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Starting 9 Episode 120 - Lots of Stuff

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Starting 9 Episode 120 - Lots of Stuff

"Welcome back to starting episode. One twenty is our grounds crew appreciation pod odd which we do many of these we appreciate the grounds crew for listening to starting nine and <hes> always what episode four twenty it's our way of showing our appreciation of the grounds crew. We will be answering in your questions <hes> usually i. I've gotten away from this. I've done this a lot in the past where i during the podcast complain about some part part of ball barstool sports. I got kicked out of the studio so now i'm in one of those like closet spaces. It's right near the bathroom and <hes> so basically because what's gonna happen for this entire. Recording is you'll have different. Barstool personalities walk by the glass window and just stare in and i have to just do my best to act act like they're not there and that's happened three times already. We've been recording for. Maybe two minutes if you're going to be a baseball guy corrobos i. I need you to start understanding that there's a lot of voyeur ship lot of voyeurism in your life. Okay you are in a fishbowl. People are paying thing to come and watch you perform the folks in that office. They just don't know how lucky they are. They don't know that there are lucky enough to get a free pass free general oh admission seating to watch the rocket blast off. They don't understand or appreciate that shit but what i need you to start. Understanding is how to put the puck blinders on all right. Let's go. This is a mound meeting right now. I need you to hunker down. Lick your lips right. Grab some rosin nut sack and let's go oh out guy ready for it. Bob people getting excited about the mike sirocco interview that we're dropping next week. We kinda hyped it up a lot in the last pot but rightfully so is fucking awesome a loved it so that's gonna be coming out on tuesdays episode of starting nine <hes> we worried about the mets coming back down to earth. Is that something that we have concern about. I believe that's why there's an actual <hes> there is a term. I'm not sure whose coin join displays but there is a term used win bands choose to bow out of season. I believe it's a canceling of the season is that you cancel the the season. I think it's oh. Is that what it is but when that happens when that gets applied like it's dot so there you don't you no longer reserve zurve room to be in the group that feels the coming back down to earth effect like europe has gone has been scorched. They have left or stratosphere atmosphere so i think you're in that camp. You'd already expected this. You expected this probably before the first pitch of the season which is why you were looking for that that date on the calendar to can't chiller konczal two ships used down <hes> but you kinda have to figure that at some point the the mets would not come crashing back down to earth and i don't think there were there yet. I don't think this is like a crash back down to earth yet <hes> putt. They're not on their. They're magical run anymore. I think the magic is is starting to win but yeah but how magical was that what what are we talking thirteen fourteen thirteen fifteen or whatever i mean that's that's out that's sexy. That's sexy like you just sit back and enjoy that kinda right. That's why streaks in baseball like in my opinion when you start venturing into when you start venturing into like ten game territory. That's a big deal because you need to think like you've just probably one where you have one three three series in a row. You've just swept three big league ball teams. You four-game set three-game set three games said three three game sets whatever whatever it is you come out the other side nine and no tengo. You're going holy. Fuck this okay. We're rolling right now. We are and that's so that's a fun right. You start to creep into fifteen. You know that's a whole that's a four series and that's a very very difficult thing to do. Just kind of put it in perspective the san francisco the giants <hes> up until recently one every single series in the second half that they'd played imagine having one every one of those games during those series what kind of magical run that looks like so look at what the giants did look at where it got them back into the n._f._l. Wildcard the conversation kind of the same thing for the mets as well <hes> so both runs kind of similar but the mets run magical comparatively speaking also i would. I would say that this is a great illustration of why it's so difficult to when you're like three or four back but you have eight teams to hop over like some. Some people don't understand why the odds work against you. In that regard the mets have lost twenty percent off their playoff odds in four days. They were owed. They've got they've got over. The fifty percent mark on saturday basically at fifty three and they're at thirty two percent entering rain today. That is a crash. I mean that's how that's how much each of these games matters when you have teams to get over. Is it a crash though jay or is that just that's just a new miracle representation of how difficult it is because of the log jam. I i hate to call it a crash because it's they haven't lost nine in a row. No lost eight in a row like that's a complete shade of who they just were for the past two weeks. I do think we're talking about the same thing though because like that's how small the margin for error is at that point. Where is your e a three game. Losing streak really is a crash. It's on an elimination of their odds. That's that would be the nine game streak. You're talking about but like even three games in the wrong direction really white out of it takes a huge chunk out yup for sure. No i would agree because the oakland a.'s are kind of in the opposite scenario of that where we don't have anybody nobody behind us that we're worried about and it's either you'll make your hey for the raise or the indians or the twins because if at eight the indians and win the division. It's the minnesota because i believe as we look right. Now are the twins. The twins are the division leader okay so the division leader <hes> yeah so. It's going to be the indians or the raise or the as this actually. I think there's another team in the mix. No no if i'm looking at no i don't think i don't think that's no because i think this team there. Because you feel like you've cut it off at like seven. You feel like if you're if you're around seven games or so in the wild card then you're probably probably in the conversation over that. I don't think it's realistic possibility potential nothing to pay attention to red sox odds to make postseason sit at six point six percent right now. You guys were telling their basic. They're basically the diamondbacks of the l. o. J. said that i mean i mean one of those. Teams has tell martavis so. I guess it's not totally a good comparison but by the way rafael devers is an absolute absolute superstar like the fact that like rafael devers doesn't get talked about in the same <hes> sentences. Some of the game's top players sickening to me sounds like it's up is happening right now because he is he belongs in that conversation here here yeah never heard of you ever heard of pinky higgins inst- not until yesterday <hes> it's been eighty one years since the last time a player has had a hidden eight straight plate appearances and a red sox uniform pinky higgins. You guys you guys should get a new hitting coach. It's been awhile jeez anyways. We're gonna play a little pepper here. Some shit news for the fills. Can i just say that. This pepper episode is basically like a and a railing against alice. Louis brayden shut up knock great sickly. All of his talking points wrapped up into one playing pepper so you darvish darvish is not any topic of conversation here. Jake arrieta is likely done for the remainder of the twenty nineteen season <hes> elbow surgery on the table here. It's i mean i feel like we've been. We've been headed down this path for for months now. Now it's kind of like. Can we push it off. Can we push it off. How long have we push it off for. Is it worth it to push it off. Do we need you to the point where we're going to have you pitch through pay not one hundred percent. Are you able to do that. Are you willing to do that. What are the what are the results. Look like when you attempt to do that a lot of questions to be answered. It seems like the answer. Sir is elbow surgery for jake arrieta. I guess let's look at it from this way i <hes> i think that kinda into puts a nail in the coffin of the phillies playoff chances not i mean their offense was kind of the key culprit. The pitching hasn't been nearly as good as it was last year with the starting pitching the robertson injury. I mean that's basically everyone that you went out to go. Get to improve the twenty nineteen team has been a non factor actor for the two thousand nine hundred nineteen like j._t. Real mutoko is the one guy where you can look out and be like all right yeah. That's that's one guy that we went out and gotten. Thank you for your contributions this this year everyone else has been a disappointment <hes> or just straight up injured. Which is you know falls into the disappointment category but there's been disappointments for guys that are physically capable of contributing contributing and they just have not so. I i guess your reactions to jake arrieta and be maybe we can revisit our conversation. Of who would you rather have between jake arrieta absolutely darvish i'd like to i'd like to revisit that conversation the station i think and <hes> but i i think we all on i think when we go there i think we should ask jay hit the answer to that question. I it'll be simple well. It's it's interesting that you say that because i i compared some numbers before the start of this podcast. You're just it just so happens that a one darvish is better so far this season in e._r._a. A fifth in strikeout-to-walk ratio and in wins above replacement so it's one of those has recently recently. Let's all let you slits rewind wind. Let's rewind answer the question that jared ask i would i still want and one of them is one of passed away and the other one is still pitching. Here's the i would absolutely still take jake arrieta now. You wouldn't absolutely you wanna know why. If you're a general manager interesting owners like eating with your team owners to just like to to justify spending north of one hundred million dollars you would not you're not pick jake arrieta. Here's why you darvish seems comes to have these invisible at times. We'll call them mental hurdles that seem to present very very very very tough situations for him to navigate through the mental hurdles. I want a guy who can go yeah. Hey you know what skip my elbows working at about fifty percent right now. I'll go get whatever i can for you. What do you need look if you're you're asking me to evaluate individuals based on their health and things like that. I don't have all of the health documents in front of me to make that kind of guess what i do you have in front of me. Is i guess a track record in history right so one guy's been cut on and had loose bodies removed another guy's been cut on and had t._j. In <hes> based on what he's feeling at the point in time right now in jake arrieta he feels like if this is something that does have to be surgically paid attention engine do he's already been down that road and he knows what that's gonna feel like so he's confident. This answer is so stinky. Okay it is it reeks you know what jay it reeks of a man who's just trying to sound smart in his argument to remain sounding ending smart in a in a debate that he was winning. He was winning for a little bit but when you're talking about six year deals and you wanna do victory laps after year ear one dallas you own a two way. Here's when you're when you're playing g._m. You're not just you're not taking a bow after one year when you're signing running players to six year contracts. It's just not something that happens. Dallas the the reason the dallas could claim victory in this has been the reason that he could always claim victory in this in that it was a shorter contract for jake arrieta sir by default. It carried less risk less financial weight right but if you're talking strictly about which pitcher you'd rather have now. You talked about mental hurdles. Jake arrieta hurdle is that his staff is garbage now. He doesn't miss any bats yeah and but but i guess we're just going to complete like like hold on what did he let me. Ask you know. Let me ask you. Why jay why why. Why do you think i mean. Is there anything out in the world right now. That could potentially lead to an answer to that question. Let's it's just say. I don't know maybe jake arrieta has calcified fucking bone spurs in his pitching arm that have reduced the effectiveness nisa of his shit. Well other men would find themselves on a fucking trading room table or potentially a surgeons floor. Jake aac area is taking the ball every fifth day so there's a difference between what is going to keep jake arrieta off of the mound and out of the game of baseball ball and what he feels he can navigate through so i'm going to take jake area this nut sack once again and put it on the table like he has long not in your mouth. That's coming later and that's that i always for me that is just so that as a cringe-worthy is worthy response. Oh shit isn't any good. Oh you know what i bet the fucking flailing tendons and i bet the bones jabbing into his ligaments may or may not have something to do with that. If you don't see any correlation by all means. Let's just call jake arrieta dead in the water right fucking now and let's just just get somebody else to pay the money so we can open up a roster spot because these fucking done are doing that as a g._m. Let me ask you that. Are you doing that as g._m. If i have jake gary under contract i am looking at him as a nearly unknown quantity moving forward yeah because he is he are as gone from one seven seven two three one zero two three three five three two three nine six two four six four that is a straight arrow north and i don't think there's really much reason given the under the reason season. He was as bad as he was. This year is absolutely in part because of his injury or maybe in large part because of his injury but that's also going to impact moving forward and there's a solid chance dance that what you have just identified over the course of two to three seasons are also something jake arrieta has been dealing with physically over the course of two to three seasons and you come to to this you come to this fork in the road multiple times in a year because things like this can reemerge or resurface. Those blues is bodies. They are what they are. They're loose. We don't know where they are. We don't know where they're going to end up. So at any point in time irritation inflammation can rear its ugly head. You can pitch through that albeit not one hundred percent and so jake arrieta at times for people have probably represented a better option at eighty percent the and maybe some of the other options they take away for that rotation yep exactly so jake arrieta while he might be viewed as somebody who is on the decline or rounding third. I always considered because i was one of those individuals who spent the majority of the time on the mound not feeling anywhere close to how he probably feels and he feels normal. We're talking about a guy who said who did what the fuck one seven buccaneer. I mean the guy's been oh seventy. R._n.'s second guys been fucking ridiculous when he's healthy but that's just not the case right now. That is what it is. The one final thing i want to say is that i do think it's fair to like like one of the reasons. The cubs did not want to give him a long term. Contract was because of concerns over his ability to hold up over the long term and that is coming from a club whose had their finger on the pulse of that individual for the majority of his career so when things like like those are all i don't wanna call them red flags but those are all those are all all windows of insight into the mindset of the franchise and that's what i would tell fans to take a look at is when you see organizations balking at locking up guys like this especially pitchers long-term who may have injury history you have to consider that they have been having the conversations with jake that nobody the l. tears which are hey man elbows really fucking barking today. I could maybe give you ninety. I don't know that's probably all i got today. Those kind of conversations happening happening for two straight months. Maybe three years in a row that the general public isn't aware of that's the key the cup just sitting there like fuck. We know we got to kind of handle him with kid gloves right now and he's saying i wish i didn't have to be treated like a little baby right now. I wish i could get out there and get after like i can but my fucking elbow just won't let me so again. I i know what you're saying. The numbers reflect that he's on a decline. I always like to say just remember that the guy's got loose calcified bone bone elements wandering around his elbow jabbing into his tendons ligaments at any given time from pitch to pitch. We don't get to just discredit that and and sweep that under the rug. That's a very real thing jerry. Do you have any news about the pittsburgh pirates rotation. Oh god this one socks before we move onto onto the pittsburgh pirates rotation <hes> do either of you think that we will see another season where jake arrieta posts a sub four e._r._a. Not over any real quantity of innings. It's not like we're going to set the set the over under it honored four hundred fifty. I didn't say a hundred yeah yeah <hes> it'd be in the n._f._l. <hes> it makes me wanna say it makes me want to say yes because he's healthy. This is a guy who takes care of himself. This guy whose body is in tremendous shape so if the arm is the thing that's ailing or failing him and he's able to get that right then i would yeah. I'm gonna say that jake arrieta posts a sub four e._r._a. One hundred thirty plus innings if he's healthy if he makes it back to the mt healthy yes no yes jameson tie on he's our guy he used goading being tommy john surgery which sucks he will miss the rest of this season hill miss all of next season just a really shitty situation so so <hes> we we brought in our pittsburgh pirates correspondent dallas braden to give us the latest on jameson tions dobie john surgery. You pretty much handled it. I mean i'm not the one operating on them. So he'll be down for this year. He'll be down for next year and i bet you i bet you that if you if given even the opportunity that you would put on like the white coat and go in there for his surgery and like suck his toes and do whatever else you need to get them back. You're the guy you're the toga. I am not the to- guy i am not the to- guys <hes> this stinks though right because like this is this is number two and an three six seven three five five fifth and four hundred and sixty six career innings so he's good when he pitches right. We know that and there's just been a lack of availability last year. Look like his breakout season. There was a lot of hype on coming into this year like he. This is in a row real ace level pitcher and we just haven't had a chance to see it and i think he gets a. I'm not trying to be funny about this. Pirates thing. It is a huge blow to the thereby ability next year to like. This is a huge huge deal. He's the most important pitcher by far yeah. It's it's i don't want to say it's not even close because you're just kind of dismissing everybody else that roseville. It isn't close because nobody else. I think we're past the point of hoping chris archer returns to being like a number one or number two. That's never happening again trouble. Joe grove are not those type of pictures. We all know that <hes> and i think we've seen what the pirates rotation. We've laughed about it a little bit but we've seen what they've done without tie on the second worst rotation e._r. in the n._f._l. This year behind only the team pitches at coors field and it would be the fifth worst rotation e._r._a. Pirates franchise history. I didn't realize it was that historically bad yeah. It's it's not it is it has been it has been abysmal speaking of abysmal e._r. As dallas matt harvey god. Do we have to yeah. No i think we do. I think very much something the thing that we should be paid for. We're not paying wars tro. What do you what do you do jared. What do you do when you're at the rest. Stop and you're getting ready to climb linebacker saddle. You give the oil eighteen wheeler once over and you kick the tires. You're just you're just double. Check jared. That's what you do so so. This is the oakland a.'s pulling up into the rest. Stop doing a little once over around the rick just kicking the tires and if nothing falls off if everything nothing seems to bounce back just right who knows this could be an a. to b. type scenario where this guy helps us get from a to be e. A. being the regular season be being the postseason. Should there be a need any point in time and matt harvey is able to get his shit together between now and the end of august which represents the end of the minor league season then maybe his phone rings if not you'll be asking matt harvey to take his act to mesa arizona so he can stay throwing shape and be ready to be called upon in a moment's notice. I don't know of matter i mean. What are you what do you what do you want. I'm just saying like one of my favorite things as a baseball fan. Low game that i liked like to play throughout the course of the season is who's going to end up on as it's my favorite thing that i like to do every year. It's just you never know you. You never know who's just going to randomly end up on the and when i see matt harvey signing as a minor league deal right yes yes. It's mightily deal with the oakland. A.'s unlike hey maybe maybe there's something that that <hes> that the old oakland is can squeeze out a matt harvey rb because i feel like i feel like going into this season. There was a little tiny bit of optimism because how dollars they stick. Look there because you're thinking all right like it was kind of like a homer bailey effect if you will slight light uptick in vivo. Maybe we surmise let's see automate just went seven shut yesterday so he's he's doing all right. <hes> so you're thinking who knows maybe maybe he's able to in a small condensed body of work and you know maybe we can bottle this light. He got to knox how you got. The two knots so so mad harmony was speaking speaking of what i was gonna say speaking of homer bailey. That was the angle i took on this one. The the highest yard as with a minimum of three hundred innings pitched since two thousand sixteen. The athletics must be working off this list homer bailey five nine one on yovany guy yard. Oh five eight zero harvey five six five so guy yard. Oh come on down well he. He just didn't answer the phone he just yeah he he showed up at the wrong speed pitch and the wrong stadium we did we did. We have him yeah. It's it it goes back to like like you. Ever you ever have that friend. Who's like you invite him to dinner like hey you wanna you wanna go eat and they're like oh yeah. Where are you going. Oh no. I don't know that's well. We got somebody else gordon. They're going to be paid. Oh yeah i'm all in. I'm not like initially. They're like no. I don't like the lighting the food's it's always cold you. Gotta wait forever. The fucking bathroom smells. I don't like the backs of the chairs. Why buddy's paying oh yeah and i love the yoki. It's bucket phenomenal. You had the house sauce. It's tremendous. You're completely threw the right now. I'm not kidding me. The backs of the chairs are stiff. It's a dimly lit soggy room. The angels is our pay for it. I in dessert menu. Can i see a dessert menu. Fuck yeah come on. That's all we need and i'm not calling pulling matt harvey and asshole. When i say this idiot asshole out there that wants to come log innings we will take you if you can get it done at any point in time did it. That's what that's what the rotation looked like. Last year was a bunch of people that guys will just like. How are you going to get here. Who's edwin jackson whose trevor kale you guys are actually bringing brett anderson back. You think mike fires is going gonna get outs for you. Yep yep yep yep and jackson thrown in detroit so the as have been able to deal with guys or have been able to go to battle with guys who seemingly would not even be able to be bathroom attendants apparently in other organizations initiations. I'm fucking pumped for the jamie moyer return late i would. I would come myself awesome. If i follow jamie moyer around our fantasy camp like the as mariners fantasy camp last offs. I followed him around everywhere and was asking him questions like i was going. That'd be able to take that information and like go pitch and be successful with it it was i felt like an astle but <hes> it was an awesome time for me. It'd be a great podcast gas by the way jamie moyer dude. We should reach out in a basement. We sat it was it was fucking awesome because we sat that didn't sit. We stood in the middle of the complex. While i was supposed to be coaching my team he was supposed to be coaching his team and like you know people people have paid money to come in and have coach them and instead jamie moyer and i are standing in the middle of the complex like out in front of god and everybody people around because 'cause they want his autograph and shit and we spent probably thirty five minutes talking about the pressure of the like using your backside died and not using your backside wind vacate the backside and <hes> how to maintain arm speed finger pressure fingertip manipulation on the baseball which way the laces can move for you went to throw your left on left change up to throw the left change in like i mean it was just it was a clinic. It was an absolute clinic. 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I i am. I know that jay in the past has said that. Gleyber torres is on a one way path to the hall of fame. You could make the case of a rafael devers. I mean these are two very good players. I'm going to stick with what i know. I think i know the gleyber torres. I don't know if you saw statistics pretoria's. He's hit half of his home runs against the baltimore orioles against everyone else's opie. S.'s is like in the mid seven hundred zero to sixty. I mean those games count. Those games count against the orioles fair. Let's let's denver's doing against those teams. I mean he's just hits everybody. I know but what's he doing against that team. Orioles nothing outstanding like that okay yeah so i i think <hes> taking numbers you take taken torres just for potential to play elsewhere are at some point later in his career. I mean we're we're. We're diverse profile defensively like i mean it's been excellent lint defensively at their base. Just think i'm thinking tour stronger up the middle. I don't think there is a wrong wrong. Answer here <hes> rafael devers in his age twenty two season. He's accumulated just over twelve hundred plate appearances and he has eight forty two o. p. S. gleyber torres his age twenty two season. He's accumulated nine hundred forty four plate appearances and has an eight forty four zero p. s. so there's lots of like about both these guys i'm going take torres but the one thing i will say is that the year rafael devers is currently putting would be the would be the best season to either of them have put up so far in their careers. Nobody nobody hits the ball harder and i also think while it might have taken him. A second. Last year was disappointing. I realize but rafael devers ever said every bit the hype big labor torres did as a prospect and so like the fact that it was a he didn't start hitting the second. He came up. I mean he's clearly adjusted with the recent signing of nathan pete rocket pay attention with the recent signing of nathan peterson by the as the gentleman who at ninety six on their fans speed contest. Would you rock it. Turn your back on the red sox and everything you've built. If the exact same thing happened to you tomorrow but the only team to offer you a contract with the yankees handke's <hes> yes yeah now i would. I mean money hungry bitch coach not about the money it's about the chance of fucking be a professional baseball player of course now do that <hes> i wouldn't. I'd probably i'd probably put a clause in my contract. I don't have to shave my beard. I wouldn't shave my beard for the yankees. I totally see being you halfway there. Yeah that's that's probably let's just admit amanda trade be like yeah. I'll sign with you but <hes> <hes> keeping the beards and then aside and trade the first ever executed sided trade at a speed pitch. Like what are they going to do if i if they signed find me and i just absolutely refuse to shave my beard they're not going to physically hold me down and shave it. They'll eventually just like all right guy. Whatever means let you in the building like you. Just won't be allowed to tell you okay. We'll today's your last day. Don't come back tomorrow. That's fine bill. You're missing out your loss. Here's a hypothetic- hypothetical for dallas now. Would you give up your perfect game for a world series ring. No other changes to your career same length same numbers. If no what would you you have to have happened or what would you change in your career to forfeit said perfect game. Give it away yesterday. You would give the perfect game for a world series. Absolutely wow what is it you strap this fucking thing on that's to be the best at the end of the day. If that is your ultimate goal then what the fuck are you doing here. If you're here for the personal accolades you're here for the wrong buchan reason the perfect game the four homers in a game. Whatever all that shit is those are personal achievements that you should be trying to do or execute every so if you're a pitcher and you're not trying to throw a fucking perfect game every time you take the ball. What the fuck are you doing in three hitter not trying to have the best offensive day every time you step in the box in what the bucker you do that. I respect the shit out of the answer. I didn't think it would be so definitive. I thought you would hem aw no not even close all right convenience continuing on if you could pick a if you can pick one batter to face one hitter one this guy miss wrote the question if you could pick one pitcher to face one hitter in their prime any era. Which match up would you like to say. I feel like mayb in their prime. I would like to see randy johnson versus babe ruth he would fucking on arrests that fraud that absolutely allows issue. It doesn't even make any sense that has no. I would sense that would be an embarrassing match up. He would be like who is this wizard. What dimension did he come from. I don't understand what i'm seeing here. He might not even quite like human with being from the one thousand nine hundred would look at any human being in the two thousands and go what the fuck is that oh my god. Do you mean to tell me there's human beings things like what do you think of a guy like aaron donald. Do you know who that is shared cross that is he plays football. He plays football for the rams. They live in l. a. and he plays on the front <hes> so the men who put their hand in the dirt. Those are called linemen. He's one of those guys he plays right in the very front. He is is three hundred fucking pounds. He's six five and he is faster than you faster than me. He's faster than anybody who's six foot two hundred twenty pounds two hundred and thirty pounds back in five or nineteen twenty whatever they would look at any normal fucking human being today and go. That's what we turn into later in life holy shit so we can't logically at any point in time compare eras like that as much as we often try to do. I think we've seen the gimme gimme the buck and unit and give me berry left on left power. Let's fuck and eat or maybe you give me a satchel page ted williams because the old satchel page stories are pretty fucking awesome to hear like any time. You got a guy turning around telling his entire deepens to just take it in. I i'll go in handle this. That's page josh gibson. Oh that'd be that'd be that'd be tasty seeing but but you're telling me you're telling me the josh gibson would have no shot so why don't go fuck. You shut shut it. I said talking height so so what makes josh gibson different than babe ruth. He doesn't see doesn't suck doc. You're a fucking moron. I'm going with shirt zor tony gwynn. Oh i like that. I mean just tony win win win that battle probably but i'd still like to see it handles that be low baby fucking handled smoltz's below just fine small tank shit favorite player that will not not get into the hall of fame or most likely will not this person's example market share as one of his favorite players but probably won't get in the hall of fame. My answers kenny lofton who's already fallen off the ballot and deserves far more of look he got. We've talked about that on this podcast but it will always be kenny. Lofton answer is will clark like not you know not a conversation piece but <hes> use fucking mine is probably scott rowland. Oh okay. I do wonder whether he gets internet. I mean that's going to be interesting. I don't think so but he should keeping. How much money would it take for. You guys to never be able to watch or listen to baseball again. What would i do. You could write shack right now for five hundred billion dollars and i would. I'd probably take it but then i would regret it later. I'd be like well. What's the point of. That's that's literally my identity. That's my existence and i guess being a five hundred billionaire would become my new identity <music>. But what would i do with that money. Like what would i do with my time. I would if i built like a big mansion. I would wanna make like a like a command center to watch baseball baseball fans. That's what i do. I would want to go want to travel wherever the red sox travel that travel wherever laugh i wanted i would become marlins man. I i just go to whatever fucking baseball game. I wanted to private jet but if i can't watch or listen to baseball than what's what's really voice your first move. When when you get breaded up is to buy a baseball team yeah. That's the move you make so no no. I'm good. I'm all good yeah. I think i would sell out for like five to ten million. You like other sports i do and if i could get balls deepen basketball that is what if i could secure my family's future i would probably sacrifice baseball but i respect my family. I love baseball. I thank you take care of your family so they'll be fine. That's true all right well. If i get that offer. I'm gonna come to you to see if you can take care of my family before i sell out taking care of family i can't okay. This is a guy that we haven't talked enough about so. I'm glad this question with senate. Clayton kershaw has a two seven seven e._r._a. That's lower the names like burland or coal and stroman but he isn't being talked about is one of the best pitchers in the game anymore. Do you feel he's reached the point where he's under appreciated. It'd yeah feel that clayton kershaw has been underappreciated for a while. Now that's true. He's he's. He's the trout effect. He's he's the trout effect on the mound dominating and no one noticed he's he's been hurt off and on for three or four seasons now and now he's healthy now now. He's back to being a very good version of themselves not the best version of himself but i think he's being under appreciated not be. I think a combination of you know he hasn't had a you completely healthy full dominant season in a while and now you mix in the fact that he if the playoffs started today where you put him number number two number three i mean he's not like review is getting the fucking ball in game one and you can make a case for bueller even though kershaw at this point maybe having a slightly lately better season than bueller but i don't know i think i think that that's a big part of it is the rotation that he's in the quality of the arms that he's being surrounded by plus just the lack of consistency over recent years. It's it's for the injury stuff. Are that's why i say it's under appreciate it because guys get hurt and often guys come back and aren't the same are not even close to being the same and when you you think about who we're talking about here if you're going to be injured and you're coming back and performing even remotely close to who you have been men and you are an elite level performer. Let me just remind you that clayton kershaw aside from his rookie year boys has has never put up an e._r._a. That starts with a three. It's insane but just just just remember that so that's the kind of guy that you are either you know taking for granted or that's going under appreciated and when you when you put it in perspective like that like hold on he's never like a like a three to your a a really a good year. No that's a down year clayton kershaw that wasn't a good year by clayton kershaw standards so factoring the injuries his ability to bounce back put those behind him and still perform at the elite level he is. I'm going to let the cat out of the bag. We'll be talking about clayton kershaw a little later in the podcast and for good reason then i'm going to defer if he's coming up later i'm not going to drop any little stat notes on what he's been up to ahmed rosario little at least shortstop question amid rosario or danny swanson for the next five to ten years he taken in rosario has been serviceable and i feel like we haven't seen the best of swanson yet and i feel like there's maybe may be ben- a plateau with resign area. Where maybe there's still potential for swanson to be like hey. I didn't think he was this type of player. <hes> <hes> so i'm gonna take dance be just based on potential and i think i'm probably in that same boat i had. I was really excited about danby swanson johnson and i think i can blame dave stewart for that <hes> talking to him about danby he he was really excited about him when he was the g._m. Their zona yeah are they. I'm going to go rosario. I don't feel super confident about it but he's got basically two extra years on danny swanson and since i'm not super enthusiastic about about either ones start to their career annotate the guy with time on his side. I don't know if that's the right answer but we'll go with rosario. You're allowed to recruit one movie baseball player to your team. Who do you pick <hes> movie. Baseball spoke. Oh easy fucking steve nebraska done and done jared doesn't know who that is. I just threw a no hitter against you jared and i'm winning coming because i'm not out because he dropped dick so yeah steve nebraska for the win jay looking him up right now because jay doesn't know who he is either. Look him up. I was actually looking up my answer because his the guy's name was escaping me yeah. We'll st nebraska's the only fuck an answer. You need well. I got another one for you. How about mother fucking clue haywood haywood baby from major league. Remember that yankees first baseman their enemy in the movie. I'm taking a big daddy clue. See i will jimmy fallon from fever pitch and now i'm taking. I'm taking corrective the david spade for bench warmers. I'm taking david ortiz from fever pitch. That's not a fictional baseball player. They said that is at a baseball from plucking serious giant deleted up what what for you not understand that question. He's i mean it's a loophole answer. Did you say the word fictional no he was. He found a loophole that little little rat senate. Take a fucking baseball player from a baseball movie. David ortiz baseball david ortiz gust can't uneven hold steve nebraska's jock in fucking suitcase which is fine and that was another session of what's on one more if the yankees by some fucking miracle win the world series but it would would it be worst starting pitching staff to do so. I did a victim broil. Starters arturs were worse than fifteen right yes. I believe they were i i don't i think the answer is definitely. No i didn't do it. Comprehensive good luck with the royals had guys like who who was it that it was it ho ho chamber that like factored into some of those abysmal starting numbers. I was actually good out of the bullpen granted. It's a different era but just by comparison sake this team. Starting rotation has a lower e._r._a. Than nineteen ninety-six yankees starting rotation so i don't think this is some historical outlier by the yankees it just so happens. It's not yeah. I mean if you look at the last time the league leader in <unk> rotation bullpen and offense went on to win the world series. The most recent recent example of those is offense winning. The world series terms of the number one team in a given year all right that was twitter questions. We did it if you've got health concerns. You owe it to yourself to see what c._b._d. Can do for you c._b._d. 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Distillery dot com c._b. Distillery dot com. It's time show some love. Jatta show some love. I was inspired the day after jay's wedding actually the after jay's wedding went to the mets game and <hes> sitting there with kevin clancy nasa said who's <hes> who's your favorite player on the mets right now now expecting him not to pick his boy lonzo. It was not paed- alonzo j d davis now j._d. Davis this is a guy that <hes> is you. Look at the big board in your pretty surprised at some of the numbers that you see up there. <hes> i personally did not expect expect them to be having as good of a season as he is currently having heading north of three hundred the floating around and nine hundred yes but it wasn't always that way on june second j._d. Davis was hitting two fifty with a seven forty. Oh yes very pedestrian. <hes> serviceable numbered is nothing to really write home about <hes> but in the fifty four games since since then j._d. Davis hitting three sixty seven. He's slugging six twelve. He's getting on base at four twenty eight clip. That's at ten forty p. S. eight homers ten doubles and twenty three runs driven in j._d. Davis i'm showing some love to you this week. My friend dallas who you sean some love to well we mentioned the south paw or louis odd cast without further ado clayton kershaw clayton kershaw clayton kershaw <unk> over his last seven starts guy fina six in one. He's rock in a one four e._r._a. Over forty five innings pitched he's logged fifty nine punch outs. Only thirteen free passes in that time opponents hitting one sixty seven against the lefty and should things continue need a trend in the direction. They are for clayton kershaw what he will achieve will be something that hasn't been achieved since zach greeky was a los angeles dodger. I got some peeps ready for jay. Jorges aware oh he's closing on the oil single. You'll season homerun record. There is the record is thirty eight by moose and twenty seventeen solaire has thirty five and here is here's the mind-blowing thing he would be the i player in royals franchise history to be thirty five homer nine hundred zero p._s._e. Season how is that possible. I don't know i flare rubber thirty five homers nine hundred plus oh p._s. Jorges dilara finally tapping into some of that potential that made him such a hot cubs name back in the day and my other guy could tell marty we all know can tell martinis having a great season. What you may not know is that according to fan graphs. He's now up to number five among position players in all of baseball in wins above replacement and he's behind. It's just yelich trout brag yelich trout bellinger and zander bogart's those the only people he's behind the entire the league and a lot of people were wondering would he be able to keep up the pace that he kept up in the first half. 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Effectively Wild Episode 1416: Live at Saber Seminar (for the Third Time)

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

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Effectively Wild Episode 1416: Live at Saber Seminar (for the Third Time)

"They do <music> the hello. Everyone thinks i ran to the end of the day and welcome to what will be episode. Fourteen sixteen of effectively wild a baseball podcast from fan graphs normally made possible by our patriot supporters and today also made possible by sabre seminar in boston where we we are. I know you know where we are but i'm just telling people listening in the future i and lindbergh of the ringer and with me is meg rally from fan graphs who is sort of sick nick but less sick than she was a week ago. I got a real sudafed and i bought a house and maybe to student loans and to acquire it but we're going to do the best. Yes we can say yeah. Usually there's a continent between us when we record these but once a year or so we emerged from our respective recording caves and we actually get to talk in person which is strange but also nice except that if you cough you can't mute yourself in a live setting nowhere to hide so as those of you in the room with us have no doubt notice. There's a third person on the stage with us and his face is familiar because he he has been our capable m._c. This weekend and we wanted to give them a chance to take the stage himself so this is alex pier from the boston globe. Hello alex hello in thank. You and i feel badly normally you. I should have had the two of you sitting next to each other. Intruding still so alex has been too self-effacing to turn sabre seminar into a promotional opportunity for the most part so we will do that for him. Alex has a book coming out this week this. It's tuesday august thirteenth. That will be of interest to many of you. I am holding it up right now. I have it in my hands. You can have it in your hands very shortly. It's called home grown and how the red sox built a champion from the ground up and you have some nerve coming on this podcast to talk about a book about player development because i kind of hoped that i had the year to myself. You have some nerve publishing. A book about their developmental was coming out here we are we didn't coordinate our publishing schedules. I guess you couldn't really choose because you've had a championship to tie this into but hopefully the bookshelves are it would have been a different book and we waited. Yeah that's true but i'm sure bookshelves will be big enough for for both of us so it probably seems like a long time since three tux won the world series these days but it hasn't actually been that long and i'm curious how this book came to be because it's a pretty hefty book and it's a richly rewarded and every now and then you'll see kind of like the quickey books that come out to capitalize is on a world series championship and that is not what this this seems like something you've been working on for a while and inferred from the knowledge at the end that this project object had been germinating for a while and maybe the world series was just your opportunity seized. Yeah i think it kinda hit the fast forward but non on an idea. How did that started in two thousand fifteen. The red sox signed you on moncada. You all remember him in probably know him very well to the largest signing bonus ever given to a player with no an international amateur with no professional experience so sixty three million bucks they spent on this guy and i got to report on that both in spring training and then going to to see him when he was making his debut in greenville for the greenville drive but the interesting thing was he wasn't necessarily going to be the best player on that team because that was an unbelievable believable affiliate and i was at the time i was reporting on the on the minor league system of the red sox on a daily basis and moncada was joining in late may a group that already included included rafael devers in michael kopech in michael chavis in marine patio. Do bond who was who was kind of merging prospect and hobby are garra who was kind of breaking into top one hundred territory in later in the year he was joined by andrew benintendi and bhai anderson espinosa so it was as good a prospect group as i had ever seen in a single red sox affiliate. I was around a couple of times and thought you know it'd be kind of interesting to see what happened. If you know if you map out where all of them went over the next five two years what that might look like in what that might tell you about prospect development and overlaid on top of that the red sox office kind of seized and and <hes> and went through some pretty drastic changes in their competitive fortunes went up and down and they had to figure out different ways of supplementing discord that they had they had had emerging that ended up intersecting in a very interesting way last year with the different core that they had formed it so it is time to think about that group and the one the preceding it you beat me to it. I guess but it was so interesting. When your book came out because i would i would highly recommend like the m._v._p. Machine if you guys don't know about it. It's fucking unbelievable and it's probably the most i mean. I truly think that it's the most significant baseball book that i've read since since moneyball it is so insightful in terms of how how the landscape has suddenly changed. It brings together a lot of things that have been kind of did did have been disparate and we've approached them from an atomised perspective and all of a sudden. You have a book that brings together what it's meant that you have these different tools whether third statistical or whether it's or whether it's technological. There's great technological terror that we're all building right in. It synthesizes something. This happened happened largely. Since the beginning of that project because again like i was thinking about the starting in two thousand fifteen and i had been tracing the development of zander bogart's in jackie bradley jr. in your dating to twenty twelve mostly and the experience that they had coming up in player development was very very different than what's happening now and so like mind some kind of came out after yours but kind of points to a more traditional player development successful player development process right yeah there there are parts of the book where someone will be struggling at highway or something and it'll be like he's getting down on himself and thinking that he doesn't belong at the level and coaches will be saying well. You're hitting the ball hard and that sort of thing and i just kept thinking we'll show him the track mandate but then remembering oh there was no track mandate because this is two thousand twelve or something so how do do you think that would have changed the trajectory of some of the core red sox players that you mentioned in the book if at all it's a little bit hard to say that they would have come up to the majors faster faster because they basically all ended up bypassing all bypassing aaa and many of them barely experiencing aa we have some indication of how it could change trajectories a little bit later where some of the inefficiencies that existed in player development might have been addressed for instance jalen beaks is someone who's not overly not really heavily in the consciousness of people when they think about the two thousand eighteen red sox championship but jalen beaks someone who was drafted in two thousand fourteen so right as the red sox's starting to use track man on their own before it's being introduced at the big league level but as it starting to make its way through anti overhauled literally every pitch that he threw in some way or rather whether it was the grip whether it was whether it was the actual shape of the breaking ball whatever he overhauled everything he threw so all of a sudden the red sox who sucked at developing pitchers for a number of years got a guy up to the big leagues as a kind of you know. Maybe he's a starter. Maybe maybe he supports star. Someone who had value who allowed them to make a trade first of all there might have been more balanced player development for the red sox between i think that it affected pitching the technological advances probably it affected pitching drastically and more immediately than they affected hitting the position plane course some of those guys might have worked through some of their struggles a little bit quicker but i think that a lot of the data for rafael devers they were able to give him track mandate if he wanted to if they wanted to but it was still kind of traditional player development concepts they were talking about with with him about like this is where you do damage on pitch rate. The data probably would have said mookie betts was good so but it's not because in two thousand twelve when he was in bowl he didn't hit a damn homerun and in fact didn't hit a fly ball to the warning track in lull. So you know like where is. Where do we go with that like would he have been even more would've been even harder for a scalp to have stuck out his neck for mookie betts in twenty eleven into say this. This guy has a chance to be really good. When the batted ball data would have indicated. You know a guy who was able to spray you know spray pitches around the field with like solid line. I don't know what his exit excipient would've looked like when he was five foot nine in one hundred fifty pounds sir. I also yeah well before i was thinking about it. It's implications for the book because i wasn't thinking of this book per se up until up until about ten months ago but it became startlingly jarringly apparent like the day they hit the day that the press release was issued that the red sox. We're taking a very different path in the one that they had taken there was a lot of concern frankly as there should be on when when there's turnover in an organization about what the implications we're going to be for who is going to be fire who was going to be kept around their significant continuity in a number of departments including player development so some of the precepts precepts were the same but the first we kind of all thought okay. There's a chance that a lot of these really good prospects are going to start to get traded and then lo and behold in the winter turn the winter arrives and dave dombrowski makes a four for one deal for a closer which is a deal that probably doesn't get done by bench harrington before that the deal was headlined by manuel margot and javier garra in both of those guys that was considering what was being given up in the fact that they were redundant and the system those parts didn't and end up hurting the red sox and in fact garros now trying to pitch in the padres system the part that hurt was the was the debris ski way when he included logan allen on the back end of that deal and there had been a lot of discussion that was where there was kind of some discomfort among some of the people in his new organization like i think we might have been able to keep logan allen around when we were headlining lining the package with two really good players but dombrowski is a dealmaker and you know he'll round up when it comes to the price on on trades and i don't think that he hasn't regrets about that. I don't think a lot of people are that many regrets all that they would like to have logan outing the organization now yeah i think the red sox were third in homegrown war last year in the majors but second and free agent were so they kind of did everything well. You could have called it it free agent and it could have just been about signing j._d. Martinez able to sign all those guys were the cheapness of the homegrown right yeah well so you start out the first chapter. It's kind of it's a riveting narrative story. I think it worked out well for you. The two thousand eleven draft which came down to the final few seconds and i don't know whether it's controlled controlled chaos or just chaos because how close did the red sox come to not getting bets to not getting some of these guys because it really went down to the last few seconds gins before the deadline the signing deadline in august and i understand that there's a brinksmanship element and people are motivated to make deals at the end but they left it so close us and fenway with weak cell phone reception just like you can very easily blow one of these signings they lost contact with the agent for henry owen ruined stirring the last seconds right before the midnight deadline and so they just kind of filed a number and hope that the agreement had in fact gone through figuring that they could unspeakable it if necessary necessary. It's eleven thirty and they're like maybe we should talk to. These guys like it was making me nervous. Yeah just read it. It was what a weird thing that they know. No that major league baseball had this kind of it was there was such a push to maximize the amount of money that especially high school kids could get rightly so on their part. They should push m._l._b. Teams yeah because the m._l._b. Teams are going to stiffen for a number of years after they get up to the big leagues but you know there. There are just been kind of this funneling over the last few years of the draft before for the c._p._a. Changes of two thousand twelve where like more and more and more negotiation started going down to the august fifteen deadline until finally that last year everyone had them going down to midnight. Including including the red sox who had four first round draft picks they had to address as well as this kind of interesting fifth rounder named mikey batts yeah yeah well. It's an interesting indicator of the off season has no deadline and so it's suddenly become this terrible pain drying buying type of phenomenon so you know stick deadlines into anything where you want people to actually get something done so you talk a lot about phase one and face he's two and phase three in the book the red sox understanding of their own point in the competitive cycle and the sharing tony phase yeah so all teams plan their seasons like marvel movies. I don't know that their bench harrington to someone who always had you know who still always has a very meticulous long range outlook on things and who is pretty careful about thinking about what the future is going to look like x. Years down the road owed and you know there. There are benefits to that because you always keep in mind what's ahead. There's also disadvantages when you assume there's an assumption of some predictability and sometimes rigidity of the future that can come back and bite you so i don't i know that everyone i think that honestly in my experience of in my experience of covering baseball i think the bench errington has unique personality in terms of how measured measured he is in examining short-term in like he didn't tear it away when they want everything in two thousand thirteen and when it looked like they were about to have this coming great era because zander bogart's jackie bradley jr. were suddenly going to become full season contributors he's going to like we'll see how it goes. He's he's distinct- distinction thinking that way so i don't know that everyone has a quite layered out that way but you do see teams that excel in terms of you know in terms of charting the short-term and long-term courses says. I think that the dodgers have been you know. The dodgers are extraordinary in terms of how far out they've mapped the ability to maintain depth right and you often see when a team he wins the world series that there are a lot of holdovers from previous regime that didn't make it and that's particularly true. I think in boston's case where you can point to so many players who were from the charrington era and he talks about this in the book and you have him even joking before he was pushed out or left of his own accord about how much the next canoe enjoy all these players that he was trying to hoard so how does he feel about that from talking to him. I mean does he feel bitter at all about having assembled this roster during the not having been there to enjoy it no. I don't think that there's no that's. That's not really how he rolls. I think that you know. I think that there was a sense he. He didn't want to leave boston when he did. He felt like he he felt like he had to. He felt like he wasn't really being given a choice but i think that he took considerable pride in the fact that he had remained true to the principles of organization building the that he had had even when he was well aware that in boston the consequences of not winning immediately could be his job. He looked beyond that in talking to john henry during the year in which he ultimately was fired he said look i'm interested in what's best for the organization so if you at any point in this decide that that's not having in it that's fine we can discuss that candidly in what that might look like for you and he wanted it to be part of helping the red sox become good again beyond that really crappy dark time of two thousand fourteen two thousand fifteen that force a lot of changes. You wouldn't invite boston. Sports fans to be more comfortable with sadness wound up by eh enjoy face learning. Take some stuff. Mike get weird this winter. I think that it's the red sox are a really interesting interesting point of they have. I just did a story on this a couple of days ago in the boston globe in twenty twenty two they have about one hundred ten million dollars in commit salary commitments already and that's to like five six roster spots so that doesn't even account for if they were to extend mookie betts which is hard to do when you already have that number of commitments they have they do. Have you know they feel strongly that they have some players who are going to be underrated mostly because they're are kind of on the younger end of the spectrum. They have a lot of promising guys as a lot of organizations do who are in the short season levels as well as able down douse some guys with really high ceilings but those guys are going to take a couple of years to mature the way in which they're able to supply depth over the next couple of years is not it's not going to be that necessarily that steadier pipeline as it has been even though they have a guy here guy there and aaa aa so this coming winter they have some interesting finding long-term financial financial decisions to make that kind of play into the question of how they're structured in terms of prospects were available in the near term to help and so this is kind of where they're going to have to figure out a different path than the one that they've been on yet the guys you write about in the book. They're holding up their end of the bargain this year so i i mentioned that they were third in baseball in homegrown were last year. They're also third this year and if you look at the best red sox players this year it's bogaerts bets denver's best as benintendi these tied with martinez so it's all the home guys. It's just everything else. This is not really delivering the way it did last year yeah well to the elements that are critical to figuring out so you get this homegrown in court. That's not enough right. That's not enough to make a great team. You need to supplement the homegrown core the right way and then you need to create the right culture surrounding it so both of those things are kind of slippery and it's harder to get a reliably. It's harder to get a really good quality supplementation of that homegrown core because you're often dealing from a pool of older players whose performance is going to be somewhat predictable and so we're seeing david price deal with some vicissitudes itunes over the course of the season same deal with chris sale and same deal with a lot of the high price pitchers who they've again. This is a ninety million dollar rotation. That's probably performing like <hes> spit balling it. Maybe a third of that maybe more than that but maybe half a so that's slippery and then i also think that the cultural side of things is really really difficult and that's why like one of the things i wanted to was really interesting to me is that we think of player development is an individual right like we think of a guy oh shit he's so talented wanted like he's got such great tools and we measure all of that but we failed to take account for what happens when you put people into group dynamics in like the kind of magic that might exist dan hi dan i see you waving their number countdown okay but yeah so that cultural is not consistent on a year basis necessarily fernando was referring to the difference between the two thousand eight and two thousand nine raise in how stuff got bad in the two thousand nine raise because house players had different outlooks on who they were individually and collectively and i think that's hard. I think that the red sox entrance spring training this year with you know different there were there was a greater focus on on the individual on different salary negotiations that were happening that make it more difficult to be locked in like crazy on everything anything that's happening during that three and a half to four hours a night on the field which is a long time on the field by the way the chemistry stuff in the book it just makes it seem completely impossible to predict maybe you can analyze it in retrospect but you have the twenty thirteen team that excels in that area and then you bring back most of that team and yet everything seems to go bad the next year or even if it's like twenty sixteen to two thousand seventeen or twenty seven eighteen to twenty eighteen even if the team's record in some cases is the same it was identical in some some of those years and yet the mix of players for whatever reason it's just it can be completely thrown off by one little thing and one right exactly like the pebble and the like the pebble the wheel can like throw it can mess up the whole thing and it is unpredictable. You know because that one small change can have ripples that you don't necessarily anticipate changing the whole dynamic you assume that culture can absorb some challenges in a lot of times you're wrong about that like its culture is a is a really sensitive thing when that's unpredictable and like that just in my in my observation of this of these red sox of the red sox teams that i've covered into those who have been around them tend to have a significant impact on individual and collective performance. What an you've seen this year the keenly only aware of cultural issues in these aspects they were in america on tap. We have well. I'll i'll i'll probably know more in about five years. The advantages of doing the book was that i was able to figure out stuff that was happening in two thousand fourteen with a lot greater clarity then then i found that i knew about then but they are having more team meetings. They are having more. They are trying to have the to certain leadership in different ways than they needed to last year. It's just it's kind of like it's not a simple formula for fixing it. So there's trial and error that happens and right now for the season it hasn't it hasn't really clicked in the same way and you could call the book boston ball or something how how the red sox solved player development but you didn't do that and i couldn't even tell from reading it whether whether the red sox necessarily figured anything out you know they clearly they put together this great successful cord. They built one of the most successful teams of all time and yet they made many mistakes along the way as every team. Does they had a lot of chance. I think kind of come together. Certain guys who it's just kind of a crap shoot to a certain extent in the draft didn't they had a lot of mrs and they happen to have a bunch of guys just come together at the right time and i couldn't tell how much of that was just kind of hanging onto this guy instead instead of that guy when it was a coin flip or there's so much randomness associated with everything part of it is the discipline to not trade some of these guys but then again they did trade some guys. They traded the right. They traded the right guys and i guess that is skilled. That's talent or maybe it's partly luck. It's just say the reason why dave dombrowski was hired was because he has a history of trading the all right guys and keeping the right guys and at least for the purposes of the two thousand eighteen certainly played out the fact that he kept evers instead of moncada the fact that he kept benintendi indian again instead of moncada these these things ended up being critical decisions so venturing was the right person to you know to say yeah we don't we bench. Harrington was very much that we don't know shit school and so kept the prospects together and wanna see which ones we're going to emerge and then you had dave dombrowski husky saying you know we better figure out some things. If we don't know shit we didn't know ship before it's time to figure some shit out and so making dip making different set of moves and a certain point if you any homegrown core or at least over the last you know as we've seen a number of them win over the last decade they have to reach that pivot point and others will fail fail because they they they do not make the right decisions in that moment. I'm not sure whether or not that means. They figured it out like i think that you know this is a sample size of one yielded this this incredible surpassing season but you know there is a there's a familiarity with you know there's there's a knowledge of the players that under the underlay some of those decisions that <hes> that ultimately yielded the success so theo epstein's goal was to build the scouting and player development machine and they've they've succeeded. I think to a certain extent they've had world series wins. They've had last place finishes during that time but they have built this core and i wonder whether you think it's possible civil to build kind of a perpetual motion machine team or perpetual playoff machine the way the dodgers seem to try to be doing and succeeding for the last several years what what derails project when it goes wrong when you when you fail when you run out of that talent what tends to to end that run. Do you think access amateur talent is a big one right theo epstein. His last year was two thousand eleven. They had access to a lot of supplemental draft picks that ended up being the jackie bradley juniors of the world. They have the ability to spend heavily late around picks mckee bats. That was huge. They had the ability to spend on your moncada which they don't have any more so those constraints are really going to impede the idea of perpetual player development machine in some ways i'm and then and then if you do not have extraordinary extraordinary ability ability to create yield from from kind of lesser prospects in your system to turn a twentieth round pick into a reliever you can then trade for four an important supplementary piece to a playoff roster than that affects things as well you i texted. Dan brooks to ask if i could keep asking questions. He hasn't answered so i'm going to keep asking questions. Thanks so we're at a point right now where it seems like player development is maybe more important than it's ever been. It's always been very important but i think right now. When you have such a youth movement across the game you have young players productive players who are very much underpaid relative to their older peers. Do you think the next five years ten years are we heading for a time when you can go back to buying championships to a certain extent if that time ever existed. Did we see changes that maybe make it a little less advantageous stockpile young players gentleman because it has to go that way at some point at at some point the players union has to recognize the fact that they're taking their most valuable members in in structurally making sure that they're paid the lease which is kinda stupid. Uh so that change has to happen at some point. That'll swing the pendulum. The other thing that's happening is that there are a lot of good players who really aren't done who are being marginalized. Argenteuil is is really inexpensive players in the free agency market right now or who are underrated on the trade market so yeah. I think that there's probably going to we're probably going to see in the next ten years. I bet that we'll see like one or two teams that are able to win with this hastily assembled like twenty thirteen version of the red sox championship up team where you have a couple of veteran players and then you make twelve off season moves jerry jerry dipoto dream right finally sorry america finally finally yielding if you have the right if you if you if you roll seven times at the craps table then you win a big old stack the money yeah i mean even if it becomes less advantageous from a surplus value standpoint even if you have to actually pay young players at a certain point you still count on them because they're the ones who are going to be good for the next several years whereas free agents you get them and and maybe they'll be good for a year or two or a few years if you're lucky but if if you want to build this sustainable winter there's just no other way to to it than to get young right. You need the multiple multiple phases than you better have the young guys who are going to be good for a while and healthy for for a while right. That's the key thing about why at a time when the young players stay on the field and if you get one hundred forty to one hundred fifty innings as of like five guys who were in their early to mid twenties. That's going to help native yeah yeah so. Is there a face to face five what what comes next they said. I think this is going to be a really really interesting off season for the red sox they have you know they supplemented over the last few years this extraordinary core that they assembled old and now they're going to have to be both a there's going to have to be reshaping which is kind of the first time save for the deals involving moncada and and and some of the other prospects that didn't really come back to bite them because they were guys. There's going to have to be a reshaping. Probably the comes up in the next couple of years. I think we've probably pushed the time limit and far enough unless you have any any last ones that want to get into it. You made it this episodes. You're just going to the dan. You're going to go on a coughing fit for the rest of the evening so alex plug my book so i will return the favor again. It is called homegrown. How the red sox built the champion from the grandma. It is out on tuesday august thirteenth and it's not just a good look at how this particular team was built. I don't think i'll although that's enough. I think if you're a red sox fan as many of you are in this room. You'll be fascinated by how this team came. I'm together but i think they're larger lessons in there for fans of any team about how you put together a world series winner or at least how boston did it multiple ways to do it but i really enjoyed it and it did not seem like a book that you wrote in ten months so all well. Here's one and that was yeah that was kind of the the mind eraser that we include in the feature uh-huh worked out all right. Thank you thank you guys so much. I appreciate it. Thanks you that will do it for today. Just the short one. He talked his lions we could before. They kicked us out of the room. Thanks again as always to. Dan brooks and chuck corbin. Everyone involved in organizing and sponsoring savers seminar it was great as always tons of illuminating presentations lots of great conversations and as dan tweeted after the weekend savers seminar his raised more than a quarter of a million dollars over for the past nine years for the jimmy fund and the m._g._m. Alliance and their scholarships that they give out so it is a wonderful event and we encourage you all to attend in the future if you can know. There's a lot to talk about things that happened this weekend. Cleveland and minnesota tied atop the central aristidas aquino hitting homers every day. We'll get to it all next time. And of course we are go. Get alex's book on tuesday in the meantime. You can support this podcast unpatriotic by going to patriot dot com slash effectively wild signing up to pud led some monthly amount and getting yourself access to some perks while you help the podcast continue five listeners who have already pledged their support include patrick maher eric richardson david metcalfe mike c- core and shane barclay thanks to all of you you can join our facebook group at facebook dot com slash group session festively wild and to convert rate review and subscribe to effectively wild on itunes and other podcasts platforms. Send us your questions and comments via email at podcast pankratz dot com or via the patriot domestic system. If you are a supporter thanks higgins for his editing assistance. You can also go get my book m._v._p. 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SCOREBOARD: All Tied Up

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

15:37 min | 2 years ago

SCOREBOARD: All Tied Up

"As someone who lives in breezy college football, I can promise you that this season will bring the mayhem. You'll feel it during huge wins and heartbreaking losses on Dame, winning drive, drives it in a post game Fender bender. This season teaming up with AllState highlight these key moments. The let fans know if mayhem can show up on game day. Imagine what can happen. The rest of the week for expert advice call your local agent today. He's baseball tonight. Scoreboard I'm BUSTER only and this is the baseball tonight scoreboard for Monday, October fifteenth, two thousand eighteen. This is a baggage claim. Monday. I am in the lobby of my hotel in Boston before head to Houston on Monday morning, coming up the Red Sox managed even their series against the Astros while the dodgers and brewers pick up their series out west. Let's get to it. The first page. Fenway park on Sunday night, the Red Sox and the Astros game to their series. And of course so much talk going into the game about David price and these history in the postseason ten starts and his team had never won. Meanwhile Garrett Cole on the mound for the Astros in the top of the first inning price pitching against the Astros was dealing with runners on first and second. This is what happened. Peeks out to fire. They're looking go argument from Guri Allders to away, big strike out for David price lifts the leg fire, swing. It him in. David price pitching is way out of trouble. Shabby. The legend do worked on ESPN radio and the game last night with Jessica Minoza with that call in the bottom of the first inning, the Red Sox struck, I recommend Grasset or swang in a live Dr, bass it out of the right center field. Cut it off as Rettig bet. Surround third. He's into score the Red Sox two batters in Leded wanted nothing. You could tell the Gary cole- was struggling for his secondary stuff and Rafael Devers took advantage to two on the way swing ground basically to left via Benintendi scores Bogart. So stop it. Third as federalis holds them up. It's an RBI single Deckers the other way. And it's too dummy. David price in the Red Sox had a quick to nothing lead, but in the top of the second inning, the Astros counter-attacked. Swing a line drive, fair ball inside the first base line into scores Correa Maldonado on his heels Springer into second. Just like that. The Astros have tied it up to to a soft line drive that just hung in the air and hung in the air and Pierce diving wasn't able to reach it in the top of the third. The Astros took the lead, here's a three to swing and a high fly ball left field that will back there on its way dawn over the monster Marwick Gonzales, a two run blast. The Astros have a four, two lead. After the game, Garrett, Cole would talk about what happened next is maybe being the pivot point because he did not have shutdown inning and the bottom of the third inning. After the Astor's took the lead, this is what happened. Jackie Bradley Jr. the plate bowl turns down the rubber now to one. Swing and a high fly ball towards the left field corner Gonzales swords Alon that was off the lobster into score Bogart's Pierce autists heels here comes Denver's Bradley's into second Genesee Bradley Jr. clears the bases, Red Sox by Iran Boston on top five four is that was high up onto the monster just inside the poll state of the park. It was still five, four in the bottom of the seventh inning. Lance mccullers junior was on the mound behind the plate Martine Maldonado and look Lance mccullers union as one of the best breaking balls in baseball in Maldonado acknowledged that what happened in the bottom of the seventh inning, which was repeated problems. Catching baseball may have been because his unfamiliarity with that great curl ball mccullers give lesson. Now it's left up to Bogart with bets at third to down the pitch outside off the global Maldonado. Haney Red Sox have an insurance run that one was up at a way Maldonado couldn't keep it in front and Mukhi bets, grants home six, four, Boston Rick came out of the Red Sox bullpen to throw the top of the eighth inning attacking headers and then Mookie Betts applied the coup gras in the bottom of the eighth inning. One live base hit out of the right field. That's with the knocked Evers around. Third, he's to score bet slides into second. It's an RV I double Mookie delivers than it seven to four in the top of the night. Then Craig kimbrel emerged from the Boston Doug ad. And you remember what happened at the end of the Anki series. He struggled to find home plate and there was some anxiety in the stands at Fenway park as Kimball started at night inning, and the Astros began to rally on swang in a ball ham left field towards the monster, and that's high off the monster. Now to Vail take the turn will hang on at first. He kinda limps back in there. That's an RBI single off the monster. And now it's seven, five next to the plate, Alex bregman who was red hot at the end of the regular season, the Red Sox staff, it made it clear decision not to pitch to him six walks in the firm. Two-game series. Plus he was hit by a pitch in another plate appearance in this case, Kimbrell had to throw them, and this is what happened regmunt back in a way to get a one, the pitch swing and a high fly ball, left field Benintendi near the wall and makes the catch, and that is the ballgame. Just the base of the green monster hold it in and kimbrel by the skin of his teeth to close it out and the Red Sox. Hang onto what it in the Astros clubhouse after the game bregman was asked about whether or not he thought he got it. He said, no, if I got it, it would have been out in the street. Mookie Betts was on the field after the game, and I caught up with them. We did great. No, yet out. We've proven that we've been in both games. Everyone was second one and we'll just continue to play are going into Houston. When asked you about a couple of pitchers, David price, you know the scrutiny that's been on early game, keeps you guys right there. You guys win a game. He starts. Yeah. I mean, he's a great pitcher, you know, no matter what people say goes out. He are thirty million dollars a year. For reason he showed about record cells work out of the bullpen. He's, you know, he's done great. Starting out of the bullpen anywhere you put up. You know, he's got. And compete Fisher. AJ Hinch. The Astros manager talked about Mukhi bets ignited from the very beginning of the game. I mean, this place energy of this place when he comes up too bad is is really electrifying. So when you try to minimize much as you can in front of them, we didn't do a great job of that today. But from the the first bat- on, he kind of set the tone from the very beginning. So it's why he's very much MVP candidate. AJ was asked also about looking bad's, going around the bases in that seventh inning to make the score six, two, four at that time, give a lesson the insurance from this word and the seven Makiko around the basis how unusual to see that with with its. He went around the basis that have to put a ball and play in on. That's those are tough in this in this type of series is tightly CEPA games. It's a long characteristic. I mean, obviously, mccullers abroad mccullers ended try to keep it a one run game with the way that this series can go. And it's almost like a Tiger Balm for me. So last to a couple of nasty breaking ball, just look like, you know, Martinez lost it in the people in center field or just got a little bit got a little bit lax back. There had a little tough time and Mukhi went around the bases. I walk and then no-ball plane is of scorn before this series began AJ Hinch raved about Mukhi bets in his impact on the Red Sox. And Alex Cora was asked about Hinch comments on mochi and his play. Give lesson. Listen. A game AJ called Mukhi ticking time bomb, and he kind of went off tonight. Do you think it was more himself tonight? You said you wanted to get on the air did a couple of times? Yeah, Jesus Margai they went to Stanford. So. Yesterday, like like he said, he got a pitch middle, middle, and just rolled over with the base loaded tonight. He, he was able to stay in the middle of the ballpark and. It was. It was good. He walked as mccullers round the basis. Well. And I saw smiling today, which is always good. You know when Mook is filing things are happening. During the course of the game word broke that Chris sale was admitted to a hospital. Alex score talked about that. I mean, I know they send the memo radio. They talk about it. Actually, I was walking into the Vatican -cation the TV I saw the tweet by they were going to station, you know, he was limb bag, you know, and he's into hospital for what I know is is nothing serious, you know. But obviously, you know, whenever you have to go to hospital, you got to be your quote, unquote worry, but he should be fine. Hopefully we could news in the coming hours and he'll join us in Houston, that streak of ten starts without having a win for his team for David price comes to an end and he was asked about that. David even wasn't seventy th one run. Do you feel like you showed something tonight that you hadn't before time star? We enjoy the these next few days more than the last few days. I mean, we won. That's that's my first team win as a starter. So it's his baby steps. Baby steps. I expect to win, but I'm very happy that we won. He said, he understands the narrative around him. I expect myself to be great in big moments and I haven't done that does far in my career, but I came here to win period came here to win a World Series and to do it multiple times. And that's what I'm about. Not put myself aside. This isn't this isn't about me. I understand the narratives. I get that. You know, I deserve those narratives, but this is this is bigger than David price. This isn't about me. This is about the Boston Red Sox. Kyle soppe Senate some notes on this series in that game to the Red Sox bullpen allowed to. It's one earn run in foreign at third innings of work. Mookie Betts to doubles drew walk in this game. He's reach base eight times in his last four games, Rafael Devers two for three in this game four. Pretend in the postseason the series between the dodgers and the brewers had an off day at traveled day on Sunday. After what happened on Saturday, Justin Turner at the plate top of the eighth inning, the dodgers down three, two to the to go and Turner launches -able deep left field and gone to run Homer into the front row of the second deck down the left field line, and Justin Turner has given the dodgers the lead here in the city. Dan Schulman on ESPN radio here was the final call Ron on deck one into the count on tying right now. It's second pitch on the way to swing of broken about a little roller towards third Turner up with it onto I in time and the dodgers win it. And a lot of the conversation within the series is about the brewers and the use of the bullpen, Josh shaded through three innings in game one and game two, he was not available. Craig counsel. Brewers manager talked about his bullpen. We were in really good shape with the effort that Wade gave us and pitch beautifully and Corbin finish the six than you know, the seventh was was a tough ending with Machado and Bellinger. So that was going to be a tough ending. But yeah, I mean, I think an out there was, you know, we just didn't get a out there. And so I think that that led to, you know them having a pretty good rally and we were, I still thought we were set up pretty good. He just turned got a split and and. He talked about bullpen strategy. Yeah, I think making their bullpen work is you know something you want to do, but I don't. None of us have the right answer is good that you face the guys that good that you're making more. You know, in the end that stuff comes down to the players got to go out there and and battle each other. That's that's going to be the game. So you know, they, they obviously used a bunch of guys today, and I think both teams are getting. It's it's in a series like this. Both teams are getting looks at that the other teams volt on, that's that's how it works in game one, Justin Turner really struggle, but he got the big hit and game two and Dave Roberts talked about that. It did upset them and it takes a special athlete to have a night like you had last night and to show up the next day in a big spot and want to have the bag in your hand. And Justin is that guy, and those are hard to come by. Justin Turner also talked about his performance in game two. Yeah, I think it was well documented. That was probably the worst game like rear offense. But I think you just shrugged off the beat about baseball. We got to go to sleep and show up and do it again today. So obviously wasn't feeling good about myself last night and wasn't happy with the results. But like I said, today was a new day and another chance to go out and win a ball game. So. Later today in Los Angeles game, three of the series Walker bueller. Starting the dodgers. You lease shift seen starting for the brewers. Thanks baseball tonight scoreboard be sure to check out the baseball tonight. Podcast Kirch in will join me talk about the events of the weekend, and I try to turn the tables on Josh in Todd, raiders uniform quiz, and we'll have a conversation Jose. Altuve, thanks for listening and have a great day of about it. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight scoreboard and be sure to download all podcasts including the baseball tonight podcast at ESPN dot com slash pod center. The baseball tonight scoreboard.

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Devers Delivers

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

50:23 min | 1 year ago

Devers Delivers

"Tonight the podcast. This is the baseball tonight podcast for wednesday august fourteenth. I'm sarah then for buster. Buster oster will be back tomorrow. My producer is danny with start with the phillies who replaced their hitting coach yesterday. With charlie manual seventy five year old charlie manual will have buster paul-henri keates get their opinions on that promise and pretty differing opinions. We saw josh hater struggle again last night. We'll get into that and a career night for rafael devers. We'll talk about what he accomplished in what he's been up to all season wall so talk to mandy bell covers the indians for m._l._b. Dot com. Let's get to what happened. I've been on the field with their new hitting coach in tow j._t. Rail muto came up to the plate and a tie game in the bottom of the seventh for the phillies pass third. It'll go down the line. It's all the way to the corner around for second is nap nap headed for third wave at him to the plate. The relay home from buyers is going to be late the third he saved an affiliate or back in front j. T. real new show has put the phil's on top. It's three to hear the bottom of the senate that courtesy of sports radio ninety four w i p the phillies went onto win four to two in that tight and l. wild card race another race ace. That's been real tight. The american league central the twins yielded sole possession of first place the indians entering tuesday but found their way back in part thanks to a big hit for marlin gonzales us here. He comes swinging and a drive in the left center and and the twins have the lead baldwin gonzales first off ring from jock ater and hit a three-run audio. No donavan log level that one thanks to the treasure island baseball network twins one seventy five indians lost will get to that in a little bit twins are back in first entering today. Now remember all those home runs. The mariners hit is beginning of the year. They got up performance last night. They hadn't seen in a while use the pitch swing and a high hi dr deep to right field by seeger going back is looking up and goodbye baseball kyle seager on ties it seger with his twelve th home run of the season straightaway right field a one one pit reagan boss type ballgame that babies john why outta here ear kyle seager back to back plate appearances with home runs this when three run jack ties it six six and the two one pitch swing and a high apply ball in the left centerfield and deep going back to center fielder and making the cancer. The top of the wall is gone. Did he make the catches at gone. It is gone over the wall off. The glove of nico good romance kyle singer has done it his third home run of the first time ever in kyle's to rear hit a three runs in one game all those thanks to e._s._p._n. Seven ten seattle so as i said i three homer game of kyle ziegler's career i by mariners players jose lopez in september twenty ten even with all those home runs. They hurt hit earlier this year. Nother series the braves. The mets mets are surging braves have been trying to hold their own in the division edge that lead ronaldo kunia junior came to the plate with his team three one three two kunia hits one well at the left field. He just branded his name on this thing deep into the home run rouse. The basis is operatives thirty four th home run of the year what power by this young man. It's four one brady that won. Thanks to six eighty the fan. It's the kunas sixtieth career home run. He's one of just six players to reach sixty homers before turning twenty two. He's going for thirty thirty season. Maybe even a forty forty. The braves won five three loan day game. Yesterday was a makeup from monday rain out between the astros and the white sox. George springer got it started early and the first pitch of the ball game is built it to let fail that you can't kissed that one goodbye over the grandstand a first pitch leadoff homerun for george springer and it's now a what nothing astros lead wow that call from k._b._m. E seven nine hundred am one four hundred sixty seven feet that springer dinger. It was his ninth leadoff homer in a season fifteenth since the start of last year most in the majors. The astros won on the first game of that double header six to to go to l. a. and some of the nighttime action we saw rookie catcher do something pretty impressive and then a guy that we're pretty much used. He's doing this thing. This one is hitting the air to left. Center field headed back toward the wall. It is a home run for smith is second of the night. The dodgers lead at six to one. It's the ninth home run for will smith valid jerk russia's want t- bright center way back in go on home run bellenger his thirty nine tying his career high. It is ten to <music> that one from a._m. Five seventy l._a. Sports the dodgers of course playing in miami last night but if they'd been in l. a. we'll smith walks up to the fresh fresh prince song which is very important to know dodgers one fifteen to one in new york orioles and yankees. We know they're going to be home runs in this one and they got started pretty early. Swings first pitch hammer's gone another yankees homer against baltimore that one yes network ryan ruko. We didn't see glitter torres homer last night but we did get four hundred forty six foot one ten point five mile an hour home run from d._j. Was a yankees one eight two three over the orioles in with the nationals in washington brian dosier ms three stars the stomach bug but it was back in a big way on tuesday two to hit in the year deeply toward the corner. This one's got a chance winker looking up and it's got brian brian cetane nationals go deep twice in the sitting against the nationals three of the reds that that call thanks to nationals radio network nationals went on to win three two one obviously very important team in that not wild card race our game of the day the red sox in the indians sean's. We saw a really important game for both teams. Red sox are trying to stay in the postseason race. They're trying really hard. We saw them use the guy who was supposed to pitch tonight. Nate evolved baldy. He got used in the eighth inning of that game and you know early on the starter. Chris sale did something pretty impressive for his gre- one to twenty gonna m._s. Strike three got him on a change up and there is the two thousand strikeout the career of chris sale sell got there and fewer innings. I've got two thousand strikeouts in fewer than any other pitcher in major league history breaking record held by none other than pedro martinez. He kept pitching kept pitching. He finished up his his game with this many strikes. You're gonna miss it a high fastball mcconnell's with totally overmatched as he's wrong up again. That's the eleventh k. for chris chris. I was his fourteenth. Ten strikeout game of the year sale just had eleven ten strikeout games last year but the game was tied at got close. Indians clawed back until extra innings when jackie bradley came to the plate. Here's the pitch swing. There's a drive in the right field. Deep down the line where back at it. It is gone homerun j. b. j. and the red sox lead at seven six after j._j. Put them ahead. Rafael devers came up to the place place. He was already having pretty much career game listener what else he does pitch swing. There's a shot to right center field and it gets down for him. It's going to hop all the way to the wall aw there is on his way to second base and he has a four double game. He is six for six and he has forty three doubles. This season four doubles tonight to go with two singles that is unreal a six game all of those calls. Thanks thanks to w. e. e. I ninety three point seven f._m. The red sox won seven six. Keep their pace. Try to stay in that wild card race and the indians fell back out the first half the game out behind the twins. 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That's ziprecruiter dot com slash b. the u. s. t. e. r. ziprecruiter dot com slash buster ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire. I'm now joined joined by buster. Olney who is normally the host of this podcast but buster has been on a vacation a very well deserved vacation so buster. Thank you so much for letting me fill in and thank you so much for being being here with me today and thanks for hosting the podcast. I feel like i'm a pitcher coming back from an injury on flat ground with you today work my way back in slowly because you've had too many hikes too many walks in too much swimming in too much fishing in that whole thing so i appreciate you helping me with the transition of course sounds a lot better better than being out with injury to me so first thing. I thought we could get into here. Obviously we talked about earlier on the podcast and the open here about the phillies hiring charlie manual l. as their new hitting coach replacing john molly charlie manual seventy five years old. He won the two thousand eight world series with this club and obviously them to a pennant the next year now. He's the hitting coach. What was your initial reaction to this buster because i was honestly sitting there yesterday thinking. I want to talk about this tomorrow. What is buster thinking i first off. I wasn't surprised <hes> because hitting coaches and pitching coaches now are like the most disposable item in organizations right. If things aren't going well. You're gonna to make change. The phillys haven't been producing as much they've been expected and charlie someone who's around all the time you're when you're around the phillies spring training he's always standing behind the hitting cage and although he managed for a lot of years you know hitting his thing you know hitting coach for the indians for years <hes> and he relates well to hitters and you just gotta figure that this is the phillies is looking for a different voice <hes> looking for a different connection and man. I like i said you know males <hes> <hes> you know just being let go by the phillies someone who is a lotta respect within the organization but i it goes under the category of it's a lot easier to fire a coach than it is to deal with the players yeah and you know the thing. That really stands out to me. Is you know is he. Is he the choice they you want here with analytics and the way things have changed even since he was last a hitting coach as you mentioned or even since he was last a manager you know i mean he's obviously a great hitting mind. We know that but do you think he can be doing the same kind of hitting coach job that we see from maybe some of these younger guys who are taking on those roles now and it's a conversation that you had when your mets fired their pitching coach dave island and brought in phil regan at eighty two years old. I suspect respect party. Probably part of the phillies thinking is that you're not gonna make major swing changes in the middle of august that stuff. That's usually left for in a full offseason of work now. It just might be a different voice. You know different vibe a different feel and let's face it. It might also come down to is is a lot of these things do in the n._b._a. And i think increasingly in base all what's the relationship of the the best player in this case bryce vice harper with charlie manual. Maybe it'll it'll give the players a chance to reset and maybe that's part of what the phillies thinking is but i don't think i don't think charlie only knowing him. He's not going to be going in there talking about launch angle in about degrees of you know putting the ball in the air exit velocity you know he was someone who worked under under ted williams and he has an acute knowledge bidding but i don't think he necessarily is going to be wounded language right off the top yeah i think it'll be real interesting to see how the the whole team sort of synthesizes all of it you know knowing that there are other voices and there there are people from you know baseball information department and whatever else in how much his voice sort of comes in with those others to kind of bring it all together one thing that stood out to me about the phillies often looking at yesterday was entering yesterday. They were twenty third in slugging percentage and they're expected. It's like percents was actually lower. They had four seventeen team slugging percentage and a 399 expected slugging percentage. If that were there slugging percentage they would have been fourth-worst in the major so i mean they clearly need some help there. It's funny because their offense took such a turn when mccutchen went down with an injury right. I mean i think when we look at their season. I don't think it's the work of the hitting coach it was a turning point but they had such a great structure with their lineup at the beginning of the year with andrew hitting leadoff it it felt like put everything else in order in that lineup and now you hittin bryce harper leadoff. You got hidden second. Just hasn't been the same since andrew del yeah and and it's funny because i think we talked about. I think we talked when they signed mccutchen. I remember thinking that this is going to be one of those under the radar moves right. Nobody that was not the outfielder that anyone when was waiting on them to sign. We knew they were waiting on harper. We were everyone was anticipating. That happening and you know andrew mccutchen just has that kind of glue glue you know that's what he is and he so consistent and i actually distinctly remember talking about how he very rarely misses dame's and very rarely is injured and obviously here we are and that's kind of where to turn you know we saw how much firepower they had early in the season and it just completely fell off and to your point. I don't know that this will fix it but you know they're in there and they're battling. I think there to back right now of the wildcard and they're they're trying you know i there's such high expectations there obviously sleigh with harper and with everything else going on in philly you know i had an interesting conversation with a baseball official yesterday and he made the point that right now like the worst job in baseball is to be a hitting coach. It's absolutely the worst job because so many of these guys now have their own personal coaches their personal swing and coaches. I mean the most famous example the most notable example robert fan scoiety back working with j._d. Martinez before robert <hes> employment with the diamondbacks and then went onto the dodgers doing a great job with l._a. Now and so many players now you hear about them you know working out in the morning or working out during off day with their personal hitting coaches and is one major league coach said to me now. What happens is is that you know. The hitter works out with a personal swing coach. They talk about launch angle they have their strategy satiety and they go into a game and if they don't have success will who's the guy who gets blamed now. It's the guy standing in the dugout the personal personal hitting coach because he's not at the game. He's not part of the failure. That happens at night. It's the hitting coach who gets <hes> blamed and the most notable example that the last couple years was chili davis with the cubs he didn't connect and i mean that in terms of <hes> philosophically with chris bryant and because of that at the end of the year because he wasn't connecting with one of the best players in his conversations. I don't think any of it was personal. Chilly gets fired. You wanna being rehired by at the medicine. This executive said to me yesterday like that's the worst job in baseball now because if the player does well it's the player in the personal hitting coach who kit all the credit and and if the players struggles it's the coaching the dugout who gets blamed which is why we're seeing such turnover with that job yeah and you said before. It really reminds me of a sort of n._b._a. V._a. Type thing you know like when lebron james goes to a new team. We just expect a new coach because he'll want his coach. It very much reminds me of that which is interesting. That's not what you sort of expect act out of baseball and we don't even see i don't have the numbers but it feels like we don't see quite as many in season managerial changes these days but how many hitting coaches which is pitching coaches. I mean just even over the last two or three years. You know over the course of the season assistant hitting coaches that feels like that is the go to move and that's where that blame lies as you said another team in the in that wild card race that i want to talk about the brewers so we saw we talked about in the open. We saw marlin gonzalo. We heard tomorrow gonzalez this homerun josh hater. He's allowed. Thirteen home runs this year in forty four appearances. He allowed thirteen in ninety appearances in the first two years of his career combined combined. I saw you tweeting all this morning buster. What do you think could be contributing to this. I mean complete change in josh ater and the resulting think well the most obvious thing and i'm sure you agree with me. Is that you think about the baseball's right. Is he just mean. We've talked about the the hitters who are benefiting from. I'm the baseballs and how they're flying every day. It seems like some homerun numbers going down some home run. Mark is going down and on the flip side with all these home runs being hit. That might just be what comes down to josh hater. I was looking at his fastball velocity and some of his use patterns that he's had and it's interesting because as you know his strikeout rate is actually up a swing and miss rate is ordinary. His fastball velocity is actually higher this year than it was last year so it's not the question is stuff the one number that jumped out to me that was different and i wonder if it's worth the conversation and then the brewers organization about this is he's his pace in his temple on the mound here this pitching coaches all the time you know for example <hes> wade miley someone who is one of the fastest tempos in baseball and he i believe in that because he feels like he keeps the hitters off balance by working fast. He gives them less time to think about what they wanna. Do i know adam. Wainwright believes in that as well the more time that the hitter has to prepare for the pitch in some respects. He feels like that that they'll use that to their advantage. Josh haters temple on the mound has changed changed dramatically this year. It's gone from twenty four point eight seconds between pitches to thirty seconds. He's i think the eighth slowest are ranked like one hundred fifty seven thousand one hundred sixty four relievers in baseball and you do wonder especially with stuff being that electric if it would work better for him temple on the mound to be like a machine gun. Just keep pumping fastballs not giving hitters a chance more time to gear up for the fast balls that he throws and i'm curious about your response to that because you know the number so well but it feels like that that's it's at least something they should look at yeah you know i had until i saw you talking about this. This morning. I had not sought to look into that part of the what's different for dominator but everything you say is right that you know the bossie is actually up and in some ways his fastball has been even better except for this one way so i do wonder if that time between green pitches could be contributing. I think that makes a lot of sense. You know you're not necessarily used to seeing that pitch and then when you get enough time to kind of think about it between the first and second because we know that that's basically what he throws. I forgot the number but he'd like six percent eighty six percent fastballs right and i was in at the beginning the season i think he went like three or four outings before he threw an off speed pitch right. He threw like however many consecutive fastballs to start the year. It was hilarious and really cool but you think about that. If you start to get used to that pitch and you get a little more time to think within the fat and you know that that's what's coming that certainly could be how you get a hold of one into to the point of the balls flying out this year and everything else. Maybe you get a hold of one. It would have been a double and instead. It's a home run this year but i think it's it's really interesting. I it kind of reminds many of justin bieber lenders season a bit right because he strike out all these guys he's looking like cy young and a lot of ways and he's going to set his career high in home runs and he's he's giving up close to the most home runs among starters so you know maybe this is a readjusts. This is how twenty nine hundred bucks but it does feel like the thing with josh hader is he's in in these he's high leverage situations right in the seventh eighth and ninth inning so when he does that liberals were relying on him not doing so. It's certainly been very different this yeah one other thing. I wanted to get to here with you. We saw in the ninth inning of game last night. <hes> the mets braves game down in atlanta jeff. Mcneil made contacts is leading off. The inning pulled up lame. He's running to first base. He's grabbing his hamstring. He left the game <hes> the mets after the game. He'll have an m._r._i. This morning in atlanta's so we don't know the results of that yet. It's about nine fifteen here right now but obviously this would be an absolutely devastating injury for the mets. He's you know right there air for the batting title with christian yelich. She's been you know kind of out of nowhere for them. That's over these last two years but an incredibly important player to this team is they tried to continue this push that they started about two weeks ago. What what did you think when you saw that buster just having having so many friends who are mets fans <hes> that is just crushing because and you would assume when you look at the replay of it when the athletic trainer get out to him and mickey callaway they get out to you know he tells them it's miami and you can read his lips saying that and just the look on his face. He knows that it's potentially a problem. In his post game interview. You could see he was does he knows that this is a potential situation and he mentioned the hopes that some kind of a cramp and it was hot in atlanta. I read what one hundred degrees on the field before the game or felt like like one hundred eight degrees because the humidity and you know hopefully it's just a minor thing but if you know pan pete alonso again you're mets fans. I defer to your opinion. They are the heart and soul all this team. I mean what good that they've accomplished this year. Those two guys are right in the middle of it and i've had so many managers talk about you. Know heard heard them talk about through the years. You know the energy players the guys who brought every day d._j. Lemay who clearly has been that guy for the yankees for example you know in past seasons. We've seen mookie betts. Be that guy for the yankees jeff for the red sox. Jeff mcneil is absolutely that guy for the mets this year. It's not only about you know the high production but it's about the energy that he's bringing to the field everyday so i'm sure they have their fingers crossed and look <hes> if it turns out that it is a significant injury they do have joe oh panic who they just signed in and by the way sidebar you knew they were going to sign him because he went to st johns and jeff wilpon who has a lot to do with the mets decisions also went to saint john's. I texted exited sunday night. <hes> baseball group when this went down when joe was released by the giants like future met joe panic. You knew that was coming yet. I mean he's he's a a decent player but he's not gonna play with the same type of energy that jeff mcneil brings to the ballpark every day and i mean we've seen joe panic. Obviously actually he was very good for the giants in two thousand fourteen one gold glove and everything but he's never carried a team quite the way that jeff mcneil is carrying the mets right now and you know the thing that really stands out to me is that you think about the mets teams that have been may be good but we're even great in the last twenty years or so right as they have not won the world series. Maybe gotten close obviously in two thousand fifteen. They got close in two thousand and this is the kind of player that has been so rare for them. You know i mean jose. Reyes was their leadoff guy for so long but he wasn't this kind of player in my mind i mean he he was a different kind of electric player and this is something that's one thousand fifteen team could've used right and it it definitely seems like you know this whole stretch and everything could very likely be over at his season is over a freeze out for a long period of time you just you have to hope for the plan erin for the person that he'll be okay and that the team will be okay buzzer. Thank you so much for joining me. This is so funny the role reversal. I love it and so great to talk to you and you'll be back hosting tomorrow right so i'll be back hosting tomorrow. I've got a simulated podcast later in the day and then i got a bullpen podcast session later and i think i'll be back to full speed by tomorrow morning but i appreciate you filling in for me. 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You know big late comeback as they continue this march i to potentially winning the division but they did drop it in extras but they sold the best record in the major since june first and we've just seen this team really kind of transformed in season. Isn't what what has changed for this team yeah i it's hard to pinpoint one exact thing that that's been the difference maker <hes> one one of the biggest and probably most surprising things is just how seems that they have a a never ending supply of impressive pitching <hes> talent no matter who goes down in there and they're starting rotation. You have a shame bieber being the only one in there <hes> original starting five who's made every single surface season season and <hes> to have guys like errands volleys ackley zach <hes> these guys that called from triple a. that started just not long ago and and in double a <hes> to have them come up and not only just patch holes in the rotation but like drive and and really really turned heads and be super successful so bar <hes> that's been really really impressive and that's obviously helping indians tremendously getting through these bumps and bruises that they've gone through <hes>. I think the biggest thing is is jose ramirez erin you can you can start looking at his numbers right around june twentieth when he really started to heat up and and man he has cooled off <hes> they were waiting all year career as bad to come back tita would say every single day. It's going to happen guys. I'm telling you it's going to happen and when it does he'll be back and he'll be back in a very loud <hes> way and home make sure his presence is known but <hes> we just have to wait it out and he finally did and and <hes> he's been hitting around three we fifty ever since so <hes> so he's been he's probably been the biggest difference maker offensively but it just seems like this team started clicking <hes> <unk> at the beginning of june in a way that it wasn't before it really does it just it almost feels like you're watching a whole different team and i know there's some new players obviously from mill res- ios el puig and trevor bauer being gone but it it's not really the individuals. It just feels like they're playing entirely differently and it's great to see i think this is just such a fun division asian race to be watching and i've really enjoyed. I mean the the n._l. Central excuse me is also close but it hasn't been as exciting of race to me. This is like pick two teams that really want it and two teams that we haven't seen win a world series and a long time and we're really hoping to see them one of them get there and do that so you mentioned a lot of guys on the indians who are really contributing the death. Not the pitching death is really interesting. I heard you mentioned yesterday. I'm we'll be network as well and you know. I don't think anything that people were talking about with the indians entering the air. I don't think that people are looking at guys'll exactly zach or anyone else and i think it's been really cool to see them succeeding and really helping in carry this team who else is coming. We know they've had some injuries as anyone working their way back. What i know corey kluber pitching a game yesterday. Do you have any results on what happened happen there yeah he <hes> he did pretty well. <hes> yesterday another were they were shooting for him to get up to about sixty five pitches. He ended up coming. It's six p._m. Which i'm sure they were pleased with and <hes> he gave up just two hits and <hes> one of the things solo homer and that was really so <hes> includes. We'll we'll be chatting with with tito later today here how he came through physically but if you look at that stat line you have to be pretty excited if you're the indians to see that uh i mean obviously we don't exactly second of all you have all these guys who've been able to come up and fill in the holes but <hes> i it's hard to replace the guy like corey kluber but no matter what that's where before he went down i so <hes> they have to be pretty. <hes> pretty excited to be getting closer to the end of the end of the tunnel here with him into get him back in the rotation <hes> i would assume there's there's i mean there's definitely going to be another rehab. Start trying to get that pitch account a little bit higher but i don't know how many homemade after one more as far as well and he said it's getting over eighty pitches in his next one in this could be close to the end so they might be able to get him back toward the toward the end of august and and and now you have <hes> carlos carrasco also starting adding to ask i mean he's getting the edge like crazy. He's been asking <hes> tito and his coaching staff if he can get back on <hes> the mountain safe live hitters this friday and and he was like that's still to be determined we have so much medical clearance basically to go through to be able to allow him to do this type of stuff but just the fact that he's just so excited for it. <hes> just thought that was just tremendous and he was in a better just also excited with every step that that cross oh could make after getting diagnosed back at the beginning of june for sure and i feel like that's exactly what you want out of a competitor and obviously that's more complicated you know i'll stint injury injury. Whatever you want to say it's not quite an injury then what these teams are used to dealing with but <hes> it's good to hear that he really wants to be back and i think that for kluber kluber especially in for crass goes well. I think that it's so good for the indians because teams can't make trades in august anymore right and we're seeing how this new d._f._a._s. a guy. He gets released a team signs him. How that process is going but those aren't the corey kluber of the world. You know those are definitely different kinds of players. Some of them had have been great and still could harness that but they're certainly not corey kluber in his prime right now and it's like this added special weapon or whatever else that the the indians have that they're going to get this guy back. Ideally you know at some point over these next few weeks or month or whatever it is and no other team can really do that other guys who have someone teams. They have someone injured like that. So obviously that is something that is not taken into account by playoff odds or anything else but fan right now has the twins at sixty two percent to win the division vision and the indians at thirty eight percent. Both teams are ninety five plus percent to make the playoffs. I think that at this point it really looks like they're both going to be there. Which you know wasn't necessarily how it looked in back to the point of the turnaround. But what do you think is going to happen here. I mean you know none of us has a crystal ball but it's been so much fun to watch. I just wanted to like come down to the last day. But what do you think it's so tough i mean i it's funny to to look back with young players. <hes> just short months ago <hes> i think ninety four four point five for the twins to take it and i was able to scratch and claw their way back into <hes>. It's been fun run to be able to witness. <hes> it's tough. I think a large part of it's going to depend on as corey. Kluber is completely healthy <hes> and he's going to babble to come back and and be able to be plugged into this rotation and stay <hes> stay pretty. I mean what his rehabs are shown so you can look back and translate ah the big league level whenever he gets back. I think that'll be a big pickup. Comedian like you were saying it's almost like a trade deadline. Pick up a little bit late <hes> for them because they've gone without him so long and they're getting an eight caliber so pitcher <hes> i think they have a good shot. I remember sitting in the press box talking with people <hes> toward the end of june and you're looking connec- and they'll and they were making this run and they were starting to chip away and and their odds were still like an eleven percent. I'm i'm thinking and i i know that it's it's unlikely but i'm definitely closer to like twenty twenty five percent at this point and now they've made it as as far as they have <hes> i. I think it's something that's gonna come down to the final the the final week or two just because you still have six games between these two teams and and i yes i don't i don't know if i see sweets coming in those so i it's hard to gain a tremendous amount of ground and i said a lot of back and forth between those two series that are still remaining so because because of that <hes> it could it could be it could be extremely extremely interesting so <hes> if i had to predict right now i think think indians have something have something special going right now where it just seems like they're the underdog team and yeah they fellow half game back after last night but i i just i could see them just sneaking in at the last moment. They seem to really really like these games. I mean my clemenger said the actor the weekend in minnesota <hes> said it's gonna sound sort of nurses cystic but we're really enjoying these these playoff atmosphere style games. He's extremely important game. <hes> mm games where you get a taste of october and august because that honestly ever since i've been here we haven't had to do this cruise through the al central and <hes> i mean and that's that's a tough thing to be able to cruise through the season and then have to get entered into really really. I mean obviously challenging games when you get into the playoffs so they're getting tested tested a little bit early in the and i think this team likes it. I think this team likes to be the underdog and i think they have a really good shot at making a glass moment and taking the division yeah yeah i think it's going to be a lot of fun to watch down the stretch and can follow mandy retail work on m._l._b. Dot com at mandy bell. Oh two on twitter mandy. Thank you so much for joining me. This was awesome yeah. Thanks so much for having me. This is a lot of fun jumping into the numbers evaluating millions of leeches. The data the cincinnati by two hundred points this is his hembo knows joined now by call him bikita a segment producer for guetta <unk> e._s._p._n. And my former colleague in the research department he has in how you doing. I'm bob sura. It's good to hear your voice and this is. I think buster's the teacher he left. He left the classroom. We locked the door and we're just we're just put partying on the inside laying waste to <hes> <hes> all the snacks and the closet but it's good to be with you and i'm looking for jim johnson baseball with the done for for so many years yeah. It's like a little elastic m._l._b. Meeting right here so let's get into our game of the day to start with so we saw the red sox obviously pretty crazy game. We saw them use native all day who was supposed to start today and we saw indra cash to save but obviously the most impressive thing to me in. That game was rafael devers. What did you think of his performance. Field beverage can hit with his eyes close. Yesterday he became the third player in the last ten years to produce five to strike hits in a game and in that respect denver's might be the most improved hitter and all all of baseball sarah. He's improved his batting average by eighty. Five percentage points the the largest mark by any player at about at least three hundred times in each of the last two seasons and that's largely largely because of improvements with two strikes cut his strikeout rate by eight point four percent which is also the biggest year-over-year improvement among all hitters in that group yeah. He's been so impressive and you know something that sort of sums up. The kind of human side of everything you were just saying is i remember. I think it was an e._s._p._n. Game i actually might not i've been but there was a game that he played a couple of weeks ago. Where he was an account and might have been a two strike count. He stepped out of the box for a second. You took this big deep breath and it was like one of those things that kind of went viral on twitter because it was like all right i'm here i got this and like. I don't think we saw that from him. Last year i mean i think that that's the maturity a little bit. What would you think doc. No i agree with you. I think his improvements against same sightedness as bad a platoon advantages previously did and is improvements to strikes have enabled him to become an absolute superstar. You watch this guy play play in the minor leagues. When he was younger he had the elite bat speed he always had the tools is batting. Practice is about as good as anybody in the big leagues but be able to put it together at the age of twenty two which is a shame that the red sox don't any good if he it like this last year they would have one hundred hundred days probably yeah. Can you imagine that i mean it's really something and he's also crushing the ball. I mean if you look at he leaves. The majors injures in hard hit balls which balls with ninety five plus mile in our exit loss. If you look at is baseball savant page right now everything having to do with exit falsity hard hit rate expected acted staff which are based on quality of contact. It's all all the way read on those little sliders that tell you if they're being poor average or great so he is absolutely you can tell that his berta interrupt you but you can tell that his hand i is about as good as it possibly gets like his bat to ball skill and his hand eye coordination has to be elite. I mean he's you know ted williams but it's it's it's it's like sort of in that neighborhood in terms of his pitch recognition and his willingness let the ball travel. He's been outstanding and the other thing is done is his defense has looked a lot better. I mean i know that when he got called up we heard a lot that he was not going to be a third baseman for long in the majors that this was not where they saw him that this was likely going to sort of position him out at the major league level and he hasn't been outstanding but he's been good and i read some really good place sure. He's not fred astaire but you know he's not. He's not rookie grow in broad either over a third base yeah yeah so another group of guys that we've seen really succeed this. Year are the dodgers starting pitching so you know i remember reading reading in the fan. Grasp <unk> projections. Excuse me entering the euro steamer projections all of that that they're pitching rotation was projected to be better than last year when it was already really good and potentially one of the absolute best ever. So what have you seen from that time. When league-wide slugging is tracking toward its second highest mark ever the dodgers starting rotation is just silly as you said that group owns a a two point eight nine earned-run average lowest in the majors by nearly half a run point four nine to be exact there are over the last twenty years the only starting rotation with a better margin of of its kind was the two thousand sixteen cubs they of course won the world series but perhaps more impressively dodgers starters are allowing nine point six baserunners per nine innings on pace to the lowest mark in a season during the live ball era they would break the record held by one thousand nine hundred sixty five version of the dodgers and that team received seventy six percent of it starts from don andre deal sandy koufax in close teams when you boil it all together. It's hard to see this team stumbling before the world series given the run prevention and base runner allowance of the best starting rotation yeah it's interesting you know i i've been so impressed by walker bugler first and foremost he's absolutely carrying them if you ask me ryu has been great but obviously we've seen him out for a couple of weeks now with an injury and you know hopefully he'll be back soon. I don't remember what the last update on that wasn't. Clayton kershaw is like a whole different pitcher now right and walker buehler's like what you expect expect out of her really good rotation. He strikes out and he's absolutely dominant. The variance of pitcher in that rotation is what i think makes the most dangerous they're effective but they're all effective and fairly different front ways you know like so in in a in a postseason series for example that might provide the dodgers a leg up over a team like the astros obviously cranky fairly crafty when you go in orlando and garrett cole back to back nature seeing similar stuff from the same side the dodgers the dodgers have sort of <hes> this rotation out to be really challenging for opponents to lock in because those guys are so different and equally effective. How would you compare them to the nationals in that way well. It's a really good question. I think when it's all things being equal in both when both rotations are healthy it's hard it's hard to take anybody other the national because they missed so many bats and that's really what matters but again there's there's really only three guys guys in the rotation that i trust much and lord. Don't trust the bullpen a wick so if we're just we're just going to throw these charges against each other. That will be a really really fun series. I hope we get it yeah. That would be so much fun. I would absolutely love that with everybody healthy and everybody they're moving to your favorite team the phillies so we talked about this with buster earlier. Obviously they made a coaching change yesterday. Charlie manual is now the hitting coach taking over for john molly and charlie manila seventy five years old. He won two pennants with the team including world series in two thousand and eight. What was your opinion when you it's all this cross and saw this news. Yes the fire their hitting coach but i would argue that he would still be employed. If andrew mccutchen was still in the lineup everyday mccutchen was thriving in the leadoff spot for the phillies donate thirty four oh p._m. At some of his injury on june third in fact only eleven players had reached base more times than he did through that date but since their phillies leadoff hitters on the second worst batting line in the majors as measured by weighted on base which sort of explains why gape kappler inserted bryce harper atop lineup on friday. I've been on record thing. I don't think they gave kappler's. Where's the man for this job but when you add bryce harper when you add j._t. Real muto jeans aguirre and they're having the worst seasons that they've had in several years coupled with the andrew mccutchen injury and obviously the unfortunate the incident involving oduber herrera. This phillies lineup have been a disaster frankly. I think a lot of folks are entering the season at a chance to leave the national league in runs a myself included since this mccutchen injury drew there in the bottom third in the national league in most offensive categories and especially in a ballpark like that just isn't good enough. Yeah i remember saying the oxygen them mccutchen was one of the best acquisitions initiative they had made that was even before harper but i would say even still after that and you know he was honestly the big outfielder that they got in a lot of ways and he hasn't missed a lot of time in his career and now he's missing all of this time and it's been a real real issue for them. What are you stink of. Just the you know seventy five year old hitting coach and we have an eighty two year old pitching coach and you know in flushing and obviously you know the mets pitching has been better since he took over now. You know that may be law of averages that may be that they kind of all just need some time to get into a groove. You can't necessarily say that it's been him but it has been concurrent with his time there so you know there shouldn't be any sort of ageism if you ask me but it is interesting when you think about this era of all of these excuse me all all these numbers. You know we're talking about so many different kinds of stats. I mean you even said things like swing and miss you know we could see that in the eighties but now we can quantify if i that right so my opinion is that it's not just any 75-year-olds hitting coach charlie manual. He's one of the most respected hitting people over the last thirty or forty years even though as a manager so he left a lot to be desired in philadelphia in some ways we know the players loved him and jim thome swears by an he. He claims that you know put put him in the hall of fame. There are a lot of others with stories similar to that. My opinion is that in today's day and age a lot of these guys have their own hitting instructors. They have their own hitting guys their own hitting people right so charlie manual isn't there to necessarily teach bryce torpor ahead a breaking ball. He's there to fine tune some some nuance with a lot of these players and frankly just to provide a new voice. That's really all it is in my judgment. I don't really expect back to spark their lineup in a way but you never know. There's plenty of talent in this lineup. Perhaps even if the phillies front office diagnosed one thing that they can improve in pro twice they can sort of allowed to trickle down to charlie manual it could help by five percent in a national league wild card race that hotly contested that five percent could make a considerable the difference especially the phillies pitching can find a way to turn it around to all of a sudden. You have something there yeah. I'm really sentimental so part of why i like it. Ultimately is just like why not bring being back a guy who was already a special advisor but a guy who had all of this championship experiencing you know success with the team. Why not have some of the younger guys can get that that you know get that perspective. I mean scott king or as somebody who's really guys they weren't they were probably baseball. Fans like us watching when that team won the two thousand eight world series they scott from arizona who wasn't necessarily watching or not team so i think it's called molly excuse me and if molly was guy long-term then there's no time like the present just to get rid of him if he was going to be you know who's a lame duck coach anyway and it was going to be fired at the end of the season or lecco or whatever the reassigned whatever the case may be there really is no reason to allow him to allow this lineup to keep floundering for the last third of the season like that makes no sense so i guess they wanna give kappler chance to see this thing through you. Make an ancillary change like this one. Who knows maybe it could kick start something at the very least it's good public relations for the phillies for a couple of weeks and lord knows they could use a little bit of that yeah. I hello thank you so much for <hes> for joining me. This is a lot of fun. It's a pleasure. I just hope someday. When you're running the mets you remember number me and you'll get your coffee or something. Please fans. You know what i'm saying here. I am go. Thank god sakes all the copier bleacher tweets. This is sarah. Check out what the people are saying with some bleach tweets first from andrew desalvo who writes over under eighty one and a half wins for the boston red talks at the end of the season. I think we have to go over. I mean i'm still not really convinced that this red sox team is going to make the playoffs but it just feels like they're going to catch etched fire a bit here at some point and at least get to a point where they win. Maybe eighty five ish gain something like that so under under eighty one and a half feels a little too too pessimistic for me. I'm with you on that one from eric ratzinger. Let's see eric. Rats are yeah handles at eagle eric. Oh four. I like that better in this central race. Who do you see winning the division. My hometown cubs brewers or cardinals. It's been up and down most of the season with the division lead yeah. This has been an interesting one for me. All year i keep saying that you keep expecting the cubs to run away with it and they haven't yet and it's so so shocking to be with all the talent on that team that being said i think they will win it mostly because i i the brewers. They have a negative run differential. It's minus twenty two right now. It's really hard to see them winning that and the cardinals didn't do anything the deadline and it just feels like they're almost living on allah. All of it borrowed time to in a way so i do think the cubs will win it but i will say that nobody is convinced me yet in that division all right a counter intuitive idea from mike hubbard who writes would moving the walls back in all parts make the game more exciting less home runs and potentially more extra base hits. It's an interesting one. I mean i you you know. I think that one thing we've definitely seen is that people do enjoy watching the home runs. There've been whatever conversations about the quantity of home runs. We've seen this year but you know. I think people on the guys crowd around the basis. I would like to more triples. I like speed but i think ultimately the most exciting thing is probably the home runs from brian capri no the n._l. L. rookie of the year race is tight right now. It'll be tough to pick between teas and alonzo but why isn't brian reynolds getting any love he's hitting three thirty eight on the air and his on on base percentage is third in the n._l. Could you see him sneaking into the mix. He's definitely been a good hitter. I remember talking with case law on here about a month ago about him and how his expected did stats kind of matches real stats to show that maybe he isn't going to cool off but you know he's certainly not in the bigger market. We're not necessarily hearing quite as much about him but he's having a great season entrees going to get a lot of votes another guy put that mixes mike saroka who's i think probably going to finish third between alonzo and tizi and finally from mitchell who writes which n._l. Rotation would you choose in a short series the nationals with sherzer strasbourg and corbin or the dodgers with review bueller kershaw boy. It's such a toss up right now. How because each of those has one guy on the injured list right so you can't even go oh well scherzer's hurt so i would go with the dodgers or vice versa because we're you and shares are both right now but hi almost will go the nationals guys only because we've seen kershaw's still good but he's not quite the same clayton kershaw anymore and we know about the postseason struggles and reuse a little a bit unproven as well. I think the nationals and keep those bleacher tweets coming. That is the way to get your voice heard on this podcast. All you have to go to twitter sent a tweet use the hashtag bleacher tweets. That'll do it for us. Thanks so much to buster only a first time guest on his own podcast pretty cool moment mandy bell from m._l._b. Dot com talking about the indians in paul hembekides talking about a bunch of stuff a segment producer with e._s._p._n. I'm sarah lanes. Thank you so much for listening for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all gas at e._s._p._n. Dot com slash pod separate baseball tonight the podcast.

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The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap

10:50 min | 1 year ago

Alex Speier, Boston Globe

"This sporting life on e._s._p._n. Radio and the e._s._p._n. App here's jeremy schaap alex fires eighty covering the boston red sox organization from top to bottom for more than a decade. He's been at the boston globe last four years and his new book is home grown own how the red sox built a champion from the ground up in particular about the twenty eighteen season which resulted in the red sox fourth world series stories championship since two thousand four alex fired joins us now alex. Thanks for being with us. Thank you very much jeremy. What is it been like for you. Watching coaching these players these homegrown players as you call them rise up through the red sox system to the point which last year they won the world series with a not you could call the greatest red sox team of all time it was pretty fascinating my m- my coverage of them has been kind of from from the beginning of their entry into the professional ranks in so getting to know these guys who are you know whether they're coming out of high school or whether they are coming over to the states from aruba in the case of a vendor bogart's <hes> <hes> or the dominican in the case of of rafael devers and <hes> seeing them kind of grow as people it it makes sense. There's this kind of there was this kind of interesting narrative arc <hes> did that existed with them and it wasn't always just kind of a singular direction that that are took a required them required the kind of building attention in in the they had to confront failure in dramatic fashion <hes> it was it was pretty poignant at different times so <hes> last year was was really fascinating because i had this long standing standing beliefs <hes> that they were very talented but you also have to be mindful that it's easy to overestimate prospects <hes> until they've actually performed <hes> and so you saw the pieces coming together over time but <hes> for it to come together as it did last year was was pretty remarkable given their individual and collective back stories but then again. It's also been kind of interesting to watch it. Take a turn in a different direction for the red sox and twenty nine hundred we're speaking with alex fire his new book about the red sox homegrown how the red sox built a champion from the ground up and as i said you've been covering this team <hes> from its grass roots all the way to the major league level for more than a decade. If you had to pinpoint a couple of decisions that over the course last decade <hes> bore for the most fruit with that championship last year and those one hundred eight regular season victories what would they be. I think starting point has to be the two thousand eleven draft ask and really the the way that the red sox approached the major league baseball draft before the twenty twelve collective bargaining agreement. <hes> was instituted in wiped out the ability. Oh you've teams to spend like crazy as much as they wanted to. On amateur talent the red sox were incredibly. I think pretty insightful pretty forward thinking <hes> starting under theo epstein about recognizing that there was no such thing as too much investment in amateur talent because of the potential return on the dollar that it could ah could mess him and so in two thousand eleven the red sox loaded up on picks at a time when that was possible <hes> and they scouted incredibly heavily recognizing using that maybe if they were to show quote unquote overpay some guys a little bit later in the draft they would have a chance to accumulate talent that might not exist again. The results of that draft was <hes>. It was a a kind of extraordinary hall in the first round. They got matt barnes who was a critical relief. <hes> you know relief contributed championship. Jackie bradley jr. the two thousand eighteen teenage c._s. m._v._p. <hes> they also had a couple of other <hes> solid picks winds up being big leaguers and henry owens and ultimately proved disappointing. They have some bad picks. A guy who ended up being arrested in the seventh round after they had paid him seven hundred sixty thousand dollars and then cody gluco <hes> but then they also had be a couple of extraordinary finds most notably mookie betts in the fifth round at that time and i it was it was a contentious negotiation process or at least a difficult negotiation process <hes> almost resulted resulted in that's going to college but at the eleventh hour or more precisely eleven thirty pm on finding deadline day <hes> movie about agreed to sign with the red sox and ends this little five foot nine one hundred fifty pound kid who they thought had a chance to be more than what most of the scouting community thought he could be ended up being more than the red sox thought he could be their remarkable. <hes> the player that mookie betts has become it. You also point out in the book that you know you need the brakes to go your way you so you need things to develop in a way that no one can necessarily foresee <hes> and you talk about how things might have gone another direction. <hes> there was a near tragedy for some of these players when they were in the minor leagues in on a road trip and i think back to you know <hes> it's even more remarkable with red sox done considering that one of the prize one of the most prized <hes> young players in their system ryan westmoreland <hes> suffered a tragic brain aneurysm <hes> more complicated than that and his career came to an end very suddenly. How does how does randomness play into this so heavily. It's <hes> importantly there. Bryan moreland was you know was described by many people as the most talented young player <hes> the most talented teenager from the state state ever seen <hes> at least in the red sox organization over a span of decades and you're absolutely right there are these kinds of incredibly unpredictable elements it are you know the the account for not just not just baseball development but also life <hes> and that impacts ultimately what a what a team is building towards and who they're going to be able to build forward with <hes> <hes> there. Was you know there there were these near there was just near bus accident that occurred <hes> back in <hes> back in two thousand fourteen it would have you know that would have <hes> significantly. They could've significantly in altered careers or lives of a number of people who are involved there are <hes> there are off field matters such as depression and executive did exist and that affects whether or not a player is going to be able to fulfill their projection there are doubts that you know that are normal with anyone in any profession vich suddenly take talent and <hes> in cause it to erode and prevent players from <hes> from realizing what would their natural abilities perhaps might suggest <hes> so there there are any number of factors. There has to be an incredible amount of luck in terms of forecasting <hes> in terms of poor testing personality types after all. You're you're taking your you're spending you know sometimes millions of dollars sometimes tens of millions of dollars in the case of someone like you on moncada making a bet on that a guy who shows unimpressive personality as an eighteen year old is going to remain a driven focus professional as a twenty three year old. I'd know about you jeremy. I changed a lot. I mean does they. Just i don't know if i would have made too many successful bets on my future personality at the age of eighteen but <hes> there's there are so many uncontrollable uncontrollable elements that have to go into the building of a farm system which is part of the reason why you know kind of getting numbers is really important. You have to be able to have this this deaths of prospects in order people twit stand <hes> attrition bit exists in any number of fashions to a prospect core steve without spire about his new book homegrown on how the red sox built a champion from the ground up about the team that constituted that marketable <hes> that remarkable club that won in the world series last fall after winning hundred eight games in the regular season and this was a team of <hes> you know playing for new manager <hes> there was attention which you've documented in the book in twenty seventeen to put it mildly between dave dombrowski who runs the club <hes> and and john farrell so who is the manager at the time what bringing in core how did that change things well. I think that culture is critical to you know to performance and that's the case in just about any operating business environment <hes> when you have you know inside of a baseball clubhouse such insular bubble in many ways <hes> if you have a false note it tends to echo throughout that just kind of bouncing off the walls of that bubble that isn't really too far as it it traps in a lot of negative negative <hes> a lot of negative energy when you have tension between your to organizational leaders inside of that bubble it tends to create <hes> it tends to create these ripples that make it. It's really hard for anyone to relax so you know the decision was made to fire john farrell which on its surface is kind of extraordinary this with someone who had won three division title and the american league east in a five year span and won the world series he was coming off a division title but it was very evident that the tension that existed between jeanne ferrell in nebraska was not going to be <hes> was not something that that the group could thrive with <hes> and so bringing in alex cora was significant both because he had he he demonstrates remarkable social intelligence the ability to connect with a number of people in a number of different ways to create an environment virement that that kind of got rid of a lot of that tension <hes> and importantly he also was able to kind of modernize the thinking of the red sox especially at the field level so <hes> he is someone who came from the houston astros organization that had moved forward move forward in many ways in terms of what it was doing in terms of <hes> the application of analytics on the field i in terms of you know in terms of batters offensive approaches and defensive positioning <hes> among others among other elements and so that ability to help modernize the pets of <hes> the pats of what the red sox were doing the red sox players was also critical to unlocking another level performance above the one that they had exhibited to that point mozart fascinating look at how you build a championship team from <hes> the drafts with homegrown. I'm grown talents with a bold decision making and nobody can tell this story better than al expire covers. The boston red sox for the boston globe. His new book is homegrown. How the red sox built a champion from the ground up alex. Thanks so much congrats on the book. Thanks so much jeremy a pleasure to join neom. I'm jeremy shop and you can listen to new editions of the sporting life every saturday and sunday morning on e._s._p._n. Radio and e._s._p._n. App beginning at six a._m. Eastern time.

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 771  2020 Third Base Preview Pt. 1

FanGraphs Fantasy Baseball

1:30:00 hr | 1 year ago

The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 771 2020 Third Base Preview Pt. 1

"Episode so seven. Seventy one of the sleeper and the bus. It is Wednesday January twenty. Second I'm your host. Paul spor joined by Justin Mason. Just in what's going on. I'm in so much pain. Why is that Have you seen the the the the Joe Adele video of him doing like the six foot box jump now so he doesn't. He's doing this six foot box job at super impressive to watch and do it And for those that is it's when you jump straight up up so do it like six feet in the air I went back to the gym for the first time yesterday. In God knows how how long I sent a I sent for waitressing class sphere and okay. This will get me into the gym at least twice a week every week And Yeah We. We started with box jumps and Jodel can jump in adults and I can jump a toddler alert. Let me be clear on this when I'm seeing it now. He does get a little running jump. You can do either something with with a little speed into it or from a standstill standstill. But I will not in any way shape or form try to denigrate this by pointing that out. I just don't need you know the corrections on twitter like you said it was. This was actually but no. It's it's insanely impressive. It's a it's five five foot six basically jumps Jose altuve. Yeah and I can jump over my daughter I did my from a standstill low. I GEICO and my star. My instructor was all like. Oh I think you can do more. I'm like do you understand like I'm going to fall on on this thing he goes. It's padded I'm padded padded. But GonNa hurt if I rips I into a box double padding joining us. Don't even worry about so so I feel like I got hit by a truck. Well congrats to you though for doing it getting in there and And putting in the work mark that's awesome and good luck in only get better. That's what I hear. I mean I don't know that's what everybody says but I don't care about what what is GonNa feel like in the future because it hurts so bad right now. Sure Fair enough but Maybe I can heal you pointing out that Marcello soon got signed. I know probably not GonNa do that. But we are going to talk about that. We're GONNA talk about third base preview as well. We started our previews last time out with shortstops. Hope you guys enjoyed that. Got Some good feedback on it and Yeah we are going to dive into third base. But let's talk about the Marceau's in deal it came you know in the midst of the hall of Fame Congrats to Jeter in Larry Walker. I'm so glad Larry Walker got in. Don't care about the unanimous stuff with With jeeter moving on Marceau's we've talked about this Atlanta lineup in how it was three studs and a bunch of clowns this changes the complexion though it it is you know I think we. I don't know if it was us or different episode where we're talking about. How no one could have really flipped it if they had traded for him and and really changed the complexion action Marceau's Luna's not knowing or not but he's but he's a high caliber bat that they're putting in and it does change the complexion it? It is weird how sometimes one player can do so much because it does look a lot better now when you've got the top four so basically the top half of the lineup is really strong and then being four kind of committing mid mid level mid tier type guys The rest of the way Marquette Travis. d'arno Yawn Camargo. Dan's Swanson with guys like Tyler. Flowers Adam Adam do volunteering. CRT and Austin Riley mixing in it's not so bad now but talk about Marcella. Zona what do you think is an expectation for him coming into two thousand twenty after a pretty solid season last year that saw him fall short in batting average at two forty-three but twenty nine homers with eighty nine rabies eighty runs and and twelve steals on fourteen attempts and some stat cast metrics. That suggests that maybe that batting average could be better. How do you feel out of twenty nine year old Marcello Zona in Atlanta? I feel pretty good about it. This is a guy that I think struggled a little bit last year with injury to write like we're there were like real questions about his shoulder coming into the season. Yes I dealing with that now for two years I believe so but finished strong. Um meet except for that play in left field where he climbed the fence and then fell watching the ball hit right in front of him or not not the first time either either by. It's not the first time that he's done that. Which makes himself? He did nothing strong yet. One sixty in September so he he sputtered into into the finish line. I don't know if the shoulder was bothering him at that point the finger as well. I think it's put on the shelf Each of the last two years. But I think it's been a long term issue because In Two thousand sixteen I believe he was off to a great start. Marcellina was got hurt and still played eight hundred forty eight game so it's not like he missed a bunch of time but it was one of those where he was playing through injury and it was clear. came into two thousand seventeen healthy had his best year yet and then has had two solid solid seasons but with that injury cloud kind of looming over him. Even as he's put out some pretty decent playing time quantities there so it's interesting with Marcello and I mentioned the stat cast. We actually talking about a little bit on twitter yesterday. A group of US including column weather wax and he really likes those Oona even as he's GonNa move up because of the underlying stat cast numbers and what they suggest I do wonder though can and he fully maximized that and get back to where his batting average was in seventeen eighteen. Three twelve to eighty versus the two forty-three of this year. Or do we just take the easy way out. Mix Mix it kind of say to sixty five to seventy five range with Marcella Zuma. Yeah I think I would. I probably go to seventy two seventy five I mean obviously the Bab Scott come up but he's not necessarily the I guess he's got a career. Three Fifteen Babbitt so new strikes the ball. Well it's the ball super uber hard And like you mentioned the stack. Gas Numbers are Nice in red You know there's not much in the profile that that tells me he shouldn't be the kind of guy that we expected for a you know kind of see from him which is like a thirty home. Run Guy kind out of a thirty. He's only done one hundred remedies once but now going to bat forth with this team thirty one hundred feels like a pretty decent. You know marker for It's not much different necessarily all Kunia. I'll be streaming ahead of him so so much I get. Yeah you're right It's interesting to me because he stole a bunch of Asia's last year so fluky fluky though. Yeah because he basically doubled his total he had fourteen stone basis for his career and got twelve last year. Yeah he was twelve fourteen fourteen verified and he did it all out of the four whole And the braves are a team that likes to move it on the basepaths so I mean I'm obviously not GonNa Project Twelve again But I think he could probably comfortably project seven eight In anything on top of that greedy in that's obviously especially if you're looking to kind of accumulate your stolen bases little by little. Well as opposed to get getting some of the burners. That's a nice little bonus from a guy that traditionally doesn't steal but showed showed some speed last year I mean I think this is a yeah a little bit of a step up for ozone ah I'm not huge amount. It's KNOCKIN DOC in effect. My ranking shoe much when I finish those off here out later this week for Outfield I think what it does is. Is it changes a little bit of I mean defensively for the braves You know he's not strong. I'm in this keeps Austin Riley third or or Johann Camargo Right. Now come Argos pencil then so we don't know exactly which way they're going to go. Yeah so horribly Boca play fair so Though I mean it looks like we have Riley going back down the miners. That's what I'm saying. Well made sense because all the guys they have projected on. I'm the dench out of options. Yeah they're they're vets You know they're they're all like thirty plus so they you know they don't want to take down if If Riley has really really strong spring or something or Camargo himself falls because remember he was solid. Wouldn't D do fall. Then you know they don't or has your area those are they just they just brought career back. They like him they they I. Would I do kind of interesting to me but because he's actually sleep much better defender than I think he gets credit for But anyway yeah we'll see how that all plays out with regards to like the third base situation but now they've got an outfielder builder here and if you were kind of banking enterance yard is like a cheap speed option that is what really gets clouded here because a Kunia knows Oona Are Eating up to the spots and then Marquess inciarte hair going to kind of Battle it out for the other playing time there. We also wheels the discussion about DMZ Swanson potentially hitting the top lineup. And I think this effectively ends that yes. I would agree with that as well. it's GonNa be a Kunia Albee's Freeman Osuna or Albee's Kunia Freeman of those four. We're going to be jumbled in some way and and I think that that's going to be the primary top four for Atlanta for the bulk of the year assuming that health allows it He's at zone is at twenty nine th outfielder as of right now and and we always talk about. There's always going to be a little boost once a player. Settles and so. I think he's GonNa move up at least a couple spots that this has them at one ten right now I I think he's going to move ahead of Andrew Benintendi and Trae Mancini and just inside the top one hundred and then the discussion that we were having yesterday Started up account account whether wax was whether or not he moves into the group that includes Eddie. Rosario Lewis Robert Jeff McNeil Jorges similar and Joey Gallo which spans from eighty two to two ninety two and so I could see Zona moving into that group Collins said he would by ozone above pretty much all of them barring some He also including Ramon Laureano barring team needs of like if there's some speed me then of course Laureano and Robert Take precedent But otherwise yeah he was. He was favoring ozone out of that group. If you are looking at. Let's let's let's zero down to Gallo Solaire resort because those four have kind of a similar makeup in terms of what. You're trying to get from them. Who Do you favor the most out of that group Gallo Solaire resort and ozone I think it depends on my team construct thus far In a standalone in League Gallo. Yeah let's focus on stanton because you know the bulk of people are gonNA be playing standalone. So what you're saying it's Gallo L. A. Because I can punt batting average But Ian any sort of overall contest. NFC's unlike that I think move Louisiana ahead. Just because he's got the safer floor and I think that's a Colin was getting to And so you know. We'll see I do think he moves into that group and I'm okay with that. I've liked those I really have you know after the the twenty seven team breakout was something that I was. I was really fortunate to get a bunch of ozone. I've been kind of loving him sense. Feel like sometimes I let that carry more weight though so I was kind of pushing back on them just to check myself and no they kind of got me sold there on on some of the stuff that soon as done and and some of the expectations that we can have this year so all right. We'll keep an eye on that but let's get into third base because we got plenty to talk about here. It's different position than shortstop. There is still depth it pushes down a little bit There was a lot of depth than those in the first couple of tears that we did with the with the shortstops it it. It moves a little bit differently at third base. But there's still a lot of interesting names in the you know. Call it top. You know one One one twenty or so that you can get as you're starting third baseman. So let's start with the With the two first rounders Alex Bregman at again. NFC average drop position. I'll put the Lincoln there. You have to change it to January first twenty twenty through today's date of course being January twenty second and then draft champions and that's how you can follow along with us actually did mess up by the way when I made this list. I did move to draft champions. So it's all the draft so we're just GONNA leave it at that so for this one you can leave it to them not adjusting. All these on. The fly shouldn't change that much but I messed up my bad So anyway there's two first rounders Alex Bregman and we talked about him at shortstop won't go too deep on him around ten ano- and no one ever not around pick thirteen now. It's perfect time to do third base because of the knowing Aaron auto rumors and everything. He's pissed he is pissed and not because of trade rumors so much as just the directionless outlook of the organization. And I don't blame him dude. They I haven't done anything this year. And I think he feels duped into the contract of like. Hey you know we're going to sign you and we're going to be competitive. They are going to be doing this. You know. They don't play the they don't play the good talent they have so I guess they don't want to bring in any other talent Alan to mess up but where do you stand right now. What's known or not a with the trade rumors lurking? Obviously I think if it gets traded before the season it'll be in time for drafts. I think it would be within the next like thirty forty days. So by the time March hits we would be ready for it. But how are you you. How are you adjusting him if you are drafting in the time when he's not traded but the rumors are still percolate not on air no? I'm not adjusting him. I I think he is a hall of fame hitter No matter where he's at obviously maybe maybe the average comes down a little bit because yeah just the the home field advantage. But he's still a thirty home. Run hitter anywhere. I WANNA say it was Tom Tango. or or maybe Mike Natural Aloe like tweeted out like A list of like like the guys thirty row homerun hot guys that Like that would hit. The majority of their home runs like in every stadium and he was on that list list. Three is or something like that He he's got real power. It's not like obviously leaving. Colorado affects you. But I don't I think this fallacy that good hitters leaving in Colorado or somehow we're going to become trash bin missed proven time and time again by guys in in that holiday. It's just Jay Leno may Larry Walker. There's no backing for it whatsoever. The only two guys that we talked about this my twitter stream and I said who are they cause someone one brought it up and You know I even Vinny Castilla y you know in this is back when was really crazy. Even Vinny Castilla. It went on and continued but it just doesn't exist the only two names that they could come up with that they tried to go for Were easily shutdown. Based on the fact right that one was just pure injury Tila Witkowski and the other Carlos. Gonzales was already washed. So it's not an excuse for breaking now before he left Colorado saying I mean that's what I'm saying he was already used already broken. Meanwhile cargoes last two years with Colorado where eighty six said ninety nine. WRC plus so the fact that age thirty three. He didn't go and do something last year. That that's not a check. Mark in the he was of course is product type deal. It's just not a thing if no one aeronautic got traded really I mean there. Aren't that many. So we'll just focus on Saint Louis which is kind of like a neutral neutral park maybe even leaning a little bit pitcher friendly. I wouldn't care one percent. I would still take him in the first round not care at all. You shouldn't move him him. I mean if you want to move up you're down you know one or two spots in your overall ranks like I'm not putting him buying Bregman or condone thirty days because he leaves Colorado one more likely going to go to a really good line of anyways like you know crap team is trading for him. It's not aren't even that many would be interested. Yeah it's not like the Tigers of the giants are like like lining up the TR trade for a guy making that kind of money so I Yeah I don't I don't think I think the move on. It's it's it's Yep. Let's what's actually hope. It happens because it'll make him cheaper in the market so where we're able to get him in the second round yes. When he went with benefit we would benefit? If known are not trained. I'll take them on the wraparound for sure. Let's go into the second round. Because that's where Three gems stand by the lake quickly. While we're going to do with guys that we've talked about it in another position since we've already discussed them at the at that other position you can listen to that one. That's the case for Alex. Bregman what I will do is ask you though. Which position do you prefer him at so for Bregman? US Third Short. Where do you prefer him if you're going to draft him? Although I think we came to the conclusion yet yesterday or Monday Monday that neither of us are particularly interested in him as as the ten pick. But where would you want to slot Bregman. I mean I'll start 'em off at third base is in then move them around if I don't I mean there's just so many shortstops that I really like this year and not to say that there's not a ton of third base too do because I was actually surprised how deep third base was when I when I finished my ranks ranked fifty guys again. That being said. Yeah I'll start at third and then I'll move back and for them. A lot of these guys will be the same thing where I start them at third or second and I just move around yet I think. Ideally really you know if you're getting a ham or even Manny Machado. I'll just cut that one off real quick too because he's GonNa come up later putting him at third but having the flexibility is why part one of the reasons. You're getting those guys anyway. But let's move on to the three gems here. These guys are are definitely foundation pieces often going in the second round sometimes jumping into the first at least these first this guys. It's Jose Ramirez at eighteen. Anthony ran down at twenty one and Rafael Devers at twenty three. So it's this is an interesting group because you got Ramirez. who had that really weird ass season started off so horribly then he you went bananas? You know went super electric getting everything back on track and then got hurt to derail it and yet even with just five hundred and forty forty two plate appearances a four year low. He still put up. Twenty three homers twenty four steals and even the two fifty-five didn't kill you if considering where he was it's eight three rabies sixty eight runs. You know a lot of people if they found a decent replacement which at third base was certainly viable that roster spot that Jose Ramirez was was owning at even after you had to replace the for injury ended up being pretty strong and so that's why the market has said he's not really moving anywhere he still very high pick Rendong arguably the best year of his career endeavors with the massive breakout. So I'll just start at price. Eighteen twenty one and twenty three respectively. Who is your favorite of? This trio. Renos my favorite. I actually have him above Bregman. So it's I I know people don't like the the first year in a new park but I think he's the exception rather than the rule. That's more of a patron thing for me personally. So I I really all three of these guys a little bit. Skeptical of Jose Ramirez from A roster construction point of view because there is that risk that things go horribly wrong like they did in the second half of eighteen mhm in into the first half of nineteen almost put up a calendar year of crud like it was it was scary there for a while. What the Hell is going on so with that kind of scary floor? I'm a little skeptical of Emmy especially because because I feel like I don't. I don't trust taking a pitcher in then him because then if some if something goes horribly wrong my offense is really really kind of behind the eight ball but who are you gonNa pair them with that makes you feel super comfortable where you're going because I mean you're not you didn't typically knock it a pair him with a trainer or a legacy which covers story that would be interesting Comparing him with like a tray Turner though or Trevor Store with. That'd be so I think he'll want Soto. I just didn't know better so similar Turner for in the speed for though. Yeah I'm okay. I'm okay with that because now going on power for you may be but it's only your first two picks and we got sick a pitcher your soon then too. That's okay that's okay. You know you get repeat Alonzo next and then a and a pitcher or pitchers and beat you know. I don't mind that because you know because I do feel like you can get pitching late. So then you could you know you could take like Darvish Severino With your five six are sorry for four or five kind of pick. So yeah I I'm I'm probably I think especially my big money leagues. I'm probably a little scared to Ot Ramirez. But if I see him drop I'm not gonNA run away But I think I'd rather have setis I'd rather have a ren down that who are both going by rather have no. I think I'd rather think rears over diverse but it's close close I have read ranked higher than Ramirez. Let's talk about divers. Had the big breakout season as one of those guys that you know if if you if you loved him going into eighteen you should have stood by him he did. He didn't do great you know. He's actually pretty mediocre but he was twenty one and and don't run away from the prospects that you love because their first year doesn't quite pan out. He also acknowledged that body shape. This was the best shape of their life. Thing that panned out out because it is a cliche and it's funny to kind of talk about it in joking manner but a lot of times. It's it's really good to. It's really positive for guys to slim down. Get their fitness in order. And he said he was carrying extra weight started working out with J. D. and beds and all of a sudden you know he was in the shape that he needed to be to have a huge huge huge season with the bat. Three eleven three sixty one five fifty five with thirty two homers one hundred fifteen rabies hundred twenty nine runs Jesus this for Rafael Devers and eight stolen bases now. He was eight for sixteen is brutal on the basis for his career. He's sixteen for twenty seven. So Oh I think aids about the Max you can get. I think you'll continue to be like a five to eight. SORTA guy is still going to you. Know get those tack on Bases But If he if he drops a zero to one season I wouldn't be surprised. So don't weigh those stolen bases too heavily when you're when you're taking also getting in a kick in steals because if they just flat out Red Red light at him read let him. I don't know put red light on him. I would not be surprised because he it doesn't really know what he's doing there on the basis but as far as diverse follow up because now he's surged into the same cost range of Ramirez down and and he's gone past. Our next group has a lot of more established guys if this scenario fits and all the other guys are gone and it say twenty seven twenty eight so a few picks password Devos's normally going. Do you jump in absolutely gorgeous. Stack has stage. You see a lot red especially in a category That you wouldn't necessarily expect from a diverse. Because he would the the real question with him wasn't whether he was gonna hit is whether he could play third base or not and is out above average ninety second percentile. Like that's huge. That's that that saying. He was an elite defender in the field last year. And I mean you know the eye test Kinda shows it. I mean he's always had an arm arm Just the weight loss really helped him. His exit velocity went up about a mile and a half per hour in the top six percent of the league last year his ex batting average top seven percent newly glass. You're hardly percentage top nine percent of the League I think he is a slight launch angle adjustment in on talking like slate away from being a forty home run guy and I think that's going to be one one of my my bold predictions this year is that Devas Hits Forty home runs. I'm going to have the prediction where he hits. Forty two home runs so that'd be cool I'm just two and a half forty three. No no no well accusing us of stealing their game of chicken. Not Stealing anything I believe I believe in Danvers. Yeah they do and I liked the way they do it. And they'll they'll put something out there and then they'll keep going keep going and you can tell when it's like one of their favorite players and and the other one doesn't WanNa buckle and the other one's just trying to get him to say something stupid. Yeah like go to fifty. Four home runs for Mike Mustafa's or something so no. We're not playing that right now because they have cool music with it to check out the podcast but Denver's breakout. I believe in it. Sounds like you do too. We're comfortable taking him there And and I have no problem with it. He does belong in that group. Now we jumped down. I named the meat and potatoes to hear though because it's tardy stick. There's a lot of folks folks in there You can kind of get whatever you want. I guess the only thing you can't really get out of this speed but if you're looking for speed at third base you're you're in the wrong spot anyway anyway. Outside of like Ramirez as far as the top goes so just a lot of interesting haters. Here we'll start at the top Vlad. Junior fifty five Kris Bryant fifty five as well a Suarez. Sixty Manny Machado sixty one. Dj Lemay Sixty Four. y'All MONCADA sixty eight. Max muncie Seventy Eight Jeff Rafael eighty-seven and Matt Chapman also eighty seven. And so you know runs about thirty picks so it's two two rounds worth and and You know we got a big group here. Let's just start off the top. I probably end up talking about all of them. But who is your absolute favorite at their price. Who at the price? Probably Max Muncie. Maximum seventy eight. I webex triple eligible for second. Third may pickup outfield at some point. he's just so underrated underrated. I don't understand why these going Twenty picks below like Kris Bryant. And Vlad granted Sir It's he's in a great lineup He's GonNa he's GonNa hit. You Know Really Nice spot in that lineup. He has proven at this point. That the breakout in two thousand eighteen was legitimate. No reason to think he can't continue it. I ranked him ninth at Third Base. And I'm already regretting ranking him so low I ranked sixth disabling next night less. I think he should be six. and May put what I'm seventy nine swore as because I do love whereas especially in that park in that lineup. That's getting better and better but Yeah I think Muncie is is like the steel of third base Elise in you know top ten. Yeah with it within within this group of I was going to be another guy. So yeah within this group of guys. Who are you? Know Bankable Stars studs pretty much all these guys that we've mentioned mentioned. So far are stud level players. I agree with you one hundred percent on the month. He stuff the triple j ability I think gets a little underplayed. That's valuable in every every league format where you can where you can move him around like that in the off in the infield first second third. For Max Muncie. So I won't just repeat what you said fully agree. Who at their price in this group? Are you like no way Jose I think i. It's probably Brian Brian. I just injuries were seeking. IS HE GONNA be in Chicago. You'RE GONNA end up somewhere else. Uh what what if I remove that second one. Let's just put that like okay. 'cause by the way we we talked about the grievance you lied to everybody and I I was wrong. I I yeah I I apologize. So the grievance he's GonNa lose the grievance so might as well I mean they're not going to go against the the. CBI is going to have two years left with them. Let's just for the record right now for the for the sake of an argument to say that he won't be moved. Does that loosen your position a little bit or you still just a little uneasy about Bryant and if so why day at fifty five by the way is really shouldn't be uneasy about him because I mean I guess this is similar to like a seger situation where he's only got the one year where he really missed time. Well I guess he just a little bit of time last year but very little. I don't know something I don't feel like he's super special anymore. I understand the feeling that you're having by the way and I can't crystallize it either either but I get exactly what you're saying. Now I should mention third base and outfield for Kris Bryant. So you get that little extra bit of eligibility which I do favor But I don't know I find myself in the same kind of like I. Dunno unimpressive stack stuff. I mean is exit velocity ause the is twenty third percent hard. Hit percentage twenty fifth percentile X.. Batting average twenty six percentile is X.. Batting average last this year was to forty six So I mean outperformed his metrics There but I mean he still walks oxman three two on base percentage He makes you know a fair amount of contact. Like it's. I probably shouldn't shouldn't be as wary as I am And maybe this is one of those things where it's a gut feeling More than it is based in facts of do what what you will with that. But I just I scared to pay the price on him. I feel like he should be going in the Matt. I Chapman or below territory. And he's not just yeah. I think there's some name value that carries Brian and higher. I think one of the things that that worries me on him is that he's perceived I believe as as like a full on mid lineup bopper when really he's more of a like batting average runs scored guy who what happens to hit for some power and power is not lame or anything especially got back last year thirty one homers. He doesn't have more than seventy seven rabies in the last three years. One of those is is an injury season but the two others are perfectly full years. Even last year's miss time still one hundred forty seven games six hundred plate appearances I know part of that is where he bats bats. That's number two but I don't know man like two eighty thirty seventy five hundred hundred at pick fifty five for some reason. That's not giving me the warm and fuzzy so I actually fully agree with you. On Brian's Situation Situation Bryant finished thirteenth at the position last year on a really nice bounceback season. So I think that backs up what we're talking about here because he's going off as is the seventh guy if he were thirteenth. That's where Jeff McNeil is who has the same. ADP Matt Chapman the Guy who said that. That's the range that you should be around. So I think we're in lockstep and I think we're justified in that so I wouldn't want Kris Bryant at his price here either. Let's talking about the others Vlad Junior Not to the level of Denver's but he failed. He failed his expectations of the first year and they were very very very very very lofty and he ended up being pretty with a two seventy to fifteen divers went outside the top. Two hundred. And Vlad glad has gone up. DENVER's may not actually gone outside of the top two hundred. You went down pretty. It's pretty cool. Yeah like he was cheap he was somebody yeah. I was beating the drum on last year. Like hey people have given up on him. It might not have been two hundred but it's definitely outside the top one hundred. I think with regularity and so with lead junior not really catching discount. I understand it but at the same time. What are you doing with it are you? Are you paying it no. I'm not saying I'M I. I may get one share somewhere in like best ball. Type thing Just to sit just get e Sharyn Casey does. He's obviously got all the talent world and he's got the the whole best shape of his life thing going on right now You Know He. He learned where the weight room was because apparently when they gave him the quarter now of yet they just forgot to tell him that there was a weight. Room INS Rana So Ah there's there's I understand why people are buying in I just think he's going way too high for a guy. I really failed in every regard last year And the sack numbers are mia six percent launch angle. Eighty nine percent exit velocity last year like a thirty eight percent hard. Hit percentage fifty percent are forty six percentile. Ask You I mean. There's not a ton other than prospect pedigree and some really nice workout videos and powder Blue Jerseys Rosie's to tell you that it should be much better now. I think he should be better. It's another league. Getting used to Major League pitchers it's a great place. Did I like what they're doing. Toronto but taking him in the top fifty or sixty picks is just seems like insanity insanity to me. When you've got all these guys who have huge trackers I mean even if let's say lead Guerrero does what we he can do and he is like two ninety thirty home runs? I mean isn't that just what Kris Bryant can do or Like why is he going ahead of those guys. I understand that and like I get wanting wanting to kind of root for them and see a big season this year but he has to do it at this price right. There's there's there's no wiggle room so it better there'd be this year or else he's disappointing again as far as As far as we're talking about with blood fled junior. So I'm with you there and I'm not necessarily going to have any shares. I think not with the way third base shipping up. You mentioned as far as earlier when talking about Muncie and how they're they're kind of similar and I agree with that. I think that's that's an interesting comparison. There he had an amazing year popped out forty nine homers to seventy one three fifty eight five seventy two for Suarez. He's added homers literally every year of his career. Some of that was adding playing time but the last four years is playing. Time has really kind of you know lived kind of a tight range in fact it went down from seventeen to eighteen. And he's still added homers. He did add about fifty four plate appearances last year but he jumped up fifteen eighteen homers. So that's not why volume is not why Suarez has continued to add home runs. Forty nine what do you got firm as projection this year. I mean obviously. I think it's coming down. What does do it for him is his barrel percentage the the fourteen percent a barrel percentage which is like Top seven percent in the League obviously playing where he he plays in. Great American ballpark helps but he more home runs on the road. So it's not the only reason it helps I think he's probably probably like a mid thirties or even upper thirties home. Run Guy this year. love the ballpark again. Like the team and what what the reds are doing for the lineup Construction as well so I think he's going. I'm to have another really really nice year and I don't think people give him enough credit. Yeah I think he has a little but I mean it's ADP says the people you know understand as far as good. I guess pick sixty. We want to go too far and they're not giving him credit but he's been really good now. I for several years by the way. Just want to close the loop on something one. Thirty eight was the average trap position of Rafael Devers last year with a high of two of four so there were times he was going Outside the top two hundred but even buck thirty seven. It was down from one. Oh six the year before. So he lost two rounds based on his meanwhile As I'm talking about Vlad has either held steady gone up. It's tough to kind of judge. ADP because remember he had the really high eighty then he got hurt and it came down. So if you're comparing pairing to draft season when we knew Vlad was hurt it went down from there but if you're comparing to kind of where he was Before that it's about even or or maybe just a little lower but certainly not to rounds worth which is what what is what Denver saw so anyway. Just wanted to close the loop there. With the Vlad and Denver's comparisons Harrison but was sworn as. Yeah I mean if you just this goes back to what you were talking about. Hey saying that you might be a little bit behind on power if you took a Turner Ramirez now you'd have to fill up your corner to take more as this early but he is definitely somebody who could fill that power gap right away for you and now you're right back on track. You took a pitcher in between and then in the fourth round you take Suarez. And I don't think that you're trailing too far behind at least the the middle of your league as far as power goes and he can get you back on track there so Suarez is somebody that if you just book I think you can book. What thirty three hundred five? You've not one hundred five. He had one four one zero three the last two years. I think that team's going to get better just for the sake of not projecting something he hasn't done. Let's say thirty three in one hundred hundred. I'll take off knock off those five rb is there but with like what should we wisely book for like a two sixty five average and then take anything above. That is better. He's been better each of the last two years but I think with leading baseball and strikeouts and I feel like the batting average could be a in a little bit of danger for Suarez degree. or no I mean he is a rear three sixteen gene Babb Guy And use it three twelve last year. I don't think he'd tax. I just think it may come down. It may come down a bit planned for two sixty to sixty five. You can get a bonus on that so draft around him as a to sixty and and then if he stays where he's been the last two years to eighty three to seventy one stays in that range. Ebbing out is expanding to forty eight last year so he overperform overperform in the average department has smacked the hell out of the ball. I would say yeah. Pencil men for two sixty And then if you get anything on top of that that's crazy. Yep Yep I I agree with that all right who is next. I hear you yeah Machado. We'd prefer it third said that. So digital mayhew another triple eligible very similar to Muncie first second third. It had the big power breakout to the product. Of course you know so. You couldn't really do anything away. Probably could've gone better park as far as going you you know if you're gonNA leave coors for his skill set. This was the next best park because of his opposite field approach he could actually lean on that That that right right field wall a little bit but each phrase it everywhere he found some punch jumps from fifteen to twenty six homers. Batting average goes up to three twenty seven. He's always been a batting average guy hundred hundred and two rabies hundred and nine runs just an amazing season from eleven. Hugh what does he do from here though because now now you have to pay the premium and I'm wondering if you you want to at all I don't but I don't know why I don't like this is just you're just nervous about I don't again it's like a Kris Bryant situation where I don't have an even more so with Lemay you because you look at his stat cast categories i. I mean it's all blood red except for sprint speed. Yeah I mean it really is three twenty two x batting average bridge Top eight percent leading exit velocity hard hit percentage out above average. Whoa Baa let you name it? It's allred allred. I for some reason I just don't trust did that it's GonNa Continue. There's no reasoning. Won't like fourteen percent strikeout rate. Seven percent walk rate Maybe the power comes comes down a little bit. And he's more of a high teens low twenties guy but like there's no reason to think he's not hitting two ninety two three three hundred with runs rabies for days in that lineup. So yes this one. I don't join you on as far as having that little tinge of uneasiness easiness I'm in I ranked Lemay who has my eighth third baseman. He's going off as the tenth some a little bit ahead of the market with regards to Lemay you. He's at the top with that lineup. Literally number if batting leadoff sure. He's not going to get one hundred rabies again probably not Because it's more difficult up there. Although this lineup runs super deep I I. I'm in like I know he's GonNa be thirty one as well. Maybe that scares some folks off. I don't I don't really care like maybe I think he's older than he actually is. One League forever been around for Awhile. He's like you mean leaky. Never was supposed to have this power and then oh no not at all but a total slap at prospect but I mean he showed th I mean his exit velocity only went up like half of a mile per hour last year with the juice ball like he had this already in the bank and we just didn't realize it I mean we should have. This should have been an easy guide ago especially with our belief that we don't think that moving out of coors is going to make someone crumble. I should have been all over. Dj last year. I wasn't And it's my own dad having blinders on especially because he is so perfect for you because you can actually get some late batting batting average. He was going off the board at two eighty on average and was league with with the average sinkholes. You usually take at the very worst you you were paying his. ADP was his batting average. Nowhere he was gonNA play now rue thought he was going to be fifty billion injuries. Of course made a fulltime and now he's not going anywhere but Yeah I'm I'll pay. I'll pay the freight Lemay Hugh I'm in again. I'll make sure I get a share to a lot of guys in this tier and the next year or so sure and your ad and that makes it hard. Yeah you can't you a kick get everybody so that makes it hard. I understand but that's the trouble Jodi because yeah you can you can throw him and I hate second base. So how put Lemay who at second. I can still get another third baseman. You rely man Muncie and just and just moved is around freak weekdays. Yeah because Muncie has the power to hold. I saw you put Lemay. Second Muncie I and you can still get somebody either later or if you already had. I'd like a air. Nado Ramirez one of the top guys so I I really like You offers here. I'm in let's talk about. Your Moncada has the breakout. Season does really really well going off about sixty eight eighty p. He used a more aggressive approach to where he was swinging early. His walks took a cut but so did the strikeouts. It was still twenty eight percent but that was down from thirties. He was thirty two thirty three the two years before. This obseity lost a few walks down from ten percent to seven. But I'll take it for everything else because he was attacking early. No he had a four zero six. Bab He Tim Anderson where the Bab God's last year you're part of that is approach though right it's not just dead ass luck. That's why I you know I've said this. A Billion Times on the past helps to yes. You're rushing the ball and speed all the all the factors so it's not just some luck luckily meter that you like just because it's unsustainable doesn't mean he he didn't do anything to push it up there he's GonNa continue to be a High Bab guy not foro six. Okay so you know maybe push them down on like what three forty three fifty from Konta that can still play though and so when the power's there. He went twenty four ten with the stolen basis. He's definitely definitely a guy that has speed to do more. I wonder if they'll consider turning him loose a little bit with the speed because he's more than ten stolen base guy. I really believe whether you're looking at Sprint speed which again just done an article. That says don't get too much on speed but home to I is even more favorable for them and it's getting better every year but for some reason only twelve and ten stolen bases the last two years so I think there's actually some stolen base upside Moncada. CADA could go thirty thirty. Yeah and that's a little blurb I put in my ranks is that there is still another level. He's only twenty four four yup or just getting started. I mean he's going to turn it's his age twenty five season two thousand five season. Yeah but again this is I think I think this is a guy that could be anything. People where he's going is fine. I think it's totally fair but I also think there's another level well here so I think he could be. Yeah I think he could be. I don't know about thirty thirty but Thirty twenty you like why not like. I'm just saying like if we put the phone injuries on the table I'm thinking thirty. Five twenty AH In a dream season and while the BABBITT will definitely lower he's a high that guy anyways career three sixty nine nice So like I while obviously three fifteen like is still think he can hit two seventy to eighty And if he can add a little bit more speed in a little bit more power in age twenty five season. We're talking about a guy that is Like like a late first early second round talent and what picks sixty something just scratching the surface here with Moncada. There's just so so much talent there and this team's GonNa get better by the way so the context numbers could jump up another level. He was at seventy nine ribs. Eighty three runs. I like both of them to go up. So He's definitely somebody you mentioned about. You know why it's hard for you to get on board with some of these guys because you like others Moncada's definitely in there like Lemay human. Cottam Muncie are in order and somehow WANNA get all three and it's it's going to be difficult to put all three on the same team damn near impossible unless I jump one of them and or one of them falls and I. I don't know if I WANNA go too far and push one of them the third or fourth round so might have to just settle for two or even just one in a in a given drought like why like drafting a lot of leagues. Because now I can go. Okay this draft. I'm GonNa Take Moncada next rock. I'm GONNA take months. I yeah so I won't have the same third baseman in all forty five of my leagues this year. especially at such a deep position we already discussed Muncie big fans Definitely think he should be higher. It's going off as the twelfth third Baseman I ranked them six justin ranked them nine ride. That said he should maybe even have them higher. We love him. Jeff McNeil another triple eligible guy here. WHO ADDS in second base and outfield? He was an interesting breakout. Alex Chamberlain's Guy. Here this is this is almost Lemay Hugh ask right. I hit tool guy who of course you know leverage the Bouncy Ball last year to extract more power but also actually maybe even a lemay you plus that might be underselling a little bit because he's shown power in the minors and that was something that Alex always hinted at was. Don't sleep on this guy I know you're looking at a P P Lonzo and I get it but there was some punch in McNeil's bat in the minors including two thirty two and two ninety nine ISOS in his AAA and AA stops in two thousand eighteen so he was already hinting at some punch had a nice little sample back in two thousand eighteen and then had the full breakout season this year. What to expect out of Jeff McNeil in Twenty only twenty? That's a very good question. I like McNeil A lot. This feels a bit high for for him but again high batting average Average floor a really high overall floor and I think he's GonNa get to play a every day at third base so that should definitely help. The counting stats I do you think there is some power in the band but the stat cast data isn't kind to him so probably not gonNA end up a Lotta shares of Jeff meal because there's just so many guys in this area. We're going after him that I just really really liked a lot more Disappointing me because I thought I glance at it that I would be higher on macneil than I am. I agree with that that last part particularly with the Not Ending up with him because of others but he could end up being a consolation prize if we miss out on some of our guys to and I think that that's a very adequate consolation prize because the what he's able to do and kind of You know bring that big batting average with some punch. I'll look and see his context numbers going up seventy five. Rabies eighty-three runs. That was in five hundred. Sixty seven plate appearances barring injury. He should track over six hundred this year. That lineup is solid for the mets. Kinda runs deep and he's he's rebounding second Nimmo gets on base at an amazing clip ahead of him. Pita Lonzo Romsey no. Jd Davis Michael. CONFORTO will Romo's driving him in behind. I like Jeff McNeil. So don't sleep on him. I did see my his Ozcan. Interesting guests like eighteen eighteen percent because he's ridiculous forty one point seven percents wo. Does it make a lot of oh contact one and a half an is it. Okay maybe I should have realized like yeah he he just got so everything I mean he. His own is on swing percentages eighty five percent. Yeah he's not a huge log guy. That was a bad test. Yeah I was thinking batting average that he that he's like real particular but no That makes a lot more sense that you say because he can get to everything so McNeil's not afraid to swing. That makes that makes sense. But you know with the second base eligibility I can see myself if my lemay mayhew. And in Muncie get taken out from under me. I could go to McNeil so I think I'll have some shares here I've got him that. I even ranking third base. I didn't I thanked him sixteenth. I think he is. I'm an idiot. He's nine Oh yeah I think he's. Dj Lemay Yeah. You light so Because I think Lemay is going to have more count a better counting categories I think he probably probably is like a high teens. Low Twenties homer guy with you know some chip in speed but but I also wouldn't be surprised if only like fifteen home rotten's it's not a great interest park. It's definitely has a pitcher. Lean to it And he the stack gas numbers like I said I mean his exit velocities thirty eight percent tile hardwood percentage. Thirty seven th percentile. But he's going to hit for average version. So that Kinda helps keep that flora match happens next any rounds out the tier hearings the fourteenth third basement off the board. And and if you haven't been convinced yet you should be now that the depth of this position when Matt Chapman is fourteenth and I love match and I I can only get him to thirteen and I put him ahead of some of the guys we've already talked about including Manny Machado. So put him at fifteen right right ahead of me McNeil. Yeah so I mean it's just it's just the depth at the position. He now he did end up kind of sputtering there to the point where he had a two forty nine average. So I think Some of the hype on his breakout season is is a little bit overblown or maybe people just didn't kind of see how it fully finished there because the thirty six homers are so nice he has electric defense which increases his profile has visibility but doesn't obviously do anything for us in the fantasy realm. Oh I still really like him though. Interestingly enough though. Don't blame the park for the batting average to sixty three at home to thirty five on the road. Little bit of trouble against lefties with two thirty four average but that was with a two twenty-nine Babbitt for Matt Chapman. I think that set to rise. I do not think he's a major batting average liability ability. I actually think that it could go back up to. At least the two seventy eight that he had in two thousand eighteen if not potentially higher. I continue to use the the Josh Johnson comp because I do think it it it fits so well and that's the the trajectory that he's on and so it might feel a little lazy easy but I think it also works and so I'm definitely going to have at least some some chapman somewhere despite the depth of third base and me trying to get a piece of every guy. Chapman's going to be on there. Because I still think You know I think this year to seventy three hundred is what. I'm is my starting point Yup It's an interesting Bravo. I almost wonder if he tried to because he raises launch angle almost two degrees. I wonder if that was a bit of a mistake and see that going for too much much power. You're saying yeah 'cause he's putting the ball in the air like forty plus percent of the time and if you look at like his spray chart take away the line drives in the home runs uh-huh and just kind of look at the fly ause. He's got a lot of fly balls. That were close to being home runs. And maybe if he just leveled out the swing tad bit We'd be looking at a guy hitting forty as opposed to thirty five or forty two forty plus of thirty five live so as early smart organization. I'm sure they'll work on him with that. I think he's probably like a two sixty batting average guy especially with that kind of approach But I think the two sixty with you bank like thirty two thirty three home runs ends in with the upside of like forty two to forty three. Yeah I think there's definitely power upside their match habits Max the Piss out of the ball all for sure and every day. I mean every day elite argument about baseball elite defensive player GonNa play every day eh no matter if he struggles or not Which means those counting categories? I mean he went one zero to ninety one runs in. RBI's last year. No reason to think he's he's not repeating that Yup for sure All right so now we move into another tier and we're probably going to two parts for third base. Yeah 'cause I'm on a a little bit of a time deadline here so I think we'll get into this tier discuss all of them and then and then cap it induced part to next week. How's that sounds good to me all right? So this is the weight on third based here for whatever reason you've missed out. This is not going to be you and I because we're going to be dipping into these other pools quite a bit particularly the one we talked about. But if you if you did end up waiting because things were breaking differently on other guys you liked he may be got two pitchers and You know couldn't find a way into third base. Now you're taking a look at it starting around pick one hundred. You're not in too bad of shape because it's Mike. Mushtaq is at one zero three Josh Donaldson at one Zero Three Eduardo. Escobar one. Thirteen Yuli Gurriel at one. twenty-one Miguel no at one twenty five and Tommy Edmund at one thirty five. Let's discuss this here and I'll start the way we have every other time. Who is your favorite at their price? Josh Donaldson and the Dow. We know that that's going is up but I mean how much is up so I I don't know question. I don't know that he reaches Chapman. But I think that that would be the peak. I am Josh Donaldson at Thirteen. So and honestly I think he should probably be higher than that so I'm probably going to move them above Machado at twelve moved his. I've got fourteen. He's another guy. Hi that ended up with a lot of shares of Donaldson was fantastic last year. And as long as he's healthy go onto the AL l. Shoot help that because he will get some time at d. h. every now and again but eggs of law city hard. Hit Percentage Woah X.. lugging all right. Read you know eighty th percentile or better League no reason to things like Donald S- is in is going to revert back to the guy that he was when he was injured. Because I think it was all injury so yeah I mean I. It's it's all any concerns that you have about Donaldson are only health related and I know I know. He's a little bit older but unless us we find out he gets hurt. There's no reason not to be taking him high and treating him as a monster. Let's when did he signed nine. I'm you see here if I can find that it was okay. Perfect so I. I didn't know the exact date I did the fifteen so I kind of guessed asked in my head. I did from the fifteenth on their seven qualified drafts and he moved right ahead of Matt. Chapman and Jeff McNeil. He went to eighty six and they fall all right behind him so he's at thirteen. Which is where you said he is? I think that's where he's going to be. I don't know what he's GonNa move much higher than that. The next spot would be ten picks. Up over over Muncie. I think they'll be drafts where he goes. I think is averaged. Opposition will sit between Muncie and Chapman in the seventy six to eighty seven. Having arranged for Josh Donaldson. Do agree with that or do you think he makes the jump fully above nonsense. Where right? Okay I think that's yeah on a comfortable with that. I think that's completely where he should be going. Still I wish I wish she wasn't going up. I wish I got a couple shares. I don't know that any shares yet. I wish I had gotten a couple of years before he signed because obviously whoever whoever got him outside the top one hundred has got to be feeling pretty good when they're seeing that. ADP rise into the eighties. Yes I got. I got one outside the top one hundred and I am very happy about it Because again you know we talked about it a bunch when the guys are unsigned just carry discount and they sign and all of sudden price starts to go to where it quote unquote should be and I think you nailed it with Donaldson at thirteen. I've got fourteen so we're pretty close to the market. I will be comfortable comfortable to get a donaldson share or two. If that's how the draft falls to me now let's Let's talk. Is there anybody at their price that you are fully out on between this in this group. Tommy Edman though the Zona signing in Atlanta Mix it a bit a bit easier to see a fulltime role for Adleman. Exactly yeah the. If they signed their Korea trade for Aaron auto it would muddy things back up true. I know he I know oh he was on fire. Eleven home runs and fifteen stolen bases three hundred average in like a half season You know a little bit more more than half. Season's worth of work The stat cast data is very very ugly for him. Nineteen th percentile are. Hit percentage twenty-first percents L. Exit Velocity Sprint. Sprint speed. I mean he's he's fast he's definitely fast but I just don't trust the organization. Not What do something like make him a super utility guy not give him fulltime plate appearances. Super Util is fulltime. I think utility he is where you worry super you till you know. He's spotting in every day almost at somewhere and I think adamant will least get that. I don't no no. I got this. This organization loves this type approach. This is cardinals devil. Magic personified So I think and years going to get his playing time. I kinda like Edmund and I'm not even more so much about the power you know if I can get. Let's let's say it gets at least five hundred appearances if not the full six. We'll go five hundred. I'll take I'll take nine to twelve homers but I think I'm getting I'm getting a a five plus stolen bases like his vitas premium. He should have a decent batting average. High contact doesn't doesn't really walk much but doesn't need to because he's he's got great contact but he's also not devoid of walks in the minors he was kind of a six to eight percent. Guy Ah The majors this year translated to a five percent. If I can get a you know a clicker to hire. They're kind of live in that six seven percent but again. I'm not so worried about that. I think is batting batting. Average will fuel a solid. OB P north of at least three twenty. And that's all I really need for him to have the opportunities to get on home-based steel and I think admin is going to be fine and if if Batur is going to be the starting center fielder that that's GonNa Protect Edmund from batting eighth because he's way better than Baiter as hitter. How many guys on the cardinals have stolen more than twenty five bases in the last five years probably zero or one time fan but who been capable of it? They've always had like old slow guy. I mean that's a fair. I don't think this is what I'm coming around on cold long. Twenty four last year and five five hundred forty nine plate appearances. So yeah I just I just don't trust the organization. I think he can be a guy that Ah That's deals basically. I gotta be honest. I I would I would. I would accept the pushback more. If you were worried about Edmund himself the organization thing is what I don't one definitely worried about Edmund especially in terms of I I think he's GonNa hit for batting average. I think he can steal basis. I don't know that there's going to be much our there. Yeah I'm not working right now. Speak without them adding another Guy He is currently slated to bat seventh in the lineup. So does that mean the counting categories stories Runs the is probably not going to be super strong. I would like him more if he was going about. Thirty or forty picks weeks later but it. Just there's too many guys in this area that I like more and I get that. Put Him in our next here that we're going to start next week. If he was as their next year I think I would feel much more comfortable grabbing some shares. But like. I can't take him over ver. I mean I guess you you need speed At third base like he's the Guy Right so Not many guys are gonNA steal bases from the third based position so he he'd be the guy that target in this year but like I think a base to his second base as well because I hate second second just no donaldson or Mushtaq is it's a premium or you don't have to take him over those guys you gotta take movers and on so no is the only on no no he edmonds last of this group and by the way back I on that sense one fifteen With Donaldson Update in Edmonds. Going down. He He's already dropped ten picks from there. We'll see if it continues You know a Castanos signing and of course in international trade would push them down further and then maybe he's in the buying range for you at that point but I I I hear you. You are paying premium But you know we talk talk about speed speed speed speed speed and and all that you know I'd rather pay this premium then over overdo it with the guys is in the early rounds that are giving me other stuff and this right on the border of early to mid round on wherever you know you start to get closer to the tenth round but God Kevin Newman ask. Yeah kind of guy but I think with a little bit more upside in terms of because I don't think that we're talking about newman as a guy who's GonNa Steal Twenty five basis but newman's leading off should I be reynolds but to your point. Newman human fifty picks cheaper. So if you showed a little bit more patients the play in the four point six percents walk rate is a bit scary EMBIID is not modesty like because he's obviously are in it for for ally. Mix a a lot of contact. Another one of these guys Thirty two percent. Oh swing but seventy two percents. Oh contact yet not afraid to call it. A out of Zone Edmund can make the can make the the contact there I haven't Adam Seventeenth in my ranking kind of a A flag plant type of ranking when I did did this back in October as the dust has settled with the Eskimos stock essence. And no he's GonNa fall behind them. I would not take Tommy Edmund over those three and I get this full price for him and frankly the guy that we're gonNA talk about I on Monday In the rest of the third base I I think I like just as much so. Yeah I think a little high Friedemann that whole next year I mean fund here. It's it's a really nice here. So let's continue with this one though so Mustafa's has yes and again another guy with a lot of a lot of duo. WHOA eligibilty triple eligibility here at third base? He has that second base as well. And I feel like if you're slotting moves at second base you're getting such a leg up because it's not a great great position and I just love what he's what he can do is now going into Cincinnati which is another quality park. I wouldn't say that it's going to boost Houston because he's leaving Miller Park which is also good. But he's certainly not being hurt by moving to great American ballpark. That lineup is is worthy. I think it's a neutral move overall. I just like what he's been doing in recent years that I'm just not off of Mustafa's at all and I think we could get pretty much a repeat of what he did last year which was to fifty four. Thirty five homers eighty seven rabies eighty runs and A few ZIP and steals which who cares but Yeah I really like like moves. And he's re batting third or fourth. Be between him and as far as and if we can get on you know getting on base. We'll we'll talk about about him at first base with regards what we think about his power but if you knock Yama are getting on base there's RBI's for days for Suarez and moves. And I think Moose I will say this I think Moose Sets a new career high and rabies. He had ninety five back in two thousand eighteen. Thank you push one hundred this year. Suarez light I mean it's almost like the same same type of profiles of stack has data where the eggs of loss and heartache percentage are off the charts but he just Daryl's everything and moving moving to a not not. That Miller Park was about listed. Yeah but getting at least you didn't go to a poor hitter's park if he had gone to. Do you place like Oakland or something like that. I would have been like ooh okay. He's GonNa drop quite a bit on my list but getting getting to go to great American ballpark division. Knows and getting to your hidden at the ballpark and hit some the other good ballparks in the division so I I I like Moussa Lot I have him right below Donaldson in my ranks. at fourteen Like you said GonNa be in a you know that that lineup up that I really liked so A lot of shares of stock is. He's probably might like you know outside of Muncie Z.. Being my favorite by at third base Mushtaq is probably number. Two tacos is a beast really like him. Let's let's talk about Edward Escobar because We do I mean he had a hell of a season last year. And definitely somebody who gets pointed to when you you talk about the The bouncing ball of twenty nineteen. Not that he's been devoid of power. Twenty One and twenty three home runs the two previous years but then thirty five one eighteen last year with To sixty nine nice batting average there and ninety four runs scored chip steals again. Not Really of concern right now because it could be one stolen base or the five that he got last year. It doesn't really matter so he goes from twenty three to thirty five and again volume went went up in terms of playing time but not enough to account for this at one of US causing me. Thirty one in twenty twenty. Where do we go from here after such a big spike season? And you know I don't think the market's overcharging at one. Thirteen also has second base eligible in the AL point out so I think the markets also little like. What do we do here? He's up from one seventy five last year which I think is a reasonable jump for what he did. You know you gotTA count. Count the most recent year heaviest. I think he's kind of boring. And even if he falls back he'll be perfectly capable but I don't feel like gap targeting Companion well what do you expect out of him in twenty twenty. I think he's a prime candidate for aggression Exit Glossy hard. Hit percentage percentage of both in the blue in seventeen percent. Art Percentage over on his dad cast data Agai that again one of these guys at third base who's got a forty plus percent swing but he doesn't have the contact percentage of the other guys we've mentioned Contact Sixty eight percent is saying he. He's super super aggressive. And I think he doesn't I think he really benefited from the Bouncy Ball last year. And I think the previous seasons in two thousand seventeen in in two thousand eighteen are much more indicative of who we will be this year. So we're talking about a guy is gonna hit like to sixty with like mid to low wanting Wani's homerun so yeah. I think these two thousand eighteen numbers are spot on. And I don't WanNa pay the premium immune on that. No not what. The what the depth the position. You've hinted already that the next year we'll talk about on Monday. You love so why would you buy. Escobar we're here when when they cost what they cost so. I think it's just one of those things where it's like I get y Escobar. Had to go up after what he did last year. Thanks thanks for what you did if you were. You know if if I had him last year which I didn't But I'll catch up with the next year when your price comes back down after you Put up a solid average season but Eduardo Escobar will not be on any teams this year. Pick one thirteen all right. Let's move on Yuli Gurriel L. Nother Bouncy ball candidate for sure. This guy was total locked in late round batting adding average and that was what built the intrigue. So if you picked him you definitely got lucky with thirty one homers. But you're probably targeting him so you can you can back pat a little bit even if you didn't see the power our coming but those that had were drafting him with purpose because he was kind of a locked in to ninety who came pretty late in drafts. And that's always fun. I mean one ninety four. ADP last year To get that supplemental batting average and he rewards you with a ninety eight average in thirty one homers with one hundred and for ribs in eighty five runs. Frankly he probably should have been going that late when he hit two ninety one. Thirteen eighty five seventy the year before in one hundred thirty six games names like but it's as age because he was going into his age thirty five season so instead he puts up a career year. Where do we go from here? Is this the same thing as Escobar. where it's like? Thanks for what you did. But the pay okay. What he he he's is? Barrel percentage lasers three point one percent. Lidge hurt is barrels per plate appearance. A point one so sorry. Three point eight percent so Yeah which was three hundred fortieth in major league. Baseball last year is that it's not great and four. I think it the way work to it was in two thousand eighteen. He was in the bottom five percent in terms of barrel percentage gene so I mean this yeah. This is an average guy. I mean his ex batting average eighty four percentile is to eighty four. I think he can again be a source of batting average. But now you're having to pay for the power spike and I fully expect that to come back knocked down to Earth. Maybe not back down to thirteen like we saw in two thousand eighteen. Yeah let me put a number on it. Let's see low twenties to with the With the thirteen. That wasn't five hundred. Seventy three plate appearances. If you're giving him six twenty I I guess that would've pushed him up to fourteen fifteen so you're still saying he's going to have some power gain over what he was before. This Yuli Gurriel is but not it keeping the thirty one at all. You said you're GONNA have low twenties so you agree with steamer. I'm probably under that. Yeah I'M GONNA I'M GONNA go eighteen. Nineteen I I think that's fair especially could get the banning he's GonNa get time off to in there's No D. H. for him to slide to when they wanna put someone else in it. I especially if if we hear anything about Kyle Tucker playing first base like that's like Oh you know. They seem to want to keep putting Josh rettig out there. And maybe instead of Kyle Tucker taking over for Josh Rennick maybe start sliding in for Brielle and it and it's hard to really push girls Played appearances up to like six fifty. Because he hasn't gotten there yet with this team and they probably understand that mid thirties guy keeping him in the you know five seventy two six hundred range is the right thing to do. So yeah I I think the Boe on this is it's exactly like Escobar great season last year. You were awesome or League winner for some folks. I just can't pay the premium He'll be he'll be he'll be fine he will not kill you if you pick them here but there's so many better guys. I think that you can get cheaper than than Yuli Yuli Gurriel including the next guy who you've converted me on tour now. I used to kind of just shut him instantly still not fully bought in. I'm like I'm getting them everywhere. But I like Miguel Sano and He's certainly interests me a lot more than ever did. He's going nineteenth at the position. One twenty five have overall when Galveston got a deal this year to now the crazy thing and we talked about this during the Donaldson signing right now. Roster resource hasn't in Pennsylvania at eight. I don't know about that. I think he should at least be seven over Lewis Araya's even though it'd be ready righty and and the way it would stand right now is left right left right. It's GonNa go left right left. I think that you put Sonoko seven and just take kind the imbalanced thereof of righties lefties. But I can't really get him too much higher unless Garver flops. Then maybe six ads really about the peak with this lineup. That's okay though. Because there's lineups deep it's disgusting. This dude hit thirty four homers in four hundred thirty nine plate appearances last. Sure I'll step back and give you the floor on scenario. He's your guy h twenty-seven what can he do. What are you expecting? I mean baseball home runs. That's what candy will Will he do that. I don't know I mean you go look into projections. ATC Hasim Awesome. Three five home runs in twenty eight games. Death Journalism for thirty eight home runs in in Andrea. Forty two games Steamer Adam for thirty seven runs one hundred thirty thirty eight game so none of them are expecting him. Stay healthy the whole year but they're all expecting thirty five plus home runs So I I don't know. We talked about him win. I think with Donaldson signing it. Moving I having to bat lower in the order of we meals talk about the fact that I feel like a lot of the injuries that he sustained have been either way related or fluky. He's addressed the way issue came in last last year and was in really great shape. Assume he will do the same this year. One of those guys as batting average indefinitely fluctuate so you pencil men for like two forty forty batting average but I also think I think he's GonNa hit forty home runs this year in the question is how many more than forty will if it really. You know because if you can get that volume up we've yet to see a five hundred point appearance season out of Miguel. So no it's crazy to think what he could possibly do because of that transcendent power her and like I said I used to kind of just. I don't want to take one ninety nine average and get stuck with that from twenty eighteen. But that's that's the anomaly. Right now he's a career are two forty five. You can live with that with this kind of power. I mean we prop up. Chris Davis like crazy for us to forty seven because of all the you know the ban the home runs that he can do to forty seven does not kill you. And he's not even D. H.. Only the way someone like Chris Davis's and he's cheaper than what. Chris Davis this has been going in most years obviously until this year after the meltdown of Joy Nineteen Virginia. Tommy ended there. You go get the men in the in the in the stolen bases and aural mayhew or really like that I would. I would really really really really be interested in doing so. Because he's is really answers by third base eligibility Lemay US first second and third gives you a lot of flexibility on your team yet. So ruinous burying Yup and I. Yeah I think I'm going to be interesting to do that and snows definitely somebody who is fully on my radar and Meaning I feel like I'm I'm probably GONNA wind up with at least I A prominent share somewhere meaning in one of my bigger leagues. That I WANNA make sure that I get in on this. Because he could hit fifty and nobody nobody nobody would be surprised. All right. That's GONNA wrap up part one of third base. We still have plenty of guys to cover. We have three sections. They're all pretty deep so strong to be at least another hour of third base. Hopefully guys dialed in for that on Monday. And then we'll continue around the diamond. I think our next one after that will be outfield which also may require two parts. We're just GONNA get along do four hours but Anyway here for Justin I know you are and frankly I could to. Maybe we do that. No we see if we want to break it up or or put it all together. We'll we'll we'll see it'll be a week from I. I said Thursday. I met Wednesday. It'll be a week from today. That will be doing that next. Monday will get them next. Piece of third base. Justin what do you got coming coming up with your rankings. What's which one's next feel? I'll feel after this. I'M GONNA try. I'm in the process of moving so I get the keys either tomorrow. Friday only going to be without Internet for day. But I don't know how much time to actually finish up my ranks. They make them out Monday for that. In the fishing up the fancy benefits draft guide which is already four hundred fifty pages And I haven't even put in the projection earn and put in the auction values yet. So I think I'm still missing some prospect pieces from from Matt Matt Thompson of prospect live. So that'll be available for sale next weekend. Believe as well all right good to hear all right so we look forward to more rankings. Coming out and we'll talk to you next week.

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Celtics Locker Room Meltdown | Patriots Seahawks Preview | Red Sox Silver Linings

Boston Sports Beat

19:13 min | 7 months ago

Celtics Locker Room Meltdown | Patriots Seahawks Preview | Red Sox Silver Linings

"All right, welcome into the Boston Sports be presented by bet u s and we're going to get right down to it with Brian Rob at the Boston Sports journal and it's you know, this is one of those stranger days in the past year for the Celtics coming off of you know, the game to melt down which they blew a 7 another double-digit lead a 17-point lead at but of course all of the focus in this one Brian is on the altercation after the game that became the story a lot of frustrations bubbled over some details today and again, you picked this and you could have guessed it and you know, it was it was very Marcus Smart heavy and and in jail and kind of jumping in almost got physical stuff thrown. What do you know about what went down and what's your what's your overall Vibe and long-term concern about how this is going to affect the team going forward if at all. I don't think it's going to affect them much long-term at all. This is a situation in a locker and Marcus Smart has always been the most vocal guy in that locker room and that those are two of the most frustrating losses back-to-back that the Celtics team has seen, you know, all year long and smart and brown have bumped head many times in their career before that again happened, you know, there's plenty people young a lot from there. But those are the two that kind of want each other the most but I don't think that it's anything that's laughing because it's a heat-of-the-moment type situation. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone was kind of had called for how things went a part in that game whether it was you know, Jaylen Brown missing a box out with thirty seconds left after Jason Tatum not being there for help rotation on bam. Adebayo 15.3 quarter or smart taking some tough question most shots late in the game against the the heat Zone when dead You know maybe better options were available. So I think everyone's going to kind of take a step back today. So start practicing today. They're going to look at the film. I think that films going to show okay, you know, everyone needs to step up here and so long, you know frustrations kind of going over right after a loss like that. I don't think are going to have any long-term implication besides, you know, maybe giving this team the the kick in the butt they need. Yeah again, no, no practice. No media, so you're not going to hear anybody talking about it today, which again is probably welcome for them to not have to rehash it again. You heard from everybody but smart he left the arena very heated. Now, I'm slicing up the blame pie of another double-digit loss how again you we pointed to a bunch of individual things here that went down. So it really is a total team break down. It feels like you can you can give some to everybody but a very fashionable thing is to point a Brad and say fix it. What if anything can Brad do here with a team that is has a has a PHD off Lying in Blowing double-digit leads. I mean they are as good at it as anybody we we see and it's again each time. You can point you this player. Did this this player did this this player did this and they're all kind of moments, but it can Brad do anything here to prevent this or keep it from happening. I mean, I think it does start first and foremost if the players to your point, since, you know, the missed shots are one thing then not moving the ball against the zone as one thing but there was just a lack of effort and faith in a lot of key spots for any game much less, you know gave to the Eastern Conference Finals. So that that's something there Brad can only do so much there. He's going to you know, it's like he has a deep breath that he can you know, go to Alternatives if something's not bring everything those games especially with with Hayward out. So it's on the players to really focus in and then realize, you know, really, you know walk in on their assignments black box out for 40 mins just play a full 40 minutes. And that has not happened much at all. Its closed even even during the season winds and then but you know Brad's gotta look at himself to God, I think you know throwing in as Cantor in the middle of third-quarter defensive meltdown did not go. Well Rob Williams not playing it all just a To mix things up and you know, maybe match at a bios fo system a little bit has to be looked at even though can't you're obviously gave them some big points in the first half there and found it is, you know, looking closer at the heat Zone which really frustrated the Seas. They got some good shots out of it, but they still were rushing they weren't staying composed. So I think the states need the coaching staff just needs to look at that scheme give you know Empower his guys know, okay, if we get to these spots and move the ball like we need to we're going to keep getting good looks and I thought, you know, maybe Gordon Hayward coming back to the floor and Game 3 or game for is a it's a big part of that. Well, let's move to that because that's going to be the big the big story here. There are reports that he could be ready for 3 months now, it looks like he's close. He's not going at the door. So How big a difference does it make again? You don't know cuz you don't know what percentage of Gordon Hayward you're going to get as you seventy eighty ninety eight anywhere close to a hundred and let's just assume he's somewhat limited package. Do you see this 18 to 20 minutes off the bench playing with that second unit offense that seems to make the most amount of sense here. But even that I think makes a big difference again, if only to reduce the amount of minutes being given to some of the bigger guys here give them a break give them a blow you can see, you know late in those games. It's wearing the late-game execution has been bad when they get frustrated, you know, some shot selection has a questionable. So maybe just getting Gordon in there a little bit. I think I think makes a huge difference regardless of whether he's close to a hundred percent. Yeah, I agree with you John. I mean, he's someone who just can kind of do it all offensively even if he's not as fast. He's he's patient. He's a mid-range shooter. He's like, he's a good passer and he's someone that he just going to have to respect much more than a semi ojeleye. Terrific Paul Handler you all of it. Yeah. Exactly. So that's something where you don't have to put them into the fire immediately. You can bring them off the bench, excuse me, and then that just allows everyone else to kind of play offs or comfortable Rose against that zone not put the pressure on them to create as much and that should lead to better shots. It's not a guarantee. He may not be himself and that might you know limit what he can do, but it's clearly even him at 80% at this point is probably better than Shem usually on the offensive end. And so that's going to be helped the suckers office and maybe give guys some more rest to them to avoid seeing, you know, the meltdowns we've run in the second half in the fourth quarter of these games and there's a trickle-down effect too. It's not just a semi ojeleye minutes. I mean, I know Romeo tried a little bit but you're looking at I you know Wanamaker's play Monster minutes right now probably way more than you want to see him playing in a playoff series this at these late stages because smart has to play so many minutes with that first unit and that's you know, Are these are kind of hayward's minutes there. And so Wanamaker's having to come in and spell you know, smart and Kemba at times and so he's playing 25 minutes a game which again is a ton. So just simply reducing the load a little bit. I think as you said definitely makes a big difference prediction going into game three again, who knows but yeah, I mean I if you go back and look at what this others did and these games I think they're going to look at they did miss a lot of makeable shots against that so the second half they didn't play well, but they often looks worried there and so it's just going to be a matter of composure and I do think they're going to take a game three that's still a very long way to go to get them back in the series, but just based on how this team has bounced back from adversity all year long. I don't I don't think it they're ones to just turtle and you know get swept title playoffs here. So I think you're going to see some some better off in game three and then we'll see what happens from there. All right quick break. You want to tell you about our exclusive sponsor. That is BET u s football basketball baseball hockey all going on right now and you need a place to get down your bets. I only endorse one sports book and that of course, is that u s.com? Why you ask? Well that us is the Pioneer in online betting with more than 25 years in a business Community wage. I spoke with integrity and Longevity need to make sure that you're going to get paid. So here's how you get involved. All you have to do is go to bet u s.com and fill out your information when you sign up and then you get to the box that says, how'd you hear about us right in Boston Sports Journal. Once again, that's that u s.com. And then the Box. How did you hear about us right in Boston Sports Journal you can get up to 150% in bonuses on your first thought is it again that u s.com sign up now up to 150% on your first apartment Switching gears to football will bring in Greg Bedard Patriots to see box match up this week and Greg you've written about and you've talked about Cam Newton having to do more this week against Seattle in order for the Patriots to be competitive. Yeah, no question. You know this Seahawks team. We all know some of the cast of characters have changed but they they're extremely fast. They're extremely aggressive especially in the office building there won't be fans but it's it's still a tough chore to travel out there and we saw in week one a very limited game plan. It was it was effective, especially in the running game. But only three pass this over 10 yards. The Patriots will not be able to play like that this week against the Seahawks. They're just they're they're too aggressive and you know the other big thing out of that game against the Dolphins was cam given very little ability to check out a place at the line of scrimmage. And so the Patriots ran a bunch of bad plays in the pad looks and that's fine. They got away with it against the Dolphins off a bunch of new players on their team. They will not get away with against the Seahawks. I mean they if I'm the Seahawks going into this game. I am basically blitzing every single down and come down. After Cam Newton because he what we saw last week was cam can see the bullets coming and there's nothing he can do about it. We're in the past Tom Brady could check out of a play get the Patriots into a better place. If the if the Patriots don't figure out a way to threaten the Deep part of the field and to throw some wrinkles and I do think I think we're going to see Josh McDaniels typical stuff against fast defense traps lambs and running game will see they did not run very many screens as the Dolphins. I thought that was curious. They probably held it out for this game. So I think we'll see a bunch of screens wage if the if the Patriots don't throw a couple of wrinkles at the Seahawks very early. They're going to come after Cam Newton in the Patriots on every single down and that's going to be a tough chore. So you want to see them press it down field regardless of whether they're successful just just for the sake of yeah, they have to have to take it. They have to take their shots. And you know, there were some design shot plays against the dog. The problem was that the Dolphins were all out blitzing on those plays and and Cam Newton didn't have time to even get to those downfield read. So they they need to do something. They need to they you know, first play the game Throw go to damiere Byrd something like that just to just to put it in the Seahawks mind or else or else the fields going to get very condensed for the Patriots. And and I don't think I don't think they can survive a fight in that type. Okay on the other side, you've got Seahawks offense. It looks a little bit scary. I mean again you Patriots have the secondary to match but Russell Wilson mobile quarterback playmaker the traditionally Pat haven't done well with with quarterbacks like him. How do you view this matchup and and and with the Patriots defense going in there? Well, they certainly can defensively because they're you know, the secondaries our strengths and and the Seahawks have a ton of weapons. Like you said DK Metcalf Tyler Lockett the club More two tight ends that are outstanding Chris Carson, you know a nice running back. The problem with the Seahawks is that their their Achilles heel is still four years still their defensive line. They do it between brown at left tackle. They do have a promising rookie and Damien Harris Damian Lewis at Right Guard, but outside of that they're very very shaky and the problem is though is that that's not really the strength of the Patriots. Yes, they'll be able to get a little bit more pressure but it's one thing for the the secondary the secondary is good for the Patriots. But you know, they've gotten away with being able to cover for a few seconds. The thing with Russell Wilson is you need to cover for about 6 seconds and that makes it a lot different so long if the Patriots don't get home. They don't Corral Russell Wilson, they don't if they allow him to run around and make plays it's even going to be tough for their secondary. So this is a tough matchup also wage. The Patriots are Switching gears to baseball which is a sport played by a team in Boston and the Red Sox amazingly nine games left in the season. Sean McAdam Boston Sports channel here and Sean Penn. This has been over pretty much for the Red Sox almost before the season started. So you're always looking to see what can be gleaned from any successes that are going on with the team right now and you wrote for buses took journal the other day about the success of the rookies primarily, you know, Bobby dalbec, you know shades of Sam Horn here, you know, five hundred and five straight games and not a really solid debut from Tanner house. So that in addition to a couple other rookies is encouraging but you're saying you're you're cautiously optimistic here that this is something that's signals. You know that these guys have arrived. Yeah. I think John you have to temper Your Enthusiasm. It's great to see Tanner how give you five shutout innings in his birth. Debut as he did on Tuesday night Miami, it's great to see the raw power. The doll back has exhibited but I think that you always have to take September performances and call-ups with the proverbial grain of salt because the Red Sox are obviously playing with no pressure whatsoever. These games don't mean much to them. So there's a looser atmosphere than usual. They're also have the advantage of you know, meeting these teams and players who aren't all that familiar with them and that's probably more true than this year when you can't Scout Minor League games because there are none so I think it's certainly an encouraging sign to see guys like dalbec and how often perform as they have so far, but I also think it's important to keep it in perspective and it would be dangerous to say well we've got a rotation piece and how long We can count on and we've got a slugging first baseman who's going to handle that position for the next ten years based on a few good weeks of September baseball again, you'd rather see them do this. Then struggle sure. Don't think you can read too much into a small sample size at a time when there really isn't a whole lot on the line. It's good to see. Yeah, but you need not see a lot more based on just what you've seen again. We're looking at a tennis playing closer to five hundred ball over the last, you know, last little bit here after just bought it certainly a miserable start till really short season again, it's it's such a small sample size all together. It's really hard to see, you know, it's really hard to get a get a sense of what's real. But anything else you're seeing that's encouraging at all with the rest of the team. Not not not including the rookies. Yeah. I mean, I think in general the fact that they are at least competitive. I mean when they left on this 9 p.m. Road trip that was just concluded in Philly Tampa and Miami it would have been easy to expect something like 2:00 and 7 they're playing three teams who are all in the playoff race with something to play for and clearly more talented rosters than the Red Sox have and to their credit the Red Sox went five and four against three good teams on the road. I think that's something I don't often go overboard and praise these guys for giving people something go overboard, you know, look their Major Leaguers. They should be giving full effort all the time. There should be Focus, even if there's a lack of talent they should be playing hard. But the fact is that some teams don't they fold like a tent in September there they have this can't wait for the season to be over. Let's get out of here. Let's mail in these performances and to their credit. They haven't done that. They have played hard. They have even the losses have been mostly, you know close games. So I think that speaks highly dead. The the approach the team has taken and frankly. I think it says something about Ron Reineke to that. He's been able to keep the focus of the team and it probably speaks to you know, I respect for him that they're not mailing in these last few weeks and that they can drag you to play hard and focus and lastly offseason checklist. You think's Rafael Devers should be high on their priority list your question. I mean, there's a lot to get down. Obviously. If you watch this team for any duration, you know that the starting pitching has to be addressed. The rotation has to get a lot better. There are a lot of things they need to do but I think high on this list should be addressing a contract extension for Devers you want to make him along with Xander Bogaerts the foundational pieces of this rebuilt and know that got the left side of the infield taken care of with two players in their mid-20s in their Prime under control for the foreseeable future the longer you let Devers get closer to free a dog. See the more you risk having a replay of what happened with Mookie Betts. I think that they weren't aggressive enough early when they approached Bets with some extensions early wage is with his service time wasn't all that great. They could have with more effort and more aggressiveness locked him up so that you didn't get into a situation where you feared he was going to walk away for nothing us trade him away as they did in February. You don't want another homegrown star to be in that position get them signed now get it taken off the plate and have the left side of the infield set for a long time tomorrow Sean McAdam. Thank you very much. This has been the Boston Sports feat presented by bet u s. Thanks for joining us off.

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Effectively Wild Episode 1510: Season Preview Series: Red Sox and Giants

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

1:15:09 hr | 1 year ago

Effectively Wild Episode 1510: Season Preview Series: Red Sox and Giants

"Hello and welcome. Deb So fifteen ten of effectively wild fan graphs baseball podcast brought to you by our Patriot. Supporters I'm MEG rally a fan graphs. I am joined once again by Sam Miller of ESPN. Sam How are you? I'm good? How are you good sightseeing shocked you so much this week? Yeah yeah this is our fourth our fourth call. Yeah we've several. We've done several calls a little later in the episode. We will preview the Red Sox with Alex Spirit of the Boston Globe and the giants with our Pell Grant Brisby of the athletic such an episode. An brisby no embarrassment of riches really. I mean we have had all of our guests have been really really rate during these preview bads suspicious. You know. Sometimes we're talking to people we don't know and I enjoy that because I get to know them and get your New Perspective on baseball. Sometimes we get to talk to our pals and that's fun Console Response Sharks your pals so what an embarrassment of riches in this episode two main stages in my hand. We recorded our segment with Alex on the red SOx little earlier this week so I guess we should give a brief Chris sale update so that I don't have to record a little bit on this. Which is that. It does not seem as if he needs. Tommy John Surgery most immediately but that this elbow flexor strain problem is significant and he sounds very upset about it he told reporters that it sucks and Tommy. John is not sort of out the window. Sounds like they'll no more than a couple of weeks but it's not great. What's the what's the good way that this could go? I guess the good way is that he could rehab it and come back later in the season and pitch and hopefully do it well. But in anticipation of a long delay and needing rotation Depth Threat Sox signed Colin mccue. Who only recently started throwing himself after having an injury riddled twenty nineteen so that helps them get better but he ends up. Having to throw a lot of star ratings seemed bad so well. We didn't know this information when we talked to Alex but he was Kinda clearly. I think Alex was was fairly pessimistic at that. And so that probably I don't know I think that's a little bit baked into expectations for the Red Sox. Right now is that well. I guess I guess this is sort of superstition but I think baked into expectations for the red sox. Right now is that things aren't going to go. Well like if there is something that could go one way or the other this year. I think there's a sense that it's not going to go the good way. Yeah I think that that is right. So that'll come. That'll come up later. Yeah we'll talk about that later. I WanNa say one quick thing. Before we go to that amend we will get right into these These previews which is that people going on vacation is is funny and I enjoy it when bengals on vacation This is GonNa end up being nice for everyone. I enjoy it because I appreciate in his absence. How much I enjoyed talking it so I didn't get to actually my buddy ben this week and I wish I could. I revel in the opportunity to talk to you because I don't get shocked you as much as I would like to. And it makes me appreciate all the good work that then and dylan due to edit these episodes because when Ben has gone I sub for him and not always as early as you might hope or expect and it makes me realize the production that goes into getting effectively wild out three times a week. So I decided express some appreciation for for all of you because Ben's absences had that sort of mine for me. Some of their you. Huzzah them. So having said Nice things we will now take a quick break and on the other end of this we will have our interview with Alex. Bear the Boston Globe out the Boston. Red Sox one and Jane Defense and now. We will discuss the Boston Red Sox and to do that. We are joined by the Boston Globe. Alex Kerr Alex how are you? I am just great. I am back in my home away from away from big little which is yeah are you. We're while we're doing well. I am also in my home so you know we have that in common. I think before we talk about the state of the Roster and the outlook for twenty twenty. I wanted to ask you about the atmosphere. In Camp. That you have just gotten back from obviously. This team has been in a state of change for the last several months of public state of change. They fired their general manager. They had to fire their manager. They traded away. Mookie Betts and David price than they almost didn't than they actually did and against all of that the leaks punishment for the red sox. Signs ceiling is still looming. So I'm curious. What's the atmosphere like in camp? And how have the players are dealt with what I imagine is pretty distracting? Start to the season will on top of that on top of all. That changed the already noted I. There is also the kind of strangeness of Red Sox having the largest big recanted. I can remember that happened usually. They've been Rosalie low. In the mid fifties to upper fifties in terms of number players camps. In this year as they pursue attended different motive roster building remnants more opportunistic and us. You know those final spots of the forty niners auto consequential there are sixty eight people in camps and they had to bring in temporary lockers and John and have a much more crowded workplace environment so in terms of other handling it now that they are into baseball activities like on a daily basis. It's team it's where my supposed to go. And when Logan Zero Games there that that's all kind of that's that's on lugging athlete cruise control. But at the same time. It is Julia different place to be showing up right. There's not a lot of music on daily basis. It's not allowed in the clubhouse as you're accustomed to here we were familiar with each other on different sides of a room. They're still ethic. Pretty obviously a feeling out process among the players for each other and trying to make sense of the fact that there is a pretty considerable amounts of change supported in a small period of time. And they don't really know very well our hearts of that trade no of whether time blue who's made a real point of trying to get to know a lot of the players that nonetheless there's only so much you can do when your life is consumed per month by you know training rookie. Bats in David. Brussels well is higher than the manager which didn't expect her. I think that there's I I would say that. The best way to describe the group as I've experienced it time that I have been down in two separate. Stints is uninformed is kind of an employee state that does that awaits definition. And not sure exactly how could that definitions has? The definition is changing is essentially an ongoing fashion while they find out things. Like oh Chris Sale. Who said that he felt awesome is certainly navy not going to maybe going to be missing a substantial to a substantial chunk of plenty plenty in perhaps Ali so these are strange days as I mentioned. They're still a very big piece of this off season puzzle that has yet to completely materialized. We have an update on when the ORG is GonNa learn what their punishment is for science dealing not really the game keeps getting kicked down the road. I think that we ever insisted that it was going to be done before. Officials startled spin training and then rob Manfred seven recording to be. John will ever for the February. That's no longer the case. Then you know the kind of maybe this week in so I guess that was points until until it's until it's released I am going converted. They're they're continuing to researching the Union thought a couple of weeks ago the dumber research of it unnatural. That's the case anymore. Although I will say this that part of things that doesn't affect the twenty twenty except for a mess Ron Reinecke gets named Going to happen than it would really affect. What's happening in the preparations for twenty twenty? It's more of an ex post facto redefinition of what agent didn't do with consequences for twenty twenty one Niaz. I WANNA ask a slightly more specific version of maze. Question which is are the red SOx players mad that Mukhi bets got traded because the one of the things that players ask their front offices is to get more players that they've heard of and that they think are good in that they think are going to win and so I would think just like from a messaging standpoint to the clubhouse. This is the sort of thing that you sometimes think could really send a message that players would be angry at being sent not just disappointed. The team's going to be a little bit worse but actually angry that this is the message that was sent to them. Is that simmering? I don't think so I. I haven't got mud fronts. I have gotten the sense that you know. They're they're wondering what life are. GonNa to be like Zander. Bogart's kind of unprompted. The everyday referred to the pressure of of the team Mayfield to address. His void but very candidly like they are the team. The members of the team who've been around are mostly really well paid heavily at at a certain point recognized that there was going to be some kind of a financial reckoning that occurred. I think there had been a lot of talk in mccomb house at Uruguay about contract status in. Who's getting wider on Major League? Baseball and I think that there was. There was no understanding that came out of that that there was a pretty decent chance that mookie. I not resign in that. Were they. Were going to be questions about. His long-term future in Boston. Similar players said can read before they broke up at the end of turning eighteen. They thought that murky web traded. Because of what might be and how many other ones they had were. You know sale at Bogart's joining me. Twenty plus million dollars a year club. I've already featured JD. Martinez David Price and almost native is making some team. Only about yourself. I think that there is. There is a bit of a business savvy about the idea that he's gone. I think that there was a love expectation of the possibility that mookie might eventually get down so I don't think that there I I don't think there was like tremendous Shah Actual this possibility talking about even in red sox going back for a while so I mean if a team that were you know like projected to be a fourth place team or to win. Seventy two games traded their superstar year before free agency. We would be. We'd be pretty used to that. And part of what makes this such kind of confounding trade to to analyze or to have emotions about well. Actually I don't feel confounded about. I think I would rather they not traded him. But it's confounding in a way because it's not quite clear. What the Red Sox are so? I'm looking at the red sox starting rotation right now and they have their number. Two Starter is Nathan Volley. Who was a disastrous? Last year was not healthy but also very very very bad. And then you have which is true. I mean I mean I'm I'm not saying he can't be good again. I like him. But extreme. But not metric characterization twenty season and that you've got Martine Perez who had six point two seven era in the second half and six point two two era the year before. And you know is not really anybody's idea of a sure thing healthwise either. And then you have Ryan Weber. Who is a twenty nine year old former twenty second round pick with one hundred and twelve career innings in eighty seven career? Era Plus and. He's the number four starter and then as it is right now if. We're assuming that Chris Sale is unavailable. There is not a listed fifth starter and that seems like you read that and you think well that's a that is a rebuilding team team that needs to figure some things out before they're going to be competitive again. And then you sorta go over to the websites and whether you know depending on which site you're at they project to be something like an eighty five to eighty nine win team with something like thirty five to fifty percent playoff odds which puts them in a camp with like basically the braves and the as and the cardinals and the cubs and Cleveland that that sort of zone of teams. And so if you buy those odds than it feels really weird. You know to trade. You're you're superstar your best player and that's without even getting into the fact that most of this core was there when they one hundred and eight games two years ago so I guess the question is and this is kind of jumping Edna podcasts. A little bit. Because we're GonNa make you tell US exactly how wins they're gonNA they're gonNA have this year? Do you buy like does anything about those projections. Seem fishy to you or does that seem kind of about right. Is this truly a competitive team with a still even without mookie betts a pretty good shot a shot at the playoffs and enough strengths? Everywhere else to overwhelm that rotation weakness. Well so I think the most of the projections were formed before Chris. Sale Chris. Sale suffered his His physical his physical setback day. Where he threw batting practice. A Little Chris after two hundred days of not facing hitters. He got onto the mound was really excited and looks pretty good throwing to a couple of you know to a right handed hitter and left handed hitter in a live batting. Practice session never was really encouraged in the next day. He felt soreness in his elbow. So powered alter calculus right because most projections factor in the idea of Chris sale is a relatively healthy at jer. In the fact that you're probably already now looking at you know the best case scenario. I would be awfully surprised if we saw Chris sale before. May Guy that alters the calculus especially given the drop off your. You're like it's not like there's a placement level pitcher to call up in order to fill in that spot you're looking at probably at below replacement level pitcher and maybe a drastically below replacement level pitcher in terms of in terms of where that gap goes in. So I think that there's there's a significant downward projection even for missing a month a month and a half two months Chris Sale. But if you look at them on paper right if you look at if you just look at the lineup. You've without rookie bets. You can see awfully. We'll see how compelling team in terms of what the lineup to do in terms of a potential dynamism. Andrew Benintendi had ten about from a year last year like he acknowledged the Atacama Year if ideal kind of inter benintendi baseball shape. And so okay back. Not In the best shape of his life but The shape of his life that led to his best year in two thousand. Eighteen is still have zehnder bogart's and Rafael Devers. Jd Martinez three elite enters in the middle of the lineup. And that there's there's a lot of offensive talents in group so from that standpoint. You know that's impressive. Their bullpen. Which was off maligned. Last year is actually it features a ton of high strikeout guys who probably watched too many people that's making your home runs more consequential than they should have otherwise been but the stuff is really really good and they were. Actually I think pretty interesting group in the second half of the season. They just didn't have as many games where they were trying to preserve leads late so I I think that you know I've seen weird things happen. Balsam right like I've I've covered red sox for. This is my Nike season in particularly in the last decade. I saw I saw the red sox wildly over perform under perform their projections into. It's kind of. It was an idea that bencher talked about back when. I was doing my book. Shameless self-promotion about the kind of feedback labs can exist in Boston where the intensity of the environment can really kind of caused the team to spiral in one direction or number base sometimes sometimes on early season factors so you throw in like a youth. Rona weirdness such as Bobby Valentine and it seemed it looks on paper like that eighty five win projection becomes a out seventy win teen and you throw in. You know something more positive or you throw in something unifying let such a great clubhouse culture in response to a devastating citywide occurrence tragedy in the farm marathon bombing twenty thirteen. And you have team wildly over performs its projections again. Cultural Change in two thousand eighteen along with edition of JD. Martinez leaves seem the PRI- projects to be in the low nineties in its run todos in two one hundred eight wind territory. So I'd seen enough to think okay to know that I shouldn't dismiss the possibility of contention but it seems like there are you know. But it's it's it's a diminished rebuff. Offensively can offset some some of that demonstration by virtue of bounce backs from guys wonder performed last year and the pitching staff was already diminished. Thanks to the absence of price for four sales injuries. Let's stick on the pitching staff for a second because one of their. It seems strange to say this routine that Delta Way the two thousand Eighteen v people apart from a couple of smaller signings. They were pretty quiet when it came to free agents this off season. One of their edition was Martine Perez. Who had a really strange season for the twins? He was really good in the early going. just led by that devastating cutter and then faded pretty dramatically as the season wore on. I think the duration of his deal with the Red Sox probably answers part of my question here but what are their expectations for him. Going into the season I view him as being someone with upside beyond what to do in twenty nineteen that you referenced which was new pitch for villages in grades is a really really good niche if you look at the stats like you know. Extra MINUS WOVE OFF. He had one of the biggest disparities nulla baseball Versus the outcomes that content generated they. They think that there are some small tweet sue pitches. I think their hope is that he'd be kind of a decent innings. Eater he will. He was that he was reliable. Rotation LAST YEAR UNHEALTHY. Who was able to give them somewhere in the vicinity of League average performance. I think they'd be thrilled by that that I think that you know. They're they're not looking at him to the front of the rotation guy with huge upside. They think is better than that. Six Plus your a of last year even though you're pretty closely the six plus. Yara the previous year because the euro cloudy So I they're they're believers that he's he's better back guy. How much butter Wilson? Who has a quick one? You don't have to go into detail about them. But I went through the two three and four starters and let's presume that sale isn't available and let's also presume that as happens with every team's pitching staff you end up needing a sixth seventh and eighth if Ryan Weber is the fourth starter are the fifth sixth and seventh options right now as they need to get more depth. Yeah this is one of the point of this is. This is a Bosnian exercise at a day to day. Basis it's You know where the anonymous the relatively unknown people enter into the Middle Laden of Of Spring Training Games in when they start getting multi innings. You like Oh for Perth rotation for a bucket offering. The caveat is going to be an awful lot of consideration demons using an opener role in in some in some form or another based on the personnel. They have not a guarantee but certainly a lot of consideration beyond that so Ryan Weber is talked about quite a bit as one of the potential starting pitching candidates. You need a few starts for them last year. Basically need one really start for them in a couple of starts warranted for them. Ya Bad Chris Maza is they. Cram off waivers from the mets. They think they think has a pitch makes a little more upside than general past. He's a slider cutter guy who also kind of shows. The change doesn't draw much and then there were having incorporated foresee Mertz change levels fun stuff like that but again this is like a journeyman guy was lowest in India Bali couple of years ago so not exactly the type of guy he necessarily competing heating for one of the fives rotations. Lots Matt Holland. Other guy bounced around a little bit was gaining some consideration for back of the rotation spots. They have one homegrown starter. Who's probably never actually two guys Were more familiar making some consideration. Ten our health is funny. Seventeen first round pick. Who has a really good to sumer really good cider especially against right in hitters has always been consistent? It's lefties if he can locate to do a better job. Canadian side or against lefties them can be pretty good. Against ice both sides plight he also has a usable if inconsistent change out central time trial. So He's a guy who could get a bit of a look in a year where the red sox expect more of their homegrown guys are gonNA get loves than in past years and that Brian. Jobson someone who's GonNa Stop Starter across? Who May get some further? Who may get some further? Love Spring training progresses. If he's healthy which he has always been always been and if his stuff is from a brother Julius so you went into detail about them thank you. I didn't. I'm sorry I did both our Damn I was supposed to be. That's not my forte. I'm sorry everyone wanted to hear about Kris Mazda and a lot of weight. He is the he's related to. Joe Dimaggio Wow. Wow really yeah. Their Way His his grandmother. Will I think that they have? I think he might have lineage by his. His grandmother was first cousins. Joe Maggio and Dom Dimaggio did you have you. Have you heard that Martha Stewart Babysat Yogi. Berra's kids oh no. I hadn't expected I read that one and I've been spent on the tip of my tongue about a thousand times over the last like seven months and I finally just set it so that I will never have to think. When's the right time to say this? Well usual target just for you. Josh Burns the Assistant of the of the I don't know what his titles that. Jospin's of the dodgers from office was babysat by Julia. Louis Dreyfuss algae to grow up Martha Stewart also wrote the foreword to Snoop Dogg's cookbook on effectively wild. Wow Wow I really in for cookbook. I was GONNA say just like step one. Open the bag of doritos. You're done all right when I was a kid. Speaking of being babysat kind of when I was a kid. It seemed like there were a lot of storylines about how somebody was replacing. Somebody else and there was a lot of pressure on them to replace like somebody else you know like the Clark would leave. And then whoever was playing first base for the giants had like a ton of pressure on him to replace Will Clark or there was a trade. And there'd be a ton of pressure to replace whoever they'd been traded for and I don't really feel like we hear that that much maybe it's because players move around a lot more or maybe we're smarter with our narratives or what but it really does feel like if you're gonNA have a perfect case for that. It might be Alex for Dugo who is now having to replace. Mookie Betts in the same position and also who is You know was was traded for him in this trade that I think a lot of people are probably going to remember being upset about for a long time so I don't know if the existence of jeeter downs as well in that trade dilutes. How much of the weight of it of justifying it is on Alex Rodrigo. I don't know if those sorts of having to replace a player pressure's still exist in the modern age or not. But does it feel to you like there is a lot of pressure on Alex Rodrigo? I asked particularly because of the Boston feedback loop that you mentioned about seven minutes ago. Is there a potential that there is a serious Boston feedback loop on Alex? Verdoux go if he is you know hitting to forty in a mid June or something initially no. I don't I don't get that sense in part because he has been visible using singing about what who has as stress fracture in his lower vacuum for last season and from which is still recovering. He's pretty close to start in this one but he hasn't been he's no he's not he's not going to be in Games. Lma couple of days so by virtue like he's there there's not a microscope eye- were when you can put someone on the slide. They can't be under my concern so for now. There's there is not. I think that certain will be considerable. Amount of scrutiny to his performance actually is on the field right now. I I would say that most of the notion. No one is selling Alex. Verdoux go as eager worm Which helps I do think that he will become a little bit more nuanced in how to approach a hundred percent. What about the pressure on Kevin Pillar who is signed job Or at least to the four th outfielder to hopeless onto is viewed when I win for do not available but from what. I've I've been told by people who know him from his time with the dodgers like Virginia. Actually a person who really relishes. Onfield challenges. Who who really rights attention writes it. Spotlight scrutiny. Ends tends to perform better fat so I. I think that he's like he's been asked about in that question them out like you know. Will there be any pressure to remove easy faces pressure like going to a new market just traded a lot of not just traded lot. No in order to Norbert Fire Hymns World Series. So from everything that I've that I've heard about for Daego. People think that he's actually a pretty good on field match to the scrutiny of Boston yields software High expectations has kind of portering. Parking to gain Tends to big may be helpful in terms of dealing will those kinds of expeditions if he performs poorly and of course you know go about us to be elevated somewhat by the twenty five of them up an injury the entire organization. Robson softens notches on Hank. One place where we have seen a little bit of scrutiny. Going INTO THAT TRADE. I mean obviously was heavily scrutinized trade but specific to Redo go. He is a guy who has had throughout his career. Some makeup off field concerns and I'm curious how the team I know that it has been addressed by the organization publicly but I'm curious how they're talking about those issues and if he were a little bit surprised maybe see him as the centerpiece of this deal given those concerns. What he came up I definitely was more a was it was. It was no way surprising because I I've got a lot of risks to be assuming given you know given that he has been given that he's been mentioned in connection with an alleged alleged sexual assaults in one who is in the models of not having been a participant sort but having been When he was in the minor when he was in the minor leagues now questions about whether or not he did whether Matt he earning this. This is a massive allegation right. He denies it. He denies that he was aware of anything. Did Anything Michael Sexual Assault was for? Mommy denies that he was aware of red. Sub Sperm. You termed was a physical assault was going on as well says that it was mindful enough to handle that he's questions dodgers to the admissions office to make sure about love's Worm June something. That would test them in in our horrendous light in all stages V. Very wrong headed. Bob May like unacceptable. So they're the word that lag time bloom use of did they did not find the based on their diligence. They didn't find disqualifying background in. They had taken these questions seriously by. Yes there's that question right which is run by the ones in the public eye and again like I. Virginia says that like you know as as as well biking was never applicable report in having any criminal activity. That doesn't mean that it. It's great judgmental. Veneer anything bad. That happened but he says he was unaware of anything. So it's it's hard like in Orlando so anyway by Virtue. Pastorin have real questions about his. You're right there are other meet up questions related surveys Buckingham Move Ins by about effort level about whether mountains doing the right thing but before on South Poor seasons in for games and thus whether or not he would even maximizes talents and also created questions about like. Okay is this. Is this guy who you when you talk about the five years of service time that you're going to get for someone who's a very talented fire. Someone who last year was nearly above average everyday outfielder in baseball by injury concerns. Various off your concerns. That's a lot of risks to take on with regards to this touchstone trade with the red SOx nude so yeah I I think I think there's wrist it's happening here on earth Guy I think it does give a little bit of a window into the fact that time bloom is not necessarily use a risk taker like the combination of you. Go IN BRUCE. Dot Grotto as two pronged term is a high risk one. I think but I think that the red sox also nerve desire to evoke near-term sovereignty was the only player will be offered. Who's capable of being above average everyday majorly jitter in twenty twenty in probably twenty twenty one in talks surrounded? Talk more fun thing now. Which is and. I think that we are right to be skeptical of single season defensive as a rule but RAFAEL DEVERS DEFENSIVE. Metrics really turned around last year. There was concerned about him as a prospect all along the way because of the body that he might eventually have to shift a first and then some of the early returns in his major league. Career looked a little spotty but by our metrics by outs above average at stack cast. He had a pretty impressive season fields. And I'm curious what changes if any led to that SORTA turnaround and what you're expecting from him from a field perspective. This year so foremost I would say that. It's you know it's exposure to the major league environment. Like I think that you know a lot of times infielders fly through the minors end up being kind of overwhelmed by the clock of the Big League game when they get there. I actually so I've I've watched never quite a bit dating back to when he was seventeen years old and are we stop it like. He had really really interesting quick feet. That would play well into being a guy will range really strong arm The accuracy of his arm was was was sometimes. Purchase in the same is probably true of the position was footwork. But you know if you if you step back from activities in the big leagues to looking at him as like. Oh this is like a terrific twenty one year old. Then you're like okay. Well let's see what he looks like at twenty two twenty three so I think that mostly experiences allowed him to have a better plot for the game and there are just natural significant gains. That have happened as a result of that. Like remember the ball in the minors Rafael Devers never played with the measly. Boa is the miners through the moves of the triple. A bottle last year and Rafael Devers for that played. Nine Games is ablaze. So the way that the ball come off the bat for ground balls in AAA AA. And you know hiding signal was well different than it was in at the major league level in a way that permits a kind of comfort. Like couple that with the fact that you have these kinds of monsters were regularly hitting one hundred ten mile an hour rockets at you in the old. I just think that the the clock of the big league game defensively especially at third base. Where you're so proximate to the To the plate takes a good while to set for a guy who's flew to the miners that he made a lot of that adjustment and allowed. Some of those strong traits will be arm and especially for in Iraq. I just calibrate a little bit better than the big league level of pretty natural progression that everyone was witnessing were these kind of promising raw materials formed into something that is not finished was certainly more than two more than we will. We'll let you get out of here on. The first is sort of a broader competitive window question. Which is you know. The Yankees are the Yankees. The rays have one of the best systems in baseball and the Blue Jays irs showing signs of their young core coming together. This team seemed to approach this off season with austerity mind. Resetting their luxury tax threshold and we can interrogate how useful a desire that is. Let's let's just take it at face value for a moment. Where does this team see itself long term in terms of its competitive landscape? And when do you think they might start to pull out that? Sturdy posture wrote the quote unquote. Austerity posture was equally. Are I think that they wanted to resent right like they're you know? They were in a position where they were maintained. Some of fifty and ninety five cents on the dollar for every dollar spent beyond the luxury tax threshold this coming year. And that they you know they they right to resent their penalty rates. In order to be able to feel better I think about their invite investments in the victory club. Roughly one out of every three years so actually answered that that part I they they reset in twenty seventeen. It got a lot of noticed at the time was quickly forgotten revised two years because they need massive investments in the aftermath of essentially the reset one year. Then they spend them to spend pretty aggressively in order vehicles around Roster right like David. Ortiz retire Acquired Chris Sale because that will allow them to eat Remaining under the luxury tax threshold within the next year JD Martinez the next year. Resign of all these signs in progress to the long-term zero so i. I think that they're probably in. This runs every three years cycle of getting under the luxury tax threshold. We'll have to see what the next. Cva Let's like shy in how that changes the incentives provincial. Stay in or get out of that cycle but I think that they like. There are additional penalties on top of the luxury tax threshold. That meant that if they were to maintain what was their twenty eighteen to twenty nine hundred levels of spending over the course of twenty twenty two twenty twenty two it would have ended up spending roughly a hundred million dollars more than if they got under. This year will return to the Priors ending levels in twenty twenty one right so like business owners care about one hundred laws. It's not around in. So there's there's that there's also a separate Which is you mentioned. The strong kind of Talon places that exist the Yankees the major league level. I'm not really the minor league level in more raise certainly with regards to both age leander upper levels of the farm system bluejays. They have a wave coming. The Red Sox did not have. We'll have some interesting upside. Plays moving into lower minute. They have a guy here agai their reach the upper levels as a as possible like an everyday guy in Navy didn't have above average every day or rotation regular pasta for the last problems so they serve need emergency back to the to their view as I'd sustainable competitiveness Reeves Zoo refilled the pipeline to jeter towns in the upper levels and for that matter lower levels by the trade of movie bats and David Price Day largely refilled with the upper levels. That is what they view are all serious needs to improve the inventory. Either Major League ready ripe for Dugo or mere major league ready with guys like you to downs in panel so I think they see themselves. Long-term as being they view themselves as being of competitors by acknowledging the engines are low on paper are of a much more impulsive projecting images this year and there was a degenerative Andres as well but I think they feel pretty good about where they were Medina Beyond or not GonNa let you get out of here without giving a prediction. So Al what. He is seeing his red SOx join. What's their record for? Twenty twenty one evacuee. We don't know how much time salesman now all right. Well okay. That's our let's see so I I had I had I had actually initially from one went ahead of where they were last year. They were eighty four. Zero is going to go in five however based on the fact that saleswoman. This is going to miss at least in my mind. I've I've kind of pegged again waiting for information on if he's missing six weeks to start the year two months than bumped down. I'm going with an eighty one winner. Judges I'll boy. Boston might burn down with that. Well you can follow along for the Boston season with Alex's writing at the Boston Globe and on twitter at Alex Spirit and you can order his book which I have read and Ken confirm his excellent homegrown. How the Red Sox built a championship from the ground up cycle. I'm sure they'll look to replicate and we'll have you back on soon. Thanks a lot. Alex right naked. Sam retyping do you does gets through. The giants went on and sixty to eighty nine. Grab cars and homes were TA and games or dissuading on two teams to now. We're going to discuss the San Francisco giants and do that. Hopefully Ryan's GONNA discuss. The giants. Cr was ready to do a very serious introduction off this one's been weighing on me all day. Make his all day. Yeah yeah tough. One Hits a tough one and to help us sort through that difficulty. We have invited friend of the PODCAST. Front all really a grant brisby of the athletic to join us and talk about some baseball grant. How are you? I'm doing very well buddy. If you can't talk about them for an hour or whatever like think about writing about them all year do you. I have I was wondering. Are you at an age now? I'm at that age and I feel like you might be. Are you in an age now where you can just kind of embrace a noncompetitive team like it's just like finally the world has quieting down and just relax in your couch and and throw all ambition aside and and just exist with a bunch of New People that you don't really know that well and like you can just embrace that like nothing's happening anymore? Yup It is. It's it's okay you know it's it's it's not so bad when they're not doing great it's a hand it's not so bad when they're not doing great Yeah let me part that I had I am under the weather so I was about to cough inside. Muted it in. So that's where the weather was pregnant pause. That was very awkward. It's not so bad when they're anyways. Yeah no I would prefer them to do well. It gets everyone more excited it gets. It's easier to write about a team. That's doing well a team that's thriving you've got your kind of feeding off of that that reader energy even if you're desperately desperately not reading the comments you still know what's there in theory and that is fun but it's also fun just to be like one of this. Mike You stransky Guy's GonNa work and then when it does a wink wink. This is fun you know. And there's no pressure there's no stakes you're not saying this guy's going to be around in an all star for five years. It's just fun and sometimes I like fun. Do you think that might be trump's? He's going to be around and in all star five years because that was like the great one of the great things about lad skiers that might stransky out hit Ronald Kunia and And like it was a huge heroic acquisition by far on and and same with Dickerson and same with Solano. Do any of those. Do you think that there's any any like lasted? I guess what I'm saying. Is that last year? There were positive takeaways during the season. Do you think that they are positive? Takeaways from last season for this season or were those little like a little chunks of cookie dough in the one milkshake. I I think that they are maybe not individually. I am not going to sit here. And say Oh. Yeah you stem ski. That guy is going to be just the glue of the twenty four giants. You you just sit and watch you know Donovan Solano. I don't remember the exact exact statistic but I think he's top ten of batting average and balls in of all time but like all time any team last year he was like four nineteen is heavy set the parameters for like two hundred plate appearances or something. He's up there top all time batting average on balls in play which probably isn't sustainable. But if you look at them like as a proof of concept that they're gonNA keep plugging people in and finding value where it it might have been a little hidden. They're going to dust off some some things from the Curio shop. I like the overall sort of. Yeah you know. They're going to try things and they generally have a pretty good idea of what makes a good baseball player compared to perhaps some of the other organizations in the League so as a whole it was encouraging. If you're going start nitpicking every individual player yet they all have their own little flaws and they were all available for reason but I think as a whole it sort of made everyone think okay. That's good work. I can see it. We coordinate our questions. We really tempted to play fast and loose on here. I don't know I don't know. I think it's perfectly fine to stumble around twenty twenty giants preview like you just. This is tyron model. Sometimes you hit Stransky. Sometimes you've got I don't know the equivalent does on the other side but Solano Yeah. He's the twelfth highest BABB SINCE THE DEAD BALL era writers in the live ball era and five of the ones ahead of him were in the nineteen twenties which was close to the baller. So seventh if you say since like the murderers row than he seventh which is one of those things where you kind of. Don't want to say it out loud to watch not a great indicator. Yeah I you know I appreciate his bat ball skills and there's a lot to like. He's good defensively versatile. Jags not GonNa do that again. All those babs from back then like they played with the like the skull of steer unpolished in everyone in the field. Think we talked about this. Last now everyone had rickets every single. Baseball player had the drops in rickets and they didn't eat vitamins in Liberia. Yes this why batting average on balls and plays so different back then because everyone was ganglion sickly but so Solano Great Greg Task. You're actually those are actual baseball questions. But can I. Can I steer US a little bit? Turn provides them staring so one thing that I think we all are curious about. Grant is your personal experience of the Gape Kappler era. And how has your life change since you were introduced to Gabe? Geffen as he made you work out with him yet. Nobody's made me work out with them. Come on I'd area. So yeah yeah well right now I do but no at first I was affected because I wrote about it and I got a lot of email messages some support of some not direct messages stuff like that and it was very much in my brain at all times now. I don't necessarily think about it. It's kind of I have the privilege to not think about it. It's it's not that comes across every time reviewing a lineup or thinking about a move the giants might make or what the batting order might be timmy. It's it's just like he's another manager right now. Insofar well you know there is one difference in that when the giants lineup is announced at Spring Training. It's very awkward. Because it's not. There's no booze really. It's just silence. And you're used to Bruce Bocce getting as loud of an ovation as like Pablo Sandoval or share hunter pence whatever. And now it's just sort of In it's a collective yeah you know and you know have heard a couple hecklers but it's generally not negative. It's just an absence of positive that that's a little strange other than that. I. I'm sure when he starts losing or if the giant unexpectedly start winning there will be a lot more discussion of the merits of one gig Adler but I mean when he got hired so much of the discussion in in what you wrote about and your immediate response to it was about the you know what he the way that he handled the salt. Case involving dodgers minor leaguers when he was in charge of the Farm System. And the you know sort of ongoing questions about that in the weather. He has demonstrated growth from that and so on. So I think that that was a lot of ways the most important conversation to have at the time and I sort of feel like lost in all that we didn't talk that much about what he is like as a manager what we've now seen from him as a manager and you know as all managers. I don't notice them that much. Over the course of the season they do thousands and thousands of of actions. That are out of my view in that I never really think about and so I don't have strong opinions about most managers. What I know about Kappler as a manager as phillies manager is that he got fired after two years and that he oversaw two teams that you know probably were considered to have underperformed and so if he weren't Gabler if it weren't a name that we knew I think people would be surprised to see that manager immediately. Get another job immediately. Get another shot. Especially if that's his only experience and so have you dug in much into his managerial style and how he did as a phillies manager in what differentiated him and whether you feel you know baggage aside whether you feel that he is like a good manager right. Yeah that's a fair question. I it does speak to his capabilities that the phillies GM. Which I don't think I've ever said this out loud Matt Cleantech. Clint cut. That's right. Okay Yeah I'm awesome. That he wanted it back he wanted. Kappler back in you know. That's the narrative at least that it was an ownership driven change the GM was totally on board and wanted to keep capital around in and also speaks to campers viability. That four hundred eighty. Who before this higher was generally in universally seen as sort of a guru sort of you know? He had his finger on something that hadn't been in San Francisco and a while that he was able to find these. These discarded gems that he was able to to reset kind of the whole minor league organization to have this newfound emphasis on patients that for whatever reason he was pushing all these right buttons in. He's a bright guy and affable guy and for whatever reason he thought Kappler was the guy to replace Bruce Bocce which is a hard job to fill that that's as beloved as a manager can be in a city and so when you're picking the replacement you want to be pretty darn sure you've got it right so he's got the backing of two. Pretty Smart Baseball Smarty Pants and when I dig into his style. I'm not sure how much to make of it. Because one of the things that's eighty said in his sort of a giant postmortem at the end of the year before we knew it was Kappler but Andy bagger elite. My colleague was listing and said Oh this sounds like Kappler and he said you know we're going to look at some managers who have maybe done this before with with limited success who might have learned from their mistakes and Kappler is very. He talks about the mistakes. He might have made where he came into it. Full Analytical Full Gist. Let's go let's. Let's do this by the numbers I can convince anyone. I can make a believer anyone just based on the numbers being right and then he realize well I got to back off on that just a little bit because these are humans you know he. He gave the sort of come to. I don't know what the opposite of Bill James's come to come to baseball as a moment where he said. Okay I need to get these guys to buy in to what I'm selling and I can do that was stats but I can also do that. With sort of individual approaches figuring out how to communicate with these guys in so he feels at the end of his phillies tenure that he was communicating a lot. Better and going by the stats and and doing this. Sort of thing where he's a new job sabre manager and he believes that he's found a balance right now whether or not that's the case it's the dream to have that Dallas. So whether or not he. He's done that. This remains to be seen. I will note that in the spring. The giants have been really wildly aggressive on the basis tagging up from second to third. No Fly Ball Taken off seconds when there's a ball in the dirt really really aggressive and I don't know if that's just a spring thing or if it's GonNa last but it's been fun to wash spring so this team last year kind of found itself in the awkward position of having a pretty good record around the trade deadline. They were famously reticent to undecided not to Trade Madison Bumgarner and then they did the thing that we all Kinda thought they would do which is not make the postseason in the second half so they were trying to learn something about themselves last year and now they're in a position where I think they're probably you know the the front offices. Understanding of their competitive position is probably in line with ownerships understanding. And so everyone is clear eyed and this is a season where they're going to also try to find out some stuff and they have a number of young dudes on the roster and then some pieces that are clearly not can be part of the next competitive giants team grant. What is like the most important thing for this twenty twenty giants team to find out about itself as it's looking ahead to? Its next competitive window. Good question I would say that. It's it's mostly how to fold in the next generation because this is that transition year where you're GONNA have Elliott Ramadan. Enjoy Bart in a perfect world jelly. You'RE GONNA try to fold them in to maybe contribute to a twenty twenty one team. That's going to contend. I don't know if you can guarantee that. The twenty twenty one giants will contend. It might be a little optimistic bud. They have a lot of young talent in some of it will be in. The upper miners have a fair amount of money to spend with Crawford Belt and some Arja. Their money's coming off the books after twenty twenty one. They might get a jump on that spending before they leave. You have in the recent history baseball starting with like the nationals. When they were so bad that could draft Strasbourg and Harper. And you saw that wave of talent coming and then it was sort of a year early. And that's been the pattern. I think with the cubs the astros the braves the twinned where you see that that crest prospects is sort of common up and you're pointing to and go a high that's GonNa come soon and then all of a sudden you're just soaked in prospects and fun and they're winning a year ahead of schedule. That's like the best case scenario for the giants so if that even has a remote chance of happening it's definitely not the likeliest scenario but if it has a chance they're going to figure out the players in their minor league system that they can count on for next year whether that's Joey Barred Jelly Ramos. Anyone in everyone who can help. They're just figuring out how fold them in this year as organically as possible. Remember Ben wrote a piece a number of years ago about teams with old lineups and I believe he found that the teams that had the oldest lineups in the league. It was usually either. They were in a really good spot like they were the favorites that like their players were all mature and awesome or they were in really bad. Spot and giants last year had the oldest average hitter age in baseball. Despite being you know theoretically semi rebuilding. And they're going to be really old this year too. If you just for the most part they've still got Posey and bell and Crawford and Longoria who are all in their mid thirties and the breakouts last year the you know the quote unquote young breakouts. Last year were like Stransky is going to be twenty nine and Dickerson is going to be thirty and hunter pence's back and there's another thousand years worth of players that I haven't even named they're very old and I assume I mean you know not not. I assume it is a fact that a goal of this next few years for the giants will be to get to the far side of that leaderboard into one of the youngest teams at the end of this. How long is it GonNa take to to get young? Do you think given who they have in. Sort of what the organizational depth is. What do you envision it being like for the next couple of years? It's not gonNA be so easy to get young because other than Bart in other than awesome outfielders. I'm not seeing a shortstop third baseman First Baseman who you can plug in for twenty twenty one and say oh. Yeah that guy's GonNa be ready. I don't worry about that so you you bought Longoria some time Crawford a little bit of time belt a little bit of time. Crawford might be the closest to getting replaced because Marie Soo do von does play a competent shortstop and that transition is probably gonNA start taking place this year. Where you're GONNA see on it in there a lot against tough left-handers and then it might be. If he's doing well enough you might see it sort of progress to all left-handers and and then if you see it progress a little bit while he's in for some right handers to. They're trying to make him into this neo. Chris Taylor where he's he's in center field is in second he's he's a short but I also think that there's an opportunity for him if he's hitting well to sort of quietly assimilates shortstop position and that that might work Crawford. I don't see anything on the horizon for Longoria for belt with Posey pretty obvious. You've got Bart right there. It's going to be up at some point this year unless something really screw happens injury wise or performance wise so you can see that transition. That's going to start to take place and it's it's not a bad thing when you have two catchers to fight for playing time because you want as much as possible but it's not gonna be an overnight thing we're just like you wake up. Wow everyone's twenty-five it's it's GonNa take it you know it's not just the legacy players that don't have necessarily the best guys to to fill in for those legacy players just yet and I mean. Is it your expectation that Posey and belt and Crawford and Longoria will all finish their contracts as giants that like? There's not a sense that they're a month and a half of you know like one hot month and a half away from being traded or anything like that. I could definitely see belt getting traded especially with the fences coming in and more importantly for belts coming down. You know he's not going to have to hit over a seventy eight foot high wall or whatever to get it out right center at least two to the deepest part of Right-center so I can see you know. He looks great this spring. I could see his numbers being superficially better. Last year was down year by any metric. I could see him getting back to the level. He was before that where. If you adjusted for Ballpark he was pretty darn okay. And if the giants enough money it's not like he's making thirty million he's he's he's under twenty and if the giant some of that. I could definitely see him helping a team. That has a need that comes up with an injury or a disappointing performance. You know I've always. I've been putting him on the Yankees for like three years now. It's like come on. Yeah he's just here to take the belt. Let them free. He's he's his feathers too. Bright for this cage. Come on come on. Just take a ticket brandon bell so I can see that finally happening this year Crawford not so much. I don't think there's that magic combination of we will pay this down for a better prospect Longoria. He's under contract. I think for three more years which is hard to believe. Posey'S GONNA stick around until he basically forces a trade. I don't see him going anywhere while he's under contract. So belt would be a yes. Longoria probably Crawford probably not in Posey pretty much no way. I'll talk about Bart for a second because you say he's come up this year and I'm curious you expect his timeline to look clearly the service time consideration. Because he's not going to be a contending team and I imagine they're reticent to start his clock but also he you know he was injured like in the fall rate. So how has he looked in spring so far and Wendy? I think that we might see him in San Francisco. He looked good in the spring. As far as you can see his in Game Bauer. I do think that the giants will bring them up whenever they think that he's ready to assume a starting job. I don't think they're going to Dick around with the service time of you know they haven't done that in the past a notes a new front office but it hasn't necessarily been their mo it certainly hasn't come from ownership so it's going to be when he's ready to starter the end. I do believe that there's enough concern with his hit tool that you don't want to jump on that right away we're talking. I don't know a hundred two hundred at bats above able. He wasn't so great in a ball he had an extended slump in San Jose and there was some concern that the second or third time around the colleague that some pitcher some coaches sorta new where they should pitch him when he got to the Eastern League. Everyone forgotten you. Start drinking again to get to the Arizona Fall League and they're not necessarily going on in-depth Scouting report so they might not have known but once you get the book on them. I don't know maybe he someone you can you can pitch to. I don't know if that's the case but the giants do want to figure this out before they just throw them in there like ear. Magsino you are the starting catcher forever. Just you know figure out how to hit while you're up there and I'm pretty sure they don't WanNa do that. And I'm sorry if I poked at an open wound with the the Mike Zito comparison. But that's sort of what people are warning about Joey. Bart. I'm curious. So there's there's that situation and then there is this outfield logjam probably too strong. But how do you see the the outfield for this team? Sorting itself out in two thousand twenty. Because when you and I have talked off line in our super secret communications where I ask you to that. The rest depth charts. You've indicated there might be some moving around out there. Tell us about the moving around out there. Grant it's GonNa be it's GonNa be of very very. They're going to be open to a lot of different permutations I think that Alex dickerson hunter pence or sort of mirror images of each other where you have concerns about them. Getting four hundred plate appearances. You have concerns about them. Getting two hundred plate appearances. But you sort of hope you're GONNA get three hundred from both of them and you're going to maximize those plate appearances to to maximize their strengths. And so I I see them as two components of like one piece dickerson pants. You know might not be a strict platoon of just those two guys. But in another more cosmic sense yeah. Shirts basically strict platoon Yastrzemski. They're going to use is like a roving utility full-time starter. So he might be in Centerfield. Sometimes he's going to be in right field. Allot the opponent left when they need to. You know he's probably going to be in the lineup unless he really start to struggle in this season against left. Handed pitching overall. I think they're they believe that he can help. Whether it's on the basis whether it is in the field that he's generally an overall solid player in so many aspects that he's going to be out there almost every day and that leaves that sort of floating you know whoever's going to be the third outfielder because you're not gonNA have dickerson and pence start at the same time. So is it going to be Billy Hamilton? At Center it could be released. If taken a shine to him in spring training. It might be someone like Austin slater where he's really doesn't have much to prove in triple eight east consistently raked in. Triple A. is that approach. Ever GonNA play enough for him to be a starting corner outfield in in the majors. Probably not but you might see a lot of them because it did for until like September. Last year he looked good he had like a. Ogsm nine hundred but he looked good until he just completely fell into a canyon in September. So you're going to have those guys. Jalen Davis might be up. Stephen Duggar he's kind of like the projected starter in center. You just don't know what you're GONNA get for him. Even before he was hurt last year he was one of the all-time worst offensive outfielders in giants history. Which is like not the greatest bullet point on your Lincoln. So they've got options. They're going to take a look at Elliot Romo's he's he's on the shelf with an oblique tweak but he might be someone who if he's just totally raking and and moving up levels you might see him in July instead of September? You might see them take a chance on on him sooner rather than later depending on on all this stuff so it's very very pliable. Just they've got so many different ways to plug it in. You can just basically count on trump's keep getting a lot of playing time and Pinson dickerson as much as their bodies. Well now see it you said that Dickerson in Pennsylvania Mirror images of each other and my my brain thought will hundred Penza very distinctive looking human being so that seems crazy and I know what you mean but I have a brain that works in a funny way and you look Alex Dickerson early. This is less different than I expected it to be. He's got he's got a little goof- goofed. Grace Goof and I mean a positive way. He's Oh yeah we're on this back east slightly awkward and all the right ways and yet there's a lot there's a lot of penske similarities where last year it was like. Hey this is like dollar store pence. We got them so now. They've got both completed. The set okay granted. I have two more questions for you before we pursue to predict a record for this team. So I'm I'm previewing. That question which I know you knew was coming by. Just WanNa give you time to think about it while you're answering other stuff. The first of which is that. This team did something. A Little Ole nifty while we can decide if we think it's nifty earlier this off season when they they did some trades with they did a trade with the angels and they acquired as part of that trade the angels of Schroeder from US Joe Wilson. And I'm curious if you think that this is GonNa be if these sort of trades are going to be part of their strategy to continue to supplement young talent around the guys that they already have in their farm system. Should we expect more business? Thinks it just makes so much sense. The giants are they. Don't have a two hundred million dollar payroll right now. Because they can't afford it they they have a payroll below that because they just aren't GonNa Start Slapping veterans on this team. And pretend like it's normal so when you have that sort of surplus why not sort of by a prospect. It's it's such a novel idea. Few teams actually do it and I will say that after. I believe. It's after the twenty twenty one season have in front of me but there's one year where it just opens up and all that's on the payroll. Is Evan Longoria? Yeah and it's like. Oh you know. That's it'll be once the race. Subsidies factored in like fifteen million is what they're gonNA. Oh Evan Longoria and they're gonNA have US effectively one hundred eighty five million dollars to spend and I mean that's a little simplistic but they will have all this excess cash in. It's not like you can just go to Costco in lump all the best players into a car like that's just not possible even if they did. WanNa come they might not be available? It's just so hard to spend the all in one all season on everyone. That's GonNa make the team the franchise better for the years to come in exactly the blueprint. You've detailed they're gonNA spend on one free agent to free agent some really good free agents. But they'll still have someone that surplus in even if the minor leaguers start coming up at the pace that's expected. I would anticipate them. Maybe using some of that excess cash to pay. Give us your will Wilson. We'll take reads cards Coz Art okay sure and we'll just release him right afterward I mean that's that's gotta be the plan if you have all that excess cash in an ownership group that seems to believe in your vision. Yeah in twenty twenty one smarter. Become a free agent Kevin Gals Manner Smiley Pence Tony Watson and then the year after that belts Crawford and Tyler Anderson. Come off the books. Oh Tyler Anderson the summer try anything at all and then they have club options on quite oh. Posey and warmer floor as in that year which we imagine will not be exercised. I was GONNA say that. Wilson's like the free sample. But that's not true because they had to take covert get him so. This is not a free sample at all. He's very expensive sample. This is going off. You're costco analogy so goes the time share owned. We'll Wilson's like the Nice vacation. Yeah yes that part's true. So with that sort of look ahead to their free agent situation in mind. I'm curious how you think of this team positions in its own division because obviously they continue to have to deal with the dodgers they. Have you know a sort of resurgent? D-backs team they have a Padres Team. That is willing to spend money in a really deep farm the giants they WANNA bunch of world series in the last decade. But some of those maybe a little bit lucky so. I'm curious how they sort of see themselves progressing in division that has one heavyweight is probably primed to have a couple more when it's all said and done although they continue to get to play against the rocky so they have that going for them. Do they do except they still have to? Of course veiled which is entirely brutal. Yeah I really honestly believe their template is to be the dodgers dodgers north to spend like the dodgers to develop like the dodgers to be the dodgers that is their goal and it might not be quite they might not people to pull it off to that. Extreme they might. So if they want to re-sign their version of Clayton kershaw Kenley Jansen and Justin Turner. They might say okay. We'll just we can't afford all three. So we will sign Clayton Kershaw in Justin Turner or Kenley Jansen. And just you know. They'll they'll have to mix and match when it comes to those huge huge huge contracts to keep the familiar place around otherwise. I think that's the template day they're going to want to be in the middle of every free discussion. They're going to want to have such an incredibly viable pipeline. That they're not going to need. Every last free agent that comes down they would like to be in the discussion for Garrett Cole also being like the dodgers and and not overbidding or or playing their hand to to get him. I think that's the template and they have the resources they have the money. They've got this huge real estate development. That going up around the Ballpark. That should be an infusion of cash. The BALLPARK's paid off. They want to be the dodgers in the commitment of the ownership. Society's vision was. I really believe that they said okay. Just burn it down the way you see fit build it back up and then we can start spending in being like those jerks down south. When do you think will be the first year they actually have a better record than the dodgers? 'cause it has not happened in seven years even though they were winning world series. Do you think that they have? I mean if you had to bat would you bet they will finish ahead of the dodgers more than once in the next decade. Yeah I would say so. I would say you get enough lead time. They're they're GONNA start trading body posed with them. I you know once you start to get the dodgers. Maybe there's going to be one of these years for the not spitting out only stupid prospects fully formed in. You know maybe that happens. One of the. Isn't that part of the dodgers? That's part of being the dodgers's spitting out stupid prospects fully-funded but the giants are supposed to do this in this scenarios. I'm the voice of optimism. Here I could see them once. They're fully a fully functional death star. Yes they're going to have prospects to compete with the dodgers. They're going to have the financial resources to compete. For the dodgers. I would rather be the giants in the giants position than the padres in that might see. I know there's a padres fan right now. He's just punching his computer or phone and I don't mean that like a rude way I just see the padres are. They built up this incredible depth in their organization. But at some point they're not gonna be able to spend quite as much as their rivals. It's the hospital Machado that they've really sort of tried to prepare for this moment but I don't know how many of those are going to have left especially if they perform like Air Costner's performed like there might be some reticence from ownership group whereas I see the giants once they get going if they get going being just a tiny bit more sustainable. And maybe maybe. I'm just being a little bit too optimistic about their financial resources. Once they get going but I don't I don't think so I don't know Babe. Ruth has the all time record for highest in the live ball. Era Really playing back. And he would you know squid. I too many records. That guy had too many records. He's getting records that are not in his category. He's a time traveler hoax all right. I think we're ready predictions. He's a hoax. I I'm only big. I don't I don't believe that I don't think that's on the up and up. Yeah I've case before. I think it was a hoax that got out of hand and and then people over the years forgot that they knew that it was a hoax. And now it's it's a legend that we think is true. Yes but that's a that's a different episode on one. I'd be interested in recording what you have to wait 'til bengals vacation again. So hey grant. How many games are the giants winning? I'm GONNA go forty. They're going to look forty. Forty forty and forty eight because of all the Games cancelled because of quarantines and stuff. Oh Jeez Yeah No. I'm just I'm feverish right now. Then I'm not. It's not baseball fever. It's like a literal fever. So how many times have you touch base since we've possible? Stop I would like to say I have had the exact opposite experience of it. Sounds like both of you and also the whole world where I was told. You need to stop touching your face by the. Cdc and I went. Well I'll never do it. I touched my face constantly. All the time never stop. I love to touch my face and I just stopped and it's been wonderful. I have never felt stronger. More empowered. I have an issue on my nose and I just don't scratch it and it goes away and I feel like I have cracked the code. This is the first thing in my life that I felt good at damn. Wow Yeah I'd do flights in the whole time it's like don't touch your face. Don't touch your face on my foot in my mouth like I I just. I'm not good at it at all. I Yeah I mean like my purchase has been to wash my hands constantly because I know I'm GonNa fail at the not touching my face thing so probably gonNA lose all the skin on my hands and then it's like. Is that helpful? This is a great thing to joke about. We're going to look back in like A. We can be like. That was a mistake. So everyone joking. We're we're raising awareness. Though because I feel like like my my pride maybe on the line here. Where does the face start because I have? I do still put my hand on my neck. Kinda under the sort of the base of my Chin. So there's no contact with the ridge of the Chen but like I'm still leaning on my neck so it's in the area but I'm not touching my fate. That's okay right like you. Just have to keep it away from the fluid zones work is free like just stay away from those orifices black or horrify black bear orifices orifices or Porpoises Anyway Grand. But my prediction is going to be would I'm trying to do math. Seventy Ninety two. So I think they'll win. Seventy two so seventy four in eighty eight. That is my prediction. Will people can follow you. I'm sure that everyone who listens to this podcast In case you don't he's on twitter at Grant. Brisby you can find his writing at the athletic grant. Thanks for hanging out. Stop touching your face Taman Betterman. Thank you all right. That'll do it for today and that'll do it for this week. Thank you for listening. You can support effectively wild on PATRIAE GOING. 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Starting 9 Episode #108 - HR Derby, Dodgers Magic & More

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Starting 9 Episode #108 - HR Derby, Dodgers Magic & More

"Welcome back to starting nine episode one morrow eight dallas hundred eight stitches on the baseball this you know this is a very important episode that we're all just couldn't wait to get going on i am very prepared dallas's ready to go yeah energy is high it's it's the morning of the fourth of july in a i'm in my hair is fucked i i'm usually a you look like a you look like v italian johnny bravo right now if johnny bravo adam italian cartoon yeah you would you would be it yeah yeah i was a yeah that is still in bed in a in a reclined position of phil i'm feeling it i'm feeling appeal in the wake of the season right now grovel yeah there's no denying it i mean is it been playing pretty well recently in baseball they're not they're not coming off a dub but they didn't playoff baseball yeah just take a little while channel walden made it happen when i woke up late night forty dollars bonus baseball yeah fucker doing with replay what are we to i don't even i don't know if i have the energy right now now you start off good that's kind of like a stick the key in that spot is a little bit in the fills out like that now's a good start sounding good start what do we do know seriously yeah i i mean the foot goes down guys it's matt chapman what one of the top five athletes in the game of baseball yeah i'll stand by that the the i just i i can't know and i and i don't wanna i don't wanna go into i don't wanna bitch because we're not building the the shit happens to that end i've told other teams just shut the fuck up a quote whining and so i'm gonna shut the fuck up right after i quit whining but i need i i need something done we've got we've gotta do better we've gotta be better how you'd better but yeah that hurts my initial thought in this is what sorts of those like fuck maybe should have in head first so we could get the hand in 'cause i've seen him do that and then i was instantly like you know 'cause i would hate for him did you dropped on and then that just that would really that would really ruins shit that would really really ruined some shit that says says says her on the topic of the a's 'em as having this discussion on twitter in a civil manner which is very rare because i know a lot of people can have civil discussions on twitter dot com i'm gonna deferred j hey since not i nor dallas could have a an objective opinion about this who is more all star worthy rafael devers or matt chapman ooh ooh i think it's rafael devers and that's objectively like i think if if what we were saying what we've been saying all along is true and that offensive numbers kerry way more weight in terms of selecting and all start again this is not an mvp award like if if if we're talking me mvp of the league in these were the only two players that we could choose from than it's a different discussion i think i'm still going devers but for for an all star selection i i think alex bregman deserves the start and i think that rafael devers is statistically the second best third baseman in the american league oh i'm talking the other guy i well this is not this is not a hot take nor is it definitive so perhaps you'll be disappointed but i i don't i think you can make a compelling case for either guy i don't think one is been decided we'd better than any other if you asked me who i would take i would take match up put that he's wrong when you're question that you put on a cheetah have knocked out of euro ballpark you up right now you're just throw expected that it from j i really did i hear you i really wanna know what you wanted which was hey how do analysis i but there's no one there is no one now sits there that that he got he's yelling jane now sizing basically the offensive of numbers are very similar there yeah evers has a high today yeah devers has a higher on base percentage and a chapman leads him by not as much but a about twenty points in slugging percentage both forms of wins above replacement favor chapman one of them by about a over a win one of by about point four wins which is enough to be negligible but both favor him chapman's got more home runs and if it's close i don't don't think it's unreasonable to use like which of these guys who's actually been a star or close to a star previously or higher levels of is like how much debt debrosse has chapman in slugging percentage no by a point yes ever slugging percentage is live for me for artillery slid i mean they're they're excited waited runs created plus he's got the scale zipper i mean he's got twenty five points of on base of opiates on twentyfive point yeah through on base percentage chapman's hitting to sixty five devos's hitting three twenty eight i mean it's it's very very very close the scale tipper would be defense like if you heard about what about weight is what about waited runs created they hide okay one of them is probably the best defender third base yeah one of them is i agree that conference work in progress yes like that that counts for something when you're like if you go over over near the best pitcher fucking position in the major leagues defensively you know there's something more not talking a little bit heavier snow all in all i know that but any all star game like i said billion times no player has ever been so good defensively besides like maybe andrew jones where it's like all star it's always looking at the offense of numbers almost you know i gotta believe omar's pro admitted also so yeah maybe yeah he's known what he's been doing we gotta go back like two decades like i believe ozzie smith probably got an all star not as well and we have to go back three decades a show will do you want a bowl since were going back do you wanna go back in time and ask somebody else's questions no i think look i think it's i think you like i said it's very very very very close and i think to his right and you would have to go the defense as a scale temper in this discussion i i look i can't speak for jay and i don't think we should i think we should just except i think my answer was very plain and clear very clear i'm not arguing very evening if you look at advanced metrics there is a slight fake advantage so matt chapman primarily based on his defense and he has an established a higher previously establish level of play entering the season which i think is a reasonable tie breaker quote unquote predicting an all star at all beautifully said and there's a word in there that that i couldn't agree with you more in terms of why we think matt chapman it's it's be advanced metrics right and that's what we pay attention to here on this podcast were in advance metric friendly podcast so it would be are kkob us just settle on the slash line think that's gonna tell us the whole story that's why we have jay here jared and i'm so glad you brought that up early on do you have any more of these fun questions like i like these questions that's just wrong well here's why it's definitely not wrong you know what the right answer j hey jay you what the right answer is what they're both all stars i could hear that argument i mean they're better than some of the players they're currently on the team is much more debatable in in in like a right for argument mid rostered indiana was i really do we talk sort of talked about this but i don't think they missed a bunch and you know a no i think i did i think you could debate like david doll making it and stuff like that but i'm not i have the energy to debate you know who's in the twenty seven nine and now yeah and now that it's all said and done and he's on the squad connection i just take a minute to say how laughable it was that zander bogart's was nowhere even near a list i i just i mean we've hammered that but that's a tough one i i know but like you understand hell larry's it would have been if he just like no not even zero acknowledgement like jared jared shed would've fought you exploded i mean like i would have been boarding the plane feeling like hours on a mission to get the cleveland and do something about it i stopped like getting worked up about actual snubs win i think it was whenever whatever all star game was in a phoenix at chase field any home well maybe twenty twelve yeah i i love it i was researching the whatever was those researching it and i remember there i think there were something like twenty four or twenty five replacement players name like i was just constantly like everyday i was there as just rebuilding every graphic because like ninety percent of the roster cycled in and out yeah like it's all of these people almost all of them are going to be named allstars yeah tommy listen i mean i know he was already replaced for but like you named and now he's out eight ten weeks yeah hunter pence hotter paying a guy yeah same shit mhm not good not good at all aaron boone called the called it a joke because of gleyber oh yeah so the joke and say that has suddenly it's a very tough it's tough to throw strikes in dallas you'd think that would be a jab at you but it's not no it's not a we fall into that category right but that that is that is nowhere aimed at me snow fivefold yeah a i keep wanting to say i don't know why i keep thinking today sunday again on friday night no this was on monday night yes you're right no no no no issues there yeah to say yeah it's tuesday night five straight walks the d backs issued a in a game that's a you enter the ninth inning with a with a weed against the dodgers not many teams that have been presented with that opportunity this season 'em as that dinner last night we were talking about a a buddy of mine planned his bachelor party around the same time as the lcs and a he's like so you're coming right now is like no i'm not making as it's like there's chance that the red sox could be in it and if they're not i still have to be watching the al cs like i either might be traveling but i'm gonna have to be watching it is it you don't seriously think that the red sox are are gonna be you this year do you and now it's like well well i mean yeah i mean there's there's there's always there's always a chance but a and then he goes detailing how it's a foregone conclusion that he thinks at the yankees are gonna win the world series now is like to know many people i think are focused on me american league and i agree that the competition any american league is better we don't have pitchers who hit here a little bit different the teams might be a little bit longer lineup wise i think it could be the dodgers year i think this this third time could be the charm dallas i don't know i'm kind of getting that feeling it we knew before these two games against the diamondbacks but the daughters were very good very talented team perhaps of the three if including two world series years does it feel like to you that this dodgers team is better than those two teams 'cause i feel like it is i really feel like it is well i feel like you're getting production from a lot of guys in that helps bellenger what's on the fucking pinch were some of the world series games yeah well a an end i think if that doesn't and happened in bellenger plays i dunno is do you think there's such a big difference where you were having this were were not having this conversation because they've already won the world series no no no i'm not saying the dodgers win the world series of bell in their place every game i'm just saying that he is such eight different player this year versus last year that bellenger there's no way his ass sees any pine in that world series a if that this it's just you just don't do that you are without evidence that lets him coming off a down year that was a down year coming off a rookie of the year campaign right yeah that was 'em today option him last year a no it was either if they didn't option him then i o is dave roberts like pulled him out of the game as punishment i think it was a in san francisco run the ball out right yeah he hit a ball in triples alley in san francisco and only got a double out of it dave roberts pulled him out of the game is like that is triples alley sohn triples out there we need we need all three of those bad i think that's i mean i think if you go back and watch that video it's i don't even think he was dogging it really but now is just that was back when the dodgers start their season like i dunno seven games under five hundred and dave roberts had his press conference and he starts talking about 'em how at the end of the year we're gonna be in first place and at the end of the year they were in first place six straight division titles they're going for seven this year i believe 'em so how how does it feel for both of you like gut feeling is this the best dodgers team out of the last three years do you know what i think it is i think walker bueller has lots of do that i'm mark yeah that's what i was gonna go first i think that rotation is the biggest different and like renew being started we all know they've had outstanding rotations in the past like statistically the dodgers have i don't have it in front of me but they've ranked in the top five from rotation like most of this six straight division title or a division title run but like it was all to me it always felt like with the exception of the years grank he was there it always felt like kershaw end like not overperforming other guys guys they were able to maximize you didn't necessarily feel like delicious about starting in the postseason series aaron harangue yeah richhill rang a tang or like guys like that and i do think walker bueller is the differentiating factor i mean obviously and let's be real credit to let's be real my ada has quietly yeah made fuck what like fifteen sixteen seventeen starts i'm sure somewhere in there yeah end i mean his throwing the ball fairly well to not be on anybody's radar were not even talking about my i mean we haven't even mentioned the name a hundred and review the fucking guy as been one of the best if not the best pitcher in baseball this year he's been dominating a when you have three aces deep and then the guys after that are cancer my ada and richhill cooter who's fucking with that team i mean we we had plenty of discussions in the off season going into twenty nineteen about a clayton kershaw versus walker bueller in is walker bueller now the ace of the dodgers in clayton kershaw is is have we seen his best season i think we've answered some of those questions i think we have seen clayton kershaw is best season that which is not knock on him he's still very good pitcher is just what his best season was was a historically great season but as it pertains to be walker bueller versus clayton kershaw debate yes i think the walker bueller is now the ace of the staff but clayton kershaw still is ace like so now you have two aces plus what review is doing which is also ace like can you name another team that has three ace pitchers in their rotation you can't 'em unless you wanna go sherzer corban 'em strasburg who dominated the marlins but like dozer i feel like that's more ace by name vs ace by performance corban having a good year sherzer scherzer and then you know strasburg it's like can you depend on that guy come october yeah well and the thing with the the thing with the bueller kershaw is kershaw is v leader of that staff right regardless of stuff he's the leader of that stuff he's the leader he's the guy that kind of set the foundation for everybody else and i'm not saying that everybody else falls in line 'cause that's kind of like clinton's a dictator of so that's that's not what that is it all he's just the guy who's been the model of consistency for the guys who were looking detroit become become an ace that is what you're looking at every single day walker will even mentioned that that you know there's a guy in that clubhouse you could watch you couldn't tell where he's gonna be at just by looking at the clock that guy's name is clayton kershaw yeah that's how you go about your business and this stuff wise we also and we if you go back and listen to the walker bueller interview we did she there there's some insight there as you know he's talking about how he's got a ton of respect for the guys that have come before him in a ton of respect for the older guys on the team at the same time he here the fuck around this time he's here to be an alpha dog and come like with that comes maybe at some point in time marking you're territory tori in a fashion that other people might get offended by it but you say you know what this is how i roll this is what i do this is who i am and with the help of eight cy young a perennial cy young candidate and clayton kershaw walker bueller can and will become that each level pitcher yeah i i think he's already there i mean just statistically stuff wise attitude wise a presence wise i think he's already there it's it's just a matter of the league catching up and recognizing that and i'm sure that a lot of guys in the league already do kind of give him that respect i think i think they're plenty of guys in the league right now that when they look at the probable pitchers upcoming dodgers series and they see walker buehler's name they don't feel good about that there's no one that's like you know he's a he's not a you know he'd this young guy we could maybe take advantage of like that's i don't think they're many guys are comfortable seeing his name pop up a on the probables no you don't get warm and fuzzy with a hunter mile an hour heater and the devastating fucking off speed offering no yeah now a hubs hubs just texted me happy fourth an i feel like with an exclamation point in that's making me paranoid like maybe something bad happened like i feel like you don't just wish me if you're hubs happy fourth 'em i dunno i don't i don't office i don't i don't see any i don't see any like bad news with the red sox have no idea maybe just genuine i mean hubs is a good mind state you know what i mean i don't think he is i think he is all is oh is it i think it's because his 'em his thing is that he doesn't pay attention to be a standings until the fourth of july so maybe it's maybe it's a little it's probably that's probably yeah i know he's looking at the standings telling you you know what today is jared yeah yeah that's what what what do the stent they don't look good the last time i worry is that in that wildcard hunt crumbs a their their own hey go and i dropped one a quick note on that dodgers a thing before we move on sure will actually so credit to be elias sports bureau i'm not gonna take their information without credit of course dodgers streak of five straight home wins view of the walk off is tied to the second longest such streak of all time been crazy it's not only been good but it's been dramatic these other teams to do that the two thousand four athletics congratulated dallas who is not on the nineteen eighty six astros and the nineteen eighty six padres the two thousand royals are the only team to do it six straight times ooh oh no a challenger was obviously they they walked it off here the walk two nights ago they walked it off cody fucking ballenger lab yeah i that tied his twenty home run tied duke snider and gil hodges maybe you've heard of him from nineteen fifty five in nineteen fifty one for most homer by dodgers player before the allstar break while not not yet ice without a little bit of a history in the end the three walkoffs the three walk off homers back to back to back right that is to is it three three bailey verdoux go in fucking what will smith i think in yeah yeah a is aaron nola backers are no back i feel like i feel like he's he's it's hard to say because of the competition that he's done this against a but no had made fifteen starts at as e r i was hovering about five his last time out in atlanta a june fifteen four and a third five earned runs that brought us all right up to four eight nine he's made three starts since then including a including what was it shootout again tuesday tuesday night eight innings four hits zero runs three walks whatever eight strikeouts over his last three starts an oath three nine yard ray a he's only given up one earned run in his last twenty three innings opponent setting him at a one thirty eight clip is aaron nola back well it's definitely a nice run when you look back at the three starts prior to that which would leave a lot to be desired in would probably we find you asking what the fuck is wrong with aaron nola because before those three starts you just mentioned the three before not very sexual at all sixteen in the third seven point seven been one your ray some damage so long balls fourteen earned runs in sixteen the third innings a just wasn't going well at all yeah i wasn't had a good along made though no yeah absolutely had a great month of may bombing i think it's possible for him to both be back end fur last season to be the best season we see from aaron nola right i don't i don't know to be true yeah they could be true i just don't think that last year the best season that will see from aaron noah hospital yeah i mean he is twenty six he just turned twenty six there's still room i mean at max scherzer is still putting up the best years of his career now a but that's obviously the bar max scherzer is the bar but for a guy like nola i think i don't think when we talked about kershaw have we seen his best season yet i think we have noah i do not think we have it and it ain't gonna be here that's a pretty damn good season last year to to a two clips yeah well you know i mean like it's it's an end guys could have their career very early on and never get back to that because i mean realistically anybody rock in a sub three these days is going to be i think probably gonna be finding themselves in a cy young conversation yeah that's probably true could you name off the top of your head could you name one guy who had his best season by his age twenty six season and then just never clips that dot like a deal noma hideo nomo that's a good one dot com lots of great answer thank you yeah that's a good that's a good answer would you say doc gooden oh fuck all drugs also also might have been that a mark pryor kerry wood yup yup also might have been at work load the dock underway to when he when he debuted at age fourteen as one final thing on this nola stuff the biggest problem ain't no not pitching like he did last last year has been a problem but like this is bay to man rotation aaron nola anzac half when are they only good things about what's happened to the phillies rotation this year and honestly like if they're going to be a legitimate contender they're going to need substantially better performance from like three four five slots like i know dallas loves the hold up jake area that as some sort of like a point of pride jake area is only a success story in comparison to you darvish hey were were three and five one five step if i remember correctly i would never try to run jake area out in front of everybody else in the world i was always only comparing him yeah you don't that's really all i would ever doing guys if we are that bad as a problematic another problematic contract on the cubs if he were still there we don't talk enough about how terrible contract signing that was you darvish is areas five and he's given up the most home runs in a letter but he really wants to pitch well he want he wants people like a crazy it's crazy how far is falling given that like he he was like the strikeout heavy duty for the wave fully hey baseball like any white to the national league in his credit he was so good with the rangers at one point yeah like yeah you were targeted yeah there were like moments where he would throw like he he throws froze fucking slider and you're just thinking what or i would wanna i paid watch him just throw that eighty nine times a day i watched it it was very entertaining is also you just don't swing at it like that that see approach with darvish is you don't swing it anything that breaks wait fear fastball and crush it that that's what guys do against them than sitting behind home plate at wrigley for you darvish start was not just because of his regular just sitting in in adam vantage point that i could see the brake on his slider was one of the coolest things i've ever done at a professional baseball game in my life like that that's insane 'cause i tweeted out like i don't know how anyone hits this but it's because no one does hit it they just wait for the fastball when they hit that it's i dunno it's it's it's sad really is 'em did you happen to see these major league debut of dylan cease i did not happen to see that i i was i was working in major league baseball you myself that's cool a so i talked about the triple digit fastball i saw a lot of punch outs lotta swings and misses on speech which was interesting 'em he went five innings in his big league debut against the tigers struck out six gave up a homer three earned runs the locks and we talked about this if he can't control he's gonna have success at the big league level he ended up walking for guys a that's we gotta work on that we gotta work on that shutdown a but do we need we need people when you have a little paolo i think we have all our she's yeah i believe three of them were within the first inning or inning and a third so jitters yeah sure i did watch i didn't watch the start i just i'm i i happen to look at the box score after the first inning or inning and a third and i remember you already had three walks oh man i am telling you not feeling anything like the first inning you're out there that's real you don't you don't feel fucking thing you have no idea what's going on i mean i'm sure that you felt that way for different reasons dallas it happens you a preview the thing about speed you're they're not used to seeing that they had no idea what that looks like they have no clue how much more hair is there on that thing is that things still breaking jesus christ so it's just the arab known for them unfamiliarity yeah that was it's still but i mean you could tell you can tell he's he's alive arm i think a lot of success of the big league level a buyout of walks the walks gotta go the other walks great a were there any other games they have you gentlemen saw yesterday that you'd like to talk about dallas by doesn't wanna talk about these days i think weaken why why does that mean in extra innings that's exciting it was it was exciting i was excited for extra innings and you know 'cause the home home club yeah you know walking off in the nine you're gonna win the ballgame you that's gonna be exciting it's gonna be a walk off people are gonna be happy happy about it yeah i mean i've got i've got some rapid fire takes for you not love the his observations hopper anything sherry demand go amazon returning from an end firing six innings of one run ball no walks and six strikeouts again i mean it's the mets but that that still like a thing i think that's important 'em i mean the cubs the cubs implosion yesterday ooh addison russell yes seems to have created at least something of a not panic in chicago but theo's coming out with hot comments about how things better changer or they'll change and you know that sort of stuff like i know kimbrel stat line is pretty fucking brutal so far with the cubs i know that was not all his fault last night but sixteen eight eight your is is obviously not what they're paying you don't want your age to be higher than be a yearly salary right montana currently not yeah no 'em i mean so i think that's i mean the cubs there now three games above five hundred there is a there is a point at the season where it felt like they may established like a twins level eat on that division and that's i mean that was gone for at least now 'em what else what else 'em from me mike trout hit two home runs that was pretty awesome yeah my truck pretty good i think he's so good at baseball yeah that's you know using it out on this pod 'em i mean tribe one you'll see that mhm i think i'm now out of takes i think a i think we should also acknowledge how well thee angels handled himself after thee tyler skaggs passing that was i i wrote about it in i side of the example of a the first game that the marlins played after jose fernandez died and i remember reaching out to christian yelich such an being like i don't know how you guys just did that like i i physically would not have been able to go out there and play baseball game after eight teammates or a close friend of mine just died tragically 'em any angels kinda just went out there beat a good a better than you rangers team quite decisively a you had the coal calhoun homer 'em and then they after the game go like talk to the media i mean it was a most i i can't speak for anyone else but i would have not been able to do what they did 'em in 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look like again this is all this is all based on purely what you've seen but this is like this this should have nothing to do with like age like ten year in the league it's who can hit the most baseball's the further this has to do the fact that he's got the least amount of fucking homers in the in the derby i think it was fake outrage if they made vlad the number two seed i'm alright say he should not be an eight seed canoe at least agree with laddy yes call on the board no mac and gaydos lean not jay who who who are you pointing him over in one car you're gonna make carlos santana the eight seed in his home park so that we can elevate vlad junior the fact that he's in the derby is viewed as a stretch output jock peterson eight seed he was the runner up in twentyfifty yeah what so what if you were vegas vegas are you handicapping this have vladimir guerrero junior as the the ultimate underdog the longer you wait what it's funny you bring that up because i actually have the caesar's odds right in front of me let freedom dallas did you see them no was gonna say a oh no no never mind i'm glad junior is not underdog but he's also not the favorite i that makes sense yeah the two the two lowest a odds according the caesar's at twelve the one are bregman in a coup and you what that surprising that is very surprising so it goes like this josh bell three to one yeah yell at four to one yup alonzo vlad junior five to one a jock and santana eight to one and then as i said bregman in a wild one third or fourth seed a well i mean vegas is not setting these i think eight is absolutely appropriate seed certainly this is not a hill i'm willing to die on i'm willing to fucking murder myself on this hell yeah no he there's there's no way there's no way you can take any sort of statistical approach vladimir guerrero junior anything other than an eight seed and there's no way that you're going to be able to as far as decision makers look other big leaguers in the guy and make him they want to seed with eight fucking home runs in the game because they're gonna look at you and go okay so so he's gonna he's gonna be water to seed in the big league home run derby based on all the cool videos you've seen of him dropping dick in batting practice in in three eight got it okay so what i'm doing here hitting thirty fucking tanks before the all star break that's not worthy of being a top two threes okay okay all right i i see what you've done here no i don't see what you've done here major league baseball that would be the reaction and that's why it is the way it is now 'cause i'm i'm with you the videos tell you that vlad guerrero junior is got a pretty good fucking shot at winning this thing but i did some homework and i feel like i can't understand why vegas has yell at each end josh bell at the very top of this list you look at the average exit velocity and i looked at the launch angle an eye factored in a they don't have eight twenty foot wall combat there homers out to right field so you got four lefties in the group in based on their average exit velocity in their launch angle and the average feet of balls in play travel christian yelich josh bell clear cut answer i think christian yelich which is number one in average exit velocity correct and josh bell is number two yeah so it's it's a it's a good pick you know you're big you should legitimately be terrified yeah you're gonna be eating us oh i have to wait what sorry i i'm gonna be that guy what is the bet if christian yelich wins the home run derby the big cat has they eat pf t is s what is what we see upside for began this but there wasn't one he'd literally just set it way well before yellow jeevan announced he was in the derby i think i mean there's definitely the whole oh it's gonna ruin your swing type thing people actually believe that i think that i think this bet was a fraction of a motivating factor to it's actually agreeing to do it you think so yes i would love i mean i mean this is the guy that's out of history of oblique injuries like you can't mess around though bleak injuries now you're the you're the reigning mvp you're having a historically another historically great season if i were him i would be selfish and be like dude no like i am i'm literally in the second half of the season on putting an extra fifty million dollars in my pocket on my next contract i'm gonna compete in the home run derby which no one's even gonna remember if i win it unless all emails like maybe saving you know what else is going early start on that fifty mill and log one of those mill right here in an hour at the home run derby it could cause possible if you very well do that christian yelich just a guy in we know this just by talking to him he appreciates be up for tunities that come with being an mvp he appreciates the cool shit you get do he appreciates the cool people you get the meat and all that fun stuff and i think being part of the home run derby is one of those things yeah absolutely and shit like that and he understands and i think he's one of a few guys guys across the game in one of the few that we've spent time with that that i think you can you can feel them getting it you can feel them under like like man i i i know the fans were committed cleveland and they would love to see a great homerun derby i've hit the most fucking fucking home runs in baseball up to this point how i not in the home run derby she gets that for sure i think if if you're leading the majors in homers there's there's gotta be a sense of obligation to compete in the home run derby like that standpoint wanna see the people that have the most homers it's your point about vlad guerrero junior like i'm telling you right now i don't give a shit what that home run total looks like a bird john carlos stanton referring aaron judge i want both those beam is in there that multiply like i was i was most excited for yell at each in vladi like when i saw when i saw that vladi using the home run derby that was that was a very exciting moment for me as a baseball zan of gas out is lagging the gas out no 'cause that's that's what i've got happening now i've got vlad gassing out because i've got vlad not realizing look it like you know after a certain point it doesn't matter how far the only hit so many give me so much extra time 'em i i just wonder if he tries to hit every single ball out immonen rights and instead of just kind of picking his own you know 'cause he's like everyone of these students gonna hit the ball out in any field in any direction doesn't matter but i wonder if wide let's let's it all kind of get to in a little wants to be baby vlad on the big stage and i dunno maybe over extends himself southern i thought about with bregman know being a twelve to one shot and i know him well there's there's value there because he's got a short stroke right yeah short to the baseball you thinking about being able to maybe get more swings off so for a guy who doesn't have to hit the ball five hundred feet he's maybe a guy who could take advantage of hitting more three hundred and thirty five three hundred and fifty foot fucking three ninety four hundred foot shots maybe he could take advantage of that so maybe he just gets maurienne i dunno it could be i i just i feel like there's gonna be so much talk about vlad so much talk about yeli that josh bell is just gonna sneak in and when the thing well that's my pick so you're getting after we were gonna get that eventually yeah 'em that's why i've got winning this is josh bell yeah a that's also who i have hitting the far this ball okay john bell folks folks is only living human being did two balls directly into the allegheny river mm directly into the like they built that ballpark by the river not thinking baseball's were just gonna be flying into the river they built a ballpark out in san francisco this jen out here they built that for the sole purpose of one berry lamar bonds striking baseball's into v ocean mhm well josh fucking bell has turned allegheny into souvenir city yeah that's actually those are both good picks those are both good picks a i'm gonna have i'm gonna yeli winning it because the baseball gods have a sense of humor and i will have no idea what the longest all right now here's the question i have to right handers and then i have another question written down after this gillette you know where i was in my mind state so the question i have is a because of the seats in stands are where they are for the righties yeah a and they have concourse but they could potentially hit the ball on to work on her a dude they have a better opportunity of getting their distance judged unbiased lean in accurately as opposed to a josh bell or yellow hitting a fucking missile off the facade of the second deck or something and just not getting you know not getting me correct distance but getting some bullshit average predicted distance is that possible and then the follow up question is unless you high right now thinking about that and i'm like i'll have to kick it ajay are i'd ever been eight time and place in baseball history where that sort of thinking would be more accepted yeah that sort sort of approach to the home run derby is that i mean i feel like i'm good real good spot knock it out like really good rapport process that yeah yeah all right yeah i i actually i i i mean i i went down a rabbit hole i got the average exit velocity is launching goals in average feet per distance on balls in play on every one of these mother fuckers hubs ready i liked the derby and i say that is that a cop absolutely the derby's great yeah the rate at a jury like better format change yeah i think the whole radar does better numbers than any other in the game leagues all star game yeah i really look forward more to the derby a then i did well that's that's a that's a that's a hill i'm willing to die on is the home run derby is far better than any other major sports all star events or though yells competition yeah yeah well it'd be any joe skills competition i like right i i you on board with that but the slam dunk contest the quarterback challenge you're pro bowl but you get the fuck right out of my face with all that also last year's all star game was pretty cool yeah like last year's all star game had some back and forth action also a if you are an all star in major league baseball who's listening to the podcast right now and you haven't yet participated in the game a deleted twitter man god like like can we get are were never gonna get over that are we know is that oh it's gonna be something that happens to these guys like the athletes who were experiencing success in their life i think that's really what you could boil it down to is at any point in time you start to catch a clown wave and you start to fly a little closer to the sun people look into a fucking fryer own wings yeah that's man it just it sucks 'cause you don't want and i know where you're going like you know a hater type happen again that's that that's horrible like the kids having the best night of his life in you're right on that from when he was fucking sixteen yeah i mean come on man yeah civility detroit hope that should happen i think we've been on some good home run derby is like stanton winning at petco park was like that was really impressive at the judge this judge in miami was the one that put the derby on the map i feel judge in miami was that he absolutely stole the show but that one also had a justin bore right eating eating the food in the middle of the home run derby 'em like i remember watching the leaderboard judge judge one but i wanna stay stanton had four of the five hardest hit balls like stamp yet in the longest in the back wall of of yeah marlins park ann arbor winning last year in his home park was one does go yeah the walk out on the field yes dad thrown some some controversy yeah you got four five pitches after the fact and rubber one so you're going with that with jared did you pick a winner i'm gonna i'm gonna go with yellow which seems fair i'm gonna go pete alonzo only so that was my original pick intel intel i wasn't looking at some point in time joy yellow in this thing where was he not which he never wanted him to be right and so that's where some his conversation with my broadcast partner glenn kuyper telling him yeah man i think pete alonzo is the guy if they put joey gallo in that home run derby game over you we can't be friends yeah you're picking somebody else right like i just can't like all of these all of these people so i'm gonna run through the average launch angle on all these guys wide seven degrees yeli eleven point four bregman seventeen point five jock peterson fourteen point four pete alonzo thirteen point seven santana eight point nine josh bell ten point eight ronald a kunia junior thirteen point nine joey gallo sits at a nineteen point one i believe something like that so you think about these old ps of joey gallo and you think about the what the oftens looks like when joey gallo puts the ball in play as jared pointed out on the last podcast away some fucking stat nerd was like debating me for an hour about that because he was like home runs don't count for batting average up a w yeah he's like batting average on balls in play as like their batted balls though like we have the semantics battlefront our whether they're in player not yes like a his his batting average on batted balls which is not balls in play apparently is five hundred seventeen something oh ps because home runs don't count babbitt which is ridiculous because if you hit a home run you're batting average goes up but batting out and play is so when i encountered that first argument for the first time it's i i i think atas wrong i don't know if it was i dunno villas doug glanville are not 'cause he's fucked so goddamn smart m i i don't think it was johnny 'cause i would never talk shit wb m but i i was a i was just like okay fine find you're gonna punish the guy verb for being too good forgetting it too far then fucking go ahead you you you wouldn't be that guy that was that was my stance that might take a look that's fucking stupid yeah talking batted balls here not babbitt step batted balls joey gallo hitting five hunter with a seventeen twelve opie s or wherever the fuck it was i know is north of seventeen hundred yeah but of joey gallo is in the home run derby i am i'm i'm betting everything i own yeah julie yellow yeah i am that's what the fans wanna see is joe but i but i do think his oblique injury is is d exact reason why he will not be participating for sure yeah no animal understandable and quick derby trivia yeah who fuck yeah yeah which is the first reigning mvp to participate in the home run derby since 'em jay our guarantee albert pool halls is correct yes thousand nine were off to a good start last brewers winter or own a i should say who a a gary sheffield no fuck on draw don't think that hard john john how is never invited but he played for the stockton ports in milwaukee brewers minor league affiliate it would rear end sheffield early a job the guy i'm talking about what is the first gave prince fielder is he answered a da moving moving to pete alonzo and the mets who is the only mets winter in derby history darrell strawberry yes nineteen eighty six josh bell has there ever been eight pirates winter no jason bay and so i just gave it away no bonds and kasha participated but not one jason jason bay participate and he i think he had no home runs around yes you did who is he only previous astros winner a deer bill no could be not cribbage your jeff bagwell i'm sorry he's not the winner of the best previous astros finish which was runner up i'm sorry carl asli now a i fired off two thousand four landsberg lynchburg britain debate was the runner up to me guilty oughta 'em from hot hot dry we already touched on jock was the runner up in two thousand fifteen fifteen do you remember who he lost two in twenty fifteen yup where was it great american ballpark cincinnati oh fucking todd frazier right under ronald a kunia a the youngest this is just a fact that i'm going to share there have been eleven previous appearances by braves players not a single one is advance past the first round break lingers maybe that's part of the twelve the one brain embarrass who is the last indians indians player to participate albertville no no so a great invited me grady sizemore in two thousand eight santana look and be the first one to win it and finally i think we already we know at this point the vlad junior is the youngest ever participant fled senior one in two thousand seven the jays have sent fifteen players all time they have zero winters sad very sad looking looking to change that lonzo bell and yellow john yeah all right it's written down it's etched in stone can't wait to win for ever what's the wager laughter name at once we get boots on the ground yeah you guys figure that out but here here's the wager the the to lose well hold on if if you win if josh bell wins you to have to buy me a josh bill all star jersey ooh okay and figure out somehow some some way to get it signed i mean that seems like a lot of effort yeah you're right so fucking loose like if i win one of none of them win what what what do you want from me all right it's seven forty five am i liked me all star jersey idea just not just without you autograph okay all right fine 'cause that's just the level of effort that i think we all know is gonna go kind of ways i never gonna happen and yeah yeah a quick story about level of effort getting shit signed so this is de first time that brian wilson and i are going to be hanging out stateside eight side 'cause we we've met in puerto rico okay in gotten off to a really great start 'em so here we are in spring training in on the suns fan as i as i've as i've noted here hell yeah and i had a steve nash jersey in wilson pulls up to pick me up in this like seventy three giant fucking cadillac i is just a like like somebody grandfather should have been driving the vehicle and a i get into the car and he's like oh six jersey knows like it because it really wasn't security it was like a fucking a bad white orange sleeved cut off type jersey like not a full tank but like i it was just go back and look at the sons bad jerseys and it was about one and a half years ago yes we jersey and i'm like yeah fuck you like steve nash he's a baller he's like oh hey well you know randy win actually spends a lot of time with steve nash 'em nash comes in the clubhouse in spring training all the time probably get that sign for you those like awesome very serious she's like yeah so i took the jersey off right then in there like in the car and just threw it in the back end was like oh shit my bad in me and he's like oh no that's fine it's just grandpa knows like excuse me and i had thrown the jersey in the backseat on a box which turned out to be prime wilson's grandfather in the box he had just like that was his grandmother's car that he just brought the spring training grandpa in the back back of the car but fast forward city i dunno like twenty twelve season where like it's abundantly clear my arm is done working in i'm just trying to figure out life at i pick up this fucking jersey in wilson's room that he's had four or five years that just never made its way into randy wins locker just never made its way into steve nash is possession decide and get it back to me 'cause he's like oh yeah do all the time but that'd be done by like the end of the week yeah fucking six years later i find the jersey in a in a corner in a room with joe so we got a little running joke oh yeah properly that sign for if you need that we need we definitely need a follow up with brian wilson wherever he is in the world's whatever he's doing right now god only knows but i think at some point and we need to go to the wilson compound and have a sit down i've never met him in person like we did like fucking of like oh it's right i did that you've never met him like an end what's crazy i'm telling you right now is it would just be a different experience for you because you work west a different dude who you know he's different different even now i believe that he's a fucking weirdo man yeah now is is i thought you were like no brian wilson is such a wildcard card that's why it's the best but it's i'm telling you do does the best part of us running running together was i i just could blend into the background people looked at him like what the fuck incite show is like oh yes this is nobody cares nobody wants wants to know who i am a beautiful 'cause if you even said words you right now i probably wouldn't be able to hold a conversation with use of the talk of the hit a man brian wilson coming back and throw out the first pitch for the giants in full uti that's what started off my beef with fucking all a a climate tommy or whatever his fucking name is out here oh that little box oh what a moment 'em yes the barstool store has released their summer collection and there's a ton of new stuff in the store get drinking with all the new bar still drink wearing limited edition of evil a stool orca coolers what the fuck is that there's jeep assessories new bathing suits towels and pool floats in a huge collection of limited edition bar still usa tease ooh it's also a lot of starting nine marches well with more coming the the lucas g elite oh shirt is i cannot wait to get my hands on that i think that i told him the send me a one of those shirts in cleveland to are hotel so i could have that goto store dot barstool sports dot com to shop now a we are now in are show some love portion of the program a there there a lot of interesting canada it's this week that i hope get some love 'em dallas would you like to go first my friend i would love to i would love to 'em in this it is scape should be if this individual individuals mentioned i feel like jay he did but i don't fucking care 'em mortis grilled junior did you do we talk about him now having done didn't we have not done him i've not not on this segment i think we've mentioned in passing okay well he's swinging a fairly well had himself a nice go the last thirty days lemon jack's twenty two states no ps north of eleven hunter seventy eight total bases that's good for the second high watermark in all of baseball the chucky blackman a yeah on a swat who otherwise is more about who they're going to trade marcus stroman probably gonna be leaving town the bright lights so i i do think so if it's not gonna be for the new york yankees a fuck man you know i i i don't i honestly i don't know that the minnesota twins are not a club that could be interested in marcus stroman i feel like the minnesota twins are club that needs to pay attention to and i think we talked about this to maybe maybe some bullpen help just because of how things go in the post season i feel like they've got some guys in that rotation that could that could get the job done in come postseason time you're gonna need help in the bullpen so i feel like if it was another team that could be a potential landing spot but i just think that with the with the savvy issues that these yankees were experiencing we know that they're not gonna be afraid to make a move cashman is a fucking gunslinger 'em i i think that might all be but a a done deal i had actually a second individual this time guys i've got a second individual mind who's really right took a couple of br smoothies and in indo being this is my edgy some would say out on a limb some would say really pushing the envelope making this kind of pick for rookie of the year year but fernando tat teasha junior is back he's back after the hammy missed all of may with a blown hammy since the turn since june six which is been twentythree games slash line three sixty four four forty one six seventy also in opiates north of eleven hundred five hundred babbitt folks five hundred five jack's fifteen rb eyes 'em so yeah youngster on top of the numbers i just rattled off has has scored on sack flies turned volume up to second base twice twice since sack flies to second base just played out over in her head and put the fastest guy you know in the world at third base and that still is really fucking hard the conceive yeah and he's done it twice his triple slash line is basically freddy freeman as a dynamic defensive sure as i was just gonna say as eight high caliber middle of the field field defender that you're going to hold around like he has twenty points of oh ps separate those two right now and it's twentyone i'm sorry and it's in favor of that these the dude is he's he is long seeking be short to the baseball when necessary he is rangy got a fucking kid you'll see flaw at the beginning of this year on his annual top prospects was but totti's one glad to hear they are i but yeah i i looks not written of course but wow i think i saw that i think i saw that more the one place i feel like todd tease i feel like it was at least debatable yeah no it was either one to one but there were the vast the majority of publications have a lot of yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well i would say yeah the defense is is clearly like you're start let's say this look just you're starting in organizations who you taken who 'em it would seem as though tat tease is the more dynamic player 'em i'd be tempted to take todd tease because of be a the well rounded ness an also having you know wait concerns at flabby moving forward yeah well that's yeah for me it's jetties 'cause you just kinda like as the career goes you think all right sending over the third base cinema over the first base at the very end of it all d h inevitable at the end of it provide it's where he's at now and then d h i mean you probably get some working over at first base i'm sure at some point in time but yeah i mean not not that options let's not get it twisted not bad options at all no 'em me this week i'm going with two names that a i mean i feel like we've kind of of all of this segment until like let's give some love to to people but maybe you've never heard over maybe guys that 'em are just not popular names in this game yeah i'm going with to popular names because they fucking deserve it you deserve it they just hate they deserve it becomes the first guy i've been highly critical of in this time around he he doesn't deserve he deserves praise this time do you know what his name is dallas i do not be better told me his name is manny machado oh you look you at you manny machado on june twelfth after a their series with the giants had concluded manny machado is hitting to forty with a seven twentyfive oh ps in seventeen games since then he's sitting three seventy eight what the twelve seventy oh ps six doubles ten homers and he's driven in twenty four runs in his seventeen games a yeah so he has a looks like he's he's turned a corner i mean he's literally raised his opie s a hundred points in the seventeen games 'em so he's taken a very bleak slash underwhelming season and it's now at least presentable it's not it's not three hundred million dollars worth but it's it's it you would look at that and be like yeah okay will take that 'em the next guy max scherzer over his last seven starts he has struck out seventy four batters in fifty one innings innings with a one zero six yard re here are his strikeout totals in the month of june fifteen nine ten ten ten fourteen a he has is a he is also i mean he's six record wise but the nationals are six and one in seven games at he started opponents 'em opponents with eighty four eighty four oh ps against him in those seven starts best pitcher in baseball yeah domination 'em all right i got three people came hot today high i've been critical of the brewers rotation or it's viability overall brandon woodruff yeah i would say breakout stood 'em bruiser fourteen and three in his seventeen starts he ranked thirteenth among pitchers in an f war he ranks tense in kato walk percentage you ranked seventh and fit and that kato walk percentage would be second best buy any brewers player in their history among qualified stars of course behind only bench sheets since two thousand four ben sheets under rated nasty forgotten in the dustbin of history ben sheets nasty 'em former teammate of mine so brandon woodruff a i mean maybe he is he answer to the brewers need a top of the line guy because he's pitching like one with like a hundred and twenty strikeouts in a hundred innings 'em shoutouts drafting him pretty season and fancy nice shot out to you alex verdoux go 'em the thing that makes him interesting to me is that he's something of a throwback player in a sense because i he the guy doesn't strike out any doesn't swing and miss very often 'em he has eight ten percent strikeout rate which among all the players at least two hundred and fifty plate appearances this year that is the fifth lowest in baseball which to me is even more impressive given his age and his relative lack of major league baseball experience and he's also fourth among all players in contact rate eight in the zone 'em so in an era of an increasing amount of swing and miss a alex verdoux go is a little bit of a little bit of a throwback there and then juan soto 'em you know the one soto ronald a kunia back and forth last year was fun 'em and i feel like in in a lotta ways attuned you star has sort of zoom past sotos in the national spotlight but like quietly almost he's doing exactly what he did last year just like five percent better 'em he's up there slugging percentage from five seventeen to five fifty one he's got an on base percentage north of four hundred again there have been thirty three players in major league baseball history to accumulate accumulate eight hundred or more plate appearances through their age twenty season which he is currently in right now he's got more to go thirty three players in baseball history only players of that group who have posted they hire oh ps plus then one soto are ty cobb mickey mantle and mel odd you didn't know all three of those people were in the hall of fame her perspective in their age nineteen and twenty seasons eighty ride and mickey mantle both posted eight three seventy seven on base percentage juan soto has eight four oh six on base percentage pretty good pretty decent a i i can't let this segment go without acknowledging knowledge ing body of work by the mumps best reliever any american league his name is liam hendriks forty six and two thirds innings folks eleven point one nine k per nine he has slid in city closer's role as blake training bouncing back from his idol stint in your ray under one fit at two point oh nine a strand rate at ninety two point three percent home run to fly ball rate under to end slopes it's fucking thunder from down under he's experienced a slight uptick in below so liam hendriks you're american league relief pitcher of the month tip of the cap to yeah my friend because it is not been easy what he's been through he's been opener he's been a bridge guy he's now being asked closed baseball games he's a multi inning guy a sofa liam hendriks he's really just kind of taking it all in stride the mother fucker was dear dear fade like now i'm sorry properly not for us actually how's the big leagues on actually it was you wanna close would you like to pitch last real cool so liam good on your block happy i'm happy for you dallas like you know how you get to a go back to bed soon 'em boyle pepper here stephen mats is going to the bullpen i this is kind of like when when you have a guy in the rotation that you move to the bullpen i'm sure that's austin looked at as aid demotion which oftentimes it is i think this could potentially be eight career saver formats well that's how that's what hindsight typically tells us is because it's always a demotion in an effort to hopefully maximize the talent that you clearly have so like you could you could you could try the church it up and spit it however you like coming from a pitcher it's always always a demotion in an effort to maximize what you could probably do really well in short bursts as opposed to trying to edmonton unless it's unless it's a guy that you could just option like there's there's demotions in other ways i think that if you're if you're in the rotation and then they just option you than that say demotion but if you are a starter and then they're like hey i think you can still help us at least on the big league roster known in the end no no no no no if i'm a starter and i get optioned it's not because i'm not good it could be because i haven't been good these two turns her so an effort to keep me extended ended keep me in a starting role they option me down that like they will like that the the move to the bullpen is typically for guys who are i they're trying to have their innings monitored organization has felt like you know what this is going to be the transition for you but very rarely does it organization take a guy out of the rotation and then just stick them in the bullpen thinking all right well that's where you're gonna be now and we don't really have a game plan for you moving forward like that it's it's say it's definitely as as you have noted eight grasp detritus salvage careers in it coming up think about andrew miller think about andrew miller stuff and the shit there's no denying it there was like you were an asshole if you were going to tell me that he was going to start in the big leagues and be successful though in that was the point all right let's send him down turning into the reliever bring him back up and now we roll mhm yeah 'cause now like that there's really i would imagine there's no coming back at least in twenty nineteen like if you get moved to the bullpen you're now changing you're you're workload you're changing your workout routine you're changing how you prepare your body and your mind that's it's very i think it's it it should go from the rotation to the bullpen is a big adjustment but to go from the bullpen back to the rotation tation isn't even bigger adjustment well it's it's just did de adjustment period is how long are you going to be extended how far are you going to be extended per outing so you'll see guys you know think about spring training the first outing for spring training for a starting pitcher is typically forty five pitches somewhere in the two inning three inning range from now you'll go sixty pitches so you're looking for probably four up and downs you know four innings admitted the seventy five and then it's too you know ninety and then from there were rolling and that's kind of what happens so from the bullpen to the rotation you're just being allowed to throw more throw more throw more from the rotation to the bullpen clearly you're workloads being cut the work in between is being cut because you could be working every day yeah one thing to say about matt so from twenty fifteen twenty sixteen steamy through a hundred and sixty eight innings three point one stick dra in a three four four fep probably the reason the mets were so optimistic even though even with his ability inability to stay on the mound from seventeen to the present three hunter one innings for six ninety are eight four nine three fifty and this is you here's one thing i found interesting his strikeout rate is essentially this is identical in twenty sixteen as it was in twenty eighteen and so as the tide of strikeouts has risen stephen matt's has fallen falling in comparison to other people but he's pitching against so in twenty sixteen his strikeout rate ranked twenty fifth in in twenty eighteen that same strikeout rate rate rate ranked forty third a some news here brandon low to the injured list is that something did they already replaced some only all star roster 'cause he was named in all star as a reserve yesterday i do that okay so then another offer somebody so maybe it's rafael foul devos's more deserving oh man yeah i just got this just this this tweet just came across their happy fourth to everyone is specially my pal jared cherub is still waiting for an answer and it's a screen shot of you're text message correspondence with hubs yeah but there's no response yet from jared yeah you surprised by that i'm not no no i'm not a big response guy big tate guy not a big response guy yeah a little more recordings of big league podcast yeah it's not the fucking short bus a loose ardo dallas what do you got on that i want to talk about is a i wanna talk about lack tightness down in aaa little bit of a little bit of a road blocks three at a time now to write a strain now at its worst tightness of its worst 'em this is a guy that could absolutely help the aids in their pursuit of a wildcard spot since they have no chance to win the division a i got bullied triton shoulder birkin i got flaky on this shit those a lot fallen off what the fuck is going on just a trade fred when jackson why the hell is he employed right now i i thought he is allowed seventy five runs in nineteen innings pitched this year that's not bad i mean there's definitely been worse if dallas just bring dallas down out of the booth i why not or when he's doing sidelined just having it's not about vilo it's about locating i saw him blow right by portnoy yeah i mean that's why they're still not for something in the big leagues that's like that's never like you see a low for a that's why it's like pictured on fucking pt the blanket invading never ending never ending quest to find market inefficiencies athletics are next going to mind their own broadcast booth hey hey it is i'll i'll have you know a i m i am the first major league broadcaster to serve as a major league broadcaster end eighty ballboy yeah i remember that point of view it in the same season i wanna i wanna let you know that is really go to the trifecta is technically purchase year contract from nbc i think they'd have to designate somebody yeah no they're not gonna forty i don't think i don't think like i hope they firing the pre and post game host gets me in into the game i don't know if that's how that works like there's gotta be somebody else's had that's gonna have to roll before singing that there's there's things weaken shuffled around you know time will tell yeah yeah feel good feel good to be only a phone call away 'em we have boots on the ground in cleveland the next time you hear from us dallas and i will be in cleveland and he all star game this is my first all star game that i will be oh no this is my first home run derby that will be attending no that's also elias also completely false nine last year to year that last year this reverse last year this'll be my first home run derby since last twenty nineteen yes i'm very excited well i think will be kids were in there on credentials not tickets correct oh what god i love the decision figured out what i think we have crystals well yeah but but i'm sure you're absolutely after the problem yeah i'm pretty sure we have credentials so last fear a last year i sat behind home plate for the home run derby with marlins man which was the first home run derby in major league history where they didn't show behind the plate they have like roaming cameras entire time a i think we did about that no no i i want if we have credentials like i would like to take in the home run derby from like the stance like being behind home plate is cool 'cause he gets like see how far they go and everything but i wanna in the shit yeah where we need to be we need to be doing remember how last year i was trying to run from like right field the left field when when guys well i'm not i'm not gonna ask you if you remember 'cause you don't even remember physically being they're being but but that was suddenly i was trying to do like run from left field to right field detroit because that's where you need to be like i hope they will actually can we look at the brackets do they have is at one lefty verse one righty lefty verse right 'cause it's four and four we have four lefties for right alice verses of bodies lefty rest ready yeah bregman peterson's lefty righty bella kooning is lefty righty anna lonzo santana's lefty righty so much santana but i guess we don't know yeah well yeah and that was something else that kind of threw me a curve ball i spent fucking fifteen minutes going fuck i really wish they would put his splits up here so i could figure out the exit deal from both sides of the plate that didn't happen that didn't happen 'em i couldn't figure that out for you i just i i was not in eighty a i i was not in a in a mental head space to make that effort yeah i can do that very easily semi i'll text you know i'll get any information that you need dallas 'em i forget what i was saying actually now oh yeah homerun derby we've gotta be in the spots where they're dropping dick yeah that's worthy that's where the scrum it's like it's gonna it's gonna turn into a mini mosh pit yeah i'll be ready for that yeah so i'm i i think that's gonna be a great a i think there's gonna be some great shots the balls flying in right i hope brand is prepared for that britain is prepared for anything right she's ready to roll twenty four four seven she she's she's got her hard hat on for this one burr instagram let's roll a dallas you've got a tattoo i i did i started my sleeve who started my sleeve yeah i've been talking i've been in a this is been in the works for probably i'd say probably like four or five months i've been texting back and forth with yard is a designs and shit and then we reconnected again win homeboy are man michael got his tattoo is elephant tattoo wendell laser hit a grand slam that you saw that on the log on the blog check it out 'em but yeah start a d a started this leave a couple of days ago got dia at the humming bird going it'll be a tie died peace sign of got some high biscuits flowers in there but they're all very very important very meaningful to myself and my family yeah that's very nice i a i'm almost done i have one spot kinda like in the back of the elbow there mhm i got i got a pig tattoo yesterday what's the pig for animals see album okay i got i got wish you were here on my wrist oh nice like like the like written written out now in using album cover oh the tober yeah oh six yeah i got wish you were here division bell a pulse see eyeball behind it all and then i have a just part of the podcast or yeah stop trick or no way we're yes for you know we may maybe we get a jet maybe we'll maybe we'll get a tattoo audio device maybe we get attached to cleveland yeah but i've been down for that yeah i'll get a i got i got a rocket throat tat just a fucking a rocket taking off from you're adam's apple yeah there's like a rocket launching from my belly button up to my throat all right i got it if alex bregman wins the home run derby yeah you have to get that fucking logo that i drew that i created oh jeez s you gotta get that tattooed tattooed on your ass cheek i mean i don't know if i do that on a streak but it's not like it's it would have to be because it's like the it's detail i would have to be big jared guy you're out she it gives a fairly sizable fairly sign on mine i got i got small but i have less than an astro i have negative ads like if you if if i had negative that is my ass was a rock wall it would be like an inverted degree fuck so there's there's based on your cheek my friend there's based on her cheek alex you heard it here folks you're just said yes to just confer redmond wins the home run derby jared's getting the fucking bregman rocket t shirt logo tattooed on his desk on how are you not dealt with big cats gonna eat ass and you can't get a tattoo i i'll think about it i'll think about like eight tattoo i would definitely not get that tattoo no come on i'll get something out get something it's bregman related 'cause it's specific he's a twelve to one there's no way this happens jared come that's not no way that's not know what were you out right now white sox dave gene himself knowing you know the thing is no he did that he was going to and then he didn't i mean i i feel like i said that i would take fucking belt lashes forever you run the red sox gave up and they gave up seventeen runs and then i said if the red sox got out of a certain inning then i would dump a gallon of milk on my head i did all those things i backup the things that i say so let's let's i i'm just looking to add to the list my friend of mine who will decide who will the side once once we get boots on the ground in cleveland i feel like i've decided i just need you to decide of i'll figure it out i'll have to do some soul searching and said the fourth of july i'm about to go see my family offer offer a fourth of july barbecue i'll have to a consult ellen who will be devastated if i get a tattoo on my ass so it's gonna be great that's right yeah vaseline that ask jerry lewis about that ask but a a all right all has a great fourth of july

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264: Josh Lewin breaks down the 2020 Red Sox roster

Red Sox Beat

26:22 min | 9 months ago

264: Josh Lewin breaks down the 2020 Red Sox roster

"Well, it has been a long difficult journey, but here we are with episode number, two sixty four of red sox. We have baseball. Yeah! Opening Day is upon us, Josh Lewin is with you right now and I guess we should be excited. Right I mean this is certainly better than nothing. I don't know if that's a great catchphrase, but Red Sox baseball twenty twenty. It's better than nothing. Where's it going to go I? Mean The ten playoff teams last year average ninety eight wins. Say Six. Oh five winning. Winning percentage so thirty six wins is what you got. Get this out of sixty. You can't afford something like five or ten starts. I mean you'd have to play basically better than the eighteen red sox did at that point to go forward just to get in, so let's get out of the chute against the orioles right high feeling about native all these reopening day star five point nine nine. Last year we'll get into that in just a moment. eighteen of pitchers got at least ten games for the socks in the world series season of two thousand eighteen, only half of those are still with the organization I'm working at sixteen red sox hitters got at least sixty at bats and twenty eighteen and again only half of those are still employed by the red sox. You say goodbye to a couple cy, young winners and Al Mvp World Series Mvp Potential Hall of fame closer, the fan favourite Brock Holt is gone. I mean even Water Nunez. For a while, so we'll break down. What is on tap for these Red Sox are twenty twenty shortened season as it may be no guest this time. This is just me talking to you about the lineup, the rotation the bullpen and we'll see if you agree with the assessment and give you some things. You probably didn't know, too. It's always the goal. Hey, there's there's no shortage of action going on at our exclusive. Exclusive Partners Online sports. There are making their way back. They've been there with a UFC NASCAR soccer leading the way they've got the best odds in lines for the upcoming matches this weekend. In fact, ESPN is back, so look for that. They've got more than just sports. They've got hundreds of Live Casino Games and Poker tournaments all the best props in the business, so it's visit. Bet Online DOT AG. Always tell you. Use Your mobile device join to receive your new welcome bonus. Start playing right freaking now, bet online your online sportsbook experts. So I know I'm no expert, but here's what I'm thinking as everything kicks off Friday night. Here's what I think is going to be. Red Sox lineup and we'll break down kind of guy by guy. Just I'm GonNa just talk extemporaneously about each one in left field number sixteen Andrew Benintendi. It was supposed to be the leadoff man last year. It never really took, but here we go again, and he never turned the corner at all last year I mean it every step very much like the entire club. He was grinding, trying to figure it out, but he was missing a lot of pitches. strikeouts last year. Obviously, that must improve third base number eleven game program Rafael, Devers boy where to restart more line drives off bad than anybody else in baseball last year, two hundred and thirty five of them say the Poindexter, with the slide rules the the most extra base hits in a season by red sox player ever last year Rafael Devers had ninety Ted Williams. Never had more than eighty six did that in his famous nineteen thirty nine season when he was just coming on. Nomar Garciaparra Ninety seven at eighty-five Ted Williams get the list in nineteen forty. mookie made the list not in two thousand eighteen, but in two thousand sixteen was seventy eight divers had ninety. Last year and some of the best hands in all of baseball, though as able to respond to pitches, the defense certainly has gotten much better. He really turned the corner after that costly ninth-inning error in Chicago early May last year. He talked to Adrian Beltre on the phone and somehow got his mind, right. Guy had no home runs three runs batted in his first twenty four games last year and ended up where he ended up all right batting third your shortstop number two. Zander Bogart's who actually finished last in some of the defensive metrics among big league shortstops last year, but is blossomed in one of the best players offensively in the game. He was on base more than two hundred and fifty times last year, fifty, two thirty three home runs seems like he's absorbed the same lesson. His Jose Altuve The walks have almost doubled the last four years now he's doing major major damage, and we talk about finding another face of the Red Sox and Boston sports, really because Brady's not here Gronk, snotty or Cetera et Cetera. Then Zander Bogart's is the guy that's already got a couple world series titles on his resume, and there's the personality because the type of guy that people should be drawn to. Your cleanup man. You're D. H. Number Twenty eight Jd. Martinez going to get back to the production of twenty eighteen. He always mashes lefties. He's going to do that again. At four four against lefties last year, two thousand eighteen was three thirty batting, average, forty three Homerun, hundred and thirty run batted in season. I mean obviously that's a lot to ask for even pro-rated, but I'm fascinated by JD Martinez who by the way still a has no walk off home runs. Can we get one of those? Charlie Culbertson has four. Of Twenty three total home and his career Martinez is no walk off on two hundred and thirty one home runs, but after he washed out with the Astros in two thousand thirteen. A great story because it was sending a lot of time in the trainer's room had bad wrist the ESPN feed. Who says it was always on? It's just a constant string of Ryan Braun. Talk because he was going through the allegations. But under every conversation, they'd show Ryan Braun highlights sweet uppercut, swing and a Don. Don J. D. after watching all this for basically weeks. He's like that's gotta be my swing. Yati Yada Yada. He's got that swing now and he tried to tell the Astros. He's gone away to wonder ball. I've worked on this I'm a totally new guy now jeff. Luneau didn't believe it and. Later Nine Times Outta ten. When someone tells you, they've gotten better during winter ball. It's just not true. This is obviously the one out of ten instead. About Mitch Moreland at first base batting fifth number eighteen with your doug man, cave, rich numbers and skill, set and quietly. Doug Man Cave Rich. I mean we were just kind of taken for granted now red sox first Baseman, his ever banked thousand games played boomer Scott came closes with nine, hundred, eighty eight. Only nine twenty. Mitch Moreland is starting to pick them up and put them down here. Never going to be a superstar, but he's a smart situational hitter knows how to use the green monster. Do was advantage and I've always liked Mitch. Moreland since I saw him. Come up with the Texas Rangers Way back in twenty ten while. Batting next your catcher number seven Christian Vasquez for the killer vs Vasquez and Alex Verduga him in a Moment Vasquez, most improved from last year comeback player of the year. Maybe I don't actually got that award, but he deserved it. He had never hit more than five home runs in any season. Until last season, he had thirteen at the All star break. A Willy Mopani. Laser show, but also was a gold glove finalist by the end of the year or two with twenty three home runs at the end and a legacy of great cash or some Puerto Rico. Vasquez wants to be part of that group. Pudge Rodriguez wore number seven is well. You've got. Yati Malino. Whose career is starting to creep towards the end. Go back. Sandy alomar Junior Hobby Lopez Benito Santiago for hape Asada in Vasquez very serious about wanting to be part of that Puerto Rican catching culture. As for Verdoux, go wearing number ninety nine something Manny Ramirez, did for the La Dodgers, and now former La dodger for do go comes to Boston. Look you don't replace Mookie Betts. We know that not possible, but this guy plays defense like mookie he really does. He had fourteen defensive runs saved for the dodgers. Last year was a positive sixty s when he added to play left field, and he can play centre as well. There's a lot of guys can in theory play center, which is great to have, and now like you gotTa platoon here. He's actually hit lefties a little bit better than writings in his career. The O. P. S.'s two points higher against lefties. Surprise to find out after that should be at least on opening day and second base. Known up. Peraza, Jose Peraza and by the way Pedroia is going to end his playing career with a batting average of two ninety nine. What a shame! It was at three hundred, and then he came back, he tried to play. He didn't play well. He was heard obviously and these. Ninety nine Peraza to thirty nine with Cincinnati last here from pokey reese to Brandon. Phillips we've seen former reds, middle infielders come to Boston and compete before and the coaches seem more impressed than you might expect with Jose Peraza. There's kind of a pedestrian guy when you when you look at his stats, but Ronchi says we love him, and you swing has been great great vp is. Is GonNa be the second Baseman here and he can get starts at short and third win. Zander and Rob Evers need days off finally we go to number nine in the order. That's your center fielder contract year number Nineteen Jackie Bradley Jr. Now Forty Games in last year. He was hitting one forty four forty games this year. That's two thirds of the season, so that can't happen. You Love Jackie Bradley Jr... Now Jackie Bradley the third undersized in high school. We were just talking about Dustin Pedroia and there's a lot of that with Bradley wasn't invited to the prominent showcase events. He went undrafted as a high school senior, but when he gets going as you mean. How many guys are on their resume? have it that they flirted with a thirty game hitting streak their batting ninth in somebody's batting order. Last year, Jackie ended Ryan Presley streak of forty consecutive scoreless appearances, a monster home run so hopefully a nice bounce back over all year for J. B. J. on the bitch. Couple of catchers to clue you and I'm Kevin. Will wear twenty-five out of purdue former met former Indian Jonathan Lukoil will wear number twelve. This guy was fourth an MVP to balloting not too long ago for Milwaukee's thirty four years old now is coming off neck surgery, but his old before the next thing and all the other injuries has opie was seven eighty four when he was healthy? It's been six sixty six ever since. Little pause in the action here just to talk for a moment about something. That's not all that easy to talk about. Nobody loves talking about erectile function. I get that brush off. Usually we say lost my mo, Jo, we just kind of move it along with Santa had a long day at work or sorry. Honey nut, feeling tonight, but hey with Roman let's talk about this with A. A real doctor who can prescribe real medication simple safe, totally discreet with Roman. You get a free online evaluation ongoing here for ed all from the comfort and privacy of your home. The doctor works with you to find the best treatment plan. You get it shipped to you free two day shipping here. The old process very straightforward, very discreet. Just go to get rolling dot com slash socks. And complete your online visit. That's it go to get Roman dot com slash socks, and if approved, you'll get fifty dollars off your first order of Ed treatment. That's get Roman dot. COM SLASH SOX GET ROMAN DOT com slash socks. Now back to our program. Jonathan. Is The guy that probably will stay here. An infielder wearing number thirty six twenty one year old rule five take is not ready for prime time, but the stocks are going to keep them around added. Their organizational depth otherwise has got to be returned to the Astros. Perfect scenario for rule five guy right as short season. The socks aren't really expected to go to a world series. Just had a two run walk off on in an intra squad game. That's Nice, came off the other newly signed Hander Zach Godly. Who will talk about in a moment? Okay! There's still zoo way Lynn. He's at the change uniform numbers he's. He's basically six times better this year. He's from five to thirty. This can be your tenth inning. Pinch runner since there's the new rule about if you're in extra innings, you gotta start with that runner at second base wondering where do it is when you need them or is there Lewis Rodas Nixon but Zu Lynn for now? We'll do Michael Chavez don't forget wearing number twenty three is still in the mix, and there's always charismatic twenty three. It seems I don't know if tom renounced he was charismatic I. Always the Oil Can Boyd certainly. The chief the Ice Horse. Whatever you WANNA. Call them needed. Sixty six games did is I fifteen home runs last year? The quickest pace for a red sox players since the Great Sam, Horn did it in sixty games, but shave one of only six players to have one hundred strikeouts there I. Seventy Games played ever lot of modern guys doing it. Baya's Miguel Sonoda Trevor, story, George. Springer your lawn. When cottage on that list and Chaves in fact Chavis a three strikeout game seven times last year. Ted Williams three times in his entire career about twenty three hundred games. I've said off. This guy ends up being Dan. Uggla I'm fine with that I. Really Am. We should mention a bench player. WHO's not here and that's the Bronx Star like Alice Cooper in the original. Wayne's world. He is now rocking out in Milwaukee Milwaukee. Milwaukee Brewer, they're not worthy of Brock Holt, but a guy that's cast in that mold kind of that scrappy go get a guy here comes Kevin Pollak aware number, five outfielder, who plays with a chip on his shoulder, was a thirty second round draft pick a division school, and the Red Sox getting on a one year deal four point, two, five, million, very familiar, sounding Steve Pearce. Pearce kind of deal was signed on Valentine's Day twenty one homers last year with the giants, and that was a career high, but the on-base percentage has got to get a lot. Better wasn't even three hundred last year. All I know is giants. Fans are checked that this guy is not back. They thought he was really important for their team last year, veteran guy good guy. All right, so we go do some pitching. Let's do some pitching. We mentioned native all the opening day. Starter and former world series cult-hero that helps, but also a guy who yeah last year with flirting with the six CRA. Jake Jillian Hall look alike. I think learned last year. Triple digits fastball doesn't do much if it's not well located in the breaking balls now working along with the splitter, previously a good pitch forum, but it was more of A. Kind of like a joke Kelly thing out of the bullpen. Right I mean some moments of brilliance, but them not so much. Remember there were only two teams he had interest in signing with after the world series. The Red Sox on the Astros, and he's from the Houston area. That would have made a lot of sense but It just didn't work out. I, think is very important now that he's here, Collin McHugh. Will he be something? He was maybe going to go back to the Astros at some point, too, but he's now with the red. SOX will touch on him momentarily, but let's get to erode. You'd think that this would be your opening day. Guy 'cause he won nineteen games last year, but the COVA concerns. He's coming back slowly from that. He was last year of course the breakout star when sale import Selo and and to a lesser extent, price all disappointed and i. just remember something Aaron Judge said last year. He said that the difference has been overall command when he thinks about at Water Rodriguez Command of everything he's got the great fastball command, especially in her half to righties, but the SOx tried to make it a point for Rodriguez to be aggressive, established the inner part of the zone, and it's something that he mentioned after a lot of starts last year that one as assertive and doesn't try to nibble. Best cutters working well the change up to righties. You've got that Combo. You got to absolutely respect that I respect that he became a workforce last year, two hundred innings guy after never before having been to one forty, and he induced the most soft contact of any starter in the entire American league last year, twenty three percent I was better than Garrett Cole Lucas G. Alita was second. You know who is third was report Selo go figure didn't translate to result. Speaking of which that leads us to Martine Peres. Good stuff didn't really translate kind of Diet Iran. Same Repertoire lots of curves and CHANGEUPS. When he was with the Rangers, this was a guy who was very apprehensive and timid didn't trust his stuff with Minnesota for a while, he seemed to gain confidence and got better. Number four starter at least historical house, going to be Ryan Weber. Journeyman soft toss her love, the guy but I mean wow. These are number four starter. Twenty nine pitch quality. It was there. I mean the horizontal breakout his curve ball. They say top two percent late break with top ten percents for the nerds love his stuff. Go to pitch has been that to seem sinkers since he was ten years old, no one taught him how to throw it. He just figured it out by watching Tama Hudson and Greg Maddux TV all the time. The Braves Games. He said I just wanted the ball to move like that. Because no ten year old can hit that stayed with it. I like that and he was a brave for awhile and mariner array originally affiliates draft choice at clearwater high school. Just up the road from the PHILLIES, Spring, training complex. How about Bryan Johnson? He's in the mix all of a sudden and you talk about a guy that you root for in other Florida, native cocoa beach very fast worker. We like that University of Florida. He was a Gator, although his dad had been a football player rival Florida state for Bobby Bowden, but I think for Brian Johnson I. Just always think about how life is being a trifle unfair to him ever since he's gotten in a pro ball batted ball to the face, shoulder, injuries elbow injuries. He was carjacked at gun point. If you, guys remember Jennie. Garth is Kelly on nine. Oh, two one! Oh, the most troubled character in the history of television in a ten year run of that show that character had an alcoholic mom, a drug addict brothers. She became addicted to cocaine. She Got Amnesia. She was a subject of attempted murder by a stocker. She was trapped inside a burning building after joining a cult. In the hallmark channel movie about Brian Johnson's Life Jennie garth gets for shot at the role I mean Brian Johnson God, bless them fighting through anxiety and. Everything else. He's had to deal with just an easy guy to root for, but just when you think he's got a spot locked up. Here comes Zach Godly. Who in Arizona was not even the best? Zach G in his own rotation. Exact Cranky was there to. He throws his curve ball on his own last name amount of forty percent of the time. Basically, but this is a very enigmatic guy I mean he'll. He'll Mo- through a lineup. One starts to throw strikes the next. He was a fifteen game winner in two thousand seventeen. But. He was released by the diamondbacks and this spring training couldn't make the Tigers spelled just kinda throwing that out there or let's finish up with the bullpen here and this is GonNa be a deep dive a lot of bullpen, right, Brandon Workman. There's top of the pyramid, and because red sox were generally disappointment last year. They didn't make the playoffs after they won a world. World series and that got a lot of attention by. If you were paying attention, workman just chucked up curveball after curveball after curveball got the role of closed for eventually, and in his last twenty six appearances last year. A one sixty five slugging percentage is what he allowed think about that one sixty five for a slugging percentage. He struck out forty in his last twenty six. Hundred, and thirty five times last year there was a batted ball against workman. One time it was chartered as a barrel. That is absolutely insane. We don't talk enough about the year that he just had. Can he do it again? Not looked good and limited work since coming back from the long pandemic break. How `Bout Matt Barnes speaking of trying to come back now Danbury Connecticut native a well located ninety four mile, an hour pitch far more effective than a poorly placed ninety seven mile an hour. Pitcher think Matt learned that last year. He had more blown saves than actual saves last year, so something's gotTa give same for Heath Henry now. He was around ninety two miles an hour when he came back from being hurt and that's not going to go at all for for. Henry, that's how that continue. What about Ryan Brazier? Very Competitive Gary Sanchez knows all about that. When he was ordered to get back in the bleeping box during the LDS couple years ago and Brazier promptly struck him out when he did, but he was just awful for the Red Sox in May of last year seven point. Even worse in July with a ten point, five fastball location simply was not there Josh. Taylor is on the team, but slowly making his way back. He was on the Cova List. Originally signed by the phillies lefty, the like data I mean he's not a specialist lefty, which by the way is no longer a thing this year you gotta face three batters in a row unless the inning. inning ends, but another guy that you root for this is a guy that you know never received a big signing bonuses. Work Customer Service the Phoenix Convention Center the last several off seasons elbow on the docks, helping out with the trucks out and back and taken whatever was opted trucks inside stuff like that. Josh Beckett look alike, but he's a little less surly than Josh Beckett. Austin, Bryce, former, moral and Josh osage, former, white, sox and giant. They'll be around brewer. We heard from him in depth on the podcast last week, twenty seven years old now, and the red sox tried to sign him as a minor league free agent, heading into eighteen landed with the padres instead, and this is one of those guys where the analytics group just likes to fastball data. They like how everything he throws moves. They thought they could kind of sandown the edges last year, and at times it went okay, but not not great. Marcus Walden Marcus. Lol, another guy that just from out of nowhere thirty year old minor league, free agent guide just Blam. Oh, here he comes early August last year we had a stretch of thirty batters faced, and no hits the loud until Carlos Santana walked him off in Cleveland with an obstacle, the homerun hanging slider I recall, but this is the guy who four or five years ago was pitching an Amish Country Lancaster. Pennsylvania for an independent team managed by Butch Hobson of all people and released by a lot of teams Indie Ball, all of that good on your market fault for making a go of it. Darwin's under Hernandez very important player, and again the Kovin protocol so he's slowed. Close to seventeen strikeouts per nine innings last year as a rookie, a red SOx record, rookie, or not, and the latest in a long line of hard, throwing Venezuelan left to roll through this farm system, certainly the most successful so far doesn't give up extra-base hits to let these big not bad for a guy who signed for seventy five hundred dollars back in twenty thirteen. And we'll. Finish up with Collin McHugh. Guy That I got to know what the mets when I came up and just a really thoughtful insightful guy sharpened his sword. Houston Astros, because I love that spin rate on his curve ball. It's a big if if he's healthy. But he can certainly contribute as well and what's going to be? Let's face it everybody an absolutely strange nine weeks. That's all this is. It's basically a nine week season. And I, it's a race to see not only who can get to that thirty six wind total like we discussed, but who can stay sane who can do the little things necessary to just kinda tune out the drumbeat of no drumbeat. There's not going to be real fans there. There's going to be fan noise, but was the psychology of that can be all about. There's still so much that a lot of people I mean. Certainly the players have to to get to here and think of this like an NFL season this year if you start out twelve eighteen. Dusty equivalent to being three and five if you're the Patriots and As. We know unless NFL team goes seven and one down the stretch after three and five. They are cooked at that point. So getting out to eastern start and having a lot of orioles on the early schedule here, that should help, but They cannot stumble like they did last year. Remember that terrible open road trip. That was my introduction of the Red Sox by the way. Hi, I'm your new announcer with Joe Castiglione? Oh, they're gonNA start to and eight I hate this guy and just to leave you with this. I know that drill pretty well. Because my one year with the cubs, they started out owen fourteen and everybody blamed the new guy. Anyway hope you've enjoyed this little run through the. The roster there will be more changes more things to discover and decipher, and we'll do that together as we go, but half the opening day. Thanks for tuning in, please stay safe and please don't make fun of any of the players that are wearing masks. They're they're doing the Lord's work here. I'm not kidding I. Mean we're we're all supposed to be respect. You wouldn't just walk up to somebody and sneeze on them. Would you just to be an idiot? Well. We don't have all the hard data even yet about. How easily this stuff spreads from person to person I happen to think it spreads fairly easily from prison a person and so does the CDC so somebody who wants to wear a mask the entire game, even while they bat I hope you'll applaud and not tweet something disgusting. That's just my personal thought on that okay. This is Josh Lewin China to keep an apolitical the rest of the way, but again thanks for tuning in Red Sox beat from C.. L. S..

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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 236: Suspensions, Bubble Talk, and Standings Updates

GSMC Baseball Podcast

1:20:13 hr | 8 months ago

GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 236: Suspensions, Bubble Talk, and Standings Updates

"The. Golden, state concepts, baseball podcasts we cover everything majorly from sprint treat the world series got your favorite club cover from New York to Boston to La. vix Is the golden state media concepts, baseball podcast. Thank you for tuning it again to the. Baseball podcast brought to you by the GMC podcast network. I'm your host Colin Manley joining you again it is currently August eleventh as of this recording, and it is time to talk some more baseball. We are past that quarter market is season unbelievable that we are there, and we are starting to see some players even turn their seasons around. Yeah. We've been played enough games for that. Some teams are pulling away from others are even falling apart, and all I have to say is the drama that we'd see in a full baseball season is starting to take form. And I am all for I'm all for every part of it because it's starting to feel real. We got a ton of things to talk about on this episode including news and noise around the League making sure you're caught up on all big league teams. We have some suspension talk that we have to have out there. COMING SUSPENSIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA most likely see shortly player decisions. This one's going to get me heated I. Don't talk about it and a potential bubble. We're GONNA talk about some real or fake takes on performances. Teams we are in the standings where we are with players, and then lastly we're GonNa talk about some players that we just want to come back and have them be their normal selves again. But we're GONNA start off with that news and noise around the League keeping you up to date on all big information across the thirty teams in Mlb and stop me if you've heard this one before the cardinals have just postponed a baseball game. Yup. The doubleheader between the Saint Louis Cardinals and Detroit Tigers for this week is being postponed as well. The MLB is. Operatives to postpone the double header while some additional testing is being done for cardinals, players, and staff that are still quarantine before the team returns to play lot more details going to be coming, they had a series. The cardinals did in Pittsburgh that was set to start on Monday that obviously was postponed as well. After a weekend series with the cubs was also ditched because of some positive corona virus tests over the weekend Saint Louis ended up having to more players in one staff member. So that's why since Friday we've seen a lot of things getting scrapped. That brings Major League baseball up to a grand total of twenty nine games that have been postponed because of Corona virus concerns. Now, some of those games have already been started to be made up with doubleheaders, which is nice but they're definitely still climbing with the things with the cardinals who have not played. Since, July thirtieth had a total of fifteen games scrapped on their season so far. They are going to have some work I've talked about it before I've been talking about it with so many people. It's GonNa get crazy the thought of the cardinals even potentially getting sixty games in here if they start playing again. Hopefully. Soon, what's going to end up happening if they're competitive and? Maybe should be fighting for a playoff spot. This is just GonNa get crazier and crazier as the season goes on. Member Miami and Philadelphia they each had seven games postponed earlier. And, they return to the field and they've been getting these games in. So things have actually been going pretty well for them so far. Fingers crossed keeps going that way some news at a camper the New York mets. Well, Marcus Stroman. He has decided to opt out of the twenty twenty season. He was optimistic to play earlier in the year but recovery from a torn left calf muscle. Complete and he was in line to possibly make a season debut next week they were thinking against the marlins but with everything going on with the corona viruses, well, he has decided that he is going to be done. Kind of stated that he's see what you're do what's happening with the cardinals and the Marlins, and you see the spikes that are happening in the country. And he just doesn't think that protocols are being handled well by a lot of their people. So he's making the decision for himself that he is going to step away and that's just another big loss for the mets as. Own Assessment is walked away earlier in the season. You don't have Noah syndergaard who is recovering from some injuries. It's just trouble for this mets team and they got a lot of things that they need to figure out right now and. Man You just you hope they get. Something on the field, but they're gonNA have to get creative right now. Looking at some injury news will Josh Donaldson the twins he's still hasn't ramped up to full speed. He's not sprinting at all right now using any agility since he strained his right calf during a July thirty first game against the Cleveland Indians. He continues to be taking batting practice says the team taking ground balls doing some running, but it's just not full speed work right now. Bright their team is thinking that they're trying to take things slow within they don't want to be too aggressive with because the offense has been pretty good with the twins they want to ease him back in and you can't blame them as they're sitting in I in ails central right now manager Rocco Belt Delis. been talking about the two other, just going to sit more on the conservative side because they don't want to rush him back. If they don't have to for the Boston Red Sox Rafael Devers, he was not in the starting lineup for Monday's game against the rays abdomen way park interestingly enough because beforehand he smashed a massive homerun and was showing that glove at third base. Earlier in the week but. He's dealing with an injured left ankle right now. Have happened when he was crossing first base late in the game against the Blue Jays on Sunday. Ron Reynecke manager of the red SOx says it's not anything bad. It's not like a bad sprain. He could be available late as a pinch hitter in some games not a lot of swelling. They're just kind of taking things day to day right now. Just trying to get him back to his full self. No real rush for the Red Sox I mean they're a team that's kind of struggling right now. But Denver's also hasn't had the hottest bat for the team as he's been trying to get things rolling for himself this season as well. Speaking, about those Tampa Bay rays as well they have some pitching. Injuries man these pitching injuries they just keep coming the raise just actually placed Charlie Morton on the day I l this. Monday a day after he exited his start against the Yankees he was in the third inning he had some right shoulder inflammation. There was playing the game where he walked Aaron Hicks and you could just tell that he was struggling he was in a little bit of pain raise manager Kevin cash athletic trainer. They ran out there to check on him. He was not out there much longer as they walked off the mound. So the ten day I l is where he is sent to hoping that he can get things straight note because that raised pitching. Needs to get back to what they expected it to be at the start of the season if they wanna be contending later in the year, but also for the is earlier on Sunday they placed Oliver Drake on the ten day I l as well with a right biceps tendinitis drake had made five appearances. This season he's tied for the team lead with two saves. So that's definitely a loss at the back end of the bullpen for the raise they're gonNA have to get creative moving forward how they're going to close out some tight games Madison Bumgarner for the Bax he was placed on the ten day. I'll list with a mid back strain and this is just Sad news for a diamondbacks team that spent a lot of money on he only has four starts into the season. Those four starts have not looked too good for bumgarner either they don't consider it to be very serious. They only want him to miss a couple of starts. That's the Nice thing about the ten day L. With pictures. When at least it's a starter. You're not gonNA miss hopefully too much. But they have been noticing that he's been losing some velocity and his pitches. So the debates were getting concerned with that. He gave up six runs on four home runs over two innings of work in his last game. So trying to figure some things out, give them a little time to rest and hope that bumgarner comes back and more full-strength moving forward. For the La Dodgers Cory. Seager was out of the lineup Monday. Manager Dave Roberts the club is not considering placing them on the aisle right now. Definitely someone that they WANNA rush back but not too quickly because he has been probably their best bet in a strong strong offensive line of so far this season now interestingly enough though the dodgers have not diagnosed or at least disclosed with the diagnosis is so far. They're just saying that shortstop is having some lower back discomfort. He dove. To his right on a single to field by. A giants batter on Friday night could tell that it was bothering him a little bit. Right now, just looking to see if he can come back in short rest and return to that lineup and really helped boost that offense even more. The dodgers also placed Joe Kelley on the ten day I l with some right shoulder inflammation. Now, Kelly hasn't pitched for awhile last Saturday he allowed one hit striking to while finishing off the giants in a five four loss. He could miss. More time. Whence, he's activated off the I l. because he does have that eight game suspension they came from the MLB with the whole thing that happened with the Astros. Him throwing near players will say I. You can use your best judgment, and if you think it was at a guy or not I always questioned if a balls really being thrown at a person sometimes but Joe Kelley, also going to be going to the ten day I l for the dodgers. Angels, News and Drought and Simmons. He suffered a left ankle sprain on July twenty seventh when he landed on the back of first base on an infield hit. They believe that he is going to be coming back to the starting lineup soon, and that is straight from Joel Madden. The manager of the angels he said this on Monday quote he's getting close I've been talking to the trainers and he's getting close. He's taking batting practice on the field which would then put him in line to be considered to come back and quote. So even maybe even potential even though you have Shohei Otani, but if Otani has got an off day or something. or at least getting him some batting practice. Didn't give any specific timetable for a return like possible dates or game that they have lied up. They just think he's getting close in the has the potential of coming back shortly. Ver the Houston Astros. Springer he was out of the starting lineup for the third consecutive games. Sunday. Against the as it's been claimed to be strained right wrist dusty Baker said the fielder was making some tremendous progress. He suffered that injury when he was diving for a ball earlier last or later last week was considered day to day at the time. Would definitely be a big help to get back even though springer was struggling a little bit for that. Astra's team as well. They would be glad to have him coming back be a part of that lineup. For the, New York Yankees well, one slugger is heading to the ten day I'll list as well. Giancarlo Stanton. He came out after a double header game. said to have some tight left hamstring issues. Diagnosis agreed one strain. So he was running to second base on a wild pitch. Something flared up. He's GonNa. Be taking ten days off hoping that they could get him back. Offense has been quicken as well, and actually stanton has been hitting the ball. All right. There's there's just a lot of guys in that Yankees lineup who were just hitting home runs left and right Cincinnati reds Mike newstalk s he was placed on the ten day I'll list Sunday. Five. Days after exit game the Indians in the sixth inning. So right now, the move is they want to reactivate him Thursday if possible. Now. Says only played in seven games this season. But he has been a help to that offense hitting two, thirty, eight, two homers and six RBI's. Guys a big Bat. He was a big part of that addition in the off season made a Lotta moves for that red team. Sure. They'd be glad to have any boost the offense considering the good pitching they've been getting from Bauer and sunny gray and. Another news for that red steam as Pedro Strope, he went on the ten day I L. Tuesday with. A groin strain, the thirty, five year old he is Kinda struggled for the reds this year. And two thirds innings across four chances. He's said six walk. So control has been a big problem for the old reliever. He hasn't pitched since August seventh against the brewers failed to record a single out while walking apparent allowing run. Pitching is just a problem for that reds team outside of a couple of stud starters they really need to get things rolling, but they're not going to be having major strove for a while at least moving forward CJ krone for the Tigers was placed on the ten day I l as well with what was called a left knee sprain slugger exited Monday's game against the White Sox in the fourth after taking a hard hit ground ball off of his left knee. Definitely. Needed some assistance to get off of the field. It didn't look good right away hoping that it is just a left knee sprain, but it was just kind of a scary hard hit and like like I said was struggling to get off the field and he's been a little bit of a bright spot for the Tigers so they're hoping to get him back as much as a can. More. Mets, pitcher. News Michael Walker. He. Is going to be placed on the day L. as well with some right shoulder inflammation. So that's going to join Noah syndergaard and Marcus stroman with mets pitchers that were on the aisle and three total mets pitchers that are. Not Available at least moving forward outside of Jacob degrom. They are just struggling to get some starting pitching there in New, York? Who've with that's going to change for them maybe some transactions are possible but. They are actually towards the bottom of the NFL so that one's GonNa be a tough call to be made will Harris for the nationals he has been sidelines since July twenty eighth, which what was called a right groin strain but he could be coming back to that nationals bullpen. Soon would be a big addition for them. Scheduled to throw fifteen twenty inches against hitters on Tuesday if that goes, well, the team plans to have him cleared for return. Some. San. Francisco Giants News, the giants have placed. Jeff Samardzija on the ten day. I'll list Saturday due to a right shoulder impingement informed San Francisco's medical staff about a shoulder issue after he'd given up six runs over four plus innings and lost to the dodgers on Friday. It really puts a lot of doubt with this giants team. Now, some Marga was a big interesting name coming into this year because he has that massive contract, but he is in the final season of that big contract with the giants, He could have potentially been a trade ship. So we'll have to see what happens coming off that ten day I l list see if Marga can come out look strong potentially be someone who could be moved four that giants team. Carl Edwards, junior for the mariners was placed on the ten day L. as well. Monday. Due to a strained right forearm. He had been looking solid over five appearances. One point nine, three E. R.. They think he's going to be down a couple of weeks manager Scott Service thought a couple of weeks in this season is kind of a big deal but they think once this all comes down by the end of the week they have a chance that he can get up be throwing again and he won't be too long. Demon had stated as well. Service said that they were throwing the ball. He was throwing the ball really well hoped to get him back as soon as they can. And then we're going to end up here with some white sox news and man do the White Sox have a lot going on so Erin bummer. was placed on the ten day. I'll Saturday afternoon after gaming Cleveland with a left biceps strain? He's going to the teams alternate site. The club is about to start a three game road trip at Detroit. So he's not going to be traveling with the team. He was throwing pretty hard stuff yet a ninety, five MPH sinker. He was throwing on Friday night, but after he let it fly. He noticed he had something wrong. He was calling for a trainer they came out there. No real severity of the injury known right now. He was moving around pretty well afterwards. But. Still placed on that ten day I'll moving forward. Rinaldo Lopez, who had some right shoulder soreness he threw a little bit on Saturday. They're hoping that he can come back Carlos reknown. He played catch on Saturdays. Well, he might be ready to throw in some side sessions soon. So they have some potential names to come back, but there's still definitely a lot of problems going forward for the white sox trying to get some arms for them. Also some positional players Tim Anderson. He's working his way back from a strained right groin as well. He will travel with the team to Detroit. Go through a full routine team said to see if he's going to be ready to go soon. Get back and playing in that shortstop position because he had been great for that team in the leadoff but. At the same time Louise Robert has actually been pretty amazing for them leading off as well. White Sox are hopeful that he'll be activated sometime during the series while they're in Detroit and lastly Edwin encarnacion was scheduled for some more aggressive work in the batting cage on Sunday selena hoping that, Hey, are big time d. h. also has the potential to be coming back soon. So that's going to be it. For News and noise around the league. Of injuries going on over the weekend I mean man, there was just a lot of stints going to the I. L., teams really starting to struggle. We're GONNA see how important those alternate rosters end up becoming I think this season as we start getting further on. Some teams are really having to get creative and bringing players in transaction moves to try to keep roster pretty loaded and ready. We're GONNA be diving into our next segment. We're going to talk about some coming suspensions. Some player decisions that have been. Questionable I will say in the friendliest way and is there a potential bubble coming our way in the? MLB So we're going to look at all that here the GMC baseball podcast on the MC podcast network will be right back after this quick commercial break. This is your ultimate stop for everything sports, the golden state media concepts, or podcast should I say more from the NFL MLB the NBA 'em it's all in here. The golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen. Welcome back to the GMC baseball podcast just talking about news noise around the League get you updated on everything is going on and man. There's some more things to be talking about right now as we just got word. Of some suspensions that were handed down, we were GonNA talk about some suspensions a little bit I I came into here prepared to talk about how I think these should be going about but. Baseball jumped in for me. I don't have to make any predictions on anything going on Oakland Athletics outfielder Laura No has been suspended six games. And Houston Astros Hitting Coats Cintron has been suspended twenty game. So if you have not seen, it been hiding underneath a rock for quite a while we had a very very massive thing happened in major league baseball in the sense that we had a brawl take place. and. If you're someone that's just a fan of baseball, you would just be like well brawls. Let's not that crazy stuff happens. There's nothing out of the ordinary here. In a normal season. Yeah. But. This is actually turning into a very big league issue going forward because of Wall Street out Kobe nineteen it's. Your hate talking about it as much as you do me personally I know every time I prepare this podcast. I WANNA, avoid it I want to stay away from it, but it's just so much involved in the game right now you have. Nothing you can do, and there's just some disappointments that I've having a league. For many reasons and I'm hoping that they take the steps needed to fix this. But I, really am a little heated on this topic so I really wanted to get into it. So those are the suspensions that we have so. Six Games for Women Leonardo. He was very frustrated in that series with the Astros because he got hit three times in two games I believe that was the second time in that game. So you can tell that he has a little frustration if you're getting plugged hey, at the major league level. These guys have some of the best accuracy in the world and some of the best stuff but they're also kind of throwing very hard compared to other levels and so getting hit by baseball. Frustrating. He was leading his frustrations out going to first base. It could have ended there. We could have had nothing. But then Houston Astros hitting coach Alex Cintron. Started joining. With Larry Auto at first base. And this is where my first beef is the Houston Astros. Your got busted. On. A huge cheating scandal. You have a target on your bag already I know I said in my very first podcast teams to watch because I'm interested most of those teams were because of young players that I was excited to see and I put the Houston Astros on this list too because you knew they were going to have some drama and trouble around them. You cannot have your hitting coach. Sparking controversy. From the DUGOUT. These players in Houston have to have some of the most thick skin. This year you have to you have no choice. This is the Joe Kelley suspension bothers me even though Joe Kelly this guy can get just flat out he doesn't care. He was gonNA throw at your list because he was just bitter about the history. That one pitcher Carlos Correa was not throwing atom. I'm going to go out in the say it in a full count curve ball he was not throwing at you and Korea Just, just take your yet go to first base. It wasn't coming for Ya it's not in the same situation of where he's been getting plugged a ton and he's a little frustrated. No, it was in the count. It was a tight pitch. He wasn't coming for you two very different situations. But regardless, these guys are acting like they're being done wrong by other teams on the field sometimes, and it's thirty to get frustrating. And so Alex Cintron gets twenty game. Suspension. and. You never really know what's. What's the basis we're going off of? So what's Rob Manfred going with? What's MLB saying, why is it twenty games? I. I don't know what the right number is but even in this in my mind it just it feels like it's not enough because one you provoked to we're looking at this situation where we don't want any extra contact controversy in any way and you're up there provoking and screaming at players as a coach. And I don't WanNa get the benefit of the doubt to players over coaches because they're adults. But my goodness like you played such a massive role in this and it's just ridiculous. And then there's reports from all over the place. You don't really know what was said. There's no clarification on what was said Larry Ana says that he said something in Spanish to him that you just don't say about another about a family member and. It's I really was hoping. That MLB was gonNA clamp down hard on this. Now Twenty Games is a third of the season. It that looks like a massive massive. Suspension. And maybe just because of the fact that it's a shortened season twenty doesn't feel like enough because we have done a third of the season if there was one, hundred, sixty, two games. Hard to serve. But. You GotTa do something to keep these teams under control. Because you're trying so hard to keep this game going. Post. Post controversy with one team along with fighting the Kobe thing where you're trying to avoid contact keep people away from each other keep space keep social distancing keep mass try to everything right. When it comes to anything from now on, MLB has got to send a message. With these suspensions and people are going to hate this, take think because it's like we come to watch the players. We don't come to watch other things. But you gotta lay it doubt you gotta let these players know that you mean business in the sense that we want this season to carry on we don't want anything stupid to happen. So we're going to give suspensions when people do stupid stuff from here, auto. And it's leads me into the thing that I think I am most upset about and that has to do with Indians pitchers, the information that we got from them. Over the last few days. It's still has me going what the heck so. Zach please. Pitcher for the Cleveland Indians was sent home early. From Chicago on Sunday. Because on Saturday night. He decided to go out and about in Chicago. With friends. Breaking. Protocol. Of trying to avoid contact from other people being baseball. Baseball's to the Games to the stadiums hotels stadiums not much in between. Having that decision to go out is unbelievable. In the sense of where we were before the season started the fight to get the season started. We had so many players fighting for games fighting for salary fighting for so many things at the beginning I was with the players try to get the salary. You can't. Now you're going to have to be understanding because you're playing a percentage of the season but go and get the money you can because you ultimately are the people risking things here you're not going to see owners. You're not going to see general managers doing a ton of traveling like these players are. So they do have a right to some things here. But then you're having players being reckless and careless. Look at what we saw with the MARLINS and their outbreak rumors of players being out at clubs before it happened. Cardinals rumors of them being out at the casinos out golfing in places. Then an outbreak starts and now they're sitting here facing a fifteen game postponement right now. Now. You have a player who decided to willingly go out and about. In the Chicago, area. And then the team has to find out. And send him home? I know how hard this is in these times to just stay home it's ridiculous. Because you WANNA go out and you want to do things especially when you don't have the luxury of being able to do this staying home for extended periods of time is not easy. But you're a league, you're a player's association that just fought for a ton of money you WanNa make all this money when there's definitely a lot of the people that don't have the luxury of doing this right now because of a pandemic. And you're making these decisions. And right now, it's as simple as the team sent him home to self quarantine. Can the League get in on this punish? Because you're not following team protocol. You're not following the rules that you're supposed to to make sure this thing keeps going without issues. And then let's throw another load on top of this. The club then learns the Cleveland Indians that one of their best pitchers. Their best pitchers. Mike clovinger. Also broke team rules. And is going to have to self quarantine as well, and there's a story or at least the rumored tweet from John Hayman. Insider at the MLB network. that. Clever sat through a team meeting. And was defending please nick knowing he was out with him. He was there in a meeting knowing he was out with him defending it. And, then the Indians had to discover leader that clovinger had joined him. When they went out in Chicago. It's just. Reckless behavior by players, and this is the type of thing. That will end this all and the MLB is out here they through threats earlier that they will shut the season down if they have to. The players to play by the protocols as well. I. F- I. Just don't understand if I was a player that had millions on the line here. I fought for that I made the decision to play. and. Am I willing to really go out and risk it go out and about in the town when I know how much is at stake considering future money future contracts future everything that's going to be altered by the season. Are you going to be careless enough to go out and about afterwards. I, really hope the Indians take some sort of action send some sort of message if MLB doesn't because somebody has to step in here if we want this season to happen. We need to put the clamps down and it's scary because right now. We have the luxury of being able to make up some games. There's time in the regular season to do double headers and everything. We're going to get away with some things. We'll see how many games the cardinals and making backup the MARLINS and phillies are already on the way they're making games up. But. They're getting away with reckless behavior now. You won't be able to do that. If we get to a postseason if we get to October baseball and it's just ridiculous right now that they would even push those limits I just I can't get in the mind of the players in that mindset I can understand that they wanna go out and they be normal lives and do stuff. But with the luxury of them being able to play baseball earned these salaries. I just I can't get behind what they're doing. And there's just a lot of money to be made when it comes to off baseball. And that's why the MLB is potentially talking are at least starting talks about doing some sort of bubble lake, the M. L. or like the NBA and the h. l. when it comes to the playoffs, we've talked about the bubble many many times it was not realistic for a full season it could not happen there was too many games that had to be played. They would've spent way too much time. It's just it wasn't gonNA fit. I like the idea of trying to put something together for the playoffs because we're seeing these bubbles work for the NHL NBA, they're not letting people in. If. They're testing positive. They are quarantine in a way and they are not having positive tests inside of their bubbles whatsoever because when it comes down to it when we get to October when there's billions of dollars in TV money on the line. There is no time to make these games up. Jeff Passan. Great Espn reporter on the MLB has been talking about this. He had a great segment about this. What are you GonNa do if we don't do a bubble and then all of a sudden outbreak happened to a playoff team. Are you just GonNa tell I'm sorry go home. Are you going to say that if it's the Yankees? That's I mean, some people might be like. You know what it's going to be pretty easy to tell you know. The Cleveland Indians to go home it might it might be easy to go tell. Know might be easier to tell the Miami Marlins to go home because we didn't think there'd be good but if it happens to a contender. You can't slow down the season. You don't have the ability to make all these games and then if all of a sudden, we're doing double headers in the postseason. Teams aren't going to be happy about that either. But we gotta look into this bubble because we gotta do something at the end wants the cardinals come back we hope lake crazy. This thing is going to slow down. We hope that they're the last major outbreak. We're going to see because other teams are rolling right now the Marlins came back from it. They actually played well, they are going the phillies came back no issues. Hopefully. This thing keeps going well, but I really do think the MLB is on the right path here in deciding that, we may need to make a bubble format when it comes to the playoffs sixteen teams hosting a couple of games in some areas I think it could work that they've talked about southern California Chicago. Area Chicago. You'd have to stadiums, white sox and cubs to use New York I mean you got the mets, the Yankees you can get creative over there. Maybe even Hughes the Buffalo Stadium if it's up to your standards now that the Blue Jays are going to be there. You obviously don't know where spikes are going to be across the country or maybe the numbers will be down for Corona virus tests. When it comes to October I mean hopefully. But it's a good idea they should start moving forward with this. You could even do something in the sense of putting the National League in one side, the American league in another side doing to bubbles away from each other and then. Bringing teams together for the world series you can come up with something there. That's not going to be too difficult, and once you cut fourteen teams out of the equation because we are only sixteen teams play offs and these three game series they're really not GonNa last that long at least a first round. We're onto something. We are greatly onto something so That that's kind of. Updating when it comes to at least covid nineteen concerns some suspensions. Potential bubble it's it's just a heated topic. It's a frustrating topic you. You WanNa know what some of these guys are thinking you really do and. I just don't understand that I. Just I don't. We might hear more from clinger going forward. See if it was actually true. He was defending his teammate saying it wasn't a big. You just don't know the words. You don't know what he said. I'm waiting for more information I'm hoping I get it. because. I just want to know what's going through some of these players heads as this dog going on. That's just me. So that's GonNa be it for the second segment. We're GONNA, come back the next one we're GONNA talk about some real and fake some things going on in the season where we sitting all of our standing wise along with some statistics, we got some guys that are still surprising towards the top. Of The leaderboard when it comes to stats around the MLB looking forward to dive into that a little bit new listen in here the GMC baseball podcast on the GMC podcast network. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The golden state media concepts. PODCAST network is here nothing less than a podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast covered. From News, sports music fashion, entertainment fantasy football and so much more. So stop blurted around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to build the podcast. Whatever it may be visit, www dot Jesus MC podcast dot com follow us on facebook and twitter and download on itunes soundcloud and Google play. State. This is the GS. Baseball podcast on the. Z podcast network on your Colin Manley. Hoping you're having a great Wednesday so far only Wednesday. We're listening to this getting your news to you as quickly and up-to-date as we can. Just got done talking about the astro and as brawl, the suspensions that were handed down. Talking about the news with our Indians pitchers and How little careless decisions that happened in Chicago, the potential bubble that could be coming our way. But now it's time for us to talk about some. Real and fake. In the MLB wanted to discuss what we've seen throughout the season. We're getting these teams they're starting to inch towards twenty games on the year almost a third of the way through I want to talk about what we've seen safari. We think is real in this season what's going to be fake as we continue on because I? Mean we still got a good chunk of season left and we're going to look at some players and stats along with where our teams shake up right now across the MLB. Given all of our updates around the MLB when it comes to standing. So we're GONNA by looking at each division and how things have unfolded so far, and we're going to start off with the American. League east and sitting atop. Team that we thought was going to take this division that New York Yankees. They are at ten and six right now atop the division. And that's coming with two game losing streak at the moment. Still continuing to put up a ton of runs. Seventy nine runs scored in the season towards the top end of the leaderboards especially in the. American league. Plus fourteen run differential. But that means they're giving up sixty five runs so far this year definitely wanting to bring that number down with some pitching as well. The back end of their bullpen is starting to get a little bit healthier as all Chapman came back. Zach Britton back there being pretty dominant as he's been all season. This Yankees team is going to continue to be good. They did take a hit with Giancarlo Stanton going the aisle recently, but they still got a lot of offenses I believe they are starting to look into calling up for frazier as well. So that only help their offense going forward as Aaron judge has been a guy really mashing the season then sitting right behind him hey, those Tampa Bay rays they're making a climb finally that was a team that we thought could be more. Competitive than maybe you thought in this American League they are now up to nine and eight winning record after being towards the bottom of the east for a lot of this, they've won three in a row. Baltimore has just fallen below them for third. They're still sitting at five, hundred, seven seven hanging on that American league and then Toronto and Boston bringing up the Bo- bottom end. The thing I gotta bring up that's really interesting about this is Boston scored seventy runs this year. Lot of lot of offense for them not bad. Yankees. Are Seventy, nine seventy. Giving up seventy runs. Pitching is just been brutal, brutal, brutal brutal in. Boston. In the American league central we got the Minnesota twins sitting at eleven six on top. They just got back in their winning ways as they took one from the brewers Randy DOBRNAC pitch and a good game for them. They have one of the best offenses in the American League as well tied for tops in the American league and runs scored at eighty two run so far this year only giving up fifty, seven plus twenty five win run differential is huge. Detroit Tigers the surprising team right now in second in the American League, Central Ben Pretty Competitive Winning Games on the road five and one on the road. They're run differential pretty tight as their only plus four. So it makes you wonder if they've been getting a little fluky with winning a lot of close games. The Cleveland Indians then sitting third that's the team I would expect to climb up a little bit. I think they would jump over that tigers team I don't think they could keep this run really going I. also wonder about a Chicago White Sox team that's sitting in four three right now in that division at eight nine, they've just lost three in a row. They got a lot of injuries that they're trying to overcome right now at full strength, they can really get some things going they've scored seven runs so far this season as well. Thinking that at least towards the end of the year, we can see Cleveland and Chicago. White sox move up while Detroit slides down and then Kansas City team that we probably really expected to be sitting towards the bottom but interestingly enough at seven and ten right now they have won their last four games so. Something worth noting in the Al West. The team to beat right now in the American League, the Oakland A.'s they just lost their first game in a while as they were on a nine game win streak. Mike. Trout at a big part to do with that as the angels took them down last night and then rape below them. The Houston. Astros. Again, we thought these were going to be the two teams. HOUSTON, Astros kind of struggling a little bit seven nine right now on the season. But both these teams have scored eighty runs so far this season the Oakland A.'s at eighty. Houston Astros at eighty two. Difference, between the two teams plus twenty two run differential for Oakland. Plus Three, for Houston. Pitching Bene- struggle there especially with a little pitching health for them as well as they lost burland for some stretch of time and they're closer and ABS Oona. Bringing up the bottom of that Texas Seattle the La Angels in that order all really around the same. Record right. Now could be a lot of movement between those three teams. The National League well. Even with losing two games in a row. Percentage Wise. The Miami Marlins are still sitting on top of the National League East and I find that quite quite incredible. Don't think that one's GonNa. Last. Sorry to say it. Marlins fans I just can't see a way that this makeshift team which didn't have a lot of star power on their team to begin with. Would continue to thrive there only outscoring opponents by four runs total on the season. With that seven three record. So I really think that's going to change and you got a team behind them in the Atlanta braves who I think right now would be considered the favourite still in the national. League. East Eleven and seven have scored ninety five runs this year given up seventy three a Lotta runs but they've also taken a big hit to their starting pitching on the year with some injuries and they just trying to figure things out a big news for them was nick marquess ended up coming back after he originally opted out of the season. That's a nice gain, but you hope that he can get up to speed because it will take a little time as he's behind some of these players. Trying to get back into playing shape and speed. The Philadelphia phillies sit below five and six the Washington nationals five at seven. They're trying to pick up some gains from postponements. These offenses are going to be interesting. Juan Soto just came back for the nationals. The phillies bats look like they're coming alive a little bit. It's GonNa be pitching for these two teams. Starting pitching for Philadelphia and Washington, we know the nationals have good pitching. Problem is for them as they got some injuries over commerce. Sherzer had to leave a game early. Strasbourg just came back. He isn't quite looking like the Strasbourg that we all know from last season the one that was just flat out. Dominant for the nationals and then at the very bottom of the National League is we got the New York mets and. They are seven and ten and have scored seventy runs not awful. But they have given up ninety two towards the bottom of not just. The national. League but MLB baseball altogether. That's just a lot of runs to be giving up and they're pitching. Like we mentioned before taking another big hit Marcus stroman decided to opt out of the season the national league central well, the cubs are sitting atop right now. But they're waiting to play some baseball games again as their series with Saint Louis ended up, getting canceled, and actually put the cardinals in second right now winning percentage wise in the NFL essential just because of the fact that the barely played any games they're. Waiting to get through were hoping hoping. That we see some games from them moving forward but. The rest of this week is very much in question. Saint Louis Has Cincinnati. Right behind them. In the standings right now at seven and nine. Sixty seven runs scored seventy seven runs given up problem with that is they've had some good pitching from two of their starters and still have given up seventy seven runs. Their offense hasn't been in full swing because of health wise. They haven't had everybody there that they expected at the start of the season. It's a team definitely still to watch. Have the potential to be quite competitive in that national league central, they show moments. Of looking incredibly tough, but it's all. Drinking those games together moving forward the Milwaukee brewers than sitting in fourth at six and eight. They're kind of similar in the sense that they show moments that things are looking good than other moments not so much. They got fourteen games in. They're just not scoring a lot of runs right now their offense needs to really get going. Pitching his Ben. Not the greatest, but it's also not killing them in the sense that they're just not putting runs on the board and then Pittsburgh sitting at the bottom of the NFL central at three and thirteen, easily the worst league and Major. Worst Record and Major League baseball right now. They. They are going to be sellers early, and if you're looking to try to get a player from them at least one of their competitive players, that's the team I'd be looking at Pittsburgh. Trying to pry some guys away. In the national. League West. We have the Colorado rockies still sitting top at eleven and five eleven and five, and they just lost two in a row. These, guys are putting up runs eighty eight runs in the division, but there's also other teams in the nationally west putting up those runs. As of right now, the Rockies, the dodgers and padres him all scored eighty eight runs on the season. But here's the difference between the three. The rockies have given up sixty one, the dodgers have given up forty eight. PADRES. Have Given. Up Seventy three. Dodgers have looked like the most dominant team in this division. Will have to see going forward. I would expect that dodgers team to bump ahead of the rockies. If they keep this competitive pace going power to them that dodgers team is just too talented in my mind to not jump up that spot and then that San Diego team, they might be locking themselves into third as we're starting to see a little bit of a struggle from Arizona and San Francisco. San Francisco was kind of bad in a little bit. We thought man they're really gonNA come down. They're gonNA come back to life here and that's been happening at least recently when it comes to looking at the giants. They put up a good fight right away and the thing is they also have some bright spots in their team. Some fun competitive spots. Some. Young players that potentially could show something but also some veterans and like Donovan Solano. Yastrzembsky who's been looking like a just a top notch hitter. It's hard to believe how much time you spend on the miners. He's twenty nine years old. Now he doesn't have a lot of and it'll be experienced underneath him but. Definitely a lot going on there for the giants. You never know they. They've been giving some teams fits as the season's been going on. So we'll see about them. That's really a look around at the league where we are standings wise right now records. Want to take a time to shout some statistics right now, we just talked about Donovan Solano he's betting four, fifty eight on the year. There's one guy who has the better batting average and I'm GONNA stand by this, and they got to point this out because he was my quarter pick of the year MVP Charlie Blackmon. I had hopes this year that somebody was going to hit over four hundred. He's hitting four eighty four right now with three home runs and he's tied for first in the majors at nine thousand, nine, hundred RBI as well. Thirty, four year old. Doesn't always get the love. He deserves I have to say it. He has been just flat out dominant in his last twenty six at bats. He has seventeen hits. And four walks. He's an unbelievable on believable. GotTa give this guy to shout out towards the top of the League Kyle Lewis a rookie at 373. He's still sitting up there when it comes to. Hidden well, am I worried about his strikeout numbers but? He's still doing a good job getting on base home runs. Wise Aaron judge he's been off to a hot start mashing recently though two guys catching up to Fernando Totti's also at eight home runs. This guy is a future star in baseball. Fun, to watch on their PADRES team and then Big Dad Dad Strength Mike Trout. He's at seven home runs so far this year as well. He Has Been Great Rbi's we talked about a Charlie blackmon he's leading the league at nineteen tied with Aaron, judge at Nineteen. Right behind him, though eighteen, a piece tattoos as well and Kyle seager. For Seattle WanNa give shadow to that other seger brother. Might be an interesting trade ship trade target. Later in the year Kyle seager just throwing that one out there thirty, two year old I believe right now. They haven't himself a quietly good season for the mariners batting just a smidge under three hundred. But bringing in those runs right now. Then of course, Nelson Cruz sitting at. Sixteen rb as well as he's been a big part of twins having success. Hits. Same suspects, Blackman Donovan Solano Kyle Lewis. Those three have been great Blackman with thirty one Solano twenty-seven Kyle Lewis Twenty Five ben just great sticks for each of their teams respectively when it comes to pitching leaders, we got a long list of dudes that have three win so far on the season. Randy dope who picked up against the BREWERS, Shane? Bieber. WHO's Ben unbelievable stiffling stripling sorry for the dodgers free for Atlanta Sunny Gray Garrett Cole for the Yankees the big free agent acquisition those guys all lead the League right now at three wins a piece. When IT COMES TO ERA Randy, dove neck again point nine. Oh I'm hoping he gets some love for that rookie of the year in the American League we talked about it before. Is a lot of great hitters, lot players in the American league rookies. He is just quietly being great with that point nine you're a and then Trevor Bauer behind him with point nine three. So two guys currently sitting under that one area having good seasons followed by Lance Lynn with at one point one six, and then Zach police work a guy from Cleveland who just got sent home at a one point two nine going right now saves wise. We got three guys with five. Saves. Liam. Hendriks for Oakland Great. Bullpen has been strong towards the end Joe Jimenez for Detroit big part of why that Detroit team has been quietly competitive. They're closing games at the end Zach Britton who's been pretty strong. Think he had his first little rough outing of the year. As. He had one point two innings in the last seven days giving up one run. He's he's just been solid as well. A give up any runs at home so he's been doing while there. When it comes to strike outs Shane beaver sitting way up top at forty three right now is stuff has been amazing. If you have not had the chance to watch him, make sure you go do that. He has been great. COUPLE OF CINCINNATI GUYS Sunny Gray at thirty five strikeouts Trevor Bauer thirty two, they've been awesome. Lance. Lynn at thirty right behind him and an Aaron Nola. He's got twenty nine on the season. So Ben, some solid solid pitchers. Going out there so far this season. I. I thought it was going to be a little slow for pitchers. If I'm honest to start the year I thought some guys were really gonNA struggle and there was talks early in some of these games these. That were being played before the regular season picked up of some juice. And they really thought it was going to be a hitting year and there has been some offense but we've surprisingly see quite a few pictures come out and look strong to start this season as well. So that's going to be our look around the league with some things. We think that are real and fake with teams also giving our show to some of the best in stats right now in MLB, we got some great performances going on. Charlie Blackmon I'M GONNA keep saying his name I'm going to keep watching him pounding. Pounding, for him to get MVP votes because a guy's been pretty good and Colorado for a while and while he's been in all star Games, I don't know if he's been getting the love that he should be. Our next segment coming up. I want to look at some players that are maybe coming back around we hope and come back around. I'll get more into it after this commercial break. Listen here on the GSM see baseball podcasts on the GMC podcast network. Wants to know the latest and soccer the listen to the golden state media concepts soccer podcast M. L. S., is the world the premier league got you covered the latest update hottest matches at news on the League's top players good state media concept soccer podcasts. Listen Just. This is the GMC baseball podcast on the GMC PODCAST Network I'm your host Colin Manley. We just got done talking about the legal whole we have for standings. What do we have some major stats leaders some things that are going on guys that are killing it right now, teams that are doing well some teams that we. Maybe think are going to change get better get worse as the season goes on. It's always fun to talk about that and reflect and think about what we have coming next. But for our last segment. I WanNa talk about some players that we expected great things, this is going to be my baby comeback segment. Had It all here even looked up all the lyrics for the baby comeback Song. You know you can blame it on the short and season we were wrong and we just can't live without you being successful. So I have some players here that I wanted to talk about the sense that we just want these guys to turn around because in mlb it's just not the same without him and we also have their numbers from their last seven days to see, hey, are they making a little bit of a trend upward right now? How are things going? And the first guy that I have to pick is definitely a proximity pick to me just because I know how much people are struggling in the Wisconsin. Seeing Christian, Yelich not being the stick that he has been in the past now Christian Yelich in twenty twenty right now is batting one fifty-seven oddly enough with four home runs tied for sixteenth and nine RBI is so you know he's still got a little bit of power numbers but he is just not doing what he's done in the past I mean his stats have been crazy. In Milwaukee the last two years as he batted three, twenty, nine and twenty, thousand, nine, hundred and three, twenty, six in two thousand eighteen batting title type season so that one fifty seven is just not that strong for him right now obviously and only twenty eight years old you wouldn't think that he would be making a decline especially after the massive contract that brewers just signed him to. His last seven days though six games twenty at bats, five hits. So batting around fifty. Is it his normal? No but it's coming around got three home runs in his last six games. He's got a triple. Six RBI's. One thing. That's a little more promising as he was struggling with a lot of strikeouts he still has eight strikeouts in those twenty at bats, but also seven walks. So he's doing better at working the count getting on base seeing how he can help himself a little bit I. Think Yelich starting to turn things on a little bit and get better. May Not. Be The lights out MVP season that we've seen out of him in the past, but it looks like he is making the climb to get back to at least where he should be. Moving forward. This the guy's got a pretty swing. He's fun to watch and I really do hope that it keeps getting better for him. The next guy may become back. Well, he is coming back I wrote his name down as I was preparing for this. And then you just forget that his numbers are getting there as well. Mr Mookie Betts. To seventy nine right now for the dodgers, he got off to a very slow start something that I find very interesting. He's only bat in one nine, five at home in La Right now doing a lot better on the road. In his last seven days. Six Games played sixteen at bats ahead. so He's around that to fifty as well a little below what his average is. Only two strikeouts. Guys going up there and he is working grinded. At least putting balls in play. This guy's incredible. I, I'm a Boston Red Sox fan in Wisconsin I know strange unique it's weird. So I've seen myself plenty of mookie Betts over the year. And it just it just makes me sad when I see that these highlights that are coming from him dodgers uniform whether it be home runs him gunning people from the outfield. This guy is just incredible. Does everything well, on a baseball field his season hopefully continues to keep rolling, I think he's a guy that is also on the up and up right now, which is awesome. So I mean the segment of comeback will they're coming back. So that's something that we want to be seeing out of these guys unfortunately though we do have one dodger teammate. That may not be coming back as quickly as we were hoping. In Cody bellinger coming off such a great season for the dodgers last year batting three, zero, five, forty, seven home runs. Well, right now, things are getting a little bit slower form these batting one, seventy, six on the air only two home runs did make a little bit of a change to swing this off season he was trying to fix things up a little bit. Trying to get going as the season goes on, you said batting seventy six well in his last seven days. In six games played twenty, four at bats, five hits. So he's just a little bit over that two hundred mark so. Batting average going up a tad from what he is right now but he just definitely isn't the MVP type player especially when his opie. Sitting at five twelve. Not a great number for him right now. We talk about how talented that dodger team is I mean, they have guys that are doing some great things for them. The season I mean mookie Betts is getting better. Cory seager is having a great year. Aj pollick is around three or four mark. They do have kind of a list of other guys that can pick it up a little bit Justin. Turner is that two fifty but Max Muncie is not having a great season either I could have put him on here to we'd like to see you turn it around a little bit but. Every night it seems like somebody else's stepping up just a little bit for that team and something I'm just curious about going forward is are we ever GonNa see Kevin Lux actually get called up because that was the guy that we were also supposed to be crazy excited about this season and man he he hasn't even seen the big yet so. That would be our number three guy cody bellinger. A little bit upward climb as well. Right now but just just not enough not enough. Our next baby come back that we want. In baseball well, the guy just signed a massive contract to go play on the west coast from the east. coast. Anthony ran don't. We need to see you come back man betting one, forty, three this season with two home runs six rb is to his name. This guy cashed in off a great season last year where he batted three nineteen with thirty four home runs and a hundred and twenty, six RBI's. Yeah he is just not been the solid player that we remember him being, and that's actually kind of funny because his last game was a good one we had three at bats two hits. One own Rania to walks to go with it as well. He looked strong in the game. That the angels just took from the. streaking Oakland A.'s. But in his last seven days. He's only got two hits and twenty two at bats. So both of those hits coming last night. Really struggling to get things going and cast. It just questions. The as are trying to put a good team together a good competitive team together when you look at the names on their Osceola, Ashley got some good starpower some good young players, some things there. They. Just can't get it. All Rolling can't get rolling. It's going to start with Rangoon turning things around in the season. So he's one of those guys that may not be trending necessarily in the right direction right now. But we need to see him come back. We just can't. It's not good baseball with oh to random. It's just not our next guy. We WanNA see come back. I WANNA see. Madison Bumgarner now we're not gonNA. See Him for a little stretch because he just went on the ten day I l some concerns with him? But he has been just a struggle. When it comes to the mound right now. Four Games started Owen three seventeen innings pitched she's got a nine point three five era given up eighteen earned runs in seventeen innings. The long ball being a problem for him as he is giving up seven home runs already this year. Strike Oh numbers. He's still around that seven per nine innings I. Mean Bumgarner was definitely. Falling off a little bit on stats as the seasons are going on because last year, he was only nine and nine with San Francisco six, seventy year before four nine obviously injuries playing a part in that. But as is three point nine last year to three point two, sixty year before three point three to. His last really great season. Was In two, thousand, sixteen, thirty, four, starts, fifteen, and nine. Two. Point seven four era. You just. You wonder if this is the end of the line here for Bumgarner view diamondback fan, you don't want to hear that because you just pay them on a contract but. It looks like it's Kinda ben that trajectory over the last few years and it could change because those giants teams weren't absolutely amazing. Last couple years. Wasn't. The same offense that diamondbacks should have this year to help him but. This start so far is a little bit of a big aches when it comes to Madison Bumgarner our next guy, we wanna see come back. Well he's only been in the League one year. But Pete Alonzo where'd you go my man? Where did you go? So far in the season, he's only bat in two, hundred, two home runs. This guy was the lager last year the twenty five year old seven, RBI's. These last seven days twenty three at bats six hits. Not. Awful I mean. Could be a little better. It's at two fifty range again. WanNa that up obviously a little bit. But if you're slugger that average is gonNA, come down the home runs usually come. He's only got one home run in his last six games as well. Trying to really get that pop back that he had last year when things were going so well for the NL rookie of the year, he did bat to sixty. So the average that. We saw from him last year he's working his way towards it at least in his last seven days. But can we see those home runs comeback? Those RBI's comeback. Lot of that also has to do with his team rest of his team getting on base that New York mets roster as a whole has been taking a big hit. But I WANNA see Pete Alonzo come alive again, even if it's some solo home runs. This I brought life to that mets team. You was an exciting exciting player and I find myself watching highlights checking in on rosters checking in on box scores and everything and I forget he's almost in a league I was questioning myself. This is he hurt is he not active right now? Is just no he's slumping right now for the mets so would love to see him come back a little bit. My number seven, well, I put a little bit of a trio here together. For good reason. The Tampa Bay rays were a team that I thought. was going to be flat out scary because of their starting pitching. Charlie Morton, who just went to the Aisle. Is. Owen one in four games started. With a five point four Yara. Not, what you want to see from one your studs tyler glass now three starts Owen. One. Five point five, six yard. This was supposed to be another one of your studs off to a slow struggling start. And then you have Blake Snell. Three games started only eight innings pitched. Three point three, eight Ya not bad but he's not giving you. The performance that you were hoping from Blake Snell. I I'm. Nervous about this team but at the same time. You think they can turn it around. You think they can get things going. because. that. Pitching starting pitching has the potential to be so scary. Recently talked to a friend about this. With the playoffs being opened up to a sixteen teams. What teams would you not want to see? In that opening round three-game series and yeah we obviously talked about contenders and stuff but we more wanted to say what were the teams that? More towards the bottom that could sneak in that, you wouldn't want to see well, even in the middle of the pack that Tampa Bay Rays Team Looking at that starting rotation. Blake Snell glass. Now, Charlie Morton if healthy and on their best. That's not a team you WANNA run into. I WANNA see these guys come back and make some noise in an American league. A lot of people thought it was going to be Astros Yankees. The Yankees aren't dominating as much as we thought, the Astros are really struggling the team to beat right now is the athletics and that twins team is strong with offense. How Fun would that be twins raise to start off if those pictures are rolling that's the type of stuff I wanNA see. WanNa see these. We want to see these pictures come back and. If they do that team will take off because. It's just a better constructed roster. then. You think the pitching is letting them down a little bit. Was, not expected, we get that turned around. We're GONNA be talking a lot more about Tampa. Bay. Staying in that, AL? East? A young promising player in Boston. Also, another guy just heading to the I l.. So injuries could be a big reason why he was struggling but Rafael, devers. Only. Batting one seventy five on the year two, home runs three R B is just surprising the slow start he's getting off to he's also struggling to hit well at home only one, fifty two in his last seven days to hits in Nineteen at bats and it just didn't see this coming from him after batting three eleven last year with thirty two, hundred, fifteen rb is. I mean he was starting to look like I am going to be an offensive talent like none other last year. Often, incredibly slow start for Boston sending him to the. Said I really wonder if they're just GONNA, take it slow with them. No reason to rush him back at all in season like this one that it's already sixty games and will be honest that Boston team isn't looking that great with pitching altogether, you don't see any big moves because their farm system as well. It's not like they're loaded with pitching or offense. That's GonNa come and fill some gaps. You might not see a lot of diverse this year at least climbing. I would bet that if that injury is more. Than they're letting on they're going to rest him quite a bit the rest of the year. Definitely a guy had keep my eye on. My. Little thoughts at least especially for fantasy baseball. Wise. If your whole non Rafael Devers. Be Prepared for a backup plan with him. My number nine. Bibi Comeback Player. I I miss. Just flashy. Awesome. Josh Donaldson. I miss him right now because his season. Obviously, very limited with only seven games played trying to get back to being full strength healthy. He was only bat and four eighty two on the year after having pretty alright one year stint with Atlanta where he had thirty seven home runs ninety four is while batting around that to sixty mark a nice little rebound. From Toronto and Cleveland Twenty Eighteen. He has the potential to push that offense to another level. And if we get two thousand nineteen. Josh Donaldson I. Mean I'm not even going to go out there and beg for. You know fifteen sixteen seventeen donaldson with the Blue Jays who was just absolutely amazing as well. If we get last year's Josh, Donaldson that twins team becomes very good offensively to try and complement some of the Ouray pitching they've had so far. Want to come back. So baby come back Josh Donaldson, we need to see you. And then the last one that I have. Is a guy who literally just came back, but he's not the same player yet. In Stephen Strasburg. Strasbourg had his first start of the season gets the Baltimore. Orioles. He got hit around a little bit. And by a little bit I mean. He really got pounded in that game. Four innings, five runs, seven heads, only two strikeouts. And I think this one just hurts me a little bit. I think it really just hurts me because of the fact that. I expected so much from what he was last season that ten point, three, eight era. It's obviously very bloated because it's only one start and it was a bad start. But he was just so good last year. Getting all thirty three starts going eighteen and six. Then going in that postseason being great the two, hundred, fifty strikeouts only fifty six walks. I want to see more of that Strasbourg. The healthy. Strasbourg. The number one overall pick Strasbourg the that was just great. Because that national team was so much stinking fun in the postseason because of their pitching. And US losing Sherzer Strasbourg not looking the same as just a one to Gut Punch. That I. was not ready for this year because even with losing Ren Dawn, they had the potential to be a fun team to watch. Now it's up to one. So to carry that team and continue to look great and exciting. And, I, guess you can give your little tip of Captain Patrick Corbin as well to hopefully pick up some of the pitching slack as he is to win on the year I mean he's he's look strong. For the team as well who is a big part in that world series run as well? So that's my ten guys baby come back some of them starting to turn things around a little bit not all but a yellow bets bellinger Rendong Bumgarner Lonzo, my Tampa Bay rays starters, Deva's Donaldson Strasbourg. Ten guys I just I just WANNA. See you get back to be in the players were. That's all I. Don't think I'm asking for too much. I really don't think I am. So that's GonNa be it for here on the GSM see baseball podcast. Thank you again for listening. It means so much. If, you could help us out leaving a great review comments anything. It really helps us out a lot here at the GMC podcast network pushing us in the right direction what you guys want to hear what you want to be having on the show. It means a great deal. Thank you once again for downloading listening I'm your host Colin Manley Hope, you have a great night. You've been listening to the Golden State media concepts, baseball podcast part of the golden state media concepts, podcast network. 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"Once upon a morning there was a freshly brewed Nick cafe coffee. It was made with one hundred percent arabica beans yet. Both something was missing. Fear not in the distance sausage mcmuffin with Ed stored. The sunrise in quest for breakfast. The perfect pyramid. Mcdonald's and mornings were happy forever. After. Right now. Get one dollar any size coffee in two dollars sausage mcmuffin with egg off the one two three dollar menu precipitation may vary. Cannot be combined with any other offer combo meal. Radio news. I'm Tim McGuire. College students and a veteran sheriff's deputy are among those killed when a gunman walked into a country bar in Thousand Oaks, California and opened fire last night. With a semiautomatic pistol Ventura County sheriff Jeff dean a horrific incident. It's part of the horrors that are happening in our country and everywhere, and I think it's impossible to put any logic or any sense to the senseless. The gunman has been identified as twenty eight year old, Ian, David law, a marine veteran who served in Afghanistan from two thousand ten to two thousand eleven he was honorably discharged in two thousand thirteen. Jason Kaufman says his twenty two year old son. Cody one of the twelve killed was about to join the military. He was on his way to fulfilling his dream of. Of serving the country, California. Governor elect Gavin Newsom says people have the right to own guns, but not at societies expense completely support the second amendment. I support people's right to bear arms. Always have absolutely unequivocally without hesitation, I believe that people have that fundamental, right? But I also think people have a right to, you know, not get a phone call to AM just praying that their daughter survived the mass shooting several of last night survivors, say they were also in Las Vegas when fifty eight people were massacred during a country music festival last year, close to thirty thousand people in paradise in northern California and told to evacuate as a fast moving wildfire. Roars into the town spokeswoman for adventisthealth. Feather river hospital says some of the patients evacuated from the facility had to go back because of traffic gridlock. She adds clinics and outbuildings caught fire or were damaged, but the main hospital has been untouched. A California fire official says the blaze which began this morning has destroyed an unknown number structures and civilians have been hurt as his AB radio. News White House, counselor Kellyanne Conway says the exit of attorney general Jeff Sessions is not a constitutional crisis. Matthew, Whitaker has been named acting. Attorney general Conway says rod Rosenstein remains as the deputy attorney general. For meeting is expected here for different meeting regular order of business today that shows the president has a continuing with the w train general and the chief of staff Catholic diocese at Jefferson City, Missouri releases the names of thirty three priests and religious brothers found through a sexual abuse investigation to be credibly accused or removed from ministry of the diocese fourteen and a thirty-three are dead. Many the others are elderly the Red Sox. Keep on winning an eighty four year old great grandfather used the jersey numbers of Red Sox players, Rafael Devers, Andrew Benintendi. Jackie Bradley, jR, Rick per cell and World Series MVP Steve Pearce to win one hundred thousand dollar lottery prize. I'm Tim Maguire radio news. One entertainment designed just for you, then checkout, customizable, streaming TV from finishing. It makes your life simple easy. Awesome. Expended? He gives you, customizable, streaming TV options. Enjoy the most free shows anywhere on any device and even access your streaming apps right on your TV with x one. Go to spin dot com. Call one eight hundred Finnity or visit a store today. To learn more restrictions apply.

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Inside the Parker - MLB Sign Stealing Fallout; Appropriate Astros Punishment; Alex Cora Had To Go; Fire Beltran Now

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

14:22 min | 1 year ago

Inside the Parker - MLB Sign Stealing Fallout; Appropriate Astros Punishment; Alex Cora Had To Go; Fire Beltran Now

"Durieux rocker is a podcast. Coming of age story about finding a home in rock music and learning to flourish in your own weird way. It's also a series of letters of vice to my younger self as she navigates the pressures of adolescent conceals with social anxiety body shoes relationships and discovers the transformative power. He's a theory and rocker comes to double. Elvis productions is created and hosted by me Chelsea Ersan Jason and executive produced by. Jake Brennan disgraced land. Listened to dear young rocker on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. BERKSHIRES BERKSHIRES to the sound from wherever you live in. Mlb America this. He's inside the Parker. You give us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop on Major League Baseball now. Here's baseball hall of fame Voter Number One. Oh three rob. Parker woke him into inside the park. Parker I'm your host Rob Parker and you know baseball news has been breaking all over the place. We only do a monthly podcast until the baseball season. Kicks back but we had had to do a special edition. podcast about all the cheating scandals and punishment so we'll dive into that all over baseball. Plus US Boston Globe Red Sox beat writer Julian McWilliams will stop by. He'll give some insight to the Alice core firing in Boston Austin that much more. Let's go to lead off. It's getting rough and keep them up rob's hot take on the three biggest stories stories in major league baseball number one. Stop the noise about Major League Baseball. Going Soft Major League Baseball did what it had to do. Bravo to commissioner Rob Medford because it ain't an easy thing to the deal with a cheating scandal we've seen the. NFL goes off on the Patriots A couple of times including when Bill Belichick got caught. He wasn't even suspended. There was just a fine nine so people were saying that baseball kind of took it easy on the Astros. I'm not buying into that at all. I think they did what they had to do. which was to suspend the general manager and the manager who basically let you know what was going on go on without doing anything to stop it and then the astros followed up on those one year suspensions and then said you know both of these guys including the manager? Aj hinch is out there fired and they heard them in the draft next year and the year after they're gonNA lose a number of top draft picks that hurts and organization so people people who are Poo pooing draft picks. Not Kid Yourself. And there's a five million dollar fine I get it. There's a lot of money involved and as far as taking it easy easy on the owner. I I just don't know what baseball you gotta remember it. Stay game these these owners how much he really knew about what was going on. And what could you do did you. You want to take the team away from him and the notion of taking the championship away from the Astros. I've never been in favor of that. Kinda kind of stuff. I get what people want. They want him to vacate it. And I give it to the dodgers but just say nobody won that year. Here's the only problem if for knowing what pitch is coming is so good and it helped him win the world series for sure how come they lost games come. They didn't win every game during the regular season. If they knew what pitches that were coming. So it ain't that easy you know what I mean. I mean it's definitely a benefit. It's definitely cheating. They need to be punished. But I'm not into taking away way championships. I think the commissioner got it right number two. I'M NOT GONNA sit here and celebrate the Boston. Red Sox for firing being Alex Cora the manager even before the report comes down for Major League baseball into the cheating investigation with the red sox. I just think that they were just doing the most obvious thing. You cut ties you try to make the blow softer. Because they already know that Alex Cora core was a connected with the Astros fiasco and cheating scandal so they don't really need to get the Boston side. They already know their manager was involved. He according to the report so basically the ringleader and the brains behind it so it is no surprise to me that Boston did did what it did. And you know Alex Cora could wind up getting banned by Major League Baseball for being involved in to cheating scandals with two different teams and it is just so crazy obviously. The Astros won the world series. One year then he goes to Boston. They put up a hundred and eight wins. A franchise franchise record have their best season ever in baseball and win a championship. So when you look at these two things. Alex Cora Looked like he was told told the involved in is going to pay a heavy heavy price. I can't imagine him not being banned and I can't imagine him getting another job as a manager manager. Baseball number three. The New York mets should fire Carlos. Beltran he was a fan favorite. I know they just hired heard him and he has managed to gain for the mets. Sorry he's connected with this cheating scandal in Houston and he was a player player and not a management person but now to have a guy who was that involved apparently according to the reports in this cheating scandal in Houston and now he's supposed to be the face of your organization. It just doesn't feel right. It really doesn't if I'm the New York mets and given what's happened the hinch and what's happened to Cora. I just think that it's just natural to want to have a manager not tied up in some sort of cheating scandal. One of the biggest cheating scandals in the history of baseball and your manager is going to be a distraction. Who's going to be more stuff coming out questions about it? Will that be all all they talk about a spring training. Rather than the mets themselves I think the metric. Think about this long and hard get in front of it. Talk about what your organization Tation is supposed to be about about doing it. The right way about playing fair and being honest I don't know how calls Beltran could be the manager of the Metropolitans politicians and people not look sideways at the mets for not doing what the Astros do did for not doing what the Red Sox did. I'm sorry calls. Beltran has to go. We are living in complicated times. I'm seventy rule. MSNBC ANCHOR NBC News Correspondent and in my new podcast cast modern rules. I'm going to be spending time unpacking some of the hairiest of today's top. I decided I was going to be a survivor. Survivor fights back he will board. They want new. It's America listen and subscribe to my new podcast. Modern rules on Apple. podcast the iheartradio APP. Or wherever you get your podcast. When was the newspaper columnist he lived by this motto? If I'm writing I'm rippin and let's bring in a writer of broadcaster older new. Let's welcome to the PODCAST. One of my favorite people one of the big bright baseball is ball writing stars out there in the Business Julia McWilliams from the Boston Globe. He covers the red sox. Julian welcome to the PODCAST. We'll cut rob thank you man. Thank you know here man. I know it's crazy in Boston. Please tell me what what was it. We action in Boston. I when the Red Sox decided to to part ways I know that try to say it nice but basically they fired Alex Cora. Yeah basically I mean nobody wants to say that and you know you like obviously read you read the in between the lines. They had to get rid of them Surprisingly like the fans knew like they had to get rid of him right like the fans warning against getting unread of they were particularly on board for getting rid of them. But it's just. It's just sad that you could tell that the The organization itself was was With sad because like realistically core really didn't even need all that stuff. All teammates everything always already raved about how much of a great signed so that he was just with his is. Hi and how much of a baseball Vanni was. And all this stuff so The organization no they lost that they lost the big guy. I mean look he he. He's responsible for Dannebrog ours. Oh come on what he is Rafael. Devers become what is Mookie Betts took the next up and became. MVP under him so it's a huge void that they're going to have to fill in the red sox no that for Short Julian. The problem I have with the statement that was released with Cora was that he didn't apologize for wrongdoing. And that state right. How in the world could put out a statement for you? Don't apologize for. Hey I'm sorry for my actions. I'm sorry I hurt the organization. The ball club the franchise the fans of Boston. It's none of that. Why not you know what I now that you point that out? That's actually interesting. They said today that he was remorseful. He apologized for embarrassing the franchise franchise but I get it. You have to make that public statements Julian. How can you look at twenty eighteen and talk about all the good stuff that happened? Franchise record hundred hundred and eight wins all these players blossom and not feel like it was fraudulent or maybe helped or aided by the cheating scandal. How can you feel good? What about the two thousand eighteen? Well they they told today they said. Today they kept saying Please fans Keep your judgement until the actual investigations. Engaging comes comes out you know they were they were they were kind of implying. They didn't say it but they felt like they were implying that you know this investigation for them won't go. Oh through but then John Henry made a John. Henry made a made an interesting comment where he said you know. We were surprised by what they found in the Houston thing so we have to wait and see what comes out of this. But you don't say when they were asked if they felt his tainted they said no absolutely not like we won that fair and square so they might not they might know something and that we don't know but judging from cores pass. I wouldn't be surprised by anything at this point. Yeah and the other thing is what do you expect. The punishment will be for nor speculation with the Red Sox but he did it for two franchises and tainted two of them. I think there's a chance that he could be been a lifetime. Tom Ban as far as managing. You'd think that's too harsh. If they do found find out that he did it Bolton Houston and in Boston. I think that'll be A harsh but I wouldn't be surprised at this point. 'cause you for if you remember. They had the apple. Watch incident The Red Sox and and the commissioner said came mountain said gave them a slap on the wrist and said knock it all. Don't do it again. And then you have the Houston situation where Houston sheets for a year. And that's that was kind of spearheaded head about cholera. And then now you have this other allegation so clearly. He slapped a commissioner in the face twice right. And I'm GonNa do what I want to do. So the commissioner came down heavy. It'd be on these guys. I wouldn't be surprised if it might be lifetime ban. You never know I mean impacted two world series teams right if you think about it like in the dodgers. It would be one thing if he did it with the mets and the mets didn't make the playoffs. No team won back to back world series off of this now if it has to do with if if they have to you do them possibly a giving him a lifetime ban. I wouldn't be surprised last thing. I said early on the podcast that I believe believe that the mets should fire Carlos Beltran even though he didn't get any kind of punishment from Major League Baseball. But don't you think think it's kind of weird that a team would put a guy out front and center. who was involved in a pretty serious cheating scandal right and I think the fact that he was a player and they they said all the players are granted immunity? I think that would be one thing that he can hold up. Someone saying look out the player at the time but it comes down to trust right and I think going back to November when he was asked about the allegations that came out he lied about it right he lied about it. And that's that's that's the that's the issue that I have if he came out and said look. I can't comment on missed or or I can't I can't talk about this while the investigations going on. That's one one thing but he blatantly came out alive and if your culture where you're trying to change the culture around around the mets organization we all know the culture around the methods that you you have to fire this guy because I mean it it it comes down to trust issue and you know you just can't trust them one hundred percent his name Julia McWilliams News. The five baseball B writer for the Boston Globe covers the red sox. Julian always a pleasure. Thanks for joining the PODCAST. Bro- hey thanks. I appreciate her up in the words of New York TV legend. The Lay Bill Jorgensen thanking you for your time this time until next time Rob Parker out. He can't get. This could be an insect parker next weekend. Same Bat time. Tape vaccination in the hang any. PODCASTS is out now on my show. You'll find honest. Gov Talk with powerful opinions the best instruction and captivating interviews. I've coached for over forty three years and worked with the best of the best on the BJ door. 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Ep. 29 - The Red Sox chose whiteness over everything else

The Breakdown with Shaun King

14:21 min | 2 years ago

Ep. 29 - The Red Sox chose whiteness over everything else

"Uh-huh. Everybody as you may know the Boston Red Sox won the World Series last year. And because sports are so huge in this country. When teams win national titles. Typically, visit the White House to celebrate with the president. But since Trump has been elected many teams and players quietly bowed out yesterday gnawing the concerns of their players and staff of color every single white player in coach and executive went to the White House. Anyway, it was despicable. I think the whole mess was really a metaphor for America. Let's dig in this is Shaun king. You are listening to the the breakdown. The the breakdown. Breakdown. You're going to hear me say this a lot on the breakdown. But it's genuinely heart understand moment in history. When you're in it, I have a book that comes out early next year. I break this down in great detail. But let me tell you what I mean by this life itself when you're living it, it just feels normal it feels mundane. But right now in this very moment that you're listening to me some things are happening that are deeply historic. You know as a kid I used to wonder how in the world nations sat and watched as millions of Jewish men. Women boys and girls were ripped from their homes and take into camps. We'll guess what right now in this very moment. China has taken over one and a half million Muslims from their homes and communities they've bulldoze their mosque and put them in camps and prisons. Google it. It's happening right now before our vary is as a kid in the eighties. I used to wonder how in the world we could allow children in Ethiopia to literally starve to death as a little boy. I would see these images and videos, and I felt so helpless, and I was heartbroken that any person of means would see that in do nothing. But right now in this moment kids are starving to death all over Yemen in most of us are watching and doing nothing at all. Because when you're in a historic moment. It doesn't always feel so historic and yesterday. The Boston Red Sox had a historic moment to do the right thing. They had a moment to be remembered in history the right way in what we saw is that some players coaches and staff all of them a hundred percent of them black Latino immigrants. They took a stand, but every single white player in staff member of the Boston Red Sox refused. Let me be more specific Alex Cora who is the award winning manager of the Boston Red Sox is also an immigrant from Puerto Rico. And he has not only watched Trump lie in lie over and over again. Literally Trump lied about Puerto Rico just yesterday outscore has watched Trump do this over and over again and core has. Puerto Rico crumble under the weight of a natural disaster. When United States should have been there in a more substantive way to help the country pick up the pieces over and over. Again, Trump has demeaned Puerto Rico in its people. So when Cora said that he couldn't in good conscious. Visit the White House after all the Trump is said and done to insult in abandon his people. It made sense not a single person heard that and said, let's see talking about into me that right there when your manager your award winning manager coming off of a World Series win decides that going to visit the White House would be personally degrading for him. That's the point that the Red Sox as an organization should have said, you know, what when I going this year if it offends. Our manager it offends our organization. But then Mookie Betts a young black man who is the single best player on the team said he simply could not lower himself to go. Visit Trump at the White House. Now, let me tell you. How important Mookie Betts is to the team in twenty eight teen Mookie Betts became the first player in major league history in the entire history of major league baseball in one season to win the MVP that's of all of baseball the most valuable player in all the baseball, the silver slugger award, which is the best hitter at his position the gold glove award, which means he was the best defensive player his position he won the batting title, which is a very prestigious award. Meaning he had the highest batting average of any player in the American League. And he won the World Series all in the same season in. Oh player in the history of baseball has ever worn all of those things at once. Last year. Mookie Betts had one of the single best seasons of any player in baseball history in he felt that he would be an insult to himself to his people and also to his manager Alex Cora and others if he showed up at the White House, so he bowed out and that alone should have been enough when your manager and your star player the MVP of baseball say that going to visit Trump would be an insult to their people. You should look at that. And you say know. You know that we shouldn't go if it offends our star it offends our manager. We should bow out then David price. Another important veteran black player from the team who is one of their star pitchers. He opted out and said, he just couldn't go. He couldn't do it. The team star catcher and amazingly popular player Christian Vasquez. Who has also from Puerto Rico said he refused to go. And he made it clear that it was just deeply personal for him. And it was. And so did exander Bogart's in and sandy Leone and Edwato Nunez and Hector Velazquez in Jackie, Bradley, jR, Rafael Devers, with their manager their MVP their catcher one of their star pitchers and a host of other black and Latino players all battling out not a single white player or manager on the team felt moved to join them not one nobody. I'm not even talking about the team saying, you know, what we're not going as a team, but not a single white player manager coach executive. None of them said I'm bowing out as well. And when other teams were faced with something like this like the Philadelphia Eagles where every black player plan to skip most of the white players plan to go, but Trump cancelled the trip because he didn't want to be humiliated. After the university of Virginia just won the NCWA men's basketball championship a few months ago. They opted not to go the Golden State Warriors of the NBA opted out when they won the NBA title, but split almost exclusively down racial lines. The Red Sox went anyway. And I think it's a huge metaphor for the state of our country right now into illustrate this metaphor in the point that I wanna make to you. I wanna play a clip from spike Lee's classic movie. Do the right thing in it. Spike, Lee's main character who ironically, also is named Mookie Mookie confronts and talion character in the film named Pino played by John Turturro a masterful role that he's in Mookie confronts Pino for being racist. Mookie works for this pizzeria. That Pino's father owns and Mookie confronts Pino for being racist. And Mckee has even her Pino called black piece. Niggers while also witnessing Pino, love, black culture. Let me play the scene for you. Magic Johnson's your favorite movies. Favor rocks. Prince your prince, Bruce. Rose oil talk about his negative negative fear. People are so called Negus different magic any prints and they use. I mean, they're not black. I mean. Explain myself, really black. The black really the mortar black. It's different. It's different to me. To me, the white owners the white managers the white players from the Red Sox. They are just like Pino. They love their black and Latino stars and managers on the field on the field. They cheer for them. They high five them. They celebrate with them. But off the field. It's a different story altogether. Sometimes we like to say it like this. A lot of white people love black culture, but not black people. The same is true of Latin culture, but not Latin people and after the VIN yesterday, the white owners and executives blinded by their own white privilege got on the microphone at a press conference and said that for them the moment, it really wasn't political. But it's a mighty white thing to be able to stand and smile and celebrate with Donald Trump and say that for you the moment is completely devoid of politics. What they really mean by that is that Donald Trump doesn't offend them. In that sense. He doesn't offend them. They can stand with him joke with him high five and laugh and smile and take pictures with him in that his racism, his misogyny, his bigotry his lies. They just don't occur to white men in the moment. But the black and Latino players and staff just couldn't see it like that. And of course, they couldn't. And it's a shame that when they had a simple moment to stand with the men on their team, the men that felt deeply offended personally offended by Trump that the white men chose their whiteness over everything else. And to me, that's what Trump means. It's what the brilliant writer in SAS Tonny, see coats meant in his brilliant piece where he called Trump the first white president Google that when you get a chance tiny, he's coats the first white president. Now, of course, when I first saw that title the article the first white president. I thought we have forty three other white presidents, but coats, brilliantly illustrated that Trump was the first president, elected mainly. Because he was a white man on the philosophy of whiteness in white power in the Red Sox had a moment to get it right yesterday. But they failed and the executives of the team that said everything is fine. Now, they literally said this everything is fine. This won't divide the clubhouse this won't divide. The Red Sox revealed that what bay don't know is that yesterday proved that the team was already divided. But at the white players and executives and owners, either don't see just don't care to acknowledge it. 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You Will Get Burned

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

46:41 min | 9 months ago

You Will Get Burned

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. The baseball tonight podcast for Monday August third two thousand and twenty producing rummage. Home Studio in the foothills. Connecticut is Taylor shrank right Taylor. You've been on vacation for a few days. You went down to Delaware I'm here I've returned we got back on Saturday it was nice to have a couple of days off I was totally in my element I'm a big beach guy. So Wednesday when I didn't have to work I spent five hours on the beach by myself under an umbrella just crank and through my audio book and just Chilin really really lovely time good to be back and I'll be off tomorrow as well so. How about that but I'll be off next week's I'm not GonNa Complain About that I'm buster working for my home studio. In New, York, we got a lot to get to today we'll be talking with call ravitch and was Sarah Lang's the cardinals have more positive tests from Sunday after having four positive tests on Saturday. We're expecting to get information more specifically about the cardinals test on Monday and we'll see how that affects baseball trajectory is it moves forward Red Sox pitcher and Water Rodriguez. Will miss the rest of the season. The Red Sox made the announcement on Saturday. Rodriguez has been diagnosed with myocarditis inflammation of the heart that the team believes is a result of the left-handers recent bout with the coronavirus he tested positive cove nineteen before the start of the summer camp, the reds put first Baseman Joey votto on the injured list after the. First Baseman reportedly reported symptoms that may be related corona virus. They're just going to wait and see on that the brewers Lorenzo Cain his opted out of the season that announcement came on Saturday the mets outfielder you nss this in a crazy situation on Sunday opted out of the season. There was a time on Sunday where the mets weren't sure where. Was and then they ascertain that he just left the team without telling anybody and what his agents saying is that he opted out because it Kobe nineteen. The New York Post is has a lot of details about CESSPIT is being upset with his playing time and the possibility that he might not reach some financial incentives in his deal. Here's Brody Bandwagon mets general manager talking about the suspect is decision. Well, first off, know we support everybody's in every player's right to to make the second decision and know this is a challenging time for everyone. In so we will. We will support him in that decision. It was surprising without without question and it's The same point we we have to go forward and we have to do not allow anything to keep us from from going forward, attempting to win every game and distractions from it but again, a key takeaway from at this point or that. gladis okay. Is Very time where we weren't sure glad that certainly will support him in respects. This decision is he is he goes for Ferretti Bandwagon. It is an interesting place with the situation because he was the one who assessment is his agent negotiated the four year, one, hundred and ten, million dollar deal with the mets. So when he was asked how he looks back on his contract yet an interesting answer. It's disappointment for for the fans from my vantage point your prior to coming to this to this job than in incense. Player the I think everyone enjoyed watching play when he was in his best, there was optimism for for his return I know how hard he works in his in his Rehab to get back to this point and I know this is This is a disappointing disappointing end to at least his is for your agreement with with the mets but of It I. Know It wasn't for like a work ethic on this part straight back the phillies planned resume games today after no new positive tests, we also got word that the Miami Marlins have not had a new positive tests among their players. The last two days might trout who left the angels to be back in New Jersey for the birth of his first child with his wife Jessica is set to rejoin the angels later today the Commissioner Rob Manfred spoke with our car ravitch over the weekend about the situation in baseball this after Jeff Passan's report on Friday that Manfred had told Tony. Clark. The head of the players association that the handling of the health and safety protocols needed to get better the quote from to call ravage, we are playing the players need to be better, but I am not a quitter in general and there no reason to quit. Now we have had to be fluid, but it is manageable. The Angel Shohei Ohtani had to undergo an MRI yesterday after feeling discomfort in his throwing arm, he ecorse is coming back from Tommy John Surgery allow just any in two thirds yesterday throwing fifty pitches cups in the pirates played in heavier by has got it done. Pitch on its way. And a line shut up the middle of the cubs winning. By rips a single to center. Scoring cody and the suite, the series two one final as Baya's. Rips, a single to center field that was in the bottom of the eleventh inning that on Sports Radio Ninety three, point seven, the fan, the dodgers and diamondbacks and Mookie Betts got done. Now the to one, the Betts GonNa. Fly Ball to right field and deep and gone into the pool. Paul. Shot. mookie Betts Homerun his second of the year the dodgers take a three to nothing lead. Charley Steiner am five seventy sports. Now, bets did to come out of the game because of an issue with a finger on his left hand, the Yankees and red sox run Sunday baseball. BOOT SHAMI ON ESPN radio had this game and he called Zander Bogart's Homerun in the top of the first next offer just popped in the air that's deep to right field judge going back if track the wall and it's gone, it just gets over that auxiliary scoreboard enwright Sander Bogart's would a two run homer and the Red Sox for the first time this year score in the first inning and they jump out to a to nothing lead. The hottest player in baseball. Aaron judge went into. Sunday having homered in four consecutive games. He came to the plate in the bottom of the second through two. Now here comes swing a ball hammered left field that one back there. It's fair. It's gone and that one is gone Aaron. Judge has done. It again rips on down the line and out these homered in his fifth straight game and the Yankees continue to generate the offense via the long ball. It's three to new. York. Last. Yankee players to do that. Alex Rodriguez in two thousand seven Rafael Devers. Came to the blade and the top of the seven score tied six. All the two one is hitting the air right field way back at forget it way into the bleachers ain't gone. Rafael Devers is untited. And for the third basement of Solo blast in here in the seventh, the Red Sox on top by the count of seven to six. Four hundred and twenty seven feet. But, we know this about the two thousand twenty Boston. Red Sox they're pitching is a mess in that manifested in the bottom of the eighth. And that fall is hit hard and pass the lunging Peraza out into center field around it into score is talk men and we're starting over it's tied at seven. As DJ. Lemay. A. Single. The middle, the stolen base pays dividends and it's a seven seven game. Next to the plate Aaron. Judge. The to. Swang a high fly ball well-struck left field that one back there, and you can forget it over the bullpen and for judge his second of the night, and this one gives the Yankees the lead in the eight Aaron judge has done it again, his sixth of the year and the Yankees on top nine seven as he deposited that one over the bullpen in left center. So is that Yankee Stadium last night and have a funny story about that home run that'll be talking about with Colorado coming up before that. Find value others overlook just like Billy beane did for the Oakland Athletics World Series winning talent is often found where you least expect it like our pools who the cardinals drafted in the thirteenth round. No one expects you to draft monkey bats in the sixth round of fantasy, and that's why you're the champion of your friend grew. Don't be swayed by too much tire or come up short by buying two little cooper's are just right. 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Mary Nice and their issues about other postponements in concerns marlins, cardinals Kobe in. We'll get to that and second. You had a conversation with the commissioner over the weekend but I. I wanted to tell you last night. You know I had the privilege I had such a good time being Yankee stadium being in a ballpark and not only that but they gave me a choice of whether or not I. You know to be in the visitor radio booth behind home plate or in center field, and besides the fact that it was unbelievably hot yesterday afternoon, it was so much fun to be watching the game from that vantage point. But I gotTa tell you I could have had a Chris. Chambliss Howard cosell moment. This is, of course, the home run that ended the nineteen seventy-six Ale pennant race keep Jackson was doing play by play sort of until until cosell took over given listen. How Chris Chambliss has won. Well The New York. All Of that great. Six CAIN World Series Seven game to. The American league season. Two. Sitting team look at the Chris Chambliss. He's in Pat what a series he has had. So last night Carl. Judge on them, what happened to your aunt? I could've that's what I was GonNa Tell You Mitt Yankee Stadium last night. It's empty. Those guys Matt Excursion Alex Rodriguez or at the desk back in Bristol and I could tell what was happening way before those guys could because. In the empty ballpark with no sound from anybody at the moment that you know whether is Rafael Devers last night or Aaron Judge would swing their bat and the ball would rock it off the first thing. You here are the shouts of their teammates the dugout it's like crack yeah. See the trajectory, the ball, and and so matt was like and there's a long and I'm like that thing is gone. Like. You could see it's. How far was going to go four, hundred, seventy feet that sort of thing. So I I feel like I should get extra credit last night for jumping in and doing a Howard cosell. Appropriate and doing. So he did occur to me last night you were an I almost asked you on the show. What is it actually like to be in the ballpark because we've done that with a few folks in Korea and Marley here it is such a unique experience for you and then to watch from your perspective, I, mean, I got to believe that the relaxed judge homer landed in a place that you've from where you were sitting. You've never been able to appreciate just how far that is. One hundred percent and and and all of that underscored by the reactions of the other players like to hear the dugouts, each dugouts -rupt when their guy was hitting a long run because Denver's run was a monster to The Yankee dugout react when judge hit that home run was so funny here's the other thing too. I think you'd agree with me we've seen show many mistakes in these games like is of issues and sitting behind. Last night Aaron Hicks, and Jackie Bradley. Jr. Watching the outfielders Oh my God a does remind you when you're watching your kids play. T-ball like picking daisies out in the outfield because there's nothing around them it's so dead. I think I think it really goes a long way explaining why we've seen so many mistakes we saw some last night from Aaron. Hicks is a good outfielder. I think yeah I think Alex brought it up the idea that when you go into and he obviously was stadium and played their idea that you have forty thousand people kinda always reminding you of the situation and your intensity level is up because of the noise there you you can't fall back on that. You don't rely on that anymore so I? Do. Think that I think we see it a lot with pitchers bullpens in particular guys aren't throwing strikes or at least on the field to be throwing strikes as often as they did in the past and again, I don't know if that's crowd related or making excuses for them but with regards to the place, the judge at the homer and the reaction. Look. What we've been doing this for twenty five years calling games and whether it's a pitcher on the mound or the guys on the bench they have such a great ability to distinguish between all. That is absolutely a home run and ones that aren't. And full disclosure I still struggle with it. You know you're constantly like is that did he and they know because that's founder so familiar with it. So yeah, I. Can absolutely appreciate when the ball hit the bat, it's a different sound and then immediately the reaction of the French let's you know that's gone we don't even need to discuss it. I, it was. It was a fun listen. It was like being back in in covering a high school game except these are the best players in the world in Aaron Judge Right. Now might be the best that he's been in years. All indicate he sent me a note this morning about the number of home runs and he's pulled to left field in two, thousand, eight, he had nine, one hundred and twelve games last year at six in one hundred and two games. This year Carl? He's got five pulled home runs in eight Games which tells you where he is right now. Well, you know anytime that you follow a sport, cover it whether it be baseball college basketball football, and you see a player who you know is capable of things it'd because of injury their abilities are diminished. Again part of that's a testament to how great these guys are when they do play and you know they're not one hundred percent and it's still perform and yet when they are at their maximum ability, you do get a chance to be reminded just how great this guy is and I I was left to think too when you watch judge last night and you think long term contracts for somebody like that and and whether it's judge or Soto, it doesn't really matter as long as they're young guys you know what the potential and possibilities are and you also realize the. Sort of vagueries over human body. especially one that's is especially one required to do so much that when you watch that, you're like, oh my gosh, like just give him a billion dollars and let him be the cornerstone for the next eight years, and then in the next breath you're like I can't do that like I I don't know what to do here. because. He used that he is that transformational the player I mean even in the studio with the share-out watching him warm up because we have all those shots during baseball tonight he is just so abnormally strong and large relative to baseball like he's different he's an outlier and you're seeing when he's right and when he's physically one hundred percent or close to it. What that potential is amazing to watch. And they love the work that aircraft see who took over ask this guy during the wintertime has done not only with Giancarlo, stanton but with Aaron Judge and these guys are on the field and man, they're doing damage. Let's do some buyer sell about some topics here Shohei Ohtani yesterday inning in thirds control problems. Again, five walks fifty pitches nap to the game. He told the angels that it's comfort in his right elbow get an MRI Look he's coming back from Tommy. John Surgery is you know it's not unusual for a pitchers to have some discomfort in their elbow they break scar tissue that sort of thing and maybe That's what that is. The man he has really struggled with his command since they got back to the summer camp in the Inter Squad Games and the exhibition games in the starts that he's had, and we always come back to this thing about you know, is it time for him to just become a full time position? Are you buying or selling the idea that that's what the angels need to do? Tournament a position player I'm selling I don't think they should do that yet and I I understand why a lot of people would I think there's great value in having. NBA. Position Player and a hitter because such a unique bat I think he's uniquely talented as a Pitcher to and I'm all of the push mind when it comes to athletes and being able to be pitcher and a hitter I I do think that there are efforts to have started on Sundays at the position player three or four other days of the week is is another example of how these things progress and there's now a another process with Otani, and maybe it's GonNa be pitch every ten days. For teams that are considering things like this last night you know he he he had tried to and was real close to getting out of that inning with no runs coming in he. He had a strike within the Kaysone and it wasn't even close. It was was strike three umpire called ball four next battery walks and he was out of that inning instead issued a walk then should another one and madden had come out so look I'm not suggesting that he's near close to what he can be, but I think he's uniquely talented. I think when he is right that ability to pitch and hit shoe should not be quelled it shouldn't be. His into you know old traditional norms and and maybe that's just my philosophy a lot of baseball things but it it is with regards to these individuals. If I had a son that could do both I would hate to because of were coming off. Tommy John and we've had to bad outings and if you WANNA really micro scope it role he got squeezed on a pitch you could have been out of that inning without anything being given up I'm not giving up on Otani. Chicago cubs off to a great start seven and two you buying or selling the cubs. I'm buying I. Think they were a big disappointment last year I think that there is some infusion I. Think we've seen this before when you have a new manager whether you're all familiar with them, you've never heard of them I do think there's the ability to have a balance I also think that sometimes the new manager doesn't make a bit of difference in the end it has to do with the players playing to their abilities and I think we're seeing that you know with the cubs we're seeing it with. Their defense. We're seeing the offense whether it's contraire us or Rizzo you. You know what they're capable of I. Think the lineup where Schwab receding Yeah. I I think that they realize and I'm sure Ross is message beginning was we saw last year we're way better than this. Let's just play to what we are capable of playing to and we should be okay. So I'm buying CUBS MINNESOTA twins seven into buyers selling the idea that this is just merely an extension of that excellent season they at last year. I think it's an extension still a little worried about a bullpen. I. Do think their starting pitching his better I think the boobs they made or good Donaldson I don't even think played yesterday and they still put up runs and I think we're kind of seeing that the white Sox as great and as fun as then they may be the most fun team to watch aren't yet ready and I think that helps the Indians helps the twins I do think the Indians are are pitching of their mind. So I, do think that this is an extension I'm buying the twins. The New York mets, are you buying the idea that they are terrible? Well. Yes. They are You know I do think. So there are a bunch of superstar hitters like Yelich. Bellinger homered yesterday but struggling Pete Alonzo struggling like like like last year didn't even happen look I think eventually they'll hit I think a lot of this stuff has to do with the fits and starts of the training camp the expectations on a lot. Of, these guys are great. You have sixty games. So it's slow starts magnified but look the mets bullpen is a disaster They're just not. They don't appear to be a very good team and they are in division where you dig a Hole I think it's a lot harder to get out of that hole. I know what the schedule moving forward is for the mets. And you had a superstar player basically bail on the organization yesterday. So yeah, I buy that they are a mess in a disaster right now. Yeah, and I gotta say I feel like I underrated the braves even though I picked him to win the division the last couple years but just being around them in spring training for a couple of days there was a lot of competence there and they are playing so well despite the fact Ronald Kuni. Junior hasn't gotten off to a good start so that you know reestablishing itself at the top of the division you made reference to the to the fact A. Assessment is yesterday. Man, it was striking that even longtime mets writers who are used to mets dysfunction. We're saying it was an unusually dysfunctional day for the mets and the way that that played out. So bizarre bus are I mean it shows a complete lack of respect for your organization for your management for your teammates Look this is a this is the time where you actually could say to your manager, your teammates certainly management. look I've had all these surgeries whatever it may be I'm not comfortable playing in the cold war-era regardless of the numbers you're putting up regardless of your opinion of the team you were actually given a you know a green slip to cash in a not for me this year and I don't think anybody you know they would have been some people who were like really he's quitting on the team but I again, personally I'm not judging somebody who decides that this season or health risks is not for me and yet you didn't you didn't take door number one which was available to you. You went and found. Three, which was I'm not gonNA call anybody I'm just GONNA bail packing up and I'm leaving. But that I don't I don't even understand it and I asked Marta share in the studio like what if you were an owner of a team? Do next year if cesspit has said, he wants to play and he said minimum minimum contract with a whole bunch of incentive. To me you, WANNA be a part of this. I totally agree that I it was confusing to me because in the way that he handled this and look, we have not heard from Cesspool directly. You know his representative saying that it was because Kobe. York. Post all kinds of reporting today that he was upset about the fact that he wasn't going to be in the lineup and may may not maybe couldn't reach some of the financial incentives that are in his contract. But this is someone who over the course of this four year, a hundred and ten million dollar deal, and he's not going to get all one hundred ten because of his injury with the wild. And the Kobe. But over the course of those four years one, hundred, twenty seven, Games Twenty Eight homers, Seventy Five Rbi, and this is the very least was a month and a half. Two months to reestablish your credentials before you go on the market. Look you would think but again, part of me is aware that I think some agents recognized that owners can't control themselves and you know what? My guys one of the great power hitters. In baseball in recent years we'RE GONNA. I don't want him to do this but this is his choice I think we'll still find a job down the road. So I'm I'm not gonNA worry about it because it's not like Some team isn't going to be willing to take a flyer on him and he want to do it. He you know for whatever reason I don't know if it was uh incentives in his contract. He wasn't feeling good about himself. He wasn't feeling good about the way that. Ross was managing. He didn't like the way Jeff McDougal was feeling who the hell knows but that was just odd way to bail on a team at time where the door is open for all sorts of communication and acceptance of the decision, and he chose to to move the other way from that I I don't get that. All right did you and I talked early Monday morning we're awaiting the word on how many positive tests the Saint Louis Cardinals having their most recent wave of testing Over the weekend he talked with raw Manfred, the baseball commissioner, his response to you certainly got a lot of play all around the sport How would you describe where we are in whether or not? We continue the two thousand and twenty season moving forward. Well look I I think one of the one of the responses that I saw often to his his comment and it literally was was quoted directly and that was the extent of what he wanted to say on the subject You know the response of it's always about the players. It's always about the players wise it only on the players and it's not on. Blah. Blah Blah right now it is on the players and the organizations there really is there is no other way I think to look at it if you adhere to the protocols, all of them. You will have in my opinion this is not his opinion my opinion minimize the risk I I think you look at your own family and you recognize if you walk into a store or if you decide to go to a restaurant, you are increasing the risk of getting sick to me these players and these organizations have put themselves in positions to succeed the bubble quality of life that they live as bad as it may be in their opinion or as good as it may be in the opinion of many hotel five star rating great food you're taking to, and from your tested all the time you have if you adhere to those. For six days or however long be postseason goes. You have really minimize the chance of getting getting the virus and subsequently spreading it, and if you don't, and again there are rumors about behaviors on different teams, which certainly would lead you to be like, why are you doing? Why would you even open that box up? Why are you subjecting yourself to a restaurant to a bar to whatever it may be when you know when you literally no, you stick your foot. If you stick your finger next to that fire on the stove, it's GONNA burn. Yeah. But I bet it's not gonNA burn me so bad. So I'm going to try it like. Is Zero tolerance for not abiding by the protocols and it is it is one of these situations where if you don't abide by them. Going to get burned like there is no grey, you're GonNa get burned and I understand the the strain on the patience of individuals and how much it may suck relative to what you're used to. But if you want to continue to play, there is only one way to do it. You know there's there's no gray area here it's black and white, and it's as simple as that and I think he's frustrated in some of the behaviors indicate you're living in the gray you don't really WanNa. You don't really want to abide by the protocols hundred percent. Along those lines and Carl do you think you'll be some sort of a change because of course, all of this is happening in concert with the players. Association. You think there might be some sort of a change where they say, you know what if we're going to try to make this work? We got to have everyone on board Do you think there? Might be some kind of agreement where are the the players Association agrees some sort of penalty or some some way to deal with these situations where if you know if a team, for example, Major League baseball finds out that player x was out in a restaurant someplace that they would say, okay, we got word that you're off the field you're putting everybody else at risk. But I think the I think the first episode taken when you have a compliance officer assigned to every team I I I think the ideas you now have a hall monitor which we didn't have before, and now the hall monitor sees Johnny Walk Down The hall when he should well, Johnny can get in trouble for that. So I think that is the first step to what you are alluding to, which is we have to have some type of accountability and responsibility on the individual, and if they break, there has to be some type of punishment because you are not jeopardizing only your. Health you're jeopardizing your teammates you'll get producing the other team you're playing and you're ultimately you're jeopardizing discovered the problem with what we're talking about here is it's not golf or tennis. This is not individual sports you you know you you could have curious decided not to play in a championship. This summer is a tennis player. The tennis tournament still goes on you know you have player x in fact, Clare Y on his own team they go play another team will exit why have just infected Z. and he's infected ABC and his own team. So you understand that it's not it's not A. Rocket Science to understand the domino effect of this i. do think that there should be some responsibility and accountability and subsequent punishment. If you ignore it, you're literally thumbing your nose at what you know has a I don't know what the percentage is but a real high percentage chance of succeeding and and you've you've university unilaterally made the decision but I think my way, it's GonNa work too. So I'm going to go get You know a a a steak dinner at this restaurant no last like nope we lose. Last, one for you Carl. Just. Based on your conversation with Manfred who is the one person power to shut this down? How close is who is breaking point? Well his I think he's breaking point of, and again, I'm speaking for him I'm not a my is that his breaking point is the frustration in the behavior of the player and I I don't think that he looks at this in a vacuum and says it's only the players that have that have sort of been nest messed this up here I think at this stage of where we're. At it's now on the player and the organization does there's a lot more that major league baseball in concert with the players association can do to ensure that their players are safe. I think now that you have the rules you as the player and you as the organization have to make sure that the rules and protocols are followed I it's not as if Major League baseball can. Can Do that you have to do that as an individual as a team as an organization. I think his frustration and is tipping point will come when he hears more and more that this team didn't listen a player was out there or three guys were seen at a nightclub whatever it may be. That to me indicates you know what? You're not taking it serious. You're you're you're not paying as much attention as you need to We we we will and should shut it down I if I were in that position and I were getting reports and I'm not saying he is but if I were getting reports, Hey, did you know that so and so was out last night? Hey, I just saw here's pictures of these three guys walk into a restaurant I would I would drive myself nuts wait a minute. What happened to we wanted to play more than sixty games how would we play more than sixty games and and behavior like this is going on like they're they're contradictory behaviors. So adhere to all the rules and protocols is as difficult. It may be on your life or don't and have the season wiped out and pay stops, and there's no baseball. Either got to be all in or are you going to be all out what it really comes to? Exactly. All right, Carl, good to talk with you. Thanks for doing this. Buster. 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So of course, this morning as I was prepping for the show, I thought of you with everything that happened with this yesterday and I mentioned to Carl ravitch that it was striking how longtime mets beat writers were talking about even within the mets realm of dysfunction. This was one of the most dysfunctional moments I'll let you rank that like when you think back at the mets history, what would be the height of dysfunction I have an opinion on it actually think it's the wild boar story involving cesspit is that would be the most mets thing ever what about for you? Yeah I you know it's a good question certainly felt certainly felt like it was on the list there and I definitely remember where I was sitting when the wild boar thing happened and it's definitely one of those moments that I remember you remember hearing the report you remember learning what happened and that's just so memorable because it was so fascinating I think yesterday was a little different because I mean when we first got that statement I, I was very concerned you know and. I think obviously that's part of it is the way that it was handled. There was initially a lot of concern for I think suspect as well being, and then it turned out that that wasn't a concern that wasn't what was going on. So I think it was just different different kinds of emotions but ultimately, you know wish the player well, you know obviously and you can't fall any of these guys for doing this but the way played out was certainly certainly something certainly different. Yet. There are a lot of people on the game. We're wondering why the match new. For resolution before putting out this statement because you and I both know there have been plenty of games that have started when the media was not aware that player x was at the Ballpark or not at the ballpark. and they could have gotten a full resolution of it before they put out that statement but. That's the mets. All right. Let's play the numbers game number one actually go number three Taylor Oh. Damn. I'm new to the numbers game. This is the first the second time played so okay. Number three. Number three is seven in one. So after that win last night being user now, seven one, this season, which is tied for their best eight-game start in franchise history, and because of the because they're the Yankees, they've done it a bunch before they did it in two, thousand, three, two, thousand, and two, nine, hundred, ninety, nine, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, nine, hundred, Fifty, eight, nine, hundred, fifty, six, nineteen, forty, nine, in one, thousand, nine, hundred, thirty, three, they went onto win the world series in four. Of those seasons, which is obviously the next question you should be asking their and looking ahead to tonight and to future games, they only made it to eight and one in two, thousand, three in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight. So if they win again tonight, it would be a much smaller tie there and the Yankees have just looked absolutely unstoppable even Paxon's lawsuit down again last night all of these other things it does not matter because of the guy we're going to get to and number two. Number two. So number two is five Aaron judge has now homered in five straight games, which is by far at this point, the longest stretch of his career and the longest by a Yankee, since Alex Rodriguez in two, thousand seven and the only Yankees players to homer and more than five straight games are Lou Gehrig in one, thousand, nine, thirty one who homered in straight Roger Marris in nine. Hundred, sixty one also in sixth straight and Don Mattingly in nineteen, eighty, seven with eight straight which of course is tied for the Major League record and his second home run last night went four, hundred, Sixty, eight feet and I think the most fun thing about that is that solely his sixth longest home run one, hundred, sixty feet sounds like a long way but Aaron judge that's only six was. Number One. Number one is nine. So Tyler. After the Tigers yesterday struck out nine batters Interro time the American League record, which was set by Doug fister also tiger and just one shy of tying Tom seaver overall record of Ten Straits. Alexander said a record for consecutive strikeouts in relief. He did not start the game with this was not the starter this with someone pitching in relief and I think this is a lot of fun looks into the consecutive strikeout guys last night of bunch the first pitcher to strike out nine in a row, which was the record until nineteen seventy-one saver. said it at Ted was Mickey Welton. Four and it wasn't actually officially recognized until the forties because the knife batter, it was passed ball. So as dropped third strike and because of that in the eighteen hundreds, they weren't sure if that was going to count adds a strike out even though we know that it does. So because of that it, it's this incredible record from ninety four, but it wasn't even really recognized until the nineteen forties. So you know Tyler Alexander. Tigers in those doubleheaders the seven inning doubleheaders in the second game just get him. So they're nine straight breakouts. lorettes insure that Detroit Tigers in the Baltimore Oriels off to surprisingly good starts in his incredibly small sample of games that we've seen what? Give me the name of a contending team that you feel like that going into this season we thought would be pretty good and now you're kind of thinking they might be in trouble. Well, I'm concerned about the raise I mean they're only four sex a that even that kind of deficit at this point is very much. You know easy to overcome. They just got swept by the Orioles. Their offense has not looked great and it really didn't look great against the Orioles, and we know what the Orioles pitching did last year giving up the most home. Runs in major league history and the players are pretty much the same aside from the opening day starter fill in and I don't know I think that they're only plus to render frontal right now i. think we all expected that pitching to be outstanding and the offense to really crushing. We haven't quite seen it yet. So a lot of people are picking them as a world series team and I think that was a lot of fun I think it would be great to see that but they they need to get it together all but to get their. All right sir. Good to talk to you. Thanks for doing this. Thanks for having me about Sir. Bleacher tweets. Already Buster bleacher tweets four Mundy. We have a lot of mets intrigue here has we've talked about throughout this podcast. Kyle is up I he writes in where does the latest chapter of the suspect it's messed mets saga fall on the all time list of most mets being ever Sarah Lang's answered that question you alluded your answer what do you think? Yeah in Kyle betting in his question you mentioned the wild boar episode as well. That's the number one like when you have a star player get injured with a confrontation with a wild boar and we never really have gotten full details on that and of course, none of the details have been confirmed who knows what happen but that was the most story ever. Justin Simmons at Justin Lance Sim Rights in. Hey Buster when is the last time a trade or free agent signing worked out for the mets Shirley. We don't have to go back to Beltran or effort dewey hitters bullpen starters they seem to have zero luck. look they made the world series in two, thousand fifteen. So they they've done some things well but. In the Last Two Years Since Brody Bandwagon and took over You know I said at the time I thought it was a mistake to hire someone who didn't have practical experience in that job the signing of Gel owlry the Robinson canot trade where we are with Edwin. D. As we haven't even gotten into that today and how much he struggled everything was cesspit is it's ugly. Our Dr Guy. Reggie at baseball NERD. Oh, seven rates in buster. Is this the day Otani became a hitter only? No. I don't think so I think the Billy Ler, who's the general manager? The angels for now has a lot of I think feeling a personal obligation to follow through with Otani who had choices about where it could go in terms of Otani following dream being both a pitcher and a hitter, and I hope that what they find when they do them are is that he had scar tissue break or something that is typical for pitchers coming back from. Tommy John. Corey, Rupert writes in if a player becomes symptomatic on the road like vodka did this weekend what's the protocol for returning that player to their home city? I've heard stories about teams basically putting a player in a car and sending them back. That sort of thing driving all the way back they. I. Don't think they. They fly them You know we got the story from Jesse Rogers, the other day about how some of those Marlins who tested positive basically put on buses and driven back from what were they Philadelphia Philadelphia all the way down to all the way back home to Miami. Think about that. That's a tough bus right of shame there. Yup. Last one for today Tommy Egan, writes in high buster do teams and or Major League Baseball have staff rounding up historic slash milestone items like baseballs, bats, and gear as a normal years. Are they considered essential staff and travel with the team or stay on the home? Ballpark? No, they wouldn't travel someone just to collect baseballs, milestones. That sort of thing I did notice last night and we came up during our broadcast one Aaron judge had his first home run. We were talking about boy could I walk over as a sideline reporter and just go pick up that baseball it because it's empty and we got word no, you're you're not to go and be picking a baseball in his stance and then I was watching and there were there was some Yankees attendant after home runs going up and picking up the baseball's got it. Yeah. That's a hard now has shy bleacher tweets on twitter. Thanks for right in everyone. Shout out to my guy. Who will be back with you tomorrow for doing an excellent job filling in last week. And before we go want to tell you today on espn daily hockey is back your breakdown of all the NHL Action and why it's all happening north of the border that's ESPN daily subscribe wherever you get your podcast That's it for today. My thanks to Sarah to Carl and detailer have a great day everybody stay safe and remember hate inequality based on skin color is something we must fight against every single day. 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Homegrown

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

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Homegrown

"Baseball tonight the podcast is the baseball tonight podcast for wednesday august seventh filling in for buster. Only i'm keith law the producer. Today's focus going to be joined today by my good friend alex spear to talk about his new book homegrown which the story of how the red sox the literally subtitles title how the red sox built a champion from the ground up talks about the red sox scouting both domestic and international and their player development system how they built the offense of core board helped them win the world series in twenty eighteen. That book comes out on tuesday for we get to alex. I actually had an interesting scouting night. Last night. Drove up to you scranton to see the scranton wilkes rail riders against the charlotte knights to see among a few other players lewis robert who is the white sox number one prospect right now now and for listeners who aren't familiar with my work or maybe don't follow me on twitter should follow me on twitter at keith law. I have been chasing this particular player for a year and a half now a charge four separate times to see him last year <hes> once here in wilmington when his club came through wilmington once in spring training once futures game unson fall league never actually take a game at twenty eighteen because every single time he got hurt that has not been the problem this year. He's actually been healthy all of this year so there was a lot concerned that he was. Maybe he was injury prone. I think a lot of it was just one injury last year he terrible luck. I have now seen him one to three separate games this. She also gone to see his team to other times. When i come to the ballpark in was playing which happens unfortunately i've seen him three separate times this year including last night he is now old for fourteen with me in the ballpark so this player take a look at least roberts stats and encourage you to do so because he is mashing and has done so at three separate levels this year and and yet when i there he is over next we start out three times less than i have to go back to maine votes to count update. There were seven or eight swings and misses last night. Which that's that's a lot obviously for eighty elite prospect and he isn't league prospect. We see the body. You can understand why the white sox were willing to give him figures as a free agent out of cuba. It's it's potentially a pretty special physical package and yet every time i see this guy i the joke is somehow. I'm doing something to him. I don't actually believe that's the case believe jinx's. I certainly don't think i- relatively small person sitting a long way from the plate and somehow intimidating louis robinson not performing but it's a longtime reader of mine tim burger tweet me sort of what do you do in that situation. When every time go see the guy he's not good and really if i knew nothing else about this guy i'd have to say. He's not good right. I've seen him three separate times against least six different pitchers over the course of those games. He hasn't hit any of them and the question that he asks was. What did you just sort of. Give up handed to someone else it would you guess scouts in my situation. And what do you do with him. You guys bring him for me because every time i see him. He's not good memphis essentially what i did on my midseason top fifty in which would still say the same. I know oh what i saw last night. It's not entirely representative of what robert is as hitter. I'm ignoring the facts. He's very center fielder. It can really run that stuff is is all still there but i had not seen him and i've seen him. Swain miss it a lot fastballs on the inner third and i've seen him chase a lot of sliders loan away. Those seem to be the two things things that teams are attacking him with right now that he's struggling to get to yet. I still had him ranked ninth amid season top fifty and that might actually be a little higher than personally comfortable. That's when i do any of those rankings i put together a rough draft and circulate to a lot out of people in the industry scouts prescribing director sometimes assistant gm's anybody i know who tracks this stuff in the in the case of robert. It's exactly what i did because every retired i see him. I seem to only see the downside of only seen the flaws and they saw it again last night. It was exactly what i described. He struck out three times and he largely struck out once once against the lefty twice against variety he stuck at exactly a way. I just described so i seen the negative but for me to walk away from that scouting conundrum. You can't just go off the small samples that you see you can glean something. I can tell you about robert's body. I tell you about his athleticism. I can certainly describe his swing for you and i can say all right well. Here are some things he's had trouble but the issue that you have when you're scouting and i should clarify. I'm a writer not a scout. A just pretend to be a scout is the issue is that you can't over generalize from what you see in fairly small samples or at least understand what you see maybe representative kind of the entire player and it may not be in the case of rubbish was a fast still fascinating prospect part of me that wants to see him actually just get into a baseball and drive at four hundred fifty feet this part part of you thinks this is hilarious that every time i go he goes over. I have to recognize. There's more to the player than i've been able to see over the course of now. Multiple looks the probably see him again. At some point this year and then next year he's going to be in the majors could <unk> stat lines not a whole lot left for him to do on the miners. There is clearly more to this player than i've been able to see and so in my physician at least in the suit gopher aaron law eric long and hagen who i've had on the podcast before who does the same thing i do does it over fan graphs. We have to talk to other people. We have to talk to other. Scouts gifts talked. This talked to analysts. Say what else is there about this player because clearly the picture that i have is incomplete helped me fill in the blanks. Tell me what you've seen from robert or with data. Tell you about robert that this player is able to do that. I haven't been able to witness because again. If i go see who apparently if i go see him fifty time next year he's going to have the worst season of his life. I know there's a lot more lewis robert than what i was able to see last night and i think it is incumbent again on on those of us who do this job full-time do it for the public to recognize my look at the sky while relevant is clearly not the entire picture supplier. I did see a few other prospects of note. Magic all was in the lineup d._v._r. Started for scranton wilkes bar. He was pulled. I think in park social rain delay early in the game. I will write up what i saw for e._s._p._n. Plus subscribers verse. Hopefully that'll go up on thursday this week thursday or friday at the absolute worst keep an eye out for that and now it's time to go for our big interview of today's my friend alex spirit. I am extremely excited for this interview out spiritual friend of mine for gosh fifteen sixteen along time. Many many years alex covers the red sox for the boston globe reportedly. He has a book coming out homegrown. How the red sox built a champion from the ground up will be out on tuesday august thirteenth from william morrow a division of harpercollins which i should just disclose also published my <unk> own book smart baseball a couple of years ago but we're only talking about alex's book out the morning thanks for joining. Hey keep thanks for having me on and <hes> and the the only reason why you befriended me was because i think i introduced you to pub- trivia back in the day utah. You specifically told me that you needed a ringer for geography questions. Yeah i was out it. I think so too actually yes. We'll have to get back together at some point. Even though of the three of us plus quizmaster master well we are now in three different states it. It creates a degree of difficulty. No doubt absolutely so. Let's talk about the genesis the book to especially if the red sox have been building they have done this the theo's quote from whatever that's sixteen years ago now about a well oiled player development machine. They were doing doing this for a while. What spurred you to write this particular book. Now i see me started this before. They actually won the world series i well. It's interesting the thing the idea for the book actually began in twenty fifteen after the red sox signed the most expensive prospect of all time you on cada and <hes> i was <hes> you know we've got something. Did all of us were pretty fascinated by because you know when a team commits sixty three million bucks to a guy who's never played a day professional baseball in his life. It's kind of interesting and <hes> and i was going down to to greenville that year single a greenville south atlantic league <hes> to seem inkata's debut but kind of stepping back looking at the team that they had there which also included the time rafael devers it included michael kopech. It included michael chavez a bunch of guys who are kind of <hes> a high ceiling prospects as well as some other more obscure ones who are becoming pretty interesting. I thought wouldn't it be interesting to follow one minor league affiliate over the course of let's let's say five years and the where see where their career pets took them and you know if this was this was a group where if you were to bet on a group having a superstar this would be a pretty good one to play on and until it started that way <hes> but then somewhere along the line in twenty eighteen. I realized life well. That's that's group. You know denver's especially in inter benintendi ended up being on that team later in the year ended up intersecting and interesting ways as with <hes> with a historic red sox team <hes> that i'd covered from its baseball into the whether it was jackie bradley jr. in matt barnes from their first day in <music> high a salem in two thousand twelve or mookie betts who was kind of a curiosity as a light hitting utility profile in role in twenty twelve twelve <hes> so that that was kind of so that those two elements combine the twenty fifteen this really interesting group of young players and twenty fifteen along with really really exceptional group of <hes> of homegrown players who had existed prior to that <hes> and they intersected an interesting way that <hes> that kind of served as the impetus for the book so so we gotta do a little tangent here to see you had a regular feature a win mookie betts became clear that he was more than just a light hitting utility infielder. I remember this but for listeners who don't please explain the fluids defeats of lewke in so betts bets had had this very ordinary performance in lowell and twenty twelve and he was you know he was kind of on the fringes of the red sox top thirty prospects lists <hes> if he was there at all and then the next year he started out <hes> in april hitting about a buck fifty with an on base percentage of about three seventy or three seventy seventy five and so that was interesting and you started reaching out to people okay what's going on here well. There's this guy who was hitting the ball really really hard harder than we've seen him hitting it in the past asked but <hes> you know we're we're waiting to see what that means and then starting in early april after there was there he he'd gotten to a point of serious failure. Oh you're in the course of that season to the point where he was doubting whether or not he had professional future in <hes> in baseball he was he was considering going to college and playing basketball and and he decided to kind of stick it out and he had a heart to heart with a hitting coach in single a. u. L. washington some people remember from chewing the toothpick with the royals oils <hes> and <hes> and they kind of overhauled some of his swing mechanics especially a leg kick and all of a sudden mookie betts who we know became became unlocked is this out of nowhere prospect who is not only not only started this enormous hitting streak and enormous on bay street but was impacting the ball in a way that that no one expected for a guy who at the time was his five nine one fifty five. He was actually up to one seventy five because he had he had worked out really hard that off season <hes> but it it was a daily thing it was like oh my gosh. You got two more hits. He got another double. He got another stolen base. He was emerging is this fascinating five tool prospects who hadn't been anywhere aware and the red sox prospect ratings in so as i was doing this daily update on the red sox farm system every day i was writing about mookie betts literally almost every day and so that became the hashtag feats of movie phenomenon in twenty thirteen and then carried forward for more than a year up until he made this kind of meteoric shot from from single a all the way to the big leagues span of about fourteen months <hes> he reached the big leagues in in yankee stadium in late june of two thousand fourteen so just just for readers who don't remember book is fifth round pick right. I think we fifth round pick in the draft which was central in for the red sox. Oh very much so so so danny watkins was the area scout you tell a lot of the story which is there are many many great stories in homegrown. That's one of my favorites. Even though i already knew the story story to just to hear that stuff in the scouts own words and in mckie's onwards obviously is tremendous. He didn't mention. I don't think i mentioned at all in the post draft right up and then only after twenty twelve eight one shot put him on top one hundred obviously. I shouldn't have ranked number two but i i had him somewhere around. The middle of the list is pretty good. We'll see what he does next year right and then. I never had another chance because he got to the majors yeah in two thousand thirteen that was the. I hear that i did the red sox. After the twenty thirteen season was the first year that i did the <hes> the rank the red sox farm system. I was doing it for baseball. America is obviously you know <hes> <hes> you know we. I have incredible respect for what you do and understand. The difficulty of the task from having started started doing just one teams prospect rankings career and i put mookie betts number seven that year. I put him behind <hes>. I wrestled with it a lot. I wrestled with five six and seven with garrincha keaney who looks like a future future batting champion <hes> by consensus blake swihart who is <hes> you know who looks like a very rare athletic <hes> catcher <hes> someone who would be who would have a distinct profile at that position and then mookie and who had had this out of nowhere performance and ended up having betsy number seven behind both sakina swihart and that was a that was amiss. Let's see swihart was a first rounder. Cheeky was over slot. Guy like a first rate. We certainly touted as a first job and then his brother was a first rounder so not the pedigree means everything of maybe it doesn't mean much of anything at all but it's completely understandable why you would rank those guys there. We didn't know we had no no. I don't think many people at all knew what the red sox had in mookie and that's kind of. I liked it. That's an interesting to a theme. At several points across crossed the book even players who we knew were probably good that the red sox guide them into the system made some adjustments but also maybe saw things that other teams didn't see him. Players feel like that comes up again and again over the course of the narrative with multiple of the practice you really you're following a pretty broad group of prospects here from their entry into the red sox organization until they get to the major leagues and with you know when you think about the players who kind of exceeded seeded projections with the red sox at various points whether it was mookie betts citing the fifth round out of high school or andrew benintendi having been a date three draft pick out of high school who ended up rocketing up to being the number seven picking the country to in twenty thirteen or a guy like jackie bradley jr. who was also undressed out of high school. There's the kind of team. Which is you know these were guys who are small in high school and the scouting industry really struggles to figure out you know to figure out what a guy is going to be if he shows some <hes> some really interesting basketball skills or game skills game instincts <hes> at a very at a very young age but if physically undersized you just don't know it's a lot harder to make a one million dollar bet on a guy who's <hes> on a guy who's let's say five foot ten and one hundred and sixty pounds then one who coming out of <hes> coming out of high school was like six expert to inject so there's you know it's it's interesting to see how you know how important fundamental basketball skills are <hes> but those those are hard to read in high school as well especially in the pre stack cast era and the pre showcase circuit era <hes> so th there does have to be <hes> there has to be a degree of skill jill entrust in terms of identifying players who may be underrated elsewhere but there also has to be luck in seeing those guys really come to pro ball with the right outlook in flourishing lurching once they get there. It's interesting. I just saw nick magic all last night white sox prospect who is listed about five seven one sixty. I think which is again dan exceptionally small. He's more than all the guys you just rattled off and he has those crazy. Bats boss got probably think he has the lowest strikeout rate of any significant the prospect in the minors but he's really small and they're still a question of how much he's going to be able to impact the ball once he gets to the majors. We just struggle with those guys as an industry industry because i think you said if the guy's six to inject well that's easy right. That's what they're supposed to look like no one's and no one's going to come back and say why did you take the guy who six to inject. I mean it's sort of self explanatory right and the red sox had veered away from that many times both in the draft i think international to they've been very comfortable taking guys with sort of atypical profiles particularly guys who are under six feet and yet what if there's struggles with with their pitching development which you know the the book focuses on on a position playing of course develops but <hes> you know we i touch kind of in passing on the fact that they haven't done a very good job developing pitching in part or drafting and developing pitching being in part that was because they had they had a size bias in <hes> in who they were in who they were pursuing as pitchers for a number of years they moved away from that in the last five years and have gotten improved returns but they were looking for kind of this they might be giants type of <hes> type of physical profile with clean deliveries that ended up being really easy see for opposing hitters to pick up <hes> and as a result <hes> as a result those guys did not enjoy the successive position playing group right trae ball all was that one of the names that was coming to montreal is certainly one of the names <hes> along eight. They had just as there was. There was one draft in <hes> in two thousand nine <hes> they had run of. I think like twelve straight draft picks that were built were college pitchers who are like six foot three and over and of those one guy ended up reaching the big leagues and and that was in who did so after he moved to outfield. That's worst than i realized. I've actually had this conversation with. Some of the red sox guys like mike record. Who's there there scott now. You've interviewed quite a bit for the book or they've done a very good job but he talked talked a little bit about the clean delivery stuff. It doesn't always work right. I mean i i come to braxton garrett as the guy. The marlins took in the first couple of years ago. He had one of the best deliveries i'd seen school. Kid think he made four professional fashionable starts before blowing out his elbow. <hes> i think he sees he's still back to being a really good prospect but turns out the stuff that we thought was was true. Maybe is not a hundred percent true in the red sox have need that adjustment in their drafting strategy since realizing hate this was this this was our philosophy of drastic pitchers and just has worked right so you know they were. They were able to kind of the that's. That's something that everyone in the industry. In every aspect of the industry three has to do right they have to continue to focus on what they're doing well and then be very honest and self critical about what isn't going well for them and kind of adjust on the fly and so the the red sox have kind of modernized modernized the way in which they're evaluating pitchers <hes> and <hes> and they've seen better yield results in the last couple of years but <hes> <hes> but yeah it's <hes> it's size is is one of the most immediate things that jumps out in <hes> in the scouting landscape right and <hes> it's one of the easiest and most obvious things to pick up on particularly with high school guys and so it <hes> and so it kind of steers it steered the scouting community in many ways <hes> in some instances away from really good players who are undersized in some ways towards really big players who might not end up being that good a player and <hes> it's. It's a it's a challenging. Thank you understand why it happens. I've done eighty international stuff. That's an area when i ask about next but when i go to see high school players or gone highschool showcase showcases assist the is simply drawn to the toss players. That's the tallest to the biggest the most athletic they tend to jump out took my daughter to the under armour game in chicago couple of weeks go and handed her the program and she said dad. There's only two players here on both teams total who are listed at less than six feet now first of all explain her. They're not all actually six feet tall five ten and a half but still there is a size. They're absolutely size. I'm not saying baseball factory. The wrong is i think they picked the right great guys but that's just how it goes. The alex bregman of the world and the the mookie betts are especially at high school wrong that performance data especially priests pre-treatment stuff. We tended to those guys just ended up not overlooked just underrated because we were. I think the industry as a whole was less certain written about them. I wanna talk about the international sites. We've talked a lot draft stuff too but you also talk about the work that the red sox done internationally particularly around zander bogart's and raphael divers who both turned into really really good major league players and we're we're high bonus guys to the red sox. Process does not simply does does not stop at the amateur draft. Talk a little bit about what you gleam in the stories you tell they are about the work they've done. Irrationally well. Zander bogart's really wasn't a hi wasn't that high dollar sign when you think about the relative dollars that are thrown around in the international market. They're you know they're million dollar guys their multimillion dollar guys <hes> it's been. Can you know say over the last decade plus <hes> there's been there. There was a considerable step up in in international bonuses. Gender bogart's was a guy who signed out. If a robot for you know what four hundred ten thousand dollars <hes> in part because he was coming out of a roof and no one's scouted in aruba or at least the the scouting presence in aruba back in in <hes> in two thousand nine was fairly limited and so they had a <hes> they had this kind of great <hes> <hes> this great wanderer under of a scout whose territory spanned from europe to <hes> to the <hes> to the caribbean islands which is just the best gig ever <hes> and <hes> although although he also talked about how there were a number of a number of kind of pat downs in mexico that he preferred not to relive <hes> but you know he got two he got out to to aruba and kinda famously you know had this workout for a day and wasn't expecting to see much she saw this one big power hitting catcher and enjoy your bogart's <hes> <hes> who said okay that might be a guy and then before he was getting ready to to hit a flight. You said okay yes around at this workout. Is there anyone else here who i need to see and the answer was well. There's this one kid shortstop vander bogart's whose job years twin brother but he has the chicken pox so that's why he's not here today and she i started hearing some things about zander bogart's and <hes> and all of a sudden. It's like well. I know he has chickenpox but can i get to get get a chance to see him before i leave the island in so zander got out of bed and he ended up coming over to the workout and immediately started started hitting hitting home runs basically from line to line in the setting and <hes> <hes> and <hes> mike lord famously <hes> instead of writing up a whole report took a edited down a video zander bogart's to about one minute and email we know that to the red sox international scouting director at the time craig shipley and said look at this and craig shipley opened it and immediately called mike lord to ask how soon he could get to aruba so the red sox saw an opportunity and they seized it <hes> those don't come across those don't come along every now and again you have to be semi fortunate to be in the right replace the right time but you also have to be willing to kind of build out your scouting infrastructure to go places where maybe not. Everyone is going to find that talent. <hes> who may who you don't necessarily find it get that incredible opportunity to acquire that talent <hes> at a relatively low cost you know that's the with someone who was on the red talks radar <hes> from the time that he was fourteen years old and they're dominican area scout manning anita some hitting on this kind of like open field <hes> in just just crushing you know just trusting line drives at the time not not necessarily home runs with law. This is a fourteen year old after all but hitting the ball so the opposite deal in that that that stands out when you see it at a very young age and so it allowed the red sox to kind of be on rafael devers is development for a long time and when they when they had the opportunity sinan twenty thirteen it was kind of a combination of you know of years of of tracking a young kid in the dominican <hes> in seeing you know seeing a guy whose position with the question because rafael devers was always a big kid but <hes> but they just saw a special electric bat and certainly we're seeing that now we'll be back to continue my conversation with alex in just a moment but i wanna tell you about shell v power nitro. 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The fuel rewards app or go to fuel rewards dot com uh-huh slash win to join in engines that continuously used shell v power nitro plus premium gasoline no purchase necessary promotion ends nine one nineteen nineteen see official rules at fuelrewards dot com slash win for how to enter by mail all details and now backed alex the story about bogart's loved loved the chicken box storage. Oh so you tell the book too. It's the old expression that kid could fall out of bed and he kind of literally right. I kinda jerry team. I'm from the workout. It was great yeah. I have a bad cold and i don't want to get off the couch and write this kid had chicken pox got out of bed and went and earn himself a four hundred thousand dollar bonus zander bogart's pre there are actually many of these are pretty special kids. I had a chance to interview zander years and years ago and he was absolutely amazing and i know you've written a lot about diverse makeup even as he got to the big leagues his ability to make adjustments to handle struggles is exceptional strike zone judgment for a kid who was so young when i got to the big leagues and i think that actually marked both of those kids tuesday they seem to have real understanding of the strike zone that is unusual in twenty and twenty one year old players it allowed them to get to the big leagues and then in both cases they were challenged massively by utility of you know the ability of big league pitchers to split their holes something that they just never experienced on the way up which created a whole different host of developmental challenges that they require a major adjustment in terms of how how they were <hes> they were approaching their own offense of games you know but to but both too deep struggles and self doubt <hes> but they were but that fundamental skill all that ability to to understand the strike zone and then to kind of <hes> to kind of reshape their games to stay back within it allowed them subsequent breakouts and when when you're able to kind of be on that fast-developing path getting to the big leagues at twenty and twenty one because of because of strike zone management in the ability to have great play coverage because you have such good basketball skill those are pretty good raw materials that give teams faith a player can come out on the other side of serious struggles so before i let you go. Oh just a question about the current red sox system. Is there any are there any prospects could be one more who you're tracking or particularly excited about in their system now because i do think the systems had a nice bounce back year after twenty eighteen when it seemed like everybody was hurt now. Some of those players are back in healthy. They've had a couple of surprise guys can move through the system unfairly quickly any one or more caught your eye well. I think that the one who really stands out as a you know as a fascinating you know what's this guy going to be. There's tristen casas because you know as a teenager he is giant and yet he seems to have a he seems to have exactly what we're talking about a really good sense of the strike wchs own an ability to use to use the entire field with power <hes> the ability to to drill balls into the seats in left field <hes> as a left hand hitting nineteen eighteen year old in in full season ball really stands out and he's he's got you know he's he's a billy you know seeing he comes across as a great kid <hes> and <hes> they're just a lot of components to him. It seemed like they they they suggest a certain star potential granted. He's only enables so we don't know but he's someone certainly to follow <hes> in becoming years and then beyond that they're these kind of lottery pick guys who lottery ticket guys who have incredible tools and you know oh you just kind of watched to see what shape they take over the course of the next several years guys like joe berto jimenez who's currently lull but <hes> he was out of no work. I think thinks signed for like ten thousand bucks <hes> in the dominican and he just you know this is someone who took who started switch hitting once he got into pro ball and in in his first professional season dominican summer league hit like three fifty as can't hit her in a side that he had never before so when you see things like that then it kind opens your eyes to to a sense of possibility but <hes> that possibility the the most intriguing stories are going to be unfolding over the next several years because they're found in guys is below levels air system jimenez is at least seventy runner too. I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. He can fly and yet looks like he can hit. I don't know what kind of player is going to because he's so young but that kind of speed absolutely jumps out so he's he's. That's an excellent choice alex pearce first book congratulations again on that ah called homegrown kid yet the it is it's tremendous. I got a chance to read it early. In may you'll see my blurb on the back of the book. If you buy this called homegrown how the red sox built a champion from the ground up it will be out on tuesday august twelfth from william morrow. You can pre-order it. You could buy kindle audio leo book or the <unk>. I am still very much a dead tree guy myself but i recommend everyone check it out. Even if you're not a red sox fan it's still fascinating baseball book and they don't just recommend that because alex is my friend and that's why i had him on the podcast alex. Thanks so much for joining me. Thanks for everything he really means a lot high fuster only here and my friends at marathon are really helping you save because right now you can get five cents off every gallon every day with may count rewards from marathon plus. You can earn points for additional additional savings on fuel airfare hotels in more. It's quick and easy to join just visit make it count dot com slash radio or download the free app so start saving today with make account from marathon offer valid only at participating marathon location-based marathon fueling the american spirit leisure tweets them excited to get some tweets with shows this one because i know that this is right up your real house. The first one comes from dave crop at crop david with the yankees being climbed to sell some of their quote fill in talent this off season for the sake of restocking their form system. That's an interesting question part because i'm not sh- i'm wondering who he's thinking of when he says villain talent like the i shows jealous. You know it's interesting it. That's what i thought slash hoped he was asking about because it's an interesting question. The yankees haven't done a ton of that since they've started this fairly recent pattern of taking on players who have essentially been discarded did by other organizations that kind of given up on them whether it's in trade or release less waiver candidates have got some devil magic going on here right. They've clearly got a different effort formula and they've managed to find a lot of value of dodgers it done this to cross tailored max munster absolutely teams that have found things they think work to extract additional value from players. Who've maybe not fulfilled. Their potential of other organizations with the yankees haven't done a lot of yet is flipped those guys for prospects. That's a good question because that's usually been the formula right that was always the oakland formula where oakland would find especially billy bean love to do this with with <hes> relievers. Take a take a picture from another organization tournaments were closer and then flip them for prospects yankees of course don't have the same needs to do that and i think they're forms down a bit but not awful. It's not at the point where they're saying. Oh god we have to stock with prospects. I specifically i wonder if they would do that with the corner infield glut because they just can't play all of those guys right there too many potential candidates for their corner infield spots in maybe that's usually will if andrew harkens back healthy and ready to go the can't play everybody do they try to trade at least one of those guys and whether it's for prospect or just for another other piece helped a major league team. Maybe it's a major league pitcher. That would make sense strategically. Certainly it'll be something to keep an eye on especially if the yankees are able to make depot season run next one comes from chris at cotton and twenty six the reds have acquired two pitchers in the last week and currently at five and a half games out of the wild card and and they play all the teams ahead of them before the season ends. Could this be one of the most interesting final stretch runs ever for a sub five hundred team. I personally don't think so. I don't think they're good enough. Fan graphs has their playoff odds right now at eight percent which is what is that makes them nine tenths wow ten eleven's. They have lower playoff odds than the diamondbacks right now. I don't think anyone's talking about the diamondbacks making a playoff on the red sox. Sorry reds after jump a lot of teams to get into the playoff spot. Yes they have the advantage that they have direct competition with some of the teams they're chasing but not all of the teams that they're chasing and i just don't think their offense is good enough. It's actually surprising they've done a really nice job with the pitching staff and i think the addition of trump tower certainly helps them at least providing bulk innings to their rotation but the offense hasn't been very good. Joey votto obviously isn't the player he used to be and i think that's really really dragged me. Offense down some fortunate of one of my favorite players to watch but i hard time seeing this team being good enough to leapfrog all of the teams teams they'd have to jump to get into a playoff spot in <hes> given the offense that they have right now which is <hes> maybe unnecessarily pessimistic but at least the fan dan graphs odds which are emotionless seem to agree with me certainly take the reds and a fight after what i saw last week yes no doubt eater frankfurters frankfurters at kayaking smith as keith. Who would you taffer comeback player of the year in both the a._l. And the n._l. Yeah i have to say this this one of my least favorite awards in part because no one's ever clear on what it means is this. Are you coming back from injury or you. Come back from some sort of personal setback tragedy or illness or is it just stunk last year and now you're good again and therefore we're going to give you this award like if the crowd if that last criterion counts has anyone had a better bounceback than lucas g alito. Maybe he wasn't maybe he wasn't good enough beforehand but certainly the trans he was the worst pitcher in baseball rushed yard last gossiping yup and he did pitch through some injuries but <unk> pitched through them so it's not as if he missed a huge chunk of the year but then he has come back and been one of the all star and he's one of the best pitchers in the american league this year. He'd certainly be an excellent candidate. If that's what we're considering i think you said in the notes that he'd been mentioned josh donaldson. He seems like a fitting candidate tate donaldson yet for the a. l. a. thrown my guy mike minor. He's had a really good season has not had a good one point. He was leading the american american league pitchers one of the two flavor so war which is amazing and by the way he's held up. I want to make absolutely clear. I did not think that was a good contract. Just because minor had missed almost three years multiple arm injuries and then i thought the idea of converting him to the rotation actually actually counting on him to be able to hold out as the starter was probably accessibly optimistic but now you see these excellent in that role so i was wrong. It was absolutely wrong and freely admitted matt toy at the mat toy. Which team do you think has a better chance of making their wildcard the mets that's where the red sox that so i actually believe so finger going back graphs again up finger of site i visit every day. Many good friends the mind right for them. They're the red sox playoff. There's just any any playoff spot fourteen point six percent. The mets playoff odds at thirty seven point three percent so they would tell tell you the mets. I'm actually going to go against that. I'm going to say i think the red sox although probably most likely neither of these teams fixed the playoffs and the biggest reason for that. Is that the nets let's recent run and i got credit. Joe sheehan will join me on the podcast tomorrow for pointing this out in his email newsletter. The mets are coming off the softest underbelly of their schedule and are now entering a period. I think starting this weekend where they're going to play only one non contender over the next next month and a half. We'll basically the season series with kansas city and otherwise it's contender contender contender. They have played a lot of non-contenders as they played a lot of teams lacking pitching and that's why you've seen some offensive outbursts. That's why they've managed to pull themselves back over five hundred. They're not the team team that they've appeared to be over the last five six weeks. That doesn't mean they won't make the playoffs. They obviously are in a in a position in standings right now where that's entirely possible. I just think that the odds the thirty seven point three odds that fan graphs gives probably doesn't adequately consider because that's just not how they do them how much the mets beat up on bad competition over last month so my answer is twofold. One is i think neither of that makes the playoffs but if i had to pick one at say probably the red socks over the mets for that reason because of the strength of schedule what they've just played and what they have remaining. I agree but regardless of how they've gotten here. It's crazy thing. I'm in two weeks ago. I don't think we would have ever thought that this would even be a legitimate question but here it is a great last week comes from vintage i at vintage. I is the possibility possibility of a dynasty out of reach for teams in today's game which team or teams do you think have the best chances at establishing one in the next few years. I think it's it's hard out of reach probably not we've certainly seen teams. The dodgers right now could very well win their third straight l. pennant now. I know that's not necessarily the typical definition of dynasty but there's thirty teams whereas winning multiple world series aroused be extremely hard for anyway just because there's more teams and because i think the nature of the game nature pitching. It's very hard to be healthy enough. Sake three straight years and maybe win. Two world series out of three. The dodgers look like pretty good chance to get to their third straight and al pennant. I would at least argue. That's a minimum level for calling a team dynasty faster at this year that would be that was the next year i was. I was gonna say if the astros win at this year and you look at how good they are and how young how good they've been that would be four straight years of significant contention end of strong enough. Core players are still pretty young they could again you have to what is what do you mean when you say dynasty. If you're talking my old school or even the yankees winning three straight world series at the end of the nineties and contending substantially around those with what when ninety six skipped a year one three went back nearly one fourth in there. That's probably the last team that everyone would agree with some sort of dynasty. I don't think we're very are you likely to see that again. Is there any team in baseball. I think was headed that direction every talking about the padres farm system for about three years now and you're starting to see some of that talbot alica to the major leagues. That's only gonna continue. I think they're going to be really good for a really long time but there are also in the same division as the dodgers who are also really good and probably going to be really good for a really long time. Thank you questions this morning. If you have any special prospect questions reminded me that you would like to ask you he'll be back tomorrow so use hashtag which tweets that's all for today's show. Thanks very much to my guess alex spear you check out his book homegrown which will hit stores next tuesday. I will be back tomorrow tomorrow. Thursday's show with special guests eric caravel and joe sheehan reminder. If you have prospect related questions i'll be back also the answer some of with those in the bleacher tweets. Thanks so much for listening. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout check out all podcasts at e._s._p._n. 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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 727  News and 2020 Outlooks

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 727 News and 2020 Outlooks

"<music> hello awkward grabbing seven twenty-seven on the sleeper in the bus. It's wednesday august fourteenth. I'm your host. I'm joined by justin mason justin. What's going on dude. It is so oh hot right now. Oh my god fan yourself with that. You want in the draft kings game yeah did. Let's go man who who did it for foia. Who was it a team effort or was there to that really. It was really a team effort one. I mean i think i won by like forty something points in our contest. It was a little bit tighter in the towers. My giannella made kind of run. I ended up winning that one too is so i won the period as well which gets something in a tournament. Tell me you did. I did not d._f._s. Wanna one yeah it. I should've i honestly i had i when i set up when i stood up my <hes> my lines for earlier in the day you know us kind of a dummy lineup. It's got some of the players and ideas of kind of what i wanna build and then typically you know about an hour or so before log all make sure you guys are in the lineup move things around things like that. <hes> and i wish i had run at least one contest with the original lineup because it even better oh no is way the worse i'd like matt boyd instead of jack flaherty everybody but two guys score double digits for you yeah it was it was really a team effort and it was you know i mean obviously yankees. Stack against you know means in the orioles is always a good idea. I faded colorado in colorado which you've heard a lot of people tennis the gotten at ten seven with l._a. Pittsburgh that's that's really what did it. I would say that that that effort with bell frazier and otani was was really where it was that yet trout as well but he's actually on your underperformance as was gleyber torres to your most expensive guys great job there though well done. I like that you had joe ross since it's on on the topic. There wasn't gonna bring them up but you pick joe ross. You're obviously familiar with what he's doing and light his chances to to do something there last night i joe ross was a prospect i. I've always loved tights. It's an fell right for joe joe. I i did not pay him any mind this year. I was like you gotta show something and we talk about players like that where it's like until you shows something. I'm not in and i might lose you to a waiver wire. I don't care but now he's showing something you'll get his last three starts for joe roff basically his august thus far at arizona at san francisco and then yesterday against a quality cincinnati team. He's allowed just wondering run in eighteen innings now he does have eleven strikeouts nine walks but <hes> this three innings sample. He is throwing watched <hes>. I watched the san francisco start for joe ross. Is he somebody that you're picking picking up and hanging onto right now. I don't know that i'm hanging onto him but he's definitely someone i am. I'm kind of looking at the schedule and going knowing okay. Is he usable in in the near future. He's not a guy that i necessarily want to run out there against elite competition but <hes> i mean if if you had seen kind of this san francisco and cincinnati to step you probably you probably would've wanted to use him. I mean these are two offenses. That aren't necessarily firing on all cylinders so i used him yesterday largely because he was home versus it's an any and <hes> he was extremely cheap in d._f._s. And i think that kind of the the <hes> the things you want to target. Is you know he was extremely cheap. People out to load up on bats. <hes> you know in pair them with clarity so. I don't know that i'm holding onto him anywhere. I don't know where his next start is because to pittsburgh and then the cubs home to miami gotta go pittsburgh. You're gonna to use them against cincinnati at home. You're you're going to pittsburgh like terrible. They rise up every once in a while like any team does but you're not afraid of pittsburgh in fact dylan peter's tonight. Tonight is an interesting spot start their dreadful against lefties not joe ross a but i think the point stands and you know at the cubs will be tough <hes> <hes> but miami after that so joe ross you might want to just be putting them on your bench as opposed to letting i'm get dangled back out. There on the waiver wire be dominates at pittsburgh. There is a scenario where i would start at chicago. I will say that joe ross <hes>. It's not that's right now for me. Though the upside just so limited i mean these last three starts where he's been very very good. He's only had three three strikeouts but i think a lot of that right. Now is joe ross looking to survive and doing so he's still getting swinging strikes not really going for the strike outs i think as he settles we could see a little bit more of the strikeout upside because he does have an eleven percent inswinging strike rate so anyway. That's just where i'm at right now with with. Joe ross is definitely something to pick up in stream to your point for the app is for sure. Maybe not for the chicago but then home against miami to cap off the month. You would definitely want to get back on that little tangent there. We got a lot of news and notes today so we're gonna we're gonna cover that kind to get your outlook on some of these guys whether it's going forward for the rest of this season or into twenty twenty because of some injuries then a few performances that have been going off and i want to get your thoughts on where they're at ah especially their twenty twenty outlook. Let's start with some unfortunate bad news for pittsburgh. This came on. Nobody i mean shouldn't we start with like the big good news as a pitcher going to arizona arizona yeah yeah. I was gonna talk about that at the end of it. That's fast. I just figured we start off on a high note and then i'll be at we. Did you one relax. How many high notes do you need today. I need all the high notes clearly clearly but yeah you're gonna to be there. It's going to be awesome. I'm really excited to be honest it's going to it's going to be a lot of fun and i mean just the people that are going. It's going to be even better this year than it has gets better every year it really does. We talk this event. They don't pay us. You know it's not anything like that. We call it. You know we talk it up because joey lobby. It's been a great and i'm really excited that you're going to be there. I will say that the the lunchroom mean with you on the outside was one of the funniest things i've ever seen life. <hes> did you see the the first burst first birthday version of that. No i didn't <hes> games to me. Yeah off off to send you the one that <hes>. Ah after i announced that i was going to be going there was a kind of a response mean. You're gonna miss the first birthday but like the i. I don't think i feel like a crappy dad and everything at the same time she's not gonna know missing it no chance and then honestly <music> honestly. It'll become like probably a funny thing dad. You're going to get my birthday this year like you did when i was one you know that's that's kind of a funny jab that <hes> that you guys has can have because you know danielle is gonna bring up so that'll be funny job all weekend. Oh well yeah that's one hundred percent on the weekend this year but i'm talking like when she's twelve and the day before her third no way she lets this go ever know nor nor should she so it'd be great a great. I mean fodder for the future. Let's get back into this news james anton down with tommy john outta nowhere really i did my ideal top thirty podcast casts yesterday and i talked about a group of honorable mentions ty did not make the top thirty but he was in the next twenty honorable mentions thinking that it's going to be an off offseason of rest and rehab coming back from from the strain that he had nope full-scale tommy john out twenty twenty and it's really tough now to to be all that bullish on jameson on. It's just it's one thing after another and i it really sucks because this is a career. That's being cut a short that i think really could have been special big town. Fan loved him coming into the year. You only had fourteen era in his first seven stars but i was not deterred at all my my i love about what he could do was still very high. Even with the strike outs underwhelming little bit thirty in thirty seven and a third innings the way was throwing was strong but then the flex restraint right right elbow flex restraint turned into tommy john and like i said out twenty twenty in dynasty. We're yet now with with jamison. Take the pennies on the dollar or you. Just ride it out and put. I'm on the stash i mean i'm always about taking pennies on the dollar especially if i know that twenty twenty is in going to be profitable for me anyway so there may be a league or to where i go and acquire a tie on that being you'll pay. You'll pay the pennies on the dollar. Sure sure why not okay yeah. No no that's fine. I misunderstood you would take it and start selling off your shares. It depends on i mean i don't know if i would sell off my shares shares unless i was in a league. That didn't have a lot of i._l. Slots every game you. This is is probably too hot right now because we can still dream on it but i feel like in two weeks. It could be more reasonable than say like aristidies keno. I'm trying to think of somebody who is like that flashing flashing the pan though that somebody just say you know what you can have this guy right. Now is kind of out of nowhere think ryan goines is too low and aristide is too high but you get the vibe. I'm trying go for here. I don't know that i would necessarily i don't believe in kenya so why would you take talk men for tie on. Would you trade trade. Talk in a dynasty league talk for tyron okay and so then you were trained aquino too. Okay okay well. That's where you're at then. There's not much else to i'd say right. Now about a massive bummer struck me. I know where i was talking yesterday actually kind of getting excited like oh yeah. We'll be twenty twenty back on the train and then boom t._j. Jake arrieta elbow. I l out for the year. It looks like terrible anyway <hes> hm this doesn't really move the needle as far as like oh no fantasy teams are are toast. It does cost them some innings. Though right i mean when we started talking about n._f._c. Versus real life it's one of those things where he was still eating innings and while he was not particularly fantasy viable with four sixty four year eight and a one forty seven whip jake arrieta i mean that's that's grinding out like just worse than a quality start and every time out that's useful for a real life team so now they have to go replace a place that but what is your outlook on gariana going forward because i was a thousand percent out this year and yanking me back in next year. That's for sure so so. Where are you right now with an elbow injury. That's likely to cost him the rest of the season yeah hours right there with ya. I'm i'm out obviously for this year. I think you can you. I used to drop him in just about every format. I know i say full-scale draw now only here for hanna yeah so i'm <music>. I'm gonna stay out next year. The price is going to be nothing so if you wanna take a shot on it. I just think you can get <hes> you know sixto extols sanchez or something like that probably in the same spots yes by back in and some of the prospects who didn't pan out this year like hey seuss lazardo force whitley lately that's the drought trains and so why even why even take the area at a shot because it's going to be safer yeah and those prospects come up and ella say they're more of like this year's jake arrieta but they have the upside to be like good jake arrieta if we're really if we're keeping in the scope of them versus area so i'm with you full l. pass it does put zach f. one back in rotation i believe in he's flashes this year but obviously was poor enough to get kicked out. Where do you stand with zach kathleen as a mixed league pickup is funny because last year we were looking at those underlying numbers going man. There's some room for growth here but he can't keep the ball in the ard ard yup and this shocked to learn that on june nineteenth after his quality start at washington zach f. one had a two eighty three e._r._a. Day june nineteenth. Do you know what it's like far and half right yeah it's four forty nine so you put an eight and one in the subsequent thirty two and a third innings there and guess what he gave up ten homer so there's your there's your segue segue back into what you were saying about keeping the ball in the yard and that's i mean that's brutal so is that your biggest concern here and why you might not be interested in yeah. That's my big concern. I mean i like the stuff but if you can't keep the ball ard philadelphia he's he's gonna have problems that being said is giving up only one home run in his last four outings so that's a bit encouraging though it's not like they face the giants twice yet and then tripped arizona with the humidor and then the white sox on exact scary and it's like five innings so i feel you on that zach one the thing of it is he's going to look like an oasis waste out there on the waiver wire because even with the four forty nine e._r._a. It's still one hundred eighteen innings ninety nine strikeouts that you're gonna see that it's going to be enticing. Let me just kind of give you. The schedule set up here a little bit san diego this weekend at miami the following again. They only have a five day schedule so we actually next week so he actually goes set a saturday here for flat. I really really just decided that. I'm actually going to go pick my one fastest finger league. I'm gonna now because why the heck not take that shot. I mean if he can if he can get through san diego will he should have no problem getting through miami so yeah why not take the shot up side there yeah yeah. Just you know hopefully you don't get burnt and there's always that opportunity was going for the afrin can do i will say it could be a two and and jump off situation now because it winds up mets at cincy atlanta boston so it gets a lot tougher there zac f. one would have to prove even the san diego miami starts improve as much as you can't to starts that he is commanding the ball well enough to keep it in the yard or else. It could be held pace. I say get zack f for this saturday the next saturday and then consider moving on unless we see something that really look like that first half of the season. Let's talk about robbie ray. He loved his start today with a little bit of a back situation. Back expands should be anything too crazy only two innings in colorado. Is this almost a blessing in disguise being slightly tongue in cheek but also somewhat series of course field yeah we we don't miss a game. This is the one you wanted to you know and it's back spasms. He should be all right so it's not i'm not wishing for injury or routing being on it. I'm just saying like a couple of weeks there anyway. Let me just go ahead and get out of this one. I'd already given up a run to walks on a hit <hes> so yeah kind of the long ball anyway. I'm just saying i'm just so with robbie ray. I did want to talk a little bit about his his twenty twenty outlook here because let me ask you something real. Quick and get your thoughts. Where do you think is on among starting pitchers on the razz ballplayer raider. I bet you he's twenty sixth really good at this today. What was the other thing you guess f. One ziara twenty eighth very well done there and that impresses me i did. I wouldn't have said that high. I think because it's it's it's a bland offering outside of the strikeouts but the strike outs it's strong with robbie ray and the simple fact is something that we've hammered home repeatedly in the last year plus plus you don't need to the top of the scale of innings to rate well on these either so you take a three ninety nine one hundred and eighty five strikeouts in one one hundred forty innings and ten wins and boom. You're twenty eighth among starting pitchers. That's where robbie ray has any always costs fair market value. There was that one bid after after the sub three e. r. a. where he was pushed up and that was that was an issue because it was very clear that he was not anywhere near it eighty ninety or a guy i am but since then last last season's draft price i think upcoming season's draft price twenty twenty. I think robbie ray will be someone worth buying lying. Just you kind of know what you're getting right. Yeah i think if as long as he keeps the ball in the yard and doesn't walk the entire yard and while while for walks per nine isn't necessarily thing we aspire to for him. That's keeping people off the base paths yeah because it was five last year earn it really ballooned robberies whip to one thirty five and then all of a sudden you start to undercut the positives that he's doing with a passable e._r._a. In the elite each strikeout rate so <hes> yeah the bax shouldn't be anything too bad business as usual. You almost caught a break there to be quite honest though because he wasn't chorus field on the sean the only only three pitchers that have a higher k per nine than robbie ray in at least one hundred and forty innings so far this year chris sale garrett cole justin austin versus number yup they go and that's that's how you're twenty six are twenty-eight despite you know solid but unspectacular era a mediocre whip at one twenty nine for robbie ray all right showman ira gonna be back after one more triple a rehab start it hasn't rained in the minors with the results particularly because of hits and homers but the underlying skills and twenty four and a third innings with thirty five strikeouts in eight eight walks. We somewhat encouraging here <hes> he has split his time between high and triple a. and got blitzed in tripoli. Those are excuse me in high. Hey those were the early starts. He was not going long eight and a third of the three starts and it was really bad in the sixteen aaa innings. It hasn't been bad outside of the four homers giving up so he gets yeah his home. Park of oakland for shaman is going to be a hell of a lot better than anything in las vegas or the has to offer. Are you jumping on the mnay train before he comes up or is it a wait and see approach. Do we know what his schedule is. Potentially let me just go over the general schedule for them and kind of eyeball it because it's hard to know exactly what he's going to come back so so let me get that here for oakland. <hes> let's see and by the way i think as cels ardoz also working his way back so the two of them could be coming in tandem here so let's just start with next week. It's a new york for three. Don't want that the yankees but another two pack against the giants okay yeah that would be nice yup and then a four pack against case he he comes back in that six day range and that plausible considering ninety seven his final rehab start art from august fourth through august twenty nine. I think one of the encouraging th there's two encouraging things for me one that he's gone in his last two starts he's gone six innings and then five and two thirds when was that last one from his last one was it's eight thirteen at kansas city yesterday okay so <hes> he's gotten strikeouts in those two starts as well eight strikeouts in that six existing stretch and ten strikeouts yesterday versus kansas city's triple eighteen so he's he's staying in the game deep deep enough to get out to get a quality start and <hes> getting strikeouts. I think that kind of lends well to him having success at the major league level especially getting a pitch in oakland <hes> which is a nice little pitchers haven. I think i would kind of grab him especially in fifteen leagues even if it's just a stream in for a starter too yeah even if it's just to see what with the san francisco or k._c. If chamonix depending on when he comes back if everything it goes well with the last rehab that'd be great. If it gets pushed all the way to the end of the month the new york that's a different story but then it's home for six against the angels and the tigers and even the angels have some difficult parts in their lineup. I still wouldn't be as afraid of starting there <hes> and then of course if it's detroit then it's all systems go so keep an eye on an idea i agree. I think particularly if you're pitching starved and you're already turning over iraq. You're looking to get eflin right now. You go get maniaci ahead had a time anything either like the nice thing. I if if you're running low on fab or you're trying to conserve for the last six weeks you shouldn't have to to break your budget and don't like two three dollars because if somebody else wants to overpay let them because guys like keno he did go and a lot of leagues but there were some wigs were he. He's going he was going and he was the hottest thing going right now. Aquino was talk men and they were going at reasonable prices so sean. Minaya should be a sub sub five dollar bet therefore particularly. You're buying ahead of time. Alex dickerson is going to be activated after an oblique situation with the giants pablo sandoval all goes to the i. l. to take his place <hes> they basically trade spots. There dickerson was absolutely electric for the ninety eight plate appearances that he put up before this. I l stint six six homers. Three triples ten doubles three eighty six four forty nine seven seventy three bungie numbers bottom line he was kicking but can you come back and carry on on in mid eight hundred's opiates because he's not going to keep at twelve twenty. Nobody thinks is gonna do that. Can you <hes> but but can you keep can keep something in the mid eight hundred's with some punch because that's what he is is. A power guy fawkes dickerson. What do you think i don't think so well. I just i that's the giants fan. Folks coming at you at the honesty. Yeah i think he can be a an interesting adding player in maybe kind of league average in your fifteen team leagues but i don't expect him to be anything. Worth fawning over the park accepts too much power that lineups just absolutely atrocious awesome oh sarah i was trying to finish your sentence. I i we're not quite as in tune is we. We will be after spending a weekend together in arizona hell but it's yeah. I think you probably have admist hot streak. If you didn't pick up before again i'm talking like i don't know i think i think he can keep a mid eighteen hundreds what i do like that he comes off the gets the game today at home against oakland which then they go on the road getting shut out okay so <hes> if he's in that one than than homer bailey's cutting them up <hes> but this is alex nickerson we're talking with the with the pronouns there but beyond beyond that once they go on a on a away stand a road trip. I should say in a way stand cool life. Do i'm going to quit. I quit the podcast here. Charlotte take over in a way stand band sick brain functioning <hes> anyway he didn't play into a stickers that did not play in today's game but that so he's going to be there for the rhody at arizona at the cubs so i say pick them up if you need a little punch if it is like mid low eight hundred with some power and you can afford potential batting average hit. I think that's what you're really protecting against their as you mentioned the park always difficult particularly for a left handed guy so i'm not saying anything near the hot streak that we saw you know he hit six six homers in ninety eight plate appearances. What's he gonna get the rest of the year like two hundred point. Yeah i was gonna say about four or five. I keep going to repeat that but maybe in double the playing time yeah. I just think there is enough dickerson. I was gonna say. I just don't think there's enough upside to warrant <hes> the downside that's fair. We'll see we'll see how it goes and of course needs needs vary obviously when you're need offense vince. You're not hoping to go to san francisco to look for it. There was some intrigued with him. Though during that hahtrick that's dickerson moving on jeff. Mcneil hits the l. with with a hamstring situation. I don't like calling every injury of situations that i'm just an injury <hes> again. My brain does not work today. I guess i'm just so excited to see you on october that i. I can't talk straight but i've faded him a little bit this year. It was the one thing i will say. I did like it when it came to people wanting to prop up joey wendell. I was like well gimme jeff mcneil. I thought they were the same player gimme jeff mcneil as far as that goes so i had a little love for when it came to that debate but overall. I can't say that i was i was really trying to get jeff mcneil beyond that and he's really impressed. He's actually used a super happy. Bouncy fund ball clip along with the great average. We knew the average was going to be there but he's three thirty to four. Hundred five twenty nine with fifteen yaks even thrown informs on basis granted. It's been nine opportunities but jeff. Neil's been pretty nice assuming this injury is not something that hamstring is should fine. What do you think of the multi altea positional eligible jeff mcneil for next year in two thousand twenty. I kind of feel like he is early career justin turner war ooh where he's just getting that first power does this year but then even more that i mean that fits the it's the average plays multiple people positions yup. I work for like you're doing kind of a weird thing here. Because justin turner was as well now he didn't really break out with them but that that that gives us like an extra link. At least he could do it with the mets whereas turner left and then broke out so i'm going to be very interested especially. I'm not one of those this guy's at prioritizes average but he's third in the race for the n._f._l. Batting title right now. He's not what i really don't think that even if he comes back and he's fine. Let's say it comes back in two weeks continues on his trajectory of doing well. I don't think jeff mcneil's prices going going to soar. It's gonna go up from last year but i don't think it's going to be agreed just to where you're like. Oh i can't pay that and if you get cheaper batting average like you said you don't prioritize it usually because it's too expensive. I think that's why you usually fade. I mean this is not perfect analog because it was it was on memorial morial day and we've had plenty of excellence from mcneil sense then but he only went to fifty seven knows drafts and he was already doing well in fact. I kind of look exactly exactly where he was around that time his slosh well he was on the i l. at the time but he was hitting three thirty one four eighteen four sixty one macneil was so you know he's been better since particularly with the power but what even if he seventy picks from that to fifty seven seven a._d._p. You're talking <hes>. I have no problem taking him at that. At that level of around one eighty one seventy the guy is so for home runs a three hundred batting average yeah at the top of lineup even even if it's not a great one we'll see what the mets do in the off season and everything anything awful lineup no no yeah i'm on jeffrey neil. It's a bummer. They got hurt here but just ride it out. Bring him back. He converted me. That's another point in in the conference chamberlain by the way too quick trivia questions ones about mcneil because i'm looking kind of underneath nisa hood a little bit. I'm a bit concerned. Like what do you think is swing percentages what you said you're a big concern because obviously i would've said had not because he's such a good batting average guy low strikeouts fourteen percent clip yeah i would've said swing would be like i don't know fifteen percent or something. It's forty one. What is contact is just amazing play coverage. I mean he's got a seventy percent okay so he's making a ton of contact outside when he swing outside so he's like you know he's kind kind of wadi. Ask here as far as like as far as that obviously not the full profile here but that it really is he could be striking out only fourteen fourteen percent clip but swinging outside of the zone that much you know that's reminiscent of a <hes> well not the strike outweigh the that's the thing anytime i find a calm it kind of breaks down because the guys don't don't swing that much. It's forty percent on the swing right. Actually no this is this one does work. It's kinda reminiscent of like an eddie rosario and he swings a lot and doesn't have a lot of patients. You didn't take walk but he makes contact outside of the zone and if they can do damage on it. I'm all for it so you know i'm here for this with jeff mcneil to like i was saying good call by mcneil and talk me whenever i heard their name all year out. Chairman is what i would think of and he runs with both the talk one took awhile but <hes> big ups to him so hold on before you move on <hes>. That was a piece of trivia one. There's two there's two mcneil is third in the n._f._l. Batting title race christian yelich is to who's not who's leading the n._l. Batting title racer <hes> uh-huh. Josh bell nope his teammate though kevin newman no. I'm brian ronald yeah. I think i meant to say reynolds. When i said numan truthfully to reynolds has thirteen home runs is hitting three thirty eight. Oh my one didn't he only recently qualified to maybe he wasn't leading a while because he wasn't yet qualified fine yeah so it's going to be an i mean he. He's got a little bit of a lead on <hes> on christianity to going going to be interesting race down the stretch. If ryan reynolds when you know brian reynolds will look pretty good at the toppling of san francisco lineup. They could use a guy like really interested to see where in those are jerk thing to say really interested to see where he goes like in the too early mock drafts yup because that's another cheap batting average i think i don't think people are going to overspend on a guy like brian. Reynolds and i'm here to pick it up. I think i think guys like mcneil neill and reynolds and the aforementioned newman who's hitting three oh to a few other guys out there that do this kind of thing they could. Maybe help you use big when you are or maybe even lean into more of your no batting average thing earlier in the draft or even later at the ends of the draft but then in the middle you you pat it with these these guys here so that if you don't get a joey gallo hitting sixty five or whatever you're getting protected by these buddies brian reynolds types 'cause. I don't think hans john's or l. Bertos who is worth in the american league batting tyler is absurd or louis arise in in minnesota whose like basically kind of a willens as to d._o. But not as big of a cult favorite because he's not a portly guy who also plays catcher somehow ronald a kunia. I have not heard of that guy so don't really know anything about him late by the way. I don't really have anywhere but i fully support him going. In the first round. I wonder how much victory the people who took him in the first. That got crapped on our doing. They've got to be loving. I think more deka at the yeah yeah. I get a <music> virtually daily reminder that i took a altoona they over kunia by calling weather wax in our main event qualifier fire sorry. I wasn't trying to roast you there i didn't i didn't realize he he just he owned a pretty close to daily reminder. You know he sends me. I remember it was like a thing that modique took him fourth in arizona like <hes> look at him overreacting to the hot finish that he had maybe he i should've gone earlier. Let's be honest. Maybe he should've gone ahead of knowing aired auto in that draft as well but a kuni is amazing derailment there. Let's get over to garcia speaking speaking of batting average another guy who sitting pretty well but he's gonna hit the i l. right. Now i believe with an oblique yes least favorite injury so that stinks <hes> hit seventy eight nine thirty average and you had a few years ago but still happened. The pop seventeen homers sneaky nine stolen bases for missile garcia. Eh as far as the oblique goes that's right. That's my concern cutting him shower leagues. I'm cutting them in all formats except for only take. You can't do it but yeah it's. It's a huge bummer because he's putting up that milky peak milk caroline with ray com isn't like super sexy but it's super valuable as you're like number four outfielder yup. It's a it's a glue piece that look at the end of the year and it was worth like twenty two dollars in your damp. I got him for three dollars or whatever the case may be so great comp there. I agree with you mixers. I think gotta move on oblique so the worst a._l. Hold on impre y'all moncada going out on a cab for the white sox. We haven't heard much from him or tim anderson really they haven't been really in the spotlight lately but they're both continuing their break out. Seasons moncada has a three zero one three fifty eight five thirty thirty-five slash with twenty homers seven steals now. He's only played ninety seven games so far so when he returns he'll probably finish with what <hes> round one hundred and twenty five ish games by the time he gets back from this hamstring strain. Where does moncada's value i next year because he didn't quite complete the breakout but the bottom line is going to look good unless he he sputters to the finish line. Yeah it'd be interesting to see what he does rest the way he he's become more aggressive this year fire which is obviously a he's made a concerted effort to be nor aggressive at the plate and i think it's working obviously he's walking get his lowest rate in the major leagues but i mean he's added this power this batting average has i mean that's obviously going to come down. I think think he's probably more of a two sixty two seventy hitter. I just have no idea where the industry's going to put him in terms of like a._d._p. Ian ranks next year remember where he went in the too early <hes> last year. Excuse me not too early in the <hes>. What's it called. Oh i'm sure he went way way higher than we got because that was when that was when he and anderson were getting all of their buzz so he went fifty. Excuse me anderson went fifty sixth. Moncada went sixty. I do you think he improves upon or acts to that goes up higher or or kind of stays where he is from cada. I think he's going to kind of stay where he is which isn't barring like september right. Yeah i mean if he goes is often september. All bets are off top third. He's only twenty four years old. Yeah i mean that's the thing with moncada here. You know those that were kind of writing it off and i had my doubts for sure because the batting average with the strike outs that was my biggest concern i thought power speech scher but is it going to be with the two-thirty average. It's going to be painful same with tim. Anderson had some concerns with him but i like i'm okay with inkata's changed here because it's not like as walk rates nothing. It's it's still eight percent. He'll still take a walk on you. If you're going to throw all around him he striking out last two hundred twenty eight percent clip after thirty three percent for two years so i like moncada aw i would take him as a top seventy guy. I got to see how he finishes before. I can really move much higher than that though yeah. I think that's fair to aces looking looking like things are going to be better. Garrett cole was scratched with a hamstring but he is feeling better still unknown if it's going to be an eye ouston but then a groin excuse accuse me growing growing growing growing growing for garrett cole but then the ron boy the back muscle for max scherzer. He says he's ready to return with these two guys <hes>. I guess guess what i'm really looking for is not so much about their outlook here because obviously once they're back. You're putting them in your line up. You need them but for next year. Where do you have sherzer in coal because i did my top thirty. Yesterday i had shares her to coal four with the one caveat that kohl resigns in houston he would be my number one. Wow oh. I don't know i'm saying like that is like some hot. Take or something or i'm taking back. My i have no problem. It's just everything that they've done because you look at the top of the heap right. Now is very lender sherzer degrom for me. They're all bit older so gimme the younger guy who's doing the same thing but if he leaves houston i got to have a little bit more trepidation an kinda keeping more in the four five six range depending on how cole bueller sale finish out doc where where do you stand with and co for next year probably one for me okay so maybe the coles one for me just because we finally have seen a little kind of chink in the armor of of of yasser max is human believe it or not weird right. He's had a few deal. I l stints this year so beat himself up with the bun <hes> first rounders right and a fifteen teamer yeah yeah probably i would think so right and sure <hes> even sale and you're in some leagues i think candy. I don't think all six are going to be first rounders unders but i think those are your first round pitchers. I think if you're if you're moving up for me my next three are bieber club insurance josh. I think if you're moving them up to the first round. You're trying a little bit too hard i think. Are you going to take a pitcher in the first round next year. I think that becomes the the the more important question because they may be going in the first round but that it doesn't mean we're taking him there correct and i would take cole if he was there around like a ten pick if i'd picked ten. I don't think there's any chances her her car especially if he goes back to houston zero chance so i think the bottom line answering your question without caveats probably not is he a for robin cole a first rounder founder if he goes to new york probably even more so for some people because of the yankee tax. Your question is more. Should he be and i'll say yes still i think he's still should be but i will say. That's the exact kind of landing spot that would push me down a little bit. You know how feel about guys with their first year of a giant deal in a new spot. There has been some research on it to blake murphy to s._p. For me where you found that they are a bit worse. Some of that is the normal regression of coming off of a big this season to even earn the type of contract that you have but i just like a year settling not everyone peels back. Patrick corbin's been excellent. He's he's also been the third dog on the team. Cole would be going there to be the guy and he's second dog to overland right now which i'm not making any comments on saying he can't be top dog. I'm saying there's pressure at that and we don't know how a guy deals with it. So if code does go somewhere like new york or boston went crazy one of the big market teams where he has to be top dog i would i would pull back as far as drafting him for twenty twenty. I wanna see the adjustment year. He's never pitched in houston. John sorry in in new york against the say. I i really think he has since just the ninety seven degrees in my office go to sleep get off my back but <hes> yeah so he was just garrett. Cole was <hes> after by them and then decided go to u._c._l._a. So the fact he's never pitched. He might do it in the playoffs and then we'll get to see what's what i believe. He's he's an absolute stud. I love him but i really just hope be stays in houston and he'll be my number. One guy <hes> speaking of potential first rounders for nicotine's junior back injury aiming for friday returned nothing too crazy there so that's why we're not so focused focused on the injury and more looking ahead. I think i did ask you this already but i forgot the answer so i'll just be honest about it when we were talking some twenty twenty two stuff is totti's a first round for next year. He's going to be close. I mean he's going to be in a lot of first round. He might have first round a._d._p. V._p. It's more of whether or not just in mason he gets there. It's gonna be very very close for me. I i know the batting average is is going to tail off. I don't think anybody's expecting him to hit three hundred next year but it doesn't have to crater either because if he improves the strike because he's twenty he can't drink yet. He hasn't had a chance to go crack open a beer pop open baseball's baseball savant and realized that he needs to maybe swing less. I i mean you can do that without the beer but you need the beer to vertically. That's just how it works science science right there so until you can legally do that we have. We have to give a chance to at least improve on his own here so again. I think he's going to track very close to a first around eighty p. I won't be afraid to do it. I don't know that i currently have him as a top fifteen. If i'm just eyeballing it he's damn close like you said. Don't i know it's a a little bit of a cop out that we're just saying he's he's close instead of committing one way or the other but he's he's excellent fernando. Tateishi juniors absolutely excellent the bat who was a <hes> very very low on him coming. They don't ever bring that up online no now but the bats arrest season projections haven't finishing with thirty thirty one twenty season gross there now the highest by the way the bats now the highest and you know listen. I buy like derek. I talk with them. I understand and his process you know acting like he goes in and says. I hate from entities junior. Let me push down his numbers as opposed to talking about him with his system and actually having a human conversation with senators being a dildo about it <hes> i like that the system moves though and when it does get new information particularly on rookies now he's out in front so he might start behind with some of these but he wants to see. What's what are the bat you know the system system does but then when you put in the information of three hundred and seventy two major league plate appearances of excellence now the bats like yeah. This guy is good. We just didn't know yet because because he had fifty billion percent strike coury yeah. I mean the more projects to some guests to see a player. They're going to have better and more accurate information. I mean i. I like derek a lot too. I think he's one of the nicest people in the industry. <hes> and i've always enjoyed hanging out with him. When i've had the opportunity so <hes> i think he gets unfairly treated win. His system is down on a player. It's it's the same it's the same type of person like like bill ripken on m._l._b. The investors in that points out every time the shift doesn't work. Nobody's saying it's a hundred a percent. I think that derek himself understands that it's light on rookies and something needs to be done about that because the game has changed. He got he got he. When the bat had just twelve twelve homers projected for jordan alvarez you know and he has seventeen in forty eight games but now he's on he's in. He's the high man again to eighty. I five average is the highest ten homers are the highest one forty two of the highest so i don't think it's just like oh. I was wrong here. Let me overreact the other way again. I think it's the data i think the bat moves becker than other systems and i i liked that. I liked that they take the system in and they're ready to say okay we now. I'll see something about this guy. In the majors we can put that into the mix and give him a more stable projection. Yeah is he a first. I ran for you tease yeah. It's really close man. That's speed. I mean here's the thing okay well. What do you think totti's juniors batting average is is actually going to be here. Let's say he has eight between okay. If you're saying eighty than i have to because i can't one side of my mouth take trae turner earn the first round but not for nato totti's junior and i know that he hasn't put up quite of the same stolen base rate of turner yet but he's also put up more power so if you're just adding homers plus as bs it's right there and i do think turner still a first rounder so at that point if you're giving me a two eighty i was gonna say give me nia to seventy to eighty then yes. I am taking totti's junior in the first round because i think they're going to be better next year too. I think they are they're going to build on this year and we don't have dundalk conversation about whether they should have had tattoos and pat again but they're going to continue you know they're trying to open their window right now. They thought they opened it this year but even better next. I hear it's so hard because we just had a cautionary tale in that ronaldo. Kunia guy who i know it's just couldn't just couldn't didn't live up to the hype and what he did the previous year again yeah. I you know you talk about a kunia. I t's and that kind of class of player he he can not only build a rookie season but but greatly improve upon padres team's only gonna get better around him. Yep yep absolutely so well. That's been a news. He's here carlos carrasco. Obviously battling leukemia gonna face live batters fantastic news. I can't wait to see him get back. I really hope he gets back <hes> in in his able to pitch at points this year. Maybe pitching the playoffs for them. Let's assume he does all right. Let's assume <unk> has a rehab comes back decent september number quality you know he's himself for september in the playoffs at that point. Where would you rank carrasco because right now. I took kind of the easy way out of this. I'm just gonna park them in the honorable mentions. I gotta see what's going on. The gooky. Mia situation is the only concern right now. I don't care about fantasy until that's done but if we get clean bill of health and everything goes well. Where do you rank gresko next year as a pitcher. He's gonna be outside of my top twenty five okay <hes> enlighten thirty no probably not. I'd have to really sit down and kind of spot with this. I mean probably between thirty five and forty okay. Don't get me wrong. I hope he comes back. He's one of my favorite pitchers to watch. I was early in on the hype for for crass. Go that being said we're not talking about a guy who's had very good track record of health to begin with and we're gonna talk about guy who's going to be coming off a cancer treatments mints and chemotherapy and radiation or whatever they're doing for the leukemia and asking him to come back in a season a season after he's. He's only thrown sixty five innings and be an ace for us. I just think that's a really tall order in a lot to ask out of a guy. I'll be really interested to see where he goes. In drafts. Yeah i think so much of it is going to depend on this finish that he has in how healthy he is battling leukemia two then we can decide decide where carlos carrasco goes because if he does look like carlos carrasco that we know i think it will be top twenty five if he's more of a muted situation and has to miss time i'm again because maybe fatigue sets sets in that. I think people were really peel back and we'll have to see what happens for for twenty twenty but hoping for the best with with them great pitcher seem all all reports suggest great guy as well just hoping that everything comes through with regards to the to the leukemia four are carl's crafts go. Let's talk about a few performances now and some more twenty twenty outlooks actually is an before. It's like my favorite thing. I don't know why but right <hes> when i go on somebody's baseball reference page happens to be their birthday this aaron deputy evidence is so fun for me. I don't know i'm lame. I this is the stuff i enjoy. It's josh expels birthday. <hes> so happy. Birthday is twenty seventh birthday. Do you know that even with the big wall that he had he still leads baseball with ninety arabise and he was he was trashed for a little minute there nothing you know. I don't want to overstate it but he was. He was in his slump which he was bound to hear me he had. I'd like a five million okay so he was basically came out of the all star break and i'm sure i'm sure the homerun derby ruins you clowns sounds. Were just salivating over themselves about how how i was right. He had a one eighty to ninety six to forty six with no homers in his i seventy one plate appearances out of the all-star break for josh bell and took them through july thirty first in nine august games three forty four four forty seven seven thousand one with four homers including those four homers coming in the last three games a two one in one. He is electric again now again again. Let's keep them on like a normal trajectory. Let's say he finishes with a nine sixty. Five p. s. like forty one homers bunch bunch of a bunch of a bunch of runs. Where's josh bell next year who i think he's probably going to go in the second round amount. I don't know that i will be willing to necessarily take him there because of performance our first base or what visit because you coming into the year i loved him but i especially love this value and there's just no trillion that his value value is so low that i forgot him on the first base preview if you'll remember so we had to bring them up in a special segment and we were positive but we did not see this. Oh it was mostly league ariel cohen. He went off yeah he he. He identified him as the top bargain. If seasons if alex gets mcneil area gets that kind of situation i don't know maybe i shouldn't be so worried that he's going to take biggest back in power it just it just so hard to see him hit forty here after he hit twelve so i know what was so annoying that he had twelve after twenty six homers because he played you know even forty fewer plate appearances that does not cover fourteen fewer homers for josh bell so it was very frustrating and he's pacing for forty four now. It is his age twenty seven season. It is the all age twenty seven break. Raise your hand if you've been in fantasy long enough to remember when that was at the thing that's been blown out of the water by age curves now. I just figured if we're going to talk about the the homerun run derby effect to might as well twenty seven things so we have a breakdown of the verduci effect look great. That's yeah so second round. I think you're right. I am willing to take him there depending on how my first round goes what my what my team plan is. I'm open to this because bell makes good contact takes. This is walks <hes>. We saw flashes of the power before. I don't think it's just ball related of course that helps him. I think he is taking advantage of it but a switch hitter with this kind of power even even in a park that suppresses it going actually age it will be twenty seven because he just turned twenty seven today the cutoffs july first. I'm going going to be in on it. Next year is twenty-seven this is technically. We haven't even gotten the power jump yet. Have we fifty six homers homer next. Get ready for it all right here we go. Who would you rather have josh bell or freddy freeman. You know i kind of knew you were going to say that and i really hate because that's very difficult. I think i have to go freeman because bell wants to be freeman and freemuth already there here with several years of this excellence. He's only going to be thirty which is not. I'm not scared of a thirty year old. That team is silly a kunis getting a lot of the hype very deservedly but don't look now at at what are always is doing. He's at two ninety nine fifty four five zero five with what he's been doing. Your favorite guy dancy swanson still been positive josh donaldson speaking good and i think austin riley will be fine in the long term. He was overly electric. When he first came. He's been completely awful. Sent then and now on the i l. he's going to be somewhere in the middle next. I think he'll be like a what one fifteen one twenty ninety five range opium plus w._r._c. plus kind of guy next year with power so it's gonna be a good law. Do you know by the way he's going to get a second this year but it's only his second one one hundred rabi season for freeman. Wow which is why you have to be careful overly using our to mentor a guy because if you would say that he's bad had because of that for any reason teams has been bad exactly. Would you rather have josh bell or peter lonzo. I have come around on the poor but i'm gonna go bell on that. One okay the josh you. He doesn't look like a polar bear. Josh bear <hes> josh beckett spell or one soto hole that one that one's tough they go about it a little bit differently but i think the net value is very similar. I think i give the batting average stability. If i'm doing a project i'm gonna go soeda a little bit more and he has that chip and speed this year ten home or ten steals in tries had five last year in one hundred seven sixteen games so we knew that soto could could give you a little bit out of a chip in there and he's going to be twenty one next year. I love bella. Bama goes soto there yeah. I'm just surprised is that that soda has ten stolen bases. I think he had four of them in a game so that elms ten for eleven though it's not like the jeff mcneil contribution asian which is four for nine or even diverse is like nine for seventeen so really still forming. He didn't miss remembering numbering that so yeah. He's all once based games. That's just been chipping in little by little throughout the season just quietly doing doing his wants to. He's not a guy that speed necessarily either so i don't know smartvestor any basis with smart based learning and want sort of showing that so no shade on bell but i'm going to go soto their buy buy buy an inch and i'm probably have them very close to each other in composite ranking for sure. Let's move on here. Let's go and jose ramirez. Obviously we've talked about a lot this year but for once not once i guess we have recently though to or finally talking about in very positively and he couldn't be hotter right. Now i mean he absolutely looks like the guy who was drafted number three overall by so many folks he's clicking. I swear i watch a lot of indians games because they've been playing like like minnesota in boston and so i like to watch you know teams that are a both playoff caliber going ahead when i'm not watching the tigers and and so he's going off now and it's not just like a short little run here. We're talking about forty four games. One hundred eighty seven point parents for jose ramirez with a three twenty three fifty the eight six fifty one line twelve homers which is a forty five homer pace for where he's at seven steals which would be paid to twenty-six over a full season ramirez mirror looks like he's figured things out again with his power and that was really what was missing batting average too but the power was was absent it was gone and now he's back up to seventeen homers already. Is there a way that jose ramirez rallies enough to where you'd take them in the first round next year. That's that's the class <unk>. We're gonna be here yup man. I think i don't i don't. I don't think that's possible. I guess it is his as right. Now is twenty five thirty thirty five just with the bad to forty seven average but at twenty five thirty five if that's what he finishes at two fifty-five batting outing average if totti's is a potential first rounder house jose ramirez not if he ventured strong exactly. We're doing these challenges to ourself. Hey yeah you're right. If this talent pro does occur first round we really are right because there's so many interesting bats right now too and then it goes back to is your question about the pictures in the first round. Maybe you do dig because they're so. You're going to get such an brilliant second round hitter. Maybe you do go with garrett cole at pick. You know oh six because when you come all the way back you're still going to be choosing between one soto and josh bell for your first hitter or a ramirez. I'd even father you don't have. That's what i wanna on a c. Two i almost don't want to draft him because i wanna see what the market does without me taking him. That's a that's a good point and then that's always a really good strategy for or your first few mark drives is don't. Don't be the guy like in the office. Some guys really interested to see what the market does. Is it too early mugs. I think alive times industry guys wanna set the high pick on a guy. I've been guilty. I've absolutely been guilty but it's actually better to let someone else. Do it. Kinda wanna see where we had a few years ago when i did it. I was in every single mock draft and i took startling martin in like three of the four mocks we did and they totally totally ruined his a._d._p. Because i was the one taking him yeah that's is so duly influence. That never really got a vibe of what the market wanted on him so but it's it's one of those things where it's taught me. It's like okay. Mock drafts are about seeing where other people are valuing things not wear. Necessarily you are so you can write down. Who you you would've taken but sometimes it's better especially with. These guys like ramirez to see where he's gonna fall. I mean right now. In the second half so far he's got ten homerun six stolen bases hidden three twenty three forty six six eighty cheese the six because if he's not if jose ramirez is not hitting a double one. I look up and see him. It's a it's a homer. It's an extra base hit yeah. I'm telling you he's lacing things left and right every time i will you wanna talk about just being a pure hitter. <hes> his contact percentage in the second half is ninety percent. He's zone zone. Contact percentage is ninety six point eight percent if you throw the ball in his own jose ramirez is going to hit it and somehow went over for today so whoever that picture was. Let's get him a cy young because he stopped. He's not funny because if it was i'm going to have yeah we we haven't had a long silence in a while so i'm glad we raise stopping dead in my tracks. Johnny whole staff game bryan bryan johnson marcus marcus walden darwin's hernandez josh taylor nathan evolved who actually got the dub andrew cash ner brandon workman and so they pitched a hell of of a game bieber pitched on by the two runs and he gave up those alone would have been enough because they only scored one but then nick goody got bullets a little bit so it's a five one loss but anyway jose ramirez is okay. Let's let's assume that he won't get a first-round a._d._p. Barring just like literally keeping his second half pays for the rest of the year because then bottom line i would be too good <hes> let's say he does finish kind of like with the elite counting stats but but a two fifty average and so you a._d._p.'s around the second round does he become a target for ramirez then somebody who like i gotta get him at pick twenty to twenty. Let's call. I mean you have to use only gonna be twenty seven next last year and we just discussed about the twenty seven year power. It's guaranteed for performance to yeah. I'm going to be back in if if he's going in the second round and i think they're going to be people especially. The beauty is people starting to perform right. Now is <hes> it's hidden in football yeah. The football guys aren't around so though i think there's also been a little bit of <hes> in recent years of almost it's like a backlash and a._d._p. To that only because we guys like a mongoose type off so i in terms of a._d._p. Coming into next season. I almost wonder if it's football guys going back through the second half numbers to see what they missed and now we need to. I let me talk about this. Yeah don't and then you know. Hey don't let this be hidden. This guy was amazing in the second half. Let's get his a._d._p. A._d._p. Backup instead of letting letting people sleep on him and ramirez could be that guy because remember what happened with moncey. He started taking off around august. He he became kind of you. Know chic guy that a group of people were in on and then he just kept too damn good to where nobody nobody was hidden hidden on mondesi even if you are big time football guy who just asked out on your leagues in august because he had to start focusing on football you still knew that modesty was just too legit because he went off and had a second round a._d._p. For crying out loud so that could happen. I do wonder where this the guy will go. He hit six he had six hit yesterday including four doubles and it wasn't an extra inning game. It was just a run of the the mill nine inning game was ten dammit either way <hes> still amazing six for six with four doubles for rafael devers excellent work on him. He now has the m._l._b. Most hits and one hundred and fifty eight the m._l._b. high in doubles at forty three three a._l. High of ninety three rabies and m._l._b. high of eight caught stealing as i mentioned earlier eight for sixteen is his as his stolen base but they let the twenty two year old rafael devers keep running every once in a while. I'll take the chickens because mostly still don't use nets deal so i don't care i'll l. As long as they keep giving them like a yellow light to to get those japan's i'm here for but let's focus on the power output and the big breakout here for rafael devers this this this is chocolate for best shape of his life because that was a big story about how he cut wait. He felt he was carrying too heavy last year and he slimmed down down and he looks like the guy who was a mega project talk to me about raphael denver's in his twenty twenty outlook. I wonder if i think we were we're seeing the beginning. Just it's the tip of the iceberg in terms of his breakout like i think i think there is a forty home run potential in his bat. I was just about to say i. I think there are multiple thirty thirty. Five one hundred seasons basically like a j._d. Martinez at on the infield right now and they'll probably move forward. I eventually but that's the kind kind of that's the kind of impact bat. I'm looking at here with j._d. Himself which will keep their runs in rb is boosted. I mean i think theoretically i mean wins. Moorlands lind's contract of next year. I think it could be as early as next year. You think they'll probably keep him yeah. They'll probably keep deep dover's there at least one more season but i think they've got a couple of guys in the minor leagues who are third baseman that are interesting and like nick nor cut cut <hes> so but i think he's probably a season or two away. <hes> yeah i just i think he is is. I think we're gonna be talking about him. In the same vein that we're talking about josh bell and then go go on soda <hes> yeah in one soda so we're talking about a guy who is probably going to be a fourth round pick going into next year. That should deliver top two round talent or i oh i think i think the arezzo jona and maybe the too early mocks. He sits around for third but then by draft season. He's going to be a fringe second. Rounder under rafael devers is so that's where i see it going and i'm willing to pack. It's a it's a high freight for what it is but this was this was heralded prospect as well. I do believe in in pedigree and and guys panning out to where they are didn't wanna freak out when he had a mediocre year last year twenty one year old holding his own. I know it wasn't great right but he held his own for four hundred ninety appearances. I saw no reason not to buy in then you learn about the way you feel even more confident that there's a tangible change to things too and rafael devers has been excellent so i agree somewhere in that second fourth-round range depending on your league and all that but i would any of those prices right now last guy. I wanna talk about yuli gurriel. He was a late addition to this because the more frequent homers now unlike all these other amazing guys have been talking about. He's not some young up and coming back. He's he's a thirty five year old first baseman who was supposed to be going back to something we talked about earlier that late batting average type he doesn't cost too much. You know we kind of reminded me of his is pre free 2017. Excuse me pre twenty eighteen david peralta where you weren't seeing a whole bunch of power but you're getting that batting average with the little contribution of power but then all the wind hit thirty homers last year and now gary l. has become like he's taking the same trajectory but coming into the air pre two thousand eighteen politics now it seems to just be like regular old david peralta and by the way i'll mention david birthday. I just went on his page and i just saw it on on his on his birthday happy birthday. This is a big day for for baseball players. Apparently clearly it's also giovanni goggles his birthday. You might as well get all the guys who are active right now. It's just those dylan covy but anyway yuli gurriel heels birthdays six nine it it is he shares my mom's birthday. Mom understands the greatness of her birthday. I not know abbott in two thousand five homers now for yuli gurriel. How could i is there any way. I could have gotten to believe that that was going to be his home. Run output this year. What what would you incentivize. Eh told me we're playing with bouncy balls this year. I would have been like all right sure why not i mean that's all this is playing one hundred eighty nine games for some jason yeah. We're we're. We're we're playing in playing with balls that just are not fair to pitchers and so that's my my biggest issue with a guy like your yell is what happens when they're if they fix the ball extra because what we saw when this happened in two thousand seventeen was that in two thousand eighteen they came out with a more regular ball and so i would really expect them to do the same coming coming into two thousand and twenty. Here's one reason i think you're protected from that. Though with gergo specifically he's old fantasy market hates old guys. This is being thirty six will mitigate the hype of what's going to be like thirty thirty three homer summer or higher. Even perhaps like thirty three home run season the fact he's gonna be thirty six next year will mitigate that if he's around pick what if i give you pick one eighty or later where you angry then i'd be totally down for that just because he offered batting average in exactly because he just this goes back extra batting average these days it goes back to hit you know quote unquote just hitting two nine with fifteen homers and that's only one hundred thirty nine in one hundred thirty six games. That's kind of his pace in seventeen and eighteen if he does one hundred fifty games. You're talking like to ninety and twenty so south s._p._n. Player ater for first base this year. Give us some info. I'm sure that's what cody bellinger obviously number one freddy eddie freeman number two and then it goes all over the place de la mayhew is the third player he does grow and you could almost make a case depending on how your team structure is that you might be better off using digital may ask. I carlos santanas v. I love l. Yuli gurriel is six. Danny santana's seven. Oh my god that's crazy. Dude and gurriella reality probably going to move up a spot from two homers say you might leapfrog santana. That's an whereas lonzo. He's gotta be top ken eighth and then rizzo manzini who claim any. I wrote about him. In the i think the rodeo ride up recently and it just putting together a quietly excellent season here he really is and i got imagine hundred christian walker they start to pop maxson san jose abreu and dosier walker hosmer is fifteenth gross. You don't get the paul goldschmidt until seventeen. Reese hoskins is twenty. I did you did you skip gallo or has fallen that allo aloe is twenty seconds. That's a bummer man he was going to that breakout was awesome thirty. I damn joey motto thirtieth sucks. I mean such a bummer dude year boy dell com- brera <hes> is forty third who would ever draft him. You have to be so stupid to do that. Oh wait i did so first base got better on the fly but similar to like catcher but obviously a little bit more name value. It was different fifty ninth see we knew it. That's why we said faded. We told you you take a year to pan out sure but like hey man we don't have the timetable on everything speaking about taking too long to pan out a right above <hes> matt carpenter your boy jake bowers desperately bring. We're having a good show yeah. I know it's just i feel like we started on such a high note talking about my win in the f. as in <hes> in megan just i needed to crush you. That's rude rude absolutely well. I'm bringing up again that you foolishly didn't put your beasley lineup into three dollars thing where you could have won a couple hundred dollars and all your daughter a gift or something that you're going to skip out on her birthday and let's be honest. You're gonna skip out more because this could be a yearly thing if they move this. If that timing coming lines up because i know colette hasn't seen a halloween from one of his kids and i don't know how long you've only been two birthdays in like like a little on twitter there you go mrs halloween with both keys and the daughter's birthday so you both you're both going to be never met mrs colette ah but i can tell you my wife will castrate me if the if i missed too many birthday yearly especially once they you know this man done type of situation unless they moved the you've got you've got an i._b._m. L._b._j. Move it back to where it was for crying out loud. I don't even understand why they would it makes the playoffs. It makes absolutely no sense. I don't wanna get into it. I'll get fired up plus. Get ready for trivia but great showed they great job with your lineup yesterday so excited that we're going to be hanging out and just two months now almost two months to the day to be quite honest. It's right around this middle of the month time here so that's going to be excellent. Do you want to do a twenty twenty draft soon where we do the first maybe two or three eight rounds. I think that would be interesting thing to do with a guest. I fully agree with that. Uh we we should get someone. We have on the show before. I have some folks in mind we shall talk via text all right. Let's do that. I have a whining charlotte ready to eat. You gotta get ready for trivia just she has been on the show charlotte. You're always show you're not you can't drought. She says she has some good picks but she can't be on. We'll have a guest for that. We will be back early next week talk. It's more baseball justin <music>.

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265: Rob Bradford on slow start to season and what's next: Featuring Jerry Narron

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265: Rob Bradford on slow start to season and what's next: Featuring Jerry Narron

"Or let's do this thing. It is episode number two six five. Red Sox beat. This is Josh Lewin and I guess on the one hand. Isn't it nice that we baseball to talk about? Family very excited that we have actual ballgames and standings and whatnot on the other hand at the time of this recording. Cova has reared its ugly head, and the MARLINS size. You may have heard. They are quite infected, and everything seems to be a little bit up in the air, but isn't that what twenty twenty is all about on the program today trying to get you to smile just a little bit other than just thinking. Hey, there's baseball back WANNA. Try to make it as normal as possible for you going to dig out from our Spring Training Archives and interview done with of the new coaches. WHO's a really good guy? Jerry Narron bench coach in a very interesting year. With Ron Reynecke. Having this thing all himself now, and it's not that he can't do it alone, but it's nice to have someone who's a veteran to have your back in between Jerry. Narron Iran Reynecke I. Think they got a lot of good things there in that Dugout, the season itself hasn't started so great I don't think that's Jerry's fault. I think that's Ron's fault. We'll get into all that in a minute, but we also have. Maybe this is where we get and Rob Bradford. The Great Rob Bradford will join us w. e Dot Com and the Bradfo show see he's got a podcast to, but not doing currently with that. We do this every week because. Doggonit were committed here, or we should be committed with with all. That's going on. Let's take this kind of brick by brick before we get to Bradfo here. It dawned on me as I saw the bugs. Bunny turns eighty this week. I can't stop thinking about the meme that I'm sure you've seen to. It's a great bugs bunny classic where he just takes a saw and right at the Florida panhandle just. Saws it off and pushes it right under the Atlantic. See later Florida. I'm kind of their exasperation. Wise myself right now, not a big Florida Fan. Even one is going well, but if you'll allow me to be slightly political here I, don't mean to bring you down, but look the expectation and. Baseball and the nation's response to the pandemic I just think very sadly similar. There's all kinds of writing on the wall. That is going to be difficult and it's GonNa. Be Sad and untrue. American spirit in idiocy. We all go. It'll all work out. The president, said someday this will all just magically go away. I think with baseball. We did that a little bit trying to start the season again not to be controversial or difficult, but we just kinda shocked and said let's play I. Mean Yes, there are protocols. There's plenty of protocols. But how do we really think this was going to go? And I bring that all up because I think with the Red Sox just in terms of the ability on the field I think we all did a lot of that to the fact that they lost two out of three to Baltimore to start the year. Of course, it's very disappointing, but. You really that surprised. If you really really put your head on this here. There's no Chris Sale. There's no Iran right now. There's no David Price. You were going to have Nathan of all the and a lot of what's next, I mean. We knew that going in. If anybody was going to not hit right away, it was going to be difficult if the bullpen was going to not be great away. It was difficult I. As we record this here. They're one and two and I know Baltimore with the opponent, so it really shouldn't be but. I'm not completely knocked over surprised. I'm just not. The deal is you don't have to be great to make the playoffs this year. You could really win twenty eight twenty nine thirty games at a sixty, and because sixteen thirty teams make it. You could actually be okay, so see that's the positive spin that I'm putting on this. We'll get to rob. Bradford talk a little bit about all that in just a moment of course Jerry Narron as I mentioned. Hey, whispered, trying to come back your chance to bet on them with our exclusive. Exclusive wagering partner, but online DOT AG. That's here as well MLB for now is in full swing, no shortage of ways to get in on the action, but online as all the odds, all the future's all the props for you to bet on and sports start to return, but online sat down with Eddie George from the NFL Robert Horry seven time NBA, Champ Harold Reynolds for baseball, yet their opinions on what it will be like playing without fans and what they have called fan so. Check that out. Go to bed online dot. AG check out all the odds and up-to-date sports news? Don't forget to sign up. Take advantage of all the welcome back to sports. Running out bed online your online wagering experts all right. Let's get this thing going. It's going to sound very different momentarily, because instead of doing normal recording. This is all on the phone. Because we live any zoom, slash cell phone conversation world now I can't just roll up on Rob Bradford and knock on his door ready. Let's go to the phones now and you can hear. It sounds like a phone well. Let's bring on Rob Bradford Bradfo show hi cast. Dot Com longtime newspaper reporter, knowledge of many things, stock, past, present and future, well great to have you happy reports. You has now without the corona virus, but like everyone else. I'm sure you can't stop looking over your shoulder especially after the news about the marlins outbreak, and I guess we all knew it was just a matter of time, but we were. We were hoping the time wouldn't be four days in the. Ti. You're up in good to talk with each other again and. You're right I mean day to day I. think that that's why everybody anybody who looks at a week from now a month from now. You know it's not it's crazy to do that. It's we're living our to our and particularly as we talk right here, we're living our tower with all. The news is coming out May in baseball. Because when we woke up this morning, certainly we thought on. Things are trending in the right direction oh. Yeah, you have the here and there, but the there's not a major problem baseball handling it pretty well, and then boom comes the latest roadblock Yeah, so it's. It's You really really can't just assume anything I. Guess you know I. I can't stop thinking about. How here's what? Battling Myocarditis, which is the inflammation of the heart muscle quantity caused by viral infection and a Lotta complications coming out of that we're all just kind of sitting around footling thumbs like filming each GonNa be okay. One you hearing about Iran and obviously season without him back. I mean you're. Already. Yeah well, it goes through one lines. What I'm saying about you know we can't even project you know. Pass today and I think that people aren't looking at the wider Rodriguez. In the correct way it's myocarditis is I actually had this, and it's when I had pneumonia, and as viruses do that. A of times lead to Myocarditis, which as you said a taxi the lining the heart? Heart inflammation of the heart, and it's something where you obviously have to be careful, because it's hard, it's a no brainer, and then it's something that you have to monitor and something you have to take care of and there's a reason why he isn't doing anything for a week. Because you have to let the let the enzymes in the down, you have to let the inflammation go. GO DOWN! This isn't available. This isn't a shoulder. This is in the knee. This is the heart and I I think, and I'm shocked honestly just to using opting out, I like if anybody has liked. Opt Out of this thing like I'd WanNa Rodriguez does said yesterday. No, it was scary thing when he heard about it, and he's still scared, but at least he knows what it. It is so to think about how it might impact the red sox. It's crazy. I mean I think the Red Sox have to go into the season thinking that you don't have any water, Rodriguez and in you know if you get 'em okay fine as long as he checks out, but right now you know I can't imagine that he's going to be coming back anytime soon. I've been trying so hard not to use the phrase whistling past the graveyard, because as your connote death, but in so many ways and I don't mean to turn it off political. I already have a podcast and I apologize people. Aren't we not just as a society, but especially specifically in baseball, doing a lot of that I mean just kinda hoping for the best, and then you know kind of shrugging and saying you know it's just. There's a horde of us all I think that as much as we want to see games in fenway here over beyond the air on TV here the radio guys, it's like what are we doing? Yeah. I totally agree and I think it's. It's gone to the point where we were, we were almost. The fact that Oh one soda can can come down with cove in nineteen two hours before the opener. We can still play baseball because we handled it so well. No, we know we. We shouldn't dismiss. Diminish the whole. Cova thing and I think that we have where we've been telling yourself into not trying to saying well, these guys are young guys these are. Are Athletes well if you get it. What's the big deal? I've heard that, Josh, my radio too many times well. What is these guys doing nothing out? What are they talking about? You know they don't have to worry about it. They're not in that demographic, which should really worry about the the causing fact of Covid nineteen, and then you have the reality of. Rigas which is. It's a reminder that number one. There are other things besides this age number two. There are a lot of things that we don't know I can tell you right now. That you this Myocarditis, it's something that probably it wider because we'll have to live with the rest of his life, and it stems from Kobe nineteen and there's other things that we don't even know about that allows. These players are young people in their kids. Kids and their families are at risk for because of Kobe nineteen, and that's why I think it's becomes very very slippery slope when we try to the paint, a pretty picture on baseball's back and everything great, it's I'm happy. Baseball's back I think that there especially being around the Red Sox I think they're doing a really good job of doing everything they can, but once again. We can't diminish what we're dealing with here. The Great Rob Bradford spending some time with us, I'm trying my best to get. The pendulum swung over to talk just an actual baseball whether it's almost like I feel like. I'm dragging the pendulum. Down! We're rich here, but. I guess this is gallows humor too i. just found it funny that the guy they just claimed off waivers actually deem dot 'cause. It's like stocking up on the best mediocrity that they can find here i. mean do any of these guys have any our rate of under five? Ever that they're picking up and I know a lot of the time bloom to. You know if we did in Tampa Bay, you throw a hundred guys against the wall and two of them stick. You're a genius, but between Stephen, gun, solvents, and dot, and You know even that Goddamn. That couldn't make the Tigers so again I finish I. go right back to the same phrase, Roberts like what are we doing? SINICA realist and I think that you know you mentioned. You mentioned that doing covy. Dylan Kobe was another one, which he actually threw in a game which were in a game which they were still in. Though. He hadn't pitched a one single second for the Red Sox and coming up a year where you have an over seventy or for the white sox and and so. It drives I gotta be honest. It drives me nuts because. This is sort of the way the baseball is going in. aquisitions are going I understand like you. You take a flyer and some guys listen the Red Sox you're you saw these guys? The Red Sox have Marcus Walden. They have Ryan Brazier. They have these sort of guys because that approach, but they didn't put stock in them right away. Hey go get him down to in the second game of the year. And what is a pretty big game and come through? Even though we don't really know what you're all about, they didn't do that. What's happening? Baseball more and more is these places these GM's in these executives instead of going off from what these guys have done in the past. They're saying well. If we keep tweak this and we do this. We think that you're going to be really really good and we'll. We'll figure it out and and you know what sometimes it works, but it's not something you build a team off of and right now the. More more times and not with the red sox entire pitching staff. That's exactly what they're doing. Team Peretz. There's another one. The Guy hit the highest whip in baseball and use your number two starter, so it is, it is maddening so far. I I don't mean quote, coldplay, can I hate cold play that whole thing about finding out your capital stand up tellers, assault sellers of standard I commutable, and it is precisely that thing and you know even before the pick ups. I mean I'm looking at his military hostess and Hall isn't Exactly Fun Insane and pray for rain rather. Ocean, Hall and head to the mall or something. Like that it's it's not patent. It's going use it, but. I do not however in reading your fine work. W. E. I found it interesting backstory on this on this Guy Robert, stock. Would you mind sharing? Yeah so this rumors talk I. Falls baseball I feel like I should have known who Robert Stock was after looking back into his backstory, because he was evidently the best thirteen year old in the country, according to baseball, America he went to USC as a sixteen year old went there, and basically taking south out of the draft, so he was, he was a star USC being a second round pick for the cardinals and he was a catcher. Catcher Piston car, and then he was a catcher when they signed him. That didn't really work out the two thousand fourteen games a pitcher that didn't work out, so he bounces around a little bit and up in an independent ball, and it was okay, but still doesn't get any interest. This is about two thousand seventeen. So what happens is he goes in with a video camera with his wife and and take. Take some video of him. Throwing Ninety eight mile an hour, fastballs and Scottsdale at a park, and and off of that he gets signed by the reds, and then off of that the stint with the leads he he makes the padres last year. The majorly I'm sorry in two thousand eighteen, and they make the opening day roster last year with the Padres, and now listen I mean he was, he was like Oh! Oh by the picked up on waivers by the Phillies, the Padres, and then he was designated once again by the Phillies, so it's not like Robert Stock is story is like Rich Hill. You know it's this is this? There's still a ways to go, but it is interesting. Considering how highly touted this thirteen-year-old was and all of a sudden the thirty year old you through the Red Sox with pretty interesting backstory. I guess that is the one good thing about picking up one guy after another. You just don't know you're still good at you. Know of ferreting out back stories, and there's no shortage of that for you. The red the way to go at it and no shortages. If indeed they play a hope even. Because Obviously going from ten playoff team, sixteen more teams make it than don't make if this year you could go play four ninety ball and still have a shot to win. A world series is so I think the right doctor a very fortunate in that regard, you and I are talking right now. I'm looking at the standings where everybody's either to at one or one and two. There was A. Little Blip in time, where literally the whole league was basically hasn't record. You know nobody went through. Nobody went to win three so to me. It's almost emblematic of anything goes this year, right? We're hanging are open. Yeah Yeah, and then that that is the saving grace, but you know like you said before it's it's great, but then you look at. What you have coming up in terms of pitching matchups in terms of opponents for the Red Sox, and and also what you just saw I mean I think that if nothing else I would hope that run reinecke would take the last two games two losses against the Orioles. Take Him and learn from them because there was a lot to learn, this was for a gopher guy who's. WHO's been around baseball for a long time? The obviously knows a lot more about managing baseball team that I do, but this is different. This is a sixty game season and I. think that there are some lessons to be learned which he has to take into this week. they you know you have to adjust to this type of season I, said it on twitter Josh. If you hit a home, run your in the lineup the next day. I don't Care Mitch. Moreland hits a home run and the next day. They're putting Michael Ceva at first base Michael Tavis. Who Right now looks like a double a player? He can't hit anything and I cannot go so much on match up so much on analytics nearly as much as you would. In one hundred sixty two season. You have to ride the hot hand and I'm talking about you know leaving and right handed hitter interface right handed pitcher. That sort of thing, if that's some of the things that I think that I would that he he sort of just to as we go forward. I wasn't there? You were one of the jarring things I think this weekend. Just watching from afar was the stark reality. The number fifty is not in right field anymore hooky. We know is not going to be a red sox. Never again right I mean thirteen years, and there's only dollars that tells the tale La Dodgers, so we haven't had a chance to be when I to break that down yet, but emotionally just watching happy how content how satisfied lewke appears to be on the wrong coast as it were wearing blue, instead of red I mean it's like everything's opposite all of a sudden. How are you doing just kind of emotionally with with that piece? I you know I think there's a lot to pick through with the movie situation number one I think. He landed in a great spot for Mookie I mean I think they couldn't win in a better spot. You Know Josh like when these guys sign. These sort of contracts bryce Harper Machado is proud to wherever you know. They're expected to be the face of the franchise they're expected to. To go to the luncheons, they're expected to be out in front with everything. I don't think mookie necessarily wants to be that guy and even with his contract. I don't think he's going to be expected to be that guy with a dodger, so I think La's a perfect place for him and I and you know. He got out of Boston and he saw that he saw hey you. You know this is pretty cool. We I like this scene I like this environment I like this team like everything about it so is de seems like a good place to sign, and in terms like the the actual signing. You know we've heard from. mookie was business decision this decision that and you know what even though it was less than he was wanting maybe a year ago it. It wasn't business decision. Because the biggest form of currency right now it certainly, and certainly was what he got with the dodgers and okay, you can get four hundred million. Let's say that he got fifty million worth of certainty, so then then that comes out to three hundred and fifty six million. It was worth it for Mookie Betts and I think that he got the deal in. A really really good deal about it. Good at dealing as he got I think even season because it is one certain I'm happy for them I think the red sox now is going to be fascinating to see what the Red Sox do movie money their pilot cash so I if it wasn't a shock and and once again I'm really I'm happy for Mookie because you know he's. He's a dynamic player. It was a fun player to watch here, but this was inevitable. Rob And I hope the answer is no. That I the Red Sox. Going forward can be Kinda like the twenty twelve to twenty eighteen, or so phillies the two thousand fifteen to twenty, nine, thousand, nine, hundred twenty twenty tigers, the angel the entire decade last decade where they don't shy away from huge contract. They're trying to replenish their young talent base for they don't really do it. It's a long painful. Rebuild that you don't want to call that. You just Kinda spin your wheels for a while, or are they at risk of being? I was saying to me. It's the phillies of maybe seven years ago. That scares me the most. I mean they're not going to be that team, are they? Know you know I don't think so. I think in I think a lot of people around here. We're giving them or give them a pass. Because they knew that you know this was all about setting the luxury tax, so you can spend money and it wasn't about spending money this off. He's in or this year. It was about really. What are you GonNa? Do like you said that Mukhi money what? What are you GonNa? Do without money or the once you get it and I will say this about ownership you know. They always have had one of the highest payroll now. They haven't always spend it wisely, but they've always had one of the highest payroll and I would imagine that they're going to free up to make some sort of move along those lines a lot of things you can do. Do, no I do do I think they should go out and sign George Springer probably not you know. Do I think they should sign Trevor Bauer now? Probably not, but you know maybe like you. You I Linda or a career the next year. Maybe you really have to prioritize spending a lot of slacking up Eduardo Rodriguez and Rafael. Devers is that sort of thing, so the first step is to. To get the money, and in one of the things that as we sit here and we, we begin the conversation about the state of baseball, and are they gonNA play the Red Sox desperately need baseball to play to get at least for the end of August because if they don't get the Vargas you, luxury tax doesn't reset and that's a whole another year of going through this sort of situation. From, like you saw over his first weekend. Robin I'm trying not to panic. I know it was the orioles in, and that hurts because right now looking, you know they're in first place or the Orioles but. Benintendi endeavors SORTA for eighteen nine right out through two games we saw over five or four points out Saturday forever. We'd never seen that game for him. Before. Everything's magnified right in two point seven thing you know I mean every you have it. All weekend like that. But who do you look at I? Mean I don't worry about Denver's to you. I don't kind of worry about Benintendi just because I'm nervous guy I haven't seen the you know. The full on Benny full season. Thing yet though. High on a low on any two months, it'll be able to have. Well. I don't know from high on this person or low in this person, but one of the most important people is GonNa. Be The mental performance coach, and because you know this is the person who is going to have to convince these guys. Hey, listen, don't overreact. Hey, Rafael Devers don't try too hard because you saw as well as I did Josh. You went he. He's a well meaning Kit and he wants to do really well, and sometimes the over swings, and and when you're getting sixty game season and all of a sudden you start off slow. Human Nature is to try too hard to get it back in a hurry. Same thing was Benintendi I've never seen him worth and he then he hasn't his first game. It was like you know for ten with five strikeouts, and he's not even close so when you get into this situation as you said the two point seven games, and and you start. Saying I don't have much time to get going. Going and if I don't get going and I do end up on these two month with an awful stat line that is gonNA paint how people view me and my career whether it's contractually or whether it's just overall perception you. There's a lot weighing on these guys and I think that that's sort of isn't isn't accounted for enough. How much this short season mentally is GonNa, take a toll on them. Last one for you and I want to try to keep it light because we're just surrounded by all of this move and doom. I is there a Rob Bradford? Cut Somewhere. You're wonderful. I. Wish Believe Me Josh I. Wish I could take a cardboard cutout of myself. Plant it in the press box and have him. Sit there through that Martine Peres game the other day. It just Oh, look it live. There's rob. He's working so hard you. Even though. Even though he city, he said he threw this awful awful performance Yeah, so I think we're onto something. Let Your one-dimensional stunt double, do it I don't know if you've ever family guy episode where we're Brian Creates or wants to create the double firm self-seeking. Do. We know that he can do all that nonsense like go to birthday, parties and whatnot. Yeah laugh laugh right now. That's all we got buddy. Red Sox. Fans do that I. Sure appreciate you. Thanks for spending time on red, sox always. Yeah always good time with Josh hopefully talk, soon. There it was hope you loved it. There was Rob Bradford interview in all its splendor. Now, let's move along. Let's make this podcast like everything's reasonably normal. Jerry Narron, gentlemen calligrapher bench coach did a bunch of interviews in spring training, figuring out, which is Kinda role in April or so you guys can get to know. Some of the New People Jerry. Narron is not new Jerry. Narron, was playing for the Yankees and the seventies, mariners, eighty and eighty one angels mid eighties. Of course he was on. On the other side of things and the eighty six, so yes, mariners again finished his playing career in eighty seven I knew. Jerry is a manager in the minor leagues in the nineties. He got to beat the Texas. Rangers manager in the early double owes the reds manager for a little while he's been benched coach, and base coach for a lot of different teams orioles. Rangers Red Sox for three. And if you don't remember that that's okay, reds, brewers, diamondbacks, and now once again the Boston Red Sox so without any further ado. Here's a little spring training sound for you with Jerry Narron. I'm actually GonNa Start with you, Jerry, since just posted line Fart, you would become known for your calligraphy. People will wear you out on, but my guess is if you didn't like. The the attention it comes with it. You'd probably stop doing it. You must enjoy the the quiet act of pending a lineup. Cardis Cathartic for you. Why do you keep doing it? Started doing it for one thing, I ever believed that whatever you do, the very best you can do. It doesn't matter how small it is I grew up with parents and said if you dig a ditch, be the best ditch digger. You can possibly but right so the lineup card. That's doing it the best. I can do it. The other thing was when I was a coach with the Orioles and early nineties. Johnny oates was very particular man, and he wants to make sure a lot of cars. Were you know look really good? And soldiers messed around with calligraphy. The one you just posted by a half doubt you on this. KANTA and a half his pitching for. Minnesota's were speaking. Did you know Japanese? Did you have to look that up? That is a perfect. If I googled it, you nailed Kanta Maya in Japanese or started when each year old I came over here, I saw each row, Ramon on some billboards in. Seattle and I thought man. That's pretty. And then the more guys summation that came over here became a little more difficult, but I'm not going to give up cigarettes allow. But usually I'll find somebody's interpreter. That's how I started and make sure it's right, only man in the world since right and Japanese easiest. Gary Narron so real quick for the people that don't realize, or maybe you're too young to remember this in two thousand three. You were part of the Red Sox and it was that was a pretty cool year didn't have quite the ending Ford did, but what are your memories seventeen years ago? Wow, what brings you back or great? Bunch of winning baseball players Sir Gaza came out every night got after you knew that nucleus was there to win, and it was just a matter of time when they put it together and and would win. Over Utah I went from there to Cincinnati the next year and partly out of my choice, partly not out of choice, but I just those guys that were here. You know they were GonNa win. It was a great group of guys who are the guys on the coaching staff. That were your guys who real guys in. My coverage coach Third Base Styles Williams. Was I Ron Jackson was a hidden coach up row house was. The bullpen coach. Tony. Cloninger who was sick, was the pitching coach Wallace Gaming. Of that group Jerry Houdini remain closely when you went to Cincinnati. Who did you make sure you stand with? Dr. To always stay close everybody if you see them in the game about baseball is, you can be away from somebody for seventeen years and you see again. It was like you never laughed. You know like Tim Wakefield Law in the clubhouse this morning. Avid really awake in a few years. You know we up until the yesterday. One thing about being a bench coach and it's like you've been hired to do down there. A lot of people I think Kinda regard that as some weird, like manager-in-waiting thing you know, he's got to be a delicate balance. You're not obviously you're not here to to vulture anybody's job. You're here to help but it's a weird kind of purgatory I've always thought I mean we have? Somebody gets kicked out of the game. You're up right. So how do you just compartmentalize World Ford? They are probably the only been coaching baseball. That does not Not Looking to be a big league manager. That is not my agenda. My agenda is to Help. The Red Sox very belts organization they can be. Very US club it can be, and that goes through. You know from the top to the bottom. So there and because I know you've been other places to people would say well. This guy's got so much experiencing. Is he just a the manager in waiting whether you're a hitting coach of bench coach at first base coach Is that something you feel like you have to fend off sometimes just in general. The people assume you want the big job. You Know I. Have had a lot of people say that you know about winning you going to manage again been scrolling, but no, not really. I'm telling you from artist. The best. Your memories of Arizona before i. Let you go you you. You're with some good people in the lottery. Sausage connected tissue between Boston and Arizona, but like that experienced a loved. It's you know one thing with the experience I, have you? Go from early in my career, not getting any kind of information and you know now later my career there's a lot of information coming down from the front office at all the group in Arizona, great, job getting down to the staff and US being able to communicate with the players, and for you know, I think anybody that stays around in the game. You doesn't matter where you are. What position you are! There's a lot about making adjustments and. And you know that's one thing I've been able to do is make adjustments in the game and use information we have, and I love were the game's going the direction quickly synthesize what is important. One is not because I've seen the stacks of paper you get in any not just the red sox or diamondbacks, but they'll give you amount of information. Does it take you a little less time now to quickly, say okay. This is pile a mile. The one thing about the information just over the last couple years you can tell what the players can really dodgy us and really take out on the field. That's Kinda helped me a little bit. But I, don't I? Don't mind that I, I love it. I get to the ballpark early, I'm you know I'm I watched the game yesterday morning early and. It's just part of it and I've been very blessed to stay in the game. Final thing for you is just kind of people magazine. He kind of thing is tell people. Something might not know about you off the field. What are your interests? We pursue your hobbies what you're netflixing whatever? God family job and sometimes I get them out of order, but that that is. Daughter's off the field and I've got children All over the world. It seems like I've got a family of one of my kids lives in. Israel. I've got one in Hawaii. Your husband's in the army and so I've gotta more different places in the world I've got a bonus on my stepson. I call him a bonus on is in south. Africa South Africa doing some kind of internship for mole rats out of the book. So I've got them all over the world, but it's God family job you are the most interesting man in baseball, said that for years. Welcome back anything. I there you go. There is Jerry Narron and his claim to fame you. Some of you might know. He was a backup to Thurman Munson with the Yankees Thurman died in that plane crash right around this time of year in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, nine, he was. The Jerry was the Yankees starting catcher the day after Thurman died, and he remained in the dugout during the pre game ceremonies left the catcher's position empty out of respect, which Yankee fans fondly remember him for he was traded to the mariners with some great names Wanda. The as Rick Anderson Jim Beatty for Jim, Lewis and the Great Rupert Jones. Then see a Rupert Jones reference before we say goodbye, we are going to say goodbye right now. Promising you more next week hopefully with more action, the mets of course of rolled into town. By the time you listen to, we might know if they beat the mets or not report. Selah will not pitch in this series because he got his bosoms blowing off. Against the Atlanta Braves. What was that score fourteen to one? He lasted two winnings, not a great first salvo from our dear Frederic Portillo, but anyway medicine town is your listening to this podcast and the red sox will go on from there. We'll break it down for you next time on red. 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"As someone who lives in breeze college football. I can promise you that this season will bring the mayhem. You'll feel it during huge wins and heartbreaking losses on Dame winning. Dr. Drives it in post game. Fender bender. This season teaming up with AllState highlight these key moments. The let fans know mayhem can show up on game day. Imagine what can happen the rest of the week for expert advice. Call your local agent today. Baseball tonight scoreboard BUSTER only, and this is the baseball tonight scoreboard for Monday Tober twenty nine two thousand eighteen coming up. The Red Sox jump on top early in game five of the World Series. Is they look back in role to another title. Let's get to it. The first page. What in eventful weekend in this World Series? The Red Sox playing in Los Angeles on Friday nights after eighteen innings five hundred sixty pitches. Seven hours and twenty minutes. This is what happened in the bottom of the eighth inning. Appear swinging high at center. I've only X Muncie. We said it about four hours ago that he's really do. Well, better late than never a must-win game. The dodgers did it done. Jan schoeman. Chris singleton with that call on ESPN radio and his max, Muncie rounded, the base and Nathan Foley who was working seventh inning of relief for the Red Sox. Walked off the field Red Sox. Teammates were waiting him patting them on the back essentially thanking for is incredible effort in that game. And right after that moment, Alex Cora coal team meeting and the Red Sox clubhouse, basically because he knew that the narrative would be that. This was a crushing loss and he wanted to thank his players for their effort congratulate them turn the moments, and he mentioned all these efforts in this game. And the other players on the team gave him a standing ovation to some of the Red Sox players really felt like that that turned the moment for Boston. But in Saturday's game they fell behind four to nothing Richaud was terrific for the top of the seventh inning. He had to come out of the game. Ryan Madson was in the game Mitch Moreland pinch it for the Red Sox. That should come shut. I run a second pitch. Swing and a high fly ball right field week. Not even not even moving rate is way back into the bleachers in right for a three run Homer. They're the Red Sox are back within Iran. And then in the top of the eighth inning. Steve Pierce, the plate kenley Jansen the dodgers on the mound. And here's the pitch. Swing and a high dry the left center field. This has some carry on it. And this game is time. Steve Pearce with a homerun off. Jason Pierce is race around the basis. Pointing at the first base dugout hamper the second night in a row kenley Jansen so renders a game tying home run. Going into this game dodgers record when having a lead of four runs or more in two thousand eighteen fifty four and zero that would change after Rafael Devers, gotta hit to give the Red Sox lead. And then Steve Pierce came to the plate. Again, would be pretty big he connects ear or wanted a fastball. Lied right center field. Trouble. It's down at the fence Denver's home, that's home, bad intead, d home. Re rod double Boston and blown it openly today to form. And so the Red Sox would win game for to take a three game to one lead. And you could hear the voice of my longtime colleague, Dan Schulman there. He had a case of laryngitis after that eighteen any game. Josh they called in reliever right in the middle World Series. We didn't Sean be doing from the east coast to the west coast to fill in for Dan. Yeah. No. I mean, a lot of people are going to talk about what Nathan evolve he did in this World Series. I go ahead and say that Dan Schulman's performance in that inning game was probably slightly more admirable. Yeah. And I it's funny. You say that because I told that today is left. I said you're like all the on this team. And if he was like of all, the we'll Shelby was like Kirk Gibson stepping into the big paint shed in game five and he was at the microphone for this. In the top of the first inning her Sean flying wing and a high fly all that one drill state. Our way back there. In the first inning of game. Five in the Red Sox had jumped out to to nothing lead. Wow. He snapped spied with Carlos families rounding third then they're going crazy. Boston dugout first base side to nothing Red Sox that off Clayton Kershaw. The dodgers ace who started game five David price. Started game five for the Red Sox which was something of a surprise after game. Four after the Red Sox came back to win that game. Alex Cora was in the interview room. He talked to reporters for awhile. And then over shoulder on the way out he said, oh, by the way prices starting game five not Chris sale. So the question was how long David price pitch early on. It. Didn't look so good shifts feet lifts link and delivers swigging high fly. All right field. Martinez. Going back turning. Freeze touchable raises. His right. This does he circle. Voiding dugout and a first bit for David price leaves the park over the right field. Wall gets to two one. In one of the most famous games in World Series history game six of two thousand eleven Dave David freeze had a triple any had a home run as the cardinals came back to beat the Texas Rangers on the way to a World Series victory. So we hit some home run in the first. And then in the third inning. He came to the plate again. Swag and high fly. All right field. Martinez back does he see it? He lost it. Tober take the bouncer law. Breeze around second threes racing prepared safely. JD martinez. Lost the ball. David freeze a home run and a triple in game five it was still two to one in the top of the six. Anyone Mookie Betts came to the plate to that point? He had thirteen straight hitless at bats before the game. Alex Cora told us in our meeting with them. Look, I think best is gonna do something today. Well, this is what happened in the top of the six. Here's to swing and a high apply ball left field on its back there. Touch them. All. Blasted the bleachers in left field. The Red Sox at Ron and Alex porous premonition comes true. The whole three one. Yeah. Mochi beds hadn't done a lot in this World Series. Neither had JD Martinez. Who would come to the plate in the top of the seventh the one one swag? Hi fly ball well-struck centerfield Hernandez back at the track. Jetsetter field. JD martinez. The Red Sox at another. And it's four one. Meanwhile, David price was rolling. He settled in. Here's price in the bottom of the seventh and the pitch swing a slow roller back to the mound. Frontside the mount by price. Lips? The first David price gets one two three. He has been tremendous here. Tonight rice has now set down the last fourteen in a row. So Josh at that point major league baseball came around. They were collecting MVP ballots the ballot that are booth turned in was for David price. What do you think about that? I mean, I'm not going to yell at you. It was certainly a worthy selection. But I once the game ended. I I knew that Steve Pearce was was going to get the MVP and shame on me for not even thinking of David price. But to me it was Steve Pearson. It wasn't really even that close. Okay. I've just say David price pinch started. And he had a great before you had a great performance. And he write it a lot of wrongs over the past couple of years. But I thought Steve beers. I thought that was that was the right call for. Yeah. And I knew he was going to get the MVP after what happened in the top of the eight years one three with the home Homer. The along swing and a high fly ball in left field as he have another on its way. We'll talk again. Homered in the I e homers in the eight his second blast the night more insurance for the Red Sox. They lead it five one. How many big bits that guy? He's got three home runs in less than twenty four hours. And there were no counter-punches from the Los Angeles. Dodgers Joe Kelly threw the ball. Great in the eighth inning. Then in the ninth Alex Cora turn the ball over to Chris sale Craig kimbrel. Head thrown in game. Three thrown game. Four before the game. Alex said he didn't know if he would use kimbrel. He said in the right circumstance he would use Chris sale. And he did which is why sale was on the mound for this saying looking looks at he's ready. Turds kicks buyers. Red Sox baseball. They have water. At a celebration begins. Chris sale. And the dog pile starts third base side of the pitcher's mound. Chime in the last fifteen years the Red Sox are World Series champions. This is what it sounded. Like w e the Red Sox flagship station. T fires twang. The Red Sox won the world championship. The Boston Red Sox beat the Los Angeles Dodgers five that one. They win the World Series games to one and the Red Sox become the first team and the twenty first century with four world championships. Can you? Wave. Joke is dig Leone with that call on W E Kyle soppe sent along these notes for David price. Last three postseason starts three. No nineteen innings. Just three earned runs and nineteen strikeout. Steve peers the last two games four for eight three homers and seven RBI right after the game. Tim Kirk spoke with David price. The Red Sox are world champions. How does that sound? Came here. You're going to have an opportunity to to get to this point every year. And to finally get here to come out on. This is. Amount. A loss for words right now. This is. Very special individually, your postseason began with doubts and finished with three tremendous starts in the postseason. Explain that journey through this season for you. Started off rough game game against the Yankees game game to Astros. The way I planned it to go. Even though we came out on top and. The last three. That's what I expected myself. So I was I was good to be able to do that. What did steep? Here's me to this team this year, but especially in the World Series. I feel like I'm one of the guys that has kept him in the alias for his entire career started at South Carolina whenever he hit a home run onto the softball field. My freshman year. That train rakes man. We we all on his back. So that was he's awesome. And St Pierre spoke with Tim Kirch in right after that as you were jumping on the pile. What is going through your mind as world champion? Always the greatest us all about right here. We celebrate. This is this magical with magical season. And what a great way to go out. You're on a non contender this year. He got traded to the Red Sox. And now you've done this in the postseason. Explain your journey this year baseball the funny game. He's never know. What's going to happen? No, that's great teammates and aside but coming over here. To be built to be part of something this special. You know, it's it's an art as dream come true. How would you describe what David price did in this post-season? But especially tonight what we spec out. He's our horse. And you know, we love what he's on the mound. We back this guy. He's a grinder competitor. And he did a great job this whole series. It was awesome speed last thing. How do you? Explain this. Tremendous power these last two games from you. Especially notice trying to leave it on the field. Good pitches, hit, you know, big hits times, and he'll be able to win the World Series because that's awesome. Steve. Thank you. So the Red Sox went through the trophy presentation in as that ceremony ended. Alex core of the Red Sox manager was coming off the podium who was looking to intercept him for ESPN radio. And he saw his daughter Camilla teenage daughter Camilla, she was in tears, and that's when I caught up with Alice give listen, and Alex is standing here with a trophy with his daughter, Alex. How cool is this for you? You work for the whole season. And to see come through. I don't even have words. You know, I'm I'm in shock. Honestly, we're very consistent from the get go for its training with an outstanding job to prepare for this. There was a plan in place. We took care of the pitchers, and then we were able to just go in and up Tober. And this is the result. You got at the trope championship trophy. Come off the stage your daughter's here in tears had they make it feel when you saw her. I mean, she's she's the most important person in my life. I'm very proud of her. She she lays on their pitch. It's kind of like, Dave and twenty. She bays his stat. She's outstanding woman told she's proud of her dad, but I'm proud of her in her life is perfect. But she she makes life where worth I love her, Alex. How do you feel about how your player responded to you? Seri-? I'm telling first of all they're very good. They bought into the concept. They didn't outstanding job throughout the season getting the pieces together. And now, we're the world champs last one for you. How about David price tonight? I'll sound. I'm so happy for him to find not only has a manager. But as a person. People doubted him, but he came out on top. I'm so proud of David. Dodgers manager. Dave Roberts evaluated Kershaw on price. I thought he had really good stuff. I did. There were a couple of mistakes in there with the fastball Pierce JD the ball that just didn't get there. And the Mookie slider just sitting there, and that's a good club over there. Very good club a great club. So when he did make a mistake they hit out of the ballpark. And you gotta give credit to David price over there. He pitch a heck of a ballgame. And couldn't put his together couldn't get baserunners and really stress at all. So it was pretty straightforward. But I can't say enough about what our guys did. And unfortunately, we can short again this year. And Dave Roberts, of course, manage the dodgers the World Series the last two years, and he said he expects to be in the World Series again in two thousand nineteen baseball. So when predictable you got to give yourself a chance to get to the postseason. And once you get there, you just gotta be playing your best baseball. And so that you look back, and you got appreciate the talent the team that you're playing against. I don't think we played our best, but part of it, and you got a lot lot of it is you gotta give credit to the opponent. And we had a lot of time to think about this one. But again springs, it'd be round the corner. And like I said I expect to be back here next year. Spring is around the corner, but Clayton Kershaw has to make a decision in the next seventy two hours about whether or not to opt out of his contract. He spoke to reporters after the game. Okay. You know? I know the future questions are obviously coming for myself. I don't want to take away from tonight, obviously. And what everybody's feeling and never wanna put the focus just on me or anything like that. This was a tough one for tonight. It really was. Myself personally, you know, it was it was tough David pick a great game. And I got out pitched and we lost the game. You know, I've got I got three days now to think about all that stuff before before anything happens. And so it'll be an eventful three days for me. And. Try to figure it out. David price went into the interview room, and he was asked about his reputation as a good teammate. And what that means to him. Teamates speak. So highly what does it mean to you to be a great team? A lot. This is this is a game. We get to play. It's it's the relationship that you make while you do this while you play this game. That's what makes his game. So special. Silence, of course, because David price was weeping. And he had to wipe his eyes with towel that he had Josh Red Sox fan. You know, David price ups and downs in his time with the team. What'd you think? Seeing that. No, as I said earlier BUSTER, I mean, the the guy right at a lot of wrongs that had taken place over the last couple of years. I mean, not only on the field. But off the field. He had seemed very prickly in recent years and anybody who follows sports knows that when you start getting prickly with the Boston media things don't typically turn out well for you. And so there was really kind of a, you know, a a relationship that wasn't great between David and the fans, but man what he's done the last two series has been really really special really good to watch. And he's certainly redeemed himself in a lot of people's eyes including my own and Chris singleton talked about David price after game five outstanding performance by him on short respite for a guy who wasn't a postseason pitcher a few weeks ago. Now of a sudden, I mean, he's. Finishing? He'll that clinching game of the World Series to make Boston the chance. And you mentioned him being prickly. Josh after they win the World Series. He tweeted out hashtag, I hold the cards now and his conversations with reporters he mentioned that he said you guys have been doing what you've been doing for while I hold the cards now in the conversation moving forward. After the game west gate, Las Vegas released. Its odds the Red Sox and the Astros were both listed as six to one favorites to win the two thousand nineteen World Series. And over the weekend. Reports emerged that the Mets will announce on Tuesday that Brody van wagon eight player agent will be the next general manager for the franchise. Thanks for listening to baseball tonight scoreboard shirted. Also, check out the baseball tonight podcast. Tim Kirk chin will join me discuss the epic weekend in this World Series. We play one more numbers game with Sarah Lang's. Todd Radim joins us to decide. Our weekly quiz trivia champion. Thanks for listening and have a great day everybody. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight scoreboard. And be sure to download all podcasts, including the baseball tonight podcast ESPN dot com slash pod center. The baseball tonight scoreboard.

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Starting 9 Episode 122 - Awards Check-In + More

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Starting 9 Episode 122 - Awards Check-In + More

"Welcome back to starting all pursue one twenty two it is we are approaching coaching. What five weeks left in the regular season. Now cannot time flies should shut the fuck up dallas. Yeah oh charged out to play you see my last night. We beat the yankees. Look oh easy with oakland as maybe why can't the white sox beat the yankees yes. Sir therapist isn't back from vacation. <hes> boy i i watched. I watched as impressed. You know all right. Are you alright. Well yeah yeah yeah. Everything is yeah no. It's whatever it's feis. If you wanna make sure i'm just do all oh you don't get it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. It's just you know how about the shared g._s. Now they're there jeez. I didn't wanna say anything. I didn't wanna say anything can't believe homer. Bailey is still getting meaning outs getting outs so jared. It appears like before my very eyes. I'm watching homer bailey. Get better right now. I don't think so it's it's great. It's this weird thing where it just keeps going out. There keeps getting just a little deeper into the ballgame yeah but did out of this with by two thirds. I think i don't know and it's it's yeah. He's given him a chance to win. I don't really want to talk about it too much. You know i'm excited about how they're playing but <hes> there's a lot of ballgame left saw that <hes> that op oh talk oh by piscotty last night <hes> now it's just a fucking pinball a seed an absolute route seat. They are they are. I gotta say this i could. I could say this because i don't know that <hes> i don't know that soria is an avid starting nine nine listener. <hes> aaron judge hit a ball last night. Excuse me two nights ago and i'm not lying in like <hes>. Sometimes they'll play this. They had this little cameron that sets right in front of me right and i fucking forget that it's there every day and it records everything i do well. They hit like judge hit this ball. There's like four sixty seven or something like that is not the tako message hit hit this ball and mind you. I've got a headset on downfield level. Okay and i'm amongst fans. He hit this ball and i jolted like i was standing next to somebody shooting skeet and just didn't have my ear plugs in and didn't know they were fucking firing and and then i just like kinda slumped down into my seat in my face was just it was not a good face was making and <hes> the a <hes> production truck was like hey you want to take a look at this and they were showing me and it was a genuine like as i'm talking to you right right now like somebody walking into my house like like i was fucking skit like oh god what was that like i thought someone was going to get hurt field and it was a missile the absolute rock the best though was his response to meredith rockets new york yankee writer who asked him after the game game. What are your thoughts on paraphrasing the question here but <hes> what do you think about the ball going out to left field and in his response was who cares where they go and she said well. That's the first one you've hit to left field as a first home run. Aaron judge has hit to left a field. That's crazy that phrase absolutely and say song yankee fan and the wildcard game last year in oakland. Yes the last pulled homerun. That's insane that is insane so it it got me thinking and for the folks listening the minute i thought about this and and i don't know why i even i don't know why didn't apply this but just watch his warm swings. Watch his routine on dick check and you can see that his entire thought process his entire. It looks like his entire physical approach is geared towards oslo. Oh that's his approach geared towards right-center. That's what that's where he's trying to make a living <hes> so it was crazy to think that he hit that ball that heart that far and that was like okay. I think now's the first time since like jay said essentially last year. I'm going to decide to fuck and turn on something but it was was loud noise boys. It was a loud noise. It was scary yeah yeah. That was pretty rough. La lot of walk off offs. I don't know if you saw the stat last night. The texas rangers walked off three times. It was their third walk off in their last four games and the baltimore orioles awesome had three walk off wins in their last like two hundred eighty nine games is basically since opening day of like they. They had a walk golf win on opening day last year. So since opening day of last year the orioles have walked off three times. The texas rangers have walked three times in their last four games. Also max muncie shout max muncie starting nine alumni who want that's why the juice ball thing i get that it's a thing put some of these home runs like the judge homerun max munchies walk off home run last night against the blue jays yeah. They're going really far but with a baseball paul from like ten years ago. These are still home runs. There's still there's still homers no doubt but what's cool is and as you will soon soon find out through the interview with our good friend my very good friend meredith wills astrophysicist dr meredith walls. There's something to the baseball so when when a ball gets hit x. hard it's supposed to go x. Far well when there are some things that are assisting ball flight like you can get that anomaly like there's if you have the right recipe you could like. That's what we're going must be a five hundred foot home run. We're going to see a five. I wanna see the five hundred foot home. I want to know mama. Zara who pretty much exclusively hits five hundred foot home runs like oh. What do we have jay. Do we have a home run over five ten in the sack cast era no yes yeah i think so over five ten i think i think missouri has won the five g. I thought it was like five. Oh something the longest home runs in the stack cast era. It's no mamas ara and trevor story story stories from two thousand eighteen tied at five five and giancarlo has one from two thousand sixteen that was five four everything else's looks like under under five hundred was the one that i mean stanton hit a ball out of dodger stadium. I think that was fifteen. He hit a <hes> <hes> is it. Is it fuck. It's not philly <hes> maybe it's saint louis like far far far above big mac acland <hes> i'm not sure if it saint louis or not but he hit of john carlos was in chorus field this one from twenty sixteen but <hes> at eduardo perez did a <hes> did like a piece on giancarlo stanton and he walked all the way up to <unk> a place that stanton hit the ball and you look down to where home plate is and it's just you you. Can't you like the camera. People are fucking ants. I did that in miami because it's just a field for ed's in miami they ha they mark like all like the home runs like they do outside of <hes> like cannon yards on utah they they do that in miami to there's one that went beyond the budweiser borrow in the left center and if you stand where they mark the ball aw look at home plate it. It's like where fucking pluto is. Gonna need elon musk to fire up another the rocket to get that ass out there <hes> <hes> <hes> <hes>. Did you happen to see the nick cast janos thing where he was your <unk>. I'm speaking of being on another planet. I wish because we interviewed him last year. I wish that i knew that he was like take this back then because i would have went a completely different route just gotta pull it. Out of a beer did like job yeah. We did like it was i ah i cited this a million times. The nick casts janos interview from last year is one of my favorite interviews ever because it was so loose and and it was as a more of a key like a flowing conversation that interview. I wish i knew that he was this space. Thou thinker type type deal i would've i would've had a lot of fun with that why he he's somebody who again like. I said it's obvious that you gotta pull it out of him. He's not just gonna put it on a tee for he's thinking man jury he's also probably having fun for the first time in like three to four years so he may be more willing to express his positive that aside currently yeah that is always always j. Hey the deal because it's it's one thing to be spirited and outgoing. There's there's there's <hes> if if you're good. You're just loud if you're good. You're colorful right well if you're not on a good team you don't really have an opportunity to be colorful and nobody wants to be loud on a losing team and so that's a tough spot to be well now like jason when a ball games hitting homers having fun but we can we can we can peel back the onion a little bit but so that's something we should. We should to try to circle back to you. Yeah i would love to re sit down with nick cassiano sin. Get that brain of his drinking again though dallas you <hes> you caught i put buni. I did catch up with aaron boone. <hes> <hes> <hes>. How did that was fun. We rehashed very very very briefly. I really didn't in want him to have to go back into the memory bank. I know he's looking forward so we talked about the success of the team a little bit last year we kind of ended the conversation right at the wildcard game and then i mean he he had stuff to do so but yeah we talked to him about. I talked to him about the the rance manse. Where are these coming from. What what's what's who argue aaron boone who are you. It was pretty fun to find out well. Did i tell you that kind of caught him. I don't know if he was talking shit but i caught him talking about me a- batting practice. It's what reggie reggie willits is he. The first is he. The first base coach of the yankees reggie willits yeah so <hes> i was was along the first baseline at batting practice an all stay there for the opposing teams like i'll red sox will hit i. I'll check them out and whoever comes in i'll watch a few guys around b._p. <hes> and then i see buni is over by the cage and willits goes over over to him and then he does one of those like hand over the mouth type mound meaning things he's he's doing one of these two to bone and he's looking at me while he's doing and a boon turns around and also looks at me and then looks back it will it's and then they're talking and i was like i don't know if this conversation or back conversation but i know you're talking about about me over the. I don't know that oh yes i. There's no one else standing over there dallas. There's new who who's to say there. There wasn't somebody that needed assistance of some sort behind you whether or not anyone there's a lot of people that stare over over you that you might think you're looking at you. There's a lot of people that are just stared over yeah. I'd be curious. I'd be curious to know what the tone of that conversation was. Dallas usc says a lot about a man if he can <hes> you know. Take criticism or ball busting or if you if you if you can't because not everyone everyone can take it so i i don't know. Can you take it. Can you not take it. I don't know i think just <hes> by virtue of sitting down with a c._d. With with me he he knew he knew that the he knew that there was the possibility for it you know i i actually i did get on them a little bit about about his look. Look what's what's up look well. If you go back to last year or is his first year you go early on like there were times where you know he had the he had the hat on high crown. Sit and took back in the shadows reminded me a lot of majo- tori i was i was i was telling him and now now i look at you and i said this on the by now. I look at you and you are. I feel like you're one set of leggings away from executing across discipline right there the duck right there in the dugout like you've you've got your. You've got your cutoff hoodie you. You've got the hat thrown on like you. Were like you're getting ready to run out there on the field. You got the slight cock upward tilt go like you got the booty. Look going your your company in your own. You've got this week kicks you know and so we kind of got into that as well but <hes> it's good to catch up with the with the skipper the yankees there was there was wasn't wasn't it. I bet you has had a grand old time together would love. I love to have another conversation with you. Know i think <hes> i think had enjoy just sitting down with a guy and a couple of guys talking baseball. That's all i mean. I guess if we're going going based on what you've experienced he already he already knows you right or he knows who you are. You saw that conversation in vegas. I don't remember if i told the story on the podcasts so we're in vegas for the winter meetings in december dallas and i are sitting down to a nice a nice steak steak dinner nice steak dinner and <hes> i think you were like texting him to see like if he was around and then he happened to walk into the fucking restaurant. We're kind of like by the entrance of the restaurant dallas's boom you walk in. He gets up to go. Say hi to me. I'm thinking like all right like dallas. Dallas is catching up with an old friend. I don't need to be there for that and do my whole shtick <hes> so then they're talking for a while and i was like all right. It's been a few minutes like now. If it's going to be like a thing where he's he's over talking to them forever. Now i have to get up and go over there and say hi so i get up i walk over and we had interviewed boon for like a week after he got hired art you so but it was a phone so i didn't know if he remembered me or knew who i was or whatever so i go up and i introduced myself very nice to meet you. Jack rob's nice to meet. You is like i know who you are. Oh okay all right so i get that shit yeah so i mean he <hes> he. He knows he knows. I just don't know <hes>. I don't know where he stands. I don't know i don't know where he stands above. I'd love to be able to talk to him and he i appreciate here. He appreciates he appreciates baseball mind if you if you were able to tighten up some biases by i'm very unbiased so i think i had a fucking i've had talkng as my show him. Some love. I've had gio or shelhah. I fucking sat down with the man gio were shell welcomed him into this podcast studio that i'm sitting right now and said nothing but positive thing gio or shell came up to me and gave me a hug that very same day after he finished around a b._p. Happy came over gimme. A big old hug luke voight talk to him gave him a big hug. I am very unbiased and the fact that you would suggest anything but that that it is. I might use the d. word here. You bring up you. Bring up luke late. Can i just throw this out there. I tweeted this last night. Mike mike ford tank last night. Mike ford is the love child of daniel vogel bach and luke void yeah. That was <hes>. Now's a big boy tank last night. Yeah the ball was balls. Touched bowls touched <hes> they still lost ball was hit hard though still us osma but i couldn't help but look at mike ford and think if a yeah luke enya vogel bach bom <hes> that's a big boy tank last night it was to make it like six three or something like that <hes> no six to. 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Wow love that play a little pepper here carlos correa to the the injured list. I like this. I don't like this. I mean how many times have we said you know if the astros can just get healthy. There's no one stopping them will ver- ver- over the last two years basically since they won the world series. How how many times can we honestly say that they've been completely healthy that they've had a cohesive put together healthy unit <hes> it hasn't been all that often over the last two years and i know the al tuba injury really really kind of fucked them last year towards the end springer <hes> being a guy. That's gotten hurt <hes> yeah. I mean this is. This is not what you want. Having having having carlos correa go there in a comfy spot. Obviously you wanna get them back to october but securing homefield is still very important in the postseason yeah yeah and i would ease up on that in a comfy spot talk for an eye up on that now. They're they're in a pretty spot. No i think they are actually actually it's not a reality and <hes> when you start to lose guys like this n._l. Say this with them. Having just left town having lost that series here in oakland i did take note that jose today. He looked great physically running. He actually got thrown out at home. By a country mile. He actually got thrown at at home so so far in advance that josh vaguely went to apply the tag and he wasn't there yet and then i'll to got there so either put that on on the third base coach which i'm not inclined to do or put that on a day either way didn't look healthy and wasn't swaying it. Well a dickey the yet on anoc maybe to the whole series. I don't know if he had a knock. Actually in fairness algebra did come into the series very hot. I'm not gonna speak that way looks but the stats he he was pretty hot of late entering the series. Well things things change folks. Get it get it yeah but this is not not good but again. The astros are a nice comfy position right now. <hes> can i can. I look at it from a different perspective or ask you guys about it. From a different perspective active shares. I think carlos correa has been a guy that like the three of us a- viewed or maybe just myself but i think all three of us viewed as like a a guy on the cusp of that m._v._p. Type breakout season full complete carlos correa season that we've been envisioning for a long time and he's only in his age twenty four so this is not like a this is not a postscript or anything but this is now going to be his third straight season where he's missed substantial substantial portions of the astro season. He played one hundred nine games and one hundred ten games in seventeen and eighteen. He's got seventy. Two games played this season. That's fifty. He's six percent of the astros games to this point over the last three years. He's played just under sixty percent of their available games. There's no question that he fucking rocks on a per game basis right per one hundred sixty two games for his career. He's averaging thirty homers one hundred ten r._b._i. Okay so it takes two years to put that together yeah and and it's listen he's awesome like i looked up shortstops through their age twenty four season by a p._s. Adjusted e._p._s. in m._l._b. history. He's the only people he he's behind our rogers. Hornsby arche von alex rodriguez hanley ramirez in cal ripken junior okay so like the bat is as promised but i feel like we're getting to the point where it's like yo if he's having snagging semi chronic issues at age twenty two to twenty four like what the hell is twenty eight twenty nine and thirty going to look and and you also gotta remember there was a lot of talk and conversation around his arm angle his arm slot because does he is over the top at the shortstop position and there are a lot of throws that that position just doesn't lend itself to an overhand slot and so you've got to adjust one thing. I'll also note about korea. Is he look. This is a strong motherfucker. This is a strong kid. Did you stand next to him. He he fills up space very quickly and he uses he uses effort. It takes effort for him to get going. He's not a <hes> like when he's running the bases you can see there's some rigidity to the body <hes> <hes> i mean he's a great athlete but i think there's always been like those max. Effort guys tend to be more injury prone and book book. He's dealt with a side injury right from the from the freak massage accident from the freak gasoline accident <hes> and he's got he's got now as you said you hate nagging back injuries and he plays a premium position. That's the other thing moving carlos correa. Where would you potentially it is specially on that team. You know are you are. I mean trust me. You're not going to have to drag alex bregman over to shortstop. He'll he'll go play shortstop. If you need to play shortstop he'd be more than happy to do so. I'm sure <hes> so if it's about trying to limit careers movement and stick him at third like this is why this raises questions for the future which is kind of where i think you're going yeah and it's not they're not like devastating questions but just for a guy that we expected to be an m._v._p. And i think a lot of people expected to be the best player on this astros team to be sooner than later exactly has got to be but it's almost like it's been okay. It's been okay because george has been who he's been altoona. What he's. I don't think anyone expected springer to be this good though but that's that's that's part of my point is that's what's kind of helped or allowed because look we have a saying right. Winning cures everything win and winning covers up mistakes winning covers up shortcomings so george springer becoming who he has become coming into his own has allowed a carlos correa to go through some of these struggles to experience some of these nagging injuries if you will <hes> should george mayor or not become the dynamite. He is at the top of lineup especially defensively then. You're probably looking at this glass a little differently. Maybe it's not hassle don. Alvarez coming up and being like one of the five best pure bats in the league are probably two that is was pregnant being an m._v._p. Candidate if that offense like to jared's original point. I hope we get to see the all of those guys in the lineup reasonably healthy at the same same time because that offense is fucking on unreal and young yeah watching him to watch it him take a treat like bringing is not a freezing after this year. Does he know two years but i mean that's just it's unfair on fair like especially when you bring up a guy like your don alvarez who's hitting fucking exclusively second deck tanks nothing less. It's it's it's a joke and it's the it's the it's the fashion which he's doing. He's patient. You're like you watch him. Hit these breaking balls. He said some good breaking balls and it's like he sees it out of the hand foot down. Why app then we go dropping head. It's i believe george springer springer. He's hit a two year twenty four million dollar deal that covered last year and this year and i believe he's got he'll go back. He'll be eligible for one more year and then free agency after after twenty twenty got. It makes sense via. I i think to jay's point. It's it's with the whole waiting for korea thing. I think i don't know if it was this year or maybe prior to two thousand eighteen. Some of us remember who one one of us picks career to be the american league like like this is the year was a you dallas for eighteen eighteen or eighteen. I think guy may have to honestly if we go back and check the tapes. I think i might be guilty. I mean it's not like it's not like. It's all a dumb pick. It's just i think we're now seeing a transient. He's well. He has health. He's going to be and you know what he's going to be one of those guys what you hope he. I hope he doesn't become one of those. Guys that that you just kind of circle the wagon on you know what i mean like. He's he's that meet sac hanging out in the middle of the ocean and you're a great white and it's like like <hes> do i go and bite this meat sack that i know i'm not really going to get fulfilled on people are just going to snap pictures of me. I'll end up naked in a national geographic somewhere and that's really that's all. That's gonna komo this or do. I want to go fucking munch on that seal because i know what that's gonna taste like that and that seal being other m._v._p. Candidates that have shown proven to be healthy that meet sack. I don't know what that meets acts. Gonna taste like i know it looks really bucking good carlos correa. I know it has the potential to taste really fucking good carlos correa but is it just going to be a meet sec. Yeah not ideal john gray. <hes> has suffered a foot fracture. He will be on the injured list <hes> foot fracture out. I mean i'm dr surprise i i don't i doubt dr dallas. Is this something that you would be able to see him. Return this year from this is actually -cially a an just for the record. My medical name is practicing name is web m._d. Be yeah the thing with the thing with the feet. Friends is everything we do on baseball everything you do athletically from the ground up from the ground up in especially as a pitcher. If you are compromising anything you're doing that is bad news for john gray this. This is the foot that he plans on that is not good so you're trying to create a strong frontside a strong wrong front post of sorts to be able to throw against create all the momentum and throw against well if that foot doesn't have the ability to handle that pressure to take that pressure now. Maybe that ankle can start to give a little now. Maybe that knee starts to give a little now. Maybe you're not finishing your pitches because you know that that ankle and you have felt that knee start to give a little start to acl it'll more maybe you're sore and now you start to work your way up and jared. It's <hes> it's not good because it works. Its way all the way up that kinetic chain to the arm the shoulder older so the elbow to the what the fuck just happened my my feet my foot. Did this been there done that. My friend been they're done that. What if this is. This is the end of his season which let's just say it is it is <hes> one hundred fiftieth so this is a weird year to year so last year <hes> for the twenty eighteen season john gray had five twelve e._r._a. He had a four zero eight whip. An one three four are whip so you look at that and you compare it to this year. The five twelve year a drops to three eight four but the flip four four zero eight two four zero six and the whip one three four two one three five so i mean it's almost like the peripheral statistics are almost identical gold to last year but as the i._r._a. Dropped about a run and a half getting big outs in big situations yeah house aren't you guys are scoring the difference. I don't what it is yeah. He's he's putting runners on base at about the same exact rate as last year and preventing earning them from scoring somehow. I was going to say you know what you would look at. I guess <hes> just off. The top of the head is how many double plays says induced <hes> how many double plays with men sworn position obviously with you know <hes> and then you also have to look at what his inherited runner numbers look look. How many times has he been cashed in. How many times does he left with men on base. What's that bullpen done for him. That's all that's probably a big deal to so. The bullpens probably had his back back and he's probably made some bitches. When you need it to yeah that would that would make a lot of sense bullpen out inherited runners not not scoring on ya. That's the difference to get. Buggy cashed out like save. I'll tell our run that'll be yours. Here's brennan tomorrow done zo the cubs are shutting. It blocked down on brennan immoral for the twenty nineteen season <hes> all right. That's fine craig kimbrel. Craig kimbrel hasn't really been as hit or miss as i feel like cubs. Fans are are making it out to be. I feel like he's been pretty solid for them. So you'll lose tomorrow. You gain a craig kimbrel. Oh i still think the cubs are in a pretty good spot last night. Did you watch that giant's game. Cubs giants noshir did so <hes> that cubs ebbs giant's game. I don't know if it felt like a turning point to me but comparable to it was one of those games where <hes> the cubs very easily could have let that one get away from them. <hes> the giants kept chipping away chipping away until they finally really were able to tie take the lead and <hes> the kris bryant homer in the eighth inning a lot of emotion out of a guy like nick cassiano. I know <hes> rounding the bases and then you had craig kimbrel. Shut the door on the ninth. I cubs earn a good spot. I and i'm i'm gonna continue to pat myself on the back for this. After the trade deadline i said the player that was traded prior to the deadline they will have the the greatest impact on their new team nick castanos he has been that he hit eleven homers in one hundred games. It's eleven homers in one hundred games with the detroit tigers. He's already hit. Sir <unk> eight is in the nineteen game since being traded to the cubs obs- so renna morrow being shut down not something that's on my list of concerns right now for the chicago cubs. There's always tamara i i. I got nothing for you. That's where we're at with brennan moro. I think that's appropriate your brain. Your brain and moro rent yeah <hes> the tigers have shut down starting nine alumni casey mice between a high in aa delay and by the way in <hes> in six starts in high he had only eight e._r._a. And thirty strikeouts in thirty two thirds but overall all next he gets called up a three to yarra in double a. and punches out seventy six guys in seventy eight and two-thirds is innings. <hes> a successful first full professional season for casey m- is this is a guy that <hes> if you are a detroit tigers here's fan. You're watching what the tigers have done this year. This is kind of a light at the end of the tunnel. There are some organizations. We don't have to name names. Maybe maybe the orioles where there's no really there's no light at the end of the tunnel. There have been some bad teams that have tanked and just continued to suck after that <hes> but the detroit tigers they've got some light at the end of the tunnel here and i would say that casey mayes is one of those guys who's who's one of the biggest lights at the end of the tunnel before this organization well. That's what you took away from. The conversation with him was he wants to get to the big leagues as soon as possible but he wants to get to the big leagues and stay in the big leagues. He understands what it's going to take to do so and as far as his stuff is concerned i i i don't. I don't think that people really question whether or not that's gonna be able to play. It's just a matter of refining it much like it is for all these young guys but the health thing is something something i don't wanna see just don't wanna see arms like this continue to get babied along the way and have him never be able able to like maybe fulfil and become that horse of sorts <hes> that makes sense yeah i don't want. I don't want the aright innings limit innings innings innings limit and eventually that it was a moment where he could break out or he could he could start to extend himself and that's just never allowed <music>. I would hate for that to <hes> to happen but i've been in his exact situation. I was shut down at the beginning of august of in oh ooh five and it was just purely because i think i had like a hundred and forty five innings or something like that between a couple of different levels and it was just time to shut it down so the fuck down but i was no casey mayes you weren't of is not not gobs of nokia mice got it got it got it got that. 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In on <hes> the awards are handed out at the end of the major league season <hes> and <hes> there's there's there's one award in particular where i feel like i made a strong stance and both of you took another side and you'll proved to be incorrect <hes>. I can't imagine that's correct but go ahead. Oh it is correct. What senate you wanna start art. There sure wherever that is just pitch everywhere the national league rookie of the year of both of you you said that totti's would pass alonzo by the end of the year and not just eight goal and he's he's written the brain rookie of the year sub two hundred in the second half right yeah like the whole idea is if tease isn't laid up with his feet in a saddle watching the ball game from home then yeah ofi case don't lie at the end of the year pilon zo is gonna be your nationally rookie of the year just as i told you many moons ago no wonder what maybe and and before the season even started before the season even started. He hadn't even played a game yet yet. We made predictions. Who's gonna be the national league rookie of the year. I said pete alonzo. I was the only one to say pete alonzo. Praise me dallas less. Tell me how smart i am. When it comes to baseball i can't do that for reasons. Jay has already touched on and the simple fact that i told you the guy that he'd be contending with the guy that would win. The award is out like lonzo had scotland for but if tattoos is healthy and and continued to perform the way he was performing in my mind that it was just a matter of time because you're gonna get excited about the homers for peter lonzo but outside of that stuff you compare tattoos like. I don't know i mean jake. What what are your thoughts. I mean i still think totti's would have won. The award had he continued to play but he's not playing so he's not going to win the award. It's i mean it's it's for me. It's just so so on in a very literal technical. All sense jared is correct. He took a stand for the guy who is limping to the finish line congratulations to him. Padres looking towards their future shut down their franchise player. I don't have a problem with it. I'm willing to be unwilling to be wrong. Quote unquote for the betterment of totti's future that's fine. That's fine cannot go my pick for american league cy young hold on hold on longer in the american league. You're bouncing all over the place. Hey i'm just saying i'm i'm. I'm being humble around. I'm being humble and unbiased by saying that i yeah i was. I was the smartest person on this podcast as it pertains the national league rookie award <hes> but the american league cy young. I got wrong because he's not even in the fucking american league anymore. So let's just start at the top the american league ep we can all move on from there. This is mike. I don't think that anyone here is going to disagree with that. I think no action david don't do that. Don't it's going to hurt the credibility of the podcast i was. I was gonna say all. I say this because obviously we are all in complete and total agreement here. Is there anybody you could even just tickle the balls on no shave. This might just walked. Louis lopsided vote in quite some time. I think it's gotten to the point where you know the people who are going to criticize trout for not being on a playoff team. I'm can't even credibly make a case for somebody. Else could make a case for for rafael devers. No this is not even clearly the best player on his team. There see stoops's polo paces doubles r._b._i. Extra-base hits he leads the majors in all those categories like you could make a case it would be the argument in a world where a world where mike trout didn't exist assist rafael devers one thousand percent would be a strong candidate for the a._p. So we're we're just alternate reality and you could make a reasonable argument recommended even necessarily to be made for anyone other than my chart. I'm saying mike trout didn't exist. Rafael devers would make make a very very strong case so i'm l._p. Tweeted out this a <hes> like the writers did a straw poll recently on the like like all the awards as they do like once a month or so and i think the top three for the a._l. Was trout bregman divers and as you would expect the yankee chorus was you know basically wears lemay hugh which is just like. It's entirely predictable but it's not even close. He's not ask. Could you tickle the falls. Could you tickle the balls on alex bregman. Okay oh hey hey hey. Hey you guys pick pick. We need to go back and fucking. Trust me if we were able to go back and find all that we have talked to know when we here's what we're going to do when we win the when we do the awards podcast okay yeah. We need to cut his british pitch from we are gonna before we get to the actual picks for this year. We're going to splice in the dumb and idiotic things that that we said back in whatever march whenever we did it that's cheap and track. All the dumb shit we say on these things is so that there's like yeah. That's okay all right. It's easy to find. I do so so let me just make this final point. Just let you know why even asked about the tickling all right because the war number <hes> think about those that separate one and two and then big obviously be having this discussion in the the <hes> in the in the nationally yeah one note on trout. He's on pace for his fourth ten win. Season per baseball reference assuming he does accomplish that the only players in baseball history who will have had more such seasons are babe ruth willie mays and rogers hornsby initial he will officially with many more seasons presumably left in his career he will have passed bonds mantle williams and cobb for those such seasons uh-huh babe ruth socks they. We all just need to cost base paid here. He's no no fucking n._l. M._v._p. So you you feels like dallas has got something to say here. Oh no no no no no. No no i was just is is re. I mean it's yellow. Your belly is it not. It's really your belly. They are literally one and two in war a war o._b. P slug o._t._s. Oh p._s. Obviously total bases homers batting wins plus adjusted batting winds so the total value of a player to their team convene his bat specifically extra-base hits. They're tied with the josh bill. I believe <hes>. I just don't know if if i don't know if yeli is i honestly think that yellow winning it last year is playing against him. This shear not to mention. I think cody bellinger is just. I think it's been a a level of sustained production on a different level. Yeah just to just a tick higher if you will. It's okay to say the same thing is like when we get to the n._l. Cy young talk. It's kinda the same deal just because belgium's having a better year doesn't mean that yellow which isn't having an m._v._p. Caliber season. I don't think it takes away from anything that he's done this year. He's having a fucking phenomenal a nominal season. He's having an m._v._p. Caliber sees it just happens to be that balancers having slightly better. I think it's also awesome that it is too young guys that are going to be in hopefully going to be around this game for a long time. These like i could see a yell ian belly kind of like just this continued battle over the course of many years taking m._v._p.'s away from each other taking batting titles away from each other before we move on from the n._l. M._v._p. I feel like the the narrative tide is turned towards ronald kunas. The default third option and i just wanted test. Throw this out into the world. I i'm just not quite sure when he passed anthony rundown on in this pecking order because nothing really about random season is slowed down he would be the first third abasement since mig in two thousand thirteen to slash four hundred six hundred four hundred on base percentage six hundred slugging he beat the i l. third baseman to do so since chipper in two thousand seven and the only other nationals expos players to ever do that harper in his m._v._p. Campaign in two thousand fifteen in vlad in two thousand. I get why is appealing and his team leads the division. I just don't anthony random has been that third guy the entire season and i just don't see how he's been displaced yet because as red blooded americans j. hey we are namur d- with sexy numbers sexy records and just forty forty gets the blood flow and just a a little bit so you start to have those conversations and now you're like well how how's the how's a forty forty guy not an m._v._p. Candidate like how that happened and that's where the conversation goes. There is a statistic that ronald acuna. I believe leads <hes> i i. I would have to look this up. I'm going to i'm trying to look it up. As i talked to you guys right now. <hes> it's the run power index number right and that's taking home runs and stolen bases uses and multiplying them and then taking home runs and stolen bases and adding them and then dividing that number over the <hes> multiplying that number by two and then dividing it and like a kunas run power index is greater than i think any body in the you know if i remember correctly i i was looking at that a couple of days ago but <hes> the power speed combination is something that's attractive sure wii. Christian yelich is like for him to be for him to hit the ball the way he has for power and to steal bags in crete run-scoring opportunities thirties. That's that's that's a fun brand of baseball to watch be played yeah. Where do you think it's more likely forty forty or fifty thirty <hes> fifty thirty because what's now forty one. He's at thirty six homers and kunia. Oh yeah he's got thirty six homers in twenty eight bags. Maybe he got thrown out trying to steal last night. I don't having either one's happening yeah. He's not going to get to fifty yay. No i don't see a kunia getting fifty now her and i honestly honestly i think he'll probably end up somewhere around like thirty three bags thirty four like just because like i said the opportunities are going to be a aren't as abundant as one might think down the stretch. How many times is gonna hit the ball. It ended up on second. Her times is he gonna end up making three left turns and for the for the game situation to dictate him needing to take second base. You know gambling with that out. We all know what the odds are. We all know looks looks like they tell you that it's not good. We're not just here to give away out so i don't know that that forty is a realistic number but it sexy and that's why that's what gets the conversation going next the american league samsung award winner. It's crazy that he doesn't have more and if the writers fuck him again. I swear to god oh aw i it's if he does get fucked. It only be to his own teammate. I got that that's kind of like my. I guess they could take votes away from each other and it could be like this weird situation like in two thousand sixteen where like rick portillo one with the most second place votes or some shit <hes> but it should just berlinger last night <hes> each shutout at least ten batters seventh consecutive start. I don't know what the statistic a tip was but it's like when like five guys five yet it will it was a record. It was a houston astros record that he broke against oakland yeah yes so the stat is the oh so seven or more straight starts with ten plus k's the only people who have done that no one ryan randy pedro grow and sale and the only people if he does it one more the only people who have done at eight times chris sale twice to separate streaks and pedro martinez once crazy hoping pitching in a very high level although i will say gary cole- over his last fourteen starts ten and no one nine eighty are a one hundred twenty six strikeouts over over ninety one innings. I don't think this would be highway robbery. If garrett cole won the award. I don't think either it would just be shitty because burland has been. I don't wanna say fuck but he's been. He's been fucked now. He's been fucked. You got fucked in sixteen. What does that was that jay. What does it mean uh he got it. He got an m._v._p. That he probably shouldn't have gotten. I bet you he would gladly give back that m._v._p. Cy young and also no no no no no no no no. No no no no easy but you want to read that m._v._p. Is a feather in pitchers cap more so that look because the cy young award. That's that's like. I don't care how you hit. I don't care how many home runs you hit. I don't care what you're batting averages. You can go ahead and win the triple crown miguel cabrera. You can go ahead and set the world on fire by trout. Guess what you will not ever receive one single. Go boat bore in your entire career. A cy young get sued. Just took your award from you. The guy who works every five days you couldn't couldn't beat a guy out who only works every fifth day so as a pitcher that's just a huge double rockets to the rest has to the fucking playing world buck. I'm so good that what i do every day was worth way more than what you do. Everyday maybe next year i dunno i f- if i'm obviously can't speak for justin verlander but have our pitcher i would want more awards for separate seasons than ha- i'd rather have a sei-hyung in two seasons than a cy young in an m._v._p. One season yes see like for me. No no like i i i i was so that's a that's another level of dominance. That's what i'm saying is you were so dawn. Not what everyone is saying that he shouldn't have won it like i know it doesn't take the trophy off of his trophy case but sure doesn't and all the people that mattered are the ones who made this. Oh so a court of public opinion. That's cute too. That's also rather have those. I if i were a starting pitcher and i had the option. Take your pick. You can have two ceos awards or a cy young and m._v._p. In the same season i would i'd probably take the two cy young awards because it's just i mean he should he should have won for twenty sixteen and i don't know how the voting is gonna turn out this year but i strongly believe that justin verlander should be the the cy young award winner in the american league this year as well and outside young <hes> two things online note review to podcast ago. We talked about his pursuit of like the the lowest e._r._a. Since type stuff his only start since then five and two thirds four earned so as e._r._a. It went from one four five two one six four. That is a devastating blow to any attempt at certainly bob gibson's record. Eh but here's here's a stat. I dug up so i think we're on the same page probably use award right now with the caveat that max scherzer could build a case if he comes back back healthy over the last month. We talk on the mad max trade. Let's however however let me bring up a guy who's not going to win but who is having an. It's another insane season. Which is jacob degrom okay. Oh god per baseball arts this is this is not no no. I'm going in a different direction. This is nutty to me. He's last year was his age thirty. This age thirty one season okay per baseball reference. He's accumulated fourteen point seven wins above replacement as men across that span the only right handed right handed pitcher since the game was integrated to have a better age thirty to thirty one a stretch is greg maddux from nine hundred ninety six thousand nine hundred ninety seven that is the only pitcher from thirty to thirty one to be better than degrom has over that same stretch he just edges out per baseball reference pedroso to-to three seasons david co own ninety three ninety four gaylord perry sixty nine to seventy seventy. Those are the top five. That's how good jacob degrom is and he may not get a single first-place vote for the young this year nor should he. Perhaps perhaps i mean he's not he's not the best pitcher in the national league. He's not the second best pitcher in the nationally but i don't think the conversations is is necessarily over in that regard. I think there's a scenario where this could still be jacob degrom award. I mean i would have him as the third best bursar in the national league. I agree and i think if sherzer does not build the case that we're talking about and review falls off. I think there's like a there's a wave that i'm almost a false into the award. I don't think it's likely but if you has three or four bad starts in his i._r._a. Gets up to like two three. He's not winning out. Give it to show. Is it weird for me to say that even right now. I'm not tonight. I'm considering scher yeah i. I don't it's weird. No i'm telling you because it look. This dude comes back and it's just a fucking beast. He's going to leave view with that. Fresh taste of dominance in your mouth. That's going to be out of my mouth. Double fist dominates when it's right to the dome. That's what that's what i like you go to the dominance statistics and that's where you know it's it's rural maxi babes gonna g- gonna rule the case for nine <hes> like he the only thing the one thing that he's not going to be in the conversation for i don't know maybe what's the workload workload borough for a maxi babe. He's not going to be anywhere close to like anyone's number yeah no but he no but he still could be on an innings level with review. Here's my take with this sure sure i did. One of them are even at one hundred. Fifty innings are they. I think were you need to i. I think we're u._c._r. A has to be below two to win the award because of the limited body of work yeah. I just think like that's how the votes to work like if he doesn't have that clear cut like sub two sexy e._r._a. I think i think he believes himself. Is what does as of right now. We're you sits. I in i believe whip walks per nine yaritza his right now yeah and he's and he's i in a ton of the advanced adjusted stats as well per baseball reference <hes> but yeah. I think that's that's why i just i think max sherzer could definitely come back and because what a cool story line that would be as well right you come back at the shot in the arm for the nats. You get this guy just yeah. Don't count them out. Let me n._l. Rookie of the year we started touched on. It's gonna be pita lonzo. We know that good job is praised. I i do want to show. I want to know one thing about a guy who <hes> is probably again not going to win the award but has been like insanely insanely good. Mike sarah's road e._r._a. Is one point three two this season it would be it would be the best road e._r._a. By anyone in baseball minimum ten road starts to not even that high of a threshold since roger clemens in two thousand and five and the best by an n._l. Pitcher pitcher since greg maddux nineteen ninety-five so that's why like i i'm just not here for the whiny complaints of actual players in the league like talking about the juice balls is because look at you know. You're talking about sarah's road numbers. You're looking at a hundred and reused entire season. If you're good you're still gonna find a way to get out so that's why i mean the the juice balls those are for the fans when we're sitting here talking about aaron judge turning on a fastball and putting it buck and five hundred eighty rose back dots. That's what gets the fan interest going. If you're saying it it gives you a competitive or gives. The hitter's a competitive advantage bit but there are guys who are still having great success in this this league like dominant historical success as a pitcher so stop bitching and try to figure out what the fuck. They're doing correctly so that. You're not giving up. These five. Hundred eighty foot home runs yeah. It's not that easy but it's not that he's you. Have you have changed the way the game is being recorded with this baseball and you're going to have outliers sort of performances in any scenario whether you put a carburetor on the baseball like it seems like we've done now or you put an end ville in the motherfucker. They're still going to be guys who just crushed the ball at a ridiculous rate in regard or in respect to you. Maybe some of the rest of the folks look i. I've said this about the baseball and we don't need to get heavily into this but you think about the guys that have i've been questioned as far as did they take p._d.'s and placing asterix nest to their performances. You you fuck around around with the actual ball that everybody is playing with because guys don't have the choice of not playing with this baseball everything that they're doing this entire. Era should have astronauts on it not just for one individual because these numbers like you're just. You've never seen this type of offensive production in the game. That's just those are those are the facts. Those are the numbers so i appreciate outlier performances that kind of fly in the face of everything that has been the baseball but the baseball all is very real very bare those guys that are getting blisters every every day. You talk to these guys every day. It's i mean there's no denying a._l. Rookie of the year are we on agreement that your don alvarez has officially. Yes lock that bad boy in she has but i was looking. I was looking obviously he's got a limited sample but i was looking at <hes> adjusted ups by rookies in like two hundred plate appearances senses are more and his season is eerily similar to the age twenty one nine thousand nine hundred fifty nine debut of one willie mccovey the they basically have the almost identical slash lines. <hes> alvarez is going to end up with like one hundred fifty more plate appearances his but obviously incredibly impressive all right so that was a good revisit good revisit. Some things still yet to be decided decided yeah. I'd say the most interesting being that national league cy young award feel like that's the most up for grabs award agree although i think aol cy young and l. cy young <hes> n._l. M._v._p. to i don't think those are i. I still think the yelich bellinger back and forth is compelling. Yeah those are tight races. I mean i think those conversations are pretty limited but those are. That's what's interesting is they're. 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Distillery dot com it is time to show similar love and <hes> let's see who do we start with this week. Yossi lovey this week feeling the love this week neil young. I've got to go. I'm gonna go the two places one. The young surfer minnesota lewis araya's is that how you say his his name araya's araya's is it a decent month of august thus far hitting over three hundred o._b. P. three fifty nine slugged twenty three. This is a dude who has shown tremendous that to ball skill for for the minnesota twins kind of a <hes> kind of a sneaky one of these guys. I don't know how much you factored araya's into the plans or or how big a part you thought he was going to be for the minnesota twins. You wanna talk about a nice surprise. You wanna talk about. You've got to love it. Araya's you got to fucking love it because it's not only he he's he. He's he's flexible as well. You could play me the bill platelet little outfield swiss army knife of sorts another guy. I want to talk about <hes>. I won't get too so far in the woods on this mark cana- guy who has gotten everyday opportunities against right handed pitching for the first time has fourteen homers homers against right handers of the nineteen nineties hit and this is a guy who was typically a left handed platoon guy <hes> with ramon laureano allie's playing a lot of centerfield centerfield complaints based as well so along the same vein as araya's flexibility for the skipper so those are the two guys i mean the the season line right now now on araya's three forty one four eight obie four forty five slug with the ups plus one twenty eight so that's my heart beats for beautiful beautiful j. jeff some love. You'd like to give this week. Oh oh i'm gonna spread it real thick all oh full arch. I'm all over the place but i'm going to try and keep it rapid fire <hes> <hes> j._t. Muto feel like the story on him has been that he's been a little underwhelming this year as part of generally underwhelming phillies team perfect perfect graphs. He has been one of the ten best position players in the entire elvis season. He's been worth four point five wins above replacement slashing to seventy seventy five three twenty six four seventy six which perhaps modest in today's offensively juiced game but the threshold at catcher is insanely low at the moment <hes> <hes> yvonne. Nova looked like he might be a d._f._a. Candidate going back not too long ago over his last six starts. It's he is five zero with a zero point eight five yara any across forty two and a third innings. He's doing it a little differently. He's only got nineteen strikeouts pretty tasty yeah and <hes> guy who goes today ryan yarbrough book. We'll get a list of the tampa bay rays. He's been a reliever starter opener relief. I mean he's been all over the place over his last eleven. He is six zero with a one point four three e._r._a. And a fifty four to four strikeout-to-walk ratio the last t- this he's basically like the new blake's now is it ryan yarbrough obviously early and then. I don't really have any sexy stats for this guy but you know sometimes love can be simple and i wanna give a shout to michael brantley who's was hitting three thirty four to lead the league. He slashing three thirty four three nine three five forty his nine thirty two o. p. S. is a hundred points higher than it was with the indians last year and would be forty two points above his previous career high which was set in two thousand fourteen eighteen with the indians as well and yes. I've already talked about how the indians unforgivable decision to not tender him a qualifying offer but we hadn't talked about it a little bit. The astros never relent and we were talking about that earlier. Springer alvarez altuva carreira a-a-a bregman michael brantley sauce on this fucking team and he's hitting three thirty four doesn't he lead the league in multi hit games or something like albuquerque's albuquerque's faulk probably with let's let's look it up real fast. I mean shit shit. He's he's. He's got to be closed on the list and he's got a nice little little history on to. I think doesn't he jared yes. Oh yeah there's the answer michael brantley fifty one multi hit games this year cottrell morte and rafael devers our next at fifty the apiece jared who you give up to today. I am giving love to sonny gray. Oh aw sonny gray in the month of august is three you know the reds are four no and his four starts he leads the majors gers within oh thirty eight e._r._a. He struck out thirty four batters. In twenty four innings opponents have a one ninety eight slug against him over that span hitting one thirty six. He's allowed just one homer. He's allowed. Just one earned run. He's allowed eleven hits in those twenty twenty four innings. It has been all the fourteen walks not ideal but leads the majors with an o. thirty eight era. I'm also going to show some love to josh donaldson. He'd be gargling the rainmaker. Yeah i fucking love him. I really do jargon the rainmaker. I always have been a fan you more so now <hes> since this july seventh he's hitting three eleven with a ten eighty one opium that ten eighty one p._s. Ranks seventh in the big leagues. He's right there with your don. Alvarez at ten eight opie s <hes> so lehrer brielle trout or shelhah nelson cruz cruise. Those are the only guys that have a jairo p._s. Than josh donaldson <hes> since july seven so this is a guy that <hes> he's got twelve homers nine doubles in those thirty eight games <hes> but this is a guy that came in on a one year deal and he <hes> <hes> there was no pomp and circumstance. There is none of that but he was a he was a guy that the braves necessary piece. I think that he's injected a life into them that they they lacked in the second half of last year. There's really been no major. Lull for the atlanta braves not that i'm going to credit an all that entirely too josh donaldson but having a veteran veteran like that in the fog it helps it helps a lot i was that was a meaty show-me some love <hes> earthy <hes> final thoughts <hes> final thoughts. The red sox had a scheduled walk off win today against the kansas city royals. What a waste of time that was it was a suspended game and <hes> they made. I'm sure the wags the wives and girlfriends of the red sox would probably why not happy about this because they missed out on an entire off day in san diego just to play the kansas city royals for forty five not even i think it was like twenty minutes to took twenty minutes to walk walk off the royals and send them back to kansas city so <hes> yeah what a what a waste of time now got to love the schedule. You'll makers suspended game. They they resumed they played. They played baseball at fenway park for twenty minutes. Today we got. We got one of those coming up against. It's the detroit tigers mike fires could actually <hes> like if he's scheduled to start that day he could actually end up winning to ball games one day love that kinda love it love that i'm just excited for all the interviews. We've got lined up that you guys have worked hard to <hes> to set up and i think there's a lot of cool stuff coming down the pipe yeah yeah something to look out for <hes> <hes>. We've actually locked in david cone. We will be sitting down sitting down with david cone. When when i get to new york next week that will happen also going to be sitting down with an individual who <hes> i i actually had the opportunity to stop and talk to him and cher a story that he is pretty cool because he was like oh. Oh my god see sobat you a guy who was very impactful on my career. You're in a way that i mean really not a whole lot in the vein of actually playing baseball but in how to kind of go about things outside of the game of baseball <hes> so i'll be sitting down with cece as well when i get to new york next week so stay tuned for those two interviews one david cone and and c._c._c. who love it jared have a fun trip i will they'll be delightful. We shall see. I think i'm going to be sitting down with kirby hates. The padres and i don't know we'll see we'll see what else we can finagle out there until tuesday huh.

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