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Postgame Show: No Hitters

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

07:13 min | Last week

Postgame Show: No Hitters

"I i know one name from the last four years. No hitter not counting. Musk growth is it must grove. It is must grove. Yes man you gave the first name. There's no shot. I had an pertaining. Well how do you wanna play the game. How do you want the back and forth to work here where i quiz you on no hitters since two thousand and seventeen. So i've got in front of me. The one two three four five six seven eight guys who have thrown no hitters in that many in the last four years i was gonna guess there were four. Well you understand that no hitters. Basically there been about one hundred and fifty right. It's perfect games. There've only been like fourteen or fifteen perfect games and no hitters there. There might be more than a there might be. Is it possible that there more than two hundred. No hitters man. Don't even ask me who through the last perfect game. I don't know that either was kevin millwood all right. So let's do this here. I don't know exactly how to do it but you. You wanna go to the guy who did it before two thousand and twenty one. You're not gonna be able to guess it by based on anything. I think so i have. I feel pretty confident about one name. And i think he was the no hitter before musk. Grove is is sonny gray on the list. Sunny gray is nowhere on this list. I think it might be because sunny grays. No hitter was right before this list was i. Is it possible that sunny great through then two thousand and sixteen and you're five years behind sunny graded and throw a no hitter. Last season i think sunny gray has thrown a no hitter. I thought it was five. Years ago has sunan gray indeed thrown a no hitter and can anyone tell me how many no hitters have been thrown in the history of baseball senate. Can you guys confirmed that centigrade is indeed a real picture you care about combined no hitters because there were three combined no hitters in two thousand and install a real thing. Yeah that's a real thing in my book. Either but i was. If i had to guess i think the the astros did one and maybe wait. Was that the first no hitter in padres history or the first solo. No it was the first. Oh i don't think the team no hitter from the padres. I think it was the first no hitter in padres history. This is the way that i thought we were going to do this. Mike and i don't feel like it's working right now because the people in the chatter not helpful and they're actively creating something. That's not my helping. There have been three hundred six. No hitters in history three hundred so kidding me re hundred and six no hitters and so. I've asked the team to put together a group of names that will allow me no hitter. No hitter mike. But they've here. You'll be not surprised at this at all. Paul blurt ed no no edward penis fingers. Ralph kramden you'll never believe who submitted that one. Now wilfrid wild bill. Cody it like. I'm getting no help from the chat. God rather guests. Who came up with ralph kramden. That was greg cody. Yes berry macaca. That was dan. Dan submitted that one. Not a real person and repeat his hands. Okay so i'm going to say all of those are fake. But no edward peterson's throwing later in two thousand eighteen. Oh that's right. He's with the raise. Jeff dick happy i would. I would definitely own a dick happy jersey. So no i i would say no did not throw a no hitter. Not that i want to assume his his gender. So ralph kramden throw a no hitter in two thousand eighteen. Nope no although. I do enjoy park and drinking and listening to tunes there as well. No doc mcgillicuddy. Tough one dr one huge as this one go either way. Huge is the way i was supposed to say jazz. Huge huge said. I'm going to say no both. No you're not gonna know mike. Fires is going to be the only name you know and justin verlander wait. Fires fires this guy. He's a real baseball player. And i think he threw a no no he didn't he snitch. On the astros in also blow up giancarlo stanton space yanni that stupid g beard one time also on his face i miss two no hitters. He's got to. He's got to resume not in my book this guy. He's honestly the most memorable baseball player in to me right now. I know so much about them. Compared to other people for lender had a no no didn't know that he did have a no. No what is the rest of the list roy. Do you have in front of you here. Because my screen has closed and i have to get out of here for the day and i can't look it up. What's the rest of that. Look like Joe moscow twenty twenty one alec mills twenty wake is. I'm gonna keep asking a pause here. Alex mills alc- alec alec mills is. I would have said that that was a fake name. I would've said one hundred percent that that was a fake name as a real. That's a real no hitter. Well that's what i wanted from the group but instead what i got was ralph kramden. Wanted to actually be able to fool you. But i wasn't getting a lot of help from the would've fooled me on alec mills one hundred percent fake name ted flowers two thousand and nineteen. Wow wait a second slander. Where ted flowers. Just because it came from billy now in my own head. I'm gonna say ted flowers is is he related. The ted lilly Be silly henderson. Alvarez hamas say henderson alvarez did two dozen thirteen deem. that wasn't last year chris. Archer chris archer is a good pitcher. Because i saw in relief of richhill in the one baseball game that i've gone through in the last few years. So i'm gonna say chris archer did throw a no hitter. He not what. I did find it where he's coming out of the bullpen. Marcus stroman He talks alive he's I think i follow him on twitter. I'm gonna say. Marcus stroman did throw a no hitter. He did not Williams pullman. i'm saying the a fake name is james paxton. That's also a big man. If you've gone james paxton would have gotten him. What else is on the list roy. Shamanee john manar. Real name is a real name but his real name. That threw a no hitter. Oh he's a winger for the devils dammit. Last name is spelled m. a. in A definitely definitely real through no hitter. That name. No for who. I have no idea.

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Episode 9 : Who is the most powerful Orisha?

The Orisha : Right Character, Real Power, and True Tradition

36:00 min | 1 year ago

Episode 9 : Who is the most powerful Orisha?

"Welcome to the podcast follow us on social media at the center for visit our website at the arista dot com dot com greetings readings and welcome everyone to the arusha podcast. I am chief and of course as usual. There's been some time in in between <hes> the session and our last session <hes> almost a year. I think within a within a few months perhaps the same. I'm held true for the chief u. Yeah podcast up until a recent segment. I did so <hes> putting some effort into getting things going winging moving again but <hes> in this segment. I wanted to speak about the most powerful arusha all right who is the most pow how far asia and i know this is a question that comes up often why because i'm often asked it <hes> via social media as well as i see this commented granted on many videos and the question came in and again recently on a video and i have to be honest usually i don't answer the the question but i felt compelled to shed some light on the i guess we could say the strength or the the power hierarchy of the arusha because there are a lot of <hes> different individuals who are giving information about out <hes> who's stronger who smarter whose faster whose power more powerful who's meaner who's more dangerous so forth and so on and a lot of times times they will share that information based on what they tell you they have experienced or even perhaps what they have learned from their instructors so people ask that question for different reasons of course i think most often it's because they want to work with a particular energy and they would like to find out they would like to find out who can do what for them the quickest or or who can basically who can serve them in a way that they that they want so there was a comment left by a michael mendez on the segment that i did on <hes> the youtube channel de risha the arusha and if you're not subscribe dr please go subscribe so that way you know when stuff is coming and a he said who is most powerful risha in your opinion please please explain and i'm just using his his question as the reference point because there's so many times that has been <hes> not not necessarily questioned but commented anton <hes> for instance. We have a segment and it's really just a snippet of an old ogm show on that particular channel where it was entitled on youtube. Oh goon the most powerful risha and i actually didn't didn't tidal heidel that so you know one of my assistance had created that title as well as uploaded that sample you know we try to tell people even though they don't believe me that i'm not actually running everything by myself by myself. You know so <hes> a lot of those segments so on youtube or you know of course i did them so <hes> but they were originally block talk radio segments so some years back <hes> i had tasked out to my assistance to snatch the audio off a block talk <hes> at least snippets and put them on youtube so <hes> god they titled them and they put the descriptions themselves and <hes> even moten most of them the the images that went behind them right so <hes> needless to say we have this concept of the most powerful right and again the question comes up often and the common if you look underneath that video on youtube video you hear a lot of feedback on that idea or goon is is not the most powerful owner is the most powerful going is not the most powerful yards the most powerful you know everyone has something to say and and if you will notice there's no comments by me because i don't really i don't really do that and you know when someone jumps into a space speaking that way they pretty much already. Let me know the level that they're at so i don't really have due to <hes> i don't really have to come off on my throne and sink down into the water to have that that water fight with an individual just kind of let let it let it stay where it's at and so i've never said anything but <hes> this individual michael mendez asked asked a question and asked most people just correct no. That's not true. It's not it's not true. Is that and you know unsolicited corrections <hes> it's about as valuable as unsolicited advice and usually just as appropriate all right so again getting back into <hes> the idea of the most powerful risha <hes> there is no most powerful arusha collectively. So what do i mean by collectively. I mean the most powerful vicious like your is like your favorite artist or your favorite favorite movie. <hes> favourite is much different than best right so if someone says who's the best singer who's the best trumpet player korea. Who's the best drummer who's the best rapper whose the best film director well ultimately is going to be the one who i relate to the most and the one who i relate took the most is going to be the best if you if you speak about hip hop and you ask anyone moore aged laissez from <hes> i would say eh thirty maybe thirty five forty up until about fifty five fifty fifty will even just say we'll say thirty five forty to fifty. Who's the best rapper they're all gonna start with biggie or they're gonna say pock you you know <hes> because in they might say jay z. May say naza probably say big poppa is right. If you go back before that you're gonna hit things like grandmaster. I mastercard is <hes> mellie mell kumo d you know so forth and so on and if you ask someone who's younger they may tell you kendrick lamar j. cole king lows you know so forth and so on right so ultimately. It's the one that you relate to the most right. If you think about comedy right think about eddie murphy who's getting ready to do a reboot or i think a sequel and other uh excuse me to coming to america <hes> and he's getting ready to start doing stand up again. Many people are very excited about it and you know i would love to <hes> check them amount. Because of course you know one of my favorite comedians <hes> however a lot of his humor that i enjoyed so much and and you know years ago and and you know when he was doing standup was based on the person's that he did of the individuals who popular figures at that time i don't necessarily surly think that people would laugh to an imitation of ralph kramden or mr t. you know or even bill cosby or michael jackson at at this time or gumby right because they're relating to a different set of values and a different set of information so it's the same thing as it relates laced the the one that you relate to the most and the one that you're that you intuit the most in is really which may end up being your favorite is actually the one one is going to be the most powerful for you or to you now. Why is that because when you ask a question like first of all let let me let me disqualify the question because you know you know i pick a quite apart questions i because your questions reveal your mentality and a lot of times you mentality not just not where it should be or where it's best to be in order to understand certain information <hes> when you say who is the most powerful risha in in your opinion please explain <hes> my opinion is inconsequential so when i yeah i never offer my opinion. I don't give my opinion if i'm inside of my home with the door closed and you know we just kicking it. You know my family or my friends. Nsima loved ones then. You may hear my opinion outside of that. You're not going to hear my opinion okay. <hes> opinions are always debatable and especially in an online environment things that are debatable usually will be debated and <hes> a lot of times. It's not the most pleasurable experience and you can't win as a man and online debates as a man you will always <hes> it's a feminine environment environment so the moment you speak up and say something people will start stabbing at using shaming tactics <hes> why you so angry upset you to this you know they start playing those little silly games and of course you know as men are recourse or unnatural recourse. We can't really enact in a cyber the environment so i never give my opinions <hes> even publicly even doing election anything like that. I don't i'm not into that. I will give you the truth and the truth can be deliberated deliberated which is great. You know we can when we deliberate truth. We can break it apart and see what's inside. I've been in dissect it and and look for the the actual essence of of where it began but <hes> opinion just pretty much leaves you going in in debate circles and i'm not much one <hes> for public public debates for no real purpose but anyway so i won't give my opinion but i will give the truth on who is the most pa ah for russia and again <hes> to requalify the anti gave earlier the most powerful risha is the one that you're able to ascend with <hes> the most of the one that you're able to relate to the most and have a quickening experience and what that means is this <hes> when you think about the the idea power power is basically capability right so <hes> to be to be in and just basic sense now we can go beyond and we'll go slightly slightly beyond but just a basic sense. If i was speaking to a five zero or six euro six years oh someone was six and they said what is power i would say power is the potential to be able to do something or the capability to be able to do something. That's what i would say. Powers our neighborhood saying like what do you mean the potential capability baba and i would say well. This is where powers like you can talk right and they would say yes 'cause. You just asked me that question so yeah you could talk so i'd say you have the power of speech. Can you hear what i'm saying. Yes you have the power of hearing you see so power power. <hes> is the control or the ability to enact different faculties. That's it's power right so you have speech as a concept or as a modality as vehicle you have hearing vehicle and the one who has the power or who receives and is able to expand and quicken the power of speech or hearing now becomes power powerful in that place. That's why you have <hes> in our in our spiritual pantheon's. You have like the energy of overdue two-way which represents omni potency you know or being all powerful powerful now why is all powerful significant because all powerful correlates itself to all knowing right. How could i be all all powerful if i don't know every place that power can exhibit itself and of course for me to know every place that power that exhibited yourself. I have to be the the author of that particular. Reality were power resides right so let's save was a video game designer for instance and i designed the entire landscape brian's designed every level every character tree brush everything right then i could be the all powerful deity god or ruler of that digital environment because i am aware of everything that exists inside of that environment and at any moment just you know i can transmute or transmit myself into any any piece of constituent of said environment. You see so so that's that's power. You know. It's almost like as a parent. Sometimes you have a child who does something in that supposed to and you always catch him and they say you know. Is it that you always catch me. 'cause i know you. That's how i that's how i always catch you because i know you you know so. <hes> you know knowing is is directly connected to power hold on one second. I want to <hes> making a lot of noise here. Give me one second okay. I have <hes> i'm actually doing some some work for someone right now and i have <hes> <hes> something being cleansed with <hes> <hes> as a smudge combination that i created and the the the instance knocked over just now i was speaking so i just wanted to go and readjust at all right so anyway so yeah the power the way it manifest itself is through knowing that a particular thing exists and then having the ability to communicate or again to transmit has mitt or to infuse that particular thing with your energy see that's the key the ability to to infuse that particular the object or or that reality that matrix with your energy is how power is brought forth okay so for instance is when we talk about a risha and as many of you know in my book grasping divine power one of the things that i say in the beginning of that chapter is i just gave a breakdown of the word ratio or e cy aureus consciousness samis to seat or to select right so my ability see to transmit or to send the energy of my own are- into a particular consciousness is what is what empower stat particular consciousness okay. That's what empowers so it following an. I keep talking but i'm gonna move across the room a little bit while i'm talking willfully y'all can hear unfortunately i don't always take time to just stop everything and eventually but for now i got a usually most of the time when i'm speaking segments unbeknownst to you all i have about five sixteenths happening at the same time which is one of the reasons why sometimes i preferred to do the podcast over the <unk> youtube video because you know i don't have to stand in there to be stationary while sharing with you all are so and i just can only will that you able to hear everything i said so anyway back to this idea so power now exhibited itself when we have first of all a mind body connection and we're able to transform the energy of ourselves energy of our mind of our body the energy var spirit and transform it of course a different plane of consciousness right so for instance <hes> a glass of water is a plane of consciousness right that water own me is a different segment different plane different even round. We almost say no not round. I'm sorry cut cut round cut round cut round different dimension of consciousness and our ability to transmit our consciousness into that particular color place is an exhibition of our power right because we now will see the water or me do certain things who sale waters is powerful and we don't realize it's it's not the water itself that is powerful. It holds the potential to receive power and then when we transmit into into it then it can make something happened right and the same thing goes for any of your spiritual items on your way you know <hes> they they are pretty much in. They may be even if they're organic. They're pretty much an animated until you animate them through the transmutation or again the transmission of your energy in your car your consciousness and there's a you know there's a journey that consciousness business takes right so it's not like you just transmitted into these things and then this kind of like a dead in if you will right <hes> they actually go through them so so for instance. If you transmit your consciousness into a pile of iron it doesn't just stay in iron. It feels that experience experience it goes through that experience and then it travels to another plane whether it goes now from the city but the iron on the ground and it may go from the iron into into the earth or may go up into the air or maybe you have fire near near it and you know or maybe you blow tobacco smoke onto the iron and it goes from the tobacco smoke into the iron and then back into the tobacco smoke back out into the air and so forth and so on maybe somebody else will breathe it in now it goes to their experience so this is basically the transmission of energy and a transmission of life that we have now only an r. r. a. marisha work on e. firework but just in life period is a sense of <hes> exaltation of our energy at all times when we're sending sending it out either way everything is going to go up like we say what goes up must come down. <hes> was down must go up all right so <hes> it's the law of reverse gravity if you will because when we break that that bondage of that that that that car sear or they incarceration of time right then we're allowed to extend now to our highest pinnacle and a highest pinnacle is us being in <hes> stood erect back into our source you know through this whole life was slowly waking up which slowly coming back to a perpendicular point slowly coming back to an erect point and then when we get to that that erection or that erect point you know that's that's. That's the climax as it's the pinnacle. That's the crescendo if you will right so the most powerful risha is the arusha that noun only we are able to transmit the most energy into but is able to receive the most energy from us now of course. I know what you're next. Question is a witchery. Hsieh's is able to receive the most energy well that depends on your relationship with the you know how many receptacles that has to receive you see. I'd give you an example years ago. I was doing some work for someone. <hes> no yeah well yeah it was it was couple. It was it was a it was a group of people and <hes> we were having this really large been bay after <hes> we were doing the work we were doing <hes> some shangluo initiations shimon john. I think we didn't know hsun <hes> but you know we we were doing a good amount of work and of course i i had the knife. Can you know i always have the knife you know when it comes time for that they all right. Come on route so we're doing the work and afterwards you know there was a i won't mention the name. They're very popular. <hes> risha singing group very popular <hes> they were coming to perform for the n._b._a. And they came in the night before the n._b._a. Like pretty much after we had done all of the major work and <hes> <hes> one of my eldest was there and so we were we were just you know <hes> have fun you know <hes> playing in cards playing cards and drinking wine and just you know cracking jokes and everything and i was like you know bobby you want want me to go and see if they want to join us and he was like no you know spend time with them and i was like why not he was a because they're gonna. They're gonna wanna talk stuff all night. You know he's like. I don't feel like it so of course now. I've found myself saying similar many a time many many many a time most of the time when people around me they think i enjoyed this this answering questions all day. That's what i do for fun and i'm actually not thinking chief. Let me ask you this and chief. Let me and i just i gotta get away from you. Gotta get away from you. You know because this other things i i i enjoy you know <hes> so it's the same kind of thing you know when you can only only see a few maybe one or two or three connecting points to an energy and you're not able to see the largest scope of what that energy she particularly is which comes through knowing you know comes to study and things like that then you you don't. You don't get to really empower it at all. The levels that it may wanna be empowered act because you only have a little bit of it if you will you only have a little knowing of it so it got that goes for that goes for a while that goes any energy you're going to be working with. I'm gonna tell you something interesting <hes> before. I closes down. It even goes for people you know. If you consider what we are you know as <hes> any on or or as those of us who are living inside of these flesh bodies <hes> we are the transmission of higher divine consciousness into vehicles that are empowered now to that divine consciousness we are we are the <hes> the examples examples are we are the living manifestations of power right me speaking to you right now as a living manifestation of the power of old amari you see because or the divine right because what happens <hes> there's an experience of of internal internal experience or or internal vision <hes> hoping to become external vision right so what that essentially means is is that were operating around that's material but we have different ways that we manifest inside of this material reality and ultimately whatever we we manifest inside of the material reality begins i within the consciousness of i thought which is a power we have the power of thought consciousness is not necessarily a power which is the thing that is but consciousness can move into. I thought i which is a power and in thought can move into emotion emotion can move into words or you know or an and the knows those things can move into action. These are power the power of emotion the power of words to power of thought the power of action you see that but it comes from a an originating point of consciousness that now forwards itself into what we call creation or or even the power our of creation a creative power right so there's an elemental experience that happens in the sequential so kind of way that kind of correlates with what we are and what we manifesting as those as as all of creation and as a part of creation and this this is the way that the divine works you see this. This is the way that it works. It takes stats that which is within in it puts it to that which is without you see it takes it within pushes it to the without and that within itself it uses certain faculties of power in order to do that you see so there's an there's an operative or operating principle here where we begin to take our consciousness and not only are we looking for the spiritual value in and looking for the nuggets within it but we're also looking for that external point for it's very similar to the oh chemical processes where you have this middle point of mercury and then you have this more internal <hes> idea of <hes> or let's say the external idea of softer you know the external idea of salt and how the mercurial energy material vibration will move and and to the manifestation of saw but coming from a more higher end divine place you see so working with the reaches. It's the same thing we have an idea. <hes> there's a consciousness that we have and then we we see that consciousness we see the energy in the power oval gunar shown changle or arena you know <hes> although style luke kuhn or by or do while womb we of course the list goes on you know you leg beyeler royally <hes> and we see within our minds eye now what we're trying to to do is to get that value and get those attributes in those powers that we see within our minds eye to manifest themselves and the dominion of of of myth of noon or the or in the dominion of men right so in that what we're doing is we're taking this pulse ation shen or the surge of our divine energy from on high and we're using we're we're bringing an inside then. We're taking inventory of our power. What is i power. Okay all right. I can talk. Let me see what else i can hear okay. I can thank you know okay what else can move right right right. Okay kuku. I can love love okay cool. I can i can murder you know we we go we go on we going on and and we take a quick inventory of all of our powers and then we take surge of consciousness or energy and we send it out to whichever power it is that we want to manifest and eventually through our total resurrection when will become whole beings we have become the omni present <hes> manifestation of power and that you know we were all present we become obaidullah where everywhere you know we are everywhere and we can spark movement and action everywhere through that light because that's that light stat beginning overnment g you know <hes> or the spirit of light which is that spark that takes things into the beginning beginning so who is the pao most powerful reshift back to your original question right mr mendez <hes> the most powerful reaches the one that you're gonna know the most like any other tool whichever tool you know how to use the most in you've taken taken in and and really really really taking your time to learn and study is going to be the one. That's most powerful for you. <hes> me i'll give you an example example. I can do anything with ginger. You give me a piece of ginger. I can do anything i mean from heal to kill will to invoke anything why because it was a time when i first discovered ginger it was like when i was a child and i i i discovered <hes> barbecue sauce. I was amazed. I was like wow this is amazing. Barbecue sauce nice to put it on everything. I used to put it on tuna fish of course french fries nasa given right. You know <hes> eggs grits. You know anything anything that i could squeeze it on. It was getting barbecue sauce because it was just of course you know you can always win when it keep it simple when you you know oh for the for the young man on the go bread in barbecue sauce <hes> but it was like that so i knew how to use barbecue barbecue sauce every which way from sunday and i learned so much about that became so powerful was like oh i got to stop beating because this is actually rod riding out my stomach lining all right goodbye barbecue so right so you know of course i'm which how what you know learning stains. It's good to learn these things before nineteen years old you know and plus. It's no good getting in trouble all these empty bottles by just potus barbecue sauce who who us all about <hes> you know <hes> so it's the same thing when i first came into my studies of this i didn't you know i didn't have the internet and p._d._f.'s and all these different places that i could find line information in youtube and chief you yards and stuff like that <hes> the information came few and far between if you will so so as a result whatever little bit i had i had to really learn how to work those tools so really the most powerful energies oh jeez even to this day for me to work with the ones that i started with because those are the ones that i've really took the time to learn inside out upside down all right so that's where you're most powerful we. She's gonna lie in the one that you have the respect <hes> to learn the very most of that's your most powerful oh thunder you probably headed thunder thunder just hit really hard. <hes> and there's my confirmation. There's my confirmation so <hes> that most powerful risha is gonna be the one that you take the time to really studying learn. It's very tempting to get on and say what's the most powerful tummy something that you're not going to get it like that. Learned mike. I always say i stress education over initiation and you got a million people on the internet right now look at different polls where they're showing little samples of rituals that they're doing and things like that and i pass it thirty three mark. I didn't want to do that thirty three minutes all right so i'm gonna get away to go but i see images as of rituals and things like that and people trying to impress you with the words that they know and and feathers stuck into things and palm oil dripping all over over stuffing. You'd probably look at and say wow they know their stuff. Do they really know their stuff or are they parodying some stuff you see that's why i have the sedillo house so students can learn. That's why we have these podcasts. We have these channels primarily speak about learning learning. I'm educating you because the more you know and the more you can apply that knowing through the surging of your consciousness into different inanimate manit or animated or organic inorganic objects the more powerful you will become that's how you empower the reality around you by surging your consciousness into it or you can learn to control it and have a different kind of power over it because you take time to know it. Slash them all right. That has been <hes>. The arusha podcast has been good. This was good kicking it with you all again. I need to get back to what i'm doing and plus now that i got some thunder happening are really want to get back into my rituals ation and kick it with sean going all ya ah for a little bit and this thunderstorm already started to rain which is great because that means that consciousness is falling from on high all right <hes> this is chief. Make sure you subscribe if you like this year <hes> with all things <hes>. I don't remember we haven't done this in so long. Likes likes share subscribe right but this is the podcast so subscribe in sherri sherri. Let everybody know and remember. I got some new risha projects coming forth. They'll be on the arusha dot com the arusha dot com. I got a wonderful book couple books coming forth as well as awesome new videos got some some videos that i'll be <hes> sharing as well <hes> half lecture half <hes> <hes> instructional all right so and i and i have another little small book like <hes> meinhard words that i'm going to knock out pretty soon to all right so a lot of cool things things happening before close a fourth quarter twenty twenty all right until such time. This is chief. Everyone please be well and remained power.

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Paris Baguette with Lesley Tsina

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1:46:12 hr | 6 months ago

Paris Baguette with Lesley Tsina

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Americans can now look to the korean peninsula with envy to see how democracy should function. And perhaps how pastries should be prepared. This week on dobos paris. Beg welcome to boys the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm nick wider. Along with my co-host. Mr butterworth the spoon man mike mitchell mr butterworth the counterpart to mrs butterworth. Yeah that was sending by greg. Greg rights cheers to whoever maintains. The phantom wicky. I was able to make sure this simple roast hadn't been used before rosenbloom energy medicom if you have an insult you like museum mitch of the w. show simple roast making me hungry. I'd kill for a simple roast right now. None of those fancy deconstructed row several days skinny a straightforward roasts that anyone can understand. I'm talking meet. Inflame that's all. I need you trying to season this thing a fuck out of here. Fuck out of the kitchen with your seasonings. Kick this guy's ass spilling seasonings shut up. A i'll give it a seer i to give it some texture. Get the fuck out of here. We want flame in me in maybe some sort of stick. Simple roast flintstone style. Nothing fancy wchs. Wilma or betty fan. Oh you mean like in terms of who is a horny horny. Four who you horny. Four i don't i don't really i didn't necessarily or who do you think is more of a stud. Do you think everywhere. Fred or barney guy. Dopey right yeah. Barney's kinda dopey fred's more of the alpha. See here's the thing. I i think. I think the barney when it came down to it. I mean it's hard to judge which was a honk. They their way out of their leagues for their their significant others are way out of their leagues. But well yeah it's like who's the honky or a honeymooner. It's like well. They're they're not. Neither of them are supposed to be like you know. They're both like weird comedic guys. You know the neither neither mer hunky unlike us. So i think the Yeah i i. Don't know but i mean of the two of the of well-meaning wilma and betty. I guess i was probably. I'd probably lean. Betty is maybe the more conventional choice. But that's what i remember from childhood. I'm surprised you didn't say wilma. Because you had a name for her will me. It sounded like it's my name for cartoon character going ralph kramden his the the hungrier honeymooner crammed and probably if you had to pick one. We're good name kramden. Fantastic name barney's kind. Of w but i feel barney would like kick some ass. I feel like he's like strong. Is this weird to think of. I know he could be. I mean because his His son is bam bam right. Yes we this. As the strong offspring bam bam seems unnaturally powerful. So i think that barney would probably also be powerful. That's my guess. And maybe you know he'd have to fly into it to arrange or something but you wouldn't want to catch him you know. Hey just like that. Show with with dough boys. It's a living. Mitch spider scare. Wow it's it's related to the this week's restaurant but always speaking of speaking of which yes dispute nation. Go ahead no you know you go you go you go up to get into the drop in a second. I was so nelly warned me. There was a spider who built a web on our on our driver's side mirror. Tell me this day so you you. You have spider scare but you had ample warning yet no well. Here's the thing this was yesterday. And i was like. There's no way that spiders still going to be there. I get in the car. I closed the door behind me. The spider crawls into view like and he's just hanging on the driver's side mirror for the entire drives a twenty minute drive to get to this restaurant to get this chain. I pick up the food. I o home. He's hanging on the whole time hanging on for dear life. This this is just a spot. You're spider scared that the spider was outside of the car. As you drove. Wouldn't go lake. I mean this is pathetic. Why didn't know what to do. You ever have a big ass bug in your car while you're driving. That is where it's scary like spots. I've had a spider come down on. Its web inland from the windshield into like my area where i was driving that is terrifying airy jesus. Yeah i would lose my mind. That's a spider scare. Would you told his story of heroic spider that held on his life and made it. He made the entire trip. The spiders cool yeah. He does have more ambition and gets an i ever add did he did he by you at all. And you feel like you're having powers. Yeah i can. I have a spidey sense now. Wow you can tell when you're about to jack off your drop all right to spoon nation. Here's a little drop. did you like bonjour it. Fits in today's episode. Aided twice i liked it this number number five hundred. Quincy boys were in town. I know a little bit. Dano scoop mike is wow you almost got them all fuck is there is. There's a fit. It wasn't mutasa. Sixty his six. It's it's no buxton. Frail bought rid. Of course rookie was here and mitch scores. The rookie isn't nickname there. We go live. Yeah lovely lubega. Hey mitch you're gonna love this drop which features all the boys from quincy. I wanna give a shout out to my crew. Mattie billy e. durkee jovi and caitlyn. Wow follow me on twitter at jumbo. Dropkick wow thank you for. Your service accrue their own like a good crew. They if your service joe joe good job. Wow drop gel. I just need to point out. That mitt has ninety nine thousand four hundred twenty emails. Yeah let's not call attention to that it's gonna give me anxiety and you know what they're all from. Today i got ninety nine thousand emails. Say good grief. Here's my question about mamo number. Five babo number six going to come out been waiting twenty years for that thing. I was really trying to figure out some sort of thing for some like some sort of flintstone thing that was like. You're like jack off mop. That would say hey. It's a living. But i couldn't really i couldn't i couldn't connect to the pieces jakov mop good enough. That's off mark mitchell. We should introduce our guest. She left wait really joking. Because i was thinking about the show. An from unita writer for thunder cats roar and edina stores and her book restart me up the unauthorized inaccurate oral history. Leslie zina's here. I leslie hi. Thank you for being here leslie. I'm super psyched. Leslie over those expectations immediately. Put him in the basement. All right so i wanted to ask. I want to start things off. Because you and mitch are both you both have cats and i was curious what it's like living with a cat right now and if you wanna tell us a little bit about your feline friend well i am quarantining alone so my cats are my companions. Yeah it's it's a little bit sad though. Because i like it i have two cats I have a mr papers who is currently in studio Yes he's curled up a little ball. In what i i got a cat bed just for in here so he would just leave me alone while i'm working And he's today's the first day he's actually Stayed in it Yeah and then. I have another cat. I have a cat named mini pearl And she is awesome Yeah i've Peepers is seventeen and a half. So he's an old man and minnie pearl is three And she is a big old tabby and she's fun but yeah no. I feel like i spend more time petting my cats than i probably spend doing any other activity. I i'm with you as someone who is living alone single during the pandemic. let's just say walis. Lips are little chapped. I began my problem. Is like i feel like The it's the one thing that's hard as they napa lot which makes me want an napa lot. Yeah and i've also decided that any cry for attention is now completely valid. No what i'm doing Which makes live really enjoyable. But it's a lot of just like you're just a big pile of animals on a surface after a certain point that you know it was kind of embarrassing. I was actually. I was napping more than while inner my at one point to join you instead of the other way around. They jostle me awake. They didn't me with their paws to wake me up. This is how we think he's dead this time. This'll be a terrible time to like deicing. Quarantine oh man. Yeah because people would it be would be afraid to retrieve your corpse. I'm sure that's happened. Would there be any left though just because cats will eat you so wally number won't even be because they love me that much but i really think it'd be it'd be it'd be a meal that would sustain them for some time. Here's my question to you. If a guy like me gets mummified. I'm a thick guy. How long until. I'm like down to mummy size. You know what. I mean great question. I money smaller. I don't know maybe there are there. Are there fat mummies. I think i don't know if there are any plump mummies but i feel like mummies retort retain a lot of their tissue. It's not like they're just you take off those bandages and it's just skeleton inside or maybe it is now but that was the whole thing that it was kind of an embalming preservation press process maybe after thousands of years. You're just you're still skeleton these the soap lady right. There's at the at the motor museum in philadelphia. This woman who turned into soap. She sort of self mummified. Wow what yeah. I need to hear. let's see I read about this some book but Yeah there's a woman who disliked the way in which she died like her. Fat deposits basically turned into soap and preserved her. Wow that's like an ironic death in a twilight zone for someone who's like super hygienic. That's how they're punished or rewarded actually or rewarded cry. Turn into some sort of spicy chicken ceo much like for future generations. That's what when i was younger. They used to say like used so much pizza. You're going to turn into a pizza. I've said this before. And then it kind of sucked. When i got acne because i was like oh yeah now as people call your pizza. Face sucked. There's a bummer. But that was. When i was younger i was one of the dorito kid. I ate so much doritos. i love. Doritos she called me. The dorito kid grenell my nanna was she was. She was great. She was fun. She'd be rolling with a kid over the spoon man. You think i should take dorito over spoon man. I liked dorito. Kid it makes you sound like an outlaw. I it is like trademark. That would probably be an issue. Probably be it'll be like thomas dolby. You have to pay a little settlement to keep using it. But i think in worth it thereto kid bring it back my my my nanna doris mitchell Doris griffin believe her. I don't have to go that far back. i guess he's already griffin hair. Quincy from you think danced mad. Wait you see my grandson. I'm the dorito kid like god. Would it be like showdown at the golden chorale. I needed chip and then get shot to death. Not be a bad way to go. I'd love to go out eating chips to relocate. And then and then i was a pizza a pizza guy i so much pizzas a little boy. I've been trying to figure out. There was a specific pizza as had as a child i think it was pudgy. Piggies piggies pizza. I can't hickeys pizza. Piggies pizza. I can't find it but it was like one of those pieces that they made like in bars in like one of those like custom like toaster like those pizza toast robbins. You remember this. This is like a like an eighties might also be more of an east coast phenomenon. Because i don't. I'm not as familiar with the the bar pizzas less of a thing. I feel like out here at least was this was this was i think it was like square style almost like a yearly ios but but that was as a kid that was it just. We were going to bars as a child or what was happening. I was with my parents. And you get a temple or whatever. Sterling temple was also great drink shirley temples as much anymore. Love shirley temple one. You never had shirley temple now. I don't think so man. They're good as hell. We were talking about this recently on an episode on. We did this on an episode. I thought this was off air talk. We were was this. Was this air. Maybe it was. Maybe we did talk about sure. Dirty shirley's in the group chat. That's no this wasn't dirty shirley's this was on an episode is to he. Has this quizzical look on his face. Which is just bad. He's just going to be thinking about this next two hours. I believe we brought it up. But i will. We'll find out people will let us now. Yeah they'll let us know it's fine. We can we talk about this as we talk about the same shit all the time we're boring. I think the only cocktail. I did as a child was was virgin. Dockery's those are also great. Yeah why are you still thinking about. It's pissing me off. No we had this discussion. I finally got off mike. Stop thinking about it. Just don't think like the simpsons like hashtag hashtag. Surely you talked about this before they did it on us. Owed hashtag shirley you didn't if it was off mike. Were you trying to the like quote airplane man. I wish about that. It's a much better joke. One of the best crafted jokes ever another thing. Another childhood fave not favorite. But the thing that i would like to have sometimes as it relates to this episode obama. Pon there was one at the mall and my mom would go there and there were some. This is probably more like tween two teenage. This is a so. This is a this is chain. Not a specific dish. Yes you do you know it. I think of is like an airport shane. Yeah or a train station right. There was there was one of them in the braintree mall. What did you get from. Alban pan is a as a boy. I feel that there was some sort of begat sandwich. Lemonade that for sure. Okay but there was some sort of like chicken. i don't know. I'm going to have to look it up with cheddar cheese on the beget. Pretty fancy pants treat. I feel like for a for a boy. I always think of like a soft pretzel or something. Like a or like a cinnabon. Well it was like lunch. It wasn't having like a treat of a low. Gotcha guy you're talking about like a mall treat leslie. What were your some of your childhood favorites. Oh jeez we think. I mean like restaurants or or like specific foods. I think either or okay comes to mind. Well i mean it was the golden age of shakey's so yeah it was like When centipede and everything like the the classic eighties video were there. So yes definitely shakey's real quick. Where were you a shakey's like did you like that lunch. Buffet or were you more of a dine in order stuff for the table. Dining and order steph the table. I'd i remember the lunch buffet but it was the kind of place i went with my parents. So yes Let's see remember sizzler. Was a big treat. Hell yeah When i was actually when i was in high school. That's what we used to do on the last day of school Like four of us would pile into my friend genie's car because she had one and could drive and then we would go to sizzler. That's bad ass that's great. That's a great last day and it was just. It was also just a giant nerd fest because we would like sing gilbert and sullivan in the car and then My friend manner would write. These things called the off author awards for various fantasy novels and would read them out loud to all of us over sizzler. Fuck man what a group of friends. I envy that group of friends it was. It sounds awesome. Split right in their wives shut up. You're making us feel depressed about you. It was different around. Like i know this is very very very nerdy. I'm not sure if everybody else does. But i enjoyed it. It was actually ellis like all four of super four or five of us super nerdy girls just piled in a car and you know doing nerdy shit. Wow that's rad. Not as much gilbert gilbert and sullivan. That right did. I get right yes. Yeah wasn't much of that in frail bots car were. Did you guys go we. I've talked about this before we did pizza. Hut quite a bit. We were going to pizza. Hut buffet sometimes. We'd leave school for sometimes the parlor everyone likes pizza parlor. It's gone by the wayside. You remember swenson's i used to go to swenson's ooh yeah described swenson's people who are since it was an ice cream parlor yet like you know like looking at The i they did sandwiches and stuff. But i never went there for that but Yeah no just like a classic like marble topped table like lots of would kind of you know place to get sundays and stuff. Can i just quickly say that wider. Yeah you have been to swenson's you fool one of swenson's for a show for the podcast. What are you talking about is are you okay today. What is happening with you. When do we go to swenson's dan. we thought cleveland. Yes swenson's the galley. Boy hello are you out of your mind. That was swenson's is there. This was way different. Things gonna look it up in cleveland. Yes we went to swenson's swenson isn't around anymore. Like the one. You know. Old swenson's like the one i remember. Why are you are you. Are you the baloney sandwiches. Swenson's hello swenson's. I don't remember there being on the are you talking about we went to. Cleveland went to a drive in place. We ate in our car. Right yes allies. You're talking about specifically it was called. Swint sorry there was a phone call on my computer specifically it was called. Swenson's dry winstons. I'm i'm curious if this is maybe the same name but a different shell differently. That's ohio swenson's s. o. n. and the swenson's ice cream parlor is s. e. n. Name name spelled way back into the ending of henry story this but this is besides the point. You don't tim swenson's to meet somebody at a swenson's you could have had one of those like i was at the wrong swenson's swenson's i was at swenson's that's what i'm trying to say is a five zero routine first of all hold on a second. No this does this is not. You're not off the hook here because there's ice cream at swenson's because i thought leslie was talking about the swenson's we went to you. Still were insane and didn't know what the hell that we went to swenson's because leslie described a specific place with a marble countertop. That was a parlor correct. Yes we went. We went inside swenson's but that you don't go inside swenson's it's that's the whole thing. There's no indoor dining area. It's like a sonic but how did you kept saying swenson's over and over again. Yeah i didn't remember the name of the place hashtag. Who's crazy me listener solve. What would you get from. Swenson's half sunday of some sort or they had these like enormous kind of almost aguirre ellie style giant lake. They come in like a goblet the sundays. Yeah obviously i think probably most of the time. I just got a cone but like every now. And then there'd be something special that's why we just recently. We were talking about things that we would want like a like plates and utensils. And i'd like a whatever cups and stuff. We'd want fast food restaurants. And i i was talking about men the on the east coast and i mean everywhere just not on the east coast. Just my mind goes to like friendly's and brigham and those old those glass sunday cups yeah yeah man civic of a piece of glass or to have in your house but man did well cup or would you would you. Would you use it for other stuff if you weren't making giant sundays. I guess you'd have to unless you had a ton of of storage space in your kitchen you could use some goblet or something. Yeah the big ass drink. Somebody once gave me those little parfait dishes for sundays. And i just gave them away. Because there's just no use for them like yeah. What do you do with them. It's not even like a great way to eat ice cream because they're so narrow. I felt that way about carafes. Like i'm like part of. It'd be fun to have a carafe but then i'm like what am i do a craft for. What am i get a jug of something and then poured into a carafe. Classy few have like a guest room. And you can offer carafe. That's true yeah. I if i did more entertaining entertaining then. Yeah would probably be nice to have that somewhere in your arsenal. Yeah i like when people order a half craft of wine. Because i think it sounds nice and funny. Yeah it is fun. Let me get a half carafe carafe and a half funny. It is funny craft and a half. But but what am i going to do with the carafe in my house. Now i'm thinking i now. I'm picturing the carafe that you're picturing 'cause now he's also thinking about those like of swanky ones that they're almost like a pitcher but they're little yes. That is what i was thinking half way. were you thinking of different kinds of crafts. Well then there's the one that looks kind of like a salad dressing thing. Yes i know those ones like. It's like an hourglass thing. That you put wine in carafe. How big i don't know i never really thought about the measurements. Yeah i don't know what the i don't know what is equivalent to. I don't think it's not a unit of measurement. It's not like a leader like a carafe just like a half graph is whatever i just half the capacity of that given carafe a has half half graph. My mom's having fun for craft moms that a little too much. I don't wanna be around my mom. I was waiting for the rhyme. Rime hybrid ended it quickly in funding fund. that counts. so we're talking about a speaking of sweet treats leslie. We're talking about a bakery chain today. And i know from following your instagram that you are. You appear to be an avid baker. Is that correct. Oh yes very much so. I'm always impressed by all the things you're you're making they look so toothsome and delicious. I i it. Just how do you what is your. What are you like to bake like what what are what. Are you get jazz to bake what what excites you as a baker. It really varies. Like i used to be just like a cookbook follower like i would just find a specific cookbook and just work my way through it like everything. That was interesting to me. Actually i'm i'm kind of doing that right now with one cookbook. But i just. I feel like it will. In quarantine is a little different. Because then i'll i'll be craving something very very specific that. I'm not sure i can get and i'll see if i can make it myself. So i made a little Chinese sponge cakes. The little ones that come in the neighbor And then i made Trickle tart The like the harry potter thing That actually i learned how to make it a class. But i hadn't really felt like making it and i'm like i don't know what i'm going to see one of those again i'll make it And then i made a case of dea the Like the salvadoran like coffee cake. Type thing cake thing. Because i kind of missing it from porto's and then i had a really bad like takeout experienced there and i'm just like screw. It made it Case another word that means multiple things. It's like a theme this episode. It's true we got swenson's we got carafe. We got case of dea surprised that there was blake that that was what it was called. This mystery. episode. This is a mystery box episode. Jj is jj directing this episode wiped to multi verses are colliding. With what was it would be like lake. Hashtag food hominem. It's you bake the dea wha- what about like. Because i feel like i've seen you make some pies or you stand on pie. I used to not be into pie. Because i couldn't make pike crush properly. I didn't one of the hardest. Things is a baker started up right. That's what that's like a very high degree of difficulty as my understanding. I it depends on the recipe like i finally found one. That's pretty doable. And then now. Peiser pretty are easy like there's an auditor pie crust that i got so i mean that that now that i've got that i just use that for everything But i was sort of. I was afraid to make pies before i made. Just like you know the the crust kinda shatters and then you're like sticking little tiny bits of it and it's getting warmer and warmer and disgusting and it's just not worth it but Last summer i did summer of pies. So i just made one pie after another like all kinds of different. Wow sounds like heaven. Sounds like some of our past summer. this isn't it. this is the summer other than just begging a lot. I feel like i'm baking everything but sour dough bread. I'm just not in the mood for sourdot. I'm looking through her instagram right now. And damn you these these these are. These are speaking of going to the mall. If you saw pretzel like this at the mall i am. I got a picture of your pretzels. Here jump in line and grabbing one these these are high quality looking snacks. Leslie dot sina on instagram. A lot i mean a great follow. Some cat content a lot of lot of bakery content and then the baking. I feel like it's like that both that damn that looks great and then also like i wish i could bake like that is. It's both those feelings at once. I i i. i don't know why. I'll i'll get really really obsessed with like specific piece of like equipment that i really wanna get and like i've been kind of indulging recently like i bought like a pan and pullman pan which is one of those big square pants with the lids on its super square. Brad which is also kind of related to today and I dunno. I dislike i. It's funny. I don't really like i will bake for people like birthdays. And things like that. And i distribute a ton of baked goods like. I'll always have leftovers. Because i love lone league i'll eat half of it and then desperately tried to get rid of the rest of it like half of it probably within forty eight hours and just realize it's gotta get out of my house like text people and whoever text me back in time gets stuff but Subscribe yes i do big on demand But yeah i bake for me for sure. Like i like like there's a party or something like i'm always like i don't feel like i don't have anything to prove lake or probably know somebody else is going to be like. They feel like begging for people. I just baked feel like baking and usually at inappropriate times like in the evening where. I'm going to end up with a bunch of flicked scones at eleven o'clock which just makes no sense. Hey what's russell. Eleven o'clock scones. What's wrong with that. it's great. I mean nothing really but late. I mean you're just you're wasting like the first couple of hours of fresh scones on sleep. Good point i've never. I don't think i've ever had like a a fresh. Not hard scone like like i've always had well. That's very easily remedied Yeah you just have to like put enough like butter and stuff in it to make it flaky delicious. Yeah maybe i. Maybe i've never had a good scone before why it's it's just like a. I know this is the curb. Your enthusiasm plotline from the last season. But i've a. I've never had like a delicious scone before it's it's a fairly and i feel like it's the kind of thing of yeah i i'm sure people will be like i just haven't had a good one. Which sometimes people say and i'm like no a have had a good one had the one that people are like. This is the thing the example of what you should have. And i still didn't like it because just people have different tastes. I think you gimme gimme example of that. Why i wanna hear do you. An example off the top of your head like turkey. People are like like a really like like this. Like the really. It's never it's never gonna blow my mind. It's can i honest with you. Yeah you just haven't had a good one yet. okay i have. I do have a take on like certain types of baked goods like scones. Which is that. If they're not homemade. They're almost not worth it. Well yeah i mean. I don't a bakery. Scone is going to sit out for so long or is going to have so many things that people think that they like but aren't really that great lake you know like the the frosting on top. I feel like that doesn't add anything and yet it looks pretty like i want to get something like that and then i'll get it and be like. Oh gross what. I worked in video games. There was one of the artists had what he called the shipping scone. Which he was. It was a scone that he'd had for. I believe three years as long as the the the video game was in development because sometimes development cycles can be interminable and his whole thing was was keeping it until the game shipped and then he was going to eat it and he did it and it was it like the thing that didn't get moldy. It just got like super duper hard interest faulk. Yeah i'd i'd and i would've to get a layer of mold but it didn't it just got it just turned into like a doorstop basically so like i guess technically you could take. That's going on a long sea voyage. I guess oh. It'd be like the hard tack of scones walkers ask we get fucking tossed overboard like a so much better. You're talking about pretzels but yeah homemade pretzels. So so much better than anything. You could buy and really not that hard to make. I got that. I got gotta try because i love a soft pretzel and would never think you recipe. That's pretty kick ass. Would you share less. Would you share it with the doe listeners. L. of course. Wow our first recipe. We've never given out a recipe ever on this show. You know what it's not. My russellville vetoed cloud deserve it. Need to wessels audience. Yeah you don't want to create like a bunch of people who just want home cooking. That's like the whole that defeats the entire purpose. I wonder if there it was like maybe like third of our listeners. Just don't understand that you can prepare food on your own. You can make a sandwich include in that. That is the weird thing about baking. Is it like you can make so many weird things that like. You didn't think you could. And it's not. I mean after a certain point i bet i could make that but like i mean. I don't know i did monkey bread the other day and and the thing that happens to me happened. Which is that. I really enjoyed making it. And then when i had it. I'm like yeah. It's fine like it looked good but like it's just one of those ones that it looks good but especially if you're alone and you have this enormous bundt pan full of monkey bread. Just feel sad. Yeah god yeah a lot of what you're talking about the the issue that we have with the show. We did grocery store a month which is success. Just some of the biggest ratings we have around for the podcast but we will buy a bunch of stuff. St- stock up the fridge. And then it's hard to get through especially me single guy living alone like you were saying that. That's that sort of thing of you if you bake something. I do that all the time. Where i if i if i do make something and i'm like i need to find someone to share this with because it's it's just as bad or i'm going to eat at all. It's it's it's a very. It's very tricky. It's a tricky game. I had i had most during my birthday was a couple months ago and i did by myself a cake. It was a very small cake. But i'm just like i want a bakery cake and then like i you know i was delivering bits and pieces of it to people because like you know just like hey i'll just drop them off on your porch and maybe we'll eat some or something because never but but those little like you know. Well happy birthday to me in my cake. That's happy birthday. Leslie which feels silly to ask for ice cream cake. Ooh yeah okay move. Yeah and then you know that's gonna keep yeah. Toss it in the fridge in the freezer. You're good to go. Well i think about ice cream cake that i always was kind of curious about the frosting on something like a baskin robbins. Cake is just ice cream rate I think sometimes has a has another frosting. Well actually a great question them. Thinking of the of the coating vice cream whipped topping ringing it or something like that. But that's not what you mean. You mean like the top layer. Yeah well it is ice cream the white coating around it it looks like frosting is actually ice cream which is why that particular layer is just so delicious. Like what kind of ice cream is it or what you it is very. It is almost like a ice cream. it's a one in my mind right now. What i'm when. I'm picturing ice cream. Frosting hybrid almost. It's like a kind of thicker ice cream. it's in it's in its in its sweeter i definitely i know what you're talking about and i think that you're i think that it is some just. I think it's ice cream because it melts. When it's on your plate belt yes hype abol so like it's got a certain level of like i don't know but that's delicious. Those baskin robbins kitchen wizards haven't figured out. But yeah it's it's pretty great. And i think that the The baskin robbins wednesday. But i like. I don't want to all ice cream i want a little bit of. You'd have a little bit of cake in there to frozen cake. That's part of the fun boy. You're you're back you're nine years old. You're at the pizza hut. Sit down or the or the shakey's sit down and you're having some pizza and then i'll people are singing. Happy birthday outcomes an ice cream cake. Your parents brought for the occasion. It's pretty grand. You're gonna chow down boy that's like that's as good as life gets. Why just put his hand into his pants. Iphone throwing my spidey senses tingling. So so you've talked a lot about stuff you've been baking on your own but you're you're you're you're you're getting a cake for yourself when you get like a pastry or you get like a sweet treat from some place. Like what are your. What are your favorites to consume. Okay i think That's actually tough. i kind of with whatever looks interesting. I do like a good almond croissant. I'm not actually a big person. But i liked the almond croissants. I liked the crunchy. Cody on the top. I now he loves those too. And i i think the texture is yet the mix up in texture makes it really nice. I got i got. I got i got i go with the different croissant I do chocolate croissant. That little thing of chocolate in their wives. Yeah and you know what. I like it when it's nice when it's melted and fresh in it's and it's kind of this nice melted but also i've gotten before it at coffee bean and i also like it when it's when it's when it's solidified when it's harder to either way. I like it that coffee bean chocolate croissant is so not fresh but it's still pretty satisfying satisfying almost. It almost goes into a different category. That kind of squishy croissant. Like the one and that sort of goes into like danish blake put plastic. Wrap danish territory like this like that. That is like a flavor that i enjoy. But it's it's a different thing. It's so it's so. Loaded up with so many preservatives. I think back to my spin hearts day. Which was my parents would get. Spin hearts like a big packet danishes from costco and it would just be like a super quick breakfast and man. Those are so good but the so intensely processed because they would last like a month. You like a pack sixty and they're still intact you're right you fucking little fatty wider sucked those things down quick quick if i guess i think it's also like a danish is a great vending machine. Treat yeah yeah you know what. I think a danish here. Here's where i think because look it's a nice treat a dangerous nice street but when i'm eating a danish it's usually like before a meeting right. Want my stomach to rumble like it's it's like a morning. It's like a leisure one hundred percent right where it's like. I need to eat something. And then you look in a vending machine or you're at seven eleven or something and you just grab a danish will be filling and then you know it's not good for you but oh affiliate up you'll enjoy it and it's going to make your stomach. Stop rumbling. a hasty bite when you're in a pinch hasty hashtag hasty by. He says the bill. Because it's technically breakfast so you can even like it's four o'clock and you didn't eat lunch or anything like that like if you're like i had a meal at a danish counts as sort of as a meal. I had a period. Where i where i was eating like i was. I was eating every breakfast on the go where i was just like. I was always like When i was commuting by car and i was always like. I'm just gonna eat something in my car on the go like that was psychotic. What was it. What was it doing. That to myself was so stressful. If i could. I could have gotten up ten minutes earlier or gotten to work. You know a little earlier and then had something my desk but just like trying to eat in. The car was just like it was like i was doing that. It was just needless stress and mess. I i i always think of. It looks like what. I'm when. I broke even the car in the car. But i mean like but i always bring food and silly and then i'm always late to well i mean i don't know for work. I'm when you know. When i was tempting. I was generally late so i i always eight in the car anyways right like better than like having some weak weird little muffin like in a napkin. Next your desk like when you're just starting it's just like yeah that's true. That's a good point. Here's my thing you keep it in the car. That's when you're when you're eating on the go you keep it in the car. You know what. I mean you once. You're out of the car you're done with it. So that's kind of in a way is helpful again. Leave the leftovers in the car or allow me like once. You're out of the car like you. Don't gotta worry about eating anymore. You dust yourself off out of the car. You're good to go to eat at your desk or whatever. Look i think. I think i think there's a plus side eaten in the car. We're just do you listen to music. I mean you don't do anything in the cars. We know you just drive silently. No focus on being a safe motorist. I will say that For me specifically. I get more stressed out when i'm already getting zay when i'm driving at more anxious if i'm if i'm multitasking. So like eating. And then i'm also spill a lot. I'm very messy. And so i've had so many instances where i've just dumped a big hunk of avocado on my lap and soil by pants on the way into work. You know and that's like that's no good bill master. I definitely don't enjoy food as much when i eat it in the car. I guess that's something of you'll you'll get something that is really good but you won't get to enjoy i mean especially if you're craving like he'll get like a burger or a shake or something and i would enjoy it if i sat down but then i'm like oh i just finished the shape without even thinking about it but yeah right. I suppose that it is probably hard to be driving to work in googling. Buff minion on your iphone. 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I gotta go back to something yes. We talked danish. That's right you know. What the downside to a danishes what that lemon side. I don't like the lemon side is much. I like that raspberry side. Danish that kind. It doesn't have to be lemon. I mean if it's cheese then you're golden off. That's true great great. No lemons gross lemons hard to do in a pastry affiliate. I agree. I don't like lemon bars for example or i'm with you i i don't i don't hate lemon a first of all. I love lemonade. Lime made quite a bit. But i i love. I love lemonade. But it's just that sort of thing of that lemon side in the in in the danish like you're saying lemon bars a lot of lemon lemon chicken. A fan of lemon chicken. You can either a citrus. Tough like an you know. Blueberries julie company with lemon which makes it a lot better Lemons a good accent. Sure yeah lemons a good accent. I i like a little a little. Sassy i will say contra. What you guys are saying The i and i was surprised by this. The best desserts ever had my life was fresh blueberry pie at this restaurant new york. That's now closed. That had like a scoop of fresh lemon ice cream on top of it and dislike that combination works. Oh well that's fine. I mean that's that seems different. I mean like what that kind of funny because like. I do like lemon curd like that. Seems like a really good way to do lemon. And i do like lemon flavored ice creams. That's that one that works for sure lemon lemons just going to pick it spots. You want too much lemonade thing. You don't want being too dominant while there's no. There's there's no creamy lemon ice creams right. It's kind of like the new. This lakes huster that leg. Which is kind of an i actually. I have made that because it's an old school flavor and you can't get it all the time i shouldn't have gone out on a limb and said there's no creamy. Lemon ice creams is insane. Three pinocchio 's so a paris get was founded in one thousand nine hundred eight and south korea. It's owned by parent company paris croissant and has over three thousand locations in south korea. Hundred hundreds more across asia. And about fifty in the us leslie. I'm curious why paris baguette. why was this a chain. you wanna talk about. I had no idea. This is a korean restaurant. Until just now i thought interesting. I thought it was. I truly thought it was a french. Paris forget. I assumed it was french too. But you got yours. You got yours delivered right. i got mine delivered. i mean it was. It was in korea town. But i just thought it was a big chain that was everywhere so this uh in store i would say it's pretty like the you know. They had some edge in korean. That it was just like okay. This is this seems like this is pretty evidently evidently a korean in origin. But yeah. I was surprised to learn that when i was researching. It appears i get. Why did you want to talk about this. Leslie actually has to do with my cat. Who's just weird. There's a paris baguette. That i always drive by on the way to the vet and i always just like i want to go to paris baguette but i always have a cat in the car so i can't stop And i'm just like ooh periscope was like one of the first things. When you're like what are good places perspec- at i i like bakeries. I also like asian bakeries. And you know there's a couple different chain bakeries This is just the one that i remembered right. And i've been there a couple times like not not a lot but i just like i like the kind of like you. Your trump with weird or interesting pastries yet definitely and and i mean. I won't say i saw i. I'd never been to this place. But i have been to another asian bakery vaughn bakery that. Now he's taking me to. It's a vietnamese bakery. So not not the same thing but it. But like i do like i will say that and at least at least what i've experienced with von bakery and this bakery. It's like even the sweet treats aggressively sweet. It's a little bit more muted. it's not. It's not as ridiculously sugary. As a lot of pastries you'll get in the us and it's like and there's the there's a lot of whip premiums a lot of fruit. The ad is a place that like in mountain view. As to when i was a kid called hong kong bakery and they they just had a lot of stuff like this like An and i feel like there is. There's a lot of french influence. Like or like their taiwanese bakeries and There's a lot of knows There's there's like eighty five degrees celsius. Yes that's taiwanese. And i don't know and i just kind of like the bun thing. Yes they're very fun. Nick yes buns are fun. Fun fun what we had. We're regular sir. mix a lot. We're we had was like a bad. Pg sir mix a lot bombs banzer fun. That's that's that would be our song. We just keep it at that. We like juicy doubles juicy. Double cheeseburgers prevaricate. My aunt onda and i mean literal anaconda. Because because it's the pandemic and you need more friends i just bought an anaconda so i went to pairs baguette. I went into place my order online. They picked up in store. They were. They were super nice. You know really Everything was was squared away. When i got there. I got a all start with my drinks. We'll start beverages. They got these small ice delgada coffee which they never had before. And it's kind of like it's made with a you know you can specify the milk it comes with whole milk by default so i just like fuck it. I'm all in and it's kind of got like this this this Ice slushy coffee layer on top of it and then a layer of ice in and the milk underneath. I didn't realize. I guess as i was drinking it i should have stirred it up more. I thought it was more of just like oh this comes together and its own but it didn't so like i kind of got. I had an intensely coffee half in an intensely milk half but it was delicious. It was very very tasty. And and i thought it was just like you know it i. I love the temperature contrast between the icy slushy part and then the more liquidity liquidity under layer and they also got. Let me say this. I impulse bought some freshly squeezed oj. Because they had a little. I'll call it a mini carafe. They they had some some. Oj's in a case. And i was like you know what i'm gonna go for it. I impulse bought one added to my order. And i drank it in the car. This is one of the best orange juices. I've ever had really i'll so delicious i could not believe it. I was like this is this is we did a attacking citrus earlier this was citrus at its best. So it's fantastic. It was so good. You just re- you reawoke memory for me. Which is that. At obama plan. I used to get a fresh squeezed orange juice. That was one of the things. I used to get there as well and i know that this is a very different chain out just learned but there there must be something with with a with parisian style kind of bakeries like this where they got some good. They got some good fresh oj. Yeah i think the cause because orange quality makes such a huge difference. Mad g get bad you can absolutely get a bad fresh squeezed. Oj But this was so fucking just just sweet and appropriately pulpy isla. Some pope guy. This was right in that some pulp threshold. I was blown away by how good this. Oj was i did. Did either of you get anything drink. Wise yeah i. I saw the dog owners. Coffee too late like i just ordered a drink and i'm like i've never tried that. I should get that. But i just got the usual for me. I got a child and i was at it was fine. I mean it was. It was sweet. tasted like china. I got it iced But yeah no. It was perfectly pleasant. I got myself a twenty four ounce strawberry. Peach ice tea was i in that strawberry peach. St and i was this peach ice tea and then on top of it was kind of this Like a str- like strawberry puree. Almost it was kind of a thick. It was the the strawberries kind of like it was kinda thick and it was good. It was really really good. it was kind of. It was heavier than i thought it would be. I thought it would be just a straight up. I see but it was The the the the strawberry puree made it seem almost like the kind of it was kinda decadent or like almost thirty. Yeah drink like a smoothie nearly but it was still. It was still really really good heavier than i thought it would be. I feel like we get that comment. A lot at doboy meet and greets. Why's everyone always picking us up though. They paid for the vip ticket in clinton the price. If you go by show you get the you get vip thing you can. You can lift nick. And i up if you'd like to. That is a deal and if you lift us both up. Your ticket is free. Great going to fucking the theaters going to be packed with a bunch of strong men in the next show valid calendar year twenty twenty so pastry wise. I got the. I got an okay. I'll give a rundown of everything. I got five different pastries to try them and nelly ended up aiding all of them and they're pretty substantial. They're decently size. But i i just you know just for pure indulgences sake and because they were mostly or over all very good the aforementioned almond crisanto. We got their version again. Not super sweet. It was more of like savory side with just like the. The almond was the flavor was the dominant flavor. Great great crunch to it very fresh. Interestingly all their pastries come wrapped individually and plastic. Which i think makes you feel like they're not as like like just mentally. It makes you think like oh. These are prepackaged these are premade but i think they are all fresh made on site almond croissant was quite good. We got some and this This i don't know how to say shoe cream bread. C. h. o. u. s. You your shoes the stuff that they make a eclairs and cream puffs out of al actually also chose well there. You go well that that's what it was a shoe cream bread which was good and it was a again more on the savery side kind of a hamburger bun kind of texture with some cream inside. The cream was was was sweetened delicious. A cheese pastry. Frank which i was surprised why it's kind of like a a really a like an upscale wetzel dog. It was a little little mini hot dog inside of kind of a croissant crisanto bun on a similarly flaky and then it was just like very intricately had toppings and cheese on top of it but presented like very very elegant lay man that was delicious maybe a little too much catch up to tomato flavor for me but overall the cheese in the meat and the bread just really came together even room temp and i think if you warned that bad boy up it would be even better. I got a spicy curry coquette. Which i appreciate and said that. Bun form factor. Get some nice seeds on top. Maybe just a little. Like like not the context in which i would necessarily like curry of being a pastry palate. But i did think it was. It was well made and then the star of the show. The thing that blew my mind. I wish i was eating the right now. Estella crumbs sweet potato bread. Uis so fucking good. It was so great it was similarly like stuffed with cream. Full cream. Like me a creams men and i was and it was. It had like that. Have like a nice dusting on top of it. And i couldn't tell if as a sweet potato core something similar simulating a yoke and get like. Oh the white and the yellow of an egg as you're biting through it but man it was so fucking delicious as like this is. This is a dream pastry. Wow but yeah. That was my rundown of. What did you guys get a pastry wise or if you just want to go foods in general did somebody say dream pastry bitch that's right. I've been killed ironically in my pastry blood. uk. Yeah with a little more confidence. You'd see more threatening the pandemic scott and we cut it down fred man he'd be stop invading teenagers dreams. Hey kid takes time to yourself why you should give that advice yourself buddy. Sorry leslie what what did you get. Honestly a truly embarrassing amount of pastry. I kind of it's it's just. It's a little overwhelming. There's so many different acts of things. I felt like i couldn't get a coherent selection and i mean not not like you're required to but i don't know i couldn't figure out what to get so feeling I got a. I got a coffee bun Which is a thing. I just like. In general it's also a robuchon Or property It's this bond. That has a kind of a crinkly coffee coating on the top and then it has like a little tiny bit of butter on the inside like way on the inside like a more standard bun and it was delicious A i got the ham and cheese pastry. 'cause i feel like i should get something savory but i was not a fan i am the same problem with the condiments which kept me away from a lot of other things. There's like a pizza done but it had like every possible condiment on it. Yeah that put me off. It was fine. It kind of did have that kind of like old danish kind of feeling like kind of squishy day danish kind of feeling but i i mean it was. It was fine like idea. let's see. I got the blueberry yogurt cake. Slice that too good I get very clearly. The fruit was really good Kind of like a gelatin thing going. Everything was just sort of so precisely like stuck into place But it was interesting. 'cause there was a great bonnet which i was expecting. Yeah i think it was like a blueberry grape and a blackberry. Yeah dodge robberies. I mean i didn't quite get the blueberry yogurt part of it but let me just. The yogurt itself was blueberry flavored. Or was is it made with blueberry yogurt. Was that what it is. And i don't know because it didn't seem like that. It's expensive sponge cakes. And maybe there's certain filling or something. Look whatever you wanna call. It tasted good. Yeah it was good. I went for the okay. So i went out and i got the duet roll cake. Wow because i do love a good rule cake and they just for some reason they just sell it in like a log but they also have like split logs half raspberry and half as chocolate. It was really good. Faulk i fucked up. I was i in those logs. I was thinking about one of those logs. I was like well. You know you think you need a whole log. Yeah you know what to do with the rest of blog at this point but like it's too good log. It's like a creamy pastry. so basically it's like a snail so it's like it's like it's you know is a swiss roll essentially yes But with like that. Sort of sponge cake like I definitely like a big asian bakery thing like It wasn't too creamy a lot of times just like crammed with cream And it had like little crunchies in it like little chocolate crunchies in the swirl. I was really surprised by that but it was delicious. I like both flavors. I think i like the chocolate more but the raspberry was also good. Wow and i i well. There's one more thing. I got the mini bone dila ceo. I guess i don't know how to pronounce that it's basically it's a it's a castella cake So it's one of those sort of steamed like it's very square And it's made with honey It's similar nick similar to what you got. Yeah sounds like it. Yeah and it's a comes in three little slices and it was delicious. It was just yeah. It was great free moist. Oh man i did get one. More thing didn't jesus i paced myself. I spread it out over ten days. When i when i got home. I was just like oh my god. What have i done but Okay i did not get the strawberry harmonica. But i did get the strawberry peanut chrome bun thing which is like. It's like a peanut chrome bun. Which is the thing they have Sliced in half and they put pastry cream in it and strawberries and it was tasty like strawberries really good. The pastry cream was really good. The kind of p nutty crumb thing wasn't wasn't too weird thought. It might be too weird as a combination but Yeah i think. I like probably that and the The the castella the best absolutely. Wow so yeah there. Was those a lot of great. That's a great roundup. No that's a great one hundred percent. I mean you're in the right to overindulge. So that's good a mitch. What did you get and leslie. My order. I think was bigger off. Thank god here we go. I got a lot of different things. Because i'd never been to this place before. I want to try a lot of different things. There's a lot to choose from the menu. Like i said i had ordered that twenty four rounds. Strawberry peach ice tea nick. I ordered a beget. Because it's you know it's paris begets named placing it. I get a call. They're out of begets. What i think to myself this is. I'm some tracked on some points already but hold on. Don't worry don't don't worry because the story we'll turn it. And i talked to the the woman on the phone and she says you want to replace it or we can do and i say you know what just put in something that you think is your favorite your favorite item. So i'll get to that later. What i ordered. What else i ordered was a a blueberry cream cheese pastry chocolate croissant. And then i think that's it for like pace it's for sweet pastries for savory pacer. I got myself a sausage stick bread. These were fantastic. Nick wow three. We're really the blueberry cream cheese pastry which i was really excited for i remember despite into the you know when you're eating good This is good like you say something stupid like that because it's so good while you're eating it. That's what i was saying to myself. I literally said wow allowed when after. I took a bite of that blueberry ogre cake. That's the least surprising you tweet. Wow all the time. What i'm talking about but i'm just saying it's like i know it i was like oh and then i i said the thing and i was like oh that was dumb. But that's because those genuine reaction to this it's like homer realizing he said oh i said yum. I think after. I had the strawberry cream bun thing these are. Why why. I'm not giving you a hard time. I get it. The while worthy it is it is the chocolate croissant was really really good. The like i said it was the chocolate was kind of melted and it was great. The sausage stick bread was like my my. It was kind of like the low end. It had kind of a cheesy top. As far as things i liked. But the next day i had half of chocolate croissant left and half of the mystery item. Which i'll get to later that we replaced the beget and half the sausage stick bread and i went up. I had to do taxes. I want to our tax guy. Nick and i left the sausage stick bread in the car while i was in the tax meeting for three hours and i came out and i ate. It was heated. It was it had been heated up from sitting in the car for three hours and it was fantastic. I loved it. It was great. It's been like ninety degrees out here. Recently it was it was cooked up. It was delicious. Wow that's great was. It was great. I mean it really was great. Look you're gonna call me a fucking gross pig for this. But i don't care it worked it was. It was fantastic. I really really enjoyed it. Then i'll get to the sandwiches neck. Got three different sandwiches got. I got a sandwich. Do i got an egg salad sandwich. A turkey avocado sandwich and a tuna salad sandwich. I got you know weirdly. I got the sandwich you did not get the the chick chicken salad sandwich. Oh i mean i that there were a lot of options as far as no not a this sandwiches go and i think that it just depends on the store. I think that you can't different. Yeah different things at different place. 'cause there was some stores that had like what i want which i've never had before i wanna do that. Classic and now that i know it's a korean restaurant. I are korean based company. The what i was looking for. Maybe they they wouldn't have anyways but the bread and butter sample on a beget that classic french sandwich. I wanna try that at some point. It's just fucking butter in brie on on on on the twin peaks sandwich. Yes yes i've never. I've never had that ever. I've never yes he brings it back. That's right he doesn't bring it back. You spend the rest of the scene. Just lake devouring these sandwiches and just groaning yet. No it's like my favorite scene in the great. I want i want. I want that experience. I would love to eat that sandwich and groaning about it. It seems it seems great. But i went with these instead. The tuna sandwich. I was kind of in a tuna sandwich mood. I had one and chicken. The chicken sandwich looked good wives. But i want tuna salad and exile. Tuna was my favorite but they were all good. Yes the egg. Salad sandwich was was great. The egg salad sandwich. The bread was nice and soft. It was like the soft white bread off man. It was fucking fantastic and it had a couple of cucumbers on their the tuna salad which is really solid and i think just it was is my favorite because i was just really craving it and then the turkey avocado was good but it was a little a little a little it almost felt like too much and then also not enough at the same time like there was there was some like mayo or some something that happened. It was still good good. It was good. I liked every single. One of them Then for desert. I got myself as strawberry. Soft cream cake piece. And i got the and then also i got a slice of the gosh cream cake which is like the chocolate and then and that also had. Oh god i can't remember the name of it. Lizzie will the the french dessert. That's a little sandwiches is. Oh you mean like the little tiny cookies. Yeah what are they gonna like the macaroni machines. Yeah thank you. I had i had there was one of those on top of the on. Top of the ganassi cream cake and both cakes were fantastic. They were both just so good to the point where i was like you. Go and get one of these cakes. You bring it to a party or something. You're hero people in my time in la. And i've had good. I'm like this is up. There was some of the best stuff i've had here. It was really really good and then finally that replacement thing. Why the the the one that got replaced for the beget was the strawberry croissant. And so this is a croissant. That has cut in half has cream in there. It's got some sort of cream and strawberries in it was the best thing i had. And like one of my favorite pastries i've ever had in la. It was so good. Wow so they knocked it out of the park with the replacement everything was good. I truly enjoyed everything. I had a blown away. Knew nothing about this place at all clearly. Still didn't when i when i heard this on the episode but everything was great. You picked you picked a fucking you pick the homerun spot. What can i say. I real delight. What of our favorite experiences when we go to a new place and that we don't know a lot about and it's great and that was definitely my experience here but we should get to our final thoughts. Let let that bias you leslie but we should get to our final thoughts on on on. Paris bag gets so We'll go around believes. Give a closing argument if you will regarding this chain and end it by giving it a rating from zero to five forks. Leslie your guest will start with you. Okay it's a little bit hard to do because there's just such a range of stuff at some stuff. I liked and some stuff i haven't and i've had other stuff. Just that was fantastic with cheese. I'm all right. So i'm gonna get a little bit just because of the savory stuff like i just wasn't a fan of the savory pastries and look so good you know just like not my thing But the stuff. That i had that was great. Was really really good and just like i think this is that. Yeah you're right. This would be a good place to get something for a party Like i definitely think. I would take the role cake. And if i took that to party i would feel pretty proud of myself like i thought of a cool thing which is very delicious and then i would probably eat half of it And the drink was fine But he definitely like this is a place for the sweet pastries like i. I wouldn't go here for other things I don't know. I think i'd give it. Maybe this is low. But i'd say three and a half. Wow in a half forks. Yeah score all right did. But it didn't it doesn't it. not enough things. Blew me away for you to give it like a hugely tie score. That sounds like that. Sounds like three and a half orcs is is the correct assessment for your perspective. Then spoon man. I'm shocked leslie. I'm shocked by this. I knew nothing about this place going in. I'm going to knock a half for away. Unlike the the hours of research you do into every other thing we've covered on the podcast. Oh shut up. I write an interest. So i can complain about anything fucking door. That's your choice. I do. I spend my time on dough boys. I do my work wise motherfucker. Don't get mad seven fun. No but i just wanted to say you do. Do you work. I wanted to say something like that. Yeah you do your work. I'll fuck off lizzy. I really really. I thought this place is great. I here's the thing what you're saying of like. I just don't know the accessibility of this place. Like your go here for breakfast. It is kind of like the entire idea. But it's kind of confusing because it doesn't feel as much like it doesn't bring up obamacare and again it doesn't feel like a place like like obama palm where you go when you and you could get a sandwich made salad or something like that right nick just from your experience being the place. Yeah i mean. Even the i think the sandwiches are are made in the morning. Their pre assembled. They're not made to order. Yeah for sure. So i think that if it was like a storefront like that and maybe maybe i'd even go five works honestly. Wow for from from. But from what i from my perspective from what i tasted going into it i was singing four forks. I'm close to four four. And a half i just go goff taste here wags wow. I'm going off taste. It was really really really good. Wow everything i ate was really fantastic for you. Know what i mean. It was odd. It was a strange. You know there's a lot of different things but if you got a tuna salad sandwich in in a in a pastry for later or something and an ice tea you doing great. You know what i mean. I don't know yes. I'll go four forks. Because i liked it a lower forks. Very good score. I in the same. I'm i'm in the same ballpark with both of you. And i and i agree with the consensus. The one item. I didn't touch on is the grain chicken salad sandwich which i guess. It was like a grain bread. So an indeterminate. Number of programs could be seven could be nine could be ancient grains who knows but it was good bread. It was quality bread. The what i liked about the sandwich chunks of chicken not shredded chicken. You'll get sometimes with chicken salad. And then it had very sliced cucumbers in a very neatly stacked layer like poker chips like like you know knocked over on end are and that was great and added a great texture and and and and moisture. I really like i really like. I did like the chicken salad sandwich a lot. However i will say that. That wouldn't be like my go-to lunch. That would be like. Oh if i've gotta get something for later. Like i wouldn't get that if i wouldn't like go in there and i'm gonna eat this now. That'd be like well fuck. I need something for later. Might as well get this because you can definitely sense that. It's pre assembled but the ingredients are very good. All the pastries. I thought were were dynamite. Yogurt cake piece was delicious. The stella crumbs sweeping potato bread is i mentioned the particular standout at least from my perspective. And i thought the beverages were great great. Oj very good ice coffee. You know. And i think that's that's what you everything we always say. How is this place at accomplishing. What is trying to accomplish. How is this place at delivering on. Its premise and i think peres baguette absolutely deliverance. The great pastries and they got great beverages. And so going to be ballpark. Buds with you guys split the difference. I'm going for or you know what. I'm actually handled in club with mitch. I'm to say four forks. Wow okay so we're all we're all pretty enthusiastic about this chain degrees paris baguette. Yeah a lot of fun listening. Yes you showed us this chain and then you stab the chain back. Maybe i don't know i'm probably picky about bakeries. I think it's a really nice place to go get a snack and i don't know it's just there's so many good things i want to try somebody. I am shocked that none of us got the strawberry harmonica just because of the name. It is a great name. I'm gonna find this on here. I may be just didn't even see it. You know what i went there. I was like hey can get that strawberry harmonica monica. And they're like the boss got the last one springsteen. Yeah he's a he's a regular customer they're also apparently didn't see them but apparently there's something called strawberry cast nets which is like that but a smaller bunn who that's fun. Yeah i mean a bun with some like peace through criminal and then like a line strawberries. Which i guess looks like a harmonica but And yeah i mean you know i. I didn't get anything with rick. Red being or any of the more sort of like traditional like asian bakery stuff. I mentioned that. I'm asian. Doesn't matter i don't know probably not i just feel like i keep i keep talking about it and i never run but yeah i didn't do the red bean thing or the curry thing. Yes but i mean. I i don't i don't know how well it does that. But it's there. If if you like that yeah i mean you know like like i said i. I did get curry one. And it's it's maybe not my did not the context. I'd like curry in. But i think it was definitely definitely well made and yeah peres may get nice nice chain experience and hey that was thought going. I was gonna say i will first of all. I'm looking at that strawberry harmonica right now. And i i wanna i wanna play that thing on my long. It looks fucking great and why there's this thing called a tapioca sticky donut but there's an asterix says only sticky after wire recently visited our restaurant and that was a review of paris. Baghdad's it is. You didn't like it. it's time for a segment. I've selected a chain and mitch and leslie have sixty seconds to craft an order under an array of preconditions. Its debut of. Can i take your order to your order. My god romo. The is Shane can to your order. There are rules that all explain okay. So here's here. The rules the doe boys is a genius. A the chain is the olive garden. I have sent you each the menu. Okay you have a budget of twenty five dollars including tax and gratuity twenty-five news. You must order a drink. K and and here's the thing that kids slammed. They are out of pasta. That's thrash. look it's a. It's a wild times right. now you know. Demand for delivery and takeout is off the charts. They just they just ran out but they're they're pasta. There's still open and you have to order something for under twenty five dollars. Okay any questions before we begin to countdown on do we need to order dessert. No the all the only thing you have to order a drink okay. Why are they out of pasta. Susser went there all right. I understand all right all right. Your sixty seconds begins now. Oh boy i'm looking here okay. The olive garden online menu is not a pdf where he can look at all at the same time. It's a bunch of different clones tabs. You have to navigate so that may be a complication. maybe it makes it easier to rule things out. Maybe it makes it more difficult. Thirty seconds elapsed thirty seconds. Remain to figure out your meal for twenty five dollars including tax and gratuity. Okay including a drink and not pasta. Time is almost up. Eight seven six five four three two one. All right pencils down using pencils right. Oh yeah yeah those another all i. She said that earlier we had to use. We had to use a pencil. Yeah yeti is number one pencils extra sharp so all right mitch. Let's begin with you. What did you pick out well. This was hard neck lunchtime just to be clear. Wow savvy strategy lunch lunchtime as can be a little bit cheaper. I got myself the salad soup. Salad breadsticks Eight ninety nine so as eight ninety nine. I got myself also. I got myself a drink. Hold on. I just had to go back to the drinks was a raspberry lemonade. A raspberry lemonade. Three fifty nine. Wow and then we'll see if this works. I chose eggplant parm no side. Wow so what. I got what you got for me. Soup salad and breadsticks. Eight ninety nine shit. I'm going to go over on. I think you busted your budget. Eggplant parmesan eight ninety nine. But no side. You don't get a deduction look. Eggplant parmesan lunch. Eight ninety nine soup salad and breadsticks. Eight ninety nine. we're talking eighteen bucks pre-tax. Wow then four dollars for the drink at twenty two way. The drake was three ninety. Nine hundred three forty nine. Three forty nine. Okay have you at twenty one. Forty seven pre-tax. What does it with tax with tax. I'm gonna. I'm going to use to say that it's a. It's a la county so with tax and tip twenty percent gratuity and a ten point two five percent sales tax tip. I mean yeah that makes sense but yeah mitchell just over twenty seven dollars and ninety six cents but you know you're not necessarily disqualified. We see. I thought that we thought we could choose our own tip. All right leslie. What did you get. They're going to get a doe boys t-shirt part of the test is whether or not we're assholes Okay i also went at lunchtime and like mitch. I got the raspberry lemonade for three fifty nine. Wow look good Let's see what did i get. Okay and then. I got I got an app. I got trying to pull it up here. We go okay. So i wasn't one hundred percent. Sure i think this is. This means what i think. It means i got dipping. Sauces includes breadsticks. What okay. it's weird. That they would just say that it's the why the sauces i because they charge you for the sauce because breadsticks are basically free. Okay offering an order of breadsticks. with But but yeah but did but to give you some diplomats yes that was four forty nine and then for an entree up getting lunch sized favorites Lunch sized Lasagna classical for ten. Ninety nine wow. Does that qualify as pasta. Yeah pasta pasta sheets shit. You're right forgot about the no man. Oh man lost that well leslie not exactly accurate. You both lost. I think i lost for a reason that was. Can i take your order. Hey i didn't lose. Officially i just an asshole who didn't tip. I'm a huge piece of shit. Pulo rachel ray under forty dollars a day thing where you'd always calculate and she was like wait. Did she tip nine percents to get under budget man. If i had really been using a pencil. I probably would've written down the instructions. They go so less. We're gonna get those but you didn't have a number. One pencil was no now. I had no access to a number one pencil. This was just a convoluted. Psa pencils maybe you forgot about him. They're still around. And they come in handy. Just like a restaurant your feedback. What's up another feedback. And hey we got a voicemail. Today i'm gonna share this audio's well. Hey guys this is. Max from madison With the recent changes in the world. There's been some news about chains who have created delivery only spinoff. So i know cheese had delivery different brand they delivery on and applebee's and chili's had wings only delivery options with a two questions. One is do you see delivery. Only chains becoming more prevalent as we move forward into other any existing chains. Do you think cavity good delivery only spinoff option banks while. Wow maximum madison. Any delivery only chains That could exist in an existing chains with with good delivery only options any thoughts. Anyone well too. I can handle one part of that thing which which we don't like yes. Is that like pizza hut. We've talked about his is his turn into Basically just a storefront and so you know not a good thing. We want the pizza parlor to come back we. The food was better than yum brands. I don't know who's running brands but whoever stuck in there you're you're i'm guessing it's alfred e. neuman these days like more like bum brands with thumbs. They got running that place and sir mix a lot's not walking through those doors to prevaricate or not so pizza. Hut is one. That's turning into a it's turning into just a storefront. I mean it basically already is right. There's there's almost there's almost numb sosas. Major pizza chains. You know little caesars included. They they are. They basically if they have dining area. It's maybe like two tables. It's mostly intended for takeout and delivery. As far as delivery places a places that could do delivery i feel like taco bell is kind of toyed with it a little bit but in other places i'm currently mad at because of of them paring down the menu. They just talked about how they're going to be more of a it. They're they're going to focus less on that. Dining in concept they are going to make it an apt pickup. So why not go the full length and get that shit delivered. Yeah taco bell delivered you gotta taco bell. You got the big bell on top of the car. That would be fun. That would work. I mean it would be people would try to bring it and rings polls surveys and you hear the taco bell ding. It'll be all man. How great would that be. The whole. The whole neighborhood can hear it. Somebody got taco bell again. Mitchell's place. I'm i had a weird experience where we basically just never get delivery because it's just like you know it's it's kind of a hassle. Shut up no for for the for the delivery people just like they like are the parking's not greatest has kind of been the as an excuse to get out of the get out of the house not shut up so i'll go to pick something up but we had a place like had an italian sandwich of those places that we use on instagram. And just like oh. This looks good. We'll try this out and we went to physically pick it up and it was just like this this just like a door league league no store for just a door with an address and you open it up and inside it was like it was like an evidence room whereas basically just like there was they had figured out was one of those cloud kitchens that had like twelve different brands they were all servicing at the same location the same kitchen and then you go in and then just like a guy would like look up your order and then hand you Whatever you ordered from whatever place and and it was like is like so fucking weird so just like i guess one person or or owns all these things or a little fuck in kabul has come together to be like. Hey we'll we'll combine our resources and all have our own. A restaurant served out of the same location. But i was like this. It felt very i. Guess like distortion because like this is. This doesn't even feel like a neighborhood business. This just feels a little like a like a factory But i'd i'd hate for places to go that way. Because i think that part of what's fun about a i think like you know like like a pizza by the slice place. Are you like a sandwich shop where you can go in. And they can. They'll make your sandwich to order like. That's like part of the fun of a business. You don't want necessarily just like a a hole in the wall that hands you whatever you ordered via an app but i guess that's a big that's a big tangent from what the topic is yet delivery. Only wingstop feels like a place that i don't think they have their own designated delivery and takeout place. But i feel like if if wingstop went went whole hog. And we're just like you know we're going to do. We're going to be the wing delivery place that's going to be our thing. I think that could be a positive development wogs. I'll say it. I mean they do it with uber. Eats but at mcdonalds found out their own delivery service and you could keep that shit hot and fresh by the time against you. They do it in new york. I know i didn't know that. I mean that does mean the thing is at least that you're familiar enough that you would know it. Your order is without having to think about it. Too hard rate. Like i feel like that would be required like like. How do you see like I don't know like This is a new thing that's like a advert has an instagram a lot. And i'm like yeah. But i there's that whole first order. I have to find out if. I think that you're good or not. And it doesn't feel worth it right Yes especially if you're gonna spend one. I'm it's been like fourteen dollars in the sandwich yes to try. You know it's like yeah. It's it's i totally get that calculation. Anything come to mind. A for the prompt leslie. Anything that you'd any existing chains with good delivery only options or or change. You'd like to see have some delivery. Oh man if they could find a way to do fosters freeze. That would be pretty awesome. Fosters is great. Because there's no. I mean there's really no good way to do ice cream. That isn't that you can get pints and stuff but how often do you. I mean you could just go grocery shopping at that point. Yes but like yeah if you could get like a like a like a fountain as type of ice cream drink or something like that or shake or i mean i. I'm not expecting a dip cone like that would require technology that i probably don't wanna eat but But yeah i mean but no i would. I would do that for anything like that. That stuff is not so different lake in terms of like the. The ice creams aren't so different from each other You would have trouble then. You wonder what you were getting right lousy. I wish could be delivered. Leslie baked goods There you go great. I mean you know. I do birthdays and requests if people really want to hit me up. It just hit me up instagram. Wow we clear to be clear. That didn't mean me. Saying i want leslie to bait me something and then deliver it the okay now. I feel weird. I mean i would totally grade. No i'm saying that's not. That's what i'm saying. I didn't want mitch. You've been driving at at this whole episode. She'll do it all right. I'm gonna do is now at this point. I mean i would feel. I feel six in a terribly uncomfortable way. Just like i'm my back is against a wall. Truly can't you just bake me something and then drive it to my place. I mean how is all right. What if i leave it in a halfway point like in a park. I want to be there before it gets delivered of other people stealing it. Okay i feel like the delivery part is but the thing is how do you get it to people like drop stuff off at my house. And that's just totally normal. I mean yeah. I mean i i mean i don't know i feel like cheating sometimes because then i want to stand six feet away and like actually a conversation Which is But but yeah. I kind of do it just to get out of the house. You're you're you're telling us that two hours. Nobody's doesn't scratch. The itch were human interaction. I mean you know it's a bitch if you have a question or the world of chain restaurants you meals a dope wars podcasts at g. millicom leaves waste mel eight three zero godo. That's eight three zero four six three six eight four four and get the dough. Boys double our weekly bonus. Episode joined the golden or platinum play club at patriot dot com slash dough. Boys leslie thank you so much for coming on the show. Long overdue a real delight. Please come back anything. You would like to plug a promoter this time. Oh yeah sure well. So i wrote a book called restart me up the unauthorized on accurate oral history of windows. Ninety five and you can get that on amazon. You can get that from me directly. Just contact me through my website or social media or something and Yeah no i mean like like if you want to see more of what i do. Remember awesome about getting but making a birthday cake. I'm not really sure about. I could defy stew that for rent and people now okay. Now i'm really just backtracking. I just i'm plugging that leslie. I just want to be clear. I said i want an ice cream cake for my birthday this year. So that kind of frosty lodged. Hey for this episode of doboy zone next time for this mitchell. I'm nick wider happy. Yeah swenson's on the next dope boys double. Let's get high buddy as turkey day looms on the horizon. The host of the weeden grub podcast. Mike glazer and mary. Jane gibson joined a talk all things. We didn't grub it's thanksgiving get the dough boys double every tuesday only at patriotair dot com slash dough. Boys sources for this week's intro are available the episode description. That was a hit gum podcast.

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"Three o'clock by the way got my first shot on saturday. So twenty eight days from now. I'll get a little sick and then i will be one hundred percent ready to go going anywhere. I want at any time including leaving the country. Which i'm planning on doing. So we talk about the bahamas. Stop going to costa rica. i would love to go to the bahamas hookup. You have a hookup for me. Do matter of fact is it cheap. Yeah i could probably arrange some you. Let me know if you serious. I'm dead cold series. Eighth of michael thompson boulevard. In the bahamas. Yeah i'll stay at the at the five star hotel michael thompson boulevard. All right so there was a piece on One of the pages that we read all the time five funniest tv characters of all time. I didn't like their list at all. So i decided lets us go ahead and put together our own list. I hate mates before you keep going. Let me give one breaking news do it. Yeah mark saul out tonight. For health and safety protocols interesting could be out. You know when when shooter had to go out for health and safety protocols. He missed a week so i would hope that marcus all i obviously hoped the best needs situations that maybe this is. A contact trace. Wouldn't be surprised if he's out tomorrow night as well and then hopefully over the week long. Break the all star. Break thing getting back damian jones. He looked the other niamey. Michael hurt at the end of the game. Is he available tonight. Oh so that way. They took him out. Yeah hurt his back. Oh he's young you'll bounce back but phoenix was a team that going to be in jail right so he he would have something to prove their base go ahead. Sorry okay five. Funniest tv characters of all time. Eight seven seven. Seven ten espn. John what is your list. All right number five and this is kind of cheating because she doesn't play just one character but anything with kate. Mckinnon it on. Yeah it's cheating can't do that. So if i see plays a whole bunch of character making them all right so number four and this is my salute to michael thompson. Red fox fred. Saying on sanford and say it's a great one. Yeah if you go back and watch. Michael occasionally we'll send me clips and it stuff that never today go. I mean some of the stuff. Unbelievable number four. Number three julia. Louis dreyfuss is selena. Meyer on veep. I will tell you right upfront. She is on my list yeah. I thought she was fantastic mace. I don't think you'll have number two number two. But i think you'll agree. This is one of the great characters of all time cat alec baldwin as jell donigi on thirty zero. Damn funny so damn funny. Yeah he would talk. I would laugh great character and my number one is very obvious or hey hit it okay. Fine i'm dan. Larry david from curb your enthusiasm hands down the funniest character ever television mace. That's it that's my okay. So i want a little bit different than you learn. David is obviously there. But instead i went leon from curb your enthusiasm okay. Great character just kills me. What does he number one on a five. I didn't put him in order number two again to thirty rock. But i'm going with tracy on thirty rock. Who is hilarious excellent choice. The character that The tracy morgan place. I've got selena from veep. I've got george costanza from seinfeld. And then i'm gonna go back and grab ted baxter from the mary tyler moore. He was good funny my surge to buy lists more iconic and historic bed. Okay got number five. Yup by the way i see but five joyce jefferson george jefferson. So damn funny number. Four and aunt esther got to see some clips. Larry number three larry. David larry wow michael. I think you'd have a number one number. Two is fred sanford. fred san number. One's gotta be archie bunker. Archie bunker is a great one. Oh man he was hilarious so stupid and such a big unbelievable. Yeah it's it's a tough list like. Oh yes objective. Everybody's listening to be different. Yeah of course but do you care here my list let me just mention eight. Seven seven seven ten. Espn you want to jump in on this Lindsay what is your list so my list is number. Five layer david number. Four kramer from seinfeld love framers. great number. Three is michael scott from the office because he just so so uncomfortable. It's he's great. I love him on number. Two is kenny powers from eastbound. And down. I don't know if you saw series hilarious and the number one for me was also leon black on there too. So leon is awesome. Leon his awesome betty but there michael. Un old school. Yeah i mean currently went to an old. I tell you what we should be on. We forgot to put on a mesa. Airland was Susie from curb all suny s mad her on his podcast right. Yeah yeah she was great as funny. I love chicago larry. She kills kind of goes after you guys well on that on that subject base. I can't remember if it was your guy. I think it was on your podcast. She told a story about how when she said. You're not being mean enough to jeff. You're mean enough to your husband. She got permission to be. He goes just for kicks. Be as mean as capable of and susie said by the way. I don't wanna make fun of someone. Wait larry go. We need you to enter. Goes and literally right after. Okay jet you fat. She calls you fat duck tape. She will say she'll say she's a great for best wet ever on the curb when the guys lost the of the doll issues. Y'all all hair. Yeah oh my goodness she had larry in jeff frozen and fear. She was custom so bad for. Hey were gone. Josh and inglewood josh route seventeen. Espn what's up. Hey you guys forgot chris. Pratt buying andy dwyer on parks and rec one of the funniest performances overall. Can i tell you. I have never seen parks and rec is it. You gotta watch it. It's also if you're going to go with an office character. It's gotta be creed. Bratton show underrated. You gotta look at the little nuances that he has throughout the so. Okay hey thanks for the Give that guy mason in ireland shirt. Stanley was the funniest to me on the office. Stanley's funny okay. I'm going to be honest. I have never seen an episode of the office. You go down the office rabbit hole like one day. If you're not feeling well and you start watching episodes. You'll watch like twenty of them. That show is so addicting. It's ridiculous and dwight troupe is running the great sitcom characters of all time. Apparently by the way there is a some statistics. Somebody has because the office i think is streaming on peacock on the new. Nbc thing that you've got to pay for everybody's got something you've got gotta pay for now but the single most streamed show during the pandemic has been the office. Everybody is either watching it or watching it again. Yeah it doesn't surprise me because you can watch it over and over again. It's like curb you can watch curb over and over again and you'll you'll laugh at stuff that you didn't notice the first time let's go to downey victor is on the line or what's up man. Hey you guys forgot one of the most iconic female comedians. at all. The time i love lucy lucille fault. You're you're listening awesome. But if it wasn't for lucille ball the leading ladies. That's a really good point. She was the first lady of comedy the first great female comic on television. That's a great call now. And if you go make a tease me for this. And you're gonna answer non garozzo comedy comedy. I watch these episode today even though there are one hundred years old. The honeymooners ralph honeymoon. Ralph oh yeah no. That's a great show. That's an example. Mace you were talking earlier in the show that dr seuss story. Yeah very frequently. Ralph kramden played by. Jackie gleason yup threatened to hit his wife alice in the face. All the title house right through the straight right to the and i'll put you right in the face and then you could never get that show still air somewhere yes. tv land you can find it. I think that shows still does air. Despite that i had no idea. That's where it's from. When i was a little kid. I do something bad. My dad would you want to go to the moon. I never knew what he was talking to. Honest with just look at them like year right because he knew that he was never going to do that. Now there is a statue actually saw bill. Maher talk about this. There's a ralph kramden statue at the transit center in times. Yeah and bill maher asked because of to the moon and all stuff if there would come a time when they would cancel ralph kramden. So far hasn't happened. Yeah but i mean they people talking about this other remember. There was a statue of kate. Smith the old singer outside philadelphia because she would sing. God bless america in before flyers games and they had an unbelievable record. It was like up. Mike owen jeffrey osborne saying the national anthem. It laker games during your showtime air. You guys are always good. Luck charm right well. Then later somebody found that in the twenty s or thirty she hits saying some offensive lyrics a song and they pulled the statue down. Yeah because it was the song of the time way back when ticketless see. I think you've got a frame history in its proper context. Exactly right. you've got to say at. The moment kate smith was doing that everybody was doing that. She is a product of her time. That's why this conversation about washington and lincoln. They were products of their time. If you hold them to that standard. It's impossible to hold anybody historically to that standard. Because everybody is a is a character in their time a person of their time. And if you don't view it in that context you're making a huge gamble everything. Yeah everything would be viewed as inappropriate. There are all kinds of movies that you would have to say can air that one again. Kanner that one again. That's where i think he gets out of control. Ever show django unchained again with the language in that movie. Yeah they're going to. You're absolutely right. If they want to cancel everything they should just burn that film right. Yeah see i think. Django unchained the n. Word offers many many many thousands of times aired anymore. Then if that's the case yeah. I think again all this idea. You gotta take lincoln's name off the high school or washington's name off the high school all that jazz the state's change the state name. Seattle george seattle. Whatever why would you change. Seattle's name because it takes you taken washington's name off things got to change to talk about the state. Oh i see what you're saying. Yeah changed the eight. The nation's capital you've got to take that off to a good question. Yeah i i tell you what coming up. I've got a really. This is a great question for you. Michael great question for you john. It's an mba question. Today is the fifty ninth anniversary of something amazing in the nba. We'll talk about that coming up next for you. I thank you very much for listening to thank you very much for being out there michael thompson hanging out with us today. Today marks the fifty ninth anniversary. You guys know what of fifty ninth anniversary in the nba. Today fifty nine years of. Let me think what's a year. I do the math. you can google it anyway. two thousand. it's fifty nine. I know i know what it is. Do you give me the here chamberlain scoring one hundred dollars yes. So here's the question which nba player today is most capable of scoring one hundred and is this an unbreakable record. It's not an unbreakable record. I was there the night. Kobe had eighty one. And i've been at games. Cobi at sixty and three quarters The guy who who. Michael i tell me if you agree i think the guy who's playing in the league today that could do. It is durant score inside and outside. Yeah he gets him. He'll make us free throws You gotta shoot at least thirty free throws out. Imagine close to it to get filed a lot You gotta get hot from three because obviously wilted have three point shots. So you'd have to have a really hot first half you gotta go. Like twenty-seven gas in the first quarter games got to be competitive. Yeah well stay. Because i would like to have seen that came. Wasn't i mean i michael. I don't remember that game at all. Obviously one way for me. The wilt chamberlain hundred point game. Yeah but was it competitive to the end or was it just. I'm going to get two hundred hundred. No matter york was getting blown out there in the game fifty and sixteen points. This is what what that was the story with. Kobe's game right. Clay had sixty and twenty nine minutes. If you would have played the fourth he might have pushed eighty. But you gotta have you gotta have a lease close to fifty at halftime. Yeah to get a shot at got come out in the third and get just think about. Let's say you have forty eight and a half guys the third you got to come out and have another twenty seven that put you up to around seventy something and then you gotta have another twenty eight twenty seven in the fourth it. Se- it seems to. I mean. I think it's probably an unbreakable kind of think. We're ever gonna see anybody score a hundred and someone who's guest the eighty. Let's say with ten minutes left in the game scored eighty year leading. Yeah probably comfortably right and you can't stay in a game. I don't think you can just stay in a game. They should continue scoring in a non-competitive devon booker. Seventy the devon booker. Was that game so competitive evan. Blow up the celtics are up by thirty or something like that. And they just kept giving. The bullet devon celtics giggling. And what was the guardian. Yeah it well. Didn't michael didn't lisa leslie miller hundred point lisa less scored one hundred points and a half. I still want to do that. There's not enough time six dollars under the other half and they didn't pay the second half. I don't wanna stand how she had time to score hundred and sixteen minutes. That's all high school game. That game one zero two to twenty four. How is that possible one. Oh tutu twenty. Four it didn't. I don't think they played the second half or something like that. It's just forfeit or whatever but ireland. You can't score that quick a pace can you at sixteen minutes. When cheryl miller one hundred her team won one seventy nine to fifteen yeah other other players have had one hundred points on the lakers. I think a guy and a small college at one hundred points in college game. they're not gonna division three game. Something like that. I googled my one wagner had one hundred and a high school. Yeah right exactly. He had one and that's thirty. Two minutes of play yeah. I don't think we'll see it. I don't think we'll see it ago because if you're not if if the game's not competitive it's just a bad look to be in the game and still trying to reach one hundred points although people fancily like if a guy on record pace a historic pace. They wanna see him. Stand a game and chase it. It might be an insult to the opponents. But hey if you're the opponent stopped a guy they'll let us stop them exactly. I cleveland indians Everybody knows the story of mickey callaway. the pitching who was Run out of new york because he would not let female reporters alone. He would text them. He was very persistent. Hornbeck for that though. Well you then. What was he. He i mean he was. He was fired because he was a bad manager. The stuff about him in the the women didn't come out until yeah way way later came out like a month month two months ago maybe about a month ago he was andrew cuomo wing the women. Yeah yeah about. But but i mean michael in an incredibly i mean. Far beyond anything he was a he was he was sending depict. So yeah And you know that doesn't fly in any way. Now he was with the indians and the indians said originally. They were unaware of any inappropriate behavior. While calloway was there. That's what chris and twenty a antonetti said. he's the indians president of baseball operations. Now it turns out based on an insider that Both antonetti and terry francona knew this was going on and did nothing about it This means that almost. Certainly i mean you guys may disagree but almost certainly you blow up the entire front office and terry francona fire to what depends wh- who the owner is lindsay. Who's the owner there. Paul dolan the worst owner in sports is he. Is he related to james dolan. Yes there it says uncle or brother. Yeah they're related. James stolen probably wouldn't fire member. James dolan kept isaiah thomas on after he lost an eleven million dollar right. We'll harassment suit like it really depends on what the owner standard of conduct is okay. But if this guy and it's it seems to be sourced by the athletic there signing unsolicited pornographic material to female reporters in women in the organization and the indians knew about it and covered it up. You almost have to get rid of those guys. How do your home or something like that. Up there's twenty two people who came forward after the original article about mckelway came out twenty and what complicates it. Go ahead lindsey. sorry. I said there's twenty two people that came forward and said not only. Did the indians know about it. But we have proof that we've communicated with them about it. That's where i was going to go the linchpin in this. Mace is that when the first athletic article came out. The indians responded to it by saying we had no knowledge of this yet. There were no complaints filed in our human resources department. And when mickey. Calloway who's here. We didn't know anything like this was going on. And after they said that after they lied about that twenty two people came out and said oh. They're just this clogged up lately false. We've all complained about him. He's the worst kept secret there. So it's you know it's the old watergate line. It's not the crime it's the cover up. Sure i think guys out to fire them. I think they're out. But you're not guessing fired for this season are you. I think they get fired. Seventy two hour. I in the next two weeks for sure i agree. This week's yeah i disagree. I think that they will. They will be given a chance to one of their own was sending unsolicited pornographic material to female reporters and they covered it up. They've got to go okay. So if the mets new and they covered it up. Do those guys have to go. All the men have a whole new regime. None of those guys. Are there any of those guys. Were there then. Well hold on. Andy alderson was there. I guess if sandy alderson new if it's proven that sandy alderson new yes. I mean there's documented who hired him. Well they hired him in and he's gone well he's he's he's still suspended having we'll be gone right. Yeah so the angels did the right thing. Companies would do what you're suggesting most companies would say if you knew about it and you covered it up. You're out but sports are different. Sports our world. Where if you can throw one hundred miles an hour. S roberto as soon though teams a. Look the other way but there. There are badly coach badly. Put together team. That is going nowhere anytime soon. They're in a cellar mode. It's not as though we're firing these these guys who are bringing us to the promised land. The indians are a last placed team going absolutely nowhere that there's no reason not place team that are act going absolutely nowhere. That's a little harsh. They're going nowhere you have. They didn't last last year. Did that people that are picking them to win the division. All they do is sell every time they get a player there a seller so does most small market teams. That's what they do because they say that they can't compete. But i think important question here is what does this do with terry francona. Like what does this say about him like. He's he's a god in cleveland and he's the hall of fame right and he's never won anything but he's still for whatever reason he's a god in cleveland. Was you won. Three world series or two world series in boston. Hasn't won anything here though. So i don't think that lindsay wasn't he the manager of the year they lost to the cubs in seven games. Yeah the that. They lost him down to the last inning of the last game. Lost the last eight playoff series. They haven't won anything with him. As their manager period the almost won the world. let me make a correction. You're you're right. Lindsay the prokhoda kota projects. Them's have the indians with eighty. Six wins behind the twins. The twins are favored to win the division. The indians with eighty six wins. Third behind the white sox. Okay but they're not a last place team not a last place team correct. I miss. i didn't have that right attack. In cleveland it's lindsay's hometown. She's broadcasting from cleveland. Jim friday arguing that these guys should be fired. I think they should absolutely be fires. They aided abetted right. Yeah they they covered it up. They knew it going on and they did nothing. They're going to be fired. Joe go one step further. They're going to be fired whether they probably should. But if i mean you can tell me whether you disagree. This story isn't a surprise to any female reporter. I know they. They've been this stuff like this has been going on in most clubhouses for years. Sure but the fact that the dna went out of their way to deny it they held a press conference after that story came out just to address this and frank or antonetti went up there and stood up there and said we never had a complaint to hr. We never had a complaint which the indians lawyers spoke with one of these women's husbands because he was so adamant about making sure something got done about this and he filed a complaint with major league baseball and nobody did anything about it so for them to go up there and say nothing happened and that there. Is you know emails or phone. Call saying mickey just warrants. This go away like you know of a teen lawyer saying that. I think that's pretty egregious. Yeah i don't think. I don't think those guys survive. I think it'll be like mickey callaway. With the angels. They will be suspended. There will be two weeks or three weeks or a month or six weeks of investigation. Then they'll be gone. You can't keep you can't keep people that cover that off. Still in the organization mates. I'll just say this after zia. Thomas was found guilty. Yeah i know of sexual harassment and lost in eleven million dollar lawsuit. So he he. He was still employed by the knicks the entire time. He was on trial after he lost the trial after james stolen refused to fire him over that but that was before the metoo movement that was before women began to stand up and say look. This is what's going on. This is the way the world is and we will not stand for it. It was before that if they isaiah thomas thing had been free if it would have happened two weeks ago it would have been a much different. I strongly believe that stance on on the world series and whether or not guys should get in with the moral clause. Do you think that terry francona. Obviously this seems to be the case that he helped for this up. You think that his hall of fame status. Okay i will. We'll talk about that coming up next for mason and ireland seven ten. Espn all right. Let me tell you about power pro plumbing. Times are tough but getting your service whether it's plumbing heating or air doesn't have to be power. Pro has a series of fifty nine dollars specials. Think about that last time you had to hire a plumber. Fifty nine bucks. You won't see that anywhere. That's how power pro roles they also want to keep you safe. Safety inspections included with all services. These guys are my plumber and they wanna be yours too powerful professional affordable. It's in their name. Great people great service with a great attitude. No extra charge for nights weekends or holidays and they're usually in ratty within forty five minutes for emergencies. Here's the number put this down. Keep it in your phone. Eight hundred five eight four four one one six eight hundred five eight four four one one six or visit their website at power pro plumbing dot com. I got games coming up for a couple minutes. After that four game losing streak which included that blowout loss to the utah jazz. The lakers still have the best defensive rating in the league. It will be tested tonight against inex- sons who've got Chris paul who's playing really well right now. Obviously devon booker and deondraye eight and that is a really good roster and monty. Williams has been really. I mean probably a coach of the year candidate if not the coach of the year right. Oh yeah and they were the hottest team in the nba in february along with utah they were twelve and three. In february devon booker today was named the nba player of the month. Western conference player of the month may may do you know what the spread is in this game tonight. I don't you. i do okay. Lakers going to guess lakers minus three and a half one one. That's how good this game figures to one. Yeah giving me two thousand dollars on the lakers minus the one. That is no help from door who has gone silent. Oh gee shocking door has gone silent. Yeah it's because you were busy this weekend. The the engineer. Michael can't even bet as a joke. No games. yeah. But i would never up game. That close spread that close. I would never do what you just did. That means like one guy could throw up but three pointer at the end. It just break your wreck. Your whole gang's on it's called mythical money it's not a real money exactly but i'm betting my real money by the way i lost three hundred dollars. I closed the account and curacao. Okay would you lose on. I lost on the lakers twice. Now lost on the super bowl okay and that was good this holding lift three hundred dollars. It's good discipline to close the account. Yeah i'm like no more no moss to learn. It's your game today right. It is my game okay. That's a good one. Yeah but this is going to be the last time. Well i'll be here tomorrow too but you know this is your opportunity. You've never won a month of game games as either in me or lindsey every month correct you one january and february you on six months in a row john. I think there one month in there that lindsay broke it up. Oh no lindsey as one twice but you on six months or lindsey one early you want a total of eight months lindsay onto. It's my game tomorrow. Yeah michael mike. Three choices and lindsay will make the choice micro. I want you to close your computer for this game coming up. You're accused of computer data down. I i didn't she lives. He found me innocent. Yeah but you found you not guilty. Lindsay's not here. Let's see let's facts. Yeah michael ascher were you allow bronstein or whore. Hey to turn off your computer for game a game. I'm offended. you still trust me. Right on untrustworthy again. Will you allow them to turn off. Because no because. I refuse to be offended that way. Okay charged with cheating. But i was found guilty. You're acquitted secure like the astros. We all know you did it. No we all you know you not admit to something. I did not do all right. All right. Coming up next for you is game of games. It's my game today. Mason ireland seven ten. Espn game of games time. It is sponsored today by power pro plumbing and heating. We thank them powerful professional affordable to they are. It's in their name. They are our plumber and they wanna be yours to call one eight hundred five eight four forty one sixteen and it is my game today so far in the month of march ireland is one twice. Lindsay has one once. We started the month early because ireland basically put us away in the month of february so the game today is called the birthday game. I will give you a fact about someone solar celebrating their birthday this month. You tell me if it's real or if it is made up. Bs right so ireland. Exactly fifty fifty shot ireland. You can play obviously mt lindsay and hor. Hey are we re so. Are you looking for the answer. You're looking for is a name of a person. No no no. I'm going to give you the person and tell you a fact about them. You tell me if it's real or if it's made up got it former new york city. Mayor michael bloomberg turned seventy nine this month. He's worth fifty four billion dollars which is amazing considering that he was born in staten island. Father that worked as a machinist and a mother. The work in sewing factory that factors that fiction ireland That's fact fact michael thompson fact fact lindsay. I'm gonna say fact. Fact jorges fact because michael google did you guys are totally wrong. I at entire story doing of cannot born in staten island at all right so nobody on the board twenty two year old tiktok star teddy. The shot is best known for his noon. Challenge where he does. A shot of a different day encourages his followers to do the same thing. Is that real or did i make that up. Michael fiction fiction. Lindsay fact fact horror fiction fiction ireland fact that it is totally made up. Bs there is no such tiktok. Star is teddy the shot. So it's michael jorges to nobody else. Everybody missed the first. We got to got to one. Horace going all right here. We go simpsons creator. Matt groening turned sixty seven this when creating his legendary animated tv family. He chose the real names of his parents in his actual sisters is that real or is that made up lindsay felt like that's a real real fact real ireland. I think it's real real. Michael is this simpson's i think. Oh yeah. I was thinking of a window south park. I'm gonna go real fact fact. It is fact yeah. His dad's name is homer and his mom's name is marge the sisters or his actual sister's name so everybody was on to that one all right just in the super bowl. Halftime show turns thirty one this month. The weekends parents maccagnan in somera immigrated to canada from ethiopia. Is that real or is that made up. I'll say fact fact ireland. i think that's true. Fact fact michael yeah. The emigrated from african country. So you're going to go fact fact and lindsay his real name is abraham and lindsay or his name is able maccagnan is stayed immigrate from ethiopia. Right so everybody got that one. It's michael three jorges. Hey three ireland to lindsey to rap legend and law and order star ice tea. Turn sixty three this month in the one thousand nine hundred five box office bomb called tank girl. He played a kangaroo. Ireland is that real or is that made up made up. Fake made up michael fixing fiction. Linzie real real whore hitchin. It is one hundred percent real. He did play a kangaroo and tank girl back in nineteen ninety. Five is weird as that may sound. So it is whore. Hey three lindsay. Three michael thompson three in ireland to who is coming from behind okay. Green day lead singer. Billie joe armstrong turns forty nine. This week. he met co bandleader. Mike durant at the apollo theater. Where i'm sorry daren't at the apollo theater where daren't was working as a sound engineer for baby face is that real resent made up michael thompson fiction fiction lindsay fiction fiction real real ireland. I need of. I need a win. So i'll go real. Nope totally made up mike. Dirt and billie joe armstrong when they were in highschool squirm demand. All the way back then to left. Let's go into that paulo. Linear michael johnson. Both have four island. Doesn't know what the apollo is not. Actually this is the last one. There will be a tiebreaker. But here we go film director. Michael bay director of movies like pearl harbor armageddon and transformers turns fifty six this month. He attended wesleyan university in connecticut. Where famous loans include lin. Manuel miranda and bill belichick. Is that factories at fiction. Michael and lindsay. You've got to go first since leading ladies first gonna fact fact michael thompson fiction fiction ireland. Well that case me out of it. Because they i'm gonna go fact fact and horray. Hey i'll go fact fact. It is an absolute fact like away winter. Wesleyan lin manuel. Miranda went to westland bill. Belichick went to westland some very famous alums. That means lindsay wins the game today. She's now one weiss in the month of march gonna win march street. Lindsay is lindsay is rolling to lindsay. Hot i'm sure you've heard guy before. Let's do the tiber just for fun. Ready tiebreaker just for five galileo known as the father of modern science. He's the guy who invented the telescope among many other things. His birthday was february fifteenth. What year was he born. No googling michael what year was he born Start with you ireland. Come to closest to it right. Yeah closest to it. I will just guess. Sixteen hundred sixteen hundred says ireland michael fifteen sixty four. You are just a jerk. Told you i told i told you are just it on the news. Such of not cow. Galileo and only astronomers tapes. Four right off the top of your yes. this is about. Astronomy is one of my hobbies. Do google that. He pretty quick didn't major major stretch classes. I took a lot of classes and straw. Candle michael company george coming here. Look you'll see. I haven't talked to my computer history now. You know the game. I knew i knew he was born in fifty six. When did he die within three seconds. Answer this okay. When was copernicus born copernicus the other astronomer famous your head fifteen forty four fourteen seven win is isaac newton born. Who's another one to three. Couldn't get you tackle gorn. Hubble bubble was born in the eighteen hundreds eighteen ninety two eight hundred eighty nine c. Stuff man you actually. Don't you actually did. Just strana me tonight. The latest will turn the sons into a into a white to off. Hey this is ours will come out tonight. Were coming up with a white dwarf is mace i do. It is a planet that Not a planet asteroid or a sub plant is a As a star star the sun out with the sun was going to become a white dwarf often going to be exhausted nuclear fuel and five billion years the sun will become a white dwarf which will be the size of the earth so it is a burnt out star star. yes expanded. It's google that by the way i do. What is a white dwarf. And that's what came up by the way speaking about the nba. What's going on the all star game. Ireland mason and lindsey our out of the car test zion miles bridge just anthony edwards jalen brown in. Okay i dunno test you on this to see if you can get it in the dunk on team. These guys play for ireland. You go last in case get. Ob topping i know. Oh yeah oh top. We played most dope. He's he's in the gic. Nope george indiana. He's a nick. Cashier steadily ever heard of him. Oh yeah cashiers. We'll see play for. He plays for indiana very good. That's right and and simon so we play for lindsay. No clue mace. You know this he was just here he was just here. He plays for utah. Yes nope george. We played anthony. Anthony simon's western conference team portland. What those guys are in the dunk out this but none of the big stars wanna do it. You know what they need to do guys they listen. Listen to me up the prize. Money to one million dollars to the winners. Not a bad idea. Half goes to the charity half goes to the guy not a bad idea. That is the end of the show. Don't forget coming up next for you is sodano and then lakers pre-game mason ireland seven ten espn.

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You know my my track coach. Who is also. The athletic director in high school was the one that would drive the bus. Which i always thought was interesting like there were some triple rat race. Yeah he was a jack of all. I am also had. He also the jose. Oh kendall threat to drive around with a tractor and we always kind of wonder like what is he doing. And how did he get them to buy him a tractor that he's driving around like the field but he was always up to something is always up to something. A jack of all trades you kind of fixed and do it all. I feel like a good A good run of the tractor could be very very relaxing. You know you gotta have a piece of wheat hanging out of your at your mouth. The right hat on right. If you're not doing anything just driving around. It feels like a good feeling like yes. I'm just kind driving around the tractor. Getting ready to land georgia's plan those davey. We rarely agree on anything. I'm glad we all agree on the long case of week out of your mouth if we not available a long strand. Hey right yes. He also teach us to tell time if we didn't have a watch on the sun and showed us like a hand thing they need you to the sunday. Yeah i was kinda like by. Feel like i wasn't getting it because he was always close to right but i was like i just feel like i can put my hands anyway just kind of guests more or less time so like i know one time we got here so i have a general idea how long we've been here. I could figure it out more or less. Have a sundial in his backyard. I don't know i've never been to his house. You know what he is greg. He's a jack of all trades was while he still is still with us trader. Jack all. I'm sorry i kill them. No no no no. I said he was a fine man. Can do it all greg. I couldn't see you driving a charter bus though. No it's not even a charter. Bus school bus no i. That's what i'm saying. I i a difference short distances. For greg i think yeah i'm not into Being a greyhound pilot for example. I I want a school bus or bus can be one of those two. I was gonna say could see your in your older years driving school bus kind of like a retirement gig but yeah i i like. We're kinda getting there though. No found also be the guy Bagging groceries and publix and five years. Really yeah little chitchat. Small talk. I probably would be a small type guy. Yeah what would you. What would you lie and be. Let's say i'm going out with like some eggs. Vitamins milk anna loaf of bread. Would you say to me here. Eating healthy young about that. And then if somebody is buying you know to twelve packs it'd be like an party time a your house. My right right. you're taking the. You're taking their bags out to their car regardless of whether they want to or not at least i know i would right because then you're forcing them to make a decision on tip. You know right right well you know. Unfortunately they make me wear that little pin that says no no tipping please right sticker over the no on that and just tipping please or i scratch out the no. Isn't that what he said. Adding grocery store worker like the person that i put all my items on the conveyor belt. And they're like. Oh you're having italian tonight It's like don't test what. I'm having for dinner parties at your house today. Couple of twelve packs like oh party tonight. It's like your dad what you just described as don't don't make an assessment on what i'm doing this evening. Based on my grocery selection direction know catchers public required to ask. Did you find everything you need it. And i'm kinda guy who literally answers them. And i'm like no. I was looking for frozen lima beans needed and have any and they never want to hear that. Response yet voted years not in charge of the lima beans thing. Nothing worse. well. I guess there's worse things but for the sake of the expression nothing worse when they move. Things are in the grocery store. says we don't need to reinvent the wheel we don't need to reorganize the store for whatever the i know where everything is. I'm here all the time. Let's just keep things where they go yankee. S why isn't there a template for public. Says i feel like every public says like daily over here and the over there and then meet over there. Like shouldn't every one of them be the same my bearings. Every time i go to a new public. That's happened to me. Sometimes that either like a target or a walmart where sometimes it's like the inverse of the opposite one and it's like well wait a minute. Hold on how are we doing everything. The exact same way but almost in a mirror from this other store like i'm completely threw up and you'd think i'd know are i will instead of one to the right. It's now one aisle to the left but no it completely throws my brain off and i can't figure it out. I just walk around. also. I don't know what it is. A go into one of those big stores just have to stroll around. See what there is. Even if i know what. I'm want even if i know i'm just gonna go in for one or two things i also just. I always have to go by the electronics. Check out to see what's going on with the tv's. I'm not buying a tv. I have a tv. I'm not getting any of that stuff. Need to see need to see what new movies are out on. Dvd have about a dvd and ten years. But i wanna see what's out there were books are new recommended by you. Know sam walton. Whoever it is that recommends the books at walmart gotta check all that stuff out a favorite store. Take a around my new favorite store. I don't really get much. They have a trader. Jack's become one of my favorite storage. That's trader joe's think jack mckean's a supermarket chain. I mean by the way would it kill them to have a name brand anything like after figure out what everything is because everything is joe's this joe's that and everything has a cute little kitschy name and like can we just like. Where's the coke. Where's the pepsi like. And you just tell me where. The things that i know are we. Don't need new names for everything. All right let's put all of these things on. The poll plays charge. Would it wild trader. Jacks would've killed trader. Jacks to have a name brand anything. Do you have to get your bearings every time you go in to a new publix. Do you have to stroll around any big store. You walk into force and does it enrage you that the grocery clerk is making an assessment about your party weekend based on the amount of beer in your cart all of it at show gregor you ready to do a back in my day. You do not seem confident in your back in my day. It is rare. Should we do a back in my day. Where greg cody is not confident. Because he is saying publicly. Doesn't do this very often. I'm not feeling good about what i have to do here. Those tend to be the best was he likes to set the bar very very low so he can exceed it. So i love when greg says i know you hate it. I love it because those tend to be the one. I don't feel like we've ever had success here if greg greg thinks it's bad it's going to be bad. Probably we've actually had some success. And sue guides to the the scots thing where he makes one the new rule so we wanna talk about adnan. Virk debut. I don't know how he did last night. He very quietly ended up very quickly ended up all of a sudden a big giant name in wrestling announcing this kind of appeared out of nowhere did not. This is a surprise. You get to metal arc media then a couple of days later. Boom your profile increases this dream come true job for adnan virk yes. Let's go ahead and take all the credit for success. That happened quickly. Well i mean listen. It was on the heels of him. Doing party was on the heels of him. You know being announced on southbound possessions that is now a member of metalwork media. I mean we are stepping stones. And that's what you have become. We are stepping stones for greater Greater careers what mental arc is here for. We are here to elevate anyone who joins us so tell the people mike were able to watch any of this. How do receive. I watched raw while received the internet wrestling community is very difficult but i did watch with the sound on which is not something i ever do to to to root for our guy adnan and a for first crack that. That's a very difficult job. They just throw them with two people that he's never worked with before polished professionals but this is the first time he's calling wrestling at that level and it's the first time he's working with these people at that level on live programming no less. So it's a very difficult job the feedback. I saw a lot of people willing to give him a chance as a lot of people happy because they remember him from espn or and be network. And i saw a lot of people that were upset that he replaced the guy that was doing it before who is also good at it. So you'll like anything you have to give it time. And that's not necessarily what the internet wrestling community is known for. I'm wondering. Is this like a situation. Because stephen is breaking things down. Dan is just the voice. The community was not happy. When stephen as started analyzing ufc fights are is the wrestling community. Not happy simply because they're comfortable with their voice. They don't like god if realize wrestling community. Was that passionate about who called the wrestling gonna be doing analysis but one of the i can imagine one of the criticisms before it's even started is. He is a polish professional broadcaster. And my guess is sight unseen people. Want extra enthusiasm okay him. He's got the enthusiasm. I think the feedback. Some people really liked his enthusiasm whereas the guy before gone up through the ranks and his calling out doesn't know everybody's move right. He's gonna be reacting but they have. They've already done a pretty good job. In letting the analysis the color commentary guys come in and actually call the move said so i think they're going to find their voice rather quickly. The interesting part about the wrestling. Play by play. Job is that it's not really about play by plates about pushing the story for right. It's not about like the technical aspects of it are somewhat important and fans like to hear that you know all the moves but it's more about you are you are responsible for pushing the story. It's interesting because mike. And i were comparing notes off of wrestlemainia. He has a different experience being in the stadium and not being able to hear the commentators than i do at home with their constantly pushing the narrative the story of what's going on they have their buzzwords and it's a very difficult job that add an disagreed to because i do like to get feedback as you're talking live and that voice on the other. End is vincent mcmahon with a very particular idea of how he wants the messaging to go. He's basically shadow calling. The events live at they. Call it the gorilla position into your headphones live. So it's very intimidating. And i don't envy the job. It's a very tall order. I look forward to talking to adnan about that job. And i look forward to infiltrating his broadcast with once he gets better at it with listener phrases. There was a hint of that. And i'm curious. Edmonds is going to be joining us on thursdays flying back from. Wwe thunderdome right now. And i heard a collision course and some little breadcrumbs. It could just be part of his normal vernacular. But i'm excited. There are possibilities. Although like i said vince mcmahon is in his ear the entire time. It's going to be hard to get these by him. Did you guys hear what he said. Hey guys it's billy thou his weird. That is not a real thing witty. Can you paint the picture of what it looked like. When you and mike were comparing notes. Yeah i had my. I had my legal pad. Log is yellow pages and I had a comprehensive breakdown in my thoughts on bad bunnies technique. We did the canadian destroyer. Him i mean that was extraordinary. Luckily for you. He backed everything up. Even though it was analog with carbon paper so he'll have not pass them around. When you get back a couple of dorks cutting it up. I want to ask the group here. Because chris wittingham if you do. Not know is a broadcaster. Extraordinaire he as a prodigy around here. Chris cody clearly threatened by him because wittingham is a professional broadcaster and he is doing a bunch of mls games this week. He is vastly overqualified to be spending any time in the shipping container. Because he is a He is somebody who is a broadcaster in front of the camera and he is lending his time doors to help us. Because we're leaking every of the pirate ship. Can we infiltrate his mls broadcasts with any phrases or is he too young in his career right now so that should wittingham. To god's be gentle here be honest with someone who cares about wittingham in his career. We don't wanna sabotage. What are you giving me the matombo finger for billy. Because i'm going to tell you what he's afraid to tell you because we had this conversation off air last week ra like how long is it going to be. The end starts asking wittingham to be doing things in a broadcast and put his career in jeopardy. And i don't want to betray any confidences. But i'll just say one broadcast around the conversations like not sure how comfortable i'd be doing that i'm going to be able to do that. We'll mention any names. I'd say maybe maybe let's leave him alone for a little bit and then when he gets to like monday night football you come back and you're like all right. You owe us one now. I'm a little offended someone who is also doing games. I'm doing of across games. No one's asking me to we show terms the games. What's strangest jellison real. I feel left out. A real tree falls in the forest type situation. Gad's when you call them lacrosse. At twelve o'clock noon on a thursday on big ten network i want to toss into the mawes of stugatz. And greg cody a football question from yesterday as it appears that julian edelman is retiring. I know there was a brief moment. There where people saw that the patriots had released him and immediately assume. Wait a minute. Scott miller's job is in jeopardy in tampa assume he's going to end up there immediately but it turns out that it's just paperwork and element is retiring. I still think you'll figure out a way to be playing with brady. And tampa bay neck sees all right again. We'll put it on. The poll will edmund figure out a way to be on grunk shoulders by the time. Tampa bay takes. Its first snap next member. Gronk was retired two guys but let me ask. Let me ask before. I ask you guys whether or not eshelman will be back. We stu gods is giving you the opinion that he will be tampa bay buc next year. Yes or no. Julian edelman is a hall of famous. I'm so happy we're having this discussion thing. Yes okay. I got my notes. Carbon paper backed up. What are you got your. I know i've got what i feel. Like is is the best notes. I don't feel like anyone's got better notes than me. But let's see if someone steals these notes from me which are stolen from somewhere else. What do you have. Stu gods yes or no hall of famer No sniff test. No wow. that's it okay. Very quick. I'm glad you didn't elaborate. Actually makes us go through this quicker without less painful analysis from you on element. Greg cody are you a hall of fame voter. I am not in if i were. There's no way in hell on voting for julian edelman. You know he. He was elevated by his proximity to brady other than that. I think he's had a pretty much average career. I don't have a stats in front of me in all fairness average. I wouldn't say i wouldn't say it was an says. No an average career is probably a bit harsh. She did not have an average career. All debatable All right put it on the poll. Guillermo did julian edelman have an average career. Guys gotta be shitting me mike. What are your not on this subject. I would like to outsource my note to add five. Six one underscore kev. Santana's three thousand more yards than thirty more touchdowns than julian edelman. Moss's never ever been considered a hall of fame finalist. This julian edelman talk is absurd. Warren sharp of sharp football says love julian edelman but compare his career. To hines ward. Who can't make the final ballot and hall of fame voting. The last five years catches hines has a thousand. Julian has six hundred twenty yards. Hines has twelve thousand. Julian has fewer than seven thousand. Td's hind has eighty six. Julian has thirty six super bowl. Mvp they both have one pro. Bowls hines has four. Julian edelman has zero so if toward is not a hall of famer julian edelman cannot be a hall of famer. There's only two words as to why julian edelman is even inconsideration amongst boston. Fan be the hall of famer. They are talk barney trophy. Tom brady throw it in your throw. It in your mls broadcast white guy. These show in free time for some ads. Hey let's take a minute for our friends over at advance auto parts. They are our fred's they support us. We ask you that you support. 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What would they have to give up to get the number four. Now meet falcons right. Well it sort of depends on if there's an auction for four to get a quarterback right like what if someone is enamored with fields like speaking of the patriots. I think like it. It's been rumored that the patriots really unjust in fields. How far upper they're going to have to go. Because even after san francisco presumably takes mack jones at three they're still two quarterbacks either trae lancer justin field kind of you can have an auction for which i think is why the dolphins got up to six in case there. Spot is the one where that auction tastes takes. Place stugotz doesn't trust kyle shanahan. Why don't you trust kyle. Shanahan stu got wolkanczik kyle. Shanahan is walking around telling everyone. I'm telling you this is what's happening that he loves that jones. The alabama quarterback. I don't think he likes them at all. I i think it's a total smokescreen. I think what shanahan is doing there is. He is giving you the appearance that he loves. Jones the quarterback from alabama so people will trade up because of shanahan says. Hey this quarterbacks going to be great teams are going to be willing to trade anything. They can to go up and get the quarterback that he deems that's going to be you know the next big thing in the nfl. As i think it's a smokescreen to acquire more pigs. I think he's totally fine. Moving down a little bit in the first round and take a trae lancer ticky. Justin feels that is not a coach. I trust if you trust them. That's on you. I would not. That's my advice to everyone out there. What he says something. It means exactly the opposite guillermo. Put it on the poll. Trust kyle shanahan. Is that on you. Greg cody was delighted. By the phrase smokescreen. He was radiant. Looked hose coil. He was nodding his head vigorously as the mom and always sunny and he was red-faced and just delighted with the idea of a smokescreen. Why am i like in appearance to an aging woman. I don't quite get that haircut aging man. Yes you know. It's your hair cut. And i believe that we have photographic proof i believe juju on our social media accounts his put that out there but i was just reading from some stats on twitter. You guys realize that. Three point three percent of the population. Roughly is on twitter. Only seven percent of the population is on twitter. And then half of it never says anything so you got basically three and a half of the popular three and a half percent of the population that is in anywhere in the world is on twitter which means that you're just hearing from the same three percent of the time that's for the united states which i also believe half the accounts that are actually speaking half of that half or just russian bonds turkish soccer fans that are doing photo shots of callers center. And the people you're hearing from the people you've chosen to hear from more than likely think exactly the same way you do so really. Twitter doesn't offer you any source of anything other than what you kinda wanna hear already. I've we all every election cycle every two years. We find out Well twitter had me confu. Who's our world was very small. I wanted to talk to you guys about something. That is being devalued here before we get to the greg cody back in my day that he has no confidence in. We've talked before around here. How quickly in the last twenty years baseball has changed in a number of different ways. Not the least of which is to. God's is it even possible. Honest to god in twenty twenty one. Is it possible for anybody in baseball to do anything. That would allow them to occupy space in the american public consciousness. That felt like derek jeter. Is it possible. is there anything at all. That could possibly happen in baseball personality. Type team position. Anything that would give someone. The mythical stardom of lemme long for the day of joe dimaggio a pinstriped hero at shortstop derrick. Jeeter is that even possible today. i don't think it's possible certainly not with performance. It would have to be because you have my trap pretty good numbers that we've never seen before. No one cares about them. It would have to be someone who of transcends the sport and doesn't stuff off the field. I don't think it's. I don't think people care enough about baseball so in keeping with that. What's happened over the last two decades. What you had devalued is one of the many things the no hitter. Basically that used to be a no hitter was thrown in baseball. Twenty thirty years ago it. Stop everything you're doing tune into the game in the ninth inning. That's not what's happening anymore. tune into the game night. Then it would also lead sportscenter no matter what else happened in sports or no hitter with lino. We're the games in the eighth inning. If somebody was throwing a no hitter does a player in baseball. I know this might sound like a strange question. Even really need to go out and like transcend sports because the contracts now are so much were just want like mike trout. Who doesn't have to do anything doesn't have to be known by anyone. He a ton of money doesn't need to make any effort in getting people to know him and he's good for life like if you don't desire align light why do they need to be part of the rest of modern culture. Oh i'm just asking if baseball can produce an icon. Today is all i'm asking. I'm not saying it's too bad gig to be lynn door or tat teased trout guaranteed three hundred forty million for the rest of your life and be anonymous. I'm just asking if baseball can have that place in anybody's consciousness today to turn somebody into a legitimate star that makes them an american icon the way across generation. The guys in our lifetime. Billy are jeeter and their brady and lebron. You know who they are. They're just the guys who get to be the and michael jordan. That's it mean. Billy going back to the eighties either. Stand this way. Bob's in tony. Gwynn were big the damn reno. It just was like the sport was more popular back then. That baseball players were really the stores of all sports. Now it's football players and basketball players but baseball players were by far the most popular athletes at one time. I guess my question more though is like is a baseball player even wanna be an icon like what. What would they get out of that but the contracts being what they are. What's the point. So would you want to be derek. Jeter is what. Billy is asking there because that speaks to what is going to feel like a bygone time. I would assume that anybody would want to be instead of anonymous. If you're if you're looking at what's happening with children today where instead of being doctors and lawyers what they want to actually be vloggers and youtubers and influencers. Like if if that's i don't know who you're speaking to billy whether own fear of you know what i'd rather just make money. Nobody ever looks at me. I don't know why. I think most people listening to this or saying what you talking about. Of course i'd love to be jeeter. I i thing though is like kids now bloggers and famous and rich and this and that that's how they see celebrities they're like youtubers and tiktok than his unruly old. Saying this birdie made it in the sport and you've got in the money which is what kids want or whatever like is the celebrity really worth it like. What is the headache worth for a mike trout. And that's what. Yeah it's a good idea to transcend to be an icon baseball. I think you have to do stuff and be willing to say stuff that impacts things off the field and if you're stanton if you're one of those trout you have three hundred and thirty guaranteed dollars. Why would you say anything little rest of your life. Happy and imagine. What are you talking about what jeeter ever say. He became an out saying anything ever like. What are you talking about. Yeah but now see. That's at a time. We're baseball was more popular. Where people cared more about baseball. Now if you want to be derek. Jeeter cared about that way. I don't think it's possible would just on field performance. Don't jeeter was jeter in new york in in yankee pinstripes. If jerry geeta was playing his whole career in milwaukee he wouldn't be the derrick. Jeeter that We know them today. You can't be that kind of icon if you say stuff stugatz. It's the exact opposite. All of the guys were talking about tiger wood. Tom brady derek. Jeter michael jordan never said anything. Not a one of them. That's the only way to become an icon to billy's point. I remember talking to your beloved saco about that billy. He'd so desperately wanted to be rich without the fame. He was always lamenting in a way. That was yes seriously yes. He was always lamenting. Why can't i just be a doctor. Who makes a lot of money and nobody knows him. While dating madonna yes while having photographs. Don't believe i'm sure. I'm jose promising you that he said that. It's hard to believe foot alien. Jose can go with the goat's in the back of this in the missing chandelier didn't wanna be famous. This correct. yes. But where i was leading us before we get to the back in my day is when a lost the finger that's correct lost the finger at a poker fake fight because his brother one instead of him purple speedo on the surreal life. Yes he wore a purple speedo. On the surreal. Life did not want be famous. He wanted to just be a rich doctor. He said but the thing that i wanted to ask you about was the specific is dr kent seko. Sorry dr kent saco now on nine. Shut it off. Fine you'll be fine. Takes the devalued maybe not advil. I got something. I can fix that. Fix the devalued. No hitter the thing. That i wanted to talk about with joe musgrove of the padres throwing the first no hitter in padres history. The last the last team did not have a no hitter. I thought the mets didn't have one. But evidently i forgot the johan santana one that wrecked his arm and his career and his future. He threw one hundred and eighty pitch. Joe moscow. I was gonna say a real fun game would be. Mike tries to name anyone. That's thrown a no hitter in the last four years and I'm going joe. Moss groped in okay. So let's see if you can get that list together and i will read it to the audience. If someone else data we will play that game. But the thing that i wanted to talk about with you guys for two days as it regards joe musco because i don't think this was a pleasant experience for him throwing the no hitter and before you think that's a crazy take it's because superstitiously he had to pee from the fourth inning on that was a heroic performance we just saw and no one's paying attention to it. Because it's a padre on the west coast that too went through five superstitious innings of needing the p and the celebration afterward without going to the bathroom. And i believe it to be the biggest heroic performance since curt schilling bloody sock game in baseball. Do you guys you guys know how hard it is to hold it for many many innings. What are you shaking your head about billy. Because he had to. That's right and you think this is unpleasant for. He grew up padres fan. He threw the first no hitter. Padres history you think that he would take it back to supe- peeing not needing to p for five innings i- maintaining in baseball slow as baseball is unbearable. I think it's an amazing feat. I'm with you did. They should upgrade it to a perfect game. They should put it on the poll. Guillermo should the no hitter be upgraded to a perfect game because the pitcher had to pee for five innings and held it time. Now for greg. Cody's back in my day and now in these to take a trip down memory lane. Here's your guy. Could he with back in my day. Golf so inspired by masters week. I'm playing golf on saturday. When all once i hear loud music. That'd be loud because it sounds far away yet is so audible. I can make out. It's kenny chesney. Is it coming from one of the townhouses or high rise apartments ringing. The course no then i realized the sound is coming from one of the golf carts in the force him about one hundred yards in front of us. What the nobody has a boombox anymore. So it must be a bluetooth speaker blasting or something like that breach of golfing decorum. I shot at the top of my loan at all. I can hear his chesney yodeling about some beach in mexico who plays music on a golf course just about everybody. My age. Christopher informed me christ gulf used to be the church of sports you could count on the tranquility and quiet. The symphony of golf is in the small. Sounds the muted golf clap. The plastic click of ball dropping in cup. When i'm playing golf. The only sound i want to hear a birds chirping and christopher saying nice shot dead which i never here because when my annual birdie. Putt he's on the phone checking stocks or listening to earbuds that guy with the loud music in his car. He was one of those annoying golfer to suck but wanted to look the part as we caught up with him at t box a few holes away i notice. He hit his name embossed on his bag and was wearing long pants like they do on the pga tour also. He was one of those guys who meticulously towel cleaned his club and replace the cover after every shot including that yard drive. Just top amateur athletes dress like you play if you stink. Let your clothing reflect that. Why do you think. Greg cody wears cargo shorts and twenty year old gulf shoes. The only thing worse than mr double. Bogey wearing long pants on the golf course. Is the guy on a fancy bike wearing an advertising festoon competition jersey. He's quite iming the and he's in the french. You're on an eighty dollars. Schwinn get real happen to. Golf is the trend toward listening to music on the course. Another example of the scourge of multitasking. The only music. I want to hear on a golf course. Is the sound of a cart girls singing another round of miller lite gentleman. I'm greg cody and that's how it was back in my eye on the poll. Guillermo is the worst thing to happen to golf. The scores of people listening to music on the course. It's true i've in arizona. Outraged people hear me and mike ryan. I have a tricked out golf guard. It has speakers. I blast music all the time and mike ryan is the worst golfer but best dressed person on any course that he steps on it is. I'm on golfing for three reasons. The fit the drinks in the tune. Limits chris. You were mortified that entire time. Your father was talking. You guys have a very different experience on the golf course. Look at him. He's glowing right now. Your father long for a time. Where damn music couldn't be heard on the course and all he'd here was nice shot dead. He's he's pining fifties. America never pays attention on the golf course. I could hit a two hundred and forty yard drive. Which for me is really good. And he wouldn't say a word. Greg i play with you three times. Now you've never hit a drive north of two hundred yards. That's what it is. I mean that's good. Shots are not not very common. Yeah so Logged them when they happen sauce. Everybody likes listening to music on the golf course to annoy quiet.

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Episode 39

The Bill Bert Podcast

59:03 min | 5 months ago

Episode 39

"All right hey what's going on. Everybody it's time for another wonderful. Our of the pill per pod cast. What's on burns. Something the other day that i've been thinking about nonstop. You're like you know this is the new normal things is interesting and you're like i only really know this podcast as this like. I don't really remember when we would do in person. I only know skyping. And i gotta be honest with you. I think it's better than when we're in person. It's definitely healthier. Yes i think. One of the last ones we did was smoking. That fucking deli dill pickle. Oh i went off the rails hard with cigars and booze. I am on the wagon. Bill december era all dry december. No booze going pesca -tarian. I'm cleaning my life. No cigars. I'm going to help you. Bill i gotta tell you something man. That's that's commendable to because that's that's one of the one of the hardest times. Is that a beer. That was a guinness. You just like oh my god. I walked into. What is that is an iced coffee. Do that would have been the greatest setup ever spring in your phrases. Bossed out of black and tan. Whatever the hell that like. I saying the holidays is is one of the hardest things to get through. 'cause everybody's just like you know. It's such a weird combination where it's totally stressful. And then you go to a party and you don't have your kids there and you and your wife like let's just get fucked up and deal with the tomorrow it's quarantine i can do it because a quarantine right. I'm i'm really good when when when once we go into quarantine. It's a weird thing of you. Know i honestly think it's because of i'm friends with you and you say things sometimes about like you know what i didn't want my. What do i want my daughter. See me drunk all the time. And then i go we i if i'm if i live my life regularly they they very seldomly. They'll see me with a glass of wine or whatever the party but they don't see me drunk. But if i'm in quarantine with them i would just be getting drunk by myself on the and i. I remember when it first started. I thought of exactly what you said was like. I'm not going to drink in quarantine and i didn't drink the whole time. We were stayed home. I never drank and then when we started loosening up the regulations. I started drinking and i. It's weird as soon as quarantine starts in and when they go stay at home safer at home. I just go no booze and it's it's almost like a switch in my head. I go booze. Let's get healthy. let's let's let's present another scenario. Okay you and i both single twenty years younger and we have no families like how much weight and how many fucking empty bottles suburban. I would have my fucking apartment. But i would be getting like I thought it'd be financially scared to death. But i would be getting. Yeah i would be. I'd have some giles on right now. I got the house right now. i did. We had to do a face time with friends and family last night for like a zoom bharti and the way my my wife. My wife doesn't know anything about the internet. My wife doesn't know anything about fucking anything. And so i put my computer up sweetheart. I talked to felt like i said. Thank you for those slippers manage you. Gotta you got a great great wife man own out to everyone. We've got house slippers for christmas. My wife has a pair that she gave to nia the mechanics and then i have a pair called the machine. They're still available at free waters. Dot com go to burger to free waters dot com but But yeah the Which is i joke. I'm busting your balls. But like she set up the zoom so that it was just computer on cable which ultimately it looks like this whole firm. I'm just like everybody and you can see them going like you. Don't look good man. And i'm like and i was eating a doughnut and so i'm always. I used to have a theory that women don't know anything about the internet who this is going to be loaded That can't believe you like more misogynistic than me just like blows my mind. I went to therapy for a bill. I can ralph kramden over there. I would say things and my wife would catch me and go all right. You need to bring that up in therapy. I had i one time. Said she was just trying to get like. We're looking for places i'm driving. She's on yelp and she just is i. How do i get to restaurants. Like how do i'm just getting everything. I'm getting gas stations and i'm just like i'm losing my mind cause i'm like oh it's very simple. There's a little fork knife in the top left. I can tell you without looking. Yelp i can tell you yelp works in the top left hand corner you hit that then you go to your blue dot hit searching this area. I'm like reduce searching this area. And i go. Women will never be as good men at the internet and she goes. That's you can't say that. And i said no actually can and i said the tech companies have a loved. It can't say that it's like i can say whatever i want. And then you react to it and she goes and i and the tech companies. You know why there's been there she goes. Why go porn because fucking twenty years ago when it was dial up. I was learning my hand at the internet. Googling porn. I was googling porn. Then i had to learn how to get it out of my history at of my browser. Get it out of everything. And i go. You didn't even i was doing. You had to wait for the picture to load. And i go. You weren't used you didn't. There was nothing you needed the way i needed porn. It's just it's a censored like necessity is the mother all mention. I needed porn back then. And then she was like she was like she was like you. Watch porn on the internet twenty years ago. That's why you're having a hard time with yelp is because you you don't understand technology because it wasn't a necessity of yours. Let me ask you a question but this shopping on line. Catch this new group up because women are also watching porn. I think there's a there's a weird thing about my misogyny is it's just them as a group. It's not them individually individually. I will fucking go. Listen don't listen to this fucking guy it. This happens do this. I'll try to help somebody out individually but as a fucking group. I don't know what it is. They drive me up the fucking walk. I think i think it's more more like a contrarian. I think that's probably concerned and i also feel like part of me feels like stopping times when i'm making an argument. I will say. I will say everyone because it's a more fun argument to have than just going you. It also leads to frustration audio if he just like you know everybody's fucking say it and the whole world agrees with me. There's a woman on earth. That's a fun way to start. An argument was i was. I was fighting with my. I was fighting with my My bus driver semi buster. He's my friend. I've been on toward them now for like two two and a half years and i love you guys a friends at this point if you can have arguments is still keep working together. At that point. It's been blurred. It's been way blurred. We had an argument last night yesterday. Driving home from san diego on whether or not you're driving it's been you had an argument on whether or not a this is a. This is a hot button topic. But i have never been in a in a train. I've never run a train on anyone. I'm just not a train. I never understood what is in it for the guy. Okay i actually said one on one sex or it could be you in forty other dick's and then the whole time in your head like is she cool with this thing. Just that's what is it. I go. I go ron. I think it's cultural. I don't think. I think that's might be just a black dude thing. And he got and he got pissed and he goes. That's racist and i was like no. No i'm just saying like and then i was like i just like saying everyone just go. I'm sure there's white guys that run trains on girls. I'm certain there are but in my sam trying like we're gonna talk big numbers like that was never something and my friends did. And then and then and i agree. You're saying that it was common place where you grew up. So i'm saying culturally and he was like us like no. And i remember i won't say their names but they're friends of ours. One of oil is. I don't think they've been promising second trainee by the time. You're a her her vaginal so full of pre come. If you're lucky it's just what the fuck stick target. You're just you're suggesting they don't come insider. I assumed everyone just came insider. Yeah i mean. I'm not in that world. I don't wanna be in that world. Never never would. I want my daughter's ever to have that ever happened to them. I think it's i'm so against. I'm so famous taking a hard line stance on trains. Does that will betrays joke. He goes he's humor this he's talking to. My girl and i was like three sons. She's like. yeah two guys. He goes no bitch. That's a train reasons. Two girls and a guy a tray. You really train. Why yeah i remember. I just not wired that way. I knew i had a friend outside the business. You know they used to do that. They two on one chicks and they would try to make each other laugh in the middle of it like she'd be like in the doggy style. Position one guys getting blown in the other guy is playing a doggy style. And he'd be like don't look at them. Don't look at it and then you just look up and the guy would be making a face and try and make them laugh like they got. And i was saying to do you guys real disgustingly comfortable. You are with each other. I wanna know any. I don't know any man like that. I don't know man like that. And i don't ever want to know man i don't like bert. I don't wanna know you like that. No i don't want to know your sounds by the way this is so fucking gross is this. This is my president of menu in a train. me going. is that okay with you. Are you like that dummy. What you like bill going shut the fuck up talking run out. That would be major. That would be that would be. Hey also not. I have this thing. I was talking to another comic about that. We talking about all these fucking comics getting in trouble and we would just sit. There was always said that fucking like the second was any ripple in the water's just like out. I'm out yeah rome. I think i'm i'm like that aggressively. I would be the guy on the train going. You're sure you're cool with this and they'd be like trump a fucked up. I wouldn't be. I wouldn't be in it and then they don't tease me and say was gay. And i'd be like i guess i was doing all those decks. Have a good time in that room for the boston in front of the boston. Comedy club. Three black comics up or man named ask me about trains. And i i was because i was the party animal guy and they assumed i ran trainings on checks all the time and i was like i was like i've never run and one person who we all know very well by won't say his name said that might mean you're gay if you've never been in a train that might mean you're gay and i was like i don't think so and then everyone was all black comedians. Start agreeing. you probably gay. That's what it is. And i was like what they're like. Only gay guys won't run. Trains on checks. Sounds like hang on. Is this macho thing. That i can fuck with other guys watching. It doesn't affect me. 'cause i'm so into this pussy it it pushes through the gay zone comes back around straight again. But there's something inherently homoerotic going on there. There's a lot of layers to it. This is above my pay grade. It's like back in the day. I remember somebody's a mind. Were going down to brazil. You gotta go down there. It's just like i can't go down there because i'll never come back. Fuck you come back. It's like oh physically. I would come back. But it's just i don't wanna do that and also i was dating a sweetheart at the time and i was just like i can't i'm not gonna third world country and paying money sex with some of the the daughter. There's a some of the poorest people on the planet and then come back talking shit about it. Like i hit a fucking three point. Two seconds left on the clock. I just never understood. They tried to say that bullshit bill. You're paying for it here. You gotta take him to a movie. Shut the fuck up. They have options here options. So fucking funny. Yeah i just wasn't i never. That's one of the smartest fucking decisions. I've made a lot of dumb. Was the smartest decisions i have ever made. Was not to go down there and do that and it was funny they used to take pictures and shit you know when they were down there and you saw the evil like trying to smile next to a statue this. You saw the emptiness of what they were doing. If you're going to keep drinking i i'm gonna have my after workouts moodier work today. Yeah the first time position is hotel. Nobody in it. Nobody down the gym. If there's anybody in the gym i won't can go in. I don't know what this is is keeps my pukes glowing. What what do you do when you go in the gym What is that is that What is that mango. Who's with you on the road. Who you bring with you. I got dean del rey and then it got clubs soda kenny. Who got me this. So i'm going to tell them. What in the fuck did you get mango for. He does shit like that. Close soda is one of the coolest dudes. He's one of the funniest motherfuckers edna and guarantee you. He got that one. Because that was the the weirdest one i would be. I got you a mango smoothie. Enjoy sweetheart great with a club. Soda kenny book. Be i was gonna say club. Casilda kenny doll and you just pulled the strength just goes excuse me mr i love when he does all those stories right known analyst scotland. I love let me before i start you start this. I wanna say it's a little things in life that mean a ton to me and i remember the first time i did owen. A and i was scared i was nervous. I didn't know anyone there. A club so to kennedy clubs on the kennedys was so nice to me said hebert. Welcome to the show. Everyone's really excited to. Have you have a great show and you just like no one was talking to back when they were all fighting and no one spoke and it was just like that one person always fighting. Yeah tell me tell me. Good clubs soda kennedy stories. Just quick little silly things that he would do. I remember. we don't mean version. Were doing essentially the mid west of europe. When my fa- might be my favorite tour. I ever did. I got to see all these amazing countries in cities that i'd always heard about prod. Budapest warsaw all these cities in germany. It was amazing and The vienna i remember one point we would taken a train. He goes I got we getting down to this next gig and kenny's like oh we're taking a train. Inversely goes what kind of train and and kenny goes a choo choo train ball and it was hilarious because it was like cold shit which is another thing that i just think that i really enjoyed about being over there because it was really it was during the wintertime and it was really cold and i've watched so much stuff about world war two everything. I could see. Ken burns the war. And you just being where it happened and just feeling like what a bitch was on a train platform and just knowing that the russians would like even colder duggan will kind of footwear that they had back there and these people plowed through this. It's just you know. I don't know i i find i find all of that fascinating so But do clubs soda. Kenny was just. He was hilarious. He was fucking hilarious. We would walk in. You know they would. They would just walk in and they would speak. just go. oh excuse me. Misters my favorite one. Excuse me mr. i'm not from around here. He would say that we just so clearly american in like obviously speaking english. And you just still look on people's faces like this guy fucking serious. I don't know how he keeps straight face. It's the most deadpan dude. I've ever met in my life but he hasn't down which is so great when you finally make him laugh and he actually breaks me. God bless you. I was in paris. France Fuse must be like five years ago. Six years ago and i was freezing. My dad called. i said what's up. He goes out. And i said i'm in france. I said it is cold as shit here. I'm like breaking down. I feel like. I wanna just call it a day and go back to my hotel room. My dad goes it's funny. I have your grandfather's diary and he said the coldest day ever had impair in france was he was in the trench warfare and he was poured some isis helmets. We shave and he had to take the razor and break the ice. In the wa- the water formed as ice and he had to break the ice. Oh my god to to get the water onto his razor. And i went. Wow i feel like a pussy. Made me feel like posting wasn't even bitching about the cold and france. My dad tells me those. My dad's told me that story tells me like five stories. Every time i see him like just like he's never told them to me. Go no no no no no you go you go. I was done. I was going to say. I wonder if that's dementia home. I have a I got one for you. I shaved in cold water for almost like ten years straight. 'cause i watched the dirty dozen and they used to make them shave and cold water and those were all tough guys and it was something that i did. I don't. I wasn't even like a conscious decision. That was like a subconscious thing. It was one of those things. I'm going to do this to make myself tougher. So all of this bullshit. That's happened to me. We'll fucking and roll off my back easier. Who's fucking weird. I did it to try to make myself tougher. Didn't work and then one day. I was just like fuck my doan. Like seventeen to twenty seven shave the cheese this christ and then and then. They finally put hot water on my face. Oh oh my god. This is amazing. Fucking weird person. Man was a hold up a mango smooth. The so this is the first. Is this your first trip away from the your your new one. Yes the first time the if this is the second day of my son's life i haven't been with me yesterday. Of course i get the facetime. And he was staring and then he broke into the big smile. My was like the grinch my heart was just like. Oh my god. I can't take it dude. i can't take cute. My kids are i. I just wanted. My son is doing the doing commando crawl now The he's really strong gets all up on all fours and he's rock and he starts screaming stuff like he's all excited and then the other day he moved the right arm. I was like oh shit it's going to happen. And then he just face planted head space plants on the rug. We shook it off though he shook it off. Man he's He's they're both the amazing. My daughter said the other day we would sit down for dinner and she goes down. Because i like being a big sister i should say yeah. She's riot man. That's crazy you'd think about it you had you had him in quarantine you've spent every single day with him like we have never had that opportunity of things weren't they are. It's ridiculous like having kids. You just want to put them in your chest in your heart. It's the craziest thing ever so is my wife is already published herself as the disciplinarian and i'm just like the like the older kid that never moved out. Can i tell you what. I got joy today. I have a hard time getting into tee shirts. I've a lot of t-shirts a lot of them are ones. I pick this so sentimental. You'd get a. I have a great modest mouse t shirt. I got it the concert. It's a green tea serving modest mouse and there's a buffalo in the middle. You can't get rid of that. You went to the show. i can't get written. It's the greatest shirt i've got. I've got some of the greatest shirts but a lot of them. I got when i was smaller. I was like dating lee. And i was one hundred. Eighty six pounds and and so yesterday's goal dude. There's you go to be able to fit into your modest mouse shirt. No i got a better one. I've gotta see this made me. This made me well up. Wonder if i have a. I wonder if i have the picture i do. Hold on the Floating around that's not it. That's such a great old school. Look and share. It looks like the chair. Oscar goldman sat in on the six million dollar man. It's i just bought it. I got it finally got chairs back in In fucking target in places all the good chairs ergonomic chairs were gone because of cove it. You couldn't get a good chair. i'll find it. Who saw that. Common it. Somebody or chairs. And then get shamed chairs and waits. You cannot find a free weight. If anyone's got free weights up to fifty pounds with iraq. Anyone can hook. Neil what's up and some free weights. I would love it. I wanted to get the old school ones bill that we used to have in school. That were like smelled like enemies. And and they had the they you click them. They go chink chink in other. Like the plates. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah i wanna get those and then But i can't find him anywhere anyway. Here's back to my doctor my Back to the dog away to see the new dog. The dog is fucking adorable anyway. so have the shirts. I can't get rid any of them. The yesterday we are on with the girls were doing removing stuff out of his garage and In georgia has on a shirt. It's it's a shirt. I bought concert short. I bought nashville. All you can separate. What abandoned is but it says nashville above the top of it. It's a bad ass shirt black old school shirt. she's wearing it and underneath it. She's wearing a waffle like a waffle shirts. That keep you warm. You but waffled thermal right. Now look at it. I go here. Is that make sure she goes. Yeah she goes shirt yet is cool shirts because you have a lot of cool shirts was like wait. Do you want some of my shirt. Since she goes can have them. I was like hold on. And then i go week. Where did you get that waffle shirt and she goes in your closet. it's cool. It's got holes all in it spat ass and i went baby. I wore that waffle shirt. The first night i did stand up the first night instead about where that awful shirt with a i said that waffle shirt was like you know you get lucky. You did goods. I'm going to wear that. I said i wore that waffle shirt for the whole first year. I did stand up like that was my shirt. There's a big home thing now. And i go. And then she goes she goes oh cool and so then i got they left. We have them going to school at a at a man. We're building new house. We we have a man cave this done. We send them there to go to school. And it's so much easier. I went into my thing. A gr- modest mouse shirt a went. I put it in her door. Grab this great. I grabbed all these ex. And i was like this. Kid's gonna be fucking so happy. So that's i. If i should show you the shirt i i wore i got it. Like in one of those vacuum-sealed things like i have all my shirts that i wore an all my specialists like retired jerseys and then the first shirt abba war anti at this stage coach shirt from this episode of breaking bad that i did have it. All shrunk wrap into thing. I i gotta show you. It's like it's such a classic nineties. It's like lying green with these thin blue stripes. Remember that shit. It's like a z. Cavalry like style shirt. So that was like my go-to shirt. I had a good set the first time and then i felt like it was a lucky shirt and then i started bombing after like my second show and i kinda got past that. I'm like now i don't think there's any mo- joe's in the shirts i think. Just stink better at this. So i retired shoes shoes. Would i would retire. Because i don't i stop wearing shirts but I have the shoes from almost specials. And then i have the shirt still that. I wore the first time i gotta deal and i have the shirt still that. I wore the second time. I gotta deal those those those sets. I have both those shirts. It's so crazy and then reminds me of somebody who was saying that. Maybe the Comedy club at the magic castle. The comedy magic club hermosa beach. I need some help. Our thinking of doing a show for them in the top parking lot got that parking garage right above it. They do fucking right. there was to it. i'll do it. I'll go down there. I'll reach out to mike lacey. See we cannot tell them. I gotta curse though. Yeah you were outside. We're not in the club. It's why you working with me. Don't worry about it. reach out to them. Oh okay all right. I love because he has all of that memorabilia. Really now he crazy as george carlin. Rusted soul went down there one time and he saw the memorabilia that had and he was like you know. I have the whole outfit that i wore for the album. Cover of class clown. It's been in a suitcase onto my bed for like thirty years. You want it and he was like. Yeah so i mean. He was trying to start like like if he started a museum if he had like money. Like the stuff that that guy has. He's taped every single set. He doesn't you know. Use them for profit but he has if you did a set there in the ninety s eighty seventy s. He has he has find it so he has a. Here's question. what what outfit would you buy in the list. Let's say let's put up caveat on this because i know that you're willing to donate money meaning meaning. I know you're more apt to an auction bid on something if the money's going to go place then to spend money on yourself. I had a dream. You a helicopter last night anyway I had a dream. You bought a helicopter and you go. It was fucking keep bird. It was so cheap. The wheels are too heavy at campfire. Very far it can only find nine hundred miles. And i was like real. And you're like i fucked up fucked housing rate ready. You're in an auction. And they say we have to suits available. Richard pryor's allred suit from live on the sunset strip or steve martin's wall white suit. I gotta go prior really. Yeah sam kennison's trench coat. Okay or we'll see what we got up here. If you say something from dyson. I'm going to have to flip a coin. Oh dicing jagged says dice man on the back or sam kennison's trenchcoat. I think i got do the dice coat. I don't know but still alive. And i can talk to him. I can't talk to sammy talk. Take the sam thing just to have some sort of connection with him much. Because he's the one who taught me about dynamics more than anybody i ever saw in trouble carlin. George carlin taught me about mike control and kinison taught me dynamics explained to me. Well all right. I would say george carlin one of the greatest voices of any comedian. I ever heard and he he had this register from way down low to really up high so when he did characters voices of had like a radio broadcaster voice that he he was not only a master of stand up he was also a master of how he used his voice. And when you learn things like that you can in a very economic way control the audience by just raising and lowering your voice lowing voice. You could draw them in you bring your voice can make him go back like that. I watched i saw a cosby before. That bullshit went down and he just had us on a string and really like i think comics. We have a tendency to listen to the material and not see the mechanics around it. And sam kennison they told us before. It's too clips is a clip of him. I don't know if he was just a bad mood or whatever but it was before he was before you had the trenchcoat and he had He had like fingerless gloves on or something. He was dressed all in black and he had these sunglasses. I mean he liga cocaine cowboy man he looked like a fucking get a gun with the silencers what he looked like and he's just onstage just screaming his blood curdling screaming. All of this shit. And i remember my wife came into the room. Choose just like Jeez god what are you watching. I go this kennison before he learned how to control it and then he so he had this incredible powerful voice. But if you just come on stage and do that from the second. Geronimo yet. Like people eight minutes interact dude. I can't was new scream anymore. So when it was when he went all the way down was suddenly buddy how you doing. Are you married to she. Wife honey been married for and he was just do that whole thing and just remember this face and then he would just bring everybody down and it was like it was almost disturbing when he would ask those questions. Because you could feel something was going to happen. Yes what it costs the whole crab. Just shut up in. Listen and then take that. Little right of moses sky going like this is getting crazy and then the release was the joke in his frustration of being married or whatever you know some woman who broke his heart. Just watching people do stuff like that. Then you don't have to like prance around the stage and make all these giant movements to to feel like you're keeping their control you can literally do it with just moving the microphone closer or further away or pulling yourself off you can do shit like that and then also You know like you can create moods with your voice going up or down you can really create like last night D del ray was on stage and he was doing this bit about people with bad backs and he went into this character for like just one line and i just i was like oh my god what the fuck is that. That's a whole new color in his act and then immediately went back to the stuff that he usually does. But you felt the crowd like going like i'll man. I wanted more of that. When we when i got off stage was like dude dat right there that little thing now you can blow that out on this run. Just see you know. Just blow it out until you just bombing and it's quiet. I don't give a fuck but just 'cause that's a skill that he can do. He just has to develop it. So that's it's kind of like you know. I always looked like like sports like coop. You don't you can't go to your left. You start going to let you know you got no baseline moves you just practice owes you suck it outside shooting whatever whatever your sports analogy is if you start adding those things stand up Repertoire there then you can just sort of then you can start. Applying those elements two things in build shed. You know just gives you so many more options rather than being like. Hey dec- this fuck as with that. I think i think the i'm curious to see what doing all these outdoor shows has done to my act. Because i'm a as. I'm sure you know and i don't know how but like it when they're inside cars which has been lately. And i'm i'm by the way i'm done touring but like we just did san francisco and it was so cold. Everyone's just kinda stayed in the car. They have a great time. But i i my energy and what you said is up here. And then. When i'm done something intimate i feel like i'm like oh fuck you really pick up on that nat instinctually sometimes and then it affects how you perform it. And then we did like an intimate one an ambulance. And i was like oh i can. I can slow this down. I can feel the energy and you're like wow. I can't wait to get back. I can't wait until the vaccine spend a hard. I'm hoping i'm not gonna lose i game. You got muscle. Memory will come back. But i've been having You know you just feel like you know you're at some county fair standing on a picnic table in some of these things and it's you know traffic driving by and shit look where i'm performed here on final final approach for fucking love field toys. Just sit mella and eighteen wheelers going by but like this people can here because i said you guys having to time and they went nuts like they're having a good time so then i had to adjust okay. They can hear me fine. I just can't hear them laughing because it's just the way it was set up. It was like this little placid grassy area. And i feel like the last week or they in cars where they in picnic benches they're sitting on blankets amphitheater type of thing like a theater and then there's a little place where it's it's definitely a music type venue but the shows were there sort of sitting down in this thing and you're above them and then around the outside there's other people sitting there so What's also yeah it spend. Yeah i'm just thankful to be To be working in that people still give a shit enough to come out and see me to be honest with you so I got this wrong doing dallas than austin. Do another joe's podcast when you're there. I'm hoping he mentioned it. But i you know he gets like fucking astronauts on that thing so if he's got room for me i'll do it but i'm definitely going to hang out with them. Try to you know socially distance. Whatever 'cause i got i have spade has a new show coming back going to be a guest real some sort of a talk show type thing. I think it's for netflix. So i just gotta make sure. I mean i'm going to get sick anyways because i have kids so i just gotta make sure I had a buddy of mine in dallas. I could hang. And i was like. I can't do it to kim. It stinks. it really does stink and i. It's things now. Because you're like gotta philip worth the tail end because we know there's a vaccine incite where you just kind of keep your foot on the throttle. Be like this. There's rules are still rules. Take the bullet for the world. I'll be the first guy takes it to give it to me. Will you take the vaccine. I why actually went to my high doctor the other day and he said they already gave it to him. Have the same doctor for real. Don't say his name. I don't like saint people's names but yeah so he he said it was a side effects. Is i heard you feel. You have a cold for a couple of days because now it's just more like a flu. Shot yourself painting your arm new fine so i don't give a fuck up the side effects that i'm fine with the ponzi scheme in a fucking crazy government and i'm just sitting there like hey man this is fine with me. I don't give a fuck. I see him in the calmed now. The yeah i'll take. I'll take the flu shot. I just gotta thing today. That said a morbidly obese. People will get it. I was like wait. Maybe i'm going to keep the weight on till vaccinated. Then lose the weight lose weight but that that makes sense. It's like boarding a plane. Children's people can't stop eating That's a children's people can't stop eating fucking dogs and cookies put on this country. They got all those reasons. It stinks when people get it and don't feel symptoms and then they come out publicly in there like Game i got it. it was. I didn't want him in a problem. Because i feel like that makes everyone go like well. Then what are we worried about. And then you hear the one horse. There's a comic in Comic out of l. Jimmy tolo i think is i think his name was just read about it. He's out of east. La comic and he got it and you started talking about it on instagram and he passed away. And i'm like you gotta you never know if you're getting the good one of the bad one and so i got a buddy of mine. Outside of his business he thinks it's a hoax and one of his relatives. Just got it fucking hilarious. So it's just like i guess like you. Look i love conspiracy theory but this is just too big like the amount of people that would have to be on board to keep this going and then not say shit about. It is just like off the fucking charts. They're lying to you. Man who thousand fucking people in on this lie. How many people run shit. The entire infrastructure of the world is fucking in on the. We're all gonna keep mouth shut deal. I thought i had it last night. I was laying in bed. Knows like gunmen. I'm fucking sweating. Like i don't have children anything but like i'm sweating and fucking like our feel achey and then i go. Oh no that's right. i've just been partying my balls off for a month straight. And i just came out of san francisco san diego where we partied. We had one show at like six o'clock every night just like for three nights. We're like oh we get home at eight. Just vulcan make dinner drink like savages getting the hot tub. Smoke cigars go down to the beach was out of this world. And i'm like no. Why does that kill you. Why does that have to kill you. What is god. have against fun. What you just have to fuck it be a goody two fucking shoes and just sit there and read a book engaged eight hour sleep or else she gets gonna fuck and crooked fifty excess like. Why can't you just you know. There is something to be said. Those people i really have now that i have to be a fucking a good boy. I really envy people that just. Don't give a fuck. It's like you wanna pizza. All the top. Wanna get some donors for dessert. Drink suburban and the gar- you know smoke a little crack fucking whatever. Let's just have a good time. You know what. I almost did like this is i was thinking about this last night. We were unloading that garage. And i knew. I was going on the why i to. I started the ragging yesterday right. And i said to myself one of my favorite beers i've had this entire year in two thousand twenty. Was the first beer. I had in quarantine where they loosen it up construct controls and you could be around other people outdoors. We had friends over to our backyard and it was socially distant. Make the kids. Were watching a movie outdoors. Everyone was socially distant and the sun was setting. And i had a cold beer. I had an ice cold beer. And i got the first rush of alcohol buzz and and and was beautiful. Doubt it bill is. I had quit drinking. But i hadn't quit drinking 'cause i had problems with it. I quit drinking. Because i just quit drinking right so there was no shame involved with that that buzz. That buzzed in come with the like. I remember hearing a story of one comic who is sober and he took a drink like after like three years and he goes. The old me is back. I just had this great feeling like all forgot. How awesome a beer. Buzz is like a nice cold beer. Buzz and i loved it. I don't remember what it feels. I will say though. I had this new thing though i went. I did the shows last night and then the second i got back known the second was over. We just went straight to the hotel room. And i was so excited to just be back in a hotel room. I didn't do any damage you know and i went to sleep around. Midnight woke up at four. Am which was weird. Because i'm on central time and then was like. Oh really bill like what. What demon is running around in your head while you wake and i just laid there for like ten minutes and then i slept till ten o'clock basically got almost ten hours sleep dude. I feel amazing right now. That's a good i look for. I didn't sleep super good. Last night's i've on our first night boozing. But and i won't sleep great tonight but you've got to bite those bullets and then the third night asleep solid but what. I love what i love about. Not drinking what i love is gonna sleep midnight waking up at five and going. I'm up. I'm not hung over. I can do this. I can get through this. Let's make sunrise. I love that feeling as opposed to if you've been partying and you fall asleep at midnight. Wake up at five. You're like oj's going to fuck and suck on batboy was so stupid. I used to just stay out all night. If i had a long flight just so i could sleep on the flight and now i'm hearing like the long term of not getting sleep sort of the big thing. Now you know what's really good for. You is like a book up. God's so pathetic. Reading a book. Before i got a great one for you. Okay sorry to. Jim carey wrote a book called memoirs and misinformation thought that this guy was brilliant which. I don't know why you wouldn't like the level of this guy's brain this book just like it's sort of like mocking celebrity his own celebrity the business human behavior just like you know it's this. Is it right here. Yeah it's it's. It's incredible incredible about eighty pages in 'cause i got two kids young so i i i was supposed to bring it on the road. I was going to finish it. And i'm i didn't tell you. Can i tell you a book just bought. I just bought a and i'm excited to read. And kinda get this guy on the podcast. I think i think you and him. I think he'd be a great great podcast guest. Okay his name is hunter s. thompson. No it is shit. It is right thompson. Oddly enough right. I said right thompson and he wrote a he wrote a book called pappy. Land a story of family fine bourbon and things. That last. And i'm gonna i'll read the book and see if we'd like it but i think he's the head writer for espn and like he runs. Espn dot com or something. Or he's like the head for espn magazine but it's a it's a story about. I think it's i. I listen to him. A little bit at wisconsin impelled at the end of last night on on monday night football. It really is a story about his about dad's about dads being a dad having a dad so it should be getting here today. I'll i'll take a read and then if we're gonna reach out to him. I think regardless he'd be a great guest yeah Right thompson is his name andrew. But i'm getting his book. I know he's doing a press tour for his book. It's like a. It's a national bestseller. It's like a number one bestseller york times bestseller. So i just think in. Just it's inherently hilarious if you are talking to an offer. Hey we don't rate too much in life when you wrote a book. Can you help us out. They say the good. How are there pictures in your book. How big's the print you've had to approach to write a book for Yeah have you ever thought about it. Oh i got a great by we. I wrote a book. Derosa and bobby kelly about how to cheat on your girlfriend so this is what happened. What happened this is such a classic showbiz story so we wrote a a a a short film called cheat and it was basically it was. It was set up. The setup is basically you think these three guy is data getting together to do some sort of crime. And it's really set a blah blah and it just turns out this guy's girlfriends out out of town and this hot chick from high schools coming into town he wants to bang doesn't wanna get caught so he calls his two pieces shit friends. They try to help them up so we make it. We submitted to try backer. It gets in tribeca and it fucking does great so with that they go okay. What's the next thing we can do with this so to try to market the movie. We were going to write the stupid. You know how to book on how to cheat on your girlfriend and then you were supposed to get the fuck and movie with the buck. Yes and they agreed to it and then somewhere along the line. The movie thing went away and we just had a standalone book on how to be a piece of shit and it was just like this one. This one of this is supposed to be. That was one of the hardest books to write because they didn't believe in just a funny idea that became a movie. Then okay right the how to book and we were just sitting there on the phone. Okay what else. What's another chapter. Week right i mean. I wanna have an easier time writing a book on sailing. Fuck again one hundred a pages about this ship. Where just kept taking notes going to be good. It's and it's going to be funny. 'cause it's gonna it's gonna be a real cool thing like this little stupid hand out there and then you watch the movie you realize the whole thing is just a big joke and then then became well. It's gonna be too expensive dvd going away. Then it became a link and then gang fuck yourself and then it's just dumb book and then through that we then got a deal at fx to do a show the three of us because they just liked our chemistry in the movie and We were just. We wrote it ourselves. We just to green a shame because Jody rose is a really good actor if you watched them on on a better call saul and bobby. Kelly is a fucking ridiculously good actor ridiculously. Good actor so we. We could've made a show. Just one of those showbiz things would be to green of actors at the time. I didn't know how to ride a show like now. I could sit down. And i know how to do it. After all these years in efforts for family like i just said you know i mean i can crank out a fucking first draft f for family in like two days you give me an outline i can just i know like i just not do it now to sit in that room in out being surrounded by writers. You just learn how to do. So now. I could could've taken you know. We would've had a better idea still a idea. I wrote way better dialogue. I understand one of the great things that i learned about. Writing scene is comment late. Get out early. It's such a simple thing. It avoids extra fucking lines that ad pages and it's just like you and it keeps the fucking thing going. It's like you don't need to be like. hey bert. how is that a rams head. Oh that's great fantastic. So listen about this things you get rid of all of this fucking thing you just. What are you trying to do what information you're trying to get in this scene and how late into this conversation. Can i go. When i won't lose the crowd and then once we we have it and have taken the ball from here and got it to here and now i need to get the fuck out of it. And that's what that's what keeps steps. What makes it tight. And that's what makes a really good first draft where it's not this giant fucking gelatinous like the something fucking in here. Those are the worst drafts to get where you're just like. Oh my i can start with. This stuff is burnt down and start over again so visit where my my skill level was desert. That give you a. I realized the other day. I think seth rogan is turning forty. Maybe or maybe he's turning thirty. I don't know he's really young. Do when you've done. He's forty two movies for like twenty years but my point is like i had a real sense of respect. I've always enjoyed his work. But like i was like oh he was making shit that i was crying laughing at when he was twenty when he was twenty was working for the people but by twenty five twenty six i feel like he was doing his own shape so impressive. When you say up my napoli express hot. Tub time machine. All of that shit was like ten years ago right. One of those was years ago. Yeah oh he's i mean knocked up all the stuff he's done still living in new york when knocked up came out but i think those bad movie wasn't it. He was in it but super bad was his movie to supervise. One of the funniest goddamn movies to this day. It's one of the funniest eyebrow hill when he's talking to that teachers like no offense like an and he's doing that rant. You realize jonah hill's a kid written a movie written by. They were children when they wrote it. South era south in his partner is such a good fucking movie jonah hill to he. He wrote directed a great movie. I always forget the names of them. but some skater kids in nineties mid nineties. Yeah that was loved. That movie dona hill sister. Be beanie fagel beanie siegel. Nfl steam young. Whenever i forget her name but she's fucking awesome. She's awesome like awesome. And how are we in this business with our town on this business bill. I've never met one of these people. Don't park down my street. One time and i was like hey anyway room. You just need a little more confidence. Burke i'm cool. I'm cool being team letterman. Thinks you funny dude. At some point you gotta feel like you arrive. You can chill a little bit then you will do that. That fucking thing. He there was santa way like it. Can i just stay stuff to per second. Oh oh my god. I've never watched that. I shut it off. I had to shut it off as i just can't watch him do this to himself. Well we should wrap your charms. Burt twentieth sharks. I got a busy day. you've got a whole day dave hanging out in a hotel room nodding hanging out. I go fucking finish this script. And i got a. I'm doing a promotional thing for peak judd's movie of all day but tomorrow i got nothing. Today is the only day on the road. Righ- half the like you know like to the movie. The king of staten island. This other thing. Oh my god. That's so funny. That's so funny. I thought you were talking about pete. Holmes enjoyed knows like shut up movie they do. It looks at judd appetite on here. One time i love to have them riquet andretti. Reach out to judd. You guys know judd just The jug yeah. Let me call them now. I can't want credit bed andrew. Can you get brad pitt on this thing. Get davidson on steve. You get guerande will surprise them with her right. That'll be good media. I god no way no way. All right well. Fun hang bert. There's a good podcast bill. I do good time. I had a good time talking to you. You you wish well andrew. Even though you can't get shut appetite took it after the podcast. I am douse. Thank you to everybody. Who's coming out in dallas austin and houston texas I'm going to have a good time out here. Una shit how loud the traffic. I'm still. I'm still giving it my all my supper. All right. that's it. That's been another wonderful episode of the bill. Burr part asked all right. We'll see you next.

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Part 3: Rich Eng

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

15:55 min | 1 year ago

Part 3: Rich Eng

"Rich Good morning hey good morning. Steve and I keep counting down the days checking them off on my calendar for when you folks are going to be showing up for the NFC not not that far away. Now it's on top of US and I'll head next week next. I think I think I go next Wednesday. I go next Wednesday to California cornea and we'll be there for the Lewis and then on Tuesday Tuesday. Yeah Tuesday I'll move over to Vegas I guess and We'll start from there. We'll be able to spend a a nice six days and They got the last chance I chance contest to look forward to and and then the three days of NHCD and so many of your friends and and playing partners in contest rich come to town. It's it's special special and I mean really as Peten. I discussed yesterday. It's it's virtually a convention. It's a different kind of convention. It's all horse players and and Friends and family and it. It's just the greatest atmosphere and the handicappers. The horse players like a fraternity. And I keep thinking doc like Ralph Kramden didn't have the raccoon lodge look like horse racing gigantic raccoon lodge. Hi John Getting together more than a few. Jackie gleason in the crowd That's that is very true. Well well put and of course some of the some of your pals that are that are qualified that You know we'll be playing I know for sure so I haven't talked to him in a little bit but Hopefully some of the other Jersey The in quote Mafia folks I mean showing up I say that in a friendly term I know people say you know what you're talking talking about. What the Jersey Mafia with Richie Yang? Well the attorney's name exactly it's a nickname for for the group that led by rich and Kenny Jordan Lou. Follow so and who else who else is in that team. I know some over them. Bhai nicknames I kind of some of the last name I can't pronounce talk. It tells you all you need to know quite a few vowels quite a few names with vowels there you go all right. That's funny aricha tonight. The eclipse awards have. Did we get some final thoughts from you going into into the ECLIPSES flips this I don't think so I actually haven't been out in a few weeks but yeah I am in the cooks award voters so I sent my ballot in a long time ago and You know I think a lot of the camera. I don't have my ballot in front of me but the categories pretty cut and dried and but You know I think Carr's starting from the top of the I did a little reflection mortar for horses year. Top three year old I did vote for maximum security but A couple of categories. That I could make heads or tails out but I did not flip a coin. I just spent extra time looking at trying to figure out which one of these or she it's better than the rest and sometimes just the painting sometimes well the story. We'll certainly talk to Jay tomorrow morning and do the recap and J. J. is going with one of the themes. He's really pushing the the narrative of of of the suite with Chad Brown and bricks and mortar and Seth Clarkson and Erat Ortiz and the potential for you know the ultimate for the John Henry Sweep When it comes to breeder and the potential for George Strawbridge carry the day as well which would be you know? One of the one of the rarities if it does not the cigar the last The last horse to bring along the connections and then John Henry before him to to do all five categories. So as always. It'll it'll be it'll be worth watching And ACACIA Courtney Brittany Artan and Gabby debt will be hosting the festivities so we also looking good group of goes right there. There was a it was an inspired An inspired Decision to pull them together and have them handle the hosting and they'll be some other guests. That come in for presentations also WANNA congratulate Scott. kohls again as his period as the reigning champion handicapper of the year goes along with it. He gets an eclipse award tonight as well. So proud of Scott hot and He's been he's been very good You know everybody wins the NHCD becomes a great ambassador for horse players. You know throughout throughout North America. So we're still trying to see we can get a repeat winner. It's difficult it is. No one's been able to win quite. It's really really hard to do. And it's funny. We discussed that and and came up yesterday with With Pete as well well because Michael Bay check time was getting kind of deer and pulls the rabbit out of the hat over the weekend and he gets the passport stamped so one of one of several. That'll be back to try to become a two-time winner and Michael is a really good ambassador horse racing. People don't follow them on social media. They should. He's got a pretty good viewpoint and a pretty good sense of humor and he's one of those guys i. I wouldn't rule out for rent for winning a second one because sometimes you you just you just get hot at the right day the right moment that you got to win a few Head Bobs you get in you have to have this comes up. It's GONNA go your way exactly exactly a lot of luck involved with skill skill. I but you'd like to push you over the finish line. There's no doubt and we you know with all the conversations over the years that we've had and I you know for a long time you've been included as one of the contest experienced sorry inst- types that Can can speak to the approach. And they they you know there's that old expression that here they have to run for you and it you know it has to be your day and it's one of those one of those funny aspects of of contests play. You'll see some of the best known players take the collar on day one and be mired appeared all you know from the start of the contest and just nothing goes right or they you get a couple of seconds and you know they could have gone your way or the things happen. And this is one of the one of the elements not just a contest play but of day to day. Play when things go against you early no you. Can't you know you can't let it throw your your thinking and you can't let it influence how you go forward and some some days they're just you know you're just not going to catch a wave. Essentially yeah I agree with you. One hundred percent one thing about betting on horses as well as playing these tournaments Steve Iky just outlined. If you have a couple of things go against you It it'll test your. It'll it'll test your will they'll test your your character because it like the racing. Gods are always probing you to find your week weakest link weakest points in your body your mind and not if you're not carefully get away from your pretty quickly so you gotta be very very strong in all phases. The two win. It goes aspect without a doubt rich. Some Pegasus thoughts heading into Saturday. I right I guess the the news on the Spun horrendous came out the yesterday that Not Not in but I think the whole story I. I wrote a column about this For America's best racing but I think the raced centers around the number five hop each The horse is getting better and better but unfortunately the Enderlein is also getting closer and closer where this will be the final race of his career. I really. They do think that the race goes to him. You know shipping from California. This'll be the first time running at Gulfstream Park but this horse has enormous potential got enormous ability in. Just a shame that we're not going to see run the entire season but The very clearly goes for him. Are you doing You do in a Gulfstream card At Brisbane it No I I'm not doing one at bridge net but I will be doing. What a call on Saturday steak sheet Outlining the top stakes raising on the ghosting parked cars. That'll be available along with a handicap. Very good well and of course race you stay LAS VEGAS DOT COM for for that and Rich some some overall some overall thoughts One story I didn't get to today day Santa Anita announcing yesterday that they're going to scuttle that February thirteenth potential card that had been that had been part of the schedule trying to protect the horse population. and Get out in front of it. It it you know how for the best but You know a difficult weekend last weekend. That you know has got The vultures offers And and You know all those that are seemingly rooting against them in the industry They're they're they're all stirred third up. They're all excited they. They've got a chance to smell blood in the water act actually wrote about this The subject the two columns alums back for America's best racing. But you know people better not be you know trying to kick CENA needle in southern California racing while down because it actually represents presents the entire industry what happens in San Antonio should be important to everybody from coast to coast every the industry needs Santa Anita to be successful astle and have a successful meet. I know the Horse inventories an issue. I'm not exactly sure why when eventually can turn it around because there's no immediate get curse supplement option like some other states with casino gambling and You know going back to one. The California Horse Racing Board the mid it out the estates for twenty twenty. You kind of tell through the application from Santa Anita that there was gonna be a lot of three day weeks racing not for so so February thirteenth was. You know was a surprise but not a surprise because I think that the the way the inventory views of the they can somehow get three days times like you know nine races today. The twenty-seven raises that that does help them a little bit. But David it's it's GonNa be something. I I know. Sports gambling is something out there that might be trying to put the hook on. But that's probably a few years down the pipeline if it does come to reality so they've gotta make whatever revenue sources they have now supplement. That person come well enrich as we wrap up. Let me also get some. Early thoughts will get a final thought from you next Thursday but You know speaking sports betting You certainly We always get to you on on some of the big topics. And what's your early read on the market and the movement On Super Bowl all lines and The feels like the over under his gravitated up and I know Johnny mentioned on Monday. It opened as a pick. Them and has quickly Then turned toward the chiefs. What what's your read? My Lean right now is definitely toward Kansas City their their offense has proven to be. Almost unstoppable. A lot has to do with obviously their quarterback Patrick Mahomes and they have team speed like nobody else doesn't does in the national football league with the receivers and the running back. The defence is a question mark for Kansas City I think the forty niners chronic. WE'RE GONNA try to run the ball and run the ball and run the Baltimore at that defense so I probably would like if I had to make a five dollar bed now. I probably Hollywood take Kansas City minus one but go toward the over which is right now fifty four and half. That's another thing too over under starting at around fifty one hundred Hap- I really think it's GonNa top out so much you're fifty six or fifty six and a half which might cost them by back on the under he can get the fifty six and a half say well well. It's funny because Johnny and I discussed that Monday and you know it was less than twenty four hours in and I the number I came up with was fifty seven. I thought you know twenty eight twenty eight you know you start right around there and play with play with it and Johnny said well you're going to want to. You're going to bet the over over because it had opened at fifty one and a half or fifty two and then has continued to gravitate it. Just I know people then then think oh well if it if it's so obvious than take the under but I don't know feels sure feels like I saw where you would commented about. You know about how Seattle had had you know. been tough for the niners and that you know if you match mahomes up against the Russell Wilson. Yeah how's how's how's that a negative for Kansas City. I I feel the same way. It feels like it'll be a bit of a track me. Yeah the two quarterbacks given That really good for the United Defence. A Lotta trouble was Russell Wilson and believe it or not Colin Allen Murray with Arizona he had to really good game against San Francisco and the thing they had in common was The mobile quarterback could run and throw from outside the pocket. So Patrick Mahomes with similar skill. Set Salute That pass Russia the forty niners top. But they don't capture the quarterback and keep them in the pocket then or have Brinkley's well. We'll get some props and some final thoughts from rich next week and we'll be that much closer Leon are way actually talk to you from Santa Anita next Thursday rich rich and for pro pick on twitter of course at A. B. R. and race they LAS VEGAS DOT com. I'm for riches so-calle analysis and more rich talk next week. Thank you have a good travel. I appreciate it Rejang. Everybody Steve Steve Asking Tony Black and Dick Powell three hours zip by we scratch today. I don't know if I mentioned that yesterday. Carlisle Bell waiting for a short turn back opportunity so not involved. But we'll talk to you tomorrow weekend preview.

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Meet The Author - Barry M. Putt, Jr.  DRAMATIST  AUTHOR  SCREENWRITER

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Meet The Author - Barry M. Putt, Jr. DRAMATIST AUTHOR SCREENWRITER

"Alice may not live here anymore. But we'll sit. We talked about alice on this episode. The mind dog tv podcast talk and welcome my friends yet. Another episode of the mind dog tv. Podcast i'm an apple thanks coming. It's great to have you here as always i'm an easily confused man Just a few minutes ago on twitter. Twitter or facebook Keith lull draft Jensen posted. Or or i read a posted. He actually put up yesterday about it. Being just another monday and i was thinking it was monday. That's a show you how easily confused i am. Actually tuesday and i would not have known that had i not looked at the counter but i'm an easily confused person. Why bringing this up. Well back in the seventies was a young buck also easily confused and at the time. We have alice fever Alice of course. Alice bang zoom. You're going to the moon. Alice and then we had dallas alex from anfield song and then we had all the young girls love alice and we had also restaurant and we had Alice doesn't live here anymore. And then we had a television show called my very first song. I ever wrote was a song about poor talent and of course. I wish i could be back home with alice. Very confusing time for me oils. Alice's kind of made me very confused about what's up without now. Alice's was a popular name back. Then you don't. I guarantee you don't know anybody named alice right now. And you'll you if you do. I want to hear about right to me at info at might go tv.com. I want to know about it. i don't know any houses so at one time. It was an abundantly popular name. Obviously they were. Tv shows and songs and everyday. Alice was everywhere. Alice can't be found anymore. Alice doesn't live here anymore. Why am i talking about all this stuff. Well hopefully my guest tonight can be confused me about some of this alice stuff that was going on and we'll get to him in just a moment. He's written a book about it. So and i hope he can Clarify things for me. Somewhat on the alex front Before i bring him in. I need to quickly talk about one of my sponsors. Tonight's show is brought to you by audiobooks now. Dot com or dot com. You know all about convenience of works. I don't have to tell you about that. We've gone to that with the audiobook she'll but You know they get you can also you get them just about anywhere online right now. You can find audiobooks anyway. So why audiobooks now dot com will answer simple price point price point price point or books now club membership price Club membership deal is the best city stubby a little bit on words tonight because i don't have my copy my my Teleprompter went down. So i'm kind of trying to feel my way through the ad copy audio books now. 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Ladies and gentlemen please open your ears. Open your minds and help me walk me and bury 'em but junior to the mine. Dogs he gets very welcome. I figure beat your i. It's great to have you here. I'm stumbling a little bit tonight. And as you can tell i'm a little confused So what. I have to be honest with you. I've never seen one episode of the tv series at all. I am familiar with the movie. The movie was a lot of different alice songs as i mentioned. But what what Inspired you to write this book. Well i had been a tv show. I've watched it actually reruns and Pitched the idea to the publisher gambian. That's me. I'm a fan of behind the scene. So that's the combination of the show and also being a fan of those books is option right and so the the television show was a spin off of the movie. Alice doesn't live here anymore but to me the only thing it's it doesn't have a whole lot in common with the film. Does it or is it. Just me i. I think it does so. You're familiar with the right. Yes okay so it really is An adaptation of the last half hour of the last power takes place mellon. Ruby's cafe mashing tucson and none the series place in phoenix But now low bureau an alice. I've been court characters in that last half hour film and the core characters also in the feeling is much different in the move. Obviously in those times cinema was much different than television now today. in two with today's production values. If really can't tell the difference between television and film but i think it was more than just the aesthetic to film quality versus Broadcast news is something about it that made it to the television and again i didn't wants to series at all but i know from click and pass it or go fast enough about it that it felt like a I dunno can't be tv. Tv sitcom versus where the movie we had a more much more A little bit of a dark on the sad undertone about Her situation that that didn't seem to be part of a sitcom am. I wrong that now. That's right the film was definitely more drama. A bit of a story about a woman you know setting out on her own really being the master of own estimates and circum- it don't it it was definitely a comedy but Deal with some important issues. Out women workforce a those some of the issues that were brought up in the calm and linda lavin was actually recognize. Her character of was recognized. You know within the community as an important to advancements in by why. Why is that. And i i remember this but again you know in in the seventies i was more interested in things like cheech and chong or judge george collin than This kind of stuff. so why. What was the connection to the women's empowerment and women of a women's rights movement. And all that stuff. What is that. I think it's it's in the tv series. There were times in a waiter and he was paid more than two weeks. This that's one example of of fair pay also waitresses at you know working class. How the television show now When did that run. Run like the late seventies mid seventies. And how long did it run from. Nineteen seventy six to nineteen eighteen. Eighty five wild. That's a that's a long run for for a sitcom I wasn't aware it was that long. I thought i thought maybe four or five years so it actually had to have a super huge loyal following to sustain itself for that long. Yes didn't nine seats. And and so what else you i am. I'm assuming you're more of a fan of the television show in the movie or or am. I assuming wrongly there. That's an interesting question. i like them. Both they're both unique. You know Because when a drama and a feature known right and and to sitcom is later Side really liked both right so when we're talking about behind the scenes stuff and you know the inner workings like the inside baseball of What's not start with a television series for ran for nine years or nine years right. It was nine years so we're for nine years. There's a lot going on there. What kind of what kind of things do you write about in. The book is personal. The personal interaction between cast members. Is it you know. What is the backstory so was adapted by robert general basically. He had the opportunity to adapt up because of are one a couple of academy awards the networks. So that's that was the genesis But in terms of the backstory for the suit During the season they have. I just sixty is a series was trying to find its audience and kind of get grounding it was and ultimately Different changes about one. When producer brought in a thought of as a live production. They would stop states on each producer. Add things to the ultimate goal of the series but then when season two team around brought in madeleine davis bob charity were Longtime writers or the burnt russillo ball or shows. We've had agreement experience. David really helped to bring out flesh out characters specifically bureau. She was kind of a one dimensional war. One dimensional in season one and. They've really helped her character lurch. The actress really wanted so it had wanted season. One specifically bureau mentioned was sometimes sounds e and the rental awesome jokes. in season. two through nine seats. She started to see her date Relearned with stills were yom tov got married but home and started so we really suffer also with mel In in the first season mostly was just hung up waitresses and he wanted to wanted more deaths to his character so after talking with producers and season two they help to flesh his character and his back out in this series and he's he's he was actually in the movie right the donell guy Did he play. I can't even really remember. It's been so it's been almost fifty years now right With the part the way he played the character similar because the only thing they had mash was radar. Who played the character much different in the sitcom then he did in the movie Was mel the same in both the movie and television show the same. He was on so Since it's alice just it's very much a feature found that it was are were rear ended a tv sitcom a little bit. detector was was pretty much the same outside of that you know as we talking about this just occurs to me that in the seventies this was kind of a television. Didn't have a whole lot of ideas for itself. Did it. So it would. Basically 'cause mash just took i A hit movie and adapted it and then there was the odd couple. This movie and i'm sure there are others that are nothing about but it seemed to be Kind of a pattern there. Well let's not think of our own ideas. Let's just try to adapt what's already a hit two small screen So we was this part of a pattern of that. Was that kind of the industry thinking at the time. That's a great question i would say. Did you could definitely look. I'm sure i'm sure that original shows in the nineteen seventies but There definitely are in adapted like you're saying and they're all super bureaus like superheroes were being injuring them to her woman to buy a woman. Superman americans great lists wealth. Greatest here. what was that guy. America's greatest hero. Yeah yeah yeah yeah So you don't look old enough if you don't mind we say to have these memories. You must have been a very young person during the seventies now like who was the demographic for macos to movie as you mentioned is an art are so it's not gonna carry over the same demographic as the movie necessarily especially a sitcom you're gonna get probably older and younger than would necessarily go out to sea in rated movie at that time lots of. I think it was a lie. Why ago yet never the seventies religious three major networks Not to you know a lot of numbers and it was over half of its run. It was not so it. Had you know a large a large fall. Yeah you know that. Nine hundred seventy six to eighty five period. That's a period when most people that's when people were really in the suburbs starting to get cable And so And that was at that time. Thirty channels was big and not all of them were entertainment anyway. So you may maybe had ten channels at that point to choose from but right around seventy six we when people started to get that. Add more choices but by eighty five. I think everybody nationwide you know that was pretty much normal for everybody to have at least thirty channels and then you know. We all know what happened from there. Now it's like five hundred channels and nothing on But it just seems so to to survive. In that era things started to get a little more competitive they had to kind of compete with a lot of different things and as it got later in. That show's run at things like the cosby show and all that stuff to compete with in the early eighties and family ties and those kind of things so Was was that the reason for the demise is kind of things which is studying the change on the tv landscape. Actually the some of the actors were ready to move onto objects. They had done it for a while and Wanted to just wanted to other projects on the ninth. The ninth season short was sixteen episodes whereas the other the other seasons were about twenty four episodes And they agreed to do another one more season but most actors forbade move on just to spend two hundred and two episodes of the whole show right at was and this has like a stupid question but it probably is stupid question but as i mentioned i'm easily confused. Man was the song alice's restaurant ever kind of acquainted with this movie anyway. I think the alice's restaurant the song came out before the movie and was obviously before the television show. Now it's probably have nothing to do with with each other. Jimmy the saunders a new girl in town. I think that's what it's all new girl in town is no. I'm thinking of alice's restaurant all aggressively. You can get anything you want it. I think that was associated. With show is always been in my mind because alice worked in a restaurant right and that was done so i don't know so glad thanks for clearing that up. Do you know any girls named alice. I was thinking about that when you were saying that. I don't and it is true about the nineteen seventies service. Alice onto brady bunch There was an actress named alice. I hope what i do know. One person The wife of someone that i know is named alice. I don't know them. Gotta be gotta be older at least my eighth. Probably i think when i was in elementary school there were probably a couple of and maybe shames when we go through fads with that but just thinking about all that allison in the pop culture of the seven. And maybe that's what white the whole ralph kramden think the moon alison all that stuff. I wanna show a cover of the book and so How long booked out. It has been out for him out in the fall of twenty nine hundred. And that's what what the cover looks like now. you mentioned the actors wanted to move on Look at it lindell avenue did what did she have a big career after the shell she. She did Definitely she still in tv shows and feature films. Today she Last year she out seconds out she's adjacent categories and her and she tours Us cavalry pretty cool now. The delay on on the on my right now the one with dark hair. She spinning still a kind of A television a lot of different series. Still i don't have but a face is definitely familiar enough to know that he'd been Cast in a lot of contemporary dramas that ron tele television dramas correct in that. You must need that talend. She pleaded vera she. She did some rose after after alice but then she retired actor. And what about the the big red headed holly holiday. She low and yet she she was. She was later actor films. She was in Gremlins the big bump gremlins the nineteen eighties. She was on the tv series. Benjamin a spin off of the feature dago. five benjamin's another one and as she on narrated audibles alternately she She retired acting but yes she had she had to be and mel guy he. He spinning other stuff too. But i don't know where i know from but i know he's been in something like Always kind of that got that same personality But what else can mel who is he. What's his name. What what other stuff if he'd been in so what i'm his name is victoria and actually alice was the biggest thing that he did and the thing that really known for but he played on. He had feature roles in many tv series. Let's see the love boat The partridge family things in that era. Young that's the way nineteen ninety so I would say 'cause at the v. Seventy four is is forty seven years ago seventy six would be Yes of forty five years ago. we're talking about. This show was starting out these people if they are still alive at if any of them still have to be pretty ancient because they were not kids jackson so yeah you didn't have to be pretty old now. If slovenia what actions are t back arching he had. He had health problems most of his life and at one point during this shooting of alice they had shut production down does he had open heart surgery and he had At a hospital been on the set so that he could rest funding money worksheet and then she died on. Cuba's sixty yeah. You'd think this kind of show would Could be made today see again. i'm television and pop. Culture is not my thing. I don't own a television for thirteen years but in today's While the whatever the entertainment state of entertainment is today. They show like this could be made today and would be successful if it was made today at insert. Entrapped is a great question because a few years ago. They were going to remove outs. And i spoke to. I spoke to the present would have been the executive producer of the show devote a couple of different versions of the script but it was never picked up so at this point. They're not on appliance. Just thinking that story probably still happens a lot. Because i have friends in arizona. Who and they they post stuff about these little diners in the out of new mexico arizona Still have these little tiny towns and have these little diners that you cited a diners in two sons. Even still pretty small town. If you pass through. But i mean so i took. That story probably still happens a lot. Go girl who Kind of you know has to put a dreams on hold just to survive and put its you know what for a living At that's an ends up doing that. Being a waitress at some law steiner out in the middle of the desert Probably still is a relevant story today. Don't you think i think so. Actually now's diner. There is a mel's diner it's awesome and it Just a little history. I'm during the during the first season of the tv series The producers staggered around necks. Founded diner called. Chris and they asked if the owner chris if she would be interested in renaming it to males so they could shoot the sign outside. Just assign to run into opening credits. Since she agreed and from season to season nine most of those seasons they used opening credits and even had a replica of signed some times on the set if they have a roof of the diner the the diner still exist. Today wind there is a memorabilia section. Diviner a from the tv simmons include scripts and photos different things and also the menu here a have the tv series best day. That diner owners life ever went. When when that deal was made he he would probably love because it was bound to pay dividends like that and always be somewhat of a tourist attraction and now just increases business forever and ever in perpetuity. I guess what a what a great deal. So i seen that why i assumed television show Was your fate. Was you had before that over the over the movie and that's because the cover of the book is a television show. It's i d talk about any of the behind the scene stuff. That were you know happened in the movie making of the movie. Anything special about the direction i know. Martin scorsese anything particular about the cast. I ellen burstyn was on a top of her game that she was one of the best actresses in hollywood and chris. Christopherson was just chris christopherson. He's always had that star quality about him. But what about the rest of the cast by anything special that you can talk about from the movie yet with a civil chapter behind the scenes up the actually ellen burstyn was the Should just finished the If the studio wanted her to have a Now so they gave her scripts from and that's how she ousted Shell she actually liked it because she was drawn to it because the main character was somebody that was pursuing her You know she was the driver of a month and she was the one that reached out to. Martin scorsese even descript optum and decided. She wanted to work selector. So that's how is that Scorsese's quietest the irish men was pretty quiet even though it's a gangster movie but his that his quietest film i mean i don't think any like real. Violence is a little With tommy i don't remember the stalker soon and tommy at his his ranch but not not his first movie that he did it wasn't really more votes And was he supportive of the television. Show being scorsese's taking it just seems to me like a a big time like that might might think trivializing his work a little bit now. I i'm actually not heard about that. I do know that was focused on feature films and not really on tv. So i'm not about it. I will tell you that the networks actually asked all castes. Putting diane ladd played slow. The movie they ask them to come ellen burstyn she was asked Play in the ellen burstyn at another dialogue. She pleads slow in the film but then later after polly holliday last series. They brought diane in that. It a waitress so she did. She was on the show linger which is different. I had to google. What diane ladd look like because i knew the name but i was having just like you know a senior moment. I couldn't remember what you look like And there's not a lotta pictures of her ongoing google Now that cheryl ladd diane ladd. She's starts she has. If you're going to d be she's done. She said a career. I just wondering why. I just couldn't remember her face it all. I can't bring up quick quickly but I suggest she just did a movie last year. Christmas wow so she's she's constantly out there again this is. We're talking forty five years ago so she was an adult then and minimum should be sixty five if she was twenty then but she wasn't twenty. She wasn't a kid then So how old does she think she. Fine eighty five good for her still working great great to see that So are you involved. But by the way how's the book doing is a book being received. Well it is. I have a lot of great collins. And so where do you go from here. With the all year a the have any plans to kind of You know like a mini documentary type of of of of treatment on this are not turns not. I'm actually working on another. What are you looking. I'm working on a book. Bits at the hardy boys. Nancy drew on. Mtv in steve's you so you grew up on television a lot. then you. I think your nose years i would. I you know that those are the years. I was getting in trouble so i don't think i was Home enough to watch television. If i watch television i. I was lucky to catch the end of like tomorrow with tom. Snyder that would be as early as i would ever get home in those days. I wasn't a big big on television and even feature films. I mean i remember the feature sounds a cell but you've had a a pretty Wide variety of things creative things. You've been involved in in your career till the audience about some of the things that you do and sure i loved you. Actually i have an option something. I must play rent And i have a election coming up april eight to eleven with the theater. Productions it's a story about the first african americans alter and it said in the during the civil civil war. That's one thing that will be on a video and online an online play. Yes for an and so. Are you doing it in a theater though. And just like the have a camera or the people at home doing the reading on a massive zoom call. What's what see it's a it's a. It's a high level highly produced Soon presentation with costumes. An and backgrounds very owns are you can find out more information at beacon. Theater productions dot were and if that beacon theater in new york it's in philadelphia was there is a beacon in some various different. I've been so that that's pretty exciting because in you know you have to be pretty flexible. Did you come up with that. The idea to do this Zoom treatment of because you know colbert has kind of put a real damper on a lot of creative people's ideas but it doesn't necessarily have to be the end if creative enough and have a Strong enough desire to to do something different with this was your idea from the start. This production Well i had. This is a short production deals with early life. I have a full But this sort of production. That i brought to the and they were interested and so Your website is growing across the bottom. There's just bury 'em put junior to and so you do not have the The info on on this On your production on your on your side linked to directly from there with a tickets go on sale on the twenty fifth of march so it will be on their duties and under twenty bit. Okay let people can email me through my website. They want one additional put lincoln in description. I just again after going. And get to linked to beacon theater in philadelphia and get that So and we will. We will include that So the television stuff. You still Are you still a big fan of Sitcoms i i do. I like sitcom still I focused most on on on writing today in terms of That's really my focus. Not so much watching sheets. I have my favorites. You deal favorites. I as i mentioned. I don't have television having for thirteen years Just wondering is sitcoms still a big thing because with all these channels and it seems like the so few really good original ideas anymore. Anywhere in Maybe it's because it's just too many outlets. I don't know why but it just seems. Even if we go back to the seventies were very very few original ideas But it just seemed to be getting stale to me. The whole format of succumb what was some of the quill wanted. I don't know about. Have you seen a marvelous. Mrs maisel i have seen any energy. That's an amazon show. That's a good. That's a good show It's a comedy trauma. Show that's That's when check out the supersedes. Here's a question for barry. You forty five years removed from the beginning of when the show started anyway. Thirty five or thirty six from when when a thirty four win ended. Whatever it is that he's six. Ask bad with the map that i do but anyway You we were inspired to write a book about a television show and a movie but do you think forty five years from now. Is there a show. That's out there. Now that somebody will be inspired to write a book about an that means enough to people that forty five years from now somebody to write a whether it's i don't know Three men in baby wouldn't let three men two and a half minutes it'll take i'm easily confused man but isn't that show that somebody's going to be writing about forty five years from now. I'm sure i'm sure dr merely there's always unpacked the publisher that i write flirt. That's really what they special lines up behind the scenes for tv shows and films and biographies for so an in the book. I'm writing the hardy boys and ansi drew. It goes from defensively. The nineteen thirties onto this characters. Up into a just in december that had a new hardy. Boyz tvs You know so. There's constant There's interest in that and people About the inner workings of tv shows. I think what the always be interested in you know in a market And i you know at some point. I was cosby. That started as an. I know to even mentioned. His name makes a lot of people these days. But i think he's the first one that started this idea of ownership taking the ownership away from the networks and owning the company themselves so then we saw people like paul reiser. Come along with the mad about you. Look i'm not that confused And then seinfeld of course and and raymond but people who took that lesson of owning their own chosen got super super rich off of having these ideas so being a television fan is development more towards them the that independent producer now or is it like all Networks you know. Met with chip churning out In in the seventies in this case they were training at remakes of movies. Whatever they're churning out of these days of cookie cutter television shows. Are they still doing that. I would say that this has been for a while. But that you there's the producing company right and deep reduce your show. And then they sell it to the network really funded by the network when they sell their show. She knows the numbers. Wow yeah i'm totally i may Completely removed from pop culture. Which you would think in in in the interviewing world you'd have to have be clued in somewhere but when it comes to television and and and movies and stuff and plays and all that stuff. I'm pretty much unless something really grabbed me. I'm not. I'm not gonna pay attention to it. I just think it's So or in writing for for are you writing for television or you. Ready just For for theatre. I have written to count. I'm right now. I'm doing a lot of audiotape. I rate for three different audience because And you wanna tell us a little bit about that. And so i i write a series of western action adventure of mr series richard wade. Us marshal or a vr's radio. That's one thing back finishing our first twelve episodes and they'll be another six episodes asked that it's It's actually based on a dime novels. An takes place in nineteen ten in colorado Have you have you had the experience to a of that world. I mean obviously not the time period but adbulahat west to kind of Get a good feel of that life. But i've done. Some research actually have specific nineteen hundred. I even have map of the tablet. One thousand nine hundred ten in colorado the wild bunch but you know put cassidy's band about was still running Pretty much as they were rounding them up slowly. But it was still pretty much the wild west in nineteen ten out in much of colorado. So are you a fan of that kind of That time you know that you're you know. Bad guys westerns. Yeah i. I'm just covering actually go because andrea anchored dime novels themselves. You don't take this in any one place they're all over the midwest the we've anchored in in you know lions colorado's off tonight in colorado. But they still go out and they'd have their adventures yet demean charter. Richard wayne davian on youtube. Says we need more three cameras. Sitcoms comeback and taxi cheers now. Taxi taxicab was not related to the movie at all title same title so But but i i was actually a big fan and still am of that world out there and that Dime weston step You know those those novels and that time period of transitioning between the bad guy westerns The eighteen eighties and the early one thousand nine hundred thirty year period. I guess between eighteen eighty and nineteen ten fascinating period especially in that part of the world new mexico colorado and all that stuff They just always had a special meeting. I went out to new mexico to school. Just so i could be around the spirit of billy the kid we we actually set the series of nineteen. Because it's on the cusp of technology razor starting to change so we can have kind of both worlds you can have worsens in those can also have a little bit of more kind of modern field. Bor what's about to calm right. And the model t and that stuff was but i'm not so sure you know a at their a car would have still been treated as like Alien technology is something in nineteen ten. I think i mean in new york and and the east coast in detroit. Of course. I think cars were starting to make a dent. Then i'm not so sure about colorado. What part of colorado colorado which is kind of a north west northwest. Oh oh yeah. That's where all the way. Not yeah So yeah that's not even remotely like the The southwest. It's you know it's west. That's the west interesting interesting time period. You know that you had to do a lot of research. But the research that Include visiting a any of the area to check it out and and see what it's all about right not yet. I actually would like to have another series I do a series of the american revolution Also you're making theater so That's a whole a whole different diverse research involved in that but it's a blend of of a fiction effective character set in a real world working with george washington. Roy longs different Helping him out. I'm getting a lot of that lately. Berry and i'm wondering why you know i with. I always say that. And i get like a broken record at stopping believing in coincidences at all. Because things happen in these lumps and clusters. But i think probably in the last week i've had Probably an talked a lot of authors but probably sychev is in the last week who who have said. They've written a story. That has basically true has a fictional element to it And i'm wondering why all of a sudden at that's hitting me. What what what are you in the university of trying to tell me bay. Did you come to. Who said you. But i kinda take your tire credit like that. One is based on a dime novel of the liberty boys and that was that was not my insurance. You this it seems to be on of a team are trained by joe biden. I'm just in a really weird silly mood tonight. Because i spent like two and a half hours on the phone with tommy chong today so can put me back in two thousand nine hundred seventy four nineteen seventy five anyway. So kind of ready for alice We you know what was going on in the country When the show was taken off though with a pretty bad time. In america i again. I'm i'm just trying to gauge. How old you might have when the show is taken up. I'm guessing ten. I are you younger than that. Okay so are you aware of how. How doc those nineteen seventy. Six to. Nineteen eighty was in america. I i remember hearing smearing well and we had the big celebration for the bicentennial but that was masking a lot of you know the oil shortage in you know Gaslines and in mass recession interest rates Going through the roof and inflation beyond belief gas went from like think it was thirty six cents a gallon up to two dollars a couple of months and it never went down. Never were still basically between two and three dollars so but it's for those people for people living at the time and you were in high school and had your first car and he used to paint thirty six cents a gallon and all of a sudden. It's two dollars and twenty cents. A gallon fat was a huge difference. That was your entire of money for the week. Going into just one tank of gas and dot time dot com. So this show hit the air during probably one of the dockets times and we're and we're recovering from watergate and all that stuff bedtime Did you take that into account when you're looking at the history of show like this and it's Success that's it's really about context. I would say that it in the book release. I do something about that. You talk about the evolution of how mothers are The nineteen fifties up into the nineteen seventy. That's something that is talked about. Indication kinston like up on. Leave it to beaver. Mother was there versus alice. She's She's a mother is a modern mother for that time She's working mother. You know so you get to see the the evolution. I do talk. Yeah that definitely seems to play into that whole women's lib type of type of movement at the time because motherhood and what it meant to be a mother allowed women becoming working mothers and all that stuff one day at a time was another show that came on and that was at that. Similar kind of the mother was different than the east. On sitcoms We did see that evolution. Where is it now. Lucien of of models of the mother as portrayed portrayed on sitcom television shows 'cause the last the last reference were was like mothers that were out of control. Because i'm thinking of and this way dating early nineties eighties sitcoms but like the mother-in-law that of the guy who had his wife there but the mother-in-law was living with them in the mothers of crazy old. I'm thinking like who's who's the boss tony danza. And had that was changing the out the image of women and motherhood and grandmother hood completely saw. Just don't wanna wear. Is it now. Because it was running off the rails. The last time. I paid attention which was a long time ago. Where is it today. I think it just. I think speaking to just what we have today with the modern family. Jim who yeah. I you know what i don't i don't know what that is either because i am very very simple like me my wife and in the house. All by hosea and i do my podcast when my ass off. I don't You know modern family. What that what does that mean. What is modern family dynamic. I know it's There's a lot of one family homes out there You know. I guess that's portrayed in in pop culture to some extent you have to say when you're writing do you. Do you feel like a obligation to kind of stay. Clued into Pop culture and what's going on. I think it's definitely quit yet. To put in context what you're writing about including some things history that's going on at that time In terms of in terms of the books. I guess the scripts. It's important to understand as well. But it's it's on the respective inviting strips And so with how does it start with. You went because writing. A script is to me. It's the same it should be. The same process is if you were gonna writing novel but has has come to you. Do start with a story. I do start with the character idea. I do you know. Do you have the whole thing work. That do you write with post it notes in kind of plotline things. What is your process for developing a story whereas come from it usually comes from a basic. I actually have the whole idea of buying time. I have a spraying. Johnny johnny a couple of hundred miles large and i take that night. Just flushing out Until i have outlined an understanding characters system some background on charters and then that outlined. That's what i used to Now did you get involved with the The business of marketing. Like your book value or do you hand that off to somebody or because i always asked this question of creative people because it seems to me and i know i'm this way if you're really good in business you not really good at art if you really get it all you probably have a struggle little bit business or need some help and business. Very few people are able to walk both lines at the same time. So are you able to walk both lines at the same time we do. You need help in that business area. So i i'm definitely bhosle and i'm excited to memoir about why i think. A lot of writers today on the publishers are asking world workers and they're not doing as much of that marketing rescue providers tichy on more so On book tours. You know if you're doing interviews like this That's more are as yeah Seems to be more important now because there was so much You know you put a book out there. The fact is self publishing. Made it so that anybody can put a book out there. And they're i know they're this quality and quantity but this seems to be an awful lot of quantity and so standing out takes a little more effort a little more Just getting the attention takes a lot. More work doesn't it. It does and also depends what type of buckner writing like. This is frank person civic ons offensive. Show people that love hind the scenes. It depends on what you're hearing way and yeah. That's so i know you. Because i'm a part of a lot of author groups and a lot of the People are the biggest. Frustration is not making any money was the business part. suck for a lot of people right and so But this idea that you you just mentioned basically and you didn't say the word but niche down and and kind of Know who your audience is and right to one. Small target demographic Seems to be at least a guarantee of a an interested audience and so and you bet and you bettering your chances at financial success that way. does that. Sound like a fair assessment japanese. And you really need to know that mark you know what they are interesting What they've seen. What's going to be new. And that's that's one thing about my my current boats hardaway's the nancy drew on. Tv and stays. It has such. It's kind of a across generation as a we'll have reading those books so every generation i interesting but some books are the is not as the who You know i hate to sound make myself sound like a total idiot here but The hardy boyz. I know less about. Allison allison's i face hardy boyz. I know see i remember. Nancy drew mystery. When i was a kid there were a detail. Mickey rooney movies. That were kind of the hardy boyz movies correct in that. There was andy. Hardy as the pets student into heart voiced already the same last name. Andy hardy by alice confusion now. Got hardy confusion. I gotta hardy hardy anyway. So they're not related The hardy boys. In andy hardy and sworn there was a series like like the rosa was a film series to remember. How many at least a dozen films by mgm with mickey rooney and not related not really not really and so. Okay clue me in on. What the hardy boyz was i. It was a mystery show in my right net. It was based on the book The hardwood started a first book. Came out in nineteen twenty seven so almost you know enough to one hundred books and media illiterate guy per series tonight in the nineteen fifties hardy and then the first films for nancy drew out in the late nineteenth servings last they had subsequent they the hardy boys. Nancy drew mysteries of nineteen. Seventy seven was a popular sooners Shaun cassidy proper stevens slim. Shaun cassidy. I know the name i favor cassidy's younger brother. No yes and for some reason. I'm thinking was maybe it was on the same network may be on. The same night is murder. She wrote agatha christie Whatever whatever angela lansbury little leader that wasn't the nineteen eighties really. This was just before. I'm going to have to look it up. I'm gonna have to google it or should i wait till your book comes out Hardy boyz just drawn a complete blank on it And i know i can't i was out i. I was playing rock band at that time. Who knew who knew there was television just to kinda circle back to the alison actually sit. There was the film right outs Bring more and there was the tv series. Alex and then there is a spin off of our. It's called law that just don't let the right And that was actually was thought of during her season. Alice but alice was trying to find. His rounding during the per season is slow the development lower and it didn't come out into so that's the redhead right flow. Just yeah. I kind of vaguely remember that in the back of my fuzzy little brain matter are there's there's some recollection of the show flow. I and she was still in a diner. Yes no she actually moved So the ala bison phoenix arizona but Low took place in a chat room. The called cow. Tom texas and opened a tavern took over a tavern in. She owned a happened so it was like completely separate. Same type of humor but separately. Yeah i stayed in mule shoe taxes for two weeks. It was the longest year of my life. That two weeks Say say yeah fascinating stuff bam glad. You're now let me. Just ask you about this. Dot hardy boyz audience the core audience. Hardy boyz is that the same audience as the house audience. Are they or or do now. Need to build a whole new community for the nisha writing to or a connect with that whole new community. That is part of the niece that you're writing to or one group it's actually. It's it's a large room for the hardy boys. Nancy drew because they have a Onto cw Nancy drew series. It's in its second season right now. Very modern supernatural. So there's there's different types. There's different audiences who different series of the hardy boys and so it's much larger and you kind of more diverse and really for the hardware is not drew where alice. It's specific time. I'm but it's it's on a tv on time. You know you keep our are getting interested in this. Alex is still running now on somewhere in the universe. It is every in a couple of couple of different networks. i'm stream different platforms. Yeah the whole world is changing as far as how stuff gets delivered to him assuming that everything that was any good at anytime will be available on demand through some kinda streaming service One way or another very shortly. I mean it'd be anything you ever wanted to say. You should be able to just pull it up if you willing to pay for it. Somebody's got it online. That you can stream it for right. That's the great thing about it. Maybe maybe catch episode of this and see if it was any good. I don't know i i. I'm always afraid with television stuff. If i like it. I'm gonna get addicted to it. I don't want to be one of those people. Have to watch the next episode working binge-watching. Yeah come a long way alice alice. Well thanks for your time here tonight. Barry i hope we've done you some services tonight. I know i wasn't a very serious mood and Quite confused about a lot of things of. I hope what i want a little. Something tonight was fun. I was talking. Thank you so much for on your show. Oh door's always open my friend a you know when the hardy boys book comes out and please come back in kind of we'll go through this all again and you can teach me all about the boys as if i won't. We have retained a thing that you told me. Well i i appreciate your time here. Bury 'em put a junior junior in the website. No yeah berry berry junior. Dot com is the website folks Hope you'll check out the book. Barry thank you for coming and have a great night. Bye for now by petunia folks. I hope you enjoyed this program. That's it for tonight. I gotta kind of ale light day tomorrow. A white comparably speaking. I only have one livestream show tomorrow and that will be at one pm of another author. Rene murata will be with me. We were supposed to be doing comedy court tomorrow night. with darryl who has another podcast decay project I think that's going to be put on hold while i taped some future episodes of with major celebrities that we will be announcing very very shortly On that note tommy. John will be with me saturday night. Here eight pm special edition of the mind on tv. Podcast this saturday night. P m eastern right here. Then magneto for the mind dog keeping podcasts. Thanks for joining me. Have a great life. Now maybe round man around her era pain off a listen. Listen now this tribute down.

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Joe Caravello and Mark Roberts - Insane Asylum Podcast - Paranormal Investigations

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Joe Caravello and Mark Roberts - Insane Asylum Podcast - Paranormal Investigations

"What rate says insane in the paranormal world. Today we'll talk about it on this episode of the mind dog. Tv talk welcome. I had another episode of the mind dog. Tv podcast. I'm matt napa. Thanks for covered. It's great to have here as always. I'm expecting some technical difficulties. I i'm not sure why the wife is not home yet and i know when the wife comes home. The dog's bark all hell's going to break loose and probably going to have to cover for a second with a commercial or something while i com com is to ship down here for a minute in when i do all hell is going to break loose. Especially they've done some changes to the platform today. So who knows we might have some technical lists of these Most of you know if you watch his show at all or listen to the show at all Basically doing the podcast Doing a livestream. Kinda of like therapy for me except Generally if you're going to therapist and you spilling you go. There aren't a lot of people listening to it now. a couple of days ago. My brother mike called me up. He's in north carolina and he said oh by the way My friends. I really enjoying listening to show which for i just and i said to him Well i guess. I'd better watch what i say he said. Yeah you mean like When you said it. I was a criminal and mom and dad were both criminals in. That's why you left home at fourteen. Because mom and dad were in jail and the cops were about to take me That kind of stuff but actually my credit. I did not say that on this. Podcast i said that as a guest on jerry bradley's podcasts and matter of fact after the podcast was over. I did say that. I probably shouldn't be a guest on podcasts anymore. Although i have been on on several. Because i am What ralph kramden would call up blabbermouth Basically no filter in the should just flows and so i said out of stuff that could not necessarily reflect badly on me. Because i don't really give a shit about me. But people i care about and it although the statute of limitations has run out on a lot of things i might be talking about. it's still. It's still a difficult thing for me to kind of stifle myself and not tell we The real story behind all this stuff so yesterday I'm not sure how many people in the audience know who gathered satis. He's a very far right wing. Commentator you've got a Professor in montreal And he's got a podcast and he's got a book out and he's got a youtube channel and these fe pro cunanan leaning guy Along the lines of jordan peterson guy. Saw a video with him. Talking to a Young lady who i had seen on one of the podcasting sites where podcasters collaborating you'd be on each other shows and i invited the girl on the woman young woman because she seemed to be Very much agreeing with budget re got gad. She'd read his book and was agreeing wholeheartedly. On every everything. He was commenting and i thought. Well since he's dodging me and won't come on here and Give me a real A healthy conversation about some of the things that he proposes. Maybe i get her. So i invite around the show And after she said. Sure i'll be on your show. I did some further research on it. Turns out sees a pretty big porn star I did not know that. When i book but i think that makes everything else a little more interesting a very conservative right wing so I look forward to that conversation. I will let you know when when we actually have a date for that looking like it's going to be happening pretty soon You know you don't necessarily equate point stars conservative I never did. I never thought of that as a conservative values. The conservative christian right that i know about anyway tonight. We're gonna talk about paranormal stuff. And as you know if you know me and you follow me and and you know my history at all. I started my first radio. Show in nineteen eighty eight strictly devoted to paranormal stuff. And i've had people on who were Pretty extreme in belief system in the things they believe that i had Preston nichols who wrote the montauk project on. He bought Ed alec who claimed to be on the philadelphia experiment ship with his soul mate. Saw transfer duncan cameron. Who they they said they were the same person they were split by. The philadelphia experiment is seoul. Was split into two bodies so that people like that on had You know lots of ghosts people. Ufo people bigfoot people all that kind of stuff that stuff is kind of tame thirty some odd years thirty three years later But my guest. Tonight hosts a podcast. That is dedicated to that stuff. And it's called the utterly insane podcast. And i think by today's standards All that paranormal stuff is now normal Because there's a super power power power. Paranormal super-duper extra Double probation paranormal like The stuff q. And on and Those people are spreading right now which To blows away. Any of the stuff. That i think oh i think of his paranormal ufo research and all that kind of stuff but it should be an interesting. We'll find out what these guys are digging into. I gotta briefly really quickly talk about my sponsor to get them in here. Because i know. I've wasted a lot of time already to show is brought to you by card. Cash cod cash dot com. You say what the hell is card. Cash dot com well founded in two thousand nine card cash dot com provide an answer to to common questions. What can i do is always fucking gift cards on them us. And how can i easily save money. card cash pays for unwanted gift cards and then sell those cuts at a great discount. So you can make money and save money. It's just that simple Card cash dot com. If you're like me the holidays just passing you. 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Joe caravel and mark roberts hosted utterly insane podcast which by my measure is probably the utterly saint podcast by now but anyway let's Without further ado please opening ears. Open your minds and help me welcome in Mark and jo jo in march to the might not be podcasts. Guys welcome gaming. I'm doing well. Thanks thanks for coming by the way. What's going on out in wisconsin besides choosing in lakes. Snow arsov lafayette. You know. I think i got Some of it. Some of your weather of this week we. We got about seventeen inches on monday and then another eight inches on tuesday very unusual here. Are you guys still use to adding big snows. That in awhile depends. Sometimes we get some heavy snow of likes works so Talk to me about paranormal. And what got you interested in why you're doing it in the why of what you're doing. Yeah we can either one either guy who feels comfortable answering these questions but why what got. You started with paranormal stuff. Well we had a change because we were pretty much taken too. Many people off We serve the podcasts. Because mark and i have known each other for a long time so we started this podcast and all of a sudden you know it was based on a car ride because we're just cracking everybody up. That was in the car with us ad We got to talk about everything and we found out. We weren't getting many followers many listeners and it was because we were talking. I guess in our minds. We're telling it like it. Is you know and and it piss off the followers that will happen. I i don't mean to interrupt but okay you can. Yeah but i want to know how long you measured that. Not getting any follows because the podcast game. It's a long. It's a long haul game long yellow late. We decided that Editor what got us switched. But we decided he came up with the idea that decided in two thousand nine hundred ninety. Go paranormal. and we've been doing amazing things since then mark. What was it about paranormal. You made you say. Let's bats away to go instead of just telling it like it is and giving people are straight up opinion about things. Let's do something creepy. Well the thing is with with what joe is saying. What we were doing is is mostly religion politics in the beginning and we found after about a year so just little over a year we were actually taking too many people off and not anybody the foul so because i have a background in feel and i also have done this since i was a kid. I mean like old enough to understand. My mom would always tell me up true stories or she claimed a true stories about seeing her dead sister being able to see ghosts. So i got an interest in it. And i've been doing it for a long time. And then joe he'd kinda has had interested so i thought hey why not. You know. it's something that you see on tv. Something that's happening now and it's becoming more of a norm for everybody to be able to see Or you know. See this on television or c- Like articles or anything like that so because of that we decided to go in and we like joey said we started in two thousand. Nineteen and We've vengeance rockets since then so called slowed down. Last year. kobe did slows down lashes. We weren't able to get out dismal. Just wanna do get now defined. Let's define paranormal exactly. What you'd mentioned ghosts. What else do you get involved. Well low we talk at all we we. We have no restrictions on when it comes to paranormal. I mean we've we've seen things that we believe are probably some kind of ufo Were looking into the beast of bray road which is also the same thing it's michigan dog. Man i'll michigan dog man you we well aware wolf like creature that's been seen And the thing that's interesting about bray road area in wisconsin here in our corn Is that. it's actually on native american. Effigy mounds around that area. One actually crosses railroad and it ties into a lot of the native american wars. Let's be unseen there. But at the same time very roads like a two bub two mile or so very dark road out in the middle of nowhere you know like deep country woods on both sides. The lights from the houses won't even light it up. No street lights very dark. I can because we're in wisconsin. We've got wolfson coyotes. Misidentification happening a lot there too. Have you seen it no. We haven't seen it but we have seen some pretty strange evidence because we have been on a farm there and were there eight hours talking to an individual that owns a hey farm and we plan on going back and doing an investigation because there is a lot of creepy stuff going on around that area. What would what would you say is Be craziest or most out their story that you've looked into most craziest that nothing comes to mind because i asked i've had people i mean i've been doing this for thirty one years so I've talked to people with a lot of crazy things. And i bring up. I asked him to anything pointblank. Is there anything you won't believe in some of the sometimes. The door opens to these paranormal belief systems. And then people to okay. Ufo's the possibility and yes. They are Big sure that's possible. And then the more you start embracing these ideas. The more anything could become possible. And i put out the question to to several guests over the years. Is there anything you won't believe in. And say i keep an open mind and i said well. Like what about the easter bunny. Oh to some people. It's the east of money So the question is like what. I'm not crazy. Maybe but what is the thing. That kind of Might have covered. That made you say wait a minute. This is kind of even way out there. Even for a guy like me who believes in ghosts and wolves bannon dog man and what we've run across any yet. That's that's wow. Now we've been. We've been studying. More of the wisconsin. The wisconsin lore and stuff. And that's where we're starting so we're exploring all the the the local legends that are around this area and some that are just outside of the state. We don't want to travel too far yet. I can dig. That travel can travel can suck but you know with with the stream yard stuff at zoom meetings and stuff people People can do these interviews remotely and you get to talk to a lot of people and Have you guys heard of the quantum bigfoot. Not not the quantum bigfoot. okay. I think that what that would actually guy. What are you kind of an interventional creature in the that. The reason that daycare are they Disappearance like a portal or into another dimension before we can catch them. That's correct as an author. Ron i forget his last name now. it's not coming to me but i had him on this program That that not that. Bigfoot is a missing link from evolution to us but he's he's next step in evolution from us to these The future us who can travel between Dimensions and You know alternate universes and all that kind of stuff around. I can't think of rounds last name right now. But he's got a book called the quantum bigfoot and Basically you know he starts to take stuff out there and he's one of those guys doesn't doesn't draw the line anywhere in in. What is you know. Be on the realm of believable. So is there anything you guys would not accept if i said there's an easter bunny in wisconsin when you go Would you go i. I'm actually actually one. That might on stuff like that. Because you've got to remember all all legends. Myths are based in some fruits but k. So like dragons for instance. Dragons are considered a myth. Well what made people think that dragons real there. There had to be some truth behind it to start that that aspect of it I wing ferries ferries in the fe and the gnomes. You know stuff like that. What is to say that those aren't real Scientific no proof that actually ever was anything like that and here. Here's the thing. And i i get way going with that but You you say well they had to be be based in fact Because somebody believed that. That's not true we we have had. I said all this legends have some truth behind. Well that's not. That's not true You omit that There's a secret jewish space laser starting from forest fires out in california. Is that true any. That's not a myth. That's that's just flat out lie. Wasn't it so. How do you determine the difference between that story in the easter bunny because and get first of all. Easter is a sacred holiday in the catholic religion to kinda dumb it down to a bunny delivering chocolate. is kind of sacrilege to people who are but those are the people who actually would buy into it so They has to be some terminent in the paranormal investigation. I know you had christy summer. Some on and she would tell you that she She would agree with that. She believes in ghosts but she also a high degree of discernment. And saying you know something has to pass the sniff test before actually. We saw just on that point. I just think that there are some things where you have to say. Well that just a little too far fetched for me I understand about a keeping an open. mind though. So they're so with my story about alec and you know what you guys are familiar with the philadelphia experiment. Yes yes. I've i've read looks that and i've actually seen articles ansi movie but i know that movie is a hollywood in nineteen ninety. I had Preston nichols on. Who wrote them onto a project. Any brought albay lick albeit claim to have been on the philadelphia eldredge In the philadelphia experiment and that When the experiment happened he came back and his soul was cut in half and he was now two. People duncan cameron was with him and so he that story Et al basically related to me and duncan related to me. They will finish thirty at the same time that they were the same person at one time before. This philadelphia experiment. This saul split into at some point. Dunkin went to mars and met jesus and elvis on mars now with that with that. Put up a red flag for you. Say this is kind of forget know. There's just too crazy eac kinda would Also yasser gotta think to on this negate. We have the rovers that are on mars there and they're way way past their expiry date. And then we have a couple of you know. There's a couple of videos from the rovers themselves showing that the solar panels have been cleared off. And they don't have devices on these rovers to clear those solar panels off winds. How did that happen bat. I can. I can understand you questioning. How did that happened. That's a healthy. That's a healthy sought but the an unhealthy thought is jesus and elvis. Were up there cleaning off the mirrors am. I don't think so the thing is to whenever you bring up that s You know if if that did happen where they because according to the philadelphia experiment what they were doing trying to create invisibleshield type situation with the elderly and what they actually did. Is we send it through time. And then when it came back not only just like weird crazy things happening you had Some of the crew actually melted with the ship. Be that was that was what would be claim out. You know and and so so this is you're talking about if that actually happened to console split now. My question is this. Because there's there's this is a theory of time travel call. It's a paradox theory. Where you meet up with yourself. You cannot occupy the same space. It yourself occupied can't have anything to do with you. Wind up touching yourself or bumping into your own own self. You nullify each other and you disappear from time light so if this happened to this this gentleman how is it they would be able to be in the same place same time and oddly touch if they were a split sole without somehow reemerging reemerging for. I've both dead now. So i can't ask them that but I believe me. I was extremely skeptical with them. Just trying to ascertain like way. Your level of belief system is because everybody. I think a anybody who gets into the paranormal field. They start with some degree of skepticism. But i think the longer you stay in it that wavered in could grow. It could be. I will get less You know it depends on the person in your experiences in it and the kind of people you meet because even though there are people out there who will give you cause for considerable at investigation and series investigation. There are a lot of fucking crazy people out there just dreaming and making shit up and we don't make enough. We let you decide what you don't even jump to conclusions when we go out on best. The gatien's you know if if i feel that we've caught something on on video or on audio. Get it right away. Because i don't want to set that out and say hey look i caught this. Listen or look at this. Sure i wanna make apps on the kind of person. I'm basically my own more skept wrote it. Is that place to be feel. If i watch footage that i took and i say okay. This looks like us something here. I wanna go recreate it. It's like recreate it. Get if it's something. I can't recreate and i can't explain then up to you. Decide what it is. And i'm going to let you look at it and say what do you see right. Well just tell you the history mostly the history about place what we find you know. As far as information that we can find on different places or locations. We look into the history and the background. But we don't jump to conclusions right. We try not to jump to any conclusions because we're not tv. We're not sitting there doing this for ratings or stuff. We're looking for answers the and if we can't find the answers are we can't figure out what it is we're gonna put it out there and hopefully maybe somebody else might have an opinion of what it might be right so Our our i'm with you. That's where my i come from. And i call that being a sceptic rather than a cynic when i first started this You know thirty. One years ago. I came to it as a magician of somebody who was who knew every kind of way the trick and and kind of fool people and i wanted to debunk it. I was heavily cynic. But i became more and more open minded towards the possibility of some of it and You know as i mentioned that stuff goes but now i am definitely The position where. I think it's really healthy to keep an open mind be Be accepting that. Anything is possible but question at nass for evidence. And that's why you know when when we bring up things like the easter bunny i said well. Yeah that that's fine. Anything is possible but show me some ebba. Real evidence of anything related to an easter bunny. And when you do that a serious inquiry. I mean nobody can really show you any evidence now i. I don't want to beat up on the easter bunny too much. He's a nice guy. let him off. But i that that's just an extreme example that i often go to. It's like where do you believe weady. You draw the line on what even look into so. Have you guys looked into glad earth stuff have you had to flatter people on you know. I haven't would you not sure if that's even considered normal. Oh sure it is Well maybe i think that's more lawn consp- i think it's more along the conspiracy theory lines. You know that that that would fit in like doing these specials that we've done on elvis's really alive or not you know it is but there is a paranormal Element to it for certain that they don't believe that their space they believe that we glass bubble and somebody is. The son is actually light. That's the guy. Whoever that guy is he's moving that light over the glass bubble. And that's the that's the sun son isn't real. It's a guy with a big guy with a light bulb flashlight. going on Yeah gravity doesn't exist. I mean if you if you really get into the heavy Discussion with some of these people Yet they are extremely undependable. And you know. I consider religion panel so when some of that does come into that. You know when you're when you're into the paranormal field you're gonna run into religion a lot and the religious acts aspect to the flat is now. They're a lot of divisiveness within the flatter movement as well but there's a whole religion part of it believe says that The globus low tides. Like i like me. are are controlled by satan And so you know there. Is that element to it. Okay so you haven't Talked to time travel stuff flatter. It's about time travel. Have you have you looked into the time travel. No i haven't talked to anybody in the train. Time travel order with either. But i have done Watch videos in debt reading type travelers wealth. This is disgusted between us. Yeah this is all all the science of. I really low so i i over the years. I've actually studied right so with the sidesteps. The continuum like multi-diverse Paranormal studies or not. That i would probably because i mean Who's to say that there isn't there's nobody yet. Then you know that and then and and if you want to take that a little further we right now Scientists right now have they called eater and they actually claim that. This computer is communicating with other computers. That are made identical to it in a different universe. And therefore that's why aching they can do the calculations and quick as a theory that into paranormal. Yes it does. There are things in this world that happened that that it's a little difficult to explain and they could actually be glitches in the matrix there again. The theories are we living in a major an adb. You had a An opportunity to talk to anybody on your show about that anybody. Any local Wisconsin people not yet julius booking. He's we just started. We just started the guests Thing because of the co vet now. Here's the interesting story about this We like to go out and investigate. In the summertime winter i hibernate and there's a reason for that to me to the somber fourth nineteen ninety five. I was diagnosed with what was called a mobile mia. Okay it's very rare in adults. At the time i was in my late twenties. Okay i wasn't supposed to live to see christmas that year. That's how severe was okay before they could get this new treatment at the time that just just got available. Thanks to saint jude's They they started doing plasmapheresis. And i was at the. Uw hospital in madison. So they're like the best hospital in the madison area. And i died like five times. Roughly in the head of us battles to to bring me back. And yeah. I've and since then a lot of things have been happening that i can explain. Well now you know. I'll have the weird dreams where i can. I used to have them but they became more frequent after this and it probably has something to do. When one of the times that i died. I remember kind of floating above my body and hearing them out in the waiting room area just outside in the emergency room the hospital at the time so and they were taking care of my mom because she had heart issues and they were trying to get her heart surgery again. She was having problems. It was racing too much and she was having a heart attack. So i remember that and they took. My mom actually told me that afterwards. My brother did. But i had to go through a complete bone marrow transplant and everything and i only had one brother so i got lucky. I've been through more and survived more stuff than you can just probably imagine so that led to you belief system or or tracking down or it helps but it also you know i. It also has You know i'm always curious you in high school. I had a teacher. A science teacher. anything's possible. And we tried. This tried to come up with things that weren't possible and the say. Oh yes you did this way. It's pasta bake your lifetime to do it. You know but you know he eats sit there and tried to debunk everything. Everybody say so. I'd sit there. Okay you know. And i was insecurity. I sp- studying to become a cop. I was a private investigator for a short time. As well so yeah. I'm i'm looking for answers that near death or five near death. Experiences as you as you had Did that make you a more religious president. You have any faith at all the dea believe in afterlife so no. I told my mother that she asked me to go to church. One morning before. I married my wife my mother-in-law she has been to go to church with one morning. I told her if i stepped into a church. She believe in spontaneous combustion and that's what she did so. I knew we were going to get along. I don't believe. I got a belief. But i don't go to church right. Well i i wasn't asking about church and necessarily religion but the egg paradigm or the model. That would giving a. I believe there's something after. I just don't know what i do. Have i did get a gift out of it as people would call it. But i don't own it i don't practice it. I've actually kind of ran from it. Because i live out in the country and i distance myself from people I used to be able to to When i was before the leukemia as able to tell if something bad was going to happen before it happened and it usually was somebody close to me. After the leukemia. I was able to get more specific. You know what it was and who it was. And i'd get the cau- within hours or maybe a couple of days. Wow do you guys believe in The entity That is associated with evil whether we call it or not. Do you believe The you believe there is a a dock force evil force there has to balance. Yeah you do. Think of it as a personification Like whether you call eight not think of it. As a personification. I think myself firstly in unlike joe. I'm not really religious and they haven't been. I grew up as a pentecostal. My parents make me go to church. And i am a non practicing wiccan. But i do believe that. There are equal amounts of good and evil. And the manifestations of our what the want to see the evil both what they want they know what they wanna see and then whenever they experienced it. That's what they're see so if you're taught in in religion of to look and see half man half goat that's already in in in the horns and the pitchfork. That's what you're gonna see but you got to also realize that was stolen from aliens by the I my my real curiosity. And because i do believe there is a all evil now the manifestation of it and how it works. I don't know but my my huge curiosity is when how it manifests in and when we see Somebody who appears to be pure evil whether we look at like somebody like the night stalker. Richard ramirez our. I go lower but are sorry. I knew as women's uses in my eyes. she was pure evil and she was a grandmother of my youngest. I won't the question is if you believe that about somebody no matter who it is and you know it could be. Mother-in-law could be adolf hitler. Do you think they will born evil. Do you think they were born in evil baby and grew into evil adult. Or you think it's acquired through our lives and an experience in an environment. I don't believe anybody as warning. I believe everybody is born neutral and as you're growing up in the experiences that you have in the way you're taught as you're growing up is what forms you into our. I don't know. I mean there are just some people that were evil like at a very young age that it started and did some pretty horrendous things and just kept going on until they got clock right. Yeah look at dom ner didn't he kill his own mother at a young age. I think he started by killing young animals and stuff like four or five. Yeah yeah i mean you know. Yeah so that's what that puzzles me. I think that does have a paranormal aspect to it. Like the nature of evil itself. Because you know. I don't know if this falls into your categories study but i think demons are clearly on the The radar of paramount paranormal study. And so i kind of like what is the nature of of of even within human beings is to me a fascinating thing. Because i look at people that you mentioned dahmer or anybody who will seemed to have it at such an early age like it couldn't have been environmental had. Where does it come up. I think they can be. Oh look at look at how manson claims that he was. You know manton hannity a trial lots and lots of trauma is growing up you know and then pretty much institutionalized most of his life until all of that started manson is also unique in Legal annals in that. He's the only guy who has ever been convicted of a murder that we knew he didn't do right now but he while you eat. That's a tough. That's a tough player row but but yeah it is it is it is what it is. I mean he was able to control those people and get them to do what he wanted and he did it all by feeding them drugs and you know praying and pray and and you know some of them went from broken homes or broken you know. Something was broken to begin with and preyed on that. He was good at it right. Yeah just a curiosity for me. It seems to me that what you guys are looking into Especially if you're talking about local is what we call. crypto You know beings. I guess. I don't know bigfoot Men wolves theology allergy You know our how wide is that field. Is there a lot of because i you know. We know about like most of them with man. There's there's there's some of them. I mean it's not all of that i mean we've gone to haunted cemeteries that were haunted by spirits We've done private home investigations. That the first one that we did was probably the most interesting one. Because i paid for it for a couple of weeks afterwards. It was down the stairs leading up and down the stairs but it was really weird because they were saying they see. I didn't see it. We looked at the footage later. We're in the basement and We had technical difficulty with a piece of equipment. which where. Everybody swears that. I turned it on. And i put it on the show but it didn't get nothing was off. It was like it. Shut itself off but the batteries were off fresh. There was in this small little area. I was taken readings with. Ems little voice. Yeah it was a voice recorder. That i sat down. It was a voice before that i sat down. I turned it on. And i said they started the questioning of like vernet. Vp session. I was going around with the f. meter you know. In that little alcove and meantime somebody was back behind me with a video camera. And they saw orbs. Now there's no dust and in also old site air movement. No insects down there. Now so they saw these orbs and they were moving through my leg now. We went and reviewed this footage couple of weeks later as we were about to added and stuff. We're reviewing it. He was reviewing it and telling me things. I reviewed it again. And i realized that the same leg that the orbs kept going through right at my knee was the one that was in pain for about. Two weeks of chemo. Chemo induced neurath apiece. My legs are very weak. Insensitive begin with. Wow so and he's still on chemo. Now no no no no no. I've been I got cleared about ten years after two thousand five was last bone marrow biopsy that they did so and i've been clean. You know clear of it since since lucky. It's just did a lot of damage to my body as far as muscles nerves so i live in a lot of pain but at least i'm alive. You know you know. I fought for my kids to be alive because my youngest was born six months. I was diagnosed. Wow so What do you what do you make of Different kinds of like And a moving on from ghosts now. But 'cause go seem to be like you know it's generally accepted like when when we're talking about insane. It's like that's nuts. There's not too many people would think while that's really out there ghost stories now Ufo's it within the ufo community people who embrace the idea of you of you're going to get so many different idea so many different opinions so many different Theories about what's going on who they are what they are wet. What they really are. What it really is. You guys have any belief systems on that or you still question. I can't tell you who they are. But i can tell you they're not from here. You know. And while if i if i if i were to believe that we're the only people on a planet in the universe but i'd be pretty ignorant. I agree with that. I agree with that with if you look at the number of possibilities for where life could exist. Even within the known universe The odds of of us being the only planet was intelligent life on our miniscule. I'd like ridiculous. But how do you know the peop- the things that people are seeing or experiencing our necessarily from there and not like time travel is or something like that. How do you know that. I don't i mean there's something that just can't be explained on identifying objects so off. That's why i question you when you say. I know they're from here. I mean how do you really know that they could be from here and just time travels and all but there are so many different things and so i. I always questioned what you are overall few because so many people have so many different ideas. What's your personal Belief about what what's going on. I know what's going on. I still trying to figure that out. I mean we've we had a friend when we started doing this. We had a friend contact me and unfortunately when we went out to see him you didn't show up but he had all these pictures that he sent to us of so-called ufo's Quite a few of them. We're able to bunk because we knew the madison area and we knew where he lived so we knew what some of those pictures were but others. We couldn't quite explain at all they didn't make sense and then we've gone down to the place like bray road looking for the beast of bray road and we end up finding more than we bargained for with some more pictures that were taken by trial camps. Okay this guy has tro cam. Said he sits out you know and then he goes back. They'll annoy because it's just for. Hey the farms just for hay harvesting hay for his horses and he's got these trail camps set up in east caught some pretty interesting things and quite a few of them were in the sky and we can't figure out what they are. I'm mean there is one or two that we've got a pretty good idea. That was probably some kind of maybe military jet or something but the rest of them. We have no idea right. And when you see military pilots coming out and talking about their experiences and saying i flown everything. The military has that's not manmade give you a question about it again. There's so many different experiences whether you're talking about And the description whether the if Grays greens whatever There's so many different ideas as submersible Unidentified submersible objects all all kinds of stuff. It's hard to not so you think it's all one phenomenon or you think there's more than one single phenomena and that's why was confused by nine different species on this planet is sites. Well how do you. How do you know that nine different species. I've heard green grades had. Where do you get lands screens. As their whites. There are nordics are the not here. Are have their the originals. That started everything myself. Personally i have seen alien craft in the sky. I when i was eight years old. My mom and i both watched this. Huge triangular are square shaped square shaped object. Come completely over the house. My dad had a fifty foot. Cbs dan on the house in this name cleared and it was bigger than our house. Had they had all these lights on it we watched. It went over the house off in the distance. S when i lived in california when i moved here to wisconsin. I've seen three of them already here. What's not like five o'clock in the morning before the sun came up when i was working arby's out my route i wash is think Just come right in is that one was trained lert ship it was moving very slow and it came in had lights on it. And i've seen one that looked like a fireball. Coming out of the sky got in behind the cloud in lost like. We're hick going next thing. I know it's going opposite rex. Ever seen a meteorite. Do that. no but again. And i've had those. I've had similar experiences to that but what to the conclusion that it's necessarily alien and not anything else that could possibly be. I mean if we if we keep our minds open to the possibilities what say at a time travel from from the future on planet. Earth rather than alliens. Well no. i'm not saying that it's not time travel but you do it with an alien craft. That's a question that it's an alien okay. The reason i say alien craft the people that are looking at people that see these thinks. It's alien to them. It's something they have ever see. That's that's a different definitions. Oh i think we agree on that definition of alien sure. I i'm with you I think most people think of when you hear the word alien extraterrestrial which you know from if i was going to extraterrestrial craft. I would say that extra thrash okay. I have seen these things. And i see there of are unexplained i actually. I've seen some wearing shit out here to you guys. When you say out here you guys kind of far apart or you are in the same thirty minutes. Yeah we're we're about thirty five minutes from each other I live in in a town of axa lives in a town of watertown. Gotcha so we're and we're actually. He's been actually out docs. I'm out in the country. So on one side of towns you mentioned the rep billions. And i wanna be. I wanna go there for the second. Billy corgan from Smashing pumpkins the ear. Familiar with him He had a story about Music executive transforming into a reptile ian in front of him What do you make of that. Well i can kind of believe it. They've they've actually reptilian. Johnny was smoking. I'm with you on this one either. Billions have been around for a long time. They they are. They don't actually guiding us and they've also been keeping humans in in kind of stasis of fear and uncertainty right because that is they eat on that energy is what those affiliates feed on if even if even if except that belief system mocked his question. I would have for this now. Why divulge yourself to billy corgan of all people and if you're going to divulge yourself to one musician as the head of museum like why would he be in an and business but if you're going to do so divulge yourself to one rockstar. Why not every star or other rockstars. Why one or or or maybe one. That's more of a legend. Here's the here's an here's a here's a question to that did he. Purposely divulge himself Quite did his did. His is a device which cloaks him malfunction at that time. You know what. I'm going to have to go back and watch the tape but i think my assumption of from the first time i listened to billy corgan prescription of it. It was an intentional thing. Like he was showing him to put a fear of a reptile. Then if that maybe he did that in order to gain energy that nine maybe he needs that knowing that that would eating into thing I would definitely you know. I'm with gel. I think he would have done it to somebody. Bigger than billy corgan Maybe britney spears. I don't know you know. I don't know but so that that's one you know i. It fascinates me. This people can go there. He's actually seen them So do you make of The information or the information leading You believe it is part of a disinformation case. campaign like when pentagon comes out and says they are in Possession of a craft not of this earth. You think that's a real story is meant to throw people off the track. we've been infestation of crafts. That will have the spurs ninety forties The crash of roswell the famous roswell crash of the of that that saucer. That's the only one you really hear about. You don't hear about the other. Two that were that had crashed that were in the same area. New weapon system that the united states government base of. Microwaves make they. They were using michael. We've beings and they crashed the ships on purpose and then we wound up Salvaging now we have our own crafts. The united states has graphs over backwards. they took took these things hearts and figuring out how they work over the years right. Well that's not exactly the question i i. I hear what you're saying but the question is do you think them releasing the information is the real story or i think it's a little ball. I think i think they're kinda sitting there like okay. We're going to release this just to see you know tests. The weather's stuff and say okay. We'll let people decide whether they want to believe that. But maybe it's also at the same time. Okay the release something and it's like the subtle the public you know for a little while so. They stopped digging. Stop asking questions. So they don't find out. The total truth could be possibly hiding. I would i would tend to agree with you on at least some of that and understand that Now here's here's the big question. I always have when it comes to that. What is the big fear of the government. Or whoever is withholding information. What is the big fear that keeps them from in your mind. Anyway we opinion about letting this information. Just be out there and let everybody to have real access to that information. Why are they afraid of. Well hanoch maybe well. The whole thing is when they originally started covering this up. That was that is what they claim was he. Region thing is to hold down the panic they didn't want people panicking and a little little out at a time allotted time a little bit of time but now it knows because naral. Now what the government's furious. And i believe this is capital because if the information of help us having all this technology comes out people are going to want it being released and so it can help the world itself not not just line the pockets of controlling populace the ones that are controlling. All this are making money off of it. It always comes down to follow the money. Doesn't it Yeah i i have big problem when when conspiracy theories you with the word day. They'll because i always want to say Please give them a name. Give the they. When you anytime you say they. Let's let's let's civic names on there. Because i it's But you can see now. 'cause we talked a little bit earlier about Flat earth falling into conspiracy theory every conspiracy theory has some lap over with paranormal stuff. In in some in some way and so we see a lot of that so You know if you look at the moon landing and some of the things That claimed about that What's really on the moon. Guys have any opinions on that strong beliefs about some of them have said that that that first moon landing was done in hollywood studio or all of that but also some people who have said that were there were other beings on the moon Who who knew we were there. We found footprint. You know all that kind of stuff before any of that kind of any kind of I believe there's probably life possible there. You know they might have seen something you know. But you know if you're in your indigenous to you know native to that planet you're gonna know how to hide to well considering how how. How much of of shot steady heavy and the the the missions. That may have taken up there. I from i was. I'm older than you guys. i think And sell it was it was. I watched it or at least believe i watched it live But i was enthralled with my. You know my brother and mom both worked for gremlin who were Working on the lam module Years before it actually happened. We you know we live that stuff. When i was a kid moon. Massive stuff was every young kid was fascinated with it. We file yeah So join the sixties everybody. Every little kid was fascinated with it so we started a lot with joan in school. And we'll well during during the broadcast astle allegedly lost communication with the astronauts. Or minute or something. I think it was minutes getting kind of approaching landing. Yeah right well. It was after it was after armstrong had had stepped his foot onto the moon in everything in his one small step for man one large to mankind and what it was is nasa. Cut the feet at the the sound feet. I think even the video but they also they cut that to regular public but they had the medical channel still recording and they've got recording of the astronauts telling mission control that they are here. They are sitting on the ridge watching us. So i would tend from from your description of that you you believe. I do believe that. Yes no wait wait wait. I got a question. Just to play devil's advocate because back. Then i if i'm not mistaken back then correct me if i'm wrong back then. Wasn't there like a race to see who gets to the moon. I yes and and we actually just russia. Russia was was that's he brings a good point because russia actually was supposed to land two days before us and they said that Big crashed and but so it it. It crashed into the moon's surface rather than actually had a scheduled landing but that was two days before we landed So who's to say. It wasn't really russia that he was talking about then they in otherwise they didn't really crash. They're here. They're over the rich and looking at us. Okay possible but i'm just saying i'm saying that using that k. And that that was never broadcasted but To hear that in in armstrong actually is armstrong in aldred right. But i'm trying to remember the other one that was emissions after that did an interview. They actually talked about gordon kupa. I'd say it might might've been cooper. They he they did an interview actually involved that they had found Stuff that shouldn't be there if you're if you're if you're looking at it in saying that it's it's a planetary body that doesn't have an atmosphere doesn't have any life on it. The things they found should be there when you when they say up shouldn't be there. I just think like a hash. Pipe another thing too. You have a couple of the astronauts never when they're when the landing or the module took us lifted off again and the bell housing when they drop it they actually said when he hit the mood. The mood vibrated. Ah rang out like a bell. There's there's a stuff saying that the nassan at one point nasa set a new cup. They're in actually exploded exploded tests reverberations. Move wow so my takeaway from hearing you tell. That story is i would. I would tend to assume that you believed moon landing was real in that faked. Yes i do believe it was okay. Y you know there. Is that big conspiracy theory still to this day. That it was faked. Like joe said jack. Ma Hollywood films because there was a movie that came out right around that time You know jason within it but kappa. Corn wanted something about a right around the time to conspiracy. Theories started forming. Where the mo- in the movie. It was exactly that it was faked. And they shot it in the hollywood Trump's at then they were gonna kill the astronauts and but it was a drama. But that's what gave birth to the old spiritually theory part of it so it's good to hear that i'm a believer that they actually did land on the moon. I had a guy on the show. And you know it's Seems we have a lot of robert on the show. And that. just one but The real jimmy roberts familiar with him and his work. No jimi robert today. More mars mars fan that he's been on the show twice now and jimmy claims to have any at photographic evidence from the rovers. Hi hi rez stuff. That he's gotten off a nasa site. He claims that Mars was inhabited up until Ninety thousand years ago there was a nuclear war on mars. Wiped out all the people on there. But he's got a lots and lots of pictures and evidence that somebody else is moon stuff. He's very involved in this stuff Marsh fan dot net and the real jimmy roberts. I would check out his stuff if you're interested in that angle outed but again when when we talk about space when we talk about you of all possible extraterrestrial lifeforms there are so many different theories and ideas out there that it just muddies the waters in leaves you really what's real and what's not real so it's easy to say well of course if all that's real then sure why not ripped reptilian stu and and everything else so it. It's kind of weird where it's just too much information too. Many different opinions and ideas out there with very little concrete physical evidence proof that we can say is dead reptilian. That's the thing they leave their debts anywhere for mankind final. Well if if they've been hiding from us this entire time or living amongst us having their their hollow projectors what everyone all that would deceive us would they want to leave any of their in any other evidence. Any other dead Around i i don't know i i'm not in their mindset but i can't imagine what they have to lose their that far superior to us wanted afterward oh you know what would be the concern but then but then again who is to say. There's not the real men in blackout. They're covering it all up so that you don't find evidence have to be a lot of them though. Wouldn't it not sure i mean how many. How many do you think year. I don't know. But i mean for the men in black seem to have a lot of stuff to cover up. I mean it's like every day we have a new thing to cover up and April out there that believe that the real yeah that blacker real yeah. I think. I'm pretty sure there are men in black men dressed in all black who work for the government who or for private organizations of private security firms. That have a mission to keep the truth from getting public. There's no doubt in my mind that we have What i would call People who who work for the secrecy Part of the security security world. I mean i. I've known some people who could be described as men in black and they didn't work with the government but they their goal is to wear dark clothing and shut people up. Yeah so there are definitely app. I can attest to diagnose some people's to walk. I know by name and i couldn't name him but i don't want my i don't want to be killing But yeah i definitely could see men in black just so much out there. What what's on the horizon for you guys. What do you want to. What do you wanna take it as far as investigation as there's something new rip that you're really interested in say You know other than ghosts in and quit though. Zoology and all that kind of stuff what are you. What will interest you. Well i want to get back into Studying wicca and i also wanna get the bill or having the ability to go traveling. Hesitant country induce. That's the gatien's or places here in the united states investigations back into the investigation. I loved. I love doing this this exchange of talking and sharing knowledge. But i i really want to get out hands-on start doing that's with you. That's a difficult thing. I when you get the equipment for this is like a ghost hunter story. No actually there is a couple of them out there that you can actually find sure but Most of our stuff. I've got most of my equipment office amazon. What ten slipping her normal equipment actually category. But you know what we use mostly is just video cameras of voice recorders and night vision. We have the ones that are capable. Version thermal imaging cameras. What about fear. Do you have any fear. No i i know how y'all the were they. Actually the worst fear. I have is if we go out looking for something and we're unprepared for what's native. That can tell us you know like the bears or the the mountain. Lions or the cougars around here. Are the wolves the coyotes. You know some of that stuff you know but most of the time here. They're more afraid of us than we are of them so they usually just scatter anyways. You know where. I am a reality that we don't deal with and i don't think most people know that we once you get out of this. The east coast in this The island parts of the coastal area. You get into areas. You have wild bear and you have you know. I don't know if you have really have wild wolves. But i know you will Babs where you are black bears now. The black i have black and brown bears in the northern tier. We have walls. We have in bob cats and lines. I have wild. I've wild turkeys. That's about as dangerous. Almost one the other not so long ago. You know so on the show. Joe you go out. You're looking forward to actually going out and doing stuff. So you're doing some editing then so you take video cameras audio recorders and all that stuff and then putting a show together to air. Yeah yeah we we need it. Pretty much raw footage. I just put up a little bit about the location. We make sure we've got our you know. Thank is in the credits you know. I don't add much to it. I don't edit anything out Sometimes we add the pictures in so that there at the end so you can see the private home investigation. My wife was outside and there was this old shed in the backyard. That was they never used it. They were kind of afraid to go near and it was like two quick pictures. Boom boom and one has one was like nothing. And then the other one had smoked. Looked like it had smoke coming up from the bottom of the door when we actually went into investigate that shed you could tell it. There was a fire inside there at one time that burned the wood. Wood beams chart. That's pretty cool. So with all with evidence or information that you gathering when you do these things are you You have amassing a librarian and or and keeping it organized. So if i at jokic go get the clip from this investigation. That shows this and this Would you be able to find it rather quick. Oh yeah. I know exactly where that is. I got a complete organization system for it. Yeah i did i do. But it's not on this computer. It's on a hard drive. That's external now. I'd have the hard drive on. Because i actually just did that. The other day. I put all the old stuff but anything. That's recent but that's our shows that if we don't have a whole lot of you know we do have a lot from bray road island spill a name of it. Bray road b. r. a. y. b. r. a. y. And what town is that in alcorn. Wisconsin aucoin wisconsin. I'm gonna have to look that up. Is that a fairly famous As it is yesterday's Linda godfrey she's a local author out of the alcorn area and she actually was the one that actually named it after book when yes she published a book on it very cool stuff very cool so You know have you heard about And i know. We're we're over time here but i i wanna just kinda go go with this if you don't mind hanging a couple of minutes longer Did the comedy store in los angeles familiar with the with the story of the ghost their effort of it a little bit. Yeah to comedy store on sunset boulevard in one thousand nine. Hundred s was a mob hangout. It's where the original rat pack that home forgo humphrey bogart put together hung out. But it was a mob Place at called sierras and A legend has it that there were quite a few murders there anyway in the basement. There's been said to be a ghost that many people of of Witnessed it seen it talk to it. There's an investigation going on now. A friend of mine who's a comedian and has worked there for since the seventies really He believes he has actually had contact with the ghost. And there's a video on youtube. But i wanna do a real investigation on that. I actually contacted chris sumner and if she would get involved in something like that you definitely was interested in it but it seemed like I wanna do something deep there because it's a a famous place. I think it's got a lot of Cachet as far as a public interest but it also is a belief story because if you follow youtube stuff now. Here's the thing in the youtube video. He's talking to the ghost. And i don't because Partially because i have severe tinnitus in my ears. Don't work so well after years and years. Play racquetball and i don't. I'm not hearing the ghost talkback. So that's the ten people in the room. He's asking questions and they're all going and they have the captions on about what the goals to supposed to same. But i'm not hearing it for myself which to me. We've me a little frustrated. Like i wanna hear it for myself but Eleven or twelve people in a room claim to have had that experience in. Nobody saying they use something called the spirit box. You familiar with that I'm not kidding. i'm not. I'm not don't have one right. Why would you guys be interested in being part of that investigation in any way to the comedy still goes to investigation. Like for me for me just knowing that mob history now see. That's just something that right there. That right there got me. Because i'm always interested in anything to do with the mob and the mafia. Yes so i've done a lot of research on them. I unfortunately so why was it wasn't intentional. It wasn't intentional. Well i i think you guys got you know. I have to say there. Are you know this is a pretty crowded field right now especially in the in the podcasting hundreds and hundreds of podcast that are geared towards paranormal stuff. So are you considering niching down and being specific or far too much fun. A lot of fun and we liked liked our the seal cover the whole spectrum. So yeah it's a hobby for us so it's gonna stay that way for as long as possible. I have to say. I'm surprised you haven't really kind of Looked into the player. Only not because. I'm not surprised you might not be interested in it but i know they're very after i get four or five emails a day from different flat earth. People who knows what's going to happen Coming out what is it march. Twenty twenty. We're making a big move so we're going to a streaming service oh called para flex. Oh yeah so that on your website. Let's plug for a minute while y y you can yeah. They're going to be what what they're calling and what they're calling is gonna be the net flicks of the paranormal world. So you're going to have everything from local podcasters on there to some of these. They're gonna get there getting licenses some of the possible hollywood shows but it's all paranormal all paranormal. And it's a subscription service very cool and they're being launched in march of this year and we're going to be on their heads gonna be towards the end of march. I believe it was okay so yeah a month month and a half away you know about. We're not gonna. we're not gonna leave facebook or youtube and so i had the website going across the bottom. It's utterly insane for and they can get to everything from there the video. Oh yeah yeah. And and and our podcast is actually called insane asylum. Insane asylum utterly insane. Podcasts okay Thanks for correcting me on that insane. Same productions because we had a we. We decided to do it as a production company case. We decided to do other things as well. Gotcha and now how. How often are you doing the podcast twice a week. I'm still twice a week. It is state twice a week because we got to leave that time. Open and one is wednesdays and fridays. Your friday six. Pm central time. I've on facebook and youtube. Pm central is Seven pm eastern and four pm pacific okay and and they can get to have right from from utterly insane opt dot com links in some samples of while sample some of our. What was it top. Five of last year scouts. How many episodes have you done well. We're close as as far as the paranormal and the talk show goes. Were closing in on the hundredth episode. Congratulations it'll be. What was it march. Thirteen while march thirteenth saturday at asked. That's gonna be our hundredth episode. We're going to have some pretty much fun night though. We're going to have some pass guests on there with us. Do a lot of a band planning or is it basically you just kinda pick the subject guest and then kind of just like this kind of just winging it well we basically wing it with the questions like you do We find it easier that way but we do do a little research on our guests So we know what the paranormal field of course if they cover like we were really i was really interesting. Say you know you mentioned chris. Sumner the ma barker house right and her involvement in that. I mean that was the reason. That kinda. But i go out by looking in a ask people and i've had a pretty positive result and the more we've had guests and the more easier it's been the defined guests and we've had a few actually come to us. Oh yeah i i have a i have a list i could send the people who because i'm you know i am. I started doing paranormal stuff thirty one years ago. But i my focus right now is to kind of Put that stuff on the backbone. I'm more for Celebrities celebrities and up being points us go figure any celebrities comedians musicians and that of actually the porn star was. The by accident wasn't a fluke. Wasn't it so. Here's here's a question so people are gonna revert back to the when you do that. Show with the porn. Stars are gonna be nudity. What had to do it. Howard stern style. Yeah i you know what i'm i'm. I'm a chameleon with guessing. People say this all the time so i adapted to the guests so i've had like a really prudish child Author on who was who heard one of my shows and said man. I heard somebody shows and you were dropping f bombs and and talking about shaving. The bush and all. I don't think i'm right for your audience. And then i told her. I don not always like that and i had her on. I was perfectly Well behaved and and so so. I talked to people from all but i can guarantee you I will probably be a little more risque with the point. That i would with a lady like but i what i said to harris. I'm not really the point. Start thing is the least interesting thing about you but in some ways make everything else a little more interesting if that makes any sense because like you don't expect a point start at least i don't have other things going on in their lives. Be married and have kids and being do a cooking show and have political opinions and how and and hosts a podcast with political gets on. It just doesn't seem to fit with the points though lifestyle or what i would imagine. I got that They kind of picture blown a long time ago. A i used to manage video rental stores. And i worked at one. That actually carried those movies and they get a few of the porn stars in the sign autographs of the newest movies. Oh yeah so you got to know some of them personally. And so the real people and they are right. I've met a few. They were actually really amazing people and and it was it was yeah i j- really totally changed. My mind made it awfully hard to watch porn after. Yeah yeah well. I can imagine i think in one of her previous interview. She said people think points dies people. She says in the insult entertainment industry. I which is remember to say not point says adult entertainment. They said that back then too. Yeah but she said people have disbelief that they don't deserve level they're not worthy of love and i thought well that's a sad. That's a sad outlook on. Because i never really thought of that. And that way. I always think like if i thought anything about appoint saw judgmental wise i would say i could never be with one because there's no way i could ever keep a woman satisfied after she'd been with twelve or entire football team. You know what. What am i gonna bring to the table. So it's an interesting story so But then you can't be sure she's faking that either. You know so. I don't know if the paranormal Angola in the point. Start stuff though. I don't know if there is what i it could defend. Our the set is the set filming on is have the history right could be an angle and i'm gonna leave it up to you guys to investigate this. I'm trying to get more into like slow celebrities and stuff of of More mainstream interest than rather 'cause it got apt to do it for a while it got to the point where you know. I had a guy on who was sick claim to be from another planet planet. Ooh and he. It didn't have a name. It had a frequency and he made a sound than the planet who was from. So you know when you have day after day week after week people like that on your show at some point you start to get burnt out on it and say you know what kind of crazy freaks do we have. This week I you know. I i wanna get away from it as much as i can. Now i still dog an occasional show on it which i was happy to have you guys on it because i want to push people who really have that interest to your show. Go watch that. Show listen to the show. I'll have something for you. I'm really looking to laugh more. Sh good medicine. Yeah i know. And and so i. I'm lead a life. This is just me. But i'm a i'm a musician my whole life but who was if i had my choice. I would've rather have been a standup comic. And so i'm really in in awe and envy of people who live the life of stand up comics so i want to have a lot of them on a paddle out of them on but i really enjoy Getting to learn there and how they develop their their comedic persona and all that stuff in the character. That stuff is really interesting to me. At this point in my life though that that's what i'm investigating now and i leave and while the most of the paranormal stuff to you and i'll be happy to share any Context i haven't i have a lot of what about acute people before i let you go. Have you had any of the few people on no. I'm not sure i could. I am not sure. I could withstand Having those type of people on you know happened to me by accident it was a musician. A guy who was a musician is and i should have known. His album was called the awakening. Which is a big thing that they talk about. And i was watching one of his videos. And i noticed the drummer and you know have usually have the band name on bass drum drummer had a big cue on and i was like wow. I wonder if that can't be queuing on it. So i did the interview with the guy and he was talking about angels and demons in. Ufo's and all these kinds of things in Paranormal stuff and we got through the interview and then off the air. He started going q. On me and started telling me how Trump had a time machine plan all out he. Trump's uncle work with tesla on the time machine and he he planned all out and jfk. Junior is still alive and you stand behind rudy at the press conference and but they are heavily into paranormal stuff. Though i was just thought you might wanna talk to us now. No i ll just get us into trouble. I don't know if i'd be able to control myself i. I had a hard time convincing them. Because we kinda y'all rieti guests that I don't wanna say who were when we had a guest that I kind of looked at the profile a bit closer. You know the guy's personal profile. And i told him what. The guy was. One of these diehard trump supporters of this. I'm not coming to the show that day and it's like Mark about we gotta do this. We just signed up for flights. I'm sure this guy will keep her professionally at all but you know but all went well so you know that was before you did the paranormal stuff though. No no no. I warned him. And it's like you gotta be careful about the slip about anything vertical. We don't want to get this guy. Started either yeah. I well i get a lot of hate mail over my positions on trump as well. I mean I don't even wanna get started there but And the q stuff definitely not stuff. That i'm happy with at all But you know. I so i when you take you a pissy beloved. I think that's a good thing that grow your audience. If you just saw people like two people get pissed off. Sometimes they wanna come to address. You would have been nice if what a groom is using. I honestly don't think he gave it enough time my my experience in this. It's a long haul too long game so even though you might lose struggle at the beginning and lose people at the beginning i think if you keep it up and you delivering something consistent and obviously you're onto something that you happy with now inconsistence. Oh god bless you. But i think if you would have stuck with that long enough eventually you would have seen a following a such to develop a and people who Would tune into you. You know it takes time. Yeah i think. That's time. But i was a little worried about getting a lot of hate mail and yeah it's also because of the way things were going. I knew what was coming next. I've been mark. And i are pretty computer savvy and and pretty smart when it comes to computers and the internet. I knew what would happen next. I knew facebook would be cracking down on people that would have certain points of view you or whatever or you know it would just give somebody to and then you gotta make a new facebook page like. I don't think so doing it this way. We're not to anybody off throw and we're growing use following and demand in black. I i understand the men in black. And i understand the They know where you live. And they'll be coming to see you tomorrow. I spoke dooby with them when they get here. I like you attitude. We'll sit down. I'll sit down my voice recorder if we get a nice ago. Speaking smoking. Marijuana legal in wisconsin. Did i though. It's not not yet. You guys the classify it in my book. You know oh it is for medicinal okay. They got it for medicinal purposes. And actually you could go now. Not in wisconsin in the city of madison. It is literally smoking in the city. Madison ask why. I i can do it anywhere I think my my medical marijuana card get out to jail. No although it's not federally. I just got my car. I got a card got a month ago and it was like it was a major medical marijuana card. It was like i'm an amazing moment for me. 'cause like it was something i dreamed of from child. I want one way sign up and they're actually talking. I need one licensed nationwide. But you know what i don't know i'll tell you what off the scheduled. I'll tell you interested. Quick story here. sorry I used to live in madison up until about five years ago and it wasn't legal there ahead but because what i did as a security officer private investigator i knew a lot of city of madison police officers and i also went to school with them at msnbc. When i took police science there. Okay i got a neighbor. That was really bad. Ever stereo up so loud. That things were falling off my wall. So i called the cops. He gets her to shut her music down. He comes back over next on my door and he comes in he sits down. I had pipe sitting there little baggie sitting there and you could smell it. Because i just took a hit. They didn't say nothing. Suspect is at playstation. You're playing over there now or game is at. It's like oh yeah mine. If i commend for a little bit sat there for about ten fifteen minutes. We're talking having a hell of a time. So she turned up her stereo again. She thought he was gone. And i hope. I hope you get at least some medical legalization as soon It wasn't here for a long time. We could you could get like edible stuff but you can get smokable here until six months ago and so yeah so far. It's everywhere around us accelerate here but maybe iverson get it done. You know i got. I got my first to order delivered to my house which is as they doubt. I like the fifteen year old. Me would be having a wet dream if he knew this sitting home. Waiting for my Best marijuana money can delivery a well. It's been a pleasure to get to know you guys. A lot of success with the podcast. 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483  Starhunter Redux  Family Values

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483 Starhunter Redux Family Values

"Fusion patrol is a listener supported podcast find out how you can help support us at Patriotair dot com slash fusion patrol. This is the fusion patrol gassed each week we look at a different science fiction TV episode or movie, and over analyze it to within an inch of its life. To the discussion. Hello and welcome to another episode of Fusion Patrol I'm Jean and I'm Kenneth. And tonight, we're looking at the star Hunter Redux Episode Family Values Episode Synopsis Rodolfo Monologues at the captive audience on the Trans Utopian. It is unclear if they are hearing a word, he saying time seems to weigh heavily upon them. Dante shuts himself in his room and engages maximum privacy protocol there he hooks up to a neural device and enters a virtual world where his wife Penny awaits penny it would seem is it incomplete data simulation of Dante's wife this is breaking down and will cease to function but for now it is their anniversary and is feeling the loss. Penny thinks she can fuel their son Travis nearby please find him Dante. So I can see him one last time before I die again meanwhile Percy. Ignoring maximum privacy mode enters Dante's room and sees him seemingly unconscious hooked up to the machine Chili's without alerting Dante to her presence. They arrive at Mars and Rodolfo gives them something more useful than a monologue. He gives him an assignment apprehend Etienne a small time crook et he and his accomplice Lover Brad Are Running a computerized shell game cheating, of course, rumbled just as Dante and Lucretia arrive they flee for their lives out onto the tariff form desert of Mars but to no avail Dante Lucretia catch them at the same time. A Raider ship arrives attacks and kills Brad unable to communicate with the ship. Because of Mars is turbulent tariff formed atmosphere they must flee that is until Percy uses their bird's-eye drones specially modified with explosives to destroy the Raider ship in the Wreckage Dante finds a wounded raider and his captive son raiders are former black galaxy marines that were used for secret biological testing. Those that didn't die become sterile apparently due to frustration daddy issues. They've decided to become a force of privateers, steal children to raise them as their own don t immediately recognizes the ten ish year old child to be his son Travis who lost ten years ago when he was a baby never mind that it doesn't make sense Dan's. Just have a natural instinct about these things they take them all captive continue to return to the city, their shuttle. Unfortunately, more raiders are on their trail back on the Trans Utopian having destroyed the bird's-eye. Percy has nothing better to do than use this opportunity to break into Dante's room and Hook yourself up to the penny arcade. She comes face to face with her late aunt who compliments her tells her she shouldn't have come and makes her forget everything she saw. God you aware of what has happened uses fruit ripening gases to awaken Percy back on Mars, they've got a problem the raiders are coming. They don't have weapons to fight them off, and if they managed to get back to their six seater shuttle, which easily flew four people in the last week's episode, they don't have room to carry five people. It is at this moment that Dante remembers he has a portable DNA. Paternity Tester which takes only seconds to administer tests the boy but the device is broken or is it he'll definitely have to take the boy back to the ship, but they'll never make it with the raiders tracking them. It's the end disconsolate over the death of Brad volunteers to stay behind with the injured raider waiting for the others to arrive giving Dante Lucretia and the boy chance to get back to the shuttle. When the raiders arrived for them. Actually has a weapon on him that both ruins the reception of my television and also incapacitates possibly kills all the raiders allowing him to escape finally back at the Trans. Utopian. DNA, tests confirm what everybody except Dante already knew the boy isn't his they head out to return him to his real family but before they get their Dante in the boys share a bit of surrogate father son time that Dante so desperately craves the end. I will say that it would be hard for it to be worse from last week. So it is definitely a better episode than the previous one and it definitely was more useful in context of what I assume is to becoming or what I, what I need to kind of get a grip on what the heck is going on here and I and I'll continue to maintain that last week's episode should never have been shown when they showed it. But I, agree. I still did get about. Three quarters of the way into this episode and I kinda thought. So when Wins Whatever's going to happen this episode. GonNa, happen it's all been preliminaries up to this point. And and then I realized wait it's actually almost I'm only ten minutes from over here I'm. It has happened. Okay. Got It. So it wasn't a huge fan of it, but it was definitely better than the last one but did raise lots of questions. There were lots of lots of points in it go ahead. Well. Let's see one thing I will say I happened to be watching this with subtitles on just I. Think I was watching something previously that was British and I sometimes slip the subtitles on to catch some of the odd slang and. The opening credits roll and they're through the silent shots of the Trans Utopian Dante and all that stuff. The following words appeared in the subtitles when no one was speaking, they said I'm a bounty hunter. It's just something I do I'm really looking for something that was stolen from me ten years ago they took my son. As I search. There are signs that something is happening that humanity's about change, but I won't be distracted. How do I find one small boy in a lawless universe? I'm not sure but I have to keep trying which I'm GonNa Guess. Was the original narration that ran over the credits yes, it was. Weird that they forgot to take that out of the some title. I wish they had left that in. So we've. Been Very I mean for the previous two episodes. Even I. Wish they had left that in because you know have just been thrown deep end and yeah I can pick it up the Dante's bounty hunter and whatnot but. This you definitely get, he's not really a bounty hunter I. Mean He may have been about one hundred for ten years and he may be good at it, but he's just he's just using this as an excuse. Or a me a method to an end and it it kind of raises a few questions about what the heck he was as do other things in this episode before as far as what he was, I can tell you wait until episode seven and you'll find out part of what else skip around since we're talking about that pace because like I say this felt. Like a whole, you mentioned it before and maybe that's tainting money vision of it. So take that with a grain of salt but a lot of the things that happened in this episode didn't really go anywhere but at the same time, I felt like they were trying to set stuff up to admit a little middle ham fisted or but let's talk about Dante's dead wife. Horrible person she is if that is an accurate representation of her, she is causing all his problems I can see this now looking at that scene it's like, Oh, no wonder this man's emotionally screwed up. He's going in and yacking with his dead wife and she's egging him on. Oh, I've got to see my baby one more time. No, you're dead. All you're doing preserving the pain of that man you are. Extending an agonizing it that's assuming that she's really a sentient. Thing as opposed to a representation of what he wants her to be and it. Really Wow. Okay. I get why he's messed up. She should just let it go. I'm dead. She knows she's dead. It's like something turned me off Spanish it up, get on with your life goes and again I'm just GONNA say. Episode seven we'll explain that. And this is where I'm getting at You know we got a little bit of the. We got a little bit of the background there that she is obviously I'll use obviously, but it was obvious to me whether or not really is true. She was the inventor of this technology she was a developer of this technology. The things she was working on and Dante. As far as I can tell was just the guy who raises the kids and cooks the food I don't know because it didn't sound like he was really knew what he was doing. She said I did everything you told me to do as if it was not something he knew what to do with something that he was. Following her instructions to try to save her brain whatever the project they were working on. You are correct. Okay so and he doesn't seem smart enough to be a scientist based on everything we've seen. So I'm guessing he's just thousand or whatever. But maybe he had a job maybe he did some things a cop or who knows what, but it was not. He was not part of the team that created this or. Not. Part of the brain trust that created this technology. Any does seem like an addiction. Yes, it is and I'll tell you only as much as you want to know because. Spoilers but episode seven. Otherwise coming up, we'll. We'll. We'll learn some more about this this piece and that's probably good enough to now. I I think it's. It's an interesting concept and Gosh I. I literally last week. was recording a one of these on an episode of Doom Watch in which it had to do with preserving preserving life beyond death and it wasn't exactly recording. The mind is digital imprint, but you know many of the same issues raised as to whether or not this is. What is the value to this? Versus, what is the harm? Because you can see the harm? It's doing the Dante he he's obviously sees himself as faithful to his wife who doesn't exist but she asserts that she exists and she knows that she's not really. What an and maybe she doesn't realize it's been ten years and that she is doing irreparable harm to him I don't know but it. Didn't come off thinking. Any was particularly nice. Human being or a particularly empathetic human being with other people It didn't just didn't come off very well. Without revealing too much out of. Hint you will learn much more about penny as you keep watching episodes I. assume that they wouldn't have hired an actress if they work in anything that gives them more. Similar to her part in this particular case, the other thing that it kind of reminded me of and I know it's not the same right I. Know I know these are not the same thing. But. Once again, just like in the divinity cluster where we have something coming up from the human genome or an alien genome embedded in the human genome whatever you however you say. that is moving man to another level of existence. This too is exactly that sort of thing you know if you can if you can transfer a person's mind an exact copy of the person's mind. Upon their death into a computer that can accurately recreate them. Then that person quote unquote never need die. But they are not human anymore right. They don't have the same sensory input they don't have the same they will just like we all do through our lives. You Begin to change based on the input and the external forces on you. They will be completely and utterly different. They will be something different than human beings at that point and if they're computer based. Yeah. Why not fix a few things? Oh, got a little bit of a stutter. tweak no more stutter not smart as you wanted to be. You know we can probably a bit speak that up a little bit really wanted dry wit. I can handle dry wit you know so. It it raises raises lots of questions and and are they people do they have rights? Yeah it's it's always been a fascinating area. I hope they go somewhere interesting with it oh. Yes. that's this. This comes up again and again throughout the first season. Okay. Next question and this one would not be a spoiler thing. This is a this is a pass terrific thing that brought to my mind. You have mentioned that and I have read that Rodolfo in episodes had narration and I had a different idea in my mind completely as to what that would look like. But here we have Rudolfo rambling on. Seemingly, broadcasting it everywhere in the ship I can only assume that everyone there is being forced to watch it because they are completely oblivious to it as if this was edited and afterwards yes, it was this I did notice that. For. The record in the original versions of these episodes that people filmed in two thousand. And broadcast in two, thousand and two, thousand one. The. The episode always went as follows there was the opening credit sequence with the narration. Then, there was a broadcast from. Rudolfo. And little transmitters actually transmission from from Rudolfo excuse me and then we went into over that play episode title and directed by written by and all that, and then we got into the story. Was the narration done like. Well. So in this one, we see the narration from Rodolfo and it's being superimposed on holographic display the answer on. It would just just the. Ten looking at the camera looking at the camera, he was at his base on the moon. and talking, and sometimes we had no idea to whom he was talking Sometime this rambling on about his family history or a sex life or. something or the other and and some, and I did notice that in this case that people did cut off actually rather unfortunate where putting it did. Terminate ripe before it got to his Sexual boasting But. I did play it back on desk I and a few weeks ago, and then it's a bit of a a sort of gross coughing kind of monstrosity of a human being and more so. More so in the second season. And 'cause he's in it right He's physically there in this. Yeah, this is a guy you don't want to be around so if they don't go into his sexual exploits. I'm totally cool with that. Yes. It was actually end. Sometimes in those opening transmissions we actually learned important information which is which helped to be background but outdoor, but most of those don't exist in Redux. In fact I, I've seen all of season one, of Redo of star hundred ducks and people kept to He also in this one and the reason I'm guessing that they kept it is because he's Cameron on about family and this episodes all about family. I don't know that he said anything of value about family except that the forms of families in this new world are different, which could refer to Dante and penny. Or mock mostly Dante a penny but it could also been talking I keep saying Pammy Penny and come thinking pasta hungry here and. And And Brad. Which is obviously a much more common family arrangement here in Twenty nineteen than it was in two thousand twenty when this airs than it was in two thousand one. Probably Two thousand Two thousand when they when they came up with it so you know and or the unconventional family arrangement of the raiders. Yes. Who make their own make their own families out of it? So I can I can see why they left it in because it sort of sets the theme, but I don't know that it adds anything and maybe it's just because like I said, they're just trying to let you realize that families are can be very different just it doesn't really add much. You're right. In fact there were some of the other twenty opening transmissions cut that. Added more to their episodes but. This'll be it. But for some reason, I mean I. could see how for example, if he was gambling on about how the Martian tariff forming or something that might be providing you important information. Maybe not important is the wrong word, but it would be giving you some information so that when they go to Mars. They don't have to explain as much in in episode which or another situation like we might have learned about about how prisoner transfers work or why they're doing mercury prisoner. You know all of those things I could see how it could be a useful tool. For World Building. I could also see a lot of people would hate it because a lot of people just really don't like narration. Know, I'll never be I'll never be completely against opening narration TV show because there is nothing better than space the final frontier. and. It's in every episode. So when another show does it, I, just assume they're ripping off star Trek. because. Obviously. Great Show One of my favorites. My very favorites I have the whole thing. Blurry. Oh. Yes. Indeed I, Love them with new special effects are I accept I accept that rebuild wholeheartedly and graciously that that was a loving and beautiful thing done to them in this it was. Speaking of families. Let's take a look at and my stuff's in no particular logical order. So. Brad. Oh. Yes. So when they started out before we knew that they were a couple as opposed to a Abbott and Costello Conman team. And they're running along and they're yam ring about their their we should've gone here. We did that you promised me the other stuff and admit I was looking at that and going you know these are two conmen. There's the slick con man, and then there's kind of the gullible one that's that he's got to go along with him. Getting kind of a Bud Abbott, Lew Costello, kind of arrangement except that they're bickering all I could think of was. There is there is the bickering of one seriously stereotyped nineteen sixties US husband and wife Sitcom bickering they were just that just had that they had that patterning not quite Ralph Kramden and Alice because for stuff. That's not sixties second off. That was brilliantly done. But it had that sort of same dynamic going on and it wasn't until. It wasn't until they were playing footsie, you're not quite footsie but. Dante. Condom that is like Oh this. Is meant to be a bickering husband and wife team Oh didn't get that And then the I thought my mind was now is that because they were trying to replicate that intentionally for for effect or is that because that was the only way they could envision homosexual couple being I. Don't know I. Took it. I took Brad in particular as being. Stereotypical. It was not a subtle I mean. Like I said they were they were doing the standard Mr Humphries from are you being served? So it didn't they weren't telegraphing at like they would have done a long time ago until they hit the point but they were not well drawn. Specially, bred since killed him offering quickly, they didn't need to. A little bit different. But Yea, I just. I haven't got the measure of these guys to know other not. They just cannot right couples or whether they cannot write gay couples in in that. And it was shorthand, right? Mean you throw in the bickering Sitcom couple and you immediately know as I did when I heard them bickering I'm like Oh, immediately Sitcom Mary and and. So that was that was part of the thought and I, wonder if you know they were intentionally the writers as part of this family thing you know they did this intentionally to make part of that point about the future of humanity with which case more power to them yeah. For for being trying to be. Progressively. They didn't portray them negatively except for the fact that they were a sitcom couple which you know in the end, we all know that Ralph Analysis Love, each other and. It will all be good in the end. It's just that they've known each other and everything down to the point where they just. Picking each other all the time for because that's their their modus operandi. Yes. I also noticed that this that some of those scenes combined with the soundtrack over those scenes. Did provide some comic relief. Oh. Yeah. I have a note on the soundtrack. So I had the subtitles on remember. Yes. So it pops up and it actually says things like ominous music play. Eerie music playing when those two escaped and they were running along the desert and they were bickering and it was playing that you know y y or whatever the to you know the comedy. Music did they were playing to go along with them? The subtitles read dramatic. Play dramatic I'm like war is this another? Did they change the music for star Hunter Redux? Interesting. More so more. So in the second season than in the first season, but in this case, I did notice the change in the music because as I said, I have the I have all of these original episodes on DVD and so. I did notice when my my watch again that. I watched it I on disk then on when. I went to Amazon prime and I watched the redux version. I thought that music is different. And it it. It does set the tone I mean it it added to that whole comic bickering thing. It made these people instantly made these two criminals seem harmless instantly compared to the raiders they are well yeah. But we don't know that we don't know that when they're doing their shell game and they're they're escaping sure they're they're conmen in common usually aren't violent murderers of that sort but. Says get on the desert, their bickering and you hear. Upper. Funny. Music you go. Okay. These guys are not to be taken seriously as criminals there. Are. Criminals. I'm not saying they aren't, but they're not. This is not going to be a tense chase with Dante after them and and you know firefights and. Stuff like that. You just you just instantly know that it's really perfunctory. Let's see what else have I. Brad. GETS KILLED AND EH Tan I goes through some pantomime. Grief. And I really believe that he's supposed to feel this grief I don't think he's faking it or maybe I'm. Maybe. I'm misreading this situation he he's in the whole Oh kill me shoot me now I have nothing to live for. got the feeling that the lines were meant to be serious, but it just kind of comes off as. Not. Over the top. Way Too melodramatic flamboyant. Atn Islam buoyant? Yeah. So Towards the end he stays behind to because of the macguffin that somehow the six seater shuttle can't handle five people I counted the seats. I thought about that too is to four people seats behind the two pilots chairs and it's like really belly. You can't take all five. Oh. Yeah and one of them's a little boy. On. All right. But he's behind it is a plot hole. He says he's not going to kill them. Although it's kind of unclear to me whether or not he did or not because I don't know what that gas did to them. Certainly some of them shot each other when they were passing. Under the influence of drugs. So some of them definitely died. And when we last see him, he looks at the child and he says something to the effect of does the butterfly remember when it was a Caterpillar wrote that down and? I I looked I. thought about that one. It was such an odd line for somebody to have looked at a child and asked that question. It was such an online that I felt for sure this has to be a setup for something future and so asked myself now, what could it be and a few candidates came to mind? He could be referencing the boy which he does not officially. No is not travis and the boy has been transformed beyond any recognizable thing for Dante. Let's face it babies ten year olds. Babies have nothing in common or just one correction about the age according to all internal. On the first season. At this point Travis is fourteen. Three, ain't no baby. Reno Baby I'm but I noticed the dialogue put. That's just taken as a as a as a preponderance of the evidence in the first season the abduction was age three. and and. We're about eleven years out and the actor change things. Yes and denise the`Real was the actor who played Jeb Slash Vincent Taylor and I looked him up on IMDB at the time of filming of the episode he was. Fourteen. Well, and you know that's they hire old actors who look young intentionally and television all the time. Her kids but. Yeah it's just. But it and even reference it in this episode and where Penny says, you know which is worse than realized that he would not recognize this. Of course, he wouldn't a three year old might art tell a lie my mother died when I was three I have absolutely zero recollection of her existence nothing there it's completely and utterly a blank for my whole life. So you know even if this kid's three I don't think he is going to have any recollection of anything but being raised by the raiders. And that would be true with JEB, and it would be true of Travis. And that raises that raises some issues but hold on before I. Get back to that the like I say, a question about the the Caterpillar and the boy so is is Jeb the butterfly who cannot remember being the Caterpillar when he was in the cocoon of Dante and his parents or is To himself who has transformed as part of this experience with Brad's death and with whatever he did to the raiders and escaping is he a new man and he felt? Very. Much like we will see him again because obviously he's seen Dante many times before. And they gave him enough force analogy in separate at least or or eight depending. On whose whose account and You know they invested an awful lot in the character who was a criminal to let him go for him not to show up again. So but I don't know if that's who he was referring to. I think it to be a reference to the boy. In this case in we stay within the episode we have support for that because at the end Vincent as he begins to call himself has been is about fourteen years old. And he's been with the raiders. Nine, nine years. He doesn't remember his family. I. Feel well, of course, travis is a at the end does not it might be travis which slightly different but the exact same principle, right? I felt that you know when when Dante tried to take the boy away from Lexus. Named, the name is derived his. Tell US T. E. L. U. S. tell us. The boy reacted like a child would react being taken from his father. Well, he reacts like a boy from a violent culture. That's trying to be taken from his father. It's the only father he's ever really known. I'm not convinced that by the end of this episode, he will have forgiven Dante or tolerate him or even acknowledged the truth of the matter that you know that wasn't his family and then he's been kidnapped and I'm not entirely sure he's wrong I mean I know you don't. You don't allow people to kidnap children and then raise them as your own legally ethically morally. You can't I. Don't condone that and I don't mean it that way but. Only, this kid's this kid is a member of that family. He needs therapy he needs he needs help and it's going to take a long time if ever for him to accept his new reality. because. It's you know it's all he's ever known. and. It does. I don't WanNa say that Dante should give up for that reason but kind of Dante should give up for that reason too. He's not going to get his son back. It can't. I mean if it does if he gets his son back and his sons like dad good to see her or even within you know. Twenty Years Then, you're best Dante could be his step-dad or. You know he's never going to have that father son relationship he he might be able to develop a good relationship with him but. I. Don't know enough about the raiders do know they got lots of money. Because he got a whole fleet identical ships and a and a star Baser rosia mothership or something the raiders have connections. Yes that's my suspicion to my guess is that they're they're orchard, but. Your they were one or the other either they were infected by orchard or they became don't don't tell me but I yeah, you are getting. It had it has to be orchard has to do more than just be worried about the divinity cluster and. Anyway so That was the boy I just I just covered the boy, my concerns about the boy if they ever find the boy or this boy, it's GonNa it's a cruel thing to do to them. I I don't know how bad life is with the raiders. I also don't understand whether raiders only abduct boy children they don't. Well, they did specifically say that I noticed said it I noticed that but it doesn't make sense to their stated goal, which is to have families is actually the There are female raiders. Then we go and there should have been female raiders in the Black Galaxy Marines to in the future. I've had a we will learn more about the raiders as we go on they end, there will be. Some questions in I'll be bringing along the way for example. Certainly The children they abduct are not sterile. Right that's just this is just a temporary setback they're trying to build a new culture. Society would be the logical conclusion of that. Or they could they could literally adopt children normally. The. The whole idea that? Might as well. Do the do the raiders now? So we have a little bit of an expository dump between Dante and. Lexus and he tell us tell us. Cook I'M GONNA call him Lexus every time so if I call him, Lex, is tell us if I say tell us well, I meant it probably meant Lexus but anyway. Where you know a tell us tells us. Yes. Yes. Hadn't thought about that. This writer was brought in for exposition to tell US stuff. Oh dear. Oh, I hope I hope that that writer got an extra five dollars for that. For that subtle play. He. You know I'm so proud of myself spotting. True real or not. New Clever he tells us that they were infected with the Magellan flu virus they were experimented on. They don't say by whom I say Orchard they were or they were orchards, troops or orchards troops, and they were experimented on by orchard because that seems like the kind of thing and evil organization do and all those guys at the first episode were wearing black on their combat troops. So lack galaxy marines could easily be. And some of them drowned in their own Flam, which sounds awful and the rest of became sterile and apparently, and mass as a group, they decided to become a band of privateers. deflates they yeah. They seemed a little seemed a little destructive. So for example, why did they bother to attack Dante and the Krisha on the ground? Then they're not that wasn't that wasn't worth an attack for for privates right? You would. You'd go after ships you'd go after things with with bounty. As it were but it does hearken back and I realized that this is prior to, but it hearkens back to the rivers in the. Firefly in that, they seem to be their actions seem to be more destructive than anything else yes. With the rivers were also under their gorge, right they out of their Gorz these guys we didn't know until now are gripped with I wanna be a daddy issues and it just. Doesn't seem sufficient. Cause doesn't seem sufficient cause to go do what they've done unless they've got a specific agenda like getting back specifically at the people who did this to them. But it it's not like they're doing that I mean they've captured Dante son and as far as I can tell he's not associated with orchard or whoever it was. The did whatever it was. Maybe he is. I don't know but. It just seems kind of like alright. Well, that explains why they go after the kids sort of, but there's probably plenty of kids they could adopt really this seems like a universe with tons of kids that probably don't have parents that they. WanNa be Raider. Yeah. The raiders just. seem to be angry authority. and. And I guess who isn't in these days? used. Times. A Go ahead I did notice something I don't know if you noticed this but early In the episode, Did you get a close up on one the on one of the stained glass windows on the bridge something? With Tulip something Zhang ship. That's the design of the tulips before people remastered it. Okay I saw the ship and I you know it stained glass. So I like well okay. Close enough. It's very that makes use the original it's the pre master. Okay okay. This is the only use of the bird's-eye. Whenever see well, blown up. Yeah. It's not medical. People never got another one. Okay. Or vegetables it seems like, yes. Percy says she's never been to Earth. which she was two episodes ago but she wasn't on Earth yes. But and also she said, it makes you lose type out. Mars said, it makes you wonder what earth is like yeah, and that she should have at least. Yes. had a feel for I. Did noticed that felt again sort of out of place compared to. Things we've seen in the episode. Percy we might get on with Percy see breaks into Dante's I say breaks in but. Walks into Dante's room while he's in maximum privacy mode, which I think would lock the door. at the very least but apparently not. Well there's two things it's different from walking in on somebody who has a do not disturb sign on their door and somebody who has a do not disturb sign on their door and it's locked right. One is, when is an active disregarding that persons wishes, and the other is an active breaking and entering. and. To different degrees I couldn't tell I mean she just walked in as if it was casual Friday so I'm thinking Dante, forgot to lock the door but it sounds right. While he's on his little when he's on his little trip and. She breaks in to try it herself, I, I getting her I'm not making any sense out of her. Do that she doesn't pick up on. Social Cues. It's it's not even social cue. She didn't even bother to ask him what it was. Right. At the very least you could go, Hey, what was it a new video game or something, but instead she breaks in and and and transit and one that informs us about Percy's personality. Mice plan words. Thank you. I'm on form tonight. Sure. and. And then she forgets it. So. For. Not she said. Him She said, she forgot it when I've learned some of these characters do not only do not always speak honestly also I pair something up on because watch this and the original version and as and the redux version Percy says, she remembered Whiteness it was not white. It was what in the original it was widely urge up one of the occasional hiccups was star Hunter Redux is that dialogue? Indicates one thing. In. Our remastered version indicates something else something else okay and Whiteness would have been much better I think I. I would go with Whiteness. I think you know for example, the opening scene where she is cradling pennies cradling the baby. Yes the imaging would have been much better if they had been the classic white of death memory kind of. View of things but because it had a little binary digitally stuff floating around in the back what the heck is that a is that a really stupid photograph did he's looking at twenty whatever century photograph it is Twenty Four Twenty Third Century Photo Chris we haven't. Later we see photos actually looked just like photos do in one, thousand, nine, hundred seventy, and then later when he's in the the the virtual world and it's all swirling around I'm kind of thinking to myself who would do that what kind of? Our would do that. Who'd waste all the waste all the the processing power in the time to run up little binary. Backgrounds going on if if you're going to do that at least, let them pick a background they like sunny meadow or or you know wrecked bars or whatever. It is instead of this sort of nine hundred, eighty s Japanese superhero kind of depiction of. Cyberspace. So I think I think whiteness is better because that indicate she did actually remember something whereas there was no whiteness as you say. When she said that I I took it to mean she remembered what penny wanted her to remember, which was just blank. So. Interesting to see and. Yet have to ask why Penny says it was it's dangerous for Percy to come here it's dangerous to Percy to come here. Is it dangerous for Dante to come here and I mean apart from the addiction aspect of it all of that was kind of like felt like they were laying up for for more on that that whole issue. The Virtual Reality Penny subplot that keeps on popping up throughout season one is one that I. I've never quite grasped forty and I know from seeing all episodes where that popped that is an an element what is going on in universe so I do know the official reason but knowing the reason an understanding it and writing sing right you know it it seemed to me in this episode that the purpose of this is to not let Dante move on it's to explain why he's so stupid about these things I mean he was downright he was holding the idiot ball today when he sees the kid and he goes, it's Dravis like really. Really kid you haven't seen since according to you, he was a baby in this episode anyway and. A hillock kid looks a bit like my kid when he was that age, you know he looks he looks more like me when I was that age. Just. Play. Yeah and I'm a father and I admit that there are a lot of kids that look a lot like about that age. They're going through that transformative where adult features haven't shown up yet. So they've still got a puppy features and like no, you're just doing that because penny told you you could send him she could sense of nearby and. She is causing this harm to him unwittingly I assume but. She is keeping him from going through the process of grieving and letting go and moving on and. which is good story wise because otherwise Dante is not as credible as he could be sent. Make Sense. Right. If this had happened a week ago then then I could understand why his his whole is kind of keyed into this. Ten years ago I don't know. Not the part where he's taken by the idea that it's his son but the fact that he is still just driving forward for I mean what point does he give up fifty years from now when the kids forty you know and he's eighty at some point you have to go yeah, we're done here pennies back there. In her little virtual worlds please finding for me. Please to see him one more time like great. All right. I'll go out and try it again. Or. More, likely. Be It'd be hidden out again. So. Okay. So we were Tom. Percy. Once again, she says she's a terrible person. I don't and I'm getting a serious amount of lack of self value. Their self esteem is not high on Percy. I see that Get the the whole bit with the the drone that she packed the drone with explosives I'm going to call it the drone because I think obviously, it's a drone as we know them to be. Now in that year, they were not but the birds. Hi. It's It came in really handy in this episode. So I can't say it wasn't a good idea on her part. But. It felt an awful lot like there wasn't a good motivation for it. It was just a plot contrivance that they used to bring the raider down and then strand them without is same time. Unless. We haven't seen Percy as pyromaniac yet. Packing explosives and things so. Percy does hold a gun sometimes, she can handle herself. Would imagine she'd have to. I mean she was doing the battling the hand hand combat and. Assume she was good enough to think she could be in competition so she can't be completely untrained in this way of life. We have not talked about leukemia. Okay. Again. My favorite person on board the ship. We had yet another incredibly boring conversation with her dad I'll start there at the end. You didn't report in I'm sorry I didn't have anything to report well, Report Okay Bye Dad. Thanks. Okay. Quick conversation just kind of shot out. We don't know what she was supposed to be reporting. It's interesting. That she has a schedule of reporting things. I took that to mean like you're supposed to report in every week on Friday or something of that nature and I could be wrong. It's Euler schedule Yes. So, nothing happened and you can imagine there's an awful lot of time on a ship like that were nothing happens right I mean if it takes six weeks to transit and you have to report every week. And you don't count or anything except the people in the ship. Would there be anything to report. So you know clearly she's doing something clearly she's supposed to be reporting something back to her dad. Obviously, we've already seen that she's got issues with her dad and other of this family values theme. Coming back in the story desperate, she clearly desperately needs that connection with Dad and dad doesn't care less and. But we have no inkling of what it is. We do have the scene in the shuttle at the beginning of the episode where. Dante says so going to keep it a secret while you're doing here or something. And she says. It's nothing. Ordinary. Thank you got some secrets to right and then he changes the subject to the weather, which is telling they both have a smile about the fact that they know that they're keeping secrets and she knows he's keeping secrets in there keeping secrets. But Is there is nothing in this episode that indicates that Lucretia really did have anything weird going on on the planet I mean, we only see them chasing at CNN. We never see her you know slip away for a couple of seconds and have a quick word with some operative somewhere or or take a photograph of something or anything that you would that would go with that conversation where he's pointing out that she's got secrets and she's denying the secrets with a wink and a nod. Not In this episode, but I call your attention back just two episodes ago. The DIVINITY CLUSTER This. This is this is called back to that right. So the question is, did she have a secret agenda here on this planet was? That planet is just she carries circulate hurry she carries her a secret agenda with her. Okay. Because, that was kind of say there was there was a lot of almost foreshadowing that she was doing something sneaky here on the planet and then she never did anything sneaky on the planet. But Oh, I know what I was talking about with the birds bird's-eye. Earlier confusion. In the way, the episode is structured. They go there they seem to be picking up at. which they may or may not bring back. We'll talk about the justice system in a bit. But. They go to find an they. Launched the bird's-eye why they don't even launch it till after they found him. and. The only thing we get out of it is that Percy says something or or forgot what purser Carpaccio said something to the effect of Leroy supposed to be six other fugitives out there and we got nothing about that. And if there were six other fugitives and they had to bring them all back, how would they fit them in that shuttle? Don. Good question. I'm going to be counting seats in that shuttle every time we see it. From this point on. So, it wasn't sure you know if their assignment was to bring back if it bring back money, they didn't really give us a good feel for the operation of the way it worked got interrupted by the raiders, but it felt a little confused and obviously they didn't get any money so they can't afford any food. So they're gonNa Starve and now that they don't have a drone and there were no six other fugitives, it was obviously just those two guys, Brad John running away from a from the city which I might add the way it's edited. I would say that they are no more than three hundred yards from the town. When Percy Dante catch up with him didn't it feel like that? Yes. We're running for long and yet they couldn't get back to the city before the raiders you. There's some ruins over there and I think. You're you're right by the city I mean, those two guys carrying that table did not with you. You were in sight of them when they started running, they not get twenty miles into the Martian desert. Outside the city so that Didn't raise questions. I just assumed that was a bad mistake although I did I did think they did a pretty good job of making Canada look like Mars red filters yeah. Yep. I thought that I thought that looked pretty good and it works really well with Chretien's blue shirt actually it should have been. It's New Brunswick. Some somewhere new Jack. Yeah that's Canada's yes. Yeah. Okay. Can you. Please the snow falling was meant to be I on particles from. I think. I've watched the in credit so I know that people filmed on. An in studio in New Brunswick Yeah I did actually see the new Brunswick on the end credits I just saw that Canada Okay and. went on I couldn't tell you where in Canada, New Brunswick is sorry. Sorry. Canadian. Provinces. Okay so so more on the. Side. Closer to main. Let's see we saw the communicator. So in this one, I got a good look at the communicated with the. Silver painted Nokia phone stuck on the front of it cellphone. which you asked about last time if I was able to identify that device. I really couldn't this time. We've got a pretty good look at it like okay. Got It. This is her. This is her. Her secret spy communicator that projects an image on the wall it that's that's a remastered special effect as easily as supposed to be a screen that these she's looking at. Okay. Sometimes, we you know we were just. We're literally just talking while ago about the fact that when they remastered Star Trek I, I've been through those from one end to the other and I don't think there are some shots that they did. That were not what they should been when they made the show you know. The Star Trek was very economical with their ships in orbit change the color of the planet ships going. Ships leaving orbit shift coming into orbit ship flying through space pretty pretty standard. Even when they are in a battle scene, they would generally not show the two ships together because it's easier to show a stock footage of ship and then the new footage and what right. So when they went back and they remastered them they a beautiful job of recreating the enterprise and the other ships, and then in some some cases, they very thoughtfully altered them and I'm thinking battle sequences with the doomsday machine. Satellite deployment on operation annihilate. Yes. The Constellation in the machine Oh beautiful. And the the actual battle where you can see the ships kind of although there is a strafing run scene, which was a little star wars but. or or the edge of the galaxy in where no man has gone before. They made the planets more like what they described them. Class M planets look like Class M planets. Do. The planets atmospheres look the color of the planet, the Cyclorama when they landed the beautiful job lovingly done I wonder. Is that true with star Hunter Redux because we've already several mistakes that don't match with the dialogue with the dead stuff, you could occasionally in haven't gotten to it in this episode, but there are the free the year in the. In the divinity cluster is twenty, two, eighty, five season. Opens a twenty, five ends and twenty, two, eighty, six the. In the original version was twenty, two, seventy, five, and twenty to seventy, six, So people and ten years and and the process, and as we'll find out in some future episodes, they didn't go back and loop certain dialogue. she'd see somebody. Back in the studio going like. You know nobody's GonNa. Believe this technology will be available by twenty two, seventy five. Let's bump it forward twenty, two, eighty, five. But but there is I did find some videos on. Youtube or Vinnie. Oh, one of those videos websites whereas a little behind the scenes making of feature. For, Star Hundred Redux. And interviews with the people and they were taking great pleasure in their work. Okay. I mean they don't generally speaking they don't look bad k. the ships look good. The space shots look good You know I. I I say that they're probably not Jurassic Park budget kind of CGI but but they look fine and for the most part. I really thought the gas effect in this episode looked terrible. But for the most part and I don't know if that's because they just couldn't fix the original and they left the original effects in it looked very old and very eighties. Eighties but that was the field I got from it. But you know we've got these things work she says white and they did. They did the squirrelly digitally background things so I just. wondered. How much love and care was put into that? Aspect. Is just one detail. We do this is the episode in which we learned that Luke is a veteran of Mars. Federation. Special Forces we knew she was arranger I. Didn't know what that meant. Okay. Okay. But the we do but. She was Mars Federation. Okay I. She you know. was making some comments about her and she's I'm arranger. I didn't get that that was. I wouldn't have been able to associate that with the Martian. Federation or or anything like that but as. My mind I'm putting that together with the line of dialogue from episode. Five as well but she is ex military for sure end. Elite elite military elite military yeah. Yeah the name Ranger brings that to mind I that's a that's an elite crack military crew. Just. Like the black galaxy marine sounds like an elite military. They said the best of the best the best of the best, which is typically the Rangers you know. So obviously, the Black Marines are another organization, not the same one that she was part of. Our different federations and military forces in the in the solar system in this series did. Dante. Lie. About the DNA result when they were in the field suddenly remembers Hey I've got a DNA tester. For I. Didn't believe the result. Okay I gotTa Lie. But okay he he saw the result and he said Oh it's busted. COULD BE I guess denying it in his mind. Okay I. I took it that way but I also could have been they're trying to make a point about the crummy state of repair of all the equipment that they have. Tom Okay. or it could have been broken but it just it could fit that you just. Didn't see the result he he wanted to seek I also noticed that Caravaggio and I don't know that I've noticed this in previous episodes but two points in this episode, he called Percy Princess. And also, my lovely that just seems Kinda Weird. One point on that is coverage is somewhat sarcastic that is programming. So someone guess programmed him to be that way all those interesting he's still that way because Percy we do know. Can Reprogram him. Right. Okay last thing I have. Talked once again because we had it in the last episode and we have it here again knocking about the wheels of Justice in this universe. So in this one, they're bringing they're actually bringing in wanted criminal. Okay or they're apprehending a wanted criminal criminals in this case because they had a record on Brad as well. Talked about Mercury being strangely cost inefficient type of penal system in a in a universe, it doesn't value. In fact, a lawless universe if the subtitles of the opening credits are to be believed at. CORTEX moderation yes. You take a criminal petty criminal your modify their Cortex so that they don't have petty criminal instincts anymore, and because it's level one, you only do that for a year and then it wears off. Taking Lucretia view of this that sounds remarkably humane. But a ridiculously stupid idea because if they're a criminal and all it does is remove their criminal instincts. Why wouldn't you permanently removed their criminal instincts but let them come back in a year but is it all it does Well. Taking Likud legacy taking what Lucretia has to say and I kind of believe her I believe longer. Let's rephrase it I. believe she believes what she saying. Okay. She she is. Going to do is we're going to. Now efdn seems to think that he's going to have to wipe Brad's but because he will be literally not literally his words but I'm keeping PG thirteen Because Brad will be a drooling idiot for a year who will be incapable of functioning. Now. Ettienne is as we say a bit melodramatic. So that might be way to one end. Might be a bit on the Pollyanna side. For what is happening in this? But either way neither of those make sense. because. If if indeed, you can alter their behavior, you know what is the purpose of penal system is it is it prevention? Is it deterrence is at sequestering of dangerous criminals is it rehabilitation? It seems to me like removing the criminal instincts if it can be done safely and effectively inhumanely is rehabilitation, it may not be there may be some issues with the morality of that but but there issues with the morality of locking people up to mean that. All of these things are. Are Not, black and white issue. So here we're being presented with an alternative that could fix somebody, but it will only fix you for a year and after that, what are they gonNA. Do they're going to go right back to being a criminal again, which is an analogue for our prison system where you put prisoners in and they come out and they're still criminals criminals and they come out and there's still basically criminals because they still have to go on about their lives and whatever the whatever the motivations or the economic forces that led them to be criminals in the first place are going to be there and going to be worse when they get out of the system. So. In the case of the rehabilitation. I don't know maybe during that year, you can go off and get jobs and you can learn a trade and then when when suddenly the criminal instincts where come back, you'll be like, why would i WanNa do that I've got a job and I got a wife and kids and you know and bread on the table and On the other hand that Shell Game Sherlock like. Fund. I I don't know. But on the other hand, if you're going to take people and you either bring them in and put them in prison or you turn them into a drooling idiot that has to have full-time care by somebody else doesn't make any sense either. Punishment. Punishment that you understand because it's punishing everyone around the more than the drooling idiot I. Mean It really does it really is one of those things like I feel like somebody sat down and said, what sorts of things might we do the future? And didn't really think about the implication of course it's exactly the same as people don't think about the implications of prison or didn't think about the implications of prisons and and the current systems we have. So that's par for the course but. It. ADDS another interesting piece to the puzzle of what the heck are they doing. What is going on with this penal system and this justice system Out there, it's not a very efficient one. I do not have anything else. On this episode. Neither do I. Move To. You've covered some of my notes enough covered the rest of my notes The. Next. Episode is Siren's Song which Has It's interesting. We'll just say that I. Saw The the previews built into the episode and I felt that I was watching another preview for something to do with that line in the The narration about the there's signs that something's happening humanities event to change when something's happening, right? But we'll leave that when for the discussion. Can. 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Thou Shall Prosper with Rabbi Daniel Lapin

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Thou Shall Prosper with Rabbi Daniel Lapin

"Welcome to the money advantage. Podcasts empowering and business owners with the permission to think differently about money so that you can consciously choose to live a meaningful and fulfilled life dow. Our passion is making money. Simple fun and doable open. You feel great about your money and getting your money working for you. So you can thrive all right good morning and welcome back to the money advantage podcast. This is rachel. Marshall and bruce wayne here again with a fantastic conversation for you today and you'll see a new face with us again and this today is rabbi daniel. Good morning and welcome to the show. La- rachel and hello bruce good to be on the show with you today like rabbi thank you thank you so if you're listening you may be wondering why are we bringing a rabbi to talk about money on the money advantage podcast. Let me tell you if you in the position of wanting to make more money this year. That probably is one of your new year's resolutions. for instance. this'll be a really good conversation to lean into. And listen into. I know from reading dr rabbi leibman daniels book thou shall prosper the rio that money and making money has a lot of philosophy in wisdom that has to come before the money is made. And that's really where we're going to focus in today and so if you want to know a little bit more about who rabbi daniel is. He's an author speaker he's a tv host. He emigrated to the us from south africa after studying mathematics physics and economics in israel and the uk. He's written several books and he's a frequent speaker and i love his well. I don't know if we'll get into this today. But i love that. You're an enthusiastic boater and that you have sailed across the pacific in your own boat as well as one school. You're seven children now. That all is enough to a whole conversation on today. Let's all of that was was easy to do. Because i have an unusual wife who who went along with even some of my more flamboyant extravaganzas. I love that i love. That will thank you for attributing credit to her. While i know that she probably had a huge parts do with that. So let's jump in today. You book specifically called thou shalt prosper ten commandments for making money. And i can tell you. This is one of the deepest and most profound reads that. I have ever had in the world of dealing with money and i think a lot of times people will jump to. What's the right financial product. what is you know. How do i get a better return. How do i what. I do right now. What's the tactical strategy. That i do with my money in those things are all extremely important but before any products and before any strategy or tactics we need a strategy before strategy you need the principles and the philosophy and really today. We're kind of digging deep diving all the way down to the foundations and what that philosophical paintings of truly making wealth is so. Can you just tell us a little bit about your backstory. And how you got into the work that you do today. Well it's not that interesting backstory to tell you the truth the The book is much more interesting but the back story to the extent that exists is simply that as i was doing lectures around the country. I was speaking mostly on socio. Political topics People would come up to me and say look i. I have a question i to ask you. Please take offense. So i assure you want to. I am very unlikely to take offense. I may not like you never speak to you again. But i'm not going to get angry at your question. That's fine so they the question. I got more than any other question is how come jews also good with money And people were really uncomfortable. Asking me that question to be honest. And i sort of understand it because people have been conditioned to think that you'd better walk on eggshells when it comes to juice goes almost anything you say is going to be construed as anti-semitic and And frankly people don't care for that very much what's wrong with a little open and and that question in and of itself is Is only offensive. If you're gain to imply that the reason that jews are disproportionately good with money and is because they constantly do people. The old oxford english dictionary lists one of the definitions of jewish verve. As introduce somebody if you think jews successful because of the fact that they constantly ripple folks well. Then we'd have to have a long conversation about that because i did look into the possibility of that being true i really wanted to be honest about this. And the opening pages of my book thou shall prosper. You'll remember that. I actually did analyze several of the bogus explanations for jewish financial wealth but once the christian. Go to austin me as often. As did i realized that Well i realized awkwardly that. I actually did not have the answer readily to hand. And that was why i looked at the explanations which i was subsequently able to debunk for example. The the really stupid one that is so popular is the racist explanation or july. Should say which is that. Jews sort of poss- a money gene along in their sperm to their children. And what happened. Is the cossacks killed all the jews and so the returns were able to you. Know natural selection darwinian theory at its best but a lot of people believe that and that obviously wasn't terribly difficult to bankin and neither way any of the others and so i was left having to a massive research project of a number of years and interviewing hundreds and hundreds of people. Oh wow holocaust survivors. Who'd come to america as destroyed and traumatized using people who then went on to build huge corporations like cvs pharmacies for instance and And Commodore computers and and Ship powell homes huge real estate development company in southern california. And i was able eventually to arrive at a compellingly persuasive explanation of what was the cause. It's not that they're no jew. Put jews there are but nobody who hasn't just recently immigrated from outta mongolia would deny that jews are disproportionately good with i would never say this. Jews do get uncomfortable. I give this to jewish audiences from time to time and they get so angry and what their anger really boils down to. Is that. stop saying that if we speak about it. Maybe the gentiles one notice. Well sure you know hello no to jews. Everybody knows This is this is not hard to figure out Forbes list of the four hundred richest americans every year should contain between six and seven jewish members because jews constitute about a little over two percent of the american population at most. The fact is that the lowest that i've found in the last thirty years of publication the lowest number found sixty jews on the folks for under this usually closer to one hundred so it's a massive overrepresentation by an order of magnitude so So yes everybody knows. And the question is how jews do it and is the secret circumcision. In which case. I dare say many men would prefer poverty. But but it isn't that f- fortunately it is the the vast catalogue of jewish wisdom embedded in the hebrew scriptures that have been part and parcel of jewish culture whether it's a man dedicated sages who studied the woods diligently all-weather among secularized jews who who's conversation at the dinner table revolves around it. In the way they raise their families and inculcate their children all reflect these intrinsic values. And so in a nutshell. That's what it was. And i worked a quite hot as hot as i've ever worked in my life to condense all of that into ten fundamental principles that make up be ten. What i call the ten commandments for making money in the book. You kind enough to demonstrate daschle prospect. The were making money. And then i delved a little bit more deeply and ended up with forty Spiritual principles for financial abundance which became my second book. Business secrets from the bible so together. Those two books do encapsulate everything. I came up with and presented in ways that everybody can benefit from. That's just fascinating bruce. Did he have some the rabbi I concur with what what you say with from my jewish friends. I'm in several I'd say business. Incubators investment clubs in the saint louis area and you know they talk about money throughout the family and the biggest thing that i think has That holds a family. Back is not is not talking about a money. And i you know one of the commandments of episcopalianism is i shall not talk about manny in public or in private about money. Actually that's probably closest but the but the thing one thing i really wanted to weigh in here On it was it's not just about Making the money. It's about being a good steward of the money and helping people with the money and i think when you have a when you have that kind of principle behind you a it frees you up to say hey. I'm not just making this money for me. But i'm making it to better mankind. In general i disagree with you more. Bruce disagreement with more okay. Well let's let's. This is good debate here. Because i'm really sorry but We only have a few minutes to talk today and And so if you. If you don't mind i'll dispense with the With a polite con currences and and sort of just dive right ally and i. I do not agree with you. We love we love that. Yes now Something that not a lot of people know is that in the Seventeenth century many. Jews became pirates. Now i didn't know that no very very few do for me. It's wonderful knowledge. And that's why i've studied because if this rabbi thing doesn't work out for me. I love knowing alternative career but I i have to interrupt you right now. We just somebody on facebook one of our listeners. Just said oh by the way. I love this guy sense of humor so i appreciate that. It's not humid. this is fab just telling you things are true. The fact that people find that funny is a tribute to your audience. I think i think it was referred to year says humor that you have something to go back on. It doesn't work out but says the pirates the pirates were very interesting because The way piracy worked. Was that if you're a moderately successful in your pillaging and plundering then at a certain point you wanted to retire and settle down an end to respectability and the way you did. That was by dedicate or building a cathedral or church or a house. A house for the the governor. One of the caribbean islands and you will still see in in jamaica. For instance you'll see buildings that were built by former pirates to buy their way back into society. And i think it is incredibly dangerous for us to go along. I mean here. We are all those who recognize the inherent dignity and morality of business. And and going along with this notion that we have to sort of by our way back to respectability after pillaging and plundering and the proof. Of what i'm saying is this. There is a phrase that i loathe and detest with every fiber in my being and that is that whenever the bill gates's of the world anybody else makes a major philanthropic bequest or endow a hospital or whatever it is i keep. Hearing the pundits talking heads on television looking admiringly and saying. Isn't it wonderful to see someone giving back to society. Now that's a really really bad phrase because if giving charity is giving back to society what the hell will you doing to society while you were making the money in the first place that means you were stealing from society. You must have been ripping off from society. And that's exactly what people think. Business is because nobody ever. I've never seen anybody complain about. The high fees and the high salaries paid to quarterbacks right. I've never heard anybody say the salaries in the nfl too high and the reason is because we will look at quarterback. Can we shake heads and we say mount. I couldn't run that play. I just couldn't no way. I could have done that. He's he's special but When it comes to business they don't understand what we do and you will. If you haven't already discovered you will discover that it is difficult to explain to your children. What mommy or daddy does you know if you're a fireman or a policeman or a pilot or a pirate for that matter what you do so easy to explain but what you do is not nearly as simple as you think you now it for your kid to understand that so he can tell the other kids. What his mommy or daddy does you can see. This is really tough. And this is why people complain about ceo salaries because they don't get what the guy in the corner office on the top floor actually does and they simply do not understand that for instance when lehman brothers had their meltdown and they were banned from treasury auctions and essentially was going to be a massive failure that was going to cost the entire investment community grievously. What happened is warren buffett. Berkshire hathaway had a holding and leaving roberson. Warren buffett took on the position of ceo for a dollar yet. What happened the day that was announced immediately. Turn around they were welcome back to treasury auctions. The liquidity resolved itself. Iran stopped people. Understand that the ceo is the linchpin. He makes it work. that's why he gets the dollars. It's the confidence he brings. It's the vision. It's it's making the decisions right. Anybody can say. Well i did. What my content me to do. It's like It's like a president running pandemic strictly on the basis of well. I'm going to listen to the scientists. Well then you're an idiot. You have to hear what they say. But you don't follow any specialist the whole point of co and of a business professional this. You're not a specialist. You listen to your legal people you listen to your accounting people you listen to your marketing people and then you have to decide and the decision you make is invariably going to be at odds with at least one of your specialists and if it pays off you're a great. Ceo you did well and if if there's a problem you've probably going to be replaced. Pretty darn quick so The life of co is not that simple but people don't get and that's why i. I'm not comfortable. The idea that we are. I have no interest in what you do. A my focus is helping increase their revenue. I really don't care what you do with it afterwards. I do care that you give ten percent of it away. Because i don't believe we own one hundred percent of what we make. I think i happen to believe. I work for a boss who lets me work on ninety percent commission which i think is pretty good. Ten percent doesn't belong to me so no no metals forgiving ten percent of your income to charity. I mean it's not yours you have to do it and not doing is robbery so but the idea that that we have to buy respectability by giving back to society. I categorically reject. I really i and i apologize because i was a little distracted. Bruce when you made your original on comment that spurned. That part of the conversation. But i know in the book you talk about this idea that people think charity is benevolence and business is basically piracy stealing from other people. And you kind of go through this whole thing about why i love you. Rachel vowed few people. Actually read the book when i get into well to them but they pay. They looked at during the interview looking at the tableau contents and they say come on number three states. Could you talk about back. That's okay and i do some interviews like that but in this case i happen to have read the book so bruce. Did you wanna point back to why. I first of all thanks. That was very lightning to me. In part of my My like talking about my experience was exactly that but the other part i was talking about in these incubators. Was this idea that the that they're sharing ideas to other business owners and that actually Obviously comes back to them because then a lot of times they come back to them for resources and so forth but they feel like hey. I'm successful so i'm helping society by teaching them how to do business properly so yes. Part of it was the money. Give back but a lot of it was actually The give back to society as far as you know helping to grow businesses and obviously that is a thing that helps society. I don't investing the wisdom that you've gained by the success that you've correct so i don't i'm bear. I could hardly agree with you. More in bothers me intensely that so many people of of my religion at a dedicated to the the politics of socialism whereby somehow The way to help people is by government handouts. why why don't juice start. Jewish institutes of entrepreneurial activity for underprivileged people but instead anyone would think jus of achieve their position financial prominence by incremental increases in the minimum wage. Now that's not how jews did well did well by by being in business and that's what we should be teaching other the people instead of focusing on ways to increase welfare payments. Absolutely you could not have hit the nail on the head any better. Let's actually go into a few of the things specifically right now. I would love for you to talk about the one idea where he brought out in the book that jews really went into banking and not as like this industry was the one industry that everyone else ran away from so as a last resort they had to go into banking. Why did you go into banking. And how did that help their prominence in their success so the The what happened. There is rather interesting and it's difficult for people in our culture today to understand the significant role that the bible has played in civilization up to the present time right now we are living literally in the first period. That and i mean. I've looked at at from early medieval times to the present This is truly the first generation in in the history of many hundreds of years. Close to a millennium Where you can be considered to be an educated human being you can even be considered an influential human being and yet you simply do not know whether leviticus is a book or an man's aftershave lotion work and this wasn't always the case. People understood the role that the bible played in thinking so much so that the american constitution and our entire legal framework was based by the founders largely on the work of the english jurist. John locke and if you speak to either of your lawyers now we know if you speak to lawyers and you say well you remember. Get your school right. Yeah remember studying. John locke yeah. Of course you can possibly get through school without studying. John locke provided the origin of the american legal system. And then you say well. Did you study his treats as number two or three this number one or both and they'll always say well. I never knew he wrote to studied the treatise of john locke yeah you studied number two law schools today. That needs to be this way i used to be. They used to teach them both but today they're only teach number. Two john locks. I treats us is showing. How civil lowest extracted from the book of exodus in the book of deuteronomy that really does and then in a treatise to he then expand on principles to create the entire matrix of laws. We know it so people study that one in law school but today universities won't allow students to study tree. This number one that links to the bible. I tell you all this. In order to make sense of the fact that it was quite common years ago for serious christian businessman. Just say look. The bible prohibits interest so we can do banking And a lot of people do say that. Or that's why you shouldn't charge someone or that's why you shouldn't right why why shouldn't borrow that. Argument has gone as far as to say why you should never be in debt because trust exactly and so Of what what happened. Is that ancient jewish wisdom that is based on the material that is embedded within the hebrew language. Text of the bible elaborate upon a lot of things so just to give you an example. It says that You're not allowed to put a stumbling block before blind man. Something it says in the five houses now this would suggest that my favorite occupation of tripping la- ladies who had doc losses and walk with white sticks in front of them. I'm not allowed to do that. You know which is preposterous right. I mean how can a book that has been at the tenth commandment that says not only am. I not allowed to steal things that belong to you. i must not even allow my heart to desire them. I have to suppress that emotion. But you know what apple yesterday tripping up. All blind people was okay. You're not allowed to do today. So ancient jewish wisdom explains that that is the way it teaches an explains they do not allowed to exploit a lack of information in a business transaction. That isn't transparent. And so. I am acrobatic hibbitt from offering you a price for your property without disclosing to you that i'm aware that there's a plan developmental infrastructure that is going to be built there that is going to increase the value of your property. I am not allowed to make you an offer for a without disclosing that information. That's cold tripping up a blind person interest so in in exactly the same way. The section on interest number one distinguishes between a loan that is a desperation loan to help a friend out of a hole and on the other hand an equity loan or debt loan for the developing and growth of a business. Interesting yes because because we see the bible as god's declaration of the necessity for human connection and that's why a very cheerful deity who who makes one place after another He he makes whatever god makes in the beginning genesis he ends up. Saying that's good. I mean even fresno for god's sake everything he made is good actually really interesting in reading your book. I had not realized that. There's a verse in. I think it's genesis two whereas the in the land where gold is very good. Gold is gonna the reasons that gold is the metal of monetization rather than shall we say platinum and gold possesses intrinsic advantages over platinum. It's just that from time. Immemorial people read that god said gold is good go for a goal becomes a monetization metal. That was the eighth time. God says good. The very first time he ever says not good is for people to be alone. and When god says not good for man to be alone again. A lot of people assume this refers exclusively to adam and eve's matrimonial prospects but it isn't. It's a general statement. That's universal principle. It's not good for people to be alone in in any way toll and this is why malcolm glad well in one of his books points out something that had been established economic principle before. Then which is the most reliable correlation of financially successful people. Is they know. A lot of people have a lot of friends. Not facebook friends real friends and and that is because essentially god says and again. I'm i'm sharing with you. Ancient jewish wisdom on this. I'm not saying everybody necessarily agrees. But the evidence of how it has impacted the financial fortunes of the jewish people for for many many many periods in many different places. I think suggests that the seeming to bear in mind and something of value here. Which is that. God's position is a want you to connect with one another. I'm gonna give you two ways to do it and both are really pleasurable. The first way is sex in the second way is money and so built families right. Because that's what sex actually is. You know you're here and you get together on thanksgiving with uncles and aunts and cousins and nieces and nephews really because grandpa and grandma spotted each other across the room many many years ago their eyes glinted and they found ecstasy in one another's arms and the way they went and the family is here for that reason. That pleases the good lord and the second way will how do you interact with people where it's not a family relation. Well simple for that. We use manny and many people. Say money doesn't make you happy and that is That's a mistake. It's like saying a car doesn't drive you anywhere. Well it doesn't that's true you gotta put kathleen and you're gonna put a driver behind the wheel but yes with those provisos absolutely does get you places. There are certain provisos with respect to many as well and with those provisos in place. Money makes you very very happy. And the the chief and most important of those provisos is you have to earn it yourself. And i think we all know what happens to families who win the lottery. I know and i've studied this and you may. You may have contradictory information. I do not know of a single instance of people who won the lottery and two years later happier and better off for it. I have Getting money and interesting enough. English and hebrew is one of the few languages in which distinction between winning money and earning money interesting. An english both distinguished but spanish. French italian most of the most of the romance languages that i'm aware of us the gun. Nari narrow getting money. It's just the same thing they is. No the is no distinction and that may even have something to do with why the it has a little bit to do i would guess with. This is just a speculation. Why the why the industrial revolution in the middle eighteen century launched in england and not saying germany and all or some other places which mechanically and educationally were at least the of the united kingdom so these things are really important and the the connection the idea of connecting with one another through many and having friends and having lots of context very important so god really says look. I'm getting to reward you if you connect effectively and i i was go ahead. Sorry sorry i'm talking too much. It's okay now. I i love the there. Were so many profound principles in the book and one specifically as you were mentioning. That in the bible doesn't say that you should never charge interest. It says that you shouldn't charge interest. You're not allowed to exploit the lack of information that somebody else has. You just shared that. What was really interesting. Is that a lot of jewish people ended up going into banking and understanding banking understanding how it works understanding how to provide loans for commerce and four industry and charging interest as a result of that in expanding what was good for everyone in by understanding the banking process. I mean that in itself then allows people to understand how money works in much near profound way than many. You're advancing to somebody. Because he wants to expand his business and buy inventory or put up another building or whatever it is that lending isn't governed by the laws of interest and he has how it's dealt with you see as part of god's love of connection he prefers equity to debt. You see a win. I managed to somebody. I usually crossed the street to avoid running into him awkward. But when i have an equity investor in my business i see came out because he has an interest. He's interested in. My interests are aligned. And he may have advice for me. And i'll go talk to him. So equity. investors are a wonderful things. I think god smiles on. Those debt is a little different so what we do is we do a very sophisticated economic transaction which in effect converts debt to equity and and so the interest payment is less an interest payment than it is a distribution of profit and so jews were able to become bankers but i think the most important thing in in that whole banking story is that in order to bank to to be back in order to be in business in general but particularly in banking. You've got to understand the nature of many and the huge takeaway here and it's it's in the book and it's in reality and you don't. You don't really need me to tell you this but a lot of people are not really aware of it is that many is in essence a spiritual commodity not a tangible of physical. Can you explain that. They had profound. It's hugely significant. And and so people sometimes ask me what. What's the most important thing you'd say to somebody starting a business and i'd say well i think the most important thing is that they is no one important thing because business and life thought too complex to be operated on the basis of a silly slogan. These are profound and and consequential principles that you need to wrap your entire being around and one of them for instance. Is that if you consider business to be a reprehensible activity and most people do even the babysitter. I hired two weeks ago when we came home. I asked her. How much do we owe you and should is look down. And she started tracing patterns in the carpet with her toe and she said Would twenty five dollars be okay. And i said no actually wouldn't and she shocked and i know she was about to lower. It's and i said but thirty five dollars would be okay. And she couldn't understand that said look. You did a great job. And i want to be able to call you again. Next time i call you. I want you to be eager to come and work here so you don't be embarrassed about setting you'll cry if you're good at what you do. The market will pay it and anything. Don't it's a good sign. That you're trying to overcharge that's all let the market decide and and people are like that. They believed that in earning their money. They're taking it not making it. And the general rule is that nobody can ever succeed at any activity that deep down they consider to be morally reprehensible and and that's why it is. It was one of the several points from you. Remember the old show the honeymooners from one hundred years ago. Ralph ralph kramden and ed and remember what profession was your profession What was it one a postal postal person. No he was a sanitary engineer. Who is that's right. Yeah but he didn't say. I'm a sewage worker. He said i'm a sanitary engineer. Because we all need to and again i mean a pornographers depict themselves as champions of the first amendment everybody has to portray themselves as as doing something worthwhile for human beings. And and if you've done and say if you believe that your business is actually stealing money from gullible customers who don't realize what you're doing you're never going to be particularly good at it. And so you know that's that's a hugely important principle. Obviously and again. Understanding the the spirituality of money and what i mean by that is not. I'm not talking. God or religion spirituality. I'm strictly speaking. in lab. Terms physical commodities can be measured in a laboratory spiritual commodities cannot and so physical commodities on a human being like skin color white height How much here you've got etc spiritual qualities are our integrity articulate. Nece optimism resourcefulness the ability. I don't know if i lost you. Can you hear me out the physical characteristics. We are back. We only care about the spiritual ones. Yes i love that you talk about it being spiritual as opposed to just physical because there's so much that happens behind making money. It involves the relationships that you have with people you talked about friendship requirement the giving of value which is a profound idea in itself. Actually there's a couple of ideas that i pulled out of the book as just kind of a re looking at everything again yesterday one. I would love you to comment on the idea of kane in the bible. Cain killing abel. And how he thought that was going to be knocking out his competition so he'd be successful when in fact it ended up being the opposite So can you comment on that real quick. Yes i can real quick as always by ones. But i'm sorry about that but Hey i am a rabbi. And so right so what what. Cain did was perfectly logical and perfectly normal and for those people who are bible enthusiasts. It's worthwhile to actually go back and look at the verses and discover that There's a sort of incomplete sentence there would says anne kane said to able in the field. You know they were talking but it doesn't tell us what they were talking about. And again ancient jewish was drawing on the subtext encrypted into the hebrew characters points out that It was obvious what they were talking about. In the bible tells you things that are obvious what they were talking about was cain said to abel. Father adam is getting old and we and i are. He's only offspring. We have to decide. Who inherits the world and kane said so his what. I've decided you can have the spiritual reality. i'll take the physical reality. And if you want to live on anywhere on any land you just have to pay me. Rent and And that's how it will work and able said absolutely not. That's out of the question. As a matter of fact we all gain to share equally. I'm gonna take the land you're gonna take off the land and what's more. I'm getting british columbia. That part i just putting myself. Yeah i love british columbia. Love that Cane then and one of the things we have canes name in hebrew every name has a meaning their names in hebrew. Like fred or agatha every name has a meaning and canes name means i lived to acquire stuff interesting. You know so. He sees reality in tangible physical things. And so obviously if your entire being even your name is based on acquisition and somebody you'll brother be it is about to take away from you. Hof the planet Well you have to kill him. Don't you yeah. And the interesting thing is the The subsequent punishments again people are people are interested in the bible. Know that god's responsible punishment was you're going to have to be a wanderer you never for the rest of your life. You're not going to be able to be in one place. People don't note that that's only part of the punishment the second part of it is that nothing you plant will ever grow and the reason for that is god is trying to teach a lesson to add it to kane which is your wealth is not the staff view. It's other people in other words. Even you and i can ask selves. What is how many worth ride. We gotta assets. You got a net worth what happens to it if you discover your the last person on earth. Everyone else's vanished and you think yourself well. I'm even richer now. Because i even on all the 'cause left parked on the street now and all the real estate and the problem arises when you wanna have dinner that night and you discover no restaurants i open and you have to depend on. What's in your pantry tomorrow. You go and scrounge all the supermarkets because they belong to you as well and then eventually the cans of food in the soup start bulging and all the produce has gone rotten. And you realize that all your net worth you are actually reduced to living like a subsistence peasant planting some corden. Praying to god that it grows before you'd stop to death and so god saying to kane. Your wealth is other people back to the point of how many friends view and and so god says to cain. Look you thought your wealth was in lands. It's nice to own some land but the idea that that's the measure of your wealth. No the measure of your wealth or your context your community how the people you connected with and so i'm going to teach you that. It's not the lands because land is good for only two things agriculture and development. There's nothing else to do with land the gross stuff or build stuff And so forget about building. 'cause you can't keep travelling. You may never settle anywhere long enough to collect any rent so forget about building and number two forget about agriculture because you can have to keep moving and nothing you prompt will ever grow and so adam says well then you know what am i supposed to. God says you have to figure out where your wealth lies and here comes the zinger. I bet you remember the very next thing that adam that came. Did i do a little bit from from your book. But i'll let you well. It's more interesting when you read in the big book itself because there the next thing at cain does is. He has a child with who who cares. That's irrelevant from a spiritual point of view. All that matters is that cain realizes that people of vital for your life they're not a then they They are not competitive. They don't take away your well. They add to it so he brings a child into a next. Does he builds the city for who like five people on the planet. Yeah exactly coast. Cities produced effluence. Affluence doesn't produce cities of goes the other way around. That's why people leave rural areas and moved to the city's always because that's where you make money somebody wants to open up a jewelry store and tells me is opening it in death valley california because there's no competition. Now i tell idiots he must open it on forty seventh street in manhattan where all the other jewelers. And that's why industries class stain. Whatever city you live in there's going to be furniture area. They'll be a jury area. They'll be fabric and textile clothing era businesses cluster. For that very reason our wealth is other people. This is just really really cool. And i love the idea that money is not just about money. Just pursuing. Money will never get you there and oh yeah right. It's her principles behind making money. And i think that's why. I love your book so much. I know we're really close towards the end of the show here But why do you think most people associate making money with greed and all the negative connotations. Why do they think of rich people as bad and taking away from the rest of the road. Where does that come from and really how do we solve this. I'm guessing it starts with us not with fixing all of society. But where do we start to solve this. I think it's a really good question and And i've got my eye on the clock so Rest assured that. Although i keep talking i am aware of the limitations and i am tremendously dismayed. Complexed buy them. I'll tell you given given the topic. I think it's important to note that it always like this rachel. They want a time when we celebrated wealth jer. Remember the books that matters used to give the boys to read. It was a whole series of books. Called the horatio alger books. Yeah and you can still find them in the era secondhand bookstore. There lot more expensive now than they used to be but we got him for our kids because the notion that mothers and fathers talking to educate their children to understand the value of somebody pulling himself up by his bootstraps and becoming a successful and wealthy person today. That is all gone today as you correctly. Put the so called rich person. The financially successful person is dismissed as obliged on the face of society. Listen to politicians saying the rich mass. Pay their fair share. What on earth do you think they'd been paying up till now mean anyway. I i said this Gets in my crawl to rabbi. Because what what's the definition of fair share. It's it's somebody who's so right on that they is no definition of fair. That's if you want to say equal and say equal between used the word fair. It appeals to people are not thinking it through and then the rich. Well that's never you and me right. So let's vote for that guy because he's going to soccer to those other people and you put deluded fool you don't realize that he's coming for you next and so it didn't use to be this way and you know what's also funny and I i share be the The gag reflex when people say oh you know the the richness pay their fair share but What will make you laugh. Bruce is listening to politicians competing with one another to explain their back stories. Of how were they all grew up you. Wouldn't you wouldn't believe that single politician ever grew up in any class comfort right. They all grew up. Of course i dont you believe at. It's all lies but they've so successfully conditioned the voters to believe that is good and riches bads that today biz not even an equal justice system. Seattle is just trying to pass a law that people below a certain income. Do not get prosecuted for crimes. were hall yeah. Who is venerated. Rich is not. And i think one of the reasons for that is that if you're trying to i mean i don't wanna be paranoid cabin if you're trying to build up a government turn. If you're trying to build up an all-powerful state. You don't want independent citizens you want citizens who are poor and dependent because then they will vote you into power. Every single election and one of the two ways that people obtain independence off through family and many if my family is my first recourse and independently successful. I don't need the government and that's one of the reasons that throughout history Socialist leaning turin. His have always made war on the traditional family and on independent ownership of property And so to answer your question. It's not that it's always been this way. It's become that way recently. Originally people understood this fundamental principle. And maybe maybe the best way i can do. This is a look at the clock. Rachel and tell me. Can i do three minutes of an explanation. Absolutely right ahead. Okay fine. Because i could have dropped this as well but i think it's helpful. It's a little bit of basic bookkeeping and nobody should turn off you. Should you should follow avidly at this point. This is fun for everybody. And i know. Many people go to develop a blind spot when it comes to algebra mathematics or bookkeeping or arithmetic. This is a story. This is me walking into a shop. A shoe store. 'cause i've desperately eager to buy a pair of sneakers with red lights in the hill that flash when you walk and i go in and it's great because be storekeeper. Sits me down in a chair. Goes down on his knees in front of me not as a symbol of m- of subservience of menial activity but because of something called customer service which is only one step away from what i think of as a worship service goes one way of pleasing. A father is by satisfying and making his children. Happy and i didn't think our father in heaven is any different. I think that when he sees us helping one another he smiles and the place where that happens is called a store and so he takes off. My shoes put on a pair of sneakers. I walk around stand in front of the mirror. Red lights flashing are crazy. I'm as happy as could be and say i want them. Put them in a box him up. I'm going. He says that'll be twenty dollars. Give them twenty dollars. And i walk out of the store now. We need to engage in a little thought experiment to see what has happened to my financial statements. And the way. We'll do this as well. Imagine you coming up to me and saying hey lapping are so. You just got the spare of sneakers with realize in the hills. Would you sell them to me for twenty dollars. What's my response absolutely not. I love my shoes. right you crazy. I found the store just sat down. I took. Why would i do that. Get out of here. He says okay. Wait wait wait. just give me a moment. How about if. I gave you thirty dollars. Would you do take him for thirty dollars. And i think to myself well you know. I know. that's a ten dollar profit. But i gotta go find another store. This was the last pair in my size here. I said you know what i'm sorry. Notice that i've now already valued my increase in my financial statement by ten dollars. Now this is not necessarily what we would consider gap accounting principles right. Generally accepted accounting. Doesn't work this way. But that doesn't mean it's right. That's only set in place because the sec wanted some uniform way of evaluating things and dealing with potential skulduggery but in reality. This is my financial statements and the guy says thirty dollars. I said nah okay into he says okay. Forty dollars now. Mrs lapin didn't raise any dummies. And i'm thinking to myself double my money in often allah this make sense and i say the he offered forty. He'll probably go forty five. And i said i'll celeb jew for forty fives and i've just established what has happened to my net worth a proven it I will give you full forty five dollars. That tells you what they were to me so now. Let's take a look and see. What does human transaction has done to this micro qasem cause of storekeeper and lapin. Let us say for the moment. That the You know that the margin on merchandising. The shoe store is one hundred percent. Let's say that those shoes cost him from the wholesaler. Ten dollars and they on his books as ten dollars now. He came in sat on his chair. He's replaced a ten dollar asset with twenty dollars so he's up ten dollars. I replaced twenty five dollars with forty five dollars. So i'm up twenty five dollars twenty five with me and ten with him. We have increased the worth. We've increased the wealth in just this tiny little microcosm of the shopping mall by thirty five dollars. Now what should happen of course. Is that the government should now media print that he five dollars worth of currency but they don't they print dollars worth thereby devaluing currency yet but This is how wealth is created. Its wayne one human being serves and neither either with goods. All what we call service and it's as simple as that. That's what produces wealth and that's why it is that when the storekeeper makes money he doesn't have to apologize to society. He's already pleased society by making shoes available to the likes of me. I'm happy his there. That's the summary of it. I love it. I love it burst you can do you want to go. Do you have anything to share here though rep. I i just like to say a thank you for coming on today because these are the things i think we need to talk about more out into the community so that the wisdom is passed along from a different viewpoints and i would love it in the next Quarter or maybe a six months from now if we could bring you on and just kind of talk about many more of your commandments. Because i think it would not only help our listeners. But then just like you were talking about our listeners. Would actually than talk about your wisdom and it would just keep going out out in like waves into into our. I promise you anybody who reads my book for an interview. Never gonna have to twist my arm to come back so count on ice. I love it. I love it. There's even so much more that we could expound upon in bruce. Thank you for that lovely invitation. Because i i would love to continue the conversation. Let's say i'll just say this enclosing and that is that people have got their children in public school. Find out if your children are ever taught anything about money anything about budgeting anything about wealth creation. The odds i can tell you already is no. It's a tragedy. yes and you know. It's so interesting is that i think that that responsibility comes back to the home. Which then if you say okay. I want to help. My children. learn how to create wealth that implies and necessitates. I am going to take the responsibility to create wealth myself. If i'm going to transfer a skill set to my children which then is a huge undertaking to say. Okay well now that. I have not necessarily learned this from upbringing and i haven't learned it from my schooling had who i take control. How do i become self educated. How do i become that continual learner to say. I need to figure out how to be myself how to provide value in this world how to serve others how to build a network how to provide value to the world so that i can match exactly what your business does. That's what you guys do. So effectively and you'll clients are blessed. They really are. I give my websites. Yes i was actually just gonna ask you for that next. I have provided on facebook and youtube the linked to get your book but i really would love for anyone to share how they can get in touch with you in general people who wanna people who want to reach me or talk to me. It's rabbi daniel lapin link rabbi daniel lapin dot com but For people who who don't want to remember the rabbi daniel lapin dot com. You can also use the url just you need a rabbi dot com. Very good and i'm gonna put both into facebook and youtube so that fabulous so that we will have that and is there any better way to get your book. I provided the amazon link on. Can they get that through your website as well and they can also get it on my website with pleasure and they're also video and Audio and accompaniments available on the website that woulda fill-in little gaps here and then that make thing easier to absorb wonderful and So you had mentioned another book. That had forty principles. What is the name of that book. it's cold business secrets from the bible. Okay and i'm assuming that's also available on your website correct. Yes it is the name of that here all right so there you have it friends. We are looking at truly gaining wisdom. Not just figuring out what to do with our money that we've already made because creating it in the first place is half of the battle. So i wanna make sure that you are using wisdom like today. What we've talked about with with art keeping Doctor with rabbi daniel. 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"Hi, there we go. So is this on Harry go it's time for fast track. Let's see on one side of the coin Ireland. We've got. We should've talked about game of thrones in the first second. And then the other side, we shouldn't have call it in the air heads. I said it's all anybody's talking about. It's all anyone's talking about. It's all we should go aria. You wanna hear our thoughts on what happened on game of thrones? I get the first hour podcast right Mace in honor of Earth Day last week s the as head former pitcher berries ITO sing the national anthem with no speakers or scoreboard lights turned everything off to remind fans to save energy. Here's what Zito said afterwards, quote, I'm native Californian. And I think California's just the most beautiful place on the planet energy, upgrade, California is an organization that tries to inspire people to be more efficient my family. We've been doing a lot of little things which are light bulbs for LED's turning off our phones at night, washing our laundry on cold turning off and getting off technology at all adds up. We're just. Just trying to keep California golden keep it golden baby. And quote. Do you do any of those things and if not do feel guilty? While we do recycle. It's part of this. Let me get back to what he said. Switching out our light lebeau Diebels last forever. We did do that. Okay. I I did that. But that's also cost. That's why did it. Yeah. To save money. Okay. Turning off our phones at night. I don't I don't you're not just in case. I get an emergency. Call from my mom or something. I don't turn my phones at night, for example. Someone sent me a text last night with simply ten exclamation points. And then I realized oh you would have game of thrones was excellent. All right, washing our laundry on cold. I. Let me save you I wash my dark colors on cold. But if the whites are going in I'm throwing the hot, I'm throwing the bleach on throwing it all it's getting those whites as white as as okay, all right? And the last one turning off in getting off technology. You actually do a little I do like, for example, you won't see me tweet on the weekend. I do none of that might technologies on all the time. In fact, last night during game of thrones. I had no phone and no computer in the room. And it's the first time income remember in this calendar year that was the case right undivided attention game of thrones. And I think that I believe in climate change. I think that that we can do things, but you don't have to to be an extremist either. I just think what doesn't sound like he's suggesting anything extreme like, okay. So here's something no washing all of your laundry cold as extreme. That's I think that's your whites won't get white. Can't do it. I'm I'm a laundry snob. I. I want my whites white come on. Yeah. I I don't I don't. Then you can turn off your hot. But here's my here's my off your phone at night. No. Thank you. No, no. I'm not doing that. I have to keep my phone on. Seven year old. Here's the thing. Like, I would like to do. And I don't know how to do it. I would like to make my backyard that kind of drought thing that's easy. No, big backyard. Yeah. Big backyard. But who who does that how do you even where here's where I get in on Energie any new appliance? I buy I make sure it's super energy-efficient example, I put in a brand new energy efficient heating and cooling system in my house because my other one was wasting a ton of inch. She and cost me an arm and leg, I think solar is a good option for people depending on where you know. You know, why why my wife thinks panels would look ugly on the rue that she is like a regular environmental, right mental. So I bought I put in tankless water heater. I put in an energy efficient heating and cooling system. I recycle anything that even looks plastic. And that's the that's as far as I'm willing to go. And I will by tesla one day. Don't have one now, but I will want if somebody knows how to do that drought resistant yard thing. I just don't know where to start with it. But if you're one of those guys that does it I would love to hire you fast. Chas the art sucks, anyway, I like your yard it needs some more. All right. Ohio State linebacker, Nick Bosa selected by the San Francisco forty Niners with the number two overall pick Thursday, but the pick doesn't come without controversy prior to the draft. He deleted tweets that called the aunts as music trash called Black Panther. The worst marvel movie of all time and one calling Colin Kaepernick a clown for promoting social Justice by taking a knee for the national anthem. He's also involved support of Donald Trump. And despite that he deleted all of his positive tweets about the president including the one that called Trump the goat. There was also other stuff that got scrubbed out like a series liking a series of homophobic, and racist tweets, he said for one of the most liberal cities in America and not all Niner fans are happy about it. There are lots of anti. Bosa tweets already from liberal Niner fans like quote, my Niners, drafted racist, and homophobic, Nick Bosa. I stuck by the team through good and bad. I'm not sure I can root for this team anymore. Now, the president tweeted congratulations to Bosa on Saturday morning. The president tweeted congratulations to Nick post on being picked number two in the NFL draft. You'll be a great player for years to come. Maybe one of the best big talent, San Francisco will embrace you. But most importantly, always stay true to yourself make America great again. So a few things here. First of all. Did the tweet from the president help or hurt Bosa and his career prospect. Well, the country is so polarized. Very few people don't have an opinion on President Trump either really like him or they really hate him. So I think it's the tweet from President Trump is probably divisive by nature because he so polarizing second I agree with you, by the way, is it possible. Because I so for example, both a a lot of if you set aside, the beyond size music is trash and stuff like that. And you go and true. You just go by his positive tweets about the president. Is it possible to be a successful mainstream superstar athlete and publicly support? Donald trump. Take a look at Tom Brady. He's not overtly. Supporting a lot of play, you know, he had a maga- hat and his locker ahead. You know, had he's always said nothing but positive things about President Trump. And Tom Brady is it hasn't said anything about him sissies been figured out. He's polarizing going back to your first west. So, but can they do it? Yeah. I mean, I think he's your example is would you have scrubbed that from his account like I understand scrubbing stuff like probably not. I don't think I as, you know, I'm really into the political scene in terms of I think trying to get things done is harder than ever because, you know, the, the two sides are so entrenched in their positions. I have a lot of respect for people who can reach across the aisle and get things done. I don't automats think because someone supports. President Trump or supported Hillary Clinton that that met debts does anything about it. I write I'm friends with both. I would rather. I mean to me the smart play was too. You can scrub the stuff about, you know, but but leave the but leave the has the makes more. That's that's is. I don't think that needs to be scrubbed out just because you're going to San Francisco voted for the president. That's all right now China interesting because I now have my political question for former vice president Joe Biden announce last week he's running in twenty twenty had not heard that one of his positions is that he's against the legalization of marijuana Eric Altieri, the executive director of the marathon, marijuana reform organization normal, criticized Biden for quote, his abysmal record when it comes to marijuana law reform alterior also added Biden's views are far out of step with the American public. And he hope. The worst record on cannabis related policy of any individual currently running for president democratic or Republican, and quote, you are very pro marijuana legalization for that matter. So am I is this a big deal a little deal or no deal at all in the twenty twenty presidential rates? It's a significant deal. You know, the part of legalization that I think is most important is that there are far too many people of color black and Brown people in jail because of marijuana possession. It should not be a crime. I believe that anybody with that as their only crime their record should be expunged. I think this might be a case where Joe Biden will need to evolve. And let's face it. He is seventy something years old. He's going to have to evolve I'm going of his position, I'm going to make prediction that he will evolve on this issue too. 'cause if he wants to get the nomination he needs to represent the majority of his party and overwhelmingly the majority of his party want legalisation. So I think he's going to look at this and say I I've seen what marijuana can do. And I'm not a fan of it. I'm not a user, but I also have talked to enough people that that do find good in it. And I'm going to support this way. People have all been different ways. Like, for example, Joe Biden was in favor of gay marriage before Barack Obama was in favor of gay marriage. It was Brock Obama who is playing catch up on that particular. And by the way, not just using this as an issue, but any issue you can steady most politicians, and they have all the time. Yeah. So I think I think the way this ends is by Biden switching to the other side of feeling. That's right. Take your early. If he if he is going to get the nomination. Yeah. You can't run in the general with this position Karan, he'll change it. You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles chat. All right. Let's do this. Yeah. Let's do this. I've had such a hard time with this. So Friday night on real time with Bill Maher. Did you see it? Yeah. I wonder if we have the exact same question, we talked about the Kate. Smith controversy actually, do I wrote an extra one too. And whether or not to keep a playing version of God bless America Yankee Stadium flyers games. Whether it ever statue and filling and Bill mentioned. This and having lived in New York. I know this statute there is a statue of Jackie Gleason as Ralph Crampton. Was this your question? Exactly. I mean verbatim. Jackie Gleason as Ralph Crampton at the New York port authority bus terminal in midtown Manhattan. Ralph kramden was a fictional character on the honeymooners is a bus driver. And Bill suggested that someday they might take that down because Ralph Crampton threatened his wife all the time. Alice doing it's possible that the day will come when Ralph kramden statue goes down. I think it's possible. But it's ridiculous. Again, it's the same. It's the same discussion. We had about John Wayne taken his name off the airport. It's the same discussion we had with Kate Smith. I think Jackie that was just one part of Ralph kramden. And of course, we never saw Ralph Crandall, of course, not put a hand on Audrey meadows who played Alice. Right. And I every time I saw that statue at the port authority bus terminal. I laugh. Yeah. That Ralph kramden as a statue. I so I'm going to answer your question. Honestly. Yeah. I think there is a chance it will come down New York is one of the most liberal blue states. We have should it come down. Absolutely not rough creamed a fictional character. The one part of my question that I wrote that you didn't have in there is he had somebody on the panel political analyst for MSNBC names or Lena Maxwell. And when he said. Should we take down the Ralph kramden set, your she said, I hope so? Yeah. So right away. She was in favor of taking down. What do you? I don't think it will come down. I think people understand that Ralph Crampton is a fictional character. And that will not happen. I will be honest. So on a lot of this stuff. I like like I've gone back on the Kate. Smith thing. Like to which where you now it doesn't bother me that they play it. Right. It's a very stirring version of God bless America. Okay. I mean, they're better. They're better vocalists meanings. According to one thousand nine hundred and they're better versions of Kate. The reason Kate Smith song became thing, particularly Philadelphia is that when they started playing at the flyers went on a hot streak and won the strike up. That's it. They don't go in the hot streak and win the Stanley Cup. It's just another version. Right. And then the Anki took it after nine eleven because the Philly version was famous. Yeah. So I I think that if if you look at those two recordings from nineteen thirty nine and think that she was she was unfortunately in step with the times that was era in whiz, not make her unnecessarily, or if you want to come up with more evidence than just those two songs all here your argument. But if that's all you got I'm taking her statue. Now, I'm in agreement. I more fast track in two minutes. Mason in Ireland ESPN LA. I rolling on with fasttrack Ireland. It's feels on Friday night Mace the NFL draft, which was covered I'd seemingly every channel. I have under a former UCLA quarterback. Josh Rosen was traded from Arizona to Miami. For the sixty second pick in the draft on top of that the dolphins received an additional fifth round pick in twenty twelve. According to the west gate sportsbook. The cardinals who are one hundred one and the dolphins who are two hundred to one have the two worst Super Bowl odds in the entire NFL. If you a young NFL quarterback, what team would you rather be going to for this coming season, Arizona or Miami? It's a tough question. Because it kind of depends on what style or type of quarterback. You are right. Miami has a defensive coach Arezzo has cliff Kingsbury who's gonna throw is gonna throw a lot of bells and whistles. I think I'd probably rather be in Arizona. All right. I'd rather be in Miami. For this simple reason, you talk about a dumpster fire of a front office. They traded up to get a year ago traded up truce. Now the jam there yet now. Okay. They knew they were gonna take Murray. They had the number one pick. Nobody could take of them. Yup. Thing new there and take Mary once you know, that once you know, you're gonna take you have to trade Josh Rosen before the draft. That's when you have all your leverage anyone who trades him after the draft is too stupid to be successful. Yeah. For that reason. I'm going to Miami. Plus, the weather's better, by the way, I think in going zone Miami. If you'd have to pick I agree with you and mostly because of the front office. I'm all my I think I think Miami is going to be I think Josh Rosen is gonna turn out to be a steel. And if I was to make a bet on a quarterback's upside, I'll take Josh Rosen over Kyla Murray. Josh Rosen Huelva better career because it's just a year since he was a top ten pick believable. He went for as little as he did Rosen. Have we had three years tape on Roseanne UCLA kinda Murray played for one year with fifteen games of Tapan him. And by the way, never had a bad game. You know, he's going to have a bad game at some point. And you saw the classic stuff that Josh Rosen did over the weekend. Smart Larry FitzGerald celebrity softball game. You, and I've talked about this before this is something that everybody can learn thought about this as soon as I saw you and I were both at one time or another fired in the radio business and the second that each at different times. And it was you first, and then me and at each time we came back to the person that fired us and did exactly what Rosen. Did we said? Hey, man, I I know that this ended badly, but I just want to say I had a really good time. Appreciate you hiring me in the first place. And I appreciate everything you did for me and my family. So thank you. And with nothing else to say, that's exactly what rose. Did because hairs own. I know we didn't win as many games as we should have. But I thank you for making me feel so welcome here. And I want to congratulate Murray and getting grafted Cuyler you're coming to a great place cardinal fans. He's gonna be great for you. You're going to see. And then at the end, who's even funny. He goes, by the way, Cuyler vanita deal on a two bedroom place near the stadium. I'll give you a great deal. See I thought that was really really smart. And if you handle life that way because life ten you've heard the phrase circle of life. Yup. Things tend to circle back. And after you got fired and you send a thank you note to the guys at hired. You ended up we ran into Craig kitchen network Craig landed up calling you less than a year later and said, hey, need a guy for our belly weeks later. Yeah. Every weeks. No. They remember. How you leave? Yeah. They run. Remember how you leave so leave with class fast track? All right between ABC ESPN and the NFL network. Eleven million people watch the NFL draft. On Thursday, the NBA game that night was Utah. San Antonio not not a big game. At just one point eight million sets of eyeballs on average NBA playoff game. So far are averaging about three and a half million viewers per game. Again, the NFL draft drew eleven million the NFL is king. No question. Football is number one show the week Super Bowl highest rated television of every year. But how can you describe the appeal of the draft? What makes the average person watching the NFL anything about the NFL when they televise the combine it gets numbers? The reason they haven't cancelled the Pro Bowl, which no one who wants knowing makes it and he wants to go play in it is because it gets a big number the NFL. And we said this many times before you can have the biggest baseball series in the world in August like a huge series between you're gonna have Yankees Red Sox. Yup. And it can be a key game on a Sunday night. At Yankee Stadium between the Yankees and the Red Sox, and you can put it on ESPN Sunday night baseball. And if NBC puts on a preseason football game where no one's gonna play between the buccaneers and the titans the NFL game double the number. I've never been able to explain it. But I know this football owns TV sports. Absolutely owns it. And if you look at the top fifty sporting events, basically game said top ten all of it. Our NFL games all of it. You gotta get till till you get to the World Series of the NBA finals in the masters. You're in the teens. Yeah. If you take those three networks ABC ESPN, and the NFL network, the eleven million that was the number one rated show of the week over the big bang theory, which is in its final few rep is the big bang theory theory. I guess is wrapping up here next month. We'll dwarf game of thrones. That's how big us. Yeah. It's crazy. It's unbelievable. With a game, Greg. You can play Jesse is in today for j just who is the esteemed board operator for all Laker games. Did you know that Mace? I did not know that. Yes. If you're listening to a Laker game and his Jesse pushing the buttons and and mesas in it's a new game called who averages more. I'll give you two names, you tell me which one averages more, Greg you I which coach has averaged more wins per season in his career, Dabo Swinney or Nick Sabin. And I should tell you before you guys guests on these. They're all very close Dabo Swinney or Nick Sabin Greg wins per season his career and his career. So let's including pro. No college college college. Yeah. I'm still going to say Daboh Sweeney. You're going Daboh Jesse. What do you think we'll go Nick Sabin Nick Sabin Mace break the tunnel? I mean, Nick Sabin had some six and seven when years at Michigan state. I'll say it's swimming. All right. The answer is Dabo so Greg and and Steve get it. Right. But this is a close. It is Dabo averages ten point five wins per season. I think he's been a coach for like fifteen sixteen seasons Nick Sabin. I think has been a coach for twenty three seasons. Averages ten point eight so Dabo barely ten point five to Nick Sabin ten point eight, but how good it save. The average is ten wins a year because you're right. Macy was the coach at Michigan station. Yeah. But still wherever that guy goes he wins. All right. Fact number two Jessie, you go on this one who average more points per game points per game in his career all right per game. Michael, Jordan or Wilt Chamberlain will. Okay mace. I will also say well, Greg, Jordan. Greg Bergman is up two nothing. Michael Jordan, thirty point one to really we'll Chamberlain thirty point zero seven. Wow. So really members wilt at the end of his career when he played for the Lakers became a defensive center. Only averaged thirteen fourteen points a game while Gail Goodrich and Jerry West scored all the points, and we'll also played longer. Okay. So Jordan is the answer. All right. Greg to Steve one jesse's Eero Mace you go first this time who has a higher career batting average higher career. Batting average, Mike trout or. Joey Votto, and it is very close. I know trout's like at three oh seven. So I I think I'll go vodka. All right. Great. Yeah. It's trout's a little bit lower. I think it's votes Jesse. Well, I was gonna say trout just to be different Jesse. You are running a chance at going. Oh for you lose again. It is Mike trout three. Oh, eight Joey Votto, three ten. It's that spot. When whoever if it's not J, they go for whoever. Wait a minute. I while he still has three questions left and with Gregg you your three for three, right? The. Curtis who filled in for you. Jesse? Once went over ten tail we only have three more. So you can't go for Tim. But if you pull in over twice in one year that's like having two no hitters. Era. It's Greg you're going. I this time who averages more career passing yards per game. Okay. Passing yards per game. Aaron Rodgers are Andrew luck. I I think it's Andrew luck. Okay. Jesse? Yeah. I'm glad you look Mace. I'm gonna go Andrew luck. All three of you are correct jesse's on the board. And to seventy five is second all time in your game. Guess when it gets whose first yards per game. Dan, foundries drew Brees is correct. You drew Brees is number one. But I was surprised by that. All right. Two more Greg four Jesse one and Steve three and Jesse you're going I do this which coach this. And in the case of one of these guys is averaging so it's to this point in his career, which coach average more wins per season. Okay. Eighty eight hundred game season. Okay. Phil Jackson or Gregg Popovich, man. I'm a goal. Phil jackson. All right Mace. I'm gonna go. Phil jackson. Greg. I'm going the opposite. I think it's Gregg Popovich Phil Jackson fifty seven point seven Gregg Popovich fifty four point one, which everybody's in it because the last ones were two and a half Jesse made a nice comeback. Greg for Steve four Jesse to which means Jesse you get to go last. Okay. Go against a Laker pours. All right, Gregg, which actor has a higher average boxoffice per movie. All right. Some crew movie. He's one of the choices. Okay. Tom Cruise or Tom Hanks, and it is. Jewelry, mly close. So it's total box office or box office permanent. Yeah. I'll better fact, I tell you what the numbers are. Okay. One of them is ninety five million nine hundred fifty one thousand and the other one is ninety five million nine hundred seventy four thousand. So that's how close this is one guy is twenty three thousand ahead of the other guy. The question is Greg who is more bankable Tom Cruise or Tom Hanks Bergman where you going Tom Cruise had those other those smaller movies that just didn't do as well. I'm going with Tom Hanks Mace. I hate the whole Tom Cruise does his whole his own stunts thing. So I am going go Tom Hanks, and I wanna go with Tom Cruise. In one of the great comebacks of all time, Jesse. Winter Tom Cruise Nike believe a close at ninety five million nine hundred seventy four thousand Tom Hanks, ninety five million nine hundred fifty one thousand that's by the way, the most bankable per movie star you guys wanna guess Jackson. Since he's in adventures isn't starrewards. Yeah. By the way. So I, you know, shaft coming up in June, actually, just maybe more bankable per movie, but he by far is is made the most money of any actor in movies because he's been in so many big hits. Right. If you total the grand total. He's he's got a knack for picking the right projects. You got one more. We don't do a game. Or do we call it quits negative another one game? Okay. Let's play around factor fiction. Okay. All right. So either keep it. Yeah. You're better keeping it either. It's real or I made the whole thing up number one. They're seven of these might trout's nickname nicknames include prince fish, king, fish, two point. Oh, and the millville media is that factor is fiction crag. I it's so weird. I'm going to say, it's fact Jesse I'm gonna say it's fiction. Never completely made that up it's fiction. One hundred percent true. What never heard of that? References Tim, salmon, so prince fish king fish, two point. Oh, and he adopted the nickname millville media after a prankster edited his Wikipedia article and the name caught on all right exa- head number again. See if you blow this league number two tribal people in the Congo, Tanzania, Zambia and Mozambique live in a matriarchal society. Men. Don't ask women to get married. It's the other way around women get to ask the man of their choices that factors that fiction Jesse. I'm gonna say fact, I'm gonna say fiction break, the tigr Yelm, say fiction. Yeah. Completely made what the style of marriages. Jesse? You have started over to they started that last time too. So I'm confident good. I like I like it. Okay. Jesse James never married and Cowboys who worked in the Pinkerton national detective agency believed that he may have been gay Allan Pinkerton. The agency's founder chase Jesse James across Missouri in part by talking with gay informants as factories fiction. It's a little weird for you to have made up. But for that reason, I'm going with fiction. I think I think he made it up. Greg fact, break Taichi fiction. It's totally. A whole cloth. All right. Gregg to John to Jesse one. I offense lineman. JT Schwarzkopf was drafted in the six round by the Tampa Bay buccaneer. Sees the grandson of general Norman Schwarzkopf who led the US coalition forces during the Gulf wars at factors f- fiction. Greg. Why would you be doing anything with Schwartzkopf? I'm gonna say it's. Jack. Jesse? Let's say fact, I'm also going fact. Yeah, it's one hundred percent Mehta. What? Everybody with the point. Well, you looking for with Schwartzkopf times late at night. Fiction. All right in eighteen seventy nine the rainier left there. Three more in eighteen seventy nine. There was a controversy or call during a cricket match between England and New South Wales. Over two thousand spectators flooded the field literally attacked the visiting Englishman leading to hundreds of injuries is that factors that fiction Jesse. I'm gonna say fiction. I'm going to say fact, Greg break the tie back one hundred percent facts that was that was real two thousand hundreds of injuries. All right early. American colonials use the quills of porcupines to write letters and their signatures. It is so difficult to get porcupine quills that there was an actual name for the guys who did it. It was a dangerous job. They were known as queries is that factors fiction. It is a hell of a made up fact if you made it up for that reason, I'm going fact, I think qualies get outta here with that fiction break qualies, clearly that think is a giveaway for fiction one hundred. Willy willies going there this last one. Yep. Okay. Greg for John three Jesse to everybody's. The last two and a half. Always nearly three percent of the ice and Arctic glaciers is penguin. Urine. Nearly three percent of the ice in ant Arctic glaciers is penguin urine. Is that factors that fiction Gregor? I. Are there penguins actually in the NRT? Or are they more north? What is wrong with you? Of course penguins penguin. The I don't know there's there either north or sector fiction. I'm sorry. I'm dying. But it's a. Fiction. Geez, you. Okay. Back there paramedic the. Here's the Heimlich. All right. So I have to go next. He guest fiction. He gets fixed. The only way I can win is to guess fact, Jessie, and I'm gonna go fiction. It's one hundred percent of fact. Come from Ireland. You are the Pedro bias. Hey, hey, hey, no, Pedro bias lender. You've been fantastic. Did you want me to call at kenley Jansen come on? What is synonymous with blown leads in this town usually by? But he got out of low out of a basis loaded jam. I know Jesse won the first game. I won the second game. And the guy who runs out in front. Blew two leads laugh. Nice go and winning it life. They're winning every game. After the two just kneecaps you every time a winning life. I that was my favorite of your life winning at life. All right. ESPN LA. All right. Hey, don't forget this Friday. It's faster Friday all day. We're live at El Torito at the outlets and orange off the five at city drive in the Fifty-seven off Chapman the morning show me and Ireland the Sodano show happy hour specials five dollar Takata to contests and four dollar. That is really anglicized. Isn't it? What are you saying? Yeah. That's your ambulance troubled. You have trouble pronouncing that worth my mid western accent to Conte's to tastes four dollar L. Humidor shots. Come by when Mason and Ireland t-shirts all kinds of stuff that's Friday all day. Happy hour every hour at El Torito in orange. I we began the show by obliterating our our grace period to talk about game of thrones. Because it was so good last night that that we couldn't believe it. And Greg someone says, so you know know, what happened on game of thrones you might want to turn away for saying. But Greg someone says that you in those two fasttrack games pulled a night king. You were way out in front of one aria. Gotcha. I was standing right in front of brand. She got you. You're listening to stories from my backyard. All right. What happens next? Okay. Well, first of all if you're just tuning in. We did talk about the last night's game of thrones which for me kind of unavoidable. Everybody else talking about the the most riveting ninety minutes of television. I can think of can you think of because here's the thing. I tweeted out a picture awhile ago of like a viewing party with a bar full of people watching and it just exploded when aria stuck the knife into the night king. And I can't remember like there weren't. Breaking bad viewing parties. Yeah. There were there were breaking bad doing parties at bars. I don't know in bars, but there were people watch people together. But I mean, this is actually a bar like people going out. And let's watch this thing together. I think in a lot of ways. And if you think about how television is consumed now. I think it might be the last non-sports TV experience where everybody watches it at the same time. In other words, everybody watched it last night. If you haven't seen it by now chances are you didn't care that much. Yeah. No, exactly, exactly. And it was just a totally and completely gripping spectacle from beginning to a couple of things that people are talking about today. Did anyone have an issue with how dark it was for the first forty five minutes? And it was it was hard to me. It was out especially when they were flying dragons through the nineteen. Brought he brought the storm. I mean winner was coming in it got there. It was winter. So I had no I had no issue with it. Didn't even think about it until this morning when I started reading articles. Did it bother you a little and I kept wondering should I turn up the brightness on my TV elected not to? Yeah. I just sat through it. And then I started thinking, I think that's what. The creator's vision they wanted you to have a dark cold vision of this battle. They wanted you to feel it like it really happened in the night at winter fell in what ever the hell year. What year is it? I don't think we ever find out. We don't know. Like is just totally by the way. Here's here's a all in dark idea. I turned I turn everything got the big three on me too. All right. So this from the Huffington Post last night's game. And thrones the name of that episode was the long night, right? Just became the most tweeted about television episode of all time this show lead users to pump out more than seven point eight million tweets, which is more tweets about thrones than any other TV episode in history a spokesperson for Twitter noted. This is a record only among scripted television shows. So there may have been more for a Super Bowl or something, right? The season premiere which aired April fourteenth is the second. Most tweeted about TV episode of all time and that get garnered about five million tweets, but last night broke the record seven point eight some more stats think show, sixty seven of the eighty minutes were fighting. What I'm talking about? Additionally, you know, the two most tweeted about characters of the evening number one our area number two the night king. Yes. Of course, do the nineteen was played by a man or a woman man, you think so for some reason I thought there was something something maybe think the night king might have been played by a woman. I'm not sure what I'm sure we'll find out one day. Like, it would have been cool to be the night king. You don't have to do much makeup. Does most of the world, man. It's a man if you same guy that is that plays that get stabbed by the children of the night or the children, you know, that when he becomes the first white Walker that same guy. Oh, it's all same guy. Also, maisy Williams. The actress who plays aria has finally reacted today. She was banned from talking about that last night's episode until today, she says, quote, she thought everybody would hate it that aria didn't deserve it. She said the hardest thing in any series is when you build up villain that so impossible defeat, and then you get them it has to be intelligently done because otherwise people are like, well, he couldn't have been that bad when some hundred pound girl comes in and stabs him. You gotta make it cool. She later revealed that the characters are could been intentional the lead up to that scene of her to take on the night king. So she was pleased that she was the one who got to deliver the jab to end the. Great war. It all comes down to one moment. It's also unexpected. And that's what this show does Twitter. There's this guy. Bill milner. I'm looking at maisy Williams. Actual that Bill middle Milner. You write you wrote? You all think it's hard avoiding game of thrones spoilers. Try living with aria. I'm dodging them in my own damn kitchen. I said does maisy lames with the sky. Yeah. Okay. Her boyfriend when she started on the show, she was twelve and now she's twenty two. I ever acting job. I think she's going to have a career too. I think all these Sophie Turner, the girl the play signs stark is going to be the lead in upcoming marvel movie. You is you would know what it is Greg. You know, what it is? What's google? Sophie Turner, marvel movie what is going to. She is going to be Phoenix. I sucked fighting the trailer. And she looks great in it. Yeah. And I mean, this is gray, by the way, it is. It is a great. She's going to become a great feminist icon. She's the one who took down the night king. Yeah. There go. And by the way, is it. So what color is does. Search search Heff she has green eyes. Okay. So the if Melander premonition is to come true, then it's our we'll take out Brown eyes. Glue is green who has Brown eyes Walder Frey wilder fray, while they're free into conspiracy is are you the one that takes down surf see to think Jamie's got to be the one to take. If she goes down if she goes down. I think Jamie has gone down. Don't think that's the seem GM has to be the one to take her now. So here's what here's what I'm expecting. I'm expecting this next week to be a lot of sorting out after the battle. Right. We're not gonna I don't think we'll see a battle of king's landing yet. They're gonna figure out here. We got I'm on your side as much bigger army than he does. Right. The next one. I think becomes the battle episode five. And then episode six is ultimately the political entry that results in whoever lands on the iron throne. But I think search is going to die. In episode fondue knows she will make it to the end five. She's going to go down at some point and sold five. So what happens? What happened was last night? Forced next week next week sorting out episode five certainly right in the big battle. And then the last episode will be the sorting out amongst the survivors to who wins the. Yeah. Because I'll tell you. I think John I think John snow in and denarius are in different sides now. Well, and you we know that sons into Neria on different. I coming up next speaking of different sides. The officials are on the different side from the Houston Rockets. We saw that yesterday. Mason Ireland ESPN LA.

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238 | Shifting Sands

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238 | Shifting Sands

"Welcomed Aaron monkeys cabinet of curiosities production of heart radio and Brim and mild. Our world is full of the unexplainable. And if history is an open book, all of these amazing tales right there on display just waiting for us to explore. Welcome. To the cabinet of curiosities. If. There's one thing that TV sitcoms and films have taught us over the years. It's that get rich quick schemes never work whether it's one of Ralph. Kramden. Many failed attempts at a fast fortune or the true story of Frank Abergnail junior millions in fraudulent checks. It's clear that the real path to success is hard work and persistence unless of course, you're Fred Smith. Fred came from a successful family that knew the value of a hard day's work is father had been the founder of both a popular restaurant. Chain. In the thirties and the Smith Motor coach company a few years prior the latter was eventually bought by another company in Nineteen thirty one who most people have heard of Greyhound. His son Fred was accepted to Yale in one thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, two time when computers were changing the landscape of engineering and business and he took notice of that. However Fred didn't have his eyes on space. The way others did at the time his SPA were a little more grounded. You wrote a paper on how computers were allowing people to perform tasks and learn things at a faster rate because of that, they needed a faster version of a common service that they'd been using for decades. His professor didn't share his enthusiasm though he thought Fred's idea wasn't feasible given the monetary and technological constraints of the time. The professor gave him a C for his efforts, but Fred refused to give up. After he graduated Yale in Nineteen, sixty six fred was drafted into the Marines and served for three years where he performed two tours of duty in Vietnam as both a leader of platoon and a forward air controller. He loved the feeling of zooming through the sky something. He done years earlier as a teenage pilots. He carried that passion for flying with him even after leaving the military in nineteen, sixty nine, it was one of several important ingredients in getting his business literally off the ground. But Fred never forgot about the paper he'd written back in his Yale days the one his professor called a pipedream rather than listen to his teachers. He spun his optimistic idea into a full-fledged business plan. The idea was modeled on the bank clearing houses of the time where banks would come to exchange securities, payments, and other kinds of transactions safely and securely. Fred didn't want to get into finance he centered his business around more tangible assets. His first attempt in nineteen, seventy-one nearly failed using a four million dollar inheritance bequeathed to him after his mother passed away in ninety one, million dollars in venture capital Fred. Open for business and he almost went and broke having burned through most of his funding in less than two years he was left with five thousand dollars in the bank and a debt of twenty four thousand dollars that he needed to pay back red had to make a difficult choice. He could either cut his losses and close up shop or he could throw a hail Mary and try one more time to win the game. With the last of his company's funds in hand he the flight to Las Vegas. If he couldn't earn the money he needed, he would win it instead Fred walked up to the blackjack table and sat down. No one knows exactly how long he was there or how many hands he played. All they know is what happened afterward. Remember when I said that those get rich quick schemes never work. Well, Fred might be the only exception to the rule he walked into the casino with five thousand dollars and walked out with twenty seven thousand enough to pay back his debts and keep things afloat for just a little bit longer. And a little bit longer was just what the doctor ordered after his miraculously win that the tables read was able to secure another eleven million dollars in funding business pick back up just one year. Later, he pulled in revenue of seventy, five, million dollars before taking the company public in nineteen. Seventy. Eight. Today. The idea that began as a C- economics paper at Yale now generates almost seventy billion dollars in annual revenue and employs over four hundred thousand people all over the world, and that global team is essential to the main service provided by Fred's company to ship something overnight. In January of two thousand, he had the brand changed from its original name Federal Express to something much more simple. That X. So. Worth. The huge gamble. You Bet. This episode was made possible by monster land. There's darkness inside us all and when push comes to shove who or what do we become who presents a new original eight part horror anthology series monster land based on north. American Lake Monsters, the award winning collection of short stories by Nathan Volun-. Crowd. Monster. Land Explores the faint line of man and monster as it weaves a complex tapestry of horror that fully immerses the audience in its twisted world keeping audiences guessing as to who the monsters truly are. Encounters with mermaids, fallen angels and other strange beasts dry broken people to desperate acts in monster land as you can't escape what lives within all episodes of monster land will premiere exclusively on. Hulu on October Second Visit Hulu Dot Com to learn more. We sometimes upset our friends and family without even thinking about it. They might be something we say or something we do that offense them. If OUR FAUX PAS is bad enough, there might not be enough apologies in the world to set things right? Of course, the worst we might do is end a relationship or a strange a loved one. We never start an actual war would. Libya and Tunisia haven't always seen eye. The two countries have been in conflict for a very long time even though they both share a border at one point they were ruled by Carthage. Then they were under the Ottoman Empire's control before eventually regaining their independence in the mid twentieth century. With independence however came an uneasy peace between them. For example, there tenuous relationship was shattered in nineteen eighty when Libyan forces invaded the Tennessee and city of Gotha, they attacked the local police in the military station there Libya's goal was to cause an uprising among the citizens of Tunisia who were displeased with the country's government. This Day long attack claimed the lives of dozens and wasn't expression of tension and anger that had been a long time coming but it could have come a lot sooner than if it had it would have been the Americans fault. Four years earlier you see in nineteen, seventy, six, an American crew came to Tunisia to build new homes in the desert along with tools and construction materials. The Americans had also brought a team of cameraman to document the whole thing. Libya noticed the work going on across the border and kept an eye on things assuming the Tennesseans were working on a new military project. They weren't quite sure what exactly was being built. So they waited to act until they knew for certain what they were dealing with. Weeks into construction Libyan forces washed as a massive industrial vehicle rolled across the sand. Their worst fears had come true Tunisia was getting ready to strike and they had a state of the art weapon at their disposal Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi issued a statement to Brigada, the President of Tunisia he demanded Borges forces stop what they were doing and move their tank like vehicle away from the border bill. Your to comply would be considered an act of war. Boer Gabe didn't know what Gaddafi was talking about. He had no soldiers at the border and his army certainly hadn't built. Any new kind of rolling weapon with the Libyans had seen was a relic from a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away. It was a sand crawler, a sixty foot tall armored mining vehicle. The jowl is called home in the star wars movies. The Americans who had come to Tennessee at were a film crew. The hut that they'd built had been part of the Lars Homestead, a moisture form on the desert planet of tattooing where we're first introduced to the character of Luke skywalker. At the movie and made today, the sand crawler would have been generated by a computer nothing more than a bunch of ones and Zeros on the screen back in nineteen seventy six though the actor is playing the Jowell's head have something real to interact with. So Lucas's team built a full sized prop. Well. At least part of it plans were drafted for an enormous vehicle with actual panzer tank treads at its four corners a rust colored metal base was built on top. The partial prop measured two stories tall and eighty eight feet. Long An artist then created a matte painting of the top two thirds of the sand crawler which was placed over the footage during post production giving the illusion of a complete vehicle in the final film. The Libyan's didn't realize the giant treads and Reddish frame belong to a movie prop. They really believed to Nisa was constructing a weapon of war against them and at that size who could have blamed them George Lucas just wanted to finish his movie. He didn't want to be responsible for starting an international conflict. So he had the crew roll the sand crawler to safer ground bar from Libya's prime is I mean he only had two options do or do not There was no try. I hope you've enjoyed today's guided tour of the cabinet of curiosities subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or learn more about the show by visiting curiosities PODCAST DOT COM. The show was created by me Aaron. McKie in partnership with how stuff works I make another award winning show called Lore, which is a podcast book series and Television Show and you can learn all about it over at the world, of Lore Dot. com? and. Until next time. Stay, curious?

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Introducing: Ephemeral

The Daily Zeitgeist

16:46 min | 1 year ago

Introducing: Ephemeral

"Hey Jack O'Brien from the host of the dailies. I thought podcast feed you're listening to <hes> I wanted to tell you about and then play a segment from a new show called ephemeral that right I really like I think it's a very cool show yeah. It seems like everything leaves a trace these days you need to do three hours of computer forensic work just to erase an email from your computer cuter that you weren't supposed to send we've all been there. Am I right <hes> but this this is about a different time. This episode in particular is about something that was lost time. It was the fourth networks so at the outset of commercial TV there were four networks and three of them are still around A._B._C. C._B._S.. N._B._C. The fourth was not fox. It was a network called the Dumont and during the Golden Age of Television Dumont produced over twenty thousand episodes of original programming and ninety eight percent of those have been lost two time <hes> by Nineteen fifty-five the network at fallen apart. It was off the air for good and this is just an example of the sort of thing that you hear about on this show things that are lost two time things <hes> that are no longer around and <hes> you know it's all about the mystery of you know the those things and <hes> you know things that we lose to history things that don't last <hes> and yet just seems like a very cool show for this time and I really enjoy it and I hope you guys do to this is a segment from the fourth episode of Ephemera. This is the Huma television network television is so ubiquitous today twenty four seven everywhere that it's hard to imagine a time when it wasn't on all the time I mean they're sort of famous test patterns in the forties. Even into the fifties television stations would go off the air not just at night but sometimes in the middle of the day there might be a noontime news and then it would just be dark for three or four hours or five hours the other networks had daytime. I am radio shows come in one day and then the next day DOPP loving him and they didn't WanNa cut into that business but November nineteen forty eight month again full day programming and it was huge news in the industry so they're you're on the air from seven A._M.. P._M.. This was the longest broadcast they among all the networks and really anywhere so much of their thinking in so much of their programming set the stage for baiter daytime programming. They had a man on the street show a precursor to that station. It was television shopping from today is Christmas Day Nature Center Q._V._C. The head of show called your television babysitter me could pop the kid down and watch counting in reading meetings and stuff like that sesame street anyone my favorite was show called okay mother a show for MOMS hosted by Finnish James Mother mother talk to them to wear your use the get consulted with all the latest join in the fun everyone with problems Bonnie Games so okay bother with James. Imagine your typical daytime talk show setup a high energy host cooling a live studio audience. Most women never. Afraid Play Games prizes. It's all very commonplace now but it wasn't then one of the first shows to sort of focus on mom no dishes the do know lunch to repair justify entertainers here. We'll entertain you okay. James had along careers sportscaster gameshow host Dennis James at the time according to rumors was involved with the CO host a model named Julia Mead who would assist him and you could see them sort of hamming it up lots of innuendo lots of sort of inside jokes jokes like speak good. There's sort of loopy energy. He gets angry at one person during a rhyming game when she gets a word that he can't rhyme every day. We've had yeah that's just once. Let me say one thing here. We haven't had a lecture like this longtime. The object of line and Ryan is to have some fun. I don't care what you stick with. We ask every day before the show not use the words that were used yesterday so that we can have some fun. You'll get the gifts we have some some laps but every time I could get what the same every day at stumps me. It stops me dead. You don't WanNa stop me. Do you want Matt everything is polished as it later became on television and part of the reason is everything is going out live. They can't just decide okay. You can't be angry Dennis. Let's retake that tremendously popular in its time a single Kenneth Survives today. There's a scene where he suddenly gets in the middle of an audience filled with mothers these you guys are in a suit got standing on the corner. Come on out here pop so we can see man has a good luck and fellow girl and they start plugging bread bread from wondering from Bonn well both of these kids around the bread salesman and they're paying Dennis James Off on the side to quietly do that. I could imagine the conversation where he's saying you know. Don't worry come over to this show. Give me fifty bucks a years worth of bread and I'll let you talk about bond bread and wonder bread on this show they give online and he makes a rhyme. The first sign is what is the best bred mate and he says I guess I would have read if I were being paid. There's a sketch about discipline which which is a little bit odd with Julian mead playing the mom and disciplining Dennis James forgetting his trousers on your take these office would on your other take these the guy who can whatever so it has the sort of weird almost flirtatious or sexual thing going on between them while also trying to talk about discipline than he asked the moms talk about different approaches to a kid who keeps doing the same thing and make sure nuts the cost of that purely spanking punish that trial for going in front of the sprinkler you take it. I love your name please. You can see him trying to sort of give something to that audience when there was not not a lot of programming aimed at mothers vibe seconds four seconds a lot of the performance from this time would do a lot of different things to try to keep the show moving stunts gags a mile a minute phasing costumes. The idea was serve. Keep things going keep things moving and then get onto the next show and you get a lot of weirdness as a result the networks always looking for someone who had the chops for live TV be not just Dumont but all the networks looking for entertainers they wanted to find performers who were comfortable performing live and they looked at theatre partially cassirer New York partially because saying the theatrical performers could do that as opposed to film and even some radio performers and they look back to Vaudeville it had been supplanted to an extent by different types of theater and by radio but Vaudeville makes a comeback because show have. Performers who can do a variety of different acts. They're comfortable performing live and there's also a nostalgia the kicks in late forties early fifties four nineteen twenties culture and for this older style of performance television shows were known as Ladino shows because it was video and Vaudeville there were comedians. There were novelty acts people writing unicycles lots of dance for teams some a lot better than there's lots of singing lots of music lots of deatrich type performance some of which was pretty amateurish some of which was pretty amazing. The Milton Berle show is probably the most popular moment version of data at Sullivan show also dissenting what would be known as audio and Dumont just doing it <hes> partially through Popular Show with Morey Amsterdam Warren the television network Morey Amsterdam this known later for his role as buddy on the Dick Van Dyke show don't fit night. We're Amsterdam was in nightclub comic. He comes to television and he's he's funny. He's openly Jewish all talk really fast and then he'll confused imagining the audience not quite getting him so he's doing his stick. Their guy lived on our block. I think he dolphins nodal what this dog on the end of a thick and wipe stuff to floor with his poodle psychic was Arcana would later play the idiosyncratic Ed Norton on honeymooners especially surreal. He seems to just sort of say whatever pops into his head. There's a scene on that real from the Morey Amsterdam show where he inherits property and he periodically just throwing money and saying haircuts for everybody everybody everybody I mean you just never know what to expect you with a line in Television Present Care Con Company actually sponsored the program and the goal in this show as a lot of other shows was to sell T._v.. Receivers and to sell two months image with nineteen inch direct new life hold picture tube oversized Kathy while longer life into per-performance both A._M.. F._M. Radio and read speed automatic record player America's distinguish. Tell us that one literally art work from Norman Rockwell the rock loaded for Dumont and has the all American families so to come to life watching it Dumont television set long. They're trying to figure out how to sell things on the one hand. Amsterdam attracts fewers on the other hand and he's not necessarily presenting the sooner of all American Norman Rockwell almost an upper scale view of America that Dumont is going for the sets of very expensive even among T._b.. Set Manufacturers Dumont was more expensive. They frequently would have well dressed models standing next to the T._v.. Says showcasing women the more Amsterdam comes back on the only at Wright's chicken they wanna get the viewers but they also I want to certain image and it doesn't totally work with Morey Amsterdam and I think even Allenby mind himself in memos that I found was a little bit confused by Amsterdam and the Cell Steph never really knew what to do with him on the variety show was big business and early T._V.. And the networks were always trying their hands at new iterations one of the things about two month they were very good at spiting talent on the way up until they eventually got to the top and left Dumont and that's certainly the case with cavalcade. They just stars at the time is not very well known he's failed in his only previous television show the life of Riley and he's working in Hollywood at a slap Z.. Maxi's which is essentially show business exile New York Israeli where the comedies going on it's really the center of entertainment Greece and decides to take the train across country and essentially try out for Dumont for a few weeks as the host to cavalcade stars because he doesn't really have any other options that he wants to get back in the television game so he's willing and to go to Dumas which does not have the reputation of C._B._S. or N._B._C. and he's willing to go for just a few weeks and he succeeds I keep becomes a popular host and he does it not by telling jokes the way more Amsterdam does but through creating a series of sketches and comic characters some of which became very well-known Reginald van gleason atop hat wearing millionaire playboy the brewery. I don't think I'll play Polo today. The loud mouth really self explanatory one thing I know how to do Glemot Glamour Handle Women's summer sort of lovable loser characters supports soul the Bachelor you sort of Pantomime shows silent characters that which off gleason pantomime skills he becomes enormously popular on Dumont and eventually he creates with the Writers Ralph Kramden of the honeymooners. I'm no one no any better not even leading new day ahead the honeymooners the iconic C._B._S.. Sitcom began as a sketch on cavalcade of stars. There was a real charisma that came off the stage and cavalcade of stars. You got a little dance music little talking just true his persona in the way he presented himself the sort of big blustery guy who could still do a little bit of a song and dance who could still do more subtle pantomime. I think that he was projecting rejecting this sort of image as a sensitive tough big guy he's really using his time at Dumont to play with different characters and ultimately create the image that he takes them really for the rest of his his career high with the way we go Dumont cave. Jackie is big break and they took a big hit when he left for C._B._S.. In one thousand nine hundred eighty to not only they'd losing they're big star but symbolically gleason leaving is telling the television industry that Dumont is small time Dumont signed him Dumont nurtured him Dumont gave him a form for all of his characters symbolically. It was very important in financially it was also important because gleason was making a lot of money for Dumont and Dumont was not able to pay him what he would have deserved at that time in what C._B._S.. Was Willing to pay him to Amman also didn't treat him like a huge star C._B._S.. Knew how to handle talent much better for somebody with gleason Zego he probably needed more attention from the upper executives including our Dumont himself and more of a sense to Dumont valued valued him and he did not get that from Dumont and I think that may have contributed to his decision in addition to the money and the greater visibility that C._B._S. offered but it was devastating not only to that program but to doom on as a whole in this into the rest of this episode the full for seasonally of FEM now subscribe on Apple podcasts the iheartradio wherever.

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Ep. #493: Adam Schiff, Bob Costas

Real Time with Bill Maher

56:49 min | 2 years ago

Ep. #493: Adam Schiff, Bob Costas

"Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late night series real time with Bill Maher start. Thank you. Thank you. I laze. That's not kid ourselves. I know why you're expecting tonight Biden is in. I know finally a fresh face. And this brings the number of Democrats running for president to everybody. Joe made the announcement on his social media platform Western Union. I you know, what I am gonna. I am going to do all jokes because I do everything got a joke. Doesn't mean that. I don't think he should be president just because he's seventy six that's ageism, which is a form of bigotry like the others. Okay. That but having said that he does have hair plugs that are older than people digits. Things can be true. And I strongly disagree with those people who say Joe Biden doesn't have a vision. He doesn't have night vision. Visit. But no, it's it's obvious. The the woke left is not excited about this. They're like upgraded other white guy in the race. So today Joe announced he is transitioning. Woke people love that. But then he fucked up his own gender pro now. Now, they hate him again. Now, of course, the other complaint about Joe Biden and his role was that it's a little light on policy, which is true. You know, didn't offer anything like free college. But if you are stressed out about your student loans. He'll give you shoulder. He was. Hey, he's brave. He went on the view today. All those hug -able ladies. Like sending drug addict burning man, I mean. But I like Joe's message his message is different than the other candidates for which is there is only one issue. That's what he is saying Donald Trump must be removed. This. This. This kinda resonates with me is just as he was saying it this was what was going on. Yeah. Those two major what Trump thinks when he sees this. It's like being in a party seeing your wife talking to your mistress. But I can tell the Trump is a little worried about by because he already got a nickname sleepy ju- sleep. He's attacking Biton for being old and unfit. Donald trump. Who is built like a melting porta potty. This guy. He is. Give it to Trump. He's an unbelievable politician that he could be an attack. He said today. I swear to God. These are Trump's exact words are just feel like a young, man. I'm so young. I can't believe it. I'm the youngest person. Young vibrant, man, he can talk himself into anything. We'll we'll see how vibrancy is tonight because it's baloney is birthday. Well. Well, Trump's do birthdays a little different. She looks like a stripper, and he jumps in the cake. No, it was lovely. She made a wish and blow out the candles, but he was still there. Thanks for that, Robert Muller. That's the big we were off last week for Easter. And that was the big news that we weren't here for the Muller report the full one came out. And if you haven't read it spoiler alert hope dies in the end. It was like all the president's men meet Alkap owns volt. What the fuck? I. I'm going to talk about it. This the end, but I did not feel good about this report. I mean, I feel different about everything I learned a lot two weeks ago. I thought laws were almost like rules. Now, I know if an idiot does it it's not illegal. Yeah. There was there was no prosecuting from the prosecutor, but he left breadcrumbs because that worked out so well for Hansel and gretel. Got a great show. John. Grover? A little later. I'll be making my old friend. Bob Custos back. He is the Representative for California's twenty eighth district and the chairman of the house intelligence committee enorm- you love Adam Schiff is. But. Well, a lot of people get standing, but I must say you deserve that standing for. You're not okay speech. Thank you. And you delivered great got ask. Maybe it's impolite was that an ad lib that whole speech, or did you have that ready to go a, well, I knew the points I wanted to make but I didn't write it out. Because really, I wasn't sure what they had in mind. But look at you know, this has been reaffirmed now by Giuliani and the rest of the crowd. They think it's perfectly fine to take help from a hostile foreign power to welcome it to build it into their communications plan. They don't do that as collusion. They view that. As just smart relatives. I think it's unpatriotic. I think it's I think it's scummy. But I mean, the mullahs report is at the end of the day, you know, that firecracker that goes up, and then the one that fizzles. You know, look nothing. These think you guys relied too much on that. Look, I was always of the pinion number one that the office of legal counsel opinion that you can't indicted sitting president was wrong. Oh, good. That. In fact, you can indicted sitting president you I think they're prudential reasons. Not to try someone who's the president night states. But particularly when there's any risk of the statute of limitations running if the president commits a crime, they should be indicted, and you should stay prosecution. So. But, but frankly, I have no expectation that that would be the course Muller would take even if the evidence supported it because he is fundamentally conservative, and I don't mean left right conservative. But he was gonna follow the established policy was not gonna make new ground. So I didn't think it was realistic to expect that he would indict the president, and those that did I think were unrealistic in their expectations. But I do think he laid out what we needed to see which is that the Russians were engaged in a systemic effort to interfere in our election that the Trump campaign welcomed it embraced it built it into their plan made full use of it. Lied about it covered it up and then obstructed the investigation into it. And if we had any doubt before about this presence fitness for office. There is no doubt remaining he is unfit for the presidency. But but this was our big gun. Now, it just looks like you're stalking. I think in the eyes of the people who don't follow it that closely, which is most of the country was here's the thing about Bob Muller. He's like the last per- mental last thing in America that left and right agreed on left and right, basically. Agreed. This is a guy of honor. This is an honest guy. This is an honest broker whatever he says goes Americans are not into details. Don't read it to me. Bob, just give me a thumbs up with down. The fact that he was like. I don't if you in. If you couldn't impeach before how you can impeach after or should you? Well, where are you on? I'm not there yet on a peach meant, I may get there. He may get me there. But here's here's the the awful dilemma that we face if we don't impeach him. That sends a message that this kind of conduct this obstruction of Justice is kind of willing use of the help of a foreign adversary. All the lies cover up that this is non impeachable. At the same time. If we do impeach him, and he is acquitted as he would likely be acquitted. Then the message is those are not impeachable offenses. At the end of the day Bill. There's only one way to deal with this problem. Whether we impeach him or not and that is the vote is out of office. I do think that I also think there's one thing that the country is United on at least a majority of Americans. Even if it's not Bob Muller or in the report and was summed up by my ninety one year old father who said that if it walks like a doc in a docu, probably a crook. And I. I think people recognize whether he could be indicted or not. That his conduct is on ethical probably criminal in terms of at least, the obstruction of Justice, and we have in our power, even if we don't have it legislatively because the GOP in the congress will do nothing to stand up to this, man. There is no patriotism left in Trump's GOP. But we have it within our power. We have it within our numbers to turn out and vote him out of office. And we. Showed the power of that in the midterms and the bigger the repudiation of him at the ballot box the more. It says to ourselves. Okay. So as the only democrat not running for president. What what? Still have time. Well, you talk about you know, you would do. Well, I mean, you jump close to the head of the pack. But so what what is your advice because I all week what I heard was basically to ideas that especially after Joe Biden said, but he said yesterday, Joe Biden's view is Trump is the issue the other one like let's stop talking about Trump. We talk about him too much want to tell people what we're going to do for them healthcare environment. Those kind of of kind of issues. For example, you I've seen you on TV a lot in the last couple of years. I know everything, you know, or you tell us about the Russian situation clue what you think about healthcare. I've never heard it. I don't know whether you're for Medicare for all or or improve a bomb caver or get a chicken. I don't know what. I don't know what here's what I was telling my colleagues and particularly wonderful candidates. We had running in the midterms. Don't talk about Russia. You're not going to persuade people to vote democrat or Republican based on Russia or what about Trump? I get asked about it because you know, our investigation. The last two years was the only investigation into what Russia and people ask me about it. But what I urge the candidates, and what I urge our nominees to talk about is how are you going to help American people put bread on the table. How are you going to help them provide for secure retirement in an environment? Which people don't stay in the same job their whole life in a job with globalization, and automation. How do people get healthcare? How do they keep healthcare when they go from job to job? How do we help young people Ford college? Those are the things we need to be talking about we are in the midst of two revolutions right now, either one of which would be phenomenally disruptive. The to put together are just producing this. Cataclysm of xenophobic populism around the world. And it's the revolution. The global economy through globalization and automated when millions are losing their jobs, their no fault of their own. And it's the revolution in communication, which is every bit as significant as invention of printing press, but it happened overnight where lies travel faster than truth where hate goes viral, and you put those two things together, and it is a combustible mix and addressing those challenges talking about how in this environment. We're going to put people to work we're going to deal with this yawning gap between rich and poor. We're gonna make sure that whether you have one job on the morning, and you drive an Uber at night that you have healthcare at the end of the day and retirement at the end of your career. That's I think what we need to be talking about. And I'll tell you who I'm behind in twenty twenty and I'm behind them, heart and soul any living adult twenty twenty. Anyone who gets the nomination we all need to get behind? Whether we were forum or not for. But I see. Going on Fox News. Well, I had some good encouragement from some very everybody's going on news now. All right. It's okay. What? Hey. All right. And he's a CNN senior political analyst author of Washington's farewell, the founding fathers warning to future generations, John avalon's over here. John. She is the director of progressive programming for Sirius XM and co host of signal boost unserious or Lena Maxwell. He's the president of Americans were tax reform your credit never changes year empty Grover Norquist, the president of American tax reform. The message. All right. Don't forget this other questions for tonight's overtime ads for the show on YouTube. I want to ask that same question. I asked congressman Schiff about Joe Joe Biden's, taking different tack. He is taking the tack. Trump is an existential issue to our country. And let's talk about that. I think that's the right issue because it is the same as what are you gonna do? People. Get rid of Trump is what you're gonna do. I don't see how different issue. What do you think? That is the big issue. And he's saying look you'd go values. I he believed Donald Trump disfiguring, our democracy, you need to Stanford return for decency, and then you can get into policies later where folks get in trouble folks on the far left or starting to play Donald Trump's reelection playbook, you know, who can out radical out socialist the other guy, and that's a recipe forgetting, Donald Trump reelected. So I think it is the right way to approach an opening bit. I think there's an argument to be made that strategically the big picture. It's not. Not a good strategy long term. But in the short term, it is because he baited Donald Trump and today, Donald Trump came out and defended saying, Nazis, very fine people. And so I think in retrospect, Joe, Biden, did the smart thing by leading with Charlottesville and essentially reading the president into doubling down on Nazis. His mind is changed by that. Well, we don't said that you're it may not change the people in his basis mine, but the midterm elections are reflection of the fact that the American people the majority of us are not okay with the president. He did win the Senate in the midterms in red states. Okay. Well, we have to win some of them to win the election. I would say that if you if you were person who is trying to get racist vote for you. Then that that could be your strategy. And maybe Donald Trump is the person for you. But I would say the vast majority of the country, and certainly people that are not white do not think that's a great idea. I think they're already in the camps. Hillary ran on not Trump, and it didn't turn out as well as she might have hoped. If Biden has two choices either say vote for me, I can win or to move steadily to the left to compete with everybody else. It's better to go with I can win the challenges whether the democratic base is willing to hear that whether he just gets pushed further and further and gasoline taxes and little class taxes and other things they'd rather practice about guy. But let me ask the women issue. You know, it was a lot about a native hill in the news last couple of days because and you know, I'm a guy who's always saying that the Democrats apologize too much because mostly they do the Anita hill. One. I think is the exception that that lady deserves a real apology twenty eight years, and he didn't do it. Wanna get it over because it's going to happen. They're gonna torture it out of you. They always do it. I think it may have been pride in this instance. Maybe just didn't wanna go there. And I think it is a bad. Look that right. He announced all her. So why aren't the women in the race doing better? I mean, I looked at some of these polling results. I mean, Joe Biden has twice the port support from women thirty seven percent in Iowa, I think than than all the women combined. He's also leading in the African American vote with two African running in the race. I think it has less to do with sex in the fact that Bernie and Biden have run for president before they've got establish bases in the party. And you know, you've got Elizabeth warns running energetic campaign folks on policy, but she's not even popular in her home state when it comes to run for president. I think Harris is a very strong position down the field. I think she's in the top tier of the candidates, but she came out of the gate, really straw. And she's a little bit. She's the retail politician of and I think this is going to be worked out. But I don't think it's simply can be written off to sexism. I think it's about its name idea right now. I mean Biden's up there as you said and Saunders run before even with the kids the millennials like what what what is he God. I mean, I want them to be Trump if he's the guy, but I don't feel this fuzzy toward people think of him because he was Joe and the sunglasses the sidekick to the cool President Barack Obama. So there's a little bit of that. But I, but I would say that while it's not true that it's only sexism I think there is a lot of sex in sex at play. There's no reason why people to judge as great as he is should be a head of qualified senators who are putting out policies and actually our energy. Like, I think that the narrative that the women are not exciting on the stump. And they don't have charisma that is sexist as well because only men have one for president we own. Have one example of what that looks like his grade. Is it as great as he is? I think he's authentic. I think that people are resonating with some of the things he's saying I think he's taking it to the Christian right in a way that we haven't seen from the Democrats before. And I think that's refreshing. But he doesn't have the experience to be the president of the United States is be real about young. Typically, beggar the fourth Indiana, not going to be surging in the polls. Look he has authentically. He also scrambles a lot of the definitions and it's important, right? He is a pioneer in candidate the studies first openly gay married candidate running, but he's not running a candidate for president. You know, he's running so far. It's a lot about that. Right. Well, but I think that's actually a lot of people projecting on him. He's more likely to talk about service Nuff ghanistan. And I think that speaks to a real unmet need in the country to bridge a lot of the divides. Because right now, we do have a party's divided by religion and race and region, and that's really dangerous for Republic. So we got it. We got to heal those divides. So Bernie Sanders. Good booed. He went to the she the people. Forum. Okay. And they asked him about demagoguery in the Trump administration. He said, I will do everything I can to help lead this country in a direction that ends all forms of discrimination. Blue. Why are not good enough? Okay. Then he said I was actually at the March in Washington with Dr king back in nineteen sixty three boo. As somebody who actively supported Jesse Jackson's campaign, eighty eight as one of the few elected white people who did. Boo. Only fucking Democrats do this. I swear to God. The women in the audience wanted to hear specifics. And Bernie Sanders did not answer the question. That's what the booze were for politician ever that. He was at the forum. The other candidates Elizabeth Warren, comma, Ahern's, that's cash all of them, you know, came out with specifics of here's what I'm going to do to solve that problem when he was asked the civically what he was going to do for black women. He couldn't answer specifically. He was like I'm going to be great for black women. It'll be great. But how how are you going to do it? And he never gets. I think he needs to talk about specifics. Like, what was the right answer? Let's talk about pay equity. Let's talk about discrimination. Let's talk about making sure that families no matter where they are. No matter what color have quality education access to affordable healthcare, all the other issues, the Democrats in tailoring wherever the can to constituency or this country in a direction that ends all forms of gonna ration- gender discrimination based on sexual orientation sounds like you're demanding. He say the exact words that are in your head. No, I'm commanding that he's speaking more than platitudes. But his point was the reaction cried. If you build a political party based on identity politics than you've gotta manage. But. Politics, politics, politics, are essentially civil rights the. Shouted down. If you don't. In this country has has been the default. What white men thing what do white working class men think? And now that we have more reputation and the electorate we're going to be a majority minority country in twenty forty six. And so now, we actually have to have reputation that you're about the issues and how they impact your vote based on the color of their skin. That's odd. No, I'm saying that people vote based on the policies that will specifically target the issues in their communities. Here's issues effect different people job growth. Don't win because Jonah's probably granted in part because he he is double white unemployment even under Donald Trump. Why is that policy? Donald trump. Donald Trump actually rallied around because he actually played a white identity politics card. He actually is in some ways that move on the right in terms of larger the Democratic Party even LBJ back in the day used to say, you know, the different liberals and cannibals is that liberals cannibals don't eat their friends and family members. There are here. Yeah. Well, Obama's that the couple. Yeah. Circuit firing squad. Yeah. So let me ask you this, Mr.. Yes. This twenty twenty Democrats running same same as the vendors. You know? And of course, we're still at the, you know. American idol stage where they're just interviewing all the people just singing thirty seconds for the judge. So you don't really know who's for real. But they all seem to have you know, I hate to say because it's the thing around the Democrats the lot of taxing and spending. Now, I firstly we have a need in this country to completely realign how spend money like I would cut the military budget in half. I think we would still could cut that in half and still have the most ridiculous rock with your cock out mass murder machine history of the world, and that would free up what foreign billion dollars or something like that. But short of that, the only idea that Democrats seem to have is tax the rich. Now, of course, the rich dupay too little taxes. Don't you think because we had this big tax cut? And we have the biggest deficit ever. Coup-? Couple of one is the Democrats are not just talking about taxing the rich. That's what they said. They were going to do when Obama and Biden around they promised they would never raise taxes on anyone who earned less than two fifty thousand dollars year. Not a penny. That was Biden's promise in the debate. They turned around they put a seven hundred dollar tax on every American who wouldn't buy Bamako. They put a two thousand dollars every four that wouldn't do it. Those were repealed by the Republicans, but seven those wasn't really actually was a I'm big difference to family that's struggling come on Bill. How can you understand? That's not the best. Onto your example. Okay. Well, they they also put taxes on people's flexible savings accounts they raised series of now they're talking about attacks gasoline tax for roads and carbon tax on all energy these taxes. Okay. Broad middle class. All right. But look what we've really learned right now as a result of all this is that it just fischel Republicans only care about deficits when there's a democrat in the white hats route. And I mean. Guide from his right guys. When Obama was president you're wearing the colonial outfits with teabags in your face. What happened to that? Where the teabags now they've the number. Okay. And when the Democrats are in charge the deficits not a challenge to them. And the reason is the difference is not about the deficit. No on spending. The Democrats want to spend more. What's changed in America? Over the last twenty thirty years is not the amount of money that the government takes out of the economy that runs about eighteen percent, which change is spending his drifted up. The question is do you want more spending or less spending than I would Trump on spending? But no raising taxes which is why on right to question right now. We're spending it on entitlements. Which are we don't have votes on. No. Entitlements. Where is the biggest they're the biggest welfare. And the next the next downturns going to be a bloodbath. Republicans are going to say now's the time to cut spending and Democrats are going to say no because we got we got to find a way to invest in strengthen the middle class. Again problem is the intergenerational mission. We have to unfussy America is being more complicated fiscal were because the political. The cultural divide. We got a cleft that phrase on. I just wanna say we were off last week. So I did Coachella. Not not the actual festival. I just on Instagram. And it made me realize Instagram also. But especially if it just pisses me off because it's always just people. We have some pictures from Coachella there. You know? It's just always people trying to show that they're having a better time than you. And you know, what I'm having a bed day. I wanna see people having better. It's always beautiful people eating dinner at a fancy restaurant. Fuck that I wanna say to fat people eat crackers. They found him the cat. Instagram. Everybody is always under a waterfall. Fuck you show me a woman hosing dog crap off the padding. Wanna see? These buff shirtless post workout selfie. Here's what I saw yesterday. When my water heater broke. An instagram. People are always at places like Josh retrea. How about I like a picture of you at the dollar trait? Wanna see people getting lucky at the palms, if I'm home only getting lucky with my? I didn't gram. Of course, always a lot of those. I woke up like this fucking life. There's a lot of I fell asleep like this. And of course, these an inch every meal is fabulous especially brunch. Really? Here's the brunch. I remember in my twenties. All right. Is twenty time any winner and inducting broadcaster going in the baseball play calls games for the MLB network and host of forty two with Bob Costas. Bob Costas ladies. Are you my friend good? So great to have you here. Thank you. Thank you. So great by the way to here you do play by play baseball game. There is no pleasure. I love more than that. Nobody doesn't like the other night. We Don blue only listen to it. Because it's like, I don't know. Jack Parr announcing game witty. It's again, there's jokes that you're broadcast partner. Doesn't get. Yeah. I long ago decided that if you and my friends and people kind of in my visit of orbit. Yeah. If they get it, and they laugh appreciate it. That's good enough for a lot of down-time in game. Yeah. Calls for. Yeah. So you are in the baseball hall of fame. So great got to ask you though. Feel bad that Pete Rose is not in. But you are. That seems wrong. Bob, you know, they messed that up at the beginning. He should have been banned from baseball, but should be on the ballot for the hall of fame. That's simple enough. But subsequently while at the bait went on. He did so many things that made it difficult to support him. Yeah. Somebody just unseen. Yeah. We don't buy the hair when you when you find when you find out that he was dallying with underage fine. Right. It's hard to defend it's with all the based on the less. Exactly. So, but like whenever I have you on good because especially like this. Oh, depressed because of the Muller thing and good get Bob's. Just talk about sports, except you know, what sports. It's always Costa pout leads politics. Jackie robinson. Muhammad Ali Robert Kraft, making the happy ending issue as finally should be in America and Robert Kraft being in the same sentence with Jackie Robinson, rather than starving. Well, no, one defends Robert Kraft. And I feel like I should I know like it's already has to take the loss causes his politics. But you know, he's he lost his wife like many decades. So he's getting a little of the place, and you know, we have to anyway. Is you see anybody like today who's in league with with a Lee? And Arthur rash. And you know, people who really changed culture, curt flood and LeBron LeBron James has tried to step up. You know, Malcolm Jenkins with the Philadelphia Eagles Doug Baldwin. They've been they've been articulate and well informed, Colin capper, Nic, certainly. Yeah. Capper Nic got up crawling topper, Nick called attention to a very important issue and paid for and paid for like he did it with grace, the reason I wouldn't elevate him to the level of alley or an Arthur rash or Kareem who continues to be a public intellectual Kurt flood, whom you mentioned is that every time he speaks which is rarely he says something that doesn't necessarily. Yeah. You know when he says. Yeah, I don't vote because the oppressor will never allow you to vote your way out of your oppression. I guess it doesn't matter to him that when I took a knee Obama was president. Right. And when he was blackballed from the league Trump is president. He was not helpful in the election because he said, I remember like tearing a new asshole about it. He was like, oh Hillary she's a racist Trump's racist. What is that's okay. So we'll talk to them. Yeah. I mean, he he did. He did a good thing. But right. He didn't think others can carry it. Forward. Right. More effectively so football. Now you've talked about. I mean, you were one of the first brave ones talk about the fact that okay? This is this is really organized brain damage that's going on here. And we loved the game. And look, I'm a libertarian on stuff. Like, these players know the cost. So they find -joyed willing to sacrifice we all do stupid things when we're young. I'm sure I'm paying for some of them now. But, you know, the answer, of course, always well, this was allowed to have big football is just the ultimate cash. Cow, right. Yeah. Why is that? Why of the sport? Why do we love football so much more than the other sports? Well, we're violent were violent people you'd think it's once a week. All right. So every game feels like what he'll unday. Yeah. Sunday, your take yours your team plays once a week your team plays once a week, but we want. Yeah. It's ideal for gambling. Then you have your fantasy teams. And it becomes an obsession. Look. When the NFL draft becomes a big deal. Like at some sort of quays, I national holiday when more people watch the NFL draft than watch really exciting NBA playoff games on the same night or NHL Stanley Cup playoff games. Something's warped. But there is something about the violence. I felt like if if you are a athlete or a coach, and you were interviewed I noticed there is one word that comes up every time over and over again, if I it is well if pretend year athle-. Yep. If I if I ask you what can you do to get back in the game? What do you have to do? What have you been doing taking them one at a time aggressive aggressive? That's at every single. That's all they talk. We gotta be more aggressive aggressive. It's just the new head coach at the university of Colorado made a big deal about the way I grew up with the game. It's all about hitting. It's all about aggression, blah, blah, blah, and two of the trustees said they could not vote in favor of his hiring. They could not even though they knew they'd be outvoted. They weren't down with that. They couldn't any longer justify the amount of money being poured into football when this is supposed to be an academic institution, and may be the values of football or no longer aligned with what should be the values of academic institute. All right. So let me here's a sports question. That is a well everybody can answer this one because it's really about the whole country Kate Smith. How many don't know who Kate Smith is? I don't blame you. I barely remember. When I was a kid. She was old bag on TV. I think I thought she was Ethel Merman. We have a picture probably right? Okay. So member Ed Sullivan. She'd be like os this corneal bag on bring on Gary Puckett and the union gap. What is? Nice reference. Civil war. You know, at least it was the union never know back, but ITO but kids, God bless, okay. It's her turn in the barrel. 'cause they found out that besides singing, God bless America. Which they play at Yankee games. She sang a horrible racist song in the thirties. Two of them to them. Okay. But I don't think Kate Smith was leading the charge to oppress black people. I think she was doing what every person did back then rather than her out of history posthumously made up. She'd be the proverbial teaching moment where you say, look, these this was not from what we can determine overtly hateful person. But it's reflective of how insidious these attitudes were that someone who didn't mean any harm thought. This is perfectly. Okay. And so did millions of other that sent a million. That's what I'm saying is there's there's a Marx brothers routine. We're gonna stop watching Marx brothers March mothers that is punctuated by and. That's why darkies were born. We've that's the song. Yes. Yeah. That's right. But right, but was everybody. And of course, we look at it now, and we cringe as we should. But I think people object when the attitude seems to be if I was back that I wouldn't have been acting that way. Yes. You would well not everybody. But allow most every I think we make them a stake of Suming that our cultural moment represents some kind of end game of sensitivity and awareness and the truth is that those wedding finger today if things keep going the way a are with extreme political correctness or extreme identity politics progressing at warp speed than those wedding finger today, maybe on the other end tomorrow. It's more than that though. Right. I mean, it's our grandchildren. Greg crash will look back and think we were monsters idiots for something. That's inevitable. Right. And I think that's why you gotta be real careful about projecting our values on the past, but still keeping the sense of moral clarity and teaching happened. She does a lousy version of God bless America. But I think the impulse to excise artists for any manner of sins gets a little a little or welcome. It gets a little bit re writing about a history we got to confront our history. The good the bad and the ugly, especially the ugly, but disappearing it seems really dangerous. Great. When people realize the mistakes, they made and politics for them. I actually. Examples not a good one. But I, but I do think that political correctness essentially is just don't be an asshole. That's all we're that's the best. That's how we used to be here. Some people don't go too far. That's the fundamental thing. There are things you shouldn't say because that would make you an asshole. And you don't wanna be that. I mean, they took they took her statue down, which I don't again, I don't give a shit about page Smith or if you sing the song I'm gonna get a hot dog. 'cause I don't even think that should be singing the song. They used to take me out to the ball game after nine eleven we had to do that. Can we give that arrest? Okay. But but they took the statue down. And I think that rob crap said this before Ralph kramden statue how long is that gonna stay up because they get there. It is in front of the bus station. Yeah. Every week. Yeah. Every week. He used to threaten new punch his wife in the face. If she kept annoying him. I tech talk. Ralph kramden. Maybe hopefully, hopefully, you think they should take that. I think that you know, going on Ralph. Not a real person. What what I'm saying is that we should review our history. And these figures that we put up on pedestals like Robert Lee who today, the president said it was a great guy. And we don't we know that I think we should take leeann Ralph kramden. I think we should the soldiers leave the horse. So I wanna run out of time. I want to ask about paying for college. Because this is one of those with Warren and Bernie Sanders few of them have the proposal college should be free bachelor. If you if you. Okay. Why does? Let me test your liberalism. Have you have a bachelor degree you on average earn sixty five percent more than someone who doesn't have? If you have a masters degree one hundred percent more over the course. It'd be a lifetime. So nothing is free like a free lunch. Now, neither is college. Somebody will be paying for this free college, and it will be tax payers. So are we really saying that someone who didn't go to college should be subsidizing the people who win and got the benefit from going to college and made more money is that really a liberal thing, and that's an incredible transfer from lower income people to higher income people. If you look at the beneficiaries of that proposal is a huge subsidies to higher income people. And if you're out buying votes, you go with people, you think are gonna go the sugar sugar lobby is out there to feed it all I mean, that's that's hopefully what we get away from. But unfortunately, that's that's just funneling the money that the rich people. We've we've massive increase in the cost of college debt has become crippling for a lot of folks people profiting off. Step. You is it right to try to make it a little easier. Sure. But what I what I'd rather see is actually expansion to the GI Bill and send a broader vision of national service. Not just the military, but parks teach for America. And then you, and then you get a reduction in your in your loan forgiveness or your college tuition. That's kind of broader policy can. The free line. Just asked me it doesn't seem like something liberals should before they should be for the poorest people sending with the mortgage deduction that hurts renters poor people rent. Yeah. And yet we're subsidizing the people who own the whole distinctions between the plans, I don't like free college as a message because it makes it seem like everybody gets it. And we know that when we say free and everyone black people, and so usually kind of plans die on the vine and seriously. And so I think that you know, when we're talking about this these college plans, it's more about the debt free college piece of it. You know, what are you going to do what tax taxes can you raise on the wealthy to pay for these things because you're you have kids making decision at eighteen years old to take up two hundred thousand plus dollars in debt, and basically you can never own a house ever if you have that much debt you're going to be renting forever and ever. That's why millennials older millennials like myself. We have different plans. Than some of the older generation. And they don't understand why we won't have kids. We're not getting married. We're not because we have so much debt road. I'm not saying that you shouldn't. You're not taking that on when you enroll in higher institution of higher education. But I did have a decision between going to a state school and going to Tufts University, which was a better school. And I chose the one I wanted to go to but somebody probably should've been record towards school giving me scholarship, and if you have you spent eighteen years or whatever paying off your college debt, and then they turn around and make it free for the next guy. You'll be okay with that. Well, look, I think that what I you know, if I if I choose to. Well, I wouldn't be pissed because I I I don't necessarily look at it as well. I didn't get that benefits with people coming behind me should not. I don't think any of us as progressives feel that we're for changing things to make it a little bit better for. I don't. Should this came this week? Bernie Sanders was asked if people with felony records should be allowed to vote in prison is not after the route. Which of course, all right thinking people think they should be able to go. This is in prison that somebody even brought up the example of the Boston marathon bomber and Bernie gonna love Bernie. He he doesn't will t- said I think the right to vote is inherent to our democracy. Yes. Even for terrible people. I assume terrible people means terrorists. And this you don't want to run against that attack at. But what do you think? You're setting up the attack. This is the problem with with sort of running into Donald Trump's playbook about semi Kratz as radical socialists who think the white working class or rights when when he gets that question, and he's yes, we just got phony voting passed and Florida just past criminal Justice performance, actually, Trump administration credit for helping push that through that is so far field. You're you're doing the Donald Trump's work for him. L? Stop simple simple distinction. You pay your debt to society, you should be able to vote while you're still paying your debt to society. It's ridiculous. They should be able to vote except there are a lot of people in prison don't belong there. And most of the prisons are not the Boston marathon communities, and I think there's a talking about island felons now. Right. For nonviolent having that, right? And we shouldn't be counting them all white communities. So that those people can get all of the funding and the apportionment and the gerrymandering when the people who are from communities like inner cities like Chicago are not getting those resources that is what's wrong here. And that's why this. Fred Saunders idea is that Bernie Sanders idea that anybody who's in prison cluding borders should be let out and then he actually what. What? Allowed to vote devout. But he used to do that. Okay. We pulled out back. All right, actually, people in Massachusetts felons used about Murray's. I gotta go point when Martin Richards eight year old guy killed gets to the then he can vote took away that kids right to vote for the rest of his life. Okay. And I don't think that the new kill here here and one other roles everybody. Thank you. Okay. All Joe Biden needs a logo. That's more. I have dream in less off brand footwear. This makes me think of sneakers. Only nurses wear. Joe your whole appeal is out of date, but fun nostalgic and a little goofy. Like tickle the women's deodorant from the seventies with the long shaft and the extra whine ball asked. Her aunt about tickle, Joe, Biden and tickle. You. Don't have to masturbate with it. But you totally could. All these big keepers in the Gaza Strip have to tell us, which they find more irritating. Having to work with bees all day when you put on the outfit and your wife says how do you like it? Nurul? You don't salute the bunny. Newell, Kim Jong UN doesn't have to resume rocket tests. Like he did last week just Garre Donald Trump. He just has to throw his hat. New rule. The Michigan mom who wanna semi thousand dollar lottery jackpot by mistake after playing her kids birthdates and ages but getting the younger ones age wrong. Mustn't beat yourself up about it. The important thing is that now you can buy a new home for your older daughter. And also what's your face? And finally new rule. Just because you have a stone face doesn't mean you belong on mount Rushmore. For over two years. America's had a crazy person in the White House for over two years. The Democrats have done fuck all about it. Because they were waiting for Muller. We all side around waiting for prosecutor Jesus to turn in his big report. And he came back with ask someone else we needed superman, and we got Clark can't. Trump calls. The Muller report the crazy Muller reported in a ways right because it's over four hundred pages detailing terrible crimes by corrupt president. Yet. Muller does not prosecute. If dusty Eski had written the report, it would be called crime and no punishment. Moas report is full of buts, Don, jR, met with the Russians, but Manafort gave internal polling data to a Russian, but Trump obstructed Justice every day. But Robert Muller he loves big butts, and he cannot lie. Reaper ARA was on real time. The week the bar summary came out, and I had one burning question could a different prosecutor have reached a completely different conclusion. And he said, yeah, that's all I need to know. I get it Muller's boy scout straight arrow he played it by the book, but you may have noticed the past three years. We're kind of been off book and greatness, sometimes means not doing everything by the book Thomas Jefferson made the Louisiana purchase in eighteen three. Doubling the size of the United States without any authority to do. So but history called his name, and it said take the shot mave. That's what Spielberg's movie Lincoln is about even after the emancipation proclamation. Black people were not three that required a constitutional amendment initiated in congress and to make that happen while he had a window to make it happen. Lincoln lied bribed freed prisoners, even fast tracked an entire new state into the union. None of which Muller would have had to do. All he had to do is what people in the Justice system. Do every day used the law to come to Justice not be so restricted by technicalities that the bad guys win. This is why Clint Eastwood never made a movie called clean, Harry. Sometimes it comes down to you. The attorney general is corrupt. The congress is dysfunctional. What good is leaving a roadmap for impeachment. If you know a tribal party before country Republican Senate will never remove the president Bob your trail of breadcrumbs isn't good enough. We're not that smart anymore. America is aging shortstop you have to hit it right Addis. You that? To me. This report is summed up in the words. Donald Trump junior declined to be voluntarily interviewed. So make him. The too busy. You couldn't work around his tweeting schedule a new tough guy couldn't get the president's taxes. You didn't follow the money? You didn't interview Trump? We're told because he couldn't possibly testify under oath without perjuring himself. And that's our problem. It's one feckless. Punt after another. Thank you. Rudy Giuliani said this week. There's nothing wrong with taking information from Russians. That's where we are. Now, I lay that on Muller from now on you can meet with foreign governments invite them to hack your opponents break campaign finance laws as long as it's by reason of on plausibly to the know whatever doing. For a guy who didn't wanna break precedent by indicting president. What was your created a lot of new precedents because that's what law is new precedents. It's always evolving. You can't indict sending president. It's done the constitution. Not even a law. It's guideline like drinking white wine with fish or not fucking your cousin. It's a fucking memo. Watergate special prosecutor Warsi face to very similar guideline. But he understood the big picture and his role in history, and he sued a sitting president. Anyway, Muller could have done that. And the headline the next day. What have been Muller breaks with precedent indicts Trump? And then that would be our new reality. What have been a better reality? Because now Trump goes into the election as a vindicated martyr and hell hath, no fury. Like a whiny. Little bitch. Scorned. Maybe we should have brought back Ken Starr's prosecutor at least he knew how to go after a dick in the Oval Office. All right. That's our show. Twenty. Dettori twenty-second DeVos before me hauling brand on the twenty third. I wanna thank outling. Well over northwest. Every time. Only methods real time with Bill Maher every Friday night ten or watch him anytime on demand. For more information. Log on HBO dot com.

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Mark's thoughts on Cuomo, de Blasio, and the crime in NYC

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Well actually more than that it's going to be you know they do the big our like ten to eleven through the networks period. But if you're CNN or MSNBC, if you're an arm of the Democratic Party, they're going to be providing six hours of coverage. Six hours of zoom meeting. What tonight speakers is Michelle Obama looks good from a distance, put her up there and it sounds like she's making a good speech but she's the Dulles woman in America and watch her tonight without an audience without any response without any cheering. That's a problem How do they do that without the audience? It's usually those applause lines in the wild cheering. That makes the speech Gives it its energy? Tonight, it's zoom. Meeting. A tough. Well, one thing Andrew Cuomo. Without an audience he. Just on a couple of hundred briefings where he just rambles and rambles and rambles in rambles but he's got a good gift to Gab his. Father made his mark nationally in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, four, they were having the convention. Hey, isn't that interesting? That was the Mondale Convention. But it's insecurity is similar to this. Isn't it? Yeah. It's the same exact situation. Reagan was a very successful president who is running for reelection and nobody I don't know it's tough who could go up against him. So they picked the old veteran middle of the road vice president Mondale. Same thing is now the old middle-of-the-road. Veteran. Vice President of course Montvale was conscious and breathing. That's the only difference But in it's the same exact situation Mondale being such a drab middle of the road. Vice, president needed some some sparkle to his ticket. So he did something that never been done before he picked a woman Geraldine Ferraro. It was a you know he figured if you'RE GONNA lose if you're going to get wiped out by the Republicans are very successful beloved great talker He might as well make history. So he picked Ferraro. So Biden kind of the same thing I think he no well, I don't know if he's awake or aware, but whoever's running him I think they know they'll probably get wiped out here. So let's make some history choose Kamala Harris The problem is it's not really a breakthrough. What's the breakthrough? That it's a woman. We had a woman at the top of the tickets, not a breakthrough. Forty had a woman at the bottom of the tickets, not a breakthrough. African. American and African American, President for eight years. So I don't know where the breakthrough is on this but tonight, Andrew Cuomo will speak in nineteen eighty-four. At, what was otherwise going to be adult convention Mario Cuomo made the greatest speech of his life. Do you remember watching that it was? Actually. I was in San Francisco when he made it, you were there. Yeah. What was it like an room when he spoke It was you know what happened was everybody. Who was there said we'd rather have him then, Monday? started. We won Cuomo button started circulating history repeats itself. You see the same thing today. Although. The difference was again the audience Cuomo you knew how to hit every beat and time it. Just right. The cheers would arise, but he made that powerful speech about the. Experience of an immigrant and his family was an immigrant and his father was an immigrant. He was in the emigrant. He told his stories were crying about how the father had a little grocery store and worked so hard that when he came home at night, his feet were bleeding. You remember that have ready was crying and then the next day people start to think wait a minute is feet were bleeding. Feebly. We can see what I got swollen but what does that mean is why would? The nails over the floor, what is and then start to ask doctors possibly work so hard your feet would bleed and they know there's no medical explanation of how the so it was just flowery gibberish and it's kind of like Andrew, Cuomo. So he'll make this great speech. They'll talk about what a phenomenal success he is governor. Now, of course, just the opposite is true he's got the worst track record of any governor in America half his citizens live in New York City and half his citizens are getting shot and mugged. there's a crime wave that's unbelievable. New York City has been murdered by Bill De. BLASIO and Mario Cuomo. Andrew Cuomo if you take New York City that's just evidence right there that Andrew Cuomo is a disaster, an absolute disaster he and the blog, and then if you look at the corona virus, he had the worst. Death rate of anybody beat most countries. When it comes to death rate, he killed thirteen thousand seniors in nursing homes. He locked down way too late. Worst death members worse. Corona numbers they might say, Hey, but the pretty good. Now, lot of experts are now saying they think they're good new. York now because he let it get. So out of control, he created herd immunity herd immunity usually requires seventy five percent to get it. Put to hear it. We've got to about thirty, thirty, five percent some experts now looking at the scene you know what? Maybe thirty five percent herd immunity can make a huge difference maybe it's enough. he's been a disaster he still a disaster he's still got your lockdown He's made. You know he's trying to make it. Look you know we used to be let's get everything reopened. Let's reopen. Now everything's locked down and he's now doing these fake reopenings. Like this weekend, he said I'm GONNA allow bowling alleys to reopen. Great. There's three New York now. The three bullying can reopen. Joe. Bartlett last time you went bowling was. Oh, my God gotta be. Twenty years ago at least bowling alleys can reopen. You know if you go back a couple of weeks, how many of your friends were? Just go bowling again. When are we gonNA go bowling again Wednesday bowling he's GonNa nobody was looking for this if you're not Ralph Kramden at the night nights of the raccoons or whatever. You really. Norton. With the only ones waiting for the bowling alley to reopen so and then he said he allow the museums to reopen. They must be hit twenty percent capacity. They're normally at five percent capacity I know sometimes they get crowded, but that's all tourists. There are no tourists of the museums can't get crowded Lay Down there. You've got indoor dining, right? Yes. And it's been what two months of that. Yeah. You know what is interesting because I I went indoors for the first time last week I gotTa tell you. No. No. No. They are very good about keeping the tables apart. They have special air conditioning units circulate the air everything is sanitized people with a felt very comfortable. Believe it or not, and I think it can be done in New York and it probably should be done. Well it's done in Long Island. It's done west. Told you had dinner endorsement was that a week and a half ago? Right everybody you gotta check with everybody else and make sure they're okay. Everybody's fine. Hey, look at Connecticut, which is two feet away. Connecticut. Look at Greenwich. Connecticut. They've had indoor dining that mayor Fred Kamilo he's done a great job. This is he's such a good job even lifted the emergency it's no longer in. St Anymore they've had indoor dining and Two. Months maybe two and a half months and nobody's getting sick. There is no spike. Everything is fine. There in a governor Connecticut Ned Lamont. He's been doing a great job. He's now talking about in September going back to maybe full capacity on indoor dining. That's pretty amazing. The dances are starving here in the city. New York City restaurants are dying. Okay. But you can go bowling don't complaint. Could have a eighteen month old hot dog in a bowling alley at the counter there. That's another thing he said. This is the dumbest governor ever said not only can you go bowling? It's going to be every other lane. Let's say it wasn't every other lane. You still not close to anybody. It's still six feet away, but he said not only that hill allow you to eat in the bowling alley. Wants to eat in a bowling alley. The, let's go bowling alley. So Winds rates maybe. Okay drink Okay. But he's a little. He's just completely. The only thing saving him. Is that you've got the worst mayor ever in history. blasios is an absolute nightmare. The president listened to the President Fox and friends this morning onto Blah's. Response he doesn't know what he's doing. He's a fool. He's a socialist communist maybe he's the fool he got rid of a thousand. He got rid of some of the most talented policemen. That there are in the world and that includes looking for very bad things all beyond New York some of those people are gone and that's no good. He is without question I don't think it'd be able dispute this single dumbest elected official ever in history the biggest disaster ever in elected office completely Q. Imagine that completely destroyed New York City we got hit with a pandemic got locked down horrible couple of months but it looks like we get through and this insane lunatic mayor withdraws police protection from most neighborhoods allows the whole place to go to help he and Cuomo have murdered New York City? They had fifty shootings this weekend fifty shootings nobody's getting more people shot than build a. Oh He's an absolute nightmare. He's the worst mayor ever the president now saying that if he has to hilty Hilson the troops in protecting. I. Hope he does and I hope he listened the presence got rudy. Giuliani. On his team I'm sure if he called Ray Kelly or whoever whatever experts I'm sure they'll help. You could have the best in the world vising protection New York sending Federal Agents Federal Troops National Guard FBI whatever you need. Joe Bartlett, feel safe. You're far away from New York City? What's amazing this collapse happened real quickly I mean they've planted the seeds early on but within a matter of four to five months, the city is really a in a shambles. Well you gotta give De Blasios credit as a terrible terrible terrible disaster quick and he's a fantasy disaster. CUOMO is for Cuomo take has to have full responsibility for this. He just sat there and laughed and watched look at Schumer. Schumer. Who supposed to be representing you when the Police Department got shut down dismantled Schumer never said a word. Here's a guy likes to have a press conference. Every two seconds suddenly was silent suddenly went quiet. Fund. The police never said a word. They tried to cut four cents off the post office budget. He pulled out that podium and there's a press conference speak maintenance worried is GONNA lose? It doesn't matter. Our elections are sacred. Men and women have died for them. And the right to vote. And to do this is disgraceful. Of The post office defunding police took. Makoto removed the mailbox what and he's yelling and screaming. If you talk about how sacred voters men and women died for this vote and then you see schmuck. Think. Maybe. The votes, not that important if we got this idiot. So here's the deal. and the president has been saying this privately he's got the election one. If you look at the real polls, not the fake public polls, he's got the election one. The only thing that could change that and he said the only thing that can change it is voter fraud. If tamper with the ballots, it's the only way they can win they know that too. So that's why the mail in voting now there's two things you gotta look at the kind of proves what they're up to. WHO's there idol that they listen to? You must listen to Dr Fauci right. That's their God. You must listen to anything doctor. FAUCI says, he you follow the science on Friday Dr Fatty said in person voting is absolutely safe and we should do vote in person Dr. Fao. She said that suddenly that's if they turn on him now let's see if they hate him now suddenly they won't listen to Dr and then interesting. The thing is I mean you stand in line to get your groceries you're gonNA have to stand in line to. Go to the bowling alley you can stand in line to vote. Exactly and if you really wanted to get fanatical about super super-safe, you could extend the election instead of one day do it over two days three days in other words, people with the initials ADA. Am Vote Day one people initials end Dec- Vote Day to that way you cut in half, get another piece of evidence who is the quickest to send out these male and things Phil Murphy in New Jersey Right he couldn't get these male in votes out fast right now he's not speaking the DNC, right Now he's the last guy on earth, you'd ever invited to speak at the DNC. He's totally meaningless guy. He's not known to the country he's not much of a speaker. He has no business being speaker, the DNC why is he being awarded rewarded with this speech? The DNC because he's been playing ball with the DNC, they asked him to switch it to mail in voting and he was the first yell and scream about he's GonNa mail in voting and he sent them out now think about this for a second. Back a few weeks before he made that deal with the DNC. Few weeks ago what was he doing? He was bragging about how he got the motor vehicle departments all open all the motor vehicle offices are open. He then bragged that he processed they had four hundred, thirty, five, thousand people in line at those motor vehicle offices and they got them all processed. He also bragged that he got forty thousand road tests done eliminating the backlog. Well, if you could do that, why can't you open the polling place? Isn't that a pretty interesting situation wouldn't that make appear that this is all total fraud, the whole voting thing. It does. well, as we got lots of get it, we'll get to Robert. Trump. Will Get to We'll get to the hotel's reopening that's. Lots to talk about Oh and Michael Goodwin wrote the. Powerful column yesterday about. The crime and how to Blasio. Cuomo just destroyed New York City. Well, he'll be with us in a few minutes check the web pages a lot of good stuff up there, and we put new videos up every day Here's a great. 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Chinese Has No Grammar, Right? Wrong!

Lexicon Valley

48:33 min | 1 year ago

Chinese Has No Grammar, Right? Wrong!

"From New York City this is lexicon valley a podcast about language. I'm John mcwhorter and you know it's time to do Language family show. Those are always fun. I like doing them. And you out there in the dark seemed to enjoy them and so let's do one of those. I think the way we're going to handle this is that I'm always telling aspiring linguistics. Students are just language. Heads that if you want to your way around languages than really you should at least mess around with a language like Russian and mess around with a language like Chinese. And what do I mean by that well with Russia? And you're dealing with lots and lots of endings you've got case endings and you've got conjugation than all the irregularity. That's what Russian does for you and there's lots of languages like that Greek Latin. You can go further afield. You said learn a language like that then if you want to have a sense of what? Languages are like in general well. English is kind of in the middle. Russian is extreme with all of that ending stuff. Then you want to deal with the language like Chinese Chinese works completely differently from English or Russian or most of the languages that were likely to learn including even these days Japanese and Arabic Chinese. Don't think there many many languages that operate like Chinese but the one that's easiest for Westerner to approach for various reasons would be mandarin Chinese in particular and so with this show this language family show. Let's do Chinese and I know what you're thinking you're thinking well why just one language is supposed to be about a family and you're just going to do little. Chinese. That's no fun but no no. We'll get to it. It is going to be about a family in spite of itself. Remember though this is not going to be about. Writing Language is about speech. It is not about writing which is just an approximation of what actual communication is give. Writing System of Chinese is a fabulous beautiful treacherous clumsy thing. I I get it. You want to know about that but you also want to know what is being written by all those characters and to tell you the truth. I will openly say that to me before I knew my way around languages. Chinese always sounded odd. Like it's one thing to your. Somebody's speaking Polish. And you think well that's just a different language from English or Hebrew different language from English. Chinese always sounded like something very very different because the sound system is very different. So if it sounds that way to you. Just because it's unfamiliarity how does that language work they're communicating with all of the richness and nuance that were communicating in English. What is that would well in order to get a sense of. Let's get in a plane and we're GONNA fly around the world and there's going to be a song for that and the song is actually from the world's fair of nineteen sixty four for some reason at the world's fair in nineteen sixty four in queens not far from where I live. There's a little musical they were doing but it wasn't little it was as full blown musical review that you could sit through while you were at the fair and for some reason. This was commercially recorded. So you can still hear the music and one of the songs is actually by the guys who did fiddler on the roof. This is sheldon. Hana Jerry bock these. Are these guys right when they were doing fiddler? They also wrote a song called popsicles and Paris. Which I find very charming and it will help us to travel and even get exactly where we're going here is popsicles in Paris. World's fair of nineteen sixty four five s a Guy. This episode is brought to you by progressive. What would you do with an extra eight hundred dollars by plane ticket? Pay Down your student. Loan treat yourself those shoes. You eyeing with progressive. You could find out drivers to switch and save save an average of seven hundred ninety six dollars on car insurance. Get your quote online at Progressive Dot Com and see how much you could be saving national average annual car insurance savings by new customer survey who save with progressive in two thousand nineteen. Hello slate listeners. Do us a favor and help us make a better slate by answering our survey it'll only take a few minutes. You can find it at slate. Dot Com slash survey so popsicles and Parison Shishkabob in Shanghai? Let's stop here over Shanghai CISCO BOB WE'RE GONNA get but here. We are in China now. China looks like or if you don't happen to know take a look. China is a big thing. It's a vast stretch of land. I'm taking a guess that it's bigger than that. Little Peninsula called Europe. It's huge and yet think about the language map of Europe. You've got different language. Every two feet Hungarian French sweetest now here. We are in China and apparently all anybody speak since this language called Chinese over all of that land people have been there since the dawn of time. And somehow they've only really developed one language. Chinese or of course we're aware that Chinese dialects so there's the mandarin dialect Cantonese dialect but they're all dialects of this one language Chinese. Think about it. That doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't there be more languages there by now and really if you take a look at these dialects you can see. There's something wrong. In the way we refer to them so for example to say introduce in Mandarin Gish. Shall there you go shall by the way? Yeah I'm this is me. I am going to say the Chinese over the course of doing this. Podcast I've gone from being afraid pronounce the syllable and I used to always get recording. Somebody else to now. I am unafraid to sound like a perfect ask throughout this whole episode but Yes it's GonNa be me so Mandarin Geshe. That's two introduced now in the Cantonese dialect. That same word is guys you guys you so just show guys you do. Those really seem like dialects of one language. Really they're completely different whereas they both mean to introduce you can eat Santa certain likeness but they're a little too different to really qualify as dialects in the sense that there's a standard American in a standard British dialect of English. And what it's really about. Is that this Chinese language in all its varieties. We might call them at. This point is all written with the same writing system so Mandarin Cantonese are written the same way. A passage of Mandarin translate into Cantonese will often look exactly the same because the characters are pictures or representations of whole words so it's not alphabetic but think about it this way when of the US in Spanish good good so when the Italian bond okay so Ueno born. You can tell. There's a relationship Giorno. We'll just have to leave that Portuguese Bom Jia so Ueno Bone Jia the US. All those things are related. You know they all came from the same thing at one point Latin. You can tell now. Imagine if the writing system were about pictures in the same way as Chinese and so. Let's say that the way that you wrote good was somebody smiling Smiley face and the way that you wrote day was a little son. So you mentioned smile son and that means good day in. Imagine if that's how you wrote win on the US and Bond Orono Impo Jia men of all those were written that way now imagine someone saying. Yeah they're all the same language and notice how even we might think of it that way if that's how the writing work because we always think that writing is language so you've got the smile and the sun that's how you write good day and while the fact that one of the US and bone door no really are quite different. You might get used to not thinking about that much and so you can imagine someone saying. Oh yeah those are the romance dialects but all of them are the same language but obviously no. That's not really the case so win of the US and won't GIORDANO ARE SIMILAR TO JEWISH. And guys you you have a writing system these two dialects. Look the same but really. They're different languages now. Where do you draw the line between what the language is a dialect as we've seen there's no line to be drawn is Scott's a dialect of English or is it a separate line with hard to say are people who are speaking Gulf Creole in South Carolina? You can watch film daughters of the dust. Are they speaking different languages dialect of English there tough cases but frankly when it comes to something like Mandarin Cantonese? It's not even hard. Those are in the grand scheme of things. They're different languages. They're only called dialects because they're spoken within the polity of China and because they're all written with the same system which means that they look like the same thing which is easy to mistake as them being the same thing but see. This is what this means. This isn't a show about one language. This is a show about a language family. These languages are what linguists? Call this nick languages so you could say the Chinese languages. There's no one language Chinese there hasn't been for several millennia. Chinese languages are big and fat family. So what are all these languages? Mandarin is the Lingua Franca. One you know Mandarin is spoken by by some counts about billion people that means that one in seven people on Earth Speak Mandarin that includes everybody in New York City except me basically well. Donald trump those two people but everybody speaks mandarin in the whole world. So that's Mandarin but then Cantonese is the next most prominent Chinese language especially here in America because before nineteen sixty five most people who immigrated here from China were Cantonese Speakers Not Mandarin speakers after the Immigration Act of nineteen sixty five large numbers of mandarin-speakers started to come so today were very familiar with Chinese and Chinese American people who speak Mandarin but back in the day the Chinese you're likely to hear was Cantonese and what that means. Is that if you see a movie where it's before about nineteen seventy and their Chinese people and they're speaking Mandarin. That's probably a mistake and even in something that I love deeply and I've mentioned this show on this podcast before the Marvelous Mrs Mazel. It is exquisite every second of it but one language is that in that last thread that they had with the whole Chinatown sub story. Those people speaking Mandarin is probably not right. Those people at that time spoken Cantonese. So I've read stories about the very charming actress who they have playing Jake's Chinese girlfriend Housing Policy Mandarin and I thought well that must have been fun. Technically those characters would be speaking Cantonese. Or there's a little scene in cotton comes to Harlem which is kind of the first blaxploitation picture and it's a fascinating piece of work in many ways but at one point there Chinese restaurant and the waitress comes out and says nuts wallace. You saying something like. I'm sorry I brought you the wrong thing. Well no that woman would probably have spoken Cantonese. Is that kind of thing. Cantonese is the Chinese language in America until really about ten minutes ago. It's time for a song and you know what we're going to have songs of this time. Hugh Martin he was a Broadway composer of minor note and you do know a song by him because he wrote have yourself a merry little Christmas which was originally in the movie. Meet me in St. Louis but Hugh Martin only had four depending on how you count it. Maybe five shows on Broadway. Two of them were minor. Hits Two of them were respectable. Flops and I know this is supposed to be a podcast about language but I'm not even GonNa try this time and it's because I deserve this I'm Gonna I'm gonNA treat yourself so to speak. I had a bad week. Columbia and I like to always say that. Everything's happy in the valley but to tell you the truth. We are thinking about the virus down here in the valley as well and all of my courses are now going online and all the students have been asked to go home. And it's not like I have any experience with communicating about language in the audio medium. So this is going to be completely unfamiliar to me. It's not fun and my life is thrown upside and you know they're going to close the schools and they probably should but I'll be at home with my cuties so things are just not right and so I want music that I like so this is just going to be candy. Hugh Martin songs are like gingerbread cookies. Which I'll probably be making with my girls in about two weeks at home. This is a little song called the three BS. This is Nancy Walker familiar to those of certain ages wrote a Morgan stearns mother and as the pitch person for bounty paper towels. I love hearing her sing in old Broadway shows and she's joined by June allyson and the Luscious Lips Gloria to haven. The movie is best foot forward. This is nineteen forty four at MGM film of a stage musical. This is the three bs it's bookie cookies. Kabuki conduct splash. And that's just like I said bogey-bogey win out of much. It makes a fool of just goes to show you that that's bogey-bogey does way clouds. We'd a liquor. Guess not now the crown along so then Taiwanese you hear about that one. That's another one of these quote unquote dialects but no Taiwanese is part of a whole Chinese language. That's called men. We don't hear that name much but it's the men language and it's actually men spoke by more people than Cantonese is and there are many different kinds of men and many of them are not even mutually intelligible. Taiwanese is spoken. Well you can guess but then when you go over onto the mainland then you've got what's often called Hokkien or Fujianese. That's very different from Taiwanese. All of that is men then. Sometimes you'll hear Chinese person who speaks Mandarin casually toss that they also speak Shanghainese and to them. It's very natural and I always think myself damn it. You know that person doesn't quite understand that. Shanghainese is a completely separate language. They know on a certain level. But you know man. Running Shanghainese are written the same way so they look like they're quote unquote the same thing but Shanghainese is not just some sort of Mandarin. It is one kind of a whole other. Chinese-language called Wu and it's different from Mandarin as duchess from German. And I could go on and won't because lists get boring fast but even a conservative estimate of. How many Chinese language is there are would say that they're seven like the fifth sixth and seventh here are called Hakka? Gone and Shung knows. We never hear about those. Unless we're chinese-language nerds but those are spoken by lots and lots of people and those are alongside what we might call Mandarin Cantonese Taiwanese and Shanghainese familiarly. And really there other varieties where you could say that. They belong to one of those seven languages but really they're so different that probably their languages of their own and then on top of that thinking about what the language map of China really looks like there are actual dialects of these languages so for example. This is Something that just happened a few weeks ago. I like to go to one of those Chinese buffets here in Queens. Because my girls like them. Of course that's the only reason I don't like delicious. Greasy food is just for them so we go there and yeah because the Chinese buffet. The people who run it they tend to speak some Chinese. And I'm always trying to practice because it's my hobby and there was one waiter who really didn't speak English that well and so. I figured well I'm going to try it out because I can tell. He has a sense of humor. So we're all dirty and I want to wipe wipe my little one's hands and so I used the word top top that means wipe so I used it and he kind of smiled. He said chopped. And I'm actually getting to the point that the languages sliding into my natural arrogance and I just thought to myself no no this time. I'm right and I said no not chop and he said yes chop and I said no and he said pronunciation so I said well come. Here really did go like this. I said come here. Write down what you're saying and he wrote C. H. A. And so we kept on going back and forth and it became clear that he speaks a different dialect of Mandarin than the standard. That's thrown at people like me so there's some people in their chop people so you can imagine the kind of differences that there are for example in Spanish and Italian and the gang. There's a word for all those longest have award for I as me myself and I. They're different so Spanish. You'll Italian Il Portuguese F. French. So you'll feel all of those mean I all of those start as the Latin word. Eggo and sound change happens now. Here are four dialects of Mandarin. Not Chinese languages but these are varieties of Mandarin Standard Mandarin for. I is well in young Joe Mandarin. It's all in CNN. Mandarin is no in Lingbao Mandarin. It's law so you go. Whoa oh all of those are as different as Yo. Yo L and and yet all of those are dialects of Mandarin. There are dialects of Mandarin where even to my untrained arrogant. I E right think to myself. That's not a dialect of Mandarin. That's its own. Language and many mandarin-speakers would agree so this China landmass linguistically is really just like Europe writing distorts. How we see language really. They're probably about three dozen Chinese languages. And that's a conservative estimate because so many of the mandarin dialects really languages of their own men is counted as one language. Men is clearly like six or seven different languages. Really about three dozen cynic each Chinese languages. They're just like the romance languages in their spread. So it's very interesting. A lot of the divergent varieties are only being really studied. Just now it's a fascinating area. One of the main things that makes the Chinese sound odd to us if we don't have experience with them is the tones and tones really are quite ordinary to them but to somebody who doesn't grow up with a tonal language it's always a miracle that human beings can develop things like this and so the classic example Ma. Well that's incomplete. The issue is what tone so ma. That's your mother. Ma Is your horse. Ma is scolding mop them supposed to say that. That's hemp. But I don't know what that is so say that it's rough set. It also means that not only Ma. It's not some syllables. I remember the first one of these. Other than mom that I paid attention to was be just the syllable B. B. is penn. Beat IS TO CLOSE. Something be is your nose. Your nose is kind of up in the air beep and then be that's force so B B B. Beat all of those mean completely. Different things so those syllables have more sound distinction in them. Then our syllables do in our languages. Because you've got to have that tone as well as what is the consonant. And what it's like. And what is the vow? And where do you place it? And of course you know. Beat doesn't only mean pen it also means then like I'm richer than you or beat doesn't only mean close. It also means arm so you really have a very different way of allocating linguistic material across meaning and Mandarin has the four tones and you think will goodness gracious but Cantonese has six. Some people say nine. That's pushing it that it has six tones. And so you hear anybody speaking Cantonese of your Chinese restaurant Chinese market. And it's just to me. I always think you're using six tones. And you're not tripping over your own feet so for example the syllable see just see God. I sound so English. See so that syllable well if you say see. That's a poem. If you say see that is to try if you say see. That is the verb to be if you say see then. You're saying history. If you say see it's city and if you say see then it means time Cantonese speakers. I tried so hard. You may scold me. You may mock me. But that's how Cantonese works and varieties that have even more tones than that. Mandarin is easy. In that way there's some mandarins that only have three tones. Go Away from Mandarin. And chances are you're dealing yet more tones so just imagine speaking language with tones and this next song is called. Imagine you know no no no transitions. I get my gingerbread cookies this week. I don't have to pretend so. Don't imagine speaking language with tones. This is a song by Hugh Martin called. Imagine this is from his under-consulted film. Athena I say under Consulta because this is an MGM musical about people who eat health food. It's really bizarre. This was kind of in the twilight of the era. And it's got a dandy little score including this song which was sung by victim to a very young Debbie Reynolds. This is imagine. Imagine your at Apple Apple said. Nah Top of a tree by came along just the riot. Awful Imagine your will we? We've been some rain from food and fireworks cloud with lots of rain. And I'm might imagine and they all that your show with Dab Bush. I door you imagine your. It doesn't have any grammar. I have heard people saying that. That's somebody I heard at Columbia. One's not gonNA hear anybody for the rest of the year but back when it was occupied by human beings. Then you would hear people say. I'm taking Chinese. That doesn't have any grammar. Will by that. And what a person means by that is. There's no oblong Oblong Oslo Blah Blah. Whatever okay it doesn't challenge you with that but goodness gracious Chinese does have grammar. It just has different kinds of grammar so for example in English speaker things have grammar is being what the technical term for it is goofball gender as in some bredow. That's a boy Luna. That's a girl but to in French. Well that's a boy aline. The Moon is a girl etc association. Well that's a girl wise in association female that kind of gender there too technical terms one is goofball the other one is grammatical grammatical gender. That's hard from English. English is the only Indo European language of Europe. That does not have that. We think that we're normal and that all those languages with their gender are annoying. It's the other way around weird by the way folks notice. I said Indo European language in Europe there are languages without goofball gender eastward of Europe that are into European but here in Europe that is nasty for us from English. Learn specially where you're dealing with three them. You've got masculine Feminine Neuter in German or in Russian. It's just a bit much so you figure well you know Chinese doesn't have endings of that kind. It's all that's just no grammar. No no and that's because of something like this. The word for three in Mandarin at some some k now child is hides hides it three children. You'd think that the way you'd say that would be son. That's three hides child son. Hides it no? There is no sawn heights. That's not how you say you have to say Sanga Hides Sung guides now. What's the go? We naturally think what means of or something like that. What's so hard about that so you don't say three child you say three of child it's just no crammer. Okay but how about this son means. Three dog is go Robert. I just wanted to do that so go. That's a dog so three dogs son go and you think well no because you have to stick that little oven so is it San goal. No a man speaker would giggle at you and kind of tickle your nose with a feather and tell you how cute you are. You can't say San Google you have to say some go. The is the little v-word that you use when it's dogs or a lot of animals. Not all of them but a lot of animals so good for your kids for your pet. What about this? They seem to be animals son. I don't think I need to tell you what that means. E that's fish. Eat Fish so three fish. You know it's not going to be sawn because you have to have a little thing in there but it's not Sanju because of fish is not that kind of animal for fish. You use something for long things longest things cheol so Santiago you. That's three of fish. You can put it that way but you have to have a different kind of depending on what things are like. If it's a tree son shoot no song cashew if have cook if you're talking about trees and this just goes on and on it's not just those four it's dozens if it's not then you don't use good how or could use a you want the tones okay. You don't use good cow cook. You have to use Bah and it's nice and so you. That's kind of long like a fish. Isn't it but no because the knife is something that you handle like an umbrella and yet just when you think you've got it there these little particular ones one for songs you have to say. Sunshine go three songs show in. Us WHAT WHY? And they just kinda smile at you. So what this means is that there's goofball gender in Chinese too because you have to which one of these little of to use your use them not only with numbers but also when you say this or that you've got to know them and if you just use all the time then what you sound like is some dimwit or somebody who is learning and doesn't know any better. You can't just use good with everything you have to learn all these little things. They're called classified fires which is kind of clumsy term for it but that means that these languages these Chinese languages they have gender to. It's just as bad as Sombrero and Luna and having to learn that you say Sombrero Rojo listen to my perfect Spanish accent Ohio and you have to have all but if it's a red moon whatever that would be then it's Luneta hot. You have to do all those things you have to attend to gender to in these languages. Has You have to know which one of these things everything takes. And then there's real regularity and so the jet that's for many animals but not all of them a different one. That's just for horses and you also say when you're talking about a suitcase or your eyes you never know. It's just the way it goes by the way you know while we're on the subject which were not. How do you get from a bundle of sticks to a gay man? Now if you don't know what I'm talking about the net sentence must be quite marvelous. But what is the pathway from a bundle of sticks to an epithet that you use for a gay man? It's a very interesting story. It seldom told properly. It has nothing to do with anybody. 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Here's something that you can't do that wonderful book Chinese which I hope you give presence where you know you've got these Chinese characters made to look like what they stand for and the idea is to make Chinese easier because the writing system won't seem so opaque the thing is it won't help you to memorize a whole bunch of characters if you have a yen to be able to read Chinese and there's a reason for it something that people don't tell you much about how the language works but it comes down to this. Really you have a very limited set of possible syllables in for example Mandarin. And that's because a syllable is only allowed to end with two things an an or an in so you can have one you can have long. But there's no such thing. Mandarin as watt. There's no such thing in Mandarin as wash you can't end the syllable with most continents and really what that means is that there are only about two hundred and forty possible combinations of consonants and vowels and how many hominids can you have and that means that. Chinese is based on little double words. It's based on what we call compounds in linguistics so for example movie. The word for movie is not some one character. That looks vaguely like a film or something like that. The way you say movie. Is You say Electric Shadow. And they don't mean that as a pretty metaphor you have to say. Electric Shadow Diene is one character. Ing is another character. And that's how you do movie Mandarin. That's actually a Portuguese were. That's not what they call Mandarin. They call it Putonghua Putonghua that means general connection. Talk which sounds kind of like the sex blaxploitation. Geno connection to postpone what that's what it is and so you have all those put together. It's a compound introduce that word that I introduced this episode with. Shell that means to jam between and then continue. G. is like to put it in put between show is to continue and that shows you a lot of the compounds are hard in that they don't make any damn sense so you're introducing people how is introducing people a matter of jamming something in keeping ongoing. That'd be a very interesting way of bringing people together. Why it's between continue. I'm sure there's a story one doesn't have time to figure it out. You just have to know that you have this double word shout and that's how you do introduce or my favorite of those is the word for thing the word for thing is don't she don't she don't is east she is. West and east. West is a thing I've heard so many stories about this. There was a Tibetan guy at a convenience store near where I used to live with this whole colorful tailed. It sounded like something that you would set to Disney animation. I don't know which one is true but you just have to know so the word for things. Not just some one character. It's the character for east and the character for West. Don't T- so all about the compounds in this language and so it's another challenge in the compound sometimes make sense like electric shadow but very often. Don't make any damn sense at all like eastwest as thing so not just the words alone but the way. The words are put together also challenges. You because it's at the very center of how Chinese has a vocabulary and it all makes you wonder. Sometimes where did this start this language? Where you know. The consonants aren't really allowed to come at the end of syllables much. And you've got all these tones. What is the origin story of something like this? You know it's not going to be a language that arises in Ukraine and spreads throughout Europe and down to India. This is clearly a different story and what we know is that Chinese languages are part of a family called Sino Tibetan so cheated like Semitic. I brought that on and kind of implied that it was a family really Semitic is a sub family of a family called Afro Asiatic Semitic is one of six kittens. Chinese languages synthetic as we call. It is one of two kittens because Sino-tibetan is Sino. That's the Chinese and then Tibetan. Is this whole bunch of other languages that includes Tibetan and Burmese and many others. That almost no one has ever heard of outside of the areas themselves and linguists and anthropologists so proto Sino Tibetan. We know that it all traces back there and essentially what we're dealing with. Is it short? Syllables started as longer ones. And so God be with. You becomes God by an them by so we say now pie and that came from God be with you or we say something like darn that started as a tunnel damnation eternal damnation in that became darn with exactly that tone of voice. So that's a general linguistic principle but that is very much the case with Sino-tibetan and actually an expert on Sino-tibetan this is Robert Sheaffer. Put this so beautifully that I'm just going to quote him. I'm going to give him. I never met him. I'm going to give him just a voice that I would like him to have a high powered. Racing car is driven at terrific speed into a cement wall. The results on the car will somewhat parallel those on. Poly celebic. Sino-tibetan words. The front part will be greatly compressed parts will have dropped out and there will be considerable distortion but the body will remain fairly intact. That's just perfect. That's the issue and so you can take all of the Chinese languages and all those to Bet Burmese other languages and you can trace backwards by seeing what they have in common and looking at the older versions of some of these languages where they were written down and you can figure out for example there was one some big grandfather language spoken probably somewhere in southern China where the word for eight was roughly Bara Yacht Bara yet just like that but then in Mandarin today the word for eight is just Bob so from Barra got to just BOP. How does that happen well? It's the car crash where something get shorter in old Chinese which is thousands of years ago. It wasn't bought. The word was praet praet. Now you can get from Bauer get to praet but just eliminating some of the stuff from the Middle Farragut part. Pray pray pray so. That's old Chinese and middle Chinese. It's pet and now today in modern Mandarin. It's Bob these things happen but it means that something starts long God be with you and then becomes really small such as make a wish in nineteen fifty one. Sorry no transitions today. Nineteen fifty one was a very minor musical. That does not need to be revisited in any way except to enjoy the dandy cast album which sounds like songs written for children. It's very ginger Brady again. This is. I'll never make a Frenchman out of you. Never mind what the plot of this was. But this is Helen. Gallagher singing in her heyday Helen. Gallagher is still alive. We are listening to somebody sing. Who is probably pouring herself a cup of tea right now. Somewhere in New York this is. I'll never make a Frenchman out of you from Hugh Martin's make a wish in one thousand nine hundred eighty one apple starts selling your worry about my mom. He just relax panels dirty cracks and then be paying a Frenchman. Out of rolling. Stop to San but things is most of them. Make You Flinch. Perfect sense in any case. It's a funny thing about old Chinese Chinese survives in writing. It's you know we're talking about roughly third to the fifth century. B C that you get real old Chinese. That's worth reading but it's funny. It's such a telegraphic language that there's a question as to whether anybody actually spoke it the way it's written down you know some languages dot there is and cross their ts more than others. But all Chinese if you ask me and opinions differ on this but I'm not giving a completely renegade opinion if you ask me. This is not how anybody talked the. It. It's a kind of code. So for example. There's one passage in old Chinese of this stage. Where what it's saying is it's about somebody named Hook. The person's name is her. And it says it's not that her is capable of causing harm but that he lacks savoir-faire. That's what the passage is saying. But if you go word for word in the old Chinese it's he not able harm and knowledge not sufficient and and that's it so it's not the hers capable of causing harm but that he lacks savoir-faire he not able harm and knowledge not sufficient. And and it's it's so for example. There's a passage about children and certain dietary habits so when the day is done they always return home for food. Because while dust visuals and mud stu can be played with. They cannot be eaten. Okay in whole Chinese. The way it goes is arrive son. Late Moscow home food ones. Dust food mud. Stu can play with but not can eat em. That's all and what this shows you. It's funny reading old Chinese. I like the implication that I sit in a chair sipping Bourbon Riedel Chinese on purpose but reading all Chinese is interesting because you know nobody talked like that. It's just that they don't indicate they didn't see it as necessary to indicate on the page a lot of what we now know where certain prefixes suffixes they were almost definitely using. The language was richer than dust. Food Mud's do can play with but not any eat Nobody talks like that. But you never know. There's so much that we don't actually write out where we just think of something that you wouldn't put on the page where people in the future might think that we are quite insane. So for example. I'll say something like you know we could try this just us. You know you know we could try this K- you know now. Here is a clip of Ray saying those same. Two words on the Marvelous Archer listened to him. Saying you know. We've trained for this Cyril. On God's we need cover on it. Krieger spool up. Hyperspace drive spooling Cheryl get to your fighter Bray. You're still useless. So this is that you know. Lana says it a lot on the show too. You know and that you know means. I'm getting really tired of being abused this way. I'm really thinking about just pulling away from all of this completely. So there's my you know you know then there's no now then last week remember. Radio Comedian Ed. Wynn and his you know market you. Please play again where he's making the little joke about chickens philly. I barely do thing high up you know. And she brought tonight on the head of a of a sundress yet at the head up. Let's go to the second day of plenty the chicken neck. I love that of you. Don't want to get in trouble. You better lay off so you know has a completely different connotation than here is the honeymooners. Here's Ralph Kramden yelling at Alice. You know that I know well. That's a different you know. Listen to this excuse. Europe rate coming in excuse a hyun on and I know you don't know what goes on here all day fooling around so noticed that intonation is everything there's my you know there's raise you know the. Who Wins you know? And there's Ralph Kramden to you know all of them are completely different and has nothing to do with the tones of all of those voices. Why don't we write that sort of thing we could but it's a matter of where you draw the line and we draw on one side of all of these things linguists call for example pragmatics by the way that line thing where you draw the line. That is the way you can get into any conversation. I guarantee you if you are watching people talk about something and you don't quite know where to jump in. You can't quite do like black girls jumping in when they double Dutch jump rope. You can't quite you don't know where to get in the way that you get into any conversation whether you know anything about it or not. Is that when there's a lull? You say well it just depends on where you draw the line. Somebody will always turn around and say well yes of course and then either you keep going or you. Let them keep going. Because you don't really know anything about it but then you're in the conversation and you look like you know what you're talking about. That is your advice for this week since we're talking about old Chinese this final musical clip is from the nineteen forty eight Hugh Martin musical. Look Ma I'm dancing and this is one of the early songs in it. It's called God dance. Not The one that you're familiar with from singing in the rain but a different one and this. Harold Lang singing. My Mother didn't Razor Board Dancer. That was not her father. Hoped I'd be engineer up in Ansi ads. What he was wishing. So I'm afraid that they could never love me with my arms above me and the physician but I'm a guy who's got a dance. They'll know exactly. It's me that's bad. Isn't that a great verse? Just that verse part might play that again. Just just the first and then keep it going the craft of just the beginning of. It's not really about anything important. I just love the way he gets the words and the tune together so nicely Razor Dancer. That was not her mission. Be Engineer up in and see that what he was wishing so. I'm afraid that they good. Nah Ella me with my arms above me and the physician guy who's got a dance don't know exactly it and I'm I'm anyway. You can reach us. Let'S VALLEY AT SLATE DOT com. That's Lexicon Valley at slate. Dot Com to listen to pass shows subscriber just to reach out go to slate. Dot Com Slash Lexicon Valley. By the way Hugh Martin had a minor hit in London. It was called love from Judy. If you WANNA big up stuff from that I recommend a song called a touch of. It's about sex. Might Volvo is as always the editor and I am John Dance At one knows me knows who God his case.

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#89 Kim & Penn Holderness

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#89 Kim & Penn Holderness

"The allies. Welcome to first-class fatherhood. Welcome everybody episode eighty nine of the podcast happy as always to be here. Where you thank you for stopping by. If this is your first time listening to the podcast, please get over there and hit that subscribe button. You do not wanna miss all the action. It's coming your way right here on first-class. Fatherhood, okay, dads. I have a couple of awesome guests lined up for you today on the podcast. That's right. I said guests with floral because for the third time on first-class fatherhood. I'll be joined here not only by first-class father. But a first class mother as well. And I am very proud to have pen and Kim Holderness with me today. The Holderness family are well known all over the world there. Youtube parodies have been seen by millions of people on YouTube. They are hysterical. And if you have kids out there who are Spiring to become YouTubers as I do. Then you do not wanna miss my interview today with Kim and Penn Holderness coming right up in just a few minutes here. Looking ahead to next week. I will be joined here by some really awesome first-class fathers. Bestselling author of a warriors faith. Robert VERA will be here with me former security and law enforcement officer for more than twenty eight years James Demeo, who's got a new book out will also be joining me here and former navy seal and very famous canine trainer. Mike written who hosts a podcast called mic drop will be here with me as well. So come on dad's lock it into first-class fatherhood. Thank you so much to everybody who was listening out there supporting and encouraging me I really love being dad, and I am so honored to be in a position here to speak about fatherhood with so many, amazing dads, and I really, oh that's all of you listeners out there as I am recording. This first class fatherhood is ranked number three on I tunes in the kids and family section. 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I launched hit me on the hip and troll of being in the tip jar by visiting anchor dot FM back slash Alec. Dash lease where you could become a monthly supporter for as low as one dollar a month. Remember guys, we are not babysitters. We are fathers, and we're not just fathers. We are first class father's hit top would've being today. Actor dot FM back slash Alec. Dash lease. Welcome back to first class. Fatherhood. Joining me now is a first class couple whose music parody videos on YouTube have been seen by millions of people around the world. They are very funny, and very talented is a great pleasure for me to say, Kim and penholder nece. Welcome to first class fatherhood. Hi, thanks for having us. All right. Let's get going here. How many kids do you have? And how old are they? We only have two we stopped after two. We start assured that we could stop after two, and they they are currently eleven in eight. All right. Very cool. What type of sports activities that I do? All the the question or the answer. My daughter actually, taken a tennis. But she went to traffic school basketball team, my sons, play soccer and tennis in any anything investable anything. He can also all he loves it. All he's eight and is obsessed. Okay. Do you guys? Get an opportunity to coach the kids or you guys chairman more from the sideline. I coach my daughter will one season in soccer at the age of three. And it was a disaster because she was hanging onto me anytime, I tried to talk to another child. She's Jan crying. And it's the door. I love her. But it was it was a tough coaching situation. And then I tried it with my son, and he could've cared less to I was talking to. He just wanted me to coach coach my son do that. I've been football soccer. I've done basketball and a little bit pet. Okay. You guys blew up on YouTube millions of people have senior videos. What was the Genesis of this whole thing, and how many videos did you guys post before one of them went viral and took off we started. So the first one that I think everybody saw with called Christmas. Jammies. And that came most of his, you know, we get all these adorable Christmas cards in the mail from people, and and our kids wouldn't sit. But for. Honestly. And so we had started video production company. I said why don't you just making video that was actually the second video we ever put out and we weren't doing it. So that millions of people were watching it. And we thought maybe it'd be anything for a family, you know, to watch. But we were we were shocked. It anybody when millions of people started watching it. I'll be honest. It was hilarious. My wife found the Christmas. Jammies. One on YouTube and shared it with me, and I loved it, especially being parents. We thought it was great. We love the idea. Tell me what type of affect has all of the attention and fame had on the kids as far as like, what has it had on them at school and amongst their friends. Question. We can tell you as much as we know. We don't go to school with him. But. It does seem that. The kid that they go to school with no them as Lola and pencils. Not as that you family. I think it affects them a lot more when we're in an airport or where Disney World or we are in a public at target. And you know, they've had to get used to kind of. Hey, we love you guys can take a picture. You're really funny. Here's our favorite video is all incredibly positive. I think that I it may have been a little bit discharging. But I I like to think that it's helpful in some ways our daughter who I think was a little more shy. And didn't really know how to do that initial and interacting with people. I think that is help for in that sense as far as school. I'm sure there are moments where they feel uncomfortable. And we're doing the best if we can to manage that. But for the most part it's been positive. We actually we did he's gonna check ins and we had one last night because there. A situation where my daughter she's eleven so she's getting some more freedom and she'll go she'll go to places with their friends. And I found out later that somebody walked up to her and said like can I take picture with you which again as an adult until like flattered and surprised that people like at the net to want that. So it's still incredibly flattering. But as an eleven year old kind of unfair thing to put on her. And so she this picture this person. And I'm like how did that? How does that make you feel that somebody comes up, and she's like, you know, what the they were really nice. They're really nice. I'm like how about this? So you don't even have to think about it. How about you blame it on me and say, I can't take pictures with people unless Nick parents are here. And then you can just make me bad guy. I'm like, I don't know. I feel real comfortable with people taking pictures. Aren't there to kind of know in until she's old enough to kind of have a voice in that, you know, to be strong enough user and beliefs and say, no that makes me uncomfortable. But we ask them like how how's school? How's that? I think they're just it's fine. And again their school. It's just people are used to them. They know them as Lola and pen Charles out in the Kennedy. And again, everybody's so nice. And it's so flattering that people wouldn't even you know think too. I don't know like wanna know very long. Can you tell it we've touched on a current subjects? Yeah. Once or twice I bet, but it does make sense. Because even though we're in this whole, insta- Snapchat Facebook era, where everyone's always posting pictures. I get a lot of requests. Sometimes from parents of the kids that I coach that come to me and ask me. Hey, please. Don't share the pictures of my kids on social medias, and those are just regular parents who aren't being downloaded. Millions of times on YouTube. So I can just imagine how it could be uncomfortable. Yeah. It didn't make her in time. But it made me uncomfortable to my power. They gonna is it really somebody that has her. I think it was completely this is completely harmless. But we hadn't really thought about it. Which makes me feel like this like one more layer of parenting that I'm sailing at. But so we do have these check in and we do empower them if somebody comes up with we're at target or Nina pen brought up DisneyWorld DisneyWorld, it it seems like when we're all together. Maybe we get recognized. We tell our kids you don't have to be in the picture, and then I'll do it. But the kids don't they always they think they get a kick out of it. So they are. But that they know they have to wait well, along with all the flattery comes all the haters. So I'm kind of curious how do you guys handle the criticism, especially when it's directed at the kids and do the kids ever see or hear any of that criticism? They. Again, great question. They don't see it. They are not on social media. They don't have their own accounts. They could care less about our videos. My eight year old watches a lotta by dating videos and my daughter watches flying videos. So they aren't right now in the comments section, and I would think that like you said, you know, there there are people that liked the video break comets. But of course, it's human. I mean, there are people out there. Just did the same thing it mostly and I and not so much the kid. Kit, mostly no, or what is he goes back and forth. It's funny there. She's right. It's ninety nine percent directed toward the adult. I think haters trolls, whatever you wanna call him. They generally do have this one moral scruple. But no one feels good going after an eight year old. Yeah. But generally that thinks that again, my daughter she complained she's the last person six grade that doesn't have a phone, and so sheltered isn't have ruined social media that we have conversations about it because it's gonna happen. And she's going to want to have an Instagram account. And we have already had the conversations that, you know, people say things anonymously that are hurtful they eight forty started that conversation that she realized she says, she does I mean emotionally can't be with for that people say things they feel safe things. Terrible things. Not right. But we have our own ratchet. Like how we react to it is more important than than anything. They can't. Let it ruin her day, by the way, I remind myself of that too. I mean when they say things about me, and like I have to work that kit personally. Yeah. Well, said and your reaction and response to it is really all you have control over and to be honest. You wouldn't be successful. I guess if you didn't have a few haters out there. So it's a good sign that you've made it. What about this uplifting? The kids since all the notoriety, and this thing really taking off has it made it any more difficult to discipline the children. That's a good question. I don't really know if it defected either positively or negatively because it's been part of their lives now for five years, and they've changed all my gosh. They seem so much. We started doing this. My son was three when when this first video came out. I I will say that need discipline. Our children like anybody else, and they get in trouble like anybody else. But that's a good question. I think it hasn't. They actually aren't in. A lot of our videos. They they are in some of them because they go to school, and they have practices and sport. They play a lot of sports, and we want them to play a lot of sports because because they want to keep them in shape. There's so many we loved it. They're a part of a team. So we actually don't have them in a ton of videos. So they they're normal kids, and they do stupid things. Sometimes we run a tight ship and depart of tearing that nobody really warned me about is that you have to practice consistent discipline, and you have to keep doing it, which is so annoying. It's way easier. Just let him have endless screen high all this stuff but to discipline to take away the, you know, the, ipad or reply. You know, all that stuff if they're not if they're not on their end of that, you know, they're not doing their chores. And do what we run a very tight ship. And we that being said, they know their breath boundaries, very well again eight and eleven I'm sure that's gonna change and they're gonna challenges, but they don't act out right now because I think they know their rule followers at this point. And that hasn't been when I mean, we have our issues, but their behavior isn't is it one of them right now. Yeah. I'll tell you something right now, I could probably get my kids up on the roof to clean the gutters out. If I promise him, ten minutes fortnight, and I mean, nothing took off. Yeah. But you have that like bargaining, and I do know that in a parenting book, they're going to say don't Brad your kids. So let me tell you if current if the currency is ten minutes of watching a gaming video. And that's that's I don't give you an allowance. I I offer like screen time, and I can get you to clear room. And take out the trash and feed the dog and sweep and all that stuff. Then you get you get paid and screen time. Then I'm totally down. I'm not calling it a bribe. I'm calling it currency. We call it into Goshi aiding. And that's what we're doing. Okay, right now. There are a ton of people that are trying to hit the YouTube jackpot. You guys have found success with it. So what type of advice could you offer to kids out there who want to be YouTube famous and for the parents of those kids? Okay. Good question. Kids you to do it. Go for it. If you want to, but but you need to be yourself. The kids are doing this because they're watching three or four twenty people that they are inspired by that they wanna be like, and then they push according the button, and they end up sounding exactly like those people that's incredibly transparent. I think when it comes to social media. So you've got gotta be your own person. The other advice. I would give the kids is even though you watch these gamers, and you watch these creators, and it looks like they're just extemporaneously pushing record. There is almost always some level of preparation, and some level of editing that goes with that so work on your storytelling and work on your writing and work on your preparation. So that it's not just you sharing a camera because once that record button starts it can be a little bit intimidating if you're not prepared. And I would also say be prepared to be consistent the people that have great success. And then be honest that we have I think we have more success on Facebook than you to because the our. Parents opposed to trial kid, boys. The kids have great potential to be successful. And you because there's a lot of kid watching you too. But to be truly successful at that you need to be consistent. You have to upload regularly and don't, but I'll just do it. Don't think it has to be professional the first time around the first this first video that might just be your mom, your friends watching it. So the doesn't have to take the pressure off yourself having to be amazing at this. I go back and look at our first videos, and I'm like, oh my gosh. So you know, we were so bad. You know, you have to find your voice like ten thing you have to be offensive yourself. And you do that overtime just practicing so hit record be prepared to be like underwhelmed by own performance. But know that every single time it gets easier and every single time it could be more authentic. Yeah. Awesome. That's great advice right there. And I will definitely be having my. Older kids listening on this episode. Another thing I'm kind of curious about is a song selection. How do you guys go about picking the songs that you're gonna parody? And do the kids have any input on that process added the whole thing work. Honestly, the situation is the first thing that we think about for the team we look around at our lives and something has happening. And I'll give you an example, use fortnight you were talking about how your kids use fortnight is bargaining, and we also experienced that not only in our family in our neighborhood, and with our friends and just saw this this craze and thought, okay. This is a good opportunity to write about it. And so what they know. It's going to be about four night. And what the theme is. Then we say, okay. What's it? Good sung. We can pair with us. And so we did that in for this haste, you know, fort night, good night. If you can find something close match, that's number one. And number two. We like it to be something generally speaking that. People are familiar with can either dance to or we'll kind of get stuck in their heads. And if you can check out all of those boxes if you can make the video fund if you can make it relatable. And if you can pair it up with the song where you find yourself singing no longer the regional Eric's. But the lyrics your song. Then you've got a shot at something. That's going to get you know, tens of millions of usefully. Okay. Very cool. What are you guys working on right now? What do you guys have coming up? What's next the hold and his family? We are. I'm actually in rehearsals for a live musical in. Carey that will not be on any type of social media, probably or television or or YouTube. But it's funny. We really plan that's far out. What our next video is going to be. We are we ever own podcasts. We love the podcast format. So we, you know, we just recorded an episode there. We do the are working on being a little more organized their videos, but we we try to put out to receive video a week. And yeah, ten said he's he's doing they starring roles in the rocky horror show, which is a local production. But a lot of people are down from New York for it like new and cool and weird and different. Yeah. And super. Yeah. Like a lot of different like little, I don't know. Like, you know, this in this medium in this format. It's kinda gotta take it one day to time. Right. Yeah. You bet I'm learning everyday with this process. And I never know who I'll be speaking with next, and I've really been so blessed so far and very thankful for how things are going right now to be honest with you our last thing, I will hit you guys with I always love to ask all the data on the podcast, I'm gonna framing a little bit differently here for you guys. What type of advice that you have for the new parents or for those about to be parents that are out there listening? If awesome it gets better every year hanging there, the kids never stopping cute. No, they stopping and something and they they never thought making smile. It gets. I look I loved our first year with the kid I've loved every subsequent year even more like because they become this person. And it's amazing. Yeah. I love the message, man. And I'm with the hundred percent, I I love being dad and one of the reasons I'm doing this podcast is just that. There's so much negativity when it comes to fatherhood and parent life people portrayed like it's something to avoid rather than embrace. I think that philosophy really needs to change especially amongst the younger people. And I love that you're doing this podcast. And as a dad, boy, I don't think that are celebrated enough because most we were just having this conversation. Most of the men, I know are good and the dabs I know are so involved there. They they're coasting the teams and there's moms that coached the team to let me take that away. But they're doing just as much as with the kids that the moms are and. There. There are not a lot of voices really celebrating fatherhood. So I love that you're doing typecast. And and you know, and celebrating this because that's awesome. Thank you. Yeah. I agree. One of the things. I always try to stress on the podcast is that we're not babysitters where fathers too many times people. See a dad out there alone with his kids, and they give that reactively. Oh, you got the kids today. Good for you. Let me Pat you on the back here. And that's the way dads are kinda portrayed on TV. And in the media and movies, and it doesn't really match up with most of the dads that I know and the world has definitely moved on from viewing women is that sort of Alice kramden character who just stays at home. And that's it. But we still look at Dan's like that Ralph kramden guy who can't seem to navigate his way through a diaper change. Yeah. Then there's no more to the moon Alice, and none of that stuff. And I think, you know, your point like any job like any hobby any passion, anything with bother hood. If you you get out what you put into it. So if you are present. And if you are that dad who does the. Vestige. He can no matter what that situation is to be there for your child. You're gonna get so much out of it. It's going to be the return of investment is dagger in. It's put a lot in well said and the prize is delicious. And we were blessed to have our little Princess on the fourth try, and if we didn't get her then we'd probably have five kids by now. No. I think it's I yeah. I are in our kids. And I'm sure your kids are as well. Our kids are obsessed with their dad, and I think he I mean he provides discipline in you know, he he does all he he kicked boxes that he he loves being adad so much, and you can tell when they just they're obsessed with and I love it said, the cool thing to be I agree. Fatherhood rocks. Family values rule, and I'd like to say to the hold on his family. Thank you guys so much for giving me a few minutes of your time right here on first-class fatherhood. Okay. Absolutely. Thank you so much. All right. I will be right back after a quick spot. Empowered fathers in action is a nonprofit organization focused on reducing bullying incidents and decreasing the rates of teenage suicide and school shootings across the world. They serve communities around the globe to create happier, healthier homes and enlist the help of influential individuals and socially responsible corporations. Find out more about them and how you can get involved with this powerful movement in powered fathers in action. Visit them today at e f a movement dot org. Back to wrap things up here on first-class fatherhood. I got to give a special. Thank you once again to Kim and penholder nece for giving me a few minutes of their time here that was pretty cool. Please hit me up on Twitter dropped me a DM on Instagram. Let me know your door about today's episode. I always love to hear your feedback. I hope everybody out there has a wonderful weekend. And you bring it right back here to I last fatherhood next week as I have some very entertaining guests to bring you I will have Robert VERA, James Demeo and Mike Ritalin joining me here on the podcast, so come on guys. Fatherhood rocks. Family values rule, and I hope you guys enjoy your families out there this weekend. And I will be right back here on Monday. That's all I got for you guys today. I'm Alec lace. You've been listening to first class fatherhood. And please remember guys. We are not babysitters. We are fathers, and we're not just fathers. 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Jim Morrison Episode 7: The Anti-Jim Morrison Movement Gains Steam, The Rock Star Life in Mexico City, and an Airplane Ride that Leads to Arrest

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Jim Morrison Episode 7: The Anti-Jim Morrison Movement Gains Steam, The Rock Star Life in Mexico City, and an Airplane Ride that Leads to Arrest

"The twenty seven club is the production of iheartradio in double Elvis, media. Jim Morrison died at the age of twenty seven. And he lived the life of celebrity that skirted surprisingly close to irrelevance. I can give you twenty seven reasons why that statement is true. Three would be the number of bandmates who held down. The fort kept the rhythm going kept the music engaging all while they're frontman made unpredictable, sometimes polarizing moves. Another three would be the number of weeks it would take after the Miami concert disaster for tens of thousands of teenagers to organize a public rally to protest Jim Morrison of the doors, and all the indecent things that they stood for twelve more would be the number of shows by the doors that would be cancelled in March of nineteen sixty nine alone. The cancellations rolled on April and their spring tour wouldn't last more than one show. Another four would be the number of times each month. The rumor of his untimely death hit the wires, the papers of the phones. The doors manager got real good at playing a weekly game of Monday morning. Jim Morrison Deadpool. Three more would be the number of federal agents that gave Jim and his friend Tom Baker personal escort off a plane, and straight into a jail cell, and Phoenix into more would be how many years to the day that Jim Morrison had left to live after Brian. Jones of the rolling stones was found dead at the bottom of swimming pool. On this our seventh episode of season, two protests, death, rumors, jail cells and Jim Morrison lost in fantasy. I'm Jay Brennan. This twice a cop. Kids started arriving at the Orange Bowl in the morning, they came in pairs and they came in groups. They came Solo. They came on foot and they came and cars. Word had been passed around town. Kids talk to other kids. They got on the phone and spread the word just west of Little Havana. The Orange Bowl with the place to be that day. After an hour, or so, the steady trickle of bodies turned into a rush. Hundreds thousands tens of thousands teenagers adults. It was a mostly cloudy day, but at nearly eighty degrees complaints were few and far between. No one thought to complain about the weather Florida. They all had other complaints on their minds. They thought of the dreaded Florida Man. He had risen from the swamp, grown out his hair in just in psychedelics woke up this morning and got himself a beer. He stumbled away from his homeland vowed to never return the residents of Florida breed the collective sigh of relief. Maybe Florida men would go bother someone else for a while. Be someone else's problem. He stumbled drunkenly across the country when out west, and then turned around and took game, he mocked all called him backwards called them hasty to the safe distance Hollywood perch the Florida man calling them hayseeds. And then he returned Florida man dragged his bloated bearded holier than thou body back to the place, forsaken the prodigal son back again. The Florida man the hot them all again. Make fools of them. Tear them down. Them. Manage to walk onto that stage of Miami, drunk and high on the authority granted himself, and he did with the Florida. Man Always did. He shocked scared. Them humiliated. Them told them they were all stupid. And then he ended his hands and left absolutely nothing to the audience's imagination. The Florida man was on the mind of every kid who walked into the Orange Bowl that morning Sunday morning, March twenty third nineteen sixty-nine. Hor Too long there were thirty thousand people gathered together. Throngs of teen sat the stands. They stood in clusters on the field. They weren't there for a Miami Dolphins game. They weren't there for a rock and roll show. They weren't there for eleven or a be in there to voice their disapproval of dirty Jim, Morrison, and show the world that Miami was acuity of wholesome, squeaky clean do-gooders a god fearing town. Thank you very much. That was well aligned with Judeo Christian morals and standards. If people thought the Miami welcomed that kind of filth with open arms, while then get another to come in buster. Flower children need not apply no long haired, snow, Weird Dressers counterculture freak flag flag-wavers go back to California that progressive nonsense. Certainly none of that obnoxious doors music, no Jim marrs either he was the Florida man. They would all rather soon forget. The thirty thousand strong. We're like thirty thousand clones of captain. James Dad the older guard. The way it used to be the way it was anti change anti-smut anti provocation, the eyes of they were teens who had yet to separate themselves from their parents generation from their values and antiquated belief system stunted Florida use. The, Rally for decency was about as far away as you could get from the human being or woodstock or any other mass gathering of American youth culture in the late sixties. And to drive that point home, the celebrity guests they managed to score. We're all similarly stuck in a different era in different ideological mindset. Their big get was Jackie gleason a bastion of. Madmen Era Masculinity and well into his fifties, in addition to playing Ralph Kramden and the honeymooners, and his then current role is hosted the Jackie gleason show. gleason was a prolific recording artists in his own right. Sincerely fifties he had been releasing a string of instrumental orchestrated mood music musical wallpaper. He called it SACRI- strings, weepy melodies albums was self evident titles like music for lovers only. In nineteen sixty nine alone, he'd release no less than five records, including Christmas album and a tribute to Irving Berlin. Greece and represented the older less weirder America. The one where men were men in Dame's was dame's appre. Elvis America no haired, no Weirdos no FREAKS, clean family values, shiny white teeth, wholesome humor. You know like sucking up a housewife to the kisser here. He looked out at the crowd, gathered inside the stadium and sent the conservative shot across the bow. I've kind of been. We'll snowball across. The perhaps the world. Leeson had musical immoral help from the lakes to the Dick pop trio letterman as well as Anita Bryant a former Miss Oklahoma. Bryant was a singer who had recently joined Bob Hope on this USO tour. She laid to serve as the public figurehead for save our children, the first organized political opposition to gay rights that would successfully lead an effort to Overturn Dade County Ordinance that banned discrimination based on sexual orientation, nineteen, sixty nine was her year well, peace seekers convened at Woodstock he'll Armstrong Walk the Moon and the Beatles released Abbey. Road Anita. Bryant became the spokesperson for the Florida Citrus Commission a crusader for fascist Hetero, normality and oranges. The rally insured that the doors controversy stayed in the news and serve to shame those that even get on board the decency. It even impressed Richard Nixon who wrote the rallies organizers on presidential letterhead to commend their effort in their conviction. After the rally, the newer starting new rulers that the very person the Rally for decency was targeting would no longer be able to give them another reason to hold another rally. The word on the street said Jim. Morrison had died while on vacation in Jamaica. something. That's a one person. Her someone else said it was drugs and someone else said he drowned. Whatever it was whatever happened to you, Mars, the people who had attended the rally, decency felt validated, felt like God was on their side. That's God punishing him. One of the decency train riders told another sort of thing she'd save someone's stub their toe after cursing. That's gone punishing you. If God was punishing Je Marson. So be it that was on Jim ours. The decency train riders weren't GonNa lose sleep over good riddance. Said Jim Morrison was dead, and it actually happened this time. It was inevitable, only a matter of time, and it finally happened the way he lived his life. It was a wonder that it had happened already. It was a miracle that he made it this far. Did you hear Jim Morrison was dead at twenty five years. Rumors of Jim's death were weekly occurrence at this point and the doors manager bill siddons came to expect to routine Monday morning. Scare Jim would ramp up the drinking and partying over the weekend in the more he drank, the more he partied in the more he partied. The more random strangers would enter exorbitant. The stories would write themselves. Jim Choked on his own vomit. Jim wrapped his car around. A telephone pole was killed on impact. Jim fell out of a window. Jim got into a scuffle on sunset boulevard in his face beat it. He didn't make. The most popular one was that Jim disappeared at some point over the weekend, and no one knew it was maybe he was in the desert again, maybe was a girl's apartment. Maybe he was on the beach and maybe went back to Florida. Maybe he crawled back into whatever primordial holy came from. This time was different. Billet of funny feeling about this. The doors press agent Leon, Barnard Jim's friend Allen Rony had both told bill about some recent premonitions they had of Jim's death. They each toll bill separately, which was odd told him about dreams. Dreams were route chimps death became a reality. They told him about these feelings. Feeling stuck deep in their gut could cheap loose. They didn't want to overreact to Cry Wolf, but if there was a time to freak now. Everyone felt that chill and their bonds chilled. They couldn't warm up. And at a time like this. When the whispers got louder and everyone got that funny feeling that they struggled to describe bill at a call in the Gonzo, Intel, he had. To On the one hand Jimbo always had a clear sense of where Jim Watts an idea of where you've been last night we had been with almost like the two shared a strange psychic connection. On the other hand reaching out the Jimbo men inviting him into your World Jimbo is the Kinda guest overstay his welcome before he would even walked door, he'd cracked open a frosty cold one. Take the seat. You just been sitting in hold court. Regale you with a swashbuckling tales chunking glory bill been witness to this one too many times. Time Jimbo hung out. Stephen, stills la matching for one of his legendary impromptu jam sessions back in sixty six Rick James. was there one of Neil Young's bandmates? The mynah birds in Jimbo remember Rick. James passing out on the floor of the Jim. Roope after all the joints have been massed around and smoked. The whole floor of the room was full of past people backed musicians, girlfriends random dudes from the neighborhood. Who just wanted to watch? Jimbo said he just sat there. Legs crossed posture straight, Doug, the sharp edge of a jagged wine bottle into his car. He had smashed it over the quick way to get to what was inside, and then sitting there crosslegged in a sea of Pasco people. He acted on the urge to slice this former Alabama. The blood drip down. The length of his arms was balled up fists where it hung dramatically fell drop drop by drop onto the floor. He said this cat. Rick James Woke Up, while he was in the middle of slicing himself free freaked out Jimbo freaking out super freak. Or there was a time he saw Satan walking along the canals in Venice, dark leather trench coat, dark sunglasses, eyebrows, no joke, a tail, protruding from the bottom of his Co. Goddamn, motherfucking tail. No joke at that wasn't seen. Then the sky was blue Jimbo Tolo or the time Jimbo found a bust of ouster Crowley in Hollywood flea market. He bought it with Jim Mind and brought it to the doors rehearsal space. He was convinced that the thing was imbued with an eva lessons in other worlds. Yes, perhaps put thereby Crowley himself. The bust featured Crowley's head atop top of what looked like a poorly spun pottery dog. It was eerie its design. When the band left out the rehearsal room, things go weird. Their faces would all go along their eyes dilate. They would play like they never played. Before fiery rifts wicked fills, killer grew in Jim would be full of confidence in his lungs full of air. He'd go on the tips of his toes. Extend His arms to the heavens, and it was the ideal version of Jim Morrison the Rock God but as they all played their best, their career bests honestly, and it was a shame that no one, but Jimbo is there witnesses they would feel the life being slowly sucked from them. They could feel the life leaving from their nostrils between their teeth out from their ear canals. There is who go black and one by one. They would lose their energy. Their knees would buckle. They were stop playing, but the windows keep on rattling. Something blew around the room. Even though the windows were all closed, something blew around the room, looking for way to get out. Jima was there. He saw it all happen. Jim made him hide. The Crowley busted in a closet stifled the bad juju until the time when it could be channelled, properly would reappear nineteen seventy on the back cover of thirteen, the band's first compilation. Bill new these jimbo stories, and he knew he probably hear them again, so he steeled himself and headed over to Jim. Apartment Kim Oden his phone bill, and so his phone had been disconnected. Bill had no way of getting in touch besides showing up on his doorstep. Even when Jimbo's phone was in service, the guy never answered it anyway. What was the use having a phone bill thought if you didn't answer it or pay? The bill was the point. When Jimbo answered bills knock on the door. He smiled. Bill rarely paid a visit to his apartment, and it made feel like one of the guys when some of the doors crew came out. Billy boy. Jimbo exclave bill could smell the beer on today's beer as well as yesterday's beer. Jimbo open the front door wide, and before bill could ask them about Jim's whereabouts. He saw there. He was Jim Jim sitting on a chair Jimbo's place. One leg crossed on top of the other open. Can of Bud and his hand resting casually on his knee. Woke up this morning. Got Myself a beer. Bill stood silent struck down. How the? Along Jim Bennett. Jimbo's place. Th- Really Jimmy L. when he saw standing in the doorway. Join US brother. Let's celebrate another Fucking Day in Paradise Jim as bureau is ready to toast. The future on certain in the end is always near and building know where to start to Jim No. The FBI was looking for him that there warrants out for his arrest that the doors career. He and everyone else knew it was effectively over. Jim. Put this to. You're dead. Jew Better get his shit together and bill was angry enough that he was going to be the one to grab Jim by the scruff of his neck, dragged kicking and screaming back to reality, and do not to be done no matter what Jim thought the matter how much he protested. Now's not the time for your fantasy, and so it was the Jim Morrison returned to the real world in April. Nineteen, sixty nine surrendered the FBI. The next day was released on five thousand dollars bill if America would. Perhaps Mexico one. We'll be right back after this were were were. The doors had barely stepped off the plane, and the hands were all over them hands everywhere. They reached grab Claude. The hands yearned for contact to touch the HEM of gyms garment to touch any four doors, but the touch June. The most when they succeeded the touch center ripple of electricity back to the bodies validation of contact, the frantic human contact may Jim `field knowing he extended his arm, touched, flesh to flesh, imagined a ceremony with oil and scripture hymns, pomp circumstance ritual. He was there. He would take their burdens their fears there since. The heavens stopped the rain till the stars fall from the sky. He'd take it all and carried up on stage jettison. The lobe inspired performance whatever was left over after the show. He drowning boobs. Jim in the band didn't notice crew, the customary shakedown and customs by a couple of important looking locals who never properly identified themselves in Lewis searching other gear. They stuck their hands out and quietly demanded money. Everyone wanted something. The hands near the doors kept coming. The ban walked towards their chauffeured limousines that had been provided for them. Hands reached out coaching pans out. This photos autograph on. flashbulbs snapped all around so many fans. The people were shouting Jim Morowski Four. Welcome Mexico. City was on my Guinea, welcomed abandoned, remembered receiving, and after months and getting the cold shoulder in America felt relief redemption. Mexico City reanimated the fantasy Mexico City. Put Miami Jamaica Rear View Mirror Adoration Chauffeur's assistance. Bodyguards armed guards at the gate at hotel bags of cocaine Rum Tequila Beers mushrooms unannounced visits backstage by teenage girls in politicians, sometimes both same time. In Mexico the doors were outsiders, celebrity, Shamans, longhaired and wild-eyed. They were magical mystical, not Americanos. Even the son of Mexico's President Gustavo Diaz Ordaz party, but the band backstage the forum. Flanked by bodyguards in his groupies, he waltzed into the dressing room. Flashy suit, dark sunglasses, toothy smile, a bottle of bubbly in one hand way go Chico's hanging from his other arm to love loved madly. Jim Thought the bottle was popped open, and then another bottle appeared in another and another and bags of white powder, the tables, and then the state approved backstage party really got started. The, form was a supper club that at about a thousand people there were more elaborate plans for the doors to a bullring benefits for the UN and the Red Cross a free concert in the park television shows. Behind the scenes Bill Simmons was trying to keep up with the changes trying to salvage what he could as their plans went to shed. The, free show in the park would be too dangerous. The ban would be surrounded by people in the cops couldn't guarantee a safe way out. And they didn't get all the signatures they needed for the bull rank. Grand plans faded away with Schroeck. At least they still have the form. On the outside wall. There was a huge murals. Chimps face measuring fifteen feet tall by fifteen feet wide it imagined is curly locks swirls van Gogh s guard larger than life. Jim stood in front of the mirror. Resemblance to the painting looking like a witness protection version so wishy beard dark sunglasses. The doors had been trying to play Mexico for a while, but the stars refused to align until now shows implant announced and then cancelled, and they didn't file. The right permits sitting Greece right bombs. The agreed upon deals changed at the last minute, because because they could, and the doors can play ball or the states. One of their planned appearances. The previous summer was canned when it was rumored that students were planning to overthrow the government in Iraq concert. That would draw thousands of kids esteem of wise. They came within an hour of full-blown revolution ten. Everyone was glad that the doors weren't in the middle of that mass. Was a big deal Mexico City. The doors are one of the first American rock bands to play facility Jim dot his chest and walked city streets near signed bodyguards trailing. Distance. He puffed out his chest and walk the walk of justify man and exonerated. Mexico gave him life sensation of new life flow through when in the summer of sixty nine, the doors finally began to play shows again time heals all wounds they say and concert promoters owners were starting to forgive or forget. Plus they weren't born yesterday. They knew that the combination of the doors on going controversy in the absence from stages in airways for months only increased the demand for the return. Everyone's to be a winner that they started booking shows again. Then Brian Jones founding member of the rolling stones. Found dead at the bottom of his swimming pool twenty seven years old. When you first heard about it. He immediately thought of the recent events. Jamaica, how death seem to lurk right around the corner in a darkened room. Brian's death shook Jim. It gave him pause. It was afraid the whole world would go dark again that you feel that. Wind squall kick up in his head that the lightning would flash outside his window and he'd be on the other side. Here. The lightning crack at a distance he was scared to turn his head in the direction of the sound, and the ground rumbled. It rumbled so hard sworn in. It's split open rent beneath his feet, but wouldn't look down. Close is tight to make it all. Go away the oncoming storm Brian. Prior to Brian Staff Gyms festive time with Mick Jagger. They relaxed Jimbo's room at the. Motel Nick, and the stones wanted to produce some big theatrical American rock shows here and he needed advice. Jim was the architect of the big theatrical American So they talked, and Jim asked about Brian Lake. Jim Bryant had drug and drink. Problems run INS with the law legal matters. Ryan seemed a kindred spirit champ like minded follower of the Zero Fox. Given School thought make confided to Jim. That may not be too long before Brian was no longer a rolling stone. She city talked you. They both pull each other back on track or else state aid and completely derailing another. Never did. Jim Regretted. He wrote a poem called Ode to l a while thinking Brian Jones deceased and passed out copies to the audience before shows in the summer sixty nine. All those ghosts he saw floating doom on an iron candle, let the thoughts of mortality work the way out of him and his art, and then he was back to being invincible, undeniable back in America Jim couldn't get out of his way despite being out on bail from the Miami. He just couldn't help himself. Lead work his way back into the FBI's handcuffs for too long. Only. Only? Tom Baker through a peanut at the stewardess. Herself. She was cute. He was joke. She didn't notice it I. Tom giggled Jim Morrison sitting next to him on the flight crew watch he whispered, toss another peanut from the airlines complimentary peanut bag, the hard working unsuspecting stewardess. She tried to make away way down the aisle with snacks drank. It being there right in the back of the head direct. What a Dick! This time she felt it. She turned around and shouted, disapproving glance top. She wasn't amused in the least post to had been making noise and disrupting staff and other passengers before the plane even got off the runway. Tom giggling control. We import at Jim. It was him off from a distance. Jackass. Jim gives the stewardess thousand yard stare from his windows. He stared at her Orange Corporation jacket and skirt. was shorter. Wanted leg. To consider this gin and tonic, and tried to imagine without the skirt on it all still with long distance lear. The stewardess shook her head and continue to work the I'll. Tom Baker was an actor. Not the English Tom Baker would start doctor who, but the American Tom Baker went from a role anywhere halls is a man to a series of relatively worthless B., movies, and Hollywood like Ghetto, freaks and candy stringers more importantly. Tom was one of Jim's go to drinking buddies in La and the trouble they would get into together approach Jimbo levels of madness. Jim and Tom. We're flying from L. A. to Phoenix to catch the first show of the rolling. Stones Nineteen Sixty nine US tower, their first American tour years in typical Jim and Tom. Fashion the do uh started drinking at the airport bar continued drinking well into the flay. They fed off of on another team would drink even more than usual around town and Tom will get the balls to be more cavalier and shocking around. Jim It was a toxic pairing Tom raised his hand in the air whistled in the stewardess direction. A hotlinks refill some time, and then Jim said. Greenville's legs over here, very. Tom Kept going my friend here is thirsty, and it gets real unruly when he's thirsty WANNA, come bring this back door. Man something to suck on to wet his lips. The stewardess purposely didn't turn around or respond. She had enough of their drunken pastoring and they'd just have to wait. The Tom wasn't waiting. He fished around in his glass for the last two, remaining excuse and plugged them with the ends of his fingers. He sent the ice cubes fly the throw a little harder than before since the stewardess admit away a little further away from their seats. One of the Ice Cubes hitter in the hand she was pouring a drink, and then the other one pot into the cup. She was pouring it into. She made a beeline for the front of the plane. They're two seconds later. She was back with pilot, and the pilot was both stern and frazzled, and tried to keep his voice at a reasonable volume. He told Jim and Tom cut the ship. He told there would be no more alcohol for them until they reached Phoenix, and he reminded them of the FAA directed from earlier in the decade that brought passengers from interfering with crew members. If they wanted to keep it up, they could face a maximum of ten grand and fines and ten years in prison and know who is not joking. The pilot went back to flying the plane. The stewardess went back to waiting passengers now. Tom was irritated. They weren't gonNA serve them anymore with the fuck. This fucking high school geometry class was a day of adult. He paid for a seat on this God Damn Planet well. Actually Jim had paid for, but that wasn't point wanted another goddamn drink. It was another stewardess that walked by their seats when Tom reached his hand. Jim's is on this girl skirt to and Tom must've been zeroing in on the same area. She was pushing her car by times. I'll see, and his hand went right for ass. He navigated under the skirt, grabbed. Her felt her leggings pennies bunch up his this. Come on help. A brother out taller, sounding the wounded animal, cry of a really should be movie actor Jim Hobbled like a Wolf Taunting of full moon. The Girls Street and stop times handle. The pilot was the pilot didn't want to be back. The pilot fully expected that the first time we talked to these jokes would be the last. He was mistaken. He told him that he didn't make emergency landings for assholes that they would land in Phoenix in about fifty minutes and when they did. Jim and Tom would allow everyone to board the plane they would hang time. They had earned themselves a personal escort off the aircraft. The drunk duo did as the pilot instructed, and then they sat there I'll seat window seat, the effervescent buzz of the booze, wearing off and headaches needling hand. And then their own personal escort stepped onto the plane. Fuck, federal agents Goddamn US marshals. Jim went all in him. 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Lexicon: Coronavirus: Isolation and Aspiration

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Lexicon: Coronavirus: Isolation and Aspiration

"From New York City this is Lexicon Valley podcast about language. I'm John mcwhirter. I'm in a closet and this week I would like to make an exception what I mean by that is that usually I like to maintain the little fiction that this show comes from an actual valley called Lexicon Valley where everything is always happy. And that's why. The show is not usually particularly topical but obviously there are certain things going on right now around the world that really. If I didn't address it in any way I wouldn't be doing my job. A lot of you have been asking and so I'm going to devote this episode to the covert Nineteen virus and its implications for language. What it can teach us about language. The truth is the topic is not as juicy as you might think. Nevertheless does deserve to be addressed. You know where I'm going to start with a street. Myth that's been going around people keep asking me about this and I figure this is as good a place as any to address it and this is the idea that and some of you have probably already seen this. That Japan has had less of a problem with the virus in the United States. Because of something about the language so we love things like this when things like this pan out it is absolutely delicious and in this case you can see a video that shows that Japanese consonants have less of a puff than their equivalents in English. And so we say. Japanese has something more like put that means to put it in technical terms. Japanese aspiration on consonance is weaker than in English. Now you might entertain the notion that that means that a Japanese person is less likely to transmit the virus because they're not puffing out as much vapor when they talk to another person now one must think about such things because one must always be open to the wonders of the world beyond the easy ones about food and sex and so one thinks about such things. But in this case when you think about it. It doesn't really quite pan out and so for example English and aspiration. Well we have it so and then Japanese. It's more like okay. But the thing is consonants of that kind. In for example many of the romance languages are even less aspirated. As in not so in French you say Bali not bodily. That's the American accent it. You don't have aspirations Spanish. It's the same way to have a good accent in those languages is to let go of that puffiness and yet we're all aware that for example. Spain has had certain problems with the virus despite the fact that they presumably aren't spitting on each other as much as people in the United States. Or you think about comparisons like Iran and Iraq so these are two countries. The covy problem has been more rampant in Iran than in Iraq. And yet you'd never know it from the languages and so for example. Arabic has all sorts of stuff. Going on that would make you spit. And that's including the Mesopotamia in dialect of Arabic that people speak casually in Iraq so for example you have these consonants that you can pronounce either in what we would think from English as a normal way or a way where you also take your tongue in the back and put it closer to the top of the mouth in which case it becomes a little speedier. So there's a difference between a two and a and a the for windy allies consonance as they're called so pushing out some air and this is the sort of thing you might think would be conducive to the virus if you're going to think about it that way or you've got these sounds that are made in the back of the throat these kind of throat clearing sounds. Arabic is famous for. Its these NEAT AGAIN. For NGO frigates. You've got the whole back there once again. If that's part of your regular speech stream well when you have this. Japanese and presumably there would be such a problem in Iraq whereas Persian is like butter in terms of it sounds compared to Arabic standard or MEDSPA tamen Arabic. Persian just happens to be one of those languages. It's got its puffs and his not as much as Arabic. It's buttery. Persian reminds me in terms of its sounds of some butterfly animated by Disney Circa nineteen forty seven that's Persian phonology and yet more of a covert problem then over in Iraq so when you do those sorts of comparisons around the world you can see. The issue was not the sound system now. That's not to say that these correlations of sound systems with things about the people or geography are never valid. And I have touched on this show on notions. Such as that tonal languages are maybe spoken. More where it's unjust. Maybe these sorts of things can pan out. This one though doesn't work but I hate to have to throw cold water on things like that without giving you something else and the truth is I don't do sounds on this show very much. It's partly because they don't always lend themselves to my kind of narrative firstly because I'm not a sound man. I'm not a phonology. And so frankly they don't inherently interest me as much as issues of word order et Cetera. But still it can teach you. Things are counterintuitive and so for example. Let me drag you into my phonological. Hit the sort of thing that occurs to me just randomly. Lets us. Well let me see just pulling a television show out of the air that I had never made reference to before. Let's try the lucy show with Lucille. Ball we are in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight at this point and the wonderful dependable Mary. Wickes is playing on Agatha. Now listen to Mary. Wickes saying these very ordinary lines here but when you left the smarmy you forgot the lunch prepared for you. I know I mean all right now this will keep your strength up through the day. There's an organic salad in there with sunflower sees and a freshly ground. Pollen Burger okay. Where was Mary wicks from? You can tell instantly. I'm going to play it one more time. Please love you left this morning. You forgot the lunch I prepared for you. I know how this will keep your strength up through the day. There's an organic salad in there was sunflowers and a freshly ground pollen. Berg's from the way she says morning organic you know right there that she almost certainly was raised in Saint Louis Missouri. And that's because one of the features of speech there more in the past than now but the past means that people who are of a certain age and beyond still have vibrantly is that or comes out as our and the big joke there is that you say forty instead of forty but it's ores in general and so good morning and something being organic and I'm saying it that way with no exaggeration whatsoever. Whenever Mary weeks does that it reminds me up. She was from Missouri. So phonology can tell you where. Somebody's from and you know you're not GONNA get people. Within a flock like Henry Higgins claims to be able to do and also in America. It's not always dependable as it can be in England but still you can know. We're Mary wickes and various actors are from based on listening to things like that. Or here's something else. Just really cool about sounds. Let's go to British Columbia and not Vancouver but somewhere else in it I must. I can't maybe a single other places British Columbia but if I hear it's a fascinating place it's got some of the coolest languages in the world and I refer to languages. I did not talk about on the last show. These are the salish languages very interesting ways of being a language one of them is Bella Kula or actually more indigenously new hulk. In this language there are many words their whole sentences that really don't have any vowels and this is perfectly normal so for example here is a native speaker of Bella Kula saying and he had a bunch berry plant. I don't know why anybody would say that. I don't know what a punch Berry is. But if you were gonNA say that and had a bunch Barry Plant here it is in Bella Kula. I kid you not listen. Here's the word for shape. Here's the word for bent those again shape and then the very different word bent. You want to know what the word for bunch barriers. I mean I didn't know what in English until encountering this sentence but Bunch Barry alone is this clocked. That's something that you eat or he already came. I'll say he already arrived. I watched last tango in Paris. Sorry you already arrived is this. Isn't that just the most amazing thing to Berber? Languages are like this to usually you trot them out to show this but also salish languages often. They're they're no vowels. In lots of words to the point that it can be difficult to figure out what a syllable is because everything is. There actually are language like that. So there's your sound system cool stuff. It's not going to be about people in Japan. Not Spitting on each other as much. It's GONNA be bunch. Berries and Mary wickes literati option. Book Club and the good thing about it is that it makes it easy to find interesting books for your kids. Literati people of actually let me try this out with my eight year old. And what happens is that you get five books. Good books and as you know kids who read books have better vocabularies and longer attention spans and this is the thing you only keep your favorites and you can send back the ones that you don't want for free. So yeah you have to pay for you only pay for the ones that your kids like and in addition you can even donate books that you already own. You know how they tend to stack up and Literati will match everyone that you send but then they also send a little personal note for your child. It's a wonderful package that they look forward to. I highly recommend it and I think you can tell that I actually mean that. So for a limited time literati dot com slash lexicon for twenty five percent off your first order. This is only for a limited time not forever. This is their best offer available anywhere to my knowledge to get it. You have to go to literati dot com slash lexicon for twenty five percent off your first two orders that is literati dot com slash lexicon. You'll be glad you did. Now something else that might be of interest is the histories of some of the words that were suddenly using more than we ever thought we would. And people have been asking meter right about this and comment about this and to be honest usually I kind of beg off because as you know I tend to avoid doing too much at Amal because linguistics is a great deal more than algae but some of the etymology of these words are actually very interesting and they teach us little lessons and one of those words is isolation. Seems like such an ordinary word. And I'm sitting here experiencing it sitting here talking to my bathrobe on the left and my rarely worn suit jackets on the right but I'm in here in isolation. Well where does that come from? Well it comes from. We don't need to go too far back where it comes from is Latin and Latin had a word in insular and what that meant was island. Okay now Latin had a lot of kids such as French. Spanish Italian Portuguese Romanian Catalan CETERA. Well one of the kids was Italian. So insular becomes es ease. There was a Broadway Conductor Salvatore Authority Delis. He conducted South Pacific so easily right. Well then there's that other kid French that weird kid. I better not say that the French already hate me for some things about French. Then there's that other kid French in French you have this metaphorical extension of island into being like an island. And so you're isolated and the word for that and French was is easily. Okay well. After the Norman Conquest English of course had this intimate relationship with France it took in this boatload of French words. Such that. If you're speaking English today you cannot avoid using a lot of words that originally began in French and easily was one of them for a long time and easily flavor was brought in later than a lot of the French words and I it was used frankly by people who were a little pretentious and so for example Henry Bolingbrook. Who was one of the the Jacobites? He's he's trying to get king. James restored back to the throne. Talk about pretension. Kings was the old pretender and so Henry Bowling broke. It's seventeen fifty one and at one point he writes. The ads appear to us very often. Original unprepared single and unrepresentative. If I may use such a word for want of a better in France and I would say easily so is that kind of were off. Boswell Boswell who did the life of Johnson? It's almost more interesting than Johnson himself. At one point in the same era he just writes. It's sort of thing he wrote. What's Boswell's voice? I'm not going to do in Britain. Okay here's a Boswell for us so this Hanoverian family is easily here. They have no friends. That's what feel like. That's how he would have thought Boswell put it that way. Well if there's this word he's allude people using that you know that s that gets entrenched people are going to English defy it. They're going to pull it in. It's like an Amoeba that eat some little piece of crud pretty soon you know. Somebody's GonNa Start saying isolated. That's just natural easily. Okay isolated. It feels natural and if somebody says isolated well then people are going to start feeling like there's this original isolate and that's where isolate came isolation is of course inevitable so it starts with people saying Oh. I feel so easily because I'm a modern man and pretty soon people saying isolated in Pretty Soon. There's isolation that's some American. That's the way `isolation went and of course of course there where people say around eighteen hundred who are complaining about this business of isolate because they thought it was an artificial. We're not a real word because at first I guess you could say it wasn't because it was new and because it hadn't existed in the language before but as I've always said deciding whether something is a real word is pretty much impossible after it gets to the point that everybody's using it but of course this Brit Person. The affected friendship and unnecessary isolated. It's not English and we trust never will be and so there you go. That's what he said but that didn't really end up having any effect on anything because of course it became a word. But something else is going to happen. You're going to have somebody saying that. It's not a real word then once it is a real word. Somebody's going to have to come along. And tell you that the way you say it is wrong and that really. It should be set in some other way that almost nobody actually says you know that sort of thing is going to happen. And so for example William Henry Pinkney Fife I mean it. That actually was somebody who wrote a great deal about how American English was supposed to be pronounced in the late nineteenth century. And you know I really recommend fifes books if you can find copies. It is fun to go through them. First of all smell them because they're four thousand years old and so they smell like monies. I mean like Egypt and Mommy's not your mother and also just this perfectly sane persons notions about how you're supposed to say things are absolutely exquisite compared to the way we think about these things today with isolate as far as William Henry. Pinkney fife was concerned we were supposed to say not isolate. But is you have to put announcing Italy Italy. It's a late okay. With him said okay if elite is permissible but is late. It's preferable and this is the sort of thing that he would come up with. In for example my favorite one of his books is my favorite just because of the title it's called eighteen thousand. It's often mispronounced eight thousand. Is it really true that there can be eighteen thousand words in a language that everybody's say wrong isn't it? Maybe just that. What he would prefer is wrong but unfortunately they were these eighteen thousand words in the book. He just has it. As easily know he prefers. But you can get away with Italy but not isolate for him. The other pronunciation and Italy is better and really just going through his books and getting a sense of how. A prescriptive person was hearing his language at that time. So for example you're not supposed to say gasp. You're supposed to say gossip and the book. Is that British waiting everybody to sound like London? He was just waiting for everybody to sound what to our ears. Today would just frankly fucked up and so gasp is gossip or produce. Can you imagine being new to English and having to learn that not only do you? Produce a sound but that produce refers to vegetables and fruits at the market viewer thought about how arbitrary that is but anyway so produce will no. I'm saying it wrong. Apparently I'm supposed to say produce. Why but that's just what he thought. And some of the things that he says are mispronunciations. Are things that nowadays. You don't hear at all so you have this little window into how some ordinary people said some things in the eighteen hundreds so apparently there were people who were walking around talking about each ing rather than itching. Oh goodness I've got an each instead of an inch. And he said well don't say that and maybe it work because nobody says today or do that maybe some of you know somebody who says it or said it but I never heard somebody say I've got an each but he didn't like the idea that anybody might have which presumes that he must have heard it or don't say instead say instead he of goes on about that at one point know instead who says instead. Apparently somebody did somebody dead. They had asked what that's pretty good. Somebody did WHO's dead but today instead is not quote unquote mispronounced. Instead by anybody. Who I've known it's really interesting what you can get from this person anyway. It's time for a musical cut. Let's have it be one about isolation but not one that's sad. Let's have it the something cute. This is one of the very first. Broadway cast albums. Were back in one forty three. This is a Connecticut Yankee. This is music by Richard Rodgers and the EXPI- Laurenz Heart. This is a rodgers and hart show we recorded with the original people with the original orchestra. This is a precious document and this is a song that never got done much. But it's called on a desert island with you. The singer Chester Stratton. You'll be able to tell that. He was hired mostly because he was a dancer. But this is on a desert island with you on one of the very first cast albums per se and this is chester stratton singing. What is actually one of my favorite rodgers and Hart songs about isolation but with sex doesn't island with the out in the middle of the sea. We'll say trauma wouldn't we be happy and again with mom many miles away in the morning? I we eat then. We will dress spare. We'll be caressing. Give it raise. We'll know next year the population. We'll be out here in the Um up. You know what else the virus is. GonNa leave and its wake something else. That people consider a mistake. It's going to leave a pet peeve behind and that is that we're often calling this thing corona. It's what I am generally calling it actually. But that's technically a mistake because there are many corona viruses of which one we're suffering through right now is just one technically. We're dealing with COVID. Nineteen which is one of many corona viruses. So you're not supposed to say corona you're not supposed to call it the corona virus really because that's too general we're talking about co vid nineteen. Well what's really going on here for one thing? Why PEOPLE SAYING CORONA INSTEAD OF CORONA VIRUS? Well this is one of those back shift things that is perfectly typical and it's a type and so for example the corona virus the corona virus and then corona absolutely inevitable and. It's happened very quickly here because we say it so much. It's like pizza never again. Will you hear anybody comparing? Covert the pizza but pizza starts as what was processed as a kind of Pie Pizza Pie. That's what it was referred to when it first became familiar to Americans. Then you got Pizza Pie then you got pizza. And so for example Pizza Pie even in the fifties people were still calling it pizza pie. This is from a commercial for one of the most disgusting products ever created by humankind. It's pizza sauce in a can and then you have some sort of cheese that comes with it so you don't have to go out for pizza you can just pour it out of the CAN. I don't quite understand how this works. But this was the commercial for it in the Mid Fifties and listen to Pizza. Pie Pizza the Salted Gray. And she's real best you ever. Is it real fast pizza nets? We'll pizza pie chefs touching base going out. I gotTA agree the Payson Mix Chef de la Hoya de Complete Pizza. Next speech frozen. Pizza even beats going out in minutes With the chefs touching. It you know about this commercial is do you notice that at the end the girl says the pizza makes it racist but you have to listen closely to not hear that it's for some reason it's racist pizza. Listen listen to this again going out. Well I gotTA agree that. Right Racist also same era you can listen to Alice. Kramden on the honeymooners. This episode is called. Catch a star and this is the one where. Ralph Kramden meets. Jackie gleason listen to Alice saying not pizza Pie but Pizza Pie. It was already happening. I read the magazine once. Women's Mr Belief and Love Pizza Pie though I went to work and made one of my extra special anchovy pizzas and I sent it over to and before long pizza. You Know Franklin D Roosevelt. Probably never had pizza. It's a relatively new thing in American life. He had Broccoli. He did not have pizza. Eleanor and we have pizza tonight. That probably not. Eleanor probably tried it but he died too early. That's why we're saying corona but why not covid nineteen and part of. It is because the word covid is ugly. Compared to corona and this is based on universal principles of how we process sounds corona is consonant vowel consonant vowel consonant vowel. Koro not an earn are not stops so koruna a lot of us for reasons. I never understood already. Enjoyed the beer and part of the appeal. The beer the reason they chose that name is partly because corona is a pretty name downside. Say That but even with the lime I would rather have an ip but corona also. Cova did not only ends in that continent and that tight but corona because it's an aesthetically appealing word. You'd rather have a corona purring in your lap than a Co vid. Karen feels more approachable. It gives you an illusion of control. It's a warmer word. So we're dealing with this corona thing and it sounds like we can actually handle it in some way we're dealing with this cova thing a would horns sticking out of its head. It's just that phone. Oh tactically as we put it corona is more appealing so of course people are going to call it corona instead of Covid nineteen. Sounds like something Walter. Winchell would say corona sounds like something that you could lick so what's happened very quickly. Is that this term corona virus that most of us didn't know until about ten minutes ago is narrowing. It has a narrower meaning in terms of how what I think is going to be most people using it on a daily basis and so technically it's a kind of virus of which there are many beyond covert nineteen but coronas going to refer to that thing that turned life upside down and sent podcasters into closets in early twenty twenty words narrow all the time they narrow probably more than they brought. And what do I mean by narrow well for example reduce reduce use to mean either getting bigger or getting smaller because reduce just meant to go back to an original state and so something was smaller than you would reduce something to its original tinus but you could also say that we reduced the army to its original ran status of forty thousand men. The idea was just that you lead something back to where it was before over time the word narrowed and it came to mean making something smaller. Could've gone the other way. But that's just what happened. Experiment used to mean experience. Experiment meant to have empirical experiences now. If one way that you're using this word to mean experiences to say that you're going to demonstrate something through experience show and experience and therefore prove it then after a while experiment might start to narrow to referring to pouring things into test tubes but originally the idea was that what we think of as an experiment with something that you were verifying through experience rather than just making up the way. A lot of the older philosophers tended to do things. Let us imagine the natural law. Well what about using experience? What about the platonic forms? Well what about them no? Let's have an experiment. I E an experience where we say that if you put salt on a slug then it becomes. What is a drink or something like that? So that is what experiment originally meant it narrowed so our sense of what experiment means would be confusing to somebody five hundred years ago. Words don't only narrow and broaden but they can just go in and out of fashion for no particular reason. Somebody used to say. Well that was when we were divorced. Now say that's when we got a divorce that kind of thing reducing used to refer to losing weight. It's something that now you here in old movies. I don't think I've ever heard a living person. Say it but on reducing. Let's do little Cole Porter. This is from a show of his called New Yorkers this is I'm getting myself ready for you. This one only gets around so much. It's never completely dead. But it's not one that Ella Fitzgerald it or anything like that. But it's cute because it's about what used to be called reducing the idea being that one might want to reduce in order to be attractive naked to one love or something like that anyway. This contemporary version is as in contemporary to nineteen thirty of getting myself. Ready for you and Turkey. Legs do be. I'm all getting Mazda. Freddie boy do to onion soup and getting ready for you Europe being worthy of you dear. In every way I'm building a busy and beside holiday right when you're seeing the soldiers if you still feel uneasy you all what I speaking of isolation and reduction the virus is hitting the media really hard and slates part of the media and so as you can imagine slates not having a very good time right. Now there's nothing dire going on but it's gotten to the point that it would really help slavery even more than it helped in the past if you subscribe to this thing called slate plus and what slate plus means is that after the show you get a little tag of extra information that you can't get anywhere else. And in addition you don't have to listen to ads and that's for a nominal fee but it's a fee that really helps us out in these tough times you go to slate dot com slash lexicon plus and you get a little more show if you want a little more lexicon value. Get IT BY UP FOR SLATE. 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Going to give you another etymology because it's another one that's really neat and teaches other stuff and that's virtual we're doing so many things virtually this zoom business at analogy of zoom is. Frankly not very interested in you can practically make it up. But virtual is a weird little word virtual starts with the Vir- the Vir and that's Latin for man. Well what's manly about you know looking at gallery in zoom and having strangely mediated conversations with people? Well where that comes from. Is These metaphorical changes that Utah along bit by bit and next thing you know you've got this brand new word that has nothing perceptible to do with where it began that is what is linguistic about demolishes and so for example virtual starts says veer starts as man and then. There's an idea that a man for better for worse it wasn't a woman it's a man has power so man does things and so there arose this meaning virtual. That meant not what we might mean today. By for example Vero but you have a word. Virtual that means that it exerts a power that it produces an effect so you read for example scientists talking about virtual heat and what they mean is he does something in what was beginning to be called at the time and experiment by virtual heat. They don't mean Meta heat or heat. That isn't quite itself. They mean that it produces and affect in life. You want a word that means that something is happening that an effect is going on. Despite the fact that it isn't real you want a word for an effect so to speak. Virtual moved into that so the idea was not only is something having an effect. But it's an effect that gives you an illusion of something behind it. That isn't actually there that idea of effect that we had virtual slid into that. And so that's where you got the idea of virtual meaning imagined and so bit by bit so virtual narrowed from Manley to having an effect to having a special effect and illusion. That makes it seem as if something is there actuality? That isn't and next thing you know. You've got zoom so virtual is a weird word in say the fifteen hundreds reading English and the fifteen hundred in the sixteen hundreds is a very treacherous thing because you can never be quite sure what words especially the French and Latin eight words mean at the time as opposed to now and so what somebody mean by experiment do they mean experience or do they mean test tubes what if somebody mean by reduced they mean make smaller debate just mean to lead back and often the word is tipping and so you have to decide what do they mean by sensible. Do they mean level-headed or do they mean relating to sense in the sense that we can sense? Kericho that we would say sensory. You have to be very careful with that sort of thing. That's why I say with many people throwing bricks and tomatoes and watermelons at me. When I do that. We have to be very careful with our Shakespeare because we understand all of the words but we often don't know that we're not readily processing. What Shakespeare meant it's interesting? But virtual is one of those words and all sorts of things go on so for example virtuous is now what we used to say moral and that's a whole other story but it used to be the virtual could mean that to virtual could mean moral entrance an entry. Think about that. Those are two words that technically mean the same thing but you know when to use one and when to use the other entrances perhaps more vigorous and tree is a little more abstract or awful. Used to mean what we refer to now as awesome. Why not? There's nothing negative about full and the word to happen to change and so with veer and virtual this is why when you're reading about something like virtue in Aristotle. It can be very confusing me if you're reading something like the ethics Nick Amok and ethics. You're sitting there reading him about virtue if you try to read it too fast. You're thinking virtue and you're thinking well somebody who waits until marriage or somebody who works with doctors. Without Borders or something but no. That's not what he means by virtue. What he means is something that we would more gracefully translate as excellent as in. You're doing the best that you can do at what you're the best at and that is your contribution to this thing called life. That is a very useful and wonderful thing to get from. Say a philosophy course where overall it can be hard to figure out how you're supposed to apply any of this to life but you have to know that. Virtue means excellence. Well why because when translations into English of Aristotle started being made well that notion of virtual as being about accomplishment about having an effect about doing things about manliness so to speak all of that was more current in the educated mind and so virtue was veer to Manley? And that's why it could mean excellence back then. So virtual today we think of zoom is a word with quite a history and it's a long way from referring to a human being with a penis in any case Aristoteles. Virtue were set to music for me. It would be this You know what that is. That's the theme song the TV show coach. And you know it's macy's evanescent but good writing. This is good arranging in particular. Like hey listen to the middle. The way all of instrumentation changes. That's very deft anyway. That for me. I sounds like virtue now. I want to eat some crow. This is really very important. Talked about this just business and not one but two shows I talk about it. Being one of my pet peeves well. It is a truism in linguistics that people who say they would never say something or say that they don't like something language so often turn out to be doing it themselves. You just see this all the time so we tell each other this all the time but I will openly admit that there is a little bit at least in me always thinks well. I of course would never actually use any of the things that I don't like in language because well I'm a linguist and so I'm more conscious at these things that Cetera not true not true at all you'd see Lyndon bomb thank you for pointing this out because you talk about philosophy and know that self well now. I know a little bit about myself other than that. I apparently say instead of were it is that I do this just thing to. I didn't know I wouldn't have known but here. I am in the episode on native American languages and listen to me say instead of not just an English. So what's interesting about it? Is that usually in languages as a tendency for E to MEAN CUTE. Tiny little unthreatening. That's just not in English so it's not just that we say teeny but then to barely I do it too and I want you all to know that I now know that I do it too and you know by the way on the topic of Native American you all love the language family shows. I'm noticing I get the feeling some of you wouldn't mind if every week I just did a different language family and I can't do that but you know I don't usually sell myself in this way but I think it would almost be silly if I didn't say if you want me just doing one language family after another and doing every language family in the world within reason I have done a course like that for the Great Courses Company and if I say so it's it's a pretty tasty little set where I take you through every language family. Anybody WanNa know anything about. I don't usually my own stuff on this show but it will be almost silly if I didn't say that language families of the world put together by me exist with the great courses people and you know if you're one of my listeners. Who could do without the show tunes well for some reason the teaching company? They don't let me play something by Rogers and Hammerstein after I talk about Estonian etc. So you get to have me just sticking to subject that's going to be the end of our show for this week and what. I'd like to play is steely Dan's pick. Because last night I made myself around seven o'clock Bourbon. Elderberry liquor cocktail and listen to Asia from beginning to end. I hadn't done that in a very long time. And of course peg is just delight. But you know I've played peg on this show before so you know I'm GonNa take another older pop song. That has some of the same feeling in that to get a little music on you. It uses the warm interval of the fourth and so it always gave me kind of a similar feeling to pick. This is arrested development not the arrested development of TV but arrested development. The pop group short live but wonderful while they flew back in the late eighties early nineties. And this is Mr Wendell. People used to stretch before dancing to this song. It was everywhere for about fifteen minutes. Mr Does and it's warm. It's before they never mind with that means you can reach us at Lexicon Valley at slate dot com. That's Lexicon Valley at slate. Dot Com to listen to pass shows and subscribe or reach out go to slate dot com slash lexicon valley probably a lot of coach discount by accident. You saw coach. I certainly did. I'm not quite sure why I guess it was on after something else I watch. I saw a lot of coach and I as you might guess not like football. That thing ran for nine seasons anyway might follow is as always the editor and I'm go ahead. This has freedom done.

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