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NFL Week 9 +  Special Guest & Best Bets

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NFL Week 9 + Special Guest & Best Bets

"Thank you for listening to this podcast one sports net production available on Apple podcast season including my Lakers and more simply put wound cast one for fifty percent sign of phone don't miss out on all this incredible a four pod GSI now the Promo Code is bowel the One oh one it's back you put in one hundred you get a hundred matchplay bones put in five hundred five one hundred percent Dabo and yeah it's got the restrictions of you gotTa do a a bonus but if you're looking to play it's great to get bonuses no doubt in every case they disappear but sometimes more than they should have this for twenty years so bad yes dot com we don't know how long the Promo will this was the most insightful pod we've ever had meaning if it was and a rarity Ah Green Button press on and if you don't know who he is famous if you don't know who this guy is you WanNa and you say rj too long well listen and then you have your notes welcome he's here is rj bell that's right and it's Week I'm Rj Bell Special Guests in the House to keep this one simple I'm this is more on me too because when you like the chargers right Yep then like that which it's Nice it's nice to win by the giants warrant any Special Coin Flip at that was the winner and then I block these around the closing line value grail I mean I don't Know Ju- especially with the neither do you think it was all weather not all-weather what else do you think it was so I was Japan is a word the answer award and out blamed for listening to Faz on the browns now to me the Kansas had a normal rogers game we cover Kansas City wins yeah all right so bland I know how sick it is now is that the fact that who winners I was looking at in the last couple pigs but somehow Tampa was hundred forty yards when you're behind though game usually low back and they like the Tampa Bay Sti- was the lose close games so you've got let's just say I know by the way we're still you know Mackenzie how do we have our batting results I mean unbelievable took the bills I wanna be candidate I had a perfect way for now on the but bats and Brad had like sixteen picks and he was like eight and eight or saw the no vig shot what does all this Oregon how do they everyone I like that game and Faz you're part of the handicap so three and a half over Utah that was the like for me I give the quick hand little bones yes so the handicap and coming off a bye in his career he's eighteen in Oh straight up and I did the against the spread this is a team that's easily wanted covered four straight games but kind of a little bit phony you gotTa coach I'm a fan of off a bye but then Faz came and let's three of the last four at home and which without Tutut is and then they had a bye before the worst teams in the PAC twelve so to me I love that it's coming out of different ways I don't know and then the beauty is at oh I'm GonNa get three and a half so right there I got more let's say should be pretty good bye thank yep so fast you hadn't fire on that and then go now here's what's Filo behind the scenes let me just when you look at Faz in you know quite frankly six figures and beyond he does I would I could you know make decisions and it would hurt him tens in his short term and his sense of the long term value and a half is that the way they say you think one buck my had plus three and athlete one five yes so I mean let's just say some people not youth as necessarily but some people historically in this case it'd be that it'd be fifty bucks right MHM sub of the day so I say boom I would have seen that one of five if I hadn't mentioned it fast no no you would and I didn't say I wanted to one zero five if possible which doesn't seem like a go buy Katie do you have to hey do you want the bug eighty Brad you know you always get the best number of them were dealing plus three Nath mice Dr Ten or my Sitar twelve on that game like the peg I like the pic you still like Oh yeah the market light but wait a minute came when you came to Vegas you're saying you're moving lines remark the road back says still go to London art where have you landed on that I'm GonNa Pass on Tampa I'm gonNA lean to Tampa but I'm Passan I bet again you're not banning because I taught you out of it yes I listen to you that's Mark Bill has been to London seven straight times in fact some people refer to them as the London save hey we figured out this London trip you fly out late and we've Stachel but it's the margin if you look at the results in those games they've actually covered by was a six point loss catching three so it was a close loss against the spread now I calculated and I came up with plus Dan and RJ flipped a plus three in a my streets actually is gonNA here and not when down I'm standing next to him and he's Rj pointed me out like what's the thing and you know further I would say that the number one thing are you stansel now all of a sudden we can work with the smaller sample right I agree with the ATS margin go thought there's dead air podcast just feel we are we know what we do I like it on top of that I think Jacksonville got after does Shawn Watson in the earlier meeting a game that Jacksonville could've won outright back twenty nine sacks number three in the NFL I like it a lot Jacksonville not just you but some of the non film guys the guys the was held in started falling off it seemed like but the fill is against New Orleans although I watched the game and he looked somewhat inaccurate wasn't okay against the artem guys always talk about eye level is as a quarterback it's older in downfield he's always looking can be he can be wrestling a bear back there sometimes builder based upon that Game You could certainly see the swagger and him as that game progressed Obita that five am had a brand one too many brandies before bad behind every time what what do you what's your sick all right so you're okay with them off of one game though I mean what I'm saying is it just seems it's all one big story remember he's sample size and this is a significant addition thereof when it's so important you can't bat the jags or against him without thus we're just gonNA look at his Qbr every week ago it's not oh it's down oh it's up that's what you know Brad that'll be good for you when we get these guys that you Atla flavor will call now just flip flip has got the bigger hands little flipper is it now seventy eight and seven eighths yeah I've never seen it below nine saying naught unfamiliar the trip to London the crowd is there right garrity and let's be candid Houston one of the greatest weaknesses it would seem Lord I mean thank God we stayed off Tamp Brett thoughts on Seattle generally speaking rj well he starting he's starting his his presentation with the C. Though because this is what Fez does a lot which is directionally right his team's about but you gotta do always right is so proved to me this number I believe I just don't know if this line represents otherwise so fair enough Seattle gr great quarterback and Russell Wilson you'd expect Seattle to win more those games though I better than five hundred and coin Flip Games patriots historically and then there's things we've talked about this mobile quarterbacks have a higher leverage close games all right playoff games close games and a games like close I haven't checked at the just just because I don't want to be unclear we did you know plus or minus five games or whatever and then the browns were at the bottom and it was times the to some degree to finalize the point it's almost like overtime when you go into overtime if a team was favored by ten they got a better fifty percent chance to win overtime right autorite remember now and maybe I misunderstand you but we're defining uh-huh about this bell curve of right okay that's an interesting point but even if we'll be no correlation but again this is work we should do well I'm here to tell you I seven points or less Seattle is played a week schedule twenty-fifth toughest according last week Atlanta terrible team with a backup quarterback get outgained by one hundred Joie and they had to rely on so many of those close wins I mean was it Russell Wilson or was it Greg Yeah for so now the question is is Seattle this is an example of directionally being right I think except it's priced in a good point I just got crushed soon as I mean get Seattle hasn't won a home game by more than one point all year long but it's a sample size of three it just doesn't pass eh I I love this presentation he really too so so think about this guy's was four Seattle's home field is for you gotta say Tampa Bay is better to Seattle Seattle's overrated Brad must now if it's three you gotta worry about it but let's say it's basketball line six could you tag force bat at four who would you take and if you get an answer four who would you tie Seattle at eight I'd take Tampa Bay six sounds about right a lot of games it's really hard to win because the line's gotta be wrong ochre bet over no no no I'm actually a believer that a book it's commitment everyone thinks that almost not every almost one hundred forty if area poker did didn't even talk about a lot of poker way I would say the most influential book I've read up on gambling is the theory of poker and acids boards and again he's brilliant do I mean so it's one of those things I excuse I mean it's so simple it's really is one of those things where just teach you how to think I think except I don't think this line accounts for it and I guess the thing Faz you've got the numbers how many turnovers did he had two games ago last week he improved for two hundred two fumble all AH yeah ten turnover and if it goes zero you know I've never done this before a while I'll give auto three point three we mean now I need plus one hold are second what's they were while turnovers are also correlated to whose favourite and a game so that I mean rebound fourth quarter especially much better okay so you do realize 'cause win the turnover battle but you wanted to back them to to win the to cover the spread hold if you asked me any spread where someone's favored by seven or more if I or then type right because what how can that be you know what's scary is it probably will be a situation you're saying look at me it's like they're now it's GonNa be exciting while and being the current so the theory is there's going to be more teams winning the bad news I'd say bad now what's interesting is fest somehow got completely between the teams I agree they're still home field okay so no no no but what I'm saying is is what could be fool's and plus margin and say well wait this plus ten so teams mine is ten param and see what the record I I would bet any amount of money well no I I'm from the future okay he was a rock and roller I'm he was in a band they were playing in eighteen fifteen but it was not over fifteen and he was he actually was bleeding kidneys I mean now he's the squares dude you've ever I mean Yeah Yeah dance practice save the forty-five-year-old Tom he goes I don't think he'd say anything movie clockwork orange I just went around like beaten off square little skit on his show if sports it's big enough we're guys go around with clubs it's actually kind of like twitter just without the clubs remorse differences ten games or more so mice five plus five would be I'll take really not a ton of correlation but you know where there is correlation quarterback interceptions interceptions in the NFL. I'm guessing a winner Russell Wilson One Ooh do you know why I'm in this show the oil I of kind of the same price or similar prices regardless ETA minus thirty they don't adjust enough by the way I I have a prop that I love for me Oh my best bet so just to be clear Brad we what why P P I'm Oh and there's two ways a team reacts to bad in one of the things we should come up with coaching this is a good idea coaching scorecard index number but it's Vegas perspective who perpetuate itself where it's one problem leads the other I mean speaking Baker Mayfield he goes to twitter could you imagine ballot check team that now the biggest mistake with gas we've ever made it's time to move on I could he be more confident than he wise after the Patriots game and we got sect eight times against Jacksonville and was I like to call Saxon Martin so to me I never hear this I good taste dumb Akerson lobster yeah I just see them jets I never and then there's the next level was o Dono Team does horribly embarrassed college football with five star recruit night because they don't like being a big underdog okay and then he's saying I told him I didn't WanNa get traded and then you think they were chopping me like as long as possible until an awfully better job don't leave but you know they're wide receiver who into the last four so there's no extra motivation but there's no negative off with Miami doesn't feel like that not at all it feels like if anything less than a hundred percent fractional effort might be the right way to say to we taller the backup quarterback who actually Kaiser looks point we're seeing this guy is should not be nfl yup and if you ever wanted like say upside maybe not quite the same as the most NFL ready was Rosen. Yeah he's the I don't grading it I like them because of their draft calling was like but now there's been a couple of games that we've had fitzpatrick and now this isn't all that impressive but they outside it and probably should have beat Washington the best that they won the first downs by like seven yard or seven first downs games what is what is Miami's power rating now and what would Miami's am he's current power hitting a minus thirteen which already and I hate to my power ask adjustments to power ratings from any one week to another week I don't WanNa overreactive one I believe that Miami being thirteen point I'm sure I was leading you down a path music is not appropriate if the three games the last okay not all that impressive number two they have great stats yeah yeah so just to say the last more important housing if you have seven games you got four star and three at the end are they about even is the recency in this case if you can clearly define that the last three there was something specific uh-huh actually just quit I mean we think Brad I you won me over so the not running the same offense but now uh-huh what legacy players are or legacy coaches are with Miami cut Harrison or whatever and guess who and guess who comes around Miami Organization understands gays but gazes understanding do in a weird way if it's gazes I mean to me that doesn't change any young right right so you're boy in the Miami and unless people I mean coaching level minds where they understand it seems like Miami might have a information edge knowing gays but grace doesn't know the I think there's a real edge one way or the other no you were thinking motivational yeah motivational listen God is that at the end of the half when they've dialed up that blitz eight guys I've made a sub optimal call in they were aware it was a sub optimal call I believe like the type of blitz see in that case yes you know why because events is when the other way so you've heard this different story you heard nfl analysts cents is when you get it out at some point you have a situation where your opponent halftime what was I was I think it was renowned on Yahoo and on ESPN when this case yes coach high school football it'd be fine oh inner city to coach I mean he'll be driving them around on dates I like okay fast you can press a button no I like your analysis and we'll 'cause you pause back seeing ghosts it's getting sacked like the house is going to help and also what what was moralizing in a way to and to other linebackers are injured as well so now worse coming back every week that's how that will be the moralizing and Nowadays Star Show I've seen for you and me I got Jacksonville in London fry I have Tampa dream preview. Rj Bells Dream review eye rotation order you're going to say ooh look it's not getting point times three I definitely do not want to see Dwayne Haskins playing he had to play in the second I've got a team that's struggling as much as Washington you got a question whether they're going to rush anybody back name so it's GonNa be case keenum or Haskins more than likely I would say more than fifty percent hello got exposed last week buffalo gave up thirty one points to Philadelphia I tests said that buffalo is a complete fraud was just nowhere in the that buffalo strength of schedule Pretty Amazing jets think Buffalo's most certainly overrated and because of that I can't bet me it seems a little short and nine and a half of Haskins is going to be the quarterback I the ten and a half a split line if you will go then would go up to eleven with askins and maybe dropped down against spread this year as a home favourite in fact the last couple years one and five with Josh Allen it's because he was GonNa do and yet they still couldn't stop it and what has Washington at least tried against defined I defined beyond amazing guy gets seventy four Washington's a team that I'm not sure I wanNA lay a lot with because Washington's game plan is going to be run Sarah Ferguson who's GonNa start a total passer minute nine and a half and maybe if it ticks down WanNa on Buffalo so whenever you see a total that's south of forty and it falls be enticed into teasing some buffalo well listen guys I've sat back and skins is named the quarterback I think there's going to be a one point adjustment but question when all the Jim Jabir started with keenum always horrible I think that that you know as I've talked about Jay groome be the OC is the bigger loss the average quarterback forget that twenty eight named the quarterbacks ahead of them they twenty was his status Denver. I mean we're talking about how bad the is he real I guess any and again elicit from because you gotta consider all your supporting players but I'm and Kim well below him got Murray I mean I know I've got I've we're we're what's the numbers on his brand he's still eighteenth and Qbr right now it means better than or average pretty close because it has drifted numbers would say how can he be in almost dirty well the differential racing you agree with me yes I think that we could easily so fezzet number two Y- but you don't have them all tied or you taking them after when they tied you're doing it was tied who else is on that list yes so that brings him above Kyle and now I than him but again it so much I it's weird I don't know if does he gets benched when he plays well Fitzpatrick's the guy that takes on linebackers he doesn't run out of bounds he's kind of like a team guy I wasn't sucked and I'm sorry sorry no next game the first three interceptions of his career but to me he's only all by that back in the day then if oh my God yeah every like what mammals mammal aquatic mammals games by anybody imagine stretching the imagination again it came down to the statistical category except turnovers Tennessee was outplayed in that one so two Francisco so I- queried this up teams in the NFL that lose by thirty five in Sixty Games here Gimme Carolina here mice the three and a half I anybody all year long they had the fifth easiest schedule and I just read off the Alana their strength of schedule was the tenth hardest so have a Carolina team that's off a blow the rule if a strength schedule was brought up and you don't create some context because this is stupid the twenty two give the schedule is another way of saying level of difficulty right so a good example the even but McEnroe was playing on the clay and the wind was whipping up so it was team isn't being like the theories team's GonNa be overrated or underrated so the big pitch where's but we know what the pastors because it's so prominent in such a big deal I don't hear any like be a human because if we're GONNA do it or we could just print out the awesome Yeah Carolina Donald D did You mention them now I did not so now you're explaining to me how you create over strength schedule I mean is that what you just did right let we normalized for one team having the tenth hardest strength of schedule IMPR- how do we quantify and I'm not saying we can do this right now were using the football outsiders right now this is actually just the win loss a formula and what's for watch say versus twenty six same rain yeah is that if you that all the preaching you do about false finals and all that stuff by using wins and losses or binary and that's all that matters and I should not be saying that yeah because I mean the this is every ten slots worth or maybe is it every four and a half slots how much would that be worth I would I'm guessing let's say the stats that's one versus thirty two I know and I'm saying let's be clear one versus thirty two one twenty so oh so where did that number come from Phil from Philadelphia so every twenty dollars for six points now my thought is you were saying that was would we I think you just gotTa take the wrong number because the theory is name what would be worse team against the best team and then we would have some how high state in Massachusetts it's a bigger the fact that he just the fact that he did that I uh-huh known the numbers it's normally fifty though because Massachusetts our ratings okay twenty two okay so in theory then college oh three times more valuable per so you're saying how many slots was what twenty transverse yeah that's right you know I got to think about this all right let's just say this is right for a second and you're saying it's worth six points the extreme what's and you're saying this case it's GonNa be four four and change it would be from thirty the decimal point so if anyone's got ideas at our Jane Vegas but right I do think as the season progresses it gets more and more valuable it doesn't tell you and you've got to San Francisco Week one you're like oh I just lost on average team which is another really get those disparities because teams playing in the same kind of that's that's very interesting oh teams or very sharp next game I try eagles bears tasted the game the conditions were horrible twenty mile an hour winds rain did right so how much of this how much of this was philly how much was buffalo all mats so that's a big downgrade for Flos yes okay now was not the injured players coming back they're still injured they just looked gene was this an aberration in getting because if you don't have injured it could be the motivation we know they were motivated philly statistical fine we're we're saying forget the point that we're score we're going to look at the box score the final score was an accurate portrayal of what happened on the field perfect anyone by big number okay who've the luck from it but there can be lock whereas it's not so much that he couldn't see exactly because it was behind the big bag and cutting right was just the right decision Moloch yes the less obvious luck yes but I did not see that in this way you couldn't see okay the other thing could be match it could be struggle against a certain team not seem like there's anything tricky schematically Philly was writing they weren't just be that this team struggles those were about as healthy as they are throughout the season Philly was a little bit healthier but you're saying that's not the key yes go for both teams to throw the ball within that seems like a key then so what we're saying is oh how would you say that is against the rules it's against arose all of a sudden right before the the phillies secondary still week you know so I'm not certain of that these players about accept everything before this said that you know Philly the value of what I'm trying to do here we're trying to quantify we know buffo quantify yes because if it was something that was specific to this game or teams like the bills crasher and Winston goes off we can say nice game but we're going to discount it a little bit flow's got a good defense right public good defense rush defense is very good for thought I think I'm sorry I think we gotta try you do this Faz with the stuff that so touchy feely is all I mean and it's like okay maybe I mean obviously we were being funny the man that it feels like we're gonna be adjusting for things that should be thinking you know that should be part of the actors extenuating factors so we got to try to define these factors banner because right so philly putting up thirty one points in this game in really adverse conditions these adjustments aren't about going from that was a good performance to buy but rather we're talking about these actually my Florio and I were born in the same hospital if you can believe it yeah it my sister was born in Wheeling Virginia so when you have a pass like three miles across you know I live two blocks from the high rivers it was right there the closing rendered yards all year long against the chargers they dominated the line the chargers only ran a little over forty it is remarkable that Chicago offense building when they were up against it season on the brink they had just lost the the what a lot it was a team that in the middle of season lost to the saints by Forty One and still field goal on the final play that game gut wrenching just like how last season ended this Chicago emotionally here I don't think it's good no I agree in in he's I guess and he said it looks like Nagy's ready to this thing I've heard him say about anybody I'm not saying he was wrong I'm saying boy the idea there yeah post post game they asked him you know what it was windy as a forty one yard the field goal and then like the the no recognition they hey you know what maybe I believe it after all right but the pie gotta wipe it but it's gotten better okay but the league recognizes let's say you're wrong about a cat I mean you've a lot of card counting your day right I mean let's say there's a dispute subtle point about when display it when to do her and that situation came just for you and you made your apply the no isn't that the case here I analogy you can have really close calls and who cares whether you win or lose no no no get off track go yes so the fact that the field got made or missed his totally irrelevant a greater weather is that you think Nagy was wrong it doesn't change the fact that I think we can agree instance the Angolan up by one if it changes there is no so what I'm saying is he could be wrong to me just that gain from that field goal percentage and it got from that distance purposely doesn't try to get any more yards were without clock risk being for eight seconds you could do it or not do that then the league averages for that distance for two reasons pressure at the end of the game green moment right I mean so I think that whatever the calculations analyst giant's game remember once areas takes the five yard penalty and then oh the eight yard or when it should be an extra point and I'm going to get I'm not going to get my contract extension to get burbs and it's like Brad Pitt's go restroom you never see him again they get to yeah exactly like she and just came out of nowhere I never heard that before I got an how bag there for the right time of sports because you've got the mad guys and you know let's be a lot of them are half I mean an honorary from the dog tracks I just properly quantify the factors right so when you have something wheel is fair you understand every mathematical element point two six percent whatever it is giving spot right so then it's all mad as long do the odds of it being off by more than one percent or this and more than five percent that using no they do though the biggest financial crisis the Russian debt stuff all again I'm no authority on this island I'm not but it's usually it was really was the mall will these crashes they never understood that when something's going take my money and getting in cash and that starts it becomes a vicious stake in the modern talked about this a ton of the movie called margin rhythm was wrong in two thousand and eight with Martin O. Okay I'm sorry yes whole thing and they figured it out first and they in big short depicted similar things right couple people figure it out this is all wrong US mathematically are GONNA be figuring out every and that's why I love batting because when you disagree akakide beaten up all day all year but I keep trying to educate bottom line is the music came a media guy you aren't making some big effort to sharpen people up no maybe seven loving everywhere else no he is better no he's not they don't even want to bet anything but roller coaster laid office all right the real question is is mahomes roller coaster it's all you can call it yeah who should be favored while depends whether mahomes is likely to whatever you like all right so I've got mahomes versus Matt Moore being an eight point mahomes now if mahomes plays it would be a leap of faith to assume there's GonNa be one hundred arts clearly. Kansas City is going to be favored probably around three remember I got a six point differential we saw Minnesota a significant favourite for most of the week will that just flipped in the last did I hear the Radio Park where we were talking about where the line and went up to the line had gone up to Minnesota it's quite strong and I I think it's inciteful but when we were on the radio today we and a half right yes minnesota favored so which implied mahomes could I hundred percent not to play yes and we told the world two hundred bucks for radio stations but what was the limits of Circle Right now five ten limit I think they'll take at it was done over yes to wasn't at the end of the show it was after the show yeah so your is it but the point I'm making is these markets are any would've taken some I mean it's what's it GonNa take to limit backs to get to three inch eh but he's after is it fair to say this is fascinating because this is something I think very imagine sportscenter coming out how cool would this be you know where there's like okay okay announcement looking at the odds at circa lawns go up to three the fact is imperfect makes it where it doesn't invalidate it times in a calendar year football other sports in which the line tells you something that would be indicator is what's informing doesn't get reported yes little name and we always start with what what is the starting time on this game rj pioneer there yes so it is a one o'clock eastern time that's when cousin shines thirty six and eighteen sure and I think that that is a much more significant factor than all okay I think here's the thing the time that that are distinction isn't there is going to be one o'clock gains where he does batter against good teams yeah the well I guess it would be an off game that wasn't a TV like a non ex exclamations was not a good word for me of why cousin struggles in certain so you're I guess the key will be the four o'clock games against bad teams duster o'clock gain Yep that's interesting anything else just going to be at less than one hundred percent yes so here's the question the the if it's based upon the six points okay so that's us in the normal no one's going to go a hundred percent immediately right now we're using imam's is GonNa play in this instance of that that's interesting the line at soda was favored minus two all right and we thought that was the line came out for the West Gate Right Yep and they had the line why not put the lineup put the lineup like pick them and figuring all the action those guys those guys are better at that than I would be now within about three months I'd be better they got a deep bench there I mean they got some you know the second third guy there for like typical even bigger book that one location the depth of ever which I love right let's let's bat and frankly I hated it when the West Gate would originate someone has the guts to do the world opener they have high confidence you're saying that when the West Gate would do in another market West Gate was much more accurate than Chris I mean there's going to be traffic down there but they make they make the most money right yeah because no one cares about the wise guys fries unless wise guys can help them I think sometimes it's even a little later at the West Gate Indus- The ratio over I yes and it went to three and a half the oh so you're saying that we were going around screaming had had moved back yes so you'll know why my my my my screen wasn't updating if you're talking any lines on the show I want you to have the screen in front of you I don't want you to talk lines anybody who've it up and put it on the table right and it's right there or get yourself in an I'm an IPAD couple of years old yeah so it's good I want you bring it in and download the Dombass to just too expensive I have an iphone I have you know do realize information is information was my best bat dolphins on the other way favorites flipped Brad you gotta like here I like Pittsburgh here I think what I liked I liked what I've seen to touches of a backup quarterback was the market line was expected to start your the way you sat it if I didn't come in and help everyone if quarterback Pittsburgh dead their Dow fourteen nothing and the fact that these fourteen the expected to have yes they did but in this instance I don't expect since two thousand eleven four against the spread average cover by four mhm somehow you got a magical teaser this bringing this a seven and a half yeah point so we're gonNA tease Pittsburgh up to plus seventieth teaser with Jacksonville up the plus seven several London games that have been blowouts but I'll take a look at the Bay sir last so if there ever is a team but there's one team that doesn't have various this year it's so brad maybe after you do your presentation like Pittsburgh and I I I'm sorry I had to respond to have you do if you jump there in author also underrated because T. Y. Hilton Mac both those guys missed a game do me a favor between noon it's not noon but we'll look at the call of my God it's h one so it's between H Y I think it's GonNa rain because the cloud it's seen a sign that they're underrated if not all these stories about why you get to the Lord okay the Grad you have that number we'll give you time to think seventeen so what I found stunning no I reread it like three times. Rj know that I would team came oh now under Flamingo maybe and Hang I my house would be gone yes teams okay I guess that's the last call how much would I if I if somehow you oh yeah I mean yeah I'm like wait a minute I just read that uh I actually he always picks up I would like to I spy weakness I mean I just to me I just feel the steelers the absence of Alan just gets a hung jury on bulletproof that's how they think driving home moorhead good I to me it just feels like the you don't think those guys are getting back into old MoD look we're winning we're winning I don't think did you replace them with the undrafted guy now in a way though I think this is inversely I think the motivation side of this is bigger and I trust you as far as understanding Pittsburgh's Tom was going to do a good job as the underdog I'm not talking about the one point yeah because to me we're home underdog because we're not that good but you would think it would motivate them I don't in a way to save the line move I may have a new price based on the market I signs raiders raiders at home favored by to Fez you gotta like on got to tell you my first inclination negative you look at all those miles that you not new to the pod but rather you kinda went at it as if people and when I think about a baseball team or an NBA team you've been actually away from home to an NFL now hold on a second neglect is an interesting word let me they really aren't neglecting anything neglecting is willfully decided not to give something that deserves weeks I mean they've been home they had their by I think I'm over initially I overreacted there was too much I think more think about our Jane how did they play on this this here's coming home and because of that I see no reason to dock the raiders are okay so the theory is that the rate that some people our rating say what raiders minus three Count Homefield and everything should be favored by three no I really do I don't think so I think it's more that the raiders as much as you think there's excitement playoffs if the if if things ended today they were what five did and they just think the lines are a little bit better and the raiders don't even have a three point homefield do they daily or weekly during the summer we said it was kind of historic we never seen a team daily and season win total and now that I looked there upcoming schedule Detroit I think it's a team that I honestly I bet against them last week and they now I was on vacation and we're after his long Spiel I'm like here's the question or life Cantu plus to his Savon he'd give me the same look at this point he's given up trying to I'm saying I don't think the marketplace is enthused agree I can agree with that so here's the make it down this much right you know what else I think it is and as McKenzie you before he's a smart cookie Mackenzie just spicy you have to have that healthy then the world just bom Bom Bom and then finally you get to a place shaw shots fired people about how dumb Gruden is near the ten million dollars a year guy that dumb dumb taste makers the influencers are mostly Wanna be math guys or they think I don't understand basketball chuck I mean well what about you got one of those I do so how I think the lines right I think the lines might be a little

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Queensland Bail Laws Questioned 28/01/21

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02:50 min | 2 months ago

Queensland Bail Laws Questioned 28/01/21

"In the newsroom at news dot com andrew buckler and this is the latest from the newsroom. It's thursday the twenty eighth of january. It's been announced. The queensland boda will reopen to all of new south wire from the first of february the queensland premier anastasia pella shy made the announcement live on breakfast tv this morning. But she didn't tell the new south wales premier beforehand instead it was left to j. spend fordham too. Bright and use to gladys berra gigli and live on radio park until you the news right now if you want for it what he did i. Coins land opening the border from february one monday. As why is it. That i've got to break that news to you in the premier from queensland. Didn't call you direct okay. That's important thing is thrown out main. Tens of thousands of people have signed a petition to the queensland government wanting lows around re-offending drivenow tightened. It comes after a man and a pregnant woman was hit and killed by allegedly stolen copying driven by a seventeen year old. who was high on drugs. The tonight dr. It was out on bail at the time for other driving offenses now the petition for law reform including lunga penalties for re-offending juveniles and time in prison without parole. It's been signed by more than fifty five thousand people so far now health authorities in china and now testing residents rhinovirus doctors claim the invasive procedure can be more effective in detecting the virus the nasal swabs now china covid nineteen. I emerge just over a year. Ago is currently experiencing its worst surge in cases since last march. We'll be back in a moment. Already to show biz news. Now when pamela anderson has tied the knot for a fifth time it's been revealed the former baywatch star secretly married her bodyguard. Dan hayhurst on christmas eve. Pam was first married to motley crue. Rucker tommy lee. She then married kid rock then married. Rick solomon twice and then married. John pitas last year who she was married to her for just twelve days. Good luck to them. And in some sad showbiz news oscar. Winning actress has died at the age of ninety four on sport. Now and former test batsman michael clock has questioned. Why national selectors did not discuss. Tim pints captaincy following the series loss to india. Pain faced a flood of scrutiny threat. The race and test series for his inconsistent club with questionable field placement. And paul use of the drs but despite that selected me that they didn't even discuss replacing him as captain for the upcoming tour of south africa. Clock said he had no issue with the slickest backing escape about reiterated. There was undeniably room for improvement which shouldn't be ignored. That's if these episode of from the newsroom. I'll be back tomorrow morning with another update you headlines dot com.

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Brandon Scoop B Robinson appeared on Instagram Live w/ @HoopsintheSun | May (2020)

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51:19 min | 9 months ago

Brandon Scoop B Robinson appeared on Instagram Live w/ @HoopsintheSun | May (2020)

"You are listening scope, beat radio, and on wherever you listen from you and your loved ones a safe during cope in nineteen period. Hey, this is the produce scooby radio DJ meal. Like timeout to give a big thanks footer listeners to pop. We did record numbers last month so on behalf of Scorpion myself think for four years of support in Brandon on his media. If you have a few minutes via. Please fill out a shortlist in a survey to scoop radio DOT. COM, slash poll. We'll share your opinions about the show, so we know what works and what we can do better than at school fee radio DOT COM slash poll S.. C., O., P., deliver, be are a do, dot com slash. He owns out. Don't worry if you didn't catch any of that. Lake will be into description. With pointed while. Are Real quick I'm against, Koopman. A quick interview with my boy scoop. We will talk about the last dance Mba up-to-date and also struble Skopje radio. What's up y'all universal file was baby so to you. Train with GP was good. Do Love. ME. About, tell all our you know. Listen I. Appreciate Your Patience Senate Today Taco Tuesday so at a at my working today. Dot Gov do. y'All I got you on, appreciate shoot. ME. You shots you ready for the early August. Outlawed, Jersey you. About the last dance. Really added myself for the original official the official. Thomas. Came on a liberal I. Do, not so. I know I know I wanted. I wanted to come to respect your time, but I also wanted to kind of jump into it so. I, know you had a big basketball fan. Avid basketball fan done this for so many is what was your take the last anything particular that stuck out to you. On this wonderful documental. While to be transparent with you, the ninety seven ninety eight season was actually. My first year, covering the NBA of the twelve year old match asks me. There were some things. That even a twelve year old probably understand. Is Thing. Was the. Scottie Pippen contract portions. Outs yes, yes, I was around the Bulls like in the tomorrow. Arrived in Michael Scottie or excuse me. archerd long the all. I didn't understand the process of the contract. Length of in math was never my best. And you know kind of reflecting on. The Bulls Micro Rather Scotty sign that contract right after they won their first championship. Who knew that they were gonna be what they were. But fig if he's a Kranj guy. We structure it because he's the Frenchman's got blood. As my mother would always grown up only thing for TV you. Life is death and taxes. They all many. Salutes amount of school worse so I mean. That part of the part that stuck out as as stuff I knew. UNFOLDING NOW! I knew I'll tell you briefly. Isaiah shared this with me personally. Champions don't talk about other champions. and Michael never publicly said anything about, hit. Right Scotty hats. That being so. You're seeing different things that have been. Talked about even as recent as last night or yesterday Jack McCallum releasing audio something you Michael said. is about that. Yeah, you spoke on the phone had lived. A year-old on about an hour, just discussing process because some of this was before my time, so. Did layers of all. The stuff is coming out. It's interesting to observe I. DON'T WANNA compensation, but these got without. So mean you out I. Really Want to get your. Perspective on the last dance. I know that. This is simply to defense. And ran into working. Office some odd years we got to tournament connected. Basketball's our. outfielder sports will be on his because the last dance. Even that awesome. Some programming has been kind of like shutdown. Just. Tell us to get to a common. Copy what places sports because right now against how the NBA is released, their revised going to be doing so baseball. Other sports respectfully You? In vain. Coast as spoken in terms of like. What you hear now is it? Is it true or you still like it just like at it. Added a fluff to this could. The documentary came out I'll tell you that. I haven't concept was soaks. Within the League office about. What's going to happen next? Think you have to take into account? This is unprecedented. This is never been done like. At famara illness on my podcast Scooby Radio Park has discussed how the difference between quarantining in China differs from. The US and in the states you have genuine may do something different than California doesn't junior California. Maybe something different than Oregon or Washington State Obama. Does. Is China. Will Your quarantining Everybody's under the guidelines, which is why or getting Kinda faster results if you will or or or At least what they're telling you when the news. They're healing. is. America's behind while the place is because people are staying in the House and people are really knowing how to you know this And particularly my my Latino brothers like you would in nearly as African American. We touch like hub like. Dat Processes adapted. For us to not be able to do that, so a lot of. That being said. I do think that. Was a buffer. As people figure out what's next. But this is what I will tell you on. The League office has discussed not just disneyworld not. There has been talk of a Vegas as well one thing that I. Was that Vegas could serve as the western conference. One person told me that enough guide check, did you? That is being considered that basically western conference could have vegas-based there. The Eastern Conference could be the HUFF WAR WAR Disney world could be the hub for Eastern Conference. What do you think about desk? Mean right now. What do you think UNISYS? Reasonable genesis feasible gone by June July all these. Different teams coming in family educator even feasible when fans to write is. I mean I. think that's that's kind of a non-negotiable. Urgency on another media. Our meteorologists a medical doctor. Psychologist. We'll all work in that field and you know they're having problems. As far as you know. Just seeing patients more soaks from a basketball perspective is even more you know. Like I know that I I like my. I have a booking agent and they work particularly music and the one thing that they said to me is live. Nation has cancelled all of their their engagements for the rest of the year with Up until twenty twenty one. To buy stock in live nation, because little up. There you go. That's a good point. that. On y'all. I'll tell you. Is Is is a company that there as to north of testing? The vaccine bought stock in the back and Marshall's Archie. It's been rise about a day Johnson Johnson, adviser, or other companies while she looking at. Directly as question about. Just just the cancellation what I have been hearing. That the teams are looking with the League at large are looking to get players. Into some sort of training camp, either probably between the twentieth and twenty first of June. With Klay off beginning. I tweeted. A wholesome narrow AMAC holding it. Worth worth I'm actually going to go to Matt's where now just to make it easier. Why you let me ask you question as a statement that came out today at a multiple showing in regards to Leonard's response in terms of playoff scenario. How that kind of! Breakdown! Of that? Yeah, so Dan is. Daily concern was. If you resume the season I have. Let's say right now. A sixteen games deciding on, we'll do five games. He's trying to say I'M NOT GONNA. Come back five games. which is understandable, but do you feel and again you to? Do you see that the league will resume from where they started, but more ultra statue, or go right to the playoffs and. That's what's discuss so basically. I have it up. From what I. What I've been told will be from the day reporting. Twenty Earth's and it will resume through July ten now there are teams who are saying. Hang instead you go into those respective cities like Portland in Chicago more You can just go right aware wherever those games are gonNA be played in. That's where the strategy camp. Okay, that's the case back. Then this was discussed. Even back in March and April claims fiber six game season games to conclude now when you talk about. Damian Lillard in particularly out out of this kind of Bruce. This is kind of interesting because. They're in ninth place. The group made Blake's mattis taken there maybe three three and a half games the. Grizzlies Pelicans! In might be somebody else before polling might might be, so, isn't that? Isn't that route? So that five or six games. Loses all those games? You know so. It's a thing where those games actually counts with how Damian Lillard bills that that's as a penalty. He exercises his first. Free. Speech feels now John Wall you know echoed, say thanks to the wizard, a very different situation as are the New York Knicks coach right. If. There's a situation where it's a rocket. Something that. Special Dinwiddie proposed Via twitter where we didn't have an NCAA tournament. You have a racket like situation were a tournament. We have sixty four people or teams participate. We'll the Nixon. The Wizards and other teams can have those conversations, but. Family. They were if it happens, it would be five to six regular season games between July, Fifteenth and July twenty third. The playoffs Bentley in around around July. Twenty fifth August salvage, which will be the first rent is that a good is not enough time being too closely. With. About people chasing the title i. Five Games enough to get over two months of. Teen. You're talking about so you're talking about a team like cookers box the later. I can say that Legrand has been. Players on his team. You know quietly and. All. Those guys are working out individually. You look at the nets team. Locally to our region. Guys have been in different areas working out. Career has been in Arizona working out with his trainer. You have Kevin Durant. Who's been in the southern California area? Niclas nonbelievers was in South Carolina you had. The other big man. That's a jared jared our. Exit, so a lot of guys have been training individually I think. Marriage if you have the chemistry, you have chemistry, no matter how long you may be on Roger. By having in a situation like the Lakers with a box or the clippers resolving. This. TEAM LIKE MEMPHIS They could eat pizza tonight before coming next big kick some ass that's. And that's trying to get so before it gets to that questions. Some global kid media we are on perfect timing for new season. Just leave the season alone like S. A lot more money involved. Talk about a school gatty Lama money involved I mean they're really going to have to give up money. to this season ticket holders for for Games. You know the head of the GLADE admist. Advertising sponsorship. You know to not have a season. You lose for money. If you have season, you know you at least recoup. When you have a situation like. When you have a situation like the NBA finals or the playoffs? The! Orlando Disney world thing makes sense because they're broadcasting. I? Like it I. Like the idea. East Coast like you said is a conference. Everything is everything is included, but was so dated. Have multiple teams in different hotels and establishments and. I understand the logic. I can see it I. Just don't know I get. I'm not used to seeing game without fans. Disney situation makes the most sense because it's. It so filled that mission. Over reportedly said he wanted to palace like atmospheres Disney campus. Has Bilas Yeah? and. The Wide World of sports arena is on the Disney campus. The difference between that in Vegas this. Vegas they're offering the biggest strength, but you still gotta travel by some type transportation's at Thomas and mack arena, so they can summer league in Vegas. Yeah Yeah. If a situation where they still travel is not all inclusive on that campus. You keep traffic down the players by having it regionalized. So. How about Disneyland Callously? And disneyworld in East Coast Nissan else. That's an interesting proposal. I haven't heard anything. Yet so at the same time the Lakers and the clippers would have home, field or Hong quarterbacks just like your magic in Orlando and they're the eighth seed in the NBA Chicago so known that that's that's our. Assessment of art. It is interesting. A California like New York Toronto is very congested has had so to me is in conversation with people that I know in Vegas district has been clear, and it seems like it's been cool air flung. Sold for meat at me, personally baked as make sense, but if you have Disneyland by question is do they have an arena on the campus of Disneyland and I guess the secure bubble that they're looking for I guess, do they? Do? They provide that? Those are the questions that I would have to question Yup. Show with that being said is the NBA kind of landscape for moving forward? Not say anything an advantage what she can benefit what you to be hurt by cross, even though we already know two months gone cold it. If there was what what team still damn advantage woken up. Seventy sixers team has an inch. Ben Simmons as hurt. He was hurt blowing into the the highest. Which would stop play? was indeed right. His back was the mbappe chopped radio bj back, but embiid at the beginning portion of the season. PUT IT UP MVP numbers. In, so embiid was on that team. That had recently at the trading deadline. Order Glen Robinson the Sir. Or in some other guys will be getting the Cook on all cylinders saw a team like a team like our Philadelphia. The believes becomes what rested while I'm going. Else Brandon he's been optimistic just. A business is house. Another team that I think dentists the Orlando Magic in eighth seed thirty three straight wins going into the. Backyard. Backyard. Healthy Marquel fault under arrest. Era Gordon you know resting on Ethics Orlando Magics, definitely team I mean how Disney Disney. Disney gets they make. It's a files. Me You know I tweeted this the other day. If if the team that went the NBA finals, Wednesday said wind under be next whose devastating I'm going to Disneyworld wrong redcross street. Wouldn't that be a story, but anyway be cool. My Main Tj kids over. swaggie and That's the Homey. You saw. Out The out of the big dogs in the NBA like those teams that were like you know. Some would say somewhat would say for the powerhouses walkies. Elliott Lakers and sh- Lonzo full any team you feel. Made had a great start to see out was pretty to winning in. Now might get in because. I'm a Bronco Fan. This is obvious. Maliki Fan follow to buy magazines fourth hopefully. Blando Guy Kim. He and trying to let go because he said I. I'm to close in a before. I. Don't care the assery busy. University. Goats he's not chasing season each as the goat. So you know I understand that you know well I, WANNA shout out. Scott Machado. Yes! Yes. Does, the family chapel of the player in a part of this whole process as When the would nat proposal was introduced in article was raped by down sports as Pete Smith. Who was twenty year? Disney worker, and then transitions working no covering scores full time. He told me scooby. Radio PODCAST. That they wanted to make a really really simple in some of the findings were things that were discussed. It wasn't discussion that players will be able to bring their families with them because they'd be saying us. Or Lebron like you mentioned being able to potentially brands family. That's something that he has the option. For All intensive purposes now. This is the thing that gets interesting. Okay, you burn a whole bunch of layers. Their families and more, you don't know who has what. But the thing is be mandatory testing like weekly or every few days. which will be quartered the mandates or players? You're laying in his knee. World or playing in is one of Scott's question. he's two but shots. But it that that will be part of the stipulations about like testing families, and more because I know like when it first happened. One of the mandates with the players was. Don't any new family. That's why they can't stay with you. Because I know that there was an issue with rudy go there. They said that maybe other to these four He contracted the Cremona Navarre's. He had some family from out of town. Allowed different cities. You'd be number Utah Played in Detroit in Cleveland in New York against the Knicks. And in Boston against the Celtics One at East Coast. Borat Midwest swing. Yet at so, there will be certain fan. Be accounted for will be summer camp, you know. Our global community says covert happens on Auto Landau property lookout all Siamese and Condense together. Yeah, it's allowed to consider man and I think it's very difficult NBA to call it quits, but you're. They're trying to recruit them money and I think the other thing is you know in addition CDs Games being pushed through the summer. You also have the finals which owns if there's five game regular season while as playoffs. You're talking about a September seventh of potential September, Seventeenth. Her Twenty S the finals. Made will draft coming five days later on September twenty bit. Starting October first. NEW SEASONS AUTO I not free agency free agency. Opening on the whole. Of Of Sports, everything that's going on show That's the. Them drive is a talent twenty fifth. Used to be like in. June twenty fifth before July I always liked that Thursday June. Are Not question, be happy, fool! We got it to the question that any fans on here. Recently question could miss football chocolate off for a minute. and. So the question was out of the APP mentioned on his on his comment that championship coming out of La. Do you still, do you? You still feel that way. The Clippers Lakers. You have another gut feeling by go with. I still hold onto that theory. That is GONNA come through. the thing about the Lakers sources the clippers is. In your brother Randy. Crews at whoever wins, it should be Nash's next still. Waiting about that. I mean they said the same thing about the spurs in Nineteen, Ninety Nine, the nate into that building at dynasty I think the Lakers are. Have a certain window. Lakers have a two to three went down that the warriors get healthy and able to nab goddess. As well as the Brooklyn Nets, one hall of Famer told me are will be preseason. favorite to go to the final soaks and do think this is the year for the Lakers to win it. is going to be more difficult next season. In our allies to answer your question i. Do think that it comes through the Lakers and the clippers, but also I think. The Lakers have been battle tested so much throughout the course of the season. What was inning? it to new Rossel. Anthony. Whether it's. Coping with the death of Kobe Bryant. Over. The comeback team. There's so many obstacles that have. Been in their way. But they've done it as a team throughout the course of the season. Ron James Anthony Davis had seamless earn. But then you can take this call coke doubt rebels struggle with his jumper. You had white our. Who was you know expected? Come off the bench who found the starting role while with the Lakers now and then you know found foul, really extra time because of demarcus cousins being hurt. You know one of the twins that to play. The Morrison's came in and then. The. Soy. This is a lot of that. HAVE THE LAKERS Everything is ignored a pause you everybody has. To come back in and clay competed still. I. I think there's an easy to opportunity as a good opportunity, but I also think that bliss sleeping on the raptors. Heavily. A gap. Not just the. Second place game. That had been battled tested without his arch. They remind me of the Bulls the raft retired. So! Pippen would typically. Tougher. Interesting. See to be mystery so important. You talk about the adult I leading to West Lakers clippers. Their lack of. Cohesiveness as a unit playing on the court together throughout the course of the season wars me, because as a team the way they are now, they have not been battle tested in the playoffs. I know the Biz individuals of various teams. Alby on side as They went told were world champions last season and the playoffs scare Patrick. Beverley is marks defensively. You can't sleep when in the clippers as as much as I think, the Lakers have been battled tested. This yet the clippers aping up. Managing Roster And, yeah, I mean for me on a massive quits unanswered questions in my Act Judas mighty key teams that was gonNA. Be In my. Championship game will be Lakers books. I also have an alternative will be. It will be the clippers and raptors or the celts Donaldson. Teams that you have going into the beginning season of Durrance all star game you by thinking. These team will be at the Pinnacle Joel. And how do you feel about it? Now, Flip Resume Susan. Bucks Lakers. And never I've never hyper. Say that it was GONNA be sixers like everybody hyping it at the beginning of the season. I think that the best look at the sixers heads was the roster they had last season. They gave up too much. You know you Jimmy Butler Jj Radic. You know. You. You also pay to. To Horford! You got device alive buys. But. They're definitely missing Jimmy Butler yet. Betty the eighty four to your business, and what are your best score is gone in a matter of APSO. I, I like soon a lot in terms of like where they make those recent moves on my. You can't nothing. You can't when these alone and without appoint. DIRAC incentive needs to. The tangible. I don't know who who else can street up those to those those two corsage right so? I'm with. Beneficial was this. A in the playoffs you saw it. You saw incentives Louis without the basketball to Butler running the on offense, and was really been to get to the CU-. when he's not at role, you give vocal viable scorer i. tell people retire ways his shows. He hosts the basketball. He holds basketball. Light brand gives you the bass From Oregon Yeah, true true, so so, what so what? You have now with this whole element of surprise what you have. Is a changing. It's not. Listen. It Portland Father Way to get to the play offs. And they're healthy. Scary to me. because. This year. Her back healthy with mental Lillard Cacao. And he got other white boy. I'll Collins Collins. Was Conference finals last year. Without Lauren. Yeah so I. Right in without. Policy. Yeah so I. Mean I think you know to me. Portland up here. This is just the conversation which sparkling when I was out in la Sol instead of me. This. Year is different than years. Guys, you don't know who, even though you're favoring the Lakers. Clippers, not a guarantee. Virus. In Eastern Conference. Dollar, so you know lax lassie was was was not walkies Tommy in in there. or or Collide with just could be. LOOKING AT CO WHY? We mind. This. Season reminds me a wild last season. Her comes back motivated. Nicest way. Actually visit is. Growing pool that the broader that. 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White Affirmative Action (Seeing White, Part 13) Rebroadcast

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White Affirmative Action (Seeing White, Part 13) Rebroadcast

"Hey everybody during our hiatus between seasons as we get to work on season four were reposting are season two series from twenty seventeen seeing white a lot of you've heard it but we know some of you have found the show more recently maybe through are men season and if not yet gone back here see why the response to this series has been extraordinary an ongoing though were just rehabbing it into the feet if you've already listen you can always listen again or just tell some french broad i enjoy whiteness and the color of light it means so much different to me today than it did once upon a time i use dissociate why what the color of clouds or the color snow but now whether through my personal interactions door the media or just society in general unfortunately the color white represents power supremacy privilege that's catherine foster who lives in charlotte north carolina she was reflecting while driving in her car after the first day of the racial equity institute's anti racism workshop last winter i loaned kathryn recorder and after to share some thoughts 'em i see myself as as bad because i'm white and that's not who i am i'm a good person and every day i i fight the temptation of becoming jaded i don't like this feeling i wish i had answer but i don't i also gave her a quarter to dan plus guy i'm wondering if this class is approaching this subject from negative point of view we did go through some of the history of racism of all that went in to creating this but i tend to be an individual that tries to look at getting ahead from eight positive standpoint i do see people that don't have a bandage people that get stuck in systems and don't know how to navigate systems in it's more more about navigation then it is about racism it's about having the drive the will any energy to move forward you can't just lay back and say bestowed on me people have asked me what made you decide to do the scene white series they answer is a whole bunch of experiences and breathing and slaps upside the head over many years and then yes the stuff from the past few years but i highlighted in part one the police shootings of black people the dylann roof massacre unending drumbeat of racist incidents it's from so many corners of american life and the widespread embrace of trumpism and white identity politics among people who look like me but if there was a single day that sparked idea to take on white show it was the day in december twenty fifteen when i first heard the folks from the racial equity institute do their affirmative action tong it was part of that workshop which the first time i attended has a regular participant year in durham north carolina only some of what they said that day was new to me but putting things together the way they did that ninety minutes talk hit like well let's just say it will clarify that part of the workshop who's the number one reason i went back to and hurry i course year later in charlotte this time recordings basically i think so we're gonna get started dina hayes green is managing director of already i we've heard from her and her colleagues susan plus six several times in the series here's how dina opens the talk in question on the morning of the workshops second day asking how many of you are in here ferment familiar with affirmative action good so just let everybody had some idea about affirmative action then we agree that affirmative action was the executive order legislation that was giving people of color access the institutional opportunities a by race end include a gender said just sort of the you know sort of core component of affirmative action who knows when it was legislative around the decade you don't have to have the exact year but what decade without legislated seventy everybody good with seventy that'd be the nineteen seventies would be the century okay we're gonna go will will go back and look at that in just a minute she will return to question that premise but for the moment dina goes on without missing a beat how many of you are familiar with forty acres and a mule who's familiar with that okay so shortly after the civil war general sherman signed an executive order allocating some land forty acres to some formerly kidnapped and enslaved africans in some places and there's actually some documentation that there were some distribution of land around four hundred thousand acres dina doesn't say this but the implications seems clear forty acres and a mule could be called in early example of affirmative action or even reparations for the formerly enslaved african american people is only the government had made good on general sherman's plan was less known that was overturned a year later in most of what was distributed was confiscated in return to their original wide owners when it comes to government assistance from white folks though the follow through his been better over the years much better i'm john be when it seen on radio park thirteen of seeing white are series looking at the white so called race where whiteness came from and how it works affirmative action is up for debate again after reports the trump administration plans to scrutinize college admissions programs some surveys show the support for affirmative action among white americans has declined over the last few decades end at the same time concern about what some call reverse racism has risen paul in twenty sixteen found fifty seven percent of white americans believed discrimination against whites is a big problem is discrimination against black people in this effort poll forty five percent of trump's supporters said white people face a lot of discrimination only half as many trump voters said black or latino people do can't wait to hear what gender i have to say about that if you've been listening to this series you know are premise is different racism in america america is something white people do because white people pretty much have all the power and control institutions but even given that assumption there are nuance in different ways and understanding what racism does early in her talk that day in charlotte for the forty people sitting in a big circle dino hayes green reminds us of the way is typically understood we say that we have either learned her been educated toothy racism as individual axes meanness that it's something that harms people of color and that we can see the oppression we have programs and we have projects that are focused on identifying and examining that in other words were used to seeing racism as a system or an attitude problem that hurts people of color while leaving us white people alone it leaves us free to do our thing to make are mark in what we generally like to see is a meritocracy but as dina is about the show for many many of us in their ancestors being white men more then just not being harmed by racism it's often meant getting stuff dina gets outer markers and starts lift on a flip chart she says the handout started early long before they american revolution suzanne covered yesterday sixteen thirteen that john john ross without first tobacco magnet am tobacco is land and labor intensive dina first talks about an enticement way back in sixteen eighteen to come to the colonies and get some land so the head right system created in england to addressed the labor shortage judge in virginia was giving people fifty acres of land or two units which would be one hundred acres of land for anyone that was willing to cross the atlantic ocean or pay for someone to across the atlantic ocean in populate the colonies colonies got that the head right system sixteen eighteen free land only europeans need apply tina's moving on no time to linger there's lots of ground cover here seventeen o five are you familiar here with the statute in virginia that required masters did give wide indentured servants fifty acres of land thirty showings ten bushels of corn and must get anybody heard of that it seems most people in the room myself included have not heard of that unlike like the forty acres and a mule for black people freed from slavery one hundred and sixty years later this gift of land cash and food for freed white indentured servants is not overturn you might remember seventeen o five the same year the house burgess this past the virginia slave coach those laws locked in a brutal system of white supremacy by giving slave owners sweeping rights to control and even torture they african people they owned and making it illegal for black people to employ white people these two legislative moves the slave codes and the payments were white indentured servants drove a hard wedge between poor white import black people who had sometimes joined join forces against the white elite why do you think after we talked about what happened in sixteen forty with john punch in african running away with a detriment ns scotsman sixteen seventy six beckons rebellion gather people people of every description that saw themselves in a similar condition why do you think it was necessary in seventeen o five for this statute in virginia that required masters to give white servants fifty acres of land thirty schilling ten bushels of corn in the mosque and that's right that was part of this all class collaboration it's like given something they don't give him something they're all gonna get together and takeover mom dina goes on this way ticking off government benefits set aside for white people know post revolution in the united states of america seventeen eighty five the land ordinance act because we had been taking native land for over a century by any means necessary and distributing it and it was a very informal process but it came with some problems there were border disputes and overlapping claims if you're just so the land ordinance act provided a clearer system reporting formerly native land into the hands of white settlers this what six hundred and forty acres at a dollar and acre was part of that the committee the drafted the land ordinance fact was led by thomas jefferson the noted anglo saxon us the law helped to build a nation of white landowners it's also how we created the sort of townships that we have there would be thirty six square unit a unit number sixteen with set aside for public education so we can see if in seventeen eighty five we've made some contribution some thoughts around public education and how necessary what the public the public education system designed to serve white children not enslaved african children or native americans fast forward the homestead act of eighteen sixty two allowing people to claim land free in the rapidly expanding united states at first they act excluded the vast fast majority of black people in you ask because you had to be a citizen to participate in enslaved people were not eligible for citizenship until passage of the civil rights act of eighteen sixty six the homestead act ultimately transferred ten percent of all the land in you as regular citizens that land went to white people disproportionately because of that initially exclusion an because of racist practices and the distribution of the land but many families of color colored did benefit at least temporarily the homestead act helps explain how african americans came to own fifteen million acres of farmland by the early twentieth century most of those black farmers would lose their land though in large part because cause of twentieth century racism usa agriculture department that wanna skip down here and talk about something that's reached into are live nineteen twenty nine eight the president's hoover's presidency the stock market crashes five thousand banks close people were losing their jobs every day franklin delano roosevelt is elected in nineteen thirty two promising new deal the result is a raft of initiatives it go on to build a massive middle class will in the united states if you want to buy a house prior to the federal housing administration that was created in nineteen thirty four what were the terms how much cash yes a lot fifty percent so you have fifty percent are more paid in cash at haven't paid off in ten years less than ten years and usually the terms were three to five years so homeownership what's really reserved for wealthy people a lot not a lot of people own so the federal housing administration changes that it allows much smaller down payments and thirty year mortgage we now take for granted low interest rate loan mortgage payments created a demand having that we had never seen before in this country homeownership went from around eleven thirty percent almost seventy percent so it almost doubled where the new homes being built there being built in the suburbs every economists will tell you for working class and middle class people homeownership is the most powerful way to build some kind of wealth to pass onto the next generation but famously government policies pushed the practice of redlining giving those f aj loans to people predominantly white neighborhoods and communities and refusing to loan to people in mostly black areas generally be only places black people were allowed to lift you don't loan here you don't build infrastructure you don't develop so they wouldn't be destroying the value of inner city housing for decades and they would be increasing the value and sustaining the value of communities and homes that were a white people own outside of the central city area between nineteen thirty three in nineteen sixty two they would give out over a hundred and twenty billion dollars in home loans business loans be inflation calculation elation says the impact of that hundred and twenty billion dollars today would be the financial impact of two trillion one hundred and fifty billion nine hundred and forty nine million six hundred and eighteen thousand three hundred and twenty dollars and sixty one cents over ninety eight percent of that went to white people were not through social security it helps all americans now but when it was first created in nineteen thirty five it excluded domestic an agricultural workers who of course were disproportionately people of color two thirds of all african american workers were blocked from social security until the program was expanded in the nineteen fifties next one of the most massive policy initiatives ever undertaken by the usa government with the servicemen readjustment act of nineteen forty four better known as the g i bill of rights among other things the program sent veterans of world war two and later the korean and vietnam wars college on paper the g i bill made no racial distinctions button years dina again what would they education climate like regarding race in the forties fifties and sixties segregated where where where where did men of color have to go to school historically black colleges and universities there were not a lot of historically black colleges and universities mo the most of them were teachers colleges and agricultural schools they couldn't meet the demand of people coming home wanting to take advantage of a government sponsored education why schools were letting them men so that meant white people came home and had access to government sponsored education in ways that people of color didn't have millions of mostly white man got higher education through the gee i'd bill and became engineers and scientists doctors teachers in the g i bill also send people to trade schools and helped veterans find jobs but here again men of color were at a disadvantage because of the military's he's racist practices back then in assigning jobs within the military so when people came home and that with a job cancer a local jobs countered their duties for the lineup of civilian jobs at math skills you again in the military white men came home it became builders there's in welders and mechanics and men of color came home it became dishwashers and cooks and that has been a multi generational situation for their families so it just it it pains me one we do wire people port and people talk about people's choices and mindset to say that it's just the way they think that's responsible for their condition from its passage in nineteen forty four until nineteen seventy one the g i bill spent ninety five billion dollars on veterans helping them by homes get vocational training and start businesses in his book when affirmative action was white political scientist eirik cats nelson writes the law needed southern support to pass in southern white lawmakers made sure it would be administered at the local level and would respect the quote unquote customs of jim crow private mortgage lenders employers in trade schools turned the way black applicants so even though some people have colored did benefit from the gi bill overall effect of the law cats nelson says wister vastly widen the wealth and opportunity gaps between white and black americans so in white families money travels very differently it travels from parents to adult child in the form of some kind of assistance not big trust fund but it might be that i can give you a down payment on a home i can help you with school pay for it or give you some assistance by you're books i can buy your car so you could work while you're in school i have a home that you can listen while you're saving money i have social security as you're making your way and paying your bills you don't have to take care of me on your father in families of color because of this history money travels from adult child a parent looking at all this history together is not hard to see why the median white household today has thirteen times assets the wealth of the average black household in fact because of this history they average white family headed someone who never finished high school has more generational wealth more money more assets than they average black household headed by someone with a college degree now i wanna go back and say ask you if affirmative action is race based access the institutional resources and opportunities one without legislated sixteen eighteen is this affirmative action if you're white you get fifty acres of land thirty sailing symbols of cornered the market solely based on the color of their skin not for any other reason what about the naturalization act of seventeen not as if you're white you become a citizen this isn't about anything except the color of your skin not merit not hard work not meeting the criteria just being white the color of your skin you have access to along you have access to a neighborhood neighborhood you living this neighborhood if you're white so what's this country built on affirmative action for white people at the top of the episode we heard from two white participants in aria workshop i sat down with each of them after dean us talk i can't find anything in it to be proud of who i am an even though my story or my parents story of my grandparents story is reality wasn't built on lies or do you know what it feels like to be the last to find something out everybody around you know something that you don't know that's how i feel catherine foster is forty three she told me she'd been required to attend antiracism workshop as part of an internship she was doing at the time i'm an intern and i'm also a quarter point a child advocate for abused and neglected children an i am working on my master's degree for social work because i want to i want to vacate for oppressed invulnerable groups katherine tells me she's married to an african american man they have children of color and living in a predominantly black neighborhood in charlotte and yet or maybe older more because of those facts of her life catherine this hit hard by dean dean us talk about affirmative action and the workshop in general one thing i would say about this experience is it can give the over all sense of racism beings much much deeper and more pervasive than than most of us think is that is that one way of saying what you're feeling yes yes it is it's much deeper and 'em very hurtful in just a pervasive pattern that i don't know right now what my next step needs to be the help stop it the truth of the matter is is this is sensitive anson more sensitive for some people in is others an i just really don't know what to do if what's where i am right now yeah the issues and the history are more sensitive for some people than others 'em you know i don't think that i had any real particular reaction to be of firmative action action thing band plus guys sixty he's manager of the risk management division dealing with things like insurance for the city county in school system in charlotte surprisingly to me he said he didn't learn anything new from dean this affirmative action talk while driving into the workshop that morning recordings audio diary dan had talked about his attempt a few years ago to start his own consulting business the business didn't succeed i could not take advantage of some of the programs that are available for minority and women owned businesses and that makes me question whether or not that mechanism really is fair i have a fundamental disagreement with that but if it's put together an deemed to be legal i have no choice but support those type of activities dan is originally from milwaukee wisconsin he says there was economic stratification among white people to and he talks about the anti bullish sentiment that some people in his family faced in one time he seizes on a couple of things from the workshop this seemed to undercut the central point that white racism toward people of color is deep big problem the central story in american life one is the topic of color ism within the black community that came up during one session the thing i think that it opened my eyes to very much was the fact that racism exists even within the racial groups and i think it's something and that maybe we don't talk about an during a talk about racism toured asians represent her mentioned stereotyping joke the chris rock told during an oscars broadcast i really appreciated the fact that when they they talked about chris rock mocking asians that that is not okay end yet he was not called out for no nobody said anything till a number of days later in i've had some real issues with chris rock thinking that he can pull off african american black jokes that if i tried to say something like that it just could not fly would not fly in so there's a disparity there that i have a hard time equalizing in in figuring out so do we have problems absolutely we have problems but it's not just black white asian white it it's it's everybody hey gender i how you doing hey what's going on john how you doing man doing all right but i just have you know my question for you today is what are we gonna do about all this reverse racism out here yeah reverse racism ginger raccoon manuka media scholar at rutgers journalist and podcast her organizer sir and artist as usual in the series in i got together on the phone unpack things you know i don't know man i feel like when it comes to racism i'm like black people we've we've probably got some catching up to do if you're gonna die and i mean way institutional arrangement do black people control where we could be enacting reverse racism right i just i mean even if you can like think of something right now this is two thousand seventeen we do it right we really need a time machine like the comedian emma rahman says you have to go back in you know we'd have to go back in a slave white people white people then he released the first lady like share cropping and then incarcerated and then we'd have to invent something like jim crow you know something like pitching crow us up man then we'd after like red line and then we'd have to like you know it it it just it seems like we're we there's so much catching up we'd have to do to reverse racism you know yeah four hundred years and you get a lotta yeah so i you know so but i mean there are some areas where all my little in my little universe did i control i might be doing some things that are like you know a little funny like so for example i i don't i don't i i would knowledge i don't go to why barbers racist you is true i it doesn't matter how good they are you know what i mean well yeah i mean it's not just it ain't just skin color they gotta be able to cut don't get it twisted i mean there's a lot of black barbers they can't cut but you know i you know i would never i would never explain why i'm not gonna say never say never but i don't i don't have a plan where i'm gonna experienced the white barbecue cut so on that level they might have an argument about reverse racism okay well and yes you told me about thee micro reparations on the treadmill this right but a okay so what did you hear in any in reactions to the workshop from from the folks that i talked to the white folks who were there a as participants kathryn dan yeah well you know i mean i would catherine i understand where she's struggling with it so lots of process she just got all that knowledge dropped on her by teenage green at i mean if you're just like have you been living with this information or stuff like that for a while maybe it's not as big of a deal but if you if you're just getting that in your whole used realizing like man your whole identity as a white woman in your whole world is built on lies and you you know a kind of oppression to grapple with that really an honest way this means you have to find like kind of find a new way to be in the world so i get that and you hear her kinda struggling with that what i hear what catherine 'em but you know my empathy has a limit because so many of us have been already living in that world so i think i think do about the privilege for her to be at whatever age see that in just kind of coming to grips with with this and then the other thing is yeah i just think about how much was needed to bring her to appoint facing some things about this country and about whiteness that a lot of people are already get i mean she had to be in a workshop that she paid for and then be forced to listen to like this history since sixteen eighteen and then all of that just for her to begin to grappling lingo maybe you know maybe whiteness is maybe there's some you know and it's like i you know i guess i'm glad somebody is doing that work but i don't know if it's worth are energy is black and brown people to drag and folks kicking and screaming to acknowledge some you know some of these basic facts yeah i guess what you're saying it feels pretty overwhelming to think that if you you can have any a workshop that is that concentrated you know in terms of an end that kind of well done and just with this serious dose of information in how many people can do it right that's what it takes an end apparently the aria is in great demand and they're doing these all the time i'm glad but then dan sits through that session and apparently is completely on moved oh yeah man and i guess what i heard from dan with with all respect to dan a was a you know a kind of deflecting strategy whether conscious or unconscious and you know he says yes racism is problem including ding white racism but there's racism in all directions and you know he's treating 'em racism again this is just a matter of attitudes and prejudices so so black folks you know engaging in color ism or chris rock telling a joke of stereotypes asian people which let's be clear he he shouldn't have done that but dan seems to be kind of flattening things out so the those that kind racism is is the same as systemic institutional racism that has given most of the spoils to white people for hundreds of years right so it it it it also seems to be kind of a way of ending the conversation and when he said that well you know we all have there's racism that goes in all directions but what do you what do you think about this idea though that that you hear that a since we've had affirmative action in modern sense a now for forty or fifty years but 'em provide some kind of institutional access to people of color and women that that's you know by now hasn't that taken care of the debt and 'em isn't it time to stop all this stuff and declare ourselves colorblind from now on oh yeah well that's a that's a perfect way to maintain they racial hierarchy right like you you know you climb the ladder that's built on exploitation and then when other people try to find ways to make a sustainable life you then you kick kick the the the ladder of the way right and you're like oh you know get up here on your home you know it's like an end not just get up you're on your own but let's turned a blind eye to how we got here right so i you know i mean and i am i just listen to those moves that when i listen to like the mental games the dam was kind of playing as he tried to come to grips with this you ever hear that phrase watch white miss work yeah i actually i see it on twitter a lot yeah and i think in this series we've seen their whiteness works a lot of ways but in this space where there's like this this willful denial at the same time there's ignorance but then there's like this denial you know you could just look past evidence like dean aj lays out all this history all this evidence all these facts you name it each policy this this and that and then you just like yo you really just gonna look pass all of that and it's just like oh well yeah we sure we got problems i mean that there's something about that right and i think that when the cases may for you like that in you still cannot acknowledge what that means you have to flatten it out make everything even steven that's not somebody who doesn't and get it i think that somebody i mean on the surface it just looked like ignorance but now you now you can't say it's ignorance because this case was just may for you so right that's somebody who just to me that's not somebody who doesn't get it that's somebody who gets it in kind of refuses to acknowledge it because they have some sense of what they're gonna have to give up and they have some sense that this is gonna mean coming to grips with this means i'm gonna have to change the world i'm comfortable with yeah but but one of the things i'm curious about is i mean dan he heard this information formation dan clearly has a lot of things that he needs to learn but john you were in this workshop and i know you came to this workshop probably with a lot of information already about some of this stuff 'cause i know you reported on it and yet you said that it was i opening for you so i'm interested to know what was i opening about this for you yeah i guess 'em you know as i said in the introduction is a i had heard some pieces of this presentation button but a fair bit of the actual pieces of information i had never heard before mhm 'em in the end then it was sort of the cumulative a fact that it presented the picture that it presented a and i you know fritz certainly so it becomes more this sort of thing where you think you think you kinda know something but then you discover that you know it at a much deeper and more in a kind of different scale and so it was like first of all in one take away was just this at you know sort of being presented again kind of hit over the head with the fact that white supremacy is a feature a of the national story it's not a bug right as we've talked about several times at the country was built to be a nation by end for white people with other folks here as second or third class citizens at best if not as enslaved people who are simply being used 'em for the for the enrichment of of white people so did have that i think there are lots of things in our culture when you're white that are reassuring us over and over again that the country is basically noble the country basically sickly means well oh yeah and i guess that's my experience is having to learn over and over again you know the lesson that that that's a you know that that's kind of a dream because all those spaces where we try position america has this force for good and don't really wanna look at that history i mean that's those spaces where that history is being erased and where you know an and i mean james ball when said not everything that's face can be change but nothing can be changed until this faced in you know so for me it's just why is it so hard to recognize the way the white supremacy was built into this country i mean it's you know even a cursory glance at histories in the law it's in business in educational cannons what you have to study who you have to study it's in the so called justice system is just so baked in and then on top of that white people have fought to maintain that in so many ways through so many periods of history including now it's miraculous the it's even controversial to bring this up yeah but but give it but given that i get why that might have been how hearing this particular story about a you know of white support could be could be paradigm shifting or you know what i mean yeah you know in another another take away from me i guess was by hearing this history of government support benefits handouts whatever you wanna call it an end by the way i you know i'm glad that the government did these things where people i'm glad that the government created f h f h j and made it easier for regular people to buy homes and send me to a form veterans to to a college the issue of courses that huge numbers of people were excluded from these things because of racism but the but the history just puts into stark relief how truly wrongheaded it is that we have so much and you were hearing this termine i don't remember hearing it so often up until recently but terms like white grievance and in white resentment the fact that white people are sitting around having grievances on the basis of race is is in the face of this history is it's just absurd yeah and i mean i'm not you know when i'm not here to you know doesn't get me very far to be mad at individual white people because they don't get it you know but a dominant cultural you know logic where you just can't put stuff into perspective i mean john listen i work hard as hell my mother and grandparents parents were even harder than i do but if i'm being honest you know enough face the exploitation that produces the products that consume in that contributes to my income as a professor winters all these other people further down who don't do what they're supposed to get and all the hidden forms of women labor you know my family that makes it possible me from doing it possible for me to do what i do and i look at their cumulatively accumulated a affective that on historically the only logical conclusion is that i'm a beneficiary of exploitation right like i'm i benefit from it so of academic that and then i take some responsibility for that as an african american how in the hell can wipe some white people not do that like it's i you know well and it it takes me back to the conversation the last time we talked to when we talked about culture and there's just the culture of whiteness just doesn't a there's not much space where that is not it's not part of it very often is just this kind of let's take knowledge that that the life that we lives in is it is in very real ways based on exploitation of other people we don't we don't we don't acknowledge that the other word that comes to mind if i think about sort of what struck me about the experience and the talk was is complicity right that if if you're white and you've lived in you ask for more than a few minutes a you've almost certainly benefited from white supremacy and very likely in tangible dollars incense ways so if you're white you're you you know you can't really make the claim that having been on the sidelines and not a party to the story of a of exclusion exploitation because you have benefited from it and for that and so any you know whining meaning that you're doing that other people are getting things they don't deserve or you know in the end it's it's just striking to me that very often some of the most privileged and affluent people in our society are the ones who are most likely to be be upset but you know the poor people of color are as as dan put it looking to have something bestowed on them you know the takers was it mitt romney's term but this idea that somebody is getting special treatment are getting something that they didn't earn in the face of this history just looks silly if it weren't so profoundly wrongheaded i mean i think a lot of people don't feel party to it like i think a lot of people feel like they didn't individually discriminate and so they're not responsible but you know that's that's how attitudes work right like that's how individual acts of hate work but when you have institutionalized power arrangement that creates pass of least resistance that means that you've set up the society in a way well everybody has to do is go through it in a way that's least hard this convenient everybody just have to wake up and do what is convenient is the easiest and there'll be there'll be reproducing that system and so what it really means is that you benefit from the system eddie reproduce it just because you woke up every day and it was the easiest thing to do to get through yeah and and i think that that kind of power is and in that kind of process of benefiting is what we have to come to grips with doctor ginger i commend you are editor on the series is loretta williams next time the season finale we gotta take a break and regroup make some new work but before we go in part fourteen will look at the question of well in the face of all this what do we do how do we make it right or less wrong loving those ratings and reviews views on i tunes people you're words mean a lot to us and help 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559 Blaney Wallace Auto Club Preview

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559 Blaney Wallace Auto Club Preview

"This is the final lap weekly. Shrink the latest bass car racing news driver interviews race preview of billions discussion. Rumors and more. Now, here's Carrie Murphy until crispy just a couple of guys talking race. Cfl w Sonya found the place where we talk about all things NASCAR. My name's Kerry. Murphy, I'm a longtime NASCAR media member and syndicated radio host of all things the final lab Arcos for the show is Toby Christie NASCAR editor from final dot com. And social media director from all things at the final app as well as his own website. Go check that out at Toby Christie dot com. All right. Yeah. That's that's what they all do. Yes. Check them all out. Just while you're online just do a online VO nans of all things the lap. I mean, we're we're out there. People know who we are it does appear that way. Yeah. Which is a good thing. Yeah. Sometimes depending on what they're talking about that we said sometimes say, very smart things. Hey, don't forget. 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We're going to have best friends and Cup series superstars Ryan Blaney and Bubba Wallis on one program. Well at the same time or separate separate separate. Yeah. Together, been kind of cool actually, it would have been. But that's rough because they were you know, they they dry for two different teams. And and that kind of thing so yeah. And they're kind of sporadic personalities too. So I think it'd be hard to kind of maintain that interviews it's going, but if anybody could do it, the amazing Kerry Murphy be able to I bet it would be good. It's just like I said getting them scheduled together that be kind of tough. Yeah. That our PM team is very busy these days, especially at there at the race track. You know, you know, Blaney as own podcast, and he can get anybody at anytime. So which he wasn't even on this week. I know they had they had boxer superstar Suarez on there. Yeah. What a good poll for a for a step in host for this week for that show. Yeah. That's. Ironic actually, hey, the list of potentials for the twenty twenty NASCAR hall of Famer announced the aren't you? Why aren't you more excited? This is your thing. Once wanna see how excited you get. Oh, it's mostly a bunch of old dead people. So. Wow. Okay. Well, they're they're a little more than that carry. But yeah, yeah. You got to only Stewart in there. So that's good. So that's okay now, we're good. Yeah. Of course, he's all to auto club speedway. Race preview is on the schedule as well. But first, let's get into Phoenix. And before the race even started before anything really got gone first round qualifying Daniels. Warez was not like Michael McDowell too much on pit road. No, they weren't big fans of each other. Were you shocked at how fast Suarez took down? Michael mcdowell. Well, yeah. 'cause McDowell's was pretty big guy. He's one of the bigger Cup drivers, actually. Yeah. From a physical standpoint. And you know, he's he's what's funny is he's very nice happy. Lucky kinda guy very very religious and stuff. So you ever expect Michael McDowell to get into a scrap anyway of physical nature where it's like, well, it's a big guy. Plus, he's a nice guy and Daniels. Laura's is also very nice. We've talked to him several times on the shows. Well, and somehow, someway, the two did not see eye to eye, you know, was outgoing for a hot lap and McDowell advertently blocked him while he was making his attempt and Suarez did not like that. When over to say word to him McDowell actually through the first shove or punch. Everyone say it was and sore as dispose of them pretty quickly. What what's interesting is? I had spoken to Daniel not moments before that like maybe a half hour. Yes. So you did this. I have a feeling you this on. No. I was going to say he he seemed like he was in a good mood. And then he talked to you. We left things on a good note. So I don't think that was your any angst there. I've just saying the very next thing. He did after talking to you is this that is odd. That is definitely weird. It how weird is it that we see this kind of confrontation and qualifying of all things and first round of qualifying at that. Yeah. Maybe Daniel had a piece, and he was you know, kind of angry couldn't show. Showcase it. Well, and he was also hanging out with Ramos cheerio throughout the week the WWE superstar. So maybe that played the hand into it. Maybe. Yeah. Got the adrenaline pumping. Yeah. He was taking some tips and was like well, use these funny to insured up inanity rate. We learn something don't mess with Daniels. Warez? No, I'll be right and all positive things about Daniel Schorr going forward. He is estrus card Traver of all time, and nobody contends with him at all. Absolutely not. All right. Let's let's run down the top ten from the actual race ten to one Joey llegado right there. Kevin Harvick is the shocker of the race. Yeah. Not because he's in the top ten, but he's this far down. On the top ten at night. That's weird for guy who has nine career wins this race track. And he's got what six the last like ten there or something? Like that is ridiculous. Now this time last year. He had three wins in a row in his pocket. Yeah. So he doesn't have that. Now. That's for. Sure. No. So are we to worry? I mean, they are swapping to a new body, which we knew it would be kind of a struggle for them initially. Although team pit ski has not had that problem themselves. So I don't know. It's kind of weird all this is good. All. I am this is so good. So awesome. Oh think we all know he's not running twentieth in this one. He he nabs himself at a top ten eighth position for team forty eight and Jimmy Johnson. That is phenomenal. Is it not? That's a sign of things to come. I think he had a pretty solid race throughout the entire thing. And didn't make many mistakes, and he was there at the end. So that's what you wanna see from Jimmy Johnson somebody who's had a lot of times where he shot himself in the foot team has been shooting themselves in the foot and the cars of not being up to speed for a lot of those times when they're already shoot themselves in the foot on top of it. So the back they put together a full race. And got us all ten that isn't courage ING for people like you carry. And I think maybe you know, if they can show this kind of progress on mile and a half, I think this might be okay season for him. But it's still very early for people like me, meaning, you know, people that have forty eight shrines of their house and stuff. Shrines room where your child is allowed to go in. Has supposed to talk about that. Oh, hey at the top of the show is forgot to mention Marcus Murphy going to be on the program. Yeah. Yeah. Later in the segment, actually, really. Yeah. Yeah. Really? How did that happen? It just magic Kurt Busch at number seven. Then you've got to Kyle Larson. Denny hamlin. Eric Merola got anything to say about them guys. Well, they all ran really well. But isn't curbing Eric Merola? They'll get that solid top five because this is a track he has struggled at in the past. You know, he qualifies usually very poorly. This track qualified, okay and like thirteenth or fourteen something like that. But still came alive when the race started in and got a solid finish there. That's very encouraging for him as he continues this amazing career resurgence that started last season as he moved to Stewart Haas racing and his top five Jit, again Kerry best friend of Bubba Wallace. Ryan Blaney both on the program later on pole-sitter was he he led ninety four laps. Nece thing didn't have enough you'll to contend with the the race winner there at the end though, but his first top five of nineteen. Yeah. And man he has had some fast cars this season. Just like his Team Penske teammates. He just hasn't had the luck this point. Right. But he did have a good finish. Even the Luxeuil wasn't on his side this week. But for a guy who had a very very strong short run car and very week long run car throughout this race. He somehow turn it around there in that final stage of the race. And actually had a decent long-run cars. I don't know what kind of changes they made to it on pit road. But the car was actually pretty good. A long run. Just like you said they had the fuel issues and and other stuff, but still finished solid third. So that's not bad Martin tricks junior. Scooted by Ryan there late in the race to grab a top two finish and heading victory lane. Here we go sitting down are you sitting? I am I'm sitting I'm going to just pummel you over the head with stats. It's as one hundred ninety nine th career win across all three series. Fifty second career Cup series win. Third win at Phoenix twelve times sweeping two races in a weekend. At least one win in the last fifteen seasons. Of course. I am talking about Kyle Busch. And he is talking about clean air. It was certainly tough to pass. Yes. It was. It wasn't easy. You you're really stuck in mired behind guys got close to Blaney and then I got real tight, and then he kinda got away, and then I ran back down, and it's just kind of like an accordion thing. You know? You you cool your stuff off you go back after him. And then you get too hot and too tight when you're behind him. And then you've got a cool back off again. But and then you gotta wait for traffic. You know once Blaney got the traffic. Had the same problems. I had because now he's behind other cars that are in front of him. And then that's when you kind of get to see who's cars are better than other cars and not just the guy who's out front is when you can maneuver and get through traffic and stuff like that. So I just started working the racetrack. And just started moving around and trying to find something and trying to get. Low and high and everywhere in between the keep get keep trying to find clean air or cleaner air in order to to get by Kyle Busch is also going to talk about the milestone the milestones. So we've been talking about for a long long time. And you know, certainly, I I don't know what else to say that that I've not already said, you know, it's just a goal that I set out long long time ago. I think it was actually remember who asked me might even have been Kerry Tharp. But you know, just having opportunities that I have we just go out there and try to win each and every time we're in a race car. That's what my job is. And you know, we just keep winning and the the stats keep piling up is Kurt chief Adam Stevens does what crew chiefs. Do they? Yeah. That I thought it was going to be even harder to pass than than what it was. It's never easy to pass shouldn't be to pass. But there are a lot of guys haven't pass cars and come up through the field. You know, we had to pass cars on a lot of occasions, and you know, the with the way the cautious fell. There was a lot of tyre strategy, and that that jumbled afield up, and you know, some of the better cars that took that opportunity to gain some track position where able to hold onto it. So it was it was pretty interesting, and there's going to be a lot of data for us to dig into. So we can plan how we're going to strategize the next race. When we come back. And Joe Joe, I think he is driven by things like that. By records. I really think I know how bad that he wanted to be able to win at ever race track. 'cause I could pick up from him and talk and how bad he wants things. I think he's he's driven by you know, trying to do something great. And so I think it'll be a big deal for him. And I know that the xfinity thing, he's okay. Okay. I'm telling him. Hurry up for you. So. Asian. Everybody gets mad at us. When we go to xfinity with you. And but it's I know he's driven also hundred over there, and that's a big deal for him too. So I think it's like, you know, probably somebody like that. I I wasn't the any kind of a robot athlete. So I I don't know sometimes great athletes like that thank little different. But I do think he's challenged by things and loves the idea of accomplishing some real goals. So he let a hundred and seventy seven laps in this thing. So it wasn't a fluke and he punches his ticket to the playoffs. Well, you say he punches his ticket from Laos, but we currently are four races and carry we have four different winters. So you know that medically these guys aren't secured in yet. Yeah. I mean, we talked about the same thing in the last few years, it it doesn't matter. You got to win last year. We didn't because Harvard the three wins very early in a couple of guys put together some streaks, but the year before was. Kind of weird there for awhile inning. But this year looks very much like we might be seeing quite a few different winters. I I wouldn't I wouldn't call anyone's cure yet. But Kabushiki definitely feel pretty good compared to all the guys who have winds currently I called man on that scenario. He's in he's in he's in you don't think we're gonna see more than sixteen winters in the regular season. No way. Really? Yeah. No way. We should put a wager on this would be fun. I just don't see it real quick because we got some important to talk about the chase. Elliott's not this. But later chase Elliott jumped the start of the the start of the race actually on pole-sitter. Ryan Blaney claimed Ryan spun his tires or whatever sent the night of the pits for a really slow as molasses pass through chase later spun racing. Denny hamlin. So well, I mean nothing happened. But. Because of Denny and there was a website that had used that as their headline and chase Elliott and the guys had a pretty good time with this. It was pretty funny. Yes. Eric jones. Blue attire hit the wall Ryan Newman and the Martin George junior busted on pit road for speeding. So that actually makes tricks is finish even more miraculously. It is definitely. And you know, a guy who's been very good going into this race through this part of the season. Brad Keselowski, but he blew a right front tire with twelve to go in the first age and that kind of set up the poor rest of the day for him. It was a really rough outing for Keselowski. Okay. We gotta keep this brief even though it's kind of a big deal. Where do you stand on the whole Kyle Busch versus the king thing? I see both sides of the argument. I understand that Richard Petty's wins. All did come in the Cup series, albeit they had sixty plus races year for a lot of those seasons. He was doing it. And the competition was where they had like twenty to thirty cars in a race. And out of that two of them would finish on the lead lap in a good day. Nowadays. You know, you got about twenty thirty cars on lead lap and most these races and Kyle Busch wouldn't quite a few of them. So I think from a competition standpoint how Bush's achievement is more miraculously. However, I do think that Richard Petty's all coming in the Cup series. Although again, there was no expenditures no truck series back in the sixties and seventies and eighties and and whatnot at least eighty two on the expenditures came in. But. You look at all that and Richard petty is still the all time. That's the thing. Nobody's gonna hit two hundred cups. His winds especially with the races. We have these days. But I'm still very impressed with the Cowboys stat. It's it's pretty incredible. I I don't see it that way. I'm sorry. But when you've got somebody at the level of Kyle Busch going down into the truck series and the explicity series and beating up on the little guy week after week after week. And now, it's at least diminished a little bit. Thanks to NASCAR rules. It's not much of a milestone. I mean, it's it's like a major league baseball player going down in the minors. And and doing his thing that when you get to the show in baseball. You are doing everything in your power to not go backwards and Kyle Busch is going backwards on purpose to go beat up on a little guys. It's ridiculous. I just disagree. Those stats in the truck and xfinity series. Simply do not count for this record. I don't know especially the truck series one I actually do count because he's driving for his own tame it's not like he's driving for a Cup series. Affiliated team. Can kind of see where your your thought is there on the extended series running for a Cup series team cups. Here's a quick and his driver. But man, there's still forty cars almost in each one of these races. And they're all competing for a win. They all our drivers capable of winning. You've got a lot of really talented young guys and they extend these series so far currently this year. I mean, we've very stacked field of young drivers that are all capable and Christopher bell included. He's had some roughly the last couple weeks. But Kyle Busch just continues to find ways to win those series races even with the deck stacked against him. I know that's weird to say, but there's a lot of talent that series currently. So the fact that he's still to to to start the season is quite impressive in my book. It's like the Super Bowl champs gone down and plan a college team week after week. It's it's a lot of these champs went down and played Alabama. They probably wouldn't win Alabama was pretty good. So, you know, it's it's it's a weird thing. But we don't see that native support. So it's it's hard to see what we'd see any of those other sports of those things were to happen because they. Don't happen. But there's no rule against it NASCAR. Which is kind of the thing. You know, there's no rule. He's going to continue to do it. Why don't we just add all his his dirt track? Winds and call it a day or any because those aren't NASCAR sanctioned races in our. No, I don't understand why we don't Richard Petty's convertible series win that he had back in the day in there as well. Because those are the two main series back in the day the regular in the convertible series, so really Richard petty in my book has two hundred and one national series wins because that would be considered an actual series back in the day. They were running Daytona and all sorts of places. So I don't know why that one doesn't get factored in as weird as that is. But yeah, it says we're at let's hear from Kyle Busch's biggest fan. Mark Murphy, my son and see where he stands on the whole two hundred wins thing. And here we go. All right now to get the thoughts of our resident Kyle Busch fan. His name is Marcus Murphy happens to be my son Kyle Busch getting a win last weekend out there in Phoenix. And so what are your initial thoughts on the eighteenth finally getting a victory lane? I say finally there's only a few races into the season eras. Cool. You could give us more thoughts on on him going to victory lane than just cool. Well, he passed air Jones on the first. Last couple of laps there because Eric Jones running out of fuel. That was Ryan Blaney whatever I'm just trying to get to the facts there. All right. So one hundred and ninety nine wins in his career across the three national series the truck series xfinity series and now Cup series. What do you think of him getting that achievement? He's going to do it this year sometime I think that's going to be a given that's easily. Definitely. So where does he stack up in terms of you know, the king Richard petty has two hundred wins? But all of those winds are in the Cup series. I know no, do you think it's about the same. Or is it different? It's kinda different because Kyle Busch one that's all three series while the king is in the Cup. But he also raised more than once a week. That's very true. I'm very impressed. You knew that. So which one's better. Now, probably the king still. All right. Toby is gonna love that answer, by the way, Marcus Murphy. Thanks so much for being on the final with us being you know, a Kyle Busch winning week. We had to have you on. Mike us at Facebook dot com slash the final lap like us. This is the final land weekly. The final Abbas today. Once again Ryan Blaney. Welcome to the program. Yeah. Me on again. All right. So top of the board in that. I practice. That's got to feel pretty good. Yeah. We no unloaded with decent speed. And got it a lot better as we kept running. So that's nice. Download on Friday fast. They wasn't him trim. And you know that. Taught kind of carry that over hopefully race trim cars pretty good too. But hopefully tonight for the poll we wanna pull before so. This nice done Lewis beat you just try to keep getting better for goal fine. Let all that kind of set the stage for the weekend. It's kinda hard. It gives you confidence right off the truck that your car has overall speed. I've had cars with great overall speed in qualifying trim. And then raced we struggle a lot. And then I've had was nice. I so, but then I've had some that have great speed all around. So it's just you don't really know. You know, how your race cars going to be race set up until tomorrow? But it is nice. You know to to get going on load and really be fast off the truck that that kind of boots everyone's confidence for the weekend. Penske's doing pretty well here in the beginning of the season. A couple of wins with your teammates as I put any added pressure on you, not really, you know. Yeah, we've been great to get going and the hard deal is unfortunate or finish. His definitely don't reflect on how we've been running. We've been running out front and all three races have really fast cars, and you know, things have been happening mainly on pit road. Just got on lucky stuff, and no stuff that some we control some of it. We can't and just have to try to figure out how to clean that up. But speeds. There. I mean, obviously with those guys win. It's obviously there, and I feel like we've had a car that could've competed for the win and both those races just put it together. But hopefully, we can get started to get try to get a win here this weekend or next weekend or wherever we can. But really no added pressure just opportunity knowing our cars are fast enough to do it and just trying to capture that you've got to win this series. You've been been here for a while you've been all the race tracks. How important is experience play into, you know, going into a certain weekend and having been there and done that before feel everything I mean, you know, experience, and if you have good experiences it builds confidence, and you know, if you have confidence during the weekends thing. And I try to have confidence going into any track. No matter how good about we've run there before he just if you don't have that you're kind of beating yourself, but. Yeah. Just experienced in anything, you know. That's why you see a lot of guys running Finnity your truck stuff it just reps and laps and seat time. It means a lot. So yes, it's nice. This is my. Fourth full year. And it's been a long time. Yeah. I should feel like it's gone by that fast. But it's been I been a lot of fun. And just yeah, he just hopes keep getting better better each year try to win more racist per year. It's been better than points. You want you always wanna keep progressing, and hopefully we keep doing it. How did the the whole Guinness Book of world records thing? Turn out. We didn't get it didn't seven short of the record. Yeah. I would rather been twenty short that seven. But now that was something. Lana wanted to do. And I'm not really the biggest selfie taker. I really only take him with fans, and they said I would be taking the fans like, okay, you got me there and. Well, yeah, we were close. Maybe maybe next year. We'll be able to try to get it done as I was gonna ask you try it again. Maybe. Yeah. See if Atlanta will want to do it again, and hopefully work out the kinks, and we can do is there any kind of workout. You can do get ready and get that camera thing going not really just. Gametime gametime decision. You one of the the more fan friendly drivers out there. How important is that to connect with the fans and make sure they keep coming back to the race track. I mean, that's a huge part of it in any sport. Not only NASCAR NASCAR. I feel like has the most fan friendly. Is the most fan friendly sport out there, not only motorsports? But in all sports, just as far as access and drivers, you know, meeting fans, and then having autograph signings and appearances at the track and the fans being able to walk on the track that we see come right up to the cards. It's just unlike anything I've ever seen. So you just appreciate them, you know, and be yourself, genuine and know that now. This is the reason why the sports around, you know, fans didn't exist. No sports would be around. So you need people to come and watch and support it. And but yeah. So then you look at the new track, you know, this Nias him place here. They put the kind of revamped everything, and it's really cool. Yeah. It took me a while. You know, so fall last year was the first race. We had at the new facility, and it was really cool to see the changes and upgrades to the garage. The fin area helps everybody the fans and the teams, you know, their new garage is of great for the team. So yeah, it's just a anything. We can do as far as drivers tracks owners. It's anything we do to try to please those guys. Do you think we're gonna see more renovations throughout the schedule? Thank so. Yeah. You know, some of the race tracks that have it kind of. Have really old garages. Like, you look at Pocono and Talladega and things like that. I know they have some plans I think down in down the road to try to get to revamp everything and make it better. You said not only for the teams, but for the fans as well. As far as giving them a pretty cool experience in the garage. And I think those try to learn from places like Phoenix like Richmond. So I I wouldn't surprise me to see that coming down here. Do they collaborate on the look and feel of of these tracks? I don't know. I'm not really sure how they work. You know, this kind of has Richmond vibe to it kind of how it like the flow of the garage area and things like that. And how that's all built in the fans owns. I'm sure they kind of talk between to see see what works best. I saw a video of you guys doing the Penske games that was that looked like a lot of fun. Yeah. That's the third year. We've done. Thank and. Yeah. It's it's fun. It's it's a hard time. Corralling? I think we had fourteen drivers this year. It's hard time crown fourteen grown men and try to get them putting ping pong balls on peanut butter. Yeah. That's that's stuff on. It's just it's probably worse than trying to get kindergarteners attentions. But now, it's fun. The fans seem to like it a lot and the Penske team does a really good job at coming up with new games and things like that. And I guess I'm doing hopefully keeps going what's your favorite game? There. The pop shot game. Just because I'm good at basketball. So pop shot is my my game. And we had a I can't tell you guys yet. We got some new stuff coming this year. And I I can't spill the beans about it. So you have to find out if watch. Yeah, there's more than one video. So yeah, they're they're starting to flow out there. So I'm talking with your your buddy Bubba later on today or anything you want me to ask him. Not really not really how how is doing how running. All right. You know? He let me say this house the other night, which is nice of them. Yeah. See how is doing? You guys vacation in the offseason the Hawaii and DisneyWorld I think yeah, we went to Hawaii. It was me him. That was my first time we went to Maui and of mayhem, and there's like eight or nine of us in a group that went and the the hammer came and a couple of folks. So that was fun. We had a blast. Yeah. Then we went to DisneyWorld down Daytona when we were off for a couple of days. So that was I was trying to make trip down there is cool place. But yeah, no, see I was doing what what trip he's got planned for us this year. So he does all the planning. Yeah. I'm not really like a trip planning kind of guy. Just kind of go with the flow. And I. Give my opinion on like location. But I gave my opinion before it doesn't really matter. So I just kinda go with with what they say about Disneyland because they're going to have the whole Star Wars thing. I've been to Disney before I think the new store was one opens. June July, maybe over there. So I'm gonna have to check it out. We'll see how about this this west coast wing, you stay out here, are you fly back and forth. I went home after Vegas, and I'm actually staying out here after Phoenix. So I try to stay out one one of the weeks. My family's coming out to California all week. So I think we're gonna go out there and little bit. Does the time change mess with you? Nah. Not really. On the sun comes up up when he goes down. So it doesn't really matter. What time it is three hours a header behind? Never really messed with me have been pretty good with that. That's a great way to look at it. I wish I would have thought of that. Don't need a clock. Yeah. Sun comes up your wake, it's Bisley. So all right. Ryan blaney. Thanks so much for the time as always and good luck this weekend. I think like us at Facebook dot com slash the final lap. Like us weekly. Getting you ready for this weekend's race? Welcome back to the final quickly. My name is Kerry Murphy, I'm a longtime NASCAR media member and syndicated radio host of all things. The final lap our coach with show is Toby Christie NASCAR editor from the final app dot com. And social media director from all things at the final Apso. Toby kinda interesting foul Bush's. Biggest fan. Wow. Yeah. I didn't expect that I thought for sure especially younger generation I thought that they would side with Catholic on this one, and especially with him big, huge Bush family is a man that's pretty interesting. He sides with the king. It's cool. Marcus Murphy, actually has this kind of knowledge of the past NASCAR. That's pretty cool. I like it. Oh, by the way. We just had Ryan Blaney on the program to we. There's that. Yeah. We can't. But you know, it's interesting to me that Marcus Murphy knows more about the past NASCAR than you do. Well, I mean, I I must know something because he gets it for me. So does your own research? Maybe I don't know. Maybe he's he's got the interwebs his a modern day. There's there's crazy stuff. It's amazing kids pick up on so much these days. It is NASCAR news of the week queuing the music as we speak. That was interesting that was it didn't come out. Right. But hey, you know, got the job done. Let's let's just roll with a man. That's what we're going to have the audio experts in the background scrambling music better. Get he's about to say, no. Right. Yeah. Definitely. So do you want me to start with this first story since this is your will house? I think this might be best for you. Well, the loser twenty names eligible for the class of twenty twenty NASCAR hall of fame where announced this week. And it includes a guy nicknamed smoke Kerry. Yep. That's Tony Stewart's smoke, and he could become one of the five inducted next year. What do you think he will? Yeah. Definitely. He's got three NASCAR Cup series championships to his credit as a driver, and is now a championship wing team owner of Haas racing as well other notables on the list carry though, also included joke jobs. I think that seems like shoe Demy as well hasn't it been on a list for a while though? Does it is? But they've been kind of slowly trickling me owners one by one each year. So I think this is Joe Gibbs his turn, Bobby Labonte. Also, a former Joe Gibbs driver with two thousand Cup series championship. There's well, Harry, Gant man, that's an awesome name. He was he was misfortunate by the fact that he didn't get to the Cup series of the younger age. But man, he got a lot done in the upper years of his career there for sure Neil Bonnett as well another. Well, no name and NASCAR lure Ricky Rudd. And many others only five make it in and voting day for that is on may twenty seconds. So that would be the day to keep track of if you're a fan of the past in NASCAR. I am. Yeah. One of my favorite interviews of all time was real with Ricky Rudd. We talked about his cat. You talked about his cat. Yep. He had he had a big cat. Really? Big cat. I'm glad I wasn't part of the show back. Then like a big big house cat. I forget the name of the type, but it it's like the biggest there is. So my favorite thing is you've got a potential future. Nascar hall of Famer that you've talked to on the show. You could ask them anything in the world. You know, he was he was a potential f one driver before he decided to go to NASCAR carry right? Did you know that? I did not know. Yeah. He actually debated going deaf one and ended up in NASCAR here. You are asking about his cat. Only I could get such information. And just so oblivious, you probably were that you're just so cat cats than funny thing is that's the only question. I remember I'll have to go back to the archives to find this to post a link to it on Facebook dot com slash. Everyone here you talked to the legendary Ricky Rudd about his cat. Right. Why not why not I think it's time for a good old fashioned hoedown? No driver point standings. Same thing. Let's run down ten to one. It's been a while. It has definitely has. Let's do this thing right here. Stenhouse junior at number ten. Yeah. He's topped. And you know what? This is interesting because we hear so much about the winters. This kind of tells the tale of the other the other drivers doing well. Yeah. And so sent house has definitely had some pretty good runs. And he's not made a lot of friends through the first four races this season. Who cares? It's nascar. I agree. I'm so excited. I hope he ruffles more feathers. I think it's a great thing. Fenders? I don't know. Who's got feathers? I agree. I think we need more guys that just have the attitude like Ricky Stenhouse, junior sure he might have the best car each week. But if he rough ship there's a chance he's gonna end up ahead of you. And I like seeing that rubbings racin, and I love third gear that was a days of thunder reference. I believe Kurt Busch at number nine. Then you've got Brad Kozlowski. He is playoff bound with a win. I am going to say right now. He's also playoff-bound Eric Merola. Number seven Kyle Larson. Six Martin tricks junior number five and Toby is going to round out the top four. Yeah. We've had any handling with a win. And if you're asking Kerry Murphy, he's probably locked into the playoffs at this point while Kevin Harvick joy llegado has a win. So again, mcmurphy Murphy logic. He is locked in totally off as well as Kyle Busch's the point leader currently also on this past weekend. So he is a fishery etched into stone as a playoff contender incapable book you watch list. Okay. Look at this list of top ten that you have here. Currently so sixteen drivers. But if you look at the list, I can see definitely Kevin Harvick win race this year marcher junior. Definitely Cal arson. I could definitely see winning race. Eric Merola for sure Kurt Busch. I could see him staking out one. He was pretty good at Vegas if you weeks ago every keystone has junior has got some nasty. I see him pull it off win a place. I Bristol where he's very very strong or definitely restrict plate race, which he will wreck the whole field for. So I see all ten of those guys possibly winning races. And they're guys behind them, including seven time champion, Jimmy Johnson. So I'm not saying we're not gonna see sixteen plus winners in the regular season. I really don't I think this could be the year. See you forget about where my logic is coming from. Where's your logic? Coming from Johnson's gonna win ten races. What's going on? So you're back on it. After just one top ten finish. He's going to win ten. And so that, you know, there's no way. Then right. Well, he's pretty far behind on his average. He needs to start maintaining to get to that level. Yeah. How sad is that? I don't think he's going to get to Jeff by the way, you know, these tonight he three he's eighty three right now. Right needs ten more. Right. It just said a few years ago. I really think you would have been right that he would have caught him. But I don't know I used to slow down this weekend. Of course auto club speedway right there in Fontana, California. And it's the twenty second year of racing at that track. Right. And of course, we're gonna hear the stupid -fornia dreaming. It'll be said over and over and over and over. We don't say that here ever. Well, see, this is the stereotype thing. I tell you about when you talk about the Texas stuff. Yeah. But that stuff's true. That's funny. Is that is? Photos of two sets of people riding horses recently near me. So you're you're proving my point. Yes, I only send those because they're funny, but it doesn't usually happen. I don't know what situation was going on for these things to have happened. But but they happened. They're getting stored away for evidence. So. Well, let's even funnier. The last one I say you two guys on a horse horse is riding into a horse shop where they like sell saddles or something. I don't know what they do there. Maybe they sell horses. I don't know trade this puppy in. Oh, have the blue one. Yeah. What? Blue ones. I don't know, sir. That one's got six hundred and fifty horsepower March I know about horses, sir. That's that's a Mustang. And it has a lot of horsepower. We can't be giving that's on even trade. Okay. Place holds sixty eight thousand give or take depending on where you look screaming foaming at the mouth NASCAR fans, and they are going to be and this is no joke. They're gonna be running three four five six eight ten wide. It's normal there. Right. L? Also first time in NASCAR history. Carry they will do a five wide salute to the fans during the pace laps. All right. What are the fans do to deserve that? What is it matter? Straightaway at forty five miles an hour. They're going five wide and salute of the fans they could wreck. Yeah. We've seen. What was it? Jimmy johnson. Mark Martin did that here at auto club speedway. One time before the green flag, wouldn't it? I don't recall that one. I believe it was like oh two or three somewhere in there. I don't like the bad stuff. Well, Jimmy out. Okay. It was Mark Martin had to go back to road and before the race even started. Well, Jimmy Mark failed to take the checkered flag in a race. So I have no he has no credibility. Yeah. That was fun actually watched that race. I don't know if you've ever actually seen it. It was fun. It was a series at Bristol. He wanted to win so badly, but didn't didn't get the the lead. Right. When the caution came out late in the race. And so he was second. But with three laps to go. The caution came out it was obvious. The race was going gonna end under under caution. Remark wasn't paying attention to how many laps left and when duct pit road with one to go. Oh thing in the race was over and he ended up like what fifteenth or something? Yep racing. The last few years, I think has been incredible at auto club. So be on look for that race number five of thirty six on a two mile oval similar to Michigan but less banking at fourteen degrees front stretch thirty one hundred feedback stretch twenty five hundred feet Cup race two hundred laps four hundred miles stages. One and two are sixty laps and the final stage weighing in at eighty laps. Catch all the action Sunday three thirty PM eastern on FOX last year's winner from the pole Martin tricks junior year before that was Kyle Larson and Jimmy Johnson in two thousand sixteen and this I'll let you have this last day. This is going to be interesting. I wonder if it's a sign of things to come before we do the funny thing is that we decide to go all the way back to twenty sixteen because that's how we can find Jimmy Johnson stat. I like that. Well, you weren't supposed to notice that. That's why I kind of just it was we never go anywhere pass last year. We glazed over at real fast just to make sure got in there. I'm going to catch it. So. Yeah. This is the interesting thing that maybe we have something to look forward to hear like you said three wide Tanna finish with the new aero package in the NASCAR peak. I racing series this past week. That was awesome. What was it? Like one tenth of a second from first fourth. Oh, cool. So cool. I hope we see something like that. You never know. That would be so cool drivers doing awesome at auto club, California driven style. Youngun addition and Jimmy. I'm gonna say you're going to begin this one. I just have a feeling. Yeah. We begin with our young gun and guest to the program. Ryan Blaney drives the twelve for Penske racing. Two top tens and average finish of seventeen point three eleventh. Best at auto club out of this one of his good friends. Chase Elliott also young gun two top tens just like Blaney average finish though. Ten point six seven. That's fourth-best. Eric Jones has a top ten and his average finish. Miraculously enough is nine point five. Second best seems the lamest doing will stuff ever seen as do. There's any wins here. What's going on? Well, it's the young gun edition end. Jimmy, okay. How about power and he's very good at these two mile ovals in. He does have a win here. Three top five three top tens in the poll. Average finish though fourteenth seems weird. What happened? Oh. That is weird eighth best on that one. So okay. Here's the an Jimmy part of the young guns and Jimmy Jimmy Johnson driver, the number forty eight. Hendrick motorsports Chevrolet Camaro z l one with ally purple all over the place. He's got six wins including his very first Cup series win thirteen top five seventeen top tens of average finish of seven series best. I was on site for win number one fan boy ever since. That's what started it all basically ASI where you cheering in the press box. No, I was not even a media member. Then oh, I was just a simple fan. Look at you. Look far you've come a young with a glimmer in his eye. My goodness. All right. Other half of the duo of Blaney and Bubba is up next. His name is Bubba. Wallace on Tf, all w like us at Facebook dot com slash final lap. Weekly is. On the phone with us. Once again is a Wallis. They all right. So I talked to your your buddy earlier Ryan, he said, you're in charge of all the off-season vacation plans throughout the season. He wants to know where he's going next. Usually last year. We went to a why and I think it was a tossup between there. And he wants to go to Bali which long. It's a lot of money. And it's a very long flight. So we went with a Y, but we discounted decide destination upon the group, and then the planning when we're at that station goes to the girls, so my girlfriend MandA, and we had dinner ex-wife Kinsey, their and our good friend. Trae pool is your alley. They all kind of came up with the stuff to do as to where. I'm like, I have one thing in mind to do the whole town. There is relaxed. So I'm down to do whatever. I think he said he likes the unknown aspect of it of you had never knowing where he's going to go. Yeah. Yeah. It's fun. Because like now talking to I'd mentioned something to Amanda. And also Henrik gesture playing golf I was like, it'd be fun. As vacation is take our buses, and you know, follow Mark Martin, he say some bad ass RV's resorts. So it's like doing that getting two or three of us together in little compound will be a good time spent some time recently with Kevin Hart that. Must have been fun ice bath. Yeah. Yeah. It was. It was fun as my first ice bath separately there. Yes. Yes. For sure. You gotta watch video. Yeah. For sure. What we found out that you don't like Talladega nights though. Yeah. It's you know, I mean, I I laughed out a little bit. And there's a lot of one liners that April from there that I I find myself saying, but it was just kind of like this is what nascar's about is days of thunder any better with running in third gear. And then dropping the hammer that's like every race in movie fast and furious. Everybody lies running in third gear the whole time. Tell me I don't I don't know. So that's just got to create some action. All right. So second year with the forty three car is going to be helpful to you. Go back to these tracks more often now that you're going to at least know the lay the land. Yeah, we unload in Q trim now. So we're not bond usually we unloaded in race trim to get comfortable with the track in the car and then switch over and and kind of create a madness. But yeah, I think, you know, being here if Phoenix this is this was a really good track force, probably our best one both times we showed up we had a ton of speed. And and some looking forward to. Especially just getting getting a role into the season would be a lot of fun important is it to unload good. I mean, you never wanna be behind able you always want to be in front of it. So a lot of times. I should we find ourselves behind it and fighting the clone away to get in front of it. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it didn't. So we'll just have to keep on digging in terms of the west coast swing. What do you fly back and forth? You stay out here. The first time in six years, I've gone back home. So I enjoyed it. I enjoyed down here. Doing a lot of cool things we went glancing last year say that was a lot of fun. But it's it's nice going back home and being around family and saying in EUROMED does the time chains mess with you know, I li- sometimes it doesn't it doesn't I could show up to the west coast. And then stay out stay up until midnight, one o'clock, which is usually go to bed home. And then when I get back home, I found myself on fall asleep early which is weird because you think you'd still be on that. But yeah, it's all good. Thanks for the time. Thank you. All right there. You have Bubba Wallace earlier on the program, his best friend. Ryan Blaney and Marcus Murphy also making a guest appearance on the program stack show man, it was pretty strong. I think it was pretty strong the one part of the show where we came up a little limp though, in my opinion was the driver's doing well at this race track list. Well, you know, I tried something because we always do the same drivers with all the winds. I figured I'd do something different. And yet you still don't like it. Well, because you only highlighted Jimmy Johnson, basically. Guys who have like eight top ten and then Jerry Johnson six wins, which yes, he leads the series there. But how about Kyle Busch has three wins there? Brags Eski Martin church junior Kurt Busch. Kevin Harvick all have wins here, by the way, I was on site for Kabul, very first win too. And nothing came of that. Although your son now is a huge fan. So maybe it came vicariously that way may be I doubt it though. I doubt it. All right. We got anything else for this program. I think we're done. No. Although it was weird. I heard the stat you said earlier the Kabua's wanna raise in each of the last fifteen seasons old now that is wild. Oh, it is. Right. I don't have a look at it. But that's just seems insane. It does not. I can't believe he's been there for fifteen years now. All right. Well, we'll just go with it. Then. I could just check real quick as you show. We talked for half hour after the show. So checkered flag flying. This has been the final weekly catch us next week right here when we will recap the racing from auto club speedway and preview martinsville and all the stories in between Toby you and I will chat next week. We will and yes fifteen straight seasons of wins for Kyle Busch. Wrap. Another final lap weekly is in the books, the final AP weekly is hosted by Kerry Murphy, along with Toby Christie, proudly syndicated by United stations radio networks in New York City city, executive producer, Kerry, Murphy Kerry, Murphy sound design by Russell Nash at audio director dot audio. I'm Tom mode, some Tombo dot com. Thanks for listening time now for our giant massive massive feud. I said massive ready gigantic patriotic people list, gigantic massive. Massive go ARA carry here is the list. 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When I talked to Ricky Rudd, the legend, hopefully, future hall of Famer and went through the interview turns out, I didn't talk to him about his cat. I don't know where I remember that from maybe it was before cracking the Mike or after the interview, but we didn't actually talk about his cat. However, it was a pretty good chat. So you know, what we're going to give you some bonus coverage here the full Ricky Rudd interview, we're we're doing a flashback interview for you right there with Ricky Rudd, August two thousand seven from Tanna California here. He is the legend Ricky Rudd Ricky radical speedway and first of all we got to go through some of these stats from your amazing career Twenty-three wins twenty nine one hundred ninety five top fives three hundred seventy four top tens. That's one amazing career. When you first started the ever think it would come this far? A really did not really career softened. The other end of spectrum in the young guys eighteen years old and side. I want to go Cup racing and never thought about John accumulate so many racism about I was worried about trying to get one or two races for season trying to get established in all of my early career was just that China get on the train. I came into cars. I was eighteen years old and never run cars before run motorcycles run motocross go-carts, but never been in car. Spirit slow skipping. A lot of the steps that most guys went right to Cup wouldn't trade it for anything. But it's very difficult in the beginning. One of my favorite stances. You've run something like two hundred and fifty thousand laps. Do you ever feel that you might have to turn right? A few times to kinda even an out. I don't know when I hear that many laps. I've not I'm wondering explains a lot and busy to fifty six. Dizzy, something blame it on. Right. The reason we're here nine hundred start for the Sunday. They'll put you a second only Richard petty special as that for you. But it's all good company. Richard petty has always been, you know, he's he's alleging can you say about the guys my heroes stuff when I was growing up at the being mentioned in Saint company. It's pretty amazing. I think the guy that we passed this year's they Marcus ago that a lot of spec for you did it on waves talented driver and did it most career working on his own equipment and driving it too. So. Some guys and company with now this is normally cheesy question, I hate asking it. But what stands out as one of your greatest moments in your career? Yes. Kind of hard to say, I've got some things that are special to me. And I think probably winning Brickyard and ninety seven just first of all that was always amazing to me as a kid through facility taken a to around there and two of us and come back later on to race there until to win Brickyard four hundred and that's probably about far the biggest win had. But I think of wins that are important to be like Richmond Virginia way back nineteen Eighty-four. And the reason it was specialist because at worked for many years to get established with big team and had a near career ending wreck. And in Daytona the preseason week in the bud shootout at that time was the Bush class to tell foot inter in did a lot of damage in turn and was able to come back seven days ten days later, and sorta agony defeating the thrill of victory all about seven eight period and came back and. Richmond. Which especially because I was sitting here contemplating might not have a chance to drive again. This this thing could because a lot of problems instead of to come back and win their to me special. But if you look at it in the stat sheet at that big of a win that it does to make you know careers four especially you've been maybe not everybody else. Now new fans coming into this for obviously tons and tons every year, they may have seen the famous photo of you with your eyes tape to open what's behind that. But that's what into a little bit earlier coming from Daytona shootout, which flash got around turn around backwards. And that was back when the cars before they had roof laps before the restrictor plates, and we did a big tumble down the front straightaway. Coming turn for it. Over to them on our up quite a bit. And. The tape. As was when I got to the racetrack spent the night in hospital came back the next day and made a Latin a backup car and getting sick. And see and my face was swollen up at the corners. The show. Looked around or some duct tape on a toolbox usually runs then. Couple of guys looked motor over then you would go back and go run some more laughs. But I knew I could run him. We'll figure out what was going on. So it was worth a try. So the duct tape mush. We just Jake swollen skin up to my forehead. And I can see where I was going when it got to the corner. So I didn't think wouldn't do it. Other than it was it was the function of being able to see didn't really do it to to be at tuck. I was just that was it worked. I didn't have any band aids. I use. Yeah. Can duct tape was there and it worked and allow me to run that weekend. Sunday, you strap into the car you crank your motor. It's nine hundred start. What do you think is gonna be racing through your mind? Or is this just another day at the office? Wait, I'll be honest. I'll probably think about that when the races over. But no different than ran. My first race. You know, getting buckle up switches it's down to business you're inlands going, and you don't really have time to focus on anything about that race in. I'm sure that that time reflecting back on the way back to airport or whatever I'll be thinking about it. Then it's a big number had no idea never sat out on a mission. I'm run down on a racist. Frankly, I didn't think I would be in a sport that s recently that you are retiring after the end of the season. I'm sure you didn't take that decision lightly. What what made you make that decision? Really? What helped me make it six? I didn't say retire. Because I didn't know what the future was gonna. Hopefully raced all my life and says about nine years old just met every weekend and something I didn't really know if I could step aside. So I took the year off what I answer this questions and. Able to handle it in the beginning. And then I got about three quarters of the way through last race season thanking on this, and it's pretty bad. So then I had a chance to come back with with the eights this year Snickers on board and we've had a few good things happen. But it's sort of been a struggle year force. A team was struggling last year. We've got the team has definitely made improvements in the team is going to continue to get better without me. But think about running this year I've had to chance to sit beside ways. And it's pretty clear decision for me. It's not a not a I'm not sure if I'm doing right? I know it's the right thing for million by taking your help me help me to realize that now compared to the grinding schedule of the Cup series. You're going to have an incredible amount of free time next year getting clans for that. I really don't know. No, I'm pretty fortunate. I came up on a time that that financially we were able to put a little money aside. So I don't have to take a media job. I'm float around a little bit. And and just trying to figure out really what I wanna do. But right now, it's nice to have some control over your time. I'm sure I'll get more than need to focus and do something. But right now at this moment, I don't have any plans. I feel like I didn't have any plants racing. I knew I wanted to raise in house going to get there and all sort of worked out, so that's kind of approach retirement deal. Not quite sure what I'm gonna do, you know, all fun and something that like the right now, it's just enjoy some time with the family at the rushing to make an hasty decision. Now back when you start it in the seventies compare that here too. Now, did you have any ideas for it would be where it's at right now. It's just incredible. It really is. It's amazing. How big it's gotten. I would say that when I came into sport just. The the level of competition. It was probably compares more to like the Arkansas Aries today is more like the Cup series was when I've started years ago other than the architecture is. I know Maine's I inferior series tractor trailer rig. We didn't we had no tractor trailers wasn't one of these saying he was sort of a one ton truck with a box on it in a trailer. Now everybody and every division your Saturday night shacks all run tractor trailer. So solid sport. You know, what I thought it really wasn't in its infancy at that point because it racing when I started getting around twenty years or so, but I got a chance to see a lot of changes. But it really is comparing apples and oranges. It's use really hard to Jolla comparison unless you had about an hour radio show. We could talk about the right now, it's hard because there's so many differences force the other things that used to talk about especially next week or going to your own state, Virginia and Richmond. Yeah. That's that's an neat. Track of always enjoyed Salyers. Really nice facility. They saw roll the dice and built the free quarter mile track. And everyone else was saying that's not gonna work and it turned out to be a real exciting racetrack. It's give to the competitors to race on because you can run SABA side. You don't end up with the aero issues. Like we end up. Some of the bigger tracks from a competitive standpoint, I know all the guys racing there. The. Dot com. 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Part 1: Nick Zito, John Lies

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Part 1: Nick Zito, John Lies

"Sirius Xm ports presents. With Steve Horse racing handicapping interviews. This is stupid a very good Wednesday. I'M GONNA say baseball fans how. `Bout that baseball and racing fats. We may have. We may have a a baseball special you today. You're saying what do you mean you'll it'll it'll come together it'll come together and some of it Sad tinged with sadness Because Nick Zito is going to join us after the first break and nick will talk about his really is is his whole professional career and the relationship with Hank Steinbrenner. And of course nick One of the trainers that had horses For the Steinbrenner family and kinsmen and so Nick is going to join us. And you know. Obviously there's the there's the baseball tight and then later actually an hour to I don't know how many of you are enjoying these greatest games of all time segments that are turning up on a lot of sports networks but last night game one of the nineteen eighty eight world series and Kirk. Gibson's home run. And whether you whether you heard and remember the Vin. Scully call I suppose if you're if you're La Basin than dodger faithful locally or whether you remember from the national side and Jack Buck. I don't believe what I just saw either way. Either way it it is one of the most memorable moments in baseball and then really in in sports history certainly from the last you know forty fifty years. And there's a very distinct Tien from your saying. What could this possibly LASORDA? Turns up that you know it at the racetrack. Now and then but no. It's not it's Mitch. Pool who you may have read about yesterday in USA. Today Mitch at the time was the clubhouse attendant the Batboy essentially at the time and is now decades later the longest the longest tenured employees of the Los Angeles dodgers. And he's an owner. He's in on fast. Pharaoh with Jeff Bondi and Mitch was instrumental. Because Kirk Gibson wasn't gonNA play. I'll let him tell the whole story if you'd some of you probably saw the piece in USA Today and then watch the game last night. I Know Mitch. Watch the game last night. So we'll talk to Mitch Pool and potentially I'm waiting for the confirmation Victor Martinez Victor Martinez King Guillermo. Who had a very nice work this morning as he prepares for the Arkansas Derby and we didn't get a chance to talk to victor in the aftermath of Tampa of the Tampa Bay Derby. But this is you know another interesting horse. That bubble to the surface and given the circumstances you know has been a little at a sight outta mind so maybe a baseball team the at the races. Hank Steinbrenner Mitch Pool Fifty Martinez all right. So in addition Seth Merrill later. We'll probably look at Tampa with seth. And I think Steve Haskins today because Steve's tied up tomorrow with with Joan and her she's got a Steve explained when I was having my issues. Steve explained the Joan has had her share so she's got an appointment tomorrow that Steve is taking her to now. I said why why not today. So Steve Ask probably today as well and we'll get his impressions of the. The Oakland stake winner and start to You know whatever whatever topic as as we discovered yesterday with the I mean not that that's new but I think andy well Andy Johnny really all the regulars the never know where sometimes we're the conversation leads but Steve asking today John Lewis is going to join us and call call it mea culpa Wednesday. I don't know last last Tuesday. Of course here was the fauner force out on their five and the D Q sent people you know on tilt and it has actually actually interesting as Marcus Hershey yesterday and makes the market's for the visit yesterday which included a very good couple of very nice pushes although that one horse that one I got back down to nothing at will rogers that eight to one shot Bill Maurice and had the best last race buyer there were there were reasons the Vet Sukhoi Su Eichel Berry but didn't expect didn't expect him to go off to one as the favorite but still Marcus Marcus zeroed in on him anyway. Yes last week with the founder Park. Pick five and Chris CA- to lack nice enough to visit with us. We're we got a similar situation but a little different and with a a happy resolution. Frankly as to what happened yesterday. With will rogers and when we were talking with. Marcus and I had heard from Eric on twitter that there had been discussion and I guess. Tv G had said something about it on Sunday or Monday. That will rogers was going to move their jet. They're pick five to a jackpot and it was supposed to start as a jackpot a cruel yesterday and I asked. I reached out to John. Lewis right away and then he got back to me a little bit later in the morning confirming that that yes. I mean that the tote company was working on the technical aspect of changing the programming. But that yes they were going to start yesterday. Well then then and I. I wanted to make sure to get that information out to people who were curious before the sequence started which was the second race so I sent out a tweet confirming you know the speculation. That will rogers was going to do this and and as we talk yesterday when it came up particularly with Andy You know we both. We were both disdainful of Jack Jackpot. Bet For all the reasons that you would be down on. The concept in holds money out of circulation builds itself on the back of smaller bettors is advertised as a bit of a come on no twenty cents or fifty cents and you can win. Yeah yeah sure And you know. And then the worst part is that when we get to distribution days invariably the sequences impossible for anybody with small money. That that to me is a lot of times. The you know the most irksome aspect anyway. Mid-afternoon John Lees came back and said that a couple of things I mean. There was a Utah outcry when I put out that confirmation of the Jackpot concept that they were moving to people. Were just astounded. They were aghast at it. Because it's been an instant hit they'd only run for five cards and and the thing is pulling two hundred thousand in handle a day so everybody was like. Why would you do this? Well fortunately and to their great credit and John John's going to join us they saw and they don't have they really do not have a you know they got the Cherokee Casino moniker. But they don't have a real social media presence at will rogers but they saw at John showed management the backlash and the outrage on twitter. And it just so happens that united tote could not get the programming done in time for the second race yesterday and so the bets were not processed as Jackpot so the Jackpot did not start and then as they discussed it over the afternoon. Management said okay if the public if you know if the public doesn't want it if the horse players are turned off we won't do it so well done and then people So then when John tweeted later that it would remain a conventional pick five and then I you know I echoed it and tried to get it out to the people that had seen the news from earlier in the afternoon and people were really impressed and rightly so that that will rogers responded the way they did and saw that this was a mistake and then they just a stick with the conventional daily pick five and yesterday actually kind of chalked out and they give you an idea. It drew one hundred seventy seven thousand five hundred on Monday yesterday. Hundred Ninety four thousand and it It ended up paying two hundred and eighty dollars. And it had a sequence really of you know of mostly favorites. Although the the three to five favorite woods of Congress in the anchor leg sex failed to win but the second choice came in and So the sequence the sequence went like this honest and lucky. Who was the third choice? Eight dollars winter And then second choice at just under two one sedaris and second choice. Concrete Finisher Verizon. Oh gelding trainer Ron David and the fourth leg. It's yes the near second choice just over five to a yes. It's true Coul- for math. Yates before Burr back from our bureau area again Mark Beers couple of days in a row. So though favorites. Actually I didn't do the. I didn't add up the parliament but to eighty ninety and we'll talk to John Lewis and we're also gonNA talk to Scott Young trainer. Scott Young won the NIGHTCAP with nurse List wire-to-wire for Dan Caldwell Oklahoma breath. Dr Chit Philly. I love the actually was bred by Toby Keith. How about that three year? Old Filly five to two nurse lowest was watching them and then I was watching at fodder and the steak tell you the the stewards stewart getting a workout. If Honor Eaton's memory won the runs a steak at nine to one and third graph users if you remember of Third Graph Player Services. Monday Tuesdays Are Free. You get freesheets. Well Eaton's memory was very much live on the on the sheets pair of eights. This is an Eaton's gift Texas bread that hidden and got to the front quickly enough other are Mondo Martinez and get a once again. Off The turn your little bit a little bit of jostling and had to survive a Objection but it was quickly dismissed. Philly keeps us a four year. Old is keeps keeps improving and She she definitely took another step forward yesterday. And the Father Speaking of the pick five's the fodder pick five is back growing like a weed again. It's up already in a week. It's up to one hundred ninety thousand already and I guess they're going to give it away next week or the week after they're going to have another distribution day so a lot of people said Oh. I'm never playing again. And then they then. They immediately played against right. Yeah we're all that way by the way. Happy Valley running today right now. You can get some some morning action in we're gonNA take a break. We got to fund morning three hours or stock and baseball talk hot stove. Nick Zito to Patriot. The Hank signed better starts us off back after this apperances with Steve on Sirius. Xm Radio Relation two year olds in California and Cucchi pleaseconsider leadership leading all natural pace. He's the greater of the. I H trainers trust leader shield. Shouldn't you turn the team to learn more contact? Joseph Allante five zero zero the business of horses in the world's only acquitted equine business program the University of Louisville Equine Business Program. 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Xm Radio Park about a suicide hot water spout. But I don't care at all. Hang hanging tree. Bama knees threw shade. Nobody knows what it's all about mud man. Let it out. We're back at the races twenty minutes into Wednesday and most times. It's a delight to have Nick Zito. Join US on any variety of topics and runners. In this case it's the bay tribute to Hank Steinbrenner and late yesterday morning in the show The new started to come out. And of course kinsman stable and The you know. Several decades of racing success Horses with Jon Ward and with Bill Mott and with neck and of course Bellamy Road and dreams supreme and others neck First of all good morning and thanks for joining us hope You and Kim and the staff is safe and and doing okay likewise thank you really appreciate everything. Yes everybody's okay. Thank God Difficult. Times but Yeah I got I hope you're doing the same and Tina Body in And in doing a great job as usual. Yeah what happened yesterday? I got a message from Jessica Steinbrenner High Nick. I just want to get out and hang passed away last night and I know you guys have been closer many years so it's when I reached out to yesterday message because he was such an interesting guy. He was unbelievable. I don't know You only had a few people. I think in racing that could actually get to him and you know had conversations with them. You've kind of got to stay by himself. Word is whatever they call it clues the word is but you certainly stayed by himself and he liked the Ventura. Boise like Tommy and Jimmy. I know that and Not Not many people. He talked to. But what? Fascinated me about hank over the years we kept his friendship and I was really sad to hear the scratching. Because I didn't even keep up with them the last year and a half whatever the year I guess it was and spoke to him about a year or something and I always run into the Steinbrenner family. They say you talk to Hank lately. I said you're not too sales oriented Jessen Kevin runs. You know they help sell James in the Yankees and the same family to me. It was always close but hank and I had this incredible relationship with reading and talking about breeding. He was basically one of the guys that I would say was right up there. The mind inbreeding was beyond belief and he was responsible over. The years has so many good horses that kingsman has we talk about the inbreeding and components and chromosomal how works and he was in like a genius type of guy when it came to breeding. Nobody I don't think anybody knew that I wanted to share that with your audience. Because obviously you know you think Steinbrenner's do you think about the Yankees and you know the Great Dynasty. They had but he was into horses and he was just great and is fantastic. It's funny story about when I told you hard to get to. I think Dan Pride at the time was working for Darley and he goes to the MIC. I need hanks I I don't how do you know we're friendly he goes? I need hanks but his number and I remind number Daniel kids trainers and felt that a place and later apologized but that was because there were Darlie I think families working for Darley and I think they were trying to buy and coolmore got involved as they wound up with adjusted worrier. But Hank was pretty sure. Hank was did the meeting on that one and He was just a very interesting very interesting. I'll tell you another quick. Who Thousand Nine Pool with men ride service to the two thousand nine World Series game and he? I saw him walking on the field. You know I guess you know Steinbrenner family Jess and Jennifer and Hank and HAL. Obviously they will go and get the trophy and I had called them because it looks to me that he was so proud of that night. I call them right after the late night and I had driven from upstate with the guys where you live in Saratoga and and It was a great night that night. The two thousand nine world series but the little special guy really guy was more people would have known him but stay by himself it. It seemed that the you know the consensus out. There was obviously given cigarettes sixty three years old. And you know the fact that actually George lived to a fairly ripe old age himself and so this I think seem to really shake people up and and and you know not a you know. It's not corona related But He he is among the family as the spite being involved in all the different areas He he was the least visible. You know the one that You know I'm glad you mentioned. I'm glad you mentioned Tom. Jimmy Ventura because I mentioned yesterday. I mentioned that Hank is on the board of OB S and You know his his the the farm. The kinsman the forces in Ocala and really tied and and like like George I mean he seemed to really enjoy the horse side of it and it seemed like a F- a real outlet Both for his father and for him. Yeah I you know. It's funny because when I talked to you know what he'd say to me say and did you talk to George lately. He never call him. My Father Daddy. Talk Georgia Kinda funny to me was interesting Georgia. Leaving would or would it joyce but he was. He's really really special guy when he came to. Reading Talladega. Sit Fernando Newham I would've loved to see those guys get to go. Sits going to be on later. We we did a business discussion yesterday. They early SIDS GONNA be on For for a pedigree portion we wanted to talk about the the winner from Saturday at Oaklawn mister big news. Who's got a a pedigree to run all day So I'll ask our absolutely acid if he had any. He's had any kinsman Association nick for for you. I mean obviously bill. Motte had lion share of kinsman horses and Jon Ward. You know got selective ones and you got a selective amount. It's funny Javier. Castellano was with US two weeks ago we wanted to check in on Havi air. Who you know was was basically in Florida and quarantine the staying with his mom through you know through the the Cova symptoms and an incident and we brought up. Bellamy road with him and it was. It was kind of fun but bring us back. How did How did it happen that that you ended up with Bellamy trained some horses before remember diligence? I'll tell you a funny story. Real quick maybe audience but like this one so I go into your famous place in Hot Springs Arkansas. Is You know you could go to things. Become fully from New York especially I think I'm one of the New Yorkers probably but anyway either go to the Lucas or you watch gunsmoke right one or the other but anyway dilute is your favorite place. There and crazy man comes up. You Know Anthony Tony here. He tells me it's incredible story about how the stock market and how can get a winner this out but however however he bets on a first time starter. If you believe it's you can count on on on my hand. How many times winners I had in my career you know or pass or you know bird stone or whoever with one believe it or not was Iran in one thousand nine hundred ninety six four kingsman or George? Tank company Hank Bread. The voice you know has a lot to do with the meeting. Shirley diligence remember diligence. I do remember eligible so he won first time out by by poll and he was a nice sauce and I started getting horses as the years went on so that was in the nineties. Late nineties landworks Jones. For a long time I had a Steve Honestly. I don't want to say probably I probably could tear up with. I had a great relationship George but any case I actually took shelter Yankee game. He never wanted to Yankee Stadium. We went to the Yankee game but I was very close with yours. Of course would hang but but long story short started with doing. Jason worked away up and then then I got Believe it or not. As a two year old Michael Dickinson had trained Bellini Road and then I had gotten right at the two year old year and he just he just blossomed and I you know a lot of people say I don't know why Hobby we had one on ice race at Gulfstream and then he one of my morial record time he won by seventeen. I didn't think he had to win that much. But any case he was a wonderful voice and Things our relationship continued for a while then Because Philmont had she was Susan. Katie minute really. Good People Steve Steinbrenner family all everyone of them just really decent people. Good people and they're really good people and of course it started with Georgia Hanson Ex Lover's I think actually he loved horses warning the Yankees. I think it's but he was involved in the Yankees. Do you told me some interesting things about Rodriguez how he wanted him because he figured that you know he's still have plenty of an attack it actually to get some good years He was evolving. How runs the day to day operation as you know and of course Cashman and company joined very interesting guy really wasn't makes me really sad that he's gone and makes me sad that I didn't keep up the last year with them but he's funny he was. You could asked Tommy and Jimmy. I'll tell you to get you. I people Tapis. The family would say talk to hack. He's just a he was He's really sad. Honestly I wish you I wish you would be able to talk to him because you know you really love you and he would love to talk to you about race. I and I. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa bring something back because you made me look up diligence and that and that maiden win first of all paid twenty one sixty but nick. Do you remember who was in that race? Go fever second wasn't he? Gold fever was second as the three two favorite at of course goes onto a terrific career and goes on to be a prominent New York stallion. How `bout first of all Shane Sellers? We got to mention Shane. Sellers was aboard deligence. Yep Mike Smith Road gold fever fourth fourth was fortitude fortitude and who went on to be a stakes winner and another first time starter in the race was pete vessels out. I'd who went. Multiple stake winner. This was a huge maiden race. Yup kingsman James inbred a Lotta great horses. I we have one to trust. You know we had had some you know I mean I had some really nice courses from but only role was I think. One thing that Hobby was you know. Hobby is now caswell but think about belly wrote two thousand five. I think Johnny was a little bit more. Oh what's the proper word? You would know Steve. You're great with the English dictionary you know either. How do you say more sap to to writing you know but he had a little bit over hobby and I think hobby you know if he had taken johnny out a little bit? I can't just leave them. Only we never got away from him and that would have been a great tribute to develop the road because he ran in the Derby next. Travis I believe that's a long time between drinks if you know what I mean. Go a mile and a quarter and to win. That would have been stressful. But it was a wonderful wasn't actually you know what he's a decent side of town. He's had a lot of good horses. He's very useful. And there's no doubt and you know and I I I said to harvey as we were talking. We did a little bit of a career. You know. Kind of career retrospect and wild while go sapper may be the horse that you know the biggest Horse that he's associated with I said to him in to my memory it was it was Bellamy road and that performance and then when when they hit the wire and Havi you know like pointed with you know he he had his finger pointed a gun up the stretch and he you know because he was really not well known at that point. He showed it a little bit and to me. It's the moment when Hobby Castellano kind of got into the Horse player consciousness. Yeah well yeah. Absolutely Wilson Yeah and he wrote another horse at that time called the Euro Euro silver. That won the breeders fraternity. Sure and he was. Yeah that was putting them actually was that was that was yep. That's right that's exactly. It was bought them out. And then we had You know your your ladies This is wherever you and you in the picture with in the goals Yankee just messy. That was not a great ride one time but he was the Gazelle Gazelle. You always mentioned that great that we have a good friendship but I'm grateful that he's very sick because you know in this game it's it's opportunity. There's so many great train is a great jockeys or you know great people in the game but if they don't get an opportunity you could forget it. It's just like anything else you know. You just need an opportunity but wrong so got it at the time. And he took 'em he's a great news a hall of Fame Jockey and one of the best. There is still great. Great dock us all question well and he should become back Pretty Soon I think and I I'm glad he came up to as part of this Zito joining us to pay tribute to Hank Steinbrenner. Who died yesterday at sixty three or or Monday night and neck? A quick Quick hit on on. What's going on down there at oaklawn? Really the only game in town right now. Obviously we got Florida to. We'VE GOT TAMPA GULFSTREAM. But in terms of you know the still the prime portion of the meat oaklawn doing great and on Saturday. Going back to Saturday boy. I I'm sure that I'm sure that Joel Rosario would like that ride back again on hunt the Front. Kinda just left him with too much to do. I think what happens to you. That's his style unfortunately Ronald Quick. You know he's he's actually talking about getting giving star. Most people know I helped him get started started. Let me help you know. I didn't train the horses from. I certainly helped him. And you got to be great friends. And wherever I knew that I was trying to help them a little bit and you know he's he's a great trainer. But I was telling Ron and tell you something about people that that know about horseracing and that whatever they do they'll tell you if you had post twelve and I had post one. It's a whole different story so I think what happens is it's too much to do but you got post twelve. You GotTa make up your mind. So did the right thing. He saves round. He made you know nobody really. You don't press rotten for no no. That's a big thing but but I'll tell you I was telling toby and Linda his manager and I was telling them both of them. It's always good to don't change the style of that horse because it's always good to have like that. That's finishing the right way at the wire if you know what? I mean these. You're so it's always a good idea because sooner or later you know who get into a deal where maybe someday and hopefully. It's a steak someday a big a big race. It's tons of speed. And what were they? Just mix it up and here. He comes so that would be wonderful. Yeah well Steve. I know you hear that I know like I say now. It's take out but I know us though is that Luka's is but anyway I I'm watching once this train now. Thomas is on the racetrack. It's a beautiful day. It's little coal. That's the one thing about Arkansas people at no hot springs the weather so different because you know last week was in the eighties. And then it's in the forties. You know it's just a different thing and then raises up the sixties and whatever but but they do an incredible job here. I'll tell you what I'm really impressed about. Steve they've and racing as you know all of you cover your the number one company racing if you look are ban participation in the country. Did you say baseball and football? You know stuff like that. Oaklawn is trying so hard because when you come in the gate they have set up have to take the temperature every day. What they're very diligent about it and the separation of people are legit. I mean they're they're going out of their way to make sure that they can keep this open and I gotTa tell you. I'm very impressed with everything. They do. Very impressive I really am. I don't say that lightly because you know let's say you know whatever the deal is I don't have anything to gain by just praising him but they are they do a great job and all about racing and I'm glad like you say there's a few games in town that are open and I'm glad you're on the air because I tell you I think you know for for a little while anyway people like yourself in some you know the media outlets that cover rations. That's the best we can do right now. Because it's GONNA be a while. I think before you see the fans understand really do hate to say no. That's no that seems to be the reality and as it happens our our sport and the industry overall is uniquely positioned to continue and operate and You know obviously there are situation in New York. You're going to wait until things stabilize and become you know. Become more acceptable to Conducting you know something that you know even though it's important and it would constitute Business and commerce and from a positive standpoint Under the conditions in the metropolitan area. You can't I mean it it. It's it's just a little too frivolous frankly But there will be a point you know hopefully in in coming weeks between now and and late. May that it's acceptable to you. Know to run a under the under the same conditions that are allowing you know the other venues low sal and Renton on the quarter and will rogers and fodder and and then Oakland and Florida. So THAT FORMAT THIS FORMAT. We can operate because listen. Ninety percent of handle was coming from eighty ws. Anyway I if that's true you know we're suited to operate at least at least to function. Oh yeah no question. That's why I think it will record. Set I'M NOT MISTAKEN. You don't want an either but I think there were record set by all those tracks little places little places especially I mean are are just this Monday Tuesday Wednesday and we're GONNA talk to John Lease here in just a couple of minutes. Nick before we go. I do want to ask you about Theo the the ORB gelding. That COMES BACK. I I don't I tell you the truth it's just a poor Mazarrosa like everything else. I've watched so many great horses for people over the years. Who knows better than you? I don't want to sound like Stevens now. But at the end of the day you know for some reason I mean yeah. I've had a few ones but I'm you know the Gioja Appease Makarios whoever else you know. They look like they were pretty good. But I don't know I thought Or obviously hasn't turned the world on fire as a stallion but this particular horses just been such a hard thing getting into the races and Just hopefully track you know here. It rains a lot as you could bear crazy. So worried about that but He's a distant source shave. He could come back whatever he'd be okay but I do have a couple of horses next week. If they get in I'll be okay and And make you get going again. You know I've had a bunch of two seconds and a lot of states. What about what about his winced his journey run back tonight to us? That's the most that believe it or not again. He had an outside closed. Couldn't get over Hums Ahmad. You know it seems like you run a you know what? Steve you'll appreciate this. I would say to myself man. Alan Churkin's is there any way you could get? This legislation passed and we can have Mug Cox again. Chuck Simon Love. These horses. Can't can't handle it and you put some stick is on Man. It attorney or or heart. The front had some stickers mud coughs whatever they it better you know what I'm saying. It's very hard so we get a lot of rain here to get a lot of rain and weather's beautiful now. It comes in cold fronts. And what you're seeing on your television you see. It's it's it's it's tracks awful lot you can do right. Y'All yeah are you. Based on based on the start. The other day he started about ten days ago I would imagine there's a maiden special weight for Tis the journey Losing weekend right in about three absolutely watch I actually. It's you know it's now Derby Day. Which is Arkansas? There'd be out. Sergei so is a race that day and yet Jesus James it very very nice This is funny things. If you've been around to gamble but now you know about all these things you own horses and that's what I love about you. You know you you you. You've got all your stake any game you know you're not one of those Put your money off. You know you you. You supported this which is great but also you love it. And which is which is great. But that's what's Fund. Second SORTA riders complaining about Things in behind my grown was GONNA be rough bird stone in the same you know his testicles on them so you know it's going to be the first time. I had a horse run second but if you know what re always talk about you know. Kelso or go of course commentator and whatever so you know what I'm GonNa tell them so this'll be second time gilding and hopefully it works and you know it's funny because he is by Ted now but I think you know unless you win everything today. You can't be a stallion. You just link grade one races. That's all. I mean. You know you can win some you know great to and placing a great one and maybe wind up somewhere but no one really wants them. I'm all right Steve. Today they just want to. Well what is what is what is way? Lucas say The ninety what does he say? Ninety eight percent of them should be Galdikas says the way too long and and you know that certain horses they could have you know they could have had real careers if if they just had not Not Delayed the decision to you. Know to gal and neck so sorry about Hank Steinbrenner and wanted wanted to talk about him and give people feel forum And meanwhile finish the meat strong couple of too many seconds but Still time to bring home a few wins New York. And I'll tell you something. Steve be honest. I didn't realize I used to watch with my dad but gunsmoke getting into and I'm getting into this alley him every night you could. You could discuss. You can discuss it that and the Big Valley with Tina. She's she's. She loves TV Westerns. Yeah unbelievable thank you. Thank you very much for sharing that with me but I wanted people your audience and all about Hanky was a really good guy really. I really appreciate it. And everybody enjoys hearing from Nick Zito. And you can follow nick on twitter as well and not a not a big prolific Zito racing on your twitter doesn't doesn't tweet a lot but I remember I can't even turn a computer. I was good. I flip phone you know. Yeah that's exactly. Take care of your family and keep up. Beloved Sharon togas safe. Okay absolutely Nick Zito. Nick always great best to Kim and we will see him soon. Nick Zito everybody to pay tribute to Hank. Let's take not at all. Let's take a break. Come back Johnny Lewis is GonNa join us from will Rogers and certainly deserves credit and appreciation for hearing the horse players. Just maybe what three hours of people saying no jackpot? Why are you doing this? And because the tote company couldn't execute yesterday no jackpot had will rogers and John Lees. We'll talk about it and talk about the meat as well. We're also going to hear from trainer Scott Young Today from one the NIGHTCAP and a Scottish talk about training and racing at will Rogers Mitch pools going to join us from the Los Angeles dodgers and much much more. We got a big a lot to do yet and a good way to start the even under the circumstances the passing Hank Steinbrenner. Everybody loves hearing from Dick back after this John Lewis. It's at the races with Steve. Vic on Sirius. Xm radio developed by horsemen bills. Dot Com is a cost effective time sitting environment friendly paperless revolution of how equine industries bill and receive payments vendors able to generate electronic invoices for each horse whose owners can pay through the same website with just one click secret bodies tax invoices handwritten checks and postage costs easy accounting for all parties with the highest online security measures. 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And I have to say excellent vocabulary right out. The Gate Conroy. Look gration and English. I'm an iron man. Let's go and I've been playing a lot of scrabble and so I'm looking for triple letter. Scores as much as I can So getting getting cusack XS in a very helpful but seriously thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it. And you're very kind and we are certainly sensitive to the fact that we are the beneficiaries of a global pandemic where tracks are shuttering their doors. We're not insensitive or tone-deaf to that But the truth is it's been a boon for our track on her and those that are able to stay open and they are exciting times for us but again we try to temper that enthusiasm appropriately. Well and nobody. I've said this exact same thing. I mean it is all tempered. And and there is you know the the undercurrent that keeps keeps things slightly subdued but at the same time to get this kind of exposure and to have the opportunity really for the horsemen and in for the region You know mid American racing during the winter I mean this is. These are meets that that our bread and butter for the people involved. I mean you're you're actually getting some ship INS and you know. We talked about it yesterday with Marcus Hirsch But I gotta say the thing that is going to have a lasting memory and the endearing of of will rogers two-horse players was the three or four hours. Yesterday that proved to be Ultimately a very satisfying outcome and I explained to people this morning. John that I got a question on on twitter yesterday morning. There's a rumor or it. The word is that that they're going to shift this new pick five to a jackpot and you confirmed it later in the morning and then what happened next is I think is going to be part of racing twitter lore. Well go for that and you're right. It was a situation where that what we do regret with all the confusion that was out there and I get that the truth is things. Were changing very quickly. There were instantaneous. Decisions and communication going on very rapidly. The truth is we're responding will. Rogers is of course to this additional audience and business and the ship and as you said similar to what? I think you saw at Bonner and hurt from Chris Itou Lack. They reacted to the demand as far as adding their pick by We did the same thing and so things were happening very quickly. The better have to remember if they don't want to become too confused and frustrated that it not sometimes easier said than done. You can't just change and wagers easily with a lot of without a lot of approval There's a lot of red tape and things like that to go through and every state is going to be different as far as the laws in that state. Or you know take out what you can and cannot do. The methodology is the word we use so we understand it was using a lot of it was changing rapidly. The track is trying to to react quickly into these increased demands and things like that but long story short to sum it up in the end. All's well that ends well as I said. Also the Chris Ca- to lack when he was I mentioned that to him the other day I do think that in the end. We have a wager that clearly the horse players have spoken up and said that they like this methodology At least for our track for now for what this is so again fifty cent. Pick five daily I believe it's going to stay on two through six as far as the races. Unintended racecard fifty. By and it's essentially a daily handicapping contests the pool minus the takeout will be paid out daily to whoever has the most winners period by five is. Nobody has five but it was going to get four out of five and so on so everybody who that day is gonNA get their chance to turn that. The pool is going to be paid out. You know what I mean. There's no doubt there's nothing along and I tell you what else we're not hearing. Nobody wants to pay for five a constellation so they can collect their six twenty. Nobody has spoken up about that either. So when pick five if you will well and you know the the one and the one element of that I suppose worth worth discussing or considering is to create the potential for a next day. Pick five carryover that if nobody hits five to not pay for four and to carry that over because pick five carryovers. John have been you know really the the the pick six carryover of of yesteryear. They've been very well received and I don't mean I don't mean a Jackpot type. I just mean the next day carry over like Tampa had last Wednesday. There's no question about that. So we'll just kinda see what happens with the wager this far as going on and and how it goes and continue to monitor that. I know because it is new to us and we'll just see how it goes. There's no doubt about that. There's a whole list of different methodologies that can be chosen from And the one thing that I think is clear though if you look at the reactions on social media yesterday and you alluded to it for. Its a very popular decision with the horse players. One that they have been heard and to that it You know as far as the Jackpot and just the perception being that the track is not getting too greedy Some people use the word robbed which you know. You see things like that out there. But as far as the their feelings about certain jackpots and methodologies of wagers the most important thing is that they feel that. We're being fair to the horse player so beyond that we'll have to see what else we can do. For the wager well It was a very welcome turnabout and it was instantly recognized and people were actually very gratified. Surprise John at at how quickly and the opportunity I I I think it really the way it played out was fortuitous because the fact that united towed could not get the programming done in time for the start of the sequence that that ended up being really fortunate and then in the interim Obviously you and management sat down and I do have to ask about an increased the opportunity out of Yes for an increase social media a communication vehicle. Because there's very little information on the website about the racing product and really a a meager presence on on twitter for instance in terms of communicating to players. So I have to speak to that in two ways. First of all social media that twitter has been a little bit slow to catch on in this region. That's the first thing that's not an excuse. It's just the fact second of all everybody does need understand something that they may. Not Wild horse racing does go on. Will Rogers because in the agricultural state of Oklahoma or racing is classified as a business of agriculture and therefore essential The simulcast is closed. Casino is closed and we are operating under all of those guidelines but one of those is that because the casino has ceased operations. We have been asked to cease promotion of the racetrack. So it's a very tricky thing right now because we want to be telling people about what we're doing because you have to like we've been to ask to silent by the Cherokee casinos and some of the others that remember the whole thing is connected with the casinos and surveys and the whole thing with that so with the casino being closed. It's very complicated. Because we're not able to put out a press release promoting new wager but yet we are reacting to the new audience and we are running pretending that we're not we just have to be very careful about what we say to the print media or certainly in social media but yesterday there's no doubt that the tweet that I put out that you're talking about Was absolutely need it and we got clearance from that from the necessary people to go ahead and put that out there so I think we handled it well but I just want people to have an understanding. We're not toned up. We are listening and I know that what you said is accurate. We have very little presence on social media Before there was maybe not a whole lot of interest right now certainly change. People are starved for information that we kind of have to play this dance kind of a high wire. Act of what we say. And what doesn't cross the line of promotion for the track so just so that people understand that point difficult for us to make that row any quicker into anymore That what it is but just real quickly. Last thing is now that I've been given the clearance. I do intend to use my twitter wisely and not perfectly accurate and professional and I will try within my little box if you guys as much information as I can argue in absolutely well done John and you know it's funny because I think for a lot of people who you know who know you from Del. Mar when they turned in you know turned on the Will Rogers Feed. I think were you know. Were either surprised or or in some cases you know tickled that that you know that you were at will rogers talk about How you ended up there and the Association okay. So that was actually two twenty thirteen and it connects to my pre prior employment at Lone Star. Park I was the announcer at Lone Star Park in Grand Prairie Texas eleven seasons between two thousand five and twenty fifteen was the year that I left that post so in twenty thirteen will rogers reached out to me strictly needing an announcer for their spring herbison. Exactly the meat that we're running right now. So I that was seven years ago That day Jive with the race days at Lone Star Park that I was able to do both at the same time so I was driving up here from my condo in Dallas and calling the races Monday Tuesday Wednesday driving back down to Dallas and calling Lonestar Thursday through Sunday. That went on for a little while For those first couple of seasons in twenty six teen in the winter I was offered the opportunity to expand my role that will rogers and take a position of racing secretary and I did. Of course take that and moved on from the position that I had strictly the announcer Lonestar to move into this expanded role. So I know that that's surprising to a lot of people that did not at all. Understand the background of the racing office I do come from a racing background from the very beginning. My Dad was richly with a trainer in southern California more on the backside in the front side but then beyond that I got the opportunity to begin working in the racing office at Del. Mar with Tom. Robbins and have worked there On and off with some time and now David Jerkins of course is the racing secretary so all of that went on. I think very much under the radar like you say because people more no me either. Is The del Mar simulcast host or is it track announcer but that was always sort of brewing under the surface. And then when I got that opportunity in two thousand sixteen I took it to expand the raw so ever since the spring of sixteen against guess that would make this season five if you will. We've had this role of racing secretary announcer and now off maker. So I promised by the way I'm working on that I never should have made that bill more reports to one. Please forgive me. But here's the thing. Though first of all there were scratches if windows seven to two second of all guys. I'm not that sensitive. Okay let me have it. If you don't like my line and you can let me know about it on twitter. Okay I we can take it and it's going to get better. I maintain that it's mostly accurate some mistakes but we're working on it okay. People beyond that though that's in Algeria and if that's the answer to your question for the background there I love it I I appreciate it. I because I did not know the specifics. I knew I knew your father. A connection and and You know was aware of the family But how you ended up And I actually when you bring up a Lonestar I kind of forgot nat going back to your days You know in the in the box at Lonestar Well John I appreciate you know much like with Chris Ca- to like last week I think will rogers to be acknowledged for the quick decisive change and Being Cognizant of player player reaction and Horse Player Desire and I think you know for you for the business. It's GonNa continue to be great. I mean this thing is pulling almost two hundred thousand A day and the players appreciate the openness the transparency and the opportunity to you know to flesh out what transpired and best of luck the rest of the way the season goes to March to May twenty third. Yes that's correct and fever. That really appreciate you having me on Anytime be happy to and We're we're just excited. We hope this thing can keep going The truth is these are exciting times here at the racetrack. So it Kinda helps keep morale up in otherwise very difficult times. Well and it's important. We don't know Lodestar you know where they stand. We'll try to see what Scott Wells where he you know where he is right now with the. You know the whether you know they're gonNA try to run themselves with their meat coming up soon and the region we did see that oaklawn making the announcement that they would not race beyond the scheduled closing weekend. a lot of this has to do with revenues associated with the gaming and You know the good news for both you really for you because You know here is a you know a racy no facility but clearly they handle. Numbers are really helping. Fill up the you know the personal account and it's important it's important that those decisions and you know some of the things that you're doing Go right to handle because it it. There's no other money coming in from the gaming So the best you can do on handle is gonNA be a an important part of you. Know of the purse accounts no question and we were the only game in town right now but by the same token the racing offices really proud of the product that we're able to put out right now and the veterans responding to it We're just really happy that there are some positive and they like our product right now. It's been a congenial. Well done. John Lewis I appreciate it and for those of you that yesterday got to got to know John. John J lease L. E. S. on twitter. And John is your conduit the right now for The Cherokee casino will rogers downs and When things normalized If you're in Tulsa which is one of my favorite towns you go out to just east to clermont and to will rogers and I think people are have put will rogers on their to do list of race tracks to visit now. John also working on that thing called twitter. You're right they are going about you go. I love it terrific. Hit John Lewis. Everybody who you probably know best from del Mar but are certainly enjoying. His has multiple responsibilities from racing secretary to Track announcer and morning line odds maker and really the only people. You're going to have to worry about her. Ed Derosa and Marcus Harsh. Those are the two most vocal morning. Line odds critiques. Don't theory that says to if you're playing well Rogers right now which. I don't know why you shouldn't be you better. Read what markets were just talking about. Oh man he has visit out how to play the track. I can't think that there's a magic combination. But he's just a sharp handicapper long story. Short is analysis has been fought on so far so be sure to check in with what he's talking about tests on it. That's why I got that down to two one. He talked about it. He didn't hurt didn't realize I love it. John Lewis. Thanks so much stay safe. Thanks Steve Well John Lewis. Visiting for the first time very cool. It's been a lot of first time visitors. And in Fact Mitch. Pool is going to join us. And Mitch is one of the owners of Fast Pharaoh from the the barn of Jeff Bondi but he's also the visiting clubhouse manager for the Los Angeles dodgers and he's been with the Dodger Organization for decades and last night. If you watch the one thousand nine hundred eighty eight game one replay. You don't believe what you just saw. Mitch Pool joins US NEXT. Appalachians with Steve on Sirius. Xm Radio Relation to your California Kentucky. Please consider leader shield leading all natural pace. The Great Work of Emanate E. P. H. The worst trainers who trust leader shield shouldn't use the word more contact. Joseph Allante two zero six zero in the business of horses in the world's only accredited equine business program the University of Louisville Equine Business Program. The University of Louisville has a legacy of excellence for more than twenty five years of equine business. 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We're back at the racist fifteen minutes into our two on this Wednesday and the course I mentioned the baseball tie-ins Today and our second conversation after Nick Zito opened the show to eulogize Hank Steinbrenner kind of a happier conversation here as another baseball guest ties in and Horse racing and baseball horse racing and all of the pro sports. There's there's considerable tie-ins The you know we we talk about the hockey guys. That are involved a lot. Eric Johnson. The for instance and so many more but when it comes to the timeliness it's just perfect because you read about Mitch Pool yesterday in the USA. Today and then Right on right on. Tv last night they replayed game one of the nineteen thousand nine hundred ninety eight world series the Kirk Gibson. You don't believe what you just saw home run. Mitch Pool was absolutely central to that story and has really spent his entire adolescence and adult life as a member of the Los Angeles Dodger Organization. And it's.

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Attack the Billionaires... Red Sox Ownership on the Mookie Betts Trade, Alex Verdugo and Ticket Sales Being Down; Mike Bloomberg Gets Into the Debate; Mike Tomlin Defends His Quarterback Mason Rudolph; Aubrey Huff Canceled By the San Francisco Giants

"I you know what I'm GonNa do. Today David decided to do. I'm going to go all I'm GONNA full Bernie Sanders and I'm going to hate on billionaires me millionaires and billionaires and I was a millionaire so it's just billionaires. Everything is the fault of Billionaires so which once I'm gonNA focus onto okay. Glad you asked. I'm going to focus on to Mike. Bloomberg many Mike Bloomberg and many John Henry focus on those two billionaires. And I'M GONNA try to decide which one is more cream G in front of the Cameras. So we'll talk about blew me many. Mike and we'll talk about John Henry With our friend Scott Mutual. Also we're going to tell you why Aubrey. Huff is banned from baseball. Julio Lugo Mania Romeros. They're cool. They're fine but no Aubrey huff. We don't he's not welcome back and baseball and Mute Museum for reason today he's going to defend myles Garrett. He's a Cleveland Rows Cam. He really went in. He is going to tell you why my e doesn't think myles Garrett he's the one guy out there who doesn't think myles GARRETT IS LINE CLEVELAND GUY. You know Cleveland Guy. All that on today's Callahan. Podcast brought to you in part by. Dc You Federal Credit Union Digital Federal Credit Union. You have a new car and a bad loans with high interest from the dealer. Then do what I'm telling you for a long time refinance would. Dc You they can help lower your payments and lower your rates more and more control the money what will dc you mean to you insured by NCUA membership required visit vcu Dot Org. Let's go on and this is the Gerry Callahan. Podcast I still want to get the name. Right Gerry. Callahan. Columnist should write more. No make no mistake recommend. I don't think we make our trade based on whether Gerry Callahan approves of our Trade Gerry. Callahan you don't train. Mookie Betts to get under the CVT. We traded mookie Betts and David Price and got back significant value in return. Some of you no doubt felt the same way in two thousand and four when we traded. Nomar who like. Mookie was a hugely popular homegrown player. These come on out and support this team. Here's Gerry Callahan. No mute and Dave. I think I've Decided have my my new favorite hobby like I like you know watch. It's like watching football like everyone else. I like watching golf. I enjoy watching you know political theater. My new favorite pastime my favorite hobbies watching billionaires squirm watching these oligarchs uncomfortably Try to explain things because they think they're smarter than everyone just because they have a billion dollars and you know I'm referring to at least two people here. I'm referring to the guy we just heard from John Henry. Who CAST HIM. He must give the most uncomfortable press conference of any team owner team management. Guy. I've ever seen but he always does. I don't know why they keep talking about out. I guess because he owes the team and he feels an obligation. But it never goes well and I'm also talking about Mute Sky Blue me mini. Mike is just every day every day. We wake up as many Mike Fan. You must wake up cringing. Because you know he's GonNa say something stupid you know there'll be another tape uncovered of him insulting somebody else. I mean. I don't know what's going to be today. Maybe washed up bald football players. And you'll bail on him. Yeah the people are definitely going into the archives get Michael Bloomberg dirt and getting them on there and it's only been like a week but it seems like he's still getting past that because he's still still being up he's I think he may qualify for the debate and he is the John Henry ones are just the that's awkward. It's like I almost feel bad for him because he's just so with you. Well he just seemed so it's just so unnatural and uncomfortable it's just wide even put them out there. It's just there's nothing. You're comfortable when When Mike Bloomberg type dumb farmers are you comfortable talking about blacks? Commit all the crimes I mean? What's GonNa what are what are you GonNa. What are we going to see today? I'm not sure it's the you're right in that it's working for just looking at a national poll. He's second nationally behind Bernie way behind Bernie but he's second. I'll tell you another billionaire oligarch. Who's not getting his money bag for his book. Tire is last play in this poll. He's got two percent nationally. He spent not as much as blew me but he spent a lot of his own money and all he does is wear the same tie every day and talk about climate change and eight work and Tempstar go play with your grandkids. Go Play Golf. Well that's his problem is is that you're just doing on climate change. Jeff bezos. I believe just raise the bar on that and said he's GonNa throw ten billion towards climate change his problem So it's just not working people don't care it's not their top priority. Nobody's top priority. At least nobody over the age of sixteen. I got a phone. Burg's vote Tom Steiner. But nobody who is eligible to vote. Support you two percent nationally. This just came up from NPR and Mariss Birdie Sanders at thirty one Mike Bloomberg at nineteen. I don't know if this was taken before. All the recent gaffes about stop and Frisk and I'm a farmer you name it. He says health that everybody women old people seniors Gay People Blacks into the young people. I I the old come at your heart. I heard one theory that his his team his side his camp is putting this all out to get it over with and then they're going to say you know we've already talked about that. We're moving on that. His guy his his campaign is responsible for leaking this video. I don't believe it. I love that strategy. You do I not get ahead of in early. Get out before the. There's so there's no surprises once you get towards the end when it gets to. Super Tuesday and all the crunch time. Here's your use that on you as you lost you yet or still I still. I still think he's going to be there in the end. I still think he's GonNa be there in the end. It's going to be defeat the comedy. That's going to be his role but people are going to look at it. This way is that you have. None of the other establishment. People in the Democratic Party have been able to mount any sort of serious momentum or campaign right so you got Bernie the the communists who keeps winning and scares the hell out of the rest of the Democrats they may have to just be. This is our best case scenario. Because there's nobody else that's really. In how many scandals? How many stupid quotes can you handle? Here's the problem is even without those. He's a terrible candidate. He's seventy eight. He's five foot four. He has no charisma. Atoll and he's got a long track record of saying things you know a of stepping in it and that's GonNa come back to bite him every day and he's a terrible debater. He is qualified just breaking qualified for. Wednesday's that'd be tomorrow's debate in Vegas. He'll he'll be terrible. The focus will be on him because Democrats hate billionaires. They don't like you know they. You state millionaires. But then you know. Liz and Bernie became billionaires. And then so they're okay with million as they hate billionaires and I victims will turn their guns on him. This is a big break for Bernie Sanders because he was you. Know the the presumptive Front runner and he was going to be the focus of this debate. Now it'll be Bloomberg and now they'll attack him. Liz and Buddha judge clover shower will go at Bloomberg and Bernie will just continue to same old rant about is Bloomberg allowed to stand on. The box would question that they decided that and Nettie qualified right. I don't know you allowed to bring your own box. I mean I've I've I'm not a hightest so I'm not GonNa like I'm not I'm not either but I'm fortunate enough to be a little bit taller so I mean i. I know that. Just be honest if he's standing next to someone like trump and trump six three and he's foot tall and it's it doesn't look good. It doesn't look presidential. I hate to say it. He was born that way. There's nothing you can do about it. I feel like trump in that situation would like go over and like instead of like shaking his hand. He'll go like tap him on the head this. He will loom overhead. No question about it in Bloomberg and he's used to be Republican now. Democrat and Democrats hate the hate billionaires but especially they hate self made billionaires. They don't like people that are living to create jobs to pay their taxes all that stuff. They can't stand. They like freeloaders guys. Guys in heritable trump was A Democrat for the Brian Makes Sense makes sense that they're all crossing. It's all mixing into one big city. Will it will be amazing if he's the nominee and it's to New York billionaires in their seventies one you know used to be Republican out Democrat Democrat used to Republican who both supported. Stop and Frisk. We'll have a long history of San stupid stuff. Yeah it will be fascinating. But I'm going to trump tweets dumber stuff dumber stuff at Bloomberg. Has I mean when you see the video. It's never in context in a like when he says the easiest to be a farmer. I'm thinking I don't think that's true. Do you think do you think you could be a farmer? I don't think I could put up. It's hard I mean you got. You got a lot of variables you get the weather. I mean the the the soil physical Labor to. There's a lot of planning and other things that go into it. You gotta be you know the farmer's Almanac while you gotta be pardon you gotTa be part geologist. You gotta be part Weatherman. You gotta be part like Labor to we have time how easy it is to plant a seed processes. I could teach anybody even people in this room so no offense intended to be a farmer you. It's a process. You dig a hole you put a seed in you. Put Dirt on top ATWATER. Up comes the corn then. We had three okay. Tell me how that he plays. Nebraska said no disrespect assisted. Don't be much gray matter I. I'm sorry that that is just the dumbest political gaffe. I can remember. Not Trump's made his share no question but that's farmers that's insulting workers laborers. You know people get up early and get dirty and dig holes and and then grow crops trying to talk about the difference in the changing of the workforce in the way in which he went about that. It was no choice and and do you think any of his opponents. Democrats now trump down. The road are gonNA edit that Fairly are you going to put it in context? I mean look at the people that he's competing against the Democratic Party. None of them are farmers. And that League Uber you can tell they never really had a real job. Besides the postage. That's the problem. Never going to cause Bernie Sanders never done anything but be a public servant list jobless lose a job but she didn't get it fair and square. She got it by lying and saying she was a was a native America. But we'll see tomorrow it'll be fun. They're gonNA turn their guns on. Your Guy. Blew me. Hope he gets box. We'll see what happens. But he gets Boxes Cobra. Shot get a box. 'cause she's only like five two splits warns not that tall. Either box was tall. And you know everyone's like eight feet tall because they'll competing for maybe like put him up in Vegas. They can create a little bit of show with it. Like a sage of some we. We asked this yesterday rimmer and I want to know maybe I figured out. I think colaninno figuring out why Mute is a Bloomberg guy figured out how to get that money Bloomberg is paying people hundred fifty bucks to tweet something positive about him. He's paying everybody everything. He spent four hundred and seventeen million on commercials just commercials not on his ground. Game or staffers own paid and look where. It's getting far four. It's not going what's it. What's his threshold like? How high will he spent two billion and he's worth what fifty? He's workout a lot. A lot of his wealth is in like annuity new new. It is okay that because it's just kitchens continues to roll over. It's not something that it's not like. He had a company that he sold and that it has a finance like this this Bloomberg company that he has and the news channel it just keeps bringing yeah keeps bringing in because of the subscription that you pay for it and all the the the technology that it provides it's something that brings in a consistent revenue so you're basically saying he could be the richest man on the planet if you wanted to be in one moment by selling Bloomberg yet. I don't think he he would do that. Because it's the way in which it's established. I think it has to many different venues. He could sell off. Why you care about this isn't there. Oh yeah that's fast could smell except for me richest. Basically saying he has. He's when you say new. It ties like He. He could literally spend twenty billion dollars on this election. If you wanted to write I mean at some point you have to be. But he's crazy enough to do so. Well any sole so seventy eight and got nothing else to do. I don't think much of a Golfer But I think he is a pretty good. Golf is he. From what I've heard even those a little little people can golf there. There's plenty of them out there on the tour. I've seen some good ones I noticed played down in In the ocean club down paying everybody to do you know to say. Nice things about him or make. What did you get some of that? Are you getting some of this now? I'm not on the payroll not tweeted but have you now. I do not like to tie bow and political. I want a tweet about my political coming around this Bloomberg for one hundred bucks each tweet there you go. I could do. I could cash in. Actually I don't think you should charge more. I think you can get more true. I think it should be based on your followers. And then based on how your tweets go you get yourself a nice little vacation. It is funny when you hear people like Ed Davis. Talk about how you know. They believe in Mike Bloomberg. And you know it's it's just a job getting paid they don't really see they're not like Bernie Bros. They're not in it genuinely with passion. I mean the CHR if he gets around on it because of the New York connection to this and because he replaced Giuliani as the mayor I wonder the place Giuliani would play in this. You know he's already got knows a lot afraid to expose them I it's just. It's just begun for Bloomberg would be so dirty trump against Bloomberg. Be All kinds of hitting tapes and you know pregnant. secretaries were forced to get abortion. Donald Trump is one of those guys both ways. No I'm just saying trump's already been exacted. They've already done this four years ago and the other thing is every time someone brought something up on him just made him stronger. Which was absolutely insane. When you you'd hear it or see it you'd be like this has gotta be at. This is that Presentation at Daytona. Five hundred was just brilliant. I mean it's simple. You fly in low and you know take a spin around the track in the Limo and then just wave to the crowd and it was huge. That was two hundred thousand people cheering for him. And you can't imagine any of them would vote for Bloomberg certainly not vote for Bernie Bernie wants to ban cars. You think supporting Ascott country for burning. I don't think I don't think Bernie's can would trade well down now. Now that he's he's he's trump top down Florida on Sunday and You know what it just keeps coming last night if you missed it Ryan Newman. The drivers had a brutal accident. The end of the Daytona five hundred to rain delayed Daytona five hundred and it was touch and go after the accident. Obviously the first responders are out there. The ambulance is out there. They rush him the hospital on twitter. You following all the stuff about Ryan Newman with his kids and Ryan Newman. Now what a nice guy he is. And then there are reported at the hospital waiting for a statement finally. It wasn't that long at say two hours later. There comes a statement from NASCAR saying he's in serious condition but it's not life-threatening which is amazing right if that's twenty thirty years ago he's dead. It's all these new safety technique precautions to see that flip in to see him get crushed. That way is is scary. Ryan Newman off. Turn FOUR FOR THE FINAL TIME. Blaney to the outside to the inside here cubs hamlet up the outside. How crash into the law into the air goes upside down in a shower of sparks on his group. Ryan Newman comes across the line four. But it's also that's where you talk about the good thing that twitter provides the real time. I know this has before like you would see that crash. The broadcast would end. And then you'd go to bed and just wake up the next day and hope to get news on at the same time. Somebody's tweeting out that it's life threatening. You know Kobe thing. You're still able to filter through a lot of in real time which I think that that helps people in the peace of mind. I mean I think you just make that assumption watching it. It's certainly good flipped over. Mmediately you get crazy left-wingers tweeting about how Karma because Ryan Newman's a big trump guy a big trump supporter say he deserved. And if you haven't seen these aren't I think there's a couple of bloop check marks on there but there's a couple of compilations of the tweets and don't get the whole watching watching him leave something different than you that when something bad happens when you refer to it as Karma. It's just it's a well it's just like a life thing there's no one above US pulling strings that decides you know. Jerry was an asshole and tweeted this. I'm going to have him smash into a car today. There's just nothing that happens like that and the crazy thing about this nascar stuff is like I've seen seen an accident. You see someone like you're driving eighty and you clips or you like or even twenty five miles an hour and you see the damage that causes like think about how crazy it must be when you're going one hundred eighty six speed. Were they at when because he was You looking just before the accident if you haven't seen it it's been viewed like ten million times already. I mean they're literally coming down the straightaway so his front bumper and I mean his back bumper and the guy behind him is like three inches thick. I never hundred and eighty six. Speed is can't even tailgate on ninety three going sixty five Ryan Newman flies to the air after he spent sideways cars on fire flying through the air and land another car. This poor bastard has been driving for however many miles. How how many forty three so? I think he's probably been driving scenes racist five hundred miles. How how long were they to the finish close where there was no? His car crossed the finish line. So it's five hundred miles. Poor bastard not not Ryan Newman. I feel bad for him. But the other guy driving along feeling good finishing in the top whatever five and he's happy and boom. His car lands on top of him and wrecks his car and ruins his chances and I you know. Hopefully he's okay too but it's just so crazy so dangerous and so that sport is R- ridiculous the ability for those guys to drive those high speeds and to like you said be be that close to them and cheating death because if you you just think about it like how many times when you're driving if you just you mishandled something and next thing you know you're creeping into another lane like you do that you crash into a wall. The good news is these guys. I don't think they're texting and driving. Are They? Because that's what most accidents. No Tech driving texting driving driving texters. I'm that was one of my New Year's resolutions. I do. The voice activated tax. I never text and drive just people when I'm running around my bike and it just scares me to death. Everybody's texting especially in the city traffic. You go look at Cosby ten cars and our own than August looking at their phones. I actually think playing music no interest. No you're going to die like him scrolling up and down bad bad call by me. That's why you have serey when you're just tell Siri play this. Yeah there's been shuffled his replay. The here's the problem is the cops. Don't take it seriously. I mean naked literally. Set up a sting. They take drunk driving seriously. Texting and driving is more dangerous than drunk driving more because I went to A. It's much much more prevalent and be at least trunks are trying to keep it between the lanes trying to keep it between the lines. They're trying to they're doing aren't texters. Like fuck it. I'M GONNA run. I gotta get this mess and there there. You see ten in a row all texting. You'll never see ten drunk in a row now these days. It'd be an aberration that you could see a cop on detail or cup you know. And and he'll see one texture after another and do nothing they don't really care. The drunk drivers are focused on getting to point B. I gave tryon. Yeah they might only have one eye open but to risk but they are trying to so it has texters. I got an accident a year and a half ago. I got my total by sixteen year. Old Girl t-bone me and I'm convinced she was texting. She was looked up barely. Had time to see her but she was not even looking at me. No breaks right just crushed me feet from dying. It was the front left quarter at that. She hit instead of the front door Anyway I'm thinking you know that the cops immediately say I need your phone or maybe you know whatever pulverize and I think it's a it's a violation. It's like being drunk and I said the COP. There's nothing nothing in the record that police report nothing about texting. No I said she was texting. Are You Gonna? He goes now. We don't do that. You don't investigation. Not Unless you died so I said so I died. You would prove that. She was texting and she'd be responsible. But because you know I'm came two feet away from that's not an issue now. We don't do that. He did not care so I see why you take texting very seriously yes. It's not even that it's more when I'm running biking and I'll see a car like doesn't even see me and I'll be like you know. This is scary. I'M GONNA end up. I don't know when I'm going to die but I know how that I'm going to get hit now. Are you by eighteen year old girl? Who's texting her boyfriend. Inner Jetta She's GonNa hit me like bullshit no jet no jet is GONNA kill you. It's got to be a bigger agenda. You would just bounce off chat with me like John Wick. You would hit off and you'd be fine. Didn't die because then these Brady to Dallas rumors never would've happened right. Yeah the jet is not going to get you. It's gotta be some bigger. She's GONNA use her mother's Range Rover there. You got me. That would and she won't even know. What should we text bike? Do you bike on city streets. No well I do until I got. My bike stolen ahead an old mountain bike. Okay and I've biked all over the city. It was fun because it just you know those guys in the city streets like very seriously. I've got a screen down residential. That's a little more family friendly The name what you think I bike like a mile. Maybe just a little neighborhood do laps. Now I go. I went along the river when before I got my bike ripped okay. That's fair. Good only place. You don't have to stop because every two seconds but up in Maine bike all the country roads right. This is the piece I get worried that people that bike and take over the road and get pissed at you when you're driving by right mixed feelings about Boston. Screamed at by some guy in the bike lane as I was walking across the street and he goes. Hey Hassle watcher. You're going I'm like I'm walking walking and the Guy Screamed at me screaming the view. Yes screamed at me. I was walked back. I I look I was like I was shocked. I look back with the look in the and a woman who was two steps behind me. She goes bikers are very serious and I was like Ireland rights. That you don't have let me I bike. I don't I don't stop at Red Lights but I don't have to. I don't acknowledge you. Just you know your traffic. I go right through stop signs. I've never been written up. Of course I jaywalk all day. Everyone jaywalks right but you find the power on the bike things. You don't follow the the laws of us not just sexy texters. Yeah follows the law if you if you were set alight. You're the one who's GONNA pay the price it's not like you know the guy hits you. I'm the one who's going to get hurt right. Probably but it's not by Jetta though. Okay it's not a jet. What will it be it'll be? The Range Rover is a good call. Many Range Rovers. I'll say some Girl in her mother's Suv We like Volvo Suv. Or maybe like an old explorer. Sorta thing one of those that will get you. Don't even know she hit me. I'll be dead bleeding out of the ditch. The Fund my body like in a month and she'll be you know they'll took her phone texting her boyfriend. Make sure you get condoms. My Mom and Dad are away for the night. Actually she'll probably take a picture like look. I just killed this guy this pothole. This podcast was killed a but a where were we. We were mentioning was Mike Bloomberg Data Rabbit Hole. Yes in which what we we we're GONNA get to. We're going to get to the other oligarch who embarrassed himself yesterday. John Henry and I can't tell you how much joy it and it's so bad for the red sox now. They're even getting criticized in their own newspaper. Which you know is a new low but I WANNA I wanNA mention Aubrey huff first. Because it is you know we promise you you know to keep a top of the The cancel culture and here. We are Aubrey huff. Former SAN FRANCISCO GIANT FORMER TAMPA BAY. Ray a decent major league player more than decent a good major league player. A good player for the two thousand ten San Francisco giants who won the World Series and. They're having a ten year reunion shift. The Red Sox players like an eight year reunion nine year. Union twelve year reunion. They wait for ten years the having a little party in San Francisco. He's been uninvited because he texted. I mean Tweeted some things that people in San Francisco don't like he said he's a right. Winger is kind of a zealot is a gun rights guy. You show me something on there. That is really offensive. You have his tweets while I mean he did taxed about going over to Iran and bringing back ten women. That's the Brigham back. That's not tasteful but is it really that offensive say offensive. It's not tasteful and it's offensive bringing back for what Iranian women. Because they're very attractive and do what with him? He's like a married guy with a family right but I believe they was in. He was inferring. Some of the other things based on that to have some relationship with them. So let's so let's see I need any tweeted. That he wants to teach his sons. How to handle a gun IF BERNIE GETS IN. Kosovo as we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA RISE UP AND WE'RE GONNA REVOLT. No such little bit dramatic but still fun. We're talking about dramatic okay. That's fine that one's not gonNa just want review so the giants have have a reunion and they say you can't come because you don't like Bernie Sanders. The Red Sox have reunion and they honor. Julio Lugo who beat up his wife they honor Manny Ramirez. Who beat up his wife so you can be a red sox player and you come back anytime to cheers applause awards. If you beat up women or to make a few make a joke in San Francisco about bringing I don't even get the joke. But bring a robbing and assaulting renting women to come back then he also talked about how well the also gave the organization. Shit for hiring a female coach to staff. Well he said. Can you imagine taking hitting instruction from a softball player right? What the Hell's wrong with that? That's his opinion it is. Is it a fence. That he doesn't take the a softball player could teach major leaguers how to hit while. I think it's more of that. A woman couldn't do it okay. She's a woman she's he wrote. But what are you right? He wrote? I'm supposed take in stride. He said it was a PR move. What a joke cake. But is that the woman coach for the what is it the niners Katie souls. She's not just a woman she's a lesbian woman. So get it right. It's it's a wonderful thing. We all think it's a great thing right ideal. I think it's great I do. I think it's great one of my favorite holiday lesbian about that one of the problems with the NFL. Not Enough Lesbian coaches someday. Hopefully every team will have like six of them. And we'll all be better off just goes to prove you don't need to be summer player or a man debuted coach. Aubrey. Huff beat up his wife. Like Julio Lugo or Manny Ramirez you think he would have been invited back. I would've San Francisco. I don't care more about words and they care more about Being triggered than they do about see I was more like. I'm honestly offended by Julio Lugo beating up his wife but I was offended that I couldn't watch a red sox game when he was playing. Because all you do is adjust as his cup the whole time which was so disgusting. He'd be standing there on second base and hammered himself. And I'm like this. I can't watch this. This is like it's like borderline porn. When when he got arrested. We gotta look. I think pretty banged her head in a car. The Hood of the car or something down in Houston. It was one of those deals like with Dennis Johnson. Dennis Johnson held a knife to his wife's throat and the sun and Dennis Johnson the Celtic yes former Celtic really the late self attract and he was a Nice Guy. He was a good guy to meet the media in his career. He was approachable guy. Great player Great Defensive Player. Larry Comb the best player the best team maybe ever had. It was so disappointed to learn that he had that in him. Because I liked Julio Lugo came to the Jimmy Fund clinic when he was with the red sox with us when we used to go there and visit the kids and most of the kids didn't give a damn about you know Gerry. Callahan or Kirkman. Han John Dennis they. We did our best. Wally dolls and you know we tried to. You weren't the main attraction day but we would try to bring a ball player or someone like you know. Kurt shillinger with brought Keith Folk. One time and he was great. Who they'll logo is the best. He would like. Look a look for this kids from other countries. Kids to come here. You'll get treated because this is the best place in the world and there was some Hispanic kids. I forget where they were found somewhere in Central America South America. He would seek them out because they couldn't speak English and he would talk to them in Spanish and he just bright the day of the parents the kids he was awesome and I liked him and I rooted form and then he went and banged his wife's head into the hood of a car or something said obviously not the not the man I thought he was didn't they always. I could never ever stand up and root for the Guy. Again of course. Threat Sucks have no problem. They invited him back to their little old timers game. Big Big round of applause. He was the. Mvp of the game gave a big trophy so they don't care about things like that. I'm going to guess if he were like Aubrey huff and he would tweeting. You know the nasty things about Bernie Sanders. They probably wouldn't want him around but all he did was smack. His wife around is tolerance for that crazy. When you think about you'd see that side of him right now you see him in the Jimmy Fund and then you see all these wonderful things and and doesn't like puzzle you that you can go. How do you? How can you flip the switch to do that? After everything you just did you have that new just completely snap and and Bashar wife's had shouldn't surprise me because most people who do things like that have the the other side the the the good side because they have to it's constant Yin and Yang Women. People live on the OJ Simpson. Once in a restaurant. He was with mcdonagh and he was saying to everybody laughing baton a Tapa people slap people on the back and he was like you know the mayor he was everybody's favorite and then you find out what he's really like. And you say wow. That was all an actor. Also got convicted of armed robbery. Serve some time for that. The other thing he was acquitted for you know he's evil. He's pure evil and yet have our in Hernandez who was it. Who said was a great Bernarda was at volume city at heart gold Aaron Hernandez had heart a goal. He gets swept up with the wrong crowd. Right that that's a tweet or a comment that just age is poorly. No hates to enough said some dumb things in my life and I I definitely have. I wouldn't want that on your stay. I wouldn't want that. We're looking more backlash uninviting behalf for just letting them come and seeing what happens like what do you think good point they just like a turtle boy howdy word that like the moment you give into the blue checkmark question. That is true. I agree with that. The giants made a statement. It wasn't like anyone specific. They don't have You know a team mate That it's the organization. They they said because of his history of race racist misogynist An inappropriate tweezers the giants with support of Donald Trump. They said earlier this month. We reached Aubrey up. To let them know that he will not be included in the upcoming two thousand said world's World Series Championship Reunion. Abi Aad has made multiple comments on social media that are unacceptable and run counter to the values of our organization while we appreciate the many contributions that Audrey made in two thousand ten championship season. We stand by our decision. You're right Dave. I mean you don't do this. We just comes. It's like yeah. Is that crazy riddick? Right winger but you don't really make big deal out now. I like the fact that he you know the doubling down is taking his stance and being like faith wasn't for me. You wouldn't even be having else reunion. I do like when people do that. One to stand there I mean. What is he missing these missing like a cocktail party? Or maybe I'll walk out on the field. You'RE GONNA miss a walk on the field and wave to the fans. He's still got his ring. I wish it was somebody known but when I searched this last night I saw a tweet from somebody who said he's not banned because he supports Donald Trump he's banned because he is Donald Trump and I wish I I wish I could. I wish that was somebody value. It's the way it's the way it is now you can again. I was beat up your wife but you can't support the president of the United States in two thousand ten with the San Francisco. Giants one hundred fifty seven games at forty six homers. Eighty six hit two ninety finished seventh in the League in the MVP voting so that was a pretty damn good season for Aubrey. Huff But he will not be celebrating it with his teammates you know what else is teammates. Maybe some don't like maybe some do. They will not dare if some of them think he's getting screwed here and wish he were. They won't say it. Now it's San Francisco. What is curving feeling? Say about the him either when he goes to these reunions and this team. He's back right but has teammates. I mean I'm sure. Some of his teammates have different views. The same as didn't like him anyway. But you will never see I should say but you rarely see curt schilling turn on a teammate. I mean he never misses a chance to talk about a great. Whoever it is Pedro. Who was you know? They weren't great friends but he will say nicely. Ask all teammates out for stuff like that. I've seen that on tweets guys that he didn't think were professionals that right while but that was not because of of personal views but he was back last year I defend way was last year. That was that to celebrate. Something reunion of Four would have been like the fifteen th reunion. Yeah for the. They never miss a chance to sell. They're going to have to do a lot of those this show. Yeah there's GonNa be a bobblehead head for days dollar dollar hot dog days w yeah. We'll have like fifty cent beer night. this is. GonNa be good Jerry. Jerry run the basis night spike Jerry. 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You can't like go onto youtube go on any website without seeing a Bloomberg ad and he won't do much free stuff he won't like I said won't sit down with Mark Levin he won't do you know interviews for free because he doesn't care says I need to control the narrative. I want to control the message. I'm paying the money. I'll buy whatever I'll spend whatever it takes exactly do it your way and don't get something we've never seen before we'll find out if it works like people know trump's billionaire not clearly not in Bloomberg's case but trump didn't spend his own money in two thousand sixteen yen cut to bution spent a lot less than Hillary. He just spent some of his money. Though right I spent a good amount. Not Fifty million Four hundred seventeen million. He did not spend a good amount of his own money. He got caught Dubuche and he did a lot of free media. He was smart. In that regard. He did Appearance Alleys and those were carried by even CNN MSNBC we're carrying his rallies for a while they help spread the narrative and then he wouldn't turn down any interview fact. He went on with Dennis Callahan. Rich which we're GONNA play one of these days. We said he sat down with Kirk and me and Dino and it was it was. It was interesting in looking back. We all had a nice giggle but we didn't think he was going to be president. We talked a lot about Bernie. We're GONNA play that one of these days Dave. Yeah pretty funny to sit down this go through that I was. I was curious as to how stupid I would sound like but that was right in the height of Brady support him and that's true. Brady Brady pulled. His support. Not pulled refused to clearly support because his wife didn't like Trump and lots of people out in like trump so we were asking him a lot of questions about about Brady and craft. He has a good relationship with both like Brady goes and plays play golf not anymore. No days are over. Yes nothing where? We weren't even allowed to ask about trump in the final days of our Brady relationship but We'll play that another day. Trump did trump says a lot of weird uncomfortable things but he doesn't look uncomfortable in his skin. He doesn't even look uncomfortable in his hair. Does he know or the orange door the comfortable in his orange skin right John. Henry has not looked comfortable in his skin. One time since he's been here for twenty years he looks like he loathes doing this much. What is the joy of owning the Red Sox? If you can't enjoy it like if I was really owned the Red Sox I'd be sitting there you don't think he's a purist sitting there behind home plate trick and a beer. Hey now sits next to the dugout a lot but I would be drinking beers hanging with the fans like I don't think he interacts been. I mean he's moved mark. Cuban thing Mark Cuban spends the whole game yelling at the refs. He so annoying because he can. I watch it across from the Dallas Bench couple years back and it just so annoying swearing screaming at the refs the whole game. He like swearing. Yeah you WANNA frigging team to sit back and act like it put John. Henry Likes Baseball game that his baseball walk he likes talking about it. A stats and the bill. Because he was a bill James Disciple but this part you know getting down to talk to the the the the the peons are the lowest the lowest. What do you call them in the British Caste System? The the please please getting down homicide esque actually rubbing elbows with the common man. Not for him. He's a billionaire and acts like it. He's got a two hundred foot yacht. It's parks it out on the Boston. Harbor rights and Rai. It's probably hasn't been on a commercial flight and thirty years in he. I envy that. Yes I it's you know He. He likes to rub elbows with the other oligarchs and and that's about it but He wants a year. I guess you know occasionally more than once a year because he feels like he has to get the message out. He sits before the media does down spring training. Does this thing where sits with Tom? Warner at Sam Kennedy. Their human shields weren't as CO owner. And and and Sam Kennedy Says Bobo. And they sit there and deflect when they can but John Right now John Henry is in a tough spot because he has to lie asked to what they had to do yesterday. They had to lie. And I'll tell you why they traded. Mookie BETTS I understand why. Mookie betts a year left free agent. I tried to explain this to mutable three weeks ago. It kept saying you gotta sign him. They were never going to sign him. He was not going to sign. They were going to trade him. I'm not sure if they could have gotten more or less. I don't know what was out there. But they had to trade him. They got a young player. He's a punk but they got a young player. Return IS GONNA play right. And he's going to get hurt but we'll see how that goes. They didn't talk to trade David Price. They traded their best healthy pitcher because he has ninety six million left on his deal. That is a salary dump. There's no other word for it. They couldn't answer that question. They they could tell you. You had to train mookie. We had to get younger all that they didn't have to trade price they dumped salary John. Henry who's fenway sports group is worth six point six billion tried to get under the CB. Do whatever it's called. Gt Salary special. And he did. He's on he's on the way because he dumped his best healthy pitcher. You can't look people in the eye and say it is not a salary dump but he tried. Let's let's hear from Let's hear from John Henry Dave. I'd like to begin by addressing Red Sox fans directly about this whole the whole Offset Cola. He is reading from a statement he says. I want to directly address. Red Sox fans and he sits there and reads like from a prepared text from one of his Publicize never come off while today. The only thing he sounds really genuine one thing. The felber mass thing was the only thing I'll give him credit for Walk Number Studio. He was listening. You Know How much credit deserves the station? That was paying him. Twelve million dollars a year didn't add a did an interview with him. That day came in with Makino and they had a PR people and he gave all these canned answers. And then because one of those guys fell groom as in south of life. He stormed the studio totally screwing over his partner Ian Moderately and gave them twelve. I think he was a great example of this guy thinking everybody is below him on the food chain. What we're all here to serve him. I know his servants and butlers and drivers he looks at. I'm going to say not just me but he looks at you know the CEO of calm the same way. He looks at his driver. You're gonNA serve me. I'M A I'm a billionaire. Open the door. Write me a check. I will tell you what to do. You don't tell me what to do that. One on the right there right. They're going over to to to Ninety eight point five and doing impromptu interview who's absolutely screwing over his radio park right. Radio didn't give a shit all your radio. Talk about the quality of the man he could give a shit but as business partners or anybody who deems beneath him on the on the food he could've turned around and went back to ee. I to shit all over. Felker in mass. Put our people to him. We're not people. We're all just pawns in his little chess game. He doesn't give a shit about anybody except himself and fellow oligarchs but here's him sitting down at the Park Picnic Bench Fort Myers speaking directly to the fans were used challenging off-season but this one has been particularly challenging me. Begin by saying that while they've been presented with an extraordinary set of challenges this off-season those of us sitting here today know that her baseball operations department under Hyman Bryant's leadership has handled these challenge. These challenges extremely well. I don't know how much you guys WanNa hear from this put. It's incredible I mean that's the level of energy get once a year from this ghoul. I mean it's incredible I've ever was when he compared trading mookie Betts Trading Nomar. What is poor call him. What did he used to come before you know? He went full corporate. I can't forget to remember. Is that the creepy. Mr Creepy voice doesn't just exude not asking like in charge of it's very sheepish. Talking about stairs you'll ordinal Marin he totally flawed comparison. Even a casual fan knows. Nomar wasn't one of the three or four best players in baseball when they dealt him. This is a myth. I was here front row center Theo Theo. But it is a myth that he Perpetrated FOR YEARS. It was not an unpopular deal. It was not you know people were excited about Orlando Cabrera. They were cited about Doug Mikhailovich Great Defensive Player and Nomar was all sulky and he was not in a good place. Bit Injury was. It was not unpopular deal and it worked wonderfully and the results. Were fairly immediate this. This we're not gonNA for a while If this is a good trainer bad trade but he can't I mean there's no comparison understand why they just don't say it like. Hey just come out and say salary bump. He didn't WanNa stay where resilience at what I say. We'll get to that. We'll get to the Sam Kennedy explanation of where they are still but It's just a John on our own Stan musial because I know most ants young red sox fans of the same thing that day that they traded to the day that San Samuele retired that that broke his heart or something for the car. No doubt felt the same way in two thousand four. We traded Nomar who like Mukhi was a hugely popular homegrown player. All this and the organization hoped that we would never have to go through something like that again but most clubs face similar dilemmas. From time to time I grew up a fan. Say Louis Cardinals. My favorite player was Stan. Musial my heart would have been broken. If Stan the man had ever been traded for any reason he won four world series emmys been by any definition of very successful reign as owner here right. Nobody likes him and I I guess it's his comportment. His demeanor is it's crazy. Though for me is how quickly this has changed because I was watching us in this weekend. And it was one of the one of the it was the Red Sox Yankees game and Okajima was pitching. They'd come back to get some like scored eight runs. Nessen was replayed when the Games and they they won. You're watching it replayed game from last year no. It wasn't last year as a couple years ago because I mean dice. Que was still on the team. Like there was running on Nessin this weekend. I one of the five minutes that I was able to sit down this weekend and watch. Tv It was. You're watching the how crazy fenway wasn't and the the excitement and I remember an old four and even an oh seven even almost like two two years ago how exciting it was at fenway and it seems like that has just completely vanished. It doesn't seem like it. It has completely vanished. They've fallen off the of cliff. But what was the triggering event? Was it the last world series that they want an eighteen like half ago But number things baseball is a baseball wide thing baseball. You know tendencies down ratings down. Baseball is dying for a number reasons. We don't have to go over them all again. But there's an arrogance to the red sox where they feel like they can roll the ball out and you know it's such a special place that lyric little bandbox people will show up. I think they're realizing now. Those days are over. Nobody's even showing up for spring training. Which is free right or the bus or the bus packing the trucks? Now that right right the truck day but It's weird how that that has changed so recently because the excitement of the red SOx was they're they're they're even getting snarky at John. Henry's at the at the high school paper at at Pootie high over there. The Boston Globe is Is turning nuts like you know wild dogs but they are getting snarky and skeptical. I believe Shaughnessy was there yesterday. And this is Pete. Aves a company may have by any definition today writing about this press conference and not given the Red Sox ownership management a whole lot of credit but he talks about You know for do go. He asks Same KENNEDY ABOUT ALEX. Do Go there. Troubled young new no. It's not that young. He's twenty three years old but we know he has a checkered history and he looks like let's be honest. Looks like kind of a punk? We're GONNA find out if if looks could be deceiving but WE'RE GONNA find out definitely giving them the benefit of that. I mean does he deserve the benefit? Not guys first of all the guys hurt. We'll see get healthy. Secondly we'll see if he can handle the pressure of replacing. Mookie Betts playing at Fenway Park playing in Boston. But we'll find out he said we did it. We did Kennedy said. We did an extremely high level of due diligence with MLB and the dodgers. We are comfortable with the decision. I had a chance to meet Alex person this morning and let him know that this organization is here to support him When Henry was asked if he could assure SOx fans that this is not a bridge year he deferred to Tom Warner and then added. Don't you think this would be a record payroll for a Bridgier Llano? They're not done yet but they can't explain and everybody's writing about it today Boston. They can't explain why they had include David price other than to dump salary. But here's my favorite part p Dave's Boston Globe beat guy absolute homer and this is a guy who was proud to wear the same kind of socks or same kind of sneakers. David price bragged about wearing the same sneaker. Just absolutely you attack. Red Sox player on twitter. He will attack you. He if they were a red sox uniform he has their back he says when I asked Steve President Sam Kennedy if there would be any consideration to rolling back ticket prices company man. Sam launched into a detailed lengthy and uncomfortable pitch to sell tickets quote. Come to fenway pack. Come to fenway park for nine dollars. We've affordable family options include food and beverage. It was like going to someone's house for dinner and having them whip out a line of tupperware trying to sell. That has got to hurt him. It's one thing for someone like me or Minahan or somebody to to attack you or turn on you but this this is Saint Pete Aves mocking him and use. You're telling me that he actually talked about ticket. Prices and food and beverage yesterday. Dave man can we hear from San Active consideration to ask? Yeah we we. We've taken a very consistent approach to over the last four or five years of a very modest ticket price increase in. I'm actually glad you brought it up because I mentioned Publicly the other day that we are facing behind in ticket sales. There's been a big focus on affordability And there's actually a misconception Still in the market that Tickets are available that every single game park is sold out That's not the case. There are tickets available For for our games in April and May For Tier Five Games in terms of our pricing schedule. Sixty percent of those tickets are priced at under forty dollars. We have tickets for students. College Kids High School Kids Middle School kids for every single game at nine dollars. So come to fenway park for nine dollars. You make standing room tickets. You may get fuel boxes. Loge box seats Have Affordable family options ninety four which includes four. Tickets includes food and beverage? Whole Chamois guy sickness date. Mike Lindell your pillow right. This is the state of the team address. They whatever years supposed to talk about their optimistic. There's new season new players. Oh were excited to see Alex for Dugo In a in a red SOx uniform Excited to see Kevin poole are instead. It's affordable family options for ninety nine dollars including food and beverage. I like it was ready for that. Grant WAY TASTY BEVERAGE. Get everyone to have family options. Ninety nine dollars for a family of looking. He's doing this in front of all. The assembled media is the owner sitting next to him. When he's doing this ad read offer undertake right there? That is the face of desperation. Well do you think this dourness is avoid have well they have an idea that you know? Obviously the decision from Major League. Baseball is coming down as to what they questioned. And do you think that they're just trying to because that is that's uplifting tried to get no not unless you're hoping to get a family package for ninety nine dollars then you're pretty excite yup a man. What kind of food and beverage damn to get popcorn or do you just to get a hot dog? You get one of those ice creams. Come in the little helmet. Tell us more sandy phone. I've had I've had could tom at fenway. But I've gotten free tickets so that was fun you have. You have quite free. But they're really affordable. Now Erin here bucks. I got the first row right behind the DUGOUT. It's a good question in two weeks or thereabouts. Rob Manfred promising. The result red verdict on your Boston Red Sox. We have seen what happened in the aftermath of the verdict about the Astros. The Astros got rid of managing the gentleman's you. That was it. Nope players faced punishment. They got immunity if they came clean. That is not sit. Well for With the other players every day some other player comes out and says this is wrong. This is outrageous. These guys should be punished yesterday. It was Mike Trout. Who NEVER SAYS ANYTHING? Trout the best player of his generation up. Maybe the best player of all time said this is a joke. These guys should be punished and he made a made a pretty good observation. He said if I knew it was coming what pitch was coming. That'd be pretty sweet. This guy doesn't know what pitch is coming in his head and shoulders of everyone else in the game. While just turn or even comments about the commissioner saying the only thing that's terrible about this this piece of metal is at the. Commissioner's name is on it. Now that commissioner said there will be no asterisk. It's just a piece of metal. The trophy like they asked would be given to the dodgers or taken away or voided and they said the problem with the trophy is. The Commissioner's name is on it. While the issue that you get your players are having the the the MLB. Pa is one of the best unions in country. If not the best so there was no way any of these players were door. GonNa take any sort of responsibility and get and stand up and say anything. Mlp was just not going to let them do it. But the commissioner could have punished players could have participated in this. He could have given him a month or a fine but he chose not to but they. But you're right but the difference is the union obviously is very strong and it was very strong during the steroid era. That's why they took years decades for them to implement testing because a union fought tooth and nail and used to drive me nuts because the clean players would never speak out. Schilling was a rare instance. He spoke out but then he kinda turtled in front of Congress and said he knew nothing guys like Tom. Glavine and Greg Maddux complained even though they knew they were pitching to steroid freaks. Right at bug me. And the reason they didn't is because they stayed in the Union they were convinced it was drilled into their head that this is a union thing where Brotherhood was sticking together. No matter we're not doing that now mute. They're not that it's turning on the Astros and they're gonna hit the Astros and they're going to retaliate and you made a great great question. What if they come down just as hard on? The Red Sox had the same mastermind. They had Alex Cora Right. What if we find out they were doing the same thing and the same punishment comes down? They kicked pour out of the game. That kicked a brusque nothing matters say. Dubrovsky was not instrumental in this safe. Sam Kennedy say kick him out for year or five years say they punish the team. You know half a million bucks or what was the fine for the Astros? Five million five million. What if it's the same thing they said they would just as culpable just as guilty? Then all the attention all the rat that has focused the astros. Now that all turns to Boston. And it's GonNa come tenfold because just think about like it's Boston market and the people and the fan base that around the country and how it's viewed by other town Other cities that you know the arrogance of the TITLETOWN cheaters cheaters. It's going to be brutal. May beautiful by the way. Because that's what that's Henry's arrogance too is. He thinks the red sox are above all this. You Know Baseball's dying but don't aren't you kind of like it's he's above everything kinda curious is that like even when the Astros stuff was going down even though there was no judgment You know it's the there was still videos and still people going. I haven't seen anything or heard anything. About what the Red Sox did and this you know you know how they video if you know what I mean like how you would think they would look at videos of altuve. Aa and and and they would have the sound bites of the Of the of the garbage can bang. You haven't heard anything like that and I'm why ready to be if it were in. Houston they won. A world series core was the mastermind. He was at the controls he came to Boston. Why would he do anything differently? Well I I want to know what it is. I want to know what they did. I don't I don't even have an idea of what they did. I mean we know. How did they do it? I want to know how the system worked I. What if it's worse? I mean I know last year probably not the case. I mean I I will. I will laugh at them but it is. But what if it's worse would if they're using bussers would've it's more elaborate. What are there more players involved with their more people involved? What do we? What if? Mookie Betts is one of the biggest perpetrators because of it and the dodgers are threatening to retaliate against the Astros. He's a dodger now when they're going to do it right. Well they need to be. What's he gonNA do when they throw it the Astros and there's a fight China's Theon? Yeah that's going to be so over under I saw. Was it ninety eight and a half on how many astros players get hit this year by pitch that right. I think I think there's something out there you can bet on. I would say hammer the hammer the two we are going to be at least half of those because they really benefited in there. Really kind of arrogant. I think Bregman gets more. Because he was one of the guys that was out there and very cocky and he's got he's one of those guys that he drew the attention to himself and he was the guy that was in front of the media. Say and cure all one hundred percent right mute. What if all that attention is turned to Boston it? Could we think it's bad now? They're begging for people to I ninety nine packages and you know they're telling people you know we're really not that popular people think were popular but we're not so pleased by tickets that organization if it suddenly gets exposed as a cheater and the world series they won two years ago. He's not legit. It could get hollow uglier than how bad is it. Spiral done fast. This is going to get ugly. Maybe that's why they're trimming payroll because of that whole they know what's something's coming down and it's going to be back Ten and a half to six and a half this year really hit by pitch over over go with over to the All star break. These guys are just two or three guys like outspoken guys. It's a lots of guys who feel like they got cheated at think about. It's not just the dodgers they they want a lot of games and the Yankees Yankees fans. They won they won the division. They won their league. Who is with the unions and one of the first guys was out on this many years ago saying. There's just way too much coincidence. That these guys are sitting on pitches. They shouldn't be hitting in like two thousand sixteen two thousand seventeen. Maybe maybe maybe seventeen. But it's going to be fascinating Let's see this coming down. I mean Manfred. Spin kind of vague. But I'm guessing within two weeks Miller. Spring Training has red sox at trying to get people back on on the bandwagon. Or Ron Reynecke. This idea what he was eyeballs. He was the bench coach. I know but he's the one that's gotta deal with. He's the hell. Yeah I know. But he's the one that's gotta sit there in front of the microphone. Answer every one of these questions to rest of the year. Or as long as the Amana. Maybe Sam Kennedy will sit next to him and talk about all those wonderful family packages. You know to try to take the heat off. But I don't want to get to before we go mute. I gotta get. You'RE GONNA go around the room and find out who believes myles Garrett and soon as I do the final here all right. I'm you think about that. You think about that. I know your your quarterback. You tend to side with the quarterbacks but you know there's two sides to the story I'm a Cleveland Guy Miles myles Garrett versus Mason Rudolph and Mike Tomlin. 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You know what are the Patriots GonNa do? The Patriots are knock it a bit against themselves. I think they're going to wait to see what everybody else offers. It's over. It wasn't money this to you when it was mookie. Betts explain it to you again one month one month from today. He's a free agent One month from today. It is the end of the Brady era knowing one month today. He's gone he's going free agency and he's GonNa get overwhelmed by two or three or four or five teams and he's going to have a choice and the Patriots going to say farewell. It's been fun. They're not going to overwhelm him. They're not going to overpay them. This is all part of the plan. I'm with in fact I think I said at first. I think my friend Christian for is stowed. Sulfur me. This has always been the plan. They gave free agency because it would be easier to to part ways. No one to know one has to trade the legend. No one has to cut the legend. They just let him walk away. Everybody's happy so you can take that to the bank. Okay I mean I did. See that. Oakland's it goes to Dallas you. Yeah I mean I heard Oakland's going to go to thirty six hours every Chiro senior but You know there's a couple like Aj. Green and Amari Cooper are too nice. Whiteout free agents you know. Aj Green missed all last year with an ankle injury but the two opportunities to sign some some veteran talent there at the home of the Patriots. If they wanted to do that as show their commitment to Tom Brady Or even to want to built you to want to. He's ready to move on. He's going to draft. A quarterback is going to sign. A quarterback is going to work with. Jared stood him. They'RE GONNA three quarterback next year. None with the number twelve none the name thom ab but it's interesting. What is interesting to see? Is that Adam? Schefter reporting that The cowboys are going to Franchise Dak Prescott and you could still trade him. Still trade them And that hasn't happened yet. Put I I still want. I just want the Dallas was to kick the tires on Brady and want them. I want a picture of Brady and Jerry Jones. Having dinner and Dr- you know Jerry Jones pounding Johnny Walker Blue and then they go out some club and the girls are all over them. I want to see that where he's just shown him a good time getting everyone. You mentioned the detention. Brady's GonNa do like reagents toured the force does. It'll be more felber mass. Were speculating on. Just love talking about but nine and they think that he would do like another facebook. Watch thing where he's meeting with all the teams they think they've seen. He's sold his free agency rights. Basically okay that's silly tune into two o'clock today at all right but Eight I I agree with Tom. Current is not going to be a big glamorous tour but that might be one or two visits and just say there to Dallas and Vegas. That'd be pretty Nice. And by the way we're just looking at the number of the money teams have under the CAP might pick Tampa Bay Bucks. Have the most in the in the league. They have the most spend on weapons and on Thom they have weapons already short offensive line Aleve. Oj Howard tight. End Tight tight end. They also wanted Tuni. Whatever it's going to be interesting one month today. Tom Brady says goodbye. And we'll be all over it this story. I find amazing because I I wonder at what point do. When do we reached the point where we tell people like Myles Garrett to just shut up nobody believes you wonder why do we even take his accusation? Seriously there's no proof. There's no evidence is not realistic. It's not believable myles Garrett who flipped out at the end of a game and and ripped the Helmet Mason Rudolph and hit him with it assaulted with it got suspended for the rest of the season. Obviously it was pretty egregious. It was a big deal. He lost his mind. He lost control now. To mitigate the damage he said Rudolph called him the N. Word immediately. Everyone knew he was lying. Everyone's still knows he's lying but somehow it becomes topic a on. Espn people like Mike Freeman are saying. I believe him and Chris Carlin. You know that that Butterball that replaced Mike Francesa with another station. He says I absolutely believe him. Whatever it is to have. What reason do you have to believe him? While the thing that I'm puzzled on this and I remember watching The game and the highlights after new as it was actually a big win for the browns when they did. It's Thursday night and you know myles Garrett is is known he's he's a very talented physically talented player but he's also known to. He's he's a little different meaning. That like football is in his life. He does a lot of other work and and a lot other interests in life and this was a surprising snap for him. But like just like you said like you see it. What makes these guys snap at that moment? What is the trigger that made him know? You're in the middle of the moment open now very emotional granted the fact that Mason Rudolph was having truly one of the most horrific games a quarterback at half right and he he may have been frustrated and something may have set. Maybe something was missed her. Do you think. But I just I from what I've read and known about myles Garrett and followed his career in Cleveland. He's not that type of guy so it's something had to trade so whatever. Yeah but you you see the players that are protecting Muradov and fighting Pouncey right I mean you gotta you gotTa love at those guys said it. But John Dorsey the former Brown. Gm said that. Some questions to your. The football guy helped me with this one. What colors POUNCEY He's black. He's black best friends with with Aaron Hernandez is it Marcus. It's the one that Aaron Hernandez the guy you coach your man. Keep them away from me. Which pouncey is it again? Mark Mark Morris or Marquees. They're both they're both of them are very kice is there. He's the first man or one of the first men to the rescue Mason Rudolph He would have heard Such a slur do you think if you're Mason Rudolph Eh you would use that slur in front of Pouncey even if you've used in a regular basis and be would you if you're bouncing you heard it. Would you denied you? Would you have us back? Would you have a problem with it? I just tough time thinking. Anyone can clearly recollect or hear what happens in that split second. I think everyone everyone word. You're a black guy like what what I'm saying that policy and a guy your teammate. A quarterback who by the way stinks. It's using that word in front of you and you have no problem with it. No problem with my my issue is that this year we have the benefit of watching the highlights and is going super slow motion. I think of the emotions of all that that everything that happened whether I think Rudolph said something to him. I don't necessarily think he said the racist terms of course but may be Garret hurt. It felt heard it. Maybe Rudolph said it and didn't feel he set it. When you're in that heat of the moment stuff comes out of your mouth said the N. Were didn't think he said man you sound like I'm just saying I've been in the heat of the moment where you're on the bottle. I've never I've never said that It's it's ridiculous just like it was ridiculous when Marcus smart set a fan said when he went into the crowd later admitted he made it up just like it was ridiculous when Adam Jones said a fan yelled at them. People are afraid to call these guys out there frayed to express any skepticism. That doesn't add up. That doesn't make sense. I don't believe Adam Jones. I didn't believe Marcus Smart and Jones was was different situation right when you're much much rasp believable. Right when you're game. Mason Rudolph was. I'm definitely GONNA say frustrated. Because he played terribly national televised game. He was awful. He's getting sacked to add insult to injury. Every person said I don't know what but myles Garrett hurt it and every other person there had for some reason had myles Garrett Mason Rolls Back said. Oh no I didn't hear they heard it your tonight. I. I don't know. I seem believable. To you. Mute guy a teammate. Like pouncer these other guys. There was a whole bunch of teammate. And the scrum heard it and denied it just because they want to defend their their teammate. And and by the way Mike Tana didn't hear it but if you just if you just watch it and you see there's a moment where to just Rudolf Garrett and it could have been set but something happened to Garrett where he freaked out and he ripped that thing off and did something that was unlike anything he's done before right and in order to explain it away when you say he said the N. Word. You have certain people who will support you no matter what and will cut you slack. We'll say I understand why you if that I don't like I don't like doing that because of that to get better off saying nothing. What did what did Mike. Tomlin have to say what he's consistently said throughout this entire ordeal that he did not and would not say what was said that he said and he's been extremely consistent from days zero in that position. How much culpability do you believe belongs on the shoulders of Mason Rudolph foot hits taking place last November fourteenth? To begin with I I struggle with that to be honest with you man. It's been a lot of negativity around Mason Rudolph. He got fined fifty thousand dollars for essentially getting beat up. You know. His reputation has been tarnished because of the allegations. None of which was founded He was a quarterback in the circumstances at the end of the football game obviously he was an active participant in the altercation. But a lot of the things that are gone all beyond that I struggle with true you get fined fifty grand for getting beaten up and get hit in the head with his own helmet while you also watch the scrum that he does kind of you know he does kind of. I don't want to say instigated browns fan zone where you are now. I'm just saying I'm just trying from from both sides of it. I'm just trying to see if there is no reason silo. Garrett should ever rip a helmet often at some guys the league and the League and the team steals didn't investigation. They both did their investigation. Now Mike Freeman Owl's bleacher pork. Say there was a cover up or you know they had Evidence they just didn't reveal it. I think they talked everybody. Involved they realized Myles Garrett just like the puts the reason he swung the helmet emotion Ashton heat of the moment. There's excuse for what he did. Well there is this one if someone culture the N. Word and he knows it so he can make that up out of FAMER AND PEOPLE. Some people will say you know now. I understand why he did while we all know this is that we're seeing these things happen before on. The football field guys have swung helmets back in the day and have done this stuff. I do think that the fact that this whole thing was enhanced because of the stage who was the Thursday night game it was the only game on. I do think it would have been an issue if it was a Sunday. One o'clock game where it was one of many. But I don't I think it's definitely was enhanced because there's nothing to do with that. It was a Sunday night game the Thursday night game so because it was the only game on. Tv It's got to overran. You ever seen a defensive lineman defensive player beat a quarterback with the quarterbacks own helmet. I have never seen guys with throw helmets at each other Sunday game. I think early repealment forgotten just fired. It like always on the field chef. I've seen how much ripped off guys don't kick the throne. Albert Ainsworth pulled the helmet and then stopped his bare head with his cleats. He got one game for that but then I believe after what he said he called me. The N were never once. Oh that's okay then. That's fine you're cool. What good what goes just not. It's not up. They will always believe it. Someone as gullible as Mu will will. I don't think so along those lines but what I do think is that through all this Mike. Tomlin just proves again why. He's such a great coach for for his ability to stand in front of get his players. Act Two words to two letters described as a great coach. Ab Ab. Yeah that guy for nine years and yeah and you never knew that he was completely insane. I never knew exactly. He led the league and catches like three times. He's a superstar. 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Terence Crawford: Canelos Avoided Charlo and AndradeBlack Fighters Give Him Most PROBLEMS

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Terence Crawford: Canelos Avoided Charlo and AndradeBlack Fighters Give Him Most PROBLEMS

"Acids intended for mature audiences. The views and opinions expressed are those of the panelists and reflect. Anyway those are the podcast partners. Sponsors or affiliates enjoy this is michael buffer and you're listening to the voice of the people the. Let's get ready for boxing every day. I'm hustling hustle. Hustle impossible hustle and bustle impossible puzzle. Community this league. You sandy patty. What what what up. Welcome back ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to another edition of the box voice. Radio news tuesday march twenty third seven pm eastern four. Pm on the west coast and it is six pm central time. We're talking canelo alvarez. Being accused of avoiding the african american fighting the african american fighter. That is what terence crawford is saying. But i think if we dive in a little bit deeper. He's being a little more specific than that. And i quote. He shied away from jamaal charles and andrew for a long time when you look at cannella career. It's like he shied away. From the black fighters. I think the black fighters give him the most problems. I'm gonna just say from the door. I think maybe this partially true Definitely not true in its entirety to say that he's shied away from the black fighter throughout his career that's a complete fabrication and in fact he's fought so many black fighters that it just. It just makes terence crawford look like a bit bitter hater Upset that maybe. He's not in the position of cannella But when he's talking specifically to jamaal charles. Oh and about dimitri sandra now that maybe it's a little closer to home for some of the canal detractors in the android and charl fans but this is what we're going to be talking about the fact that terence bud crawford arguably number three on the pound for pound this is saying that arguably number one on the pound for pound list is afraid of jamaal charles or rather his words shied away from charleville and andre for a long time and then he says when you look at it it's like he shied away from black fighters think black friday give given the most prominent and look. Maybe if you aren't you know one of the guys that like are big on a. I don't know your background and ancestry and shit like that. Then maybe you don't consider laura of black fighter because you know you're like well. He's not black american. You know he's afro-cuban. And maybe you don't consider daniel jacobs a black friday because it's like. Oh well you know he's. He told him he talks too nice. And he's from fucking you know brooklyn so no. He's not black enough. You know maybe wasn't a black friday. Maybe he was rich to be considered black and he was green because he made all the money in boxing and he gave the green plan. I don't know but the fact that people were running with this statement when they watched the sport. It's it's quite interesting to see the power tarriff but crawford has over people but francis. I'm sorry i kept before while i was very long winded about a five minute introduction. What's up moore's house francis here. Let's do it was going on. How do we follow data man. You came in fired day. Man boomlet less caving the day by by your house whatever we live in how we live. We've laid out there. Tv land hope. Everybody's doing well as always before another one because without him none this be possible and yes. This does make turn seem just know this salty. I don't know about what though that's what's bothered that what what would what was it cynical. Just out of himself of his character who he doesn't normally do interviews and to say something like this is what's really get me right now. Well i mean he always doesn't interview aachen. Barrage shot out to arkham barack sweet sciences data. One got this exclusive with terence bug crawford really tearing up the internet As he said that cannella shied away from jamal charleston. Andre for a long time. And and i think that's the one part that i can agree on You know especially listening to jamaal charles interview this morning with brian customer. Last podcast and him saying well you know i was f before we can and then i moved up to sixty hour and i was at sixty with move up sixty. I'll be at sixty eight we can. And it's like damn. He really didn't get that fight for a long time. Everyone else kinda sorta did so. I mean i can see or give bud some sort of credence in his statement or at least partial partial statement. I could. I could give bug credit with the android but not charl. 'cause are we going to just not take in consideration the fact that he signed that huge design deal. I mean you know you know damn while Wasn't going to the zone and you know damn well Zone wars going to let them go to. Pvc truth is people are going to say. Moore's house is unfair for you to give carmelo pass. Just because he signed a zone because he wasn't fighting with disown when charlie was at fifty four or sixty. Maybe yep maybe sixty. I'm not sure so. That's count for that right. Because he was with golden boy he was known saying what he's doing and the opportunities were there for that fight to happen for the reason. You another way wasn't sony boswell. A heavyweight there was trying to fight. Yep five to forty forty four. Oh i gotta get the new heavyweights oni. So let me get those statistics. And we'll get them till you please contact me on instagram nasio or on patriot. And this way. I can be able to communicate which you i. I have someone in mind for you. I just need to be told his sister and dimensions. and then i can Forward that information to you but without a form of communication that can be done but thank you for the super chat. The says here to support either way. We appreciate the support. We talk box and we got some other super chests coming in. He chose the us a cash app which saves us thirty percent that you know youtube likes. They get us for i do that. I don't know why. I thought i thought your region and imaginary super channel discreet out looking hard and it was a cash superchargers. Lee shot up to tony man. Tony boswell listen. Count drago got the actual cash right here on youtube. Dot com forward slash. The box invoice where you could just go ahead and subscribe and help us get to a hundred and nine eighteen thousand one hundred and twenty. My birthday may thirty first. Telephone itself friend. I want no gifts. Just descriptions but count drago says mayweather jacob's ladder trout kerpen etc unless charl moves to super middleweight. He ain't duck anyone same with andrea. Cannella was done at one sixty. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah you know i forgot was one sixty. He fought two fights all the all. The fans are clamoring for list was a triple jifa. Exactly that's what i'm saying like charles was not the boogeyman demanded. Not all defense fell. That's not true. Meant challa was not the boogeyman. Ganapati was the boogeyman. Nadi was the one that had the slogan. Gimme my bell. Gimme my bell like now mexican style. He's not mexican. This is mexican style guys. You want show you want drama show just call and talks to fight public. Anti talked his way into it with abel sanchez. being the mexican trainer it was. You know it was. Maybe they maybe they thought he would imparted some of that mexican style onto him. I don't know whether thinking but you know what i mean. So he talked his way into that fight. I'm not sure that you know maybe challa would've done something like that early on charlotte. Maybe you've got to fight. I disagree man. The world was saying cannella was duck in gennady gluskin. He had all the belts at sixty he had be. Jacob says sixty wh-what charleoi did at sixty. We can agree when gennadi was fighting. Daniel jacobs says sixty. Who was charles facing when ganapati was facing Canal twice who was charles facing. Who was andrea fits. I don't even understand. And charles julian williams. He's facing those guys. Come so sitting here saying oh. He avoided charles and andrei right but he was busy. It looks like to me. He was busy with gennady right so so so avoided charleston andrea than than they would have charleston andrea been doing if canals. Avoid in them. What the hell are they doing right. Well somewhere in the chat just said a responding to the statement in the opening that Charles said he will go to zone. Full a one fight deal and But that was android. That wasn't a fight canal. They were talking about childers andrew. I don't even know if it's for andrew brecca's based off the interview you know he. He made it clear seven million. We get in that bro. That ain't enough bro. It's a unification. So i don't know and don't get me wrong if he really is touching seven million per you. Seven million ain't right for unification but let's not the gets. The female just took one point five two to to do a unification now he in a position of power. He got a career high paid day. You know what i'm saying. I just want people to remember the decisions you decide. The may you know you live by them. That's a fag. you'll let me jump in here. Real quick may Shot up to tony basel. Sorry for trying to make you a heavyweight you five eight one sixty five. My apologies I got it all wrong. Shot stick talks with the super chat. That said floyd trout jacobs. Laura kirkland out of fifty eight fights that's not a lot but was speaking facts. Were how many mexicans both for. How many ukrainians buff for like we just pick any nationality ethnicity and start saying if someone's in because they don't have what. How many do you need. Obviously at five and six which cannella was four isn't enough. How many is enough. How many is enough. Do you need to have work. Do you need to have to every five fighters or should it be one every other fighter to please you guys like. This is a ridiculous conversation man. The race card is. The car is chosen to us when there is no other argument. His resume k. Compared to that's the bottom fucking line. If canals avoid in black fighters were terraces avoiding elite fighters. I said can afford black. Fighters will terence's avoid an elite fighters kazeem fundamentally fighter yet. Ooh man shot by fuck as we talk here. We have a bunch of china. defend the bullshit. Like don't defend the bullshit could get in the ring and fight a number one in something a number one. That's something not. Hey can i be ios number ones. And not now. No dues the entitles. Nobody never heard of just like yata because if can nello charles because he was fighting liam who got a belt right and liam ain't nobody well. Then what the fuck is the difference. What the fuck is the dip. Because if canals avoiding you and he's fighting dudes with belts kalemie. Nobody liam nobody rocky. Ain't nobody jacobs saying good enough. Gennady really you ain't beat them. So then who is. Who is jamal and andrey destroying the got these dude stinking canelo duck in them or is it just because they simply out there and not facing. I'm lost i'm lois. We gotta kinda punch mississippi. Let's go ready. We start right now. I want to talk to morehouse first. Morales man i trade. Andreotti was on disowned. Before all of them he got a build it once. Sixty heating connecticut triple g. So what the fuck you. If charlie brings blackouts over there. He bought the getting. Do you sometimes people who don't know about race. The comics journal make no sits. Everybody knows andre did over there. It ain't no love for them to do. They want to fight. You can't make jim dukes fight. Nobody that they don't wanna fight. So yes you. When you become mandatory to laboratory all opinion don't matter regular mandatory. Earn your spot. opinion matters. don't matter money. Don't matter lincoln. Earn those every single person allowed to sell spot and listen to what i said. I said i can't understand where he's coming from with with char low not with andrey because android. Was there on zone. So i don't know what you yelling at me for. He misunderstood you. You know but you know he. Moore's house was making it clear that he agrees with terence about charter. Or rather not about charlie. Because you can't say someone's ducking someone from another. Yeah united saying he does feel you can claim the not a a little bit about the call cannella oscar. He said he does feel you can claim Canal is avoiding android. Who is on the same side of the street. Plus remember there's an article that Th they were acts canelo about andrzej where he was like. Oh andrea boring. Fighter and boring fighter is code for. He moves too much. He don't wanna stand and fight. That's all it means and tell them so. You know. I could see anybody like well. You know man. He avoided andre. But but the charles thing is just a little bit more difficult They will never really on the same size. what I guess maybe though maybe it was once upon a time that they were. I don't even know if there was once upon a time of day. We're on the same side light when canola golden boy and everybody was like one big happy family. But that bag dan you know fucking cannella. Final hoses seato. Lopez is of the world and and the fight the victim. Caesar so i know charles wasn't even on his mind and i doubt charles had a belt of baghdad because i remember when cannella that host a seato lopez pay per view that i think that's when chavez and and Sergio martinez the. Do's and a thomas and mack center same day. I don't know. I don't know but it's funny man. It's funny that that is is it me. Is it me or is it not ironic that we're having resume debate and crawford's involved in this like he should really be the last one saga. My anybody's fucking resume. I'm dead serious services crazy. That people like you know this is what happens. You know crawford. He mentioned the right name. So it's triggered certain people to become his fan for the day and and and you know jump on his statement but the truth. Is you know as a real boxing fan. You shouldn't be giving crawford a pass to talk about canellas really facing dudes and undisputed so many divisions. This dude is like fighting. Who exactly who is he in the. He got the right to say anyone's avoiding you. Avoid an earl. You don't wanna take thirty percent. You don't wanna take forty percent and you've got one belt thinking you deserve fifty percent when it was not. He said he didn't want to even ortiz. But listen when it was well. The warning fifty percent against aj the world claim he was avoiding the five. But it's it's terence wanting fifty percent against earl and he's not avoid in the meanwhile we're going to talk about pinella. This is just insane to me. No be super chapa. Mr j fuck all this. Do guy triggered man. He's lined up the fight. Unification that is scheduled. We got an arena. What we got an arena. We gotta we gotta broadcast. What is crawford got on the table. So now can supposed to say them. Yeah we ain't and nobody who got a belt unless they black well. He didn't tell us yet because apparently he was saying while he was muttering while he was on camera that he got bigger fish. You know he got bigger things to to take care of so don't need virgil or aero right now. He got bigger things. We don't know what that is but sosa charl only fight mexican so he don't get toll. He's avoiding he only be yo. I'm fine hymie cannella. only. I'm so lost with this topic. Citizens corny man on. They're not even in the weight class. You wanna fight him. Get your way up. Now get your weight up now. If you if your house you can't use that word. Yes yes. They signed to make a name for themselves. Then they know he was into wake let go see know. He just did a pay per view that allow people would say. It wasn't the greatest who are jamal. I may. I don't know. I think that was not the greatest but definitely not a complete fill like doing the math and not so based on what morehouse said that back then even though they were in the weight there were nobody but people can argue. Now that they're still kind of i mean i don't know what argument you go. Mate were all you can nello ducking to do one hundred and twenty thousand pay per views with his little brother on the undercard like yoyo sound sue stupid. I got us went up. I gotta stop anymore any for anybody that comes back and says oh what did liam bring to the table. The wbo and obviously so fifty thousand tickets. Guess much more than what earl did with more popular guy with mikey. So obviously leeann brought something. He brought more. Mikey brought as visa super chap mr j. d. j. duke forty he said fifteen fights since floyd only two are black. Okay and was angie allies again. Oh andrew gomez supercharge that says he is mad because has best win vs victor. Postal that being terence crawford. Yeah he ain't fight five ukrainian so he in ukrainians ma. Why why sermons duck in ukraine is the only one and why he's fighting why why ducking dues from zimbabwe. Only four one in dongo like this conversation is stupid like yo. Oh he only he had fifteen fights since may only four one mexican. Okay cool. Well since terence crawford right fought for vacant title with the law. May he fought to mexicans or is john molina mexican z. Mexican american. Because when andy was mexican title said he really he mexican american like dude fine the stupidest arguments so are they gonna say now. German lena's mexican. So that crawford had fought to two mexicans in a fucking ten year time span to win the argument. Was he mexican american. Like what the and this is the dumbest shit you know. Go back and look look at the boxer. Look at the boxer. I can go all the way down. I'm looking at all these fighters i could say. Maybe one fighter that you could swap in charl and that would be the rocky field everything else. All these other fights are bigger fights swap in charlotte. Unless he was gonna stay at sixty remember. He fought filled in the test. The weight at sixty eight because fulfilled. He fought filled in. Was it philbin. Jakup's then kovalyov so then now yet. Yeah then you just made my point and stronger than there is no fights you could swap shallow when the four bigger fights or the belts the bigger fights or for belts. Which what can chase. The only one you could've done is filled and filled in his the only one you could you know but it was. It was the the welcome into division. The not even the welcome in the zone like like the zone giving you a fucking. What was it like seventeen million dollar fight as a as a as a fucking yo. Please come fight for us type of shit man. I was shenault. Be steve munez says i love all the shows. As commission point it brings on all the haters. Shoutout to t. v. much love from california. what about a andrew gomez yep. I said that before. We're moving down the line cfc. Nope that's a new one. No that's the same one. That's a new one. Come on champa it. I it pete go to one mesto gotta call you out. You've already admitted past shows that. Would that would ask for the franchise. Charlie you set it out to all a major say. How long ago was the why you act like duck now as if that don't count secondly but second mexicans mexican stars. Their biggest losses are versus black fighters. Chavez condello look look dobri me look look at the biggest losses or gets black fighters can nello no different in follows a blueprint. Because he's a smart man could never with one thing. he's more hill. He ended about the do nothing that y'all wanna do tiktok to follow. The same path is delaware twice twice twice by sugar shane. He ain't going here. Black mambas biggest losses to mexican i. That's the same argument. That rivalry is dead. So i don't understand him saying that he's duck and black fighters when a mexican and black rivalry. That's been there forever and you know. He's gave us some big names. That are black. I can't really think of outside of charleston. Andrew which are the only two names that are left and took years to develop into names android arguably still is not a name with a hundred and five thousand instagram followers in a bunch of vacant titles Jump in here real quick. You finish your thought. I mean you've got me. Ause are cool so i i'm i'm really langham. Turn right now. i'm a little upset. You know what. I'm saying because you know we we talk about tan's crawford. Doing only sixty thousand seventy thousand eighty thousand ninety thousand pay per views and we have a lot of people out here. Who are having the bud crawford capon. They are super bud feds. But it's not showing up in numbers. They're not putting respect in his check. So i don't want him to do what they do to but to us this over three hundred in here right now. It is only sixty four thumbs up. It don't cost you know. Know you gotta do is just click the button. Just hit the button. We appreciate it. Thank you brand maurice. What a super chat. that says. I disagree with bud on the topic. But if a champion ain't qualified to have an opinion about another champion. Youtubers ain't qualified to decrease to g- teak any pros. Now he's got his rights his opinion but as a champion. It is disappointing that he has such a poor open and as the president of the butts anders. You have admitted that by saying you disagree with but on a topic. But he is reaching and trolling because of his own championship frustrations. You know he hasn't been able to do what he wants to do. You know so i. It's understand the book we got. Sean and yep go ahead you got it chauncey pearls would supercharge that says but the never ending. I test with that busted resume when we know if he's elite with that sea level resume when we know if he's elite without that sunday. When will we know right. Oh no no. I just wanted to. I wanted to emphasize that. I wanted to emphasize. He said the way he said. It's not like. I know you got the knowing there but like when when we go. No no listen. I'm just glad people coming out man and speaking the truth and going in on his resume like he got no fucking right like brandon. Got every right in his. I mean he got the right. Brandon is right brandon is. He's a champion he got the right to critique but like he needed the watch what he say man. You don't as the pot you don't call the kettle black man that you just don't you just don't especially not this like okay again right. The argument is he's fighting black fighters. But he ain't finding a black fighters we want so then sued. Bud is fighting mexican fighters not the mexican fighters. We want or ukrainian fight. As i didn't want post. Do you know what i'm saying. He find puerto rican designing. I didn't want my fucking the law may like what are we talking about he find cubans. I didn't want. I didn't fucking one gamboa's low as like stop playing in lyon for this dude man. We need to force this offer. Gotta get in the ring and swing. All of us are all of us saw. He needs to do the same for real for real man. We gotta stop letting them live man. We box in the says ness his feelings. He planned the cannella meet. Flew all in fun. Good brother hey. Call it what you want. But he's obviously tight. He's obviously tight like you. Tell me how that conversation right. How you being interviewed about you in a big earl spencer by in all of us in the conversation changes to what can nello doing how he doing with his career. When you're shit is the one at a standstill. You should one stall who you fighting again. You said you can't fight. Puerto cause us in negotiations with pat. What happened with that. Qatar was given how much we get so many passes. Br i don't understand why anyone else would be getting shit. They would be calling the cat king. You eat us. He don't wanna fight order. He don't wanna fight earl and you don't wanna fight virgil because he impact. Gal ain't nobody calling them. Macapa but ryan says he pack gallon tank. He's eliah while we believe him. When your like like why do they believe in when it's gonna fight back yard trip in. My mantra is getting that. I'm a flight thurman i'm gonna fight thurman ooh i'm a fight porter. Nah he goes bra. Manninen nine tripping man. Ko k- d k. d. d. Here we go man. Don't turn this into a bashing. Show come on shaking my head. Ej the supposed big fish the one that has been pushing crawford out saying i don't know why he here and saying seventy thirty eighty twenty. Whatever i just wish. I had the same energy when wilder was being given flat fees and seventy thirty. That energy. Wasn't there now all of a sudden. Ej gotta be the good brother. Nobody was fucking aj to be the big the good brother get the fuck out here man. Ej play big fish man. You earn chip position. Just like god nello and he and he and he sees you. That's why talks about you. Not about bud and that got buff. Furious i'm telling you see what p counterpunch times too. I got time today day off. I've got so so we go do the three greatest fighters in my opinion marquess chavez oscar de la. Hoya cannella will. I'm not gonna count him because he hasn't finished it. Marquess two losses to great black fighters fluid gympie brennan chavez. Everybody lost the personnel. That the draw. I do to beat him. Ricky rat frankie randall. Black do to beat him really. Why black dude dude. Only got seven losses. Three of them that came to black due out of the seven day asked you got about seven losses about four or five of them. Tend to black news. Trinidad mostly twice. Floyd this is nothing new. This is nothing new. If i was a businessman like this they got look. At analytics was good western. Was that true. I'm trying you gotta believe nothing. Holy nothing nothing. But i'm telling you if you'll partner failed and you'll partner failed and go partner. Fail you about the gorgeous. It makes total sense from much. He can especially if he's gonna make this month especially if you go make the same amount of money. I could occupy super credit man after without their fought. Them dudes will lose. He's scared went out and did that. Respect to never watch that lucrative like book there fuck. I'm not on ended up like asking. I'm not in this factual. Look up for yourself. When they built black santa they forget that he fought the baddest man on the planet. And floyd mayweather. When he was a baby and laura after floor he fought laura who was the baddest chloroform and give a shot. Laura who was undefeated. I'm just like well. He wasn't in the field because he got robbed on. Espn but they fired all three judges. That's never been done before. Or after that fight. Mayweather spanked de la hoya and wooded canal. Do he fought him. Stop with all this. Every fight is different man just because just because some mexican fighters lost the black vote is it doesn't mean that all mexicans are just gonna dot com is. The money's got to be right and if they be in position for bell before. When i wouldn't even bring up the do blue two weight classes in one way in like i don't even make sense man and paid. I think two hundred and fifty thousand worth of overweight money. Like you're going to bring that up. Bradley beat marquez. The right way and both of them fought marquez. Outside is way you know. That wasn't his natural weight. You know but it is what it is. listen. I don't get caught up in that man. I is more than colored. Me man is is so many. Boxing is international. Maybe years ago. I felt like that because it was harder to see. And you had to have all these illegal lanes but now with eastern europeans have been coming into the boxing over the last ten years And and really like victim. Postal for instance. Who was speaking of you know. He's ascended over the last ten years and made a name for himself in the gennady's of the world news six. And you know. I doubt garcia busy. Is he ukrainian but russia before them. Dude you persona goes mass. I don't understand this is is just crazy. Man not every like mexican and black or the two biggest minorities in the world so there is going to be more scenarios between mexicans and blacks than there is like ukrainians versus blacks or or ukrainians versus. Puerto ricans dominicans. For that matter who really aren't in boxing. Like that unanimity. But should man of a big carlo had the i b f that cable plant has. Are we really going to see. Say kendall would avoid them well. That's the million dollar question. Though i mean truth be told. You don't know moore's house at the end of the day see what he's right to me. That was some bullshit with charge. Low like irl worked his way up to mandatory position way to for his shot can nilo and fucking basile both took franchise status. That's pretty much stuck in at the low year much void in your fight. You know you gave them the bell. You took a trophy. And they both became champion because yeah chose not to fight him so you. Wouldn't he do what what remind me of the history. After kinetico took that franchise in that one fifty four. Would he do next nine. I wanted to before. He took the franchise at one sixty after beating and daniel jacobs then. Then he took a franchise when up for rocky no he took franchise after gennady fort rocky and then jacobs then live. I think right. That's how that's how i go. Yeah okay so. I wanted to tell you for look like i was Veer off a second there. But what i was actually doing. I said to message in the pre pro offers response to everybody's response to ask her right now. I was reading the threads below because he responded to everybody that had comment ninety percent of everybody was giving him shit and he was literally blow them off. Like i whatever i don't really care i'm scared of those guys that was. It was intriguing to me to read the his response is like wow a course man because no one is stupid but my man. I don't know who pay to be like yo he. He hasn't fought black fighters fifteen five since floyd in only four one do whatever the do pay say burnt. We still waiting on an elite fighter from the do the goddess talking about cannella. We're still waiting. We've been waiting like a few names of resume. Were black tubo. I leave that alone for another day. Oh yeah of course they ain't gonna give them credit for love more than the do and shit like that. It's like yours. May he got he. Got kirkland those black. Friday is listen. You get the second time man. He went to rocky fielding dan. Daniel jacobs dan cold love and then callum smith so you are correct. Crazy man is but i. I'm just shot. Man like yogi australian fighters. He only fought one. The only four one and now was like six years ago man when he gonna fight another australia i- so so tell you tell you but listen. I'm a report on it all. I do not mind chair from eggs bulldog. Boxing logics united box. Hold on. I'll tell you right now. What did you say. Boxing logics united. Hope he going for undisputed at one sixty pounds andrea had the wbz b. o. Belt and charles had other. That's obviously what is referring to do. Do dome so. What does the gennady have i. I'm so lost. Let me let me show you let me go. Let me go to canada because they trip right now trip right now. Let's see what happens. What bills did gennady have. When when canal they had to be and The wb eight. No it's the wb a wbz and the ib no but cannella wbz. Oh right it says wbz wb a i. B o an ibm own. And i yes. Yes right there yup. No don't maybe that was the first one. Let me check out the open. Nah not to say thank second one. Doesn't you know it's the first one did didn't billie joe have the wbo at that time until he popped dirty. And andre picked it up andrey got that for knocking. One day in the vacant That's all i'm saying you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna fight. You're going to stay at that that that weight class fight shiloh or go get that three hundred sixty five million. Th zone was going to give you. I mean come on everybody out there with a brain and the head would grab that bag. Yeah but that's kind of slimy. Though i understand you gotta get the bag but You know you know the game how the game works. You work your way up to position to get a shot at. You can't just turn your back on that. I mean it's it's i. It's of saying there's no honor amongst thieves. You understand. we don't. We're not trying to promote that in boxing. Even though we know it's a little bit of it there you want to be able to keep your word like the word. Is that if you're a champion and somebody worked themselves up to be a mandatory You try to work out a way to give them a shot at the title or vacate. What he did instead was to give him give him the the right to be the champion and i'm assuming get a boost in his pay because ninety percent of these boxing contracts. You'll get a bump in you pay soon become world champion. Yeah but then. He could've stayed. He could have made a way to fight him and nonetheless though and collect the money it big fish again that big bat he calling the shots. That's how i see it but you're bulldog our super chat That said charlotte. Oh was a mandatory. Just like yielded. Moore's and today you can avoid that. My he duck is no different than you know. The difference with the steelers like he chose to fight. Cfe mo for one bell and and you know it's the same shit they both chose different things texas more dogs so we got back. Yes i got it. I can get sad musically we've got this is a this is a message. You got any sad music because Donald banks would five dollars super chat. I hope i do justice near crawford. S at interview so it's not capping and bashing you this guy to get up feel not getting and the sad part is the people really believe that they are so. There's so much in denial. That that's what they'd rather believe. I'm saying what i'm saying. Because i can't get an interview. Not because he really hasn't fought an elite not because we would all be ecstatic if they announced puerto because he would finally be in a competitive fight at least sixty forty. I'm making this up. Because i'm some sorta hated that didn't get an interview that he's never been in a fifty fifty five. He's never been in canal shoes. Where canelo foregone noddy. And the world dot. Ganapati was going to beat him. He charles andrei all terrorists. Never been in that position not never they never took a fight with the odds against them right now. Right now ben. Evita's is that guy. Charlie and he's telling you know he don't got no belt bro. I'm really a fifty four bro. I can move back down bro like you do see my energies the same all the time. It don't matter who you are none of shit. The truth always going to get told man can never wasn't always my boy until he beat trial and the truth was always told on. Ya gotta stop cabin for these newsmen truth. Is that stop lying for your favorite fighter. Man for real i. B o medallion champion over forty club rocky with big nestor heavyweight. Ibm champion is that. I don't know who kept more but fans or can elephants laugh aloud. Mario duct me baltimore's ten. He like my stick fighting style for the most out of the sleek black fighters show y'all what we rep it says chavez beat the greatest slick fighter sweetpea trip and. Cyp says kinda punch numa weather. He didn't beat the militants all idiots. But secondly we're going gonna do this more house. This may not be the topic humanity. Kids you just trying to make the same like black dues delusional but anyway look at this. You said because some mexican fighters lost the black. Do whatever to the point. The best the best we can do is. We'll go back versus. Best roy jones floyd be half sugar ray leonard. Not heavyweights wait. Roy liberal author mexican never lost periods never lost to mexican litter never lost mexican greatest four mexican fighters all that losses to black dudes quiet. No nothing about this race as you make it cosstalk when it just be looked up and be talked about come see rob. Ps right as usual because i'm not afraid to look it up. You look it up. See what the out. Ray shit is crazy sending me man. It's accu morehouse boston. Chat with a super j would share. That says what does crawford's career have to do with the validity of his argument question. Mark you've spent a lot more time trying to discredit him than his argument. Brooke has that is how you discredit the argument. If you haven't achieve with the. That's what i learned my lesson. That's why i stopped calling people bums. That's why i don't tell interim champions they not champion such a dumb ass up. He has not done. What can the low has done. He has not fought the level of competition of he has been in a fifty fifty five. He has not faced any boogie man. People floyd would-be canelo them. They thought trump would be canal. He fought them they. Laura would be cannella. He fought him and they definitely talk. The nadi would beat him before them twice. You are aligarh and anyone with the way that you think is a liar and a hater because it is evident that this man has been in at least five fights where we thought he was going to lose. But we sit here talking about some dude. Who ain't never done that. Just gimme one fight where we think he going lose. Just put them in in one. Put them in fucking one man. Put them in one one fight where we going. Because he's a great man they're going to say because he's day great and that's a lie day again lying. They know he hasn't fought talk welterweight. They know that they know that. The one hundred and forty pound division did he allegedly dominated was not the one danny garcia dominated. It ain't about think terrence beats daniel terrence better than danny who the fuck for for better one forties. Don't lie to yourself. Victim wasn't no fucking better. One forty when he took step aside money like three fucking times back to back to back and forth on pbc cards. Every single time accepted the check. You fools don't know boxing man a lot doing shit. I'm sorry you to the real with. Search john the real super chetta says floyd never fail the drug test but missed weight after two years is what we talking about. Sounds like ness as captain. And i agree with you on bud. What are we talking about here. I heard his feelings. Because i said sign about fluids so now now now now. He talked him out drug testing. Because don't bring jug testing to insinuate anything about cannella when we all know about floyd's iv that we wanna magically forget fuck god on the biggest fight of his fucking career. The fight that he allegedly was ducking for seven years. You get in a therapeutic fucking. Iv come on bro. chew man. that's what money buys you man. The luxuries of fucking iv packages to to rehydrate. But you wanna talk about cannella. This what i'm saying. We magically forget certain shit fuck out here man kick rocks your another super chad from k. Dr seven nine eight nine. This just bud. Opinion on camello cannella said before bud has not fought. Anyone crawford has already been undisputed though can't go back now. Change who he beat for bells names not famous shaking my head Please please make sense. They would you mean so. If can say that anybody is is iran. For saying that i i mean i of course not wrong he. He's selling the same fucking truth. We've been talking about so then. Is it wrong for for for everybody to say that can has quote unquote duck like fighters. Everybody's entitled to his goose is good for the gander. That's what everybody inside of your own opinion. I just i just can't agree with cannella. Duck and black fighters when he's faced so many and he's faced so many you know what three out of the five black fighters that he's face people thought he was gonna lose to like he gets no credit for that. I guess because it was too long ago. You know to log ago. Yeah it was too long ago outta sight outta mind. Nisa major key box on the question. Are you saying that. Getting an iv illegal or what is in the iv potentially alleged. I'm pretty sure you receive in an iv the night of the fight or day before the fight is not part of the rules of boxing or the commission. I'd like to check that story broke. He got an exemption to do that. From my man in nevada google it. I'm sure it did. I'm sure is out there man. That was a pretty big story. Meant you know. i'm sure it's out there. But i'm sure people will also find an excuse. No it was okay. You know nevada said it was okay. It was okay the fuck you literally helping my men hydrate better than his opponent but it's also is getting you know he's getting an iv what what is the what is the threshold because there's no need no more to keep paraphrase in the google story. In the meantime get to that next supervisor. I gotcha i gotcha. I think that was the last one though no key. Dr thinking do you right. You ain't line. i got you i. It came through bussing here. We go Mr j duke. Forty with a two dollar supercharge saying boxing is the one sport that treat black people. Fair question mark liar. I'm not sure who that is directed to. But i'll read it one more time. Boxing is the one sport was right. There man there goes right. This shit is crazy. Chat you gotta you know mean. Did you hear that you want to just pass it. Let me see. Let me read it. Sometimes things need to be no problem. Who guy mister duke. Mr j duke forty and the blue they said boxing is the one sport treat black people fair liar then he said yes sarcastic statement but who said that. That's what i'm saying. Who is it pointed towards. I'm not sure either. Eric major key box in with five dollars super chassis. Sorry but but shar low duct jacobs and canal defeated him. Tell me another sob story. But it's starting to get hard for me to keep backing you shaking my head Are jones says. Stop lying for your favourite fight at twenty twenty one group would. Is that this. That emoji lay. I blowing hot steam emoji. Yeah that's like an accelerator bud. Ie out that's you that's you trae miller shutout the trae man doing so well in a fantasy pick him league. If you ain't on a fantasy pick league join patriot for as little as three bucks and show your true box knowledge. Then i might learn your name like trade because he gets right a lot. He says great show but he didn't. He has like five emojis with the mouth shut. The i don't know so does he really does. Yeah that's weird at one is Is he calls it his. It closing their mouth down logic. Boxing logic united but trout and laura are fights. Many thought can a- loss cool but he fought them and they're black and i'm glad you thought he lost which met people thought he was going to lose before he took them. That is my point. That is my point. Not only as he fought black fighters. He's fought the ones that you thought would beat them. So you know just say but Let's open up the phone lines. Let's do let's do. Let's give out some free phone calls. We're talking boxing. If you can call it that they got mad. See why peden intimidated. Moore's house not the speak anymore. Now thank you see why bullying moore's house saying some racist when you know he wasn't now you've got my man. He got the awkward face in the corner now. Easy way. he's what the hell do like. Ingraham bullied touchy. Cyp made at a touchy subjects You know i'm gonna sit here with my hands in my pockets. I keep unfolded. I don't put in your pipe. You heard what happened on my. I'm a pocket. Tom doing shit right now. Let me go out to the sponsors man. We ain't got you miss. did you get. You didn't get that one. Go ahead so we you know. You ought to sponsor shots all pages all our all our youtube members in all our callers everybody drops a five star review listens to the show his thumbs up all that greatness. If you told a friend that telephone telephone if you signed up the border wars highly man we rockin out with iraq it out with us and we appreciate you are so we are here us stars on itunes say well giving you stick for the kinetico me for can can pop them for the phenomenon sane meat and and not getting the proper suspension officially serving one nonetheless. Louis seasoning the proper suspension. But we don't bring them up because that was wild biggest name on his resume. Blood pressure blood pressure so we got to defend him so we don't let pressure medicine. Subscribe to youtube. Dot com slash. The boxing voice for the latest and greatest interviews with your favourite fighters. Let's go. let's go. Come on trippy man. Y'all stop being cheap man. Stop being cheap. How you going to be cheap with something that's free. Don't let that go over your head. You'll get them thumbs up mag also hit the subscribe button and the joined by causing and don't let that we also meant that was a jab and right hand right behind it your major key boxing with a super chat. You know what i'm saying before we get to the callers that says the iv is illegal because the form of administering it was approved like to one days after the fight was approved after favorite was super controversy. People like again mayweather one and he achieved greatness. We brush it under the carpet and just let it be. But you know what i mean. It's can nello. We gotta hate on him. What mayweather did know whatever man. That's that's normal embarks into get approved. Twenty one days after the fight it was such a scandal was crazy. Counterpart see why p. c. y. p. b. We don't hear you is this thing on. Who was that guy. That comedian used to say that this thing on aloe look hang up back in just not working low champion. It is not were cain. So how long should he have gotten who. I'd like to know for people who feel like the six months wasn't You know wasn't long enough. For the suspension for canelo getting popped for the meat What do you think is a fair time people in the chat but do you guys think is a fair to him. Six months is good. Six months is good for work for the suspension. That can allow apparently got for me. It was six months for six months. Correct or incorrect. I don't know man. Listen to what they what. Why does wider does remember. Why is the world anti doping agency vodka and the boxing commissions. Follow their standards. And what rules should they said. Cyp you back. Let me know we can okay for anybody. Who's fused when you when you get a first defense in boxing. A first offense if you cooperate they will reduce your statements to how long six months you cooperate. They will only give you six months instead of her year. If you cooperate so how tale it can get to stand six months. If he was cleared no behind closed doors he cooperated the hair follicle came much later but had nothing to do with his cooperation in six months suspension. Stop it re darker. Dominating guitarist should be repeated. The straight for yourself read. It's fun to middle c rocky up to be clear. He's responding to someone in the chat. Not because we didn't bring that up. He he had he has like dozens of the base in the chat while the live show goes on so we got another one from boxing logic. United who says ness big respect for you ever since you drill. The top rank president at the wbz convention on the franchise champ title. Keep it up. Peace and pugilists. Yea and that's why you see again people like to say you know the Lie but had that same energy for the seal and in connecticut did it. I said the same thing you know. So it is what it is makes necks who is naming terrible j. matt o. J. magazine other another bit of bitta call them bidder. All right we're going out to the coast guy though. What a gobble gobble. Yes we hear you this while you doing man. I ain't am good. Good sanso technically Like you were saying man. I don't necessarily feel like he avoid black fighters 'cause you Like you say. He fought some fires in the past. He expressed doing business world. You know what i'm saying in the future. So i don't think he avoided a black friday. Is i think if people like feel certain type of way about charl and andrei they should just started maybe state for the argument he duck known specifically and not necessarily leica all black fighters Thank you I do feel like maybe a mob charleston. That started who started. The trouble. Started that because i thought innovation the first show It was definitely been evita's. Because when i was in mexico i interviewed the father and he thought that that was always a good fight and then interview. Charlie like that's just started in mexico in october. Two thousand and nineteen. With what. I'm saying so i'll give people down. They're sanding. i'm saying that's how lucky no chin that's the that's the exact definition of duck in my friend. Which usually listen. Listen if you will fighter. And i'm a fighter right and i'd go around telling the media a fight between me and guy though was a good fight this was in two thousand nineteen like yeah i think if i will between me and charles the good fight then i go to charlie. I'm like oh. I don't know if you know. But benefited his father saying that would be a good fight at the time. Ben evita's wasn't wbz chin. So for charles. It was worth it. And he's like. Oh he champion norman We could do that. Fight if you wanna fi. But andre derail was anthony was right there. Anthony durrell was at the convention trying to get the rematch. So you know. He didn't really have that energy energy like that. Because i anthony is. They're trying to petition for that fight. You can't here's the fighting. Here's the key word that you just said. Though is you felt like you know what i'm saying. He said it was working for him or something like that. That's what i'm saying he say. Don't talk when tom brady and interrupt you once. I'm saying he did. He wouldn't fight that man he just said make sits for him. You know what i'm saying. He said he was going to be an eliminator. Like what is it gonna be. You know what i'm saying. I'm saying he's not just going up there to fight him so say oh shit we respect harlow because that was supposed to have never tanko koo koo koo so then. Cyp you know this is going to You know very you know. Like i guess immature but then see. Why can't say that. I then right right francis because that's the same excuse make it make it worth my while right yup right up and and that's the same definition. I'm using for being duct c. Y. p. consistently calls me out or called me out and i'm saying no so i am duck in him in his eyes. That's what he says in a check. No ness duck duck in me. So now what the fuck is the difference if bellavia is calling you out since two thousand fucking nineteen. How would ain't no duck gadgets. Love protecting your favorite fighter saw good but you have three minutes champion. Counterpunch want anymore. That i gave you some free smoke but now you choking on that that is just the truth you cannot. You cannot be called out by a guy for three years and say is not a duck. It's been three years bre. It's been three years like you. You got to get like at one point. We gotta assume he ducking is three years. A dude call calling you and you fight you fight and somebody's been saying they could beat you for three years man but saying that ain't no duct 'cause he's in the wrong division he basically telling this so is cool for charter say odem lou dudes moving up and i'm a beat dumb but it's not cool for ben evita's the call charter little when he beat him. I wish there wasn't no race man because everybody was just all the same color. save visiting. we probably won't have these basement because this absolutely no sense to me. No rod aid over the same exact thing and get away with it man. It's crazy. Didn't charles and his head coach last fight. The yielded fight during all the pre press said that charles fight to happen I believe it. I believe they said it. 'cause they will question about in in in his coach and an canal said yes at fight has to happen. I mean they've been saying that. If i got to happen especially recently You know but will it happen will it. That's that's the million dollar question. I think i think you'll find them at some point once he gets through this once a state division. Y'all are jones kinda punch for gado. What up let me find out. You're the same person i am say. I told you that before my bad. Yeah this is what i'm saying. Homie don't subscribe. You'll logic between you won't see. Why p because i never talked about two and see. Why pieces tonight never called. Does this is what i'm seeing. Charlie said. make your work as well. He never said that he wouldn't fight. You are they gotta do is make the fight make sense so i don't understand what the problem is like the fight being insensitive. He doesn't have about. what does he knows. He doesn't say what does he what is going to gain from. Y'all respect give respectful restored back. He going gain his respect back when he lose. Respect does happen bro when the do been calling since two thousand nine hundred thousand and you make excuses about vaccines one sixty four you know catchweight. I'm really fifty four pounds of bro. He ain't got no belt bro. It ain't worth it so he said so he said i wouldn't play going to be. That's the reason why he never said that. So he ducky how that's saying. They not done got he got off. But you hi-his duck in my friend. He's given yacht contradictions. So the guy's like ukiah defend him but then he gives guys like me ammunition right so he says to guys like you yo a i will fight them if they make it worth my while but he says that in interview he leads guys like me. No like ben. Evita's ain't gano belt. What i'm supposed to move up for. I'm the champion bro. I'm the champion. Your stupid. Want to move up brew. Manno talk to me about ben. Evita's man. When i was a champion he was embraces. Do i sound like energy of a. Do they wanna fight somebody they get to the end of the interview to find out but yeah i'll fight benefit as if they make it right. God those stop making excuses for your favorite fighter counterpunch. Ufp see why would you for one. You can't duck. Nobody's saying division and makes no sense at all get doesn't make this. But look though. I remember when my maintain up leo in everybody's containing four hundred twenty six pounded even though leo had the hudson and thirty town built that they were fighting for. He had already thought of what thirty he had a bill. Charles don't have no one sixty eight pound bill duck vide. Who's at up find funny. They're all your complained about the size of league. It takes advantage but all but then ever the event typical konczal which adds cookie jar enough snapping. You'll handle medical. Evidently he doesn't even know the argument. Man you gotta go watch. Maybe the interview with me and charles in october two thousand nineteen when i tell charl ben evita's and his father wants to fight him okay and i tell them you ain't got no other fight. I tell them in two thousand nineteen which are going to keep waiting for kanalelo is you're going to. I told him in two thousand nine hundred. Or you're gonna fi- andrei go. Listen to the interview so in the very same interview. I said this is a perfect for you to make your own lane. So ain't nobody telling. Charlie do nothing. He ain't got nothing so we try to offer him some things and when we offered to him in two thousand nine hundred eleven. Evita's words a champion pancakes. The problem is took twenty four months for him to start talking about something that we talked about. Twenty four months ago but about that yang. Say nothing about that now. He ain't got no bell when he had a belt wasn't his saying but he lost that bill but but but francis you remember this you remember this when benefit has lost that bell. I bet you. A lot of these same people came out the woodwork. Saying oh where was charles. Where was where was cannella. When benn evita's ed bill that bill out of some vitas bell he magically want that bell. Oh you want to fight vitas. What about follow. now ain't the same wash. it ain't too -sane you. Mother fuckers niagara falls man buffalo. What up up okay. With some francis was good Moore's house ness aiming so way. Which is what are you talking about. I'm sorry i got on the on the call you talking about chance. Carver's saying canelo avoided Android and black fighters give him most problems. Oh no i mean as for by friday's in the past. I mean i don't know i really don't write the race stuff. We start pending each other against each other. I just like boxing. You know You know knows prayers and over. We see would he do and one sixty eight. I don't know. I mean other than what you saying earlier. In the show like the flowers franchise and all that you know. That's the only thing i didn't like but you know i don't know i don't relate so jays like this you know 'cause i don't feel that tape away. Maybe i don't really think he is. He's a bad boy so we just have to sudi. Do i don't know. I don't know man all like come which i hate the man but they don't wanna make it about that the schools because canola love hook to the body to serious public service nas public service announcements woman yourself man whether you're on patriots on. Are you on youtube membership. You know what i'm saying. We appreciate you so very much. We thank you very much for joining everything that we got over here. Tv boers eleven. Watertown wisconsin june twelve. Get into bringing swank. Everybody going to be in the building. And you're not gonna wanna miss. We're going to have four to five hundred people indoor outdoor. You know what i'm saying we're gonna have tables. Have food or drinks have ring card girls. We're gonna probably have more house in the building. You know what i'm saying. He go- being the billion nonetheless. We got nasty. Know what i'm saying. A lot of people are going to be in the building. He's not gonna wanna miss this one. You're not gonna wanna miss this one. I'm a repeat again. You're not gonna wanna miss this one be. We're we'll be in the building. They will be livestreamed. All the fights all the events will yes. You will be caught on camera so dress up. Come out for you lady bringing whoever does come on by ticket have a great time. You know said we look forward to see. You watertown wisconsin. Yes i know but it's going to be a great time. Don't worry about that. Border wars eleven. Listen also get the thumbs. Up man is only hundred. Eighty-five get that number up up up helps you to know that saying appreciate what we're doing and why you had ness birthdays around the corner. We tried to get to that goal. Get the subscribe button. Jumping hit the bell icon. So you know that we in and bacon when we go live public servant public service announcement from the one and only francis you sir time zone to play with you bring in the mind loan. High yellow net. Can you hear me. You ever going on good show as usual back said a muscle. Pretend i don't necessarily agree with but on the statements. He's entitled to pay you. Though but in my opinion hit every year you could say this about black fighters black flag. You get everybody duck and everybody in this day and age boxing so k. just pinpoint another for. They are saying. And i was telling somebody i earlier today like boston has become one. Big jury we fantasize about al shit. And we we about this shit and then we wake up with nothing so I don't agree with but on the statement but he title his own to pay him. So that's all i really data say about a man. These motherfuckers duck. Not just canot know riders. But that's my call all right. All right We got some supercharge. The we get to riding a seven. Floyd was thirty. Seven cannella was the younger and bigger one hundred. That doesn't take away. From the fact that floyd was the favor people can allow will lose any still face them Are jones got his counterpunch. True sky her on says. Tell bene- vitas undisciplined. Come down a fight. Sure did we get see. Why pee on his counter punch that number seven number six did that. I got that one. Yes we got. We're going to coach. Myers what i could be wrong. You know what's going on main. Thank the honest man can probably got the best resume and boxing. Right now I dunno the trout fight man. I thought that was gonna be a tough fight for man. I thought trump was gonna beat him to be hundred honest Also thought laura's gonna beat him to be hundred percent on What about me whether you ain't pick may. Of course i did. what about. What about united unionized. Beat them I thought it was a fifty fifty five. What about anything jacobs. Who's going to beat them at that. I thought that was a fifty fifty five. Also thank you man. Thank you for being minus. Boxing fan and we just be boxing fans colors and races. None of that shit would matter man. That's me being honest. it's just not miss man. It's there's no that's not your opinion. That's what the general consensus staw in most of those fights men don't think can you say this real quick. I don't think charle is that slick black friday. I dunno i andre. The black sleep fighter. I don't see charles being in a black slick. I see andrade. And honestly i think another still beat charl anyway. But that's my car. I definitely as more slick. I think dry until until he beats the shit out liam williams cleanly right cleanly not sloppy isn't falling over. His punches isn't all widely he can't be slicking and fucking charleoi. Hell no did you see charleena. Derby shaneco five min- boy while he was just like amazing that he looked dealer. That was his best performance. Meant to me to me. That's me one of the best We're gonna go to who we got next got. I'm that guy. I'm the guy so you hate what you want to. When i say he was two weeks down its combat the hand in his only take part not as Big mac stand friday got to accept shot out. The king. nettle fell asleep. Woke up realize he's the face of boxing. Even though we fell to credit half article turn them months later at the clearly fail to drug tests. But now i really Charnel i wanna see. They've been evita as fight cello sitting on his as seen on his hands on twitter type in tweeden and got a lot of shit to save. Somebody calling it as i don shitty say and now he warned talk by week classes. I in a of In all this shit like that. I got on the losing cannella at this point and i got been evita as beaten. Shallow but canal donald. Duck this as some point and it seems like children will have the courage to get into rain and he don't want fighting the champions at one sixty two andreotti. Good the one that nobody knows. He's a bell. He don't wanna fight fleecy telling the truth man you know. Did you watch any a brand. Custer moore's now man you gotta watch you whole thing francis. I didn't get the whole thing watching him. Listen in that. Any brian custer. He takes the definition of a twin to a whole new meaning. I it really makes you understand. Those twins are connected like he literally is talking about andrei as he turns into djamil. Y'all got to watch it. He turns into jamila. He's like man you know. We spent money on training. Can you know we had a fight and news. I mean not me. My brother. And i'm like what the fuck he expressed that shit as if it was djamil and that's the problem. Right is like bro. Why are you holding so big of a grudge against Andrei for fucking up some negotiations because he chose to get a bigger check. The same ship people on canal for andrea. Don't get hate it. it was okay for andrea. Fuck up that charles fight and go get that disown money. I mean excuse me Roc nation money uh-huh we got some super coming. Oh yeah ooh. Ooh william haney with a super chess. You feel lopez. Is that gas bill. Not short for billy. I mean williams. You know building bills is bill robert. I dunno as bill shortfall robert l. Bobby sheriff robert. Bobby robert bobby. So i thought william william can't be will you be bill because william is like with bill. Yeah just like charles chuck. But that's another story. William haney says team lopez duct. Evan haney for the real undisputed that guy to be. Bill need same energy with teal as was loma. A duck is a duck devin haney versus everybody waits haney for the real undisputed bill that we already we already expressed. That wasn't a duck over here on the box. You can't you can't have the balls to fight the man and then when you beat the man be expected to jump into whatever it is that everybody else wants you to do you. You should be given that grace period. And he's getting. He's facing his mandatory. Which isn't considered a evan. Haney to a female You know ryan got like you know. Cambozola is none of them do so. No one is expecting him to lose this fight so it's considered an easier fight after going through the tough fight in loma after this fight. Then he should be negotiating for another tough fight similar to like what canal did when he fought ga neither a tough fight right and then he went and took on in easier fi but then he turned around and unify with daniel in a tough fight. That's how you do. It is not tough. Tough tough tough all the time. That's too tough to tough to go to tough tough like that. You don't think is going to be Wrapped up and busy with all these court battles coming on after this cambozola court battles remember. This is a one off thriller won the rights to promote this one fight he still contracting the obligated to top brain. Yeah but os talking about you know going going trying to get out of that contract. Listen he probably gonna contact canelo lawyer to think another will be back in six months and he was rocking and rolling after one hundred fifty days. Sound like that. My man was back rocking roller rio. Katya a super chat that says to kinda punch for j mag before you do that. Lv smuggled a super chat that says if andre can look good against liam williams he needs to ask for that unification with murata brings him closer to a big fight with charlotte and canal. Do you guys agree. Wins is liam williams fight unification with murata morada morada with top grant. Man and bob eddie. Right now win busy and nothing. Nothing about them playing nice in the media since that a purse bid go right after charl after this waves fight go right after eddie will spend that chair let me go to counterpunch to them for j matt hold on a second now. I'm about to say something but the thing is people go ahead. So don't go to go to jimmy. Carter jimmy j. shutout the katie. Dr remember them numbers I was saying man out to the face of boxing even though he fell to drug tests. And y'all make excuse would and saying he was cleared when he clearly set out in surges suspension. When you're guilty of something you gotta bring up something that flow was never charged with inspect lesion in all only so and speculating that it was illegal but when it was proven to be Not true you guys still using the argument My heated most. Smoke is for us shallow. The guy who find one six haven't done shit. We got the nerve to be sitting around here running around and talking about. He ain't got nobody fight no fight he being duct but whatever haney. Nah negative haney is being avoided. You are sitting at one six. Ain't doing shit inheriting your brother beef from over six seven years ago and don't want to get in the ring and fighting championship champions. I want sixty so been evita's don't make sense because ain't got no belt. You can fight the champion on friday and on dry to be your biggest win all you lose. What have you like. i'm sure you will. That's probably why you won't find them. I know dr that bring up. They get energy from a dry so that. Tell me a little deeper. I don't know if it's straight up. They really mad or just fear. And charlie never say you ain't got no one interview. When he oversee he wanted to fight and dry but he didn't got viewed as on his ass runnin. His mouth type and token shish break the man nick. He said today though he'd said today or yesterday on on. Brian custer like at the end again at the end is where he shows. You know like. Oh i want to fight this. Do this do this. Do i really want to this. Do but god bill at with bill. That guy did what to me saying for. The chad is saying the chad. Seen you know no haney got willie not as man like i don't see i'm move on real quick but they bring it up and it's like what i'm just looking at. What really. But that's what i'm saying. Everything is open for interpretation so if cannella stuck in you know Charle than than to some you know haney stuck in But we go into james on skype would do james james. You know i never. I never know. Should i saw your last name or not. You know what. I'm saying. I always don't come benitez school because i never know there's other james is out. It's like you know. I'm talking to you but what's wrong man. I'm good i'm good. I'm on the treadmill right now. But listen this good show but Yeah may how people going to say. That can duck in charleston. He does not a part of the plan right now. We're him to become undisputed went. Sixty eight charles. Not involved in the player. Shallow begley take advantage of that soft touch that he considered been evita's and probably get his ass whooped in that flight and just And just go ahead. Just go back to tweet tweet and again. I'm going to get back to my workout. Hey keep go work nece them. I actually bad work. I feel Fucking trying to take that compliment because he sent that supachai via cash apso. He even wants to get jerk for that man. He sent that longtime the first one was road under the roads. Undisputed doesn't include charleena which is true which is true. My man is set out to be undisputed sixty eight. Yep he got time to talk to nobody sixty and then he also says another one. That man bill bill to smart bill to smart. This told you francis. I'm coming form. That's what they shed. That ain't me the chancy yo. You know what. I'm saying that you're anyways. Yeah let's go with it. Say duck for tuna man. I said it you ready. Oh i brought it up. I'll stand on my ten. I'll stand on my ten. I'm cool with that. Gets out that you know. And then benitez came back on another one and said he said take the soft touch charles words or a soft touch charles words so yet but these. Let's see who's next we went to. Now it's up on brooklyn brooklyn brooklyn. What facet paula. Position like that. Then you know they'll get rid of boss show. Yeah we use four back force it. I'm a sake. Freedom brag man to man these black man peace tutor. Brachman listen to me. All these bribes to the chinese joint nominee which voted get dogs on the noodles to rise in guess messina window now the took with the duct shores. Maybe party talking football at the. Let's let's let. Let's get the fight swing. Nobody will give a fuck. What do for the day because if you will now black in a rice got. The token black may clear if he could narrow before he he kind of black the black. We'll be doing a yot not disservice to welcome the you ness out smith. Why are you talking about delia. White but another brace silly white perfecting me. Four days. Away home dose. Don't send me a bringing back bringing back real quick. I want to know when you get in the border. Wars man dot ca. You wanna get into border you. You bring up controversy to manage to get controversy. You want it schedule man you off to get it back me. You got so no rights staying this me. Don't be renewed fix present all of us to have a call. Everyone loves you. That's not hurt. Lou saying the fixes in little butthurt happens. Tbb family was going on ohio. Let me start araj. Little one crying. I don't want to interrupt the show I let me say this anti professional fighter. I don't care earl. Spins tariffs but crawford or any. We don't want charleena show of y'all wanna crown if y'all let s deter you incoming only shows fuck you will want to hear you know what i'm saying like that's some bitch shit like you don't wanna come because you've got issue with nest not coming on the show for you coming for the people who support you buy you'll pay per views. You'll member billy and all that other stuff you got nigga today mac going hard for but you'll wanna come on because a nasty but she'll trainer will come on and take off smoke dog so if y'all don't wanna come on the show because y'all agreement with nasa we want to hear with that being said i just think what bus obviously is corny. Because when you look at his resume one could question how many black fighters he has fought in. How many black fattest he has given paydays to and the reality is it. Sound like some heinous shit from tarrant crawford in regard to the black fire thing because bro you do not draw if you were making thirty two million to fight you. Think sean puerto would care about his twenty five percent. Mando you think earl would be trip and right now you were making that kind of money. No i said this months ago crawford is not a money fight. He's not a money. Draw is a legacy fight and that's cool. That's cool but like i. That was week on his part to comment on that win. Like you said you you calling the kettle black. You know what i'm saying. You don rocks so i. I think that was some some some corning. This and i don't even know where it came. But we've got bill haney on notice. You ain't thought a camera man. S very hold on. Hold on i gotta this for you. Suprachiasmatic jones straw man. That's and buy your own logic. You a duck laugher allowed. Yeah that's what i'm saying. Not by my logic by cyp's logic. I made that clear by ps logic. I'm bill was going on. Bill i mean francis. I'm ashamed you today. And i'm trying to support you know what i mean. I'm sitting in super chats. You know what i mean. Y'all question whether or not it's me support healthy you know we. We had to figure it out. Well list when you got the best fighter in the world skill for skill you know what i mean you can only you can say and hanging bursts everybody you know what i mean When we talk about tipping or lopez see now. I was which you mass. I'm trying to ride to shoot. Let me just say no when you just said you said the grace what you say what you said he has the he got that one fight grace period many for democracy man. Listen listen with the pandemic and what the peop- was paying for. You know what i'm saying. This money is hard jobs. You know what. I mean top around here telling these fighters getting dollars that you get some grace period. Use a duck talking about you. Want to wait a minute. Hold on these. Spiders isn't a one percent top. How many times did you two million dollars in one night you to me. This what percentile. Right they get a million dollars in one night. I would give buck if you got it. One night two nights three nights four. If you've got one time you better than ninety percent of the population and then you come on here and tell them that they need a grace period. You know grace period when you get and you and you should be happy. Turn your camera saw so they could see you win when i say this and it could see you better. You should be happy to see a female deal with the funky because now he raised your son's pay grade because now if i don't let me finish because you know i'm not lying. That is not worth what it was worth last month after. Te'o got paid all that money from trillo ain't worth the same no more. It costs more. It costs more. So he he. When you when you doing it and doing it for the people the money gonna come on. Come but that costs more now. Okay okay okay. Francis housing times as javier fortuna duck death and hanging when when when when the promoter came on here how many times people denied of fight. What how the phone talking about own. You don't say nuts now. Why wait you said wait. I on here. A rollout of i was trying to listen. I was trying to give calmly. I was sitting on the bed. And i was just sitting super chat or or whatever it is. I'm trying to donate right. I hear francis. And i hit with francis say but francis how many times have the people been denied the hardware fortuna and devin handy at least twice at least twice haiti's account no was not. Okay so what. I'm saying is this is. How many times has bill haney avoided to have earful tuna fe. Never one time. No one time you made a fifty thousand dollar bet. You said he was going to do everyday about again. That and then not certainly not as man one time i listen hold on hold on hold on when when he came on for tuna kenny moore and sampson came on had me and you already talked about the north like an egg. Heart was making absolutely but on this. Show you to- samson. I change it. We're gonna go to sam and well wait a minute. What you just said was a troop the first time the second time was alive. Because you just said you. Just say i'm just doing your words. You said the bill handy said he's gonna do everything this power to make an app but you also throw them. I could give you the mount the gamboa's guy. Listen i and i say if you fight him if the finds may we can give you the same amount if the fight could be made. And i'm gonna do everything in my power to make it happen right. Tried to make the fight. Happen to fight was already negotiated. Well wait a minute. Hold on okay. Somebody else had already generally well. Our fellow pole okay. Did you not agree. Did you not agree. How tune in worry lenora. It's the same. Kind of proponent lee over the opponent. Bill so bill bill he he's probably a better opponent like commercially list on paper again. He's a better opponent because he's a threesome champion asylum business one. Oh one this is one we want to keep the ship business and not personal right so. The fight was already negotiated. The good weather he came on and he said that he wants to fight. I said you know what ness a said this guy here. I'll do my best to try to make this thing happen right now. One eddie has given his work that he's going to work with coiling s. It was tomatoes tomatoes when it came to Hobby opportune right. I came back and said listen the better fight and chico. Guess what you said you said. Oh yeah that would be a better fighting. So i did. Lying sent him offer. You sent me to late. Not listen let me and also you also sent to number two f. cleanness who he said talked to manager right and his manager said talked. To bob and bobbie. I'm saying it's not happening. But he still hanging off haney saying he puts an offer listen. Listen don't matter what bob say. No matter what biotech offer in order to maybe bob. Listen no no no. No no no note. Bob said listen. This will bob said and he went on record as saying this is finished this fight here and come over as independent. We said this now. This is bobby. I'm talking we said. Why would we have to if every fight is being negotiated why we then have to go to another network while we have to come over there when you negotiate a so. Many fights negotiated corolla. You negotiate a ramirez. You negotiate it. I meet so many fights right so that. Let me know that bob. Arum doesn't have the confidence and putting their tippy mo- lopez or longer ching-kuo. Now that means that he has to go to bat ear. Because either told him what bobby said i told you what is claiming to say. Now you keep hearing from the fighter right because the fighter nose. Guess what he ain't to get put in there so he can say whatever you want to say but guess what. guess what. It was another good young brother whether dot call nephew of mine. The works with a good friend and mentor. J prints does over there. they'll said intercourse. Stevenson said come on down longer chico. Now john i say about that. So that's on the same side of the street. A duck is a duck man. We don't need to keep going back and forth so with all this other so let's get to the to the meat and potatoes you exit by by taking his disney. Not as it. I'm telling you shouldn't take right. You now force in ninety days later. Fight javier. So what you're gonna do. He'll say he ready. You'll take say ready. Which i do mad listening open. No no no no no not you not let me says. Only the question answer. I'm gonna answer. Are you not going petition. To marie and say marie show. He's the franchise shave. He wants to fight us before. Undisputed allow us to fight to you and we'll fight hobby and later. No we're going to. We're going to pick the money up. We're gonna go to the bank man. We be in this we in the czech castle. It is no problem. Listen what i'm telling. You is what i'm telling you what i'm telling you. This is this just like francis it. We were willing to fight happier for tuna for for less money than we pay right. So listen let me just say no. Let me just take right. But bob arum said bob arum said norris or hate the norris was opponent that fit the description of what he wanted and the tip molo lopez spy which we know. That could be bullshit right. He said when the opportunity came up he says. I'll have the opportunity. That's not a good fight us. Nobody that does approve nothing but bill. Why are you going off. A bob whereas promoter will do it matter. Were bob saying listen. I worked for. I worked for a promoter right. I work for promoter and deborah. Hanging the youngest promoter in the game right dish. It is business. I'm telling you the behind the scenes of the business. How did how the tuna cold from the number one position to the number two position this we go into circles. We've answered this question that the the question. It shooting s.'s. In ninety days after leading tonight. S by have you said something about cash and checks no no no absolutely now. So then what happens is when your money. He's already fresno ready article. He won on the after that. Cambozola we wont. We wont hoppy opportunate ninety days after on the table. What listen listen. that's what i'm saying. Is your your your trauma. Spin off right. No we won't. We won't have the toner if say you won't t o that we don't want hobby opportune. No now hold on way way way way we miss the haney mistakenly let me go. Let me explain this real quick. What it is is that with choosing the norris the position that you put yourself in. Is that your next fight after lenora is is a pickle because you have ninety days with have you for tuna and if a bigger fight comes in fema who said that he wants to fight you. You're in a pickle pickle. let me tell you why please do please. Do we tell you why because the same thing that the guy told you on there. Is it bob arum and tip him. A lopez want to beat a mandatory by being the franchise champion. They supersede everything. So harvey is going to step aside my move aside because franchise champ is activating his status. Which is okay okay. That's that's why that's why So so so so the first person that didn't the first person that didn't was was decided to the pound for pound guy guy. You were talking about Canal alvarez alvarez right could become the mandatory to to travel brothers at any given time right right and the wbz within say an interest of boxing a bigger fight is with charles trial and whoever whoever gives the interests of boxing the wbz well say that tipping lopez and devin is a bigger fight. Then devon anne and hobby tuna right. Was i question. Ask you sir. So in the event that that does happen the activation of a franchise status which turns into a mandatory immediately. When people say that you duck for tuna for the second time. How would you respond to that. No listen the thing is is happened is we cannot duck. we couldn't duck. He's number one. He's number one tip him a look how you're tuned. It's important part about. Boxing is when i heard you guys talking about losing your position and have sean quarter activate certain things and all the perks important part about businesses. We'll get to that number one spot you ll never. When you're number get called you never tried to make another another move. You go for the guts and the glory. I now when we were going for machiko moment go was the ace auburn. Chico hat the network at everything that eddie would have to bring over to him. Right when low machiko lost right. You don't have a fight date. He don't have nothing going on. Devon has today right so then we reached out to him. We reach out to eagles writing resolved to see a bob would be interested right. Anybody can send over on offer. But it's the is the person chaldean does the person who wants to negotiate. But now i'm saying if we can talk no but you you ask. Boxing fans as to be sensible. They asked to understand the stuff they want to hear it and they wanna be biz and then we act like we're fucking a fifth graders right even in the sense of in the sense of when we talk about. We're paying for the fights riders fans because i for the fights to as fans did we give fighters to say okay. You got a grace period right. You got a grace period to do certain things that once you become a champion. That what i learned in the business was is is is hard to get there and it's even harder to state here right so the port of being the champion and ask you for grace period. That's why people can kind of feel like judge. Judy you just you just put session of finally not as instead of your mandatory. We'll talk no no no no no no no no no only hold on hold on hold on are mandatory is ryan garcia and number two is idea but somehow lena is listen. No listen listen. Listen martin van story is y garcia. That's mandatory now. Can i jump in real quick. Now let me take me take now. They denied us. Oportunity palu campbell. They've denied us. The opportunity for low marchinko right. They denied us the opportunity for tipping lopez. Right so out of those times. Why can't we a lenora and you said even you say that that's the fights so you acts for donald bill. You'll put numb. Noah did so. Why do i have explain that. We fight javier fortuna ninety days from the tar by leading how did not as get ahead of fortuna at a tattoo shop. Let me take let me tell you. Let me tell you how. How because hobby opportunity. When he was in the number one position chose not to fight us based on whatever business that he tried to do And when when why chose not to fight us. we chose. We'll show a bill and say listen. Listen listen to this to this. When i talked to you and i told you that eddie has picked whore heyman monaro as and the network says that eight minority is a great opponent. I called you. And i talk to you about it right now. The only way the only way that. I don't know i get upset about shit is if morris is not the qualified opponent that we've been looking for but bill but none of to call the wbz and tell them letting because that's who the network is. A proven is having a hard time over the hump at all. it matters. We'll all all the everybody does pasha tuna. The opportunity is sitting in the position that he sydney because he didn't fight us now. He didn't fight us more than one time. So you're telling me you're telling me the wrong. I supposed to go hold on. Hold on hold on francis. You say that aren't supposed to dan. Complain that eddie as lenora. I'm i'm telling you use to do exactly what you're super says you're super chesa. Have that same energy you say bulldog bill lethal energy that you energy would be. Don't give him a fucking shot at all because he didn't give us. What would be the same energy monday. Possibly but you ceo. Possibly but i'm listening you know i'm a real. I'm a real one okay. I'm telling the gentleman nam. I'm telling them if you really wanted it. You would have got it then. There wouldn't have been devastating but hold up. Listen we're going handle our business with Hitting the norris. This zoo right emphasized that word business just like female doing business with no rules. No no yes yes yes yes yes. Let me tell you. Let me tell you this next unless you're talking about a fighter that's not one not two right not in not in not in the first position right in the in the second position right when he was in the first position in the first. Tom and bill does this. Come into position. Bet he gets it next because he so who own because no no no no. We're not no let me tell you is because the gentleman never stepped up he never stepped up. And let me tell you this. Let me tell you guys. Keep it real. When did they come out of the woodwork. Two months ago after the fight was already talked about. Maybe they ain't no yala's frigging doing business business. They suck listen. Don't build hold on hold on. Wait turn turn reminds you show back. You were supposed to call simpson back. I had to call. Amc no yes. Yes yes no. I was like yes our medical polls. A call sampson. What sam was supposed to do what he said was he was going to stop the fight right. Oh no no before that. This is what i'm say. Go number seven days after the fight with bill. Never let me bill that all talk talk three now you go. Do not say something you go you ask him. I'm asking him sampson. Called sampson called and sampson said going to stop the fight. He said he's gonna stop trying to know which way of some just going to be able to do it. we base. i told him seven days. I was going to do my best to try to make the fight happen right now and seven days i talked to you. You said you said what's going on. I said listen. It's a norris. Been bill say but do you know that. We talked about a completely different. Tom like before that is it was another time both was on the show right and he said listen. Bill i respect you. I wanna make the fight. Thank you you know. Call me days before that. Did he say we were on the show because he heard the norris fight was made no not for that day. That's what are you talking about. You never talked to him. I never talked to him. Before the lenora i talked to you. And then sampson came on no odd. Because he was talking to shit. Oh man no no no. We had a show where you and him was on a -gether and yeah negotiated. He said call me seven days so we can get it together for real separate pass and you're the cold each okay. Let me tell you this. I've never waited for none of jokers to get nothing together. I went to the wbz and said we wanna fight loma machiko. And we're not going nowhere. I've got listen also got into. Wbz tournament would hobby airport tune. Team locates saw ob to laugh right. We're going back. Let's go down the rabbit hole. Bill can i say everybody a bunch of time warner s. Can i save everybody. A bunch of time mr haney. Have you heard the recent comments from marie ceo suliman. No the recent comments from ratio suliman. Is that team haney. Antim- ryan garcia went to the w busey said. This fi cannot happen until we got attendance. So let's forget about launching go. Let's forget about four tuna haney Devon go take care go take caroline iras and then the next fight is ryan garcia. We got we got fans back. We are fans back to towards. I wanna let you won't bill to explain to me. And i'm very curious because i know he's he's very intelligent. You know what i'm saying. Oh gee i wanted to explain to me. How does that situation happened. Where when when sam said in seven days make the phone call. That didn't happen so you know. The fight was already negotiations and samson decided. We write a song. I'm going to write a soft letter. Then i'm going to read it hard letter because you know bill haney. Let me read why you why you didn't go off. He would solve a so. That's what that's why i tell you. Listen about this game right. If you ain't gonna go hard go home right. I did want to fight. He was writing letter right. He was speaking solve right even when it came down to it right. He's still negotiating for ninety days after so he didn't want to fight met. The norris is a great opponent and listen. I hate to even consider the act like we're looking over lenora. 'cause that guy is a tough guy. Yeah definitely looking over. How the no you you did. You did your best to try to make the fight happiness and and i did my best to adhere to your wishes de suba chan please. Somebody super bama boghetta super chair. Nine nine hundred supercharged says. Do you know you have a fight scheduled question mark. He do gotta feis went. Will you focus on that rather than fight. you can't get. I want to win. not bill cry no disrespect. Please eat food on your plate as commissioner notice and that was nine ninety nine that was well worth it because he's a hundred percent right and i do listen to you guys you know. I just love to show. I love what you guys are talking about. But there would be no devon haney if hobby opportune had faced him when he faced him and there would be no horley. Halen norris fight if tiffany molo -pez had really you know what i mean. Activated activated his franchise Mandatory or if he had even negotiated right. What a fight now when you talk about going to to purse bid and activating that that mandatory once you become mandatory right there would have been the same thing. Bill them say it's necessary It's not as fun. i'm yeah sounds. Like masses nashville. I love a love coming on the boxes. Boys i love the boxing voices fans and stuff. You know what i mean to hardcore. They're very knowledgeable. Knowledgeable people this is one spots stopped by you. See i was. I was listening. I was watching. But the thing about nazis that when it came time to do business right and one thing that ness told me i said this i said so what if despite popped up for hobby have the opportunity to divide ryan garcia right now. Do you fight. Governor ryan ness it. We would find. I said so. What about if he could fight. Tear fema lopez or devon. He will fight tippy. I said what shit you see what i'm saying right. What kind of fairness is this year because how the opportunity is a great fighter a name and all that it was a name that we could have handled the business inside the wbz tournament. He didn't wanna fight. It didn't want to fight him show box. He didn't wanna fight. When when you see the devon petition after shoulder surgery devon petition to fight him right and he didn't fight so then when all purposes we don't wanna fight right. He wasn't even on the table to fight. He'd never had shown interest to fight. When we started talking to horry. Lenora eddie did right then. Fortuna came out the woodwork. So what i was saying was was. It didn't really matter with the money right. It didn't really bad with the money because a lot more money defied him now than it was then so that supply the we would life but wasn't a fight that would give the same credibility norris would write. It wasn't something else for me to argue because it had already been negotiated right period. Ninety saying i picked gamboa's to listen this. Stop talking us. You gamble has paid in las vegas. I mean could we stop talking about is true. Boy from bama's right is like in las vegas. I sure i sure hope. But it's definitely mai is definitely a may twenty. He signed it twenty-first. Yes that's what. I'm hearing to twenty one here. The twenty first the end of may. But i'm not sure i heard two eddie said yes friday. But you've got but you've got Jose ramirez the fights the next day so that we can't be lit in vegas so it's on a friday. Okay saturday gold. And then jose ramirez him on saturday. How you feel about that friday. Yeah well we fight. You know what. I'm saying coming out of that. Great that great spike town of tijuana did what. I'm saying we fight anywhere. We're fighting bull ring. We're fight wherever you know what i'm saying. Whatever day of the week or whatever so that part of it wasn't no big deal but to be able to fight in las vegas right. That would be. That would be amazing. So as a promoter does devon get to put the undercard are we going to see darryl cunningham one of devon's fighters on the on the card or definitely definitely with with devon by by devon's deal. You know what i'm saying is is you know his partnership and he so young with not as much leverage as he has. Now you when you talk about a fight. Cannella cannella controls his whole entire undercard. You talk about anthony. Joshua he controls his whole entire undercard with devon. We have the ability to negotiate. So we'll have a couple of fighters on there. Maybe one fighter on television which would be derek cutting out and we have other guy marechal's oh he's made. Television is gonna televise this okay. I'm stuck by. If i dare cutting fights april third april third in atlanta. You know what. I mean on another Another dark show. But you know what i made the we. We're looking forward to him. You know atlanta soda christy martin car or do you not know i'm not a hundred percent sure i know it's just opportunity for him to you know. Stay sharp and go down there and getting more win. You know what i'm saying and and then come right back with and may So if not vegas because you haven't announced vegas. Is there like a second venue option. I hope. I hope it's where you're at miami. That's why i love a love. That miami joint man. That's nice you definitely just announced a tnc stadium for canelo Today actually right. Eddie announced island double check Was today was today find an. At and t. stadium and we talked about that like so. That wasn't an option. You ain't bring that up You like telling the box invoice listeners. Advice i give you ain't you ain't eddie about you know now under car getting on undercard cannella told you could mellowed. Controls his entire on debica. Axe willow can never might take lincoln song. Okay so when we talk when you talk about that then you talk about getting the kind of money that camello wants to pay you curse purge controls the whole budget so since you brought up money. Many he's a lot of youtube desire hidden making videos. San devon's being paid three million dollars to finally not as is there any truth to that next question. Is this thing bill. I mean i don't know 'cause people saying i mean can you put like lying on your son or telling the truth. I mean you know. 'cause three million dollars seems like a lot especially when wealth while see made us. He only reason only reason. The only reason. I'm address that ness addresses specifically at you because i've never addressed it before but i'm gonna dresses specifically at you because you said that it was. It was a lot of money you on saying. It might be too much money to make right. Oh you say that. I said that when. I said that i said on another show a did. Yeah you did. So what was he's he's making he's making he's making too much money to be fighting llaneras or one of them right. Yeah bring it up in comparison to task crawford crawford making three million because i thought it was more. Okay what what what what you what you got to understand. And business is that when devon did right. You'd never heard complain about money because we understand. We understand what we were going to be getting. And and what. The chances were we were taking right was one of the sought out out. You know what. I mean fighters one. He did to deal with with design. What eddie heart right and there were no. There were no other fighters pretty much. Like when i talked to. Eddie i'll tell we believed in him. Cannella wasn't there. You know what. I'm saying like The the the only fighter that i think was there. August jesse vargas. Dan jacobs you know what i'm saying right and and we were being told that we were being told by people that why are you going to fight on an app. Why you're going to get lost on an app. Salt and terms of being a promoter and debit devon has been has did a great job with raising his profile along along with aetna. What i'm saying. But he when he wrote his his deal with his deal was rolled out. It was rolled out that when he becomes a world champion. Whoever that champion may be and devon's on his third title defense right so that's what it is right and it was very important in business right with to become a world champion and have those title defenses so when they when he talked about freezing us out or talk about you thought about in the trash and it don't make a difference and all that other shit not when you sign up to get paid like a world champion. Sounds like it. Sounds like devon a bet on himself earlier on and now he's getting paid off now was get paid off on the matter who is signing bonus. We don't get no none of that right. We'd better ourselves that we were going to beat loma chink. Oh right we're going to beat up in the in the wbz. We're going to beat new cowan. Go beat whoever. It is right now. We bet on ourselves. We weren't protected right. We didn't have no handcuffs on us or that we were going to like take the easier around and then eddie you have to call us or any of that. We went into it as put us in with the best. And we're going to deliver. So do you think your profile has raised by. Obviously i mean w think his his profile has got him bigger. Not just money. I mean money is very important. But do you think more people know evan haney since signing to zone and you know doing all and stuff absolutely his wanted to how this Young fighters and box if not one of the hottest spiders and boxes especially here in north america and you notice devon's Damn near every show doom media putting his neck out there. Eeoc talkin is is that that's why that's why he's grown away is and that's why he's getting paid off even a some people don't think he should be getting this money for this type of fight. He put in that hard work. He showed up to all these events. And now he's he's he's reaping the benefits the green more fate as the promoter is paid as a promoter so he is paid as a promoter right and the fact that you know he doesn't get paid as a fighter he gets paid as a promoter right so that is a difference. I mean i was gonna say. Let's go back to the topics as you want. I want to get your thoughts on taras right. He feels like condello avoids. Black fighter specifically jamal and andrei jamaal charles. Oh dimitrius andrei. And he says he thinks that black fighters give canal the most problems leader. You know he's a good fighter. You know what i mean. And i think that that another good fighter is on dry. You know what i mean. I don't think that You know. I think that drive will give him the problems the style that he has right to atlanta system did he has right As far as the black and white thing right. I don't i don't go into that because the finally that i got. I have a fighter this willing to fight everybody. You know what i'm saying. We started out if you've ever seen shirts and our hats early on it was devastating. Verse everybody right so think about this. If you got it you got it if you don't you don't right and if you really got it then you can fight everybody right. You're not going to necessarily you know. Pick on despite it ain't gonna fight you then. Go pick on other fighter right. We we pick on everybody. You know what i'm saying. We will invite everybody in our division right. You've seen devon talk shit to to Robert eastern early on you. Talk shit to two eight hundred. You know what i'm saying and also you seem talk. Shoot the chink and antipathy lopez. You know what i mean. So we kind of like equal opportunity Shit but when you talk about the other guys the other fires right you talk about tank davis who's never fought a black guy bill. Be careful no. I'm just saying this is the truth. So we talked about tank we. We don't think we have no action adding the and so on that same token on that same token that's not fair right as as as brothers as young love. This guy is two. Oh dan -til comb my bad. My bad my commes african. come on man come on. we're going to split your homeless african. what. I'm talking about apple. You know what. I'm talking about somebody with that sauce yo. Y'all and this is why people say cannella aim for no black bodies is like your laura trout mayweather love more than the do fucking. Wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on but what i'm saying is though is we got to call it the way did it. Is you know what i'm saying. So i'm just. I'm just calling to where it is when you say when you said when you said richard coleman right when you talk about somebody here that's debts because when you talk about north american boxes right now talk about the latest that they have and then when you talk about british boxing you talk about a different style when you talk about mexican five as you talk about. You thought i hear what you're saying that that if you're gonna call semi slick black fighter komai is not that you had i get it. So that's what i'm saying is so when we talk about what's wrong with saying a cup. We can one minute. You can say a top mexican fighter right. He's a tough mexican fighter. But then you care say. He hasn't bought any slip black. Fives right so i just gave you an instance where tainted final slip black fighter but what what what tasks is talking about is slit. Blackbox makes. I don't want to you know what i'm saying. I'm just keeping one hundred where we're from the west coast on the west coast and fighting mexicans. Right that come forward. I've always said it. Builds you up meant it builds you up to be able to handle that pressure because mexicans are pressure pipes right slick them right over pinellas a little bit slick two he got some slick pressure with him and the thing about cannella is kinetico fights more like more like a brother He got sauce. Shit william so ago. No i i wanna go as soon as you said he was slick like a brother. Nascar tweet tweet. I don't see like why why why wasn't why. Cyp that motherfucker be cooked. Y'all got to give it to him. He'd be cooking. Because i didn't even know some that should that he came on he'd be wrong. Oh look at here. Shot right now. Oh tank you know who else just seven former. And that's the biggest black friday fourteen at that time. The biggest slickest black friday the fight they built it up. They seen each other in the mgm. They got into arguments like that. The fight the make and what they do. The chose eisai's should then when eddie offered them that fund you really think now do you really think. Do you really think that he got no. Do you think okay noto but we ought to put on a hans. Leo put on tuesday. I mean on on until he got knocked out may got better slip. The defense bills. He does not fear. You know what i'm saying. And i say when i say that seven right. Yeah yes he should. They should give him an opportunity. But that's what he's been doing is giving him an opportunity. But we did not think and god bless seven because two million for that and eddie was often take like six mil for that fight okay but then but then when it came back that they offer seven some money for that fight. What happened to turn it down. So i heard it was only two million. You can often two million for that big ass fight. That was gonna be a pay per view and he built that fight from the mud man. What but seven member. Whatever was he was. He was happy and he was saying. He's mr five hundred thousand. i'm i'm saying. But then he sought to zone he was making monka. So okay vendor. That's why i'm telling you. I'm telling you for fighters young fighters when it comes when it comes time to get that money whether it's to me what this five hundred and the biggest payday and you don't put your name in the hat. Sometimes some promoters and autumn networks to devote a sale by sale. Yeah so it said that He won't accept the two million dollars. Offer from davis however davis recently turned down a five million offer from mattress box into face farmer. Exactly like so habits. Who was trying to bring him to dissolve. It'll make no sense for seven to take two million on showtime but may when talking about two million for talking about two million or one point two for low machiko and all that she bro. You got to jump on this show. But it's a different network. Eddie's game was to bring devante davis zone to get is autism this. That's why i say is with with. Do you think he would the two million. Now clearly disowned name. Gotta do them all right he. I'm saying okay. But that's what i'm saying is do you think he would take the two million now. He absolutely is in a position where he needs a now. He needs a deal. Okay so here. Here's a here's how it went. It went so so devante said tank devante said to have you ever made two million and tevin said have you ever made five so both turned on arguably the biggest paydays i've ever gotten alleged. The as what seven eight nine yet. But if i was. If i had with bill vise intef i would have told him. Take two million. Take the two yom saying be all over. Take the two million. Hey you know what i mean. So we got some super tests for you. Know they come in for you man. Cyp coming to save and he said tell how the stop in devon see why pete man he was cooking and he said when he said that shit about about the black fighters don't when he said like who won and who. I didn't know all that shit though did you. You know. I glen and an it was crazy. Yeah but that is like not a big deal is probably won't listen because you know what because you give fighters equal opportunity grace period espe- especially when they beat the mazda sisley when they beat the monster that's why when that if he's upbeat be triple g and he fought rocky field. I it was okay with me. Okay but let me ask you though next. You said that. Law machiko devon so. We have a duck right. You beat you beat a duck and then you get a great but utah daughters today though you taught us today. It ain't really duck in business business. That works that you taught us. He's designated no. I did not say that it was business. What i said was that no less. What i said was that the guy had an opportunity to fight right. He had an opportunity fight. He chose to do something else. Right eddie her. We don't even that disguise interest in a fight. We don't even know the magnitude to what you're talking about because the last time that we could fought the guy we petitioned the he'd wanna fight so he was doing whatever that he was doing right. What i said was. It's business if this if elliot's negotiate with with waylon arrest and is do pops back up and then i'm not able to convince to do something else different in fuck my business when a guy won't even he won't even do business wanting to do business. I'm bill i'm richard. That's exactly what eagles told me like. Listen is not our four bob. Arum was already negotiating with a female. That's what's female was being hyped up on. Espn he had to beat komei to get loma. It's nobody's fault. It's not your fault and is not lomas four and he still will advocate. Let me play a little bit right here that we play a little devil's advocate right here. You got top rank and bob arum. Jose ramirez over his own. You got loma coming over his zone to fight campbell. Why we're not. Why is it lies. Five amp chan come over. Come over the top rank. Do me a favor. I gave you fighters come over here. Not loma wasn't under zone. Though right bill loma was you got anthony corolla that they did a deal they they worked with. They went back and forth. See the thing about it is that were under the assumption debt eddie delivered the opponents to top rank right to go on. Espn so we were gonna go espn right as an opponent. Faloma go just like just like all the other guys did. We weren't going on there. He had the belt yet the network yet. Everything yeah everything. Tell us to come over. And he had a whole year that he was off. We got us right to call him a duck. We got another one intrigue. The incredible in atlanta says bill. If crawford terence crawford is not fighting spence no time soon. Do you think it's cool. If he doesn't fight porter or thurman order young virgin ortiz. Well i know that. When bob bob want something to happen right. He's very vocal about right And he was very vocal about making. That fight happened. He still he stood there and he watched earl spencer and terence crawford talk right go back and forth in the goshi. He came out and said vocally You know we're looking to make this happen and shit Earl spits it. Eighty twenty seven thirty or something like that right. Seventy thirty eight hundred twenty sixty forty. He gave them all options. Yep he gave them all except fifty fifty. Yep it's divinity right well it's it's definitely it's definitely if he says sixty forty then it should have been sixty four is sixty forty five. Thank you you know that businessman. That's all we love having on this show. Listen we got another one from intrigue who says has devon. Haney ever. Spar giron boots. And it's the future or brandon. Lee my favorite fighter. If so what do you think about them. Yeah he's spoiled brandon lee before we haven't sport we haven't spar boots at all. Got a lot of respect for him and his dad and what they do and what they bring you know really and truly. He's a hell of a fire he's been halibut fodder for a long time and his dad. His dad is a good. Do real good do. And he's he's a he's a thinker right. So i i project boots to have an amazing career and go and go and go places Those those young fighters or devon came came in the door i right. We came in the door and went to mexico because devon was going to be too young to go to the olympics. But but that whole class where dabbing brandon. Lee was in that class boots. Shukor chris. colbert on brian. garcia tipping lopez. That was duck. That was just like a crazy class of of young fighters you know virgil ortiz was in there. I think he was. I think he was a little bit now. he was. i'm not sure. Yeah he's he's from from from texas but he's mexican yes but but then he was he did he have like a big advertiser background in in the united states was in a mexico he in texas houston texas sal from mexico right. Yeah my father did. Yes hey i want to ask you what did you take. would you take on to ortiz. Hooker fight from the whole the now. We ain't going that way right now because why you know you see. I ain't even do a show on that bill because that's not my thing i don't you know i don't get involved in them. Gossip shows but fuck. I got you on the show. I got the actor. Who is this kid is actually funny. The hunt is being the hunted. Now who's verge ortiz. No you use. Kate austen come in full ya who was he. Yeah bill he told my got footage any any hurt devon any. He called coaches and put them on. Faith saw not giving me that face. He no he wanted to smell. You know exactly who des how many fights he got to meet. I'm trying to remember how many fires he got all do. Imagine when you always talk about spine. He say he did what he did his spine. You always say. Don't nobody got no footage of candle by say shit about devon spa. Now you've got some i talk about. They got him. Was that the kid. Debuts one hand against you gotta tell us you gotta tell us. I never heard of him until you now. So he fought before to gamble a fight sport winning before the boss. Right yeah that was where that was. The time with that was the time with devon was using one hand slaughtering them. Gosh and getting dropped or any of that or getting hurt us. Any of that kind of shit never happened. But one thing that did happen is that he worked on him and every spawn farner that he had with one hand and no one knew right. And i'm glad he came out and said it. Because he's he's so my recollection a nice little young fighter right who well not they came out and said they said because you only say him and his father said they only doing a video telling people what it is. 'cause be bill. Haney was out this and devon her this floyd out even even as his name domain mess it up bill. You know i'm going. You know i had a video righty holyfield. No don't don't just sell what i that you might as well send so. We can put it up on screen properly that we can't see that was that general from growing up like a fund. Ucs was so devastating that ed. Hey he's a great champion. I must say. But i think definite door. Npr easy and They put him in with data but duggan have one hand think he broke his hand and something dark right before jim bola and holding his own against dabbing is erased deva. Dad's said all you can eat so that was a good story was wanting to blow up. He kept going so it was interesting. So that's one. Tim story that happened. Seen nobody's fly hoping broken any still in his hand was broken care because his hand was broken so now we know why he knockout gambler. No no no no no. Because that's not for us to talk about. Listen if we don't for us to talk about no we don't need one hand right. We need one hand. You know what. I mean in some of these guys. We can coming up blindfolded. You did what i'm saying. Don't health so the energy change the why he on that interview will year is that when he talking. That's where he said that he said that a couple. He said that like a month ago right so said no. You know what i'm saying said this donald. He's chain a story last week but see. He's a young fighter right so what. He's what he's bragging which i told him energy. I said stop saying that. That doesn't make sense right when you're fuck with somebody with one hand right. Get get grams. You can't give grounds right by building. I'm saying is we got a graveyard full of focus that we but you cannot say that you did anything of my forgot. One hand yup. All about the fact that the real rick ross freeway ricky ross is offering what two million dollars for six round exhibition is i mean i guess you making three versus not as you make in three versus a three time world champion you know with a lot of experience been twelve hours a bunch of times like i mean two million dollars to beat a dude in a six round fight. Floyd do that all you do you hurt. Did you hear ricky. Ross seda delaying lion ricky. Rosny tagging them initiative eight thing. Bill he all bonus fly here. You got here. Looks the wait a minute. Though you can't get into business with no funding money now got to make sure the money is good right. We all know. Listen if you just saying that you to the business you gotta young fighter with with with a few fights rite aid guys. We got the seat we got. We can't see that's the thing. Is that nowadays right nowadays. That you feel like that you can come in and you can just say oh i got a couple of million dollars or oh what i did in sport with the people you got back some of this shit up we need to see somebody this shit you know. We need to see it right and not. Just hold on ryan ryan. Well he got a phone call. Got a phone call demand busy man back at it is back at it but you know the thing is being in a great position. I want all the that know. And being in a great position for devon you know for these millions to be talked about him whether it be the ten ten million the tiff fema was asking for you know defining whether it be the to megan being discussed about them or whether the three million whatever we damn yeah i'll keep my phone keep ringing my shit. Don't don't stay yes so. Listen so we don't want to. We don't what we don't want to do is offend anybody about anything. You know what i'm saying but we need to see more before we take it as gospel for before we can say what kind of fighter he is right or anything like that. I told him. I said to his dad said he couldn't find her memory. You know he's cool. I say course at the next time when he comes up next time when he comes to cap right. We're going to use two hands against him because you know we can't use one hand. That's not something that we We do what was devon's hand was broke right. We never told anybody but we kept sparring because devon had been one year one year away from. I see a one year because the pandemic we want more turned out that we wouldn't will turn down the opportunity to get no megan's right so we said gamble. We'll get married and do their work. So the the head was fixed but we weren't taking a test we were letting as long as possible to heal and he only through the fight. He only through the right hand. Right would authority in the fight but at the same time. He was a little bit rusty because he hasn't been throwing it and he didn't have the confidence that he has with the right now. You see what i'm saying. So that's all. I was telling. The guy wasn't trying to like undermined him. But i was like you know like the smart stories because people are going to get the wrong impression about the shit right and then. He said that he heard when. I'm like that never happened. Well looks like We've got a super chat Hi nita says ness no no no listen listen. Listen as you bill. Hey you know what the you gotta come down because you get on the road when you get on your own mess. It's hard to hard to. It's hard to reel you in. May well as. I'm just happy that we agreed that the devon haney and tear fema both agreed to do business for the next fight. Actually you guys agreed to times business right like you said like oh right now. It ain't good to fight ryan. We wait for audiences. That's what that's what marie she'll saying on your name. He said that both teams agreed right. Now is not the time to fight ryan or no not us. That's not true. I was afraid. I'm sorry. Phase quote francis like look he's looking at. I was going to get it. But he's going to get it. He got he got getting people get into while bills doing that. Let me get to a call. We go who we sliding him and liden intrigued. Incredible what up man going to make my my parents pound man with stainless got something bill on the topic right. I mean thought you wasn't gonna take the go. I mean this. I mean i always said it. Man is i mean. Fortuna is a decent fight but was heavier for telling me like at least like llaneras a consistent fighter for while. We didn't hear from portland. And so i had to skip for tony in that line like he had to. I would really at a chance a couple of times business. Nobody i mean not even pass business. How many times. I lied the door before you walk through but but truth of the matter is how beer is in line. And that's bill. Say he respected. You know that's that's the hard route holding your ground. Stand in your position. And that's how the after he passed up his first obscene. Like damn. I made a mistake. I should've just fought haney now. Get re ranked and stay in my spare. We'll see that. That's that's like his third tano right because he had the opportunity when was still up in common. Then he had tone the he sidestepped at the fight. Campbell for opportunity to fight chevron haney which makes which is the longest route to a straight line. I've ever heard stories some shine like he. The mandatory right is ryan who both parties eddie and and and building them and and the number way. Yes no ryan's the number one mandatory for the second mandatory and and because ryan don't wanna do it right now without crowd that bumps for tuna but somehow you know the nod as the number three he up in. I mean if. I gotta if i gotta pay for a fight off pay lanar before on. So yes this screech saying possible Bill that's not gonna work you ain't it ain't gonna work this but i am always talk about that. We spend my money one. You know what i'm saying. That's like that rubies areola fight. They sound like they try to build a bigger car. I'm cool with that. You know what i'm saying. Make it worth my money. If i if i gotta spend my thing is is still twenty. Four design if. I gotta spend twenty all the nar as or fortuna i spend it all on twitter. Llaneras before smirnoff. Which may i mean if we're told us what what robert easter wellstone either who's a former world shan. And who else do i mean. I ain't gonna democrat may pull the i don't even know right. He beat douglas. Who was undefeated. Go fight he's never been a champion right. Never been in. Seattle was the first guy to seriously hurt at least not now loma ching-kuo life like like he's got at least a good resume sandy's he's got a good legacy behind him. That debra haney. I'm pretty sure it could take out saying. I think the way haney ford someone at were. Eleanor as bobby. I think for tono might be a more difficult fight because of his style but lesnar is a bigger name and in s would with the yuckiest supposed to be about right. Now is building his name. He's still young man. He's twenty one twenty two years old so you give him a pass like i'm giving a pass right. I'll give him a four tornado. Pass is already. He's a young kid so you giving him a pass away. I'm giving. He'll paz's right. I'm i'm giving. I'm giving a pass because he's already had two passes but you just say would you call because he can come back row east his resume and ask bill. Guess if if the yes is what you need to make your point. Yes we all saying the same jam. So i i i mean. I'm just glad that we all see it. The same way for four hundred on us and get the bear cluck. We don't need no pass. would you mean would you. We don't need no pass. We remember story to face a volunteer. That's very you wasted. Involuntary on on on on. What's his name Leonidas man is man five for that step of how are going to be like this step aside money. He ought his hands open. You know you pay me take. No you know what you know what what was strange about that is. Is that when you when you don't when you don't when you ask to step aside right when it comes down to making a big fights and making a fights happen commission and the organization sanctioning body. They don't go easy on you. You know what i'm saying. They don't because when it was time for him to be a mandatory right when it was time for him to be a mandatory ness. You should have been right there. You should have been right dear enforcing it man right. So when he came when he asked them to do something right. We asked them to step aside. He thought that it was going to be cold. And evidently it wasn't he telling leonidas in them to step aside when he wanted to stop the fight with when he wanted to fight. Luke campbell morass want to fight on him guys and stay and just like you just like you say now right if they had an opportunity to find somebody else other than double again. Yeah okay hold up just like that. Got an opportunity by somebody more popular than hobby for and he's doing it. That's the way of the sport. That's the way it a sport. You go for the more popular. Nancy you could build your name and become the assad why we'd be denying that it bill but the thing is that you got to blurry screen on when you ain't looking at you don't let us see. Two words is blurred out. What you need is blurred out. I'm telling you. I love watching that way. No way we re going out. You wanted to read the full. I'm telling you right. Can you see that or not now. It's blurred out. How do you make up right up. I have no clue. Just read a row quick. Yeah you believe. We've been believe you this long. Okay definitely burs ryan. Garcia is certainly fight which all involve wish to have in front of a large live audience. Rank gorsuch rang garcia's officially petitioned to one fight before facing haney with the hopes that circumstances regarding live in the coming months right so you both took a in between five. So let me. I'm melissa said no. No no the thing about it is with law machiko when launching copetition to fight luke campbell right and we thought that when he petitioned lou campbell that we would have action at fighting him because being the interim champion right the same thing when tiffany lopez right when he decided to fight. Lama chink all right. And then he petitioned that we felt that if he beat loma chink all right. He was gonna fight deb. We don't say nothing bad about and we thought that that's what the fight was going to be. When ryan garcia says that one more fight he needs one more fight. He needs one more fight. We say okay. Get to one more fight but this is my point bill. So now you know. Ryan wants one more fight. Why not take care of the mandatory instead of doing voluntary now ryan is free with free. You now got a mandatory. Because when we didn't get a fight that was the named fight anti an and ryan garcia. Right we did get that. We did get tipping lopez. We did get fucking. Wasn't i right so when they did that when they decide to give him to let him stay at his ranking he stays there he stays there. He doesn't move he's still number one eddie picks murray's because that was the next name a castrate name available. But let me tell you how for tuna has been at number one. Didn't wanna fight being number. Two and wanting to fight was no difference right. We didn't know. I didn't know that he wanted to fight that he wanted to fight the big one. If i listen if he didn't fight it number one autostarts right. Sometimes people gotta be ready bill. He wasn't ready not ready. Not okay okay. But we didn't find out he was ready until we start talking to hurry lenora until you start getting on a show with me. And him and samson come on and start talking about hoyer northbound meet me and you had already talked about before before was the conversation with me and you and how was on hit together then i got samson on and and yet talk and i said you know what seven days later then. That didn't happen. So i okay but seven days later seven days later what i was supposed to do was convince eddie to not have whalen arias right. That's what my seven day mission was to go in disrupt that part of the business grandma. And that's what i'm saying that you fast forward in yes no you. You have already been built. She's yeah well then. I'm definitely confused because the way i remember you lying. Because because francis will know francis note is when he came on up we were only talking right because the last time that we had talked he had admitted that he had duct right. He says okay. I met the odd duck. You right. He was not missing. Brian garcia. Mata was the guy not him. Rank garcia was the guy we didn't know rice. Garcia was not the guy to most recently. It wasn't happy or tone of what you mean by the actor. Ryan garcia after. Eddie talked to ryan garcia and texas. And he said. Listen if you don't get if you don't get Tank davis and you don't get you out then considered evan haney. They so y'all consider him then he went to. Wbz titian to the wbz to have another fight. And eddie talk to talk to the narrows. We started promoting areas. And then me you eddie meet you and sampson got back on the on the on the The thing right and then he says we bet fifty thousand if we can make defied half now. That's what i'm saying. Okay that's what that's where we told you it was listened. Betsy wapping beat you to fuck up if y'all fight and i bet five thousand on that who would me. Yes i mean all you gotta do is don't is bet less and just just pay me my two thousand and i'll fight them and i'll show you that he won't beat me up. I guaranteed access. Small listen listen. I won't sued thousand. Fuck all that i want to thousand. If you're gonna pay me. I'll beat him and you're going to see this and he off you can learn. I'm donna teaching lessons. Gimme the twist no just shit to a swell june. Twelve live on the network. Let's then went to fucking do it. No don't don't out of kinase odd. I'm big ace. i'm missing well. After one thing named another dude. How in name name another new to later. I say okay. They would fight as most happened. That let's get you to take the one thing that happens with latin gaas is the first thing they learned is a and they never hear about nothing else. That first letter alphabet. Beat you wanna be a right because you you eisai but you're not a side who club. Nothing how you're not a side right. If just by having a side and bill first of all first of all i got four fates in this little series. We do so. I'm absolutely. I haven't seen one up all you gotta do is look them up. Secondly secondly i got more sparring on youtube with professional boxers than any other journalists out here. Thirdly it's not all bad bets on them but you've got to pay me to. Because i'm i'm not no free. Fighter would pay a quarter. That's you know you see. This is the reason why the energy is because they've been wanting to find they've been talking about it. They both big enough that they should get paid his happy. You jumped out the window without you said every time i fucked with. Listen i bring a wicked. And i don't get i know you gotta bring asked to get some. You know what i'm saying. I bring my ass right. But i never can leave with none of them. Say now let me tell you this. So it's pay mattis to see nascar disaster by as the motor. So you've got to pay me. You will come in as a fight gonna pitch to fight on a pitch the way instead as just that. A league krakace dot com here. Let's go go go. i'm all awesome. Muscles angle means ship. All abl background. He'd be talking about that tracks shit. I'm assuming that he go fuck and running. The ring is what are you gonna do you in the ring with a fucking six five heavyweight or and look build on gotta pay. Let's make let's let's make right. Let's make this clear. I always hiccuping bill. Bill just jumped out this or bill wanna pay to see me. Do it amen. But if if people really brave don't he claimed the rich dolly claim he paid a fucking to jesus to get this fight parking. May i ask you this. so so. What was pan eu to geez. What do i win after the holy. See what you want to see that after you have it you get s live. You get to see what you want to end. The two is just for me to ensure much training camp for eight years now. I can't work as hard as i do. I can't do three shows a day. 'cause i gotta train for. Cyp who who is a gold medalist and tracking. He's a coach has olympic trainers and all that great. I gotta take seriously servino bill. You get to walk around the taking bets for everybody. That's really good to do you get to walk around the audience s. We used to do better off. Everybody one thing. I know about coming to the boxing boys. This is a tough panel. You dig what i'm saying. Listen it's a tough town and always welcoming you. The offer for you got offer for you. I got off for you super chat from bamako. Said i got five thousand ness and i'll give ness one thousand of my winnings year but that ain't for money. I ain't taking back in so solicit. That's i'll take that money. But i still want my guarantee money. I'm i gotta take a training camp. I'm gonna have his work list. I listen. I'll tell you what i'll tell you what you know what i mean. Fuck just come work with the hp because you are an extraordinary businessman you are trying to get me right now to pay you to you fight world. Can you come over and help us over here. I would absolutely love a job. I will handle you cd rom. Pop ain't nobody talking about that. I would definitely take the job. Let's go chain appreciate but when when you would see why do getting narang buying roads rossi and yell around with all that cash exchange. I'm telling you. I'm telling y'all gonna talk me out some money and listen. I didn't come here for this a bill if you hit p talking. Cyp said is old. He's too slow he hands. No i'm feed. The i'm telling you see where p talking shit best i don't know he might get back talking especially from the from the town you gotta do is get people what they want man pay like. He weigh man because he ain't rank so he owned deserve an opportunity. Just like fortuna dome. He ain't got no fights he ain't never have you seen. Cyp admits. i never. I never seen nothing. I never seen. Hey bill bama bosa give you cut your to. He'll give one get one he'll give one on the same day to ness not saying they upfront. Upfront rights money to like all fighters guaranteed to man. How he said he eisai's see. That's what i'm talking about bill. Everybody as that there you go. That's the delusion in them. He wanted duck the fight. How to fuck you never fought. Well he said he goes on to make it official. He did say that he'll team. Okay now all you gotta do is do everything he tell other fighters do take money. Got in pain us. And we're gonna get this. Fight popping louis c. p. we stream born in the ring with you and i'm coaching you come onto vegas. Let's put it put into battle. You go train little. I see all we need to give us. Give us five weeks together. Give us five weeks thank you. It was five weeks together. Listen that's fucked up. You're going to train man and beat me now. You see that could be cooking man and and and the ship that he'd be saying i might learn something we come up here man. He learns He takes no fight swell june twelve. Well ness he goes between two hundred and two hundred and fifty. Real quick can ness. Are you going to give me ringside seats. What vip greece. I come. i'm gonna take francis will take care of. I gotta tell you it is. I got you good. Location is in wisconsin watertown. Because this is going to be a. I then thought it was miami now. We did florida already. Just finished that. Saturday march thirteenth Where where's nelson city was the closest city to wisconsin walkie milwaukee school. We'll walk like i gotta find out but we go in. There is because we trying to get out of the gyms and this is the first time we this is a live venue. It's a bar. So we'll have indoor outdoor. They'll be women you know with the with the waitress. You know the little trays bringing your bottle. Service deejay live smoked laser. So this the evolution man up to get the network. Who was the promoter on the modem. That'll help me pay the promoter. No well that's the thing. I actually now to promote. Actually i announced retirement on that sunday. Because i want to focus. I retire francis to everybody on the team got retired. Because we've got mine right here. Look mind you gotta you gotta you gotta make sure you focus it there you go. I got you take the bag off. So i retired everybody on the team because now that we got this network did we gotta work diligently and and focus on putting out a great production. You know what. I'm saying so technically so technically did you duct. Cyp no absolutely not never. Okay okay let me ask you this. Dan dotson i feel that's a real organization. Bad absolutely they they my boy that's here. They said they look so technically price yourself out of the fight. Never tire. No absolutely not. That's not what happened. Because did you get. How much did you get paid you last night then persons disclosed because listen because what i get on paper. No listen listen. Listen devon what. I get on papers different. Because i'm a fighter and the promoter you know how that works who do not accept that what you do you do want you do. Want your biggest payday to fight. Cyp because i understand i. Let's listen like like aloe. I understand that the dynamic of stream will make for big pay-per-view but him versus like you know daniel jacobs it ain't going to sell. Its me you know just like when gennadi for jacobs was in work but with cannella at work. I'm canelo he's not. You don't know what you just stepped into. It's like when you walk in east epide- shit like i'll see see. I guess what does mia. Cyp we're gonna put together the vet. You know what i mean and we will bring you out of retirement. And we're we'll bring you over there to ourselves show and then thinks it's going to change i. What the list come to bank. Come get some work. He's something work he saying. What i said look he said they gonna put together an event. They're going to bring me today of so basically you pay me. Just pay me now. Hey listen no no no because we do. What you do we go. Let the seats and we're gonna let everybody else pay you. We're not gonna get back get. Cyp on your show and wait for the night to sign is c. See why peo- draw. Do everybody wanna see are they. Do they want to see off. I think there's a significant amount of people that might wanna see it. Okay what are you going to him. Because i think that if it was a fish you didn't weaken build it even more. Because he's he's a good talker. Right now is just a thought and people want to see if it was officially by you being a promoter. I'm looking for opponent wizards opponent to pay you. You are no longer the eisai mr haney. I forgot to tell you that he's awesome. And i got price was like canelo got price for the gennady five right like that's like he's affiliated with Coach larry weight as well. That's a close friend is oh cyp yes. That's very very trouble. You a trouble ness. He's looking to reach out to coach. Larry get into camp. that's his like his close friend. So you know they tracked buddies coach coach coach wayne a halibut conditioning. Coach you know and and and see why. Give me a call. Man hit me on the graham or have nest nest probably got his number given that gives you why people number there you go just like that but now they really wanted to get this fire going. You know it's a big fight in and they gotta get paid. Yes they want it. Banned both number is like i say is like i say the longer we wait the more. The price goes up right now. I just troubled because he got sorry. I just had to tell you you know you know mike. Polite coffee digest. Knocked out the money from philadelphia. I don't know him. But i know that he got the money. Rotgut knocked out. I'd like i just just posted on like my buddy. I followed the plan. That's why i'm so the wi p. I'm following the anywhere. I'm on his body reported by larry. I'm sparring mike polite and i'm putting out just like them. Haiti respecting my my my word. That's craz- let's see mess mess but see the thing about it is is if anybody does being conditioned training with larry way right you got kayla plant. You got sean porter. Wright dim dim two dogs right. Then you got. I spoke with a man Port and that's what i'm that's what you're listening to. I spoke like the cyp smoke. I don't know i don't housing route. Athey athletes not no he attract star. Bill you know better than anybody running name boxing. You know that we need to make despite happened. Just need to be your last fight cement if we if the time get the ten ten to twenty five hundred man. I'm not planning because you don't know the team. He got ready for you bro. I also you've gotta team for me you thinking about me I got you already already already on his head. You've got a team for me at these training. If he's training with coach way than the stamina is gonna beat up too far call. Dm in coaching and training. And i ain't over there with larry man. He ain't over there. He said he ain't opened their overdue. France you talking listening communicating back and forth setting gives back and let me know. Let it be known that we almost done with this park. Has the prices just not gone up. Because i just wasted forty minutes like promotion e come to knock you out. Forget that he comes. Ko just promoted this do for free so now got to pay for the prices officially gone you now more people own listeners. Going to be like who cyp. I don't fucking know man you know but absolutely at because if it ever happened is going to be live on the bp. At i'm onto a network once again. Why i am a side. Price went up man. Twenty five hundred eight. Listen absolutely but brought the border wars men and what you guys are doing with this shows. Amazing i can't get enough of it every time my gercy over there like come on like every time when i see you guys i started instead of texas super chats out of you know what i'm saying. Let me take you guys are doing a platform. You provide opportunities for fighters to get get their message off to the fans. Man appreciate what you guys are doing. And i'm gonna come out and support on june. The twelfth walks long as long as close to a major city. Where the airport that i get up out of there after. Oh yeah only. Mk is the here. I appreciate you appeal love. cyp cyp. Well i've trouble this wall. You sound a little muffled just as as as the we listen to me. Listen i'll sit down. Sit next to my wife right now. Listen or we listen and you you know you got forty five seconds. I'll take that fight for the next book. Wars i five. I have a five week chat way. We can get all right. Well then you know you know you know what my you know when my purse stuttering now you gotta fight except the fight ended up to find talented may proof of funds. Many who who know y'all have here for two talents may from five get the tv audience. To rate of mine could inc. yo. Bow and bama what up. What up what he wanted to put at least wanna put a g up front man. Let's go one of the fighters gonna lose and no matter. What don kings wanna win. That's the way it's supposed to be. It's an american man. That's enterprise can. This is bad. As i feel like i want to. Just say something right. And i probably won't because she's sitting right there too right. I wanna say. Wanna say. I got thousand. That's but you know. What would you played that don king thing right. Just put my money back You yo doesn't. That's my intro man. Greatest promote all time. Don king man still alive and breezy. I give my Flowers while here but yes I've got a thousand no friend. I could see here tonight tomorrow. Whatever and then. I wanna put in an escrow off for maybe i ll be none. Y'all not. I'm a humble guy but i heard that i'm back of the fighter and promoter nece so yeah it is much modesty why well call other year twenty twenty. You know you've got this. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what what wait you fight us. I fighter. i'm a pound for pound days. And i also work alongside with some people on the company boxes where you just knew. Now we start our mining's now he'll wanna make that bet med nuno he'll pay. Let me pay you watching him. Do you watch paying its. Cyp he call me. And tell me to make the bet than i would have to man. Because i'm supporting. Cyp man behind control with this. I'm getting behind you. I'm getting behind if he called me. Cabrini back on if you tell me to make this thing happened man. Yeah so so so so so leonidas is going to win so not as a kidding. Listen you got the. They tried to take the trying to take our money man. I started out spending four ninety nine five ninety nine fifteen hundred thousand own. May god damn man. Hey this is what you say five dollars off with the five thousand rose you wanna bet. Y'all messy. I'm telling you if it's now it's now five extra minutes. I the more abilities fight for free. The more i gotta get that money in somehow if you go up anymore. I'm a note that you don't want to you. Listen francis let's bill you listen. Listen bill guess what you said the same thing about fema. When he told me he wants a million below he just got points. I speak a believer receive. I thought while the total all that if you if you got the fallout with everybody to get the money is that called good money. Some money is bad money man some money and good money man all money. Ain't good money ness if you've got to fall out with everybody counterpart stainless who's fall now you know if somebody's gotta get you gotta go six million and you're gonna fall out with body that's different. Hold them back man trying to hold them back. There ain't no something bill. Listen it wouldn't say you really statism shake has everybody's pouring money on this right. Now they come in in with the thousand dollars finesse. Yo francis but national seem like he wanted just what guess what he got. Listen how many people are going to just put up the two thousand s to make the nobody. Listen i'm going to provide training supplements to your right right now. You i look at this as coach. Wait go be sponsored by snack. You see what i'm saying. Because he got to get in shape. Now we do now. We gotta do vodka. Listen you bother if you want to do it. Snack does not snack straight above the board with anything that they got. You know what i'm saying. Right ain't nothing but a little man in the k. Willie monroe has signed different to say man. I don't know he was. He was awesome snack before the dramatic you. Dm you must check it. Okay receivers yemeni. Oh doubleteaming billed as chance to chat from the real niger chick from the uk. She said i'm with both bama abo- i'll put one k to my money on ness and i think same is wanted to counterpunch staying. This would've make the fight. Happy of a contra percents serious has good. I guess we got enough money already on. We got enough money. Honey where is it adds. Put him on the phone. They they wanna see it and they ready to put the money up. So let's make it happen. We'll see where the money ad where the go ahead precise that a hundred on that right now. Two hundred on that tomorrow. You might wanna check back. Call between us and bill. We already twenty. See honey great. Hey man get that money to me. Somebody get the cash. Don't act like y'all know it and if it draw we got ourselves of how let's let's let's get a daylight on it. I actually got to to kind of punches. That's mine. And then. I got another busy wi fi because i need the backing that smoke gone with. Let's go back home and see what see better call it all night. All peace now. Do you accept once that money. Clip bill proof of funds is man. Come on. i'll get everybody out there. That proof of funds talk. Am friday morning in. Let's get this fight. Supercharge real quick from saint. Listen everybody listen. I'm very sincerely want to say this for my heart appreciates all believing. Fight your no. That's the only reason i came onto the show was to whoop squirts ass and it'd be a dream of mine to get in the ring and whoop his ass off at city talk leader at the back that up. Finally he knows he afraid of me. But y'all go the money go make man money. Go make the man. And i'm gonna see you. I'm a senior in the best shape. Ever be. And i'm beating your head. You're saying to shame don't know you don't even need no supplements. He already in shape don. Yeah he's muscles ain't winning no phase last time. I'd sir intrigued. The incredible says francis bill and nasa announcing the fight fire. Moji hashtag borders. Give me a fight against a bud. Tender after wisconsin go so accept. Did you accept. I mean when that when clear you know how work man proof of funds. I mean i don't know why you keep laughing natto. okay. But i'm saying this how long you already got half. The money came in well. Dame ain't nothing to me. Calculate tony silverado. Said i got two. G's right now. let's get it. All i need is a back in solano so salgado's like that. That's why i'm saying. Put a deadline on this front row. Money the cash is always right here. Man all you gotta do say that matter of fact let me help you. I was so let me help. Pay me let's go like israel which come in you know friday's deadline. Let's do it. But they gotta call us here. Are you going to make sure the money come in you calculating it man. You got it right now. We we already. We already surpassed asking so you come in with the only thing that hit the account with zeros and the number and i can't be frustrating account promoting i started. Make sure the vip's are you. Love saying what they gotta get you know. So that's what i do. You know what. I mean side time. That's a beautiful show. That's a beautiful show. We got ness listen. Do you know how many people wanna pay to see you in there. Hey hey all pay eight. That would been saying from the start. That's gotta do is pay man but let me say we got in maryland. Right hawk is in an everybody. Go follow see wiping claim your position man. And you'll see what i'm passing. I'm telling you what i'm looking at. I'm looking at somebody. This ready to go man. He thought this guy was just talking student athlete. A bill nice left hook is mean. Case is it francis. Let meanness this. I'm just saying that'd be dropped. Anybody you saying. Drop somebody dropped. You gotta go to tape tape. The he made he made wives jump in the ring and say no more no more. Please no more sent me some man. You ain't sent me missing some you iran with other side of what. I'm gonna send you for what i'm melito believer for now. You ain't choose me man. You got some fights. You got some fights on here. France i gotta look at let me study. Let me study you know. Let me study the competition man. So i can help so i can have reading j mac. What up counterparts looking a. You should do a hundred dollar people view. I don't know what this money thing you try to go. I'm not budget because we p no. No no no. Were you know what. I'm saying to a hundred dollar watch. Whatever you up one hundred dollars to watch it ended up put up knowing you put under was that i have. I'm gonna lean with the. I'll output up every five neither g On him I'll take a back with a mind and stuff like that. And i will also extend my services as well since i was to train up here on his show last time. So i i gotta see why pee on the them as well. Hey hey hey ternan. Wow good you know what. Nasa has to coffees. Jim and you talked to coffee. Get working chip is all that is just good to see man is good to see who your friends but listen that is everybody all the super chad's ryan me double check you guys man appreciate you. Bilas always ma. Let us know when you get that location You know that we can out of his. Way out of boeing bama says i will send upfront money to nest if bill confirms were five thousand dollars back in bed. Good brother no thank you. I'm gonna be working that. I'm going to be coaching. Cyp and i need to concentrate on. Coaching can't have that many. The eliza corn. Listen i'm i'm gonna be the end of the corner where they can't. I can't concentrate on watching somebody if they walk out. Let me let me just confirm that you're going to be in the corner more you show you can be in the corner widow. Absolutely i ride the prices now. Three thousand because they lack in the chips against chimps against me. You know what. I'm saying like who when floor ford was impact down and he went and got fucking alex. Areza keep talking keep going well. Listen i promise you guys june twelfth. We won't be doing anything that's going to be the summer going to be a great show. Great opportunity come out and to see you fellas an ms around so all right right. John you'll have a going to be good lady. Jane's that is everybody in every tang from what i can see. I'm double checking. Lists like sana. But i think that's a real quick Everybody out there that Loves the border wars. Make sure you go down and download the bp at tech network. Yes sars is. I checked it out. It was dope. it's definitely worth it and And it's free so you can't go wrong man it is free support us over it. You know and definitely download that at we got my jean. Becker told to me yeah. That's good brennan. Yes oh i hate you know bringing race into boxing. I hate this thing but you know Because it's nice just boxing. Its international sport. Who really cares about what color of fighter as you know is just what they're doing the ring but that being said you know how many people saying well you know roy jones be hop. How many real mexicans do no way great mexicans way one hundred sixty pounds one hundred seventy five pounds. There is none. You know what. I'm saying that they they're more known for dominating. The lighter weight classes. I mean in my opinion salvador sanders. Anthony lopez are the best mexicans. Ball time you know not not not de la hoya now. Julia showers so it doesn't really add end. The day just doesn't matter about race in my opinion but this is coming from somebody that is not african american. I don't understand How they feel so you know. I can't really talk about that. But i'm just talking as boxing fan and what i feel and why i watch the sport. I don't watch it for anything any race reasons. I don't root for anybody. Because of their color. I just love the sport period But anyway jay mak. I got an s on that fight so Let me know what the bet is. I talked to la revenue for with a supercharged. Says year. i'm still lurking around. Salou from the gang a mess oh you a little boomerang change champi hashtags sniper game j. b. cinema says here is my pay per view nessa as Trae miller did we get to that bill. Sea side again. Laughing ness here goes my second fight. Donation yeah we need to shout out. The james benitez man. I love to make sure we don't miss nobody. Oh we miss that one. He said intrigues said. We need bill at border wars. Put him on the mike lamb co host with how. I've been trying to ask bill if he got six minutes. I couldn't get a chance bill guy. Six minutes built. Woo hoo bill. Jose alejandra says never see weapon on a rainy on the car. Now we talking man now we talking big money man right. That is definitely all of them. i fellow schedules on the next one. This turned into a three hour and a half show. Lord have mercy man man. He's piece you sir. No you can catch me man next to a sports talk any x. Up sportstalk also. Was there in three and tree or he wanna fight this talk about it. What my friend you still there read. It don't know what went on. I had a question. You ask a question fall when it's oscar nominated i. I was asked him what he thought. You know when it's all said and done what he thought highs weight class David haney was gonna end up at. I wanted to know that. And then i. i was asking about randomly. I you know. I'm big on brandon lee. Would i see when. I watched him fight. He got goodbye tonight. You got power ranking croat. Incense devon's far with brandon. I wanted to see if he thought he'd be champion at one. Forty two questions on apple but those questions but he asked him like the way yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah because it was kind of long winded so he probably get lost in south actually down to two parts digit. Yeah no yeah. Yeah no i know. but he. He did say that brandon lee. Was you know he. He said he respected helmet boots. He kind of answered it and a light speaking on all the the unbecoming fighters that he you know i. I felt that. But i i was going like get specific about brand lee but but on that border wars man after wisconsin man. I started my trying to count that day. Man i'm getting back into sit on back from moscow on with my trainer majoring. Everybody in a I'm bad with him. You know. I mean it's my homeboy. You know i mean so. I mean you find me a butcher turned and even if and i would tend you. Finally somebody staff saying that you know you know stone was trying to get in there with the minute. You say you know what i firestone. I don't really wanna fight on. Because i like stone but vital if that's if that's who it is it and that's when we match all lying i'm sixty six feet six feet but you know i mean fight stone bone and you ain't in the same way though 'cause you you look thinner would you win the sit. I'm wearing like right now. I mean i hit the scale. But when before i came from ascott eighty five. But i've been i've been i mean the thing. Is that when you work out you probably going to lose a few pounds. But he's definitely. I think to ten i think is what he said your way heavier to me now. I mean working out. So i don't know what my weight is. It's he'd come down if if i was the guest. I'm like one seventy eight right now. You know what. I mean some like that. I don't know. I ain't stepped on the scale but i know my else that they got no way smaller doing everything don't cardio weight training sparring doing all of this. So you know you you put me in will anybody. I don't care who i i mean. Fight somebody bigger than me. It's an matter 'cause. I gotta be weight classes though man way classes you know yeah i hear you but i'm saying i'd be great. I do what. I what i'm asking but to do. If he can't get a fight at one four seven one three two four or five male. I do the same. Thank you i to be your first fight man so you could you know. Get the way man. But but i'm telling you man my train on a whole new level man. I am doing some mean footage footage Yeah footage always house man. We just once esteban. Looking amazing yasser check that out on patriots We see we esteban back in. Let me let me ask this. Who tap at a. what is it what. what's the. What's the white glass about one. Seventy five who wants to any five. No chat right now. Camping is vague and just got some fighters over there. I guess aunt is in that division with his missing wade s he was one. Seventy light-heavyweight right. He's wha- class did. He decided One seventy which is really one sixty eight. Okay okay. yeah so yeah. Yeah yeah he he about size than i am. You know what i mean. Then you think you're ready for you. Crazy is light experience man. You definitely need nah. Nah ya by by the. Like i say i wanna fight wisconsin but after wisconsin that you know i it. Is you know it's going to be a whole nother. Love man that shit i coulda did some man i. I'm just gonna leave it like that man. I fight anybody. I find anybody right. Lie in it by. We'll see who calls you out now tree. We got heavy handed addition. Gop long beach for the fires show tv. And then we got. Mr seventy four is a little tv money. That's it. that's it nick. Well why everybody always get. Mario killed man just say he won. Eighty five and he's six feet. I get you though. That is my visit. Meyer better lose weight man. Mario retirement tbb until further notice. Unless like i said so big that happened. I'm looking for something like that. I'm i'm looking for one then. Foggy paydays trying to find me. The i want them to be nice. Gotta be worth your. Wow man like i gotta make sure the ship pabov right to do You know like right. That is oh we got another one he says and he says oh with heavy has sending. I'm a sin just to put man. Oh spend inspect. I thought you meant send it spend just as likely i thought it was a game. I'm really be reading my own shit. Y'all is over though nasty. Te'o damn almost four hours man. I better lovers may hit that thumbs up button. Future present past helps with the visibility of the show Yeah let's do it. Pays everybody out there Make sure you do me a favor. The whole box and voice family. I hope everybody is doing well. Come check me out at moore's house on you too out appreciate it likes inscribing share and hopefully i'll see you all soon for those. That don't know this name down. There is the cash. And that's why he's got the neon lights. It's like you know in the liquor store you know from the guy came born. Leeann is like dt. Oh the cash the dollar all. That's what that is showcase with the lace super chat sentencing loss of danny's fools. I am my brother's keeper tim o. Eilly for fire modi's let's go. And then we got mr pbs coming in lee. Yep late late man. I seen claim our focus on it got paid for that shit. I don't know what you're talking about. You pay me to play it. I play because i fucking fuck which you pay for him Donkey heated man. This chiller five grand but I like yo you offer me. How did you believe this is my speech. So let's talk about cannella and Buds let me turn the clock his starting to clock Key right. he ain't no black fighters. I mean black fighters snow slick. Black fighters daniel jacob sainted nigga. We all knew that Necas i was washing. A fight weight knew that and they asked me was that man i was. I know he was a runner up but I'm definitely with With this it's been a long time. Since i agree with bud so i've been i today. I bought a t shirt By crawford Yes which when you get the tea. Bbc sound like that walk. I'm definitely willing but on this canal. Scared of slick black fighters He will get his garbanzo being broken and He definitely needs that. Ryan garcia route safes Way home around all the real ones and hopefully he makes it through and Survived because you know talking about coming down billy. Joel's go knock them around and we got more latte door with the super chat says how much we got a raise for you. Versi y p. Well with all the free promotion. I did all the hundreds of thousands of million list of pay to i was hustling to douse. When he hit the cash app we can count it. We'll let you know what we and the thing is that like with all the free promotion with the once this podcast his items tunes and i heart and spotify and the millions of people. Download the herod. You know what i'm saying. We we we we. We did our job. We and It right now on the live. Show in back-off people talking about. Oh we got twenty six even though i ain't got no cash but You know imagine when the when no when the download people. Because that's like you know that's the beauty of this show man. You know i you know people like to compare it to you to channels but is like you know. We're podcast maso. we're on. I tunes and iheart and spotify and a lot of people that don't use youtube you know that they're just podcast listeners. And that's why we got all those beautiful. I tunes reviews so shout out to everybody johnson. Five star review keeping number for many many years on i tunes as the highest rated box and podcast. But let me tell you. There's some other people coming up front. So i need continue to drop those five star reviews man like chris mannix gave up this shit like whoa but yeah my life. Oh and then we got heavy handed. Jada says now the seven. Oh four you know. I can't let you out do me. Oh shit and then seven four came right back and said hey heavy hands spend some money with me my so they supachai back to back east and heavy end addition came back and said you know i drink craft. Mola money hit the cash Let me see what he said. Oh he sent twenty about the say. I thought he bought me out. I've seen a to in tex- you know when you just see a said. What did he buy me that. He bought a contract like what. Yeah but i think unless somebody seven a light heavy. What a light heavy hands. Let's go chan is going back and forth spending money. We got twin. Says yo what a show had me laughing. A lot of motives shot on the bill making versus ep habit. And now we got a think that my credit to james payne letham money too. That's a what was what up. What up let's remind are wonderful so it was if it condition of the other boxer voice radio park. His legacy are saying i was talk. Sheet seem in a try to get some advice for us would be heine suggest some of the things they giving during his fourth improving on his full where excuse endurance stuff like this. But my yard got me excited. Like for crp versus young. Not this. what. I'm seeing all this free promotion. I'm giving his co. gotta fight may living off. My name may meet goto instagram. I'm like because you know the following before you never. I've just got him there. That's what i'm trying to tell you how to do off your name. That's why he needs to pay because he's my name would a little blue she get about forty one thousand day years dreadlocks and she look insight. Late played football the song he was not trial coach. No no that's what. The dress assembled. Address nod is delay it on san francisco forty nine injures. I mean there's probably him man he very in shape why were so while follow dues him off and i was already following you. So you know this. Put their fight together. Marijuana see man this this time fight. I were actually pray. Look at look at him line. Un-filed i didn't get one extra. Filo wish she him. The blue ticks. I ain't gonna follow fake people. Marijuana follow the real people real deal official now trying to relieve cloud of mine. Name those also. This was go was he gonna do my did they. Put the money no money and you may look like the biggest cash out we got was from. James benitez was fifty bucks and the next one follow. Was my man more to twenty we. We got seventy dollars man. That's not even worth my time. Dictate the heat up via my via had to try to get depressed off a hill so each tried flipping on this he. No you will see what he got a little smoke out making a look risk overdose. He tried to flip on you but my might be. He'd be stunned too much. Count hunters of thousands of dollars. Worth two bands was five. Bands may gulbis sponsor. This is giants prion lethal is is just asking making request. 'cause it seems if you don't ask you mr behind you will give anyway. I don't tell it's possible the wars. Why don't you how sponsors for while. I help out the blake museum. These young these these young men of multi ethnicities multicultural. We try to go worldwide with this thing. Tv is more than podcast. It's a way of life a movement. What i'm saying like we change in lives over her. We encourage people to get off the couch and to pursue soft. I've been in down there every day with aspirations. To one day competing boorda was changing my life. Everybody around me telling me. They see changes in weight loss and things like that. I'm putting my paying song. They started to fall off. The i gotta go shopping. Hey do that gilles normal saying and this just meet. I haven't even had the privilege of participating yet. And then i'm looking at people like francis he'd been outside the waters aboard awards. Utah awards. d- only been baptized castle about tax. Mario even might see what i'm saying. It might this a special situation. Said i mean he really had to be down for the cops and so many dozens more. And i'm just crave the opportunity to get the so. This is a lifestyle so miss the haney. If you list you can just get ease. Brothers shot. I am so so so convinced that you will not be disappointed. You might even be impressed with the dedication in l. foot in the collaboration in the tireless continue to pursue one goal of having assists will event. You might be so impressed. There could be other opportunities that manifest criminal co partnership of tbb and d. h. So this my humble request if you could just considered and if you yourself if you know somebody lison of boston community this successful and they would like to take a shot. We all take Everyday but some wrist a more certain orders and i. I really don't think this you'll be disappointed when you bid on. Tv you listening for a reason because you see something on this. I won't disappoint site. Apple preaching preach preach a. We got seven four. Mr seventy four came back and said what am like hands that jp and then the heavy handed addition came back and say yard deserve it and it looks li- missed the seven four came back and say your little hands where the money and then Killer whales and kylie came and said hurry. i got a fire. Show can wait to download and listen on the playback tomorrow at work. Pc that's one of those downloads. I'm telling me about heavy handed came back and said i ain't got my taxes yet. So shot out shot out. Stick talk boxing you talking. Did i get oh. He's not in right now. That is everybody info. Joe slid in china the west coast. My gonna see this doing late. Show east coast west. We call hundred by. Y'all was the my boxing brothers man. Boxing guys where what my brothers. i was. Fortunate to be baptized myself. Man a yourself baptized least one time in this border. Wars thing man is going down is going to be on the bt network. So you know what i'm saying. I think it's going to be the best one. That's the male liking that that why versus dance man is high when everybody man. This is going to be. I think it's could beat us army as the biggest name. Buddha was of course meal hype man to man at the white time. Because we don't want it how we want to do it this time. You know what i'm saying. All the bills will still dj music in between the whole nine. It's going to be hytner involving everybody to more. People signed up to join man. Just bang this one out the best man. How black behind. I'm getting breaking news. The brotherhood is on. And he's gonna call. J. mac for boorda was eleven in wisconsin j. What brother brother brother brother is brotherhood online. Where's the brotherhood stepped to the microphone. Crucial you got to have a brother. You gotta mutant. He no middleman francis. I never told you you. Don't look at the chart now. I didn't see the bread. I'm like multitasking over here. Sorry you ain't really multi viewing to chat boom boom. I entry boomerang limited. Yeah i give me a fight man. Like i say that i i ain't gonna boost me up but the right hand light-water a fight for the next will not this wilder trying to calcite. Where for the next one. We don't even get a date yet. Get and if i can help you get some type of sit down here in atlanta. 'cause i know to be fine but you know that venue expensive things anal joe i give in you worry about what you can get aware about to get a decent stick coverage does the catering. I definitely look at it. Your let's duties when you can now here. Let's go to be better by take to spot you all atom face to face and then see we can work out you know like if i want to do something he'd be like go like he will cut with that shit but you know let's go meet him weren't definitely intrigue. Let me get the crucial crucial that. I get wrong information or you wanna fight. June twelfth in wisconsin watertown against j. man man. I guess we're going to do this another day. Man because the i'd take him in the ot t to the crucial. That's calling. i did. The is only seven for them. Out did now is just turned. Hey crucial in colorado where it's a mighty only eight should come on crucial. We try like mad times. Crucial crucial crew friday night. Man they would. What's going on i. We're going to get that one going next. Yeah next day man piece. Yeah we may notify me man.

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Mark Pattison joins us on sports by line, the former wide receiver who played for the raiders Rams and the saints. And then after he retired. He was kinda lost for a little bit of time, and then he decided to take a journey, and that journey was to climb the seven summits on seven continents. You said, one time Mark climbing mountain can be intimidating. Tell me why. Well, I think if you don't respect the mountains, your fool, and, you know, you take a look at the mess that happened in nineteen ninety six on Everest when, you know, very, very poor judgment resulted in the deaths of many, they happened in climbing superstorm. They're supposed to turn around time. They didn't they ran out of oxygen. And so I have a extreme respect for the mountains, and what they can do. And it doesn't matter, whether you're talking about Everest re near or other places that are quite as high, you know, went bad weather comes in that things can happen. And so I don't know. I, I can tell you this has been an absolute joy to be on this journey. And, you know, they, you know, obviously the summit is built on the goal, but the journey to get there, the people I've met and interacted with going to all these countries on these different continents. This fascinating. How did you decide mountain climbing? I mean, there are a lot of other things that you could have done, but this one is something you didn't know anything about but decided to. Do. Yeah. You know, I. No, I, I was going through this time. You know my, my, my dad had passed away from stroke suddenly and, and my, my long-time spouses, twenty four years newer for thirty want to be married anymore. And so it was just a very hard time for me and, or really need to have something like re-energized myself. And, and so after going through, you know, this, this, this place of, of, of loneliness, and just being pretty empty, you know, I after about two years, I decided to change my mindset. And once I did that I stepped my sides on doing something phenomenal. Athletic realm. Obviously, I couldn't go back and play football anymore. There's days where behind me. Other I, I still think that one plus plan me, but I, I said, no. I I'm from Seattle is, you know, and I, I it's very mountainous community up there. I knew a lot of mountaineers and I always respected those guys, so I did some research and found that no NFL player ever caught him to seven so much. I said, I wanna be that guy in, you know, God willing, I've got one to go Mount Everest, and, you know, very close to that goal, now, you know, the seven summits on seven continents. I'm assuming that each one has its own different personality. It sure does. And that's a good question. Because really when I map this thing out at talked to a guy professional guy that has been on all these different mountains and really helped me devise a plan that can tack these things. And it really had to do with difficulty without the tude within learning how to use Europe's dealing with carafe crampons, you know, acts and all those things. And, and so I've been on this kind of this chronological path, you know, all over the world last being on amount called Vinson massif in Antarctica and, you know, each one brings its own unique flair to it. Each one, we've had issues with on the weather's last one guy got frost by the nose and thumbs. And we've had people flown off the mountain, then people claps, and people falling crevasses. So you know, kind of everything has happened, but, you know, because I think that my perpetration has been extreme. And I really taken seriously. I fortunately have not run into any of the situations. Mark. I'm gonna use an analogy that's familiar to me. And that is, as a pilot, I always learned early on that, if you're flying four hundred miles an hour, you better be thinking four hundred one miles an hour. Let me put that mountain climbing as well. What are the things that you should be doing? And I'm supposing not taking anything for granted being one of them. But how do you approach something like what you're trying to do? Well, you know, I've done a couple of things. Number one, is that moved to some valleys, some valleys that baseline elevation of six thousand feet. So I've already tried to acclimate every morning, I get up and ski up the mountain most people ski down. But I go up, I call it skidding I go up three thirty five hundred feet. You know, I'm soaking wet by the time we get to the top change out skied down, you know, training in terms of weights, making sure that you're strong, and that's just on the physical end. You know, of course, cross trained doing. Bunch of other things. But, you know, fuelling yourself in the proper way, the higher, you get surprisingly, your appetite get suppressed, and so making sure you're hydrated, and the right way, and by doing that you have to melt snow, and, you know, very painstaking to do these different things to melt snow and water. But also having hydration behind that, you know, the foods that you eat the bars, all the things that are going to make sure that you don't lose drop energy. So you don't lose your marbles when you get hired out once the sense of satisfaction, and exhilaration you get when you get to the top. Well, it's a good question because a lot of times, you know, if you can imagine being on a stairmaster with, you know, seventy five pounds back for fourteen hours. And you know might as twenty degree weather, you're so fried. By the time you get up there, you, you have to be have your sense about you, little bit that you've only going halfway, and you still have to get all the way down in most the accents that happened on the mountain place happen coming down, not going up. I would assume because of the discipline of you playing football at Washington. And in the National Football League that may have given you somewhat of an advantage, as far as the discipline of handling the fear factor. I write about that. Well, the fear factor also comes in the NFL. I mean who would wanna come up go across the middle against Ronnie Lott? Did. I did. And, you know, fortunately, I did that hundreds of times thousands of times before that in practice and, you know, in high school, and in college and all those things and just like now, you know you just don't go take on about Everest. You know on your first shot. And so we're talking about the seven right now, but I've literally been climbing hundreds of mountains that are much smaller and not game as all of the country that I put my sights on I go after and, you know, that's what it's all about, is that have that daily disciplined to get out and, and take your craft seriously knowing that things can happen in so you wanna put yourself in the best position possible, that you're going to succeed is any of the big seven something that you'll never forget, is there, one particular mountain. Whether it's the big seven or another mountain climb that was kind of etched into your mind. Well, I think the one so far that's been the most difficult Dinelli Tonelli is up in Alaska. And if you're gonna manage the Alaska national park range is bigger than the state of Massachusetts, that check Ganic. It's a spectacular and to get in you have to fly a plane land on the ice in these start at seven thousand feet, and then he got to carry one hundred thirty pounds of this, you know, crazy steep mountains, and you have all kinds of bad weather that rules in I, I was on Tonelli in two seventeen twenty seventeen and we got pushed back by minus eighty degree weather superstorm came in and bad things were happening. And so we had to pack it in and it was frustrating, but, you know, you just had to say, hey, mother nature won that round. But, you know, when I did make it last year. It really so far has used all the tricks of the trade that have learned from, you know, using your ice axe going straight. It up these different faces repelling off being hooked into these fix lines. You know on Iraq's on all four it really used all my game and there's probably the most out, it's fine. We got about two minutes left and I'm just wondering having done. What you've done. What did you learn about yourself going through this? Well, you know, gosh, I've learned a lot one that I can overcome a lot of things you know, again, going back to that, that dark place I was in. I said, if they go out there and kinda recharged, but then you have to actually go out and do it. And since that time, you know, I it's been amazing. What's come my way? Nothing was planned. It was just a way for me to kind of clear, my mind and get some piece back in my life and get a direction. And you know, I got four mountains into it. I was down in that can Caguan nineteen thousand five hundred feet and I decided to start broadcast my journey, and, you know, I look at that now it's two years later, and I've got three hundred fifty thousand people that followed these different social channels, and I started podcast, funding, your summit, all about people overcoming adversity funnier way that the gifts that I've been given back in terms of what people, you know, have told me like how how they've gotten over it has turned into nealer in courts. Never thought about my life and you know, public speak around the country. And so. You know, it's just been it's just been amazing to, to the apart of, of this, and, and all the gifts of come my way, what do you have on your bucket list that you haven't done yet? Well, gosh, you know, obviously ever since out there. I'm not gonna stop there at loved to join the explorers grand slam, which is skiing to the north and south pole and that love to climb off fifty the highest bounds in each state of redone for the hardest one. So they're off the list. And you know what a great way to get out there. But, you know, I think for anybody who's looking to get up the sideline back to Milan the life, you know this matter what your goal you don't necessarily climb out Everest, and did the seven summits. But just, you know, putting a goal going to different strategies of getting to where you wanna be in life. It's so satisfied, and, and the things that can come to you, as a result, you know, can be things that you would have never imagined. Mark. I wanna thank you very much for joining us. It's been fascinating to hear you talk about not only your career, but also your post career as well. You are welcome here anytime come back and join us again love to do it. Thank you so much again. Mark, pat. 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Well, I'll tell you, first of all, I appreciate being on your show. And you know you talked about what a jolt was going from the university of Washington, Dante football down to the raiders, and, you know, it was like a complete zoo down there, and the fun time my life, I can say, for sure. But, you know, like a lot of guys once you get them playing you kinda go up that clip. And you know you really try to return that energy on what you're going to do. And, you know last, you know, many years now I've been involved business about seven years ago is going through Tom dad died of a stroke. And my was going through a tough time in terms of a separation was lead to a divorce with my long-time spouse. And so I was not a bad spot. It was fun to be me and, and then about two years after that, just really feeling sorry for myself and feeling like I was the victim. I decided to do something about it. And I did. And I just really. Kevin my energy and I said, what am I gonna do about it? And I set my said it's doing something phenomenal. Great not just, you know, like ten K or something. And so I decided to become the first NFL player to become the seven summits, and, you know, it's just amazing that happened seven years ago. And, you know, I you know. Gone through these trials and tribulations and these challenges and everything else. But literally seven days ago, just got back from in Artika. My six about mountain called Vinson massif and was able to scale that take the top down moving my sites on mount. Everest coming up in March twenty twenty let me backtrack just a second here. You know, when you come out of college, you have some preparation for the NFL, but when you leave professional sports in the NFL, nothing really prepares you for I wanna say, retirement or not playing professional sports. What is that is that a really abrupt change for athletes? It is. And, you know, I, I don't know of any other occupation if that's what you wanna call it where you literally one day to say, hey, you can't do this anymore. Right. And I would love to be graceful enough to say that I retired from the sport, which I guess, technically I did. But the reality is got throwing out and I you know, I, I had my time I played five years, and, you know, between that and playing competitively at the very top of the college ranks at the university of Washington at that time, you know, ten years of, of just going hard at it, you know, I started this journey when it was in third grade. And so again rechanneling that whole energy on what you're gonna do. Fortunately, you know, I ultimately found business and, and that worked. But, you know, just really never gave me that same thrill that same rush that did. And I just really had to deal with that get over it. I know that Don James was all business as far as the coach goes. And then when you get drafted, I think it was the seventh round and you go to the raiders it with. It was like a zoo down there. How did you deal with that? Well, you know, fortunately playing in the Pac tin. Those days of the pack twelve I was fortunate to play against with a lot of phenomenal players that would go on and play, you know, in the NFL for a long time. So I was used the plane at a very high level, which gave me the confidence, I played five years up there, Richard a year, and it really helped me in terms of my development in. So when I went to the combines, and went through those processes that you do in terms of the evaluation of where you're gonna fit in the draft slot. You know, I, I had a certain confidence that, that I could play I could compete. And when I get drafted, you know, lot of it right between the ears. And I just, you know, was looking around the room and I knew that, you know, it's like a real live version of American idol of, you know, every week someone's going to get cut and I was just, like I don't know who that's going to be. But it's not gonna be me and. And so, you know, it was through throw cons of different being there being cut being brought back, you know, all the things that you grow through. But it really builds your mind, you know, when you just they're so resilient nothing. That happens is gonna make you give up acquit quit bring up a very good point when you're drafted if you're drafted in the first round, it's different from being drafted in the seventh round. And also the business, it self is what have you done for me lately? How does an athlete really prepare for something like that? When that's not been the case, if you're at Washington, unless you lose your scholarship your back next year next year next year. Well, I think, you know, the one thing that's worth for me and serve me, well to in the mountains is that I really believe that order had a strong mind, you gotta have a star body. And so the, the thing that I always try to focus on is what can I do for myself and don't worry about everybody else? And the biggest thing I could do is work out harder, be stronger be faster. Run more stairs. No plays. No, all my sign, that's and that really served me well in top, because it was amazing. How many guys that I think had more talent than I did. But because they screwed up in school because they, you know, got caught in drug test or they blew their knee out or something. You know, it's just like next thing you know you're standing there and he may not be necessarily the best player in the locker room but you're the most consistent player and you bring that same energy every single day. And, and that's coaches need to rely on when you know they're they're tails on the line. And so that. Again that serve me. Well, both in the NFL, and I think it's really served me, well, in terms of not giving up and persevering when it gets super cold and all these other things, I'm doing in the mountains though you played with Jim Plunkett, Marcus Allen Lyle AL's, eight oh, how long all great names. What's the commonality of all those guys in great players? You know, all those guys you just mentioned were I mean, what a joy to play, what each one of those guys was their own individual person, you know, characters in their own way. I mean, L Jada was completely different from Howie long who's different from Plunkett. You know, and the one thing that, that the raiders had those days was well, there, you know, collection of these kinda crazy individuals they really knew in value, the whole concept of team. And when I got down there, you know is fun because, you know, from guy coming from the Don James very disciplined, school of football. You know, they would have competitor nights, and, you know, they would take me out and plug it in particular took me under his wing. And you know he. I had a lot of late nights to Plunkett and you know, I got some good stories about him. And what he promised in the what I offer to throw the ball and you know, I was delivered, and he, he felt through on that. But, you know, just what great talent and you know, to be surrounded by Marcus Allen. You know, Heisman Trophy, Tim Plunkett Heisman? Kofi envy. You know, I don't know. And I am here in San Francisco. And I've been around the raiders. For a number of years. And so I know a lot of the stories about the raiders players. I don't know that there's another team in professional football that had. The type of characters that you were talking about there was one player getting well, he was talking about Mark van. At that time. What's your favorite story about the raiders when you were with them, God, there's so many? But, you know, I think that they were in, in grade school, maybe there. Playing you know on the football field. But I know that when we went down for first minicab who's in the spring, all the veterans. With air and so two years ago, the raiders have been in the Super Bowl at seen. All these guys run out to the. To the huddle plunk. It's the quarterback clip branches. The other receiver Marcus at the running back, cock. Chris tied in whole collection of hall of famers. On the offense align, Plunkett goes to call the signals. Ada, my canes. You know, the list went on, on all these, you know, NFL greats and I said myself before, Plunkett. Neff that ball if I ever die. This is what heaven would be like. Organization was that influence like from a player's perspective. Well, I mean look when when he was there. Harry, there was no question. He was the dominant force of that organization. Hughes out practice every day who's wearing white jumped driven. One minded only thing he he he he thought about some as dress. Ms Carter, MS rugs in hotels to his everything was about the cell room blocks every single. Okay. No. The guy new football and he was very intensive. Very impassioned about it. And it's yeah. Was great to be around, you know, somebody that intense Mark Patterson is with us. Former wide receiver. Played for the raiders the Rams and the saints after his playing career was over he decided to take up mountain. Ports. Byline. I've recently discovered the powerful health benefits of CB deal. For people like me. I want the health benefits of cannabinoid but I don't smoke weed. I never will smoke weed mind altering effects. I do not need. CBD is nontoxic has potent pain relieving and his anthem on the market. One hundred percent organic highly concentrated. No additives, grown in the US. The only ingredient is ham. It is pure and simple, Goto new leave naturals dot com. That's N you leave. Now. Tyrrell's dot com, promo code rank. 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Is important, but certainly not at the top of the list when it comes to putting together a winning group. How do you get people to come together to mess, too? Shout at one of the dynamics of doing this in sports as compared to just doing it. Overall life with any organization. Well, I think sports gives you a picture of things happen. Fast. Things that can happen in season on a football saying, sometimes take and you, you, you hit. Although the pendulum swings. So it it's kind of nice to be able to take the principles that. You have to play out on on that letting field. And so, you know what these work? Grocery store, as you're trying to put together the best grocery store possible. So I think they're universal concepts that definitely fit in anywhere. You have a beautiful view of this having been a player. The NFL more than forty years around football, and professional football suss gave of all the years that you've watched. Football. What is it that amazes, you the most about the teamwork and the performance? Irma's of teams in pro football. I think that the real talent is we went nine and five yet knocked. Out of the playoffs. The first round the next year would Virk. The same people. We were fourteen and two and maybe the best thing, the best thing I've ever seen. And so, what's the difference attitude? It's working together. It's the dynamics of the group we had seventeen I had seven teams in atlas are Super Bowl team was probably number five. Maybe number four in terms of talent. But in terms of being together, not giving up ready to face. Adversity holding these other lifting each other up number one by far. And that's, that's the reason we won one of the things that I have always said that leadership in my opinion, having watched a various teams most notably the forty Niners when any DeBartolo own the team that the leadership, did not come from Bill Walsh, did not come from out of the front office. It came out of the locker room and I'm talking about people like Ronnie Lott and others. Like that, when you look at a team is that dynamic of leadership, probably the most import. Thing it is, and it starts at the top, and the top of the organization has to set the tone, and then they have to empower everybody else along the way to become leaders. And I learned that in Pittsburgh, you mentioned that I played on, Eddie Davar lows first thing, the wall, says, I two thousand or we were to fourteen. Nineteen seventy nine but you could see the groundwork being laid, I got the Pittsburgh, and you could see are ruining senior. Dan, Rooney, Chuck knoll just the way they ran things. And it did. We had players were great leaders, but that's because they encourage it they embraced it. They built it, they chose people who were leaders and they weren't afraid to let the group lead because they knew they had instilled such a template out there that we were going to follow their lead. They weren't worried about us going in a different direction. And that's when, when it's beautiful Tony Dungy is with us on sports, by want you to check out this book. It's a great book, and they'll give you a good road map on Hannah live your life. And also, if you're in a company or leading company, how to build it. It's called the soul of team a modern day fable for winning teamwork. This football fable lays out four essential principles that are practiced by truly effective teams. What are they? Yeah. That's the sole comes from his selflessness. And you know, we're not built that way as people. We are selfish from a human standpoint survival that instinct, God is putting us as their so how do you get people to come together and say, you know, we're gonna work together. We're going to be on selfish. I'm gonna give up myself so that this team can Flers the O is we call it owning your role and on entertained, they're going to be a number of roles. Some of them are glamorous the quarterback on the team, the star player though. Those are glamorous roles but the quarterback cannot win by himself. He can't do it without the quality control coast. It's doing the research without the special teams player who's going down and covering kicks and giving you good field position. And so if you get caught up in well, I don't like my role or my roles not big enough, or I'm. I'm not comfortable in my role. You're not gonna flourish. The U is unity and again, sports teams are really microcosm of that. You, you give fifty three players from all different kinds of backgrounds, and you got Republicans and Democrats, and small school, big schools city country, black white. Now how you gonna put all that together and say, we, we've got differences. We're not the same, but we're going to be unified, and we're, we're going after this goal of a Super Bowl championship. And whatever we have to do our personal beliefs. We're still going to have them, but we're going to be under one banner to try to get this thing done. Well the way you do that. I think is the hell you have to have a larger purpose. It can't be just having to make the most money. I can I want to get the most claim I wanna be an all pro. He can't even be just we wanna win. We wanna win. In four or five Sam are Steelers team. I'm never forget, when you were rookie and you made the team Mr. Rooney, the owner would come and talk to you and say, congratulations. You're gonna get a lot of benefits being on this team fans are going to come out all kinds of weather. They're gonna buy your surveys. They're gonna wave towels they're going to cheer for you. It's that type of environment, but you are they're invested in you. And you are representing not only football team not only our family, but you're representing the city and your Pittsburgh Steeler now and that has to mean something and we did feel that when we went out on the field we felt we were representing the city of Pittsburgh, and it made a difference in and there's no question in my mind that helped play at a high level. Yes, we wanted to win and it was important to us. But we we had a connection with with the fans. And with the people of Pittsburgh. I really liked the way you. Laid out this book, because you're dealing with the fictional NFL team, the Orlando vipers and are a team that's looking for a turnaround. This story really dentist. Some of the most common issues that hold a team back. What are they? Yeah. You've got a team that the owner. Thanks. We're pretty talented. We've got a good coach. We drafted well and we just can't get over the hump we're close, but we're not winning what's wrong? And he's, he's tempted to clean house and start over again. And he asked for me to come in and kinda help them to be a consultant. Tell them, you know what is the problem? And so we kind of look at it from offensive. What a lot of people do what a lot of teams do they fire the coach, they start over the greed Bill get new players, and they're in the same boat again. And oftentimes, it's really just something that makes the click, and then you have the same people able to do more than they thought they could ever do. How does that happen? And we. Walk through that with the owner and the head coach and some of the leadership on the team and really talk to them about what they can do and how they can get on board and yeah. The owner has an impact on how the team is gonna play just by some of the decisions he makes that rookie special teams player who doesn't think he's got a prominent role. He ends up understanding that, you know, my job is important, and I can make a difference, even though I'm not playing much as a quarterback. I'm not handling the ball much and the people who are support staff understand that the way they do their job impacts. How many fans are there what the fans think about the team and the excitement in the stadium and all that goes into helping team win? So we kinda paint the picture that everyone has a role in, if they own their role, and they excel their role, and they had the unity that it takes. That's how the team succeeds. Let me switch gears for. Just a moment you jumped into television and for the moment you were on TV with NBC I really was impressed. How you made that transition. It's not always an easy thing because I know the technical things that go on where people are talking into your ear, but you were able to do it. How did you approach that challenge? I wanted to. Thought my role at NBC was to help fans understand the game more. And so that's what I wanted to do. And see how I could be the best at helping people understand the nuances of the game point out little things that they might not see as, as a normal fan. And we, we've got a great same at NBC. And we've got people are technical people are cameramen offend tastic, our directors are research people. And so I felt like I was representing them and the, the fans the viewer see me, but they don't see all the people that, that have behind me. So, so I had a responsibility to big the best I could every week to do my job really well. And when everybody feels that way, then you have a great show and the toughest thing for me was to, to understand that I had to be honest, and there's a way that you can be honest without Vasan people without been negative. You don't have to say. Say everything is bad or terrible. But you do have to point out if someone makes them a stake in my opinion could have been done this way. This was something that really hurt this team. And so just being audible. I honest and having some credibility, and trying to point out little things that, that's how I grew into the job. Well, help me understand Super Bowl fifty three mismatch. Yup. I think it's going to be a great one. I think you've got team in New England. That is very experienced. I've been to a bunch of Super Bowl their coach knows how to manage this week. And that's one of the big things Super Bowl week. I found out as a head coach you want your players to enjoy the week to, to take in everything in Atlanta to know we may not get back. So enjoy the process. But you've gotta stay focus. How do you walk that fine line? Bill Belichick the master that he'll, he'll do that saw McVeigh. This is first time he's got a young those ethic energetic team. How does he balance that and do that? And then once you hit the field knowing land is fantastic at coming up with different game plans, what you saw them. Do two weeks ago that they're not going to do in the Super Bowl, so they tend to get the advantage. They jump out on people early three points. Six points up and now you've got a death. Oh, this is what they're doing now. What do we do to counteract that? And I think the game's gonna play out that way. Can the Rams make those adjustments quick enough to to get back in the game in the second half. And then I think you've got the, the master the veteran quarterback Tom Brady, who is probably in the fourth quarter gonna make the pivotal place where the young quarterback for the Rams. Jared Goff his first rodeo. We'll see what happens. We got about forty five seconds left. But tony. What should the Rams not do being in a game of this stature with the young coach young quarterback? You can't leave what what do you got to be yourself? And you've got to try to make it seem like. Just any other game. It's hard to do that. You've been there all week, you saying the Bill out, you know, the patriots legacy, but go out and play your game do what got there and you'll be in good safe. Tony, I wanna thank you. You know our conversations over the years have always been so instructive. And I've heard even when I've been over in Iraq and Afghanistan soldiers. Tell me how much they've enjoyed our chats and everything, and I wanna thank you for writing this book, because it's an excellent book. A lot of people will get a lot out of it. But you are welcome here. Anytime. Take care, my friend, what around and thanks for what you do for those servicemen that the great, great less than all of us, how we can serve. Okay. Take care. Tony. Thank you. Tony Dungy NFL hall of fame coach and former player who was a head coach for thirteen seasons in the league six with Tampa Bay seven with the colts. He wants Super Bowl forty one with the colts when he was a head coach and one Super Bowl thirteen as a player with the Steelers and he was the first African American head coach to win a Super Bowl. You seem on television with football night in America, NBC, and he has a brand new book out check this book out, it'll give you some great insights into not only football teamwork. The soul of team a modern day fable for teamwork. We've got you on sports by lot. Rebuild to replace transmission thirty two hundred dollars and I brake system, a thousand dollars to replace engine twenty four hundred dollars through this once you're manufacturer's warranty runs out. It's all on you every last cent. Get protection for covered repairs with a vehicle service contract from Toko warranty. Unlike other companies, with Toco there's no down payment and the monthly payments are really affordable. Not sure how long you're keeping your car at Toko you can pay as you go. 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I've only found him inciteful certainly smart hall of fame coach, former player was the head coach for thirteen seasons in the lake six with dampers seven with the colts. And of course he won a Super Bowl championship as the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts. You may want to check out his book. It's called the soul of team a modern day fable for teamwork. And also with us Mark Patterson, former wide receiver he played for the raiders Rams in Saint, and he played college football at the university of Washington. He was drafted by the raiders. And he has a book out. Listen to this title, life after football has been a journey and for him, it certainly has been stick around. We got more coming your way as we move to father day on Sunday. We'll share with you. Our interview with Marty, and Thom Brennaman broadcasters. I'm Ron bar. Good. Have you with us on American sports talk show? 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This one belongs to the reds, and he broke into radio play by play with Virginia Squires of the American Basketball Association got his first job as far as a radio play by play announcer in the minor leagues with the Nafi tides, and then a nineteen seventy four he jumped up to the major leagues replacing almighty goes as Cincinnati Reds play by play announcer. He has done. Many sports also called many of the great moments in sports. And now he is teamed with his son doing the radio and television for the Cincinnati Reds Thom Brennaman. Of course, you know, Ewing foxsports NFL football broadcasts. And major league baseball broadcasts as well. A very talented sports caster in his own. Right. So we're going to be talking with father and son broadcasters. Marty Brennaman and Thom Brennaman this hour as we continue on sports byline. You'll do it right. To grow fest, garden came lows. 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And of course, we think a jacket Joe buck, but you have to add to that list, Marty Brennaman and his son. Thom Brennaman Marta courts longtime radio voice of the Cincinnati Reds in nineteen seventy he received his first job as a play by play announcer for the Virginia Squires of the American Basketball Association in seventy one he began his career as baseball announcer for the Norfolk tides, and also in nineteen seventy four he was selected among two hundred applicants to succeed Michaels as Cincinnati Reds play by play announcer on wwl w radio, he has won the hall of fame. Ford c Frick award for his contributions to baseball and Marty Brennaman joins us on sports, byline mardi when I take a look at your career. I know it started back in North Carolina. Tell me a little bit about the early days of Marty Brennaman in sports broadcasting. Well, I. That's a good question, Ron. I went to the university of North Carolina Chapel Hill to get up communications degree. And when I got out of school, I was married to kids and top being one of them. And I got a job in television in high point North Carolina 'cause I couldn't find a radio job in six months after that I got a radio job in a small radio station, wwl, radio and Salisbury, North Carolina between Charlotte, and Greensboro, and two greatest thing ever happened to me because I did small college football and basketball Kotov, a college Livingstone college, I did American Legion baseball, which is first baseball play by play. I ever did. And I worked there for five years, and they got the job to go to the Norfolk Virginia and do the Virginia Squires, who had moved out of Washington DC. And then as you mentioned, I did triple A baseball for the tides for three years before I got the chance to succeed. Alan come to Cincinnati. You know, when you take a look at those early days is there anything that has been? Carryover throughout your entire career that you can think has been part of the foundation of Marty Brennaman broadcasting career for all the success. You've had Marnie. Well, I think it biggest thing and Tom used to talk about all the time because had a very quick rise to the big leagues with a limited amount of experience in my case. You know, I got a chance to go to a small town and Salisbury and and, and tried to improve upon my craft without any any great wrec as much play by play sports. Football, basketball and baseball as I possibly could. Do. And when the chance came for me to move up to do the ABA with Julius Irving and George Gervin, Charlie Scott and the. To, to move up quicker, as, as Tom and Joe buck, did I would have gone. The route that I did. Because I think the foundation, I got from working, and small town radio was best thing that could have ever happened to me. That job with Virginia Squires you work with a friend of mine, I believe Al on key. Learned so much from him. In fact, I was talking with somebody about him the other day, I've, I've not seen Allen, probably ten years, or more. And I asked it periodically. I saw Dan is so short time. Go and ask Dan, if he ever cross paths with Al, and he'd memories of Albuquerque. You know, when you think about the mechanics of doing basketball and think about the mechanics of doing baseball compare for me for. Just a moment. Marty about the challenges of each because one, you've got bang, bang type of action. That would be the basketball. The other. Of course, you've got a lot of down-time in baseball telling me about developing your talents in each of those. Winding up and hockey would fall, although I've never done it, but it would be it would be a parallel winding up a wind up toy and. And and joining him loose at seven thirty. When the ball went in the air eight o'clock. Pure art form that there is in play by play sports, because nothing happens until the pitcher throws the ball. And if you can't have live. Ad-lib cogently then you can't do baseball. It's amazing. I've had college coaches say to me, you got the easy. Job in the world. I said, why the because you're sitting up there. I wanna see you handle that play it. I'd let one coach do that. And when it was finished he was drenched in s-, and I for Asian, and he said. Give me that's hardest thing I've ever had to do. I think physically basketball. I'm sure hockey takes it out of you more. But I think baseball is the toughest. Born of all, if you're gonna do it. Well, there's something romantic, and there's something special about minor league baseball that maybe. Been lost, especially with the money at the major league level. Would you agree with me that at one hundred ten percent? And I was fortunate I when I say fortunate when I hear about guys at worked in the bushes, so to speak and. The most far we flew everywhere unless you've going between Richmond and Norfolk. But I truly believe that. For my money, the best guys that, that come out of that enter. I pushed like the dickens anytime I get a chance to, to give a young guy. Chance to work at the big league level. If he's if he's paid the price of working in the minor leagues. I've been. Gong opponent over the years. Five to be baseball broadcaster. I'm totally opposed to that as opposed to giving a young guy a chance to spend five or ten or fifteen. You know, more years honing his skills, working minor league baseball. I my money, that's where it all starts, and that's working. The minor league level. I mentioned about nineteen sector was for why they picked you for my money because I worked from the rest of them. You know, they got down to three broadcasters and the two that I was competing against knowingly guys were already major league baseball broadcasters. A one of them was number one. Announcer. But then at that point, when I got the job. Bob. And, and in retrospect, I really felt as I look back on your giving out Michael's. The chance bringing him out of Hawaii, where he was doing the islanders games and giving him. Chance and it work. Well then, and they felt like they could do it again. And bringing the guy mom really felt that what Al did pave the way for me to get particularly. 'cause they were so successful with bringing him out of the minor leagues. You're hiring paired you with a former reds pitcher Joe nuxhall. Aw. And I'm just wondering what your first impression was of him when you got into the broadcast booth. Well, funny thing is that a photography studio in Dayton, Ohio. Because we're gonna take some, you know, take some pictures for glossy print. It's a Joe and together and and Joe and I say fall card collector at one time and out of that was born a relationship. That, right. I can't even begin to describe in words, how close Al close Joe and I. Where we worked thirty one years together as far as major league baseball. Broadcasting is concerned and the first game that we ever. Regular season was against the Atlanta Braves opening day nineteen seventy four. In the top of the first inning of the first gain I ever broadcast. What the hell do you do for an encore? And I said, you know what? I don't know. I don't know. But we had the relationship that we had, we were closer than brothers. I I was blessed with working. For him, working with them for thirty one years, because I learned so much from him that so much respect and love for him. That it was just a very, very special relationship. And as I said, I was blessed to have been able to sit next to him for hundred and sixty two games over thirty one years. Marnie. Brought you on America's sports talk show sports. Byline. It has been said that everyone has a book in them. But you have the time or the ability. 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That's eight hundred five nine three seven four nine one eight hundred five nine three seven four nine one call now. This is America sports, talk show sports byline USA. Here's ron. Brennaman has joined us on sports, byline USA, the longtime radio voice of the Cincinnati Reds. And we were talking about his broadcasting partner for thirty one years, Joe nuxhall. But it was the second game with the Cincinnati Reds that you came up with your famous phrase, and this one belongs to the reds was that something that just came natural or how did it come about mardi. Well, you know, the people have the others have written it was the second game. I don't I don't know. Precisely one it was, I think it was in the first couple of weeks of the season. And the club was playing at home. I don't even remember who is against. But David Concepcion, of course, was the shortstop that club part of big red machine and it was in the bottom of the night. So the bottom of an extra in and he got a base it to win the game. And it just came out. I mean it was not. It was not planned. It was not preconceived. There was nothing planned at all. All by the phrase, it was just spontaneous. And as I was driving home that night from the ballpark. I reflected back upon it and thought you know what that might not be a bad way to end every game that they win. And you know, it's something that has stood me in very good stead, but not nearly wooded have had the impact that it did had been with the club that did not win with great regularity and obviously in seventy four they finished second to the dodgers. And then they wanted all seventy five and seventy six so I've said a lot and the only mistake I made was not getting copyrighted. We're done it at the time but I didn't. But I if if Marty Brennaman has any kind of legacy when my career ends, it'll be something that probably will include that phrase after each reds win and some of the highlights Marty's broadcasting. Career include Hank Aaron's record, tying seven hundred fourteenth career home run, and seventy four. Pete Rose's four thousand one hundred ninety second career, hidden eighty five time Browning's perfect game in eighty eight Ken Griffey's five hundred career home run in two thousand four and six hundred in two thousand eight. And of course, you were behind the mic for the reds World Series victories, and seventy five seventy six and nineteen ninety you know when somebody has been associated with so many great moments and longtime broadcasters certainly have been. I'm just wondering, mardi. Have you ever sat back and thought about how much you've been a part of and what do those moments? Mead Tamari Brennaman having called them. Well, you know, as, as you should I, I've been, I've been privileged and blessed to be a part of or to watch great ball clubs. I know this forty news recently had an anniversary issue. And then they selected the seventy five wrenches a second greatest team of all time second only the twenty seven Yankees, and then the nineteen ninety club with very lark. Eric Davis, and, and that bunch and won the World Series being Pittsburgh in the playoffs in Oakland four straight in the World Series, and then the Griffey home runs, and I've been a part of great events. I've been a part of great clubs of an associated with great players I been truly blessed. Excuse me. I never would I have dreamed one that incoming Cincinnati nineteen seventy four I the entering my thirty nights season in two thousand twelve. And the other part of it was to have been apart of excuse me. Great clubs and great players as I have been in truly the greatest place that I've ever lived born and raised in the south, but coming in the mid west as I did in nineteen seventy four and if I could have chosen a career and a route a path in which I would have taken. I couldn't have picked a better way to go than the way I've gone. I think you know as well as I do Marty. It's always tough to follow in the footsteps of a of a father, who has been successful in the creek case of Tom. He certainly has followed in your footsteps in two thousand six the reds rehired him to join you in the broadcast booth as well as do play by play on the television starting in the two thousand seven season. I'm just wondering as he was coming up, and he's talked me a little bit about the, the early growing up years and being around you and everything. What did you think about him possibly following in your footsteps or? Doing the same thing that, that you were doing right ever thought about it. You know, I, I've, I've been witness to fathers who put pressure on their kids to follow in their footsteps, and, and, and oftentimes, it's something that has backfired because the youngsters done at unwillingly and it didn't work out. And so I made I made a decision many, many, many years ago when Tom was you on that. I would never put a pressure any pressure on him or his daughter, or sister, dawn, or my youngest daughter Ashley to put any pressure on them to, to do whatever they, they could do whatever they wanted to do and during times junior year in college. He one day, matter of factly said to me, I think I wanna do what you do. And I said, that's great. Never having any idea that he had the talent that he obviously has and has just added current incredible career a career that really is brought us even closer and closer and closer together because, you know, we had a common bond, and the one thing I determined after he decided to get into this business. And that I realized that he had an incredible amount of talent. And after toot for it was the fact that excuse me, I would never ever offer any criticism unless he asked for it. And there've been you know, I it's in it's amazing. And it's it's, it's really hard warming to me that now when he doesn't NFL football game for FOX if he doesn't call me after the game before he comes home or he'll call me the next day. And he said, you got a chance to see the game. Yes. Would you think and I will offer by opinion? I'm. Thrilled to death that he's had the success that he's had. But the most important thing about it all is that even though he's had an incredible about success, locally and nationally. He's a hell of a guy. I mean he is a truly good person who is respectful of other people who has never gotten the big head over the success of these had in this broadcast business. And that's probably the thing more proud of that. He's a good person on top of the fact that he's a heck of a good broadcaster, I asked him, mardi when he thought, though, was probably the, the groundwork for your success. And he said his passion and his honesty. And I said, well, what's it like to work in the broadcast booth with him when you're both doing a game? He says, well, I always drop by about thirty minutes early and throw out something that I know we'll get him riled up. Let me tell you some. He could not tell you anything tour because he, he can push my hot button, better than anybody, I've ever been around. And I know he's doing it. But I can't help myself we have the kind of relationship that are this, basically, like a couple of brothers is opposed to father in the son, and you'll come into the radio. He's right. You'll come into the radio booth about thirty twenty five thirty minutes before the game. And he'll say something to get me going and I realize what he's doing. I can't help myself and then the only leaves I'll tell him you know what. Nobody's going to be listening to and thing you people say on TV tonight because they're going to be listening to us on the radio and watching television. So we, we have it's an increase, I would hope that every father and son had the kind of relationship that Tom and I have because it special. My only son. He's a great success in the business been fortunate enough in plus enough to be in all these years, going back in nineteen sixty five and in nobody's, nobody's happy for this success. He's than I am. We got about ninety seconds left Marty. But have you thought about the fact that you and Tom broadcasters of the Cincinnati Reds, which is one of those storied franchises in major league baseball that you're kind of the keeper of the legacy that it's really important for you and all the fans that follow baseball, and particularly the reds that you are able to give them a feel for the legacy. And also the love of the game, do you get that sense when you're doing a broadcasting game? I don't know that I think about that run. I do when I'm in a in a reflective type of mood. I'm just thankful that, that he's in this town. And, and this is a place that he's wanted to be more than anywhere else in Chicago. He was in Zona, but he's the Cincinnati guy on throw the being able to come back home and work in this town. I think he'll be broadcasting reg baseball long after I'm gone and the legacy of father and son. That's the thing that I'm really, really proud of because he thought enough of my industry to decide that this is what he wanted to do for a career. Also in about forty five seconds. I'd be amiss, if I didn't ask you for your thoughts and remembrances of the late sparky Anderson. Well, it was special. He was one of my dear friends and wife, I, I could talk forever about what he meant to me enjoying Saul with the two. Most important factors in my early years in Cincinnati he was. Just a special person who had no ego had great success, who loved everybody and everybody loved him. And he'll be remembered for many, many, many years after since he's passed away because of the goodness of the person that we're talking about Marnie. I wanna thank you very much for talking about your fine career, but also about your find son as well. He is a gentleman. And he is also a fine professional broadcaster following in the footsteps of his professional father Marty. Thanks, a lot for joining us on sports byline. Why pleasure? Thanks very much. Marty Brennaman the longtime radio voice of the Cincinnati Reds. And again that famous catchphrase and this one belongs to the reds. He began his broadcasting career down in North Carolina. When we come back on the other side, his son Thom Brennaman is going to join us. Tom, of course, outstanding broadcaster for the Fox Sports network doing baseball and NFL football. 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And is also a sports caster a very successful one for the Fox Sports network doing NFL football and major league baseball, also does basketball college football and as a TV and radio. Up. Did you realize what your dad did for a living? Realized very early on what he did for a living when he was broadcast in minor league baseball. I'd have. Chance when we were living in Norfolk. Virginia news broadcast in the Tidewater tides games I go with him on a semi regular basis, not all the time because I was very very. Dog? I'd get a chance to go to the ballpark from time to time and Asian. That's why team had Julius Irving George Gervin and Charlie Scott on the same team. And I had a chance to actually be a ballboy for the visiting teams that would come into play the Squires. I think that's where it sort of really opened by Tom. You know, I think having a chance to be around so many. What turn out to be some of the biggest names in sports history as a very young man? You know whether. It was Tom chance to get the Cincinnati Reds. Job sparky. Anderson would go into the office on a regular basis while my dad would do the pre game show. Go with him. Pete Rose, Johnny bench. Joe morgan. I knew all these guys on a first name basis. Ron when I was ten eleven twelve years old. And I think the one thing that carried. Over more than anything, is I saw, as such a. You say about, you know they put their pants on one leg at a time. So as I was able to move forward. My broadcasting career, I think one thing that's really helped is I've never been and this, I've never been jealous. That's for sure. But I've never been just all struck by them. And I think a lot of ways it's helping. My relationships with the players in the managers as time has gone by my career. What was it that struck? You about the way your dad prepared in his style. Presentation that kind of still kinda know all the broadcasters of all the major league baseball teams through the years. Baseball on radio is. Is sort of the gold standard. If you will of all professional sports broadcast. Generally the guys who do the baseball, maybe there's one or two other guys. I'm not sure I know their names, but. I don't know if anybody's ever told it like it is more than my dad does. And I think that's one thing I've always very much admired about him. It's got him into. Water, not necessarily with management because he'd been extreme. Really blessed some of the things that he said about his own team through the years. So I think that may be more than anything else. But I'll tell you what. Well, he's a mighty good announcer. You know, for guys like me. You're still trying to work. You know my way up in easy for a lot of guys. To get bored with, especially if you're broadcasting for a team, and maybe as an avenue Goodyear. I still don't think there's anybody right now today. On a major league baseball game on the radio that says equal early do radio. But the people that do. Radio can usually make that transition to television. You've been able to do both very successfully. What is the magic of being able to do both because the skill set is different. Tom. I think you just got to remember where you are Ron. You know, I it's easy for me to say because I've had the opportunity to do both. Chance to do the radio, I've been so fortunate to have a chance to really do a little bit of both even now. And so, I think. It's more of the case just remembering where you are on the radio park. What's the ballpark look like what stadium? Look like what's the outfield dimensions look like what are the colors of the uniform, what's count, who's on? How many out all those things come? Meanwhile, are pretty much. Dan on television. I think you have to be smart enough to realize that it is an analyst driven game baseball football all of them. And so you're extremely fortunate. And Lord knows I have then. To work with some of the best analyst that there have been in the history of television. You know, whether you're talking about Tim macarbre worked a lot of games with him. Bob RAs, very dynamic guy. And, you know football about a chance to work with Brian. Kelly. For a number of years. He's very much up and coming guy for eightman an urban other. So when you got when you've got a partner who you know. Can carry the ball. The best piece of advice at Tom that you're. Dad mardi gave you as far as broadcasting advice. I think you have to be who you are, and not try to be somebody else. You know, some guys personality. Different than matter. What walk titan on the edge? And there are guys who, like laugh like fun. Who are? Very passionate people, I would certainly consider myself to be a very passionate guy. You know, at times, I've been heavily criticized for perhaps being too passionate about. But you know what? That's who I am. And so, you know, I like to think that there are times where you may be clean played the language a little bit. But, you know, somebody could maybe sit next. To next beta bar and have a beer and, and maybe close to. Did the same guy that they're, they're watching on TV you? You're both working the game. Tell me what that atmosphere is, like, Tom, or my dad is a very Iran. You. My dad for many, many years. And, you know, he's he's a very loud. Noxious guy. Who loves to laugh and, and I carry on, and whole court, so to speak. And so, you know, I, I often you know, hear it from other people that have worked with him for years, or, or some that have just worked with him for the last number of years. You know, I'm able to. Hey, something that I know is going to get him fired up which, you know, we'll send him off the deep end in a funny showmanship sort of way. And, and I think those are the best times I just I make an appointment when I'm doing a game on television and he's doing the game on radio. You know we'll have dinner together every night before the game. But I'll always make it a point about half an hour forty five minutes before the game just to go in the booth and have a good fifteen. Twenty minutes of just finding a way to sort of pride him a little bit and find out what happened has sort of worked up on that particular day, and I'll hit the right button, and the force out turn around and walk out the door. Let's talk about capturing the moment. Your dad certainly has been associated with a lot of great moments in baseball, including Hank Aaron's record tying seven hundred and fourteenth career home run back in nineteen seventy four and capturing. The moment is something always a challenge. I think for most broadcasters. How do you approach at Tom? I don't know if there's a -sarily a planned or, you know, sort of stock answer to approaching the big moment. Again, I think you have to be very aware of sort of what's going on oftentimes, the crowd is, is just the thing that, that you've gotta let ride you know, big pitches in a game downs in the game on a third down. You get near the final minute. You know, you gotta understand sort of where everything is at that particular point in time. But then there are times you really have to deliver a call. You know, I think back to some of the ones that I've heard, you know, some people might like him some people might not like them, but, you know, Derrick jeeter play in the division series where, you know the ball trickles through. And he picks up and flips it to the catcher to get the runner out in the division series out in Oakland, you know, I was fortunate enough to be calling that game on FOX the Boise state Oklahoma game. In the bowl and all took place in the final number of minutes in that game, they're just moments where you don't need to say anything in their moments where, you know, you, you hope and you pray that you've kinda got the right call and it's power pack call to liberate when it needs it, and then you can shut up and let the crowd sick. I was gonna ask you whether anticipation is an important aspect of calling a key play one. That's a surprising play, and also maybe just pausing beat to be able to assimilate. What is happened out on the field, so that you make the correct call or you do you know, and I, one of the one of the things I've tried to learn through the years Ron because I, I tend to jump things quick. And, you know, when you jump them and you hit them, right? You know. You know looks pretty good when you jump them and you hit them wrong. You really look that. And Lord knows I've done my fair share of both through the years. I recall you know looking back now and, and, you know, one of the one of the, the moments in my career that you really wish you could take back was doing national championship. Game between Florida and Oklahoma. And I lost track of what down it was. And, you know, I I l- sudden jump on it, it was fourth down and into this big, you know, robust call about Florida's defense. You know, stands tall and stops the Gators drive, and or the Oklahoma drive, and, and there were still fourth down to go, and I use it going. Oh, golly. You know how did that happen? But it happens. I mean, you know, look, you know you make mistakes. You know, I've always been. I've always liked the guys who are out there willing to take the. Chance, you know, and it doesn't end by nature, a very conservative person, whether it be with my lifestyle whether it be with my politics, whether it be by family and the things that the ways I'd like to see them raised. But, but I've always admired ended that the guys in our profession, that are there more the gunslinger kind of guy I if you use that with a broadcaster and, you know, I've fallen prey in probably being one of those to a lesser extent. Not what the giants by any means. I don't wanna make it sound that way. But, you know, I liked that style and it's worked, sometimes it's blown up. Sometimes we have about a minute left, Tom. But when you think back to high university when you join station, WHAT H, and think about where you are what you've accomplished and everything. What means the most Thom Brennaman? I just I just I'm so thankful and so grateful, and thank God for every second. That's happened to be good bad and indifferent. You know, going back to those. As you know, heck, I, I hear movie stars kids, you know, talk about, oh gosh. She was so much pressure and I couldn't get through it. My parents famous, nobody talked to me, you know, my dad had a job that allowed me to be around a lot of situations. And a lot of things a lot of kids dream about, and that held true is very young man. He'll true all the way through high school through college as I was starting my career, and even now and I just looked back, and I'm so grateful for the people who gave me the chance to be in the position. Because ultimately, there are a lot of people that are better announcers, I am and have been for thirty forty fifty seventy eighty years, but they never got the chance. And I'm just forever grateful that those people gave me the chance and I try to remember it, and thank God for one of the things that I think is synonymous with both you. And your dad is the fact that you have a passion for what you do it comes through, and you're broadcast, and I think that's one of the reasons why both of you have been successful as you are. Tom. I wanna thank you very much. For sharing your career and all sheer remembrances about your dad and about being in the broadcast booth together you both of left your Mark on sports, and particularly in sports broadcasting, thanks a lot. Tom. Take care. Thank you. Congratulations. All your success. You've been a good friend for a long, long time. Thom Brennaman with the sportscaster for the Fox Sports network. You see him doing NFL? Football also major league baseball. His dad. Marty brennaman. He shares the broadcast booth with for the Cincinnati Reds game. We continue with more of you and sports. Byline. Rebuild or replace transmission. Thirty two hundred dollars and I love brake system, a thousand dollars replace engine twenty four hundred dollars through this once you're manufacturer's warranty runs out. It's all on you every last cent. Get protection for covered repairs with a vehicle service contract from Toko warranty. 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One of the great adventures when it comes to professional baseball is that time that any players spends down in the minor leagues and Dirk Hayhurst, who is now a pitcher for the Toronto Blue Jays is come up with a book about that experience. It's called bullpen gospels major-league dreams of a minor league veteran and Dirk, I was interested in the page. It says a note from the author, you say I'd like to tell the reader that this book's purpose is to entertain not to name names. Pull the cover off the bare ass of drug. Use showed cheaters adulterers or tax dodgers do any other whistle. Blowing if you're looking for someone's dirty laundry, you won't find it here. I know it stands to reason, if those things didn't exist in sports, there'd be no paranoia, and I hear you. I'm just saying it's not in this book. Well, if that's not in the book, what is in the book Dirk? Well, you know, I think that it's just so easy today to drag up a story about someone sinful backlog and throw it out in the light for ridicule. So the author can make a quick buck. I mean, sir would uses and affairs and all that kind of mischief. I mean it's just that my place as a player to do that. But like any other player like any other Uman being have my stories my hardships, and my broken, and they just happened to take place in the minor leagues. What you'll find in the book is the typical twenty something boyhood frat behavior with booze and sex out, call, you just won't have the fun names to tag on top of them, and you'll also find a story about what it's like to overcome adversity in the household with the family. I mean my, my dad was he's a quadriplegic for while. And that was really hard, he slipped into manic depression, and then he got extremely. Use of my brother fell in alcohol ISM. We just went through some really hard stuff and I thought that being a baseball player, you know, being the boyhood dream, realized of turning pro with fix all those issues, and it didn't turns out that baseball is glamorous job. But it's a job and a job can't fix things for you. Can't tell you who you are you have to dig within yourself and find those things, and that I think, is what the book is mainly about the side from a few good boyhood tales in between, but that's what you find. I also think that the perspective you've taken on this book and correct me if I'm wrong about it is really a coming of age story coming of age story, as a professional baseball player, letting people know what it's truly liked to chase that dream, and hopefully getting it. And also at the same time a parallel time common kind of coming of age from going from being a teenager to being a young man in a professionals world. Am I correct in up Sebatian you? You. Very much are correct observation, but I think that, you know, a lot of people assume that once you hit a certain age in life, you have this great epiphany. And you realize what it means to be a man and what it means to live. And I think that sometimes our job can shelters from that realization. You know, I like I said earlier, I always believe that being a baseball player would would would mean everything it would give me this divine insight, I would put on the jersey and ride off into the sunset and all my problems would cease to exist. That's not the case. There's a lot more to being a man than just your job title. There's a great sense of accomplishment. Once you land in, in the in the pro ranks even in the big lakes, but you are more than your job. You always will be. And I say that throughout the book and it's not try to tear athletes down. It's tried to build people around the game up. Normal people people like you and me. I guess the biggest coming of age thing was when I realized that I am more than my job that people are. More than their titles, and that we have to be more than those things. If we lose herself in those things, even the great titles, like bigly athlete. We've lost a part of our identity. And that I'd done is invaluable. It's how the rest of our life because our jobs, no matter how procedures such a small part of us, and that is really my coming of age moment. I guess you could say and I'm sure that the book will speak to a lot of other people as they found themselves in the same, walk of life, thinking about ten the in the work, you know, there's something unique and special about being a professional athlete in professional sports, because it's truly is not like any other profession. You're not like a Bank teller. You're not like a school bus driver. You're not like a lawyer. Can you sum it up? What is a professional athlete in a professional life like baseball really like? Well, you know it. It's a job surrounded by unrealistic expectation. I hope that makes sense. My say they'll try to explain, you know, when I'm in uniform, it's like people expect me to be rich suddenly or to the great or be celebrity or anything that comes with that. And the fact of the matter is, I think he wrong, I think that, you know, being a professional baseball player is sometimes like every other job, it may not look that way to the person outside of that staring in, but it can be that way the person doing it from time to time. And we, we do it every day we put our time in just like everyone else. We miss our family will you sometimes get sick of the job. Sometimes the pace stinks. I mean, there's, there's into the Joe hardships. But the problem was sports. The, the big sports lifestyle, is that there's the expectation of everyone around it that you supposed to be happy every. Things. Supposed to be great for you. You're living dream job you have no right to complain. You're probably rich. You're probably better than everyone else on your block. Everyone loves you children are dying to be you. The fact, the matter is underneath all that unrealistic expectation is a real person. And you know, I I don't know exactly what it like to be a player 'cause I've only been playing for well in the big leagues for less than a year now. But I can tell you what it isn't like, and it isn't like all those ridiculous expectations of perfection happiness that people throw on you. There's great times, but at the end of the day, there's there's this inability for you to break down and be normal. There's an expectation for you to be great and always happy. So I hope that answer your question. It's a tough one. Yeah. You've described yourself as a real person who moonlights as a baseball player. And I'm just wondering whether the minor leagues can either either harden a player or can break a player. Well, it can do both. They really can't a, you know, if you're a person that suffers from that unrealistic expectation that I talked about earlier and you get into it, and you find out that you're, you know, you're going into debt to make ends meet your most of your meals are coming from a drive through. You're sleeping four people deep in a single room apartment because you wanna hang onto this dream of years of being the Bailey sometimes for some people, you know, it makes you tougher it goes to those hardships, and, you know, the rest of your life will be a lot easier because you overcame it. And for some people, you know what? This is too much. Yeah. I got my degree. I've got my whole future ahead of me. There's no reason for me to spend the next five years in this poverty level setting, you know, sharing a room with four guys. We'd beings all the time. There's no reason for that. I get island the rest of my life. Make good money because it'll be okay if I don't make the big leagues. I've got other things to do, so it can break you and it can make you and the person that you are in the few. After like any experience can, but the minor leagues really truly is a right of passage no matter. If you spend a couple of months or a couple of years, and there is something to be said for that experience, because it is hard. And whether you decide to put your cards in and get out or you stay all the way to the very last card deck is play than you win at all. You should be proud of yourself for just making it there and surviving, most people, I think, believe that major league baseball and also the minor leagues are a lot like the movies little Derm and major league. Do you think reflect to either one of those movies is there any semblance to those moon movies and reality? Oh my goodness. Yes. There's more somewhat those movies than you. I mean. You know, the the movie. Oh, the rookie and stuff like that. I don't feel like that movie. Catchers it as well as books like our movies, like bolt Durham, I mean that those really are some true stuff I if somebody asked me, why spent so much time detailing all the juvenile behavior of the people in the bullpen. Why don't I talk about more deep stuff? We'll because there is no deep stuff, juvenile behavior. Almost all the time, we were a group of guys surrounded by other for hours on end with nothing to do, and we're bored. There's a lot of trice talk. There's a lot of crazy escapades exploits. I mean that's just what it's like being this age. And there is absolutely one hundred percents. Then once they're you know, it's a subculture all it self. And I think that if you watch major league or both Durham, you will have a better understanding of what it's like to be in the monitor's than you think I wrote a sleeve that you call the book bullpen gospels. And I'm just wondering in the bullpen in itself. Is a subculture? Is it not? Oh, yeah. Oh, definitely. That's really, we are a we deserve to be out there in pen- just caged in safely away from all the other position players. We would otherwise corrupt. Oh, yeah. What is that atmosphere? Like out there is a lot of boredom. I mean, I know the pitchers sit up there, some of them if they're not starting certainly don't know when they're going to get called into a game. Right. Well, I mean you know, you are out there, you are kind of you. If you're new, you're on 'cause you, you feel like you called it at any moment. But if you spend some time out there, you'd understand that there's a particular situation or guy is going to need relief and you will be the person they go to not every situation and he starts understanding watch the game. But let me let me say this. I don't care how big a baseball fan. You are. If you watch a game, every single day for a hundred sixty three days in a row in a launch hair under the beating sun while could scream at you for foul balls of the smell of rancid hotdogs and your nose. You'll get tired of it eventually and you will do things to distract yourself, whether it is hitting on cute girls that you see in the stands or seeing how many Sunfire. Who'd you can flip the Cup or you know if you can hit that old couple in the back of the head with a piece of gum, and it doesn't matter what it is going to be times, where, where boredom rain, sue premium, no matter how worried you are about going in. You'll have those laxed moments there will be point in time, where you as a as a pitcher net pen will be caught by surprise because you are just an alternate world. And, and this will happen. Even though you set your entire life dreaming about being on that ball field. They'll be that one moment where you're it's called. And you are in the bathroom. I guarantee it k-. 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K harassed is with us again pitcher for the Toronto Blue Jays and Dirk started recording. His minor league adventures in the belief that if he didn't make it to the big leagues. At least he could write down some of the life experiences. He had trying to get there and he signed his a senior in college at Kent state university, and he put his communication degree on hold and set off to the fabled northwest league to become a Eugene Ameral where we're all the stops in the minor leagues for you. While I, I started in Eugene, Oregon as a memorable, then I moved to Fort, Wayne, Indiana to become a fort lane wizard after that I was promoted to lake Elsinore, California to become the lake Elsinore storm, not thorough storm. And then I was then promoted to the mobile bay bears in mobile Alabama, that team, then changed its affiliate ownership, and we of the AA Padres became San Antonio, Texas. So the next year I would go back to double a San Antonio mission, consent, Tonio, Texas, that was then promoted to Portland Oregon just a couple of hours, north of Eugene come Tripoli Portland beaver, then I became a blue Jay and I spent my last half season with the triple a Las Vegas team, the Las Vegas fifty one's plus the two. To bigly teams San Diego Padres. And the Toronto Blue Jays. I've lost count at this point. There you have it coming a little bit about the travel in the minor leagues. What some of those bus trips were like again, we've seen him in movies, and I know they're probably very similar to that holiday are. And they're brutal. They are terrible experience. Man. I mean if you can just imagine thirty guys pressed into a you know, into a bus for twelve to fourteen hours on end and, you know, we don't make a lot of money and a lot of times, where eating at these really just dingy DIVY places, you know, and they're not good for the indigestion. So gase on the bus. In fact, it's like a Cal car. It's bad and then guys go back to the to the bathroom in the back of the bus, you know, and you're supposed to go back in. They had this little sign that tells you should sit down when you use the bathroom. Nobody ever does that. So suffices say you know moving target. Okay. So guys miss the spring on the entire back wall the bus, and so that's Meli urine. So you got farts year and then did spit because somebody will Philip a Gatorade bottle distal. It'll still on the floor nasty man. I mean but in the weird thing is, is that you get used to it. It's like your nose. Just knows how to tune it out. So that's like the aroma of the bus experience. But then they just press on, you know, guys throw movies on I can't say many times, I've seen dumb and dumber old school or the, you know, forty year old virgin just gets recycled over and over and over again. Boy, I you know, the minor leagues is tough. But Myrlie travel is the pick period. I remember I used to visit my grandparents in West Virginia. And while I didn't play professional baseball. I did play against them. Low minor league ball clubs as I was an American Legion player. And we played in places like Mullins and whites Ville, West Virginia, and I remember the ballpark's because they had the lights on telephone poles. And if the ball ever got hit above the light you started running for the dugout because you didn't know. Coming down, and in West Virginia I'd be out on the pitcher's mound. And I look out the center field to see where my center fielder was position. And I can only see the top half of his body because the you know, it was over the other side of the mountain, what were some of your ballpark experiences like tell me about some of. Well I can really experiences. Some of the lower budget minor league teams still have that issue. The ball goes up and disappears. And then it's just you need GPS to find it again. But have you ever been in a game where they cancelled it because of backed up sewer gas? I have Bakersfield Bakersfield, California. We had a game put on hold to make sure that the I guess, like something combust near the sewer, great and blow the field up 'cause they're all this, I guess the field was built near an old septic line backed up and so Reid. And there was a fear that the, the all the methane would blow the field apart. So that's great. We actually had to delay the start of a game because a group of bums. I'm not gonna tell you the town on this one. Just because I don't wanna bring anything, but some some bums that slept in the dugout how they got in and they had defecated in the corner of the dugout. Then there's the man Lancaster California. There's a beauty. I, I have videotape of myself holding a winter parka. I'm just holding it out in my hand in the wind every day. It blows out so hard. It'll take that. Sick Winter Park in the bullet flat straight. So this, this last one, I give you is, is Memphis redbirds now this stadium is brand spanking note is gorgeous. It is like a mecca of minor league ball. It doesn't get much better than this. But the thing about this particular stadium as the bullpen and it's fantastic. It situated in the middle of the outfield. It's elevated up off of the field, except for this like tunnel that you kinda you walked down it, and you can get to ground level in the field and have to walk down these steps and then you appear on the field. And you, you know, you make your glorious run to take the take them out when you're called in well thing is, is that like every second inning, the redbird mascot, he drives around the field shooting out search, you know, and it's waving the kids and stuff. And because you are above him and below him at the same time. Thanks to the tunnel in the architecture. You can fill up buckets of water and you can get him. The first night, and he'll know that you're gonna try and get him the next night with this water, you can just blast and right from above, and then he'll be looking above. And then you can come out below and smoking from the bottom, and just so, so if you are the kind of person likes to torture, mascot, like I am. I mean it's a dream come true for you every night Sanford and free entertainment, when you just blowing them ask right off of his bike with a bucket full of water. And, you know, I mean it's not the most glorious city, but you entertainment value, there's priceless. If you'd asked me I love it. Tell me about some of the managers because they're always portrayed in the movies is kind of grizzly. Those guys wanna just hang around the game and have been part of the game for longtime. Is that true? A true depiction or not. Sure, yeah. That is that's I mean, not every manager is like that. But a good deal of them. Are you know, like you really gotta love the game and the institutionalized with it to want to keep doing it after the chance to be? No superstar John and a lot of. These guys stick around because, you know it helps them rack up time towards that, that big league pension, which is fantastic. And if you can get into big leases because a little bit, you can keep accruing time to get your pension, which is one of the best pensions earth. So I understand that. But a lot of these guys, I mean, you gotta think of the sacrifice that you, you have to get into this game. I mean you're away from your family. You make no money you, it's really hard to have a love life that has anything, you know, consistent. So a lot of guys, they'd played fifteen years or whatever when they're done. All they really have is ball. And so they wanna stay in as much as they can't. Because it's what they know they're safe there. So you get your grizzly old back when I play kinda managers rough on you. But now there's some newer younger guys that are in there. And they're, they're more supportive, they athlete, 'cause we're not as rough and gruff as we used to be, you know, some of us are trying to manage families, and stuff like that. So you know you have a new age manager in there, too. But, but. It is, you know, it's, it's a rough life and you need a tough straw, will coach to kind of skipper, a bunch of frat, kids around, you know, God knows where these podunk towns, or they will get into trouble unless there's a nice iron fist there ruling. Sometimes you have a good smart mature, if bunch of guys and the manager can be a little lax days and have a good time but entry question, absolutely. There are still some gruff not had guys out there skippered ball teams. So me in about thirty seconds about when you finally got the call to come up to the major leagues with San Diego and pitch against the giants. What that motion Lee was like for you roller coaster. That's my life in the most terrifying part of the same time had accomplished my dream and the big legs. And then I realized, oh, crap. I gotta get the job done in the big leagues now and is awesome experiences. That is, it's also terrifying one because not only will you be pitching. They leave squad. You might be screwing up against the big lace Claude on the national stage and everybody, including your mother, and all our friends are gonna see do it. So you better pitch good. That's like what do you want people to take away from this book in about fifteen seconds? I hope that people understand that, you know, ballplayers real people to, and we share a lot in common with everyday folk where no better, no worse. But we can learn from each other Dirk, I wanna thank you. And I'm going to people read this book, because it'll give you some real insight to what a ball player is like as a human being as well as the professional athlete, and what those minor leagues are like as well. 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I don't think they could tell us tell me Jack is probably not Jack, north was the gentleman who in nineteen away was riding a subway in New York City, and he's still an ad for a game being played at the polo grounds in New York Giants game, presumably, and that gave him the idea the songwriter lyricist and he penned the lyrics to take me out to the ball game. And, you know, of course, such a part of our rituals seventh-inning stretch. And which a lot of people don't realize only only goes back to the mid seventies. And we would sing in ballparks, Jack nor with the gentleman was one of his two big hits the other sign on of harvest moon, and I was felt like you know, I was at a ballgame, Anaheim where. Live not too long ago, and I realized he's laid to rest not five minutes from the ball park. And I thought how many people here at fifty thousand no that the during the seventh inning stretch? The guy who wrote that is right here. So it got me thinking, and kind of you want to preserve these stories but baseball loves its own history. And I thought it would be a good chance to shine a light on this guy that gave us essentially baseball's national anthem. As I do that usually when people write a song about a sport or about something associated with sports. They come become pretty well known. I think it Dan fogelberg song associated with baseball as well. Why do you think he is just been an oblivion think probably because it happened? So long ago. I mean, he's the guy from the vaudeville age before television before movies before sound movies, anyway and a lot of radios. So he just would have predates, modern technology, the other part two. He wasn't a big baseball fan. Wasn't like the kind of guy you went to ton of games and became sort of like a Bill Vic character anything like that. He didn't go to first game until nineteen forty I believe, and he went to see game at Ebbets field where they honored him and then in nineteen fifty eight here in California on the hundred anniversary of of the song they, they gave him in a trophy at the LA Coliseum during a dodgers game. So I think the fact that he didn't really market himself as that guy. And also, the technology that he predated a lot of it probably something to do with it. You know, I'm looking. Your story here and does a seventh inning stretch only go back to nineteen seventy six they talk about the seventh inning tradition in the story. Well, yeah, I mean Harry Carey used to sing the song take me to the ball game kind of to himself in the booth when he was working for the White Sox. And one day Bill exa to him, you know in nineteen seventy six I'll put a microphone here and let the crowd, hear you sing it that, that to me is really stunning fact. I started going to games in the early seventies as a kid, and I, I can't remember not singing it during the seventh inning stretch. But it's a fairly modern occurrence. And after they started doing it in Chicago, it sort of branched out most ballparks today, major and minor league will do it. But yeah, that's a mid seventies phenomena doesn't go back to nineteen eight or anything is sort it's fairly modern occurrence. If you've seen any of the people that have tried to sing that song during the seventh inning stretch at Wrigley field. I would assume the Jack has turned over in his grave several times. You know what that to me, it really is one of the great lasting traditions of that song, or the celebrity singers? And to your point, it's produced some of the best and the worst sublime to the ridiculous, whether it's Ozzy Osborne, Bill Maher your whomever that, that really is something that I think is added a nice layer to this long. Again. The more we can at least recall this name, Jack nor worth. And as I wrote in the article to here in California, and Laguna beach, where he lived from nineteen forty till his death and fifty nine. He actually spearhead of the creation of the little league in town and every year. Now Laguna beach the, the winners of the local little league. Get the Jack nor with trophy every year and on opening day in their little league. Every kid is given a box of cracker jacks in honor of Jack Norway, so he may have been forgotten around the world of the country. But in Laguna PS has a very strong arts community into your point. It's a little bit a little bit frou frou. It's not like laid back each community. It's actually pretty twenty place. But, but as far as they're literally goes, it's, it's wonderful. And again, the fact that they honor, Jack nor with, as they do, and he was a good local community guy, and he ran a little store on, on Costa. Highway for years and years. It was a real part of the fabric of the community. So again, that's what he I think is best remembered today. And every kid, of course, in that little league knows mnopening day, 'cause they'll get a box of cracker jacks in fairness, he is a co author of the song, he wrote, the words, did he not, and his partner wrote the music, right? And the words that we know are actually the chorus of the song, obviously, there's that's a whole story about again. I wants to bring a date to a ball game that's got different verses, and preambles. Well, we thing during the seventh inning stretch is the chorus of actually brought up. Bunch of the old versions and use them as part of the soundtrack to show, one of the things that's the prize me was that he didn't actually attend a major league game until years after he wrote that. And I'm just wondering what was it in his background, that would give him such a sense for baseball? Well, you know, if you listen to the song, it's a pretty it's a fairly basic tail and, you know, the other thing, too, there were a lot of songs written about baseball back. Enjoy Jim Cohen wrote a few this one, just I think because of its simplicity managed to latch on, and it also had a lot to do with this excessive. Crackerjack people. Don't realize this is one of the first examples of product placement, it was just a very simple tale. Kind of boy meets girl boy wants to a baseball game. He didn't have to know. Lot about baseball the way he structured, the song was really just based on that the most simple aspects of baseball. He didn't nothing really the game. Like I said it was at on subway, that inspired. All right. So he used what little he knew to kind of weave this boy meets girl tail around it. You mentioned about the ad. It was an ad for the polo grounds did. Do you ever find allies with ABC promoting the fact that the giants played at the polo grounds? This is before they would. Print ads for specific games. It was just sort of a general awareness ad that if you wanna see a ball game, and I think it peaked his interest in east of sort of what is this baseball game? You know. What, what is it about? They would wanna go see and he asked people about the simple tale around it. And the other thing that I found fascinating in your Arctic. Go was that he didn't see his first baseball game into visiting Brooklyn's Ebbets field on June twenty seventh nineteen forty. And the dodgers honored him with Jack nor worth. Yeah. At that point, people at that point, he gives. In something, very famous to the country and to that point after he died, the royalties from that song the mid nineteen sixties, we used to create the ass cap fund, which is a fund to help struggling songwriters. So the song is given back a lot. More than just a lot of seventh-inning stretches. It's also helped launch other careers as well. And while he was honored in nineteen forty it wasn't another eight. P near same thing by all records. They didn't. They just gave him the honor as he mentioned, the fifty eight he's living out here at this point and. Dodgers just moved out here that you're from Brooklyn, they're playing the Coliseum. And yes, everybody thorough Nate him that day in the call the investing. But it still wasn't a seventh inning stretch thing you know again, I think most baseball fans would swear to you. They heard that song the seventh inning in the sixties early. The seventies. But it just wasn't happening not that there may not have been some other little minor league parks here and there the did it, but as far as the tradition that we know. Take me out to the ball game. He's baseball's forgotten man. Also while I was doing some research on you. I saw slide. That you had tell everybody about that slide show. Oh, thank you. Yeah. I wrote a book called roadside baseball number of years ago, which is sort of baseball road trip around the United States, I went and visited hundreds of. Work. Baseball landmarks rights piece about some photos, they took. And I did a thing to kind of launch baseball season today. It's sort of my opening day where I took a bunch of images that. Stadt around the country. I wrote a script, and then I voiced and sort of my little two minute journey around the United States. Visiting I think about twenty or so baseball places. And that's why sense to me to really kinda get to the heart of what I like to do, which is again going around and find old. All parks, old pieces of ballparks. And you know anything having to do with baseball history that to me is sort of like mecca going around the United States. Chris, what are some of the old ballparks that you found? Found that you're featuring well on that site. I've got a whole section in, in this lied show where winters say from Forbes field and old metropolitan stadium where they'll, they'll put the home plate. Mar. Okay, we're home plate used to be so those are in there. I do a whole little sequence on ballparks that are gone like Ebbets field, the poll grounds and Yankee Stadium. And what's there? Today. Then do thing on ballparks still remain with us that are historical from Fenway. Wait a Wrigley when he was a Red Sox pitcher early in his career ironic. The also the exact same room with the Chicago. Black SOX hatched their scheme to throw the nineteen nineteen World Series. It overlooks Fenway park and. Think of the history in that one room. I goose bumps telling you about right now to where he was instrumental in helping re save the game after that the black guy, the game, dirt Babe Ruth. Really kind of stepped up and help, you know, focus public energy positive energy back on the games. That room to me. It's really sacred spot in baseball history. And I really think that since the. That's a great point. You, you still do fine minor league parks that date back to the twenties. And thirties. Thirties. And I mean stunningly to me in the major leagues. Now, the where I go to a lot of games Anaheim stadium. That's. Now, the fourth oldest boy, I tell all of those places like if you wanna go take a tour of where Babe Ruth played here, the places where you can go and see where Lou Gehrig or Jack. Aki Robinson Orse, actual page or a number of, of other hall of famers because I think it's important to go and step into that space. And imagine what it was. Like when Honus Wagner step of the plate and to be able to say, yes, it was writing are reflective of the Aira, and the are. That we happen to live in at that time, would you agree with that? I think that's a great point. When you look at what went up during the early nineteen seventies where? Let me think became multipurpose when those are all gone. And we're back to, you know. I guess more traditional kind of ballpark, but it's hard to recreate the magic of those all of those old parks much as they try. I still think Camden Yards. The best example of doing it the right way to something that park to me that feels the parking Pittsburgh is very nice. Texas and some others as well. But yeah, it does reflect the ear it right now in the era of wanted to go back and reclaim the pass a little bit. So putting all these new parks, made to kind of look read show and feel. Yeah. I think there are two things that baseball did that was just so bad for the game in the field for the game. And that. Was dome stadiums earthy Minnesota. I think that basically puts the dome year to rest of they're not gonna have one, you know, now, now a will say that, like up in Seattle, where they've had kind of modified open close. They're gonna Milwaukee that probably helps they're nice new ballparks. But again, the weather you know, resulted in so many laws games they had to do something, but I agree with you, and an artificial turf to me is a scourge of the game. I just wish they had never done it at that point. It really does become like another sport in a sense, you know what they're playing on. I think it ended careers shorter than they needed to be guys played, a lot of years and Cincinnati and Saint Louis stadiums that had artificial turf. Really wasn't a good move. We're going about thirty five seconds left. But is there a moment that you've visited a ballpark kind of left you with something of particular feeling? Yeah, I would say it wasn't a park per se. It was a field though. In Baltimore, Maryland. I went to the, the, the site of the orphanage were Babe Ruth grew up. It's now a boys high school now but I went to the orphanage I, I had an old pitcher Babe Ruth when he first started playing baseball as void were brother, Matthias famously gave them in the bat, and I found the exact spot where he was standing in that photo in the field is still there. And standing at that spot to me was kind of like the big bang of baseball because that's where Babe Ruth decided he was going to be baseball player. Chris fascinating conversation. Thank you for the background on Jack nor worth a hang on the line for just a second. Chris empting with us here. And again, if you get a chance check that out on AOL news, we'll take a break continue with more of you and sports. Byline. Rebuild or replace transmission. Thirty two hundred dollars and I love brake system, a thousand dollars to replace engine twenty four hundred dollars through this once you're manufacturer's warranty runs out. It's all on you every last cent. 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Jeff rich here with you, as I am Monday through Thursday nights from ten pm until midnight Pacific time, and you give me for the last hour of your weekend on Sunday nights at eleven PM Pacific time, it is the last hour of the weekend in the lower forty eight anyway. And in the, these great, forty eight states. No disrespect to the great warriors of the university of Hawaii. But college sports rule the day on Saturdays every fall when you can watch your favorite team from the big tent the biggies biggies, but the. But the. The SEC ACC the big twelve the Pac twelve the mountain west afri-. Athletic conference exists, but not really in football at a high level, you have the conference USA you have the sunbelt, and you have the American athletic conference, which is somewhat of a pool of survivors of the old big east, which still exist in basketball, but it's has changed from Catholic schools across the cross the snow belt more or less the oil, you go all the way from makar Marquette to the Paul down to Georgetown. You still got a couple of the old school schools, from the old, big east, but they don't play that big city, NBA arena, bass. He'll professional brand of basketball six fouls because different for a while. It is not the. You know, it's not your father's uncle's big study more, it's not a great basketball conference. And we'll talk about the elephant in the room should we or should we not be paying the players? Big college sports, our coming your way with yours truly Jeff rich here on the sports byline broadcast network. 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Three other teams, whether they are wild card. From your power, five or a. We call it the group of five, but the also rans I don't have any reason to be played. I like those schools though when we say things like mid major or automatic qualifier. Remember what the with the latest one was, there's always these these cute little fancy terms where we dance around the fact that there are the haves and the have nots, and there have nots that run run among the haves and masquerade as have. The Vanderbilt's the Wake Forest. Northwestern's. Cameo appearance. It's a big deal in the big ten, it was a big deal, only anyway, back when they had the Rosebowl, which is one of my chief complaints it needs to be played at six thirty eastern time. It needs to be played. On New Year's day in needs to be played between the big ten and the Pac ten champion, we could call we can make an exception. Consider the, the Pac twelve one in the same with the old pack ten the, the big ten in the pack ten now the Pac twelve gave up the most for the BCS by putting that Rose Bowl on a platter, which gave the big ten teams the opportunity to play in the national championship when it was the Rose Bowl and then they, they reestablished all of the standard games and they just kind of considered the national championship and add on for the back half of the BCS that's the two thousand six season right on through to the twenty thirteen season where they had that add on. So they did two cycles of the foresights, which was the rose fiesta, the sugar and the Orange Bowl and they. They. The through who Ed, just played it as those very bowl games for the first four years, the first year that the big ten had to surrender. It's. While the big ten and the Pac ten at the time had to surrender was the year that Miami finished undefeated. And they took out a Dobrescu team that had lost their last regular season game of account of sixty two to thirty six the day after thanksgiving which eliminated them from playing in the conference championship and allowed them to basically have a buy week during conference championship break. Then go get crushed in the national championship. Oregon had a reason to believe that they were slighted that year. That was the Big Joe Harrington for Heisman year, and Colorado, who lost to them in the festival, they have as much of an argument, even though they were the big twelve champs by virtue of defeating depressed. And then going on to beat Texas Texas in that big twelve championship and. There were there were just so many things. You know, it's Texas had all kinds of problems getting out of just the big twelve south to get into that championship game than the Brassica Brassica couldn't win couldn't win anything more than the north division in the big twelve but Nebraska did find themselves in the in the national championship game, and they lost. But that was a Rose Bowl that didn't include a pack Ted or a big ten team. Brask wasn't there yet? We got it again, the next year with Washington state, a pack pack, ten team winning the conference USC also played at a major bullion Iowa. So yet a big ten Pac ten game on the other side of the country in south Florida. Whereas you had Oklahoma say, God, Washington state, I believe that I believe that Oklahoma actually did. Win that Rose Bowl game today's later, Ohio State would beat Miami down in Tempe, Arizona for the national championship. And that was that was really the beginning of the second cycle. It started with Tennessee, Florida state in ninety eight and circle back. So the second time around, it was Ohio State and and Miami that was the double overtime game that will stay one thirty one to twenty four. And then it circle back again. And this time, it's not the yes to bowl anymore. It's not even in Tempe. It's over in Glendale, Arizona, where the cardinal stadium was just a record for that two thousand five thousand six and Ohio State played Florida in that game. But there was a fiesta bowl that took place beforehand. That was the statue of liberty play where Boise state beats Oklahoma forty three to forty two in the first I played in Glendale, Arizona. That gave circles back again and leave that, that was the Oregon Auburn year. And then once we got into the college football playoff where you had your six access bull. So yet, on the peach, or the chick fil able, that's. That's the game in Atlanta and yet on the Cotton Bowl as well. So you have six games in the rotation, but none of them for the national championship. It's just you know, every third year you get to host your bowl game host a semi-final game. And on the, the actual Daschle championship is bit around and sold. So I don't even know when Arizona's promised to get their next national championship game. If ever we know that they're going to get the Super Bowl here in a couple of years. And I think the timing is going to line up just right for Mike. Leave him Browns to play in that game. And I, I really do believe that the Cleveland Browns will play us Hooper bowl before the state's on devils play in a Rose Bowl. The devils last played in the Rose Bowl against the Ohio State Buckeye team that I grew up rooting for in Cleveland Ohio, they lost dramatic fashion. And it costs them national championship. They previously did win it ten years earlier when they defeated Michigan Ohio state hired that coach that beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl and that guy John Cooper. He didn't do any of those things that'll Hieaux state, but hardly for that win against St. at two wins in thirteen years against their rivals to the north university of Michigan. Are we gotta get outta here on the other side, we'll talk about the way that it ought to be college basketball. According to be my name is Jeff Brits. The sports overnight. America on the sports. Byline broadcast at work, and we'll be right back. Second goal. The one of very quickly, the quick very he's at one. Nightside any rare safety belt failed tried to stopping but running around the Whiteside the touchdown on the little ir state of the board. Match. Put it in. The case Hollywood. This is sports overnight. America with your host, Jeff rich. Attention to anyone. That's written a book. A wants to write a book. 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That's eight hundred eight four seven eleven eighty three. Roberts. Second free throw to make this eight possession game. Twenty. State. Savoy, screen covered. Three. Rebounds of ten seconds. Here. Florida state fifty fifty. Your host, Jeff. Welcome back to the program everyone. It is sports overnight, America. We are. Pocking college or. Basketball is one of those sports where you don't really have to. Be layers into the. National championship game. Michigan their program. Definitely re. Founded with John beeline. We'll see what direction they go in with that tournament. You know whether was. Sixty four or sixty five when he added the play in game. Then you had a bunch of playing games playing into all kinds of random seeds, and I'll tell you what these playing games. They work. Part of the opening weekend as that we is that Thursday. Bruce Sunday ends up being take Tuesday, what you can do is all right. Let's get rid of the sixteen. Team versus sixteen. It's not a game that sells a game that on the west coast, you don't even really. Lays. It's on unless you have an interest in watching the second game and it runs on a real life. Apple. That's just the I think it actually kinda makes my point. That you're playing. Used in Wednesday. You're not. I think it's really unfortunate. The first four is what is what they call it. I really, I don't mind. Maybe Cinderella type team. Goes fourteen sixteen in the regular season. And as a six seed, they win their conference tournament automatically. All by and Thursday. Yeah. Need to wear a team out on Tuesday to play Duke on Thursday. Okay. They're not going to be the ones. They're not. B B you NBC Pacific time. Monday through Thursday right here on the sports byline broadcasts that work for the sports overnight America program. Talk a little bit of college sports this hour. What's what I think? Tell you what, I think. Works a little bit. I'm talking about putting sixteen. Through Thursday and Friday. They qualify automatically qualify for this great dance of tournament. Let's. Them play. Is it to the glory that is the tournament? Give that to them. Take it away from these teams. You hear our last foreign, I four out offers tournament. Sometimes they just got to play competitive half. Basketball for they get blown out by the better c. The team that is. Actually, it is March you pull off an upset in March. I don't mind the night. Neil about sixty eight teams. Sixty nine don't have a case sex. In the conference tournament, generally don't have a case you lose a game like that. Nobody because you can't beat that team. You don't believe me. We'll get zero state the last two seasons. Purdue. Bye. Those games. The road. But let's play the college football playoff. We'll, we'll revisit football here in a second. What I what I think it is. Maybe you had a good conference run, but you showed very poorly in the. Early in the non conference slate before the flip the calendar to the new year. You know what do you make of teams? Teams get left out. Maybe the bad teams get left out because you gotta let some bad teams because they win their conference. Tournament reward those guys, let's play. Let's have the course of the weekend. 'cause nobody's advancing anywhere. Everybody's just advancing. Do into the field of sixty four take seven eight nine. I think that adds. That adds what sixteen to sixty four so. Eighty teams. I watch it expand this. Thursday. Friday. I prefer that I get to choose what games I watch. I'm not cool with what college with what the college football playoff is done. With brought with the limited broadcast games that they have. ABC t now do you know? That's it. You watch the sun bowl on CBS. I don't think it'd be. ESPN FOX might have one of the games. They don't have one of the access games. But I believe forty one bowls. Forty one postseason games. I believe I read on F B schedules dot com. Teams. Remember, you got the. The play in the semi final games, which are. Four teams than it up. Fox Fox Sports. On CBS will televise one game. Each at everything else belongs. That that's that's a game. It. Alls FCS teams. I kind of liked the idea for talking college football. And I realized that I meander. And didn't really get you it major championship to play it. Do the field of eight I think it should be that exclusive that seven high majors in one major that has to play in that game. That's how it would change college football. College basketball, more is better but to. This. Listening to the ability to write your book. Maybe you picked up some skills or. Head a life experience, that you want to pass on in the form of a book to help, others, maybe you ought to leave and autobiography, for your family, or maybe you built a successful business, and you want to share your story. Ad. Dorrance publishing company or as little help. 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Which is an other built in commercial thirty teams going out there and playing basically every. We staggered the schedule yet by weeks you have things that make it so that you're, you know, there aren't fifty seven games every week. Others. About thirty five. Existed in face school football. You know where I grew up in the Cleveland area in north. Still high. Oh, where games are played on Thursday out of respect to those celebrating. Russia shot, which is, you know, you, you could play out. On Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, if you're in the mid American conference and. That's how you get for a MAC game in November. And it really stinks because. Look at someplace northern Illinois. They've got three Saturday home games in. To support the college football team. It's probably an added perk. It's definitely an added perk. If you can be a scholarship football player in that program. Man, you know, you can get the exposure, you know, scholarships are limited. Other even more limited when you get to division two. And then they are restricted when you division three. So. Artificial. Caps that school could you whatever? Ons, basically could continue to give away free education, but it's not going to do that. It's good. It's going to stay within the parameters. You've seen the program but it's not a Athletic Association. I'll just put it that way with the double a at. The ad. Some of the rules are. That that's not something the radical that's. Jason Keith Van horn. We have pasta gate at ten state where we determined that we were over compensated, the players with pasta. Shabazz knee. Shabazz Napier adds up. Says he's hungry and the fixes it right away. Because hungary. Is. At least at least want to reestablish. Position I went for being adamantly against the, the student athletes being paid to to to. I'm going to listen to the Y on and the shortsighted. As the crow flies path to. The solution for forgetting about it. Any type of collateral damage so it's, it's click here by this. And we add up. We end up thinking that we're solving a problem that maybe. Isn't something that's act. You'll be because we're very we're very binary. We are. We are zeros and ones with pay the players don't pay the players. And we don't need to. We don't need to take these hard lines. Maybe everybody should be on the one side of the equation. Everybody should be in on listening. Now, my concern concern is you start throw it out paychecks. What do you do the budgets? What are you doing to the competitive level? What are you doing? For that, for that guy that wants to go to Vanderbilt Stanford Duke. Football scholarship. What are what if those types of schools, can't make the payroll because they don't know program. That's that's worth the buck. I mean, I, I am I like baseball's model the best with no salary cap in its survival of the fittest. Usually means big markets usually means little markets like mining Cleveland. Get strewed. Attic, definitely see that happening with college. Now that I'm worried about Arizona state losing a Cold War of funds. Try to recruit Los Angeles and to recruit, Texas, which is you what Aaron strong shoot should should be is keeping these guys at St. because more and more people are moving here. There's more of organic recruiting ground here in the in the Phoenix area. So, so they've got that going for them, and then they've got Texas access. They've got California access. They'll make payroll. Now worry about state. I'm not worried about the, the soon to be professional team in Columbus. I suppose, right? Is you do the newspaper solution that the student newspaper voids conflict of interest with the university itself because it's not a university sanctioned program. It is an independent entity that sits adjacent to the college campus at employs, the journalism students at that school as part of their student paper, you could do that with the football program, but you can't say it's a university program and guys like urban Meyer and. I don't think the Clemson is pas clips that public university, Dabo Sweeney Sweeney would be a bad example, just say Nick Sabin, these guys stop being state employees and they become part of the whatever the business entity is going to be the could be the Alabama cases are going to be the SEC is going to be the NC, double A, or some governing faction over all of overall the ball or will ESPN in the playoff committee on it. I mean, there's a lot of why and how I need to understand. And you know, I could echo these sentiments when I take these headphones off and the conversation turns to our livelihood in society, like a, oh, how are you going to are you going to convince me, joy need to have an open mind that we're going to go in this direction, just because it's inevitable and I need to get on board or convinced me, why I should be willing to get on board with it. Just I just don't want the bottom to fall out at a want opportunities lost in order to give these guys more than than what they need. And you know, if you go sixty scholarships not every not all sixty players are created equal. I think that you adore the door to financially punitive punishment that could be administered by the ethnic program. I mean, if I'm paying you docu if I hire you I can fire you. Those, I talked about just given these guys enough that they could supplement not being able to work a part time job off campus like their fellow student can the student that's doesn't have the dash athletes attached to their. They're standing in, in collegiate society. Go ahead. Figure out the way that you're going to do it. Can't just let them take take money for their likenesses though. I mean I think that that's the first early solution. Every player gets fifteen hundred dollars for like this on the video game. Expensi- 2013 that you made a college football game. Let's go. Let's go print these up. Let's classic games. Let's reach out to former players. I'm sure whatever whatever the number is I, let's just say it's one hundred times one hundred ten thousand times that you have to do fifteen hundred. Couple million dollars, you're going to sell that video game. And you're going to be all sell it on multiple platforms. And if you go she ate more. I mean there, there are more more likeness deals that you can make year in year out. Sell the jerseys. These guys make money on jerseys. Not the game more stuff. I get that you want to avoid the impropriety aspect of things. You can't circumvent the salary cap professional sports, either. So the envelopes are bad business. It's against the rules at it, and it should be forbidden. But let these guys make ads for the car commercials. Maybe be their money. Maybe put in a trust like Josh Rosen, what suggested? There are ways. See people like to probably come around. Let's figure out medical benefits of these guys are taking care of injuries that they suffer try to represent the university are taken care of by the university of. That's what it's all about is making sure that they get their piece of the pie and you do that you do that without necessarily a salary do that with the trust you do that with more per more benefits. These guys making ten fifty these guys making a hundred thousand dollars that they should definitely make it off that they could afford to have a car to get around that they can afford the same luxuries that the people that have time in addition to their class load. Can make some money for themselves. I think that if you level the playing field for the student athlete right there to where they're not just making money for the school and not making anything for themselves because of their commitment to the school. They don't have any time to commit to themselves. I think that we could level the playing field there. So that's my open-mindedness. That's my, that's my controversial college football or college sports take. And it's a very controversial subject. I think that if you present the good, y I definitely co-signed not that you require my approval. My name's Jeff rich. 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There are plenty of others their programs that are dominant in lacrosse were Memorial Day weekend. Is your final four for that sport? And it is a very big deal on the east coast. You know, the frozen four always get some of the best hockey teams, you know, they don't plan in preferable market. So it's Minnesota Duluth some. Sometimes denver. You know you get these Boston teams and that's when the networks, ten to cover it a little bit more. And I will say this. Yes. PF does a great job, covering baseball, softball and women's basketball. You know, they don't have the network appeal that CBS gets televising the tournament, and they do a very good job with all of that. So this is a great college sports, our discussion, you give me anytime on Twitter to keep the discussion going at Jeffrey talks. That's the do it for this hour of sports overnight. America, we're on Dan Patrick radio Sirius XM channel to eleven now. Stay tuned for more sports next hour on the sports byline broadcast network. You're listening to the sports byline USA broadcast that work. You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio now man newsfeed dot com. Still newscast Friday. The fourteenth 2019, I'm Mike Clifford, hundreds of companies are Trump to resolve the tariff dispute with China. Also on our Friday rundown. California moves closer to universal health coverage. Plus some new go frustration projects post the deep water horizon, spill first our top story, WalMart, target and more than six hundred other companies are urging President Trump to resolve the trade dispute with China that for Reuters. They report the message was sent Thursday. A letter saying, the tariffs hurt American business and consumers. 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You're listening to sports overnight America. Buddy. Welcome in for another hour sports overnight, America. Jeff rich queue from Phoenix, Arizona and no hit the focusing on the National Football League. And you know what was done in the draft? What kind of season are you coming off from year ago? What are you prospects going forward? Is this an all in type season? Are you working with the new head coach layoffs in the National Football League in order to preserve jobs? And I'm not I'm not saying age. I'm not saying the job of the head coach or the job of. Any particular player I've talking multiple as well. And you see how teams behave how they evaluate their own team, if you make minimal adjustments, one of two things is happening, you're either getting ready to unload, so that you can rebuild, or you feel like you can go forward with the team. You have MVS competitive is, you could be without maybe breaking the Bank to sign that free agent and one time to break the Bank. Maybe it's time that you already we have seen these things all play out for my hometown team. The Cleveland football Browns have not been relevant in a long time. And let's not treat them as a team as an organization that existed since taking forty six for the sake of the state of the team. We are talking only recent history only we cannot go back farther than when the Browns were expanded into the league in one thousand nine hundred nine there's really very little point in even going that far. Let's just focus on getting where we're at right now. Lots of Cleveland Browns coming your way this hour by names. Jeff rich coming to your Phoenix, Arizona were doing this one for the troops out there listing on the American forces at work. This is sports, byline broadcast network, and we'll be right back. Twenty eight I struggled with opiates and meth addiction for twelve years. I did and said things that the sober me never would have done when they realized I was not invincible. 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Gibril poppers, first round draft pick of the Cleveland Browns in two thousand seventeen thousand nineteen he will pulling his professional football for the New York football giants. Of course, he the centerpiece of the trade, along with the seventeenth overall pick in the two thousand nineteen f l draft goes to the New York Giants and exchange for the services of recently resigned wide receiver Odell Beckham Junior Seau owed back junior centerpiece. Most certainly of the Cleveland Browns off-season offseason that did not do much to feature the draft. They did acquire subpoenas in the draft. They focused on reloading supplementing the defense a little bit. I think that you need a little bit of defensive depth, but certainly not a year like the previous to that saw them, add top five picks. In Denzel ward Myles Garrett and Baker Mayfield. The ladder to number one overall picks. And that's a good sign when you're in the seventeenth slot, it means that you are not among the worst of the worst. And that is what Cleveland Browns football fans have gotten used to over the last, we'll say twenty years, but let's, let's focus on the immediate past. It was reformer and then Sashi Brown running this football team in the role of the general manager and. You know, whatever happened before Sashi Brown was brought in by this ownership group to, to change the game to take an analytical approach, Andrew barrier, Maine's from that regime, Paul pedestrian the right hand, man, so to speak to Billy being in the years of moneyball, which is a real thing. If you watched the movie, you know that the Jona hill character was not a carbon copy of Paul de pedestrian at amalgamation of characters that worked alongside with Billy bean to carry out his philosophy taking an analytical approach to sport in that case it was baseball here. It's obviously football. So it was a different animal for pedestrian to take on. It was a different type of project for Sashi Brown to work with and ownership for at least the time being. In that time in that present with Hugh Jackson as the head coach who looked like a home run hire after the two thousand fifteen season. Services were coveted in the Browns landed him, and it was a big deal. Well, what happens next? They lose out in free agency. They watch Alex Mack. Go to the Atlanta Falcons. They played no Super Bowl for them. They watched killer Gabriel go to those same falcons. They held onto an older player in. Andrew Hawkins who now hosts the Tomahawk podcast with. Joe Thomas and the ad rockets and. Really give you Jackson must have much of a team to compete with. They brought in Robert Griffin, the third and that didn't go well from the outside, and it was Josh mccown, and it was really just a lot of way for that quarterback to a rival, and in two thousand sixteen when they wanted fifteen they earned the number one overall pick and you really earn. That is defaulted to you. When you are the worst. There is no lottery. You get the top pick because you were the worst the before. Are you really earning it? Long story short. Myles Garrett is generational talent on the defensive side of the ball. Think today cloudy think Lawrence Taylor, Derrick Thomas, and that's, that's the player that the, you know, the Browns have ended up with more so than ensue, I am going to say that nine years later. I'm already calling the fight Myles Garrett wins out over in ensue. It's just the way that things are right now. I think that Garrett is leaps and bounds better that either Vosa. But of course, you got to see the get on the field to make that type of judgment call, we'll see twenty nineteen what happens with the brothers Bosa. But Myles Garrett has proven even coming into the league. As a player that was Owen sixteen after the twenty seventeen season twenty eighteen they start out what like two. I'll wanted one. That's right. They were a one in one after losses after loss to the saints and a tie in the opening week to the Pittsburgh Steelers. So it takes a while for you Jackson. Get to get his walking papers a year ago, he should have gotten them after oh and sixteen. Maybe give them the benefit of doubt on one fifteen should've out a way to win a game. Ties pittsburgh. They lose a heartbreaker because of their kicker to the saints. Maybe you don't put that on Hugh Jackson. They beat the Browns on Thursday night football tyrod Taylor gets hurt in the first half. Baker comes in at the end of the second quarter and ends up finishing off a win where the bras were down fourteen and nothing in that game. And they bounce back to win their first game in a couple of years going back to Christmas Eve in twenty sixteen and that would have really spoiled you know, a great year for Cleveland sports. The Browns go in sixteen for them to stink as much as they did in sixteen with the one in fifteen Mark anyway. I'm glad that the, the winless season waited another year. They kind of got jobbed in Oakland. So you know there's lots of look at what this season where you say. All right. If we had a decent kicker, we beat Pittsburgh. We beat the saints talking from the team's perspective. Now my own, of course. The team was able to beat the jets I down taken away from Carlos high pod further review, which on necessarily move the ball back. They beat the ravens in overtime they clobbered by a playoff team in the chargers. They get. They beaten by Tampa. And, you know, maybe maybe kicker issue, there was the kicker from Clemson that cans are who just busted out with the falcons with the cardinals and even the Browns beat writer said no way this guy makes us fifty six yard to beat the Brown. So. Another one of those games that could have gone either way and then just inept effort against the Pittsburgh Steelers a one in one on the season to get to Pittsburgh. Not good enough, and that was that was the end of the line for you. Jackson is the head coach the team they appoint Greg Williams as the interim head coach. They go out there. They get destroyed by Kareem hunt and the Kansas City Chiefs that it was a collaborative effort Kelsey and hunt were all over it in their Cleveland homecomings. And then they start to get things together. Twenty eight sixteen win over Atlanta. They put up thirty five the following week, and they beat Hugh Jackson, who cowardly accepted a gig with the Cincinnati Bengals spite the fact that he'd been in the Browns locker room all season convert by yet another playoff team in the Houston Texans. They go onto beat Carolina. They've they beat Denver. They beat Cincinnati, a second time around, and with Pittsburgh play. Off fate hanging in the balance. They played the Baltimore Ravens and it was the three interception game for Baker Mayfield and the Browns failed to achieve victory. So they ended up seven eight and one we'll talk about what's in the in the windshield. That's everything. That's in the rear view mirror at the moment. My name's Jeff rich. This is a very Cleveland Browns. Dishing up sports overnight. America on the sports byline broadcast network of your back. The spot is at the twenty-seven. It's thirty seven yard field goal for Greg Joseph colquitt, Asam, it, you ready? This is to win. 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The general manager of the Cleveland Browns commenting prior to pulling the trigger on the deal for. Back junior from the New York Giants welcome back at sports overnight. America were talking about the state of the team when it comes to the Cleveland Browns talk about where they're coming where they've come from one in fifteen and sixteen seven eight and one. They parted ways with not just to Jackson. But after the season Greg Williams was told that he was to be thanked for his services, but no honored necessary around the team facility, and Freddie kitchens. Ends up being named the head coach of the basketball team of the football team, the basketball team Cavs are always changing coaches Browns are always changing coaches, Terry Francona seems like he is there as long as he wants to be a with the Cleveland Indians. And you know, it's a good transition because there's been a lot of frustration at twenty nineteen as Cleveland fan when I take the headphones off and put the phone down, just just say, go team mostly rooting for the Cleveland teams. I'm disappointed in the Indians for not having an off season. And you are seeing the results of punting on the offseason, the Browns have done that plenty of times in the past. This was not one of those seasons. Where something like that would go down. Odell Beckham junior acquired from the New York Giants for draft picks and Djibril peppers first round pick of a couple of years ago, he joins Jarvis Landry who spent his first season in Cleveland in twenty eighteen Greg Robinson on that offensive line. What other new pieces that they pick up by the way, Kareem hunt, one of the most electrifying players in the NFL when he's been able to get on the field last couple of seasons. He will be suspended, the first eight games of twenty nineteen but Brown steps that running back still includes Nick job and do Johnson, who have been able to hold their own? Do Johnson versatile player, the catch the ball out of the backfield as well as just splitting out? And we have one of those weird numbers wide receiver wearing number twenty nine David new joke, who really seems like he's been able to pick up the game of football, the last couple of seasons out of the, the university of Miami, and Florida. He's definitely been a weapon for whoever's been slinging the rock and then you have Landry. You have you have Hollywood Higgins, you have Antonio Calloway allegedly first round Cowan. But a player. That had problems staying on the field due to some issues. They have this Damon. She he just epi who has just be speed. Demon should add an element to the return game Calloway can return punts. We'll see. We'll see how they are on special teams special teams has been any type of focus that they, they do have one of those colquitt brothers, his brother. This one is Britain. His brother I believe it is Dustin punts for the Kansas City Chiefs. And then you have Greg Joseph who they signed midseason a you're not great numbers out of college. But I think it's what he has done that you don't see on paper that has really been celebrated by the front office. Now they were without Terrance Mitchell, the Browns, who they picked up from Kansas City. They were without him for a great deal of last season. With a broken arm he will be back. Greedy Williams a first round talent. They claim just fell to them in the. Get fifty four in the NFL draft. That is so awesome. Because you don't understand how good it feels to really follow the Cleveland Browns and feel a fuzzy on draft details. We used to be all over that because the draft was the only thing that freaking matter because it was the future. Those drafts have occurred. And now as a fan, I'm hoping that Cleveland falls into the twenties and the thirties in the draft, not only does it signify, a great season. The year before, but it also puts you in a position where you don't have to hit a home run with the pick, you look at a guy that you could develop a guy that can help right away but can learn on the go, and get better and maybe develop into a great player in his own right? Not all off any taken with the first five picks in the draft. Some other rookies the Browns of added Sheldrick red wine from. From the university of Miami shown Taki Taki from BYU another troubled troubled player off the field. Lots of talent on it. They picked up Morgan Burnett in free agency another season with various Randall back there and other seasonal development with Denzel ward the fourth overall pick from a year ago. Linebacker art Avery appears to have been a steel in the fifth round of the two thousand eighteen draft Christian kirksey out grade from that position and me thinks that they kind of attempted to this off season. It's missed on some free agency on some free agents. But look at this front, four they Cleveland boasted there might be another player added to this. We shall see, but for the present tense Myles Garrett and alleviate Vernon coming at you from the book ends with Larry Ohka, Jobe and Sheldon Richardson in. In the rotation and there's a little bit of they may not be done. Christmas comes over from the Cincinnati Bengals, so we will see what what they are working with the defensive front four, but it looks very very promising. And then, of course you have Baker Mayfield in year two taking the job from day one in training camp. He is the starting quarterback of this team. He's got his guy as head coach. There's no more Kabazzi with Hugh Jackson. There's going to be a cohesive flow. I think that the, the players believe in each other, and they saw not from seven eight and one, but from what the Cleveland Browns rail to do. Down the stretch. Let's throw it. Let's let's not take credit for the two wins that you Jackson was part of during the thousand eighteen season. Just think about the way that they grew the way that they learn together. You know when they lost football games. They lost a bad. They lost a good football team. They, they stopped losing bad teams. After that, I. You know eight or die game stretch. I they finished very strong down the stretch. They beat not great teams. But teams that, you know, they weren't expected to go out and beat the barn doors off of. And they didn't really win any of those games except against the Cincinnati Bengals Cincinnati, Bengals figure to be another poor team in two thousand nineteen the Pittsburgh Steelers should regress, there's no Antonio Brown. You might say that they played the last last half last season with Antonio Brown somewhat checked out, but this year he is altogether gone. There will be the uncertainty at running back, but they're also won't be any chance of Levy on bell returning. Remember the Pittsburgh Steelers miss the playoffs a year ago and arguably got worse this season. So. It's in Cleveland Baltimore just made a change of quarterback. They moved on from Joe flacco. He goes to the Denver Broncos large accent, given the opportunity to sink or swim. And. You know, miles, Gary wants to be a shark out there and he wants to he wants to hold the Browns sack record. I think that, that is an attainable goal, I would guess clay Matthews Holtz at record, but we would have to verify that fact for you. I'm just telling you that this could be a very strong gear. You could be looking at the Browns as threat to the chiefs or the patriots or, or because there's always a dark, cloud that looms over Cleveland something bad can happen. So bad can happen and seven and eight and one might be a dream seasoning. Comparison. Look at what they've got coming up. Other schedule in twenty nineteen. They've got to take the NFC west. They've got to play everybody in the AFC east. They have their divisional games. And because they finished in third year ago. Looks like they, they draw the Tennessee titans. And the Denver Broncos as to sort of wild card games. Team hasn't been one but one time in their expansion history two thousand and four. The Joe Thomas all fame career arguably. Never wanna know drafted in two thousand seven played his last game in two thousand seventeen. Never miss a snap in between but never won game one. The Browns first goal not, not not to make the playoffs not to win the division but to be wanna know that is a sixty minute goal that you have had a year to prepare for my name's Jeff rich. I'm talking about my Cleveland football browse of the state of this particular NFL team on this hour sports overnight America, don't go anywhere. We'll be right back right here on the sports byline broadcast. Our empty backfield Newton shotgun takes this nap coming. Coming up blitz they trimmed. Fifty hits. Seven. This is sports overnight, America. It has been said that everyone has a book them, but you have the time or the ability to write your book, maybe you picked up some skills, or head a life experience, that you want to pass on in the form of a book to help, others, maybe you wanna leave and autobiography for your family. 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I've had eleven amazing seasons here in Cleveland. And to know when it's time to call it quits and put a cherry on the career is always tough. Because as a competitor, you always think that you can still do it. But there's a point in your career like you've mentioned on the show before that you get to that crossroads and you just say, I just can't do it any more. I just don't have it in my body. My mind is good audience, not willing, this is sports overnight America with your host, Jeff rich while I'm back, everyone that the voice of former Cleveland Brown Joe Thomas to discussing walking away from the game of football after a ten plus year career with the Cleveland Browns selected number three overall out of the university of Wisconsin in two thousand seven played played the first snap of his rookie. Season and did not miss another snap until he went down in a twelve nine overtime loss to the Tennessee titans in two thousand seventeen he stays pretty active in the Cleveland area hosting a Cleveland Browns themed podcast with former Cleveland Brown and Ohio native Andrew Hawkins. And that was him, discussing his retirement with Hawkins on the Tomahawk podcast. Available out there on, I tunes and all of the podcast outlets, and Joe Thomas is an interesting figure because of all of the Cleveland Browns, that played through these very, very poor expansion. Cleveland Browns era of football, season's Thomas is perhaps, perhaps because there were guys that stop by at other points in their career that. Did not play. They're priming Cleveland, to say the least. But among Cleveland Browns he is the only Cleveland Brown to play wire to wire in his career that has a chance of being inducted into the hall of fame right down the road from Cleveland about an hour in canton. Ohio down I seventy seven. The thing with the hall of fame is Cleveland gets recognized for it because of his close. Canton is its own city, but you can't put it in a bid for the NFL draft in twenty twenty one in that bid kinda shifted up to Cleveland and northeast Ohio at some of the attractions that they have on the lakefront there. And I don't think the canton look at this as a slight only that northeast Ohio got it and canton should share in that joy, because Cleveland's got the, you know, the structure to put people into hotel rooms and things like that, can't it would be a little bit stretched people would be coming from all over the area, perhaps, as far as Cleveland. So why not put it in Cleveland itself, and that'll be that'd be a great spot because, you know it's not just it's not just Cleveland that's right there. I mean Cleveland is is going to be the host. They will overwhelm it like jets fans have in the past. But yeah, Pittsburgh, yet buffalo. You have to Troy Indianapolis Cincinnati. All all right there in the immediate area. Chicago fans poured in a year ago for Brian her lacquer and. That was just the hall of fame ceremony. So you talking about an all inclusive event like the NFL draft where granted teams with higher picture, probably more interested in being there on day one, but it takes those hardcore football fans the ones that ruined bachelorette parties, so a warning to all of the Cleveland brides, to be don't plan are for any of the rights to be don't plan your bachelorette party in Cleveland in late. April early may in twenty twenty one you're gonna have bad time. Unless you're into the NFL draft. Which I happen to know for a fact that there are many females that most certainly are and not just for like fantasy football purposes. God, it feels so good to have. I mentioned this yet that it's not that it feels good to not correlate the Browns and the draft and to get excited about the draft. When it comes to the Cleveland Browns. This coming sees. They host the Tennessee titans on September eighth. Another home opener against titans to attend the game in two thousand fifteen and I don't make it back to Cleveland often during football season. I live in Arizona for a very good reason, because me still like the coal too much. So I went back for the opener in two thousand fifteen Johnny Manziel hit Travis Benjamin a couple times for long touchdowns. And in a battle Heisman winners man's out, this mariota and that one, I think the final is twenty eight to fourteen the proud up being three thirteen that season. I want to actually went to a couple of games that year. I remember leaving the chargers game against San Diego. And I went. What sandiego for that game number one, because I've got a good pal that lives there Browns fan as well. And number two because I thought if I don't go see the Browns play in San Diego. I may never get another opportunity to do so now, whether whether or not seeing gets another NFL team. I would think that it becomes the leverage spot after Los Angeles. No longer has that vacancy status with the San Diego is where you tried to lure a team. Where else it is. I don't know where else you try to try to put something like that. I've said it before you major league baseball the, the relocation premise doesn't have a lot of merit right now because there's just not a lot of places to go. And you might raise your hand if you're in Portland or Charlotte, or Montreal that's fast, Monterrey Mexico city, you know, I think that we're still ways off from that. But you know there are leverage places maybe at San Diego. It never got to be Cleveland because Cleveland already had the deal Cleveland didn't want to take another team. Like the ravens were taken from them. I told you I'm not going to go back to the forty six to ninety five or addition. And I intend to be a man of my word there. Tennessee coming in September eighth two thousand nineteen the Browns have a good chance to go. One annot now. No, these games are slammed homes. I don't think. I think there are too many slam dunks scheduled because Tennessee has definitely been anything but push over them at great on the road. But I think that's a season to season. We'll see how we will see how they look. We'll see it will be get a first glimpse of them play against Freddie kitchens. Cleveland Browns kitchens debut game as a head coach then they go to the New York Jets Monday night football. That's a trap game. That's a trap game Brown should be favored on paper. That is that's a game that could be set up in plain primetime two weeks in a row playing. Football against the jets September sixteenth in at life stadium. And then the Rams come into Cleveland Rams have played them on prime time I wanna say two thousand and four the the Rams came into Cleveland, and they defeated the Browns on Monday night football. I think Mark Bolger was the quarterback at the time. Baltimore Ravens that'll be a big early season matchup. Another one of those one PM CBS starts, but could very easily be flexed depending on where those teams are during the two thousand nine thousand nine hundred and go out to Santa Clara, Monday night football to be in the house for that one up to give you a live show on the sports byline broadcast network from the studios in San Francisco. Maybe the night before Nassar if I can make it from Santa Clara up to San Francisco proper after Monday night football game. I imagine it's a little bit easier to get out of Levi's stadium than it is to get out of candlestick. But that's only because there is nothing that is more difficult to get out of Candlestick Park after a forty Niners game back when those were thing. The seahawks. Go into Cleveland. None of the I would say that years cardinal should be a slam dunk. But the other street three teams I mean you you figure Garoppolo onto the lights on Monday night football. Kyle Shanahan coaching against the Cleveland Browns you figure that this is an opportunity game for the forty Niners to really flex their muscles, especially if the project good going into that game. Then Seattle coming into Cleveland Cleveland coming off a short week sales, physical as they used to be, but they should be formidable opponent in the Browns have by week to prepare for a run that includes them going to Massachusetts taking on the New England Patriots in. We're not going to say Tom Brady's last season or anything like that. But this could be truly a passing the torch game. I mean if you're, if you're being realistic about it. Let's say that the Browns not up to snuff with the Rams, or the ravens, and maybe they split between San Francisco and Seattle. So what would that make three and three going into the bye week? Then they beat the New England Patriots coming out of the bye week who knows where the patriots are going to be the patriots are going to be a different team year in and year out. And some eventually the clock will strike midnight. I would imagine. I mean, we haven't seen it, we have seen no evidence to suggest that it would happen that it's more likely to happen in one year than the next. But every year that Bella tick gets year. Older Brady gets a year older, physical and mental skills may diminish a little bit. And you never know but some all the familiar opponents for the Browns, they have played all of these teams on the back after this. In the postseason except for maybe the Cincinnati Bengals, I know that they, they played into feet of the patriots ninety four lots of history with the Denver Broncos. None of it. Good for the Cleveland Browns who did beat the Buffalo Bills Cleveland stadium once upon a time, they have never beaten Pittsburgh in the playoffs probably never beaten Miami. I know that nearly five Dan Marino, and whatever he called his little group wide receivers ended the Brown season, the divisional round in the nineteen eighty five playoffs. Once again, the Steelers, the Bengals the Zona cardinals the Browns, as far as I can recall. They have never won a game in Arizona playing them in December for the third time at a row. Seven twenty eleven. I actually the fourth time in a row because they played them in two thousand is well but Browns at cardinals. The middle of December. That's a big letdown game always for the Browns, hopefully not this time around, and they close out with the ravens at home. And then the Bengals in Cincinnati, anything less than less than nine and seven I think that Browns fans are going to look at as a, as a slight as we wait. We have waited all this time. And this was supposed to be the air, and if it doesn't happen, I think that there's going to be a lot of guys jumping ship, like same old Brown. Same old Browns three and three three three's enough. Start. They dropped they could conceivably drop games. Three in a row. They can go to only two and three. I think that, that would let the air out of things in Cleveland. It will go a long ways to doing that. Anyway. There's a lot of reason for promise. There's professionals on both on both sidelines. Every game you go out there and play, you could predict this team to be as strong as has twelve and four maybe thirteen and three and you know, the reality is an injury at quarterback Baker Mayfield. The depth chart behind Baker Mayfield. It's drew Stanton. It's Garrett Gilbert, and it's David blow and David law, I think would be a fun project if he can manage to stick around while remaining unsigned by other teams and maybe kind of be a guy that is part of this. You know, this, this whole Browns, resurgence their renaissance. We gotta get on outta here. Thanks for letting me ramble on about the Cleveland football Brown's got final thoughts on the state of the Browns, as they approached the two thousand nineteen in my name's. Jeff rich, Cody from Phoenix, Arizona sports overnight America, Dan, Patrick radio Sirius. XM channel to Levin in this is the sports byline broadcast network. In the backfield. The rookie out of Georgia goes, right side forty fifty stumbled a little bit to the forty thirty twenty twenty. This is sports overnight, America. Tension business owners. Are you struggling while waiting for your customers to pay on their net thirty sixty or ninety day invoices, can't get a business loan have no equity? 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Thanks for letting me ramble on I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio. I went to plenty of games eighty five to nineteen ninety five and. Just a handful of games ever since to be honest with you. But it means a whole heck of a lot to kind of drudge up those memories of watching some of those Cleveland Browns football teams in the eighties that were not necessarily championship teams they played in conference championships and came up short each and every time, you know, the it would. It would really amaze. Everybody for the Browns, Steve appear in a Super Bowl, especially the ineptitude that we've seen over the last couple of decades with them. And, you know, you could say for five decades going back to their last league championship in nineteen sixty four but there's a lot of reason for optimism. There is, of course, reason for passive Bessemer is well, because it's still Cleveland. It's still the Browns they still find a way to rob victory or the to steal defeat from the jaws of victory. Like no other that you've ever seen in your tire life. You know, we, you know in our entire lives. Most of us, we haven't seen much in the color TV, the HD TV era. And we're just opened for, for the Cleveland Browns, you know, you could predict whatever you want what it's not going to batter until they go out there. Their first goal should, of course, be ever eighth two thousand nineteen defeat the Tennessee titans and be one in no. For Scott on the other side of the glass. My name is Jeff rich and this is Ben sports overnight. America on Dan Patrick radio Sirius XM channel to eleven and stay tuned for more sports coming away next hour on the sports byline broadcast network. You're listening to the heartland news feed radio network. Broadcasting live twenty four seven news. Service still newscast Friday June the fourteenth twenty nineteen. I'm Mike Clifford hundreds of companies are Trump to resolve the tariff dispute with China. Also on our Friday rundown. California moves closer to universal health coverage plus some new, go frustration projects post the Deepwater Horizon, spill first our top story, WalMart, target and more than six hundred other companies are urging President Trump to resolve the trade dispute with China that for Reuters. They report the message was sent Thursday in a letter saying, the tariffs, hurt American business and consumers. Reuters ads is latest of many Senate. The Trump administration by tariffs hurt the heartland, an astral campaign against tariffs supported by more than one hundred fifty trade groups, representing agriculture manufacturing retail and tech industries, California's new two hundred fourteen billion. Dollar budget passed by the state Senate their Thursday moves the Golden State closer to universal health coverage here. Suzanne Potter plan, which is expected to be signed by governor Gavin Newsom Potomac one and a half billion dollars over three years towards subsidies to lower the premiums for people who buy health insurance through the covered California exchange. Anthony Wright with a nonprofit health access says the aid is tailored to low and middle income people who make between seventeen and seventy two thousand dollars a year, about a million Californians might get some help to defray the cost of health care of those about three hundred thousand get enough hope that they may be newly covered from previously being uninsured, state lawmakers proposed to pay for the expansion with a state level mandate that everyone carry health insurance or pay a fine. The budget also says aside one hundred million dollars to allow low income undocumented immigrants ages, nineteen to twenty five to sign up for medical critics of the budget. So the extra spending is unwise, and complained that it. 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