3 Burst results for "Ramana Jin"
"ramana jin" Discussed on Undiscovered
"Undiscovered is supported by target presenting future at heart. A new podcast about change makers across the country. Future at heart introduces listeners to cause explains why the 'cause it's so important for the community and takes the time to reflect on its future impact future at heart visits, Miami, Washington, DC, New York City and more to take a deep dive into understanding why it's critical to keep the future at heart download future at heart on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast undiscovered is supported by capterra dot com. We all face unexpected hurdles at work. Don't let finding the right software. One of them download capterra's new e book, the big book of free software for free. I kept here dot com slash undiscovered, whether you're looking for a new project management tool recruiting software, or an Email marketing solution, capterra big book free software. Has you covered visit capterra dot com. Slash undiscovered. That's capterra c. a. p. t. e. r. dot com. Slash undiscovered. Going through my t shirt or the other day, and I realized I have reached a point in my podcast fandom where I have more podcast t shirts than I do banned t shirts. Congratulations. Thank you and my my favorite one, of course, not like I'm biased is my undiscovered shirt purely I that, yes, it's a dark, Heather gray has our logo on it. And right now you can get it for twenty percent off with the promo code undiscovered anything in our undiscovered store right now is twenty percent off through October, and you can see all that stuff. And of course, our snazzy t shirts at undiscovered, podcasts, dot org, slash store undiscovered podcast dot org slash store with discount code undiscovered. Today, undiscovered playing you an episode from podcast that we love. Some of all parts brings you extraordinary stories from the world of numbers. Here's host Joel Werner again. So reminded being collecting these formulas gifted to him any sleep by goddess, riding on his tongue. And after a while he starts sending his work to prominent mathematicians all around the world. Now he doesn't Tony working, right? So there's no way to figure out how he derived any of these ideas. So these academics, they pretty much just ignore him except for g. h. Hoti a number theorist at Cambridge University g h hardy was this amazing, super mathematician of his era. Ramana cinema, letter filled with mathematics. Hardy was like, I've never seen anything like this. It's so crazy that it has to be true. Hoti was running on a gut feeling invited Ramana reminded to come to England to study with him at Cambridge, and for. Period of five years in the mid nineteen teens when England was in the midst of this bloody World War Ramana Jen prove some of the most astonishing formulas of the day during his time at Cambridge reminded and struggle to adapt to English culture. In particular, he found the food strange and difficult to stomach frequently seek, but doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with him. And eventually the constant illness got too much. So he returned to India in nineteen nineteen hoping to return to good health, but he continued to do his own research and in January of nineteen twenty. He wrote to his collaborator g h hardy in Cambridge, and this letter begins dear hardy. I'm sorry for not writing a single letter, but I've discovered this most wonderful theory and he goes on to list examples of functions. He calls mock veta- functions and for the next ninety years, nobody knew what he was talking about and this is very mystique. He sent it in a letter just a few pages long. So he didn't put any more information about it. But he indicated in the letter that he had a theory. And then the next letter Remond that hardy got said that religion had passed away. Remond engine died unfortunately at the age of thirty two long before he was able to explain all of his ideas to hardy and the other mathematicians. And so all that was left was the single letter that had a couple of examples. Nobody had any idea how Ramada had come up with them. And so these bizarre functions that reminded and dreamed up in a fever. One imagines on his deathbed turned out to be a huge subject of study and intrigue in the twentieth century. And this was kipnes big breakthrough. He figured out how reminded derived these deathbed functions. It was if he'd been able to undo some of the chalk workings that Ramana Jin had wiped clean from you. Slight one day I walked into office and he was like, Robert, I know how to prove that Ramada Jains definition of the mock veta- functions is true. I was like, oh my God. That's amazing. That's really big news. Turns out that that year two thousand twelve was the under twenty fifth anniversary of Ramana birth. There was a big festival going on all over India about Ramana Jin. He's a national hero there. So we were invited by Shasta university, a modern university that is based in Koumba Chonam in south India. The town that Ramana Jin lived in grew up in Ken was invited to speak about his new work, and they invited me also to give a talk on quantum modular forms, so can and robot head to India. I've been to India many times, but it was thrilling to share this pilgrimage with Robert visiting. Being some of the sites that play an important role in the Ramana Jin story when he was visiting them for the first time I had a considerable amount of work to do, which was hard because I was on anti-malaria medication that was making me kind of a psychedelic state the whole time I was there. So like I was there the Ramana Jim, the Conan, the Hinduism's whole thing was all swimming around. I was having extremely surreal experience. A magic him walking through ruins and temples in India, soaking up the brilliant colors, the smells and the people. This is component. It's a town of one hundred thousand people, maybe a few hundred thousand people, but it still feels like a village if feels like you're in this beautiful tropical jungle. It is a sacred city in south India filled with temples. It's called the temple city. The temple that is just down the street from Ramana Jin's child at home. It's about like a block away from his house. It's this beautiful, really int- the painted structure builds from rocks that were brought from the north by elephants like two thousand years ago that reach. I don't know five, six hundred feet into the sky. These giant stones are now blackened with age engraved with crazy ancient alphabets that people don't even recognize anymore. And as you here at the top of this temple, you can barely make out the intricate carvings and the very, very top segment of it, and they'll be eighty hundred bats flying routes ruling around the top and all the while you hear the rhythmic drumming of the drums that the Hindu monks are chanting to from the inside. And
"ramana jin" Discussed on Undiscovered
"Feeling. After I had this sort of Pitney with the tape machine, I was extremely enamored of mathematics instantly so robots to teach himself mathematics and the whole time. This was happening. I'm in a touring band making records, and I'm in studios all of the time. And also I'm a dad. So in sort of the frenzy of life, I also was trying to sneak time whenever I could to learn about mathematics and work on these ideas. Robot would be backstage, hit the textbook all on a break in the studio scribbling away in one of these notebooks, but being Museau with the maths obsession is kind of a solitary pursuit, no matter how many degrees of separation you went away from me. I didn't even the one other person that was interested in math, maybe like if you had a day job, but then your hobby was that you were a solitary lumberjack and you'd like drive out into the wilderness miles and miles and miles away from any other human being in with chop down trees. Being like a self taught mathematician, not knowing anybody kind of feels like it's that isolated like you really are doing this thing that it doesn't connect anybody else. Like across fight. The volume was slowly turning down on Robert's music career and mixing with this new noise. Number theory, mathematic started to infiltrate the music that Robert was making like he used natural logarithms to develop this thing called a non Therrien scale. Hearing pace composed in this scale. Now, essentially, it's a brand new musical scale with new notes set at intervals that aren't found in the chromatic scale. We all know and love. This intrigued the mathematics community, and Robert was invited to give lectures on music and maths at universities and colleges across the US. And it was on one of these trips that he met Ken Ono. For the first time I am a professional real live research mathematician, which means that I spent a lot of time thinking about numbers, deep in the wilderness. Robert ran into another lumberjack cans, really enthusiastic. He's very high energy. He's kind of far out. He's a fan. Thinker. I can remember leaving and feeling like I was flying on math like it was the first time I had engaged in such a deep conversation with anybody, and he ended up having me in his office for like an hour and a half, and it was a really, really wonderful experience for me. So Kenan robot heated off for a whole bunch of reasons. But a big part of it is this shade obsession with a mystical, Indian mathematician who's been dead for almost a century Ramona gin much of my work, believe it or not is informed by a man named Romana. Jin hee is quite an amazing figure. Really. He is kind of like an incomplete profit in the world of math. Once you hear about some mathematicians Ramana Jains name is it comes up if you don't know anything about mathematics, will you know about Isaac Newton? Everybody knows who he is either maybe like iron Stein. If you go one layer in, so you say have heard about people like oiler and gals. Then you also about Ramana Jen. He's very famous in mathematics, but it's like being famous and. Indie music. If you've never heard of pavement, there's no way you'll ever hear of them. But they won level in. So like if you know what indie music is, then you know who pavement is. Similar in that, like if you do know about pavement then like you really know about pavement, do what I mean? Like you don't have a casual fan, right. If you've gotten that far in, then you're too far in. Born into poverty in the south of Indian eighty ninety seven Ramana Jin had almost no formal training in mathematics and yet still over the course of his lifetime. He came up with thousands of mathematical formulas because he thought they were gifts to him from his Hindu goddess, a goddess NAMA Geary at night in his sleeping dreams or when he was meditating in his temple, his family's goddess would come to him envisions em would touch his tongue with her finger and write equations on his tongue. Just how Ramana Jin came up with these formulas. One of the biggest mysteries in mathematics beyond the folklore of goddess riding on his tongue. He left behind no trace of how actually derived any of these work. Like I said, Ramana Jim was born into a poor family and paper was expensive. So he did all these calculations in chalk on a slight wiping the slate, clean, Izzy wind. It was only when he got to the. The final formula that he'd transcribe it from the slight into a notebook. He presented his work without any proofs is just a list of equations. Nobody could make heads or tails of it in his era. And for the last hundred years mathematicians have been trying to work out what Ramana JR and did and to prove his work Ramona work is all about unlocking the infinite about taking what most of us think of is inconceivable and making it more noble. You found ways of taming extremely complicated numbers so that you would never be afraid of them at all. As I looked into Ramana Jen, I found that his story really spoke to me. He was a self, taught mathematician. He didn't have access to education hit in fact dropped out of college. This inspired me to realize that you could take the sort of self motivated nonstandard path towards mathematics. That's more commonly the way that artists go about it. I saw him as being the model for the kind of genius that one might aspire to. You know Ramani was. Mathematician that provided me with the model of how I saw that mathematics should be done. Flash forward a couple of years, and I had decided that I was going to drop out of the music scene stopped touring and go to graduate school. And if I'm going to do that, I should probably do it now. I'm like forty until like over the course of a year or so pulled myself out of the music world. This is huge robots rockstar music is his entire life. That was sort of a weird, you know is a great time weird time to almost had like an identity sort of. Dissociated few a little bit where you have like people will leave town and change their names and move to a different place and take on a whole new identity. Didn't have that going on, but I felt a little bit like that was going on because there was no crossover between my music life and my math life, and it's pretty obvious who robot's going to want to oversee this crossover rut. He visited me at Emory University and he came armed with notebooks, couldn't believe it just like Ramana Jin had notebooks. You must have one hundred of them by now. Kim was grilling me to see if I was acceptable as a student for him and the. It wasn't just me coming in as a well known musician with a math hobby. It was like me coming in as a potential person he would work with, and it had a different flavor to it. The level of energy in the room who needs nuclear power. If you have someone like rob Schneider, he said, I don't know a lot of math, but I love beauty and I see that there is art in mathematics, and I wanna come study with you. It Emory, we went through as notebooks. I saw flashes of genius, and we took a gamble on him because a lot of the qualities that I see in Ramana Jin I see in Robert Robert's completely unconventional in his thoughts. And you know, he has produced some of the most beautiful formulas that I've seen in the last four or five years left that time it was more than flying on math. I mean, I was in like, orbit, you know, like it was such a great feeling. It was a very inspiring and exciting moment for me. As I left the building, my wife picked me up and the way she tells the story is that I got in the car and she looked at me and she said, I had never looked so happy, and she said to me, Honey, you're going to Emory, aren't you? And I thought about it for a second. And I was like, oh my God, she's right. I have never felt this happy in this kind of conversation about mathematics with anybody. So robot pecks up. He's house and his family, and he moves across the country to start a PHD with kin Ono. And soon after these Ken has a breakthrough huge result and it's to do with Ramana Jin's most mysterious work a mystery. He left to the world from his deathbed, but to understand it, we need to put it in the context of the end of Ramana Jones. Live. Coming out the mysterious death bed formulas of Sweeney Vaas Remond Dejan I've never seen anything like this. It's so crazy that it has to be true and Robert and Ken go to India when some of all parts continuing. Undiscovered
"ramana jin" Discussed on The Story Collider
"Is. My point is is that there are a lot of accidents. There are a lot of mentors along the way, and there could be a lot of luck in one's career. So my story is about how I accident. We ended up having a career in mathematics that somehow ends up with me standing bumbling in front of all of you about what whatever it is. I'm going to say. So what I want it, the story I wanna tell you about is my big breakthrough, How is it that I became discovered in ended up having a good career in his totally by accident? So as 1997 but twenty years ago. I got an email from Bruce burnt, who as many of you probably know, Bruce use a professor at the University of Illinois is devoted his career to studying Roman engine. And I am so grateful that he said that he had an unpublished manuscript that Ramana gin had left behind, and he wanted some help editing this manuscript. I thought it actually sucked nights were when you know what experienced Do I have editing a manuscript. But it was like the most incredible experience to a 1997 I was a beginning ten year track assistant professor, Penn State, Mrs Happy Valley. I was so grateful to get that job. Quite frankly, I didn't believe I deserve the job. I was certainly in a posture fraud. And on even let me just totally it about my circumstances. I had an office in the fourth floor. The building is called McAllister building was built in nineteen 0-4. It was originally intended to be the women's dormitory. But by 1997 It was a in decrepit state. But somehow is good enough to be the math department. I mean, how awful was it? It was this awful. The Internet went out probably every months. And I can exactly tell you why. Because the cables which were in the attic, The squirrels, we'd squirrels living in the attic. And so. So certainly the scrolls enjoyed the the taste of Internet cables are lease the release, the mouth feel of them. And so the Internet went out all the time. My office was in the corner, the ceiling was so low that there are places where all for half of the office, you really couldn't even stand up and I'm not that tall. I had an air, it didn't work. And my window It had a lock exploit as the celebrated once had a lock presumably broken off decades ago. But it didn't. It didn't even really matter because it's buildings and such decrepit state that there must have been like five or six layers of paint. The made it impossible to open the window. When he went any amount getting back to, uh, this, this manuscript, a Bruce burnt asked me to help him out with our It was a chore and are So we started going through the notebooks. And there were some things in the notes that were just wrong. But it turned out that they weren't wrong, It was that I wasn't smarten to figure tried enough to figure out how right they were sea-to-sea Ramana Jin in his notebooks. Sometimes use the equal sign in a way that so different from what we would agree as or if if vehicles be this supposed to mean a Unbia the same thing. But to remind engine it didn't mean anything like that. So over the course of several months we went through the notes and Zahn. You know, I had this freakish yellow couch in my office when you're poor graduate come were beginning, armed tenure, track assistant professor. You can't actually furnish your office. So I was so excited when I went to a Penn State salvage Abbada This The stained Orange County for twenty bucks. And it was like my most prized possession By the way, if you want, If you need like adding machines in the 1960s to Penn State salvaging by for five dollars. Twenty meant it was on this count that did most of my work. And in the course of going through Roman engines notes, I finally began to figure out one of these formulas. It was so wrong that you know just like Carty said, it had to be somehow right? It had to be born out of genius And it. I can't explain this, but it was one of those flashes of insight. Right. Finally saw what Remond engine had meant in this formula, and it turned out it was related to a eighty year-old problem. And I went to the computer and I started computing and term by term. It actually worked out spiked the fact that had no right to work out. So I went back to the Orange couch and I tried to build a theory out of it. And then it was another thing I finally figured out it was related to things had actually been thinking about I hate it when someone tells you when they are dead after sixty years that you don't understand your own subject.