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Jose Ramirez vs Viktor PostolLive Fight ChatFor Ramirez's WBC/WBO 140LB Title

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Jose Ramirez vs Viktor PostolLive Fight ChatFor Ramirez's WBC/WBO 140LB Title

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And Ramirez put forward pressure to the body by. Postal. Postal stand right there in the pocket Ramirez Ramirez got those dillion white boots. Let's hope they don't give them any bad luck. Jab by postal good jad to the stomach by postal. Combination pivots out. Jab again by postal. Starting to get the range already early on going to have to get around that job. If you WANNA make this competitive, he can't stay at the end of that punch. But. He knows that. Stepping. Forward and she. Ramirez changing a little bit looks I'm GonNa Break Out The scorecard APP gentlemen. Students. I can tell things are gonna get a little bit fishy. Let's called judge cars does caught. Judge scorecard. Yet Romney. You. So far. Looks like the temple right now is being set by Ramirez. Postal real good ring general, deaf. Oh he going over extend his shoulder like that what the hell. Oo Left Hand Lands by Ramirez Inside Short Shot Ramirez. Really postal on his tech Cuando feet. Double that Fook. Ramirez starting to. Go, big left Hook. Romero's point more pressure but. Post Whoa. Good. Jab I remember Anna Body Bodyshop by Ramirez with a left Hook. Didn't take long for Ramirez to heat up POSTAL TRIES TO JAB to the body misses and gets combination punched by a two piece by MS goode Jabbai postal. Better get back on it because that is landing. But it looks like maybe maybe he's tentative does he feel like Ramirez Time Does Jab already know it's it's it's the coming out the gate. Hot You know got victor a little bit you know flustered by. From just. Got Ramirez on that one for that round. Yeah. I like the way the postal went up and down You know listen. It's difficult Brown. Ramirez picked up the pace at the end of the round. But I feel like postal control the first two minutes of that Brown. Yeah could agree with that. It was the range but then you you see Ramirez just quickly just turned up the gas on them. Started making him a really really. Yeah backfoot. uncomfortable. You know. But I'm just saying. Postal did a lot of good work. In the first two minutes at around. Excuse me. If you watch it on Youtube, don't forget that thumbs up and we're trying to get to one hundred, sixteen thousand tonight. Right now we're at one hundred in to the five people that insider. In between here, and there we definitely lost to. Now we on one, hundred, sixteen, thousand we just need a measly hundred and ninety seven more people not a lot. We can do that tonight. Let's get it done. That's cool and all that I finally got ESPN plus up on my ipad logged, and but some reason, my smart TV was outsmart by my apple ipad because it was so easy to just log in and get in the APP man how do I get the APP on the? Turn your audio. We slightly hearing that the SPN, but we got a good little back and forth fight here. Over mirrors a good right hand post to. Postal starting to come apart. Oh. Nice job I posted PEPs head long yeah. Ramirez Charles accounted at one hundred postal through hook. Ramirez is Mexican right yeah. Definitely fighting Mexican style and they're taking one given one. And postal comes in pretty. Comes in pretty aggressive, but if postal warm up I mean he's got the better boxing skills at least is using his jab better than Ramirez. But he's gotTa Keep Ramirez off like he's he's not really putting anything on those punches a postal is. Posted Jabeen. He's select. Ramirez our work himself. Maybe. Because you know it's always pace right. So always about Control Postal Looks Control Ramirez just looks Tam. Shot. Down hurt that hurt memorize needs the note that hurt. ooh Oh but that was low. Now he bent the Mo- sort of ref complained about leaning on his bat. Okay. Danny? Even know post was Ukraine. Now Just, thought you knew. He's bouncing around man is just the I think he's he's just not effectively countering backman off those. That you go. postseason little tired is just me bro He's breathing are. Ready for this as listen, not everybody jumps out first round and puts the pace Ramirez on. Usually they went to five six to pick up pick it up Ramirez coming in hot. Oh Good John Muir as a shot. He's he's controlling the center of the ring. Policies. Do More that jabbing because he's he's he's definitely keep. Popping Ramirez Look Good Stab Jab right did. See. That's what I see a lot of pop and from a victim Postal Ramirez, just bouncing around land. Heavy shots. Around heavy still. Around for postal in my opinion he. Already Roach. So yes. Postal he used to trae Ramirez remembers left from for Robert Who's across the corner. That's fine man that's kind of like like on good terms hope but it will feel awkward right 'cause you gotta still. I know how he's like I know what's he like like Freddie Roach knows Ramirez. Think he sees signs who proudly yeah I got it. One want to everybody. Got It. The same Assefa Duck city got postal up to show. He must be a bud fan. So what you're doing I g story right now cash. Now, man I'm on my ipad watching the fight fight. And I G I got a put on ESPN plus on the web browser on my television. Aw Man. I think I had some started, right? To minute forty, a lot of people chat got it to Oh for postal. Ramirez. Better step it up. To Wolf. Yeah. They gave him first and second what you mean to. Oh. Yeah. I. I. Missed the first I gave second postal. Look someone already seen it better not rob postal damn. Find any I know rocky both those two premiers. Looking See. Ramirez keep it up though he gotTa keep this pace still ten rounds ago. He thrown the heavier punches, but he's landing like three of them where posters during the boxing jabs and you know the but that's all he's doing his job in A. List. I looked site posters Got Him ahead, he just landed another ooh to peace right there I'm behind you. The whole. Ramirez Chase. Oh. Oh Ramirez Ramirez. Though. Okay China counter. He, changing the levels to Udi cannot get their left to the body. Post. Not. The night chant, we watch the tape on you. took him ahead of you guys Cow Postal Flip that jab into a uppercut. Center the ring who just let a left Hook Rip Ramirez missed. Another one. He missed a lot. We own sink probably. What else we? Now one. Fifty nine. Fifty Fifty seven. I'm slightly behind you them. Right hand by Ramirez, on the Inside Ramirez not as accurate as postal postal, really only land in the man I gotta be real good bright hand by Ramirez followed by left and now a JAB and uppercut. Walking postal down. That's a lot of pressure on postal man. On. His forehead. Well. Yes. Fight is on ESPN plus and if you haven't already done, so subscribe to the Youtube channels the third light Fi chat we've done day we did Laura Getty Dubois Schneider's, and now we're here with post style versus Ramaema's for the WBZ and the WB Oh junior welterweight titles. I could see. Jose. You. Jose your Ko he looks like Kale. Yeah eat definitely would go for it if you hurt. He looks like. The K. on my par lay. But. You're going to do. Look it. Basil cut man promoting himself. Young He's lying at Jab straight down through the middle as. You can get a replay right now. That jabeen on point. That's what I got it to one to Ramirez. The Workhorse. Freddie Roach a big mask. Titus. Can't even have a volume up. His glasses don't five. Check. Got This round Chin. But you got this risk less one. To Romero's. Postal. He's only he ain't even the right hand. Go my man throwing all jibes look. Cabinet he jabs and pivots when the pressure comedy Jibes, he'll clench pivot like he when he goes some rights in it. Yeah. He got to listen to Mike. Tyson. Never just adds. That's why that's why question to you is he trying to maybe take Ramirez late look just all jab in like left hand. With football players, do Stefan's that's all doing stiff arming. Got Ramirez all these rounds. Ryan. Damn. I think. Postal. Donya. Patter to. I just marriage the knock him out. So, this bready bread. But postal like. Okay. Kinda rainbow though he getting a gr he way more aggressive. Now you're chasing Triple Double Jab postal but I mean I don't know why he only let in a jab go like, Gimme some more. Got Me like bus style. Eka. Ramirez Ramirez He's not afraid of jump in man take a risk. Postal. Is. Just. Not. He's not reacted well to that pressure man he's himself to iceman. He Won't put Ramirez on. Ice. Now the Jab I'll tell you that he did a short one through good right answer the body by postal back on jam. Now that's what I'm talking about. But he got to let the right goal man now eight go tripled up the DUB the job they're painted it up and down. One fifteen on a time clock thirteen, twelve, one eleven. Fourteen. Three seconds behind we all we all about you behind me. I'm behind me as all that means whatever do Miss eye-catching interview get a you've got it. All posted just age from Ramirez poses trying to host corn pivot out. But he's not he's not the stronger fighter. He's not the stronger, but I just see more clean punches from him. I see no like ABS- from him. Yeah. Jabs. I see punches landing let warmer and going to the body He. A. I'm seeing Ramirez Punches, but I, see. I see Ramirez missing a lot like. Saying big and it's twenty two seconds this opposed to round for me. But it's easily Ramirez round. Suk they go. and. One to it could have been them around Ramirez landed a big right hand in the beginning. But postal, there's been a high pace from the rip Man Ramirez Making a high pace and that's what he looks like he's about to do. He looks he's busy but he's not landon. Not Busy. Land supposed our for me. A. Narrow Miras Complaining Thirty, eight thirty eight. Damn. OVER MIRA's. Colo.. Latin bias now. Is Happening. I'm what you my. Oh. About it was. Undisputed Champs in the modern four belt. Area. Jemaine Taylor. Jemaine. Four belts over the at holding up to WBZ's. Game playing. Postal. One that lasts for me. That's it. Then trae said you got a twelve nothing Ramirez. WHO A to me He said, do we got it twelve ever mirror? She says, she says, I got thirty eight, Thirty, eight man. drowsy. Bro. I could see that being a drowsy so far. Round and postal been on his back foot. By Romero's. He don't want making a fight. So I could see a ref judge in a judge scoring way. Do Me is some some some aps I mean judges light. Aggression man that come forward aggression year but they got to also include landon you know. I mean Post Post Malone. Post Post really doing that. Because polls malone. postals boxing well. He is boxing well, yeah he's. He's looking at. Anna left. Only. He landed a piece of by. Oh another one to the face. Oh, another postal round he put. Oh, they are go I'm night right they're SORTA two twice he put a Nissen Banke. Yeah I'm like, and I'm like in this postal, it looks like he's got his ranging constantly trying to bite. You got he got to keep doing what he'd been doing get on. A beat. Can't be out there with them long as opposed to. Ou want to want to buy postal. There we go. This is definitely way when you went into the. Ramirez with like a one, two, three, all streets. Keeps them at the end of the punch is going to be in trouble Ramiro needs to cut those arms man cut that this is. Some I don't know why out he gotta get in Oh Jad the mob. Ban. Ramirez using them legs well, man. He's making a big as ring for i. mean excuse me postal using the legs while making a big ring for Ramirez. Got Up the corner. Again. He's his dad. Oh, he just took one right there. Damn Ramirez landed his own good jab on postal right there. Maybe need to try to do that more. Come in with that job. He got to get his head off that lawn. Why ain't even like Oh my God? Oh my guy, he get hit with a lot one, two's now it's definitely posted around. Nice Body shot at the end thereby. Skis for Miras but Postal ski postal warmed up. He turned up every round now. That's the second postal round in a row for me. Call. Got It in the bag. Jamal Hurry. Post a winning this fight just based off the commentary. I didn't even look at that round just to hear what was going on and. Sound like postal won that round two. I could imagine what it looks like one to jab over here I. Want. To Jab. Jab Jab Jab Jab. Jab, Jab? Jab. Post I'm, GOING TO CALL YOU JAB face. Oh Cuando coil. Face Oquindo nationalities of Quinto for Regan. Puerto. Rico. Dominican. Poll, alum all Columbia. Definitely Puerto. Rico. or He Puerto Rican? Out. I wasn't going to say he now, Hungary and he definitely looked like he puerto, Rican Colombia Dominican. Did. Got It five over mirrors. S Cacique Pena what he doing? Wow. Now. But these last two I had to give it. I had to give them to their swing rounds to in here you know. Styles. Judging man. Cash, yeah. Somebody's ain't no way postal ahead you wiling and I got I got postal up forty, eight, forty seven man I better stock. Cash somebody say you from Byron Whereas that. Sale. Postage is Just Jab the hell out his face. He took his own little stiff. Body shot by Ramirez with the Left. I. Think it's pronounced. Oh, my God. Andrea. Ramirez up. He only he only gave postal one round. Okay Andres. He gave them. Risk. So he watching the different fight like this camera angles I'm seeing Ramirez not land clean. You know I'm seeing more postals Jabs in effect. Posts who returned way more jobs than than Ramirez don't punches. And that's what have me dinking that post do is doing his. Job On defense postal is ma'am tongue. He better, he not letting Ramirez land to flush Mer. This is a big win for Ramirez. rhianna partially landed for Ramirez. What titles? They said, they said, they said. The Bradley said Dray trip? Now's a cush short right hand by Ramirez may postal clinch. Your S Andrea could docomo. Andre Code Chant. Andre said that. Oh, Andrea War. Yo but. This is a big fight full Ramirez right does he cry and that's how big this fighters. But he was you know he gonNa cry of him when. Definitely crime win. Your funny off. He keeps missing overhand, right Ooh. That right there okay it was the. Ramirez, gone for it though. Definitely. Swinging. He still has. To get him out of here. Yeah. He's still swinging like he has energy. which is good. A good sign stamina. Damn. Six over mirrors for CYP. Recently, yeah we post somebody posted on Prepo Robert Garcia fighting somebody and he landed he was sitting down looking up. Rather mayweather thing or somebody like that. Says Somebody said. You gotTA respect, central. Americans. Chair. I do I say that because I say 'cause Okuno look like he from Central America as dishes back. Man Come on they said they just called you a cool aero. Kudo. Your own. A snake. Hey. Okay, you made a lot of any kind of laugh I that's it. Sound like a snake. Good. Who Read? The newer. What is it though? I'm GonNa tell you right now. That is round right hot right now in the seven frown ooh Ramirez is caught him with a hard right Is turn-up start. Up. C.. Like. Ramirez looked like he from Honduras you know what I'm saying. Yeah, right or wrong. He Mexican right now. Yeah. He Mexican. Right now but Samal, he might be Honduran. Oh postage just hit him with a right Oh Ramirez on the right on the inside the F. O., postal? Clinton. Okay. I'm behind you Dan, but you ain't count that little over member shovel Oh postal card on with the overran Ramirez with the over punch. and. Then they go back to postal one two. He got the stock. Punch the Jab but he hooking me uppercut and with that left, he jabeen Oh. My God. That left hand just put postal on Queer Street. Let's see overmars. Snow. Of missed it. Let me see if I. See it. See if we can finish. He he's a finisher also in. All out. Man Postal. Got The wills break gummy. Do Me do me my? And then we know the what the You know the future but right now posted still hanging in there. Now, you'll see two wills. He's not he's he's on his. Move Yeah. He did eat now moving member overhaul core man judges how he Got The judge is not going to give them to fight like that man not this round knocking give round. He actually look like Keith determined right now. No. Keith don't look like that. No I'm not saying I'm not saying every fight keep and there's rounds that keeps them returns sit is. Now. He looks like that against Collazo he did that against pack yeah. And then he composes themselves. So let's hope the same for posted. But Dan Post E. Does Definitely Ramirez round. Postal has added show posted chat. Bra Ramirez Bet to be careful co Ramirez coated with the once again. Since, he can't hit them. Who Handle. Postal, Ramirez. He can't stop. Yeah. But when he stepped in with that, Jab impressed it on his look all that sure man. Oh. was. Jan.. Quartermaster stumbling. Had Him step out. Still finished. Eighth out he. would. Tender. Put. Two ounce isn't it? The ratio was? Replay four Tom. China it exciting right now, that was a hard shot. Damn Man I miss look short but he going to work. Definitely. Working. Get. Go go step in four inch and four. Ramirez forward pressure attack. He kind of has that on Google Caveman look. Na. Na Na he chant ain't got that indigenous Caveman Indian. Chests. Nana Wagon. Yeah. So good flew over the CUCKOO's nest. was that what's that where? Why? He Ain't Going inside. He taken that step back. Oh good body shot left to the body by Ramirez. The Laura I. I Ask Your and Oklahoma Point Asi Yulon gender. Caz Easy going on right now But really la La Nina had to say put so. Jab. Damn another left by. Her, search postal. Post. He. Oh. He found some. Back on a bike. On that bite, he got his mind rollerblading. Land is do just circle out circle out. That's not how you cut the ring on. This is crazy. You know what I thought that postal was waiting for my man who get tired but he's not getting tired. You know postal getting tired waiting for Vermeer's to get tired were. He's not he put it all into that level you seen it. Mesli seem. He. See a lot of that is where we see. Again he missed him yeah. And do judges take away because of that you know. Right, now, talking postal. I just. Postal postal just lost the leave for me I. Don't know what you're talking about. He went around since four or five. Maybe since six. that's why as. You might you might be right five, I would say five. Spent high pressure and high pressure. down. Ramirez keeps landing the left hand. as He. A gay he eats against success with that up now. Pow He's GonNa cut the ring off to. Ramirez. Cash they ask if you had a hotel Tim O. Short level. Schimmel batty about the down my laptop. Postal doing his little movement with his head. Still catching harsh shots though by Ramirez Liquor. Well well, well, TJ says postal win and Brian Thousand emojis laughing. He said No. Postal winning top rank don't want him to win. They ain't give a postal replay yet. Postal gain is head. Straight up smacked up. Look Band Doma. Bam Straight to your face. Later, we based the whole fight off to highlight Reel Ramirez winning they gave postal zero highlight reels. Because he ain't winning. They Promote Ramirez. Nobody in the Ukraine watching boxing like that. Not Coming out maybe coming up I remember I triple g TIPO, gene. That's causes stomach yeah. Ache they. They come out though Lohmann Chanko Esi from your. Crane he's from Ukraine he from Cranston, they step out found. I Smith Ramirez taken his round all of your he like. He. Likes He's staying on outside Rabbit Pie was a yo you You have man relax relax now we're going box. And he landed a job. He's got to go in like he's been this whole time Ramirez, may he can't sit there and try to rain fine Ramiro I, mean I just too good at Beckenham. Where he's, he's got to keep the pressure on me can't stay on outside China box postal. Postal starting to get comfortable this around. We've got to go forward they center the ring post on his little Cuando fee. He starting to Pop Ramirez what his job. Rumors. Got Step in there like he has been starts making. A firefight. Not a one fight fight fight. One. Forty. Division Man. Looked like this, they look and kind of light right now. Dan Brown opposed to. Now Broder in his weightman. Thirty, five, forty, thousand, forty, seven. Yoda the bookies be knowing but they knew it. But that that distance was like what one might mine is one fifteen. Could Jazz Folk by. Postal. He tried to hooking up a kite aiming get it off. Hook I mean the back of the head. Looks like right now starting to count the last minute of the knife Brown I'm fifty, forty, nine, forty, eight seconds left in the nine. Am Six seconds ahead of you. WBZ W bill. Titles Online. Is Ramirez going to be defending. Asking for a rematch is you finished or as you done. Chris roof of roof Chris. Chris Room he the way you got the beef. Damietta. Fifteen seconds left of the nine frown guys closing off smashing each other with jabs. Cam. Ramirez. Get another post another hooker like stoppage people questioning his power now. See the chat like he can't stop me thirty six years old. Well who stopped Ramirez? I mean who stop postal Nobody, right the terrorist got. Six thirty six. So what that means next potential opponent just for. Book Brooke reportedly offered around one point five, million dollars. Yo Amando. Never the moves up for w featherweight title fight faking boxing on. Fire Ruben. Vacant. Asteroid make the Landau declined fight here because they try to pay Jesse punk money like come on Bro they try to give Jesse I think two hundred and fifty thousand meanwhile should recall guy pay four, hundred, thousand, four. Can. On TV. Yeah but. They'll be spreading love right over there. 'CAUSE Magdaleno already was Saying but I guess they see. No upside in them and more should call good stab Jabbai postal. You know all the show at the end of the day right. So the production company being the promoter. They gotta put together the The star that produces the most attraction and Asha cost. Stevenson. Yeah postal never been stopped but he's also four years older than when he fought Terence coffees thirty six, he's got more miles on and people you know expected Ramirez could have done that because of his style. He just had a one to successfully Land Ramirez. He the. Tonight is postals Jab Bro. Definitely. Circle in the ring. Now, it looks like Ramirez you know slow down just a bit. He's looking like You know he's being more careful walking in he's not making it a rugged fight A. Mistake is the heat cutting off the ring Bro. Right. Do you see this as a draw? I see could be in being a draw. Ramirez. Show. It just feels like I. Mean I mean it could be a draw for me. I got it eighty six, eighty five. So it could be could be a draw. Excuse me ninety, six, hundred, ninety, six, ninety, five it could be a draw you know. I just see Ramirez doing a lot of moving a lot of aggression like moving forward and punching, but I don't see him landon effective. As Posters Jab is very effective. Keeping. My man away from him eighty, six, eighty, five as my school. Not Ninety, six, ninety, five. Mistake Gauge. Stitch. Ramirez smashes Taylor really I mean maybe doesn't have the this postal style postal out here on ice skates right now. Call you. Katie. Taylor. I'm yawning man. Yeah. Now we. Knew Yanni cause you. Make it into that, but he ain't accurate tonight Oh. Good. Leifer by Ramirez. He's chasing for a man postals, not giving it up that easy. lanna oh, manages hit a spend aroo there. Oh and postal was waiting for him with a braehead. Ramirez got lucky at his hands up boy protect yourself at all time. Call on my through too much into that punch. I could see drummer man 'cause it's getting tight his getting. Tight. Or mirrors running away with it in this lay, it depends on how you judge in. You know what I'm saying I haven't ninety, six, ninety, four now Ramirez. I stopped. You stopped scoring. Step. Scarlet. Man. Dan Up. Call me I, score off the I. Man. Komi same on this one. So remain. Do like the roundhouse against the Roe. Was, doing a spinning back fist. M me. So data took away appoint. People got postal up. How many? Few people but point points, I meant points. I got I. got her marriage man definitely taken away win on this one. Like. Are you gonNA, fight on the back foot but not like this. He's moved more than he's landed. Yeah, he's been back foot all night, and if that that takes points away, he's definitely a behind scarred. He be moving on the back foot, but he got it just throw more effective lands. By postal. Ramirez been taken over since the six round to me maybe even a fifth. They got ninety, seven, ninety, three, Andre scorecard. Andre only gave three rounds the post. That's it. I gave postal. Two. Three. Four rows so far. They ain't gonNA. Get on knockout though look at that. Distance. They went the distance. To distance make cards. We. We probably could have expected this right from marriage and postal. Nobody ever of daddy would have went the full. CLENCH. Work their. Postal still got years on his career left man if a guy like Ramirez can't get you out of there and Crawford Stop You. He GonNa keep winning some fights man. Is Not taking super damage either and a guy like Ramirez. That's what he dishes out. So yeah I'm impressed by the by the way he's keeping himself away from. From the hard shots. Ramirez is A. I mean, he slowed down a little bit. Wants to buy. Didn't Odyssey the slow down on Ramirez I mean I just see you know consistency of accuracy. He's constantly inaccurate. WHAT THEY STOPPED Ramirez I mean pay tape take post to Aref now he likes Yo Yo stop it for my tape like what the hell and the beverage listened. Crazy. Mama's mobile in a corner lot of who happened. Damn, he was about to hit him with the upon see Nagy Judo. Throw. Rest stops. It. Here we go. Over right missed by postal he throws another one they engage really violently right now postal lands right hand Ramirez walks right through it like butter. Remembers like three shots go right there. Knock out box Work for postal. Guess he's got him winner. Got A lot of people were marriage though man. Mirrors is the one that's been controlling the pace if you ask me. No. I wonder what the coroner saying right now I know Robert Garcia's probably comfortable right now. See One hundred seven hundred D Ramirez. Why chain? Watching this on Youtube, don't forget the hit that thumbs up in helps with the visibility shows GonNa put this show in is about the boxing fans and let them know that there is a safe haven where we watch all fights together. Together. Call them in the weather I got it seven quattro full your man postal. On L. Though 'cause Ramirez is up on my score CAU-. Dan You just took them down a curve. Ball Baby. A lot of people got Ramirez. When I see, I see a lot of people watching. Sevenfold man. Yeah So we giving credit to bud for this for this postal winner where. If you'd like what you see from postal I. Guess you will. Who did it better Ramirez or Terence Crawford. Definitely Crawford. Crawford got to knock down. Can't remember. At least one night. Oh. By the stains right hands after two minutes left of the twelfth around in a twelve round contest. and. We've made it to the last round Bro. Trey say why also said? It was that. Night I'm just tired already. I think it's just a it's the food. Is the I had a little headache early I'm not even gonNA live. Man. But I mean again, we're getting a good fight. This has been high paced Oh man right hand left handed a potty by. Ramirez. Those like marriage saying, okay it's time to go all out. What the Hey? Or they they saying Taylor got to knockdowns on him to Josh. Taylor? Dan. Ramirez might be one of them guys where he he gets to win but he looks better with the high ups you know postal even though he's a decent fighter was considered like. A guaranteed win for Ramirez. He wasn't expected to upset the unification. Unification undisputed between Ramirez Taylor. So we reached the last thirty seconds of this twelve around contest. Urge what up serves ready to get up in Bortles, you wanNA piece, a machine gun. Or the Army Guy? Oh surge what up. All Right fifteen seconds left. Let's go loud gentlemen. Let's see what they got in the gas tank left who's GonNa take the extra. Oh ooh postal hits back in handmade. Why Oh he let y'all talk you sensitive F. after the fight. Yeah postal raising his hands like he like he wanted show raising his hands punching a he think-i one. what am I missing I? Mean you know boxes think they always out buys? We got to see what happens. You know it's going to be off proposal to get that window because. You rarely see judges score for God. It's on their back foot like that. He was going back foot forever move. And Tree says on the Super Chat. One thing I know. Ramirez. Better. Stay at one forty laughing EMOJI. But cake. Offer any of the Te'o, well to or the true welterweight. as Cupcake Lil emoji he put their little bud cake. This Bud's for you. I mean they got some good highlights postal. But I don't think it's enough. To highlights enough. Is enough chant. The. Whole fight. I mean. Allies phone. They have like one or two highlights. The rest is just it was Ramirez all day. Make an ugly. I mean look how far how far apart do you put this fight you know it's like close as it You know is it? Close. At one, four, one, sixteen, one, twelve I you know. How I? Feel real sad for all of those guys that bit on postal they're looking at the camera right now like hey. His. Other than. Yeah I don't know wh. Okay, fight is over. Fight is over champs hundred, fifteen, two, hundred, thirteen, Andres gold. Card. Yeah. My Man Jeff. Got It. One sixteen twelve. This goatee. Same thing I got. B. S. Postal one. What are you looking at? Jason Sosa Boxing I. Hear You. That's Jason With J. Lo. J.. Wa I. Got the right optometrist. What what are we doing? Let's tally tally was to scorecard will be. What's the tally tally called tally? He won the blades the Bali. Then, some people think the fight was mia the total. Aid Us. where it was look mad sometimes, you don't know you want that Ko you guys know how to nullify certain things you ain't getting champ. Chat. With Dude is running man. And he did this will. Say he was he sparked Devon. Super Chetty I, read it champion. Champ. CHAMPA lamp this bud cakes for you. All right. Here we go. Referees both fighters hand see who hanged get raised. Tampa Champ. It's better be no crazy scorecard. Call. You know crazy scorecard. You think but destroys Ramirez. Away. Okay Ramirez. Wins. Champi chant. Jarred majority decision. Ramirez Ramirez. Ramirez. Saul. Everybody who thought postal one and. I'm saying I know it's bad for you. You know what I'm saying but. So Jose Ramirez gets the win and. Dan Look at them belts probably look fresh. He strapped up strapped me up chance. And now now they show jazz table. All all the Jose Ramirez. Phaetons hitting me up. He smashes Taylor and destroys Crawford. Go. y'All we out, catch the mall where we going to do. We're GONNA do the Douro we go recharge the batteries I know right now we're probably sound like we in the twelfth gas. Crow, day piece. Bacon we Bacon Crow Pies Fiat Tomorrow A

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Strat no mention that lenient but I receive even numerous press releases. ESPN shutout ESPN. Being the first one to send me something eleven fifty nine being. I got sending the box shortly after Kelly Swanson shortly after you know what was said. check it was so many people it was like four people ESPN CBS. Everybody's on it a check the INSTAGRAM's everybody's on it. This is what I like to see. Now Look we can't pat their back too much because they took a little bit of time to announce it but I liked it fury posted it. I like that on Fox. Posted the premier boxing champions posted it. deontay wilder posted a press releases. Were sent now. I'M NOT GONNA get overly excited because we were promised something you know huge and I contacted Bob. I'm waiting for the answer back. Is He available for the day Speaking of interviews we will have J. D. whereas the trainer deontay wilder We'll have him on today. A reached out to representative. PBC But he's at the Devante Davis way in so you know we will have anyone from but we are trying to get deontay wilder trainer and we should good have them without a doubt maybe around four fifteen. I'll go ahead and make a post for all my patriots case you want to access deontay wilder trainer something yourself. I also reached out to mark. Breland see if we can get him on the show once he reaches out. If we're on long enough I'll get all those guys on men just. I'm just happy we. This is official and I'm happy. The announcement finally came no more guessing. It's over no more. No more darn is over. It's time to get this despite and finally settled a score once and for all who's better bragging rights no more doses. No more bombs. This settles it all February twenty-second mgm. Grand Las Vegas is at the garden. So there's not a cheap seat in the house and I mean a cheap like in bad not not cheap as low priced. I mean there's not a bad seed announce when you had the garden so definitely a good thing that is going to be at the garden arena. Obviously the anti while the forty to win one draw come into Tyson fury and You know he's forty one and he's got forty one knockouts right. So Tyson and Fury Twenty Nine and one draw twenty nine and I looked at that today wants this was an online. Wow this guy like sixty six percent knockout ratio. uh-huh you can really tell that he just knocked out Schwartz but I don't think we have a label them as a punch but over fifty is decent punching power. So let's get to some fantastic quotes We do have some quotes. Oh you hear you hear coaching career. Okay I speak it. BELIEVE IT receives speak it. Believe received speaking from the Nova speaking dot com tainted band. Seco his shot miss to stand over. Now grab one on in the building. Let me check my instagram. I might be at me calm. You buy the choke them from your Yo Yo yo Yo. When I went up and shot to everybody out kabibi universe backward another man the moment we all been waiting for Manda moment when it's GonNa happen announcement we got one? Maybe not the the announcement that we wanted knowing that we were promised or something different known saying about a a global Press conference streamed everywhere. And that's still could be the case but I wanNA take my hats off to the guy who said it was going to be this week. He didn't miss any words. Frank Warren with Frank. Warren says something about Tyson theory. I'm pretty sure you can start to the bag man frank. Last time the fight is going to happen. The first it's going to happen footwear. Eighty talking about is going happened last week. That will be announcement this week. And what did we get we got it may MGM Grand Through Twenty second biggest fight heavyweight way boxing the one versus two best versus best. WBZ title on the Line Ring Magazine Online. Everything of a graphic. I'm ready your here man. I'm definitely ready like I was telling them in. The garden is the perfect spot for this. Not a bad seat in the house if anybody's at least been to the garden for the weigh INS You know how good that is is just the economic by which we are where and I was on the second row beautiful I. I had a clear view of the rain. You know I I if I was like seven foot tall like within iffy talk I could probably like some but the view was perfect. Nonsense it was not a bad thing in the house at all. Now man good location. Good location just. I need to say though you know. santee Molin Oh boy in Dallas Cowboys Stadium. Treat it to the handicapped person a little bit better than got Demi. MGM DID I. I can't say that though. Now you right. But that's also that's also so because T. mobile win in Dallas newer facilities. MD MGM is pretty old facility. Probably wasn't ready but all all in all happy. This finally got announced man to get it over with in terms of the doubt. We're we're a little bit. What what are we? Five days short dance with seven weeks right seven weeks out seven weeks out his five days short of the twenty second with seven weeks out Bro. We weeks out from the twenty second eight weeks starting today. Starting on this Friday it is is eight weeks to the twenty first eight weeks out for full trying to count and hopefully we get a eight week run of nothing but wow very publicity. Oh Sanders platter everywhere. I mean digital publicity. I don't think with the with the limited amount of time that they got for training camp. There's no time for promotion. I don't think they're gonNA pull them from promotion ocean for press conferences or multiple city. Press tools I think Bob Arum an think down on the first time finals and they don't see the need or during the press to which I think it makes for good entertainment knowing Sam Goo Goo good visual excitement for the fans but at the same time it it is Kinda close a weeks out and with traveling in just going back and forth. It makes it. You know if you don't WANNA lose it don't make sense you know you don't WanNa be on the road you want to get right into camp with this one but we're GONNA go to Deontay. Wilder quotes says says. I'm happy and I'm excited that the rematch is finally happening. I want to give the fans what they want to see. I've been doing it with my last. It's three outings fury Brazil and Ortiz. They've been spectacular. Vince from my ring walks to where I got to where I got all the the energy of the people to my uniform that I wear to help spread that energy then I give them what they come for the knockout. All my knockouts have been amazing. Approve myself the first time and I'm ready to do it again. It was a very controversial fight and I promise my fans is that there won't be any controversy with this one. I'm going to finish it. Thoughts love the companies. I love the fact that he's adamant data that that he wants to rent aside whatever controversy that people deem or seem to be out there you know what I'm saying so I think that the from confidence of a love what I'm hearing from just sheer competitive level. I love it even more light bro. y'All thank you to the mall fucking did a good job. I get them back to rain on my show. Yeah I do too so from a competitive standpoint. I love it. Shout out to fury and top bring wanting to face the best. Now we're GONNA fury. There's no more more ducking the date has been set in the bomb squad is about to be securely detonated and the Real Champion crowned as the world watches on for the most anticipated fighting years. This is unfinished business for me. But come February twenty-second the second disc. Dasa will finally get what's coming to him and I can't wait now. I've seen other calls where he talks about knocking in him out. There's another quote somewhere not on this press release. Another ocean tipped off. There's another way talks about knocking them out. But I actually Wanna go go to Wilders G. 'cause he posted his own so let's see what his words were but yet and if you're watching us on Youtube don't forget to hit that abundance of the visibility to show it helps us grow and Yemen. It's a it's a way to put this show in front. The the eyes of others This way we get new and exciting characters that can call onto the show saw so On wilders post which I'll screen ship. He has the wild world championship. The chip fury to you know all the information there And then obviously it says after February twenty-second there will be no unanswered questions. I will finish what started and this time. Tyson fury at the Gypsy King will not be getting up off the canvas so quickly of proving myself of Salmon Sam again and I will do it again in February tickets for wild fury to Hashtag while the theory too at the MGM. Grand in LAS. Vegas go on sale tomorrow. Oh twelve twenty a at ten. Am Pacific Standard. Time has tech bomb squad has tack to This Day so The Very Very Osha Jeff Fitness on. That's my mans and them Anyway Yeah Maso really excited eighty man really happy for these two guys that they were able to get this thing together able to announce it honestly now I just need some big time showed the programming. I know we're we're not GONNA get much in terms of like you know multiple city press tours and things like that so they got to give us some good show deprogramming man last time for wildest pay per view with Ortiz. Easy told me that. The Fox cameras were encamped for thirty days straight. They did a four part series on them and and look good numbers burs leading into the Ortiz fight. Ortiz fight didn't do the superstar numbers that we would have wanted but you know most executives executives say two hundred and fifty is safe zone so while they came in and around seventy five with your T.'s. And that was one that people didn't want this is the one we we want. And I think it's going to generate more. Because people believed that he lost. So they're going to tune into C- can happen again similar to the Andy Ruis except the you know. Oh excitement level for the upset. Wasn't there but all in all happy for my chatman that that that he gets to go in there and try rectify this is wrong and and create history. You know Moving from here I would like to see undisputed. Ah obviously there's a major rumors of an immediate rematch. So which is going to have to enjoy this fight and Kinda forget about all negotiations and stuff like that. It's probably going to be hard to even talk box without talking while during. Aj Now the wilder is secured for a fury with the rematch clause in it. That puts them off off the table for pretty much. All the two thousand twenty unless this knockout is so fantastic dramatic amazing that Team Fury Family Fury pulls the plug and says no more no more. That's enough you know we. We can't take you get hit like this much longer. We'll see we'll see because the other thing about this fight over the announcement of this fight is that PBC on Fox right away. Put out about a three minute instagram clip showing on the twelfth round. Give him both guys credit. Multiple People You know discussing it kind of like they normally do with the PBC faceoff So it was. It was Brian Campbell. nick kind of veto from Compu- box multiple people. Just talking what about that twelve round talking about fear getting up you know they even saw somebody said how we walk them down in that final round so very honest All their starting all very honest on the promotion level. I liked it. It was universal. Let me double check top rank but a highly doubt. The top brain didn't because like I said they sent out their own press release with their own graphic image Totally different from ESPN's I mean excuse me not ESPN but Totally different different from. ABC and Fox are using the same and Frank Warren and top rank or using the same mm-hmm but yeah ring magazine. Don't forget they have confirmed If if anybody WHO's into the ring magazine Belt I remember Danny won on the ring magazine when he beat Amir Khan Kinda hard to say that the winner of this fight is the ring magazine champion because like like you know. He's still got multiple belts and he's had multiple events and I don't know. Are they saying that he has never earned the right to be called the true champion. The division I don't know but you know this title will be on the line remember when we interviewed wilder. He said he didn't want to lean you. And he doesn't want no franchise and he doesn't and care about no ring but The ring is going to be on Since Tyson fury was ranked number one. Indiana is ranked number two The Vacant Ring Magazine. Kazini heavyweight belt will be contested in their rematch. And that's what I'm saying. So was this something convenient that they just rank wilder and fury number one and number two was that after. Aj took the laws. Like I don't understand how. Aj was never eligible for that belt. But you know regardless that's items on the line and Frank. Warren is promoting look since the announcement. Frank Warren four hours ago use their official image and information on on his on his an instagram. And then there's been three there's been three three posts since then and all very detailed. You know a lot of graphic imagery and texts you know getting the message across now We WanNa see more obviously for those that don't live on the Internet right so we need to see a billboards. We need to see Commercials So it's interesting it's interesting WanNa see how heavy that promotion is going to be. I know that that wilder has high expectations. He's got high expectations for this promotion. So did Bob Arum who who is yet to get back to me. Probably got a bunch of everybody. Nobody WanNa talk to him right right about now But Yeah I'M GONNA get an open up the phone lines man Mike Cata cut out. He was getting in a appointment from someone someone today meeting. So we'll go out to the phone lines and just want to hear what you guys got to say. I mean the announce it's official is. Do it remember to rated five stars on itunes. These calls are brought to you by El Camino electrical services experts electric vehicle charging stations for consultations -tations and turnkey installation visit us at El Camino electrical services dot com. All right all right. We're going out to New Orleans Joshua Talk to me already come back to right. Jt Talk to me. Come back come back to me and there might be out on Kellett's we'll talk to me. Yo Yoenis come back to this. This boy tank just missed weight again a man. You'll he looking ill. He stepped on the scale. Looking soft as fuck came in late to manny's an embarrassment I I mean I I love him as a fighter but this is too much looking Flavian shit but is he going to try make the weight or is it also has. He has one hour to make way but still man. He's I I mean this shit I mean he's he's starting to become Broder two point. Oh man this is crazy. You're talking to Where my here we go all right guy? Sorry about You know show business so we got loot Dibella so Foodie give me one minute. I'll get right back to you. I gotTA connect Lou with the show and have this fantastic interview view Lou. How are you sorry? Sorry for the delay and you hear me yes we do. You hear US bad area. Just can you hear. I'M GONNA I'll quarterback at two minutes. Okay I heard him perfectly damn show business guys that was Lou Dibella get him on. I'm glad that he had time for us. You know He just you had a definite family so you know I didn't know if he was a hundred percent willing he'll call me back out to boomerang I mean let me finish mich- widow or are you still there killer killer dropped off okay that means we're going to boomerang bombecks talk to me. Listen van. It's a fantastic day got done. I mean it's a good thank and say wilder stays in the gym because this is a pretty quick turnaround for the fight. He had a man. I'm just finally go out and sign and it's done now we can get to big business but you will hundred percent right. There's no way we can't talk about winner of this bike financing Joshua but don't know what his next move is was so quick to his fight that it doesn't make sense for them to get into the ring with anybody else and take the winter this fight which will be to wilder by devastating knockout but Yeah Yeah Man. I'm excited man. I'M GONNA keep it short because I don't WanNa miss loop but a back at your brother. All right this Hopi hits us back. He said he was going through. Some service Issues there. We're GONNA go to Cyrus. Boxing actually goes Louis Moment. Mike Take it away. What's going on? Lou Dibella Oh my Bam tripping now look. I'm excited about the fight. I'm glad it was announced. I think Vegas is a perfect venue. Ford fording the crowd hates interrupt. We got Lou Lou. How are you guys? Merry Christmas Taylor is well first and foremost thank you for coming on and our condolences. I know you suffered a loss in your family and we just want to say you know Send our love and an express our condolences and obviously also you know salute to you for still being willing to Come on in have an interview so much boxing. Boxing talk about. I mean where would you want to start off or whatever you in the stands want holidays. I'll talk about anything you want. Now what's going on now. I would be remiss if I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't actually this question. I understand if you don't want to answer through. But we did have a month ago and we asked them while you were no longer a part of the wider Cam. Do you want to care to coming on or should we just leave it alone. I don't know what I don't know what Shelly said but You Know I. I don't know what Shelly said so I got nothing. He said he said it was split. Mutual split is all. He said he kept short. Very spoke very highly of you Was it a mutual split. I guess when when when you don't see eye to eye on how to do things I guess. It is a mutual split. You know what I'm saying. I don't know I gotta hatred anybody I At some point I want to sit down and talk one one man to man with the day and Including including air about some stuff that But that'll happen eventually. And I you know I got no hatred towards the guy that relationships are very well. Oh for a long time and I never had. I never had a written contract with the day. I was there because they wanted me to be part of the team and And the team includes Shelley and out and myself to death what it included at the time. you know I'm who I am and and I'm not going to be somebody else for anybody I don't care how powerful they are who they are and I did. I always did what I thought was right for the interest. I always try to serve the interests as well as I can and I think that I was for the period of time we work together I think I was a good soldier for him and And then we hit a point in time where there was some disagreements. I thought some of the things I did in the moves I made helped the wilder I still leave. They helped out they wander and are continuing to help out. They welder but But you know there was nothing ugly and you didn't read anything ugly you haven't seen then if you agree and you're not gonNA hear anything I'll ugly for me right now You know I I. We worked together for a long time and I think it worked. Well Oh for for both of us. I don't think Allen Shelley wanted participation and I think they got what they wanted But you know they're entitled to have that preference is to they managed the guy and he's loyal to them and And it is what it is. I mean I'm I'm I'm getting philosophical in my all day. It's you know what I you know. You can't control you can't freak out about and business in life or not the same thing all the time you know what I mean. They They aren't they will always only st somebody that I root for and I have I got nothing but love for him. I may be pissed off a little bit about some things because they'll get addressed in due time and And there's no showing on my end you know. I wish everybody well and and I still think he's probably GONNA win. On February twenty-second I think that if it goes the distance Jerry's GonNa win but I just think that there's going to be that moment sometime. The twelve rounds where we're Tyson's gotta pay the Piper but you know it's a great match on tape who was a great. It was entertaining of you. Know really dramatic. It's the first time that I think it's going to be more of the same on February twenty-second it up to a box accent. You want to see that fight now. Would you have liked to to have seen this fight. Get announced a little bit sooner. We think we're exactly at eight weeks out for this one. You know. I'm not working on it so it's not really my business. I I always believe in time. You know I don't think that this is that being said looked mayweather. Pacquiao was the biggest fight of all time and it got made on short notice in this you you know if it takes off and I think that the General Boxing Fan knows that this is a great fight. They need to cross over to sports fans and more casuals But you know they got to is and how to promote and wilder and if you're into how to promote themselves It's a good match up on for. And they have time to build into a big Bob's tripping with some his forecasts a performance. But I still think it's a real big fight I think. Let me go to guestimation of two million pay per view buys. I mean you know Bobby Bob. I mean Bob's great promoter. And he says a Lotta Shit. Some video leans I I think it's GonNa I think it's a big fight. I don't I don't really see there's nothing out there at the moment right now that I see doing a couple of million homes This included but but but I think that there aren't a lot of fights any longer than have a meaningful chance of doing a million bucks And I think just one does I. I think I think this one has a meaningful chance. A breaking a million bucks and I think that that would be great. I want to go back real quick Now with the situation without Heyman and shelter think Oh has that had any effect on any current business deals or future business deal that you guys might come together on. I mean look I'll do business. It's just anybody Alan I did a lot of business for a long time and now we're not doing any That at that that probably is somewhat of a mutual decision though I'm I'm willing to work with everybody and if I'm able to make fights for my guys on TV platforms and doing without. I would do one. If it were fighters interest. I would do that kind of deal immediately. you know. I'm not GonNa get into what happened right and wrong and everything else because we live in a world where managers sometimes don't act like managers. They act like promoters voters and promoters sometimes act like managers and it's all of the whole business showed a very confused Tom. I'm open to doing business with everybody including Allen. PBC ABC right now. It doesn't seem to me that that the doors very open for me at the PBC universe but again they have their own world alternate able to do what they wanted this. You know I mean it's it's not only the PBC world it's difficult for me to navigate. It's difficult for me to navigate the zone world when I'm not a pro you know when I don't have an output deal difficult for me to navigate the ESPN A lot of WANNA turn my fighters over Kebab and and top rank them. How good company they maybe? Maybe and they are It's not easy all over the place so I'm not you know it's I i. I made a decision to be with this in his business and I've succeeded for thirty years by by navigating the the universe says it is and right. Now you know things are what they are and I gotTa make the best of doing business in the in the you know situations that are in front of me. I'm willing to do business with anybody including a hell. I no. No you know our and I've been friendly for twenty years plus Obviously we do this together. Very much anymore. I sort of think I persona non grata because the PBC today. I don't really fully get it but at the same time I do get it. You know I you know I'm not I've never been. And I'm not a sham promoter. I you know if I'm asked to promote something I'd do it my way and do the best I can and if people if we're doing business this where we're you know we're agreeing that we want to work together because we're able to to to meet each other's expectations then then you continue to do. This is what somebody if if you know you. Don't you no longer feel like the other person or the people doing business with that smooth booths selling and it's a situation that you're comfortable and then then it makes sense. Those business dealings are not are not what they were and right right now. That's a situation but I'm not. I'm not eight nine anybody. I'm the big boy and And I'm sure if something popped up where and I felt that it says to do something together that we would now did that situation. Hinder the seven farmer situation because is We know that that was a fight that was available for seven in Giovanni to mix it up and now it seems like we might not get that. Oh I've talked to Leonard either. be where he says the. There's there's there's there's not gonNA fight show show at the end of January but after that You know Kevin's got to win that fight. That's the puffy. That's life and Joe's going to present the real challenge but Winterbourne wins that fight. We're going to pursue everything and you know. Move up in weight to fight Chevanton. Certainly something that we would consider pursue. And I'm Mabel do business with Floyd and Leonard and myself or cool Allen I may not be doing business the wheel eight each other I mean I I I I respect more than I. Respect a lot of people in boxing and I tend to think that he feels the same way about me That if something makes sense we're gotta get done I look I If they were there was a meaningful game plan and I could make a plan for a reaches just program You know the PBC world that made sense for reasons. I would pursue. I'm GONNA pursue what's the best interests of my ciders across the board I'm not GonNa let my Inability or or or Inability because I'm able to work with anybody but I'm not gonNA let my desire. Maybe not to work with. Somebody hurt hurt the people on representing in this marketplace in the way boxing. The boxing visits his right now. I have to present as many opportunities to my fighters is like that and I have to be willing to work with with everybody and you will set the look at how how complicated the marketplaces you know Mike. He has just made a the one or to deal with With with Any he's coming over to five bar guests and I think there's is the first and last on an ex fight Ramirez is a top-ranking. ESPN he's got a mandatory scheduled. Any ready made a contract for second second mandatory so he's not going to be available to reach us most of two thousand twenty You know I gotta look around them the the marketplace and then make a deal that reflects the best possibility for the fighter and and because of the nature of like who's got the champions who's most heavily invested in particular the weight classes. You know For example a fifty four forty seven outsider this a lot more action at. TC You know at forty. Now you know occur and like he navy Josh Taylor being at the zone that's going to create a lot of opportunities for for Regis. What forty I gotta do strategically and you gotta be open to doing business with everybody. I think that if you don't have to deal and you don't have your platform you know you'd be doing a disservice to yourself at your fighters if you didn't addle it that way speaking of your own platform now. You said that you weren't willing to turn over your your fighters to the top bring was a prerequisite for them to do business. Would you for the most part you. Yeah I mean for the most part you're giving up if they're interested in a champion. They'll do deal with you and look how about complaining. I think I I can't complain where I've done a deal with somebody else. I mean if I put my my signature to the paper and I bind by fighter into a situation. I'm doing that. Because it's the best opportunity that available to me so to turn around and then complains is sort of so not fair Eh. One Hand on the other hand what choice you have you know if I have to give future rights to to put my guys. ESPN then I'll have to look at that. As part of AH the deal. That's being offered if I have to. You know work with Eddie or or turnover. My asset petty to get a date at zone. That's what I have to do if if you know that being said doesn't mean I like it doesn't mean that we could stare but if I'm doing it I can't really pitch much about it because I'm doing it. You know what I'm saying like I gotTa keep a real I can't on one hand say This is fucked. You know Suck Eddie. I don't WanNa have to do business with any of that. I'm I'm doing to deal with any of doing a deal with any at the moment. I'm doing that deal because I think it's the right thing for my company and the fighter now in a perfect world do I think all these platforms platforms should really be open to everybody. Yeah man that's how I've I've always believed like open. Competition is the best thing for any marketplace and any any type of sport or any programming or anything you know the the ability of people to work with one another freely usually results in the best program. Usually I usually was up to the best rates. Right I mean we're still getting some good fights. I don't think you could say oh. We're not getting any good fights. Read a real real good fights last year But there's certainly a lot of situations that frustrating where it's very clear that certain fights there really shouldn't be made are not happening because there are three different streets quote unquote and a Lotta people hesitant to cross streets. Definitely want to kind of go back real quick north Saturday and get his reaction to Anthony Joshua coming back and getting the victory over Andy Rees saying a lot of people that way way before you change topics. Don't you got nothing. Nothing respect respect for I respect for how how. Aj Shit nothing. I think he had everything pretty much the way he needed to he. He went back to his roots. He box he fought smart. He didn't give a shit what anyone thought about or performance. He did what it took. Got To get us back. news patient. You had a good game plan He executed it you know. Was it exciting exciting. Though that I enjoy watching it. No but that doesn't matter like his job is to go out there and win his belts back and he did and and he handled himself like a champion. He he prepared incredibly well He was in incredible. Oh shape he was way looser and more liquids work fluid that he wasn't its previous performances. She didn't look as robotic as he did when he was more bulked up up like I saw positive things even though it was boring I thought I saw some great positive things. Patta Joshua's performance in that fight and and an and. I was disappointed in that but you know. Look the fight another day and hopefully a little less Lou. Widow your background and in being a network executive for HBO and then promoting on all levels of the sport. How hard is it for you to lobby showtime to to maybe lead off or be at the helm of shock series and other boxing? Hbo Boxing After Dark Series. Like I love what you're doing. UFC is just so difficult to get. I I sat down. Look I've sat down and I've sat down and talked to Steven I respect the number of times And I you know I I. I've tried to sell my cell phone on. You know doing more stuff with a showtime I You know Steven Scott Stevens got big obstacles. He's gotTa deal with. I know he wants to keep showtime program to get the highest level. He's got a big fight this weekend Even though I think I was going to win The data's fight It's it's still a a Davis is Star it's still a promote -able fight and And I think it's getting some interest this weekend. And and it's a good fight for you. You know for showtime but Showtime Scott Torrance an end to compete with the crazy money of a disown. It's hard for them to compete with pay per view because ideally they want to have have a lot of those fights. Now that are going to pay per view they would like to have live on showtime It's challenging for premium cable right. Now you know you're you're you're you're competing with with streaming services that are willing to invest some money lose money in the attempt to build something something for the future and Stevens try to maintain something for the president. You know his. His gay plants focused on what he's delivering showtimes subscribers subscribers right now so it's not easy for him but I I understand that I mean look I just had a long meeting with with with Stephen Either discussing Great it'd be pretty easy for Steven to make a deal to do reach US next fight. But the concern that Stephen has is getting the big excite after that and it's not so easy for him to get the big fight. When reaches his potential opponents are all tied up with another streaming service and network? You know what I mean. So that Stevens like well I could give you a couple of fights that we can rebuild resist. But then where's my. Where's where's my gold ring kind of fight whereas whereas the big fight at the end of the tunnel and because of the fact that fighters locked into the two deals with competing services etcetera? It's not always easy to come up with that game plan. If you're if you're a showtime or anybody else in the marketplace replace bookkeeper compete and so so he's just not interested in a show box series because budget wise that has is to be cheaper than Charles Devante Davis's and he's interested in he's still doing action. showtimes Slovaks warbucks is still a good good series to understand why the meat you Salida seems to have all of them know what I like. Is he doing more. Show about stuff with jokes Dr. Yes they know that and I hope that in two thousand and twenty. I'll do a few more show boxes and I think that show boxes are nice. Component of what's showtime does. But I understand why they you know they've had a big platform at a big brand that showtime Oh time championship boxing for a long time and I don't think they're willing or desiring of giving up that that series unreas- you know I just think they'll do more smaller shows but I know that they have a great interest on delivering star power and delivery stars force to their audience. I know that that's something that that that's even very you know. focused on It's one of the reasons why I I would look ahead for you. Know to to see the opportunity to build a you know a star like reaches program. If that torch the discharge tell people that the final was going to be an England and then exact same fight took place in the United States. I tend to think Kazak same fight would result in at a different result someplace else. I'm not saying it was unfair decision. Who's just a very close fight? And certainly every advantage adage was to Josh Taylor who fought the entire tournament home you know but hey you know stuff happens. I don't think anything less regis as a fighter lider or a a an attraction or potential star. I don't think any less about than I did before that I and I think that some that were streaming service. It's going to have a a a real far their heads if they if they see division that is trying to convey and get behind Regis in two thousand twenty. I think that that he still has all the tools at all the abilities to be transcendent star. You've got more charisma. The box is there any fighter in your stable. Look and say man. This guy right here could be nice special thing in boxes outside of Regis program any becoming Stephan saw or somebody like that. I think I got a bunch of heavyweight that can make some noise and do some things I think. Shore 'cause always been a quality heavyweight. He's coming into his own right now and heavyweight's tend to cover their into their own a little bit later. I think twenty twenty is going to be a real big year for stuff I think he I think he could and beat compete with any. What a division like? I I mean I don't think he's a no Khokar against anyone and I feel the same way about the two kids from New Zealand. I I I I WANNA see your healthy and twenty twenty active Pretty sad all the tools. He's six six seventy s and giant. He's got a good jab in good skills and this kid Hemi Ohio out of New Zealand might be the hardest puncher I've ever worked worked with in the heavyweight division than the wild And I think he can make a Lotta voice and then the big old specs Shalala And right now he's debating as to whether or not he's GonNa Compete Foods back that and in the Olympics which is contract allows them to do But I absolutely think he could be a top five guy right now i. I think you'll olive could compete after five six fights. I already think nick. He's able to compete with the highest levels of heavyweight division. So I have a lot a lot to the heavyweight division of focusing on CONWELL had a tragic gear was part of of that whole Patrick Day lost the Patrick Day. That that terrible night The cotton well I think came into this year. He's GonNa have some challenges that most fighters don't have to deal with There's the question when you're opponent. Does the results in the fight. You participated in the heavy heavy thing But I think the kid is super talented when and when I graduated that lasts and let the class that I you know I knew that I wasn't going to be able to to compete. Which Fisher quarter? When he wasn't that'll I knew the money was going to be crazy crazy? My poacher core was a great prospect but I sort of took off my board and the guys that I was most focused on promoting After last Olympics were tse about Lopez and Kudlow and a female ended up with top rank. I went up promoting conwell but I really do believe he's Charles. He's got world chaptered. Written all over him I WANNA make sure we're going to get back really quickly Quietly early twenty twenty twenty just to get it not a lot of fanfare to get to get in the ring again and maybe just got some more comfort level and that can back by people are so into a another like nature step up and I think I think shawls has like he has the ability to compete with with the champions fifty four right now like right now. He's legit top tech. Ed Now we recently had a fight lansing Campbell Djamil Carlo Antonio Harrison. I thought Tony Harrison was doing a great job. Northam boxing use a combination. I gotTa tell you something I was I was I was blown away by. Tony was boxing. Most if I I I thought a lot of that fight was like brilliant boxing. But then you gotTA. You can't make a mistake when you're fighting that fight and that was that was it over. You can't make a mistake Terrell Charlotte Charlotte. He's the lion. He is a young beast he's got flaws laws his game but he's dangerous is how And and you can't make a mistake if you're going to box him and you think you're going to beat him by by avoiding it and outboxed him. You can't afford to make a mistake. Totally made a mistake. That was that I agree with everything. You said. A little every everything every detail but when we up until the knock-out comes that who judges had Charlie winning like where do we you start to hold people accountable for their scorecard. Who would we hold people accountable? We're not GonNa Start Holding people accountable because ninety ninety nine percent of the people writing about boxing right now work for somebody and they're all everybody's got a conflict and everybody's got a stake in the game as it now exists and including everybody. Everybody everybody I mean by managers promoters fires everybody we sit down and we tolerate straight out fucking bullshit we call rate it and by collar rating it we encourage it. We allow it to continue. And you know what the courts of fights close doesn't mean you don't know who the fuck was wedding before Org because the fights closed doesn't mean you don't know what we sit. There was a close fight. Well Fuck you. We'd have a guy one so what it was closely. I mean gene with what annoys me about the scorecards a lot of times. If he can sit there literally take three little kids and put them in the judges seats and he had notified. Take take a vote of the crowd estimates to tell you who what the fight and then I would trust those three little kids more than I would force the judges that are politically connected to ratings organizations to managers promoters to you know the judge has got a lot of different influences on them. And there's gotta be a reason that so nobody fucking decisions stick. I consider myself absolutely well. Alumina definitely appreciate the time. Actually you've been talking regis ally and we had Bob Arum on here not too long ago and he mentioned regis. This is a great opponent for Crawford. Is that something you would be interested in or would you rather see regis finish campaigning at forty or or did you not speak of because like you said Bob wants control of the fighter. I talk a lot of fighters right. Now they're all gone to them. It had numerous discussions that reaches very simple. Very simple reason. I do. I do what my fighter management asked me to. Ah Regis. Is You know this. An an an santee Kaczynski Pete Berg Management. They want to know what their possibilities are. They've always wanted to fight. Ramirez Ramirez is the topic but Crawford has been has been like a a dream Fife for reasons that his head for years. It's been something something that he's aspired to when he's ready to move up to forty seven so obviously obviously bud doesn't have a lot of opposition at a top rank universe one forty seven so you know with Regis win comes back to forty reestablish themselves as the best that I still think reach us is the best word of mouth or the world I truly believe. I believe that I would do a deal. If there was a Volpi fight situation. Why could bring back Comeback Fight to reach this Ramirez Ramirez Ramirez fight and then if he wins that Ramirez fight a cough for. That would absolutely be something that we would be interested in it. I would present that to reach the citizens management right now I happen to offer for pop rank the present. They told me that they need to look at dates. And they need to satisfy why their own fighters before they deal for somebody else so You know it's the holidays. I haven't pressed too hard. You know. Oh come next week when we get back to work after the New Year I'll depressing very hard because I need to get to the ring by this say we live an alternate Look I'll throw out some scenarios. We could go fight. We can go fight. One of the one forty pounders. Top Rack has their staple that follow it up with Ramirez and look to a corporate of the future we could go to. PBC and fight. Mario Barrios for the. Va Forty pounds title. which would be a big fight and then the winner of that site could fight broder whenever you think Broder and you know we could go to dissolve old and find him oh hooker or whoever else is available at what forty right now because we know that Taylor and Ramirez are not available the regis will fight like commodity so we can go there at fight? You know You know one of the one of Goldenvoice guys forty or one of of A AH guys at forty that look at Mikey Garcia. Mo- Hooker Josh Taylor. You know there's a lot of different avenues. We could attack but you know regis is going to set. He's chomping at the bit. I'm getting I'm getting videos of him. Working out on Christmas Eve at three in the morning. He's he sharp sharp. He wants to fight and I'm not gonNA let him SIP staple for the past couple of weeks. We have a number of college. I Ah throw another one at you I wanNA throw another. I'm puzzled looking at this old. And looking at at Eddie's stable of fighters zones spiders. I'm puzzled why they they're you know get get a dervish. Keiko situation dissolved right out. Because you would figure that that would naturally be the place I mean I would wanna see tripled she dervish echo fight again. It's a point then. I don't think they like boxing. I WANNA see that. Well he certainly doesn't I just WanNa see them as next fight. But I've never seen triple she run away from anybody at by the way like to go black. He already ran away from tango. Two years ago when he dropped phone eight mandated by Tahoe. No well look at us. Let's look styles of excites. I've been watching Bill Joe's fights and he's he's he's a very talented guy but the American public's screaming for Billy Joe Saunders get somebody pretty and talented Smith Honest Count Smith beat writer so like I really understand why everyone I was thinking that somehow one of those fights is GonNa like I rather see rather see Cabello phytotherapy check and fight billy show personally styles make fights maybe if he had the bell but he is getting thankful as well. Oh by the way. That's the great one of the great things of oxygen. You Fuck you fuck the guy who's not supposed to it so the story the the starfighter just wins the close fight automatically right. See Fuck the guy that had have had his great night and went to war and did everything he was supposed to do and he gets. It's fucked and then. Because he had spot then he listened to the belt and the belt so why fight so instead of making again the best fight you can make go to the guy who arguably didn't win his last fight. What is less fighting a robbery or looked like shit? Give him the next fight because he doesn't have a record or he's only has some kind of bullshit piece of hardware that it doesn't other people at his weight class are also claiming they. Ah We gotTA do better than this ship Redo like we gotta we gotta change it a little bit. I agree man Who Knew How can we get rid of the WBA? I know it's probably bad of you to take a stance because you may need them but five dollars per division you've reached a WBA. Don't after get rid of. I'm just saying five titles per division. They're over saturating. The watering it down. I mean gene at this point. I'm begging for someone to ignore the WB and just go at the I. B. O.. WHO At least is a secondary title with just one title? Yeah but you know what that I- getting crazier and crazier with WPA. Hugh said I didn't about going to a market trump in there because it's not going to do anything 'cause for me to to to reiterate what you just said go I'm not disagreeing with you But I I actually think this day and age that we're all the ratings organizations You GotTa look at the whole system. I the system is broken. And it's more broken because now you gotta see always had alphabets right the A. B. C. The F. B. O.. The whenever the fuck okay now you got even more important. It always had other reported issues but now the initials initials are almost their own worlds. And you have the as the n PBC AN ESPN top rank and those initials initials combined with the ratings organizations and mandatory. So complete horsh it if you want a AH A lot of writers have written this lately. Look sometimes you have to use the system to try to build your guy who's a deserved challenger into into a mandatory because otherwise he's not going to get an opportunity and there've been Shaneco show the world why he was illegitimate mandatory and is to fight to gets daddy shakeups at Dropkin and he used that system. We use that system for him to his benefit but it was desert he he was really one of the best middleweights in the world. But now when when a promoter doesn't have a big fight for a fighter that all all of a sudden what we need to find are mandatory and the WB or the DAC or RBM. They're insisting that we fight are bad Tori and cadaver mandatory so they could barely stand up for is that it's just a disturbing that that you wouldn't how l. they got there but then again the arts. Tom Matte that we never heard of that. Go into a fight and then they prove okay. Well this guy earned it. This guy can fight but the whole system right now. I like to think of ratings organizations the whole system closed networks and closed streaming services It's not serving the greater interest in the box thing. It's not fair. It's not good for fighters at large and it's certainly not good for anybody that doesn't control control will their own streaming service or or or network budget. Well all right Lou man. I WanNa thank you. Obviously for the time was a fantastic interview. A lot of insight. We do appreciate your time and if you want to give out your social media anywhere these crazy listeners. That aren't the following you can do. So well willow. So I'm sorry for it. It just came back to me just came back to me Lou in a alternate universe. Whatever how would you Komo parents call for and get him these big fights that he wants? 'cause we got callers calling in San Parents carpeting. Notify somebody on the level of with John Porter Cheap Berman Danny Garcia Cetera. Look in part of the problem right now honestly First of all coffers making a Lotta money it's not like you have to cry for Sean for for. Oh sorry for by Crawford New Book for the Guy She's been fighting coffers made extraordinary living I'm pretty convinced stood. Bob Could make deals. That would send Crawford to other streaming services. That's very hard to do with powerful pound fighter. So I'm not gonNA jump on him for that but I think there's gotta be more creativity to get better be side or or a co wayside to get a FIFA qualifer that bud really views as a challenge and that the public views as it attraction You know I I just to some extent I remember which fighter said this but one of the fighters I love it was bud or reporter said if we WANNA make a fight badly enough bob. Oh and Al Arche stop it from happening. I actually agree with that. If they want it badly enough they could probably make it up. I mean while the definitely made it happen right. He's fighting sites in with a CO promoted. How do you feel about that because I would rather like to see Fox pay per view? ESPN pay per view. where I could just grab my remote purchase? It right on the cable box not have to go to an APP. Are they shooting themselves. The box and showtime overtime. No it's Fox Fox Fox pay per view co-promoted. ESPN plus pay per view. You're able to you mean you don't have to get it through plus you could still get. I'm guessing I don't. I didn't see the press release but I'm sure you'll be able to get it the same way. You only probably got pay per view. See if you don't have plus you can't pay per view you have suggested but that's ESPN. I'm sure you can get on on TV to Fox. I'm sure that there's I I'm guessing I haven't seen announcement. has there been a press release. There isn't really an ordinary. Does it say you could only I. I'd have a hard time believing that you can only get it through the ESPN APP. No that's it. It's it's Fox pay per view and ESPN plus pay per view so for ESPN. They're the B. side in this. If you read through this press release fine combed nut up you can see that they're the B. Side. Everything Fox goes. I wilder goes I. His quotes go first. And then it's Espn Dan plus rather than ESPN pay per view. ESPN plus means only APP. If you're going to purchase it through. ESPN they're going to purchase it through. Fox You can buy it on. Your cable able backseat goodbye it on Fox at streaming APP. But I guess I would ask this. What does it say and give a fuck? As long as they're watching the fight whether they care about how by only because I think you get more by you could elect on Alexa. I guess you could elect the by you could elect to buy through the ESPN plus APP or you could elect the by by the normal pay per view activation. You would normally do right through Fox so that'll be really matters that on that front. Well alright those are all our questions. We said that about five times. Thank you so much send Enjoy the rest of the day and weekend. Obviously happy holidays man. Thank you so much happy holidays. Everybody thank you all right I can jump out now. Me Promoter. Lou Dibella formerly most. Wow very deep in the past promotes bridges in a list of others. Yes yes yes man fantastic interview. Thank you lou coming on. Thank you to everybody this tuning in for listening if you could just do us a favor and hit that thumbs up just a tiny little favorite. Just hit that thumbs up help with visibility. Show you know it ensures the we keep getting and he's big name guests. Listen that was on a fly thing. Had it not been on the fly I would have definitely put out a postal patron. Had you guys ask those questions that you know only you can come come up with but Yemen go out to the streets. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA still cut out and try and get deontay wilder trainer He did say he would be available and we're pretty much as late now So hopefully still available We had cut off Cyprus. Emma may I believe it was going to Las Iris. Ame right really really good fight on. This is finally happening I wanted to give you guys a show you guys have been doing. I remains a mouth work during holidays. Today's so honored to Nass. Maybe you can put something on your patriots as to how companies can do a Accustomed donation like one of donation For companies right so something to think about peace out all all right That was Ah Cyrus thank you for calling in I. I don't even know I don't even know what the Kinda like like Colin or dated. I'd like boxing gloves or up once. Divide maybe we can give it away if I if I got the digest it just right you Man Listen whatever helps the team We're going to go out to. Did we go back to him all right. So we're going out to New Orleans Joshua Josh Look Nash. Somebody keep dropping his off the coast. I just got to come back in and he's doing it with my brother right now So I'm delivering. I'm on everybody on. That is the People Ya know so I don't know a watching. I'm watching it. Go back and forth. So that's what was going on but I'm glad I went. You went to map. They interviewed one of the best interviews. I heard on his show He dropped a UH analogy in the game. You could tell he'd been in the game for so long because you can't just call the street out Like I say I have no opinion on this. I'm I'm a fan of widow while they're doing why carry yourself like a true chapin. He moved to champion. He Vic- need to be getting going across the street he making eight unified happened happened and he put Putting yourself out there in Only supposed to be doing so I really ain't got no complaints about The ticket sales I hope they they do where I hope it Do great honestly think is going to be one fight. I don't think regal make another rematch would While the because I think it'll be one fighting done. I do have a question on Mike and this I noticed that When you ask them in his opinion he says about five is not going across versus street? what did you get from that Mike on this Pretty much He's pretty sure that Bob Arum could come up with a package. That seems Crawford Crawford not that one not that one he was just speaking freely and he was asked I think he was McCain across and say something about five vitus going across the street and not crossing streets. He wasn't really Making it a reference to nobody. He just made the blank statement. Why he cut cut cut? Cut How you remember that. Might you be made you know what I'm saying pretty much make the fighting. Say He's saying that that you have to sign a long time deal to necessarily get across the street. I mean my cane. Sano long-term do he second tackling perfect perfect but I mean with BBC. I don't mean the obvious zone. Deal his his deal with BBC wasn't long. It was the same thing he got with zone. One off one often often we get the last master as you know you just gotTa Know How to negotiate man you only as good as what you can negotiate and look we talked about earlier met some some people probably just comfortable man. Elijah talk to me. Even Lou Lou insinuated that his first statement was caucus paid a lot a lot of money to fight those guys over there. More bird you gotta be dumb. Nothing would that me. Elijah talk to us so yeah. I'm excited about a fashion. I think I think fear is a big. 'cause he fires bombs at a time and took shit on world is just I don't i. I don't not dislike while their opponent was wellness is the energy he talks with saying. If you booze coming find me. And then he keeps stuck career-high paydays you know what it is. I'm GonNa tell you guys this before. I don't think anyone's company and before I used to be a professional professional soccer player country I I envy. He dropped off. I don't know what's going on I I I think they overhear beefing with each other on skype. Ma'am go out to the landline hanging up on people over there. Davidian men talk to us Hello Yeah what up live in a young Yup Yup. Hey what's going Roy. Rather talk to us. We don't come back to you riding a seven. Oh talk to me with a man. Hey I'm gonNA Walmart come right back to. I connected me about the left. Yeah we want me to work overtime. I ain't get a super chat yet. Had Lewd the bell on Lou Ludacris told the whole story. My Ain't nobody that story yet. They we get some low and they get a damn actually J.. Mac thank you Jay Mac. At least he said he like the interview cheese low lease. Where's the love Ainhoa in city? Nanna let me. We were going to start that from Debbie go to Colorado. Actually I gotta go to Boomerang stainless sorry. I'll be back to Colorado stainless more fuck glassworks at a stainless told you well. What do we set the aim at talking money? Then you speaking my language or shut the book. TV back up in this bitch was good. What up chant? Ah Y'all might mice. You stood there too. He did. It'd be by the way man good interview. With Luke's I jumped off the jump jump on skype. So I wasn't really all you to Noggin. My thumbs out for a variety put already gave thumbs up on Youtube but two thumbs up to interview you. Okay I act up soon as I get on you to understand. Why the Knicks problem is you know what I'm saying did not resign a reflecting the views so NATO's Bush in the need to stop shoplifting but onto my plane with the show? I'm excited to hear about you. Know being made official. But that'd be Bella interview. I'll I don't know what question I was Mike. Astronaut that medical attention to buckle judges man with our appreciate them giving effects like that man this. It only gives more to the debate argument argument. I'm sure we'll have after the show after many more but I'm saying it's good to hear somebody else. Actually you know saying Speaking cadence in Santa hot the judge influenced by everybody else on the outside. But I didn't notice Lula while I didn't get to hear it. I think thank you mess up. s kind of breaking news me. Manna hurdle somebody vinegar for. Awhile is good to see the thank nothing to do with theon say. Gosh I know what's going on out. Okay worked at high actually said that he wanted to talk to Deontay. said cut it in the heat feels he say he feels he does He deserves that from the onset of get a sit down so one on one now I was going to ask you before we got the colored by what you think happened. It seemed like everything what happened. Come on Mike. How you all know what happened? It was is it always goes good. Somebody got cut somebody off the roster checks increase your check increased to and it ain't that I'm counting your pockets but at addendum day. I'm paying you. I'm the fighter so I'm paying you so I got accounts of pockets and I'm looking at like roll up. I'm the one risk in my life and you telling me I you gotta cut this man. How much out of this twenty million for Brazil on you want another cut twenty min- mother? Oh hold up ways from they here. No that ain't enough money man. It's only one man. Get in the ring. I get what he's got to be that in my opinion. But that's just me guesstimate and over job. You know how you know how to go. Let's see we got that. Arkansas in the building is looking Mike J O talk to us. What favier man? I don't think they deal the while it in title. Don't fight if I would not be training Because win pool out. That's going to be diligent. Little white chance to get into and he needed to get in shape. Oh you think Tyson going to pull that Dong sizing own pull of Ladimir on us when he when he signed on the faith. Yeah he he dill dill white need to be in shape now doing getting shot all right then. Thanks for calling in India right okay. All right all right all right. Let's see what we got Ranga Ranga Killa Talk to me. You know that was a very good interview guys with Luda. Ludi Bella thank you. Thank you very very impressive. A lot of information. I mean the the deontay wilder fury fight this. It's official now for twenty second severely right. Yes it is tickets on sale at a to get master in What's the other place? AXS access to have. What are the betting lines at the moment Yesterday the wilder was a plus one hundred on mybookie dot. Ag What you use Promo Code. He's a plus one hundred. If you believe in the right hand from God you can make some good money he was. He was an underdog when I checked on the Swedish betting sites as well so you need an American friend my fear now. I'm your American friend. Yeah he plus money on draftkings mybookie. FM Do that's just how we like just like a up mother bidding already. Yeah you got locked at that end with a smile and I mean I love the onto but I mean he had some difficulties in the first fight. We have to call a spade. That wasn't an easy fight for him at all. Show show money on fuel. No I mean he looked terrible this year. So you re going off this year's performances Dante's clearly early in I mean he he has the momentum going forward of course. Well that is the one thirty. Let me get to Stone Bo. Actually actually. I know I did that twice now. But any question man my kitty overlooking pretty goodness. I know now I see you want some football game day. Travelling like if for some reason won't come out my accountable into my paper. Do you deposit your compared with right now. I mean yeah I I remember Ma's out cash and I wired now wired it to my account once but also when you charging your account with paypal they make you buy a gift card right for them but his Fredo does so you. Do you still go to the thing you go to deposit and they just send you a gift card in the mail. This already empty because you used it. Bet Bet so. That's probably how the new your money too if you want to get it in the car maybe all right and go talk to us who. ooh La We begin on a fight then may nine in a no is is official tickets on sale tomorrow tomorrow is pay per view on Fox is also pay per view on. ESPN plus. Yeah man is is the real deal is going down I'll try and is in Las Vegas. MGM Grand Arena. Yeah I'M GONNA try to be down a Oh oh new Ambra an bad light regulated a highly determined shift from your own. I'm much Outta me. They're mature me. They have but yeah Batman so Valentine's Big holiday and your household Yeah ebbing save me there your lady running sit over there you see said no Pfizer. Let me take I went. I went to the to the Earth by my anniversary so I mean my girlfriend type of girl. She'll go ahead and bite on that life for now saying you're getting that at times they'll get a with little getaway to get it a heart shake Gucci Heart Shaped Jacuzzi in Vegas. Yeah do we. We already know you already know how come I like the narrative. I like to make sure that the hotel room home is overlooking the Strip so you gave a nice view you know in Vegas. All you gotTa do is play one hand casino and all of a sudden you get a free steak dinner you go. You could do good. You could come off like boy come off looking night inside and overtaking Vegas Valley. Yeah I I I get come like a young billy Dee Williams you. You've said as come all right. Click now San but I I might. That's what I that's what I'm fuck with. I like that. You're days before the fight. Mangum Agam we already know why why is going to stress to do without this time mainly without my mind about that so I can't wait to see like I said I'm going to try to make it in on. That's Michael Beck hilarious. He takes two minutes and a half a mile. That's my heat a five a minute boomerang. My man right here. jeeze stone bone for short. Is Tom John Bone Strategy Smoking on day. One thousand different strains yeah. Yeah Yeah I've been I've been I've been back. I'm just catching off the sour diesel. Adam okay because he's wanting to top. That are had grew in a minute. I remember favorite. But that's mixed that must be some real skillet sued that's the Saddle Salad. Animal Cookies already have regular salad. Diesel Down Yeah you could pull it up. Lineage man is pretty pretty adult initiate. I got called mob. Bosses is a nice sativa strain for USA. Hey but man. That was a great interview with Luda Bell Man. I'm glad that he kept it. Classy will wilder. I mean he went on no hater he was he was straight up about what Ha- I mean he went straight up about what happened but the straight up about a bitter about the situation and he dropped for some good jewels. Riza got a lot of options so it all make sense if awesome. I'll probably stay at one forty. Try to get some shit like that and then double back and try to top rank so I can get a blood or some shit like that and Good to hear wilder out here man. Good to good to hear back. I wish there was probably like in March or some men. Give us a little more time to build up the Internet frizzy for but take February. We can get that still Kasit still next year really says steel December so we we all good man which is going to get behind and make sure y'all keep doing video radio man y'all see Tangas. Ms Wait Man. What the Hell is going on in a May light breakout man could signal shit going on man on his show? Some new news break We went to Stylus. We went to stone bone. We went to bow knees pat and beantown Pat Gal. He married his would I'm excited for the site on. You know I already got Wilder in that one Good to hear that it's actually happen. I don't really understand why people all the sudden are now trying to say what's going to happen after the fight when when there's a two way rematch In that fight on that on their contract you know so I for some reason are forgetting about that As well that was a great interview With Lou Dibella EH. Pat Pat my head or got to cut you off. We have The trainer and manager of deontay wilder live on the show. Jay Dis. How are you doing? We're first and foremost thanking you. Obviously for taking the time to come on the program. Talk a little bit of boxing with us. Congratulations relations on the fight announcement. Have you already been working towards game plan or is today making it real because the announcement is official official. Oh man glad to be on the on the show already way ahead of time you know we knew after Ortiz that We were trying their best to get the period rematch and so it was all about game planning and thinking ahead and and so. I'm thrilled to the announcement made and we can go ahead and get into camp now. It's announced Fox pay-per-view ESPN plus pay paper view this as a historic moment not only in the heavyweight division but in boxing itself were to global entities. Like this are coming together What what do you think this means for boxing? And what does it mean for you. Say Well think it means that when the when when people work together great things can happen and even huge companies and they can be really. You know Possessive and he'd get typical and and and You know we're the big dog and you're this and we're not even even entities like that when they see the value working together they know there's enough for everybody. There's enough to go around. It can be so much bigger when everybody works together and for me and Deontay. We're just thrilled. Because it gets the he's name. His face is image His brand it gets all all that out there on so much bigger platform than dentist ever been the case before now J. House going Michael Grocery. I want to ask you. Freddie Roach Abel Sanchez. Being Davison now a sugarhill Andy what does your mindset instead of bringing in different trainers over and over and over again. Well he can do what he wants. I mean Y You know. He knows his way around the ring. Ultimately he's the guy in the ring But you know he he can. Do you can do what he wants. Once we have a very Stable sound efficient team and we know each other so well and we're small close knit knit tight and Chemistry is a huge thing. And you know as we saw Brazil and Virgil Hunter. It's a great fighter. Great trainer but you know it takes time. You don't just is not an instantaneous thing. Where you gel you get to know each other over the course of time so you know I? I don't know I. It's not how I would do things. But he's a different kind of cat and maybe he has reasons for with this personally. You know I think the world have been David he you people probably never know how much you know time effort and love he and fury put into each other and over the course of time they they really developed at a bomb that bond because he brought to a large degree he brought period back from the lowest point in his life. Not just boxing. But you're talking about A guy was having suicidal thoughts. That was owed morbidly obese Had all kinds of substance abuse these problems. Nobody was even thinking boxing. They were just thinking can can we keep them. He was there anything we can do to keep them alive and been was part of that entire reclamation project to get him back the feeling good about himself mentally and physically and then the boxing came back into so oh I thought you know I thought then did a great job I think I hope that they remained friends because they really went through a lot together. So losing then I think is is a big. There's a big thing but it doesn't affect us no matter what no matter who he brings in no matter who we stayed with or goes with has nothing to do with with you how we approach things. We're looking for the best Tyson fury and and we're going to you. We're going to do what we do. Now J. Obviously Watch him back home at first wilder fury while defends Kinda the wanted while the cut the ring office. Is that something that is going to be worked on or do you think that this time around cutting the ring ring won't be necessary because of the new gameplay well you know period is is is not you know typically when you got the ring off that means you're pursuing and they're you know kind of a boxing on the back foot moving or retreating. puree Jerry is doesn't really he doesn't attack all the time but he doesn't retreat all the time. He's he's a mixed bag. He changes things up up constantly. Sometimes within the same round sometimes within the same minute inside of the same round so it's very difficult because he doesn't really have any discernible patterns so he's not the Kinda guy that you say no we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA cut the ring off because he may be in the center the ring Initiating in which case you know You have to react to that. So there's there's a lot of different things that can come into play for Deontay. I think the main thing and he would tell you this is the first time out. He was just so eager to impress is biggest event of of his life and he wanted that knockout so bad that he probably you know forced he was kinda trying too hard as it works and Anybody will tell you that when you try to hit a home run you rarely you rarely accomplish. That is just when you when you get back to what you do and you take you know the proper swing. That's when you hit at the home run and And that's what he needs to do needs to fight within himself and and he'll be fired now. I know this might One I was Gonna ask what how you felt about. Anthony Joshua noticing all for it services Tyson theory of possible getting ready for the modified. Oh I don't I don't know anything about that or any publicity stunt stuff all I know is you know. This is the biggest fight Im- boxing this is the biggest fight that can be made to undefeated heavyweight Lineal Champ and the real champ getting together re matching from a tremendous fight That was held and so anybody trying to inject their their name into that or or whatever. I don't have any unique six any thoughts her time to devote to that kind of thing. I'm I'm all about the two guys that are getting in that ring and the two guys that do wanna lay it on the line and the two guys that do wanNA fight the best. And that's why they chose each other and that's the anti wilder enticed enticed puree. So you take it as a publicity stunt and him not really trying to help his countrymen overthrow that American guy I have. I have no idea and it doesn't doesn't matter to me one way or the other I just I don't I don't have really any thoughts on it. All I know is we're preparing for Tyson fury and That's the only name that you know that I'm here to talk about is the guy that's in front of us. Whatever whatever he does to prepare himself he can do? But we're we're getting ready because we know this is a great great opportunity and a great challenge. I think and I think a narrative you know there's always a perception and reality and there was a narrative that that has been Kinda put out which was basically that fury was winning the fight headed. You know handily had it not been for the knockdowns. I didn't think that at all during the fight as it was happening and I thought the one fifteen one eleven for Deontay was accurate. I didn't think that When I saw the replay I thought you know maybe I'll look different on the differently on the replay but I didn't see differently on the replay. Either I I think I thought pretty accurately There in the corner I knew that Deonte had thrown about a hundred punches more than fury fury landed about thirteen punches. More than Deontay the anti through one hundred more jury landed thirteen more So that tells you right. There was pressing the fight. Fury connect percentage was Was Higher but the was certainly landing the harder punches and scored two knockdowns so to me when I added it all up. You know I thought I thought we had to fight regardless of of of whether it was stop or not. I thought I was disappointed that they call it. A draw now. J. Do you take confidence into rematch. Because you had at that I look at fury and now you have tape of of wilder and fury is the second time better for you. That's a great question I think. Yes I I'll tell you why number one deontay is is really devastating and rematches because he has a very high ring I Q. He's able to make adjustments. It's once he sees you It's in his computer. Then it's computer buying and so he he has a great. Feel for what you're going to do You know the element of surprise is is not is not there he knows your your your vile mechanics and your your your movements and everything. The second thing is the did not score knocked down in round one in four. He's got knocked down in around nine and twelve. That tells you right there that he was figuring fury out so it took a while to figure them out once he did. He scored knocked down and nine and what should have been a knockout in scored a knockdown in twelve. So it was at the end of the fight is my point. So I think that shows that that you'd fury is very confusing. But deontay figured him out and I think that will doc pick right up where we left off. We'll we'll be giving a press conference with both fighters there or are we just going to get this over like A digital flyer wilder and fury posting on their Gee I'm not sure exactly how how all that's GonNa work out I've been I've been Outta town and I'm just getting back so I haven't I haven't caught up on on exactly how I typically I've typically not a big part part of the of the press tour type stuff Just because I've done that before and you know you get there and it's all about the fighters and it should it'd be and and and nobody really asked the trainers anything and so you know I told my co managers Alan Shelly. I was like well you know I would rather her be at home. Set Up Camp and getting getting the guys ready and getting the gym ready and and doing all the things where I'm really useful As opposed to traveling aveling to another location and And being there and getting asked you know zero to one or two questions And and you know the whole time that I'm out there I'm thinking thinking you know. What can I be doing? You know to to camp ready because I'm a camp guy that's my that's my thing and I'd rather be a rather to be working so I I don't know I don't know exactly what I what I was going to be there. I'm sure they'll have several things in the lead up and I'm only interested in those things as it relates to what kind of time. It's GonNa take from camp so in other words if we've got sparring partners in and they meet Deontay at this location I want to know when and where and all that so that I can. I can make sure we get the proper work in that we at J. so there's been overwhelming concern as to whether we're not there's been enough time between announcement and fight. Obviously you just said the part that you love is the preparation getting the camp together contacting the sparring arm partners figuring out who you are bringing in. Do you feel that the time is adequate. Oh Yeah I do because I I. So you you'd really you would really get a kick out of The way I do things because it's so old school it's laughable even my kids make fun of me with it because it's You know pull out all the charts and And then the old school calendars and all the things that they barely even sell and marked everything up and have everything written out and so did that on the counter and it came. They came to be that. We've got plenty of time. We've got our normal camp time. We start camp on the thirty first and you know we we. We control the calendar. The calendar doesn't control us so we don't care if it's Christmas or new years her New Year's Eve or whatever it says we work we work and so we'll be in the gym New Year's even will be in the gym Niggers Day and And and then we'll be bringing sparring partners in immediately thereafter so it the calendar lines up for us to have our normal work and as far as the the quick turnaround. I think. That's it's a great thing for Priyanti because he doesn't. He likes a quick turnaround. He likes to stay active. And this is perfect. We had a month or so off a little little more than that Enjoy the holidays and now we're getting back to work so you know if you think about it. The first time these two guys fall everybody was saying the anti was the more active guy but the truth of the matter is is that period fall twice since Deontay had last fall. Well this Deontay we'll have thought most recently I two and a half months and I think that's a big advantage for us two questions for you. Where do you find a county in? Are you bringing in any part fury hug. Calendars are are not as Everybody uses their phones for that now. But you can still find some good old school calendars at Barnes and noble. They don't have this election. They used to have so. I don't get to pick the really cool calendars that I used to enjoy trying to find the right one but But at the same time you can find him as far as sparring partners go. Yeah we're going to be bringing in a lot of guys you have a new faces coming in I'm You know I looked at the guys we brought in for the last time we fury and Some of those guys will be back. But then I'm also I'm also GONNA go with some new faces is and some Some some some. It's going to be kind of really interesting wolf some young very athletic guys And we're GONNA see See see how they do. But I think I think it's I think it's you know the main thing the biggest mistake you can make when you're fighting a guy like Tyson. Fury is to bring in a bunch of tall guys with with just the height being your be all end all because he's so much more than that he you could bring in Out Six foot seven six hundred eight six nine statue and you're you may as well you. You just may as well be wasting your time. Because there's there's no relevance because fury is very athletic very slick very awkward You know he he. He has a lot of of athleticism and that's really the prevailing thing about him is the Atlanticism so I would rather bring in six five Six four six five six guy. That's very athletic Before I bring in a six nine statue if that makes sense Ajay question kind of Not necessarily on topic but but it is sightsee wise not the actual fee eh. But the location we see that Anthony Joshua continues to get offers from exotic countries countries When are we going to see while to go outside the box? He's always wanted Atlanta. He hasn't been able to kind of get that he spoke about fighting eating out of the country. When do you see that I know? He's tied up with fury for the next two fights but is that still an option at this age because he is getting older and he's now he's starting to say six years and he's done so the clock is ticking sometimes it Sometimes it's a thing where sure it's the later part of your career where those authors book into make true financial sense whereas we're we're other countries are like wow we. We really would like him here. You know before he retires and they start thinking like that so they they start putting the money behind the thought process but yeah absolutely as a world champion. He's always said that he even on the way up. He fought in Mexico a couple of times. Puerto Rico. A time He fought in England and So he's He's always been willing to fight anywhere. you know wherever it made a made sense I know I know that That is just one of those things where You have to go where the fight you know financially where the fight can make the kind of money that can pay these guys. What they're worth that's really what it all comes down to and And and sometimes other countries will you know we've had offers from other countries but They you know the offers haven't been quite what we were looking for and sometimes it has more more to do with Things other than just the money in and of itself as far as the facilities and the You know where you're staying where you're working out how you're getting there. What duration Those kind of things can come into play as well and so we want the ought be as comfortable as you can but yeah to answer your question absolutely if the opportunity presents itself and it makes sense you he will fight anywhere. Have you spoken to since he's been back from meeting the pope and if so how would the conversation with him about meeting the public on the outside looking in I gotTa admit known San Light. That was a kind of a big deal just knowing knowing that I shook his hand he should the pope as crazy. Well somebody said it. The best on the Internet. They said you know his right. Hand the right hand didn't need Blessing but he he it's already blasting he got it. Got Blast asked again so so I'm expecting great things on the right hand Going forward being as how He met the Pope and Got The blessing thing in all. But I'll tell you it was just An amazing once in a lifetime type of thing. I think only two other Riddick Bowe and I think Muhammad Ali Ali had actually met you know the the pope Active vote before Deontay be in the third. I thought it was an amazing thing and I I send globe where they must be. I know this is like like I'm not a star-struck guy. Not a guy that goes around getting autographs and all that I said. But if there's there's any way to get the pope to sign me ago I said that would be really cool so he told me you got it done. So I'm I'm expecting to to get that glow from Deontay days sometime in the next week or two but I think that's pretty cool. How many not many people can say they have signed by the folk definitely initially would be something to look forward to shout out to the again it donkey for remembering that So again Internet loves talk to you had no issue with him going all the way to Italy and you know so close to camp starting like you said it starts on December thirty first all all that is fine but yeah no yeah. I didn't I didn't have I didn't have an issue with it because It was it was it was in advanced enough. It was I can't came from the date of it but I remember it being it was basically mid December so we we we were still good Of course at this stage of his life and career he travels You know in the premium type seating first class type situation so it's not like he was crammed in the middle of a of a row with with his knees and his chest or anything like that he's able to stretch out and And all that so given all that the opportunity was just so remarkable and And he is the he got so much love over there from the fans in Italy and And all that it was that it was just really I think. Think good for his good for energy for soul to to to really feel that kind of an appreciative level You know away from home and to see how people people were so excited and how much they love boxing and all that it just it was good all the way around I think the WBZ put the You know made eight the introductions and connected the DOTS and But but I think he was a great for Deontay and I'm glad he did it because I think it just shows people how big that heavyweight champ is that you know. The heavyweight champion of the world is a big deal and I think somehow someway. We've forgotten that over years but back in the Manali and you know even Larry Holmes and Linac Mike and he dander You know these guys it was. It was the worldwide worldwide thing Recognition level and. When you meet the Pope I mean? That doesn't happen every day so I think that maybe a lot of people's minds got them to realize huge deal this heavyweight championship. So J with the quick turnaround from the Luis Ortiz. Fight to the Wilder fury February twenty-second. What are your concerns with the weight? A coming in on. What type of way do you expect while did come in last night was to nineteen and the fury fight was two? Oh nine and he claimed to be sick. Nick this is also a training camp during the winner. What are we doing to make? Sure he doesn't get sick and he doesn't come in to like fury was just heavier than him. Yeah I think I don't I don't I don't know I think or I have this role but I remember so you know. Of course he was sick for the first Ortiz fight. I don't know that he was Sick for the first Purified I think it was just like I think he just wasn't eating enough and And nutrition was not a big as big a priority for him As it should have been and I think I think he learned from that and he realized that you know he has to make nutrition he has to stop and slow down and say you know what I have to eat. Even though he doesn't he's not really God that that that operates like that But the until you the kind of guy could go a day or a day and a half and just be so busy he just he just hadn't really thought about stopping and eating and he he has he has to realize that he did realize that he's got to get that right because that's important part of staying healthy. Not getting sick is nutrition and getting your rest and all those things. That's why have to the fury fight. When he said he wanted to go back to the basics oppose the greatest thing ever because the basics? Don't just mean technique in boxing. It also means living. You know your life in scituate where you're getting your rest. You're getting your nutrition and all that as well and he did that and you saw the result of the of the fight with Brazil and so when when you add that up. I told him I think you know that. Just shows you how good you can be when you're doing all those little things right you know there's no sense in making a one or two round fight in two eight or ten round fight you know do all the little things right and these fights will be short and And you see he improved upon his performance with Ortiz from fight. WanNa fight to he He got Brazil out of there and one he he. So we're we're looking forward to spectacular performance against period. Have you given any thought that three may pull out or freed may not be ready for that fight because he has the cut over his eye knows we still know. There's still the possibility. And we know business history. Last time he was in a rematch with let he did not go through it Yeah there are things you know you can only control what you can control. I've I feel like he's definitely all and He's a fighter. He's a fighting man he you know it's it's in his blood I don't expect that there will be any reason for him. You know to pull out of the fight The Cut House concern really really more from the wrestling fan point would would there be an an even. Though it's choreographed you certainly could still catch an errand elbow or something that could could reopen that cut But fortunately he's good and now since he fought what mid-september she got mid October. Tober Mid-november Mid-december. He's coming up on almost four months Synthetic cut so if he should be a okay so I don't see any any reason to think he wouldn't I think he's excited about the fight. And I think I think Tyson fury like nothing more than than being the underdog because is he's he's always shown the ability to rise to the occasion when people think he couldn't do something that's when he's at his best and so that the fury we've got to prepare for. He's he's never gonNA do as well as a massive favourite. I'm I mean you know I knew when it came to somebody like Ottawa Lynn that that was a tougher fight than people thought God and he was this massive favorite. And I say this is GonNa be a tough fight. It certainly was but when he's the underdog he he's always at his best and So that's what we've got to prepare for. So there's no concerns with the Alabama winters in possibly getting sick. No no I mean you know anything can happen to anybody you me or our fury or or wild or whatever but I certainly believe that Alabama winters you know our milder than London or Detroit or her you know wherever he is. They're GONNA Cam California or wherever I think I'd you know I'd roll the dice with Alabama. Winters are usually fairly mild. So we're not going to be. We're not going to be running through three feet of snow I can I can assure you that and What do you think about Japan Hill Aka sugarhill stepping in and Andy. Lee being a trainer as well I don't know a lot. I know I know Japan I know he got aw you know. Ties back to a manual as a relative and and he worked with with manny and also I guess we're Jonathan Jonathan. Jonathan banks who I'm friends with So but I don't know I don't know him as well and of course Andy Lee was very good fighter And he fought a lot of his career OUTTA CROCK and You know a really really good south ball so doc. But I don't know I don't know enough about him to really to really give a lot of an opinion then they you know they've always done really good work as best I've ever been able to sell but You know our thing is we just have to. We have focused on what we're doing and that's that's Doesn't really matter what what what fury's he's doing it who he's got. It matters more that we do what we do. And as long as we do that I you know we'll we'll be in great shape. We'll be fine. No you gotta be bringing in any kind of South Pole Barn. Because I know you're not a softball but and this rematch with Derek Zora. He chainsaw that whole fight. Now he's going to sugarhill. WHO's somebody who training even a big powerful softball? So would that be any kind of game plan going into this camp. He switched South Porn. Wallingford pseudo okay. Dami well if you If you charge him puree spends approximately twenty eight percent of the time as a southpaw and so he certainly capable of doing that and and he's capable of doing it very well. A main thing is You know now what they what they have to figure is. Is it worth it. You know by going South Paul. He's putting that high that was cut about five inches closer or to us. So that's something they've gotta figure out if that's worth that risk or not You know that's that's their call. We we deal with whatever you know. Whatever they do? We're going to deal with so that's really you know. The big question is If he goes softball he's you know the gamble he's taking he's putting putting that I hi four to five inches closer to the anti wilder so That that that could be problematic but but yes to answer your question. We will certainly do. Approximately twenty five to thirty percent of our sparring will be with guys working as southpaw. Aw so we will have southpaw help and can't for sure and If he turns out ball it you know it'll be nothing that the as not used to because we just did an entire camp with Getting ready for teas with all south false barring and twenty five to thirty percent of this camp where we softball sparring. So we'll be ready. So is the rhys worth the reward to invest into the body to try and slow down theory from all this herky-jerky ah get outta using the ring and stuff or is it too much danger and a big man going to the body. I think I think I think you know there's always GonNa be times where you can do that and you should go to the body and you can do that with without Leaving yourself open the thing you don't want to do as a tall guy and I think this is what you're talking about. Is Stan Very Tall and then jab or right hand downward at that you know at an angle You know and leave yourself. Open for counter I think there are times when it's beneficial You have to get that kind of body work in and even if you're you know a guy I can move his head all he wants but he can't move his chest it. Can't you know his chest arms All that is is very hit up oil and you can do those things things without compromising your your petitioner leaving yourself open So there's there's a lot of value to that but But yeah he's got to fight all the way around but I think I think that that is certainly something that we will be working on now. Now you spoke about deontay taking nine rounds to figure out fury and then that was confirmed because he knocked them down and then he was able to knock him down again in the twelve in the Luis Ortiz fight. It took him about six rounds to figure figure out Luis Ortiz in the rematch. But he was down on the scorecards. Is that type of game. Plan that you're willing to risk with fury who's a better boxer and and was able to get up or is it style McVeigh's that was for Lewis. Ot's the game plan will be different for fury the game plan would be different The thing about Ortiz Deontay was so smart and intelligent about how he went about it. Think about Ortiz is. Is You know if you put him on a scale. He's GonNa Start very very he's GonNa start a hundred percent and then as a fight goes on He starts wearing down here. are some of the steam comes off his shots as around. Go by so the worst thing you could do with a guy like Ortiz is to go out and try to trade bombs with him while he's at full strength. Um We know that the gets stronger and stronger so if you look at that match up you got one guy that gets stronger anger and stronger. Another guy that gets gets weaker and weaker as the fight goes on. So why would you not take your time. Bernie little steam off the guy and and then if you're gonNA trade with trae when it's beneficial to you and that's what the antique did. Plus you know a lot of times when you're when you're lining somebody up especially somebody it's good as or ts. He's he doesn't want you to hit him so he's he's doing everything for you not to hit him and so it's not easy to get positioning just right and the spacing and the timing and the distance and all those intricate things. It's not easy to get that. Just right where you can land The shots you're trying to land. And of course he he doesn't want you to those show. So what what you have to do is position yourself now. The anti may have lost some rounds while all he was getting that position ride but little by little he was getting his positioning right. So I guess what I'm saying is there's battles and there's there's wars the battles are like round so yeah if you're losing a few of the battles if you're losing a few of the rounds that's okay if you're getting your positioning right to win the war for and that's what he was doing so furious a little bit different. I think you do have to be more active with a guy like Perry Because like I said that he doesn't really have a discernible pattern but but with periods I think you know you have to be you have to you. have to invest more early Than than you would with a gallic Ortiz and my final question do you believe that fury would activate these rematch clause after this fight or do you. You see this fight while the winning in a normal while fashion and fury not wanting an immediate rematch. Well the thing is you've got a couple of issues there number one is you know. Does the guy want a rematch. Course our focus is is this. I you know this fight This is the you know the regardless. This is the one we're dealing with. We're not worried about what happens after but I will say there's two issues to deal with it one is does this guy want To tee it up again and and and and force a rematch causing number two. Is You know where the public stand on the issue So you know if you've had you know you have Mike Tyson and Michael spinks and they had a rematch clause and You know Michael spinks may have said I'm enforcing you know I want my rematch and But you know people would say well you know we'll people by that fight because my knock him out in ninety one seconds So there's the two issues issues is is. How's it going? How does the guy want it and does the public want? That's really the the two issues and those are things that we won't know until you you know until after the fight so you know her thing is let's let's get in there and let's put on a spectacular show. I mean Deontay. Is You know the king being of the heavyweight division. I don't think there's a person on earth unless they're just a hater unless they're just really ignorant or really just an absolute you know hater I don't think there's a a human on earth that knows boxing. That if you said WHO's WHO's the most exciting heavyweight I feel like they. They would say wildfire without even any question and if you say who's must see TV wilder louder who's the most electrifying guy division wilder. Who's the guy you can't blink? You can't put yourself. You can't drop your cell phone. You can't go to the bathroom. It can't can't go to the concession stand like you know the guy that anything can happen at any second and it's all it's all water there's nobody else in the division like him and there hasn't been anybody else in the division in for a long long time so I really think people should appreciate him while he's here and and number two. I think you know people should realize that that that they're witnessing something extraordinary. I think they're gonNA appreciate him when his career is over but I wish that That he would get you know. Continue continue to get bigger stages and bigger bigger and bigger platforms because It's it's an. It's a remarkable thing that's happening right now Somebody with that many any wins and no losses and that many knockout It's it's really quite quite a once in a generation thing and we're we're we're here we're here seeing it now. Think that's pretty cool. Well Jay Man I WanNa thank you obviously for your time. Always appreciate you coming on the show and I would definitely appreciative of your time We hope that you put together a perfect game. Plan a great camp as some grace bond partners which you guys nothing but the best us but Catch on the next one eight. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you so much for coming on. They added Ladies and gentlemen. Gentlemen trainer will renounce of the Anti Wilder J. D.'s. Mike what did you think awesome interview. I was glad they're bringing the south SOUTHPAWS case three defies to implement that tactic. I'm glad he's bringing in new gods to spruce it up a little bit. Yes that was some interesting information man. I liked that I liked that We're going out to all of them. They won't get to right quick. Oh we got some love. Yeah Wow wow now. Three zero two zero one zero eight say none just showing love mayweather. Boxing says Midwest in here already. Step your game up says says Ray Ramon in this bitch squad up. TBB for life. Because my guy every moment of I g and he come back with another one Ray Romano here. Six hundred plus get them likes up yes why why not. Three zero two zero one zero combined with another one. No judge was needed. This time has to bump squad number one heavyweight but killer nineteen eleven all the way in Sweden he says Tyson Theory Crisco was the worst fight ever. Aj verse to hold my beer. Okay maybe that I guess we try to say. Aj to the bad fight. Yeah Lou Lou said that it wasn't exciting. He said lobby on the show. Respect them he say he did what he had to do but he said it wasn't was an exciting. It was element of of suspense. All the way through that Franken had the thing. What if Andy length out again all I could think of is? Aj China style on while like why. Why like that's not what we're here for this the heavyweight division we already got fury dancing around and right now? Are you by the dance to a lot of tap dancers in the UK. I'm telling you got one car going going out to talk to us the the Jazz Kelly style down pick on this Josh Kelley. What you mean that Billie Joe does man? I'll tease. I'm just listening to this. We're going to mastermind in texts. whose big super parts of the opening the calm? Making this Good interview guys appreciate the show. Oh man you know. I was really worried about the fight being be made. Because we've been hearing about favorites we second But it is nice to finally to have an official. I'm super excited for this fight because to me it's really a toss up by Because of the realm of their last performances. You know. I'm not really sure what's going going to happen. traditionally the bossert of better. But you know we'd like we said before wildest traditional punch so that's always interesting and I found that interesting during the PBC poster they've actually acknowledged every B. O. again under Taika theories dream though. That's kind of you know an interesting but they acknowledged login and a past tense. Yeah Yeah F over the former but still they hadn't even other since so. That was kind of interesting to me but I am to meet the House of kind of fighting and I just can't wait man we're GONNA have a big fight party in Texas for You know watch it with all the all the family game together from around man I just I K- wait breath all right champ. Cyp Boomerang what what up. Man You know got Setup wow the southbound got out is because those people who come on his show and give us context L. to the people represented TV. It's funny because you come here like bitches. What is every time they hear something about loud some related to level in going there compensation talking shit? Every day. She started getting weird I bear. She's getting weird because because we're from a day on the show eight hundred on the show like you guys are always fighting. Hand that fucking Fiji. 'cause you come here every single day which means that you need. It's medicine visit. You need medicines. Got The needle. Doing Muscle connects 'cause that's where we are seeing the light in your s your disappear as they got us more fucking asking. y'All bundy admitted at the stick around. But when it's all going to get the best that you'll come back. This is hard on your ankle. Never fucking stop Yagi Auden fucking hill and I'm here to see what the spending a nice Entertaining call from C. P. I'm telling you Burma Rang No. You're it was a good interview this hour. We give up a T. V.. Thank you wow squad. Yeah man so you already know man how we get down over. Him Bio scribe. Brian is going to be the same outcome with every other rematch. That we don't think this man then I'll know how fight on glades Agley Angle coalition it. One day I do fucking right hang on Labra grab a gonNa be looking up again and we're GONNA have a different refereed town. 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Thank you because Blog talk is done man and I can't I can't three way them. No Problem Ladies and gentlemen we have a another special special guest for you guys that they're promoter on saying been around the best to do it. Then Crawford may well all of them by Bam in. I think I think the questions that we need to buy X.. Bob Arum probably going to be about the promotion. I'm not saying what was it that are coming out But the part that's coming out and doing doing it like straight to like the I g things like that and is there on your Fisher. Press conference no win. Where how many is there going to be? I sitting on saying like. Are you guys going to put this together. I WanNa know like the the timeframe like eight weeks eight weeks. This is a short amount of time to try to promote defy. It make as big as big as you say because you you've talking about two million two implies so that's a lot of buying for a pay per view of a fight and that's like almost coin ten times what they did the first time so a lot of questions. Try to hit them back. That's that's probably why facetime he just texted me say in London. He got off phone though. We should be good. Should be okay if I know. But if he has back Connect them if not man another day. Another show Who we who Yadda who's on at the time man? You give me the line a lot easy. We got all Noto we gotta go to bomb boxing when a BAA all right. He's working so stainless choice. It all right. Well we're going gone to California. It's the portion of the show. We call bio. Oh Yeah Oh shut out to the boxing guys. Man Shot up to the boxing. Gospel T. V.. And out to the boxing God's for this spike being finally official announced Yo name put a car just be on the billboard the Gypsy kings versus the Cango would conduct clash of the titans. which all think that's right right? Yeah Oh we already know what's going to happen while they're going hitting with that vibrate neom Mike you finish the risk to crack his mouth fucking but is it cranium. That's right that's right that's right and that's your point. Come all my yo sat out and see me man prow pa-past number one Hit those thumbs up man great interviews news. I love the one with Lou Dibella most man that keeps it one hundred. But he's been saying on What Georgie Pours? He'd been saying all along wrong. Man He said is correct. The sport that we love I hate to say is corrupt is corrupt Man I was just surprised is how blatantly he was just saying how even the judge is tied in with the networks. Or you know the the the belts in all Kinda shit man so we you know we we take take a few steps up in this sport man but man. We got a lot more to do to make sure his tightness all right man but tb hit those thumbs up. You're listening to the number one pound for pound boxer. podcast Voice of the people. There is no equal amount. Thanks for calling in Info Joe we going out to address in the UK. Yes yes people. We'd say I'm Mike what's good man you know is yeah. Yeah Yeah of course some matter innocent. That's how long ago today marks marks the anniversary investor Of Five years of TB. She have to give me like twenty five minutes. Oh my cutting Mama on my phone just popped up guys. How listen WHO's under Jay talking to? Jd Is Lewd Abella non fuck would atman listen. This is all year in twenty twenty. Get to know in Assam China China Sea while he's going down third fight. He's going down. Everybody fights is going down this this I don't have that peachy prop about that fatal. She was it him and UK guys. How many of them before he put one and he lost realistically in a skit roof? Instant GRANDPA pop. The they hate that. I'M NOT GONNA lie the TV instagram's my favorite page on instagram. More recognition man. Just carry on rhythm things in it but listen Mike a spiritual is gonNA come out there. I WANNA come out to this fight soul badly. What's what's the whirlwind weekend? My going out there might might trying to push it around man Mike you here I mean if my go I go real simple as that. You know what I'll tell you one thing. Yeah let me tell you. Let me to boxing. Nobody at that. What's that trading off? sugarhill this I wouldn't take too much noise of you know Sons and nephews instead of like you know realistically did not the same. I don't don't want it will never be running. This guy will never be whatever the sky is the only guy give into as is probably Shane. mcguigan most of them. Just just POPs his sons in it. I just get ready. We'll be good. I say they just they pop ages man. Thanks for calling in and did get an extra thirty seconds there buddy you know. We were generous. The seven talk to me. What else am and not working? So check coming in then from the Guy Seven hisself asks Jay Abou- body work in the wild theory to rematch. This cover. That for you the killer nine hundred eleven next asked ask him about the body work so he can soften that bitch up. He's stop him katrine apart killer all in the UK trail. I know he from Sweden wait. They got to relate to that. Oh no and Kaby zero. Nine seven says free walkout with that dog face. Oh My guy if he got that if I were that the Dow Shit on the phone he go make a snapchat Emoji mass down. Let me get out to Josh North Carolina. What did he what do was on TV? The how you doing. Hello okay this this. Why won't see man? Hey Man got them with theory in water fight. I hope my boy wider out of coming in at two twenty five and work that body more and I think this fight. It'd be over six rounds. Six hour you Jay. I'm on my big black Terminator Math Service but I think it's going to happen in another thing after why they get done here. I'll know what his next. I hope it was next. Fight is out of the country but I wouldn't mind seeing him. Aj thought in Saudi Arabia. You for that mother fucking day. Oh Yeah Mike. I hate to say book book across the Bitch. I'm out with him. He you can talk to a safe. We went around in a seven. Oh No sir well then seven fucking parleys man man. I thought you guys doubt about me man because I told you to come back so real quick. I've always said what Well wow they're trying to say that Fury had everybody was talking about very coming up his layoff as if it was the first bag like mayweather being with Marquez. Or somebody like that where he came fresh off the street and fought the best Tampa. Pam Theory has seventeen round that year. Wow the only had a team and he was also like eight nine months. And that's always been my statement through nine rounds. It said wow the time to catch up with him because he had been out the rain for eight nine nine months now. There's no excuse. But that was the fact and I'm glad he pointed out that I wouldn't on anyone thinking about that part of it because people try to play the next thing godless I'll say dishes praised put. TV The rest of my call Debt I interview. You guys. Keep doing what you're doing. I like the fact that you aren't afraid. The accident tough questions. You guys question the guy down from the boxing. Whoever you from Abba? WBAI B. O.. Wherever you got nasty was hard on them Mike you win afraid to do bill tough questions today. That shit adult man. I left your five star review. I don't know if you read it but That's kind of what I was talking talking about. I used to watch the breakfast club because all the main will hold people accountable. They got away from this year. At some point somebody sign. You guys already know what's going to happen when they tired. You guys don't change. Who the fuck you are? Keep asking the tough courses key. Clinton a your foot on people's throat and doing it the right way and people are GonNa keep watchman you guys. DOC will give more following the great interviews today. That's my car right. It might You got a little better relationship with female male. You GotTa get not a female because we gotTa Test This Medal C. O. C.. I was just about to say Texas metal about the one that strap. Is he still around phone knowing say he was gone probably a little bit more strenuous. No I'm it's like you for the most part. I feel like we should be getting on Harrison on told him to claim. We'd love to have mon so I John Shallow to roll back to you. Does He. Coming on what I need adult man the holidays. You just got to keep those. Mike was saying you know. It ain't fucking WHOA. What am I would say? Why are they going to end up being a profit? That's why they call us fan boys over What he say Wh What's undisturbed. Mr Don't need to be explained as I know what he was doing. And Salute you just know assing that you will you the truth. Touch potential talk to us. We do Yemen looking forward to this fight but happy. I said now awesome surprised. It wasn't a twenty twenty months. Surprised Sir Twenty seconds giving yourself time to prepare a Looking at the Looking at the new world champion coming in appropriate world champion this law whatever a Lineal title only reason being I love while water supply of just I can't see the decision and I'll say this. Oh to the judges and if it goes to the judges while loses I could see I could see lucky down theory but no more to what's Casiraghi up because you know he's a gypsy so so Yeah decision if his decision. This is impossible for world. It's wiggling auto decisions so it can only go that way. You know that crazy tougher book says where he has to knock out his opponent every single time islands We learned from sports. That's just never going to happen. You cannot you cannot look at every single opponent especially as you as your opponents get better in quality than Than some of the people in the past so he'll be back them show the afraid of them will be to come yes. It's fury's time to shine a think aloud front is gonNA live in American trader crop. Jim and I mean that rookie Honesto stowe so yeah it was. We'll see what something but I just can't see Bought a decision in any main defiance. Thanks cuts breath gangster. No seriously yellow to do that on that level newsreel cameras on a level. That's Yo in the face of face to face ace though. That wasn't no that wasn't no. LemMe Lemme just You Know Gissin on my chest not let me teach your were lesson. But that was that was that was see. I'm old that was classic smack. DVD I can't man video going. I've been hurt. I've been heard two stories. It was video. And Wow wow but what was understood like you said I ain't got to be talked about. Carl's Y Z. What up wow? What a baby talk now? Cement was good. The pilot in my hand right now might want to smack yourself across a Bluesy the knowledge. No I'm great. I'm glad that is is being made in on Sunday announced it. I'm glad for it. You know what I'm saying. I can't wait to see the answer to knock Tyson furious smoothie Fuck Out Nam saying decapitation season But Oh you know. I'm Kim mccollum showing sweeper before I go Michael and I'm out for Dan Pat. We've got pat your yeah he's Jr Oh shit we got missed the PBC in the build knowledge about Tom you late chat the champ made the announcement where you've been at me window shopping because I don't care what Mr The we see ya eh. What's up man? Then yeah let me give my boomerang to on this. He will good Mike. You mean in Luke I pressed one and then it didn't go through and then I pissed it against that. I'm on. I'm on the huge so I don't know This was a beautiful day for TV. Just like it's GonNa be a Beautiful Day in the neighborhood for PBC GPC Tyson foods really ready for it. I mean this is family cooking him dinner enough to WanNA fight beyond okay. Wilder wife not feeling so nervous for this sees you live. They're gonNA call through because he had the same rematch with what's his name. Chris go so stop negative energy. I'm sorry I'm sorry. Don't you want to fight this. This is a beautiful day. Though I mean I know they're ready in There's so many obstacles with some go through this committee. Type saying he cannot be onto water out so is he going to bring that same fight like Anthony. Joshua did to the dude beat him up. So we're going to see how this is GonNa go down and I can't wait way to have my family together. We got the water t shirts we all the way through with it. You know. I'm I'm ready to pay for it on the APP I wonder if they're going to be on. 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#214 - Bobby Lee & Khalyla

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#214 - Bobby Lee & Khalyla

"Welcome everybody today's free podcast joined. Of course, by course I mean we have a different guest every week, but it's Lila this episode is sponsored by draft. And me on these? How are you guys doing these strange odd times. Well you know living is like living with Miss Hannigan any She's very strict. I haven't been to a grocery store, I haven't been. To gas stations, I haven't been door rave. I haven't been to a club. And I haven't been I haven't seen my mom wait hang on one second. That's crazy talk. He's a bad son. He's a bad son. I have repeatedly asked him check on your mother make sure that someone sends her grocery. She's eighty years old. You're a bad son texter every day. Texture every day. How long does the techs interaction last? Is it like, Hey, how are you and then you piece out? I can read you some interactions that we have we've. Yet, how how long? Conversations are like this. So she'll. She'll always send me like some sort of these memes those are They're just quote unquote. So she'll have a great quote. Have a great week ahead wishing you all a great week Phil filled with smiles, taverners, and all the good things in live. Then, I'll just go I. Love you mom please stay safe out there. Don't get covert, but they're all like that I would just one line. Love. You Mom. She doesn't meet you, and so you think that's quit communicating. With his, mother. I do I'm more of I don't like Pretty Talk I. Like what are you doing with your hands to help her navigate? A Pandy. So Miami. So like when with my parents because I have a fear of them going to the grocery stores I make sure that food is always delivered to the floor and they have produced and things like that. So they don't you don't feel the pressure to have to like step out weekly because they're old. So bobby does Colella like her parents more than you like year. Ethan don't be got. Don't be that. Don't buy. Don't don't swallow the pill don't be like that. Okay. Right you're supposed to be on my side not chicken opera. I'm excited. Thank you mother even before the Panty. Wore. A bt ask mask. Right, correct what's Behind the scenes is a k pop group. So she's obsessed with K pop. Were Mascow US days she. She wore the mask you know who? Before even the pandemic so I know that she's wearing a mask. BBC, wearing a mask because I. For fashion. Your. Goes outside she wears like this. It looks like Darth vader like Summer Mass The pandemic started she already had a whole collection of masks is your is it like an Asian thing because I know Asians like the mask is that as it just like that's so that's so like you even ask that. well, hold on. Yes. Yeah. Yeah it's not my mother is also Asian but she's also very a centric. So yes, I think she it is kind of an Asian thing. Yeah you're right. That may ask you another question. What does she wear gloves when she drives? One one. Yeah like Michael Jackson. WHAT IS CAT Have you. noticed. that. Nobody Asian women were gloves when they drive and. I swear to God. I mean, how would I know that she wears a glove? I would I know that? Yet she just. I don't know why she wears ask these questions because then go down a rabbit hole. A buddy he doesn't understand the call the fashion mentioned into all things. So it's like I just kind of want I, look at her she wears Bandannas and head heads. Funny Glasses. Like a lot scars I style. Power clashing I feel the power clashing was made. Made? Wonderful. By older Korean women, will I made her cry? Before the pandemic started, their last interaction was a giant fight and meltdown or Hawaii because he was really upset that about her obsession with bt s slim meet later explain. Okay. Wait what. Okay, go ahead. Let me explain. Okay. So There was a time where my mother, an I, our phones were linked. Because she she was on my. One of my I tunes, right. So we had our my email was attached to her phone. So all her photos would come down to my photos writing and okay I'm not kidding you. Few would screen shot. Two to three thousand photos. Of bts a day way hold on. Are we really talking about bt s the Korean pop band so Obsessed really. Yeah. When we gave her a bt stuff for Christmas last year she cried wait. Are you going with me? I swear to. fucking. Have a photo of her wearing a mask. I what I'm hearing that you're. Fan Okay. Joked about it before and you act like. Like. No. Wow when I met. That's what I meant. Oh. Yeah. This is real. This is fucking real. Wow. Okay. Okay. So we're in Hawaii right and she was staying in the hotel room and we were driving around and I was with my brother Colella and I would look at my phone i. Spend maybe an hour a day, a racing on. Three thousand has screen shots. And I just snapped I. was like All. Right. So we we raised. My mother sitting on the bed screen shotting beats. Yes. I think she's playing with old. Coochie. Good. I know that's what I think I'll be. Right. Why? Why she? Just, goes okay okay. She's playing with her coochie watch like looking at. Wouldn't like in my mind. Eighty ad your year old mom is a fan. How does that happen? I don't know. So what did she do these school shots? I don't well here she makes this is where I had to play mediator because it was a whole big family meltdown between. Apparently she was crying by the time Bobby had actually confronted her she was crying and she was like seeds because I like to make these collages because I'm a superfan she's our man. She's Army for sure. What does that mean? Couldn't. Says she makes collages and then she just save a monitor phone Digital scrapbooking for her to pass the time. What I'm hearing, how did she eighty and she's so into all this stuff that like he's actually a lot more Internet savvy than most older people like she's able to navigate. Doing it stop talking doing. Okay but. Doing so That's what your take was. Your mom just stop you. I walked in. I go. FUCKING Beethoven like. Beatles. She goes and she fucking Chris Crying. ambling, she takes the blanket of the fucking hotel bed. Covers a row body is she goes. I like what I like. I think she said she started crying under the blanket. My joy is my joy. Joy Joy. Joy Joy. Joy. You said that. And then collide was taking a shower and then we just sat there and my mom's like underneath the blanket crying. Fuck to do, right. I kind of want to do like A. WWF just wrestling and slam her body. That's how enraged I was but then I'm like not sure wait until. Collect comes out as she hugs her and the she made it all better. But I i. swear to fucking God mail. It's because him an him and his brother at this one is like she was in a corner crying and they just wouldn't relent and then now I realized the root of it all. I think that because bt 's boys represent a complete opposite of everything, bobby is. He thinks, yes, he feels really offended that maybe his mom. has this like. Finally has the perfect sons. Alice in what way Colella? Like. You know their. Talents UH. Even. This guy right here? Pretty. That's what it is. That's exactly what to the seem like how you dress or does she hate it? Made the Mola. Yeah I mean Yeah Dude. What are you doing? Not Be the BRO. I check it out broad dude a first of all this is pandy me. This is not this civilization. Civilization me I. I you know I put on the moisturizer put fancy Cologne on and I wear nice clothes. But in when no one's GonNa, see me who gives a shit I'm seeing you I mean everybody's saying this is the first time I'm doing this. Show. So I think that's what it is. My my mom right is like the other Koreans right that likes. That's they like polished good looking. Shiny Shiny objects it's like my brother and I are like little pieces of. Shit. You know what I mean. We're like little catch it shiny objects and I guess I get fucking offended that I'm not that I. Definitely. That's what it is I. Think I. would be upset too. That's so and I. Yeah Right. Thank you. But do you think bobbies maybe bobbies onto something like the he has some right to be like, why does she obsessed with these little? Dolls and but like she doesn't WanNa like why does she need her son? She wants to fuck them. Yes sure and who doesn't. Two. Our Molly fucked up. Yeah. She does she does often say though when you ask her why she likes them and she says I feel like they are my son. Up. LA-. Don't clap. Hid. It. Clap. Right you don't stand up and give him a standing ovation. She. Says she feels like her son. She feels a warmth towards them in a pride as if they were hurling. Met People love bts. It's an incredible phenomenon. How how? How The whole I'm honest. It's unbelievable. You know. For me I don't. Anything Bank you. Don't say anything bad about them. Not say anything bad because you know about them. Yes. Able to infiltrate the army is really a a kind of a force on their own and they're almost like a political force. Really. Governing Body, they're part of NATO I. I love what they've done politically. So I my. Chest Really I. think they're super talented maybe one song. One Song. I don't think Bobby understands quite what the army does at all or what their influences on even like twitter and able to do. My favorite song is dynamite. It just came out to. Talk. It's awesome. I. Know, I, like all of them, it's hard to. First of all I know what the military is or what an army. Platoon I've seen saving. The so I get what it is. It's an army of people that support. Bt S and number two I have these dreams about bt US about you know. Do you ever see the human centipede? Yes. Yeah. So I have a dream of they're all surgically. Oh. All. Right. Each Other So bobby do you ever see yourself? Maybe do you have fantasies about joining bt s? No because I feel here's the deal. I feel like I've tried I've tried to carve out my own thing. You know I've worked hard. That's another thing I think I don't think my mom respects me You know you know I you know I. Do game shows I do podcast. Comedy you stand up absolutely s she doesn't respect that. You. Know you know it's like you know hey jude. Face I want to know do you think his mom respects his profession? Yet but it's a typical. You know Asian mom does relationship where it's like they won't give it up to their own kids God. Forbid you show any type of like give your kids any real praise but? She does respect you and love you and is so grateful for your existence you. No. I'll give you an example. So I wasn't a movie I was at Novi. How is it a movie like sixteen years ago it was called kicking it old school and it was a break dancing movie with Jamie Kennedy. And it was. It was premier night one theater in Arizona where my parents live where it premiered. So my parents went to eight o'clock show, right. And my dad called goes. This nobody he's it. And I go. What do you mean? He goes we ended up. Nobody here. I go. Oh. Them trying to make me feel. So I go watch it anyway. If nobody here watch and. Oh. My God, they left. They never saw. Sad the after the whole bt s meltdown in Hawaii he was trying to still kind of proved his worth to his mom. I'M BTS was coming to Pasadena before the pandemic happened vets was supposed to be in Pasadena the summer performing and to try to wheeled his power he said Ma I can get you backstage to beat. This. And then her eyes lit up and she was like really. And then I know what it was just a flex it was you know. I called everyone that I knew. They're hard to get. Everyone I knew. Was this. Yeah. But you know. So that's why I haven't really talked to her since I text or read a to say that movie theater anecdote is pretty sad that must have hurt. It hurt. But either old school Koreans and you know I think I know deep down inside that they're. Proud of me I guess maybe you know my dad died but like my mom still I don't think I was on a game show I don't think she saw any of them but I mean it's fine. I get the old school vibe it's just like. It's just so different like you. Just have to accept it. It's the same for me I. Always I've growing up always heard my mom praised just about everybody except for my sister. And I think that it's even up until today it's like you only really get the true feeling on a birthday card right when say year they spill their guts on Cry, you have this moment like crying because Oh my God your mom actually loves you and values you. But for the rest of the year, it's a whole lot of. Cards is it like? Is it like a hallmark card that she writes a ton on or is it like Homo? See my mom. My mom is a hallmark card and then she just writes happy birthday and then it's all about what's written on the home of the car. That's why I don't understand that shit I go. Why do you care about cards because it's like? I throw them out. It. was someone else wrote that? You don't mean that you don't need it. Yeah. Yeah. Probably even read it. Probably. went to the fucking in a pharmacy or are they got it from? Yeah. Go disliked colorful and happy birthday. Yeah. Does your mom give sprinkle you would love all throughout the year. I don't know I think my parents love me but like they are. either. You better answer that you can be honest about it I think. They do it's different from me because they're different from my family. Parents are fucking crazy. Say that. It's just that if I'm I mean they do. Yeah. They look just weird. Show it. It's just For me it's. They might send there listening to this and they live nearby us and like come over like once a week. So that's nice. So that's nice. But like Ella's embarrassed to say anything. It's no, it's just that. My mom is very Affectionate and loving and. died was like the opposite. So I grew up with like two polar like my dad was. Never, said I love you never never. Anything just do like that, and then my mom is the opposite so. And then when it comes to his by, there's just totally different. So I, I don't know how to put it in words. You know I don't. WanNa say anything offensive. Ethan. Say I love you to you? Yes. So You Tequila. Every. Area. Building. I, don't mean it. You're smart enough since say. Relationship you guys like with covert and everything you guys get healthy? You guys feel strong. I think we feel strong today I. Think there was a little bit rocky in the beginning. I think a lot of people trying to match up how you're going to approach a pandemic because my thought I had one plan and he had another planet. We just weren't really lining up with with how we wanted to go about like safety installment. Up. Youngblood you guys are on the safe side because I see. So many people are not. Crazy to me. Crazy talk we all gotta do our part because you know. The fuck did I agree, I think that those who can do their part and who have the? Should yeah and the ones because there's so many others really can. It's like. Well, let's kind of try an offset the ones who can't buy you know. Get people need that need to survive in the payrolls go to work I get all that right. But I. don't get like going to a beach party. You know what I mean. I don't get you know. So it's for me. You know I You know a lot of people don't scoff but they think that you know you know two hundred, two, hundred, thousand deaths in the grand scheme of things. Is An is an ally Orion but for me, it's like I think about each and every how that affects other people's lives you know. So it's like to me it is a lot. It's a fucking lot who's going. To meet a lot you know. covid past cancer as the number two killer of people in America now. Cause Cancer Dude If you imagine two hundred, thousand people in an arena. Imagine that they. They're all gone right I mean that's heavy. That's heavy. Shit. Yeah. Hey Bobby. Did. You know that you have a two point? Eight six on. Wicky feet. Out of what out of. Office. So bad. I mean that's pretty bad score. This is my backup noise. A. Backup. WHAT DOES LOCK Go, why would you even fucking asking me that? No, no no. Okay. Model number. Two point was at two point eight six. Wicky fee bobby. Lee. Your percentage by five. Okay. So it's Like you know fifty. Fail Bay. labral. Yeah, it's embarrassing. Coke okay okay. Let me say something. All right number one foot model. Number two, I don't give a fuck about my feet never have never will because those are the the. Wheels. Right, right Gilbert. So like your wheels right can be dirty because they're the ones that are on the ground right holding up the weight of the fucking car. And your car you after. Writing right they go or whatever they might do with the car. But the if you look at someone's put pretty the wheels are pretty dirty. And they don't wash them every day. No Wash your tires on your car. You do not address the Nail I do wash my feet if. I don't know why. Why must you you're gonna get him dirty again, take a shower every day right? Okay. You're right I do that and also eat the Ethan. Can I say something okay and and and I I have I have put fungi yes. I, know and I talk about that all the time on people's podcasts you everyone knows that guy you. Score. That's my score. The rumor mill. WHO's taking photos of my feet? You go there. You can see the photo. Here randomly show your foot. Here you go. Can you guys see this? Yeah, me see. Oh. Okay. Can I I. CAn't. So like these. Young. People who submit to wicky feet. They're so sharp. They don't miss a thing did. Show they got it but I guess from looking at it, they don't look about it. Being so. Because of the room, it's all about the react. Rumor I have cute little yellow feet from the sandos pro you wearing sandals on a talk show. that. Fix. When I did that? Yeah. See now you live smart. Yeah, these guys will get you every time. Okay. So yeah. So my feet look that bad but you know for me, that's what I got in high school those grades. Par Par all season high school. He doesn't make me feel bad. Yeah. Yeah. What is your? What is yours on week if? Well, I'm glad you asked. COIT and pull it up. Whoever did the did the? Oh. Yeah. Go ahead five, point four, six at a five I have a beyond perfect score. Y. Ridiculous. Beyond. Our Tokyo. So can I ask? Honestly I'm being self conscious about it and I wanNA ask everyone listening. Okay. What does one do to get a higher score dude I feel like it's too late. No no I this is you WanNa know how I did that 'cause I just because every time I have a guest on. I bring it up and I. Tell all my fans go gimme five stars wake you feet and then when i? Don't like there's this guy came star who a piece of Shit on Youtube I say go give him one-star wicky pull up team start Zwicky in. This is how I get back people go give. FIVE-STAR WITH A. Bobby deserves a five star you guys they'll make it listening. This year you want to see what happens to my enemies keeps star out of five stars. You see what I'm saying. Yeah. Everyone everyone listening to me I'm going to do a plea and I'm GONNA get. Emotional because. Okay. So dear fans and dear people listening. You may not know me okay but I'm Desperado. I'm in deep deep panic mode. Please you know my I think I've been judged because based on the photos right I don't think the score equates to that right. So please I, beg of you give me a higher score and it'll make it'll make my pandemic. Far More I feel much better. Please help me please help me. It does feel good. Yeah, they'll do it started interrupt we got to go to break. Remember that. Bobby break? No. That was a soundbite. Remember the last time you're on, you're selling a really emotional story and then Dan interrupted you. Because that's like a me on our show now. and. So we use that sound bite all the time of Dan interrupting, you played again. Sorry to interrupt. We gotta go break. We play that sound bite all the time look at is that Dan right there at the pitcher. I don't know what you're saying. Ready Amer. And then play the other one. Thanks, Dan. Yeah. We play that one time areas again. Yeah. Thanks. Actually, do we need to go to break? Yeah that's actually true. Okay we so we're. Okay. Do. You have anything to say bobby before we go to break I just said. No I'm just kidding. Okay, let's. Go let's go. Let's go to break. Okay. Sports are finally back in particular football is back and draft kings. 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I have fears. Here I just. I. I don't know like I don't know who does hypnotherapist is I don't know look like intake of bobbies like susceptible background. I've also seen the movie old boy and I just. I just think that he's GonNa frigging have an octopus in his face one night when I come home and you know. Do. Strange things around. So. If I'm understanding you mistrust this person tinkering around in his brain. I don't think that you just meet someone one day and without them knowing all the things triggers whatever. He's a long history of trauma and just start fucking around and walk taking a walk in his head I I don't like he's a professional. He doesn't know. We did go to. We didn't go to home depot outages randomly. We fucking went to. The. King of all, he looks like Lex Luthor. Yes. Therapists are bald right? He wears a scarf around his neck. That's fucking legit right? He didn't do no fucking. Ball or a little thing to the no he was pulled the old school new school new school hypnotist. He got me in I went onto a beach in my memory. So he got me all relax go to your favorite place I went to my favorite place right and they. went to a different. A world and I was completely relaxed in and he was implanting little things in my brain. I think what? We don't like. What do I look scared because she's like, what are we implanting? Yeah little seeds are replanting in your head that we're now watering. Kill coalisland yeah. So you know I don't. I don't know a thousand hypnotherapist I've met maybe two and a half. But from from this guy compared to the other guy, he seems legitimate. I'm basing. Drums, I have I have an ex friend who is a hypnotherapist and a rocky healer and I think that she's absorption rate. It's A man I'm from GONNA friend people might it sounds like bullshit what is it? It's like like Oh this shit where they don't touch you. Right, but it like you're supposed to feel he. Just. Yeah it. Is For me it's just a little bit quirky but you know. Do you think the hypnotherapy is quirky. No. No I don't think. I think the guy seems legit. I was basing it off my. Who is a hypnotherapist and I think that she is unqualified and? Write A. Disaster of a baby baby baby you have you have hippy desert friends they give you crystals and then you take the crystals a on the side of the bed. Wacky? No no I had. My best friend is a free diver and she collects these things from the bottom of the ocean and she brings him back from Mexico, and she gives them as a friend put to the bed like it's going to eliminate like it's going to and human. Cool it's a cool marine. Do believe that the crystal infuses you're being with with some kind of energy I own zero crystals, zero crystals. I saw crystals. Crystal. Rather than from the land or underwater so fucking Christie's crystals and stuff i. don't she's a crystal lady. Defensive. Let me. Let me let me ask some questions here is the hypnotherapist have credentials? Does he have a degree of any kind? He is the master of all. No. I asked okay. Does he have a degree? Listen I know I'm not beats. Yes. Okay. I don't have the key the maybe they could get like the grandmaster of a hypnotherapist and I can get like above average person walks special hypnotherapist is he is he is he a psychologist? Does he have a background in this kind of Shit or is he just some dude who puts on a scarf and let's talk about your? Divide, and that's a good very. Therapy at the. S That I didn't go where's your credentials? I think our producer found, where did you find them? Online. Deutch. Doesn't sound that prison. Wait what's his name on craigslist. Asking to ask them to see if he has a degree, you can find online did. You find a degree in Beverly Harvard. So. I am curious about what is it like? What is the process of gang a? hypnotized is our you're are you being hypnotized? Yes. So the process is he close your eyes he and he said you're on an escalator are you laying down? No in the share specific specific here came to your house. No. Resumes I was in this chair. Right. So he told me to escalator. In the NICO's open up a door, a golden door, the opened up the golden door, and then he goes now you're wherever your favorite most relaxing places Mine was a beach in in the Philippines someone on the beach, and then all my friends were there in a laid in the water and then I kinda fell asleep. And then when he said to wake up I woke up really yes. So there was like that's really interesting is a five minute gap there why don't really remember what he did really live that's so interesting. Yeah. So the I. was just sitting there in silence. I. I'm I'm the dumb dumb. Dumb. Dumb. I. worked. Even either check it out. So when he says now wake up I woke up. So that means I was listening the whole time. Yeah. No I agree you got hypnotized. Bro. I don't like. Account for five minutes. Very Rapi. Yeah what me to? Zoom rate me he's. He. He kind of like. A little bit because you back out and then you wake up and you don't remember what happened and he all good and you just say. I woke up. My asshole did hurt. Bobby. Walk walk properly a couple of days. Okay. So excuse me so. When you do that, what's GonNa have you heard I have I have gerd disease gasped. Yeah. You've her five started getting it really badly after the bts fight this is actually not even a lie on our plane ride home from Hawaii I just I had to get the Barium X-ray and everything like it was. It was it was up to here to all. My throat as is Super Fleming. It's just I have I've had this problem for a long time I take medicine stuff. So Wait. Is that the only thing wrong with the or other ailments? No, that's just the one that's most apparent to you right now. You out there I said that's the only one that's most apparent to you right now. Okay. I have a lot of problems. Do you have psychological meds? I take anti-depressants. Joe, what about you about? I take a couple of things I take. Beta blocker. And I also take as a high blood pressure medication loaded I'm loaded and that one sleeping med that helps you jerk off. quit. Mean my my dig knows like, would it I mean it? I mean there's no. A floating what they're gone. I can see you. Can't see you but There's really not feeling my now you know because I don't take indication that's why I would think that your sensitivity would increase from stopping. No it's kind kinda like A. Numb. But like kind of like it's not as 'cause when you take, you know I used to take Unicom. To masturbate and down, we eat the the the the ejaculation was so powerful. Yeah it was like you know when David Carradine's tied his neck now the dorm. had. Concluded that I don't know why comfort would need to do that. But concluded that any did end the lead singer of inaccessible that too. Yeah that's how they. Embarrassed by the must be good. It must be really good though because but I mentioned the cops showing up the cops showing a you're just. Imagine you're completely naked you A. Rope tied your neck. DOORKNOB or whatever, and your hand is on your penis and you're just a corpse not really are you king shaming and Dead Guy. Because I will say he was probably in absolute ecstasy on his way. Did you guys did you guys ever make love when Bobby was on a UNISOM? One of his stipulations, he wouldn't do it without the own my goodness. So how's your love life now that he's off that stuff or could I tell you what you did either. A hole in which part not Virgin Blake effort the other one. The other one. Yeah. Because we've never said this before. I WanNa know about that. Character it's real playing. The she. She has a crush. She has a crush on somebody. Celebrity celebrity not someone knows. Now, what's his first name Edgar Ramirez Ramirez all right. So can you picture in? I WANNA. See who were tour fantasizing about. Is it one of the. Young. All right. Let's see how we got here. Interesting rugged. Yeah. Why Eight? Yeah. He's he's Mexican Mexico. He is. Yeah. So. So so she was give me a blowjob their day. My Edgar Ramirez. and. Better. 'cause she's ever GonNa Perform. She was doing things like fucking sticking the nuts and the Dick in the mouth he was like doing Gurgle Gurgle gurgling. I was so offended I'm like. That's how you Edgar Ramirez A. Better. Stopped. Edgar Ramirez and then she went to standard like. With is off to get it over with. It's like you hypnotized her. Offended by that but you know what are you GonNa do? I mean I would just accept the. You just gotTa ride the have. At you ask for. So long when you ask where you kind of you. was almost like a bluff right or she's like. You are scared that she was going to go crazy for that. Guy Edgar, I was it was a curiosity. Let's see if it's different if I was Edgar Ramirez Right. Shock. Of the but the shock of you know realizing that. That she would have blown Edgar Ramirez so much better. And she normally does well. It's like a one time passion. I think if she was fucking Edgar Ramirez for however long you guys been together you probably get into he began regular blow job as well body. Edgar Mir saying imagine I'm Bobby Lee. Right, and then you take the dick out. But who was the other one you guys were mentioning? What was the other? For Jake. Blake. Man. All Right You can't do me like that. Find with. It. So I don't we don't want you here on the Internet right when we talk about people don't like the fact that I'm with her really Y. Yeah. Yeah. Because go she's only with you I'd still read it every day on comments. You guys have been. Money. Awkwardly, and she is pretty. So you know a wise up or row and people will just say that and it hurts my feelings. Yeah pretty let your feelings I mean like. Really, just like fuck of my entire life before knowing you like fuck everything or. Whoever I was before him it's all I've just been reduced junior that well, let me just say that. I can't believe are still saying. Sorry our doggone crazy. I don't know why people can't accept him. Bobby would have a a beautiful loving girlfriend. First of all, you have a lot going for you. I mean thank you I really do I'm not I'm not. I'm not trying to be a nice guy you're talented. You're funny. I mean sure you have a tiny penis but like. That Thank you. penises. Because, you guys even have a podcast together can see your interaction. You can see that it's a real relationship. Wailua lots of complexity and. The real deal I don't know what what is there to even like. What was they people act as if she was the first I've ever had. been with. I've been with a lot of attractive women, some not as attractive as her right. But now that super hot, there's an. His where I was like. So my point is, is that like that's the game that Papa plays. Does that cause troubling guys relationship that people are always questioning the nature of your guises love for each other. No I think that if if it were to ever. Cause trouble it's mostly just me probably feeling bad about it in the beginning that maybe like. To figure out how to yeah how to naught absorb that kind of abuse from the Internet and stuff. But if we figured it out and we don't talk about it. So you know why the question is why did I get into stand up? What drove me right and at a when I was twenty three years old, I couldn't date any women because I was so shy I looked away I did ride I didn't really have great social skills I had no confidence, right so I started doing standup and that what that did it didn't change my physical parents right but it changed the way I. Felt about myself and that's I. Think what? Got Me to be with women, but the whole reason why I'm doing. I think at the end of the day. You know I do entertainment because so that I can feel more confident and so that I could attract people around me to live a bigger life. So that has everything do with it. Now if I if I looked away I did I didn't have the confidence that I did and I didn't have a great job and I was had low self-esteem that I understand in that situation right? Yeah. And and you know it's kind of We have a very similar. We had a very similar upbringing like a lot of when when bobby and I first met it was like reuniting with an old friend that feeling of like we. Understand me completely and I don't know why or how but it oh, it felt immediately like there was something there and we had so much to talk about and I just the I was immediately attracted to. All of it in same in the same way, you know the whatever he felt for me was way beyond. You know just like the physical nature. And also like to be fair I've always liked rotund guys. Sorry. Well I've always liked you know pear shape I've. that. Wait what was the first? Word A ton. Okay I never heard that. Selects Rotan Man I duNNo. Rotunda. Either when you're wh, you're making love to Ethan. Do you feel like what the fuck am I doing with this guy? Fieri every. Day. I. Like what you said because I, feel like people just like they narrow down the whole thing so much to like just looks that it's so stupid like you're not just attracted to how a person looks I don't know. Why are you I know. Especially, like what you do with your life is attractive. You know how you carry yourself if you're a creative and he's like, I'm find that attractive. You know it's it's a lot of things and if I'm just going to date a beautiful guy, he can be adopted a shallow person I'm not going to be attracted to him. it's. It's not just that like your beautiful or not, and therefore, you should date a beautiful person or not. I think a lot of guys miss that that I of all really great. A lot of really great women out there the looks and all that stuff is not the number one thing they're looking for in. A fifty pounds of fat on the table as I'm talking. To Me Too. So yeah I think a lot of guys have confidence issues because they're like I'm not perfect a perfect and beautiful face and body, but I mean. You know that's been slow you down. And then I'm attracted to what attracted to I'm sorry, you know I mean I know if did God make me to go out with a four-foot to Vietnamese girl imprinting printing made. Right. But but I just you know I found her to be beautiful right and then when we when I found out about her point of view about life in her heart and how is and how she treats people that added that was like. If I was. Tell me about virgin. Blake. We're getting away from the top and I, didn't forget I literally thought that we were away. You're a good one. WHO's the Is Lake or case I had to ask therapists this before because I was like look like does does the kink that we're into at all represent who we are as people and she was like absolutely non you could be you could have like murderous fantasies in bet and that has nothing to do with who you are outside of sex. So I was like, okay cool. Because Virgin Blake he's of age by the way he just happens to be a virgin when bobby becomes of Rijn. Blake it basically takes a it takes me three seconds to come I'll. If Virgin Blake is inside me it's over it's awesome. I'll system like I can't believe I'm doing this right now. and. Like I, thank you so much for doing this with me. Feel. So good. Blake wait I don't find that to be that bizarre more than anything else you guys told me today. So you just. You you have a fantasy about fucking. Really, square boy like Gary inexperienced sheltered. Yeah. I mean. Look seven year old who just has never like maybe an in-cell even But also fucked like virgin. Yeah. So you're perfect. I'm not doing I'm not doing my European bobby least is. I'm going like we're weird like rhythmic movements like. Shaking. Even cry. I mean, I'll do the whole thing. Isn't it interesting that the Virgin Blake is kind of a Chad because he can make a girl common three seconds. Yeah, Yeah Yeah Yeah, yeah, and It feels good to be virtually tecom. Yeah. I'll do whatever. Lobby takes. About an hour or two but. Just wrap it up. Already came after four pumps exhausting I'm like let's get this fucking. Because how long have you guys been together again Like We got married in twenty twelve. So eight almost eight years. Almost eight years as we've been having sex for much longer than that. More like thirteen years. Wow Way long may not do you guys do role playing and stuff like that. When you when you make love do you. Just able to do it? No, we don't role play. We've never done. I. Yeah. They've they love each other for each other. About that. Thought about that. You guys do frequently or I know it's a personal question but. What happened was the role playing eventually backfired because we did it for so long and we kept upping the ante your characters. So Extreme That would. Really. Be like inside as Bobby. Colella. So we kind of hit a slump for a while there, and then got to the point where I was like Jeffrey Dahmer. That's all fucked up a how. I don't know how to to role playing me. I get I feel like I wouldn't be able to convince myself of all these crazy. Like I feel like I'm I would be very self aware like hey. I'm Virgin Blake here to fuck you or I don't know. How do you guys get so in-depth? Miser technique and some other acting tech. Yeah you are new an act tour. I don't know I just can get myself that we both can get ourselves. There maybe should try does your. Does your sessions lasts for a long time. No. No. We go through like three characters in the span of like six minutes. Well. Yeah. I'll. Do. Accents. Governor. That is worth. Well she'll. She'll go. Don't do that character. It's not. Wow you that's I mean that's sign. That's wild. Well, you we're trying to have another baby. So yes, we're having a lot of sex right now. What. So what now 'cause? I WanNa baby now we talked about it the last time we were on there But still we're still doing that but how how has it been now with the baby. And to good. Game he talked now can you talk now is starting to talk. He's he's saying a lot of words he's not talking, but he's saying a lot of words but he understands a lot. He really understands. He he'd like. I'll say can you go show that to that and then you actually go Like I'll say spit it out. This is what I say now spit it out because he just picks it up off the ground but today's dog food he loves eating dog food. Spit up and he. Goes. Has. Your sleep in affected by it. No, we're rich. We have helped. I mean, just being honest with the bad. It's just to be honest. Okay. Hard for sure even with help. Yes but I just need to be honest. Like. Everybody who has like some measure of success and money they talk about having kids they all have nightnurses. Yeah. They have people we don't have a night. Yeah. It's we have a nanny that comes in the. Early, sleep train. So he sleeps through the night. So we're pretty lucky in that way. He sleeps really good. He almost never wakes up in the middle the yeah. We don't have somebody here during that time, but but he he sleeps through the night he's a diesel champion. We both work. So during the day, we have to help the first the first six months it was the was the toughest. It's really crazy the first six months. But after that, if they are sleep trained if you get like a really good how do you call it? A nurse on what do you call the baby? Dula. Dula to come and help you with the Nitra the night training stuff them. Then, it's denic. It's it's not bad. You know what it really was just. The ultimate thing about it is just having a schedule. I never thought we could do it because we don't have a schedule ourselves like we're all over the place all the time. With him you we just have to have a schedule so we're doing it, and like you immediately see how good it is when you do it. So that's why we're keeping it. You have to do everything at like in the evening at the same way dinner at five thirty. Let's say and then bat and then this and that, and he just follows it and he knows, okay, we're going to sleep now. So Oh so I can't sleep at like five in the morning like normally do. Well you I mean we're to work but I I have the same problem. Yeah. 'cause I can't fall asleep before like three as really late. But the thing is that we have a nurse comes really early in the morning on the weekends though we don't have a nurse I preferred that way because I want to be forced to spend the time with them and so I do feel like shit all the time and my sleep cycle is super fucked up but but obviously, no, you don't want I mean you don't WanNa sleep till. You don't WanNa sleep five and you have a kid. I mean you look like a fucking psycho your kid's GonNa think that's behavior and that's the problem that I have because I'm really trying hard to adjust my sleep schedule now because I don't want theater or. To agree a roll up with the expectation. Exactly. But I think I'm depressed I have all kinds of issues that I'm trying to work through right now. See. That's what I think is going to do but but I'm afraid it's not GonNa what I think it's going to do but I think it's going to do. It's going to curb some of my the habits that I have you know like number one. I, think that it's going to make me completely quit smoking. Number two, it's GonNa. Make me not play video game does much number three. It's going to motivate me to like do more in my career. More proactive well I think it's GonNa. Go sorry to cut you off. I. Thought we were done. I done. I am fucking done. It's hard on the zoom calls. Yeah I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would have I wouldn't expect the kid to change bad habits. You know what I mean you kind of have to like. Being a good place than half the. Me Too it I feel like the kid could even exist as asser bad habits because it's so stressful hard. Naming and and you have to be at your best to handle it because it is so hard. But at the same time, I see your point it may help in some areas you do have to follow his schedule you do have to be consistent, therefore him and. Is going to be the most important thing for you. So you're going to have to do that. You know. I. I know this about myself. I know once I see the baby. There's just no way for me not to be affected by it. I know that I'm GonNa have a cosmic experience from it yet I know for sure right. So I just know I'm GonNa look at this baby and because I The reason why I can stay sober for big chunks of time. Is because of the fact that like at the end of the day, it's based on I want to be present for my mom, my brother and Colli right. So I just know that extreme things like that do change me. Right so I beg to differ but they. Differ. Like if you're if you want. Your about to go into a situation like they said is like super different and on top of that super stressful and all those escape his habits have to get out of difficult situations aren't going to disappear when a difficult situation presents itself. You might even there's a possibility like, Eli. said that it could be exacerbated. If the baby's crying I'm not gonNA want to go play worth over. That it's not that. I know do that. Thank. You I'm not GonNa do that either because I'm GonNa look at the baby goes I want I want I want to be alive for the baby I want I want to experience I wanna be I would make. A great person of Era Parent I think you should have kids. I'm not saying look I know we said last time to you guys. Thank you. Guys would be great parents. Don't want to give the wrong impression I. Think you guys are in a great spot. I think you guys are in a loving relationship. You are in great financial situation a lot of you stop nine months to work on yourself. Yeah, the clock starts. o'clock desk. No I think you'd be a great dad bobby and. And even if you're not a perfect at that kid is still going to be happy in a good home. And, you're not going to be a perfect dad nobody is a perfect parent. There's no such thing. But. I'm not going to do what my dad did. My Dad's we. Yeah. Again. Beat my mom right I want to correct some of that things. All right. Thank you you're. GonNa. move out but I don't like the accusations. No I didn't. I. Didn't come down on you itself. Yeah, you'd be a great debt. Thank you. That's all I wanted to here. Yeah. What did you say I'm going to be a great day. Let's move on but just so you know we're still trying to work on eight instill stays up too late. We're still we're working on it though it might take time. It's like a big adjustment we've never. Doing good. Yeah. Happy. Very, happy yeah. What do you guys fight about? Again this pandemic. Guys fight. About. Sometimes A. Well, we used to fight about food a lot but not so much. We don't fight that much honestly to be honest ill got mad either gets mad at me. Sometimes when I tweet stuff, that's that's the one thing that I can think of. Sometimes. I'll make tweet she doesn't like then she'll get mad at me. Political tweet or something. Yeah. Damon care with the political ones. Actually it's more drama ones. Yeah. She doesn't. She gets mad when I tweet stuff. Do you respond to because. Every. Once in a while like I'll breakdown and I'll respond to a negative comment or or or a direct message or something like somebody will say something like. You know, hey, dude, stop doing podcasting. You're bad at it. Right and know sometimes I'll can look at something like that and let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go right. But every once in a while go oh, is that why so many people listen to me like I'll go crazy right? You respond to stuff like that well, I just know those comments do make me sad and so I just don't read comments for the most part. that that I should do that but generally, no, I wouldn't respond to it because I just feel I just feel bad and then move on. Yeah. I used to just know that. It is not going to accomplish anything in that person just GonNa get attention that they want and there's no, you can't you can't. You can't never convince these people that you're good enough. You know what I mean. Eh. No matter what you say forever, right Yeah but Mike my question though is why? Okay, there are there are people and music musical bands and things that I don't like where there are actors that I just find not that kind of annoy me right But and they seem to all work and all that stuff and I'm not gonNA name who those people are GonNa hurt their feelings but in no, why would I go out of my way to say Amen let you know you suck like I would never do that. No I would not yet. Why do people do that? Really not sure I think because they're. Honestly. I would never do that. I don't think I know anyone who would do that. The only way that I can imagine is that they're very hurt they're very bitter and jealous and mad that their life sucks. I mean that's really the only explanation. But it doesn't make it hurt any less no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But is true. I mean nobody else would believe that comment unless they were just bitterly unhappy with their life. Yeah. Yeah. It's not personal as what you're saying it's never it's not personal and they they're only saying it because they're like my life fucking sucks. And Year life rule. So you would they think that you would never be offended or care about what they say. Yeah because they see you as some invincible personal you know what? I mean yeah. You know it's funny because. This is the honest truth and it's not really that humorous but. I've been kind of thinking to myself how do I feel the same about myself and the same way about life that that I that I felt Thirty years ago and I feel the same way. For you know it's like you know I've had the last five years. I've had some success and this has been incredible pan-demic from me. I'm I'm getting a lot of work for some reason, the fan. So wrong. It sounds bad. But like I, th I I assume the worst I thought like over the next whenever until they have vaccine, I'm not gonNa work or nothing's going to be happening but you know I'm still getting calls like you know I sold a show you know graduation on A.. B. C. so I'm very. Excited about that, and there's a lot of other good things happening in my life. But at the end of the day, it's like I still feel like piece of shit that I did thirty years ago right so I just don't think that it's weird like I don't feel different or you know about myself or you know what? You say thirty years ago. How how do you man like? Like does success happiness dot kind of. No because I feel like you know people go people tweet at me or they say negative things like look at this guy this guy I shouldn't be killing it. You know I mean or why can't I be but I just want to tell these people that listen I still feel like a piece of shit. Yeah we all know that's the thing. Yeah. I don't feel different than you. I'm not a God. You cannot harm me mortals. My feelings yeah. Yeah. I. I'm as sensitive an. Impressive depressing days. I'm self conscious. There's all these things that never really went away I'm the same. Right. But then people like attack Amas if I'm supposed to be here on one of the I've always been here. You know it's just an odd psychological thing that Yeah I. Think I think I've. I've been through that that cycle to honestly the only solution I've ever found that had any success for me is just. You have to really just not engage or read. In the comments because you know what it is it's like people. Talking about you and you eavesdropping on a conversation about you it's like a conversation. You're not meant to be a part of or to know what people are saying and the world but say you go to high school and there's five thousand people at your high school. You're not supposed to know what every single person in that high school says about every conversation, right? You go crazy and also what they would say behind your back, they wanna say to your face and they may not even mean, let's be honest. Be Really mean. When you're talking to someone else but you don't mean your doctor that person you would never say that to their you ever done that where you talk shit about someone and then afterwards you like I don't mean that at all. I. Like that person. you know what I mean. Time. Frame Goodwood free. So you. Said things like. To somebody just to. Somebody says I liked this movie and I'll go that movie sucks. But I've seen the movie fifty times. You're to see the per the director of that movie. You'd probably be like Dude Big Fan. Oh Yeah Alright love that. I've also said good things about people don't even mean it. No, that's not good. Even. A big Fan I go I hate that guy. Okay but this old like a point is right the point is I have I got a name the person did that but I remember being on the paramount lot. I saw Oh my God hears this Jack. ACID? fucking hate this guy right and I went I'm a big Fan. I do tears in mind. Any nobody said he goes he goes. Thanks and just Kinda like. Oh. I hit even more. So, but the point is that these are not these aren't really real reflections of people's hearts and souls, and so the only you can't really live your life sanely and reading all this shit about yourself you just have put out your thing. I do find that when I don't look at anything I am happier and. Because just don locate anything and I'm walking on in my daily and I'm happier yeah, you don't can't. Stop and look at this and makes me feel bad every time because look all you can do is you put, you do your thing you have the people in your immediate life in that room with you. Now you'd let's say do episode Puckett Dow's good that I felt good. That was a fun episode so you put it out and you leave with that feeling. Or you say, you say that podcast we could have improved on these things, but it's you know it's not that serious you just like mental note we can prevent that you walk you live your life. You know if you go to the comments, it'll ruin your fucking day and by the way it will pollute the actual productive thoughts you had about it in either case. A. Day and have a good day. They're like, not fuck you your day. Even have a podcast. Yeah. Yeah. Thoughts you're gonNA. End. Up with. Let's say you have a bad podcast, and then of course, everybody's just talking about this one awkward moment they're going to amplify making a million times worse. You know already in your mind that Oh, I see that's something I could work on an improved, but they're going to ruin your whole fucking year. So you like how much better off would you be not even knowing that conversations happening you're right you're right. You're right. You're right. That's GonNa stop doing that. Fish for it and it's not of course. Now. Let me ask you what do you guys do because I want to comment on political things i. don't I don't I do. Tell people what I am politically right now I don't WanNa get into it. But like. When I'm on I'm literally will read something and I'll go out of my mind. FUCKING BELIEVE IT We used to be like that. We used to try to stay out of politics than I just grew tired of that. It felt like. January, we're not fully expressing our sauce and I. I enjoy listening to people. I like talk about politics. And then I figured why wouldn't we just talk about what we are thinking right now you know so. First of all, it's not for everyone and I'll warn you if you do. There's so many people online especially, that will fucking hate your guts for. This guy's also as other hate but it it is really coming from political place sometimes. Once I got I'm not even really political but let's say once I started being more outspoken with by political thoughts there was like a huge fucking concerted effort from like right lane right influencing things and it comes in all kinds of weird first of all you get people who are just mad Unicom as and but but yeah, you're GONNA get shit for it but I am my case I. I feel like my whole shtick has always been calling out bullshit where I see it and so what am I for me? It felt hypocritical to just look away and not be true to myself in that regard. So yeah, it's risky and it's GonNa can cause you a Lotta Shit and it's true what people say it's everywhere people say that it's everywhere. Why do I need to sit here and whatever I think that the reason we I least hesitate there I. Tell You. Let's not speak on something is because we're not as versus you guys we don't find. Bright enough I'm. Not. Defend my position yeah. I'm not either yeah. No I know exactly what you mean and so there are certain times when I get into it and I'm like I'm honestly I I don't know what I'm talking about. But here's a is it possible that nobody knows what they're talking about? That's Just better at sounding because who can even figure out what the fuck is going on in this world I mean, what is really happening you know From my personal perspective as a listen out to either people. Wonders a person I like and then they talk about politics I like listening to them talk about it because I like this person and I and they usually say it the way I'm thinking you know the. Thinking and I'm so frustrated about something and they'll say it and it's fun to listen to but. There are certain things you could talk about that. Don't require you having an intimate knowledge of policy for example, Eric what's his name Eric? Is. That is that his unloved son Yes airtran Airways trump the biggest. So he tweeted out this morning and I quote tweeted he says. Here pulled up, pull up in you guys got to see. This is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen and I'm like, okay and I'm just like, why are we putting the sky up on a on a pedestal? He's a fuck. He is literally a fucking brain dead imbecile. I mean, like people are really putting this guy on a pedestal A. Guardian. So he goes Google is once again trying to manipulate Americans type mob or mobs into Google and watch what comes up do the same on any other search engine and what showed up is this anime mob cycle one, hundred, the characters name as mob, and he thinks this is some incredible conspiracy theory to keep people from seeing what a mob is on Google images. Because he doesn't know what what this anime is. I mean. I mean this is a great one by the way. So like I'm not I don't need to make some great political statement and just to know that he's a fucking moron. Right. So I wish I wish you didn't show me that. Yeah at. So called tweeted instead of being this dumb. Luck. Yeah I think that you know I I think I'm going to start doing it a little bit more. I. Have Moments of being fired up but I don't try to. I. Try to sort of argue amongst like my own circle of people that I know because I feel like that's that's if I'm going to have any impact, it's probably going to be in that small little microdots. MOM is true. Then a work my way out because like especially in the. Filipino community, we have a lot of We have a lot of issues with race with the colonial mentality with a lot of self loathing that reflects on who we choose as our leader. So I try to get into those smaller discussions and it's yet even in those small discussions. It's really gets really ugly fast it's like when it's like when the fuck fuck face leader of the free world riot says Kung flu. Or the China. Virus. which is saying a lot now. And people don't realize that it affects people that look like me living in this country I don't understand why they see the connection that you know the mob right or a group of people are going to view me as if I'm some sort of some implication that I had something to do with the virus and I'm GonNa you know and now you. Have the virus like. and. Asians are now getting you know hit in the face on the middle of the street and and and he'd people don't realize that connection. But in I'm so afraid to even talk about it right because I don't WanNa get attacked by these people right? It's a weird fucking thing. So you know what I want to start saying things right because that that is hurtful when he says like that. Like what Ethan says just say it and then about Fishing. Rod Thoughts on it. Because the let it live and feel good that you said it think about it before you put it out make sure it's what you want to say. And then just let it live and be happy. Let me let me spell check it because you you WanNa make sure it's all spelled I, really hit. It's I've been with him for seven years. Could. Could spell out there you. Literally, everyone was like, what usually self aware that I guess I, guess. I. Mean I've known worse. No more spellers. Take hold posts down to them. Dan I screamed at me like Damn family. I got. I'm just a just the other day you a pretty bad one tweet and so. Wait what did I misspell in a tweet? Jeez well because. First of all. Everybody in the group chat spell check to and nobody corrected me. I. I literally showed the tweet to everybody in our what's up on the PODCASTS and nobody directed it I'm the bad speller. He was busy. Anyway. But Bobby I think you you tap into a good point. It's like I, it's like they. This is what they want. Right they. They ruled by this this this fear and and they make like you can't speak up for your own wellbeing I mean, yeah. We have a president that's perpetuating racial stereotype harp very hurtful harmful racial stereotypes against you. Yeah. So why the functioning you speak up? Yeah, and we're. And, I should because I'm I have a voice and I should for the the millions of fucking Asians out there that need a voice you know and I'm being a coward because you know I don't WanNa fucking get involved but I have these deep feelings about it. Of. Rage you know and I just don't get why people don't understand that what he's saying is visible and it's causing because they liked that dude because those these are the times we're living in. It's sad and it's it's upsetting because the people who like and Donald Trump like that. It's defensive and harmful because they don't look like you and they think it's great that it's triggering. Because I you know I saw him at a rally and he goes you know the Wuhan Flu. Kung Fu Kung flu and he's like the cone flu and everyone's like, yeah, I mean. Yeah, and it's a and you when you watch you go. What's amazing is He has shown us. The amount of people that back that kind of ideology. Isn't that shocking. When you see polls you go. So, just I, opening right that's you're talking about forty five percent. Yeah Right, and that's if you look at that that means that when you're in the Mid West, you have to kind of look around half these people and you know that we've were forever changed just in the last four years to and Proof of that is four years ago. The most profound and earth-shattering thing we watched was going clear the documentary about scientology. And then two days ago we saw we ought to be watched because we wanted our needs to watch it and he was the most boring thing we. Nothing boring. Yeah we have been like you know we're so jaded now. But. You know what? But beyond like the Beyond fighting the hate and propaganda and racism. I just think that they're really ripe for satire because it's a bunch of fucking white trash bozos and. Then Wall. You're right. You're right but WHOA I think it's not. It's so ripe for commentary these people and there's so much comedy to make out of the stupidity that Donald Donald. Trump. Is. Such an oath and his family such fucking Bimbos family of bimbos. And everyone surrounding him and all these pundits and everybody I mean there's just there. There are a bunch of fucking hateful warrants. Tucker Carlson looks like. He's perpetually lost and confused. Love is Bo. Tiso. there. He's cute. Cute but I'm just saying you gonNA eat some oatmeal. Speaking. But you know what it raises more Okay. So I saw on the Internet right some you know A. Older White Conservative guy, he was a Chad Riot. And he's berating some, you know black people about something right and next to him was an old his wife who is an old? Asian Lady. She's like, yeah, you're right. You know she's like defending her husband writer. Those those Asians right that you hang out with A. Drive. Me fucking crazy. Keeps them up at night. You know what? Mitch mcco McConnell's wife what's her name I forgot remembered like Whoa what trump had a press conference and here's this concubine. Concubine Concubine. Bind their feet they walk on their back and they all. They do that. All the whole thing fucking drives me crazy think she's like a race traitor. Yet there's a betrayal there. You know. I I feel the I just you know there's a lot of that too in the Filipino community. Yeah, and so it really that's that's the one thing that I see it's like but it's also comes from a colonial mentality thinking that you have a seat at their table because you've been It it warps the way. You you. You view yourself and then you started praise your abuser. So that's it's very for Filipinos, it's a lot. It's very much because we've been Colonized by our whole history of our country, right? Yeah. It's like when you go to Thailand I've been Thailand right and I shot a movie there. Once it was out there for months and I would walk down the street and I would see a seventy year old. American. White Man. Holding hands with like an eighteen year. Old Right Asian girl right and they're just walking down the street confident with their with you know with basically you know it's like it's pedophilia. That's what it is. Right and you see that I don't know what is about that but it drives me fucking crazy and for some reason I equate. You know a certain section of trump's supporters like that. You know I don't know if there's a connection there for me. Right of like users or you know. I. I there I will say though. Not to over generalize because first of all I know what you mean. But I do think that like Thurs of March section of trump's supporters that are racist just shitty divisive trolls whatever. But a lot of the people are just like think. They they just think he's an honest politician that he's different and he says it like it is and he doesn't mean all that stuff he says or maybe they don't even pay attention and they don't understand why. They are good people but they don't they don't understand and it's hard to understand because let's say that they're watching. Fox News and according to Fox News everything's fucking great. You know I, try to soften my feelings for like old white politicians by trying to imagine them in their little sleepy hat before they go to bed at night. I think about their old. Old Man Smell. Like as my dad was an old guy, I just imagined like, oh, they probably have that old man smell and they probably have the liver spots like all over and they probably were the little sleepy hat before trump even biden. So and then go k. like maybe they're not as evil. They're not I. Don't think. I think there's very people in this world that are actually evil. But. But what can you do because? I think there are some evil people that like. Like I don't know it's kind of evil to run a a add on facebook. It says like Hillary, Clinton rapes, kids or something knowing that that's not true. I don't know you ever Google the top ten most evil people that ever lived on the planet. No because with that. I don't know anchor next that less interesting made by. God made this link. Fit in started. Yeah. Hey in, can you pull up top ten most evil people I think I mean you go before you do that before the let's get guests Hitler number welcome. All right so I didn't know that. Stalin should be is the editor Pol, Pot Pol Pot for sure. Okay, here's an interesting one law paler. Right. I have a feeling. He's already looked at this because I have a vague memory of him recycle. No He's not I maybe maybe. Brutal. Kenya's CON-. Done. Yeah. Everybody's a descendant everybody. Con is like people who like sonic? Youth. The colts. Coffee. You know. But they're more colty like the masses the white. Shirt right now dan you saw. Yeah I love that ban daydream nation is a great album but my point is, is that I think What's that guy's name? His name is Hitler. Thank. Adolf Hitler's on it. The Pol Pot, we said he's Asian lobby. impaler is a little bit more obscure, and that's how I know. You probably look at this list. Thinking who else we got I think some of the imperialists who came to America all the NATO's like who's the Spanish shoot who like gave all the natives smallpox killed like A. Half billion to America what was his name? was, it wasn't through a gave them smallpox. WAS IT WHO's a Spanish dude? I mean who went to Max like a Cortes Court Cortes that gave everyone smallpox. SOMMA bin Laden. We should be on the list Magellan. Magellan. Pulled up. GonNa tell in. We. Go. A cover you guys want to do a top ten voice cover nen and he. Fifteen most evil people to have ever been bar. Okay. I'm in at number one adolf, Hitler inundating. Pillar killed nine, million people six, million Jews he did not choose people are number one. Coming in at number two. Joseph Stalin dollars. He killed a hell of of his own people 'cause Oh Vlad. The impaler number three bro. One Bobby Point for Bobby. Why did you even think to say that I kind of agree that you must have cheated on the staff? Who Even knows who Vlad the impaler is? Being. Pol Pot there we go. Himmler. Oh, another non say that the Nazis are topping the list. Sedan. Yeah. I mean, who is that? mean he's I. Think he's black. Can you. Diversity are you gotTa have put a Black Guy in their? Diversity. Here we're getting some photos we go. Okay White Dude Saddam Eastern yeah you Mexican. Right there. Oh Yeah. Let's see. Let's read about him. Yeah. He was in Uganda he promised to bring prosperity but a week later he did come self president as dictator became known as the butcher of Uganda killed people by feeding them to crocodiles. Also, a Cannibal Diomede and mutilated one of his wives and re arranged her limbs. He cared and tortured around half a million people. So congratulations to. For making it to number seven an. Better. Try. BETTER NEXT TIME On god-given terrible Ivan. The terrible he looks to you does he looked at me you WANNA. That's cool. That's a cool look. Keep going in the people don't give. Kenya see I don't even know these people are too low on the list Kim Kim Kim Sung second I mean who we talked to put all of them in the same list Kim. Jong Kim Jong Il and. All that sucks because they're probably like two of them are having gone we tied. Upset, you know what I mean we don't get our own category or. Yeah that's true. That's kind of a disc Niro man this. Okay. Genghis Khan made it. Very. That's me E. Show. Little just like me. Here, you probably are related I mean he raped. By? His. Nature led to many victories such as many parts of China but also the killing of countless people is believed that his men if out of water would drink blood from their horses killed fifteen million people. a total of twenty to sixty million people died during his reign. God bless him number thirteen. Now lot of Asians lots of Asians on the list. That's interesting. Yeah. It's interesting WHO'S CITY WHO Wait what who's this freak he looks like the Evil Maximilian. Look good that we saw this is the reign of terror guy. He only one hundred, thousand loser loser coming in at the bottom of the list at number fifteen. Million Sphere with a hundred thousand rape of murder. Robespierre Robespierre Robespierre. Thank you Zach. Wow No women, women, women, women. Interesting I feel like they if they had the agency back, then they would there be some on the list you. Know Gays. How will you? How would you know that bobby? Yeah. Okay. Well, I do Genghis Khan for sure he dude over. Might fucked everybody. Drink dudes asked me I was reading this article. How. Historically in China homosexuality it was actually so okay and. A long time ago in China and it was not so yeah it would make sense that GASCON. OR I. Definitely. I feel gang conflict at least one dude. Yeah just to try. Dracula is is based on Vlade. impaler foot the impaler he has to have. So he has the. Mark Yeah. so He seems game here. Who is gay? Wait you. Can you guys hear that? What is that? It's a soundbite. There's this guy. It's really funny video of. Some African Guy. WHO's really he's really sweet and genuine just doesn't understand the concept of homosexuality or or trans. So there's this trans person who comes on and he goes why are you gay? And then she goes well, I'm I'm not gay and he goes. So who is gay? Africa. Africa. Is You know what? I've never googled the nicest people at that's ever lived and we can do this is. Feel I mean all I can think of. This. Yeah who else is? Mr Rogers losses. elmo. Theresa. Gandhi. Mother wasn't mother Theresa. Secretly a dish or was that someone. I think that Gandhi was secretly. The A peto. Letting people die and shit and like. It's came out that she was like a horrible person she would have been canceled by now I. Thank you. Oh, Ghani was fucking kids. I. Don't think so i. think that what I read was he would test his willpower by laying next to his fourteen year old nieces he didn't fuck him I'm not sure the extent. Failed guys. One time I used to think that Deepak Chopra was like a God. I did I did and then one time one time my buddy goes go deepak show up on his family eight at my restaurant. And he goes the only left five percent tip. As, soon as I heard that shattered. Shattered while I burned all his book seven spiritual side burned. I'm made duty. If you're Deepak, you've got what are you doing walking? Bucket put down twenty percent. leased. Let's say someone word to pay for dinner. Do you look at how much they're tipping just? So the the. They whoever doesn't think that you you guys are cheap. Well first of all, I, usually just go out with my family and I always pay. Now we've been in situations to where we were with friends and We we would look at the tip sometimes they leave a really bad tip on liked you can't. Wait staff will think that. I have famous friends who are they go to ten percents where Max out they like make a whole Blah now. And actually you what we've been banned from restaurants because of it I swear to God we we stopped going to a specific restaurant because my one friend tip. So badly that we got, we got beef with one of the waiters. No really swear to God. And it was our favorite restaurant to and we're like we can't go there anymore I used to eat with a rich when I was poor. I kinda WanNa see her because you died a fuck I'll say, well, she's dead have to it's not important to this story. What's her name? Going to say, but she was a powerful rich old lady right as everyone that twice now everyone's only twice she took me to dinner right as she loves she leaves no tip. She's American she's not here Paean American yes. That's the first time I ate with her. So the second time eight with her, I, knew that she was going to give to. So I had money. That put into a little ball. The crunched up in a ball right and so when we got up from the table, I just threw it on the table. You didn't want her to see. They knew that she was. You didn't see it now. Because you're so fucking cheap I don't WanNa get into that conversation, right? So I just wanted to just put it. Give it give it to the waiter I hate it i. I fucking. I used to wait tables to me. We all the. It's the worst feeling when you work your fucking ass off and they leave you know fucking tip or or they leave little. Yeah. It's I used. Like loosely or that? Because they don't realize what you know. You have you come to work and they go. Hey, sally didn't show up. You have to take on her capable stupid fucking ten tables you're running around you have ketchup mustard. Have, like the four intervene somebody had a dirty yet to memorize all these issues and you're just constantly running, running, running, running, running, running, right and then you end of the shift you have no money I got to tell you. One of the hardest most exhausting. Yeah. You're moving so fast. And then like mistakes happen obviously because you're moving so fast and furious, and then it's just horrible. People are so crazy when I my whole memory of it is just like the worst people like it just brings the worst people. Yeah. The customers hate you the kitchen hates you the bar hates you everyone hates you I just it's all negative for me. I don't know why people go this system is fucked up not leaving I think only rich people say that and then they go. But it's like dude, this waiter is not getting rich off your fucking tip. Five. Dollars. They need it. Yeah. We tip double when when disservices horrible because we assume that they're having a bad day. No. That's not why do we? Talk splash the soup into our face. A frisbee on. Letter Yeah. Yeah. So that's how I do I do double tip. He did when I get really shitty service. And I like the food. I liked the restaurant I leave double. So the next time I go in there, and if I happen to have the same waiter, he knows write them a good tipper that he treats me different. Maybe he thought his behavior, his initial behavior was what got him the double tips? He's GonNa keep pouring souvenirs. You're into that. It's your. It's your kink. This guy have to be mean to him lake over here. You know what my brother My brother and I like to do is we want to a Wendy's once. And What you dined in no way to know because we wanted to get cone. Of Ice Cream visit. Embarrassing. Right. Thing I've done my brother. My brother and I went and and the lady was so rude when we ask because she guess the machine was like not on or whatever. So she gave an attitude lock. Right, and so I didn't like her attitude. So when she gave me the thing I threw in the trash in order that again. Well. How did she respond? He was even more furious. But my brother and I were laughing so hard. By brother thought that I was going to. Repay for it, right? Yeah. It's all good. Eight that service. It drives me crazy. Oh my God what's the biggest fuck up you had as a waiter No Mike. So many. I got a lot of complaints because my thumb was in the food. The best. Because I have little hands. Little hands. So at some of the plates of big, right? Yeah. So I can't. So I had to do it by the edges and my mom would be in the food. What that means. So many people saw your thumb in the food and then didn't say anything we're just like I gotta eat it but. It's also like it was a breakfast place. So my thumb would be in an almond. Do Right. So you would puncture the Linda, cheese would be on my dripping. Right so It right. Spice about things like that like if that were to happen to us if there was a hair in her food. Shit we're spineless. We'd don't say a word. We just nod and say it's delicious. The food pretend to eat it and then just go out. I think most people do that's what I'm saying how many people but I'll be like I'll be like with. This fucking. Awful. A hated this the worst field. How's your food? Great. Yeah. Thank you. Say there was a place called Oscars. I ordered a breadsticks and I swear to fucking in the middle of the breadstick. There was a fucking nail. fingernail. fucking. Right and so I ate though breadstick and I just looked the nail. But I didn't complain I. Yeah there's a nail in my Brazil. Better. I think Americans are more polite. Fuck which I learned from you. and. I like that. I think that's great. But I think in Israel people are very confrontational data try to return a meal in Israel. That'd be the pop. Star I got I was ordering food during my lunch break. In Israel, this is the Kinda Shit you can expect to see women's on the phone. I'm getting A to go box. It's like a box has got different containers. and. Then she picks up the to go box and she puts her fucking cellphone in the to go box arrest. She goes. Can I help you and her phone that she was just on is in the box she's about the. Would you do I was a bitch and I foot and I ate it. because. Embarrassed like. The phone was in the food. Before the food was scooped. The foot puts the phone. I couldn't believe. And I I still took it because I was in Israel Israel is a little behind on like hygienist in general being like. Oh Yeah. Another example Dude's making swarm I whatever he's got gloves on right Then, you paying with dollar bills and he's tanning the money with the gloves. And Kevin Touching your field it's what do you. Protect his aunts not me? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So weird I just say anything. Of course. I would let it. I don't I am very I zone in on those behaviors in America but if it were to happen in a different country for some reason like I allow it. Only research. It's kind of common. It'll be everywhere at once you start pointing it out. They will be your day like you just pointed out everywhere. Once when I ordered like. Sabih it's like A. Kind of in pizza and they the guy wasn't wearing gloves and I was like that was like after I've been kind of Americanized eighth and I was like, can you wear gloves? Goggles. You're crazy, right Mitch what the? Crazy yeah. Yeah And then he wanted to. But. Then he handled money with the gloves. Exactly. Dude. Let me tell you. Israel. Is a shock to me when I first went there you go to the grocery store. Okay. The floor is fucking coded in dirt. Yeah. Shiny like here like dirt. Done. Like the bread rolls and chip people just barehanded throw it back in. Yeah. Yeah all. Yeah pickles huge buckets. Just. Ask whole different, world dude, yeah I think that there is one stark difference between like. At least Asian countries or foreign Americans are not good post poop wipers also the I've se- I've never seen so many women. Wipe back to front like I have in America. Front. Oh women will really I never known a back to front west. They, they take the toilet paper and It goes. To the Vagina Vagina. And then goes into the Vagina Warren your way. That's what I'm saying I never saw it until I came to America and I was in shock because I was like wait who taught you that? Who Do you, how many people do you know that does then how how did you know that about what girls that I went to nursing school with were nurses now who didn't? Wipe back to front. So with girls all congregate in the bathroom. When we go out, we go drinking or over to your house we p together and you see those things and you're like. Wow Remember I love that girl once and she had been around I don't remember. Tell me. The story way what? Why what happened tell me if I was doing was in La Hoya and I was doing her doggy style. Yeah. This is the girl who was exciting. You love. I? Really. Sweet Smell Pu. 'cause you know the smell who? Yes. When you're doing your, it's not sex smell it's Doing. And you look around when you always look around you go bird. I kept going. No. That's definitely pool. Right So I I took my thumbs right and I spread. Weeks. And I looked and it was it was a long hair. Sticking out but at the tip of the but hair, there was a dingell berry. Old News Yeah. It wasn't a fresh bill. Yeah. Yeah, and so I try to. You know what I mean you. Know, I try to flick it. Showed I tried to flick it because that's you know. I still came. Would you have I still came I still came. Oh, I feel like I would have maybe wrapped it up. She track. Girls. I was on twitter yesterday and I saw that Odell Beckham was trending and I eat a who'll they'll girl style by that story I'm taking you to recover. Football player. So I'd receiver and. He played for the Cleveland Browns. So basically, one of his ex lover's came out and said that he likes to be shit on. Them. Publicly I don't know but she was on no jumper her and she said that he he likes really unsheltered Coochie and he likes to be pooped on. And people are into I. Don't know why that's Pool I. Know you're into coup, you like to smell it. You're a sniffer dogs, Poos Oh, gross bobby. I hate the smell of their poop you up to your nose. Listen why it's. It's not like I. says. Asian I, I like to smell horrible things. I'd like to smell horrible things. That's like when I colli La Poop poop. Yes he does. So he when he knows I'm going in and I tried to lock the door he he fishes the lock and. Right up to me and the toilet and he goes. Okay Okay so So. Yeah. Baby anyone who says you're gold digger. Remember. What this relationship is. A thrill. Yeah. How? You know how many underwear she sees like Brown, Shit nothing not even a stain. clumps Shit in my underwear bobby why? Why are you shitting? Aliki acid Madonna's wait you have a leaky, ass? Yeah. My Dad a lot. No. So my dad when my so my my brother when he was eleven years old had a friend over and they were playing this casio keyboard thing you know. So they do in right and my dad was taking a nap. Okay. So my dad when you wake my dad from a nap, he gets violent. So my dad ran into my brother's room by my dad was completely naked 'cause he sleeps naked. The case, Casio Keyboard as smashed it on my brother's head. He's flying all over the place right and when he turned around the leave, he had toilet paper sticking out of his asshole. Right. And would. That's when we realized that my dad puts toilet paper in his astle l later when my later in life asked why he does that he goes in my mom said that he went to the doctor he has leaky asshole. Right. So I that I feel like I have. Yeah I don't know which part is more disturbing the beating or though your dad's affable corked toilet paper, it's the Asshole Dasell. Beating was. Very violent in my home, you know. On now now. Prep your. Paper up your asshole. No no no. I Live I. Don't WanNa, be like that. So I just let it flow free. Blade. Find God. I do. But if you're if your diet is good but the turns be like. Because I feel good. Only leak if you have diarrhea. It. Oh. My God. It's e- if your diet is good that doesn't necessarily mean that you're you're shit is going to be fucking always solid. Well I did. Authorize Bobby if I can interject. You do you or do you not have a pizza refrigerator? I do but you know I think that. I. I might maybe maybe maybe very happy. But those are the reasons why I wanNA tell the guys that choose for. Because I. Right it's like she has to see right inexperience. The worst human atrocities one can see right and she's still with me no. Footfall guy my shift ends. Absolutely. So, but it's clearly with me. I do but I kind of like even though I in that moment, I don't like that it's happening I. I do like that. You're playful in that way like I'm attracted to is that he just not by the book about anything and he's such a human tornado that I feel really drawn to that to that storm can I ask you? So you'll be taking a dump and Bobby is pick locking the lock while you're taking a dump. And do you say anything you say to them? Don't come in and bobby remains stop don't come in you everytime China needed. If, is halfway out my but I just chance it and do a half stand up to try to close the door. So you're taking adult. Learning the door was open, he would just come hang out with you and so. Yeah. Well inhales like she doesn't. She doesn't Fart in front of me or that kind in every like twice a year out here l. here apart from you. Turn me off. She thinks that it's GonNa, turn me all I. Don't think anything of it just. I'd like to never have sex again here girlfriend far. Yeah I don't think it's going to turn you off. I just prefer not to there's this whole house already smells like Shit I'm John I'm trying not to contribute more to the to the overall aroma of our lives but I want to go back you. Saw Bobby have you gone really good at pick locking that bathroom door. Uses a safety. Ban is one of those things with that. All right. Put the pin and it opens it. And then he comes in and puts his head between your legs like in the bull no man. Okay. You just come. Oh. Okay. So you just hang out and bask in the smell I just come into the bathroom. And I do big sniff so I can just see it. You know she's healthy or not. Leave. He does this thing where he pretends to not enjoyed. He's like, ooh. Also if I'm like if I'm taking a nap am on my side, he'll ambush. He'll come in and just spread the cheeks and try to take a deep your knows in our asshole and sniff. What's the weirdest thing? What's the weirdest smell you like? I like Dead Bird. Versus? View. Death in general. Like bird. So you went up do found a dead rotting dead bird and you sniff the fuck out of it. Well, the bird that died in the backyard. Yeah. It didn't smell like anything or you just smell it of close. No, I did. Yeah. It didn't smell the. Age of the pandemic. So I I made a shoebox call it flew because you. burned. Took a shoebox and I put the dead bird in the shoebox and I. made it. Nice. A little bedding. Yeah. We made a we had a memorial before I taped it up to but before I did that I went I smelled hated it. That means you liked to. Aided it and then I close it backup and I taped every buried it. I like the smell of you know when you have a uring whole. Press on it. Oh Yeah. I stuff comes out if you. Sorry. What I didn't this is I didn't know about this. The fuck she ear hole. Yeah it's an it's like sharp Cheddar, but it's very addicting like you just very an intriguing smell. You get that behind your ear ever because I know smell behind my ear that smells like that. I don't get it in behind me here just in the. Ear Hole if I push on it in a little about that. Because I rarely wear. Earrings you have cheesy near your whole. So I feel like some of those do put the after a long time. It kind of gets irritated and then afterwards when I take it out and there's like that kind of that smell you smell that bobby. No I want to talk I'm I'm I'm I'm glad you said because I really wanted to go. Out You. Can you do it right now not? Only. needed. Yeah. Yeah what other words girls have do you ever scratch your vagina and smell your hand all the time? What part the inside or the outside? Scratched but I g like Yeah but all the time. The crank. The Vagina. Yeah now, Because I only see the vagina when it's Wet or anti you understand the anatomy of the vagina. Doctor. Question Okay. So I see the vagina and so it's opened up like a little flower when I get to see it. Okay. Because when we'RE DOING Okay but it is your Vagina Dry Sandy. During the regular days. Old. Age We have regular discharge every day lubricates. Inside of the mouth or kind of like that level of moisture less. I hope it's a little bit moist because you're supposed to have like active floor there and to keep it balanced not. Loved. Dictator I might take dry flaky dry. I writer. Janus cavernous there's like. Dick External. What are you? North. Lecture Dry Dick Like imagine for instance, if you like extra folds right and if it was really dry, you would have a lot of like friction. So what do you do you moisturizer that area so that it doesn't get chafed your. Didn't have that moisture. It would just sight leading up. You ask. Mom Kidding. Curiosity we'll check. It out for yourself. Good to see. That's it. I mean That's pretty much it. Is there anything else? No. I mean. I honestly public do another two hours. I mean, how long are we going together? Hours two hours. Yeah. I love you, guys. I. Love You too guys. We love you after the pandemic I like to see you guys flesh. That would be nice. dry day. Dude I'm just so sick of it I'm getting so. Sick of it dude. I just want to like also I feel so bad for Theodore because he's he's young vibrant boy who wants who should be out looking at the zoo and With kids and he's happy at home. He doesn't know what he's missing but like it's it's it's just it's tough. It's getting tough. It'll it'll pass but I am playing video games at night. What are you playing lately? I play a lot of warzone. You know that What's her name? Yoko Yoko? Ono has a song called warzone. That's really funny. Really. Does it. Do you what do you play evening I just. Like Super Low Games like I've been, I've been playing hollow night. You know that game. No. Multiplayer Games is too stressful. Yeah Yeah I get to get competitive and and the problem is I get competitive and also I'm not good. Not good either. But you know wars you have an sponsors of. Warzone and. It's all across all platforms like if you have a place, I haven't Xbox we still on. The. Can hear the dogs. Oh we'll just we'll just ended here I. Love You. Okay. That's it by Bobby Love you get. All right. Bye. Daycare.

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The PowHer Event with Shelia & Shea: When Women Run

The Shelia Diaries

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The PowHer Event with Shelia & Shea: When Women Run

"Have you ever thought about starting your own podcast. When I was trying to get this podcast off the ground I had so many questions? How do I record an episode? Where do I find background music? How do I get my show on Apple? PODCAST spotify in all the other places people like to listen. Where do I find advertisers? The answer to every one of these questions is really simple anchor. Anchor is a one stop shop for recording hosting distributing and monetize in your podcast and best of all. It's one hundred percents free and one hundred percent ridiculously diculeng really easy to use. When I first heard about using anchor for free podcasts hosting I need to recognize the value the platform? I can just use my phone to record upload I can edit set up a profile an ED background music. It's everything I need but then I ran into a problem. I wasn't sure who or what I wanted. My podcast be so yeah. I have a few titles. 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Have you know we always have hardening Thomas on the table. This weekend will be no exception last week and we talk politics. Some brands we talked about. Some challenges are running for office and we talk about black voter apathy last week. And I told you that this weekend it would be black her pap lacquer Ahmed sisters up in the camp and we are excited about this show today because we are going to be talking about so pretty important issues not only black with local power as it is expressed by our our sisters black women but we have in studio today to black women that have run for public office and experienced first hand the challenges challenges stepping up to assume the mantle leadership talk about the Metoo campaign talk about some challenges of being a successful powerful awful woman in the context and and ended the political world awesome and talk about an exciting campaign or the decisions are working on as well so keep a lot riding on ninety two point one one FM Choice FM people station. Let me go ahead and give you phone numbers right at the beginning of the show. Let's say you can keep it off handing over phone lines if you're in the Raleigh. Durham Chapel Hill area. Your number is not one is down breath in his eggnog Myself to get nine one. Nine eight seven into nine to one zero of your Rally Chapel Hill area. If you're a great eastern our state to five two nine three seven seven four zero zero when rivals going down and keep them close. Move over the phone line so you can get into this conversation so without further ado. Let's get into this time excited about our guest here in studio today. First of all those of you that are in derm area the Raleigh Durham Chapel Hill area. These names will be pretty familiar to you. Because they are two prominent meaning mm-hmm and they both they both just recently for public office. I hear a triangle area particularly Dermot I recognize and welcome. I'm attorney she'll of Huggins. Who was a city council candidate for ward three and the city of germs? He's a prominent attorney. Is Ashby launching a new campaign focused on women's political empowerment along with our other yesterday a moment. But I'M GONNA Wealth Sheila Hudson's council welcome thank eighty Mark Anthony. I'm glad to be here today. Has Everything on the web. There's there's going to be better when we get to the conversation and I WANNA WELCOME MS. Shane Ramirez Ramirez who is an entrepreneur businesswoman. She was also a former candidate. For Mayor of the city of Durham. Really exciting campaign in the city of Durham and her name was out there. which in addition to being a political person? She's also a businesswoman and entrepreneur community leader. So we went welcome share Ramirez to the table. You thank you mark in these things. Well thank you go for the year. Yucky see right now because they rocking the power. Her SCHERZER'S POWER NOT SPELLED P. O. W. E. Arba P. O. W. H. E. R.. And we'll get into that in a minute. We're excited about at this up new campaign that they're wanting focus on on black political power taken by her sisters expressed by our sisters so listen to the table. Both this is a very serious topic today. Last week we talked about some of the challenges of running for office and we have resin here but lately in the news we been been hearing story after story of of powerful and prominent men who are accused of sexual harassment allegations of sexual harassment. We've seen the HASHTAG METOO campaign all of the Internet where it seems like just counters women and some men but but mainly women of other experienced sexual harassment or abuse. Coming forward and saying Hashtag me to So the airwaves. The Internet's has been inundated created by these issues. So both of you are two prominent women that have excelled in your chosen careers and chosen field attorney. Are you a business unitarian shield and you a businesswoman shape and you both run for office as well so I think you both unique perspectives to this conversation. So let me just get get your general. Feel you've just off the campaign how you feel. And how was it running for office as as as a black market Sheila I'M GONNA go first A little different for me. I've worked on numerous campaigns. I've been politically. I could probably since I was a teenager. But it's very very different being behind the scenes and being in front on stage all the time and so that was probably something. Well it was. It's just a little different for me. I'm not typically a very public person so you have to do a lot of self promotion and get out there in front of people so that was probably one of the biggest big things but you expect that when you're running for office Shahab out you you just you make in our city. We had a alleged decide assigned to run me bill. Dale Ostra Sixteen years as Mayor Steve. Durham decided not to run. So let's kind of being cries out there you you. You ran for mayor so I was that well. It was very exciting. It was an awesome experience A lot of females came came to me during the process and they said that they were excited That I was writing a lot of them. Emphasize me me that they wanted to run for office but they were scared. They didn't have the self-esteem A- confidence So for me. It was just putting myself out there not going for people who watch run for city council or lower sees. I'm like well first of all. I'm Shay Ramirez and I wanted to run for mayor allowed to reintroduce say that's why Buffalo Office so I had people that had you know negative things to say But again I have seen the confidence I believe in myself and Dan I think I did a pretty darn good job first. Time Run for office. I have degraded public administration. So it's not like I'm not familiar with the field on really big on into politics six. I love watching. The News stayed in tune and for me it was just more so the Celtics team of confidence so I think I allow other women to have that open door were to wear you know what I can run for office. That could change other than just talking about facebook. Actually doing so Sheila this above w shield. Did you experience things on the campaign trail that you thought were made you say our man with. They said that that had happened to me campaign. So do you want me to give you an answer back during this one hour show or do you want me to write a book you know so yeah well like I said before you know different being behind the scenes when she stepped out in front of people you know you open yourself up to a lot of criticism I think I had a number of people reach out to me with with the thinking that they were trying to be of assistance to me so oh since she say we're gonNA keep it real. I'M GONNA break it down for you because I don't think people really understand what it's like when you're a woman so yeah well you you know what they'll probably see later and they will know exactly what I'm talking about them but you know it was everything from taking a look at my facebook page and seeing who was or what who who is taking pictures with I got criticisms about a lot of pictures with me with other men and very few pictures of me with my husband and my daughter and so I'm having to have a conversation with people about the fact that hey look remember what. It's my facebook page number two. My daughter's role rule. Is You do not post pictures of me on social media and so I tell her rural so every once in a while you see pictures of her from the back but really that's it both of them. John Emerson their interests. They really don't like to be out in public like that. And so no. You're not going to see me putting them out there when that's not where they want to be a lot of criticism about that. You need to have more family pictures up there. I was just like no. I'm not going to violate what the comfort level is just to make other people feel secure about what's going on in my household so number two. I got criticisms on type of shoes. Our War I needed to take off the heels. I needed to let go of the skirts and needed to tone it down a bit. In other words some people had a real problem with me as a woman out on the campaign campaign trail. They wanted me to tone it down a bit. They told me that A large segment of the Democrats in Durham. I'm an aggressive across. The country are bases black women and black women would not feel comfortable voting for somebody who looked like me. They would not feel comfortable having having me talk to their husbands about voting for me I tell you I got it all day long Monday through Sunday. From the time I got up to the time I went to bed so if I was out on the campaign trail got phone calls and there was no way to escape it. So if you're a woman just know that there's some of these things things that are going to come your way. People are going to think that they're helping you but what they're really doing in effect saying you can't be who you are uh-huh and that we're going to have a problem with you unless you're willing to change who you are and I'll tell you all day all night unequivocally who I am and I'm not changing who I am for anybody say experiences you think work particularly because you being woman that you you think may or may not have experienced different cylinder from one Simmons's killer but when initially. I decided to run and early. This year Someone had called me. They said Shave need to remove your profile picture in life. What I'm in my studio? I have black and why anything is to glamour shot. Were Alive Glamour Shot. I'm not oh okay so I needed Tony Damn I like I'm in my studio professional nationals pitcher but it was up takaful but I didn't understand what the issue was so they said well no you can't you can't have a pitcher light if you're going to be running for mayor so I have a lot of people amid initially started working with me and you know I had one of my friends. He's official Saudi said. Well you know you need to do this might look. You are getting on my nerves. I know how to dress right. I know how to conduct myself. I don't need you to tell me how I need to look where to be and I had a huge issue with that Because a lot of people say oh she she also model ABC. Like I guess because I own them all HCE. Oh I shouldn't be running from me. I'm not smart enough to run for Mayor Serbian politics because I have a model agency in fashion. I understand what those to have to do. Anything for me. I feel that a lot of women on some women can be intimidated by a woman with confidence. I ran into some issues with people on on the trail which you know knuckle calling is shows net. Hey name's Komo news but I had to. I had to make sure that I stayed shame. But you know can't be cooling classing writing for politics from me is you have to. You can't say really what you want to say without offending somebody But you you can still say it politely and nicely in someone's going to get an attitude with you But I had to let people know you know for me with politics. I do not like people that are fake. I don't like people. I'm a real individual and if I have a problem Kim GonNa come to you and I feel people do the same but I noticed that on on the campaign trail. It wasn't that was not the case a lot of back and forth so as to what I need to be doing high big looking or how I should be dressing in like. I don't I don't understand being who I am and initially. When I first started run people was telling me different things? I'm maybe I. Should you know my nails. Nobody bundy companies are way down. Maybe I need to do my hair like this because I like big here so you can't have become gotta have straight here so that's why I'm here and I'm like you know everybody's getting on my nerves Like nearby on earth so I had to. I was in a store one day in this lady. Caucasian lady came to me and she said you know what. I don't know where you're going to look really nice by mirror t shirts jeans and she said You look very nice. I like it. I said to actually question if you see me. And would you vote for me and she said you know what this is older. She said I want you to do me a favor and I want you to be yourself. Your glasses are fine because I have different glasses in you widows pink glass you got you got put on a promise declared with Allocating hers. So you know I the Laura you know just to be who I was initially I was trying to alter my sale But I had an older white lady. Tell me you look Nice. I like if you beat yourself and I called him. They say shade. Be Yourself because I noticed during the campaign trail even on the phone I started to be somebody else that I wasn't and I had to be mad to get comfortable. I wasn't 'cause I was trying to be. I guess somebody else but still but still cleaned up and I had to learn. Just be me the end Alba's couple being me. And that's that's how I was able to get through the campaign trail again to enjoy it. So this fight what people say. Just be you listen listen to choice. FM This is your brother in your host mark. Anthony Middleton on the table with Mark Middleton. We've got two powerful women that we're talking about being confidence confident woman in the context of politics in the context of business some of the challenges that come along how overcome those challenges and how to face some of the discriminatory Tori behavior that women oftentimes experience and this is enlightened from Iran. To and I heard a lot of my fellow. Hello almost all of my fellow. women candidates Talk about some of the comments that are and some of the I got I got a text on a you know what. Let me just to you as the asking. Are you guys sometimes hypersensitive or or do you need thicker skins if you're gonna be in politics because it's a context where folks say stuff to people all I I'm I'm not playing in the minimum. I has craig stuff to me during the I don't know whether you can do it or black because all the will you stay focused saying you're being too sensitive if you can't stand the heat get out the kitchen. This is how politics is this. How corporate the America is? What are you gonNA stay there so yeah so I guess they're a couple things I'd say that and one is typically that sort of stuff roll off of me anyway so and what I tell? People is look. You've got to work really hard to offend me. Which means you gotta get up early in the morning and the jam and so you know? Oh my look this. You know. There's a difference between being able to take something. Keep going what you're doing and then being able to say well. Hey you know. Maybe that's something we need to have a conversation about so at look at what I'm doing is acknowledging that some of the comments were made need acknowledging that maybe women are treated differently in a lot of space is not just when they're running from office but in the workplace in other areas the thing is I think we need to have conversations of how that about weather taking k taking place because what happens is you have some women that will never step forward because they they just don't want to subject themselves to that and so we WANNA make sure we're providing a good atmosphere for any woman who is thinking about running for office but but yeah look some days. I'm hypersensitive but most people know that I let that stuff role. Now keep on going so unless you're like really coming after me with some sort of personal attack. It's it's not won't bother me. I didn't change what I was wearing. I didn't stop wearing makeup. I didn't stop doing my hair so I can tell you right now just kept on doing what I wanted to do. Jabber you're going to get to power power. Her I it power known Ya al her back to that hot concept go you want to quit is not the fact that I'm hypersensitive For me I just want respect and I know everybody's knuckle respect you but I had an issue of people deliberately disrespect me in my face. I know his politics nine Dirty I have no problem with that Because they don't care what anybody says about. Let me I know who I am. I love myself my self. Esteem is a hundred and ten percent. So none of that stuff bothered me but underneath me right for mayor underneath me being shake maybe is in me so I had to control myself because I will not looking at. You can't let John King lived on that Modicum outage she might. I would try to keep it in there so it's not the fact that I'm sensitive is just I want people to respect me and I know people who WanNa talk about me but you're not gonNA liberally. I believe top of me my face. If you call me I'll set person company dress me if I were poverty. I'm GonNa Address you and I think I feel that. It's a lot of the people in the world but in politics laws backstabbing infect people not on new faith. I'm a real person and again if I have an issue you have you. Should we just come to me I the situation would allow him to make sure you don't know what you're doing you need looking to Hawaii if I don't know what I'm doing you know what I'm doing because I've been run for office office. Why don't you tell me your Africa one? What was lifting each other up but yet? So you're trying to terry you're out. You're doing so I just got bought me that you can criticize me run for office but what you do and I asked what are you doing. She just looked at me exactly. You're not doing anything. So you're makers I'm doing something that you feel. I'm not doing something right. You've been in this field for a long time. Well you give me some volatility. Why are you trying to tell you? So that's my issue when people like and we as a community we we also they need to stick together in a lot okay. I'll be doing really wants to together or do you want to take them so we're in studio with Shea Shea. Ramirez CEO Joe Shea Bella Modeling Agency and former candidate for the mayoralty. Durham North Carolina and turn Sheila Huggins while attorney ratios. You got an office home thing member of the Democratic National Committee and also a former candidate for the city council of the Bull City City dern. They're both interview with us today. Here on the table with Mark Mills and so. This is all about Powell. Her P. O. W. H. E. R.. Yeah that is hot shirts on your home for the for the host. We did got word of the I know I shirked just somewhere. y'All wrappings Nice Gray long sleeve t shirt named Howard on it but it still H. E. R.. So Oh what's up with her. So yeah so you know one of the things that happened when we were out on the campaign trail one of the things that I tell people that I didn't expect was to gain as many friendships as I did. especially with the other women who were running and it's sort of like hey we're all in this together. Are We know what we're going through. There were times we were sharing things you know via text message or calling each other up and just you know giving each other heads up about toppings making sure that we were supposed to be. Hey I'm not sharing. I'm not saying that that's right back among look. Yeah so we were keeping real you know we were keeping the friendships real and so you know some of these things came up about how we looked and how we hear it ourselves and how we we presented ourselves and one of the things I mentioned to a couple of the other candidates was getting together after the election to talk about out some of the challenges that women face when they're running for public office not just talking about it though talking about how got around some of those challenges and and then walking away with a charge to say. Hey look okay. I'm either going to get behind the candidate by putting out yard signs. Maybe I'm going to raise money. Maybe I'm going to do phone own calls about can't do phone calls in canvas but whatever it is. I'll do something because I understand that. The world works a little differently when we have women running for office and we want to make sure that we're doing everything we can to support these women. And so yes Shannon SORTA hooked up and so we've been talking about a- and pulling together panelists. Stephanie Rawlings Blake. Who is the former mayor of the city of Baltimore? You're she will be facilitating the event for us so she actually will be bringing her own experience to the table because former mayor of such a large city she can talk about some of the challenges that she based and how she got around some of those issues and so we'll also have all student who ran for the Durham City Council were three seat and then also Bridget Wall Limit Linen. Who ran for wake? County Town Commissioner. Are Those those people have already committed. And so the ideas that have a setting where women can just be really candidate and so we're all sitting around the table in you guys are listening. Well you I don't understand. Is We went to a ton of forms. I mean it was like twenty forms and you have to understand. We're always under the time keeper. whose either saying BBB or were there holding up a red card saying got talking? This is not what this is this is I sitting down having an informal conversation and dialogue back and forth among women. About how do we make the environment better for women who are interested in running for office and for women who want to support them so shays is this going could be a one time event or is I mean to me. What's going on with the METOO? It needs to be blooming. This needs to encourage what's going on in the world. I need need some courage women to get out there in office and I was looking at seeing yesterday and they were saying that it's going to be a movement women. I'm going to get out there and they're going to actually foul home for to run for office and I think that that's very important because a lot of times I think again that we don't have the confidence because we're just it's not it's not something that's the norm for limited to run but I think they did. It needs to happen because as I was doing my research. Running for me Women make better leaders. I'm just GONNA be which so go go. You don't let me tell you something anytime you can birth. You can birth both human. What are you you can't you can't if you have welcome trashing lead rather you have a baker had to be called up get seek women say so we have a household we run a key as we run the hood we do everything and we still take care of ourselves? So I can. We weren't we can we can. We can do anything we can do it. We do efficient. I WANNA do ya. I'm telling you when the issue is in the world that we need some women office because we're not gonNA have on his. It's GonNa get shut down. We're not we're not swinging. We're not gonNA take it will be a what say you ought now playing better leaders. You heard it here. Order came with your brother. You build Khloe all minds up around. Durham Chapel Hill Areas Shea nut one nine eight seven to nine to one zero. If you're an eastern part of our state in two via two nine three seven seven four zero zero you call it and we put through a whole. Don't hang up we know you're there. We just don't want to interrupt the flow. We're in the middle of the conversation but we will get your call so please do not hang up. gave me up on facebook on the table marking up in the Middleton hit me on twitter at Mark Middleton One instagram am marking up in the middle of. And if you want to use the Internet to send your question it common in to my personal friends please. Stop them on my personal cell phone. Can you hear me personally. So hopefully we'll respond to that but the power. When is it good? How did people reach out to you? Can Boys come tell me when did on. ESN December. I six twenty ninety two eight thirty PM. Look we're keeping short the first time around because we really want to focus initially the thought was to really just focus on on women and having women attend but I tell tell you have so many guys saying wait. Can I come. She truly can. I can come so look. I think we need to open the doors to everybody is and say. Look if you're interested in coming come because here's the thing we gotta all work on together like we as women. Can't it just do it. By ourselves we have to have our allies are brothers with US dance. Keno that's right that's right. Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid and so really truly so And so we were initially set up for Shea space but but I haven't even had a chance to tell Shane. We had an opportunity to get a bigger space so we're looking at but yes December. I six twenty two eight thirty. PM and look you can hit us up on facebook you can give me a call and my numbers everywhere. It's not even private right. Those those say did sir nine one nine six one two six three one nine. What's on nine one nine six one two six three one? Ah Calling these women above Mary having does not you give without her. That's a whole nother. Conversation has got to put some others still working things out patient with December I. It consists twenty six twenty six twenty six twenty who you already hear wonderful new movement of start assistance. We hope that you will pluguin. Dan Bruns is well on the power of these two one of the leaders Shave Ramirez and Sheila Huggins here on the take with your brother and your host mark. Anthony Middleton we we are at the bottom of the hour the phone line of your sister out there whether run for office and not you may be working in corporate America. You may be doing your own thing. Maybe an entrepreneur And you have some wisdom you share with us and perhaps a story or anecdote testimony about your struggle. Some of the strategies used to succeed the some of the things you have to endure. You may want to edify our listening audience of assistance. Listening others is listening even two brothers. That are listening. Please call us up if the other question about the power. POW H. E. R.. Moving and how you can plug in a share Ramirez and Sheila Huggins to take your questions to respond. Doc your comments the lines are open can do fancy little rock and says I think we got to payments left on that. He wants a time. Check this out. Kim's on board fads one right now air Jordan Jordan official here that way may be up with the phone looking at a little slower not one nine eight seven to nine to one zero review rally earn Chapel Hill area. If you're an eastern part of our stay two five two nine three seven seven four zero zero. We're talking about black. Hey Girl magazine. We're talking about the challenges of women in the workplace in politics. We're talking about going to get into depowered. His hashtag Metoo to a movement. That's going on talking about power. POW H. E. R.. How her at two leaders of this new movement both run for public office and they are now? Fostering discussion about women in politics women in Corporate America we meet in the area around the challenges facing supporting one another and educating the rest of us how can be allies and supportive as well so the Hashtag the meat to Move very very powerful. I was looking facebook and social media sometimes and Not Seeing some of my heroes women that have been toward being embiid instrumental in my life saying Hashtag me too. I'm like you know. They're so powerful union German. Imagine that somebody would even try these women because they're so powerful and so you know and then it also made you think back because you know high school junior high school elementary school the playground. You know little you challenge for go grab a girl's Budi and run away. You don't think about that as sexual harassment but when you look back at it you know I think a lot of us brothers be included you. You realize that you know that a lot of things we repent for a lot of things we need to rethink. How raise our sons and our doors and how we you know? We we socialize our children. It is very very powerful movement. And how how am I asking to. You know personally testified as to whether or not you're in that or affects you but hi. How did how did you feel? How does that make you feel as a talk? Radio can't see this but both Shea and Marquette you're looking at me like I'm the One star where they answer. It's it's interesting you now and I think it speaks to a change in times because it didn't really hit me hit. Hit me very differently. The way you just said like I had not thought back to the playground in to just said and I was just like Oh wow year. There was the playground now. I'm thinking waiting for people who are about to walk elementary school to be honest but look my daughter just turned sixteen. You know and I'm this person who likes to hug people and kiss and even she has said to me on. Excuse me you don't touch touch me without my permission. You know and so she knows what the limits are. She knows that her body is her body. And you just don't get violated just because you you want to you know and so I encourage that but yeah I you know I think for for period of time we thought these things were maybe rites of passage you know that was just boys. Did boys and girls growing up. They played they. It was it was what you did when you were growing up but I think we need to change our concept of what rights of passage look like in May should be more about teaching our young kids what's acceptable behavior and how you respect each other. Because ultimately both genders grow up and they enter into relationships with other people and and so some of these behaviors that they learned they take into these relationships as adults and not just the personal relationship but it flows over into the professional relationships and how you treat members of the other gender from a personal standpoint. I I can't it really say that I've been in a number of situations where I felt like I was personally violated I can think of maybe one in particular and I was fairly young and I was at a party in Chicago and the guy was but you know young people beer. You're okay whatever but nowadays. I think you know. None of that's acceptable. I think there's still a lot that goes on. That's a little more subtle and I think sort of the way that women treated are harassed on a more less physical but a more emotional level is just as bad too so I think we need to be talking about both and I'm glad to hear US having this conversation but the next piece has to be about well. How do we learn to move forward forward to several different things for me? I have six teenage daughters and I have one on. That has autism should be sixteen in January and One of her best rains experiences situation of weeks ago. Oh she was in Valet she was punched in Chester. She has a disability. Just being kind of being nice to someone and for me what I'm concerned about is you have Beautiful young ladies that might have a disability. And they're you're not gonNA know if someone is violating them so that's not okay. So how do I. How do I talk to her? And let her know how. And he's safe and no one someone is not right. I think she understands but you never can tell because she has autism and they think they're the age now where they they knew everything so her thing is and even her best friend. Underground teenager grown to injure okay. But you still don't you know you don't you still don't know you know these people and I think when people guys or girls when they someone has a challenge on disability they take advantage which of them so I don't I don't want my daughter to be in a situation where she's being taken advantage of this. She doesn't know. So that's the scary part for me. I really haven't had too many situations out. Pretty much I have a lot of friends male friends from school. And I've always been the cool chick you know what I'm saying talks. Oh is people are no. Don't even prochet like because she she so uh-huh beatdown guys. It's really quickly. I will fight you so it's always been my attitude as its scraped Asher Ham. Don't even try because I heard you so I really don't have those issues air by are known to play games but it's a situation to where it needs to be handled but also I also do think For me you know if it starts or if it starts. Sorry I'll tell women to not saying be don't want we'll just just you know. Just give them that. Look or the attitude to where we're not even GONNA go there so I'm going to encourage you not to go there with me. that's how probe situations and I said. I have several male friends from school and it's not it only be looking at me like that. It's just like she home rushing cool. What I'm saying is that you company like the emerging so I just have it that that approach to where is it in deal? Thing is the boy's club kind of thing breaking up these days as less. I mean both of you. We all politics. There seem to be particularly around where you know. There are men mid of power influence or mid that have platforms seemed to feel inoculated or kind of pretend title to do this kind of things and oftentimes me who are in platforms. Who are who have power web influence some cover for each other as well verges on the voice voice club is do you think with all of the reporting on his there that is lessening? Or there's still more work than needs to be done with men holding each other accountable as well or do you think it's getting better. I think there does need to be more men holding each other accountable but I I I think. Sometimes it's hard for men to navigate it because because You know there's sort of what the societal expectations are for how you treat. Here's society. Here's how we generally should just respect each other but then you have these sort of personal relationships with people that you know. Oh you sorta go like she just said. Sometimes it's your homeboy and you grew up together and so you talk to each other in a way that's different from how you might talk talked to other people and so sometimes you have these personal relationships that dictate how you communicate okay. What you need to recognize that in general that that doesn't necessarily transfer over to how you treat members of the other gender in general and that you should be treating people with respect you know so? That's yeah I think there is something to say that that Look Voice Clubs still in effect. Okay all you have to do is look at. WHO's the CEO CEO of all of the fortune? Five hundred companies to see how many women are listed. You know in a couple of years ago I actually did a Google search because I was looking for a certain image image that I wanted to use on something and I put in. CEO Okay. There were pictures after pictures after pictures of men. Okay and one of the first pictures of a woman that came up was Barbie. CEO Okay so it was a doll. Okay I'm Intel and so you have to wonder wander when Google was doing its algorithms. You know it's based on what people are looking for him. What people's perceptions are and so you know it takes you to get to the second or third page before you get to a picture of an actual woman who's a CEO you know? So there's a whole he said for what the status quo looks like in terms of. Who's who actually has the power power in this country not just political power but economic power? Also so I think we have a lot of work to do I just just you put it out there We focus on on women. And I think rightfully selbe sexual harassment is something that can happen them in as well. I mean you look at big strapping Terry crews through from the the oath by version. He's he's right now embroiled in a situation where a male harassed him anybody walk walk up and grabbed Perry crew. I don't know if they think about it but just to put it out there that this is something so what we understand that this is something that can happen it does happen to all of us. Were focusing record represented man. Oh yeah so so. Yeah because some about work As an attorney you know has to do with social media and communications and Internet law and so I mean even right now. I'm working with a young young but I've I've represented in the past who have have run into some situations that could be considered harassment. Yes I mean a women women on matters having yeah I mean yeah it. It was a one case it was a woman who was you know. And it's just like leave the guy alone. Okay and and so yeah but I will say in most instances. I mean it's exactly what you expect. Okay it's young women okay. It's personal relationships ships and you know I sat in my office one day and had to tell a woman. Look You keep your head up okay. Don't listen listen when other people tell you that well you shouldn't have done that. And you should have entered into a relationship with people enter into enter into relations with other people because they care about now just because the other person takes advantage of that and is disrespectful and start to sit down. The harassed rap doesn't mean you did anything wrong. Okay but I do see a lot stemming from young women their personal relationships and then on the other side of things you have this whole social media piece where we are people just fill now they can say do anything you know and they think they can get away with it and they really can't just matter of time before you we hunt you down on the table with your brother and your host Mark Anthony Middle's Rocky Mountain was up Wilson the submarine but what's up rally. Barron Chapel Hill was up. We want to hear from you on the People's station in Choice F.. M. 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It's nine one nine six one two six three one five and you facebook I think because like Sheila Huggins or Sheila and Huggins look. I don't know but one lucky that myself people ask me like you don't know no Ooh can you give us like the non we can choose hug shades the okay and the location to be determined. I well I think we may be over Golden Bill. You know. We're looking at a bigger space. So yeah let's the hike last problem Now just to be clear. Men can or can't con men. Can we l let me put it to you this way. Though we don't don't get don't get upset if your seats of sort of near the back of the room sharing their leader so we we already resigned ourselves to second-class shirt. You brought US shirt. Yes yes yes yes measure. Yes absolutely all right sir. I at six twenty. We're looking forward to power. Pow Age e R Hit US up on facebook on the table. With Mark Middleton ability hit me up on twitter at Mar Abo or follow me on twitter at mark. Middleton Mark Middleton one so oh Shane F Sheila. I'm always fascinated when I talked to two leaders and folks that are doing things about the things that you use to edify to encourage you in and what you do to make you use. What do y'all read with your heroes and the elected reading authors woody? Woody all do when you're not being superwomen wonder when the kids are all stopped reading three months ago. Oh wait is that another questionnaire I thought. Would they think about me the big all those facebook tonight. Thank you know weary would yeah. It's so I have no. I recently got to the point. Where you know okay? I'll take my shower in the more. Make sure I have my good mindsets. Actually it starts way before then. Okay so you know. Shaking is shaking her head because she knows. We're going to the gym in the morning. That's how I start my day. That's how I pull it all together like so. Here's the band and this is i. But don't hit the gym good. I might hit. You WanNa see me in thinking. They're heroes who look ah throughout the campaign trail. Who did I tell you? Who did I talk about? I talked about my parents my mom especially in people who know me the and saw me out at different places. No that I had my mom on the campaign trail with me. My father was out on numerous occasions then his wife. And so you know family is truly what it was all about for me My father six terms on the Gringo City Council. He was mayor pro tem. My mom is currently serving her second appointed term to the Pick County Board of Commissioners. I grew up knocking on doors. Registering people evoke. Bravo's ever able to register to vote myself. We got off the school bus. We went down to the polling place and we worked in. We handed out literature. So hey can I say fam- Family Damn Hashtag Pam who who is Europe and it's very well my husband dealt with me my craziness Po. Thank and so he was really a big support for me. My kids but The husband he was a huge supporter of some days. When I wanted to give it was one questionnaire I'm like I think twenty seven questions and I was up all night? Doing Nick were scenario Ryan. May and he was leaving off to of course Nelson sometimes like going. No I'm like I'm doing just a questionnaire and I shouldn't cry. Here's the question was hopping on was made with him so he was. He pushed me a lot Even when you know had not members of the follow through I did have some people on my team that were were consistent. And that were there for me. And was couple of good people but not as many really Wednesday in the kids the other teenagers so they do what they can do but he was really. He did with me moping and growing nickel plane. I'm in in when I was having a good day when I was having people still in my silence so he did all that I got a great end of he got all of it and he took it in I know I was aggravated by. This is ridiculous but I stuck in there. It was not easy. I had good days bad days but but I can tell you what got me through. Its Jim Junkie. And I have to memberships planet fitness and the wide in if I don't go workout the kids snow because I'm really irritable in might snap the kid's neck he hasn't it. Somebody's GonNa get snapped so I work out and while working out I do my devotion and I read my Bible. So that's what got me through because if not acting straightened. The applaud food will again feature steel year Scientists you had you had like the picture on it and hangs it just takes the one to stay. How's your question because I remember at one forum in both Yup and kind of chime in on this as we approach the top of the hour? Just talking about sexism. I think you've got a question about how you manage. It'd be mayor and take care of all your kids and I couldn't imagine them asking the man for that question in so I was sitting host asked the the male American and to do that was like that. Sounds kind of seconds that let me Zampa some of the things. That power is a deal with. Y'All did you consider that sexism. I mean I did I just I might think is that. I don't understand because we are women that we have to be treated differently because run for office again. We are women and we do a lot and I think we'll get overlooked for the things that we do I just don't understand why people feel that politics Topsy IOS they have to be to be empowering to be a man. That's not I true because again and I'm not gonNA reiterate it but in the end we are. We are powerful people. You know what. I'm saying what we're burping demand that are running so one for us. They wouldn't be year so for me. I think we need to be. They need to respect this when the opportunity because I think if we work together we can we can do some get the opportunity to. She is definitely good job. Yeah actually had Actually attended one of the candidate. Interview sessions with one of the political action committees and I got asked a similar question and it was. You know Howard you you know going to be able to handles roles being on the city council you know as an attorney and a mother and I told him I told him look. Oh you know what I had my daughter. My Third Year of law school. I stayed in a study for the bar. That passed the Barker's time around. I had just completed my third half marathon which I completed in under two hours after put together and accountability team to help me do that. I said so. You know whenever. I put my mind to accomplishing think something. I can do it so I don't think this will be an issue but I think just like Shea said I mean I think we get asked questions. Sometimes that people would never consider asking a man. I don't think I ever got asked about my ability to do the job because of my life configuration about mine. I believe tonight minister active Denver about my ability. I think racing I got these. Are My bow ties harder about how but never anything so smashing about the height of your shoes a fit of your hair. Your hair granted. You don't really have any hair on your head certainly but yet so bad to to get it. I'm like I'm five to in order for me to have have a conversation with people. I need attack on some three inch heels. I need to look like I was not. I mean you keeping you right now I don't do. I mean I'm not really doing stilettos you know because I need I need something with a Chunky Bass but I understand staying at what presenting a presence means and what that looks like And it means that I need to be able to stand face to face and IDA I when I'm having a conversation with them. Well I can certainly understand folk Some intimidated by the new boat. Because you two very powerful capos women were so grateful that you spend time with us here today. Sheila Huggins Attorney Sheila Huggins co-founder of the POW or POW. 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Wilder Bicep Injury Before FuryHerring vs FramptonNO Ramirez vs TaylorBerlanga vs Nelson

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Wilder Bicep Injury Before FuryHerring vs FramptonNO Ramirez vs TaylorBerlanga vs Nelson

"From Ituri audiences, the views expressed are those of the panelists and do not reflect anyway those are the podcast partners, sponsors or affiliates enjoy. This is Michael Buffer and you're listening to the voice of the people. Let's get ready for boxing voice. I everybody knows what you're talking about. Iran he I don't have to explain what's understood man you know what I mean about it. You know what I'm talking about man no dad you to sit up there and say explained you know what I'm talking about. His finding people you know we've been fighting Poland in steel find his. To this Guy Steele fight. Talking about. Stainless. got. White you remember that sounds like it was the Galveston giant nineteen clerk and slave quite tick. Twenty twenty percent climate Selah said on the quite. Jim Jefferies retired because I. Never quite. Tommy Burns, her saying. Unless sorta earned the right. To tell me what you are. The great white hope was that I. Turn. 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Could we make some money was stainless the way he killed that but it was fitting because we do have a Deontay while the topic and heavyweight junior fi comes out and says, yes. There was a bicep injury before the Tyson, fury rematch we'll also be talking Jamal Heron Carl Frampton and the fact of whether or not. We're going to get that fine. Are we going to get this fight between Jamal Heron and we'll discuss his win by D. Q. Over Jonathan Oquindo. And then we'll take it to across the pond. joss teller has some interesting things to say not. Very willing to fight Ramirez, but we'll give you all the details as to why. Then what has to be my favorite subject right lake I if you don't big up your people's than who's going to big up your people's right and I'm talking at ago Ben Langa versus Steven Nelson I, mean the ESPN commentary were building this fight up as. I guess to make you assumed Nelson and Berlanga could be next. But the question to you really is will Bob Arum and top ranked give us this fight or will they say it's too soon and go the marination round. Then obviously on a rare Thursday, we have five topics to discuss because the fifth one is going to be all versus Ron most and we'll be watching them I. think they get in the ring around eight o'clock or something like that but yeah, a lot to discuss mickey across the pond. Do Me Jers would do? You. Do what do I mean, how caught the hair and fight? You know earlier today. Didn't see it live. I guess You. Know I had a situation here I mean candles head was very dangerous in that fight and Whether there was previous injuries I guess to to herrings I in face up before on another fight. And I, guess you know imagine you're in the ring and all of a sudden. One of your is unplug. You know like you can't see you know I mean that's put. Got To be a very scary feeling. You know we're in a dangerous sport. So I I really really really didn't see any problem with him. Not going out there are no screw the title what's the title worth you know to to an I? You know so know I'm glad that the made the right decision and and and the. You know the The push of you losing your title. You know because I heard one of the transit you know if you if you don't, you don't go back out there. They're gonNA take title I heard something like that and I don't know if it was right or wrong or what exactly meant but. I immediately, you like man don't go back out if you can't see from one. A man I'm glad you. You went straight into it man you'll. This is Sunday those what we do we talk about what happened the Saturday and Friday before men and we still have one fights go to close out this weekend properly we who guests in a bit but yeah and like. The thing that everyone was talking about this morning was that herring situation just like you do me I didn't catch it live but I went back to watch it. You know and. You know what? I call. quit because at the end of the day. So Dr Decision, you know as a doctor in a corner, if a fighter tells you, econ see. The doctor said it two weeks ago he said he can't see. Let it continue and that's what happens. Right. Now. You know a lot of people are you know he should not have said that he can't see because he knows that it's GonNa. Blah. Blah. Blah all those people never been in the ring that's what I do. You know older people calling quitting and all that but one of. Politics. Yeah. That's what they're doing men. But listen what I really want to talk about is, how is it that the commission people at Ringside are supposed to know watch over fight don't understand the rules man you know hi, can you all like so much confusion because weeks in the ring knew what he was doing hundred percent. Is said it's a deliberate headbutts and he knew what it meant even for hearing corner I mean not like they don't know the rules, but it seems to me that they were not clear on all the intricacies of what should be happening. If, it's a deliberate Hedberg. Scorecard is deliberate like you know. Now I never knew that you know you could go on that long before you give the D. acute that's the one thing that I can say. but I you know the commission should have known they should have been lakes so. Around. was happening where we go to the scorecard with a hearing loses wherever you know that should be clear as day when something like that happens at least knew exactly and you know it was telling the court I can tell you what to do but I'm telling you it was a deliberate but so. Do the math bro, and just you know what's what's going to happen right. So that was interesting. You know that that's the point that I. You know I, really wanted to discuss. You know how people opinion because in a issue, the rules and you know what's beneficial for your fighters They could even have said that Mike has had happened man as he came back in. Abroad, we we getting that deal when you consider just tell them and then that's it. We don't have to go three or four rounds mates to to determine that right? So anyway. I am. Yeah. Wow. Coach these like you know I would have made a different call chair. And I would have told him. You know as soon as they take a point off and he said like you said, they Lebron Headbutt us a headbutts was going on with you. I can you seek your note c? Can you carry on 'cause? You should call you tell me and her we can carry on because of the injury has decreased rates way. Out. Was the fight for you guys 'cause I've seen. All time he wasn't bed I've seen all types of stuff on on social media. You know they're comparing it to the Mikey Garcia. Orlando Situation even in our own chat people are saying you know they're not in a rush to see him again I thought. He did what he had to do was in there with a tough guy, he scored a knockdown I mean I I don't really know. UPPERCUT. It wasn't. It wasn't vintages performance like he knows himself but it wasn't as bad as people were making it son those one Doodo strength to box, and the one was trying to make it a dogfight and combination with the heads on and Harry was not dealing with it comfortably but comfortably enough. Keeping, things that ranch I think the head was radio problem to him because you know the but the open just once you happened multiple Tammany kept complaining about it idiot lake but I mean it was comfortably ahead on the cards to me. The thing that idea understand is why Andre Ward gave like you know Oquindo the eighth round where It Ian ovenight round. The fight dope at seven right? No one of the eight zero. Eight He probably made a mistake was China fix this Carson look. So lopsided. That's the figured on. Fix You. That's what does what was. To me. That was blatant who's feeling the courts upto whatever it because you know I see him late going like eight runs. We've Lake. You know giving a nine for hearing ten four Cuando to the on the eight-run. Those that. Wow, that's cool. You know. A. Lot of people didn't like the way Was it the telecast? Was Commenting? Yeah I know some of the tweets were out there I. I didn't really understand I. Don't know if it was the fans that we're talking about or it was just a You know the people commenting on the fight. Bradley and and ward they people were just saying. They were overly harsh on the performance and it will also saying you know bordering saying that kind of like he kind of quit or something that read so but I am. On his social media, you know he sounded like you know he's about to fight Franson is over and he says. This he's got to two things. I gotTA pull up. Right. So I I don't know you could find the other one where he talked about being alone in the hospital and I'll read this one in the meantime he says I accept the criticism I'm not going to run and hide from it nor will celebrate or make any excuses about tonight if anything I'm more frustrated in need to tighten for Frampton simple as that but after this. He goes to the hospital and I guess he seeing the backlash on twitter so he has Dumi will read in the matter of seconds are now yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just so many you. You read the one where he's saying sitting in the hospital that's the one year eating. Okay. Sitting in a hospital alone being called out with all sorts of negativity and something else is something else. I'm not angry. I'm not sad just deep in thought I will still fulfill my obligations against Frampton but that fight might be my last lost too much time for my family as it is pray and emojis. I'm like. That's the reaction of someone who is not happy with what seeing and also maybe feels like little bit betrayed right so I can. I can. Fans and. How exactly but people were saying equipped like us? No right like you know you have to watch it again and understand you know if you in a corner and you tell a doc. So if the doctor gives you an assessment, you weren't that rookie movie and all that they just like pull like seems out of like real scenarios when they. Tell him how many? How many fingers can you see top beyond his neck? Right? Because if you tell a doctor, you cannot see the doctor has the responsibility and obligation to stop the fight. So when they were saying, Oh, you gonNA. Lose your tight or go back in to look said, no, he said I can't see I have no other choice the. Done. was turn is the docks who stop fight and US no more you know I. I I don't know what the what they're talking about I don't think it quits. I and there was no reason it's like it's not make it was taken a beating or something he was comfortable on the card. I, in Ecuador of carried on doing the same thing. But the fact is that it was injured to the point that it cannot see you call. Let him go back out. I hope he don't get mad at this but yet think he posted the picture like that or bloody and MREs. So like Get off my back look. It was serious. It was serious look I'm in the hospital it still leaking a mental hospital I needed to 'em right? Like this is serious. Yeah absolutely. I think I, think I think as a fighter. You're you're reading these things and you're like what the hell do people think like this is not real like do they understand yourself? Yeah. You feel like a little bit like A. Yeah like you have to almost sometimes you feel like you know you gotTa. Let it be known that that things like this are real man like you can get hurt in the ring and it's like you know sometimes as fans you're staying on the couch comfortably with your beer and you're in your bowl, the wings and stuff, and you think that that's that's not really take into account Bro. Like. Like I just said earlier if you're one of your eyes gets you're walking down the street and one of your eyes gets unplugged imagine will psychological a stress instantly that you would receive you know what I'm saying imagine when you're fighting and you're fighting and you're fighting for your life like you guys got to get that and I'm GonNa read the another one I don't know if It's my headphones right and that's The other one that said the irony. This week I was just telling a reporter I understood and respect the photos wife or wanting him to hang it up. Because is more important after children with disabilities battled through my own demons on judge I still love you all though praying hand emojis. It's the judging I don't think the physical hurts or the injuries Easter judging is the moral impact is to people that. Know what they're talking about telling you with. Him. I think it's amplified right? Because he might be like, do I get into my feelings of me? A MIDI got problem like I'm thinking of what everything many could be saying about me. So I feel like he's looking at it like do absurd to tools. I've come back from losses like he served two tours. You know what I'm saying. So fear he has none. He's come back from two losses to become a champion and he's a defending champion. This wasn't his first defense and. Saying, I'm not saying. That he was right or he was wrong. I'm talking sheerly of the negative reactions or the the fact that the fans are jumping into he quit he took the way out easy way out. You know and it's just like. Those things are based on fear. Personal takes the easy way out felt like he was in felt like he needed away like so I I get what he's saying it's like you know he's done so much not only in boxing before his country for those same countryman's to be the ones that are shouldn't on them essentially. So he could be looking at it from a totally different aspect is all I'm trying to say. No but I think seeing something like emotionally like you don't want to be judged and you don't WanNa be just like judged by people have no reason to. Doubt Your bravery all that stuff and that's what he's saying is that you know what I do. To get into the ring to entertain people all to fulfill my dreams or whatever you know how much time I spend away from my family. You know the hurt I put myself through for you to think that you know I would quit when I clearly the integral beating anything like you. You can clearly see that you can even with the injury eakin go out there and maybe just try to go over to free fall rounds right? And it doesn't understand why why people are so quick to just call people quiz and like that's the problem I. Don't get it like you know every time. We you know boxing fans look for something to say, Oh, he's a quitter. He got knocked out all ego this like I don't know man. Most people are not boxing finds him opening this social. Media. Though how'd you call them bully or people look for attention men? This is something they don't even minute. They forget that they said that the next day you. General warning. I WANNA address deacs axes a patriot. Usually I don't do that unless you know the supercharged or or Patriot so. I'm sure other people feel like him. But median doom you guys have actually performed on you know as amateurs or semi pro and he saying I'm not judging them on the outcome I. Don't know how he felt etcetera performance. Wise. He played into a coin does hands let him up and consistently let them time consistently and his feet were in mud. So I just feel like from the outside looking in and kind of facing style like that. It's really hard to be floyd. Even Floyd had the let may Donna do the wildness of? Madonna for four like you can't stop a dude who's wildly coming in show me the guy that stopped porter from coming in but you guys are fighters you guys for you know being judged in all that so. Could he have done something different or are some guys like Oquindo that choose to be that bull style I is that just the way the fight is gonNA look. I faced that that all the time because I'm like for first and foremost like a back foot fighter. So I'm comfortable there but I'm telling you it's very hard is very hard to just stop that. and. You can always do something better and at times like you know, I think people are being overly critical at times when he was doing his thing, he was doing it well when it was able to just like you know use his feet and take half a step back and just come back with the counters. It was shop with it. You have to remember dropped guy with a nice job Konta and it was just starting to catch him. It was starting to get. A bit more fluid but is Schuster idiot look good in a true to say that but it's not against everyone that you're gonNa look good. Sometimes it's about like you know being able to get a win on an off night with an opening that you'll never gonna look good again, people will not going to be happy but that fine is horrible and is difficult. I remember you'll fight when you had that and you face that style it is frigging difficult you know. I. The only way to stop that staff, how is doing what he did and it's only temporary, which is the knockdown. Other than. Other the respect from them exactly gotta get the respect Poa, you gotta hit them so hard and sometimes they still come forward because let me tell you what I thought. He was doing right was the the check right hook and pivoting out the way. Check right hood and stowed up because so I thought he was doing good. It's just that Cuando didn't care. He was stolen caution to the wind to get inside like that's his gaping I gotta get in here and mall he didn't care how it looked or how I felt. I also feel like his hand speed could have could have played a bit mornings. hans-peter was doing that Jeff Lex left took pivoting. Then he could have just come back really quickly with like a burst of combination freeze and four, and then people again keep keep on the people. If you can't stop someone, just keep them off balance suspicion are when I just WanNa come forward to use the angle people left people. Pop them an android. Sometimes, you got these guys man that you know look Thurman didn't look too good and. Trudeau that's that's that's fans Boosting I know you. I'm not trying to take down a a sub topic. I'm just saying that was one round. If we ever do a film study, he won no other row. And Ninety nine point nine percent probably agree with you right. But what I'm saying is that the people still visualize it like that because you know whenever you see a fighter, you know encountering some trouble and you know in the minds of many already got him up so far up high I mean even the top is fighters even when when, when, when Floyd Fault Mike Donna for the first time it was just like it wasn't that much that that Madonna say dead but like he lost the fight still but he he looked bad, he knows this guy's GonNa make you look. A little a little less crispy than you would normally in Kendall look you. Got You guys We gotta talk about what Kendall was doing. You know it's not so much. Jamal look bad is sometimes you got a good game plan man and looks like they had some solid in that Cordell. We're going to go in there. We're going to make this ugly. We're GONNA make a rough and tough who you don't really know what the game plan was on the other side. You know what I mean, what to do, what it really was for them in the fight. Yeah. I like shoe it was getting into wrench easily and. You know it was just trying to make things rough but to be perfectly honest. I don't remember him doing some good work when it was getting on the inside. You know it was just throwing few shots in there and that was uncomfortable but he was. People were not happy with the with the with them like looking in and nothing happening. That's that's probably why they were saying, Oh, you know it's not nice and everything there was not much actually but find me a good shot that herring hit with and they've shoe and far between find me a round that Oquendo one clearly and I remember when they won't one clearly. Except from the head but. There was really nothing really troubling herring except from like the smoldering is on work that that was all. People Super. Critical Cards anybody. You guys feel like mentioning on the card that was, of note I mean Big Baby Miller for me was a fun fight and I definitely would like to talk about the combing event Steven Nelson. The hundred percent the Coleman Komen event not only because he got stop edge and it was like a fun fight to watch. But also because it's linked to another topic that we have on Dan. Direct reaction from the from the fight like I mean. The common event I thought he would end this way because I see. No. So as being heavy-handed and a bunch is in combination well and When he gets someone, the accumulation of punches usually gets them in a space way the referee us to jump in and stop it like that's what I've seen from the shoe film study I did on him and the ideology aware is also that guy that likes to stay there and exchange. So I thought he would end up like that and does what happened right so but. That's entertaining to watch. But. I don't know what it means when Nelson in the in the division, right? who can see at one sixty eight who knows man y'all so for me I was expecting just a little bit more and I know that's like Unfair right because wall round was it that he even stopped De'andre and you know he did well I mean I guess it only looked away looked 'cause it ahead but but it was too headbutts and you know I'm with Bradley I just felt like you know he kept doing. Putting his head in the line of fire. I don't feel he was that accurate man I feel when he was digging into the body like that was his favorite combination almost reminded me a you. Midi 'cause I always see you do the one to to the body and he was doing like con- like shovel uppercuts like right side left side but. He's keeping his head the in his down 'cause he's uppercut and with it and as I was getting by and sometimes counter I felt like De'andre where hit him with a nice check lev who but It seems like Nelson has a beard and under that name. Chin. The thing is this. Air. Right like I felt like we gave them a little more trouble than I. Wanted I'm high on Nelson remember trying to tell you all about his. Ring walks in outfits and we. Hear more information they blessed us with more from. Jamal Look at all these times I've been interviewing and my never even knew about that. You know that he lost daughter man. So recipe says daughter and. Condolences obviously his family but that was information that was new to me because when I met Jamal was in a two thousand twelve Olympics. So it was just like that was before that but. He's got that big upset. Win Over Ronald L. is but if you've watched Ellis fi you know he's not fighting to the you know we want to see now that he sparring with Cannella was things going to change but when he saw You Unit Johanna. Think it was. You know eat and look like that where I'm just saying I just thought Nelson was gonNA. Terence Crawford like doing and I know I'm taking long and I'm being but I want to say that maybe that's another thing. Maybe because of the he comes out of he has a lot of unnecessary expectations may be. Probably Lear but like to me what I've seen from him like you know and when I was looking at him, I've never I was never expecting like a defensive muster rights like I've seen someone that definitely will get hits after Bob. This combination is there to get hit my reason just to forbidding him in that specific match up is because audience deandra where at the power to trouble whereas like he has the power to trout trouble dandruff where and they have a common open like. That I know is your term but this is something also is needed thing bro De'andre was out for like a year. Bro, he was out for like a use like a guy that's every day training everyday smart sparring elite dudes has a full training camp for do. And That's just we. Didn't want him to get touch at told. Picking. I like that. He wanted to kneel. Like listen we talk about Crawford and all he got hit. That's it. No one hit. You know what I'm saying like. He might hit two times but he he destroys, and again, it could be unnecessary. Criticism because he's coming out that can't. But I just I expected a little bit more the even the stoppage was like a savory from the rats it wasn't like Bo McLean, right hand and it's like Oh my God but it's never with him like you know I love in everything of sin of rarely seem like you know a one punch like no cal I tell these a heavy puncher because when he land ucla reaction from his guys but it's never like a one one and done, right I've always seen like reference jumping in. And that guy I don't know how to pronounce his name but I think it's Champs college. Yes. They both they both for him and if you watch the fight, you know we've we've Nelson is the something is like go stoppage from the referee or even corner for the towel but with the where they exchange they just you know it's it's crazy. They keep extending and like the underwear actually loss to kill each right. So but you know that was the performance was expecting from nine so you have to remember those. Relatively big big muscle bound dude also read. So you know going to see the type of movement bending to the West that you like to see very fast and like you fool where footwork in and out. So those guys are going to stand in front of each other a bit more and Braggart M- also, defensive is going to be catching. With the gloves and the shoulders and stuff like that. I mean I get wh nasty saying I mean look the Andre looked a little flat in. No He's been out for a while I. I mean, could we could we have up a better deandra probably? But overall those performances pretty good he. Andre did okay for do twelve months off like he was catching Nelson coming in with the DAD. Had your child was doing some damage at first man it was like a real. Stiff You know what if? You, know he's he ended up staying stopping them but you know I it's about the pace you know I think that if he would've started from the gate at a high pace, maybe the Andre would have broke. You know and that's just a maybe you just never know God could be off a long time but some guys got it in a man some guys just got an M. and maybe didn't performance in his eyes ability but you know he kept himself safe. And that's the point if a guy's playing it safe is the other guys responsibility to up up the pace and put them in a position where he's uncomfortable so that he can deliver shots in between you know and capitalize on it. If I, knew the guy was gone for a year I tell my guy, you know aced kick up right from the rip you know put us. He was putting the pressure on where from the beginning kind of distance well is just On I just feel as you've gotta take a shot if you're gonna be that ball and you're going to be the one making if I guess you are going to take some shots. I just felt he got hit more than I expected. I mean I don't think he got I mean look I never saw him get hit with a shower. He was hurt I seen him having fun in there. Blake does. Mean that's what was saying it was stressing his. Does. What it was I you know I keep telling you. Where are the power to hurt him in that way? Good into that fight. So but that's not a reason to take shots though like you know he's seen into them because you never know some do catch you. saw. On John. To the Ben Langa before we move on because on a telecast, obviously they was. I don't know who brought it up I maybe Kriegel and I was shot honestly because you know. Belong has faced anybody lay his last opponent was the first dude was supposed to be something and you look at. Nelson he's a little further along seventeen fights. I think he has you know Balanga only has fourteen. and. I wanted to highlight this because belong could still quiet. You know I'm sure he watched the telecast I'm sure people told them what they said on telecom. He could've still quiet and simply let them make the fight. If they wanted to make the fight, you know go the political rattener interviews like if that's who's next if that's who top brain puts in front of me. But to say you know that. He says that boy Nelson don't want no smoke with a bunch of smoke these that got me going that. Got Me going now we've had the top rank matchmaker here and both of them, but we had the one that runs things. Bruce trampled. He wanted to see Berlanga get tested in in a ten round or somebody is going to take him rounds. Do you think. The Bob top rank are going to make this fight because the guy that trampled needs to see men with is Nelson who missing GonNa get out or do you think we see them in with like De'andre whereas a common opponent and keep building it up I mean. You'RE GONNA. Goofy. Minnie. I know you're GONNA come at it right and I think that that's that's always going to be a part of it especially now that I'm more privy to the business side of boxing, right? It's like you got two guys up and coming you know you invest it in these two stocks and do you want to risk your stock right? Do you or do we make this fight happened 'cause we got to see who's the line of all lions right and we gotta find out who's the really really the next star and it just depends on the on the money planned right? That I absolutely. But I think like what would you said applies a lot to bad longer 'cause like. Know. So like I think is a probation order dude maybe started late in his career but I think he disturbs already I but the point you make is still valid for Bamanga. Do you want to put him in that soon wave that kind of fight because understand getting a young Pfizer on the COP tested but as being tested and being put in A real test this you know what I mean lack. That there is like. You high rolls having rounds with Journeyman is different from being a fifty fifty fights where you can take your I l. right. So I and I like what's necessarily say you know put him in. We've the Andrea where maybe it's like a better option and you build up a little bit more. Eventually I think the stock. In newstalk is definitely gone longer junior. If you're talking business, we've like top rank. That's the guy that we want to remain undefeated as guy that he would like to give Nelson whenever the time is rightful anger but that time is not too far thing. But as I s definitely puts him like with the android wear or another open that he's maybe not like. As heavier puncher. And, but they'll still take your round get that experience of going at ten rounds before you go in there was someone that will just. Give back with interest when you just punch him like coming back with something we've some venom on the shots as well and but that's what can happen I. Like at some point in twenty twenty, one towards the end of twenty twenty, twenty one just let Berlanga like a tool free fights but the ways talking is good. The way you should talk that's the way that gets the interest in this straightaways. That's my boy. That's how you need to. You know and they they're doing the right thing. But just like giving a few more fights before you just go that collision of the the two undefeated top bring boys at the one sixty division so. and S this'll would be inside inside house in house fire. Both top rank. It's easy to me. It's easy to make I mean looking just. It goes along with that. Are you gonna go ahead and you know cancel out your stock you know now just have them both fight and see who they're going to run with and who their budget who the budget's going to go with. But as far as as far as Berlanga and him look, you look at Stephen Else's like resume and some of the guys you know I'm not familiar with. Maybe you guys already chopped it up a bit but like there's some journeyman in there that you know you would look at as normal. You know like my man Nesbitt, they got like two hundred and whatever. So that's they're bringing even though he's thirty two, they brought him up. same way they do everybody, right? A couple of guys in the couple of Journeyman, a couple of Germany. So honestly the test is really. Going to be on both of them. You know it's not just going to be Steven Nelson you know I mean the award was supposed to be somewhat of a test, right? Definitely was like supposed to be like a more of a fifty fifty match up with two guys that are like follow comparable records read so that me scree share and give you some information looks like so cold. Steven so-called Nelson replied and said I off address me correctly I ain't no boy. I'm a grandma's man go play these Internet games with somebody else especially since everytime you see me in person is always smells. Bro Handshakes gaps. Secondly. There's so many things in his world that I could be successful at. So if I didn't want best smoke a wooden box. Highly advise you to be smart and stay Faw as you can away from me because I am not bringing the smoke I'm bringing flames three five. Still. Z's gave him like a grownup response like a real man response to a teenage. Young Guy. tweets something in Oh we like the patronizing term and. Does. The right thing to do you treat them like your sons man. Nelson is thirty two. Better Long. I'm pulling up. To is on twenty, twenty, two, Twenty Free Damn. So does top rank. Do It do they look at it like look we gotta get our thirty two Eurofighter a fight. And we also are given our younger guy a dude. Nine years older than him so we're building. We. That they would do it but I figured small to do it tools the end of next year like which is like if you think about it, it's just a year to wait you know develop your younger stock because stock they invested in more than Nelson. That's hundred percent show is the guy who has longevity with the. At and he's is doing things like spectacular things, right Is being like the third or fourth from yet Mike. Berlanga he just is is quick. So that's like interesting to them and us together to succeed for a bit longer so they need to take that time. Yours to bed longer. That I've seen that word Prey I've seen. Many. Don't have too many channel. Is. Lanka's is definitely the long-term stock to invest in definitely definitely. Well, pointed. Out So he's going to be like Yo. I didn't count them out I said that he is the longest doctor. This time by the time is obviously you know. He's young man's thirty to thirty Tuesday November twenty two. says. In the heavyweight division that I don't know if that's. One eight. Yeah. What's your age in that weight visit? You're considered you know regardless of my may you think you feel and that's not saying that Nelson doesn't feel that he twenty three filming he sure was moving like a you know now. Stoppages y'all he got flown. He knew. He got eighty two percent knockout ratio. And You know that that'd that'd be imagine seeing that on the stats you know Berlanga, Nelson Ohio, Ko, ratios, who's going to Battle, the K. Oers, and all that other good stuff I see something good happening here they. Do that. They do need to do this like in New York like Puerto? Rican. Day Purvey Oman car they could go crazy like even on undercut to offer call across a fight in New York Joe where's Puerto Rican? Jones an exciting right row that should be as new day should have been asked him that last time we reviewed. That should be his day brown top. The ranks should be taken taking. You know member of that we got to set up a date for. A parade issue the Puerto Rican Day parade is in Saturday is held in the second Saturday of June. So I mean even if the parade humanity. It's just important. Today you know Cannella has canal has secret admirer, Puerto Rico got. No Eggert belong is like a fat Joe you know Joe in love with him. So you know as perfect for the Puerto Rican. Day Purvey I'm. Fudgy ESOTERICA. If. But he unlovable longer, they'd be doing. All the time and he's walked out. You know. New Stuck does what I'm saying. But but long game nobody knows. Nobody. Like like like Nelson. So that's why I. Like being in a way to bit they matured maybe it'd be too soon but like you know. I change. Be Good. Could be good. Actually I'm just give him another year and give it give insult journeyman that I. Think. About this, if they will do hair and Frampton this year. They trying to do this year as different as. Champions does not make something the building right so Happen even before Ovid, right so. San If you're willing to put up those two 'cause Frampton. Frampton wins the franchise's lives on, and if Djamil wins the franchise, Jamal Wins, the franchise lives on those two years. Above recognizable name. So it's like a Frampton, wins now he's got to fight should call. That's just how they going to do is going to be that simple. Okay. You one you want to keep that legacy going. You gotta Fi Sikora now. is going to be free. Free Times. Going forward from and free. Mansions, it looks like Jamal has gotten way more accurate under the Matt. He's got not downs. It was just like you. Guys like US doing well no I'm not saying he wasn't I said he's gotten way more accurate since getting in that camp and he's gotten way more knock down. So you know I don't know if France is going. To move up to. Jamal. I start. For Cleaner Fi, you're going to see more surgical work. You know what I mean between both fighters like I said, Kendall just made them look a little bad because he was he know smothering him and stuff, but I still get excited for that fight. You know now I think Jamal Beats Fan I mean but also thought McCleary was gonNA be Frampton, based off you've length and height and he beat the brakes off McCleary. From Tony's good man like but I don't know that's why it's going to be interesting right I. mean he used? To win. But. He's supposed to lose. Who Fronted? Yeah. He's the old Guy Bro. He's the old I wanNA say. That is but. The. Only early I thought it was at least thirty three I mean that's still considerably. I in division you don't usually go too far like you know in you know in a dry but let let's see I. Cheer You Right. You study free. Figured? He was thirty three I mean thirty three I mean when you take school days, it ain't over the fire. You know what I'm saying he young got a roundup as close to defy got around up. So he's still young he considered young anyway but. Moving on to what do we got next looking like. Junior fire. Junior fire does an interview with Scott Sports, where he says, yes, the bicep injury I don't know the extent of the damage, but he did hurted yeah, there was a bicep injury. So. Yeah. I mean look man. So at this point was android answering that fight. Now he was in camp with junior was in camp with Aldo of war. For the sheriff fights and he's saying that like in the week close to the fight in the lead up to the fight with sheree. It was inspired we and. Why the Hudson by during one of those sessions. So second fire for the second a second fight, the one, eight loss So the chant was fighting basically one our. Government whether you say at least like you had like so. Orienteer-. That's that's not the first. I'm hearing of that bicep injury. It wasn't that BICEP injury already existing for the autism fight so I guess the troubling injury, right? I mean. It's no easy to recover from those injuries. So it's probably rights. Is. It's an injury. Does stops him from going ahead with their obviously not is injured stops him from his right hand obviously but at Decem time. Has To play on your mind when you never hundred beside them fighters, we'll tell you all the time way they never one hundred percent are- but other other sometime they always lied to you in pre fight interviews say, how was like twenty? The best ever I'm in the best shape of my life does where you always hear, right. So yeah, you're always going to hear that. You know and our guys guy guys got money invested in you you know nobody wants to invest in a broken toy. Broke. His. Executive and this is it just as just like that man you know the? Fighters Height so much man. Province doesn't surprise me that doesn't surprise me that it was injured and the key to the statement is like I don't know the extent of the damage, right? So it s what it is. Right. You know you always going to have like Hudson neagle's in camp Especially, if you had like a pre existing condition, is it enough to stop your going ahead with the fight? Obviously not is it enough to stop you know to change the outcome of the fight sometime is sometimes it's not will never gonNA know. Always. The premise of coming out with this. I don't. Time. What is it telling me? They probably asked them because remember he's in negotiations with Joseph Parker that fight should be on sky? Because of the matchroom connection to Parka, but it's GonNa. Take place in New Zealand. Those dudes were supposed to be basically announcing fi just arguing over gloves at this point. But I think that it doesn't even matter I think that. Had, this been the only thing that came out since February it would have hit harder. But right now this is like. I mean. This is like nothing just like we is just another another thing that we read that you know it's like it doesn't have the same is all I'm saying man. And also. If it's a if it's an injury that stays right to it had that injury for the oldest. Again, if on the the no couch for for the OT's fight. It trend again a push themselves who get the fight with fury we've that injury. But now if that injury keeps coming back. Do you have to think about taking the third fights now delayed, ensuring that you know you fully recovering. What would you ever fully recover from those type of injury and as you know, that's the question. He knows that and only he meant his medical team knows and they would vice him. You know what does as good as it's going to get and you need to go through it again because. He Never GonNa find out you know so I don't know. He's GonNa have to obviously a make a huge decision man because if he passes I, mean we spoken about him passing on or holding off and maybe clearing up a little bit more time to make the healing process just a little more solid but. Anything. Right. He would have to guarantee you know a lot of things with would have to be guaranteed for him to even consider stepping aside sometimes you know fighters are kind of forced into a possessor they gotta Strana say. Whatever injury was there I guess at this point this is the long layoff. He's had in a while. So you know he's probably Hild up. He's you know. I. Don't know how old are. That latest video is but he was shooting some pretty heavy artillery. So you know you can't have a BICEP injury with that. He's Pretty Hill at this point. Those muscle injuries that you don't. We don't know what it is. Obviously muscle tell I don't know. I. Like those kind of injuries I they can come back to the. Especially when you just do repeated exercise, that's the problem because you must muscle fibers breaks off and then rebuilds. So that's the problem should keep going Freud's in an eight to ten week camp thus when you're going to to see those injury reoccur right so. That that's the problem. Well that's what I'm saying he edified November February turn around. And I think before that when he four Brazil wasn't like Brazil like August because or or or? But I don't feel like we're GONNA. The point is I. Think this is the longest he's been out. In a minute straight. So hopefully, he's arrived but what else is owned docket Oh yes. Josh Taylor deciding. That Josh Taylor unwilling to wait for Jose Ramirez Defend Against Mandatory Jack Cottrell. The fight goes on as planned without undisputed on the line. I have no clue where Mario I hate when Mario puts these little weird as questions and then doesn't fucking show up. but I I'm assuming that he found somewhere or Josh says if Ramirez fights is mandatory he's not waiting which doesn't make sense since Josh is fighting his mandatory. No idea like so when you said you were gonNA. Talk about. Josh State. Not Fighting Ramirez was waiting for the topic as okay. Let let's see what that is all about. You know I, don't know how the courts anything like I haven't heard of anything related. Say. He's willing to wait for her say Ramirez to Defend Against Mandatory Jack Catterall man it has hosted with when what else do the division does to go forward beds. What is that better to do you know? Not Is. He is. He is. He GonNa move up you know. Separate. Should the fight go on as planned without undisputed title? What do you me undisputed online? Tax them seek to the lease and saying, give us the context of. Met. With that. Undisputed on the Lai wet visit undisputed. Title Title AMIES. Versus like Taylor would be all the bottles. Why would he put like now on the line I don't know maybe wants them to fight in called book like that. Just for women no problem forever what else strengthen on a? Exactly. Said a skip the yellow we got we got. A little bit? Sunday fight. CBO PVC. The can this I could get used to this little. Sunday low. Sunday fight in say. As long I think. Going up against football and stuff like that. Damn. Yeah. Everything happens on. Sunday I. Forget. But I mean, we got enough are cores. Enjoy Low Sunday boxing. how's it? How's the the UNDERCARD GONNA look for that I? Know they got they probably fighting already. We need to see that on the car. Bro Has Su surrounded on a I think I've been trained in the chat is clarifying the situation he's saying like you know. If, Ramirez. Doesn't fight mandatory is going to drop the WBO barracked right so added. I and then they you know. Reo As. I get it. Now, I don't want that I wanNA find Flynn disputing nothing, but that's okay. Then just wait and let Ramirez Ramirez Be Jack That's all. And then you. But it sounds like Josh doesn't WanNa wait. That's Mario Aspect of. Man I mean always this. Is the he says. The over decision unify unification takes precedence over mandatory anyways. But we know that's not true because we seen wilder in Asia and have a unification because the WPA stepped in but he says he josh money. Again. They got it the as long as they get at party they don't mind. Does what I'm saying they just talking like that scaring you off, and then we just come to the table excuse Wbz what they want to no problem they'll get they'll get undisputed. I. Wish she was on because again he saying joss teller unwilling to wait for the Jose Ramirez. To defend but Next up. Is that. Is it right? Because we got all you gotTa do the The you guys I'm trying to turn reminds on it. Did it start your? Zest. Starting at the. Eight thus demand event straightway. Because I thought the telecast starting now. Right. But I, don't know if they just go straight in with the main event. Or we're. GonNa have to wait until November two hours or something. Adults you know I doubt those who gets at eight o'clock straighten. Thought that too I don't know if I. saw on the chat I think casual casual Bass Guy was watching a Heidi Andro I think. Is there a girl fighting right now? Is it on regular fox? I'm checking skip I gotta turn around the probably the Fox sports, right Probably. which is I have no idea what number but. I got. Fox. Regular Fox. Yeah I got Fox five. They got the fight on. Got Brian. Kenny on right now someone Brian Kennedy. You got a black guy was going on Yeah. Well, SOPA. Brian. Kenny. Kenny. Sparring. You? That it looked like he he had bruises on his face Remember that custard even said he's spars Barry while right now. But he said it has like a a contract right the as contract where. Paul. When he's doing telecast and stuff like that. They've put thanks home stipulation in there I mean Brian Kenny Big Tom Man. He had the. Better contract you gotTa, you gotTa get closer to the screen want see things with. His right side like. Then they say we're almost in right now my whole is restarting Brahms so mad. Restore. Is. Your TV. Do me. It's got like a black guy. I thought I thought he was like morphing in front of me. I was like Whoa. This is. Not just hope I'd lineups Caserta for mayor, Kenney good, Dude Shit man by. Lying he got beat up or something, but Nah maybe it's just my TV. I'll be broncos of the Muslim. But about Bruno. Mars. Though. y'All look Hazel. Tab He got the he got the allies rogue on go. You're my man face. All right now still junior you always Lake Lennox Lennox Lewis. Joe Goossens on the on the telecast I've seen them like us to free time to see that. I HAVE That's now Charlotte's not to the reporter with the flashy masks. You see that everybody got their own little style. You know it's crazy how? The mask has become a fashion. It's like everybody's dipped up some type of crazy mask or it this businesses mass businesses come out. This is crazy. I was in the walgreens today Bro I. You know normally Nagahama Hat, my glasses, all you know my sunglasses or whatever. But when I, when you put on that mask, I feel like I'm GonNa stick up the place bro I'm in their bro looking crazy. I got my maskell with the glasses and the hat like who am I like Spike Lee Shit Bank bankrobber chat. Well and I'm just walking around I'm like, yeah, this is free. They are everybody's messed up and. You Forget. I was in the bank. There was this kid that he ended up Subscribing to Michelle out to him man for guys you to panda was along as handlebar. Say You got to one to subscribe would rather beg. To patron come on. Boxing bars man and I and I was I walked into the bank. Maybe it was like thirty people abro every bank I went to banks trying to see if maybe the next bank is no bro, this stuff has ruined. The order of operations here I go. You GotTa wait longer. Now two things it's just a pain in the ass you walk into the store your bank and it's like, oh, my mask gotta go back to the car go back to the car. Places here with they. Let you be the Muskrat like I've seen a lot of places they just like, yeah, and then they're looking. Just accepted. Now then you always got somebody looking at you like you're like, Oh, the walking dead or sound like. Look he doesn't have a mass. I was at the laundry picking up some laundry and again I forgot my mask I'm sorry. I'm in a rush hour the laundry and fricken old man is grilling me pro. I. Mean Mean Mugging Me String Clint Eastwood Style and I and I felt like when you when you feel when somebody gives you that energy you know what I'm saying even feel like when you're a sparring saying you know when somebody's GonNa? Be shitting. Me Mugging you sound like what is Oh. Man Thick he is he he tougher than me? So I'm like I looked at him and I and I kinda grill grill I raised my eyebrows at him a little bit. And then I walked in the navy and then the little little lady was looking at yard and I'm like she was like. Oh. So I'm walking back out of the launch man tell you that's what you were looking at me like that and then he's you know he just started smiling shit i. felt like a dumb, ass. I got I. got mean mugged. I got to meet muggy competition with an old man over a massive. Chucky. Sorry. Chalky Bro. Chunky chucky. Fighting mostly in May he but you know don't mess with. Garcia L. Chunky oh that's puppets cousin. Don't mess with Chucky road. 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FROM THE RADIO VAULT: The Vault of Midnight Podcast (September 28, 2011)

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God form. Are we get asked this question a lot? It was actually a weird chain of events that brought us together. The drummer's actually, my younger brother, and he had a drum set set up at my parents house, and a FedEx delivery guy was delivering a package to the house and asked him if he wanted to jam. So they started jamming me and my brother had been playing for walnut that serious. Also play the guitar too. And so, you know that we start playing they asked me to come over and try to sing, so saying for a little bit. And the guitar player was the like will were putting together. So we put out some Craigslist ads for a guitar player in a bass player. And so we got a bass player doesn't Phillips. So as soon as he came into the picture we knew he was kind of here to stay and Patrick Donovan was another guy who were replied to the Craigslist Email, and his again the first day. Showed up played with us and he was ready to go. He went out and bought a peer the next day, and it's the rest is history. Now how long have you guys been the other? You're say three months that probably about that. Now, I, I, I've just got to ask, because when yours number one superfan who's listening right now a sandy Simpson which we load soon. Eight. Go to use any of your listening in since you're the toy, call got number one super van, I, I have to ask, when she contacted me on the ball of midnights a Vanuatu call fan page wall. She suggested you guys. And I thought your name was pretty interesting till I call God, I have to ask, what's the meaning behind the name toy called God? She ate you like men us organized religion. Speed christianity. Mood is Hinduism, whatever, whatever beliefs you subscribe to. These organized religion to control the moral spots, and behavior of other men. And so we kind of have an issue with that they use their plays called gut to rule ear them. It kind of pisses us up. That definitely makes sense. And he's gonna upfront say, I personally believe that religion has no place in music, personally with me, because I think that it's a brain wash organization and offense anybody out there that actually is religious vessel, you guys. But I just think that it's a big interference and it's like guys say, toy all God that, that's what it's all about. Now in terms of musical influences, what are some of your personal music influences in what are the band's musical influences? Probably. I probably Britney Spears Justin Bieber. No man keeping real, we, we listen to all kinds of me zig. Man, I think we all kind of come from different backgrounds in life. You know, some of us listen to hip hop. Others, listen to kind of techno stuff, some progressive alternative stuff. But I think most of us really liked that kind of harder harder music, Pantelleria slayer megadeath all them real classic bands. I think really are at the core of, you know who we are as musicians. And I think it comes down a lot in the way we play. So, you know, I can't really every type of music that's out there. You know there's some music that we don't really agree with out there. That's why we play what we do. But, you know, it we all got tons of music. And we listen to all kinds of music man. I, I think we all just really appreciate a music for what it is. That's a pretty good philosophy to have. I agree with. And I will say you mentioned earlier, I remember the first time I heard you guys. It's like I said earlier in the introduction, I feel that you guys are definitely pan. Tear mixed in with light zombie because he had that groove metal edge to you. We you know, be a bass guitar rhythm drums, vocalise. You sound just like Phil Anselmo from Penn Tara. All all to gut compliment, man. But we really tried to bring our own style. Be the tar them's or a different kind of base things that we add in there. So we try to we try to keep it current. But still stay true. The we are as musicians and play what we'd be like to play. We're not trying to follow in anybody's footsteps. We're kind of trying to create our own our own little place in the world. Agreed now every artist has room personal view on the record industry in censorship is censorship, something, you personally feel should be rid of. Or what are your personal thoughts on the subject? Well, I have to say, censorship, Mata big expand censorship, I meant if you have something to say, especially as an artist you should say it too many too often nowadays. Everybody wants to watch it. They say watch their he's the politically correct. But my -pinion being politically. Correct is a lot more offensive than just saying, what's on your mind, or or just being on it. So if you know, censorship is kind of one of those things where for the greater good quotes, it's for the better. But in all reality, it's probably more of a hindrance than anything that's doing any good. I grew. Thank you to the fucking PM or see for that. That's right now judge bar name, and what we right in earlier. It's not out there to be any kind of censor banned. We just put it out there and play. But we would like to hear so fuck it in terms Huck censorship. That's right now, I'm gonna ask you the last question before we get into our first break here whenever band comes out nowadays. They're always labeled the John raw like folk Tupperware bowl are John labels really necessary in your opinion. Or are they really wasted time? It's a list of time. The name of the game is to make music around trying to be the most hor cool, shredding machine. I just wanna play music in reference next, to that's it. I don't care your speed death. Fusion with a twist. You're still displaying is so good. He is in good. Man that I will totally agree with, and let's head to break now, I think we're going to start things off with the mood by our guest, the toy called Dodd. And we will be right back right after this. What? Really? Tool that. What? That will. Thirty. That's couple. All. Every. Two. And that was anger slush bargaining from the band champion. This is going to you guys and we returned to I Don podcasts. I am charges. Tommy. And I am joy. But the guys toy called God. Welcome back. Just drinking heavily real my pine vamp for the night. Trivia, Capri Suns over in this motherfucker fan. Fires flood tonight is my eleven eight so cheers. Gonna ask you guys with the modern day music industry. It seems like a lot of Bantu actually play instruments are committed user are growing weary, and slowly turning to auto tune and computers, replace actual musicians. Is this something that you guys worry about? And if so, what are your thoughts about it? Worried in the slightest because of the end of the day, there's no computer on earth, the combined stream leg. I. Added that. Like saying it takes. It takes all kinds of different kinda musics and different kind of people, you know, to, to make a complete. Music rural if you want to, you know, so I listened to a lot of things like nine inch nails and, you know, they, they use a lot of computer stuff, you know, and I really dig them I think that however, somebody wants to express their, their music. They got inside of them. Then go ahead man. If it sounds get listen to. But if it sounds like crap, you know, you won't find it my CD player. Now for the fans of toy called God listening out there right now. You guys are competing in the best by using us competition to win spy, uproar festival. If I'm not mistaken house competition. What's that? I was saying fans of toy call out there. That's listening right now. You are competing in the best buy music, years competition to win a spot at the festival, not staking. House comes go. Ten in the voting. The people from hitting our page on some of our activities are open that figures with our music, and hopefully will be for both the sevenfold on the fourteenth. Everybody listening out there. Please hit best music years, Facebook wall, and tag Choi goal and talk to the toy called God in your posts. And tell them that this is definitely the band that they want. Now, if you could work with any real artists than sparked you who would it be? For me. This is Patrick. I have to say after be like. Does it have to be living personal? It can be either living dead. Tim. Reston piece. That's what I want to be anybody. How about the rest of the band? He actually stole my answer. Killer, what he did a pleasure to be an evangelist and Chambliss and, you know, kick back in drink a couple beers with wouldn't be too bad. Now aside from toy call. What are some people in your personal life that you would say inspire you day-to-day to live lecture fullest? Live. My life to the fullest. The guys in the band, these inspiring whether this perky raggedy body wanna get up wreck. Donald broher painted as asks. Other than my nephew. That guys I agus my you know, my sweetie lumber. Now, I really should've asked this earlier. But the guy father's heavy metal black savage have been said to be the innovators of heavy metal as it is has lack Sabbath in your mind and impact on your Qatar plant and music Toyko got. Freaking Lindley, one of the first Ruth ever played like paranoid. And then the next one was working, so absolutely. I will say, I heard songs off the original first album, what I've never listened to the innocent tire. I to the popular songs you know, Armand sweetly the first, you know, the title checks, on black Sabbath, and I've, I've never listened to the whole albums tire in its entirety until a few weeks ago when I downloaded it off, I Tim, of course, and I will say that L still has the Irie creeping five that did that nineteen. Seventy one was released Friday. The thirteenth it's still as personal. Fine on of the records that so many other artists spans some careers flex is just like the holy grail of metal, especially since they're Qatar player Tonio me he had. He was originally. Right hand guitar player. And when he was working in that metal she factory forgets he had to his fingers chopped off. And they told him that he would never be able to play guitar again. That was at his music, career is over until he figured out a way to make prosthetic fingers. And he had forces way to play left handed de tune the guitar strings, and he basically came up with zone prosthesis and look what did for it gave him a whole new way of playing for behead person. Worshiping canoe for you. That kids. You still to the devil. We can do. I will snow present you rumors going around that original savage is gonna be getting together again. These are just rumors for everybody listening, the rumors, but that racial Sav is going to get together and they're gonna be having a brand new album in a brand new tour. What did I thought about that? If if do come out to be true. I would love to hear the records in slowly original Sabbath on a tour with guts on say, like ten or twelve fifteen years ago. Something like that. So I'm good on seeing them. But the record. My mind that would be something really amazing that here. If you ritual, black savage doing something after forty let's see forty three forty four years later. Dudes are still playing a testament to their Middlemiss cafe yet, especially Tony, I'll me, I would say. Dude is definitely fucking immoral. Now. Now, Damer hersal for toyed called God. Are there any backstage pranks go on, or any good luck rituals that you guys do before hitting the sage? Other than just all talk, and that's about it. We're talking smack amongst each other as far as pre game rituals. There's one in the. Cheeseburger catch guitarist and other than that. That's. Hooker Bill jobs. The drummer. They have to be midget bloopers. There you go. In your music career is there a particular band, you definitely would love to open up for if you cut. Let's say it's band that maybe broke up do years ago, or even twenty thirty years ago if they if they came back, and you had an opportune to open up for him will been would it be? To be slayer awesome opening for slayer. About you. Oh to go with like. Been around for a second. Probably, you know pave Tara damage plan, suicidal tendencies, I could go on for days. Oh man. Yes, can talk about this. Are there any plans in the future for a toy co gut album? Lutely as far as production. Now, we've got, you know, pretty much are sewing. Listen, let's chopped to the way we want. We're slowly piecing together all the pre election stuff that we need to do for that. And we're locking than Mr.. How much of a timeframe before you get that all gone? From start actual recording by. January and then we have the record complete I say late summer. Our next year. Not bad now, any ideas of a possible album, title or talk about that. Discussed the Pinal yet right now. It's just gonna be called. I'll one. Tyco God volume one. The black. It's been taken before we might use to call. Tell Reverend is like now are there any goals except for yourself to achieve while employees called? What was the question? I'm sorry are any goals. They have set for yourself to achieve Ouallam toy called. Of Everett metal head I can find. Benz. Michael, I want to see heads. Bob next Masha in front of me where ever for the rest of my life. It's just like quiet riot, always says, bang your head wake up the dead. When you when I say when because I know it's coming when you guys go on a full length tour are there, any particular cities or states you guys wanna hit. We definitely hit like Pittsburgh, Detroit, Chicago, Seattle. Austin, New York, LA's San the oh, we'll go everywhere that well, I think we're actually going to go into our second break now, and we are going to wrap up this interview. Let's start things off here in our segment to break with some bet the devil, and deceiver from the devil. And we will we will be right back right after this. Chapel. One. Simple. All right. Welcome back to the last segment here on the podcast that was only one man is by toy called God. This was going to you sandy, and I am joined that by the ban themselves. Well, we're going to be wrapping up the show here. Two more questions for you guys. And then I'm going to be letting you go on your fucking crush brutalize and pick some more. Now, when it comes to writing, what inspiration, do you get or inspired to put into your lyrics? Like I'm seeing for. It's all stuff that we have in experienced in life. So I write a lot about. Any kind of more negative experiences kinda helps me to get over those negative experiences, whether it be, you know, dishes things are fighting people or whatever. But a lot of the songs that we have Patrick Artie, came to the table with, and, you know, I'm sure he has his own answer for what he wrote why you wrote. Let's pretty it's, it's, it's just. Everything that we do everything that we say everything we play is we've lived and. Expression of us dealing with issues of moving forward. They'll finally is there anything you guys would like to tell the listeners here of one point nine five FM before we end the show. Listen, Keith listing requests. Political. One point nine FOX them love show, the vote of Midland. Our, our page checkout, clinical, and don't forget to vote for about that. And welcome guys. Well, this is torture. Tommy, Jim for podcast, reminding all you listeners, Goto, W, W, W dot Balsam midnight pot. Amac dot com. Hit up on the Twitter. 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Protecting American elections from foreign interference

The Brookings Cafeteria

23:20 min | 1 year ago

Protecting American elections from foreign interference

"Welcome to the Brookings Cafeteria the podcast about ideas the experts who have them. I'm fred dues in June F._B._I.. Director Christopher Wray testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee that the Russians are absolutely intent on trying to interfere with our elections and just recently the Senate Intelligence Committee issued a bipartisan report. Finding governments at all levels are unprepared to combat a Russian attack on U._S.. Election Infrastructure meanwhile Senate majority leader Mitch Mcconnell L. has refused to allow a vote on a House passed bill on election security calling such efforts partisan and pointing to the steps the trump administration has already taken to bolster election security thirty to discuss these issues join today in the Brookings podcast studio by Darrell West the vice president and Director of Governance Studies and founding director of the Center for Technology Innovation Ovation here at Brookings. His program is heading up a series that examines the threats to our elections from cyberspace foreign interference disinformation campaigns and more you can follow the brookings podcasts at work on twitter at policy podcasts to get information about and links to all of our shows including dollar and cents the Brookings Trade podcast the current and our events podcast. If you like the show please go to apple podcasts and leave us a review it helps others find it and now on with the interview Daryl welcome back to the Brookings Cafeteria Syria. Thank you fred. It's nice to be with you. It's nice to have you back in the studio so we're talking about elections security. I what do you make of senator. McConnell's refusal to bring elections security bills is to the Senate that were passed by the democratic controlled House claiming that Democrats are trying to give themselves a political benefit. I mean it is mystifying to me why the Senate has not acted on this because there is a clear threat especially from Russia but possibly from other countries as well we know the Russians engaged in a lot of disinformation in our two thousand sixteen eighteen presidential campaign. They did the same thing in the two thousand eighteen congressional races this year they've intervened in a number of European contests and so there's no doubt that as as we head into twenty twenty that the threat is very real and when you look at the measures that were passed by the house these are not really contentious partisan artisan initiatives so for example they just WanNa provide additional funding to the states so the states can be felt their election infrastructure. That's not very controversial or so they want to provide technical expertise to the states so that they have better access to information on how to counter disinformation and hacking there is is a provision asking states to develop a paper backup of their electronic machines so if there is any controversy we can go back and actually see what actually happened and there's a provision to add sanctions to foreign governments or foreign agents that interfere in our elections. These bills have a bipartisan mm sponsor so it really does not make any sense for the Senate not to act on this and it's important that they take this issue seriously well one claim that senator McConnell another's have made is that since elections are administered by state and local governments. The federal government shouldn't have a role in these bills give too much of a role to the federal government. What do you make of that argument? I mean the Senate. Majority leader is correct that under our system states and localities administer American elections and they set up the voting machines the precincts and actually run the elections but it's not true that the federal government plays no role historically the federal government government has provided funding to the states to upgrade their equipment. They provided technical expertise to the states because most states don't have a lot of cybersecurity expertise. It's a relatively new topic and a new kind of threat that has come up and this is exactly the area where the federal government can be very helpful to the state so I don't. I don't think the states rights argument really is a good justification for the Senate not to act on this issue and it strikes me that we're talking in many ways about a national level election when talking about the election of the president senators are elected to serve in the national federal government and so on absolutely I mean there is a national stake in having elections is that have strong integrity that people respect the outcome there no questions about the legitimacy of what happened in that race and especially now just given all of our contentiousness. It's really important to get the election process right. I mentioned in my introduction that your program governance studies is heading up a series called cybersecurity the an election interference. Can you talk about what that series is all about. We launched a series because of the major worries about the risk of election interference in the a twenty twenty race so we know that there are major problems here. There are many social divisions in the United States based on race gender geography geography lifestyle in a lot of other dimensions and the Russians already have demonstrated capability to use information to try and exploit eight those differences and pit whites against African Americans and other sorts of things. I'm worried given our national contentiousness. Whether if there is interference interference in this election will people view the outcome as fair because it any democratic system. It's really important that the It's possible today. The biggest difference is that they are cheaper faster and easier to hide. Can you comment on that idea. Elaine is a hundred percent accurate in that comment Eh. It's certainly the case that dirty tricks in elections are nothing new you can go back decades and centuries and find many examples of this but but Elaine is correct in noting that in a digital world it is cheaper faster and easier to undertake a lot of these types of efforts and so what I like about her apiece. I definitely recommend it to your listeners is one she put some of our current problems in historic context which I think with technology it's important because a lot of people think think digital technology is new and so therefore all the problems associated are new and we'd never dealt with this before and that's not the case the digital world does create some new stresses and in some new risks and so we need to be cognizant of how dirty tricks may play out differently in a digital world enter take steps to address them in earpiece you talk about what you call. The new disinformation risks as we approach twenty twenty. What are some of those new risks well? There's so many new technologies that can be used for good purposes but also could be put to nefarious purposes as well and so we have to be careful in looking at some of these technologies like fake videos the misuse of social media to spread disinformation or outright falsehoods. I think particularly in the twenty twenty election where we have a lot of female candidates and minority candidates it's possible to Dr Images and or videos to make it look like someone has done something really bad to put them in a compromising position or to make it look like they should not be taken seriously as a presidential candidate so I think given the growing diversity of America Burqa and the fact that some of these tools can be used for really nefarious purposes we have to worry about how technology could end up distorting the twenty twenty election while I'm going Ebola but more deeply into some of the ways in which this disinformation can influence the outcome of an election so for example can votes that I go and cast at my local. Polling station cannot be changed remotely. There are ways in which outside actors could change the voting voting process as well as the voting outcome so for example you mentioned the Senate Intelligence Committee report that just came out quite recently they found that the Russians had actually penetrated the voter databases in all fifty of the U._s. states and what that means and the reason that is important is like when you show up at the ballot box and you WanNa cashier vote the first thing the registrar does is to check to see if your name is on the list and so they can go into the databases they they could change your name. They can take your name out of the database. They could change your address and basically make it difficult for you to actually cast your ballot so that is certainly a very threatening in terms of changing actual votes. That's a little more challenging because most states actually keep their voting equipment off the Internet for security reasons reasons. They don't want someone to be able to directly in real time affect the results but still after the votes are tabulated they are electronically sent to the board of elections in each of the fifty states so there's a potential for mischief there in the sense of taking down networks hacking into those results so there are there's several different ways that people with bad intentions could disrupt our elections. I WANNA follow up on that and again back to the example of I casting a ballot polling station then somehow my registration data got messed up and then. They said that we can't find you. You're not a registered voter. I think I would have the wherewithal me personally to do what I needed to do to get an an affidavit. Whatever procedure I could use on the spot to validate who I am and to be able to cast at least a provisional ballot but it seems to me that a lot of voters in America would not be able to do that. They wouldn't know they could do that. They may only have one hour to take off from their job to do that and that was the only chance they had in the leave in so instead of of changing a vote it's disruptive as you said the voting process that could be one of the intents of this militias intervention in our elections right. That is absolutely correct. The goal is really just to mess up the process. Slow the process down so many states as you point out do have a way for people to cast a provisional ballot if for example their name is an in the voter database but they argue you know it actually is and they're voting at the right address but think about if that that started to happen in large numbers how would slow down the process how it would lengthen the lines. A number states already have cut back the number of polling places within their states dates so in past elections. We've seen people having to wait one two or three hours or more in order to vote. If they're these types of disruptions those delays could turn into two four or six hour delays and of course a lot of people are not gonNA WANNA stand in line that law they're not gonNa vote so even just by disrupting the process and or slowing down the act of voting that could cause enormous problems for our election. One of the other issues that comes up in this series of papers is political polarization. Can you talk about how does political polarization influence the effectiveness of digital information that is without such severe polarization between between political parties between ideologies in America. Would this information be as effective. The problem in the digital world in a polarized digital world is disinformation and becomes more believable win. People are sharply divided from one another like one of the hallmarks of our era and I wrote A.. Book about this entitled Divided Politics is people are divided on all sorts of different dimensions by party by ideology by geography by educational levels by income and in by a lifestyle and in today's world people increasingly define opponents as enemies we question each other's motives like if view support president trump and I do not support him. It's easy for me to think poorly of you and to cast aspersions on your character your intelligence and everything else so it a polarized world when social media starts to spread fake information about one of the opponent's it may be more likely in easier easier for me to believe that false information because it might confirm what I already think about that individual and so the combination of the polarization and the ease he's of information dissemination in a digital world that makes for a very toxic combination so it's not that this is the first time we've been at risk of disinformation information but in a polarize world disinformation becomes even more problematic an upcoming guest on this show who's going to talk about a similar issue. Deep fake videos has has also drawn out this issue of coca polarization in reference to fake videos and you reference it to in your piece for the cyber security election interference series. Can you extend a little bit more into this issue deep. They videos what they're all about. In some of the things that you're most worried about I mean t- fake videos are highly problematic right now because you can do this either with images and pictures or videos themselves you can actually Dr the image to put put somebody next to somebody who is toxic or deeply unpopular and then engage in guilt by association by saying you know this candidate hangs out with this really bad person. Listen so therefore we should think negatively about them. You could put somebody in a compromising position again. Through a photo or through a video you can dr images in ways that would cast doubts on the character of particular individuals you know we saw recent example with Speaker Pelosi where someone one basically slowed down the video to make her look old bumbling and out of touch and so you know this is the type of thing that when images a. and videos are doctored in that way and then spread very quickly over social media people may reach negative conclusions about somebody just based on that video you even if the video is completely false so we're talking about ways to bolster the integrity of America's electoral system to protect people's right to vote to to protect the voting process itself we hear time and again president trump and others claiming quote serious voter fraud that took place he claims in California with as he claims a million illegal votes casts other Republican officials like Mitch McConnell discount the threat from foreign entities to our electoral system despite what that Senate committee has said despite what our intelligence community has said they point to fraud in voter registration and voting. How did he respond to that focus. I mean in general cyber. Security should not be a partisan issue. This is not an issue where Republicans and Democrats should be fighting because both have the same stake in winning an election process that is fair open and transparent and that people widely accept the legitimacy both of the process and the outcome Tom and if we reach a point where Republicans and Democrats are reaching different conclusions on that that is very risky from the standpoint of democracy in general so I think the question of voter fraud and fraud and voter registration there been academic organizations that have looked at this. They're nonprofit organizations that have studied it in in detail they have never documented examples of widespread fraud or fraud that actually influenced the way an election turned out you know there have been cases of individual fraud kind of auto one basis small groups of people and so on but in an electorate a national electorate of well over one hundred million voters like there's no evidence as trump claimed that you know a million people voted illegally in California so there's just no empirical evidence that supports that claim. Let's move onto solutions as we wrap up the conversation you with. Raj Gambhir have peace in the series at talks about specific solutions you mentioned and some of the specific policy measures that the House and Senate bills also have an also you might mention. Margaret Taylor has some analysis from what some European countries have done in response to Russian interference in their electoral process. Can you walk us through some of the solutions and some of the lessons we might learn from abroad. I mean there are things that governments can do that. People can do to protect themselves and that the news media should do to make sure we have a fair and open election so on the government front again. These are reforms that come from bipartisan legislation. It's already passed the house. There's not been a vote scheduled in the Senate on on these things but it's basically about providing more money for states and localities so they can upgrade their equipment so we can make sure that we protect our our election infrastructure said that we have the proper cyber security protections so the Russians the Chinese North Koreans Iranians the Saudis or other people cannot aww hack into our system and disrupt the election so those are all things where the government can provide funding they can provide technical expertise they can help states and localities deal with the cyber security risks that are very serious but it's not just a problem of government like in the digital world. There's a lot of disinformation. Information that's being spread through social media and so we need digital literacy campaigns so that people themselves learn what they can do to spot disinformation how they can help others avoid disinformation. I mean it's a challenge in the digital world. You Know You're surfing the Internet you're looking variety of sites. It's hard to know which piece of information comes from which side and how useful or valuable that site is you know are they promoting good fact based information or they promulgating falsehoods in so people need to become more sophisticated just in terms of how they excess digital information Asian how they evaluate it how to spot fake sites from real sites so this is something that schools need to do a better job. Nonprofit organizations stations needed help advocacy organizations like we all play a role in kind of helping our fellow Americans figure out how to do a better job and then the last piece is really really the role of the news media because what has happened in past elections is there's been disinformation circulated it goes viral on social media and then traditional news organizations have picked up on it and really amplified that message and so journalists have to be very careful in what they report on because if they're reporting on fake news false information disinformation or just doctored images or videos they're giving credence to all of that information Asian even though the information is factually inaccurate so journalists I think play a very important role in helping us figure out what is more useful information what is less useful. We'll what seems to be coming from a legitimate site versus information that comes from French side or marginal side or a site. That's playing in outright right falsehoods so we all have to work to address this problem so government plays a role. The average person plays a role and journalists play a very important role here as well so so what can we learn from some of the examples of successful campaigns to combat foreign election interference in the case of Sweden or in France what other countries are doing is is just being very vigilant and making sure that win. Fake sites come up that they quickly address them they go to the social. Media Platforms provide evidence that this is a fake site and get the platform to take down those accounts it could be a news platform. It could be a social media account or various other things so they've been much more aggressive than we have been. In that regard there are nonprofit groups in many countries that are now monitoring social media sites to let's see which ones seem legitimate which ones are not legitimate there helping to keep false information from going viral which can happen very quickly in a digital world so there are a lot of constructive lessons that we can learn from the experiences of other country and the piece by Margaret Taylor did a great job of looking at some of the European countries and how they have been trying to combat fake online information. I WANNA finish with a quote again from the piece that you co authored with Rosh Gambhir has to do with the cost of election security and that's another argument that some opponents of federal role in election security of made is cost too much much someone a quote having secure elections is essential to democracy democracy is too important to be risked for a relatively small amount of money. How much money are we talking here? The House bill that already has been passed but not voted on by the Senate ask for the Federal Government to provide the fifty states with six six hundred million dollars to upgrade their equipment and safeguard the election infrastructure now in a country as rich as the United States. That's not a lot of money when the whole integrity of the election process is on the line and the substance of our democracy is on the line like those things are so important written that spending that amount of money is an inexpensive investment in our future because we don't get it right in twenty twenty. It's like we're going to risk a very dismal future and so spending the money now to protect against cybersecurity risks is something we absolutely have to tell when I thank you for taking the time today to walk through some of these issues. Thank you very much for Darrell West as the Vice President Director of governance studies at the Brookings Institution. 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Episode 313: Pablo Francisco Spills NEW JOKES!

The Captain's Log with Host Brien Spina Podcast

14:39 min | 1 year ago

Episode 313: Pablo Francisco Spills NEW JOKES!

"Won't live live lime live. Pablo Francisco is my guest today on the captain's log. Welcome back in good morning. It's going to be your man in the captain's log man we hit now to radio station just left one zero five five the beat now. We're going to big Mama one three point nine. We're in Naples fort what Myers performing at Naples shows all weekend at the we tonight go go. We got Alex John Stewart last night. It was great Alex was great. We enjoyed actually has headline show on Wednesday as well yep so good deal man rocking from from the same place that Carlos Mitzi is front forgot the way that is yeah so even used. I used to get up this early era for radio and for the show yeah I am and lately. It's been almost like three days a week so for the most part yes all right now. You're traveling red eye. Ra took a red eye man and I wasn't even stone so hey aw that's actually yeah they can move in flight magazine. You happens sometimes. Okay Postpone Okay and can you can't make that connection flight because sometimes go direct here and everything and we come from Co from Los Angeles and then from there I was in Boston performing at the Wilbur theatre and those fantastico there but a second. I'd be too well. You know summer there in Boston. The ads will jelly. It's GONNA get chilly in a row now. We're hearing where it always stays the same temperature all the temperature right pretty much we have. I'm a special guests in the backseat. WHO's special turn today's first day. She's she's taking the Ri- with us and we're talking about some nasty stuff man any shoes back there listening. I was like Oh. I didn't know she's first day at its first day. It's a good way to break away there. You Go Kidman Pablo. She's she knows everything yeah. She's GonNa whole life story father so you've been playing dad lately. I've been playing. I call it step friend but then you know you've got a friend of mine's daughter living in with me and you know she's there too but the mom but yeah it's kind of interesting because I would say usually it's usually that the guys having a guy kid over would be better but you know they cook cooks. You're very good. Cook folks really yes. In the way of the MOMS and the daughters get together. They do their make ups and stuff like that and you know. I'll come in on a roommate to have it because what I'm gone Wednesday talk yeah. I'm gone through Wednesday road literally for like twenty five years yeah. It seems like ten but yeah. It goes by really quick but it's fun because you know you guys people to travel okay. Thank you your name on my thinking yeah so yeah we've been. I've been working like I think three three three weeks out of the month though so I decided to do yeah slow down for a little bit because I noticed my schedule as well as working like five maiming every week. y'All got pity weeks scenario but still fun still vacation me see. I don't mind doing it could get into comedy comedy by it was just a hobby. You know I call it a cruel like the first time you I would say it was blocking is fun bar seventeen years old and then decided to go there because it was and the first prize was a membership at Open Court House who's a gym and so I went in there and give it a shot at that point on. I took my brother's. I D I was like sixteen. So I took my brother's. Idee kind of look alike. I switched it up and went in there and took first them right material. Did you just cannot be be funny right. Material Roma. I choke was like I could do Casey Kasem impersonation here before we get to all the songs. I won't play him fucking commercials. I I joke and it was fun. It was you know. I didn't think I didn't had no idea that there was a Business Korea free for the rest of your life yeah. If he is a hobby I guess but back then I mean those like one comedy club. You know all Arizona saying you you go and do these amateur nights juicy people's eight by ten that this is really deserves school for this and there wasn't so I basically just you know they'll challenge shows and that kind of fit right in college and as I got out to Los Angeles and circle on start checking out things when I go there my parents you know vacations. Should you know you really made it like this was going to be your thing when I think when the Improv called my house went on my setback of the VHS tape in the they said there were signing comedian so I said really I go. Wouldn't you guys think about doing this thing. All we just figured that you know the other Improv we have from Los Angeles they were they were just growing to Cleveland and Phoenix Arizona so when they called me up and said you were thinking about handling comics which like to join what's your and I just ended up you know just after that flow and doing one nighters and doing the Improv club and then there's one nighters just after a while you just stop. I had to quit my job. Because what was your reach out. What kind of job is Paulo Francisco Okay. Would I have worked as a video game vendor for while you and I will take the the machines to the Malibu Grand Prix and sears arcane and from that point on it was like Donald Pizza. That's what brought my material. I was delivered deliver pizza and making the bucks to at so many comic. Tell me that they would. They delivered pizzas. You know what is your alone time. We get the listening jams and you get the right material so that's what happens. Do you write a lot of material now or is he. Just you being naturally funny. Oh also right stuff is it always got to put down always. GonNa put down to see what's going around. Now like all these stay current and take the old stuff and mix it up a little bit because you know what they wanted to get the hits they wanna hear some of the hits and you want to take those hits and onto along because also you know be the same song oh the bike different but still there and it's the same song but it's I mean stuff but there's definitely new stuff that got put on my hand right. There and I see that you always can keep his. What do you do keep a settlers underhanded. You keep all these new shows. Try out new ones wins It's Iraqi suicide hotline. Can I help you yes. I'm going to kill myself wait. Can you drive a van okay. That's what's this when a group group or go there. I love these rock groups and they always got groupies right but there's a you know I went to saw. This blues band like fat chicks. Take the groupies or the one girl group okay. It's one girl the whole yeah working on that one going to work. So what do you do tonight like jokes on. Aren't you scratched out yeah. We got a transfer those onto the computer but I've forgotten notebook too so I've got my pin over here. There you go. You're did you go right on my hand. Work it out on stage and see how it goes and you don't WanNa. Put too many new ones in a row you WANNA make sure it's what happens when you write a joke bomb. It's a letdown because you know somewhere. It was funny. That's what you wrote it down. Somehow it you know I usually write them down down on my hand and they get to the living room and then they're finished. When I get to the kitchen my house and then I just tried out in the shower and kills with the echo shower close. Oh yeah if people you're seeing showers and Natto the jokes in their best part especially you gotta go to your show because you got a shower before the show. What about what you tell Joe for the first time it crushes yeah. It's great man. That's Christmas. Do you forget like you'd never forget jokes old and then you forget them. I really don't understand that why something she'll good you forget. You never forget the name but this is like wait. You never forget it well. You heard him really well. Yeah I remember one girl name. Name was five hundred Dallas but yeah sometimes you get those ideas just like musicians. I guess when they get a good song. They try to get the rhythm record. The rhythm doesn't work out so yeah I gotTa Right. Make sure I write down everything so I don't cut my watch the recorded no you keep it going to find out what your problem would problem. Ms. I tried to take other people's problems and try to find a solution to it and maybe bill burr like he you know when you when you listen to his comedy he's always like taking stuff off your shoulders for that's right. That's right so he pitches for us. Big Mama's watching my sister Charlene. We're going to be on the big Mama show next rate. Who gives you the inspiration Berezin for your jokes. Like what did you decide. It was your favorite comic growing up where you're like. Wow I really want to be like this. Oh Yeah I would say when I was I watched like Richard Pryor on course on television but when I saw Eddie Murphy's delirious that's what I was going man this funding because he's saying everything I relate to and what do you think about him could make a comeback. We have you know a great you know hopefully I saw him with Jerry Seinfeld talking and there were having this conversation and it was actually good conversation so you know the he still gets a comedy juice going prayed that he was taking too much of a break but then again who am I mean he's thinking movies still so does this come back. It'd be fantastic. It's super abundances. You know so you know it's going to be talking about zubi passionate about his own topics instead of telling you taking notes back there. My intern is studying the Arie hard right. Now that's good. It's blank just like the rest of his visit. We're hitting BIG MAMAS MAMAS suit. What are you going to do this weekend. In in Naples plan when it's probably work on this hour that I'm working on and let's see here. I got a new laptop when it took down one hour each this is like the throw away ones you used used but I fall in a new one so I think it's an ems around and then these two of the comics that are working with me. Guide Aliquo and Adam Ramirez Ramirez remarriages I don't even for like eighteen years and he started doing comedy and he's actually really good and then of course he just started no well. He hasn't started to me. He has but he's as you're actually really funny. He's gotten a lot better since last time. We worked up at branch so he's one of those guys who wanted to be one of them. We're now trying to and if you're doing real good at it so they got to San. Who's really funny so we're going to probably videotape and film some stuff? I don't know how big is this. How many people are in it. I think we've got about I want want to say two hundred thousand two hundred three and light in the area in Naples. It's very smart thinking the city of Naples is only like thirty thousand twenty five thousand thousands but it's that's just a little small area mostly the whole areas good size and portfolio Myers in it right and get the military going on right so the number two hundred sixteen radio market so what's up over half. So how long have you been living here. Actually I've been living here years since ninety six and then I moved here full-time Ninety eight when I got home kid the data me what's that that's dating me. Twenty Five Years Lord Ms Union High School Reunion coming up. Oh is that right yeah this this Shia debating should I go go you should oh you definitely gotta go to Tina Tan. I never went but I don't know I couldn't go on the Road House working clubs yeah yeah but you know all the people that right. I wanted to see I saw them before I saw if I was to go because you were going to the cloud city you see a friend Flash Watson. He's always comes swayze Tom. Tom Tells Tucson Arizona so when you go back you play the club. Dare I will play the club. They're in. I haven't played lasted a long time but I I played the some late the smaller bent over there but I haven't been there in a while because it gets kind of boring over there was it does insist but that's just me you know it's I'd rather in Los Angeles where it's fun and there's a beach and it's cool winds. How far the beach Eland I live half a little less than half a mile really yeah. I like going in there at nighttime. That's when that's when it's clubs are going off yeah when was party yeah. It's it's a fun little town. The beach booties beautiful uh-huh like a Nice Beach Booty beach booty. All put together and then other than that does green is this. I mean look at all. These take plush yeah. It's very nice tropical landscapes year news area so they keep up with it was the price of living good here or if expensive. I think it's expensive yes as blue-collar or no candidates for now. It's it's very as CEO. Ish Our choice see. Here's the Jacksonville. Florida used the bills that that's a different. That's a different different world difference club. Oh it's great man and you know it was up. Yeah don't Ogle thing I saw was kind of funny. See like a a big old. White chick in a in a Jacuzzi we buy little black is kind of how kind of weird yeah it's fun. It's all good so put together and then a we think about Bernie Sanders and I just think about him because he looks like a baby bird Did you think he's GonNa pull it. All fully crap and every homeless man will be not homeless and every person who wants to go to school yeah yeah go heels dreams come true every every every. Jeannie will give three wishes. Yeah ooh Well guys You need to see Pablo all weekend. Hysterical shows these two tonight tomorrow on Sunday off the hook comedy dot com for tickets as the captain's log Pablo Francisco's by guests and I appreciate you coming back on. You've been on the captain's log. Now I think three times cousins look look seventy one to one all right tune in to be one of three nine big. Mama coming up next guys we out good Barrowman.

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True Killers

Disturbed: The American Horror Story Podcast

32:55 min | 1 year ago

True Killers

"Well cutest server we are talking season nine episode four local recording the new episode so either Thursday night or Friday morning the new episode is GonNa hit a discussion thread for that episode and actually I'll do it tomorrow is tomorrow Wednesday I'll do it tomorrow for tomorrow night's episode live from the disturbed twitter feed so if you want to join the team for somebody who is into doing that please reach out you can send an email to to disturb wallets happening and you live tweet and you get in conversation with people reach out to us because Chris and I cannot do that but we would love to have somebody live tweet pod at Gmail dot com or you can send it to southgate media group at gmail.com that might actually be a better place or right in the threat Oh Chris and I have been trying to figure it out it was scheduling conflict we had we tried to work it out so here's what we're GonNa do tonight is the last Tuesday night if you are I gotta pull this up to if you live tweet during the show if you're a fan of ours and you like to watch the show show we're GONNA come back on Thursday so the day after the new episode airs we will be right here on skit conversation going I would love if people were talking about the episode so that's GonNa help to I'll put up a would we post the show will put up twitter were on Instagram I think so in other words I don't use instagram for that but you can follow at Rob Southgate on instagram and that's where you'll find my stuff of course made my open so that's okay here we go yeah it was Christie Morris why is this a week way to make it worth going to our facebook page worth going to our twitter feed and if you as the followers has the FANS WANNA post anything posted in there does show on the day that the new episode airs and the right that's a really bad move so you're right we should have done that from the beginning it just was a little bit tricky here I'm GonNa see if I can see who it is so I can even credit them for being awesome and telling us that head on the show and just say like hey man I am into doing a live tweeting the show I'd love to join the team and southgate you can follow me on twitter at our southgate more importantly follow disturbed follow at disturbed Bod podcast we're on facebook were on like our facebook page natural means from the show but maybe since we have a lot of horror fans here maybe putting some more horror stuff there it's a great month to get that conversation going and so after you guys Shit if you want to discuss the episode Chris and I'll talk about on the show and we record on Thursday and I got one more piece of business so fire season we only have a few left unfortunately it's very strange but here's the other thing on is stepping it up today posted a me I'm going to start trying to post something every day we'll pick the person we think is right we'll make it happen there we go Chris Ready to talk about this one luckily reduce ourselves I'm rob feel free and you know we'll start we'll start talking about some horror stuff even outside of American horror story so Chris this was and all of our disturbed or Southie group stuff too so yeah yeah I want to put some more stuff up on I know like we were on crypt keeper she had us on for an interview I know that there are a lot of fans there let's talk about horror saucer posting some stuff they are Chris if you've gotten if you WANNA post after the show so bummed we need a podcast discouraged you know what you deserve time Korean is about the doing and we will stick with it for the through killers some of our predictions were right yes they were so what happened what happened just how `bout you great criminal I can find a blue box cafe or backstabbing one seven six on social media also GEEKS CON with Z. It's it's very shocking so I don't know but we did get some stuff right and they're you know again it's another tell all walk people's backgrounds of finally got a little bit about Montana's background yup we got a little bit of Margaret's background which we were we totally called you're done but I mean I thought was Italian going to be why is she going to be wanting Brooke dead and it was because of the wedding obviously they put it Margaret and I called Montana's I've not discussing fuck with my wife about it I don't I don't think you called that it was going to be hat but remember at the end of the last episode she kissed him I think we were just like yeah this is going to evolve into something I don't think we went into prediction so did you Dave I bought it with I think as we go forward we're going to see the night before the wedding and she is evil the final girl that she's a good girl at everything that that she's a victim here and I think right with him I don't know possibly that's what's going to happen probably I think we're being set up the cheese he is he's like Jason though he's like Superhuman Richard Ramirez took a knife and stabbed down his back and he's still got up and killed Ramirez into him but they did yeah she manipulated this guy I love him he got up after she killed him I loved it how she was going to be tied in with wanting to get her killed maybe it'll dead I don't remember I mean I think we're we're just talking about or maybe I speculated after okay but didn't we call that too he said Margaret was the one that did it maybe jingles didn't do anything and we didn't have it completely right we didn't say oh well he had electroshock therapy and they put it the puck gets up Hud's yeah I mean they were again once again pulled liberal the the best man was were brother how did they not know that or how was that how do you think they're gonNA flip the cards and we're gonNA find out that she actually did sleep it from other stories on I mean even even went as far as they the pulp fiction on us so they did maybe she's setting all this stuff up to talk about the end result so it was so eighties and then engineers he was he was dissing to the idol come go ahead from that's the crowd now you know what's really funny about that earlier would he walked in when she called him Rambo there was he was stabbed through there so it's like right into the sore how bad scene Palmer it's like yeah yeah no that's an absolutely great scene but I felt sorry for Eric Stoltz getting bounced the kind of and then he gets he gets stabbed back he gets shot three times shot where he looked up and his hair was kinda down that was what I was like Oh she's supposed to be like the crow but it I didn't remember that you just said this Macho man oh man robes better men met aerobics at night cokes up hey guys give it a finger I love that guy he's like why are you why are we listening to this metal music had billy idol this metal music I want to offer one see I was thinking of that there's a there's a movie called rest stop where he walks she's got the bloody feet it reminded me of that could have been lobbying who's also not carey itching I mean birdy comes back for one less attempt and then what was that from is one of my favorite just the roommates in back and she's allstone although the Yoshi stolen she's watching the whole thing like just as macab what's his name showed showed the guy call the other guy showed in this one goes I haven't heard that since the eighties maybe they always had something where the lights went out there in the locker room and you know it usually there's somebody looking through a people they didn't have that but they're killing off main characters left and right though I mean people are going to be left although I mean Ramirez got resurrected but doc carries the other one but I thought Constantine work the devil comes out because the character and where he comes down to Polka the the the when she was in the locker room it reminded me of the faculty or any other eighties they called Ramirez out for being Rambo and then but it's not him it's setting those traps and total Rambo traps that was he did with the needle around watch it with Martha and she's just like Oh my God no and I said well you saw this picture like that when they were both bleeding and then he had to push he went a little deep scream or I mean also isn't there like you know neither like the whole thing with the whole third so yeah so her about her exercise class you have it was obviously Hansel and Gretel but I was also thinking of Freddie in I think it's new nightmare do you remember the hidden new nightmare when they put in the oven doc slowly she's like just let's get this over with but how about him he's like acting like oh I'm burned no have you ever gotten let's comes out he's like oh no he sacrificed David so yeah no just think back more I just love how much how about that he's laying there at told did it totally look like an alien Brockton looks the pro tougher bent from that's the crow put them from other places the trap whatever I mean that's that was so great we're Rambo yeah were they they will I can't remember at the end where Ramirez got against brought back to life early what he's got some beard and Mustache Combo I'm GonNa just I'M GONNA call it right down exactly birdy comes from the basically comes on the green to save them held in with a soup ladle preventative getting out yes us remember that it's like oh he's the big headed there was that was a little oh would she would he would he had to plunge it in was s memory reminded scream I don't know it was so did they ever seen you why did you why don't you want to be killed Hugh might when she was messed up she wasn't going to survive she didn't want to be left there and like how attractive Chris I think you should get that beard mustache it's okay I tried the beard it didn't work so total silence of the lambs at the jess what he was like look at my own my God could you rip off for more but yeah until they were trying to say there did jingles here her and disappear and he just kind of closed his eyes like blacked out for a second or is jingles like magic the same whatever magic has brought that hitchhiker around could it be the same kind of magic that's playing here maybe I don't know maybe he disappeared because he if you're GONNA buy that lot right don't be so obvious warming yoga the problem with those of a back to the future because he actually could act like it and it's like Oh Yup have the Christopher Michael J. Fox ed but it's like that is there's not a whole lot of space so you put as much house as cat that's the only way to get any kind of value out of it so they've done that in Seoul and then he's walking he's got the blood on the feet and I I can't think of the guy's name that I love that movie that's one of my favorite things at all so we're here when we saw after the the new houses put in that newhouse was just ridiculous I mean it didn't look like anything else in the neighborhood it stuck out like a sore thumb and you're like grew up front I want to say we had a a message this week that that they're kind of bummed out that we friend was killed by genuine Gezi and he had the like the beard that when like like straight down and he talked like this uh-huh and that seem oh you know you still got this thing going on thank you have you own a restaurant you burn your finger hurts like hell and it hurts like hell for a long time and you pick it his skin is peeling off dude yes and then he's out running around because crawls over Brittany runs in your runs into jingles and jingles disappears now I with the bloody feet that was street from constantly with the Dell was it will remember guard would they David disappeared like no houses up for sale with a lot is would like at were you like beard from one of the guys from CC top I mean Dale who was like a couple of yeah yeah they got a whittal bound does that count it was pretty boss pretty sued I can't I I had a friend Dave that had one of those and he had a long when he's the guy who's in what melting yeah I was thinking of robocop yeah it was when he was in the in the oven I mean the House the House has gone yeah we really did you ever try by their by their before yeah yeah so we're we my friend was eaten by a clown is beared by my client like what Davey was we'd watch polo played his friend asleep bad for killing every out that it wasn't him because that was after you got he said this isn't me right and do this or whatever screaming and crying going good perfect way and if approved and he's literally like melted steady standard lots and the only way to make it work as they did the same thing in Lincoln widow park park is much bigger lots Norwood park are those especially those collar suburbs of Chicago 'cause it knew that Elmwood is that what that was yeah think so yeah I mean they're all right there they all have those do whatever the hell out of here definitely she's embracing it because she said like our journey's complete we've reversed this now sized I if I have to kill him I have to stop this but as soon as she did it's like Oh that feels good when she stabbed jody and she's like Oh feel so good like oh boy she is not coming back from this and did you notice when she was talking to the rest of the yeah so what's going to happen here I mean so she is she's full-on psycho now and she is so she has embraced this I'm the killer whereas before I think she was I think she was bathing him there so that she could I mean that's cutting like your spine how did he live coat. I don't know maybe the coats magic I I don't know maybe he's just yeah but they didn't resort to like in the eighties it would have been like one of them would have ripped the other one's shirt off in the cat fight or they didn't do anything the man head bashed in Nope nope that's what she hit her with that stick Bam it was like that was really fantastic imagine knowing that you didn't do a going in getting treatment being convinced that you didn't do it and then coming back then Brooke was up into things he's trapped in it and Jingles Ramirez that was a great scene when Ramirez was up he's like dude you're a legend but I gotta kill you now once again jingles if you watch it Ramirez takes that he's got that night but I don't know what you call that type of nights it's worked but it takes that knife and he gets right into jiggles back it's goes down win when the opportunity arose and she could she could set up jingles so so messed up from being in being in the asylum it hasn't affected he's got the magic coach the magic I I don't think he's working with the nurse I don't think she baited him yeah I don't think she baited him I think she truly was trying to do whatever the psycho thing was but when he showed up she really next that was that was really great it was totally Freddie versus Jason and when we push the thing and Brixton right fighting names Dot Rita Donald we're calling Rita they started fighting that was awesome here good she she took a good shock because he had the blood orders not jingles she's the Alpha and he'll have to kill her because he wants he's like it's my turn and he's fully possessed at this point nothing was fantastic and you know Martha was laughing we're sitting here watching it and she was like Oh my God why am I watching this from like because it's amazing and and then she goes to great now they've got to have a cat fight at the US I think they are I think they are I think that this story that we're seeing play out is going to be wrapped up you know but now she's going to have to contend with Ramirez Ramirez kinder side maybe on last time but be done with it right I think she was really being done with it but then she realized oh I have bloodlust this feels really good fire though she did that because she's GonNa Kill Him we are just going to kill all those people are there any kids actually coming in probably one of the only people that was really nice to him right Yup turns out to be the person that puts you in there basically and the crew she standing in front of the car on fire like she's in Hell Shelley's the devil carry wasn't yeah total your company Oh true no I think Margaret really was having kids there I don't think she said any of this up other than barely very I mean okay well there's four and then you've got Margaret Margaret you got five the typical blood out of the mouth lineup yes yeah with your blood was lyles like this is great yeah yeah that was column at it would be like okay now the whole story can go to rest and I can do this fantasy Beta number two he's working with it is I was back yet that things spikes through his head right through high that he was fine so I have a feeling and then Richard Ramirez and Mr Jingles right yeah six people is you can't two thousand nineteen who's still alive Xavier Montana Rook Rita sets the live right go four episodes and not have at least one die as you whittle it down you've got like three bad guys running around yeah that's what I was thinking about I couldn't remember where but yeah no it was it was good wasn't and of course she obviously started the card AAC IT air poll didn't do though they were fighting you have labor fighting would read a picked up that rocket like just like loop you know is he going to come back are the others GonNa get stuck in this loop are they gonNa have this like I know I killed you uh you know he may not in error he may not come back and be the character we saw because he has died and resurrected if they're all trapped there wouldn't all those girls that that Margaret killed wouldn't they pop up because I don't know I don't know man I think we haven't seen that hitchhiker he's out there the dude that appeared dispirit what what was that with him so fast it's like I don't what are they gonNA do they gonNa do another roanoke and they're going to have him go to like back to the real life and it's clash forward you're GONNA we've we've been before so yeah so yeah I don't know man asked die to he's another one that has today so you got anything else for this one no I can see like my wife is not particularly like the seasons she thinks it's frivolous and not very scary nor very good I don't think it's very scary but I'm having a blast win Glenn he may not be even the Ramirez we saw he may be more ruthless he might be the devil incarnate just doing state I don't I think you know I I like the payoff with kind of Brooks back story I liked the payoff with rocking back and forth of July. She's GonNa get out she's GonNa get out it's so obvious at Aetna Madison and Rita's remember the scene where they met that twosies to maybe but if he figures out that she is the one that did the but then there's a good chance that it's going to turn brook is the big bad who you think is the final girl is the big bet that might be the good ones so that actually might be that would be a great twist but then again this is episode what four right we got a long way to go man so we'll see that one tomorrow and then Thursday will be back to talk about it and we'll be right here on get vocal hopefully we'll get this figured out so that it actually streams on our facebook page which is what it's suppose I know there's some setting wrong or something's not working I'll figure it out hey before we go I got a couple of things we definitely a little bit even though he killed a bunch of dudes coming back so yeah he's he's definitely not a good guy he's got a good guy but I can understand him being you know have some some sponsors I'd like to share with you number one if you shop at Amazon which most of us do go to the link Amazon dot you know what I mean like hotel can't get away from it I don't know oh that could be everybody's trapped there although everything's the same but everything you spend on that visit we get a tiny commission for which is awesome it doesn't add up to it's not really a lot but over time it could to be doing worker and I it shows the lake I think it's got this stream on my personal page because Birdie said they'll be here in a couple of hours I think over the next like two episodes how does bring Margaret told her like it freak show wasn't necessarily scare either though but Grecia was freaky freak show was very strange this is strange is is is is the or video that would be better yeah sure but I mean this whole thing with Xavier's he mean that I thought that was you know I I like it just because of all the you

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 It's unification season!

SI Boxing with Chris Mannix

41:50 min | 1 year ago

It's unification season!

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What's up Dan I mean like you said he is an absolute beast the wears you down and you know we knew that he was a tremendous puncher he was obviously a a quality fighter you don't continue to do that sort of stuff against him was very impressive I thought he was Winning that fight very closely when they got to the Nakai around there was a lot of people it was exactly what you're hoping for in a fight like that you had two guys that are clearly elite at their way class going back and forth and I was one of the people I think liked his past weekend big one hundred forty pound unification coming up this weekend yet Daniel Jacob set to make his debut at one hundred let's go back on the pond always appreciate your your presence here man we got a lot to get to unlock coming up in the next couple of weeks so let's jump right into it owns and Vostok could only do it for nine plus what did you make of what better be of showed in his most significant fight to date I thought he did a great job on like solid legit guys like third and fourth fifth fight knocking out guys like divorce cloud but votes it was the best opponent he had fun the fact he was able to the Olympics twice and have the kind of amateur career that he had and move as quickly in the pros he had if you're not talented I mean if you go back and look at his early career record he was taking that was that was you know taking the other guy sort of breaking them down bit by bit was a better so you know in the end you know it was like wiggs interval stick better be of is just a brutal brutal puncher I mean he is just relentless when he chases you around the ring up at Voss Dick fought pretty well I fight sorta like the the the freight train with no brakes going downhill you know eventually you just ran the guy over and that's pretty much what happened the votes put in a game effort and ringside that uh slightly head who had done a very good job of boxing moving and I understand you score boxing around by around but if you watch that fight even I thought that was was doing the job in terms of the boxing it was very obvious to anybody that was there that that that the guy that was doing the damage the guy that was hitting harder eared let's let's go back to this past weekend in Philadelphia you and I are both ringside to watch arthur better be of just terrific in his win over reminded me a little bit of a fight from several years ago that I covered win Antonio Margarito fought Manny Pacquiao I mean I'm sorry when Margarito fought Miguel Koto and therefore go by a point but it was close up until that point and had a chance to win like he was right there with an opportunity to win if he could just keep moving and keep at the time he got to the tenth round and got knocked down three times you know he was all done and and wins the fight has his hand raising unifies two of the titles for most of the fight but as tends to happen when you go up against opponents like like better be if you got to be able to hold them off for twelve around I think you did as well as pick up by a point in that going better up by a point when it was stopped okay yeah we'll either way sticking moving but that's what better does he just wears you down he chases you around the ring he cuts the ring off exceptionally well and he he beats up on you I don't know that keep going forward and keep keep plowing ahead and keep throwing punches you know he didn't seem tired at all in that fight but it's you know if you WanNa make the big money and better on top ranked side of the street you've got some good names there some Some titleholder some lesser titleholders some former titleholders in the case of Israel Ramirez at once it could become a very similar kind of fight bill is a little smaller he's talked about how he could if given the opportunity for the right fight easily go down the next year against Dmitry Evil I don't know that it ends in any differently I mean evils even smaller than those Dick he is a lesser puncher. So how do you think that fight is to happen because you're right I mean people have been fighting on zone but he's not tied to zone I don't think zone would be all that he would then have the opportunity to take you know a non-mandatory fight and certainly be you know who has the ability to pretty much where he wants because he's not tied down to -cerned about losing him since he's not exactly a draw in terms of you know subscription buyers and he doesn't sell tickets really anywhere the same hey Bob Arum they're they're very close already to deal with his Mandatory against Chinese fighter they might take that fight to China sometime in February and after that as a division that needs to have a unified champion I mean I think that division needs it needs its version of it needs definitely a makeable fight it's GonNa come down to what is the Bible Camp GonNa want financially they've had conversations you know with top rank and remember when he was before he did the fight against Lenin Custodio you know they had taken an offer from PBC for multi fights that had conversation with top rank which was in dollars for the unification fight when they met each other and the people camp for any old fight has been seeking you know seven figures more than that somebody to be undisputed there to get any kind of traction amongst like a mainstream ish type of audience because even after a fight like that it gets better I mean better be and make the one hundred and sixty eight pound limit in super middleweight division and now you're taking on if I were to happen against be better be of you know it was a a big time big size he doesn't sell tickets he doesn't draw a big crowd you know he's been a champion now for a while he just bought a new six undercard so you know their their financial expectations the eight so he can certainly bounce back in a big fight but better be of he showed he was scared and I tell Ya Dan if he does target a unification fight sometime listen household name he's going to need to beat evil and maybe unify against either Kovalev somebody else down the line to really gain traction amongst some different center fans I mean light-heavyweight with tremendous punching power and in a almost like a a relentless style like just a a continuous well of of ability I did but didn't have any room on their schedule or frankly in their budget for the remainder of this year but that will change obviously once the new year kicks around in the schedule opens up in the in the him in the same way now I'd like to see that fight for sure because they're both probably the two best guys in the way class at the moment other than cloverleaf who has his own assignment coming up with the Mello but I would like to see the fight but I agree with your assessment that Vivo matches up more style wise to logic and he does a better be ended any television broadcaster they can they can go do their thing it just to me it's going to be you know what's going to be the money that's the issue and making that fight how are they gonNA work out of business can he looks in the mirror and says boy I blew that one he just got beat by a better guy and look I think vo stick will come back I think there's lots of light-heavyweight c could match him up with and what world is he worth that type of money I mean like I know that the pay scales kind of out of whack these days and has been for a little while I mean you do have to make a deal I mean do you think that those two sides can get together and we've seen we've seen fights fall apart over less than it would bother me Dan because the big names and get the opportunity to to unify you know you're going to have to go through better be have now he's GonNa fight in the early part of next year this was something that that his his handlers spoke about after the think then Dick and I think you'll have some success early on like did but I think the same thing will happen better be of will get to evil and L. but a million and a half I mean have sounds about right Eddie and zone of thrown around a huge amount of money and and I think some guys have got a little in the in the financial elements become a little more easy to deal with but they also are way way far apart so better be votes at each made a million and a half he's actually at times through the sheer will force his own handlers to make certain fights that they were not comfortable with but he wanted them you know his people okay to be quite honest I mean if you WanNa be in the light heavyweight picture should be fighting on ESPN if he wants to be in the super middleweight picture then he may have better alternatives world be quite frank I mean I think that's absolutely true if I'm if I'm Joan and I'm looking at kind of the guys that can sort of in the super middleweight division they'll be there would be a quality opportunities for them over on the BBC side there certainly would be opportunities with his own given there one fighter he's I enjoy watching me not be the most exciting I but he does a really good job against everybody they put him in with But the main thing is you know all by the wayside ten farmers kind of on that list I believe although I think he will get another fight against Joe Dias at some point in the next few months but you know beaver with with nobody really for him to fight like that's a guy that you could say all right well you know if you don't WanNa take whatever money were offering the weekend fit in our budget goes somewhere else if you want over in the UK against hometown favourite. Josh Taylor this is this is a fight I'm really excited about Dan because I think I think it's a coin flip type of fight to guys L. O. has shown a willingness to fight the best guys you know over the last number of years not every single fight is against the superstar opponent but he's fought a lot quality guys would be an exciting fight and interesting fight for sure it it's not a crossover mainstream kind of I at least not yet and that's not Canova's that's better be up despite the great victory that he had from what I am told so you know they're gonNa all have to get in the same St- hemisphere at least on the money or people's GonNa just be kind of left out in the cold he's an ex open sooner than golden boy and Oscar de la Hoya would have liked to make that fight so he has shown that he is willing to do that I think there might have been a little bit of that involved in this vulnerable but nonetheless shown that he would fight top guy so it wouldn't totally shocked me if he wanted to go and do a better be fed should he be Kovolev But I think a hammer out there in the ring you know these guys I don't think they like each other very much which adds another element to it I mean how do you see this plan out beats cove left do you think in any world camello would take on evil for the undisputed light heavyweight championship I have a hard time seeing it but you know one thing about him you this this is something that we were kind of kicking around on press row there for a minute let's say better be have fights evil and beats him and wins three pieces of that title let's say Cannella against music is not a household name in far from it just he's a he's a top quality fighter but he doesn't have you know any sort of you know it's it's it's another fight in a long line of fights we've seen this year where you've seen top guys each other yet another unification fight which is something that but overcome those difficulties he came back into the tournament and now here we are it's you know on the you know just a couple of days before the fight and I think most people expect a good exciting way of looking at it they've been gentleman not in a Lotta trash talk but they're both extremely confident they're both undefeated they both titles there they both have a good experience there's lots of other fights out there for them and you tell me disown has them under contract for what nine more fights and he's going to fight this fight with Kovolev and then do you think a little bit out of whack from what's legitimately available I look at it like this if people were to fight for the kind of money that that that are having fought for it's probably a doable fighter ah he's kind of evolved as a fighter his last couple of fights he'll try to get on the inside he'll try to bang it out his defense is certainly gotten a little bit better in recent fights but the best guys big stakes style match up that's that's that probably will be appealing when they actually hear the bell and they go at it with each other it's just it's a great fight they don't fight in the exact same style but styles that probably will lend itself to a good fight and you know when the tournament started they were both the number one is that are not necessarily different in style but they do fight odd different league Taylor's got a sized adventures height program is just a competitive fight and the winner certainly GonNa come out of that with a higher level of of notoriety they're going to have to title is going to have that undefeated record and set them some they're gonNa want him to fight better be which would be a fun fight but they would rather have a third glove fight they would probably even rather have a callum Smith fight so well did not want any part of the Austin trout fight he made that fight happened they didn't want any part of the aristocracy Lara fight they made that happen they really didn't want the triple G I fight he made that happen is good for the sport in my opinion I'm glad that progress and his team were able to work out their differences with the the folks that run the rohbock super series at one point he had dropped out ensued then they were so to me no knock on on on regions but but Ramirez done more and he also was the first you know he's the one that Jose Ramirez has something to say about that but these are certainly to an elite level guys at that weight class and I'm not sure how it plays out I mean I've I've seen the way progress fought the fight although I think that the handlers were a little more open to that maybe you know looking at the Waco the levins looked in recent fights his age and and and the perception of you know that he's you know sides are going to have to figure out what they WanNa do all right let's talk about the fight coming up this weekend put his piece of one hundred forty pound title on the line also was able to unify against hooker so you know ideally and I think it's possible the winner of the fight on Saturday at some point next year against Ramirez it was up for some certainly much bigger business even beyond what they're going to business they're going to do in this fight against each other it's just it's it's it's everything if you're a boxing fan it's exactly what you want to this was number one and Taylor was the number two seed and so the final has played played out the way that it was supposed to based on the seating so it's one versus to at least in terms of the tournament fight Jose Ramirez in the US somewhere that's a significant fight whether it's on ESPN or on pay per view whatever and then the winner of that fight interesting possibility in my opinion yeah I look I think that the winner of this fight the stakes couldn't be any higher in terms of what the reward is yeah I mean I don't necessarily see there being any deep bitterness between the two I mean they may be scrapping with these are a little bit of build up just because guys get on edge as they get closer to the fight but to me you can make a case you are strong candidates face turns Crawford at some point in two thousand twenty like you could go from Ramirez Ramirez de Crawford right away which is not a bad fight at all and that would probably be you know the spring slash summer fight for Ramirez in the meantime progress would come back to America mostly impossibly that have reduced comes out of this tournament with both of those titles Ramirez his his his game plan is sort of already set at the moment their plans to have the mandatory there's bigger fights and bigger money for him to to to stay either to go back to two middleweight or perhaps the fight in this remote away division because you know better be of what sure that's going to be a big factor in a fight like this I think this could be aesthetically Dan I really good fight because maybe just because I think program always makes good fights the next year we will see Ramirez and pro raised meat for the undisputed title that way class and then obviously the guy who wins that fight and even the loser of that fight very likely would go up to one hundred forty seven thousand either one of them who comes out of that will be sitting there pretty for an opportunity and what would probably deserved opportunity to take on Terence Crawford Nation with guys like Callum Smith so you know him and his team have to decide a where does he wanna fight what kind of what's their what's their expectations financially it's not that common on the other end if you just look at it and politics often get involved and money gets involved but if you look at it objectively the winner of this fight will have two titles you go over I hope it works out that way I'm pumped up for it I can say that yeah you know programs has come out and said like this this is one versus two these are the top two guys one hundred forty pound division you know Jose Ramirez has been my opinion proven himself professionally against better opposition at this point then progress has Josh Taylor has a good resume also because of it I think programmer Taylor is going to be a bigger star in a way if he beats donate air is going to be a bigger star it's had kind of its desired effect if at least if you're you know what are your takeaways from I know this this sort of incarnation with the the Bantam weights and and the hundred forty pounders a little more troubled than the first they're able to put together excellent fields in weight classes where there were fighters that maybe weren't household names who are very talented had titles but did not have the you know X. factor with the public let's say he's just not known it doesn't mean he's not good it doesn't he's not worthy of that kind of fight but if you're yellow you know it's still business and time around the financial issues were obviously well chronicle but you can't argue with the fact that you know in the the first run of it came out of it a bigger star in the United States was was ridiculously terrible they've run their business poorly in my opinion they had a lot of problems they had a lot of potential lawsuits and guys who didn't get paid on time and Taylor wants in on that sort of scenario you probably can have an also yeah the the former undisputed one forty versus the current undisputed one forty s I money they had a lot of issues with that they lost their one of their sponsors that was putting up a lot of money so the way it was run internally there was a lot of issues but you can't argue with with what they did to get the top guys to go into the tournament now I think the future because of all these kinds of problems they may have trouble attracting some of the top guys profiles you know prior to the bypass the birth of his own if you will it was a disaster because they're they're broadcast situations against postal was a former titleholder who Taylor has win over to do that fight probably in February after that he has a second story against Jack Cantrell and other very solid content that kind of entertainment a little better be of votes cash in the sense that you know it's it's a very even match up they're both highly regarded guys whoa that's one of the worst things you can do and boxing promoter is to have guys get in the ring and and punch each other for you know however long the fight goes and pay them on time that's unforgivable whether it was bonus money is a pretty appealing matchup for a lot of reasons let me ask you this as as we wind down the second season of the world boxing super series heard from numerous promoters and managers and frankly some fighters who were like I'm not gonNA ever go into that it's so much of a pain in the neck but when it's done properly and the compunction face mattis all right we'll come back to the episode of the S. I. Boxing podcast on this episode. We'll talk about the big light heavyweight unification oh you know he's GonNa be you know probably still raining as one of the title holders in the Welterweight Division so that's not something that's written in stone but that's sort of like the rough idea and certainly likely defended the unified titles that he will potentially have won against Josh Taylor perhaps even a second time staying on the same schedule as Ramirez and then sometime around this time lights actually are are are taking place you know they they've done a good job with the now I did think in the second season having yet another cruiserweight tournament which was the third tournament they did this your first Zaire defect is better name recognition at this point and what have been your take away from it do I agree but in the first two season he's GonNa ask instead of a million and a half dollars for two two and a half or three you know then you know thank you but no thank you can go back and fight Lennox teams in the world and you know not not being big time they just did the two tournaments at super middleweight and cruiserweight in the in the second season as you mentioned the band and waits junior welterweight but they also did another addition of cruiserweights that wasn't really unnecessary seems like a complete waste of money and time particularly because the whole concept of the first season was to crown the undisputed champion which they did with us and then he was still defending watching that fight whenever that fight is on but that's where we're in the vast minority so in a way against don't air is not even gonNA probably register in this country Have to be selective with your weight classes I completely agree that going cruiserweight again was a mistake so if they can get it together I do think as you could have injected that super series into the mainstream and give it maybe some momentum maybe you would have had the ability to announce another way class that's a way to get a ton of eyeballs I know the zone was interested in doing that but they couldn't make it work with the box super series but that to me Dan feels like a way getting some of them have become available and were put into the tournament but I thought the second season cruiserweight completely unnecessary if they can just stick to a more refined learned in progress slightly more obviously but you know I still don't think that because of the timing for the United States market it's going to do anything as much a mistake as as anything was not finding a way to do both the Inouye donayre and Taylor on the same card in the United States oh so they had a lot of issues so there's been a lot of good things about it but there's been a lot of things that if they're gonNA continue on they really need to work out and reasonably big and we'll be watched by the hardcore boxing fans but it won't get anywhere near the mainstream coverage that having an all in one night would be zone obviously wanted to have now I know money talks in situations like this and certainly there's a gate that can be done in a way over in Asia and Josh Taylor in Japan and split occasions for some of them they didn't do a great job promoting they didn't sell out of tickets obviously they were you know they they still had disowned broadcaster but disowned still was not Saturday on a college football Saturday at you know the main event probably goes around five PM eastern time not the most conducive for top audience when you know in a way is going to be in the morning hours American time because of the you know it's about a twelve hour difference between here in Japan so that doesn't really do anything or anybody the hardcore people like me and you you know I'll be signed pick two way classes do it the way he did the first season at pay your guys on time make sure your money isn't order you know they can they can do a very solid job not nearly as well covered or seen they should have been Dan it's hard especially in the UK because it's backstopped what mainstream let's say they're getting there it seems but at that time when the second season was going on you know people still would ask how do I watch the fight where do I find his own like they just didn't know some of these events in the in the United States now again the final match ups are perfectly good obviously Taylor and program even talking about the tremendous match up but it's going to be you know but they didn't do in my opinion they didn't do a very good job promoting the fights in the United States the few events they had here you know they they had they had bad dates for some of them they had in Portland ah coming up in our next super series we'll do one fifty four just throwing that out there as an example instead you've kind of got these two events which are heavier favorite in his fight against on air but has a very big name and you know certainly earned his way into the final that fight because it taking place in Japan my understanding is that I will take place most likely the shows I get all that but you do in a way donor as the co main two programmes Taylor is the main review in a reverse it I don't really care that's a terrific event you know for those events there's owners willing to pay a lot more to have those in this time zone it didn't work out that way and so you know there's there's tremendous fights that will happen but they will be you know fight to the next he win some lose some David price on his third attempt at redemption if you will terms of how they're going to draw by dirt Zora against David Price which is two guys that are pretty popular over in the UK Sora keeps going from one you know people can say well you know you're just stuck up American well no I'm not a stuck with American I also live in the real world and no this is where the most eyeballs are for those events and where the most money would be the Pfizer Sora when the original fight fell apart you know for that for his audience there for the British pay per view for the arena in London obviously making just or price made a lot I'm curious because look the winner take step forward right and I think you're sores justifiably the favorite in a fight like this but price can crack in any certainly the underdog to be in the favorite so for him it's probably a good thing sometime in December Dan I think December twentieth is the working date. We're going to see Daniel Jacobs back in the ring he's GonNa move to one hundred six the eight pounds right now the plan is to have Cesar Chavez Junior B.'s opponent as he moves up to one sixty eight jacobs coming off the loss to Cannella would really was percents and the you know that that should be fun fight I don't think it's the highest stakes fight of all time but it's a it's a if you like heavyweight statue good scrap as they say is up a puts himself into an interesting mix of fighters up there what do you make of of Jacob's at one hundred sixty eight pounds and and what kind of threat he can be only a matter of time before we moved supermiddleweight he was always a very big middleweight who it took a lot out of them to get down to one hundred sixty pounds now he moves has shown the ability to stop guys before but the winner of that fight let's maybe against Joseph Parker maybe we see them against it's at least relevant you know it's a relevant heavyweight fight I think it's a welcome addition to away class on no doubt about it you know he has had trouble making one sixty once you lose Kello you've lost your title I'm not sure what on shortage short notice because there was a change in that situation but you know win win hearn was look Eddie hearn was looking for an opponent as with belts which are Kayla Plan David benefits they fight on with PBC and and obviously Danny assigned to disown so those are going to be the types of fights we're gonNA probably see him in if you yes there was for him to do in that way division there was no obvious fight for him no big huge money fight for him you know he's never Sad I wanNA stay away from the rest of my career I think even you I've seen Danny Jacobs against Chavez junior because junior doesn't try and fights anymore he's in name only fighter nobody cares about even the Mexican fans don't like him anymore because he didn't show December thirteenth before that I was supposed to be in October but I assume that that that we will see Danny in the ring before the end of this year and fighting in his class up against canal you know I'm not knocking Chavez junior because he lost the fight guys lose that's no problem no sweat but when you get in the ring and you don't give even a modicum of effort simply put himself into the mix given the fact that he's on his own there will be opportunities I would think in that way class to make some solid world title fights because a quality backup in place in case Chavez flakes out and can't be involved in the fight but in terms of Danny Jacobs he's been in camp he's getting ready for the most likely like you said December twentieth it was supposed to be I wrote about in like two months ago probably and for whatever reason it's still not signed yet and they're still deal that's not one hundred percent on on either side as far as I understand it but I suspect that we'll get ah like Gabe Rosado to it's just I like what he did in the last fight against macek celebrity where he knocked him down late in that fight and he made it exciting towards the end but against Danny Jay any of those guys in this Corner Chavez is is he's not at this age in the state of his career going to suddenly find dedication it's not gonna find you know suddenly the devotion when people get disgusted when you spend your entire camp just trying to make that way to cash your check and you don't try you know why should you get another chance in this caliber of a fight so you know I'm not sure what that there's certainly concerned about Chavez I think that one thing we're going to see and I wrote about this earlier in the week that that's a likelihood is that we'll see Gabor's auto on the to come in and really top notch effort I mean Freddie Roach was his trainer when he fought Sergio Martinez in their fight several years ago and four and will happen two thousand times again guys losing away class where they've done very well in when that happens you know it's time to see what you can do in the next week last above and so we moved up to one sixty eight Would you give Rosado any chance to Danny Jacobs no offense to gave once again I like no chance in that fight so you know I just don't I don't get the obsession get the title shot against the Saunders or Smith but in terms of his debut in the wake last after finally able to close the deal which avenging or which has been on the table Don but I know there's some there's always nervous when you're dealing with job is because nobody knows if he's actually going to show up and if he does what he's going to be on weight so they have to address those sorts of situations make sure they have is the fact that again billy Joe Saunders fighting on his own he has one of the Belts Count Smith is fighting on his own he has one of the belts so those would be presumably his targets the other two guys undercard and is kind of on standby Shabas comes in like one seventy four and can't doesn't doesn't show up as you said I mean he's nothing against Gabe who's given those names stand out to you any red flags there in your mind I was a little surprised with some of the selections to be honest with you years ago the thought was at some point he was gonNA move up to the next division you know when you lose that fight they can hello and you have struggled to make it you know it's like what has happened you know a thousand times yeah I think we need to see more Parker had not gone ill and was able to stay in the fight of sorts you know takes on maybe a little bit more of significance but Zora goes from being go to his apartment that they had formed they would move the couch out of the way and set up like a an area in the living room to simulate a ring I mean it was a joke if you watch the twenty four seven at Hbo did you see Ref so even though that was surprising you know I'm okay with that I think that's that's that's solid Russell Russell hope we'll do a very good job in that fight hey Freddie guy he's not they're not dedicated you know that's that's on on the fight or not on Freddie I'm with you there I let me run through a few things with you here to finish up in that fight they're gonNA have Julie Lederman Dave Moretti and dawn Trela as the judges for the Alvarez Kovolev fight does do any but he has been a good referee not not perfect obviously like nobody is obviously but you know giving him an opportunity to find like this you know I kinda like it I mean he's he's paid his We have the referee in the judges set for Cannella versus Kovalyov the Nevada Athletic Commission Bob Bennett as Chosen Russell Mora to be the referee remember speaking with Freddie after that fight and all he did was complain about the fact that Chavez win show up at the gym maybe showed up the gym barely a few days before that fight he would the obsession is with Jacobs fighting against trump. I don't really care about that fight and again Rosado exciting fighter been a lotta good fights but let's be honest it's a different level of fighter between Jacobson resign has been running the show on the commission where they will bring in out of state judges on a regular basis as well as out of country judges to work some of the bigger fights and Julie's been a tremendous judge you know a lot of effort and a lot of blood and all that over these years and with with China's that's a whole different but I don't know I have a hard time getting excited about no I mean Chavez junior could work with Freddy Teddy Allies Eddie Futch you know Buddy mcgirt Emanuel Steward you pick the great trainers you know you wanna put him in five of his land it'll be his fifth and his last spouse the only one who didn't work was the fight against rocky fielding because at their place in New York and and and already does most

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Terence Crawford WarnsJose Ramirez Be Patient, Young Fella Hell Give Him His First LOSS

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Terence Crawford WarnsJose Ramirez Be Patient, Young Fella Hell Give Him His First LOSS

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A- and you're ready to rock out with us because we got some good box, talk right here looks like terence. Crawford took to his social media after Jose Ramirez did an interview probably the same interview that we reported on not too long ago where Ramirez was. Stating. That he is willing to fight Crawford, when he moves up, but not to compare him to Crawford now and to give him the time to get to one forty seven, and you know, compare him once. He's at forty, seven and stronger so Crawford must've got wind of it. took to his. INSTAGRAM story. and Said be patient. Young fellow. Indu. Tom When you ready. I'll be right here to gladly handle your first. But then Jose Ramirez obviously noticed it. 'cause terrence added him. And you know He. Quote tweeted the story of Instagram reported reposted the story as you can see on a thumbnail. And he added his own to the bottom of the where he said I got him finish business at one hundred and forty, but once I'm done I'll be more than on to move up and challenge you. I'm also hungry, and he put the lion face so. I mean look They're doing what they have to do this. There's really no spins to this whatsoever. Quick Little News. Segment here on Crawford and Ramirez going back and forth. We all know this this fight is is anywhere. You know anywhere between two and three years from happening, you know. But I guess. It's good to see Crawford taken advantage of social media and got a report on this stuff. You know you gotTA. I gotTA. Let you know the Crawford wants all the smoke. And I gotTA. Let you know the Ramirez is looking for. More time, but we got some co hosts unlike the first shows them you head on out to them. I said that would say. Would, they say. Mattio what up! What up? Yemen? It's funny that we go to this right now. Because I did see Max, boxing today, or Max on boxing I should say and this was pushed heavily towards the end with Mark Kriegel thinks you say the last name and They had talked about this and we had talked about. This is specifically told Bob that I think this is the super fight in the waiting, but. The the spin they were put on his think that Crawford should actually go down to one forty to fight one of these guys or make a catchweight but it's just a long time. Still. You still got so much time before Ramirez fights postal and then fights Taylor. Sumit supposed to obviously, but you know that shouldn't be any trouble, but Yeah, we'll we'll. We'll chop it up. What do me. About quote. Chapman. Talking. Alexander Heath no Alexander I'm Beth. Never been to now. Was Fellas man apologize for this morning are being hampered my Kia. Gauntlett has ended to me is. Shares. yeah, man, what can I tell you? I feel as men spoke on this little while back mentioned this. How good how great it would be! You know in the yeah. I would definitely love to see this fight we we did mention that we would definitely want him to activate. As we always do it with any fighter. Move Up, so you know I won't be happening anytime soon, but you know by the time Ramirez is ready a how old and how you know how durable and still reactive of. Concur, be the same as as as the younger Crawford because you know. Time passes by and I, just don't know I don't know if. I'M GONNA. Give it like. In this stage right now. Let's say Crawford Eighty. Ninety. Percent Beats Jose like the couple years from now I don't know. I just don't know. Lie agree that it's It's so far out. That, we just don't know if Crawford will lose a step. Will take a loss. And we'll the same exact thing happened in Ramirez. It's not a given that he beats Josh Teller. The UK fans in the chat obviously are picking Josh to beat Jose. Ramirez, so he has so much to do right, so he's got to fight postal. Then, maybe they can hammer out a josh telephone pikers. Josh also has to fight his mandatory the Thailand God. Then like I said maybe they can hammer negotiations out then they got training camps. Build up then the fight, then some rest then, and is he ready to move up to forty seven? Who are we going to get them to fight forty seven? Does he just want one? Five forty? Seven is a to before Crawford, so Crawford is thirty two years old man. Can He. Kenny afford to wait two years for Jose Ramirez to get ready. I mean if we go to Danny Garcia. How many years did it take him? Before he was officially at one forty seven, you know. Are they going to rush Jose? WHY KEEP MAKING CRAWFORD WAIT? Get them older unit canal Cannella for triple thirty five. If you could get groping at thirty five, you're golden. Your Golden. Listen I. It's gotTa be stated that we're talking to the Taylor Ramirez winner because you know Ramirez the loan. It doesn't if he loses it, it defeats the purpose because look. We talk all the time about pound for pound and what that means. We even had a conversation, not that long ago about heavyweights, and whether they should even be nominated her pound for pound, because they can only fight in that division. We'll think about if you know Crawford where to go and move. move up from one one forty to one forty seven, and come back down the what that does for his legacy over the hopes of beating an old pack Pacquiao and I'm not saying that Pacquiao is in great right now, but you know I don't know if one avenue surpasses the other I think he gets just as much credit for beating the best at one forty after being the best at one forty. And coming back forty seven. Message. Bank says whoever wants to bet me whatever that Crawford gun beat the breaks off from Ramirez. It's going to be like how he did Felix as taps on the head, laughing Emoji so I just want to add that Crawford was thirty years old when he moved up it will. It happened in two thousand eighteen of June. You know when he fought. Jeff Horse over mirrors is twenty-seven so again if he takes two. Two to three years, you can't rush them because Crawford didn't get to welterweight to forty seven, and if he takes two to three years because he's trying to undisputed, you can't rush them because Crawford. Obviously, was undisputed undisputed listen just for context Crawford's last six opponents Ajami Lena Junior Julian Dong will soon be Julius and Dongo. Jeff Horn Jose Jose. Ben Evita's junior. Amir Khan in Egypt Jesus editor just CAV Alaska's. Ours last got good, that was a good one. so yeah so I. Guess You name those names. Tell us what the that that that that elite name is still yet to come or. No I'm just saying that's that's the context you know. This is because if he gets a Ramirez. Ramirez is a lot more accomplished in all these guys. You know. I'm just saying that's three years from now i. Can't say anything else, but just six. Check it out though two to three years from now, though even though we're in the pandemic, everything's been like Super Back I. Two years I mean it's GonNa Phase one of the other top guys I think that by then before before he gets before Ramirez tries to get a crack on him Chris, probably going to have. Gotten that fight that that that fight. I mean who? Is who until years I mean it could be anybody. Right could be the. Earl Spence Dan Garcia. Guards. I mean listen. There's so much any for. Over on that side that it could be like two years of great fights without any one of them fighting Crawford and I'm not saying that that's right, and not saying that's what I want. I'm just saying that PB, season a in a position that they could freeze this dude out for a long time. Let him get old. Vic. The money the money to be made won't. Blink. Dissolve those barriers that you guys. At School, but let's say in context right and and would facts. Danny is the mandatory to Turrell. It's two belts so when you're when you're assessing risk and reward. CRAWFORD, earl or equal risk, but there's more reward with earl because you got to belts, so that's easy to take Danny off the table for Crawford. And, then you're saying Pack Gal, I'M NOT GONNA. Take off the table. But you know that packbell picks you. You don't pick back out so I. Don't know you know what I mean you. You're mentioning names that. Probably won't get a shot, or he won't get a shot at them. But if you guys are watching us, too, don't forget the thumbs up with visibility. Show out, subscribe lets us know that you enjoy that. We come back numerous times a day. Today's our third time going live, so please if you haven't done so already. Subscribe to the Youtube Channel and help us get to that first milestone of one hundred fifteen thousand. Thousand Right now we're at one, hundred, fourteen, thousand, eight, hundred, ninety four, so we really right there just need a couple, a hundred and something more people to go ahead and subscribe in and get us to that hundred and fifteen mile mark man we've been on. We've been kinda going very slow. You know so. We need you guys to kind of join in and get us where we need to go, but Yemen That's my thoughts man. No those fights on are realistic doom. He's putting things in the air that are not realistic. I so so let me just ask you guys so there is no fight that he has besides Ramirez like. WHOA? So. It's, but that's what I'm saying I think this is the better route I'm not seeing that it's the route that I prefer more. I, just think that. If we're looking at opportunity, right and we're realizing that the PBC side might not be the opportunity right now for Crawford. Then, what are we building towards with? These Earl Spencer shows and these Earl Spencer conversations if they're actually just as good, if not maybe even better arguably opportunity for him to improve his pound for pound. By going and fighting the person who comes out the winner between Taylor and Ramirez, and and as far as money I don't know. The UK brings a lot of dollars Mexico Mexican. American brings a lot of dollars. You know. I obviously see that there's money in expense fight. Fight a third fight but I. don't know is, is there as much or maybe not that less amount of money on the line for him to fight you know the undisputed hundred and forty pound king. I think there. I think there's money for that I do. All right so I mean looking over the Lis- Jamal James is busy. With DeLorme. I let me see if I can. Put this here on screen shit. Give you guys box wreck. And their. Top? Whatever they got there. What is this? You got top twenty five showing him. Earl Spencer busy with Danny. Tara. About Regis breaches busy. Program is not, but he's looking for catchweight. I believe I'm sure given the right amount of money could give it to him, but. Honestly! Again. Again being realistic, right? Let's be realistic here. Are, we going to criticize Crawford if he finds Regis, pro gray, coming off a loss to a hundred and forty pound dude. Yeah, maybe unfairly I. Think it's a great fight I. Mean it's the first time my brain's ever considered the too so it's probably a little more excited thinking about it than it. SHOULD BE I agree. You're right I. think coming off the loss. It doesn't do for him what it would have done. Before the loss you go, I'm trying to say Oh I. Don't think I said that right I've been thought about it because if you remember, they had words right like Regis was saying Oh. Yeah, he was claiming Crawford was duck, and that's why he was moving up. And that's the thing like that. That energy doesn't fit anymore, so we need to rebuild that allure. Yeah, go ahead and. Go ahead and become the rag rule again. Go Pete Sergei lipping nets. And then I'll be ready. For that if you can't fight Sergei. Right because you're Lou. Maybe TERRASSA fight surrogate. Now I'm resear- would have been great. In terms of a leading into a Crawford fight now surrogate Libyan nats. Where are you Sergei? I think he's at twelve twelve right, so get been yet, is that? He has had to three welterweight fights not on that level. But Eric Bony, we at least know him he. He lost a porter. Lamont we know him. He Lost Matisse in Earl and Danny. And I have no clue who's Jay nor incident I never. But, This is a decent name. He's not accomplished. Much I. Think the biggest when he got his lead to cannon maybe. Not, even sheesh. Oh. I thought he'd be slapped. Cannon, no! Alright so the biggest win is Lamont Peterson. When did he get Peterson right after EARL EARL After Earl. Okay I mean. It's. We'll put that on the side. That's not a bad name. But it is the let you know. We'll see if it becomes being the best of. The Best of the best or the best of the rest. So. You Got David Evans in there. I don't even think there should be an option Is Out of the picture fisher out of the picture he took. He took his fight with able Rommel's announced it on his instagram this morning. He's going able Rommel's route. Who almost as an event in here? Whereas Rommel, on box wreck bro? In I'm saying. Ho said I'm. Able. Able rambles. I don't say them anywhere probably got a few of them. They don't even go Wu guys fight registered on boxer. I get, but. Jesse Vargas. He's coming off the Mikey Laws Dan. Yeah brand. You know you know Abrams, good or no, no, no I. You know I. Know You know Bryant Parrella yes. so that was his last fight he he did it. TKO The tenth Brown. He's Francisco Santana. Able able is You know what you call yourself a little journeymen. He lost the Jamal James here. Majority -sition down decision. Hey! He beat she Santana. Brian Burrell all those are two good winds? See what else he got. He got either. What's wrong with Jamal? Joe Montana? We Lost Ivan andbranch. He region program I may look. Program knocked the out brand. Check couldn't Emmanuel. Roma research gotTA. Draw with them there. You go so I mean I mean. Maybe maybe he's door boy. He looks like he's been given the good guys. A tough fight Jamal James went ten majority brand. Check when ten you know. And he knocked out, but in the last round of ten, so we'll see. We'll see it's. It's all guys title. Fight Interim Championship online, but back to Crawford I think. QUADRA TULIP DOER car off Brandon from Cincinnati recommended. He's the guy that beat Luis Collazo last look. He hasn't even fought though since October of last year. And that was over Collazo, and honestly I don't think this kid member our saying the Collazo was going about the stop them, and then you know he couldn't because of the it was like accidental headbutts and Collazo's I was all beat up oh. Yeah, I, remember. Collazo was putting the pressure on. This kid is just that like his body's built like a kid. He's five. Eleven, five nine and a half, and look cofferdam already took off his. Crawford I got Crawford. Is a five eight seven seven four inch reach. Five all right. That's not bad Quadra, truly same hypo I promise you. Quality truly looked so small and that fight. He looks more compact like his arm short right, but I mean look again. QUADRA too low. I would invite them. If I'm Crawford, I would rather fi Sergei. He's more known than than Quadra low to lows. No. D.. Almost what was coming off a loss key kavaliauskas already be hosted. Saito Lopez these criminal laws, but that's a good fight. We actually got the John Molina win so then so then he might get some credit. You see because if it was like. He's coming off of that Keith Thurman Laws Maybe not, but people have already been calling for us to see. Get Shot, but also see those another has fallen almost a year in an a main so again best of duress best are the rest of now. We got three options with Lipa yet quadra too low. And or CPO, those are good options DeLorme as busy Figueroa coming off a loss. Rommel's busy whittled. Guys Ortiz Busy Samuel Vargas. Butin his popped. He's dirty for Mel still top option with that belt. Bell Man is registered right as you can see international boxing organization welterweight title. He has in four. Yeah, he did fisons since two Lonnie Mental. He fought this year and he got a unanimous decision. This dude got one hundred and forty five rounds box. He's been going decisions you know. But again. For Crawford and his team which takes Beaumont? He had told me to take some, and now he S. I don't know. But For Crawford and his team. Lipin yet is more known than Formula Quadra too low. Also see takes the cake for all of the most a fight with victor in Barklay where you're upset the applecart. Then he had a fight with Canelo. So Ho- seat. Though is the name right now. He's at the top. It's supposed to see Sergei. Sebastian for Melania Quadra to low that order. The see what else we can pick up. Ray Robinson deserved it, so it's too late to go back and give it and what I mean by. That is ray. Robinson really beat. Kavaliauskas. But didn't get the decision so they should just gave it to him in an I mean because it's trainer. His own of MAC is on audio. Saying you know. The guy didn't even beat a man. He got to give decision draw. Don't even know why we fight him, so he said that on air, so it's like you should just do the got draw the win. The fight to Lonnie. Man's did get win. Since the, but that's that would have been rerouted since what third loss! Raise always in a tough five, but that would have been. That's true. That would have been. I meant to ask how many losses he has. How many losses he's got three welcome. No He's in. He's he's a guy or the up like. I mean we're not registered but I and whatever Brasov alleman who virgil t's just knocked out. He beat Ray Robinson Shawn Porter beat Ray Robinson. And press got no. You guys knocked them out. He's the only one to knock him out nice. And like that okay and quadrant. Got The draw and Kelly got the draw. Those are two robberies, too by the way he both of fights. The Kelly fight that was that was young. That was sad and cadillacs was set, but he ain't done. System draws. You Ain't faces June. We wouldn't give Crawford no credit for Ryan Emery Robinson at all to Lonnie. Men Jane ffices the loss to form MELA NS Saint Ready Kelly would he didn't since he ain't ready anyway, he ain't ready anyway. they. You know you know Eddie won't put. Van here he's been saying it Bro and heard in an interview today with Jerry Cornish you know. What's the big? The heavyweight from New York for. George. Gerry, Cooney, Gerry Cooney Gerry Cooney they had bob. Arum on the show and Bob said that they bring back Crawford in the end of the year. He I think he said. Amy Van Heerden no looking to bring back Crawford. But, what are you talking about here for tying and again I'm I'm sorry, I'm sorry knows all good because Van Heerden. If you go to social media, he's been posting it. He's been also more easily shit. Straight up. He's been on his more easily. He you know he feels like. You know. He deserves the opportunity. But what has he done since then? Not much in Maine. He's all nondescript dues I never heard of as on a five fight. Win Streak a all of them decisions. I think except for one do and. It's all decisions and he. He got a majority decision with Stephen Clagget. Bre who who's from Canada, who he should have knocked out, but then look at these names. I can't pronounce not one name after Steve. Yeah. They get pretty talkie. She cockatoo. Thinking Sacchi Sacchi Khuda. She! Sha, cou could to should coo. CMO. Looks like he's, he's related. Wards was the Tyson fury four. Oh Yeah y'All listen button, Maroney Montas, but the way to sell this fight. Islamic the way that you saw this by I'm not saying I'm happy with this I might even do one or two shows clown in this fight, but. The way that yourself satisfied is with the earl loss. This summer whereas. Whereas our laws right here earl. Spencer Laws Michigan Shaggy. So, Van here in Los. Earl you know so. It's Abou how how good Crawford Do. Earl did it at fifty four. Crawford. Do it at forty seven. Url did it in eight. How many rounds could Crawford do it? But that's this is where we're at brother. This is where we're at Van Heerden and output then here in right after. For MELA. Quadra Trillo keeps dropping down. He's not known. CASTILLE CLAYTON DOESN'T HAVE A. Win Or an American television win. So. It's hard to sell him so I'll put him right a right under. The, guy we just mentioned who we just mentioned. We mentioned. It yes, so after Kris. Goes. Kristiyo then Quadra too low. an and I think that's it man. We've run out of options unless they do an anthony juice young, but he's got losses I. Don't know if as he fought since Saddam Molly, he has gone. He has not so that's June. He hasn't fought since June of last year. But he got that big upset. Win over Saddam Ali so they. CA- show highlights of Saddam, upsetting Koto and then juice upsetting. Saddam and then sell the fight with Crawford. But I mean we're like that's number. Forty rank right forty, so we're D- D-. I would stay with the first five names. We mentioned so far we got. Number one top option was. Host to see told Lopez. Number. Was! Remember chat killing bad I was looking at this Is fully end extended? Fight number two I guess this for Mala. And then three. In. Four QUADRA too I. Think I'm missing one Doodo. Number One Hoses, Seato Number Gallison. Number two for me because he got the I B O number three Clayton because he's undefeated coming from Canada that's about all we could scrape up for him looks to part though physically he'll look good on the poster in in the face off, you know and then Quadra too low rounds off the last position because you know he's. He's he's. He's the most unknown out of all of them. But that's that's the options I mean. This is like I, said it was just a little quick breaking news. Let you know that Ramirez firing back at Crawford Crawford. Definitely coming at Ramirez and and and this is off realistically. Why would a fight with Crawford Yeah? And I'm what I just wanted to. Because they're making so much of the colosio fight with With, what's his name Alexander? Whatever or not I mean what's it? Yeah and I'm watching again and he's getting his brains bashed in who late collazo's beating him like A. He'll be. He's going to be beating worse to the body, but that I man. It's the I broker. Collazo never could get a break. Bro Never could get a break. This is crazy. They're showing Jamal hearing right now. We've got Jamal scheduled for tomorrow Wednesday at. Eleven thirty. Eleven. Thirty Torch Jamal James and see how he's doing, but yeah man I guess final thoughts. Those, are you five options Bob? You know you got yourself. A good hostess Seato Lopez. He's been arraigned. Got The win over Victoria. Tease upset special in Barclay Center then he got the big fight. WH- canal across the street from Sergio Martinez and Hulu. Cesar Chavez may history with that, and then he gave a damn good account of himself versus Keith Thurman. You know in between there. They could pluck out, highlights with him and Madonna where he was beating me Don until he got knocked out. He's a decent fight. I mean he's not young. He's not young at all, but he's a decent fighter and he's ranked number eighteen on box, right. I don't know that any sanctioning bodies gotTA rank I should double check. That does anybody have? The rang, but you know. Yeah. I mean you know. He fought in September, so it's still a lot of time more for seats as well. So yeah, I'm looking. I don't see Lopez on these rankings. Yeah. He's not rank poor porchet. Shit! Note! That's all goes number nine. Nov WBZ. Hosted see. Lopez. Dan Took Sebastian for formula out the WBZ over Ankara's Damn. He again no shot at corporate is over he and IBM number NAS formulas. QUADRA moved up to six in WBZ. All right well, that is Dan. There's someone you are. WHAT THE HELL! Let me Google this there is someone named Karen. I don't even I. can't even Peninsula last name in the world today? Rank as the WBAL? Find Out. Of the WB, what and is an Karen's definitely a man from the Ukraine from Chevy, Ukraine? How'd even as is less than? Wait what which one was the WB always a area. Oh! Yes, can you catch Vian? Cool Taiji. Chuck Couve. never heard of him chuck. Who had seen. A trial? Man. That's GTO instagram. Actually. We've got a few calls. I'M GONNA. Go out to anybody on the line. If you guys want to rock out, let us know real. Quick final thoughts are. That's my top five hosted CTO Lipietz's Sebastian for formula custodial Clayton Quadra too low Abdur quarter off. That's it. Yeah listen I. Really don't even care as long as they have a plan. And that's all this is to me with the Taylor Ramirez. Stuff is finally having a plan a plan that they can control and because they can't control what manny does, and nor should they. They can't control it. Earl does Thurman or Garcia any of them, and they all have each other anyway, so just I just WanNa plant as long as it leads to some sort of big fight between the winner of Taylor Ramirez I'm all for it. I saw. Let me go out to these sponsors and then get to these calls. You know the number to call in one, two, five, five, six, nine, fifty to forty one press one one time voice your opinion of which it'd be bought line. Remember to rate his five stars on I tunes. These calls are brought to you by El Camino. Experts in electric vehicle charging stations for consultations and turnkey installation. visit us at El Camino. Electrical Services Dot, com. All right look like Stephen Chicago up. Hey. WHAT'S UP Yeah you know. I I was thinking about the names you were saying. Now me, the fan and me I would like Lopez. Bought a farm ESPN. I would take for Melania, and they were. They would hype the shit out of that as some of unification. Of Reassess Pin I think for Melo would make the most sense as far as attracting more viewers. They could really hype that on social media and like at some type of. You know unification. What do you think? Heck I've been calling for went through lining needed to shop man poor guys out there like an Africa somewhere that that title shot would have did them some justice. That's all I got. All right go to the Commissioner Sodhi what up! Looking like just listening, we got Brandon Cincinnati. What up. Sony would up. Guess not. We do. About the Jose Ramirez, but were we just talking about like six eight months ago? About how these fighters? We was given Crawford Shit about fighters coming up to face to me. He's making them look horrible than all of the sounds. We just stowed at back at Crawford like. why are you fighting like? Why are you breaking up fighters? The fights you so do you really think Jose Ramirez could be a good fight down the line. If you do us, choose to move up to forty seven to three years from now. Yeah, he got a lot of businesses. You know that's what I'm saying. He he not ready, you know. Definitely not in does what I made. I guess I don't know why you talk to a fighter that you don't expect to see two or three years down the line for now. Honestly he didn't talk any mess man. He was actually very polite and said. I got unfinished business I one forty, but once I'm done I'll be more than honored to move up and challenge. You I'm also hungry. And he put a lion fish so like you know first of all, he said honored. Secondly, he said challenge not beat you, so he's. He's showing all the respect across. It has definitely respect channel a yoga for the show much love. Already, Brandon Cincinnati. s like you just do to line vans like that. Four for. Africa somewhere starving. He could've used their shack. He could have brought. Here's from Africa. I'm I'm the check it out I'm pretty sure he's from Africa. Why is you like these? Key with a fly on its face from the feed, the children commercial so. Easy you, you'll I follow instagram channel of like the African boxing channel did breath ABC's doing power dirt man. Is later way you said it is from south. Africa from Cape South Eastern Cape South Africa though. Is that any better? In south. Africa's Pretty I think that's one of the more I guess wealthy parts of Africa South Africa. onto the topic man at this point. Buddy do what everybody else do thank business spurs. We always pressure bud. Derby great, but these cats could do as best as far as business goes. A. May perfect example Gusman. He's by neighbor Rommel's. One forty pounder. We got stopped by progress. Full a fake bill. Rather than trying to be great. Book. He got to receive an offer to try to be great. They gotta send them something like right now. The fight's not even on box wreck, PBC and announce it yo. Bob needs to send off like Yo. Take this. I don't know what you think is fair. For five hundred. Whatever whatever I don't even know what cities as man because you look at your a seventy five thousand four title shot I will. You could never told me that I would never go to believe that. Like I said man everybody else thinking business firs. Bush start thinking business. I don't dare to be great. Forget that they would everybody else doing. But that's my call man looking forward to is we still have beautiful young Leon show tomorrow, Yes sir, seven PM. She's on a some fifteen. Backlash received from a Patriarch Conrad I'll go hand believe it makes them Corny Shit like stone ball. Tom Back to that. Woman at Walmart. Is that Corn Shitty saying? That's not. Get. I guess a little too package so I'm going to. Ask Call. Rate, you sent her a message that was like meant for the DM's. It was inappropriate. It was just like it shouldn't abyss something that we all saw. Exactly, but we're going to seven or four. North Carolina wooded do. What to do. Something I couldn't show early tonight or coming back Mandeville what's going on? I mean you know like that to me wasn't worth philosophy chatman. Like Jose Sabbarra! And evinces he's like the coal main like this this this is thrown fight. Chat right here. You know saying from the bed. We're. Now all know y'all down the plight new pile. Sounds a lot report. supposedly a lot of fibro. What now? They say wilder fired really what I seen only a couple of. Reporters Water as fire-breathing. No you got begin that soon next couple of days, but I wanted to throw that out there. If you'RE GONNA, find out with Ale going on with that. College out in the morning there i. That would be definitely news especially after so many people call for him, not firearm right. we'll see but That is the last caller man catches on next one as GTO, instagram and twitter We'll be back tomorrow morning. Peace. And, Twitter, abnormal Yan Graham see in the morning, Persia, so we got super. Tying gets with my bad elvis. Man I didn't even open up forgets open it up. We got looking by. Derek. Lincoln says sorry, but I don't WanNa see Crawford fight another unproven fighter at welterweight. He needs to fight a PC fighter period to get any respect at one forty seven. I hear you champ You know actually you know. So, Coney says. The eventual matchup, Taylor versus Ramirez a pay per view. I doubt it maybe if they I don't see how I don't see how it's paper view like tells now from over here and Ramirez. Ain't got a big enough American win. He didn't get that. Win like his win was to tell on zone like. He needs that win take I. Don't no I I think we need a way and see to what. What that win does. To the career of each guy, you know what I mean one of them's going to get the win theoretically and I know I think we gotta wait and see just like you said. Don't judge me off of where I'm at right now. Judge me off of two years when I'm when I'm there I think he could be a star by then NFL star that makes it a view. I don't know if you heard it though because he said Tele Ramirez is a pay per view so what I'm saying. Even on so I thought he said is winner of I'm so sorry, my bed I heard that wrong, because even if we go of what you're saying, we still need to watch that fight to see the pay per view. star emerges. Yeah, exactly exactly I'm sorry. I entered the wrong question. Yeah, no I. Don't think it is pay per view right now. I, don't. Me We got an elite or You got the thing pulled up. If not, I got a mold, not try to pull it, because what happened was I closed it on accident or to pull something else and now won't pull up anything but the last one. This is a no on a wrong place plus three thirty three thirty. Jonathan Sims what? We've had me you hear me. Yes, we can brother. I mean know. Put My foot in I'm not I'm not too that the options you gave forrest Crawford. It is what it is man like this is the boat he put himself and my newsroom, saying I would it was that called and say you can't believe that is fighting for regular versus fighting for bud, and it's like grow, you act as if the money fight. He's a legacy, finders, no money fighting, but so of course if I'm on fighting that do and then possibly after so I got more chips for bargaining. Think business breath. You just think fanatic. I don't even understand how there's enough money for Lopez called alone. I, don't understand how there's enough money for low and Lomb, but you'll have enough money to put Crawford of Nice piece of steak on the table. You Got Sean Porter Hell. Go fight boots. Marie took her to the table. You know what I'm saying is just like y'all y'all just want these scraps for I mean you don't want to fight scraps within y'all WanNa, call him a great fighter like it was so great. He really need to create his own lane at this point mover. Get That W., B., o. possibly unify moved down. Take. Whoever took his. Like. It's time for him to create his own lane instead of waiting for stuff to come to Bro, you can fight, but you're not marketable. You not a big piece of steak like there's no money and finding you, so why would i? Like big time named guys. This fight you on your on your quarter doesn't make sense, and it's like people don't want to ignore that because of his skill set. Yes, he's a great fighter, but that's it like he's. He's not bringing a lot to the table. Call out wrong or like there's a lot of options, but it's like he wanted to sit at the top of the hill, and for people will come to come to him. Go make your way you a hustler. Go out there and Hustle and get the job done and create so way like follow the the green, the blue or the Green Trent the money prick from floyd like. I. Did I really just don't get it? It's not making sense we'll pass is brought to fight Loma, but you ain't got enough money to put this pace importer to fight, but like it just doesn't make sense I. I don't get it, but that's my color. All right all right. Good Call Man, go rant! Happy that we're here to give you the place to definitely get it off your chest I. We lead slow decastro quick. You say boots. I doubt he said boobs is okay, but I. Thought I thought I caught that Mogi. I see someone else and boots. Decatur Georgia talked to me. was in. Out. In The last Cat Riga quit. So, you say make your own way when I ain't that will doing bro. Bud Doorway. He want to do and not do them with everybody doing so again Geena Bud, man on understanding and he's all right. You near Saudi? You see how you were sitting there, trying to figure out or opponent for. Now, imagine how field? Kenny, looked over and. He ain't nobody trying to do that. So? It's like we got that's. Also. To See toes, PBC Okay well, we'll take him a fan. You'd be taking like I said I always say it really don't Matter Louisville, but we'll. We'll take low pressure. Keep keep being what round. I think he was. Yeah. Stop Them. I'm thinking when it's well. Located but yeah that my mind shot out five pound number one but. All right. Well that seems to be everybody now for sure. Let me just doubled. Yeah, it was a majority decision perfect I was actually a few clicks away, but ness GTO instagram and twitter like I, said just a little quick breaking news felt like it was worth it and it looks like it was. Peace. Among the on twitter push.

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Prograis v Taylor Open Workout

Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

1:13:31 hr | 1 year ago

Prograis v Taylor Open Workout

"Hi This is David Diamante and you're listening to the to-to-to podcast podcast breath Johny first of all how would you fancy coming here for workout fight week trying to make white the raw delicious smells and food stores absolutely everywhere for this week's edition of Ringside Toe to toe boxing podcast brought you exclusively by skysports I'm undeclared and they were out and about where it's battlefields Mark Komo and he wants to keep that way well it's a fantastic five it's a mouth-watering fight and another one that the chiefs support to Zora against price of twelve his wife is to to his kids coming out here as well this week nobody no fighter that really believes that it's GonNa pull it something like this off shout semi onto the card and draw a number of fifty fifty fights on the card I think you look at look at burn sal originally two zero Parker of course and then Polka Bilal a few weeks ago in price stepped up and took and we we took it to Joe McNally last week team for the Oakland were accounts ahead of Sunday night's pay per view and scarves supports boxoffice headlined of course by reaches pray against Josh Taylor and without chief support provided by Derek Seora case David price plenty to talk about and see with a finest join me to kick things off Johnny Nelson Amount Matt Clinton he's at the top of time coming through so he remembers being skin remember having of new members how is to be chasing so he loves them relishes his position Get such a win is going to bring you don't often kids you're not going to bring such a squad over that's a big indication of conferences well he's demeanor when we've done the gloves okay Gabu look to price and then top of the Bill Taylor and you could put all the votes in that category let's start with the top of the bill looking forward to it too skilful South Poles but to sideboards that can sit in the pocket and fire as well I think he's going to be a brilliant far really I don't see Ross demeanor when he's he's done any or anything like that it's very cool it's very just edgy but Taylor's actually while they're both edgy education account unfortunately that's what is when the pressure is on when when he's distressed when you're going through second wind stage that's questions himself and that's unfortunate when wheels fall off Tis now to me it's going to be my one desire and it's going to be out breeding on I know project he's he's gone he's had a hard time he's very confident and you know I actually think this fight but then the parking lot Tony Alpha prices say is going to go two and a half weeks notice as far disappointed that's all interesting johnny to is that pro-christ been reactive since he got over here three weeks I've been told Montaigne they've been staying in a long time Derrick or somebody's very familiar with someone it's not awkward I think he'll be quietly confident against us I think it's important that he gets his job going gets gets trying for another phone anyway I actually think price is a better technical fighter then she's all prices problem is is Hana's and we've seen that life this time for for for personal reasons he said I've got to stay home I wanna stay home so fame to do that again whole team coldwell down to London but date couldn't do it and the rumor is these become training himself always difficult snow what the truth is with me applause stub in east London near the peacock and they unload to press npr what if you made the things he's also bringing over to where he's gone light into a fight dominate behind the job I bake develop really so he's confidences is high as it's been for she full rick I think this is a good time for him you know I think if you from the the loss against per Vecchi I think even though he got knocked out Nah I think he took over so Matt Wedgie prices had his out these days I think the winning silent did him a lot of good we saw him after later that night after the show finished and he was he was he's GonNa he's GonNa Guess you start to look a little old in between movements and between tax but he still dot guy you're going to get to to get get beyond his the fights and they were keen to continue that relationship but Derek needed to be in London for this company wanted to come to London he offered to to move the whole county a lot of time but it's not like day Eliza thirst like a rolling stone and he makes anywhere he's home I was surprised and impressed the fight night took him away from home on the cards I mean it was a good performance so I I really don't at some point higher many times Zora keep going to the well I don't think he probably they at this level here I think it's well an evening match like you know I said good even tonight I do like it so let's cruises because unusually Jamaica that will fall to undefeated well champions both stealing proven as well I don't think oh the guy or even in their peak yet this is this is a great even Gabu defending European champion Belgian fighter he actually tries Yo Jim he tried to the Saito Mesozoic Toubon with with dominic angle has done confidence Kim Rockville bit and then on the back of that because men but again it was there was an injury since then he's had a few wins and of course the Allen one in particular I'm putting yourself up to Rotherham to try dave this stage in his career think of it you think an ambitious young fight on the way would do that to make such a commitment and leave your family no no no I'm not a great time especially mid week just two days before you gotta wait because this is the time when the fire is a struggling if you're struggling to my way which had sitting rooms implies all this week when it comes to make the way we set an absolutely great set the crowds here especially in the summer perfect place to be commitment again remember these two guys a stage in their career where when they get to a certain level the bean exposed in so therefore many new tricks he just needs direction these calming down in Isa a game planning what he's doing but when he comes getting fit and training himself especially for this fire confidence and settles into the fight and I mean you're the unknown quantity in this fight is they resorted got left he was with a long Awkward Lower Cola whose Oakley as how when he fights but he gets the results done but e is accounting is very strong a commitment so we'll have to we'll have to we'll have to leave the podcast is like the kind of the awful told you're always just skulking about just picking pockets and picking guess where we come before test what he's got we've never seen a really good technical beaten delivered from a corner but a call it gets the job done won't win or another how the become the madhouse how the house works person I think AIDS small for the way crews away and especially getting me and Scott Lee Selby it's an interesting match up this because rookie struggle to get fights because I think for lots of fighters the savage his job on lump sum hard straight right hands and keep you might range be trusted volume so what about the training situation Johnny because he was with Coldwell for it comes down to the Soviet workout not royalty I think it's probably fantasized Kevin former chopping coastal British champion. We'll talk challenge so sit nothing pogo very tough obviously a quite far bothersome seem being way too clumsy for Josh Jamaica this main event there's been a bit of ground swell towards pro cry from what I can sell over the last week maybe related to all of the major stuff that he's been doing how wild now but not probably slid under the raid office on people so tell us about him he's about a year year and a half he's blended him very well that too that but he needs to put him under pressure and the problem is because the call this toll long range in Oakwood I think he's going to struggle because a call they sooner is going to separate the heavyweight we think now he's out without we hope now he's over he's over that do not be surprised if practice when bought doctor's orders is relentless he's he's he's powerful he's going to and compete comfortably heavyweight because he has a size to do it okay so matt's always going to get you on ricky bones against Lee Selby but youtube being dragged away it's Benjamin Button is a show is Jim shows them out I I already works is unbelievable as they get dropped off to do more important smash and grab smashing drive that's the name of the game so we'll let you go but we'll we'll be catching you again so I just bumped into Kevin Mitchell I think I can do is enough but I'm GonNa like the lights of David Hey overseen love I'll be on the phone today called on the one I'm doing and then it's about his personal all day even though he was the European champion so they're expecting big things of him but he's going to test his motto is is endurance God I think there was a kind of guy where he more or less does it himself it just needs direction when he's in the gym he's got an age now where I'm calling I'm quite sure you don't want to be able to I used to buy two years ago you know not any just keeps defiant you know the attack yeah he's definitely swarmed all over posing had the back surgeries just I mean talk he's going to try and stick to his chest I think this is the best paper test a cold is going to have a cold is right and appropriate in every company Fox from the way up you would fancy his name on your record that upbeat dream but no one's been not comfortable to step up and actually fight him as who can message of jump up into whites and some Cubans it's a big job lazy quite file a thinking is too long one one white would have been and these vicious it gets the job done that too and that's why I like about Josh other fighters on the bill who really really well one is one is ricky bones and he's aware and familiar I think just could imagine I like I think these two that both your kind of Pfizer on there in a way maybe particularly Taylor because Uh of abortion the gym abortion close in the in the ring of also been he's very small it's very slick and he's a fresh young twenty to impress is is is an older man I'm so we've been there and done it jumped up to which is massive like hugh he's an intelligent book Sir but he's fishers yeah that's exactly I swat lock about Joshua's is quite box in buying he's accused unbelievable so undersea IVA coupons Selwyn I at goes ahead as we left off another one that's on the bill from the Monitoring Jaber Courses Corner Ben this constant debate as to how good people think conor can go on to be it was one of those guys looked old for wall then he just these performances even the billion why I now we got not that but he was they won't do very well in this flat so he's not not a young coach he's from world champion at a at a level white jumped up a couple of weeks up to up to lightweight backstage just upstairs above the ring spittle fields market we bumped into Lawrence Coach always a pleasure he's just been talking through his he's clothing deal and the intricacies even Gaba you had a good look at the press conference a few a few weeks ago you just come up fairly close to him a few minutes ago what are your impressions of in by leaps and bounds stronger and stronger and then he's lost for up to a struggle Lebron majorly is up and his game Tony The pros and Cape Fitness and it'd be what next to the next to the station is the location of the actual premises now just a few things so I think we've been six months that's really interesting so whereabouts green them because that's not starts that's prime boxing territory repton style by your calls down there yeah we'll we won't be won't be too busy yes yes and so on the business side Lord Chief got a very interesting fight on Saturday challenging flat European tightly gates then showed them from here got another level income level what you bake inaugurals comeback I to say that he's physically on the short side for cruiser about six foot race stock yeah so I mean I'm sure people about maybe known as physically I chief where she stunned on it could quite for our first then we had breakfast when he first comes in and it was eighty to impress and cutler is now co champions we're not really I'm young in the game I'm working at Pixar in the west end of loch paper open on Sussex Hey really looking forward to that cavaliers could see enjoy the fossil Saturday night and we'll catch mind games with ye what went when he says that he feels like he's physically stronger fan you is is that you feel that might be a trick to try and get you to enough jumping jumping on to whites as big ask them that's what makes this sucks saw nothing it could be a bounce on a big way I'm year young folks we got beat me he's just unbelievable roughing Mike Gavin why we said we can't white towards flies can be really I like he's actually saying mid range I mean foreign combinations he's very good in bus he's good but I'm very close range the he's not I don't think he's an impressive on that's what's on that I'm from long range she won't be able to live with me so it's it's interesting the Strip stock on Chester Chester you won't be able to always built to be monsters in my head until he gets a five week and then I remember that all humans you know and that accordingly is while I think you're both in the top fifteen with all four of the sanctioning bodies which is quite which is quite unusual and and this was a fight where one it got made both if you wanted to try proven wrong in a fight he won't both whoever's CICCONE not life I decided to our let him know that he's not on my level physically on more money will have fun just give us a quick update on what your up to trading fantasies of course yeah I'm twenty four Tony's blatant what he does believe we could try and the best thing about by watching corner get better than bell ended up moving then stand down with us off the first ball dinant he's coming bundled since I moved the morand spawning looking for him as well as just not giving him if I decide to go on they basically there's no put there's no place in the way he's bad I mean like I've watched him the WBZ international title you've no not back any kind of a fight I think it's a mix match monop- inspiring heavyweight for years and it's very anyone's able to out muscle me so we'll see when you look at the rankings I feel that the people that are books they have a carrot dangling in front of them which is Boston on Sky Sports high profile more money than they might usually for me it's about what kind of stuff just about progressing climate rankings and winning fights so because of that I've been able to win like bread four long and people will say well not so quickly that's just how I live think three Oh everything's compact so it'll be different in a sense spot Boston sure people music to five so I'm used to not you know what I mean you think he's may be tried to play a few listen to what would have been about so awesome friend of mine which are divided anything does also pull in everyone I just need to keep winning and recognize myself like I get to look myself in the mirror and local I've done the factors this is going to be my fortieth career taunus officer in pitches and videos he does look I'm does quite solid on public to procreate so far that you've that you've got the recognition that you've deserves because as you said that you've won the British Tartu on the Commonwealth title twice as it turns out I'm here and I'm still young ongoing twenty six I've still got many years of improvement and damage to do so he part of course with what if you may defend as often as we look so I because is a former world champion is been himself is not as busy young gun straight away so it's not always the case the big fights are easy to make the are not definitely by four like on my career on Kinda push for soft lot well much him USA fighter people familiar with your work how you enjoyed it because you've been here for a good while now really high output sounds keep but then I remember mccray justice just as what he's very good looks very dangerous in sparring a professional and that much so I'm happy with myself I'm another MIRA as welcome to McDonald's all this could have been very different Eight I gotTa make way turnaround you know what I mean figure out what I'm eating stuff like that I've been able to really just sit back and enjoy the atmosphere and live in London also career I'm loving it this is my first international trip ever so for me to be able to go to another country and actually live there and really feel that I'll say the member saying years ago back in ninety five Alessandro Panacea no evidence automation's not more pay you for your art we all know that boxing such art it takes so much dedication days like that to have their respect from a crow is some net Komo of titles very quickly so I think that's why did I get married same way off stuff on this novel looking you see me going for a while todd the CFO like far away from a fight everyone's big I'm a big I'm not he's talking normal night one K.. Though as we get closer to the I mean being able to share the ring with guys like that it just ensures you that you are supposed to be at the next level you are supposed to be going for world champions ships and things like that and next couple of years so my experience overall has been phenomenal another real experience you had last week was was ringside or soya across the ring at the new okay rain renewed support was electric I mean people show just as much love to the winner as they go to the loser and that's that's the respect that people oh boxers dream about United States more so about the winner I'm no loser actually gets ridiculed and clowned but here in the Newcastle they respect got to be able to work with the number one UH supermiddleweight Neuro Callum Smith and NASA outstanding experience for me and boxing is levels to it and then on I'm looking forward to these fire will always thanks very much always a pleasure to to get you on the podcast and Austin Williams Williams ammo that fire to get your local community behind you and then also like I said you still dealing with sharing tension and things from other other Sagawa came down to the peacock chat with would see procreate and yourself tariffs celestial or over here on uses sparring partners for for region you're on the bill is van's a show give something to go home and be buzzing about things like that so Dan Experience was outstanding for me it is slightly different here because doug necessarily in the US is offer that's very fair because of the United States is so huge we have a lot of different sports that are big time and you're mckinney trains trains Josh Taylor as well you've been with him day in day out for the last few weeks how say he looks like he's he's a real work welcome everybody other sports basketball huge American football Hughes Golf that's US ten is huge track huge in Oh so it's so explain yourself I don't know much about football and I'll be honest about that but what I do know is that Muhammad Ali fought in the Arsenal stadium organization pushing them that everybody's familiar with and things like that and even if they do it's still up to them to market themselves and things of that nature so it's very hard to catch them they see two fighter as exactly what they are a true true inspirational person and they give you the respect that she deserves so I really WanNa Find Newcastle on and get a visual you're your own entity as a boxer and you don't have a big organization pushing you I mean I have Matra but I'm talking about the majority of fighters they don't have a big eighteen sixty six so I like to capitalize on the history that I do know and then I'm in London so I know I do have some supporters in some fans at the Arsenal team the UK people love and as football. So you know I just know that I knew it would be a great conversation starter and I knew that people were not that I'm trying to you know really it's very hard to catch that flame and get that true local support but once you do it's it's amazing in the United States I'm always decked-out in in an awesome let's see there's reasons for that I've had a couple of having caught file but ultimately I'm a win on I'll go out and do I thought my recognition I don't need it is a similar country for star and things are quite tribal the northeast for example Joe Laws you saw in the in the float fight four rounder. Am something appalled on his job very well thanks you saw gould into a seat next just but during his his workout here respectful failed sand yeah so you a couple of weeks atmosphere filled the coulter filled the food the differences it's been a a pleasant experience for me rather than coming Eddie her and giving him one week before the fire and that's why I decided to put it on I also knew it was the spark a lot of conversation amongst the people whether they liked it or not you know I'm a merging myself with something that seven and now sells hundreds and hundreds of tickets I think maybe the local area can get behind that Pfizer here in a way the that the how much I'm pro I don't care and I'm competing for Europeans hot all been in an MP and you can champion as I'm Chalk I've done soft moving forward also what did you what did you make of men that was an outstanding experience Newcastle somewhere that I want to fight the atmosphere was electric saluting all of a sudden but nothing happens is with the white people in the ring you don't often escape pokes do bend your back Lombok things all that also just about nine type even going so I won't I'm on the verge of the team back from the gym is going to be cool the hammer lean defy you think you'll be as resource it I haven't seen Taylor Meg much adjustments I take nothing from Taylor he's outstand fantastic connect with them in a way that they are familiar with so that's why I decided to put so you'll see and you'll obviously Kim to win the fight on Saturday but just tell us what ringside last week looking forward to seeing you fight on Saturday nights I we're just GONNA do a little bit more roaming showing Courtney's just in the other corner of the of the changing room she's finished hours and things like that he just wasn't able to do things like that so I know regis is no way that's another big thing about a fight as you know man color is not even able to do just geographically as far as running in the mountains and running in that heat and swimming in the ocean workout as well he's just about to had hung muchly but she was she's always got always got time for the Tokyo podcast so sean way in these conditions that used to is that could possibly be thing I think so but I think that's more of a mental thing is how much you let it affect this is your second time boxing day at the is a is a pro which is which is pretty good going in and your full fight you we have extremely professional team me an redes- we both have a professional team this stuff has been thought about months out Turkish international and fighters internationally and learn not firefighters but took fighters over internationally and had to do the same thing with them delete it gives you a boost when you know your guy has not prepared the way you have to be almost like they don't deserve they don't deserve to beat you and I know that hyper fighting when they got the idea when they knew that we might be fighting in London that's when you know plans has started to be made now when it was fine alive but when when terms of the you've got coming up on Saturday it's the opponent that you've got it's been knowing that we will have to get down and wait you know in different conditions and things like that plans have been in place for months now as something so big as far as that's when you trust that he knows from his experience to get you down and if you trust in your team is not much of a mental mental on you know barrier for you just he just brings that edge into this ring where Josh Taylor does not deserve to be in what what about weight because it's colder here it's different his guys with that live in the fight is pretty much downhill from that point going forward he stopped guys he stopped tough guys he stopped relic who never been stopped before and travelling at team and get it going get it done okay I'm thanks very much for your time then interesting talking to you he's resting hang about your experiences in the in the UK People thought that he will have to box him the whole way through and now only that regis has been an extremely focused these whole eight weeks we've done things that Josh ends you you'll WanNa hit near enough you'll you'll talk at white fuel five but it doesn't matter so much books it's not a title fight he absolutely has to hit his cutting the extra last bit that's GonNa call for true adjustment and readers also has a style and punching power that doesn't forgive so if you get caught with one of his left hand the idea was brought up that regis what have to find London so that's when you just trust in your team and you know trust and the experience of his trainer who's been in quite a kind of late change from what I've seen that she should be able to give you some some rounds a not for the matchmakers that isn't the easiest thing to achieve at the moment caught with Hook you know you're is not a time where you get caught and you can re recuperating and make a new adjustment no as you say before rediscover oh see care about what now I'm thinking about anything Paul Saginaw never do anything my mind is my next door and then once we out the ring no absolutely you think you have no control over the toll and I it was just it was kind of interesting to watch because she didn't do anything that she was supposed to win since the technique or anything it's a supposed to be fighting Cathy Mcaleer I thought at the end of September but that didn't end up happening so a couple of names a couple of names there but things are going to be sadly not what's back out quickly which is which is always a good thing Costa Fraser is is a fight there will be a good one two good one to see Scottish it definitely a national step out for me next year on one hundred interested in me and my coach Charlie talks about yesterday before something very much interested in but like I said all October minds be peaceful all week long and then come the Sky Mono about who I'm fighting just stood on the edge of the ring and just tell all your point was meant and so people can sit there say no she shouldn't have fought off repeated this one hundred times say one more time I can only be on safe I'm in good health and hopefully go the my opponent is safe and in good health then we look at the next the next step for my career oversee often told them frightening December I'm not looking at it yeah I'm just thinking about manages when you see these days amateurs foreign novices and they make them look bad because I saw off dogs so what you feel the kind of next step would be then truth be told I don't ask for an never have done because in my opinion until on fire hose I I just try and keep a claim asphalt and I'm not I'm not pointing the finger at matrimonial match make you say it's difficult it's difficult you opponents but she was a last minute thing with the Board of support the original I like that she was so unorthodox because she was such a nervous she was just like swinging everything and it didn't make it difficult because in two rounds chat with the skull up on the Balcony I have secured a company of one of the main man the May mind you could say around this event on our side and not are you totally just into the life and demands of being a professional fighter if I was to sit here and say yes I'd be lying Jay it comes with a lot of added stress even little things going out people know who you are you WanNa have dinner with friends in people also a fascinating story behind with with New Orleans in Hurricane Katrina earn what he went through that Josh has gotten an interesting backstory to pretty quick for you I would say there's not really any other way to do it I just had eddie saying and they want me for him for world or twelve to eighteen months which is perfect by me title so we code it what was it easy cool numbers especially the branchy was very very close and it was a tough tough fired wow that is a customer boxing series finalists super lightweight between reaches for gray unleashed Taylor calories the final that you would have predicted always in social media's not the easiest thing in the world nowadays and you got a nine year southbound I'm adjusting everyday and doing the best I can I'm enjoying it afford will come over and only in the UK Europe Seven to ten days before maybe two weeks before three weeks before I've never seen that at this point to these final and doing that very very very grateful is on the way as well that that's really good personalities as well all night because regis before and check into some five star training camp someways trying to the peacock right stream pity grace change and go who's just four undefeated for as a game on I'm all I'm sorry it now that's what you need isn't it everyday is different but yeah somebody who can sit here and got a lifetime is in doing that they license owes I'm taking each surrounded by the fill in the women's guide is a huge amount of talent pool at big so you fought for five world quite soon competitive men the Komo after he's made a statement is set London eloy already because I've seen him in a thing every publication radio interview TV interviewees more on Scott. Boris Johnson is weak the season I was at a large say in the in the seatings so came up to cal came up good but if you look at a semi and in lots of ways people they might know the great then not VAT dissimilar ave you know tough backgrounds pies I really can branch of course and both for China juice progress and title challenges going into that those thoughts came in action for so you must be a bit torn about that one yeah it's not a fight which I envy the public watching it because it's a great heavyweight tear up let's let's can right facilities are sold them you know very different very different very very private very for him so just fine kitchens England win less kind of in a way kind of skill and just get out of there what is going to make you look bad there's a novice can make a decent pro look birds now did you just had a CIA abadie actually said you not doing bad oil senior moments twice once a month you'll koets I think progresses Atlanta nearly three weeks early that tells me about regis you look at fighters whenever you involved in the bigger on on on Saturday night another big night at the zoo and other great nights to be to be involved in what's in our account way so Lawrence MacAulay down in the ring just uh-huh lots of interesting pricey to Severi very humble Liverpool man A real true true gentlemen taught himself away himself at it and Josh is very different in that sense media trading day you know he's been very busy work in a WII Manila but very similar approaches to the build up to this fight in the last week's very strong connection with the with the chief support as well because now is in very different ways I had many many ups and downs with both of them worked with since so many years was was really lots of lots of great with ours isn't it you know it's it's a fight where the winner goes on potentially a very big opportunity for wartime issues now imagine having those issues time one hundred because of managing season twenty four top talk boxes and I it's a stabler fires more than let's say it's a five you can pick him on my picking me up away Solo of interesting comments since Joseph Barker pulled out a few weeks ago both fighters Zora and David Price Affi- to use promote with silence and both guys you've got a lot of impossible to keep my head down and keep you grounded and I'm I'm enjoying shot thanks very much for to look at singing box reputation Jimmy in London I'm trying to as a kid it's a great great Jimmy Pulitzer Spitting Sawdust in a real boxing gym so he's going in I think that that sets it up so nicely for this fine only to God's will be picked to fight each other in the unification but I felt that way as tonight that's a great fight breeders against daughter cost a great fight through still may sizes skeptics maybe not so much anymore but do you think at some point the oldest you know no one can really pick a winner on it or let's say everyone's very I will choose always GonNa win by knockout there's no one who says to me talk on points everyone is and the other one well already stern face Thailand is just going to be lost lost too far what just before we let you go even on the one side for all the other sort of knock everyone seems to agree on the knockout but who will be no one knows yeah massive history both of them both Brexit but it is a it is is incredible what he's done to come over here and he's and set himself up for his big foot in two weeks three weeks one way or another necessarily let the female white sauce counts you know it's going to be both Novus big stage could face on the big stage and let's be honest David Monterey down in the ring lois any any clues about what might be coming up in season three yeah you know we're we're busy working away oh I don't see them saying it's been a rough ride but at the end of the day we live promotional outfit on the planet L. Heavier Different Ones it's a waste in told him the big what's going to be interested in the seasons Amman Funding Games does he start here at the at a public workout today today Sasi Shelf they know each other out in the WB assessors delivered more unification fights at this level yeah that's next the proof of the pudding we bring they might start to pipe down because you have just kept delivering yeah I mean you know it's a shame this is no TV interview see my mom beaming smile you to look at what white searchers whites are valuable what lights can we get at least a couple of world champs in it and that level of quality that we've delivered so far in the it's been really good second series for the folks series not that kind of tricky second album you might describe it now so you go through great fine it's not just this on procreate in a way it's in that white end of so it's Kobe concept is hundred scenes sometimes talk enjoyed a week you'll be a great night on Saturday I'm I'm as confident as I have around this one welby we'll catch up with you against absolutely how could she was overdubbed with these books so you can kind of plot and you know you can have nice head movement and north exits with her she I seasons and then we're doing that it's a process but we're very busy he's fine who's obviously in mm-hmm brain surgery oboe a rocket science or something extremely company guy at its core semifinals and a final to find out who the best it's an ongoing process in the next few weeks a lot more that was that was classic promoter speed because that was an interesting he didn't tell me anything yesterday and it has to get too many fights and I was guessing the flat was probably that would be fighters out there fancy camara giant I mean to keep Ricky Burns are good you got to be a very very capable boxer this is what we sell his and it really is more comfortable I'm enjoying life in general not just training when you look when you've looked down the years whoa back as soon as I read the flex is always on the back story to necessarily every single one two or three white clauses that was a politician very good very good good see they scarves around Hodel different stories so I'm going to go into them All very different so come Tilles OBI ringside while boats into he's just come from the rain late you're in a great fighter because he has been a rod until you see him on was Roy as well you folks twenty years and when you put on a big fire the wrath of Bonani carnival weaknesses spotted I wouldn't say he's an extremely extremely tough line on a veritable box but Saturday was offered with folks the flight no when we lived Crisanto Goth Tomase Reduced Lisa Leeson on the job I was looking at Rick as Reysen record the biggest statement of the money to look at it that way and he'd manage the journey with them so you're GONNA have different agency for managers different China's different wives minded cheese with different organizations so I could see maybe in the bus and the division wide open book these trainers tonight on that on the record confident enough to to step up it probably took somewhat likely established to step in with him so he's definitely five Saturday night discuss a real international Paolino waste notify big fight when you get suppress from over the other side of the Atlantic it really I just been a fight to great fighters and I've been come Eddie just wanted this point skies fourth woman undefeated fighters in their prime I think the winners clearly going to be in our town propound top ten who all you picking Eileen I think he writes about say espn ever looked here as well because somehow he's managed to fly a little bit under the radar but what he's achieved in amount of fights decided it's been pretty on the on the nights boxing ability will be just shabalov effects in this view the lightweight division general because it is definitely doc but you know used to it so good and we're standing in looking for a great final intended as wearing Japan thousand forty pounds works junior welterweight UK and the convert two kilograms but Jose Ramirez is really good but no one really sees it as one of the two best this is when regis pro American bias I don't know just pretty well being you know living in Los Angeles as he does I think Josh Taylor's awfully crafty and for some reason the Lonzo ball outright the world's defended there so this is my second home we'll touch chapter we take you best of luck thank you he's an he's really being overlooked at least in the US he has Josh Taylor has the better resume and he's such a crappy inside fighter I'm so excited I don't really know what's going to happen probably niece Albie if you shot him in the ad he'd be rhyme knocking on your door the next day and the Richard you wait and see your newly selby it's always good to be involved in these big big ot unites isn't about city to Reno more than any other venue in my career museum extrordinary would you say these two actually fairly similar characters because I kind of think they are you know gray while on Taylor very show how it's really been viewed around the world which started to Sora Case David Price I would say around the world this much interest in this fight there was a lot of interest in the end despite right this kind of the one of those wwe style loser leaves town matches by trump city right about that I bet you're absolutely right I view that the wind is going to defend the jungle of so then you'll have all the on the belts which is quite difficult to keep up once you've unified with like the just sort of Parker and of course followed by after getting a spider bite and instead of getting superpowers he got sick so just while we've got you what's your view on the current heavyweight makes a popped into my head too soon as you mentioned wwe toss a furious getting involved in not but we're not the house like I don't know how short end up dead I feel real by writes about that because I was in the postal and it was similar against Ramczyk he he I think undoubtedly the biggest fight of the year two thousand nine hundred eighteen bigger than canola Kobe love and a host of others and you have to lean toward Joshua right is the fog we certainly I would say back at the end of the end of August between Lumberton Coen's Campbell how did you feel up on launching wasn't quite as good just out with this as well he came to it and you had to put your wit Sergei specific guidelines that'll be something you'd rather I don't think leaves the more competitive on the moment we got like the palm a ruling division of Chango Richard Tommy defended his title against Moist Fort The wrong fight deliberately at times he could he could get up closer really trying do some damage interested to see what your few on on what is a big domestic fight here but far away from from Wilder Ortiz we had fuel rewinding long ago Ruiz Joshua is rapidly approaching. It's the more complex fighter but I've noticed that India res they say I know it's Cliche but he's so much more confident after becoming champion and I just saw that the heavyweight division which is mystic boxer seasoned bucks but I think I've been in a ring with him think he gets show him a lot of things Alexander usage looking to make that you know five some but I wasn't too impressed with him were you well chazz witherspoon performed how about we just programs the Guy I've watched Orleans Hurting Hillary separately the same were obsessed with the rematch ropes reasons how how how's the McChrystal's it is boxing fans are obsessed with the two in the US res Joshua always carry boxing is the best business nineties even court Ted Right now Anthony Joshua Yanti Wilder Tyson theory sounded out by David Price is really not regarded well in the US he's he was at one point as a prospect call short so many times and you have to gales which I'm sure will happen we'll have to soon enough what concerns me was that was a little hesitant to trade and exchange you could see that he was a little wary of with US unusually low tellers rangy and all I've seen fights to give the coastal fight could've kept opponent bank you must get entirely around Alexa expecting to be as as you can luke Campbell bait this new Campbell's debut on the nights we definitely never parts the report is that I need to spend some money to send I think the winner of Regis Josh Taylor can really call themselves the best fighter for sure function it was laughable which was to get the few round stunting we can read so much into it crushes who asks about UC steps faces somebody who significantly big around kind of w tindall any fights no he's the consummate Bo route to be number one in the world is that be self number one vote do I just completely and actually I Scotland and wealth up yet so we were expecting a great Komo sandwiches Mike I'm a familiar one thousand five hundred seventy eight in what is it about this why that is his power and yes you're right it was I can't say that a little better fight maybe a you know maybe to soar store wins ultra stores say that he would look to music so that could be a great fight but I like that and so much more intrigued with visits urged jam packed and wilder theory too that's paid for February twenty you know theories cutting open up we cut in wwe all the time well I know lots about ww eight but from what I understand due to start now they're both you know both respected good amateur so this is a fight with water I look forward to something a kind of English moustache the final that you envisage absolutely absolutely josh is a great fighter so it's it's definitely it's the it's the fight there was supposed to be here they were number one or number formal terms of how you managed to surpass time it difficult to told now actually Mel let's kept US pretty busy with their Congra- so we came over acclimated he's ready to go he's in great shape it only took a few days to get to get adjusted so the rest of the time it's just been the interviews and stuff and going to the soccer game so it's been everything's been great we've been we've been busy there's been no real downtime sparring he brought with your c Williams as well there were a few guys in the gym we moved with but not not they were some amateur kids he just moved around to work with him but other than that no our guys are sparring partners are not really sparring partners they're real I'm guessing by that rationale the anticipated while to having any problems with Louis I do not I know Ortiz gave wilder a whole host of issues I fight had wilder tremendous trouble but teases God knows how old they listen I think forty is Cuban and we know that a lot of athletes and a form of America that they really are about two weeks ago here in the first week of that point three weeks we've been here so go ahead Jim isn't it yes yeah London's great I'm ready to get home but oh fans they understand boxing you know you know in football so it's you know those are the the fans of the best you know other than the the Mexican crowds celestial who is was another and that's south postponing sometimes is not easy to come by amid if you picked up sparring partners here as well no we avenue quick fashion this time around and set up that wilder fury nicely I'm worried about jury against Rostro crown jewel in Saudi Arabia and see right a little bit more drama but people are being are concerned about that mark thanks for you saw them speak right from definitely do it again will we see you sounding by the way I will be in Saudi can fight night atmosphere we were talking to our Williams earlier he was Newcastle last week he was just across the ring for me and I could see him kind of wide on the nights looking around because within your listed age and let's not forget that knocked out of Ortiz was brutal most of taking something out of the balance back like nothing happens so I think wild is going to and the conduct choreography if you describe it as such as so expertly done I wouldn't be surprised even actually if they make it look like it house opened up when actually house and we've never had trouble getting barnes so when the competition started they will boxing series you would have been comfortable making it to the final have you enjoyed this tonight it's great and you know the people out here supportive so it's great ready to go on for a while now came to the peacock to see you probably it's the atmosphere could be good in Americorps spur over here sometimes it can be a bit different great bands over here no doubt London and in England interesting to see just how much how much pressure Peoria stunk this week during the course of the Rick because of his visit is mandatory from Ramirez and then they kind of weird the way out of it but it worked out and hopefully at the end of the day we'll get Ramirez after expecting it to be with you say I'm expecting a lot of different things you know we'll just make adjustments as we go regis is good debt problems like that he'll he'll adapt gone looks a little bit different in the face now allies Hungary definitely yeah of course I'm hungry thirsty but the American crowds sometimes but most of the time it's Mexicans are English that had the good crowds so of course I know who you're picking away but but what kind of a fight you know it's almost it's almost time speaking of this is a bit of a cruel place to bring people for open were counts because he's just hit me the winner of this fine I'll be able to find him that'd be great as a dream match for US Ramirez Ramirez we were supposed to fight Ramirez here's Asta Williams is Jim with us and then Toronto's bronze medallist so he's not a he's a real fighter it wasn't hard to guess Marin we this bobby thanks very much reduced is just working the crowd saw autographs and it's visit with with a lot of kind of public appearances things like this is a good thing to to keep you cool yeah it definitely because it keeps it keeps your mind off everything especially like the court may data so reaches programs just finished his workout spittle failed scoot trout gathered status and we've his trainer will be Bentsen I think after the way they can start eating again that's when I kind of lock input on mute boxing is it's not it's not something for me I have to be serious about the confidence and hopefully is being shepherded away by the shoulder by Malcolm o'kelly who looks up to the PR and soon as I walked out we came down says the smell of the pool just hit me so yeah it's definitely a cool place bringing vital right now that's making way so you've been capital you'd be is for a lot of fighters when they come to the issues with the silly Lumberton Co a few weeks ago reduces just come over to join US Regis so we in the gym a couple of weeks insist fi is the best fighter one forty Jose Ramirez is gone to the bounces on is that how you say it absolutely would it be too much I went to I went to the oath to we did some things over there so you know I saw it and stuff with a post when you know when you get their fight night is always going to be different you know I'll be house as your as you normally are that's me tomorrow starts really looking I'm always likely I could be you know really after after zero serious personal stuff I can talk and do all this stuff but when I get near it will always change so what about on the day of the fights itself

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LA Serial Killers: A Conversation | 7

The Dating Game Killer

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LA Serial Killers: A Conversation | 7

"The the dating game killer by Hollywood and crime contains depictions of violence and is not suitable for everyone. Please be advised from wondering this is Hollywood and crime. I'm Tracy Patton today our special episode of the dating game killer. La Serial killers a conversation. I'm here today with retired. Lapd detective Tom Lang and Bob Souza. They're the CO authors of a great new crime book which I just started reading malice in wonderland about the wonderland murders so tom and Bob were part of our season. Three special episode where writer Director Larry. Brand interview them about being led detectives. On the case they gave us an insider's look into the robbery and revenge rampage. That led to four gruesome deaths in the summer of Nineteen eighty-one and also with us is true. Crime Social Historian Joan Renner. She has a fascinating. Blog called deranged. La Crimes Dot Com and she's the author of the first and the latest Aggie Underwood The Los Angeles Herald and the sordid crimes of the city. That is one log tied along. And she's also a regular guest on Hollywood and crime so welcome to all of you. It's so great to have you all back here so before we begin. I just WanNa take a moment to remember our wonderful writer director Larry Brand. He passed away in his sleep. Two weeks ago can't believe it was just two weeks ago. And I just WanNa say for me I loved voicing Larry's powerful and beautiful words and two three and now season four so we'd like to dedicate this season the dating game killer to Larry and you know what I was thinking when I was preparing for this I was remembering all of us being at the La Film Festival just last fall and being on that panel with Larry so it was. I'm just glad we all have that time together. Larry was a real role. I mean if you wanted to learn something about what you do for a living you WANNA meet that. Nana's sit down with them. Just watch him and he could push himself and push himself and push himself and then push himself some more that was the type of guy he was. He just pushed the envelope until it fell off the table. And get them to it again. just a solid guy a nice man very objective incredibly intelligent and. I just can't imagine anybody any better at what they did. Then Larry was. Larry had an immediate positive effect even on my family who met him at the Film Festival He was very interested in. My granddaughter was getting ready to go on tour and her fiance at the time. Who's a professional drummer and Larry showed such interest in what they were doing that when I told him about Larry passing my granddaughter. We actually broke into tears. that's what effect it has on people from the beginning. I was really impressed me when I met him the same way. You feel like you've known him all your life very very pleasant man you. That event was the first time I ever met him and I was taken right away with his intensity such an intense person and his intellect strucure right away very quick very sharp and I loved his work ethic. I mean it's like Tom said you could tell he was the kind of person who would just push and push and push and then take half a breath and push beyond and I I. I really admire that in someone just. I'm just sad that I never had a chance to know him better. Well I'm so glad that He was able to hear when he was in production for For the dating game killer he was able to sit and he put on music together of course and he got to listen to how it all went. So I'm for that we're glad and I know he's here in spirit. So let's just jump in and talk about This bizarre case the dating game killer and in which is about the life and crimes of Rodney Alcala who in the end turned out to be a serial killer. So Tom and Bob. Let's let's just talk about this notion of the serial killer name was named back then right and became a thing So how did that impact you in working on the homicide unit? In in all the work you were doing back then back in the seventies in the eighties celebrity homicide who specialize Unicol call special section. And we'd work high profile cases serial killing cases cases that took time and effort whereas a lot of other geographical divisions wouldn't have the time or the resources to handle so we will moving along with cases like Laurel Canyon case and a couple others. The dorothy may arson murders twenty. Five people lost their lives there and then all of a sudden you get this serial killer situation when you have a murder investigation. You're not thinking that you're going to have a suspect involved. In any other cases it's completely different with a serial killer because you know that the killer is still out there killer is still active on Dorothy mayor. The Laurel Canyon case. It's over now. We can get to work on the evidence to see if we can put this together. For Filing Searle Co. is completely different. You go one or two victims out there. You link those victims you know you have a serial killer and so it changes a lot of things that changes what you do as far as strategies in what you're looking for and serial killer one of the things you used linking we call linking the murders the Mo of course a motorcycle randy and we go beyond that to things like the signature If there's body dumps you look at the posing which could be a signature? There was a signature or something at a serial killer that goes beyond the the emel something that should be kept just between you and in the perpetrator. You don't want that after the media. That's a big problem with a lot of serial killing cases in some jurisdictions. You don't have experience handling those. They let too much information out because this guy is still out there or Gal there are women to have been serial killers. You want to keep everything you have close to the vest and that can be very difficult especially when you get a. Lotta publicity indicate well Bob. Way In about the euro was so unique We were we were all seasoned homicide detectives but when a serial killer era hit we were kind of thrown into the deep end of the pool and we had no real prior experience was serial killers we had to figure it out and the city Not only the Police Department But the city attorney's Everybody the DA's office. Everybody was concerned that the public should know. Oh my God. There's a serial killer. We knew it was happening. But they wanted to keep as close to vessels they could but usually the press would break wide open. And now we have to deal with it but I think we didn't have serial killer profiling at the time this was before the FBI really in Quantico had their unit together and so we were pretty much on our own figuring it out and as cases went on our office was we got a new task force almost weekly and as the cases went on. We got better at it. We found out that we have to keep track of the clues. We have to prioritize the clues which ones we had to bring in more teams just to handle close because we had to handle the case in proper so they would give us the top priority clues and we'd run with those. Those are usually if we had a suspect license plate number or something that was substantial but there are a lot of peripheral clues that had to be checked. And that's why we brought in we kept bringing more and more people and he's taskforces grew to fifty sixty officers. Did we charge of to make sure that they were doing. They should be doing. We get support from bode. 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Bob and Tom Malice in wonderland you talk about the sixties to the nineties being the most high crime murderers the most murders happening in those decades. So my question to you Joan is what what do you think was happening. Do you think the culture had something to do with. It always has something to do with it I think and would I think. A lot of experts have looked at this because it was a phenomenon. It didn't happen before to my knowledge. It hasn't happened since and so was just this moment in time. So what was it play? There were a few things culturally. Maybe that had some impact on it The seventies for instance is known as the decade of decadence and rightfully. So there were a baby. Boomers were in their twenties and they were going to bars and discos in a row out of bad decisions. Fuelled by coke and Nive tame maybe and I think that culturally maybe that made it easy whatever. Whatever makes it easier for killer. I think is a victim pool and I think that that Hollywood in L. A. At that time was just an enormous. Never ending source of possible victims. Because you had you had a lot of people out and about there was sort of a sense of a new freedom in the air or if you look at the women's movement there are a lot of cultural touchstones things going on that sort of fed into that but I still don't think any of those things explains why serial killers y Los Angeles and why then it's it's still sort of. It's it's like an unknowable. At least at this point phenomenon. And there's a lot of possibilities but no real answers. You made a good point Victim Pool I like that. It's a huge victim pool because if you look at the serial killings we broke down into four. Mo Areas and they include Someone like the the Night Stalker Richard Ramirez. Who break and enter. And commit mayhem. Murder rape whatever that was one type of emo in another Mo which would The freeway killers. When I'm Bob Handle we abundant case we had four or five different freeway killers at the same time who abduct women and men and mutilate the body sometimes rape and everything else in dumped the bodies along the freeways then you had the Just the regular stock and kill. We had four serial killers involved in skid row stabbings And that of homeless people as well as the transients for those again just stock and kill so there were various Imos and but like you said they all part of a victim pool. I really liked that and it's true. That was probably a big reason for that and again this was before social media. This was before everybody had a camera. This was before computers really people on cellphones. Today that's everything has changed in the communications. These people could really get away with a lot more back then quite frankly then you could today. There were so many murders at that time that we recalled on quite often. We had visitors from all over the actually all over the world. There were concerned that this was going to branch out and involve other cities other major cities just detectors from almost every major city contacting us. What is going on in Los Angeles We had the same thing. We we had German British detectives coming from Scotland Yard. To see what was going on. In fact I started lecturing out of state there was a tri state area marazion. And I'll never forget one avert seminars. We had Detectives from all over the Phoenix area and one of them came up to me on the break and said do you realize you had a more murders in a weekend. We do an entire career quite often. We would get three or four in a weekend and it was just absolutely mind blowing but at the time all we thought was this is what we do. We kind of normal does but now that we think back on it Detectives Nowadays Pretty Pretty. Well haven't made with a third of the crime rate. We hit so we didn't have any time to worry about enough time to throw many worked eight or ten hours. We did Little Laurel Canyon with thirty hours and Laurel Canyon Wonderland murders. Yes yes and that was that was I was going to say what what case cases really stand out for you guys and I know the wonderland murders was the first time you to worked as a team in high profile case is true. I think the Dorothy may fire stands out to me Innocent people all died in a senseless fire. It was a young man. It was getting back at his uncle and he started to fire and like the arson investigators. We worked very closely with. They said if he was professional arsonist. He couldn't have done any better. It was perfect condition. He got lucky. Perfect conditions but twenty twenty. Five people died and that was. That was a tough one because all the bodies are corners at the same time. And I just said You. Autopsies one by one and it just went on for two or three days and it was. It was devastating. One of our detectives actually went off with an emotional problem because he was involved in a case with us but it involves a lot of other things that we'll do that on another show a lot more so that's a memorable occasion. I'm sure Tom's got others to well-publicised obviously a Simpson case but have to tell you simpson case to any homicide. Cop is what we call a Turkey platter ninety percent of murders. You're going to have something exculpatory. Normal investigator looks for scope. Pretoria evidence in his investigation so only gonNA strengthen is investigation or there's far as the Simpson case There was nothing sculpture toy which is very rare in a murder case every single thing of a substantive nature and Simpson was income Tori down to the shoe size of the bloody footprints at the scene. Tori mean evidence that shows that your particular suspect probably committed the crime. I give you a quick quick Example of that and Simpson I. I like to use Simpson because of so easy. I mean there there. There were many suspects eliminated but only evidence only went one direction that was so j Simpson. There was a bloody footwear impression. At the scene. Very clear in alongside the bloody footwear impression was a trail of blood tailing to the rear the location so we knew that the suspect whoever that was that a wound somewhere in the left side of the of their body that footwear impression was twelve inches when we did the search warrant. Simpson House that grabbed a pair of shoes. And ask you if these were his ever worn them. He said Yeah Affect. I wore those last night. They were size twelve. We had sized will footwear impressions at the crime scene if those were sized ten. That's exculpatory evidence. That would be something the defense would want. That's normal in any case but that didn't have any but again. That's a Turkey on a planner. Nobody wants to buy into Simpson as a suspect. Quite frankly less their problem the most difficult and perplexing case we as when Bob and I had though to me was the wonderland case because it took twenty years and every facet of police investigation was involved at one time or another so for me. It's a wonderland case. That was a gruesome case. And it's so fascinating to watch. I was just talking about this the stuff. That's on Youtube now. You can watch crime scene and watching you guys go through that crime scene and describe what was going on was shocking to me that we have access to that. It's like a whole new world now. There was an internal investigation regarding that in many other things in that particular case also Because that videotape that eight hours twenty four minutes a firsthand that had been done in California where the video tape was actually admitted into evidence a crime scene video and it was shown to several attorneys with Sean Court through discovery. We had to turn that video over. So who knows how that thing got into the movie wonderland but it did? It was part of the trailer. The movie wonder so. Somebody made some money on that thing. those types of things perhaps should have been shown in open court. Perhaps we should have all of the defense attorneys and in this case there were dozen at least a dozen attorney team. Yeah at least got copies of the video. So who knows what happened to it? Do you want to weigh in on your thoughts about why I keep thinking about the media how everything's changed now but back then even with these sensational crimes? There's a problem right with this whole focus that the media puts on it and then you guys are trying to do your job and then all this will never be as a camera. They have a camera with them all day every day. And there are people who actually bait cops you know to try to get some Some damning video on there. I mean. It's just it's it's appalling. It's nice that there is Maybe there's a level of a feeling of safety that comes along with. I have this camera. I can murders still happen. Rape still happen. I think people are looking at their devices. Sometimes as a way to make money I find that appalling to and the thing with the crime scene video I saw as when I was working with the Los Angeles Police Museum. We had For something we were putting together we had a copy of the wonderland walk through and that was one of the most revolting things I've seen ever. I'm I'm of the My personality is fascinated with with crime. But I like it in black and white. I like old film noir. I like you know. I like the old black and white crime scenes. That's fine. I've seen some awful crime scenes before but I prefer not to and that wonderland thing was just awful. And then once the press get their teeth into something they can one of the. I think one of the best examples of the press Helping to blow a case was during the night stalker when the Richard Ramirez went up to San Francisco and he committed. I see that Tom Barbara both nodding their heads. They know where I'm going with this the Ah He went up to San Francisco Killed Barbara and Peter Pan in San Francisco. Well he part of what was was tying him to. The crimes was a particular shoe a particular brand of shoe size of shoe. They had some excellent shoeprints as evidence of of the of the of the Society of the suspect and so he goes to San Francisco. Commit these crimes on at some point L. A. I don't know if LAPD win. I know sheriff's Department went up to San Francisco. They're they're talking to detectives. They're they think there's a link because it seems like there's a pretty obvious link between these cases so they're talking one of the things that you know the cops all new to do was say nothing to anybody. They're sharing information among themselves. But we'RE NOT GONNA put it out there making public. So mayor of San Francisco at the time was Dianne Feinstein. We know her in another capacity. Now I know her is kind of a Ditz because I think what happened. There was there was a a news conference. She goes out and says we have the shoe. We know what shoe the killer was wearing and I you can see behind her any of the cops that were there their jaws drop like. What is this imbecile doing? She's out there telling so on the story goes but I asked. I asked one of the detectives about this. And he said maybe. It's not true as the story. Goes Robert. Richard Ramirez took his Avia shoes and pitched them over Off the Golden Gate Bridge One of the Detectives Sheriff's Homicide Detectives. Frank Salerno work the case to said that that wasn't really true but it may have well been Richard Ramirez like a lot of killers. And I know Bob and Tom Tom can talk to. This is that they keep up on the news too. They like they're they're narcissists. They like to see them. They like to see stories about themselves in the newspapers. They like to see stories on television and he while he may have been a lot of things. He wasn't an idiot. Richard Ramirez was not an idiot was actually kind of bright very articulate and he was just evil but he knew the shoes were was. What did he do so he he? He was wearing different shoes again. This is the media taking something that should have been kept secret just for the for the the teams working on the case and left alone but she goes out to. I don't know what to vote. She's never had my vote ever took over tennis shoes. And you'll correal as the other shoe interview them a good friend of mine. I love good very good cop to and and talking to Ramirez Ramirez alluded to that and said I saw the mayor. I saw the press conference where the shoes which shoes is a little. If you've ever looked at luxury clothes jewelry and art and thought you'd never be able to own them. Believe me I get it. 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He didn't want to talk to the Captain Division. WanNa talk to commanders deputies. He wanted to hear from the actual detectives so when you wanted to get his office The ranking officers. They pretty much kept quiet. Because Darryl would talked US direct and he'd say Okay Guys. What don't you want me to put out? So we'd brief him tell me everything wasn't about the case but we have to keep this because a polygraph key. We don't want you say anything about this. So he was very attentive to that and it really worked well for us. Because he's probably wants to these kind of polygraph keys. Get out there. It just destroys your case. I mean it because it's going to go to court someday and now you have a serious problem. If that's something suspect knows just like this upriver. General that when Tom Kado J. case and as fishing up in northern California and I just saw this old. Tv Little Cafe there was a black and white TV and there was no sound. I'm watching it and I see the famous Bronco thing and then I see Tom on the TV. I had no idea it was going on so I called. Tom And I said what's going on. He says you haven't heard and I said No. He says killed his ex-wife and have been boyfriend. I said it does look pretty cases. I wish all of our cases were this good that we handled together. That told me a lot. Because Tom is a top professional and he would never bullshit me. I mean that was the real deal at that time and then we all know what happened after that. God it's such a full at and I'll just say this I keep when I met you. I keep I see you on the witness. Stand and watch him when I watched the trial so it was so. Surreal to meet you in person. And you're you know you became this. You did become kind of a celebrity. And you're saying the Paparazzi was chasing you and how that hard that was for you and that's the interesting thing about the the thing for detectives in the media and they're trying to do their job and then they've got all this other stuff going on. Well let's jump into Rodney Alcala. The dating game killer which is such. I find it to be such a bizarre case and one of the things. That's so interesting is that most people don't know who he is. But he ended up in the end becoming this prolific serial killer. So what do you? What do you guys? I mean you were on the force when this happened to you. You were both right okay. But you weren't on the case. We were at several other cases in Alcala. Falls within one of those four five Snatch in Torture rape and dump cases. We're talking about with young women and one of the Cases was found in Hollywood hills. And so our unit get involved. Jack holder now deceased was when he investigated handle that and while it was a possibility as part of the he was part of the Hillside Strangler Task Force which is another Task Force. We had with the bone on Bianchi So Komo Carlo is being looked at for that but he of course was convicted of that. Balka murder along with several others. But what you look for and you don't want to be there was a question about white went the LAPD arrest them in Bookham anything you do in a serial killing case. You're working with the District Attorney's office and you don't want to be making probable cause arrests and possible suspects because you just giving grist to the defense team when it goes to trial. Careful that type of thing so somebody else was handling. Alcala he had crossed into LAPD jurisdiction. And that's a major major problem when you have a bunch of serial killing cases and we were looking at seven or eight at the time within a few few years period of time we had four or five different policing agencies. They weren't communicating. They weren't saying well this. We've got this. We've got that Bianchi on the Hillside. We had three. We were one of the three agencies. We're looking at him. As a possible suspect and other agencies knew it and it and he actually went right along with. Lapd pass some of the dumpsites rent in the middle of the killings. The Iraqi did so if if if we knew at Orange County was doing there was a victim Glendale if we knew what they were doing and they know what we were doing. Maybe that wasn't right along to happen. Maybe that's a major problem in an exists today because when I do instruction one of the first things that I talk about is a lack of communication. We used to go to work. We have a cup of coffee and we start making calls and setting up interviews with other police agencies and witnesses. We wouldn't do it over the phone and we certainly wouldn't do it online today. They come in with a cup of coffee. They open their laptop and their training evidence online. You don't do that. You gotta go out. Let's have a beer tonight. Look each other in the eye and I'll be getting what you're all about and the same in the morning over coffee. Let's discuss evidence you know do it online. That's that's the problem that still exists today that a lack of communication. Isn't that just so striking to me? 'cause they talked a lot about that with nine eleven. That was a huge problem. And if it's still this problem today it always comes down to the human element and I saw it in a serial killer cases. I handle especially bond. It involves several jurisdictions as well as Elliot County Sheriff's and there were smaller some smaller departments. And Luckily my partner is a time. We established communication. He had a partner before me as Johnson. John was Lee investigator from the get. Go in that case. They brought me in because his partner was a little arrogant and wanted to keep things close to the vest and at the same with all these detectives. Everybody wants to be the one that gets the guy you know and so they put me in to to mix it up a little bit. Let's get to know these other detectors I mean. Let's let's have some of a report here. This is ridiculous and so I tried to do that And it worked to a certain extent at work but Orange County for instance. They had a suspect early on bill bonding and they followed him for a couple of weeks. They wrote him off. And so at these meetings. We'd have these big tests for his meetings and bond is no longer suspect. We we kinda discount him so we we kind of accepted that well bond until the twenty five kids after that young men and they let him go but not wasn't completely their fault but maybe looked at him a little further instead of just writing him off a suspect So those kind of things like times says it's communications issue We we really worked at it. Having this report we sit down have drinks and evening we. We wanted to have a friendship and working relationship as opposed to an adversarial Which quite often it was because everybody wants to be the guy and John was there jealousy him because he got a lot of press being number one detective these badge number one and he was senior man and it was a pleasure to work with Johnny. You know I wish I knew as much as he had forgotten but he was anyway and that was kind of a rub there so it came back down to communication lake. Tom Says and even on the The Manson case I happen to work with Danny Galindo who was lead investigator on on Tate Labianca. He swore that Bianca's was a copycat they just he discounted it. You said it was the biggest mistake ever made in his life and he told me that was much younger than him at the time fairly new detective compared to his thirty years. He said Bob Remember something. Don't ever have tunnel vision and don't ever think it's a copycat always think that maybe they're connected. He says it'll save you and he was right. There's no question about speaking of Copycat and the Rodney Alcala thing and the hillside strangler case. I think it was so interesting because at first right the LAPD thought it was. It was hillside strangler because it was Joel Bark home up in the Hollywood hills and the way she was placed. They thought well it's got to be hillside strangler right so when it turned out to be Rodney Alcala. Do you think he did this on purpose. That he place the body like that or do you think it was just. I don't think I wouldn't certainly put it past him. I mean here's a guy who's a three trials and on the third trolley defending themselves complete ass out of themselves. You know some wrong. As soon he could have done that. I suppose but we didn't know nobody knew. And how did he get away with this for so long? I know there wasn't forensics back. Then but that's just baffles me. That that he was able I mean he went to New York of course changes identity and then of course the whole crazy thing about the dating game i. That story is so crazy the way that the detective saw him on the dating game just by chance and it was a it was a repeat Rerun and he had the Hubris to appear on the dating game. We were discussing Joan about sociopaths. John well I mean. That's that's part of that's part of it. As for a sociopath I mean they're like Rodney Alcala just A malignant narcissist. Everything's about him His motive if you're looking for a motive for the murders it's sexual gratification. I don't think there's any other motive really there. It's not robbery. It's not any of the other things that you might committed murder for torture against sexual gratification. Gratification this is what he does he enjoyed it and I think impart if there was a climate that created You know the pool victims there was also climate that prevented him from doing any real time. I think the cops always had a feeling about him once they once they talked to him and once especially after he snatched the little girl in Hollywood But there was a climate rose Byrd. I'm sure that You remember her. When she was the first woman I think. On the California Supreme Court rose. Byrd was a a fierce proponent of an opponent of the death penalty which is fine. That doesn't necessarily mean she's A bad jurist what made her so Destructive and a lot of these cases was that she wanted to fit the law to her point of view rather than understanding that the law is something that she had to fit her point of view to. You couldn't do it the other way around so I think enduring her watch. I think there was something more than sixty people were released on appeal. Because she just didn't she just couldn't deal with the death penalty. This is part of the climate. And so I think Rodney Alcala was able to game the system. He's he's not. He's not an idiot. Although as Tom said he proved himself to be kind of a big idiot in court. But that was that was just a function of his narcissism. He thought he was. He thinks he's smarter than everyone else. But I think that Where was I going with us that help me out here? Well you were talking about grabbing. Yeah that's the thing and I think that's another part of that puzzle is that he he was good enough. I mean he he's not. He wasn't bad-looking. Not appealing to me. But it wasn't a bad looking guy from the time. And he was on the dating game right good enough for that and he got pick any got picked. That was a bad because of the Banana. So bizarre but I think in part. He used his personality as a way to attract women victims to him so. His personality wasn't displeasing his looks weren't scary So he he was the same game when he was when he was in prison. He'd you know he'd if you think that shrinks can't be fooled You got another thing comment. And so he was able to say you know they a lot of times. They kicked him loose. They thought he was cured. Whatever was wrong with him. He's fine now you know. Let's just send him back out and because he did then moved to New York he. He went across the country a couple of times in fact the most recent case attributed the most recent trial. Jury whatever it was was twenty thirteen. You know those pictures right. That were distributed the hundreds of photographs. He'd taken of Women. Some of them couldn't be shown because they were so sexually suggestive or or but one of the one of the A sister of a woman who went missing saw one of the photographs that was included in that whole array of photos and she recognized her sister and her sister had been missing than she said. Oh my God I can tell her because she has something a little crook in one of her little interview and she recognized her and sure enough They were then able to Jane Doe Forever. And she was on a motorcycle. Pose on this motorcycle The chances of it being Rodney Alcala. I'd say ninety nine point nine nine percent and of those photographs that are still people who haven't been idea how many of them are victims. There's definitely more victims. The dating game killer is brought to you by best fiends. 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He was a psychopath of the first order. He couldn't care less that he would pose. Take the time to actually pose a victim and then also t took trophies take jewelry from salvage victims did he kept and we had a couple of cases will skid row established one and so we ended up nail in him because he would take little trophies and keep them so. This is how some of these guys think. So then the photographs. You mentioned with car. He'd probably go look at it from time to time and get our fun I mean. That's that's what goes on in the minds of these total sociopath no conscience about anything or anybody. It's all about me anything. WanNa do my victims. Because they're under my control. It's really unfortunate that Some of these attributes do serial killers. Have it's wasted on them for really bad bad beyond I think Bianchi and Bundy or two that come to mind. I mean they were able to really Seduce women they had to charm. They had the charisma. And there's a dark underneath where everything they did was nefarious but They did have that ability and bicker. Norris not so much they actually had to violently kidnapped victims and subdue him and Bittaker never cooperated. But I was fortunate enough to be able to interview Norris and north in talking to him would be like US discussing where we're going to have lunch tomorrow. He's talking about how they would grab these young girls and how they torture But what we were there for really was to get an idea of his his. Mo is method of operation of how they worked. We thought well maybe are serial killers doing similar things and he was the one that told us about You're you're looking for probably You're looking for a White Guy. You're looking for a guy that Probably has a van and they used a with a sliding doors opposed to one that opens out. They don't want people behind them. We're in front of him. Seeing what's happening they can pull right up to the curb and grab a young woman right off the park bench or entice her with marijuana or alcohol young girls and that's kind of how they operated and he would tell us these things that as it turned out bonded have a van with a sliding door But he told us about how they would purposely. Try to fool the cops and they had followed the Hilson. The The freeway killer. They had followed those stories. So well we're going to start grabbing girls from different different cities and will dump another. We'll confuse the cops. He said we had they had all that going on. And they had studied Elliot Chops. They knew that. La COPS and La Sheriff's when they stopped you they jack up they'd get you out of the car. They searched the car even. Maybe they're not authorized to do it but that's what they did. The smaller departments were more politically oriented. They would stop you. There might ticket. But they're not going to get you out and they're not going to search your car so they liked operating in smaller cities for that reason so they knew these guys aren't stupid. I mean they know and you always see these things about well Syracuse really just WANNA get caught. Well that's bullshit they don't WanNa get caught. You know they WANNA keep Goin' Bonnin. Was He loved killing our boys so It's just interesting to me that that the The mindset is so wasted on Evil Person At arrestingly. We're talking about pairs of sale killers. We actually had a pair. Male female The sunset Strip tillers the clerk and Carol Bundy and they would. She'd pick up guys. Take him out to the trucking I don't WanNa Kill Them. In one instance the beheaded the think she was a prostitute. That'd be editor and Doug Clark would keep the head in the freezer refrigerator at home made up lipstick Mascara in the stabbing and from time to time. We raunchy here with what happens. Happens he take the head of a freezer and have sex with it? Oh this is the case you worked on. I didn't work on that. Lapd Robert Leroy Leroy Delong along with them a little bit on the case but a little bit on each gauge is primary investigator so it was another team that that had that but this was part of that same era all these things were going on at the same time so everybody had a case cool you know and it's so interesting so today is it not as its. We don't hear about serial killer so what has happened is not like this quick statistic nineteen eighty two city of Los Angeles. One thousand ninety four murders excuse me homicides new sometimes people get homicide murders mixed up one thousand nine hundred four homicides. People died vast vast majority of those one thousand ninety. Four in nineteen eighty-two were murders last year in the city Los Angeles two hundred and fifty eight represents over seventy five percent decrease in homicides from our period two today. So do they have as much to do probably not today though you have things like DNA ever coal case go out. What does the cold case squad do? They take unsolved murders and run the all evidence for DNA. That's a court case. And he saw a lot of cases the Sausage serial killers. We had In the middle mid eighties in south central Los Angeles we looked at over one hundred murders of prostitutes. We sold I think six or seven of them pre DNA DNA came along. Put this thing together. And then the nineties. We ended up getting five additional killers the grim sleeper and several others cleared all homicides because the DNA so that's perhaps one reason another alluded to earlier with social media. Everybody knows everything about everybody they do. You get killers going online for granted you wonder if if you know if there were social media back then in the decades prior you know would have been a different world because I mean Look Rodney Alcala. I mean He. He's on the dating game and not hot and I mean that was the craziest thing but today that would have never happened. The part of what was going on to like in the eighties. If you had the crack epidemic. So again you have a victim pool who Because with the southside ones they were primarily prostitutes and I'm not mistaken and most of them had drug habits Sometimes it's hard to say what comes first the drug habit or the you know the prostitution that it's it's not an easy way to make a living. I think you'd have to be drugged to want to do that. You mentioned about that in the media the media head to head a serial killer in the south side. Yeah but we would tell the media. There's probably more than one killer. In many killers are tricks other prostitutes dope dealers pimps they all kill prostitutes. There's not one killer. In the media had on the southside slayer media is the one that client side slayer they would listen to us and we had a three year taskforce all of those murders cleared a lot of crime that only a very few murders until DNA came along. Of course. Today you'll hear. Oh Gosh we were wrong killers. But it's the media has to have conflict says stories about a story unless there's conflict in you got up Ed. Page one now. It's been the problem for law enforcement steelers today. Prostitutes are an easy victims. I mean they have been since Jack. The ripper oral because they'll get into the they get into situations with strangers recipe for Disaster. Everyone killing a prostitute. This particular era. That Tom and I were so involved in We talked about wondering quite a bit over the years. That's why was added to write the Book Balance. Since then the more we talk the more we realize what anomaly that whole period of time was and so. We're now planning a second book and we'RE GONNA call it homicides in business and discuss a lot of cases we did a little bit of that in in in in this book On one chapter we kind of devoted to other cases that we'd worked on a serial killer era but we want to book now. There's so much interested at this point and we were there. We kind of got tired of. We kinda got tired. Investigative reporters reporting on cases we handled. So it's our turn. I was GONNA ask you guys. What's next so it sounds like that? Sounds like a fascinating book We'RE GONNA discuss a lot of cases at book. I'm looking forward to that because one of the things I like most about malice is that you have these little asides you know throughout and and those sort of it pulls you in it draws you in. It's like it's like you're there you know because there's nothing happened a vacuum so you're working this case you're working other cases too. You don't just have like it's not like you're assigned homework. This is your one case. You'll work it till it either comes to a conclusion or whatever no there's this constant rotation and that's one thing. I hope that you'll sort of continued to do future Bush Tom when we were writing it. Thomson. I hate footnote. That's fine. That's not use footnotes. So that's when we decided to do that. A lot of positive comments on it really works at work so well and I. I really love that part of it and again it. It's a way to draw you in because again with footnotes like you say you don't like them. I understand why because it pulls you out of what you're doing you have to boom boom boom boom boom boom boom back. No not not so much a discovery. It's kind of like our conversation. Here is soon as one thing is mentioned. It sparks memories for me. Tommy say we're going to wrap this up but we're having you back. I mean that's that's a done deal right especially when the book comes out before then in for next season we're excited for for season five so we will have all of you back. It's been so fascinating I've so many more questions but but we'll save it for the next time. So thank you. Bob Souza Tom Lang and Joan. Renner Larry Yeah. And here's to Larry Cheers to Larry. The dating game killer was written and directed by Larry Brand and produced by Rebecca Reynolds Tracy Patent and Jim Carpenter for Hollywood and crime producers wished to thank retired. Lapd detective Tom Lang in Bob. Souza co-authors of malice in Wonderland and author and social historian. Joan rendered recorded and edited by Julianne. Nicholson and mixed by mark motto for the Invisible Studios West Hollywood executive producers Marshal. Louis Stephanie Gems and Air Non Lopez. I'm Lindsay Graham. The host of one reshow American scandal. We bring to life. Some of the biggest controversies in. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - (03-28-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - (03-28-19)

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Everybody's in first place except for the as who lost two games to the Mariners in Japan. But that's beside the point here. Baseball's always been a sport that kind of lends itself to optimism young with spring and hope springs eternal everybody thinking their team. Now, this could be different the younger players those free agents that we got, but you know, there are problems as we approach opening day pace play payroll disparity fading popularity among younger people in all of those are true. But that's not the whole story because you do have some star. Power here. Mookie Betts, Mike trout, Aaron judge Nolan aeronautical Bryce Harper. So even if you're skeptical about the rest of the season, don't let the bigger picture damp in that opening day buzz because it is fun. And you've got some good matchups today. You got sixteen games. You also have the Sweet Sixteen going on as well with Florida state, Gonzaga, produced, Tennessee, Texas, Tech, Michigan, Oregon and Virginia. But he got a couple of Cy Young matchups there. You have Jacob degrom going against max Scherzer. So you have the runner up against the eventual winner for the Cy Young Blake Snell against Justin Verlinde Cy Young versus the runner up from year ago. So also the baseball odds this year, it's been a long time since the Yankees have been there and the Anky opened the season as the betting favourite followed by the Red Sox and the Astro. So the three best teams three best. Odds are American League teams. Followed by the cubs in the dodgers throw in the Indians curious about the Phillies this year. Their next followed by the nationals. There are a lot of people picking the nationals to do. Well this year in imagine losing one of the best players in the game. And you might be better this year. But the national has got a lot of young talent. They still have my favorite pitcher in just max Scherzer. So it it could be it could be a fun season in Washington without the whereas Bryce going to end up is he gonna stay with an like they're done with that they moved on from that. But the nets got some pretty good odds here. Yes point, you said something that the Yankees haven't been in a while. I was like that doesn't sound right. So I check back had the Yankees have won one World Series out of the past eighteen World Series there one eighteenth which Brennan most franchises fine. It's weird. Yeah. We haven't had a repeat champ since the Yankees. Did it back in two thousand I believe so it's been eighteen. In years since repeat champ. And now see if that possibility happens this year. And the Red Sox though, you know, they kept everybody in place. But the you wonder what's going to happen? With Mukhi bats is David price a legitimate everyday guy, or you know, his e of number one starter number two starter. You've got Chris sale that you're signing him up long-term. But the Yankees the Yankees quietly if that's possible are the best team in baseball. Least according to Vegas with the odds already mcloughlin's got a poll question. I'm sure RG three Robert Griffin junior. The third is going to join us expected to be guess in the last hour. We're hoping for that no official word. But that's you know, all indications are leaning towards RG three joining us. The ravens quarterback later on Kevin Malala from the major league baseball network. Always entertaining. He'll join us. He'll set the table for baseball's opening day. Yes. Yes. Mclovin. Okay. Off of what you were talking about a minute ago. Just your opinion who's more likely to make the World Series, the Yankees or the Red Sox? This year that was the pre show debate over here. Because none of us understand. Why the Red Sox wouldn't be the favourite because they were so great last year. Eventually the Anki is going to get it right now. So I would say the Yankees. But you know, I still look at that pitching staff. And you know, that's where Boston you. You'll yet. Great pitching there. The Astros with great pitching. The dodgers have had great pitching. We're not quite sure with Clayton Kershaw. It feels like there's still that common denominator. Once I get to the playoffs. Once I get to that, you know, three games we have to win or seven game series. You know, pitching UC trumps everything. And that's why I always lean on those teams when you say can cause David price pitched. Well, if he didn't then I don't think the Red Sox are winning the World Series. You gotta get that bullpen you gotta get middle relievers. And I always start with I want to see what you're pitching staff is what's your ballpark that you play in does your pitching staff at that ballpark. And then do you have a couple of guys who were good in the clutch? That's what it comes down to the least for me. But I'd like to see how the Yankees do a healthy Yankee team. I think that I could see them as the team to be. Yes mcgowan. Okay. I guess lists related poll. Would you rather be a high and backup like RG three in Baltimore or start for team that you knows gonna win? Like Ryan Fitzpatrick in Miami. I want to start even if you know, it's a rebuilding process. Everyone even uses the Tango word, but but who doesn't wanna play I back of sweet job. You get paid. You might get in there. But I wanna play. It's not what I'm paid to be a backup. And I get to kinda mail it in and go in there, and I don't get hurt. I mean, I'm gonna play Nick foles could've stayed in Philadelphia. But he wanted to get paid. He wanted to start, and I don't know who would ever turn that down. What if it's a really dysfunctional situation? Say you know, when the cardinals were really bad the Bengals were really bad or teams that is there ever situation where you would go in. If you record a back, let's still wanna play even if it was the Browns a couple years ago it still wanna play, you know, Cody Kessler got a chance to start. Now, you can be a backup quarterback, but you got a chance to start, but it can ruin your like member David Carr, THAAD the Texans number one overall pick just got destroyed, but he got a chance to start. Now. When you start is that's more. Interesting question co you go back to Tom Brady and Brady telling me years ago, if he had been a first round pick he wouldn't have been successful. It's when you get the opportunity to start that's important. You can throw these guys in there. And they may not be ready to go. You know, it was Josh Rosen ready to go last year. Probably not. You know took Lamar Jackson a little time before he was ready to start. But you know, you got RG three there. And it feels like he's probably going to get some playing time this year. But you know, I wanna play even if it's a bad team. Yeah. I remember years ago we talked about on this show. There's a quarterback for the Tennessee titans named Billy Volk number. He had like eighteen touchdowns and ten picks in four he became a free agent at age thirty and I was like, oh he's going to get his own team. Everyone's gonna chance he signed to be a backup to Philip rivers for five years in San Diego. And then tapped out he never really played again. But he was a back of San Diego. Probably really enjoyed it. Mclovin has got that's like his guy who what else? Do you have mclovin? Okay. Which opening day is most exciting the NCAA tournament, the NFL or MLB, and I kind of asked is anyone voting MLB anymore? No. It's not even in the conversation is no why is that? I don't know. I think that's what baseball is trying to figure out here. It was the only thing. I mean, I really cared about opening day. I cared about baseball. I, but I was invested in a team. And I think being invested in a team if you're in a pennant race if you have some players going to the all star game. Then it's kind of you know, it's fuller. Now, you're kinda watching and I don't know if you know younger fans care about teams as much as they do individuals and baseball trying to market individuals because that's where the NBA has been successful. But I don't know if you know, my son doesn't say, hey, you want to sit down and watch the Red Sox play. But he would say do you want to go to a game? Then he would go to a game. I just don't think that you sit down in this day and age, and you can, you know, have this occupy your brain for three hours. I just I don't I don't think younger fans watch that way. And I I get the feeling like even when they watch the NFL they may watch the red zone because it gives you that game this game highlight and. It's more rapid fire instead of what to just settle in and sit back kickback for three hours in watch this game doesn't happen. Yes. He it's funny that three hours of a baseball game sounds like an eternity. But three hours of golf's watching golf sounds like the perfect Sunday. Like man, that'd be great. You sit on the couch, maybe fall asleep. Maybe wake up still keep watches. It's perfect. It's weird. How the aesthetics of golf or so pleasing? You're just there's tranquility like going on a picnic inside your house, but they're playing in a in a place that's beautiful, and the weather's nice and just how they shoot it. Everything's pretty everybody seems to be in a good mood. You're playing golf the sun is shining. Maybe if baseball players the pitcher got one pitch and the battery at one chance to hit it. And that was it. It's either hitter and out hitter in out, you know, because engulf it's not like, you're watching them. Take the same swing over and over and over and over again in baseball you good God. This is the seventeenth foul ball. But was that the ambient sound is small stream of taking a whiz kids haven't through. And I thought you would have shown from Augusta there the Rinku. I can't find that CD house Guston. Yeah. Now, it's it is a tradition like any other. But if baseball baseball keeps kind of tinkering with things, they're they're still trying to figure this out if you said. Two strikes instead of three strikes or three balls instead of four does that help, you know, do we speed up here? I would just love for everybody to kind of get in and do their job. That's all. In the thing with football. Is you know that there's going to be action? You know, we can see the play clock. So there will be action. When you're watching baseball. You don't know if there's any action, you're not going. Okay. Here comes it. Now, it might be on a three two pitch. But it could be a walk in football. It's you know, play clock winding down and you're going to see action. And then we get to review the action. And then we get ready for the next play. So how they time it out gives you more bang for your buck. Yeah. For the players themselves in baseball. Don't know if there's gonna be any action how many strikeout pitchers of they've been like Nolan Ryan the outfield can stand there and entire game. And maybe maybe one ball set his way. Yes. Mclovin of another. Yeah. I do I love fritzy on top of modern baseball as always, okay? If you're gonna have a mulligan. Wow. That's early for audit. Fritzy segment. We're all the say, by way, we all know eighties baseball like the back of our hands. Like, I could tell you the starting lineup at the nineteen Ninety-two Padres. I can't tell you. Yeah. But why why are you taking a shot at fritzy he's the worst of the worst because he stuck in the eighties? Yes. All right. I got I got a quiz for you. Just this is you weren't prepared for this. Okay. This is not a take home tests. This is a pop quiz. Do they still do that in in school? Like you come in. Oh, yeah. And they have quizzes or surprise quizzes. All they do. Okay. I used to Ben I'd hear that. Teach. The words came out in slow motion. Time for pop with. And then I just my stomach. I'd have my stomach sink. Yes. I was equally prepared for pop quiz plan to raise. So my stress level remained zero okay? Do you guys know who the manager is of the Baltimore Orioles? Paulie, Buck Showalter. No. Oh, really? Yup. He got fired. Yeah. No, Brandon Hyde. I know who is the manager of. The Los Angeles angels. Like, social social. Nope. You sure brattle osmosis. Now, this we know who he is manager of the Astros. He went to Dartmouth a year behind me. The Astros is AJ Hinch. That's not true. The Minnesota Twins manager Kelly. Nope. Ron Gardenhire my Gardenhire. No gardy. Rocco? Ball del Valle. Really? Yeah. You're raised late hitting mouth fielder. Yeah. Let's Tampa Bay rays. Tampa Bay rays is not Joe mad. Yes. Bill williams. No jackson. No zobrist over. Kevin cash. Oh, I didn't know Kevin cash. Nobody. He's been a manager. I think he was with the Phillies. Yeah. He's been a manager before the Rangers manager this year. So it's not not run Washington. We're on Washington. No. It's it's Chris Woodward Woodward. Okay. But wait, there's more. Let me see. The reds manager. Renite? No, David bell. Oh, buddy, bell, son. Yeah. I remember him. And. Cardinals manager. Mike Feeny still write that one. No, no, Mike, shalt Scheldt, get adding. No shelter. He's made that name up. No only methods. I am she'll tree. So it's so far we're doing well. The Padres manager coach e no, no Chee. The Padres manager Garry Templeton, no. Andy green good for him. A nice gig. I got a nice house. Let me see about the Braves manager. He might have been manager of the year last year. Brian. Can no the catcher there right floors. No. He's with the dolphins. Brian cox. Brian Cox know that maybe is like bobby's bobby's brother Doyle Murray. Nope. Brian snicker? What snicker snicker and chill? If you have shields go against signature shelter. It sounds like we could be flirting with a dangerous word there. You don't know Scheldt. You don't know snicker. Yes. Boy, you could be punking us and making all those. That'd be none. The wiser. More quizzes coming up on the program. You can still vote for meet Friday. And we have there been over a million votes. So far for meet Friday songs, and we're gonna be we're going to cut the field in half. We have our elite eight it goes down to the final four. Yes. He do you want to guess what the closest races right now? I'm gonna take a break. And then we're gonna come back with that also mentioned be our live dot com. You can go there, and you can stream the show also audience channel to Thirty-nine direct TV and anything else that needs to be mentioned here mentioned we'll feral at the top of the hour. And I think Robert Griffin junior the third does he know that mclovin calls him Robert Griffith junior. The third down because we have the Cleveland Browns jersey over there. That's still one of my favorite pieces of memorabilia in here. Robert Griffith junior. The third I wonder how many times he gets called something like that. Well last game Dan Patrick show. Brought to you by ER soft innovative hybrid come cover and graphene infused ill soft fans core. What this means is Calloway's done it again a distance ball with some feel around the green spin touch around the greens Calloway's longest ball was soft. Feel features triple track technology for improved alignment. Get our seat today. Callaway golf dot com. We're just getting started twenty after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick show if you could live your most prosperous life. What would it look like would you maybe open your own business or buy new home? Go back to college, maybe pay off your loans and save for retirement. I know I'm man I could be three out of those four easy. 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Today's the last day you can vote on the elite eight as we move to the final four in Minneapolis. Seton? Would you like to give us an update any surprises in there? Yeah. I mean, I would say this surprise right now is that the closest race? We have is the one seed tribulations, which is Kenny and California up against the number three seed running down at dream, which is John Kane. Who's to say that's it's the closest race. But it's about four thousand oh that separates them. Okay. But that's the closest race. But these things they do shift. I mean, you could buy this time tomorrow running down a dream could be leading who knows the biggest runaway. And I'm sorry Ryan in Iowa. But his succeed. Hello is just getting pummeled right now by Holly and meet on that's about thirty thousand votes. Yeah. You know, Holly. When we first heard Holly singing meet on take off of Aerosmith's dream on. And then I just wanted to know when she got to that high part where Steven Tyler Jakes shoe, and I go if she nails that then she. She's going to be a number one seat. And I would love to have had the video of Holly in Pennsylvania, singing nece. Jar. His crew. One of those moments where you go. I think she may have just one. With just that right there that that little spot right there. That segment I thought man, she she may have just won the meet madness bracket challenge. But you can still vote today on the Dan Patrick show app on also some new audience members on B our live dot com. They wanted to know what is it mean? Suck it back row. Well, where I'm positioned. And then on the other side of the glass is Seton and paulie in the front row in the back row is mclovin. And fritzy, and I guess this came from a song years ago that we got with just a toss in lyric that had to do with the back row of fritzy, mclovin. Everybody starts to call. Tell paul. Get back in and it was just sprinkled in there throwaway line. And we're like, wait. What did he say? Suck evac background. Yes. Mclovin. No. It's really asking. Everyone knows what that means. Is this true that there? There was true. Because I was told make sure you reintroduce the Dan end so people who are just consuming the show for the first time, they know what we're talking about. And who you guys are. So I was asked that yesterday. Yes. Paulie three years ago. There was that run on who stats would you want songs and that was one of the early entries? Golden road brewing. We've told you about the craft beer love this beer, mango cart, unique brew received a gold medal at the twenty eight world beer Cup inspired by the iconic fruit cart vendors in Los Angeles, mango card and credibly crisp refreshing, light weet ale, bursting with lots of fresh mango, and there's also will pop session IP a Hoppy refreshing, wildly era Matic tropical and citrus. Character vailable all fifty states. Brewed to stand out California inspired golden road brewing, fresh craft Pearson's twenty eleven mclovin. I'm offended that you thought that maybe I was manipulating the audience in saying that all get opportunity. Yeah. Dalvin to the history of science background. Yes. Yes, by we didn't set on a poll. Okay. How about if you could have a mulligan on your NCAA tournament bracket, which number one seed would you pick? Or would you pick a non number one seat? So Duke, North Carolina, Gonzaga Virginia or a lower. After what you've seen so far. I feel like I'm terrified to do. Now. Well, they survived the scare every team. It feels like who wins. The national championship has a scare. And then all of a sudden something clicks. And then, you know, they've got Virginia Tech coming up and Virginia Tech won't be a pushover. I think duke's favored by seven but. Virginia Tech beat Duke earlier this year Wednesday on wasn't in there. But Virginia Tech, I don't think they had their starting point guard. So, you know on a neutral site, and we know what you you're going to try to do against two of all of these teams. It feels like we know the blueprint to beat Duke. And not that you can put that into play because you have to have the players to be able to put that into play. But we know make them shoot jumpers. And then keeps I on RJ barrette off the boards, but you also have to be able to score against them as well. And they're pretty good defensive team. What I change anything LSU is is interesting and Florida state. Those are the two interesting teams for me that they they can win a game with their talent. Purdue against Tennessee. I'm not sure what I have in Tennessee, Purdue is better than what I thought Texas Tech. Michigan. That's going to be a slug fest, and that may not be pretty gun zag might be the most balanced team in the turnament offensively defensively. Virginia. We're still not sure about Virginia North Carolina love, I wouldn't be changing anything. I don't think. I guess Florida state. If you said take somebody's not a number one seed who can win at all. I'd go Florida state. Yeah. Mclovin. I think I might advance Purdue based on what they did Villanova. Tell me about Purdue yet. Are you? I don't know of Villanova was that good. They have a great coach. But I don't know, you know, they lost players to the NBA. Seth Davis picked Purdue in his final four and got a lot of flack for. But now looks possible. I just don't know produce big man played well last game. What's his name harms harms to as to age? Carson Edwards is really talent Virginia. Let's see what else Kentucky against Houston. It's sneaky good because we don't know much about Houston right now Auburn against Caroline auburn's gonna put up a ton of threes in that game. But you can put up a ton of threes. You gotta make a few of them. Texas tech. You know, I I will watch that game. Watch them all jerk. Culver I think is a really talented player. So that that'll be fun. Michigan state against LSU. Yeah. Oh, I wouldn't change. I don't think I changed much. Although I certainly give Florida state a whole lot more credibility. Club. We need some movement the brackets everybody has all four final four teams. Everybody is not suffered any losses yet. The whole thing's all crowded. Yeah. And that's why you know, the ratings are up this year, which I found interesting because it's been predictable. And I'm not sure why the ratings are up if it's been this predictable. And I know that you've got Zion. I just don't know yet, John Moran. But other than that. There wasn't a a tune in factor with any other player. I don't think taco fall if they were going on to this next round. You know, we would be curious after beating Duke, Johnny Dawkins son, very talent. But I don't know if you have those guys where you go. It's gonna be fun to watch that guy in it. Feels like Duke overshadowed everybody this year Zion overshadowed everybody this year, and it felt like Duke was Golden State except for you can knock them off because it's one in done. Whereas if this was the best of seven, I don't think Duke would lose for two and Pat forty has a column it also speaks to how much do we really care about the shoe things? LSU coach, and what's going on behind closed doors and who's getting money and Michael von ADI and all that it's not keeping people from tuning in playing with brackets and watching games. I don't know if that would bother me or doesn't bother me. I mean, I'm I watch LSU and okay their coach may have committed a crime or violation here. Okay. But I'm not tuning into sea coaches. You know, that's the only constant. We have with the turnament usually is all it's Rick Pitino 's Louisville cardinals against Tom Izzo. Michigan state's like that's how we sell the game. Mike shusha? Well, not this year with Mike chef skiied Zion. Williamson and Mike shoshefsky and Duke facing now four to St. Leonard Hamilton, but that's I think we just tune in. Because we want to be entertained have some fun. You get a legitimate champion. But I don't think you're going. You know, I'm not gonna watch LSU because their coach probably paid for player, Oregon. They probably paid for a couple of players or errors on it's right near as didn't get. Yep. On you're right. I think people are not embarrassed at their teams involved in a scandal anymore in college football because anyone who's a big fan of program like they should probably be getting paid anyway. And now we just got caught I'd prefer not to get caught. Like if you're fan, North Carolina football. Well, let's let's win eleven game. We get better guys if we're going to be paying form. Yeah. Like, we're. We're paying for players and we're not getting good players. Yeah. See it's like finding out that your team was paying players to go. There is like finding out a baseball players using steroids is like, yeah. No kidding. Big big deal. That's kind of what they all. Do. I had somebody bring this up to me about hair steroids gone from baseball. I go. I don't think. So. Well, haven't heard anybody big names who tested positive and now, you know, here's what you have to understand. If it was always the players in those who were concocting, you know, these potions for them to take they were UC two years ahead. Two years ahead in the Olympics. You know, you're this is big money. So just imagine that how much money is at stake. If you can take me from being a ten million dollar player to a twenty five million dollar player. And I give you a, you know, a share of this. You're going to be coming up with something that's not detectable. And by the time. It is detectable you moved onto something else. I told you story about a player that I meant he was in the minor leagues. And I said, you know, hey, you guys get tested all the time. He goes. Yeah. But that's that doesn't stop these guys. And I said, well, these guys goes we'll meet too. I said what do you use? He said, you can use steroids. You can take a drink. They had a some kind of drink that they were taking that would mask this. So what happens is they take a urine sample in a stool sample believe it or not. And then they'll analyze it. These laboratories are these guys are coming up with these drugs. And then they'll say, all right. Hey that you've got a red flag here, and they'll go back, and then they'll try to modify it. So you don't get caught. And that's why I go back to Rafeal Palmeiro. He had the money in the wherewithal in the means to be able to come up with something that wouldn't going to be detectable. And he got busted for what Ben Johnson got busted back in the Seoul Olympics point. So if a current and mobile. MLB players taking some type of supplement that mimics what steroids does but is not a flagged on the test. Is that person cheating? If you're not failing test is it cheating. Like, let's say you're taking some that's one element away from steroids and that elements taken out and doesn't flag the testing process. It's only cheating if you're caught. Now, you've taken that possibility away you're getting the same effect that maybe all the guys team other aren't taking is it. I don't know if that's cheating. We're one. But then you force the other guys to do it as well. You know, if somebody says if I'm competing with you, and all of a sudden you come in, and you look different. And then you're hitting home runs, you know, opposite field one one arm one hand home runs on. What was he then you're forced to then decide if you wanna take it or not? And I think that's really what the steroid. Are did it it forced a lot of guys to do it at a necessity or they were going to lose their jobs because you had guys who weren't great players who became better players because they were using steroids. But is it there? Yes. Because there's money there. It's like saying, you know, they still cheating on Wall Street. Yeah. Yeah. There. They do it better. But would baseball in that amount of money, and what happens is and this minor leaguer told me this. He said once we know what it is. Then everybody wants to do it. But you have this. He called it a mob mentality from the standpoint of you don't rat on anybody. I said, well, you guys in the mob rat on each other all the time he said, but we're not against you know, it's not against anybody else. You're just you're you're using that. Hey, can I get some of that? How do I get some of that? Where's it delivered? You know, who's who's the middleman? So it is there. Yes. So welcome to opening day, Dan, which matchup are you most like to? That's nationals. Yeah. That got you. Yeah. Yeah. Astros raise. Well. I was accused of having my head in the sand back when when choir was, you know, having on his home run run is home run chase. And I'd have people say you were one of his good friends, and you didn't know and djembe and you're right. I did not I didn't even know what I was looking for other than they looked a little behemoth. Ian, they look like superheroes. And but I didn't I didn't get it. I wasn't quite sure where it was. And then when I did I remember the Commissioner baseball saying, and we had a private conversation. And then he said, hey, I'm trying and I said you gotta go to the clubhouse. If you go to the club's clubhouse manager, then you'll find out what you wanna find out. And that's what eventually did because they were doing a pretty good job. And then all of a sudden you've got Manny Ramirez, taking you know, for Tilleke drugs to get pregnant, and he was. Thirty six kids. In his second. Trimester. And I always thought a manual Ramirez taking for Tilleke drugs, and it goes back to what who's your Tracy Morgan. Fritzy, your impersonation? So my goal get pregnant his point. I always think of that when I thought Manny Ramirez walk into the plate in his second. Trimester. Salo to Manny Ramirez Ramirez. Sparrow in Louis all with the Knicks trying to someone go half on a baby. What? All right. We'll take a break phone calls coming up. I think we've settled on a poll question we got to play the day as well. Is that right, mclovin? Yeah. If you have a mall again on your NCA tournament bracket, who are you picking results may surprise. Okay. 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I would like to know what the players think if you you get up there. You know, swing the bat. I'm gonna throw it. I gotta throw strikes. I want you to swing the bat. We need a little bit more action. Plus in today's baseball. You don't have a sacrifice bunt. You don't move the ball. You know, move the runner over by hitting it to the other side of the infield. At least you got movement years ago. Now, it's I'm gonna throw it hard. And you're gonna swing really hard. And it just feels like there's even less movement than there used to be. Now, you do have some pretty high highs with all the home runs, and you've got guys where you get to see the radar gun that they're throwing ninety nine. Not that ninety nine looks different than ninety four folks. Unless you're standing at the plate, it doesn't look different. So you we get caught up in. Let's show the radar gun. And then we all my God. He's throwing ninety nine. But it doesn't look any different than ninety four the home runs. 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Who Is The BEST Batman of All Time? - Movie Podcast

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Who Is The BEST Batman of All Time? - Movie Podcast

"Hello. Bat Boys and girls. It's me your bat host Adam today we're talking mostly about the greatest superhero ever created. No not spider man's aunt Madame Web. I forget if that's true or not. We're talking about Batman and I'm joined by a Batman Related Group of panelists, Alana, Pierce, Batman Aficionado, and balloon owner number one. Hi What's up? There it is. A lease Williams hanging apologised. That's I know her does she introduce herself and returning to the show after very long baby related hiatus Dan. Schneider everybody I brought my stuff. Noises. That actually. Gotham city thing to like duct tape a corpse. Trend. Well. Welcome. Everybody obviously, DC fandom happened this last week and I'll get the disclaimer out of the way we are owned by the same company who has a bunch of. Any of that they have no say over this content. All of our opinions are that of our own and I'm GONNA go ahead and say I watched it kind of in the background until. Something big popped up but overall I thought it was a pretty good event as far as online. Conventions go not too bad. What did you guys think did anyone even get the Washer or do you just watch the highlights on Youtube I kind of cut everything afterwards. But am really interested in how people are executing these virtual conventions because. There might be a lot more of that in the future. So some of that stuff was intriguing to me, but I really just highlights on. Youtube afterwards. Sweet bids. Yeah found that the like linking segments really cheesy. It was like it felt like it was made for kids and I had to keeping like it's not three. It's not the same show. They have a wad of padding they have to do because there's a really long event, but a lot of it was just like clearly done in front of bad green screens and just just just cheesy in a little bit difficult to watch through. But for the most pot. For, a Saturday, there were like tons of really cool announcements like the actual meat of the show was great. Masud does just watching the whole thing was grading. I, was impressed I watched a bunch of the panels live and some trailers are just kind of caught after the fact. And I was impressed that aid the site didn't go down. Despite the with the people going to it and I was also impressed by kind of like how polished and technical issue free it was. The Alana was saying they definitely delivered on the announcements and the reveals it wasn't just there were a lot of those panels that were kind of a bit of Oh we've all we've gathered a group of people here and they're just going to talk for twenty minutes about how they're excited. There's no real meat to this panel and I kind of okay with that because I like the spectacle of seeing all those people. But at the same time they did deliver in saying we've got actual content to show you actual trailers and that's that's a lot of panels at actual comic cons and stuff is just. Note famous and pretty people shooting the Shit for half an hour and then rolling some bureau. Yeah it's a little different though in person right where you waited in line for four hours and then you're sitting five hundred feet away you're like. In the same room as Bryan Cranston this is amazing. Oh my gosh really matters. Yeah. Whereas there's something different seeing them in their home with a Shitty Webcam Shot. On set with their phone or whatever. It's like there's something missing there. But I think you're right at least for what it was. They actually did a pretty good job. Did they managed to incorporate on Cuna in any way? Yeah. There were some moments where they had like prerecorded videos fans like there was in the wonder woman panel. There was a really fun segment where it was like different people dressing in their wonder woman 'cause play around the world asking questions I have to say I think one of the best panels I watched, which actually felt like quite media and maybe because of Neil gaiman was the salmon panel. Because he's so eloquent well-spoken. Just talked in depth about everything. So that's like an audio play that they're doing. I think so on audible I think I saw the billboard the other day I was driving back in San. Man. Oh, my God, they're they're. It's been out for some time. Now I got it. I just haven't listened to it yet. But it's The it's not the movie or show that they were show about doing for years yet. So I guess this is we're one step closer. We'll get there speaking of the announcements though these were kind of paste out through the day. So I pick some of the highlights there was a lot of stuff but one of the biggest ones Ben Affleck is coming back as Batman. As Snyder vs Batman, the upcoming flash movie. Which will also be starring Michael Keaton. So there are a multi verse happening. Actually really exciting. And I. think that's a fun way to deal with the fact that we've had what lights five Batman's. Why not pull him Michael Keaton. They'll come I think that's cool. I added lightning flash specifically flashpoint stories of really cool and have dabbled in that kind of stuff. Before with you know different iterations, of Batman, specifically being in flashpoint. Yeah, I think it's cool to I definitely didn't expect. To come back though I thought that was the thing where it had been established that he was done and he didn't want to do it in the first. Like early rumors about that that's what I felt like not link. There was a bur- a bridge burnt but maybe the bridge was just kind of Some water overrunning in. Some alcoholism. Yeah. That was one of the room is he became an alcoholic maybe maybe we just done Ben Affleck duddy and none of that was true and it was just called all time. Before Because people are going to say in the comments that there is a Sandman series coming I didn't even get a chance to clarify that there's like a Netflix's show. Talking about for years. That's The panel was like. Man got it. Yeah well. Yeah that's. Hell making a lot of this stuff for a long time. Now it's it's on its way but yeah, the the Ben Affleck's I was interested in there was rumors that obviously he's going through some family stuff and that had something to do with it. So maybe he wasn't in the best head space, it'd be playing a The basically the lunatic Tony. Jaa Abuse. It was strange because they were sort of catching them as the Tony Stark of the DC. Damage. This is what we call this episode. Don't call us that will that will get the millions. But it seems like he's in a better place. Now I guess in his personal life and everything else I mean isn't he dating the Gulf for Ma? Yeah. Babe. Photographs yes. He he is fluent in Spanish I know that so Yeah maybe maybe he did blow his a Batman debut based on just stuff that was going on but now I think that is cool that he was saying like hey I'm at least willing to come back in some capacity so and the fact that. It's not so sacred. I'm actually okay with this we'll talk more about this later but marvel is this this tight nip thing and DC. Just sort of like whatever who cares. Just do it to suicide squad movies in a row, and we'll have some of the same cast and it doesn't matter because we're going to watch it and that's the way comic book Solitu-. Is like the changes all the time this year this hero models like we will have a well executed twenty year plan in DC variety and I'm glad to have both of these things existing alongside each other frankly yeah. He's having companies do the same thing would be boring, right? Yeah. Why not? Why not do something a little different it Sounds like the fact that also it seems like a difference in creative behind, it might have spurred his decision of Oh I'm interested in working with the director or the fact that Michael Keaton's involved in need maybe they're doing some kind of bat that averse thing he's like Oh. Yeah. I do want to be I don't want to sit out what seems like it's going to be a cultural phenomenon. I would maybe be perceived as a wet blanket for sitting out because I think Michael Keaton be heralded for doing his return. Yeah. Does support. News actually accepted me. The most was pulling out the guy from the ninety S in. Keaton seems like so much fun. A mole. But like maybe there are more of them. We just don't know if there's a whole bat knauss Clooney's there like. I would absolutely love that is Melissa playing the flash and. Rush. Back Yeah I liked it. I was there. There's so much of this going on when they first announced that I thought it was Ben Affleck on the TV show the flash. I I couldn't imagine I couldn't. Exactly. I couldn't imagine them being like I'm sure they're like, Hey, do you wanna be the TV shows like hell? No. Is there a TV show he has? No but. Yeah with with you Dan I think that's cool and a lot of that is an amazing idea I hope. We see more Batman I will actually I'll send I. Don't know if you've seen it Alana there's that. Video they did wear It's like I think it's Terry from Batman beyond an old members all the old Batman different styles all come into the cave. That's cool. I haven't seen. It's really Rad. It's it means one of those things where. Knowledge in this, it was an animated. I WANNA say comic con video they did a long time ago. They do those everyone's while for this. I don't know if you caught it at least during the the show they had. They almost did like a mystery science theater thing with old old man, Bruce and I keep butchering his name. What's his from beyond the I? Think it's Syria, McGinnis. Yes. Tara McGuinness says, yeah. I kept WANNA say Tim but yeah, the Terry McGinnis, then they're vamping. Old Adam West Batman. It wasn't it was. It was it was just a nice little interstitial. He's like, why are they stealing fish is like this is a different joker that's what he does. It's like okay different times. But. Yeah. Sorry. Moving onto back to the announcements. So last bit of Ben Affleck Batman were getting because we're not done with him There's going to be four hour cut of matters version of the. Day Trio Max. I believe in twenty twenty one dear God. To existence isn't it being released as four one hour chunks? That isn't broken. That is a way that is the way to watch it because my God no, one can sit through four hours of. Or anything or politics only Lord of the Rings. I. Think that's a really interesting way to go about airing something like that is to I didn't Tarantino do that with one of his movies recently, Glenn? The hateful eight or weren't just kind of a weird way to break up a feature film into a couple of parts to get people into it. Is that says I think entrance I think it. May, think with. Digital streaming yes. I'm sure they'll do a theater event where xander stares at you the whole time and he make sure you understand why he did what he did which usually comes down to I thought it looked cool. Be Interesting in terms of how he's structuring each of those four parts because the theoretically they would each have a beginning, middle climax and end. Maybe theoretically. Better it would would have a beginning middle and end not just in right in the middle of a scene. The our market thick I theoretically I mean this is again, it's all in the theater at theoretical space. You know you think about something like kill bill volume one in two or it's one cohesive story but then you still feel like you're building to climax at the end of that first one, hundred feel like its own complete narrative will Zach Snyder make these four Hours feel like complete narratives or will they stop abruptly stay tuned back Viewers. See It'd be cool I. Think it would be like a really impressive storytelling feet. If you watched if you watch the end of the first one and you felt like Shit and then you watch the end of the second one and you're like damn. Even. More for it right. So like he just has to go on what already exists. That is understanding I. There's obviously the CG stuff steppenwolf looks better. Because they showed less. Made them lists spent. Yeah didn't they spend like thirty million dollars into this snyder cut Rodin believe all of it on. And there's you. And there's no no just weeden stuff in it. Right I. Don't know. I think I read that. He did not use any of the judge just we. I don't know how you accomplish that. But there's a whole back story for Cyborg that we're getting apparently the flash goes back in time at some point this year right Dan will be the Lord of the Rings of Justice League. Movies. and. General. About. The existence of. I'm. I'm just happy we we're. We're in a we're in a situation where the sort of thing can exist. It's so weird right where this movie came out and it was just panned. It. May it made money but they put it. There's just so much turmoil around this production, and then there's this mythical snyder cut where it's also like he has had multiple chances to prove himself that he can make competent the Superhero action movie and some people like in a lot of people don't. Known as the greatest filmmaker of all time that you'd be like, yes. Please come back and Rica Movie Francis Ford Coppola or something like that. Or. Ridley Scott People that have done similar kind of things. On Yeah. I WanNa just seems weird to throw in after the sky. Sorry go ahead. please. Go. Ahead. I feel like I. Also lukewarm. I think the same as Dan like I. Think this is interesting. It's an interesting cultural moment and I have some concerns about what this means after talking to a few people in the film industry about like the fan demand for this cut. Does that mean that this starts a president of? This actor in this movie, can we get a cut without them that we're GONNA release on streaming services like that potentially has some scary repercussions but I think that especially being four hours like I feel like. I'm going to watch it and a lot of people are even the people who say it is a really interesting cultural moment and it's also just so public streaming services like the timing of it being coming out in the year that it is just walks absolutely. Perfectly. So I feel like it's probably realistically not going to be good. But it is suddenly interesting. Agreed traff after four hours I feel like Stockholm Syndrome kicks in. The, this is all I have and. It's this this or do I go to the drive in or watch a Russian? Cam Version of new mutants. Choices now. Either way. Sorry go ahead. You're no good I was gonna ask the least what your final thoughts are you. Transition. To different topic. Dark. Side. What? I may be on the more side of my excitement I think is growing for the Snyder cut if I'm being frank and that might just be the the followed of quarantine or I'm slowly losing my mind any crime something that feels new original is stirring and excitement in me I'm definitely in Alana's camp of I. Don't like what it potentially means for an you know an audience or online community to get into a tizzy about something, and then have a fit and demand that a movie is re cut and Situa- I. Mean there's nothing new about recounting movie we got the Roque Cut. X. Men. Or was it Sent to her still. And like Obviously nothing new. I. Think because of the circumstances of this production in the problems that mired it, it's a special case where there's a lot of drama around that. So of course, it's it's a big deal, but you know hopefully doesn't like you're saying Cetinje precedent for that and it would be a dangerous dangerous precedent to start until just look fans dictate what artists are making absolutely, and I do like when you know I liked really George, Miller getting a second shot with Mad Max. That was really really cool. Show forth. But that original story in the time that had passed the technology that was now available. I thought that was pretty cool. This isn't really that situation. Nevertheless, I kind of like how dark the Snyder trailer looks comparatively, I'm into that I mean, this is style is super dark, overly serious. Everything's going to be four hours because everything slim. Tell me a two hour movie I. Mean The thing that I'll say the for exact snyder every other action director might hide their action making not visible or shaky Cam Zach cider doing slim. Oh, and you can see it all shirt. He's not he's not a great use of color and yeah, I like the dock stuff to like. It's that's why I keep saying no matter what it's going to be interesting like it doesn't mean it's going to be good necessarily but I have no doubt that it will be interesting to look at. I'm excited to talk to people about it I. Think it's just one of those cultural things fascinate. It will be digital water cooler talk. To other second chances suicide squad to also just known as the suicide squad from James Gunn. got a little bit of behind scenes footage. Not much though just kinda showing the characters that one I thought was interesting because same sort of thing saying almost the same everything's a everything's a do over feel like Joel is back everybody he's back. Let's see what he did the cost. Is just it's just. It's just everyone. I know watching that carry for Real I couldn't even keep track it just keeps going. Pete Davidson come from Yeah Yeah Pete Davidson. Dan. Ginsberg. I think one of the things that excites me the most about this is like it makes me think of deadpool two when they were just randomly killing off these characters and funny and interesting ways I think that's maybe something expect them to look forward. To in this film is just how they kill Nathan fillion and how they kill a Johnson because they can't have these people coming back time after time. But I think the spectacle of seeing these people know come to their in will be the one of the more fun parts of this film. Yeah what's going to happen man? That's what we all want. To sue I wanted I wanted to address the controversy that is POLKA DOT man so Four reference there there is the one of the. Brothers I forget who's the kingsman brother. The Guy, the all those guys I forget their names either one of them was in Star Wars episode three I'm doing I'm just doing a comparison Kinga. I'm looking at my xp or whatever it's the the edgerton brother. Sorry it was more than. Taryn Edgerton so There's there's his brother. There's the older role in Joel Edgerton. So the story goes Joel. Edgerton was in Star Wars episode three and he plays the young Luke's on. And because it was in that role Disney base that you could never be in another star wars movie ever again, these are the rules. If you play character wants that's it. polka-dot man from what I understand was one of the jokers crazy recruits and the dark. Knight. Film with Heath Ledger, and they're they just brought him back as polka-dot man and not not a shred of controversy. Drum it up out. Yeah. Let's stop that controversy. I'll stop the petition. Let's get on I. They also had. Thomas, Wayne, was in the dark knight rises as just a completely different actors like. I just think it's it's crazy. DC's going nuts I think he's casting. The Suicide Squad Dark Knight Pokemon. pokemon man. Connections. Polka Dot Polka dot man what does polka-dot man do? It doesn't need to. Show. It's looking at polka-dot man. What does he do? He is like he's definitely a minor Batman Villain I feel like I've been in comics before but. What are his calendar? Man. SORTA he's like on the on the side, but I think he's dead. if I remember correctly. Okay He. He basically just has a cool costume with advanced technology from the. I feel like the power it'd be lines of light in your eyes so you see. Well his POLKA DOTS NAH advanced technology which controls for the costumes belt. When attached to his costume? They were in up at once removed they would enlarge become various different devices which could aid in his crime sprees most notably a flying saucer which he uses a getaway vehicle. Cool. Though so he pulls the dots off of himself yes, and then they transform all right I. Guess that's it. I only the. Difference areas. David. Air You mentioned that he'd be like that sounds stupid. You tell the James. I have. Also bringing in King Shark. because. One of my. Favorites album. Trust gun here. 'cause guardians of the galaxies fucking stupid to. To really excellent films out of that. So. Why not? Why not? Yeah. Up Up the crazy take the weirdness to the next level than just go you know full full on raising with it I think. You know be the opposite muscle. Seems, seems he's having a good time. So I'm looking for more and then the stream. Ended sorry. I'm just moving things along it in me to cut you off. Go ahead. I was GONNA say it does seem like he actively searches the bottom of the barrel. Thinking wants something obscure that I can take and I can make it into something really really cool and I appreciate that so much. With the Batman Teaser who? Comes across like he's like listen I get that we all like superheroes but they're really stupid. This is stupid. All of these people don't make any sense. Let's just throw them together and make it probably than trying to take it too. seriously. He's like that that Superhero Group of superheroes that you didn't think were were that cooler interesting I'm GonNa show you how they are. Yeah. That's really great and the. He made his brother a little hairy creature again, right some sort of little rat rat man. He's weasel. Do. You will be an all my movies, but you will only way. Maybe, he'll make apes movie speaking of. The the stream ended with the Batman they call it a teaser I trailer. Absolutely trailer. This is apparently only from I guess somewhere between twenty five and fifty percent of the movie being shot. But the Batman got its debut and this one is being directed by Matt Reeves of Fame Eliecer. You're excited about that. You're my apes connoisseur. because. James You know obviously I love the apes movies. So he's really been taking this as an opportunity to to kind of weird. He's Chinese throw it in my face, but I, believe that apes walked. So the Batman could run a guy. Matt Reeves is going to take everything. He learned making apes clearly he he wouldn't wouldn't get Andy Circus. As Alfred if he hadn't built that relationship is Andy Searches Second Directory Unit on the Batman I? Don't know. And we know Alfred, is the most important crux of any Batman series is. Alfred important that the guy that played Henry Mike, all the nineties movies they kept bringing back. They were like there's no better. Alfred. why I don't I'm I. Can I assume everyone here enjoyed the teaser, but it definitely got a lot. I. Think most people came out pretty positive on this any. reservations. People had of Robert Pattinson seemed to be taken care of even though he only says. Three words perhaps in the whole thing. Reading is good for Batman. Yeah I've seen some criticism of Pattinson like people saying he's like to feminine something on a big enough me and Michael Keaton wasn't big. I think. It's also I believe this is one of the earlier years of him being Batman, which is similar to Keaton's position. Is that he's not like full tank yet he's just getting so I was into it. Beats. The hell out of that dude. I felt like was the brutal icing on the cake that like you needed to confirm that Patterson was going for that but I am mostly excited about I. Think it's Dana. Dana Donna. I absolutely love him I think he's one of my favorite actors and I feel like he's just not enough stuff like he's I feel like just I always want to see him in all things as soon as he was announced ridler I was like, Hey, this is going to kill any such a good actor. Serial killer. Face. Covering his face up in this trailer a lot. But I think just looking at him, he's putting unhinged vibe. He pulls off like I just think he's fucking thing. So. There is it. The movie is what movie is it where he does play a serial killer? Is it prisoners with Hugh? Jackman that's He is a yeah he is a suspected. Serial Killer Hugh Jackman is he assumes is the one who did it and is like convinced but he has Sort of barrier between him, and if that's the case study for him as ruler I, don't know if he's like Edward Enigma ridler or was it Nah Edward Nash or something the other pops them but like. I. Think that's a fantastic one. I didn't think the riddles that they put in the trailer for that difficult. Somebody already solved one. James said Demeans somebody saw the riddle and I was like, what is it and he's like, what is Aligarh do in depth and I was like they still lie or they lie they keep lying or whatever, and he's Like somebody did a ten page breakdown of how they solved it. was like I do think that's that's one of the person most excited about this movie is them maybe doubling down on the detective aspect of Batman like the world's greatest doing A lot more of that. I'm sorry I just. I. Just did confirm he is Ed. Wood. National. He is but yeah, like in eighty nine. Keaton is always one step behind frankly that's like a romantic. Like that it's a love story. It's not a detective film at all and I like the detective stuff in the Dark Knight trilogy as well. But even the latter film I feel like it kind of loses that too. So yeah. I I like the idea of like cat-and-mouse chase being the thing and I think Sherlock Holmes level intellect chasing a criminal it's just as smart as he is. Hang. On a bat in a bad mood. Now over the last several several nights just rewatch Dark Knight which I've seen a hundred times but it just compelling how the Mr such a good mystery also in web woven in that movie which I was thinking of I forget the cop but. Already watched it lets you but just forgot her name. But she's the corrupt cop who's taking money to pay for her mother's care and the first time I saw that movie. You know you don't really. I. Think you don't think much of her until later you re you realize that she was corrupt and she's very much a piece of this puzzle. I think that's a Ramirez Ramirez yet or Ramirez. Yeah. I think that there is going to be a just a great mystery. That's the thing I think I liked the most about the trailer was maybe the aesthetic. They've got between the cinematography production design like it looks like they're kind of aping a little bit of that joker seventies super grimy super grainy look but that's super appealing to me. It almost looks like a David fincher film if he made a movie back in the seventies or something like that but I think it's pretty awesome. I'm joking but I do think it was actually a pretty brave choice to show Robert Pattinson without his cowl wearing the eyeliner. I was like that's known knowns dared to do that to this poll. Yeah but they have to try to move him away from vampire boy which obviously he's been doing for a really long time. Good actor Greensboro films. He's been in at this point like ton of cool stuff but it's still the public still sees him as vampire boy. So having that shot was very interesting choice. I thought it spoke to just sort of how he's unhinged character and they they dance around that especially in a Batman returns when he takes his mask off and he goes from having the raccoon is and he's he's super clean. That was distracting as a kid because it it's a hard cut to his is without the makeup on under the masking and it's like so noticeable. And I thought it was like well, doesn't it say more about a character of a guy who's willing to put? Makeup on every night can wear masks looks more intimidating. And we're definitely getting A. Batman who still a little bit in the infancy of being. Batman like it's not maybe pure origin story but it's Your cave is not completely. You know checked out maybe he doesn't have all of his ear maybe maybe it hearkens back to the nolansville thumbs in that way hopefully. Just voice instead. Of. Just talking to him. So could be that'd be. Part of that, that kind of the bat cave isn't filled out. It's. It does have that kind of DIY punk kind of he's made. All of this stuff is cobbled together right ear and army boots just to kind of. Make do I think that's very cool box. He's not polished weapons expert you know. I think that's that's appealing to me. Also the the hopefully, we don't have to full origin that may be kinda like those recent spiderman movies they just assume that we know. Help Batman between Batman or cover it. Briefly I. Think it's his second year being Batman or Studier. It's they said. Okay. So I'm I'm assuming we probably won't get. That'd be great. Again. That'd be great now. I'm sure we. Dream or something. They did it in what Batman versus Superman or it's like we we know get. Everyone knows. Everybody yeah this the cost. Just Great Colin Farrell is Penguin Look too interesting. I Love Jeff being going. Conquer. Looks like a different human being and I know it's crazy to see eyes and that's about it. Yeah, it's it's. GonNa. Be An interesting. Rabbits. Cat, woman, it was actually I love at least. Villains in this which is. I think the they said it's based on were loosely based on the long. Halloween. which is when those Batman stories that has, which is also much every Batman Villain that great great story but it has like every villain that exists which is way too much under man. I haven't it's been so long since I read Halloween. But the only thing I always rivers, the calendar is the calendar man. Because as Hannibal Lector, he goes into Arkham to talk to the villain behind the screen, which is calendar me. well. Elise you mentioned he had some issues with the riddles I wanna hit that in a sec I quick word from our sponsor. This episode Film House is brought to you by. Max. Now all this. Has Probably got you in for some more. Dark Knight. Abo Max has you covered Hbo Max offers a Huge Library that is big on quality content new shows like lovecraft country in films like an American pickle you can also check out a wide variety of movies and TV shows that you will absolutely love not personally I am a subscriber and each Max's by far my favorite streaming. App I actually searched. The Term Batman just before filming this segment and found over two dozen quality shows in films that I could easily recommend. 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We don't ruin the second one analyzed. I'LL BUZZ One often scratch my head. What once was read is black instead. But You WanNa, take it on I can't match, but I don't know didn't match. Correct correct is match. All right. The next riddle the eight of US go forth, not back to protect our king from a foes attack us. Ding. Ding. In both said of the chessboard on the pawns. All right. Your next one we're five little items of an everyday sort. You'll find us all in a tennis court. You're out of time. The answer was fouls. Valid in an item. Anyway if you haven't caught on yet all the riddles from Batman forever. I just say as. The Internet is because they all think that Colin Farrell is the penguin looks like Richard Kind. And so does. Richard kind plan and I'm kind of. With that, I would love to Richard kind joker. England. Pardon me I said Hi Checker Penguin Penguin The Richard Joker might even more addressing. I think at least can be Batman. At least. Totally. Sure. I. I don't know couldn't get the vowels one. the the greatest detective in the World Bruce Wayne figured it out and within three seconds. Most most of the rails. Almost puns that. Possibly top Jim Carey is the ridler. Is it possible now? I pulled US fantastic and I have I the first time that I saw Jim Carey's were low I was so terrified I locked myself in a bathroom in cried and my I was always being babysat and they didn't know where he was. So I was just crying in a ball through. And forever after that I, don't watch any movie with Jim Carrey in it because it was so afraid of him, I would have been. Six maybe. So. bruins me on Jim Carey folklife like any religious better than Jim Carrey further I don't WanNa talk about the. On something here. Really got me. But I also just keep finding it so funny that like. Colin Farrell is so attractive. You such a good looking man and just make him like genuinely just just completely changes face I feel like it's probably genuine usually distracting that he's so good looking and it's certainly not the first time that walked his appearance. But I wonder if if my brain is even going to register that it's the same personal, how unique the performance is going to be it's it's a it's an exciting. It'll be distracting trying to find Colin Farrell on the face like she'll be staring at his face onscreen trying trying the sees me with a pretty. I've looked at him. Trying to find any semblance of him in it I I can't. I do kind of the great actor. So yeah, you're right a lot Lotta. Maybe it does it takes away from distracting beautiful bushy eyebrows he has is Josh. Beautiful stubble. Even, intrude detective when he was a massive like. I do I hope you know we're talking about there being a lot of villains hopefully maybe the penguin is is in the background a little bit more as a setup for being the England in the Batman to. or or whatever instead of having to have way too much action in climactic fights in a single film, it's it's cattleman. Is the one that always consents me the most because I feel like penguin can easily be like the Mafia Tien who does sit in the background I feel like task for all the gangsters or whatever Batmans beating up show yeah. He's he's he doesn't necessarily to be front and center as cavalry is always a spotlight. That's someone. Who generally is played at a very specific way to very attention grabbing character, and that's the one that I'm like always like how how is cattleman gonNA walk in this particularly because sometimes like they used to briefly, they also will use cat women I. Guess as a romantic interest for Batman out in a another thing that I feel like might bloat certain films is adding in too much of a love story too much of a romance can. At getting too much provide. There's not going to be much of a love story I don't think. So either I don't think that's not reeves ammo and I think that this is this may be one of the only. Women in this film, it looks like from the cast that we've seen doesn't seem like there are many other women in this caste I don't think that they would relegate her to that. I also think that just looking at her, she looks like she's cat woman in the infancy of her career cat woman when we see her in the trailer unless unless there's like a costume revealed to be done and she's just got that like you know the coach with the little upturn. Little up turn on the corners and. Addressing in all black I love. Though. So I'm like me to go excited I was. So when that? was canceled. Love that show. tweet about that. Yeah. No Zoe Kravitz is awesome and I have no doubt that she can do this role really well, it's just a matter of the I. Think you're probably right that they want us romantically because that could fall apart. But. How are they going to too many villains for your first film Lot. The hope the hope is and we can talk about this in the next segment I have but Batman, the animated series that are really good job of reusing these characters and obviously not killing them off or getting rid of them as soon as you had him. So like at one point, the penguin was a club owner and he was obviously involved with organized crime, but he was more in the background and. Then cat one minute sort of this piece on the board that can be used by heroes or villains, or she has different motives I think if that's how they're thinking of how can we have these as long term characters these aren't just a single serving bits. How can we have like a all along play here? I think it could be really it could be well done if you have that many villains. Or Anti here shoved into one film so we'll see. Mich maybe maybe the ruler story is the story for the first one and the other characters are maybe more be characters set up for the longer haul of trilogy or something like that. something. Along depends on what their God. Will there be a surprise calendar man reveal that's at the very end. Yeah. Jim Gordon goes and the Weirdos are just coming out and he hands them a giant calendar with puppies on an. Views Coming if I remember correctly it's like Kalam and knows who? The killer is and I'm not telling you the inconvenience is like he's GonNa say. Isn't that? You know I don't remember it's been a long time but I think that I think he does I think that's why they go to him right is that. Oh because like all the killings or something we're done on holidays. Killings. The killings were on holidays. That's for sure. So good calendar man to put that together. One of the other small tidbits that I took from that that presentation with Matt Reeves where he was talking about Chinatown being a huge influence on this movie and I kind of saw that as a huge upside maybe of leaning into the war and like. The corruption of the police department in the government and just everybody is corrupt and. I think that ties in well with what we've seen of the rulers a bit in the movie I dunno, I think. Then also the fact that the guy loses spoilers for Chinatown being what could set up I. Think a really great trilogy is if Batman doesn't always win. If. He is able to grow from where he is from screwing up stuffed, being a really great superhero by the end of it down I think I think that's really really great promise in this trailer. Dark Knight version of Batman this. At the dark knight was the heat comparison than I think it's cool. This is Chinatown. I wonder wonder like if there is a beer, CASTA villains is Batman is it really like the Batman or is it more of the villains featuring Batman? True the constant problem. Were you Batman begins, which is very much Batman story, and then you did the Dark Knight, which is very much a Harvey Dent and joking story which I love I feel like depending on what you bring to Batman as a character like he can be very interesting. All you can be he link type a blank slate for everyone else. I feel like this is probably going to be be. Maybe. I'm definitely on bowed excited. It also less less is definitely more as well where you have a when you have a character like that man, maybe he's more interesting when you use him less because. So much of that character is mystique in mystery and need an alfred movie. That's I. watched that and I love you. They made that a TV show didn't they? Do you like the back story of Alfred when he was looking for diamond size of oranges or tangerines effect. Reappear. Your epochs subscription to watch it. S. That'll be a cw any minute now. Alfred? No no no. They came out. It was a show. What? that. comes. Either on crackle or epochs or Voodoo or one of those other things that. Talking about, but it actually came out. Called Pennyworth. Anywhere. What is it on? You guys need to look at billboards more often. Don't leave else. I look outside my window. What. It was on. So I was excited when this trailer came up but of course, there are people on twitter with let lot of hot takes about how Batmans like rich asshole just beating up or criminals and not giving them the justice they deserve. I. Don't know if anyone here agrees with any of that crap about Batman being a fascist or whatever. Maybe not the most fun conversation topic but that was like I. Just I thought I saw a lot of people enjoying this thing there had to be shitting on that parade talk about how Batman's a fascist or something like that. Haydn's anything. You. Want. I mean. People, arguing Batman is good like I feel like pot of the point like as a huge Batman fan is that generally he's like I guess maybe outside of the animated series where here he is pretty good He is supposed to be this unhinged crazy person with two personalities that he's fighting to manage. Yeah. Like I don't think he's supposed to be a good guy. So if you calling him a fascist Buick Shoul- like I'm not. I don't see him as being a superman. He's he is messed up. He's not a he's not necessarily a good dude I mean he's a vigilante. So no way has he been ordained or directed to do anything he does. That was actually. One of the really cool shots in that trailer I'm guessing was a pov shot of Batman entering that crime scene and all the cops looking at him like really Kinda warily disposable and like skeptical. I thought that was really intriguing. Just simple short low shot that says a lot. Yeah I was getting is that maybe it's not like dark knight where Batman has this strong relationship with Commissioner Gordon? Gore Gordon. Her. Crude. And maybe they are like they are at odds. School who's just bringing in the smartest guy you can find or something else sold the crown someone someone who can work outside the law I think it's also specifically the ridler directing his riddles at Batmans that manage the talk. At, it seems like that's going to be a plot about the Wayne's being. Potentially seems like what's happening which I guess is not that dissimilar to joke of funnily enough that's what I've made. The Chinatown connection there everyone's corrupt. So I just checked the penny what TV series it was on ethics which I've never even heard of. And the second season. was confirmed but filming stop because Kobe. So. There's only one season on epochs I was like this is the thing that just didn't even come out. Like a super spy or something. Like A. Was Allie SAS, or something like that. Say. Is supposed to be like all those stories that what's his face In Dark Knight about the Tangerines and you. Like. Builds up to a story about Tangerine. Signs slow motion to injuries volume valley where so so now now that we have talked about the all new Batman Bentham coming up I I do want to ask you guys now, who do you think is going to be the best Batman but before we get to that I acquired from our sponsor according to the Journal of sexual medicine by forty, almost forty percent of men struggle with erectile dysfunction. If you're in that category, there's help with hymns hymns connects you with a medical professional online to tell you if prescription treatment is right for you with him you can see a doctor from the comfort of your own home of traffic and the hassle of booking appointments by using him easy to use website and services for him to calm is about men's wellness if you're like me maybe just looking for. 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I was I was Gonna I broke all the Batmans up at least the most important ones in. Movement form not comics into three categories. I got dark animated and camp. So on the dark side we got. The Nolan films we've got the Burton Films Zach Snyder Film. And then on anime side we got. The. Bruce Timm Kim Conroy Batman. Peter, Weller? WHO's in the Dark Knight? Returns. Jason Mario has been doing all the new fifty two ones. I don't even know that it was an embrace. Bruce Greenwood did great. Voice and then on the camp side, we got the Joel Schumacher films and Adam West and I guess batons in falls on the dark side I assume. That's a really. We don't know yet. They could change it. You get a scanner door, kill bill and. They're just gonNA wrote a script. The whole movie wasn't it that guy from whose line? Is it? Anyway also an animated Batman Boys. Drew Carey. Show guy what was that Moffat guy or Ryan styles because they call it the other while choice Allen Rock. The other one. The other. Never. Drew Carey Dietrich. Oh. Wasn't he was the guy he was the guy on the drew Carey show not. Anyway I thought he was on that too. He may have been. One of the main. I and I would be remiss. Rei also forgot job from Roosevelt remember his name Miller also as. As they lego Batman I forget about that one that is. To camp, camp and animated. Yeah. Maybe a bit of both stuttle. Yeah. We're was that a good movie. I never actually saw the Batman movie. Yeah I enjoyed it was one of the best person that movie. Yeah. That's great. He's. A fun little ride but now that we have this all there. I actually without including. Robert Pattinson one because we have him saying two lines in this entire trailer and we don't really know I. Mean Obviously, you liked the hot new. Toy that's right there. So you immediately think of that but. Based on all of this, if you guys were to pick your favorite Batman who would it be? From each category. No Odd Ju just the one at of out of the ones I, have provided to you just the one for me is conroy. I'm just picking good one. What was that when prime? From what? The antivirus of the original animated series Bruce Timm. One Yeah. Am I honestly have to agree with that? That's the epitome of Batman was that that animated show I think the the know movies were great but I don't necessarily think Christian Bale did anything special as Batman in those movies he was just vehicle. for those really awesome Christopher Nolan films. So I think I'd I'd have to give it to the animated series Bruce Tim. Conway thing. The animated series is great I'm a big Sucker for dark knight returns for Old Batman. More. So the comic I guess the animation like I do love Woman Batman. I also really love just he's more of a supporting player but Batman Superman red son that might just be because I like Batman his little furry. Most But I also like I, really appreciate like I. Know It's an saying about how in the dark knight he is the conduit for telling that story. He's not really like the flashiest Batman but I do really like the dynamic that Christian Bale has in those movies especially when he gets into like. I'm the playboy Bruce Wayne and I'm showing up at a party with two supermodels on my arm and I'm putting on this facade, and then I'm really good Guy Batman that taps into these cell phones all across the city. But then at the end of the day programs at solution box can destroy it and I don't make about me I just say you type in your name and he's he very much embodies that kind of like silent honor that he's not trying to like shove down anyone's throat and I don't know I do like at the end of the day like Kinda like that. I think maybe of any mainline movie, it's bail for me. I agree with that too. I think come I, like what Keaton Bruce Wayne I think his like billionaire WHO's like we? It doesn't really know how to be a billionaire is interesting and I don't think that bail is like a terribly interesting Bruce Wayne. I'll maybe his Bruce Wayne doesn't really exist aside from like the one seen the models at the restaurant. But otherwise, yeah. Afflicted absolutely nothing for me like I feel like I didn't even really pay attention is like nothing at all Bail for shore I also like. Got A credit Christian Bale for how much he changed his body. Requires films like that stuff's crazy and so dedicated. So for the live action, it'd be bail Fisher I'm into it. There was a also I don't I don't think I don't think Batman begins gets enough. Yeah. Read it for really kicking off this modern era of Superhero movie taking that template where I think as a as a young fan I was always like, why don't they do the origin story they've never did, why aren't they doing this and? I go back and watch Batman begins and it's so good and it's kind of mind blowing that they'd never done a movie where he Batman doesn't become Batman for forty five minutes into that movie which is. Always, skipped the part where it becomes a Ninja. Right. That was just like he he goes away and he comes back that ass racial Latin yeah. The. Animated show years ago. That wasn't on your list called Batman, the brave and the bold which not that it's the greatest thing in the world. But I think had a really amazing fun tone like we're talking about this new the Batman that's east like super dark and super. Gritty in their serial killers and suicide bombers. But this was like a fun show for kids that Kinda jumped around the DC. Universe and had like a really fun aquaman take in like all the really weird crazy characters were able to be in it and it was fun and enjoyable and lighthearted for maybe more for kids. But it's something that I think is completely left out of all of this modern Batman is the fun that there is there. Yeah. I watched some of that because it felt like they were like we're trying to. Bring back our Batman animated series and like the Color Palette was really interesting to. Give almost like this popular palate but. I never never got into it. I do know that there was a character on their name funhouse up they. Did. A copyright. They never did a copyright on the name. Because we had a bunch of meetings with lawyers when we first started here and they were trying to copyright the name, but then in a weird. Turn of events. Warner kind of bought it. Maybe that's the reason why they bought. We got to the bottom of maybe this why before funhouse you couldn't get calendar men to. I will say I agree both with. Dan Alana that the animated I think Tim Conway just because he was that character for. It's been twenty years. You have so many different iterations in such great written episodes across. Multiple. Batmans shows video games, and Justice League shows. And they I think they though shows always got better and him playing that character perfectly I think is is sort of I will always see that as my like quintessential turn. There's something about that Bruce Timm aesthetic to the kind of like art deco but timeless like they're still Sifi elements in horror elements in modern things but it also seemed like it could have been in the fifties. That I think works really well to not Saddle Batman with modern technology that I think's really cool. Yeah. I highly recommend watching the Justice League unlimited episode epilogue. Which the head of Cadmus Waller basically does a a great explanation why the World Needs Batman and I thought that was like such a nice little cherry on top of that great show and. I highly recommend watching that one. If you WANNA get a get a good reason why that man is an awesome character huge. DC. That there are also many different nations about men like they just allow so much freedom with their licenses in a way that I really appreciate and the characters tells Batman the same thing. They completely change the origin stories of so many of those characters really let people get creative with the licenses in a way that a lot of. Properties is absolutely want. So there is so much Batman and Batman for everyone, and every Batman that we've had before is going to be different the loss in a way that I don't know I think is really cool some you could. You could imagine a massive corporation being way too over protective of the image of one of its major characters like maybe like Disney is for Mickey so that Mickey barely even lives anymore because they're so protective of him pressure especially when you get into a movie like Lego Batman characters so deprecating and silly and really undermines any of the the seriousness of greediness of Batman like He. He's just like the foil really and it's so fun. For being kid with parents time. Basis so good. So. If you get a chance, just look at the art for Paul. Pope's Batman Year one yet. Yeah. Just one of my favorite magazines. It's like a nightmare. It's but it's it's cool. I. Remember seeing that it's been like that. I can't believe they let them do that especially a great book. Variety all thank Batman figures that I have in this apartment like none of them look the same, even a little bit like Clemenza. All, over the place, it's it's so like the statue right here is from the Batman who loss it's like some Bedia Sam Shit it's just this creative with it such a cool character like. Vampire about man I have a Samurai. Batman. Technically to vampire. It's actually yeah. Just all over the place it's it's. So is the Batman who laughs a Batman Joker at the same time he's typically more the joker but yonker Saudi. Just real quick before leaving. This is not necessarily Batman related but DC related I read too good. I. Have a lot of time to read. Now's lonely funding I get to do with the baby. They're a to really great comics from DC recently one wonder woman dead. Earth which is kind of like a dark knight returns take for Wonder Woman. Kind of revisionist really gritty art. But. In the other one is it's really stupid at Superman's Pal Jimmy. Olsen but it was maybe the most fun I've had reading anything along time just Jimmy. Olsen running around having stupid adventures. And Superman is not allowed to save him this time for some reason but just a lot of fun kind of poking at the stupid -ness of comics while also enjoying them and living in them. So just too hot rex for anyone out there. That actually still reads comics net style. That's cool. Awesome. Well, thank you everyone for watching and listening. If you enjoy the show obviously telephone and everyone you you know and we'll see guys next time I get. I.

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Gavin is the Voice of Reason? - #600

"You're listening to rooster. Teeth podcast number six hundred. If you hear something, you'd like to see from this episode. Visit I dot Richardson. DOT, com. At Our TV is sponsored by Xpress sweeping protector online privacy today at Express VPN dot com slash rt TV. Haber, when welcome to the podcast I'm Gus I'm Gavin. I'm Blaine isn't going to be next and I'm. Barbara. Starr. Show, you're being taken over by TRIPODS. Yeah I have a lot of equipment set up in my office, working on some projects with rooster teeth, so excuse the mess, but it's easier for me to do. The pockets like this than take everything down out of the shot and of backup. When I need to film, so this is me in the jungle of tripods. that. You're making projects with rooster teeth, not someone else. Not Born I promise. I had a I had a bunch of stuff. You can't tell what this was. All filled with equipment but I moved out of the way. You look a little bit more pressed against the wall you look. In a little bit closer. Ever. It's it's still the same wall. I promise you I guarantee. I didn't the camera though the podcast over here last time. Yeah, I'm clean around with a with a a new camera here we've some. We had to film something the other day. Netease this piece of shit camera for it. And if you are filming a movie on this cameras longer than eight minutes, it overheats and shutdown. Cool, so let's just. I ever exact same camera that you and I was using it for the same purpose and I didn't have that issue, so. There might be some process running on your computer with the camera at the same time that you might have to check out because. I didn't have that problem. I have the same camera. The only problem that I encountered is now whatever I plug in my cable. The resume using my old Webcam broke h. e. my cable because as I was setting it up. my camera fell over which then hit a power cable that was holding up another light, which made that tripod full over which made another tripod that was holding up my curtains, and it was just like it was like fucking Rube Goldberg of destruction. To take. Out. Sony Alpha Sixty one hundred by the way. So any usually really good. because. It's a murless one. So, everything on the inside really compact, so I think that what's probably happening is. Even though I'm running off of plugged into the wall. It's probably the batteries, probably heating up and probably causing too much heat, but I cannot run the camera without a battery, so I need to get a dummy battery like literally. If you haven't plugged into a sea power, and there's no battery in it, it will not turn on so I need to get a dummy battery to try to reduce the heat and I'm sure it will probably work fine after that, but it's. A dummy battery I'm maybe like a battery with a wire that comes out that you'd plug in. It's like tricks. The cameras thinking is battery, but it's AC power Raja. Now start generating more he is doing. Are Calling dumb. But but I think the picture looks much better, so you can see how ugly I am in higher definition. Really always wanted the dream. The dreams alive and only took six hundred podcasts. Congratulations, everyone we made it. Is Extend Your? Feel. Like a super appropriate time to be throwing a big celebration, so we'll have a low key six hundred we'll. We'll catch you the seven hundred. Sixty six and blind said I, have so. Many plans got to talk afterwards because I have so many plans. May maybe. We've already done. Seven hundred maybe recorded it years ago just like we did with three fifty. We did it after we did it around podcast seven. Dude if you guys recorded podcast, seven hundred like. Years ago, that would be. Just. Icing on the cake, my God that would be such an interesting they know. Watch you remember when we did that before I know! I remembered he did that. For what was it three fifty I, think, but we did it like two years or something. Yeah, but I think it was like at that point I don't think to too much had changed obviously like big life events like I think Michael got married in that time I. Don't know if they had iris in between that time, but. There's a couple things that had changed, but not like. From back then and to seven hundred, whatever is going to be the state of the world by then who knows? What. What is what is what is one hundred we? Can you ask a smartphone that? I'm we'll see what is under. ME Like. Four weeks. It'd be a month shy of two years in it. How does that? Make seven hundred, twenty, twenty two. For Weeks Dr here. Yeah 'cause fifty two weeks in a year. I did something. SMART. But I. Just had is like this. In my head for a second I was like what is he on about? Checks out. Here. It's interesting to to have that turned around a new guy. Normally, it's the other way around. You say something we're like. What's he talking? Oh okay all right. Canada. The Voice of reason on this podcast and I think a lot of that. We should on him for. The other day I realized that I removed. One of my clock's recently I was just on the floor while I was moving some stuff around. And I think what does the cats had stood on it like sat on the hands so now. Back up every time, the minute hand passes the hour. Hand it like catches on it for a bit stuck and pins off, and it causes the time to be wrong by a different amount everything. For Twenty twenty. That's the perfect clock. I'm just GONNA leave it that way. I feel like that's something. Someone would have invented called the chaos clock where. The time is variable and is off by a little bit like you don't know exactly how normal people will set the clock like five minutes fast so they. They don't show up later. Whatever take this one you don't know you have to show up based on the time on the clock. It might be one minute fast. It might be ten minutes fast. Is it messing up so much that it's always head like it keeps getting more and more ahead of time. Slows down every time. Slows down every time. The minute hand passes the our hand. which is like an hour, you? Get free, it doesn't like spring forward. Yeah, I thought for some reason when he said that it would spring forward a little too fast. It just gets cool up a little bit, and then Just Ping free, and then it's behind more. Jeep is a fucking fossil, and it doesn't have a clock built it, so I bought a small digital clock, and then hung it off a thing that's on my roof and the battery comes loose sometimes because it, it rattles lot my jeep, so it is just completely inaccurate, but I haven't taken it down yet, but like it's like according to like. It's like you know nine am right now or something. It's so frustrating but I. Yeah. OATMEAL I am longer threes. Yeah. I walked to AAA to get lunch because I am just completely out probably after this many of the grocery store, let's stay of places like Japan ladies days they crowded with people wearing no mosques, or is it a is fun. 'cause I walked in, and they have these little signs posted everywhere. This is temporarily closed in terms of like the eating space but I walked in. There was like eight Dudes, no-one wearing masks just like hanging out eating. Not Minding, their distance came in with acid of. One guy like came to refill his drink, and I like stepped out of his way. You know just. Keep space, and then he just like very intentionally. It felt like I walked right by me. Come on, man like. kind of addicting, totally addicting. But it Trivia. Every day for lunch since we've been in quarantine, I've made an eating a sandwich. That's how. fucking bait for the last three months without really living on the edge there man. To go go interact with anyone I. don't want to like you said we have an encounter at each layer at restaurants with I make an I. Don't want to think about like I. Don't want to spend any time worrying about Oh. What am I gonNA? Make what am I. GonNa do how long's IT GONNA. Take like no, it's just easy. I will just make an eat the same sandwich for lunch every day and I've been beaten that put hung. We've been doing this March twenty four hours. I think our last day in the office so portrait. Yes. What's in it? Mark Dogs Barking, hold on, got it. We gotta get like after you listed off. We gotta get graphic for gusts as quarantine sandwich. There has to have step by step all the ingredients you need, and we need people to make the sandwich and eat it and judge gus on whether or not, he has good taste or not. Limited somewhat because I can't just go get any deli meat I want. A vegan sandwich, so it's. It's a plant based Turkey non dairy, Cheddar slice or Thuban Derek jeter slices some shredded lettuce and Vegan Bacon on and Vegan Mail on sour dough, bread. So sour dough bread, good call. From from easy tiger? Oh, okay, play. Kevin Spacey Tiger. We sell the bread at some grocery stores around so I don't go to easy to. Go to the grocery store pickup. The Easy Tiger breadwinner I'm there. Yeah, if you look at Heb's like stickers, they have like a little tiger logo. And I was like what is that and it was like made by easy tiger, so let's tiger at a local place right? It's just Austin. Place your NAS in I. Don't know I. Guess they sell like a lot of German food? As well like A. Lot of Schnitzel and whatnot. Quantum. We can't hear it for what it's. Also I think we have to point out the fact that you had an adorable little kitten crawling all over you, Gavin. Yeah. He was on my lap and. Chat demanded more curiouser. Now? He's running because of. Stopped him. I didn't actually punch him by the way. Read it the two party. I wish we just had a camera just Benjamin. He walks in his sleep a lot. So that's why I always have to. Shake him sometimes, he doesn't in the middle of the night. Sometimes little night, give. Wake him up. Because if I call him, say his name. He keeps sleeping and so I'll I'll share a little bit, but sometimes in the middle of the night out of nowhere it will be dead silent, and he'll just start howling like this. In his sleep like this really mournful long Ladd, Howell like I don't know where it's like. I wonder what's he dreaming about? What's going on that? He does that, and he'll wake himself up and look around. It could like that was you was just doing that? I would pay her much more to watch pet dreams than my own dreams. Yeah, you know it. Reminds me of? My of one time when I took a flight with you. And you're across the aisle for me. You're asleep and your snoring and one of your snores was so loud that it woke you up. Is that what you thought you might have sleep apnea. Probably new ad, I'd knew ahead it by then, but yeah. I think dogs. No that they're sleeping or do things that they're still so dumb that they think that like I was just in the park just a second ago like? Doing one of these. The dog knows like mad if I, if I fall asleep on his couch, sometimes, I end up with the PUCK. Nightmares Lot I was GONNA. Ask you guys. Do you ever like whenever I wake up? Dutch from a nightmare I'm always very soothing about it like a pet him 'cause. I don't WanNa like jolting awake. I'll just be like it's okay your dream. It's okay it's okay. So you do you like Benjamin All's well. Do you like comfort them back? Like stop it I'm trying to now. I'm getting on now. Of course of course I'll just start putting them. I don't want to like scare them out of it a great part, probably the best way to put it. The only one out of this whole group. That doesn't have a pet of any sort. Everyone. Got Trevor it's true. I I do I. Don't know if now is the right time which I could be argued of now. Who is the best time since we're home all the time and it's like the perfect time to start. Carrying especially like for a puppy that needs a lot of attention and stuff like that not having to go to work or anywhere physically being around for arguably the best time, but it's also. There's so much going on, and things are already so stressful that I don't know if having a new pet is a great idea right now. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, but. We're. Never going to get a dog at some point? I can't put us. 'cause like the. Animal that I've seen you interact. The best with was rebel. The dog like the old chocolate Lab. And like I. Don't know I. Don't see Barbara and I say oh. She's a dog person. She's a cap or I honestly don't know what kind of pet would perfectly fit you. You know it definitely I. I'm not a cat person like I. It's not that I dislike cats I just I'm not I'm one of those people who's like uncomfortable around cats like the ones that cats always gravitate towards because like you don't relate well, maybe Katzav, uncomfortable around you, Barbara, maybe are. It's probably because I got clawed really bad by a cat when I was younger and I'm forever scarred not physically. But no I love dogs. We turn I kind of like the same type of dogs like kind of medium big, not not too big I don't know if like a lab or golden retriever would be are. They have a Lotta energy though you always got to walk and take them out. He wants to adopt just like a really old dog. That just wants to like lay around. Do you want a really old dog who smells bad sometimes occasionally box in his sleep. I'll absolutely take Benjamin Office. He's asleep again already there. Does, he get like poop stuck to his butt or anything. What is he? Or is it just smell stocks smell? Yummy, interpret talk about wanting to get a dog and we already have two names tipped out for dogs, and we're GONNA pick whichever name works for whatever dog we eventually adopt It all depends on the personality and stuff like that, and that could change, but weightless W and chat says get an owl, Bob. WHO said that. This w well, let's W. Back, Who? I'm I. got it now. Okay, okay. That took that to me while my favorite jokes that I heard recently is a. Guys someone in this room is possessed by an OWL. And then someone nebulae. Talk. A dogs I'm currently so like the biggest pain in the ass about living in apartment with the dogs after like constantly like walk him out of the unit downstairs and all this stuff so I'm trying to find. A House I'm looking for a house and is completely unrelated everything, but I did find this one and I was like Oh. This one looks nice news like decent price, and all this stuff and I'm slacking. Erica picture I was looking at pictures of the garage, and the garage looks like Shit, and then I like zoom in not spot because there was this weird thing in the corner on the garage like they'd taken off paneling. And underneath the paneling, they had put help like someone had written help. In the the the wall like inside the wall. Can. I'm looking at it now. It seems like there's all night long. It's called. Like it was like they had like wood, paneling or something, so they were like putting all glue, and then someone put in like a little bit of extra caulking glued to make it say help. Jan.. So. Searching for house hunting tips if anybody's got got them, you literal cries for help. He's huge pain in the ass, especially around here and finding that out especially now. I so I saw signs for houses that were having open houses. I can't imagine doing that right now like going. To buy a house and going to an open house for there's a bunch of other people. I've seen a lot of realtor. Sites offer like video tours now. Instead of in person but yeah I have seen because I love looking at real estate I. do it all the time. I get emails from Zillow and whatnot just to look for. I think you're the same way right you you. and I've seen that before then saying like having open houses Sunday it's like. What you? There's a pandemic still going. Clearly the people are still doing during the pandemic stuff of importance. Having, Mosey I wouldn't put high up on the list of stuff to be doing in a fantastic, and you can see a lot of base on online. This episode of the restrict podcast is brought to you by stamps dot com back in the day sending riders Blue Dvd's through the mail was a big job and one of the toughest part of making selling products. Online is to shipping. No one really has time to go to the post office. It's a real hassle, but worry stamps dot. COM is here to help with steps. Dot Com you can print. 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If it's the best or the worst. Compared to their first kid which? Wasn't born in a pandemic. would be the worst. Dramatically, but yeah, then I was like I mean. When do you get to spend so much time with the newborn? Busy when they have kids right, I guess from that active. It's nice to be home and have everyone home also to not be like missing out on stuff. But I think the process of having like you can't get family to visit. You can't get any external help from anybody. I have a friend. I might have talked about on podcast before a a friend of mine who just had twins? She's in the UK. And they have both have fulltime jobs, but they can't get anyone to come help. Obviously, they can't. I don't think her husband was even able to come with her to the hospital when she was having them like. There's a whole bunch of stuff that made it really difficult. but who knows if that? Like the pros outweigh the cons or vice versa. I just know what a nightmare like Chad and like my sister and brother-in-law are having with their kids and just. And both parents working. It just sounds like a lot, but there's no escape. It's constant. And the kids are getting fucking bored and frustrated I'm what I'm curious about is like what the lasting impact on those kids is. GonNa be in like the. Lack of socialization I think it's going to cause like strong family ties, but like I'm wondering if. You know something to be a little bit different when they get back into. One of my neighbors came by the other day. They have a relatively young kid he's A. He's a little toddler and I think they're like run there so far like totally exhausted everything to do. That I drove home. Parked, my car and like from a distance it came over there like. Carson Watch you plug your car. Accident was like okay sure. Plagued with a few times to show. You know from from a distance away. He was like totally enthralled by it I guess it was like something you hadn't done. I WanNa see that I wanNA see. Gusts interact the baby or a child I always still supposed to do explaining something to a five year old. Are we GONNA aren't we're going to? We're talking about that explaining the human centipede two. He's listening right now. I I i. completely forgot all. I'll get back to work on that. Thank you very much. I forgot about America's in here and watching the bug cast. Burke. Terrible. No, we're not. We're not doing that. We're not not at all. Way Way Way why. Because you picked you picked. You picked. You picked it. Was it was it was a practice in in theory? Not In reality it was a practice in theory, not in practice. It was going to say it was an exercise, but I picked the wrong. You picked of all the things that you chose to do. You chose the one that you that you could do i. don't understand you got you? Have you don't you're not going to do it? If I set it up to you it it's too. Nonconsensual is to psychologically scarring. Becca if it was okay if she knew if it's OK A. Human Centipede is. The sound board really specific today. Don't get months at this point killer from Scott. Who was? Shadow rogue. Steal your joke in chat. Apparently I'm the voice of the people now, so sorry guys for bringing it up. You're welcome. Maybe I duNNo. Probably. What's this dog? So Kelly and I went to the drive in movie theater this weekend because that's the best alternative to go into the movie theater. Because he can socially just since he can stay in your car and stuff like that, so we went to Blue Star light in Austin in their showing return the. And your birthday. Last year. Yeah, so like she has not seen. She hadn't watched star wars previous to dating her before US dating, so we've been watching them in chronological order. We just got the jet I. Unfortunately, they're showing it at the drive in. And it was, it was the fucking blast, and she'd never seen it before, and she has his cute dog Charlie in like years. Everyone's been saying. Oh my God Charlie looks like an e walk and Kelly's never really gotten the reference because she doesn't really know what you Oxnard Says No, it's Star Wars. So then as soon as he walks showed up on screen when they're on indoor. She's like Holy Shit that's Charlie and she just like. Every time you walk was on screen. She was fucking losing. Belly laughing, and then as soon as. Yeah and then is, it seems we got home. She dressed charlie up as a wicked. The the main you walk that Laya runs into and I. Put Pictures In our slack. That's. I'd. To Ute. Yeah. So what what does? She think of the Star Wars movies. It's crazy because like she's fucking. Digging it like you know. All admit that upset is like a little bit slower pace which she was like. Oh, I loved it. That was great when in pressuring marching brother. The ones around Disney plus she is in part strikes back like those fucking rather like I love that you know. Trash that might have been my favorite I think. She liked because you walk from the like. It was weird because she was like really emotional mannequin showed up, but like the. Of Dan like handkerchiefs and. The other was just on the back for the PREQUEL chillier fresh on her mind, so she's wow, it just like it's full circle like. The first time I've ever heard someone actually before. That bet changed the putting. Christians than into the movie. I like! This potentially not the worst decision. But. Do you still like the other guy? I mean I prefer the other guy just because like if you think about in the context of the scene Luke doesn't know who the fuck in Christianson is, free guys breaking up. Now is called. I would say was genuinely magical like I've seen that movie a billion times, but seeing somebody that's never seen it in who is like really enjoying? It was like it was a fucking blast. Underrated human experiences is sharing something that you love or that so close to your heart in somewhere. That means a lot to you with someone you love who's never experienced or seen that before. Yeah, I love that like sharing movies or TV shows or books with people who've never experienced before, and like watching them react and take it all in A. Love that yeah, yeah, it's it's. It's great. It's it's my favorite thing about living with someone so you can pretty much do that any point. I know. The amount of time I've had to be like Trevor Watch Disney movie that's from my childhood. have. I've seen these too and I'm like let's pretend you haven't. Gotten. I didn't realize it true that one of the changes to. Las. What's the? Six Stars Movie Return of the? Day like photoshop his eyebrows off. Day like yeah, I think they removed vader's eyebrow so that he didn't have. It looks like us more burned. Ingesting choice I I'd say that's probably one of the most. One of the changes I agree with. Subtle you just look shocked all the time. It's strange. It's weird. Have you seen a berry or that? Yeah there's a guy in that showed. That doesn't have it have. Your Yeah Yeah. Is that like. Jerry, or is that like a carrot to look? I think it's as I think it's. Thing like he just shaves stealing I. Don't know if it's like. I could be wrong I. Don't know if it's something that he was bored with or something. He does intentionally but. I think it's just like. How he was born. Now, maybe I'm wrong. Bleed. I. What Oh wow, we're coaster buddies. With. For Coaster Buds. GAFFER's your coaster. SMART. Like Costa. You're ready for more than this is just like. From. Those I i. don't like those ones I think Chevy's to have those two and they just small enough. Where if you have a glass at certain size that will get stuck to it. Up a little bit. Instead of just like something fought. Both Mason Jar, but I like this one because it absorbs condensation from glass like I hate glass. Ones are slick ones that aren't permeable, because then the conversation just builds up on. It spills everywhere. Marble. It's worked out pretty well. It does absorb could get cold like the whole thing gets cold when you have a cold glass on it, which is interesting. Costa was the what's in your house item for trump last week. Or the week before. Is that a new? Thing where you basically have to lie about. Yes, instead of what's in the box. My House that's pretty is free smart shift. That's a fun game. That's a fun game show. Yeah. I like being on trump. The deceiver role, but I have been a contestant. I did a contestant episode like a couple of weeks ago in the test episodes as well but. I feel like the lying would be so stressful. Gigabit like acting. You're playing a part. I? Don't think he's unhappy on again. Because I run, I was like the one that had to find a liar. I liked fucked up royally. Time I was going against Gavin, who was I was trying to deceive Gavin, Gavin Lake call everything. Soon. To be fed. None of you allies with bad. You would just to get Chris and it's possible like. Every story he has. Just sounds so unbelievable that you know it's the truth. You're in like a slack her. Was it a google hangout or something with Chris? Today and he just talking like a fucking robot like everything about connection was ruined and he was just like. You reconnected and when he reconnected, he was laying back in bed like this. Like. was on a facetime call with his girlfriend something bad. Company. Breaking left so bad, so then I started doing this. Do you ever talk about the time in the meeting. Gus, where everyone started putting brick wall backgrounds to match you. About that. I don't think so. So guests, obviously sitting in front of a brick wall and we have a you know a lot of video meetings that we do as a team. And this was one of our scrums when week where someone else put up a brick back background. I think it was a zoom calls. It could do those like virtual backgrounds. And then people started taking screen shots, and making that their background, so just escalated to being like Merrill with a brick background, and now it's like a screen shot of gusts on his background as the background, and then a screen that person and gus with the background just kept stacking it was. gave me a tickle. I took that background and I made it. My background I just left. The call just walked away. took me a while to figure it out. Yeah. But. Did you see that parasite released five different high-resolution images. You can use as for videoconferencing backgrounds. I think I saw that because either you favored it or re tweeted it or something like that favorite it. Yeah! I think it showed up in my time line because of that, but yes I did see that. That really the movie parasite. Crenshaw. Remain I've only been talking about. Her seventy four times. Have I. Think since we talked about it I. Probably Watch it three more times. Sexual down I guess. That's earnestly. More Times voiced any movie. Screen. That's not a lot. I don't think I've watched any movie forty times. I've been trying to watch more like Korean films. Because that one oh fuck out ruled. I've got tons of recommendations for you if You're about here recently, there's been a couple of really good ones. There was one that came out in. I think twenty eighteen called burning, which has Steven Yeun from the walking dead. On netflix's. You can actually watch that right now. Another one called the handmaiden which is on Amazon prime. You can watch streaming movies excellent, but that movie is Super Sexual. Watch it you're. Watching with your mom do not watch it with A. More than that Train to Basan or pouvons really good. It was like a really good Zombie take also had this dude. He's like the most jacked like his arms were fucking massive. and. He's Eric Character. Isn't that where they go? In Black Puff? POUSSIN DADDY DO I'll. There I sent I was talking about Parasite Gavin the other day, and I sent him the IMDB link of the the crazy guy who lives in the basement and I sent him that link just because it's like they did such a good job making him look unhinged because I sent sent Gavin his regular like headshot that he uses. Like a good looking normal dude. Lionel fucked in the movie like do they share adder how they did that, but you look at his head is like Oh. That's like. A handsome guy would not think that that's the guy living in the basement that other movie. Right? Seven months seven months old. I noticed on on Hbo Max Available. Now. They have basically all of the studio Ghibli or Ghibli. Movies. Okay I've heard both ways, but I've never seen a single one so. I Princess Wanted, okay second? Let's start with. Has Castles a Prideaux? They have. On the at they have all the Ghibli movies and like the first row. I think it's five movies, and all of those I recognize the name seven the rest I've never heard of before, but yet spirited away princess, modern, okay, and a couple of the other ones. You guys mentioned. Brigade. I when I saw. Felt was on drugs this. PODCAST is brought to you by Bespoke Post. If your mailboxes anything like mine ninety percent of the time, there's a fairly depressing place. A political flyers utility bills unholy amount of coupons, but once a month I. do have reason to be stoked, and it's because of my box of awesome from bespoke post bespoke post since guys only the best stuff every month, and no matter what you're into awesome. Has You covered from style and grooming goods to bar, wear, cooking tools and outdoor gear box? Awesome has carefully bill collections for every part of your life this month to have a distill box includes a homemade. 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I think they give priority to locals, but like we just went on their website, and we found out the exact time a month ahead or like whenever they released them, and in like it was like me miles, Alana and coal, and we all just started like immediately logging into buy tickets, and then when we had a confirmed one. Where like okay, we got it. We're good. it was he was talking great I. Don't have any pictures of the reason being is they? Don't allow you to take pictures inside. Which I think is a good reason. Because I completely what was going on in the museum the entire time? I wish more places would have that policy. I feel like you could take things a lot better that way. Yeah, giving you look at a photo. That they spend a lot of time presenting like they want you to see it a certain way. You want to preserve that that direction I find that a lot in that when I look back at my photos I, have tons of photos of like before an off to everything, but not as the actual thing I went to do like we went to meow wolf to make a weird place so much stuff around it I. I don't have any photos inside. I might have one now. Looking back I'm like damn. It I wanted like look at that thing again but I've just rely on my memory. I was like just watch the replay. Ended in a lot of pictures I was GONNA say that I have been some studies shown to on to play devil's advocate in what I just said before, but that having photos of things taking photos in certain moments. Even if you don't end up, looking at those photos afterwards still creates something in your memory. You remember that moment more vividly. Even, just taking the photo it never looking at it again and I. Don't really know how that works. I wouldn't know what it must feel like because I feel like we must have experienced this where you see something whether it be like your cat in an amazing position or like you see summing of a really nice sunset. Immediately my head I'm like I have to take a picture of this. But what was that feeling like before people could take pictures. Would do people just think? Wow, I, WANNA, remember this. Don't move for ten hours. I'M GONNA painted. A. Real good, just sitting there going. Like I can't imagine what that feeling attended to just not exist maybe. It's because. I tried to do this thing. Where if I'm having I'm in a really cool moment in my mind I'll I'll I'll be like I. Need to take a mental snapshot of this. I need to remember this moment. How I was feeling what I was doing where I was what I was wearing all those things and it was like I can I can really appreciate this moment, and I shit you. Not I've done that like twenty times. My life and I can't remember a single one of only when I take a picture. Do I remember that Shit. That's funny. Well, maybe you what you're talking about there? Maybe that's like the inspiration for some painting. Like some you know I can think of some paintings that almost seem like a moment in time or a moment in life tries to remember something as best they can, and then paint later. Oh Barbara people giving recommendations for Gilly movies like talking Denver subs like. The Guy, who does? GIBLETS main dude. Milwaukee Milwaukee A. Ms Ocoee spoken about how he wants. His films viewed by American audiences with dubs because they like go out and intentionally like they got fucking like Christian Bale. Really Great Voice, acting in those specific, specifically spirited away when they did the translation for the DUB, they tried to have the script matchup with the animated mouth movements to not make it so distracting, which seems like a fucking nightmare for it's like you're translating, and you have to try to match existing mouth movements with your translation. INTO LOVE TV as well I know they do that with Pokemon so the translations of that the flaps are pretty much nailed as someone who has. Dubbed over anime and trying to match the mouth flaps. It is very challenging, so I'm sure the voice actors are very grateful for making that just a little easier now, but like I've been. I'M NOT GONNA say subs versus dirt is better than dubs or vice versa, but he's come out settling. I want you guys enjoyed the animation so much? That's why we got actors. Yeah! I talked about that years ago when I first saw your name, which still in my opinion is one of the greatest films of all time. Fantastic, but the first time I saw it I saw dubbed, and I was really appreciate that I did because it made me take in the story, and all we in the beautiful animation much more because I was able to look at everything instead of like. Watching and reading at the same time, which again like I think that takes practice when you're watching anime in in terms of like being able to read and watch at the same time. Even if you read quickly, you're still moving your eyes away from the frame for a little bit, you know yeah, but then I later went back and watched it subbed, and it was just as fantastic, but I am happy. The first time I experienced it. It was dubbed. I remember watching. I think it was police story. The Jackie Chan movie. In the DUB. Jackie Chan. I think he dubs himself or maybe I watched a bunch of those movies. There's one where he's. He's dubbing himself in English but I watched with the subtitles on at the same time, and every line was different, and it was very. It was very confusing to try and. Read the subs listen to Jackie Chan, saying different stuff like absolutely no way too much, though that movie fucking rules because I, think not only to Jackie. Directed Star in it stunt coordinated. He sang the theme song to it. Things smog bucking slaps. It's so cool like. Like I. Like Chinese. Like there's like a recruitment thing, and they use the theme song with Jackie's permission like it's such a good theme song. At the end he slides down the big like light thing, the exploding as he sliding down the big poll. That's play story, I think it might be. I can't remember the first or second one. I saw him as a double feature at the Alamo. Yeah I like those films because some stunts so impressive. They just show it like full-time Smith. Would you got it man? You got it on this. Show it off I. Think he burnt the Shit's avid hands, too, because it was like livewired a electric wire paralyze lights, the fucking best thing that they do in my opinion is lake the credits they just show what is essentially a blooper reel, but it's all of the stunts gone wrong, and I think Jackie did that like in most of his American films as well, but like you just watch these guys, just Fox up I mean just like irreparable damage to their bodies in. It's like this is crazy and it's to fucking police star theme song. Wanting touchy. I think there was something in in one of the James. Bond Films Tomorrow never dies. I think the had Michelle Yeoh in it and she. Was So used to that style of fighting. Style of screen fighting to the point where the English stunt people will like we can't. We don't know how to work with. They had to get in. Chinese people because all of the hits are like real, it's like. You just get kicked in the face and the only thing. Being stunt people like we do like non-contact like screen stunts and. Didn't match all. Just a rude awakening for you. She kicked ass them. There's been a couple move older movies. I guess where it's funny to see how things changed obviously like now. I think there's a lot more women in the. Stunt. What's The Sun Person I guess would be what is called person but there's some old movies where you could see like. There's an action sequence with a woman. And then, at one point you see her running, or or doing some type of flip getting hit whatever you could clearly tell that it's just a dude with a wig on. It's crazy to see how that's changed now and there's so many bad ass. Women stunt person. been doing that for for quite a while I mean. I think that's why turned to death proof right just to try to highlight her her stunt nobility. Yeah Dude I have such a huge crush on Gina Khurana I was watching the mandatory like special features stuff. She still good in that she's like her acting like a little hit or miss because I can tell that she wasn't like. That matter her fight choreography fucking rules, and there's scene where like fully armored Mandal Laurean like laying on the ground and she goes in. Just like just picks them up like he's like a piece of paper. It is just so bad ass like she's so fucking strong. She's hot. And so. Movies, I'm GonNa talk about one that I didn't like. This past weekend. I'm super desperate to watch anything so like I saw on Netflix. You Happy Madison Movie, so I watched it. and. It's just like. What you expect if you go in expecting that kind of movie, it's exactly what you think is going to be. Put the whole time. Like man I wonder how much they paid for this movie or wonder what you was was just like we want to. We want to go to Hawaii to film a movie Called the Missy, it was like the new David Spade movie. Was It on Netflix. It's one of the. Movies. It was filmed in Hawaii. which only supports theory that they just make these to have a paid for vacation. It's always. Investigation spot and I looked it up like the hotel. They film was the four seasons on Oahu so it's like of course of ALGA. I wanted to get y'all's opinion on this. Guy Seen Space Force on the first episode. I might five or sixty. I think I think we're five. Yes, five or sixty. I. It's just not doing it for me. I don't know what it is. Trevor seems to enjoy it. there moments. Obviously, that are pretty great, but overall. It's just like. I'm trying to be into it. It's just not hidden for me. Excellently currently watched one I watched. It's why I. Would I would rather be playing. Factoria played by Tori. It's like it's pretty funny and like I think they have like a really good cast. The only thing that bothers me about it is like it's such a high concept show like they're trying to do. What is essentially a sci fi like with like a netflix series budget like I mean I'm sure it's a huge budget, but like there's only so much you can do, and there's episode where they have to play like paintball or something and it is. Just low-budget Shit I mean it's just. It's like you could tell that they were really hurting in it. Just like this is, this is really bad. It has its moment like bland. If you remember the chimp seen shows. That was pretty entertaining, but yeah. I think I've heard that. Critique from a lot of people of it's like a very high budget concept, but not a lot of budget to actually work with so kinda comes across like. Kind of not great. I I read that there may be a trademark dispute between Netflix Hud and the US government over the term space force. Like the US government might be able to use space for us now right because Netflix's trademark and I guess. Trademark Law works. It's not who trademarks I it's who uses it first and. The series is out and there's they're applying for trademarks for it as rich. Does that mean that. There's been no. Progress towards a space force in the US government atoll. Did something, didn't they? Thought they? They have a satellite dish at. I think they have a satellite dish and a flag? US. You'd like my really loud people. My favorite tweet bind relationship. All that stuff was that. Netflix. pitched green lit scripted. Shot. And edited an entire series season of television show in released it. And in that same amount of time like space force. I'm sure there's a bunch of behind the scenes stuff, but like they got a flag and I think that was like the biggest progress had made. In the first episode of the show they have like a secret base and stuff that they're doing a launch from, so you really don't know I'm publicly. That's all we know about it. I will give them the benefit of the doubt. It is difficult to base. It is also the federal government which moves slow. It is also the military which is secretive. Who knows what the hell they're doing sure. I saved from a PR's perspective like. Oh. Yeah but it was speaking of space stuff. It was interesting because it last week or the week before to watch that. Space Launch and see the crew dragon capsule. Leave the Earth Limassol behind. Going going into outer space, but it's wild to me that you can watch a live stream from people who are leaving the earth going into space. Like! I had it on Youtube and I was watching people in a ship as it was taking off from the ground. Leaving, the leaving the Earth to go in outer space like it really felt like living in the future I mean. Do you think the same will happen? For? Think will be live watching. People and Moss like what's the light speed? Time difference from Moss is like an eight minute delay. Minutes The sun must be re minutes maybe. Minutes to. Figure that out by the time people are talking about Obama's. Three minutes three three minute delay. That's you. You wouldn't playing video game over that kind of lag, but you can watch. You can watch the stream. Speaking of which I read, someone there was a like an email I, five or something about. How Voyager communicates the Satellite Centre leaving the solar system. How they communicate with our of so far away. you know they have all technology in them and you know they took. Some people way smarter than me went through this long process of talking about how they acquire the signal, but the part that got me was that I to say that they're able to transfer a hundred and sixty bytes praise. Accident was a bit one hundred sixty bits per second. Such low bandwidth that's so it takes forever to get any bit of information. They were comparing it to like the the Reddit logo because I read this, read it, and there were saying like the Reddit logo in its current size on your browser was like you know. A thousand or something bits like he was like a lot more than what they're able to actually transfer over. So and I wonder how many bits it was to. Turn it around to take that picture of? All right but I probably had. It may have had a faster connection at that time since it was closer. Foster connection maybe but not like fostered well. It just lay at trion Internet cable. Now heavy that thing would have to be. Do? You think we're ever. GonNa add like. Have they ever looked into the science behind like skybridge that the proper term for it? By Bridge. Like space elevator that's. Like the fuck would it take to make something like that would even be realistic or feasible? People talk about that stuff all the time. We haven't made it so I. Guess No. Remember when gap wanted to Lasso the moon. That wasn't me. From a movie, but now you're talking about doing something to the moon are with the moon like if we got something like Long Avenue, I was talking about like the. Science and mathematical aspect of. Old movie quote but yeah. It'd be cheaper than. Launching to every time when you could climb. A LADDER! You're talking, yeah! You get. Anthony? Thick is the connection between. Voyager and the US. Encrypted? Can anyone. Get that's. A good question you need like you would need A. Talarico. You'd have a big a big. It would require much bigger than the satellite dish in your backyard to be able to listen to. Being a chat and they're catching up to the space elevator thing and now I'm wondering like have question for all you guys like. What is something that you didn't think was possible? Is So Seifi that you're amazed that it's actually self driving cars or like? The foldable led screens like I'm trying to think like. I would say everything that this frigging phone is capable of doing is if you told us to even like twelve year, old me and be like tag. I remember being really impressed by. Light field cameras. You take a picture and then change the focus off. I still don't know how that works. Wait wait. What Would some whirs it? Red Red Cameras. You can adjust like eyeso- in Arnot about exposure, but like things like that. In Post I mean that that's just like that's the functionality of just shooting roll like most formats you can. Adjust why balance ISO afterwards, but this was like you could actually change where the light converged in the picture. So, is it just how how does that happen from a Lens Perspective like you? Look also that may own light show nitro. That's what I had. It's a it's not here. It's in storage. have one of those, but you as a result of that, you need special software to be able to view the images, which is kind of a pain in the ass for sharing, so it's like. You would have to find the focus. You want the export that Jay pick to be able to share it because otherwise never software. There's no way for you to change the focus I can see that being in phone cameras eventually. They're just like slight adjustments. You already adjust do. You. Can you do that yet? With focus. Injury. But you can like. The poetry might has like an a fake aperture slide that mimics. Chest. Dislike all the studies that I never I never mess with. This My mind. Wifi. At when I was a kid using a laptop in. Not plugged in and typing on MSN I was like. How is happening right now? I think whenever we get that, but like wireless power, which I think is going to happen lightning. No. Like? That's going to happen though right I. Don't know if it's GonNa like give everybody cancer, but I feel like that's like that's. Everybody thinks that everything is cancer initially when it first comes out cell phones. Five genie baby spying on his. Aperture. there was a guy in the UK who just got sentenced to three years in prison because he burned down a cell phone tower because he was afraid of five G.. 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Can we just play the graphic one more time i. just wanted to spend more time. Should be. Lens flares. All the whole graphic was based off movie review Yelp in there. After the book it was stricken. I you know I guess. If we can, if we get to see one more time, Shane, if we can roll it back, have a look at the left side know. Out. US like it's verse. Movie reviews mean like Yelp as in like a restaurant review. We'll blame. Let me explain the game I have quotes that I've pulled from yelp. Reviews and movie reviews what I'm going to show you as an excerpt from those reviews. What you have to determine is that. Is it a movie? Review or a yelp review, so let's bring up the first quote to see what you guys think. I mean wow, the Ford Gt. Forty is such a cool car. I had so much trouble beating in Grand Juries motif is a kid. On classical Rome circuit the AI actually rigs it by having that car exceed entry qualifications for horsepower. So now you guys tell me. Is that a yelp review? 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Would you say it again shaken? I hate presenter Eric. Because now I'll leave. You and Gus can read all of the lower. We've created. That other one I haven't seen any of these any of these that were. Okay? You're not cheating anymore. Let's roll that beautiful bean footage. AB that graphic. Here's happened to my Buddy Eric. It Yet I'm GonNa Guess Movie Review. Movie Review the referring to a scene that happened to their Buddy Eric. I'm GONNA Guess Yelp. Go YELP. After is. This effort. My Buddy Aaron context. What happens to the buddy? Eric was new Eric? Joke joke joke happened. To you. Are you the buddy now it's not to me, but but it happened to his buddy Eric for stars. Eric Joker D-. All No. All right. Let's Let's see the next on. The Guy. Currently living with is twenty with a sixteen year old girlfriend I've been conflicted about turning him into the for months. Even though he's assured me, it's legal Immortal con with those straight line. 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Trust, my gut and still go with yelp. YELP! Answer is in I think it say. Man! The Bar with a four star experience would have been five, but somebody got shot. Are Hookah Bar with alert case be. Yeah Yup. Raleigh started. You Got Mad that somebody I made somebody make these. You can't be mad at them. For occasional grammatical errors. There's A. Man there's a hookah bar. In Austin. We used to go to I wonder what that places dealing with during cove people literally sharing things that they put in their mouth hit. Whenever, we were going there. Thank yeah, I think you and I and a couple. Other friends have been there from time to time was back in the day. roussette residue was the list of benefit. It's hard to say. I haven't smoked hookah in many many years. A, lot more nicotine. More quickly. I think it's Ju-. Society. Social. Atmosphere, guests and stuff now like atmosphere, virgin drinks, but you're not getting drunk. Yeah I never done it I just didn't want to. 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My fajitas didn't even come out right and then I would vote as cool because you're writing a review on yelp about Chile's small hometown. The only yelp review I ever met was the Gold's gym in Tokyo Because it was really good. Wow Going out of your way to? Do a one off review. Probably the only one he did that year for five stars is nice, but when it's. Like two or three like why bother? The majority of people tend to leave reviews or comments. If something's either really good or really bad, there's right rarely. I signed up real account and I only have ever left one review. Because of business pissed me off so much. What enforced to review a place once for like a cheap rate or something? They wanted me to review them on. Google, though not. Not On yelp. A, positive one right right and I had to write it in front of them. Holly Watch where there's a whole animated adventure about it was a it was a storage place, which is a against that entire system. You're not supposed to do that. I think that's the only that might be the only video we ever disabled comments on. Because in the comments, people were trying to figure out which storage place it was in town and they were like. Yeah, so they were they never figured it out of course because I gave no discernible information about it, but it was just weird to see people try to run with it. There's there's no way to could've figured it out anyway, my. Japan yelled for. Mixed when? Are. We going to hear it. WWF undertaker nine thousand nine hundred hill in the cell fucked W and if you're not down with that, we got two words for you. I'm GonNa say that that was yelp and they were raiding a bar that a local wrestling thing went down. I'm going to say movie I'm going to say movie as well. I'll say, yelp. And the answer is A. one-star also. Because, that's, isn't that. The undertaker's like move Eric. Yeah, he does the tombstone file. But why would you give it one star? Two. Bucks with your rules does and so does the tombstone piledriver? Why is there a tombstone piledriver in tombstone? People in the world who give things one-star reviews that they really like thinking that like they're giving it a one, which means like number one out of five. For. A rating system that sounds. One has to think yeah. I, think that's why they always have that. Like side thing. It's like on a scale from one to ten one being dog shit in ten being the best like I think it's for those. Dumb dumbs. All right. Next one. Lady asked if we had a cigarette, and when we said no, she said okay, but as anybody you know, have a cigarette strangely ship that see the bats we did. They are everywhere. YELP! Now or is that a movie theater? Could have been someone reviewing movie, but just. Say Movie. Batman begins. Me Up. Yup Yup. The answer is. Okay, let's face. It makes five stars. It's a five star liquor store experience. Wow, I mean that that is. The bats sounds like a pretty good liquor store experience compared to. All right next one. If you dare to go watch out for Ramirez. Ramirez misspelt. Dare to go, Watch, out for Ramirez movie. Yell. Movie. You're talking about an actor. Yonker is. A. Driver's lights. Be Orange out for him. What do you think Rivera's? Did you dare to go? Which means places in the first place? Obviously. Failed A. Driving exam left a bad review so problem or they were in the car with so Ninja Ramirez. Who was a dog? Shit driver because you know how they had to like group into Your test drives. I, only did a one on one driving school. Kevin, I'm sorry so. Driver's ED teacher so. And olden days. I guess I don't know if they do this anymore. But like you would pile in with like three other students in your teacher and you guys were like basically hops switching in between who was driving a passenger. Seems really intimidating. Yeah, I don't hate that. Very fortunate to have a one on one situation after I did at after school with A. An instructor, but if I had to do that in front of my peers, I would hate that. In a group and I had to go I. Heated! It was awful, I. Dad taught me because he was next. Traverse teachers, so they got the home teaching course. I'm getting anxiety just thinking about that scenario. All, right next one. I. Hate Myself so much so much I don't respect myself. I resent all the faces of my life. I can't be trusted origins disreputable scum. `Wow, yelp. Review for. As the Bio. This is. This is yelp review for an applebees. Yeah, this is going to be. Just real comfort food place. It's review for a movie. Maybe I'll, say yelp. The answer is. Movie Review. reboot. One and a half. One and a half. Wonder where they would have ranked in some above strike back. We've got to find out what up to track this review down and see kate myself. Do. We have any more. How many how many? More I think is one more one more really getting mileage on that graphic last one. Play the graphic at the end again to. Revolting experience from beginning to end and pardon me, but I'm glad he's dead. Movie. I might. I wanted to yeah. I would hope as a movie, but when to say yelp. Barbara Juicy I said maybe. Answer is. Movie Review for. Terrible Act Star. My God, this is no unreturned revenue. Williams. Often. I thought they were talking about now. They've got to be talking about a character. They gotta be talking about talk about Hook. Even though he doesn't really you don't really see him die. Thinking I don't think hooked. She's Gone Eric. Bad Choice Bad. Graphics. On Mary. You picked it. Trapping the only way to feel better that we played the graphics, so. Awful be still have your goals gym review. I want to hear it. All right here we go. This was written. In rate rated useful. Not Cool. No not funny or cool. Twenty two thousand eighteen visited Tokyo and got a two week membership here during my stay very friendly staff and a pretty Nice Gym. That was rarely busy. They'll show you the rules when he signed up, but keep tattoos covered at all times and bring some workout shoes to change into unless you want to rent. They don't want you to wear your shoes in the locker fitness area. They were also one of the few places in Japan where I could find protein supplements, so that was nice overall I. Think my past cost around seven thousand yen, definitely worth it in my opinion. Jay Or rain fed play. Review Look at you. Only place. I was able to find protein shakes. Seventy dollars Roughly right for like two weeks, but like. fucking worth it. It was like a nice gym too so. Yeah, If you had to do. If our life I think there's a Black Mirror episode about this but if you had to review the people in your life like you would a restaurant movie. Would you want to read those reviews? To Them The reviews yourself. Oh? I feel like i. read them all the time already. Feel like. We've got. Instant feedback. Up here. Watch watching your views in real time here and then later I'll watch them. Time shifted. To true I like from your people you know in your real life verses like audience in community and stuff like that I. Mean we have like performance reviews within the company where you can you know our colleagues will write them. Does does get into real talk sometimes. They're difficult especially since a lot of close friends, and then it's like well now. I have to find something to criticize about your work. So this is gonNA. Be Very harsh by criticism is always blame needs to have more confidence in what he does like every year year to year. It's always like blame needs more confidence. So what you're telling us is that aren't growing professionally. Back. Because that's going to be my feedback now. Mixed this next cycle. Blaine refuses to learn constantly repeating the same mistakes. So! I had a question thought about the other day. Do. We have I'll save it for another. We don't. We don't have enough time because. I. I would like to bring up yet. So. I'll just kind of address it quickly because I was planning to write a post about it because I tend to be a little more ticket when I write and have time to think about my words, but. We always open today is upset. One forty is the season ten finale and at the start of that episode. There's an announcement about how after the season we're going on an indefinite hiatus and I'm sure a lot of people have questions you know. Obviously, we're very lucky to have a very strong community around that show and people who really love it. Even if people haven't been keeping up with it, but. When we're doing shows specifically like always open. That has a particular subject matter. There tends to be only so much. You could say about certain subjects especially when it's like dating and relationships and sex and stuff like that and we get a lot of similar questions in a lot of similar topics that come up. And both Maryland I felt like we had exhausted our opinions on certain subjects, and we felt we rehashing a lot of things that we would talk about and discuss on episode so rather than burn ourselves out by continuing to go. We felt like it was kind of time to. Say Goodbye her either indefinitely or temporarily WE'RE GONNA keep deciding that but. If people are wondering about that decision. I will write something up eventually, but it's not because we didn't love the show WanNa keep going. We just felt like we kind of did all we could do with it, and we're ready to move onto the next creative endeavor so hopefully that is understood That those decision became too, but I think part of the creative process is knowing when it's time to say goodbye to something. And like Oh things when. It's it's still going strong without letting it fizzle out. I. Want you to teach me how to do that, please. Your next thing and I feel like you can even bring it back for the one off specials autism. We're still be doing some stuff around always open. We're still doing The show called just the boys with just the box of issues questions. We'd still do those every Friday on Rt. TV free for everyone, so that still exist, but yeah, Gavin, as you were saying. I think Lake One offs or specials at live events like tax I. Think for sure will keep doing so it's not going away completely. I wanted to announce that good morning from hell is taking over the relationship podcast. Risk So. Clayton and crystal take care of you. All your relationship needs you. With Cleveland Chris. Relationship podcast claiming. That is above 'cause I always loved being on always opened. That's like when the funds productions be involved with but I. totally understand your your logic there in. You're going to continue to grow some excited for thanks man, I appreciate it. Yeah, I think. All of us as creators love working on new projects and I think that's one of the coolest things we get to do and. You know we're looking to keep going. Create something new create something new with new people new faces from time to time so. hopefully you'll see more of that down the line, but in a different way. Yeah! It's all. I appreciate everyone support I appreciate all you guys for your support of the show, and for being on it from time to time Gavin. I know is on our finale, which was really really fun. Will, call. Congressional seventy episodes. Thank you one forty. On it to be on the on the last one. I. Don't think you even knew. He told me right before we died. Should've brought something. Yeah. It's just it's. It's hard to like fully celebrate the end of something when we're in quarantine like this so hopefully, when if and when things are back in the office and we're able to have a proper sendoff for it. We could do something special, but yeah I have a question. Does that mean all the booze on the set is up for grabs. Still. Part of our. I mean what was it not for? That's true. Not that you can get to it now or anything. We could all use it right now probably. Oh, yeah, definitely! I just wanted to mention that I know not a lot of people necessarily watch always open every week or go to our separated or twitter. Whatever so I just wanted to mention it on the podcast while I was here. Yeah, good idea. Fishy it. Is Not? The podcasts last episode we're still. Six hundred twenty. One. Six one next week. I read a crazy story. I WANNA talk about real fast before we. We wrap up here The headline that I read was the last American to collect civil war. Pension has died. Well Low! Like this recent, yes, as in like last week as A. June fourth! Was it like a? A Veterans Child Yes. It was a a a veterans child who was born in one, thousand, nine, hundred thirty. The veteran at the time was eighty four years old. When the child! How is still infrastructure for that? This this woman died. She passed away. She was ninety years old. She was collecting a pension. From the Department of veteran affairs. Every month for seventy three dollars. And A. Crazy. How? Things seemed like they were so long ago. But if you think about it like in a practical perspective like this and you're like. Oh, it really wasn't that long ago. The child the granted they were all, but the child of someone who fought in the civil war was still alive until last week. Yeah, that's two generations another eight hundred forty dollars a year. Were they adjust? Seem effort inflation, or was that just a flat rate that they had I? Don't know it didn't get into that. It didn't give the specific. Union or Confederacy. The her father had initially fought for the confederacy defected and fought for the Union. But I think that it was an interesting story because. It's a reminder that you think these things were so long ago and they weren't like. The civil war the civil rights movement in the sixties all these things that are in the history books. Ago Right back with the consequences of which still dealing with today which is. Very much in the public consciousness. You cannot dismiss it as something. That's like. Oh, we got over that forever ago. The happened way in the past someone's kid who fought in that war just. Like. It was not as long ago as you think it was, and it's something that we're still. Coming to grips with and is still something that is very front of mine these days, so you don't think that these things are. I mean obviously you can't think that these things are in the past nowadays, but it's not like it's the thing to remember is it's not as far away as you thought it was. It's it's a hell of a lot closer. Anyway. Let's. Just blown away when I read that. I had I had to share that with you guys because I read. An interesting story I have a document. Save it and I'd like account the podcast. Timelines I just don't like. Go through the timeline. My head is like. How is that even? Possible. A. Crazy. Eight is really fascinating that we live in a time right now. Where were you always hear the Term Lake our? Is it like reliving history or like history? up. Like you mentioned on the last podcast. It's like it's very very much living through a time right now. That will be talked about to our. Kids in their kids and their kids for years and years where? You are you are living through history at the moment it's like. There's so much converging right now. It's It's unbelievable. People joke about it like whoever the writer is for twenty twenty is trying to jam, too many story lines at once because it's just there's a lot going on Yup. And that's a quick reminder. black lives matter and keep donating. Keep protesting. If that's for you, keep spreading the word. Keep calling out racist. Don't stop. Just because clearly, things are still a big issue, so used that voice of Y'alls some of. The, the broadcast bunch did a stream yesterday i. if you guys saw it. You're doing some fundraising for color change. It was recorded a a stream on twitch last goal. I think their goal was two hundred and fifty dollars and I think they raise close to six thousand or just around six thousand. So that is incredible. It was a it was really really really cool to watch. How invested in it. So congrats guys was really good work. Okay well, it's about time to wrap up We'll see you guys next week for number six one and then. The

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The Boxing on a Corner in Vegas with a Gypsy and a Bomber Episode

The Corner

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The Boxing on a Corner in Vegas with a Gypsy and a Bomber Episode

"What listener we wanted to take a second to thank you for listening to this blue wire. Podcast be sure to show your support to this pond. By subscribing and dropping a five star review on itunes a follow on spotify or the appropriate job for any other platform might be listening. And if you're enjoying this show chances. Are you'll like one of our seventy five other sports. Podcasts find more shows you'll love at blue iron PODS DOT com. Thanks again for listening and now back to your regularly scheduled podcast. What up everybody. Welcome to another episode of the corner. Podcast it is fight week while reverses fury we are hype. We are back in. The same city was sub. Vegas I am back from Bristol to cover this fight. The old man is. Here's well we're not yet at our steak dinner but trust me it is going to happen. I hope this bad a steak for winning a Bet. So listen dray. You'RE GONNA get your steak. Don't worry about it but this show is packed today. Talking a ton of boxing talking about some other fun aspects as well and then to wrap up the show today we have an interview with John. Frankel from HBO HBO correspondent. It is an amazing interview talking about Patrick Day who is a boxer who passed away in October after his fight. They're doing a special on real sports about it. We dive into that. Ask Him everything from you. Know talking to Patrick's mother Patrick's brothers his trainer. It's crazy. It's an interview. You guys definitely WANNA stick around in here but I hold on. Let me take a sip of my white claw delicious. Dray where in the city baby is Vegas Time? I miss being around here with you. I missed urban loitering. Which hopefully we see this week. I missed it all. I love this big fight field yet. Dude I'm GonNa be honestly you know got back from Anaheim for the Ryan Garcia if I talk about in a minute which was actually really fun week and I was looking at the fight calendar. It's like this week. We have wild fury. Next week I go to Texas because we got a Mikey Garcia. Jesse Vargas then after that we have you have see but this particular fight week feels. I don't know if it's because all the Goddamn ads. Y'All been running in drilled into my head but I've already been looking forward to this fight and then the bt Sport promos have been fucking excellent but this fight fields dig. It does heavyweight boxing. This is what heavyweight boxing. It's supposed to feel like I legitimate. We'll talk about it when we preview the fight like the two big personalities. Two big stars you. Don't you really have no idea who's going to win? Or how it's not one of those like even mayweather Pacquiao where you said. I'll maybe Florida win. But you kind of like it's GonNa be decision packing. It's probably not gonNA Floyd. Oh and even other fights like suspense porter was big to me. 'cause I really WanNa see if I but it wasn't big like this feels like what the fuck is going to happen. It's like an end one round. It can go twelve rounds. I don't know who's GonNa win nothing in hopefully because of all the ads is that's been ran in all the people that are coming out in the well. Mid February is like I just want this to be an amazing five weekend. I'm legitimately excited for this week. Legitimately doesn't happen too often. I know man me too. I've been telling people all week that I'm so excited and in my travels I heard something I was like. You know what I could ask the old man about this. Because it's something that's weird to me. I was talking to someone and you know how you joke with someone be like Damn. I gotta be like you when I grow up like. Oh you're big time. I was joking and they came back dead straight face and big time like you made it and I was like what do I know you. You made it like. You're that guy like you're right. House like may feel uncomfortable. Like to the point where I was just Kinda like Stop playing and then switch. The subject probably go. I feel like Andres has gotten this for dumb long. I gotta ask him like M. I. Weird for feeling weird. 'cause someone said that to me and this is the first time probably since been at ESPN in a non joking manner somewhere looked at meals like not like you made. Yes like I don't know don't they compliment? I usually take compliments very well. I know you're a kind of a weird guy and you don't like compliments or praise or anything jolly but usually I take compliments tried. This one felt weird. I mean for me. It's for the most part would ends up happening is people who don't know what I do. Tell me how great I'm doing a lot of people really don't know what fuck I do. They're just like working zone. They don't really know like I'm senior editor like I do on. Camera suffered off camera stuff go to tons meeting like they have no idea what goes into what I do and they're all like you did it and I'm just like do you don't fuck I do. So how can you say I did anything you just sounds good in theory for streaming service like you look at. Espn's the brand tests us well so it's like people say you did it. I never let me get to my head no matter what. I've done grammy's Billboard Jay Z. Stuff documentaries like I I listen compliments I go thank you thank. Everybody says that stuff and then when people say they were inspired by something that I've done thank you. I appreciate that but I can't I can't get my head because this is gonNA sound and so some people that sound weird. My paycheck doesn't say that I made it. Even though my paycheck is fine and you know I make money like our see somebody. Who's like making more fuck anymore money and all the time so it's like you made it and I'm like yeah like it. Looks Great on the outside what I do but I want more and that's just always going to be no matter what I do when I see somebody. For Instance Matthew Cherry won the The Academy Award can. Oh yeah the Oscar for hair love and I'm looking at him and it's like following onto diem to get nominated and all that shit and I need to be like that guy. We're like Lena Wave. You'd be like you talk about made it like I've met a lot of people who feel like are so far ahead of me and I'm just like nine meeting it like I made it to. You know what I do but then I look at these people like they made it media so I am. We're guy I've hard time accepting compliments because I don't feel I haven't gotten that far. I don't see yes see. I figured I'd ask you because I know you're weird about these things and like to me is cool. Yes that Disney check. Does clear low bit different? It feels great mugging ally They'll tell my ex slash baby mama this because she'll just try to get more money especially after the comments last week. So let's let's keep this one on the hush between us But like hearing that statement and tell them like Elena talking to her and I was just like Yo. It's so weird because nothing has changed for me. I still record our podcast out of the guest room closet every week. Like people don't see this like you guys don't hear this but I record this closet like I go to work. I'm on campus but I don't really even notice when I'm there that I'm at ESPN. I've I've worked this much in this hard for eight years when I wasn't making damn near anything to do it. I haven't changed at all and when the person said it was like things that I laughed it off because I think of but I was like you by my actions. I've been this successful for eight years. The brain wasn't behind me. Espn wasn't attached my name or you know it was funny. I was listening to Rasa rap. Podcast shout out to Amelio and you guys are hilarious on their this week. talking about milking the rocks and. Strip club experiences drinking after that. So yeah that that show was hilarious but I was listening to that. It was like yeah. Espn's Caldeans you'll just fucking nuts. Because I don't feel any different I remember one time. My POPs So I mean I don't know if I told people listen to this show or whatever is not like a secret but my godfather chug bone is been in the music industry and like Anr New York for like ever he was. I mean Shit uptown offices so I tell I talk about on shelves running around uptown offices. Heavy D was chasing me. Playing tag fuckers keithly in athleticism but So that's how because my God one of my father's Uncle Shug bone. It was an Har- there and then his best friend since grade school was puff. That's how puff got the internship in. They started the internship around same time. Chuck I'm moved up. And then puff went back to school. Puff came back and started his internship when chuck was already an are so They've grown up together forever. My Dad and chuck. He's my godfather because they are also best friends but independently of my dad in puff Madonna puff never liked each other. Whatever I don't know why so. I remember my uncle got married. And My dad told me a story from the wedding because him and PUFFER COBRAS MEN. And it's like the only time he's talked often ten fifteen years. I don't know stupid grudge. And he as puppies like Yo. It's crazy is like They they're cordial and all the shit and they asked him if he was like real talk. What is it like being famous and published like? I don't I don't know I don't feel famous. He's like I get stuff that I want. I have money to do stuff but I don't feel famous. I just feel like me is like I felt like this since I was fourteen years old. Like nothing's ever changed. I'm just being me and I didn't understand and then this person told me that I was like Joe. This fucking we're not. I'm not even famous. Obviously I'm not Paul. I'm not. I'm not anybody personal does so I can pile cast and we do a couple of live shows. But I didn't feel any different. I was killed. That's fucking weird like my whole goal in media life his intimate ESPN. I got here and it allows me to say while chanting start on my Baby Mamas. Three count and bag on that like but outside of that like of the. I'm the same old me so it was funny. I was like Yo. Let me straight 'cause I know you like you've been on Kendrick stuff like film and documentaries and Grammy's and do a whole bunch of wild shit so I know you get it all the time where people like. Yo but you get a different you get the Yo put me on. No one's told me that shit yet. I'm not even on your level like pure come at me like you can you? Can you do this? Can you are hiring at? Espn get nothing. Yet they keep that somewhere else but I get that all the time. I don't bring that dear me but yeah it felt weird. I'll kill. I'm not different. They are not. Let me ask the old man about this and then the other thing. We won't name names because there's no news to be named but big fight weekends bring out especially boxing. We're not talking CONOR MCGREGOR TALKING. Emmy big fight week as bring out a Lotta groupie media and groupie tendencies in media members. I'm telling you I. We thought people were shooting at Pacquiao Mayweather. Once I ran into the everyone's running I was running a press room and fucking. Brian pumper was next to me in a wife. Beater and a press credential armor. I was like what is going on here. Brian pumper so there's a lot of weird stuff that goes on boxing week. So I'm preparing myself mentally for the groupie media and just that whole fiasco and I feel like come on black. We gotta do better. We talk about all the time. We need more black representation media and all this stuff. If you aren't Media Still Kinda act like you've got some common sense if you in the media room to- ruin it for the rest of us. Don't be taken pictures with athletes with boxers and shit like it's looking bad and I know you see it. Man I know you see the beat the groupie tendencies for whatever reason over that well see again semi left the music business. I'm Kinda Avenue. I haven't done as much music I used to like. I still premiers blog which I really don't tell people about in cases text me we talk about some shit whatever but for the most part. I'm in news combat sports and when I got here I was like year. This is going to be more professional in all these people are just gonNA do their work. The fucking like groupies still groupies. And it's like you know on the back of your media. Credential tells you like in so many ways not to be groupie like they don't get autographs and Shit like that in like early on in my journalism career of pack yet accident. Pactel Delaware Delaware after the fight. People were getting stuff signed and I went up to go do interview. Emeny packages grabbed. My credentialing signed. It and I was like a basketball to do this and then I think Kelly was issues. Like don't worry about it. So I like this autograph. Manny Pacquiao thing is in my like TUB random shit that I've collected but I felt weird because I was asked to do this but she wrestler journalists so-called journalists that with the ones with the video cameras and shit they were getting the shirt sign posted. Silence this is ridiculous. So yeah while fury has one is going to be less likely to come out on on and then too you can have all those journalists who want to Instagram Flex. Facebook FLEX whatever. It is talking about all their friends in the boxing industries. That are not really friends but they think you do two interviews with someone your friend. It's so these people are not your friends. They are obligated to talk to you and is so crazy because I have relationships in the industry and I don't talk about them a lot but the ones that the people who I actually know in this industry is not a picture on facebook is not. It's not even like you know my name right. Because there's a lot of fighters who know who I am because where I work in what I've done this a lot of rappers who know that as well as celebrities. But if I don't have you in my in my own and not just have you for arbitrarily like number and I'll take you and you never touch but we don't. We're not friends do like we're just not and I won't. I won't flaunt you as a friend. Like for instance nipsy hustle past. Mac Miller Pass. I would never call them. My friends we have communicated they knew who I was. We exchanged maybe a few emails. I've shadowed Mac Miller. I've been around but I would never be like that's my friend this other like journalists out here for whatever reason if you could get some more clout the only way that relationship means anything is if you can do something with it and for the most part. Y'All can't do shit with those relationships that you floss on social media because you took a picture with somebody you can't do Shit Woodham you'll get exclusive interviews or any like those youtube video p war fucking weird and bless them. I guess they're making money off youtube and everything but it's like what? What are you really? And listen. Outright in y'all's writing for the Bros. articles so best believe I know. Sometimes you gotTa do what you gotTa do for a check but at my base level is like. I'm still a journalist. I'm going to act as though I'm a journalist like you can go and do these guerrilla running up on people interviews but still be a legit journalists and not a groupie out. I'll give you a perfect example of somebody who knows people does carry a camera but does his Shit Ellie setback. Elliot's bad respected now. He's Ellie Mae respect. You like I know who is. Ellie was an NBA writer before anything else in l. e. like those videos with Kobe Ellie dental lot initiate and he had like a relationship. And you and I've known Ellie for a long time it never really losses relationships like you'll see them at Feis you'll see him like with camps and doing stuff but Ellie does his thing aim net. I don't see it. I don't see Marcos is like that too right like Marcos. He knows people and now he's on Fox and do like the score. Shit Click because he had that legit background behind exactly but then you got these other people who like you post a picture got to Armagh somebody that you don't really know you like that's my home. Statue fucking home you guys cut that shit out like I do. I hate it even now like this past week like I took a picture with Ryan Garcia. Because I'll tell you all about this shit but then what I didn't pose obviously like my niece's offices where like Youtube Culture Nausea and had Ryan give her a shoutout is because what ended up happening is law so this is like our fourth fight we Ryan Ryan knows who I am. And it's like we spent a lot of time together this weekend and he was like. I should just flick it up and I was like all right cool off now since my niece and then like for the most part when I'm away for a fight I don't take a bunch of pictures of myself with people around him but I just don't I pictures is what I'm doing because in on top of that like my job is like Yo. Why don't you pose want to don't don't pose on instagram post on twitter like so we well. We goes like years. My fucking favorite teams of course menopause. But like I'm not friends with these people like that. I'm just I'm not but this week. Dude everybody's GonNa be down to while his best friend everybody's GONNA be best friend every one of us in the in the most power. The people with the most power aren't even like this is what I learned. You're not friends with the artists. Not with the fighter. You're friends with the promoter. You're friends with the manager. You're friends with the people that can actually do shit. Because I don't really have that kind of time for you know Chateau the promoters Those are the people that are actually making connections with now. And that's amazing. That's the connection. Because the promoters like I I only saw Bob Arum from afar before and I'm not close to Baba and but just talking to him and having access to him and just picking his brain on like some of the and Baba's when it was unique guys like I don. I don't know if this is because he's older now. I don't. I didn't know young Bob or younger Bob our but here's like no filter anymore. Jesus didn't know young Bob. Goddamn like he has no filter whatsoever. So you catch them in the actually having a normal conversation he'll tell you the world in this conversation like Bob. Are you supposed to say this shape like inner workings of business above? Don't go fuck so like those conversations are Larry. Is You know just dealing with the individual managers. A boxer like those are cool conversations and even still. These people are are great the great acquaintances. They're great people to know and all my friends we are friends. We have group chats. We talk about Dumb Shit. I go free house for potlucks. I bring food. Your wife Cooks a whole feast for everyone. We WE DRINK. Crazy amounts liquor from your liquor stash which is just bonkers and you can't drink it all yourself so maybe a good friend. Try to help you out but like everyone else. Is it my friend like that and people get that friend word or like all that stuff way to lose? It's crazy to see media like that nothing and it's wild because we're at some fight. This should all blurs together now but seeing people be stands not even over celebrities but over instagram girls. Twitter girls like low level like Yo legit people will fan out for them just faster that will for deontay wilder. And it's it's bonkers to see these fights like the like you said so many celebrities will just be around. And that's what I guess make J. Paul Right Low impulse all these guys you put them on a fight night. Equal amounts of people going up to Jake Paul and Logan Paul than they are. Ryan Garcia Ryan's a huge like young kids star Star. Movie Star looks model crazy hands. Which will talk about a second Logan Paul and Jake Paul move the needle more and we'll get that same shit wilder fewer we. So that's that's crazy what we're in for this week. Do you expect urban loitering? Though it could be a fun fight week I think I don't know how rational will be because I think the the only real problem with this fight when it comes to urban loitering is so close. Nba All star weekend. Everybody spent their ask on the Chicago this week. So froze their ass off forcing degrees. I was like damn like I don't know if they're going to double back. Then have enough money to come to Vegas really urban lawyer. So that may prevent urban loitering a little bit but for the most part like I've talked to a lot of people and they're just trying to find my way down there and look at the schedule. This week is feels like a lot you know. It's like a lot of fighters and I've talked to. They are going to come to town just for this fight. This is this is that going to do. Like the four and a half million in the fucking Jones says territory said on on. That was ridiculous. It's not going to do with the pack but it's GonNa be. It'll probably be the biggest fight of the year unless Nello numbers which are an easy. No but I know me intrigued. And it's a heavyweight fight in Vegas. Should we big end? The machine is moving. You cannot turn on Fox or ESPN without seeing it. Not Oh man that's it. Wasn't the gas station pumping it is. It's on the gas pumps word. Yeah so they should. I was in la at the gas pumps. When I was at Disney filling up the rental boom I saw the commercial. I was like this. Wow but a shoutout to them and cut me these checks for over time. Get it I get my little piece of the Pie too. So if you guys are listening make sure you buy while their fury to ESPN. Plus this weekend if you need the code to buy it checkout ESPN ringside shameless plug. Listen I'm trying to get this paper No there's no about the Ragu. See a fight though so you were there and man in the Ring Ryan Garcia looked like a star. It looked like and I'll tell you this past week. I didn't go too crazy on wilder fury at work in socially but you know normal social posts throughout the week Ryan Garcia. Social POSTS. Blew everything out of the water or anything else. Close was devastating social posts and a lot of those were about Ryan Garcia. Yes O. Rien Garcin. So I see I said at the beginning of the Devon. Haiti was the guy that disowns his hitch their wagon to. And that was there the Heaney Wrangler seat because I wasn't sure about Ryan Thing was after the Carlos Morales fight where he got hurt to the body before he got with Any Reynoso since then in some people be like well. You know those guys are like Romero. Do No and Fonseca who he blew both those guys out in the first round in do was a guy who a lot of people say give Ryan trouble in one night night. Yeah Fonseca was a guy who went into this. There was so many things. I've got a lot of traction on social media posted to things that a lot of traction one is. I posted a picture of Devon Haney of Mikey Garcia. Find Two hundred twenty. Who would win? That shit went nuts. The other thing was when I posted that Ryan Got Free Fresco Francais Guy with one round. When it took Devante Davis eight people went nuts on that post was just like oh you descend devante uneven. Disa- I'm just telling you what the fact is. Yeah Devante Fonseca in the CO main event of Cada McGregor versus Floyd Mayweather. And it was supposed to be a showcase fight for devante. Any didn't look that good. He got out of the eighth round but he I think he didn't with a punch behind the head that was really controversial and the called the fight after eight Ryan cleaned his clock with one of the. I'm not gonNA say was the most beautiful center for a left. Hook but he had baited him. He later left. Hook realized that Fonseka was super aggressive. Backed off and then he turtle enough for a hot second just to give funding the idea that he can lunge in and Brian. Garcia's hands unbelievably fast. Guy Should right so you teach this shit like no. I've watched him worked admits. I've watched them work. That bag like Floyd Mayweather shows that you know we hit the pads like wow. This has really fast but Bryant. She's twenty one with these twitch reflexes. It's an input power behind it. Fuck April Second Asleep Day. Birdied kills rap. Dunn's Oh it's he has the makings of a world champion even with the in a tough in crowded division at he has the makings of an undisputed world. Champion he has the reflexes. We saw intense Crawford so we but without being so I was. I'm still a devastating. Haney got it is what is you. I said it for years now. You put Haney against anyone. I'm taking Devon Haiti Haney against the Field Ryan included in that. Because I think Haney just bigger. He's more POW Ryan so quick but I think Haney would have to lean on one. Helluva fight the. It's one of those you know. Hagler Leonard Fights right like where the spouse or so different and both are so talent but looking at Garcia he might grow in. Learn like to me. He's out working everyone else right now. And if they're even now or if he's a little bit behind in four years I think out works tank Davis to me. Who has no sense of accountability in his actions? And I think he's going more than he is. Mayweather now Devon Haney. I don't get that same. Amy Spending money. Whatever you making money spend money kid. Have a ball you know. Have Your instagram girlfriend. Would CHEEKS OUT ON INSTAGRAM? God bless Do Do you think young men but he takes his craft very seriously still occur takes his cranberry seriously. Still I look at your Auntie. I'm thinking like Yo. Drowsy is going to get Keith. Thurman and I'll put that shit out now like cool. He knocks people out all this stuff when these boys gets home therefore devante up? And that's that's real talk like he's he's going to be. We'll keep their milwaukee thermal was one time and then now you like keep them not being earl. Spencer's to keep them not beating Terence Crawford. These guys were right next to him. Conham surpass them. And I think it's going to be like that for Devante way worse so there's a couple of things one. I made the statement Ed piece that I wrote on Sunday. That the hundred thirty five pounds of his is the most exciting boxing. One thirty five is by far even better than welterweight and I know that people really look at one thirty five thirty five has arguably the number one pound for pound guy was forty seven as arguably one pound for pound guy and Terence Crawford. The also varies aerospace. But then here's where it gets interesting Loma Janko Team Lopez Devante Davis Richard. Call Me Ryan Garcia Devon Haney Havi for tuna tank Davis looming. Mikey Garcia mypyramid. Mike Economic Thirty five talk. No no but but any of those guys can fight Mike at one forty. Well yeah that's true. Oh but this. This is an most of them. Are under. Twenty Five Ryan's twenty-one Devon's twenty one twenty two twenty three twenty twenty two twenty five debts nuts like we have never had nice never remember we have not had a division. We're top guys like these guys and all the WanNa fight each other. That's like the best part. They all want to fight each other. Then you have to sing it the top and then we're GonNa get to your female Lopez which seems like it's going to be in spring and from I can say this now Ryan Dorsey is probably GONNA fight. A way in Lanarkshire is on July eleventh. Devin Haney is going to be back in mayor June. Don't know who he's GonNa fight coming off of surgery and then we got your Donahue Devante is GonNa Fight. We'll see you. GotTa fight the judge. I and these charges Xinyang right. But so there's divisions like Super Low. Now here's the other thing when you mentioned ten Davidson's disciplined right. So I sat down Ryan Garcia several times this week on Thursday Ryan because reisman really adamant he's going to retire in five years he's been really adamant about it and I keep telling me he's alive time for us he's like you're saying that's just being young young kid being everybody in twenty one you look at thirty like fuck. That's all and then thirty comes you like. Oh Shit. It's nothing like I'm just physical pry anyway because he's like I WANNA fight tank. Name is next dividends great exception to this heated this week. And he's like he's GonNa fight is easier fight to make whatever we WANNA fight tank and I was like why why they wanNA fight them and I was like I was a serious. So you think you'd be everybody's like of course. But here's the thing about tank textile disciplined. He's never seen me fat in between fights. You never seen Devon fat in between fights never seen lower take effect in between fights you see tank fat in between fights. He's like tank has all this power and he's exposed. He's very talented. I want this. I want to get to him before somebody else does through. It's a race to see who beats them. I believe that and I think he'll probably gets the first crack. That a real champion Disney relationship between them two now and I think Te'o Fema washes his ass that if he can get past Loma but You know what I'LL HITCH MY WAGON TO VIMA. I think in I hold my in so high regard like such high regard is crazy. Thinking steel females time. I think the Funeral Beats Loma and then beats beats Devante later in the year I think whoever faces Devante who's a legit person beats him. 'cause I I agree with Ryan. The guy's not disciplined now right now. He's not focused and sense. Broder guy would away with it because the competition level wasn't there when Boehner was running through the ranks right like bronner caught like the perfect the perfect jumping steps where he avoided a lot of key guys during that time you to become what Afford Division Champ. I think all four of his belts came on vacated titles trash opponents. Don't tell classes that no no but but yeah like so Travolta doesn't have that luxury he's not going to have that luxury and we be remissed if we didn't mention Virgil Ortiz. At one forty waiting for a lot of these guys Devon. His Dad was like oh no one wants to fight this at one. Thirty five forty virgils up there. Let's hold on Virgil fights. He fights on March twenty eighth in virtual tease. He just doesn't have much of a personality but when he crashed those hands though he gives me. Just Roberto Duran flashbacks. So here's taken away for five weeks. So yes Ryan. Garcia is a star. He brought him out to the fight. He brought like ten thousand two hundred eight to the fight in a Honda Center. Obviously Jake Paul and Lulu Paul. Was there saw social media. I Call G. Paul's like immediate reaction way recording him. His mother has tons of followers on top of that. Ragas like five million instagram followers. It's nuts and he's leveraging this as a boxer but the other thing that happened through the week is like Devon Haney Shit talking tour which is very fun to watch so heaven shows so demonstrators are we. We're trying to figure out what's going on with David. He shows up. He's we knew he was going to be ringside. We knew going to step in and the brain. Because even if he doesn't fight Ryan next. We need to start building that fight. Because that's the obvious collision course. So Devon gets the town and the first thing Devon does he's got we have a media launch. It was very small with Devon Mikey Garcia chocolate T to. I CAN'T REMEMBER. Who else was there knowing people I cared about I get there. I see Devon Devon looks and Mike is Doing I think Devon did a few interviews I the MIC doesn't of us so devon goes on to say what's up and I don't know what happened and it wasn't like wasn't like be mean each other but they just kinda stare at each other down and they took pictures and that's why I took that picture them what happened. That little moment happens. He walks away. I walk sitting at the same table. Devils entrees Mikey's fucking small outs like yeah like Mikey. Mikey really has no business at one. Forty seven he small dead as hard time getting to one thirty five. He's like I find like I'll fight him. His pops it was his trainer was like yeah. We'll fight them and I posted on social media in debt. Looked at he laughed. And you re tweeted it and use like year star some shit in a nice. Because the thing about Debbie's such a nice kid like I call Kim because he just turned twenty one ks like Yeah WanNa fight him so that happens. So the asks Devon about Asia and Browner. Devon's like fucking. I'll fight him to get down to forty. Can you get another thirty five? He's like Hell No. You can't get the thirty five. I'll be disaster forty or cash. We beat his ass okay L say well who else what about feeling he's GonNa want to smoke if you talk about me and stop sending. Emojis beat his ass to ally and then he's like well. I'm talking about it. Gary Russell said he wanted to come to one thirty five he can get these hands too. And I'm sitting here in like my one of my zone producers like Holy Shit. We're realizing how many different people that Devon Haney can fight. And then he looks like Mike. I'll find him to like because he's tired. All these people running away from me. I'm the WBZ champion. He's champion and says he's on the WBZ champion If you WANNA come to me and I'm like well fuck and then denied the fight. We're all wondering we had a production. Where like I'm going to go in the ring and say anything or just GONNA stand there. Because he's a nice guy definitely gets in the ring it was like. You're not a real champion. Fight Me Ryan. I'm high duties endeavors just like okay. Fight me and we're just like do we don't have too many guys run around talking shit to everybody in our nights like he's friendly but he's fuck you up and it's like the friendliest fuck you up ever and it's almost offensive. You Smile and saying fuck me I enjoy this is. This is what boxing needs right now. The Youth Movement because these guys all have strong social media followings like FEMA. We're going viral with the celebration. Dances Devon because he established his presidency. He's dated Black China for a hot second. He's got like bad chicks on instagram. And all this and Ryan with his five million instagram followers. Good time for Boxing. Even assuming it was like one point eight hours but these guys have all their own particular fan basins and like Devante his base and he brings him out the all the all. Bring out non boxing things and there's the key element for all of them. All MAKE PEOPLE CASUAL FANS. WanNa Watch and they're all GONNA is GonNa make those fights huge massive. It's just when like these guys. That's what's different about this generation in past generations. These guys are stars at. Twenty one twenty two twenty three twenty five. You catch stretched until they're thirty thirty one thirty two thirty three. It's so different. You can't wait ten years. They're going to force these fights at twenty six twenty four years old in the other crazy is I was looking at him. Like we don't know Garcia Fonseca. But we're like don't you still say he's not that good and like he's like the. Norwich fight that makes us a lot but we all these wash lanark has been cheating for a long time. We look at Ryan Garcia Devante Davis in Devon hating and their three guys. That you that you look like man that could be the future of this sport right but they all have really necessarily fought like stiff competition. Then you have a FEMA Lopez. Ta Fema Oh. Beat the brakes of Richard Kami. Who beat the shit out of him? And now he's getting ready to fight for Celia Loma Chanko. Which means he's the first one. He's the first one that youth movement that might enter the pound for pound ranks immediately. If he'd be slow I got to be four. He I mean he's he's got low lowest damn near one. That's what I'm saying for. A lot of people is one moment Crawford. Canola are one. Abc Right now. Yeah I mean you go listen Cannella one hell of a jump with the after the mayweather loss in the triple j fight really took mellow site. Skyrocketing up those those close fights if female really beats Loma Chango. Y'All he got to be top. Five Twenty waste twenty two or twenty three twenty two and he has to be over. Ny maybe but he's four regardless competition level. That's not even close no more. That's what I'm saying like. Tyson was a champion at twenty one. That people have just blown away by taxing but if he does this and he beat slow machiko he gets low thirty one year. Old Ass out of here and now you have all these twenty five and under guys jockey for pound for pound position in this in this ain't division that's nuts and it's going to be. What boxing was you know for those years when you when you had? Hagler hearns Leonard like we we romanticize that period but the people living through just like this is how it's supposed to be and not only that like all of those guys went up because we're young so the eventually all I had to move up like durant was lightly champion. He went all the way into junior wasn't as effective because he was probably in the best light weeks the world has ever seen so he lost some of the powers. He moved up but natural progression. Says you gotTa Gain Weight Sugar Ray? Leonard who lost a durant. A lightweight moved up and became better moving up. So it's interesting to see how these guys are gonNA shape careers as if bodies can no longer stay at one thirty five with all going to be around each other and that's when you have Virgil Ortiz. That's we have Jose Ramirez because Ramirez. Instagram was cut to one thirty five. All the and I would do it like this is what we want all the smoke and they all see before you couldn't see in between thirty to forty before forty seven. That's why Mike you went up to forty seven. It was like there's nobody to hear anymore. I asked my I was like you look at these guys. They can meet me at forty because I think make it thirty five but I know that they can make forty like do forty reversal. It's stat Jose. Ramirez Ramirez Reaches Program Mojo Ker. Josh Taylor like Stacks Seven. Come on man box in place right now. I laugh last week when Brunner said my next fight. I'M MOVING BACK DOWN TO ONE. Forty like naughty Dot says that's not any easier for you anymore. You can block making that weight too. There's no easy flies down here for you. You're not just going down and just grabbing a title for the fuck of it beating you up and dam even at forty seven. Is Ron boots. Ns fucking savage there and this is A. B. N. It's twenty two twenty two twenty three. I mean obviously not them. We'RE GONNA go to David Ben Evita's but now you're David Kayla plan who just beat the shit out of fighting Bush. This weekend like these two. Boxing is in a really really really good space right now with a bunch of young talent the all have their own fan bases and the all. WanNa fight each other. Hopefully you'll this kid. There's nineteen twenty year olds in the Olympics. We're talking about United States kids. You know how many people were in the Olympics and just couldn't turn pro because they're waiting for this summer nineteen eighteen nineteen twenty year olds. That are just waiting. Loma chain go. You don't think low Marchinko Lucic Triple G. These guys have a crazy impact in their home countries. We're now all these kids are like no fucking. We're waiting for the Olympics. Because that's what they did but it's on so you're going to add a whole nother. What eight nine guys after this Olympic classes? Don You look at Sha Kerr you look at Forgot about security once six so yeah shakers at one twenty six. But he's going trying to unify the title against Warrington here this summer. Probably beyond zone. They Co promoted but You you look at stuff like that. You look at guys who waited until after the Olympics wilder was an Olympic. These guys who are great fighters. Now who had to wait until they had the Olympic on and then came in. We're not even talking about any of those guys yet. And they're eighteen nineteen twenty. What's your we're adding a whole nother wave of ten people. We even mentioned the doo-bok hit or whatever and heavyweight fights nuts. Boxing's in great hands. It's GonNa be one hell of a crash. Course when these guys are stars at twenty five and hold belts and they decide to jump up to one forty seven and Terence Crawford aerospace giants Not Pacquiao but you know. Some of these guys are still around your like you gonNa tell those guys they're gatekeepers. It's kind of scary. More good collision course is going to be amazing Let's talk about this show on this weekend's fight and that is Tyson fury versus the Auntie. Wilder undercard is a nobody cares. Charles Martin Sparse But the main event is going to be worse than pro worth the price of emission official prediction for the fight. Dray we got okay so after the first fight happened. I think. Reconsider this on the podcast. I said fury seen everything that wilder has to offer. He should have an easier time beating him the second time around. It's been over a year since this happened. Dancing wildest killed two men and got away with fury fought out of jail in Towns worse won both fights and I don't. I'm not using the those fury's measuring stick because I think they were mostly about him getting round saying but we'll see what I thought about was dense while started boxing late in he's still learning shit in against Louis or teasing learnt patients. If you go back and watch I wild a few refi. There was no patience while I was trying to kill that man from the opening. Bill in Fury's too good to fall for those basic traps. Wild alert has better traps and saw audience. Luis Ortiz rematch was two. There's two ways you can go in my opinion. I'm picking while to win by knockout. That's my Fischel pick because I think I'll these anyway hill that while if you hit fury again infuriates up again. I it's over I I. I'm just saying you gotta like people forgetting about this when I see him didn't hurt because he talked about the second night. Now what the first knockdown. He was knocked out twice. We got so curious like how how felt his power because fury said they click all the more power. Unbelievable things blow smoke. I think he's like he's doing everything. Avoid that picking while to win. But here's the path of the Tyson Fury. Victory Tyson. Fury says coming in two hundred and seventy pounds. A lot of people think he's doing that for more power. I don't think that's why he's doing it. I think he's doing it to smother deontay wilder and this is the only way he wins. This fight if you fight the water a distance and anybody who seen this is furious now gone from. He's going to SUGARHILL HIS NEW TRAINER. Shuki hills in knockout guy. But he's also close quarter guy if you fight the water from a distance. You're dead man because he's on he's going to catch you if he extends you're done fury's best shot at winning. This fight used to pressure from the opening bell in US at two hundred and seventy pounds in lean on his ass. Just wear him down with infighting. If he can do that he may be able to knock him out of noise about the second round. Knockout Shit. Nobody believes him but he may be able to wear him down because that kind of size that we've never seen anybody size lean on him and DNC is not the greatest infighter distance. And if you get punched. Yup that's very wins. But I don't think he's going to happen. I think every faith starts with two guys far apart from the ring. I think while there's going to eventually welcome into one was produced. I'll tell you this much. I don't think he's going to the judges. Somebody's getting a knockout or stoppage in Furious Bar I don't think fury knocks wilder out cold. But I think he can bombard him if he does later in the fight. Eighth Ninth Round Bombard him enough that the REF stops the fight. You know dropping them once. Stagger wilder can't keep fury off him and then the fight is called right. So you see that I'm going with wilder. Ko into because I honestly and obviously being around the fight in close quarters and everything and seeing every fury interview done leading up to this and speaking with him on several occasions in everything he wholeheartedly believes that he can fight his best fight which he did last time thinking his heart. He thinks his last fight was his best. Buy You can give wilder and the judges won't say it's enough to give him a decision so he'd rather die on his shield then let them rob him. It's the triple g effect against CANOLA RIGHT TRIPLE G. That second time came out and try to fight the same fight as the first one got robbed again. Then just got pissed and you might not get another shot. Fury's I believe not GonNa let that happen. He's going to go out there and he's going to try to punch would deontay wilder and say. I'm two hundred seventy pounds. I can take that fury in one is interviews a Mark Kriegel interview. He said wilder hit him in the first round. The last fight with Jab right between the eyes is one of the hardest punches he ever been hit by and he can't figure out what wilder doesn't use his job. He was like us like his exact quote was. If that's how hardest jab fields I gotta stay away from that right hand and he talked about grabbing and you know just making sure he didn't get in range of that Jab so when people talk about wilder blinds people with his job when he throws a real Drab Jab. The blinding is the punch force. That that JAB comes with she hits you between your eyes out and then boop the right hand is there as soon as you you wince and I think deontay comes into this fight and says I'm going to throw this job a lot and it's going to leave him open for that right hand and we saw that in his last fighting as lean. If you can Jab Tyson fury you could hit him with a follow goodluck jabbing him right. That's that's his key. He so fast so quickly so nimble. Good luck placing your job in the correct spot to hit him clean. I I think wilder does that and I think he knocks him out and honestly. I think this is going to be a trilogy of fights I think Tyson fury says you know what those a quick knockout. Let's go again and standing with him and try to knock him out isn't the right strategy. Let me go back to what I do. Best and box. I think this sugarhill experiment is going to not that. He's searching for an excuse but it's going to provide the right excuse if he gets knocked out and says you know what else fighting style. That isn't mine. I have to be a better boxer than him. I'm not a better puncher. Well that's a I can see it by live by the sword. Die By the sword in that mall. Fucker wilder got the big sort out and we both agree. This is this is not going to distance like if it goes to this again. I'll be I'll be surprised but yeah I think these guys have spent twelve rounds where you tell the other thing like saying like remains the same guy when he stepped into another fight with in a rematch he murdered a man legally against so many homicides on his record there's been voted him in half does he. He knew what he had offered. I don't know nothing. Jd's is gonNA come with the right plan for the. I really don't like that ties. Fury Changed Trainers. I don't I just don't I don't like it either at all. It usually everybody that ever talk to this which trainers everybody even just talked about Ryan Garcia about this. It takes it takes a fight because you you still go back to your old habits when you change trains in the other thing is that you need you need to be in real time events to take instruction from a new trainer because we're really all matters is in the corner when you're adrenaline is still high. We just came off with three minute rounds in. That new person is in your ear. Not Guy that used to somebody else's in your giving instructions. And how do you listen to them? And I think that reports. It's not going to be there. We shouldn't do I think with the I'd say he knows. Jd's they know each other. Then they know like jd's concede see all right. I know how to fix this. I don't I don't think he's going to be able to do that with ties for you. Even though tiger has a very huge ring I Q. I just think it's going to be weird for him to not have that voice in this quarter that is used to and it's GonNa lead to his demise. Yeah and let's be real. He hasn't slugged against any of the guys. He's one is big. Fights against that coach. Will fight was boring as hell and he smothered Klitschko said. He turned that into the most boring fight. Ever anyone like he's trying to reinvent the wheel and it's something you can do against amateurs. I went back to sugarhill. I trained you know a Himalayan Stewart earlier in my career. Like what two thousand eleven two thousand twelve like. Yeah but you were fighting tomato cans back that this is a whole different classified under it. I don't like the strategy and I think this wakes up and then he goes back to whatever strategy and maybe that's not good enough to fight wild. Don't be wilder. Who knows but so one last thing is that it doesn't have anything to do fight because brought to interview. The the most exciting thing for me is to wash. Espn and Fox. Pbc people working this week. I ain't got because the fact that I work at zone we deal with this shit enough like Like we work at golden boy which naturally and I gotta deal with the politics on Shit. I know it feels like would you like to complete other sides of the spectrum so I can only imagine the bullshit. I can't wait. It's it's going to. I'm going to earn every penny I make this week. So it's going to be crazy scene in Vegas. That's why I'm going to enjoy when I take off a steak dinner. I'M GONNA get a steak mme self and we're going to have drinks and we're going to know coincidentally Thursday night. We have like a meteor mixer. Open Bar they know what the Hell's going on we're GONNA need that open bar see. I kind of know who? This is a pretty serious of watching brothers production yet. They tend to do this. Anybody watching the Watson Boys are. I feel like this is their doing. Listen Open Bar. It's lit so bad. It's going to be excited week and next week when we cap it. Let's go to be even more exciting and yeah. It's a crazy week in combat sports. All right. Everybody we're going. Take a quick break to tell you about our sponsor bet online bet online the fastest and easiest way to bet on all things sports madness masters and Major League opening day. Right around the corner that online. Has you covered for all of your latest news? 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Andres Hale has stepped away for a second. But I will be holding down if you guys don't know coming to. Hbo Just a powerful powerful segment on real sports on Pat Day. And he's trainer Joe Higgins If you don't know patch date unfortunately passed away. After his fight last year it was just an eye opening experience for the boxing world. And we have John. Frankel here to discuss real sports and why they decided to tackle this subject in kind of the angles. They went with it. So Jon thank you for joining us today. Arthur March. Yeah I just WANNA get right into it if you don't mind. Where did this idea come up to feature Patrick Day and it's still so fresh right? It's a memory. We remembered in the boxing world. October sixteenth just a horrific night for the sport of boxing are horrific tragedy. And what really made you guys think of? You know what we want to tackle this subject. We think we this is the right time to do so. Our Producers Chapman Down Stephen Lorenzo. Who WORKED ON THE PEACE? Were the ones that came up with the idea to profile. Patrick posthumously and and take a look at this I think impart Stephen. Lorenzo had covered boxing before he came to real sports. Chapman's one of our veteran producers. They know a good story when they see when they no good characters they know when there are relationships that are important to delve into and I think they also had recognized that over the last twelve fourteen months there had been several other deaths related to boxing and they felt it was the right time to to tell the story when I watched a portion of that story immediately grabs you. It's just one of those stories where you can't prepare it whereas take you your is awesome rates polarizing and you guys did just amazing job featuring one of the biggest events from boxing last year but the way that you guys went about it. It's more of a celebration strikes me in the life of Patrick Day then. It is kind of beating the drum of boxing's brutality. Is this something you're Evans about. Absolutely I think that we looked at the possibility of not not damning boxing but we looked at the idea of exploring whether reforms in boxing should be taking place given the past and given that there were other boxers over the last year who had died in the ring but I think that what was most compelling about. This was the relationship between Patrick's Day and Joe Higgins is trainer and mentor More than a trainer because he'd really introduced him to the sport and of course the relationship between Patrick and his own family particularly his three brothers. What's what's challenging about. It of course is that in essence. You're you're telling the story about the relationship between these these men and one of them isn't there. We can't interview one of them. There's obviously some sounded you hear from Patrick prior to the fight with Conwell And then some other points but you know it. It's difficult to try and get across what people mean to one another if you can't interview one of them. But I think the Joe Higgins is such a compelling character So animated so interesting so passionate that he impart speaks for Patrick. And and you get a sense of who Patrick was through. Joe As you do from from Patrick's brothers is three brothers. Spoke so admirably and such loss about him that you understand and you feel for their loss and for Patrick Zone demise in this situation because he clearly with an individual that had so much to offer definitely in this piece will be the introduction for many people. Aren't you know hardcore boxing? Fans to learn about who packed gay was and to really learn of Joe Higgins in their relationship. We see a lot of fighters who are father son relationships in terms of boxer manager. We see others who may not be father and son but have that close bond. This might be the first time. People are getting insight to Patrick in Joe's bond. What's something that you learned from them during this experience that maybe you didn't know before that really sticks out. I think you're right. I I and to be to be completely honest I. I was not familiar with Patrick Day. And unfortunately for him you only learn about him through his death And and does not seem to happen all too often right and if things go according to plan if things follow their natural course You don't hear about them. It's really the extraordinary or the unusual and then all of a sudden. You're you're made aware of somebody and I think that sadly in this is the case of Patrick Day but I think that what's really special about this relationship is that you've got Patrick Day. This kid lives across the street. Two houses down from Joe Higgins and one day. He wanders into what's essentially an open garage. Where there's you know a heavy bag in a speed bag and cup other instruments of boxing and Patrick just takes it upon himself to try his hand at it and without invitation show comes down and says you know hecker you you know. I know you from the neighborhood but And and but he lets them go at it. Because that's what your daddy had this gym the makeshift Jim in his garage. That allowed kids to use the the equipment and the next day. Patrick comes back the next day after that and he and he proved to be pretty good at and before you know it joe says you should come down to the real jim that we have which is a a REC center in the middle of town in this on Long Island where they live and and you know the rest goes from there But I think what Joe Talks about? What made Patrick so special and I think this is also a critical element to the story. Is that Patrick came from a family. That didn't follow the narrative of so many boxers that we hear about he was not a hardscrabble kid he was not coming out of the inner city he this wasn't he wasn't an at risk kid if you will. His father is a doctor. His mother's a translator had worked at the UN. His brother resolve. Older Brothers had college degrees Patrick himself. In the process of moving up the amateur. Boxing ranks into the pros had earned himself his college degree. So this was a kid who in essence didn't follow the the natural course or the traditional. Course I would say of boxers and some might even make the case. Didn't need boxing per se. Because he had this wonderful family infrastructure and support because he had a college degree and and then what's thrown into the mix and all this because of perhaps all those things Patrick's Mother did not want him boxing and had gone to Joe on a couple of occasions. Please don't don't expose my son to this Only bad things can happen. And who knew that you know she? Would you know how foreshadowing it was and as his career progressed? It's we were told Patrick's mom never went to fight. She never saw him box in person. She wasn't a fan of it and sort of monitor it through her other sons who would gather around the TV or who would go to fight and keep her posted Through the phone but So the brothers would go to fights. Mom wouldn't and but I think all of those elements made this an incredibly compelling story because he didn't have the traditional boxer. You had a neighbor across the street you had the college education and then at the end of the day this was Patrick's passion and that's that's what he wanted to do. Definitely we just saw the return of Charles Conwell for the first time on February eighth. Since the Patrick Day fight and He stepped back in the ring. The facts that this has on the other person in the ring is also a narrative that many often forget Patrick's family you know we get to hear from in here from his brothers and you get that sense of loss but this is something that also kind of follows Charles around. I think your piece really does a great job of highlighting. How many people are affected? Is the go ahead. No I was just wondering is there like did you really get that scope of like. Wow his his untimely death really had this large radius of effect on so many people. Yeah absolutely and we interviewed shows conwell and in the end we we didn't use him in the piece But we've made the trip to Toledo Ohio and met him and clearly. This has had a profound impact on Charles and not enough to derail his career. Which I think is is right I think that Joe Higgins makes that point The Patrick Charles to stop boxing. Charles Echoes Bat. That if anything. He's fighting on for Patrick when we tend to grasp but those sorts of cliches. But I I think that's true and Charles made some interesting points that you know all of that prefight hoop rose. You will But that that height that takes place between fighters nobody ever means it literally Or or rare him. The two boxers every LANTA Mossy for each other. They understand it is sport. It's fight but in sports and and so you talk a big game and why yes. You're in there to to win. You're not in there to maim somebody permanently permanently damage and injure them or you know. Of course the worst case scenario So Italy punched them And and sadly for Charles you know he's got to live with that and I think there's a huge Emotional mountain for him to con in order to get back into the ring. H- how does how does he fight and think about Patrick and worry about doing this? Potentially to another boxer without putting himself at risk. You can't go in there and and do it. You can't pull punches so to speak in the in the in the ring you know you gotta go out there to to to do your job But I think Charles being a young guy himself is You know really affected by this. He said he the same day that he found out. That Charles that Patrika died was the day the Charles found out that his girlfriend was pregnant. And there's I suppose you know. The circle of life is wrapped up in that story as well. I haven't been involved in the in the untimely and and certainly accidental death of somebody and then to know that you're you've you've helped give life to another being You know that that was that was somewhat profound. I think for Charles But I I think that. As you said Patrick's Patrick's death radiates throughout. And you know with Joe in with his three brothers and certainly with his mother and you know we tried to. We requested to talk to Patrick's mother. She was just not in a in a state which she felt comfortable talking to us. I think in her health has been compromised as a result of this. And you know she's so sad and she's grieving so much that her own health is is at risk now and And so the brothers feel that and I think you have these three brothers who feel this obviously tremendous loss while they supported their brother and they they sell. Boxing gave him so much and now they sit here with you. Know with a hole in their heart. And it's really unfortunate. And all this is that you've got Joe Higgins on one hand who's grieving you've got these this family the day family and the three brothers grieving and and because of the proximity with which they live one another across the street a couple houses down. They still see each other from time to time. And it's awkward at strained and and it's really a shame right because they're all grieving the same thing they all love this person obviously it. There's different ways to lot of different levels. And he was blood to the brothers. But I think Joe had such a passion and and for for this young man And yet the sides they can't they can't really look each other in the Eid day. At least not yet which is understandable. Yeah you know the days the days feel somehow joe as some responsibility and all this and that's natural to want to hold somebody responsible point the finger. How could this have been? How could this have been avoided But I think one of the other things that we explored the layered the layered relationship between Joe and Patrick as you probably know. Joe is a former firefighter. In The New York Fire Department and Jo Jo suffered a previous laws. He lost his own brother on nine. Eleven was also a firefighter. And as a result in the aftermath of nine eleven joe and cleaning up down at the site at Ground Zero had some serious health issues of his own he was unable to continue to be a firefighter and he lost his brother. He lost his job is health was compromised and then he he faces his own depression through all this but then. Patrick is the guy that helps bring him out of and and so they give each other they each give each other something Ah You know renewed hope lights something to strive for something to work for and and then joe loses pack again And initially what's really interesting is initially Joe. Thinks like Charles Conwell. You know? Joe Thinks it's time to get out of the box and game. He says the heck with this you know I can't. I can't lose another fighter. I can't another kid go through this And he really comes very close to closing down his Jim and at the end. I think with a little little time and a little distance. He comes to realize that he's probably helped. So many kids along the way young fighters that he doesn't want to deprive this opportunity and and he wants to continue to expose kids to the benefits of boxing which obviously there there are many. No Yeah I mean. That's the harsh reality after you know watching something like this. So many people have to live on this loss and try to do something so different than what their day to day. Life was just a few months ago. They were in the families without a brother without a son without a fighter. Lightest is very different in. You know we see that throughout this piece and then we're coming up on a weekend where we have a fight between two heavyweights one heavyweight. Deontay wilder is one of the biggest knockout artist. Of all time. You know we we see him. He's very cordial. After fights he says much of what you just said. This is for sport stuff said before. This fight is for sports for selling. I wish no hormone noman. And he's he's much like that after the in the ring after he wins but recently he just double down on his statement of saying he wants to catch a body in the ring of meaning. You know he it's insinuating. He wants to hit someone hard enough to kill them. It's a little condo contradicting on his part. But when you watch a piece like this is there something when you hear a fighter especially if his profile that now makes you cringe. Sure I. It's somebody else. What reforms does this require? Boxing? And should there be changes. And and what do I think about the future of boxing and You know. Boxing has been around since the beginning of time it you could make the case. It's not it is not day. What it once was as a sport and and a place in this country and you know it. It's been replaced by other sports in terms of popularity. But I think that when you watch fighters and I I WANNA believe. Maybe I'm wrong about this. I want to believe that the fighters that step into the ring don't WanNa permanently maim their opponents that they are doing it for the sport of it Is it is it barbaric on some levels. I suppose it. Is You know the idea of getting in there. And and how can you say? I don't really want to name somebody but I'm certainly going to fight them. You know I I got to protect myself and I'm and I'm going to fight them and and I'm GONNA punish them and I even proposed to somebody the other day and I don't know if you're gonNA seems Kinda crazy. I don't know whether you could ever create a boxing environment in which you said you know you know when we're not gonNa Punch people in the head anymore that's GonNa be the same way in football targeting Hockey's tried to make some reforms. Could could you say that we're GonNa box but you after everything has to be below the neck And it's going to be our body punching not that you couldn't do some damage to somebody's kidney and otherwise but you know that's where it's going to be we're GONNA take the head out of the game. I mean. I think most people would say well. That's not boxing. And I'M NOT INTERESTED. so it's it's sort of a sort of a philly recommend suggestion But I think it's I want to believe that the fires really don't WanNa do ultimate damage to the to one another Because if they do ultimately that hurts the sport I think it might. It might gain the sport some attention in the short run but I think long term at not good if you had fighters who were getting maimed every every weekend no I agree and You know just those comments are stuff that sticks out but again. He's a fighter that says he wishes nothing but the best in you know these this how they feed their families last question before we get out of here. Hbo Real Sports is known for these pieces. Right there are known for doing the journalism that other people either will not do any more. If we're just being honest about the culture now or Don't care to do because of Click say monetary value. How important is it for you personally to still bring these stories and to go to these fighters homes and talk to the brothers the trainers to go to Ohio like you said he didn't talk to? The fighter was in the ring with him to really do these pieces at tell these stories how they should be told in a day and age. Where if we're being honest people's attention spans shorter than ever. Selfishly I will. I will never get tired of meeting. Different people from different walks of life in different pursuits different athletic endeavors and hear about their inner thoughts and their hopes and their dreams and their disappointments and their failures And celebrating their triumphs to to meet a Charles Conwell to understand where this young man comes from where he hopes to go. How the bumps that he has faced along the way and this is more than above For him but he's he's overcome it to meet a character like Joe Higgins. Who If if one day? Somebody made a movie about the Patrick's Day story or the Patrick Day. Enjoy hagans relationship. He even. If you were to dramatize it and it was a scripted featuring film in Hollywood I. I don't know that you'd even WanNa cast somebody. Other than Joe Higgins themselves so if if he could learn to act a little bit. You can't go to central casting and find a better character them and Joe Higgins so the opportunity again selfishly for me to meet these people and continue to tell these stories you know Real Sports. We are not a scorecard. We are not your your page of the newspaper. We're not telling you results and and top scores and leading You know the winners the losers. That's not what we're about. We are about going deeper than that. Where about interviewing people and hearing their stories and and I think that as you mentioned in this day and age it's still critical that we survived. And we keep our you. Some people might say gasping for our last breaths. 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Will Marco Fabian make the Union a contender? Sam Stejskal on Giovani dos Santos' future in LA

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Will Marco Fabian make the Union a contender? Sam Stejskal on Giovani dos Santos' future in LA

"The. You're listening extratime radio. So what are you guys gonna do? You gonna continue to be a bunch of soft underperforming tattooed millionaires. They said, oh, we're not perfection. Is that possible? We just wanna get the big decisions, right? Doing this doing greet will get hot everybody up here. Every single day goes into the office for the laboratory trying to cook up some great stuff you guys right answer was a goal types would be up. But that was that's why he's here. From New York New York. You are listening extra-time radio driven by continental. I am in the green room with David Goss, Bobby warshaw, one more Dan Kabo for Matt Doyle, although he will not get out of the group chat. Constant takes sim. Stay cials pushing him back Sam on today's show GAM Tam Sam it's been far too long. He has all the news wrapped up into a nice little package for you. Including Giovanni does Santos in his maybe new contract that new DP in Utah and everything else under the sun. We're going to talk to Greg Vanney about cell the final tin. Good minutes. Let's see what else Markle fob yon to Philadelphia union, which has eyebrows raised across MLS. But the big news here is that Jimmy Mauer's wife is stronger than all of us and is stronger than we will ever be. Because this is the craziest story of the week. I feel like or at least came out this week, Bobby you were talking about this before he came in and please sum this up for the people out there. As a person who respects human life and the delivery of human life in a way that I never thought I would before Jimmy wife is my new hero. She absolutely is. She was pregnant and she was at home early hours of the morning four or five am I believe something along those lines, and she goes into labor early? They weren't expecting it to come yet. They didn't have time to get to the hospital, and then they have time for an ambulance to get there. And the way Jimmy told the story soccer dot com was that his wife delivered the baby by herself reach down pulled the baby up was the first of the baby in her arms. All at our L, all at her home all without help. It was incredible gummy fired up applause applause, all the mothers up there. Remember, you got here because it's absolutely credible in Dave. I see your little bit. A little skeptical of our wonder in our own never thought the reaction to that story would be pumped up. So I was surprised to hear those where. It's come out. You didn't get fired up over that story fired up is just once again, we're term that I probably wouldn't use in inspired that that's fair on. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Bobby right now, it looks like he does after he just gets them playing pickup. And he's run you for like the last hour and a half with the high press, you know, in what was supposed to be a very casual game. All right. Let's get to the soccer. Let's talk Marco faubion. This is or would be if it gets done the biggest signing in Philadelphia union history. Correct or incorrect. Markle correct. It would be the biggest signing in MLS. I forgot we have the number one member. No. I don't think that's true. But I'm Bobby on Long Island than immigrated to New York City through little while Boston was in London spent some time Israel fan club fair. I'm definitely president of that fan. I love Mark on the guys magic. I thought it should have been in the last six years ago. Then I thought he should have been in the last five years ago four years ago as well three years ago, I was fee two years ago. One hundred percent and now this year as well failed a medical in Turkey's hankered for a while they're disputing that. Right. Fish, those reports are being disputed as you might imagine Marco forbidden in case, you don't know who that is you've been living under a rock twenty nine year old Mexico international played for a long time. She was HARA had a year Cruz Zule entre Frankfurt for the last couple years was killing it his first couple years of I two years or so scoring goals ranked as one of the best number tens in Germany was there with Carlos Saucedo made up this dynamic duo of L tree players. And then he had a back injury, and you had a herniated disk, and I think he had surgery for that. And as someone who's had minor back problems. I don't know how you play world class soccer with real back problems. And he just kind of dropped off the face. He's got one boondoggle. Parents he was on the Mexico squad for the World Cup. He made one appearance there, but was like a bit part player. But like you said this guy was magic in legal fees for L tree for a long time as well. For a while. Yeah. For sure sometime. Yeah. He he's I guess you could say true number Tang can strike from distance takes guys on v. One spreads the game around breaks teams down does all of those things kind of came through in generation behind GIO dos Santos and Carlos Vela and guys like that's it wasn't like the future of the national team at any point. And I think sort of broke into the national team late because of that. But was always the guy. Everyone was waiting for or fans of his were like why isn't he getting? A shot and then went over and played well in Germany for a little while. But then as you said the injuries the injuries are the big question Mark like if he's physically capable of playing a heavy amount of minutes if he's physically capable of playing in this league. And then the is the other one not a guy who's known for covering a ton of ground for playing a bunch defensively. And it comes down to is good enough offense to cover up all those issues defensive ill seen you Marco faubion on the same team. Well, professing to want to high press is just everything that I need this league. It's just like the dichotomy of it is it's beautiful. And I love it. Too woman. Kind of lead the reporting on this and things are driving forward. And seems like things will probably get done by. There's a big question about the salary being paid. And there's a big question about potential transfer fee. I would expect that transfer fee to be quite minimal given the amount of time. He's actually played for track. I think if if you're thinking from their perspective, you probably just want that salary off your books and if the union. I'm thinking year, maybe two years guarantee, but probably just a year and some team options. And if that's the case, then it's a good signing for them. How would he fit in what he fit? Well. That's a great question. Because if you think about his skill set and the way they reportedly wanna play in preseason they've done a four four two diamond with the new Sonnen Santos and co op top speed all over the field athleticism all over the field. And you think about what Marco fobbing offers? It is not that. But on the same time as you build a roster at some point you just need to acquire talent. At some point if somebody falls into your lap, you have to take them, right? And I don't have the answer to this. But there's definitely an argument to be made where you have to play to a style system. But at some point you need the best players available. And if this guy wants to play if you can get a player like Marco fob in you have to take it. And I'm really interested to see how they do mesh his talent into what's a very clear system that aren't standards trying to build Kenny work. Yeah. It can definitely work one. Because. Year one. They haven't really added that many pieces. I don't know that the dream system that earns Santer wants to play the gym curtains going to have to try and play out. There is going to be there in two thousand nineteen whether Marco far beyond on the team or not right. It takes a while to acquire the correct assets fit perfectly into a roster took Jason Kreis a little while to put together the perfect or the ideal version of his diamond molest, so it's hard to keep those teams together. So I don't know that it would look exactly like they wanted to anyway in twenty nineteen if he comes in healthy, which is the entire key and pulls the pieces at the point of that diamond has people covering ground behind him, but his able to use Pico's speed, and you Santos's finishing ability and play them through and set up for them that I don't see why wouldn't work it feels like. Sometimes teams MLS jump on trend five years later. And like, you're not sure and you're like, oh, wow. This is a good signing. But is this a twenty twelve MLS signing? I'm not sure if this is one of love when they do that they wanna player the prices too high. They're saying we're willing to play this price three years later the price gets to that. And I'm like, yeah. We want that player, but it's not the same player than they signed him and expect the same player for the price that they paid it almost never works out. We'll see if that's what was Mark in. It could be really exciting. But yeah, there's some there's some mix and match. They're definitely feels like one of those things where we'll be talking in five years and be like, oh, right. Markle far beyond was on the Philadelphia union, Fremont. But I will super enjoy those three months over. The union right now they fall in the same category. As basically every team, which is I can convince myself that they can be a playoff team. This is the theme of the offseason it's the theme of every single off season. But I look at them. And I'm like, the only place where I don't think they have depth is maybe those quote, unquote, Schuttler positions in midfield. But if you're gonna look holistically at the union right now, I get a little bit excited because I see a team that's probably gonna start Derek Jones. I mean knock on wood. I hope they start Derek Jones because I don't know who else they start in the shutting positions other than him or Warren crawl moon in your number six, which if you wanna play high press, I mean, he's not going to be the one that does the press for you. Maybe he can guide it, maybe he can be the brains, but Doria Markle fob yon fingers crossed Sergio Santos David calm in VP of last season people PICO seizure Sapone. Cory Burke, the kid from Kaiserslautern who plays up top. They have. They actually have a pretty good depth chart if they get. How much does that jump their ceiling? We've talked a lot about ceilings would that significantly raise? It. It feels like you're asking the question every play you named is in the sixty to eighty percent percentile of Major League Soccer. Now, they're good players. They're not stars. It feels like the question you're asking is. Can you win molest without stars? I'm asking is this team basically last year's team with a different style. Man. You're swapping worked for Marco fob yon. Or is there something greater that they can aspire to and attain given the targeted moves? They've made this off season. Let's call them the new leadership in the front office. A new idea of how to play and perhaps an L tree international who could come in. And be a difference maker in the league. I don't think you'd be like a top five number ten. He could be the fan club over here is all but he's probably more likely kind of in the middle. Where's Darwin contarary on that? I would say during concerto right now if I had bad between the two going darling control over Michael. Just because he top five. Yes, he has stopped. So you stuck someone who's around the ten Marc Albert Reuss neck. Okay. So Marco faubion that's the line on Albert Reuss net. I think he can be as good as Reuss knacker better this year in Major League Soccer. I don't know that that means Philadelphia unit will be better than they were last year, mainly because we talk about this whole thing. I don't see how Mukundan fits into it. And so I think there's going to be an issue if you tell me that the individual players the young guys each take step up, then I would understand that this team gets better have awesome trust the and Mark McKenzie. Are better Matthew riyal is better Dr Jones as an individual obviously gives you a difference this year, but that's still going to be my question. Mark about the union going through the first few months of the season. Feels like the obvious answer is the right answer here that a fit healthy Mark of undoubtedly raises their ceiling. But like anything else, potentially raises your ceiling? There's also a ton of risk with it. And there can be a bottom that falls out but Andrew question. Yes. If this. Dude fits into the system and his healthy. I don't know how you can make an argument that he doesn't raise their overall ability momentum's seems to be shifting towards this deal getting done then it comes down to this. What's the contract? What's the commitment? That's what changes it from potentially low risk high reward to medium risk or even high risk if you overpay. But if you can get him for minimal fee or no fee just to get that salary off the books that track and you can get him for one year guaranteed, and it's just a flyer that goes back to what you were talking about Dave, which is you don't yet have all the pieces to be who you wanna be. But you have to be competitive. So maybe it helps you be that or maybe even a little more. And who knows maybe Marco fob Janas, the Markle faubion that you fell in love with. We'll see what happens with the union. What does that mean? Think for a one zero six zero MLS station coming up with all the news run MLS, including Giovanni Santos, a number ten who we will not rank at this time. Talk Whitecaps real quick brand. Ruis is he a two thousand twelve era signing there. Oh, yeah. The rumors are going out the brand Ruis from Costa Rica from sporting from. Santos from twenty back in the day all full and all over the place Brumer to be considering Vancouver. Or maybe going back to Costa Rica with the Wednesday or Fredy Montero could return as well. Mark does Santos was on ESPN radio. Yesterday hinting about it saying that he likes, Freddie. It is possible he is under contract sporting. But there's just six months left in Freddie, says, hey, look, I'm leaving. I'm not staying in Portugal, and they have his rights. I believe. Which one would be better for the Whitecaps bran Ruis, Montero's younger tarot. I think raises thirty four now and he did not score for Santoro's. It seemed like he was decent before for Fulham. But yeah, there's some risk there. Who would you take? If you're Marco Santos. You could pick one of the two who would you get? They don't have a forward. So that might make it easy. Yeah. So if you look at their depth chart right now. And you think about what their team might look like if they're starting lineup right now, it would probably be if we're going to assume four to three one or maybe three midfielders in two strikers, it would be some combination of fully bay the new signing. John Theresa pronunciation on that. Larussa reset. I think Spain he would be your d- meta believe fleet pay. We're playing either in front or next to correct? The new Korean signing longing. Boom. Yup. Hopefully, I got that one right? On the right side. Probably Lucas Benito the Brazilian on the left side, probably already Raina. So they have a lot of those spots filled. But one thing I lose to last week. And I had a couple people. Disagree with on Twitter was he's Medina's place on why see and the idea of bringing in these potential DP big players and accepting that they're not your main person that maybe it's okay now to bring in Brian Ruiz and make him your second or third option at one of these spots. But yes, they have no center strikers on the roster. So the answer has to be Fredy Montero, doesn't it three years younger? He's already played in this league and been successful. I don't question that. Brian REEs is good enough. You just thirty four like what are you getting are you gonna get one full season? Maybe I don't think you're gonna get two or three great years from guy like that cheap enough to right? So yeah, this definitely feels like a twenty Marta Santos says one of the strikers that they'll going to bring in this window has experience that would seem to hint toward a guy like Fredy Montero. The other strike will be a new face. We'll see what happens there speaking old faces Jesse Marsch rumors zoos. He's going to be the head coach rebel Salisbury. Next year current head coach Markle rose has not lost in any competition at all next year during the season. He's in the menu condo. He's probably the thirteenth guy in that condo the assumption being the Markle Rosa's going to move on. And the Jesse Marsh. We'll get that position some more rebels news there may be going to sign an eighteen year old. Danish kid you're gone for. He's a striker. Rumors two million dollars or two million euros, whatever you want to believe Chris Armas to say hold on hold on. We're seeing if it's a good fit. What does this represent to you? If they make the signing. Dave. Is it trying to fill in kademi whole is it. I think it's this acknowledgement that we can that we're good at developing players, and we can sign players at a decent number develop them better and sell them at a higher number. I think that's what it means. And I've seen a lot with red bulls two of them bringing in youth internationals from Central America on loan sometimes with an option to buy and say, let's see how he fits if we can develop this guy will buy him. But a lot of that is asset building. It's not just building your first seem it's building out your club to fund everything else. And because clearly I think you're starting to build a reputation that you can build players and people will buy young players off of you. So trying to continue that you mentioned it. I think on the Lascaux which I thought was good as other people outside of MLS. See red bull New York as an ability to get into rebel Leipzig or get into red bull Salzburg both of which are Champions League teams Leipzig, obviously Bundesliga the bigger team. So that's I think another thing is. Red bull family seeing New York red bull as a piece for that. And if your New York red bull that's fine one because you're going to get money for it to build out, your kademi structure to build out all of those things that money that you have to use outside of the signing. And then the second thing is you get a good player for however long it is. So that's what I see from this one these young kid Danish. Nineteen international got a couple of goals for the first team which about four hundred minutes this year scored in the first two games. They seem excited he trained Bruce go I black no contract offer there as to what happens with this one. I mean that umbrella side look who's gone to Manchester City out of Imola. I mean, if you say Jack Harrison would be the example of kind of moving up within the organization, you can call that signing by man city, whatever you want because he's never gonna play on their first team. But now Zac Stephan is made that move. I mean, I think there's a realization that if you get under some of these umbrellas you have an opportunity to move up even if that move isn't necessarily to that first team, but an opportunity to get into a bigger a bigger market. Let's say in Europe. What do you think Bobby about a? Scandinavian player at this level making this decision rather than thinking you could be seen by European teams while still playing in Europe. That's a really a question. David. I was surprised by it. I don't blowed and say that I have a strong opinion. I mean, we've seen throughout the last three years. These new trends coming into molest. So I'm surprised by its when we haven't seen before. But also, I'm not surprised by the surprise if that makes that right? Can I ask him what pointed question to you? When you were in those leagues and in that environment. Did were guys thinking vis this league is my to get seen by somebody else guys. Like, did you know that you had scouts? Let's say from the boondocks Lita and from I don't know E bigger. Yeah. Bigger leagues looking at you. They're feeling that. This was a great jumping off point. Or could there be a possibility that some of these players are now saying, actually, maybe Imma less might be an even better jumping off point for me? Everyone in Scandinavia wanted to get 'em less, right? Every player wants to get to Barcelona. We've talked about that before. But at some point you realize you're not going to Barcelona. I knew no longer trying to climb that ladder. And when I was there three or four years ago before less was true, this launching pad to actually still get to Barcelona. It was a destination. It was I'm twenty five. I'm twenty six I actually don't want to climb the ladder me, you know, through the Dutch league through the Turkish leagues I'd rather go to molest. But this is the first time I've seen someone who has so the potential or at least the dream get to Barcelona and come here. Does that distinction? Make sense. Yeah. It's always been. It's always been even you know in two thousand thirteen to four trend two years ago. Right when everyone from Moldova or whatever son all those guys were twenty-seven up scall- Vic and Magnus Eriksson. All those guys they're not using molest to jump off to a Champions League team. No, it's a destination. They decided they would rather. I mean here we don't understand. I don't we make a lot of jokes about mama. Oh, and and Roosenburg and Copenhagen those are giant clubs with giant fan bases who compete near paean competition. That's no joke. So for them to choose that they would come to Major League Soccer over Lewis. A major statement. I can guarantee you every single one of their teammates was jealous. Every single one of those team age as regularly. What it was like over here. Another unconventional. This one actually got done. The Jorgensen one is not done, by the way. So stay tuned to that also small little piece it could also help them win. It's an attacking player they need more goals in that team. I think they're going to be better with below coming back and as a court as that piece where will meal was playing, but they need a backup center forward. And they need a guy who can play maybe with BWI at times he is paste the kid is supposedly these more of like inbet- im- behind player than he is necessarily like big hold up. Yada, yada. It feels a bit like an admission that they need something else. Right. Didn't it feel like Chris Armas? Jesse Morris were saying we believe in Alex, we believe in bringing these players through their functional in the press we understand their limitations creatively. And in the final third. But we believe in the system doesn't this feel like a little bit of admission to say, okay. Maybe there's actually limitations to the system, and we need more attacking talent in those spots. Is there also an admission maybe admissions the wrong word that by bringing in a young guy who you don't expect to be the guy right now that maybe in the next two years old. So you hold onto him that beat up UP can be a good influence. And get a spell from him every now and then to keep his leg fresh. And then maybe this kid is the guy at some point. Maybe if you spend two million dollars on eighteen year old kind of feel like you're implying that he could be that down the line. I don't think. So I think they're spending that money to push forward later. I sort of agree with you, Bobby. But I think the bigger one is depth. I think that they read books have had the eleven to thirteen they wanted over the last three four years and every year they have an injury where Royer two years ago last year is below embezzle core and every year they're like, well if we didn't have that injury. And I think they're starting to realize you need to build a deeper team to be able to overcome that. Because you can't you're not gonna have all eleven guys healthy, it's just never going to happen. And speaking to that depth, David for years, redwoods, got that depth of the academy. And I think one of the undertones here is that red was aren't as confident about the players coming through their kademi this moment, we saw them get a ton of draft picks. Will why do you get those draft picks because that replaces the players could have potentially been homegrown. So we had considered red bulls. When he lied. Ademi's? And for whatever reason they actually do not have players come through the pipeline that they had three or four years ago, and they're trying to compensate for that little bit of a blind spot here, maybe center forward, unique signing sporting KC made out of Rwanda, I believe and I could be wrong. It's certainly the only Rwandan animal us right now. But I think all time Abdul guate- by centreback twenty two year old. He's one I'd like four championships in Rwanda. He's played with the national team. He's played African Champions League. He will be fourth on the depth chart. This feels like a move necessitated, obviously by the ICA par trade, but it's a flyer, and according to Peter Vermes, it comes from the same scout that identified Latif blessing who was the top score in the Ghana league. At the time. He was signed that worked out very very, well, we'll see what happens with Abdul Gua to buy. This is the worst news of the podcast right here. We're gonna hit it before we go to break. So we don't get too depressed, Milton Valenzuela what a what a great young leftback years. Toys ACL is out for the year. Columbus Crew went out and sent fifty K Engand Seattle Sounders for a guy, they know very very well, Waylon Francis Costa Rican left-back who will come in. And it appears fill that hole. He was with the crew from fourteen to seventeen twenty fifteen in all star that they made the run to molest Cup. This is the sort of news that I hate during preseason young promising talented player who showed he is if not the one of the top five players position in the league guy that you can pitch sell on down the road ambassador from us could still be, but we will not see him this year, Milton. Valenzuela suffered a knee injury and training. He is reportedly out for the year. Some other quick news before we go to break here. Florentine Bagua that one's done Eleni United signs him centreback in Paul pod was older, brother. We'll see how that works out for them. If he's just depth. Maybe he's cover for L G P if he gets moved. I don't know. We'll see and one thing to add on that Andrew is that United. If you're not. Atlanta fan. You're haven't been keeping close tabs. They have been playing three centre backs out preseason miles Robinson third year out of Syracuse has been starting in the central role. Cursed has been on the right side. So Atlanta knighted has been playing with three centrebacks lately. So he would be the fourth one on their roster after the three and Lorenzo compla- there. But just make sure info veto Minoan. Who remembers that I have a friend who looks exactly? Yeah. Walked into a bar one time in a hit me. And I was like veto minone Daza finds thing. A thing if you know. You are plugged the hersher. He's been at reading. He is now apparently, right? This moment. According to Minnesota United fans who are tracking his flight from England on his way to the twin cities. And we'll be there on loan for the season as a just barely Tam goalkeeper reading fans in all the chat rooms or saying, good riddance. He wasn't that. Good. Russell. Well, we'll see. What happens? We'll see what happens. Donate another English one. It looks like Giles Phillips young centreback from QBR's been sent on loan to the New England Revolution interesting. Yeah. So they lost della deal. Yeah. God, I was going to element. That's the key for the rubs. We'll see what happens, but hey wound as scoring bangers in the preseason. So that's good sign. We're going to break on the other side gammit Sam. You're encouraged to Email extra time at MLS soccer dot com, or tweet at extratime radio with any comments questions oriented gyms. Sms? Back-nine extratime radio driven by continental going back to Boston. I was that had to do that any good better than me. The worst. Give me Devon. I've lived in Boston for four days, and that was terrible. Same stace cool here in fairness Sam a character actor, so your sweet spot is your impersonations. School on Twitter, Adam Asaka dot com. Breaking all the news is now a bus Stony, and he will acquire that accent in good time. Sam how's it going? You feeling? How is Boston man? It's good. I was actually born here. As a matter of fact, so returning to my roots. I guess. Good. How are you doing? We're doing good. So when you got back to Boston was it like when Simba returns and like everything's on fire, but you clear the flames you defeat scar. And then everything becomes refreshed again. Yes. Exactly. Who's your RIC? Sandwich day me. Yeah. Gosh. Okay. Good gossip stuff seeking didn't wanna I didn't wanna blow up your spot for sure. All right. Let's go to let's go to the news. And let's start with something. You just put out their soccer dot com. Spot for this one Giovanni to Santos. There is a way for the E galaxy to have. Should I do? I say forty p Sam they wouldn't technically have forty Ps. What's the solution here for Giovanni to send us what's on the table right now? Yes. So basically the galaxy are trying to bring him back on Tam deal which would involve him taking a massive massive pay-cut in twenty nine thousand nine he's six million the past few years scheduled to be there. Again, this year, I believe in Tam as probably a lot of listeners know, the maximum can make NBA Templar is one and a half. So we're looking at least four and a half million dollars in terms of a pay cut that here in the galaxy would compensate GIO for that by adding on years in terms of in terms of contract. The wrinkle is MLS rule started getting away with it. So if they do make a million and a half, then it has to be option years guarant- not guaranteed years or else he would count as a DP unless he gets a Ray if he gets a raise in the following extension years. So if he's at a million and a half. Year after year. Then then you're all good. If he's in a million a half, and then you bump them up to well that year would have to be an option year for the two million. So there's a lot of things play here. I yo- has two sets it as well. So that that's the biggest hurdle to get over. But then you know, their league rules apply as well league approval. So there's a long way to go from what I understand. But yeah, definitely an interesting one for the galaxy is they look to get down from four designated players to three if you're juvenile descent of Sam, why would you accept this deal? If you have six million dollars come to you this year. Why would you extend lock in more years for the same amount of money? You're making already is there a scenario here where they do this. And then they just by him out after this year and give him the rest anyway, just to get through the year. Like, I'm struggling from the Giovanni though sent though side unless I wanna play. Would raise a lot of holy hell around the league. In terms of what you're allowed to do with UPS and not. And I imagine a lot of teams to be very upset fed end up being the case. But I mean from what I understand he likes living in Los Angeles. So that's certainly a factor. The other factor in this is that there's not much of a market out there for him right now. So you know, he's not gonna go out and get six million dollars next next season after he's out a contract. And I think he knows that at this point. Maybe he can get two or three if he has a really really good season this year, but he could kind of lock it in long-term. If he does it three or four year contract that's through his age thirty two thirty three seasons. So, you know, you're getting the same amount of money if you do one and a half for four years as in terms of six for one year, so that's not super attractive from his standpoint. But if he likes living in Los Angeles, and he's not overly concerned with his financial situation than you know, maybe you do this. So so we'll see I mean, the one thing with this is Jonathan DOE Santos have been pretty vocal about Geos gonna be back with the galaxy. He wants to be back with the galaxy likes living in Los Angeles. He wants to be in Los Angeles. So we'll see, but I would imagine he's at least open to it given all. His comments from his brother six million day point five million Alexandru retreat in y CFC making a big splash. That's a third biggest transfer feet and MLS history. Sam stace goal with the numbers. I hear doing work. Why so much Sam for a player who's about to turn twenty four? I mean, the the twin four thing I wouldn't worry too much about, you know, obviously, if see believing him obviously believes in him, but you know, city football group is a big factor here. Right. So eight and a half million for your regular analyst team that isn't owned by global conglomerate that's really a a lot of money, but for city football for used to paying transfer fees of several times, eight and a half million with Manchester City and some of their other clubs. That's not as big of a deal. Right. And the other part of this is is they have that's cutting infrastructure. They have that network in in Europe through CF g so I imagine they have some sorts of plans in store for matriochka here. For the future. But you know, for in west CFC, it's going to be interesting. Right. WD is gone Yang. Rare is gone. Those are arguably the two best players although both miss some time last season. So, you know, big big shoes. I'm not sure whether or not he's going to be able to one of the things I heard from from around the league was that, you know, kind of a raised eyebrow from several different executives about spending that much player on a player spending money on a player from the Romanian league. So we'll see a lot is going to be on him though. A lot of pressure gonna be on him to live up to that big big fee. Another name, we're not that familiar with Sam Sam Johnson for real Salt Lake. Well, we're familiar with the name we love SIMS here. I don't know about that. Okay. Sam. I'm not. What do you know about him? How is he supposed to this team? We hear to DP what type of number. We looking at. Yes, I reported this yesterday on Wednesday. But basically, this is a good example of not altarpiece being created equal right matriochka, eight and a half million dollar fee. Samuel johnson. He's an eight hundred fifty thousand dollar transfer fee. Ten percent. So that's a huge difference in his salary is only going to be about six fifty. So he's the guy that will be able to be bought down with Tam without much of an issue are so wanna go out and sign another EP here in the summertime would be probably most likely for that. You know in terms of what he is player. He had a decent goal record Avella Ranga in Norway, anything overly dramatic. He's got set a decent goal record throughout his career. Pretty young players. I believe he's twenty five I'm remembering that correctly. But I don't think our seller coming in in expecting him to be like twenty goal guy. You know, I think they're looking for more ten to twelve out of him get some consistency out of that position, which they really struggled with over the last couple of years with your sin, and then I'll fry or two and the guy who can fit their system where card and just be a consistent presence in their score. Ten to twelve is kind of what they're what they're thinking. And then, you know, have Elbert Rusznak Demere cry lockjaw plot gel, plots Corey fair, Jefferson, Severino a bunch of a bunch of those other options, contributing the attack as well, Sebastian Giovinco, what a legend. He is what a privilege it's been for us to watch him when he came. I remember the magnitude of that. News while he's gone and everything after his departure from Toronto see was basically a message of their fan base. Sam saying look just because you're gone. Does. It mean that we're gonna sit on our hands. There are more moves coming. They signed Terrence Boyd. We know. That's not a replacement for Giovinco more like a replacement for two Ricketts. So now, what is something coming? I mean, I think so they're working towards that certainly whether or not they get done is a different question. But they're definitely trying to get a designated player across the line as soon as possible. I know they're they're kind of in talks. Now, I'm not sure with who or where. But I know they're looking, and I know they're looking to spend pretty big both in terms of transfer fee and steadily. So I wouldn't be shocked to see something in the neighborhood of like ten million dollar transfer fee. Maybe and then maybe, you know, a total spend over the life of the contract of maybe anywhere from fifteen to twenty or even twenty five million includes salary over the over the life of the deal. So so it's going to be a significant move for. Toronto the the questions are who and win. But they are definitely trying to get this thing done before this season. And ideally before they start Champions League. There's been rumbling Sam that the kind of the the strategy behind Tron of see the thrust is spending is going to change when you start saying things like up to even if it's like, even if it's seven even if it's fifteen million all in that is still a huge deal in MLS terms is that maybe a little overblown. This theory that Toronto you're gonna stop spending. It'd be more of a reality right in a recalibration in terms of their strategy. Right. So before with Vinko, and Bradley and all door. I know Bradley was a pretty significant transfer fee, but you've been going out to eat or less out and really they focused their spend on the salaries they're all of those guys were making and are making in the case of Bradley, outdoor really significant money. I believe the lowest is five million per year. So I think what you'll see from Toronto is maybe go maybe a little bit younger. A little bit maybe not overly but a little bit younger. And in terms of target spent a little bit more on the transfer and maybe a little bit less. Valerie. But your overall spend I don't think it's going to change too much for TSE timbers DP's. The swung admits dependent on Ponce Enki Yoenis. But now you reporting the Rafter someone of a higher profile. Yes. So higher profile in terms of kind of name recognition, again, not sure who on the name here. But, but I've been told that you know, it's kind of a more established player. So where can you donate Simone Sayer, both younger options this guy when be more of, you know, twenty seven twenty eight more in his prime more established in terms of what he's done in his career. Maybe a little bit of a bigger name as well. Depending on who. And where you're watching soccer around the world. But yeah, I mean, I think that's kind of Portland if they get this deal done. I think it's kind of Portland saying, hey Diego. Larry Diego chara, you know, they're getting a little bit older. But we still feel like this window was open, and we wanna make another. A really really big run at it. So that's kind of thinking as far as I know in Portland. So we'll see if they get it done. But that would be a big spent for them to probably the biggest from what I've told one of the bigger ones in their history. If not the biggest September's fans should be on the lookout here over the next week or so if they're able to get that deal across one Twitter station. Also, of course, it must suck dot com. Where so much work lives. He's killing it on the beat in the transfer windows always crazy times you are. I don't know why I didn't throw that out there. I've lost my lost my you invented bird dog. And then we now as hipsters have made a cool, and you don't even know why it's cool that is. That is. Five years. I'll try to drop it. And you just roll your eyes at me. But then it'll be cool because you'll be there rigid, and they'll be this history lesson thing by that time, I'll have gotten a sleeve tattoos leave and just wear beanies and all weather, okay. Before we let you go Sam and do away from that tangent. You are having lots of conversations that don't see the light of day, you're talking to GM's and all sorts of environments about all sorts of different things when you're on the show telling me about these numbers and talking about the biggest deals in club history. I come back to theme that I've been on for years, which is win are the GM sporting directors directors of this league going to be under more pressure have more attention paid and have higher stakes. And it seems like that time is now are are the are the the sands shifting a little bit here retains the front offices. What have you seen? What have you observed one hundred percent? I think they have been shifting. But I think it's really crystallized a little bit this winter and really over the last week for me kind of the biggest one that that is been public is the Lucho Mukasa one, right? Look at that saga. Just how crazy it seems. Right. And and that's sort of the wild worlds of transfer sagas in Europe in South America that in some cases, I don't wanna say all because of may big deals before. But in some cases, you know, Emily GM's operating in a more. I don't wanna say closed, but an a league that hasn't been as integrated in the global market. They've been a little insulated from that. And that's not happening anymore. Both in terms of the players that are coming into the and now increasingly so in terms of the players that are leaving the league and being sold. So forget is that have been MLS for their whole careers. It's gonna be interesting to see how those executives adapt because it's going to be really really important, you know, especially for clubs that are going to lean on that transfer revenue to to help fund their academy your help fund new signings, or whatever it may be, you know, it's going to be really important to get those deals right in a lot of these guys are going to be doing it for the very first time at least on a huge scale. So going to be interesting to see how that plays out over the next months and years. Really? All right, go pick up some Tim's Sam what else does he need for his Boston survival kit here north face puffy, north face puffy. What else obvious? Patriots at this. Go Saux, go Saux. Maybe you get your b I already have been have been yelled at for wearing a Cup set, by the way. And I was like why would why would Red Sox fans? This have you been to pizzeria Regina yet? No best pizza into world. Said no one you've got business. You've got to check list here. Sam they gotta get a north face coat. I guess all right. Even. Always good to chat with Sam. We're gonna go to ten minutes with Greg Vanney, talking fever. We'll see on the other side of the break. All right ten. Good minutes with Greg Vanney, Greg. We won't talk C L U and Jason Kreis have gone farther than anyone else. But in this new format, you're the man moments away from winning it. Why is this so tough take us into for people who've never experienced it? What means for animals club? Well, thank you know, we've heard over the years, but it it's the timing of it is part of it. We're coming into what was a shortened preseason after a layoff. And for us. We had played two years till the very end. But and see in general seal in general we start right off the bat. So you're asked to be knockout form, you know, four weeks into into your preseason and the intensity of of a knockout environment is is very high. And so the guys have to be at speed quickly. You have to be you know, in a knockout forum. You're one mistake a change the entire the tire two legs and the outcome. So I think it just it's demanding from physical perspective. It's Dan demanding from an emotional perspective right at the start of of a season. And having said that the path that we went through happen to involve, you know, an MLS club, which is never easy two of the best or three of the best two Mexican clubs that have ever been in Mexico. So. We we also had a high intensity then you add in the travel down to Mexico and back the altitude. There's there's a number of just variables that come into play. While that's going on. You're still you wanna keep an eye on your league season that starting at the same time for us. It's just it's managing a lot of new variables that that are at play that you don't normally have to when you're when you're just worrying about MLS and MLS does a great job of sort of slow rolling the entrance into a season. You give a game every week for probably the first four or five weeks. And then they start to add volume. Well, see the blows all that out of the water. And so that's that's where it becomes very challenging. I think to from scheduling, and and just the dynamics of everything talk about the strain. How much seal just undeniably makes it harder molest. And if that's the case how much do you have to factor that in in how seriously you take C O because perhaps you have to sacrifice MLS down the line? Yeah. I think there's a balance, and you know for us. We obviously coming out of it. We didn't find the balance in it. We were all in for the Seattle for the championship. We poured every minute every resource everybody into trying to win the championship. You know? And within that, we probably sacrificed a couple of games of in the league during that process. And also trying to do that we ended up losing a lot of guys and injury. So there's probably a better balance that we need to strike we need to. It's also probably unique that we played against three Mexican league teams, bang, bang, bang and three of the best that have been. And so it was there wasn't really an opportunity for us and see sale to maybe put out a mixed group and still get a road result. And then come home and pour it onto try to to win. It we playing the competition we played if we were going to stay in the tournament. We had to play our best group every single time to try to just to try to get the result. And so, but there's you gotta. Balance because our teams MLS or not so deep that you can put out to teams, you know, you see that in Europe. Sometimes they'll mix a team for league in mixed team bit for Seattle. And we just don't have when you're playing top top level opponents, and you don't have the ability. We don't have the depth and our teams to to mix quite as much as maybe you'd like to when you're playing that kind of all your early in the season. How uncomfortable is it because you go to the same Melih stadiums. Every week you work with Melissa officials work with us referees that starts to become familiar. How uncomfortable is just working with Concha calf in traveling to new stadiums. And we hear stories about notorious paper locker rooms and all that stuff. Yeah. It's. In terms of for our guys. I think there was was exciting. You know, that was something different. They had you know to their credit into the credit of the team the club and everybody they had accomplished a lot the year prior. So this was it was almost a feel of the extension of two thousand seventeen here is a new challenge very similar group. So going to these new stadiums like as Teke one of the great stadiums of our hemisphere, and they're there and guys are kind of taking that all in. So and then, you know, playing in the volcano down there, it just like it was exciting for guys they were taking it in. And I think it breed it some of the emotion that that we gave back to the tournament that eventually became expensive to us. But it was it was exciting. I it's different. You know, obviously, we we have like team of people who are trying to to you know, in some ways rally Concha calf to try to make help us make decisions that makes sense for us. Not just the opposition. Right. And I can tell you the Mexican clubs have their guys who are pushing Concha. Try to make decisions in the game that or not in the game. But around the game that are beneficial for them watering the field. There's a battle for they don't want the feels water. We want the field watered and fast. And it's like there's these ongoing little jockeying of position the whole way. Like it's a game out outside of the game. And there's a game inside the game. And that's very different than than MLS. Well, there's always these little variables saying that you're that. You're you're trying to you're trying to take into consideration and push your favorite to give yourself the best opportunity through this the event as a coach he's trying to keep noise out from your team and keep them focus was it harder for C L with different media as you said all this other stuff going on. Yeah. I think again, I think our group is really focused, and we did we did go to for example, when we went down to to Mexico City. We went off up into a different part of. Mexico City away from everybody else we're actually up, but you go we train their away from media way from everybody else. So we isolated our guys a lot of times, and we would go down four or five days in advance to prepare for a match. And so our guys were focused, but we also were able to isolate them away from things. So really the media stuff came in the day before. And I what I would say it wasn't. So extreme that it was different. We put some parameters around again, a lot of our guys are experienced not young guys they've been through this in their own ways. And so they they handled it handled it, well, they could deal with it. But I think that club in of itself did a fantastic job of creating environments where we could train him prepare away from. What felt like, you know, you're in the mix already. I will have to say real quick. I was in Guadalajara eating dinner watching you guys walk into your hotel off the bus on Luke for two hours on television. Never seen that one in MLS. I have the question. I think everyone wants to know do you play. Bingo. Do I see our bingo board? Obviously, I don't know we have like things that always happen. That are absurd. Okay. Together about twenty five of them. Yes. And build a bingo board, I think one is through this coach is wearing the same color as their team. So they had to put a penny on which happens pretty consistently. So if you wanna help everyone out and can wear a red suit, and they'll put a penny on when your team wears, right? That's interesting. Yeah. That's pretty funny. I hadn't seen it at politics. But that's really funny. What's your advice? Have other coaches this year reached out to you about it that are entering its Peter Vermes? It's Wilmer Cabrera. What's your advice? Timeless teams about trying to go far in this. I think it's a club the club decision. I mean, if you think you have the kind of team that can win it, then I think it has to be in consideration. I think if you don't feel like your group is quite ready yet. Then I think you have to be smart about how you go about it. But I think it's no matter what it's it's something that all of us. You know, I would speak fairly coaches. Everybody wants to be the first team the win it. Right. And so it is I think we all I for one will go in setting our team up to try to win it having said that and the experience that we had try to do that in a in a smarter way. Hopefully, are we've seen our draw. It's a little different than it was last year in a smarter way. Now based on what we have in front of us. I think last year if we wanted to win it we we had to do what we did this year will try to find a right balance. And while keeping an a much broader focus and making sure that we don't sacrifice anything league wise while we try to and but it's. It's a interest of us. I mean, we're at a club in our standpoint in our roster where everything we play we want to try to win. And that's just that's where we are. It's the mindset of our group. I think to keep them. There is important. So that that'll be our focus. But I think it's it's early in the year. So you gotta be really smart about how much you sacrifice in the process of trying to get there. Because I do think there are sacrifices. If you wanna win it. What's the moment from the twenty eight run that's stands out to you that sticks with you. Whether it's in a game or around a game from from the experience. I think when we were down in t- griss, and we were doing a good job of staying pretty stable and solid. And we broke out in the transition and got the the second goal that really means they had to score three or four goals to come back. We knew we were getting out of Teague wrists with a with to the next round. And that and that for me because that matchup was they were very good team in that matchup was build. You know, the two best teams in Kafka, you know, playing each other that stadium is incredibly loud when we were in Mexico. The I understand Spanish pretty well group in the southwest while I was watching a lot of the TV shows before and there wasn't one word of us possibly winning and getting through that series for twenty four hours leading up to the game. They talked about all the other games. And it was a foregone conclusion that we were going to be out. So we got that goal. I knew we had stunned Mexico. It's done a lot of people. What was? Disappointed that we didn't hold on. And actually win the game. That would have been that would have been even better moment. But at that point, I knew we shouldn't be giving three or four goals to to lose this one. So that was that was a special moment for us. I think in new also gave us the belief that we could go on and win when this thing last one for you face off against the big people to ready, of course in that game. But then the next one was peo-, and he went into the media and wasn't super positive about Tf. See what was the experience about facing off against those guys? And I'm sure that gave your smile in Tigray. What was it like realizing he would put away club America? The same. It was refreshing. And again, it's a it was a statement of sorts for for all of us that series was chaotic you know, from the our first home game. I still think in and I saw this preseason we played Tijuana in preseason. And you know, we beat them one zero and they laughed off the field. And like like, these guys are clowns. You know, still kind of the emotion that you get down there sometimes from. And the respect that we don't get still sometimes from some of those clubs, and so everyone every one of those teams that we'd be in many of them we'd be on their own turf. Made a new statement for where Melissa's at made statement for specific. Specifically where our club was at. And every one of them wanted to discount us along the way, and and we were able to come through and the end they you know, the pundits. And everybody was saying this is a very good team capable of winning, you know, in in Mexico. They're capable of winning these different places. So from a stamp one of our team in the feeling it was it was great because we knew these teams didn't respect us the way we felt we should be respected, and we were able to earn that through the process of playing on the field. And that's where you where you wanna earn? It not in the not in the talk and not in the in the run-up or anything like that. And so and I thought from him specifically I thought he created a lot of distraction around the game to try to take away from the fact that we were beating them on the field and that was his strategy. It was an in the end it didn't really work. So you're gonna ask them about those. Guys. But not what it was like when he saw Mehta recently. Yeah. Was like when you saw him in the hotel. Friendly. You know, we didn't get into a long discussion or anything like that. I'm not sure his English for my Spanish crossover, quite that. Well, but it was it's friendly. I'm actually I'm excited that he's in the league because he's got a very clear vision and style, and I think all anything coaches that come in that have a real clear vision in style for what they want to do add something unique to our league. And he and if he continues to do what he did when he was at Chiba. So I don't know what his plan is. But if he does then we're all going to encounter. Now, this very unique style in our league and have to adapt to what that is. You know to essentially man us all over the field. We had to create numer little numerical advantage is on the field to try to draw them off guys, and it became a really interesting tactical match. And so if he implies something like that again, it just it just means that we all have to prepare for something different in this league has so many different variations of what guys are starting. Or what teams and clubs are starting to do now that it's it's his own challenge. And so that's I think that's interesting for. Our league run in two thousand eighteen we hope a host of MLS teams better run in two thousand nineteen hopefully next year. We'll do twenty five good minutes on the first ever CO win for Toronto. But Greg Vanney, thanks for joining us. I appreciate it goes. You're encouraged to Email extra time at MLS soccer dot com for tweet at extratime radio with any comments questions oriented. Sms? Coloring? Riven? The mail back four zero one two zero six zero MLS please text us at that number or you can Email us extra time and Ila soccer dot com. We'll get to the mail real quick. But been bear is here. We've delayed him for. I don't know. Couple upsets here because Christopher Sega's basically wrecked his life. And he was just kind of a bitter person that I didn't really actually that record entire meeting and the tire day and multiple days. Actually what I was. I did appreciate that. Ben texted me that he could hear on ETR when the trade. So last lesser is episode when you're in the mail bag and your hair say, oh, no. And he doesn't say anything resident facilities. Basically is completely worthless. The rest of the time. So I appreciate that before we move on quick guarantee from you which. Immolates club and CCOO will go the farthest Atlanta dirt is there's been bearing t it is a landing heart for the red bulls guy. Bill carroll. Red bull section one thirty two Email. Dan, said I'm sure you guys heard the news as we mentioned on Lascaux Darrell Darrell grove, he's he announced that he was sick on total soccer. He said go onto their January January thirty th show. It's the bravest announcement of a life changing illness you'll ever hear anyone can beat this. I think it's someone as Darryl. We mentioned on the lash has go fund me set up to try and raise some money something thousand dollars. Can I say, I mean, can I decide round of applause this little soccer community that we're in because don't underestimate it? Don't underestimate the people you're surrounded by donor smoke the support that comes from a best of luck to Daryl grove, if you don't listen to total soccer show. I completely concur. Go listen to the even if you just go within the first seven minutes of that episode. I have not ever heard someone deal publicly was such a life changing things stage four. Or colon and liver cancer with the sort of just like clarity, and bravery and courage, and since of humor, even as Daryl that is incredibly impressive. If you have money to spare please help him out on that go fund me, if you don't re tweet a share of the link, just a note all these things, and I thought God Darrell obviously, everyone keeps supporting moving on here. Sam Johnson Martin from Sweden on Sam Johnson. He will always be remembered for taking a team from my hometown of Tobby to super a ton. Swedish second division. I will never forget him rainbow flicking in scoring to send super classic Swedish team ost. There's. All right. Those there's down to the thirty year. He's lightning fast. But like you mentioned not the best linka play. Granted it's been a few years since I saw him. But he must have improved to get that DP Martin from Sweden who's really excited to see a player that I've seen at the lower Sweden division, go to my favorite. So we of arguably based on that better scouting network than a lot of MLS team. I said I arguably for a reason, but we got we got everywhere everywhere. Hot that we have someone who listens to this show in Sweden whose fan of a club that Sam Johnson played for it in the fourth division. Extra time is huge odds of that of really low, right. How many how many fourth division Swedish? She was you guys before. Sweden. What about what about what about the? We're big Champa fans here. But we, but we we don't also watch leak two games that much. So we can't we don't not really experts on that league. On every big for yourself, atomic. What here NYC sees news silencing signing? Alexandru matriochka says his favorite players Zanka. He is also not the taller. Biggest guy. Does he need a similar nickname? The mighty molecule the amazing aphid the nuclear nanoparticle the galactic genome or the bionic beetle. What Tom again nickname. He does. He does Giovinco and was into ring named the captain of NYC keeping the culture going from David via port went out for him. Right, bobby? He said he's got a little Giovinco to him both feet. Very good strikes. Ball extremely well. Likes to keep it very close right on the fee is dynamically open space to highlight. I know Bobby did a lot more scouting weeded. But the highlight video NYC put out that I watch for a minute. He did look like Vinko to win a victim. I like, the what was the I think the third one nuclear nanoparticle lactic, Gino. Genome about what does was us. That's pretty good. Andrew ever heard of us before. But now that by beetle nickname suggestions, we are happy to take the chance to phenomenal emails. I'm only gonna read one of them because everyone else also sent us phenomenal Email, so I'm going to read this what halter chooses to do with his fullbacks continues to be an interesting topic for me. There was a recent interview with John strong caught offside podcast, which John mentioned, he got an hour tactical. Debrief from triple g the most interesting, quote, paraphrase was triple g telling John that in the international game. You can't push the fullbacks up as high as he didn't Columbus Columbus. Otherwise, you'll get punished am I reading too much into this. We have a slew of great young fullbacks coming up the pipeline pipeline in parentheses, Gino deaths. Is that young? I xe. Not I nineteen as you previously. Surmise Bobby so get excited. These maxim more on the traditional mold of fullbacks who can bliss up and down the field and contribute at both ends. I fear. They may not fit into the triple g system. Do you see g being Doug Matic about staying with the false fullback system? Can I take this? I go for jumpers. He's I mean, I'm not going to speak to what he thinks about international assuming you know, I'm sure he's done a lot of work on this. And I think every game is going to be different as in getting into the dog medic part just because we've seen the same system. The first game doesn't mean we should go into every game thinking, this is the system he's going to play and to your point about the fullbacks. Yeah, we have a lot of good, right? Fullbacks come into the system, basically any left fullbacks coming to the system that are really that. We can get excited about Anthony Robinson did not show. Well in the last time he was with an additional team. And you know, these last couple games Daniel Lovato's twenty-seven solid player. But you know, if you're going to go up against in March in Chile Ecuador, I don't think he's the guy that you want out there. So we got an Email from Peter in Atlanta along one, but he basically says the same thing Berle to my mind wanted develop a couple systems that fit into calculus of his players and the opponents and the game situation. Welcome qualifiers games. Whereas friendly's, gold, cups, etc. Which is what we've talked about for years. I think on this show is having different styles that fit against their opponents. I don't think he set up a system to beat Panama on January friendly, but you would like to think it says I of playing conga Catholic like this this. I think it's more of like a he's probably looking more as a concave kind of going down to Saint Vincent and the Grenadines or something like that getting a win, right? The playbook terrible mix analogy, basically like you can't put it all in at once. It's a slow process and go from there. I mean, I think also he said in interviews Gregg Berhalter that he's studied international game. It's a little bit different. You can get exposed extremely quickly. If you do have fullbacks that push push push which has been some of the complaints about edlund in the past playing that position for the US. So like, you know, if you're Columbus Crew, you can lose a game on a Wednesday night in Philly and be like not all his lost. If the US you're you're playing a lot of games in high. Stick situations where if you lose all might be lost in goal differential will. So I think you'll see him in my opinion, be a little bit more pragmatic with the fullback spent to your other point Peter Jack here, and we got a lot of grams UC mentions, but that's what it's about. He says I get no one's talking about Graham Uzi shot up our halters right back centre, mid roll. Even though he's probably the player in the pool. I haven't even thought about that really good for the coke. So we'll talk about that in a second. But I he says he's old, and it seems like we have plenty of younger options. But why not give Beasley shot at that leftback left centreback role. I get that he's older, but he plays centre-back regular. He's played left-back plus left backed up chart is pretty nonexistent. Or Bradley Josie the only members of the old guard you're willing to bring back. I mean to me, I think what he thought the boroughs thought this camp was was bringing those new guys bringing in younger players to get the more acclimated. I could see younger older players maybe come in for March and the Gold Cup. And then after that, they'll be phased out Beezer would be guy that you maybe you could see there. I I I can't say I'm gonna see that. I would see them actually doing that. But that's the kind of rational you wanna think with. That's I mean, he would definitely work for the Gold Cup in that position fees. Are will be thirty five. I believe in twenty twenty. Booking? We always about twenty to twenty twenty two. What about this summer about? Also Daniel loves twenty seven sound like he was exactly young plano. But I don't think it'd be looking at dinner love it's and being like he will be in the World Cup for us. It was just. Yeah. So talking about Sanssouci Andrew learning from Kansas City wants to know is Sanssouci a bit too long in the tooth for that Nick role Lima Nick Lima role. But would it be crazy? See Peter Vermes, mimic it and use him in that way, for sporting KC Vermes, largely did mimic it. He did it throughout most. He's not quite to the extreme. We're at automatically transferred into the three four three the Berhalter did. But s Casey is done this for about a year and a half where zuzu would play right back defensively, but the second they want it. He went into zone over tation between grams -i Johnny Russell, and Roger Espinoza where Russell would take the wide channel zuzu would talk in. Sometimes Espinosa would come to that spot and zoos would go to a ten. So this something that for me has been doing and just hasn't getting the same credit for it. Interesting to think about Susie for the national team though and doing it as well moving time less Cameron. We're almost out of seal. Season. My two biggest concerns for Elliot going into this year of been our back line and finding our best combination of goal scores. I felt criminal Mira's didn't get enough run last year any chance the US teakamp helps his case Zimmerman seems to be continuing his strong play from last year. Maybe I should be more confident in our d if not these guys any guys from January camp that you think might be poised for leap this season. Hold on. I'm gonna say. Hold on. I'm gonna say oilseeds strikers without getting rid of the lineup in the mix. I don't even know if anybody else is going to play to be honest, we coaching thirty four twenty twelve MLS. Maybe you got a good job LLC portion. So yeah, I think Ramirez Ramirez DO we're going to just split a lot of time. And he's probably gonna ride the hot hand five to guess defensively. You got all the centrebacks you had last year. Plus Eddie cigar who I think is maybe going to get the starting role next Ramin? And then yet basically the back on bass the same. I mean, they are looking a lot of at a lot of goalkeepers. It seems like for we've heard three different three or four different. They have to in camp with them. I'm assuming they're gonna wanna bring it someone to least challenge Miller. But it doesn't seem like I need the names that have been thrown out there all more backup type players than than players challenge. So that would be the one aired concern with otherwise, you know, I think they're pretty set two guys from camp or a few guys from camp, Bobby we making the jump. Maybe. Oh, sorry. Well, looks like the backup right bags going to be shipped over former US youth international played a lot as a winger in the past. Blessing, by the way, maybe doing some transition as well. I just look at that camp. And I'm like, well, who is who has an already made at least some sort of leap. Is there a guy which is a guy which could be that guy? I think he'll play. I mean that that part of it is kind of like Aaronson, Philly Mehovic is something that you love to see in this league because it is an American who conceivably the radically has a hole in the Ross Chicago fire that he should fill as a number ten or at the very least a creative midfielder. I mean, Sebastian legit Canada guy who could make a leap this year. Yeah. I don't know that he's ever had a full MLS season where he's been a tiny tributary twenty sixteen. But he didn't I thought he got hurt or came in late. Yeah. I just think you look at that team right now. And if they are able to get all this stuff figured out, which Sam guided us through with a lot of patience. God bless him. What if you had something? That's John dos Santos and then geo and legit in front of him would being more of an option to kind of come back and help defensively because Geos probably not going to do a ton of that. He has those abilities. He has what I mean to me. I think it looks like GPS is going to go with something. More long lines of what near when with less you at the four four two. And I think Geos the first guy at the pinch to be honest. That's what you're looking at right now and legit jet and Joan next each other. So is there any name pops up? I'll give you the names that I'm really interested in Jonathan Lewis is of course, one to assists in two appearances for the national team unclear kind of minutes. He'll get I wrote about that yesterday. And how I John Lewis is really interesting case example on how we should think about the way reuse players and shoot we shoehorn. And by we I mean, whoever happens to coach him NYC year Gregg Berhalter into a starting role or can he just be this guy that is phenomenal off the bench in? We'll do Trent even give him. That chance. I'm also really understand. What happens with Russell canals kellyn Acosta account Akasa got sent home before the first friendly. Because apparently he was outplayed by other every other center midfielder, which is a little bit surprising. Well, honestly, like the way that the way he uses singer midfielders, it's a little harder to see where killing the cost of fit into that. He would he doesn't like pushing up as high as those other guys do so it's it's a little more understandable. Once you saw how he deployed those guys. I that's a good point to go off of that as well. Clearly Berhalter what something from his center. Midfielders? That's not natural to what those players do either cost or canal, some interesting how that influences their performances we saw phenomenal house was playing the way that he plays for DC United. But clearly what Berlinger wants from that defensive midfielder is different than what can oust naturally offers. I'm interested to see how much canal tries to prove her halter and everyone else that he can drop deep plan to pressure that he can paying long balls, or is he just going to be the bulldog and same with the cost of who. Isn't naturally the type of player that Michael Bradley or will trap is how much does Berhalter's demand change the way they play in will that be good or bad for them? I'm going to add one Paul areola seven goals, eight assists, good season, but not a consistent game-breaker. And I wanna see if he can take a step this year. I think he's better than the guys we've talked about already. But I think there's a potential that he could be one of the cornerstones for DC United over. The next few seasons straight up. How do you think the revs do if bows on signs? I mean, are we dead? I'm concerned about the attack. I think they can score goals. And if he comes that's cool, and it'll be the biggest signing their history. Probably. But like it's the back line. It's the backline. It's the back. Disrespect wolford's Hebrew every week on this show. We I won't allow it anymore. We'll just got to be happy with number two. So sometimes you got I mean, we haven't heard that much about boy on recently. So and with the Carlos heels dream, and did they have a lot of players in the spots at this point Orlando city fans, would it be beneficial for them to make a move at goalkeeper or a new striker up top Dom Dom Dwyer? I believe the midfield and defence is set shouldn't have to make any new requirements there other than depth. Would it make sense for Landau to settle their three young keepers? Should they go after someone like Brian Rowe who I think is trialing? He's been he's been with them for the whole rise. Or should they try and go get someone with more experience? I James O'Connor said multiple times this preseason that he likes to go keepers battle it out. One of them. Will emerge kind of what happened with the reds last year? So I think that's fine price. If somebody messes up go to the next one so they've been playing a five three two with like Chris Mueller as one of the two top. So there they're really need a lot of swimmers look sick. But there are there was a report. Grafters Venezuelan international with on Zee. Mecca hot catch Kalo nail. Now. Four goals this year he has goal with Venezuela. So they're growing up to him. It looks like suic- if that comes through, but they do have a lot of defenders in central midfielders, like us FC Cincinnati. We got a fun one in on or. No, what do you think we have what soon? Good one. I one is. What numbers do we play longtime listener since twenty seven first time writer over the last several months on the podcast players have been referenced by numbers for their position, for example, Ozzie Alonzo at the number six position Doyle wrote a column in mid January about NYC of see starting with a false nine in their lineup in the same column. He posed the question can Jack price plays number six for Colorado. So my question is this why isn't there more consistency with the soccer position by number nomenclature sink, consistence inconsistency to me is really irritating. And feels like when a non soccer person says in order to be hip. I'm not picking on toil but feel free to only everyone else's guilty as well. Just look at the. I was the one thing feel free to just look at the articles under the new tab on MLS website, February six article Elliott looking at Mexican goalkeeper SIS Sega, I don't even know and loons reeling reading goalkeeper on loan. Why don't they say loons reeling in number one on loan? Of course, I'm still waiting for the day when someone says they play a false number one. Although I think Ed Gavin may have the wreck considering yes, I'm the person who writes a lot of these that would make things a lot easier. But yeah. It goes back to how positions where way back in. I mean, you decades and decades and decades ago where there was literally number to find. England, national team still starts their team one through eleven. Yeah. They do. No. I'm pretty sure they do. So yet, they Bobby still shaking his head. That's why I'm stop has yet to learn that you have to voice your disagreement. They do. So it's like each position had a number and the numbers are based somewhat on old formations. That's why it's a bit confusing. Why like the numbers what is it two in three or fullbacks foreign five or your centreback sometimes, but some people have four as a quote, unquote, number six inverted inverting the pyramid. And then to find a one it's harder. Who said while I'm at it. My wife, and I moved to Amsterdam enact Tober, and I remain a diehard NYC support. And I'm must addict, I'm not at all patriotic. I'm apologetic if anything, but in moving to another country found myself clinging to certain aspects of my density as an American ways, I didn't expect an American soccer culture. The strengthen diversity the scrappy never say die attitude. The willingness to innovate sort of captures the stuff that American culture, I feel most proud of and holding onto when you move somewhere else. You folks key me connected in the league. We'll we're glad I feel like a Cornwall, but your work makes my life better. I've managed to find an MS fan out here DC United, but I'll take it, and I'm working on helping an English ex-pat finding MLS team to care about keep chipping away at him. There you go. So we've got scouts now in everywhere. A few people in Japan eastern, Europe handle, we've got like, Hungary and Germany. We've got I think Chile, and I think Odaguard for sure. We're all over the world or skied in our cause very very deep from four cornball everybody else. That's it. From us. Have a good weekend. Everybody will see real soon.

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PMS 2.0 112 - Matt Hasselbeck, Macho Scotty Smalls, & A Peek Inside Our Lives

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0

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PMS 2.0 112 - Matt Hasselbeck, Macho Scotty Smalls, & A Peek Inside Our Lives

"Hello it is Thursday October third two thousand nineteen. We're coming to you live from a box truck in Greenville North Carolina. This is the site of the temple. Ecu Game happening this evening on ESPN. Do I know anything about the teams and a little bit strictly because we interviewed the temple football all video staff this afternoon and you're GonNa enjoy that conversation ten thousand dollars up for grabs by the way out of that conversation tomorrow with the Kidney Macho Scotty smalls in electric factory that video nobody videotapes anything records. Temple Football Practices Zito got a chance to meet the entire video crew. Zito has always said he thought he should be working in a football operation. He always said he's supposed to be quick the manager Zito after meeting the video crew. Do you think your potential is supposed to be a part of the video those guys. I think so basically me he was and he was an electric factory. 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Smoking Dope dire the I think it's so interesting the way marijuana has been viewed by the generations right and I've always said this that the reason why marijuana is viewed in such a negative light by a lot of the old heads who are currently in power in creating laws laws and stuff like that for a long time ago and I think that's changing was because first impressions go a long way in the first impression marijuana for a lot of these older folks that are in power. Our was the hippies after the Vietnam war in the hippies after the Vietnam war where everything that these old folks are not. They're anti America. They're anti war. There were anti the soldiers. They're anti the troops. They were everything that was bad. In America in a lot of people's is the older folks is and they have their entire life link those together. They've been like all right hippies marijuana marijuana study say it's good for everything basically inside your body. Audie Bot what's not recall whenever them dopes hippies wrong trees out there winston society away their smoke weed in first impressions are hard to get over over that is a true thing now granted has more studies and more sci comes out and says hey this cannabinoid cannabinoid thing in hemp and marijuana and everything like that is literally very good for you. I think it's something we should think about. It's a much better alternative than pharmaceuticals. It's a much better intoxication cases than alcohol. It's a much better thing than potentially everything else that you could potentially get into in your world. Then there was the entire thing whoa it's a gateway drug. Do you know ninety percent of the people that do smoke marijuana. I'm like well. I would say one hundred percent of those people smoke cigarettes do at some point you would say one. Hundred percent of those people have used the alcohol as well so to say. It's a gateway drug. It's been a lot of propaganda a lot of pr against it now that more sciences and studies are coming out. Everybody is realizing that it's probably nowhere near as bad as we originally thought it was here in Marion County Indiana actually just got decriminalized which Indiana is a very slow moving state so if it's happening here. Let's assume it's going to happen everywhere which also means the Bible says the token not only financially. Is it going to be good. Not only biblically is going to be good but also has shown that it works very very big wonders for your body for instance. There's a lot of people that live and die by CBD now. I like to use it a lot. We have a company that we do a lot of work with CBD MD.. He they put me to sleep and they've also made the arthritis in my knees kind of disappear my old man who had that thought about the hippies and marijuana for a long time. I think he found out that I smoke dope and it was almost a moment where he wasn't GonNa talk to me for a while but now that he's on the CBD in his body feeling better everybody's kind of coming around to it and then athletics believe it or not there are a percentage of men and women as well even though I have not seen them so I can't speak for them who who performed better whenever they are exiled is lower whenever they have a much higher focus whenever they are high on the marijuana. I did not do it because I never wanted to have a bad game and then they're potentially blame. My golly McAfee is high. That's why can't kick but for some guys it works for them. I would assume if you watch the NBA and you can just look in the eyes of some of the guys out there and you go to your local. Ellie fitness the guys that are probably bowling all the little white kids. They're probably high if I had to guess because because they for some people marijuana cannot only make your body feel better not only can bring you a little happiness but makes you focus more. It makes you dial in a little bit more. It gets rid of the anxiety the over thinking and the paralysis by analysis personally Harvard is the first player to really come out and say he's been high in every single game. I assume there will be more as we continue to go through. This is a lot of friends that I was played with through did this on a very regular occasion and it was like all right. I take toward offer every game which is a shot that they have no idea what it does my liver kidney. Nobody has a clue. It's GonNa do that. Thing might kill me quicker than what Morgantown did to me. For Four uh-huh had a great time by the way Morgantown is a great time but I- abused my liver embody to the tone of forty thousand dollars worth of student loans that I got out strictly wait to party which is a story in of itself what if guys are taken Tornado every single game and you're taking other painkillers just to play football. Oh and he's not doing that but he was smoking weed instead. I don't think people should judge them is hard now granted the images that will doctor prescribed the toward all or the doctor prescribed pharmaceuticals day in prescribed marijuana. He got that off the street corner well. That's pretty accurate statement but if we're getting two point eight to point B. to make our bodies and minds I feel better if it's a safer more healthier route. Why would anybody judge. The Guy and I assume there's going to be a lot more of these stories. Come out as we go in. The interesting thing to me is personally. Arvin even had like chronic migraines so marijuana does nothing for migrant. I don't think so or he's smoking wrong strand. Somebody should hold of I'm bill. I got this anti-migraine stuff. Put this in a bowl for you. Get out there and do the whole thing but I think as we move forward as a society as we learn more and more about this I think the devastation no demonization Lau. I knew it was something that's a good word. By the way the demonization of marijuana I was GONNA disappear. I think just because I mean what it does with cancer patients what it has done for people with arthritis what it has done for everyday lives the little kids that their lives lives completely changed whenever they get cd and things like that. I think it's a slow process but you gotta remember. The old white center in charge had been credibly terrible. First impression with marijuana judgment comes from yeah. I can't speak to the migraines but in the interview he said that he was taking seven prescriptions for his anxiety disorder like Zoloft and all of that that and none of that worked so that's why he was always smoking marijuana before games and stuff but you know what's interesting. Now people would say then is that a performance enhancing drug because it gets rid of his anxiety Zayed's little bit and I would argue. I'm not sure maybe maybe I don't know if that helps you out mentally and everything in between years but adderall is there's. There's been no place in the NFL. There was a kid that came my contract. Your your four when chuck came The new regime came. We had a new special teams coach coach. He was a joy I mean it was. He's actually a good guy but in his first year with some power. I don't think he handed it properly now. I've gotten a chance to chat with them or whatever my first conversation with him he literally said to me. He said you need to lose some weight. Look bad and I was like where we go to be good. You know what I mean I was. He was like both smells like all right well in my head. I'm like well looking nice to meet you and he was like Angie. Learn how to directionally punt or we'll fire you because we're bringing in a kid who already knows how to do that and I'm like a great first impression with this guy right like I just said about the marijuana. First Impressions are tough to get over especially with me. I am very stubborn human so I hate you. I hate you forever. If I differentiate on facebook you're not coming in a little bit more relaxed with the twitter blocking you know because a lot of people because you couldn't people back in the day so if I had some bomb that was just tweeting me every day. I'm on this Apple Lot. I don't need this human's life life. I just block them like see Larry. I wish I could do some real life to just see later and then everybody deserves it but now you know I'm getting older and realising grudges his need to be blown. Away is not good for you so I'm unblocking people but this kid that came in to compete for my job. I would go into the facility by the away at like midnight. I was going in there like one. Am I couldn't sleep. I couldn't sleep because I was trying to learn how to direction upon you gotta remember when I was drafted. I didn't even know how to I mean. It was just like a couple of years later and now it's my time to potentially get paid by contract. You're I just had my best year. Just bombing the ball right down the middle of the field. All the greats have done Shane. Andy Lee you name it. All the great punters just bombed the ball down the middle of the field. which is what I was doing? I was trying to learn how to punt so going into my contract here. When I'm finally going to potentially make money for my family it's going to be good. I get told by special teams coach Richard. I either learn how to do this or I'm going to get cut because of bringing in a kid. I was like all right. Well us McAfee's. We work. That's what we do. You told me I'm going to do this. Even though I hated the way you delivered the the news to me. I'm going to figure it out so I couldn't sleep at night. I'll go in their late night me and the security guy at the colts. Silica was hilarious relationship. He the lights will go on some alarms of probably offers safehouse or whatever and then this guy who have been sleeping in his car out front would have to drive back. There was actually on the phone. He's like it's McAfee. I would have my IPAD. I pad or my iphone plugged into the music. It'd be blasting young Jisi at like twelve thirty. AM in the indoor facility now it's against the rules and probably not even allowed to have balls in there at the time but I was like. I'M GONNA figure out how to do this directional punk thing and I did. I picked it up pretty quick. I felt pretty good about myself but I put it in a lot of work with it. In the new kid comes in and he's fresh out of college is out of San Diego go and I'm watching this kid punt and he won't talk to me in Viteri at all right so obviously they had told him like you're coming in here. Take this job and for me. I don't care if you're GONNA do that. If I'm around you every day like we have to talk to you. This is just not going to be thinking he was dialed in focused and his eyes were massive. Every day is is Ra- massive so we're getting into camp like we're like seven days eight days in the camp where everybody's kind of groggy at this point in this kid every single day came in is literally glued open. Almost every meeting is taking all these it's not like why are you taking notes. We're just putting rider left like there's a lot of things I wanted to help him out but he refused to talk to me. I was like this is just a waste of time like even if you take my job you're wasting in create now. So finally I two weeks into camp or whatever and I think he's starting to realize that there's nothing you can do like. I just have a massive one. Nothing you can do literally. I understand what they were telling. You but there's other you could do so. I finally asked him. I'm like dude every single day. You're just you're thinking Ah. I don't think I've ever seen you potentially tired at all not dialed in one hundred percent. He's got a prescription for adderall and I was like a prescription for adderall like the college kids the second. Stay up all night and just write papers yeah. I knew that because I have add or whatever and I'm like well. It seems like you need it because it's making basically like method enter. It seems as if that is potentially cheating thing he's GonNa Therapeutic exemption. I had to go through a couple of doctors and all this stuff so I started thinking. I was like well. I should do that. Involuntary military like helped me to like I'm forty years old. I get tired quicker than anybody. I should get this drug. That just makes me BRI. Bushy tailed all damn day and then I took it finally the day I retired. I took it for the first time the day I retired. It was immediately after the press conference on comedy central induced in with Barstool aw in the next day. I had a bunch of media bunch of media to do in I was. I was very tired because the night before we celebrate just retired. There's not a lot going on in the super bowl so it was a big gas story. I mean a lot of people are talking about. It was awesome. Everything went the way the plan. I sent an ice. Thank you message to the city of Indianapolis. I was happy with what I was doing. I was excited and I was dead. Tired hard like I think it was twenty interviews to do that day and I was like man. I don't know how I'm going to be able to do this and I forget who it was. Somebody comes with me. You won't adderall and I was like I thought back the kid I was like Yep. let me see how that is. I was what four or five hours into a toddler Royce media and I was ready to jump over a fast. I was like man. If I would've taken miss my entire career I'm probably starting quarterback for the rolling and if Admiral is legal which is obviously a performance enhancing drug in tore it all is a lifesaver in the NFL. I will never want them to ban that but we have no idea what that does your liver or kidney and if all these oxycodone all these pain pillars and all these things do it why marijuana legal at this point. What are we doing why isn't legal wiser not allowed in the NFL. It's only a matter our time. Let's hope we get to it as big tobacco. It is we're down in Winston Salem and we were down in Winston Salem North Carolina game and they were having a town hall on how dangerous vaping is come down to the town hall to learn how dangerous what your kids are doing in how great tobacco the cigarettes great especially when he ruled by hand not only you smoke in carcinogens and tar. You're smoking love and that's what we need. You don't need these filters on there but the the opioid addiction to like this I mean ah it's devastating our country right now. How is there even an argument. It's all it's all. It's all big lobbies literally how the world works and I don't think I would have known that until watching house. US Kearns Pharma does not want the opioid going. No farmer doesn't and big tobacco don't and when you got big Pharma in big tobacco teaming up pool. It's amazing marijuana even feel like I laid out some pretty solid points. It's there. I feel like I really did a lot of people on the Internet saying hey way to lay that whole thing out there and then some people are coming at me saying stop selling marijuana. It's magical. I didn't think I did that. Some people whenever I like with everything like with alcohol not everybody's great with alcohol like with tobacco not everybody's nobody's great with tobacco everything's in moderation but for some people it also helps out which is all. I was trying to say I think the point across. Oh yeah like Zeno Naga Dog Away Guy. I don't think right zoos not big big. We got yeah that really don't really thing but if I have to. I will sign up for if you have to but it's interesting to the person who often said that yeah you know especially because there's probably a lot of people tell them not to say that and that's why I sent in there and I think more people are going to be coming. I'm an out because I think the narrative about it. All has always been like don't talk about it in public mostly because anytime somebody talk about something media normally bears them for it like Adam feeling situation relation with kirk cousins were they spoke about raw emotions in media start bearing about everybody gets is supposed to give cliche answers everything now that social media is opening up. I think a lot more people we're starting to see a lot more shit. You know what I mean. I mean you literally live in the depths of the Internet. The amount of Shit that could share it on the Internet is insanity. I do some digging. I see some things. It's almost like our society. Now not just athletes. Everybody's like you'll probably all gonna learn all this shit about me at some point anyways from the way our world is now somebody just walking to tell you before somebody else does and I think that's an interesting thing. That's going to happen in sports. People are gonNA start learning a lot of things about sports that they might not learn what takes away that stigma to it a lot of people a c marijuana even though some people see his very harmless. A lot of people still have the old style mindset where hey this is damaging drug. This is a drug and I'm not putting anything I don't know. Oh don't can't control into my body and understand that and respect it and that's your choice but a lot of other people. It really helps them out in a lot of ways yes in in a lot of ways almost died. Call Don a love. The sources subway deal because you sit in the ball party. Who was the spokesperson awesome for subway at the time Indiana's greatest party animal. Thanks anyways. It is interesting though subway thought that they had to drop him because of that. Oh my God this guy's a human fucking fish. He swims faster than every human ever existed. His Wingspan is that of a God damn octopus. His legs are built in a fashion to like. He's a dolphin. His feet are flat like Dorsal fin this guy who's built to swim. He's faster than everybody in the history of swimming any human that's ever gotten a body of water can't touch this motherfucker but he had a bomb private room and somebody caught a candid photo of him. Doing that can't represent our fucking sandwiches gone get them out. You know what people that need it subway they don't smoke weed these incredibly delicious cookies right here at the end to whenever you step up and get our our five dollars foot longs that are just bacon and meat and then here's some cookies at the end and we expect you not to be incredibly high while you're eating here. It's interesting thing but but I think the stigma of marijuana is going to win but I think with everything is our learned a lot that screwball movie that was I opening to me that was very eye opening the the way that they game the system was why because like I watched that acres documentary and thinking of Putin and that doctor what was his name. Oh Oh how God it was something it's a Russian something Charles Janko something along there. He's a mad scientists the thought of Ladimir Putin and him trying to game the Olympic doping system like for timing the test and testosterone and even breaking into the facilities that are housing the urine to replace it with other young like the depths that the blight Amir Putin went for Russia with this doctor who has gone into hiding since his documentaries because uh-huh wants a bed directly road shank off exactly what we assumed it was going to be but the watch like the baseball people. We'll do that basically same thing now granted. If Tony Bosch guys telling the truth at all he just threw every human he'd ever met in his entire life under the bus immediate red flag going up whenever that happens like okay this guy she's bearing everybody he'd been to jail. It seems like he's lost everything probably in his life so he's just bear him throwing just just subtle shots at Manny Ramirez Ramirez for no reason or manny didn't like sleep alone so sometimes I sleep at his hotel room and he would ask me to tell them bedtime stories. We need that in this. Is that need to be sentenced. Documentary that that's sentence alone made me think like a maybe this guy is to fucking bury people but to the depths of the information it all got out and the testing and everything like that. I think he's done a lot of the truth that he was connected to like damn year everyone got caught bucking insanity how they were doing it just the way he had a protocol recall and if they stuck directly to the protocol couldn't even get tested or caught by the MLB even if the MLB wanted to test them after people got caught people. Even more people are signing up because they thought they could game game the system. That's insane. I don't think I've ever seen that like I might be very naive but in the NFL I'm not sure I'm sure there's somebody I guess but I that was not something that was talked about like I never heard of that before so it certainly not that wide spreads what you're saying. It may have been but you've never seen you never heard of it. Watching that screwball movie I was blown away by I was like Holy Hell helling by the way made baseball much better much much much better George Bush saying that steroids in baseball and football ruin in the game game and stuff like ECHINACEA and like the integrity fairness because there's a lot of people who can't make a living because people were cheating taking their jobs and all that stuff I can understand that completely flip side just from straight entertainment standpoint baseball's much better whenever they're just taking all the drugs that they can his fucking mark mcgwire Sammy Sosa. I think they were literally eating needles. Were in those baseballs. were bouncing off of their baths like yuan must fucking spacex out of the fucking Park Dude that was what they were shown highlights of it. I was like man I remember when I was watching that and I didn't didn't like baseball's like hey we got to fucking mumblings about step into the Bader's box and just hit some nukes often these lochoe and they were doing so good or she's like that or like. They came out of a lockout yeah I mean they saved one hundred yeah pretty much yeah. Sosa you could argue that Sosa and mcgwire gas sit like saved the MLB from having a lockout and pretty much saved baseball at that time home runs. I'll tell you it is so interesting because there's no way in hell that the Mo beacon say you know what fair game anybody. That's on earth wants to take whatever the fuck they want. Even you world's strongest men dudes. If you guys can figure out swinging damn telephone pole. Come on over. Take whenever you want it just swing at these balls so we can get some ratings boost. That'd be very interesting to me unless the thing is you can't just be some scrub like those guys are all obviously still incredibly skilled like it's so you know you gotta be able to know when a curve balls coming or be able to hit like a ninety five mile an hour fastball like you still have to be good. If I ever get the opportunity you play professional baseball game. Though I'm calling Tony Bosh all right Tony Give you a a rod manny acquiring Sosa. We're on. I'M GONNA go play for the tomato. Mud Hens Mike Francesa legend. I just want to get one out first at bat you too. I'm just sitting at their like fucking 295 foxton barely turn my head Mark Maguire there. I don't remember this because he's kind of smaller now now. That guy looks like he could barely turn his head his he was a middle linebacker even bigger than that. He was like a tackle almost the way he was built in a bat look like a twig and he just sitting back on Shit. I mean that was incredible. 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