio, but maybe it'll be good for you to talk about your military career because I think at the point at which you went to ranger school you'd spent about two years in the army at that point. Yes, correct sale when it came in the army, I started to live twenty sixteen and then I just started. So that the officer school they asked anybody want to try out for ranger school. Like, I knew ranger school was following previous the two or two women I went through and then even the third at that time, then it was like a almost a year that went by where another woman hadn't gone through the course. And so then there's a captain, you know, really, great and training and stuff. And then. Yeah. So then I decided training ranger school. Were you started training in ROTC as well? Right. Didn't you do some stuff in different types of courses or something along that line? Yes, that's crack. So yeah. It was kinda like the lettuce zome in like doing all that stuff..
"ranger school" Discussed on Mentors for Military Podcast
"Number four him. I l and that was see a ninety. I I hope I said that right? I guess that's a unit and then Jeff Henry. And of course, we have our continued supporter largest donor and that Stephanie Lincoln fire team, whiskey, and we appreciate all of our patrons and the two new ones. And and those it's been with us for a period of time because his through your donations that were able to help carry on this podcast. So appreciate that. So now what get onto this week's episode. So first off welcome to the matrix military podcasts on this episode. We're going to get into a pretty interesting topic around women and ranger school and women and Rangers in general, and this has been a topic. That's been shared by several different discussions, either on podcast offline and Ginny Metzler is a Lieutenant in the army and graduated ranger school back in April two thousand eighteen she was the twelfth female actually to graduate. The course at that time frame on the podcast as well. As Don FOX tan is a member of our cadre of hosts, he's a retired major was enlisted as an infantryman up to e seven before attending CS and commissioning infantry as well he attended Rangers score early in his enlisted career and became a ranger instructor with four as a senior NCO, and then returned to fourth are as a as an officer. And then Paul Martinez who's retired CEO who spent. Seven years in third bat, seventy fifth ranger regiment, and many years of that as a sniper he is the author of the bestselling book when the killer main comes, and then, of course, myself Robert count is a retired US army Master Sergeant who started off in armor, then spent time to recruiting retention, and basically I wanna jump into this. You guys all have backgrounds as a ranger in some capacity, and I think what's really cool about this as you all come from different walks of life. So if you got you know, some of that just attend attended ranger school somebody that's been a ranger and ranger bat. And then you've got somebody. There's a ranger instructor. Don, I know you, and I have had multiple conversations, you know, over the years, especially but here recently around ranger school and some of the comments especially that were made around the females that attended ranger school. So I don't know if you want to kind of talk a little bit about your back history. And when you of course, we're in our I when they were primarily males. And maybe that's a good starting point. Obviously, you're early in your. Career. You know, if you want to advance up and move through and also challenge yourself, there's not a better school than ranger in the ranger course itself. It's a primary tool is a small unit leader. So you're that's that's probably the best leadership school you can attend in a just happens to make it around a recon ambush, and some, you know, physical activities on the way to test your into. Tesla fortitude and also test your leadership abilities. So as you go there early in the career, I really didn't know anything other than that..
"ranger school" Discussed on Mentors for Military Podcast
"Eh? This. Mentors for military podcasts. Hey, guys, Robert and Paul here. And before we get into this week's podcast. I wanted to talk a little bit about our last week's episode, which is the first of two that we actually put together a part one and a part two on women soft and Paul. It was quite interesting all the comments that we got from the first step Assode around special operations, especially special forces and the the first female to complete the special forces assessment, selection, and you know, I'm sure on your page. It was the same as ours. There was a lot of rumors that were flout floating around from supposedly from cadre. Although most of the information that came out that I saw was referencing back to the first females that came through the didn't pass if he s as well as articles that were written by cadre about just a lowering of standards and didn't necessarily mentioned females per se that we're going through the class or training at that timeframe. And they were you know. Five months old there. So so I don't know if you found the same thing the found a lot of that it was sort of an echo chamber of you know, what we saw when the the first female Rangers went through the Versi more candidates went through ranger school. Same old thing you now, you see somebody you don't expect to make it. And all of a sudden these explanation start popping up as to why they didn't. And, you know, of course, always pointed to the standards and the politics, and they pushed them through. And all that, you know, as does a little disappointed because the conversation devolved to some pretty nasty things in now. I don't really care how many sexual partners. I'm soldier has. I don't know what that has to do with the course or write or anything like that. You know, so deleting a few comments. Yeah. I had to do the same thing. And it's unfortunate. But that's just the world that we're in, you know, nowadays in like, you said people come up with all kinds of justifications reason, why somebody shouldn't make it, and we're gonna talk about that a little bit in this episode dealing with ranger school in actually this episode was shot before the episode with the special forces assessment, selection female, and we decided to flip the two we were going to get into this topic. Anyway. SAS SAS or women into the queue in becoming green berets and stuff like that..
"ranger school" Discussed on Tactical Talk with Allison Barrie
"Of our sponsors. So just wanna like the base. Two. We want real. So there. Ranger school story or your targets for you. I don't ring story shooter. Jodi. Okay. Train. You guys vote which when you want what are the options? It's weird. Either of your target weird greater school or we're food of target. Sure. It's not really so much weird. But I fear short by target stores for short. But it was during a VI like over many of you. Vehicle. Doc over in light sort north northwestern. When the helicopter landing for that one of the guys that was jumping off of a sixty like out the door like as we landed the helicopters decided to forget to take off the safety one. And. The best part was that. There was a go pro tillered Roker. There was a job pro right behind and. This is like the guy decides to jump off as they are sort of around the ground, and he jumps off for just take off the safety light threes hooked into low four. After he gets the spended about like six inches above the ground. So it's by no means threatening at all. But just dangling there trying to touch speed down. Which is just extremely ribs. Hanging there like trying to get speed on the ground. But he can't wailing. You know, trying to get into the plight. But eventually did spent of okay, cool. Sorry out there. I was like shoot. How? Know. L? No, dangling weather. And you guys are laughing or just no really noticed It comes. was news about their business in this off like a champ. Like, you know, after like, it's like two or three seconds of dangling really knows. Because. Conclude, but. Pulls his other gets off his take line gets back at the formation moves up to the car. But after the fact like everything would find everything concluded get back to back to light jar home station, back talk and to go. To go protest. Perfect wide angle of this guy to struggle awful like his. So. Unaware also here before and during the missionary pleading super quietly never mentioned a word in the as the go Brooklyn. Wait a second. What happened there, and they go back in the next three months came Joe brought the entire appointment made the video made like all of our like joke like networks and the lead on. As long as I can remember it got may without outside with their skits and everything. He's never lived that down. Hundred percent man running around. Dick. You're okay. Going next. Get me this. Okay. I'm trying to think we're gonna go with this out. Would you just coming over into the light get a little better forward? Tello story. Pat, you'll days I was probably going to Jack's guard. Those evil victims. Nineteen eighty seven. This is. Six. Somewhere between ninety Fatima. Because we lost it ninety nine. Dran those history. But. So we were just come back from. Day rather lackluster combat deployment that was supposed to be eighty ninety four that we were staying out at one time. Obey Cuba sub stories there too. So we go to Panama when we after right after we get back for about a month or two have rotation in the jungles of Panama. And. So we're going through like we do a lot of light reconnaissance stuff. And there's different aspects of the training a lot of like waterborne ops. They're like river Ryan stuff. We're doing one of our movements and you'll hear about. The they were called African killer bees that swarm oh in central and South America like that saw. And even the instructors like one of the guys that are, you know, go through with you down. Jumble. Jumble. Restraining course listened is. This is no bullshit with the beans. Like. It's got to be like a break in contact with you you have to like make of raw like. So. Young. Foodie gaps on we're like reenacting Vietnam care of students. This river crossing allows actually are are like company specific that we had our own cut Buni, gaps made up your cat. I ranger hat is back offense. No ranger school crossing. So we're doing it was only probably waist high. But I'll get that. It's basically like you're you're sending to robes across because one is for Hugh at one of your rucksack kit whatnot. That's heavy. If they're not gonna well on the roads aren't like the actor points aren't erect. They're gonna say. And. Water. Portions of your river troll..
"ranger school" Discussed on SOFREP Radio
"Facility. Putting together the fitness facility now facility. Now had a donor offer some weights and some equal. So a lot of folks donating to come down help out. But Goethe's then commando, and if you want to contact me to come down anytime feel free to help out. But at typical day pretty much as I said, you go to zen command. Check it out. I have the schedule events laid out up there. What we're gonna do each day, and I'm open input in any suggestions to because this is going to change its is going to evolve. Yeah. Yeah. I will not fall in love with it. Yeah. It's gonna change. If someone has a better idea instead of Pathfinder the name of the course by all means I'm excited to see how it evolves from point eight point and the goal. Eventually, I I'd love to have a female a girl commando course, where it's just females come down, and they go through their own type of program of survival skills and just a girl only program a program for youth leadership and survival skills, and then also those outreaches programs for executives teamwork team building things of that nature. But I I really I want. I want to focus on those that sadder transitioning out of the military or they may be going through some. Difficulties coping, right, whatever we've all been there. I don't wanna so the Pathfinder course as like a healing recovery. Therapy. Course, it's it's not. Yeah. I don't want it to be that. It's just tools that you can use your tool kit to to rely on yourself. Yeah. It sounds like it's almost like all now maybe wanna say life coaching, but like lifestyle training, exactly all these principles. Yeah. Here they are fitness. Do these five things, you know? You'll be fine. You know, eating right here the five things do's and don'ts. Here's the principles spiritual awareness. You know, here are the five things, you know, take it from here. There's so many of those things that are like actually they sound simple on the surface. But like scheduling your day. Yeah. Like, that's huge. At least for me. It's it's eighty big right? And that's where it comes into power the habits. Right. And we talk about habits and par of instilling those keystone positive habits is having your day lined out this having those schedule you bents, then thinking about it, the next evening prior is your Gary Queant, laid out. So when you wake up. Up. Everything's there. And the this that all goes into developing those good habits you were saying earlier like gotta get home. So I work out. It's like, okay. Yeah. We can be. Well, that's another thing about special operations guys is we tend to get obsessive about whatever it is. We're into. But I mean having having a scheduled to for physical fitness there. Are there are worse things in life? Sure. Sure. And you've heard the term priorities of work. Yeah. You know in the military, and I'm writing something. Now, I'll probably launch release in a couple of days about my experience at ranger school. When I was young marine. I had an opportunity to ranger school and an amazing experience ranger school. And to me, that's the ultimate leadership. It's more of a leadership school. Yeah. Then learning tactics and. You know, they talk about priorities of work in these things every time you stop at a security hall, you go through these primaries of work, you know, making sure security is out installing everyone making sure everyone knows where they're at the map pass information around and the same thing holds true in life. We're yeah. On the map. You know, you have to know where you're at on the map..
"ranger school" Discussed on 710 WOR
"Well they had many of them going back to project blue burden artichokes and of course the most infamous was m k ultra there was done by the central intelligence agency but i am actually one of the survivors of the one of the lesser known mind control projects called the mind altering research study that was done from nineteen seventythree tonight ninety and a lot of the stuff they were trying to perfect was a no fear drugs i never did find out exactly what the name of it was but after being through it and getting my memory back twenty years later i started to understand that a lot of our guys that went into rangers and special forces and seals the what i call the tough guy schools because they got one hell of a job and they can't have any fear out there when they're in the field on these missions and some of the guys that i met that were former rangers and green beret start opening up to me after they realize who i was and some of the things that we went through in the mind altering research study they went through and army ranger school and some of this stuff was you know like that tv show fear factor i'm thinking heck we did that and they're now they made a show out of it and you know some of the stuff they did i know telling people these stories over the years i find the people get more traumatized than i do you know when i started getting my memory back and i just didn't know if you've ever heard any of the things that they did what you mentioned that i'm sitting here looking at it online right now and no this was this was new to me but the ideas the fear factor piece ties into this it's basically combating what your natural protective mechanisms are meant to be it looks like to me and it looks like there was a lot of illegal stuff that happened in the midst of that that should never have happened to some of.
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"In iowa in the military on line on four their way to harry ranger school and a couple of weeks they're out in the field right now this is all they do it becomes muscle memory you only have to think about it it's like riding a bike you know what to do when you hear that boom boom boom boom it's a gunshot wound are two people it's all at semi automatic fire it's coming from the next building unit you get to recognize the sound of weaponry filing firing in rapid fire or not and you have a better sense of your own position what to do next but it's it's it becomes just muscle memory yes absolutely agree with you we need more of that and as wild though i grew up with him delayed fire drills which were a pain in the neck we are none of us like the fire drills i i think once someone called in a bomb threat at the school but it was summoned playing a prank gotten a lot of trouble but we never never thought about this had more guns in connecticut then we have now a less strict gun control in connecticut than we have now we had none of these things let's go to mike in indiana on line four mike the award uh on the transportation director and a maintenance director for a small stool ruin the anna and we have a resource officer um own staff it is a county the county sheriff's department comes in with the one of their guys during the week uh they spend the eighthour day there um but all they have to do all we have to do is protect our kids and we have a fully acre campus when we have our um uh school who had a melamed three in with a high allies school in that same campus and your kids get out play in the in the playground wants to say somebody doesn't uh set out there on the front page road in when the kids come out four sniper i say uh kindergarten recess in little room or go in school and pull the fire alarm and what the kids are on the parking lot you vehicle and they and they run over ten or twenty or thirty kids are uh we can't poor kids in a.